From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 00:19:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342BB106564A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:19:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B747B8FC19 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:57946 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lxs5C-0001uj-3W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:19:00 +0200 Received: (qmail 72457 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2009 02:18:55 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 26 Apr 2009 02:18:55 +0200 Received: (qmail 89241 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Apr 2009 02:18:55 +0200 Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:18:55 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Tim Judd Message-ID: <20090426001855.GA89151@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Lxs5C-0001uj-3W. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1Lxs5C-0001uj-3W ff3d4ce3c88e31b5970d889dfa7f92a8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:19:17 -0000 On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 05:45:49PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > Reading the second half of these mailings got me thinking. Thinking of ways > to detect what CAN be done, and what CAN'T -- based entirely on the hardware > at boot. I think that we might come to a middle ground to get something > working. Here's my thought process right now, with hopefully ample samples > to example my angle (that was fun to say). > > > It's based on two principles. First is the CPU class. If it's a 486 or > 586, run a pure dialog(3) interface. If it's a slow 686 (and the fudge > factor to define slow is based on Xorg's *recommended* CPU specs + the > software installation CPU/RAM needs), run the dialog(3) interface. If it's > a fast 686, default to a X environment. As long as you have sufficient RAM (and you don't actually need all that much of it) running X on an older CPU should not be much of a problem. (Unless X.org has bloated really badly over the last couple of years.) > > Second (which ties into the first) is the hardware that was probed during > boot-time. If a /dev entry (or even some sysctl) exists for a pci/agp/pci-e > device, it can run a graphical installer. If it finds none of the graphical > adapters, and sees serial ports, enable the dialog(3) as well. I feel like > some pseudo-code might help paint the picture more. > > > text-mode_install = graphic-mode_install = false > if (CPUCLASS<=586 || CPUSPEED<=(Xorg-suggested-minimums+install > requirements)) { > set text-mode_install true > } else { > set graphic-mode_install true > } > if (found(VGA-graphics) && graphic-mode_install) { > exec xinstall > } else { > # enable console installer > exec sysinstall > } > > > > I seem to find this very logical and can't (yet) see any flaws with doing > this. sysinstall is built, we'd just need to maintain it and create the > x-based installer. Run it with a minimalist (twm?) startup so we don't > waste time booting. That logic will often do the wrong thing for servers. They are the most common case where people want to install using a serial console, but typically do have a (fairly simple) graphical adapter and could run a graphical installer perfectly well. That does not necessarily mean that the person doing the install wants to do it. Better would be to check (somehow) for the presence of a keyboard and a screen. If those are not present forget about X. If they are present then the user at least has a possibility of using X. Also keep in mind that there are graphical adapters/screen combinations where X will not work correctly without first tweaking configuration files. Things have improved greatly here in recent years, but it is still not perfect. Text mode is still a good deal more compatible with all kinds of weird hardware. > > I've also thought about the concept of a web-ui installer, even if it's run > from the local machine. The benefit of a webui installer is that you can > give the disk to someone, tell them to put it up on a publically available > IP address and just sit back and let it run. but I ramble on.... > > > > And also brainstorming now has brought me another idea about installing base > with the concerns Jordan Hubbard wrote in 2000 mentioned in this thread. > Again based on the hardware probed (this one being the amount of RAM in the > box, in contrast to the amount of disk space needed to install on disk), > create a in-ram disk as the staging area when you write to disk. The other > idea is to use dump/restore instead of tar files. > > It is possible to have a 3GHz machine with 256MB ram as a valid combination, > but when bin distribution is about 128MB in size, and kernel distribution is > 128MB in size, and blindly running an X install -- not wise. > > > > Last idea is to do similar to what Ubuntu (used to) do. Provide a X-based > installer CD and a console-based installer CD. > > > I'd be happy to provide feedback; these were brainstorming ideas and would > really like to see progress move toward a more eye-candy installer. I fail to see what the point of an X-based install would be - other than pure eye-candy, which does not seem very important for something like an installer which is used so rarely. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 00:27:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337DC106564A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0756C8FC17 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ppp-71-139-35-171.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [71.139.35.171]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n3Q0RlmB047304 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49F3AA81.4040303@rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:27:45 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090424) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Why top never shows ~100% CPU usage with heavy load? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:27:48 -0000 When I have 2-3 compilation processes running entirely in memory and an empty cycle (for (;;) {}) I only see 6-20% CPU load of each process. Total that 'top -C' never even approaches 100% that it actually should be and is usually ~40%. 'load averages' field though becomes high: over 3. Why CPU load never goes to 100%? Yuri 7.1-STABLE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 00:29:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58786106564A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B29D8FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from MacBookPro-002332D9A480-2.local (c-24-130-114-31.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.130.114.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3Q0TeRp018350 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:29:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <49F3AAEF.102@enabled.com> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:29:35 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: openwebmail undefined subroutine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:29:41 -0000 Hi there, any clues why this is happening? I have Compress::Zlib installs. Undefined subroutine &Compress::Zlib::memGzip called at /usr/local/www/cgi-bin/openwebmail/shares/ow-shared.pl line 1212. Cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 01:09:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A001065677 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:09:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz) Received: from kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (kazi.fit.vutbr.cz [147.229.8.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159148FC19 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:09:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz) Received: from kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (envelope-from cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz) (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3Q0wJSk098420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:58:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from cejkar@localhost) by kazi.fit.vutbr.cz (8.14.3/8.13.1/Submit) id n3Q0wJQD098419; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:58:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: kazi.fit.vutbr.cz: cejkar set sender to cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz using -f Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:58:19 +0200 From: Rudolf Cejka To: Daniel Feenberg Message-ID: <20090426005819.GA97532@fit.vutbr.cz> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 147.229.8.12 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tnftpd, lukemftpd and conversions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:09:44 -0000 Daniel Feenberg wrote (2009/04/24): > and from the motd message I can see that the server is using this > configuration file. The compress program has been copied to > /var/ftp/bin/compress so it should be available too. \ >From /usr/bin/compress? Are you using chroot in ftpd? Did you tried to perform chroot and run /bin/compress yourself? Isn't there missing libc? -- Rudolf Cejka http://www.fit.vutbr.cz/~cejkar Brno University of Technology, Faculty of Information Technology Bozetechova 2, 612 66 Brno, Czech Republic From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 01:13:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1C41065670 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:13:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448AC8FC17 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35869EB49BE; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:12:59 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF38450C6; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:12:58 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KuVJll7EETVf; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:12:58 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl107-3.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.226.3]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71DD4509B; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:12:58 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3Q1CwnD057609; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:12:58 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3Q1Cv3G057596; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:12:57 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: John Nielsen In-Reply-To: <200904240535.37460.lists@jnielsen.net> (John Nielsen's message of "Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:35:34 -0400") References: <200904240535.37460.lists@jnielsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:12:50 +0300 Message-ID: <874owc8bfx.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS history access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:13:01 -0000 --=-=-= On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:35:34 -0400, John Nielsen wrote: > I'm working on a machine learning project and I'd like to use the > FreeBSD src CVS commit history as a datasource. Is there a > resource-friendly way for me to download some or all of it? Format > isn't too big an issue. > > I tried a few "cvs history" commands against the anoncvs servers but > get this: cvs [history aborted]: cannot open history file: > /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/history: No such file or directory Do you really want just the `CVSROOT/history' file? We allow mirroring of the entire repository, which you can then use to extract any sort of historical commit data. (Well, _almost_ anything. Some things like repo-copies and renames of raw repository files have been done without any sort of record, so it may be impossible to recover *those* particular bits.) We also have a Subversion repository now, that you can use to grab commit information. It takes slightly more disk space than the CVS repository, but subversion can export XML formatted commit logs, which may be slightly more useful if you plan to automate parts of the parsing and info-gathering. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknztRkACgkQ1g+UGjGGA7ZQQgCgsJST/skwLxMQvnrDWJ5eEGHL HxsAoJX1Bw3Zpj3LUUQFKwFWzw3d65Rq =qD+w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 01:19:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3F9106566C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A488FC0A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:19:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from nber6.nber.org (nber6.nber.org [66.251.72.76]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3Q1J9AL020856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:19:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from nber6.nber.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nber6.nber.org (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id n3Q1Drr9023995; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (feenberg@localhost) by nber6.nber.org (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7/Submit) with ESMTP id n3Q1Dr1q023992; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:13:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: nber6.nber.org: feenberg owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:13:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg To: Rudolf Cejka In-Reply-To: <20090426005819.GA97532@fit.vutbr.cz> Message-ID: References: <20090426005819.GA97532@fit.vutbr.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Sendmail with Milter API 5.6.20, bases: 20090425 #1879548, check: 20090426 clean Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tnftpd, lukemftpd and conversions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:19:18 -0000 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009, Rudolf Cejka wrote: > Daniel Feenberg wrote (2009/04/24): >> and from the motd message I can see that the server is using this >> configuration file. The compress program has been copied to >> /var/ftp/bin/compress so it should be available too. > \ >> From /usr/bin/compress? Are you using chroot in ftpd? Did you tried > to perform chroot and run /bin/compress yourself? Isn't there > missing libc? Yes, that looks like the problem. I found a copy of the example file in the examples directory of /usr/ports/ftp/tnftpd and there is more information there. I'll try to compile compress statically or make copies of the libraries. (Also, I missed the -c option to compress). Thank You Daniel Feenberg > > -- > Rudolf Cejka http://www.fit.vutbr.cz/~cejkar > Brno University of Technology, Faculty of Information Technology > Bozetechova 2, 612 66 Brno, Czech Republic > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 02:22:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945DE106566C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elon@physik.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.tu-berlin.de (mail.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.7.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0721D8FC0C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elon@physik.tu-berlin.de) X-tubIT-Incoming-IP: 130.149.58.163 Received: from mail.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.58.163] helo=mail.physik.tu-berlin.de) by mail.tu-berlin.de (exim-4.69/mailfrontend-a) with esmtp for id 1Lxtn7-0003xk-Dl; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:08:25 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de [127.0.0.1]) by mail.physik.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19D611402 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:08:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at physik.tu-berlin.de Received: from mail.physik.tu-berlin.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.physik-pool.TU-Berlin.DE [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XX2+cP4vqs3w for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:08:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de [130.149.58.146]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.physik.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03C4311404 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:08:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (localhost.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de [127.0.0.1]) by emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3Q28LGZ027767 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:08:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from elon@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de) Received: (from elon@localhost) by emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3Q28LKM027766 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:08:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from elon) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:08:21 +0200 From: Leon =?iso-8859-15?Q?Me=DFner?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090426020821.GA75923@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-tubIT-Score: 0.0 () Subject: Hardwire drive0 to ad0 on hw raid. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:22:19 -0000 --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, i'm having a problem with the disk numbering of RAID arrays (3ware 9650SE). When i boot, the array with my system is always the last=20 numbered drive (ATM its ad16). This array is on its own controller.=20 lsdev in the loader shows the array as drive0 (first BIOS drive i assume).=20 Is there a way to hardwire this to ad0 as i dont want my system array to have different numbers when booting with different amounts=20 of drives attached to the system.=20 I couldn't find any hints on this in the 3ware manuals or controller-setup. Thanks in Advance, Leon FWIW: This is on FreeBSD-7.1-p5 (latest binary update). --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknzwhUACgkQJCh4HSRvNnyBqgCeOgUZ5nhn0003DNu3fXZwC2gN cQkAoIZVs6Mw4ACTNOj0aH10q+pDHLb+ =Jcwt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 02:39:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23849106564A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12568FC15 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so3669295qyk.3 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:39:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Jlt4L2LGCB+nuOEZkGj17hYA+j+2Z8JRGuaN5yhc5Go=; b=wVGFLs/GbJQCdnPcJzx2+wCZCntfjW9B3nc/iEfwWcY8JBuNe5FMjA3bBBHB4q2xkd EDPTKzya04VuktFUIEzI1h3nZFFlpCzl6eZjxAKbd7emzgRGIvOxgh/oN4t0aGSwqjjW b1PxfWiDQRzjWsa13VGW9LKyr4s8feg1JP3xQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=TeRezH2L/4rgXaJJWB8OnDDG5o5U6f4MiALJgteaVJiO05weYECcVFUuIl7p9t+CYV lpPQ1x+I1mujHwnUXZcPuddKpLSz1N50D8y6l6zp38X+iVLniz6t8NTMc+RiFOsTLG2d dVZTMgHkSCoI9g5fHtTaBfN+T846RVs+YGNVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.92.80 with SMTP id q16mr7673160vcm.58.1240713564079; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:39:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090426020821.GA75923@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de> References: <20090426020821.GA75923@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de> From: Tim Judd Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:39:09 -0600 Message-ID: To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leon_Me=DFner?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardwire drive0 to ad0 on hw raid. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:39:25 -0000 On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Leon Me=DFner wrote: > Hi, > > i'm having a problem with the disk numbering of RAID arrays (3ware > 9650SE). When i boot, the array with my system is always the last > numbered drive (ATM its ad16). This array is on its own controller. > lsdev in the loader shows the array as drive0 (first BIOS drive i > assume). > Is there a way to hardwire this to ad0 as i dont want my system > array to have different numbers when booting with different amounts > of drives attached to the system. > I couldn't find any hints on this in the 3ware manuals or > controller-setup. > > Thanks in Advance, > Leon > > FWIW: This is on FreeBSD-7.1-p5 (latest binary update). > That's one of the advantages of putting labels on a filesystem. You then specify in fstab that you mount by it's label versus the device name directly. And just so you don't go around and around in circles -- tunefs will create /dev/ufs and geom_label/glabel will create /dev/label There is a bug report to clarify the docs I submitted about this. To clear /dev/label, you use glabel, to clear /dev/ufs, you use tunefs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 02:39:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560DA1065686 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7438FC0C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1253373wfg.7 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:39:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3o2PCHEgp24MziTYKKybar4t1lE0GD8YcuF8YfuGm+E=; b=PRD/CgBAVVEwnkMYrVeoHnPqjm7Urb92UCyqOtPK34H3jGau0sxHmvgy6pSYl/KoCX vBi1FaszfPTMSZsVnW0K4OeilMUQH1ch1Y4I7AqskNpXNjKLF56jQ1/gkvAsTMBJthOb QZQHywopRu0Qd3J8DW8zBT8GeaxyTgOBNI5RM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vtItrHmrs45bBz4+JA7CQ6DdyJ8ffbjjPmQqQcZEkiOiQ1sKgz6SLTtsyH6i0nJh8S BmPK4wEL9BTJwRntdeZELhZC9yJOxwBAhUKFr6N9vevvzFnkOY0YBy7HnsxHvdckYlWU DH5ro1aovHkYwiz6JNA3/I7AeaEd9qzAPzTB0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.19.16 with SMTP id w16mr1156548wfi.343.1240713597801; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:39:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1240694085.1039.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1240694085.1039.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:39:57 -0600 Message-ID: <64c038660904251939sb5db2dbkff6a3e35d5ab79aa@mail.gmail.com> From: Modulok To: Christopher Chambers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Converting the partition type X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:39:58 -0000 On 4/25/09, Christopher Chambers wrote: > Hi, > > I have an msdos partition with a large amount of data. Is there a way to > convert to a ufs partition without having to remove the data off the > partition first? > >> IMHO there are no converters. I second that. I know of no such utility either. -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 02:56:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AA4106566C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFD28FC0A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so3675527qyk.3 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:56:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=H3uA9nhcbhynbixkzgoe5+10nLVttjjTxlmJQBi41qs=; b=p7JVP4QcgSjjGUiYg6wW6RUBmF7FwXRoD7qSZJtuVlUVEBbgAYXyTOzGFGe4K4oJi+ Nn5GGNSAiTezChslsgFkKtcRo9HyTlBJ/y0EnfuoQA5FeGAsEQZHfwcS9XG9YA2244YC jwhQ0NS4/uBnisFTZacmY+1aPJ/OyUFccHw5U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=PQmmmTPJTokRm8aUBAIsfipOXiQbQOZOee2t8vgVAqyrsflR3ZwKs7AGg6KqVFLr5B odXyvJFb3lHz25K1KhbAEmACa3d0LFc6B7NuzQppxQabpjiIxLlL/JSo8s2q6hCbj1qZ ATbkrrEZ/JEC5ZOUlXXovqfull/aXd12JBPi8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.87.1 with SMTP id u1mr7782841vcl.2.1240714566155; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:56:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Tim Judd Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:55:51 -0600 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: cvsup-mirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:56:07 -0000 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Tim Judd wrote: > I am having quite the issue with a cvsup-mirror install (1.3_8) here. It > seems to be keeping some meta information file somewhere and has FAILED to > give me a local mirror (not one to be publicly available) yet. > > > Being the stubborn person I am, I have multiple times cleared some and all > of the following to try to resolve the problem... > > /usr/local/etc/cvsup > the package itself > /home/ncvs > /home/cvsupin > /usr/ports/ports/net/cvsup-mirror > > > > And each time it takes ~5 hours to download 1.5GB of data in /home/ncvs > then a client connecting to itself fails to work. Latest problem is > > -- Quote > Server warning: Cannot open > "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/src/gnu/lib/libgmp/mpz/get_si.c,v": > No such file or directory > Server warning: Cannot open > "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/src/gnu/lib/libgmp/mpz/get_str.c,v": > No such file or directory > Server warning: Cannot open > "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/src/gnu/lib/libgmp/mpz/get_ui.c,v": > No such file or directory > Server warning: Cannot open > "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/src/gnu/lib/libgmp/mpz/getlimbn.c,v": > No such file or directory > -- /Quote > > It's just a snippet.. It can't find ANYTHING. > > Other problems included the inability to even select the src-all/cvs or > ports-all/cvs (trees? branches?) in the server, yet it has 1.5GB downloaded. > > What'd help me to learn what's wrong is the line in config.sh as below: > distribs="distrib.self .. . FreeBSD.cvs /home/ncvs . FreeBSD-www.current > SKIP . FreeBSD-gnats.current SKIP gnats FreeBSD-mail.current SKIP ." > > My guess is it names a distribution and puts a directory it stores the > files into in the next argument, separated by space. Next distribution is > named and it's directory it stores the files into as the next one past that, > with all distributions separated by a single period. > > Then the word 'gnats' throws me off because I ..... don't know what the > heck it's there for.. is the '.' an alias instead to the first item in the > line, meaning it's a tuple? > (distrib storedir alias)... > > > > What throws me off is that the /usr/local/etc/cvsup directory was tarred up > from a working mirror and copied here and let the update.sh run for 5 hours, > to come to the above quoted warnings (but I'm treating them as errors). The > working system has about 4GB in /home/ncvs that works for me, but this one > can't get past 1.5GB. Working system has been working beautifully for > several months (6?).. so maybe it's just collective. > > > I really would like to get a bearing on cvsup-mirror, but have no clue what > to google or read to find out some of the troubleshooting guides. > > > > --Tim > Bump Any other mailing list I can send this question to? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 04:04:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4784106566B for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cchamb0@interchange.ubc.ca) Received: from mr4.mail-relay.ubc.ca (mr4.mail-relay.ubc.ca [137.82.45.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAE58FC13 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cchamb0@interchange.ubc.ca) Received: from mta2.interchange.ubc.ca (mta2.interchange.ubc.ca [142.103.145.70]) by mr4.mail-relay.ubc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD9B1B699 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:04:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Ubc-Received: from [128.189.173.152] (fc03-05-14-152.srfc01.resnet.ubc.ca [128.189.173.152]) by smtp.interchange.ubc.ca (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.21 (built Sep 8 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0KIO00MJKWO55R@smtp.interchange.ubc.ca> for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:04:03 -0700 From: Christopher Chambers In-reply-to: <64c038660904251939sb5db2dbkff6a3e35d5ab79aa@mail.gmail.com> To: Modulok Message-id: <1240718643.1096.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port References: <1240694085.1039.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <64c038660904251939sb5db2dbkff6a3e35d5ab79aa@mail.gmail.com> X-UBC-Scanned: Sophos PureMessage 5.4.6.353000, Antispam-Engine: 2.6.1.350677, Antispam-Data: 2009.4.26.35237 X-UBC-Relayed: Relayed through mail-relay.ubc.ca X-PerlMx-Spam: Probability=8%, Report=HTML_NO_HTTP 0.1, BODY_SIZE_1800_1899 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __CT 0, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT 0, __HAS_HTML 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_HTML 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Flag: No Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Converting the partition type X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:04:56 -0000 Oh well. Thanks guys. At least CD's are cheap! -- Christopher Chambers On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 20:39 -0600, Modulok wrote: > On 4/25/09, Christopher Chambers wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have an msdos partition with a large amount of data. Is there a way to > > convert to a ufs partition without having to remove the data off the > > partition first? > > > > >> IMHO there are no converters. > > I second that. I know of no such utility either. > -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 06:47:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E78106566C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:47:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E38A8FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:47:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3Q6lG8S065513; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:47:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n3Q6lG8S065513 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1240728437; bh=jGJaFgEWiNKhDPzpsYnQuu0aqjigpPR24sxg57GbFcw=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<49F4036D.7040203@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2026=20Apr=202009=2007:47:09=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.21=20(X11/20090420)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Reinis=20Ivanovs=20|CC:=20freebsd- questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Long=20HTTP=20connection=20 delays=20in=20LAN|References:=20<5b826e210904251603j63776c21kb208e 05871ceb8f@mail.gmail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<5b826e210904251603j6377 6c21kb208e05871ceb8f@mail.gmail.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6| Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A =20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"- -----------enig01FF591B2196085597A01485"; b=4Ot7w+Vlti4gc+BTvNeod6kwbAl0Zxsh91h7Pfaws2FZqpCyA8uhwhFNVxqNpU4jv kbybvsX6kPB6zXUJZcu7TLKxVOp4cuUNba6lKEDSXx8GH/AD4wCjeb8vMAc7PJeSpg 4HRaocpo3lBjlUZcg11D3loNENhihhyXCaxHDLZQ= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <49F4036D.7040203@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:47:09 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090420) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Reinis Ivanovs References: <5b826e210904251603j63776c21kb208e05871ceb8f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5b826e210904251603j63776c21kb208e05871ceb8f@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig01FF591B2196085597A01485" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Long HTTP connection delays in LAN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:47:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig01FF591B2196085597A01485 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reinis Ivanovs wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I have a strange HTTP connectivity problem in my LAN. There is a > FreeBSD 7.1 system that runs the httpd, a Vista system that I use to > connect to it, and a Tomato 1.23 WRT54GL router between them. It often > occurs that I can ping the FreeBSD system just fine, but HTTP > connections get "stuck" for minutes on end. After they become > "unstuck", everything works normally for a while, and then the problem > might come back. I know the httpd is running fine during those times > because there are no delays connecting locally or from outside the > LAN. It seems I also get similar delays when I try to connect to the > router's web administration panel. There are so many variables that > I'm not sure whether the problem lies with FreeBSD or something else. > I'm hoping somebody with more networking experience could give me some > hints about where to look, because I'm seriously stuck. This sounds suspiciously like MTU problems. ie. one of those machines is occasionally sending packets too big for the other side to cope with *and* PathMTU discovery is not working. However, I can't see why that should be an issue with two machines and a router all directly connected via ethernet: the standard MTU of 1500 byte= s is almost certainly correct in that case. MTU problems usually occur when you tunnel one protocol through another (which includes such things as IPSec) or when you convert from ethernet to some other wire protocol, such as PPP. In any case, there should be an automatic mechanism to enable the MTU to be adjusted dynamically -- firewalling out all ICMP traffic (which is the not the latest bit of=20 bogus security lore but merely the most intractable and stupid) will lead to effects like that. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig01FF591B2196085597A01485 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkn0A3MACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxFcgCdH3ohUKnDJQX735d8RdTVCNPL z3YAn3dt34cLYrz+6lGMwtft5Yoj97+r =P7bG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig01FF591B2196085597A01485-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 06:54:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E441065674 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:54:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A298FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-27-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.27.202]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978CE16C0142; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:54:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3Q6rsL3001507; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:53:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:53:54 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Tim Judd Message-Id: <20090426085354.c7de58d4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:54:03 -0000 On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:45:49 -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > If it's > a fast 686, default to a X environment. I would always encourage using a text mode dialog FIRST. Such as Your system is able to run the graphical installer. Do you want to launch it, or do you want to work with the text mode installer indead? [ text mode ] [ graphical mode ] Note that not everybody with sufficient hardware would also want to use the GUI installer. Well... I won't... :-) CPU power is not the only criteria for running a GUI installer. But you already got into detail and took this into mind. > Second (which ties into the first) is the hardware that was probed during > boot-time. If a /dev entry (or even some sysctl) exists for a pci/agp/pci-e > device, it can run a graphical installer. If it finds none of the graphical > adapters, and sees serial ports, enable the dialog(3) as well. Then the problem of how to support these graphical adapters could arise. You know that X has often problems autodetecting stuff correct, even stuff that worked fine with XFree86 doesn't always work with X.org. So problems are not only "too new" things, but "too old" things, too. > I seem to find this very logical and can't (yet) see any flaws with doing > this. sysinstall is built, we'd just need to maintain it and create the > x-based installer. Run it with a minimalist (twm?) startup so we don't > waste time booting. A window manager? Why use a window manager? It's possible to run X without any window manager, and in this case, it makes sense, because there are no windows to be managed. It's only one program running - the installer. Of course, we're just talking about an installer, aren't we? It's not about a full-featured live system where you can use Firefox while doing the install. :-) > I've also thought about the concept of a web-ui installer, even if it's run > from the local machine. The benefit of a webui installer is that you can > give the disk to someone, tell them to put it up on a publically available > IP address and just sit back and let it run. but I ramble on.... I'm not sure I understood this correctly... Do you suggest something like running a (minimalistic) web server from the machine where FreeBSD is about to be installed, and then have either a HTTP connection from localhost or from a distant machine (where someone else can do the install)? > Again based on the hardware probed (this one being the amount of RAM in the > box, in contrast to the amount of disk space needed to install on disk), > create a in-ram disk as the staging area when you write to disk. The other > idea is to use dump/restore instead of tar files. Well, dump & restore is my preferred method of "cloning" from a "master workstation". But I'm not sure it can be used for custom installation where the amount of what to install may vary, and it is determined by the person who installs... > Last idea is to do similar to what Ubuntu (used to) do. Provide a X-based > installer CD and a console-based installer CD. I'd think that is too much. You'll always want the CD you haven't got at hand at the moment. :-) > I'd be happy to provide feedback; these were brainstorming ideas and would > really like to see progress move toward a more eye-candy installer. Well, then I'd suggest you prove why eye-candy is needed at all in the first place. :-) As Wojciech mentioned in one of his replies, I'd welcome new functionalities - instead of the same functionalities in an "X enclosure" that makes everything slower. :-) For example, if you get the sources from the install disc, sysinstall could provide a step to update them right away, letting you select the update server and then run csup to bring them up to date. Just an idea. One of many possible ideas. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 06:59:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE94106566B for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198918FC0A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-27-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.27.202]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D42816C078D; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:59:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3Q6xVfL001527; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:59:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:59:31 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Erik Trulsson Message-Id: <20090426085931.0614c215.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090426001855.GA89151@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <20090426001855.GA89151@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tim Judd , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:59:38 -0000 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:18:55 +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: > As long as you have sufficient RAM (and you don't actually need all that > much of it) running X on an older CPU should not be much of a problem. > (Unless X.org has bloated really badly over the last couple of years.) It has. It makes my P4 2GHz 768MB RAM with ATI 9200 RV250 run slower than my 300MHz P2 256MB RAM, while not being able to init the screen at 1400x1050... :-( > That logic will often do the wrong thing for servers. They are the most > common case where people want to install using a serial console, but > typically do have a (fairly simple) graphical adapter and could run a > graphical installer perfectly well. That does not necessarily mean > that the person doing the install wants to do it. Exactly. The hardware configuration does not neccessarily imply the intentions of the user. > Better would be to check (somehow) for the presence of a keyboard and a > screen. If those are not present forget about X. If they are present > then the user at least has a possibility of using X. That would be a good approach. AT and USB keyboards need to be taken into mind. Another thing is the mouse. It *may* not be present, but the user may want to use the GUI installer. Then the GUI installer would need to have full keyboard support - a thing that you can rarely see today... > Also keep in mind that there are graphical adapters/screen combinations > where X will not work correctly without first tweaking configuration files. That's the problem of running X in this very limited stage of operations. It cannot do that much as if it was installed and had custom-tweaked config files. > Things have improved greatly here in recent years, but it is still > not perfect. And disimproved, too. :-) > I fail to see what the point of an X-based install would be - other than > pure eye-candy, which does not seem very important for something like an > installer which is used so rarely. A benefit that people often imply is that it attracts more users, because they get scared by the 80x25. Another point would be to select the LANGUAGE of the installer in the first place. Germans get scared by english words! :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 09:12:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC87106566B for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (progress.isafeelin.org [84.244.146.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A53D8FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4830B130D9A; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:12:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.145.154.3]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1C400130D99; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:12:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from free.isafeelin.org (unknown [192.168.1.15]) by s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDAE784FD; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:12:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49F4256C.6090407@isafeelin.org> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:12:12 +0200 From: Frederique Rijsdijk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090418) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran References: <20090425101042.GA48343@hyperion.scode.org> <20090425122825.2cc0b090@gluon.draftnet> In-Reply-To: <20090425122825.2cc0b090@gluon.draftnet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Peter Schuller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mergemaster -U overwriting modified files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:12:17 -0000 Bruce Cran wrote: > On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:10:42 +0200 > Peter Schuller wrote: > > >> I recently began testing mergemaster -U since the perpetual "review >> diff of file I never touched" grows annoying real quick. >> >> Unfortunately I recently discovered that it does not seem to do what >> you might expect. For example it nuked my mailer.conf on one machine, >> and my /etc/namedb/named.conf (!!!) on another machine. >> >> Is this a bug or intended? What is the intended functionality of -U? >> >> > > I noticed this recently too: after using mergemaster -U without > problems for a long time it suddenly went and overwrote named.conf on > a recently upgrade of 7-STABLE. > > I've seen this happen as well with named.conf. I've noticed that sometimes the -U flag doesn't work (I use -Ui), I still have to install the never touched files by hand. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:02:13 -0000 > software installation CPU/RAM needs), run the dialog(3) interface. If it's > a fast 686, default to a X environment. nonsense. please stop this stupid discussion at all. just use linux or windows (maybe PC-BSD) if it's important for you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 11:18:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1E7106566B for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97F38FC1A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c3so1168133ana.13 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:18:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vPrZErsE3eteHSXYJ3CWGy+kC+UmS4hh9cZR5dha7CI=; b=oub10F9Hp32fdkVYcXLDJIGJnwxq0wMjDPHhqzrPxuMAiaaApx9saYFDbPt4ut7gFf rD13zVZYHIWmjtT6tgsfIQyDCOxF82x0Jp+cy/PyeB/lc/GtcAmHmjWsLVjtxe6DIdz5 j/EDnCHDdJiE3SC0q6IyuExisSkoHge2TEYXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=b6vxxM98jFuhcNAucwc/hmlUwnvO6eTD9SbWy6+/Jf/zaa+IiV1c3p5QWZM/vJKsVj d2UHuoUCUkauOTL2vNSRlr2wMNj9mBt3DvOIxycfPaXtmTPIqrZa4tDc1AwTwpbs6qGM J8T2lSOCCNkiVUWTh/uTwoZ+i4n3CXxTs3l1c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.177.10 with SMTP id z10mr6681364ane.2.1240744692258; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:18:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:18:12 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310904260418u4e3b9778i577d56385cb1dfeb@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:18:13 -0000 On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> software installation CPU/RAM needs), run the dialog(3) interface. =A0If >> it's >> a fast 686, default to a X environment. > > nonsense. please stop this stupid discussion at all. > > just use linux or windows (maybe PC-BSD) if it's important for you. This discussion is not about Linux or Windows. It is about a graphical installer. If you are not going to contribute anything useful to the discussion, close your email client. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 13:15:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8A5106564A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF62E8FC18 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n3QDF6jS021021; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:15:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n3QDF64T021020; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:15:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:15:06 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Christopher Chambers Message-ID: <20090426131506.GA20981@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <1240694085.1039.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1240694085.1039.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Converting the partition type X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:15:26 -0000 On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 02:14:43PM -0700, Christopher Chambers wrote: > Hi, > > I have an msdos partition with a large amount of data. Is there a way to > convert to a ufs partition without having to remove the data off the > partition first? Not that one. You could use one of the commercial utilities like Partition Magic to convert to or from NTFS, but not a UNIX type. You will have to make it a FAT type and then mount it in FreeBSD and then read it from FreeBSD to a place in a UFS slice. Then that version would not be accessible in a MS system. ////jerry > > -- > Christopher Chambers > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 13:24:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A656106566B for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f170.google.com (mail-gx0-f170.google.com [209.85.217.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB1F8FC14 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:24:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by gxk18 with SMTP id 18so1378285gxk.19 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:24:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0oQn+syBx2slwdegljVeZFhfxeDE7m/Hya+CGxmc+UU=; b=jPq8cHB1lkea2HIOlXwszsjW1iYpoNiHdrWBFDtvncincqaoMsKeF1YMKsaKih5/2S RidEXAyg5R8kmjxVARqHDxY6Kq5Jo8JQauRdoHN5I2NrvZ9Nf2gQcavyijIMmoSolJ3P mY3d/+wZcJUlakftFrqc1CmMqcrCTGfDRB0Ew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=c+O5yDsmJVZu49RSAuE5QWPjY1QwXg8nHSvCtu55lptxKnJI1eYCHFTDn1kcLjeifI LeSJCvTfVFzcyV0NvOUoTI55NUUoRR6KrSKKNeqpia2px5WSY67RH6WO+GKU+TFD3MDo aBQxnDkGgDVfr8Suewvt+70RompdfsKCMtw34= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.91.6 with SMTP id o6mr5550454agb.89.1240752260207; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:24:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <26ddd1750904251031q486a6ddar523d1470ce1fd8be@mail.gmail.com> From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:24:05 -0400 Message-ID: <26ddd1750904260624x15edd57cub17812ea600357cd@mail.gmail.com> To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Software raid5 through a sata port multiplier X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:24:21 -0000 On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> thinking that a software raid5 solution may not be such a bad idea. > > software raid5 isn't any more bad than hardware raid5 most cases. > > just raid5 is bad if you use it in ANY type of load except: > > a) mostly reads - then set LARGE RAID stripe size > b) mostly huge files - then set small RAID stripe size to have highest > single thread transfer, or large to have higher concurency. > > EVERY OTHER case is bad case for RAID5 - just remember small write on > RAID5=2 reads+2 writes on disks. True, but aren't both steps done in parallel? So a single-disk equivalent is actually just one read for every write. >> The question is what port multiplier hardware does FreeBSD 7 support? > > it unfortunately doesn't. but your hardware RAID controllers drive disks by > itself and presents virtual drives to system, and system has nothing to do > with it. > so ask manufacturer if it supports port multipliers. The reason I don't want to depend on a hardware implementation is because this "server" is actually a shuttle xpc box, so not exactly built for reliability. If something breaks, I have to be able to move the disks to any other FreeBSD 7 machine and continue accessing the data. So I really just need some PCIe card and an external enclosure that will expose all attached disks to the operating system. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 14:14:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365531065676 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from skycaptain.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.93.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C798FC12 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: FROM dell1 (Unknown [141.211.15.39]) By skycaptain.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 49F46822.56F83.20243 ; Authuser web; 26 Apr 2009 09:56:50 EDT Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:55:27 -0400 From: William Bulley To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090426135527.GA36455@dell1> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: fatal error from /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:14:28 -0000 On Friday I ran the following: # cd /usr/local/etc/cvsup # csup -L2 ports-supfile # csup -L2 doc-supfile # csup -L2 stable-supfile (tag=RELENG_7) I then rebuilt the world and installed it. When I rebooted, I was very pleasantly surprised to find: % uname -a FreeBSD freebsd 7.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE #0: Fri Apr 24 16:13:56 EDT 2009 [snip] i386 I began the process of rebuilding my all ports on Saturday: # pkg_delete -a # \rm -rf /usr/ports/*/work Things progressed fine until I started building any ports having some dependency on Linux emulation: [this is true for /usr/ports/print/acroread8 and 9 astro/google-earth, multimedia/linux-realplayer, www/opera-linuxplugins, etc.] # make install clean "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk", line 72: Malformed conditional (${LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX}=="") "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk", line 130: Malformed conditional (${LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX} == "-f8") Error expanding embedded variable. Here are the relevant settings in the indicated files: /etc/fstab linprocfs /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 # kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 12 0xc0400000 48d204 kernel 2 1 0xc088e000 6a45c acpi.ko 3 1 0xc5403000 7000 linprocfs.ko 4 1 0xc540f000 22000 linux.ko /etc/rc.conf linux_enable="YES" /etc/make.conf OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f9 OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f9 /etc/sysctl.conf compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 I don't know what to do to fix this problem. I don't know whether I should submit a pr or try to determine what is going on myself. Not sure I would succeed at the latter. Please advise. If more information or detail is required, let me know. The next thing I will try is changing /etc/make.conf to override "f8" instead of "f9" Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 14:38:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775EB1065675 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9738FC20 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1065264ywe.13 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:38:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fWEWQtsvT/4qiFGoIPDWR6OcF2rUPRcsTH0XaXjHl+U=; b=tc7nHoQOOiJqDGLM75rxxYw4Jjm4yM+Fz18e31I93ouWJ6ZYtxWUo6soedcD8ljzDO 70ozts+y1RuvddFNs6tooCnLtSxzFxPzUd/2k9q6ehOlMQE34F2Fxwet7/5/BmHW84lR n0cs8DXsfxYSNT3YJ8kJlTHrJBWhkJaEq7gko= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DGWNpgB8OzRH5PYg/7R6QWJCsisXaS7c4tVZXy9K6ZupFUP3SkYlo1D7irpM+iFigo m6W3f/ENqQUvG3fFwYgy6QI65OS14vyvK9kZwuR/NvoA1Bccj4PUPraRpPIagjxJzlgG XVeVYYsKt02I/y4X8TmUcifcx8M8a4X5FAc7M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.177.10 with SMTP id z10mr6927988ane.2.1240756730010; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:38:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F46E7E.4000300@lazlarlyricon.com> References: <4ad871310904260418u4e3b9778i577d56385cb1dfeb@mail.gmail.com> <49F46E7E.4000300@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:38:49 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310904260738q3ead07dbue33db8f176012aa6@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Rolf G Nielsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:38:51 -0000 On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Rolf G Nielsen wrote: > > And why is a graphical installer needed or even wanted? As several people, > including, I believe, Wojciech, pointed out, it would just make the > installation process slower without adding anything useful to functionality. > Concentrate on function and flexibility instead of eye candy. And I tend to > agree with Polyptron about language. I have several friends who wouldn't > dream of using a system that's English only. Simply because they do not > understand it well enough. > I never said a graphical installer was needed. My problem with this thread (and most others he contributes to) is Wojciech's attitude in this otherwise (mostly)helpful community. "Use something else" makes this entire list look unhelpful and unwilling to hear people's opinions on features others may find useful. > > Rolf Nielsen > -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 14:44:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82614106564A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from proxy1.bredband.net (proxy1.bredband.net [195.54.101.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398338FC1C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from ironport.bredband.com (195.54.101.120) by proxy1.bredband.net (7.3.139) id 49F2B1520005A6FC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:24:00 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlUFAF8L9ElV44BwPGdsb2JhbACBUJR7AQEBAbNgg3QF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,248,1238968800"; d="scan'208";a="509910780" Received: from c-7080e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO trapper.homedns.org) ([85.227.128.112]) by ironport1.bredband.com with ESMTP; 26 Apr 2009 16:23:59 +0200 Message-ID: <49F46E7E.4000300@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:23:58 +0200 From: Rolf G Nielsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090405) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4ad871310904260418u4e3b9778i577d56385cb1dfeb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310904260418u4e3b9778i577d56385cb1dfeb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:44:21 -0000 Glen Barber wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: >>> software installation CPU/RAM needs), run the dialog(3) interface. If >>> it's >>> a fast 686, default to a X environment. >> nonsense. please stop this stupid discussion at all. >> >> just use linux or windows (maybe PC-BSD) if it's important for you. > > This discussion is not about Linux or Windows. It is about a > graphical installer. If you are not going to contribute anything > useful to the discussion, close your email client. > And why is a graphical installer needed or even wanted? As several people, including, I believe, Wojciech, pointed out, it would just make the installation process slower without adding anything useful to functionality. Concentrate on function and flexibility instead of eye candy. And I tend to agree with Polyptron about language. I have several friends who wouldn't dream of using a system that's English only. Simply because they do not understand it well enough. -- Rolf Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 14:59:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8DC106566C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f162.google.com (mail-fx0-f162.google.com [209.85.220.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE958FC0A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so1482423fxm.43 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:59:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Xd+HRxbo40vf0QFCd4C8qLcfQrbcNWcvI0cgLeZJPpY=; b=xQwB23YZQ881ZUDR1Gx2VzxadNGZ4Gy08RbcuPB0JynLTUTqEnfvSr3E/5ATdpQz6o f9gjV6IcaByK9AyEYGAhMBz6C5S30Jj+1RZGn8/4eyqbOmnU+WL9MdnBeNa1y6RB3lc3 JoaalXXMSXt+ljdg3Ra0jVjRqwdMYjcEQ/bO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BtVUMoIAprd04P10Oc3+Zbujp4Jc7pgwVVbK+lX+NPKmU4yBQCM9Ssrie+hoNJmO8m YTO2uEhMTkJ8BmruUEHdG+ObHMG3CQ/pmLBF5RRX1PFmanSjeO3ZRtS/8RUoq3osLe1r QLtmO3ppUan1sKo6PVgm/3oEOvo7nKhBV1nbs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.224.2 with SMTP id b2mr2594407mur.2.1240757947841; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:59:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:59:07 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tim Judd , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:59:09 -0000 > nonsense. please stop this stupid discussion > at all Agreed. Only add GUI installer if it allows added functionality. Since text mode can do everything GUI mode can do (with less overhead), there is absolutely no reason to introduce a GUI installer. Let's diverge onto discussing functionality that should be added to the installer. If ever it becomes "necessary" for some functionality to have a GUI installer, then let's think about adding GUI mode. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 15:07:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65985106566C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:07:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from lrelay02.edpnet.net (lrelay02.edpnet.net [212.71.1.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93768FC1D for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:07:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from bsdaddict.localnet (213.219.158.218.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [213.219.158.218]) by lrelay02.edpnet.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3QF70m0017502 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:07:00 +0200 From: beni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:06:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/7.2-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <4ad871310904260418u4e3b9778i577d56385cb1dfeb@mail.gmail.com> <49F46E7E.4000300@lazlarlyricon.com> In-Reply-To: <49F46E7E.4000300@lazlarlyricon.com> X-Face: $,~&QrDrInYiH(ZUXjNH_0r4q\`w83!}&; +8c.K[`NnZwV|m$5N{NCkWesaR.9|yqIC[)g=a;93dz2mP7iv)LLzBd;6^Y:=*>@U;_\+4( MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200904261706.59497.beni@brinckman.info> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.92.1, clamav-milter version 0.92.1 on lrelay02.edpnet.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on lrelay02.edpnet.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: beni@brinckman.info List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:07:03 -0000 On Sunday 26 April 2009 16:23:58 Rolf G Nielsen wrote: > Glen Barber wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Wojciech Puchar > > > > wrote: > >>> software installation CPU/RAM needs), run the dialog(3) interface. If > >>> it's > >>> a fast 686, default to a X environment. > >> > >> nonsense. please stop this stupid discussion at all. > >> > >> just use linux or windows (maybe PC-BSD) if it's important for you. > > > > This discussion is not about Linux or Windows. It is about a > > graphical installer. If you are not going to contribute anything > > useful to the discussion, close your email client. > > And why is a graphical installer needed or even wanted? As several > people, including, I believe, Wojciech, pointed out, it would just make > the installation process slower without adding anything useful to > functionality. Concentrate on function and flexibility instead of eye > candy. And I tend to agree with Polyptron about language. I have several > friends who wouldn't dream of using a system that's English only. Simply > because they do not understand it well enough. Why should a graphical installer have less functionality ? And what is wrong with some eye candy ? Guys, please, wake up, we don't live in the 70's anymore ! I'm using pc-bsd. Why ? Cause of the easy and nice installer. It's as simple as that. And before anyone says "do it yourself", "get a sponsor" or something down those lines : if it is all about choice, why not give the people/user the choice ? Now I don't have any choice : sysinstall or pc-bsd... I'm for both : text and graphical :-) -- Beni. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 15:12:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC85F1065670 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:12:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elon@physik.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.tu-berlin.de (mail.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.7.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64ABD8FC13 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:12:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elon@physik.tu-berlin.de) X-tubIT-Incoming-IP: 130.149.58.163 Received: from mail.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.58.163] helo=mail.physik.tu-berlin.de) by mail.tu-berlin.de (exim-4.69/mailfrontend-a) with esmtp id 1Ly61c-0007PE-H4; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:12:12 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de [127.0.0.1]) by mail.physik.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237D411401; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:12:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at physik.tu-berlin.de Received: from mail.physik.tu-berlin.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.physik-pool.TU-Berlin.DE [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DzjNFK5SrFk1; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:12:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de [130.149.58.146]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.physik.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 232B811402; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:12:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (localhost.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de [127.0.0.1]) by emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3QFC7tB052479; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:12:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from elon@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de) Received: (from elon@localhost) by emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3QFC73j052478; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:12:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from elon) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:12:07 +0200 From: Leon =?iso-8859-15?Q?Me=DFner?= To: Tim Judd Message-ID: <20090426151207.GD75923@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de> References: <20090426020821.GA75923@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HWvPVVuAAfuRc6SZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-tubIT-Score: 0.0 () Cc: Leon =?iso-8859-15?Q?Me=DFner?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardwire drive0 to ad0 on hw raid. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:12:14 -0000 --HWvPVVuAAfuRc6SZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:39:09PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Leon Me=DFner > wrote: >=20 > > Hi, > > > > i'm having a problem with the disk numbering of RAID arrays (3ware > > 9650SE). When i boot, the array with my system is always the last > > numbered drive (ATM its ad16). This array is on its own controller. > > lsdev in the loader shows the array as drive0 (first BIOS drive i > > assume). > > Is there a way to hardwire this to ad0 as i dont want my system > > array to have different numbers when booting with different amounts > > of drives attached to the system. >=20 > That's one of the advantages of putting labels on a filesystem. You > then > specify in fstab that you mount by it's label versus the device name > directly. >=20 Ok, thanks. That works for getting my system mounted ok. Now i have a zfs raid on the rest of my drives (ad0-ad15). If i now boot with one of these removed, will zfs try to use my system disk (now beeing ad15) ? Is it necessary to label all my drives and setup zfs to use the labeled devices ? I need glabel for this right, because there is no fs on these drives. Thanks, Leon --HWvPVVuAAfuRc6SZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkn0eccACgkQJCh4HSRvNnwS4QCeMUneTqiALpYzNAIHSvjJyGGU sVsAn3u/5WFq+q1WDUzMPNz9OGKcfslQ =ck0f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HWvPVVuAAfuRc6SZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 15:13:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50D510656DA for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397FB8FC17 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.49.96.10]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:13:30 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n3QFDSZo014943; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:13:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:13:28 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Daniel Underwood Message-ID: <20090426151328.GA14595@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Apr 2009 15:13:30.0433 (UTC) FILETIME=[8EB8DB10:01C9C681] Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , Tim Judd Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:13:33 -0000 El día Sunday, April 26, 2009 a las 10:59:07AM -0400, Daniel Underwood escribió: > > nonsense. please stop this stupid discussion > > at all Sometimes I'm thinking in blacklist mails based on the Subject line in my ~/.procmailrc file; this thread 'Modern FreeBSD Installer?' for example would deserve it. matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 15:14:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B24106564A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:14:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f162.google.com (mail-fx0-f162.google.com [209.85.220.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BF58FC26 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so1487144fxm.43 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:14:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cYJ5b7BHaUuIdMmx3j4k3Rs3Umtr9IPu4vR1lgPM4ew=; b=hCbqvjAsUrgPROpizsin8zJpGAV7XYlYrG2I8VgKb2j+Hd5i1TxYQOe7j9EAGUdyYc AxR/gD6ZM9nkCKQoOmBFCd5x5/YeMqgraxICqN29GW5XZKhpFjZh7M41SXgTiitM/CLO fNBXvDuzpy/DpxFqzJ2wl4/Mf9SvtxLFdgb+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E+EoeEFwHofaaXaBHaw/wXx8JCZq47YPkFnIXJG7dK3YfF70nA879FoWcOlVU3upTZ KIXuYCgL+rljpgz5HbNlwRtNnqEtFI/3W53pjs+iYYmh/1HzXbeF2LoD7iXEwKHNlOCn bUAbRTfEpRWHukSGy3MbWc5ZeE+Dz6GE6Jk4I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.102.218.8 with SMTP id q8mr2580100mug.45.1240758890428; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:14:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200904261706.59497.beni@brinckman.info> References: <4ad871310904260418u4e3b9778i577d56385cb1dfeb@mail.gmail.com> <49F46E7E.4000300@lazlarlyricon.com> <200904261706.59497.beni@brinckman.info> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:14:50 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: beni@brinckman.info Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:14:52 -0000 I didn't say a graphical installer has less functionality. I said it has no more. On Sunday, April 26, 2009, beni wrote: > On Sunday 26 April 2009 16:23:58 Rolf G Nielsen wrote: >> Glen Barber wrote: >> > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Wojciech Puchar >> > >> > wrote: >> >>> software installation CPU/RAM needs), run the dialog(3) interface. = =A0If >> >>> it's >> >>> a fast 686, default to a X environment. >> >> >> >> nonsense. please stop this stupid discussion at all. >> >> >> >> just use linux or windows (maybe PC-BSD) if it's important for you. >> > >> > This discussion is not about Linux or Windows. =A0It is about a >> > graphical installer. =A0If you are not going to contribute anything >> > useful to the discussion, close your email client. >> >> And why is a graphical installer needed or even wanted? As several >> people, including, I believe, Wojciech, pointed out, it would just make >> the installation process slower without adding anything useful to >> functionality. Concentrate on function and flexibility instead of eye >> candy. And I tend to agree with Polyptron about language. I have several >> friends who wouldn't dream of using a system that's English only. Simply >> because they do not understand it well enough. > > Why should a graphical installer have less functionality ? And what is wr= ong > with some eye candy ? Guys, please, wake up, we don't live in the 70's an= ymore > ! I'm using pc-bsd. Why ? Cause of the easy and nice installer. It's as s= imple > as that. > And before anyone says "do it yourself", "get a sponsor" or something dow= n > those lines : if it is all about choice, why not give the people/user the > choice ? Now I don't have any choice : sysinstall or pc-bsd... > I'm for both : text and graphical :-) > > -- > Beni. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 15:45:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326DF106564A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:45:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5E78FC19 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1419623qwe.7 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:45:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=9lUpht4CJPtOeaMP7PcW5ptGIfIDVugjcchfkzAyr5E=; b=xw8xCB/PsV+cVULS92267/BvOdbZGbyyiVxwM+Gj7HCkzCNn5qTYbCA6OdXCrBFv6Y 9QZsL7haqjwMr6LjrkLLLRGN4nSheYQJwTHhwErj170sUHbJjT1bt87ySeWtA8CpYO8U 2KHCPc/86ZyhkW6S8L6VBE6kUaOutTN9BJHZI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=QmWBe91d6zB5QxjeHuu3P4xz9FQ+0smTS72QNDj206V4Sl3Ts3fWe7qB4LBdJ4cal6 X6forq0kSCEc9tAkoJQTZx5hRgaYHNZCpkjHhTsTi6kgQg59ldHR2ZjSES+1x0PYGjiN r2EHKenYeD6wU8UuWLKE7sRzy3VrJz59XGGv4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.99.205 with SMTP id v13mr8067504vcn.105.1240760735160; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:45:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090426085354.c7de58d4.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20090426085354.c7de58d4.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Tim Judd Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:45:20 -0600 Message-ID: To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:45:36 -0000 > > > > I've also thought about the concept of a web-ui installer, even if it's > run > > from the local machine. The benefit of a webui installer is that you can > > give the disk to someone, tell them to put it up on a publically > available > > IP address and just sit back and let it run. but I ramble on.... > > I'm not sure I understood this correctly... Do you suggest > something like running a (minimalistic) web server from the > machine where FreeBSD is about to be installed, and then > have either a HTTP connection from localhost or from a > distant machine (where someone else can do the install)? > Yes. To both. lynx or maybe opera depending on if it's a console install or X install. Otherwise could be used from remote so the people unfamiliar with this OS (let's think datacenter) can pop in a disk, assign an IP (maybe within the lynx/opera browser), and offer up a password to secure the remote install. I like this idea, but it's my plaything when it comes to actually making a prototype when I decide if I want to move further into it or bail on it. The idea just sounded nice. --TJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 16:01:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E53106566B for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) Received: from mxsf05.insightbb.com (mxsf05.insightbb.com [74.128.0.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A538FC15 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,248,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="630300929" Received: from unknown (HELO asav02.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf05.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 26 Apr 2009 11:33:06 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AogCAAMc9ElKg4ed/2dsb2JhbAAIyjaDdAU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,248,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="313140778" Received: from 74-131-135-157.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO [192.168.2.3]) ([74.131.135.157]) by asavout02.manage.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 26 Apr 2009 11:33:06 -0400 Message-ID: <49F47DF9.8020208@InsightBB.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:30:01 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: X11 MGA driver and xrandr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:01:39 -0000 This system has been a dual-monitor since before the change-over from XFree86 to xorg. The change-over resulted in losing dual-monitor capability, but I've recently taken another shot at it. I knew I'd need to be patient during the change-over. Both monitors are presenting the same desktop, not spread across them, just duplicated, which isn't useful. 8o) The system is running 7.1p4, and latest ports, kde3.5.10_1. xrandr reports only one screen, Screen0. Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 1280 x 1024 default connected 1280x1024+0+0 0mm x 0mm 1280x1024 60.0* 75.0 1280x960 60.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 85.0 75.0 70.0 60.0 832x624 75.0 800x600 85.0 75.0 72.0 60.0 56.0 65.0 700x525 75.0 60.0 640x512 75.0 60.0 640x480 85.0 75.0 73.0 67.0 60.0 720x400 70.0 85.0 640x400 85.0 576x432 75.0 640x350 85.0 512x384 85.0 75.0 70.0 60.0 416x312 75.0 400x300 85.0 75.0 72.0 60.0 56.0 320x240 85.0 360x200 85.0 I've tried running X without xorg.conf, with only ServerFlags Option AllowEmptyInput, and I even tried to use a Monitor section to force VGA2 on. I don't know if the numbering starts at 0 or 1, but I've tried VGA1 and VGA2, with Option Enable true. I have a Matrox G550 with a standard VGA connector and a DVI connector with the VGA adapter on it. How do I get xrandr to recognize my second port. Should I be waiting for a few more changes to MGA driver? I'm not currently using mga_hal. I tried hal just now and it doesn't help. Also, I noticed that when I use root to autoconfig X, it sets the driver to vesa, not mga, although there are MGA lines in xorg.conf. Please don't tell me to get different video cards. 8o) -- Steven Friedrich Lexington, KY 40509 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 17:29:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88277106564A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:29:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0098E8FC18 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:29:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58BDEB4C9D; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:29:00 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FEC4509B; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:29:00 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vUnHApTfnOhM; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:29:00 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl28-228.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.155.228]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AC54503F; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:29:00 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3QHSwuX048376; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:28:58 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3QHStTt048375; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:28:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Erik Trulsson References: <20090426001855.GA89151@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:28:55 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20090426001855.GA89151@owl.midgard.homeip.net> (Erik Trulsson's message of "Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:18:55 +0200") Message-ID: <87zle3mii0.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Tim Judd , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:29:03 -0000 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:18:55 +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: > Better would be to check (somehow) for the presence of a keyboard and > a screen. If those are not present forget about X. If they are > present then the user at least has a possibility of using X. Deferring to the user all the decisions that are impossible to make with a reasonable chance of doing the Right Thing for everyone seems ok too. Solaris has been shipping for quite some time with an installer that can run on serial consoles, an installer that can launch a simple terminal-based session under X11, and an installer that can launch a Java GUI version in all its bloated glory. The decision of which installer to launch is left to the user who sits on the boot console, who is presented with a simple menu like: +-------------------------------------------------------+ | | | Please select installation type (default = 3): _ | | | | 1. Text-only console installation. | | | | 2. Terminal based GUI installation. | | | | 3. Dialog driven GUI installation. | | | +-------------------------------------------------------+ There is also a timeout that launches the user-friendly GUI dialogs after a few seconds. I think this is a reasonable approach to the problem of which installation mode to launch. The default is `user friendly', there is a timeout so the installer won't get stuck forever in the prompt, and there is still an option for a plain console-based installation for everyone who wants to go that way. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 17:32:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676191065670 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D998FC18 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:32:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-27-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.27.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227633DF1F; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:32:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3QHW7So001436; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:32:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:32:07 +0200 From: Polytropon To: beni@brinckman.info Message-Id: <20090426193207.5c27c614.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200904261706.59497.beni@brinckman.info> References: <4ad871310904260418u4e3b9778i577d56385cb1dfeb@mail.gmail.com> <49F46E7E.4000300@lazlarlyricon.com> <200904261706.59497.beni@brinckman.info> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:32:20 -0000 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:06:58 +0200, beni wrote: > Why should a graphical installer have less functionality ? hasn't been claimed. GUI installer just requires more resources, more overhead. > And what is wrong > with some eye candy ? Eye candy is wrong exactly when it reduces functionality (instead of adding it). For example, if you need more time for an installation, require a mouse, or can't use your Braille readout anymore - then it's wrong- Or better: It's useless. > Guys, please, wake up, we don't live in the 70's anymore > ! That's why FreeBSD is not following strange MICROS~1 concepts of how to do several things. :-) > I'm using pc-bsd. Why ? Cause of the easy and nice installer. It's as simple > as that. You value an operating system by how the installer LOOKS like? I'm sure you're kidding. :-) Honestly: People can't be that stupid. Oh wait... okay, I didn't say anything. :-) The point is - what I would have better said instead of the previous two paragraphs - a text mode installer LOOKS more serious. Serious biznis, you know? Servers, and workstations, and operating system. For work to be done. Lots of work. Ask people who work as admins, who keep mailservers running, webservers, application servers. Do they choose the OS by the amount of eye candy in the INSTALLER? I'm sure they don't. > And before anyone says "do it yourself", "get a sponsor" or something down > those lines : if it is all about choice, why not give the people/user the > choice ? Now I don't have any choice : sysinstall or pc-bsd... Or DesktopBSD. :-) > I'm for both : text and graphical :-) As I explained in an earlier post: If the GUI installer is (a) not the only way, (b) not an auto-default, (c) does work well enough even on older hardware and (d) doesn't make things more complicated, I wouldn't have any problem with it, I would even use it! But please note that many users of FreeBSD are scared by the way other GUI driven installers work. Much time is needed to do an installation, and there's more emphasize put on how things look instead of how they work. So I can understand everyone who says: "When FreeBSD gets a crappy installerjust like 'Windows' and some Linusi, then I would look around for another OS that fits my needs." -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 17:44:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B381065670 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E818FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-27-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.27.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2955D3DE68; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:44:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3QHiAfc001482; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:44:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:44:10 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <87zle3mii0.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <20090426001855.GA89151@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <87zle3mii0.fsf@kobe.laptop> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , Tim Judd Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:44:18 -0000 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:28:55 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > I think this is a reasonable approach to the problem of which > installation mode to launch. The default is `user friendly', [...] No, the default is GUI. That's a big difference because it entirely depends on the user. Imagine a bline user. Is GUI user friendly for him? No, because he has zero output on his Braille line. The installer does something and he doesn't even notice. My idea would be to add a short description for each choice (so the illiterate user can make an assumption of what he will get), but default to the SIMPLEST option always. That's the idea of FreeBSD: The installer provides a basic OS that runs, but YOU need to install the applications you want. The philosophy is: If you want it, go get it. It's not that it fills GBs on your hard disk with stuff you'll never touch (as in my case, PC-BSD would do with the whole KDE stuff). FreeBSD installer selection --------------------------------------------------- Please select the environment where you want to perform the installation (1) Text mode installer This installer runs well on a serial line and is intended for professional users. It runs on every system (desktop and server). (2) Graphical installer (basic) This installer is intended for PCs. It gives help and advices and guides you through the installation. It's recommended for new users. (3) Graphical installer (extended) Works as (2), but gives even more help and advices. Runs on most recent computers. It can be utilized by new users, too. You have 30 seconds to make a selection. If no selection is made, the text mode installer (fail-safe mode) will be launched. Choice ===> _ PF1 PF2 PF10 Help Language Abort > [...] there is a > timeout so the installer won't get stuck forever in the prompt, and > there is still an option for a plain console-based installation for > everyone who wants to go that way. The plain console shouldn't be the option, it should be the default. The GUI should be the option because it IS optional (read: not required) for real work. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 17:47:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2581106564A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7AB8FC1C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D967E837; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:47:27 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:47:24 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904261947.25154.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Tom Worster Subject: Re: portmaster -a on a live server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:47:29 -0000 On Sunday 26 April 2009 01:12:48 Tom Worster wrote: > thanks for the tip, mel. i got rid of the ports involved and reinstalled > with WITHOUT_X11=yes and the install was faster and things are a lot > tidier. > > i had no idea that i ought to be configuring port builds with env vars. is > there documentation anywhere so i find out about these options in gneral? /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk comments section and /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.*.mk for specific collections, like bsd.databases.mk lets you set a default version for various database engines, for which multiple versions exist in the port. It does not have to be env vars, make.conf works as well, but you will forget in 3 months you have set it, so be careful what you choose and where you put it. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 17:55:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A733106564A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7828FC13 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ppp-71-139-35-171.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [71.139.35.171]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n3QHtDPR081642 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49F49FFF.1080708@rawbw.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:55:11 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090424) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Is 'kldunload msdosfs_iconv' supposed to be safe? It hangs the system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:55:13 -0000 I've compiled kernel without msdosfs. When I mount some FAT system msdosfs.ko,msdosfs_iconv.ko,libiconv.ko are being loaded. When I unmount this FAT all those .ko modules stay. 'kldunload msdosfs' unloads it ok. But 'kldunload msdosfs_iconv' hangs OS immediately making it unusable. My guess is that there are some bugs in some of those modules. Should I file a PR for this? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 18:11:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8871D106566C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:11:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neo@gothic-chat.de) Received: from gothnet.eu (srv1.gothnet.eu [83.133.111.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413FD8FC16 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:11:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neo@gothic-chat.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothnet.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B6333C97 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:11:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gothnet.eu Received: from gothnet.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gothnet.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q82+-OboCq4x for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:11:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (p4FE64AE4.dip.t-dialin.net [79.230.74.228]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: neo) by gothnet.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 622F133C96 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:11:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49F4A3D8.3090106@gothic-chat.de> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:11:36 +0200 From: "Neo [GC]" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090426001855.GA89151@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <87zle3mii0.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:11:48 -0000 Just my two cents: Why a graphical installer? Shure, it looks nice, easy, modern and more accessable (examples: Mac OS X, Vista), but on the other hand, for me FreeBSD never was intended to be fancy, but to be functional. The text mode installer: - works on every PC, every graphics card, every screen, with serial console, with ssh, with screenreader - is easy enough for people who are able to use it after the installation - doesn't need a mouse to be usable FreeBSD isn't Linux/OSX/Windows, FreeBSD is not for users who want eyecandy, FreeBSD is for professinals who want perfectly working systems, who know how to edit .conf-files, which packages the need and so on. (at least I think so) IMHO, the biggest problem with graphical installers is that they just don't work for everyone. For example, my last attempts to install Ubuntu Linux stopped when the installer didn't work with my graphics card or just choosed a mode my TFT didn't support. This was such a bad experience, I didn't wanted to try it anymore. Regards, Neo [GC] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 18:45:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359431065680 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdc@prgmr.com) Received: from mail.prgmr.com (mail.prgmr.com [64.62.173.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C6E8FC17 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdc@prgmr.com) Received: from frylock.local (c-71-198-249-174.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [71.198.249.174]) by mail.prgmr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFC668B5B for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49F4ABB3.6000808@prgmr.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:45:07 -0700 From: Michael David Crawford Organization: Prgmr.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Partitioning for multiple systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:45:32 -0000 I have a machine I plan to use solely for testing. I have FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT on it right now, and would like to add FreeBSD 7.2-RC2 as well as CentOS 5.3 Linux. Presently I have three Master Boot Record primary partitions - "slices" in the FreeBSD parlance, if I understand correctly: - A Linux slice to be used for CentOS' /boot - A BSD slice subdivided into partitions that hold 8.0-CURRENT - A big FAT slice (so to speak) meant to be split up for 7.2 and CentOS A PC-style Master Boot Record can hold a maximum of four primary partitions, or it can hold three primaries and a single extended partition that is subdivided into logical partitions. The geometries of the logical partitions aren't given in the MBR, but exist as a linked list. I *should* be able to split that FAT slice up into a primary for 7.2 and an extended partition that will hold CentOS' other partitions; however: In Googling about this, I have read some dire warnings about FreeBSD being unable to understand logical partitions; apparently installing FreeBSD *before* an extended partition will result in all your logicals getting trashed. One is advised to put all the FreeBSD MBR partitions *after* the extended partition. Is that the case? Have you any advice for me? One more thing: if it's possible, I'd like for the /home directory to be shared between both of my FreeBSD installations. In a normal installation, there is a real /usr/home directory, with /home being a symbolic link. If I'm running FreeBSD out of one MBR partition (or slice), can I mount a directory that's in a different one? Thanks for your help! Mike -- Michael David Crawford mdc@prgmr.com prgmr.com - We Don't Assume You Are Stupid. Xen-Powered Virtual Private Servers: http://prgmr.com/xen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 18:45:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467041065688 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5CB8FC1A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3QIjeWr092979; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:45:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n3QIjdgO092976; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:45:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:45:39 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Steven Friedrich In-Reply-To: <49F47DF9.8020208@InsightBB.com> Message-ID: References: <49F47DF9.8020208@InsightBB.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:45:40 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X11 MGA driver and xrandr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:45:41 -0000 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009, Steven Friedrich wrote: > This system has been a dual-monitor since before the change-over from XFree86 > to xorg. The change-over resulted in losing dual-monitor capability, but > I've recently taken another shot at it. I knew I'd need to be patient during > the change-over. The changeover from XFree86 to xorg was quite a while back. There have been substantial changes to xorg in the last couple of months. > Both monitors are presenting the same desktop, not spread across them, just > duplicated, which isn't useful. 8o) > > The system is running 7.1p4, and latest ports, kde3.5.10_1. xrandr reports > only one screen, Screen0. There's information here: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/mgapatch/xorg-patch.txt > I've tried running X without xorg.conf, with only ServerFlags Option > AllowEmptyInput, and I even tried to use a Monitor section to force VGA2 on. > I don't know if the numbering starts at 0 or 1, but I've tried VGA1 and VGA2, > with Option Enable true. I have a Matrox G550 with a standard VGA connector > and a DVI connector with the VGA adapter on it. Not sure if the DVI connector on a G550 will work with mga 1.4.9 at all. Or if 1.4.9 has been patched to work with xorg-server 1.6. > How do I get xrandr to recognize my second port. Should I be waiting for a > few more changes to MGA driver? You could try to get someone interested in it. Those cards are at least ten years old, and mostly AGP, so they're not likely to get a lot of interest. > I'm not currently using mga_hal. I tried hal just now and it doesn't help. hal is not related to mga_hal; two different things. Recent versions of the mga driver don't use mga_hal anyway. > Also, I noticed that when I use root to autoconfig X, it sets the driver to > vesa, not mga, although there are MGA lines in xorg.conf. > > Please don't tell me to get different video cards. 8o) That's what I did, after dragging a couple of MGA 450 cards along for the last few years because of their video quality with long VGA cables. But newer motherboards don't have AGP slots any more, and current, supported video cards have DVI ports that can at least match the MGA video quality with long cables (and DVI monitors). Radeon X1650 is supported and can be had in AGP or PCIE versions. Just saying. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 18:52:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7392D106567D for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:52:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216CF8FC2A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1459421qwe.7 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:52:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Y2GYwXI5Wb3A66NJKeMtz4aoFKQNcdUzelSwsiq9ubE=; b=HmV6LZtPQRg7Sl9A4+A8A5qQS0ZlwTQJNldfneaY2pcb2jwN5D0oLL5Ffo3+N5c3Dj MLu2xQNw8gd62EgvecuS3h5L0bu6CNQV5NcoRoXO9DbhWNA0j6IRhg05hc9417oxjv7C YPYIuANl30IiCHTom0q07unKHjLus9xQqHx8o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OZ/eC2T++w0K96xSB+QdLay9Lixk7SpQ+mU/a4Zz5AlVt5baSw3K5C0SuqeF8ODqpA hXO+0kbggxHzHi7RI6FUFzqWp7JHziNktSA9oycqT/P1i0HyOY5+n2BpGe04/y0eUEpT xlXAR9rTd4Lci7uzVeva+BzbomXHyzsFcwR98= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.84.196 with SMTP id k4mr2032545qcl.86.1240771977213; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:52:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87zle3mii0.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <20090426001855.GA89151@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <87zle3mii0.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:52:56 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Giorgos Keramidas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , Tim Judd Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:52:58 -0000 On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:18:55 +0200, Erik Trulsson > wrote: > > Better would be to check (somehow) for the presence of a keyboard and > > a screen. If those are not present forget about X. If they are > > present then the user at least has a possibility of using X. > > Deferring to the user all the decisions that are impossible to make with > a reasonable chance of doing the Right Thing for everyone seems ok too. > > Solaris has been shipping for quite some time with an installer that can > run on serial consoles, an installer that can launch a simple > terminal-based session under X11, and an installer that can launch a > Java GUI version in all its bloated glory. > > The decision of which installer to launch is left to the user who sits > on the boot console, who is presented with a simple menu like: > > +-------------------------------------------------------+ > | | > | Please select installation type (default = 3): _ | > | | > | 1. Text-only console installation. | > | | > | 2. Terminal based GUI installation. | > | | > | 3. Dialog driven GUI installation. | > | | > +-------------------------------------------------------+ > > There is also a timeout that launches the user-friendly GUI dialogs > after a few seconds. > > I think this is a reasonable approach to the problem of which > installation mode to launch. The default is `user friendly', there is a > timeout so the installer won't get stuck forever in the prompt, and > there is still an option for a plain console-based installation for > everyone who wants to go that way. > > _ > Last week I have installed Solaris 10 ( 2008-10 ) on a PC ( x86 ) having an Intel main board . It did not recognize Philips 220WS LCD ( 1680 x 1050 ) monitor and selected itself a text-mode install and also booted in text mode . I moved its hard disk to a PC with an Asus main board having an attached CRT Philips 109B6 ( maximum resolution : 1920 x 1440 ) monitor . Since boards were different , Solaris 10 could not boot . I started an upgrade installation . During that time it become necessary to leave PC for a while assuming that installation will wait . With its count down and start by itself in its GUI mode . it started to install automatically . At the end , the install become useless because its default detections were not what parts were there ( I think it used previously detected parts without checking the present parts except monitor and perhaps some others , I do not know exactly .) . For such reasons , personally , I hate (1) auto-start installations . (2) auto-detect parts without asking correctness of detection when its conclusion is not verifiable by the installers ( for example (ADSL router modem is not detected correctly even its network card is detected and installation continued with assumption that there is no such a device . ) ( erroneously detection of monitor resolutions and using a default resolution which is not usable due to mismatch to display characteristics of the monitor ) ... ) With respect to experiences gained continuously installing operating systems , my idea about FreeBSD sysinstal is that it is an excellent installation system developed by very conscious persons which they know what to do very well . The points I suggested for improvements are toward to make it easy for the beginners . For a computing system , to satisfy needs of both beginners and expert users is not a very easy task . Making a part easy for a group may make it difficult for other group . Using defaults is not always correct due to hardware detection difficulties . My inclination is toward the beginners as much as possible because this approach will enlarge FreeBSD user group . In reality , design of a user interface is within subject areas of Ergonomy , Human-Computer Interaction , and User Interface Design which there are plenty amount of researches about those subjects , and many scientific journals and books . When I was in University a research assistant was working toward a PhD in Ergonomy by researching user interface software design principles to reduce the human errors during control of a system ( for example , effects of menu depths ) . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 19:05:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56D010656A6 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE558FC15 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:05:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-27-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.27.202]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1853016C0E92; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:05:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3QJ5Fm6001988; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:05:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:05:15 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Neo [GC]" Message-Id: <20090426210515.69a14c63.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49F4A3D8.3090106@gothic-chat.de> References: <20090426001855.GA89151@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <87zle3mii0.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> <49F4A3D8.3090106@gothic-chat.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:05:37 -0000 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:11:36 +0200, "Neo [GC]" wrote: > Just my two cents: I may add two Eurocents. :-) > Why a graphical installer? Shure, it looks nice, easy, modern and more > accessable (examples: Mac OS X, Vista), but on the other hand, for me > FreeBSD never was intended to be fancy, but to be functional. I think the majority of FreeBSD users chose FreeBSD because of this simple consideration. If I wanted a bloated system that requires the most recent hardware, gets usable after 3 minutes and does the same as an operating system 5 years ago, well, I wouldn't use FreeBSD then. I won't say FreeBSD is for servers only. Because it is a multi-purpose OS, it can be run on servers, desktops and mixed forms. I'm using it on the desktop EXCLUSIVELY since 4.0, without problems. Because it doesn't require re-installs every few weeks (as famous "modern" OSes do), I don't need a GUI in the installer, because I have enough GUI when the system is up and running. > The text mode installer: > - works on every PC, every graphics card, every screen, with serial > console, with ssh, with screenreader Exactly. The GUI installer simply cannot run on a serial console. That's nothing bad per se, X can't run on a serial console either, but the principle of GUI dictates that I won't work on a serial console. > - is easy enough for people who are able to use it after the installation It's really easy if you can read and have a minimum knowledge about what you're doing. If you don't know anything, can't read and are stupid, you shouldn't try to install an operating system on a computer. :-) > - doesn't need a mouse to be usable That's why I mentioned the keyboard even in regards of a GUI installer. As long as it can be used without a mouse, only by the keyboard, it's okay. > FreeBSD isn't Linux/OSX/Windows, FreeBSD is not for users who want > eyecandy, FreeBSD is for professinals who want perfectly working > systems, who know how to edit .conf-files, which packages the need and > so on. (at least I think so) I'd agree with this. > IMHO, the biggest problem with graphical installers is that they just > don't work for everyone. That's right. Because modern X (and you can't use old X) requires a quite up-to-date system, older machines that can be used very well for FreeBSD cannot even be installed. X has problems on a running system, how can we expect it to be part of such a basic operational routine as an OS installer? > For example, my last attempts to install Ubuntu > Linux stopped when the installer didn't work with my graphics card or > just choosed a mode my TFT didn't support. This was such a bad > experience, I didn't wanted to try it anymore. And this experience could scare away potential users who have heared or read that FreeBSD is a versatile and powerful OS. And then, they are presented a child-play installer with beeps and whistles, with dancing elephants and funny bunny, and suddenly, the system hangs, reboots, and they won't know why. Can you imagine they'll try a second time? :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 19:18:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C64106564A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40958FC1A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:18:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-27-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.27.202]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CCA16C0E95; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:18:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3QJIMOX002013; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:18:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:18:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Message-Id: <20090426211822.77e8dd6b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20090426001855.GA89151@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <87zle3mii0.fsf@kobe.laptop> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Tim Judd , List , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:18:30 -0000 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:52:56 -0400, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > For such reasons , personally , I hate > > (1) auto-start installations . Dangerous. Simply dangerous. Something as important an the installation of an operating system should not rely on assumptions and guessings... "the user will want to install me on one slice, I wipe the whole disk, then put everything into one big / partition, and by the way, install KDE and all kinds of servers which I run automatically, if needed or not, because sometimes someone could need some of the services." > (2) auto-detect parts without asking correctness of detection when its > conclusion is not verifiable > by the installers > [...] > ( erroneously detection of monitor resolutions and using a default > resolution which is not usable > due to mismatch to display characteristics of the monitor ) ... ) In regards of X, this happens often enough. A possible workaround would be some kind of fail-safe minimal setting, such as 800x600 which should (!) work everywhere. Of course, all the display stuff of the installer would need to fit onto a 800x600 screen. If not - big problem: cannot reach controls, even cannot see them. > With respect to experiences gained continuously installing operating systems > , my idea about FreeBSD sysinstal is that it is an excellent installation > system developed by very conscious persons which they know what to do very > well . The installer, on the other hand, relies on the user - that he knows what he's doing. If I just go there and clickityclick, I can't expect the system to read my mind. :-) > The points I suggested for improvements are toward to make it easy for the > beginners . For a computing system , to satisfy needs of both beginners and > expert users is not a very easy task . This could be achieved through "installation profiles" with a well-intended set of selections (partition, things to install, preconfiguration). The installers of PC-BSD and DesktopBSD exactly do this already. They offer a preconfigured X / KDE environment for average users. The installation process is made so easy that it's quite impossible to fail here. > Making a part easy for a group may > make it difficult for other group . Difficult, and, in the following, impossible. This will be the point when even long-time FreeBSD users will abandon this system. > Using defaults is not always correct > due to hardware detection difficulties . Any defaults should be as fail-safe as possible, and that's a very hard question how to set them. > My inclination is toward the beginners as much as possible because this > approach will enlarge FreeBSD user group . And again, I may say that PC-BSD and DesktopBSD exactly do this. Those who want to use "pure FreeBSD" are usually intelligent (sorry) enough to have no problems with sysinstall. Anything than sysinstall makes it harder for them to learn, and finally, it's about learning when you're using an operating system. > When I was in University a research assistant was working toward a PhD in > Ergonomy by researching user interface software design principles to reduce > the human errors during control of a system ( for example , effects of menu > depths ) . It starts way before this point: You have three buttons. Which to make the default button? Human perception. Use colours. Which colours? Colour blindness, anyone? Attention distraction. Where to put the buttons? What to put on the screen along with them? Giving an alert: How? I could go on for hours. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 19:19:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5152010656E6 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdc@prgmr.com) Received: from mail.prgmr.com (mail.prgmr.com [64.62.173.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0488FC15 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdc@prgmr.com) Received: from frylock.local (c-71-198-249-174.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [71.198.249.174]) by mail.prgmr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5F468B5B for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49F4B3C3.5060601@prgmr.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:19:31 -0700 From: Michael David Crawford Organization: Prgmr.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090426001855.GA89151@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <87zle3mii0.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> <49F4A3D8.3090106@gothic-chat.de> <20090426210515.69a14c63.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090426210515.69a14c63.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:19:47 -0000 I got cursed up in heaps on the debian-user list, because I had the gall to assert that just installing a service shouldn't actually start it running. I said that because I had done a full Gnome install on my PowerMac 8500. What I didn't realize ahead of time was that it was going to install gdm, the Gnome Display Manager - Gnome's version of an X11 login prompt. Unfortunately, the X server didn't recognize my video, so I was presented with a black screen and no way to get out of X11. I don't remember exactly how I fixed that, but I do recall that the whole process was very painful and that I had to remove gdm. Apple doesn't have a problem providing GUI installers for Macintoshes because they have the full specs on all the video cards, and lots of engineers and QA personnel. But Open Source developers often have incomplete specs, and are chronically lacking in coders with the needed expertise. They're often lacking in hardware to test with as well. I can see all kinds of reason why a graphical installer would be nice - but it shouldn't be there at all unless you can count on it working reliably. The appeal of a nice installer is probably not worth the effort it would require to achieve that reliability. Just about every day I read on the FreeBSD-Current list about ZFS failing or even crashing the whole system. There are many, many profound benefits a reliable ZFS implementation could bring to the community. That would be a better use of the community's limited resources. Mike -- Michael David Crawford mdc@prgmr.com prgmr.com - We Don't Assume You Are Stupid. Xen-Powered Virtual Private Servers: http://prgmr.com/xen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 19:26:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765E7106566B for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:26:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com (out3.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7FA8FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:26:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1904322777; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:26:23 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: C30E8TuVqWbGvNVXUUPJcKrNEX/T9gnAzLbiajUDW/S9 1240773983 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 66DF132984; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:26:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Lisa Casey In-Reply-To: <7AF4EC3FE1B54A2DB854159E1D6D6715@lisac> X-Priority: 3 References: <7AF4EC3FE1B54A2DB854159E1D6D6715@lisac> Message-Id: <5E48C056-B6C0-45C0-A850-282E57982D7C@goldmark.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:26:21 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntp problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:26:24 -0000 On Apr 20, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Lisa Casey wrote: > Running FreeBSD 5.3 IN /etc/ntp.conf I have: > > server time.nist.gov prefer > server tock.gpsclock.com Your actual question has already been answered, but I'd like to point out that people really shouldn't be using those NTP servers unless you have a very specific reason to. You will get just as good (or better) time and help distribute load if you use server 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org server 1.north-america.pool.ntp.org server 2.north-america.pool.ntp.org server 3.north-america.pool.ntp.org (I'm assuming that north-america is appropriate for you given you current setting). And if you have a static IP address and a reliable connection and server (good network uptime), please consider joining the pool. It takes negligible resources. http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/join.html And more information about this pool of NTP servers is available at http://www.pool.ntp.org/ -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 19:46:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114451065689 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:46:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D758FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-27-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.27.202]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4442216C0EB1; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:46:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3QJkHKp002501; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:46:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:46:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Michael David Crawford Message-Id: <20090426214617.1cc2baf5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49F4B3C3.5060601@prgmr.com> References: <20090426001855.GA89151@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <87zle3mii0.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> <49F4A3D8.3090106@gothic-chat.de> <20090426210515.69a14c63.freebsd@edvax.de> <49F4B3C3.5060601@prgmr.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:46:25 -0000 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:19:31 -0700, Michael David Crawford wrote: > I got cursed up in heaps on the debian-user list, because I had the gall > to assert that just installing a service shouldn't actually start it > running. Security considerations apply here. As well as "should the system recognize any media and automount it -o rw by default without asking?", this can cause problems. Or at least confusion. For example, when I put in a blank CD or DVD, maybe I don't want to use it right now, but later? But suddenly, a burning application pops up and annoys me. > Apple doesn't have a problem providing GUI installers for Macintoshes > because they have the full specs on all the video cards, and lots of > engineers and QA personnel. Yes, Apple can do that, no problem. But FreeBSD runs on the "good" PC x86 stuff, where manufacturers are known for not sticking to existing standards, and where developers have to reverse-engineer or trial+error to get things working. This is not a good condition for an installer. > Just about every day I read on the FreeBSD-Current list about ZFS > failing or even crashing the whole system. There are many, many > profound benefits a reliable ZFS implementation could bring to the > community. That would be a better use of the community's limited resources. Completely agree. When I see how great ZFS runs on Solaris, I wish to have this on FreeBSD rather than a colourful GUI installer that I only use one time per 5 years. :-) Remember: The installer is a thing you only use once. Of course, the "first sight" effect may apply here, and the judging about this effect is mainly influenced by previous experiences with OS installations. So if you come from OpenBSD or LFS, you'll say, "Wow, what a comfortable and nice installer!", while others may say: "This is DOS!" :-) Much more important are tools you use more than one time, and again, PC-BSD and DesktopBSD offer nice GUI tools for system administration (desktopbsd-tools can be installed on a "pure" FreeBSD from the ports), so no need to re-invent the wheel here. Those who insist on GUI tools already have their answers, and those who administer their system "purely" won't even touch these tools. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 19:50:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CD4106566C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com (out3.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD878FC1D for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:50:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7305E324022; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:50:41 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: RBH1UNP5hSJq9v6mEl5TdbCAe8UTlRW+7vMkvHQ+7OAA 1240775441 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 159A9B0B9; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4E42E0A5-E8BB-4482-9EDE-F05F1E76186E@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Peter Schuller In-Reply-To: <20090425101042.GA48343@hyperion.scode.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:50:39 -0500 References: <20090425101042.GA48343@hyperion.scode.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mergemaster -U overwriting modified files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:50:42 -0000 On Apr 25, 2009, at 5:10 AM, Peter Schuller wrote: > Unfortunately I recently discovered that it does not seem to do what > you might expect. For example it nuked my mailer.conf on one machine, > and my /etc/namedb/named.conf (!!!) on another machine. Me, too. I lost exactly those two files during recent updates on two machines, using -Ui to mergemaster. After restoring them from back-up, I've added them to the exclude list in mergemaster.rc as IGNORE_FILES='/etc/motd /etc/namedb/named.conf /etc/mail/mailer.conf' Until I saw your post and the other responses, I had just assumed that I'd been somehow careless when running mergemaster. But now it looks like a bug. I've been using -Ui for mergemaster for a while now, but only seem to have experienced this problem recently. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 20:11:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355861065670 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:11:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38448FC1B for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1475900qwe.7 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:11:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VyStllVS8qNF4mr+3cYpnS7hNZAAqBCbXHUnaJVGPHI=; b=Qv3+aiOzy58KRvRAWFJqmHjV1I+Qi/gnLmxuI75v+ucGJMlwVMOhPZakGIp6JtyVNK ue3Z7p0sCveQ6IIDBCTs3f9yLpdhEDgVuEABm/HlYF8SMNZxDJzGSlnRCxJjLQYo1Ws9 WbFEiA39Xtfhb2yeC6DS+3XZxzVj2oM0mLV6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=f/aWP8lu1BTs0a9TD+8NeUKQ2TGIZ3mRZivh6AwWe03Jp7ZIWCiNxu99K5+dCYhWRU 3I1FdlgaeGC/8gQ1LEoI6s++dS4yNYAbdq9y2XtOlmnR3DrWbis/iom1SF46qc+micgB /wRmZsBR+QiVdnFao/bNIXdx4IXfXdUZ8j02c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.79.17 with SMTP id n17mr2018849qck.82.1240776702206; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:11:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F4ABB3.6000808@prgmr.com> References: <49F4ABB3.6000808@prgmr.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:11:42 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Michael David Crawford Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partitioning for multiple systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:11:44 -0000 2009/4/26 Michael David Crawford : > I have a machine I plan to use solely for testing. =A0I have FreeBSD > 8.0-CURRENT on it right now, and would like to add FreeBSD 7.2-RC2 as wel= l > as CentOS 5.3 Linux. > > Presently I have three Master Boot Record primary partitions - "slices" i= n > the FreeBSD parlance, if I understand correctly: > > - A Linux slice to be used for CentOS' /boot > - A BSD slice subdivided into partitions that hold 8.0-CURRENT > - A big FAT slice (so to speak) meant to be split up for 7.2 and CentOS > > A PC-style Master Boot Record can hold a maximum of four primary partitio= ns, > or it can hold three primaries and a single extended partition that is > subdivided into logical partitions. > > The geometries of the logical partitions aren't given in the MBR, but exi= st > as a linked list. > > I *should* be able to split that FAT slice up into a primary for 7.2 and = an > extended partition that will hold CentOS' other partitions; however: > > In Googling about this, I have read some dire warnings about FreeBSD bein= g > unable to understand logical partitions; apparently installing FreeBSD > *before* an extended partition will result in all your logicals getting > trashed. =A0One is advised to put all the FreeBSD MBR partitions *after* = the > extended partition. > > Is that the case? =A0Have you any advice for me? I haven't found that to be the case at all. I don't have as many variable as you, but on my dual boot I have ad4s1[a-g] FreeBSD ad4s2 Linux /boot ad4s3 extended ad4s5 Linux swap ad4s6 Linux / and I have tested using nothing but logical slices for Linux (including /boot) and it works fine. I would advise (roughly, you can do it as you please) adNs1 FreeBSD 7.x / /var /usr /tmp* adNs2 FreeBSD 8 / /var /usr /ports* adNs3 Fat32 /home adNs4 extended adNs5 . . . Linux /boot / & swap I would install Linux first and just use grub as the boot loader for everyone. (*whichever, but they can be mounted on both FreeBSDs, don't forget to symlink /usr/ports) > > One more thing: if it's possible, I'd like for the /home directory to be > shared between both of my FreeBSD installations. =A0In a normal installat= ion, > there is a real /usr/home directory, with /home being a symbolic link. I would mount a Fat32 partition for /home and use it for all 3 OSes. And symlink /usr/home to /home. > > If I'm running FreeBSD out of one MBR partition (or slice), can I mount a > directory that's in a different one? Yes. --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 20:18:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D619E106566B for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:18:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1C98FC0C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:18:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1477362qwe.7 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:18:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZW+01c2qdZDmTZ2kVT+gpoZ4XPrcrkdAx1jgIwkDvl0=; b=Y6qGgj/k+iShwsYCmYR/ulsht9EuZV1vheyZxvGVPPHaCC4YBMcBCpK4fhrAKwixzL JeeOjIurqIicDsmvIvJKG80WJYJ+QZNqiEEQQn5zdEHo/N1UrBvYUtm+QTZfzTxpSltc vYWgXky5CJo1JpZ/2w0e9tQJEhgQ/NMaNinAo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WO3cmcl+jli87volSYfjFRClB/Z2KYI07J7nlvZ9hJbigVZYpFl48sQgivpF5Re7jP bCnZj9MjPqfvbbePOdw/u5CxcfKhwFwWOp7asevIJcUAqVdBcEBDDBZF5qtd4SAE8Os+ EsFgnb51/K2BP8fl4RxL009QUXvleoI/VUevk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.79.17 with SMTP id n17mr2019558qck.82.1240777082959; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:18:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1240693918.1039.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1240693918.1039.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:18:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Christopher Chambers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X and optimizing Kernel Resources X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:18:04 -0000 2009/4/25 Christopher Chambers : > Hi, > > Is there a guide that talks about how to optimize the kernel memory > resources (kern.ipc.shmmax, etc)? > Like man 7 tuning? -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 21:45:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A78106566B for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4F48FC13 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so4181442qyk.3 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:45:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=U2FLQqwd8Iu59AkmM42E+CrKOu6ibtcvT+ugZuAi+0k=; b=AlO3n/NYXWP1xjDrXCNgaRjRk4F457uqSYpLZUT6PASzb/JpHKKnG5us7uRCGlnab+ KfLeFBjeA0cM2Ia4vt7CLRbrQPQvnGY+IH8PibmmoXu/bf2rxiavD9pn7KoaM4DC1SUx BKojPJoOI/9MXwd3coFCAsu1aoJXnV2oQS3hk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=MNRFa/LWaqXHuXVQTBaBKjFl1q8Jncsdfj3/Kb9h4vq8wzKQow0jygMHtlaryUQYKn xO8ltwdRYb7sT73i17zRN1E7/JL98CJU8QePMpVE+gijf72w1eQgsFMZJmMlB01v0OIi VkujbZlHEYHMEg7zMJmB4NOOUdahIV7KOdP80= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.45.131 with SMTP id e3mr8657625vcf.89.1240782348149; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:45:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F4ABB3.6000808@prgmr.com> References: <49F4ABB3.6000808@prgmr.com> From: Tim Judd Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:45:33 -0600 Message-ID: To: Michael David Crawford Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partitioning for multiple systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:45:51 -0000 On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Michael David Crawford wrote: > I have a machine I plan to use solely for testing. I have FreeBSD > 8.0-CURRENT on it right now, and would like to add FreeBSD 7.2-RC2 as well > as CentOS 5.3 Linux. > > Presently I have three Master Boot Record primary partitions - "slices" in > the FreeBSD parlance, if I understand correctly: > > - A Linux slice to be used for CentOS' /boot > - A BSD slice subdivided into partitions that hold 8.0-CURRENT > - A big FAT slice (so to speak) meant to be split up for 7.2 and CentOS > > A PC-style Master Boot Record can hold a maximum of four primary > partitions, or it can hold three primaries and a single extended partition > that is subdivided into logical partitions. > FreeBSD's standard bootloader (not boot0) will only boot off the first 0xA5/dec.165 partition it finds. I've never tried multibooting with boot0. I don't recall FreeBSD supporting extended partitions... at all The 4-entry MBR will be the problem GPT (GEOM Partition Table) bumps that limit up to like 127 entries. you'd have to use an external non-native (terms of boot0 versus 'standard') boot loader to start working. You might utilize a 5.25" HDD enclosure as a solution to run multiple OSs on a box. The enclosures are pretty inexpensive and I have enjoyed working them that way. > The geometries of the logical partitions aren't given in the MBR, but exist > as a linked list. > > I *should* be able to split that FAT slice up into a primary for 7.2 and an > extended partition that will hold CentOS' other partitions; however: > > In Googling about this, I have read some dire warnings about FreeBSD being > unable to understand logical partitions; apparently installing FreeBSD > *before* an extended partition will result in all your logicals getting > trashed. One is advised to put all the FreeBSD MBR partitions *after* the > extended partition. > > Is that the case? Have you any advice for me? > > One more thing: if it's possible, I'd like for the /home directory to be > shared between both of my FreeBSD installations. In a normal installation, > there is a real /usr/home directory, with /home being a symbolic link. > > If I'm running FreeBSD out of one MBR partition (or slice), can I mount a > directory that's in a different one? > > Thanks for your help! > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 21:58:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83540106564A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:58:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4888FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:58:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1908348bwz.43 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:58:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KPpFb6VcpuyOkK76zlMZHxKo8/DoL+CU2tppKVEAN5g=; b=YXIutG27ey7A82C+Pth9SGoavASiaEroev+qf71Zg7l2NZxPS5QdPfQuUtaGaQochP BNmHKql5npDLKQ1EzYWv7/5sGXjPMpm1MdbL3O45LtsBtlCRicjedgmtWH5v6Ex6gCpK jkAOp6xSufP1ZgZDN3u8vH+9fwpxPRMXQEC0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qAtDc0mA6fFkcajDbC0bt5Xt9wWby9GhOkjRihvFP8/sJD6g8lZNH2oqL/XwdhcBiS UJStOITTt6OfZQTup7TZot3w32DkPJ0jC1GB8PWm7rV38MjUhZuNgJ3DpF7miDpHupAt NsOptkTMyP+EQe4PNtxR02hfhbJLBWP/5nLGM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.155.13 with SMTP id g13mr242316hbc.7.1240783091487; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:58:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F49FFF.1080708@rawbw.com> References: <49F49FFF.1080708@rawbw.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:58:11 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750904261458i17ad3156k7b7e0ecf7a77b266@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: yuri@rawbw.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is 'kldunload msdosfs_iconv' supposed to be safe? It hangs the system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:58:13 -0000 On 4/26/09, Yuri wrote: > I've compiled kernel without msdosfs. > When I mount some FAT system msdosfs.ko,msdosfs_iconv.ko,libiconv.ko are > being loaded. > When I unmount this FAT all those .ko modules stay. > 'kldunload msdosfs' unloads it ok. > But 'kldunload msdosfs_iconv' hangs OS immediately making it unusable. > > My guess is that there are some bugs in some of those modules. > Should I file a PR for this? This have been fixed at least in CURRENT. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 22:34:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416A5106564A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:34:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jorg_andersson@lavabit.com) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81138FC17 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:34:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jorg_andersson@lavabit.com) Received: from c83-251-40-20.bredband.comhem.se ([83.251.40.20]:36050 helo=localhost) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LyChD-0005uU-8M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:19:38 +0200 Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:21:14 -0700 From: Jorg Andersson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090427002114.GA21041@rei> References: <49F4ABB3.6000808@prgmr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.251.40.20 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1LyChD-0005uU-8M. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1LyChD-0005uU-8M 95bd0447f380721d07721bde63e1f4c8 Subject: Re: Partitioning for multiple systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:34:45 -0000 On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 03:45:33PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > I don't recall FreeBSD supporting extended partitions... at all I remember reading they aren't in /dev/ but still is mountable. Is this still the case? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 26 23:54:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D98A106566C for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026D68FC14 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10100EB5E4B; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:54:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C474509B; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:54:46 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id esj65WIo15O2; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:54:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl28-228.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.155.228]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6F04503F; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:54:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3QNsj1N028928; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:54:45 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3QNshoi028927; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:54:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Polytropon References: <20090426001855.GA89151@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <87zle3mii0.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:54:43 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:44:10 +0200") Message-ID: <87ab63j7i4.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , Tim Judd Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:54:48 -0000 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:44:10 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 20:28:55 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> I think this is a reasonable approach to the problem of which >> installation mode to launch. The default is `user friendly', [...] > > No, the default is GUI. That's a big difference because it entirely > depends on the user. Imagine a bline user. Is GUI user friendly for > him? No, because he has zero output on his Braille line. The installer > does something and he doesn't even notice. [...] > You have 30 seconds to make a selection. If no selection > is made, the text mode installer (fail-safe mode) will > be launched. This is a reasonable choice too. I wasn't very clear but I tend to favor text mode installations. This is also why I used quotes around `user friendly'. My main point was that if there *is* a GUI installer, it should only _one_ of the options, and text-mode installation should remain with us for all users who want it (including me). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 00:17:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E537F1065677 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562F18FC08 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5827AEB5EDC; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:17:07 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECD74509B; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:17:07 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MVr6kLOcVR1J; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:17:07 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl28-228.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.155.228]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7785C4503F; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:00:08 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3R007js028978; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:00:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3R007lc028977; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:00:07 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk References: <20090426001855.GA89151@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <87zle3mii0.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:00:07 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Mehmet Erol Sanliturk's message of "Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:52:56 -0400") Message-ID: <87y6tnhsoo.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Tim Judd , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:17:09 -0000 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:52:56 -0400, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > Last week I have installed Solaris 10 ( 2008-10 ) on a PC ( x86 ) > having an Intel main board . It did not recognize Philips 220WS LCD ( > 1680 x 1050 ) monitor and selected itself a text-mode install and also > booted in text mode. > > I moved its hard disk to a PC with an Asus main board having an > attached CRT Philips 109B6 ( maximum resolution : 1920 x 1440 ) > monitor . Since boards were different , Solaris 10 could not boot . I > started an upgrade installation . During that time it become necessary > to leave PC for a while assuming that installation will wait . With > its count down and start by itself in its GUI mode . it started to > install automatically . > > At the end , the install become useless because its default detections > were not what parts were there ( I think it used previously detected > parts without checking the present parts except monitor and perhaps > some others , I do not know exactly .) . That's why there should be at least the option of a text-mode install (and it should probably be the default, as Polytropon wrote). I also hate it when an installer fails to autodetect my video adapter and ends up showing me a useless blank screen or, even worse, an equally useless 'out of range' monitor message! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 03:50:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191431065672 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282888FC1B for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:50:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 12392513 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:50:25 +0700 Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n3R3oO5g014674 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:50:24 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru using -f Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:50:24 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Message-ID: <20090427035024.GA14419@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: 6.3 -> 6.4 and freebsd-update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:50:29 -0000 Colleagues, I have updated 6.3-RELEASE to 6.4-RELEASE-p4 (actually recent RELENG_6_4) from source (make buildworld etc). However "freebsd-update cron" still insists that I should update my system: The following files will be updated as part of updating to 6.4-RELEASE-p4: /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libcrypto.so.4 /rescue/[ [dd] What gives? Can it be because its database is inherited from 6.3-RELEASE? Should I comply and run "freebsd-update install"? Or should I clean the freebsd-update database? Perhaps "rm -rf /var/db/freebsd-update/" ? Thanks in advance for any input. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 04:54:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA5A106566B for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B212F8FC16 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ppp-71-139-35-171.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [71.139.35.171]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n3R4s02d018293 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49F53A67.7060203@rawbw.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:53:59 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090424) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: firefox3 crashes after ports upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Yuri List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:54:02 -0000 Yesterday I updated ports. And now firefox3 crashes right after start. Windows firefox3 under wine also has some graphics defects, many icons are jammed. Some icons in kde4 applets are oversized. Something isn't quite right. Anyone has similar problems? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 07:29:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4292F106564A for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138FD8FC0A for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:29:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3R7Stb5001912; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:29:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id A6DCD92CFC; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:28:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E75392CF5; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:28:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:28:55 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:28:53 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EA95@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Modern FreeBSD Installer? Thread-Index: AcnGzZrE+9WuyPT2Sm2M5nF9IzyVPAAPDaiV From: "Gary Gatten" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2009 07:28:55.0314 (UTC) FILETIME=[D244FF20:01C9C709] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: tajudd@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? 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Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968588FC1C; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1LyLaj-0004HS-M4>; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:49:29 +0200 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1LyLaj-0002Xv-Kk>; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:49:29 +0200 Message-ID: <49F56337.8040900@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:48:07 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090417) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Subject: PAM/ldap_pam/NFSv4: How let users of a speicific group log into a specific box? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:49:31 -0000 Hello. I run into a specific problem and for several months of experiments I havn't found a solution, yet. This is what I wish to get and need: A simple capability of selecting users into a specific group. Members of such a group should then log into a set of specific hosts. Infrastructure is FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT/amd64 and some 7.2-STABLE boxes (acting as server) as well as OpenLDAP backend. Authentication on boxes is done via PAM/ldap_pam. But it is on FreeBSD's side a vanilla configuration, not very sophisticated. Users autheticate and authorize against an OpenLDAP server residing on another box. pam_ldap in its most recent ports-version offers, as the manpage claims, a facility enabling group logins (resides in /usr/local/etc/ldap.conf): # Group to enforce membership of pam_groupdn cn=mygroup,ou=groups,dc=foo,dc=org?sub # Group member attribute #pam_member_attribute uniqueMember pam_member_attribute memberUid Within the DIT of the OpenLDAP server ou=groups exists and contains also a group called 'mygroup' with a multi-value attribute (as required), in this case memberUid. Using pam_ldap.so as a 'required' module is not appreciated, so there seems a problem to me with the stack order - should say: I need a LDAP solution. pam_group doesn't work for me: auth required/requisite pam_group.so no_warn group=mygroup Can anybody help or do have hints? Please remember I do not belon g to the 'questions' list, so please put me into your mail-cc. Regards, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 08:33:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2360A1065679 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3D38FC25 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:33:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 12394813 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:33:21 +0700 Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n3R8XLZg021051 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:33:21 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru using -f Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:33:21 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090427083321.GA20534@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090425101042.GA48343@hyperion.scode.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090425101042.GA48343@hyperion.scode.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: Re: mergemaster -U overwriting modified files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:33:24 -0000 Peter Schuller wrote: > I recently began testing mergemaster -U since the perpetual "review > diff of file I never touched" grows annoying real quick. > > Unfortunately I recently discovered that it does not seem to do what > you might expect. For example it nuked my mailer.conf on one machine, > and my /etc/namedb/named.conf (!!!) on another machine. > > Is this a bug or intended? What is the intended functionality of -U? It may be useful, prior to running "mergemaster -U", to run mtree -eq -f /var/db/mergemaster.mtree -p / | grep changed to see what mergemaster considers changed. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 09:16:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F237106566B for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:16:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (macos.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E7A8FC13 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:16:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3R9GWur068285 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:16:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id n3R9GWp0068282 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:16:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) X-Authentication-Warning: macos.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:16:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: acroread run problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:16:35 -0000 FreeBSD7/amd64 with linux_base-fc-4_14 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) I installed acroread9-9.1.0_2 (no errors) # cd /usr/ports/print/acroread9 # make install clean OK. but at $ acroread & I get: (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (acroread:67581): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed (acroread:67581): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed (acroread:67581): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means there was an error in the creation of: '/etc/pango/pango.modules' You may be able to recreate this file by running pango-querymodules. (acroread:67581): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_engine_shape_shape: assertion `PANGO_IS_FONT (font)' failed Pango-ERROR **: file shape.c: line 75 (pango_shape): assertion failed: (glyphs->num_glyphs > 0) aborting... [1]+ Exit 1 acroread I do have: /usr/compat/linux/etc/pango drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 24 09:51 i686-redhat-linux-gnu -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 11446 Apr 24 09:50 pangox.aliases What's wrong and how to remedy ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 09:38:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEFD106564A for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B388FC15 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:38:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1649286qwe.7 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:38:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PqYSBLVm53Q84FoyCcRQO/+mf1CAzULLGT97tToTnMA=; b=ocTuOwU2zUdwrG4mqyBIsWhZPg43hvHmqNJyX2Rc2D8nmqVosPEJJbP+DyvxGR2y6+ t9Z35HjMvZeJrR4xTbgve20JKz+KNxPV9mZttGCAlCmk9dxl3w155ap2Eu5RLoqQWLDR zF4yt/OBcdkyksYFyU0tSLQUi7OThHVc3fehA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ITXFIo0NWZ5AY3XQinUaeoILCfMP0333OzvvdRsJssNsmH6oONNAdztFjRB0wVSTay qrBWoniCdJR/qS/a2AAlGnkAebZw15GCwyNLN2HkuquFaDndujfoVnpRkwIPthMNFE96 5XjwozBMMmpCFfJHseQfBDkcWJuSOYMGs6HW4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.79.2 with SMTP id n2mr2238334qck.8.1240825134524; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:38:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090427002114.GA21041@rei> References: <49F4ABB3.6000808@prgmr.com> <20090427002114.GA21041@rei> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:38:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Jorg Andersson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partitioning for multiple systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:38:55 -0000 2009/4/26 Jorg Andersson : > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 03:45:33PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: >> I don't recall FreeBSD supporting extended partitions... at all > > I remember reading they aren't in /dev/ but still is mountable. Is this > still the case? They show up just fine here (8-current), and I am fairly sure they were visible in /dev when I was running 7.x The "big deal" is that you can't (easily) install FreeBSD on a logical slice. http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3194 -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 10:14:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5B31065670 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.catrysse@proximedia.be) Received: from mail.proxirepair.be (mail.proxirepair.be [194.88.104.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F92D8FC18 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.catrysse@proximedia.be) Received: from 213-84-208-229.adsl.xs4all.nl ([213.84.208.229] helo=TEC22) by mail.proxirepair.be with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LyNyN-000OSy-Jd; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:22:06 +0200 From: "Jan Catrysse" To: References: <00cf01c9c501$5113a190$f33ae4b0$@catrysse@proximedia.be> In-Reply-To: <00cf01c9c501$5113a190$f33ae4b0$@catrysse@proximedia.be> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:14:18 +0200 Organization: Proximedia Message-ID: <009d01c9c720$eefd0510$ccf70f30$@Catrysse@proximedia.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcnFAVBSVsUVJJVZQH2yxrHr6vxM3gAu05ZA Content-Language: nl-be Cc: ivoras@freebsd.org Subject: RE: NFS slow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:14:38 -0000 >Jan Catrysse wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I am having some problems with NFS and slow performance. >> This is the scenario: >> >> 2x FreeBSD 7.1. (Raid storage server, MP, the works) >> >> GB Lan interface between them. >> >> When I transfer 1 big file the speed is never higher than 10MB/s with a peak >> to 14MB/s. >> >> When I transfer multiple files at the same time speed is about 10MB/s per >> thread. >> Disk speed > 100MB/s >> >> Network speed using samba > 60MB/s (limited by clients disk speed) >> >> Tried enabling NFSlockd, NFSstatd but that changes nothing. >> >> Any help or hunch would be greatly appreciated. > >Here are some ideas for testing: > >* Any firewall in between them? Do you have network errors? >* Any other network problems, like DNS lookup failures? (not that it >should matter for sustained tranfers but still...) >* Are you using TCP or UDP for NFS? TCP should be better in all cases. >* Have you monitored the system with "top"? Try hitting "S" and "H" in >top while transfering files, see if anything looks suspicious. >* Run "iostat 1", check tps and KB/t. >* What file system are you using? Hello Ivoras, NFS TCP did the trick. I tried it already but I didn't properly dismount the volumes before remounting them on TCP. I did a mount -u -a instead. Using netstat it became clear NFS was still using UDP. A umount and mount -a did the trick! Thnx! Jan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 12:06:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7611065679 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4C98FC17 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so2170283bwz.43 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:06:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=xQdAOBOzikfSNBpiA2tNqRrjm8BCxNOl7qhyg0yGd3I=; b=ubP1p9jbnwsQRlDi9Z/tWlaGvNlCy6j0OsOCSTtQwEutosqRBkJXN0DGsQuHTIQ9M1 NEu9OGGH2I8yxy42xZYBtAx8pOkYrJLJomb/e10QtbjC1z+4StOMfMG+51L9qcJrIEDd 8y+8YjG2q8wvPryVKKH4SxQJABHxz6KRsNFVU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=M0lCWFyQl9f7O0EiNO1pF/CDjSf4OCGk8K4oaBVlTkpUISihxV3+JcUBVcTb1AvJhf GB5MkCAWjcig7DpqAS7wn2s+RKEKGj17X9uVehJOlsAjEUGhEcUMCs4aBw/ayN1FqRMX WyX4C0Xr+4UuBA1RBml5pZGtpkuRKzyc6bCsQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.105.139 with SMTP id t11mr1664245fao.11.1240832307374; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:38:27 +0300 Message-ID: <7dc029620904270438v61ca979am1fea03d8bab66af7@mail.gmail.com> From: Mike Barnard To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSd amd64 bit kernel conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:06:40 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to get myself around 64 bit custom kernel configuration for FreeBSD on Intel Xeon L5430. Does any one know what cpu option one should use for this? From my reading, it seems HAMMER is purely for amd64 architectures. What is the Intel architecture option. Regards, Mike -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 12:13:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EE01065670 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neo@gothic-chat.de) Received: from gothnet.eu (srv1.gothnet.eu [83.133.111.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAF98FC15 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:13:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neo@gothic-chat.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothnet.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7192533CB0; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:13:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gothnet.eu Received: from gothnet.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gothnet.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uq818GTYQMsE; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:13:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.0.10] (unknown [10.10.0.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: neo) by gothnet.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A422D33C67; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:13:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49F5A149.2060400@gothic-chat.de> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:12:57 +0200 From: "Neo [GC]" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Barnard References: <7dc029620904270438v61ca979am1fea03d8bab66af7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7dc029620904270438v61ca979am1fea03d8bab66af7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSd amd64 bit kernel conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:13:54 -0000 HAMMER is the right one for Intel CPUs with EMT64 for running FreeBSD in 64bit mode. In /etc/make.conf chose "nocona" in your CPUTYPE Regards, Neo [GC] Mike Barnard schrieb: > Hi, > > I'm trying to get myself around 64 bit custom kernel configuration for > FreeBSD on Intel Xeon L5430. > > Does any one know what cpu option one should use for this? From my reading, > it seems HAMMER is purely for amd64 architectures. What is the Intel > architecture option. > > Regards, > > Mike > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 12:15:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC57106567E; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ottk@zzz.ee) Received: from zzz.ee (kalah.zzz.ee [194.204.30.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057088FC24; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:15:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ottk@zzz.ee) Received: from zzz.ee (localhost.zzz.ee [127.0.0.1]) by zzz.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B49FD7A0; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:15:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: by zzz.ee (Postfix, from userid 3019) id 811F4FD791; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:15:21 +0300 (EEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin on spamassassin.zzz.ee X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Guessed-Language: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50 X-Spam-Checker-URL: http://info.zzz.ee Received: from ott.sise (adsl215.uninet.ee [194.204.62.215]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zzz.ee (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CDECFD6D1; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:15:17 +0300 (EEST) From: Ott =?iso-8859-1?q?K=F6stner?= To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:15:16 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49F1E47F.3060700@zzz.ee> <3a142e750904250157o7ae382f0i8c1dbffb25fe05c2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750904250157o7ae382f0i8c1dbffb25fe05c2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904271515.16452.ottk@zzz.ee> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @zzz.ee Cc: ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X-Org problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:15:25 -0000 On Saturday 25 April 2009 11:57:38 am Paul B. Mahol wrote: > On 4/24/09, Ott Koestner wrote: > > Neal Hogan wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Ott Koestner wrote: > >> > >>> Dear list, > >>> > >>> After upgrading Xorg from ports to the latest version > >>> xorg-server-1.6.0,1 > >>> xorg-7.4_1 > >>> > >>> I am experiencing very unpleasant phenomenon, Xorg randomly exiting w= ith > >>> message: > >>> > >>> Apr 24 15:16:16 ott kernel: pid 7445 (Xorg), uid 0: exited on signal 6 > >>> Apr 24 15:16:16 ott kdm-bin[1020]: X server for display :0 terminated > >>> unexpectedly > >>> > >>> Also, there is a strange behavior with dual-head mode -- when moving > >>> cursor from one screen to another, the little white arrow remains on = the > >>> other screen. > >>> > >>> Please help! What might it be? Recompiled probably everything related= to > >>> Xorg. Using Nvidia driver version > >>> nvidia-driver-96.43.11 > >>> > >> > >> I'm no expert, but to help those that are, I suggest that you post the > >> contents of your /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log (perhaps a dmesg, too). > >> > >> > > After the crash Xorg is instantly restarted. Probably there is no reason > > to copy the whole log here. Everything looks normal for some time and > > then it restarts just at a random moment. No reason to blame hardware. > > It was stable before pre-previous Xorg server update (over 100 days upt= ime). > > > > Ill-effects started after I upgraded to xorg-server-1.5.3. Mouse buttons > > started to freeze randomly. That is why I chose to upgrade to > > xorg-server-1.6.0. > > Xorg.0.log.old ends like this: > > ... =2E.. > > > > Fatal server error: > > Caught signal 11. Server aborting > > > > > > Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support > > at http://wiki.x.org > > for help. > > Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional > > information. > > pid 7797 (Xorg), uid 0: exited on signal 6 > > pid 47182 (PBReg), uid 1001: exited on signal 10 > > pid 47199 (NetworkTray), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 > > pid 47200 (NetworkTray), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 > > > > > > > >> > >>> With best regards, > >>> Ott Koestner > >>> > I saw on svn-head that signal 6 crash is caused by FreeBSD > malloc/libc, and is fixed on CURRENT but that may not be related to > your problem. =20 Now I have isolated the problem with x.org but still not been able to find = a solution. X crash is not random, but keyboard associated and appears 100% when pressi= ng any key on keyboard and and letting it auto-repeat. Meanwhile, updated t= he whole system (kernel and world) to 7.2-PRERELEASE. Recompiled xf86-input= =2Dkeyboard and xorg-server, but nothing helps in this case. :( With best regards, Ott K=F6stner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 12:20:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B281065670 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BCC8FC1A for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so2177651bwz.43 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:20:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=e2W8NJx/sg13lesXlCGMGaAqVcG5U3t/kV/vxJl4nE8=; b=ibQ3PeICeJ6qNRbKn4mlT+BxzZoJtQ19N35N22zGz4hcrOHg8JZ2DuGFxilnOq03Zp Q5HC9I5oKtcc3/g+0OdKq5TLdWQke8tU3mejZ6YbhwaDqqwDengdR6XSgHxHSLkbkg1f W7Rtl1kfVEFWAroRvuk5Y2+eOVs8wZ99s8n5I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=EfvM7yg+Qj+b3oxQjSqOq++X7mPYgt/KA4WXwIPlKrCVPY0XFrNdfeQ16reyMV2fN5 FtctYvMU2sDmuzw/12Ma8PJvHVHpANRdWj5njCMe49rMkq7Cq01ZzWlHQ5uQoLgUDZ+a OqUD3nZmCMBW/Qg0dzR7H5FerfSy03Qlyf0t4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.135 with SMTP id b7mr1746379fap.30.1240834804491; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:20:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F5A149.2060400@gothic-chat.de> References: <7dc029620904270438v61ca979am1fea03d8bab66af7@mail.gmail.com> <49F5A149.2060400@gothic-chat.de> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:20:04 +0300 Message-ID: <7dc029620904270520u60ffda4bsd59c923d98c78bc0@mail.gmail.com> From: Mike Barnard To: "Neo [GC]" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSd amd64 bit kernel conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:20:06 -0000 Thanks Neo, I will post back if anything bits my fingers :-) Regards, Mike On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Neo [GC] wrote: > HAMMER is the right one for Intel CPUs with EMT64 for running FreeBSD in > 64bit mode. > > In /etc/make.conf chose "nocona" in your CPUTYPE > > > Regards, > Neo [GC] > > Mike Barnard schrieb: > > Hi, >> >> I'm trying to get myself around 64 bit custom kernel configuration for >> FreeBSD on Intel Xeon L5430. >> >> Does any one know what cpu option one should use for this? From my >> reading, >> it seems HAMMER is purely for amd64 architectures. What is the Intel >> architecture option. >> >> Regards, >> >> Mike >> >> >> > -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 13:37:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E1D106566B for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from exprod7og123.obsmtp.com (exprod7og123.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F18A8FC1D for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from source ([209.85.146.180]) by exprod7ob123.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSfW1Ih8IjPszOEoerNAVklEg3iO/gRhf@postini.com; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:37:39 PDT Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j5so910841wah.2 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.133.1 with SMTP id g1mr2543801wad.21.1240839458664; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([76.231.178.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m29sm14702289poh.25.2009.04.27.06.37.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:37:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Steele To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <2732371.101240839456548.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> In-Reply-To: <18933005.81240838051541.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: #freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Unexpected gmirror behavior: Is this a bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:37:39 -0000 > i think it's a bug but only happens with such massive mirror. very few >people do more than 2-way mirrors that's probably it wasn't catched. > >please do report the bug - it's critical. In fact I just confirmed that if we reduce our mirror to just two members the problem does not occur. The returning member, even if it is the first drive, is always re-synced with the data from the other drive and no data is lost. And yes, it's definitely a critical bug. I'm filing a bug report now, but we may have to fix this in-house before we can release our product with this problem. There is too great a risk for customers to lose data. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 13:40:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74901065675 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3E78FC19 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n3RDddvV025048; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:39:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n3RDdclf025047; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:39:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:39:38 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Gary Gatten Message-ID: <20090427133937.GA24963@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EA95@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EA95@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr, tajudd@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:40:04 -0000 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 02:28:53AM -0500, Gary Gatten wrote: > I'm trying to ignore this thread, but as an infrequent installer, I think it would be nice for those of us with limited experience to have a context sensitive help to explain the various install options, such as: what it is/does, how much disk space, how many/which dependancies, estimated install time, etc. I don't care if its TUI or GUI - just something to help me make the various selections at install time. With my luck such a thing is already there and I just don't know about it, but thought I'd throw it out. I would go for this. I have done hundreds of installations and still find times that I want more information in the middle of things. That is especially true if I try to add some packages at install time. But, I agree that we must not give up on a 'text based' installer that is the most generally usable, even if some other options might be made available. The text based installer could also be massaged a bit to make it a little easier to understand as well, without losing its functionality. Read Jordan Hubbard's white paper whose URL was posted a few days ago. It clarifies things a lot. http://people.freebsd.org/~jkh/package-and-install.txt Probably even more could be said, but that gives an essential frame of reference. ////jerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > Cc: Tim Judd ; FreeBSD Questions Mailing List > Sent: Sun Apr 26 19:00:07 2009 > Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? > > On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:52:56 -0400, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > Last week I have installed Solaris 10 ( 2008-10 ) on a PC ( x86 ) > > having an Intel main board . It did not recognize Philips 220WS LCD ( > > 1680 x 1050 ) monitor and selected itself a text-mode install and also > > booted in text mode. > > > > I moved its hard disk to a PC with an Asus main board having an > > attached CRT Philips 109B6 ( maximum resolution : 1920 x 1440 ) > > monitor . Since boards were different , Solaris 10 could not boot . I > > started an upgrade installation . During that time it become necessary > > to leave PC for a while assuming that installation will wait . With > > its count down and start by itself in its GUI mode . it started to > > install automatically . > > > > At the end , the install become useless because its default detections > > were not what parts were there ( I think it used previously detected > > parts without checking the present parts except monitor and perhaps > > some others , I do not know exactly .) . > > That's why there should be at least the option of a text-mode install > (and it should probably be the default, as Polytropon wrote). I also > hate it when an installer fails to autodetect my video adapter and ends > up showing me a useless blank screen or, even worse, an equally useless > 'out of range' monitor message! > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > >
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I have FreeBSD > 8.0-CURRENT on it right now, and would like to add FreeBSD 7.2-RC2 as > well as CentOS 5.3 Linux. > > Presently I have three Master Boot Record primary partitions - "slices" > in the FreeBSD parlance, if I understand correctly: > > - A Linux slice to be used for CentOS' /boot > - A BSD slice subdivided into partitions that hold 8.0-CURRENT > - A big FAT slice (so to speak) meant to be split up for 7.2 and CentOS > > A PC-style Master Boot Record can hold a maximum of four primary > partitions, or it can hold three primaries and a single extended > partition that is subdivided into logical partitions. > > The geometries of the logical partitions aren't given in the MBR, but > exist as a linked list. > > I *should* be able to split that FAT slice up into a primary for 7.2 and > an extended partition that will hold CentOS' other partitions; however: > > In Googling about this, I have read some dire warnings about FreeBSD > being unable to understand logical partitions; apparently installing > FreeBSD *before* an extended partition will result in all your logicals > getting trashed. One is advised to put all the FreeBSD MBR partitions > *after* the extended partition. > > Is that the case? Have you any advice for me? FreeBSD is not happy with MS 'extended partitions'. But, I don't really see your problem. You are not using Microsloth for anything. Create your Lunix slice first, then one for FreeBSD 7.2 and finally one for FreeBSD 8.0. You still logically have one left for something but it doesn't seem to be needed and neither does a 'logical partition'. Note that FreeBSD will not run from the FAT slice as far as I know. FreeBSD might be able to mount the CENTOS slice stuff if you use the right type of mount. I don't know about mounting Lunix from FreeBSD. But, you can't do it the other way (eg mount a FreeBSD type filesystem from Lunix - though maybe, I have never tried it) > One more thing: if it's possible, I'd like for the /home directory to be > shared between both of my FreeBSD installations. In a normal > installation, there is a real /usr/home directory, with /home being a > symbolic link. > > If I'm running FreeBSD out of one MBR partition (or slice), can I mount > a directory that's in a different one? MBR has nothing to do with the filesystem type. MBR is just a [usually] one block/sector of code that makes a few choices and then reads in a subsequent, OS-specific block of code to begin the actual boot process. MS MBRs are not very friendly. The FreeBSD MBR will boot any OS that follows the official standard for boot code location. Linux wants you to use some fancier, non-standard (but by now, pretty much usable everywhere) MBRs such as Grub. They all do essentially the same thing - ask you which block you want to boot and then go load it in and transfer over control to it. Generally they don't care what is in the block but MS still goes out of its way to pretend that the rest of the world does not exist so it won't play with others, though I have heard rumors that the newest stuff takes a somewhat broader outlook. >From FreeBSD you can mount other types of filesystems such as MS by using the correct mount types. For example, if you want to mount an MS FAT or FAT32, you use an 'msdosfs' type in your fstab file or mount_msdosfs(8) utility to do the mount. Do some studying to see if you can mount any Lunxi type filesystem from FreeBSD. When you create a new __non-root__ account, you can put the home directory anywhere the system can reliably read and write. DO NOT put the home directory for a root account outside of the root (/) filesystem. Since both FreeBSD 7.xx and 8.xx are going to be UFS type file systems, you could put them both in your /etc/fstab for each and pick a single partition for (non root) home directories. I don't know if that is a good idea, but it should work OK. ////jerry > > Thanks for your help! > > Mike > -- > Michael David Crawford > mdc@prgmr.com > > prgmr.com - We Don't Assume You Are Stupid. > > Xen-Powered Virtual Private Servers: http://prgmr.com/xen > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 15:23:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01E4106566B for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6906F8FC16 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [172.17.2.19] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n3RFNXCx098574; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:23:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:23:32 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200904240535.37460.lists@jnielsen.net> <874owc8bfx.fsf@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <874owc8bfx.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904271123.32647.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS history access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:23:34 -0000 On Saturday 25 April 2009 09:12:50 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:35:34 -0400, John Nielsen wrote: > > I'm working on a machine learning project and I'd like to use the > > FreeBSD src CVS commit history as a datasource. Is there a > > resource-friendly way for me to download some or all of it? Format > > isn't too big an issue. > > > > I tried a few "cvs history" commands against the anoncvs servers but > > get this: cvs [history aborted]: cannot open history file: > > /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/history: No such file or directory > > Do you really want just the `CVSROOT/history' file? We allow mirroring > of the entire repository, which you can then use to extract any sort of > historical commit data. (Well, _almost_ anything. Some things like > repo-copies and renames of raw repository files have been done without > any sort of record, so it may be impossible to recover *those* > particular bits.) I'm basically looking for a list of all commits over the past N (>2) years with committer, timestamp, affected file(s) and/or subsystems and possibly diff size information, etc. I don't know anything about the "history" file in particular other than that's what cvs complained about when I tried the "cvs history" commands against anoncvs. It looks like the /pub/FreeBSD/development/FreeBSD-CVS/src ftp path may have what I'm looking for (though it may be scattered through the individual files). I'll probably (try to) set up a local CVS repo and source it from there and see where that gets me. My CVS-fu is weak so I'm still open to pointers. > We also have a Subversion repository now, that you can use to grab > commit information. It takes slightly more disk space than the CVS > repository, but subversion can export XML formatted commit logs, which > may be slightly more useful if you plan to automate parts of the > parsing and info-gathering. Yes, I'll definitely be automating the parsing, etc. Is it safe to assume that the cvs2svn migration went successfully? XML logs do sound appealing and aggregated (same time, multiple files) commits would be more useful than per-file. Can I just check everything out from svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/? Thanks! JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 15:58:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE72106566B for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:58:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alligator424@free.fr) Received: from smtpfb1-g21.free.fr (smtpfb1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BBF8FC29 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alligator424@free.fr) Received: from wmproxy1-g27.free.fr (wmproxy1-g27.free.fr [212.27.42.91]) by smtpfb1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F43177DED7 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:42:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wmproxy1-g27.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wmproxy1-g27.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A0A635F5 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:42:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from UNKNOWN (imp2-g19.priv.proxad.net [172.20.243.132]) by wmproxy1-g27.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF4B63405 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:42:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: by UNKNOWN (Postfix, from userid 0) id 2B4195863CAFE; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:42:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ([91.90.98.82]) by imp.free.fr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:42:15 +0200 Message-ID: <1240846935.49f5d2572821d@imp.free.fr> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:42:15 +0200 From: alligator424@free.fr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.8 X-Originating-IP: 91.90.98.82 Subject: [compiling & installing FreeBSD] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:58:35 -0000 dear freeBSD's gurus, question is: does "make installworld " do any backup of the files it touch? is any way to failback that "installworld"? I think I have read that "make installkernel" do a backup of the kernel in kernel.old but for the world I would like to know. Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 16:04:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7B61065675 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482F38FC0A for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [172.17.2.19] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n3RG3wCx005819; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:03:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:03:57 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <1240846935.49f5d2572821d@imp.free.fr> In-Reply-To: <1240846935.49f5d2572821d@imp.free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904271203.57478.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: alligator424@free.fr Subject: Re: [compiling & installing FreeBSD] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:04:00 -0000 On Monday 27 April 2009 11:42:15 am alligator424@free.fr wrote: > does "make installworld " do any backup of the files it touch? is any > way to failback that "installworld"? No. Restore from (your own) backups, installation media, or rebuild the world you need from appropriately-dated sources. > I think I have read that "make installkernel" do a backup of the kernel > in kernel.old but for the world I would like to know. That is correct, but it is only the kernel (and modules) that are backed up this way. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 16:13:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CC110656E5 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068128FC26 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2009 12:13:06 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id PTX84108; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:12:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2009 12:12:37 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18933.55668.674954.983673@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:12:36 -0400 To: alligator424@free.fr In-Reply-To: <1240846935.49f5d2572821d@imp.free.fr> References: <1240846935.49f5d2572821d@imp.free.fr> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [compiling & installing FreeBSD] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:13:09 -0000 alligator424@free.fr writes: > does "make installworld " do any backup of the files it touch? is > any way to failback that "installworld"? Have you read the section of the handbook which explains the accepted procedure for updating the system? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 16:18:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AD81065678 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from ghirai.com (ghirai.com [195.74.52.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B938FC1D for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:18:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ghirai.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2E57416F39 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:18:10 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:18:24 +0300 From: Ghirai To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090427191824.25e415e4.ghirai@ghirai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: quick vfs tuning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:18:25 -0000 Hi, I'm running a RAID1 setup with gmirror and geli (AES-128) on top of that. While searching for ways to improve read performance, i found some posts (on kerneltrap i think) about vfs.max_read. The author suggested that increasing the default value of 8 to 16 resulted in increased read speed, and that increasing it further resulted in no noticeable performance gain. Results are below. Starting with vfs.read_max=32: triton# dd if=a.iso of=/dev/null bs=3M 1129+1 records in 1129+1 records out 3554287616 bytes transferred in 176.825898 secs (20100492 bytes/sec) triton# sysctl vfs.read_max=64 vfs.read_max: 32 -> 64 triton# dd if=a.iso of=/dev/null bs=3M 1129+1 records in 1129+1 records out 3554287616 bytes transferred in 162.943189 secs (21813048 bytes/sec) triton# sysctl vfs.read_max=128 vfs.read_max: 64 -> 128 triton# dd if=a.iso of=/dev/null bs=3M 1129+1 records in 1129+1 records out 3554287616 bytes transferred in 149.313994 secs (23804116 bytes/sec) triton# sysctl vfs.read_max=256 vfs.read_max: 128 -> 256 triton# dd if=a.iso of=/dev/null bs=3M 1129+1 records in 1129+1 records out 3554287616 bytes transferred in 150.466241 secs (23621828 bytes/sec) Here is seems to have hit a wall. Going a bit down to 192 results in almost exactly the same numbers, so the best value seems to be 128. As i read, vfs.read_max means 'cluster read-ahead max block count'. Does it read ahead the stuff into some memory? If so, can that memory size be increased via sysctl? Does the improvement in performance have to do with my particular setup (gmirror+geli)? I thought i'd share the results and maybe get a discussion going in this direction. Test was done on a pair of SATA300 HDs spinning at 7200rmp (which are seen as SATA150 by the OS for some reason; i couldn't fix it from the BIOS, so it must be the mobo), and 7.1-RELEASE, i386. -- Regards, Ghirai. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 16:19:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49EB1065672 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from billsomerson@gmail.com) Received: from po-out-1718.google.com (po-out-1718.google.com [72.14.252.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2538FC18 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from billsomerson@gmail.com) Received: by po-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id y22so7367pof.3 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:19:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=oTsNWI05aZ9icE1SRnNxvgNnHdJ6Q5EB9INmADZPDYE=; b=vCXjr11xvCotkzY4v7UAIBW6Ixcj4DYJ0leQrQSgDkKkHWp6qjxPxojYKTSxj07+Di AEg8q5wulPCCJP4pTCUQqmUe3IJ3OoFRgZh3D++ktgDhspUdXS/S0vrqyUHm9sjpkaBB K/1+Ayv9UDAkbj36vmLXZSuR4mSmBksoQUyhs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=FHBeC5SK5RGMCwK/OzETqSyhCdrzFvERQSp1HHzqUKzUKpBTrkLaGf2aUMTtF9PoBd 4Ahm+aFnDKAtNMhGMNg5DGNhGrrILdA2A6BM9FcGERAgsqk+J0e2U84fngPn5NrvEP3J nCWjRoTs+3lMIiMiuAUyJ6O6TMsMylTDTM+HU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.177.13 with SMTP id z13mr1172744wfe.196.1240848340401; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:05:40 -0400 Message-ID: From: Bill Somerson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Apache won't start - undefined symbol "libintl_bindtextdomain" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:19:46 -0000 Hi, I've installed Apache 2.2, but when I try to start it, I get the following error: httpd: Syntax error on line 105 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_dnssd.so into server: /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3: Undefined symbol "libintl_bindtextdomain" I don't know what "libintl" is (or "libavahi" or "mod_dnssd.so", for that matter), but my /usr/local/lib does contain a bunch of "libintl" files: libintl.a libintl.la libintl.so libintl.so.8 I have also installed Subversion, and asked it to use Apache, so I assume that affected my Apache config. I have not made any manual modifications to httpd.conf. I am running 7.0 Release, and I have the following versions of various things that may be related (all of them up to date as of today, as are all my other packages): apache-2.2.11_4 avahi-app-0.6.25 avahi-gtk-0.6.25 subversion-1.6.0_2 Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 16:28:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7611065689 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2937E8FC2C for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so28560qyk.3 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:28:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bn+hlHJFCSZP5QvTqjq61xYJvfGoYivonpirODE92VA=; b=rTosRlzTczyJL2ZTINXtvKVRtlPDGoofGpIkjfAdZU3YBresM1zOUAOHkrYdRp/N8T 9V2/uQ3SBodtKeeNvVD7hfp0HljFOl1Lr0zCYzRIRx4e4xpihjuwYGCiTHWRWem2auud Oq/XBoYbUDM/IPHHkczSTe8MdvhAH24a6Mcjo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=omwxpZPkMFTFaSPARvEMM1t9xZBUM04mSNgjcljpGby+ZHp/vft1MeUm1Uz97dqjau o5F4ndHtHJCAwMnvlUePw/S/m/wNCx1wpWkhjMlzpvZlaanHHcDHE/RZC7FSM1Co8KPr ePcZxizN97NnUIrN/qQHYRSKt/r4C75IHRuxE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.94.129 with SMTP id z1mr2613490qcm.22.1240849696500; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:28:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:28:01 -0400 Message-ID: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:28:18 -0000 Hello all, I'm setting up a firewall and would like to monitor certain system parameters like network, cpu, and memory usage. SNMP is an obvious choice to do the monitoring and I'm planning to set up rrdtool to generate graphs of captured data. The question is what SNMP agent to use. I found net-snmp and bsnmpd (which is included in the base system). Has anyone here used both implementations, and if so, what are the basic differences? Thanks, Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 16:35:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EEC1065672 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:35:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from imedmobility.com (host-50.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EB08FC08 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:35:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from midco.net (host-67-54-107-208.midco.net [208.107.54.67]) by imedmobility.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 587CF1173C3A for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:35:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <49F5DED3.8010609@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:35:31 -0500 From: Adam Vande More User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090408) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Apache won't start - undefined symbol "libintl_bindtextdomain" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:35:54 -0000 Bill Somerson wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed Apache 2.2, but when I try to start it, I get the following > error: > > httpd: Syntax error on line 105 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: > Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_dnssd.so into server: > /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3: Undefined symbol > "libintl_bindtextdomain" > > I don't know what "libintl" is (or "libavahi" or "mod_dnssd.so", for that > matter), but my /usr/local/lib does contain a bunch of "libintl" files: > > libintl.a > libintl.la > libintl.sogettext > libintl.so.8 > Those are gettext libs... essential for many apps. If you don't use /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_dnssd.so it's safe to remove from apaches config to quell those particular errors. You can also try recompiling the mentioned ports with gettext support. pkg_info -W will also provide more info. > I have also installed Subversion, and asked it to use Apache, so I assume > that affected my Apache config. > > I have not made any manual modifications to httpd.conf. > > I am running 7.0 Release, and I have the following versions of various > things that may be related (all of them up to date as of today, as are all > my other packages): > > apache-2.2.11_4 > avahi-app-0.6.25 > avahi-gtk-0.6.25 > subversion-1.6.0_2 > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 16:38:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDEF106566B for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:38:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gyrd-se@thanelange.no) Received: from sakura.nani.no (sakura.nani.no [195.204.164.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39F438FC13 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gyrd-se@thanelange.no) Received: (qmail 42782 invoked by uid 89); 27 Apr 2009 18:12:57 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (gyrd@thanelange.no@192.168.1.47) by sakura.nani.no with SMTP; 27 Apr 2009 18:12:57 +0200 Message-ID: <49F5D925.5040302@thanelange.no> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:11:17 +0200 From: Gyrd Thane Lange User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "illoai@gmail.com" References: <49F4ABB3.6000808@prgmr.com> <20090427002114.GA21041@rei> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jorg Andersson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partitioning for multiple systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:38:08 -0000 illoai@gmail.com skrev: > 2009/4/26 Jorg Andersson : >> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 03:45:33PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: >>> I don't recall FreeBSD supporting extended partitions... at all >> I remember reading they aren't in /dev/ but still is mountable. Is this >> still the case? > > They show up just fine here (8-current), > and I am fairly sure they were visible in > /dev when I was running 7.x > > The "big deal" is that you can't (easily) > install FreeBSD on a logical slice. > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3194 I've had my FreeBSD running from a logical slice for a while now. It's not too hard to do if you already have a working FreeBSD on one of the primary slices. To be able to boot the system I use a patched GRUB boot manager and a patched FreeBSD /boot/loader The tricky part is bootstrapping the system to get all this in place. Gyrd ^_^ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 16:40:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F46D106566B for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADC38FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F01DEB53C9; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:40:07 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70254C8001; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:40:06 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CfKlUzu8MdcK; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:40:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl137-12.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.8.12]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D514503F; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:40:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3RGe5Zc043860; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:40:05 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3RGe4Fh043405; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:40:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: John Nielsen References: <200904240535.37460.lists@jnielsen.net> <874owc8bfx.fsf@kobe.laptop> <200904271123.32647.lists@jnielsen.net> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:39:53 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200904271123.32647.lists@jnielsen.net> (John Nielsen's message of "Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:23:32 -0400") Message-ID: <87ws963vae.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS history access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:40:08 -0000 --=-=-= On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:23:32 -0400, John Nielsen wrote: > On Saturday 25 April 2009 09:12:50 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:35:34 -0400, John Nielsen > wrote: >> > I'm working on a machine learning project and I'd like to use the >> > FreeBSD src CVS commit history as a datasource. Is there a >> > resource-friendly way for me to download some or all of it? Format >> > isn't too big an issue. >> > >> > I tried a few "cvs history" commands against the anoncvs servers but >> > get this: cvs [history aborted]: cannot open history file: >> > /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/history: No such file or directory >> >> Do you really want just the `CVSROOT/history' file? We allow mirroring >> of the entire repository, which you can then use to extract any sort of >> historical commit data. (Well, _almost_ anything. Some things like >> repo-copies and renames of raw repository files have been done without >> any sort of record, so it may be impossible to recover *those* >> particular bits.) > > I'm basically looking for a list of all commits over the past N (>2) > years with committer, timestamp, affected file(s) and/or subsystems > and possibly diff size information, etc. I don't know anything about > the "history" file in particular other than that's what cvs complained > about when I tried the "cvs history" commands against anoncvs. It > looks like the /pub/FreeBSD/development/FreeBSD-CVS/src ftp path may > have what I'm looking for (though it may be scattered through the > individual files). I'll probably (try to) set up a local CVS repo and > source it from there and see where that gets me. My CVS-fu is weak so > I'm still open to pointers. There are online instructions for mirroring a full CVS copy, so it should be relatively easy to do that. It mostly boils down to setting up the necessary disk space somewhere locally, installing one of the CVSup ports and configuring a `supfile' like this: *default host=CHANGE_THIS.freebsd.org *default base=/path/to/local/cvs/mirror *default prefix=/path/to/local/cvs/mirror *default release=cvs *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress cvs-all Yo should change `CHANGE_THIS' with the hostname of a CVSup mirror (a full list can be found in the Handbook), and then point the local CVS mirror directory from `/path/to/local/cvs/mirror' to the place you will keep the mirror. To pull over the CVS mirror files, you can then run: # cvsup -g -L 2 supfile Note that this will take quite some time if you are starting from an empty mirror, and it may be a good idea to rerun cvsup 1-2 times after it's done, to make sure you have the latest changes -- including any changes that were committed between the time you started mirroring and the time the first run was done. FYI, my local copy of the repository uses around 4 GB today, so you should plan to keep the mirror on a disk with at least this amount of space (a few extra GB won't hurt either): # du -sh /home/ncvs 4.0G /home/ncvs # >> We also have a Subversion repository now, that you can use to grab >> commit information. It takes slightly more disk space than the CVS >> repository, but subversion can export XML formatted commit logs, which >> may be slightly more useful if you plan to automate parts of the >> parsing and info-gathering. > > Yes, I'll definitely be automating the parsing, etc. Is it safe to > assume that the cvs2svn migration went successfully? XML logs do sound > appealing and aggregated (same time, multiple files) commits would be > more useful than per-file. Can I just check everything out from > svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/? The conversion from CVS to Subversion was ``good enough'' from what I see in the svn commit logs. So it may be a good idea to use `svnsync' to mirror the /base/ repository locally and take it from there. The instructions for mirroring the Subversion repository are a bit more involved, but if you decide to go that way, let me know and I will write a short description of how to do it. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkn13+MACgkQ1g+UGjGGA7YljACgwbckVjHEKedW/jRpDK8OWg3J sFQAn1NdegE/fX8Zp9yvenhdm2BI7uzM =ExoD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 16:42:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBF51065672 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.72.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389988FC15 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.2.164] ([206.210.89.202]) by mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (StrongMail Enterprise 4.1.1.4(4.1.1.4-47689)); Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:26:30 -0400 X-VirtualServerGroup: Default X-MailingID: 00000::00000::00000::00000::::1 X-SMHeaderMap: mid="X-MailingID" X-Destination-ID: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-SMFBL: ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Message-ID: <49F5DCEF.4010208@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:27:27 -0400 From: Steve Polyack User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090327) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ghirai References: <20090427191824.25e415e4.ghirai@ghirai.com> In-Reply-To: <20090427191824.25e415e4.ghirai@ghirai.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: quick vfs tuning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:42:26 -0000 Ghirai wrote: > The author suggested that increasing the default value of 8 to 16 > resulted in increased read speed, and that increasing it further > resulted in no noticeable performance gain. > > Personally, I've seen changes in vfs.read_max to provide anywhere from a 50-100% improvement in disk read performance. As you have also found, the "sweet spot" is sometimes higher than 16. I've seen significant benefits up to vfs.read_max=128 on *some* disk controllers. It really seems dependent on the disks/controllers, but setting 16 has always shown a significant improvement over the default 8 for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 16:46:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC311065693 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from billsomerson@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F64F8FC25 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from billsomerson@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so14215rvb.43 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:46:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pBXweuot8uj6zE5J9aIOh2K24hBaWXM1tvvyhUQg5cc=; b=pp8slJiSRaZ1oYYvKTnrSUvBwXZWTpF37WYY/I8e1ZZ8xsTG/loKGK38AeFHJd7tvK uQ+EHlAR1LhK5lOePDMuV/DA8l441BdIz1CXHn7/QyX6R3TE/X3fJWAjc9Sjznut1Wr6 oxK0Iu+HLbIV0SIrB1NfCH+5sgKBa4I2fLJDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fLwLT7w2kDEoZ6HLEbUwZobwqGqYvq9Zcd4phe9PIrTuzD5mz3mC9TOcs8RCoEmTJM JaEBaExd9mKbhCAK2SD6pl0LwOoLJS3TuzzaGCMGl+apay5+wJsh6bkhI4DbPVPFbpGw gEalvOasrcAvj6gcJqkzVtjV6Ysu83kyFYFPA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.28.8 with SMTP id f8mr1132081wfj.116.1240850792137; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:46:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F5DED3.8010609@gmail.com> References: <49F5DED3.8010609@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:46:32 -0400 Message-ID: From: Bill Somerson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Apache won't start - undefined symbol "libintl_bindtextdomain" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:46:34 -0000 Thanks, but I'm not sure what you mean by "recompiling the mentioned ports with gettext support". I did a "make config" in avahi-app (which is where libintl.so.8 came from), and it said there were no configuration options. Apache 2.2 has a whole bunch of configuration options, but I didn't see any that were obviously related to gettext. Could you (or someone) please give me a little more detail on how to do this? Just to be explicit, I have the following "gettext" packages installed (which are the latest as of this morning): gettext-0.17_1 p5-gettext-1.05_2 Thanks again. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > Bill Somerson wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I've installed Apache 2.2, but when I try to start it, I get the following >> error: >> >> httpd: Syntax error on line 105 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: >> Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_dnssd.so into server: >> /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3: Undefined symbol >> "libintl_bindtextdomain" >> >> I don't know what "libintl" is (or "libavahi" or "mod_dnssd.so", for that >> matter), but my /usr/local/lib does contain a bunch of "libintl" files: >> >> libintl.a >> libintl.la >> libintl.sogettext >> libintl.so.8 >> >> > Those are gettext libs... essential for many apps. > If you don't use > > /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_dnssd.so > > it's safe to remove from apaches config to quell those particular errors. > You can also try recompiling the mentioned ports with gettext support. > pkg_info -W will also provide more info. > >> I have also installed Subversion, and asked it to use Apache, so I assume >> that affected my Apache config. >> >> I have not made any manual modifications to httpd.conf. >> >> I am running 7.0 Release, and I have the following versions of various >> things that may be related (all of them up to date as of today, as are all >> my other packages): >> >> apache-2.2.11_4 >> avahi-app-0.6.25 >> avahi-gtk-0.6.25 >> subversion-1.6.0_2 >> >> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 16:49:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1001065672 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:49:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from billsomerson@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC9E8FC0A for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:49:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from billsomerson@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so16013wfg.7 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:49:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IOUdEdv2bGo36nWvgBwnOGMoPS3DsHqW1mt+X5pcaH0=; b=bMYiSDLEnPf4kuqwDumfmgCFtd+n7I0NUYi3XcAvQW+0mc5xx1oAWMq1rByxt/OJ/Q 0LiOmYrMfCxa8A0XKSUz2L62+cp4PNyYSLgH3cne3i68PCWXhMqBVdp3ZSPMvnfjQX68 9/h3zgDbNFe2MYlvfNc5Z16sKsepR0mkCOSz4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EQwevzfy9sKp38zogtGTE+aknHZOBV8YVT8mgXXbf9s20vEFojVNwO/jUOjpmpY2pc 24R/OkbowHn7X0m2p3fJqcqWCaV2ATlsrqaoi3aiUvaSOsI+2ckf7XD4puG9K5pf7RDt mcbXxbhDuZHFcqeXe2FNqNjW/f1IvzRDK72vs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.50.6 with SMTP id x6mr132653wfx.195.1240850984307; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:49:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <49F5DED3.8010609@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:49:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: Bill Somerson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Apache won't start - undefined symbol "libintl_bindtextdomain" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:49:45 -0000 "I did a "make config" in avahi-app (which is where libintl.so.8 came from)" Sorry, I meant avahi-app is where libavahi-common.so.3 came from (which is the thing that's complaining about a lack of libintl_bindtextdomain). On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Bill Somerson wrote: > Thanks, but I'm not sure what you mean by "recompiling the mentioned ports > with gettext support". I did a "make config" in avahi-app (which is where > libintl.so.8 came from), and it said there were no configuration options. > Apache 2.2 has a whole bunch of configuration options, but I didn't see any > that were obviously related to gettext. Could you (or someone) please give > me a little more detail on how to do this? > > Just to be explicit, I have the following "gettext" packages installed > (which are the latest as of this morning): > > gettext-0.17_1 > p5-gettext-1.05_2 > > Thanks again. > > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > >> Bill Somerson wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've installed Apache 2.2, but when I try to start it, I get the >>> following >>> error: >>> >>> httpd: Syntax error on line 105 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: >>> Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_dnssd.so into server: >>> /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3: Undefined symbol >>> "libintl_bindtextdomain" >>> >>> I don't know what "libintl" is (or "libavahi" or "mod_dnssd.so", for that >>> matter), but my /usr/local/lib does contain a bunch of "libintl" files: >>> >>> libintl.a >>> libintl.la >>> libintl.sogettext >>> libintl.so.8 >>> >>> >> Those are gettext libs... essential for many apps. >> If you don't use >> >> /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_dnssd.so >> >> it's safe to remove from apaches config to quell those particular errors. >> You can also try recompiling the mentioned ports with gettext support. >> pkg_info -W will also provide more info. >> >>> I have also installed Subversion, and asked it to use Apache, so I assume >>> that affected my Apache config. >>> >>> I have not made any manual modifications to httpd.conf. >>> >>> I am running 7.0 Release, and I have the following versions of various >>> things that may be related (all of them up to date as of today, as are >>> all >>> my other packages): >>> >>> apache-2.2.11_4 >>> avahi-app-0.6.25 >>> avahi-gtk-0.6.25 >>> subversion-1.6.0_2 >>> >>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 16:49:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A2210656C7 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (relay.lc-words.com [62.121.130.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D846D8FC20 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA03DB802C for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:49:55 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lcwords.com; s=mainlcwords; t=1240850995; bh=UAfHIVDofwuQAKppOQn8aPfHeNcj0dYRoQpTyykKEzM=; h=Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sJVJatbGkHAews9ciVv8/BaME/G6NErMtfjt2TSM8rQ4Z7uUBsMNvAhBVVDVsXEUd 4sGQ8bOeLP+wT1KnxIbAbw0zGHSvKy1jPuVNqUkghEvSNPCMGB1FGUTYONQJRkaRMk /Cl3X0zBxE8kKXSQrnaXVyhmFUOU7TOFNM6OrrNs= Received: from relay.lc-words.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay.lc-words.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 80278-02 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:49:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B839B8029 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:49:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 77.254.169.179 (SquirrelMail authenticated user z.szalbot@lcwords.com) by relay.lc-words.com with HTTP; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:49:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:49:55 +0200 (CEST) From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: mysql hiding from top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:49:57 -0000 hello, Today I have finally upgraded my system to 7.1-RELEASE and just noticing that mysql process is not being shown via the top command. PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 1612 root 1 20 0 9212K 6716K pause 2 0:26 0.00% perl5.8.9 966 www 1 8 0 8236K 5452K nanslp 2 0:22 0.00% perl5.8.9 1594 root 1 20 0 8740K 6220K pause 0 0:12 0.00% perl5.8.9 However, if you grep processes, you can see it should be displayed in the top entries. $ ps ax |grep mysql 32880 p0- I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe... 32906 p0- S 1:33.72 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld... I can live with that but maybe there's some explanation for this? Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 17:14:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537341065670 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:14:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout012.mac.com (asmtpout012.mac.com [17.148.16.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9BC8FC17 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:14:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp012.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KIR00GNBRUNS290@asmtp012.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:13:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Chuck Swiger To: Zbigniew Szalbot In-reply-to: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Message-id: Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:13:35 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: mysql hiding from top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:14:11 -0000 Hi-- On Apr 27, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > However, if you grep processes, you can see it should be displayed > in the > top entries. > $ ps ax |grep mysql > 32880 p0- I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe... > 32906 p0- S 1:33.72 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld... > > I can live with that but maybe there's some explanation for this? The process is sleeping-- perhaps it isn't using enough CPU to make it into the list using default sort ordering? Try "top -o time", perhaps.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 17:14:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A791065672 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (relay.lc-words.com [62.121.130.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19BB8FC15 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90291B805C; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:14:38 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lcwords.com; s=mainlcwords; t=1240852478; bh=0rwtVxHGXtJ+DVHgjHEvZa9cutCFLoUUmHBguicxK/g=; h=Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NPO8jKnvPR3OaUvP7seaj5bJsa1+Rg50iESgQM96Zq0/yjeWigWqpogrYPDs2bsdv s6piqspgOMWUPEyZei2m2kO7nByRWFA2Q4ZvSwinjQpFlM3qFkCkM5BxA1xh/u0Sk+ y+EbVaxmZxg21/m5stsWsdiMliqbquCQCVgquvQE= Received: from relay.lc-words.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay.lc-words.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 80288-05; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:14:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1FFB804D; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:14:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 77.254.169.179 (SquirrelMail authenticated user z.szalbot@lcwords.com) by relay.lc-words.com with HTTP; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:14:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <87a1aafd13089e38121a3376d14690a2.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com> In-Reply-To: <720E9A87F95E44B452BF93E9@utd65257.utdallas.edu> References: <720E9A87F95E44B452BF93E9@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:14:38 +0200 (CEST) From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: "Paul Schmehl" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql hiding from top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:14:40 -0000 Hello, > Top doesn't show *all* processes. It shows the processes using the most > cpu > (by default. You can also display by io.) So, if mysqld isn't using a > lot of > cpu, it's not going to show up in the list. You might be able to force it > to > show up by giving top a number (of processes you want to see) that > includes > enough that mysqld will show up. Thank you Paul! Yes, I know that. Prior to upgrade mysql was always on top as it used most time. And I can see it now when it is active but it is quite strange that it does not get displayed when the system is idle. Not even when I do top -o time. Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 17:22:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66001065674 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (relay.lc-words.com [62.121.130.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BDF8FC1A for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D4AB8044; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:22:04 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lcwords.com; s=mainlcwords; t=1240852924; bh=w4ijFYip8HI7ocJ9ldTLT2jV6KlLyeIgW02xHcoN4Sg=; h=Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nHXS5xrjqdtfZIxGdaH77zaq0EwfyxgiutBPAM8UeL0tAdXSBiXuNnnnSDQ6YvQeV z7x0Z15NSOtlYvpnrA/RkdvxxGoTgUrIBTANVlmrRrIkSlEBO0EcSWFi9RT1nS/pqq d1ywziIMDggpkwElkkXQeXEpViisIDNp0IvXNvWw= Received: from relay.lc-words.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay.lc-words.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76740-06; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:22:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5F3B8028; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:22:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 77.254.169.179 (SquirrelMail authenticated user z.szalbot@lcwords.com) by relay.lc-words.com with HTTP; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:22:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <8cd58619e76c0c29e71202b9bd880a3f.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:22:03 +0200 (CEST) From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: "Chuck Swiger" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: mysql hiding from top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:22:06 -0000 Hi there, > The process is sleeping-- perhaps it isn't using enough CPU to make it > into the list using default sort ordering? Try "top -o time", > perhaps.... No, this is a different issue. Take a look: PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 88268 www 1 47 0 40260K 29336K select 2 0:03 2.49% httpd 89632 www 1 44 0 33648K 23352K CPU0 0 0:00 0.78% httpd 89290 www 1 20 0 25456K 17760K lockf 2 0:01 0.68% httpd 89074 www 1 44 0 26384K 17696K select 2 0:00 0.20% httpd 32906 mysql 37 4 0 76636K 41664K sbwait 1 0:00 0.10% mysqld It does appear at times but it is showing 0:00 TIME. But compare it to the same mysql pid below: $ ps ax |grep mysql 32906 p0- S 1:41.77 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld This is what I find strange... :) -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 17:26:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5B110656A6 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout014.mac.com (asmtpout014.mac.com [17.148.16.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3218FC1B for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp014.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KIR001CGSFLG4A0@asmtp014.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:26:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Chuck Swiger To: Zbigniew Szalbot In-reply-to: <8cd58619e76c0c29e71202b9bd880a3f.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <8cd58619e76c0c29e71202b9bd880a3f.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com> Message-id: Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:26:09 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: mysql hiding from top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:26:32 -0000 On Apr 27, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU > COMMAND [ ... ] > 32906 mysql 37 4 0 76636K 41664K sbwait 1 0:00 0.10% > mysqld > > It does appear at times but it is showing 0:00 TIME. But compare it > to the > same mysql pid below: > > $ ps ax |grep mysql > 32906 p0- S 1:41.77 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld > > This is what I find strange... :) Ah-- I've heard rumors that top or something doesn't handle accounting for CPU time used by multithreaded processes very well... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 17:33:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C241065672 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (relay.lc-words.com [62.121.130.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200B98FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C878B804C; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:33:36 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lcwords.com; s=mainlcwords; t=1240853616; bh=u8n7ZMtp3OHO5yGak5ztBs41WDkNyMC150k9+H9kDZ8=; h=Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pxZR/56fNOke1nT8m2pbRO34qW6UMSIJM59q8VLCJew8hmtYBntlM2RVCYLlMXiUn EdnbD2D+RKaL3mtcXwj5o3R6XQ+GrHFA9TBkmA2O8yyTjZd9jtZHG2ANANn0jW5UUj FQFqdIOkNn6LocZplGQr4MMFJSw0hwZp0MFGKH9M= Received: from relay.lc-words.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay.lc-words.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 80278-06; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:33:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C00B8028; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:33:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 77.254.169.179 (SquirrelMail authenticated user z.szalbot@lcwords.com) by relay.lc-words.com with HTTP; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:33:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <86017fbabfc52e49a50fd0ae792cef4f.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com> In-Reply-To: References: <8cd58619e76c0c29e71202b9bd880a3f.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:33:35 +0200 (CEST) From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: "Chuck Swiger" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: mysql hiding from top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:33:37 -0000 > Ah-- I've heard rumors that top or something doesn't handle accounting > for CPU time used by multithreaded processes very well... OK. Well I have never had any problem with that on FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE. It started misbehaving today right after an upgrade to 7.1-RELEASE. Like I said, I can really live with that! :) Thank you! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 17:37:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EAD106564A for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:37:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout019.mac.com (asmtpout019.mac.com [17.148.16.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA368FC1C for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:37:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp019.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KIR00I5VSYN9G10@asmtp019.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:37:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Chuck Swiger To: Zbigniew Szalbot In-reply-to: <86017fbabfc52e49a50fd0ae792cef4f.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <8cd58619e76c0c29e71202b9bd880a3f.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com> <86017fbabfc52e49a50fd0ae792cef4f.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com> Message-id: <1924104B-A37D-4D18-9B48-C195C1636211@mac.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:37:35 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: mysql hiding from top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:37:38 -0000 On Apr 27, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >> Ah-- I've heard rumors that top or something doesn't handle >> accounting >> for CPU time used by multithreaded processes very well... > > OK. Well I have never had any problem with that on FreeBSD 7.0- > RELEASE. It > started misbehaving today right after an upgrade to 7.1-RELEASE. > Like I > said, I can really live with that! :) True, although if it's readily reproducible, it would be good to fix. > Thank you! You're most welcome, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 17:39:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724181065690 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=361c1ced8=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F03A8FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=361c1ced8=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,255,1238994000"; d="scan'208";a="10958002" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2009 12:11:11 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31E8288AE; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:11:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:11:11 +0000 From: Paul Schmehl To: Zbigniew Szalbot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <720E9A87F95E44B452BF93E9@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: mysql hiding from top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:39:58 -0000 --On Monday, April 27, 2009 11:49:55 -0500 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > > hello, > > Today I have finally upgraded my system to 7.1-RELEASE and just noticing > that mysql process is not being shown via the top command. > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND > 1612 root 1 20 0 9212K 6716K pause 2 0:26 0.00% perl5.8.9 > 966 www 1 8 0 8236K 5452K nanslp 2 0:22 0.00% perl5.8.9 > 1594 root 1 20 0 8740K 6220K pause 0 0:12 0.00% perl5.8.9 > > However, if you grep processes, you can see it should be displayed in the > top entries. > $ ps ax |grep mysql > 32880 p0- I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe... > 32906 p0- S 1:33.72 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld... > > I can live with that but maybe there's some explanation for this? > Top doesn't show *all* processes. It shows the processes using the most cpu (by default. You can also display by io.) So, if mysqld isn't using a lot of cpu, it's not going to show up in the list. You might be able to force it to show up by giving top a number (of processes you want to see) that includes enough that mysqld will show up. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* Check the headers before clicking on Reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 17:41:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8BF1065672 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (relay.lc-words.com [62.121.130.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370A78FC0C for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lcwords.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A245B8044; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:41:30 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lcwords.com; s=mainlcwords; t=1240854090; bh=3azshAZKAa357rG+4vYxYzSB7xZ6X/xozT5Pr4IN53w=; h=Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=d81fbhQQ3YoEaW/dCxKU0/x2RhO+iU75R5U4DcWxdBXLF0iWYE/tnI/riEXZU3wwo XjmmmeOjI/acOLc2cqEt2OVlzE3UXvKCCh1Cx17hz1qn2H/EHhFttm55KYEcLvSRx7 kv7ran6EDoeXaqFtvfXbzar7Oq9GXaiF3lvp8ZOk= Received: from relay.lc-words.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay.lc-words.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73137-09; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:41:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873B3B8028; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:41:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 77.254.169.179 (SquirrelMail authenticated user z.szalbot@lcwords.com) by relay.lc-words.com with HTTP; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:41:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <9bfe9168f17073182de3c15135caf3ce.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com> In-Reply-To: <1924104B-A37D-4D18-9B48-C195C1636211@mac.com> References: <8cd58619e76c0c29e71202b9bd880a3f.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com> <86017fbabfc52e49a50fd0ae792cef4f.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com> <1924104B-A37D-4D18-9B48-C195C1636211@mac.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:41:29 +0200 (CEST) From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: "Chuck Swiger" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: mysql hiding from top X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:41:32 -0000 > True, although if it's readily reproducible, it would be good to fix. I'd be happy to test but I do not know what to do/where to start. I know it is a permanent issue, because I even restarted the mysql server thinking that something is wrong that it is not being shown in top but the history repeated itself. Thanks Chuck - I appreciate the time you use to help. -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 17:50:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50641065676 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dsewnr.buffer@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDF18FC0C for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dsewnr.buffer@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so45920qwe.7 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:50:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=opp9FwOoLsdOZ2y8LGkD5RMPEuBgMaZ95P+ZDNaT5YM=; b=Sr1y8i2rnar14JhxuEVJObKZBJhx33Px/9ZerMN4UFUHPmOm0cmUoT8KTYXjGP5RDW +2zdGqdWam6TU3My3OM0G9XvWGMktyW+GpS9ou0VchnPFCsSpXyrA0mwTMOgHXtZPyXv lQ2YhEdPGNA3aaYf2H6SNSFW3Ar3uAyqL1FJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bvNuYM5JzsHgt5NsZxdzfLrkdKlwoutHj14Kqu2uKTnbnnXj9cT9jG+1i0oG7SJKNJ q3aRrF4Gw5l1bYvRb25Q7S7AlMpYCX/om7HuUExBWupo67Cw92nRNdPY9tz1P4JA2Rkj V4gB/w9xRFdtfa0sE1MzeF1jWgcwO9jgSoJ8E= Received: by 10.229.86.145 with SMTP id s17mr2845657qcl.10.1240853104021; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dorara.twbbs.org (59-127-33-87.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59.127.33.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm10979193ywf.59.2009.04.27.10.25.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49F5EA6A.6060608@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:24:58 +0800 From: Dsewnr Lu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090423) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: netstat doesn't work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dsewnr.buffer@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:50:40 -0000 Hi all, I've used FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT for a month. My kernel is: ( FreeBSD localhost 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #6: Mon Apr 13 23:56:04 CST 2009 root@localhost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FB8 i386 ) Most things work fine, but the "netstat" command shows nothing for me. Could someone help me ? Thanks, Dsewnr Lu -- // dsewnr From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 18:07:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1191065712 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07E3D8FC16 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 81753 invoked by uid 89); 27 Apr 2009 18:07:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 27 Apr 2009 18:07:53 -0000 Message-ID: <49F5F459.9000403@ibctech.ca> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:07:21 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maxim Khitrov References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:07:28 -0000 Maxim Khitrov wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm setting up a firewall and would like to monitor certain system > parameters like network, cpu, and memory usage. SNMP is an obvious > choice to do the monitoring and I'm planning to set up rrdtool to > generate graphs of captured data. The question is what SNMP agent to > use. I found net-snmp and bsnmpd (which is included in the base > system). Has anyone here used both implementations, and if so, what > are the basic differences? I use bsnmpd, because I couldn't measure 64-bit counters otherwise. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 18:19:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E369F1065675 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:19:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC778FC1B for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LyVQh-0006pf-F1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:19:47 +0000 Received: from mailsupport.rambler.ru ([81.19.66.129]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:19:47 +0000 Received: from citrin by mailsupport.rambler.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:19:47 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anton Yuzhaninov Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Rambler Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mailsupport.rambler.ru X-Comment-To: Maxim Khitrov User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/7.1-STABLE (amd64)) Sender: news Subject: Re: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:19:52 -0000 On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:28:01 -0400, Maxim Khitrov wrote: MK> I'm setting up a firewall and would like to monitor certain system MK> parameters like network, cpu, and memory usage. SNMP is an obvious MK> choice to do the monitoring and I'm planning to set up rrdtool to MK> generate graphs of captured data. The question is what SNMP agent to MK> use. I found net-snmp and bsnmpd (which is included in the base MK> system). Has anyone here used both implementations, and if so, what MK> are the basic differences? main difference is the set of supported MIBs. In general net-snmp supports more MIBs than bsnmpd. E. g. BEGEMOT-PF-MIB supported only by bsnmpd and useful for monitoring pf(4), UCD-SNMP-MIB supported only by net-snmp and useful for monitoring CPU load (ssCpuRaw* counters). -- Anton Yuzhaninov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 18:25:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AD2106566B for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:25:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from lrelay02.edpnet.net (lrelay02.edpnet.net [212.71.1.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779898FC13 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:25:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from bsdaddict.localnet (213.219.164.52.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [213.219.164.52]) by lrelay02.edpnet.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3RIOwv5023741; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:24:58 +0200 From: beni To: Polytropon Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:24:53 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/7.2-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <200904261706.59497.beni@brinckman.info> <20090426193207.5c27c614.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090426193207.5c27c614.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Face: $,~&QrDrInYiH(ZUXjNH_0r4q\`w83!}&; +8c.K[`NnZwV|m$5N{NCkWesaR.9|yqIC[)g=a;93dz2mP7iv)LLzBd;6^Y:=*>@U;_\+4( MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200904272024.54590.beni@brinckman.info> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/9292/Mon Apr 27 03:25:00 2009 on lrelay02.edpnet.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on lrelay02.edpnet.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: beni@brinckman.info List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:25:02 -0000 On Sunday 26 April 2009 19:32:07 Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:06:58 +0200, beni wrote: > > Why should a graphical installer have less functionality ? > hasn't been claimed. GUI installer just requires more resources, > more overhead. Why should a GUI need more functionality than a text based installer ? Why can't both have the same functionality ? > > And what is wrong > > with some eye candy ? > > Eye candy is wrong exactly when it reduces functionality > (instead of adding it). For example, if you need more time > for an installation, require a mouse, or can't use your > Braille readout anymore - then it's wrong- Or better: It's > useless. But why should a GUI be less functional ? I don't see why ! > > Guys, please, wake up, we don't live in the 70's anymore > > ! > > That's why FreeBSD is not following strange MICROS~1 concepts > of how to do several things. :-) > > > I'm using pc-bsd. Why ? Cause of the easy and nice installer. It's as > > simple as that. > > You value an operating system by how the installer LOOKS like? > I'm sure you're kidding. :-) > > Honestly: People can't be that stupid. Oh wait... okay, I didn't > say anything. :-) > > The point is - what I would have better said instead of the > previous two paragraphs - a text mode installer LOOKS more > serious. Serious biznis, you know? Servers, and workstations, > and operating system. For work to be done. Lots of work. Ask > people who work as admins, who keep mailservers running, > webservers, application servers. Do they choose the OS by the > amount of eye candy in the INSTALLER? I'm sure they don't. I'm not a sysadmin, indeed. But it should surprise me a lot if a admin who has to, as you say yourself, keep every server running, need to (re)install a lot of servers on a regular basis. Then there is something seriously wrong. It was my believe that a server needs to be kept running, not being reinstalled twice a week (with or without a GUI installer). And so a desktop user has to do it with the prehistoric sysinstall... And I don't value an OS by its installer, but as a desktop user I think I have already done a bit of (re)installations, be it debian, ubuntu, suse, or Micros~1 in different flavors. > > And before anyone says "do it yourself", "get a sponsor" or something > > down those lines : if it is all about choice, why not give the > > people/user the choice ? Now I don't have any choice : sysinstall or > > pc-bsd... > > Or DesktopBSD. :-) > > > I'm for both : text and graphical :-) > > As I explained in an earlier post: If the GUI installer is > (a) not the only way, (b) not an auto-default, (c) does work > well enough even on older hardware and (d) doesn't make things > more complicated, I wouldn't have any problem with it, I would > even use it! Nice to hear it :-) Me too ! > But please note that many users of FreeBSD are scared by the > way other GUI driven installers work. Much time is needed to > do an installation, and there's more emphasize put on how > things look instead of how they work. So I can understand > everyone who says: "When FreeBSD gets a crappy installerjust > like 'Windows' and some Linusi, then I would look around for > another OS that fits my needs." A pc-bsd is installed in what, 5 or 6 clics (if it is that much). Same for windows or ubuntu. Text based installation takes more time i think. Finetuning and installing programs afterwards takes more time, but that is the same for all those OS'es, no ? So I think we will agree to disagree... -- Beni. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 18:25:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB4B106566C for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6B18FC15 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:25:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LyVVn-00074D-1D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:25:03 +0000 Received: from mailsupport.rambler.ru ([81.19.66.129]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:25:03 +0000 Received: from citrin by mailsupport.rambler.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:25:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anton Yuzhaninov Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Rambler Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <49F5EA6A.6060608@gmail.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mailsupport.rambler.ru X-Comment-To: Dsewnr Lu User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/7.1-STABLE (amd64)) Sender: news Subject: Re: netstat doesn't work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:25:06 -0000 On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:24:58 +0800, Dsewnr Lu wrote: DL> I've used FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT for a month. DL> My kernel is: ( FreeBSD localhost 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #6: DL> Mon Apr 13 23:56:04 CST 2009 DL> root@localhost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FB8 i386 ) DL> Most things work fine, but the "netstat" command shows nothing for me. DL> Could someone help me ? Probably you rebuild only kernel or only world. Try to rebuild both: kernel and world from same source. -- Anton Yuzhaninov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 18:33:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6AF106567B for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:33:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from lrelay01.edpnet.net (lrelay01.edpnet.net [212.71.1.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CD38FC25 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:33:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from bsdaddict.localnet (213.219.164.52.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [213.219.164.52]) by lrelay01.edpnet.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3RIXmCo026701 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:33:48 +0200 From: beni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:33:46 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/7.2-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> <49F4A3D8.3090106@gothic-chat.de> In-Reply-To: <49F4A3D8.3090106@gothic-chat.de> X-Face: $,~&QrDrInYiH(ZUXjNH_0r4q\`w83!}&; +8c.K[`NnZwV|m$5N{NCkWesaR.9|yqIC[)g=a;93dz2mP7iv)LLzBd;6^Y:=*>@U;_\+4( MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200904272033.47390.beni@brinckman.info> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/9292/Mon Apr 27 03:25:00 2009 on lrelay01.edpnet.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on lrelay01.edpnet.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: beni@brinckman.info List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:33:51 -0000 On Sunday 26 April 2009 20:11:36 Neo [GC] wrote: > Just my two cents: > > Why a graphical installer? Shure, it looks nice, easy, modern and more > accessable (examples: Mac OS X, Vista), but on the other hand, for me > FreeBSD never was intended to be fancy, but to be functional. What is wrong with fancy functional ? The two can go together I think. For you it may not be, but I would like it to be for me. And as to now, I don't have any choice : there is no fancy, easy, nice, modern and accessable installer. > The text mode installer: > - works on every PC, every graphics card, every screen, with serial > console, with ssh, with screenreader > - is easy enough for people who are able to use it after the installation > - doesn't need a mouse to be usable So why don't use a text mode for server and a GUI for desktop ? > FreeBSD isn't Linux/OSX/Windows, FreeBSD is not for users who want > eyecandy, FreeBSD is for professinals who want perfectly working > systems, who know how to edit .conf-files, which packages the need and > so on. (at least I think so) Oh so all those desktopusers with Gnome/KDE/... will gladly hear this ! As a desktopuser I can't be a professional who wants a perfectly working system ? Thanks. > IMHO, the biggest problem with graphical installers is that they just > don't work for everyone. For example, my last attempts to install Ubuntu > Linux stopped when the installer didn't work with my graphics card or > just choosed a mode my TFT didn't support. This was such a bad > experience, I didn't wanted to try it anymore. Well, my first install of windows/debian/freebsd/... didn't work out as it was supposed to be either. So ? Even with pc-bsd not all my hardware is recognized now. But if you want something that works for everyone, I don't think that *bsd or linux is something for you. -- Beni. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 18:38:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380B71065674 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.72.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0119D8FC18 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:38:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.2.164] ([206.210.89.202]) by mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (StrongMail Enterprise 4.1.1.4(4.1.1.4-47689)); Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:37:57 -0400 X-VirtualServerGroup: Default X-MailingID: 00000::00000::00000::00000::::4 X-SMHeaderMap: mid="X-MailingID" X-Destination-ID: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-SMFBL: ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Message-ID: <49F5FBBF.6060207@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:38:55 -0400 From: Steve Polyack User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090327) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Bertrand References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> <49F5F459.9000403@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <49F5F459.9000403@ibctech.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Maxim Khitrov , Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:38:47 -0000 Steve Bertrand wrote: > Maxim Khitrov wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I'm setting up a firewall and would like to monitor certain system >> parameters like network, cpu, and memory usage. SNMP is an obvious >> choice to do the monitoring and I'm planning to set up rrdtool to >> generate graphs of captured data. The question is what SNMP agent to >> use. I found net-snmp and bsnmpd (which is included in the base >> system). Has anyone here used both implementations, and if so, what >> are the basic differences? >> > > I use bsnmpd, because I couldn't measure 64-bit counters otherwise. > > net-snmp has no problems providing 64-bit counters (interface and disk). You must build it with -DWITH_MFD_REWRITES (passes --with-mfd-rewrites to ./configure). I do not know why this is not the default. It works just fine. I also have a PR open to make this define a ports 'make config' option (therefore a persistent setting), but the maintainer has ignored this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 18:39:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592661065670 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:39:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 928758FC16 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 82893 invoked by uid 89); 27 Apr 2009 18:40:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 27 Apr 2009 18:40:01 -0000 Message-ID: <49F5FBE1.8050001@ibctech.ca> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:39:29 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Polyack References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> <49F5F459.9000403@ibctech.ca> <49F5FBBF.6060207@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <49F5FBBF.6060207@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Maxim Khitrov , Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:39:37 -0000 Steve Polyack wrote: > Steve Bertrand wrote: >> Maxim Khitrov wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I'm setting up a firewall and would like to monitor certain system >>> parameters like network, cpu, and memory usage. SNMP is an obvious >>> choice to do the monitoring and I'm planning to set up rrdtool to >>> generate graphs of captured data. The question is what SNMP agent to >>> use. I found net-snmp and bsnmpd (which is included in the base >>> system). Has anyone here used both implementations, and if so, what >>> are the basic differences? >>> >> >> I use bsnmpd, because I couldn't measure 64-bit counters otherwise. >> >> > net-snmp has no problems providing 64-bit counters (interface and > disk). You must build it with -DWITH_MFD_REWRITES (passes > --with-mfd-rewrites to ./configure). I do not know why this is not the > default. It works just fine. I also have a PR open to make this define > a ports 'make config' option (therefore a persistent setting), but the > maintainer has ignored this. I did not know this. Thanks for the heads-up! Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 19:03:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86631065672 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) Received: from mxsf09.insightbb.com (mxsf09.insightbb.com [74.128.0.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60BC8FC1E for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,255,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="84989978" Received: from unknown (HELO asav00.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf09.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2009 14:34:28 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmICAP6W9UlKg4ed/2dsb2JhbAAIzj6DdAU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,255,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="79353830" Received: from 74-131-135-157.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO [192.168.2.3]) ([74.131.135.157]) by asavout00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2009 14:34:28 -0400 Message-ID: <49F5F9F9.5050506@InsightBB.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:31:21 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Chicken and egg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:03:19 -0000 I've been having trouble with X11 ports, so I deleted all my packages and tried to install xorg fresh. xorg port failed trying to build cairo, cairo failed because it couldn't build libdrm, libdrm failed because cairo's headers weren't installed. So in summary, I can't install cairo because it wants to build libdrm, which won't build/install because it wants cairo. And I tried to install packages or the X11 distro from the ftp site and also from my 7.2 RC-1 media. I tried setting the Options for "any" as well as RELEASE_7_2_0, to no avail. My system is up and running multi-user, so sysinstall failed to install any packages. I built cairo with make -k install, so it would brute force past the error, and after that I built libdrm and cairo again with portupgrade -fr libdrm cairo. -- Steven Friedrich Lexington, KY 40509 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 19:03:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0B61065674; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E538FC24; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:03:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [172.17.2.19] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n3RJ3VCx038241; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:03:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:03:30 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200904240535.37460.lists@jnielsen.net> <200904271123.32647.lists@jnielsen.net> <87ws963vae.fsf@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <87ws963vae.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904271503.30531.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: CVS history access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:03:37 -0000 On Monday 27 April 2009 12:39:53 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:23:32 -0400, John Nielsen wrote: > > I'm basically looking for a list of all commits over the past N (>2) > > years with committer, timestamp, affected file(s) and/or subsystems > > and possibly diff size information, etc. I don't know anything about > > the "history" file in particular other than that's what cvs > > complained about when I tried the "cvs history" commands against > > anoncvs. It looks like the /pub/FreeBSD/development/FreeBSD-CVS/src > > ftp path may have what I'm looking for (though it may be scattered > > through the individual files). I'll probably (try to) set up a local > > CVS repo and source it from there and see where that gets me. My > > CVS-fu is weak so I'm still open to pointers. > > There are online instructions for mirroring a full CVS copy, so it > should be relatively easy to do that. It mostly boils down to setting > up the necessary disk space somewhere locally, installing one of the > CVSup ports and configuring a `supfile' like this: > > *default host=CHANGE_THIS.freebsd.org > *default base=/path/to/local/cvs/mirror > *default prefix=/path/to/local/cvs/mirror > *default release=cvs > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > > cvs-all Thanks! I had forgotten about the cvs-all target. [additional helpful info snipped] > >> We also have a Subversion repository now, that you can use to grab > >> commit information. It takes slightly more disk space than the CVS > >> repository, but subversion can export XML formatted commit logs, > >> which may be slightly more useful if you plan to automate parts of > >> the parsing and info-gathering. > > > > Yes, I'll definitely be automating the parsing, etc. Is it safe to > > assume that the cvs2svn migration went successfully? XML logs do > > sound appealing and aggregated (same time, multiple files) commits > > would be more useful than per-file. Can I just check everything out > > from svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/? > > The conversion from CVS to Subversion was ``good enough'' from what I > see in the svn commit logs. So it may be a good idea to use `svnsync' > to mirror the /base/ repository locally and take it from there. I installed the subversion-freebsd port and pulled in "src" from "head". This lets me do e.g. "svn log -g --xml" locally and get an XML list of commits along the main (head/current) development line going back to 1993. For files changed with each revision I can do "svn diff -c NUM --summarize". Is there a way to get this information integrated with the "svn log" output short of running the command for each revision in the log output? > The instructions for mirroring the Subversion repository are a bit more > involved, but if you decide to go that way, let me know and I will > write a short description of how to do it. I checked out base/head and am in the process of checking out base/stable so I can get commit data from -STABLE branches as well. (I'll probably figure out when each branch (in CVS terms) was created and then use svn log to just get commits after that date for each branch). I don't know that I need to mirror the whole SVN repository but at this point I am planning on going the SVN route so if you have additional tips they would be appreciated. Thanks! JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 19:17:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD07D1065689 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBC48FC20 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3RJKGpb015341; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:20:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: (from ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3RJKGaK015340; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:20:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: Pieter Donche In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:20:15 +0200 Message-Id: <1240860015.1569.43.camel@pukruppa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: acroread run problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:17:07 -0000 Am Montag, den 27.04.2009, 11:16 +0200 schrieb Pieter Donche: > FreeBSD7/amd64 with linux_base-fc-4_14 Base set of packages needed > in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) > I installed acroread9-9.1.0_2 (no errors) > # cd /usr/ports/print/acroread9 > # make install clean > OK. > > but at > $ acroread & > I get: > > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > (acroread:67581): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > (acroread:67581): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > > (acroread:67581): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules > were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means > there was an error in the creation of: > '/etc/pango/pango.modules' > You may be able to recreate this file by running pango-querymodules. > (acroread:67581): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_engine_shape_shape: assertion `PANGO_IS_FONT (font)' failed > Pango-ERROR **: file shape.c: line 75 (pango_shape): assertion failed: (glyphs->num_glyphs > 0) > aborting... > [1]+ Exit 1 acroread > > I do have: > /usr/compat/linux/etc/pango > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 24 09:51 i686-redhat-linux-gnu > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 11446 Apr 24 09:50 pangox.aliases > Just to check the prerequisites: 1) Do you have linux_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf 2) Do you get # df [...] linprocfs 4 4 0 100% /usr/compat/linux/proc (If not do have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html ) Greetings Uli. > What's wrong and how to remedy ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 19:29:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC491065674 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:29:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C9F8FC17 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FDFEB4EE9; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:29:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156BC4509B; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:29:06 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ggYb5w5Jxpi9; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:29:05 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl137-12.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.8.12]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37E64503F; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:29:05 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3RJT4al038099; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:29:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3RJT3p3038098; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:29:03 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: John Nielsen References: <200904240535.37460.lists@jnielsen.net> <200904271123.32647.lists@jnielsen.net> <87ws963vae.fsf@kobe.laptop> <200904271503.30531.lists@jnielsen.net> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:29:03 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200904271503.30531.lists@jnielsen.net> (John Nielsen's message of "Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:03:30 -0400") Message-ID: <87vdophp4w.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS history access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:29:07 -0000 On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:03:30 -0400, John Nielsen wrote: > I installed the subversion-freebsd port and pulled in "src" from "head". > This lets me do e.g. "svn log -g --xml" locally and get an XML list of > commits along the main (head/current) development line going back to > 1993. > > For files changed with each revision I can do "svn diff -c > NUM --summarize". Is there a way to get this information integrated with > the "svn log" output short of running the command for each revision in > the log output? It's already part of 'svn log --xml' output if you use the -v option. When you use -v *and* --xml at the same time, an additional element is inserted to each changeset listing all the path changes: $ svn log -v --xml -c 191585 file:///home/svn/base rpaulo 2009-04-27T18:59:40.453027Z % % /projects/mesh11s/sys/net80211/ieee80211_output.c % Append Mesh Configuration IE on probe responses and beacons. Sponsored by: The FreeBSD Foundation I think the list of path changes is what you are after :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 19:36:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBBE1065679; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAC98FC33; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [172.17.2.19] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n3RJaMCx044252; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:36:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:36:21 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200904240535.37460.lists@jnielsen.net> <200904271503.30531.lists@jnielsen.net> <87vdophp4w.fsf@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <87vdophp4w.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904271536.21268.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVS history access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:36:23 -0000 On Monday 27 April 2009 03:29:03 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:03:30 -0400, John Nielsen wrote: > > I installed the subversion-freebsd port and pulled in "src" from > > "head". This lets me do e.g. "svn log -g --xml" locally and get an > > XML list of commits along the main (head/current) development line > > going back to 1993. > > > > For files changed with each revision I can do "svn diff -c > > NUM --summarize". Is there a way to get this information integrated > > with the "svn log" output short of running the command for each > > revision in the log output? > > It's already part of 'svn log --xml' output if you use the -v option. > When you use -v *and* --xml at the same time, an additional element is > inserted to each changeset listing all the path changes: > > $ svn log -v --xml -c 191585 file:///home/svn/base > > > revision="191585"> > rpaulo > 2009-04-27T18:59:40.453027Z > % > % % kind="" > % > action="M">/projects/mesh11s/sys/net80211/ieee80211_output.c % > > Append Mesh Configuration IE on probe responses and beacons. > > Sponsored by: The FreeBSD Foundation > > > > > I think the list of path changes is what you are after :) Exactly right. Thanks much! JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 20:17:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9A1106564A for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F263A8FC15 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-27-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.27.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB163D1AF; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:17:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3RKHlEV001570; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:17:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:17:47 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <20090427221747.a2494e6c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090427143043.GE24963@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <49F4ABB3.6000808@prgmr.com> <20090427143043.GE24963@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Michael David Crawford Subject: Re: Partitioning for multiple systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:17:57 -0000 On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:30:43 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:45:07AM -0700, Michael David Crawford wrote: > FreeBSD is not happy with MS 'extended partitions'. But, I don't really > see your problem. You are not using Microsloth for anything. That's why I'm not sure why FAT has been mentioned. As far as I understood, the disk should have three operating systems (Linux, FreeBSD 7, FreeBSD 8) and a partition where all these systems can have a shared mount point for /home. So my idea would be... no, my further questions would be: 1. Can FreeBSD mount -o rw a file system that is usable on Linux, maybe ext2? If yes, use this file system type for the partition that is /home then. 2. Can Linux mount -o rw a file system that is usable on FreeBSD, maybe UFS? If yes, use this file system type for the partition that is /home then. Because the /home partition is not intended to be booted from, it should be possible to add it. > Create your Lunix slice first, then one for FreeBSD 7.2 and finally one > for FreeBSD 8.0. You still logically have one left for something but > it doesn't seem to be needed and neither does a 'logical partition'. Hasn't the fact that Linux needs two primary partitions (one for itself, one for its boot loader) mentioned? > FreeBSD might be able to mount the CENTOS slice stuff if you use > the right type of mount. I don't know about mounting Lunix from FreeBSD. > But, you can't do it the other way (eg mount a FreeBSD type filesystem > from Lunix - though maybe, I have never tried it) That would be the idea. > From FreeBSD you can mount other types of filesystems such as MS > by using the correct mount types. For example, if you want to mount > an MS FAT or FAT32, you use an 'msdosfs' type in your fstab file or > mount_msdosfs(8) utility to do the mount. Do some studying to see > if you can mount any Lunxi type filesystem from FreeBSD. Exactly. Or, if not, maybe it works vice-versa: mounting a FreeBSD partition (within a slice, a "primary partition") from within this Linux. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 20:30:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255971065672 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:30:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B8B8FC22 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-27-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.27.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640A53D1D9; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:30:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3RKUKVY001598; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:30:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:30:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: beni@brinckman.info Message-Id: <20090427223019.990c4165.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200904272024.54590.beni@brinckman.info> References: <200904261706.59497.beni@brinckman.info> <20090426193207.5c27c614.freebsd@edvax.de> <200904272024.54590.beni@brinckman.info> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:30:27 -0000 On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:24:53 +0200, beni wrote: > On Sunday 26 April 2009 19:32:07 Polytropon wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:06:58 +0200, beni wrote: > > > Why should a graphical installer have less functionality ? > > > hasn't been claimed. GUI installer just requires more resources, > > more overhead. > > Why should a GUI need more functionality than a text based installer ? Hasn't been claimed, too. > Why > can't both have the same functionality ? A GUI installer is acceptable as long as it has AT LEAST the functionalities that the respective (existing) text mode installer already has. If it offers additional functionalities, well, fine, but it shouldn't be limited. > But why should a GUI be less functional ? I don't see why ! A GUI *IS* less functional if implemented poorly, that's the point. It's not better or worse per se. Keep in mind that it has - by definition - another playing field, so a GUI installer cannot be handled via serial console, and cannot be used by blind users. > I'm not a sysadmin, indeed. But it should surprise me a lot if a admin who has > to, as you say yourself, keep every server running, need to (re)install a lot > of servers on a regular basis. Then there is something seriously wrong. It was > my believe that a server needs to be kept running, not being reinstalled twice > a week (with or without a GUI installer). Exactly. That's why I mentioned that an installer is a very important piece of software, but you don't use it day by day. You only use it occassionally, but in such a situation, it has to offer the functionalities needed and a predictable way of working. > And so a desktop user has to do it with the prehistoric sysinstall... And I > don't value an OS by its installer, but as a desktop user I think I have > already done a bit of (re)installations, be it debian, ubuntu, suse, or > Micros~1 in different flavors. Another polite question: What makes you believe that a GUI installer for FreeBSD - if it existed - would work (read: look and feel) exactly the same as the installers you already know from various Linusi or "Windows"? Maybe a different approach (other than "next, next, next, yes, okay, next, next, reboot) is taken? It's at least possible... > > As I explained in an earlier post: If the GUI installer is > > (a) not the only way, (b) not an auto-default, (c) does work > > well enough even on older hardware and (d) doesn't make things > > more complicated, I wouldn't have any problem with it, I would > > even use it! > > Nice to hear it :-) Me too ! I have some experience with PC-BSD and DesktopBSD. Their installers behave the way MICROS~1 users would expect them to work, and I think most Linusi (with GUI installers) do work the same way. > A pc-bsd is installed in what, 5 or 6 clics (if it is that much). Same for > windows [...] Hahaha! :-) > [...] or ubuntu. Text based installation takes more time i think. Finetuning > and installing programs afterwards takes more time, but that is the same for > all those OS'es, no ? No. The installer of FreeBSD lets you do much more than those "5 click installers". This is neccessary because FreeBSD is, as I already mentioned, a multi-purpose OS that can be run on a server, a desktop, or a mixed form. Because there are not hundreds of different distributions aiming at different groups of users, the installer has to offer everything that is needed - by the desktop user and by the server admin. So, of couse, yes, things are more detailed, more complex. But if you're intending to run FreeBSD anyway, that isn't a problem. Maybe a FreeBSD installer could be implemented with "5 times pressing the ENTER key", but it would imply that there are many decisions to be taken away from the user and substituted by default values, such as: - wipe the entire disk - create one slice with one / partition - put everything into the partition - install everything from the CD - install all services - start all services You know where this is going... > So I think we will agree to disagree... And this is my receipt for your receipt. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 20:40:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FCE106567A for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3068FC1D for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-27-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.27.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729013D217; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:40:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3RKeaIU001621; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:40:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:40:35 +0200 From: Polytropon To: beni@brinckman.info Message-Id: <20090427224035.63792f6b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200904272033.47390.beni@brinckman.info> References: <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> <49F4A3D8.3090106@gothic-chat.de> <200904272033.47390.beni@brinckman.info> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:40:44 -0000 On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:33:46 +0200, beni wrote: > What is wrong with fancy functional ? The two can go together I think. Show me one example from the PC world. > For you > it may not be, but I would like it to be for me. And as to now, I don't have > any choice : there is no fancy, easy, nice, modern and accessable installer. You're mixing terminology again. "Modern"... okay, we already stated that this is depending on defintion. "Accessible"... how accessible is a GUI installer via a serial line or by a blind user? > So why don't use a text mode for server and a GUI for desktop ? Because FreeBSD is for both servers and desktops and mixed forms, and you cannot determine from the hardware present what form the user wants to install, or where the form will develop into. That's why a choice at a very early stage of the installation would be needed, and its default should be fail-safe, read: text mode is default, GUI when ordered. > Oh so all those desktopusers with Gnome/KDE/... will gladly hear this ! As a > desktopuser I can't be a professional who wants a perfectly working system ? > Thanks. Terminology again. What do you understand by "professional"? But let this not be our topic. The point is that many ways of operating and administrating a system highly depend on the knowledge, the experience and the intelligency of the user, as well as on his attitude towards learning things. PC-BSD and DesktopBSD to the right thing for those "lazy" guys: Most things are preconfigured and work out of the box, and when you need configuration changes, there are GUI tools for it. As long as you're fine with this setting, you won't have ANY problem. > Even with pc-bsd not all my hardware is recognized > now. That's not PC-BSD's fault. > But if you want something that works for everyone, I don't think that > *bsd or linux is something for you. There is NO thing that works for everyone, a one size fits all egg-laying wool milk sow; in Germany, we call this "eierlegende Wollmilchsau", a device (or system) that does everything under any circumstances, for everyone. People are different, that's why there are many ways to go for them to choose from. In the past, I chose DOS for some things, OS/ES for others, and later on, Linux; today, FreeBSD is my choice. I can't tell what I will use in the future, because I don't know my requirements of tomorrow. Things may change. FreeBSD is an operating system that has so much potential, and can be used in many different fields of work (and play, and entertainment, and learning). One of the reasons it's so versatile is the fact that it runs on minimum conditions, still offering the whole power. You run the same OS on a 150 MHz P1 as you run on a 5 million GHz Uber-server. THAT is modern. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 20:57:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DF81065678 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from proxy1.bredband.net (proxy1.bredband.net [195.54.101.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4A18FC13 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from ironport.bredband.com (195.54.101.120) by proxy1.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 49F5A15200031592 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:57:58 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvQFAH259UlV44BwPGdsb2JhbACBUJUKAQEBAbdWg3QF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,256,1238968800"; d="scan'208";a="510375863" Received: from c-7080e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO trapper.homedns.org) ([85.227.128.112]) by ironport1.bredband.com with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2009 22:57:57 +0200 Message-ID: <49F61C54.1020404@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:57:56 +0200 From: Rolf G Nielsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090405) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> <49F4A3D8.3090106@gothic-chat.de> <200904272033.47390.beni@brinckman.info> <20090427224035.63792f6b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090427224035.63792f6b.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:57:59 -0000 Polytropon wrote: <...> > > There is NO thing that works for everyone, a one size fits all > egg-laying wool milk sow; in Germany, we call this "eierlegende > Wollmilchsau", a device (or system) that does everything under > any circumstances, for everyone. > > People are different, that's why there are many ways to go for > them to choose from. In the past, I chose DOS for some things, > OS/ES for others, and later on, Linux; today, FreeBSD is my > choice. I can't tell what I will use in the future, because > I don't know my requirements of tomorrow. > > Things may change. FreeBSD is an operating system that has > so much potential, and can be used in many different fields > of work (and play, and entertainment, and learning). > > One of the reasons it's so versatile is the fact that it runs > on minimum conditions, still offering the whole power. You > run the same OS on a 150 MHz P1 as you run on a 5 million GHz > Uber-server. THAT is modern. :-) > > Well said. As I've come to expect from Polyptron. And by that, I hope this godforsaken discussion has come to an end. As there's no such thing as an "eierlegende Wollmilchsau", there will always be people who object, no matter how things are done, and I cannot see the point in continuing this any further. -- Rolf Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 21:02:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FECB106566C for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4778FC15 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-27-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.27.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE5D3D38C; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:02:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3RL2T8q001696; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:02:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:02:29 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <20090427230229.049c5f9e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090427133937.GA24963@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EA95@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <20090427133937.GA24963@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr, Gary Gatten , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, tajudd@gmail.com Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:02:36 -0000 On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:39:38 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > I have done hundreds of installations and still > find times that I want more information in the middle of things. That > is especially true if I try to add some packages at install time. I agree with this. That's why I always included a F1 Help in my "paintings" of how an improvement of the text mode installer (and a possible GUI installer) should go. Another idea would be to add something of value to the help text. Let it be not only an explaination, but a suggestion, just like "if you have ... then consider using ...; if you want to use ..., then you better set ... and ...". An addition that comes to my mind right now would be a kind of autodetection of existing operating systems on the disk, which obsoletes (or easyfies) the boot manager dialog. For example, if FreeBSD is the only OS, the default choice would surely be "install FreeBSD's MBR", so the only OS will boot. If there are other OSes, the boot manager could be suggested. This idea continues into a "autodetect for partition editor", which could look like this: ____ automount ____ Device Mountpoint No R/O R/W Explaination /dev/ad0s1a / [ ] [ ] [x] FreeBSD's root /dev/ad0s1d /tmp [ ] [ ] [x] Temporary files /dev/ad0s1e /var [ ] [ ] [x] Stuff /dev/ad0s1f /usr [ ] [ ] [x] Much more stuff /dev/ad0s1g /home [ ] [ ] [x] Your stuff ---------------- other than FreeBSD --------------- /dev/ad2s1 /blabla [ ] [x] [ ] Linux stuff /dev/ad2s2 /foobar [x] [ ] [ ] FAT32 I've excluded options like "format yes/no" and file system type for easyfication. :-) The idea would be that /etc/fstab would be populated with everything that exist, keeping the default that noauto is chosen, and -o ro, unless the user specifies something else on his own risk. And again, a multi-lingual installer is an idea. In fact, it's NOT an idea, because - and I may speak only based on my experiences in my home country - those who install FreeBSD are familiar with the english language, and those who are not familiar with the english language wouldn't even know FreeBSD. :-) > But, I agree that we must not give up on a 'text based' installer that > is the most generally usable, even if some other options might be made > available. The text based installer could also be massaged a bit > to make it a little easier to understand as well, without losing its > functionality. Completely agree. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 21:10:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F76106567B for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB9D8FC26 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n3RLA6wb026813; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:10:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n3RLA6H2026812; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:10:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:10:06 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: beni Message-ID: <20090427211005.GA26754@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> <49F4A3D8.3090106@gothic-chat.de> <200904272033.47390.beni@brinckman.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200904272033.47390.beni@brinckman.info> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:10:31 -0000 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 08:33:46PM +0200, beni wrote: > On Sunday 26 April 2009 20:11:36 Neo [GC] wrote: > > Just my two cents: > > > > Why a graphical installer? Shure, it looks nice, easy, modern and more > > accessable (examples: Mac OS X, Vista), but on the other hand, for me > > FreeBSD never was intended to be fancy, but to be functional. > > What is wrong with fancy functional ? The two can go together I think. > For you it may not be, but I would like it to be for me. And as to now, > I don't have any choice : there is no fancy, easy, nice, modern and > accessable installer. You are missing the two key things that have been said. First, that a GUI installer will not work on many systems that FreeBSD powers and in some circumstances for which it is used. Those in particular are headless servers - a major use of FreeBSD - and where it is being used by persons who need special communication tools such as the blind. So, for those large number of cases a text based installer needs to be retained, though if someone were able to improve it in some way, that would be OK. Second, that no one objects to a parallel installer being made available as long as it is not the default and as long as it does not squeeze out the text based installer. The only problem here is finding someone or some group to work on it. Most FreeBSD developers see other issues as higher priority concerns and will be putting their effort in to those concerns rather than in to a GUI installer. So, don't try to make an argument that doesn't exist. Nobody minds if you write a fantastic GUI installer and submit it for inclusion as long as it works well and doesn't eclipse other necessities. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 21:22:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96DE106566B for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4CC8FC08 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n3RLMJWV026910; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:22:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n3RLMJwB026909; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:22:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:22:19 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090427212219.GC26754@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <49F4ABB3.6000808@prgmr.com> <20090427143043.GE24963@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20090427221747.a2494e6c.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090427221747.a2494e6c.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Michael David Crawford Subject: Re: Partitioning for multiple systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:22:44 -0000 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:17:47PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:30:43 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:45:07AM -0700, Michael David Crawford wrote: > > FreeBSD is not happy with MS 'extended partitions'. But, I don't really > > see your problem. You are not using Microsloth for anything. > > That's why I'm not sure why FAT has been mentioned. As far as The FAT (more likely FAT32) can be the filesystem type that each of the OSen can read/write. I occasionally make one for scratch space that more than one OS on a machine can access. > I understood, the disk should have three operating systems > (Linux, FreeBSD 7, FreeBSD 8) and a partition where all these > systems can have a shared mount point for /home. > > So my idea would be... no, my further questions would be: > 1. Can FreeBSD mount -o rw a file system that is usable > on Linux, maybe ext2? If yes, use this file system type > for the partition that is /home then. > 2. Can Linux mount -o rw a file system that is usable > on FreeBSD, maybe UFS? If yes, use this file system type > for the partition that is /home then. > > Because the /home partition is not intended to be booted > from, it should be possible to add it. > > > Create your Lunix slice first, then one for FreeBSD 7.2 and finally one > > for FreeBSD 8.0. You still logically have one left for something but > > it doesn't seem to be needed and neither does a 'logical partition'. > > Hasn't the fact that Linux needs two primary partitions > (one for itself, one for its boot loader) mentioned? I thought that the fancy MBR went in the extra track space beyond that official single sector that almost no one actually uses any more. I haven't heard of that. The RHEL and SUSE installs I did recently did not look like they were using two primaries. But I didn't make a point of looking for that, so I am not sure. ////jerry > > FreeBSD might be able to mount the CENTOS slice stuff if you use > > the right type of mount. I don't know about mounting Lunix from FreeBSD. > > But, you can't do it the other way (eg mount a FreeBSD type filesystem > > from Lunix - though maybe, I have never tried it) > > That would be the idea. > > > > > From FreeBSD you can mount other types of filesystems such as MS > > by using the correct mount types. For example, if you want to mount > > an MS FAT or FAT32, you use an 'msdosfs' type in your fstab file or > > mount_msdosfs(8) utility to do the mount. Do some studying to see > > if you can mount any Lunxi type filesystem from FreeBSD. > > Exactly. Or, if not, maybe it works vice-versa: mounting a > FreeBSD partition (within a slice, a "primary partition") > from within this Linux. > > > > > -- > Polytropon > From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 21:55:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE102106566C for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:55:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93F38FC08 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:55:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIS008H5229QLO0@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49F61BB2.8070009@videotron.ca> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:55:14 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: switch keyboards X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:55:32 -0000 Can't find anything on setting up a correct fr_CA keyboard or keymapping or switching from en_US <---> fr_CA for FreeBSD 7.1 and xorg. What I have found only set up an incorrect french-someting-or-other keyboard which almost prevented me from logging in because of a missing character in the mapping. Somebody out there is permanently out to lunch. The true fr_CA keyboard is an elegant way of using both English and French characters on one keyboard. It works beautifully on an XP. Is there any reason why it shouldn't on FreeBSD & xorg. BTW, I use fluxbox as wm and have no interest in either gnome or the k guy. Est-ce qu'il y a une solution pour cette anomalie? -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 21:55:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F001065675 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:55:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059678FC0C for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3RLuZQc070985 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:56:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:55:28 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090427215525.GA50048@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:55:33 -0000 hey guys, i just found OOo.Math. since i did all my math in college on an electric typewriter, this new find would've been a serious ++win. but ok, where is the "INSERT"? also, now that i've got OOo-3.0.1 installed, how do I pkg_delete 2.4.1 safely? i don't want to mess up my old 2.4 .files.... tia, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 23:21:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16881065672 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6D08FC0A for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3RNM8Si071637 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:22:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:21:01 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090427232058.GA63884@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:21:07 -0000 --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline if anybody had OOO math 3.0.1 installed, they can see one of my favoriite equations. :-) -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.41a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 27 23:59:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93CE106566C for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135268FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3RNxiNv002369; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:59:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E451ABA8B; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:59:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:59:43 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Ghirai Message-ID: <20090427235943.GA35509@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090427191824.25e415e4.ghirai@ghirai.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090427191824.25e415e4.ghirai@ghirai.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: quick vfs tuning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:59:51 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 07:18:24PM +0300, Ghirai wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I'm running a RAID1 setup with gmirror and geli (AES-128) on top of > that. > While searching for ways to improve read performance, i found some > posts (on kerneltrap i think) about vfs.max_read. >=20 > The author suggested that increasing the default value of 8 to 16 > resulted in increased read speed, and that increasing it further > resulted in no noticeable performance gain. >=20 > Results are below. >=20 > Starting with vfs.read_max=3D32: >=20 > triton# dd if=3Da.iso of=3D/dev/null bs=3D3M > 1129+1 records in > 1129+1 records out > 3554287616 bytes transferred in 176.825898 secs (20100492 bytes/sec) >=20 > triton# sysctl vfs.read_max=3D64 > vfs.read_max: 32 -> 64 >=20 > triton# dd if=3Da.iso of=3D/dev/null bs=3D3M > 1129+1 records in > 1129+1 records out > 3554287616 bytes transferred in 162.943189 secs (21813048 bytes/sec) >=20 > triton# sysctl vfs.read_max=3D128 > vfs.read_max: 64 -> 128 >=20 > triton# dd if=3Da.iso of=3D/dev/null bs=3D3M > 1129+1 records in > 1129+1 records out > 3554287616 bytes transferred in 149.313994 secs (23804116 bytes/sec) >=20 > triton# sysctl vfs.read_max=3D256 > vfs.read_max: 128 -> 256 >=20 > triton# dd if=3Da.iso of=3D/dev/null bs=3D3M > 1129+1 records in > 1129+1 records out > 3554287616 bytes transferred in 150.466241 secs (23621828 bytes/sec) >=20 > Here is seems to have hit a wall. Going a bit down to 192 results in > almost exactly the same numbers, so the best value seems to be 128. > As i read, vfs.read_max means 'cluster read-ahead max block count'. > Does it read ahead the stuff into some memory? If so, can that memory > size be increased via sysctl? IIRC, if it gets a read request, it reads vfs.read_max extra clusters into the vfs cache, to improve subsequent reads. This won't do much if you're reading a lot of small files scattered around the disk. =20 > Does the improvement in performance have to do with my particular setup > (gmirror+geli)? In my experience, gmirror is slow (see below). If you have multiple cores, = geli isn't much of an issue. On a single-core machine it can become a bottleneck. > I thought i'd share the results and maybe get a discussion going in > this direction. >=20 > Test was done on a pair of SATA300 HDs spinning at 7200rmp (which are > seen as SATA150 by the OS for some reason; i couldn't fix it from the > BIOS, so it must be the mobo), and 7.1-RELEASE, i386. It doesn't matter much if your disk is seen as SATA 1.5 Gbit/s or 3 Gbit/s. A current rotating harddisk cannot max out a SATA 1.5 Gbit/s connection, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA] (A flash-based drive can, though). - Intel ICH7 SATA 3Gbit/s controller - WDC WD5001ABYS-01YNA0 (500,107,862,016 bytes) - FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE amd64 - no mirroring or encryption on this partition. My results: sysctl vfs.read_max=3D8 dd if=3D/tmp/var-0-20090426.dump of=3D/dev/null bs=3D3M 69+1 records in 69+1 records out 217405440 bytes transferred in 2.762058 secs (78,711,395 bytes/sec) (I added the commas to the bytes/sec figure for readability) Try it again: dd if=3D/tmp/var-0-20090426.dump of=3D/dev/null bs=3D3M 69+1 records in 69+1 records out 217405440 bytes transferred in 0.119592 secs (1,817,893,575 bytes/sec) This large figure on the second try is probably an effect of the disk's and/or vfs cache! All following reads are done after another huge file was read to try and eliminate cache effect. sysctl vfs.read_max=3D16 dd if=3D/tmp/usr-0-20090426.dump.bz2 of=3D/dev/null bs=3D3M 728+1 records in 728+1 records out 2292555598 bytes transferred in 29.368194 secs (78,062,532 bytes/sec) sysctl vfs.read_max=3D32 dd if=3D/tmp/root-0-20090426.dump of=3D/dev/null bs=3D3M 32+1 records in 32+1 records out 101068800 bytes transferred in 1.276318 secs (79,187,799 bytes/sec) sysctl vfs.read_max=3D64 dd if=3D/tmp/usr-0-20090426.dump of=3D/dev/null bs=3D3M 1753+1 records in 1753+1 records out 5516308480 bytes transferred in 70.226765 secs (78,549,944 bytes/sec) sysctl vfs.read_max=3D128 dd if=3D/tmp/usr-0-20090426.dump of=3D/dev/null bs=3D3M 1753+1 records in 1753+1 records out 5516308480 bytes transferred in 71.032365 secs (77,659,085 bytes/sec) So, for large reads not much difference. vfs.read_max=3D32 looks best. Let's try a smaller block size. sysctl vfs.read_max=3D8 dd if=3D/tmp/root-0-20090426.dump of=3D/dev/null bs=3D256k 385+1 records in 385+1 records out 101068800 bytes transferred in 1.391538 secs (72,631,008 bytes/sec) sysctl vfs.read_max=3D16 dd if=3D/tmp/usr-0-20090426.dump.bz2 of=3D/dev/null bs=3D256k 8745+1 records in 8745+1 records out 2292555598 bytes transferred in 29.736135 secs (77,096,623 bytes/sec) sysctl vfs.read_max=3D32 dd if=3D/tmp/var-0-20090426.dump of=3D/dev/null bs=3D256k 829+1 records in 829+1 records out 217405440 bytes transferred in 2.753552 secs (78,954,544 bytes/sec) sysctl vfs.read_max=3D64 dd if=3D/tmp/usr-0-20090426.dump of=3D/dev/null bs=3D256k 21043+1 records in 21043+1 records out 5516308480 bytes transferred in 71.165780 secs (77,513,497 bytes/sec) sysctl vfs.read_max=3D256 dd if=3D/tmp/var-0-20090426.dump of=3D/dev/null bs=3D256k 829+1 records in 829+1 records out 217405440 bytes transferred in 2.751325 secs (79,018,447 bytes/sec) So for this partition, vfs.read_max=3D32 seems to be optimal. Negligable CP= U load. Now, reading from a GELI encrypted partition: sysctl vfs.read_max=3D32 dd if=3Dusr-0-20090426.dump.bz2 of=3D/dev/null bs=3D256k 6572+1 records in 6572+1 records out 1722903675 bytes transferred in 22.951109 secs (75,068,428 bytes/sec) CPU load on Core2 Quad Q9300 is hovering at around 25-30%. sysctl vfs.read_max=3D64 dd if=3Dfilm.avi of=3D/dev/null bs=3D256k 2703+1 records in 2703+1 records out 708665574 bytes transferred in 9.892170 secs (71,639,042 bytes/sec) sysctl vfs.read_max=3D256 dd if=3Dfilm2.avi of=3D/dev/null bs=3D256k 3057+1 records in 3057+1 records out 801435148 bytes transferred in 11.061225 secs (72,454,466 bytes/sec) Again, vfs.read_max=3D32 seems about right. I dropped gmirror in favor of running an rsync to the second disk at night because gmirror is kinda slow. I saw the same performance as you did with the combination of gmirror and geli. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkn2Ru8ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyU2IgCgkPWfsM5wo4tHYKHqBER00R7O XYUAn2PQX908uErSvTenm235+Z7IMITc =SVfL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 00:05:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600E6106567D for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neo@gothic-chat.de) Received: from gothnet.eu (srv1.gothnet.eu [83.133.111.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D778FC0C for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:05:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neo@gothic-chat.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothnet.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24BB33C93; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:05:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gothnet.eu Received: from gothnet.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gothnet.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kqhE1mHKME+R; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:05:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.4] (p57986493.dip.t-dialin.net [87.152.100.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: neo) by gothnet.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DBB2433C92; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:05:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49F6482C.2050302@gothic-chat.de> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:05:00 +0200 From: "Neo [GC]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; de; rv:1.8.0.10) Gecko/20070221 Thunderbird/1.5.0.10 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> <49F4A3D8.3090106@gothic-chat.de> <200904272033.47390.beni@brinckman.info> <20090427211005.GA26754@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20090427211005.GA26754@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:05:09 -0000 Jerry McAllister schrieb: > Second, that no one objects to a parallel installer being made available > as long as it is not the default and as long as it does not squeeze out > the text based installer. The only problem here is finding someone > or some group to work on it. Most FreeBSD developers see other issues > as higher priority concerns and will be putting their effort in to those > concerns rather than in to a GUI installer. > ACK. No one really _needs_ a GUI installer, there are far more important tasks to do. > So, don't try to make an argument that doesn't exist. Nobody minds > if you write a fantastic GUI installer and submit it for inclusion as > long as it works well and doesn't eclipse other necessities. > ACK too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 00:05:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DAB41065677 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vvv25c@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C108FC15 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vvv25c@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so243920ewy.43 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:05:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=DIbY7Bs4VFpnrUQkEP5UBS3svHQI5pIRKXocAhn+PMs=; b=VYVUHk753IPmrrRGKp++4x1Wakseb6LTHqfhqHlGStPSLeMvl8RC8MhYDNgl1hBJ7Y 0fYWUXVV1pZ0t/LrgmWgb86Hx7Qv/f54zSbt05OntX5FCSc8cYdPb1w2TCO9Dmu3g2QD CtPjrbhxiNH1IeP0nI0uYUy31/xXqtazxbQ+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JYOws3+bOWpYkgoh76HnUqzBGLfl/1MCyM7uhcgn9Ey90ejQld2hOzzhxKkwQsv1Qj gF302NxXzAVJw8sGGtMJpLSmHSKXzkg0NPH+eeT4br3pZKDrN1FUfRgKXSmOprgOk6x2 afOQ7TEh41Qf7C1YKeNcQNTfXxtYE5TnHNpN0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.129.19 with SMTP id b19mr4635900ebd.28.1240875451462; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:37:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: Angela To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: bind sdb using ldap: load zone creating database failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:05:31 -0000 Hi Richard VENNE, *I have the same problem you describe in the thread "bind sdb using ldap: load zone creating database failure". I saw that you replied and said that you got it. Can you post the solution on how you solve this problem. I'm new to the list and don't know how to reply directly to your post. thanks. * From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 03:29:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1D51065670 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vvv25c@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07D78FC0C for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vvv25c@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so295602ewy.43 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:28:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=UIJPvCD+vAJVJSXL8jepnHhFzAAL+Z/9FeAPyyrIgVw=; b=gsy/BuzfmbQkPXlbdeTJMer/XgA93M01MNAJ/ufPR+XYIKNJjiSEbK9vQPCUcPFozd y38G5wWGnJOEdv+N51P4nX/Fq186iRum4SrrohaI2HKAGBBtxlTsBx5InBpy0/U0STmS xISfnFpkfF53MF2smjt2xALdQHQ9IeusIzgWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kcSRFGZS3FF+vIY6mEKcPSavi+yU1KrJwieBpaSI0lGDXSUdWrxJAqgFvWf4d8kELM yJEdx8HWbFPfSlm4i2Rqk+KJaVFBPiTAS+DvCWqyd79RFT8S4kM+c2Bd104hj3XoAp2L VyLWA8yyym33E5njN2fhL0Rnku99z/3kqye74= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.136.10 with SMTP id j10mr3636438ebd.93.1240889339815; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:28:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: Angela To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: bind-sdb ldap loading zone: creating database: failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:29:01 -0000 Have anyone been able to successfully setup bind-sdb with ldap backend? I've tried for couple days without luck! I have a fully working ldap server, and a working traditional bind/dns setup. I installed bind-sdb (rpm package); changed my named.conf according to the docs; but I am not able to get the bind-sdb to connnect to my ldap server. Below is my named.conf: .... cut ... zone "example.com" IN { type master; database "ldap ldap:// 127.0.0.1/zoneName=example.com,ou=dns,dc=mydomain,dc=com"; }; zone "1.168.192.in-addr.arpa" IN { type master; database "ldap ldap:// 127.0.0.1/zoneName=1.168.192.in-addr.arpa,ou=dns,dc=mydomain,dc=com"; }; When I start named-sdb (bind-sdb), its log shows it loaded the db-drivers fine ... .... cut ... 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.884 starting BIND 9.5.0b2 -d 3 -u named -g 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.888 found 1 CPU, using 1 worker thread 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.930 Registering DLZ postgres driver. 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.930 Registering SDLZ driver 'postgres' 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.930 Registering DLZ driver 'postgres' 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.931 Registering DLZ mysql driver. 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.931 Registering SDLZ driver 'mysql' 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.931 Registering DLZ driver 'mysql' 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.931 Registering DLZ filesystem driver. 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.931 Registering SDLZ driver 'filesystem' 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.931 Registering DLZ driver 'filesystem' 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.931 Registering DLZ ldap driver. 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.931 Registering SDLZ driver 'ldap' 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.932 Registering DLZ driver 'ldap' 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.932 Registering DLZ odbc driver. 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.932 Registering SDLZ driver 'odbc' 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.932 Registering DLZ driver 'odbc' 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.932 SDB ldap zone database module loaded. 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.932 SDB postgreSQL DB zone database module loaded. 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.932 SDB sqlite3 DB zone database module loaded. 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.932 SDB directory DB zone database module loaded. 27-Apr-2009 22:19:15.942 loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf' .... cut ... BUT, when it gets to loading zone "example.com", it logged: 27-Apr-2009 22:19:16.005 zone gis.com/IN: loading zone: creating database: failure Same failure for ARPA of zone gis.com/IN: 27-Apr-2009 22:19:16.003 zone 1.168.192.in-addr.arpa/IN: loading zone: creating database: failure I checked my LDAP server's log and NO contact attemp was made by named-sdb (bind-sdb). I can retrieve my LDAP's zone entries fine with ldapsearch. ??? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 05:44:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0EBE106566C for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:44:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (macos.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C84A8FC25 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:44:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3S5iHD5067836; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:44:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id n3S5iHBM067833; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:44:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) X-Authentication-Warning: macos.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:44:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be To: Peter Ulrich Kruppa In-Reply-To: <1240860015.1569.43.camel@pukruppa.net> Message-ID: References: <1240860015.1569.43.camel@pukruppa.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: acroread run problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:44:20 -0000 Hi, yes I do have in my /etc/rc.conf linux_enable="YES" > 2) Do you get > # df > [...] > linprocfs 4 4 0 100% /usr/compat/linux/proc No, this I do not have, but I wonder what that is ... I find nothing about linprocfs in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html I also checked (from that book chapter 10.2) # kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 7 0xffffffff80100000 ac7708 kernel 2 1 0xffffffffb08e0000 18aea linux.ko 3 1 0xffffffffb09cb000 496 star_saver.ko Also, I have a another PC with FreeBSD7 (i386) with Acrobat Reader 7.0 (/usr/local/bin/acroread) which works and there I do not not have a "linprocfs ..." in a df output... On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: > Am Montag, den 27.04.2009, 11:16 +0200 schrieb Pieter Donche: >> FreeBSD7/amd64 with linux_base-fc-4_14 Base set of packages needed >> in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) >> I installed acroread9-9.1.0_2 (no errors) >> # cd /usr/ports/print/acroread9 >> # make install clean >> OK. >> >> but at >> $ acroread & >> I get: >> >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >> (acroread:67581): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >> (acroread:67581): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >> >> (acroread:67581): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules >> were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means >> there was an error in the creation of: >> '/etc/pango/pango.modules' >> You may be able to recreate this file by running pango-querymodules. >> (acroread:67581): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_engine_shape_shape: assertion `PANGO_IS_FONT (font)' failed >> Pango-ERROR **: file shape.c: line 75 (pango_shape): assertion failed: (glyphs->num_glyphs > 0) >> aborting... >> [1]+ Exit 1 acroread >> >> I do have: >> /usr/compat/linux/etc/pango >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 24 09:51 i686-redhat-linux-gnu >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 11446 Apr 24 09:50 pangox.aliases >> > Just to check the prerequisites: > 1) Do you have > linux_enable="YES" > in your /etc/rc.conf > 2) Do you get > # df > [...] > linprocfs 4 4 0 100% /usr/compat/linux/proc > > (If not do have a look at > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html ) > > Greetings > > Uli. > >> What's wrong and how to remedy ? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 06:54:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C341065674 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A438FC0C for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67E97E837; Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:54:54 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:54:52 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904280854.53179.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Anton Yuzhaninov Subject: Re: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:54:56 -0000 On Monday 27 April 2009 20:19:33 Anton Yuzhaninov wrote: > On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:28:01 -0400, Maxim Khitrov wrote: > MK> I'm setting up a firewall and would like to monitor certain system > MK> parameters like network, cpu, and memory usage. SNMP is an obvious > MK> choice to do the monitoring and I'm planning to set up rrdtool to > MK> generate graphs of captured data. The question is what SNMP agent to > MK> use. I found net-snmp and bsnmpd (which is included in the base > MK> system). Has anyone here used both implementations, and if so, what > MK> are the basic differences? > > main difference is the set of supported MIBs. > > In general net-snmp supports more MIBs than bsnmpd. > > E. g. BEGEMOT-PF-MIB supported only by bsnmpd and useful for monitoring > pf(4), UCD-SNMP-MIB supported only by net-snmp and useful for monitoring > CPU load (ssCpuRaw* counters). There is the GoC 2008 project: % cat /usr/ports/net-mgmt/bsnmp-ucd/pkg-descr bsnmp-ucd is a module for bsnmpd which allows you to get memory, load average, cpu utilization and other system statistics. It implements parts of UCD-SNMP-MIB for this. WWW: http://bsnmp-ucd.googlecode.com/ Author: Mikolaj Golub Maybe if more people started testing/using this, it could some day be in base. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 07:34:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3E7106566B for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from farremosen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1645B8FC08 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:34:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from farremosen@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so359365ewy.43 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:34:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4rxXl16PSq4fkC9ChFpDFy99pF6t7ulxnHb+H/7VRH8=; b=x2h175VTRugrqrYcV9o3uZ7e4+o1ziYOPN+tzj7i2E4MEwpY5QyyUGrewmI5w2Y2+a BNv5rCFVWdopWRWSOQxJfzHxyM4hLL6d5+YDqQZHUGJ0fDWRAC3yNraMxQ1uvk0RT9iH k6qtjrSMRbsu7FTnm0KAYxA9hflJYBrKLS4DQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=mnOdifBAw/5tBjylQB0Ezo/4P7OcP9qk45GurOtbcdKRWPcaOATAPSRoavsTUKw1wb czH1LDHVP71Hm7zLBEvw2dZuQr8ktbegfrJw251u1i+mXCQ+kDzkoA0jzq/OMetAPogD RDh8LzqTJgO0pbEusyLrqm4OqKnGwx8WrxX3I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.20.74 with SMTP id o52mr739055weo.147.1240902769811; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:12:49 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Klaus_Friis_=D8stergaard?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ruby18 or Portupgrade error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:34:46 -0000 Hi, While upgrade gnome I have run into to this error, is it related to portupgrade or Ruby18 or something different. kfo@prod01% sudo portupgrade -aOW -x x11/gdm /home/kfo mktemp: mkdtemp failed on /var/tmp/portupgradedtlzuto6: Too many links /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgmisc.rb:140:in `init_tmpdir': Could not create temporary directory in /var/tmp (RuntimeError) from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgtools.rb:260:in `init_pkgtools_global' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:529:in `main' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:787:in `initialize' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `new' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `main' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:2208 kfo@prod01% /home/kfo I am not experience any other problems on the system. I have tried to csup and manually done make deisntall and make install of both portupgrade and ruby18. It seems that I something are able to run portupgrade right after Reboot, but second time or is not run right after reboot this failure occure. Any help apriciated. /Klaus From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 08:22:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFEE106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8388FC16 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so317216qwe.7 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:22:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=nu+klGRb85IBmaWaq4PkV4LTeAhC9IFtITPNy+FoPew=; b=AuxE66Qee5TbhJxr7AKLxjXehBn3fbPIzQgFNV/5T+2D/L1wwzRJipAmLyiacILbkc e44PkSuQOZEvZfs2t7/4ZNjT8gtwTLYHDlC3GBBCoRDWQwLj8i+1jek/SmqizE4UA3In FJ1yVT0QGsfovk24x+QAIuyQGhKSHVxPPtxJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=RVg8FXpVVqxvym9L98CqC7KwK3chkRgmbY6/PoPI9BO7Dsi6y8WrHzxwknStduMdOQ IzAvM+UFrRRRZehMQm/aWoQ7pfAGieiBelY1v6aUOvjalWELnuCje5BKlsIzN/hlqGe8 HMCj1ddg4qPF0Fc8uevUveztWF8IVaqmwT0Qc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.94.147 with SMTP id z19mr3399115qcm.34.1240906954882; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:22:34 +0200 Message-ID: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> From: VeeJay To: FreeBSD-Questions , VeeJay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:22:36 -0000 Hello guys and gurus I am keep getting this error after a while "*1135: Can't create a new thread (errno 35); if you are not out of available memory, you can consult the manual for a possible OS-dependent bug*" Even though, I have 16GB memory and 32GB swap. But mysqlserver stops answering. Could you please help me to fix this problem? I am running FreeBSD on a Dell PowerEdge 2950 III having 2 x CPU 3,0 GHz Intel Xeon L5450 Quad-Core 2x6MB cache WITH 16 GB RAM Here is a snapshot from using top to have a overview of system resources... last pid: 27056; load averages: 1.05, 1.04, 1.01 up 3+16:22:44 09:01:53 3038 processes:2 running, 3036 sleeping CPU: 12.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.1% system, 0.0% interrupt, 87.4% idle Mem: 6237M Active, 4005M Inact, 925M Wired, 40K Cache, 214M Buf, 4491M Free Swap: 32G Total, 32G Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 3010 mysql 1500 51 0 1643M 822M ucond 2 0:01 100.00% mysqld 27030 sshUser 1 44 0 16304K 8316K CPU0 0 0:01 0.39% top 26838 sshUser 1 45 0 26448K 2464K select 5 0:22 0.20% sshd 853 root 1 44 0 114M 19060K select 0 0:32 0.00% httpd 790 postfix 1 4 0 4600K 2120K kqread 2 0:12 0.00% qmgr 23542 apache 1 4 0 118M 46520K sbwait 3 0:09 0.00% httpd 23420 apache 1 4 0 118M 42340K sbwait 7 0:08 0.00% httpd 23543 apache 1 4 0 118M 51032K sbwait 2 0:08 0.00% httpd 22853 apache 1 4 0 118M 48384K sbwait 4 0:07 0.00% httpd 23768 apache 1 4 0 118M 35432K sbwait 0 0:07 0.00% httpd 23748 apache 1 4 0 118M 36560K sbwait 2 0:07 0.00% httpd 22861 apache 1 4 0 118M 48420K sbwait 2 0:07 0.00% httpd 23618 apache 1 4 0 117M 45696K sbwait 2 0:06 0.00% httpd 23222 apache 1 4 0 118M 46080K sbwait 3 0:06 0.00% httpd 23700 apache 1 4 0 118M 39572K sbwait 0 0:06 0.00% httpd 23534 apache 1 4 0 118M 43984K sbwait 0 0:06 0.00% httpd 23439 apache 1 4 0 118M 42980K sbwait 4 0:06 0.00% httpd 23480 apache 1 4 0 118M 42724K sbwait 0 0:05 0.00% httpd 782 root 1 4 0 4604K 1552K kqread 2 0:05 0.00% master 26843 sshUser 1 44 0 21560K 5824K select 1 0:05 0.00% sftp-server 23066 apache 1 4 0 118M 42328K sbwait 3 0:05 0.00% httpd 23619 apache 1 4 0 118M 48012K sbwait 3 0:05 0.00% httpd 23224 apache 1 4 0 118M 46436K sbwait 3 0:05 0.00% httpd 23220 apache 1 4 0 118M 50776K sbwait 3 0:05 0.00% httpd 23176 apache 1 4 0 118M 44956K sbwait 5 0:04 0.00% httpd 23467 apache 1 4 0 118M 41692K sbwait 0 0:04 0.00% httpd 23294 apache 1 4 0 116M 45552K sbwait 0 0:04 0.00% httpd 22884 apache 1 4 0 118M 48596K sbwait 0 0:04 0.00% httpd 23214 apache 1 4 0 118M 48508K sbwait 4 0:04 0.00% httpd 23177 apache 1 4 0 118M 44844K sbwait 6 0:04 0.00% httpd 23278 apache 1 4 0 117M 44812K sbwait 5 0:04 0.00% httpd 23497 apache 1 4 0 117M 41612K sbwait 0 0:04 0.00% httpd 23477 apache 1 4 0 118M 42332K sbwait 2 0:04 0.00% httpd 23371 apache 1 4 0 118M 42176K sbwait 4 0:04 0.00% httpd 23563 apache 1 4 0 118M 45096K sbwait 2 0:04 0.00% httpd 629 root 1 44 0 5688K 1252K select 0 0:04 0.00% syslogd 23119 apache 1 4 0 118M 42088K sbwait 0 0:03 0.00% httpd Any help will be appreciated.... -- Thanks! BR / vj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 09:26:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E401B106568A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF308FC14 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmQLADtp9knUnw4T/2dsb2JhbACBSohwhA3AD4NzBYVt Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2009 10:26:54 +0100 Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=MAIN) by pih-relay06.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1LyjaX-0005WA-Hq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:26:53 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Graham Bentley" To: References: <20090428082247.C8D83106568D@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:26:51 +0100 Organization: Custom PC North West MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: 7d8a4b8cf54f2dba029c027003795149 Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Graham Bentley List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:26:56 -0000 [Sorry Rolf] One of the things I absolutely love about FreeBSD is the 'Minimal Install' option. I can't tell you how fast you can install and boot the base system but its F-A-S-T! Then, I can fetch latest ports and install _what_I_Want_ - not what someone else thinks I *might* want. This gets top marks in my opinion. I guess for desktop users there might be an option "X-Windows + KDE" or Gnome or XFCE and you get base plus X plus GUI ~ there probably is but I never used them at all :) Sorry if this has been said before ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 09:28:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12579106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F528FC1C for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:28:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so943395qyk.3 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:28:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vzASEVCM/yfYaESIrZ6ZgdPW945I5M2I4nUFvMYWcLw=; b=ZUlJoqO5Sz2Md8tme8WGpwUYMHUQWoQa6W08OVxgWWU8CR9SSwIRHv7NabhtTME0KK hFfScuIIqS5vUATf7QfAsNEVQGqaV0+hnT+vIEExQNODGewQq8+Zi5mdsRzCa6HQ4H1s qW5nc6CtMEeOMfBledW1LFdCoFnYjZDxhRSkk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=g4AdiImip8ZjFu2NJGIAYqX6KKhl49Iui8mo0PGIsaZ+kI/F0Wo/gQvDhOVmSh5XCG q/THgNXLrniR822tYyABw+KVznpcviIm991ZY3UIOb0jcvUfQxs7XpyD4DsqhDwCFWF+ 1WJPFSzOERI7ZEdjChSX7rKLYsiAZdri06EJw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.91.13 with SMTP id k13mr2935496qcm.98.1240910909996; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:28:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:28:29 +0200 Message-ID: <2cd0a0da0904280228x763cd493v19c1d3bc45015f62@mail.gmail.com> From: VeeJay To: FreeBSD-Questions , VeeJay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:28:31 -0000 Sorry Folks, I should have provided complete information in order to get help... I am running DB: Server version: 5.0.77-log FreeBSD port: mysql-server-5.0.77_1 OS: FreeBSD 7.1 And I am keep getting this error after a while "*1135: Can't create a new thread (errno 35); if you are not out of available memory, you can consult the manual for a possible OS-dependent bug*" Then I am unable to shutdown the server or kill the processes.... not even connect through mysql client... -- Thanks! BR / vj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 09:38:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514F31065670 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B218FC13 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:38:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so332469qwe.7 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:38:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/bbFAr18NnBlPqi40cZqGmLLMTB3TuYwlhkWUtONLgg=; b=djGNnotXhFjmIkISGsb4kHULHyC2NGdxo3Ca6RoWEZGs9brBDNB4UlZThl3i3mbBiP dLFqZKeL6kHUQQVidCQmdxEcbC5efWOn+8nsrHMW6f9K3NSWdyQmYgPgtEgg0dpku+RM aRkn2oYOdlwAPqw7FlWnhcB+C/uBHIsfCwqRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e0O05O/gIaptdQVRq/j4VxYNiRXMHBXyz8uSzKFS53BdYn3/GRiDG45/qiLIc1xMUA AGP5/9M2TkAM49P6q3ntKqVahb/6d18cUUWakrj2dRjflzxqZUYttykLZQrxQqK0IaM5 W3VQDMOHpDuZnqKeWX6azAPky9ZkSLskn49qE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.100.134 with SMTP id y6mr3455610qcn.27.1240911487390; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:38:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0904280228x763cd493v19c1d3bc45015f62@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> <2cd0a0da0904280228x763cd493v19c1d3bc45015f62@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:38:07 +0200 Message-ID: <2cd0a0da0904280238k76d18083qc18eac51efc060c6@mail.gmail.com> From: VeeJay To: FreeBSD-Questions , VeeJay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:38:08 -0000 Hi folks then if I check with the process: I get following output: # ps ax | grep mysqld 797 con- I 0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe --defaults-extra-file=/var/db/mysql/my.cnf --user=mysql --datadir=/var/db/mysql --pid-file=/var/db/mysql/localhost.server1.pid 835 con- S 8:17.81 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld --defaults-extra-file=/var/db/mysql/my.cnf --basedir=/usr/local --datadir=/var/db/mysql --pid-file=/var/db/mysql/localhost.server1.pid --port=3306 -- I am running FreeBSD, Apache, MySQL on a Dell PowerEdge 2950 III having 2 x CPU 3,0 GHz Intel Xeon L5450 Quad-Core 2x6MB cache WITH 16 GB RAM Below is the output from my my.cnf, may be that can help to fix this problem: -------------------------------------start # The following options will be passed to all MySQL clients [client] port = 3306 socket = /tmp/mysql.sock default-character-set=utf8 # Here follows entries for some specific programs # The MySQL server [mysqld] port = 3306 socket = /tmp/mysql.sock skip-locking key_buffer = 1024M max_allowed_packet = 16M table_cache = 1024 sort_buffer_size = 3M read_buffer_size = 12M read_rnd_buffer_size = 8M myisam_sort_buffer_size = 64M user=mysql set-variable=local-infile=0 init_connect='SET collation_connection = utf8_general_ci' init_connect='SET NAMES utf8' default-character-set=utf8 character-set-server = utf8 collation-server = utf8_general_ci bind-address=127.0.0.1 skip-innodb skip-name-resolve default-storage-engine = MyISAM wait_timeout = 60 log_slow_queries = /var/db/mysql/mysqld.slow.log long_query_time=3 log-queries-not-using-indexes connect_timeout=10 join_buffer=3M max_connections = 2000 query_cache_type = 1 query_cache_limit = 2M query_cache_size = 128M skip-name-resolve thread_cache_size = 8 thread_concurrency = 8 interactive_timeout=100 join_buffer_size=2M key_buffer_size=1024M max_connect_errors=1000 ft_min_word_len=2 ft_max_word_len=15 skip-networking log-bin=mysql-bin expire_logs_days=7 server-id = 1 [mysqldump] quick max_allowed_packet = 16M [mysql] no-auto-rehash default-character-set=utf8 [isamchk] key_buffer = 256M sort_buffer_size = 256M read_buffer = 2M write_buffer = 2M [myisamchk] key_buffer = 256M sort_buffer_size = 256M read_buffer = 2M write_buffer = 2M [mysqlhotcopy] interactive-timeout -------------------------------------end -- Thanks! BR / vj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 09:50:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04762106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:50:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8C18FC14 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3S9noOc026175; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:49:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n3S9nnKv026172; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:49:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:49:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: VeeJay In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0904280228x763cd493v19c1d3bc45015f62@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> <2cd0a0da0904280228x763cd493v19c1d3bc45015f62@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:50:35 -0000 #define EAGAIN 35 /* Resource temporarily unavailable */ check your process count limit. On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, VeeJay wrote: > Sorry Folks, > > I should have provided complete information in order to get help... > > I am running > > DB: Server version: 5.0.77-log FreeBSD port: mysql-server-5.0.77_1 > OS: FreeBSD 7.1 > > And I am keep getting this error after a while "*1135: Can't create a new > thread (errno 35); if you are not out of available memory, you can consult > the manual for a possible OS-dependent bug*" > > Then I am unable to shutdown the server or kill the processes.... not even > connect through mysql client... > > -- > Thanks! > > BR / vj > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 10:10:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC611065670 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9428FC1A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-27-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.27.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB4E3CE82; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:10:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3SAAe7c001493; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:10:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:10:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090428121040.64128050.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090427215525.GA50048@thought.org> References: <20090427215525.GA50048@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: a couple things.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:10:49 -0000 On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:55:28 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > hey guys, > > i just found OOo.Math. since i did all my math in college on an electric > typewriter, this new find would've been a serious ++win. but ok, where > is the "INSERT"? The INSERT is not in OpenOffice, it's in LaTeX. Or more precise, it's in your favourite text editor. :-) > also, now that i've got OOo-3.0.1 installed, how do I pkg_delete 2.4.1 > safely? i don't want to mess up my old 2.4 .files.... The pkg_delete won't touch anything in your ~ directory, it just deletes what the installer has put onto the disk (this is stuff in /usr/local/). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 10:42:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320EB106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:42:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C56B8FC15 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIT00HTW4DNOJ51@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:41:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:42:52 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:42:53 -0000 I am rather surprised and disappointed that no one has any ideas about using and/or installing a French-Canadian keyboard on FreeBSD. That is a terrible bug in FreeBSD and a worse slur on the Québecois (or Quebeckers) or are we being neglected and still considered "The White Niggers of America"? ;-) Anyway, everything I have tried does not work on FreeBSD or on xorg. Cannot set it up or switch. Somebody, please help. -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 10:54:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B921106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CE78FC18 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so998474qyk.3 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:54:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=n7tmTCQJgrM8TAnpMD1to0djxT4bTrY0zZM9ML7O7Eg=; b=Jd9ZA0TpSX3PPoNjqtHTL1sf3LY1iFXdS0t9lSKTPQxNOcyPO/pn0dXdPhrPSGyeKn wszP4iA/B6HKFMXn2H9c5WkaERHtwfLCZ3YQJGJ46LZREx4tXX9/eIPStrQJ1jfWvich 44VUAt19zMgQVua8O6z4xTOSr7g2claNss0As= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=uaj27jM8Lp+6Jt/XQqGc2hHIFBaZpizV9JG+OxMGNcbZlHIE6Ly+kyjiBB1MZ9EZ1k qDUn7M9Z7gs9MOOG5HNTOFLiFLOc6zky91MZToeB/7wv+IVzufgDXeiu8gg32HujG3D1 QHmBGoPltJ7iYSMFTCiQ0CbeDp7a3bAoNa9GQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.73.136 with SMTP id q8mr3328538qcj.28.1240916053340; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:54:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> <2cd0a0da0904280228x763cd493v19c1d3bc45015f62@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:54:13 +0200 Message-ID: <2cd0a0da0904280354w21c75c18p5a4563ca2a719d15@mail.gmail.com> From: VeeJay To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:54:14 -0000 Thanks Wojciech How can I find out the process count limit and how can I change it? And what is the maximum limit I can give with this hardware? -- Thanks! BR / vj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 11:03:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A45106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from dns.msk.asap.bg (dns.msk.asap.bg [78.90.206.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7838FC08 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from [10.30.1.106] (unknown [87.121.44.129]) by dns.msk.asap.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF2639819 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:03:01 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <49F6E261.6040808@aboutsupport.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:02:57 +0300 From: Peter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions References: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> <2cd0a0da0904280228x763cd493v19c1d3bc45015f62@mail.gmail.com> <2cd0a0da0904280354w21c75c18p5a4563ca2a719d15@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0904280354w21c75c18p5a4563ca2a719d15@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:03:04 -0000 VeeJay wrote: > Thanks Wojciech > > How can I find out the process count limit and how can I change it? > > And what is the maximum limit I can give with this hardware? > > Hello Veejay, Add thise to your loader.conf mysql# cat /boot/loader.conf kern.maxdsiz="4096M" kern.dfldsiz="2048M" kern.maxssiz="1024MB" and reboot the system. This should help. These are values from one my mysql boxes. It is also also in mysql notes for freebsd(see bottom) http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/freebsd.html Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 12:05:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4990C1065716 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (macos.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45618FC1C for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3SC5lNj092092 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:05:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id n3SC5leA092089 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:05:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) X-Authentication-Warning: macos.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:05:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: how to get older version of php5-mbstring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:05:52 -0000 I updated via the ports collection php5-mbstring to the latest version 5.2.9. Previously I had 5.2.8 Also updated php5 from 5.2.8 to 5.2.9 and php5-extensions from 1.2 to 1.3 installing php5-mbstring-5.2.9 installed it alongside php5-mbstring-5.2.8: # pkg_info | grep mbstring php5-mbstring-5.2.8 The mbstring shared extension for php php5-mbstring-5.2.9 The mbstring shared extension for php Then I deleted mbstring 5.2.8 (thinking I wouldn't need it any longer) # pkg_delete php5-mbstring-5.2.8 But now it seems that my Drupal 6.9 continues to look for php5-mbstring-5.2.8 (not looking at php5-mbstring-5.2.9) How can I install php5-mbstring-5.2.8 again via the ports ?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 12:09:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BA61065670 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f165.google.com (mail-bw0-f165.google.com [209.85.218.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F568FC1D for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so484610bwz.43 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:09:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=JczR3G6kvk6yb+0nGMSn8yH1L+Cd/bK1NLPZV8XPrHg=; b=Z09YROHKAPmA4JpIyaS2oCaE6ECAzgwwbsQrzpP5sBmLbPaxx3dHPkUVxo0oihQS3r TkXddlZ25BnfAOL3aE1KyzyHtkFNjqDYebAyjSL+6NUQ6+D5YrfBdtdqiuts+RRIKmdR uZnDHnC3mGQFJmKCQO5dlTnCq4y874TXt8AsQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=vfiLIpIQIzPGXQ4woNkD7kQwCYrq4Wzd/6YE3nIqHD63KqxzTHt4arj4VTslFqzeQL q79twP+OcmFn1g4l1jhkEjItD7teQaw81yjI+wRemwAtGGim7rVKCpW8y/PM0K8aQurh cVWVRsA7pGXIAkrgrZkB+LUKMCq2Rj7veLinU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.115.67 with SMTP id h3mr6329470bkq.173.1240920561369; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:09:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:09:21 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400904280509lba42ea5s83d12fe46611c76a@mail.gmail.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?T2RoaWFtYm8gIOODr+OCt+ODs+ODiOODsw==?= To: Pieter Donche Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: how to get older version of php5-mbstring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:09:23 -0000 On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Pieter Donche wrote: > I updated via the ports collection php5-mbstring > to the latest version 5.2.9. Previously I had 5.2.8 > > Also updated php5 from 5.2.8 to 5.2.9 > and php5-extensions from 1.2 to 1.3 > > installing php5-mbstring-5.2.9 installed it alongside php5-mbstring-5.2.8: > # pkg_info | grep mbstring > php5-mbstring-5.2.8 The mbstring shared extension for php > php5-mbstring-5.2.9 The mbstring shared extension for php > > Then I deleted mbstring 5.2.8 (thinking I wouldn't need it any longer) > # pkg_delete php5-mbstring-5.2.8 > > But now it seems that my Drupal 6.9 continues to look for > php5-mbstring-5.2.8 (not looking at php5-mbstring-5.2.9) > > How can I install php5-mbstring-5.2.8 again via the ports ?? Either recompile drupal against php5-mbstring-5.2.9 or do portdowngrade php5-mbstring -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 12:22:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EDC106566B for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:22:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9E08FC1A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so1069854qyk.3 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:22:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=w7ZTgYD7m2GmbdxFSMNg8vzLNhxe1Gozkq8e9LoDJa0=; b=chWgd+W7+ZuJWpRoLt99VFulSuadjBJTvoErmDZBSt9IzBalbrqvZBciNpTKnZLrM4 ODS/dfg3kKmS0q8WZBRktTBnCjpr4Mzz3KINszrtGTzWu7uEjzI+1nPHcdkstDPyFsrr R8OI4+wWaP97Io9Aqo2ZIavZXMdddgk4Umlb4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ZQJywZfhvXZeJjO4qW8TrRtA1ksJaMZWIiinFGTkCrVAyQeeIfKy+LGkF1Ggt+e5km Ir0r/htr97fDKGQ47An5DW/PV+WLCReeiEUN0D2JZISX3YrPvPwzC4eq4UEcv/BO95h0 sEiC++sM5xEFYyz5pk9NpneDSpHron8w7KyMY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.94.129 with SMTP id z1mr3313642qcm.22.1240921305311; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:21:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F6E261.6040808@aboutsupport.com> References: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> <2cd0a0da0904280228x763cd493v19c1d3bc45015f62@mail.gmail.com> <2cd0a0da0904280354w21c75c18p5a4563ca2a719d15@mail.gmail.com> <49F6E261.6040808@aboutsupport.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:21:45 +0200 Message-ID: <2cd0a0da0904280521u125b4180s4e626670b67b73d5@mail.gmail.com> From: VeeJay To: Peter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:22:14 -0000 Hello Peter Thanks... I have tried the values but even after rebooting, I am still getting the same old values as: server1# sysctl -a | grep maxdsiz compat.ia32.maxdsiz: 536870912 server1# sysctl -a | grep maxssiz compat.ia32.maxssiz: 67108864 Even I tried both methods i.e. kern.maxdsiz="4096M" kern.dfldsiz="2048M" kern.maxssiz="1024MB" and later kern.maxdsiz="4294967296" kern.dfldsiz="2147483648" kern.maxssiz="1073741824" but still no change :( -- Thanks! BR / vj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 12:30:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4785106566C for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:30:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FE68FC1C for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3SCThjl027190; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:29:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n3SCTgHG027187; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:29:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:29:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: VeeJay In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0904280354w21c75c18p5a4563ca2a719d15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> <2cd0a0da0904280228x763cd493v19c1d3bc45015f62@mail.gmail.com> <2cd0a0da0904280354w21c75c18p5a4563ca2a719d15@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:30:28 -0000 [root@wojtek ~]# sysctl -a |grep maxpr kern.maxproc: 5266 kern.maxprocperuid: 4739 i don't know if there is limit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 12:33:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23111065676 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mx.fxclub.org (mx.fxclub.org [67.227.142.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7C68FC17 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mail.fxclub.org ([78.129.247.130]) by mx.fxclub.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LymDZ-000FGy-At; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:15:23 +0000 Received: from [83.167.118.179] (helo=[192.168.0.10]) by mail.fxclub.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LymDR-000L6L-F8; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:15:20 +0000 Message-ID: <49F6F34B.5020302@fxclub.org> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:15:07 +0400 From: Proskurin Kirill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pieter Donche , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.3 Cc: Subject: Re: how to get older version of php5-mbstring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:33:46 -0000 Pieter Donche пиŃет: > I updated via the ports collection php5-mbstring > to the latest version 5.2.9. Previously I had 5.2.8 > > Also updated php5 from 5.2.8 to 5.2.9 > and php5-extensions from 1.2 to 1.3 > > installing php5-mbstring-5.2.9 installed it alongside php5-mbstring-5.2.8: > # pkg_info | grep mbstring > php5-mbstring-5.2.8 The mbstring shared extension for php > php5-mbstring-5.2.9 The mbstring shared extension for php > > Then I deleted mbstring 5.2.8 (thinking I wouldn't need it any longer) > # pkg_delete php5-mbstring-5.2.8 > > But now it seems that my Drupal 6.9 continues to look for > php5-mbstring-5.2.8 (not looking at php5-mbstring-5.2.9) > > How can I install php5-mbstring-5.2.8 again via the ports ?? I think you problem can be solved by: 1) pkgdb -F or 2) reinstalling a Drupal -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 13:00:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552B31065670 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (macos.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E183D8FC1A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3SD0pJr093525 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:00:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id n3SD0peG093522 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:00:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) X-Authentication-Warning: macos.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:00:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <49F6F34B.5020302@fxclub.org> Message-ID: References: <49F6F34B.5020302@fxclub.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: how to get older version of php5-mbstring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:00:54 -0000 > Pieter Donche ?????: > > # pkg_delete php5-mbstring-5.2.8 > > > > But now it seems that my Drupal 6.9 continues to look for > > php5-mbstring-5.2.8 (not looking at php5-mbstring-5.2.9) > > > > How can I install php5-mbstring-5.2.8 again via the ports ?? > > > I think you problem can be solved by: > > 1) pkgdb -F This I don't understand, how can a pkgdb -F restore a package which you have deleted ? From the man page of pkgdb, -F seems only to "resolve stale dependencies, unlink cyclic dependencies, complete stale or missing origins and remove duplicates." Isn't there a way to find in the ports collection an older version of a package somewhere ?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 13:05:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0D71065672 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795988FC14 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8C17E837; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:05:38 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:05:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> <2cd0a0da0904280354w21c75c18p5a4563ca2a719d15@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904281505.36534.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Wojciech Puchar , VeeJay Subject: Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:05:39 -0000 On Tuesday 28 April 2009 14:29:42 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > [root@wojtek ~]# sysctl -a |grep maxpr > kern.maxproc: 5266 > kern.maxprocperuid: 4739 > > > i don't know if there is limit Not relevant. See pthread_create(): EAGAIN is returned for lack of kernel memory or going over PHTREAD_THREADS_MAX which is ULONG_MAX. 1500 threads isn't even close to USHORT_MAX. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 13:19:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D92106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD97A8FC39 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5127E837; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:19:14 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:19:12 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> <49F6E261.6040808@aboutsupport.com> <2cd0a0da0904280521u125b4180s4e626670b67b73d5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0904280521u125b4180s4e626670b67b73d5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904281519.12945.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Peter , VeeJay Subject: Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:19:16 -0000 On Tuesday 28 April 2009 14:21:45 VeeJay wrote: > Hello Peter > > Thanks... I have tried the values but even after rebooting, I am still > getting the same old values as: > > server1# sysctl -a | grep maxdsiz > compat.ia32.maxdsiz: 536870912 > > server1# sysctl -a | grep maxssiz > compat.ia32.maxssiz: 67108864 It's a kenv(1) variable. Either way I don't think it's the problem. mysqld uses 1500 threads and many apache processes waiting for mysql to reply. You should figure out why that is, cause that sounds like a query that's holding a table lock and needing to sort the intermediate result set, stalling all other queries. If you really have ~1500 connections and consider that normal operation, then you may need more kernel memory. amd64 doesn't have a process memory limit (feature or bug I'm undecided on), so you can delete those. Instead set: vm.kmem_size_max="1024M" vm.kmem_size="1024M" -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 13:39:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0FB106567E for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@kfs.ru) Received: from kfs.ru (kfs.kfs.ru [194.186.81.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA2C8FC1E for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@kfs.ru) Received: from bsam by kfs.ru with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LynXD-0005PE-Tk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:39:43 +0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090426135527.GA36455@dell1> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:39:43 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20090426135527.GA36455@dell1> (William Bulley's message of "Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:55:27 -0400") Message-ID: <35600848@serv3.int.kfs.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: "Boris B. Samorodov" Subject: Re: fatal error from /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:39:48 -0000 On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:55:27 -0400 William Bulley wrote: > On Friday I ran the following: > # cd /usr/local/etc/cvsup > # csup -L2 ports-supfile > # csup -L2 doc-supfile > # csup -L2 stable-supfile (tag=RELENG_7) > I then rebuilt the world and installed it. When I rebooted, > I was very pleasantly surprised to find: > % uname -a > FreeBSD freebsd 7.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE #0: > Fri Apr 24 16:13:56 EDT 2009 [snip] i386 > I began the process of rebuilding my all ports on Saturday: > # pkg_delete -a > # \rm -rf /usr/ports/*/work > Things progressed fine until I started building any ports > having some dependency on Linux emulation: > [this is true for /usr/ports/print/acroread8 and 9 > astro/google-earth, multimedia/linux-realplayer, > www/opera-linuxplugins, etc.] > # make install clean > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk", line 72: Malformed conditional > (${LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX}=="") > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk", line 130: Malformed conditional > (${LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX} == "-f8") > Error expanding embedded variable. > Here are the relevant settings in the indicated files: > /etc/fstab > linprocfs /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 > # kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 12 0xc0400000 48d204 kernel > 2 1 0xc088e000 6a45c acpi.ko > 3 1 0xc5403000 7000 linprocfs.ko > 4 1 0xc540f000 22000 linux.ko > /etc/rc.conf > linux_enable="YES" > /etc/make.conf > OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f9 > OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f9 The last variable may take a value of "f8" only. For more information you may take a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING, /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk. > /etc/sysctl.conf > compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 > I don't know what to do to fix this problem. I don't > know whether I should submit a pr or try to determine > what is going on myself. Not sure I would succeed at > the latter. Please advise. If more information or > detail is required, let me know. > The next thing I will try is changing /etc/make.conf > to override "f8" instead of "f9" As for OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT it can be assigned a value "f9". WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 13:40:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE94106567A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3159A8FC1A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so401115qwe.7 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:40:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CYpjAPBNZsBSW3yuQLOdiFnDlG9/KxxjROR/mgSKw0Y=; b=P0QrXiVW0D6YcM+UBgxKBpx8m3K+VxfeqdjwuwOX0CNTT8+qB/oFqd+OQrGli8KXaQ gzSwG1l30JrIDBM/HKCN19EPJ1tX7YfAbcyF51qQesAGvAkArjR22JUX5lPcTC2IuUh9 lJjK9P73M5bJsUj02RHNirCs2EuBwcX/PC1eY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=vqdQXvKQ+DdQogbJMHPT/rxvOZzzVE24OcvOQZGFdXOYDW9WY1t3YCAXzh8ykY+b2O 2/V+D/KVcaFftVoFg7CUP8MYzc5L7A/P6G5NllAaePfXwqY352UTHyXKh3Dt8/HorEqj 9vnzUdAe4Or0dede1DYF8DfPR4tSZHa6mQQ70= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.73.209 with SMTP id r17mr3570582qcj.30.1240926005821; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:40:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200904281519.12945.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> <49F6E261.6040808@aboutsupport.com> <2cd0a0da0904280521u125b4180s4e626670b67b73d5@mail.gmail.com> <200904281519.12945.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:40:05 +0200 Message-ID: <2cd0a0da0904280640r12f0028fq9beb49ee0dce5fc7@mail.gmail.com> From: VeeJay To: Mel Flynn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Peter , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:40:09 -0000 Hej Mel Well, I have removed these values kern.maxdsiz="4096M" kern.dfldsiz="2048M" kern.maxssiz="1024MB" and have added: vm.kmem_size_max="1024M" vm.kmem_size="1024M" having crossed my fingers and hoping, I don't get this error again.... Thanks for your help! -- Thanks! BR / vj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 13:41:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9A51065692 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792AC8FC2E for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 13041 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2009 13:41:03 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Apr 2009 13:41:03 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 323E05084B; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:41:02 -0400 (EDT) To: Steven Friedrich References: <49F5F9F9.5050506@InsightBB.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:41:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: <49F5F9F9.5050506@InsightBB.com> (Steven Friedrich's message of "Mon\, 27 Apr 2009 14\:31\:21 -0400") Message-ID: <443absdhg1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chicken and egg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:41:05 -0000 Steven Friedrich writes: > I've been having trouble with X11 ports, so I deleted all my packages > and tried to install xorg fresh. > > xorg port failed trying to build cairo, cairo failed because it > couldn't build libdrm, libdrm failed because cairo's headers weren't > installed. > > So in summary, I can't install cairo because it wants to build libdrm, > which won't build/install because it wants cairo. > > And I tried to install packages or the X11 distro from the ftp site > and also from my 7.2 RC-1 media. I tried setting the Options for > "any" as well as RELEASE_7_2_0, to no avail. My system is up and > running multi-user, so sysinstall failed to install any packages. > > I built cairo with make -k install, so it would brute force past the > error, and after that I built libdrm and cairo again with portupgrade > -fr libdrm cairo. Not only have I not seen or heard of this problem before, I can't see any direct dependency of either libdrm or cairo on the other. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 13:52:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7791065674 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from ghirai.com (ghirai.com [195.74.52.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EE18FC13 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ghirai.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A7DD217044; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:52:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:52:46 +0300 From: Ghirai To: Roland Smith Message-Id: <20090428165246.567a1c3e.ghirai@ghirai.com> In-Reply-To: <20090427235943.GA35509@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090427191824.25e415e4.ghirai@ghirai.com> <20090427235943.GA35509@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: quick vfs tuning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:52:46 -0000 On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:59:43 +0200 Roland Smith wrote: > > I dropped gmirror in favor of running an rsync to the second disk at > night because gmirror is kinda slow. I saw the same performance as you > did with the combination of gmirror and geli. > > Roland > -- Thanks for the numbers. -- Regards, Ghirai. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 14:03:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29151065674 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7910C8FC15 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 8708 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2009 14:03:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=yo5socOK/zk4VjONQyqdoDkIfZcGgo483alio3vikBK/o4hMiOlgrv7+4LqI6/98t1A+OMD8Bgq6KEVwG9vfw1L5E48DIl6Z3CyY+LWGayorQqZsvxQGvJGgtRJUYPp93embkadCeWO12q5SN8sP4uAIcT5zU7lPm/ZsNyUevnM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2009 14:03:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 3iJD5P8VM1m3QtEC8OocfterCQIB1e3SjEO8SUGrHhDudxF64bWJASZt03Wb1YDP0vMLVR_s2bmmeG64iqIQ3Wra_Xb_Sc4I61m6i5trCxzVeUEkOFtbDsdzkfMmYE4bLfg5yifK9uA9BrIHvun.FaMgyfok4F.8NupOd_MLeES4ic.CFs9WAV2IsibTneVT3sOpDF8ZUe1Q7IQ5PqJD5O1Y6JLRFDDK5jnfypFkMW6f6fRQViTZcpAglHDN6SH07J1QATKv2Cnus63PtIulpedoRIgAnoi_rv.LQf4onAi8pB.WEs2kDSWqjDKS89YtUgk.Ni6uXVwqf6t5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:03:40 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090428100340.19167cca@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.4) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/BG.wrYxdpGkWq=gMezwv4NU"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: Pieter Donche Subject: Re: how to get older version of php5-mbstring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:03:52 -0000 --Sig_/BG.wrYxdpGkWq=gMezwv4NU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:05:47 +0200 (CEST) Pieter Donche wrote: >I updated via the ports collection php5-mbstring >to the latest version 5.2.9. Previously I had 5.2.8 > >Also updated php5 from 5.2.8 to 5.2.9 >and php5-extensions from 1.2 to 1.3 > >installing php5-mbstring-5.2.9 installed it alongside >php5-mbstring-5.2.8: # pkg_info | grep mbstring >php5-mbstring-5.2.8 The mbstring shared extension for php >php5-mbstring-5.2.9 The mbstring shared extension for php > >Then I deleted mbstring 5.2.8 (thinking I wouldn't need it any longer) ># pkg_delete php5-mbstring-5.2.8 > >But now it seems that my Drupal 6.9 continues to look for=20 >php5-mbstring-5.2.8 (not looking at php5-mbstring-5.2.9) > >How can I install php5-mbstring-5.2.8 again via the ports ?? cd /usr/ports/www/drupal6 make clean && make deinstall && make reinstall There is no need to install the older version of php5-mbstring. In fact, doing so might cause problems at some point. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com For large values of one, one equals two, for small values of two. --Sig_/BG.wrYxdpGkWq=gMezwv4NU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkn3DMQACgkQBvaKIJWWCO05jQCggSjPIUS/lG2J4VSl9zQSct/h EdMAoKKdGXoPQDPYPP4TBbUYASgkzEcX =HOkG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/BG.wrYxdpGkWq=gMezwv4NU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 14:30:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C7B106567B for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (macos.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612758FC1D for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3SEU4J0010254 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:30:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id n3SEU4Y2010251 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:30:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) X-Authentication-Warning: macos.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:30:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090428100340.19167cca@scorpio> Message-ID: References: <20090428100340.19167cca@scorpio> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: how to get older version of php5-mbstring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:30:07 -0000 On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:05:47 +0200 (CEST) >> I updated via the ports collection php5-mbstring >> to the latest version 5.2.9. Previously I had 5.2.8 >> Also updated php5 from 5.2.8 to 5.2.9 >> and php5-extensions from 1.2 to 1.3 >> installing php5-mbstring-5.2.9 installed it alongside >> php5-mbstring-5.2.8: # pkg_info | grep mbstring >> php5-mbstring-5.2.8 The mbstring shared extension for php >> php5-mbstring-5.2.9 The mbstring shared extension for php >> Then I deleted mbstring 5.2.8 (thinking I wouldn't need it any longer) >> # pkg_delete php5-mbstring-5.2.8 >> But now it seems that my Drupal 6.9 continues to look for >> php5-mbstring-5.2.8 (not looking at php5-mbstring-5.2.9) >> How can I install php5-mbstring-5.2.8 again via the ports ?? > > cd /usr/ports/www/drupal6 > make clean && make deinstall && make reinstall > > There is no need to install the older version of php5-mbstring. In > fact, doing so might cause problems at some point. Problem is that our drupal-6.9 was installed from a tar file, not from freebsd ports and in some location different than where FreeBSD drupal6 port installs it (i think FreeBSD's place is /usr/local/www/drupal ?) We had it unpacked in /usr/local/www/apache22/data/drupal. If I install drupal6-10 from the ports, how will the affect things? Of would it be safe to make a soft-link /usr/local/www/drupal -> /usr/local/www/apache22/data/drupal before installing from ports? Also since the first drupal (6.9) was not installed from ports, then what is needed might be: # cd /usr/ports/www/drupal6 # make install clean is that correct? Also, I do not understand well why a package can not handle a higher version of php5-mbstring-5.2.9 instead of 5.2.9 since it is only a security issue patch? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 14:32:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B871065672 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:32:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from queueout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (queueout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C9F8FC12 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:32:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090428141643.EBIA4080.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:16:43 +0100 Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org ([82.21.101.171]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090428141643.IHQQ2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@catflap.slightlystrange.org> for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:16:43 +0100 Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id C8A5E6192; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:16:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 142D0617B for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:16:39 +0100 (BST) Received: by torus.slightlystrange.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:16:39 +0100 From: "Daniel Bye" Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:16:39 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090428141639.GB20888@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dTy3Mrz/UPE2dbVg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE i386 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=sP-M6cxdMzUA:10 a=gIzC8EJUG3AA:10 a=ehNlctqhnw0A:10 a=E8bLprgjyu0WAPRg3VYA:9 a=pyq8pXt83-z79uNPPBfv85qunycA:4 a=FDCT50bKO4HedjMkIZYA:9 a=KFqeY_thZVOBMsBOplzWMCAm_NwA:4 Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:32:33 -0000 --dTy3Mrz/UPE2dbVg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 06:42:52AM -0400, PJ wrote: > Anyway, everything I have tried does not work on FreeBSD or on xorg. What have you tried already? Are you using hald to autoconfigure Xorg, or are you still using the static xorg.conf file? Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --dTy3Mrz/UPE2dbVg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkn3D8cACgkQixf5fBYiFmqpTQCeII65/OeVy1cPzplyH+qQCxG/ HNcAoNfiuVpS7YNv6RXFUJGxaUk2EqjO =sXvD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dTy3Mrz/UPE2dbVg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 16:05:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0B5106566B for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:05:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) Received: from mxsf04.insightbb.com (mxsf04.insightbb.com [74.128.0.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BC48FC14 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:05:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,261,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="627621326" Received: from unknown (HELO asav03.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf04.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2009 12:05:42 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQBAM/F9klKg4ed/2dsb2JhbAAIz2eDcwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,261,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="90167702" Received: from 74-131-135-157.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO [192.168.2.3]) ([74.131.135.157]) by asavout03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2009 12:05:42 -0400 Message-ID: <49F7289B.6060207@InsightBB.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:02:35 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Chicken and egg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:05:43 -0000 I've been having trouble with X11 ports, so I deleted all my packages and tried to install xorg fresh. xorg port failed trying to build cairo, cairo failed because it couldn't build libdrm, libdrm failed because cairo's headers weren't installed. So in summary, I can't install cairo because it wants to build libdrm, which won't build/install because it wants cairo. And I tried to install packages or the X11 distro from the ftp site and also from my 7.2 RC-1 media. I tried setting the Options for "any" as well as RELEASE_7_2_0, to no avail. My system is up and running multi-user, so sysinstall failed to install any packages. I built cairo with make -k install, so it would brute force past the error, and after that I built libdrm and cairo again with portupgrade -fr libdrm cairo. -- Steven Friedrich Lexington, KY 40509 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 16:08:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8AF1065670 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) Received: from mxsf05.insightbb.com (mxsf05.insightbb.com [74.128.0.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94C38FC18 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,261,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="631208915" Received: from unknown (HELO asav03.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf05.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2009 12:07:53 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AucBAPvG9klKg4ed/2dsb2JhbAAIkCG/PYNzBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,261,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="90168062" Received: from 74-131-135-157.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO [192.168.2.3]) ([74.131.135.157]) by asavout03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2009 12:07:50 -0400 Message-ID: <49F7291C.6020900@InsightBB.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:04:44 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: make installworld is failing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:08:00 -0000 It's trying to install zh locale stuff. In make.conf, I set DOC to en_something, so why is it doing other languages? This has been occurring for a short while and I've been getting around it with make -k installworld. But that no longer works. Any ideas? -- Steven Friedrich Lexington, KY 40509 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 16:10:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69BD106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) Received: from mxsf01.insightbb.com (mxsf01.insightbb.com [74.128.0.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747CB8FC12 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,261,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="652025623" Received: from unknown (HELO asav03.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2009 12:09:57 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AucBAPvG9klKg4ed/2dsb2JhbAAIkCG/PYNzBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,261,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="90168369" Received: from 74-131-135-157.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO [192.168.2.3]) ([74.131.135.157]) by asavout03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2009 12:09:56 -0400 Message-ID: <49F72999.7040801@InsightBB.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:06:49 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: make installworld is failing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:10:06 -0000 It's trying to install zh locale stuff. In make.conf, I set DOC to en_something, so why is it doing other languages? This has been occurring for a short while and I've been getting around it with make -k installworld. But that no longer works. I'm tracking the 7.2 (RELENG_7). Any ideas? -- Steven Friedrich Lexington, KY 40509 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 16:17:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576D3106566C for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:17:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106A18FC17 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:17:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so1334817qyk.3 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:17:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2sUNUVbltdLzeQmaz0Arm6j55d3RdMQzWtO+HHz2tJU=; b=blhR+3uMYTgwzJGXJ/PosVJYGbTcDu3qrpL3TfCA9Utls+UAzxbgURi6yo8NosJSL0 wACTTFxXwv4Vbe/+jbSj8Bfr79GGQ4oTlEetnI1G9CvDz0+EXgholMk0uzqi68XrptmC Ng0SGYZd+uTCD7wgJ3dAxJH1oY94QZugX9a2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Tbipk5uDMmv8wYBw1PNdlp7gjaHn5cKo8S9VHB8rp53ou6It3uAq+sh1C75Eo3jXZ9 DZS8PPXJXC6nUSMHLLctjMKKUzYEjtM56ur3SM1pHoxwz7Lm+SJGxB32sr6FXtV7+RWu rwiXEhJ733fqiUREJETUvV9aJPOb07Zq0dCOM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.96.1 with SMTP id f1mr3854761qcn.103.1240935442933; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:17:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:17:22 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Klaus_Friis_=D8stergaard?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ruby18 or Portupgrade error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:17:25 -0000 2009/4/28 Klaus Friis =D8stergaard : > Hi, > > While upgrade gnome I have run into to this error, is it related to > portupgrade or Ruby18 or something different. > > kfo@prod01% sudo portupgrade -aOW -x x11/gdm =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/home/kfo > mktemp: mkdtemp failed on /var/tmp/portupgradedtlzuto6: Too many links > /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgmisc.rb:140:in `init_tmpdir': > Could not create temporary directory in /var/tmp (RuntimeError) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgtools.rb:260:in > `init_pkgtools_global' > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:529:in `main' > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:787:in `initializ= e' > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `new' > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `main' > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:2208 > kfo@prod01% > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/home/kfo > > I am not experience any other problems on the system. > > I have tried to csup and manually done make deisntall and make install > of both portupgrade and ruby18. > > It seems that I something are able to run portupgrade right after > Reboot, but second time or is not run right after reboot this failure > occure. Try running pkgdb -fFu If that doesn't help, after making sure you've upgraded ruby, try rebuilding databases/db41 and databases/ruby-bdb (in that order) and then running pkgdb -fFu --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 16:28:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D287106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:28:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93C78FC15 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIT00496KF2C6H0@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:28:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49F72E74.30403@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:27:32 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <20090428141639.GB20888@torus.slightlystrange.org> In-reply-to: <20090428141639.GB20888@torus.slightlystrange.org> Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:28:19 -0000 Daniel Bye wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 06:42:52AM -0400, PJ wrote: > > >> Anyway, everything I have tried does not work on FreeBSD or on xorg. >> > > What have you tried already? Are you using hald to autoconfigure Xorg, or > are you still using the static xorg.conf file? > > Dan > > I rather prefer to keep things simple and do them with the console, if possible. :-) -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 16:59:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766DD1065672 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim.vanderveen@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E738FC12 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim.vanderveen@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so415333yxb.13 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:59:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1xmp8M7qq4fIBW6bkq95eVoa6yFZMfvJfemcF9XZyCU=; b=WHrXNVSZmzwVf6vPH3MYdsdm+gy2ud+Mr+YHNrtP64nqxlLYtp/zkmOQf+Xnz/s7+1 JBhvDipM1C149Ws+s65v4e9l47Yioxd2SBK35f1EYfZlz8crNBnPa5H/R9valLinr5vx xI+DWoMVJIjrjh+QLGagDlHsngDyqOTF2lADw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=rR6vDQBblrOQOfqfss6aWya/R6tNSuQS5TziBdehL5DuyT5T9a60/UvpzxRihSoJ6k HZlp8g9lVbumwO9EAzp3D38Y62Uq7FvC1LG49/SX0qD+WhcdpAd+iRalk9o1gla7RPdq VFndtaCkdx6+qyf2A2ag1iX7baw7CF0Q4X9Y8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.125.12 with SMTP id x12mr6026280anc.112.1240936275425; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:31:15 -0700 Message-ID: From: Jim Vanderveen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: freebsd-update and 7.1-RELEASE-p5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:59:43 -0000 I updated a fresh 7.1-RELEASE to (I thought) 7.1-RELEASE-p5 using freebsd-update; however, uname shows me at 7.1-RELEASE-p4 after rebooting: $ uname -v FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p4 #0: Sun Mar 22 12:35:36 UTC 2009 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC $ sudo freebsd-update fetch Password: Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.1-RELEASE from update2.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. No updates needed to update system to 7.1-RELEASE-p5. $ sudo freebsd-update install No updates are available to install. Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch' first. $ I was expecting uname to show "7.1-RELEASE-p5". Is this incorrect? Or have I done something wrong? -- Jim Vanderveen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 17:08:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E73106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:08:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 955978FC0A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:08:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 75012 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2009 17:08:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=PX79HIHL3JBDW4Vim3PftAtVX7aKzgbjhmK5kywenrHZxqBQk3+ljBl9aD42rPe3TpMdPV1B1u4l58TOzoR9KBQbAuovTZUIEEi69iS2NaOnVmsbwINwmTvNbjhcrWaySSSiR9xCJPexIm6PS2xS/uwV2ru4+85h/O+tVcxe3MU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp104.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2009 17:08:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: BgjZExAVM1ljb3w33YpraMGutXLwC8rttTTs_brp_r10Nw_zKQ2YSJJQJmw0TCCdKhO2g3jQCHpNCYVrBjuEuC03l.qVo6qnC4K8W_XlFWhZk4JqQw3QlvK7BktqU1fX11LjyVKcZyAbxhQi5FkIZQVjXTRjXuZX1JLCQdKo_kUyyX1JXSY._8Q_9jTEzIjfda7RlFqiCmN_dg5Qj7wDLwLUHa4h_t.WZpZUKdFV9OnCQtoJnIrZTo5swvqPlbU5LBemXUfDX_JinXRZ8eZTbDGZ2Mo1VeE093tQUgFmUXbobBAsIbRFHFmjf6SQ_U3JbMpUt6bXUQc.CLOkPsdNnIwj8GSMiU9MlvD7 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:08:02 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090428130802.4b8726cd@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <20090428100340.19167cca@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.4) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/C_qWCWiHZZLITkw2Z68kMZZ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: Re: how to get older version of php5-mbstring X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:08:15 -0000 --Sig_/C_qWCWiHZZLITkw2Z68kMZZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:30:04 +0200 (CEST) Pieter Donche wrote: >On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Jerry wrote: > >> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:05:47 +0200 (CEST) >>> I updated via the ports collection php5-mbstring >>> to the latest version 5.2.9. Previously I had 5.2.8 >>> Also updated php5 from 5.2.8 to 5.2.9 >>> and php5-extensions from 1.2 to 1.3 >>> installing php5-mbstring-5.2.9 installed it alongside >>> php5-mbstring-5.2.8: # pkg_info | grep mbstring >>> php5-mbstring-5.2.8 The mbstring shared extension for php >>> php5-mbstring-5.2.9 The mbstring shared extension for php >>> Then I deleted mbstring 5.2.8 (thinking I wouldn't need it any >>> longer) # pkg_delete php5-mbstring-5.2.8 >>> But now it seems that my Drupal 6.9 continues to look for >>> php5-mbstring-5.2.8 (not looking at php5-mbstring-5.2.9) >>> How can I install php5-mbstring-5.2.8 again via the ports ?? >> >> cd /usr/ports/www/drupal6 >> make clean && make deinstall && make reinstall >> >> There is no need to install the older version of php5-mbstring. In >> fact, doing so might cause problems at some point. > >Problem is that our drupal-6.9 was installed from a tar file, not >from freebsd ports and in some location different than where=20 >FreeBSD drupal6 port installs it (i think FreeBSD's place is=20 >/usr/local/www/drupal ?) > >We had it unpacked in /usr/local/www/apache22/data/drupal. > >If I install drupal6-10 from the ports, how will the affect things? >Of would it be safe to make a soft-link /usr/local/www/drupal -> >/usr/local/www/apache22/data/drupal before installing from ports? > >Also since the first drupal (6.9) was not installed from ports, then >what is needed might be: ># cd /usr/ports/www/drupal6 ># make install clean > >is that correct? > >Also, I do not understand well why a package can not handle a higher >version of php5-mbstring-5.2.9 instead of 5.2.9 since it is only a >security issue patch? If it were me, I would uninstall your present version of drupal and install the version available in the ports tree. CD to the correct directory, and then run: "make config" first to insure it is configured to your liking. The run: make install distclean That should correct the situation. You might have to make some configuration changes from your original installation though. That is one of the major problems when installing sans the ports system. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Piece of cake! -- G. S. Koblas --Sig_/C_qWCWiHZZLITkw2Z68kMZZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkn3N/wACgkQBvaKIJWWCO39cQCePRQ3I+XcPWzavIAzV3oZRHF1 /akAn00U4eKt8uJ0O0SAmhwVWlZM1bmi =+R9h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/C_qWCWiHZZLITkw2Z68kMZZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 17:21:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74614106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E458FC1A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3SHP1WS080563; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:25:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: (from ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3SHP0HY080562; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:25:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: Pieter Donche In-Reply-To: References: <1240860015.1569.43.camel@pukruppa.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:25:00 +0200 Message-Id: <1240939500.1626.5.camel@pukruppa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: acroread run problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:21:56 -0000 I am very sorry: I mixed up the acroread versions: you won't be able to run acroread9 stably on FreeBSD 7.x . You will have to wait for FreeBSD 8 . Until then you have to use acroread8 :-( Greetings Uli. Am Dienstag, den 28.04.2009, 07:44 +0200 schrieb Pieter Donche: > Hi, > > yes I do have in my /etc/rc.conf > linux_enable="YES" > > > 2) Do you get > > # df > > [...] > > linprocfs 4 4 0 100% /usr/compat/linux/proc > No, this I do not have, but I wonder what that is ... > > I find nothing about linprocfs in > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html > > I also checked (from that book chapter 10.2) > # kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 7 0xffffffff80100000 ac7708 kernel > 2 1 0xffffffffb08e0000 18aea linux.ko > 3 1 0xffffffffb09cb000 496 star_saver.ko > > Also, I have a another PC with FreeBSD7 (i386) with Acrobat Reader 7.0 > (/usr/local/bin/acroread) which works and there I do not not have > a "linprocfs ..." in a df output... > > > On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: > > > Am Montag, den 27.04.2009, 11:16 +0200 schrieb Pieter Donche: > >> FreeBSD7/amd64 with linux_base-fc-4_14 Base set of packages needed > >> in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) > >> I installed acroread9-9.1.0_2 (no errors) > >> # cd /usr/ports/print/acroread9 > >> # make install clean > >> OK. > >> > >> but at > >> $ acroread & > >> I get: > >> > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >> (acroread:67581): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >> (acroread:67581): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >> > >> (acroread:67581): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules > >> were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means > >> there was an error in the creation of: > >> '/etc/pango/pango.modules' > >> You may be able to recreate this file by running pango-querymodules. > >> (acroread:67581): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_engine_shape_shape: assertion `PANGO_IS_FONT (font)' failed > >> Pango-ERROR **: file shape.c: line 75 (pango_shape): assertion failed: (glyphs->num_glyphs > 0) > >> aborting... > >> [1]+ Exit 1 acroread > >> > >> I do have: > >> /usr/compat/linux/etc/pango > >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 24 09:51 i686-redhat-linux-gnu > >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 11446 Apr 24 09:50 pangox.aliases > >> > > Just to check the prerequisites: > > 1) Do you have > > linux_enable="YES" > > in your /etc/rc.conf > > 2) Do you get > > # df > > [...] > > linprocfs 4 4 0 100% /usr/compat/linux/proc > > > > (If not do have a look at > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html ) > > > > Greetings > > > > Uli. > > > >> What's wrong and how to remedy ? > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 17:38:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F46106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B4D8D8FC08 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:38:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 Apr 2009 17:38:18 -0000 Received: from d90-135-88-214.cust.tele2.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [90.135.88.214] by mail.gmx.net (mp067) with SMTP; 28 Apr 2009 19:38:18 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18BEXpz8REBTWuvn/tUxTEyqq7+sOf9bdDy1em8y7 eL64Ik5rFHQRE9 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:38:15 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Jim Vanderveen Message-Id: <20090428193815.b9eb43bb.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Tue__28_Apr_2009_19_38_15_+0200_iuK..xbxcugiCGZi" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.68 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update and 7.1-RELEASE-p5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:38:22 -0000 --Signature=_Tue__28_Apr_2009_19_38_15_+0200_iuK..xbxcugiCGZi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:31:15 -0700 Jim Vanderveen wrote: > I updated a fresh 7.1-RELEASE to (I thought) 7.1-RELEASE-p5 using > freebsd-update; however, uname shows me at 7.1-RELEASE-p4 after > rebooting: Afaik -p5 did not require rebuilding the kernel. That is why it only shows -p4. The string is only updated if the kernel is recompiled using the recent source. Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Tue__28_Apr_2009_19_38_15_+0200_iuK..xbxcugiCGZi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkn3PwkACgkQ8P3NNypXNWX3pgCeOCRUJGvihZprN/3DoPfyv+nc Wr0AoJgJY6omU3qJfpvN/jmsUn7f8+kv =McmJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Tue__28_Apr_2009_19_38_15_+0200_iuK..xbxcugiCGZi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 17:40:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD3D106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE1B8FC15 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC024EB5352; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:40:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA5E4509B; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:40:38 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pw-1uqEYo9f1; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:40:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl107-86.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.226.86]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE5F4503F; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:40:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3SHebBR004245; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:40:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3SHeZ0E004244; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:40:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Steven Friedrich References: <49F72999.7040801@InsightBB.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:40:35 +0300 In-Reply-To: <49F72999.7040801@InsightBB.com> (Steven Friedrich's message of "Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:06:49 -0400") Message-ID: <87ljpkptgs.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make installworld is failing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:40:40 -0000 On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:06:49 -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote: > It's trying to install zh locale stuff. > > In make.conf, I set DOC to en_something, so why is it doing other languages? > > This has been occurring for a short while and I've been getting around > it with make -k installworld. But that no longer works. > > I'm tracking the 7.2 (RELENG_7). > > Any ideas? Show us both your make.conf file and the error please. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 17:42:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9358D10656A8 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) Received: from mxsf08.insightbb.com (mxsf08.insightbb.com [74.128.0.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2B88FC24 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,261,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="666237356" Received: from unknown (HELO asav02.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf08.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2009 13:42:23 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQBAE/c9klKg4ed/2dsb2JhbAAIz2+DcwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,261,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="313407078" Received: from 74-131-135-157.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO [192.168.2.3]) ([74.131.135.157]) by asavout02.manage.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2009 13:42:23 -0400 Message-ID: <49F73F43.30101@InsightBB.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:39:15 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <49F5F9F9.5050506@InsightBB.com> <443absdhg1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <443absdhg1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Chicken and egg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:42:25 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Steven Friedrich writes: > >> I've been having trouble with X11 ports, so I deleted all my packages >> and tried to install xorg fresh. >> >> xorg port failed trying to build cairo, cairo failed because it >> couldn't build libdrm, libdrm failed because cairo's headers weren't >> installed. >> >> So in summary, I can't install cairo because it wants to build libdrm, >> which won't build/install because it wants cairo. >> >> And I tried to install packages or the X11 distro from the ftp site >> and also from my 7.2 RC-1 media. I tried setting the Options for >> "any" as well as RELEASE_7_2_0, to no avail. My system is up and >> running multi-user, so sysinstall failed to install any packages. >> >> I built cairo with make -k install, so it would brute force past the >> error, and after that I built libdrm and cairo again with portupgrade >> -fr libdrm cairo. > > Not only have I not seen or heard of this problem before, I can't see > any direct dependency of either libdrm or cairo on the other. > pkg_info -r cairo\* shows that cairo needs libdrm. Information for cairo-1.8.6_1,1: Depends on: ... Dependency: libdrm-2.4.9 ... If anyone has a has a test system, where they could try my scenario, i.e., deleting all installed packages and trying to install xorg, I think you'll find it. I have two identical systems that I have mobile racks in, allowing me to swap out the hard drives. So I have 4 sets of drives, Lightning, Daemon, FreakinBSD, and Gandalf. I saw this issue with Daemon. I need to update FreakinBSD and Gandalf, so I'll try this again and get it in a log file. libdrm doesn't build without cairo.h in /usr/local/include, but it won't be there until you're built cairo, which depends on libdrm. -- Steven Friedrich Lexington, KY 40509 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 17:45:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87013106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) Received: from mxsf01.insightbb.com (mxsf01.insightbb.com [74.128.0.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E5A8FC16 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,261,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="652078512" Received: from unknown (HELO asav01.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2009 13:45:41 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQBAPPd9klKg4ed/2dsb2JhbAAIz3uDcwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,261,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="211950601" Received: from 74-131-135-157.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO [192.168.2.3]) ([74.131.135.157]) by asavout01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2009 13:45:41 -0400 Message-ID: <49F7400A.8080101@InsightBB.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:42:34 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: make installworld is failing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:45:42 -0000 It's trying to install zh locale stuff. In make.conf, I set DOC to en_something, so why is it doing other languages? This has been occurring for a short while and I've been getting around it with make -k installworld. But that no longer works. I'm tracking the 7.2 (RELENG_7). Here's an excerpt from the log: ===> share/timedef (install) install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 nb_NO.ISO8859-1.out /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME install: /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME: Too many levels of symbolic links *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/share/timedef. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/share. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I am able to work around this issue by placing WITHOUT_LOCALES=yes in /etc/src.conf, but I hate to do that 8o) Any ideas? -- Steven Friedrich Lexington, KY 40509 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 17:57:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7240106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) Received: from mxsf08.insightbb.com (mxsf08.insightbb.com [74.128.0.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B558FC16 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,261,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="666245358" Received: from unknown (HELO asav00.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf08.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2009 13:57:14 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQBAEvg9klKg4ed/2dsb2JhbAAI0ASDcwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,261,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="79491995" Received: from 74-131-135-157.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO [192.168.2.3]) ([74.131.135.157]) by asavout00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2009 13:57:14 -0400 Message-ID: <49F742BE.6000308@InsightBB.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:54:06 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: make installworld is failing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:57:15 -0000 It's trying to install zh locale stuff. In make.conf, I set DOC to en_something, so why is it doing other languages? This has been occurring for a short while and I've been getting around it with make -k installworld. But that no longer works. I'm tracking the 7.2 (RELENG_7). Here's an excerpt from the log: ===> share/timedef (install) install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 nb_NO.ISO8859-1.out /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME install: /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME: Too many levels of symbolic links *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/share/timedef. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/share. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I am able to work around this issue by placing WITHOUT_LOCALES=yes in /etc/src.conf, but I hate to do that 8o) Greg found the issue back in February, but no one has fixed it... Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:45:10 -0800 From: "Gregory W. MacPherson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: installworld fails - nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME: too many levels of symbolic links Message-ID: <20090221004510.GB92724@b2.datasieve.net> Next in thread | Raw E-Mail | Index | Archive | Help The problem is that both of the files: /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME and /usr/share/locale/no_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME ... are symbolic links ... to each other. The solution is to remove one symlink and replace it with a real file as shown below: rm -f /usr/share/locale/no_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME touch /usr/share/locale/no_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME Now /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME is a symbolic link and /usr/share/locale/no_NO.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME is a real (albeot zero length) file. And, yes, someone ought to fix this in CVS. -- Greg -- Steven Friedrich Lexington, KY 40509 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 18:01:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE51106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C338FC13 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4472781.home.otenet.gr [94.71.127.189]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3SI1A2h019083; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:01:10 +0300 Message-ID: <49F74466.7050409@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:01:10 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven Friedrich References: <49F5F9F9.5050506@InsightBB.com> <443absdhg1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <49F73F43.30101@InsightBB.com> In-Reply-To: <49F73F43.30101@InsightBB.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chicken and egg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:01:13 -0000 Steven Friedrich wrote: > Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> Steven Friedrich writes: >> >>> I've been having trouble with X11 ports, so I deleted all my packages >>> and tried to install xorg fresh. >>> >>> xorg port failed trying to build cairo, cairo failed because it >>> couldn't build libdrm, libdrm failed because cairo's headers weren't >>> installed. >>> >>> So in summary, I can't install cairo because it wants to build libdrm, >>> which won't build/install because it wants cairo. >>> >>> And I tried to install packages or the X11 distro from the ftp site >>> and also from my 7.2 RC-1 media. I tried setting the Options for >>> "any" as well as RELEASE_7_2_0, to no avail. My system is up and >>> running multi-user, so sysinstall failed to install any packages. >>> >>> I built cairo with make -k install, so it would brute force past the >>> error, and after that I built libdrm and cairo again with portupgrade >>> -fr libdrm cairo. >> >> Not only have I not seen or heard of this problem before, I can't see >> any direct dependency of either libdrm or cairo on the other. >> > pkg_info -r cairo\* shows that cairo needs libdrm. > Information for cairo-1.8.6_1,1: > > Depends on: > ... > Dependency: libdrm-2.4.9 > ... > > If anyone has a has a test system, where they could try my scenario, > i.e., deleting all installed packages and trying to install xorg, I > think you'll find it. > > I have two identical systems that I have mobile racks in, allowing me > to swap out the hard drives. So I have 4 sets of drives, Lightning, > Daemon, FreakinBSD, and Gandalf. I saw this issue with Daemon. I > need to update FreakinBSD and Gandalf, so I'll try this again and get > it in a log file. > > libdrm doesn't build without cairo.h in /usr/local/include, but it > won't be there until you're built cairo, which depends on libdrm. > As Lowell already said, I can't find any dependency between libdrm and cairo. My guess is you package database has one or more stale dependencies. However, if the purpose is to wipe all packages you don't even have to bother with pkg_delete. In such cases I simply rm /usr/local and /var/db/pkg (Keep /var/db/pkg/linux_base-fc* if you are using the linux binary compatibility, as this is not installed in /usr/local but /usr/compat). I do this routinely on test systems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 18:05:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B92106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65798FC1F for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Lyrfw-0007rg-Ah for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:05:00 +0000 Received: from pool-72-75-52-157.washdc.east.verizon.net ([72.75.52.157]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:05:00 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-75-52-157.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:05:00 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:05:58 -0400 Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-75-52-157.washdc.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Sender: news Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:05:02 -0000 PJ wrote: > I am rather surprised and disappointed that no one has any ideas about > using and/or installing a French-Canadian keyboard on FreeBSD. That is a > terrible bug in FreeBSD and a worse slur on the QuĂ©becois (or > Quebeckers) or are we being neglected and still considered "The White > Niggers of America"? ;-) > Anyway, everything I have tried does not work on FreeBSD or on xorg. > Cannot set it up or switch. > Somebody, please help. > Probably should start here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-localization.html The command locale -a will show all available locales, and the command locale -m will show all charmaps. You probably want one of: fr_CA.ISO8859-1 fr_CA.ISO8859-15 fr_CA.UTF-8 and a charmap to match above choice: ISO8859-1 ISO8859-15 UTF-8 I don't have direct experience with your situation, but I suspect you may want ISO8859-1 for what you described. More knowledgeable people may know. As far as the attitude is concerned, can't help with that. But you should know that such things just turn people "off", i.e, someone who may have wanted to try and help you will not, just because. Please keep it about FreeBSD, ask technical questions, and leave the rest somewhere else if you truly do want help. This kind of thing can be offensive to others. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 18:23:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12F7106567C for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7564C8FC12 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LyryC-0006Ad-E1; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:23:52 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n3SINpU3015279; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:23:51 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7462AFCA699; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:23:46 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:23:46 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: PJ Message-ID: <20090428182346.GA23945@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:23:52 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:23:58 -0000 On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 06:42:52AM -0400, PJ wrote: > > I am rather surprised and disappointed that no one has any ideas about > using and/or installing a French-Canadian keyboard on FreeBSD. That is a > terrible bug in FreeBSD and a worse slur on the Québecois (or > Quebeckers) or are we being neglected and still considered "The White > Niggers of America"? ;-) > Anyway, everything I have tried does not work on FreeBSD or on xorg. > Cannot set it up or switch. > Somebody, please help. > Have you tried: Option "XkbLayout" "ca(fr)" in your keyboard/inputdevice section of xorg.conf? For the console you want to have a look at kbdmap(1) and the list of maps. Looks like you want: keymap="fr_CA.iso.acc" in /etc/rc.conf Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 19:15:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EE8106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08F38FC1C for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090428191448.UOQL22327.mta11.charter.net@imp09> for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:14:48 -0400 Received: from larry.local ([24.176.106.117]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id l7Eo1b00B2Y01io057Eo6B; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:14:48 -0400 Message-Id: From: Charles Howse To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:14:48 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Running Apache with as few modules as possible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:15:02 -0000 Hi, I ran across this web page the other day, and it seems like a reasonable choice for me (running on kinda low-end hardware). I have these modules in my config for my "development server", and I use the term loosely, it's really my "make your mistakes here, instead of on the REAL web server" machine. I researched each module on the Apache site, and to the extent that I understood, chose whether to comment them or not. It loads without any syntax errors, and I have tested the things that I can think of that might require a module. I'm not doing any user authentication, no dynamic pages, no forms, some cgi scripts, all but 2 in SSI, the other 2 in Perl. Can anyone see anything that I've commented that I'll be sorry for? Can anyone suggest any more testing I should do? LoadModule security2_module libexec/apache22/mod_security2.so ##LoadModule authn_file_module libexec/apache22/mod_authn_file.so ##LoadModule authn_dbm_module libexec/apache22/mod_authn_dbm.so ##LoadModule authn_anon_module libexec/apache22/mod_authn_anon.so LoadModule authn_default_module libexec/apache22/mod_authn_default.so LoadModule authz_host_module libexec/apache22/mod_authz_host.so ##LoadModule authz_groupfile_module libexec/apache22/ mod_authz_groupfile.so ##LoadModule authz_user_module libexec/apache22/mod_authz_user.so ##LoadModule authz_dbm_module libexec/apache22/mod_authz_dbm.so ##LoadModule authz_owner_module libexec/apache22/mod_authz_owner.so LoadModule authz_default_module libexec/apache22/mod_authz_default.so ##LoadModule auth_basic_module libexec/apache22/mod_auth_basic.so ##LoadModule auth_digest_module libexec/apache22/mod_auth_digest.so LoadModule file_cache_module libexec/apache22/mod_file_cache.so LoadModule cache_module libexec/apache22/mod_cache.so LoadModule disk_cache_module libexec/apache22/mod_disk_cache.so LoadModule include_module libexec/apache22/mod_include.so LoadModule filter_module libexec/apache22/mod_filter.so ##LoadModule charset_lite_module libexec/apache22/mod_charset_lite.so ##LoadModule deflate_module libexec/apache22/mod_deflate.so LoadModule log_config_module libexec/apache22/mod_log_config.so LoadModule logio_module libexec/apache22/mod_logio.so ##LoadModule env_module libexec/apache22/mod_env.so LoadModule mime_magic_module libexec/apache22/mod_mime_magic.so ##LoadModule cern_meta_module libexec/apache22/mod_cern_meta.so ##LoadModule expires_module libexec/apache22/mod_expires.so ##LoadModule headers_module libexec/apache22/mod_headers.so ##LoadModule usertrack_module libexec/apache22/mod_usertrack.so LoadModule unique_id_module libexec/apache22/mod_unique_id.so ##LoadModule setenvif_module libexec/apache22/mod_setenvif.so #LoadModule ssl_module libexec/apache22/mod_ssl.so LoadModule mime_module libexec/apache22/mod_mime.so ##LoadModule dav_module libexec/apache22/mod_dav.so ##LoadModule status_module libexec/apache22/mod_status.so LoadModule autoindex_module libexec/apache22/mod_autoindex.so LoadModule asis_module libexec/apache22/mod_asis.so LoadModule info_module libexec/apache22/mod_info.so LoadModule cgi_module libexec/apache22/mod_cgi.so ##LoadModule dav_fs_module libexec/apache22/mod_dav_fs.so ##LoadModule vhost_alias_module libexec/apache22/mod_vhost_alias.so LoadModule negotiation_module libexec/apache22/mod_negotiation.so LoadModule dir_module libexec/apache22/mod_dir.so LoadModule imagemap_module libexec/apache22/mod_imagemap.so ##LoadModule actions_module libexec/apache22/mod_actions.so ##LoadModule speling_module libexec/apache22/mod_speling.so ##LoadModule userdir_module libexec/apache22/mod_userdir.so LoadModule alias_module libexec/apache22/mod_alias.so ##LoadModule rewrite_module libexec/apache22/mod_rewrite.so -- Thanks, Charles http://bubbabbq.homeunix.net Personal web site, Apache 2.2.11, FreeBSD-6.4-STABLE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 19:20:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238841065676 for ; 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Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:59:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Cipta H Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:59:04 -0400 Message-ID: <13b997e60904281159j48667794y9903181eeba68f6e@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Thinkpad APS in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:20:28 -0000 Hi all, I have a question. I have a Thinkpad T500 that is going to be installed with FreeBSD. Does the Active Protection System (HDD protection) work in FreeBSD? I've tried searching about it in google and found HDAPS for linux, and a FreeBSD version seems to be available but I haven't heard anything since 2005. If anyone can give my any new info on this I'll greatly appreciate it. Thanks! Cipta From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 19:29:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD69F106566B for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp114.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp114.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34008FC17 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from relay31.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay31.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DF7081B40ED; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:29:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay31.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id B6E791B40E4; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:29:42 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:29:39 -0400 From: Tom Worster To: Charles Howse , FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Running Apache with as few modules as possible Thread-Index: AcnIN6vt6UfLPb9aG0GTdk2l6LyDuQ== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Running Apache with as few modules as possible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:29:44 -0000 On 4/28/09 3:14 PM, "Charles Howse" wrote: > Can anyone see anything that I've commented that I'll be sorry for? > Can anyone suggest any more testing I should do? unfortunately i can't but i'd like to ask you to tell us, once you're done with removing modules, how much memory you saved relative to where you started. i'm curious because i went through a similar exercise not long ago and would be interested to compare notes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 19:30:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381EF106566B for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:30:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Midspan@phihongusa.com) Received: from pn3.xo.com (pn3.xo.com [207.88.224.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF468FC23 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Midspan@phihongusa.com) Received: from ocean.xo.com (ocean.xo.com [207.155.250.23]) by pn3.xo.com (ConcentricHost(2.70) External) with ESMTP id 503A32CBA for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:24:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (ConcentricHost relay 1.2); with ESMTP id D12637977; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:24:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IBM-PAIGE-PC (c-24-14-10-100.hsd1.il.comcast.net [24.14.10.100]) by ocean.xo.com (ConcentricHost(2.70) Relay) with ESMTP id D12637977 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:24:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Midspan Manager" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: Phihong USA Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:24:15 -0500 Message-Id: <20090428182404.D12637977@ocean.xo.com> Content-Type: text/plain ; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Myths about Power Over Ethernet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:30:55 -0000 Myths about Power Over Ethernet April 27, 2008 Power-over-Ethernet (PoE) technology integrates power and data across = standard Cat5/5e/6 network cabling and provides more flexibility in to= day=E2=80=99s workplace. PoE enables power to be supplied to network d= evices, such as IP phones, network cameras, and wireless access points= through a single, most often existing, network cable. When combined w= ith an uninterruptable power supply (UPS) a PoE network delivers conti= nuous operation and minimizes business downtime by eliminating most po= wer interruptions. With the ability to install endpoints in any locati= on PoE technology provides a scalable and flexible networking infrastr= ucture geared for growth and efficiency. =20 PoE Switches can provide all the power I need or will need. Today most switches are merely PoE-enabled. This means the majority r= ely on power management to share available power across the switch por= ts. The switches are designed with a smaller power supply that is typi= cally capable of powering the switch itself and providing the required= 15.4 watts of power over a limited number of ports.=20 For example: A 24-port PoE Switch with power management typically has= a 195-watt power supply. After the 40 watts needed to power the switc= h, you have approximately 155 watts remaining. If 12 of the 24 ports a= re used to connect end devices using 11.5 watts each, you would only h= ave 17 watts remaining to provide power on the last 12 ports. The mat= h doesn=E2=80=99t match the ports: 195W =E2=80=93 40W (switch) =E2=80=93= 138 (12 devices @ 11.5W/ea) =3D 17W left for power on 12 ports=20 Myth Busted: A PoE Switch is often not the best and most cost effectiv= e solution. =20 =20 A midspan and a PoE switch are the same. A PoE Midspan is not a switch. A Midspan is an additional PoE power s= ource that can be used to offer full power to all endpoint devices. P= oE Midspans (Power Hub or Power Injector) pass data from a switch and = =E2=80=98inject=E2=80=99 safe power acting as a patch panel of sorts. = Midspans are commonly used with either a non-PoE switch, an existing = PoE switch, or a new PoE switch in a network. In addition to offering = full power across all available ports, midspans costs substantially le= ss per port and overall than a new PoE enabled switch. Myth Busted: Midspans do not switch =E2=80=93 they make use of existin= g best-in-class switches. They inject safe power across all ports and= cost less than PoE switches. .=20 =20 Only a switch that has PoE built in should be used to power devices l= ike IP Phones, Access Points, and IP Security Cameras.=20 Switches were designed to, well, switch. PoE Switches are designed wi= th power management and have to distribute different power as required= to ports but there is often not enough power for all devices plus the= power required to complete the primary task - switching. Networks th= at have multiple devices like IP phones, IP cameras, wireless access p= oints quickly go beyond the limited capacity of managed power PoE swit= ches. As more PoE devices continue to grow in capabilities and market= share this managed power limitation will become more and more evident= =2E Midspans, in contrast to switches, were designed to provide full = power on every port and deliver safe and reliable power based on the i= ndustry standards (IEEE802.3af/at).=20 Myth Busted: Rather than relying on power management in a switch use a= midspan that can deliver full power (15.4W) to every port for all PoE= -enabled devices now and in the future. =20 =20 Ethernet devices not PoE-enabled (non 802.3af/at compliant) cannot be= powered using PoE technology.=20 Many devices do not directly accept Power-over-Ethernet but can still = use PoE technology. If the device uses less than 12.5 watts (802.3af) = or less than 50 watts (802.3at+) and connects to an IP Ethernet networ= k you can use a PoE splitter. PoE splitters enable you to accept PoE = power from any IEEE 802.3af/at compliant switch or midspan then separa= tes the data and power on to two seprate cables. The data is connecte= d to the end device through a standard RJ45 plug while the power is co= nnected using a standard 5.5 x 2.1 x 12mm Adapter Plug. Splitters can= also convert the input voltage to the required voltage for a non-PoE = device. Splitters are traditionally used with older network products w= hich only accept power through their (DC) jack and data through their = RJ-45 jack. Myth Busted: PoE splitters can be used in conjunction with PoE midspan= s and switches to provide both the data connectivity and power require= d by most endpoint devices.=20 =20 I need/will need additional PoE switch ports to power my IP cameras a= nd high-power pan, tilt, and zoom (PTZ) cameras.=20 Today, many devices have evolved into more advanced solutions with hig= her power requirements. The traditional approach was to endure a =E2=80= =9Cforklift upgrade=E2=80=9D. This meant buying new PoE switches at co= nsiderable cost and physically swapping out the existing switches to m= eet higher power requirements or add more powered ports. There is an e= asy and more cost-effective way =E2=80=93 separate the data and power = in the wiring closet (IBF). It is more efficient and costs less to sep= arate your data and power allowing you to keep your best-in-class busi= ness switch for your IP needs and supplement it where required with be= st-in-class midspan technology to power the endpoints.=20 Myth Busted: A PoE Switch is often not the best and most cost effectiv= e solution.=20 =20 All midspans are created equal . . . they are all the same.=20 Always select a best-in-class midspan. If you wanted to enhance your s= witched network wouldn=E2=80=99t use a best-in-class network switch? = Of course you would. A midspan designed and manufactured by a leading = power supply company that understands power, power requirements, and o= ne that delivers enterprise-level solutions.=20 Select a midspan manufacturer that has multiple members on the IEEE (P= oE) committee helping to define safe, new PoE standards. This ensures = that every midspan is designed to meet current and future IEEE specifi= cations for Power-over-Ethernet.=20 Select a midspan manufacturer that designs, manufactures, and tests it= s own product rather than outsourcing these tasks across the globe to = cut costs. Select a midspan that has a high-speed, common interface to access the= management console. A USB port is not as cheap as a serial port (RS-2= 32) but is faster, more user-friendly, and more common on high quality= midspans.=20 Myth Busted: Although there are many midspan manufacturers out there, = few have the power supply experience, quality controls, and manufactur= ing capability to produce best-in-class midspans. All midspans are NO= T created equal. =20 =20 =20 =C2=A92009 midspans.com. Midspans.com is a division of Phihong USA Inc. All Rights Reserved=20 You are being sent this email because you have expressed interest in = PoE products in the past. If you do not wish to receive emails from us= in the future and be removed from our list please click on the link b= elow.=20 To unsubscribe, please click here. www.phihong.com - 47800 Fremont Blvd., Fremont, CA. 94538 - Phone 510-= 445-0100=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 19:42:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44AA106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AA78FC18 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D3A09001498A98 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:42:25 +0100 Message-ID: <49F75C20.4050300@onetel.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:42:24 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: archive search working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:42:27 -0000 I'm not getting any replies when searching the freebsd questions archives at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ That's the page I get to if I google "freebsd questions archives" (and then a couple of clicks to get to the archives) . That page says the archives are rebuilt every 24 hours but also says last time it was rebuilt was Thursday, 08 Feb 2007. Also in passing, a failed search gives me three hints: Check the spelling of the search word(s) you used. If the spelling is correct and you only used one word, try using one or more similar search words with "Any." If the spelling is correct and you used more than one word with "Any," try using one or more similar search words with "Any." If the spelling is correct and you used more than one word with "All," try using one or more of the same words with "Any." But the end of the second suggestion is the same as the end of the first and the third is a non-sequitor. I suspect the last word of the second hint should be "All". While writing this I have discovered that going to www.freebsd.org and following the mailing lists link then the link to search I get to http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists which does seem to work. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 19:51:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF416106566B for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8623B8FC16 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIT009WOTSD6UF1@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:50:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49F75E4F.9050200@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:51:43 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <20090428182346.GA23945@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-reply-to: <20090428182346.GA23945@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Cc: Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:51:49 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 06:42:52AM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> I am rather surprised and disappointed that no one has any ideas about >> using and/or installing a French-Canadian keyboard on FreeBSD. That is a >> terrible bug in FreeBSD and a worse slur on the Québecois (or >> Quebeckers) or are we being neglected and still considered "The White >> Niggers of America"? ;-) >> Anyway, everything I have tried does not work on FreeBSD or on xorg. >> Cannot set it up or switch. >> Somebody, please help. >> >> > > Have you tried: > > Option "XkbLayout" "ca(fr)" > > in your keyboard/inputdevice section of xorg.conf? > > For the console you want to have a look at kbdmap(1) and the list of > maps. > > Looks like you want: > > keymap="fr_CA.iso.acc" > > in /etc/rc.conf > > > Regards, > > I probably should have posted all the stuff I tried. My apologies. Yes, I had tried similar Options as described in a number of sites, including, I think FreeBSD and Xorg. Only the man pages showed different inputs. I don't know where you got the fr_CA.iso.acc; my installation showed the available keymaps as fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd kbdmap -s returns You are not on a virtual console - expect strange side effects lang_default = en dialect = fr_...ISO8859-1 lang_abk = fr Currently supported languages: da de el en es fr hy iw no pl pt ru sv uk ===== Interesting, eh? where does fr_CA fit in and how? For Xorg here is what I had found on http://markmail.org/messsage/yvq7qqnqhq33hqgf Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle" That is what I had tried; it didn't work. I had tried keymap="fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd" and that gave(gives) the correct keyboard on the console. Except, it spews out French error messages (tiresome=ennuiyant). The Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" - I have no idea where it comes from and I sure would like to know what to enter for that to try it out. And where does the "grp:toggle" come from? I just went through the same routine and I can't find any combination that works with the information I have been able to gather. :-( -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 19:53:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE21910656C9 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8508D8FC16 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIT007HKTUPUPG1@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:52:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49F75EA4.7050609@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:53:08 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: nightrecon@verizon.net References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> In-reply-to: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:53:16 -0000 Michael Powell wrote: > PJ wrote: > > >> I am rather surprised and disappointed that no one has any ideas about >> using and/or installing a French-Canadian keyboard on FreeBSD. That is a >> terrible bug in FreeBSD and a worse slur on the QuĂ©becois (or >> Quebeckers) or are we being neglected and still considered "The White >> Niggers of America"? ;-) >> Anyway, everything I have tried does not work on FreeBSD or on xorg. >> Cannot set it up or switch. >> Somebody, please help. >> >> > > Probably should start here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-localization.html > > The command locale -a will show all available locales, and the command > locale -m will show all charmaps. You probably want one of: > > fr_CA.ISO8859-1 > fr_CA.ISO8859-15 > fr_CA.UTF-8 > > > and a charmap to match above choice: > > ISO8859-1 > ISO8859-15 > UTF-8 > > I don't have direct experience with your situation, but I suspect you may > want ISO8859-1 for what you described. More knowledgeable people may know. > > As far as the attitude is concerned, can't help with that. But you should > know that such things just turn people "off", i.e, someone who may have > wanted to try and help you will not, just because. Please keep it about > FreeBSD, ask technical questions, and leave the rest somewhere else if you > truly do want help. This kind of thing can be offensive to others. > > -Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I appreciate your response. Thanks for the suggestion. 1. I've already seen that page and a number of other. 2. I have tried the options you suggest, as, obviously, given in the link. 3. About the only thing I got at one point was to get the server to spew out French, which is not what I want. Xorg did not respond at all to anything I could throw at it. 4. As to the attitude; I don't have one. And if anyone gets offended, I could care less as that would only be in their own narrow minds. Did you see the wink? ;-) ... I love to kid around and of course I like to provoke a little. It's all in good fun. But then one must understand the nature of fun or comedy - we do not only laugh because some idiot thinks it is funny that someone slips on a banana; true comedy stems from truth: we laugh because we have been exposed to something that is true or real and after we have laughed we think about why we laughed. Not too many comics or comedian understand that. And that is why there are so few that are really funny. :-D 5. If it's about the Quebecois, Boris Vian is the source & author of that book from the 60's, I believe. 6. If it's about FreeBSD, I think it's the best OS around, but I am disappointed that fr_CA cannot be set up. I works magnificently on WimpyOS. I just responded to another suggestion with my explanation of what still does not work. Thanks, again. -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 20:17:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A111065672 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:17:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803738FC24 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:17:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIT00MIZUZV6451@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:16:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49F7642D.7090607@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:16:45 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <20090428182346.GA23945@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <49F75E4F.9050200@videotron.ca> In-reply-to: <49F75E4F.9050200@videotron.ca> Cc: Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:17:01 -0000 PJ wrote: > Frank Shute wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 06:42:52AM -0400, PJ wrote: >> >> >>> I am rather surprised and disappointed that no one has any ideas about >>> using and/or installing a French-Canadian keyboard on FreeBSD. That is a >>> terrible bug in FreeBSD and a worse slur on the Québecois (or >>> Quebeckers) or are we being neglected and still considered "The White >>> Niggers of America"? ;-) >>> Anyway, everything I have tried does not work on FreeBSD or on xorg. >>> Cannot set it up or switch. >>> Somebody, please help. >>> >>> >>> >> Have you tried: >> >> Option "XkbLayout" "ca(fr)" >> >> in your keyboard/inputdevice section of xorg.conf? >> >> For the console you want to have a look at kbdmap(1) and the list of >> maps. >> >> Looks like you want: >> >> keymap="fr_CA.iso.acc" >> >> in /etc/rc.conf >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> > I probably should have posted all the stuff I tried. My apologies. > Yes, I had tried similar Options as described in a number of sites, > including, I think FreeBSD and Xorg. Only the man pages showed different > inputs. I don't know where you got the fr_CA.iso.acc; my installation > showed the available keymaps as fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd > kbdmap -s returns You are not on a virtual console - expect strange side > effects > lang_default = en > dialect = fr_...ISO8859-1 > lang_abk = fr > Currently supported languages: da de el en es fr hy iw no pl pt ru sv uk > ===== > Interesting, eh? where does fr_CA fit in and how? > For Xorg here is what I had found on > http://markmail.org/messsage/yvq7qqnqhq33hqgf > Option "XkbModel" "pc104" > Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" > Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle" > That is what I had tried; it didn't work. > I had tried keymap="fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd" and that gave(gives) the correct > keyboard on the console. Except, it spews out French error messages > (tiresome=ennuiyant). > The Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" - I have no idea where it comes from and > I sure would like to know what to enter for that to try it out. And > where does the "grp:toggle" come from? > I just went through the same routine and I can't find any combination > that works with the information I have been able to gather. > :-( > As I continue to play with this, I think the guy who wrote the "XkbOption" "us,ca" erred if we think about this logically: the keyboards are not us or ca - there are none that I can find. They are en or fr (with suffixes for locales, like US or FR,CA, etc.) So, logically if the sytax were correct, it should be "XkbOption" "fr,en" right? fr for the installed kbd in rc.conf, en for the default? Well. That doesn't work either. Now, I'm changing the xorg.conf without rebooting. I close xorg and then startx again. right? Seems logical, as we're not changing the rc.conf. This is driving me nuts. >:o -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 20:45:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11D2106566C for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F90D8FC0C for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so314805mue.3 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:45:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JjmTgRcxC1vPRzq6lod7U7wjssOe6Js1u8J463uhGdI=; b=qXIwzP5ZyMhGooc5ug0gEb7+IHXSVRN+7ZdxFaPdGyNNjaiNEeAYExqb+UygDkwVbp PneIFwU4wwT2d79YNl2B2y9A377BWv1YzriNKLzrQD02jHoJCoKor4cDjbYsAmnFSpKu nWNP/9dtSzNZdfgv2xcTxZ/Fm8yxiezzQvIz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=RFjQRWyGWeDEx0uabmJxSx46P8XIxi9prej4LrQscmDHOO4qh/R1ajt7NPr7w37+xx R7alF27LmCFwMw3l9GNGUltMdVa0naIaRgbqIZcXTLpRMGgxa3x+7F5ync+nrF4rUY4h o2eKJxr5TvuMwEw9GMZ2Ttq6BOtXDB/bnTaCA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.219.17 with SMTP id w17mr4157738muq.36.1240951501066; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:45:01 -0700 (PDT) From: n j Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:44:41 +0200 Message-ID: <92bcbda50904281344yba00584wcb32444c4e817cca@mail.gmail.com> To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: fixit console with sshd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:45:02 -0000 I was just wondering if someone could give me a quick advice on how (or at least confirm it's possible) to start sshd in fixit console i.e. how to boot FreeBSD off the CD1 (6.4-RELEASE) and enable SSH access to it. What I have tried (unsuccessfully) so far is: 1) copying sshd startup script (and dependencies like missing sshd_config, rc.subr, sbin/sysctl) from /dist directory - sshd script (with forcestart to ignore rc.conf knob) executes and does nothing 2) chroot the /dist directory, mount_devfs and then start sshd - script tries to generate host keypair and fails to write them due to read-only filesystem I believe booting off a live CD and restoring a backup over network should be a relatively common recovery scenario, but googling around produced no usable results other than "get FreeSBIE live cd". TIA, -- Nino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 21:16:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221C6106564A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from mx06.syd.iprimus.net.au (mx06.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.76.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EB68FC1A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQEAHcO90nKQ1a3/2dsb2JhbACQK750g3MF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,262,1238940000"; d="scan'208";a="183087076" Received: from unknown (HELO enterprise.blackthorn.nu) ([202.67.86.183]) by smtp06.syd.iprimus.net.au with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2009 07:16:18 +1000 Message-ID: <49F77241.3020601@maydias.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:16:49 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090410) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Has SVN server changed ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:16:21 -0000 I have been trying for the last couple weeks to update my ports etc via svn but each time i try i get the below msg, im running latest updated ports atm via csup on a FREEBSD7.1-STABLE AMD64 system.. enterprise# svn up /usr/area51 svn: OPTIONS of 'https://kf.athame.co.uk/kde-freebsd/trunk/area51': could not connect to server (https://kf.athame.co.uk) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 21:19:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B13210656D1 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749C38FC1B for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIT00FTRXWZIN50@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49F772F5.208@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:19:49 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: X windows manager for French-Canadian keyboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:19:49 -0000 Would anyone know of a simple windows manager that supports French-Canadian keyboard? Using fr_CA keymapping - fluxbox is very simple and very nice, but does not support the fr_CA stuff. This is evident from error messages output when shutting it down. :-( So, I have to find one that does. Thanks for any help. -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 21:28:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D705106566B for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:28:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B95CE8FC14 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 Apr 2009 21:01:55 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO bobcat.edu) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 28 Apr 2009 23:01:55 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+DfbF+vquDPauRy7sHPKlgLqY07DJyvUFlE2kbH8 +XFy9vPmy3+AH7 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:01:35 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20090428230135.2d0d945d.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> Organization: private X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) X-Face: q+q_R4e*MWOR3888mPIAZc/FNaS!=`.[B6uaBUuT)S0@80[:sij*]j?Vo57(D|Gt-kv8h\y M~EX/qT%sIl^Z(x'h(r}f%$KLA[ZBIpzr{$|9w!e9]>isP8uu-A6k:}[)={{B}(@}*lOADil'U|daw xlj24v2,"<%CX2@vhLl+yo_u.K Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.68 Cc: Subject: X Window - how to get the standard font X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:28:42 -0000 Hi Daemons, a little question: I open a shell and invoke: #xmessage 'hello world' - it opens the window, but a rather tiny font. So I invoke: #xmessage -fn -*-fixed-*-*-*-*-20-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* 'hello world' - the same appears in the fontsize I like. Now the question: Can I set the bigger font somewhere, so that i.e. xmessage appears always in the preset, bigger font without typing the whole -fn -*-*.... string in? Somewhere in .xinitrc? Checked the man pages, but its a science to find a solution there. Thanks herb langhans -- ******* Herbert Langhans, Warschau ******* Sprachtraining Langhans ******* http://www.langhans.com.pl ******* herbert.raimund@gmx.net ******* NIP 526-229-61-51 ******* Regon 014911759 ******* Tel. 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 21:36:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF2A1065748 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) Received: from mxsf08.insightbb.com (mxsf08.insightbb.com [74.128.0.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24AA28FC1A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,262,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="666359915" Received: from unknown (HELO asav01.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf08.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2009 17:36:20 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoACANsT90lKg4ed/2dsb2JhbAAIzxeDcwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,262,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="211976418" Received: from 74-131-135-157.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO [192.168.2.3]) ([74.131.135.157]) by asavout01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2009 17:36:20 -0400 Message-ID: <49F77618.9090203@InsightBB.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:33:12 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <49F5F9F9.5050506@InsightBB.com> <443absdhg1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <49F73F43.30101@InsightBB.com> <49F74466.7050409@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <49F74466.7050409@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chicken and egg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:36:21 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Steven Friedrich wrote: >> Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>> Steven Friedrich writes: >>> >>>> I've been having trouble with X11 ports, so I deleted all my packages >>>> and tried to install xorg fresh. >>>> >>>> xorg port failed trying to build cairo, cairo failed because it >>>> couldn't build libdrm, libdrm failed because cairo's headers weren't >>>> installed. >>>> >>>> So in summary, I can't install cairo because it wants to build libdrm, >>>> which won't build/install because it wants cairo. >>>> >>>> And I tried to install packages or the X11 distro from the ftp site >>>> and also from my 7.2 RC-1 media. I tried setting the Options for >>>> "any" as well as RELEASE_7_2_0, to no avail. My system is up and >>>> running multi-user, so sysinstall failed to install any packages. >>>> >>>> I built cairo with make -k install, so it would brute force past the >>>> error, and after that I built libdrm and cairo again with portupgrade >>>> -fr libdrm cairo. >>> Not only have I not seen or heard of this problem before, I can't see >>> any direct dependency of either libdrm or cairo on the other. >>> >> pkg_info -r cairo\* shows that cairo needs libdrm. >> Information for cairo-1.8.6_1,1: >> >> Depends on: >> ... >> Dependency: libdrm-2.4.9 >> ... >> >> If anyone has a has a test system, where they could try my scenario, >> i.e., deleting all installed packages and trying to install xorg, I >> think you'll find it. >> >> I have two identical systems that I have mobile racks in, allowing me >> to swap out the hard drives. So I have 4 sets of drives, Lightning, >> Daemon, FreakinBSD, and Gandalf. I saw this issue with Daemon. I >> need to update FreakinBSD and Gandalf, so I'll try this again and get >> it in a log file. >> >> libdrm doesn't build without cairo.h in /usr/local/include, but it >> won't be there until you're built cairo, which depends on libdrm. >> > As Lowell already said, I can't find any dependency between libdrm and > cairo. My guess is you package database has one or more stale > dependencies. However, if the purpose is to wipe all packages you don't > even have to bother with pkg_delete. In such cases I simply rm > /usr/local and /var/db/pkg (Keep /var/db/pkg/linux_base-fc* if you are > using the linux binary compatibility, as this is not installed in > /usr/local but /usr/compat). I do this routinely on test systems. > > On a system with cairo installed, try pkg_info -r cairo\*|grep drm Here's from one of my systems: Dependency: libdrm-2.4.9 Since I used pkg_delete -a to get rid of all ports and packages, I couldn't have any stale dependencies, could I ? After that I went to /usr/ports/x11/xorg and did a make install and it failed. My ports are recent, I'm tracking 7.2-RC1, etc. -- Steven Friedrich Lexington, KY 40509 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 21:47:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D881065674 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B1D8FC1E for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:47:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so511244ywe.13 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:47:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6Ay/CM3GO++bFZYjGMqSeKwkdMpO426NM9XNomgZsgY=; b=V+0gA/gaCTmbpKhLcU8GFddhAkQQJlGKyUh0QcsGdG+UamDEzParHT3O/So2pKgyyH Ly3pL+yF8cAoKWrzNbCu7y7wZvkM/3RAWdnHj9xiCXlaFzcfyi65hTFVjgwmV1tUt+xg 8BXey+JOuFCfcN4l0zXL798X/uQIR7bM6zzIs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O6ZoDX7y793lq4WJOhGjig/6tAx9uZOdXKXVGB0gLkGhJgOsMalsqeZ/zKJoUl18oE 9FHKs7ExyG7pWMtJTPZK7Ci9tKEQYn8gPy1Qv5ZSsjnxedZzUCpXwIPlGiUvxgDafbNz AlYKsuTEVzjcLSS5SKhKT2p3CkTmBVA62OQkw= Received: by 10.90.87.5 with SMTP id k5mr8989407agb.86.1240955268168; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 39sm452493agb.31.2009.04.28.14.47.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49F7798D.1070000@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:47:57 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <49F5F9F9.5050506@InsightBB.com> <443absdhg1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <49F73F43.30101@InsightBB.com> <49F74466.7050409@otenet.gr> <49F77618.9090203@InsightBB.com> In-Reply-To: <49F77618.9090203@InsightBB.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Chicken and egg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:47:49 -0000 Steven Friedrich wrote: > Manolis Kiagias wrote: >> Steven Friedrich wrote: >>> Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>>> Steven Friedrich writes: >>>> >>>>> I've been having trouble with X11 ports, so I deleted all my packages >>>>> and tried to install xorg fresh. >>>>> >>>>> xorg port failed trying to build cairo, cairo failed because it >>>>> couldn't build libdrm, libdrm failed because cairo's headers weren't >>>>> installed. >>>>> >>>>> So in summary, I can't install cairo because it wants to build >>>>> libdrm, >>>>> which won't build/install because it wants cairo. >>>>> >>>>> And I tried to install packages or the X11 distro from the ftp site >>>>> and also from my 7.2 RC-1 media. I tried setting the Options for >>>>> "any" as well as RELEASE_7_2_0, to no avail. My system is up and >>>>> running multi-user, so sysinstall failed to install any packages. >>>>> >>>>> I built cairo with make -k install, so it would brute force past the >>>>> error, and after that I built libdrm and cairo again with portupgrade >>>>> -fr libdrm cairo. >>>> Not only have I not seen or heard of this problem before, I can't see >>>> any direct dependency of either libdrm or cairo on the other. >>>> >>> pkg_info -r cairo\* shows that cairo needs libdrm. >>> Information for cairo-1.8.6_1,1: >>> >>> Depends on: >>> ... >>> Dependency: libdrm-2.4.9 >>> ... >>> >>> If anyone has a has a test system, where they could try my scenario, >>> i.e., deleting all installed packages and trying to install xorg, I >>> think you'll find it. >>> >>> I have two identical systems that I have mobile racks in, allowing me >>> to swap out the hard drives. So I have 4 sets of drives, Lightning, >>> Daemon, FreakinBSD, and Gandalf. I saw this issue with Daemon. I >>> need to update FreakinBSD and Gandalf, so I'll try this again and get >>> it in a log file. >>> >>> libdrm doesn't build without cairo.h in /usr/local/include, but it >>> won't be there until you're built cairo, which depends on libdrm. >>> >> As Lowell already said, I can't find any dependency between libdrm and >> cairo. My guess is you package database has one or more stale >> dependencies. However, if the purpose is to wipe all packages you don't >> even have to bother with pkg_delete. In such cases I simply rm >> /usr/local and /var/db/pkg (Keep /var/db/pkg/linux_base-fc* if you are >> using the linux binary compatibility, as this is not installed in >> /usr/local but /usr/compat). I do this routinely on test systems. >> >> > On a system with cairo installed, try pkg_info -r cairo\*|grep drm > > Here's from one of my systems: > Dependency: libdrm-2.4.9 > > Since I used pkg_delete -a to get rid of all ports and packages, I > couldn't have any stale dependencies, could I ? Yes, you could. > > After that I went to /usr/ports/x11/xorg and did a make install and it > failed. My ports are recent, I'm tracking 7.2-RC1, etc. > -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 22:13:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31455106566C for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6B88FC12 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:13:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so519816ywe.13 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:13:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Gn1PtAj2p06b6vReeOYyzqHBjXq+GFXvS6yZbjXT2ws=; b=RAQFEPRuRGyKaOf9f4eIZ+GX8KsVInli4INz3KSuyWxFctCA8nKaGJVNEhNm77qe5z J2qSatuCFFXpy+fSy9PD5SBxq1tGZ4bPhJNiqyYShR8y41ptTCTbHT3ftGAlRPHU6u1U W6B78ggZ9H7UO/q1st1rLWgWA8HTZ3SglH1yg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=c0DaBsA8DCFSfpSpSNXXEtjZf/xpk11q8NWL45XgmIgTaYRG24ZyVkTJk2l8QnsvEv /0qptQwHU6U9mIzftmf0jbCo1Cta6yeLucEFnFBGR6cRfuv5JpvNLxNsrkl41tG/TGuQ eZNFJLMPlAurMm1+bWIb0YSd5UQcC8lSKGZso= Received: by 10.90.82.17 with SMTP id f17mr9051723agb.41.1240956826200; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm490337agb.25.2009.04.28.15.13.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49F77FA3.4010009@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:13:55 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <49F5F9F9.5050506@InsightBB.com> <443absdhg1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <49F73F43.30101@InsightBB.com> <49F74466.7050409@otenet.gr> <49F77618.9090203@InsightBB.com> In-Reply-To: <49F77618.9090203@InsightBB.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Chicken and egg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:13:47 -0000 Steven Friedrich wrote: > Manolis Kiagias wrote: >> Steven Friedrich wrote: >>> Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>>> Steven Friedrich writes: >>>> >>>>> I've been having trouble with X11 ports, so I deleted all my packages >>>>> and tried to install xorg fresh. >>>>> >>>>> xorg port failed trying to build cairo, cairo failed because it >>>>> couldn't build libdrm, libdrm failed because cairo's headers weren't >>>>> installed. >>>>> >>>>> So in summary, I can't install cairo because it wants to build >>>>> libdrm, >>>>> which won't build/install because it wants cairo. >>>>> >>>>> And I tried to install packages or the X11 distro from the ftp site >>>>> and also from my 7.2 RC-1 media. I tried setting the Options for >>>>> "any" as well as RELEASE_7_2_0, to no avail. My system is up and >>>>> running multi-user, so sysinstall failed to install any packages. >>>>> >>>>> I built cairo with make -k install, so it would brute force past the >>>>> error, and after that I built libdrm and cairo again with portupgrade >>>>> -fr libdrm cairo. >>>> Not only have I not seen or heard of this problem before, I can't see >>>> any direct dependency of either libdrm or cairo on the other. >>>> >>> pkg_info -r cairo\* shows that cairo needs libdrm. >>> Information for cairo-1.8.6_1,1: >>> >>> Depends on: >>> ... >>> Dependency: libdrm-2.4.9 >>> ... >>> >>> If anyone has a has a test system, where they could try my scenario, >>> i.e., deleting all installed packages and trying to install xorg, I >>> think you'll find it. >>> >>> I have two identical systems that I have mobile racks in, allowing me >>> to swap out the hard drives. So I have 4 sets of drives, Lightning, >>> Daemon, FreakinBSD, and Gandalf. I saw this issue with Daemon. I >>> need to update FreakinBSD and Gandalf, so I'll try this again and get >>> it in a log file. >>> >>> libdrm doesn't build without cairo.h in /usr/local/include, but it >>> won't be there until you're built cairo, which depends on libdrm. >>> >> As Lowell already said, I can't find any dependency between libdrm and >> cairo. My guess is you package database has one or more stale >> dependencies. However, if the purpose is to wipe all packages you don't >> even have to bother with pkg_delete. In such cases I simply rm >> /usr/local and /var/db/pkg (Keep /var/db/pkg/linux_base-fc* if you are >> using the linux binary compatibility, as this is not installed in >> /usr/local but /usr/compat). I do this routinely on test systems. >> >> > On a system with cairo installed, try pkg_info -r cairo\*|grep drm > > Here's from one of my systems: > Dependency: libdrm-2.4.9 > > Since I used pkg_delete -a to get rid of all ports and packages, I > couldn't have any stale dependencies, could I ? > > After that I went to /usr/ports/x11/xorg and did a make install and it > failed. My ports are recent, I'm tracking 7.2-RC1, etc. > my system setup is similar to yours. cairo depends on libdrm in my setup, however I can find nowhere that libdrm depends on cairo. Does the following complete successfully, if not what errors do you see? update ports eg - portsnap fetch extract cd /usr/ports/graphics/libdrm make clean distclean deinstall reinstall -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 22:14:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C5E106579E for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:14:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8E88FC15 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:14:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIU002FE0EYV550@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49F77FDD.5090105@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:14:53 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <20090428182346.GA23945@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <49F75E4F.9050200@videotron.ca> In-reply-to: <49F75E4F.9050200@videotron.ca> Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:14:54 -0000 PJ wrote: > Frank Shute wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 06:42:52AM -0400, PJ wrote: >> >> >>> I am rather surprised and disappointed that no one has any ideas about >>> using and/or installing a French-Canadian keyboard on FreeBSD. That is a >>> terrible bug in FreeBSD and a worse slur on the Québecois (or >>> Quebeckers) or are we being neglected and still considered "The White >>> Niggers of America"? ;-) >>> Anyway, everything I have tried does not work on FreeBSD or on xorg. >>> Cannot set it up or switch. >>> Somebody, please help. >>> >>> >>> >> Have you tried: >> >> Option "XkbLayout" "ca(fr)" >> >> in your keyboard/inputdevice section of xorg.conf? >> >> For the console you want to have a look at kbdmap(1) and the list of >> maps. >> >> Looks like you want: >> >> keymap="fr_CA.iso.acc" >> >> in /etc/rc.conf >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> > I probably should have posted all the stuff I tried. My apologies. > Yes, I had tried similar Options as described in a number of sites, > including, I think FreeBSD and Xorg. Only the man pages showed different > inputs. I don't know where you got the fr_CA.iso.acc; my installation > showed the available keymaps as fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd > kbdmap -s returns You are not on a virtual console - expect strange side > effects > lang_default = en > dialect = fr_...ISO8859-1 > lang_abk = fr > Currently supported languages: da de el en es fr hy iw no pl pt ru sv uk > ===== > Interesting, eh? where does fr_CA fit in and how? > For Xorg here is what I had found on > http://markmail.org/messsage/yvq7qqnqhq33hqgf > Option "XkbModel" "pc104" > Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" > Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle" > That is what I had tried; it didn't work. > I had tried keymap="fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd" and that gave(gives) the correct > keyboard on the console. Except, it spews out French error messages > (tiresome=ennuiyant). > The Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" - I have no idea where it comes from and > I sure would like to know what to enter for that to try it out. And > where does the "grp:toggle" come from? > I just went through the same routine and I can't find any combination > that works with the information I have been able to gather. > :-( > For what it's worth, I have been able to set up the French-Canadian keyboard in a hap-hazard way so, at least, is works partially. Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle" Using the above xorg parameters, the keyboard limps. The French-CA is a bastardized mapping which work only if you use 2 keys for č ç ŕ, etc - in XP these are one stroke keys, but Fbsd you have to hit the ] key before c to get ç (ç) and the same for the others, except for é (é) Oh, well, another day lost... but, I guess it's better to limp than not to walk at all. :-\ -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 22:15:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A58E10656AC for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C228FC17 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:15:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090428221527.UMCA2647.mta31.charter.net@imp09>; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:15:27 -0400 Received: from larry.local ([24.176.106.117]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id lAFS1b00L2Y01io05AFS25; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:15:27 -0400 Message-Id: From: Charles Howse To: Tom Worster In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:15:26 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Running Apache with as few modules as possible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:15:41 -0000 On Apr 28, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Tom Worster wrote: > On 4/28/09 3:14 PM, "Charles Howse" wrote: > >> Can anyone see anything that I've commented that I'll be sorry for? >> Can anyone suggest any more testing I should do? > > unfortunately i can't but i'd like to ask you to tell us, once > you're done > with removing modules, how much memory you saved relative to where you > started. > > i'm curious because i went through a similar exercise not long ago > and would > be interested to compare notes. OK, here we go: With Apache running on the development machine, modules commented as in my first post -- CPU: 0.8% user, 0.0% nice, 0.4% system, 0.8% interrupt, 98.1% idle Mem: 27M Active, 139M Inact, 64M Wired, 11M Cache, 34M Buf, 648K Free Swap: 512M Total, 60K Used, 512M Free Apache running on the same machine without any modules commented except mod_ssl -- CPU: 0.8% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.4% interrupt, 98.1% idle Mem: 27M Active, 134M Inact, 64M Wired, 13M Cache, 34M Buf, 3584K Free Swap: 512M Total, 60K Used, 512M Free I just ran 'top' after starting httpd to get these figures, maybe I should have done something different? 'bout the only thing that makes sense to me is I have more Free Memory when commenting all those modules. What is the list's opinion on this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 22:45:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BE6106566B for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB79C8FC08 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so671148gxk.19 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:45:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wWYZygOwNZmwRFrbx15UitdN16e8JqmOsmDeCJlgSXY=; b=P2OKNSnSZ3NsefgWkLO1TfkFHau0VmcV+BW4VB9rdMx+i7KKy8F3344DJ9/t+c34sV w/Jt/UbqngV9hise5dPWEV5jKd6izaD+Ug3fftnaWPvh77BSmsBkkGNXnCAqLASL0tKB 9H1FVqqO2LjGuyBIJzPcBZKHZJKHZwSfYZqJU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ec85u040hXxOgj1LY0UA/nsATJD84tcSipP1+clmjPSSX7++X3E1H2cKYKvVsK4cXq e/D15mYfOG8v4VKhdhojnGiGus73PfJ1N7IwWNrblwbrvw8wtDzOOqQenB04AMaNJI3O p4dV8Eow+2Ver0jtB1JnWzMLCO9gHhea+oOAY= Received: by 10.90.81.11 with SMTP id e11mr9042219agb.119.1240958701726; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?216.16.29.53? (host-53.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm530850agb.35.2009.04.28.15.45.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49F786F6.8000405@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:45:10 -0500 From: Adam Vandemore User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Running Apache with as few modules as possible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:45:03 -0000 Charles Howse wrote: > > On Apr 28, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Tom Worster wrote: > >> On 4/28/09 3:14 PM, "Charles Howse" wrote: >> >>> Can anyone see anything that I've commented that I'll be sorry for? >>> Can anyone suggest any more testing I should do? >> >> unfortunately i can't but i'd like to ask you to tell us, once you're >> done >> with removing modules, how much memory you saved relative to where you >> started. >> >> i'm curious because i went through a similar exercise not long ago >> and would >> be interested to compare notes. > > OK, here we go: > With Apache running on the development machine, modules commented as > in my first post -- > CPU: 0.8% user, 0.0% nice, 0.4% system, 0.8% interrupt, 98.1% idle > Mem: 27M Active, 139M Inact, 64M Wired, 11M Cache, 34M Buf, 648K Free > Swap: 512M Total, 60K Used, 512M Free > > Apache running on the same machine without any modules commented > except mod_ssl -- > CPU: 0.8% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.4% interrupt, 98.1% idle > Mem: 27M Active, 134M Inact, 64M Wired, 13M Cache, 34M Buf, 3584K Free > Swap: 512M Total, 60K Used, 512M Free > > I just ran 'top' after starting httpd to get these figures, maybe I > should have done something different? > 'bout the only thing that makes sense to me is I have more Free Memory > when commenting all those modules. > What is the list's opinion on this? > You should probably use pmap for a more accurate comparison. you may also want to set CFLAGS= -Os for size considerations(CPUTYPE as well), and remove unnecessary modules from kernel if you haven't done so already. -- Adam Vandemore Systems Administrator IMED Mobility (605) 498-1610 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 23:14:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812B91065679 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CBA8FC13 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D3A090014B6D50 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:14:24 +0100 Message-ID: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:14:24 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ndis0 interrrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:14:27 -0000 Hi all I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54Gv5 wireless pccard working. It has a Marvell 8335 chip. I've created a module with ndisgen and I can see ndis0. When I up it with ifconfig I immediately get repeated messages: Apr 28 23:23:19 pcbsd kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; throttling interrupt source As soon as I down the interface the messages stop. I've also tried starting ndis0 with polling # ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.1.20 polling but still get the messages. I guess this driver doesn't support polling. Or I've got the syntax wrong. According to vmstat -i irq11 is used by cbb0 and pcm0. ndis0 is on irq9 irq9: cbb1 ndis0++ This is on PCBSD 7.1 which is FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE Any way I can get this thing working? Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 23:17:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E9F106566B for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455CC8FC13 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3SNI5wo016993 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:18:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20090428180900.026d7900@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:17:24 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090428-0, 04/28/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2-exp/9301/Tue Apr 28 13:49:48 2009 on betty.computinginnovations.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: n3SNI5wo016993 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: cannot get FreeBSD 7.X to load on HP z400 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:17:59 -0000 I cannot get FreeBSD 7.X to load on an HP z400. I have tried 7.1 i386=20 release, 7.1 amd64 release, 7.2 amd64 RC2, 8.0 amd64 current. In all versions the loader stops just after the message: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/md0 I have tried to simplify the setup of this unit to a single SATA drive, and= =20 a single SATA CD/DVD drive. I have tried various BIOS settings, turning on and off cores in the CPU,=20 changing other IO setting, but still the install hangs. The z400 has the Intel=AE X58 Express chipset and a 4 core W3520 Xeon=20 CPU. This particular unit has 4GB RAM. If I can get the amd64 version to= =20 load on it, I'd like to run it with more RAM. But obviously the first=20 hurdle is getting the OS to boot to sysinstall. Any help would be appreciated. -Derek derek at computinginnovations.com --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 01:05:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B18106564A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537DA8FC12 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so567317ywe.13 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:05:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eUBVg42junByZy+fCePVJcFwBb76iFJkj0XZFbat9L4=; b=N+JXLsu1WHdpo1f2kiIqZwXUNzsd5rhSe4i40rCCkfjuyWWGvtqCIGkd+IkrFWcujN dqGVhQXDxU5IakVgUCVmCZWgXFCsbREHpGL9SzG2NaijeubzF0iohAKlz9WWoHB8tkPk Na/YCjlcWYYCEuZFlHtqVvZJytj6P3DeXr+jM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rXamkYZ6EuhX+CVbyqrMDXmpxz8kRPMY7biiD2wawQ4mqAKFu0pPPaquyZit4bRLPk EeE+nLX12BvZO+J2hLXQq6shtL0rUAhxH7XhLD4dI6DpfNXaQ/U8btc5bbHRH4ccq/wv s3VQIB93i8idftKJ+yJKyFRlxJmr2FSBhS1zA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.247.14 with SMTP id u14mr3321717anh.33.1240967129122; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:05:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F77241.3020601@maydias.com> References: <49F77241.3020601@maydias.com> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:05:29 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310904281805i2ec220afva2d7ba0bee3f593@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Warren Liddell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has SVN server changed ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:05:30 -0000 On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Warren Liddell wrote: > I have been trying for the last couple weeks to update my ports etc via svn > but each time i try i get the below msg, im running latest updated ports atm > via csup on a FREEBSD7.1-STABLE AMD64 system.. > > According to a recent post [1], the SVN server has changed [2] since March 22, 2009. [1] http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2009/03/area51-repository-moved-to-pcbsd/ [2] http://area51.pcbsd.org/ -- Glen Barber 570.328.0318 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 02:21:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B5D106566B for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com [207.106.133.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E040B8FC15 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:21:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12CAAED69 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:04:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lukas.is-a-geek.org (unknown [71.112.210.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-sasl-fastnet.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 20CA4AED67 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:04:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Dean X-X-Sender: lukas@border.lukas.is-a-geek.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 1DC208A6-3462-11DE-A4F9-CABC03BA4B0C-96347044!a-sasl-fastnet.pobox.com Subject: Noisy GEOM_LABEL on boot of 7-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luke Dean List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:21:29 -0000 I just upgraded my old laptop from an older 7.1 release to the latest 7-STABLE for i386, and I started getting a lot of new GEOM_LABEL noise during the boot process. It says it's removing and adding labels every time it does the filesystem checks. What's that all about? Should I be concerned? This is just an old laptop with a simple out-of-the-box UFS filesystem with no frills or geom features that aren't default. I have never run tunefs or used glabel. kern.geom.label.debug=0 FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE #1: Tue Apr 28 12:16:44 PDT 2009 ad0: 57231MB at ata0-master UDMA33 GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1a is ufsid/47225356153f5b56. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1d is ufsid/472253592de7e9f5. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1e is ufsid/47225356139009e4. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1f is ufsid/47225356087c310e. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a . . . . Starting file system checks: GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/47225356153f5b56 removed. /dev/ad0s1a: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/ad0s1a: clean, 111842 free (1610 frags, 13779 blocks, 0.6% fragmentation) GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1a is ufsid/47225356153f5b56. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/47225356139009e4 removed. /dev/ad0s1e: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/ad0s1e: clean, 253810 free (34 frags, 31722 blocks, 0.0% fragmentation) GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1e is ufsid/47225356139009e4. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/47225356087c310e removed. /dev/ad0s1f: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/ad0s1f: clean, 23004564 free (148036 frags, 2857066 blocks, 0.6% fragmentation) GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1f is ufsid/47225356087c310e. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/472253592de7e9f5 removed. /dev/ad0s1d: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/ad0s1d: clean, 541653 free (589 frags, 67633 blocks, 0.1% fragmentation) GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1d is ufsid/472253592de7e9f5. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/47225356153f5b56 removed. Setting hostuuid: 9f2d90ee-5dba-11dd-b39c-080046044d85. Setting hostid: 0x51e2e234. Mounting local file systems: GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/47225356139009e4 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/47225356087c310e removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/472253592de7e9f5 removed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 05:00:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CD3106564A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A488FC1F for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4472781.home.otenet.gr [94.71.127.189]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3T4xt2L025059; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:59:56 +0300 Message-ID: <49F7DECB.2090209@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:59:55 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luke Dean References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Noisy GEOM_LABEL on boot of 7-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:00:00 -0000 Luke Dean wrote: > > I just upgraded my old laptop from an older 7.1 release to the > latest 7-STABLE for i386, and I started getting a lot of new > GEOM_LABEL noise during the boot process. > It says it's removing and adding labels every time it does the > filesystem checks. > What's that all about? > Should I be concerned? > > This is just an old laptop with a simple out-of-the-box UFS > filesystem with no frills or geom features that aren't default. > I have never run tunefs or used glabel. > kern.geom.label.debug=0 > > FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE #1: Tue Apr 28 12:16:44 PDT 2009 > > ad0: 57231MB at ata0-master UDMA33 > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1a is ufsid/47225356153f5b56. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1d is ufsid/472253592de7e9f5. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1e is ufsid/47225356139009e4. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1f is ufsid/47225356087c310e. > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > . > . > > . > . > Starting file system checks: > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/47225356153f5b56 removed. > /dev/ad0s1a: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS > /dev/ad0s1a: clean, 111842 free (1610 frags, 13779 blocks, 0.6% > fragmentation) > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1a is ufsid/47225356153f5b56. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/47225356139009e4 removed. In short, no. These messages have generally caused concern and they may be removed for 7.2-RELEASE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 07:23:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93128106564A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:23:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from farremosen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B388FC16 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:23:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from farremosen@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1008873ewy.43 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:23:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ob6rG4cmcK0/cM9VpHYPg1jVH6CjC42u0Kpw7bfNfqs=; b=P1NkcnIaCRyW5oRiWrlkp+/uNrXJvcqYh5plIb+Vb6wksdbftJSCr4E5AsNgisM93U tWsmT90Hs02siByUzw1PqogVS53VF/PNmDpVBwKrBbsLXEmIgNdxSW8UJOUSHh/ONm7l dYZt093y8fgOezIQ8SvnJhwICmBifOXJzmAfQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VVLWc/1SuVOClooDbk/eX1hKf8tLFwk/GRwiEJxyWo63w1qfA8pOT0VLx2YpHXhB4z 1Emp84k06lQalKK1B53MCuUTdQPDHupDGPLNtFD9Mshk6MZlIGnGiwhf6TU/rj8m1MoQ vE6cdg15/THq9WBz8f7eJqtb9CDKsLKpcxuIE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.53.139 with SMTP id g11mr5401wec.25.1240989826042; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:23:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:23:46 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Klaus_Friis_=D8stergaard?= To: "illoai@gmail.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ruby18 or Portupgrade error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:23:47 -0000 28. apr. 2009 18.17 skrev illoai@gmail.com : > 2009/4/28 Klaus Friis =D8stergaard : >> Hi, >> >> While upgrade gnome I have run into to this error, is it related to >> portupgrade or Ruby18 or something different. >> >> kfo@prod01% sudo portupgrade -aOW -x x11/gdm =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/home/kfo >> mktemp: mkdtemp failed on /var/tmp/portupgradedtlzuto6: Too many links >> /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgmisc.rb:140:in `init_tmpdir': >> Could not create temporary directory in /var/tmp (RuntimeError) >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgtools.rb:260:in >> `init_pkgtools_global' >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:529:in `main' >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:787:in `initiali= ze' >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `new' >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `main' >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:2208 >> kfo@prod01% >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/home/kfo >> >> I am not experience any other problems on the system. >> >> I have tried to csup and manually done make deisntall and make install >> of both portupgrade and ruby18. >> >> It seems that I something are able to run portupgrade right after >> Reboot, but second time or is not run right after reboot this failure >> occure. > > Try running pkgdb -fFu > > If that doesn't help, after making sure you've upgraded > ruby, try rebuilding databases/db41 and databases/ruby-bdb > (in that order) > and then running pkgdb -fFu If I try to run pkgdb -fFu get this kfo@prod01% sudo pkgdb -fFu mktemp: mkdtemp failed on /var/tmp/portupgradeA4dPHC7m: Too many links Could not create temporary directory in /var/tmp kfo@prod01% I get the same result after I did rebuild ruby, db41 and ruby-bdb in that o= rder. I did make install, then make deinstall, then make reinstall, I did not make any distclean before compiling. /klaus From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 08:02:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D5A106566B for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:02:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (macos.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3576C8FC12 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3T824Rk093953; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:02:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by macos.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id n3T824j3093950; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:02:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) X-Authentication-Warning: macos.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:02:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be To: Peter Ulrich Kruppa In-Reply-To: <1240939500.1626.5.camel@pukruppa.net> Message-ID: References: <1240860015.1569.43.camel@pukruppa.net> <1240939500.1626.5.camel@pukruppa.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: acroread run problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:02:07 -0000 I delete acroread9 (pkg_delete acroread9-9.1.0_2) and installed # cd /usr/ports/print/acroread8 # make install clean but I get the same errors... waht could be wrong and how to remedy? On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: > I am very sorry: > > I mixed up the acroread versions: you won't be able to run acroread9 > stably on FreeBSD 7.x . > You will have to wait for FreeBSD 8 . Until then you have to use > acroread8 :-( > > Greetings > > Uli. > > > > Am Dienstag, den 28.04.2009, 07:44 +0200 schrieb Pieter Donche: >> Hi, >> >> yes I do have in my /etc/rc.conf >> linux_enable="YES" >> >>> 2) Do you get >>> # df >>> [...] >>> linprocfs 4 4 0 100% /usr/compat/linux/proc >> No, this I do not have, but I wonder what that is ... >> >> I find nothing about linprocfs in >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html >> >> I also checked (from that book chapter 10.2) >> # kldstat >> Id Refs Address Size Name >> 1 7 0xffffffff80100000 ac7708 kernel >> 2 1 0xffffffffb08e0000 18aea linux.ko >> 3 1 0xffffffffb09cb000 496 star_saver.ko >> >> Also, I have a another PC with FreeBSD7 (i386) with Acrobat Reader 7.0 >> (/usr/local/bin/acroread) which works and there I do not not have >> a "linprocfs ..." in a df output... >> >> >> On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: >> >>> Am Montag, den 27.04.2009, 11:16 +0200 schrieb Pieter Donche: >>>> FreeBSD7/amd64 with linux_base-fc-4_14 Base set of packages needed >>>> in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) >>>> I installed acroread9-9.1.0_2 (no errors) >>>> # cd /usr/ports/print/acroread9 >>>> # make install clean >>>> OK. >>>> >>>> but at >>>> $ acroread & >>>> I get: >>>> >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed >>>> >>>> (acroread:67581): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules >>>> were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means >>>> there was an error in the creation of: >>>> '/etc/pango/pango.modules' >>>> You may be able to recreate this file by running pango-querymodules. >>>> (acroread:67581): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_engine_shape_shape: assertion `PANGO_IS_FONT (font)' failed >>>> Pango-ERROR **: file shape.c: line 75 (pango_shape): assertion failed: (glyphs->num_glyphs > 0) >>>> aborting... >>>> [1]+ Exit 1 acroread >>>> >>>> I do have: >>>> /usr/compat/linux/etc/pango >>>> drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 24 09:51 i686-redhat-linux-gnu >>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 11446 Apr 24 09:50 pangox.aliases >>>> >>> Just to check the prerequisites: >>> 1) Do you have >>> linux_enable="YES" >>> in your /etc/rc.conf >>> 2) Do you get >>> # df >>> [...] >>> linprocfs 4 4 0 100% /usr/compat/linux/proc >>> >>> (If not do have a look at >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html ) >>> >>> Greetings >>> >>> Uli. >>> >>>> What's wrong and how to remedy ? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 08:52:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BBC106567B for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from mailrelay006.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay006.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5608FC21 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:52:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai8FAMyu90lR9NTF/2dsb2JhbACBUMxLg3QF Received: from 197.212-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.kotnet.org) ([81.244.212.197]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2009 10:41:36 +0200 Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3T8f2US001553; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:41:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, PJ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:41:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <49F75E4F.9050200@videotron.ca> <49F77FDD.5090105@videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <49F77FDD.5090105@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:52:26 -0000 On Wednesday 29 April 2009 00:14:53 PJ wrote: > Oh, well, another day lost... but, I guess it's better to limp than > not to walk at all. :-\ I think it would help if you posted your /etc/rc.conf and /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Those are the two files that need to change. 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(sebster@85.147.225.232) by 10.0.98.3 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2009 09:37:55 -0000 Message-ID: <49F81FF2.3040302@sebster.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:37:54 +0200 From: Sebastiaan van Erk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060805010009060603010209" Subject: CARP & bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:37:57 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060805010009060603010209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have a bridged OpenVPN setup where the OpenVPN tap0 driver is bridged (via bridge0) to the physical em1 interface, which has a VIP via a carp1 interface: em1: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=98 ether 00:0c:29:61:2a:55 inet 10.0.80.77 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.80.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) status: active bridge0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 9a:6a:9f:b2:65:da id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 member: tap0 flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 11 priority 128 path cost 2000000 member: em1 flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 20000 tap0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:bd:48:03:00:00 Opened by PID 24616 carp1: flags=49 metric 0 mtu 1500 inet 10.0.80.74 netmask 0xffffff00 carp: MASTER vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 0 The problem I have is that when I ping the VIP from a VPN client (on tap0), the server receives arp requests for the VIP on tap0, but it does not respond to them: # tcpdump -i tap0 -ln 11:29:13.637048 arp who-has 10.0.80.74 tell 10.0.80.6 Is there any way to get the server to respond to arp requests on tap0 for the VIP? This is all on FreeBSD 7.1 with OpenVPN 2.0.6 (both client and server). 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owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 09:38:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25FC106567A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591158FC25 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAIO290nUnw6T/2dsb2JhbADPLoN0BQ Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net ([212.159.14.147]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2009 10:09:37 +0100 Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Lz5nN-0006vB-Kn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:09:37 +0100 Received: by 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09:38:51 -0000 On Monday 27 April 2009, Steven Friedrich wrote: > I built cairo with make -k install, so it would brute force past the > error, and after that I built libdrm and cairo again with portupgrade > -fr libdrm cairo. I think I had a similar problem a while ago. If I remember correctly it was fixed by running pkgdb -F to remove a superfluous dependency. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 10:06:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271CF1065670 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebster@sebster.com) Received: from mail.sebster.com (mail.sebster.com [193.46.80.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 76DC28FC18 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:06:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebster@sebster.com) Received: (qmail 18315 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2009 10:06:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.1.6?) (sebster@85.147.225.232) by 10.0.98.3 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2009 10:06:22 -0000 Message-ID: <49F8269E.2010201@sebster.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:06:22 +0200 From: Sebastiaan van Erk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julien Cigar References: <49F81FF2.3040302@sebster.com> <1240999037.2645.3.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> In-Reply-To: <1240999037.2645.3.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080602080708060403040503" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CARP & bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:06:25 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080602080708060403040503 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Julien Cigar wrote: > On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 11:37 +0200, Sebastiaan van Erk wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have a bridged OpenVPN setup where the OpenVPN tap0 driver is bridged >> (via bridge0) to the physical em1 interface, which has a VIP via a carp1 >> interface: >> >> em1: flags=8943 metric 0 >> mtu 1500 >> options=98 >> ether 00:0c:29:61:2a:55 >> inet 10.0.80.77 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.80.255 >> media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) >> status: active >> bridge0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >> 1500 >> ether 9a:6a:9f:b2:65:da >> id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 >> maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 >> root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 >> member: tap0 flags=143 >> ifmaxaddr 0 port 11 priority 128 path cost 2000000 >> member: em1 flags=143 >> ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 20000 >> tap0: flags=8943 metric >> 0 mtu 1500 >> ether 00:bd:48:03:00:00 >> Opened by PID 24616 >> carp1: flags=49 metric 0 mtu 1500 >> inet 10.0.80.74 netmask 0xffffff00 >> carp: MASTER vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 0 >> >> >> The problem I have is that when I ping the VIP from a VPN client (on >> tap0), the server receives arp requests for the VIP on tap0, but it does >> not respond to them: >> >> # tcpdump -i tap0 -ln >> 11:29:13.637048 arp who-has 10.0.80.74 tell 10.0.80.6 >> >> Is there any way to get the server to respond to arp requests on tap0 >> for the VIP? >> > > Maybe you've to do ARP Proxy on one side ? Try to add an ARP entry in > the ARP table with arp (arp -s 1.2.3.4 MAC foo) .. Thanks for the suggestion. Ok, static arp works: that is, if I take the carp1 mac address and add it to the arp table using: arp -s 10.0.80.74 00:00:5e:00:01:02 pub The ping starts to work. I'm still a bit confused why I have to do this though, because I can ping the non-shared IP 10.0.80.77 from the VPN client (via tap0) without any static arp, and I can ping the shared VIP (10.0.80.74) from clients on the physical network (em1) as well without any static arp. It's only when the ping it has to cross the bridge that it's an issue. 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owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 10:23:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD9D106566B for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.vub.ac.be (mxin.vub.ac.be [134.184.129.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5B38FC1A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnMCAGq890mkD30E/2dsb2JhbAAIzzSDdAU Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.vub.ac.be with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2009 11:55:02 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: Sebastiaan van Erk In-Reply-To: <49F81FF2.3040302@sebster.com> References: <49F81FF2.3040302@sebster.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:57:17 +0200 Message-Id: <1240999037.2645.3.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CARP & bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:23:50 -0000 On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 11:37 +0200, Sebastiaan van Erk wrote: > Hi, > > I have a bridged OpenVPN setup where the OpenVPN tap0 driver is bridged > (via bridge0) to the physical em1 interface, which has a VIP via a carp1 > interface: > > em1: flags=8943 metric 0 > mtu 1500 > options=98 > ether 00:0c:29:61:2a:55 > inet 10.0.80.77 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.80.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) > status: active > bridge0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > 1500 > ether 9a:6a:9f:b2:65:da > id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 > maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 > root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 > member: tap0 flags=143 > ifmaxaddr 0 port 11 priority 128 path cost 2000000 > member: em1 flags=143 > ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 20000 > tap0: flags=8943 metric > 0 mtu 1500 > ether 00:bd:48:03:00:00 > Opened by PID 24616 > carp1: flags=49 metric 0 mtu 1500 > inet 10.0.80.74 netmask 0xffffff00 > carp: MASTER vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 0 > > > The problem I have is that when I ping the VIP from a VPN client (on > tap0), the server receives arp requests for the VIP on tap0, but it does > not respond to them: > > # tcpdump -i tap0 -ln > 11:29:13.637048 arp who-has 10.0.80.74 tell 10.0.80.6 > > Is there any way to get the server to respond to arp requests on tap0 > for the VIP? > Maybe you've to do ARP Proxy on one side ? Try to add an ARP entry in the ARP table with arp (arp -s 1.2.3.4 MAC foo) .. > This is all on FreeBSD 7.1 with OpenVPN 2.0.6 (both client and server). > > Regards, > Sebastiaan > -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be UniversitĂ© Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrĂ©e ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 11:20:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BD0106566B for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:20:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086AF8FC19 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:20:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lz7qB-0003Ju-Di; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:20:46 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Lz7q9-0006Mz-13; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:20:37 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3TBKaNu078805; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:20:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3TBKZd1078804; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:20:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:20:34 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090429112034.GA78785@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Subject: X failed to load modules "xtrap" and "freetype" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:20:47 -0000 I'm getting these errors on from xorg-server-1.6.0,1 on FBSD 8.0-current i386: (EE) Failed to load module "xtrap" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0) Some posts on the net indicate that these X extentions no longer exist. Is that so? I got these simply from running X -configure Please advise many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 11:36:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139E51065670 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:36:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aopopov@yahoo.com) Received: from web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90ADD8FC15 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:36:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aopopov@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 23698 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 2009 11:10:04 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1241003404; bh=iGLsy0JsUzGmTPCQdUGeLSvQf3nnd8x8pKHYYeOYIZk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HVsF2zD4fKrdlSI64e9/RKba71BJ1w788/NbI15/WJQeRwfA+61YYPrfQm9E+5k0zOxlV+HkAmmI9ESuUhgMEtYlu4ugPxoJ3EUrNN8F6sgb2zbspOX+rZR5YeqHE7nfN3ftd1rlzhUrWYuXs1YMYPa/xo75jJeIbi3MK4SfJD0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Edkj73x4Q971JOlMR3OuSQA6BceVhdYIocRUA7QIFI93o+4oLCNDroxoBZPVcwA72OjLTIJfmFn9Ln1gnZupIf6fpF71SAhmj1l0JnolNq7kepNGl4748D+NJQat+I+cJYa61FCD2JQi6C79dYIAvAjKRyODIJXtxryPNXJ9/j8=; Message-ID: <691900.21008.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1HnjPHMVM1nRvhZfoAhX7jCGpuo1AbTEfxI8pCNgI1XtCF6JyT27M7QjjtRC4LdrmDiOc_jHI17Td1qdHwuymYTsp6LCGt9WrvmWKALGT_371.71Lu.WypyBpsNguh6DUhE4_YoX1CQJ913_t02G6nH._UYKJoCzwVDQRb_2M_dvMAILjTgbp_odxTZ0B_NjQ2QB7V3tqlBAbkKT2OgaMyKeRxBa0hLLA0gPnkttx2Do5.NCH9XJe9eekQs3mBay9XksZOCQNP.uOK0QRF_3bPU- Received: from [193.173.39.45] by web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:10:04 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:10:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexander Popov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: atacontrol spindown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: aopopov@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:36:47 -0000 Hi, With FreeBSD 7.1 I've started using atacontrol spindown for my secondary disks (i.e. disks that are accessed very infrequently). Everything seemed to work nice until I noticed in my "daily security run output" list of kernel messages that suggests that disks get awaken every night at 3 am. Could someone suggest what could trigger my disks to wake up? BTW, I am not running smartd daemon, so that cannot be an issue. Thanks in advance, Alexander. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 12:17:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441D0106564A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:17:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcdowse@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 835528FC18 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:17:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcdowse@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Apr 2009 11:50:53 -0000 Received: from p54AA6DC2.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO ac1dc0de) [84.170.109.194] by mail.gmx.net (mp070) with SMTP; 29 Apr 2009 13:50:53 +0200 X-Authenticated: #30106961 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18L/7t1YBMLk2AyRMXgkdQ9dPvDHDNRz/aW2W02tx 31FmuHTaF58ns2 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:50:52 +0200 From: "Daniel C. Dowse" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090429135052.cc870efa.dcdowse@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <691900.21008.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <691900.21008.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.64 Subject: Re: atacontrol spindown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:17:35 -0000 On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Alexander Popov wrote: > > Hi, > > With FreeBSD 7.1 I've started using atacontrol spindown for my secondary disks (i.e. disks that are accessed very infrequently). Everything seemed to work nice until I noticed in my "daily security run output" list of kernel messages that suggests that disks get awaken every night at 3 am. Could someone suggest what could trigger my disks to wake up? > Hi Alexander, maybe it is cron when it runs the daily security checks so it checks for the disk? Or have a look at your cronjobs with best regards D. Dowse -- The only reality is virtual! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 12:17:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32BD106566C for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD4F8FC19 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lz8jE-0001N6-IP; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:17:36 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Lz8jE-000770-3u; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:17:32 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3TCHUFe087959; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:17:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3TCHSIi087958; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:17:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:17:28 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090429121728.GA87931@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <89ce7f740904182018s5ee0934ew54021bd2e44d207e@mail.gmail.com> <49EACF5B.9090107@otenet.gr> <49EB3CFD.6010408@otenet.gr> <89ce7f740904191438j222d34ddtaf1ade298a09abd1@mail.gmail.com> <49EBBEED.7080903@gmail.com> <20090420035810.705647ab.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090420035810.705647ab.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with Xorg after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:17:37 -0000 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 03:58:10AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > Section "DRI" > Mode 0666 > EndSection what does this do? thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 12:18:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122191065767 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB378FC23 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:18:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 21653 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2009 12:18:46 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Apr 2009 12:18:46 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C4D355084D; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:18:44 -0400 (EDT) To: Steven Friedrich References: <49F5F9F9.5050506@InsightBB.com> <443absdhg1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <49F73F43.30101@InsightBB.com> <49F74466.7050409@otenet.gr> <49F77618.9090203@InsightBB.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:18:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <49F77618.9090203@InsightBB.com> (Steven Friedrich's message of "Tue\, 28 Apr 2009 17\:33\:12 -0400") Message-ID: <44ljpjlkkb.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Manolis Kiagias , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chicken and egg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:18:47 -0000 Steven Friedrich writes: > On a system with cairo installed, try pkg_info -r cairo\*|grep drm > > Here's from one of my systems: > Dependency: libdrm-2.4.9 I did, and don't have that dependency. I also looked (somewhat quickly, admittedly) through the makefiles for a way it could be optionally produced, and didn't come up with anything. If you want help, assuming that people are idiots is not going to get you very far. Especially when most of us can't reproduce what you're seeing. Perhaps you have an older set of ports? If you can figure out where the dependency came from on your system, it would be a start towards other people being able to provide advice. Good luck. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 12:30:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDBF1065702 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:30:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABE08FC27 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1122118bwz.43 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:30:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IeSTTaWFRz0yS2ixDL3EKEbiDE9+n2V9ifaqbAWials=; b=xt+KDfguXBQWCpPXc8HIsn6EzaJjwjWPqIqAxmQSU1/hvgYDzZxZuUhn0BB9I9Huty d0WEzFh09hoVR/joi6SS6WwguLHkHoU04tQRnda+OQbiL1x4FJ/e96zhV/h2ih+ZKRJ5 yxmf+I3YQDJE9BCJucDF8xiu0nikAimOpKvq0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XaBP1zFi9RJGp4Rn3toc7/7Us/JaxwLm65904if7UYepZip4Xo6SySJFpIDau9SoBM VP1NgrFVSEoBlhKYNujmlSWIMDB1jsJdbKyY9VzdOgcG3+hBU/lGcgJwLS1ylwEZPbrf FOb4PH/ExdHvMv8ZkIQsQj0R007WHN6L1yShA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.132.134 with SMTP id 6mr13595hbr.157.1241008248599; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:30:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com> References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:30:48 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Chris Whitehouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: ndis0 interrrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:30:50 -0000 On 4/29/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Hi all > > I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54Gv5 wireless pccard working. It has a > Marvell 8335 chip. I've created a module with ndisgen and I can see > ndis0. When I up it with ifconfig I immediately get repeated messages: > > Apr 28 23:23:19 pcbsd kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; > throttling interrupt source > > As soon as I down the interface the messages stop. > > I've also tried starting ndis0 with polling > > # ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.1.20 polling > > but still get the messages. I guess this driver doesn't support polling. > Or I've got the syntax wrong. That command is not currently efective at all for ndisX(I yet have to see if it is possible). > According to vmstat -i irq11 is used by cbb0 and pcm0. ndis0 is on irq9 > > irq9: cbb1 ndis0++ > > This is on PCBSD 7.1 which is FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE > > Any way I can get this thing working? Try yo disable cbbX if you dont use it or enable MSI for pcm0 (if possible). -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 12:38:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CA01065674 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:38:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04FA8FC17 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lz93L-0002dz-4v; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:38:28 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Lz93K-0007Li-7I; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:38:18 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3TCcHMv088189; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:38:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3TCcA0t088188; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:38:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:38:10 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20090429123810.GA88168@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <89ce7f740904182018s5ee0934ew54021bd2e44d207e@mail.gmail.com> <49EACF5B.9090107@otenet.gr> <49EB3CFD.6010408@otenet.gr> <89ce7f740904191438j222d34ddtaf1ade298a09abd1@mail.gmail.com> <49EBBEED.7080903@gmail.com> <20090420035810.705647ab.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090429121728.GA87931@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <18936.18149.857286.946426@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18936.18149.857286.946426@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with Xorg after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:38:30 -0000 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 08:24:05AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > > Anton Shterenlikht writes: > > > > Section "DRI" > > > Mode 0666 > > > EndSection > > > > what does this do? > > Sets the permissions for some file. which file? Is this something to do with allowing ordinary users run X? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 12:43:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A600106564A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcdowse@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50EE68FC0A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcdowse@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Apr 2009 12:43:18 -0000 Received: from p54AA7630.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO ac1dc0de) [84.170.118.48] by mail.gmx.net (mp061) with SMTP; 29 Apr 2009 14:43:18 +0200 X-Authenticated: #30106961 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1++a1pJ/V6+G/c+xyOCu+YugE1XvvytTn0BZ9pH08 nJvNg/li4vvpb9 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:43:18 +0200 From: "Daniel C. Dowse" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090429144318.1c0e0814.dcdowse@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20090429123810.GA88168@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <89ce7f740904182018s5ee0934ew54021bd2e44d207e@mail.gmail.com> <49EACF5B.9090107@otenet.gr> <49EB3CFD.6010408@otenet.gr> <89ce7f740904191438j222d34ddtaf1ade298a09abd1@mail.gmail.com> <49EBBEED.7080903@gmail.com> <20090420035810.705647ab.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090429121728.GA87931@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <18936.18149.857286.946426@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20090429123810.GA88168@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.64 Subject: Re: Problems with Xorg after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:43:21 -0000 On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:38:10 +0100 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 08:24:05AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > > > > Anton Shterenlikht writes: > > > > > > Section "DRI" > > > > Mode 0666 > > > > EndSection > > > > > > what does this do? > > > > Sets the permissions for some file. > > which file? Is this something to do with allowing ordinary users > run X? > Hi, Anton, it is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf greets D.Dowse -- The only reality is virtual! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 12:44:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5704B1065677 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aopopov@yahoo.com) Received: from web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1BAA8FC15 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aopopov@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 87560 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 2009 12:44:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1241009091; bh=t5urMrqGeIbQyzr2AwtFRseyY9cNRi28KU+811ak4p0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Sq35mOhQoKXt0eFzsPO7Rmtbfpit/TGeqBOIKrKnIVOmbh0zTzAl91UnObkIi+cKfFvM0meyyddtUVQ2KFqVI90P8qbBJiFi+8wMvIsIz9gRKgy+//7vIUrHIVEWgIyE2S01Rn7aTzPxInbNXWiT6ZXCA1rd4GXTWPCXhhirgQ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K/FsP37YswKqVgzaKBrgBOZKGgjEIBHuLs4uzZc0DROF23cimNSUGUDxDXA/T2k+QGyEg01lE42MyTTmIZYFFqwyYurQIyiLD5q+NhntsEctbff5MLi/28BtOuHoriaRXGymWNcVCBaTK2EfEZ5/oB49yT3BCruZ8TH5TRyvYZY=; Message-ID: <397932.84499.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3r3Ahc0VM1l17HpqyhCeP1LVYe2tL1NTNcWDYhBIlk0zGAhwhjrDOG.A8O8fRrdn8uu8ke6wtLgeEdRwuWiiTe_j.koJ.iANevZKZ9d_sn9879ExO_OowLVUb492wGc8bIQ1vOtnb61hDaWbHCC5RYwMeacoJlm645Pd9.Qb8vYeBfGbaMv23egu9J.sg8HwXHBL2XIe1jE4SBU0NsBXiliZwPJ7fL7tCpe5t.6uVuj4Fh68orJXgfOWeEiCcaNxVXtD2Kb9aKx.ev8SDUyivSKDMVHun56CJGhz4iZ.VQyO04QfgNWa.JYFEjOf1lhL8L4Kdio4eh42nHo0o3KfB_E- Received: from [193.173.39.45] by web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:44:51 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:44:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexander Popov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Daniel C. Dowse" In-Reply-To: <20090429135052.cc870efa.dcdowse@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: atacontrol spindown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: aopopov@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:44:52 -0000 Hi, Daniel, It must be periodic(8), but I have trouble identifying what exactly could be the trigger. If I look at /etc/defaults/periodic.conf, it has daily_clean_disks_enable="NO". With respect to daily checks, I just have the default setup, nothing that I added myself. Are there any other configuration options that I should look at? Thanks, Alexander. --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Daniel C. Dowse wrote: > From: Daniel C. Dowse > Subject: Re: atacontrol spindown > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 1:50 PM > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:10:04 -0700 (PDT) > Alexander Popov wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > With FreeBSD 7.1 I've started using atacontrol > spindown for my secondary disks (i.e. disks that are > accessed very infrequently). Everything seemed to work nice > until I noticed in my "daily security run output" > list of kernel messages that suggests that disks get awaken > every night at 3 am. Could someone suggest what could > trigger my disks to wake up? > > > > Hi Alexander, > > maybe it is cron when it runs the daily security checks so > it checks > for the disk? Or have a look at your cronjobs > > with best regards > > D. Dowse > > -- > The only reality is virtual! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 12:52:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D776106564A; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f162.google.com (mail-fx0-f162.google.com [209.85.220.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7FF8FC17; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:52:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so1149215fxm.43 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:52:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yq79QG8UUURv5DNpOpyD7VABbgJmkzz4asOM/7ykEIs=; b=d8j3RdatLBYl7hvi3SCqqVIf3BTszSJLXiQ8XnLAvnwltdq5e+nV5JNWhz2HD4D+Oq /OIYxi0WUDAeO9+QEUt62GXK+PVkjMfz489JZ5lyT3bSRa6TTddRWZnyDVbbrLAaROnm c2+lvARw527ot+x0aTAkJ9m/HO/TDahAQFiVU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nm/3vK466NjSi/Zb2+b18Wpa2nBETVV5TwCr51Sl8r4oCe6oBgVbpzKybGt41aqnB6 QWvKklhe2JSXEi6HvU/jOBefKhMgZkJtbAIvdvUCsi/Lj2qjdK8LCnr+n1x2rQpp204w x4/lsTw1qTjxpKrGkXtYIN0t8amBH4MdB3bnI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.5 with SMTP id n5mr19549hbd.18.1241009532956; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:52:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090429112034.GA78785@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090429112034.GA78785@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:52:12 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750904290552s51d075a5sf26d976ef6215fde@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Anton Shterenlikht Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X failed to load modules "xtrap" and "freetype" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:52:14 -0000 On 4/29/09, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I'm getting these errors on from xorg-server-1.6.0,1 on > FBSD 8.0-current i386: > > (EE) Failed to load module "xtrap" (module does not exist, 0) > (EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0) > > Some posts on the net indicate that these X extentions > no longer exist. Is that so? I got these simply from > running X -configure > > Please advise I dont have that modules in mine xorg.conf. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 12:55:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532C81065679 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:55:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD2C8FC16 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lz9Js-0003kX-KJ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:55:29 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Lz9Jl-0001qG-VZ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:55:18 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3TCtFcv088367; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:55:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3TCt3lX088366; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:55:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:55:03 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: "Daniel C. Dowse" Message-ID: <20090429125503.GA88334@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <49EB3CFD.6010408@otenet.gr> <89ce7f740904191438j222d34ddtaf1ade298a09abd1@mail.gmail.com> <49EBBEED.7080903@gmail.com> <20090420035810.705647ab.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090429121728.GA87931@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <18936.18149.857286.946426@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20090429123810.GA88168@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090429144318.1c0e0814.dcdowse@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090429144318.1c0e0814.dcdowse@gmx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with Xorg after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:55:30 -0000 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 02:43:18PM +0200, Daniel C. Dowse wrote: > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:38:10 +0100 > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 08:24:05AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > > > > > > Anton Shterenlikht writes: > > > > > > > > Section "DRI" > > > > > Mode 0666 > > > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > what does this do? > > > > > > Sets the permissions for some file. > > > > which file? Is this something to do with allowing ordinary users > > run X? > > > > Hi, Anton, > > it is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf yes, I got this from somebody's xorg.conf, but what does this do? Is this a recommended setting? For what driver? thank you anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 12:56:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1E61065678 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:56:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEBD8FC1E for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so718882yxb.13 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:56:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=XdKFcooliIUgmpYI7GTvGOTNkwGfz6X60QUbkBpsE4U=; b=WP2iZ23n4+ywbQLL5f1fSVWxyqlyWsXFCj+TMrKFFcRqJtiyv0XQXKZn/gDP6k94Nh kEVYLulw5JKTJ+TB30rlnp6dKxVMqqymJikiw2l+Bpt9OKIMTosTbTawyrWbclYATpu9 i0M9fDIuuR6Kvq73GDllsaIoiIn4xc+igNHRI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; b=Cet/Ivs6F3dzfL3Sr9AxZizpBLMvETf9eFqmxAt9AF0WRdGN4/EUvk+HVBOPgQnNNA mSS0l5YdEQz56nd5R4LtakdbCq1y4sHiqK4Yu1Rn9lPDyncH6H+DyUT536kbHFFB2BTT 20YekE3OwQOcaTHl2K31CvfwDW+zu4hjvKAZ0= Received: by 10.100.12.1 with SMTP id 1mr585824anl.107.1241009769819; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.6.228? ([189.123.214.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm1766451aga.67.2009.04.29.05.56.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:56:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <49F6482C.2050302@gothic-chat.de> References: <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> <49F4A3D8.3090106@gothic-chat.de> <200904272033.47390.beni@brinckman.info> <20090427211005.GA26754@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <49F6482C.2050302@gothic-chat.de> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:56:00 -0300 Message-Id: <1241009760.6993.33.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:56:11 -0000 hello.... Well, after all that said, I would like to post my modest oppinion based in experience from the market.. 1) The people who use FreeBSD, or other OS, (the end user) will never install the OS, the person will turn on the machine and expects an graphical interface appears in the secreen. 2) the Interface should be as simple as possible, but powerfull enought to fullfill their needs, that is text, email, browsing, some banking, multimedia (this must be powerfulll...), chatting. some dvd authoriting, P2P. should access WIFI networks easy too 3) the "computer" (computer is the term used by the USER) should NEVER break, stop working.... That is: the computer (and the Operating system) should act as the TV set... (remember those old times when the TV set used to break???) you turn it on, and it works... 4) For those who install the OS in the computer, (some 1 in 10.000) people.... should make it fast and dirty.... I make an installer that install FBSD in 10 minutes with all the gnome, office, multimedia, with only one of the keyboard... using ZFS, the system never breaks, is ready to use in 20 seconds... FBSD is installed in more than 1000 machines running in gas stations... here... 5) A beautifull installer is good for the newspaper that publishes a "review" of the Operating system (they must publish something to "sell" to ...save their job..), Have you ever heard about a "Leopard" installer??? do you know someone who reinstalled "Leopard"?????? 6) I also think that there must be an "fast and dirty" FBSD install. in the distribution a CD (or DVD) that you put in the machine, it asks where to install and a prompt choosing YES or NO... the installer formats the disk(partition), do a tar of the FBSD image, with an login of "admin" prompts for a password, and dumps the os image in the disk using journal or ZFS... (90% of the machines I installed FBSD have 1GB of memory, 80GB of HD and HDA sound, INTEL,ATI,VIA graphics board... only 4 brands of NIC). 7) I showed FBSD to an "expert" windows guy, and he think it is far more easy to install than the XP he was using.... besides, it is LEGAL!!! Thanks for the Attention, Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 12:58:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5017106566C for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f162.google.com (mail-fx0-f162.google.com [209.85.220.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712AC8FC24 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so1152774fxm.43 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:58:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FuHc6jrXZ8/x7RcPesPDLDyxLiAVJcTSnd973gNTets=; b=ARyVGPGvtLgNWnWXc82xOHkTGhhER/7GtreDD1qPGM4/ulW63dKtu3I2/kdfUG5ZWM wNPHCrpViH3dwzPSSVAJbBPb0kwOld7vGWZfc86Vv9w8mzu65wncrZ3EoLXQH6QSyRsY oKA8/ATZ+WaBBI/wZVPy3AV15aJutmieCgbGk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SBpdXFAitooBORsBaY/ZCCh28V/4YS2NzmKl+9hItXSPotUlMyzIoU7A9edWAiJ9/a 0O9MCkPqELC9SEZAw7p7yWwq3VAVLhS5JBFio2y2c3EIDu0L3rDjBs3icCKooMwzmYL1 l+Ytp9tHwnm2qPhbDMsoUXNPvF8z/Ecnsya1c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.5 with SMTP id n5mr19889hbd.18.1241009899429; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:58:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <397932.84499.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20090429135052.cc870efa.dcdowse@gmx.net> <397932.84499.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:58:19 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750904290558k3fa85c57sb8675172907c79b6@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: aopopov@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Daniel C. Dowse" Subject: Re: atacontrol spindown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:58:21 -0000 On 4/29/09, Alexander Popov wrote: > > Hi, Daniel, > > It must be periodic(8), but I have trouble identifying what exactly could be > the trigger. If I look at /etc/defaults/periodic.conf, it has > daily_clean_disks_enable="NO". > With respect to daily checks, I just have the default setup, nothing that I > added myself. > > Are there any other configuration options that I should look at? /etc/crontab -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 13:01:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792A61065675 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9FA8FC16 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4472781.home.otenet.gr [94.71.127.189]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3TD13gF020942; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:01:03 +0300 Message-ID: <49F84F8F.5090605@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:01:03 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anton Shterenlikht References: <49EB3CFD.6010408@otenet.gr> <89ce7f740904191438j222d34ddtaf1ade298a09abd1@mail.gmail.com> <49EBBEED.7080903@gmail.com> <20090420035810.705647ab.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090429121728.GA87931@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <18936.18149.857286.946426@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20090429123810.GA88168@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090429144318.1c0e0814.dcdowse@gmx.net> <20090429125503.GA88334@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090429125503.GA88334@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Daniel C. Dowse" Subject: Re: Problems with Xorg after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:01:13 -0000 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 02:43:18PM +0200, Daniel C. Dowse wrote: > >> On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:38:10 +0100 >> Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> >> >>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 08:24:05AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: >>> >>>> Anton Shterenlikht writes: >>>> >>>> >>>>> > Section "DRI" >>>>> > Mode 0666 >>>>> > EndSection >>>>> >>>>> what does this do? >>>>> >>>> Sets the permissions for some file. >>>> >>> which file? Is this something to do with allowing ordinary users >>> run X? >>> >>> >> Hi, Anton, >> >> it is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf >> > > yes, I got this from somebody's xorg.conf, but what does this do? > Is this a recommended setting? For what driver? > > thank you > anton > Permits access to Direct Rendering for all users. For details see this: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 13:07:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D005A1065674 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcdowse@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A23F8FC22 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcdowse@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Apr 2009 13:07:22 -0000 Received: from p54AA7630.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO ac1dc0de) [84.170.118.48] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 29 Apr 2009 15:07:22 +0200 X-Authenticated: #30106961 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/6JH9y8cv64G3lfbXXEAneNBcAB0uJXydieZH9Zn f7n0znkWK/QWFi Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:07:22 +0200 From: "Daniel C. Dowse" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090429150722.e9a36808.dcdowse@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <397932.84499.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20090429135052.cc870efa.dcdowse@gmx.net> <397932.84499.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.63 Subject: Re: atacontrol spindown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:07:25 -0000 On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Alexander Popov wrote: > > Hi, Daniel, > > It must be periodic(8), but I have trouble identifying what exactly could be the trigger. If I look at /etc/defaults/periodic.conf, it has > daily_clean_disks_enable="NO". > With respect to daily checks, I just have the default setup, nothing that I added myself. > > Are there any other configuration options that I should look at? > > Thanks, > Hi, Alexander, maybe post the part for the disk in your output of your daily security checks here, would be much easier to find out what the trigger may be. What file/directories are accessed, when it comes to that point? IMHO: i believe it is just because the hdd is "there", so i think when the cron runs it just checks that the disk is still there. thx D.Dowse -- The only reality is virtual! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 13:11:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9E61065675 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aopopov@yahoo.com) Received: from web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94C008FC1E for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aopopov@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 86946 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 2009 13:11:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1241010703; bh=WsnGlpXgArOktSSvDx8PPmEYN1GO+XAilbP7bSvOthY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tNH/8U3qmrUECn5Zv+v5Stj8+toQtR1izp1mM54Zq+NbQA/41aKNfGzFe8vutaMWpfpQdedk23ByMX5A7pV6/d2PUlSw/WFVCod29NIfYxha1Q/+yPKWK2Qsqv//b7UX5xbNz4pD4RrxLEXMlbz9FUeUJzFyzNpD1tDyxd/hAco= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PJo9QAQXigugOHEo4IVoxsaRtUD7+4Nq9VL8E9I+k/W0PZs8MKqleLP6S43UKhQp4cuZcOZFJJUMI0YrzksBq/lh5xmSNghVNERoEz/6D1d+cHMTiu9UWd+w/SKylcZPjBQ63RBWcawymnE914OeT7JiUp0ckfFrB3/jHXZY1o0=; Message-ID: <892451.85852.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1Uw5zvwVM1ncdb5xjxeRcB7sNkNzTOvWs8xf1KyqLITwgKf__PnonJtyaDf5CALv1My2QNXCa6eAKsrnPx.RhtgENn1WXin5sqMWeHHNRk5k6Xn5dwbi0YEnuGx9c3BVgRi0vlsTBz5VLAHaTiE_z_wXF6KqQ.xarhBdtrtM5qEubzl_zt0k8nzlmWjqz1HCxtMkntxX0vsUsbdxO2gMZxrHP5d1w7RsxC07eJGlviASj_BC5XjoujJXvJWj6vpHuWWwn7MH0nkYJfdu9nxtLvxiQQwZm2g9GSIh7psAS1zE Received: from [193.173.39.45] by web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:11:43 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:11:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexander Popov To: "Paul B. Mahol" In-Reply-To: <3a142e750904290558k3fa85c57sb8675172907c79b6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Daniel C. Dowse" Subject: Re: atacontrol spindown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: aopopov@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:11:45 -0000 Hi, Paul, Below is my /etc/crontab. The only thing that is run at 3 am is periodic daily. # /etc/crontab - root's crontab for FreeBSD # # $FreeBSD: src/etc/crontab,v 1.32.32.1 2008/11/25 02:59:29 kensmith Exp $ # SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin HOME=/var/log # #minute hour mday month wday who command # */5 * * * * root /usr/libexec/atrun # # Save some entropy so that /dev/random can re-seed on boot. */11 * * * * operator /usr/libexec/save-entropy # # Rotate log files every hour, if necessary. 0 * * * * root newsyslog # # Perform daily/weekly/monthly maintenance. 1 3 * * * root periodic daily 15 4 * * 6 root periodic weekly 30 5 1 * * root periodic monthly # # Adjust the time zone if the CMOS clock keeps local time, as opposed to # UTC time. See adjkerntz(8) for details. 1,31 0-5 * * * root adjkerntz -a --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Paul B. Mahol wrote: > From: Paul B. Mahol > Subject: Re: atacontrol spindown > To: aopopov@yahoo.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Daniel C. Dowse" > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 2:58 PM > On 4/29/09, Alexander Popov wrote: > > > > Hi, Daniel, > > > > It must be periodic(8), but I have trouble identifying > what exactly could be > > the trigger. If I look at /etc/defaults/periodic.conf, > it has > > daily_clean_disks_enable="NO". > > With respect to daily checks, I just have the default > setup, nothing that I > > added myself. > > > > Are there any other configuration options that I > should look at? > > /etc/crontab > > -- > Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 13:17:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49702106566B for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8ACC8FC0A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:17:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so871385fga.12 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:17:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cS2eizKSaqfrcZ+Y9Zhdhs6mCvZoVuEuqQaqtURftyc=; b=YOQrWZcPuuvpJcGex4JVP+LmswXDk0WR4UuOoC4ERn8JZax/Tzpg3YO29PybdOHZhH i+gh6zJFVvv0E/T4g3Da4KLhoZ66TtcAUS5B5fUqS3pdCMtj5e/Y4/g8wGupW9X70Pi5 lOgpdTNsggmZqIuupZ0O+rJyez0GH4DsN0IH8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BQWhEiQT513tDZYMYi4hleOCntL3Vw1wI2TCop1BC4El+xArcHqLkVnv+w+bN5gMj8 JUgviPosnqtbIEk7NagaNjdkvqQZPMLpw+C1rOiRR3pU3e+UH5iyB42J7gQEnieUnNw/ 2vvBIvSVTIVyuSrXrt75u6gE5sqCC98ET/s44= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.170.142 with SMTP id s14mr17802hbe.89.1241011026613; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:17:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <892451.85852.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <3a142e750904290558k3fa85c57sb8675172907c79b6@mail.gmail.com> <892451.85852.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:17:06 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750904290617t4a18289xc1ed093cd9cfb485@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: aopopov@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Daniel C. Dowse" Subject: Re: atacontrol spindown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:17:08 -0000 On 4/29/09, Alexander Popov wrote: > > Hi, Paul, > > Below is my /etc/crontab. The only thing that is run at 3 am is periodic > daily. > If any of scripts from /etc/crontab needs access(just reading, not counting writing, considering it is not already cached) on spindowned hard disk your mission will fail. If you want to keep logging and logs (via another ways) you could make memory disk for root and var slice ... and transfer logs to another media ... or use another hard disk for that.... > # /etc/crontab - root's crontab for FreeBSD > # > # $FreeBSD: src/etc/crontab,v 1.32.32.1 2008/11/25 02:59:29 kensmith Exp $ > # > SHELL=/bin/sh > PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin > HOME=/var/log > # > #minute hour mday month wday who command > # > */5 * * * * root /usr/libexec/atrun > # > # Save some entropy so that /dev/random can re-seed on boot. > */11 * * * * operator /usr/libexec/save-entropy > # > # Rotate log files every hour, if necessary. > 0 * * * * root newsyslog > # > # Perform daily/weekly/monthly maintenance. > 1 3 * * * root periodic daily > 15 4 * * 6 root periodic weekly > 30 5 1 * * root periodic monthly > # > # Adjust the time zone if the CMOS clock keeps local time, as opposed to > # UTC time. See adjkerntz(8) for details. > 1,31 0-5 * * * root adjkerntz -a > > > > --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Paul B. Mahol wrote: > >> From: Paul B. Mahol >> Subject: Re: atacontrol spindown >> To: aopopov@yahoo.com >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Daniel C. Dowse" >> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 2:58 PM >> On 4/29/09, Alexander Popov wrote: >> > >> > Hi, Daniel, >> > >> > It must be periodic(8), but I have trouble identifying >> what exactly could be >> > the trigger. If I look at /etc/defaults/periodic.conf, >> it has >> > daily_clean_disks_enable="NO". >> > With respect to daily checks, I just have the default >> setup, nothing that I >> > added myself. >> > >> > Are there any other configuration options that I >> should look at? >> >> /etc/crontab >> >> -- >> Paul > > > > -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 13:18:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39AC2106567D for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aopopov@yahoo.com) Received: from web51409.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51409.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1A8C8FC13 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:18:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aopopov@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 58149 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 2009 13:18:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1241011104; bh=gPHZ9ss+9yM6j5duYhBZRKT/7lBpmuJR4adBCPP6X+k=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3UAB2Yt59CKdG7g/DZC7Bh3i8W928CVvI/dCUzTTK2y51LltnJdFD/yIpPd4n5n8ueh9GpoTv6/anlnk5dRLF3ZbyAQLCSUtFRJpfbiSwD0iT/cQlFtyIy3roAT/VAXd2HoU5yjTaebR13YfElOfpBFHcnnFMAKzfIUZITEfSgk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=acKnX4f+Ld4OvgLgD/lCvkQ8FTUvBrS0IPWtOm3ImZE07pMiEUr/RrQK1Ho+eWNX4vgl4EUm7fuiGepBbL57eM6VYptDcnY4HUGNV9H2VmQd65JYqYG5cox5+/ehUvhiaCYhNbpyfdZtsyFLPGnSTEPL0r2MPtabgXXK1dQ4vG0=; Message-ID: <24794.51731.qm@web51409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: RA64M0sVM1m9Px9xHAzCko5GfZU_H5V_Oi8rqryhJJT1DP8GBGQRhxkWL8xFitOLJiyBGZJNhGGD5gZctmtA6rTbHslhjmJnxNYdE79GCsLQtu70CZwpTQVWygPwvBuye9GZl8yOzSJl0qwEXt1W14qiaBmCZPr5eN6ZUhnHrz0ed9oRcWm_dIy1zO6whXyXl5C7B35f9bbvY3jx5PxRb0i62G2zdkeV79vzf9S6Wja.PaRzaOJMu2BTgrS_rb7YhlW7YvQPh1tFMwXi1C8lg2zv5aIsh5QQCt3ZW4RPzkIhKklkVQoGlPtbWq2aILm1VAlz2eOf Received: from [193.173.39.45] by web51409.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:18:22 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:18:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexander Popov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Daniel C. Dowse" In-Reply-To: <20090429150722.e9a36808.dcdowse@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: atacontrol spindown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: aopopov@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:18:25 -0000 Hi, Daniel, This is the output: Checking setuid files and devices: Checking for uids of 0: root 0 toor 0 Checking for passwordless accounts: Checking login.conf permissions: ***.home kernel log messages: +++ /tmp/security.G4QuXmuU 2009-04-29 03:01:08.000000000 +0200 +ad4: Idle, spin down +ad4: drive spun down. +ad8: Idle, spin down +ad8: drive spun down. +ad4: request while spun down, starting. +ad8: request while spun down, starting. +ad8: Idle, spin down +ad8: drive spun down. +ad4: Idle, spin down +ad4: drive spun down. +ad4: request while spun down, starting. The timestamps in /var/log/messages suggested that "+ad4: request while spun down, starting." happened at 3:01 am. It would not be very nice if it was due to cron start up; I don't have any system partitions on those drives, it shouldn't touch them... Regards, Alexander. --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Daniel C. Dowse wrote: > From: Daniel C. Dowse > Subject: Re: atacontrol spindown > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 3:07 PM > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:44:51 -0700 (PDT) > Alexander Popov wrote: > > > > > Hi, Daniel, > > > > It must be periodic(8), but I have trouble identifying > what exactly could be the trigger. If I look at > /etc/defaults/periodic.conf, it has > > daily_clean_disks_enable="NO". > > With respect to daily checks, I just have the default > setup, nothing that I added myself. > > > > Are there any other configuration options that I > should look at? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Hi, Alexander, > > maybe post the part for the disk in your output of your > daily security > checks here, would be much easier to find out what the > trigger may be. > > What file/directories are accessed, when it comes to that > point? > > IMHO: i believe it is just because the hdd is > "there", so i think when > the cron runs it just checks that the disk is still there. > > > thx > > D.Dowse > > > -- > The only reality is virtual! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 13:20:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854531065677 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E52E8FC13 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIV00L226E97A40@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49F85422.20403@videotron.ca> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:20:34 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: Tijl Coosemans References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <49F75E4F.9050200@videotron.ca> <49F77FDD.5090105@videotron.ca> <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org> In-reply-to: <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:20:58 -0000 Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Wednesday 29 April 2009 00:14:53 PJ wrote: > >> Oh, well, another day lost... but, I guess it's better to limp than >> not to walk at all. :-\ >> > > I think it would help if you posted your /etc/rc.conf and > /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Those are the two files that need to change. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Cool. Then I can ask some questions regarding all of this. rc.conf: (snipped to show the relevant entries) font8x16="iso15-8x16" font8x14="iso15-8x14" font8x8="iso15-8x8" allscreens_flags="VGA_80x60 cyan" rpcbind_enable="YES" mountd_flags="-r" nfs_client_enable="YES" nfs_client_flags="-n 4" samba_enable="YES" cupsd_enable="YES" apache22_enable="YES" postgresql_enable="YES" mysql_enable="YES" webmin_enable="YES" #keymap=fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd Question: 1. the font entries? The /usr/share/syscons/fonts/ entry has suffixes of .fnt - ??? 2. the keymap is commented out because, although it gives me the fr_CA keyboard, it also uses French messages which are a bit tortured (French courtly affectations in the language are quaint but also make for long and convoluted terminology - notice that a text translated to French is always longer). K.I.S.S. xorg.conf: (snip for relevant) Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "record" Load "dbe" Load "glx" Load "GLcore" Load "xtrap" Load "dri" Load "freetype" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle" EndSection Questions: 3. This setup enables switching from the default us to what appears to be the French keyboard. The fr_CA has the accented characters assigned to normal keys while keeping most of the English keys normal; the French kbd needs two keypresses to get the accents. Tiresome, not so say dumb. 4. The toggle does not toggle; pressing right_Alt switches to fr but another rtAlt press does nothing. And other Alt combinations don't do anything except freeze the kbd and xterm has to be closed and thereafter the fr is not accessible without a reboot or one must use fluxbox menu to switch the keyboard. How to get the fr_CA instad of the fr? 5. Upon closing xorg, there are these messages: Failed to open file (/usr/local/share/fluxbox/nls/fr_CA.utf-8/fluxbox.cat)... (twice) Checking Google & fluxbox, it appears this file does not exist. Fluxbox simply has not included it in their distribution. Mayba Blackbox has it; I'll have to check. Thanks for any help or suggestions. Phil -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 13:22:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4846A1065672 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aopopov@yahoo.com) Received: from web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A37FA8FC1A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:22:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aopopov@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 41894 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 2009 13:22:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1241011347; bh=SopvlPNQV7/WH5oQVu8G8CPtVwmaPfIlG0DHCXcItUE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=S8oim01R2ArREFpXjGxP3lnD0HHcn/cwUuu4db6EtU25DL9a6jjX0QKQq/AmW/HcscO2r/Cr/X4XVzCMrAmrJdgAohLA7b3wJvoYEb/1A9QnjPSmasxvNVZS+eqMhPvERlVVoSXEFAYqsWcHnqIt6DH/2W5bE3gsn07gQzZRj4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4at0l7FdIKc6A89x74sYrEMYKSNV2121DlbyNcd6G0dniH1nw4kZasFnX+8NSE49cCFs+XFoEcgiQGY4eaUURCF0pySTRE+4KW9qrbMoHFyDb36wsJKUy/8KNufo0QKeIwhe24Y0lZaOh/CcCxx6PuViaNLc77vuBJZP6VRCTAo=; Message-ID: <501643.34624.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: sNHf3i0VM1lEJTGf1ohQEwjo52cUnU8wt2OOjjoOkCSKOGZrltQq5VdUhNeDDWhsWCIDAt2n97th1Pft0BFt7baIKH7jgxC_.3D_pLCpDGYJ9otOVW2nNhPCllHbGwpFRtmLB.52.uOf2adLxR3IzaT.y_8eIuo0AMvffy7Thigy1JDR0ZbDBjVn7fkfdFLG.bJCVbBOuVPBr0Xpw8QtPaAPfKrDtfWKHZGGn7hLZdJXbkAGBnL5RWu_x_63DPgMZdxyRdpbBPJT8L2Kd5NzjmMzdItsOHm1QnlZgNJT4vwTEqTuqQts5Pp.G05owrfBNe8AYXwR Received: from [193.173.39.45] by web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:22:26 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:22:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexander Popov To: "Paul B. Mahol" In-Reply-To: <3a142e750904290617t4a18289xc1ed093cd9cfb485@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Daniel C. Dowse" Subject: Re: atacontrol spindown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: aopopov@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:22:38 -0000 All FreeBSD system partitions are on a disk that I never try to spin down. It is weird that something in periodic daily tries to read from my data disks... Alexander. --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Paul B. Mahol wrote: > From: Paul B. Mahol > Subject: Re: atacontrol spindown > To: aopopov@yahoo.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Daniel C. Dowse" > Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 3:17 PM > On 4/29/09, Alexander Popov wrote: > > > > Hi, Paul, > > > > Below is my /etc/crontab. The only thing that is run > at 3 am is periodic > > daily. > > > > If any of scripts from /etc/crontab needs access(just > reading, not > counting writing, > considering it is not already cached) > on spindowned hard disk your mission will fail. > > If you want to keep logging and logs (via another ways) you > could make > memory disk for root > and var slice ... and transfer logs to another media ... > or use another hard disk for that.... > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 13:25:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D1D106564A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC748FC08 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1152154bwz.43 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:25:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zW+4Ak5ZuqCnZo9fgPWb/KyM5rWNzwJhvil1KH8XCCQ=; b=AuZv6YkUJTTbop2S75UL9mGBfFsCQjayy2DlwYU7hf6PiypaaIFL+Apk/fVUfh07mY KzEP7F0oNEGI3QQe3+wjPZ84Jg2HyXcpqEZq/8kUu6VMHar8Csp3LMo889tVLVMDCvzX nIQzvOqbe3IJFW8c5rxCrQmi/gi0QzN0t0puA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H423bDJ/D8NQOwnGo0kCREMh8GV2aT6l4PVMQgt4u1tyXF9WnfhO3luQoEH87XfmLi ltHJiekhMUysf8B0cwbTbaOMkp87Ohr7f66MsUa42K/P3f1HTznqW/8pwbtup/sOZlEq qWte/CX8kbcJ5QV+wRig8nLShpzGNmi/8eKsc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.170.142 with SMTP id s14mr18216hbe.89.1241011517324; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:25:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <501643.34624.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <3a142e750904290617t4a18289xc1ed093cd9cfb485@mail.gmail.com> <501643.34624.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:25:17 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750904290625h6dae106dyfe282c8a94b80e36@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: aopopov@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Daniel C. Dowse" Subject: Re: atacontrol spindown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:25:19 -0000 On 4/29/09, Alexander Popov wrote: > > All FreeBSD system partitions are on a disk that I never try to spin down. > It is weird that something in periodic daily tries to read from my data > disks... Than disable one by one until problem got fixed(easy to say than done), if not than it is ata bug. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 13:27:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9720106566C for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243D18FC13 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:27:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1153227bwz.43 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:27:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=IeypRx3/LYrH28oM9SefBtZNg0DCFzm8SqUMY+kyRak=; b=bHWjnv1tCFZuKyWRLB/SPc0CBrFcR2ve5hvs4+W1LkXo3lXQvHOHXccKAZNS9tZbvV MqCViSORl6dwnmdUJjq+kGPyyi3Xv7RGDRCA3erUdYYbqSVY1ZBPdXyiQSaT+uPPXXPD 8lFxJVG+s+1VQHGtK5km//KIfYxic/VpOBBaw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=r1Q8li4qzq5O28f8xmb/7ztsZBGmeWqjgMrZABrEU++OBmdstQo4EmdSQoL01QR8n1 yDFKI6JfdATvbfl25a6UV72UFT0BZPmb3ZYI6eVHBj/wpALwtr1qZ16QsZumZq/a9Hko aB74jdzIsZFZJzmm679aLYbs5kvnWO0mDkyPo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.115.193 with SMTP id j1mr200583faq.98.1241011620732; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:27:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: release packages and portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:27:03 -0000 I installed from the FreeBSD 7.2RC2 DVD. I added packages from the DVD, from the ftp site using pkg_add and the release directory, and by executing: portupgrade -NpPrR [package name] I have not updated the system or ports that were installed from the DVD. When I tried to install digikam (I'm taking another look at KDE stuff), I noticed many warning messages that installed packages were of earlier versions than required. Does portupgrade install only the version of a package indicated by the ports version? Does it look for the latest version at the FreeBSD ftp site? Thanks, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 13:27:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5161810656E6 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:27:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [212.13.37.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC778FC22 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.82] (murakami.critical.pt [192.168.1.82]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D642283CF; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:27:57 +0100 (WEST) Message-ID: <49F855DD.6070406@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:27:57 +0100 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: herbert langhans References: <20090428230135.2d0d945d.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20090428230135.2d0d945d.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: X Window - how to get the standard font X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:27:59 -0000 herbert langhans wrote: > Hi Daemons, > a little question: > > I open a shell and invoke: > #xmessage 'hello world' > - it opens the window, but a rather tiny font. > > So I invoke: > #xmessage -fn -*-fixed-*-*-*-*-20-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* 'hello world' > - the same appears in the fontsize I like. > > Now the question: > Can I set the bigger font somewhere, so that i.e. xmessage appears always in the preset, bigger font without typing the whole -fn -*-*.... string in? Somewhere in .xinitrc? > > Checked the man pages, but its a science to find a solution there. > > Thanks > herb langhans > I've seen .Xdefaults files that setup resources for apps such as xcalc and xmessage. Have a look at http://dotfiles.org/~n0nsense/.Xdefaults. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 13:29:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02611065675 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429FD8FC29 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n3TDUxbE062615 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:31:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <49F8564E.2070104@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:29:50 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-GB; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081204 Thunderbird/3.0b1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aopopov@yahoo.com References: <24794.51731.qm@web51409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <24794.51731.qm@web51409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Daniel C. Dowse" Subject: Re: atacontrol spindown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:29:54 -0000 On 29/4/09 14:18, Alexander Popov wrote: > Hi, Daniel, > > This is the output: > > Checking setuid files and devices: > > Checking for uids of 0: > root 0 > toor 0 > > Checking for passwordless accounts: > > Checking login.conf permissions: > > ***.home kernel log messages: > +++ /tmp/security.G4QuXmuU 2009-04-29 03:01:08.000000000 +0200 > +ad4: Idle, spin down > +ad4: drive spun down. > +ad8: Idle, spin down > +ad8: drive spun down. > +ad4: request while spun down, starting. > +ad8: request while spun down, starting. > +ad8: Idle, spin down > +ad8: drive spun down. > +ad4: Idle, spin down > +ad4: drive spun down. > +ad4: request while spun down, starting. > > The timestamps in /var/log/messages suggested that "+ad4: request while spun down, starting." happened at 3:01 am. > > It would not be very nice if it was due to cron start up; I don't have any system partitions on those drives, it shouldn't touch them... > Have a look through /etc/defaults/periodic.conf you will see things like daily_status_disks_enable="YES" in there (does a df -l -h on all disks) and I think some of the security ones do checks for new setuid root files, these are all likely to spin up your disks. Vince > Regards, > > Alexander. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 13:34:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379A01065674 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:34:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0B78FC18 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1157688bwz.43 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:34:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=T3IogeYgCCRi/HPutZkoYljJ3zAZg0olNd6+aSie09k=; b=H9q8zATAg8ebobjfs+/f5s22xXMRYUJpwqqRy7nzle3FSDFr+bPWopfOfzKoey27Wy 4ehOfg2FAxOWTQ2zGwFvp0RiF09EWwhx+3yE7XPj/R8T/pYx6uPPl8Ep8+WKopSlklQK m5rX+aiTmLkYNoRMewFb1F5UpVy4L5kxZONF0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=rohQ2DTHudcuXi9hVW89t2S8Ptg9RlIG7cdTpyONYWC+rI2XQf9KiHSoLqPTV4b9Dx Ia2y7KB7cn9L2JP74xac0BILwC7xxHsFlrd1iqb1WgXjeo9spGm6a9+hKD2GLe/vuDvX G/Co1BksgvWO9o30G1s5FPdQrbatJ4LECk2Qc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.68 with SMTP id a4mr194567fap.104.1241012077720; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:34:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: [Off Topic] question for UML users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:34:39 -0000 I need to create flow charts for analytical and reporting processes at work. I had played with the UML editor that came with PC-BSD and noticed you could store notes with the objects (very cool). Can/should UML be used for something like this? Thanks, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 13:44:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87538106564A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:44:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C78E8FC1E for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LzA5S-00072W-DQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:44:34 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:44:34 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:44:34 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:44:14 +0200 Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF4217B8CDC776E03ABCCB16D" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090409) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Sender: news Subject: Re: release packages and portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:44:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF4217B8CDC776E03ABCCB16D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andrew Gould wrote: > I installed from the FreeBSD 7.2RC2 DVD. I added packages from the DVD= , > from the ftp site using pkg_add and the release directory, and by execu= ting: >=20 > portupgrade -NpPrR [package name] >=20 > I have not updated the system or ports that were installed from the DVD= =2E >=20 > When I tried to install digikam (I'm taking another look at KDE stuff),= I > noticed many warning messages that installed packages were of earlier > versions than required. >=20 > Does portupgrade install only the version of a package indicated by the= > ports version? Does it look for the latest version at the FreeBSD ftp = site? Neither. It looks in /usr/ports/INDEX. --------------enigF4217B8CDC776E03ABCCB16D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn4WbQACgkQldnAQVacBcizOgCgl/mnekrUjGg1ahzzjswlKfHx LB8AnRWGtzIJdHleo0q9ae2lEQN1rJo3 =kQ9I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF4217B8CDC776E03ABCCB16D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 14:40:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C01106566B for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aurelien.ansel@netasq.com) Received: from netasq.netasq.com (netasq.netasq.com [213.30.137.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178A88FC16 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aurelien.ansel@netasq.com) Received: from aureliena.netasq.com (unknown [10.0.0.126]) by netasq.netasq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E0F21141 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:22:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49F86241.2070707@netasq.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:20:49 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Aur=E9lien_Ansel?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Problem with make config and OPTIONS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:40:52 -0000 Hi, (sorry for my poor english) I have a problem, I'm trying to upgrade an existing port (net/scapy) , I have done some changes in the Makefile but when I test the command 'make config' I have : ===> Options unchanged I haven't the dialog box with the differents kinds of Options that are written in the Makefile, i have try the 'make rmconfig' but no change. I am working on my personnal directory, not in /usr/ports/... The Makefile is: # New ports collection makefile for: scapy # Date created: 08 dec 2005 # Whom: vanhu # # $FreeBSD: ports/net/scapy/Makefile,v 1.6 2008/11/19 20:41:56 lwhsu Exp $ # # TODO: - configurable --enable-xxx for various additional dependancies PORTNAME= scapy PORTVERSION= 2.0.0.10 CATEGORIES= net MASTER_SITES= http://secdev.org/projects/scapy/files/ MAINTAINER= vanhu@netasq.com COMMENT= Powerful interactive packet manipulation program in python RUN_DEPENDS= ${PYTHON_SITELIBDIR}/dnet.so:${PORTSDIR}/net/py-libdnet \ ${PYTHON_SITELIBDIR}/pcap.py:${PORTSDIR}/net/py-pcap MAN1= scapy.1 MANCOMPRESSED= yes USE_PYTHON= 2.5+ USE_PYDISTUTILS=yes OPTIONS= PYX "Support for PostScript and PDF graphs drawing" off \ PYCRYPTO "Support for py-crypto for WEP decoding" off \ PYGNUPLOT "Support for py-gnuplot wrapper to plot graphs" off \ P0F_BASE "Support for p0f OS signatures database" off \ QUESO_BASE "Support for queso OS signatures database" off \ NMAP "Support for nmap OS signatures database" off \ MANUF "Support for wireshark's MANUF MAC database" off .include .if defined(WITH_PYX) RUN_DEPENDS+= ${PYTHON_SITELIBDIR}/pyx/__init__.py:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/py-PyX .endif .if defined(WITH_PYCRYPTO) RUN_DEPENDS+= ${PYTHON_SITELIBDIR}/Crypto/__init__.py:${PORTSDIR}/security/py-pycrypto .endif .if defined(WITH_PYGNUPLOT) RUN_DEPENDS+= ${PYTHON_SITELIBDIR}/Gnuplot/__init__.py:${PORTSDIR}/math/py-gnuplot .endif .if defined(WITH_P0F_BASE) RUN_DEPENDS+= ${LOCALBASE}/etc/p0f/p0f.fp:${PORTSDIR}/net-mgmt/p0f .endif .if defined(WITH_QUESO_BASE) RUN_DEPENDS+= ${LOCALBASE}/etc/queso.conf:${PORTSDIR}/net/queso .endif .if defined(WITH_NMAP) RUN_DEPENDS+= ${LOCALBASE}/share/nmap/nmap-os-fingerprints:${PORTSDIR}/security/nmap .endif .if defined(WITH_MANUF) RUN_DEPENDS+= ${LOCALBASE}/share/wireshark/manuf:${PORTSDIR}/net/wireshark .endif SCAPY_MODULES= nmap.py p0f.py queso.py post-patch: @${REINPLACE_CMD} "s,share/man/man1,man/man1," ${WRKSRC}/setup.py @${REINPLACE_CMD} "s,%%LOCALBASE%%,${LOCALBASE}," \ ${SCAPY_MODULES:S,^,${WRKSRC}/scapy/modules/,} \ ${WRKSRC}/scapy/config.py \ ${WRKSRC}/scapy/utils6.py .include - Aurélien Ansel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 14:47:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7C01065670 for ; 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b=qiQqfPihieZpSAoyzh6AVBE84MGUscEIubSIR7S9AicPPYDEOnyKpUBajTqYjfGIFR 7SD3tUgzNgMH/XcxEpV+2kqKINsHJumO70Q78jqaM5RwMO3MhBtbSQcN4AAHLUMnV3/3 UoUjqkkreevDWgh+ngO388BxvC48r1QTIo/gU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.63.18 with SMTP id l18mr461204eba.78.1241016431776; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:47:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F86241.2070707@netasq.com> References: <49F86241.2070707@netasq.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:47:11 -0400 Message-ID: <27ade5280904290747o63e0b5dqd714637f08496e64@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia To: =?UTF-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_Ansel?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with make config and OPTIONS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:47:15 -0000 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Aur=C3=A9lien Ansel wrote: > Hi, > (sorry for my poor english) > > I have a problem, I'm trying to upgrade an existing port (net/scapy) , I > have done some changes in the Makefile but when I test the command 'make > config' I have : > > =C2=A0 =3D=3D=3D> Options unchanged > > I haven't the dialog box with the differents kinds of Options that are > written in the Makefile, i have try the 'make rmconfig' but no change. > I am working on my personnal directory, not in /usr/ports/... > > The Makefile is: > > # New ports collection makefile for: =C2=A0 =C2=A0scapy > # Date created: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A008 dec 2005 > # Whom: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0vanhu > # > # $FreeBSD: ports/net/scapy/Makefile,v 1.6 2008/11/19 20:41:56 lwhsu Exp = $ > # > # TODO: - configurable --enable-xxx for various additional dependancies > > PORTNAME=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A0scapy > PORTVERSION=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A02.0.0.10 > CATEGORIES=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A0net > MASTER_SITES=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://secdev.org/projects/scapy/files/ > > MAINTAINER=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A0vanhu@netasq.com > COMMENT=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A0Powerful interactive packet manipulation program = in python > > RUN_DEPENDS=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A0${PYTHON_SITELIBDIR}/dnet.so:${PORTSDIR}/net/= py-libdnet \ > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ${PYTHON_SITELIBDIR}/pcap.py:${PORTSDIR}/net/py-pcap > > MAN1=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0scapy.1 > MANCOMPRESSED=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A0yes > > USE_PYTHON=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A02.5+ > USE_PYDISTUTILS=3Dyes > > OPTIONS=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A0PYX "Support for PostScript and PDF graphs drawin= g" off \ > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 PYCRYPTO "Support for py-crypto for WEP decoding" of= f \ > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 PYGNUPLOT "Support for py-gnuplot wrapper to plot gr= aphs" off \ > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 P0F_BASE "Support for p0f OS signatures database" of= f \ > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 QUESO_BASE "Support for queso OS signatures database= " off \ > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 NMAP "Support for nmap OS signatures database" off \ > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 MANUF "Support for wireshark's MANUF MAC database" o= ff > > .include > > .if defined(WITH_PYX) > RUN_DEPENDS+=3D > =C2=A0${PYTHON_SITELIBDIR}/pyx/__init__.py:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/py-PyX > .endif > > .if defined(WITH_PYCRYPTO) > RUN_DEPENDS+=3D > =C2=A0${PYTHON_SITELIBDIR}/Crypto/__init__.py:${PORTSDIR}/security/py-pyc= rypto > .endif > > .if defined(WITH_PYGNUPLOT) > RUN_DEPENDS+=3D > =C2=A0${PYTHON_SITELIBDIR}/Gnuplot/__init__.py:${PORTSDIR}/math/py-gnuplo= t > .endif > > .if defined(WITH_P0F_BASE) > RUN_DEPENDS+=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A0${LOCALBASE}/etc/p0f/p0f.fp:${PORTSDIR}/net-= mgmt/p0f > .endif > > .if defined(WITH_QUESO_BASE) > RUN_DEPENDS+=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A0${LOCALBASE}/etc/queso.conf:${PORTSDIR}/net/= queso > .endif > > .if defined(WITH_NMAP) > RUN_DEPENDS+=3D > =C2=A0${LOCALBASE}/share/nmap/nmap-os-fingerprints:${PORTSDIR}/security/n= map > .endif > > .if defined(WITH_MANUF) > RUN_DEPENDS+=3D > =C2=A0${LOCALBASE}/share/wireshark/manuf:${PORTSDIR}/net/wireshark > .endif > > SCAPY_MODULES=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A0nmap.py p0f.py queso.py > > post-patch: > =C2=A0 @${REINPLACE_CMD} "s,share/man/man1,man/man1," ${WRKSRC}/setup.py > =C2=A0 @${REINPLACE_CMD} "s,%%LOCALBASE%%,${LOCALBASE}," \ > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ${SCAPY_MODULES:S,^,${WRKSRC}/scapy/modules/,} \ > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ${WRKSRC}/scapy/config.py \ > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ${WRKSRC}/scapy/utils6.py > > .include > > > > > - Aur=C3=A9lien Ansel The port options are stored in /var/db/ports. You can delete the "options" file for your package from that dir. There's also ways to force the configuration of files using portupgrade/portmaster. For portmaster, the command is "portmaster --force-config". I don't know about portupgrade. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 15:01:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15589106566B for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FBA8FC24 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: from pd4ml2so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.136]) by pd4mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2009 09:01:49 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=7_6Bj09HsMAPRH31rscA:9 a=4h8HUibjxWyWvCVDQVudZySaG-4A:4 a=nAPXUAfsBmEA:10 a=d45SQ17l6pYA:10 Received: from s010600121729c74c.vc.shawcable.net (HELO proven.lan) ([24.85.241.34]) by pd4ml2so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2009 09:01:49 -0600 Received: from proven.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proven.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3TF1nTf099367; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:01:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: by proven.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3TF1nM5099366; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:01:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) X-Authentication-Warning: proven.lan: npapke set sender to npapke@acm.org using -f From: Norbert Papke Organization: Archaeological Filing To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:01:48 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904290801.48813.npapke@acm.org> Cc: Andrew Gould Subject: Re: [Off Topic] question for UML users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:01:51 -0000 On April 29, 2009, Andrew Gould wrote: > I need to create flow charts for analytical and reporting processes at > work. I had played with the UML editor that came with PC-BSD and noticed > you could store notes with the objects (very cool). > > Can/should UML be used for something like this? UML is a notation that facilitates communications (amongst other things). If UML helps get the message across, there is no reason not to use it. If you need to express concepts that traditionally had been captured using flow charts, UML activity diagrams and/or state charts will likely allow you to do the same. Cheers, -- Norbert Papke. npapke@acm.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 15:16:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B32106564A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:16:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from hrimail.hri.res.in (hrimail.hri.res.in [210.212.50.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46198FC17 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from ipc2.mri.ernet.in (unknown [192.168.3.2]) by hrimail.hri.res.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCAA97ED3; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:58:51 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (riemann.mri.ernet.in [192.168.3.122]) by ipc2.mri.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148BB76051; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:46:40 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n3TFDui5030488; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:43:56 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu@riemann.mri.ernet.in) Received: (from raghu@localhost) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n3TFDr2g030487; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:43:53 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu) From: "N. Raghavendra" To: herbert langhans In-Reply-To: <20090428230135.2d0d945d.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> (herbert langhans's message of "Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:01:35 +0200") References: <20090428230135.2d0d945d.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> X-Organization: Harish-Chandra Research Institute (HRI) X-Address: Chhatnag Road, Jhusi, Allahabad 211 019, India X-URL: http://www.mri.ernet.in/ and http://www.retrotexts.net/ X-Phone: +91 (532) 2667 509, 2667 318, 2667 578, 2567 746, 2567 747 X-Fax: +91 (532) 2667 576, 2567 748, 2567 444, 2568 036 X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x03618806 X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: C75D D0AF 457E 7454 BEC2 37AD C6E1 0407 0361 8806 X-OpenPGP-Public-Key-Available-At: http://www.keyserver.net/ Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:43:53 +0530 Message-ID: <868wljcx1q.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: X Window - how to get the standard font X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "N. Raghavendra" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:16:48 -0000 At 2009-04-28T23:01:35+02:00, herbert langhans wrote: > #xmessage -fn -*-fixed-*-*-*-*-20-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* 'hello world' > - the same appears in the fontsize I like. > > Now the question: > Can I set the bigger font somewhere, so that i.e. xmessage appears > always in the preset, bigger font without typing the whole -fn > -*-*.... string in? Somewhere in .xinitrc? You can add the line xmessage*font: -*-fixed-*-*-*-*-20-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* to the file `~/.Xresources'. (I think that file is read at the start of the X session, but to be certain you can add xrdb -merge ${HOME}/.Xresources to ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession, as the case may be. I personally keep my Xresources elsewhere, and merge them as above.) HTH, Raghavendra. -- N. Raghavendra | http://www.retrotexts.net/ Harish-Chandra Research Institute | http://www.mri.ernet.in/ See message headers for contact and OpenPGP information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 15:37:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0E21065672 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from farremosen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798F18FC13 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from farremosen@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1268652ewy.43 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:37:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MBtE/o2EmcrlB4puYCZUL57l/7UA2NiIOhzY5BFTsCA=; b=fOcnJHDN7yscrXDnewjrnxVp98HI11+aB4GjpuUkJjfstVPeMJYVlEsrQmH67ugc1I 5+sI6cz56LJaNtw+nMVUUVd1fyAkLzTfHU+zY6LV/cMrD8FwbdyBXSgDIdUq9pKnXcLc sNtnAJrd/+1phoDbDe4RSeN+pt1ZEuF20w2Eo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=t30fUFell9U+BRymiBCe2FWM0WaoHQ/n/laQTm6fvG4tOGDadFlpNggnuUa4MFsexz QZC8ZwBIX5X+WkR2VXwnm8TTBSK3Dqf9WUTPT9Yk2rFr9EvaIEx6mEQ6QT+vEi3qijlR amJPQMmxLftWKmyNQotAZ4zQuUvnhlfu0PTM4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.26.82 with SMTP id b60mr127665wea.177.1241019467404; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:37:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:37:47 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Klaus_Friis_=D8stergaard?= To: "illoai@gmail.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ruby18 or Portupgrade error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:37:49 -0000 29. apr. 2009 09.23 skrev Klaus Friis =D8stergaard : > 28. apr. 2009 18.17 skrev illoai@gmail.com : >> 2009/4/28 Klaus Friis =D8stergaard : >>> Hi, >>> >>> While upgrade gnome I have run into to this error, is it related to >>> portupgrade or Ruby18 or something different. >>> >>> kfo@prod01% sudo portupgrade -aOW -x x11/gdm =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/home/kfo >>> mktemp: mkdtemp failed on /var/tmp/portupgradedtlzuto6: Too many links >>> /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgmisc.rb:140:in `init_tmpdir': >>> Could not create temporary directory in /var/tmp (RuntimeError) >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgtools.rb:260:i= n >>> `init_pkgtools_global' >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:529:in `main' >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:787:in `initial= ize' >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `new' >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `main' >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:2208 >>> kfo@prod01% >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0/home/kfo >>> >>> I am not experience any other problems on the system. >>> >>> I have tried to csup and manually done make deisntall and make install >>> of both portupgrade and ruby18. >>> >>> It seems that I something are able to run portupgrade right after >>> Reboot, but second time or is not run right after reboot this failure >>> occure. >> >> Try running pkgdb -fFu >> >> If that doesn't help, after making sure you've upgraded >> ruby, try rebuilding databases/db41 and databases/ruby-bdb >> (in that order) >> and then running pkgdb -fFu > > If I try to run pkgdb -fFu =A0get this > > kfo@prod01% sudo pkgdb -fFu > mktemp: mkdtemp failed on /var/tmp/portupgradeA4dPHC7m: Too many links > Could not create temporary directory in /var/tmp > kfo@prod01% > > I get the same result after I did rebuild ruby, db41 and ruby-bdb in that= order. > > I did make install, then make deinstall, then make reinstall, I did > not make any =A0distclean before compiling. > > /klaus > I found the failure, in my /var/tmp there where many files mainly gvfs-{user}-* which I removed then no problem with too many links. Does any body know why gnome does not seem to clean up the gvfs files after= use? /Klaus From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 16:02:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B574C106566C for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4932D8FC12 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3TG2AKB085878; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:02:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7F67EBA8E; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:02:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:02:10 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20090429160210.GA370@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090429112034.GA78785@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090429112034.GA78785@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X failed to load modules "xtrap" and "freetype" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:02:53 -0000 --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:20:34PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I'm getting these errors on from xorg-server-1.6.0,1 on > FBSD 8.0-current i386: > =20 > (EE) Failed to load module "xtrap" (module does not exist, 0) > (EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0) >=20 > Some posts on the net indicate that these X extentions > no longer exist. Is that so? I got these simply from > running X -configure >=20 > Please advise The xtrap module was removed because it was obsolete / unused / broken / unmaintained. See http://www.x.org/wiki/Server16Branch, under 'Features Removed'.=20 The functionality of the freetype module is now contained in the libXfont library.=20 You can remove both lines from your xorg.conf. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkn4egIACgkQEnfvsMMhpyX7GACdF9BiQm/D6zwUZTrBg9ucHue5 hlEAn3zd+uSFbulDb4nZ4R7hRmsJMxNs =2oJ9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 17:24:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3768106566B for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DCF048FC1D for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Apr 2009 17:24:26 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO bobcat.edu) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp067) with SMTP; 29 Apr 2009 19:24:26 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+kgMIxMWWkeOdjvX50/vaNIb/KAxTW3ssoKkTGTH KNDjeuPpmW53us Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:24:29 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: , , Message-Id: <20090429192429.f2046d8c.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <49F855DD.6070406@gmail.com> References: <20090428230135.2d0d945d.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> <49F855DD.6070406@gmail.com> Organization: private X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) X-Face: q+q_R4e*MWOR3888mPIAZc/FNaS!=`.[B6uaBUuT)S0@80[:sij*]j?Vo57(D|Gt-kv8h\y M~EX/qT%sIl^Z(x'h(r}f%$KLA[ZBIpzr{$|9w!e9]>isP8uu-A6k:}[)={{B}(@}*lOADil'U|daw xlj24v2,"<%CX2@vhLl+yo_u.K Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.61 Cc: Subject: Re: Re: X Window - how to get the standard font X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:24:28 -0000 Well, I asked the Daemons and got an answer from Jesus and a Guru ;) Thank you guys , problem solved! herbs On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:27:57 +0100 Ricardo Jesus wrote: > herbert langhans wrote: > > Hi Daemons, > > a little question: > > > > I open a shell and invoke: > > #xmessage 'hello world' > > - it opens the window, but a rather tiny font. > > > > So I invoke: > > #xmessage -fn -*-fixed-*-*-*-*-20-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* 'hello world' > > - the same appears in the fontsize I like. > > > > Now the question: > > Can I set the bigger font somewhere, so that i.e. xmessage appears always in the preset, bigger font without typing the whole -fn -*-*.... string in? Somewhere in .xinitrc? > > > > Checked the man pages, but its a science to find a solution there. > > > > Thanks > > herb langhans > > > I've seen .Xdefaults files that setup resources for apps such as xcalc > and xmessage. > > Have a look at http://dotfiles.org/~n0nsense/.Xdefaults. > -- ******* Herbert Langhans, Warschau ******* Sprachtraining Langhans ******* http://www.langhans.com.pl ******* herbert.raimund@gmx.net ******* NIP 526-229-61-51 ******* Regon 014911759 ******* Tel. 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 17:34:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6351065674 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from mailrelay006.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay006.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45ADE8FC0A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhsFAAAr+ElR9NTF/2dsb2JhbACBUM8Qg3UF Received: from 197.212-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.kotnet.org) ([81.244.212.197]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2009 19:34:03 +0200 Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3THX4Vj008653; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:33:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:33:03 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F85422.20403@videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <49F85422.20403@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:34:13 -0000 On Wednesday 29 April 2009 15:20:34 PJ wrote: > Cool. Then I can ask some questions regarding all of this. > > rc.conf: (snipped to show the relevant entries) > font8x16="iso15-8x16" > font8x14="iso15-8x14" > font8x8="iso15-8x8" > allscreens_flags="VGA_80x60 cyan" > rpcbind_enable="YES" > mountd_flags="-r" > nfs_client_enable="YES" > nfs_client_flags="-n 4" > samba_enable="YES" > cupsd_enable="YES" > apache22_enable="YES" > postgresql_enable="YES" > mysql_enable="YES" > webmin_enable="YES" > #keymap=fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd > > Question: > 1. the font entries? The /usr/share/syscons/fonts/ entry has suffixes > of .fnt - ??? Your font and keymap settings are ok. The extensions can be omitted. See the EXAMPLES sections in vidcontrol(1) and kbdcontrol(1). > 2. the keymap is commented out because, although it gives me the > fr_CA keyboard, it also uses French messages which are a bit tortured > (French courtly affectations in the language are quaint but also make > for long and convoluted terminology - notice that a text translated > to French is always longer). K.I.S.S. Keyboard settings shouldn't affect message localisation. Do you set the environment variable LANG in ~/.login_conf or in a shell startup script (.profile or .cshrc or other depending on the shell)? If so, set it to en_CA.ISO8859-15 or something. From q5 below I think you've currently set it to fr_CA.utf-8. > xorg.conf: (snip for relevant) > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "extmod" > Load "record" > Load "dbe" > Load "glx" > Load "GLcore" > Load "xtrap" > Load "dri" > Load "freetype" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > Option "XkbModel" "pc104" This might have to be pc105, but it probably doesn't matter. > Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be set to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or "ca(fr)". > Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle" If you don't need layout switching just delete this. > EndSection > > Questions: > 3. This setup enables switching from the default us to what appears > to be the French keyboard. The fr_CA has the accented characters > assigned to normal keys while keeping most of the English keys > normal; the French kbd needs two keypresses to get the accents. > Tiresome, not so say dumb. The French have an azerty layout with accented letters also directly available. > 4. The toggle does not toggle; pressing right_Alt switches to fr but > another rtAlt press does nothing. And other Alt combinations don't do > anything except freeze the kbd and xterm has to be closed and > thereafter the fr is not accessible without a reboot or one must use > fluxbox menu to switch the keyboard. How to get the fr_CA instad of > the fr? I don't know anything about toggling. > 5. Upon closing xorg, there are these messages: > Failed to open file > (/usr/local/share/fluxbox/nls/fr_CA.utf-8/fluxbox.cat)... (twice) > Checking Google & fluxbox, it appears this file does not exist. Fluxbox > simply has not included it in their distribution. > Mayba Blackbox has it; I'll have to check. Probably harmless. It's just for message localisation. It should fall back on English. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 17:44:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B839106566C for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) Received: from mxsf06.insightbb.com (mxsf06.insightbb.com [74.128.0.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C308FC1A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from StevenFriedrich@InsightBB.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,267,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="647391518" Received: from unknown (HELO asav03.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf06.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2009 13:44:39 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak8CAL8u+ElKg4ed/2dsb2JhbAAI0F+DdQU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,267,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="90342262" Received: from 74-131-135-157.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO [192.168.2.3]) ([74.131.135.157]) by asavout03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2009 13:44:39 -0400 Message-ID: <49F8914B.5060601@InsightBB.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:41:31 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert References: <49F5F9F9.5050506@InsightBB.com> <443absdhg1.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <49F73F43.30101@InsightBB.com> <49F74466.7050409@otenet.gr> <49F77618.9090203@InsightBB.com> <44ljpjlkkb.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44ljpjlkkb.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Manolis Kiagias , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chicken and egg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:44:41 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Steven Friedrich writes: > >> On a system with cairo installed, try pkg_info -r cairo\*|grep drm >> >> Here's from one of my systems: >> Dependency: libdrm-2.4.9 > > I did, and don't have that dependency. I also looked (somewhat quickly, > admittedly) through the makefiles for a way it could be optionally > produced, and didn't come up with anything. > > If you want help, assuming that people are idiots is not going to get > you very far. Especially when most of us can't reproduce what you're > seeing. Perhaps you have an older set of ports? If you can figure out > where the dependency came from on your system, it would be a start > towards other people being able to provide advice. > > Good luck. If I have insulted you, I guess it was with the command line using grep, I am sorry. I was not my intent to insult you or insinuate that any of you are idiots. I hold nix people in the highest regard. I've been running FreeBSD since 1.1.5 (or something like that, it was in what I believe was the very first FreeBSD book published). But I must admit, I'm still struggling to maintain my systems. For example, I believe that this libdrm dependency that I say cairo has is because cairo has two configurable options, Glitz and XCB. I have both selected. Some ports have config options but I can't find any doc that tells me what other ports might benefit from them. Perhaps no other ports can utilize cairo Glitz OpenGL support? I went to their web site and read their doc, but that doesn't yield FreeBSD specific info. I removed all ports, and /usr/local and /var/db/pkg, as suggested by Manolis. I updated my ports tree and make fetchindex, but many ports are failing and I have to go to their directory and make reinstall, sometimes I also have to make clean. I think this is caused by the fetched INDEX being slightly out of date with the tree. I think this wouldn't happen with portsdb -uU. I've started with no ports and added xorg and portupgrade. I'm now installing gnome2. I checked the installed packages with pkg_info and noticed that cairo is installed and I checked it;s dependencies and libdrm is there again. I believe this is because of Glitz option. -- Steven Friedrich Lexington, KY 40509 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 17:48:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583AF106564A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@cjones.org) Received: from maxine.cjones.org (chris.static.MT.net [206.127.66.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3243B8FC0A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@cjones.org) Received: by maxine.cjones.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 8E786A40EE; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:48:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Keith Seyffarth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090429174842.8E786A40EE@maxine.cjones.org> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:48:42 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Gnucash 2.2.7_2 after upgrade to Firefox 3.0.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: weif@weif.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:48:44 -0000 Is anyone else having issues wit Gnucash 2.2.7 crashing when you try to open an account after portupgrading Firefox in response to security audit reports from about a week ago? (that's the only change I can think of that seems to coincide with the change in behavior; and yes, I did look through UPDATING for known issues first...) Gnucash will launch just fine, but when I try to open an account it crashes. Running Gnucash in debug mode only reports that there was a segmentation fault and core was dumped. Looking through the Gnucash FAQ on the Gnucash site, I saw that there was an issue similar to this on Windows, and their recommended fix was to remove ~/.gconf, ~/.gconfd, ~/gnome2, and ~/gnucash. Though these instructions were for windows, I tried moving those files to see if that made a difference, but it didn't. I also tried pkg_deleting gnucash and then portinstalling it again, as well as removing the ~/gnucash directory, or removing all the various .log files and .xac files from the ~/gnucash directory, but I continue to have the same behavior; gnucash will open, but trying to open an account in gnucash (either by clicking the "Open" button or by double clicking the account name) gets gnucash to dump core. I have also downloaded the source tarball for gnucash 2.2.9 from sourceforge, but encounter an issue running ./configure on that, as it is not finding gettext (which I appear to have installed at /usr/local/bin/gettext). Ideas? Thoughts? Suggestions? Keith S. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 17:49:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458B81065674 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EDF8FC1C for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so817661yxb.13 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:49:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=InWG9E3o7Tzs8+dKPPu9mEU3ASRoKWucpgG8xRCCIcE=; b=bsvpHTasa+nN1k7vPZKPGqATA6Syk3alGh4TFp8auX4+nb0L5zS6dtlk8umhisKIaV 84AajXjYh1CmGq/vHb4txfjfb3TrDAeQMQputFF2YjEobX7sjc7q9Xh/puk16ydi1IcJ rQAroeuD/SiCU3rpn7cYdTbzoTmxm3htnHZBc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=muSTrnyACx9aDcG+oRFTrECOBIeZ+nbYKo73PlRJ9/GfWwWl5MC2k2FZNNvxDLW1xP rhP9iuPR/cPgXD63+IgvrlQGfadXU4LBNjOTGE1tJojQGHeWbYE5fsPSBYVvEF4F1VcQ mwnCT4n8Vdmd++P52tneXjWWKsE9I4H1ga7n0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.99.5 with SMTP id w5mr83369agb.37.1241027397182; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:49:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:49:37 -0400 Message-ID: <26ddd1750904291049s22eb912dg81a105e5f783f44@mail.gmail.com> To: Anton Yuzhaninov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:49:58 -0000 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Anton Yuzhaninov wrote: > On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:28:01 -0400, Maxim Khitrov wrote: > MK> I'm setting up a firewall and would like to monitor certain system > MK> parameters like network, cpu, and memory usage. SNMP is an obvious > MK> choice to do the monitoring and I'm planning to set up rrdtool to > MK> generate graphs of captured data. The question is what SNMP agent to > MK> use. I found net-snmp and bsnmpd (which is included in the base > MK> system). Has anyone here used both implementations, and if so, what > MK> are the basic differences? > > main difference is the set of supported MIBs. > > In general net-snmp supports more MIBs than bsnmpd. > > E. g. BEGEMOT-PF-MIB supported only by bsnmpd and useful for monitoring pf(4), > UCD-SNMP-MIB supported only by net-snmp and useful for monitoring CPU load > (ssCpuRaw* counters). Is there any other documentation to bsnmpd besides the one man page? I'm trying to figure how to configure the daemon (first task is stop it from listening on *:*), but besides the man page and few comments in /etc/snmpd.config there is no other information that I can find. - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 18:08:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB7D106564A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:08:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F588FC14 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1319073bwz.43 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:08:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=EGPgx2AfAsQGmQhmasJ5xa3OCs8W15Rs0KiIH2KAD1k=; b=VmFC3kWc8LWhyTeG0TNhgaLl15ePltTK77wNb/JZFoEpwBDTOHbhbSmXOj7OiaGDMM 3BC6jYX+kjc58CzDlDoGG0HqXrxgAoddZh6C4LUHvAUhExOBPscg7hvLr6QVKHXSVjNZ 9Htm9YkrjvG35UiDrKOtnOUzvrv76rL4FsZa4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=cSXRj0TdqTYj4jNKiEKtFunOM+wggM9oDbsr4C8G9AJRIu0L22TxQ7jFKw6iw5BQGf JtxpfBdQ5EEo5VtR7loh+/JT9YT4a5ruiR2eeerSuvE0N68YmzuAsKu2vXNeg8n+O7X1 Uwg7QEtTilK8V4Rkw6M9ZWLmxhPwGFLrLPC0A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.115.193 with SMTP id j1mr370118faq.98.1241028501689; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:08:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090429174842.8E786A40EE@maxine.cjones.org> References: <20090429174842.8E786A40EE@maxine.cjones.org> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:08:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: weif@weif.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnucash 2.2.7_2 after upgrade to Firefox 3.0.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:08:23 -0000 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Keith Seyffarth wrote: > > Is anyone else having issues wit Gnucash 2.2.7 crashing when you try > to open an account after portupgrading Firefox in response to security > audit reports from about a week ago? > > (that's the only change I can think of that seems to coincide with the > change in behavior; and yes, I did look through UPDATING for known > issues first...) > > Gnucash will launch just fine, but when I try to open an account it > crashes. Running Gnucash in debug mode only reports that there was a > segmentation fault and core was dumped. > > Looking through the Gnucash FAQ on the Gnucash site, I saw that there > was an issue similar to this on Windows, and their recommended fix was > to remove ~/.gconf, ~/.gconfd, ~/gnome2, and ~/gnucash. Though these > instructions were for windows, I tried moving those files to see if > that made a difference, but it didn't. > > I also tried pkg_deleting gnucash and then portinstalling it again, as > well as removing the ~/gnucash directory, or removing all the various > .log files and .xac files from the ~/gnucash directory, but I continue > to have the same behavior; gnucash will open, but trying to open an > account in gnucash (either by clicking the "Open" button or by double > clicking the account name) gets gnucash to dump core. > > I have also downloaded the source tarball for gnucash 2.2.9 from > sourceforge, but encounter an issue running ./configure on that, as it > is not finding gettext (which I appear to have installed at > /usr/local/bin/gettext). > > Ideas? Thoughts? Suggestions? > > Keith S. > _______________________________________________ > If you think the problem is related to upgrading Firefox, try pkg_deleting Firefox. Also, I think portupgrade has an option where it will list all of the applications that will be affected by an upgrade without actually doing the upgrade (see 'man portupgrade'). Try this: 1. Get a list of applications that would be affected by portupgrading firefox and its dependencies (list A). 2. Then get a list of applications that would be affected by portupgrading gnucash and its dependencies (list B). 3. Your problem may be in a dependency that is on both list A and list B. Good luck, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 18:25:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8B7106568A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE978FC15 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ppp-71-139-35-171.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [71.139.35.171]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n3TIPYOF033155; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49F89B9C.7040504@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:25:32 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090424) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: beech@freebsd.org Subject: Problem calling through skype X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:25:35 -0000 Beginning from some recent ports update (? maybe) I get a problem making voice calls with Skype. Symptoms are: All calls disconnect after exactly one minute. Time counter on top of the window runs slow. Like one second per 7 real seconds. Version is 2.0.0.72 but it used to work ok for a long time so it doesn't seem to be related to version. It's either something with update of other packages, or some change in protocol not well taken by linux skype run on freebsd. Anyone sees similar problem? Yuri FreeBSD-7.2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 18:31:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A617C1065676 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=gIjIF4tr=A3=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66A58FC20 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=gIjIF4tr=A3=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3TIV1CX085379 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:31:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; h=from:subject:message-id:date:x-asarian_host-trace:x-asarian_host-virus-checked:organization:to:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; c=nofws; s=anon; d=asarian-host.net; b=jYGDbFopGweY+jJLXS1GrLxU37KHf0s7qexWlqtrFBifnhy+qBViwD+fMvRYlSIR73OU+oHWfRECNzfy4HQIPhxLmg2An5G+kHv71egIj2n3DjoePqTF056qKiVBqxalFAcBShZf3jTWShPDExRD1OYnYBgjitFWx/i1tewamYY= From: Mark Message-Id: <200904291831.n3TIGfjm084494@asarian-host.net> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:31:00 GMT X-ASARIAN_HOST-Trace: WR3PMRwAjJN9DwmkqToyloDPuKF8ngfycMV0LdY/NxY= X-ASARIAN_HOST-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-ASARIAN_HOST-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint X-ASARIAN_HOST-Virus-Checked: Scanned by ClamAV on asarian-host.net Organization: Asarian-host To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: PostgreSQL 8.3.7 builds incomplete X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:31:08 -0000 I'm new to PostgreSQL. Just installed the latest version, 8.3.7 (client + server) on my new FreeBSD 7.1 system. Gotta say, there's something seriously broken with this package. First of all, it doesn't install 'include' files anywhere (real useful for installing DBD-Pg-2.13.1, later on). And worse, it generates no 'pg_config' file (also needed for installing DBD-Pg-2.13.1, later on). PostgreSQL actually installs, and runs. But as a result of the totally incomplete install/compile, I can't build DBD-Pg-2.13.1 (for Perl) thereafter. So, how do I get /usr/ports/databases/postgresql84-server/ to build normally? Thanks, - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 18:36:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCE21065675 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:36:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDE78FC12 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 28520 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2009 18:36:40 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 29 Apr 2009 18:36:40 -0000 Message-ID: <49F89E2F.2040806@telenix.org> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:36:31 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: filesystem compatibility between FreeBSD and OpenBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:36:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I just put a OpenBSD partition on a EIDE disk I had laying around. I'd had some advice (apparently bad) that the OpenBSD UFS filesystem could provide a filesystem that I could access from FreeBSD ... least, just now when I tried to mount either of the two filesystems I just created on FreeBSD, FreeBSD seems to recognize the disklabel just fine (it sees, in /dev, both ad1s1d and ad1s1e), but FreeBSD can't seem to mount either one. Is there ANY filesystem that would be a good bet, so that I could transfer stuff to & from FreeBSD to OpenBSD? Besides (obviously) UFS? Thanks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn4ni8ACgkQz62J6PPcoOm1mACePe5wltWsl0iLuIAzdYJ1M6RS /PIAnjEMFi1MdMYDkPkadva+gjbqRMLN =Wd2g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 18:39:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60941065676 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:39:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f162.google.com (mail-fx0-f162.google.com [209.85.220.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07F88FC15 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:39:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so1355911fxm.43 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:39:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=U5EcLxxrHcYgkexySPHK9DUBNEhojNwfMkTQZg9hOrw=; b=BbGtsd5QFknihz3tzjE89rW69f1aQAsJs2tEcEnkVF7d6Q5cWgpzaw+3KTw0ngrl0p qn3APP6w+2ll+j8Jl8r4bVFHk9SLaVGA9MEr8xLBfInMx3R2Ob44gTR3zbLjbbvAjz92 lzEQDlHh9lrFwrKo/00292zcIcszFzh77S7og= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=QKWgZJNp3qQORbHSHRpSpzCq3ylujPEvsYwEXfr/9l4BwPSnlbNhQPZmxmaIE+ziEe 5OrOweHCvoye3yEEJ0PGljwBY+MwjkZqSnt2VWtYHsJ9JgD55ah/q1xyD4WZxApqRDlX Pnjfp+z9iBH1+okFEesDutiMsobhkKfbe1f4Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.111.211 with SMTP id t19mr383536fap.64.1241030390689; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:39:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200904291831.n3TIGfjm084494@asarian-host.net> References: <200904291831.n3TIGfjm084494@asarian-host.net> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:39:50 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Mark Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 8.3.7 builds incomplete X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:39:54 -0000 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Mark wrote: > I'm new to PostgreSQL. Just installed the latest version, 8.3.7 (client + > > server) on my new FreeBSD 7.1 system. Gotta say, there's something > > seriously broken with this package. First of all, it doesn't install > > 'include' files anywhere (real useful for installing DBD-Pg-2.13.1, later > > on). And worse, it generates no 'pg_config' file (also needed for > > installing DBD-Pg-2.13.1, later on). > > > > PostgreSQL actually installs, and runs. But as a result of the totally > > incomplete install/compile, I can't build DBD-Pg-2.13.1 (for Perl) > > thereafter. So, how do I get /usr/ports/databases/postgresql84-server/ to > > build normally? > > Thanks, > > - Mark > _______________________________________________ > You're message initially references an incomplete build of PostgreSQL 8.3.7; but ends asking about PostgreSQL 8.4. Which are you trying to build? I would expect version 8.3.* to build normally. PostgreSQL 8.4, however, is still in beta ("Beta 1" according to their website.) Best of luck, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 18:42:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEBC106566C for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bunchou@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A5D8FC08 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bunchou@googlemail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1337761bwz.43 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:42:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JWtXictr7ahydGBJ7CyifOxTcddCnThXnZFGVomWScc=; b=bjd66PH0bHEDdRUynTjC1teH2S92ASbFbp/2pVJ5ZMZSiH9fgoldaI6Ie5eNjUqvKw 63J735daL9egl1fi8FXr8/j4riU3MTKv7jIuae+Rq1IKZKu/ECavt++zE/c9xjZXgW+n 2aCs0TB2abRhZMswNyDvfkHdHXMtToGDQfyWk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oQSb3UeWKCqWA0jUqhvOcTEHhoGU3DBflCG+OrOns4NAKRyrMI1ns4mN+HGs63Sjxz SIGqtnZNHYU7cnF3fiC9POasMuu3HlKE/6BzqRKykdpc8TbRquwXgie2FWG8L6aSWlv/ Z/VoCYkq0W11cc7YlZJc06PNmy3QiIe0JzYAM= Received: by 10.103.241.5 with SMTP id t5mr387851mur.127.1241028726296; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from centaur.5550h.net ([93.216.239.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm3284673mup.39.2009.04.29.11.12.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:11:57 +0200 From: "=?UTF-8?B?5paH6bOl?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090429201157.4f40214f@centaur.5550h.net> In-Reply-To: <20090429174842.8E786A40EE@maxine.cjones.org> References: <20090429174842.8E786A40EE@maxine.cjones.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: weif@weif.net Subject: Re: Gnucash 2.2.7_2 after upgrade to Firefox 3.0.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:42:50 -0000 On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:48:42 -0600 (MDT) Keith Seyffarth wrote: > > Is anyone else having issues wit Gnucash 2.2.7 crashing when you try > to open an account after portupgrading Firefox in response to security > audit reports from about a week ago? > I have the same issues you're reporting, also tried reinstalling several ports, compiling gnucash from sourceforge, etc, but to no avail. My solution for now is to run gnucash in a qemu-vm. However, I am not really sure that the crash caused by the firefox update, since there were several other ports I upgraded at the same time (especially perl), and since I found no direct dependency for firefox3 in the Makefile... Best regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 18:45:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F6D1065674 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:45:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=gIjIF4tr=A3=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A053A8FC1E for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=gIjIF4tr=A3=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3TIjdCr085832 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:45:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; h=from:subject:message-id:date:x-asarian_host-authenticated-sender:x-asarian_host-trace:x-asarian_host-virus-checked:organization:to:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; c=nofws; s=anon; d=asarian-host.net; b=J9IrfO6joFa+6SUX+lQQOjN0fisjYsP93e8xshXtQQGqvXkoC46QdekWleJOMsktCsJ5FgP/U1k693XhYmNehA/IWCpxLEv62Kjd6dvlgMU5ekmDcKBNuOU6ZqAcum7u8BYamk1l0EnfD1rgViBnsSqCGRGaia/hKHofU9ETicg= From: Mark Message-Id: <200904291845.n3TIjdgf085822@asarian-host.net> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:45:39 GMT X-ASARIAN_HOST-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-ASARIAN_HOST-Trace: vpavUfdsBJOb9Lzpc8qLE03wk2hx70jMjxWV1mSwbvKqtLwtjYDBs7dxX0Av1Hkg X-ASARIAN_HOST-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-ASARIAN_HOST-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint X-ASARIAN_HOST-Virus-Checked: Scanned by ClamAV on asarian-host.net Organization: Asarian-host To: References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: PostgreSQL 8.3.7 builds incomplete X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:45:44 -0000 From: Andrew Gould [mailto:andrewlylegould@gmail.com] Sent: woensdag 29 april 2009 20:41 To: Mark Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 8.3.7 builds incomplete > You're message initially references an incomplete build of > PostgreSQL 8.3.7; but ends asking about PostgreSQL 8.4. > Which are you trying to build? > > I would expect version 8.3.* to build normally. If I go to the /usr/ports/databases/postgresql84-server/ directory, it actually downloads and builds a 8.3.7 version; so the name version difference is not my fault. - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 18:53:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FD8106566B for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036CF8FC12 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1343674bwz.43 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:53:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ijDH/rAsoLJ9fv2rTO6j0aG+yqLnpMIIoqLHdZzD7nU=; b=mQe8S2ij5H34sNBmzVCyoaCxenGn/ym8knDyExHx6t9VYv2UL0ZxnIgjgHA9wm4eQp +e2XXqvWGszGFy+PzzChcnTPdAK2EBvzjNDI4UA7j6ijibCg0vuZbE9Adv0nFrLp15Tv hH6dasgJaXCGeFbx3xBpdlsFk85ienHjIOdXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Y+7nuUGCY0UNx0gPrxfp0bp9Safwqvo34WuwemeUi1DRbTORTayQTUAetDcpGPgRNS B51UUV4CnBgqkCZu+hPJ15KCBZoyR01lHmljV+tvzaFtDTfwEN7lKW5XkKJokw7C7OjE r1V2Ukx3qZh1ffUFUAKLJ1LP/4KVanES8Uwuc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.115.193 with SMTP id j1mr392354faq.98.1241031215645; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:53:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200904291845.n3TIjdgf085822@asarian-host.net> References: <200904291845.n3TIjdgf085822@asarian-host.net> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:53:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Mark Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 8.3.7 builds incomplete X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:53:37 -0000 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Mark wrote: > From: Andrew Gould [mailto:andrewlylegould@gmail.com] > Sent: woensdag 29 april 2009 20:41 > To: Mark > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 8.3.7 builds incomplete > > > You're message initially references an incomplete build of > > > PostgreSQL 8.3.7; but ends asking about PostgreSQL 8.4. > > > Which are you trying to build? > > > > > > I would expect version 8.3.* to build normally. > > If I go to the /usr/ports/databases/postgresql84-server/ directory, it > > actually downloads and builds a 8.3.7 version; so the name version > > difference is not my fault. a rare case when accuracy causes confusion ;-) > > - Mark > > I would suggest that you deinstall or pkg_delete it. Then try configuring and installing from: /usr/ports/databases/postgresql83-server/ Let us know if you still have problems. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 19:00:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACFC106564A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@freemail.gr) Received: from smtp.freemail.gr (smtp.freemail.gr [81.171.104.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894F78FC1B for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@freemail.gr) Received: from [169.254.0.4] (ipa59.85.91.tellas.gr [91.140.85.59]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.freemail.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F1B3381DE; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:44:03 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <49F89FE1.6070807@freemail.gr> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:43:45 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastiaan van Erk , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List References: <49F81FF2.3040302@sebster.com> <1240999037.2645.3.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <49F8269E.2010201@sebster.com> In-Reply-To: <49F8269E.2010201@sebster.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: CARP & bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:00:43 -0000 Sebastiaan van Erk wrote: > Hi, > > Julien Cigar wrote: >> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 11:37 +0200, Sebastiaan van Erk wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have a bridged OpenVPN setup where the OpenVPN tap0 driver is >>> bridged (via bridge0) to the physical em1 interface, which has a VIP >>> via a carp1 interface: >>> >>> em1: flags=8943 >>> metric 0 mtu 1500 >>> options=98 >>> ether 00:0c:29:61:2a:55 >>> inet 10.0.80.77 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.80.255 >>> media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) >>> status: active >>> bridge0: flags=8843 metric 0 >>> mtu 1500 >>> ether 9a:6a:9f:b2:65:da >>> id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 >>> maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 >>> root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 >>> member: tap0 flags=143 >>> ifmaxaddr 0 port 11 priority 128 path cost 2000000 >>> member: em1 flags=143 >>> ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 20000 >>> tap0: flags=8943 >>> metric 0 mtu 1500 >>> ether 00:bd:48:03:00:00 >>> Opened by PID 24616 >>> carp1: flags=49 metric 0 mtu 1500 >>> inet 10.0.80.74 netmask 0xffffff00 >>> carp: MASTER vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 0 >>> >>> >>> The problem I have is that when I ping the VIP from a VPN client (on >>> tap0), the server receives arp requests for the VIP on tap0, but it >>> does not respond to them: >>> >>> # tcpdump -i tap0 -ln >>> 11:29:13.637048 arp who-has 10.0.80.74 tell 10.0.80.6 >>> >>> Is there any way to get the server to respond to arp requests on tap0 >>> for the VIP? >>> >> >> Maybe you've to do ARP Proxy on one side ? Try to add an ARP entry in >> the ARP table with arp (arp -s 1.2.3.4 MAC foo) .. > > Thanks for the suggestion. > > Ok, static arp works: that is, if I take the carp1 mac address and add > it to the arp table using: > > arp -s 10.0.80.74 00:00:5e:00:01:02 pub > > The ping starts to work. I'm still a bit confused why I have to do this > though, because I can ping the non-shared IP 10.0.80.77 from the VPN > client (via tap0) without any static arp, and I can ping the shared VIP > (10.0.80.74) from clients on the physical network (em1) as well without > any static arp. It's only when the ping it has to cross the bridge that > it's an issue. Does it make any difference if you set the IP address on the bridge0 iface and not on the physical one? I recall that the recommended setup is to use IP addresses on the bridge interface and leave the members of the bridge IPless. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 19:28:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F379B106566B for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:28:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3744E8FC20 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3TJVwlj001810; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:31:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: (from ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3TJVwGi001809; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:31:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: Pieter Donche In-Reply-To: References: <1240860015.1569.43.camel@pukruppa.net> <1240939500.1626.5.camel@pukruppa.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:31:57 +0200 Message-Id: <1241033518.1580.6.camel@pukruppa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: acroread run problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:28:58 -0000 Am Mittwoch, den 29.04.2009, 10:02 +0200 schrieb Pieter Donche: > I delete acroread9 (pkg_delete acroread9-9.1.0_2) and installed > # cd /usr/ports/print/acroread8 > # make install clean > > but I get the same errors... > waht could be wrong and how to remedy? > If you need acroread, subscribe to freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org: that would be the place where the linux-emu-guys hang out. If you need a pdf viewer there are alternatives like xpdf or evince (for gnome) and I forgot the name of KDE's pdf-viewer. Sorry I can't help out here. Uli. > On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: > > > I am very sorry: > > > > I mixed up the acroread versions: you won't be able to run acroread9 > > stably on FreeBSD 7.x . > > You will have to wait for FreeBSD 8 . Until then you have to use > > acroread8 :-( > > > > Greetings > > > > Uli. > > > > > > > > Am Dienstag, den 28.04.2009, 07:44 +0200 schrieb Pieter Donche: > >> Hi, > >> > >> yes I do have in my /etc/rc.conf > >> linux_enable="YES" > >> > >>> 2) Do you get > >>> # df > >>> [...] > >>> linprocfs 4 4 0 100% /usr/compat/linux/proc > >> No, this I do not have, but I wonder what that is ... > >> > >> I find nothing about linprocfs in > >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html > >> > >> I also checked (from that book chapter 10.2) > >> # kldstat > >> Id Refs Address Size Name > >> 1 7 0xffffffff80100000 ac7708 kernel > >> 2 1 0xffffffffb08e0000 18aea linux.ko > >> 3 1 0xffffffffb09cb000 496 star_saver.ko > >> > >> Also, I have a another PC with FreeBSD7 (i386) with Acrobat Reader 7.0 > >> (/usr/local/bin/acroread) which works and there I do not not have > >> a "linprocfs ..." in a df output... > >> > >> > >> On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: > >> > >>> Am Montag, den 27.04.2009, 11:16 +0200 schrieb Pieter Donche: > >>>> FreeBSD7/amd64 with linux_base-fc-4_14 Base set of packages needed > >>>> in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) > >>>> I installed acroread9-9.1.0_2 (no errors) > >>>> # cd /usr/ports/print/acroread9 > >>>> # make install clean > >>>> OK. > >>>> > >>>> but at > >>>> $ acroread & > >>>> I get: > >>>> > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders': No such file or directory > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Image type 'xpm' is not supported > >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >>>> (acroread:67581): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed > >>>> > >>>> (acroread:67581): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules > >>>> were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means > >>>> there was an error in the creation of: > >>>> '/etc/pango/pango.modules' > >>>> You may be able to recreate this file by running pango-querymodules. > >>>> (acroread:67581): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_engine_shape_shape: assertion `PANGO_IS_FONT (font)' failed > >>>> Pango-ERROR **: file shape.c: line 75 (pango_shape): assertion failed: (glyphs->num_glyphs > 0) > >>>> aborting... > >>>> [1]+ Exit 1 acroread > >>>> > >>>> I do have: > >>>> /usr/compat/linux/etc/pango > >>>> drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 24 09:51 i686-redhat-linux-gnu > >>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 11446 Apr 24 09:50 pangox.aliases > >>>> > >>> Just to check the prerequisites: > >>> 1) Do you have > >>> linux_enable="YES" > >>> in your /etc/rc.conf > >>> 2) Do you get > >>> # df > >>> [...] > >>> linprocfs 4 4 0 100% /usr/compat/linux/proc > >>> > >>> (If not do have a look at > >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html ) > >>> > >>> Greetings > >>> > >>> Uli. > >>> > >>>> What's wrong and how to remedy ? > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 19:30:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190151065679 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9238FC0C for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-27-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.27.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570643D2A1; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:30:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3TJUN1j001422; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:30:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:30:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chuck Robey Message-Id: <20090429213023.3def9c37.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49F89E2F.2040806@telenix.org> References: <49F89E2F.2040806@telenix.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: filesystem compatibility between FreeBSD and OpenBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:30:26 -0000 On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:36:31 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > Is there ANY filesystem that would be a good bet, so that I could transfer stuff > to & from FreeBSD to OpenBSD? Besides (obviously) UFS? Yes, there is, and it even isn't a file system. It's tar. You can easily create a tar archive and transfer it from device to device, maybe using a "transfer hard disk". I know this sounds stupid, but it works. The disk just needs to be formatted, it can be a hard disk, an optical disc, even an USB thumb drive, or a floppy disk. Doesn't matter. Just format it. Then: % tar cvf /dev/ on the source OS. On the target OS, simply run this command: % tar xvf /dev/ I could employ this method successfully to transfer data between different UNIXens and Linusi. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 19:34:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7A1106566B for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:34:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcdowse@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18D888FC08 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcdowse@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Apr 2009 19:34:03 -0000 Received: from p54AA53C1.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO ac1dc0de) [84.170.83.193] by mail.gmx.net (mp034) with SMTP; 29 Apr 2009 21:34:03 +0200 X-Authenticated: #30106961 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19mVBlHxhtm5B4xLEZswndDS+LuLOUAnTT+qy8u/K nVQ3hRBVXlG2M6 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:34:02 +0200 From: "Daniel C. Dowse" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090429213402.f5271c10.dcdowse@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <49F89E2F.2040806@telenix.org> References: <49F89E2F.2040806@telenix.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.5600000000000001 Subject: Re: filesystem compatibility between FreeBSD and OpenBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:34:06 -0000 On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:36:31 -0400 Chuck Robey wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I just put a OpenBSD partition on a EIDE disk I had laying around. I'd had some > advice (apparently bad) that the OpenBSD UFS filesystem could provide a > filesystem that I could access from FreeBSD ... least, just now when I tried to > mount either of the two filesystems I just created on FreeBSD, FreeBSD seems to > recognize the disklabel just fine (it sees, in /dev, both ad1s1d and ad1s1e), > but FreeBSD can't seem to mount either one. > > Is there ANY filesystem that would be a good bet, so that I could transfer stuff > to & from FreeBSD to OpenBSD? Besides (obviously) UFS? > > Thanks Hi Chuck, please tell us what exactly the output of mount is, mount (8) on FreeBSD 7.1 tells me that UFS is the default filesystem to mount. best regards Daniel Dowse -- The only reality is virtual! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 19:35:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7351065686 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy2.bredband.net (proxy2.bredband.net [195.54.101.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4EEB8FC19 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from ironport.bredband.com (195.54.101.120) by proxy2.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 49F59CBD000F4C00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:35:07 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkQGAIdI+ElV4jp1PGdsb2JhbACBUItsiSIBAQEBuWuDdQU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,267,1238968800"; d="scan'208";a="510928258" Received: from c-753ae255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.58.117]) by ironport1.bredband.com with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2009 21:35:06 +0200 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3TJZ5I5075233 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:35:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <49F8ABE9.4060505@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:35:05 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090412) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Free BSD Questions list References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> <49F5F459.9000403@ibctech.ca> <49F5FBBF.6060207@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <49F5FBBF.6060207@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:35:09 -0000 > net-snmp has no problems providing 64-bit counters (interface and > disk). You must build it with -DWITH_MFD_REWRITES (passes > --with-mfd-rewrites to ./configure). I do not know why this is not the > default. It works just fine. I also have a PR open to make this define > a ports 'make config' option (therefore a persistent setting), but the > maintainer has ignored this. > This post caught my attention because I've had a 64 bit -> 32 bit truncation error in my SNMP logs since I installed net-snmp on my AMD64 a year ago. I was unable to figure out how to add -DWITH_MFD_REWRITES to make so I ended up editing the Makefile and added --enable-mfd-rewrites (the compile told me --with-mfd-rewrites had been replace by --enable-mfd-rewrites). My error messages now seems to have disappeared so I'm extremely happy. I later found the following info in NEWS: Solaris, FreeBSD, OpenBSD: - Experimental support for 64bit interface counters (ifXTable). Enable via '--with-mib-modules=if-mib --enable-mfd-rewrites'. So I have two questions: 1) Is --with-mib-modules=if-mib already covered in the Makefile? I can see the parameter but it refers to a variable I don't know the contents of. The variable seems to refer to the build option NET_SNMP_MIB_MODULES which is mentioned at the beginning of the compile process but I don't know how to use it or its initial value. 2) Is there anyway to enable these two options during make without editing the Makefile? Regards Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 19:51:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A8E106564A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:51:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D948FC08 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:51:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n3TJpSEW035403; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:51:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n3TJpSru035402; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:51:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:51:28 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi Message-ID: <20090429195128.GA35383@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> <49F4A3D8.3090106@gothic-chat.de> <200904272033.47390.beni@brinckman.info> <20090427211005.GA26754@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <49F6482C.2050302@gothic-chat.de> <1241009760.6993.33.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1241009760.6993.33.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:51:57 -0000 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 09:56:00AM -0300, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > hello.... > > Well, after all that said, I would like to post my > modest oppinion based in experience from the market.. > > 1) The people who use FreeBSD, or other OS, (the end user) > will never install the OS, the person will turn on the machine > and expects an graphical interface appears in the secreen. > > 2) the Interface should be as simple as possible, but powerfull > enought to fullfill their needs, that is text, email, browsing, > some banking, multimedia (this must be powerfulll...), chatting. > some dvd authoriting, P2P. should access WIFI networks easy too I don't think you understand how FreeBSD is used in most circumstances. As a server, these things would mostly be quite undesirable and an annoyance to have to remove - more of an annoyance than installing then from ports. ////jerry > > 3) the "computer" (computer is the term used by the USER) should > NEVER break, stop working.... That is: the computer (and the Operating > system) should act as the TV set... (remember those old times when the TV set > used to break???) you turn it on, and it works... > > 4) For those who install the OS in the computer, (some 1 in 10.000) people.... > should make it fast and dirty.... I make an installer that install FBSD in 10 minutes > with all the gnome, office, multimedia, with only one of the keyboard... > using ZFS, the system never breaks, is ready to use in 20 seconds... FBSD is installed > in more than 1000 machines running in gas stations... here... > > 5) A beautifull installer is good for the newspaper that publishes a "review" of > the Operating system (they must publish something to "sell" to ...save their job..), > Have you ever heard about a "Leopard" installer??? do you know someone who reinstalled "Leopard"?????? > > 6) I also think that there must be an "fast and dirty" FBSD install. in the distribution > a CD (or DVD) that you put in the machine, it asks where to install and a prompt choosing YES or NO... > the installer formats the disk(partition), do a tar of the FBSD image, with an login of "admin" prompts for > a password, and dumps the os image in the disk using journal or ZFS... > (90% of the machines I installed FBSD have 1GB of memory, 80GB of HD and HDA sound, > INTEL,ATI,VIA graphics board... only 4 brands of NIC). > > 7) I showed FBSD to an "expert" windows guy, and he think it is far more easy to install than > the XP he was using.... besides, it is LEGAL!!! > > Thanks for the Attention, > > Sergio > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 20:04:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D24106566B for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:04:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02278FC1D for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIV00A1CP1QLR01@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:04:34 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: Tijl Coosemans References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F85422.20403@videotron.ca> <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org> In-reply-to: <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:04:34 -0000 Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Wednesday 29 April 2009 15:20:34 PJ wrote: >> Cool. Then I can ask some questions regarding all of this. >> >> rc.conf: (snipped to show the relevant entries) >> font8x16="iso15-8x16" >> font8x14="iso15-8x14" >> font8x8="iso15-8x8" >> allscreens_flags="VGA_80x60 cyan" >> rpcbind_enable="YES" >> mountd_flags="-r" >> nfs_client_enable="YES" >> nfs_client_flags="-n 4" >> samba_enable="YES" >> cupsd_enable="YES" >> apache22_enable="YES" >> postgresql_enable="YES" >> mysql_enable="YES" >> webmin_enable="YES" >> #keymap=fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd >> >> Question: >> 1. the font entries? The /usr/share/syscons/fonts/ entry has suffixes >> of .fnt - ??? > > Your font and keymap settings are ok. The extensions can be omitted. > See the EXAMPLES sections in vidcontrol(1) and kbdcontrol(1). > >> 2. the keymap is commented out because, although it gives me the >> fr_CA keyboard, it also uses French messages which are a bit tortured >> (French courtly affectations in the language are quaint but also make >> for long and convoluted terminology - notice that a text translated >> to French is always longer). K.I.S.S. > > Keyboard settings shouldn't affect message localisation. Do you set > the environment variable LANG in ~/.login_conf or in a shell startup > script (.profile or .cshrc or other depending on the shell)? If so, > set it to en_CA.ISO8859-15 or something. From q5 below I think you've > currently set it to fr_CA.utf-8. > >> xorg.conf: (snip for relevant) >> Section "ServerLayout" >> Identifier "X.org Configured" >> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" >> EndSection >> >> Section "Files" >> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" >> EndSection >> >> Section "Module" >> Load "extmod" >> Load "record" >> Load "dbe" >> Load "glx" >> Load "GLcore" >> Load "xtrap" >> Load "dri" >> Load "freetype" >> EndSection >> >> Section "InputDevice" >> Identifier "Keyboard0" >> Driver "kbd" >> Option "XkbModel" "pc104" > > This might have to be pc105, but it probably doesn't matter. > >> Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" > > Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY > If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be set > to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or > "ca(fr)". This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which is rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get the accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's just a pita. > >> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle" > > If you don't need layout switching just delete this. I guess I wasn't clear. Toggling was meant to mean switching back and forth; switching - just once. I would like to use switching but it seems to only work one way. Can't switch back. rtAlt switches from us to the ca (which oddly seems to mean French, but nothing to do with Canadian or French Canadian. Only fluxbox brings it back and then rtAlt no longer works. Weird. Any idea where the documentation is for this? The man page is rather foggy and has no mention of XkbOptions or XkbLayout or anything about "grp:toggle" > >> EndSection >> >> Questions: >> 3. This setup enables switching from the default us to what appears >> to be the French keyboard. The fr_CA has the accented characters >> assigned to normal keys while keeping most of the English keys >> normal; the French kbd needs two keypresses to get the accents. >> Tiresome, not so say dumb. > > The French have an azerty layout with accented letters also directly > available. > >> 4. The toggle does not toggle; pressing right_Alt switches to fr but >> another rtAlt press does nothing. And other Alt combinations don't do >> anything except freeze the kbd and xterm has to be closed and >> thereafter the fr is not accessible without a reboot or one must use >> fluxbox menu to switch the keyboard. How to get the fr_CA instad of >> the fr? > > I don't know anything about toggling. > >> 5. Upon closing xorg, there are these messages: >> Failed to open file >> (/usr/local/share/fluxbox/nls/fr_CA.utf-8/fluxbox.cat)... (twice) >> Checking Google & fluxbox, it appears this file does not exist. Fluxbox >> simply has not included it in their distribution. >> Mayba Blackbox has it; I'll have to check. > > Probably harmless. It's just for message localisation. It should fall > back on English. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 20:18:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B7C106564A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp114.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp114.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11F68FC14 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4013E44C0EA; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:18:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id DDAF544C0AC; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:18:49 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:18:45 -0400 From: Tom Worster To: Adam Vandemore , FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Running Apache with as few modules as possible Thread-Index: AcnJB7JLDt8ufvYJzU63RpDnytmulQ== In-Reply-To: <49F786F6.8000405@gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Running Apache with as few modules as possible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:18:52 -0000 On 4/28/09 6:45 PM, "Adam Vandemore" wrote: >> OK, here we go: >> With Apache running on the development machine, modules commented as >> in my first post -- >> CPU: 0.8% user, 0.0% nice, 0.4% system, 0.8% interrupt, 98.1% idle >> Mem: 27M Active, 139M Inact, 64M Wired, 11M Cache, 34M Buf, 648K Free >> Swap: 512M Total, 60K Used, 512M Free >> >> Apache running on the same machine without any modules commented >> except mod_ssl -- >> CPU: 0.8% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.4% interrupt, 98.1% idle >> Mem: 27M Active, 134M Inact, 64M Wired, 13M Cache, 34M Buf, 3584K Free >> Swap: 512M Total, 60K Used, 512M Free >> >> I just ran 'top' after starting httpd to get these figures, maybe I >> should have done something different? >> 'bout the only thing that makes sense to me is I have more Free Memory >> when commenting all those modules. >> What is the list's opinion on this? >> > You should probably use pmap for a more accurate comparison. you may > also want to set CFLAGS= -Os for size considerations(CPUTYPE as well), > and remove unnecessary modules from kernel if you haven't done so already. agreed. top lines of top are too imprecise to really tell. but so far as the data goes, this is consistent with my findings, i.e. disabling mods in the apache runtime config file doesn't save enough to justify the effort. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 20:56:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70C31065672 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:56:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B448FC13 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090429205610.DFJH3344.mta21.charter.net@imp11> for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:56:10 -0400 Received: from larry.local ([24.176.106.117]) by imp11 with charter.net id lYw91b00N2Y01io05YwAxM; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:56:10 -0400 Message-Id: <8F3778C3-F0E3-482D-87B6-D6AC5A00A5E8@charter.net> From: Charles Howse To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <20090429195128.GA35383@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:56:09 -0500 References: <20090426194410.c00aaf73.freebsd@edvax.de> <49F4A3D8.3090106@gothic-chat.de> <200904272033.47390.beni@brinckman.info> <20090427211005.GA26754@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <49F6482C.2050302@gothic-chat.de> <1241009760.6993.33.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <20090429195128.GA35383@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: Subject: Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:56:21 -0000 On Apr 29, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 09:56:00AM -0300, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi > wrote: > >> hello.... >> >> Well, after all that said, I would like to post my >> modest oppinion based in experience from the market.. >> >> 1) The people who use FreeBSD, or other OS, (the end user) >> will never install the OS, the person will turn on the machine >> and expects an graphical interface appears in the secreen. I'm getting into this late, but I have installed FreeBSD many times, both as a desktop system and as a server. >> 3) the "computer" (computer is the term used by the USER) should >> NEVER break, stop working.... That is: the computer (and the >> Operating >> system) should act as the TV set... (remember those old times when >> the TV set >> used to break???) you turn it on, and it works... All "computers" work...until someone sits down at the keyboard. >> >> 5) A beautifull installer is good for the newspaper that publishes >> a "review" of >> the Operating system (they must publish something to "sell" >> to ...save their job..), >> Have you ever heard about a "Leopard" installer??? do you know >> someone who reinstalled "Leopard"?????? Ummm...you're talking to someone who has installed Panther, Tiger and Leopard, more than once. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 20:59:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFDA1065670 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:59:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2918FC14 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:59:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090429205920.CYPO22327.mta11.charter.net@imp09> for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:59:20 -0400 Received: from larry.local ([24.176.106.117]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id lYzL1b0092Y01io05YzLF1; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:59:20 -0400 Message-Id: <2382B6A6-0ACF-4558-A77A-806E01425A2B@charter.net> From: Charles Howse To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:59:19 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: Running Apache with as few modules as possible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:59:34 -0000 On Apr 29, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Tom Worster wrote: > On 4/28/09 6:45 PM, "Adam Vandemore" wrote: > >>> OK, here we go: >>> With Apache running on the development machine, modules commented as >>> in my first post -- >>> CPU: 0.8% user, 0.0% nice, 0.4% system, 0.8% interrupt, 98.1% >>> idle >>> Mem: 27M Active, 139M Inact, 64M Wired, 11M Cache, 34M Buf, 648K >>> Free >>> Swap: 512M Total, 60K Used, 512M Free >>> >>> Apache running on the same machine without any modules commented >>> except mod_ssl -- >>> CPU: 0.8% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.4% interrupt, 98.1% >>> idle >>> Mem: 27M Active, 134M Inact, 64M Wired, 13M Cache, 34M Buf, 3584K >>> Free >>> Swap: 512M Total, 60K Used, 512M Free >>> >>> I just ran 'top' after starting httpd to get these figures, maybe I >>> should have done something different? >>> 'bout the only thing that makes sense to me is I have more Free >>> Memory >>> when commenting all those modules. >>> What is the list's opinion on this? >>> >> You should probably use pmap for a more accurate comparison. you may >> also want to set CFLAGS= -Os for size considerations(CPUTYPE as >> well), >> and remove unnecessary modules from kernel if you haven't done so >> already. > > agreed. top lines of top are too imprecise to really tell. but so > far as > the data goes, this is consistent with my findings, i.e. disabling > mods in > the apache runtime config file doesn't save enough to justify the > effort. I recall Bill Gates saying, "640k is enough for anybody." I agree, it's not much of a savings, and there's always the possibility that the webmaster may add something later that needs a module that's commented, and run around in circles before she/he realizes it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 21:32:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD65106566C for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:32:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=gIjIF4tr=A3=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F18F8FC19 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=gIjIF4tr=A3=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3TLWbQN090895 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:32:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; h=from:subject:message-id:date:x-asarian_host-authenticated-sender:x-asarian_host-trace:x-asarian_host-virus-checked:organization:to:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; c=nofws; s=anon; d=asarian-host.net; b=qj7skNgHaakAghZQUOsCclVkbKDzp4AXFKcDV0M9T8XGDynd9pxt0C8GIrG+FZAz/Jqygx4wxLG7rNhRkhCw9YnY7CCQp5Nodb5lWHIfvDlGGTf6ZG34hQY0gJVljg9ko3I2uJkxL8wJZ1qq8hnUNQF7RYDfG7yv0jcsxESlD2I= From: Mark Message-Id: <200904292132.n3TLWaYo090885@asarian-host.net> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:32:37 GMT X-ASARIAN_HOST-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-ASARIAN_HOST-Trace: LlID/OScreLev4pfe9ewaLR9dtdFwLbi1QslPwZWE9k4ginOcfT5dwOQJt7OAj+R X-ASARIAN_HOST-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-ASARIAN_HOST-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint X-ASARIAN_HOST-Virus-Checked: Scanned by ClamAV on asarian-host.net Organization: Asarian-host To: References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: PostgreSQL 8.3.7 builds incomplete X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:32:41 -0000 From: Andrew Gould [mailto:andrewlylegould@gmail.com] Sent: woensdag 29 april 2009 20:54 To: Mark Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 8.3.7 builds incomplete On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Mark wrote: From: Andrew Gould [mailto:andrewlylegould@gmail.com] Sent: woensdag 29 april 2009 20:41 To: Mark Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 8.3.7 builds incomplete > > If I go to the /usr/ports/databases/postgresql84-server/ > > directory, it actually downloads and builds a 8.3.7 version; > > so the name version difference is not my fault. > > a rare case when accuracy causes confusion ;-) > > I would suggest that you deinstall or pkg_delete it. > Then try configuring and installing from: > /usr/ports/databases/postgresql83-server/ > > Let us know if you still have problems. Wow, you're right. That actually DOES build normally! :) Got files in the designated include dir, and it built a working pg_config. I should have looked better, instead of just picking the highest-version server. Still, makes you wonder, if the postgresql84-server port is so incredibly broken, why even include it? (Could also be it just purposely omits writing files in the include dir and making the pg_config, precisely because it's beta). At any rate, it's all working now. Thanks! - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 21:41:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80216106566C for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@hardman.name) Received: from flexo.grapevine.net.au (flexo.grapevine.net.au [203.129.32.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159998FC0C for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@hardman.name) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flexo.grapevine.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C609D583A4F for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:41:44 +1000 (EST) Received: from flexo.grapevine.net.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (flexo.grapevine.net.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 78SSrB+6pzXJ for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:41:44 +1000 (EST) Received: from loc.alh.ost (ppp-39.56.129.203.grapevine.net.au [203.129.56.39]) by flexo.grapevine.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D1F583A4A for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:41:44 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:41:44 +1000 From: Dave Hardman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090429214144.GA26009@loc.alh.ost> References: <20090429174842.8E786A40EE@maxine.cjones.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090429174842.8E786A40EE@maxine.cjones.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: Gnucash 2.2.7_2 after upgrade to Firefox 3.0.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:41:47 -0000 --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:48:42AM -0600, Keith Seyffarth wrote: > > Is anyone else having issues wit Gnucash 2.2.7 crashing when you try > to open an account after portupgrading Firefox in response to security > audit reports from about a week ago? [...] > Ideas? Thoughts? Suggestions? > > Keith S. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I had the same problem; the attached patch (supplied by Sebastian Held from gnucash.org) fixed the problem. Dave Hardman. --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/x-diff; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="gnucash-2.2.7-crash.patch" Index: /home/sebastian/src/gnucash-2.2/src/register/register-gnome/gnucash-style.c =================================================================== --- /home/sebastian/src/gnucash-2.2/src/register/register-gnome/gnucash-style.c (.../trunk/src/register/register-gnome/gnucash-style.c) (Revision 13692) +++ /home/sebastian/src/gnucash-2.2/src/register/register-gnome/gnucash-style.c (.../branches/2.2/src/register/register-gnome/gnucash-style.c) (Revision 18054) @@ -48,7 +48,16 @@ return &key; } +static gpointer +style_create_key (SheetBlockStyle *style) +{ + static gint key; + key = style->cursor->num_rows; + + return g_memdup(&key, sizeof(key)); +} + static void cell_dimensions_construct (gpointer _cd, gpointer user_data) { @@ -103,7 +112,7 @@ if (!dimensions) { dimensions = style_dimensions_new (style); g_hash_table_insert (sheet->dimensions_hash_table, - style_get_key (style), dimensions); + style_create_key (style), dimensions); } dimensions->refcount++; --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 21:52:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52055106566C for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:52:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f162.google.com (mail-fx0-f162.google.com [209.85.220.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCCD8FC1D for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:52:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so1457314fxm.43 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:52:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Cm6N4KAIiAUxOeWbbXLEiJjlgLi8xZLvmHPXAeKst+A=; b=RGbB0jILNE/hLAOd6hvEQuzhxdAsVKRw/Od2wCLfrXYlS9Q21iKcLzFT4Su+L9spu8 fsnpUQXV9UbmNw8NlSyyNFIAcvq9q2mV9ESQYUoF2k/CbE7qRhpazbey02B1P79Iuo/A XIKa4PtE7uqz1X1bsYyTcrpGTDzm63cdcdV7c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=XSB2gjn8MbHQEVg1Vh43gxqbTj3sQcbPZAB+4hUl0vBu9mzmCyUSl+9a6Sq32BSCaT oZHLci9NUtpc75zcN4CEKlptZVEZx7QkB/F+dAk0fH3HuD5pJLnOlEX0s6kT07cg1UCr 7ZnzPC/f7Lgybe+t8w479UVVLAX+wmyY3vu/Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.105.195 with SMTP id u3mr492840fao.13.1241041929767; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:52:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200904292132.n3TLWaYo090885@asarian-host.net> References: <200904292132.n3TLWaYo090885@asarian-host.net> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:52:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Mark Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 8.3.7 builds incomplete X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:52:11 -0000 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Mark wrote: > From: Andrew Gould [mailto:andrewlylegould@gmail.com] > Sent: woensdag 29 april 2009 20:54 > To: Mark > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 8.3.7 builds incomplete > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Mark wrote: > > From: Andrew Gould [mailto:andrewlylegould@gmail.com] > Sent: woensdag 29 april 2009 20:41 > To: Mark > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: PostgreSQL 8.3.7 builds incomplete > > > > If I go to the /usr/ports/databases/postgresql84-server/ > > > directory, it actually downloads and builds a 8.3.7 version; > > > so the name version difference is not my fault. > > > > a rare case when accuracy causes confusion ;-) > > > > I would suggest that you deinstall or pkg_delete it. > > Then try configuring and installing from: > > /usr/ports/databases/postgresql83-server/ > > > > Let us know if you still have problems. > > Wow, you're right. That actually DOES build normally! :) Got files in the > designated include dir, and it built a working pg_config. > I should have looked better, instead of just picking the highest-version > server. Still, makes you wonder, if the postgresql84-server port is so > incredibly broken, why even include it? (Could also be it just purposely > omits writing files in the include dir and making the pg_config, precisely > because it's beta). >From your first message, it looks like the 8.4 server itself runs fine. The 8.4 port is probably there for beta testing purposes since there are no FreeBSD binary packages on the PostgreSQL site. > > At any rate, it's all working now. Thanks! > > > - Mark > Best of luck, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 21:53:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7BB10656F8 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:53:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebster@sebster.com) Received: from mail.sebster.com (mail.sebster.com [193.46.80.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C546E8FC0A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebster@sebster.com) Received: (qmail 25738 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2009 21:53:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.1.6?) (sebster@85.147.225.232) by 10.0.98.3 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2009 21:53:27 -0000 Message-ID: <49F8CC51.2030203@sebster.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:53:21 +0200 From: Sebastiaan van Erk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <49F81FF2.3040302@sebster.com> <1240999037.2645.3.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <49F8269E.2010201@sebster.com> <49F89FE1.6070807@freemail.gr> In-Reply-To: <49F89FE1.6070807@freemail.gr> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010906060308020109090009" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: CARP & bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:53:31 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010906060308020109090009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > Sebastiaan van Erk wrote: >> Julien Cigar wrote: >>> >>> Maybe you've to do ARP Proxy on one side ? Try to add an ARP entry in >>> the ARP table with arp (arp -s 1.2.3.4 MAC foo) .. >> >> Thanks for the suggestion. >> >> Ok, static arp works: that is, if I take the carp1 mac address and add >> it to the arp table using: >> >> arp -s 10.0.80.74 00:00:5e:00:01:02 pub >> >> The ping starts to work. I'm still a bit confused why I have to do >> this though, because I can ping the non-shared IP 10.0.80.77 from the >> VPN client (via tap0) without any static arp, and I can ping the >> shared VIP (10.0.80.74) from clients on the physical network (em1) as >> well without any static arp. It's only when the ping it has to cross >> the bridge that it's an issue. > > Does it make any difference if you set the IP address on the bridge0 > iface and not on the physical one? > > I recall that the recommended setup is to use IP addresses on > the bridge interface and leave the members of the bridge IPless. > > Nikos Thanks for the suggestion. 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(jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 29 Apr 2009 22:17:54 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <624F45CA-1083-4DC2-8A98-DFE44B5B6CE8@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: John Almberg Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:17:19 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Is it necessary to generate a new SSL request each year? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:17:24 -0000 When buying a new SSL cert, I've been generating a new request each year... I am just about to buy another and it occurred to me that I'm entering the same info. Do I really need a new request file each year? Or can I just reuse the same one (presuming none of the info has changed.) -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 21:51:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0700B1065670 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lloydon@verizon.net) Received: from smtp103.vzn.mail.re1.yahoo.com (smtp103.vzn.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.103.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B5F88FC14 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lloydon@verizon.net) Received: (qmail 61253 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2009 21:24:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LLOYDON) (lloydon@138.89.66.139 with login) by smtp103.vzn.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2009 21:24:42 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 3aeSYjYVM1kTbljYt7Aay58Zzj6tbcdXzs5O9OdsTNqYMFCK.Vt6CuGNufRLP7LrznfkajAioMiJUDNS1611jNRt2JDj3sTP_ixyX6sxqPU0OaFJqRBtZDf8tNSMrKqeT61kLIhOfz94l_ybsib7Md.MoO4W7w8ixI34Jxe.UpR5Km8xCAknGCypPElL8gd7KhOZbq1EdhNn97fbzyiXWTRpET2INbsZv2V6mfC5Kr4kCG4RYmcJGK_eHcGy4qP47dPrc2usqec9QA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <60C0AA1B58D345F59C6AC5C1A6BB0DC8@LLOYDON> From: "Lloyd Friedman" To: Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:24:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:23:27 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: How to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lloyd Friedman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:51:25 -0000 I have a Microway computer with a PC164LX. How and where can I down load FreeBSD ALPHA version.=20 I know it is no longer supported, but I believe there are older versions = I can down load. If not, then I will have to try to find a Linux that will work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 22:34:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C66106566C for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB788FC0C for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:34:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4472781.home.otenet.gr [94.71.127.189]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3TMYPWC021672; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:34:26 +0300 Message-ID: <49F8D5F1.6080709@otenet.gr> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:34:25 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lloyd Friedman References: <60C0AA1B58D345F59C6AC5C1A6BB0DC8@LLOYDON> In-Reply-To: <60C0AA1B58D345F59C6AC5C1A6BB0DC8@LLOYDON> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:34:28 -0000 Lloyd Friedman wrote: > I have a Microway computer with a PC164LX. > How and where can I down load FreeBSD ALPHA version. > I know it is no longer supported, but I believe there are older versions I can down load. > If not, then I will have to try to find a Linux that will work. > Try the FTP site: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-alpha/6.4/ Better yet, locate a mirror close to you (not all mirrors may have these files): http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 22:51:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D5C1065675 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86998FC0A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so917037yxb.13 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:51:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ACMXYUUZORQbx50WwUMPE6IUxq6rfehuWBWs9t89/BU=; b=OuNYl7AjC9UbKSqWrb43xWWkmu349iQjEu5oIj6hTnzELaCg7nM5hLfKEEEPCPnTPV aTyHN+DwAha5GGkPHdCN1xHYY/iqGsmiLHQAtr9L4qf581BhKdjQxPKZfSrv0t6Bw/Ka L2TCOYtTBr4r2Ti5jnJe10aqHHVwJD/iTQwfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BcX/8GnaPwxL92p+wLaqjZ30O2aV8v4sbl1OJgGRAVeb5RWN3yV+VRuu/+Byoyg2Ce AJXqTOwC6eouoggj+N1rTVby42pwJ1fgkic9mTzfiazZf5AV99fTjuGlE0AsqJ1zIIUn /II/oq2HVRyYlj9keoMPjfd+0Bp2p9xCJcodQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.137.5 with SMTP id p5mr2196363ybn.223.1241044145480; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:29:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <60C0AA1B58D345F59C6AC5C1A6BB0DC8@LLOYDON> References: <60C0AA1B58D345F59C6AC5C1A6BB0DC8@LLOYDON> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:29:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: Lloyd Friedman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:51:25 -0000 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Lloyd Friedman wrote: > I have a Microway computer with a PC164LX. > How and where can I down load FreeBSD ALPHA version. > I know it is no longer supported, but I believe there are older versions I can down load. > If not, then I will have to try to find a Linux that will work. I'm not sure about fBSD issue and if this is kosher, but, if you wanna stay with a BSD (which is okay with me), why not try netBSD, which prides itself on being compatible/supported with "everything" (AFAIK)? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 22:52:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D28FE106564A for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860108FC21 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n3TMq2Np002083 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:52:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3TMq2fG056035 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:52:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3TMq0Lw056034; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:52:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:51:59 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: John Almberg Message-ID: <20090429225158.GC91578@dan.emsphone.com> References: <624F45CA-1083-4DC2-8A98-DFE44B5B6CE8@identry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <624F45CA-1083-4DC2-8A98-DFE44B5B6CE8@identry.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:52:02 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it necessary to generate a new SSL request each year? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:52:05 -0000 In the last episode (Apr 29), John Almberg said: > When buying a new SSL cert, I've been generating a new request each > year... I am just about to buy another and it occurred to me that I'm > entering the same info. Do I really need a new request file each year? > Or can I just reuse the same one (presuming none of the info has changed.) You can reuse the old one. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 29 23:05:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C05106567F for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:05:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC538FC08 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:05:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2009 19:05:52 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id PUH70753; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2009 19:05:51 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18936.56654.494648.286696@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:05:50 -0400 To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: <20090429225158.GC91578@dan.emsphone.com> References: <624F45CA-1083-4DC2-8A98-DFE44B5B6CE8@identry.com> <20090429225158.GC91578@dan.emsphone.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: John Almberg , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is it necessary to generate a new SSL request each year? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:05:54 -0000 Dan Nelson writes: > > When buying a new SSL cert, I've been generating a new > > request each year... I am just about to buy another and it > > occurred to me that I'm entering the same info. Do I really > > need a new request file each year? Or can I just reuse the > > same one (presuming none of the info has changed.) > > You can reuse the old one. I'm not an expert on these, but it was my understanding that certificates carry in internal "expiration date" after which the application may respond as it pleases. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 00:35:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA517106566B for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@avioc.org) Received: from didy.avioc.org (mail.ipv6.avioc.org [IPv6:2001:4978:125:a00a::25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E0D8FC13 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@avioc.org) Received: from localhost (mail.internal.avioc.org [192.168.2.252]) by didy.avioc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5B93BAC37; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:35:34 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.internal.avioc.org Received: from didy.avioc.org ([192.168.2.252]) by localhost (mail.internal.avioc.org [192.168.2.252]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id zrPxZ6np1fCj; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:35:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.2.8] (section-8.internal.avioc.org [192.168.2.8]) by didy.avioc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 83B933BAC16; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:35:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <49F8F255.6080508@avioc.org> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:35:33 -0500 From: Brandon Weisz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090409) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maxim Khitrov References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> <26ddd1750904291049s22eb912dg81a105e5f783f44@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750904291049s22eb912dg81a105e5f783f44@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anton Yuzhaninov Subject: Re: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:35:36 -0000 Maxim Khitrov wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Anton Yuzhaninov wrote: >> On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:28:01 -0400, Maxim Khitrov wrote: >> MK> I'm setting up a firewall and would like to monitor certain system >> MK> parameters like network, cpu, and memory usage. SNMP is an obvious >> MK> choice to do the monitoring and I'm planning to set up rrdtool to >> MK> generate graphs of captured data. The question is what SNMP agent to >> MK> use. I found net-snmp and bsnmpd (which is included in the base >> MK> system). Has anyone here used both implementations, and if so, what >> MK> are the basic differences? >> >> main difference is the set of supported MIBs. >> >> In general net-snmp supports more MIBs than bsnmpd. >> >> E. g. BEGEMOT-PF-MIB supported only by bsnmpd and useful for monitoring pf(4), >> UCD-SNMP-MIB supported only by net-snmp and useful for monitoring CPU load >> (ssCpuRaw* counters). > > Is there any other documentation to bsnmpd besides the one man page? > I'm trying to figure how to configure the daemon (first task is stop > it from listening on *:*), but besides the man page and few comments > in /etc/snmpd.config there is no other information that I can find. > > - Max I cant speak to the documentation, but this seems to limit it to listening on a single address: Example.. # open standard SNMP ports begemotSnmpdPortStatus.192.168.2.254.161 = 1 Regards, Brandon > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 03:08:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E0F106566C for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CFE8FC26 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 21465 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2009 03:08:01 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 30 Apr 2009 03:08:01 -0000 Message-ID: <49F91611.50604@telenix.org> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:08:01 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel C. Dowse" References: <49F89E2F.2040806@telenix.org> <20090429213402.f5271c10.dcdowse@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20090429213402.f5271c10.dcdowse@gmx.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystem compatibility between FreeBSD and OpenBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:08:02 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Daniel C. Dowse wrote: > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:36:31 -0400 > Chuck Robey wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> I just put a OpenBSD partition on a EIDE disk I had laying around. I'd had some >> advice (apparently bad) that the OpenBSD UFS filesystem could provide a >> filesystem that I could access from FreeBSD ... least, just now when I tried to >> mount either of the two filesystems I just created on FreeBSD, FreeBSD seems to >> recognize the disklabel just fine (it sees, in /dev, both ad1s1d and ad1s1e), >> but FreeBSD can't seem to mount either one. >> >> Is there ANY filesystem that would be a good bet, so that I could transfer stuff >> to & from FreeBSD to OpenBSD? Besides (obviously) UFS? >> >> Thanks > > Hi Chuck, > > please tell us what exactly the output of mount is, mount (8) on > FreeBSD 7.1 tells me that UFS is the default filesystem to mount. It just fails with an "Invalid argument", so I think it's not able to recognize the OpenBSD FS. I can't do it the other way around, because I can't (yet) find the OpenBSD driver for my AMCC (3ware) 9650-4 controller (FreeBSD's twa driver). Otherwise, I'm curious if maybe OpenBSD count moount the FreeBSD FS. No longer truly important, because i'm using an extra machine as a waypoint for a transfer. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn5FhEACgkQz62J6PPcoOlikgCfUmLdhYXrsu7/1EE6aZL1mH91 DdkAn0JEGxkyRyBQdOGO9kgEft0mzm8T =kibv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 03:16:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F96106566C for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d_mashenkin@mail.ru) Received: from mx28.mail.ru (mx28.mail.ru [94.100.176.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE9B8FC15 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d_mashenkin@mail.ru) Received: from mx38.mail.ru (mx38.mail.ru [94.100.176.52]) by mx28.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id 33B577C2943 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:50:52 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [81.222.112.18] (port=15127 helo=[193.168.0.123]) by mx38.mail.ru with asmtp id 1LzMML-0002jk-00 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:50:50 +0400 Message-ID: <49F91224.4090708@mail.ru> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:51:16 +0800 From: Mail User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok Cc: Subject: how to install vmware-server on freebsd 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:16:20 -0000 Good day to everybody, I have a problem with installation vmware-server 2 for linux on my freebsd 7.1. i install it from rpm. before it, i installed linux_base_f9, load linux.ko, mount linprocfs. When i run sudo rpm -i --ignoreos --dbpath /lib/var/rpm --root /compat/linux vmware-server.XXXX.rpm i get this: /bin/sh is needed to vmware-server.XXXX.rpm, but there`s /bin/sh and /compat/linux/bin/sh. What does it mean, and what i need to do to resolve this problem? Dmitry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 05:41:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DA9106566B for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dsewnr.buffer@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039358FC0A for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dsewnr.buffer@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1018530ywe.13 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:41:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=wuKZoUNN+uEVUr37/tWhj7qwo9mJ+ztwBunPudRwQ6I=; b=FAGysFh6KMDhDZRF+ys+yz/qVRYNngExnPC7+vlGbXHsrZdPQekqU+mwkqZxA1/byN srA4LRvWcmX+nTvJwl7fJj4V6ZDOU5IvHO2v8ORve0L+muuNquVr29mpZ8TxrEkbArVG HQ32wIq+eYMkTxDq0Dvrs4QdG6AyCrku1/RMw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=X1caakVVU3I819E+vLF1lU4/EXgUZLdGTxBCb4eeQ1nqsxjFUO88/bHZbehwlJml41 7abU4pLL9Nqk0H4ES3ElUQAziFnp/riCWdtPe4aqO5Y+kS8yR4/54bqZFLuF9abo4bgr 4ubXAbiQLuMPhKDRE6T2XVegRoFagTNKiicrw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.11.14 with SMTP id 14mr2472312ank.84.1241070082382; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:41:22 +0800 Message-ID: From: Dsewnr Lu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: "shutdown -p" does not power off X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:41:23 -0000 Hi all: My problem is that I type "shutdown -p now" command, and system hang after uptime show on screen. I must press reset or press power sw 4 sec to poweroff. But "reboot" command works fine for me. I found it caused when hald_enable set to "YES" in rc.conf, if hald_enable set to "NO" everything works fine. hald is required for my desktop environment. Any suggestions ? My kernel version is FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #5 amd64. Thanks, Dsewnr Lu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 05:42:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A481065680 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:42:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E23B8FC1E for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:42:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from sarevok.dnr.servegame.org (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423807E837; Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:42:55 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:42:32 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.2 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.2; i386; ; ) References: <624F45CA-1083-4DC2-8A98-DFE44B5B6CE8@identry.com> <20090429225158.GC91578@dan.emsphone.com> <18936.56654.494648.286696@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <18936.56654.494648.286696@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904300742.32991.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: John Almberg , Robert Huff , Dan Nelson Subject: Re: Is it necessary to generate a new SSL request each year? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:42:57 -0000 On Thursday 30 April 2009 01:05:50 Robert Huff wrote: > Dan Nelson writes: > > > When buying a new SSL cert, I've been generating a new > > > request each year... I am just about to buy another and it > > > occurred to me that I'm entering the same info. Do I really > > > need a new request file each year? Or can I just reuse the > > > same one (presuming none of the info has changed.) > > > > You can reuse the old one. > > I'm not an expert on these, but it was my understanding that > certificates carry in internal "expiration date" after which the > application may respond as it pleases. Yes, but the *request* does not. Also, if using openssl, just set the defaults in /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf to your values, so you can enter through the questions. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 05:46:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EFB1065670 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:46:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (progress.isafeelin.org [84.244.146.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A028FC12 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:46:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772BA130D98; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:46:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.145.154.3]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4F592130D6E; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:46:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from free.isafeelin.org (unknown [192.168.1.15]) by s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF00F8563D; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:46:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49F93B1D.9040001@isafeelin.org> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:46:05 +0200 From: Frederique Rijsdijk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090418) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Whitehouse References: <49F75C20.4050300@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <49F75C20.4050300@onetel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: archive search working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:46:11 -0000 Chris Whitehouse wrote: > I'm not getting any replies when searching the freebsd questions > archives at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ > > That's the page I get to if I google "freebsd questions archives" (and > then a couple of clicks to get to the archives) That is the right page, but it's not working for a while already.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 06:05:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D87D1065670 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:05:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E5C8FC1E for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LzPOj-000Kj0-Rb; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:05:29 +0400 To: PJ References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F85422.20403@videotron.ca> <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:05:40 +0400 In-Reply-To: <49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> (PJ's message of "Wed\, 29 Apr 2009 16\:04\:34 -0400") Message-ID: <69508507@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:05:32 -0000 On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:04:34 -0400 PJ wrote: > Tijl Coosemans wrote: > > On Wednesday 29 April 2009 15:20:34 PJ wrote: > >> Cool. Then I can ask some questions regarding all of this. > >> > >> rc.conf: (snipped to show the relevant entries) > >> font8x16="iso15-8x16" > >> font8x14="iso15-8x14" > >> font8x8="iso15-8x8" > >> allscreens_flags="VGA_80x60 cyan" > >> rpcbind_enable="YES" > >> mountd_flags="-r" > >> nfs_client_enable="YES" > >> nfs_client_flags="-n 4" > >> samba_enable="YES" > >> cupsd_enable="YES" > >> apache22_enable="YES" > >> postgresql_enable="YES" > >> mysql_enable="YES" > >> webmin_enable="YES" > >> #keymap=fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd > >> > >> Question: > >> 1. the font entries? The /usr/share/syscons/fonts/ entry has suffixes > >> of .fnt - ??? > > > > Your font and keymap settings are ok. The extensions can be omitted. > > See the EXAMPLES sections in vidcontrol(1) and kbdcontrol(1). > > > >> 2. the keymap is commented out because, although it gives me the > >> fr_CA keyboard, it also uses French messages which are a bit tortured > >> (French courtly affectations in the language are quaint but also make > >> for long and convoluted terminology - notice that a text translated > >> to French is always longer). K.I.S.S. > > > > Keyboard settings shouldn't affect message localisation. Do you set > > the environment variable LANG in ~/.login_conf or in a shell startup > > script (.profile or .cshrc or other depending on the shell)? If so, > > set it to en_CA.ISO8859-15 or something. From q5 below I think you've > > currently set it to fr_CA.utf-8. No answer. Which locale do you use? > >> xorg.conf: (snip for relevant) > >> Section "ServerLayout" > >> Identifier "X.org Configured" > >> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > >> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > >> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > >> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" Seems that you use new X stuff. X11@ and gnome@ maillist archieves may give you some additional information. > >> EndSection > >> > >> Section "Files" > >> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" Unless I add cyrillic fonts, I'm not able to see cyrillic letters at xterm for my utf-8 locale. > >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" > >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > >> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > >> EndSection > >> > >> Section "Module" > >> Load "extmod" > >> Load "record" > >> Load "dbe" > >> Load "glx" > >> Load "GLcore" > >> Load "xtrap" > >> Load "dri" > >> Load "freetype" > >> EndSection > >> > >> Section "InputDevice" > >> Identifier "Keyboard0" > >> Driver "kbd" > >> Option "XkbModel" "pc104" > > > > This might have to be pc105, but it probably doesn't matter. > > > >> Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" > > > > Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY > > If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be set > > to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or > > "ca(fr)". > This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything > that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which is > rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get the > accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's just a pita. Phil, you didn't say which keyboard do you use and which options you have tried. Anyway, you may look at /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst [1] for options that can be used at xorg.conf for keyboards. And you may be interested in looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log. There are many useful diagnistics at this file. > >> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle" > > > > If you don't need layout switching just delete this. > I guess I wasn't clear. Toggling was meant to mean switching back and > forth; switching - just once. I would like to use switching but it seems > to only work one way. Can't switch back. rtAlt switches from us to the > ca (which oddly seems to mean French, but nothing to do with Canadian or > French Canadian. Only fluxbox brings it back and then rtAlt no longer > works. Weird. > Any idea where the documentation is for this? > The man page is rather foggy and has no mention of XkbOptions or > XkbLayout or anything about "grp:toggle" Looking at [1] should help. HTH & WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 07:06:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B104106564A for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from D.Forsyth@ru.ac.za) Received: from a.mail.ru.ac.za (a.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A53C8FC1C for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from D.Forsyth@ru.ac.za) Received: from iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.249]:55877) by a.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LzQLW-0000Sw-3r for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:06:14 +0200 Received: from iwdf-5.iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.28]) by iwr.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LzQLV-000JFN-W7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:06:14 +0200 From: "DA Forsyth" Organization: IWR To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:06:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49F96A05.1.32BFDEC3@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: a.mail.ru.ac.za (146.231.129.33) Subject: freebsd-update claims a file was changed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: d.forsyth@ru.ac.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:06:16 -0000 Hiya I have 2 almost identicle machines running a minimal install of 7.1 (updated from 7.0 just a few weeks ago). Todays freebsd-update worked just fine on one box, but on the other I get Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.1-RELEASE from update1.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... File changed while FreeBSD Update running: /boot/kernel/kernel repeat ad nauseum. Google has been no help. What to do? -- DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 07:07:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3243C10656CD for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mail.gmx.com (unknown [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F04A8FC14 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Apr 2009 07:07:37 -0000 Received: from ipa30.73.91.tellas.gr (EHLO [169.254.0.4]) [91.140.73.30] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu004) with SMTP; 30 Apr 2009 09:07:37 +0200 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+P9xhhLFKPuysghtkG2tgVHjZK3N/HUUADMPYX9D 3cVo6rSp220FdT Message-ID: <49F94E25.6000900@gmx.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:07:17 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastiaan van Erk References: <49F81FF2.3040302@sebster.com> <1240999037.2645.3.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <49F8269E.2010201@sebster.com> <49F89FE1.6070807@freemail.gr> <49F8CC51.2030203@sebster.com> In-Reply-To: <49F8CC51.2030203@sebster.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.65 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: CARP & bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:07:40 -0000 Sebastiaan van Erk wrote: > > Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it, but unfortunately the carp device > never leaves the INIT state when I put the ip on the bridge. :-( I did > find some similar problem here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=125816 I just noticed that. On -CURRENT carp tells you that's not supported: bridge0: carp is not supported for this interface type OTOH why do you even have to use the VIP from the remote side of the bridge? The only reason I can think of, for doing such a thing, is to get *all* traffic from the remote location through a "single" redundant router, the one with the VIP. Is this the case? Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 07:44:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D451065693 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309E88FC1B for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1LzQwk-000LuH-SU; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:44:42 +0400 To: Mail References: <49F91224.4090708@mail.ru> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:44:42 +0400 In-Reply-To: <49F91224.4090708@mail.ru> (Mail's message of "Thu\, 30 Apr 2009 10\:51\:16 +0800") Message-ID: <12380245@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: how to install vmware-server on freebsd 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:44:44 -0000 On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:51:16 +0800 Mail wrote: > Good day to everybody, > I have a problem with installation vmware-server 2 for linux on my > freebsd 7.1. i install it from rpm. before it, i installed > linux_base_f9, load linux.ko, mount linprocfs. You may have problems with FreeBSD-7.1 and linux_base-f9. Welcome to emulation@ mail list. > When i run sudo rpm -i --ignoreos --dbpath /lib/var/rpm --root We don't use linux rpm database, it's behaviour is undefined, untested and unsupported. > /compat/linux vmware-server.XXXX.rpm i get this: > /bin/sh is needed to vmware-server.XXXX.rpm, > but there`s /bin/sh and /compat/linux/bin/sh. > What does it mean, and what i need to do to resolve this problem? You may do it like this: ----- # cd /compat/linux # rpm2cpio your_rpm_file | cpio -id --quiet ----- You'd better create a port and use it to install/deinstall that rpm file. HTH & WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 09:09:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52131065672 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:09:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@OmniLAN.de) Received: from host.omnilan.net (host.omnilan.net [62.245.232.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF0B8FC14 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:09:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@OmniLAN.de) Received: from titan.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (titan.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de [172.21.1.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by host.omnilan.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3U8uZlW084863 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:56:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@OmniLAN.de) Message-ID: <49F967C2.6040908@OmniLAN.de> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:56:34 +0200 From: Harald Schmalzbauer Organization: OmniLAN User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090425) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig31BA9659E0CF558B5390BEFB" Subject: group credentials cache in X11-session (xfce4, gdm) question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:09:05 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig31BA9659E0CF558B5390BEFB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I'm wondering why and how it comes that after altering /etc/groups `id`=20 doesn't give me the additional group, while `id harry` does. If I quit my X session and relogin it works as expected. Does gdm cache=20 credentials? Hard to find useful documentation for gdm... 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(the xorg.conf problem went away with the upgrade from7.0). I cannot get wireless to work. ath_hal is recognized but no ath device. The wifi is atheros ar5b91on a acer aspire 4730Z laptop. Is ath supposed to work with the ar500 series? Is here another driver? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 10:00:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C811106566C for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from mailrelay004.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay004.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CAD8FC1A for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsFALsT+UlR9NZD/2dsb2JhbACBUM13g38F Received: from 67.214-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.kotnet.org) ([81.244.214.67]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2009 12:00:51 +0200 Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3UA0iS9002285; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:00:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:00:42 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Length: 2611 X-UID: 103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200904301200.44224.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:00:53 -0000 On Wednesday 29 April 2009 22:04:34 PJ wrote: > Tijl Coosemans wrote: >> On Wednesday 29 April 2009 15:20:34 PJ wrote: >>> xorg.conf: (snip for relevant) >>> Section "ServerLayout" >>> Identifier "X.org Configured" >>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" >>> EndSection >>> >>> Section "Files" >>> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" >>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" >>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" >>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" >>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" >>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" >>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" >>> EndSection >>> >>> Section "Module" >>> Load "extmod" >>> Load "record" >>> Load "dbe" >>> Load "glx" >>> Load "GLcore" >>> Load "xtrap" >>> Load "dri" >>> Load "freetype" >>> EndSection >>> >>> Section "InputDevice" >>> Identifier "Keyboard0" >>> Driver "kbd" >>> Option "XkbModel" "pc104" >> >> This might have to be pc105, but it probably doesn't matter. >> >>> Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" >> >> Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY >> If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be >> set to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or >> "ca(fr)". > > This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything > that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which > is rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get > the accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's > just a pita. It works for me. What if you run "setxkbmap ca" or "setxkbmap ca multi" in an X terminal? Do you then get "azerty" when you type "qwerty"? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 10:38:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8A7106564A for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:38:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from mx06.syd.iprimus.net.au (mx06.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.76.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FC38FC18 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:38:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4FAN8c+Uk6sh4C/2dsb2JhbACBUI5hvxmDfwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,272,1238940000"; d="scan'208";a="183498715" Received: from 2.102.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au (HELO enterprise.blackthorn.nu) ([58.178.30.2]) by smtp06.syd.iprimus.net.au with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2009 20:37:49 +1000 Message-ID: <49F97FA2.8040003@maydias.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:38:26 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090410) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Cant connect to SVN server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:38:02 -0000 I have been trying for the last couple weeks to update my ports etc via svn but each time i try i get the below msg, im running latest updated ports atm via csup on a FREEBSD7.1-STABLE AMD64 system.. enterprise# svn up /usr/area51 svn: OPTIONS of 'https://kf.athame.co.uk/kde-freebsd/trunk/area51': could not connect to server (https://kf.athame.co.uk) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 11:56:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EB21065672 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.questions@virtualhost.nl) Received: from mail.virtualhost.nl (mail.virtualhost.nl [89.200.201.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CF48FC16 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:56:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.questions@virtualhost.nl) Received: (qmail 25665 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2009 13:30:02 +0200 Received: from ip120-12-208-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl (HELO ?192.168.1.7?) (87.208.12.120) by mail.virtualhost.nl with SMTP; 30 Apr 2009 13:30:02 +0200 Message-ID: <49F98BB9.3020806@virtualhost.nl> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:30:01 +0200 From: Jeroen Hofstee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: output of ifconfig list scan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:56:45 -0000 Inspired by the long "modern installer" thread I had a look at PC-BSD. I am one of the "lucky" owners of a Broadcom, Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card and added the ndiswrapper to support it. I noticed that the PC-BSD tray icon could not scan the network for SSID, while ifconfig does return this list. It appears that the tool assumes SSID are reported as SSID, which is not the case here. My list is similar as listed in the handbook, so I guess it is not directly related to the ndiswrapper. Looking at ifconfig, it appears to me that the ieee80211 part queries the kernel and prints the returned values. I therefore assume that there are drivers, which report the session as SSID instead of session directly. Can someone confirm above is correct? If someone has a list with SSID could I get a copy of it (e.g. directly to my e-mail) so I don't break other things while fixing mine. Jeroen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 13:03:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538FC106566B for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E828FC1A for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1101258ywe.13 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:03:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=beDGyYhqzTcWHKow/wRnLp8cNSPRSGJQ0Jp4xWeRgPs=; b=sxeP97j1q1hGJNA5pT2EGyI8LVh/LhiOGXFfTi4QsINCwohv9tND2tZcVhVB74snjw 8q9Nof+Y8L04fcxPv1RP4GztEp4tMd2Dp7h3tf0o0ti7hrKUv1HNdOiEzg/xC3QXwypB SCqIp04cUltdbY7Tw0j9EPxbn3KT7Rz6noax4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IFIpP4FwVCr/V0vylgvQMqsfmgphJwL1n95DYpdqG+Op7YY/RS76uSjAvdbTs1R/h2 TUTODEXSVV4G9jk7Yl55sVtV0AHwn6+UpFfyRoUz+ac2Gretl/dDdg/GpfNsswL/pMar E0EuMoeCWDz23dcJ0yYLYRhmcuTPuyniK4jXI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.75.13 with SMTP id x13mr1216272aga.102.1241096582190; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:03:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F8F255.6080508@avioc.org> References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> <26ddd1750904291049s22eb912dg81a105e5f783f44@mail.gmail.com> <49F8F255.6080508@avioc.org> From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:02:42 -0400 Message-ID: <26ddd1750904300602g31c8d135lab0200f37ff6d4a2@mail.gmail.com> To: Brandon Weisz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anton Yuzhaninov Subject: Re: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:03:03 -0000 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Brandon Weisz wrote: > Maxim Khitrov wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Anton Yuzhaninov >> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:28:01 -0400, Maxim Khitrov wrote: >>> MK> I'm setting up a firewall and would like to monitor certain system >>> MK> parameters like network, cpu, and memory usage. SNMP is an obvious >>> MK> choice to do the monitoring and I'm planning to set up rrdtool to >>> MK> generate graphs of captured data. The question is what SNMP agent to >>> MK> use. I found net-snmp and bsnmpd (which is included in the base >>> MK> system). Has anyone here used both implementations, and if so, what >>> MK> are the basic differences? >>> >>> main difference is the set of supported MIBs. >>> >>> In general net-snmp supports more MIBs than bsnmpd. >>> >>> E. g. BEGEMOT-PF-MIB supported only by bsnmpd and useful for monitoring >>> pf(4), >>> UCD-SNMP-MIB supported only by net-snmp and useful for monitoring CPU >>> load >>> (ssCpuRaw* counters). >> >> Is there any other documentation to bsnmpd besides the one man page? >> I'm trying to figure how to configure the daemon (first task is stop >> it from listening on *:*), but besides the man page and few comments >> in /etc/snmpd.config there is no other information that I can find. >> >> - Max > > I cant speak to the documentation, but this seems to limit it to listening > on a single address: > > Example.. > > # open standard SNMP ports > begemotSnmpdPortStatus.192.168.2.254.161 = 1 Thanks, but I tried this already. It causes bsnmpd to listen on the given IP as well, but doesn't remove the *:* entry: root@gw1 [/root]# sockstat -l4 USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS root bsnmpd 61251 4 udp4 *:* *:* root bsnmpd 61251 5 udp4 127.0.0.1:161 *:* The author suggested using "begemotSnmpdPortTable.0.0.0.0.161 = 1" and change the IP there, but this causes the following error: Apr 30 08:59:59 gw1 snmpd[78798]: unknown variable Apr 30 08:59:59 gw1 snmpd[78798]: in file /usr/local/etc/bsnmpd.conf line 20 Apr 30 08:59:59 gw1 snmpd[78798]: error in config file - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 13:20:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBA7106568A for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:20:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D3DA8FC22 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:20:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 15879 invoked by uid 89); 30 Apr 2009 13:21:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 30 Apr 2009 13:21:06 -0000 Message-ID: <49F9A58D.7050107@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:20:13 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maxim Khitrov References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> <26ddd1750904291049s22eb912dg81a105e5f783f44@mail.gmail.com> <49F8F255.6080508@avioc.org> <26ddd1750904300602g31c8d135lab0200f37ff6d4a2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750904300602g31c8d135lab0200f37ff6d4a2@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Brandon Weisz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anton Yuzhaninov Subject: Re: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:20:23 -0000 Maxim Khitrov wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Brandon Weisz wrote: >> I cant speak to the documentation, but this seems to limit it to listening >> on a single address: >> >> Example.. >> >> # open standard SNMP ports >> begemotSnmpdPortStatus.192.168.2.254.161 = 1 > > Thanks, but I tried this already. It causes bsnmpd to listen on the > given IP as well, but doesn't remove the *:* entry: > > root@gw1 [/root]# sockstat -l4 > USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS > root bsnmpd 61251 4 udp4 *:* *:* > root bsnmpd 61251 5 udp4 127.0.0.1:161 *:* > > The author suggested using "begemotSnmpdPortTable.0.0.0.0.161 = 1" and > change the IP there, but this causes the following error: > > Apr 30 08:59:59 gw1 snmpd[78798]: unknown variable > Apr 30 08:59:59 gw1 snmpd[78798]: in file /usr/local/etc/bsnmpd.conf line 20 > Apr 30 08:59:59 gw1 snmpd[78798]: error in config file Here's how I limit to a single address: host := 208.70.106.1 # open standard SNMP ports begemotSnmpdPortStatus.[$(host)].161 = 1 begemotSnmpdPortStatus.127.0.0.1.161 = 1 # netstat -na | grep 161 udp4 0 0 208.70.106.1.161 *.* udp4 0 0 127.0.0.1.161 *.* Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 13:32:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426831065678 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5088FC19 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:32:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so2636123gxk.19 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:32:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ua7rp/fjz1XRe52tGc9sv6mcf767RsaXjH9em2YBGhU=; b=wY8k8TMUQ+jS5T70ac/tx4tOQZWR0XRK9OWR2OpAf0OKi5tziaQIpLeiqpt6qEgtwA 4woaQx243CrjlFMLqbbqhGBgElbd5rR4TlT+iUy6rZIr1cndIFXvKYksvXcELx12FqYp vq5WC7sDzM/iGEFf07O3PW+zQFWXYQ2A2SsnY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aFpKEg10va8gXHOx79yg8UcNZwx5N9qJGa1rFOKVW6liJlIZlO9IP25O2BajjTfJzr zHdZQJRh1mmUPIjaOexKWWTYUMbQHNH+IkE+I637pIGsKSE9yPKhgVgH1xmiB4vdeI2X ZU2UTDu3IdJM2kPkwymqVxvk84btvm4dseBOc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.74.7 with SMTP id w7mr196128aga.77.1241098349107; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:32:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F9A58D.7050107@ibctech.ca> References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> <26ddd1750904291049s22eb912dg81a105e5f783f44@mail.gmail.com> <49F8F255.6080508@avioc.org> <26ddd1750904300602g31c8d135lab0200f37ff6d4a2@mail.gmail.com> <49F9A58D.7050107@ibctech.ca> From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:32:09 -0400 Message-ID: <26ddd1750904300632q625c2b3bkc0db5c9c1a140634@mail.gmail.com> To: Steve Bertrand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Brandon Weisz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anton Yuzhaninov Subject: Re: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:32:30 -0000 On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Maxim Khitrov wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Brandon Weisz wrote: > >>> I cant speak to the documentation, but this seems to limit it to listen= ing >>> on a single address: >>> >>> Example.. >>> >>> # open standard SNMP ports >>> begemotSnmpdPortStatus.192.168.2.254.161 =3D 1 >> >> Thanks, but I tried this already. It causes bsnmpd to listen on the >> given IP as well, but doesn't remove the *:* entry: >> >> root@gw1 [/root]# sockstat -l4 >> USER =C2=A0 =C2=A0 COMMAND =C2=A0 =C2=A0PID =C2=A0 FD PROTO =C2=A0LOCAL = ADDRESS =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FOREIGN ADDRESS >> root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 bsnmpd =C2=A0 =C2=A0 61251 4 =C2=A0udp4 =C2=A0 *:* = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *:* >> root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 bsnmpd =C2=A0 =C2=A0 61251 5 =C2=A0udp4 =C2=A0 127.0.= 0.1:161 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *:* >> >> The author suggested using "begemotSnmpdPortTable.0.0.0.0.161 =3D 1" and >> change the IP there, but this causes the following error: >> >> Apr 30 08:59:59 gw1 snmpd[78798]: unknown variable >> Apr 30 08:59:59 gw1 snmpd[78798]: =C2=A0 in file /usr/local/etc/bsnmpd.c= onf line 20 >> Apr 30 08:59:59 gw1 snmpd[78798]: error in config file > > Here's how I limit to a single address: > > host :=3D 208.70.106.1 > > # open standard SNMP ports > begemotSnmpdPortStatus.[$(host)].161 =3D 1 > begemotSnmpdPortStatus.127.0.0.1.161 =3D 1 > > # netstat -na | grep 161 > udp4 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0208.70.106.1.161 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *.* > udp4 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0127.0.0.1.161 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*.* Doesn't work for me, the grep command removes *:* entry from the output: root@gw1 [/root]# netstat -an Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) udp4 0 0 127.0.0.1.161 *.* udp4 0 0 *.* *.* The 127.0.0.1 entry is added with "begemotSnmpdPortStatus.127.0.0.1.161 =3D 1", but the other entry is always there. Turn the daemon on and off to verify that it's bsnmpd (or use sockstat). - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 13:39:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C606106566C for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 176388FC12 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 16604 invoked by uid 89); 30 Apr 2009 13:40:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 30 Apr 2009 13:40:09 -0000 Message-ID: <49F9AA04.3060005@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:39:16 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maxim Khitrov References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> <26ddd1750904291049s22eb912dg81a105e5f783f44@mail.gmail.com> <49F8F255.6080508@avioc.org> <26ddd1750904300602g31c8d135lab0200f37ff6d4a2@mail.gmail.com> <49F9A58D.7050107@ibctech.ca> <26ddd1750904300632q625c2b3bkc0db5c9c1a140634@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750904300632q625c2b3bkc0db5c9c1a140634@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Brandon Weisz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anton Yuzhaninov Subject: Re: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:39:24 -0000 Maxim Khitrov wrote: > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Steve Bertrand wrote: >> Maxim Khitrov wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Brandon Weisz wrote: >>>> I cant speak to the documentation, but this seems to limit it to listening >>>> on a single address: >>>> >>>> Example.. >>>> >>>> # open standard SNMP ports >>>> begemotSnmpdPortStatus.192.168.2.254.161 = 1 >>> Thanks, but I tried this already. It causes bsnmpd to listen on the >>> given IP as well, but doesn't remove the *:* entry: >>> >>> root@gw1 [/root]# sockstat -l4 >>> USER   COMMAND   PID  FD PROTO  LOCAL ADDRESS     FOREIGN ADDRESS >>> root   bsnmpd   61251 4  udp4  *:*          *:* >>> root   bsnmpd   61251 5  udp4  127.0.0.1:161     *:* >>> >>> The author suggested using "begemotSnmpdPortTable.0.0.0.0.161 = 1" and >>> change the IP there, but this causes the following error: >>> >>> Apr 30 08:59:59 gw1 snmpd[78798]: unknown variable >>> Apr 30 08:59:59 gw1 snmpd[78798]:  in file /usr/local/etc/bsnmpd.conf line 20 >>> Apr 30 08:59:59 gw1 snmpd[78798]: error in config file >> Here's how I limit to a single address: >> >> host := 208.70.106.1 >> >> # open standard SNMP ports >> begemotSnmpdPortStatus.[$(host)].161 = 1 >> begemotSnmpdPortStatus.127.0.0.1.161 = 1 >> >> # netstat -na | grep 161 >> udp4    0    0  208.70.106.1.161    *.* >> udp4    0    0  127.0.0.1.161      *.* > > Doesn't work for me, the grep command removes *:* entry from the output: > > root@gw1 [/root]# netstat -an > Active Internet connections (including servers) > Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) > udp4 0 0 127.0.0.1.161 *.* > udp4 0 0 *.* *.* > > > The 127.0.0.1 entry is added with > "begemotSnmpdPortStatus.127.0.0.1.161 = 1", but the other entry is > always there. Turn the daemon on and off to verify that it's bsnmpd > (or use sockstat). I see now what you are saying: # sockstat -l4 root bsnmpd 2857 5 udp4 *:* *:* root bsnmpd 2857 6 udp4 127.0.0.1:161 *:* root bsnmpd 2857 7 udp4 208.70.106.1:161 *:* I don't think I've ever seen a "*.*" in the local addr field before. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 13:50:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB51C106566B for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from troy@twisted.net) Received: from oz.twisted.net (oz.twisted.net [69.211.34.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD2B8FC0A for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from troy@twisted.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oz.twisted.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1842FD6CB7 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:33:52 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at twisted.net Received: from oz.twisted.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (oz.twisted.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sYYrLWHaY7Ft for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:33:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [172.16.0.5] (sindrome.twisted.net [172.16.0.5]) by oz.twisted.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A8674FD6ADA for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:33:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <49F9A8BD.2080708@twisted.net> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:33:49 -0500 From: Troy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> <26ddd1750904291049s22eb912dg81a105e5f783f44@mail.gmail.com> <49F8F255.6080508@avioc.org> <26ddd1750904300602g31c8d135lab0200f37ff6d4a2@mail.gmail.com> <49F9A58D.7050107@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <49F9A58D.7050107@ibctech.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: KDE QPainter PorterDuff modes not supported on device and phonon backend plugin could not be loaded X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: troy@twisted.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:50:02 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to solve two errors associated with running KDE over TightVNC. When I look at the log, I consistently see these errors. I've tried to find answers on how to solve each of them and have not had anything work at this point. Thanks, -Troy QPainter::setCompositionMode: PorterDuff modes not supported on device QPainter::setCompositionMode: PorterDuff modes not supported on device QPainter::setCompositionMode: PorterDuff modes not supported on device QPainter::setCompositionMode: PorterDuff modes not supported on device QPainter::setCompositionMode: PorterDuff modes not supported on device QPainter::setCompositionMode: PorterDuff modes not supported on device QPainter::setCompositionMode: PorterDuff modes not supported on device QPainter::setCompositionMode: PorterDuff modes not supported on device WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded WARNING: Phonon::createPath: Cannot connect Phonon::MediaObject ( no objectName ) to Phonon::AudioOutput ( no objectName ). WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded WARNING: bool Phonon::FactoryPrivate::createBackend() phonon backend plugin could not be loaded WARNING: Phonon::createPath: Cannot connect Phonon::MediaObject ( no objectName ) to Phonon::AudioOutput ( no objectName ). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 13:52:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F5A106566C for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A9E8FC08 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1799346bwz.43 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:51:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=AvO1T+MzedCuMxDbGqFlgjirDmY/HDV8Hh/+CXvymX4=; b=QE44ioNs0E+OwCdxJ/ILOP4NZGJZ5LJjeotqiA50wNzUGZeRmcSoQq57FL9C/WhtYY NuDO7rtpmXDVYhGfmqR7ykIOU05vqMcZ8NQZdQsqx90XcCTnTHyxVv0hxnsJPBWaiV22 V8Lzok08SR8cwQUOqzN4uSFnniyegXAGyCNPY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=GskunNDV3EmokBPLdXo3WXWKHmaPu6jkgWpDTToeffKdWEtKalLAOXUVEZkGNMBSj6 sRW64YmzzYKt7ZmwNPx+Yl6guf/xlA68XtzAWMMzQYTPFbeCO5NOeP9n9MlA9Rb3Eped wC0UGCKdu7MhCkShD6YB+YhxKIQRB1OEf30P4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.19 with SMTP id z19mr748229fao.27.1241099518351; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:51:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: portability of FreeBSD on a USB stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:52:00 -0000 If I install amd64 FreeBSD on a USB stick, should I be able to boot it up on both PC hardware (Intel core duo) and Intel Mac hardware with rEFIt? Thanks, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 14:41:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A455106564A for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp154.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp154.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5267D8FC08 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from relay15.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay15.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AE4A21B418F; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:41:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay15.relay.iad.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id 86E921B404E; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:41:37 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.10.0.080409 Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:41:33 -0400 From: Tom Worster To: Charles Howse , FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Running Apache with as few modules as possible Thread-Index: AcnJocF+iKAQv+8raUq4mdjUbC00rQ== In-Reply-To: <2382B6A6-0ACF-4558-A77A-806E01425A2B@charter.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Running Apache with as few modules as possible X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:41:38 -0000 On 4/29/09 4:59 PM, "Charles Howse" wrote: > I recall Bill Gates saying, "640k is enough for anybody." I agree, > it's not much of a savings, and there's always the possibility that > the webmaster may add something later that needs a module that's > commented, and run around in circles before she/he realizes it. right. one thing to remember about optimizations is to put your effort where you need it most. for example, in my apps that's always been in the database queries. so i have logging techniques that allow me to run pareto analyses on query timing data and use that to direct my efforts. spending a couple of weeks optimizing malloc(), a surprisingly popular activity, is seldom worth it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 14:43:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50C6106566C for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:43:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713068FC12 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:43:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1830395bwz.43 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:43:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ST9R2VtpsHyoFy0JJFvi3SuWvwcgt286V0Rm2GOk38I=; b=Qp190loyLdQQCpQgy4y7a6wzbucz2cRK9QW8UfuiCqxFI79xrv3pvmp+hJLsj+zLhV gUa4FNQYVqDqmZXEn+Cd8mZhtB2tc5oWSRZh6OR2+EMMVde7hiS6uQwnIkztpTLEbm9k sKW41k7MNQm9DxrejgqE7KvYLjeNkTTnrBoCg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xq1Nv85jTkVEiQMCltW/p+MlDoSh/MkgSCQQ1YQXf/n30CazQZWg13WNAFqH6ATBzS lJX6mWmzgoZoPbgzCwghlWIhsgInxSkvkg63NzYd0AazcJt+8tLJ16uUKTRAaxekMU5B tPCrPjcprbuFsmTTAX23ytyycEUoJtAB1oywA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.132.134 with SMTP id 6mr86461hbr.157.1241102635310; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:43:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F98BB9.3020806@virtualhost.nl> References: <49F98BB9.3020806@virtualhost.nl> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:43:55 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750904300743l7a154749r3b97ecb82f4c4f33@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Jeroen Hofstee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: output of ifconfig list scan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:43:57 -0000 On 4/30/09, Jeroen Hofstee wrote: > Inspired by the long "modern installer" thread I had a look at PC-BSD. > > I am one of the "lucky" owners of a Broadcom, Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN > Mini-PCI Card > and added the ndiswrapper to support it. > > I noticed that the PC-BSD tray icon could not scan the network for SSID, > while ifconfig does return this list. It appears that the tool assumes > SSID are reported as > SSID, which is not the case here. My list is similar as listed > in the handbook, > so I guess it is not directly related to the ndiswrapper. > > Looking at ifconfig, it appears to me that the ieee80211 part queries > the kernel and prints the returned values. > I therefore assume that there are drivers, which report the session as > SSID instead of session directly. Whatever means it is either not supported by NDIS or not implemented in ndisulator. > Can someone confirm above is correct? > If someone has a list with SSID could I get a copy of it (e.g. > directly to my e-mail) so I don't break > other things while fixing mine. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 15:10:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF861065670 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.questions@virtualhost.nl) Received: from mail.virtualhost.nl (mail.virtualhost.nl [89.200.201.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4598B8FC16 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.questions@virtualhost.nl) Received: (qmail 55632 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2009 17:10:48 +0200 Received: from ip120-12-208-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl (HELO ?192.168.1.7?) (87.208.12.120) by mail.virtualhost.nl with SMTP; 30 Apr 2009 17:10:48 +0200 Message-ID: <49F9BF78.5000402@virtualhost.nl> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:10:48 +0200 From: Jeroen Hofstee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul B. Mahol" References: <49F98BB9.3020806@virtualhost.nl> <3a142e750904300743l7a154749r3b97ecb82f4c4f33@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750904300743l7a154749r3b97ecb82f4c4f33@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: output of ifconfig list scan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:10:51 -0000 Paul B. Mahol wrote: >> It appears that the tool assumes SSID are reported as >> SSID, which is not the case here. My list is similar as listed >> in the handbook, >> >> Looking at ifconfig, it appears to me that the ieee80211 part queries >> the kernel and prints the returned values. >> I therefore assume that there are drivers, which report the session as >> SSID instead of session directly. >> > > Whatever means it is either not supported by NDIS or not implemented > in ndisulator. > Perhaps I should explain my question a bit better. The is just mentioned as an example. With the ndiswrapper the wifi is working proper and lists the available network (only mine shown), e.g. SSID BSSID CHAN RATE S:N INT CAPS DV201AM 00:13:d4:7a:16:b1 1 54M -51:-96 100 EP .... The wificonfig tool _assumes_ the output of ifconfig would look like. SSID BSSID CHAN RATE S:N INT CAPS SSID 00:13:d4:7a:16:b1 1 54M -51:-96 100 EP .... My question is if there are wifi drivers which report the SSID like this, instead of reporting them directly as in my case and if so how the output is formatted in that case. Hope this clarifies my question a bit. Jeroen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 15:11:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C958910656A8 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6198FC1D for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so1891273ewy.43 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:11:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=jZlv+vEr6oJ6SU00paJ95ZR377bf0c5ShLDXnue1ovM=; b=mPLcsmOg0ZHtkqyOzzWUhITD3VDQlrIcDwjcAaxR/GtgYNk2N1g7ZCXCs4St5SifgR zLddKQN5Pov5T5l4nTN4JXLKG/zH9gBs9FbW5ydGebTbjnm8ryDdzHt6BiSyZfgAhD7Q EPWA68arGE94r8bWXMuO3EInc1GbMgLk1bQgA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=FWcmQH0NqEoEDkgDCw171cQdkBmMp02oUUieJu+ianO97+70Oc0qjRJxOsHmqQiGBP TeKxlNBZqXMJbiuyQ4/t/HCbQnpLPqoBVA6IzAa7vo3TLs7BcCfYoAwlt+m4QdFaRtrD tdPb8dEgPMbKlrURDAJTSk9dhK5F6Tv3e+LPE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.85.9 with SMTP id m9mr3455377vcl.40.1241104308230; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:11:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F91611.50604@telenix.org> References: <49F89E2F.2040806@telenix.org> <20090429213402.f5271c10.dcdowse@gmx.net> <49F91611.50604@telenix.org> From: Tim Judd Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:11:28 -0600 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: filesystem compatibility between FreeBSD and OpenBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:11:51 -0000 something I wonder about.... I know OpenBSD and FreeBSD both have different versions of the "UFS" filesystems (FreeBSD newfs(8) -O option, OpenBSD newfs(8) -O) has someone tried to use all combinations of all options to see if they work? It's funny that OpenBSD's manpage says it uses FFS, not UFS -- when even I thought it said UFS before I looked it up. Just my 2c --TJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 15:27:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75115106566B for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD758FC1F for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1149459ywe.13 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:27:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FzAW06DffpZGuSZbthXGAi5uqb/aDfpI/MywCpMzayY=; b=tWBoyfvzOTU3Qnd1EhAuzoxWe4rXtOIjzEpdS1doKQvt6UBGBpfZFUC5yaX8wIimcK lMmulkGWaACJY+tCDxEZGIub9Pk41NfcwHQS0MSMCXUSYw8M8Bhj9VGcClA1VKc6SoN1 K0lytGguIhBj5MJwheK4dGGyYCsTQaV3jSf4Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KCukAi9kTzsIhltgUtDPRBF06WK7oUalil3Eec+gHOQ4/BKMOM4EmwtZ2mqOr47/ho PCd3nS3g8gpxyaHDU1WT9Wk6+mIfcfSkUfH/dqxbh9vuV4YRiteSrT6TeDu2Uec7cSw8 q2RRegSLAQq6J68xxj0Xz2Vf3p4yjRxZhlwYg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.197.3 with SMTP id u3mr3591111anf.20.1241105223264; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 08:27:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F9AA04.3060005@ibctech.ca> References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> <26ddd1750904291049s22eb912dg81a105e5f783f44@mail.gmail.com> <49F8F255.6080508@avioc.org> <26ddd1750904300602g31c8d135lab0200f37ff6d4a2@mail.gmail.com> <49F9A58D.7050107@ibctech.ca> <26ddd1750904300632q625c2b3bkc0db5c9c1a140634@mail.gmail.com> <49F9AA04.3060005@ibctech.ca> From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:26:43 -0400 Message-ID: <26ddd1750904300826n127a5a26u8fe784142a45730e@mail.gmail.com> To: Steve Bertrand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Brandon Weisz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anton Yuzhaninov Subject: Re: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:27:04 -0000 On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > I see now what you are saying: > > # sockstat -l4 > > root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 bsnmpd =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2857 =C2=A05 =C2=A0udp4 =C2=A0 *:= * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *:* > root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 bsnmpd =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2857 =C2=A06 =C2=A0udp4 =C2=A0 12= 7.0.0.1:161 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 *:* > root =C2=A0 =C2=A0 bsnmpd =C2=A0 =C2=A0 2857 =C2=A07 =C2=A0udp4 =C2=A0 20= 8.70.106.1:161 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*:* > > I don't think I've ever seen a "*.*" in the local addr field before. > > Steve > Received a reply from the author: "I think this is the socket that the snmp_mibII module opens to communicate via ioctls with the network stack. It is unbound, so it cannot and does not receive traffic. This should be no problem." - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 16:01:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F92106566B for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:01:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.72.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBAE8FC19 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.2.164] ([206.210.89.202]) by mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (StrongMail Enterprise 4.1.1.4(4.1.1.4-47689)); Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:00:01 -0400 X-VirtualServerGroup: Default X-MailingID: 00000::00000::00000::00000::::0 X-SMHeaderMap: mid="X-MailingID" X-Destination-ID: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-SMFBL: ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Message-ID: <49F9CB68.7040708@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:01:44 -0400 From: Steve Polyack User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090327) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> <49F5F459.9000403@ibctech.ca> <49F5FBBF.6060207@comcast.net> <49F8ABE9.4060505@pp.dyndns.biz> In-Reply-To: <49F8ABE9.4060505@pp.dyndns.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:01:59 -0000 Morgan Wesström wrote: > So I have two questions: > > 1) Is --with-mib-modules=if-mib already covered in the Makefile? I can > see the parameter but it refers to a variable I don't know the contents > of. The variable seems to refer to the build option NET_SNMP_MIB_MODULES > which is mentioned at the beginning of the compile process but I don't > know how to use it or its initial value. > > 2) Is there anyway to enable these two options during make without > editing the Makefile? > > Regards > Morgan > > 1. Yes, --with-mib-modules=if-mib is automatically appended to the list of mib modules when you set the WITH_MFD_REWRITES define. 2. The easiest way is to set the define upon running make [/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp]$ make -DWITH_MFD_REWRITES install clean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 18:00:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8651065675 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36B48FC16 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 16247 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2009 18:00:51 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Apr 2009 18:00:50 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D5DE35084B; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:00:48 -0400 (EDT) To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Aur=E9lien?= Ansel References: <49F86241.2070707@netasq.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:00:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: <49F86241.2070707@netasq.com> (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Aur=E9lien?= Ansel"'s message of "Wed\, 29 Apr 2009 16\:20\:49 +0200") Message-ID: <44r5zadnsf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with make config and OPTIONS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:00:52 -0000 Aur=E9lien Ansel writes: > Hi, > (sorry for my poor english) > > I have a problem, I'm trying to upgrade an existing port (net/scapy) , > I have done some changes in the Makefile but when I test the command > make config' I have : > > =3D=3D=3D> Options unchanged > > I haven't the dialog box with the differents kinds of Options that are > written in the Makefile, i have try the 'make rmconfig' but no change. > I am working on my personnal directory, not in /usr/ports/... I tried the same thing with the original makefile, and couldn't reproduce it. Are you sure that's exactly what you typed? --=20 Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 18:18:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9B4106566B for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tutorial@gawab.com) Received: from info66.gawab.com (mailhost22.gawab.com [66.220.20.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FC5A8FC13 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tutorial@gawab.com) Received: (qmail 26535 invoked by uid 1004); 30 Apr 2009 17:51:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO msi) (tutorial@gawab.com@92.80.12.122) by gawab.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2009 17:51:22 -0000 X-Trusted: Whitelisted Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:51:13 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Anonymous Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.62 (Win32) Subject: disklabel output format ? How to see in G M .. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:18:02 -0000 Using disklabel -A /dev/da0s1 I would like to see the sizes in G or M format, how can I do this? Also, googling arround i found output showing the cylinder space occupied by a partition (like : .... # cyl* X - Y ). How do I see that ? PS: i did man disklabel and bsdlabel but i didnt find the correct arguments. thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 18:34:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B78D106564A for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:34:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard.delaurell@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF8C8FC23 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard.delaurell@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so507804eyd.7 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:34:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mYnZ7OkzmApkHXCcxYnl/06965PFydptGK7zyFsVUgU=; b=dHpzA9Mp07twY05IGksDgljNtTuoaALOjoxLgUZLAcounZeFoaxNy5lCDmtY6JPSeQ qJT+SUjIsjtk3mZqDSpBEZuPvyFspE3KBcGygXv07YxQ23MNUkfuip3K18fHnROlW0Q8 8UaHPdBRrS6/vucYZVJmeiWTWBD6SEybSXCx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PsL8PUfHXRcERWYgugc2F+XQ9XBzyr0cALtrV9wbOyAHs/Ce9bq563CM/FU2di1JcM 0xsytmMBl6HA8L5tModdTg5otl4TV18exCZrpx4s4IcyAcy/GaWzBpAKx7ML8eDOhbG3 Q+jW/J/zaon3d04O3GIsLCNBCGWMbktyGlDl8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.140.19 with SMTP id n19mr657543ebd.27.1241116489702; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:34:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:34:49 -0500 Message-ID: <4324dbec0904301134q93bd1a5k4b0ce507225b0ca6@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard DeLaurell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: disklabel output format ? How to see in G M .. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:34:51 -0000 On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Anonymous wrote: > Also, googling arround i found output showing the cylinder space occupied > by a partition (like : > .... # cyl* X - Y ). How do I see that ? I think that fdisk will show you this. Good luck-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 18:35:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E36C1065696 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF84A8FC27 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-27-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.27.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8684D3D1D1; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:35:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n3UIZPPB001414; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:35:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:35:25 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Tim Judd Message-Id: <20090430203525.4b4c877e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <49F89E2F.2040806@telenix.org> <20090429213402.f5271c10.dcdowse@gmx.net> <49F91611.50604@telenix.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: filesystem compatibility between FreeBSD and OpenBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:35:33 -0000 On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:11:28 -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > It's funny that OpenBSD's manpage says it uses FFS, not UFS -- when even I > thought it said UFS before I looked it up. Don't FFS and UFS refer to the same file system, the Berkeley Fast File System, also known as 4.2bsd? In my "studies" according to a data recovery problem I found them used in similar ways. % ll /sbin/fsck_[uf4]* -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 87020 Aug 24 2008 /sbin/fsck_4.2bsd* -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 87020 Aug 24 2008 /sbin/fsck_ffs* -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 87020 Aug 24 2008 /sbin/fsck_ufs* At least on FreeBSD, they're all the same program. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 18:36:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AA41065722 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB008FC18 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n3UIaZdl029676 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:36:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n3UIaZtM015687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:36:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3UIaXWK015686; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:36:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:36:33 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Harald Schmalzbauer Message-ID: <20090430183633.GD91578@dan.emsphone.com> References: <49F967C2.6040908@OmniLAN.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49F967C2.6040908@OmniLAN.de> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:36:35 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: group credentials cache in X11-session (xfce4, gdm) question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:36:36 -0000 In the last episode (Apr 30), Harald Schmalzbauer said: > I'm wondering why and how it comes that after altering /etc/groups `id` > doesn't give me the additional group, while `id harry` does. If I quit my > X session and relogin it works as expected. Does gdm cache credentials? > Hard to find useful documentation for gdm... "id" tells you the credentials of the current process, while "id harry" tells you the group memberships in /etc/groups. Your credentials are set when you log in, and do not change ( unless you are root and call setgroups() or initgroups() ). -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 19:02:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258F2106566B for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB788FC15 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:02:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maanjee@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so4057284qyk.3 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:02:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=t10BGz0k3i1dgeSjx15Cx8KLX+mPSf4qG4UwE2a5rzI=; b=XL9DokzOI/a0GIAEo6Gxvai/hrnVC3vjgyKkQ9iORXK511cTUoVW+Oht6QNP6V6bcw xImmrU/X6aWI//g1RID3/cYWYG7XMtx0Gzx3smT1zm+NoMgy6vBsq3D47fmhr3g9aYJm uJjUsXRsERv+2+ISUrpNZLobqCvtli1SYPZDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=l53Zxpnx+6KtkmEScbHclYjY01feu0Tq/8tzgtkidPdXSP+16N7Phf2K6+e10YpWaX 4NLxpy469W9OMai1Tv4nXbwe97LUo790vkKJ8UWIs6628jaJcX6NsxAv62O56LyeU+jW 4MPg51N6/VW9nmWF5B0qx97rVogIcCg3US1yc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.85.132 with SMTP id o4mr1683293qcl.0.1241118158800; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:02:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0904280640r12f0028fq9beb49ee0dce5fc7@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> <49F6E261.6040808@aboutsupport.com> <2cd0a0da0904280521u125b4180s4e626670b67b73d5@mail.gmail.com> <200904281519.12945.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <2cd0a0da0904280640r12f0028fq9beb49ee0dce5fc7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:02:38 +0200 Message-ID: <2cd0a0da0904301202n1edaea1du5bba7e8b34266d70@mail.gmail.com> From: VeeJay To: Mel Flynn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Peter , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:02:41 -0000 Hi Mel I tried your suggestions by giving values vm.kmem_size_max="1024M" vm.kmem_size="1024M" but still got mysql hung.... without any luck.... here is the top output: even though there is plenty of free memory.... Guys, I am not very good on freebsd, its you guys who help me to keeping my server up... I hope you can spare a few minutes to sort this problem... last pid: 19656; load averages: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 up 2+05:00:12 19:18:47 3049 processes:2 running, 3047 sleeping CPU: 12.5% user, 0.0% nice, 0.1% system, 0.0% interrupt, 87.4% idle Mem: 6253M Active, 3810M Inact, 921M Wired, 128K Cache, 214M Buf, 4683M Free Swap: 32G Total, 32G Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 830 mysql 1500 44 0 1670M 813M ucond 1 0:00 100.00% mysqld 19649 sshUser 1 44 0 16304K 8340K CPU1 1 0:00 0.39% top 18277 sshUser 1 44 0 26448K 2756K select 0 0:28 0.00% sshd 841 root 1 44 0 115M 17132K select 0 0:24 0.00% httpd 790 postfix 1 4 0 4600K 1972K kqread 1 0:07 0.00% qmgr 14353 apache 1 4 0 117M 50896K sbwait 0 0:05 0.00% httpd 17564 apache 1 4 0 119M 16084K sbwait 0 0:05 0.00% httpd 18320 sshUser 1 44 0 21560K 5920K select 1 0:04 0.00% sftp-server 14395 apache 1 4 0 117M 51684K sbwait 0 0:04 0.00% httpd 782 root 1 4 0 4604K 1548K kqread 5 0:04 0.00% master 14456 apache 1 4 0 120M 52440K sbwait 0 0:03 0.00% httpd 629 root 1 44 0 5688K 1252K select 2 0:02 0.00% syslogd 18687 apache 1 4 0 116M 21528K sbwait 1 0:02 0.00% httpd 17759 apache 1 4 0 118M 15852K sbwait 3 0:02 0.00% httpd 17561 apache 1 4 0 117M 19368K sbwait 5 0:02 0.00% httpd 14609 apache 1 4 0 116M 50696K sbwait 2 0:02 0.00% httpd 14623 apache 1 4 0 117M 46444K sbwait 0 0:02 0.00% httpd 17599 apache 1 4 0 118M 14884K sbwait 1 0:02 0.00% httpd 16262 apache 1 4 0 119M 37000K sbwait 5 0:02 0.00% httpd 15176 apache 1 4 0 119M 32660K sbwait 3 0:01 0.00% httpd 16147 apache 1 4 0 118M 37540K sbwait 3 0:01 0.00% httpd 14624 apache 1 4 0 118M 45248K sbwait 2 0:01 0.00% httpd 18696 apache 1 4 0 116M 13544K sbwait 3 0:01 0.00% httpd 15694 apache 1 4 0 118M 31304K sbwait 2 0:01 0.00% httpd 17442 apache 1 4 0 118M 17872K sbwait 5 0:01 0.00% httpd 14621 apache 1 4 0 117M 45496K sbwait 4 0:01 0.00% httpd 17412 apache 1 4 0 118M 21500K sbwait 0 0:01 0.00% httpd 17504 apache 1 4 0 118M 16052K sbwait 0 0:01 0.00% httpd 14626 apache 1 4 0 118M 50984K sbwait 0 0:01 0.00% httpd 17448 apache 1 4 0 119M 19772K sbwait 5 0:01 0.00% httpd 12204 apache 1 4 0 116M 43588K sbwait 4 0:01 0.00% httpd 17560 apache 1 4 0 118M 15300K sbwait 0 0:01 0.00% httpd 17729 apache 1 4 0 119M 19828K sbwait 3 0:01 0.00% httpd 18017 apache 1 4 0 119M 17808K sbwait 3 0:01 0.00% httpd 16802 apache 1 4 0 118M 37124K sbwait 4 0:01 0.00% httpd 15640 apache 1 4 0 118M 31864K sbwait 4 0:01 0.00% httpd 18411 apache 1 4 0 119M 15084K sbwait 0 0:01 0.00% httpd -- Thanks! BR / vj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 19:19:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530591065691 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy2.bredband.net (proxy2.bredband.net [195.54.101.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D918FC66 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:19:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from ironport.bredband.com (195.54.101.120) by proxy2.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 49F59CBD00169140 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:19:19 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtkGAIOW+UlV4jp1PGdsb2JhbACBUItwiSABAQEBuiWDfwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,274,1238968800"; d="scan'208";a="511185910" Received: from c-753ae255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.58.117]) by ironport1.bredband.com with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2009 21:19:19 +0200 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3UJJGAn028218 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:19:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <49F9F9B4.9020405@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:19:16 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090430) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Free BSD Questions list References: <26ddd1750904270928g106c8d7dg72b6b3a09ffc0afa@mail.gmail.com> <49F5F459.9000403@ibctech.ca> <49F5FBBF.6060207@comcast.net> <49F8ABE9.4060505@pp.dyndns.biz> <49F9CB68.7040708@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <49F9CB68.7040708@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bsnmpd vs net-snmp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:19:24 -0000 >> 2) Is there anyway to enable these two options during make without >> editing the Makefile? >> > 2. The easiest way is to set the define upon running make > > [/usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp]$ make -DWITH_MFD_REWRITES install clean Thanks Steve, I actually tried that before posting but thought I made something wrong since I couldn't spot that command in the output. A vimdiff between that output and a regular make, shows significant differences though so I assume everything is alright. Thanks again for helping me solve this irritating problem I've had for so long. /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 19:52:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E38106564A for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:52:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EE78FC22 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:52:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay11.apple.com (relay11.apple.com [17.128.113.48]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9159C620E2DA; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay11.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay11.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id 777DD2809D; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:52:52 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807130-9f1b4bb000000d47-7e-49fa0194b947 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay11.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 6358328097; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Chuck Swiger To: VeeJay In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0904301202n1edaea1du5bba7e8b34266d70@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:49:13 -0700 References: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> <49F6E261.6040808@aboutsupport.com> <2cd0a0da0904280521u125b4180s4e626670b67b73d5@mail.gmail.com> <200904281519.12945.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <2cd0a0da0904280640r12f0028fq9beb49ee0dce5fc7@mail.gmail.com> <2cd0a0da0904301202n1edaea1du5bba7e8b34266d70@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:52:53 -0000 Hi, VeeJay-- On Apr 30, 2009, at 12:02 PM, VeeJay wrote: > Guys, I am not very good on freebsd, its you guys who help me to > keeping my > server up... I hope you can spare a few minutes to sort this > problem... > > last pid: 19656; load averages: 1.00, 1.00, > 1.00 > up 2+05:00:12 19:18:47 > 3049 processes:2 running, 3047 sleeping > CPU: 12.5% user, 0.0% nice, 0.1% system, 0.0% interrupt, 87.4% idle > Mem: 6253M Active, 3810M Inact, 921M Wired, 128K Cache, 214M Buf, > 4683M Free > Swap: 32G Total, 32G Free > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU > COMMAND > 830 mysql 1500 44 0 1670M 813M ucond 1 0:00 100.00% > mysqld It sure looks like you're running into a system limit with the maximum # of threads available to the mysql process. That's likely to be a consequence of some kind of query deadlock which is causing processes to get stuck and not be able to complete their work, resulting in subsequent requests also blocking until MySQL is no longer able to support more connection requests. There isn't enough information about what you're doing to really go much further-- something as simple as using MyISAM with full table- level locking versus InnoDB with row-level locking could be the problem, or you might have to take a closer look at the workload and outstanding queries. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 19:53:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0F21065674 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0F78FC0C for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay11.apple.com (relay11.apple.com [17.128.113.48]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABB5620E327; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay11.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay11.apple.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with ESMTP id DCEE228091; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:53:04 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807130-9e1b2bb000000d47-b5-49fa01a019b0 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay11.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id AC34D2808A; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5CE1099B-A0F7-43D0-9AF2-5D749B13506A@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: VeeJay In-Reply-To: <2cd0a0da0904301202n1edaea1du5bba7e8b34266d70@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:53:04 -0700 References: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com> <49F6E261.6040808@aboutsupport.com> <2cd0a0da0904280521u125b4180s4e626670b67b73d5@mail.gmail.com> <200904281519.12945.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <2cd0a0da0904280640r12f0028fq9beb49ee0dce5fc7@mail.gmail.com> <2cd0a0da0904301202n1edaea1du5bba7e8b34266d70@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: FreeBSD - Subject: Re: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:53:05 -0000 Hi, VeeJay-- On Apr 30, 2009, at 12:02 PM, VeeJay wrote: > Guys, I am not very good on freebsd, its you guys who help me to > keeping my > server up... I hope you can spare a few minutes to sort this > problem... > > last pid: 19656; load averages: 1.00, 1.00, > 1.00 > up 2+05:00:12 19:18:47 > 3049 processes:2 running, 3047 sleeping > CPU: 12.5% user, 0.0% nice, 0.1% system, 0.0% interrupt, 87.4% idle > Mem: 6253M Active, 3810M Inact, 921M Wired, 128K Cache, 214M Buf, > 4683M Free > Swap: 32G Total, 32G Free > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU > COMMAND > 830 mysql 1500 44 0 1670M 813M ucond 1 0:00 100.00% > mysqld It sure looks like you're running into a system limit with the maximum # of threads available to the mysql process. That's likely to be a consequence of some kind of query deadlock which is causing processes to get stuck and not be able to complete their work, resulting in subsequent requests also blocking until MySQL is no longer able to support more connection requests. There isn't enough information about what you're doing to really go much further-- something as simple as using MyISAM with full table- level locking versus InnoDB with row-level locking could be the problem, or you might have to take a closer look at the workload and outstanding queries. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 20:06:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76268106567B for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1908FC2C for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D39EA90163775A; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:06:13 +0100 Message-ID: <49FA04B3.9000805@onetel.com> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:06:11 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frederique Rijsdijk References: <49F75C20.4050300@onetel.com> <49F93B1D.9040001@isafeelin.org> In-Reply-To: <49F93B1D.9040001@isafeelin.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: archive search working? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:06:27 -0000 Frederique Rijsdijk wrote: > Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> I'm not getting any replies when searching the freebsd questions >> archives at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ >> >> That's the page I get to if I google "freebsd questions archives" (and >> then a couple of clicks to get to the archives) > > That is the right page, but it's not working for a while already.. > > > Ok thanks, it's not just me then. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 22:46:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959CD1065688 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:46:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Viraj.Dixit@CityofPaloAlto.org) Received: from xmail.cityofpaloalto.org (cerberus.city.palo-alto.ca.us [199.33.32.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9538FC08 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:46:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Viraj.Dixit@CityofPaloAlto.org) Received: from xpo.staff.copa ([172.17.1.12]) by xmail.cityofpaloalto.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:46:02 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9C9E5.63D97BB5" Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:45:41 -0700 Message-ID: <9A8CAB63B4C2014B883AF16FDFB362FB01F0127B@xpo.staff.copa> In-Reply-To: <9A8CAB63B4C2014B883AF16FDFB362FB01F0127A@xpo.staff.copa> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <9A8CAB63B4C2014B883AF16FDFB362FB01F0127B@xpo.staff.copa> Thread-Topic: SU Question Thread-Index: AcnJ48P7dgUlpLezQT+T+y6MCvz2WgAAXg5w References: <9A8CAB63B4C2014B883AF16FDFB362FB01F0127A@xpo.staff.copa> From: "Dixit, Viraj" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2009 22:46:02.0239 (UTC) FILETIME=[701CA8F0:01C9C9E5] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: SU Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:46:52 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9C9E5.63D97BB5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, I figured the problem, I edited the group file and added my name to the group wheel and still not getting su to work. VJ =20 Viraj Dixit=20 City of Palo Alto Information Technology=20 650-329-2118=20 ________________________________ From: Dixit, Viraj=20 Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:34 PM To: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org' Subject: RE: SU Question =20 Hi, =20 I just installed Free BSD OS 7.1 and installation went without any errors, all looks good till I try to login with SU account via telnet and I get this error below. Please help!! =20 =20 VJ =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9C9E5.63D97BB5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 22:46:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A1A106568C for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:46:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Viraj.Dixit@CityofPaloAlto.org) Received: from xmail.cityofpaloalto.org (cerberus.city.palo-alto.ca.us [199.33.32.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7638FC0A for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:46:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Viraj.Dixit@CityofPaloAlto.org) Received: from xpo.staff.copa ([172.17.1.12]) by xmail.cityofpaloalto.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:34:51 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9C9E3.C4F7CCA1" Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:34:05 -0700 Message-ID: <9A8CAB63B4C2014B883AF16FDFB362FB01F0127A@xpo.staff.copa> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <9A8CAB63B4C2014B883AF16FDFB362FB01F0127A@xpo.staff.copa> Thread-Topic: SU Question Thread-Index: AcnJ48P7dgUlpLezQT+T+y6MCvz2Wg== References: From: "Dixit, Viraj" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2009 22:34:51.0154 (UTC) FILETIME=[E01D3720:01C9C9E3] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: SU Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:46:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9C9E3.C4F7CCA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 I just installed Free BSD OS 7.1 and installation went without any errors, all looks good till I try to login with SU account via telnet and I get this error below. Please help!! =20 =20 VJ =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9C9E3.C4F7CCA1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 22:48:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29991065675 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Viraj.Dixit@CityofPaloAlto.org) Received: from xmail.cityofpaloalto.org (cerberus.city.palo-alto.ca.us [199.33.32.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C444B8FC2A for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Viraj.Dixit@CityofPaloAlto.org) Received: from xpo.staff.copa ([172.17.1.12]) by xmail.cityofpaloalto.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:48:03 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9C9E5.ACC5E59D" Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:47:44 -0700 Message-ID: <9A8CAB63B4C2014B883AF16FDFB362FB01F0127C@xpo.staff.copa> In-Reply-To: <9A8CAB63B4C2014B883AF16FDFB362FB01F0127B@xpo.staff.copa> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <9A8CAB63B4C2014B883AF16FDFB362FB01F0127C@xpo.staff.copa> Thread-Topic: SU Question Thread-Index: AcnJ48P7dgUlpLezQT+T+y6MCvz2WgAAXg5wAAAYHuA= References: <9A8CAB63B4C2014B883AF16FDFB362FB01F0127A@xpo.staff.copa> <9A8CAB63B4C2014B883AF16FDFB362FB01F0127B@xpo.staff.copa> From: "Dixit, Viraj" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2009 22:48:03.0706 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8830DA0:01C9C9E5] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: SU Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:48:07 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9C9E5.ACC5E59D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, I have the answer, my apologize to all. VJ =20 Viraj Dixit=20 City of Palo Alto Information Technology=20 650-329-2118=20 ________________________________ From: Dixit, Viraj=20 Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:46 PM To: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org' Subject: RE: SU Question =20 Sorry, I figured the problem, I edited the group file and added my name to the group wheel and still not getting su to work. VJ =20 Viraj Dixit=20 City of Palo Alto Information Technology=20 650-329-2118=20 ________________________________ From: Dixit, Viraj=20 Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:34 PM To: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org' Subject: RE: SU Question =20 Hi, =20 I just installed Free BSD OS 7.1 and installation went without any errors, all looks good till I try to login with SU account via telnet and I get this error below. Please help!! =20 =20 VJ =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9C9E5.ACC5E59D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 30 23:56:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59291065678 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00118FC15 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n3UNthcA040621; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:55:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n3UNthle040620; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:55:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:55:43 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Anonymous Message-ID: <20090430235543.GA40588@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disklabel output format ? How to see in G M .. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:56:16 -0000 On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 08:51:13PM +0300, Anonymous wrote: > > Using disklabel -A /dev/da0s1 I would like to see the sizes in G or M > format, how can I do this? > Also, googling arround i found output showing the cylinder space occupied > by a partition (like : > .... # cyl* X - Y ). How do I see that ? > PS: i did man disklabel and bsdlabel but i didnt find the correct > arguments. > thank you. I don't know if it will display them that way, but you can enter them as 100M or 12G or whatever is appropriate when you are creating partitions. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 00:58:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20972106566B for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 00:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from windforce150@vip.qq.com) Received: from smtpbg94.qq.com (smtpbg94.qq.com [119.147.10.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C0988FC18 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 00:58:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from windforce150@vip.qq.com) X-QQ-mid: esmtp3t1241139510t5t2107 Received: from esmtpproxy (unknown [61.150.43.46]) by esmtp3.qq.com (ESMTP) with SMTP id 0 for ; Fri, 01 May 2009 08:58:29 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:58:31 +0800 From: =?utf-8?B?5byg6Ie7?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090501005831.GA30180@my.cn> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: About javaws X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?utf-8?B?5byg6Ie7?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 00:58:36 -0000 --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, everybody. I have installed diablo-jdk16 on my FreeBSD 7.1 system. However, when I run the TopCoder Competition Arena, it failed to validate the certificate. And the details out put are below java.lang.RuntimeException: Unexpected error: java.security.InvalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty at sun.security.validator.PKIXValidator.(PKIXValidator.java:59) at sun.security.validator.Validator.getInstance(Validator.java:161) at com.sun.deploy.security.TrustDecider.isAllPermissionGranted(TrustDecider.java:335) at com.sun.javaws.security.AppPolicy.grantUnrestrictedAccess(AppPolicy.java:217) at com.sun.javaws.LaunchDownload.checkSignedResourcesHelper(LaunchDownload.java:1240) at com.sun.javaws.LaunchDownload.checkSignedResources(LaunchDownload.java:1077) at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.prepareLaunchFile(Launcher.java:704) at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.prepareToLaunch(Launcher.java:175) at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.launch(Launcher.java:95) at com.sun.javaws.Main.launchApp(Main.java:300) at com.sun.javaws.Main.continueInSecureThread(Main.java:210) at com.sun.javaws.Main$1.run(Main.java:107) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) Caused by: java.security.InvalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty at java.security.cert.PKIXParameters.setTrustAnchors(PKIXParameters.java:183) at java.security.cert.PKIXParameters.(PKIXParameters.java:103) at java.security.cert.PKIXBuilderParameters.(PKIXBuilderParameters.java:87) at sun.security.validator.PKIXValidator.(PKIXValidator.java:57) ... 12 more And this is my pkg_info output: %pkg_info |grep jdk diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02 Java Development Kit 1.6.0_07.02 Can anyone help to man the TopCoder Competition Arena run ok? It is in the attachement. -- #################################### # 欢迎访问ć‘çš„ĺ°Źç«™ # # http://zhangzhen.czm.cn # #################################### --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 01:04:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFED106566C for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 01:04:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DC78FC18 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 01:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so2097899bwz.43 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:04:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5poe0kffrsB4AcdpbypHcMoaHNH8ZWQkf8ot1NpdkIw=; b=CNx3O1Dv7FieUEjAmLOyZToqTKQsGVfrm9aLR+DAoVBGgeNQGM+Km1LE3av8LROeZ9 abx+FMbJxSGeTCcjUWw4h1XiUIwEAYhoX9YmE5yv8glRtdVfhe0IvnmBiJ1i1xjvrNf/ glvRACg6pHXp4F8LiOXcTfkimtaktv+qZ6uWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=M3yKhr3lQu76CLLeLknSlVeOI84tMQ2uSAMwHo5BVcBQvbOchCl0aTehugGsC8U5M/ ssDbaYAfHxt6CGue79r01sFU4BcraNsImr5R1tnCcH4MLiJEb5FBuQsRDhx3rxwb7f+F UOAXolqr3GfeO+Q6wfC5olYINxgYeh3sT5KC0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.170.141 with SMTP id s13mr122322hbe.70.1241139857781; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:04:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F9BF78.5000402@virtualhost.nl> References: <49F98BB9.3020806@virtualhost.nl> <3a142e750904300743l7a154749r3b97ecb82f4c4f33@mail.gmail.com> <49F9BF78.5000402@virtualhost.nl> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 03:04:17 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750904301804v37951620jd435c0017cdad064@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Jeroen Hofstee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: output of ifconfig list scan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 01:04:19 -0000 On 4/30/09, Jeroen Hofstee wrote: > Paul B. Mahol wrote: >>> It appears that the tool assumes SSID are reported as >>> SSID, which is not the case here. My list is similar as listed >>> in the handbook, >>> >>> Looking at ifconfig, it appears to me that the ieee80211 part queries >>> the kernel and prints the returned values. >>> I therefore assume that there are drivers, which report the session as >>> SSID instead of session directly. >>> >> >> Whatever means it is either not supported by NDIS or not >> implemented >> in ndisulator. >> > Perhaps I should explain my question a bit better. The is just > mentioned as an example. > With the ndiswrapper the wifi is working proper and lists the available > network (only mine shown), e.g. > > SSID BSSID CHAN RATE S:N INT CAPS > DV201AM 00:13:d4:7a:16:b1 1 54M -51:-96 100 EP > .... > > The wificonfig tool _assumes_ the output of ifconfig would look like. > SSID BSSID CHAN RATE S:N INT CAPS > SSID 00:13:d4:7a:16:b1 1 54M -51:-96 100 EP > .... > > My question is if there are wifi drivers which report the SSID like > this, instead of reporting them > directly as in my case and if so how the output is formatted in that case. This is first time I heard about this, and looks like wificonfig tool bug. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 01:44:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460021065672 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 01:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBE18FC12 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 01:44:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 27885 invoked by uid 89); 1 May 2009 01:44:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 1 May 2009 01:44:50 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <200904300742.32991.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <624F45CA-1083-4DC2-8A98-DFE44B5B6CE8@identry.com> <20090429225158.GC91578@dan.emsphone.com> <18936.56654.494648.286696@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200904300742.32991.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:44:12 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: Is it necessary to generate a new SSL request each year? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 01:44:19 -0000 >>> >>> You can reuse the old one. >> >> I'm not an expert on these, but it was my understanding that >> certificates carry in internal "expiration date" after which the >> application may respond as it pleases. > > Yes, but the *request* does not. > Also, if using openssl, just set the defaults in /etc/ssl/ > openssl.cnf to your > values, so you can enter through the questions Cool... save a minute here and a minute there... at the end of a year, I might have enough saved up to take lunch! -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 01:44:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1971065687 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 01:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@cjones.org) Received: from maxine.cjones.org (chris.static.mt.net [206.127.66.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F9B8FC1D for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 01:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from weif@cjones.org) Received: by maxine.cjones.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id E6AB5A39A9; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:44:29 -0600 (MDT) From: Keith Seyffarth To: "=?UTF-8?B?5paH6bOl?=" In-reply-to: <20090429201157.4f40214f@centaur.5550h.net> (bunchou@googlemail.com) References: <20090429174842.8E786A40EE@maxine.cjones.org> <20090429201157.4f40214f@centaur.5550h.net> Message-Id: <20090501014429.E6AB5A39A9@maxine.cjones.org> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:44:29 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gnucash 2.2.7_2 after upgrade to Firefox 3.0.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: weif@weif.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 01:44:31 -0000 This patch worked for me: https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2009-April/029582.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 04:03:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674421065676 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 04:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfalang.bob@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f162.google.com (mail-fx0-f162.google.com [209.85.220.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22458FC17 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfalang.bob@gmail.com) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so2167404fxm.43 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:03:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=+cbsh5YLbPzxOrXJ6pdV3Q93ZYCjWrNpIPLrylzu+Wc=; b=oRgAvFNfmHVhDQE49krmtvLMSvTRDWHUKCdesFKOnI+GrZQupxJ3Azi5SZ8S7jgMvH cyv+M2j1x6ovmWgxTnMxl9JYIx/KeVejRSsha4BepltXs9E52r5niG/IXBsQ7RD9HBfx eAxDPKPtLpAU7b4zmkt7SQXXTDzaelLidfvB8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OVg8rkisqX5J66sCNMqG/t7p8gmvlFkQV1JMwUVDtP1ahnBAUUZKYzFBpGFJSFKqBe z0MaH89c/Zl2vYGlFZ2e++71+3ZCLTfaajWVvt4g88jN54GDewqIc7YMjwxmIS9RhV29 JPxuZML99q+8FifFc3wYARFr6DUZmWnc0QHnQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.136 with SMTP id a8mr1050788faq.76.1241150591112; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 04:03:11 +0000 Message-ID: <58d1e8d30904302103k34fcc372v31ca0e5b1d698934@mail.gmail.com> From: Bob Falanga To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: where do I find libthr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 04:03:12 -0000 I am using pcbsd 6.3 When I try to use apache22 or kdesvn I get an error message (Shared object "libthr.so.3" not found, required by "libapr-1.so.2") Can anyone help me? Bob Falanga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 06:30:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD33D106566C for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 06:30:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993AE8FC14 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 06:30:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so4615414qyk.3 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:30:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ugGB4ift18vr/pvyCDz7mI93w1KTPRWnsrqFBvwn+IY=; b=oNoixQo91CYjWmkLPqpQI0MGqx1sOfJNkfiw+esVWY/XbMpOI+/OEX/8Nb3lHMmrq7 zzWBVAJobjfclupgmI4JJPhIXIEBR7F8dIzC9H/a6Vo+YF3dAjH2AAG23YLU3awPqjsr Vv01GqfiLNZhs+HP3ekUa21UJsklR007G4i9M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SLmFxzk5X4k0Mkh6ZJBxDOilMfJ3ebX5JmaGE1pYYWjEocH0uCWAQsoauBlIwpSglq bkn7/YgDjiMz0s0hiWe/Z7y562WIwD/nIv9JC9EJwUM418piOleG2BcpLcD3lOUjp9Xw /5ZJ5L1UBFZD54vgWkn0dspVVy99T31DsMGDg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.110.16 with SMTP id l16mr1958119qcp.92.1241159409248; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:30:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <58d1e8d30904302103k34fcc372v31ca0e5b1d698934@mail.gmail.com> References: <58d1e8d30904302103k34fcc372v31ca0e5b1d698934@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 02:30:09 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Bob Falanga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: where do I find libthr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 06:30:11 -0000 2009/5/1 Bob Falanga : > I am using pcbsd 6.3 > When I try to use apache22 or kdesvn I get an error message (Shared object > "libthr.so.3" not found, required by "libapr-1.so.2") > What d'ya get when you type: locate libthr.so Also, how did you install apache22 or kdesvn? -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 08:13:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB20106564A for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 08:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebster@sebster.com) Received: from mail.sebster.com (mail.sebster.com [193.46.80.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A4A88FC1B for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 08:13:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebster@sebster.com) Received: (qmail 49117 invoked from network); 1 May 2009 08:13:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.1.6?) (sebster@85.147.225.232) by 10.0.98.3 with SMTP; 1 May 2009 08:13:16 -0000 Message-ID: <49FAAF1C.6040802@sebster.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 10:13:16 +0200 From: Sebastiaan van Erk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090318) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <49F81FF2.3040302@sebster.com> <1240999037.2645.3.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <49F8269E.2010201@sebster.com> <49F89FE1.6070807@freemail.gr> <49F8CC51.2030203@sebster.com> <49F94E25.6000900@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <49F94E25.6000900@gmx.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060205080509000807070100" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: CARP & bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 08:13:20 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060205080509000807070100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > Sebastiaan van Erk wrote: >> >> Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it, but unfortunately the carp >> device never leaves the INIT state when I put the ip on the bridge. >> :-( I did find some similar problem here: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=125816 > > I just noticed that. On -CURRENT carp tells you that's > not supported: > bridge0: carp is not supported for this interface type > > OTOH why do you even have to use the VIP from the remote > side of the bridge? > > The only reason I can think of, for doing such a thing, > is to get *all* traffic from the remote location through > a "single" redundant router, the one with the VIP. Is this > the case? It is indeed a "single" redundant router, though the traffic from the other side of the bridge (the OpenVPN clients) generally don't need to be routed redudantantly. The OpenVPN clients use OpenVPN's redundancy (multiple "remote xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" lines), and thus use the non-redundant IP address of the OpenVPN client they're connected to as gateway (which is fine, because if the server dies OpenVPN connects to a different server anyway)... So I don't really *NEED* the CARP ip address over the bridge (the static arp works, so I have a working solution, albeit an ugly one; an ARP request generates a reply from every member of the redundant cluster). 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<0KIY001LZUI5I060@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 May 2009 08:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49FAF132.2090809@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 08:55:14 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: Tijl Coosemans References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> <200904301200.44224.tijl@ulyssis.org> In-reply-to: <200904301200.44224.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 12:55:13 -0000 Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Wednesday 29 April 2009 22:04:34 PJ wrote: >> Tijl Coosemans wrote: >>> On Wednesday 29 April 2009 15:20:34 PJ wrote: >>>> xorg.conf: (snip for relevant) >>>> Section "ServerLayout" >>>> Identifier "X.org Configured" >>>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >>>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >>>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >>>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" >>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> Section "Files" >>>> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" >>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> Section "Module" >>>> Load "extmod" >>>> Load "record" >>>> Load "dbe" >>>> Load "glx" >>>> Load "GLcore" >>>> Load "xtrap" >>>> Load "dri" >>>> Load "freetype" >>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> Section "InputDevice" >>>> Identifier "Keyboard0" >>>> Driver "kbd" >>>> Option "XkbModel" "pc104" >>> This might have to be pc105, but it probably doesn't matter. >>> >>>> Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" >>> Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY >>> If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be >>> set to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or >>> "ca(fr)". >> This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything >> that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which >> is rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get >> the accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's >> just a pita. > > It works for me. What if you run "setxkbmap ca" or "setxkbmap ca multi" > in an X terminal? Do you then get "azerty" when you type "qwerty"? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I have things under control. the only problem I was having was the switching. That is taken care of by using Option "XkbOption" "grp:alt_shift_toggle" That allows to switch back and forth. Check your keyboard and verify the keys next to the rtShift, rtEnter keys: to the left, and the two above rtEnter. If you have the real, true French CAnadian keyboard or keymap installed, you will get é, è, ç and à characters - WITH ONE KEYSTROKE EACH. If you only get ` tick or ' with one key press, then it is some kind of French keyboard or old French Candadian. I have not been able to get this under xorg. (using fluxbox). If you are getting the true French Canadian keyboard, you must be using a different windows manager. Which do you have? -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 13:11:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D19106564A for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 13:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8278FC0C for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 13:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIY0034OV8HKP60@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 May 2009 09:09:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49FAF4E6.2020906@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 09:11:02 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: Boris Samorodov References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F85422.20403@videotron.ca> <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> <69508507@bb.ipt.ru> In-reply-to: <69508507@bb.ipt.ru> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:11:10 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:04:34 -0400 PJ wrote: > >> Tijl Coosemans wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday 29 April 2009 15:20:34 PJ wrote: >>> >>>> Cool. Then I can ask some questions regarding all of this. >>>> >>>> rc.conf: (snipped to show the relevant entries) >>>> font8x16="iso15-8x16" >>>> font8x14="iso15-8x14" >>>> font8x8="iso15-8x8" >>>> allscreens_flags="VGA_80x60 cyan" >>>> rpcbind_enable="YES" >>>> mountd_flags="-r" >>>> nfs_client_enable="YES" >>>> nfs_client_flags="-n 4" >>>> samba_enable="YES" >>>> cupsd_enable="YES" >>>> apache22_enable="YES" >>>> postgresql_enable="YES" >>>> mysql_enable="YES" >>>> webmin_enable="YES" >>>> #keymap=fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd >>>> >>>> Question: >>>> 1. the font entries? The /usr/share/syscons/fonts/ entry has suffixes >>>> of .fnt - ??? >>>> >>> Your font and keymap settings are ok. The extensions can be omitted. >>> See the EXAMPLES sections in vidcontrol(1) and kbdcontrol(1). >>> >>> >>>> 2. the keymap is commented out because, although it gives me the >>>> fr_CA keyboard, it also uses French messages which are a bit tortured >>>> (French courtly affectations in the language are quaint but also make >>>> for long and convoluted terminology - notice that a text translated >>>> to French is always longer). K.I.S.S. >>>> >>> Keyboard settings shouldn't affect message localisation. Do you set >>> the environment variable LANG in ~/.login_conf or in a shell startup >>> script (.profile or .cshrc or other depending on the shell)? If so, >>> set it to en_CA.ISO8859-15 or something. From q5 below I think you've >>> currently set it to fr_CA.utf-8. >>> > > No answer. Which locale do you use? > default us > >>>> xorg.conf: (snip for relevant) >>>> Section "ServerLayout" >>>> Identifier "X.org Configured" >>>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >>>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >>>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >>>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" >>>> > > Seems that you use new X stuff. X11@ and gnome@ maillist archieves may > give you some additional information. > > >>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> Section "Files" >>>> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" >>>> > > Unless I add cyrillic fonts, I'm not able to see cyrillic > letters at xterm for my utf-8 locale. > > >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" >>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> Section "Module" >>>> Load "extmod" >>>> Load "record" >>>> Load "dbe" >>>> Load "glx" >>>> Load "GLcore" >>>> Load "xtrap" >>>> Load "dri" >>>> Load "freetype" >>>> EndSection >>>> >>>> Section "InputDevice" >>>> Identifier "Keyboard0" >>>> Driver "kbd" >>>> Option "XkbModel" "pc104" >>>> >>> This might have to be pc105, but it probably doesn't matter. >>> >>> >>>> Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" >>>> >>> Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY >>> If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be set >>> to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or >>> "ca(fr)". >>> >> This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything >> that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which is >> rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get the >> accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's just a pita. >> > > Phil, you didn't say which keyboard do you use and which options you > have tried. > > Anyway, you may look at /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst [1] > for options that can be used at xorg.conf for keyboards. > > And you may be interested in looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log. > There are many useful diagnistics at this file. > > >>>> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle" >>>> >>> If you don't need layout switching just delete this. >>> >> I guess I wasn't clear. Toggling was meant to mean switching back and >> forth; switching - just once. I would like to use switching but it seems >> to only work one way. Can't switch back. rtAlt switches from us to the >> ca (which oddly seems to mean French, but nothing to do with Canadian or >> French Canadian. Only fluxbox brings it back and then rtAlt no longer >> works. Weird. >> Any idea where the documentation is for this? >> The man page is rather foggy and has no mention of XkbOptions or >> XkbLayout or anything about "grp:toggle" >> > > Looking at [1] should help. > > > HTH & WBR > Hi, Boris, Thanks much for your input. I looked at all the possibilities, like the profile, login.conf files, logs, google and have finally configured all as I like. Everything works fine... EXCEPT - it is impossible to install a French-Canadian keyboard/keymap (without creating one - and I'm not about to get into that) on xorg (with fluxbox as wm) As I just responded to Tijl Goosemans, the true French Canadian keyboard produces the most common accented characters with one keystroke; the French or old Fr-Canadian uses 2 keystrokes. I can assure you because I am typing on that keyboard right now. I switch between us & fr_ca with ShiftAlt. the key to the right of the p/P key is used to create the circumfex (lowercase) in conjunction with a vowel or umlaut (uppercase). In Xorg, the toggle/switching is set with Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle" or just alt or shift, I think. Also you can list several languages, like "us,ru,es,fr" and switch from one to the next (haven't tried, but I think it works); and "CoreKeyboard" must have a boolean option set - either yes or no - "yes" works for me. I suppose you could enter true/false, but I haven't tried. No need. -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 13:25:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD421065675 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 13:25:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220038FC15 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 13:25:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Lzsjc-000HYv-EY; Fri, 01 May 2009 17:25:00 +0400 To: PJ References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F85422.20403@videotron.ca> <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> <69508507@bb.ipt.ru> <49FAF4E6.2020906@videotron.ca> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 17:25:00 +0400 In-Reply-To: <49FAF4E6.2020906@videotron.ca> (PJ's message of "Fri\, 01 May 2009 09\:11\:02 -0400") Message-ID: <24851107@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:25:02 -0000 On Fri, 01 May 2009 09:11:02 -0400 PJ wrote: > Boris Samorodov wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:04:34 -0400 PJ wrote: > > > >> Tijl Coosemans wrote: > >> > >>> On Wednesday 29 April 2009 15:20:34 PJ wrote: > >>> > >>>> Cool. Then I can ask some questions regarding all of this. > >>>> > >>>> rc.conf: (snipped to show the relevant entries) > >>>> font8x16="iso15-8x16" > >>>> font8x14="iso15-8x14" > >>>> font8x8="iso15-8x8" > >>>> allscreens_flags="VGA_80x60 cyan" > >>>> rpcbind_enable="YES" > >>>> mountd_flags="-r" > >>>> nfs_client_enable="YES" > >>>> nfs_client_flags="-n 4" > >>>> samba_enable="YES" > >>>> cupsd_enable="YES" > >>>> apache22_enable="YES" > >>>> postgresql_enable="YES" > >>>> mysql_enable="YES" > >>>> webmin_enable="YES" > >>>> #keymap=fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd > >>>> > >>>> Question: > >>>> 1. the font entries? The /usr/share/syscons/fonts/ entry has suffixes > >>>> of .fnt - ??? > >>>> > >>> Your font and keymap settings are ok. The extensions can be omitted. > >>> See the EXAMPLES sections in vidcontrol(1) and kbdcontrol(1). > >>> > >>> > >>>> 2. the keymap is commented out because, although it gives me the > >>>> fr_CA keyboard, it also uses French messages which are a bit tortured > >>>> (French courtly affectations in the language are quaint but also make > >>>> for long and convoluted terminology - notice that a text translated > >>>> to French is always longer). K.I.S.S. > >>>> > >>> Keyboard settings shouldn't affect message localisation. Do you set > >>> the environment variable LANG in ~/.login_conf or in a shell startup > >>> script (.profile or .cshrc or other depending on the shell)? If so, > >>> set it to en_CA.ISO8859-15 or something. From q5 below I think you've > >>> currently set it to fr_CA.utf-8. > >>> > > > > No answer. Which locale do you use? > > > default us > > > >>>> xorg.conf: (snip for relevant) > >>>> Section "ServerLayout" > >>>> Identifier "X.org Configured" > >>>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > >>>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > >>>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > >>>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" > >>>> > > > > Seems that you use new X stuff. X11@ and gnome@ maillist archieves may > > give you some additional information. > > > > > >>>> EndSection > >>>> > >>>> Section "Files" > >>>> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > >>>> > > > > Unless I add cyrillic fonts, I'm not able to see cyrillic > > letters at xterm for my utf-8 locale. > > > > > >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" > >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > >>>> EndSection > >>>> > >>>> Section "Module" > >>>> Load "extmod" > >>>> Load "record" > >>>> Load "dbe" > >>>> Load "glx" > >>>> Load "GLcore" > >>>> Load "xtrap" > >>>> Load "dri" > >>>> Load "freetype" > >>>> EndSection > >>>> > >>>> Section "InputDevice" > >>>> Identifier "Keyboard0" > >>>> Driver "kbd" > >>>> Option "XkbModel" "pc104" > >>>> > >>> This might have to be pc105, but it probably doesn't matter. > >>> > >>> > >>>> Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" > >>>> > >>> Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY [2] > >>> If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be set > >>> to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or > >>> "ca(fr)". > >>> > >> This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything > >> that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which is > >> rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get the > >> accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's just a pita. > >> > > > > Phil, you didn't say which keyboard do you use and which options you > > have tried. > > > > Anyway, you may look at /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst [1] > > for options that can be used at xorg.conf for keyboards. > > > > And you may be interested in looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log. > > There are many useful diagnistics at this file. > > > >>>> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle" > >>>> > >>> If you don't need layout switching just delete this. > >>> > >> I guess I wasn't clear. Toggling was meant to mean switching back and > >> forth; switching - just once. I would like to use switching but it seems > >> to only work one way. Can't switch back. rtAlt switches from us to the > >> ca (which oddly seems to mean French, but nothing to do with Canadian or > >> French Canadian. Only fluxbox brings it back and then rtAlt no longer > >> works. Weird. > >> Any idea where the documentation is for this? > >> The man page is rather foggy and has no mention of XkbOptions or > >> XkbLayout or anything about "grp:toggle" > >> > > > > Looking at [1] should help. > > > > > > HTH & WBR > > > Hi, Boris, > Thanks much for your input. I looked at all the possibilities, like the > profile, login.conf files, logs, google and have finally configured all > as I like. Everything works fine... > EXCEPT - it is impossible to install a French-Canadian keyboard/keymap > (without creating one - and I'm not about to get into that) on xorg > (with fluxbox as wm) > As I just responded to Tijl Goosemans, the true French Canadian keyboard > produces the most common accented characters with one keystroke; the > French or old Fr-Canadian uses 2 keystrokes. I can assure you because I Does that mead that your keyboard is not shown at wiki [2]? > am typing on that keyboard right now. I switch between us & fr_ca with > ShiftAlt. the key to the right of the p/P key is used to create the > circumfex (lowercase) in conjunction with a vowel or umlaut (uppercase). Did you look at [1]? There are some tree variants for canadian multilingual keyboards: multix, multi, multi-2gr. May be this may help you. > In Xorg, the toggle/switching is set with Option "XkbOptions" > "grp:alt_shift_toggle" or just alt or shift, I think. Also you can list > several languages, like "us,ru,es,fr" and switch from one to the next > (haven't tried, but I think it works); and "CoreKeyboard" must have a > boolean option set - either yes or no - "yes" works for me. I suppose > you could enter true/false, but I haven't tried. No need. BTW, may be another mail list (x11@) may give you some more experienced eyes to help you. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 13:57:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67176106566C for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 13:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E218FC08 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 13:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIY0083GXE20L50@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 May 2009 09:56:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49FAFFCF.9060702@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 09:57:35 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: Boris Samorodov References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F85422.20403@videotron.ca> <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> <69508507@bb.ipt.ru> <49FAF4E6.2020906@videotron.ca> <24851107@bb.ipt.ru> In-reply-to: <24851107@bb.ipt.ru> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:57:45 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Fri, 01 May 2009 09:11:02 -0400 PJ wrote: > >> Boris Samorodov wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:04:34 -0400 PJ wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Tijl Coosemans wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Wednesday 29 April 2009 15:20:34 PJ wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Cool. Then I can ask some questions regarding all of this. >>>>>> >>>>>> rc.conf: (snipped to show the relevant entries) >>>>>> font8x16="iso15-8x16" >>>>>> font8x14="iso15-8x14" >>>>>> font8x8="iso15-8x8" >>>>>> allscreens_flags="VGA_80x60 cyan" >>>>>> rpcbind_enable="YES" >>>>>> mountd_flags="-r" >>>>>> nfs_client_enable="YES" >>>>>> nfs_client_flags="-n 4" >>>>>> samba_enable="YES" >>>>>> cupsd_enable="YES" >>>>>> apache22_enable="YES" >>>>>> postgresql_enable="YES" >>>>>> mysql_enable="YES" >>>>>> webmin_enable="YES" >>>>>> #keymap=fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd >>>>>> >>>>>> Question: >>>>>> 1. the font entries? The /usr/share/syscons/fonts/ entry has suffixes >>>>>> of .fnt - ??? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Your font and keymap settings are ok. The extensions can be omitted. >>>>> See the EXAMPLES sections in vidcontrol(1) and kbdcontrol(1). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> 2. the keymap is commented out because, although it gives me the >>>>>> fr_CA keyboard, it also uses French messages which are a bit tortured >>>>>> (French courtly affectations in the language are quaint but also make >>>>>> for long and convoluted terminology - notice that a text translated >>>>>> to French is always longer). K.I.S.S. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Keyboard settings shouldn't affect message localisation. Do you set >>>>> the environment variable LANG in ~/.login_conf or in a shell startup >>>>> script (.profile or .cshrc or other depending on the shell)? If so, >>>>> set it to en_CA.ISO8859-15 or something. From q5 below I think you've >>>>> currently set it to fr_CA.utf-8. >>>>> >>>>> >>> No answer. Which locale do you use? >>> >>> >> default us >> >>> >>> >>>>>> xorg.conf: (snip for relevant) >>>>>> Section "ServerLayout" >>>>>> Identifier "X.org Configured" >>>>>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >>>>>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >>>>>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >>>>>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> Seems that you use new X stuff. X11@ and gnome@ maillist archieves may >>> give you some additional information. >>> >>> >>> >>>>>> EndSection >>>>>> >>>>>> Section "Files" >>>>>> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" >>>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> Unless I add cyrillic fonts, I'm not able to see cyrillic >>> letters at xterm for my utf-8 locale. >>> >>> >>> >>>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" >>>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" >>>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" >>>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" >>>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" >>>>>> EndSection >>>>>> >>>>>> Section "Module" >>>>>> Load "extmod" >>>>>> Load "record" >>>>>> Load "dbe" >>>>>> Load "glx" >>>>>> Load "GLcore" >>>>>> Load "xtrap" >>>>>> Load "dri" >>>>>> Load "freetype" >>>>>> EndSection >>>>>> >>>>>> Section "InputDevice" >>>>>> Identifier "Keyboard0" >>>>>> Driver "kbd" >>>>>> Option "XkbModel" "pc104" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> This might have to be pc105, but it probably doesn't matter. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY >>>>> > > [2] > > >>>>> If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be set >>>>> to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or >>>>> "ca(fr)". >>>>> >>>>> >>>> This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything >>>> that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which is >>>> rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get the >>>> accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's just a pita. >>>> >>>> >>> Phil, you didn't say which keyboard do you use and which options you >>> have tried. >>> >>> Anyway, you may look at /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst [1] >>> for options that can be used at xorg.conf for keyboards. >>> >>> And you may be interested in looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log. >>> There are many useful diagnistics at this file. >>> >>> >>>>>> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> If you don't need layout switching just delete this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I guess I wasn't clear. Toggling was meant to mean switching back and >>>> forth; switching - just once. I would like to use switching but it seems >>>> to only work one way. Can't switch back. rtAlt switches from us to the >>>> ca (which oddly seems to mean French, but nothing to do with Canadian or >>>> French Canadian. Only fluxbox brings it back and then rtAlt no longer >>>> works. Weird. >>>> Any idea where the documentation is for this? >>>> The man page is rather foggy and has no mention of XkbOptions or >>>> XkbLayout or anything about "grp:toggle" >>>> >>>> >>> Looking at [1] should help. >>> >>> >>> HTH & WBR >>> >>> >> Hi, Boris, >> Thanks much for your input. I looked at all the possibilities, like the >> profile, login.conf files, logs, google and have finally configured all >> as I like. Everything works fine... >> EXCEPT - it is impossible to install a French-Canadian keyboard/keymap >> (without creating one - and I'm not about to get into that) on xorg >> (with fluxbox as wm) >> As I just responded to Tijl Goosemans, the true French Canadian keyboard >> produces the most common accented characters with one keystroke; the >> French or old Fr-Canadian uses 2 keystrokes. I can assure you because I >> > > Does that mead that your keyboard is not shown at wiki [2]? > > >> am typing on that keyboard right now. I switch between us & fr_ca with >> ShiftAlt. the key to the right of the p/P key is used to create the >> circumfex (lowercase) in conjunction with a vowel or umlaut (uppercase). >> > > Did you look at [1]? There are some tree variants for canadian > multilingual keyboards: multix, multi, multi-2gr. May be this > may help you. > > >> In Xorg, the toggle/switching is set with Option "XkbOptions" >> "grp:alt_shift_toggle" or just alt or shift, I think. Also you can list >> several languages, like "us,ru,es,fr" and switch from one to the next >> (haven't tried, but I think it works); and "CoreKeyboard" must have a >> boolean option set - either yes or no - "yes" works for me. I suppose >> you could enter true/false, but I haven't tried. No need. >> > > BTW, may be another mail list (x11@) may give you some more > experienced eyes to help you. > > > WBR > The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech I am using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us & canadian multi. But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us for switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the keys should be set to nodeadkeys. But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on this as is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that the ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well. Oh, BTW, I have not been able to find any source of specific information about all the allowed configuration options for the xorg keyboard setup. One would think that the man page would have it all, but nope. -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 14:12:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D45A1065676 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 14:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seurbors@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f171.google.com (mail-ew0-f171.google.com [209.85.219.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4318FC2A for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 14:12:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seurbors@gmail.com) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so2360917ewy.43 for ; Fri, 01 May 2009 07:12:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=L1z1KHXQRujsWFqdp5ARoZJF+0kkrOcj+Pc0pvfYzNg=; b=HbD+IrgeoN88DmZUfa+R2+XYnz6nO7s1IatFBdXncwwIEURjT9jPz95S5ZXzQKf9oO jM6VNq1EQapEt8hRiBuab3SJrbW/Y2rO4S+x5TS7060Q+AhnlA73ftGkqu1kiN++cG/5 vY5wlk1EyfezrHv7pV7zKD4ihxZ09kWpq4Veo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vFwf8yw1b+3Xa9PP7zBeVyC/jfUWuE+PnYKGoTawaaF17+sn0FgP5XJF+K0POy1WFO w7+0Hgk38qdjOxJHoxDXzh/vyPsUah/R+HkhWGt1pzym9h/CRnRSyC6SYMSghbDu4row IVqoAx9EE/10EVJwM3mjLFF3C/cgN1fKJk8Sg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.34.5 with SMTP id h5mr2940498ebh.95.1241187170303; Fri, 01 May 2009 07:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:12:50 -0400 Message-ID: <26b281ee0905010712n67847ad9v3cd47d85fc34974d@mail.gmail.com> From: Seur Bors To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: kernel errors - watchdog timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 14:12:53 -0000 Greetings, I'm constantly getting the following repeated in my /var/log/messages: kernel: re0: watchdog timeout kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN kernel: re0: link state changed to UP This was happening right from the get-go on new hardware running 7.1-Release-p4, but only happened infrequently. Apparently as well, although everything seems to be working, the server seems to be responding very sluggish (over 10 minutes to work with a 1MB file through a Samba share, no exageration on the time). Can someone point me to required reading for these types of networking errors? Thanks in advance! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 14:17:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CC5106566C for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 14:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FFE8FC19 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 14:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AggGADuh+klR9TSA/2dsb2JhbACBUM4og38F Received: from 128.52-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.kotnet.org) ([81.245.52.128]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 01 May 2009 16:17:17 +0200 Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n41EHHYJ022363; Fri, 1 May 2009 16:17:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, PJ Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 16:17:15 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <24851107@bb.ipt.ru> <49FAFFCF.9060702@videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <49FAFFCF.9060702@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 14:17:20 -0000 On Friday 01 May 2009 15:57:35 PJ wrote: > The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech I > am using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us & canadian > multi. > But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us > for switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the > keys should be set to nodeadkeys. > But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on this > as is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that the > ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well. I just tried ca(multi) under fluxbox and it just works. What version of Xorg do you have (output of "X -version")? And what is the output of "grep xkb_symbols /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ca"? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 14:41:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C83A1065676 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 14:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E5E8FC18 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 14:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIY00FK1ZFW4C20@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 May 2009 10:40:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49FB0A30.1000309@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 10:41:52 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: Tijl Coosemans References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <24851107@bb.ipt.ru> <49FAFFCF.9060702@videotron.ca> <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org> In-reply-to: <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 14:41:57 -0000 Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Friday 01 May 2009 15:57:35 PJ wrote: > >> The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech I >> am using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us & canadian >> multi. >> But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us >> for switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the >> keys should be set to nodeadkeys. >> But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on this >> as is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that the >> ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well. >> > > I just tried ca(multi) under fluxbox and it just works. What version of > Xorg do you have (output of "X -version")? And what is the output of > "grep xkb_symbols /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ca"? > > Version 1.6 buit 13 April 2009 symbols/ca = "multi", "multix', "multi-2gr", "fr", & a few others You'd think it would work... Doesn't make sense. -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 15:18:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00BB1065674 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 15:18:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0808FC13 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 15:18:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugEAEuv+klR9TSA/2dsb2JhbACBUM4mg30F Received: from 128.52-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.kotnet.org) ([81.245.52.128]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 01 May 2009 17:18:25 +0200 Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n41FHpVg022920; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:17:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 17:17:49 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49FB0A30.1000309@videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <49FB0A30.1000309@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905011717.50896.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 15:18:27 -0000 On Friday 01 May 2009 16:41:52 PJ wrote: > Tijl Coosemans wrote: >> On Friday 01 May 2009 15:57:35 PJ wrote: >>> The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech >>> I am using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us & >>> canadian multi. >>> But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us >>> for switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the >>> keys should be set to nodeadkeys. >>> But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on >>> this as is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that >>> the ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well. >> >> I just tried ca(multi) under fluxbox and it just works. What version >> of Xorg do you have (output of "X -version")? And what is the output >> of "grep xkb_symbols /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ca"? > > Version 1.6 buit 13 April 2009 > symbols/ca = "multi", "multix', "multi-2gr", "fr", & a few others > You'd think it would work... > Doesn't make sense. Have you tried running "setxkbmap ca multi"? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 15:34:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FB91065676 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 15:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1A98FC24 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 15:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR004.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIZ006NE1X4SCI0@VL-MO-MR004.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 May 2009 11:34:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49FB167B.3060104@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 11:34:19 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: Tijl Coosemans References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <24851107@bb.ipt.ru> <49FAFFCF.9060702@videotron.ca> <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org> In-reply-to: <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 15:34:18 -0000 Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Friday 01 May 2009 15:57:35 PJ wrote: >> The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech I >> am using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us & canadian >> multi. >> But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us >> for switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the >> keys should be set to nodeadkeys. >> But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on this >> as is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that the >> ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well. > > I just tried ca(multi) under fluxbox and it just works. What version of > Xorg do you have (output of "X -version")? And what is the output of > "grep xkb_symbols /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ca"? > Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "CoreKeyboard" "yes" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca(multi)" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle" Option "CustomKeycodes" "on" EndSection ====from log: (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" (**) Keyboard0: always reports core events (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca(multi)" (**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "us,ca(multi)" (**) Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle" (**) Keyboard0: XkbOptions: "grp:alt_shift_toggle" (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "on" (**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes enabled (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD) (II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard (**) AT Keyboard: always reports core events (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) AT Keyboard: Protocol: standard (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" (**) AT Keyboard: XkbRules: "xorg" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) AT Keyboard: XkbModel: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) AT Keyboard: XkbLayout: "us" (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" (**) AT Keyboard: CustomKeycodes disabled (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD) ==== Any idea if "CustomKeycodes" should be used? Strange that it looks like its off for one (which one} I added this but I have no idea where or if it should be used. Had no effect, anyway. The switch works but the ca(multi) just does not. Or do we have to set up a another keyboard like Keyboard1 ? I'm lost. -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 15:35:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9D0106568A for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 15:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD548FC26 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 15:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n3U7qom8069070 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:52:50 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n3U7tHmJ090473; Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:55:17 +0700 (ICT) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:55:17 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200904300755.n3U7tHmJ090473@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Xdvi with amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 15:35:22 -0000 Hi, Is there known issue with the port of Xdvi (/usr/ports/print/xdvi) on 6.4 amd64? I suspect there is a problem with the size of the int/short/long as Xdvi detects wrong number of bits in some font files, while these same font files are used without problem by other ports and are identical to font files generated in x86 system. Is there an option to compile a port in strict 32 bits mode? TIA Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 15:59:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B7C1065672 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 15:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D90B8FC14 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 15:59:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Lzv9X-000JTu-Mj; Fri, 01 May 2009 19:59:55 +0400 To: PJ References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <24851107@bb.ipt.ru> <49FAFFCF.9060702@videotron.ca> <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49FB167B.3060104@videotron.ca> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 19:59:55 +0400 In-Reply-To: <49FB167B.3060104@videotron.ca> (PJ's message of "Fri\, 01 May 2009 11\:34\:19 -0400") Message-ID: <12361812@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 15:59:58 -0000 On Fri, 01 May 2009 11:34:19 -0400 PJ wrote: > Tijl Coosemans wrote: > > On Friday 01 May 2009 15:57:35 PJ wrote: > >> The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech I > >> am using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us & canadian > >> multi. > >> But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us > >> for switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the > >> keys should be set to nodeadkeys. > >> But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on this > >> as is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that the > >> ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well. > > > > I just tried ca(multi) under fluxbox and it just works. What version of > > Xorg do you have (output of "X -version")? And what is the output of > > "grep xkb_symbols /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ca"? > > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" So you don't want to use hal... > EndSection > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > Option "CoreKeyboard" "yes" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca(multi)" > Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle" > Option "CustomKeycodes" "on" > EndSection > ====from log: > (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" > (**) Keyboard0: always reports core events > (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" > (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard > (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" > (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg" > (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > (**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc105" > (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca(multi)" > (**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "us,ca(multi)" > (**) Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle" > (**) Keyboard0: XkbOptions: "grp:alt_shift_toggle" > (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "on" > (**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes enabled > (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD) > (II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard > (**) AT Keyboard: always reports core events > (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" > (**) AT Keyboard: Protocol: standard > (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" > (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > (**) AT Keyboard: XkbRules: "xorg" > (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > (**) AT Keyboard: XkbModel: "pc105" > (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" > (**) AT Keyboard: XkbLayout: "us" > (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" > (**) AT Keyboard: CustomKeycodes disabled > (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD) I'm not an expert in hal, but seems that hal is used. May be disabling hal helps? > ==== > Any idea if "CustomKeycodes" should be used? Strange that it looks like > its off for one (which one} I added this but I have no idea where or if > it should be used. Had no effect, anyway. The switch works but the > ca(multi) just does not. > Or do we have to set up a another keyboard like Keyboard1 ? I'm lost. If you want to use hal (and configure your kdb via hal) then you may be interested in: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2009-April/008185.html WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 16:41:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BB8106566C for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 16:41:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351A98FC18 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 16:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LzvnY-00089G-CE; Fri, 01 May 2009 17:41:16 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n41GfF7C020609; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:41:15 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 66B8FFCA699; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:41:10 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 17:41:10 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: PJ Message-ID: <20090501164110.GA44753@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F85422.20403@videotron.ca> <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Fri, 01 May 2009 17:41:15 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 16:41:21 -0000 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 04:04:34PM -0400, PJ wrote: > [snip] > > > > > Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY > > If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be set > > to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or > > "ca(fr)". > > This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything > that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which is > rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get the > accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's just a pita. To some extent it depends what applications you use. I use vim & LaTeX. In vim I can get digraphs for email etc. :help dig For hardcopy I use LaTeX for some Finnish and, for example, umlauts are \"{o} etc. So basically I don't need a foreign keyboard because my applications sort that out for me. I'd recommend using applications that don't need digraphs entering from the keyboard. > > > >> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle" > > > > If you don't need layout switching just delete this. > I guess I wasn't clear. Toggling was meant to mean switching back and > forth; switching - just once. I would like to use switching but it seems > to only work one way. Can't switch back. rtAlt switches from us to the > ca (which oddly seems to mean French, but nothing to do with Canadian or > French Canadian. Only fluxbox brings it back and then rtAlt no longer > works. Weird. > Any idea where the documentation is for this? Check out ~/.fluxbox/keys and that it's not interfering. There's a manpage for it: fluxbox-keys(5) > The man page is rather foggy and has no mention of XkbOptions or > XkbLayout or anything about "grp:toggle" The X docs are a disgrace IMHO. Where are the docs about the new options such as dontZap etc? They don't seem to exist. [snip] Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 17:07:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577D1106566C for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273C38FC16 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n41H7M6b021540 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 12:07:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <21538.1241197642.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 12:07:22 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 17:07:36 -0000 Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we are back where we started. If you do not have hot-swappable drives which we mostly do not, What is the best way to restore the full system? Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode? The idea would be to boot the CDROM, go in to rescue mode, mount the new drive which may be blank right now, and then use restore based on the last dump of the system we are trying to revive. Thanks. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 17:16:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0742106564A for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C555A8FC23 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIZ000CZ6MZ1W20@VL-MO-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 May 2009 13:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49FB2E5E.9090707@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:16:14 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F85422.20403@videotron.ca> <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> <20090501164110.GA44753@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-reply-to: <20090501164110.GA44753@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Cc: Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 17:16:29 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 04:04:34PM -0400, PJ wrote: > > [snip] > >>> Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY >>> If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be set >>> to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or >>> "ca(fr)". >>> >> This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything >> that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which is >> rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get the >> accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's just a pita. >> > > To some extent it depends what applications you use. I use vim & > LaTeX. > > In vim I can get digraphs for email etc. :help dig > > For hardcopy I use LaTeX for some Finnish and, for example, umlauts are > \"{o} etc. > > So basically I don't need a foreign keyboard because my applications > sort that out for me. I'd recommend using applications that don't need > digraphs entering from the keyboard. > > >>>> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle" >>>> >>> If you don't need layout switching just delete this. >>> >> I guess I wasn't clear. Toggling was meant to mean switching back and >> forth; switching - just once. I would like to use switching but it seems >> to only work one way. Can't switch back. rtAlt switches from us to the >> ca (which oddly seems to mean French, but nothing to do with Canadian or >> French Canadian. Only fluxbox brings it back and then rtAlt no longer >> works. Weird. >> Any idea where the documentation is for this? >> > > Check out ~/.fluxbox/keys and that it's not interfering. There's a > manpage for it: fluxbox-keys(5) > > >> The man page is rather foggy and has no mention of XkbOptions or >> XkbLayout or anything about "grp:toggle" >> > > The X docs are a disgrace IMHO. Where are the docs about the new > options such as dontZap etc? They don't seem to exist. > > [snip] > > Regards, > > Glad to hear I'm not the only one complaining about documentation. The language use is not a question of applications but of text - I don't have problems in any of my applications in entereing the language text except on xorg. I can manage it with the current setup, but I just find it strange that I cannot get the ca(multi) functioning correctly. Could it be a question of the physical keyboard? I haven't yet tried this one that works correctly on the FreeBSD machine, but that's next. On the FreeBSD the ca(multi) does function with multiple accents like the umlaut - with two keypresses - but on this XP box, the multi gives me one-stroke accents for the French Canadian accents, upper as well as lower case except for the ^ caret. I rather doubt that Tijl Goosemans has enabled the same capabilities for his *nix or FBSD box as I have on my XP; otherwise I would have had that done long ago. As I said before, I can set up the ca(multi) but it's just not the right one. Just for laughs, I'm going to try this keyboard on FreeBSD and see what happens. -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 17:21:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14ECA1065676 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (81-178-20-70.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E9C8FC20 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: (qmail 1507 invoked by uid 98); 1 May 2009 18:22:03 +0100 Received: from 192.168.0.2 by polaris.lerwick.hopto.org (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/1789. hbedv: 7.1.1.11/6.35.1.178. f-prot: 4.6.6/3.16.14. spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:RC:1(192.168.0.2):. Processed in 3.48928 secs); 01 May 2009 17:22:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (192.168.0.2) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 1 May 2009 18:21:59 +0100 From: Craig Butler To: Martin McCormick In-Reply-To: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 18:21:06 +0100 Message-Id: <1241198466.19500.8.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 17:21:58 -0000 Bacula is your friend, tried and tested http://www.bacula.org/en/dev-manual/Disast_Recove_Using_Bacula.html#SECTION0043150000000000000000 /Craig On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 12:07 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it > vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD > installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also > need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we > are back where we started. If you do not have hot-swappable > drives which we mostly do not, What is the best way to restore > the full system? > > Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode? > The idea would be to boot the CDROM, go in to rescue mode, mount > the new drive which may be blank right now, and then use restore > based on the last dump of the system we are trying to revive. > > Thanks. > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > Systems Engineer > OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 17:24:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014C21065688 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF7D8FC2F for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:24:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIZ002VX700QME0@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 May 2009 13:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49FB3034.3060403@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:24:04 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: Boris Samorodov References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <24851107@bb.ipt.ru> <49FAFFCF.9060702@videotron.ca> <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49FB167B.3060104@videotron.ca> <12361812@bb.ipt.ru> In-reply-to: <12361812@bb.ipt.ru> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 17:24:02 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Fri, 01 May 2009 11:34:19 -0400 PJ wrote: > >> Tijl Coosemans wrote: >> >>> On Friday 01 May 2009 15:57:35 PJ wrote: >>> >>>> The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech I >>>> am using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us & canadian >>>> multi. >>>> But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us >>>> for switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the >>>> keys should be set to nodeadkeys. >>>> But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on this >>>> as is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that the >>>> ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well. >>>> >>> I just tried ca(multi) under fluxbox and it just works. What version of >>> Xorg do you have (output of "X -version")? And what is the output of >>> "grep xkb_symbols /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ca"? >>> >>> >> Section "ServerLayout" >> Identifier "X.org Configured" >> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" >> > > So you don't want to use hal... > > >> EndSection >> Section "InputDevice" >> Identifier "Keyboard0" >> Driver "kbd" >> Option "CoreKeyboard" "yes" >> Option "XkbModel" "pc105" >> Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca(multi)" >> Option "XkbRules" "xorg" >> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle" >> Option "CustomKeycodes" "on" >> EndSection >> ====from log: >> (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" >> (**) Keyboard0: always reports core events >> (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" >> (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard >> (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" >> (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" >> (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg" >> (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" >> (**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc105" >> (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca(multi)" >> (**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "us,ca(multi)" >> (**) Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle" >> (**) Keyboard0: XkbOptions: "grp:alt_shift_toggle" >> (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "on" >> (**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes enabled >> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD) >> (II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard >> (**) AT Keyboard: always reports core events >> (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" >> (**) AT Keyboard: Protocol: standard >> (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" >> (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" >> (**) AT Keyboard: XkbRules: "xorg" >> (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" >> (**) AT Keyboard: XkbModel: "pc105" >> (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" >> (**) AT Keyboard: XkbLayout: "us" >> (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" >> (**) AT Keyboard: CustomKeycodes disabled >> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD) >> > > I'm not an expert in hal, but seems that hal is used. > May be disabling hal helps? > > >> ==== >> Any idea if "CustomKeycodes" should be used? Strange that it looks like >> its off for one (which one} I added this but I have no idea where or if >> it should be used. Had no effect, anyway. The switch works but the >> ca(multi) just does not. >> Or do we have to set up a another keyboard like Keyboard1 ? I'm lost. >> > > If you want to use hal (and configure your kdb via hal) then you may be > interested in: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2009-April/008185.html > > > WBR > Don't trust it. Too complicated. ;-) -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 17:28:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC45106566B for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:28:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4B58FC08 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:28:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-27-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.27.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0927B3C909; Fri, 1 May 2009 19:28:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n41HSa5t002517; Fri, 1 May 2009 19:28:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:28:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Martin McCormick Message-Id: <20090501192836.4203a5d2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 17:28:44 -0000 On Fri, 01 May 2009 12:07:22 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode? Yes, you can. The only thing you have to ensure is that you have a means to access the dump files, for example via network or from optical media (DVD). A bit more comfortable is the use of a live file system such as FreeSBIE. > The idea would be to boot the CDROM, go in to rescue mode, mount > the new drive which may be blank right now, and then use restore > based on the last dump of the system we are trying to revive. I'd suggest to use FreeBSD's sysinstall to make the new disk bootable, i. e. create slices, create partitions, format them. If you've done this correctly, you can easily use restore to read in the dump files and put their contents back on the respective partitions (from where they have been created). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 17:37:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963AE1065672 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9148FC08 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KIZ007KY7N05PM0@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 May 2009 13:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49FB3370.8070807@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 13:37:52 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: Tijl Coosemans References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49FB0A30.1000309@videotron.ca> <200905011717.50896.tijl@ulyssis.org> In-reply-to: <200905011717.50896.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching - SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 17:37:49 -0000 Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Friday 01 May 2009 16:41:52 PJ wrote: > >> Tijl Coosemans wrote: >> >>> On Friday 01 May 2009 15:57:35 PJ wrote: >>> >>>> The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech >>>> I am using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us & >>>> canadian multi. >>>> But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us >>>> for switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the >>>> keys should be set to nodeadkeys. >>>> But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on >>>> this as is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that >>>> the ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well. >>>> >>> I just tried ca(multi) under fluxbox and it just works. What version >>> of Xorg do you have (output of "X -version")? And what is the output >>> of "grep xkb_symbols /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ca"? >>> >> Version 1.6 buit 13 April 2009 >> symbols/ca = "multi", "multix', "multi-2gr", "fr", & a few others >> You'd think it would work... >> Doesn't make sense. >> > > Have you tried running "setxkbmap ca multi"? > > Now, here's the weird stuff - ca multi works in Firefox... but not in xterm so, the keyboard has to be set from fluxbox... works fine in Inkscape, gnucash, abacus, so the real problem is in xterm - and that is totally unimportant as long as good ol' English works it it. -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 17:59:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9586A1065687 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD5E8FC15 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 17:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n41HxIsZ055125; Fri, 1 May 2009 11:59:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n41HxImD055122; Fri, 1 May 2009 11:59:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:59:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Martin McCormick In-Reply-To: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Message-ID: References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 May 2009 11:59:18 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 17:59:25 -0000 On Fri, 1 May 2009, Martin McCormick wrote: > Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it > vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD > installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also > need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we > are back where we started. If you do not have hot-swappable > drives which we mostly do not, What is the best way to restore > the full system? > > Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode? > The idea would be to boot the CDROM, go in to rescue mode, mount > the new drive which may be blank right now, and then use restore > based on the last dump of the system we are trying to revive. I've had success doing a minimal install from CD, booting from the new drive, and then restoring dumpfiles right over it. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 18:36:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 008F4106566C for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 18:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9ACE8FC17 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 18:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so5118477qyk.3 for ; Fri, 01 May 2009 11:36:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rHu5I203ay2SJPsFtQH0LfWrVuVq1OH2HcCyXixdxB4=; b=AYk7X2BBi/GSRI+f+/xL4ZxpLoEsCFPgQvAspmaz5jrISMvh+ffSBFg+KfL4+B28h5 VCUw70KqpB/34Pwg3oTfIjk8urBA558+T9m+v6Hxwezc0lw28/1tZLgmiTTAC1jUTO4M 2/P5HUJ8o7pzSQzCXVAkFKdCi56T8ZBgKxDu0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BK+QEMqxdavxAyAhPOHYwxbuDvSkOhlKZEK17GAv4W0PYjE0geffB9ChCqv5917nHd fWHZTJ2jvmVbuDb6OfpoW9vQmCRaJkYubHbPLC1UlrrIGSZUzk0bUiCzkzXIwCvzyrP/ aD97vKIbq0mss24XFkLG0gX49XlM5W/HaSSGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.110.16 with SMTP id l16mr2398040qcp.92.1241202974153; Fri, 01 May 2009 11:36:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <58d1e8d30905010835v5b474297q38e180fc43d444fc@mail.gmail.com> References: <58d1e8d30904302103k34fcc372v31ca0e5b1d698934@mail.gmail.com> <58d1e8d30905010835v5b474297q38e180fc43d444fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:36:14 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Bob Falanga , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: where do I find libthr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 18:36:15 -0000 2009/5/1 Bob Falanga : > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:30 AM, illoai@gmail.com wrote= : >> >> 2009/5/1 Bob Falanga : >> > I am using pcbsd 6.3 >> > When I try to use apache22 or kdesvn I get an error message (Shared >> > object >> > "libthr.so.3" not found, required by "libapr-1.so.2") >> > >> >> What d'ya get when you type: >> locate libthr.so >> >> Also, how did you install apache22 or kdesvn? >> > When I try locate libthr I get=A0 (locate: database too small: > /var/db/locate.database) > I used make install clean=A0 to install apache22 & kdesvn. > (please include the list in your email) To rebuild your locate database, just run /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate It makes finding files much easier. After a bit of poking, it seems that 6.3 has /lib/libthr.so.2 You could try symlinking, but that will very likely not work. You can try reinstalling libapr, to see if it will link the older library. To find out where it reports its origin: pkg_info -o /var/db/pkg/\*libapr\* If that fails, I'm afraid you'll have to upgrade to 7.x --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 18:59:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD3E106564A for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 18:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B3F8FC13 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 18:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugEANvi+klR9TSA/2dsb2JhbACBUM45g30F Received: from 128.52-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.kotnet.org) ([81.245.52.128]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 01 May 2009 20:59:52 +0200 Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n41Ixpbf025204; Fri, 1 May 2009 20:59:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 20:59:50 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <12361812@bb.ipt.ru> <49FB3034.3060403@videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <49FB3034.3060403@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905012059.51449.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 18:59:54 -0000 On Friday 01 May 2009 19:24:04 PJ wrote: > Boris Samorodov wrote: >> On Fri, 01 May 2009 11:34:19 -0400 PJ wrote: >>> Section "ServerLayout" >>> Identifier "X.org Configured" >>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 >>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" >> >> So you don't want to use hal... You might have to add this line to the ServerLayout section: Option "AutoAddDevices" "off" Then hal won't interfere with keyboard or mouse. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 19:12:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F75106566B for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 19:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA588FC08 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 19:12:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AugEAD7l+klR9TSA/2dsb2JhbACBUM4/g30F Received: from 128.52-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.kotnet.org) ([81.245.52.128]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 01 May 2009 21:12:34 +0200 Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n41JCRCa025359; Fri, 1 May 2009 21:12:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 21:12:26 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200905011717.50896.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49FB3370.8070807@videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <49FB3370.8070807@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200905012112.27709.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: Subject: Re: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching - SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 19:12:36 -0000 On Friday 01 May 2009 19:37:52 PJ wrote: > Tijl Coosemans wrote: >> Have you tried running "setxkbmap ca multi"? > > Now, here's the weird stuff - ca multi works in Firefox... but not in > xterm so, the keyboard has to be set from fluxbox... works fine in > Inkscape, gnucash, abacus, so the real problem is in xterm - and that > is totally unimportant as long as good ol' English works it it. You probably have to set LANG. Try running "setenv LANG en_CA.ISO8859-15". If you can type accented letters then, you need to add something like this to ~/.login_conf: me:\ :charset=ISO-8859-15:\ :lang=en_CA.ISO8859-15: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 19:32:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336B5106566C for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 19:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BE68FC14 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 19:32:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n41JWFdh044389; Fri, 1 May 2009 15:32:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n41JWF1V044388; Fri, 1 May 2009 15:32:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:32:15 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Craig Butler Message-ID: <20090501193214.GA44369@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <1241198466.19500.8.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1241198466.19500.8.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Martin McCormick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 19:32:51 -0000 On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 06:21:06PM +0100, Craig Butler wrote: > Bacula is your friend, tried and tested > The guy is making nice reliable dump(8)s of his file systems. He doesn't need to waste time and energy with yet another thing. Dump and restore work just fine, are part of the system and handle situations like these most reliably.. ////jerry > http://www.bacula.org/en/dev-manual/Disast_Recove_Using_Bacula.html#SECTION0043150000000000000000 > > /Craig > > > > On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 12:07 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > > Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it > > vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD > > installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also > > need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we > > are back where we started. If you do not have hot-swappable > > drives which we mostly do not, What is the best way to restore > > the full system? > > > > Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode? > > The idea would be to boot the CDROM, go in to rescue mode, mount > > the new drive which may be blank right now, and then use restore > > based on the last dump of the system we are trying to revive. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > > Systems Engineer > > OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 20:31:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1192106566C for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 20:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6648FC0A for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 20:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so2442666bwz.43 for ; Fri, 01 May 2009 13:31:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=THGYN/VWqOSnXWAXKMj65Mboip0G1Cu/jsCrTJBi/gE=; b=LyPmanyO4mDn5hd2/nrL11qg+6JAcQafDaRb3usjIgaZTJekA0VZ39QluGDdHJfYTk BUvVXnxA9mCq9H6hghVZtf7dDXxr1sTPpI82uWWU27con9ypXFqAGn9++AH4u/Hmj99Y WPYnsUcyrLwP5rVsz379mvq/mMTu4ngEw8SMA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OPNy5H2WOs7dRMxNkiyg0JnVp8pc4SFzbFA1cYYRded5MoO4REZRA/NrHyp0Co3y6J OXW+RVKa/ngK0qzEUjFHrvOqmDlX6GFttFjPO61SfEAlGKPosPWIx2ololuWp+n9z4cZ yEQoBy+ctPrA6Qnv6vMVjnrvHiUW16ZUNC9sQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.100.201 with SMTP id z9mr2890138bkn.168.1241209872522; Fri, 01 May 2009 13:31:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F97FA2.8040003@maydias.com> References: <49F97FA2.8040003@maydias.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:31:12 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cant connect to SVN server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 20:31:14 -0000 2009/4/30 Warren Liddell : > I have been trying for the last couple weeks to update my ports etc via > svn but each time i try i get the below msg, im running latest updated > ports atm via csup on a FREEBSD7.1-STABLE AMD64 system.. > > > enterprise# svn up /usr/area51 > svn: OPTIONS of 'https://kf.athame.co.uk/kde-freebsd/trunk/area51': > could not connect to server (https://kf.athame.co.uk) You are probably looking for this information: http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2009/03/area51-repository-moved-to-pcbsd/ But I think you get only KDE ports (testing) from Area51. - Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 20:44:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE367106564A for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 20:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83398FC0C for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 20:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n41Khpm0044591; Fri, 1 May 2009 16:43:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n41KhpKX044590; Fri, 1 May 2009 16:43:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 16:43:51 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Martin McCormick Message-ID: <20090501204351.GB44369@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 20:44:27 -0000 On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 12:07:22PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it > vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD > installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also > need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we > are back where we started. If you do not have hot-swappable > drives which we mostly do not, What is the best way to restore > the full system? > > Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode? > The idea would be to boot the CDROM, go in to rescue mode, mount > the new drive which may be blank right now, and then use restore > based on the last dump of the system we are trying to revive. Yes. By the way, dump/restore are the best for backup/recovery because they handle the odd situations best - such as you replace the old failed disk with a newer either larger or smaller (but still big enough to hold everything) disk. Other utilities cannot handle that gracefully. Dump/restore does. There are a few other odd cases as well. I think you want what is called 'fixit' mode. You can select that when you boot from it. I am not absolutely sure all sets of disks are populated identically. Check now that your CD has the fixit and if it is on a different image, download that one, burn it and stash it somewhere safe. What you want to do is use the fixit image to set up the disk. That means fdisk and bsdlabel and newfs it. You can actually use sysinstall to do this as well. Just let the installer come up and do the disk stuff, choose minimal install and then after it finishes making the disks, kill the rest of the install (or just let it finish and then overwrite it. But, I find it actually easier to do the fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs-s myself. But, then I am used to it. Right after you get done making sure where your fixit is living, then use fdisk and bsdlabel to check for the way you have the disk set up currently. Write it down or print it out and keep it near that installation/fixit disk. If you do fdisk ad0 or fdisk da0 (depending on IDE/SATA or SCSI/SAS respectively) without any other parameters, it will print out what it thinks the disk is currently like. Of course, if it is other than disk 0, use the correct number. Then do a similar thing with bsdlabel. bsdlabel -e ad0s1 or bsdlabel da0s1. If you have more than one slice and FreeBSD is not on slice 1, then use the correct slice identifier here. So, if it is the second SATA drive and the third slice on it that might look like bsdlabel -e ad1s3. Note that drives number from 0, but slices number from 1. Anyway, then copy the information it shows in the table down or print it out. Ignore the stuff on top - anything above where it says: '8 partitions:' You are just interested in the partition identifiers and the sizes and offsets, types and the fsize, bsize and bps/cpg. Actually, you can normally just take whatever defaults it gives you for fsize, bsize and bps/cpg unless you are doing something extra exotic. Then just get out of the edit session without writing/saving. just type ESC :q! Those numbers don't have to be the exact same on the new disk and probably will not be, but you will want to have the information handy rather than have to recalculate it at a bad time. NOTE, I am mostly writing this presuming that you have the machine only running FreeBSD. If you have it dual booted, you will want the information on the other OS slices too. fdisk will give you what you need to know. The FreeBSD fdisk is smart enough to report on all slices -(what MS calls primary partitions) even if they are not FreeBSD slices. It does not report on extended partitions, but it does not need to. You only need to know about the primaries/slices. You let those other OSen deal with 'extended' stuff. If you have an MS or Lunix OS on it, then those should be put back first. Whatever you did to divide the old disk will have to be done to make the slices on the new disk. Maybe Partition Magic or Gparted was used. Once you have it divided in those major divisions (slices/primary partitions) then use fdisk to make at least the FreeBSD slice boodable. Those other OSen will probably take care of it for theirs. The easy thing is if the whole disk is being used by FreeBSD. Then just do: fdisk -BI da0 That will make the whole disk FreeBSD and bootable. Then do two bsdlabels. The first sets up the label and the second edits it to have the partitions you want. bsdlabel -w -B da0s1 bsdlabel -e da0s1 You will see an edit session about like the one you saw when you collected the information to stash away, except it will only show a 'c' partition. Leave that c partition alone, but make the other ones similar to what you had on the old disk. You only need to put in the '0' value for the offset on the first (a) partition and then put '*' in for the rest of the offsets. Make the rest of the sizes what you want - remember the values are in 512 byte block numbers by default. That can be changed, but just learn to use the blocks. The number of blocks should come out to be good round multiples of powers of 2. So for 500 Megabytes, use 512*1024*1024 bytes - which is 1024*1024 blocks, etc. For the last partition, use '*' for the size as well as the offset and it will put all the remaining usable space in that partition. Do the ESC :wq to get out of the edit session and write the table back. Now all you have to do is newfs each partition. Just take the defaults. Remember that newfs wants the full device spec, not just the drive identifier. newfs /dev/da0s1a newfs /dev/da0s1d newfs /dev/da0s1e etc Do not newfs the swat partition. Now make mount points such as mkdir /newroot mkdir /newusr etc for whatever you need Then mount the partitions mkdir /dev/da0s1a /newroot mkdir /dev/da0s1e /newusr etc NOTE, that it is very unusual to restore /tmp - not necessary. Then do the restores from whatever media they are on. cd /newroot restore -r /dev/nsa0 If it is on tape. If it is on another disk, such as a large external USB, you will need to find out its device name, mount it and restore from there. mkdir /usbbak mount /dev/da1s1a /usbbak cd /newroot restore -r /usbbak/rootbak or whatever you named it. Do that for each backed up file system and then reboot. Should work jsut fine. ////jerry > > Thanks. > > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK > Systems Engineer > OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 20:45:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EED110656A3 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 20:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mail.gmx.com (unknown [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC6FC8FC23 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 20:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 May 2009 20:45:01 -0000 Received: from ipa27.67.107.79.tellas.gr (EHLO [169.254.0.4]) [79.107.67.27] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu001) with SMTP; 01 May 2009 22:45:01 +0200 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19UEPAZUBVUmK+nH1wpzPZZy4DzLzhZ6Rz7WWgBNe lgpJSYw5lvBUir Message-ID: <49FB5F2C.6080502@gmx.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 23:44:28 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastiaan van Erk References: <49F81FF2.3040302@sebster.com> <1240999037.2645.3.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <49F8269E.2010201@sebster.com> <49F89FE1.6070807@freemail.gr> <49F8CC51.2030203@sebster.com> <49F94E25.6000900@gmx.com> <49FAAF1C.6040802@sebster.com> In-Reply-To: <49FAAF1C.6040802@sebster.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.66 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: CARP & bridge X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 20:45:04 -0000 Hi, Sebastiaan van Erk wrote: > So I don't really *NEED* the CARP ip address over the bridge (the static > arp works, so I have a working solution, albeit an ugly one; an ARP > request generates a reply from every member of the redundant cluster). Just a guess, you could try adding the VIP/32 to the tap interface, instead of the static arp thing. Don't know if it will work, it is just a guess, which looks - to me - like a cleaner configuration. At least it's rc.conf friendly. Just my 0.000000002 euros, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 20:49:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74831065676 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 20:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nslay@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999928FC22 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 20:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nslay@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mAFF1b0040ldTLk59Lc7Ej; Fri, 01 May 2009 20:36:07 +0000 Received: from LIGHTBULB.LOCAL ([68.35.224.189]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mLc51b00A45o48c3QLc6Uw; Fri, 01 May 2009 20:36:07 +0000 Message-ID: <49FB5CDF.80100@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 16:34:39 -0400 From: Nathan Lay User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090406) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: install -s X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 20:49:27 -0000 Should install -s really fail if strip fails? I noticed cross-binutils strips everything it installs...in my case, one of the utilities it tries to strip is a script and install -s obnoxiously fails. I set DONTSTRIP to get around this problem. For a point of reference, I'm running a recent 7-STABLE. Best Regards, Nathan Lay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 20:50:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697C510656DD for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 20:50:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (81-178-20-70.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F368FC2C for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 20:50:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: (qmail 35171 invoked by uid 98); 1 May 2009 21:50:22 +0100 Received: from 10.0.0.1 by polaris.lerwick.hopto.org (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/1789. hbedv: 7.1.1.11/6.35.1.178. f-prot: 4.6.6/3.16.14. spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:RC:1(10.0.0.1):. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 20:50:16 -0000 > On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 06:21:06PM +0100, Craig Butler wrote: > >> Bacula is your friend, tried and tested >> > > The guy is making nice reliable dump(8)s of his file systems. > He doesn't need to waste time and energy with yet another thing. > > Dump and restore work just fine, are part of the system and > handle situations like these most reliably.. > > ////jerry Sorry I just skip read it, wasn't sure he was using dump, but agreed dump/restore easy peasy, included and quick. > > >> http://www.bacula.org/en/dev-manual/Disast_Recove_Using_Bacula.html#SECTION0043150000000000000000 >> >> /Craig >> >> >> >> On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 12:07 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: >> > Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it >> > vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD >> > installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also >> > need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we >> > are back where we started. If you do not have hot-swappable >> > drives which we mostly do not, What is the best way to restore >> > the full system? >> > >> > Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode? >> > The idea would be to boot the CDROM, go in to rescue mode, mount >> > the new drive which may be blank right now, and then use restore >> > based on the last dump of the system we are trying to revive. >> > >> > Thanks. >> > >> > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK >> > Systems Engineer >> > OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 20:51:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3969B106570A for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 20:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E761B8FC29 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 20:51:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1604323yxb.13 for ; Fri, 01 May 2009 13:51:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yM4f5oAW5HxmKdzZvnAzprKCq4B6QWwwTFBk5idHvYk=; b=Le8tgo48Fj+e7zol8m3QFQGE7Qzq1VvfeY167kuM8aiaDFEnR6QlQDFMv+USv7A/7s ZOOztHkSW3RwEUp4kfGdZZ3LkAfg0lxfI14Saa95ofe14h6x08gPMzovQvmlhzl22Fr/ EmuHgqdFffw9f1kv/dFoM81VuGEpDJ6axE3OE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=l5OVfdhCjb9Hz/EHN7Y6DFWIq8k2DhG9UPQGpy2bQy0fNaD2WCc9aZGAU9NfPLXVKg Ibk1dlGNDG+D1PhjlO/QibtEPqdgV8ochSk/8rUdC4Ppru1Ydjnw/WquIeuB4N1yQVXk NI8Uf5ghfg7nk6mt/L2FVeoXuE+RJ3h0h1Ng0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.126.19 with SMTP id y19mr6817750anc.46.1241211086129; Fri, 01 May 2009 13:51:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49F97FA2.8040003@maydias.com> References: <49F97FA2.8040003@maydias.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 16:51:26 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310905011351h747ae9c5v76f3e0bba2c8ae2a@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Warren Liddell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cant connect to SVN server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 20:51:27 -0000 On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Warren Liddell wrote: > I have been trying for the last couple weeks to update my ports etc via > svn but each time i try i get the below msg, im running latest updated > ports atm via csup on a FREEBSD7.1-STABLE AMD64 system.. > > > enterprise# svn up /usr/area51 > svn: OPTIONS of 'https://kf.athame.co.uk/kde-freebsd/trunk/area51': > could not connect to server (https://kf.athame.co.uk) > I had already answered this question a few days ago -- but here it is again. According to a recent post [1], the SVN server has changed [2] since March 22, 2009. [1] http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2009/03/area51-repository-moved-to-pcbsd/ [2] http://area51.pcbsd.org/ -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 1 21:41:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFEB106566B for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 21:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EEA8FC22 for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 21:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D39EA90170116E; Fri, 1 May 2009 22:40:59 +0100 Message-ID: <49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 22:40:58 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul B. Mahol" References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com> <3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: ndis0 interrrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 21:41:01 -0000 Paul B. Mahol wrote: > On 4/29/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> Hi all >> >> I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54Gv5 wireless pccard working. It has a >> Marvell 8335 chip. I've created a module with ndisgen and I can see >> ndis0. When I up it with ifconfig I immediately get repeated messages: >> >> Apr 28 23:23:19 pcbsd kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; >> throttling interrupt source >> >> As soon as I down the interface the messages stop. >> >> I've also tried starting ndis0 with polling >> >> # ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.1.20 polling >> >> but still get the messages. I guess this driver doesn't support polling. >> Or I've got the syntax wrong. > > That command is not currently efective at all for ndisX(I yet have to > see if it is possible). > >> According to vmstat -i irq11 is used by cbb0 and pcm0. ndis0 is on irq9 >> >> irq9: cbb1 ndis0++ >> >> This is on PCBSD 7.1 which is FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE >> >> Any way I can get this thing working? > > Try yo disable cbbX if you dont use it or enable MSI for pcm0 (if possible). This is a pcmcia card in a laptop so cbb is needed :( There is no reference to msi in the pcm man page so I guess it is not available for this system. (Paul I saw a post from you on multimedia about msi in hdac and sure enough there is a reference to msi in snd_hda(4) man page). Am I looking in the right place? The bios is minimal so can't turn off sound or one channel of cbb. Chris > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 00:03:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91933106566B for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 00:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewdg@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337558FC15 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 00:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewdg@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1740895wfg.7 for ; Fri, 01 May 2009 17:03:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=421SVfsQnaMOEtNisaPdwnTCoFi/3EjlHRx7zTqevvI=; b=QyBru+krJMnpM7U4vWLi/HKXGbpC53CTJ0L9HSi+8xX2HJNQlOjJsXxOUcjopVNu9i GGRgQQOhjIb2+anazZevZQbQyvvmhwp8S+9Xk8hsKRWcbgN/KL3i5UcmSIV6DUqrjByH K9ev86dYqH4RiffCzz2iuy2LIFzuMdWjcnG88= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=h4ucpiPwZkIK80RAFXss2NqZOcqUl8FtkR4olSFxNaHTkdFx9svBwI2dUcoCP5sDk1 7YnRfWVBd3TBR6Kz4qxKSX+9yZGQL9N2IV+twmYs/KbpJnf836sZv/7mTthIP5AgVr/U ej5E0Us6/mUBo7b0JGV6HlrMpddqoTMEIIDE4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: andrewdg@gmail.com Received: by 10.143.6.1 with SMTP id j1mr1100301wfi.226.1241221159060; Fri, 01 May 2009 16:39:19 -0700 (PDT) From: nf Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 09:39:04 +1000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6e111905aa7e905a Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Poor ZFS performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 00:03:16 -0000 Hello! I've got a ZFS-based file server running FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE, with two raidz1's of 3 x 500gb. Recently my system has exhibited exceptionally poor performance in a way that confuses me. None of the drives are in a degraded state, and zpool iostat reports typical performance figures, while actual applications (dd, in this case) only receive data at much lower rates. My basic benchmark, and once that I'd used before, is to dd a big file and output it to /dev/null. What's occurring now is mystifying, as dd is reporting much lower figures than zpool iostat. -- nf@ice2:~>uname -a FreeBSD ice2 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #0: Sun Feb 8 20:31:17 EST 2009 root@ice2:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 nf@ice2:/media/nf/videos>dd if=sph-kingok.avi of=/dev/null 1433288+0 records in 1433288+0 records out 733843456 bytes transferred in 61.124812 secs (12005656 bytes/sec) (and, while that's running:) nf@ice2:~>sudo zpool iostat -v 2 capacity operations bandwidth pool used avail read write read write ----------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- data 1.19T 1.53T 13 29 990K 153K raidz1 1.01T 361G 9 11 641K 58.8K ad4s1d - - 3 8 283K 30.2K ad8s1d - - 3 8 282K 30.2K ad10s1d - - 3 8 284K 30.2K raidz1 191G 1.17T 4 17 349K 94.5K ad6s1d - - 1 12 138K 48.3K ad10s1e - - 1 12 134K 48.3K ad12s1d - - 2 12 141K 48.3K ----------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- capacity operations bandwidth pool used avail read write read write ----------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- data 1.19T 1.53T 1.41K 0 179M 0 raidz1 1.01T 361G 1.40K 0 179M 0 ad4s1d - - 676 0 72.1M 0 ad8s1d - - 453 0 45.1M 0 ad10s1d - - 605 0 61.7M 0 raidz1 191G 1.17T 4 0 127K 0 ad6s1d - - 0 0 49.9K 0 ad10s1e - - 1 0 74.4K 0 ad12s1d - - 1 0 92.1K 0 ----------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- capacity operations bandwidth pool used avail read write read write ----------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- data 1.19T 1.53T 1.19K 102 152M 517K raidz1 1.01T 361G 1.19K 42 152M 149K ad4s1d - - 369 16 39.2M 75.4K ad8s1d - - 436 17 48.7M 77.2K ad10s1d - - 563 19 65.3M 76.2K raidz1 191G 1.17T 5 59 116K 368K ad6s1d - - 0 32 63.9K 187K ad10s1e - - 2 34 146K 188K ad12s1d - - 1 34 114K 190K ----------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ^C -- So I presume you discount the first output of iostat as a measuring error, and interpret the subsequent outputs as cumulative over the repeat interval (in this case each two seconds). What I'm seeing is the ZFS pool being read from at 70-90mb/sec, while dd is only getting data at 12mb/sec. Where is all the data that's being read from the disk going? As I said before, on previous attempts iostat and dd reported figures that corresponded with each other. I'm not sure what's changed between those attempts. (There is nothing else reading from disk at the same time. As soon as the dd concludes, zpool iostat reports the arrays are idle.) FWIW, here's what top reports while I'm running the dd: -- CPU: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 14.3% system, 4.5% interrupt, 80.8% idle Mem: 1950M Active, 868M Inact, 537M Wired, 238M Cache, 363M Buf, 87M Free Swap: 1024M Total, 101M Used, 923M Free, 9% Inuse PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 8402 nf 1 50 0 4604K 788K zio->i 0 0:03 8.59% dd -- If anyone can shed some light on what's going on here, I'd be most appreciated. Thanks, nf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 00:11:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B421065676 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 00:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f162.google.com (mail-fx0-f162.google.com [209.85.220.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202DA8FC0C for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 00:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so2547959fxm.43 for ; Fri, 01 May 2009 17:11:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NNu40rq3Q94dxpAjB02KovjSLwcq9MRduxMGz+PLGHE=; b=TioYntxyr7UPkpCGtR6EOptWrekwMLJksVFZCFwIh3hRy79Tr+VgiIJiNDs62nRZ/z ZC2aLBMgH6VKbkAdSijCJq+ZNxi2Kx0XYDsWl37mBb1zZBk8WLixhVE4Har1+lHdcjPf gjmUfLV/vA+MLAcKDYVLBjJzAKwH4YVZXOH3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KW7BfcgUJ37lZXtOmXpgdyQsAsMMozoVmPM5F9BiRB8OebC5i//g3/RBUHDoiBLXOy xJOyJRfbREXDsv0brCQuYvGG7lCbfiHR0oZ595GkU3nNIWKOiTMNXx2VzMrgY5WgPTLt vFCKubSwGcyXbpEyi2eKvgKgQJsCi9kACrvxA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.131.143 with SMTP id 15mr172551hbn.140.1241223075113; Fri, 01 May 2009 17:11:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com> References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com> <3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com> <49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com> Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 02:11:15 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Chris Whitehouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: ndis0 interrrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 00:11:17 -0000 On 5/1/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Paul B. Mahol wrote: >> On 4/29/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >>> Hi all >>> >>> I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54Gv5 wireless pccard working. It has a >>> Marvell 8335 chip. I've created a module with ndisgen and I can see >>> ndis0. When I up it with ifconfig I immediately get repeated messages: >>> >>> Apr 28 23:23:19 pcbsd kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; >>> throttling interrupt source >>> >>> As soon as I down the interface the messages stop. >>> >>> I've also tried starting ndis0 with polling >>> >>> # ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.1.20 polling >>> >>> but still get the messages. I guess this driver doesn't support polling. >>> Or I've got the syntax wrong. >> >> That command is not currently efective at all for ndisX(I yet have to >> see if it is possible). >> >>> According to vmstat -i irq11 is used by cbb0 and pcm0. ndis0 is on irq9 >>> >>> irq9: cbb1 ndis0++ >>> >>> This is on PCBSD 7.1 which is FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE >>> >>> Any way I can get this thing working? >> >> Try yo disable cbbX if you dont use it or enable MSI for pcm0 (if >> possible). > > This is a pcmcia card in a laptop so cbb is needed :( There is no > reference to msi in the pcm man page so I guess it is not available for > this system. (Paul I saw a post from you on multimedia about msi in hdac > and sure enough there is a reference to msi in snd_hda(4) man page). Am > I looking in the right place? msi for snd_hda(if that is your sound driver) should be enabled by default on CURRENT (dunno about 7): hint.hdac.%d.msi=1 You could try to use different dev.ndis.0.InterruptNumber for ndis0. Changing it via sysctl is not supported, you will need to modify right line(s) in inf file, or in .h file generated with ndiscvt(1) via ndisgen(8) Dunno if that will work .... (never tried) -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 00:16:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FF2106566C for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 00:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@cheekymonkey.us) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B59F8FC22 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 00:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@cheekymonkey.us) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1743419wfg.7 for ; Fri, 01 May 2009 17:16:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.125.11 with SMTP id x11mr1070201wfc.40.1241221501216; Fri, 01 May 2009 16:45:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5e8ad96d0905011618x50c9466fpf6758c8ba3bee2b8@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e8ad96d0905011618x50c9466fpf6758c8ba3bee2b8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:45:00 -0400 Message-ID: <5e8ad96d0905011645s699e243bgb0a335377aef49e0@mail.gmail.com> From: Duane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 00:16:54 -0000 I have a fairly new install of 6.4, done over the 'net, on this old Micron full tower dual PPro-180. The SMP kernel was automagically installed: # uname -a FreeBSD poobah.legomenon.org 6.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov 26 12:11:16 UTC 2008 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 Performance was *rather* sluggish so I tried to ascertain if both processors were running: # dmesg | grep cpu cpu0 on motherboard Q1. Is there a better way to establish how many processors are running? Q2. Do I need to specify, say in rc.conf, that I *want* SMP to be enabled? 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Sorry about that. > > To rebuild your locate database, just run > /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate > > It makes finding files much easier. After rebuilding the locate database I get the following: [root@pcbsd /usr/ports/www/apache22]# locate libthr /compat/linux/lib/libthread_db-1.0.so /compat/linux/lib/libthread_db.so.1 /compat/linux/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libthread_db-1.0.so /compat/linux/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libthread_db.so.1 /usr/Programs/Wine0.9.61/autolibs/libthr.so.2 /usr/Programs/e-Sword0.9.56/autolibs/libthr.so.2 /usr/lib/libthr.a /usr/lib/libthr.so /usr/lib/libthr.so.2 /usr/lib/libthr_p.a /usr/lib/libthread_db.a /usr/lib/libthread_db.so /usr/lib/libthread_db.so.2 /usr/lib/libthread_db_p.a /usr/local/lib/compat/libthr.so.1 /usr/local/lib/compat/libthread_db.so.1 /usr/ports/devel/pwlib/files/patch-src_ptlib_unix_tlibthrd.cxx /usr/share/man/cat3/libthr.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3/libthr.3.gz However, after running ldconfig -r | grep libthr I get: [root@pcbsd /usr/ports/www/apache22]# ldconfig -r | grep libthr 623:-lthr.1 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libthr.so.1 624:-lthread_db.1 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libthread_db.so.1 With so many hits on libthr from locate, why is ldconfig only finding these two instances in /usr/local/lib/compat? Aren't these for linux compatibility? > If that fails, I'm afraid you'll have to > upgrade to 7.x > I hope it doesn't come to that. Andy (for Bob) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 01:32:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6F1106564A for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 01:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D578FC0A for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 01:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so5443080qyk.3 for ; Fri, 01 May 2009 18:32:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=manuAFBCvEKsRv9HbWNuikkUB+3DmvK1M7tTdHokwKA=; b=ZVDJtP7sPwRObTOQr1ln0qzZbmNCGsqT9PN8TViLYbvPg2UQ091MOt4Y8x9FKi8t0N 2Wi3JfAuMwMfpweSgI1xoTa3UZnWs8Vn8VDiS/uafdpZDUq4Wgse+CjhrA8zAEHg2dec REu+ylS3lgFfLf3un/2LkeU9FbAoGTuxcBgA8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=iXZdfbZZSkeO1D+lTis7W7eEf5KYhu0PtYFlFDP/RD9JgxO4JgFwoQfhbWc18GJfBc sgMVMetLK4qbvTijHy3z4uYO6d/W5QtVblpdW8a1K0NCrFNwNbLdVjvr1i/NRGjpRewR hvX5SlRl50o8lySXLAIw0eplsJeo4hOooR54U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.77.1 with SMTP id e1mr6379299vck.91.1241227969100; Fri, 01 May 2009 18:32:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com> References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com> <3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com> <49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com> <3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com> From: Tim Judd Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:32:34 -0600 Message-ID: To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: ndis0 interrrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 01:32:53 -0000 I think project evil (ndis) requires a specific driver version, such as the WinXP drivers versus the Vista or 2000 or anything else. What drivers did you use? Any other drivers available on the manufacturer website? If you're not using XP, I recall reading that XP is the preferred driver for the recent project evil versions. --TJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 01:52:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5365106566C for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 01:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C17F8FC12 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 01:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so2525182bwz.43 for ; Fri, 01 May 2009 18:52:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=t6I+24JIfMsXMFm9Ab/nIbwYzF6O5GPHC4EnDDXZMEU=; b=l2nssIfUzot9uJLT5dPkMPSk1gI07iopwuTwbQEzIGKGpL6d0a1Ood2QEiHLUaeIAO ZPrLJ5XhaNQLWggb/j3Xp5wtsCQo5iXYPtm2l2rjAWgpQ96IVeabHH/nI0R4xySFc7zl UOK4tJ8JUPzGvV6sbZsT+GPuxpVG3C6NJ2Is0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LhEOTA6MiK0nJ6JHkXmCaRDujb7d2q6Sc2Y7SjxqzTGwVtnYy6ixh4VL71YzoP11Gj XfS7db4iLQPotD8a2GUQdvOCTZ6ERc/dVwhiyFu2v5PhecwLyRDhkTtlAwbFDtIMULkc Vp9dQ/4FUCbMN1odusyHqP5i2/q+CK3YM5OKk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.136.14 with SMTP id f14mr174761hbf.53.1241229161028; Fri, 01 May 2009 18:52:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com> References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com> <3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com> <49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com> <3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 03:52:41 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750905011852p30281dadtb83c1b31dddd8c45@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Chris Whitehouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: ndis0 interrrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 01:52:43 -0000 On 5/2/09, Paul B. Mahol wrote: > On 5/1/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> Paul B. Mahol wrote: >>> On 4/29/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54Gv5 wireless pccard working. It has a >>>> Marvell 8335 chip. I've created a module with ndisgen and I can see >>>> ndis0. When I up it with ifconfig I immediately get repeated messages: >>>> >>>> Apr 28 23:23:19 pcbsd kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; >>>> throttling interrupt source >>>> >>>> As soon as I down the interface the messages stop. >>>> >>>> I've also tried starting ndis0 with polling >>>> >>>> # ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.1.20 polling >>>> >>>> but still get the messages. I guess this driver doesn't support >>>> polling. >>>> Or I've got the syntax wrong. >>> >>> That command is not currently efective at all for ndisX(I yet have to >>> see if it is possible). >>> >>>> According to vmstat -i irq11 is used by cbb0 and pcm0. ndis0 is on irq9 >>>> >>>> irq9: cbb1 ndis0++ >>>> >>>> This is on PCBSD 7.1 which is FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE >>>> >>>> Any way I can get this thing working? >>> >>> Try yo disable cbbX if you dont use it or enable MSI for pcm0 (if >>> possible). >> >> This is a pcmcia card in a laptop so cbb is needed :( There is no >> reference to msi in the pcm man page so I guess it is not available for >> this system. (Paul I saw a post from you on multimedia about msi in hdac >> and sure enough there is a reference to msi in snd_hda(4) man page). Am >> I looking in the right place? > > msi for snd_hda(if that is your sound driver) should be enabled by default > on CURRENT (dunno about 7): > hint.hdac.%d.msi=1 > > You could try to use different dev.ndis.0.InterruptNumber for ndis0. > Changing it via sysctl is not supported, you will need to modify right > line(s) > in inf file, or in .h file generated with ndiscvt(1) via ndisgen(8) > > Dunno if that will work .... (never tried) Tried, doesnt work. Polling could be enabled if miniport driver for your card supports it, look output of sysctl dev.ndis.0 -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 03:18:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F4A106564A for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 03:18:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from imedmobility.com (host-50.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA2B8FC08 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 03:18:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from midco.net (host-67-54-107-208.midco.net [208.107.54.67]) by imedmobility.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B9CE71173C3A for ; Fri, 1 May 2009 22:18:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <49FBBB70.6090902@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 22:18:08 -0500 From: Adam Vande More User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090408) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5e8ad96d0905011618x50c9466fpf6758c8ba3bee2b8@mail.gmail.com> <5e8ad96d0905011645s699e243bgb0a335377aef49e0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5e8ad96d0905011645s699e243bgb0a335377aef49e0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 03:18:34 -0000 Duane wrote: > I have a fairly new install of 6.4, done over the 'net, on this old > Micron full tower dual PPro-180. The SMP kernel was automagically > installed: > > # uname -a > FreeBSD poobah.legomenon.org 6.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE #0: Wed > Nov 26 12:11:16 UTC 2008 > root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 > > Performance was *rather* sluggish so I tried to ascertain if both > processors were running: > > # dmesg | grep cpu > cpu0 on motherboard > > Q1. Is there a better way to establish how many processors are running? > > Q2. Do I need to specify, say in rc.conf, that I *want* SMP to be enabled? > > > Best regards, > > top should display a C column with a number that represents which cpu the process is running on. IIRC, ACPI must be enabled for SMP to work, and ACPI didn't work on my MB until 7.0. We have different boards, but upgrading to 7.2 would probably be a good idea if possibile in your situation as both 7.0 and 7.1 saw significant performance increases in certain areas. also "sysctl -a |grep kern.smp.cpus" should return your cpu # for 7.x(not sure on 6 anymore). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 03:43:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DD71065679 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 03:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@cheekymonkey.us) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0948FC0C for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 03:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@cheekymonkey.us) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so551846rvb.3 for ; Fri, 01 May 2009 20:43:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.29.17 with SMTP id g17mr1218672wfj.109.1241235825004; Fri, 01 May 2009 20:43:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49FBBB70.6090902@gmail.com> References: <5e8ad96d0905011618x50c9466fpf6758c8ba3bee2b8@mail.gmail.com> <5e8ad96d0905011645s699e243bgb0a335377aef49e0@mail.gmail.com> <49FBBB70.6090902@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 23:43:44 -0400 Message-ID: <5e8ad96d0905012043w3caff478y535326032e5f32ec@mail.gmail.com> From: Duane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 03:43:46 -0000 On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Adam Vande More wr= ote: > top should display a C column with a number that represents which cpu the > process is running on. =A0IIRC, ACPI must be enabled for SMP to work, and= ACPI > didn't work on my MB until 7.0. Using the ACPI boot option doesn't seem to change the cpu situation. I still get only cpu0 grepping dmesg. > also "sysctl -a |grep kern.smp.cpus" should return your cpu # This gives me '1'. Thanks, --=20 Duane From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 04:06:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B620106566C for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 04:06:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from till.plewe@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C568FC12 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 04:06:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from till.plewe@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1694271ywe.13 for ; Fri, 01 May 2009 21:06:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BEFmv5aNIRr6QJnYK97IasU71dzv7NdWvjxkUJ327i4=; b=J4YleTMK99iXvmHP38iy5uXen8TDAiWQayMZAfK+lBAys6ixTzwzOEe/NE6kNWZ5tM ERgI9FVES+JvW68I8anW8/f7otTUz1T04BqTr1fGj0CnlxkHOfVU5AnQzcK4g4IeHuAa efVDgcsjePIcOOMms8hyJyKJfYj4kP3TG2vxs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=YP5KpzabFmKiUrgyKG0ktpZcvKXAmAL79cBI5LjLB0zVMTuo2Y/6Dy9THs/7b1f4++ p/CcrZcML13bzHJdluk1BItxpjAKdtEZWcK0cmSF9obcWXONCcOorRVuirF7SpJtuttI eeda3ORR5qCXKu8hSmp4wvopTGk4xr1XHCbsc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.248.4 with SMTP id v4mr7341802anh.121.1241237169599; Fri, 01 May 2009 21:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 13:06:09 +0900 Message-ID: <8be8566f0905012106ld6509aeh754383d7b4b1c646@mail.gmail.com> From: till plewe To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: cannot mount slices of usbdrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 04:06:10 -0000 I have a usbdrive which was used on FreeBSD 6 or 7 but cannot be mounted now (on CURRENT with generic kernel). The drive is recognized but the individual slices do not seem to exist (see below). Any pointers on how to recover the content of the disk would be appreciated. I was thinking of building a new disk label from the fdisk output but am not sure that I understand what is involved properly (where does the in-core disklabel fdisk uses come from?) 1) # mount /dev/da1s1 /mnt1 mount: /dev/da1s1 : No such file or directory ------------------------------------- 2) # dmesg da1 at umass-sim2 bus 2 target 0 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers da1: 715404MB (1465149168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 91201C) ---------------------------------------- 3) # bsdlabel /dev/da1 # /dev/da1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1465149152 16 unused 0 0 c: 1465149168 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 4) # fdisk /dev/da1 ******* Working on device /dev/da1 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=91201 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=91201 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 377479242 (184316 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 377479305, size 377479305 (184316 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 3 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 754958610, size 377479305 (184316 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 4 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 1132437915, size 332706150 (162454 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 5) # fdisk /dev/da1s1 fdisk: unable to get correct path for /dev/da1s1: No such file or directory From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 04:57:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57815106564A for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 04:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from awd@awdcomp.net) Received: from home.awdcomp.net (ppp234-119.static.internode.on.net [203.122.234.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79388FC19 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 04:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from awd@awdcomp.net) Received: from getafix.abdulla ([192.168.202.99] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by home.awdcomp.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1M07IM-0003N7-FC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 02 May 2009 14:27:55 +0930 Message-ID: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net> Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 14:27:46 +0930 From: Andrew User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! 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[...] Content analysis details: (-1.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Spam-Score: -13 (-) Subject: Honey pot email address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 04:57:57 -0000 Hi All, I've created a honey pot email address for SPAM. Does anyone have any ideas on how to get on as many spammers mailing lists as possible? TIA cya Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 04:59:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1069F106566C for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 04:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4D98FC08 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 04:59:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so5535738qyk.3 for ; Fri, 01 May 2009 21:59:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=f/6MifJoqu9sa+xshr3JUuTMkLl814CI/7DLiuiqMDE=; b=djYgedsqjblUCoHfOqN4e938dtPj1nzGuIr97ai0z/ZAMZoOZx0LkaV/B1Wa4VKnzy GlHGGuuBVjLT5Ip536sqUx9J5oy0KItGZUhg9CL8JIUPbesH8M2LZ4jM4tsQRd3ZCixK fsuMs2wmt8tGGL/dqvGg0aZCQsQzZqEhDndA0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=k7QI/DCBqRzPa7wJpcw5AdgCURqVOLfD/rVO77+LaQ4Y1LpXvrRe//xZDUn1wK7O2M Iwjr8ogqM1ILnl285bmMCPE7sUZElfxWy0yoNzvx3vvsxDAy47l7hu2WEZ9NA661BUPV ugcMT6hXGOsdPud9ktxjuNJE6aF3sSdWiiFP0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.90.140 with SMTP id i12mr6680520vcm.22.1241240392122; Fri, 01 May 2009 21:59:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net> References: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net> From: Tim Judd Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:59:37 -0600 Message-ID: To: Andrew Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Honey pot email address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 04:59:53 -0000 On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Andrew wrote: > Hi All, > > I've created a honey pot email address for SPAM. > > Does anyone have any ideas on how to get on as many spammers mailing lists > as possible? > > TIA > cya > Andrew > posting to mailing lists with the address putting the email address in blogs, wiki's and mailing lists, on the web, uncensored robots pick them up. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 05:03:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA7D1065672 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 05:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AFD8FC0A for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 05:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.49.96.10]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 2 May 2009 07:03:21 +0200 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n4253JFJ003443; Sat, 2 May 2009 07:03:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 07:03:19 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: till plewe Message-ID: <20090502050319.GB2871@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <8be8566f0905012106ld6509aeh754383d7b4b1c646@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <8be8566f0905012106ld6509aeh754383d7b4b1c646@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2009 05:03:21.0907 (UTC) FILETIME=[50D19830:01C9CAE3] Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: cannot mount slices of usbdrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 05:03:24 -0000 El día Saturday, May 02, 2009 a las 01:06:09PM +0900, till plewe escribió: > I have a usbdrive which was used on FreeBSD 6 or 7 but cannot > be mounted now (on CURRENT with generic kernel). The drive is > recognized but the individual slices do not seem to exist (see below). ... I have had the same problem: booting CURRENT from an USB key and wanting to get access to the SSD partitions created with RELENG_7 kernel in the EeePC. I've found no way to do and labeled the SSD from scratch (had even to overwrite the 1st blocks with dd(1) to make fdisk(1M) create partitions there). In your case: boot a RELENG_7 rescue CD, mount the usbdrive and backup the data (via LAN) to some other place. matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 05:28:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEB8106564A for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 05:28:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from till.plewe@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706358FC1F for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 05:28:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from till.plewe@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1708229ywe.13 for ; Fri, 01 May 2009 22:28:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EbB4QzCwqIfvP5ZQ6w/2DAfI+gjrl8ylFswyit32oSE=; b=G4ecUweDQKrevj6gubD/j1jzDndAqnrb3iWQrNIu3Tm8Ll/m75JPH4JhK9PFrWdIUT ORc0dKg1+XxZv/2acLLAPRdDeJBcygcx186uY3A4CXWAeiLSC1HxYFmlgp3AYeKQw4K6 +c/jaUZuouWVrHlErrysXlfFxA3OwFmS6QGRk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xb7GPTXdI65Oigd5RwLcRRbX94jaxU+4THFDA5DPD9bs6xAfN8QVdx5sZf3/NpCUk8 206cJshpNfXPQJGC9LY/yq9+p+xYlLQwBl62lvjZtbgUUo+Q6Ma/eZv/dc7pNd90McGN s2S6ulLGnJn52g/yhBIMBONiPq27ZBhc/dVE4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.11.14 with SMTP id 14mr7614981ank.84.1241242091630; Fri, 01 May 2009 22:28:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090502050319.GB2871@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <8be8566f0905012106ld6509aeh754383d7b4b1c646@mail.gmail.com> <20090502050319.GB2871@rebelion.Sisis.de> Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 14:28:11 +0900 Message-ID: <8be8566f0905012228y5aa3589bq4bf41af82a5d7dd7@mail.gmail.com> From: till plewe To: Matthias Apitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: cannot mount slices of usbdrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 05:28:13 -0000 On 5/2/09, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=C3=ADa Saturday, May 02, 2009 a las 01:06:09PM +0900, till plewe esc= ribi=C3=B3: > >> I have a usbdrive which was used on FreeBSD 6 or 7 but cannot >> be mounted now (on CURRENT with generic kernel). The drive is >> recognized but the individual slices do not seem to exist (see below). > ... > > I have had the same problem: booting CURRENT from an USB key and wanting > to get access to the SSD partitions created with RELENG_7 kernel in the > EeePC. I've found no way to do and labeled the SSD from scratch (had > even to overwrite the 1st blocks with dd(1) to make fdisk(1M) create > partitions there). > > In your case: boot a RELENG_7 rescue CD, mount the usbdrive and backup > the data (via LAN) to some other place. > > matthias > Thanks. That sounds much more reasonable than what I was planning to do. I don't know why I wasn't thinking of the rescue CDs (most likely since I did not have to use them before). I'll give it a try once I find a big enough backup disk. - Till > -- > Matthias Apitz > Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH > Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany > t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 > e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.= de/ > People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use > FreeBSD. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 09:15:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D294F1065670 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 09:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (progress.isafeelin.org [84.244.146.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935DF8FC16 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 09:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EF1130D98; Sat, 2 May 2009 11:15:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.145.154.3]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AE06D130D96; Sat, 2 May 2009 11:15:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (unknown [192.168.1.15]) by s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BC48CB13; Sat, 2 May 2009 11:15:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49FC0F2E.7040409@isafeelin.org> Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 11:15:26 +0200 From: Frederique Rijsdijk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew References: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net> In-Reply-To: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Honey pot email address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 09:15:34 -0000 Andrew wrote: > Hi All, > > I've created a honey pot email address for SPAM. > > Does anyone have any ideas on how to get on as many spammers mailing > lists as possible? > I'd be happy to put your e-mail address in the source code of some sites that I run? -- F From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 09:20:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6436F106566C for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 09:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09E18FC13 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 09:20:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D3A0900174B24A; Sat, 2 May 2009 10:20:40 +0100 Message-ID: <49FC1067.1090808@onetel.com> Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 10:20:39 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul B. Mahol" References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com> <3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com> <49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com> <3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750905011852p30281dadtb83c1b31dddd8c45@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905011852p30281dadtb83c1b31dddd8c45@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: ndis0 interrrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 09:20:42 -0000 Paul B. Mahol wrote: > On 5/2/09, Paul B. Mahol wrote: >> On 5/1/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >>> Paul B. Mahol wrote: >>>> On 4/29/09, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >>>>> Hi all >>>>> >>>>> I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54Gv5 wireless pccard working. It has a >>>>> Marvell 8335 chip. I've created a module with ndisgen and I can see >>>>> ndis0. When I up it with ifconfig I immediately get repeated messages: >>>>> >>>>> Apr 28 23:23:19 pcbsd kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; >>>>> throttling interrupt source >>>>> >>>>> As soon as I down the interface the messages stop. >>>>> >>>>> I've also tried starting ndis0 with polling >>>>> >>>>> # ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.1.20 polling >>>>> >>>>> but still get the messages. I guess this driver doesn't support >>>>> polling. >>>>> Or I've got the syntax wrong. >>>> That command is not currently efective at all for ndisX(I yet have to >>>> see if it is possible). >>>> >>>>> According to vmstat -i irq11 is used by cbb0 and pcm0. ndis0 is on irq9 >>>>> >>>>> irq9: cbb1 ndis0++ >>>>> >>>>> This is on PCBSD 7.1 which is FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE >>>>> >>>>> Any way I can get this thing working? >>>> Try yo disable cbbX if you dont use it or enable MSI for pcm0 (if >>>> possible). >>> This is a pcmcia card in a laptop so cbb is needed :( There is no >>> reference to msi in the pcm man page so I guess it is not available for >>> this system. (Paul I saw a post from you on multimedia about msi in hdac >>> and sure enough there is a reference to msi in snd_hda(4) man page). Am >>> I looking in the right place? >> msi for snd_hda(if that is your sound driver) should be enabled by default >> on CURRENT (dunno about 7): >> hint.hdac.%d.msi=1 my driver is snd_t4dwave and msi is not mentioned in the man page. Does that mean it's not available? >> >> You could try to use different dev.ndis.0.InterruptNumber for ndis0. >> Changing it via sysctl is not supported, you will need to modify right >> line(s) >> in inf file, or in .h file generated with ndiscvt(1) via ndisgen(8) >> >> Dunno if that will work .... (never tried) > > Tried, doesnt work. Polling could be enabled if miniport driver for your > card supports it, look output of sysctl dev.ndis.0 no reference to polling in sysctl dev.ndis > hmm not looking good so far Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 09:22:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17A81065678 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 09:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (progress.isafeelin.org [84.244.146.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620768FC2C for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 09:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627DF130D9B; Sat, 2 May 2009 11:22:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.145.154.3]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A49F130D98; Sat, 2 May 2009 11:22:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (unknown [192.168.1.15]) by s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F6C8CBB8; Sat, 2 May 2009 11:22:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49FC10DE.9000401@isafeelin.org> Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 11:22:38 +0200 From: Frederique Rijsdijk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nf References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Poor ZFS performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 09:22:45 -0000 nf wrote: > 733843456 bytes transferred in 61.124812 secs (12005656 bytes/sec) That is very low. I get about 60MB/sec in this way. Adding bs=1m it'll go up to 240MB/sec even (raidz1 with 4*1TB). > CPU: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 14.3% system, 4.5% interrupt, 80.8% idle > Mem: 1950M Active, 868M Inact, 537M Wired, 238M Cache, 363M Buf, 87M Free > Swap: 1024M Total, 101M Used, 923M Free, 9% Inuse > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND > 8402 nf 1 50 0 4604K 788K zio->i 0 0:03 8.59% dd Could you show top -S ? -- Frederique From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 09:30:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348D7106566B for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 09:30:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C808FC18 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 09:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 49D3A0900174B969; Sat, 2 May 2009 10:30:15 +0100 Message-ID: <49FC12A6.40305@onetel.com> Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 10:30:14 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Judd References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com> <3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com> <49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com> <3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: ndis0 interrrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 09:30:17 -0000 Tim Judd wrote: > I think project evil (ndis) requires a specific driver version, such as the > WinXP drivers versus the Vista or 2000 or anything else. > > > > What drivers did you use? Any other drivers available on the manufacturer > website? > > > If you're not using XP, I recall reading that XP is the preferred driver for > the recent project evil versions. > > > --TJ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I believe I read about XP being preferred as well. I downloaded the latest drivers zip file from the linksys website, it includes 3 drivers for this chipset, a generic one, one for NT and one for XP. I used the XP one. I might try the others just in case but I am away for afew days so won't be able to have another look till next week. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 12:50:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7698106566C for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 12:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.questions@virtualhost.nl) Received: from mail.virtualhost.nl (mail.virtualhost.nl [89.200.201.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3239D8FC15 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 12:50:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.questions@virtualhost.nl) Received: (qmail 49695 invoked from network); 2 May 2009 14:50:14 +0200 Received: from ip120-12-208-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl (HELO ?192.168.1.7?) (87.208.12.120) by mail.virtualhost.nl with SMTP; 2 May 2009 14:50:14 +0200 Message-ID: <49FC4186.80608@virtualhost.nl> Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 14:50:14 +0200 From: Jeroen Hofstee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: local security scanner for vulnerable common opensource www projects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 12:50:23 -0000 I tried to find a program which could scan the local filesystem and extract a lists of well known web projects (yoomla, wordpress etc), extract the installed version number and match it against a database of known vulnerabilities. Similiar to portaudit, but then for the standard scripts users install themselves. I was unable to find such a program in the ports. Does such an utilities exists for FreeBSD ? Jeroen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 13:43:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99FB1065670 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 13:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dak.col@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f167.google.com (mail-gx0-f167.google.com [209.85.217.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FB48FC08 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 13:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dak.col@gmail.com) Received: by gxk11 with SMTP id 11so1882404gxk.19 for ; Sat, 02 May 2009 06:43:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5nixW8ksm6Ovd7mI6MOcELTM3JkAQWjU8X7JV1OgxVg=; b=NmgzolUXfIqfCaIJmb9CqHdfHUFVZs0WGZvmPZkVML7D8OxVo3ChzTXu9iHuEcC6X+ v+mJMYE4ymC1niOS+4rNuRMPE8fYQec/4NXL0VZZXpyx9X61ymbPzqElMxt596bCx9AA c5m2CanE+BpCNpuQd5fp9loiWmNp2B/v2wyPQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dxDK48GxfjtzpB4NiwcJvd/UTaprKCS2edwYGhaAx9BmNuzU37j2oH0B+0UPZsLp/x n00Vjz4f0xqA1l9B+OvQ3q3Vyd3rKVO25FOhh3GFN4paEr2dfweh94mpe+UjmVPJRdWT 1Z9B7/LsR0Y8pkHryx27y6IDcONh26JJxJ5YI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.137.3 with SMTP id p3mr7879053ybn.153.1241270359854; Sat, 02 May 2009 06:19:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5e8ad96d0905012043w3caff478y535326032e5f32ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e8ad96d0905011618x50c9466fpf6758c8ba3bee2b8@mail.gmail.com> <5e8ad96d0905011645s699e243bgb0a335377aef49e0@mail.gmail.com> <49FBBB70.6090902@gmail.com> <5e8ad96d0905012043w3caff478y535326032e5f32ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 08:19:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3b93bd110905020619o74760f2fo5175f8e2daba0592@mail.gmail.com> From: "Diego F. Arias R." To: Duane Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 13:43:12 -0000 On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Duane wrote: > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Adam Vande More = wrote: > >> top should display a C column with a number that represents which cpu th= e >> process is running on. =C2=A0IIRC, ACPI must be enabled for SMP to work,= and ACPI >> didn't work on my MB until 7.0. > > Using the ACPI boot option doesn't seem to change the cpu situation. I > still get only cpu0 grepping dmesg. > >> also "sysctl -a |grep kern.smp.cpus" should return your cpu # > > This gives me '1'. > > Thanks, > > -- > Duane > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > Are you running generic or custom kernel? --=20 mmm, interesante..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 14:03:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E592A1065673 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 14:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C68D8FC13 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 14:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 92080 invoked by uid 89); 2 May 2009 14:04:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 2 May 2009 14:04:21 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20090502125055.GB15913@pureftpd.org> References: <20090501085510.18a830e9@prokofiev.trutwins.homeip.net> <20090502125055.GB15913@pureftpd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 10:03:43 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [pure-ftpd] Security Scan question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 14:03:51 -0000 On May 2, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Frank Denis wrote: > Hello Josh, > > Le Fri, May 01, 2009 at 08:55:10AM -0500, Josh Trutwin ecrivait : >> Because I programmed a custom cart solution for one of my customers, >> their merchant account is doing a monthly server scan to check for >> known vulnerabilities. > > Great. I've had to endure these scans, myself, and I must say that they helped a lot. The scans are pretty thorough and they made me re-think some things I was doing... particularly limiting access to ports that I thought 'needed' to be open, but actually just needed to be open to a small number of outside addresses. Thank goodness for PF... would hate to try to pass one of those scans without a flexible firewall. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 16:52:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FC0106567C for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 16:52:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@cheekymonkey.us) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DFF8FC22 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 16:52:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@cheekymonkey.us) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1968320wfg.7 for ; Sat, 02 May 2009 09:52:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.29.17 with SMTP id g17mr1506275wfj.109.1241283121632; Sat, 02 May 2009 09:52:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3b93bd110905020619o74760f2fo5175f8e2daba0592@mail.gmail.com> References: <5e8ad96d0905011618x50c9466fpf6758c8ba3bee2b8@mail.gmail.com> <5e8ad96d0905011645s699e243bgb0a335377aef49e0@mail.gmail.com> <49FBBB70.6090902@gmail.com> <5e8ad96d0905012043w3caff478y535326032e5f32ec@mail.gmail.com> <3b93bd110905020619o74760f2fo5175f8e2daba0592@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:52:01 -0400 Message-ID: <5e8ad96d0905020952g2c501248t2110c3571de0da37@mail.gmail.com> From: Duane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 16:52:03 -0000 On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Diego F. Arias R. wrote: > Are you running generic or custom kernel? Generic SMP: # uname -a FreeBSD poobah.legomenon.org 6.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov 26 12:11:16 UTC 2008 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386 -- Duane From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 19:16:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203D61065673 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 19:16:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97988FC1D for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 19:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2009133962E; Sat, 2 May 2009 15:16:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 02 May 2009 15:16:33 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: y5y4yfWKP8Pwm9M1KAY7N3fRlIi22LU8kL0P1Winaf6Z 1241291792 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B0DB01E96E; Sat, 2 May 2009 15:16:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <7735FCD6-4F23-42FB-99D7-FCE35F262353@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Andrew In-Reply-To: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 14:16:30 -0500 References: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Honey pot email address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 19:16:34 -0000 On May 1, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Andrew wrote: > Does anyone have any ideas on how to get on as many spammers mailing > lists as possible? The single fastest way is to post to Usenet using that address as a "from" address. You should start seeing lots of spam within 48 hours of that. Then once you start getting spam to that address use the "unsubscribe" mechanisms in the spam. That not only confirms that the address works and is read by a human, but that it is read by a gullible human. This will make that address a high value spam address. Cheers, -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 19:18:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B183D1065670 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 19:18:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6826A8FC1B for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 19:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1857158ywe.13 for ; Sat, 02 May 2009 12:18:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=t66hZAV5+0f6zgbVr2d+GPyqYBtImFOT8i+M6ELSgCw=; b=a4Jmongq+GyMm4K3MnKTRg85pvBp3HqpYrszU8l0o1p6xQy8F3bW03FPlUsNkSHcR2 WSQ4vAlICZGxClfmPGSjBVjAjf3DYx5j7+0kYPfEI5zDU4zXVI2ecuZHuXgWw3NZGdpT +0GFmXVYdYY++0dDIbFkXBw92YXzvwKOr7vBQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pKm2OWJX/+gpcukYa9wlM4qlbCUjnX7xecMCNpIVqB6TSNEqEJq1GI4XmXw99wl55s blHnP541/EnY72eoWzrrG5x381LQtyStKajcCOrR/S6LzHN94Y3s2/Qa2tBfUgMpXKwf ZcHPMP0H7D4dh+aCkjtcy9fbp/MmcgUhqwHEs= Received: by 10.90.96.1 with SMTP id t1mr1005345agb.43.1241291898560; Sat, 02 May 2009 12:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jimmiejaz.org (bas1-toronto44-1279725923.dsl.bell.ca [76.71.17.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm7724084agb.2.2009.05.02.12.18.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 02 May 2009 12:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49FC9C6D.6090208@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 15:18:05 -0400 From: Jimmie James User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.7pre (X11/20090406) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: dmesg: sysctl kern.msgbuf Cannot allocate memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jimmiejaz@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 19:18:21 -0000 After searching google and various man pages, I'm not finding out what it actually means, anyone care to shed some light? During boot: dmesg: sysctl kern.msgbuf Cannot allocate memory #sysctl -a |grep msgbuf kern.msgbuf_clear: 0 kern.msgbuf: kern.consmsgbuf_size: 8192 security.bsd.unprivileged_read_msgbuf: 1 -- Over the years I've come to regard you as people I've met. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 19:45:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51841065688 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 19:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2B78FC1A for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 19:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KJ100IH0879X590@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 02 May 2009 15:45:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <49FCA2C9.4060307@videotron.ca> Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 15:45:13 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: lost+found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 19:45:11 -0000 A couple of days ago I had minor glitch as my FreeBSD box on my local intranet had an unexpected shutdown. When I fsck'd on reboot I was left with a few lost+found directories with #999999 files. Most appeared inconsequential and could be deleted. But there is one /tmp/lost+found that puzzles me. There are 3 subdirectories that act a little strangely. [~]# cd /tmp/lost+found/#123456 [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# ls [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd .. [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd #123456 this returns and empty directory) [~]# ls (this returns the listing of the contents of /root Whoops! What is going on? I'd like to delete this /tmp/lost+found/ directory but, being very wary, I don't want to take the risk (probably none) to delete it since there is no indication that this is a symbolic link and might delte the actual /root/ directory withoug getting some information about this occurrence. TIA. -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la plančte, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 19:46:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C8F10656D5 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 19:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f105.google.com (mail-qy0-f105.google.com [209.85.221.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0E78FC22 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 19:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: by qyk3 with SMTP id 3so5993768qyk.3 for ; Sat, 02 May 2009 12:46:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=L6z5nNAy294hxbr4RrIYl9LRf80mlGZFsmJjEfMMfc0=; b=joNt8ftP1WNq0bm9uohGMq84t+cAoFtURZvfbIYT+FrUqVR6BS3mUn23Vk54g/w/o1 XZuwAEb2iEelFl1v6ovomk4tuR6ZYN/wrNxKc6yg5rNrGYatLzy/ABX60iDfOEwbxBqi eY5n2/2jNxwxKOKzuQK9fsDfhOnLDZpsCdJCs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w9m/4MqhR1yG8xRmFaSXBmf4kZ8Eg+9/R7KNwU64kvNmZ8vc2/X6jUiPEoFa5/QHXi h3AsesUIl63STfQ7mSNiLpK682XhGW373UTrppg5uZG+evF7I2wq/cjZNuDdpiZuV2HB S0E0zp11UoK70PC5074zRgm1H1rPRUVdHYnVo= Received: by 10.220.97.137 with SMTP id l9mr6997229vcn.98.1241293574062; Sat, 02 May 2009 12:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jimmiejaz.org (bas1-toronto44-1279725923.dsl.bell.ca [76.71.17.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm14894106yxj.37.2009.05.02.12.46.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 02 May 2009 12:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49FCA302.4020606@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 15:46:10 -0400 From: Jimmie James User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.7pre (X11/20090406) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Repeatable X lockups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jimmiejaz@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 19:46:16 -0000 When using the xv output driver for vlc or mplayer, X will lockup, crash instantly, trashing the screen and forcing a reboot Image of screen corruption: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jimmiejaz/xcrash.jpg This just started manifesting in the past week or so. HW/SW details All that's printed to Xorg.0.log (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "NEC", prod id 17450 Memory heap 0x2867e260: Offset:0002a000, Size:00100000, F. Free list: FREE Offset:0002a000, Size:00100000, F. End of memory blocks pciconf -lv vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x25821043 chip=0x25828086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82915G/GV/GL, 82910GL Integrated Graphics Device' class = display subclass = VGA vgapci1@pci0:0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x25821043 chip=0x27828086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82915G Graphics device: 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family' class = display display bits from dmesg: vgapci0: port 0x6800-0x6807 mem 0xcfd80000-0xcfdfffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xcfe80000-0xcfebffff at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: on vgapci0 drm0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster vgapci1: mem 0xcfe00000-0xcfe7ffff at device 2.1 on pci0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 drm0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 256MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 drm0: [ITHREAD] dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Mar 21 22:34:18 EDT 2009 jimmie@jimmiejaz.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FORTYTWO Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (3192.02-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf41 Stepping = 1 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x441d AMD Features=0x100000 Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory = 1065091072 (1015 MB) avail memory = 1032073216 (984 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 3f700000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 vgapci0: port 0x6800-0x6807 mem 0xcfd80000-0xcfdfffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xcfe80000-0xcfebffff at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: on vgapci0 agp0: detected 7932k stolen memory agp0: aperture size is 256M drm0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 256MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 vgapci1: mem 0xcfe00000-0xcfe7ffff at device 2.1 on pci0 hdac0: mem 0xcfef8000-0xcfefbfff irq 16 at device 27.0 on pci0 hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20090316_0130 hdac0: [ITHREAD] pcib1: irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib1 pcib2: irq 17 at device 28.1 on pci0 pci4: on pcib2 pcib3: irq 18 at device 28.2 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 pcib4: irq 19 at device 28.3 on pci0 pci2: on pcib4 uhci0: port 0x7000-0x701f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x7400-0x741f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x7800-0x781f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0x8000-0x801f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci3: [ITHREAD] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xcfeffc00-0xcfefffff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: on usb4 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered pcib5: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib5 fxp0: port 0xa000-0xa03f mem 0xcfffe000-0xcfffefff irq 20 at device 8.0 on pci1 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:11:d8:11:b7:4e fxp0: [ITHREAD] rl0: port 0xa400-0xa4ff mem 0xcffff800-0xcffff8ff irq 22 at device 10.0 on pci1 miibus1: on rl0 rlphy0: PHY 0 on miibus1 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:29:51:c7:61 rl0: [ITHREAD] xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xa800-0xa87f mem 0xcffffc00-0xcffffc7f irq 21 at device 11.0 on pci1 miibus2: on xl0 ukphy0: PHY 24 on miibus2 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto xl0: Ethernet address: 00:04:75:c7:27:da xl0: [ITHREAD] isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] atapci1: port 0x9800-0x9807,0x9400-0x9403,0x9000-0x9007,0x8800-0x8803,0x8400-0x840f irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] ata2: on atapci1 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci1 ata3: [ITHREAD] ichsmb0: port 0x400-0x41f irq 19 at device 31.3 on pci0 ichsmb0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ichsmb0: [ITHREAD] smbus0: on ichsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 sio0: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xca800-0xcafff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 ppbus0: [ITHREAD] lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ppc0: [ITHREAD] ukbd0: on uhub0 kbd2 at ukbd0 uhid0: on uhub0 ums0: on uhub0 ums0: 8 buttons and Z dir. Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert enabled, nat loadable, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, logging limited to 5 packets/entry by default ad0: 114473MB at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: DVDROM at ata0-slave UDMA33 hdac0: HDA Codec #0: Realtek ALC880 pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm2: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm3: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00 (probe0:ata0:0:1:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:ata0:0:1:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:ata0:0:1:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (probe0:ata0:0:1:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 (probe0:ata0:0:1:0): Medium not present (probe0:ata0:0:1:0): Unretryable error cd0 at ata0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present fxp0: link state changed to UP xl0: link state changed to UP rl0: link state changed to UP rl0: link state changed to DOWN rl0: link state changed to UP drm0: [ITHREAD] Xorg.0.log X.Org X Server 1.6.0 Release Date: 2009-2-25 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE i386 Current Operating System: FreeBSD jimmiejaz.org 7.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Mar 21 22:34:18 EDT 2009 jimmie@jimmiejaz.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FORTYTWO i386 Build Date: 06 April 2009 01:21:41AM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat May 2 14:28:43 2009 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (==) ServerLayout "Simple Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "i810" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1" (**) Option "AIGLX" "true" (**) Option "AllowEmptyInput" "OFF" (**) Option "AutoAddDevices" "OFF" (**) Not automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (**) FontPath set to: /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/local/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/artwiz-fonts/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/jmk, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/terminus-font, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/artwiz-fonts, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, built-ins (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" (II) Loader magic: 0x6a0 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 5.0 X.Org XInput driver : 4.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (II) Loader running on freebsd (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (--) using VT number 9 (--) PCI:*(0@0:2:0) Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller rev 4, Mem @ 0xcfd80000/524288, 0xd0000000/268435456, 0xcfe80000/262144, I/O @ 0x00006800/8, BIOS @ 0x????????/65536 (--) PCI: (0@0:2:1) Intel Corporation 82915G Integrated Graphics Controller rev 4, Mem @ 0xcfe00000/524288 (II) System resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) "extmod" will be loaded by default. (II) "dbe" will be loaded by default. (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "record" will be loaded by default. (II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "dri2" will be loaded by default. (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (**) AIGLX enabled (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "dri" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: "vbe" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libvbe.so (II) Module vbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0 (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so (II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0 (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: "dri2" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri2.so (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DRI2 (II) LoadModule: "intel" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//intel_drv.so (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 2.6.3 Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0 (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.4.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0 (II) LoadModule: "kbd" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.3.2 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0 (II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset, Intel Integrated Graphics Device, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41 (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00@00:02:0 (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: [0] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [3] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B] [4] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B] [5] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B] [6] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [7] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [8] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B] [9] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B] (II) Loading sub module "vgahw" (II) LoadModule: "vgahw" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libvgahw.so (II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0 (**) intel(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16 (==) intel(0): RGB weight 565 (==) intel(0): Default visual is TrueColor (II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) 915G (--) intel(0): Chipset: "915G" (--) intel(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xD0000000 (--) intel(0): IO registers at addr 0xCFD80000 (==) intel(0): Using EXA for acceleration (II) intel(0): 2 display pipes available. (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Module "ddc" already built-in (II) Loading sub module "i2c" (II) LoadModule: "i2c" (II) Module "i2c" already built-in (II) intel(0): Output VGA using monitor section monitor0 (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (II) intel(0): Resizable framebuffer: not available (1 3) (II) intel(0): I2C bus "CRTDDC_A" initialized. (II) intel(0): I2C bus "CRTDDC_A" removed. (II) intel(0): I2C bus "CRTDDC_A" initialized. (II) intel(0): I2C device "CRTDDC_A:E-EDID segment register" registered at address 0x60. (II) intel(0): I2C device "CRTDDC_A:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0. (II) intel(0): I2C device "CRTDDC_A:ddc2" removed. (II) intel(0): I2C device "CRTDDC_A:E-EDID segment register" removed. (II) intel(0): I2C bus "CRTDDC_A" removed. (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "NEC", prod id 17450 (II) intel(0): Using EDID range info for horizontal sync (II) intel(0): Using EDID range info for vertical refresh (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline "1600x1200"x0.0 175.50 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync (81.2 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 31.50 640 664 704 832 480 489 492 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 30.24 640 704 768 864 480 483 486 525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0 35.50 720 738 846 900 400 421 423 449 -hsync -vsync (39.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 75.00 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 44.90 1024 1032 1208 1264 768 768 772 817 interlace +hsync +vsync (35.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "832x624"x0.0 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 50.00 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1152x864"x0.0 108.00 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0 36.00 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync (43.3 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0 56.25 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync (53.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0 94.50 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync (68.7 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x960"x0.0 108.00 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline "1600x1200"x0.0 175.50 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync (81.2 kHz) (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "NEC", prod id 17450 (II) intel(0): Output VGA connected (II) intel(0): Using exact sizes for initial modes (II) intel(0): Output VGA using initial mode 1600x1200 (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (II) intel(0): detected 256 kB GTT. (II) intel(0): detected 7932 kB stolen memory. (==) intel(0): video overlay key set to 0x83e (==) intel(0): Will not try to enable page flipping (==) intel(0): Triple buffering disabled (==) intel(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (**) intel(0): Display dimensions: (320, 240) mm (**) intel(0): DPI set to (127, 169) (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 (II) Loading sub module "exa" (II) LoadModule: "exa" (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so (II) Module exa: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 2.4.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in (II) intel(0): Comparing regs from server start up to After PreInit (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. (II) resource ranges after preInit: [0] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [3] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprD) [4] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [5] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD) [6] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [7] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B] [8] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU) [9] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprU) (II) intel(0): Kernel reported 241152 total, 0 used (II) intel(0): I830CheckAvailableMemory: 964608 kB available (WW) intel(0): DRI2 requires UXA drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 9, (OK) drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 9, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:00:02.0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 9, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 9 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:00:02.0 (II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.2 (II) [drm] DRM open master succeeded. (II) intel(0): [drm] Using the DRM lock SAREA also for drawables. (II) intel(0): [drm] framebuffer mapped by ddx driver (II) intel(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel (II) intel(0): X context handle = 0x1 (II) intel(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler (**) intel(0): Framebuffer compression disabled (**) intel(0): Tiling enabled (==) intel(0): VideoRam: 262144 KB (II) intel(0): Attempting memory allocation with tiled buffers. (II) intel(0): Tiled allocation successful. (II) intel(0): [drm] Registers = 0xcfd80000 (II) intel(0): [drm] ring buffer = 0xd0000000 (II) intel(0): [drm] mapped front buffer at 0xd0800000, handle = 0xd0800000 (II) intel(0): [drm] mapped back buffer at 0xd2800000, handle = 0xd2800000 (II) intel(0): [drm] mapped depth buffer at 0xd3000000, handle = 0xd3000000 (II) intel(0): [drm] mapped classic textures at 0xd3800000, handle = 0xd3800000 (II) intel(0): [drm] Initialized kernel agp heap manager, 33554432 (II) intel(0): [dri] visual configs initialized (II) intel(0): Page Flipping disabled (II) intel(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is 0x0000 (==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear (II) EXA(0): Offscreen pixmap area of 19660800 bytes (II) EXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations: (II) Solid (II) Copy (II) Composite (RENDER acceleration) (==) intel(0): Backing store disabled (==) intel(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) intel(0): Initializing HW Cursor (II) intel(0): [DRI] installation complete (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x00800000 (pgoffset 2048) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 2 at 0x01000000 (pgoffset 4096) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 3 at 0x02800000 (pgoffset 10240) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 4 at 0x03000000 (pgoffset 12288) (II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 5 at 0x03800000 (pgoffset 14336) (II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout: (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00029fff: HW cursors (40 kB, 0x000000003f820000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x0002a000-0x00129fff: fake bufmgr (1024 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x0012a000-0x0012afff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x000000003f92a000 physical ) (II) intel(0): 0x007bf000: end of stolen memory (II) intel(0): 0x00800000-0x00ffffff: front buffer (8192 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x01000000-0x022bffff: exa offscreen (19200 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x02800000-0x02ffffff: back buffer (8192 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x03000000-0x037fffff: depth buffer (8192 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x03800000-0x057fffff: classic textures (32768 kB) (II) intel(0): 0x10000000: end of aperture (II) intel(0): Output configuration: (II) intel(0): Pipe A is on (II) intel(0): Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe A. (II) intel(0): Pipe B is off (II) intel(0): Display plane B is now disabled and connected to pipe B. (II) intel(0): Output VGA is connected to pipe A (II) intel(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 16 (II) intel(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message. (II) intel(0): DPMS enabled (==) intel(0): Intel XvMC decoder disabled (II) intel(0): Set up textured video (II) intel(0): Set up overlay video (II) intel(0): direct rendering: XF86DRI Enabled (--) RandR disabled (II) Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension (II) Initializing built-in extension SHAPE (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Initializing built-in extension SYNC (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:00:02.0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:00:02.0 (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_SGI_make_current_read (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_SGI_swap_control and GLX_MESA_swap_control (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_texture_from_pixmap with driver support (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/local/lib/dri/i915_dri.so (II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0 (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 306 x 230 (**) Option "Protocol" "AUTO" (**) Mouse1: Device: "/dev/sysmouse" (**) Mouse1: Protocol: "AUTO" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse1: always reports core events (**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" (**) Option "Buttons" "10" (**) Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" (**) Mouse1: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Option "ButtonMapping" "1 2 3 6 7 8 9 10 4 5" (**) Mouse1: Buttons: 10 (**) Mouse1: Sensitivity: 1 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse1" (type: MOUSE) (**) Mouse1: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 (**) Mouse1: (accel) filter chain progression: 2.00 (**) Mouse1: (accel) filter stage 0: 20.00 ms (**) Mouse1: (accel) set acceleration profile 0 (II) Mouse1: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 (II) Mouse1: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" (**) Keyboard1: always reports core events (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) Keyboard1: Protocol: standard (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" (**) Keyboard1: XkbRules: "xorg" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) Keyboard1: XkbModel: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) Keyboard1: XkbLayout: "us" (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" (**) Keyboard1: CustomKeycodes disabled (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard1" (type: KEYBOARD) (II) config/hal: Adding input device USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) (II) config/hal: Adding input device Natural? Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) (II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) exaCopyDirty: Pending damage region empty! xorg.conf: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Simple Layout" Screen "Screen 1" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" Option "AllowEmptyInput" "OFF" Option "AutoAddDevices" "OFF" EndSection Section "Files" # RgbPath "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb" #*REMOVED* UPDATING 20090123: ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/local/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/artwiz-fonts/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/jmk" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/terminus-font" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/artwiz-fonts" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" Option "AIGLX" "true" EndSection Section "Module" Load "GLcore" Load "glx" Load "dri" Load "drm" Load "vbe" Load "int10" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "kbd" Option "pc101" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "AUTO" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Buttons" "10" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "ButtonMapping" "1 2 3 6 7 8 9 10 4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "monitor0" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "i810" Driver "intel" VendorName "Intel" BoardName "82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen 1" Device "i810" Monitor "monitor0" DefaultDepth 16 Subsection "Display" Modes "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" Depth 16 EndSubSection EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection xrandr: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1600 x 1200, maximum 1600 x 1600 VGA connected 1600x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 306mm x 230mm 1600x1200 65.0* 1280x1024 75.0 1280x960 60.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 85.0 75.0 70.1 60.0 43.5 832x624 74.6 800x600 85.1 72.2 75.0 60.3 56.2 640x480 85.0 75.0 72.8 66.7 59.9 720x400 87.8 70.1 -- Over the years I've come to regard you as people I've met. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 21:06:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C574106566B for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 21:06:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16888FC1C for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 21:06:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-7-253.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.7.253]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC29F3D098; Sat, 2 May 2009 23:06:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n42L6S3I005012; Sat, 2 May 2009 23:06:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 23:06:27 +0200 From: Polytropon To: PJ Message-Id: <20090502230627.71ef7124.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49FCA2C9.4060307@videotron.ca> References: <49FCA2C9.4060307@videotron.ca> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lost+found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 21:06:36 -0000 On Sat, 02 May 2009 15:45:13 -0400, PJ wrote: > [~]# cd /tmp/lost+found/#123456 > [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# ls Okay, it's empty. > [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd .. Strange, why does .. lead you from /tmp/lost+found/#123456 to /tmp/lost+found/#123456, just as if cd wasn't executed? > [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd #123456 this returns and empty directory) Does /tmp/lost+found/#123456 contain another #123456? And why does this cd lead you to your (root's) home directory? > [~]# ls (this returns the listing of the contents of /root Of course, because CWD is ~ now. > Whoops! What is going on? I'd like to delete this /tmp/lost+found/ > directory but, being very wary, I don't want to take the risk (probably > none) to delete it since there is no indication that this is a symbolic > link and might delte the actual /root/ directory withoug getting some > information about this occurrence. The best idea would be to copy the content of /root into another directory first, then performing the rm operation, and afterwards, if something went wrong, restore /root from this backup copy. Very strange... Just to be sure, are you SURE you reported the paths (in the prompt) and the commands correctly? -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 2 23:10:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3134F106564A for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 23:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCD08FC15 for ; Sat, 2 May 2009 23:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B5F50AFE for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 00:10:24 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F7LcbC2JG+75 for ; Sun, 3 May 2009 00:10:09 +0100 (BST) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 345D550A9F; Sun, 3 May 2009 00:10:06 +0100 (BST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090502231008.345D550A9F@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 00:10:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2009-05-02 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 23:10:26 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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