From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 00:10:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40E8106568B for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70ED28FC22 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n5S0APMT001784; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:10:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:10:25 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Glen Barber Message-ID: <20090628001025.GA73794@thought.org> References: <20090627223732.GA73601@thought.org> <4ad871310906271541tf5c8d03t5b2ea46871e6ddfe@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310906271554h4a2599d9nb20c23f64e09c9ea@mail.gmail.com> <20090627233259.GA73727@thought.org> <4ad871310906271638g29675978ya398a5fe6b3eacfb@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4ad871310906271638g29675978ya398a5fe6b3eacfb@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_DOB,RCVD_IN_DOB,URIBL_RHS_DOB autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: apache22: "Can't access startfile" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:10:33 -0000 On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 07:38:35PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > >        :-) [above].   no the reboot got things launched.  my server is > >        "sage.thought.org", but the mail, web, and dns stuff are all in > >        a jail, "aristotle.thought.org", so my guess is that things were > >        blocked at sage.  i realize that's a really LAME excuse... :-) > > > > I'm confused. Everything works now? still checking, but seem to. i'll check my /var/log/httpd/* files next. That excuse was my best SWAG, and nothing more. sometimes, reinitializing everything, the OS turns out to be smarter than the rest of us... > > >        if ever i find somebody out here in the seattle area to help me, i'll buy > >        a Dell and built ns1.thought.org as aristotle.thought.org; no mo' jails. > > > >        meanwhile, if anybody else has some clues re wha' happened, Pulleze clue > >        me in. there was nothing in the error log; it was dated > > > > Perhaps the logs didn't rotate? When was the last time that the > access log was 'touch'ed? where do i check, glen? my favoite place to grep around is /var/logs, and the httpd-error.log has some potentially serious [warn]ing messages, but i'm not familiar with apache22. until my network began falling apart in dec, 2007, i was happy as a clam with apache13. jon horne installed 22 and things just-worked. can you or anybody else make sense of any of this:: [Sat Jun 27 15:50:12 2009] [notice] SIGHUP received. Attempting to restart [Sat Jun 27 15:50:12 2009] [warn] (2)No such file or directory: Failed to enable the 'httpready' Accept Filter [Sat Jun 27 15:50:13 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `aristo tle.thought.org' does NOT match server name!? [Sat Jun 27 15:50:14 2009] [notice] Digest: generating secret for digest authent ication ... [Sat Jun 27 15:50:14 2009] [notice] Digest: done [Sat Jun 27 15:50:15 2009] [notice] Apache/2.2.6 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.6 OpenSSL /0.9.8e DAV/2 PHP/5.2.6 with Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operati ons [Sat Jun 27 15:51:13 2009] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down [Sat Jun 27 15:51:15 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `aristo tle.thought.org' does NOT match server name!? [Sat Jun 27 15:51:17 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `aristo tle.thought.org' does NOT match server name!? [Sat Jun 27 15:51:18 2009] [notice] Digest: generating secret for digest authent ication ... [Sat Jun 27 15:51:18 2009] [notice] Digest: done [Sat Jun 27 15:51:19 2009] [notice] Apache/2.2.6 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.6 OpenSSL /0.9.8e DAV/2 PHP/5.2.6 with Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operati ons [Sat Jun 27 16:10:54 2009] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down [Sat Jun 27 16:13:52 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `aristo tle.thought.org' does NOT match server name!? [Sat Jun 27 16:13:54 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `aristo tle.thought.org' does NOT match server name!? [Sat Jun 27 16:13:56 2009] [notice] Digest: generating secret for digest authent ication ... [Sat Jun 27 16:13:56 2009] [notice] Digest: done [Sat Jun 27 16:13:57 2009] [notice] Apache/2.2.6 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.6 OpenSSL /0.9.8e DAV/2 PHP/5.2.6 with Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operations httpd-error.log: unmodified, readonly: line 48148 of 48148 [100%]. i dont think it is Urgent that this is fixed instantly-if-not-sooner but if time, once some network wizard can drop by, sure... > > > > > 2 drwxr-xr-x   3 www  www  1024 Jan 13  2008 error > > 4 drwxr-xr-x   3 www  www  3584 Jan 13  2008 icons > > p0 16:29 [5061]                          /usr/local/www/apache22 > > > > > >        um, for apache22, the http.conf no longer has any of the virtual stuff. > >        it's all in Include/httpd-local.conf.  Meanwhile, this newest apache is > >        getting to be a religion in its own right.   like emacs vs vim/vi, etc, > >        etc...... > > > > True, true. I don't _need_ vhosts on my FreeBSD box because it's > overkill for what I use apache for. When I ran my site off of my own > hardware, I did need vhosts -- I had forgotten this. > > Thanks for reminding me about how much I don't remember. ;) oh, man, same here; and i was doing this stuff on my own until november, '07.... i'm adding a clue to my ~/.HowTo file. if httpd stuff w/ virt dirs fail: REBOOT. (*mumble*) > > -- > Glen Barber -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php The 4.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 00:21:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169B11065673 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f210.google.com (mail-bw0-f210.google.com [209.85.218.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8463E8FC14 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:21:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz6 with SMTP id 6so212636bwz.43 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:21:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QdMYAZhmFjBzu1ghBFRaHv2kuOPs9V4lQ1afPD0Sbrk=; b=iKGLFVOSbA90TQPny4cnLGenNLPuSLPWaH6GRBOCqN6hxaI98HxbRFxkP0w6fsOhEt BNahE4kMczNGnZdhz92LFXGiDOL0vppjlPzPpTuvkTlo3kXOQAO6agmx71Fkv4oquxfp LIR44qUGKDDBmAaNHABPYvgtpS+NuuVm3nGG8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eRu0Dur+LtqwGHANvfP953NAVuYHI1hRo/ZO80LIFb8yLKHtNn4VCZmJatFTl4Wu4e y5uEfXnj8evRUHc5XkWgaeWyJjFgKgr//8SQ+U/eQBaZN1OzVhjOVRQD9yzMMm3+pZNs 2FPpV3P5LQNKivJR+WEDQgOpC9ZecWXfzp5Zw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.199 with SMTP id c7mr3768644fap.31.1246148462310; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:21:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090628001025.GA73794@thought.org> References: <20090627223732.GA73601@thought.org> <4ad871310906271541tf5c8d03t5b2ea46871e6ddfe@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310906271554h4a2599d9nb20c23f64e09c9ea@mail.gmail.com> <20090627233259.GA73727@thought.org> <4ad871310906271638g29675978ya398a5fe6b3eacfb@mail.gmail.com> <20090628001025.GA73794@thought.org> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:21:02 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310906271721t652eb70n248a84c578c39d1@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: apache22: "Can't access startfile" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:21:04 -0000 On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 07:38:35PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Gary Kline wrote: >> > >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0:-) [above]. =A0 no the reboot got things launched. =A0= my server is >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0"sage.thought.org", but the mail, web, and dns stuff ar= e all in >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0a jail, "aristotle.thought.org", so my guess is that th= ings were >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0blocked at sage. =A0i realize that's a really LAME excu= se... :-) >> > >> >> I'm confused. =A0Everything works now? > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0still checking, but seem to. =A0i'll check my /var/log/htt= pd/* files next. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0That excuse was my best SWAG, and nothing more. =A0sometim= es, reinitializing > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0everything, the OS turns out to be smarter than the rest o= f us... > I think they call that 'Skynet'. ;) > >> >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0if ever i find somebody out here in the seattle area to= help me, i'll buy >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0a Dell and built ns1.thought.org as aristotle.thought.o= rg; no mo' jails. >> > >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0meanwhile, if anybody else has some clues re wha' happe= ned, Pulleze clue >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0me in. there was nothing in the error log; it was dated >> > >> >> Perhaps the logs didn't rotate? =A0When was the last time that the >> access log was 'touch'ed? > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0where do i check, glen? =A0my favoite place to grep around= is /var/logs, > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0and the httpd-error.log has some potentially serious [warn= ]ing messages, > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0but i'm not familiar with apache22. There should be a httpd-access.log -- 'ls -a' should show you the last time it was modified, but reading the tail of it should show the last time it was accepting input. > =A0until my network began falling apart > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0in dec, 2007, i was happy as a clam with apache13. =A0jon = horne installed > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A022 and things just-worked. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0can you or anybody else make sense of any of this:: > > [Sat Jun 27 15:50:12 2009] [notice] SIGHUP received. =A0Attempting to res= tart SIGHUP on apache22 is normal, as it is indicating a forceful shutdown (restart). > [Sat Jun 27 15:50:12 2009] [warn] (2)No such file or directory: Failed to= enable > =A0the 'httpready' Accept Filter This is a 'known issue'. Irrelevant to your problems, AFAICT. > [Sat Jun 27 15:50:13 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) = `aristo > tle.thought.org' does NOT match server name!? Edit either /etc/hosts or the vhost file to fix this -- whichever does not contain the `hostname` info. [snip] > httpd-error.log: unmodified, readonly: line 48148 of 48148 [100%]. Try 'mv'ing httpd-error.log to httpd-error.log.bak and restarting apache22 again -- see if this error persists. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 00:31:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDF9106566C for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDDB8FC12 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n5S0V1fC001952; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:31:01 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Glen Barber Message-ID: <20090628003101.GB73794@thought.org> References: <20090627223732.GA73601@thought.org> <4ad871310906271541tf5c8d03t5b2ea46871e6ddfe@mail.gmail.com> <20090627230852.GA71899@thought.org> <4ad871310906271623r65434115o3540d279bdab9db4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4ad871310906271623r65434115o3540d279bdab9db4@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_DOB,RCVD_IN_DOB,URIBL_RHS_DOB autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: apache22: "Can't access startfile" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:31:06 -0000 On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 07:23:33PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > > > > ... especially since rebooting (ideally) shouldn't _fix_ apache22 > problems.. If that works, it is only masking the real problem. > > Do you remember any other major changes to your system or apache22 > since your last reboot or apache update? > other that editing my php files, i touch the computer very little. the last thing i did was to upgrade the hp kayak to 7.2. but this was technically "sage". the kayak is a SCSI box and dmesg spat out some unusual GEOM_LABEL strings, then rm'd several ufsid labels. [?] i don't want to break anything, nor have hardware problems since this is an Old, 1998 box. > -- > Glen Barber -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php The 4.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 01:17:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC831065670 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8EB8FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so2727870ewy.43 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:17:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dOA4dgfUNElI3UIzs0vfHsN3e5BNvHqVXXP9ELpJOVM=; b=qNd/Y/+hIkOBt2Ro+5dQ1cASzWP4+8d6ZncAiGnzk3ONR0SA/HB+JUPH2ydEgi9UpN qMVhEh9hIK+hGjKZNSUXfy7l27ECbXcbj6/kuhDYTpYY8whHl3vBkonSqp/Uz7Y4lgI5 rzGYgIR2rYwA9IQ2H3VuaAoEczu973OnGDG0E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EY0EyBHVJWt4IDWrPfDLBaowTVRIY9QwOuEibsJQbnJ4q4+H38rdcf021yjXEOAFgW eODkVeIiyDrrlv0W91Dbj/Q3r5gAIp59ApX5yvB4+yGjCpVPGcNkm00rvKM37MRMGMmW OFCEw9OehODPUxEsI0uEdbpaRcUD/immECdPs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.19.210 with SMTP id n60mr1587854wen.107.1246151831311; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:17:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A467089.1040404@radel.com> References: <4A4639B0.8080602@webrz.net> <4A467089.1040404@radel.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:17:11 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Jon Radel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Jos Chrispijn , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best practices for securing SSH server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:17:13 -0000 > As I believe has already been answered in this thread, the better connect= ed > a server is to the Internet, the higher its value to several varieties of > miscreants. =A0Given a choice between a server connected via a close to > saturated T1 somewhere in the back waters of the Internet and a server wi= th > multiple 100mbps+ connections to key backbones, somebody interested in > staging DOS attacks or using the server as a base to "explore" other > networks or ... is likely to find the latter server of greater interest. > =A0About the only advantage I can think of for the former is that it's > probably, other things being equal, less likely to be properly maintained > and monitored. Exactly. For example, the "server" in question is a desktop machine at work. I regularly see transfer rates of 13MB/s. It's at a major university, which is by itself another high-risk factor, precisely because there are so many (often weakly protected) high-speed connections. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 01:20:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DA81065673; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2CF8FC22; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from macbook-pro.lan.xcllnt.net (mail.xcllnt.net [75.101.29.67]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KLX007KJD2QER50@asmtp023.mac.com>; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:20:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Marcel Moolenaar In-reply-to: Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:20:49 -0700 Message-id: <2FFFB36F-EFA3-4D92-98A3-692BA2D6F63E@mac.com> References: <20090625110253.GA31443@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <10FCC74D-6D46-4112-AD89-BBB4C5933957@mac.com> To: Ivan Voras X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1067.4) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:20:52 -0000 On Jun 27, 2009, at 4:15 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: > Marcel Moolenaar wrote: >> On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:02 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>> dev_taste(DEV,mirror/gm0) >>> g_part_taste(PART,mirror/gm0) >>> >>> GEOM: mirror/gm0: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. >>> GEOM: mirror/gm0: using the primary only -- recovery suggested. >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> You created the mirror after the GPT, which means you destroyed >> the GPT backup header. gmirror uses the last sector on the disk >> for metadata and that by itself is a cause for various problems. >> It's better to use gmirror per partition. > > Or create the GPT partition inside the gmirror device - then the GPT > backup table will be at last_sector-1, but... > >> You could run into a race condition between GPT and gmirror and >> GPT winning (again the result of gmirror using the last sector >> on a disk for metadata). > > unfortunately this could still happen, and will lead to the same > error if GPT is tasted first, since it is embedded in the first > sector and will assume the whole drive is available to GPT, and will > then proceed to not find its backup data in the last sector. > > It looks to me like GEOM classes should have a "priority" field for > tasting. Any objections to that idea? Using the last sector is not only flawed because it creates a race condition, it's flawed in the assumption that you can always make a geom part of a mirror by storing meta-data on the geom without causing corruption. This whole idea of using the last sector was so that a fully partitioned disk with data could be turned into a mirrored disk. A neat idea, but hardly the basis for a generic mirroring implementation when it silently corrupts a disk. I think it's better to change gmirror to use the first sector on the provider. This never creates a race condition and as such, you don't need to invent a priority scheme, that has it's own set of flaws on top of it. The only downside is that it's not easy to make a fully partitioned and populated disk part of a mirror: one would need to move the data forward one sector to free the first sector. This we can actually do by inserting a GEOM that does it while I/O is still ongoing. The good thing is: we need a class that does exactly this for implementing the "move" verb in gpart. In other words: Solving the problem that putting the metadata in the first sector creates, can and will be re-used in implementing the gpart "move partition" feature. I doubt anyone will complain that the creation of a mirror brings with it a few hours of disk activity that does not inhibit normal operation... -- Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 03:04:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7A21065672 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:04:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebotados@exemys.com) Received: from server2.hostmailing.com (server2.hostmailing.com [200.110.145.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FA48FC0A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:04:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebotados@exemys.com) Received: from web.hostmailing.com ([200.110.145.34] helo=www.hostmailing.com) by server2.hostmailing.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1MKjvt-0007Z2-5E for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:15:57 -0300 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:02:45 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Exemys Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: wh4535 [version 3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Serial to WiFi - Wireless Serial Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: exemys@exemys.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:04:30 -0000 This is a message in multipart MIME format. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 03:24:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E47106564A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEF18FC12 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: from tim-kellerss-macbook-pro.local (ool-18bb798e.dyn.optonline.net [24.187.121.142]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KLX000VFHET4QD0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:54:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:54:29 -0400 From: Tim Kellers To: Beat Siegenthaler Message-id: <4A46DB65.2030102@wallnet.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) Cc: freebsd general questions , Tim Kellers Subject: mailman-with-htdig 2.1.12 does NOW build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:24:31 -0000 > Hi, > > the Makefile try to get the patches for 2.2.12, but the newest from > www.openinfo.co.uk are still 2.1.11 > > > => indexing-2.1.12-0.1.patch.gz doesn't seem to exist in > /usr/ports/distfiles/mailman. > => Attempting to fetch from http://www.openinfo.co.uk/mm/patches/444879/. > fetch: > http://www.openinfo.co.uk/mm/patches/444879/indexing-2.1.12-0.1.patch.gz: > Not Found > => Attempting to fetch from > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/mailman/. > fetch: > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/mailman/indexing-2.1.12-0.1.patch.gz: > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this > => port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/mailman and try again. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mailman. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mailman. > > Maintainer does not answer. > > My three options are: > - Wait > - Build without htdig > - Manually change Makefile for 2.1.12 > > Some suggestions ? > > Kind regards, > Beat > Did you make any progress getting the index and htdig-mailman 2.12 files? I finally downloaded the files for 2.11 and edited the patches replacing mailman 2.11 with 2.12 where ever referenced in the patch files. mailman-with-htdig portupgraded to v 2.12 fine and everything seems to be working as expected. I have both those edited patchfiles if you need them. Tim Kellers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 05:03:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B77106564A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6958FC15 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E91F16C0242; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:03:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5S53mZB001487; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:03:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:03:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Daniel Underwood Message-Id: <20090628070348.8a07299b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4A4639B0.8080602@webrz.net> <4A467089.1040404@radel.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jos Chrispijn , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jon Radel Subject: Re: Best practices for securing SSH server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:03:58 -0000 On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:17:11 -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Exactly. For example, the "server" in question is a desktop machine > at work. I regularly see transfer rates of 13MB/s. It's at a major > university, which is by itself another high-risk factor, precisely > because there are so many (often weakly protected) high-speed > connections. That's a valid point, and I'd like to add that there is some consideration: Servers are usually protected with proper means. This goes especially for UNIX servers. Desktops, on the other hand, can more easily be taken over (especially non-UNIX machines), so if an attacker got his foot inside a network, it's very useful to him. There are even trading platforms where criminals buy and sell whole networks of compromised PCs. Of course, everything happening inside such networks should be seen as what it is: a threat to security. Just imagine some "clever guy" uses telnet inside such a network to configure the server... -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 06:09:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF43106564A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68A38FC16 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from localhost.my.domain (ppp-93-104-38-65.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.38.65]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3856A184EAA35; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:09:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5S69YIV002393; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:09:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:09:33 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Jim Message-ID: <20090628060933.GA2336@current.Sisis.de> References: <80f4f2b20906260737u7768f5a4j9955f78e64789579@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20906260737u7768f5a4j9955f78e64789579@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: QEMU + FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:09:33 -0000 El día Friday, June 26, 2009 a las 10:37:14AM -0400, Jim escribió: > I have installed FreeBSD 7.2 on my notebook in the last week, and > installed QEmu as well. > > I cannot seem to get the network interface working. It works on my > desktop machine, but that is running 7.0 > > looking around, I tried to find some other options, and went here: > http://wiki.freebsd.org/qemu > > and got stuck at this step: > # sysctl net.link.ether.bridge_cfg=fxp0,tap0 > # sysctl net.link.ether.bridge.enable=1 > > because nothing matching "net.link.ether.bridge*" exists. > > Does anyone know of a current good setup document? > > thanks, > -Jim Stapleton Jim, You should have the following kernel modules loaded: # kldload kqemu # kldload if_tap # kldload aio Then you may either used a devd hook to ifconfig the interface or (as I do) start 'qemu' as root. It will execute a shell script when it brings up the interface as: $ cat /usr/local/etc/qemu-ifup #!/bin/sh /sbin/ifconfig $1 172.20.0.1 (for the 'ifconfig' you must be root, or use devd hook, or 'sudo' in the script). That's all. Set the other end of the NIC in the guest system to IP 172.20.0.2 end the communication with the host OS (your FreeBSD 7.2) should be fine. To reach the outerworld from the guest, I'm using NAT in the host OS. Check the FreeBSD handbook how to enable this. HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 08:20:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23EAD106564A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A709F8FC16 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MKpcE-000057-PD; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:19:58 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n5S8Jw7g015259; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:19:58 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0F604FCA505; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:19:53 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:19:53 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Manish Jain Message-ID: <20090628081953.GA41840@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Manish Jain , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4A45D1C5.9060508@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A45D1C5.9060508@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:19:58 +0100 (BST) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Firefox crashes on yahoo.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:20:04 -0000 On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 01:31:09PM +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > > > Hi, > > This seems to be a strange problem with Firefox which I never > encountered on my old system. Both Firefox2 and Firefox3 work well the > other sites I have tried accessing, but crash on navigating to www.yahoo.com > > >/usr/home/emmjanex # firefox3 http://www.yahoo.com & > >[1] 2668 > >/usr/home/emmjanex # NP_Initialize > >New > >SetWindow > >SetWindow > >NewStream > >WriteReady > >Write > >decoding... > >The program 'firefox-bin' received an X Window System error. > >This probably reflects a bug in the program. > >The error was 'BadImplementation (server does not implement operation)'. > > (Details: serial 31 error_code 17 request_code 140 minor_code 5) > > (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; > > that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. > > To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line > > option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful > > backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() > > function.) > > > >[1]+ Exit 1 firefox3 http://www.yahoo.com > > > There is nothing relevant to the crash in Xorg.0.log or console.log > Have you tried Firefox3.5? It's in ports as www/firefox3-devel. I just tried Yahoo! and had no problems. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 08:42:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA34A10656D7 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anton@sng.by) Received: from mail-bw0-f210.google.com (mail-bw0-f210.google.com [209.85.218.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F37F8FC26 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anton@sng.by) Received: by bwz6 with SMTP id 6so284485bwz.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.53.143 with SMTP id m15mr5765962bkg.112.1246178566119; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ROOT (port-103-adslby-pool46.infonet.by [81.25.46.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z10sm5081720fka.5.2009.06.28.01.42.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:42:53 +0300 From: Anton X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.01) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <594762069.20090628114253@sng.by> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:42:47 -0000 Hello freebsd-questions, Please, help: Howto forward packet from Internet to some intranet address with IPFW? -- -- Best regards, Anton = ; [1]mailto:anton@sng.by Administrator Feel free to contact me via ICQ 363780596 via Skype dobryak47 via phone +375 29 3320987 References 1. 3D"mailto:anton@sng.by" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 08:43:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDA61065678 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gs_stoller@juno.com) Received: from outbound-mail.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F8B88FC18 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gs_stoller@juno.com) X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail07.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.147]) by smtpout02.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABFEQKX3AND6XCS for (sender ); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:15:53 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: /s5f1SIGSI3+WdnoYQ8yRNmijqpkul1X0Y74ZitCjyuZbnQ0mneukQ== Received: (from gs_stoller@juno.com) by webmail07.dca.untd.com (jqueuemail) id PK5MYB6Q; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:15:02 PDT Received: from [71.167.150.114] by webmail07.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:14:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [71.167.150.114] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "gs_stoller@juno.com" Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:14:10 GMT To: modulok@gmail.com, zhangweiwu@realss.com X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Message-Id: <20090628.041410.20175.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 1:1:3765460757 X-MAIL-INFO: 3f21c4d189455d895d19458538e031b07051f0c9d049b52dd4999404b1541dd945a465d1316dedf5216d117944848444298464e095e1adc4c1155dd93874a0e40585a1747405b09dd50d61d98444e9cdf5d031a4 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.171.12.147|webmail07.dca.untd.com|outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com|gs_stoller@juno.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scripting suggestion: how to make this command shorter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:43:12 -0000 On 6/27/09, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Hello. I wrote this one-line command to fetch a page from a long uri, > parse it twice: first time get subject & second time get content, and > send it as email to me. > > $ w3m -dump > 'http://search1.taobao.com/browse/33/n-g,w6y4zzjaxxymvjomxy-----------= -----40--commen d-0-all-33.htm?at_topsearch=3D1&ssid=3De-s5' > | grep -A 100 =B6=D4=B1=C8 | mail -a 'Content-Type: text/plain; charse= t=3DUTF-8' -s > '=3D?UTF-8?B?'`w3m -dump > 'http://search1.taobao.com/browse/33/n-g,w6y4zzjaxxymvjomxy-----------= -----40--commen d-0-all-33.htm?at_topsearch=3D1&ssid=3De-s5' > | grep =D5=D2=B5=BD.*=BC=FE | base64 -w0`'?=3D' zhangweiwu@realss.com > > > The stupid part of this script is it fetches the page 2 times and pars= e > 2 times, thus making the command very long. If I can write the command= > in a way that the URI only appear once, then it is easier for me to > maintain it. I plan to put it in cron yet avoid having to modify two > places when the URI changes (and it does!). > > How do you suggest optimizing the one-liner? > Whenever I have to look through a long file more than onc= e, I copy the relevant sections into another file (a RAM file if it is s= hort enough and I have the RAM) and then parse it there as many times as= I need to do it. ____________________________________________________________ Criminal Lawyers - Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOVoKXC2vT8bG75jmaBuBB= qrFnzp3RY2ufk0rwdaSjMZVA5BqOKCM/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 08:47:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363B2106566C for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:47:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC45C8FC0C for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1390605fxm.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:47:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wQrTtqKpwmHTzE+0L/4G5MYCeSdyqLN3AhlgOules3I=; b=S/iK97B8nihGmHVZcpkDyiJwLGFV7NG7c7F7XanaGtH29MaKEDgr2fGC6FJmZ5tHjC sB7ngzrWyuAgD7f1zue/H9btsPYLNVXEoiQK/Rkjm+53SBh7pTYNCHgqewPdv7y2E3ob onFVHtejYZYnxl8h+b1ysmXesST/Rknv0xY6Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OZFP1+D3KVn9kL2086yH7aD5BLM8K+38aWrYegfs/ABel/BZcrTubKoVpQ1iR5wZ69 sHAOpVJSWH0+AptikV+K3J7KRVMpbVg5/ex/5rV6WxdW22tlhrxfezhZZqczwqIyzvaE /q9UZgQ95lq9FlWSmkcNxqtD3t1EzyaaBFLVE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.76.129 with SMTP id c1mr5789300bkk.9.1246178861607; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:47:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <594762069.20090628114253@sng.by> References: <594762069.20090628114253@sng.by> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:47:41 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310906280147x44d22539hcf131d5a1ee4e8d@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Anton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:47:43 -0000 2009/6/28 Anton : > > =A0 Hello freebsd-questions, > > =A0 =A0 Please, help: > > =A0 Howto forward packet from Internet to some intranet address with IPFW= ? > You'll get a better response if you have a subject in the email. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/firewalls-ipfw.html Forwarding is explained here, but not included in the example. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 08:54:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E1E1065680 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:54:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f191.google.com (mail-px0-f191.google.com [209.85.216.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119E28FC14 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:54:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by mail-px0-f191.google.com with SMTP id 29so2672883pxi.3 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:54:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sb3NSE5VWUdrpVXhIh1dtzZBTmB4AFg+zYhyQS2Bngw=; b=I02/lNsy2V1lIscpKdToxsOYIgHVL7Ja/kaufuXxK78MZ/dgmapZkXKaNalzr08ZGg ksC8OErUV8GtZPHiEgZckPHTiQoKqyO+4VdW2qFwce5MHoAnt1EDRRKef083nswnKqTC lYz+iI6DdOgpHuvuE/6WkzI4vLOhOhpgA/5kQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=T+eP96SsAY/CSbS7nvL5C5NPFb3qbIxIU+i4TRN5ajC8xY5g6xMm1zGS2TnhBvjjfU NTUkRdlB1Tpu1r7bJ6xqbzP1oFgWyP+slgVEXUgKl/5kh2yxTBjRceJIRTyDY0SGVx+D BLsODT4brDznP3twXjjPhMQZXY6zFCiSJQTYA= Received: by 10.114.53.3 with SMTP id b3mr9096924waa.112.1246179246309; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pbbi.freebsd.localdomain ([122.162.52.253]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l30sm9398541waf.0.2009.06.28.01.54.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A472FAB.4090305@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:24:03 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090618) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: frank@shute.org.uk, FreeBSD Mailing List References: <4A45D1C5.9060508@gmail.com> <20090628081953.GA41840@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090628081953.GA41840@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Firefox crashes on yahoo.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:54:07 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 01:31:09PM +0530, Manish Jain wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> This seems to be a strange problem with Firefox which I never >> encountered on my old system. Both Firefox2 and Firefox3 work well the >> other sites I have tried accessing, but crash on navigating to www.yahoo.com >> >>> /usr/home/emmjanex # firefox3 http://www.yahoo.com & >>> [1] 2668 >>> /usr/home/emmjanex # NP_Initialize >>> New >>> SetWindow >>> SetWindow >>> NewStream >>> WriteReady >>> Write >>> decoding... >>> The program 'firefox-bin' received an X Window System error. >>> This probably reflects a bug in the program. >>> The error was 'BadImplementation (server does not implement operation)'. >>> (Details: serial 31 error_code 17 request_code 140 minor_code 5) >>> (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; >>> that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. >>> To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line >>> option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful >>> backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() >>> function.) >>> >>> [1]+ Exit 1 firefox3 http://www.yahoo.com >> >> There is nothing relevant to the crash in Xorg.0.log or console.log >> > > Have you tried Firefox3.5? It's in ports as www/firefox3-devel. > > I just tried Yahoo! and had no problems. > > Regards, > Hi Frank, The problem is not restricted to firefox or yahoo.com. There are other sites too where this happens. I built Galeon from ports, and it shows exactly the same behaviour as firefox2/firefox3 for those sites. So does Epiphany (installed from the distribution media). I doubt whether firefox-3.5 could solve the problem. This seems to be a problem with a core library in X or one of the graphics libraries. -- Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-96500-10329 Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 09:07:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDD11065673 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjd@garage.freebsd.pl) Received: from mail.garage.freebsd.pl (chello087206192061.chello.pl [87.206.192.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BD58FC1E for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjd@garage.freebsd.pl) Received: by mail.garage.freebsd.pl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id DAD9245B36; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:49:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (chello087206192061.chello.pl [87.206.192.61]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.garage.freebsd.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA48545683; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:49:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:49:57 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek To: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <20090628084957.GB4159@garage.freebsd.pl> References: <20090625110253.GA31443@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <10FCC74D-6D46-4112-AD89-BBB4C5933957@mac.com> <2FFFB36F-EFA3-4D92-98A3-692BA2D6F63E@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2FFFB36F-EFA3-4D92-98A3-692BA2D6F63E@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Key-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~pjd/pjd.asc X-OS: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT i386 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail.garage.freebsd.pl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=4.5 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.4 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:07:17 -0000 --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 06:20:49PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > Using the last sector is not only flawed because it creates a race > condition, it's flawed in the assumption that you can always make > a geom part of a mirror by storing meta-data on the geom without > causing corruption. This whole idea of using the last sector was > so that a fully partitioned disk with data could be turned into a > mirrored disk. A neat idea, but hardly the basis for a generic > mirroring implementation when it silently corrupts a disk. This wasn't the idea:) People started putting gmirror on top of partitioned disk, because it was easier/simpler/faster than creating mirror, partitioning and copying the data. I for one never put mirror on already partitioned disk. Although it is sometimes safe to use the last sector. Gjournal already looks for UFS and if UFS is in place, it figures out if the last sector is in use - it isn't if partition size is not multiple of UFS block size. > I think it's better to change gmirror to use the first sector on the > provider. This never creates a race condition and as such, you don't > need to invent a priority scheme, that has it's own set of flaws on > top of it. The only downside is that it's not easy to make a fully > partitioned and populated disk part of a mirror: one would need to > move the data forward one sector to free the first sector. This we > can actually do by inserting a GEOM that does it while I/O is still > ongoing. The good thing is: we need a class that does exactly this > for implementing the "move" verb in gpart. There were two reasons to use the last sector instead of first: 1. You want to be able to boot from gmirror. If all your data will be moved forward your boot sectors and kernel will be harder to find. 2. For recovery reasons you may want to turn off gmirror and still be able to access your data. Note that gmirror can handle the case where disk, slice and partition share the same last sector - it simply stores provider size in its metadata, so once it gets disk for tasting it detects its too big and ignores it, then slice will be given for tasting, but it also has larger size than expected and will be ignored as well. Finally partition will be tasted and gmirror configured. --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek http://www.wheel.pl pjd@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFKRy61ForvXbEpPzQRAmOAAJ44Mp928wYkoBPD3p64vr3tA0aW9gCcDqWO Dr4QaHHEB5I33pAqDmt6CWQ= =6fRJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 09:09:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBFF1065687 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:09:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anton@sng.by) Received: from mail-bw0-f210.google.com (mail-bw0-f210.google.com [209.85.218.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8DB8FC13 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anton@sng.by) Received: by bwz6 with SMTP id 6so290208bwz.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.101.13 with SMTP id a13mr5762228bko.89.1246180154680; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ROOT (port-103-adslby-pool46.infonet.by [81.25.46.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm7961323fkx.14.2009.06.28.02.09.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:09:21 +0300 From: Anton X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.01) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1182519864.20090628120921@sng.by> To: Glen Barber In-Reply-To: <4ad871310906280147x44d22539hcf131d5a1ee4e8d@mail.gmail.com> References: <594762069.20090628114253@sng.by> <4ad871310906280147x44d22539hcf131d5a1ee4e8d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: ipfw fwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:09:16 -0000 Hello Glen, Sunday, June 28, 2009, 11:47:41 AM, you wrote: > 2009/6/28 Anton :<= /p> >> Hello freebsd-questions, >> Please, help: >> Howto forward packet from Internet t= o some intranet address with IPFW? > You'll get a better response if you have a subj= ect in the email. [1]> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/firewa= lls-ipfw.html > Forwarding is explained here, but not included = in the example. Though, ipfw fwd is mentioned there - but their is no explanation ^-( -- Best regards, Anton &nbs= p; [2]mailto:anton@sng.by Administrator Feel free to contact me via ICQ 363780596 via Skype dobryak47 via phone +375 29 3320987 References 1. 3D"http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/fi= 2. 3D"mailto:anton@sng.by" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 10:30:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7124D1065688 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jack@jarasoft.net) Received: from raats.xs4all.nl (raats.xs4all.nl [82.95.230.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C7F8FC14 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jack@jarasoft.net) Received: from raats.xs4all.nl (localhost.jarasoft.net [127.0.0.1]) by raats.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7087A22B4E for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:30:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jarasc430 (unknown [10.10.10.20]) by raats.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1FD6C2295B for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:30:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 8.5.374 [270.12.93/2206]); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:30:25 +0200 Message-ID: <59B3C72A7B0948C6A0CD53C1F8958720@jarasc430> From: "Jack Raats" To: References: <594762069.20090628114253@sng.by><4ad871310906280147x44d22539hcf131d5a1ee4e8d@mail.gmail.com> <1182519864.20090628120921@sng.by> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:30:25 +0200 Organization: JaRaSoft, Steenbergen, Nederland MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Relayed-By: GPGrelay Version 0.959 (Win32) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on orac.jarasoft.net Subject: BIND X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jack Raats List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:30:26 -0000 This morning I tried to install BIND, the DNS server. I downloaded the handbook (English version) and tried to follow the instructions giving in the handbook. But the handbook is outdated OR FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 is not correct. I'm missing make-localhost in /etc/namedb. Can any help me??? Thanks Jack From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 10:34:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C7F1065673 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D3F8FC17 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5SAY83c077075; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:34:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 69B76BAAC; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:34:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:34:08 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Manish Jain Message-ID: <20090628103408.GA42130@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A45D1C5.9060508@gmail.com> <20090628081953.GA41840@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4A472FAB.4090305@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A472FAB.4090305@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: frank@shute.org.uk, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Firefox crashes on yahoo.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:34:16 -0000 --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 02:24:03PM +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > > Have you tried Firefox3.5? It's in ports as www/firefox3-devel. > >=20 > > I just tried Yahoo! and had no problems. I tried yahoo with firefox3 on 7.2-RELEASE-p2 amd64 without problems. > The problem is not restricted to firefox or yahoo.com. There are other=20 > sites too where this happens. I built Galeon from ports, and it shows=20 > exactly the same behaviour as firefox2/firefox3 for those sites. So does= =20 > Epiphany (installed from the distribution media). >=20 > I doubt whether firefox-3.5 could solve the problem. This seems to be a= =20 > problem with a core library in X or one of the graphics libraries. Are your ports up-to-date? Use portsnap(8) [first time: 'portsnap fetch extract', afterwards 'portsnap fetch update'] to update your ports tree and then portmaster(8) ['portmaster -a -B -d']. If your ports are up-to-date, try rebuilding libX11 and the ports it depends on ['portmaster -f -x libX11']. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpHRx8ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWOrwCeM37p/xtvXveemFH/gzsWK1au /BcAn3PprI30qRXhESh78t3XltjdeVXQ =swQ2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 11:13:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E4C1065672 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anton@sng.by) Received: from mail-bw0-f210.google.com (mail-bw0-f210.google.com [209.85.218.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471888FC16 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anton@sng.by) Received: by bwz6 with SMTP id 6so317015bwz.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.124.7 with SMTP id s7mr5775796bkr.189.1246187633179; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ROOT (port-103-adslby-pool46.infonet.by [81.25.46.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f31sm3336918fkf.38.2009.06.28.04.13.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:14:00 +0300 From: Anton X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.01) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <499941928.20090628141400@sng.by> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: IPFW: Need some help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:13:55 -0000 Hello all, I'm new to *nix and now, while configuring IPFW Firewall on FreeBSD 7.2 = has stuck in a problem: After packet from my network is passed to natd demon - it is returning t= o firewall (it is normal, as I think ;-) ), but I see another abnormal thin= g: when it is returned to firewall, it does not come under rule which state= s to allow packet from some host in my network, and goes under rule which a= llows packets from FreeBSD box. I.e.: packet from 192.168.0.2, directed to 86.57.250.18 comes to freebsd= box. First, it comes to rule, which NATs it to interface ng0. Then, after = NAT rule, there is rule, which allows packet flow from 192.168.0.2 to 86.57= .250.18 out via ng0. But, IPFW does not show, that any packet is allowed by= this rule - is rather shows that packets are allowed by another rule: allo= w all from me to any. Need help in explaining in this problem, and how to alter the things in = the way i need it (if it is real) -- -- Best regards, Anton = ; [1]mailto:anton@sng.by Administrator Feel free to contact me via ICQ 363780596 via Skype dobryak47 via phone +375 29 3320987 References 1. 3D"mailto:anton@sng.by" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 11:36:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4F2106564A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FD48FC16 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5SBa6Cw063306; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:36:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n5SBa6Cw063306 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1246188974; bh=4cwODaBH44NZ3mriDFPR2IX1kS/o67h8jz8ghLSIUjQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A475599.40809@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sun ,=2028=20Jun=202009=2012:35:53=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20 |Organization:=20Infracaninophile |User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.22=20(X11/20090625)|MIME-Versio n:=201.0|To:=20Jack=20Raats=20|CC:=20freebsd-qu estions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20BIND|References:=20<594762069 .20090628114253@sng.by><4ad871310906280147x44d22539hcf131d5a1ee4e8 d@mail.gmail.com>=09<1182519864.20090628120921@sng.by>=20<59B3C72A 7B0948C6A0CD53C1F8958720@jarasc430>|In-Reply-To:=20<59B3C72A7B0948 C6A0CD53C1F8958720@jarasc430>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content -Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20prot ocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"-------- ----enig78D3CA1E414324A3F48F9756"; b=NJHPj6XN+hTtGHfLQAK1UPVUZ5yqWMi1niBdyOm/MVyu0dDhaIA//HBy/bWqZRwh+ CWe5lM032eMBf5UjJgM4qoFDaPYTR2BQQx8OibD4RzvSOYNU2J+IHr97uyyXk83nZ4 poUxl4rZ14TAknnsYbXgBOknO9vIH5iTLW+jbFwc= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A475599.40809@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:35:53 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090625) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack Raats References: <594762069.20090628114253@sng.by><4ad871310906280147x44d22539hcf131d5a1ee4e8d@mail.gmail.com> <1182519864.20090628120921@sng.by> <59B3C72A7B0948C6A0CD53C1F8958720@jarasc430> In-Reply-To: <59B3C72A7B0948C6A0CD53C1F8958720@jarasc430> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig78D3CA1E414324A3F48F9756" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:36:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig78D3CA1E414324A3F48F9756 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jack Raats wrote: > This morning I tried to install BIND, the DNS server. > I downloaded the handbook (English version) and tried to follow the=20 > instructions giving in the handbook. > But the handbook is outdated OR FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 is not correct. > I'm missing make-localhost in /etc/namedb. >=20 > Can any help me??? Your copy of the handbook out of date. Try following these instructions:= http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-dns.htm= l Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig78D3CA1E414324A3F48F9756 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkpHVaYACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwEzACfe10HdT1T2hBAKJjWShyPzbgQ iFAAmweQVR+iq6TRJ8/WeN+sA4KzIEkm =n+ze -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig78D3CA1E414324A3F48F9756-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 11:52:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66871106566C for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:52:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from no-spam@people.net.au) Received: from smtp-01.syd.people.net.au (smtp-01.syd.people.net.au [218.214.225.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2BD58FC21 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from no-spam@people.net.au) Received: (qmail 27804 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2009 11:19:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bigblack) (218.214.176.70) by smtp-01.syd.people.net.au with SMTP; 28 Jun 2009 11:19:56 -0000 From: Ian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:54:26 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart11130015.C7zP3OlNES"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200906282054.33434.no-spam@people.net.au> Subject: named startup problems upgrading from 7.1p4 to 7.1p5 or 7.1p6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:52:01 -0000 --nextPart11130015.C7zP3OlNES Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I've been meaning to sort this out since the release of 7.1p5, but only= =20 just got around to it - I have an installation of 7.1 that runs bind and ha= s=20 been working fine up until I tried to update the system to 7.1p5 (using=20 freebsd-update). As soon as I apply the update & reboot, named loads but th= e=20 startup script hangs. If I press Ctrl+C, the system continues to boot. If I then run /etc/rc.d/na= med=20 start, named starts, but again the script hangs. I can do DNS lookups while= =20 named is running, so it seems to be functioning ok. I tried adding various echo statements to /etc/rc.d/named and found that th= e=20 script seems to run right through. The hang occurs where /etc/rc.subr echoe= s=20 out "Starting named" after the named script has run and that's where things= =20 seem to stop! Nothing else that is started by the rc.d scripts hangs, so I'= m=20 guessing /etc/rc.subr is ok. I did a diff of /etc/rc.d/named before & after the upgrade from p4 to p5 (o= r=20 p6 which has the same issue) and there are no changes to the file. Nothing seems to be logged anywhere that shows a problem, so I really have = no=20 idea what to check next. The only named entry in rc.conf is named_enable=3D"YES". Doing a freebsd-up= date=20 rollback restores normal operation and given that bind actually loads 7 see= ms=20 to work apart fromthe hanging script, I suspect there's nothing wrong with = my=20 bind configuration.=20 Any suggestions? Cheers, =2D- Ian gpg key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/no-spam.asc --nextPart11130015.C7zP3OlNES Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkpHUvEACgkQPUlnmbKkJ6DtagCgrVkYYtCq5h7B1ES3YcKSzYxW pYsAn3WqW6otxBlALp6cycmraalhm70z =nc6e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart11130015.C7zP3OlNES-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 12:03:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89C410657F7 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com (mail-gx0-f210.google.com [209.85.217.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2548FC16 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so4321355gxk.19 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:03:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0S+JcVIH0AWIiOKEqNAjrQUn6JOJJTZcq1ctwfwYmqQ=; b=t43bHNqU+eozHlMEfAFQyvL57o06J48GHAQF2HBKW58PoeHPssPPqbmPTbuncKtKgN 42v3lUmchc4P/2gMx1h1eFbDqGCSl7vMiZI3o0ICgzKodcyEI6K0sise8oNnLPPf2jdD bsFu8/EhPD00Mbaa6zthokItxJ977KwBK5AUw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eGXiFESnlqTF3/93Snwb2OCsyJo20UVAM/CzsjVzDl4rzIAjamTfIr5TJX/f4PEVYn nNoMFmU+63WA6Lx5ULlP5fWKl0pl4/t42JYCVCKWlavAM07lan1rZ7wNUNr+/pf68rDq SzhhTWqkLvfg4bepoZa3jw07/w0qQw0TMHVFE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.74.2 with SMTP id b2mr2180199ybl.279.1246190625106; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:03:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <499941928.20090628141400@sng.by> References: <499941928.20090628141400@sng.by> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:03:45 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: Anton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW: Need some help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:03:50 -0000 2009/6/28 Anton : > > =A0 Hello all, > > =A0 I'm new to *nix and now, while configuring IPFW Firewall on FreeBSD > =A0 7.2 =A0has stuck in a problem: > > =A0 After packet from my network is passed to natd demon - it is returnin= g > =A0 t o firewall (it is normal, as I think ;-) ), but I see another > =A0 abnormal thin g: when it is returned to firewall, it does not come > =A0 under rule which state s to allow packet from some host in my > =A0 network, and goes under rule which a llows packets from FreeBSD box. > > =A0 I.e.: packet from 192.168.0.2, directed to 86.57.250.18 comes to > =A0 freebsd box. First, it comes to rule, which NATs it to interface ng0. > =A0 Then, after =A0NAT rule, there is rule, which allows packet flow from > =A0 192.168.0.2 to 86.57 .250.18 out via ng0. But, IPFW does not show, > =A0 that any packet is allowed by this rule - is rather shows that > =A0 packets are allowed by another rule: allo w all from me to any. > I'm no IPFW expert, but it seems to me that the packets are already in and NAT'd. Then they're being redirected internally. Thus being "allowed from 'you' to any" (Don't take this explanation as true. It's merely my understanding from the brief look at the link Mr, Barber sent you, which you read . . . right?) > =A0 Need help in explaining in this problem, and how to alter the things > =A0 in =A0the way i need it (if it is real) Two suggestions for getting more specific help: 1) Look around on the web. There appear to be many discussion about IPFW and NAT. (eg., http://freebsd.rogness.net/redirect.cgi?basic/nat.html). 2) Post your ruleset. This way, folk will know what to "alter." > > =A0 -- > > =A0 -- > > =A0 Best regards, > > =A0 =A0Anton =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ; =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[1]= mailto:anton@sng.by > > =A0 =A0Administrator > > =A0 Feel free to contact me > > =A0 via ICQ 363780596 > > =A0 via Skype dobryak47 > > =A0 via phone +375 29 3320987 > > References > > =A0 1. 3D"mailto:anton@sng.by" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 12:14:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EAC106566C for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E455A8FC13 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5SCDtld063889; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:13:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n5SCDtld063889 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1246191236; bh=yKl+hCfJzi4isbjf3YbDCbwTEkuXv1//JsXPZ6F4tpk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A475E7D.6000907@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2028=20Jun=202009=2013:13:49=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.22=20(X11/20090625)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Ian=20|CC:=20freebsd-quest ions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20named=20startup=20problems=20upg rading=20from=207.1p4=20to=207.1p5=20or=207.1p6|References:=20<200 906282054.33434.no-spam@people.net.au>|In-Reply-To:=20<20090628205 4.33434.no-spam@people.net.au>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Conten t-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20pro tocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------- -----enig3252513DCA99169A601B43E4"; b=IL1sREK+T03gUcqjTFxbhNVgVOXfs5INIc+Obu+xbQFxrHm/4I0olCaOaoQZycEk7 0OvL5gGkpr8u3mux/Uh1zW/pc1OskadUAw2Jj+CKVNtsYo3U8ZHIaMGlRO7abRHLhW xMqKhpOcFCX3HEpcRQZdvNHmmC03dgTZ3RrAci5I= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A475E7D.6000907@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:13:49 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090625) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian References: <200906282054.33434.no-spam@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <200906282054.33434.no-spam@people.net.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3252513DCA99169A601B43E4" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named startup problems upgrading from 7.1p4 to 7.1p5 or 7.1p6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:14:03 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3252513DCA99169A601B43E4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian wrote: > Hi, I've been meaning to sort this out since the release of 7.1p5, but = only=20 > just got around to it - I have an installation of 7.1 that runs bind an= d has=20 > been working fine up until I tried to update the system to 7.1p5 (using= =20 > freebsd-update). As soon as I apply the update & reboot, named loads bu= t the=20 > startup script hangs. >=20 > If I press Ctrl+C, the system continues to boot. If I then run /etc/rc.= d/named=20 > start, named starts, but again the script hangs. I can do DNS lookups w= hile=20 > named is running, so it seems to be functioning ok. > I tried adding various echo statements to /etc/rc.d/named and found tha= t the=20 > script seems to run right through. The hang occurs where /etc/rc.subr e= choes=20 > out "Starting named" after the named script has run and that's where th= ings=20 > seem to stop! Nothing else that is started by the rc.d scripts hangs, s= o I'm=20 > guessing /etc/rc.subr is ok. >=20 > I did a diff of /etc/rc.d/named before & after the upgrade from p4 to p= 5 (or=20 > p6 which has the same issue) and there are no changes to the file. > Nothing seems to be logged anywhere that shows a problem, so I really h= ave no=20 > idea what to check next. >=20 > The only named entry in rc.conf is named_enable=3D"YES". Doing a freebs= d-update=20 > rollback restores normal operation and given that bind actually loads 7= seems=20 > to work apart fromthe hanging script, I suspect there's nothing wrong w= ith my=20 > bind configuration.=20 >=20 > Any suggestions? Are you sure it's not the thing which starts immediately *after* named th= at is hanging? Try running: # rcorder /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d/*=20 and see what should come next. Note this command shows the order in whic= h all of the rc scripts in those directories would run, not just the ones y= ou have enabled in rc.conf, so you may well have to skip a few lines until you ge= t to something that is enabled. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig3252513DCA99169A601B43E4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkpHXoMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzeyQCeMKrDsuQqW7I2tPFrcbJ1Md69 PbQAn0oe/TIgD+zJjA8N51vpgbW2ReVC =OR1b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3252513DCA99169A601B43E4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 12:35:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0621065672 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from no-spam@people.net.au) Received: from smtp-01.syd.people.net.au (smtp-01.syd.people.net.au [218.214.225.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 858AB8FC0A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:35:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from no-spam@people.net.au) Received: (qmail 3732 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2009 12:29:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bigblack) (218.214.176.70) by smtp-01.syd.people.net.au with SMTP; 28 Jun 2009 12:29:38 -0000 From: Ian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:04:08 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200906282054.33434.no-spam@people.net.au> <4A475E7D.6000907@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A475E7D.6000907@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5826663.H7HONKa0Cf"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200906282204.14136.no-spam@people.net.au> Cc: Subject: Re: named startup problems upgrading from 7.1p4 to 7.1p5 or 7.1p6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:35:02 -0000 --nextPart5826663.H7HONKa0Cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:43:49 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Ian wrote: > > Hi, I've been meaning to sort this out since the release of 7.1p5, but > > only just got around to it - I have an installation of 7.1 that runs bi= nd > > and has been working fine up until I tried to update the system to 7.1p5 > > (using freebsd-update). As soon as I apply the update & reboot, named > > loads but the startup script hangs. > > > > If I press Ctrl+C, the system continues to boot. If I then run > > /etc/rc.d/named start, named starts, but again the script hangs. I can = do > > DNS lookups while named is running, so it seems to be functioning ok. > > I tried adding various echo statements to /etc/rc.d/named and found that > > the script seems to run right through. The hang occurs where /etc/rc.su= br > > echoes out "Starting named" after the named script has run and that's > > where things seem to stop! Nothing else that is started by the rc.d > > scripts hangs, so I'm guessing /etc/rc.subr is ok. > > > > I did a diff of /etc/rc.d/named before & after the upgrade from p4 to p5 > > (or p6 which has the same issue) and there are no changes to the file. > > Nothing seems to be logged anywhere that shows a problem, so I really > > have no idea what to check next. > > > > The only named entry in rc.conf is named_enable=3D"YES". Doing a > > freebsd-update rollback restores normal operation and given that bind > > actually loads 7 seems to work apart fromthe hanging script, I suspect > > there's nothing wrong with my bind configuration. > > > > Any suggestions? > > Are you sure it's not the thing which starts immediately *after* named th= at > is hanging? Try running: > > # rcorder /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d/* > > and see what should come next. Note this command shows the order in which > all of the rc scripts in those directories would run, not just the ones y= ou > have enabled in rc.conf, so you may well have to skip a few lines until y= ou > get to something that is enabled. > > Cheers, > > Matthew Well the fact that if I run /etc/rc.d/named manually after the system has= =20 booted, the script also hangs suggests it's not the next process I have just check however & ntpdate is the next one in the list to be start= ed=20 and that does start correctly - you can see it report the clock being=20 adjusted. Also, when you do a Ctrl+C to break the named script on bootup, i= t=20 says "Script /etc/rc.d/named interrupted". Something I've just realised is that named stays loaded even when you 'brea= k'=20 the script. on bootup and DNS lookups work (I didn't think that was the cas= e=20 originally, but it is). Cheers, =2D-=20 Ian gpg key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/no-spam.asc --nextPart5826663.H7HONKa0Cf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkpHY0YACgkQPUlnmbKkJ6DvpwCfaorg3o0afbbo9QQfLSWaSl8O 0icAn1DsiLkL+khvM7PDoXmiX8zZqvIq =LhKL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5826663.H7HONKa0Cf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 12:47:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DCF1065670 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay10.ispgateway.de (smtprelay10.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C878FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from [93.135.206.69] (helo=yeti.mininet) by smtprelay10.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1MKtn4-0007er-87; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:47:26 +0200 X-Mailer: emacs 22.3.1 (via feedmail 8 I); VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.3.1 From: "Markus Hoenicka" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19015.26367.921360.152395@yeti.mininet> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:50:07 +0200 To: Mel Flynn In-Reply-To: <200906251955.11905.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <19012.105.500949.723890@yeti.mininet> <200906251955.11905.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Df-Sender: 472582 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfburn fails with 'Undefined symbol "__malloc_lock"' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:47:28 -0000 Mel Flynn writes: > -PP will fail if for some reason the package is not available on the servers. > It is better to use -P when crossing major releases, so that any restricted > packages that are unavailable on the buildservers are built from source. > I suspect this is the root of the problem, though they look to be available: I resorted to reinstalling everything, using -Pk instead of -PP this time. This apparently helped fix this problem. thanks Markus -- Markus Hoenicka markus.hoenicka@cats.de (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 12:52:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6377C1065673 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from smtprelay11.ispgateway.de (smtprelay11.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172458FC0A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from [93.135.206.69] (helo=yeti.mininet) by smtprelay11.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1MKts4-0002IT-8c; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:52:36 +0200 X-Mailer: emacs 22.3.1 (via feedmail 8 I); VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.3.1 From: "Markus Hoenicka" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19015.26678.200962.56208@yeti.mininet> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:55:18 +0200 To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <4A441109.3040308@otenet.gr> References: <19012.105.500949.723890@yeti.mininet> <4A441109.3040308@otenet.gr> X-Df-Sender: 472582 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xfburn fails with 'Undefined symbol "__malloc_lock"' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:52:38 -0000 Manolis Kiagias writes: > Upgrading between major versions requires all installed ports to be > rebuilt, so they get linked to the new versions of the libraries. > I suppose you missed this step, older apps may still work but there is a > problem installing new ones. > [...] > (AFAIR, if you upgraded via source, you will also need to run make > delete-old-libs in /usr/src after successfully recompiling ports) This was kind of an experience, as make delete-old-libs almost bricked my laptop. Apparently portupgrade failed to upgrade quite a few apps, for whatever reasons. I deleted all cached packages to make sure portupgrade -P would fetch the newest. I also had to coerce /usr/bin/objformat to return "elf" as the installed objformat prevented building many ports that could not be installed as packages. Anyway, everything seems to work ok now. thanks a lot Markus -- Markus Hoenicka markus.hoenicka@cats.de (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 13:18:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75ADA1065674; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A482B8FC19; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so2920753ewy.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:18:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XnO120P/HEuzlrl0SjLrmgGQAT1/OAERpkN0C9fVH4k=; b=ClsfAbS8JfgxAZ2JRYUSnVrmLYLmr9fKoXSLItX09wA/Fo+D7Rg/cBvmi2WwQLgy8k 1TdxxEnO6BjY7HgrHQOZVAj/Y7QNM3I1tjDiQ6qOWm3js1IwufyVF+1co74mpEF7RZTt wY2H4lzK7mUQe/JQkzeHKWcQKpZdCWPRCIbSY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=irAcrXBOHnWjJq2i0np42qbeZyIsFat0bje6pcbj9GZIYbHyejQxUptF3gnzH5UKhb 7hRyLyhQWta8f/27IcJmQe84eYieMh23bYzhYjvfsRQIecmaW7vDHhQfuW3IpX4NIKK7 rJDOrWAW/NVUC8d92drewyMX3iyRqsG+HThvY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ivoras@gmail.com Received: by 10.210.91.7 with SMTP id o7mr2068474ebb.69.1246193482137; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:51:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2FFFB36F-EFA3-4D92-98A3-692BA2D6F63E@mac.com> References: <20090625110253.GA31443@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <10FCC74D-6D46-4112-AD89-BBB4C5933957@mac.com> <2FFFB36F-EFA3-4D92-98A3-692BA2D6F63E@mac.com> From: Ivan Voras Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:51:02 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0a1d4c3dc2ba9046 Message-ID: <9bbcef730906280551r26e30b61oc84acdd02d94743e@mail.gmail.com> To: Marcel Moolenaar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:18:38 -0000 2009/6/28 Marcel Moolenaar : > Using the last sector is not only flawed because it creates a race > condition, it's flawed in the assumption that you can always make > a geom part of a mirror by storing meta-data on the geom without > causing corruption. This whole idea of using the last sector was > so that a fully partitioned disk with data could be turned into a > mirrored disk. A neat idea, but hardly the basis for a generic > mirroring implementation when it silently corrupts a disk. > > I think it's better to change gmirror to use the first sector on the > provider. Yes, it would be cleaner to implement but it would also make the mirrored devices unbootable. But maybe the class of users needing the functionality is smaller now. > This never creates a race condition and as such, you don't > need to invent a priority scheme, that has it's own set of flaws on > top of it. The only downside is that it's not easy to make a fully > partitioned and populated disk part of a mirror: one would need to > move the data forward one sector to free the first sector. This we > can actually do by inserting a GEOM that does it while I/O is still > ongoing. The good thing is: we need a class that does exactly this > for implementing the "move" verb in gpart. Looks too complicated and fragile. Maybe there's a need for metadata-less automatic mirrors in some way, by storing the configuration somewhere else, possibly in /etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 13:37:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C081065670 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atr0x23@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f210.google.com (mail-bw0-f210.google.com [209.85.218.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1E88FC13 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:37:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atr0x23@gmail.com) Received: by bwz6 with SMTP id 6so350757bwz.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:37:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=QxVVpDGWtWj5NaiqIF2XP6VxD5DeDLrZeO/ckrrkd20=; b=Ltdy82mxQaG2qzutLUEcFf0b2nC7Am085BhZwYscFGUHyRrs0iwYD+mik6ixPFUcnb Tl8JD9J6Rqva4mfPLJIH8T1hw+3qwm6viUYmzrPfbutBEMyJa9/UPYkPhd5xzbZNVATz e042j/xs7UE8pauqA/SdwBd6YzyB6UFxsSLhs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=wmbxh2r0xa5Hc/3ZmCamVPLC+kWBtUM8YoQlve5bVdokqdCII2OtIHEpqheg5DVvqH xwSYtqsuQm2z0JfDRxSjGlkfEMMlcOo99tUm2mlIz1OSVF0z08GlDIIoyhUviggUDyeD 1Iow/rpkQuKWwuUu+mylapaR8V9Uw3tzfZItM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.136 with SMTP id a8mr3906715faq.101.1246194735672; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:12:15 +0300 Message-ID: From: thanos trompoukis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: mysql error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:37:15 -0000 Hi all, I am new with FreeBSD and I have a problem with mysql. I have 6.2Release i386 I am running mysql 5.0.27 and It worked perfectly until the time that I formated /tmp (for some other reason) and now when I am trying to connect on mysql *I get this:* *[root@leonidas:/]$ mysql ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock2' (38)* *and when I edit /var/db/mysql/leonidas.MSHOME.err I see this:* *090628 14:49:19 mysqld started 090628 14:49:19 [Warning] Ignoring user change to 'ser=mysql' because the user was set to 'mysql' e 090628 14:49:20 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 43655 090628 14:49:20 [ERROR] Can't start server : Bind on unix socket: Permission denied 090628 14:49:20 [ERROR] Do you already have another mysqld server running on socket: /tmp/mysql.soc 090628 14:49:20 [ERROR] Aborting 090628 14:49:20 InnoDB: Starting shutdown... 090628 14:49:22 InnoDB: Shutdown completed; log sequence number 0 43655 090628 14:49:22 [Note] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Shutdown complete 090628 14:49:22 mysqld ended *I have checked /tmp and there is no mysql.sock file. (because I formated /tmp immagine) I wouldn't like to loose my database, and I have no idea.... What I have to do? Thanx! :D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 13:43:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D28106568B; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:43:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spambox@haruhiism.net) Received: from fujibayashi.jp (karas.fujibayashi.jp [77.221.159.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1359F8FC1C; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:43:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spambox@haruhiism.net) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ppp91-122-47-189.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru [91.122.47.189]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by fujibayashi.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6464178F98; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:25:30 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <4A476F56.2030504@haruhiism.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:25:42 +0400 From: Aisaka Taiga User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras References: <20090625110253.GA31443@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <10FCC74D-6D46-4112-AD89-BBB4C5933957@mac.com> <2FFFB36F-EFA3-4D92-98A3-692BA2D6F63E@mac.com> <9bbcef730906280551r26e30b61oc84acdd02d94743e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9bbcef730906280551r26e30b61oc84acdd02d94743e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org, Marcel Moolenaar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:43:52 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > Yes, it would be cleaner to implement but it would also make the > mirrored devices unbootable. > But maybe the class of users needing the functionality is smaller now. > Most dedicated server providers can't afford to use hardware RAID systems because that would drastically increase the price of a single system; yet many customers want mirroring. > Looks too complicated and fragile. Maybe there's a need for > metadata-less automatic mirrors in some way, by storing the > configuration somewhere else, possibly in /etc. This might be dangerous in some cases. Imagine booting with two drives swapped; such a configuration might lead to data corruption on a volume which was enumerated incorrectly or swapped. -- Kamigishi Rei KREI-RIPE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 13:57:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91101065673 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D258FC1A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5SDvEAL009487; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:57:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n5SDvEAL009487 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1246197435; bh=DY0yN7XIJ6210KjBJML9P1JcerMO0RpwLjh9fHPWQIM=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A4776B3.3060503@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2028=20Jun=202009=2014:57:07=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.22=20(X11/20090625)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Ian=20|CC:=20freebsd-quest ions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20named=20startup=20problems=20upg rading=20from=207.1p4=20to=207.1p5=20or=207.1p6|References:=20<200 906282054.33434.no-spam@people.net.au>=20<4A475E7D.6000907@infraca ninophile.co.uk>=20<200906282204.14136.no-spam@people.net.au>|In-R eply-To:=20<200906282204.14136.no-spam@people.net.au>|X-Enigmail-V ersion:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpg p-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0 A=20boundary=3D"------------enig46E8FCAA84BAB240F8264431"; b=MSCV5vngyCFZ8YnlCTnCyhR9E2b7O7jn9a/gXM1GvygfaQiQD3UlhZv1NEH26Bghu h69ZhBTKH5VyeZoYmIp4zCAbePPww81yCkA1bgxB/+fk4IGaqJucX6LbWwx3sZMGC/ daPEl/QEhK3NljRIGR9rzpoQ/GRJR/E8gjA8zG94= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A4776B3.3060503@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:57:07 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090625) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian References: <200906282054.33434.no-spam@people.net.au> <4A475E7D.6000907@infracaninophile.co.uk> <200906282204.14136.no-spam@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <200906282204.14136.no-spam@people.net.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig46E8FCAA84BAB240F8264431" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named startup problems upgrading from 7.1p4 to 7.1p5 or 7.1p6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:57:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig46E8FCAA84BAB240F8264431 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian wrote: > Well the fact that if I run /etc/rc.d/named manually after the system = has=20 > booted, the script also hangs suggests it's not the next process > I have just check however & ntpdate is the next one in the list to be s= tarted=20 > and that does start correctly - you can see it report the clock being=20 > adjusted. Also, when you do a Ctrl+C to break the named script on bootu= p, it=20 > says "Script /etc/rc.d/named interrupted". >=20 > Something I've just realised is that named stays loaded even when you '= break'=20 > the script. on bootup and DNS lookups work (I didn't think that was the= case=20 > originally, but it is). Hmmm....=20 Anything interesting from named in the system logs? You might want to enable /var/log/all.log by following the instructions in /etc/syslog.conf= and then see what output you get by bouncing named. It's usually pretty good at pointing out exactly what it thinks the problem is. You could also try running: # /bin/sh -x /etc/rc.d/named start -- make sure named isn't running when you do that. There will be quite a lot of output as the rc system loads all of the various config files, but you should be able to trace exactly where it's got to when it does ha= ng. You're using the system-supplied copy of bind aren't you? Have you got a valid /etc/named/rndc.conf or /etc/named/rndc.key file so you can use rndc(8)? If not, try running: # rndc-confgen > /etc/namedb/rndc.conf and then cut'n'paste the indicated key and controls statements from that file into named.conf, stripping out the comment characters as you do (of = course). If you're using one of the ports versions of named, do exactly the same thing, but copy or link rndc.conf into /usr/local/etc/ as well. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig46E8FCAA84BAB240F8264431 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkpHdroACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxQjgCfVIxECe6MqEpm4tgw0Dwx28Wu UrQAn3cZc1kR3nhfqZAQuuJYPvaqDYJv =ME+i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig46E8FCAA84BAB240F8264431-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 14:01:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769C5106564A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f191.google.com (mail-px0-f191.google.com [209.85.216.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FF68FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by mail-px0-f191.google.com with SMTP id 29so2789974pxi.3 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:01:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2h5d1+WbUgZxVA39Dd+nM5koMf0wfVsfJW0WCIWkER8=; b=Spy4BZNKMSLPjFjZjZBFOXn7Hv1tu478HHCYgnSDNvO+etfuWXZvPYqF+hHKqQJrjD nAegnXieaN7K4MdKDIKVRjLm6uJf0AU3j19h+SY+ExTn+L3lczLGX8m61jMO/Zmc66em R+JOEgJ4ZnybyCDYMTc6mY3FcuAvMqdztvNnY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Hm4amBo/Y78cqa1TUVuZpRUZ9DkwN2L/CfvcoUPrCBoiufayQOQBUxUwDNkrw4h8ps Q/UhyX5B8rHDSe5cmmJw6CTP3Izoe44rEe/4zE4sA+ej0UibPUJfycHQTYGKA4I0pHOz 6LiE/9LAtC8aWMkVwD+hbuwr4ZQDKH2SgrxMc= Received: by 10.115.93.18 with SMTP id v18mr9841419wal.100.1246197717130; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ([122.162.52.253]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l30sm9860771waf.0.2009.06.28.07.01.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A4777D3.5030301@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:31:55 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4A45D1C5.9060508@gmail.com> <20090628081953.GA41840@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4A472FAB.4090305@gmail.com> <20090628103408.GA42130@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090628103408.GA42130@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: frank@shute.org.uk, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Firefox crashes on yahoo.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:01:58 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 02:24:03PM +0530, Manish Jain wrote: >>> Have you tried Firefox3.5? It's in ports as www/firefox3-devel. >>> >>> I just tried Yahoo! and had no problems. > > I tried yahoo with firefox3 on 7.2-RELEASE-p2 amd64 without problems. > >> The problem is not restricted to firefox or yahoo.com. There are other >> sites too where this happens. I built Galeon from ports, and it shows >> exactly the same behaviour as firefox2/firefox3 for those sites. So does >> Epiphany (installed from the distribution media). >> >> I doubt whether firefox-3.5 could solve the problem. This seems to be a >> problem with a core library in X or one of the graphics libraries. > > Are your ports up-to-date? Use portsnap(8) [first time: 'portsnap fetch > extract', afterwards 'portsnap fetch update'] to update your ports tree and > then portmaster(8) ['portmaster -a -B -d']. > > If your ports are up-to-date, try rebuilding libX11 and the ports it > depends on ['portmaster -f -x libX11']. > > Roland Hi Roland, I traced the problem. It's related to flash. When I disable the flash plugin, Firefox works smoothly. I suspect a lot of sites are using a new version of flash, which doesn't go down well with the existing browsers. I run portsnap and portmaster through a daily cron, so the ports directory is always up-to-date. -- Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-96500-10329 Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 14:14:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756301065670 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-cloud1.xs4all.nl (smtp-cloud1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074378FC28 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from [213.84.242.160] ([213.84.242.160:50034] helo=slackbox.xs4all.nl) by smtp-cloud1.xs4all.nl (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTP id CE/BC-08282-5DA774A4; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:14:45 +0200 Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2D48ABA7E; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:14:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:14:45 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Manish Jain Message-ID: <20090628141445.GA59572@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A45D1C5.9060508@gmail.com> <20090628081953.GA41840@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4A472FAB.4090305@gmail.com> <20090628103408.GA42130@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A4777D3.5030301@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A4777D3.5030301@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: frank@shute.org.uk, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Firefox crashes on yahoo.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:14:47 -0000 --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 07:31:55PM +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > I traced the problem. It's related to flash. When I disable the=20 > flash plugin, Firefox works smoothly. > > I suspect a lot of sites are using a new version of flash, which=20 > doesn't go down well with the existing browsers. Are you using the linux-flashplugin? You could try graphics/gnash as a flash plugin. If it crashes it doesn't take your browser with it. And it is open source. It doesn't work with all flash sites, but e.g. youtube works. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpHetUACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVz9QCfZAP8NHdJUO3sLdY8x9nJL1hG WXYAnRbXmbSsoFUkEG+iW4w/+KTigFiU =qLZI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 14:17:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C653B1065723 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from mtah11.telenor.se (mtah11.telenor.se [62.127.194.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7778FC19 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from iph2.telenor.se (iph2.telenor.se [195.54.127.133]) by mtah11.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E9560F78 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:17:20 +0200 (CEST) X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Apd9ADsYR0pV4jsLPGdsb2JhbACBUZcjAQEBATeyLIQNBYE3 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,303,1243807200"; d="scan'208";a="23602385" Received: from c-0b3be255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.59.11]) by iph2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 28 Jun 2009 16:17:19 +0200 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5SEHHtf088342 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:17:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <4A477B6D.8080608@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:17:17 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090430) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mysql error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:17:22 -0000 thanos trompoukis wrote: > Hi all, I am new with FreeBSD and I have a problem with mysql. > > I have 6.2Release i386 > I am running mysql 5.0.27 and It worked perfectly until the time that I > formated /tmp (for some other reason) > and now when I am trying to connect on mysql *I get this:* > > *[root@leonidas:/]$ mysql > ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket > '/tmp/mysql.sock2' (38)* > > *and when I edit /var/db/mysql/leonidas.MSHOME.err I see this:* > > *090628 14:49:19 mysqld started > 090628 14:49:19 [Warning] Ignoring user change to 'ser=mysql' because the > user was set to 'mysql' e > > 090628 14:49:20 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 43655 > 090628 14:49:20 [ERROR] Can't start server : Bind on unix socket: Permission > denied > 090628 14:49:20 [ERROR] Do you already have another mysqld server running on > socket: /tmp/mysql.soc > 090628 14:49:20 [ERROR] Aborting > > 090628 14:49:20 InnoDB: Starting shutdown... > 090628 14:49:22 InnoDB: Shutdown completed; log sequence number 0 43655 > 090628 14:49:22 [Note] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Shutdown complete > > 090628 14:49:22 mysqld ended > > *I have checked /tmp and there is no mysql.sock file. (because I formated > /tmp immagine) > I wouldn't like to loose my database, and I have no idea.... > What I have to do? > > Thanx! :D Don't forget to chmod 1777 /tmp /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 14:19:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0BF10656C3 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:19:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034EE8FC18 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atomic.dyndns.org (athedsl-4487283.home.otenet.gr [94.71.68.123]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n5SEJE5Y027319; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:19:14 +0300 Message-ID: <4A477BE2.1040404@otenet.gr> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:19:14 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thanos trompoukis References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:19:18 -0000 thanos trompoukis wrote: > Hi all, I am new with FreeBSD and I have a problem with mysql. > > I have 6.2Release i386 > I am running mysql 5.0.27 and It worked perfectly until the time that I > formated /tmp (for some other reason) > and now when I am trying to connect on mysql *I get this:* > > *[root@leonidas:/]$ mysql > ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket > '/tmp/mysql.sock2' (38)* > > Ha, I know this, it happened to me once I messed with tmp, and its pretty simple: /tmp has the sticky bit "set". If you forget it, some programs fail mysteriously. So just do a chown -R root:wheel /tmp (just to be safe) and chmod -R 1777 /tmp and all will be fine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 14:25:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F638106566C for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:25:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE0C8FC12 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5SEPbV8009975; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:25:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n5SEPbV8009975 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1246199138; bh=8teYZ3iGKMyr2nCiQHR9eJEwLyY5yDBStxUQzdTuXnU=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A477D56.7090408@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2028=20Jun=202009=2015:25:26=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.22=20(X11/20090625)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20thanos=20trompoukis=20|CC:=20f reebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20mysql=20error|Refere nces:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipar t/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"applicati on/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigF3B5CF005 8DC303B36725476"; b=zBih89K4ZOXuQsrgHhPUVvQLJ3imnXbtZcGRHdn0rMT4xT2rO7rr4qjdZThUVpvvW kidn+uLdJUVWBRe2pcY3xftQdfOrKCt2yQVdRutlWr/HB+4tau2X3fPrLS8WlYC6vI HoQNeyzhDM/RB4tBNB5x9P24Uh7HCE4CuHk15K0I= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A477D56.7090408@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:25:26 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090625) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thanos trompoukis References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF3B5CF0058DC303B36725476" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:25:45 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF3B5CF0058DC303B36725476 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanos trompoukis wrote: > Hi all, I am new with FreeBSD and I have a problem with mysql. >=20 > I have 6.2Release i386 > I am running mysql 5.0.27 and It worked perfectly until the time that I= > formated /tmp (for some other reason) > and now when I am trying to connect on mysql *I get this:* >=20 > *[root@leonidas:/]$ mysql > ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket > '/tmp/mysql.sock2' (38)* >=20 > *and when I edit /var/db/mysql/leonidas.MSHOME.err I see this:* >=20 > *090628 14:49:19 mysqld started > 090628 14:49:19 [Warning] Ignoring user change to 'ser=3Dmysql' because= the > user was set to 'mysql' e >=20 > 090628 14:49:20 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 43655 > 090628 14:49:20 [ERROR] Can't start server : Bind on unix socket: Permi= ssion > denied > 090628 14:49:20 [ERROR] Do you already have another mysqld server runni= ng on > socket: /tmp/mysql.soc > 090628 14:49:20 [ERROR] Aborting >=20 > 090628 14:49:20 InnoDB: Starting shutdown... > 090628 14:49:22 InnoDB: Shutdown completed; log sequence number 0 4365= 5 > 090628 14:49:22 [Note] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Shutdown complete >=20 > 090628 14:49:22 mysqld ended >=20 > *I have checked /tmp and there is no mysql.sock file. (because I format= ed > /tmp immagine) > I wouldn't like to loose my database, and I have no idea.... > What I have to do? >=20 > Thanx! :D You've apparently got a copy of mysql still running, despite trashing eve= rything in /tmp. You can confirm that by: % sockstat | grep mysql Now, if sockstat shows that mysql is listening on a network interface, then you may just be able to log into it over a network connection and shut it down cleanly. If not, then you have no alternative by to signal the process to death and then let it repair the datafiles as it restarts.= * If you have to kill mysql by signalling it: At first, try: # kill -15 `ps -ax | grep mysqld | cut -d ' ' -f 2` If it doesn't work immediately, leave mysql for 5 minutes, and see if= it has shut down yet. Try again if not, possibly several times. Failin= g that, use: # kill -9 `ps -ax | grep mysqld | cut -d ' ' -f 2` But this last really should be avoided, as it causes the process to c= rash without any opportunity to close itself down nicely. * If mysql is listening on a network interface -- preferably any of=20 127.0.0.1:3306, [::1]:3306 or *:3306=20 Try using mysqladmin to shut it down cleanly. Note that mysql does special shortcut things when hostname is localhost and tries to use t= he socket in /tmp/mysql.sock -- which doesn't help you at all. You can = force it to make a *network* connection to localhost by: # mysqladmin -h localhost -P 3306 --protocol=3DTCP -u root -p shutdow= n This will prompt you for the mysql root password. If mysqladmin doesn= 't work, then try using kill as above. Your data *should* survive MySQL being forcibly restarted in either of th= ese ways. MySQL takes very great pains to ensure data is written to pers= istent media (ie. disk) in order to provide proper ACID compliance. However, if mysql does= get killed, it will need to do some repair work on data structures when = it next starts up, and that can take a while. Because writing out its PID file is one of the la= st things mysql does in the startup sequence '/usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server stat= us' will report 'not running' during this repair work, so be a bit patient if you = see that. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF3B5CF0058DC303B36725476 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkpHfWEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzw4ACfY0oJ4nhOmYb6yDP/LZtPy1qQ JDkAoJWT0zxJWXJ0AZqykADLkbK861MT =Fj56 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF3B5CF0058DC303B36725476-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 14:45:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7441065670 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A66E8FC19 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:45:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n5SEikD4071669; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:44:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n5SEikLZ071668; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:44:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:44:45 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: Anton Message-ID: <20090628144445.GA69442@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Anton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <499941928.20090628141400@sng.by> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <499941928.20090628141400@sng.by> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:45:45 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW: Need some help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:45:47 -0000 On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 02:14:00PM +0300, Anton typed: > > Hello all, > > I'm new to *nix and now, while configuring IPFW Firewall on FreeBSD > 7.2 = has stuck in a problem: > > After packet from my network is passed to natd demon - it is returning > t= o firewall (it is normal, as I think ;-) ), but I see another > abnormal thin= g: when it is returned to firewall, it does not come > under rule which state= s to allow packet from some host in my > network, and goes under rule which a= llows packets from FreeBSD box. This is normal. That's because the source address has allready been rewritten by natd, so your rule about a specific host in your network doesn't apply anymore. Try moving this rule before the divert rule in your ipfw config. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 15:57:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5284D1065673 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nuintari@amplex.net) Received: from paulie.amplex.net (paulie.amplex.net [64.246.100.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1162D8FC1B for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nuintari@amplex.net) Received: from localhost (tony.nfs1.amplex.net [172.16.50.254]) by paulie.amplex.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n5SFjojB078916 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:45:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nuintari@amplex.net) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amplex.net Received: from paulie.amplex.net ([172.16.50.253]) by localhost (tony.amplex.net [172.16.50.254]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 4cYOBEnqQmiT for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:45:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nympho.assylum.nuintari.net (nympho.assylum.nuintari.net [64.246.119.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by paulie.amplex.net (8.13.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n5SFjVoY077543 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:45:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nuintari@amplex.net) Message-ID: <4A47C859.9010500@amplex.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:45:29 -0400 From: Mark E Doner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090616) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A430505.2020909@gmail.com> <200906260955.50697.erich@apsara.com.sg> <20090626040230.18f606b1.freebsd@edvax.de> <200906261033.58894.erich@apsara.com.sg> In-Reply-To: <200906261033.58894.erich@apsara.com.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /binHi, X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:57:52 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > On 26 June 2009 am 10:02:30 Polytropon wrote: > >> Polytropon >> From Magdeburg, Germany >> > > big brother is watching me. > > An xterm just came up with this message: > > "The default editor in FreeBSD is vi, which is efficient to use > when you have learned it, but somewhat user-unfriendly. To use > ee (an easier but less powerful editor) instead, set the > environment variable EDITOR to /usr/bin/ee" > > Isn't this the best reasoning why it should stay as it is? > Wouldn't it be cool if there was an option you could toss in make.conf, like VI_PREFIX=foo, which defaults to /usr of course? Then people who want to move vi to /bin could rebuild world without worrying about it redoing such a move after every big upgrade, and people who don't want it moved, do nothing. Not that I encourage feature creep or anything. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 17:09:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4228106566C for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BA58FC14 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so3015069yxe.3 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:09:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=H4qi6k/ZaqqcV9nvHukJSboJbNoErZN8le9nBc5Msoc=; b=EYSNRCT2Amo1ksGjOjZempPJzzMZoTGtJ4ct9BNDmfYWVe7VXgBoJWUoEGMtnVN560 1F7rx9/4XJTAxsm5vJawIrFwzQp1E2YZDRhK6gh5oif1UQnAGtGW9DuUmlZO8tseSHv2 LunRCexcYx2dPaPtZCev2qo+v3tGhGrKkGOR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=fPP/yTDY6ST5qler9XkwZxO3/er2HTcGzV2uc0UISoL3DfgiNQxproY9oDcy8dQ3cY cuKyJwWlXZ6jWf9w9YMiJZ5RpW38OWEiNgp2SaUEKbKKluOLr0CSCggcfxB2+TTFk4+p pwGGkL+3jxUgz3UUaQvLWkbJeHeay4ZJhedO8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.12.12 with SMTP id 12mr292418ybl.210.1246208960035; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:09:20 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0906281009n24381ad3j59125e237739ca2c@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: libtool shared X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:09:22 -0000 I'm trying to compile something and I'm getting these lines while I'm doing ./configure checking if libtool supports shared libraries... no checking whether to build shared libraries... no I went and even recompiled libtool # ./configure | grep -i share checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether the f77 linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether the f77 linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes # yet still same thing with my other program, it wont compile shared libraries... -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 17:15:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3148A106566C for ; 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Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:15:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A477D56.7090408@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4A477D56.7090408@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:15:27 +0300 Message-ID: From: thanos trompoukis To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:15:29 -0000 2009/6/28 Matthew Seaman > thanos trompoukis wrote: > >> Hi all, I am new with FreeBSD and I have a problem with mysql. >> >> I have 6.2Release i386 >> I am running mysql 5.0.27 and It worked perfectly until the time that I >> formated /tmp (for some other reason) >> and now when I am trying to connect on mysql *I get this:* >> >> *[root@leonidas:/]$ mysql >> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket >> '/tmp/mysql.sock2' (38)* >> >> *and when I edit /var/db/mysql/leonidas.MSHOME.err I see this:* >> >> *090628 14:49:19 mysqld started >> 090628 14:49:19 [Warning] Ignoring user change to 'ser=mysql' because the >> user was set to 'mysql' e >> >> 090628 14:49:20 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 43655 >> 090628 14:49:20 [ERROR] Can't start server : Bind on unix socket: >> Permission >> denied >> 090628 14:49:20 [ERROR] Do you already have another mysqld server running >> on >> socket: /tmp/mysql.soc >> 090628 14:49:20 [ERROR] Aborting >> >> 090628 14:49:20 InnoDB: Starting shutdown... >> 090628 14:49:22 InnoDB: Shutdown completed; log sequence number 0 43655 >> 090628 14:49:22 [Note] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Shutdown complete >> >> 090628 14:49:22 mysqld ended >> >> *I have checked /tmp and there is no mysql.sock file. (because I formated >> /tmp immagine) >> I wouldn't like to loose my database, and I have no idea.... >> What I have to do? >> >> Thanx! :D >> > > You've apparently got a copy of mysql still running, despite trashing > everything > in /tmp. You can confirm that by: > > % sockstat | grep mysql > > Now, if sockstat shows that mysql is listening on a network interface, > then you may just be able to log into it over a network connection and > shut it down cleanly. If not, then you have no alternative by to signal > the process to death and then let it repair the datafiles as it restarts. > > * If you have to kill mysql by signalling it: > > At first, try: > > # kill -15 `ps -ax | grep mysqld | cut -d ' ' -f 2` > > If it doesn't work immediately, leave mysql for 5 minutes, and see if it > has shut down yet. Try again if not, possibly several times. Failing > that, > use: > > # kill -9 `ps -ax | grep mysqld | cut -d ' ' -f 2` > > But this last really should be avoided, as it causes the process to crash > without any opportunity to close itself down nicely. > > * If mysql is listening on a network interface -- preferably any of > 127.0.0.1:3306, [::1]:3306 or *:3306 > Try using mysqladmin to shut it down cleanly. Note that mysql does > special shortcut things when hostname is localhost and tries to use the > socket in /tmp/mysql.sock -- which doesn't help you at all. You can > force > it to make a *network* connection to localhost by: > > # mysqladmin -h localhost -P 3306 --protocol=TCP -u root -p shutdown > > This will prompt you for the mysql root password. If mysqladmin doesn't > work, > then try using kill as above. > > Your data *should* survive MySQL being forcibly restarted in either of > these ways. MySQL takes very great pains to ensure data is written to > persistent media (ie. > disk) in order to provide proper ACID compliance. However, if mysql does > get killed, it will need to do some repair work on data structures when it > next starts up, and > that can take a while. Because writing out its PID file is one of the last > things > mysql does in the startup sequence '/usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server > status' will > report 'not running' during this repair work, so be a bit patient if you > see that. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW Thanx! thank you very much guys..! Finaly it was so simple!!! aaahhhh, god bless you!!!!!! Thanx again..!!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 17:18:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B741065670 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B16B8FC0C for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so3012569ewy.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:18:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JRpLym9Fmd/H0unfuwAGD72Luq89EjEZ3tjiaC9JLk4=; b=K0bsEQXqObLt6XajbmL6KWnclaH8f2E3FGShvLJEgOkWM3/+/8ts1gWtOsLc7JyzeS uk6ub4CWm2420YPkghKq95TRUD7g/nwFoJzIT9lNgZIdLRxOOwHdQsteTRRrpLygqz+7 g7aSiIhio4nMyFgzdl9S3XtCfeioeZVZHsuC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YFlIkpmctf4v74+uGRY0g8uUOpgwrx9nFw/Ws9tzTUALYjx0QJ+1icWi8xigwkdflb q7UyF6H+Wvz22cad+wcctLvU6l3r8wju0yglCnSAYavyEMHKM4sirLcARc5GaHKqNZuJ dTmIWrijb4I1SYMtxmKaSMVx0SvNUHbJt6dgg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.8.65 with SMTP id 43mr1723802weq.168.1246209489077; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:18:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090628070348.8a07299b.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <4A4639B0.8080602@webrz.net> <4A467089.1040404@radel.com> <20090628070348.8a07299b.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:17:49 +0100 Message-ID: To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Jos Chrispijn , Jon Radel , Daniel Underwood , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best practices for securing SSH server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:18:10 -0000 2009/6/28 Polytropon : > On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:17:11 -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: >> Exactly. =A0For example, the "server" in question is a desktop machine >> at work. =A0I regularly see transfer rates of 13MB/s. =A0It's at a major >> university, which is by itself another high-risk factor, precisely >> because there are so many (often weakly protected) high-speed >> connections. > > That's a valid point, and I'd like to add that there is some > consideration: Servers are usually protected with proper means. > This goes especially for UNIX servers. Desktops, on the other > hand, can more easily be taken over (especially non-UNIX machines), > so if an attacker got his foot inside a network, it's very > useful to him. There are even trading platforms where criminals > buy and sell whole networks of compromised PCs. Of course, > everything happening inside such networks should be seen as > what it is: a threat to security. Just imagine some "clever > guy" uses telnet inside such a network to configure the > server... > > You mean like the default alternative to SSH for "Windows" boxes? Gotta love their arrogance.... Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 17:22:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3FC1065673 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:22:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1918FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:22:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so3014088ewy.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:22:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=svRMjY5idDWmfjdlnjItIznSo0pi8Qtj3RzbW4kD6Gc=; b=vY09A3+iTnoFTQqLMomq0qay0ZYCTX/L2nW12pMVOiwUp518FH274mlaUMuZHpd4il km9tIr9o3Ulveq2AsetlOIqQWlwqhI1CDEBRV8iysKL/7T8bpuW5Owj+IKqxJCLqj9zc iVLxRG+MODFf3KU0gAOgVWIPKPbhPJVTu/0HI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oMF/bcUZUR76Qf7W7LrcyvH3SeUsCC4g96NMkA3MI/KOlW/g81uzI2IFj32k7O5wdb ogHW81BGo/VLd9Z3reuIyd6PP5MtF/bupK5ry1MOW6AiAYCGf+I3usH1HvBfth8/eKHT zy/3pH2NsEEjebTOhKmrpokP/tnovH0lxiybY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.55.208 with SMTP id k58mr1823047wec.9.1246209721108; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:22:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A47C859.9010500@amplex.net> References: <4A430505.2020909@gmail.com> <200906260955.50697.erich@apsara.com.sg> <20090626040230.18f606b1.freebsd@edvax.de> <200906261033.58894.erich@apsara.com.sg> <4A47C859.9010500@amplex.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:21:41 +0100 Message-ID: To: Mark E Doner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /binHi, X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:22:02 -0000 2009/6/28 Mark E Doner : > Erich Dollansky wrote: >> >> On 26 June 2009 am 10:02:30 Polytropon wrote: >> >>> >>> Polytropon >>> From Magdeburg, Germany >>> >> >> big brother is watching me. >> >> An xterm just came up with this message: >> >> "The default editor in FreeBSD is vi, which is efficient to use when you >> have learned it, but somewhat user-unfriendly. =A0To use ee (an easier b= ut >> less powerful editor) instead, set the environment variable EDITOR to >> /usr/bin/ee" >> >> Isn't this the best reasoning why it should stay as it is? >> > > Wouldn't it be cool if there was an option you could toss in make.conf, l= ike > VI_PREFIX=3Dfoo, which defaults to /usr of course? Then people who want t= o > move vi to /bin could rebuild world without worrying about it redoing suc= h a > move after every big upgrade, and people who don't want it moved, do > nothing. > > Not that I encourage feature creep or anything. Or: /usr/home/chris amnesiac# ln -s /rescue/vi /bin/vi ### Stop anything meddling with vi! /usr/home/chris amnesiac# chflags -h schg /bin/vi Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 17:35:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD731065670 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:35:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60138FC1E for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FB77E837 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:35:48 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:35:38 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <200906282054.33434.no-spam@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <200906282054.33434.no-spam@people.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906280935.38312.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: named startup problems upgrading from 7.1p4 to 7.1p5 or 7.1p6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:35:49 -0000 On Sunday 28 June 2009 03:24:26 Ian wrote: > I tried adding various echo statements to /etc/rc.d/named and found that > the script seems to run right through. rc_debug="YES" in /etc/rc.conf is REALLY handy for this. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 17:41:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922F91065709 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADB78FC0A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MKyNn-0000VS-CH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:41:39 +0000 Received: from pool-70-21-16-138.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.16.138]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:41:39 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-16-138.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:41:39 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:43:21 -0400 Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <6ae50c2d0906281009n24381ad3j59125e237739ca2c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-16-138.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: libtool shared X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:41:41 -0000 alexus wrote: > I'm trying to compile something and I'm getting these lines while I'm > doing ./configure > > checking if libtool supports shared libraries... no > checking whether to build shared libraries... no > > I went and even recompiled libtool > > # ./configure | grep -i share > checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... > yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes > checking whether to build shared libraries... yes > checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... > yes checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared > libraries... yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes > checking whether to build shared libraries... yes > checking whether the f77 linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... > yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes > checking whether to build shared libraries... yes > checking whether the f77 linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... > yes > # > > yet still same thing with my other program, it wont compile shared > libraries... > Try using the ports system to install software. May work better. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 18:26:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F92B1065673 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from siyan.hadzhiev@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B7E8FC13 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:26:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from siyan.hadzhiev@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so3039977ewy.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:26:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TJ31sLmH/qP1jOHbudTGqi/KQarKd8nNTslKu2mBG+Q=; b=ADq4a+F3ZsoQrSiXueeSOQJJBze6C7W+9yXboj6HOH5vbeqS5oqoFU6CgRJ2oKiJwT jPf43EqLFTvnq8R9tPmgpzKSOnQy7R2J5BgB1gDbKQ9xT8bj1G8dPsq3A5zJj55jcBBf yfjw46iwGmNivfhbH2a8jBauUnREnAiMJ7eBk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=bg2AQTZxPPVXM4X4vcqGwvX0WiNmDwfNPnPVLJXwzV754T7NMVRbYvGiWrDfkwms/g 5znyGv302He5w9z7gWFVgZD4v1R7nGtTFIVLI0Miop0doUscNB4HYJ4fIs5UkvEMwiaq 2FHBL3Ysymh0bO+MrXtvSUSNwNvlJeBQ2RBE4= Received: by 10.210.37.16 with SMTP id k16mr7095116ebk.5.1246213571896; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.13.31? ([78.189.102.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm4261302eyf.2.2009.06.28.11.26.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:26:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Siyan Sabinov Hadzhiev To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:25:51 +0300 Message-Id: <1246213557.1855.1.camel@bsdt43.turbo.net.tr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 7.2 - iwi error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:26:13 -0000 Hello List , I am new in this list , so if these is an old topic forgive me.I have successfully installed FreeBSD 7.2 to IBM T43 Laptop.I am using wireless network with WPA key.My Laptop has Intel Pro Wireless 2200.I installed iwi driver and firmware successfully. I am successfully connecting to my home and ofis wireless networks with wpa supplicant.However every 4 or 5 minutes my connection gets down and i got "iwi0: firmware stuck in state 4 , resetting " and then "iwi0 device timeout " errors.These drops my connection , after that it take 30 seconds to my connection come back up.Then after 5 minutes again same errors and these goes on. I search a little bit on Google however find nothing usefull. Is there anybody who faced with same problem? And is there any solutions or upgrades for that issue. Best Regards Siyan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 20:01:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A91C1065670 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:01:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-out1.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-OUT1.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F8B8FC08 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,305,1243807200"; d="scan'208";a="275692631" Received: from zivmaildisp2.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER03.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.143]) by zivm-relay1.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 28 Jun 2009 22:01:02 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER03.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id AC2EC1B075E; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:01:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:01:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: www/firefox-devel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:01:04 -0000 is anybody out there still using this port? shouldn't it be retired? it's even older than the regular www/firefox port. people who want to run the latest unstable firefox version should use www/firefox3-devel. cheers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 20:31:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30531065688 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f186.google.com (mail-qy0-f186.google.com [209.85.221.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF1A8FC0A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: by qyk16 with SMTP id 16so4015177qyk.3 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:31:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/DA7MknTy60WarpaRM9AXmPZb2n+pHS9WUhVX9FSXwU=; b=Ryh/cI7uwSHXxMzlwby8Mf5INrg4uWRAffGSolpoj8hZEod976xg0363OX8OrAi2Cj uJxKsCRtTxTEW5MF9D8NgDK8ZDt0XJ6qXXNeZGB6hQIVMHuuxNz4K4jhbqyhslMP5h4h OeXEGV/Sb1WK2oHyoAEo9iu2dmkElLx5lDjcM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=mzSc9IMjWC7TJoaegHJ/AgyQT84sG5RVNhhhe6CyYhwn1FDmnlTA0dURxv40MPr8zQ OYObSwUcOAF+3ZUhc5uXqyfT5T0ZP3hF23pJ08fnQdo1Vo1dMiKDXs9glHjE6lujXQyg KhjzF4TqvWOVCEng6AdrqOd02f2CxpKmY02/I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.96.132 with SMTP id h4mr1486087qcn.65.1246221101174; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:31:41 -0700 Message-ID: <26face530906281331q50afe3dela4886e2120104b74@mail.gmail.com> From: Kelly Jones To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Using ctorrent or other program to seed a torrent X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:31:42 -0000 I know how to use ctorrent to create a torrent file, but how do I actually seed the resulting file so that others can get it, and how do I 'register' myself w/ a tracker so that others will know what IP address to connect to, etc? Can ctorrent seed torrents, or do I need another program for that? -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 20:33:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C111065678 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjuanino@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C158FC29 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:33:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jjuanino@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so3091553ewy.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:33:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:x-operating-system:user-agent; bh=5ctSK+hiN4905YUU3JhpyPDzuiukNjSldKA7J6ySI3w=; b=aA1OdiZSAojqN3zRD1zrZEnk9JgtcGuy1rM84XHB+fHvf7oyE0mcDeWP+JbkL9p7fN edGd5tAj/zGFdvLmPNV8OuZwzRl/oIHwS3Wl9tnOAT716CPpIearagTzfpsrpiqBARN4 TJ2vAeSEp0t+m2WvG0haMlpFcD+U3TcoDhIEw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-operating-system :user-agent; b=tekXMcD7r6W38rPx7LVe3hCRC8REy0etN2NoQVmtMvVGV0acuX9SnyRjhpS685IdwJ KibNExl28jb8w1rcMXns3h6SBtq5NPKJdE9IGyd7yJkRUBv829g0ErDes7B29XPRfzJy ABEo2U9VUx1TASEynYkXMAOwZxiUyDUfOtTa8= Received: by 10.211.195.15 with SMTP id x15mr777574ebp.59.1246221196274; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from banach (192.pool85-60-95.dynamic.orange.es [85.60.95.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm4343306eyg.57.2009.06.28.13.33.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:33:10 +0200 From: Jose Garcia Juanino To: Siyan Sabinov Hadzhiev Message-ID: <20090628203309.GA1842@banach> References: <1246213557.1855.1.camel@bsdt43.turbo.net.tr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1246213557.1855.1.camel@bsdt43.turbo.net.tr> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.2 - iwi error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:33:18 -0000 --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El domingo 28 de junio a las 20:25:51 CEST, Siyan Sabinov Hadzhiev escribi= =F3: >=20 > Hello List , >=20 > I am new in this list , so if these is an old topic forgive me.I have=20 > successfully installed FreeBSD 7.2 to IBM T43 Laptop.I am using wireless > network with WPA key.My Laptop has Intel Pro Wireless 2200.I installed > iwi driver and firmware successfully. >=20 > I am successfully connecting to my home and ofis wireless networks with > wpa supplicant.However every 4 or 5 minutes my connection gets down and > i got "iwi0: firmware stuck in state 4 , resetting " and then "iwi0 > device timeout " errors.These drops my connection , after that it take > 30 seconds to my connection come back up.Then after 5 minutes again same > errors and these goes on. >=20 > I search a little bit on Google however find nothing usefull. >=20 > Is there anybody who faced with same problem? > And is there any solutions or upgrades for that issue. I have such wireless interface on a Dell Latitude D505, and I have experienced that annoying problem many times. Enable debug.iwi sysctl and tell us what messages you see in /var/log/messages log file. In my own laptop, I saw these messages before the disconnection: XXXXX kernel: Beacon miss: XX >=3D YY After that I increased bmissthreshold parameter of ifconfig in rc.conf, and the problem went away. Hope this helps, and sorry for my poor english. Best regards --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpH04UACgkQFOo0zaS9RnIi0ACgnrx12Q/ocgAbu6APE6eLKlp9 9TkAoJP2YAmRL2tNE2KZ+wLXO57RKpBc =vCgx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 20:40:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912EB106564A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEBA8FC1D for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so3151572yxe.3 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:40:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=USBB+mARxY205SADlLh58fPnm0IUwclungyXyrTjjiM=; b=kokLwkE+X9Wmlyor2//I89qEeL3oDhokeiLjDc6F3dDajxuP033zD6KqMnkZS0n3YB oKDBdUZeOjioiG4VzaLH12GGZJQXJpAcuKTTlx5hr1pfYLCMurRNPgpnZffvtvO+J2Pz r6B9QPlA9uXLbMDXTJ1e8+g6eCHgkawT4ABeQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mmaZtJP0w3IGg6ERRQ7Ke5Vxzisrw4Ic0IT5XNex5bm+Fzqp2QjMmFNb7mru0PqqT8 hsnZGGg6SnwWWvPone3tj5GOvJ6f4WnTMln5c7tTRNHW3FKB0hwQzsj9i7AN332lYLaj V/Lqn6QmtbuV4Yia5l81kfBT3P3OpuDCwCycE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.72.3 with SMTP id z3mr3168877ybk.9.1246221624484; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:40:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6ae50c2d0906281009n24381ad3j59125e237739ca2c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:40:24 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0906281340p68b5f8ewa41095e694cf5ff8@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: nightrecon@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libtool shared X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:40:26 -0000 On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Michael Powell wrote: > alexus wrote: > >> I'm trying to compile something and I'm getting these lines while I'm >> doing ./configure >> >> checking if libtool supports shared libraries... no >> checking whether to build shared libraries... no >> >> I went and even recompiled libtool >> >> # ./configure | grep -i share >> checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... >> yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes >> checking whether to build shared libraries... yes >> checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... >> yes checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared >> libraries... yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes >> checking whether to build shared libraries... yes >> checking whether the f77 linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... >> yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes >> checking whether to build shared libraries... yes >> checking whether the f77 linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... >> yes >> # >> >> yet still same thing with my other program, it wont compile shared >> libraries... >> > > Try using the ports system to install software. May work better. > > -Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > company policy not too use ports, any other suggestions? -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 22:14:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3214B106566C for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:14:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE98FC16 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403267E818 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:14:17 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:14:15 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <6ae50c2d0906281009n24381ad3j59125e237739ca2c@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0906281340p68b5f8ewa41095e694cf5ff8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0906281340p68b5f8ewa41095e694cf5ff8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906281414.16019.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: libtool shared X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:14:18 -0000 On Sunday 28 June 2009 12:40:24 alexus wrote: > company policy not too use ports, any other suggestions? Understand GNU autotools in detail, the patches for it in the respective ports, how to read config.log and whether all this is worth compliance to company policy. Note: the above requires at least two weeks of non-productive self-education on the boss' clock, judging from the fact you post configure output, rather then config.log snippets (without being judgmental or condescending: it shows you are just starting with the GNU autotools experience). Recently Giorgos posted a nice summary of what you'd need to learn [1]. Of course, I'm presuming installing/maintaining software is something that belongs to your daily tasks. If you only need to fix this specific problem, we would need output from config.log around the lines where it says it can't build shared libs. [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?db=mid&id=87hbyk6h02.fsf@kobe.laptop -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 22:18:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601D8106566C for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC048FC1B for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:18:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so3213002yxe.3 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:18:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UwLlTVNuZ4JuB45sszCV+FjMRDYlk+H3h0T6eznbUcE=; b=ta35Mnql74Q7LMhrt6+ZkeiuEsYnn2XeKcFOpcDcxsU+0lFipyDkKjyw2TWgBxMehu 9pBYzJuMiVS53x+oLDGTAyyjQpZc39xk0dHkUZLl1XeSIhiLV1RFzUzO27Uv3NLVuP0G CkUq7LoPxVEwaA5pJwXekvU43FGFVBXHbBWdM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pIwnZi4H8bi6ajSgDOwxr2twduay1WlD/4+YL1oguYe13K1y5EhMoBFfda0V/4iwDc +dOzHzCkBWnyogAyV3U4+lyYczt8EJWnataj6pMjcvNCM8969hakhJL/NRy50BdfAx1T W9DL1Quvbp1sr5dmmJtWvWUjRYl4uCt6f1jYo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.204.19 with SMTP id b19mr1293079ybg.267.1246227534491; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:18:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200906281414.16019.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <6ae50c2d0906281009n24381ad3j59125e237739ca2c@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0906281340p68b5f8ewa41095e694cf5ff8@mail.gmail.com> <200906281414.16019.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:18:54 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0906281518m422783f0lf57014459bc11b5f@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: Mel Flynn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libtool shared X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:18:55 -0000 On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Sunday 28 June 2009 12:40:24 alexus wrote: > >> company policy not too use ports, any other suggestions? > > Understand GNU autotools in detail, the patches for it in the respective > ports, how to read config.log and whether all this is worth compliance to > company policy. > Note: the above requires at least two weeks of non-productive self-education > on the boss' clock, judging from the fact you post configure output, rather > then config.log snippets (without being judgmental or condescending: it shows > you are just starting with the GNU autotools experience). Recently > Giorgos posted a nice summary of what you'd need to learn [1]. > > Of course, I'm presuming installing/maintaining software is something that > belongs to your daily tasks. If you only need to fix this specific problem, > we would need output from config.log around the lines where it says it can't > build shared libs. > > [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?db=mid&id=87hbyk6h02.fsf@kobe.laptop > -- > Mel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > gc# cat config.log This file contains any messages produced by compilers while running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake. configure:538: checking for gcc configure:615: checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works configure:629: gcc -o conftest conftest.c 1>&5 configure:649: checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler configure:654: checking whether we are using GNU C configure:663: gcc -E conftest.c configure:681: checking how to run the C preprocessor configure:702: gcc -E conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out configure:742: checking for function prototypes configure:765: gcc -c -O2 conftest.c 1>&5 configure:792: checking for stddef.h configure:802: gcc -E conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out configure:828: checking for stdlib.h configure:838: gcc -E conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out configure:864: checking for string.h configure:874: gcc -E conftest.c >/dev/null 2>conftest.out configure:900: checking for size_t configure:923: gcc -c -O2 conftest.c 1>&5 configure:994: checking for type unsigned char configure:1003: gcc -c -O2 conftest.c 1>&5 configure:1018: checking for type unsigned short configure:1027: gcc -c -O2 conftest.c 1>&5 configure:1042: checking for type void configure:1072: gcc -c -O2 conftest.c 1>&5 configure:1088: checking for working const configure:1142: gcc -c -O2 conftest.c 1>&5 configure:1163: checking for inline configure:1174: gcc -c -O2 conftest.c 1>&5 configure:1224: checking for broken incomplete types configure:1233: gcc -c -O2 conftest.c 1>&5 configure:1248: checking for short external names configure:1260: gcc -o conftest -O2 conftest.c 1>&5 configure:1275: checking to see if char is signed configure:1306: gcc -o conftest -O2 conftest.c 1>&5 configure: failed program was: #line 1282 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" #ifdef HAVE_PROTOTYPES int is_char_signed (int arg) #else int is_char_signed (arg) int arg; #endif { if (arg == 189) { /* expected result for unsigned char */ return 0; /* type char is unsigned */ } else if (arg != -67) { /* expected result for signed char */ printf("Hmm, it seems 'char' is not eight bits wide on your machine.\n"); printf("I fear the JPEG software will not work at all.\n\n"); } return 1; /* assume char is signed otherwise */ } char signed_char_check = (char) (-67); main() { exit(is_char_signed((int) signed_char_check)); } configure:1323: checking to see if right shift is signed configure:1358: gcc -o conftest -O2 conftest.c 1>&5 configure: failed program was: #line 1328 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" #ifdef HAVE_PROTOTYPES int is_shifting_signed (long arg) #else int is_shifting_signed (arg) long arg; #endif /* See whether right-shift on a long is signed or not. */ { long res = arg >> 4; if (res == -0x7F7E80CL) { /* expected result for signed shift */ return 1; /* right shift is signed */ } /* see if unsigned-shift hack will fix it. */ /* we can't just test exact value since it depends on width of long... */ res |= (~0L) << (32-4); if (res == -0x7F7E80CL) { /* expected result now? */ return 0; /* right shift is unsigned */ } printf("Right shift isn't acting as I expect it to.\n"); printf("I fear the JPEG software will not work at all.\n\n"); return 0; /* try it with unsigned anyway */ } main() { exit(is_shifting_signed(-0x7F7E80B1L)); } configure:1375: checking to see if fopen accepts b spec configure:1390: gcc -o conftest -O2 conftest.c 1>&5 configure:1436: checking for a BSD compatible install configure:1488: checking for ranlib configure:1650: checking libjpeg version number C ltconfig:432: gcc -E conftest.c ltconfig:547: checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works ltconfig:548: gcc -c -fPIC -DPIC conftest.c 1>&5 ltconfig:591: checking if gcc static flag -static works ltconfig:592: gcc -o conftest -static conftest.c 1>&5 ltconfig:624: checking for ld used by GCC GNU ld version 2.15 [FreeBSD] 2004-05-23 ltconfig:971: checking if global_symbol_pipe works ltconfig:972: gcc -c conftest.c 1>&5 ltconfig:975: eval "/usr/bin/nm -B conftest.o | sed -n -e 's/^.* [ABCDGISTUW] \([_A-Za-z][_A-Za-z0-9]*\)$/\1 \1/p' > conftest.nm" ltconfig:1033: gcc -o conftest -fno-builtin conftest.c conftestm.o 1>&5 gc# -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 22:47:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338F8106566C for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:47:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6098FC15 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so3145392ewy.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:47:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mB5DT6wZHjNdBPqt6JqmmhVhxfCfGvM1veJ5fljNNb8=; b=u+gelzIUgE98Q+rmgF4eyz4gAfsS/PwxRt4KUtEr2LDwQxx+4+0/mnE+OjxQ1jFTV9 flKJyYUxtWh05CAUldx2QY0dcSKPjkFyUCBKXOcAXSIz7+vPjmtzMpof0cZ2NQIG2HlI f+ZTaUiD9lkfOAq5PWbT3IUmnL7oTMO9c7MXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=bVpV9/MdCqDc8VSYuihxabQfCLgNk4ocmLM98ZUtv+LmhzRlrcb8QvaZnqjC9wc9wP 1PZhsrx/rScqYyv0S4mCTQMiP8ptbn90+t2ju4uvWaG/YdUjpF+iscnBCT17ntgEiGEw eAhM33BIbYrpHOOj+hqKyJYsn3zdjAA4QOKwQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.29.213 with SMTP id i63mr1887780wea.90.1246229273782; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:47:53 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Chomium on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:47:55 -0000 Is there an effort to build a port of chromium for FreeBSD? I recently began using chromium on my Linux machine, and the HTML rendering speed is quite impressive. When it has the ability to synchronize bookmarks, I'll use it exclusively. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 23:09:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F61106564A for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5558FC12 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ML3Uj-0005P6-Bs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:09:09 +0000 Received: from pool-71-166-141-57.washdc.east.verizon.net ([71.166.141.57]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:09:09 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-71-166-141-57.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:09:09 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:10:51 -0400 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <6ae50c2d0906281009n24381ad3j59125e237739ca2c@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0906281340p68b5f8ewa41095e694cf5ff8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-166-141-57.washdc.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: libtool shared X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:09:10 -0000 alexus wrote: > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Michael Powell > wrote: >> alexus wrote: [snip] > > company policy not too use ports, any other suggestions? Change this company policy as it is unproductive. Sounds like something implemented by those lacking experience with FreeBSD. The time port maintainers have spent developing patch sets that ensure an easy build and install is not being leveraged. The time you spend developing your own workarounds to build software with the various autotools is more waste, you are duplicating efforts already made by others. The amount of time and effort you will spend when it comes time to update is effort wasted, because now you are duplicating the efforts of others yet *again*. If the company policy is dictated by people who have no concept of how to manage efficient man-hour usage, and who will not listen when others have superior suggestions, your company has other problems besides it's lack of knowledge concerning FreeBSD. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 28 23:36:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2D6106566C for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:36:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB488FC13 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so3161662ewy.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:36:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GpVV1TYP7b/1fI0nhRjxR+HdFYRFUTzPG6RVzvdDsUQ=; b=rkRCnRY6E2NaVVS+abm9wmHMHx/NjYsSnavLjv94IuK8/xXymI5zwO9LNcy5+VcgNt 4u6NUD1Z4iolGQKIEjB8B6ao0ph6f0mqVLqPR7LidHnrW0gZNHXlaEdHB5cL6nz9Irlf ybk0ocCNhPO5ZQe0mJh+dj4n/rV9IiJwdWgWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cQtDc4vT728Lfr3I8Yb1YuHiZiI+Uo4vmHRTkN+c/UsqsaVfTZQZtXIqhHx4ZD6Pf0 vkP5BmUHvF8JUcVGWpI8RzSH6pp7VySBmaRaoRAzO0Dvupx0qLgNetPFX3lA1wvuruBc eK+89UNgKAjoU/zMkazEcJ50gEv2eG8eiI/Lc= Received: by 10.210.28.4 with SMTP id b4mr2733035ebb.90.1246232196030; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm5945656eyh.0.2009.06.28.16.36.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:36:22 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090629003622.0a0e6a5f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <26face530906281331q50afe3dela4886e2120104b74@mail.gmail.com> References: <26face530906281331q50afe3dela4886e2120104b74@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.2; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Using ctorrent or other program to seed a torrent X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:36:37 -0000 On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:31:41 -0700 Kelly Jones wrote: > I know how to use ctorrent to create a torrent file, but how do I > actually seed the resulting file so that others can get it, and how do > I 'register' myself w/ a tracker so that others will know what IP > address to connect to, etc? There are two kinds of trackers, closed and open. With a closed tracker you usually have to upload the torrent file on a website. With open trackers you don't need to do anything other than specify the URLs of the trackers when you create the torrent file. > Can ctorrent seed torrents, or do I need another program for that? I would imagine so, or you wouldn't be able to seed after downloading. With most clients you can place the file or directory in the download location, load the torrent file and then tell the client to verify the download. It'll then detect that it's complete and switch to seeding. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 00:30:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F82D10656ED for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745338FC14 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9c771c0060FhH24A2cW9ei; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:30:09 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9cW71c0071f6R9u8UcW7zF; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:30:09 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:30:06 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:30:06 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090629003005.GE15815@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6ae50c2d0906281009n24381ad3j59125e237739ca2c@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0906281340p68b5f8ewa41095e694cf5ff8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: libtool shared X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:30:09 -0000 On Sun 28 Jun 2009 at 16:10:51 PDT Michael Powell wrote: >alexus wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Michael Powell >> wrote: >>> alexus wrote: >[snip] >> >> company policy not too use ports, any other suggestions? > >Change this company policy as it is unproductive. Sounds like something >implemented by those lacking experience with FreeBSD. > >The time port maintainers have spent developing patch sets that ensure an >easy build and install is not being leveraged. The time you spend developing >your own workarounds to build software with the various autotools is more >waste, you are duplicating efforts already made by others. The amount of >time and effort you will spend when it comes time to update is effort >wasted, because now you are duplicating the efforts of others yet *again*. > >If the company policy is dictated by people who have no concept of how to >manage efficient man-hour usage, and who will not listen when others have >superior suggestions, your company has other problems besides it's lack of >knowledge concerning FreeBSD. > >-Mike If management refuses to listen to reason, you can still benefit from the efforts of the port maintainers by studying their makefiles and patches. Their stuff builds and installs correctly, or it would never have been committed into the portstree. It's probably a lot easier to understand the FreeBSD porting system than it is to understand the autotools suite. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 25 22:25:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2371065679 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE9D8FC19 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459F63CCDA; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:25:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5PMPddU002970; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:25:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:25:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Gary Gatten" Message-Id: <20090626002539.3dbb9fad.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F0DF@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F0DF@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:05:13 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, tajudd@gmail.com, invalid.pointer@gmail.com, bf1783@googlemail.com Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:25:48 -0000 On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:15:12 -0500, "Gary Gatten" wrote: > I like M$ "Notepad" - is there a version of that for FBSD? You are on the wrong list. Correct your inner state of mind and try again. :-) No, seriously: Maybe gnotepad+ appeals to you? > Actually the old "edit" from dos is sweet too.... Try the Midnight Commander's mcedit editor, it has some of the functionaliy, keyboard-usage-wise... -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 26 05:23:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070361065673 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:23:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9738D8FC15 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n5Q5NLnN050395; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:23:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:23:17 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090626052317.GB32901@thought.org> References: <4A430505.2020909@gmail.com> <200906261033.58894.erich@apsara.com.sg> <20090626045808.fb3b0c8d.freebsd@edvax.de> <200906261203.23172.erich@apsara.com.sg> <20090626061157.4e846d36.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090626061157.4e846d36.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:05:13 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, bf1783@googlemail.com, Manish Jain , Erik Osterholm , Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /binHi, X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:23:40 -0000 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 06:11:57AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:03:21 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > What kind of editor do you need for rescue? Just edit one or two > > lines in some config file to allow the full system to start > > again. > > > > Rescue does not need an editor programmers are used to edit their > > source files. > > I won't say anything different. For the usual "maintenance and > get the damn thing working again" tasks the /rescue editor, > especially vi, should be enough. Commands are i, a, and :wq. > >From my experience, I can't remember to have used anything > else. > what about j, k [down, up]. and h,l [left, right]? why reach over for the arrow keys! oh, and o, and O [open line below/Above], and \search and that's 97 and 44/100ths of what you'll ever need. gary ps: when bill j. dies and meets st. pete at the pearly gate, pete'll say: "So what did you do--" And bill will say, "I wrote vi." red-carpet is rolled out :_) > > > -- > Polytropon > >From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php The 4.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 26 06:01:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CC5106564A for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F338FC0C for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D663CB26; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:01:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5Q612eU005723; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:01:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:01:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090626080102.ccc76a10.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090626052317.GB32901@thought.org> References: <4A430505.2020909@gmail.com> <200906261033.58894.erich@apsara.com.sg> <20090626045808.fb3b0c8d.freebsd@edvax.de> <200906261203.23172.erich@apsara.com.sg> <20090626061157.4e846d36.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090626052317.GB32901@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:05:13 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, bf1783@googlemail.com, Manish Jain , Erik Osterholm , Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:01:11 -0000 On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:23:17 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > what about j, k [down, up]. and h,l [left, right]? > why reach over for the arrow keys! oh, and o, and O > [open line below/Above], and > > \search > > and that's 97 and 44/100ths of what you'll ever need. Well, I'm not good at vi. As a lazy guy (TM) I honestly prefer ee, as long as the cursor keys work. If they don't, well, I have a "vi keyboard reference" in my "extremely important documentation folder" - and yes, it is a real folder, not a directory. :-) So if everything fails, there's still vi and the content of /rescue to get you back working. Maybe this is because vi scared me when using WEGA (which is the GDR's equivalent of UNIX System III, run on the P8000 multi-user workstation). Well, we were all young, many many years in the distant past. :-) > ps: when bill j. dies and meets st. pete at the pearly > gate, pete'll say: "So what did you do--" And bill > will say, "I wrote vi." red-carpet is rolled out > :_) When Bill G. arrives at the pearly gate, ol' Pete won't ask him what he did do, instead send him to MICROS~1 C:\HELL.EXE with the advice to click on the devil to start the everlasting pain. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 26 07:41:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB29C1065675 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@apsara.com.sg) Received: from babylon.webvis.net (babylon.webvis.net [202.157.163.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411908FC08 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@apsara.com.sg) Received: from [10.0.1.240] ([119.73.191.194]) by apsara.com.sg ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:41:01 +0800 SGT From: Erich Dollansky Organization: apsara green technology pte ltd To: Polytropon Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:40:50 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4A430505.2020909@gmail.com> <20090626052317.GB32901@thought.org> <20090626080102.ccc76a10.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090626080102.ccc76a10.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906261540.53143.erich@apsara.com.sg> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:05:13 +0000 Cc: bf1783@googlemail.com, Manish Jain , Gary Kline , Erik Osterholm , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:41:37 -0000 Hi, On 26 June 2009 pm 14:01:02 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:23:17 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > have a "vi keyboard reference" in my "extremely important > documentation folder" - and yes, it is a real folder, not a > directory. :-) So if everything fails, there's still vi and > the content of /rescue to get you back working. > > Maybe this is because vi scared me when using WEGA (which is > the GDR's equivalent of UNIX System III, run on the P8000 was this the russian PDP-11? > multi-user workstation). Well, we were all young, many many > years in the distant past. :-) You want to say 'yesterday'? > > > ps: when bill j. dies and meets st. pete at the pearly > > gate, pete'll say: "So what did you do--" And bill > > will say, "I wrote vi." red-carpet is rolled out > > > > :_) > > When Bill G. arrives at the pearly gate, ol' Pete won't ask > him what he did do, instead send him to MICROS~1 C:\HELL.EXE > with the advice to click on the devil to start the everlasting > pain. :-) I do not think so. He will go directly to heaven. Why? He made all computer users pray that no data get lost when the machine freezes again. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 26 20:20:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179541065675 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:20:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A499F8FC0C for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n5QKK2ap058283; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:19:58 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090626201958.GE35345@thought.org> References: <4A430505.2020909@gmail.com> <200906261033.58894.erich@apsara.com.sg> <20090626045808.fb3b0c8d.freebsd@edvax.de> <200906261203.23172.erich@apsara.com.sg> <20090626061157.4e846d36.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090626052317.GB32901@thought.org> <20090626080102.ccc76a10.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090626080102.ccc76a10.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:05:13 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, bf1783@googlemail.com, Manish Jain , Erik Osterholm , Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:20:33 -0000 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 08:01:02AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:23:17 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > what about j, k [down, up]. and h,l [left, right]? > > why reach over for the arrow keys! oh, and o, and O > > [open line below/Above], and > > > > \search > > > > and that's 97 and 44/100ths of what you'll ever need. > > Well, I'm not good at vi. As a lazy guy (TM) I honestly prefer > ee, as long as the cursor keys work. If they don't, well, I > have a "vi keyboard reference" in my "extremely important > documentation folder" - and yes, it is a real folder, not a > directory. :-) So if everything fails, there's still vi and > the content of /rescue to get you back working. > > Maybe this is because vi scared me when using WEGA (which is > the GDR's equivalent of UNIX System III, run on the P8000 > multi-user workstation). Well, we were all young, many many > years in the distant past. :-) > Ah yes.... true words, never spoken, etc. And I had (past tensed) one of those reference cards ... come to think of it. There're still tricks of vi I don't know. Or, to be correct, nvi, which was said to be a "feature for feature, bug for bug" clone. Yes, i am a geek, just not an extremist:) > > > > ps: when bill j. dies and meets st. pete at the pearly > > gate, pete'll say: "So what did you do--" And bill > > will say, "I wrote vi." red-carpet is rolled out > > :_) > > When Bill G. arrives at the pearly gate, ol' Pete won't ask > him what he did do, instead send him to MICROS~1 C:\HELL.EXE > with the advice to click on the devil to start the everlasting > pain. :-) > > (*Yes*!) LMAO. gary > > -- > Polytropon > From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php The 4.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 01:11:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27AF10656C1 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537328FC0C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1622489fxm.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:11:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gAKuAVtO1Lpk43aOvKk/Md+wlmaGAOr7VHrjPaGkqaI=; b=feXsHK1L01T9d8LInX0BQ2CesxaAsxMvV4DSZQ1qMGXXfENHwC1GCZ/W0LLB7FXwpi QT4izNWBOmFlIVvayubdtOq4IoP7aRZz/onUo2DKEKyYn+8Pi4Nrx7LYA5JZ5xUpgUfn QZgmUi/e7EBMxrfMEYcQa/TXHyGMsPpLCyBkQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rRTQ3GiAOJQNf040/d4enC0ZCdpUYpGYmGMda869kFgslfLJWOjt4sNRE8cODOpuQk 9EpaSl1rZbfgJB2edlR4UGcJoamAVr/eaevqYjVqJrP5Tjo3KmE9Ezutc/ngZSUBcCbs ShzHXv9fFqkr1J2suQ2DNe5E1Ic43Sc8FvaD8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.52.135 with SMTP id i7mr6564395bkg.154.1246237895358; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:11:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090626052317.GB32901@thought.org> References: <4A430505.2020909@gmail.com> <200906261033.58894.erich@apsara.com.sg> <20090626045808.fb3b0c8d.freebsd@edvax.de> <200906261203.23172.erich@apsara.com.sg> <20090626061157.4e846d36.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090626052317.GB32901@thought.org> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:11:35 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310906281811s725a6751l5f6771de5f88b728@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /binHi, X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:11:37 -0000 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Gary Kline wrote: [snip] > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0what about j, k [down, up]. =A0and h,l =A0[left, right]? > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0why reach over for the arrow keys! =A0oh, and o, and O > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[open line below/Above], and > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\search > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0and that's 97 and 44/100ths of what you'll ever need. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0gary > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ps: =A0when bill j. dies and meets st. pete at the pearly > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 gate, pete'll say: "So what did you do--" =A0And = bill > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 will say, "I wrote vi." =A0red-carpet is rolled o= ut > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 :_) > You really should give credit where it is due. "I wrote vi -- in one weekend!" ;) --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 02:21:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A91106564A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74108FC13 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so559280qwd.7 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:21:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=j6Ux/QB88aiesVKdVBddMLbGIjx9qgX+RkfB4O9ly3w=; b=icSZGZyTGI1TUq83OEGV/Xzrcwhs1nJm2KncSd2QvWsUik5ecPonFT8S/bgQ90jXkQ JgcqpHOYtsj6BHBYRLLEHp/UHkHCNe5wE5zOWk/Z90fx+0NWWedPCRITKya1nHl01bMT vthLyVx37yFXR1/n/yl/BvNrGlPn5CUlD3RDE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oQW8EpSP1MI3hwURyssFxBboMg6q2vjitxZ5L8RKU17KinIcrslyCZeM+U6E0m94fC m0AtiYoDKP+jrw7p8Ibrndr63ROPofazocbGCZ8/ykmeA7Gt8ilLFn35G1NeBfcabSK3 D4OrxH6mCuXfUOshKY07lmt+n6q7aMpyFAhjc= Received: by 10.224.2.77 with SMTP id 13mr5182695qai.121.1246242090000; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm564822qwg.45.2009.06.28.19.21.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:21:32 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090626) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: what character is a physical newline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:21:31 -0000 I am writting a parser (tokenizes all characters among other things) and need to know what control char is equivelent to a newline (I do not need windows cross compatibility) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 02:25:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC9D106564A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2125F8FC23 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so559930qwd.7 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:25:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=s2xXlZZ8be+ZVBrUEiN3LFtmEeyO3MGbqzNPpOl2oVA=; b=OGEIdnbBRxv+meSQJ/gLuDShhF2Tee3SBVr5U+0v7sNRvqnIU63lKckNdbgb9Dyfd4 cRfr0MJA3GSu1KL3bscPS47WwTtIWHPxdAH37dBt4bmTz2mFNEIaWxbETUSdGzhHIqOE IiDgSgdFYV0GmauzZz+RIKC+SZ6qtfE5MsPOE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vlTXLvmeCGsEVL5ibbUmWRmbNEA0pNm0B9eSf1iOIsCwmtV0Ekk4BouTn+IX+5q+Af 8kC3rGjokxOuwb8oaG+cOZFMNMO2vevsYfIPhaEv2ujBLgWzM5MhPu1NM05dqES+3REx fzV4BM09q16tuSbEqx1ebp9qeksXu/a/MEhkk= Received: by 10.224.28.149 with SMTP id m21mr5188603qac.53.1246242340357; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm13813931qwd.52.2009.06.28.19.25.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A482626.2080202@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:25:42 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090626) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: what character is a physical newline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:25:41 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > I am writting a parser (tokenizes all characters among other things) > and need to know what control char is equivelent to a newline (I do > not need windows cross compatibility) > Forgot to mention before someone recommends lex/yacc and/or some other parser generator (I am working in Java) there are internal design reasons to my over all project why I am writting a lexer/parser from scratch From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 02:26:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EE11065676 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB13A8FC1A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:26:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1634967fxm.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:26:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EeyR2MMD9CZbRBNe28wovcOjznpY6W9jRl32KeGg22o=; b=D77jRQGu1ro52F64VG+Ky38EZoOo8vHDQqmgGYTWrqCyPxt5AU0fdJjYM28nfen6Dn 7+DZFCdpdAckvEDS/2tkxMTkhNhhLJ+8M/Pv06vvbmQLLXWjgJy/NtydsAq1m6FYrbTv i7JW8G1MZhGui0geHa5UPf6Rsjvwv704K49Zg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H/VuxAeDCTC/xfMx9XeQ7sUSFCCOA8CCAF3yosACq9qk1ZxGtrWTV5AHWtMeGhwhrM L61a6OvpM5NZp1PVoy3bFqeyRnoapwN9EMrufAqnjLbZl5Yim49hcjL2ownzNMWcbx6c xe/2MsB4kVcR5TQJ6p7erBfq0ginii+6Au34o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.52.146 with SMTP id i18mr6688090bkg.82.1246242378649; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:26:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> References: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:26:18 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310906281926i54fdac53u1d4681c8060e4d36@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what character is a physical newline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:26:21 -0000 On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > I am writting a parser (tokenizes all characters among other things) and > need to know what control char is equivelent to a newline (I do not need > windows cross compatibility) What do you mean exactly? What language(s)? If I understand your question correctly, the C / C++ / Java / PHP (and I think Perl) 'newline' character is '\n' -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 02:27:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED01D1065816 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f186.google.com (mail-qy0-f186.google.com [209.85.221.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B58A8FC17 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by qyk16 with SMTP id 16so4138370qyk.3 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vwAVahaZ0DANfz3QnFLP4oTns63OqLZJiHOQwr1KmLk=; b=bt6XFavlCYIHfNCGkqO4JxKCF28OzflAWmTMz0bY+0EVPdMBeLMmpYWYLSiXiD7vR9 7NVFzAQhGw3UvCeg0SeUEL1z+prxp1ekO3gkGMy4Fp98g4f6xtq7jK/17AgIkaFRecMV xuO4VM6DKc/fydhw45tu32OVmu7yit0eX2Rgo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OvJ8PFGx0acnIGcmumQyAY9nNmZ7MiAU2x4MEyzQQTKXu8N3K9co0s+VNFodFmIx5v YRVL71kgVkqXtLRIMdDWaujZ9Mls0zsJEfsd43NnvRPxJE14lINp2J820f1U6Utb71X7 S7Y9HiCqDF2xw0pb5WDccY8Yk2BgpZ97FjnTU= Received: by 10.224.89.71 with SMTP id d7mr4510670qam.17.1246242466841; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm13734695qwd.32.2009.06.28.19.27.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A4826A5.6020506@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:27:49 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090626) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281926i54fdac53u1d4681c8060e4d36@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310906281926i54fdac53u1d4681c8060e4d36@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what character is a physical newline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:27:48 -0000 Glen Barber wrote: > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Aryeh M. > Friedman wrote: > >> I am writting a parser (tokenizes all characters among other things) and >> need to know what control char is equivelent to a newline (I do not need >> windows cross compatibility) >> > > What do you mean exactly? What language(s)? If I understand your > question correctly, the C / C++ / Java / PHP (and I think Perl) > 'newline' character is '\n' > > I meant what ascii character does \n actual correspond to (I assume but just making sure) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 02:30:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E961065687 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4946A8FC17 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1635648fxm.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:30:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RhzTeAxQfMWPakA8CFoom73O3lkMzwhhjzsn8XywgPw=; b=mOUEiEjryDSO3eo3uABveVL1RUrh/ga5sLBfoj+dE9TfX9hkCpoN0ocVVe7gzINFTn t8X+mavc7+KuA1Q5wL+gC2E4MYpW/p7oc11hBbz/n+l8gBAtmQb1t7ZLUoT21Sf4Q20d R+Wd5q4uuQA71dwDxELnqtOYpIyqzIaL+ry1I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UDvmr0W8693WhfwdL2wDBq/i+zmu0seOxHNlszhRLi7GBGqRF+LjEt2LkNl2ivgfFk 5RyzxZcKJ9ShHso85xcuAhg33DFXa35JsdREsjrWmF1ZA1KqclfNMOxVm9WP1QyBUWN5 PoAHcJVGCGifBkBkItdFmE82qIdVYm1x2mhVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.56.206 with SMTP id z14mr6626241bkg.34.1246242640286; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:30:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A4826A5.6020506@gmail.com> References: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281926i54fdac53u1d4681c8060e4d36@mail.gmail.com> <4A4826A5.6020506@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:30:40 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310906281930k644b5d5fnf448decf8e489c4c@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what character is a physical newline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:30:42 -0000 On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >> >> What do you mean exactly? =A0What language(s)? =A0If I understand your >> question correctly, the C / C++ / Java / PHP (and I think Perl) >> 'newline' character is '\n' >> >> > > I meant what ascii character does \n actual correspond to (I assume = but > just making sure) > Oh. IIRC, CR is the DOS way, and LR is the POSIX way. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 02:38:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEF0106564A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@vjs.org) Received: from mail.vjs.org (static-71-126-154-132.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.126.154.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F558FC0C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@vjs.org) Received: from [192.168.5.248] (71.126.154.142) by mail.vjs.org with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.1.5) for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:38:21 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4ad871310906281930k644b5d5fnf448decf8e489c4c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281926i54fdac53u1d4681c8060e4d36@mail.gmail.com> <4A4826A5.6020506@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281930k644b5d5fnf448decf8e489c4c@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Eudora 10.0b19 for Cray SV-2 (beta release), unregistered Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:38:20 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Vince Sabio Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: Re: what character is a physical newline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:38:24 -0000 ** At 22:30 -0400 on 06/28/2009, Glen Barber wrote: >On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > >> >>> What do you mean exactly? What language(s)? If I understand your >>> question correctly, the C / C++ / Java / PHP (and I think Perl) > >> 'newline' character is '\n' > > >> I meant what ascii character does \n actual correspond to (I assume but > > just making sure) No, CR is a carriage return, which is a \r in C, and is an ASCII 13 (hex 0D). "Newline" is a line feed (LF), which is a \n in C, and is an ASCII 10 (hex 0A) >Oh. IIRC, CR is the DOS way, and LR is the POSIX way. Not exactly; CRLF is the DOS way, CR is the Macintosh way, and LF is Unix/Posix. HTH. __________________________________________________________________________ Vince Sabio vince@vjs.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 02:39:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9712A1065673 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f186.google.com (mail-qy0-f186.google.com [209.85.221.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486C78FC0A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by qyk16 with SMTP id 16so4143465qyk.3 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:39:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2teYiPvbF02pdBaTzDZDS/TeRGnBrSQDg4NDTg0ngbo=; b=K8QwZQVr0xee/gp0MrMDFw7UwzEqKPFPUfEpAT9tizsOSvtmxTuwuj9wkMiYzpGo8k ParQpsG2vO+FSasCmYFptlh+AoKumv4LiiqZSKwQOQ2DG9EYlSmavLpExWu9xqaTSHtT j3muUVYUvFLnQns4UpCmd+HCFoeVkaJB7QWsI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=saho4E2t8Nb0EAXflj8WvTqU6PjU+1xjBLc0X1sMz0mZq7rVyTyePD6DdX7Rxearny 1KUbezpxYYZfxy6GJGcO97O19OOm8gCdhrnrR29MaC2IeA1BwCLvGCvAtH2hFmL3w4tq xyql2uiBg6cPd9QrUsKovPwybUdLPoeSQHz8k= Received: by 10.224.45.78 with SMTP id d14mr5163105qaf.305.1246243179656; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm12681180qwi.33.2009.06.28.19.39.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A48296D.5050701@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:39:41 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090626) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281926i54fdac53u1d4681c8060e4d36@mail.gmail.com> <4A4826A5.6020506@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281930k644b5d5fnf448decf8e489c4c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310906281930k644b5d5fnf448decf8e489c4c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what character is a physical newline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:39:41 -0000 Glen Barber wrote: > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Aryeh M. > Friedman wrote: > >>> What do you mean exactly? What language(s)? If I understand your >>> question correctly, the C / C++ / Java / PHP (and I think Perl) >>> 'newline' character is '\n' >>> >>> >>> >> I meant what ascii character does \n actual correspond to (I assume but >> just making sure) >> >> > > Oh. IIRC, CR is the DOS way, and LR is the POSIX way. > > Don't you mean LF not LR? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 02:44:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEF7106566C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0708FC0C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:44:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1637854fxm.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:44:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nDHS5HkoWMxgFLJKC2P564pZiFLpPoHF2RTZ4JvL7D8=; b=vxN2jZLrlFF/Nf54bDRqfAam7G5DAHuO6xO0eXZggdM4yhVnhTjbfI2Cg4ldBpIgeW V1StyKJXtLe0jXvsV9cHX2+EFk+mZAHEEeyWNbu+E/Yn4OHF5vcOzT/1HmvNK6PHSceV ka7RaUoVSslIv0BebUP/ukvwKYG7TB9EBEYpQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a+48tU4fXhQYysO6KCIvnr7h0ObpJ31zxR6foE3RWQ/++t+pCZDItOIfZqzFhcuhj7 1HjpQaGazULFnJ1wQhGrHa+Ct793q5NDd0wILTyNkPbosS533fkwFSbX2rMYxH3zdTAQ twleLelOub6nYr2QJvL27uhr3ClR0XNhQ/xnY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.67.146 with SMTP id r18mr3208213bki.88.1246243459550; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:44:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A48296D.5050701@gmail.com> References: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281926i54fdac53u1d4681c8060e4d36@mail.gmail.com> <4A4826A5.6020506@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281930k644b5d5fnf448decf8e489c4c@mail.gmail.com> <4A48296D.5050701@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:44:19 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310906281944r69213c2aia745bf978adcc72@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what character is a physical newline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:44:21 -0000 On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >> Oh. =A0IIRC, CR is the DOS way, and LR is the POSIX way. >> >> > > Don't you mean LF not LR? > I did. I realized it after Vince replied. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 02:46:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BAD106566C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BB08FC12 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so99028bwz.43 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:46:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CWIHghu36ZttW9Uefp3j35NFaN22YHFWTcoeaMzoya4=; b=fPvodlDmW+zjdA4TsaNOG9OYVzGhdo0m5wGv4C8gBVEgRSIhYVNlqcf8rn99se5jWf QKCimjcZW25e+9OaFXguPHiu9y+Bo96hERK8bWY6/p9TBe5giRpluszpGUO4SCqMNnZW zjK9ONl+sTlvAZXdFkq9y4uSJorHBjB6LO+wA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JDJgaaP6weVrUClHvYlW6bTGABSmO/jjLw9LrVpyiYBQYPHHPwTz0JjaDAXLEmVIzO CdYIv0SFfplddhCSxcUaDtPFLfclUIG4VlqrdmzgS16uSmVvWcTBAk6Ed58LtsJt3Jzv EXbYnnyhY5+OxGLafKYUp+uvMhYsH66XnMGsA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.61.204 with SMTP id u12mr6593305bkh.149.1246243572126; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:46:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281926i54fdac53u1d4681c8060e4d36@mail.gmail.com> <4A4826A5.6020506@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281930k644b5d5fnf448decf8e489c4c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:46:12 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310906281946g7ed9c1d6m477fd3dfecc8d330@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Vince Sabio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what character is a physical newline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:46:14 -0000 On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Vince Sabio wrote: > ** At 22:30 -0400 on 06/28/2009, Glen Barber wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >> =A0>> >>>> >>>> =A0What do you mean exactly? =A0What language(s)? =A0If I understand y= our >>>> =A0question correctly, the C / C++ / Java / PHP (and I think Perl) >> >> =A0>> 'newline' character is '\n' >> =A0> >>> >>> =A0I meant what ascii character does \n actual correspond to (I assume = >>> but >> >> =A0> just making sure) > > No, CR is a carriage return, which is a \r in C, and is an ASCII 13 (hex > 0D). > > "Newline" is a line feed (LF), which is a \n in C, and is an ASCII 10 (he= x > 0A) > >> Oh. =A0IIRC, CR is the DOS way, and LR is the POSIX way. > > Not exactly; CRLF is the DOS way, CR is the Macintosh way, and LF is > Unix/Posix. > > HTH. > Thanks for correcting me. Goes to show that bad advice is worse than no advice. :) --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 02:51:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E296D106566C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E54A8FC12 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so563801qwd.7 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:51:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=44HmECi+jsSoUmCcwaFuHaQux90/XY/6kkkIWoznFzk=; b=TtoNQj/RfUPGv9wUMHlQGplNttVdBsaoPpO/VU8dHsoslG9HGF7/PxSFHnsYexfkaC h+F7pCg7hdEi/iKiI426f8itEKVo6ti2GuVQt1jsboqie2mI6OcJ5d7yV8hVCnTn3TMl SgZm8ycdDYyghYMRbAVgds7IpV8PNUp5Hdfj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jmNG49sSUBftRysnoMwYAAJ2Vh/caFkfTELvvgcEP6pFqYkvVtfijgUsMbrUl19Ws7 rGfU42nz3IN+VFtCQSjcUqM3qEFVxlnU9MS7sbNytTcncse3cLiFJzdeJbdJZxO1crDU ymURqGMVrSX+Uf3+P0xg2mxQmtxpTIryJqJ/A= Received: by 10.224.11.136 with SMTP id t8mr5161334qat.308.1246243888681; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm12628553qwi.23.2009.06.28.19.51.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A482C31.6070600@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:51:29 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090626) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281926i54fdac53u1d4681c8060e4d36@mail.gmail.com> <4A4826A5.6020506@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281930k644b5d5fnf448decf8e489c4c@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310906281946g7ed9c1d6m477fd3dfecc8d330@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310906281946g7ed9c1d6m477fd3dfecc8d330@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Vince Sabio , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what character is a physical newline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:51:30 -0000 Just incase you guys are curious the reason for doing the parser from scratch is it is designed to lex/parse families of languages not just a single lang for example (there is very large overlap between c/c++/java/c#/etc. as there is in the tag langs like XML/HTML)... also generators produce unreadable code (and impossible to hand modify if you're not quite happy with the generated code) thus I refer to the design as a heiractical recursive decent parser (i.e. it lexs/parses the commonalties of a family [or set of families {all ascii vs, unicode langs for example are a set of families} before it attempts to handle the actual lang [or family in the case of set of families]). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 03:20:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4076D1065674 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:20:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C081E8FC18 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:20:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so239686eyd.3 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:20:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=68vCT386CjMG7DgY+xDMme9eOp3RaPsF5kN6AJBta1k=; b=Mb45WY8pl+QxGs/XvKsnO45ycj4XZx/IB3JyHeQkC61Erc+F+Vb7kZ5kSMcrmdAkYe 7YjG88+tFnu/OZw5TWPJUbB5qZMh53922yUxNAXuWQ+MdzYGqQohdl8nIiuvK/pbTWCQ dICHawTXlcWXHo4ar3hHSb6FRniQH1tZPWivM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vxOxfwL1TPdzMsse8DmKLlL37zUM+immSujoKPzklbUNdX01sjenXpt3DWoOwAqLte rE3o7aaZA8pgrjFM3IC2GHSdiX7IqCHkMOoBYyCEQurooJ9g7AbYNYlanYMtQZiXzv3t RlxP8P/5xdM05rU+A/l2VoWUZRJUZUOw1/Q8w= Received: by 10.210.80.12 with SMTP id d12mr742703ebb.13.1246245639863; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm5458750eyf.42.2009.06.28.20.20.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:20:30 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090629042030.06e67db0@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F0DF@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F0DF@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.2; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:20:41 -0000 On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:15:12 -0500 "Gary Gatten" wrote: > I like M$ "Notepad" - is there a version of that for FBSD? Actually, there is. Wine implements it's own version of notepad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 04:03:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3042106564A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [74.1.12.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E42A8FC0A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 45431 invoked by uid 1008); 29 Jun 2009 05:08:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@24.193.246.51) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 29 Jun 2009 05:08:31 -0000 Message-ID: <4A483CD3.9040304@el.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:02:27 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: serial modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:03:15 -0000 hi all... my first time using serial ports and modems. the modem is hooked up using RS-232 cable... modem specs: • Baud Rate: 115.2kbps • Bits: 8 • Stop Bits: 1 • Parity: none • Hardware Handshaking: Yes my /etc/ttys: ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" dialup on ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" dialup on then i do: # kill -HUP 1 ps shows: 62496 0.0 0.2 3184 952 ?? I 10:53PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 ttyd0 62667 0.0 0.2 3184 1004 ?? I 11:37PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 ttyd1 according to the handbook i would see the above. i'm not sure if i need both ttyd0 and 1 since i have hooked only one modem but there is no explanation about that in the handbook. messages says: Jun 28 23:37:17 moo getty[62667]: open /dev/ttyd1: No such file or directory and no other entries... so i guess that settles the need of ttyd1!?! ok. so now i put in /etc/remote: sio0|com1:dv=/dev/cuad0:br#115200:pa=none: and, following the instructions in the handbook, try reaching the modem doing: # tip -v cuad0 i get: tip: unknown host tip0 dmesg says: sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] and in the /etc/gettytab i have: std.115200|115200-baud:\ :np:sp#115200: what next? thanks.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 04:08:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB393106564A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:08:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945AF8FC22 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:08:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so3455059yxe.3 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:08:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rBOVk+XSH+su0f3WFhOAVaty+g4GQrPZ1g6kn5UnKVI=; b=CU9YYVaJhY9B6Sfu5l8PnFpvIaG48Uam73I/UO8hbvyfUXJUoqqQisDYgwJgR43joY DdS/y9zlRo+uDCt7ZLC80pU5ao2ziGRr51DMwWpbT8dObUGy2ezQyxk7OLBw6Dxf2AUl +V6VecIaEitIfImVBxCxn32+UVc1PhGKOQtz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XnYxhz9ydiMxV0uORrypgjAAooZd+3R7D/DqCBmIJAbPZsikgeJQJrDI8OgZsihuuV Jaaod15TZ3gc1Df23YPH93uCGt/vpFMZ+geiSmnMIKX4kTqIhN1WfWdKtqBd5iLmBGcq 5d1NspdYXvtRcpBEgrhcULbMXOpt0e3SdjSlI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.139.1 with SMTP id r1mr2980996ybn.339.1246248529930; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:08:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090629003005.GE15815@comcast.net> References: <6ae50c2d0906281009n24381ad3j59125e237739ca2c@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0906281340p68b5f8ewa41095e694cf5ff8@mail.gmail.com> <20090629003005.GE15815@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:08:49 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0906282108nc34322m4d0563b2f1ad8c1b@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: libtool shared X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:08:51 -0000 On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Charlie Kester wrot= e: > On Sun 28 Jun 2009 at 16:10:51 PDT Michael Powell wrote: >> >> alexus wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Michael Powell >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> alexus wrote: >> >> [snip] >>> >>> company policy not too use ports, any other suggestions? >> >> Change this company policy as it is unproductive. Sounds like something >> implemented by those lacking experience with FreeBSD. >> >> The time port maintainers have spent developing patch sets that ensure a= n >> easy build and install is not being leveraged. The time you spend >> developing >> your own workarounds to build software with the various autotools is mor= e >> waste, you are duplicating efforts already made by others. The amount of >> time and effort you will spend when it comes time to update is effort >> wasted, because now you are duplicating the efforts of others yet *again= *. >> >> If the company policy is dictated by people who have no concept of how t= o >> manage efficient man-hour usage, and who will not listen when others hav= e >> superior suggestions, your company has other problems besides it's lack = of >> knowledge concerning FreeBSD. >> >> -Mike > > If management refuses to listen to reason, you can still benefit from > the efforts of the port maintainers by studying their makefiles and > patches. Their stuff builds and installs correctly, or it would never > have been committed into the portstree. > It's probably a lot easier to understand the FreeBSD porting system than > it is to understand the autotools suite. =C2=A0;-) > =C2=A0_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > Ok, can we get off subject of managment and get to the actual subject of this issue? I didn't had any issues while doing exact same thing on another box, so, it's this particular box that wont compile it properly is there any suggestions towards solution for this particular problem (other then changing managment) =3D) --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 05:57:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757A11065672 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 05:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E943E8FC13 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 05:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5T5usS0016745; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:57:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n5T5usS0016745 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1246255026; bh=hEh5W6Wf2lRBgbGcGe1H20x99RRm7hfLictD4piKv68=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A4857A0.6040809@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2029=20Jun=202009=2006:56:48=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.22=20(X11/20090625)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20"Aryeh=20M.=20Friedman"=20|CC:=20Glen=20Barber=20,=20freebsd-que stions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20what=20character=20is=20a=20ph ysical=20newline|References:=20<4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com>=09<4ad 871310906281926i54fdac53u1d4681c8060e4d36@mail.gmail.com>=20<4A482 6A5.6020506@gmail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<4A4826A5.6020506@gmail.com> |X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B= 20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signa ture"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig659A101F2CBC873A79D19 E08"; b=XOT0z+sGTUuBe51y+0rlKOfOPsWhsuDnMvnMxU4Rq8+bt0cMnWvrfCk/Alw1H20Qx tU70BrAMw9OgVNm1013faGZMdDcK9VNyE3sFlSwxTYMW7qH1L3gtkAcUn38L1SvcwG 74eAKPvxRg7auF8rGsO77R5DGIsv7m5vCeY6dYsk= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A4857A0.6040809@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:56:48 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090625) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281926i54fdac53u1d4681c8060e4d36@mail.gmail.com> <4A4826A5.6020506@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A4826A5.6020506@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig659A101F2CBC873A79D19E08" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Glen Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what character is a physical newline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 05:57:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig659A101F2CBC873A79D19E08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > Glen Barber wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Aryeh M. >> Friedman wrote: >> =20 >>> I am writting a parser (tokenizes all characters among other things) = and >>> need to know what control char is equivelent to a newline (I do not n= eed >>> windows cross compatibility) >>> =20 >> >> What do you mean exactly? What language(s)? If I understand your >> question correctly, the C / C++ / Java / PHP (and I think Perl) >> 'newline' character is '\n' >> >> =20 > I meant what ascii character does \n actual correspond to (I assume =20 > but just making sure) On Unix, the end of line character is NL (012 octal, 10 decimal, 0x0a hex= ) -- see ascii(7). Some people know it as Ctrl-J Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig659A101F2CBC873A79D19E08 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkpIV6YACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxEbgCggdd3d2f9m/iBk+p5bP0q1sAs NdAAoIzAXCkI1UjsooAs1kEw6UCffoDt =2nYc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig659A101F2CBC873A79D19E08-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 06:33:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD8F1065676 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:33:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62558FC27 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:33:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,308,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="107010665" Received: from unknown (HELO glynthebearded.millingtons.org) ([82.152.120.109]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 29 Jun 2009 07:33:55 +0100 Received: by glynthebearded.millingtons.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BCCCC5C4F; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:28:24 +0100 (BST) From: Glyn Millington To: Polytropon Organization: Central Church, Torquay, U.K. References: <4A430505.2020909@gmail.com> <200906261033.58894.erich@apsara.com.sg> <20090626045808.fb3b0c8d.freebsd@edvax.de> <200906261203.23172.erich@apsara.com.sg> <20090626061157.4e846d36.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090626052317.GB32901@thought.org> <20090626080102.ccc76a10.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Liturgical-Date: Solemnity: Saints Peter and Paul, apostles, A.D. 2009 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:28:24 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20090626080102.ccc76a10.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:01:02 +0200") Message-ID: <86hbxzimev.fsf@nowhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glyn@millingtons.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:33:57 -0000 Polytropon writes: > When Bill G. arrives at the pearly gate, ol' Pete won't ask > him what he did do, instead send him to MICROS~1 C:\HELL.EXE > with the advice to click on the devil to start the everlasting > pain. :-) Brilliant!! atb Glyn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 07:07:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759DC106566C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C0D8FC1A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::2]) by wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5T77bUi019004; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:07:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5T72IRH001372; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:02:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n5T72HxC001369; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:02:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:02:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: kalin m In-Reply-To: <4A483CD3.9040304@el.net> Message-ID: References: <4A483CD3.9040304@el.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:07:35 -0000 > > ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" dialup on > ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" dialup on > > then i do: > # kill -HUP 1 > > ps shows: > 62496 0.0 0.2 3184 952 ?? I 10:53PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 > ttyd0 > 62667 0.0 0.2 3184 1004 ?? I 11:37PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 > ttyd1 of course you need only ttyd0. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 08:50:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA3B106566C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:50:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18ECA8FC12 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so1089787rvb.3 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:50:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FGIb0ClpYgRe6pd72ivj8vfC63LOsGLKgvAJfzbd8Iw=; b=pYGGSOxlJuZZdtp61zsAO3n6u+QP+H6GBuyANED6gRK7mXsWE+FpjljDMRuabk6T13 BmuiIMr3vZfVyJ2ikADjK9ct26t8R0qcFHu6b7hB68cIIrH/ML5b8NNK4WhnVsSKnwy4 6Xn2XVHwqxMTIhIw3DZ6gaPLsFcc+8+OYkglw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mKlmLAkuUe4UDsAvaPMtuMQRe3tVg7XT+0Vr5RRVdRaShgt852kBN1T9O9ZMVC1FM5 SI+tH4bhq7Mk4njx56uyTY9WplIm+SH4jE/1WKHu9UOfNTFt7esTWuUbF53CyYuS0rcP LCrkidh7LOp2CsuB8TpI0246ATvJYgGO19IG8= Received: by 10.140.200.5 with SMTP id x5mr278958rvf.39.1246265447711; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?152.144.218.46? ([203.92.44.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g14sm21464167rvb.54.2009.06.29.01.50.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A488062.1090803@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:20:42 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Underwood References: <4A430505.2020909@gmail.com> <200906261033.58894.erich@apsara.com.sg> <20090626045808.fb3b0c8d.freebsd@edvax.de> <200906261203.23172.erich@apsara.com.sg> <20090626061157.4e846d36.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090626052317.GB32901@thought.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:50:48 -0000 Daniel Underwood wrote: > How did "The question of moving vi to /bin" end up as two different > conversations for me in gmail? > Hello Daniel, When I did a 'Reply to All', the moderator blocked the posting claiming too high a number of recipients. I cancelled the posting, and resent it using 'Reply to Sender'. I don't know whether the original posting itself got through as well. -- Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-96500-10329 Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 09:22:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04D8106564A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845968FC1E for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from marge.bs.l (e180044049.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.180.44.49]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKv5w-1MLD400mM5-000Kbr; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:22:12 +0200 Received: from bsch by marge.bs.l with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MLD3z-000757-PL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:22:11 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:22:11 +0200 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090629092211.GB26781@marge.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281926i54fdac53u1d4681c8060e4d36@mail.gmail.com> <4A4826A5.6020506@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A4826A5.6020506@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+8x1ZHPU+j6w/hFiy9E7Nhu8V4g/zBVddLWlh gbjWDGSYp5irkfyNd+nNsOtebSNeV4gUl9G87yQQyodkjrLP2z DDWE/7HGUZCz+a4ACqA0DnbQvn91bPC Subject: Re: what character is a physical newline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:22:14 -0000 Hi, Am Sonntag, 28. Jun 2009, 22:27:49 -0400 schrieb Aryeh M. Friedman: > Glen Barber wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Aryeh M. >> Friedman wrote: >> >>> I am writting a parser (tokenizes all characters among other things) and >>> need to know what control char is equivelent to a newline (I do not need >>> windows cross compatibility) >> >> What do you mean exactly? What language(s)? If I understand your >> question correctly, the C / C++ / Java / PHP (and I think Perl) >> 'newline' character is '\n' >> > I meant what ascii character does \n actual correspond to (I assume > but just making sure) $ perl -e 'print ord("\n"), "\n"' 10 $ python -c 'print ord("\n")' 10 $ ruby -e 'puts "\n"[0]' 10 $ cat nl.c #include "stdio.h" int main(int argc, char **argv) { printf( "%d\n", '\n'); return 0; } $ cc -o nl nl.c $ ./nl 10 $ echo | od -d 0000000 10 0000001 Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 09:39:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACFD1065670; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644F78FC08; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MLDKC-0003Lo-T9; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:39:01 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MLDKA-00003g-Jf; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:38:55 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5T9cr66044237; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:38:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5T9crfU044236; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:38:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:38:53 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <20090629093853.GA44061@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090625110253.GA31443@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <10FCC74D-6D46-4112-AD89-BBB4C5933957@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <10FCC74D-6D46-4112-AD89-BBB4C5933957@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:39:03 -0000 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:41:13AM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:02 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > dev_taste(DEV,mirror/gm0) > > g_part_taste(PART,mirror/gm0) > > > > GEOM: mirror/gm0: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. > > GEOM: mirror/gm0: using the primary only -- recovery suggested. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > You created the mirror after the GPT, which means you destroyed > the GPT backup header. gmirror uses the last sector on the disk > for metadata and that by itself is a cause for various problems. So, gmirror cannot be used on ia64 to mirror the boot disk? Because on ia64 the last sector always contains secondary GPT. I take it the RAID1 section, 19.4, in FBSD user manual, was written with i386 or alpha architecture in mind. > It's better to use gmirror per partition. how? Is it in the manual? any link? > > #echo 'geom_mirror_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf > > Is /boot a symlink for /efi/boot? yes, lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8 Jun 25 10:44 boot -> efi/boot > > And when the system is rebooted, there is no /dev/mirror anymore. > > You could run into a race condition between GPT and gmirror and > GPT winning (again the result of gmirror using the last sector > on a disk for metadata). > > Alternatively, make sure gmirror got loaded at boot. # kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 3 0xe000000004000000 ff9c08 kernel 2 1 0xe000000004ffa000 3c830 geom_mirror.ko # It's not that I desperately need to mirror a boot disk, it just that gmirror looked so easy in the manual, I wanted to give it a go. Perhaps I can just do a block copy to the second disk, say once a day, and have it as a backup. Could you also possibly comment on gvinum on ia64? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 10:53:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83F51065673 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from siyan.hadzhiev@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CEB8FC13 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from siyan.hadzhiev@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so251156bwz.43 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:53:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IxIENMIfLfkNPQCJ4w5DEs0zddOKF3hlHYv28SJrCdo=; b=Ulrd1ADTFm97Sb4E1bP+ah5UbPy3wP+F1By6kztGALPX2TcFmghs+cT9myl5x/JZYM D1u4JjhXi5xtS9THJSvZZCMoiU22zKEO+o2jSTulb4MJMkloMHSwPewzHmRWXXtW7o+I 3C/PxqQw7WA1K3lz6NVsfzppP0P0uW/Tdeeec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=aI5MLqf2Ph3E6FL5wa8OihbC+6cSdeXPaIogFSIiA0yD+jCiEB7+UmJXVcZPvkdkut UFzvEhjEswz2KgI4DVG4KLMP7mMRcfGzjf0IPdnmHkNpaamXIN1i9qElWwVYuzyFlbwu VBxQqC6LgQbdEvRDNB4H6I6UfT8v+A8hXjiLY= Received: by 10.103.167.14 with SMTP id u14mr4029301muo.55.1246272834701; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?81.91.16.243? ([81.91.16.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j6sm15553272mue.1.2009.06.29.03.53.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:53:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Siyan Sabinov Hadzhiev To: Jose Garcia Juanino In-Reply-To: <20090628203309.GA1842@banach> References: <1246213557.1855.1.camel@bsdt43.turbo.net.tr> <20090628203309.GA1842@banach> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:53:48 +0300 Message-Id: <1246272828.10487.5.camel@bsdt43.turbo.net.tr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.2 - iwi error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:53:57 -0000 Thank you for your reply Jose , I have configure bmiss parameter in rc.conf as you said and enable debug.iwi in sysctl , Bellow you can see the log entries. Jun 29 13:40:13 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:40:13 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 393 dwell 150/30/30 Jun 29 13:40:13 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 1/BCAST Jun 29 13:40:13 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=13 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:40:13 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=14 type=23 len=0 Jun 29 13:40:13 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 2) Jun 29 13:40:13 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:40:43 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:40:43 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 394 dwell 150/30/30 Jun 29 13:40:43 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 6/BCAST Jun 29 13:40:43 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=15 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:40:44 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:40:44 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:40:44 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:40:44 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 395 dwell 108/30/30 Jun 29 13:40:44 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 11/BCAST Jun 29 13:40:44 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=0 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:40:44 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:40:44 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:40:44 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:40:44 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 396 dwell 50/30/30 Jun 29 13:40:44 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 7/BCAST Jun 29 13:40:44 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=1 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:40:44 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:40:44 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:40:59 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:40:59 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 397 dwell 149/30/30 Jun 29 13:40:59 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 13/BCAST Jun 29 13:40:59 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=2 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:40:59 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:40:59 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:40:59 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:40:59 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 398 dwell 91/30/30 Jun 29 13:40:59 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 2/BCAST Jun 29 13:40:59 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=3 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:40:59 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=4 type=23 len=0 Jun 29 13:40:59 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 2) Jun 29 13:40:59 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 399 dwell 150/30/30 Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 3/BCAST Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=5 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 400 dwell 91/30/30 Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 4/BCAST Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=6 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 401 dwell 33/30/30 Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 5/BCAST Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=7 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=8 type=23 len=0 Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 2) Jun 29 13:41:09 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:19 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:19 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 402 dwell 150/30/30 Jun 29 13:41:19 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 8/BCAST Jun 29 13:41:19 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=9 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:41:19 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:41:19 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:19 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:19 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 403 dwell 106/30/30 Jun 29 13:41:19 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 9/BCAST Jun 29 13:41:19 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=10 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:41:19 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=11 type=23 len=0 Jun 29 13:41:19 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 2) Jun 29 13:41:19 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 404 dwell 150/30/30 Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 10/BCAST Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=12 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 405 dwell 111/30/30 Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 12/BCAST Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=13 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 406 dwell 62/30/30 Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 14/BCAST Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=14 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:41:40 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:46:48 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:46:48 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 407 dwell 150/30/30 Jun 29 13:46:48 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 1/BCAST Jun 29 13:46:48 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=15 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:46:48 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:46:48 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:46:48 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:46:48 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 408 dwell 52/30/30 Jun 29 13:46:48 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 6/BCAST Jun 29 13:46:48 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=0 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:46:48 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:46:48 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:46:53 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:46:53 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 409 dwell 149/30/30 Jun 29 13:46:53 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 11/BCAST Jun 29 13:46:53 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=1 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:46:53 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:46:53 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:46:53 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:46:53 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 410 dwell 69/30/30 Jun 29 13:46:53 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 7/BCAST Jun 29 13:46:53 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=2 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:46:53 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:46:53 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:46:58 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:46:58 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 411 dwell 149/30/30 Jun 29 13:46:58 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 13/BCAST Jun 29 13:46:58 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=3 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:46:58 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:46:58 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:46:58 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:46:58 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 412 dwell 56/30/30 Jun 29 13:46:58 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 2/BCAST Jun 29 13:46:58 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=4 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:46:58 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:46:58 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:03 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:03 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 413 dwell 149/30/30 Jun 29 13:47:03 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 3/BCAST Jun 29 13:47:03 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=5 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:47:03 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:47:03 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:03 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:03 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 414 dwell 74/30/30 Jun 29 13:47:03 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 4/BCAST Jun 29 13:47:03 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=6 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:47:04 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:47:04 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:04 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:04 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 415 dwell 22/30/30 Jun 29 13:47:04 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 5/BCAST Jun 29 13:47:04 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=7 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:47:04 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:47:04 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:09 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:09 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 416 dwell 149/30/30 Jun 29 13:47:09 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 8/BCAST Jun 29 13:47:09 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=8 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:47:09 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:47:09 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:09 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:09 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 417 dwell 63/30/30 Jun 29 13:47:09 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 9/BCAST Jun 29 13:47:09 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=9 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:47:09 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:47:09 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 418 dwell 149/30/30 Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 10/BCAST Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=10 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 419 dwell 111/30/30 Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 12/BCAST Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=11 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 420 dwell 63/30/30 Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 14/BCAST Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=12 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:47:18 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 421 dwell 150/30/30 Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 1/BCAST Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=13 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 422 dwell 92/30/30 Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 6/BCAST Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=14 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 423 dwell 41/30/30 Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 11/BCAST Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=15 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:52:21 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 424 dwell 149/30/30 Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 7/BCAST Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=0 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 425 dwell 107/30/30 Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 13/BCAST Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=1 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: enter FW state 4 Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: Scan request: index 426 dwell 49/30/30 Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: Scan 1 2.4GHz channels: 2/BCAST Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: sending command idx=2 type=26 len=96 Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: Scan completed (1, 1) Jun 29 13:52:26 bsdt43 kernel: exit FW state 4 I remembered that these entries were like yours , Beacon Miss.. Now they have changed to something different.The "iwi0 device timeout" errors went away after the bmiss config. So I will try with this config , and I think it will work for me. Thank you very much for your mail once again. Best Regards. Siyan On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 22:33 +0200, Jose Garcia Juanino wrote: > El domingo 28 de junio a las 20:25:51 CEST, Siyan Sabinov Hadzhiev escribió: > > > > Hello List , > > > > I am new in this list , so if these is an old topic forgive me.I have > > successfully installed FreeBSD 7.2 to IBM T43 Laptop.I am using wireless > > network with WPA key.My Laptop has Intel Pro Wireless 2200.I installed > > iwi driver and firmware successfully. > > > > I am successfully connecting to my home and ofis wireless networks with > > wpa supplicant.However every 4 or 5 minutes my connection gets down and > > i got "iwi0: firmware stuck in state 4 , resetting " and then "iwi0 > > device timeout " errors.These drops my connection , after that it take > > 30 seconds to my connection come back up.Then after 5 minutes again same > > errors and these goes on. > > > > I search a little bit on Google however find nothing usefull. > > > > Is there anybody who faced with same problem? > > And is there any solutions or upgrades for that issue. > > I have such wireless interface on a Dell Latitude D505, and I have > experienced that annoying problem many times. > > Enable debug.iwi sysctl and tell us what messages you see in > /var/log/messages log file. > > In my own laptop, I saw these messages before the disconnection: > > XXXXX kernel: Beacon miss: XX >= YY > > After that I increased bmissthreshold parameter of ifconfig in rc.conf, > and the problem went away. > > Hope this helps, and sorry for my poor english. > > Best regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 11:39:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2C11065688 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f186.google.com (mail-qy0-f186.google.com [209.85.221.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233DF8FC28 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by qyk16 with SMTP id 16so4337358qyk.3 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:39:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=33vwEyFGghMopY9BJ7pe3obpVFTsrOpefcxGBL2F88A=; b=egMVPzHDBBrrXk19iEmebMvTQtB7OmdKPR/vxxqGsUakaxfPcCKojwH+x5ynuiHgg8 A2fJqW9TGxGUlZWulEdcb/RDhnpE+8Cytg2teFhbSBcXjB39XOa/JlJd+nPEAJqnRid9 0JfU9c/NVTFrcHETSZRB6W7NBMEyCvUVFIAx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aw+ZLK5/dc9poZbN+3xyNH3fm+Rvp4X68S5D6rrgidb7GbFzc0JNN6WNdsnE/ea3/Q cDLYzYsphfFJnEut52w6RK4mqKrrE4k3mBlnuryNI8HWFcUzuIINIjYyXWyHsonTmxSo bV/XT5/sgPcWfheWvh6LdTTQ1drzPhdB6Se6w= Received: by 10.224.73.149 with SMTP id q21mr1539794qaj.248.1246275564425; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 26sm15590234qwa.47.2009.06.29.04.39.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A48A7EC.4070702@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:39:24 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090626) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: how do I append a PR I submitted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:39:25 -0000 See subject From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 11:44:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB285106566C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scjamorim@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8699E8FC0A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scjamorim@bsd.com.br) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so3482636ewy.43 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:44:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.63.18 with SMTP id l18mr2873444eba.71.1246275876622; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:44:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A48A7EC.4070702@gmail.com> References: <4A48A7EC.4070702@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:44:36 -0300 Message-ID: <5859850b0906290444x3692f9cdxace3c0b096b5f71c@mail.gmail.com> From: Sylvio Cesar To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I append a PR I submitted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:44:38 -0000 You could to use: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/porting-submitting.html or http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html Regards, Sylvio Cesar 2009/6/29 Aryeh M. Friedman : > See subject > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 13:10:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2BD106566C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faust64@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E80D8FC0C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faust64@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1864799fxm.43 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:10:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=evAueltZlOm5/skVRHmyzSvY2BfLZgf+C2MNbKt6pFA=; b=Mh7Vi2Q521eVwXF+NKY9kKgKYz3PnfFwBZXJLlExBjVDynswqKefRFtJbv8oWEnzBm PlNsP1n2YjRbke5HYG07p1YnQ6825TmiJjEjxUe1i3cxBa5IsTJ/KFIAhsMY5Xy8jnR2 awhBhs372WoRFSH05evsQczQs5yk6bmyCWf7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=MUlIjQ9WUnk9aH5VRFfMlK2FctDT6kyTqsrd3B+n0lBn2bBWrf6w2NmWYSf6chLwKe lLhvB1DXPdnhAaFXnpLBTVQjy41l9BhInGyq5nBuWpWTMNuXhLBGsBahivwQLVTdajmt 4yr8VDdDGzcD1YwYLdMGRhKXfLq8mroQ1w9+g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.76.199 with SMTP id d7mr3742722bkk.74.1246281038157; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:10:38 -0700 (PDT) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Mart=EDn_Moro?= Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:10:18 +0200 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD & FireWire X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:10:40 -0000 Hi all ! I'm trying to read from two firewire DV cameras. calling fwcontrol without arguments shows me three elements. except EUI64 field, every datas (node, ...) change when I plug in or out a device. when I'm trying to read from my cameras' streams (using fwcontrol), I alway= s get the same stream, which is the one of the last camera I pluged in. Reading the sources, I noticed you can specify your source in fwcontrol, using option 'u'. this option makes an strtol on the following argument, and uses it back to open "/dev/fw%d.0" so I looked my /dev, and all I got is fw0, fw0.0, fwmem0, fwmem-0.0 fw0 and wfmem0 are respectives links to fw0.0 and fwmem0.0 so, whatever i could ask, i'll always get the same source camera. When there already is a plugged firewire device, I can plug in or out other= s FW devices, without affecting my /dev. How can I do to get all my FW devices associed to a file in /dev? Thanks for your help. Sorry for my english. Samuel Mart=EDn Moro CamTrace {EPITECH.} tek3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 14:59:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5AF106564A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f212.google.com (mail-yx0-f212.google.com [209.85.210.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37938FC1C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:59:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by yxe25 with SMTP id 25so4691364yxe.19 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:59:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Received: by 10.90.98.13 with SMTP id v13mr190031agb.12.1246287589427; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <0016364ed6500e4eaf046d7df1d9@google.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:59:49 +0000 From: af300wsm@gmail.com To: Daniel Underwood , af300wsm@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: Re: Which latex should I install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:59:50 -0000 On Jun 26, 2009 7:32am, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install > TeXLive for everything to work. > Suggestion: try teTeX. If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive. Daniel, I wanted to ask, but neglected to until now, did you install from the DVD or the network? Also, did you install for FreeBSD (pre-compiled binaries), or did you install Linux binaries? Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 15:01:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADBB1065860 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5ED8FC1C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9p5F1c00B0EPchoA7r1a5q; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:01:34 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9r1Y1c00J1f6R9u8Mr1ZW8; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:01:34 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:01:31 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:01:31 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090629150131.GF15815@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6ae50c2d0906281009n24381ad3j59125e237739ca2c@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0906281340p68b5f8ewa41095e694cf5ff8@mail.gmail.com> <20090629003005.GE15815@comcast.net> <6ae50c2d0906282108nc34322m4d0563b2f1ad8c1b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0906282108nc34322m4d0563b2f1ad8c1b@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: libtool shared X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:01:34 -0000 On Sun 28 Jun 2009 at 21:08:49 PDT alexus wrote: >I didn't had any issues while doing exact same thing on another box, >so, it's this particular box that wont compile it properly is there any >suggestions towards solution for this particular problem (other then >changing managment) =) That's new and important information! What's different about this box that makes the difference? You're using the exact same sourcecode, correct? And the exact same toolchain? What environment variables are set on the failing machine? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 15:07:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7B61065696 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:07:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8874D8FC1C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:07:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C558BEB52AB; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:07:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B942C45088; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:07:35 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C1cQ4m2+K1L5; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:07:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl105-76.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.224.76]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B1B4503F; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:07:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5TF7Y0w003854; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:07:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5TF7Xcw003853; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:07:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <4A48A7EC.4070702@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:07:33 +0300 In-Reply-To: <4A48A7EC.4070702@gmail.com> (Aryeh M. Friedman's message of "Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:39:24 -0400") Message-ID: <87r5x3t6x6.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I append a PR I submitted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:07:38 -0000 On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:39:24 -0400, "Aryeh M. Friedman" wrote: > See subject Please don't do that. Subject is for a short summary, and in this case the summary is so short that the question may be misunderstood. * Do you want to append more information to an _existing_ PR? * Do you want to _add_ a new PR to the database? In the first case, you can just email `bug-followup@freebsd.org' using a subject of the form: Re: docs/100200: summary of the PR here In the second case, see the `Writing FreeBSD Problem Reports' article at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 15:14:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD731065674 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:14:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BFD8FC1A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:14:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n5TFASYx080961; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:10:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n5TFASE4080960; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:10:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:10:28 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Vince Sabio Message-ID: <20090629151028.GD80667@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281926i54fdac53u1d4681c8060e4d36@mail.gmail.com> <4A4826A5.6020506@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281930k644b5d5fnf448decf8e489c4c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what character is a physical newline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:14:02 -0000 On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:38:20PM -0400, Vince Sabio wrote: > ** At 22:30 -0400 on 06/28/2009, Glen Barber wrote: > >On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > > >> > >>> What do you mean exactly? What language(s)? If I understand your > >>> question correctly, the C / C++ / Java / PHP (and I think Perl) > > >> 'newline' character is '\n' > > > > >> I meant what ascii character does \n actual correspond to (I assume > >> but > > > just making sure) > > No, CR is a carriage return, which is a \r in C, and is an ASCII 13 (hex > 0D). > > "Newline" is a line feed (LF), which is a \n in C, and is an ASCII 10 (hex > 0A) > > >Oh. IIRC, CR is the DOS way, and LR is the POSIX way. > > Not exactly; CRLF is the DOS way, CR is the Macintosh way, and LF is > Unix/Posix. A quick Google search for ASCII came up with this page: http://www.asciitable.com/ Which correctly lists Line Feed (LF) as: Decimal 10, Hex 0A, Octal 012 Carriage Return (CR) is: Decimal 13, Hex 0D, Octal 015 ////jerry > > HTH. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > Vince Sabio vince@vjs.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 15:16:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2695610656A4 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D048FC2B for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n5TFCUNB081011; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:12:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n5TFCU2t081010; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:12:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:12:30 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20090629151229.GE80667@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A48252C.1090808@gmail.com> <4ad871310906281926i54fdac53u1d4681c8060e4d36@mail.gmail.com> <4A4826A5.6020506@gmail.com> <4A4857A0.6040809@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A4857A0.6040809@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "Aryeh M. Friedman" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what character is a physical newline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:16:03 -0000 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 06:56:48AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > >Glen Barber wrote: > >>On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Aryeh M. > >>Friedman wrote: > >> > >>>I am writting a parser (tokenizes all characters among other things) and > >>>need to know what control char is equivelent to a newline (I do not need > >>>windows cross compatibility) > >>> > >> > >>What do you mean exactly? What language(s)? If I understand your > >>question correctly, the C / C++ / Java / PHP (and I think Perl) > >>'newline' character is '\n' > >> > >> > >I meant what ascii character does \n actual correspond to (I assume > >but just making sure) > > On Unix, the end of line character is NL (012 octal, 10 decimal, 0x0a hex) > -- > see ascii(7). Some people know it as Ctrl-J Gee, wouldn't you know it, in FreeBSD, there is even a man page for it. ////jerry > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 15:20:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CF41065680 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C13C8FC12 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5TFJxSo002599; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:20:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 41205574B1; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:19:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3363F574A5; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:19:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:19:58 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:19:58 -0500 Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F0F5@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <20090629042030.06e67db0@gumby.homeunix.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: The question of moving vi to /bin Thread-Index: Acn4aLDjI0rOCymAT7SCrsAi+woY5gAZEIGA References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F0DF@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <20090629042030.06e67db0@gumby.homeunix.com> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "RW" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2009 15:19:58.0894 (UTC) FILETIME=[10B34CE0:01C9F8CD] Cc: Subject: RE: The question of moving vi to /bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:20:31 -0000 Good to know, but I was just being a smart-a$$. I will have to try out WINE though, been reading about it lately.. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of RW Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 10:21 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /bin On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:15:12 -0500 "Gary Gatten" wrote: > I like M$ "Notepad" - is there a version of that for FBSD?=20 Actually, there is. Wine implements it's own version of notepad. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 15:35:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92561065679 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B328FC08 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n5TFVn9U081108; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:31:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n5TFVnSM081107; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:31:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:31:49 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Message-ID: <20090629153148.GG80667@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A48A7EC.4070702@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A48A7EC.4070702@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I append a PR I submitted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:35:22 -0000 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 07:39:24AM -0400, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > See subject It is impolite to expect someone responding to a message to have to go back to the subject line like this. > See subject is a very inadequate and somewhat tersely offensive. It certainly does not help those with a text based Email reader that does not show the subject in the included text for a response. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 15:41:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB27A1065678 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentb@beanfield.com) Received: from smtp0.beanfield.net (smtp0.beanfield.net [66.207.192.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D1B8FC0C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentb@beanfield.com) Received: from brent.local ([66.207.193.249]) by smtp0.beanfield.net (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n5TFdFdL066774; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:39:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brentb@beanfield.com) Message-ID: <4A48E09D.3000102@beanfield.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:41:17 -0400 From: Brent Bloxam Organization: Beanfield Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kalin m References: <4A483CD3.9040304@el.net> In-Reply-To: <4A483CD3.9040304@el.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:41:28 -0000 kalin m wrote: > > hi all... > > my first time using serial ports and modems. the modem is hooked up > using RS-232 cable... > > modem specs: > > • Baud Rate: 115.2kbps > • Bits: 8 > • Stop Bits: 1 > • Parity: none > • Hardware Handshaking: Yes > > > my /etc/ttys: > > ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" dialup on > ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" dialup on > > then i do: > # kill -HUP 1 > > ps shows: > 62496 0.0 0.2 3184 952 ?? I 10:53PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty > std.115200 ttyd0 > 62667 0.0 0.2 3184 1004 ?? I 11:37PM 0:00.00 /usr/libexec/getty > std.115200 ttyd1 > > according to the handbook i would see the above. i'm not sure if i need > both ttyd0 and 1 since i have hooked only one modem but there is no > explanation about that in the handbook. > > messages says: > Jun 28 23:37:17 moo getty[62667]: open /dev/ttyd1: No such file or > directory > > and no other entries... so i guess that settles the need of ttyd1!?! > > ok. so now i put in /etc/remote: > sio0|com1:dv=/dev/cuad0:br#115200:pa=none: > > and, following the instructions in the handbook, try reaching the modem > doing: > # tip -v cuad0 > > i get: > tip: unknown host tip0 > I've no experience with serial modems, but having read the man pages I believe your remote(5) line is incorrect. sio0|com1:dv=/dev/cuad0:br#115200:pa=none: sets system names sio0 and com1, then you try to execute tip to connect to cuad0. Is there an entry for cuad0 in your /etc/remote? I'm confused as to why tip is returning 'unknown host tip0' however. Give `tip -v sio0` a shot, or change the system names in your /etc/remote line From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 15:47:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A612710656B1 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:47:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681258FC16 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:47:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MLJ5D-0001Tu-6G; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:47:52 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MLJ5C-0004gI-H2; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:47:50 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5TFloHd047710; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:47:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5TFlod7047709; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:47:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:47:50 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <200906291547.n5TFlod7047709@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> To: aryeh.friedman@gmail.com, jerrymc@msu.edu In-Reply-To: <20090629153148.GG80667@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I append a PR I submitted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:47:53 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 15:50:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08E0106567D for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC448FC4B for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MLJ83-00024h-NA; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:50:49 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MLJ83-0004ib-1t; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:50:47 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5TFokWd047761; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:50:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5TFokHe047760; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:50:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:50:46 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Jerry McAllister Message-ID: <20090629155046.GA47713@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <4A48A7EC.4070702@gmail.com> <20090629153148.GG80667@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090629153148.GG80667@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: "Aryeh M. Friedman" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I append a PR I submitted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:50:52 -0000 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:31:49AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 07:39:24AM -0400, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > > > See subject > > is a very inadequate and somewhat tersely offensive. > It certainly does not help those with a text based Email reader > that does not show the subject in the included text for a response. which mail reader do you have in mind? I use mail and mutt, and I'm happy with simple questions in subject. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 15:54:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B161065670 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0D28FC1B for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.72]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9oJE1c0021ZXKqc5AruwRR; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:54:56 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9rvs1c00C1f6R9u3hrvspc; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:55:54 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:54:53 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:54:52 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090629155452.GG15815@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F0DF@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <20090629042030.06e67db0@gumby.homeunix.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F0F5@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F0F5@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:54:56 -0000 On Mon 29 Jun 2009 at 08:19:58 PDT Gary Gatten wrote: >Good to know, but I was just being a smart-a$$. I will have to try out >WINE though, been reading about it lately.. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of RW >Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 10:21 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /bin > >On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:15:12 -0500 >"Gary Gatten" wrote: > >> I like M$ "Notepad" - is there a version of that for FBSD? > >Actually, there is. Wine implements it's own version of notepad. Because it implements its own version of the multiline edit control, Notepad is just a thin wrapper around that, providing a main window to house the control and a menu to drive it. Wordpad is to the rich text control as Notepad is to the edit control. Probably (meaning I don't know it for a fact) they were both originally written as testbeds/demos for the controls, which are used throughout Windows. Kinda like the relationship between vi and curses, really -- except that vi was written first and then curses was abstracted from it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 16:19:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34F710656C7 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s14.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s14.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D008FC1D for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU0-SMTP78 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s14.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:19:24 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.23.177.172] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.23.177.172]) by BLU0-SMTP78.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:19:23 -0700 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@hotmail.com) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 21F7E228FD for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@hotmail.com) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D2892228D7 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:19:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:19:21 -0400 From: Carmel NY To: FreeBSD Questions Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.2; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2009 16:19:23.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[5D659270:01C9F8D5] Subject: Firefox: Video but no audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:19:25 -0000 FreeBSD-7.2 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009062122 Firefox/3.0.11 I am having a problem getting Firefox to play audio. For instance, on Youtube, it will display the video portion fine; however, there is no audio present. Also, when I visit sites that have background music, it does not work with Firefox either. In fact, that is how it responds to every site I have tried it on. Is there a plug-in that I have not installed? -- Carmel carmel@hotmail.com A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 17:03:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBD61065672 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2706C8FC17 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so745307qwd.7 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:03:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JOFmshhASbRx0YyaX0E68D+CNI3Pay0s6OwvfPj2z8Q=; b=WZ7hMpEDnp8wDwT6Tg/C52ghN2QJ4EnUiRcmEnuOc8yc6tAvrRIZRlhT9wk0aoWYAW jv6j2WVDeQOiqavNImbeVBayAXXTIUmLIJbKoSlPQqAi0O/8pDlCyY/RAK2kVZrj1W/M NVoOKvWWOuHYTD1DSYMQHQRdD8NLClj/U8gqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=gCwfLWaR2kXvr3vJxJsEJlV/hRvRpO6zrYZERY3ONgeUGbjuUEbkIEnerQ2z2M19MK qdrSiR7aFc8z/q+c7SW18kYqnoEfKvEVcbWr84xC+okwipIHq9yxxR9/lKhSrqIAxCVQ D90+I3F6ma15G+HSgIMLL+ACZR54Q+VQ50ZoU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.11.136 with SMTP id t8mr614346ibt.50.1246293054560; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:30:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:30:54 -0400 Message-ID: <3d5d3ca90906290930n78325bd5wdf2b5a9dc144f430@mail.gmail.com> From: Robert Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DHCP using ral X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:03:41 -0000 I'm trying to set up a connection between an FBSD box and a wireless access point. The background is that there's no security on this network; as the person who set it up says, "You just start your computer and it works!" I have an XP box with a wireless NIC working, but I don't want to use the XP box as the gateway for my personal lan to an insecure network. On the XP box, if I point a browser to 192.168.1.1, I'm told that the router is "WRT54GX2", which I take to be a popular Linksys router. I don't have physical access to the router and I don't have the password for the router. I've got a wireless Linksys NIC that uses the ral driver facing the wireless router. The NIC facing my lan uses the em driver and is working fine. "uname -a" says FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0. In rc.conf I have ifconfig_ral0="DHCP" After booting, if I ping 192.168.1.1, I get "no route to host" and I have no lease file in /var/db. "ifconfig ral0" tells me that I have no inet address associated with ral0, status is "no carrier", and the ssid is an empty string. "dhclient ral0" sends a series of DHCPDISCOVER messages, but I get no DHCPOFFER messages, and I get an empty lease file. If I run "ifconfig ral0" again, inet is 0.0.0.0, status is "associated", and ssid is the proper ssid for the wireless router. "ifconfig ral0 list scan" gives the proper information for the router. At some point I did get a proper lease. I don't know when or how. I've never had a usable connection to the router from the FBSD box, and I've never had access to the nameservers listed in the lease. If I rename the old lease file to dhcp.leases.ral0, and then run "dhclient ral0", I send 3 DHCPREQUEST messages, 2 DHCPDISCOVER messages, 2 DHCPREQUEST messages, and 6 DHCPDISCOVER messages. dhclient tells me that no DHCPOFFERs were received, and it binds to the address in lease file, 192.168.1.104. However, "ifconfig ral0" shows no inet address. I still can't ping the router. "ifconfig ral0 inet 192.168.1.104 netmask 255.255.255.0" assigns the specified values. Ping no longer tells me that there's no route to the host, but I'm getting about 95% packet loss. "netstat -r" now shows that link1 (ral0) is the gateway to 192.168.1.0. I still don't have a usable connection. resolv.conf says "nameserver 192.168.0.1", which is the nameserver for my personal lan. I can't nslookup URLs outside of my lan. If I manually add the nameservers in the dhcp lease, I can nslookup www.google.com. But ping has 100% packet loss. /etc/hosts associates 127.0.0.1 with localhost.krig.net, and 192.168.0.6 with stamfordbru.krig.net, which is correct for my lan. I'm stumped. :) I don't know if this is related; the XP box is telling me that the router has no connection to the internet, but it obviously does have a connection because the XP box can load web pages and I can use my gmail account. Thanks for any help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 17:18:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D919B1065670 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEDC8FC08 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so3759268ewy.43 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:18:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6xH3qeCYeCeYqiDP/Z84aKQXi5hWz+KQ3pTAXh4rMl0=; b=Tj4H1bd57dyntO3TkKTxpolfk4LbVj+ZekqapyU31X+rz5POcZRbjWhJu+I/8iPfWO Fz98oy2EKponD61lgq+vXEOvJ+cZtsb54Qn1zJIHq9beuift2VNxnyKqtpDnPpARMtVk 398GE6H3xPx0GiajEAh4gYurRij27iPMmehdo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=b94mS+D3q0pf+M3xyFR6n81vIIo3seTh8fTAjgTeDg0PyFEyDQJSpv4sQGBWoWFltR 1G+Ezi7n8i54Aplsbxra4CIMgRYA0JK1Ca+T5edkSLrJ57fSOJB2NuGVqNgOIjqsJcJn LErXBBoHQmu0ZZhNlPQSlA6i1qDyp2J87m+qA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.28.85 with SMTP id f63mr2098726wea.142.1246295892874; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:18:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0016364ed6500e4eaf046d7df1d9@google.com> References: <0016364ed6500e4eaf046d7df1d9@google.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:18:12 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: af300wsm@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: Re: Which latex should I install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:18:15 -0000 > I wanted to ask, but neglected to until now, did you install from the DVD or > the network? Also, did you install for FreeBSD (pre-compiled binaries), or I initially tried the network installation, but there are so many packages/files to retrieve that I quit and went for the DVD install. I recommend just downloading the DVD image; I believe it's compressed with lzma2, which means the total data transfer should be much smaller. I installed the linux (or platform-independent) version. Works perfectly for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 17:36:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7A71065673 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentb@beanfield.com) Received: from smtp2.beanfield.net (smtp2.beanfield.net [206.223.173.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04568FC21 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentb@beanfield.com) Received: from brent.local ([66.207.193.249]) by smtp2.beanfield.net (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n5THW2Ve071173; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:32:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brentb@beanfield.com) Message-ID: <4A48FB7E.8040707@beanfield.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:35:58 -0400 From: Brent Bloxam Organization: Beanfield Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Hall References: <3d5d3ca90906290930n78325bd5wdf2b5a9dc144f430@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3d5d3ca90906290930n78325bd5wdf2b5a9dc144f430@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP using ral X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:36:05 -0000 Robert Hall wrote: > "ifconfig ral0 inet 192.168.1.104 netmask 255.255.255.0" assigns the > specified values. Ping no longer tells me that there's no route to the > host, but I'm getting about 95% packet loss. "netstat -r" now shows > that link1 (ral0) is the gateway to 192.168.1.0. I still don't have a > usable connection. > Not especially helpful but I thought I'd throw this out there, Linksys routers by default define their DHCP range as 192.168.1.100 - 192.168.1.149, so pick an address outside that space if you're trying to assign statically. You can often get away with setting the IP of the router (default of 192.168.1.1 for Linksys) as your DNS, as many Linksys routers have a built in DNS proxy. Are you sure you're getting a strong enough signal from the AP? Have you had success with this WiFi card accessing other APs? Do you have access to a different WiFi card you could try? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 18:32:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA995106566C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: from mail.pchotshots.com (ns1.pchotshots.com [12.172.123.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E978FC18 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: (qmail 61624 invoked by uid 89); 29 Jun 2009 18:11:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dev2.pchotshots.com) (12.172.123.228) by mail.pchotshots.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2009 18:11:09 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20090629140002.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> X-Sender: bmettee@pchotshots.com@mail.pchotshots.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:05:29 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Brad Mettee Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: update from 7.0 to 7.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:32:11 -0000 If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this: FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 To something newer? (like 7.2 stable) Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update? Thanks Brad Mettee PC HotShots, Inc. Baltimore, MD (410) 426-7617 -> Let us bring out the *Power* of your PCs. <- -> Custom Business Software Solutions since 1991 <- visit http://www.pchotshots.com for information about our company. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 19:01:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11A8106566C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meslists@yahoo.fr) Received: from smtp124.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp124.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [77.238.184.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 494D08FC15 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meslists@yahoo.fr) Received: (qmail 51584 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2009 19:01:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=UUwL4Udv9XLVrIQfStnXGeZ8aWA0fvcpvSEak3PKsJz32Opf0GokoasWHxzfPyLuX+iBhLvHXC17qfd5zIfJNf0DD732G76vx/L9GG8Q8gX1mJO+KJm5IckOeqs25ATbzJKC182ULtPNwViHpi+PImWRyah7/DIW6jTwN7DBMFM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO suer) (meslists@151.49.232.192 with plain) by smtp124.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2009 19:01:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: vQQ_Xl6swBCl_II246m4P1b5oVD4 X-YMail-OSG: UvaOYSUVM1lvO8yaPNkKfJxTGnTVvBGwRBV5fKICSj1ruoql_eMQHcVgJJw1Yo_XGzCT49gDVxnvzNQthwcw8TasLha.IaGP3v8BB6m6uZa1dc5Mqltk2ootnchP1LM3bgkLmONahsvu2yX1BJ97lGxWKlBfGp1KWAUPFlKY3s5Anam720oSsoAhk8badW8iSRMgKqDNYUOZPOhbMCeISLDZz5MqiTk3ATbtK6FfqlO4AC82Gn_6y8vtHfFiF8YiBgSQFgp11y3rNnbQ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: dan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:57:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906292057.01583.meslists@yahoo.fr> Cc: Carmel NY Subject: Re: Firefox: Video but no audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: meslists@yahoo.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:01:51 -0000 On Monday 29 June 2009 18:19:21 Carmel NY wrote: > FreeBSD-7.2 > > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009062122 > Firefox/3.0.11 > > I am having a problem getting Firefox to play audio. For instance, on > Youtube, it will display the video portion fine; however, there is no > audio present. Also, when I visit sites that have background music, it > does not work with Firefox either. In fact, that is how it responds to > every site I have tried it on. > > Is there a plug-in that I have not installed? Do you mean that the Flash plugin outputs no sound ? Which plugin are you currently using ? Gnash or linux-flash ? d From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 19:04:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED6C1065674 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:04:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0A248FC19 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Jun 2009 18:38:08 -0000 Received: from d90-135-98-185.cust.tele2.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [90.135.98.185] by mail.gmx.net (mp057) with SMTP; 29 Jun 2009 20:38:08 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/c+acoLwXcuaPg2Go6utYDxSlIRdtKBt75g/NjjG rcxoXPE3wx8mBH Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:37:45 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Brad Mettee Message-Id: <20090629203745.ca962538.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20090629140002.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20090629140002.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Mon__29_Jun_2009_20_37_45_+0200_t/M7LMtdqnRPt_eP" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.55 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:04:50 -0000 --Signature=_Mon__29_Jun_2009_20_37_45_+0200_t/M7LMtdqnRPt_eP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:05:29 -0400 Brad Mettee wrote: > If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web pages = as=20 > needed, is there any reason to update from this: > FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24= =20 > 10:35:36 UTC=20 > 2008 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >=20 > To something newer? (like 7.2 stable) >=20 > Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update? You mean other than using a supported system with bug and security fixes? Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Mon__29_Jun_2009_20_37_45_+0200_t/M7LMtdqnRPt_eP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpJCfwACgkQ8P3NNypXNWU3nQCcC9zsECwHpa2ATxpashxJt0Ym w+QAoJwKEn5YZvzKlX7ZcPcmH1MQMtr+ =Kr4n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Mon__29_Jun_2009_20_37_45_+0200_t/M7LMtdqnRPt_eP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 19:05:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BC91065672 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:05:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from earl@eeg3.net) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EB98FC1F for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:05:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from earl@eeg3.net) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so1303334and.13 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:05:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.37.12 with SMTP id k12mr9542506ank.99.1246302323813; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:05:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20090629140002.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20090629140002.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:05:23 -0400 Message-ID: From: Earl Gay To: Brad Mettee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:05:25 -0000 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Brad Mettee wrote: > If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web pages as > needed, is there any reason to update from this: > FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 > 10:35:36 UTC 2008 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > amd64 > > To something newer? (like 7.2 stable) > > Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update? > > Thanks > > Brad Mettee > PC HotShots, Inc. > Baltimore, MD > (410) 426-7617 There's always the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" belief. If you're using ZFS, 7.2-STABLE has the latest ZFS update; comparitavely, 7.1-RELEASE has a longer time until end-of-life. You could also check out the release notes to see if any of the updates are something worth upgrading for, respective to your needs/setup. 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:16:43 -0000 --vOmOzSkFvhd7u8Ms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 02:05:29PM -0400, Brad Mettee wrote: > If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web pages = as=20 > needed, is there any reason to update from this: > FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24= =20 > 10:35:36 UTC=20 > 2008 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >=20 > To something newer? (like 7.2 stable) >=20 > Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update? =20 It depends. There are vulnerabilities in kernel and userland fixed between 7.0-RELEASE and 7.2-RELEASE-p2. See http://security.freebsd.org/advisories.html If any of these vulneratbilities affect your system you should see if there are workarounds mentioned. If not it would be best to upgrade.=20 If you subscribe tot the freebsd-announce mailing-list, you'll be warned when a vulnerability is found. You can then judge if it is wise to apply the fix. In general, I would follow the minor version branch (RELENG_7_X, 7.2-RELEASE-pX) to pick up fixes for vulnerabilities. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --vOmOzSkFvhd7u8Ms Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpJExgACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVleACdFrOA9s9rNMLWGqOYF7nI1DgW KG8AnjS2ZeNUU+zN0hVy5mi/Pd3Vo6MM =BlhS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vOmOzSkFvhd7u8Ms-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 19:21:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E97A1065670 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0315C8FC1A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 8055 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2009 19:21:01 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Jun 2009 19:21:01 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 812D150822; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:20:59 -0400 (EDT) To: Brad Mettee References: <4.3.2.7.2.20090629140002.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:20:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20090629140002.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> (Brad Mettee's message of "Mon\, 29 Jun 2009 14\:05\:29 -0400") Message-ID: <44hbxysv6s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:21:02 -0000 Brad Mettee writes: > If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web > pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this: > FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb > 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 > root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > To something newer? (like 7.2 stable) > > Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update? At *least* make sure you get the security updates... -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 19:27:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C3C106564A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:27:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: from mail.pchotshots.com (ns1.pchotshots.com [12.172.123.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C708FC1B for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:27:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: (qmail 85719 invoked by uid 89); 29 Jun 2009 19:33:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dev2.pchotshots.com) (12.172.123.228) by mail.pchotshots.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2009 19:33:33 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20090629152631.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> X-Sender: bmettee@pchotshots.com@mail.pchotshots.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:27:49 -0400 To: Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Brad Mettee In-Reply-To: <44hbxysv6s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20090629140002.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20090629140002.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:27:55 -0000 At 03:20 PM 6/29/2009, you wrote: >Brad Mettee writes: > > > If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web > > pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this: > > FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb > > 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 > > root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > > To something newer? (like 7.2 stable) > > > > Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update? > >At *least* make sure you get the security updates... > >-- >Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area Ok, looks like I have some reading to do. Thanks everyone. Brad Mettee PC HotShots, Inc. Baltimore, MD (410) 426-7617 -> Let us bring out the *Power* of your PCs. <- -> Custom Business Software Solutions since 1991 <- visit http://www.pchotshots.com for information about our company. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 19:30:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE871065670 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f186.google.com (mail-qy0-f186.google.com [209.85.221.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF8A8FC1A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:30:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: by qyk16 with SMTP id 16so4768638qyk.3 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EPHIpp/vdR824sy4frZXch/Hnq3qAkMo9CSvXsvkIhw=; b=eFOvG5udREFEHqmFX9nDw3iZ1aJj6j9MbPpgE4B72POI18i4F48xc+ZMGYLSFqigKh Czf37DRBsUsZD4slxY6p2XS9I+O2nRj5y21D+HsaqiLHzsRWNxUoJj9lnsr+IT976q98 f0K1wqAlJYNAsg+rk6Z2J5r8+aob9OI0/CAjU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GEGfRpUQ/Q7O4o6lWRKepxvw3ppdw4kKIiCCr5zZhKlPHjUYBnEGVXnrd3rlpcOdry U79PV9STngHQRzLt9ON1H/UbXfNorO1kxAML6CNPOGCqNuCGg96eim0onIhELvPYr3P3 T4pQawmU8mBMOQjunqjkIWK8mFzMfjcJrTehk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.39.65 with SMTP id f1mr741416ibe.15.1246303829033; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A48FB7E.8040707@beanfield.com> References: <3d5d3ca90906290930n78325bd5wdf2b5a9dc144f430@mail.gmail.com> <4A48FB7E.8040707@beanfield.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:30:28 -0400 Message-ID: <3d5d3ca90906291230g355c92b1l283657b521fc1247@mail.gmail.com> From: Robert Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DHCP using ral X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:30:30 -0000 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Brent Bloxam wrote: > Robert Hall wrote: >> >> "ifconfig ral0 inet 192.168.1.104 netmask 255.255.255.0" assigns the >> specified values. Ping no longer tells me that there's no route to the >> host, but I'm getting about 95% packet loss. "netstat -r" now shows >> that link1 (ral0) is the gateway to 192.168.1.0. I still don't have a >> usable connection. >> > > Not especially helpful but I thought I'd throw this out there, Linksys > routers by default define their DHCP range as 192.168.1.100 - 192.168.1.149, > so pick an address outside that space if you're trying to assign statically. Good point. I tried that, but 192.168.1.104 and 192.168.1.150 work the same. No difference that I can tell > You can often get away with setting the IP of the router (default of > 192.168.1.1 for Linksys) as your DNS, as many Linksys routers have a built > in DNS proxy. Ah. That doesn't solve the problem, but it works and it's useful. > Are you sure you're getting a strong enough signal from the AP? I think I am. The XP box is reporting a strong signal, and it's on the self below the FBSD box. Of course, the XP box is also reporting no Internet connection, and I'm using it to reply to you, so who knows. The XP box with a Belkin NIC works pretty well. The boxes are very close, so I'm guessing that signal strength is not an issue. > Have you had > success with this WiFi card accessing other APs? I have no other APs I can try it with. The only other AP within range is none of my business. > Do you have access to a > different WiFi card you could try? No. This Linksys card was the only PCI card at the local MicroCenter that was supported by FBSD 7.2. :) Thanks for your interest in my problem. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 19:44:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC2F106564A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B22F8FC19 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so337107eyd.3 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:44:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition; bh=Pnlkb2xYHTRfTATjFr1hHJv6oCapswz3NX5gPamNKuk=; b=Ifxm1nVOVb19YkwuS1G4LvdKT31oyMLMAffTuxsxobjtnqr9c09EEWLWnH54Fqbikn alDyg86Cu9Tw4vpU/znq6FJwgEXmwYlUSJOb0KzPjwAZXorYAsbsVsMk3zZBQtwKfLtJ PWRtnNQKfD1IvwwLL4ZvwVtwp2BwuX+xffOiA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition; b=Jry5NYwZLpmOyY5FNSFBMal7UJF+UObRCQkfRoRcgY3BqqghHetwWcVhVrqyEURhCr JSiDiwDsUEBlVZGW5WAsz5XM8uo5axSa+F9+xpY6xZ0azt+oQoyfGtCAOVhNOrvYz7kz /lv4lp+rgoktZBECJGD6T3psEVFCMFbT5HLYI= Received: by 10.210.115.15 with SMTP id n15mr3487441ebc.30.1246302860106; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from logik.internal.network (geeshaulage.lcdsl.co.uk [62.249.247.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm12669814ewy.0.2009.06.29.12.14.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by logik.internal.network (Postfix, from userid 11001) id C23555D59; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:14:17 +0100 From: xorquewasp@googlemail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090629191417.GA2907@logik.internal.network> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: AMD64 VM with OpenGL? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:44:25 -0000 Hello. What's the preferred virtual machine on FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE on amd64 if OpenGL support is required? Please CC me as I'm not subscribed. xw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 19:52:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEEB1065677 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B338C8FC20 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:52:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atomic.dyndns.org (athedsl-4487283.home.otenet.gr [94.71.68.123]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n5TJq9Xe012616; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:52:10 +0300 Message-ID: <4A491B69.5000902@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:52:09 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Hall References: <3d5d3ca90906290930n78325bd5wdf2b5a9dc144f430@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3d5d3ca90906290930n78325bd5wdf2b5a9dc144f430@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DHCP using ral X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:52:14 -0000 Robert Hall wrote: > I'm trying to set up a connection between an FBSD box and a wireless > access point. The background is that there's no security on this > network; as the person who set it up says, "You just start your > computer and it works!" > > I have an XP box with a wireless NIC working, but I don't want to use > the XP box as the gateway for my personal lan to an insecure network. > On the XP box, if I point a browser to 192.168.1.1, I'm told that the > router is "WRT54GX2", which I take to be a popular Linksys router. I > don't have physical access to the router and I don't have the password > for the router. > > I've got a wireless Linksys NIC that uses the ral driver facing the > wireless router. The NIC facing my lan uses the em driver and is > working fine. "uname -a" says FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0. In rc.conf I > have > ifconfig_ral0="DHCP" > After booting, if I ping 192.168.1.1, I get "no route to host" and I > have no lease file in /var/db. "ifconfig ral0" tells me that I have no > inet address associated with ral0, status is "no carrier", and the > ssid is an empty string. "dhclient ral0" sends a series of > DHCPDISCOVER messages, but I get no DHCPOFFER messages, and I get an > empty lease file. If I run "ifconfig ral0" again, inet is 0.0.0.0, > status is "associated", and ssid is the proper ssid for the wireless > router. "ifconfig ral0 list scan" gives the proper information for the > router. > > At some point I did get a proper lease. I don't know when or how. I've > never had a usable connection to the router from the FBSD box, and > I've never had access to the nameservers listed in the lease. If I > rename the old lease file to dhcp.leases.ral0, and then run "dhclient > ral0", I send 3 DHCPREQUEST messages, 2 DHCPDISCOVER messages, 2 > DHCPREQUEST messages, and 6 DHCPDISCOVER messages. dhclient tells me > that no DHCPOFFERs were received, and it binds to the address in lease > file, 192.168.1.104. However, "ifconfig ral0" shows no inet address. I > still can't ping the router. > > "ifconfig ral0 inet 192.168.1.104 netmask 255.255.255.0" assigns the > specified values. Ping no longer tells me that there's no route to the > host, but I'm getting about 95% packet loss. "netstat -r" now shows > that link1 (ral0) is the gateway to 192.168.1.0. I still don't have a > usable connection. > > resolv.conf says "nameserver 192.168.0.1", which is the nameserver for > my personal lan. I can't nslookup URLs outside of my lan. If I > manually add the nameservers in the dhcp lease, I can nslookup > www.google.com. But ping has 100% packet loss. > > /etc/hosts associates 127.0.0.1 with localhost.krig.net, and > 192.168.0.6 with stamfordbru.krig.net, which is correct for my lan. > > I'm stumped. :) > > I don't know if this is related; the XP box is telling me that the > router has no connection to the internet, but it obviously does have a > connection because the XP box can load web pages and I can use my > gmail account. > > Thanks for any help. > I happen to have a Linksys router (not the same model though) and a Linksys pci card that uses the ral driver. Never had any problems, though I am not using DHCP. Here are a few manual steps to try: First off, try setting the ssid on the command line: ifconfig ral ssid Myssid Execute ifconfig by itself, and see if you get an "associated" message. (you may have to wait a minute before you do) If you don't, chances are the following will do nothing dhclient ral0 if this does not succeed, set an IP address manually: ifconfig ral0 inet 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0 Before attempting to test the internet connection, add the router as nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf and don't forget to add the router's address as the default gateway: route add default 192.168.1.X >From my experience, the important part is to get the "associated" message after the initial ifconfig. Not much hope otherwise. As an afterthought, is the XP machine on while you are trying to connect? If they are too close they maybe interfering. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 20:09:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896141065672 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FCC8FC1B for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:09:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU0-SMTP58 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s1.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:09:25 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.23.177.172] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.23.177.172]) by BLU0-SMTP58.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:09:25 -0700 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@hotmail.com) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D08C022C7C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@hotmail.com) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 86B3522C6F for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:09:23 -0400 From: Carmel NY To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200906292057.01583.meslists@yahoo.fr> References: <200906292057.01583.meslists@yahoo.fr> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.2; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2009 20:09:25.0399 (UTC) FILETIME=[7FF1AA70:01C9F8F5] Subject: Re: Firefox: Video but no audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:09:26 -0000 On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:57:01 +0200 dan wrote: > On Monday 29 June 2009 18:19:21 Carmel NY wrote: > > FreeBSD-7.2 > > > > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.0.11) > > Gecko/2009062122 Firefox/3.0.11 > > > > I am having a problem getting Firefox to play audio. For instance, > > on Youtube, it will display the video portion fine; however, there > > is no audio present. Also, when I visit sites that have background > > music, it does not work with Firefox either. In fact, that is how > > it responds to every site I have tried it on. > > > > Is there a plug-in that I have not installed? > > Do you mean that the Flash plugin outputs no sound ? Which plugin are > you currently using ? Gnash or linux-flash ? linux-flashplugin-9.0r159 used in conjunction with firefox-3.0.11,1 The video is great; however, there is no audio. -- Carmel carmel@hotmail.com A prohibitionist is the sort of man one wouldn't care to drink with -- even if he drank. Mencken From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 20:13:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5A71065670 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-143.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-143.bluehost.com [67.222.38.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E0478FC08 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 23667 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jun 2009 20:13:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2009 20:13:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Z10xjGHeoU3iZYStvlbYKA0JXEfUjRWIr071hisvFe3YTKW1e1fjGwxbKVtsIH2RwY0peapTvfc/I9DlmV4BRmsxwnoFF1z+zpo7BDmkLV2xflxiHPU6MDxsi3j7163/; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MLNEI-0006OO-1L for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:13:30 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:07:36 -0600 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:07:36 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090629200736.GD5796@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T7mxYSe680VjQnyC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Chomium on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:13:31 -0000 --T7mxYSe680VjQnyC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 06:47:53PM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Is there an effort to build a port of chromium for FreeBSD? I recently > began using chromium on my Linux machine, and the HTML rendering speed > is quite impressive. >=20 > When it has the ability to synchronize bookmarks, I'll use it exclusively. I second this sentiment. I quite like Chrome/Chromium thus far, and would love to have it available on FreeBSD -- combining my browser of choice with my OS of choice. As things currently stand, I get to use a browser I like slightly less most of the time, and my browser of choice on an OS I quite dislike on the rare occasion I need to do cross-platform Web development testing. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Alan Perlis: "LISP programmers know the value of everything and the cost of nothing." --T7mxYSe680VjQnyC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpJHwgACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUtaACcCNc0SZkNdL/tQ8XCEBAcmPFR 0wMAnR+ic0LyyhUtlb0TlqKra76ZA4QY =PEs3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T7mxYSe680VjQnyC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 20:25:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D14C1065701 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:25:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meslists@yahoo.fr) Received: from smtp111.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp111.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [77.238.184.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F13068FC12 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meslists@yahoo.fr) Received: (qmail 19902 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2009 20:24:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=z7vPXSt2X62C5Je0VJFZJ8KIijcelSkxI9r+esgucYd/Xdr9TQdBWjXsTSFFB1TYY2aui2/Bf15lZXRTBS0mHScaEDSePzngOt4Mfnke3ldVQMOApnkwwtbm0VWPutoSTADgWHjkdCJhqAYciu9l0lnKTAYy5izJsiP6gTBaB64= ; Received: from unknown (HELO suer) (meslists@151.49.232.192 with plain) by smtp111.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2009 20:24:58 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: vQQ_Xl6swBCl_II246m4P1b5oVD4 X-YMail-OSG: aWvGih8VM1kW39_p9FvAeJz6N20JdD59DxHBRHrS0v1xfr2PbdVD6yYp3MkuGWArwLPRT3c1fWJgxCn5LRNZGPtQ7dUJNmMt1OgauSMCEDUtA0KoZB0S2Y02Dv9M2dGBxCBkvNrsdK.W9Jak0kuuBlz4n24Hl.8xG5mfOy_uH6bhOZkz4ybjkv7UJvDBhLPXyCAfA7dhD6eHmQob0FjAlnAdv44sz3SR9OfnB.nZf1r1nNZZBd_pD2GWWHE.e0GU03c5g_t15wQqyNQB8Gt35Vp_9bDn40l1lK2ldtz1Rpbq296p X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: dan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:24:13 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200906292057.01583.meslists@yahoo.fr> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906292224.14063.meslists@yahoo.fr> Cc: Carmel NY Subject: Re: Firefox: Video but no audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: meslists@yahoo.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:25:00 -0000 On Monday 29 June 2009 22:09:23 Carmel NY wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:57:01 +0200 > > dan wrote: > > On Monday 29 June 2009 18:19:21 Carmel NY wrote: > > > FreeBSD-7.2 > > > > > > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.0.11) > > > Gecko/2009062122 Firefox/3.0.11 > > > > > > I am having a problem getting Firefox to play audio. For instance, > > > on Youtube, it will display the video portion fine; however, there > > > is no audio present. Also, when I visit sites that have background > > > music, it does not work with Firefox either. In fact, that is how > > > it responds to every site I have tried it on. > > > > > > Is there a plug-in that I have not installed? > > > > Do you mean that the Flash plugin outputs no sound ? Which plugin are > > you currently using ? Gnash or linux-flash ? > > linux-flashplugin-9.0r159 used in conjunction with firefox-3.0.11,1 > > The video is great; however, there is no audio. Hmmm... I am afraid I can't really help. Does the plugin tells any warning message ? If not I doubt there is any missing plugin... Anyways try first to check the audio levels, making sure the relevant are __not__ "zero" (i.e. PCM and so on). Then try to "understand" if any error message is thrown on the console somewhere d From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 20:58:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509571065674 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:58:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meslists@yahoo.fr) Received: from smtp134.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp134.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [77.238.184.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9CFD8FC1E for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:58:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meslists@yahoo.fr) Received: (qmail 5969 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2009 20:58:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=kcpIowEvULRSAZ9wbxBplLXLmtiBgN4vnhffftt7lYy/cH/zCXXfjRfW2DVFPMvWETK4ZFH41xfwjkLZOJpfIXjaLy8NVOT1YE5gdq2elwbWHuQJfF2U15tAbtf/gF1OuSBilzb8TXzghlxsxK/+BYPBaw8jsW+HiSuW7/19gbY= ; Received: from unknown (HELO suer) (meslists@151.49.232.192 with plain) by smtp134.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2009 20:58:24 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: vQQ_Xl6swBCl_II246m4P1b5oVD4 X-YMail-OSG: ArXlT28VM1k9yQpCATZ_zWOMKjQf2I7cOZjH_7TBe3gXuobderBhTm8v.4DDMpVX4ciu4C_FkKrS8_V2VTHJbO1UvLVb_Vgpks15wykQVv21IFMRY7_K9EZGLIS4.2HHKv1mYB3LaTaW827VBqCfMVIh8gqhSH_pnxzxhu9PUpxWiQ1vBtGSYZi2uvPwCIFU_RSvua9_mmEtMIUlSOAQ.Kub2DKzj81m_wBtK8Ngc3mXcqOJaygdVp4IECAKL._ZTigfGvKUUUENKVH_ijMBG51plsh4XzCNONgwNJeV2STWHGQC9eQ- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: dan To: mfv Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:57:39 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200906212038.39370.meslists@yahoo.fr> <20090622214802.0761813e@gumby.homeunix.com> <200906241119.09827.mrkvrg@acm.org> In-Reply-To: <200906241119.09827.mrkvrg@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906292257.39730.meslists@yahoo.fr> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrading installed ports: time to do it ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: meslists@yahoo.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:58:26 -0000 On Wednesday 24 June 2009 17:19:09 you wrote: > On Monday, 22 June 2009 16:48:02 RW wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:58:41 +0100 > > > > Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > > I'll probably get flamed for this but since I've been using > > > ports-mgmt/portmanager I've almost forgotten > > > about /usr/ports/UPDATING and all that pkgdb -Fu stuff or whatever it > > > was. I've upgraded ports just by doing 'portmanager -u' over one or > > > two quite major changes and not had any problems that haven't been > > > down to an individual ports. > > > > You still need to read UPDATING, portmanager handles some of the > > issues automatically, but not all. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Hello, > > Here is a perl hack I use to automatically read and parse UPDATING as part > of my daily upgrade routine. It is part of a larger set of five scripts > which use: > 1. "csup" to update ports > 2. "make index" to update the /usr/ports/INDEX > 3. "pkg_version" to identify the ports that need upgrading > 4. "portfetch" to download the tarballs > 5. a script to display the relevant contents, if any, of UPDATING using > the hack shown below and the contents identified in step 3 above. > > These five scripts are combined in a master script (csup-all) which I > invoke the first thing in the morning. After doing some other morning > chores I then run "portconfig -a -v" to set up any configuration settings > prior to running "portmaster -a -u". Everything is automatic except for > the configuration. > > Here is the perl hack. It can be improved by comparing the ports that need > to be updated (step 3) with the ports specified within UPDATING (step 5). > The embedded ansi codes will work with the default FreeBSD console > settings, otherwise they can be removed. > > #!/usr/bin/perl > # > # file: csup-update.pl > # > # created: 2006-07-16 > # > # purpose: To review update notes in /usr/ports/UPDATING > # This program will only display those notes issued > # since last csup > # > # algorithm: Each line of the file /usr/ports/UPDATING is scanned and if > # it finds a date in the form ^yyyymmdd$ the date is assigned > # to the variable $date. Otherwise all non-date lines are printed > # to STDOUT. As soon as this program finds a date older than the > # last update this program quits and prints an appropriate closing > # message. > # > unless ( open ( MYFILE, "/usr/ports/UPDATING" ) ) { > die ("Cannot open input file /usr/ports/UPDATING.\n") ; > } > > unless ( open ( LASTUPDATE, "/root/bin/csup-lastupdate.txt" ) ) { > die ("Cannot open file csup-lastupdate.txt.\n") ; > } > > $eof = '' ; > $date = $lastupdate = ; > $line = ; > $count = 0 ; > > while ( $line ne $eof ) { > if ( $line =~ /^2\d{7}/ ) { > $date = $line ; > $date =~ tr/://d ; > $count++ ; > } > > if ( ( $date - $lastupdate ) >= 0 ) { > if ( $line =~ /^2\d{7}/ ) { > print ("^[[32m$line^[[0m") ; > } else { > print ("^[[0m$line") ; > } > $line = ; > $date = $lastupdate ; > } else { > $count-- ; > if ( $count == 0 ) { > print ( "^[[36mThere are no updates to review. ") ; > } elsif ( $count == 1 ) { > print ( "^[[36mThere is only one update to review. ") ; > } else { > print ( "^[[36mThere are $count updates to review. ") ; > } > chop ( $lastupdate ) ; > print ( "The last run of csup was on $lastupdate.^[[0m\n\n" ) ; > > exit ; > } > } > # EoF > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello mfv ! Thanks for sharing your perl hack and your experience :-) I do not know anything about PERL, but I am starting taking a look at this ! THanks dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 21:09:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3735B1065672 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8698FC1B for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so3945050ewy.43 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:09:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xwjmUTW1vM4RgbbknKg5CGuoJuDZo5OLNPLOnWNc4s4=; b=DRvw2b14kc4GxAXvn4QItMwlqjAeEqLkPwKKDyUSLBmckCUA3DcZ/NrQ7SHCGmD61j 52N8S9/acqqhYLZX5aFKjkyITe180M3RMKmMeVv91jiKs5pjux/vhTxdJexFf0TNs1AT BmSv73lJOqIys1UVEUZWz1/t1vDWd/Wyd+HXE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=q0GhVt0bTmQavJcm1lrqUcug8COrUskqnBpUTrMpnnTTC456f+1ajHsFQ5wtAwZg8x mdXXNMJxXpxvUy+TB3JJXHrGrNc4C9dL5feKwCft+yaUvLJgspq7+9RzowSh45WRktIi ezXmHm8/9ULcXb2y9jGWdb1fQUfIQKGEDX1MM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.45.207 with SMTP id p57mr2213306web.94.1246309797586; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:09:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Novell Groupwise on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:09:59 -0000 Has anyone been able to use the Novell Groupwise email/calendaring system on FreeBSD? If so, please explain how you accomplished this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 21:27:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E25F1065687 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299CF8FC1B for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540B17E837 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:27:13 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:27:12 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <6ae50c2d0906281009n24381ad3j59125e237739ca2c@mail.gmail.com> <200906281414.16019.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <6ae50c2d0906281518m422783f0lf57014459bc11b5f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0906281518m422783f0lf57014459bc11b5f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906291327.12434.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: libtool shared X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:27:14 -0000 On Sunday 28 June 2009 14:18:54 alexus wrote: > ltconfig:432: gcc -E conftest.c > ltconfig:547: checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works > ltconfig:548: gcc -c -fPIC -DPIC conftest.c 1>&5 > ltconfig:591: checking if gcc static flag -static works > ltconfig:592: gcc -o conftest -static conftest.c 1>&5 > ltconfig:624: checking for ld used by GCC > GNU ld version 2.15 [FreeBSD] 2004-05-23 > ltconfig:971: checking if global_symbol_pipe works > ltconfig:972: gcc -c conftest.c 1>&5 > ltconfig:975: eval "/usr/bin/nm -B conftest.o | sed -n -e 's/^.* > [ABCDGISTUW] \([_A-Za-z][_A-Za-z0-9]*\)$/\1 \1/p' > conftest.nm" > ltconfig:1033: gcc -o conftest -fno-builtin conftest.c conftestm.o 1>&5 It stops here? It should give a reason and configure should continue eventually. Or did you CTRL-C the process and output didn't end up in the file yet? Let the entire configure run through, then inspect config.log where configure eventually says it's unable to build shared libraries. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 21:34:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193F81065673 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A688FC0C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:34:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5TLY8ef097462; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:34:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 602B2BA7E; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:34:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:34:08 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: xorquewasp@googlemail.com Message-ID: <20090629213408.GA9127@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090629191417.GA2907@logik.internal.network> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090629191417.GA2907@logik.internal.network> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 VM with OpenGL? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:34:11 -0000 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 08:14:17PM +0100, xorquewasp@googlemail.com wrote: > Hello. >=20 > What's the preferred virtual machine on FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE on amd64 if > OpenGL support is required? Depends on what your definitions of a virtual machine and OpenGl support are. :-) All CPU level virtual machines (like bochs, qemu, virtualbox) can run emulated OpenGL in their guest operating systems. If you are asking if there is a virtual machine that passes OpenGL calls directly to the hosts' OpenGL system, the only things that come to mind are: - FreeBSD jails - the Wine MS Windows emulator. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpJM1AACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVS/wCfRV/05SQL83oiONFELpV7yRNS s+IAn32FIEleOZsYJVkKQw98KwbXvjK3 =d6He -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 21:59:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAFB9106564A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D618FC0A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:59:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so3982645ewy.43 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:59:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=XD9hsZTbdHaPOELS5slJQBr5siokueEKwq6U1KMu7FM=; b=OHpiGLPfOCxHBrTpg3e/PTjm5taswnYSDilfzcdNuDOSwgwnIVt5cQMCYAoqsCGvXd Rrwt2cjZXadzfiL7r8Cdm9dBxjjzMvPcS0BmMpYOXQVL0XUt8s9UuWClwc0nmOzxxa6Y XIjfCHlkV1imDaNNJLrvX2eBhTcthQKwCH4iA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; b=aYRBDjHRg9CRdIn/aS24Ny1sPEFJ3BGl29DujtBpKpf6P+BTKL4dNvTL0JTpuIzfsi JOsOc3SlDa7SuYn5cs/Ea4xPM0HxUB8mC/SqvPiNt8MD9PpexxtgR4xWhHPi2gdxr8lq GKU3xi/ztz6UO8UMf9tX02b0IFV4RxAlsEF08= Received: by 10.210.89.7 with SMTP id m7mr208557ebb.14.1246312746270; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from logik.internal.network (geeshaulage.lcdsl.co.uk [62.249.247.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm12321195ewy.15.2009.06.29.14.59.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by logik.internal.network (Postfix, from userid 11001) id A8DE35D59; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:59:04 +0100 From: xorquewasp@googlemail.com To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20090629215904.GA68638@logik.internal.network> References: <20090629191417.GA2907@logik.internal.network> <20090629213408.GA9127@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090629213408.GA9127@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 VM with OpenGL? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:59:08 -0000 On 2009-06-29 23:34:08, Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 08:14:17PM +0100, xorquewasp@googlemail.com wrote: > > Hello. > > > > What's the preferred virtual machine on FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE on amd64 if > > OpenGL support is required? > > Depends on what your definitions of a virtual machine and OpenGl support > are. :-) Yeah, probably should have mentioned that! I actually meant the definition you gave: a VM with native OpenGL acceleration. I wonder if the virtualbox port to FreeBSD is likely to be able to use this at all: http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~andreslc/xen-gl/ Virtualbox + VMGL seems the most likely candidate at the moment - I'm just not sure if it's currently stable at all. xw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 22:11:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39EB1065672 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504508FC0A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:11:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so362012eyd.3 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:11:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0IkDbzAW+4x6h4aebsab6oNtDvQrWH5E7JE4S3arr3U=; b=BQXAX6KBMI4ONCcwKCgcCNBprB7EpP8Z2ukb+VhaIBw9weg9AueEjL3berqevOSFrK Yf3ELeuy+laLSB//kMZoFTdw9kOYKiQxQnIeUEmKkgnwUOd42cw1lrUnzLKH/L9Vm9wm d3pFyDs8g2IPvS2uZbn0tYYRNg8gPpGhKIwRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OvXQnD2HydsgsUIz7XoJ5rv+UqEzYVboZJQo+LhPgM0Ysphxn64rCgMsSt2eMwyCk8 yOsGm7XhNZmmD2yO4hDW7LYYTT0Dnnq8IBq/txHTHRB3+NhPFdSDSX4u/fr9dQiLEdgt Z9vh/SYxWDfRl/BFRt5McEPm4T3jSfiZBsPZw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.26.201 with SMTP id c51mr2213052wea.228.1246313497119; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:11:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200906261401.25592.kstewart@owt.com> References: <12460400390643.1842379727.fomin@pisem.net> <200906261301.54442.kstewart@owt.com> <12460479580239.49250165.fomin@pisem.net> <200906261401.25592.kstewart@owt.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:11:17 +0100 Message-ID: To: Kent Stewart Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: fomin@pisem.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: my kernel is not build/install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:11:39 -0000 2009/6/26 Kent Stewart : > > make buildkernel KERNCONF=FREEBSD1 2>&1 | > tee /var/log/build/bkernel-`date "+%Y%m%d-%H%M"`.log > > It leaves a complete log everytime I build a kernel. Your options would be > different and I also use csh. > [chris@amnesiac]~% make buildkernel KERNCONF=FREEBSD1 2>&1 |tee /var/log/build/bkernel-`date "+%Y%m%d-%H%M"`.log Ambiguous output redirect. [chris@amnesiac]~% I think you've written that into a script for /bin/sh. I've no idea how to pipe stderr in csh, but 2>&1 is NOT the way to do it! Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 00:06:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF791065672 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@apsara.com.sg) Received: from babylon.webvis.net (babylon.webvis.net [202.157.163.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B42D8FC19 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@apsara.com.sg) Received: from [10.0.1.240] ([119.73.191.194]) by apsara.com.sg ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:06:36 +0800 SGT From: Erich Dollansky Organization: apsara green technology pte ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:06:40 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4.3.2.7.2.20090629140002.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20090629140002.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906300806.41093.erich@apsara.com.sg> Cc: Brad Mettee Subject: Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:06:40 -0000 Hi, my general concept is not to stick with the releases but to keep the kernel on the current development like using RELENG_7 for CVS. You will notice that HAL and DBUS changed. I noticed because of this real speed improvements on a slower machine. Anyway, if this server runs mail and web pages, it is public available and so prone to attacks. So, make sure that you have the security updates installed. Erich On 30 June 2009 am 02:05:29 Brad Mettee wrote: > If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & > web pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this: > FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: > Sun Feb 24 10:35:36 UTC > 2008 > root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > amd64 > > To something newer? (like 7.2 stable) > > Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update? > > Thanks > > Brad Mettee > PC HotShots, Inc. > Baltimore, MD > (410) 426-7617 > > -> Let us bring out the *Power* of your PCs. <- > -> Custom Business Software Solutions since 1991 <- > > visit http://www.pchotshots.com for information about our > company. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 00:13:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF83106564A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:13:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AB38FC12 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5U0DBnb039519; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:13:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 33C6EB85F; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:13:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:13:11 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: xorquewasp@googlemail.com Message-ID: <20090630001311.GA13398@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090629191417.GA2907@logik.internal.network> <20090629213408.GA9127@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090629215904.GA68638@logik.internal.network> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090629215904.GA68638@logik.internal.network> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 VM with OpenGL? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:13:13 -0000 --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:59:04PM +0100, xorquewasp@googlemail.com wrote: > On 2009-06-29 23:34:08, Roland Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 08:14:17PM +0100, xorquewasp@googlemail.com wro= te: > > > Hello. > > >=20 > > > What's the preferred virtual machine on FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE on amd64 = if > > > OpenGL support is required? > >=20 > > Depends on what your definitions of a virtual machine and OpenGl support > > are. :-) >=20 > Yeah, probably should have mentioned that! >=20 > I actually meant the definition you gave: a VM with native OpenGL > acceleration. >=20 > I wonder if the virtualbox port to FreeBSD is likely to be able to > use this at all: >=20 > http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~andreslc/xen-gl/ The page says it does. > Virtualbox + VMGL seems the most likely candidate at the moment - =46rom the abovementioned page: "VMGL is available for X11-based guest OS's= ". > I'm just not sure if it's currently stable at all. At version 0.1.1, I wouldn't expect too much. OpenGL is just a display mechanism. If the calculations feeding the display have to be run in an emulator, this will slow your program down considerably.=20 If your program on the guest OS is already written for X11, can't you port it to FreeBSD? Or run it natively and transport the output to your FreeBSD box via X11? Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpJWJcACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVwgwCfY1GdjuHUjirV+w8OAfkPJByo gacAni0oPQl9SjHOVPTIpwypwDM9crZK =h9SI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 00:22:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A99A1065672 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f197.google.com (mail-pz0-f197.google.com [209.85.222.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7A18FC16 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by pzk35 with SMTP id 35so417506pzk.3 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:22:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=H/PPefYvyFs7M4MuH46k+VJAoqIOvzneifs74QSZL90=; b=OoA5MrqDabMtx6yLQr2GLDaYZaZp9sQeKGfK8TyrztnzxDeh+IG3e47hk1mdbqNgV5 qs3Mqt7nSuZb4E9QTAjjohjCWPAeS9tWKGnnOrq1sgH+aFbBaQs92udjuR/dbP6Rr7ho EVpoZBIRIlrGMxCqO7gaUPmjjDqFv7nWXmSvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xLGhpRYYUC0PV4aWC4Ckg4LkWsFocwQTvCulVviqJMAPqGTBsmS9FfY8Re4b7U3/h4 NJsE6M5HHeCpEeu2tAYBLDpPkvr9vB/ZPbCGpDaEJ9ADGWTXvReD7qcktVOWSodFbjxm h4IoEQQoomTSkZZ1NXb1JjjXIfc8lgjgdbSsU= Received: by 10.143.1.12 with SMTP id d12mr302473wfi.55.1246321329099; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ([122.162.53.104]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm12992312wfg.7.2009.06.29.17.22.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A495AAB.3000403@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:52:03 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: carmel_ny@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Firefox: Video but no audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:22:09 -0000 Hi Carmel, Do you have problems with sound only on Firefox ? If your problem is that you can't get sound with any application, then please see the output of 'cat /dev/sndstat'. If you get nothing, then you probably don't have an appropriate sound driver loaded. If you have an Intel-based board, try putting snd_ich_load="YES" and snd_hda_load="YES" into your /boot/loader.conf If your problem is Firefox-specific, then try editing Tools->Options. On the Applications tab, see whether you have an entry for MP3 Format Sounds and that it set to something reasonable. -- Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-96500-10329 Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 00:41:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFE5106567D for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:41:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C93D8FC17 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Jun 2009 20:41:29 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.6-GA) with ESMTP id KYU53036; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:41:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 29 Jun 2009 20:41:29 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19017.24376.343126.389436@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:41:28 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: OT: C syntax question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:41:30 -0000 Let us suppose I have a structure: struct CONTINENT { ... } I use this to create an array of pointers to said struct: struct CONTINENT *Asia[10][10]; Now I pass this array to a function: plate_shift(Asia, (int) foo, (float) bar); In the definition of the function, I say: int plate_shift(Cont,f,b) struct CONTINENT *Cont[10][10]; int f; float b; { ... } and the compiler does not complain. If, however, I try to prototype the function as: extern int plate_shift(struct CONTINENT *[][],int,float); with: CFLAGS = -Wall -std=c99 I get: error: array type has incomplete element type Changing to: extern int plate_shift(struct CONTINENT *foo[][],int,float); returns the same error. K&R 2ed is not helpful, nor is a quick poke around the web. What am I forgetting? Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 00:41:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF43106566C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:41:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vilem.kebrt@gmail.com) Received: from gibbon.netair.cz (gibbon.netair.cz [79.98.156.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDABC8FC12 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vilem.kebrt@gmail.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gibbon.netair.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5BDC3884 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:21:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at netair.cz Received: from gibbon.netair.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gibbon.netair.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bORcsCMBapmu for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:21:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.236] (pppoe-user-159-001.pnet.netair.net [79.98.159.1]) by gibbon.netair.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6CA74C3898 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:21:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A495AF4.1010406@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:23:16 +0200 From: Vilem Kebrt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3d5d3ca90906290930n78325bd5wdf2b5a9dc144f430@mail.gmail.com> <4A491B69.5000902@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <4A491B69.5000902@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DHCP using ral X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:41:58 -0000 Manolis Kiagias napsal(a): > Robert Hall wrote: > >> I'm trying to set up a connection between an FBSD box and a wireless >> access point. The background is that there's no security on this >> network; as the person who set it up says, "You just start your >> computer and it works!" >> >> I have an XP box with a wireless NIC working, but I don't want to use >> the XP box as the gateway for my personal lan to an insecure network. >> On the XP box, if I point a browser to 192.168.1.1, I'm told that the >> router is "WRT54GX2", which I take to be a popular Linksys router. I >> don't have physical access to the router and I don't have the password >> for the router. >> >> I've got a wireless Linksys NIC that uses the ral driver facing the >> wireless router. The NIC facing my lan uses the em driver and is >> working fine. "uname -a" says FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0. In rc.conf I >> have >> ifconfig_ral0="DHCP" >> After booting, if I ping 192.168.1.1, I get "no route to host" and I >> have no lease file in /var/db. "ifconfig ral0" tells me that I have no >> inet address associated with ral0, status is "no carrier", and the >> ssid is an empty string. "dhclient ral0" sends a series of >> DHCPDISCOVER messages, but I get no DHCPOFFER messages, and I get an >> empty lease file. If I run "ifconfig ral0" again, inet is 0.0.0.0, >> status is "associated", and ssid is the proper ssid for the wireless >> router. "ifconfig ral0 list scan" gives the proper information for the >> router. >> >> At some point I did get a proper lease. I don't know when or how. I've >> never had a usable connection to the router from the FBSD box, and >> I've never had access to the nameservers listed in the lease. If I >> rename the old lease file to dhcp.leases.ral0, and then run "dhclient >> ral0", I send 3 DHCPREQUEST messages, 2 DHCPDISCOVER messages, 2 >> DHCPREQUEST messages, and 6 DHCPDISCOVER messages. dhclient tells me >> that no DHCPOFFERs were received, and it binds to the address in lease >> file, 192.168.1.104. However, "ifconfig ral0" shows no inet address. I >> still can't ping the router. >> >> "ifconfig ral0 inet 192.168.1.104 netmask 255.255.255.0" assigns the >> specified values. Ping no longer tells me that there's no route to the >> host, but I'm getting about 95% packet loss. "netstat -r" now shows >> that link1 (ral0) is the gateway to 192.168.1.0. I still don't have a >> usable connection. >> >> resolv.conf says "nameserver 192.168.0.1", which is the nameserver for >> my personal lan. I can't nslookup URLs outside of my lan. If I >> manually add the nameservers in the dhcp lease, I can nslookup >> www.google.com. But ping has 100% packet loss. >> >> /etc/hosts associates 127.0.0.1 with localhost.krig.net, and >> 192.168.0.6 with stamfordbru.krig.net, which is correct for my lan. >> >> I'm stumped. :) >> >> I don't know if this is related; the XP box is telling me that the >> router has no connection to the internet, but it obviously does have a >> connection because the XP box can load web pages and I can use my >> gmail account. >> >> Thanks for any help. >> >> > I happen to have a Linksys router (not the same model though) and a > Linksys pci card that uses the ral driver. Never had any problems, > though I am not using DHCP. > Here are a few manual steps to try: > > First off, try setting the ssid on the command line: > > ifconfig ral ssid Myssid > > Some wireless interfaces need to be gone UP by hand so set ssid by previous command and then execute ifconfig ral0 up william > Execute ifconfig by itself, and see if you get an "associated" message. > (you may have to wait a minute before you do) If you don't, chances are > the following will do nothing > > dhclient ral0 > > if this does not succeed, set an IP address manually: > > ifconfig ral0 inet 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0 > > Before attempting to test the internet connection, add the router as > nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf and don't forget to add the router's > address as the default gateway: > > route add default 192.168.1.X > > >From my experience, the important part is to get the "associated" > message after the initial ifconfig. Not much hope otherwise. > > As an afterthought, is the XP machine on while you are trying to > connect? If they are too close they maybe interfering. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 00:57:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F86B106564A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF59C8FC13 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan.naumov@gmail.com) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so4460058yxe.3 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:57:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=G/2CBL1BEnxuRHoBxJbhd0yA7QJ4CFquaJ0tcSzHSIg=; b=R+xB4X24ceNCHia0oqTRL3C0fJpoeJK3xe7AwRUSdmkwAQ7uXkq5sOlxhrAgmdzxUk K1H424Y0ljJbYiSv+Oy657zka/ob8rGukyglJOMvchVkR9NqFCroKGsQ8gYz860Yuhii 2I6eYBcl/u5sAHQ8kBTWGmGvads8+pY4VlVGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Nex7ktnZlaUerIAmsZVJy47KGHjfYxHbR+Xj2iQJ4/j1+ylWtYrVWOpsxfSRe9djTq u+eljeO1fNjuxXYXGMQfFBZ/1HXH+ZIifhg8eXIBTR75nlSKK0SuuRat3JAq5e7h+ple HocmAjmpnA5Tj58f/hfd+dfrZ7NiHiGbGIokA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.141.2 with SMTP id o2mr10116988and.151.1246323443146; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:57:23 +0300 Message-ID: From: Dan Naumov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: configuring and ssh tunneling xorg from a headless FreeBSD machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:57:24 -0000 Hello list. I have the following setup: a Windows Vista x64 SP1 machine (my primary desktop) and a FreeBSD 7.2/amd64 running on a home NAS system that's relatively powerful (Intel Atom 330 dualcore, 2gb ram). I would like to be able to run xorg and a simple desktop on the headless FreeBSD NAS and be able to interact with it from my Vista machine. What are the steps I need to take for this? Obviously I need to build xorg and some sort of a wm (probably gnome2-lite) on the FreeBSD machine and install an xserver on the Vista machine, but then what? Any pointers to guides and such are welcome. Please keep me CCed as I am not subscribed. - Sincerely, Dan Naumov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 01:18:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B6E106564A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: from mail.pchotshots.com (ns1.pchotshots.com [12.172.123.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110748FC12 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:18:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: (qmail 61847 invoked by uid 89); 30 Jun 2009 00:57:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dev2.pchotshots.com) (12.172.123.228) by mail.pchotshots.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 2009 00:57:18 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20090629204828.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> X-Sender: bmettee@pchotshots.com@mail.pchotshots.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:51:37 -0400 To: Robert Huff ,questions@freebsd.org From: Brad Mettee In-Reply-To: <19017.24376.343126.389436@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: OT: C syntax question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:18:19 -0000 At 08:41 PM 6/29/2009, Robert Huff wrote: > Let us suppose I have a structure: > >struct CONTINENT { > ... >} > > I use this to create an array of pointers to said struct: > >struct CONTINENT *Asia[10][10]; > > Now I pass this array to a function: > > plate_shift(Asia, (int) foo, (float) bar); > > In the definition of the function, I say: > >int plate_shift(Cont,f,b) > struct CONTINENT *Cont[10][10]; > int f; > float b; >{ > ... >} > > and the compiler does not complain. If, however, I try to >prototype the function as: > > extern int plate_shift(struct CONTINENT *[][],int,float); > > with: > >CFLAGS = -Wall -std=c99 > > I get: > >error: array type has incomplete element type > > Changing to: > > extern int plate_shift(struct CONTINENT *foo[][],int,float); > > returns the same error. > K&R 2ed is not helpful, nor is a quick poke around the web. > What am I forgetting? > > Respectfully, > > > Robert Huff I believe since you are declaring the array as having a fixed number of elements, you must declare the function to take it the same way, like this: extern int plate_shift(struct CONTINENT *[10][10],int,float); Without the 10,10 size definition, the plate_shift function would have no idea how big the array of pointers actually is. Brad Mettee PC HotShots, Inc. Baltimore, MD (410) 426-7617 -> Let us bring out the *Power* of your PCs. <- -> Custom Business Software Solutions since 1991 <- visit http://www.pchotshots.com for information about our company. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 01:53:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66901106566C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout011.mac.com (asmtpout011.mac.com [17.148.16.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A788FC0A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp011.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KM100FEK14PB450@asmtp011.mac.com> for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Robert Huff In-reply-to: <19017.24376.343126.389436@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:53:13 -0700 References: <19017.24376.343126.389436@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: C syntax question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:53:53 -0000 Hi-- On Jun 29, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > and the compiler does not complain. If, however, I try to > prototype the function as: > > extern int plate_shift(struct CONTINENT *[][],int,float); > > with: > > CFLAGS = -Wall -std=c99 > > I get: > > error: array type has incomplete element type You need to provide the size for all but the first element; see K&Rv2 section 5.9 (p 113), or something like: http://home.netcom.com/~tjensen/ptr/ch7x.htm Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 02:12:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5A7106566C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:12:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4798FC0C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:12:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.90]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9nnc1c0051wpRvQ572CEvo; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:12:14 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id A2D21c00Z1f6R9u3e2D3uG; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:13:04 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:12:11 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:12:10 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090630021210.GA72216@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <19017.24376.343126.389436@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20090629204828.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20090629204828.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: OT: C syntax question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:12:14 -0000 On Mon 29 Jun 2009 at 17:51:37 PDT Brad Mettee wrote: > >I believe since you are declaring the array as having a fixed number >of elements, you must declare the function to take it the same way, >like this: > > extern int plate_shift(struct CONTINENT *[10][10],int,float); > >Without the 10,10 size definition, the plate_shift function would have >no idea how big the array of pointers actually is. Close. If you pass a two-dimensional array as an argument, you must specify at least the number of elements in the "minor" dimension, so the compiler will know how to compute, for example, the offset of array[3][0] versus array[6][0]. So this works: extern int plate_shift(struct CONTINENT *[][10], int, float); But the following doesn't work, because it doesn't tell the compiler how to compute the offsets: extern int plate_shift(struct CONTINENT *[10][], int, float); Of course, it doesn't hurt to specify the number of elements in both dimensions. But it would be a less general solution, With only the minor dimension specified, plate_shift can take pointers to arrays of 20, 30, 40, 100 or 200 CONTINENT structures. Any multiple of 10 will do. (But then you need to tell plate_shift when it's reached the last set of pointers, or it might run off the end of the array. The usual way to handle this is to use all NULLs in the last row, as a kind of "sentinel".) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 02:20:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE74106566C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7248FC17 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id A1ca1c0010xGWP8562L83v; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:20:08 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id A2L61c00A1f6R9u3Y2L6Pi; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:20:08 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:20:04 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:20:04 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090630022004.GB72216@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <19017.24376.343126.389436@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20090629204828.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> <20090630021210.GA72216@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090630021210.GA72216@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: OT: C syntax question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:20:08 -0000 On Mon 29 Jun 2009 at 19:12:10 PDT Charlie Kester wrote: > >Of course, it doesn't hurt to specify the number of elements in >both dimensions. But it would be a less general solution, With >only the minor dimension specified, plate_shift can take pointers >to arrays of 20, 30, 40, 100 or 200 CONTINENT structures. Any Oops. That's not worded correctly. It should be: ... plate_shift can take a pointer to a multidimensional array of 20,30,40, 100 or 200 CONTINENT structures. (Don't you hate it when your mistakes come back to haunt you in your inbox?) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 02:40:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298351065679 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2438FC18 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id A0vK1c0030FhH24A62g4Kh; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:40:04 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id A2g21c00Q1f6R9u8U2g3CS; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:40:04 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:40:01 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:40:01 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090630024001.GC72216@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <19017.24376.343126.389436@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20090629204828.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> <20090630021210.GA72216@comcast.net> <20090630022004.GB72216@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090630022004.GB72216@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: OT: C syntax question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:40:04 -0000 On Mon 29 Jun 2009 at 19:20:04 PDT Charlie Kester wrote: >On Mon 29 Jun 2009 at 19:12:10 PDT Charlie Kester wrote: >> >>Of course, it doesn't hurt to specify the number of elements in >>both dimensions. But it would be a less general solution, With >>only the minor dimension specified, plate_shift can take pointers >>to arrays of 20, 30, 40, 100 or 200 CONTINENT structures. Any > >Oops. That's not worded correctly. It should be: > >... plate_shift can take a pointer to a multidimensional array of >20,30,40, 100 or 200 CONTINENT structures. > >(Don't you hate it when your mistakes come back to haunt you in your >inbox?) I should have quit while I was ahead. If this was a programming interview, I just flunked it. :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 02:48:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C891065670 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:48:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@apsara.com.sg) Received: from babylon.webvis.net (babylon.webvis.net [202.157.163.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6288FC17 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@apsara.com.sg) Received: from [10.0.1.240] ([119.73.191.194]) by apsara.com.sg ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:48:18 +0800 SGT From: Erich Dollansky Organization: apsara green technology pte ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:48:04 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <19017.24376.343126.389436@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20090630022004.GB72216@comcast.net> <20090630024001.GC72216@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <20090630024001.GC72216@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906301048.05860.erich@apsara.com.sg> Cc: Charlie Kester Subject: Re: OT: C syntax question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:48:23 -0000 Hi, On 30 June 2009 am 10:40:01 Charlie Kester wrote: > On Mon 29 Jun 2009 at 19:20:04 PDT Charlie Kester wrote: > > > >(Don't you hate it when your mistakes come back to haunt you > > in your inbox?) > at least there is nobody seeing your red face on a mailing list. > I should have quit while I was ahead. If this was a > programming interview, I just flunked it. :( I would never get the idea asking a programmer questions like this at all. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 03:01:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1A71065673 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A288FC15 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [212.54.34.136] (helo=smtp5.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MLTbK-0001eJ-Oq; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:01:42 +0200 Received: from [84.25.72.219] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp5.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MLTaa-00016F-Cw; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:00:56 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B885139849; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:00:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A497FE5.4080602@boosten.org> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:00:53 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Naumov References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1MLTaa-00016F-Cw X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.186, required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_40 -0.18, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: configuring and ssh tunneling xorg from a headless FreeBSD machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:01:44 -0000 Dan Naumov wrote: > Hello list. > > I have the following setup: a Windows Vista x64 SP1 machine (my > primary desktop) and a FreeBSD 7.2/amd64 running on a home NAS system > that's relatively powerful (Intel Atom 330 dualcore, 2gb ram). I would > like to be able to run xorg and a simple desktop on the headless > FreeBSD NAS and be able to interact with it from my Vista machine. > What are the steps I need to take for this? Obviously I need to build > xorg and some sort of a wm (probably gnome2-lite) on the FreeBSD > machine and install an xserver on the Vista machine, but then what? > Any pointers to guides and such are welcome. > You do not need a wm on the FreeBSD machine, since your Vista machine already is (with the right software of course, like Xming). If you want to tunnel your X traffic through ssh, then you'll need a ssh client on Vista as well. Putty will suffice. I think that's it: start Xming, ssh into your FreeBSD, your DISPLAY environment will be set to localhost:10.0 (that's the default offset). and fire some X client (say xterm) and it will show on your Vista. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 03:13:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6B81065673 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@apsara.com.sg) Received: from babylon.webvis.net (babylon.webvis.net [202.157.163.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB6A8FC15 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:13:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@apsara.com.sg) Received: from [10.0.1.240] ([119.73.191.194]) by apsara.com.sg ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:13:26 +0800 SGT From: Erich Dollansky Organization: apsara green technology pte ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:13:29 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906301113.30432.erich@apsara.com.sg> Cc: Dan Naumov Subject: Re: configuring and ssh tunneling xorg from a headless FreeBSD machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:13:29 -0000 Hi, On 30 June 2009 am 08:57:23 Dan Naumov wrote: > Hello list. > > I have the following setup: a Windows Vista x64 SP1 machine (my > primary desktop) and a FreeBSD 7.2/amd64 running on a home NAS > system that's relatively powerful (Intel Atom 330 dualcore, 2gb > ram). I would like to be able to run xorg and a simple desktop > on the headless FreeBSD NAS and be able to interact with it > from my Vista machine. What are the steps I need to take for > this? Obviously I need to build xorg and some sort of a wm install cygwin on the Windows machine and then use its telnet or ssh to connect to your FreeBSD machine. > (probably gnome2-lite) on the FreeBSD machine and install an > xserver on the Vista machine, but then what? Any pointers to > guides and such are welcome. > All you need on the FreeBSD machine is an installed X and telnet or better ssh enabled. It is your choice where you run the WM. It can run on the Windows machine - which gives a better response - or the FreeBSD machine. Start small with telnet and plain X on FreeBSD enabled and cygwin with X. X can display then your windows directly as Windows windows. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 03:14:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807281065677 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [74.1.12.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FE08FC23 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 26969 invoked by uid 1008); 30 Jun 2009 04:19:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 30 Jun 2009 04:19:41 -0000 Message-ID: <4A4982DB.8010909@el.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:13:31 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brent Bloxam References: <4A483CD3.9040304@el.net> <4A48E09D.3000102@beanfield.com> In-Reply-To: <4A48E09D.3000102@beanfield.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:14:21 -0000 > I've no experience with serial modems, but having read the man pages I > believe your remote(5) line is incorrect. > > sio0|com1:dv=/dev/cuad0:br#115200:pa=none: > > sets system names sio0 and com1, then you try to execute tip to > connect to cuad0. Is there an entry for cuad0 in your /etc/remote? I'm > confused as to why tip is returning 'unknown host tip0' however. > > Give `tip -v sio0` a shot, or change the system names in your > /etc/remote line yes the entry was wrong... changed it. when i try to use tip i get device busy. when i use cu it says connected but nothing else happens and i don't see any prompts. it's like frozen. i can't type any AT commands... nothing. i changed the baud rate around. all the way down to 9600. so now the same thing happens with tip. if used tip says connected but i can not issue any commands... the modem has 2 leds. one yellow and one green. according to the manual the yellow should be blinking as follows: Fast Blinking (0.5 sec on/0.5 sec off) Net search/ Not registered/Turning Off Slow Blinking (0.3 sec on/ 2.7 sec off) Registered, Full Service i think i'm only seeing 'Fast Blinking'..... i wonder what 'Net search' really means and where it's searching for it. it's connected through a RS-232 to the serial port... ?!? thanks... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 04:13:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD00106564A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:13:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06718FC08 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 30 Jun 2009 00:13:29 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.6-GA) with ESMTP id KYU72972; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:13:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 30 Jun 2009 00:13:21 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19017.37089.302624.903428@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:13:21 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19017.24376.343126.389436@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <19017.24376.343126.389436@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: OT: C syntax question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:13:30 -0000 Robert Huff writes: > Let us suppose I have a structure: Thanks, everyone - you nailed it in one. Robert "What a _maroon_!" Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 04:46:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91DF106564A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:46:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C568FC0A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:46:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id A4ll1c0070EZKEL5B4mM3i; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:46:21 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id A4mB1c0031f6R9u3M4mBZd; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:46:13 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:46:18 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:46:18 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090630044618.GD72216@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <19017.24376.343126.389436@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20090630022004.GB72216@comcast.net> <20090630024001.GC72216@comcast.net> <200906301048.05860.erich@apsara.com.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200906301048.05860.erich@apsara.com.sg> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: OT: C syntax question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:46:22 -0000 On Mon 29 Jun 2009 at 19:48:04 PDT Erich Dollansky wrote: > >I would never get the idea asking a programmer questions like this at >all. Yeah, nowadays nobody asks C programming questions in an interview. It's all web programming now. Back in the day, however, I was asked (and asked) questions much like this one. I used to have it down cold, but since I retired my brain cells are forgetting a lot of it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 05:42:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3328A106566C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C598FC17 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5U5gRMm048437; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:42:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n5U5gRMm048437 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1246340549; bh=q7sS+UmB7sHO+zpO7DngSpwekWYrZoz3FMDItvlOrus=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A49A5BC.7080204@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2030=20Jun=202009=2006:42:20=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.22=20(X11/20090625)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20utisoft@gmail.com|CC:=20Kent=20Stewart=20,=20fomin@pisem.net,=20=0D=0A=20freebsd-questions@freebs d.org|Subject:=20Re:=20my=20kernel=20is=20not=20build/install|Refe rences:=20<12460400390643.1842379727.fomin@pisem.net>=09<200906261 301.54442.kstewart@owt.com>=20=09<12460479580239.49250165.fomin@pi sem.net>=09<200906261401.25592.kstewart@owt.com>=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail -Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3D pgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D =0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig336CEAEF9FA538F60569BE3D"; b=MJg9euAXpu4fcOExlLqYJdtHKLXPd+VconqM1IBW7LRpbIhvD2pyoGa3hYrG5Imw+ VE2ZGWEb9855r/jZwgZ4kCxvo23Y6iThI9fau2bh2moRAZJIytDgcP5QRXY+VxBpfD g79v8Ll7/ypmHN19rcMnvoYXJulLcfR7vaGnrBRc= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A49A5BC.7080204@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:42:20 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090625) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: utisoft@gmail.com References: <12460400390643.1842379727.fomin@pisem.net> <200906261301.54442.kstewart@owt.com> <12460479580239.49250165.fomin@pisem.net> <200906261401.25592.kstewart@owt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig336CEAEF9FA538F60569BE3D" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: fomin@pisem.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kent Stewart Subject: Re: my kernel is not build/install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:42:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig336CEAEF9FA538F60569BE3D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris Rees wrote: > 2009/6/26 Kent Stewart : >> make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DFREEBSD1 2>&1 | >> tee /var/log/build/bkernel-`date "+%Y%m%d-%H%M"`.log >> >> It leaves a complete log everytime I build a kernel. Your options woul= d be >> different and I also use csh. >> >=20 >=20 > [chris@amnesiac]~% make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DFREEBSD1 2>&1 |tee > /var/log/build/bkernel-`date "+%Y%m%d-%H%M"`.log > Ambiguous output redirect. > [chris@amnesiac]~% >=20 > I think you've written that into a script for /bin/sh. >=20 > I've no idea how to pipe stderr in csh, but 2>&1 is NOT the way to do i= t! % make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DFREEBSD1 |& tee /var/log/build/bkernel-`dat= e "+%Y%m%d-%H%M"`.log Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig336CEAEF9FA538F60569BE3D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkpJpcIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIx1bQCfWQ6LxtSOnC++/Lf4zsk1h7// vjYAn0iEdGFQQKDtWXvFG8c3QySt4+BV =PVBB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig336CEAEF9FA538F60569BE3D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 06:12:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E69106566C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D658FC13 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n5U6Ck8R077659 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:12:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n5U6CkER077658; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA15731; Mon, 29 Jun 09 23:10:21 PDT Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:08:18 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: jerrymc@msu.edu Message-Id: <4a49abd2.TKuItlP0lNs/KVnb%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4A48A7EC.4070702@gmail.com> <20090629153148.GG80667@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20090629153148.GG80667@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I append a PR I submitted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:12:47 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > See subject > It is impolite to expect someone responding to a message to > have to go back to the subject line like this. > > See subject > is a very inadequate and somewhat tersely offensive. To each his own, I guess. In the case of a one-liner question which is adequately asked in the Subject, some of us find it a bit annoying to see the same question repeated as the only body line. > It certainly does not help those with a text based Email reader > that does not show the subject in the included text for a response. I'd expect it to have been reused -- prepended with Re: if it didn't already start that way -- as the Subject: of the reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 06:17:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C341065672 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:17:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFB98FC1C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:17:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2A716D80D5; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:17:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5U6HViF001509; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:17:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:17:31 +0200 From: Polytropon To: kalin m Message-Id: <20090630081731.95f90487.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4A4982DB.8010909@el.net> References: <4A483CD3.9040304@el.net> <4A48E09D.3000102@beanfield.com> <4A4982DB.8010909@el.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Brent Bloxam , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:17:40 -0000 On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:13:31 -0400, kalin m wrote: > yes the entry was wrong... changed it. when i try to use tip i get > device busy. when i use cu it says connected but nothing else happens > and i don't see any prompts. it's like frozen. i can't type any AT > commands... nothing. i changed the baud rate around. all the way down to > 9600. so now the same thing happens with tip. if used tip says connected > but i can not issue any commands... You could try to leave it to ppp, just for testing purposes. Everything you need is a number you can dial. Here's an example for an /etc/ppp/ppp.conf that would do something like this: # --- ppp.conf ----------------------------------------------- default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) set device /dev/cuad0 set speed 115200 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" set timeout 120 enable dns papchap: set phone PHONE_NUM set authname USERNAME set authkey PASSWORD add default HISADDR test: set phone 0123456789 set authname QWERTZ set authkey ASDFGH add default HISADDR # --- ppp.conf ----------------------------------------------- end --- With such a file, you can now: # ppp test ppp> dial *click dit dit dit dit... dooooo doooooo... * PPP> close *click* ppp> # In this case, you have confirmed that the serial modem works as intended. You can of course enter real data for an ISP that offers modem dial-in to get online. :-) You can find more help and examples in "man ppp". > the modem has 2 leds. one yellow and one green. according to the manual > the yellow should be blinking as follows: > > Fast Blinking (0.5 sec on/0.5 sec off) Net search/ Not > registered/Turning Off > Slow Blinking (0.3 sec on/ 2.7 sec off) Registered, Full Service > > i think i'm only seeing 'Fast Blinking'..... i wonder what 'Net search' > really means and where it's searching for it. it's connected through a > RS-232 to the serial port... > > ?!? But it IS a modem to dial tones and connect to something? "Net search"... no idea what that could mean. Serial modems usually don't search for nets... Or am I completely misunderstanding you and you're trying to find a command access to a DSL modem that has a serial line? -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 06:24:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4021065670 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4EB8FC12 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DC17E837 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:24:40 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:24:39 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <6201873e0906261104n575611bemeb3025d9e6e1ecb9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0906261104n575611bemeb3025d9e6e1ecb9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200906292224.39237.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: vde qemu write: No buffer space available X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:24:41 -0000 On Friday 26 June 2009 10:04:13 Adam Vande More wrote: > I'm having issues with high network throughput with vde and qemu. There > are two qemu vm's each running debian lenny and they are configured for > drbd. The vm's work fine until drbd is started then the networking fails. > The only message I get(on the host side) is > > write: No buffer space available It can be a driver issue, but the error message is somewhat misleading as it can be the result of an ill-configured firewall rule. Typically this happens when no state exists for the outgoing connection. > which is echoed to console, and nothing appears in the logs. I believe > this to be an issue with vde, but I can't be certain because I can't seem > to find any way to turn on more extensive logging. Anyone have an idea how > to resolve this? You should check netstat -m to make sure there are mbufs available and if there is check your firewall. If all seems ok, try freebsd-net list for any known issues, since you didn't get any "me too's" here. You may want to specify a bit more info, like pciconf -lv for the vde device, vmstat -i at the time of the errors, ifconfig vde0 output and any firewall information (including "I don't have one" or "error persists if firewall is disabled"). -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 06:37:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE4F106564A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:37:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54748FC0A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:37:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so4183080ewy.43 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:37:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5b9JDwP8PWoaYRUvFOn0G83pEFOPcoj/ODKXjmqF3ec=; b=noVLE2T7MDDgnzvtslxaotrvT3UZJJGSWyXXYqKmY5KTxnWagizKmkoCzYf9iCvlHX b77jSMf9DrE3XQqjIZi2jEARwjKgCILN2KTtxzN/7t80ztK73Khh2Xx/MhWyQd856UtJ sule38R5agn8eIOtSYHTiO1kdv1G3g64a7oWE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bDwXLPXhu/Mxyu4vsAcxTUAedl68swTG9/I0hQbZHD2c9LcLU2d4WbGenbSI4++jQv 1h14YtmRveUqTwKXSIHJ0JVezkZsm7s6lp1kVwnA6KGtmKZrswgcPg34VIaWS3xNKNpb hq210arjwYGpkvmwKP78UBgdEhAeDo4IQTBmE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.3.79 with SMTP id 57mr2252776weg.166.1246343827075; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:37:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4a49abd2.TKuItlP0lNs/KVnb%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4A48A7EC.4070702@gmail.com> <20090629153148.GG80667@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4a49abd2.TKuItlP0lNs/KVnb%perryh@pluto.rain.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:36:44 +0100 Message-ID: To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: jerrymc@msu.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how do I append a PR I submitted? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:37:09 -0000 2009/6/30 : > Jerry McAllister wrote: >> > See subject >> It is impolite to expect someone responding to a message to >> have to go back to the subject line like this. >> > See subject >> is a very inadequate and somewhat tersely offensive. > > To each his own, I guess. =A0In the case of a one-liner question > which is adequately asked in the Subject, some of us find it a bit > annoying to see the same question repeated as the only body line. > >> It certainly does not help those with a text based Email reader >> that does not show the subject in the included text for a response. > > I'd expect it to have been reused -- prepended with Re: if it didn't > already start that way -- as the Subject: of the reply. Assuming you hit Reply to every question like that.... Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 07:31:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C288B106564A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D53C8FC19 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so4206243ewy.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:31:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=l3Cu7fzBHSgvKQObqCGup0cOAuhs/iOB3qUAEO2R5m4=; b=bXNzLQJizfnSonf319KsARl2loScL6NT2uVUp3rTAA9ZIMiTJlrCMdwu/JHjSZ7ku0 VqxdIJPQSnBmCIBPAu8Fve3aoT3EpGtqm5wQaJNSuufHQG62r9ZU0d+bxNtbogBI7GJ8 aWF+J51KsHYu8pnHABLq60KkLTyrOBY+/d66Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; b=Fj36LoZBUhC8gQivgGaMVqfLkLtr7Jcj4ytnxbYYIjrCBJDWvsz6l3yINrKU2sf/Qa C4H0UpPU/FCK4INQ6NV82pOxdQbe2Ar5qvVgfRxURnjayhu+4tlA9yki2JTn7odTmV9c DELforaQNZjPO10TF2+kEL2xBpBTWkIV2mQO4= Received: by 10.210.81.9 with SMTP id e9mr726579ebb.68.1246347065416; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from logik.internal.network (geeshaulage.lcdsl.co.uk [62.249.247.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm13300158ewy.55.2009.06.30.00.31.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by logik.internal.network (Postfix, from userid 11001) id D3DBE5D59; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:31:02 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:31:02 +0100 From: xorquewasp@googlemail.com To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20090630073102.GB68638@logik.internal.network> References: <20090629191417.GA2907@logik.internal.network> <20090629213408.GA9127@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090629215904.GA68638@logik.internal.network> <20090630001311.GA13398@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090630001311.GA13398@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 VM with OpenGL? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:31:07 -0000 On 2009-06-30 02:13:11, Roland Smith wrote: > > The page says it does. Forgive me for being cynical but after countless experiences, I rarely believe such statements any more! > > Virtualbox + VMGL seems the most likely candidate at the moment - > > From the abovementioned page: "VMGL is available for X11-based guest OS's". > > > I'm just not sure if it's currently stable at all. > > At version 0.1.1, I wouldn't expect too much. > > OpenGL is just a display mechanism. If the calculations feeding the > display have to be run in an emulator, this will slow your program down > considerably. Well, I'd be running with virtualization extensions as my CPU supports them and I'd think that OpenGL commands being passed from a VM straight to the graphics card via this system shouldn't incur too much overhead. > If your program on the guest OS is already written for X11, can't you > port it to FreeBSD? Or run it natively and transport the output to your > FreeBSD box via X11? If I'd written the program, it'd already be running on FreeBSD natively, you've got my word on that. Unfortunately it's old and, of course, proprietary. xw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 07:36:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5711106564A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:36:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551F18FC15 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:36:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so4209009ewy.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:36:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition; bh=8cUbwmFdlVLVocZYmOJaeem+01dcqXXOdqjE3nwxWfA=; b=IKrs+R+Fc8G45IecNKvWbt7C0t7eQEwoTDj0Eft+0oZ9ShmapyTOT+dBExIanoBr0C waFDx+JXviptaP/Q5XE2qw7KtWuSTc82XwSUpTyRFpWANltWQ78bDuInW2hb1ehHJSAo aJq8qLgunZBrrsZ7ylbBDt6YB0x0dRPa4wZv8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition; b=uFbL1/2EgxjEtL6+gC5J5Xbrb0HiOpXk1dUWOzTA/XXb90ipZcGZgLG5T0Qg0KIYIp x0O0W6PdKnBgQNzhTTvGlBLnHmjIX0E6JZAoGq2FJhmORXS6jI6QArS4RWiIx2SEFXiB +QAwGUjmXil7o5Nkyx7QK5z7T14cPzVv7s8dQ= Received: by 10.210.29.9 with SMTP id c9mr2811568ebc.1.1246347410261; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from logik.internal.network (geeshaulage.lcdsl.co.uk [62.249.247.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm14721168ewy.86.2009.06.30.00.36.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by logik.internal.network (Postfix, from userid 11001) id 3C4FE5D59; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:36:48 +0100 From: xorquewasp@googlemail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090630073648.GC68638@logik.internal.network> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: net-im/mu-conference dependency oddity. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:36:52 -0000 Hello. Anyone know how/why net-im/mu-conference depends on devel/gio-fam-backend? I don't see it mentioned in any RUN_DEPENDS line nor in any of the dependencies of dependencies. I'm building the port WITH_JABBERD. xw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 08:17:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B05F1065674 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:17:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faust64@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FA48FC17 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faust64@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2329895fxm.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:17:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=EQCJEk9z/9BqjFQKq/p9lF266SISbwhHv+7ZNUofR04=; b=cwAhPDiWpP06N6GgV1jMQnyYEiikzrLMnP8TySTipzMyQmuJiQtFGlRAbhv9+U9cSC DJfEpH7LaXmkA31+5+DmX02RKlW3DPPRyiP3q4qIBI3XxbdGHFqP34c2J3Zr/3erk7a4 FORIEjRRlPjUYrsT/Fryif7rOtZySWul/TiYc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=bYlOgT3PnvZx3L1J63kHLbUN0ivdfVrjVtsOVs9/foFLONdsb5vXtr5U/B4EEBmgHX QHnKtjh4S/bAT6Hx8blTjsNuDdr5iWHSLrhKzysAnDLlxJBuO+i3ualwKmqukFqKwJ2I kkCf7oVjbBJNvvFD50kOwd45DoCs0ArXkH0DI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.15 with SMTP id k15mr8164052bkq.111.1246349829250; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:17:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1246290691.3981.5.camel@Lappy> References: <1246289897.3981.3.camel@Lappy> <1246290691.3981.5.camel@Lappy> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Mart=EDn_Moro?= Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:16:49 +0200 Message-ID: To: Sean Bruno , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: can't read from two cameras X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:17:11 -0000 What do you mean?Are you the fwcontrol maintener? Is it a common problem on 7.x? Why would fwcontrol work on -CURRENT, while not in 7.x? Thanks! Samuel Mart=EDn Moro CamTrace {EPITECH.} tek3 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Sean Bruno wrote= : > Yeah, I thought so. > > One of these days I'll backport from -CURRENT to 7, but I haven't yet. > > -CURRENT most likely doesn't have this issue. > > Sean > > On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 17:43 +0200, Samuel Mart=EDn Moro wrote: > > sry, I forget: > > > > > > uname -a > > FreeBSD h2g2.axis.fr 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 > > 08:49:13 UTC 2009 > > root@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > > > > > sysctl -a | grep firewire > > debug.firewire_debug: 0 > > hw.firewire.hold_count: 3 > > hw.firewire.try_bmr: 1 > > hw.firewire.fwmem.speed: 2 > > hw.firewire.fwmem.eui64_lo: 0 > > hw.firewire.fwmem.eui64_hi: 0 > > hw.firewire.phydma_enable: 1 > > hw.firewire.nocyclemaster: 0 > > hw.firewire.fwe.rx_queue_len: 128 > > hw.firewire.fwe.tx_speed: 2 > > hw.firewire.fwe.stream_ch: 2 > > hw.firewire.fwip.rx_queue_len: 128 > > hw.firewire.sbp.tags: 0 > > hw.firewire.sbp.use_doorbell: 0 > > hw.firewire.sbp.scan_delay: 500 > > hw.firewire.sbp.login_delay: 1000 > > hw.firewire.sbp.exclusive_login: 1 > > hw.firewire.sbp.max_speed: 2 > > hw.firewire.sbp.auto_login: 1 > > dev.firewire.0.%desc: IEEE1394(FireWire) bus > > dev.firewire.0.%driver: firewire > > dev.firewire.0.%parent: fwohci0 > > dev.fwe.0.%parent: firewire0 > > dev.fwip.0.%parent: firewire0 > > dev.sbp.0.%parent: firewire0 > > dev.dcons_crom.0.%parent: firewire0 > > > > > > > > > > if one need something else... ;) > > > > > > thanks ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Samuel Mart=EDn Moro > > CamTrace > > {EPITECH.} tek3 > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Sean Bruno > > wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 15:50 +0200, Samuel Mart=EDn Moro wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > I've got a problem, trying to read streams from 2 firewire > > DV cameras. > > > When I plug the second camera in, the first one disapear > > from my /dev, and > > > is replaced by the new one. > > > > > > So I just get /dev/fw0 (-> /dev/fw0.0) and /dev/fwmem0 > > (-> /dev/fwmem0.0) > > > > > > How can I get more than one device in my /dev ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > Samuel Mart=EDn Moro > > > CamTrace > > > {EPITECH.} tek3 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-firewire > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-firewire-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Ouch. Really? > > > > What FreeBSD version is this? > > > > Sean > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 08:42:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D721065670 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meta@club.kyutech.ac.jp) Received: from sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp (sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp [131.206.108.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6D68FC12 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meta@club.kyutech.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718541147B; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:14:54 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at club.kyutech.ac.jp Received: from [192.168.1.52] (fereci.isc.kyutech.ac.jp [131.206.4.193]) by sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F43F11477; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:14:32 +0900 (JST) From: Koichiro Iwao To: Daniel Underwood In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: iPod Mail (5H11) References: Message-Id: <8D2B8B86-AB63-4CB0-BE0E-AA2D717D4028@club.kyutech.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 5H11) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:14:33 +0900 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:42:28 -0000 I'm not sure about the difference, but you will easily find it on Wikipedia. To avoid the warning, just try the ssh -Y option. -- meta On 2009/06/24, at 8:33, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Whenever I > > $ ssh -X user@server > > from my FreeBSD machine, I get the following message (and am > successfully logged in): > > Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not > generated > Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 > forwarding. > > When I log in to the same servers from my Ubuntu machines, I do NOT > get that message. > > What's wrong here? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 08:58:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65341065672 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:58:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from no-spam@people.net.au) Received: from smtp.per.people.net.au (smtp.per.people.net.au [202.154.92.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EF28FC1F for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from no-spam@people.net.au) Received: (qmail 5818 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2009 08:31:58 -0000 Received: from dslwebmail.swiftel.com.au (HELO webmail.people.net.au) ([202.154.92.47]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.per.people.net.au (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Jun 2009 08:31:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 22303 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2009 08:35:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by webmail.people.net.au with SMTP; 30 Jun 2009 08:35:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AtMail PHP 5.4 Message-ID: <29382.1246350926@people.net.au> To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Origin: 218.214.176.70 X-Atmail-Account: no-spam@people.net.au Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:35:26 +0000 From: no-spam@people.net.au Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: named startup problems upgrading from 7.1p4 to 7.1p5 or 7.1p6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: no-spam@people.net.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:58:34 -0000 Sorry for starting a new thread with this - my ISP's mail server seems to r= ejecting all mail recipients when I=20 send email with a mail client, so I'm having to use webmail instead. Their = tech says they won't help - they=20 only support Outlook! Grrr! On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:27:07 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Ian wrote: > > Well the fact that if I run /etc/rc.d/named manually after the system > > has booted, the script also hangs suggests it's not the next process I > > have just check however & ntpdate is the next one in the list to be > > started and that does start correctly - you can see it report the clock > > being adjusted. Also, when you do a Ctrl+C to break the named script on > > bootup, it says "Script /etc/rc.d/named interrupted". > > > > Something I've just realised is that named stays loaded even when you > > 'break' the script. on bootup and DNS lookups work (I didn't think that > > was the case originally, but it is). Actually, some careful checking tonight shows that I had forgotten I had a= =20 second DNS server in resolv.conf that was doing the DNS resolution - in fac= t=20 bind on this server is not working even though a bind process appears to be= =20 running :/ > Hmmm.... > > Anything interesting from named in the system logs? You might want to > enable /var/log/all.log by following the instructions in /etc/syslog.conf > and then see what output you get by bouncing named. It's usually pretty > good at pointing out exactly what it thinks the problem is. I've enabled all.log, it only shows the following output when starting name= d: Jun 29 20:51:43 msgserver named[1593]: starting BIND 9.4.2-P2 -t /var/named= -u=20 bind Jun 29 20:51:43 msgserver named[1593]: found 1 CPU, using 1 worker thread a ps axw | grep named gives the following output after running /etc/rc.d/na= med=20 start: 1988 ?? Is 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u bind 1930 p0 I+ 0:00.06 /bin/sh -x /etc/rc.d/named start 1987 p0 I+ 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u bind and then after doing a Ctrl+C in the terminal where /etc/rc.d/named start i= s=20 running, only one process continues to run: 1988 ?? Is 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u bind This process doesn't respond to DNS queries, to rndc commands,=20 to /etc/rc.d/named stop (says no process is running because there is no pid= =20 file being created) or by a kill command other than kill -9. (All named processes were killed before stating named) > > You could also try running: > > # /bin/sh -x /etc/rc.d/named start > -- make sure named isn't running when you do that. There will be quite > a lot of output as the rc system loads all of the various config files, > but you should be able to trace exactly where it's got to when it does > hang. Here's the edited highlights of output, I can't see anything that helps: > + _rc_subr_loaded=3D: > + name=3Dnamed > + rcvar=3Dnamed_enable > + command=3D/usr/sbin/named > + extra_commands=3Dreload > + start_precmd=3Dnamed_precmd > + start_postcmd=3Dmake_symlinks > + reload_cmd=3Dnamed_reload > + stop_cmd=3Dnamed_stop > + stop_postcmd=3Dnamed_poststop > + load_rc_config named > + _name=3Dnamed > + [ -z named ] > + false > + [ -r /etc/defaults/rc.conf ] > > > > + named_enable=3DNO > + named_program=3D/usr/sbin/named > + named_pidfile=3D/var/run/named/pid > + named_uid=3Dbind > + named_chrootdir=3D/var/named > + named_chroot_autoupdate=3DYES > + named_symlink_enable=3DYES > > > > + sourced_files=3D:/etc/rc.conf::/etc/rc.conf.local: > + [ -r /etc/rc.conf.local ] > + _rc_conf_loaded=3Dtrue > + [ -f /etc/rc.conf.d/named ] > + required_dirs=3D/var/named > + pidfile=3D/var/run/named/pid > + command_args=3D-u bind > + run_rc_command start > + _return=3D0 > + rc_arg=3Dstart > + [ -z named ] > + shift 1 > + rc_extra_args=3D > + _rc_prefix=3D > + eval _override_command=3D$named_program > + _override_command=3D/usr/sbin/named > + command=3D/usr/sbin/named > + _keywords=3Dstart stop restart rcvar reload > + rc_pid=3D > + _pidcmd=3D > + _procname=3D/usr/sbin/named > + [ -n /usr/sbin/named ] > + [ -n /var/run/named/pid ] > + _pidcmd=3Drc_pid=3D$(check_pidfile /var/run/named/pid /usr/sbin/named ) > + [ -n rc_pid=3D$(check_pidfile /var/run/named/pid /usr/sbin/named ) ] > + _keywords=3Dstart stop restart rcvar reload status poll > + [ -z start ] > + [ -n ] > + eval rc_flags=3D$named_flags > + rc_flags=3D > + eval _chdir=3D$named_chdir _chroot=3D$named_chroot _nice=3D$named_nice > _user=3D$named_user _group=3D$named_group _groups=3D$named_groups > + _chdir=3D _chroot=3D _nice=3D _user=3D _group=3D _groups=3D > + [ -n ] > + [ -n named_enable -a start !=3D rcvar ] > + checkyesno named_enable > + eval _value=3D$named_enable > + _value=3DYES > + debug checkyesno: named_enable is set to YES. > + return 0 > + eval rc_pid=3D$(check_pidfile /var/run/named/pid /usr/sbin/named ) > + check_pidfile /var/run/named/pid /usr/sbin/named > + _pidfile=3D/var/run/named/pid > + _procname=3D/usr/sbin/named > + _interpreter=3D > + [ -z /var/run/named/pid -o -z /usr/sbin/named ] > + [ ! -f /var/run/named/pid ] > + debug pid file (/var/run/named/pid): not readable. > + return > + rc_pid=3D > + [ start !=3D start ] > + eval _cmd=3D$start_cmd _precmd=3D$start_precmd _postcmd=3D$start_postcm= d > + _cmd=3D _precmd=3Dnamed_precmd _postcmd=3Dmake_symlinks > + [ -n ] > + [ -z -a -n ] > + [ ! -x /usr/sbin/named ] > + _run_rc_precmd > + check_required_before start > + local _f > + [ ! -d /var/named/. ] > + return 0 > + [ -n named_precmd ] > + debug run_rc_command: start_precmd: named_precmd > + eval named_precmd > + named_precmd > + [ -n /var/named ] > + rc_flags=3D -t /var/named > + checkyesno named_chroot_autoupdate > + eval _value=3D$named_chroot_autoupdate > + _value=3DYES > + debug checkyesno: named_chroot_autoupdate is set to YES. > + return 0 > + chroot_autoupdate > + [ -r /etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist ] > + mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist -p /var/named > + [ ! -L /etc/namedb ] > + ln -shf /var/named/etc/namedb /etc/namedb > + umount /var/named/dev > + devfs_domount /var/named/dev devfsrules_hide_all > + local devdir rs _me > + devdir=3D/var/named/dev > + [ -n devfsrules_hide_all ] > + rs=3Ddevfsrules_hide_all > + _me=3Ddevfs_domount() > + [ -z /var/named/dev ] > + debug devfs_domount(): mount-point is (/var/named/dev), ruleset is > > (whole lot of devfs stuff) > > + devfs_set_ruleset devfsrules_hide_all /var/named/dev > + local devdir rs _me > + [ -n devfsrules_hide_all ] > + eval rs=3D$devfsrules_hide_all > + rs=3D1 > + [ -n /var/named/dev ] > + devdir=3D-m /var/named/dev > + _me=3Ddevfs_set_ruleset > + [ -z 1 ] > + debug devfs_set_ruleset: setting ruleset (1) on mount-point > (/var/named/dev) + /sbin/devfs -m /var/named/dev ruleset 1 > + return 0 > + devfs -m /var/named/dev rule applyset > + return 0 > + devfs -m /var/named/dev rule apply path null unhide > + devfs -m /var/named/dev rule apply path random unhide > + [ -r /etc/localtime ] > + cmp -s /etc/localtime /var/named/etc/localtime > + [ -s /var/named/etc/namedb/rndc.conf ] > + return 0 > + _return=3D0 > + [ 0 -ne 0 ] > + check_required_after start > + local _f _args > + return 0 > + return 0 > + echo Starting named. > Starting named. > + [ -n ] > + _doit=3D/usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u bind > + [ -n ] > + [ -n ] > + _run_rc_doit /usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u bind > + debug run_rc_command: doit: /usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u bind > + eval /usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u bind > + /usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u bind and that's where it hangs! The only thing that looks vaguely like an error = to=20 me is about halfway down: + debug pid file (/var/run/named/pid): not=20 readable.=20 There is no /var/run/named/pid file being created, but then named isn't=20 loading properly, so it may not be an issue. > > You're using the system-supplied copy of bind aren't you? Have you got > a valid /etc/named/rndc.conf or /etc/named/rndc.key file so you can use > rndc(8)? If not, try running: > > # rndc-confgen > /etc/namedb/rndc.conf > > and then cut'n'paste the indicated key and controls statements from that > file into named.conf, stripping out the comment characters as you do (of > course). Yes, it's the system supplied version & yes I have a /etc/named/rndc.key t= hat=20 I assume is valid - I could run rndc commands in p4 (and still can if I=20 rollback to that version). I've generated a new rndc.conf (having renamed rndc.key) to see that helps,= =20 but it doesn't. Running any rndc command (like rndc status or rndc debug) causes rndc to lo= ad=20 and hang, the only way to kill it is with a kill -9, Ctrl+C or Ctrl+D don't= =20 work. The same applies if I just run /usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u bind. I'm beginning to think there is something wrong with my named.conf or zone= =20 files or dynamic update config, though they work just fine in -p4. Cheers, =20 Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 09:42:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F721065670 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:42:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164968FC15 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AADC1D6; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:42:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5U9gDIA003238; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:42:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:42:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: no-spam@people.net.au Message-Id: <20090630114213.e3defb62.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <29382.1246350926@people.net.au> References: <29382.1246350926@people.net.au> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named startup problems upgrading from 7.1p4 to 7.1p5 or 7.1p6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:42:22 -0000 On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:35:26 +0000, no-spam@people.net.au wrote: > Sorry for starting a new thread with this - my ISP's mail server seems to rejecting all mail recipients when I Which which reason? > send email with a mail client, so I'm having to use webmail instead. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 09:51:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4720B1065670 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA928FC19 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU0-SMTP64 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:51:21 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.23.177.172] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.23.177.172]) by BLU0-SMTP64.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:51:20 -0700 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E3D228F0 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81AAA228D7 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:51:19 -0400 From: Carmel NY To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4A495AAB.3000403@gmail.com> References: <4A495AAB.3000403@gmail.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.2; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2009 09:51:21.0091 (UTC) FILETIME=[52631530:01C9F968] Subject: Re: Firefox: Video but no audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:51:22 -0000 On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:52:03 +0530 Manish Jain wrote: > Do you have problems with sound only on Firefox ? If your problem is > that you can't get sound with any application, then please see the > output of 'cat /dev/sndstat'. If you get nothing, then you probably > don't have an appropriate sound driver loaded. > > If you have an Intel-based board, try putting snd_ich_load="YES" and > snd_hda_load="YES" into your /boot/loader.conf > > If your problem is Firefox-specific, then try editing > Tools->Options. On the Applications tab, see whether you have an > entry for MP3 Format Sounds and that it set to something reasonable. Sound works fine with everything except firefox. I am not sure what version of FF you are referring to. I have no menu listing for "TOOLS" > "OPTIONS" listed. I do have an "EDIT" > "PREFERENCES"; however, there is nothing about sound listed there. -- Carmel carmel@hotmail.com The sudden sight of me causes panic in the streets. They have yet to learn - only the savage fears what he does not understand. The Silver Surfer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 09:52:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202D21065673; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:52:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malathiramya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f198.google.com (mail-pz0-f198.google.com [209.85.222.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E496C8FC18; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malathiramya@gmail.com) Received: by pzk36 with SMTP id 36so11468pzk.29 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:52:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=0UK+aVSP24BulgwA3ccAcUAdaAJ/YAor9941PClugig=; b=pFnwlqNlpCEuwUSd6z/tUzG+W6GsWe0ft1RR1pNWusifSzN5suiJ0GKI503KGHd1Ae Kpc2vZI9+b//lQWdu/YfIZbEjZGnRCVYZ3cjxojBtJIChEY21Bw+2ghvkIEm0s28fnzj nClcabg2rsHJ984Kft25cWf0+WxmveuNxcwFw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=IvruvvDlT7ovxEnNEY1CcxmgzZWWo+c4n/UvON5qLF3ApVTeAgkVjI7f8icwxC1/c1 Odpw6H3uFyxHxvaNNX1dar+SAOdmYmitEAv/wUBexJ+Zp6mEgEb0pE0MOlP0qTL9JrIz A4KCvGxObY/aZiP41yq/SImzzNg6+EQU6YTRM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.9.11 with SMTP id m11mr2089766wfi.25.1246355577427; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:22:57 +0530 Message-ID: From: malathi selvaraj To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: good afternoon to all X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:52:58 -0000 i am not able to made rcpbind, i get an error while making the rcpbind like this RPC: Unknown host showmount: can't do exports rpc Thanks in advance -- S.MALATHI From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 11:16:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A7C106566C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vadim.braun@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD248FC22 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vadim.braun@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so59016ewy.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:16:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=5bDUfGD+cicB5HfzMBZx3V09tI/cMPKpur9TwwYV8m8=; b=nKmi841b8jhric/vrpr+Hg8moIUBHXRBBTq6S3L0IAZ7B1rIhoYYfmmOiklqn7cPf8 RdGbBtq0p4oq3tXhckIdCl55r+qkZOWcumpTjTMrxdTssKxeq4JUx4VmDfA/ihmfJUhc qW6mwhAEMOzRIjzQO/7GL4PEICX/MVoyjHfH4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=YCmLtYZX/vaDr3vqLOZRQzGqGqojhffRDpoxVQz7+rzVcT2jt+R4PlCt/k003PNbVp gPxyObUWRBc6nwsDxXVc8ShqDO4KiEa/04C1fntIvwKU48GCE5gy/7tjC5bTJGI/QaYl utAhP9F2nBIaWm+LTTmBDuOPFDZoA3+9iqYeo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.211.168.5 with SMTP id v5mr2085130ebo.96.1246358705163; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:45:05 -0700 (PDT) From: vadim braun Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:44:45 +0300 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=0015174bdc10e25006046d8e7fae X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Strange HDA sound behavior on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:16:25 -0000 --0015174bdc10e25006046d8e7fae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I try to set correct sound driver using Handbook on my notebook Dell Inspiron 1501. Load sound drivers: zero# kldload snd_driver See attachment dmesg_after_loading_sound_meta_driver.txt zero# cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2007061600/amd64) Installed devices: pcm0: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) Add string snd_hda_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf and reboot system. Dmesg after loading with snd_hda in loader.conf you can see in attachment dmesg_verbose_with_snd_hda_in_loader_conf.txt Pciconf info you can see in attachment pciconf.txt zero# ls /dev acd0 acpi ad4 ad4s1 ad4s1a ad4s1b ad4s1c ad4s1d ad4s1e ad4s1f ad4s1g ata atkbd0 audit bpf0 bpsm0 console consolectl ctty cuad0 cuad0.init cuad0.lock da0 da0s1 dcons devctl devstat dgdb dumpdev fd fido geom.ctl io kbd0 kbd1 kbdmux0 klog kmem log mdctl mem midistat mixer0 net net1 net2 network nfs4 nfslock null pass0 pci psm0 random sndstat stderr stdin stdout sysmouse ttyd0 ttyd0.init ttyd0.lock ttyv0 ttyv1 ttyv2 ttyv3 ttyv4 ttyv5 ttyv6 ttyv7 ttyv8 ttyv9 ttyva ttyvb ttyvc ttyvd ttyve ttyvf ufsid urandom usb usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4 usb5 xpt0 zero Where is dsp or pcm device? 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banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n5UBH1bd031347 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:17:01 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5UBLS31030535; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:21:28 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:21:28 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200906301121.n5UBLS31030535@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Compatibility of motherboard Asus KFSN5-D X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:21:37 -0000 Hi, I would like to build a FreeBSD 7.2 server on the motherboard Asus KFSN5-D. It looks like the chipset is nVIDIA nForce Professional 3600, I don't see it being supported (or not). Before I engage in buying, I would like to make sure I'll have no problem. TIA, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 12:06:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4388B10656A9 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EBD8FC08 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (105.10.87-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.87.10.105]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 43DFF63317E; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49874D053; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:04 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: Siyan Sabinov Hadzhiev Message-ID: <20090630140604.2628cb95@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> In-Reply-To: <1246272828.10487.5.camel@bsdt43.turbo.net.tr> References: <1246213557.1855.1.camel@bsdt43.turbo.net.tr> <20090628203309.GA1842@banach> <1246272828.10487.5.camel@bsdt43.turbo.net.tr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.2; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Jose Garcia Juanino , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.2 - iwi error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:06:06 -0000 Le Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:53:48 +0300, Siyan Sabinov Hadzhiev a =E9crit : > I have configure bmiss parameter in rc.conf as you said and enable > debug.iwi in sysctl , Bellow you can see the log entries. > I remembered that these entries were like yours , Beacon Miss.. > Now they have changed to something different.The "iwi0 device timeout" > errors went away after the bmiss config. >=20 > So I will try with this config , and I think it will work for me. You can try the new Intel firmware for iwi, see http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D3849 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 12:22:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C51F1065670 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F366D8FC0A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (105.10.87-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.87.10.105]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0C67063352C; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:22:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29000D053; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:22:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:22:30 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: vadim braun Message-ID: <20090630142230.60688b50@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.2; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions list Subject: Re: Strange HDA sound behavior on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:22:30 -0000 Le Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:44:45 +0300, vadim braun a =E9crit : > Hi all, > I try to set correct sound driver using Handbook on my notebook Dell > Inspiron 1501. >=20 > Load sound drivers: > zero# kldload snd_driver > See attachment dmesg_after_loading_sound_meta_driver.txt > zero# cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2007061600/amd64) > Installed devices: > pcm0: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac0 > kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) > zero# ls /dev > Where is dsp or pcm device? You will not see them, they are cloned device (something like that). That's ok. > Can someone help me? What's the problem? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 12:37:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC5D1065672 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:37:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vadim.braun@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271A78FC08 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vadim.braun@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so111530ewy.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:37:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=WmZs7zUCX1f1/72aa5GIcvbj1lQehb1ytjVGu6yZzjg=; b=BA9AAd9c8rQ5zp5abD7dQrR3vVH9P96w97Io/hjRT7FtZxMNPRk4MSHpHFpgpJ31nI ZPu0qbW8PaliNISwfMFlYrnZoY9y2+vzxrBxDjlAjXNSIYHdXUdEOCZMewmUSdvwITbx JlHsl6N3EmAoLufDABtS9luO6+U+D1yfFa0fU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=xrtxU5I+/LYoVaCDFgyWSX9Dw3bFE8PxNPfaIa8+NVRcrDh6odfp7tqAJvspgd2Jtv CSmVLBwqeRehPWA6IEg8eU9av8VYGOFwELuWwKo1iWYYRILuQSzjNiCfDeHN0hhvC4TA g59YHRNNtPeXZnl4EOhRXhhWn2bIKDjgZEdCM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.113.19 with SMTP id l19mr44043ebc.75.1246365466093; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:37:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090630142230.60688b50@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> References: <20090630142230.60688b50@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> From: vadim braun Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:37:26 +0300 Message-ID: To: Patrick Lamaiziere Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions list Subject: Re: Strange HDA sound behavior on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:37:47 -0000 2009/6/30 Patrick Lamaiziere > Le Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:44:45 +0300, > vadim braun a =E9crit : > > > Hi all, > > I try to set correct sound driver using Handbook on my notebook Dell > > Inspiron 1501. > > > > Load sound drivers: > > zero# kldload snd_driver > > See attachment dmesg_after_loading_sound_meta_driver.txt > > zero# cat /dev/sndstat > > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2007061600/amd64) > > Installed devices: > > pcm0: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac0 > > kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) > > > zero# ls /dev > > Where is dsp or pcm device? > > You will not see them, they are cloned device (something like that). > That's ok. > > > Can someone help me? > > What's the problem? Sorry, I saw this string in Handbook Another quick way to test the card is sending data to /dev/dsp, like this: % cat filename > /dev/dsp So I can't find /dev/dsp device and I think what something wrong with my system. Thanks for help! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 13:05:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7A9106566C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from blade2-ext.obspm.fr (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15EF8FC20 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by blade2-ext.obspm.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 15/11/07) with ESMTP id n5UCrp9I027883 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:53:52 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:53:51 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Lowell Gilbert Message-ID: <20090630125351.GG85383@obspm.fr> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20090629140002.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> <44hbxysv6s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <44hbxysv6s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (blade2-ext.obspm.fr [145.238.186.20]); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:53:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on blade2-ext.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Brad Mettee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:05:35 -0000 Le 29/06/2009 ŕ 15:20:59-0400, Lowell Gilbert a écrit > Brad Mettee writes: > > > If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web > > pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this: > > FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb > > 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 > > root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > > To something newer? (like 7.2 stable) > > > > Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update? > > At *least* make sure you get the security updates... > Other reason to make time to time a update is to simplify you life when your old version don't work after N years. Someday you may have (for example) postfix don't work anymore on you old version. So when you don't have the choice, the update may very hard to make. Regards. -- Albert SHIH SIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Heure local/Local time: Mar 30 jui 2009 14:50:02 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 13:11:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25789106567A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:11:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jg@panix.com) Received: from l2mail1.panix.com (l2mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6EB8FC2E for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jg@panix.com) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by l2mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEACE37 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from panix5.panix.com (panix5.panix.com [166.84.1.5]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57F61F086 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by panix5.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 20651) id BA99E24305; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:54:36 -0400 From: James Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090630125435.GA29303@panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl" Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2 X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x842DD368 X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: F850 A09C F877 FBC4 A63C FDDC 7484 4EEF 842D D368 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: msmtp port with tls X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:11:29 -0000 --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello I've installed msmtp using ports but it doesn't have tls support. I have read the ports information in the handbook and i understand you can modify the compile options, but it's not clear to me how i can do that with msmtp. I've had a look at the Makefile which is where i think i need to make the change but i'm just not sure what to do. Does anyone know how i can compile msmtp with tls support? TIA, Jamie (i'm using FreeBSD 6.4) --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (NetBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpKCwsACgkQdIRO74Qt02jAPwCfWNV2nx1wp5vE2JuMyEGH/4le RcYAmQFqYJzz7jVfG/RBpkgKmDdaSNo3 =E0+g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 13:17:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D411065670 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B689D8FC1D for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n5UDCqFe001950 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:12:52 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5UDHM0H001348; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:17:22 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:17:22 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200906301317.n5UDHM0H001348@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org, bmettee@pchotshots.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20090630125351.GG85383@obspm.fr> (message from Albert Shih on Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:53:51 +0200) References: <4.3.2.7.2.20090629140002.02ee3cb8@mail.pchotshots.com> <44hbxysv6s.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20090630125351.GG85383@obspm.fr> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: Subject: Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:17:30 -0000 > > Brad Mettee writes: > > > > > If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail & web > > > pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this: > > > FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb > > > 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008 > > > root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > > > > To something newer? (like 7.2 stable) > > > > > > Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update? > > > > At *least* make sure you get the security updates... > > > Other reason to make time to time a update is to simplify you life when > your old version don't work after N years. Someday you may have (for example) > postfix don't work anymore on you old version. So when you don't have the > choice, the update may very hard to make. Another reason to consider, at some date, 7.0 will not be amintained anymore. At that time you may be facing difficulties to upgrade to the latest legacy release: upgrades are better tested when done in sequence: 7.0 to 7.1, 7.1 to 7.2, etc. 7.x to 8.y. 7.0 to 8.y may work, or may not. So you better not stay too far behind. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 13:41:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F7C1065673 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2578FC16 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com ([98.150.187.245]) by hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090630134119351.JLZA4042@hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:41:19 +0000 Received: from holstein.holy.cow (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DA83357 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:42:52 -1000 (HST) Received: (from parv@localhost) by holstein.holy.cow (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n5UDgppw004333 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:42:51 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) X-Authentication-Warning: holstein.holy.cow: parv set sender to parv@pair.com using -f Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:42:51 -1000 From: parv@pair.com To: f-q Message-ID: <20090630134251.GA4283@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: f-q References: <20090624121036.GA3661@holstein.holy.cow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090624121036.GA3661@holstein.holy.cow> Subject: Re: eSATA and/or Firewire 800|400 card, cardbus or expresscard 54mm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:41:22 -0000 In message <20090624121036.GA3661@holstein.holy.cow> on -mobile list[0], I asked for suggestions for a firewire or eSATA card to be put in Thinkpad T61 PCMCIA or EtherExpress slot, while most likely running FreeBSD 7. After about 6 days getting no replies but still dwindling hard disk space, where should I ask the question again: -hardware, -firewire, -stable, here[1]? - Parv [0] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2009-June/011664.html [1] Well, I kind of did. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 14:18:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155A6106566C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:18:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.jacobs@custserv.com) Received: from linsmtp.tcs.timeinc.com (post.customersvc.com [209.251.192.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21958FC1F for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark.jacobs@custserv.com) Received: from bc008988.tcs.timeinc.com (unknown [10.176.156.68]) by linsmtp.tcs.timeinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F036A65E for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4A4A1A52.4040709@custserv.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:59:46 -0400 From: Mark Jacobs Organization: Time Customer Service User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090619) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: IDE Devices and FreeBSD 7.2 Release Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mark.jacobs@custserv.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:18:17 -0000 I just built a new computer with an ASUS P5Q Pro Turbo LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard and the install isn't seeing the IDE devices. I'm using the AMD64 DVD to install the OS. The computer sees both the 120GB IDE drive and the DVD drive, but FreeBSD only sees the six SATA drives once it boots off the DVD and I start the standard install process. The IDE HD and CD drives aren't seen. Any suggestions? -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL ---- Delenn, I have been working up a good mad all day and I am NOT about to let you ruin it by agreeing with me! Captain John Sheridan - Babylon 5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 14:24:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800211065676 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EA68FC0C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atomic.dyndns.org (athedsl-4493768.home.otenet.gr [94.71.93.208]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n5UEObdx004685 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:24:37 +0300 Message-ID: <4A4A2025.9020401@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:24:37 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:24:39 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased to announce a GNOME-based one. This includes a complete GNOME 2.26.2 desktop and also the gnome-power-tools and gnome-fifth-toe package collections. *Important:* There appears to be a problem with the package INDEX on the DVD that I have not been able to solve: Two packages are not selected as dependencies, although they are actually needed: * djbfft - Required for gnumeric * libdvdcss - Required for gnome multimedia packages (and yes I realize this package is probably in the 'grey area') Please select these packages manually from the "All" menu in Sysinstall's package selection screen. Failing to do so may cause installation of other packages to fail. Note this is a problem only if you install packages using Sysinstall. It is possible to install packages using pkg_add while in the /cdrom/packages/All directory without any problem. I did attempt to correct these but could not find a solution that would not cause other packages to fail (or even sysinstall to segfault). I am open to suggestions to anyone that can have a look. Other than XFCE being replaced by GNOME, the two DVDs are otherwise identical in packages. The OpenOffice packages already present for XFCE will also work with this build (both builds were run from the same ports tree). The main download page is: http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com/downloads-page As always, feedback is welcome. Manolis Kiagias -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpKICQACgkQZ/MxGm4PtJTW9gCcDhbo0J6uec1pQJHj/WUf91ui LHgAniVQONez3WkuwHiYUw0UjTeeSAq/ =rESc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 14:47:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B76A106564A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1C38FC16 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:47:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from vhoffman-macbook.local ([IPv6:2a02:2b8:1:21:216:cbff:fe89:6ac0]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n5UEocLu067544 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:50:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4A4A2592.3010208@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:47:46 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-GB; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20081204 Thunderbird/3.0b1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: f-q References: <20090624121036.GA3661@holstein.holy.cow> <20090630134251.GA4283@holstein.holy.cow> In-Reply-To: <20090630134251.GA4283@holstein.holy.cow> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: eSATA and/or Firewire 800|400 card, cardbus or expresscard 54mm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:47:51 -0000 On 30/6/09 14:42, parv@pair.com wrote: > In message <20090624121036.GA3661@holstein.holy.cow> on -mobile > list[0], I asked for suggestions for a firewire or eSATA card to be > put in Thinkpad T61 PCMCIA or EtherExpress slot, while most likely > running FreeBSD 7. > > After about 6 days getting no replies but still dwindling hard disk > space, where should I ask the question again: -hardware, -firewire, > -stable, here[1]? > > > The only one I have ever used was a cheapy one from deal extreme[0] This actually worked fine (minimal testing other than formatting and some file copies.) It was being picked up before the internal sata controller and reordering the drives which was a pain. I cant be sure if you would get one with the same chipset as me or anything though as its a noname brand from somewhere in china. Vince [0] http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.22074 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 15:19:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B46106564A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD238FC08 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so195845bwz.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:19:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sHlZ2VAmjyqRQOVEfeT3DThEjHAFRkcbHL3zxuihce0=; b=KIMdj++kjFTUYt2aiy1h5/IKYlEVAgnYzQSMo+RLimtrM0RkLMnEkxhqcyV2Aak8aY 0pm5Dj06Q3LTj4Y3h7rVfk1+zYreORocTMrxnFeRYWz7HryBo/+fYWxeqtUrIDhwaBd9 vFkc5ru1/tffTjaqHVfnZSm+Xs9C8LA1GKZuI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tHAFjecRLzL8+M5D/XIgXUBdtIgtZX9JgWA6ceDeCKVnepZW/Co0SiyFbW6O7F+oe5 71uI3dexOjUFomadGKCnjkXchaHPwObWsxRtzLgQC2KlW5hcC3v2NHIejcaknqklDTKG Sj1evV32SAH561eDcm2EnJo0aSa7yRBqnjhZI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.168.12 with SMTP id v12mr4953312muo.45.1246375179091; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:19:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A4A2025.9020401@otenet.gr> References: <4A4A2025.9020401@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:19:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Manolis Kiagias Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:19:40 -0000 2009/6/30 Manolis Kiagias : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hey all, > > Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased > to announce a GNOME-based one. > This includes a complete GNOME 2.26.2 desktop and also the > gnome-power-tools and gnome-fifth-toe package collections. > > As always, feedback is welcome. > > Manolis Kiagias It would be interesting to see how much demand exists for an installation DVD with KDE 3.5. (KDE lost a large amount of voter share in Linux Journal's last Readers' Choice Awards.) Does anyone know how long KDE 3.5 will be available in the ports? (Expecting its eventual demise, I switched to Gnome, then to XFCE4.) Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 15:30:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE631065672; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lopez.on.the.lists@yellowspace.net) Received: from mail.yellowspace.net (mail.yellowspace.net [80.190.200.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0968FC1C; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lopez.on.the.lists@yellowspace.net) Received: from [192.168.178.22] ([93.207.111.137]) (AUTH: CRAM-MD5 lopez.on.the.lists@yellowspace.net, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3, 128bits, AES128-SHA) by mail.yellowspace.net with esmtp; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:19:53 +0200 id 00495747.000000004A4A2D19.00007611 Message-Id: <0AB0471B-8C3C-422E-BFAB-49C5F89448E2@yellowspace.net> From: Lorenzo Perone To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek In-Reply-To: <20090628084957.GB4159@garage.freebsd.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:19:52 +0200 References: <20090625110253.GA31443@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <10FCC74D-6D46-4112-AD89-BBB4C5933957@mac.com> <2FFFB36F-EFA3-4D92-98A3-692BA2D6F63E@mac.com> <20090628084957.GB4159@garage.freebsd.pl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:30:02 -0000 Hi, > On 28.06.2009, at 10:49, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > >> .... I for one never put mirror on >> already partitioned disk. Although it is sometimes safe to use the >> last >> sector. Gjournal already looks for UFS and if UFS is in place, it >> figures out if the last sector is in use - it isn't if partition >> size is >> not multiple of UFS block size. >> does this actually also mean that gmirror used on a partition (eg mirroring two partitions of two different disks) is not recommended and is going to write its metadata always on the last sector of the disk, instead of the last sector of the partition? regards, Lorenzo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 15:45:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CF8106566C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f191.google.com (mail-px0-f191.google.com [209.85.216.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16458FC13 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by pxi29 with SMTP id 29so211332pxi.3 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:45:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kcQYaSEnZ6YAEIAbcbncUrBP7hDrKNFVK64GJpIvFSc=; b=owOQT9csEtzJqY0ImDRotSRHct8i14LcEvWON9jaiaMHQlGADzzAg5/yS4F2qPMDyn 6ROgl5NeR+vkalDR+XljsPYQMvbCpKEaTxhvjRii6x6SDsDkzmpj5q28IAy6XUu6vpMy O2vCo6Y/KD6kOG4XrXIQ5SPTk0ljGPIfBUfE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wrRtA8xx1wfgtjtXQcGXQGPNaUWVMFciaOXLvcI19kLOhLowq7LysRnLDOPlytvBBh NZh/0H3iIS/rANu7y4GqpAhcrRa5vsZbn+rWF7pVT5QfbMn0SNbVn8wzND6guNA6IBPR 82EWAy0oziw7GNDk28qVVIf5qrLCP3qwYbWjg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.200.14 with SMTP id x14mr2289152rvf.95.1246376732453; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:45:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A4A2025.9020401@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:45:32 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Andrew Gould Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:45:33 -0000 On 6/30/09, Andrew Gould wrote: > 2009/6/30 Manolis Kiagias : >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hey all, >> >> Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased >> to announce a GNOME-based one. >> This includes a complete GNOME 2.26.2 desktop and also the >> gnome-power-tools and gnome-fifth-toe package collections. >> >> As always, feedback is welcome. >> >> Manolis Kiagias > > It would be interesting to see how much demand exists for an > installation DVD with KDE 3.5. (KDE lost a large amount of voter > share in Linux Journal's last Readers' Choice Awards.) > > Does anyone know how long KDE 3.5 will be available in the ports? > (Expecting its eventual demise, I switched to Gnome, then to XFCE4.) > > Andrew When I run KDE, I run KDE4. I'm not asking for someone to generate a KDE3.5 or KDE4 install medium, but where is the line? If we make XFCE4, and Gnome2.26, why not Enlightenment, Blackbox, KDE3.5, KDE4, etc etc etc? Earlier, I made hints at a webGUI install (the install medium would boot into X, basic setup (VESA driver @1024x768, 24 [or 16bit] depth)), run firefox or another lightweight browser (even lynx in the console if X fails to start) on it's own filesystem or over apache. Once network configuration is done, you can pull the data sets for your choice of WM from the internet. I think this has potential, and would offer making it (already started on it), but I think my statements went on deaf ears when addressed to the broad public. So I'll ask again if anyone else would be interested in this. The advantage is that on this webGUI install, you can offer it (secured of course) over the internet for someone more technical to do the install or configuring, including the same post-install configuration that sysinstall offers. Anybody else think it's a good idea? Willing to take suggestions. Would satisfy my "designing" and "creativity" mindset I'm in right now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 15:56:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B62F106564A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83128FC13 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so100620qwd.7 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:56:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RAsHh13M8GE/GbYO+OibPRCWnAFYzMcazJQSj3p7RPY=; b=R6fsmM5EgF9m9jFtWCLuDWSBCOCkLBw+RWNN9AJvmAlxjEFeQHzfbsk9b0shtvMj8a PWQifqbhkiBA6x6Kl5hB1gZKt/+ErYckcGTSkV0B35yj6Kaymd4KO+bHU/5Q9+ehFBEd M+Ji5L1qKXQ4ZrAv2QrgiBccEDwR3/Jygh4rk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fmJolC6Dzd0kvpc68jhlXJUcugUbocaWNsqEdFi5AcHA/PvYi5W5vHyBjNN4/jgIia hbqLm5la6tucqXv6l6IIZb1cjZelhiNyp4JcfAZ/4flCJZ5HnVf45MKARuL0KgDZ3PCK TSNka0wzmtzzlat4Vl5+yAxNqwVNvCSI/S8jc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.96.13 with SMTP id f13mr2117312qcn.36.1246377390156; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:56:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <26face530906281331q50afe3dela4886e2120104b74@mail.gmail.com> References: <26face530906281331q50afe3dela4886e2120104b74@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:56:30 -0700 Message-ID: <26face530906300856o765882d9y5f9eed1e3b696d09@mail.gmail.com> From: Kelly Jones To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Using ctorrent or other program to seed a torrent X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:56:31 -0000 Thanks to everyone who helped. A couple of clarifications: % I'm not trying to share a file I downloaded. This is a file I created from scratch. % I don't want to seed for just 12 hours. I want to seed for days, maybe even weeks or months. % I don't necessarily want to run a tracker. I'm happy to use a public tracker like thepiratebay.org. I just want to seed the file. Is ctorrent the wrong program for this? Is there a better program to seed torrents? -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. On 6/28/09, Kelly Jones wrote: > I know how to use ctorrent to create a torrent file, but how do I > actually seed the resulting file so that others can get it, and how do > I 'register' myself w/ a tracker so that others will know what IP > address to connect to, etc? > > Can ctorrent seed torrents, or do I need another program for that? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 15:59:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD631065700 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC71F8FC23 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so221995bwz.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:59:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0QIgicW2l3JifbsJRj6YAGPVLbtNARzX6bSbzK67ZDo=; b=Rb5N5q+ZxNw2IOKA3NWct2ufhp8q10xMxRIJcawdPcXlY3bv/FgppVcnKA7tvSCzlk 3nu2sd+KBI4A1O3bLQDKewDaUs/aFMYYeFfSgu0qpnxTmslwYaJQN3CfIrFLL0js7d1W NxcBstEDQy0fowlav6aSEqZwwa+/5sdt1DQfI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UpqKWJKwSndDO5a9G9TFcpJd5wEdTJdkPzwsn13LhF5BxRyvoMdmWMHs4O2jMNK70s nFV7KY50wXBuiyVnR8d/T1RiAwOsK52aDOUKFsi3BvXlk/L26/DiWdAflBOADXzflTvq is7hc+95mstLYFovZ7a313qxB0umBNGYocvQA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.118.207 with SMTP id w15mr8545209bkq.126.1246377581322; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:59:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A4A2025.9020401@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:59:41 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310906300859m74a6967vdbf74b984f8a316c@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Tim Judd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Manolis Kiagias , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:59:43 -0000 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Tim Judd wrote: >> >> It would be interesting to see how much demand exists for an >> installation DVD with KDE 3.5. =A0(KDE lost a large amount of voter >> share in Linux Journal's last Readers' Choice Awards.) >> [snip] > > When I run KDE, I run KDE4. =A0I'm not asking for someone to generate a > KDE3.5 or KDE4 install medium, but where is the line? > > If we make XFCE4, and Gnome2.26, why not Enlightenment, Blackbox, > KDE3.5, KDE4, etc etc etc? > > If I remember correctly, there already are two of these [1][2], soon to be followed by a third [3]. > > Earlier, I made hints at a webGUI install (the install medium would > boot into X, basic setup (VESA driver @1024x768, 24 [or 16bit] > depth)), run firefox or another lightweight browser (even lynx in the > console if X fails to start) on it's own filesystem or over apache. > Once network configuration is done, you can pull the data sets for > your choice of WM from the internet. > > > I think this has potential, and would offer making it (already started > on it), but I think my statements went on deaf ears when addressed to > the broad public. > > So I'll ask again if anyone else would be interested in this. =A0The > advantage is that on this webGUI install, you can offer it (secured of > course) over the internet for someone more technical to do the install > or configuring, including the same post-install configuration that > sysinstall offers. > I like the idea, but wouldn't you need console access to get the network configured? Unless I am misunderstanding your intention, it appears you are replacing ssh access with apacheXX (or lighttpd, etc). I like the idea, otherwise. [1] - http://pcbsd.org/ [2] - http://www.desktopbsd.net/ [3] - http://www.tomahawkcomputers.com/ --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 16:27:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F4D106564A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F178FC18 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFAD23DAF; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:27:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5UGQvRC001715; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:26:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:26:57 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Tim Judd Message-Id: <20090630182657.32644a23.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4A4A2025.9020401@otenet.gr> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Andrew Gould , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:27:05 -0000 On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:45:32 -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > Earlier, I made hints at a webGUI install (the install medium would > boot into X, basic setup (VESA driver @1024x768, 24 [or 16bit] > depth)), Why not a choice, 800x600 for laptops with smaller screen (or in 16:9 format for "modern" laptops) - or try to autodetect what is REALLY on the screen (instead of assuming a "standard")? Just a polite idea. > run firefox or another lightweight browser You're a funny guy. :-) When talking about lightweight browser in X, strangely "dillo" comes to my mind. Yes, I know, it's quite limited, but... > (even lynx in the > console if X fails to start) Very good idea. > on it's own filesystem or over apache. > Once network configuration is done, you can pull the data sets for > your choice of WM from the internet. A kind of "preview screenshot" would be good - you know, users judge from first sight primarily. :-) > I think this has potential, and would offer making it (already started > on it), but I think my statements went on deaf ears when addressed to > the broad public. Hmmm... I don't think so. In my opinion, it's a very good idea. You're offering functionality (like "preinstalled and preconfigured") in a matter that only PC-BSD serves today, and for PC-BSD, you need quite modern hardware. It's not usable for older systems, and you know how fast today's systems are considered "older". > So I'll ask again if anyone else would be interested in this. Yes, if you include WindowMaker and support for a Sun keyboard. :-) No, honestly; as much as I think you are bringing a good idea into life, I prefer to completely install systems myself. The chance that anything that I do not need to be included is too high. Of course, you are aware that you cannot cater all kinds of intentions with only one solution, that's impossible. But as I said, that's only my own, unimportant point of view. > The > advantage is that on this webGUI install, you can offer it (secured of > course) over the internet for someone more technical to do the install > or configuring, including the same post-install configuration that > sysinstall offers. This would be very interesting as long as it does not require too much additional services to be included and run. > Anybody else think it's a good idea? At least an interesting idea, and this is what counts. "Good" is always defined from the viewer's site. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 16:30:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1901065670 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f191.google.com (mail-px0-f191.google.com [209.85.216.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6868FC0A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by pxi29 with SMTP id 29so244037pxi.3 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:30:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zb++xbR6Vnmy+DxGaArxQWt53e7WY28VsSgriY50/6M=; b=TkYmDB3XO0oXzgUG3F0qQ2qquMmm2M2FBuW5z/B04R/+onYFORPGDEnguhQiYG0ybG 3qDqIhfa/DQynKXb8gGq8mJG+SbvOwZWPonI3OxJWKSJILM2V3dsmPKH8l/l+d8BPsJf s2vqnLcoKiahRsIigOUV5d28SAZ7QuPyNKNGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BqEd/w7zBQghBT08GIk0rNFfn5tBPMByF4UwSlMwtDD+8kgXaEx6p4Lu9qbm09YcW/ VRNLtgs2ff4we47SIpqaNp6EzaclXW2NEUy1VHkOI5u8fJ1O3Fx41Xn2RcnMrV4OVv4X GeESyFKhX6JrK0iPky7846IsoE5PEMB84O1Ro= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.12.15 with SMTP id p15mr1582735rvi.275.1246379436070; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:30:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310906300859m74a6967vdbf74b984f8a316c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A4A2025.9020401@otenet.gr> <4ad871310906300859m74a6967vdbf74b984f8a316c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:30:35 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:30:37 -0000 On 6/30/09, Glen Barber wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Tim Judd wrote: >>> >>> It would be interesting to see how much demand exists for an >>> installation DVD with KDE 3.5. (KDE lost a large amount of voter >>> share in Linux Journal's last Readers' Choice Awards.) >>> > > [snip] > >> >> When I run KDE, I run KDE4. I'm not asking for someone to generate a >> KDE3.5 or KDE4 install medium, but where is the line? >> >> If we make XFCE4, and Gnome2.26, why not Enlightenment, Blackbox, >> KDE3.5, KDE4, etc etc etc? >> >> > > If I remember correctly, there already are two of these [1][2], soon > to be followed by a third [3]. Manolis has made [1] and [2], and I just am starting to wonder where the line will be drawn. Not that I ask for a line to be drawn, rather if it's going to go on forever with 20 (or 20^20) choices for the end user to make. We already have people asking on IRC which ISO to use. > >> >> Earlier, I made hints at a webGUI install (the install medium would >> boot into X, basic setup (VESA driver @1024x768, 24 [or 16bit] >> depth)), run firefox or another lightweight browser (even lynx in the >> console if X fails to start) on it's own filesystem or over apache. >> Once network configuration is done, you can pull the data sets for >> your choice of WM from the internet. >> >> >> I think this has potential, and would offer making it (already started >> on it), but I think my statements went on deaf ears when addressed to >> the broad public. >> >> So I'll ask again if anyone else would be interested in this. The >> advantage is that on this webGUI install, you can offer it (secured of >> course) over the internet for someone more technical to do the install >> or configuring, including the same post-install configuration that >> sysinstall offers. >> > > I like the idea, but wouldn't you need console access to get the > network configured? Unless I am misunderstanding your intention, it > appears you are replacing ssh access with apacheXX (or lighttpd, etc). > I like the idea, otherwise. Well, you have to slap in the CD to the drive, right? Let it bootup, do simple net config (if needed) then tell the remote end "Preconfigured with IP x.x.x.x and authentication xuser pass xpass." The issue will be after install and it gets restarted, will the CD boot again and be stuck in that loop. This is the same problem as the existing sysinstall CDs that you have to eject it before it boots again. the NT boot CDs from 2000 onward have a nice function that if the cd is selected to boot, and it times out, it forces (doesn't return control to the BIOS) a HDD boot. Maybe we need to come up with a cd bootloader that accomplishes similar task? Would be a nice boost to the community not to have a stuck CD and not a running OS. As for the actual commands to execute to get this configured, since it's a liveCD, my first thought process to get the tasks done are to SUID the binaries to root, and post-install, the binaries are they're normal binaries. My webpages are never designed as eyecandy. rather they're very boring white page with a form. It's lynx compatible too, after all. > > [1] - http://pcbsd.org/ > [2] - http://www.desktopbsd.net/ > [3] - http://www.tomahawkcomputers.com/ > > -- > Glen Barber > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 16:41:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19816106568C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDD58FC1A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so96721and.13 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:41:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Cs8VYMfc7Nnd/PmWma45p7o9tOCTnCFKahr1Itjqtq0=; b=rXgCYkrQQdu+aflwoCqliborzMyF2teUVw+9qoBMS1M5zleBYk9fUdg3WTRTCDhKqp YmhYOVBjh8MeV4dzNcnG4iRzf/yD0kB2SqUEwbOFn6Gyq3S8SCzCWbSdpfjc71JJpW+K do9a21UNdiLjXB0FUpBt7blj5aHjKgwsvQux4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=c5HZPP8C+mZSBoen3Xd4wkoVdEAyfk9zXM35X6L+6XFGdA7fQJ9fPRYglVi8KTgxin YOGZMq8BrUi5HzaYsWU1YLNhP4VPuEDjOic9Ijrd29dH+JJ7HDth6hdCtfvczjxEFJGs pBrTW7OaTeUJxebUPDMTGhdoNPCUtmIb1E0Pg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.227.18 with SMTP id z18mr11569371ang.49.1246378341191; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:12:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3c0b01820906300912m44612e4eg6c9210b0f4507603@mail.gmail.com> From: Alexander Sack To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Older FreeBSD reorders my disk nodes, can't mount root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:41:34 -0000 Hello, Has anyone installed FreeBSD 4.2-i386 on a system connected to an external SAN via isp(4) (QLA2342)? My main issue is reordering of da nodes. I have both an Intel and IBM server which I do an install onto the internal Adaptec controller. After install, I then connect the SAN and soft reboot. The good news is that it sees the volumes but I get dumped into the mountroot prompt. Okay, no big deal. My da's in the fstab were reordered so I try to find it by mounting s1a from the other da nodes and no matter what I choose I can not mount root. I can't see the exact disk because dmesg scrolls by too fast but based on the number of da's, it seems to have found both the internal Adaptec and external SAN via the QLogic 23xx card. I tried every node but nothing mounts (I get either 6 or 22 I forgot off hand). Has anyone seen this before? If I disconnect the SAN, the box mounts root normally via the da0s1a node which is the first disk off the Adaptec SCSI controller (dual-channel U320). I believe there is no glabel here so I can't label anything (is there a way to use the packid off the old disklabel utility?). Thanks! -aps PS Please don't ask me why I have to use 4.2, I just do! :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 16:56:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CC91065670 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1114E8FC16 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:56:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2192E24747; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:56:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5UGu4Df001936; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:56:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:56:04 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Alexander Sack Message-Id: <20090630185604.af734532.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <3c0b01820906300912m44612e4eg6c9210b0f4507603@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c0b01820906300912m44612e4eg6c9210b0f4507603@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Older FreeBSD reorders my disk nodes, can't mount root X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:56:12 -0000 On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:12:19 -0400, Alexander Sack wrote: > Okay, no big deal. My da's in the fstab were reordered so I try to > find it by mounting s1a from the other da nodes and no matter what I > choose I can not mount root. I can't see the exact disk because dmesg > scrolls by too fast but based on the number of da's, it seems to have > found both the internal Adaptec and external SAN via the QLogic 23xx > card. I tried every node but nothing mounts (I get either 6 or 22 I > forgot off hand). For "scrolls too fast": Use the Scroll Lock key, then the cursor and page scrolling keys to see the messages that went off the screen. For reordering: Does the 4.x kernel already have ATA_STATIC_ID? Maybe this applies to your problem. I'm not running such a setting, so this is only a wild guess. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 17:01:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982CE106564A; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tabthorpe@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f186.google.com (mail-qy0-f186.google.com [209.85.221.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC6E8FC08; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tabthorpe@gmail.com) Received: by qyk16 with SMTP id 16so303895qyk.3 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:01:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:reply-to:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/6qdVd5VhaaS8da5xG7Hdie3lBzM9QfniEWb1yWgIPQ=; b=VrH6UIP7iPyLyIIS3IT0f9G+suUqKEG7RBfACUfVT0eT2X2BxzJUAZTPuQcq4C5A29 U6sx/h6bIzeiyAVkqXlotYKbyZQF0YcjG1VOdCnESZEckTU+0ksebKgz2uLBtKBmvdZd JnMHDMmXeKutqt+awfLySrjOdT5nK2xC3iV+A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=fgMFRbhOWEd5J5TTngBXwqUWgbD59vNaG2oQBdvehRAN+DqSg3JdOxnVHz5l4WWdKY FtGme3WtYD89O8e04UdUuuCeykdLbnb0Pvy0l/t98I8mqmXMFUzI3WoZT3jcr4h2VGlr ejXCNMpQkARI2o/D639X3HR/2oYUVovYJauxk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tabthorpe@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.54.76 with SMTP id p12mr3610815qag.211.1246379521005; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:32:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A4A2025.9020401@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:32:00 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cf2db25e836d798c Message-ID: <3f6a88120906300932k5bcf5d4fj40810d7786145848@mail.gmail.com> From: Thomas Abthorpe To: Andrew Gould , Manolis Kiagias , FreeBSD Questions , kde@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tabthorpe@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:01:15 -0000 At this time KDE has not announced an EOL on 3.5. That said, you will likely see it in the tree through the end of 2009. HTH Thomas On 30/06/2009, Andrew Gould wrote: > 2009/6/30 Manolis Kiagias : >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hey all, >> >> Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased >> to announce a GNOME-based one. >> This includes a complete GNOME 2.26.2 desktop and also the >> gnome-power-tools and gnome-fifth-toe package collections. >> >> As always, feedback is welcome. >> >> Manolis Kiagias > > It would be interesting to see how much demand exists for an > installation DVD with KDE 3.5. (KDE lost a large amount of voter > share in Linux Journal's last Readers' Choice Awards.) > > Does anyone know how long KDE 3.5 will be available in the ports? > (Expecting its eventual demise, I switched to Gnome, then to XFCE4.) > > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Sent from my mobile device Thomas Abthorpe, FreeBSD Ports Committer tabthorpe@FreeBSD.org, http://people.freebsd.org/~tabthorpe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 17:15:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F640106566C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:15:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raszobbi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C148FC0A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raszobbi@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so267160bwz.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:15:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vHrgVHqAws/Fu5TYjExkXu1L2i4rAdTY60PeUYFJfSA=; b=TQt03t9HChyBeIyvs8zmpcpd6XvmILTjQi01/fGdwWuUm0g62zG6gimetRnUQhjY9T i+sUReU4ai89BNLSpAKYlajRuTxHxfNvVVpl9Sr1mdG7seJXXAXbB77Yx8UmJd3VUrZX 4esRoaknumzX1THpvy8c9Gl2GRWDDRadLfQ0w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Pt1mpURIIi8Mrrme8Xyye6KqLiZ4ZBFVNO9n+miDiURP/W57Rgw2yR87l1rwG0r+oF CxHUhpaMyO6z7KiIqWd1WNxKzBYwC4ts3HF53Fy2gVjtuXAlXFG8P3HUyVCA4pa6DW8g cXIECSmybLAH0o8fY98pdgs34t+WopaoCmTRE= Received: by 10.204.117.142 with SMTP id r14mr8430297bkq.197.1246380909042; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ilras.barsh.com (c66-139.i05-17.onvol.net [88.203.66.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y15sm352321fkd.47.2009.06.30.09.55.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A4A435F.3060902@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:54:55 +0200 From: ras User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090628) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <4A4A2025.9020401@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <4A4A2025.9020401@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:15:34 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hey all, > > Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased > to announce a GNOME-based one. > > hi, is this like a normal freebsd install + gnome, or OS with custom system setup, automatic updates and such? (either is fine, not complaining, just curious before i dl) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 17:32:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77201065792 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336658FC19 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:32:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so279358fxm.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:32:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3GX7TXG/b7j+VRafy1z1UaOdTVlwvIzNU+PQ/tV0bJo=; b=wOvRseMHR584AT9Xf7QWtan0BsQ0voU8Ug1C4F2r0flWqzjLAnIWYBnoz4Asjjjuj/ uaa8copzU0piQhgoZBajUtYTLNVghkiLHQsZkdhRgJ50Jf/Mzdnc/WIj1BrPcjPTSPTy 1IGBFOQrJqBK3GFU4AHIapmDx2058OQnLAwDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fy9ogXb3GxYh955ixfJvvRaO/PdPd+53nn27ZX9FhyjafqckabYva2zXp3N9eOwJhF E9kUYCOlbMIx7W6LAZP8KEYLCPa4rt6PLpP1PpRpHbeDtZzEldkh+RoUYiFrvQOWezaP atC60LRnJeOHZtIY7ywjicNr1U4xiD0m/0KUo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.251.13 with SMTP id d13mr4958942mus.114.1246383174110; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:32:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3f6a88120906300932k5bcf5d4fj40810d7786145848@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A4A2025.9020401@otenet.gr> <3f6a88120906300932k5bcf5d4fj40810d7786145848@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:32:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: tabthorpe@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Manolis Kiagias , FreeBSD Questions , kde@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:32:56 -0000 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Thomas Abthorpe wrote: > At this time KDE has not announced an EOL on 3.5. That said, you will > likely see it in the tree through the end of 2009. > > HTH > > > Thomas Yes. Thanks. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 17:47:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5847F106566C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-out2.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-OUT2.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00D88FC0A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,317,1243807200"; d="scan'208";a="217476117" Received: from zivmaildisp2.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER05.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.143]) by zivm-relay2.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 30 Jun 2009 19:47:35 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER05.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id 3E5EB1B07E4; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:47:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:47:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: strange ee behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:47:37 -0000 hi there, i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i open `ee` in an xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to enter commands which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee was running on the output is a mess. i'm running r195173 (HEAD). cheers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 18:28:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2605106567C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:28:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509BD8FC16 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:28:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atomic.dyndns.org (athedsl-4493768.home.otenet.gr [94.71.93.208]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n5UISCaS028736; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:28:12 +0300 Message-ID: <4A4A593C.2050604@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:28:12 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ras References: <4A4A2025.9020401@otenet.gr> <4A4A435F.3060902@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A4A435F.3060902@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:28:15 -0000 ras wrote: > Manolis Kiagias wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hey all, >> >> Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased >> to announce a GNOME-based one. >> >> > hi, is this like a normal freebsd install + gnome, or OS with custom > system setup, automatic updates and such? (either is fine, not > complaining, just curious before i dl) Yes, like standard FreeBSD disc, sysinstall and all. The only differences are a) the selection of packages (different - more recent versions) b) the base system is 7.2-RELEASE-p2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 18:41:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E9F1065673 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com (mail-gx0-f210.google.com [209.85.217.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122498FC22 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:41:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so456926gxk.19 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:41:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lYuctk2w6sJTvwtEh3OnCBeBXhfkEsmuhjXtiBE4wf4=; b=nfuXYV2W/tz0eqMv9WvOY394Wsd/ChUqA6nlhkpcHJe/iU076ZrgYT0lNFq686vI5Q 4p6vtPKLoUtJJnx57LddsmU1RueZMwVHvG5+HaW+/6o0Pr+f0p/IWtNjC+oGbpFyGWvo ua6rg8VVWN/jpqpeXuAQvM0IIXcDJKK6/ksNQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Y5oZPCOTXAWkNPRA80CBTyN26CBYOgZZqJl1+sbxEjruGzD01bBIexcrcxpamjFAP6 uzGddLJEekWFObOLFBs+EBo0YR/CGCrPFDipYGHZjV+8Fqcwk8NwPq+TSR/Gmmkjl5IF d6iKDt53y/DLIgL1juAwYNlPJpKqXHEYqkeic= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.19.140 with SMTP id a12mr1660088ibb.22.1246387306665; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:41:46 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: WebInstaller (was: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:41:50 -0000 On 6/30/09, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:45:32 -0600, Tim Judd wrote: >> Earlier, I made hints at a webGUI install (the install medium would >> boot into X, basic setup (VESA driver @1024x768, 24 [or 16bit] >> depth)), > > Why not a choice, 800x600 for laptops with smaller screen (or > in 16:9 format for "modern" laptops) - or try to autodetect what > is REALLY on the screen (instead of assuming a "standard")? > Just a polite idea. > A 800x600 resolution is just too crowded when you try to make a system on it. I think there's more 1024x768 resolutions than 800x600. If 1024x768 doesn't work, we revert back to a console tty? I have said nothing firm as in "it's this way or no way".. I'm just trying to see reasonable defaults. > > >> run firefox or another lightweight browser > > You're a funny guy. :-) > > When talking about lightweight browser in X, strangely "dillo" comes > to my mind. Yes, I know, it's quite limited, but... And I didn't mention dillo because I don't use it or have ever seen it. "lightweight" to me is lynx. Standard is Opera, and "commonplace" is Firefox. I also have to take consideration for the scripting (if any) the installer does has to be supported by the javascript engine in the browser. So the off-the-wall browsers who aren't up with the rest of the big boys are likely to cause problems. Again, ideas and suggestions all around. Hrm.. maybe I should open up a poll/voting website that would allow this. > > > >> (even lynx in the >> console if X fails to start) > > Very good idea. > > > >> on it's own filesystem or over apache. >> Once network configuration is done, you can pull the data sets for >> your choice of WM from the internet. > > A kind of "preview screenshot" would be good - you know, users judge > from first sight primarily. :-) > Nice point. I'll have to think of a way to get this considered. a JPG would be nice, up until the X fails to start. :D I need input here: If said chosen WM is unsatisfactory to the user, how the heck can I offer a reconfiguration window? sysinstall was built with a different mindset, so we can't easily use sysinstall. If we boot off CD, we run off CD and install base off CD and WM off Internet. Post install config would be what.. Internet web/gui based? that is, the REAL Internet? Options, brainstorming please. > > >> I think this has potential, and would offer making it (already started >> on it), but I think my statements went on deaf ears when addressed to >> the broad public. > > Hmmm... I don't think so. In my opinion, it's a very good idea. > You're offering functionality (like "preinstalled and preconfigured") > in a matter that only PC-BSD serves today, and for PC-BSD, you need > quite modern hardware. It's not usable for older systems, and you > know how fast today's systems are considered "older". > well, a project like SETI@home that compiles desktop environments that stores on a central server is a dream in the works, will that work? i don't know enough programming to make that work. :( > > >> So I'll ask again if anyone else would be interested in this. > > Yes, if you include WindowMaker and support for a Sun keyboard. :-) > No, honestly; as much as I think you are bringing a good idea into > life, I prefer to completely install systems myself. The chance > that anything that I do not need to be included is too high. Of > course, you are aware that you cannot cater all kinds of intentions > with only one solution, that's impossible. But as I said, that's > only my own, unimportant point of view. WindowMaker? sure. Sun keyboard? no, absolutely not. My way, or no way. :D what do you mean by "completely install systems myself" -- that's what you're doing. You're installing a -RELEASE aren't you? you're installing a software kit that will eventually be referred to a package once it's stored on your system... Gets a big chunk out of the way. Personally, and this is for the archives, when I setup a box. I like it to be up quick. install -RELEASE. freebsd-update. pkg_add -r . port{upgrade,master}. Now you have a functioning install in less time than windows takes to install and update. :D > > > >> The >> advantage is that on this webGUI install, you can offer it (secured of >> course) over the internet for someone more technical to do the install >> or configuring, including the same post-install configuration that >> sysinstall offers. > > This would be very interesting as long as it does not require too > much additional services to be included and run. > http Basic authentication, maybe over a self-signed SSL connection. It's not like a VPN, with certificates, blowfish encryption. It's a limited life system that needs to be as secure as long as it takes to install. > > >> Anybody else think it's a good idea? > > At least an interesting idea, and this is what counts. "Good" is > always defined from the viewer's site. > > Very good point. pun intended. :) your input is appreciated. thanks. > > > > -- > Polytropon > From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 20:02:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44888106567A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raszobbi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9858FC1B for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raszobbi@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so357462bwz.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:01:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wGolMPgl+ERErOCP1fcWKqZ69cnf0GadVmFVQZBBjTM=; b=feTMXaF3FtD67gdshLqqzM58FIOaK71Pqo9AGsrsV/wsBp1MD26uCUJmpURouG+sNW +gB94nlsN73lket6q1G8nsv2mXBlMX53jjHwuUAD1X6gPXDzHgEG7Shw1ewlZHn84uck wITmuA76ubHEl0jfK8i6BnMA3FU3tMtsb3oOM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QohDTOmR1PZUBgDEXQ/1zqXU/WQ933rkfj8fA/bdxiAuknSi/3wybyDJEp5smYvsMG yDaOY1mMoEJ2RZgwUSFtwdTdRxqDUIKsBMjgIrmdJ2iaMCJVMBRX1Cd9kXldIE14ras+ qioi7CoBTLopdCyeG8AC8SOwYG+57JCoYlrkk= Received: by 10.204.98.141 with SMTP id q13mr8684902bkn.188.1246392119639; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ilras.barsh.com (c66-139.i05-17.onvol.net [88.203.66.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y15sm619175fkd.47.2009.06.30.13.01.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A4A6EF7.8090704@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:00:55 +0200 From: ras User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090628) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <4A4A2025.9020401@otenet.gr> <4A4A435F.3060902@gmail.com> <4A4A593C.2050604@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <4A4A593C.2050604@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:02:01 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > ras wrote: > >> Manolis Kiagias wrote: >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased >>> to announce a GNOME-based one. >>> >>> >>> >> hi, is this like a normal freebsd install + gnome, or OS with custom >> system setup, automatic updates and such? (either is fine, not >> complaining, just curious before i dl) >> > > Yes, like standard FreeBSD disc, sysinstall and all. The only > differences are a) the selection of packages (different - more recent > versions) b) the base system is 7.2-RELEASE-p2 > > thanks. meanwhile i read some info on the site and got the general idea. i am thinking this will be very handy for installing fbsd on my netbook, compaq mini. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 20:19:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955291065673 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6548FC15 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729833CE67; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:19:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5UKJOnG003778; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:19:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:19:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Tim Judd Message-Id: <20090630221924.67fddb55.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: WebInstaller (was: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:19:32 -0000 On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:41:46 -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > A 800x600 resolution is just too crowded when you try to make a system > on it. It's no problem when you run the browser without title line, menu bar, icon bar, other bars, and status line. You don't need to make all the text in 100pt letters. :-) > I think there's more 1024x768 resolutions than 800x600. Don't assume anything. Test for it. > If > 1024x768 doesn't work, we revert back to a console tty? I have said > nothing firm as in "it's this way or no way".. I'm just trying to see > reasonable defaults. Default = use what's present - the easiest way in my opinion. > And I didn't mention dillo because I don't use it or have ever seen > it. "lightweight" to me is lynx. Yes, complete agree. > > A kind of "preview screenshot" would be good - you know, users judge > > from first sight primarily. :-) > > > > Nice point. I'll have to think of a way to get this considered. a > JPG would be nice, up until the X fails to start. :D You know HTML? img src="some_image.jpg" alt="image of XFCE desktop" longdesc="The XFCE desktop looks very nice, it has lots of icons, and some windows are opened." :-) > I need input here: > If said chosen WM is unsatisfactory to the user, how the heck can I > offer a reconfiguration window? sysinstall was built with a different > mindset, so we can't easily use sysinstall. Selection of window manager is usually done through user's .xinitrc. In case of xdm used, .xsession (which can incorporate .xinitrc). Doesn't work for KDE and Gnome because they bring their own replacements for xdm, i. e. kdm and gdm; all of them involve changes in /etc/ttys. > > Yes, if you include WindowMaker and support for a Sun keyboard. :-) > > No, honestly; as much as I think you are bringing a good idea into > > life, I prefer to completely install systems myself. The chance > > that anything that I do not need to be included is too high. Of > > course, you are aware that you cannot cater all kinds of intentions > > with only one solution, that's impossible. But as I said, that's > > only my own, unimportant point of view. > > WindowMaker? sure. Sun keyboard? no, absolutely not. My way, or no way. :D I've got a 122 key IBM model M, too. How about that? :-) > what do you mean by "completely install systems myself" -- that's > what you're doing. You're installing a -RELEASE aren't you? you're > installing a software kit that will eventually be referred to a > package once it's stored on your system... Gets a big chunk out of > the way. Exactly. I usually go with the install CD for the base system, then pkg_add -r for the applications. Compile only for mplayer (due to options). Then some configuration work (usually done with samples from previous systems), and then use. Install once, use then. I know this makes me look like a very lazy guy. :-) > Personally, and this is for the archives, when I setup a box. I like > it to be up quick. If I want this, I simply take an already installed system, use dump and restore, and then do the changes that are neccessary, like reconfiguring X and network settings. As I said, I'm lazy, and this way is quite fast. > install -RELEASE. freebsd-update. pkg_add -r > . port{upgrade,master}. Now you have a functioning install > in less time than windows takes to install and update. :D Yes, that is true. And it will continue working much longer than "Windows" will even exist. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 20:25:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C0F1065674 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B568FC21 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so499843ewy.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:25:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FSz5va3+AOMyIMTsqgZAGHvtQNGruPjmfd4q241GBnI=; b=jbauNPC8LTLlpLpo84ViRMtEcHXWxnPEjRxseH5TbidGqbiWewilghJ4DEqyFO8TxI kBMCgOuVQ4Tkyu4MYwpuN7m665PUcUc5pI5OZUsvKqbs7JAmZSUybsBXFZlMHNxPhDlQ W3MXDDxyC7yIVVsAHO4TABoCS2lYMKvYIdpZ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Du13ilA2Eyadoqp61VdzXasrYU+/qzwUWyC+3KK0CpV2T681o1UI5L0K7qFV2R3O8g Mw0fWLLSBjXRPK73dqichv96xB+I0fGyITZjemyixjRlIepUx4AwkahQbITEwh85iML5 WZQ+YFn5Fyj/itH/DVMtJ833YA2UrkhzuZOYA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.28.85 with SMTP id f63mr2517041wea.142.1246393518151; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:25:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <26face530906281331q50afe3dela4886e2120104b74@mail.gmail.com> References: <26face530906281331q50afe3dela4886e2120104b74@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:25:17 -0400 Message-ID: <54db43990906301325g63fe3f96t3ba188767fc1c7d0@mail.gmail.com> From: Bob Johnson To: Kelly Jones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using ctorrent or other program to seed a torrent X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:25:20 -0000 On 6/28/09, Kelly Jones wrote: > I know how to use ctorrent to create a torrent file, but how do I > actually seed the resulting file so that others can get it, and how do > I 'register' myself w/ a tracker so that others will know what IP > address to connect to, etc? I haven't done it in a while, but after you create the .torrent file, you upload the .torrent file to the tracker. That's basically all the "registration" you need to do. The .torrent file contains the information other clients need to download the file. You then start seeding the file with your client, which connects to the tracker and advertises the availability of the file. To seed the file, you basically just do exactly what you would do if you were trying to download the torrent, using the -E or -e option to specify how long you want to seed after the download completes. You should run ctorrent in the directory where you created the torrent (or at least in a directory with a copy of the file and the .torrent file), so it will already have the "downloaded" file. Seeding will begin as soon as it gets itself organized. I THINK that -e 0 will cause it to seed forever, but if not, -e 9999 will give you more than a year. I used to use -e 999, which is a little over 41 days. If you want it to get out of your way and hide in the background, run it as a daemon, e.g.: ctorrent -d -e 9999 nameoffile.torrent > > Can ctorrent seed torrents, or do I need another program for that? Yes, ctorrent automatically seeds for 72 hours after it finishes the download, and you can adjust that. -- Bob Johnson fbsdlists@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 20:40:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633D91065673 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98048FC16 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so382339fxm.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:40:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=N/+cFK0In0C+PeCNLEUjlfvMTk9CVJHpolJbqGDg49s=; b=fWdmcWgbauKw+2QaZWhtsOKFUOZKqGXkOi0cw5qwARxpb0YSSjuyvnKW/amZfJcMv7 /vw04wKnyY4flu9ElI/QF5TPcG9yXGz3ghkFXGPk8/RMcQ1nyl3DPiUDEhqjC0Jfbmzo /NffbxCWXaUzUdGrUOgCzNzpFECZt/5VEjH7I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=KLR4+OrDxzAtqlbv3lb+pkCYnj9a0Ss8RT+SChl3mrwsRf/LzG1lGTBWnrQsKkH+wC ukelQrJIJmv7iTP5H58Pmqn4E+Y+H6vDTQTKqGWkjGQeKdcMd1bBlfXg2UAPnehJtj1I M49tDanfjZSC3VIbyaug1naAvPern/n7bK/jk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.168.12 with SMTP id v12mr5149799muo.130.1246394452807; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:40:52 +0200 Message-ID: From: Stefan Miklosovic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: seti@home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:40:54 -0000 hi all, I would like to install seti@home client to my machine, There are tutorials on internet how to install it, but it is all about package called simply "setiathome". I dont see such package in a port tree. I was searching for similar one, it seems I found it : /usr/ports/astro/boinc-setiathome-enhanced If i go to install it, it is about instaling ~30 ports as well, most of them is xorg related. I do not want to install these X related packages at all. It seems futile to having written "WITHOUT_X11=yes" in /etc/make.conf. Could I have seti@home client without X packages? thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 21:14:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A71B1065677 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8AF8FC17 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so535948ewy.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:14:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:reply-to:from:to:subject:date :organization:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole; bh=pO0wJZiQ2nRw+OIVOAvAYJCS9FyKOgZ5eRwxB3VCQqc=; b=wLtE0p8YuLYtsuFUXZ6lkkN0RE2v9IeeeBDyI9TrqGW78OdpVXVsui2cP4JNKHRigw 9pbxZb6h1Lpa1TT+nCDXjIyjVGt+55H1/xQD90HdqibZrBI4578iDRW6CF6q69YELbU7 aWxHWTelk9foN2jPy1AbKkNRuAKCj0E7lNNJk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=reply-to:from:to:subject:date:organization:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :x-mimeole; b=OiHUA4BhtL2OtlEuizdS5k2FdMIijLkYbwP+WQ0oIWoqsq9GBr4DJrAGR3xNZXSdSN D9b8rJUeu/aO6OCde97JUSkN2k9uwz78uJwbUo9gtOWmpsk/QeRfoKQNsmRePqPVwIRQ Iw+ASlK4PM5QvJpUbrn/HLFnYwiU22i/RPavs= Received: by 10.210.40.10 with SMTP id n10mr677574ebn.90.1246396493816; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades ([99.23.120.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm681611eyf.52.2009.06.30.14.14.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:14:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dave" To: Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:15:26 -0400 Organization: davemehler.com Message-ID: <8EDEF027DA0C4508B28F3DA3D51EF62C@hades> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acn5x+KQeV0DlBRyRv2sYL3ZSP2ONw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: restoring a dump file across the network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dave.mehler@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:55 -0000 Hello, I've got a dumpfile taken of one machine and placed on another. Now i want to push it to a third, i was wondering if this were doable? Machine 3 does not have dump/restore on it can't get it, so needs to have it sent over an encrypted ssh connection. Suggestions welcome. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 21:40:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74986106566C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3BF8FC08 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so209995qwd.7 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:40:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7U2HOPt6UqYRN2acnHN+1XFsNEb3dLcNHGY535cd2fE=; b=cCj6wnejUbUgGzKCwM+6mKNFiaWHkcWsLRT0HQVkmepkANMlJ3gyaxOxRW3vHTk2gU ouVj5UTE1u0zjMjza6zBprcDyRK3UPt6AOTPSKvImpjp5P90StUcUEZyECzivAUa5a3P AJ6D0x3BVCm6coieG69MjJ0GZx+KgR7+kUysg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZfsapPeRcWtxAk1RQMb1q45mn1JwgdQtSWn42MXf4au5/vwD2AojCxqj82MdqrJOTc B/ADcZSz9D1VhONRjLHUifhhGweob2cRofLKZ5UpDfL3hzy6T/Tndpg9LaQwlvgyJgGh o8wpDRMrSyAAnEGRKT6cpMFvJClMVT78OUqK4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.80.139 with SMTP id t11mr2584198qak.3.1246398007271; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:40:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8EDEF027DA0C4508B28F3DA3D51EF62C@hades> References: <8EDEF027DA0C4508B28F3DA3D51EF62C@hades> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:40:07 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: dave.mehler@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: restoring a dump file across the network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:40:08 -0000 If you don't have the restore program, a dumpfile won't help you. You'd have to tar with permissions and untar on the opposite side. On 6/30/09, Dave wrote: > Hello, > I've got a dumpfile taken of one machine and placed on another. Now > i want to push it to a third, i was wondering if this were doable? Machine 3 > does not have dump/restore on it can't get it, so needs to have it sent over > an encrypted ssh connection. Suggestions welcome. > Thanks. > Dave. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 21:49:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0372A1065670 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don_read@att.net) Received: from smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0D0A8FC0C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:49:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from don_read@att.net) Received: (qmail 26004 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2009 21:49:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (don_read@74.235.228.46 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 2009 21:49:47 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 5dpT7O4VM1kfF7nZK5LhJeqKmTPxG8.R2JpWyfNC.ASmJCP94.a0ec1N4LOkXkfQutNsdSQvg8O14Dq6hW.8ypfPaPMiwZ2ArotMaHXaB822P_qZuGDFYyrKOfAETyrLqYKCdBE9Qm7wGv4FxX2E0RnMmmsXLgM_LSsaIhMrWP8_36clUSwR00UdbtHuGSrNIKqmxOrbkhnYjOrRBnVFQ8AIsUO5NfZlmxLd4y_FBvw0XvAclRGyOQIecPFwLKC9WlHHxSNYiUrRmE4f13SnO8KdbtsFQROkn012ip8T_gRGTA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:49:46 -0400 From: Don Read To: dave.mehler@gmail.com Message-ID: <20090630174946.0ca8d3ad@att.net> In-Reply-To: <8EDEF027DA0C4508B28F3DA3D51EF62C@hades> References: <8EDEF027DA0C4508B28F3DA3D51EF62C@hades> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.2; i386-portbld-freebsd6.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: restoring a dump file across the network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:49:49 -0000 On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:15:26 -0400 Dave said: > Hello, > I've got a dumpfile taken of one machine and placed on another. Now > i want to push it to a third, i was wondering if this were doable? Machine 3 > does not have dump/restore on it can't get it, so needs to have it sent over > an encrypted ssh connection. Suggestions welcome. > Thanks. > Dave. > Can you mount the files system(s) with nfsd? Regards, -- Don Read don_read@att.net It's always darkest before the dawn. So if you are going to steal the neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 22:09:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639AD1065672 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA2E8FC12 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090630214729817.HFRS17642@hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com>; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:47:31 +0000 Received: from ammon.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5ULlQp9080899; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:47:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from ammon.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ammon.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5ULlQ4E025220; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:47:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from djp@ammon.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by ammon.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5ULlQXE025219; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:47:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from djp) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:47:25 -0500 From: Doug Poland To: Tim Judd Message-ID: <20090630214725.GA25162@polands.org> References: <8EDEF027DA0C4508B28F3DA3D51EF62C@hades> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: dave.mehler@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: restoring a dump file across the network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:09:22 -0000 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 03:40:07PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > On 6/30/09, Dave wrote: > > Hello, > > I've got a dumpfile taken of one machine and placed on another. > > Now i want to push it to a third, i was wondering if this were > > doable? Machine 3 does not have dump/restore on it can't get it, > > so needs to have it sent over an encrypted ssh connection. > > > > If you don't have the restore program, a dumpfile won't help you. > You'd have to tar with permissions and untar on the opposite side. > A technique I've used with success in the past is nc(1). receiver# cd /somewhere receiver# nc -l 1234 | restore -rf- sender% nc receiver 1234 < dumpfile YMMV Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 22:15:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077CB1065670 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6488FC17 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:15:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so575110ewy.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:15:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=U/Duz3r7mNF9Yr4sZApdbAsJe3jUfAZHbvIwjvWi/9g=; b=XTLQjEwdVFxL7Xq/JRr+9wQoFdlXY0atgsRQKVRLYi55V744iCf+cX1MVHjQ1l2A6b Lfkf0Rv6dfg7/ig4JDNUGGOhG0+aSkT+w6olgaPdgxSn5x9pkOW0YZ+Y8C9W7OXWTb64 OeeaF0OQvsI6Dtkl+7pDd6XFA1X1GEC5/73es= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=pFEaUFu9jrCJaDHnH/9I+QrEYDEJtKelh663vtzoYaxKHt3KvKvbQcuQUHlmAQcPpP LoXc2htX9nDpS/FigOeoAONPruN2X0C6n/9JUwzVk1wbZu11hxhuTrch8YPOHVpTKrAv hieINGPCbviEQBhSL5cncBuHp0JYnhwmIUhOo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.18.82 with SMTP id k60mr2562699wek.118.1246400126119; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:15:26 -0700 (PDT) From: APseudoUtopia Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:15:06 -0400 Message-ID: <27ade5280906301515u2f81e82k31650c6061ecc2e1@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Trouble Upgrading VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:15:28 -0000 Hey, I emailed the list about two weeks ago, but received no responses. I'm having problems upgrading the VIM-Lite port from version 7.2.171 to 7.2.209. I'm getting the following error: => 7.2.041% doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/vim. => Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/. fetch: http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.041%: Bad Request This "Bad Request" continues for all the mirrors of the patch file. It seems that a percent sign is being appended to the URL for some reason. I was informed on IRC that this was a known problem and it was corrected some time ago. I have been updating my ports tree both daily (via the cron option) and immediately before I try updating. I use Portsnap to update the tree. This did not solve the problem. I then deleted my entire ports tree, along with all files in /var/db/portsnap, then ran portsnap fetch extract. After extracting an entirely new ports tree, the error upgrading VIM-Lite still occurred. Any ideas on how to solve this problem? It's been going on for some time now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 22:38:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275F21065670 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:38:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A721C8FC0C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:38:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so428392bwz.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:38:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=g1AYIvLvJqi1+Qy2fra3Q2cPLpa8nskgJQ/+wo0cpGE=; b=WJqVZqzVsP+ZZAUWFbEjZR2N312PORIs3z0T+32wD8qfHgajPmR+vfNdd1h5vbJr9t VB9n4mPsm9q3Up2xYuVrLT5DXs8dj2PvSmqE0PflP+yV4r1G3QOy8uxMzy7Y3M0u7f4W 5Cu32HlRH5796WtSP1x35UvpQsbD6ETmmOAms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fwBo1jRs7eXu1v7/KPgPqSiH2JVeCCc5IXdlHAaM/bwZ6k/iDWT4NlhIA8nCQ68WLa Y024Qsvu6ZBhvjyxjxVg+NMnHErNbQo/cjmWwdHLZoX7hlhW/p+dV4mI7YV378LRxiDC TrD79oLW+DtTe0GVNWseFvebCx2oRE3PIN1f8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.63.193 with SMTP id c1mr8849247bki.20.1246401497515; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:38:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <27ade5280906301515u2f81e82k31650c6061ecc2e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280906301515u2f81e82k31650c6061ecc2e1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:38:17 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310906301538m6d693a1ev97614c16689453e8@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: APseudoUtopia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble Upgrading VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:38:19 -0000 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:15 PM, APseudoUtopia wrote: > Hey, > > I emailed the list about two weeks ago, but received no responses. I'm > having problems upgrading the VIM-Lite port from version 7.2.171 to > 7.2.209. I'm getting the following error: > > => 7.2.041% doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/vim. > => Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/. > fetch: http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.041%: Bad Request > I saw this in a thread a few days (weeks) ago. Try putting "quotes" around the patch with the "%" sign. That is (most likely) what is causing problems. I thought this was patched -- is your ports tree current? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 22:48:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02641065678 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6288FC19 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so592453ewy.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:48:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GMZEvkazH0ETIfOei0OQb7x8y1zNTRUSbrYgpaRcYf8=; b=jLF8DJKqneLHJyEywhYeZuCvLIhj3UeHTuRwfVgPiGILz+Ovn6dALteuMchORuGBov 6GuyjjrsaCHdu5eMt9+ooBFrckwzrXS2slwuziCj0MUYC3fUbiHxx/qYw+gFf8yJ1pTb uUnmH2xcxPH39NO/n7zvlgDpuo/v3iJsYQCHY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=l7+IcZO9xDG+20uUVgNpn4V0nVpt8BDMxXIRvsoqdV+s5ygyeNNGc+bQBFhMTE4r0z JfHbC+OFrczfMfSA/cYoA9nc2jfXYOE5reHnHBfY+bzVq/PJ9tCZFsx6WzaUPXs1hyu0 oe11qLAPRVidtcgUWaPdbot2rdbglqo54dO0M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.53.197 with SMTP id g47mr2612559wec.91.1246402115082; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:48:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310906301538m6d693a1ev97614c16689453e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280906301515u2f81e82k31650c6061ecc2e1@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310906301538m6d693a1ev97614c16689453e8@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:48:15 -0400 Message-ID: <27ade5280906301548l27a98eerd2fca8051f18a63e@mail.gmail.com> To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble Upgrading VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:48:37 -0000 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Glen Barber wrote= : > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:15 PM, APseudoUtopia w= rote: >> Hey, >> >> I emailed the list about two weeks ago, but received no responses. I'm >> having problems upgrading the VIM-Lite port from version 7.2.171 to >> 7.2.209. I'm getting the following error: >> >> =3D> 7.2.041% doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/vim. >> =3D> Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/. >> fetch: http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.041%: Bad Request >> > > I saw this in a thread a few days (weeks) ago. > > Try putting "quotes" around the patch with the "%" sign. =C2=A0That is > (most likely) what is causing problems. > > I thought this was patched -- is your ports tree current? > > -- > Glen Barber > Yes, it is current (I mentioned this in the original email). I run portsnap fetch update on a daily basis. This didn't solve the problem after a week or so, so I decided to `rm -rf /usr/ports/*` and run portsnap fetch extract to see if it helped. It did not. Do you mean editing the Makefile and adding quotes? I'll try doing that now and see if it works. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 22:49:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49120106568D for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C944B8FC1D for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so432347bwz.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:49:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aVLDyjH7gDRmDDjSNLs43/0BIgzXZUIkEHjdtysLk4c=; b=oVW1n6KGd/slmbykZO6pvAqD2dTz0YtBjInrv16WCxLVVde9QLQ6fQhPT8JSKkY9sg L75OML+f4P3qDA59m/fuh7eCVjvyyujrdXVtCcrEL8aNHjIxN/y6rH/oNOyz5luoKXOe OncDDsXJdfFR99nUdAhtRR3KJqIVyR30gTaCU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gCs6PHkxzp/VxXmTAQvwC8UiuMsJ0ca5YfA3dMeajTjOed0KyobYzFfWvnNqkY5xhM YHCN/aqedf06LFSjxU8fDw4+9HbqNkISGaPk+SlVfwPqUHtJhDvz5p3cH9sKaoWD5gCi Zj5PL1PX9Ur57WYw56lpnLxIdujMF1SroV4wo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.60.72 with SMTP id o8mr8787121bkh.210.1246402167863; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:49:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:49:27 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750906301549p2f5e0763mbfea63d60166f3d@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Stefan Miklosovic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: seti@home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:49:29 -0000 On 6/30/09, Stefan Miklosovic wrote: > hi all, > > I would like to install seti@home client to my machine, > There are tutorials on internet how to install it, but it is all > about package called simply "setiathome". I dont see > such package in a port tree. I was searching for similar > one, it seems I found it : > > /usr/ports/astro/boinc-setiathome-enhanced > > If i go to install it, it is about instaling ~30 ports as well, > most of them is xorg related. > > I do not want to install these X related packages at all. > It seems futile to having written "WITHOUT_X11=yes" in > /etc/make.conf. > > Could I have seti@home client without X packages? I think you only need to install boinc-client and download right file(s) from seti webpage. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 22:58:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898921065672 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:58:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f214.google.com (mail-bw0-f214.google.com [209.85.218.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102628FC12 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz10 with SMTP id 10so446314bwz.20 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:58:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Vf/k/OV/qGXWCTHkX69biM4ROxgnATp4Ofu9aMTCUwY=; b=om+HCLP6G5hbJg5DC47f2EF6nmy7bDQXo4PxO9EQte2TVDaMlgaBegPA8ph4s/7ijP uF8VsuMGAlNi/jaMdW4RAuMYL2NWP4yxTijpY1XqmiC9jODjn8CKrMsf6YGA6pDfqoyR 8Yz/v8JP2C3feQXsxyRuvG51YiCqRWEwJOqgI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VT0ajyF0WaP7v4umMUeqGZmSAJLTzO9w0hN8oQaL/6svzzr4nTYaouPxycW37TtCxm gt5kI3Vs/GDoYm6RVsf67JJvZiy2fTx2PLR3dLiMbAHPQWALJQkJ9SxposAo/xJqd/d2 jzl/xXBXpVIC1aTkjQ27ntL8HUdByWMkvKotY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.65.65 with SMTP id h1mr8875213bki.18.1246402737332; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:58:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <27ade5280906301548l27a98eerd2fca8051f18a63e@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280906301515u2f81e82k31650c6061ecc2e1@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310906301538m6d693a1ev97614c16689453e8@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280906301548l27a98eerd2fca8051f18a63e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:58:57 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310906301558q387468c5gd2ba11d057c3e447@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: APseudoUtopia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble Upgrading VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:58:59 -0000 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:48 PM, APseudoUtopia wrote: > > Yes, it is current (I mentioned this in the original email). Sorry, I missed it initially. > > I run portsnap fetch update on a daily basis. This didn't solve the > problem after a week or so, so I decided to `rm -rf /usr/ports/*` and > run portsnap fetch extract to see if it helped. It did not. > > Do you mean editing the Makefile and adding quotes? I'll try doing > that now and see if it works. > Here's the PR that was filed as a result of the original thread: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=136027 -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 23:03:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D538106566C for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:03:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCBA8FC15 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:03:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so441126fxm.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:03:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=015hQrVfh1j6Hn/GwlhEWMhR++jiYeMLWEwmwamsvnQ=; b=Omfrb/TOTcwq/t0NJ2+4TBWPebWTvf3+TrmYdCxsJw8EpkHGp/nkeeDi8lCXlSsjJ2 FPWaHHXmdqt362GI5OGBG0Mth8wfOzKvW7rmUSCxaSS/fWsJXwJZ/PtoUf85XJUs8D5Y VS4Zp9vSLJHW6YMK2Y5eswRaahmIbwCQvm4a4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JLfs4ii/P1w4ihtzWQl2ZxJrhrv2YjE8pfCFNmQtOWN1/tE7sClfC+OAZWrKZQXMpx JRT+RLxqsHwZEUp96Pyk9MFoD0i7axY04QvM0Pf8A1vJAu4ipQ1XJoT6s0T6jNrr2Iys HrG4MlSGqw77NyZ90I1BLgu/38/+PqNjKTXCE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.118.70 with SMTP id u6mr8777798bkq.198.1246403011669; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:03:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 01:03:31 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750906301603i4088580djed9ce24713dfc541@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Alexander Best Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange ee behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:03:33 -0000 On 6/30/09, Alexander Best wrote: > hi there, > > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i open `ee` in an > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to enter commands > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee was running > on > the output is a mess. > > i'm running r195173 (HEAD). Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use? -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 23:16:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8481065670 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E148FC12 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so134505eyd.3 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:16:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pcp6p5w0VVU5y1C5z/1Z4+cChHw0k/Jd6HNgxu/URJI=; b=O+pZ9/kWXTeV+sKqetTVK4Kr52D7UPMLI2jn1SouyA8XFW6qopigcMwNBvW9dgl67Z kRnaCc4/Fq+P0tz/zM1gk1WIIQOKF/LO/pxW+wGvdF9CFVj1bTRNGs5qrIQVCnk7x6cL FK/DLh0F0o+pyTbxIN7f6g55cyoBoWKSyBrr4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AyvWTy34wi58UdXZNPJtZXo0vIbPu6zJsOL2oNhFFXWGHiLtK3uc+wd9758+oESyP2 LBKDY4cnzq35hq39MdMikqq3T5fcRAHw5P3qtc6G2bbNwikTch5zmLn2M15np9ZvSfyi s1zGk/+OcwvNqKLw0AttKabMudXCCbCCNHvm4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.28.198 with SMTP id g48mr2718246wea.109.1246403815117; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:16:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310906301558q387468c5gd2ba11d057c3e447@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280906301515u2f81e82k31650c6061ecc2e1@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310906301538m6d693a1ev97614c16689453e8@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280906301548l27a98eerd2fca8051f18a63e@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310906301558q387468c5gd2ba11d057c3e447@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:16:35 -0400 Message-ID: <27ade5280906301616g74bc40c6m73e914e400f7f449@mail.gmail.com> To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble Upgrading VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:16:57 -0000 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:48 PM, APseudoUtopia wrote: >> >> Yes, it is current (I mentioned this in the original email). > > Sorry, I missed it initially. > >> >> I run portsnap fetch update on a daily basis. This didn't solve the >> problem after a week or so, so I decided to `rm -rf /usr/ports/*` and >> run portsnap fetch extract to see if it helped. It did not. >> >> Do you mean editing the Makefile and adding quotes? I'll try doing >> that now and see if it works. >> > > Here's the PR that was filed as a result of the original thread: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=136027 > > -- > Glen Barber > Thanks. I changed some stuff in my Makefile around from the PR and it solved the problem. I appreciate it. I'm not sure why portsnap isn't receiving the updated file. It seems very odd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 23:20:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA0810656B8 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EBE8FC1F for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:20:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so442340bwz.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:20:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Pp/uNKDkZjmhA2pHVSlWVFBlUasbw6pWeYlJX1PqSTk=; b=AcIaN1PRJSygCuRL+ZjGeR5Xgob41qIPrX+pqNEyCjd/Ja71DlNM/b5RqKOBD97zEd c4GWT+ULsyHB1M/PWWO+PB0VRe2GUeiedqXzjXM4xipBXiIKY3420JRB99TlDGSK5REq 7JB27hMQrPBHpSzxQOGx032avezuYjfZ48vQM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UYe+6j7knhPpxWpQ7/eHDoUzkxe+oiAzYlcO/TiUw2EoemI4J7+F/yWZoVbl83tRiF 74hFXTF6Jsnuq2M8WweL0fLYqvBCiy2Qgy7Hafv0GVXe5d2zMk6mH/1C69ol9clG6A7u nroNP9tXtW8mg5MzxUam62jAcQNiufkcbXps0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.63.193 with SMTP id c1mr8885247bki.20.1246404042945; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:20:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <27ade5280906301616g74bc40c6m73e914e400f7f449@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280906301515u2f81e82k31650c6061ecc2e1@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310906301538m6d693a1ev97614c16689453e8@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280906301548l27a98eerd2fca8051f18a63e@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310906301558q387468c5gd2ba11d057c3e447@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280906301616g74bc40c6m73e914e400f7f449@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:20:42 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310906301620w11a4512cx5552ff918c877de0@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: APseudoUtopia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble Upgrading VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:20:45 -0000 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:16 PM, APseudoUtopia wrote: > > Thanks. I changed some stuff in my Makefile around from the PR and it > solved the problem. > > I appreciate it. I'm not sure why portsnap isn't receiving the updated > file. It seems very odd. > It isn't receiving the file update because it hasn't been committed yet. Glad it worked though. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 23:21:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC6610656AA for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295AD8FC0A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so446234fxm.43 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:21:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=L7N1akfcVq7ac+pw53EvDK45OblulkjMNhvgwXrV51Y=; b=Aujkqn1pkS9q1XBXHZ8r4qkw4I3eG8YY87H4xuPdvblcdGr1BIgVa0YxOth7CpJSv7 qtW2sDxqgBy5UpT9s/V0YB5EtV+FiGJYKF5pg2qlks5XiNMzumlKpqgtt2xdifg3Y5Y7 dJoE6OUwlJ6JXg9mkcsiJ+fR2/o1WVh9kLkmI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; b=QHgAFsl/MoiJ+O9tT1/2Jl9TaZ4FeE34mFn7dXCHwgZYydKl852S1WrVqc3+7tNbBq YwM0P63/hyfDcZzAfKWMckNSiNYfd4vsZ9HOe84VHW9aVdNF2kWrv5yMhjWENPJ5FG7w g/gGCDzeHJgBjGpLOjjys3+thbNge3BxAVJG4= Received: by 10.103.8.17 with SMTP id l17mr5139135mui.125.1246402446655; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oslo.ath.cx (d91-128-195-41.cust.tele2.at [91.128.195.41]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm2643173muq.53.2009.06.30.15.54.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4a4a978e.0c11660a.54f6.ffffd0f2@mx.google.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:53:59 +0200 From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <27ade5280906301515u2f81e82k31650c6061ecc2e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280906301515u2f81e82k31650c6061ecc2e1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.7 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?B?R29qxY0=?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/23.0.94 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Trouble Upgrading VIM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:21:03 -0000 At Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:15:06 -0400, APseudoUtopia wrote: > > Hey, > > I emailed the list about two weeks ago, but received no responses. I'm > having problems upgrading the VIM-Lite port from version 7.2.171 to > 7.2.209. I'm getting the following error: > > => 7.2.041% doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/vim. > => Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/. > fetch: http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.041%: Bad Request > > This "Bad Request" continues for all the mirrors of the patch file. It > seems that a percent sign is being appended to the URL for some > reason. I was informed on IRC that this was a known problem and it was > corrected some time ago. I have been updating my ports tree both daily > (via the cron option) and immediately before I try updating. I use > Portsnap to update the tree. This did not solve the problem. I then > deleted my entire ports tree, along with all files in > /var/db/portsnap, then ran portsnap fetch extract. After extracting an > entirely new ports tree, the error upgrading VIM-Lite still occurred. > > Any ideas on how to solve this problem? It's been going on for some time now. The vim port uses a modified patch and therefore the file was renamed (7.2.041%). It's not available from the official vim mirrors. Don't hit "^C" during make fetch. The last site will serve you the file. => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/obrien/. 7.2.041% 100% of 21 kB 38 kBps Or run: # cd /usr/ports/distfiles/vim/ # fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/obrien/7.2.041% - Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 23:36:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262AA106564A for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-out3.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-OUT3.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF41E8FC16 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,319,1243807200"; d="scan'208";a="7235343" Received: from zivmaildisp2.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER01.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.143]) by zivm-relay3.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 01 Jul 2009 01:36:31 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER01.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id B202A1B0764; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 01:36:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:36:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: "Paul B. Mahol" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3a142e750906301603i4088580djed9ce24713dfc541@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange ee behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:36:33 -0000 i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when i run ee in the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says "Program exited normally.". so it's not a program crash i guess. Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: > On 6/30/09, Alexander Best wrote: > > hi there, > > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i open > > `ee` in an > > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to enter > > commands > > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee was > > running > > on > > the output is a mess. > > i'm running r195173 (HEAD). > Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 06:02:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D14106566C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 06:02:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com (mail-gx0-f210.google.com [209.85.217.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52F88FC1C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 06:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so946399gxk.19 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:02:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rPhs7FrK8XpkYsnv+O1pq6oiXYl+Bmoxem7eXTqrilg=; b=K2shadJkIQqtiFfs1V9nVmwodKCKP1KuApX+6Yd0Q8sCp2EL6lgZ6TXu5vTxMQKFFt 5FeR3cHbVWrlsNxGEgssFBYF4+Dpp9DPsIaTopVTdxtgpfgFfDXQZE4qSeTIji0/JGOg 8HNPA7VVDuwsPyCw8crQFabk0ehP6mN6388f0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ksDFsL4qjc5LfJ/DOD65N/hS7S6l3iashhzeXVa783sj3PhyJqeB8It+WUTL7w7dJE ne+ui9f0IAXMFJA+rRvud2NKhkGUF9KPv0oe7RcCdzoI9QtOT1D8DKafQjSbyLcJHiCr ay5eLdm0AVw1Lnm3eFaiMUZnTPcVX8M/DUdCg= Received: by 10.90.93.8 with SMTP id q8mr7699306agb.118.1246428173103; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?152.144.218.46? ([203.92.44.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm2023325aga.45.2009.06.30.23.02.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A4AFC07.6070508@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:32:47 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Roland Smith Subject: Questions on portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:02:54 -0000 Hi, I am using portmaster on FreeBSD-7.2 to keep my ports up to date. When there are multiple ports to be updated, portmaster will fork off child processes. Does each child start 'make fetch' in the background ? I ask this because the parent process attached to the console reports very low data transfer rates (in the range of 0.7 to 4.0 kBps, while normally I get 30 to 35 kBps). Further, how can portmaster be tuned to automatically ignore ports which are actually marked as IGNORE in the port directory ? This is not covered in the manpage. While doing portmaster -a, I have only managed to stop portmaster from building exactly one port specified with the -x option. Can I get to stop multiple ports from being built ? Is there regular expression support for the -x option ? Thanks for any help. -- Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-96500-10329 Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 06:20:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2451065670 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 06:20:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arek@wup-katowice.pl) Received: from mx1.wup-katowice.pl (mx1.wup-katowice.pl [195.39.216.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCF48FC17 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 06:20:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arek@wup-katowice.pl) Received: from mx1.wup-katowice.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.wup-katowice.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC3561C5C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:03:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (arek.wup-katowice.pl [195.39.216.233]) by mx1.wup-katowice.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 735F061C5A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:03:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:02:47 +0200 From: Arek Czereszewski User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Message-ID: <4A4AFC07.6030808@wup-katowice.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.36/RELEASE, bases: 20090701 #2409701, check: 20090701 clean Subject: Portaudit strange behavior. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: arek@wup-katowice.pl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:20:21 -0000 Hi, On all my servers I have portaudit version 0.5.13 If I try update audit database (by hand or from periodic script) I have: # portaudit -Fd auditfile.tbz 100% of 53 kB 39 kBps portaudit: Database too old. Old database restored. portaudit: Download failed. # When I change ${portaudit_sites="http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/"} to ${portaudit_sites="http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/"} Like was in 0.5.12 # portaudit -Fd auditfile.tbz 100% of 56 kB 34 kBps New database installed. Database created: Wed Jul 1 07:40:02 CEST 2009 Update work fine. Anyone have behavior like I have? regards Arek -- Arek Czereszewski arek (at) wup-katowice (dot) pl "UNIX allows me to work smarter, not harder." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 07:21:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A75B1065688 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB378FC0A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:21:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from joshua.freebsdgr.org (athedsl-4553305.home.otenet.gr [94.70.70.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n617LoWH026358 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:21:50 +0300 Message-ID: <4A4B0E8E.4090501@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:21:50 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090411) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Failing to show 'Password:' prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:21:53 -0000 This morning my server was unresponsive both from ssh and through http. The only thing that is different on this system on a 1st of month, is a dump job that runs through periodic (on a mostly inactive system). Visiting the console, I discovered the system was still up and displaying login prompt on all vtys, but after typing a username, the password prompt would never appear. Keyboard was responsive and I could even switch between keyboard layouts (English/Greek). Plugging and and unplugging an external USB drive, showed the kernel messages on tty0. Still, I could not get it to display a password prompt and had to hard reboot it. I can't find anything in /var/log/messages either - it stops at 5.25 in the morning. And the dump was not performed either (and there are no traces about it in the log). What kind of crash could cause the password prompt to not display? Ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 07:32:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232A41065670 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meslists@yahoo.fr) Received: from smtp124.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp124.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [77.238.184.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 871968FC12 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meslists@yahoo.fr) Received: (qmail 70879 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2009 07:32:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=Jgzj6TW2ipl8JQ6Ni+nyLCre1tls9mm8/fEFqxq5X/H85tf33SfMeGYd0hqW14RBL16acDCYpqQMwFv48a4xY+h3gtFsYPQ5PTLGc98U/8jKVql3lcPMphNw+r1alTPdIQefdN0uqES/YN/wKL469h9hPuUCjXOV7hDEQ/wYaJw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO suer) (meslists@151.49.227.152 with plain) by smtp124.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 2009 07:32:05 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: vQQ_Xl6swBCl_II246m4P1b5oVD4 X-YMail-OSG: S0CGw1IVM1mvMfHEqWJtVb5fifqdu7XVor5OxSDq4iGUo3j6MusBohGmRKpdWdykhJnW2JttFxk_Eu0I9oftzBCvdgtlZ9peViEDCHP6sFns6Tx5Czio68qwW.jYXfoM2lE0UlmaDHZsrRwI599FhWEgEsgETi1jGJvNFgaD3bKHyKpKAT_.Wro09zFSXQha3wF1bqLgMkXc6dbTKXNSGHfVILwrIplFwfhb58PTG0xIhR6Jg713cgGUwpOtRiFtHBYSXK3dMKT8jZRGrz6V9bFfp6BZbYfYTZQFM3FKeK_B25M5pbVt X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: dan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, arek@wup-katowice.pl Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:31:20 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4A4AFC07.6030808@wup-katowice.pl> In-Reply-To: <4A4AFC07.6030808@wup-katowice.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907010931.20410.meslists@yahoo.fr> Cc: Subject: Re: Portaudit strange behavior. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: meslists@yahoo.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:32:08 -0000 On Wednesday 01 July 2009 08:02:47 Arek Czereszewski wrote: > Hi, > > On all my servers I have portaudit version 0.5.13 > If I try update audit database (by hand or from periodic script) > I have: > > # portaudit -Fd > auditfile.tbz 100% of 53 kB 39 kBps > portaudit: Database too old. > Old database restored. > portaudit: Download failed. > # > > When I change > > ${portaudit_sites="http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/"} > to > ${portaudit_sites="http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/"} > Like was in 0.5.12 > # portaudit -Fd > auditfile.tbz 100% of 56 kB 34 kBps > New database installed. > Database created: Wed Jul 1 07:40:02 CEST 2009 > Update work fine. > > Anyone have behavior like I have? > > regards > Arek Oups ! I experienced the same behaviour this morning, but after that I did not make any change. Waiting for news, d From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 08:54:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850B8106579C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8218FC22 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:54:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so601442bwz.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:54:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cFHRk7sgZb4uj0LQ324mpYjoNOpT6GBjiq1bebGfE5M=; b=coeRfnsQRRY+MW4UAap/IpuIpf/PQpH/vjNBqgvAQNOnMqfTObfNKpV3ikHdcCzYBh 9xsUjAmuOkRzF6opArunUUNIr+h0qTdCMsQgHG2d1KemT/64jZI/wcgX804dpSX8qDHC CNt8QqFE9kI5nrdrYXKhhze9GBHpEBeXOpuFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=T1KnbD+PbQo04jeF2FO/I65lGqZ7R8DzEiTnXVSUZAiesVpngbPNkgxu32s3fIXKwC aEjeFjb+iXM9LRWh8TqFYsBNYUhAUffZGBdhONxSEjPACay2iz84si7JSdramPVQ6DyM Pj721tzLbftjdCft0O8hUFmy2U3oQmVL3PFOc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.69 with SMTP id l5mr9329963bkq.102.1246438466972; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:54:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3a142e750906301603i4088580djed9ce24713dfc541@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:54:26 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750907010154n8b2417dw4d480876c89ddbca@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Alexander Best Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange ee behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:54:30 -0000 On 7/1/09, Alexander Best wrote: > i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when i run ee > in > the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says "Program exited > normally.". so it's not a program crash i guess. > > Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: >> On 6/30/09, Alexander Best wrote: >> > hi there, > >> > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i open >> > `ee` in an >> > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to enter >> > commands >> > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee was >> > running >> > on >> > the output is a mess. > >> > i'm running r195173 (HEAD). > >> Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use? Actually I can, if I resize xterm window, ee will exit. You really should mentioned that you use awesome at first place. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 09:09:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40694106567D for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4F98FC15 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.140] (helo=anti-virus02-07) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MLvoI-0004LS-Nw; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:08:58 +0100 Received: from [94.168.156.45] (helo=Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MLvoI-0008TX-0h; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:08:58 +0100 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:05:12 +0100 Message-ID: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F789739295715@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <3a142e750906301549p2f5e0763mbfea63d60166f3d@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Thread-Topic: seti@home Thread-Index: Acn51TS5RE6n6MifQnepCVVuADxQ+wAVFs+w References: <3a142e750906301549p2f5e0763mbfea63d60166f3d@mail.gmail.com> From: "Graeme Dargie" To: "Paul B. Mahol" , "Stefan Miklosovic" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: seti@home X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:09:15 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Paul B. Mahol [mailto:onemda@gmail.com]=20 Sent: 30 June 2009 23:49 To: Stefan Miklosovic Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: seti@home On 6/30/09, Stefan Miklosovic wrote: > hi all, > > I would like to install seti@home client to my machine, > There are tutorials on internet how to install it, but it is all > about package called simply "setiathome". I dont see > such package in a port tree. I was searching for similar > one, it seems I found it : > > /usr/ports/astro/boinc-setiathome-enhanced > > If i go to install it, it is about instaling ~30 ports as well, > most of them is xorg related. > > I do not want to install these X related packages at all. > It seems futile to having written "WITHOUT_X11=3Dyes" in > /etc/make.conf. > > Could I have seti@home client without X packages? I think you only need to install boinc-client and download right file(s) from seti webpage. --=20 Paul _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" /usr/ports/astro/boinc-setiathome-enhanced is the correct package to install, I have been running this for some months now and initially I thought the same as yourself about the X stuff ... but you actually need it even if you are running from a shell environment. Regards Graeme From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 09:10:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C8F106567D for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-out2.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-OUT2.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A5A8FC1F for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,322,1243807200"; d="scan'208";a="217524005" Received: from zivmaildisp2.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER05.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.143]) by zivm-relay2.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 01 Jul 2009 11:10:16 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER05.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id A9EBE1B07E4; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:10:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:10:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: "Paul B. Mahol" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3a142e750907010154n8b2417dw4d480876c89ddbca@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange ee behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:10:19 -0000 oh sorry. i thought this was ee related because there've been some recent changes in the ee src. if it's awesome's fault i'll try to replace the installed version from ports with a svn snapshot. maybe the problem's been fixed already. cheers. Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: > On 7/1/09, Alexander Best wrote: > > i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when i > > run ee > > in > > the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says "Program > > exited > > normally.". so it's not a program crash i guess. > > Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: > >> On 6/30/09, Alexander Best > >> wrote: > >> > hi there, > >> > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i open > >> > `ee` in an > >> > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to > >> > enter > >> > commands > >> > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee > >> > was > >> > running > >> > on > >> > the output is a mess. > >> > i'm running r195173 (HEAD). > >> Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use? > Actually I can, if I resize xterm window, ee will exit. > You really should mentioned that you use awesome at first place. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 09:12:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D681065719 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071C88FC08 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so614542fxm.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:12:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LDAKxUTN6VKylcq64wKdbkB/JXA7z2DYrzZNdCXyNyo=; b=Kcl2J+nMmoGMExcXn/q410Y5PDkowAxDaDsUp+cl0+iRNiv9e4CeAzm45+VtJN8Y4w xuBbVRhaGtRHdrUv3V5V/Go2avtdacwZ1k1AubplS9CTnoKoON8V8sNjypmuSj3s5R4J qZVsQhf8yvV5h+eCIs9OTO19s6YO138ST03K8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MN/MCeP2zBNLf6/NPuUCGg8WkxqzEitint3Z6IDfZhxOJrIqOqS4XBZjxRJEvXab/W Aewd4PhYmv5uP14oA8YsIxN9VYtm6GKzfHkUOrK1xk2tUfe07Ui4beMqTZpEYRhA1Klt HZ7DeiKesybAVqdEjCiX3IQ6zdQz6GLjRHSQg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.66.2 with SMTP id l2mr9298085bki.177.1246439547954; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:12:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3a142e750907010154n8b2417dw4d480876c89ddbca@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a142e750906301603i4088580djed9ce24713dfc541@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907010154n8b2417dw4d480876c89ddbca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:12:27 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750907010212t61001359md700e573147ea00b@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Alexander Best Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange ee behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:12:30 -0000 On 7/1/09, Paul B. Mahol wrote: > On 7/1/09, Alexander Best wrote: >> i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when i run >> ee >> in >> the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says "Program exited >> normally.". so it's not a program crash i guess. >> >> Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: >>> On 6/30/09, Alexander Best wrote: >>> > hi there, >> >>> > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i open >>> > `ee` in an >>> > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to enter >>> > commands >>> > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee was >>> > running >>> > on >>> > the output is a mess. >> >>> > i'm running r195173 (HEAD). >> >>> Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use? > > Actually I can, if I resize xterm window, ee will exit. > You really should mentioned that you use awesome at first place. Problems is that ee doesnt handle SIGWINCH properly. ee on FreeBSD is linked with ncurses but new_curse.c from contrib/ee is only file that mentions SIGWINCH and that file is not part of usr.bin/ee/Makefile -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 09:15:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF99F106564A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4736E8FC16 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so612238bwz.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:15:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MvObmg8fdmUpyuas/KAxz4wsiy9W5ZIRWbhp/GEGpmA=; b=MSI3Z58pLKathhisaZXJLpWFiIVl1l5suvUqvSeJBQIg84AAB2vKoVJ2n7MqsK3u7W w6Dwp5ow/whrJv43ik8FoQ9rNHzTI0lfUa3wFvzCGSkOUf0jhSEVjUkIeSsjfURM7McQ Ln3fuRIgyh1VF5O64rrNhmG0+l2trbwt2Dtz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U6U0Z1dFkDRmyh+xnd2heHseCiH61lRs9zfDQGWrXKywz4qDQK7PeUqqGBumC6bxTa ygsqIKYy1NU0cs/YqJw7ys9a4oyfAUccGSKdDwA2Nvo4NhZPKNYCGS3S5Xo22va7kCNf kFGwAA7Qs7n8n4ypjzC/knapNfoEeMwSQmKbE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.118.207 with SMTP id w15mr9364734bkq.97.1246439736285; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:15:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3a142e750907010154n8b2417dw4d480876c89ddbca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:15:36 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750907010215n2d298396x8a5d09fea9bb79b6@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Alexander Best Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange ee behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:15:38 -0000 On 7/1/09, Alexander Best wrote: > oh sorry. i thought this was ee related because there've been some recent > changes in the ee src. if it's awesome's fault i'll try to replace the > installed version from ports with a svn snapshot. maybe the problem's been > fixed already. This is really ee bug and not awesome fault. It can be reproduced with any window manager that can resize windows. > cheers. > > Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: >> On 7/1/09, Alexander Best wrote: >> > i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when i >> > run ee >> > in >> > the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says "Program >> > exited >> > normally.". so it's not a program crash i guess. > >> > Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: >> >> On 6/30/09, Alexander Best >> >> wrote: >> >> > hi there, > >> >> > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i open >> >> > `ee` in an >> >> > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to >> >> > enter >> >> > commands >> >> > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee >> >> > was >> >> > running >> >> > on >> >> > the output is a mess. > >> >> > i'm running r195173 (HEAD). > >> >> Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use? > >> Actually I can, if I resize xterm window, ee will exit. >> You really should mentioned that you use awesome at first place. > > -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 09:21:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD19A1065670 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF8C8FC18 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so619039fxm.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:21:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VijLWHXaMthTXvvYd13VfMkKpjEIH/Zg1WoW+UMBMHc=; b=RL0EJffEI+nGOP/Q/KiTbeSrEYzEXMYWD8NvvQwx9kY8fEZYN9vhmp/36tLL2SzUcB 3yTVjq7VVNiHkPb8qipMl0Izmcat/gp6Y0oczrCsAFx8Ynl8yt0XiN7VWzw+Zpd0QEjG nNXEz0X8vIgrbna9e/2yEOes9aBax75p2rpBI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kUerHFHiQOfjL/zLEEEgL0v1Pir8Q8jYN/DsshttmFbHUBpTTe2IM06FfsH9TmLpuV peMU0XaqtIhlJExJXvL5/I4tbWGtS33W0TzqqUuwpCLXYV2M/XWbBd1sOHMHiLcS9O1k Bj4aLYptJ/zuLk2Jni7Gr+2E7H1WegiircTlU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.69 with SMTP id l5mr9353472bkq.102.1246440116248; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:21:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A4B0E8E.4090501@otenet.gr> References: <4A4B0E8E.4090501@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:21:56 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750907010221w57ae36f0mb427195139784d8@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Manolis Kiagias Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Failing to show 'Password:' prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:21:57 -0000 On 7/1/09, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > This morning my server was unresponsive both from ssh and through http. > The only thing that is different on this system on a 1st of month, is a > dump job that runs through periodic (on a mostly inactive system). > > Visiting the console, I discovered the system was still up and > displaying login prompt on all vtys, but after typing a username, the > password prompt would never appear. Keyboard was responsive and I could > even switch between keyboard layouts (English/Greek). Plugging and and > unplugging an external USB drive, showed the kernel messages on tty0. > Still, I could not get it to display a password prompt and had to hard > reboot it. > > I can't find anything in /var/log/messages either - it stops at 5.25 in > the morning. And the dump was not performed either (and there are no > traces about it in the log). > > What kind of crash could cause the password prompt to not display? Ideas? Can you actually log in? Login prompt and password propmt are configurable via gettytab and login.conf.(db) -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 09:29:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE741065672 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: from mail.gmx.com (unknown [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03C978FC15 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass9573@gmx.com) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 01 Jul 2009 09:29:25 -0000 Received: from ipa246.0.107.79.tellas.gr (EHLO [169.254.0.1]) [79.107.0.246] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu003) with SMTP; 01 Jul 2009 11:29:25 +0200 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/x57UQmILxl7IqBTVJDdR+AWb5TaEcI7Er1WeEbc jswfEldfxcbDho Message-ID: <4A4B2C64.4040508@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:29:08 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <4A4B0E8E.4090501@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <4A4B0E8E.4090501@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.62 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Failing to show 'Password:' prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:29:28 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > This morning my server was unresponsive both from ssh and through http. > The only thing that is different on this system on a 1st of month, is a > dump job that runs through periodic (on a mostly inactive system). > > Visiting the console, I discovered the system was still up and > displaying login prompt on all vtys, but after typing a username, the > password prompt would never appear. Keyboard was responsive and I could > even switch between keyboard layouts (English/Greek). Plugging and and > unplugging an external USB drive, showed the kernel messages on tty0. > Still, I could not get it to display a password prompt and had to hard > reboot it. > > I can't find anything in /var/log/messages either - it stops at 5.25 in > the morning. And the dump was not performed either (and there are no > traces about it in the log). > > What kind of crash could cause the password prompt to not display? Ideas? Geia Manoli, A deadlock somewhere in the filesystem code would expose such behavior. Other subsystems may continue to work, but some operations, somehow related to that filesystem code, will wait - forever - for some locks to be released. I've seen such behavior in early RELENG_6 branch with regard to UFS snapshots. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 09:45:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EA41065674 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9AF8FC19 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:45:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so630518fxm.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:45:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=cQwO+1lPKOpCcXuHFHxJSXZdpy7+DYRz2+zoXIT7GdY=; b=K5+1b3sBvoiMbJDOc0eIhYFMZ3rtHqNdvp91pWHzJIoqtBVn21K8nmRtwhFotzbMhl 7ByemzrFB3FpyGq0WE/aR2M24YwoEpxZMcJMIhpjPpHrL2FpvtTk3dBEf/mDggh3OLax llxF0mNSNwMbhtSyzAHTwgq1Bl9gEwkmVxtSI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sVZRcZvvyxJiJxNkNUdOdGJlvtrkwzzVYSndN1Tk5cbHqGS85gWn0/+7S4NJphcL/+ t8zg7x6IJwn5BGIFqhXVumDARK7Mig2y+lcPY/sJFgpcaHzcGndG7lDzg8vsNB3L8ukE 5uUGCIbarHUcWiasmxJ/q/n0+0PDmqpMsR0PY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.136 with SMTP id a8mr6025017faq.101.1246441552897; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:45:52 +0300 Message-ID: <7dc029620907010245p473d53ddoa967addbb4bb0dbe@mail.gmail.com> From: Mike Barnard To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Google Earth on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:45:55 -0000 Hi, I have installed Google Earth via ports but cannot get it to run. If i run it from console, i get this: > googleearth ./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgthread-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > I have searched for the library it says it cannot find. It is located in /usr/local/lib; /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 LD_LIBRARY_PATH has that path in its entry. Is there something I am missing. Anybody managed to get it to work? Regards, -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 09:54:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADCF106566C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:54:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-out3.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-OUT3.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F478FC18 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:54:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,322,1243807200"; d="scan'208";a="7268886" Received: from zivmaildisp2.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER03.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.143]) by zivm-relay3.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 01 Jul 2009 11:54:05 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER03.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id 5ABCF1B0741; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:54:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:54:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: "Paul B. Mahol" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3a142e750907010212t61001359md700e573147ea00b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange ee behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:54:07 -0000 oh. i see. is this hard to fix? maybe a problem report would be useful? cheers. Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: > On 7/1/09, Paul B. Mahol wrote: > > On 7/1/09, Alexander Best wrote: > >> i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when > >> i run > >> ee > >> in > >> the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says "Program > >> exited > >> normally.". so it's not a program crash i guess. > >> Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: > >>> On 6/30/09, Alexander Best > >>> wrote: > >>> > hi there, > >>> > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i > >>> > open > >>> > `ee` in an > >>> > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to > >>> > enter > >>> > commands > >>> > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee > >>> > was > >>> > running > >>> > on > >>> > the output is a mess. > >>> > i'm running r195173 (HEAD). > >>> Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use? > > Actually I can, if I resize xterm window, ee will exit. > > You really should mentioned that you use awesome at first place. > Problems is that ee doesnt handle SIGWINCH properly. > ee on FreeBSD is linked with ncurses but new_curse.c from contrib/ee > is > only file that mentions SIGWINCH and that file is not part of > usr.bin/ee/Makefile From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 09:54:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91201065670 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A858FC15 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1377D3CFF1; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:54:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n619sJ3L002401; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:54:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:54:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Mike Barnard Message-Id: <20090701115419.164d75ba.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <7dc029620907010245p473d53ddoa967addbb4bb0dbe@mail.gmail.com> References: <7dc029620907010245p473d53ddoa967addbb4bb0dbe@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Google Earth on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:54:27 -0000 On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:45:52 +0300, Mike Barnard wrote: > LD_LIBRARY_PATH has that path in its entry. Is there something I am missing. If google earth program is a Linux program, have you installed and started the Linux ABI? Maybe the needed library will be required to be located in the /usr/compat/linux/ subtree. > Anybody managed to get it to work? Never tried, sorry. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 10:57:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE81106564A; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:57:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6F68FC08; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:57:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MLxUh-0004KM-JM; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:57:41 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MLxUg-0003ZE-L4; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:56:51 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61Aun4J062659; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:56:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n61Aun0E062658; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:56:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:56:49 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <20090701105649.GA62596@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090625110253.GA31443@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <10FCC74D-6D46-4112-AD89-BBB4C5933957@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <10FCC74D-6D46-4112-AD89-BBB4C5933957@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.2 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: gmirror per partition. Was: Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:57:43 -0000 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:41:13AM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:02 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > dev_taste(DEV,mirror/gm0) > > g_part_taste(PART,mirror/gm0) > > > > GEOM: mirror/gm0: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. > > GEOM: mirror/gm0: using the primary only -- recovery suggested. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > You created the mirror after the GPT, which means you destroyed > the GPT backup header. gmirror uses the last sector on the disk > for metadata and that by itself is a cause for various problems. > > It's better to use gmirror per partition. Like this? # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da0p2 gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/da0p2: Operation not permitted. # I've read some boot disk gmirror examples, e.g. http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror however, all examples I've seen are for i386, talking about MBR, fdisk and bsdlabel, so these are not directly applicable to ia64. Application of gvinum for boot disk on ia64 is not clear either. It seems gvinum section of the handbook, 21.9, is also based on i386. Please advise many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 12:12:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84633106566C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB1F8FC18 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so700170bwz.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:12:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=S5KVVYDxmLvDwfHWHMBgwg2BeNWPhzVoMZ5pNcZgeTo=; b=bTukxXc8gja5LC10L2j6lsXfaVKsLsPKZ3YwArSeNBp9AqzxJe00UDKVZewSXSWuDT fM1tZEUf6yEwnIQM8YxVEjRS00pNxirCZcSIsEifFzjQnryQlv9LkM/l1isvvW8qD0l4 CShHuftQ+3T4rDSUNhF0JL5O9ELBk5chFgKj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OnnVZ6KDJEFKHeoNQXz1VVub5sZRDvff93WTStsSQwRRvAJl5iOBv4VckqflaP6Mu7 cW5bLt9UxfYmVTU7nGTxsq3VtKM8RA5FYKC+brKAfFatka0Ek8pfE76EVNCzi/CGhS0x aElSeyyjKx/ItGha9K4kMH1f6a/1QvxLnf2u4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.66.2 with SMTP id l2mr9451069bki.177.1246450345633; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:12:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3a142e750907010212t61001359md700e573147ea00b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:12:25 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750907010512x20667f5by864bbce6d2c7812@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Alexander Best Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange ee behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:12:27 -0000 On 7/1/09, Alexander Best wrote: > oh. i see. is this hard to fix? maybe a problem report would be useful? Not hard. Please report problem to freebsd developers because everything points it is FreeBSD problem. > > cheers. > > Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: >> On 7/1/09, Paul B. Mahol wrote: >> > On 7/1/09, Alexander Best wrote: >> >> i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when >> >> i run >> >> ee >> >> in >> >> the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says "Program >> >> exited >> >> normally.". so it's not a program crash i guess. > >> >> Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: >> >>> On 6/30/09, Alexander Best >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > hi there, > >> >>> > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i >> >>> > open >> >>> > `ee` in an >> >>> > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to >> >>> > enter >> >>> > commands >> >>> > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee >> >>> > was >> >>> > running >> >>> > on >> >>> > the output is a mess. > >> >>> > i'm running r195173 (HEAD). > >> >>> Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use? > >> > Actually I can, if I resize xterm window, ee will exit. >> > You really should mentioned that you use awesome at first place. > >> Problems is that ee doesnt handle SIGWINCH properly. >> ee on FreeBSD is linked with ncurses but new_curse.c from contrib/ee >> is >> only file that mentions SIGWINCH and that file is not part of >> usr.bin/ee/Makefile > > -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 13:08:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3416D1065672 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DE38FC24 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atomic.dyndns.org (athedsl-4493768.home.otenet.gr [94.71.93.208]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n61D8bQY020500; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:08:44 +0300 Message-ID: <4A4B5FD5.1090604@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:08:37 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <4A4B0E8E.4090501@otenet.gr> <4A4B2C64.4040508@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <4A4B2C64.4040508@gmx.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Failing to show 'Password:' prompt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:08:49 -0000 Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > Manolis Kiagias wrote: >> This morning my server was unresponsive both from ssh and through >> http. The only thing that is different on this system on a 1st of >> month, is a dump job that runs through periodic (on a mostly inactive >> system). >> >> Visiting the console, I discovered the system was still up and >> displaying login prompt on all vtys, but after typing a username, the >> password prompt would never appear. Keyboard was responsive and I >> could even switch between keyboard layouts (English/Greek). Plugging >> and and unplugging an external USB drive, showed the kernel messages >> on tty0. Still, I could not get it to display a password prompt and >> had to hard reboot it. >> >> I can't find anything in /var/log/messages either - it stops at 5.25 >> in the morning. And the dump was not performed either (and there are >> no traces about it in the log). >> >> What kind of crash could cause the password prompt to not display? >> Ideas? > > Geia Manoli, > > A deadlock somewhere in the filesystem code would expose > such behavior. Other subsystems may continue to work, but > some operations, somehow related to that filesystem code, > will wait - forever - for some locks to be released. > > I've seen such behavior in early RELENG_6 branch with regard > to UFS snapshots. > > Nikos > > Thanks Niko, This is quite possible actually as I was using dump -L and the USB backup disk was still mounted when I looked at the console messages. I'll check the PR database for dump-related problems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 14:08:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E9F1065670 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475708FC15 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: (qmail 81259 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jul 2009 14:08:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gecko3.bs.net) (216.220.115.212) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 1 Jul 2009 14:08:47 -0000 From: mfv To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, arek@wup-katowice.pl Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:08:46 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-STABLE; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A4AFC07.6030808@wup-katowice.pl> In-Reply-To: <4A4AFC07.6030808@wup-katowice.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907011008.46084.mrkvrg@acm.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Portaudit strange behavior. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:08:49 -0000 On Wednesday, 1 July 2009 02:02:47 Arek Czereszewski wrote: > Hi, > > On all my servers I have portaudit version 0.5.13 > If I try update audit database (by hand or from periodic script) > I have: > > # portaudit -Fd > auditfile.tbz 100% of 53 kB 39 kBps > portaudit: Database too old. > Old database restored. > portaudit: Download failed. > # > > When I change > > ${portaudit_sites="http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/"} > to > ${portaudit_sites="http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/"} > Like was in 0.5.12 > # portaudit -Fd > auditfile.tbz 100% of 56 kB 34 kBps > New database installed. > Database created: Wed Jul 1 07:40:02 CEST 2009 > Update work fine. > > Anyone have behavior like I have? > > regards > Arek Hello Arek, I've had the same problem for the last few days. Thanks for a temporary solution. Marek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 15:14:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75B5106564A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6727A8FC22 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: (qmail 89705 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jul 2009 15:14:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gecko3.bs.net) (216.220.115.212) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 1 Jul 2009 15:14:11 -0000 From: mfv To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:14:10 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-STABLE; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A4AFC07.6070508@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A4AFC07.6070508@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907011114.10918.mrkvrg@acm.org> Cc: Roland Smith , Manish Jain Subject: Re: Questions on portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:14:14 -0000 On Wednesday, 1 July 2009 02:02:47 Manish Jain wrote: > Hi, > > I am using portmaster on FreeBSD-7.2 to keep my ports up to date. When > there are multiple ports to be updated, portmaster will fork off child > processes. Does each child start 'make fetch' in the background ? I ask > this because the parent process attached to the console reports very low > data transfer rates (in the range of 0.7 to 4.0 kBps, while normally I > get 30 to 35 kBps). > > Further, how can portmaster be tuned to automatically ignore ports which > are actually marked as IGNORE in the port directory ? This is not > covered in the manpage. > > While doing portmaster -a, I have only managed to stop portmaster from > building exactly one port specified with the -x option. Can I get to > stop multiple ports from being built ? Is there regular expression > support for the -x option ? > > Thanks for any help. Hello Manish, Regarding your last point about excluding particular ports I always thought that it would be convenient to have a section in /usr/local/etc/portmaster.rc and/or $HOME/.portmasterrc to identify these particular ports. I prefer to have all this information in one place rather than scattered over many subdirectories. I had the same problem with trying to have multiple instances of "-x" but gave up and used +IGNOREME instead. Some time ago I succeeded with a regular expression but it became overly complicated if more than two ports were to be excluded. Nevertheless, I use portmaster daily and am very pleased with it. With thanks to Doug Barton. Cheers... Marek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 15:30:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB30106564A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982B48FC18 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MM1lA-00027c-HL; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:30:18 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MM1l9-0002WC-Rv; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:30:08 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61FU7CX064028; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:30:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n61FU7SM064027; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:30:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:30:07 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: mfv Message-ID: <20090701153007.GA64008@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <4A4AFC07.6070508@gmail.com> <200907011114.10918.mrkvrg@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200907011114.10918.mrkvrg@acm.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Roland Smith , Manish Jain , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions on portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:30:20 -0000 On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 11:14:10AM -0400, mfv wrote: > On Wednesday, 1 July 2009 02:02:47 Manish Jain wrote: > excluded. Nevertheless, I use portmaster daily and am very pleased with it. > > With thanks to Doug Barton. portmaster rules, excellent tool, Doug is a star! -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 17:05:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13183106566C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:05:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-out3.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-OUT3.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF0C8FC0A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:05:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,326,1243807200"; d="scan'208";a="7302824" Received: from zivmaildisp2.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER01.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.143]) by zivm-relay3.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 01 Jul 2009 19:05:51 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER01.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id 7C9881B0764; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:05:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:05:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: "Paul B. Mahol" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3a142e750907010512x20667f5by864bbce6d2c7812@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange ee behaviour X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:05:53 -0000 thanks for the help. i submitted a PR (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=136223). cheers. alex Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: > On 7/1/09, Alexander Best wrote: > > oh. i see. is this hard to fix? maybe a problem report would be > > useful? > Not hard. Please report problem to freebsd developers because > everything > points it is FreeBSD problem. > > cheers. > > Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: > >> On 7/1/09, Paul B. Mahol wrote: > >> > On 7/1/09, Alexander Best > >> > wrote: > >> >> i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). > >> >> when > >> >> i run > >> >> ee > >> >> in > >> >> the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says "Program > >> >> exited > >> >> normally.". so it's not a program crash i guess. > >> >> Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01: > >> >>> On 6/30/09, Alexander Best > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > hi there, > >> >>> > i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i > >> >>> > open > >> >>> > `ee` in an > >> >>> > xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to > >> >>> > enter > >> >>> > commands > >> >>> > which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window > >> >>> > ee > >> >>> > was > >> >>> > running > >> >>> > on > >> >>> > the output is a mess. > >> >>> > i'm running r195173 (HEAD). > >> >>> Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use? > >> > Actually I can, if I resize xterm window, ee will exit. > >> > You really should mentioned that you use awesome at first place. > >> Problems is that ee doesnt handle SIGWINCH properly. > >> ee on FreeBSD is linked with ncurses but new_curse.c from > >> contrib/ee > >> is > >> only file that mentions SIGWINCH and that file is not part of > >> usr.bin/ee/Makefile From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 17:25:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51FA1065676 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7888FC13 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n61HPXcx002466; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:25:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B8B89BA9B; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:25:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:25:32 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Manish Jain Message-ID: <20090701172532.GA37269@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A4AFC07.6070508@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A4AFC07.6070508@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Questions on portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:25:35 -0000 --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 11:32:47AM +0530, Manish Jain wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I am using portmaster on FreeBSD-7.2 to keep my ports up to date. When=20 > there are multiple ports to be updated, portmaster will fork off child=20 > processes. Does each child start 'make fetch' in the background ? The fetches are not done in parallel. > I ask=20 > this because the parent process attached to the console reports very low= =20 > data transfer rates (in the range of 0.7 to 4.0 kBps, while normally I=20 > get 30 to 35 kBps). This is not enough data to ascertain there is a problem with fetch. If you are fetching from a busy site, or via a busy upstream channel it can be slow. > Further, how can portmaster be tuned to automatically ignore ports which= =20 > are actually marked as IGNORE in the port directory ? touch /var/db/pkg//+IGNOREME > This is not covered in the manpage. It is. Look in the FILES section of portmaster(8). =20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpLnAwACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUwVwCfToaIRUXxYFT8vIzxdT/Cpiap jTUAn2WpOPx+bBDdIKAA9u9wrJ4p0P/z =+sP3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 17:48:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB8F106566C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com (mail-gx0-f210.google.com [209.85.217.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEA18FC1F for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so305109gxk.19 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:48:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TBS0oo1i+c/qmeBXo3N+fI/Ibh1dV6IUjimg7wFXUUU=; b=g+kB8T9ItaTkUUc6pbzAz2NadIQ9VVg32tiJIkfYPV518lpomnM38piWeQxb3UwedC F6NERZZCpybSIULW+XexWN6wZVJ4NDAJCtlUJDhX/Bp377/8i9WSmGMELz9rdTwlCKq+ RfJfpCsqY/+ZaYHUHlt773W1YJ5rT175TmkJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=UUaRHoZ6Nr/kw32Yli11V0q91J4wQAtWW3obbfOip7hUxCaAFU6ND/WnpWF+iMqGZJ BMZ7cLDbPGI+ygNwQndQJs311uIYU0cjZ5yg+C34M2bZPhhFUheo+uVxdMxnuPmBQ0Zq k3WOyRfn5cvK3QFUVVW+MHPHH2AcBa2a6Tpn8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.32.11 with SMTP id a11mr2655207ibd.38.1246470489677; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:48:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3d5d3ca90907011048t1a096865iceaa3b82c1af82f4@mail.gmail.com> From: Robert Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Wireless NICs on 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:48:10 -0000 I've been trying to get a Linksys WMP54G v. 4.1 to work on FBSD 7.2. It sort of works with the ral driver; I can set the ssid and inet and other values, but it won't associate with the access point or establish a useful connection. I've tried compiling ndis drivers for both the Linksys and a Belkin F5D7000 v. 7032 that I bought for my XP box. Both drivers crash the system when they load, leading to a reboot. Groveling through vmcore doesn't give me any clues about why the Belkin ndis crashes. The Linksys crash sends a message that it can't open /compat/ndis/rt2561s.bin. I googled for the firmware files and put them in /compat/ndis, but ndis still crashes. Both cards work fine on the XP box. Has anyone gotten either card to work on 7.2, either by using the ral driver or by compiling an ndis driver? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 17:55:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1ED1065670 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89E88FC14 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so908818bwz.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:55:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0YjkN7gUiZs7DfZE236D4KIk4UYQY5gS9f8Uewy9xG4=; b=qBbZoCTjiVeu4YswQ9kEQoBk7rO7zJrXPCmB5Dhr+ruR3LfC5/nFyBdcBnjpWd0XHc wbwsZoALjb2oBxNEm+WhBnBQ23RKqdu2IhzA1/2K8KqasT4lKaPe5yoT3Z1c11Ep6O/N +0lLG7W9LcPdKsJK2jvSLC0GoJWdE4MDiUjSI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mAfJ+ipI0ala2yTtOGnLadxQEAHkRg/QqifAtK0pwM3e+WBGhx4EXL/ddMLpRMETRj o4NuE/xK4u9bA6Lw/sHvoYK52UAQT8NHWQ2/JLCMKZwSkSMYeoSYcv5V3XYfjFWAVFbZ Bgg0mAObLS7PcvUgQzd59Pl2iU1rZVQO/3OFA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.65.65 with SMTP id h1mr9824259bki.18.1246470936518; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:55:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3d5d3ca90907011048t1a096865iceaa3b82c1af82f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d5d3ca90907011048t1a096865iceaa3b82c1af82f4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:55:36 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750907011055r3750fd54rb66612a4b110e090@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Robert Hall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:55:38 -0000 On 7/1/09, Robert Hall wrote: > I've been trying to get a Linksys WMP54G v. 4.1 to work on FBSD 7.2. > It sort of works with the ral driver; I can set the ssid and inet and > other values, but it won't associate with the access point or > establish a useful connection. Does it get any scan results? What kind of AP setup: NONE, WEP, WPA, WPA2 ... ? > > I've tried compiling ndis drivers for both the Linksys and a Belkin > F5D7000 v. 7032 that I bought for my XP box. Both drivers crash the > system when they load, leading to a reboot. Groveling through vmcore > doesn't give me any clues about why the Belkin ndis crashes. The > Linksys crash sends a message that it can't open > /compat/ndis/rt2561s.bin. I googled for the firmware files and put > them in /compat/ndis, but ndis still crashes. Both cards work fine on > the XP box. You are using i386 FreeBSD, right? > Has anyone gotten either card to work on 7.2, either by using the ral > driver or by compiling an ndis driver? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 18:01:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712B91065677 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:01:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trey@fastmail.fm) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC0B8FC17 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:01:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trey@fastmail.fm) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2963D3869E9; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:51:11 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: mO7xs60iydif539Dx5j91mUoxdVJAWtgQgssnlY2fca2 1246470667 Received: from localhost (h197.9.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net [98.18.9.197]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43DBA11B5; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:51:09 -0400 From: Trey Sizemore To: Tim Judd Message-ID: <20090701175109.GA13740@tbook.local> Mail-Followup-To: Tim Judd , Andrew Gould , freebsd-questions References: <4A4A2025.9020401@otenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: Andrew Gould , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:01:37 -0000 On Tue Jun 30, 2009 09:45AM, Tim Judd wrote: > On 6/30/09, Andrew Gould wrote: > > 2009/6/30 Manolis Kiagias : > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Hey all, > >> > >> Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased > >> to announce a GNOME-based one. > >> This includes a complete GNOME 2.26.2 desktop and also the > >> gnome-power-tools and gnome-fifth-toe package collections. > >> > >> As always, feedback is welcome. > >> > >> Manolis Kiagias > > > > It would be interesting to see how much demand exists for an > > installation DVD with KDE 3.5. (KDE lost a large amount of voter > > share in Linux Journal's last Readers' Choice Awards.) > > > > Does anyone know how long KDE 3.5 will be available in the ports? > > (Expecting its eventual demise, I switched to Gnome, then to XFCE4.) > > > > Andrew > > > When I run KDE, I run KDE4. I'm not asking for someone to generate a > KDE3.5 or KDE4 install medium, but where is the line? > > If we make XFCE4, and Gnome2.26, why not Enlightenment, Blackbox, > KDE3.5, KDE4, etc etc etc? > > > > Earlier, I made hints at a webGUI install (the install medium would > boot into X, basic setup (VESA driver @1024x768, 24 [or 16bit] > depth)), run firefox or another lightweight browser (even lynx in the > console if X fails to start) on it's own filesystem or over apache. > Once network configuration is done, you can pull the data sets for > your choice of WM from the internet. > > > I think this has potential, and would offer making it (already started > on it), but I think my statements went on deaf ears when addressed to > the broad public. > > So I'll ask again if anyone else would be interested in this. The > advantage is that on this webGUI install, you can offer it (secured of > course) over the internet for someone more technical to do the install > or configuring, including the same post-install configuration that > sysinstall offers. > > > > Anybody else think it's a good idea? Willing to take suggestions. > Would satisfy my "designing" and "creativity" mindset I'm in right > now. I would definitely like to see something like this. -- Cheers, Trey ---- This wasn't just plain terrible, this was fancy terrible. This was terrible with raisins in it. --Dorothy Parker Darwin tbook.local 9.7.0 i386 13:50 up 2 days, 17:55, 2 users, load averages: 0.54 0.36 0.41 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 18:04:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108D51065670 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B82E8FC1B for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so916880fxm.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:04:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=O+dXkkkdZa1DxHSFl857+JgqIP9fbQyB1hS0gOwvE8E=; b=x7HswYFG4cUei7XkieKwcqv+N5KnZ3XfxV3Dt7AfM/IfVbPckwaBvmYg+JRH0Vo6i4 ZQ7NV3L5TmSVe1Ws6ui6Q7hSSr5BwLsz7UYHbQpMN4oYeX5YnPY6t9GGHvWbvKW9K5w1 IUrgWTkuq4RedoPg6XqpyDPlIkw9JapDumUh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=q1Qljy0o/W8488qgW69LgHe/P+jzmWg7V95pcap4Jvb/RRQCmBg8YUv6mUi+AcjKe/ lBz0xGgkdnCkpgY1qdS//qtvtSkPmlsbVw37U31QyiX9NK+e/uy+2yE8yUs3Z6FY68cw KS/cqfsBFyNV2vzwc2+JSLYQdOqS5gd++Ifvg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.199 with SMTP id c7mr6448957fap.31.1246470000738; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:40:00 +0100 Message-ID: <755cb9fc0907011040o28b82cdbjd5760b139f797050@mail.gmail.com> From: Alexandre Vieira To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: scripting tip needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:04:55 -0000 Hi folks, I'm having a little problem. For exambe in ksh: $ z=0 $ y=1 $ x=aaaa $ eval `echo MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]`=$x $ echo ${MACHINE_DISK0[1]} aaaa My problem is getting back the value of the variable using variables to refer to the variable name (confusing). I.e $MACHINE_DISK$z[$y] . Using ${} works great when you only have a simple array but adding a variable in the middle of the variable name seems to ruin it. $ echo ${MACHINE_DISK0[$y]} aaaa $ echo ${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]} ksh: ${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]}: bad substitution Thanks in advance for any tip Cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 18:14:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A104106564A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:14:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCE08FC1E for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so1225306ewy.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.92.5 with SMTP id p5mr189993ebb.64.1246470303836; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nognu.de (pD9EA9395.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.234.147.149]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm3552784eyg.47.2009.07.01.10.45.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:45:32 +0200 From: Frank Steinborn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090701174532.GA14108@nognu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: FreeBSD on Cobalt RaQ 4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:14:43 -0000 Hi! I got a new toy here, a RaQ 4. As this thing has no real BIOS, it was even hard to get a custom Linux distro installed. For long time it was not even possible to use it with a Linux 2.6 kernel. This is resolved in the meantime, so I'm running Gentoo with an unmodified 2.6 at the moment. However, I'm absolutely not at home with Linux and I would *love* to have a FreeBSD on that thingy. As i figured out, there is a ROM on it with a mini-Linux, that will look for an ext2/ext3 filesystem and for an /vmlinux.bz2 on /boot. Then it boots from there. This is really strange and seems to rule out FreeBSD completely. However, I can't believe that noone on earth hadn't FreeBSD running on it :-) Any hint would be appreciated. As an alternative, i could live with OpenBSD/NetBSD too. Cheers :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 18:20:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C221065689 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:20:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348598FC26 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so1571307yxe.3 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:20:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TdLRPThCh5yQqr1J2a+45B3F4zCxaciysp/5pmoKI2k=; b=H/f2YmZMCfir1vYHqKgcppoa5Zxcy3sG/bT7klWPCi6DUMGTUM9dYFjw4X6OVkJ40O wYaDlV/IsxsiHzjBNAydd9rrYA+uXz2V5/fE6fZRQKmbOj/ZatoXbIQ9ffwzpsn/jjSN TXy+eQ9FrQWA9YnQCv1gWj64UUyQ2sBahqDXg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WRPSg0591hLtMpqZPqMzlDGHUr+YE02dvi78qoEV1Arp6Ll8nYMlfHOGikyb7KpMTC sf3fvlQ0t4jhd5rycNnHHMA82dGhkERdkPm42CqQ8ZvWg9OyS+lRor8H4bazz/Qmpxdp IRMH+aj/YTf7FFVCsyL5jqTpUy3oE6/DNsiZE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.20.3 with SMTP id d3mr2729437ibb.34.1246472414352; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:20:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3a142e750907011055r3750fd54rb66612a4b110e090@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d5d3ca90907011048t1a096865iceaa3b82c1af82f4@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907011055r3750fd54rb66612a4b110e090@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:20:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3d5d3ca90907011120h35b5e665gee30466ce72097e7@mail.gmail.com> From: Robert Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:20:17 -0000 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: > On 7/1/09, Robert Hall wrote: >> I've been trying to get a Linksys WMP54G v. 4.1 to work on FBSD 7.2. >> It sort of works with the ral driver; I can set the ssid and inet and >> other values, but it won't associate with the access point or >> establish a useful connection. > > Does it get any scan results? Yes. Scanning seems to work fine. > What kind of AP setup: NONE, WEP, WPA, WPA2 ... ? No security. >> I've tried compiling ndis drivers for both the Linksys and a Belkin >> F5D7000 v. 7032 that I bought for my XP box. Both drivers crash the >> system when they load, leading to a reboot. Groveling through vmcore >> doesn't give me any clues about why the Belkin ndis crashes. The >> Linksys crash sends a message that it can't open >> /compat/ndis/rt2561s.bin. I googled for the firmware files and put >> them in /compat/ndis, but ndis still crashes. Both cards work fine on >> the XP box. BTW, I'm not getting the open file failed message any longer, but the ndis driver still crashes the system. > You are using i386 FreeBSD, right? I should have posted this originally: $ uname -a FreeBSD stamfordbru.krig.net 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #3: Wed Jul 1 11:40:35 EDT 2009 root@stamfordbru.krig.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/STAMFORDBRU0 i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 18:44:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB6C1065675 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CHalbersma.12@westminster-mo.edu) Received: from mail1.westminster-mo.edu (mail1.westminster-mo.edu [204.184.63.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29218FC08 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CHalbersma.12@westminster-mo.edu) Received: from beastie (10.11.60.130) by mail1.westminster-mo.edu (10.1.1.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.375.2; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:34:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:35:15 -0500 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: Christopher Ryan Halbersma Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090701120020.1C9AF1065675@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20090701120020.1C9AF1065675@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Linux) Subject: Re: Google Earth on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:44:59 -0000 > On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:45:52 +0300, Mike Barnard > wrote: >> LD_LIBRARY_PATH has that path in its entry. Is there something I am >> missing. > If google earth program is a Linux program, have you installed and > started the Linux ABI? Maybe the needed library will be required > to be located in the /usr/compat/linux/ subtree. >> Anybody managed to get it to work? > Never tried, sorry. Google earth is working on my box. But I am running 7.2 Release. However it is touchy. It will often crash the X server, it's slow and if I change Virtual Desktops during startup It will crash very fast. CRH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 18:50:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E991065673 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCB98FC14 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so377505fge.12 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:50:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=REkxvOkK1pbyVnFO5nrshLReDxJYHIpM/UF0YNrMwQs=; b=vF+dwljpJlByt89MwoPXQLGgM2X/AiS1N3RQG9yZWQb5RNKGIwjsrCNLy/Os8YAe6j vJwSSUiZlQelmPiNBZy+/iaozutdNVLqLlfrOBMYT3Ozfx94dAeMVb+uSV7N2rbJnqIM xwpxzKXAke4AEqtRV6ptaEDtUc0cwjebI8GHU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; b=iUrjsXailBt6wJQf7jd7jfICZN+WKGLKXKGcv98auDwUKQGjbVun2ukzshidQzCRDl tRMiP/cAkdheOjb0okOs9dHN6Yj6bOIWN/heoGK9Hh+LJ8C5YyNc608FxFKhKvIe7mM7 +v/r4lHALbmTIcCsn+p3Ts9c5jf1L7qeGeqe4= Received: by 10.86.76.4 with SMTP id y4mr4262425fga.22.1246474232015; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.0.118? ([200.175.53.23]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm2159933fgg.2.2009.07.01.11.50.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:50:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Trey Sizemore , freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <20090701175109.GA13740@tbook.local> References: <4A4A2025.9020401@otenet.gr> <20090701175109.GA13740@tbook.local> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:50:24 -0300 Message-Id: <1246474224.67734.18.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:50:33 -0000 Em Qua, 2009-07-01 Ă s 13:51 -0400, Trey Sizemore escreveu: > On Tue Jun 30, 2009 09:45AM, Tim Judd wrote: > > On 6/30/09, Andrew Gould wrote: > > > 2009/6/30 Manolis Kiagias : > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >> Hash: SHA1 > > >> > > >> Hey all, > > >> > > >> Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased > > >> to announce a GNOME-based one. > > >> This includes a complete GNOME 2.26.2 desktop and also the > > >> gnome-power-tools and gnome-fifth-toe package collections. > > >> > > >> As always, feedback is welcome. Humm ... interesting... I am doing the same thing here (for personal use), besides gnome2-fith-toe, and power-tools, ARCH is AMD64 I have: totem-xine (better because of snapshot, and zoom in/out) ffmpeg svn (better libavcodec) dvdstyler 1.7, with wxsvg 1.0R, and ffmpeg svn (new features, new option menus and navigation tools) mencode, mplayer last release (linked against libavcodec, faster, and with swscale, in ffmeg) pgadmin3 (linked to work with UTF8) glib20 patched to solve the evolution slow start. mono 2.4.2 and companies (monodevelop, gnome-subtitles...) jdk1.6p14 (java 1.6 last bsd patches) openoffice 3.2 M50 (last patches from openoffice team avidemux 2.4.2 (better and faster, with last seamonkey software) epiphany linked agains the webkit-gtk (works better for me than the firefox2 render engine) Linux 2.4.2 and F8 (you choose) Flashplugin9 running on AMD64 with few cpu overhead ZFS BASED rootFS , with var, usr, tmp.... on ZFS too GDM version 1.8 whtin the old tools (gdmsetup, conf files....) Xorg last version with working HAL and DBUS (including mouse and keyboard mapping). If there is interest in the FreeBSD community I will try to put an image in internet (ONE pkg_add installs them all). Hope is usefull, SĂ©rgio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 19:16:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E69D1065670 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:16:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5C08FC12 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:16:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74089EB4E39; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:16:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694A1450E9; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:16:30 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kiVEcd3x0ZAU; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:16:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl307-134.kln.forthnet.gr [188.4.31.134]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30C6450D0; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:16:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61JGP9g000437; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:16:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n61JGPEg000436; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:16:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Alexandre Vieira References: <755cb9fc0907011040o28b82cdbjd5760b139f797050@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:16:25 +0300 In-Reply-To: <755cb9fc0907011040o28b82cdbjd5760b139f797050@mail.gmail.com> (Alexandre Vieira's message of "Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:40:00 +0100") Message-ID: <87tz1wqkmu.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scripting tip needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:16:35 -0000 On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:40:00 +0100, Alexandre Vieira wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm having a little problem. > > For exambe in ksh: > > $ z=0 > $ y=1 > $ x=aaaa > $ eval `echo MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]`=$x > $ echo ${MACHINE_DISK0[1]} > aaaa > > My problem is getting back the value of the variable using variables to > refer to the variable name (confusing). I.e $MACHINE_DISK$z[$y] . > > Using ${} works great when you only have a simple array but adding a > variable in the middle of the variable name seems to ruin it. > > $ echo ${MACHINE_DISK0[$y]} > aaaa > $ echo ${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]} > ksh: ${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]}: bad substitution My own short piece of (slightly off-topic) advice is: ``If you find yourself using arrays in bash, ksh or another shell, now is a *very* good time to consider a more advanced scripting language, like Perl or Python.'' Trying to coerce shell quoting to do a sensible thing with array syntax is error-prone, annoying and --very often-- a waste of your time: Using an interactive language like Python you can actually *test* the code as you are writing it. This is a major win most of the time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 19:25:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88C41065673 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F818FC08 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MM5Qs-000BwI-AC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:25:26 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:25:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Cloning to different disks. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:25:29 -0000 Hi all, I have serveral machines that are running different versions of FreeBSD. Each machine only has 1 hard disk, but they all have a CD ROM and USB = available. I have built a pristine system with all packages and ports installed = that I need. I am now wanting to clone this to all the machines. The dificulty being = that they all have various Disk sizes and interfaces (i.e. SCSI 3, SAS, = etc). I am wondering how everyone else might handle this situation. BTW, The = new build uses a standard Generic kernel, i386 build. I was thinking of: Booting with a live CD, refdisking, labeling, then using dumps from = memory stick. Comments please, -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 19:40:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD0E106564A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A136A8FC21 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atomic.dyndns.org (athedsl-4493768.home.otenet.gr [94.71.93.208]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n61JeEIa012886; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:40:14 +0300 Message-ID: <4A4BBB9E.5080008@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:40:14 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cloning to different disks. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:40:17 -0000 Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > I have serveral machines that are running different versions of FreeBSD. > > Each machine only has 1 hard disk, but they all have a CD ROM and USB available. > > I have built a pristine system with all packages and ports installed that I need. > > I am now wanting to clone this to all the machines. The dificulty being that they all have various Disk sizes and interfaces (i.e. SCSI 3, SAS, etc). > > I am wondering how everyone else might handle this situation. BTW, The new build uses a standard Generic kernel, i386 build. > > I was thinking of: > > Booting with a live CD, refdisking, labeling, then using dumps from memory stick. > > Comments please, > > -Grant > Done that and it works. Don't forget also to install the boot blocks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 19:49:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135AB106566C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57DF8FC13 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:49:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MM5nj-000Cfa-OM; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:49:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3EFD164553E546D89AD5C16BF66081F5@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: "Manolis Kiagias" References: <4A4BBB9E.5080008@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:48:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cloning to different disks. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:49:06 -0000 Thanks Sir! What is the easiest way to make sure the new disk is bootable. Also, it just occured to me....we have a few different versions of SCSI drives SCSI-2 SAS etc. Can I assume the the da driver will handle all these OK...ie. should not see any fstab problems? -Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manolis Kiagias" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:40 PM Subject: Re: Cloning to different disks. > Grant Peel wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I have serveral machines that are running different versions of FreeBSD. >> >> Each machine only has 1 hard disk, but they all have a CD ROM and USB >> available. >> >> I have built a pristine system with all packages and ports installed that >> I need. >> >> I am now wanting to clone this to all the machines. The dificulty being >> that they all have various Disk sizes and interfaces (i.e. SCSI 3, SAS, >> etc). >> >> I am wondering how everyone else might handle this situation. BTW, The >> new build uses a standard Generic kernel, i386 build. >> >> I was thinking of: >> >> Booting with a live CD, refdisking, labeling, then using dumps from >> memory stick. >> >> Comments please, >> >> -Grant >> > > Done that and it works. Don't forget also to install the boot blocks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 20:08:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5641065670 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08DB8FC1C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::2]) by wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61K88NF004462; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:08:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61Ju2ka001744; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:56:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n61Ju1mv001741; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:56:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:56:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Grant Peel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cloning to different disks. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:08:00 -0000 > Each machine only has 1 hard disk, but they all have a CD ROM and USB available. > > I have built a pristine system with all packages and ports installed that I need. > > I am now wanting to clone this to all the machines. The dificulty being that they all have various Disk sizes and interfaces (i.e. SCSI 3, SAS, etc). > there is no difficulty. tar up your set to file, on disk or available on network (NFS for example) boot from live CD, make disklabels, do newfs and untar your set on each machine, then change /etc/rc.conf - like hostname and IP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 20:09:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6212F106568B for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:09:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4ACF8FC27 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:09:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::2]) by wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61K9H0P004475; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:09:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61JvBDR001750; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:57:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n61JvBvu001747; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:57:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:57:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Grant Peel In-Reply-To: <3EFD164553E546D89AD5C16BF66081F5@GRANT> Message-ID: References: <4A4BBB9E.5080008@otenet.gr> <3EFD164553E546D89AD5C16BF66081F5@GRANT> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Manolis Kiagias , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cloning to different disks. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:09:08 -0000 > > > What is the easiest way to make sure the new disk is bootable. bsdlabel -B disk (or disks1 and fdisk -B disk if you use MBR partitions at all). > Also, it just occured to me....we have a few different versions of SCSI > drives SCSI-2 SAS etc. this is no difference > > Can I assume the the da driver will handle all these OK...ie. should not see > any fstab problems? just put right device names in fstab. nothing more From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 20:12:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434B2106564A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1B98FC12 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::2]) by wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61KCQ59004520; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:12:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61K0KhB001787; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:00:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n61K0KnK001784; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:00:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:00:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Frank Steinborn In-Reply-To: <20090701174532.GA14108@nognu.de> Message-ID: References: <20090701174532.GA14108@nognu.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Cobalt RaQ 4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:12:16 -0000 > As i figured out, there is a ROM on it with a mini-Linux, that will > look for an ext2/ext3 filesystem and for an /vmlinux.bz2 on /boot. > Then it boots from there. This is really strange and seems to rule out > FreeBSD completely. Looks like you'll have to rewrite /boot/loader sources to 1) access disk with it's "minilinux" interface, or directly by hardware 2) to look like vmlinux image. If it's ELF - should not be a problem, if not - look how linux kernel makefile convert ELF to this format and do the same. This ROM code may do some assumption where to load image in memory. If so - you have to link if to the same address. Not easy way i think but not that difficult if you can write C programs. > > However, I can't believe that noone on earth hadn't FreeBSD running > on it :-) > > Any hint would be appreciated. As an alternative, i could live with > OpenBSD/NetBSD too. i would even prefer linux than those ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 20:12:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2EC1065694; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C700D8FC18; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::2]) by wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61KD1NW004530; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:13:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61K0tcS001793; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:00:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n61K0sR7001790; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:00:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:00:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Anton Shterenlikht In-Reply-To: <20090701105649.GA62596@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> Message-ID: References: <20090625110253.GA31443@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <10FCC74D-6D46-4112-AD89-BBB4C5933957@mac.com> <20090701105649.GA62596@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org, Marcel Moolenaar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror per partition. Was: Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:12:57 -0000 >> It's better to use gmirror per partition. > > Like this? > > # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da0p2 > gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/da0p2: Operation not permitted. isn't that partition accessed by other process or mounted? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 20:13:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB330106576A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26D18FC0A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::2]) by wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61KDbDE004544; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:13:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61K1V4r001799; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:01:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n61K1Vbl001796; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:01:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:01:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Alexandre Vieira In-Reply-To: <755cb9fc0907011040o28b82cdbjd5760b139f797050@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <755cb9fc0907011040o28b82cdbjd5760b139f797050@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scripting tip needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:13:28 -0000 > > $ echo ${MACHINE_DISK0[$y]} > aaaa > $ echo ${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]} > ksh: ${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]}: bad substitution > > Thanks in advance for any tip install bash :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 20:14:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1B910657EC for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6574A8FC1F for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::2]) by wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61KEskB004560; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:14:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61K2miM001821; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:02:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n61K2mEQ001818; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:02:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:02:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <87tz1wqkmu.fsf@kobe.laptop> Message-ID: References: <755cb9fc0907011040o28b82cdbjd5760b139f797050@mail.gmail.com> <87tz1wqkmu.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Alexandre Vieira , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scripting tip needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:14:49 -0000 > Using an interactive language like Python you can actually *test* the > code as you are writing it. This is a major win most of the time. could you explain what you mean? You can and you have to test a code on any language be it bash, ksh python or C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 20:16:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B901065878 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:16:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D798D8FC12 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atomic.dyndns.org (athedsl-4493768.home.otenet.gr [94.71.93.208]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n61KFwb4030157; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:15:58 +0300 Message-ID: <4A4BC3FD.7040806@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:15:57 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: <4A4BBB9E.5080008@otenet.gr> <3EFD164553E546D89AD5C16BF66081F5@GRANT> In-Reply-To: <3EFD164553E546D89AD5C16BF66081F5@GRANT> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cloning to different disks. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:16:00 -0000 Grant Peel wrote: > Thanks Sir! > > > What is the easiest way to make sure the new disk is bootable. > > Also, it just occured to me....we have a few different versions of > SCSI drives SCSI-2 SAS etc. > > Can I assume the the da driver will handle all these OK...ie. should > not see any fstab problems? > > -Grant > > For fstab, I would consider labelling the partitions (see http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-glabel.html esp. the example at the end of the section). I am not very familiar with SCSI disks, but all should appear as 'da', the only problem is whether the drivers for the specific SCSI adapters are already in GENERIC. Otherwise, you would need to load them as modules or compile them in a custom kernel. To make sure your new disk is bootable: # fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0 (use actual device name of course) or if you just need a standard MBR (no custom F1 ... F2 boot menu at start): # fdisk -B -b /boot/mbr /dev/da0 Then install boot1 and boot2 in your boot slice: # bsdlabel -B /dev/da0s1 For more information, see this handbook section: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 21:10:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F2D1065677 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-out3.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-OUT3.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5A48FC0A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:10:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,328,1243807200"; d="scan'208";a="7317465" Received: from zivmaildisp2.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER05.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.143]) by zivm-relay3.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 01 Jul 2009 23:10:46 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER05.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id BE781614001; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:10:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:10:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:10:49 -0000 hi there, i've been getting this warning for ages now: (process:7757): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. and really like to get rid of it. i searched google but couldn't find a real solution. my locale settings are: LANG=C LC_CTYPE=de_DE.ISO8859-15 LC_COLLATE=en_GB.ISO8859-15 LC_TIME=de_DE.ISO8859-15 LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.ISO8859-15 LC_MONETARY=de_DE.ISO8859-15 LC_MESSAGES=en_GB.ISO8859-15 LC_ALL= i've tried various settings and the only way to get rid of the warning is settings LANG and LC_ALL to "C". if any of the variables isn't set to C the warning will come up again. the app that is triggering the warning is firefox. the strange thing is that all other gtk apps start without this warning except the acrobat reader which is however a linux app. i thought maybe the problem is being caused by linux-gtk2 port. i'm using the native freebsd firefox version but since i'm using linux plugins in firefox they might be causing the gtk warning. i did a `chroot /compat/linux bash` and ran locale (the linux version). this is the output: locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=C LC_CTYPE=de_DE.ISO8859-15 LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.ISO8859-15 LC_TIME=de_DE.ISO8859-15 LC_COLLATE=en_GB.ISO8859-15 LC_MONETARY=de_DE.ISO8859-15 LC_MESSAGES=en_GB.ISO8859-15 LC_PAPER="C" LC_NAME="C" LC_ADDRESS="C" LC_TELEPHONE="C" LC_MEASUREMENT="C" LC_IDENTIFICATION="C" LC_ALL= if i set LANG and LC_ALL to "C" under the native freebsd ENV and switch to the linux ENV locale's (linux version) output looks just fine: LANG=C LC_CTYPE="C" LC_NUMERIC="C" LC_TIME="C" LC_COLLATE="C" LC_MONETARY="C" LC_MESSAGES="C" LC_PAPER="C" LC_NAME="C" LC_ADDRESS="C" LC_TELEPHONE="C" LC_MEASUREMENT="C" LC_IDENTIFICATION="C" LC_ALL=C so i guess the GTK warning is in fact being triggered by the linux-gtk2 port. can anybody tell me what's wrong with the linux ENV locale settings? thanks in advance. alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 21:40:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11491065670 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5CE8FC16 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.76] (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4A2032960237E500 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:40:50 +0100 Message-ID: <4A4BD7E1.8010204@onetel.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:40:49 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: load kernel from different media X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:40:51 -0000 Hi all, I cannot boot my motherboard with the default kernel on 7.2-RELEASE (or any other iso's I have tried). It panics if device sbp is in the kernel. So far I've got things working by putting the hard disk in another machine, installed the OS and rebuilt a kernel without sbp, then returned the disk to my computer. That's ok for a one off install but this machine is supposed to be for messing around. Can I load a kernel from some other media? Eg boot from an install CD, interrupt the boot, load a modified kernel from a usb stick or installed hard drive and continue booting from the CD. At the boot prompt I can list disks with lsdev and I can load and unload a kernel from the media I booted from (obviously) but I can't see how to load a kernel from another disk. I checked man 8 loader and man 8 boot but couldn't see what I wanted, hopefully I didn't just miss it. If the answer is in there I would really appreciate a pointer. Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 21:57:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7227E106564A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DE18FC17 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:57:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n61LvUgn094165 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:57:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200907012157.n61LvUgn094165@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:57:30 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Oracle, php and a Fog of Confusion oci_connect X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:57:41 -0000 I have a fragment of php code which connects to an external Oracle data base. It looks mostly like: We have had php5 installed on the system in question for a couple of years and just successfully installed linux-oracle-instantclient-sqlplus. The info from php says it understands shared libraries. If I run the code fragment via php using a script starting with #! /usr/local/bin/php I get # Fatal error: Call to undefined function oci_connect() in /usr/home/martin/tmp/qtest on line 4 I am not terribly surprised since, unless a shared library changed, php is the same old php we have had all this time. Basically, I am confused as to what I need to do next to weld the tail on the donkey.:-) Somehow, this all has to fit together to produce the connection to the Oracle server. The linux-oracle-instantclient-sqlplus pkg-descr file says: Oracle instant client - SQLPlus distribution Instant Client allows you to run your applications without installing the standard Oracle client or having an ORACLE_HOME. OCI, OCCI, ODBC, and JDBC applications work without modification, while using significantly less disk space than before. Even SQL*Plus can be used with Instant Client. No recompile, no hassle. Any suggestion? Obviously the php application hasn't gotten wind of the instantclient yet. Martin McCormick Systems Engineer 405 744-7572 Stillwater, OK Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 22:12:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999DC1065670 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188618FC14 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420A3EB5325; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 01:12:48 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3492F450D0; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 01:12:48 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mZGT-Aq9wmId; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 01:12:48 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl177-174.kln.forthnet.gr [62.1.250.174]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C342B4503F; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 01:12:47 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n61L8MYS001112; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:08:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n61L7r29001111; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:07:53 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Wojciech Puchar References: <755cb9fc0907011040o28b82cdbjd5760b139f797050@mail.gmail.com> <87tz1wqkmu.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:07:53 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Wojciech Puchar's message of "Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:02:48 +0200 (CEST)") Message-ID: <87k52saz86.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Alexandre Vieira , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scripting tip needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:12:52 -0000 On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:02:48 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Using an interactive language like Python you can actually *test* the >> code as you are writing it. This is a major win most of the time. > > could you explain what you mean? You can and you have to test a code on > any language be it bash, ksh python or C Yes. I mean that one can directly interact with the interpret in a REPL prompt, doing stuff like: >>> import re >>> devre = re.compile(r'(/dev/\S+)\s+(\S+)\s.*$') >>> devre <_sre.SRE_Pattern object at 0x28462780> >>> devre.match('/dev/ad0s1d 1012974 390512 541426 42% /var') <_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x28432e78> >>> devre.match('/dev/ad0s1d 1012974 390512 541426 42% /var').groups() ('/dev/ad0s1d', '1012974') >>> devre = >>> re.compile(r'(/dev/\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+).*$') >>> devre.match('/dev/ad0s1d 1012974 390512 541426 42% /var').groups() ('/dev/ad0s1d', '1012974', '390512', '541426', '42%', '/var') See how I am 'refining' the initial regular expression without ever leaving the Python prompt? That sort of interactivity is entirely lost when you have to edit a file, save it, switch screen(1) windows or type ^Z to background the editor, run a script, watch it fail and repeat. Then I can keep testing bits and pieces of code: >>> from subprocess import Popen, PIPE >>> pipe = Popen(['df', '-k'], shell=False, stdout=PIPE).stdout >>> for l in pipe: ... m = devre.match(l) ... if m: ... print "device %s, size %ld KB" % (m.group(1), long(m.group(2))) ... device /dev/ad0s1a, size 1012974 KB device /dev/ad0s1d, size 1012974 KB device /dev/ad0s1e, size 2026030 KB device /dev/ad0s1f, size 10154158 KB device /dev/ad0s1g, size 284455590 KB device /dev/md0, size 19566 KB >>> So piping df output to a Python bit of code works! That's nice. Then once I have a 'rough idea' of how I want the script to work, I can refactor a bit the repetitive bits: >>> def devsize(line): ... m = devre.match(line) ... if m: ... return (m.group(1), m.group(2)) ... >>> devsize('/dev/ad0s1d 1012974 390512 541426 42% /var') ('/dev/ad0s1d', '1012974') So here's a short function to return a nice 2-item tuple with two values (device name, number of 1 KB blocks). Can we pipe df output through it? >>> pipe = Popen(['df', '-k'], shell=False, stdout=PIPE).stdout >>> pipe = Popen(['df', '-k'], shell=False, stdout=PIPE).stdout >>> map(devsize, pipe.readlines()) [ None, ('/dev/ad0s1a', '1012974'), None, ('/dev/ad0s1d', '1012974'), ('/dev/ad0s1e', '2026030'), ('/dev/ad0s1f', '10154158'), ('/dev/ad0s1g', '284455590'), None, None, None, None, None, None, None, None, None, None, None, None, None, None, ('/dev/md0', '19566'), None] >>> It looks we can do that too, but the tuple list may be more useful if we trim the null items in the process: >>> pipe = Popen(['df', '-k'], shell=False, stdout=PIPE).stdout >>> [t for t in map(devsize, pipe.readlines()) if t] [ ('/dev/ad0s1a', '1012974'), ('/dev/ad0s1d', '1012974'), ('/dev/ad0s1e', '2026030'), ('/dev/ad0s1f', '10154158'), ('/dev/ad0s1g', '284455590'), ('/dev/md0', '19566') ] So there it is. A nice structure, supported by the core of the language, using a readable, easy syntax, and listing all the /dev nodes of my laptop along with their sizes in KBytes. The entire thing was built 'piece by piece', in the same Python session, and I now have not only a 'rough idea' of how the code should work, but also a working copy of the code in my history. Note the complete *lack* of care about how to append to a list, how to create dynamic pairs of devicename-size tuples, how to map all elements of a list through a function, and more importantly the complete and utter lack of any sort of '"${[]}"' quoting for variable names, values, nested expansions, and so on. That's what I am talking about. Shell scripts are nice, but if we are not constrained for some reason to use only /bin/sh or ksh, there's no excuse for wasting hours upon hours to decipher cryptic quoting rules and exceptional edge-cases of "black quoting magic", just to get a short job done. Being able to _easily_ use higher level structures than a plain 'stream of bytes' is nice :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 22:26:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17021065672 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CB08FC12 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1044667fxm.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:26:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fLTs/xWIxwhjnV7GbqxoSWuZwre6KbrZ2ROaTG+t20k=; b=Qx8zDOBbpd/ZT782oDTdtn9RFUs+TakpP7EOVxfhG/mL9pIOv42Rpps/Suf3QZRCAI jJOUGHm00YjtiLqA7v3Cx2szOl0u8nSvavWE4BIgfIsMjtScA3satMHwVgPMF3w3qCVj TEVKemNK9taa+anAj/p9d1s6qbiuU5cB9W7c0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GGn6VdxynBMTXgDxYja3HxNQDpeoOREEI+jlbYwuSpTWN4DuZlTZO8vprjMMVeQeRx YSG6NkQCwj0A9meLNk2CSOmNFJ1/EQPB0Ubp+ia6jX8zZTl57ld12Vqiuc9lj8ES1Pvr YrW6/pf2W9c2/9hiCLK1RXxzXW1KLXYq8WKcA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.65.65 with SMTP id h1mr10056859bki.18.1246487211049; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:26:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3d5d3ca90907011120h35b5e665gee30466ce72097e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d5d3ca90907011048t1a096865iceaa3b82c1af82f4@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907011055r3750fd54rb66612a4b110e090@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907011120h35b5e665gee30466ce72097e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:26:51 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750907011526ka68c664s3606fdc9b4ad2889@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Robert Hall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:26:53 -0000 On 7/1/09, Robert Hall wrote: > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: >> On 7/1/09, Robert Hall wrote: >>> I've been trying to get a Linksys WMP54G v. 4.1 to work on FBSD 7.2. >>> It sort of works with the ral driver; I can set the ssid and inet and >>> other values, but it won't associate with the access point or >>> establish a useful connection. >> >> Does it get any scan results? > > Yes. Scanning seems to work fine. And what about TX/RX signal? >> What kind of AP setup: NONE, WEP, WPA, WPA2 ... ? > > No security. > >>> I've tried compiling ndis drivers for both the Linksys and a Belkin >>> F5D7000 v. 7032 that I bought for my XP box. Both drivers crash the >>> system when they load, leading to a reboot. Groveling through vmcore >>> doesn't give me any clues about why the Belkin ndis crashes. The >>> Linksys crash sends a message that it can't open >>> /compat/ndis/rt2561s.bin. I googled for the firmware files and put >>> them in /compat/ndis, but ndis still crashes. Both cards work fine on >>> the XP box. > > BTW, I'm not getting the open file failed message any longer, but the > ndis driver still crashes the system. Could you put backtrace somewhere? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug-gdb.html >> You are using i386 FreeBSD, right? > > I should have posted this originally: > $ uname -a > FreeBSD stamfordbru.krig.net 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #3: Wed > Jul 1 11:40:35 EDT 2009 > root@stamfordbru.krig.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/STAMFORDBRU0 i386 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 22:40:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877EC106566C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@tanis.us) Received: from que31.charter.net (que31.charter.net [209.225.8.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BB58FC0C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@tanis.us) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090701222210.GHI3344.mta21.charter.net@imp10>; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:22:10 -0400 Received: from pandora.tanis.us ([75.137.190.160]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id AmN91c00J3U5Nf705mN9pm; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:22:10 -0400 Received: by pandora.tanis.us (Postfix, from userid 80) id 1965FB855; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 72.243.22.249 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user james) by tanis.us with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:22:21 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:22:21 -0400 From: james@tanis.us To: "Wojciech Puchar" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Grant Peel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cloning to different disks. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:40:04 -0000 >> Each machine only has 1 hard disk, but they all have a CD ROM and USB >> available. >> >> I have built a pristine system with all packages and ports installed >> that I need. >> >> I am now wanting to clone this to all the machines. The dificulty being >> that they all have various Disk sizes and interfaces (i.e. SCSI 3, SAS, >> etc). >> > there is no difficulty. > > tar up your set to file, on disk or available on network (NFS for example) > > boot from live CD, make disklabels, do newfs and untar your set on each > machine, then change /etc/rc.conf - like hostname and IP If he set up the original on the box with the smallest drive really he need only make an image with dd on to a usb drive, boot to a live disk on the new machine, and write the image to the new disk. On disks with compatible interfaces you could temporarily install the drive and skip the usb portion. After the write he'll need to mount the new drive and modify rc.conf and fstab to the correct settings -- other then that he should be good. No disk(re)labeling needed. Sure you might be out some space if the other drives are substantially bigger but you can always add the partitions later. Depends if time is of the essence or not I guess. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 22:58:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D61F106564A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:58:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C908FC16 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so1421413ewy.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:58:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/YQXmGa4bXdZ5vvapzRCRskukhrDh/0nJECuA3lSaug=; b=TevR1CJvZ/+QXGXlyfH2TCnv9RIGoGWlbr8bBYS2kkc1Oi3GcGKnBwwGnVHKHFtmDY cE9PFQjSGo+h5d1JGog4IQq6XPX5Jy8CXNTbq+iRzigLUs0AhyZQq6n862EdE8TKrozU hc31+XbRx5QfAzupENDwKKgd2UIk+J4+GPwOc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=mOGhLLPBzG/5zPwlNgQfZRtVzE0FaDq6l+9w6xOP0Rh4GMhEFrwtRm6VwHQE8P3RMM mZ0SCVrD0wKu6rv+OHKojqdcacl/+JXmvsuEI35jB/q5NbMaFYgXuoZuy5RqcVrNdAIH yoJOVdwREXyVP9L37oyYeT0vR0jXPU7Vpbv/I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.11.67 with SMTP id 45mr2920380wew.53.1246489095889; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:58:15 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:58:17 -0000 QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you prefer? and why? I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux distributions from FreeBSD fans. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 23:01:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F17106564A for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD548FC19 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 8796088; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:01:57 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 8796085; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:01:51 -0400 Message-ID: <4A4BEADF.6070900@radel.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:01:51 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Underwood References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060907040600000006020402" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:01:58 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060907040600000006020402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Underwood wrote: > I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux > distributions from FreeBSD fans. 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(200.175.53.23.static.gvt.net.br [200.175.53.23]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm4094338agb.68.2009.07.01.16.08.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:08:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Chris Whitehouse , freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <4A4BD7E1.8010204@onetel.com> References: <4A4BD7E1.8010204@onetel.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:08:13 -0300 Message-Id: <1246489693.68114.23.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: load kernel from different media X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:08:15 -0000 Em Qua, 2009-07-01 Ă s 22:40 +0100, Chris Whitehouse escreveu: Yes you can. put your kernel (the one that works) on a DVD/CD assume that your rootfs on the HD is on ad0s1a, /usr is on /dev/ad0s1e with all the /boot directory. than boot from dvd/CD with the HD on the machine too. on the startup, hit 6 (number 6). than type: set vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:ad0s1a" boot -s ==================== the machine will boot from the CD (with the kernel on the CD) than will mount the filesystem / (root) using ufs and the device /dev/ad0s1a once boot, you can mount the / rw..... mount -o rw /dev/ad0s1a /mnt mount /dev/ad0s1e /usr than..... export PATH=/mnt/sbin:/mnt/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd /cdrom tar cf - boot | tar -xpvf - -C /mnt =============== edit /mnt/fstab to match the /(root) fs ..... ==============fstab========= /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 ===================== fastboot the machine will reboot and boot happy on the hd.... hope it can help From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 23:09:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B710910656A6 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f186.google.com (mail-qy0-f186.google.com [209.85.221.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E5E8FC20 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: by qyk16 with SMTP id 16so1400240qyk.3 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:09:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bw6ZrfLRFJS9SJZMGlaMGePzOQXpg/O2ZxWvDcnr3kA=; b=Uw6eJPDdJMowIiVo1HUOqhbi2RloNUxSM1U2USwfSCm8XYCpTzN14qqN8fh0cUPaB2 Zxa3rVZSwrRVhTpedUX571X8wJgdXI4qcZPIc/TsP1SBm/WieOfz7a+5aZQmDyXde22J Gjd1wJCqfNr/XcoJeoEOWDJciOlX+fjdWR5Eg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=jJqgE0t6r6PJ4SiuuKnkzc7NHdCNPEfTR3Z9YGwEhnP8sg39kRcTiGQ1Wsg1rJtT5o K1F/QET9eZyAoqNI9javLOq+0ZzGGuHYTpuNuOHwMWsNiQPY7CQEgj5dX3K97PRt44a/ ns8RPH/SoQvatFrMVhnj3h75TElhwxyONsdv8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.46.4 with SMTP id h4mr9669991qaf.86.1246489770756; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:09:30 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: invalid.pointer@gmail.com Subject: Re: Questions on portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:09:32 -0000 Manish Jain wrote: >...Does each child start 'make fetch' in the background ? make checksum, yes. >Further, how can portmaster be tuned to automatically ignore ports which >are actually marked as IGNORE in the port directory ? This is not >covered in the manpage. It respects IGNORE (it checks for it in the port Makefile, and also hands off to bsd.port.mk, which respects it). If you mean +IGNOREME, the others have answered your question. >While doing portmaster -a, I have only managed to stop portmaster from >building exactly one port specified with the -x option. Can I get to >stop multiple ports from being built ? Is there regular expression >support for the -x option ? Not in the sense that you mean, at least that I'm aware of. This one of the things that needs improvement. It is a bit awkward, because it uses the shell's built-in POSIX getopts to parse options, and then calls itself recursively. One way you could fix it would be to apply a patch like: --- portmaster.orig 2009-07-01 12:36:14.000000000 -0400 +++ portmaster 2009-07-01 18:55:59.000000000 -0400 @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ if [ -z "$PARENT_PID" ]; then PARENT_PID=$$ : ${TMPDIR:=/tmp} - UPGRADE_TOOL=portmaster + UPGRADE_TOOL=$0 # /usr/local is needed in the path for make PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin @@ -788,7 +788,11 @@ u) UNATTENDED=uopt; ARGS="-u $ARGS" ;; v) PM_VERBOSE=vopt; ARGS="-v $ARGS" ;; w) SAVE_SHARED=wopt; ARGS="-w $ARGS" ;; - x) EXCL=$OPTARG ;; + x) if [ -z "${OPTARG%%-*}" ]; then + fail 'The -x option requires an argument' + else + EXCL="-x $OPTARG $EXCL" + fi ;; *) echo '' ; echo "===>>> Try ${0##*/} --help"; exit 1 ;; esac done @@ -810,10 +814,7 @@ [ -n "$FETCH_ONLY" -a -n "$NO_RECURSIVE_CONFIG" ] && fail "The -F and -G options are mutually exclusive" if [ -n "$EXCL" ]; then - case "$EXCL" in - -*) fail 'The -x option requires an argument' ;; - *) ARGS="-x $EXCL $ARGS" ;; - esac + ARGS="$EXCL $ARGS" fi #=============== Begin functions for getopts features and main =============== @@ -1461,14 +1462,17 @@ check_exclude () { [ -n "$EXCL" ] || return 0 - case "$1" in - *${EXCL}*) - if [ -n "$PM_VERBOSE" ]; then - echo "===>>> Skipping $1" - echo " because it matches the pattern: *${EXCL}*" - fi - return 1 ;; - esac + for pkgglob in `echo "$EXCL" | sed -e 's#-x##g'` + do + case "$1" in + *${pkgglob}*) + if [ -n "$PM_VERBOSE" ]; then + echo "===>>> Skipping $1" + echo " because it matches the pattern: *${pkgglob}*" + fi + return 1 ;; + esac ; + done return 0 } (Mind the whitespace because of my MUA.) Then you could just use repeated -x flags, each with one and only one package glob that you wanted to exclude. I changed the definition of UPGRADE_TOOL so that you could put this script in your path under another name, say "jainpmaster", and then call it independently of the original portmaster. As usual, I make no claim that this is the best, only, or most elegant way to do this. Regards, b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 23:12:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D314E106566C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:12:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CHalbersma.12@westminster-mo.edu) Received: from mail1.westminster-mo.edu (mail1.westminster-mo.edu [204.184.63.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F188FC12 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:12:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CHalbersma.12@westminster-mo.edu) Received: from beastie (10.11.60.130) by mail1.westminster-mo.edu (10.1.1.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.375.2; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:12:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:12:40 -0500 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: Christopher Ryan Halbersma Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090701230208.EB47F10656C7@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20090701230208.EB47F10656C7@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Linux) Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:12:40 -0000 > QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you > prefer? and why? None, I'm a BSD kindof guy :). Although Damn Small Linux and Tiny Core are nice ideas. > I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux > distributions from FreeBSD fans. Indeed why? -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 23:42:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572B71065672 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f186.google.com (mail-qy0-f186.google.com [209.85.221.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F90E8FC08 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: by qyk16 with SMTP id 16so1414786qyk.3 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:42:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=d6SBuBeiagnaX6GlZxhVaOJm9Avj56dCBivxtkPT3zo=; b=b7ID/lKrSBURzLjjwvAheYol1tHJUmpU6OF/8zgVjRGcG67NeU5BYi1UNckdZP6ir0 f9Q4+Y54QA53q5m4IkH+KLHCN3jBnQFEk6sgLmtmoXGEHYbtVg6MtIgG6t0nGnSl/mqV I4HI6ciDgkWf5lkkRvsLk+Pm6+Tp8lvNUkUxc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N1kXdpt1uDI9jizgX9qAMVBK7cQyFBmFiOWILSld0joLqKwd79LXdjSxRSMm8ZTERd 2naMmW1H76lekKJaaiPpMV1SB+5Ouraqnz/E41amte3WLnqXC37Wa0ZGRr2HHDBKcnlN gUacBNgWzptG1Q4NkgWa2F74IiseWZ88uL6Qw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.85.21 with SMTP id m21mr3575452qcl.9.1246490015950; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:13:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:13:32 -0500 Message-ID: <11167f520907011613p15b99cc8tf858704eaf1ec9a0@mail.gmail.com> From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: Daniel Underwood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:42:37 -0000 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote: > QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you > prefer? and why? > > I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux > distributions from FreeBSD fans. of all the Linux distros I have tried, the least confusing is Gentoo Gentoo portage is "kinda" like FreeBSD ports they also have another project http://www.sabayonlinux.org/ that is Gentoo based, and I am hoping that one day PC-BSD will grow into what Sabayon now is, but FreeBSD based. in my Opinion, package management is the Big question that all os's have to deal with. things like debian's aptget do not handle upgrades very well. PC-BSD has a Great start on this with "PBI's" Sam Fourman Jr. Fourma Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 23:47:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41891065670 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4818FC1C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1065505bwz.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:47:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=m+fZZQ42l4jibYubX4vj1/Ms/GA+4tUF8bdyFmwq6bQ=; b=do+cxRzktwVV0NGGeyKFk2HlIdvOcvnaiQBSh9iEPWcIn23C0pA6XwDB4VbVz7QK6P 5HRis6eFAi8/WJ+9rxMU83cbmdSKllOUxN5aI50pXP2fbPUz/KXqZJe2ptfLW4Y4bn74 8JGjSNyjtLfXHZK9cd02RRNlqgQHlVwlApl38= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gT918mIqd2tSKdP4QWhk9a6D3x/pHwMCAm2Lbt4/YrkmoNsOiZawEEa+ZJtlDaMjQ2 +oKkrs75ynwzXVEZwXc3jcZp0T+IUmyRmUjtv5oJBxgNiKsq5+c4DpybogvAdBKzJak7 +NpsJh2RRMTz+qgXPleXIWLW62CTIR4cBZRvM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.124.19 with SMTP id s19mr7917092bkr.6.1246492061276; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:47:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:47:41 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310907011647n5e709c2bk41a3fb4ba99dd580@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Daniel Underwood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:47:43 -0000 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote: > QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you > prefer? and why? > > I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux > distributions from FreeBSD fans. Although I am hesitant to contribute to what will most certainly turn into a flamewar, I have used Fedora, *buntu, and OpenSuse. Of those 3 distributions, *buntu tends to install the least nonsense -- OpenSuse the most. When I do need linux for something, I try to use some Ubuntu variant as I can have better control over what is installed. Of course, when I can control it, I install FreeBSD, as I have greater control over everything. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 23:50:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989B6106566C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:50:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E848FC19 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:50:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so320886eyd.3 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:50:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tDRQzhT5+ulQXpf9J4gIG3uKlFgb4s5gOwubIJfnMx8=; b=ufYNsSD7DTk4HAGFH9lEeTrMF6UwFvs56Dp6rBBPpjM1T7q+enCotyJN3DLd7HL9fP qn4cSYLL+T12vB9W/dY8Vk9cKBdjYKw2XigVlV/GzDBRLk2Da/ynX7+gRmqEwhYN3Sab kH7BvBBOXfZFppsTPOprPMmx6iHvA9QuDm37c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p+6TVAdPVUFLkT1pSxVIT6IVtpddOFZPYiSslu6flaEi9TW01FRsYhXPMSXyWKL38w /BqzM46Vy2r4PqP79IyUPRMsfeu6tYvQo7bpjcjMGUp6FEgM6NWxKsGoUCLvZZ1+YDPa byaeENUTWYCUqxAdkkaNKM8KfcRdS6+R76Gj8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.45.73 with SMTP id o51mr2976324web.10.1246492247068; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:50:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <11167f520907011613p15b99cc8tf858704eaf1ec9a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <11167f520907011613p15b99cc8tf858704eaf1ec9a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:50:47 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: "Sam Fourman Jr." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:50:48 -0000 > of all the Linux distros I have tried, the least confusing is Gentoo > Gentoo portage is "kinda" like FreeBSD ports Yes, I'd like to give Gentoo a try. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 00:02:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CFD1065673 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC00D8FC13 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id AmBQ1c03q17UAYkA3o2gX6; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:02:40 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ao2Z1c0031f6R9u8Zo2de1; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:02:39 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:02:32 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:02:32 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090702000231.GF72216@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090701230208.EB47F10656C7@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:02:40 -0000 On Wed 01 Jul 2009 at 16:12:40 PDT Christopher Ryan Halbersma wrote: >>QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you >>prefer? and why? > >None, I'm a BSD kindof guy Same here, but my other machine is a Mac (still BSD under the hood). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 00:23:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9239F106566C for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B4B8FC18 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so323325eyd.3 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:23:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DDrf/aPjHOx0h0OHwTDbNGK8ECxzbCbHPuvsiXdUNf4=; b=K31S2Et8UOfqh4gfXCshC+Lx/C/hYvhP4EggpoU80xlCU0CFGoBK3Fuv8l6CMTOAXw HNaJmXvvxfRLFXaA/BEQtR0vLTIzvsgNsW4a4qNiube8OySJkdP9jfQCl5fjYdEZ28ME V+YqRMsKt/wj3glhE1p53oXGtyXv+Kj5xyt18= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=rwahB4O1TwBgCZZn9pPNcIotXTtKz5zj3lXbKENdRg1RlEbKZzYZYrIbUTXhNN2qmb te0OimFIvz4cPmBQiODxDHGsxAcBm8ejymG0l/rbXDoKVdZD9H7DNST8R75AD6pkn/oz HU8vFtE3v6W9uV1okUssgAbAcJsfUch2bl6oA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.21.206 with SMTP id r56mr2923719wer.110.1246494206022; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:23:25 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: boot0 / LILO / GRUB: dual boot FreeBSD and Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:23:27 -0000 I'm getting a new desktop through my university which will come installed with Windows Vista. Obviously, my first action item will be removing Vista and installing a reasonable OS. Due to the need to be up-and-running immediately with an OS that I'm comfortable with, I'll be installing Linux (probably Ubuntu). But I'd like to set-up FreeBSD also. Which of the boot managers do you suggest I use? Which OS should I install first? Since I've never set-up a FreeBSD/Linux dual-boot system, I don't know what, if any, pitfalls to avoid. I'm hoping some of you will have experience I can learn from. Any relevant advice would be greatly appreciated. TIA, Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 00:30:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFAE106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B916C8FC17 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A56EB5305; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 03:30:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B249E450D0; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 03:30:32 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xr1af+cJLcDZ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 03:30:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl177-174.kln.forthnet.gr [62.1.250.174]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81687450C6; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 03:30:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n620UVg6002900; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 03:30:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n620UU6T002899; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 03:30:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Daniel Underwood References: Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:30:30 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Daniel Underwood's message of "Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:58:15 -0400") Message-ID: <87y6r8x6xl.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:30:34 -0000 On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:58:15 -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you > prefer? and why? > > I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux > distributions from FreeBSD fans. Debian is the one I can almost tolerate. There's a special place in hell for the people who write the source of code of horrible, terrifying, ugly things like iptables and the default packaging of GNU Emacs in Debian, but it's the one that I can tune a bit to match my preferences :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 00:31:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9371065686 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2478FC08 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so1456224ewy.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:31:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dTeOlUbEsdHlCEFeefwI8KvMsPo1/sXWxrePM0t1VfE=; b=xYDVti0ky6DvEBXleoCf9U2OOxbA86xGSJPK35mKYmJSzswbJrs80B7/ZcunyMzh0Z qHhWDw7nI/IR8gkiPa5PMeT7p1zOQy7VNmPzCbKZ2chGsd2dT0sKA+IVP0LpefrW3Cjz VfQdPRU5fv6d2UqBQUuNMJZj/s4Q805EXfKpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=beU9OAcBFTvVEw+pwL+FAjMOc0eOK/MGpVhR323AxKLREgugYOz4tt6tarL4YIdGK8 F3zTxwKCeiIKPKYsfI94zK3tc4KHFtNwjPb9xI6Lf8XDJcSC/+GE7v9RPb5b9qY2tCC6 ANDG5VjAodz56WsfUfAnniSk3NJS94rGGCXRY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.36.79 with SMTP id v57mr2938125wea.19.1246494717597; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:31:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:31:59 -0000 Does FreeBSD currently support 64-bit x86 systems? I've been here, but my knowledge of hardware terminology is too limited to confidently draw conclusions: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 00:34:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475F0106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:34:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4D48FC1D for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1077149bwz.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:34:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nfatc2MqZzrab6xj7a69uGyg+1nd2xpxh5BKpsG6buA=; b=XMURiziiAzCZkHentRqHgomhp+tQ57PpPUHCOvgABivYz3NGxPq8VkcxtN7ziSs10E I2pZi2K3HRcfesZA4kh4luMFdVnsSLqhHuIYeIKkbFWgrYezMu6NvPRL41Q1hiR9phfe jflt9k0luI8brzXxRtWq7aqZXhHj/nZmfyWcQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ps3puQdHrhhiKtgZBJNqgdo0zRoLQsujj4E6NRFlJ3gTrmDqclH/hM54zEXBlTcMUz lF0InLNDdXfZ7W2JdA0qjFjtVblfGynUF0u4a1XDyG5NdhFZUsoDSAIZ6kTmuhTE8jyH HeIpPSHwRiPELwT2JQPBUzdehLYUFj/yiVz1M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.52.146 with SMTP id i18mr10252416bkg.82.1246494858600; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:34:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:34:18 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310907011734w3e9a7713h83d050b104d9d7ac@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Daniel Underwood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:34:20 -0000 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Does FreeBSD currently support 64-bit x86 systems? > > I've been here, but my knowledge of hardware terminology is too > limited to confidently draw conclusions: > amd64 -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 00:37:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AD6106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7891C8FC08 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so1457964ewy.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:37:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vWx94SGk3TrS4qolE3u2UmLD89JfGBQr7Q4SoRvG48w=; b=Yi+zMaEKTrw5nAkw2mle/ya51+dQ9tSDi2w9izZp38EcT7rWqDasAscaY8sEQYnnWB Ytfi2h2dUxViecwnYGj3dtgnfX/5PgbkwaREh6a8GY6oQ5eWTeWuevFDhqLBHY68nzqz b+RXUs6TgMOze6Bh2J2edqgO35d+YAt1obnS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LgPfn61awguakm64+ai5Z7mc8oTLGngCzFUcerR9FAKdrPqPqXFbzEf0DO/R0Ct39/ lmbKUriFjgjcVjKwD0rDqvizm7hEZP2yvoaJXnecKM6O5gyfSfxEjcHF4N4seGgH3IVU ZFXDhUHu7bDkHwqdv4Kw/mnt0mKSzFf5d68pQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.6.198 with SMTP id 48mr2924859wen.200.1246495020442; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:37:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310907011734w3e9a7713h83d050b104d9d7ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ad871310907011734w3e9a7713h83d050b104d9d7ac@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:37:00 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:37:02 -0000 > amd64 Ah-hah. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 00:42:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE629106566C for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f186.google.com (mail-qy0-f186.google.com [209.85.221.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70868FC15 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: by qyk16 with SMTP id 16so1440414qyk.3 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:42:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RWW1UT9aGiqOp+HIjIp1Ne1Ro6scQW2ItS1LeakVKLI=; b=M8W9ioVZ0IFrwphh/QA858RbVKmOe4a+zXgj6NJEpQ1Yd5biddeKHtrMqJBi9dktAB DOejuFNlfZXMopTYjE5AtlyJ45GUpu8etEFKHRnH4o+4gA86T7ifU4xBhQeWlt23TEno i3zYUzhWSmLJxeoBSiO0YXkvneU8xvL2TIzfA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s8G6oYmRCDsUpQAFL1Fc52peJjkqyJJAnbGXf+iC6GbL5MeCXF4pcP+8oZ/94naWDL Fhd20We3gJlsTAP4YwCa3Vv5RvDJ4UFUOi8MmPvoSzg/AQyEIxOBJq75MkZwQi/HiZKQ C8zFE6c0YRYKdARISi9McqNKS6y/ubxro0gfc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.87.213 with SMTP id x21mr3636620qcl.41.1246495374054; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:42:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:42:54 -0500 Message-ID: <11167f520907011742yed5b160wd37441dce946d353@mail.gmail.com> From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: Daniel Underwood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:42:55 -0000 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Does FreeBSD currently support 64-bit x86 systems? amd64 supports both amd and intel 64bit CPU's right now the big limitation for me is you can not have a Nvidia binary graphics driver on amd64 progress has been made on this front in the last month. Sam Fourman Jr From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 00:52:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F46106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA968FC08 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so1924226yxe.3 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:52:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pL1nib/hoP+CJ4yJvBEFEkcJ1lKgcDLhrtit3VHrhvs=; b=WlEKCdn3FVGIKSjSDjCWcmx4VbgiVkaukju6SxXKNps5RKXg8WEGsjXUeO9OZbsOks wIK71XZIR4ZsvJDx2knxO+zB94kZwqUJoCaH0scUK/S8r6gBglTGxh8PxeF6qwnx5LP6 2PgNfnXVeC1zylVUWZxNGxsvx04utb6uMn2M8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vmuysmM52C+Jwf/4isF3+Xt2kV24y5LDQH5gT0CBzMAUrT6tAyLPkGOG/L0eXKPONN ANYpQL0CMbH6qXU6Eie81hkkkeKUQSjVKcNR84rPnxntuSKQtscO9Z5rzF/pdO81YFQY WYCSiAJl2BltcfH2LfMv0geM9XLpAAXqj66nw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.241.8 with SMTP id o8mr14382948anh.102.1246495950909; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:52:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:52:30 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640907011752h784aab0l2e02c3c28b458685@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Daniel Underwood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot0 / LILO / GRUB: dual boot FreeBSD and Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:52:32 -0000 > I'm getting a new desktop through my university which will come > installed with Windows Vista. Obviously, my first action item will be > removing Vista and installing a reasonable OS. Due to the need to be > up-and-running immediately with an OS that I'm comfortable with, I'll > be installing Linux (probably Ubuntu). But I'd like to set-up FreeBSD > also. > > Which of the boot managers do you suggest I use? Which OS should I > install first? Since I've never set-up a FreeBSD/Linux dual-boot > system, I don't know what, if any, pitfalls to avoid. I'm hoping some > of you will have experience I can learn from. Any relevant advice > would be greatly appreciated. > Hi, I'm primarily an Ubuntu Linux user, but I've experimented with FreeBSD desktops and servers quite a bit (servers especially). One thing I found to be really cool is the FreeBSD boot manager. I would strongly recommend using the FreeBSD boot manager because it's completely standalone; it does not depend on any files or data sitting in your partitions. The boot manager sits within the first 512 bytes of your hard drive (the MBR) and it does not need any other data to function. The way it works is simple. Well first a disclaimer. What I describe here, I'm pretty confident that I know what I'm talking about, but there is a chance that my knowledge is wrong. In that case please correct me, someone. The FreeBSD boot manager (I don't know the official name for it off the top of my head), when run, looks at the partitions on the hard drive. It then presents a menu, where you press a function key to select which partition to boot. It basically delegates the booting to the boot record on the partition of your choice. The way to set this up is as follows. Well, I'm sure it's possible to install FreeBSD first and then Linux, but I will describe it the other way. First install Linux normally (well leaving space on your hard drive for a FreeBSD partition, which needs to be primary and not extended). After you install Linux, boot up and do some magic where you install the boot manager (such as Grub or Lilo) onto the boot record of the Linux parttion. Normally the boot manager for Linux will be installed in the MBR, but put it on the partition's boot sector as well. Now install FreeBSD. Install the FreeBSD boot manager. It will not touch the Linux partition at all, the FreeBSD install will only write to the FreeBSD partition and to the MBR. I would not recommend using Grub as a boot manager (for the MBR) because it depends on files sitting on your Linux partition as far as I know. So when you wipe your Linux partition for some reason you won't be able to boot any more. Same goes for Lilo I think. The FreeBSD boot manager does not depend on any data outside of the MBR, so it will continue working properly after you wipe a partition clean. See here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html It appears that the boot manager is called boot0. If you ever want to back up your MBR for some reason, which includes the partition table and the boot program, you can do something like this: dd if=/dev/hda of=my-mbr-saved-file bs=512 count=1 where "/dev/hda" would be changed depending on OS and hard disk configuration. Then you can restore the MBR: dd if=my-mbr-saved-file of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 But restoring should be done with extreme caution because it will rewrite your partition table and could lead to lost data because of that. I have installed the FreeBSD boot manager by using dd after combining the 446-byte long program with an existing partition table From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 01:45:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8271065670 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 01:45:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144F78FC19 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 01:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so567444and.13 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:45:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TmX4z/D6ZS2zV5GpUQ7ykjfLwWjhZK7LL13S+x+Tjns=; b=kuuiMQyVU0rn89gSiGdi+pzjTiEVhAu1p5HSGTwits7Fs27nMnqS8cSBwNdv2teH2g BbElRkiexWAcLSFTney8ET4lqrAGtvqzHPvGy/wWwIsWprWSfg4aSKLtpXDer0xuqM/S DwG83EMuiwn3ntaKzva5XgJS2ZZnnHIQFK0Sg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fp4B0KR7iUdfZgSeSsIRhkwHcmoWMAocj8pOh+P5z6i7dgds/VOIbpvR+5CMbm1W0j m7feekgORTw7jGa3UcMP2PpUZCTT3Pbf7PWheQUTpuHr8wsxA1GOk6c+M6uAuawQaTf9 YnTXc5FQDNdVcR/CXcYj3J8ztGHWMbbjJPqgU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.34.196 with SMTP id m4mr3127587ibd.5.1246499125153; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:45:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3a142e750907011526ka68c664s3606fdc9b4ad2889@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d5d3ca90907011048t1a096865iceaa3b82c1af82f4@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907011055r3750fd54rb66612a4b110e090@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907011120h35b5e665gee30466ce72097e7@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907011526ka68c664s3606fdc9b4ad2889@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:45:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3d5d3ca90907011845g26124a59y9643ef4623610f6@mail.gmail.com> From: Robert Hall To: "Paul B. Mahol" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:45:26 -0000 > And what about TX/RX signal? I don't know where to look for that. :) > Could you put backtrace somewhere? > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug-gdb.html Backtrace from crashing with a Belkin ndis: (kgdb) backtrace #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:196 #1 0xc055bcc3 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:418 #2 0xc055bece in panic (fmt=Variable "fmt" is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:574 #3 0xc079041c in trap_fatal (frame=0xd5f9571c, eva=0) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:939 #4 0xc0790680 in trap_pfault (frame=0xd5f9571c, usermode=0, eva=0) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:852 #5 0xc0790fd9 in trap (frame=0xd5f9571c) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:530 #6 0xc077dbbb in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:159 #7 0xc32b5239 in BLKWGDv7_sys_drv_data_start () from /boot/modules/BLKWGDv7_sys.ko Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) And from a Linksys crash (kgdb) backtrace #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:196 #1 0xc055bcc3 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:418 #2 0xc055bece in panic (fmt=Variable "fmt" is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:574 #3 0xc079041c in trap_fatal (frame=0xd600cb98, eva=382216) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:939 #4 0xc0790680 in trap_pfault (frame=0xd600cb98, usermode=0, eva=382216) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:852 #5 0xc0790fd9 in trap (frame=0xd600cb98) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:530 #6 0xc077dbbb in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:159 #7 0xc329dde6 in rt61_sys_drv_data_start () from /boot/modules/./rt61_sys.ko Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) I hope this is what you were asking for. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 02:16:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7649A106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 02:16:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470888FC18 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 02:16:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n622Fk0Q022251 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:15:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200907020215.n622Fk0Q022251@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <22249.1246500946.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:15:46 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:16:01 -0000 Daniel Underwood writes: > QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you > prefer? and why? I like Debian and ubuntu which is a Debian distribution but that is not to say that other distributions are poorly done. Part of my preference is nothing more than that is what I started out with for a Linux distribution back around 2001 so I am accustomed to it. I like the Debian installation CD because as a computer user who is blind, I use a serial installation console and both the Debian5 CD and ubuntu Server can be easily started in serial mode. I also do not like any distribution that uses a GUI-based installation method unless there is a text-based method which is still available and easy to start. Debian was also one of the first few distributions to be more conservative about security settings. I work for a university and let's say that it is a good place to find out how weak one's settings are. Anybody who finds a hole will not necessarily tell you, but you will unfortunately find out in due time when the complaints start rolling in from all over the world. All the major distributions now are much better about security so this is not as much of a factor as it used to be. As with many things, your mileage will be determined by what you need to do and how well your particular flavor of Linux does it. All Linux versions use the same kernel but some may modify portions of it for special purposes. The distribution known as grml, for instance, has a set of modules in the kernel to support software speech synthesis. I would love to put it on a certain laptop I have but the laptop has other ideas. grml is a flavor of Debian and, on my laptop, the live CD is dead. Ubuntu's live CD also does software speech synthesis for blind computer users, along with an Orca desktop, but it also needs a pretty hefty system just to boot the live CD. That laptop of mine is a 1-GHZ processor and 256 megs of RAM and it still isn't enough. That live CD is also a dead one on that computer. One thing, though, the ubuntu live CD can seem to find the sound card as I hear the bongo drums in the ubuntu bootup, but then the drums fall silent and the screen goes psychedelic as RAM is exhausted and the system looses sanity. That particular psychedelic trip can only be ended by a forced power-down. The only distribution that does work there is something called "Oralux" whose development stopped around 4 years ago. It has software synthesis and it does talk all right, but the sound card can not record sound and it really is too old to be safe or very useful any more. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 04:20:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D76C106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 04:20:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [74.1.12.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262278FC1B for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 04:20:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 34294 invoked by uid 1008); 2 Jul 2009 05:26:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@216.214.157.68) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 2 Jul 2009 05:26:16 -0000 Message-ID: <4A4C356C.7010009@el.net> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:19:56 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4A483CD3.9040304@el.net> <4A48E09D.3000102@beanfield.com> <4A4982DB.8010909@el.net> <20090630081731.95f90487.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090630081731.95f90487.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Brent Bloxam , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:20:47 -0000 > But it IS a modem to dial tones and connect to something? > "Net search"... no idea what that could mean. Serial modems usually > don't search for nets... > > Or am I completely misunderstanding you and you're trying to find a > command access to a DSL modem that has a serial line? > it's a gsm/sms modem. i need to get to it to set some settings using AT commands... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 05:06:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAE41065672 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 05:06:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f194.google.com (mail-pz0-f194.google.com [209.85.222.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DADA8FC16 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 05:06:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by pzk32 with SMTP id 32so135611pzk.3 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:06:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OmC1v+2nhwOxWKv7Nz2kt7cqiLNagYmjta3AVtEMWrk=; b=SwpodvUI6eZM2AIAABkGIrUTPFB+omKgYreOeMBtIYCN42xPh2fwSHkwwkwKcAvhMm +VgTe1N2ZDdZkNG1K/ppgYgB2au1dY+uluIgfNNZWkIgo75m8xQHcv8FiQcfIkJ5c3fp tknG3QEDFVFogGa4AGQ5C26dgi3VZjoUSOPrM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w+POlGdER+bJHjrEPBUX0vesfEGN5wnuCQtDx02G8w/k4XRXeRuCDUqtVJTwcqIHGl aEWwN2CzxgSu/rSNW21x+eYeDgFbsSQhFz0if2vBEkCtRRRFD0q1uU3d66EAzsUmbmg0 Cm4s1nHfj8Jp5q44ZUMBT9r538i2aeYJgy6Bs= Received: by 10.142.82.6 with SMTP id f6mr1297438wfb.349.1246511205299; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd-pbbi.airtel.localdomain ([122.163.148.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm6520287wfd.23.2009.07.01.22.06.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A4C4057.5010209@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:36:31 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090701) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "b. f." References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rsmith@xs4all.nl, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Questions on portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:06:46 -0000 b. f. wrote: > Manish Jain wrote: >> ...Does each child start 'make fetch' in the background ? > > make checksum, yes. > >> Further, how can portmaster be tuned to automatically ignore ports which >> are actually marked as IGNORE in the port directory ? This is not >> covered in the manpage. > > It respects IGNORE (it checks for it in the port Makefile, and also > hands off to bsd.port.mk, which respects it). If you mean +IGNOREME, > the others have answered your question. > >> While doing portmaster -a, I have only managed to stop portmaster from >> building exactly one port specified with the -x option. Can I get to >> stop multiple ports from being built ? Is there regular expression >> support for the -x option ? > > Not in the sense that you mean, at least that I'm aware of. This one > of the things that needs improvement. It is a bit awkward, because it > uses the shell's built-in POSIX getopts to parse options, and then > calls itself recursively. One way you could fix it would be to apply > a patch like: > > --- portmaster.orig 2009-07-01 12:36:14.000000000 -0400 > +++ portmaster 2009-07-01 18:55:59.000000000 -0400 > @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ > if [ -z "$PARENT_PID" ]; then > PARENT_PID=$$ > : ${TMPDIR:=/tmp} > - UPGRADE_TOOL=portmaster > + UPGRADE_TOOL=$0 > > # /usr/local is needed in the path for make > PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin > @@ -788,7 +788,11 @@ > u) UNATTENDED=uopt; ARGS="-u $ARGS" ;; > v) PM_VERBOSE=vopt; ARGS="-v $ARGS" ;; > w) SAVE_SHARED=wopt; ARGS="-w $ARGS" ;; > - x) EXCL=$OPTARG ;; > + x) if [ -z "${OPTARG%%-*}" ]; then > + fail 'The -x option requires an argument' > + else > + EXCL="-x $OPTARG $EXCL" > + fi ;; > *) echo '' ; echo "===>>> Try ${0##*/} --help"; exit 1 ;; > esac > done > @@ -810,10 +814,7 @@ > [ -n "$FETCH_ONLY" -a -n "$NO_RECURSIVE_CONFIG" ] && > fail "The -F and -G options are mutually exclusive" > if [ -n "$EXCL" ]; then > - case "$EXCL" in > - -*) fail 'The -x option requires an argument' ;; > - *) ARGS="-x $EXCL $ARGS" ;; > - esac > + ARGS="$EXCL $ARGS" > fi > > #=============== Begin functions for getopts features and main =============== > @@ -1461,14 +1462,17 @@ > check_exclude () { > [ -n "$EXCL" ] || return 0 > > - case "$1" in > - *${EXCL}*) > - if [ -n "$PM_VERBOSE" ]; then > - echo "===>>> Skipping $1" > - echo " because it matches the pattern: *${EXCL}*" > - fi > - return 1 ;; > - esac > + for pkgglob in `echo "$EXCL" | sed -e 's#-x##g'` > + do > + case "$1" in > + *${pkgglob}*) > + if [ -n "$PM_VERBOSE" ]; then > + echo "===>>> Skipping $1" > + echo " because it matches the pattern: > *${pkgglob}*" > + fi > + return 1 ;; > + esac ; > + done > return 0 > } > > > (Mind the whitespace because of my MUA.) Then you could just use > repeated -x flags, each with one and only one package glob that you > wanted to exclude. I changed the definition of UPGRADE_TOOL so that > you could put this script in your path under another name, say > "jainpmaster", and then call it independently of the original > portmaster. As usual, I make no claim that this is the best, only, or > most elegant way to do this. > > Regards, > b. > Hello BF/Roland, Thanks for the clarifications. Regarding the download speeds I was getting with portmaster fetches (0.7 kBps to 4.0 kBps), I immediately booted into Windows/Cygwin and did a wget from the same site portmaster was using. The speed I got from wget was ~ 35 kBps. This happened not just once but multiple times. Each time I did this, I had to interrupt portmaster. Finally I managed to get to install the wget port on FreeBSD itself. When I ran wget from FreeBSD, it reported comparable transfer rates (~ 35 kBps) from the same sites as portmaster was using. >> It respects IGNORE (it checks for it in the port Makefile, and also >> hands off to bsd.port.mk, which respects it). I got a curl port from portsnap marked IGNORE. portmaster did not ignore it anywhere near gracefully enough and finally killed off all child processes and itself. The IGNOREME way is fine for me for avoiding multiple ports I know beforehand I do not want to build. But if a portsnap update creates an IGNORE port, portmaster should be skipping it entirely rather than having to kill all child processes and itself. In my experience, this did not happen. Or maybe my system was badly broken already by that time. Anyway, my system became so unpredictable that I had to reinstall FreeBSD. For the moment, I am avoiding portmaster till I can try it out on a dummy PC first. BTW, I also tried portmanager and it segfaulted at the stage of generating a report. Thanks for all the help. Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 05:10:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241821065673 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 05:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [74.1.12.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFAE88FC17 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 05:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 40012 invoked by uid 1008); 2 Jul 2009 06:15:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@216.214.157.68) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 2 Jul 2009 06:15:36 -0000 Message-ID: <4A4C40FC.9060607@el.net> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:09:16 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4A483CD3.9040304@el.net> <4A48E09D.3000102@beanfield.com> <4A4982DB.8010909@el.net> <20090630081731.95f90487.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A4C356C.7010009@el.net> In-Reply-To: <4A4C356C.7010009@el.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Brent Bloxam , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:10:07 -0000 nevermind... thanks... kalin m wrote: > >> But it IS a modem to dial tones and connect to something? >> "Net search"... no idea what that could mean. Serial modems usually >> don't search for nets... >> >> Or am I completely misunderstanding you and you're trying to find a >> command access to a DSL modem that has a serial line? >> > > it's a gsm/sms modem. i need to get to it to set some settings using > AT commands... _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 05:21:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3237F106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 05:21:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DEB8FC08 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 05:21:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49AE3CD3F; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:21:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n625LP8d009775; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:21:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:21:25 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Daniel Underwood Message-Id: <20090702072125.6a3e513d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:21:34 -0000 On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:58:15 -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you > prefer? and why? Actually, I'm not a Linux user. But Linux was my first step into using UNIX on a x86 PC. More than 10 years ago, I started with Slackware Linux, and with the rise of FreeBSD 4.0, I did abandon it. "Modern" Linux distributions don't appeal very much to me, because they are messy: Missing manpages, partially ununderstandable file system hierarchy layout, untidy source code. Ah yes, and I need a very modern PC to run them. No thanks, not my party. That's why I can't tell about them, because I've not used them. The only thing that I observed when playing around with SuSE live CDs was that the Gnome version of their Linux had a much better internationalisation than the KDE version. Set language to "German", and Gnome gives german text and messages most of the time, nearly everywhere. KDE cannot do that. It even gives english error messages. This is what scares Germans who want to try Linux. They cannot stand such complicated computer thingies. :-) > I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux > distributions from FreeBSD fans. Why? And an addition: I'm not a "FreeBSD fan", I'm a FreeBSD user. I am using it because it serves my needs best, and I am nearly exclusively using it (along with Solaris). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 05:24:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996F81065670 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 05:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5381F8FC0C for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 05:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F173CD42; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:24:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n625O7TQ009792; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:24:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:24:07 +0200 From: Polytropon To: kalin m Message-Id: <20090702072407.9ef4b870.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4A4C356C.7010009@el.net> References: <4A483CD3.9040304@el.net> <4A48E09D.3000102@beanfield.com> <4A4982DB.8010909@el.net> <20090630081731.95f90487.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A4C356C.7010009@el.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Brent Bloxam , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:24:10 -0000 On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:19:56 -0400, kalin m wrote: > > > But it IS a modem to dial tones and connect to something? > > "Net search"... no idea what that could mean. Serial modems usually > > don't search for nets... > > > > Or am I completely misunderstanding you and you're trying to find a > > command access to a DSL modem that has a serial line? > > > > it's a gsm/sms modem. i need to get to it to set some settings using AT > commands... Okay, then I do understand. My advice of using PPP should be fine then. You just have to add somme AT commands you need. PPP can issue them instead of dialing a number and then establish the connection. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 06:29:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E0F1065686 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 06:29:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B807C8FC1A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 06:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1155256bwz.43 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:29:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7uTdwCaSVpscVXHCq1DmtN9wGPc8ZvD3haOSQWjPeRU=; b=Oqi93L42MncPlWWGoEcJ2MK5jfhuydmVnmlpGL5vFkZcPUCJEX9KU2I/gz+QUKx26P 5yYnZ+6hhBwbJcv0d03XPq3Ittityr/lgGjKIAG2PKnEWaTg2vSttOExB2P/Z8aYLT2G MI801hMj5rL/uurO1svRyDJ5pMAU7QPTLz0Go= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HElPGyMed47NvOkfJcpqrhXLdSIW+sMI+38a37W7LLcOyGACoxtJhrUHdltjbCIisV JUdjXb83BqoV5C7mq9Aq9yFcuB7/S8piUtHMBRgJ7hEi2OFCmIpdUI5gPbAlCGLPwlcU TdnIMDOjZ9LIxBgjfufZvIdeVOY3ReOnErOLs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.175.140 with SMTP id n12mr811118hbf.164.1246516152632; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:29:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A4C4057.5010209@gmail.com> References: <4A4C4057.5010209@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 06:29:12 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Manish Jain Subject: Re: Questions on portmaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:29:14 -0000 On 7/2/09, Manish Jain wrote: > b. f. wrote: >> Manish Jain wrote: > Regarding the download speeds I was getting with portmaster fetches (0.7 > kBps to 4.0 kBps), I immediately booted into Windows/Cygwin and did a > wget from the same site portmaster was using. The speed I got from wget > was ~ 35 kBps. This happened not just once but multiple times. Each time > I did this, I had to interrupt portmaster. Finally I managed to get to > install the wget port on FreeBSD itself. When I ran wget from FreeBSD, > it reported comparable transfer rates (~ 35 kBps) from the same sites as > portmaster was using. > This has nothing to do with portmaster. Remember, portmaster is just a (sometimes) convenient shell script wrapper for the normal ports infrastructure. What you're probably seeing is either the usual fluctuations in network performance, or the difference between wget and FreeBSD fetch(1), which by default is used for getting distfiles and packages. This is set in bsd.port.mk, and you can override it if you prefer to use something else. See the comments concerning FETCH_BINARY, FETCH_ARGS, FETCH_CMD, FETCH_{BEFORE,AFTER}_ARGS, FETCH_ENV, and FETCH_REGET at the top of bsd.port.mk, or the relevant portion of that script. You can also try tuning your network settings, which can speed things up significantly in some cases. >>> It respects IGNORE (it checks for it in the port Makefile, and also >>> hands off to bsd.port.mk, which respects it). > > I got a curl port from portsnap marked IGNORE. portmaster did not ignore > it anywhere near gracefully enough and finally killed off all child > processes and itself. > Uh, yeah -- but that's another matter. It did IGNORE it, but it just stopped entirely. This is another one of the things that need improvement. portupgrade, by contrast, will keep going, only ignoring the port in question and any ports that depend upon it, but updating the rest. You should be able to patch portmaster to mimic this behavior. > Anyway, my system became so unpredictable that I had to reinstall > FreeBSD. For the moment, I am avoiding portmaster till I can try it out > on a dummy PC first. > Well, something is awry if your system was damaged that badly, and it probably wasn't because of portmaster. In general, few ports ought to damage the base system. You're probably better off trying to remove and then reinstall all of your ports first (the instructions in the portmaster manpage are good in this regard), before reinstalling everything. > BTW, I also tried portmanager and it segfaulted at the stage of > generating a report. > Oh, well. Sounds like a job for .... rnoland@FreeBSD.org. But wait -- who wants to bother him about some tiny piece of port management software when he is heroically staging a single-handed campaign to maintain X11 on FreeBSD? b. 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I'm struggling to get my head around a reasonably severe problem with Xorg = - I'm wondering if anyone else is having the same. I've installed Xorg=2C g= ot it working=2C started to refine some settings with the wm and other apps= for it=2C and then Xorg refuses to work. My xorg log has only a couple of errors=2C for reference I'm using the i915= ko with drm: startx: X.Org X Server 1.6.1 Release Date: 2009-4-14 X Protocol Version 11=2C Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p1 i386 ... (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID. (EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. Setting master=20 MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support Xorg.0.log: ... drmGetBusid returned '' (II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.0 (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID. (EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI ... (WW) intel(0): drmDropMaster failed: Unknown error: -1 ... (WW) intel(0): PRB0_CTL (0x0001f001) indicates ring buffer enabled (WW) intel(0): Existing errors found in hardware state. ... MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support ... (WW) intel(0): drmDropMaster failed: Unknown error: -1 Because of my communications issues I've been trying to resolve this myself= - with no luck. I've been trying to get some more info on this=2C and it se= ems to be a huge bug on a lot of linux distros=2C but noone has a clear res= ponse- it all seems to be a secondary issue to whatever their problem is. S= O=2C I then tried to find out how to debug=2C and ran into ANOTHER issue. I= 've rebuilt xorg-server with debug (ccflags=3D'-O0 -g3' as per xorg wiki) w= ith no real success=2C so then I moved to dri and hit this wall: ../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xbb90):../../../src/mesa/glapi/gla= pitemp.h:4951: first defined here ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.o(.text+0x4130): In function `glPointParame= teri': ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.S:1270: multiple definition of `glPointPara= meteri' ../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xc8e0):../../../src/mesa/glapi/gla= pitemp.h:5256: first defined here ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.o(.text+0x4140): In function `glPointParame= teriv': ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.S:1271: multiple definition of `glPointPara= meteriv' ../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xc940):../../../src/mesa/glapi/gla= pitemp.h:5266: first defined here mklib: Installing libGL.so.1 libGL.so in ../../../lib mv: rename libGL.so.1 to ../../../lib/libGL.so.1: No such file or directory gmake[2]: *** [../../../lib/libGL.so] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/dri/work/Mesa-7.4.4/src/gl= x/x11' gmake[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/dri/work/Mesa-7.4.4/src' gmake: *** [default] Error 1 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/dri. The various warnings are in the gallon=2C but my main problem lay with the = mklib error. So I tried to simply copy or rename libGL.so(.1) to make it ha= ppy (I couldn't find references in the Makefile(s) after half an hour of ex= amination=2C so I took a little shortcut). It did=2C but then the gallon of= warnings came back to hit me again- but harder=2C and so I get another sto= p in the build. So now I can't get dri back=2C I can't get X working and I'm losing my pati= ence fast! :) What I can't figure out is what started all this in the first place=2C beca= use it was working. Unfortunately I was in the midst of several things happ= ening at once=2C so I can't remember if I rebuilt the kernel=2C upgraded xo= rg or both before X failed. As far as I can tell that is only secondary at = any rate=2C as I need to prevent this happening again during upgrades/updat= es whatever. My main questions here are: 1. How do debug Xorg? The debug flags haven't provided much at all so far (= maybe I've done it wrong?) 2. Why can I get the busid failure and Xorg keep going? How do I force it? = Where is this problem lying (kmod=2C driver=2C server)? Is it critical? 3. Is the MIT-SHM error the cause of my problems? (Or a contributor) 4. What do I need to do about the Mesa library? Is this related to the core= issue? Is this a known bug in the port build? I've considered manually debugging the drmGetBusID failure=2C but I don't e= xactly relish the idea of going through that much code. I could easily foll= ow the procedures in the wiki=2C but I'd rather go through ports. I've also just completely removed xorg and started again with the cflags=2C= but it has failed again at the dri port. I hope someone help here... :/ Cheers _________________________________________________________________ Get the latest news=2C goss and sport Make ninemsn your homepage! http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=3D813730= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 06:57:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A88A1065670 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 06:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwdevel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495CE8FC17 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 06:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwdevel@gmail.com) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so2135542yxe.3 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:57:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Jbi6lfVdBZEJtYbqpxtczWJcOQvq2xHsvmnxmB6MvWA=; b=PRhdfY2Gub42Mg9B4GsfDncwAv3APiA5MPugbaQBE5V56VWA56WU5mzUjeg4AMWUNh 18aCPH2pso3pureda49XfWTWF2btpF05kaZR8xz7hCFizHrbrT1vjE4mGwRiKXbV/15h uNWoQvuxLk0vqrAEzZ+V9WohzyxtND7nfKx8Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=JfWzLCX73RkAc1/tiaG2Kg2i17SZEiyLsrxpDHQMxIS+sJlrNv9l3bBhwE3XO1dqZR SPjPcA2lObCMI9VnzcBna9RT9m6Zjo6bENI8F1V4Nh+11jAGjS4ANncEPxoR240wiz04 U+S6cFdfXMO2MXPn456QHwonV0eys0GGrUOUc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.92.16 with SMTP id p16mr1986625agb.99.1246516575299; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:36:15 -0700 Message-ID: From: jw To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: kernel panic on SATA drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:57:34 -0000 I've been having an intermittent problem, wonder if someone on the list has any ideas. First my setup: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE (amd64) quad-core Phenom processor mobo: MSI K9N2G Neo chipset: NVIDIA GeForce 8200, which FreeBSD recognizes as nForce (not sure how that works) I have a 3ware RAID card (RAID 1), which is the boot device. A seagate drive connected via SATA A WD external drive via USB I will have the system running fine, then the seagate will apparently fall off the bus, resulting in a panic. The dump fails as well, presumably due to the 3ware driver not being able to handle the panic? not sure... If anyone knows a way I can get the dump to succeed, I'd appreciate that info, too. See below output for details. The first time I had the problem, it would regularly happen when I tried to install a particular port (sudo). Then I changed where the SATA cable was plugged in and tried un/re-plugging the USB external drive and rebooting and managed to get it working (so I thought). One weird aspect of that process is that the BIOS would not even list the SATA drive until I switched it to a different plug... freaked me out a bit. Also during POST it would hang for many seconds, when I had the USB drive plugged in, until I went through my random plugging/unplugging/replugging shenanigans. But now it has happened again, this time while copying lots of files from the USB external drive to the SATA one. Both drives are recognized by BIOS (and FreeBSD) on reboot this time, at least. But I'm hesitant to just 'call it good' - I'd like this to be a stable server (: I manually transcribed the bulk of the output - is there a nicer way to get the output of a kernel panic so I can copy/paste? I didn't find an obvious command, though I'm no FreeBSD guru. If someone could tell me how to get that output, I'd be greatful. ---- output below ---- ad7: FAILURE - device detached g_vfs_done():ad7s1d[WRITE(offset=340978335744, length=16384)]error = 6 g_vfs_done():ad7s1d[WRITE(offset=340978352128, length=16384)]error = 6 /dev: got error 6 while accessing filesystem panic: softdep_deallocate_dependencies: unrecovered I/O error cpuid=2 Uptime: 15h23m39s Physical memory: 7923MB Dumping 733MB: 718 702 686 670 654 638twe0:completion event for nonbusy command twe0: completion event for nonbusy command twe0: completion event for nonbusy command twe0: completion event for nonbusy command twe0: completion event for nonbusy command twe0: completion event for nonbusy command twe0: FATAL STATUS BIT(S) 200000 twe0: status 13207fd2 ### At this point in the log a bunch of output starts getting interleaved, character-by-character even. ### Maybe due to multi-cpus dumping output simultaneously? I don't know... ### eventually... twe0: can't drain AEN queue twe0: controller reset in progress twe0: reset 1 failed ### snip more failing messages twe0: can't reset controller, giving up #Then some more stuff that I haven't written down ---- end log --- So.... any thoughts? Maybe it's just a mobo / chipset compatibility issue? I should have known with a mobo that says "GeForce 8200" for chipset. I thought NVIDIA support was pretty good in FreeBSD though... Do you think recompiling my own kernel would help? Do you think installing a different version of FreeBSD would help? (My main experience is with 6.2) It was quite odd to me that even the BIOS stopped recognizing the SATA drive the first time. Any thoughts on that? Thanks for any feedback -John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 07:07:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7A81065674 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from f.mail.ru.ac.za (f.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58688FC18 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=oMf/9YqcJLaigKXc04Gol6+5Y2FmPKaF4i5zSWXJ75Rvo3b99ZIJSquIqXL6NpQ8HBl11zUlex3PfMyWA0imQuGuGeAM5YDX2V+Ws1u6xVFLUxRyjsTlNWJ+0/TVOeGf; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:55655) by f.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MMGNw-000Hyh-F5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:07:08 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:07:08 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090702072125.6a3e513d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090702072125.6a3e513d.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: f.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:6) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:07:10 -0000 On Thursday 02 July 2009 07:21:25 Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:58:15 -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > > QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you > > prefer? and why? > > Actually, I'm not a Linux user. But Linux was my first step into > using UNIX on a x86 PC. More than 10 years ago, I started with > Slackware Linux, and with the rise of FreeBSD 4.0, I did abandon > it. I was wondering if there were any other Slackers out there! I've still got my first Linux distribution, and possibly my first FreeBSD release too: I bought the Walnut Creek 4-CD box of Slackware 3.6 in a little shop in the West End of London, and a couple of years later, the boxed set of FreeBSD 4.5 from either the Linux Emporium or CheapBytes (can't remember which). Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 07:32:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97BF1065670; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nico-freebsd-raid-monitoring-20090703@schottelius.org) Received: from mx3.schottelius.org (mx3.schottelius.org [77.109.138.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85ED28FC08; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nico-freebsd-raid-monitoring-20090703@schottelius.org) Received: from ikn.ethz.ch (mx3.schottelius.org [77.109.138.221]) by mx3.schottelius.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61A39197A005; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:12:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by ikn.ethz.ch (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E2B16101D8; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:10:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:10:32 +0200 From: Nico Schottelius To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090702071032.GA18288@ikn.schottelius.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: echo $message | gpg -e $sender -s | netcat mailhost 25 X-Unix-Info: http://unix.schottelius.org/ X-Netzseite: http://nico.schottelius.org/ X-System-Info: ikn (Linux 2.6.30-rc7 x86_64) Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Raid Monitoring website moved X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:32:17 -0000 --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good morning everybody, the FreeBSD raid monitoring website, which contains a lot information regarding raid monitoring under FreeBSD, has a new home: http://www.nico.schottelius.org/docs/freebsd-raid-monitoring/ If you've additional information or updates, please let me know at nico-freebsd-raid-monitoring-web --at-- schottelius.org. Sincerly, Nico --=20 Currently moving *.schottelius.org to http://www.nico.schottelius.org/ ... PGP: BFE4 C736 ABE5 406F 8F42 F7CF B8BE F92A 9885 188C --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpMXWgACgkQuL75KpiFGIw4MgCeKFUb+w7kqY2MI8A30pURNx/P KlkAnR0y4M2nuLUxlws8ruUL7dlygRKN =ofXy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 10:04:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AC11065677 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:04:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5736E8FC26 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:04:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1254359fxm.43 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:04:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5U06nso03WTi9RcByzHiXZWO2qI4YR86yalhAq330f0=; b=GNjiCyISpCQbdQNv+/ikwkLYxB0gtCbKcrtd6TDLENZ8w6XZUu4wFDFfHfsVdRxlWg xDXU0La3VA8fiE0mUMkxCjy0W6cEc55G4enQavYN79/fb0qVIZi99+cSutPfz6lBX/fn Q8i+e/tfB9h5fgTTJA+GWpNRDDMlZZterJTsU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xx6V8a3q9EYs1nM2nIRFOFL144/8GsxdVXCBGH0jUrRIsUZ54k+7mitwVQ+uk7u/dx VTf6KS34699ndbXYo01k/pPKV4wHR9RWd4Eg9bFwg3nE5zf8TIv8d7+Fz8toh9Mpk3rb TWopKdvX1Ppgf5fN+3XO0p7trbwmx8YH3zspA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.101.80 with SMTP id b16mr10636680bko.73.1246529043305; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:04:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3d5d3ca90907011845g26124a59y9643ef4623610f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d5d3ca90907011048t1a096865iceaa3b82c1af82f4@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907011055r3750fd54rb66612a4b110e090@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907011120h35b5e665gee30466ce72097e7@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907011526ka68c664s3606fdc9b4ad2889@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907011845g26124a59y9643ef4623610f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:04:03 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750907020304tcb3296fy574dfc4b0fd7d875@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Robert Hall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:04:05 -0000 On 7/2/09, Robert Hall wrote: >> And what about TX/RX signal? > > I don't know where to look for that. :) It is part of scan output. >> Could you put backtrace somewhere? >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug-gdb.html > > Backtrace from crashing with a Belkin ndis: > (kgdb) backtrace > #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:196 > #1 0xc055bcc3 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:418 > #2 0xc055bece in panic (fmt=Variable "fmt" is not available. > ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:574 > #3 0xc079041c in trap_fatal (frame=0xd5f9571c, eva=0) at > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:939 > #4 0xc0790680 in trap_pfault (frame=0xd5f9571c, usermode=0, eva=0) at > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:852 > #5 0xc0790fd9 in trap (frame=0xd5f9571c) at > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:530 > #6 0xc077dbbb in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:159 > #7 0xc32b5239 in BLKWGDv7_sys_drv_data_start () from > /boot/modules/BLKWGDv7_sys.ko > Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) > > And from a Linksys crash > (kgdb) backtrace > #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:196 > #1 0xc055bcc3 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:418 > #2 0xc055bece in panic (fmt=Variable "fmt" is not available. > ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:574 > #3 0xc079041c in trap_fatal (frame=0xd600cb98, eva=382216) at > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:939 > #4 0xc0790680 in trap_pfault (frame=0xd600cb98, usermode=0, > eva=382216) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:852 > #5 0xc0790fd9 in trap (frame=0xd600cb98) at > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:530 > #6 0xc077dbbb in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:159 > #7 0xc329dde6 in rt61_sys_drv_data_start () from > /boot/modules/./rt61_sys.ko > Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) > > I hope this is what you were asking for. :) > Does crash happens if you load them after boot? -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 10:15:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81373106566C for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artifexor@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CBA8FC08 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artifexor@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1255388bwz.43 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:15:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=riKr1YU3SXXN2twagfR9V8NIUP7IFHMaDSrTGgqUl8A=; b=bySkSy8gp4y82zFslM2he0wndMaplQgb5FDxc5PU1uICnJIsudHLSHZ2NHgsPAAKpZ NQBDmn38jSc54AkTtk+ESMvEMkrSmiEP0kUhxpGsknQ5V+xSZxwjApZJBeTovZa2GAsw eaN3pmWToOcM/YmOS6X6lJ1JPtlQDVkr6m8Ec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=N8CsdJYqJ7QmJwFKaGiX3o9Hjco4X+m7U0brh1W69uXF5QH01m+Ogow14y0oVZL46v GXp2JKxjZ6XEHzJxITFik2qSuRSL1BSJt/N69Owq/Ne3JNduUfb5dVGaUBu/U10Xr3UY 9BQJW6bdxf3RvhsuH53+xZ6PEGzabE96bo9G0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.119.129 with SMTP id z1mr10560926bkq.67.1246528066941; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:47:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:47:46 +0200 Message-ID: <9cbf3f070907020247i5a6fefeco736034bd84d0ee67@mail.gmail.com> From: Artifex Maximus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:15:26 -0000 Hello! On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Daniel Underwood wrote: > QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you > prefer? and why? I used to like Slackware but moved to Ubuntu two or three years before. I liked Slackware simplicity but its package system was too simple and then I moved to FreeBSD. Some years before I had found Ubuntu and stayed there for Linux boxes. Some people prefer Debian over Ubuntu but I dislike Debian approach on packages (namely patch the older version as long as you can instead of switch to a newer one). Bye, a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 10:16:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB771065680 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85C18FC24 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1256154bwz.43 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:16:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SZS3PYPx1UvSTRfiRThzDst1DtDzqCXpr3YaxdqFrcU=; b=JbxtVlUR03WzGF4bI7pqN79AM0TBvvLy/j9XhxHuuD503dHynWARF35GmN/tN8rr/e U2cmF8miMex+D0WvvMEUhYodPqvRi0vPdgnMRue0vuyElJm9E7iXBuaHWRNapKdT5lrL pjtMm+yX31nNg2dN8iUXEIqsRPudF/VTOUG/w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hFiN3aGpwcIzK5e/RY/nDMFmcLVdCaq9WLty2ZHTi2BN4FpPQojmBP5qut7ANkTTo3 nLxVUXNNwP/gifsDdAkfwRc4hxkS53tFRaeeqafQ9pcsInSCVW1oOTnh0Kt6EW/mzKqz TKrrRp+smpsG9vAnxa4ZjfAQ7Kh925V0S4rP8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.65.65 with SMTP id h1mr10624870bki.18.1246529809829; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:16:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:16:49 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750907020316o34095c68ua5581b201f206b28@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Da Rock Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X fails to start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:16:51 -0000 On 7/2/09, Da Rock wrote: > > I'm still having intermittent troubles with getting the freebsd servers > seeing my mail servers for my normal maillist subscription, so if I could be > cc'd... > > I'm struggling to get my head around a reasonably severe problem with Xorg - > I'm wondering if anyone else is having the same. I've installed Xorg, got it > working, started to refine some settings with the wm and other apps for it, > and then Xorg refuses to work. > > My xorg log has only a couple of errors, for reference I'm using the i915 ko > with drm: > > startx: > X.Org X Server 1.6.1 > Release Date: 2009-4-14 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p1 i386 > ... > (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID. > (EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. > Setting master > MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support > > Xorg.0.log: > ... > drmGetBusid returned '' > (II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.0 > (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID. > (EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI > ... > (WW) intel(0): drmDropMaster failed: Unknown error: -1 > ... > (WW) intel(0): PRB0_CTL (0x0001f001) indicates ring buffer enabled > (WW) intel(0): Existing errors found in hardware state. > ... > MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support > ... > (WW) intel(0): drmDropMaster failed: Unknown error: -1 > > Because of my communications issues I've been trying to resolve this myself- > with no luck. I've been trying to get some more info on this, and it seems > to be a huge bug on a lot of linux distros, but noone has a clear response- > it all seems to be a secondary issue to whatever their problem is. SO, I > then tried to find out how to debug, and ran into ANOTHER issue. I've > rebuilt xorg-server with debug (ccflags='-O0 -g3' as per xorg wiki) with no > real success, so then I moved to dri and hit this wall: > > ../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xbb90):../../../src/mesa/glapi/glapitemp.h:4951: > first defined here > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.o(.text+0x4130): In function > `glPointParameteri': > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.S:1270: multiple definition of > `glPointParameteri' > ../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xc8e0):../../../src/mesa/glapi/glapitemp.h:5256: > first defined here > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.o(.text+0x4140): In function > `glPointParameteriv': > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.S:1271: multiple definition of > `glPointParameteriv' > ../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xc940):../../../src/mesa/glapi/glapitemp.h:5266: > first defined here > mklib: Installing libGL.so.1 libGL.so in ../../../lib > mv: rename libGL.so.1 to ../../../lib/libGL.so.1: No such file or directory > gmake[2]: *** [../../../lib/libGL.so] Error 1 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/dri/work/Mesa-7.4.4/src/glx/x11' > gmake[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/dri/work/Mesa-7.4.4/src' > gmake: *** [default] Error 1 > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/dri. > > The various warnings are in the gallon, but my main problem lay with the > mklib error. So I tried to simply copy or rename libGL.so(.1) to make it > happy (I couldn't find references in the Makefile(s) after half an hour of > examination, so I took a little shortcut). It did, but then the gallon of > warnings came back to hit me again- but harder, and so I get another stop in > the build. > > So now I can't get dri back, I can't get X working and I'm losing my > patience fast! :) > > What I can't figure out is what started all this in the first place, because > it was working. Unfortunately I was in the midst of several things happening > at once, so I can't remember if I rebuilt the kernel, upgraded xorg or both > before X failed. As far as I can tell that is only secondary at any rate, as > I need to prevent this happening again during upgrades/updates whatever. > > My main questions here are: > > 1. How do debug Xorg? The debug flags haven't provided much at all so far > (maybe I've done it wrong?) You can still use xf86-video-vesa even without dri. Debug flags are useful only if Xorg crashed and dropped core. > 2. Why can I get the busid failure and Xorg keep going? How do I force it? > Where is this problem lying (kmod, driver, server)? Is it critical? What kernel modules are loaded? What version of server, Mesa, drivers are installed and how are they installed? > 3. Is the MIT-SHM error the cause of my problems? (Or a contributor) You are using custom kernel without sysv* modules. Not a good idea for X. > 4. What do I need to do about the Mesa library? Is this related to the core > issue? Is this a known bug in the port build? Your environment is highly polluted. > I've considered manually debugging the drmGetBusID failure, but I don't > exactly relish the idea of going through that much code. I could easily > follow the procedures in the wiki, but I'd rather go through ports. > > I've also just completely removed xorg and started again with the cflags, > but it has failed again at the dri port. > > I hope someone help here... :/ -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 11:13:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E80D1065670 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s25.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s25.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F5F8FC0C for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY143-W2 ([65.55.154.37]) by bay0-omc1-s25.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 2 Jul 2009 04:13:33 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [150.101.178.33] From: Da Rock To: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:13:33 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3a142e750907020316o34095c68ua5581b201f206b28@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a142e750907020316o34095c68ua5581b201f206b28@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2009 11:13:33.0253 (UTC) FILETIME=[2302C750:01C9FB06] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: X fails to start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:13:33 -0000 > Date: Thu=2C 2 Jul 2009 12:16:49 +0200 > Subject: Re: X fails to start > From: onemda@gmail.com > To: rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >=20 > On 7/2/09=2C Da Rock wrote: > > > > I'm still having intermittent troubles with getting the freebsd servers > > seeing my mail servers for my normal maillist subscription=2C so if I c= ould be > > cc'd... > > > > I'm struggling to get my head around a reasonably severe problem with X= org - > > I'm wondering if anyone else is having the same. I've installed Xorg=2C= got it > > working=2C started to refine some settings with the wm and other apps f= or it=2C > > and then Xorg refuses to work. > > > > My xorg log has only a couple of errors=2C for reference I'm using the = i915 ko > > with drm: > > > > startx: > > X.Org X Server 1.6.1 > > Release Date: 2009-4-14 > > X Protocol Version 11=2C Revision 0 > > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p1 i386 > > ... > > (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID. > > (EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. > > Setting master > > MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support > > > > Xorg.0.log: > > ... > > drmGetBusid returned '' > > (II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.0 > > (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID. > > (EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI > > ... > > (WW) intel(0): drmDropMaster failed: Unknown error: -1 > > ... > > (WW) intel(0): PRB0_CTL (0x0001f001) indicates ring buffer enabled > > (WW) intel(0): Existing errors found in hardware state. > > ... > > MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support > > ... > > (WW) intel(0): drmDropMaster failed: Unknown error: -1 > > > > Because of my communications issues I've been trying to resolve this my= self- > > with no luck. I've been trying to get some more info on this=2C and it = seems > > to be a huge bug on a lot of linux distros=2C but noone has a clear res= ponse- > > it all seems to be a secondary issue to whatever their problem is. SO= =2C I > > then tried to find out how to debug=2C and ran into ANOTHER issue. I've > > rebuilt xorg-server with debug (ccflags=3D'-O0 -g3' as per xorg wiki) w= ith no > > real success=2C so then I moved to dri and hit this wall: > > > > ../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xbb90):../../../src/mesa/glapi= /glapitemp.h:4951: > > first defined here > > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.o(.text+0x4130): In function > > `glPointParameteri': > > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.S:1270: multiple definition of > > `glPointParameteri' > > ../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xc8e0):../../../src/mesa/glapi= /glapitemp.h:5256: > > first defined here > > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.o(.text+0x4140): In function > > `glPointParameteriv': > > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.S:1271: multiple definition of > > `glPointParameteriv' > > ../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xc940):../../../src/mesa/glapi= /glapitemp.h:5266: > > first defined here > > mklib: Installing libGL.so.1 libGL.so in ../../../lib > > mv: rename libGL.so.1 to ../../../lib/libGL.so.1: No such file or direc= tory > > gmake[2]: *** [../../../lib/libGL.so] Error 1 > > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > > `/usr/ports/graphics/dri/work/Mesa-7.4.4/src/glx/x11' > > gmake[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 1 > > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/dri/work/Mesa-7.4.4/sr= c' > > gmake: *** [default] Error 1 > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/dri. > > > > The various warnings are in the gallon=2C but my main problem lay with = the > > mklib error. So I tried to simply copy or rename libGL.so(.1) to make i= t > > happy (I couldn't find references in the Makefile(s) after half an hour= of > > examination=2C so I took a little shortcut). It did=2C but then the gal= lon of > > warnings came back to hit me again- but harder=2C and so I get another = stop in > > the build. > > > > So now I can't get dri back=2C I can't get X working and I'm losing my > > patience fast! :) > > > > What I can't figure out is what started all this in the first place=2C = because > > it was working. Unfortunately I was in the midst of several things happ= ening > > at once=2C so I can't remember if I rebuilt the kernel=2C upgraded xorg= or both > > before X failed. As far as I can tell that is only secondary at any rat= e=2C as > > I need to prevent this happening again during upgrades/updates whatever= . > > > > My main questions here are: > > > > 1. How do debug Xorg? The debug flags haven't provided much at all so f= ar > > (maybe I've done it wrong?) >=20 > You can still use xf86-video-vesa even without dri. > Debug flags are useful only if Xorg crashed and dropped core. >=20 Nuts! :( > > 2. Why can I get the busid failure and Xorg keep going? How do I force = it? > > Where is this problem lying (kmod=2C driver=2C server)? Is it critical? >=20 > What kernel modules are loaded? What version of server=2C Mesa=2C drivers > are installed > and how are they installed? >=20 KMods: i915.ko drm.ko Xorg Server: 1.6.1 (in the Xorg log) Mesa (not entirely sure now=2C was current I believe though- I'll have to w= ait and see once I can build again...) Drivers: (installed or used?) used intel- xorg ports. Incidentally vesa is = available=2C and is failover in the conf=2C but it doesn't get there. Its a= lso installed via ports. > > 3. Is the MIT-SHM error the cause of my problems? (Or a contributor) >=20 > You are using custom kernel without sysv* modules. Not a good idea for X. >=20 Interesting. Isn't this standard in GENERIC? I have built a kernel=2C but o= nly GENERIC=2C which I would have thought had the standard kit in it that c= omes with a distro on disk. > > 4. What do I need to do about the Mesa library? Is this related to the = core > > issue? Is this a known bug in the port build? >=20 > Your environment is highly polluted. >=20 eh? I could use some explanation on this=2C especially considering my last = remedy used in this communication. As per my last comment in the OP=2C I've= run portsclean -C and then removed all ports (something I have the luxury = of doing being a new system install)=2C and started again- with the same re= sult. What exactly do I have to clean up to remove the pollution? (This is = no reflection on your comment=2C I'm merely at a loss to know what could be= getting in the way here given my situation) > > I've considered manually debugging the drmGetBusID failure=2C but I don= 't > > exactly relish the idea of going through that much code. I could easily > > follow the procedures in the wiki=2C but I'd rather go through ports. > > > > I've also just completely removed xorg and started again with the cflag= s=2C > > but it has failed again at the dri port. > > > > I hope someone can help here... :/ >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Paul _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a place to rent=2C share or buy this winter? Find your next pla= ce with Ninemsn=A0property http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Edomain%2Ecom%2E= au%2F%3Fs%5Fcid%3DFDMedia%3ANineMSN%5FHotmail%5FTagline&_t=3D774152450&_r= =3DDomain_tagline&_m=3DEXT= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 11:54:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A2F1065674 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94578FC16 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1304447bwz.43 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:54:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vgDtA281IFeqClAK52bAsaQ45aGT0T7fVfVWZjsDsnY=; b=IyRHrfJf6OIHrACVaWudcHvw4uHGBRmaKLMakJPQNGt/VTcNMDUz6IjVfEA0Lge09e jAv5B6lmg8WfQMWHcTaV8qp0Dvj9tF+vxZdYJXGIY+V4eFZgF6R6A7kfKk1SfNC2XKDv OCmT8qRjm3QDxAqFh/VJNzVbqOaEshCip+358= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q6Q2ymF/94702Sb/aFePwIxNcZmZefOOggKJg0dFcaEhUU/tm8Swkytc8ZAIS87DBR gH8BWD2+phGXWmJ0E/jy5USV47RAnVJNlXxFEIx3PQnA44u6Y6y4MYtEWs4+1jBTHl0w 8oO1zD13my21mNbg5vuMk8+/QfUKz4v9qNJkI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.66.2 with SMTP id l2mr10625657bki.177.1246535662680; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:54:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3a142e750907020316o34095c68ua5581b201f206b28@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:54:22 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750907020454w73d6cb01v8eba8893a66b2533@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Da Rock Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X fails to start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:54:24 -0000 On 7/2/09, Da Rock wrote: >> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:16:49 +0200 >> Subject: Re: X fails to start >> From: onemda@gmail.com >> To: rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com >> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >> On 7/2/09, Da Rock wrote: >> > >> > I'm still having intermittent troubles with getting the freebsd servers >> > seeing my mail servers for my normal maillist subscription, so if I >> > could be >> > cc'd... >> > >> > I'm struggling to get my head around a reasonably severe problem with >> > Xorg - >> > I'm wondering if anyone else is having the same. I've installed Xorg, >> > got it >> > working, started to refine some settings with the wm and other apps for >> > it, >> > and then Xorg refuses to work. >> > >> > My xorg log has only a couple of errors, for reference I'm using the >> > i915 ko >> > with drm: >> > >> > startx: >> > X.Org X Server 1.6.1 >> > Release Date: 2009-4-14 >> > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 >> > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p1 i386 >> > ... >> > (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID. >> > (EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. >> > Setting master >> > MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support >> > >> > Xorg.0.log: >> > ... >> > drmGetBusid returned '' >> > (II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.0 >> > (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID. >> > (EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI >> > ... >> > (WW) intel(0): drmDropMaster failed: Unknown error: -1 >> > ... >> > (WW) intel(0): PRB0_CTL (0x0001f001) indicates ring buffer enabled >> > (WW) intel(0): Existing errors found in hardware state. >> > ... >> > MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support >> > ... >> > (WW) intel(0): drmDropMaster failed: Unknown error: -1 >> > >> > Because of my communications issues I've been trying to resolve this >> > myself- >> > with no luck. I've been trying to get some more info on this, and it >> > seems >> > to be a huge bug on a lot of linux distros, but noone has a clear >> > response- >> > it all seems to be a secondary issue to whatever their problem is. SO, I >> > then tried to find out how to debug, and ran into ANOTHER issue. I've >> > rebuilt xorg-server with debug (ccflags='-O0 -g3' as per xorg wiki) with >> > no >> > real success, so then I moved to dri and hit this wall: >> > >> > ../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xbb90):../../../src/mesa/glapi/glapitemp.h:4951: >> > first defined here >> > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.o(.text+0x4130): In function >> > `glPointParameteri': >> > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.S:1270: multiple definition of >> > `glPointParameteri' >> > ../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xc8e0):../../../src/mesa/glapi/glapitemp.h:5256: >> > first defined here >> > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.o(.text+0x4140): In function >> > `glPointParameteriv': >> > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.S:1271: multiple definition of >> > `glPointParameteriv' >> > ../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xc940):../../../src/mesa/glapi/glapitemp.h:5266: >> > first defined here >> > mklib: Installing libGL.so.1 libGL.so in ../../../lib >> > mv: rename libGL.so.1 to ../../../lib/libGL.so.1: No such file or >> > directory >> > gmake[2]: *** [../../../lib/libGL.so] Error 1 >> > gmake[2]: Leaving directory >> > `/usr/ports/graphics/dri/work/Mesa-7.4.4/src/glx/x11' >> > gmake[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 1 >> > gmake[1]: Leaving directory >> > `/usr/ports/graphics/dri/work/Mesa-7.4.4/src' >> > gmake: *** [default] Error 1 >> > *** Error code 1 >> > >> > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/dri. >> > >> > The various warnings are in the gallon, but my main problem lay with the >> > mklib error. So I tried to simply copy or rename libGL.so(.1) to make it >> > happy (I couldn't find references in the Makefile(s) after half an hour >> > of >> > examination, so I took a little shortcut). It did, but then the gallon >> > of >> > warnings came back to hit me again- but harder, and so I get another >> > stop in >> > the build. >> > >> > So now I can't get dri back, I can't get X working and I'm losing my >> > patience fast! :) >> > >> > What I can't figure out is what started all this in the first place, >> > because >> > it was working. Unfortunately I was in the midst of several things >> > happening >> > at once, so I can't remember if I rebuilt the kernel, upgraded xorg or >> > both >> > before X failed. As far as I can tell that is only secondary at any >> > rate, as >> > I need to prevent this happening again during upgrades/updates whatever. >> > >> > My main questions here are: >> > >> > 1. How do debug Xorg? The debug flags haven't provided much at all so >> > far >> > (maybe I've done it wrong?) >> >> You can still use xf86-video-vesa even without dri. >> Debug flags are useful only if Xorg crashed and dropped core. >> > > Nuts! :( > >> > 2. Why can I get the busid failure and Xorg keep going? How do I force >> > it? >> > Where is this problem lying (kmod, driver, server)? Is it critical? >> >> What kernel modules are loaded? What version of server, Mesa, drivers >> are installed >> and how are they installed? >> > > KMods: > i915.ko > drm.ko > > Xorg Server: 1.6.1 (in the Xorg log) > Mesa (not entirely sure now, was current I believe though- I'll have to wait > and see once I can build again...) > Drivers: (installed or used?) used intel- xorg ports. Incidentally vesa is > available, and is failover in the conf, but it doesn't get there. Its also > installed via ports. You can use vesa if you specify alternative or modify default server layout. But anyway without xorg.conf I can't comment on this. >> > 3. Is the MIT-SHM error the cause of my problems? (Or a contributor) >> >> You are using custom kernel without sysv* modules. Not a good idea for X. >> > > Interesting. Isn't this standard in GENERIC? I have built a kernel, but only > GENERIC, which I would have thought had the standard kit in it that comes > with a distro on disk. Than it is not problem, probably some Xorg way to report errors. >> > 4. What do I need to do about the Mesa library? Is this related to the >> > core >> > issue? Is this a known bug in the port build? >> >> Your environment is highly polluted. >> > > eh? I could use some explanation on this, especially considering my last > remedy used in this communication. As per my last comment in the OP, I've > run portsclean -C and then removed all ports (something I have the luxury of > doing being a new system install), and started again- with the same result. > What exactly do I have to clean up to remove the pollution? (This is no > reflection on your comment, I'm merely at a loss to know what could be > getting in the way here given my situation) Perhaps you forgot to run "make clean"? Just remove whole /usr/local,/usr/ports,/var/db/pkg and update ports tree. Yes, this is very radical approach but I don't know any better way. >> > I've considered manually debugging the drmGetBusID failure, but I don't >> > exactly relish the idea of going through that much code. I could easily >> > follow the procedures in the wiki, but I'd rather go through ports. >> > >> > I've also just completely removed xorg and started again with the >> > cflags, >> > but it has failed again at the dri port. >> > >> > I hope someone can help here... :/ -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 12:07:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB9A1065678 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cameron7@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040A18FC15 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cameron7@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so666727and.13 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:07:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=m5fGtfJ0JywVVgZDWZVA+rXmSS3dn8Dz3cAkrtUCXQ8=; b=NO7ej0CXSzRSVgGTptX8biV9JGpmHKaTNjUUl1W3lZ9+9BcIw1gPPHzrTpWjT/oLZN SI8+wgjChGSbq8rFl4BgqWPzdSaHmo7dLzfUJwUkUHkYzv5gH0nIszxFqx170qh1uTDF bVVDIcWjTiQldTSdqzf1UYZUfFCp3uCoNmhfA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=tz40fsOKGISd5gES/m6HXHYa910eoLG+i1XNQuRCsGg0Z4WmebqDIhmCM5LC/Q7Cq4 +oQlcMD6NU5tnoVIHBBTykH1RqZrCbmlbKCKdi5gkvq6ZBFW5yjr0dsjEJuzvkYu7tcb zMyZBfXkUcQ/lUVCHIpok2WZoTC5/hAk8erXA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.96.4 with SMTP id t4mr15391154anb.170.1246536428512; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:07:06 -0400 Message-ID: <17b5b2ed0907020507n5a0643c5m2fd4f4bc4e9e255d@mail.gmail.com> From: Cameron Jacobson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ssl acceleration cards X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:07:16 -0000 Just wondering if anyone knows whether any ssl acceleration cards on the market support the asynchronous or public-key algorithms? Though I've tested cards I know have public key functionality, the driver FreeBSD uses never seems to support the public key algorithms, only improves processing speed on private key functionality. Ultimately my goal here is to speed up HTTPS on my server. Thanks, Cameron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 12:15:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7DB106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FCE8FC0A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so389478eyd.3 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:15:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ybnxzpbK6GJrM8nVFk2XFBSJlopJ7sQgpcTXL3gJToo=; b=lHweyuoSKxFbfQyB+dNpMmuT03yuztkJDUHQm9mc00E3RJjsDt7gE1GGhXrkPL9eFv NYltqqCXXbu2I7tJpcd5kbEgthTE102/yRGraTXljzePwf4QBZsyE1F3Cm7pY7+zF8qW WU5cc31NcFfpcZnCXxQ1q/7HAxA2utqLXGMis= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=drwCnztUakUojEbGoEnZryPaO4aN0peH6Tb5OgDMiY1+u78St6KCBMLVSqKmeXs8O1 V+N7JKBL0ANcOo2cShjnWgqfoq0p8FE5l8jSrTO4/bDC13M5Szywc4fSqf4rJHlEASfc dtpWh7qs/ohLvTmhuyuhc/B9R1Ysy7whhLkLQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.71.13 with SMTP id q13mr3054704wed.190.1246536932256; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:15:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <560f92640907011752h784aab0l2e02c3c28b458685@mail.gmail.com> References: <560f92640907011752h784aab0l2e02c3c28b458685@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:15:32 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Nerius Landys Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot0 / LILO / GRUB: dual boot FreeBSD and Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:15:34 -0000 Thanks, this is great! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 12:18:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64ABB1065670 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:18:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s32.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s32.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446748FC0A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:18:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY143-W7 ([65.55.154.42]) by bay0-omc1-s32.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 2 Jul 2009 05:18:28 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [150.101.178.33] From: Da Rock To: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:18:28 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3a142e750907020454w73d6cb01v8eba8893a66b2533@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a142e750907020316o34095c68ua5581b201f206b28@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907020454w73d6cb01v8eba8893a66b2533@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2009 12:18:28.0009 (UTC) FILETIME=[34776190:01C9FB0F] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: X fails to start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:18:28 -0000 > Date: Thu=2C 2 Jul 2009 13:54:22 +0200 > Subject: Re: X fails to start > From: onemda@gmail.com > To: rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >=20 > On 7/2/09=2C Da Rock wrote: > >> Date: Thu=2C 2 Jul 2009 12:16:49 +0200 > >> Subject: Re: X fails to start > >> From: onemda@gmail.com > >> To: rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com > >> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> > >> On 7/2/09=2C Da Rock wrote: > >> > > >> > I'm still having intermittent troubles with getting the freebsd serv= ers > >> > seeing my mail servers for my normal maillist subscription=2C so if = I > >> > could be > >> > cc'd... > >> > > >> > I'm struggling to get my head around a reasonably severe problem wit= h > >> > Xorg - > >> > I'm wondering if anyone else is having the same. I've installed Xorg= =2C > >> > got it > >> > working=2C started to refine some settings with the wm and other app= s for > >> > it=2C > >> > and then Xorg refuses to work. > >> > > >> > My xorg log has only a couple of errors=2C for reference I'm using t= he > >> > i915 ko > >> > with drm: > >> > > >> > startx: > >> > X.Org X Server 1.6.1 > >> > Release Date: 2009-4-14 > >> > X Protocol Version 11=2C Revision 0 > >> > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p1 i386 > >> > ... > >> > (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID. > >> > (EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. > >> > Setting master > >> > MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support > >> > > >> > Xorg.0.log: > >> > ... > >> > drmGetBusid returned '' > >> > (II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.0 > >> > (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID. > >> > (EE) intel(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI > >> > ... > >> > (WW) intel(0): drmDropMaster failed: Unknown error: -1 > >> > ... > >> > (WW) intel(0): PRB0_CTL (0x0001f001) indicates ring buffer enabled > >> > (WW) intel(0): Existing errors found in hardware state. > >> > ... > >> > MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support > >> > ... > >> > (WW) intel(0): drmDropMaster failed: Unknown error: -1 > >> > > >> > Because of my communications issues I've been trying to resolve this > >> > myself- > >> > with no luck. I've been trying to get some more info on this=2C and = it > >> > seems > >> > to be a huge bug on a lot of linux distros=2C but noone has a clear > >> > response- > >> > it all seems to be a secondary issue to whatever their problem is. S= O=2C I > >> > then tried to find out how to debug=2C and ran into ANOTHER issue. I= 've > >> > rebuilt xorg-server with debug (ccflags=3D'-O0 -g3' as per xorg wiki= ) with > >> > no > >> > real success=2C so then I moved to dri and hit this wall: > >> > > >> > ../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xbb90):../../../src/mesa/gl= api/glapitemp.h:4951: > >> > first defined here > >> > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.o(.text+0x4130): In function > >> > `glPointParameteri': > >> > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.S:1270: multiple definition of > >> > `glPointParameteri' > >> > ../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xc8e0):../../../src/mesa/gl= api/glapitemp.h:5256: > >> > first defined here > >> > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.o(.text+0x4140): In function > >> > `glPointParameteriv': > >> > ../../../src/mesa/x86/glapi_x86.S:1271: multiple definition of > >> > `glPointParameteriv' > >> > ../../../src/mesa/main/dispatch.o(.text+0xc940):../../../src/mesa/gl= api/glapitemp.h:5266: > >> > first defined here > >> > mklib: Installing libGL.so.1 libGL.so in ../../../lib > >> > mv: rename libGL.so.1 to ../../../lib/libGL.so.1: No such file or > >> > directory > >> > gmake[2]: *** [../../../lib/libGL.so] Error 1 > >> > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > >> > `/usr/ports/graphics/dri/work/Mesa-7.4.4/src/glx/x11' > >> > gmake[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 1 > >> > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > >> > `/usr/ports/graphics/dri/work/Mesa-7.4.4/src' > >> > gmake: *** [default] Error 1 > >> > *** Error code 1 > >> > > >> > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/dri. > >> > > >> > The various warnings are in the gallon=2C but my main problem lay wi= th the > >> > mklib error. So I tried to simply copy or rename libGL.so(.1) to mak= e it > >> > happy (I couldn't find references in the Makefile(s) after half an h= our > >> > of > >> > examination=2C so I took a little shortcut). It did=2C but then the = gallon > >> > of > >> > warnings came back to hit me again- but harder=2C and so I get anoth= er > >> > stop in > >> > the build. > >> > > >> > So now I can't get dri back=2C I can't get X working and I'm losing = my > >> > patience fast! :) > >> > > >> > What I can't figure out is what started all this in the first place= =2C > >> > because > >> > it was working. Unfortunately I was in the midst of several things > >> > happening > >> > at once=2C so I can't remember if I rebuilt the kernel=2C upgraded x= org or > >> > both > >> > before X failed. As far as I can tell that is only secondary at any > >> > rate=2C as > >> > I need to prevent this happening again during upgrades/updates whate= ver. > >> > > >> > My main questions here are: > >> > > >> > 1. How do debug Xorg? The debug flags haven't provided much at all s= o > >> > far > >> > (maybe I've done it wrong?) > >> > >> You can still use xf86-video-vesa even without dri. > >> Debug flags are useful only if Xorg crashed and dropped core. > >> > > > > Nuts! :( > > > >> > 2. Why can I get the busid failure and Xorg keep going? How do I for= ce > >> > it? > >> > Where is this problem lying (kmod=2C driver=2C server)? Is it critic= al? > >> > >> What kernel modules are loaded? What version of server=2C Mesa=2C driv= ers > >> are installed > >> and how are they installed? > >> > > > > KMods: > > i915.ko > > drm.ko > > > > Xorg Server: 1.6.1 (in the Xorg log) > > Mesa (not entirely sure now=2C was current I believe though- I'll have = to wait > > and see once I can build again...) > > Drivers: (installed or used?) used intel- xorg ports. Incidentally vesa= is > > available=2C and is failover in the conf=2C but it doesn't get there. I= ts also > > installed via ports. >=20 > You can use vesa if you specify alternative or modify default server layo= ut. > But anyway without xorg.conf I can't comment on this. >=20 > >> > 3. Is the MIT-SHM error the cause of my problems? (Or a contributor) > >> > >> You are using custom kernel without sysv* modules. Not a good idea for= X. > >> > > > > Interesting. Isn't this standard in GENERIC? I have built a kernel=2C b= ut only > > GENERIC=2C which I would have thought had the standard kit in it that c= omes > > with a distro on disk. >=20 > Than it is not problem=2C probably some Xorg way to report errors. >=20 > >> > 4. What do I need to do about the Mesa library? Is this related to t= he > >> > core > >> > issue? Is this a known bug in the port build? > >> > >> Your environment is highly polluted. > >> > > > > eh? I could use some explanation on this=2C especially considering my l= ast > > remedy used in this communication. As per my last comment in the OP=2C = I've > > run portsclean -C and then removed all ports (something I have the luxu= ry of > > doing being a new system install)=2C and started again- with the same r= esult. > > What exactly do I have to clean up to remove the pollution? (This is no > > reflection on your comment=2C I'm merely at a loss to know what could b= e > > getting in the way here given my situation) >=20 > Perhaps you forgot to run "make clean"? > Just remove whole /usr/local=2C/usr/ports=2C/var/db/pkg and update ports = tree. > Yes=2C this is very radical approach but I don't know any better way. >=20 And I thought I was radical! I didn't want to sound ruthless=2C but I ran p= kg_delete -f \* which I believe achieves the same result (and from what I u= nderstand so does portsclean -C - only available if you have installed port= upgrade as I found out once) and thats how I cleaned my system to start aga= in. For anyone else watching=2C be very careful if and when you do this- do= n't reboot or something until you have a grasp of what you have done! :) In my circumstances its impossible to actually blow away the ports system= =2C but I can kill the pkg db - I'm just not entirely sure why. Ports is up= to date - ran portsnap twice jic. My only other alternative is to blow awa= y usr/local- in case that may be getting in the way (I don't know exactly h= ow=2C but I AM getting desperate!). Before I do that I might run make clean in the ports (jic portsclean isn't = doing its job properly)=2C and blow away the ports db (hence the options sa= ved). I still don't hold much hope. As for the pollution factor=2C I'm not sure. This has to be one of the clea= nest systems I've setup yet- I'm starting small and building up from there= =2C but I haven't even reached the first landing yet! I've had a lot worse- in fact the system itself is a complete rebuild from = the major f***kup I committed before- don't ask what I was thinking=2C but = I did blow away the db dir for pkg AND ports=2C so updates were impossible= =2C and I didn't even know (or the system) what was actually installed (tha= nk god it was only a desktop!). Definitely a blonde moment... and I'm not e= ven blonde (or female)! Must have been a long day or a late night... :) > >> > I've considered manually debugging the drmGetBusID failure=2C but I = don't > >> > exactly relish the idea of going through that much code. I could eas= ily > >> > follow the procedures in the wiki=2C but I'd rather go through ports= . > >> > > >> > I've also just completely removed xorg and started again with the > >> > cflags=2C > >> > but it has failed again at the dri port. > >> > > >> > I hope someone can help here... :/ >=20 > --=20 > Paul _________________________________________________________________ Looking for a place to rent=2C share or buy this winter? Find your next pla= ce with Ninemsn=A0property http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Edomain%2Ecom%2E= au%2F%3Fs%5Fcid%3DFDMedia%3ANineMSN%5FHotmail%5FTagline&_t=3D774152450&_r= =3DDomain_tagline&_m=3DEXT= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 12:27:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D945D1065670 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653E88FC1B for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so1746948ewy.43 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:27:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3aDfmC1Ew5z7l4OMwD+RM+PuO3TpUWQAbsEamIYbhcQ=; b=sKsGe6DDc6wITqldipulQbnZg1cKrxy8foJ1/n/KYf+fyYzBJhpB97AL5CXOYtyPf4 oWLBA4Nl83yuuq+VOV7nu8TEK1EYcrB66e/hq12ymT8tj7aV5ENQ/1s7gzXrFQnjly0t Gpy+DyCoEKa+D+twmpzjtDK8iR2Fzoc1t52Ls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PFEr9oIFticWcFq5Z2x+G2yRl9ppX/AViH/Hf/JM9e3QIJOI6njy27EuU+VVoh1OrW 43fnFca4pdudDpunvyvDRVW9Q5g+00Uj883tl7EQ8YRUzQHG9oijnrnUtOXiGvT9aNEr HZE4WHqS+k2ftFQlWE2o/OvJbtetyvL2xYw7o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.13.210 with SMTP id b60mr3158218web.97.1246537651316; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:27:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090702072125.6a3e513d.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20090702072125.6a3e513d.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:27:31 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:27:33 -0000 >> I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux >> distributions from FreeBSD fans. > > Why? Good question. Because of the perspective many FreeBSD fans (people who like and use FreeBSD) have toward *NIX OS's. You said it well: > "Modern" Linux distributions don't appeal very much to me, because > they are messy: Missing manpages, partially ununderstandable file > system hierarchy layout, untidy source code. These are things, I'm guessing, that the casual Linux user may not appreciate. Someone who has a great deal of experience with both FreeBSD and various Linux distributions, however, probably would appreciate these things. If I were to poll a sample of individuals who only have experience with, say, Windows and Linux, then the responses would likely represent opinions formed upon a wholly different set of criteria. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 08:37:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DDD1065674; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CEE98FC1A; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MMHn8-0003vd-Ip; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:37:17 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MMHn4-0000EO-QI; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:37:11 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n628bAFW066873; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:37:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n628b9J3066872; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:37:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:37:09 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090702083709.GA66827@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090625110253.GA31443@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <10FCC74D-6D46-4112-AD89-BBB4C5933957@mac.com> <20090701105649.GA62596@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.2 X-Spam-Level: - X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:07:04 +0000 Cc: Marcel Moolenaar , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror per partition. Was: Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:37:19 -0000 On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 10:00:54PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> It's better to use gmirror per partition. > > > > Like this? > > > > # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da0p2 > > gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/da0p2: Operation not permitted. > isn't that partition accessed by other process or mounted? should it not be mounted? Sorry, I was just following the handbook, but I now understand it is incorrect when it comes to ia64. many thanks anton > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 10:53:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191A51065673 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deepak.katagade@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f210.google.com (mail-gx0-f210.google.com [209.85.217.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E2B8FC19 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deepak.katagade@gmail.com) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so975478gxk.19 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:53:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=/BAiLV/WERLSl21J+dJie3LEyCtXYM6wOvbymiy18Mw=; b=NwpdmydPwGTb4zA3qpIACll+UleQcMHA4xmv40hT115gAr0CasLjm+ooKG3uA9dl/S aCas5ySg5E+2VLuPEbQgcYHNI2XmlQBjMU1v8qYfFDEZ4PLgPC3aBPUyZDlnwdPOT4Lx iqBwq9hze031DNg55OQdTjdbP8yF4z3OoCsnI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=KqWVnO9Z3pz7OaG5WgVjdyHqrPez5bBXK1GnWPQgc77yI5Z7jRm6oricMpPv+G+Zom +4SP9XA3eI4Abk5hxu6WSyP3Us7R0JhUR70ox0Mui81L7Ipyw3RFjfWY3bVZ7g8YdpxN Vzaxig65GqK+wJzQfqyIG+hHYJyEi1agheI1U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.99.3 with SMTP id w3mr3736483agb.50.1246530448519; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:57:28 +0530 Message-ID: <6f0f8ee70907020327s4588952eq7281050554a41ac5@mail.gmail.com> From: Deepak Madhusudan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:15:15 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to get SystemMemorySize? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:53:55 -0000 Hi All, In linux driver in order to get the system memory size we can get it using the following call. struct sysinfo si; si_meminfo(&si); return (si.tatotalram); Is there any similar call in freebsd to get the following information.Currently i am using freebsd 6.3.Please let me know. Thanks and regards, Deepak From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 14:02:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96985106564A; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A971B8FC15; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::2]) by wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n62E2atR012668; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:02:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n62DmgDc002283; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:48:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n62Dmfbi002280; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:48:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:48:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Anton Shterenlikht In-Reply-To: <20090702083709.GA66827@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> Message-ID: References: <20090625110253.GA31443@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <10FCC74D-6D46-4112-AD89-BBB4C5933957@mac.com> <20090701105649.GA62596@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090702083709.GA66827@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org, Marcel Moolenaar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror per partition. Was: Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:02:32 -0000 >>> >>> # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da0p2 >>> gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/da0p2: Operation not permitted. >> isn't that partition accessed by other process or mounted? > > should it not be mounted? yes it should not, no matter what architecture. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 14:28:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C544E106567F for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9609F8FC2E for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so737129wfg.7 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:28:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mRUFKJZRlJR2opz6GpN82hAtVExVrJttGThM7TSJRcQ=; b=aQyzsm90bkKt5OtTbqs2gZ/V4vh+yCPVy8QEfNHvnHu5VeFCklqKCOqsqzCvyC+g1q BLn/Q3bANzir5Y2svo8eSoVu2VlJ1X6xBmqUDlkNlWK3VIRZOdrqs0YhGgI/KuZVqkGm JrPzA/sHlGXwdOMk0hMcrvtEzUDP98IqAjJZI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fA7bLraoc/t9S2yS3I38Ocp4BnctMBqAtNTle/4Wf5Ns4J4qEMFwxBqRUhwg8FWJCq RXAvuNAqp5jGVm5D42uEceM7eO463mGt+NLRqZjaMe1Ep2iZVnuUmBGfDpjbmXGKzGih 8OaVSXkcSTZbSmtNzDmHE4ZXPIHmXio06Qd+Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.162.9 with SMTP id k9mr32576wfe.344.1246544881247; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:28:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090702072125.6a3e513d.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20090702072125.6a3e513d.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:28:01 -0600 Message-ID: <64c038660907020728q5b78fb9av1b60591716b9d733@mail.gmail.com> From: Modulok To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Daniel Underwood , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:28:02 -0000 > On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:58:15 -0400, Daniel Underwood > wrote: >> QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you >> prefer? and why? > > "Modern" Linux distributions don't appeal very much to me, because > they are messy: Missing manpages... That and Linux seems to only ever get the abridged version of manual pages. When you compare manual pages for an equivalent commands between FreeBSD and most Linux flavors, it really shows. I noticed this when I went from Debian to FreeBSD. "Finally! Real documentation!" -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 14:59:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAD41065670 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@dannysplace.net) Received: from mail.dannysplace.net (mail.dannysplace.net [80.69.71.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DE58FC19 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@dannysplace.net) Received: from 60-242-243-193.static.tpgi.com.au ([60.242.243.193] helo=[192.168.10.10]) by mail.dannysplace.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MMNKA-000BCy-0q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:31:45 +1000 Message-ID: <4A4CC4F1.6080303@dannysplace.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:32:17 +1000 From: Danny Carroll User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: danny X-Authenticator: plain X-Sender-Verify: SUCCEEDED (sender exists & accepts mail) X-Exim-Version: 4.69 (build at 08-Jul-2008 08:59:40) X-Date: 2009-07-03 00:31:42 X-Connected-IP: 60.242.243.193:13381 X-Message-Linecount: 171 X-Body-Linecount: 160 X-Message-Size: 9256 X-Body-Size: 8879 X-Received-Count: 1 X-Recipient-Count: 1 X-Local-Recipient-Count: 1 X-Local-Recipient-Defer-Count: 0 X-Local-Recipient-Fail-Count: 0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 60.242.243.193 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: fbsd@dannysplace.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ferrari.dannysplace.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail.dannysplace.net) Subject: Strange startup behaviour. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd@dannysplace.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:59:38 -0000 Since I recently started using freebsd as a adsl gateway I have noticed some strange things at startup. /etc/rc.d/natd does not get executed. If I run it manually it works fine but not at boot time. I just rebooted now and (again) had to re-start natd. Looking at the startup scipts I see some strange things. The access time on some scripts is from yesterday. I wonder if someone might have an idea on where I'd start to look at this, or perhaps has seen this behaviour before? The systems is 7.2 P5. # ls -lasut /etc/rc.d/ total 382 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 285 Jul 3 00:17 adjkerntz 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1763 Jul 3 00:17 random 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 405 Jul 3 00:17 FILESYSTEMS 10 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9386 Jul 3 00:17 bluetooth 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 328 Jul 3 00:17 ccd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 523 Jul 3 00:17 ddb 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1120 Jul 3 00:17 dumpon 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 383 Jul 3 00:17 early.sh 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1151 Jul 3 00:17 encswap 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1248 Jul 3 00:17 fsck 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2173 Jul 3 00:17 gbde 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2702 Jul 3 00:17 geli 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2800 Jul 3 00:17 hostid 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1780 Jul 3 00:17 initrandom 6 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5130 Jul 3 00:17 mdconfig 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 983 Jul 3 00:17 mountcritlocal 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 747 Jul 3 00:17 root 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 260 Jul 3 00:17 swap1 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3147 Jul 3 00:17 var 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 593 Jul 3 00:17 wpa_supplicant 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1335 Jul 3 00:17 zfs 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2560 Jul 2 14:20 . 4 drwxr-xr-x 20 root wheel 2560 Jul 2 14:20 .. 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 887 Jul 2 14:17 bgfsck 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2298 Jul 2 14:17 bridge 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 313 Jul 2 14:17 bsnmpd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 382 Jul 2 14:17 cron 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 277 Jul 2 14:17 ftp-proxy 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 385 Jul 2 14:17 ftpd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1951 Jul 2 14:17 geli2 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 446 Jul 2 14:17 hostapd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 322 Jul 2 14:17 idmapd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 367 Jul 2 14:17 inetd 16 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15107 Jul 2 14:17 jail 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1147 Jul 2 14:17 localpkg 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2462 Jul 2 14:17 mixer 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1668 Jul 2 14:17 moused 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 283 Jul 2 14:17 msgs 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 350 Jul 2 14:17 othermta 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 528 Jul 2 14:17 securelevel 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2570 Jul 2 14:17 sendmail 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 933 Jul 2 14:17 sysctl 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2299 Jul 2 14:17 sshd 6 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4552 Jul 2 14:17 syscons 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1673 Jul 2 14:17 watchdogd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 745 Jul 2 14:17 ypset 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 755 Jul 2 14:17 ypupdated 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 764 Jul 2 14:17 ypxfrd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 404 Jul 2 14:17 LOGIN 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 977 Jul 2 14:17 motd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 713 Jul 2 14:17 mountlate 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1083 Jul 2 14:17 nscd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1268 Jul 2 14:17 ntpd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 432 Jul 2 14:17 powerd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 346 Jul 2 14:17 rarpd 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2400 Jul 2 14:17 rfcomm_pppd_server 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1684 Jul 2 14:17 rtadvd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 279 Jul 2 14:17 rwho 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 471 Jul 2 14:17 sdpd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 286 Jul 2 14:17 timed 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 682 Jul 2 14:17 ugidfw 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 802 Jul 2 14:17 yppasswdd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 614 Jul 2 14:17 apm 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 784 Jul 2 14:17 apmd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 333 Jul 2 14:17 bootparams 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 656 Jul 2 14:17 bthidd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 460 Jul 2 14:17 hcsecd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 535 Jul 2 14:17 local 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 439 Jul 2 14:17 lpd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 241 Jul 2 14:17 DAEMON 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1610 Jul 2 14:17 virecover 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 979 Jul 2 14:17 amd 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2406 Jul 2 14:17 atm3 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 574 Jul 2 14:17 auditd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1703 Jul 2 14:17 cleartmp 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1237 Jul 2 14:17 dhclient 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 427 Jul 2 14:17 dmesg 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 317 Jul 2 14:17 ipxrouted 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 347 Jul 2 14:17 kadmind 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 313 Jul 2 14:17 kerberos 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 532 Jul 2 14:17 keyserv 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 347 Jul 2 14:17 kpasswdd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 944 Jul 2 14:17 lockd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1035 Jul 2 14:17 mountd 6 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4454 Jul 2 14:17 named 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 955 Jul 2 14:17 nfsclient 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 879 Jul 2 14:17 nfsd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 321 Jul 2 14:17 nfsserver 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1828 Jul 2 14:17 nisdomain 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 642 Jul 2 14:17 ntpdate 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 586 Jul 2 14:17 pppoed 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 453 Jul 2 14:17 pwcheck 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 601 Jul 2 14:17 quota 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 295 Jul 2 14:17 rpcbind 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 942 Jul 2 14:17 statd 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2109 Jul 2 14:17 tmp 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 635 Jul 2 14:17 ypbind 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 720 Jul 2 14:17 ypserv 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 243 Jul 2 14:17 SERVERS 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 981 Jul 2 14:17 abi 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 678 Jul 2 14:17 archdep 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1404 Jul 2 14:17 devfs 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 696 Jul 2 14:17 ipmon 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1799 Jul 2 14:17 ldconfig 6 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6005 Jul 2 14:17 mdconfig2 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 453 Jul 2 14:17 newsyslog 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1091 Jul 2 14:17 savecore 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1473 Jul 2 14:17 syslogd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 339 Jul 2 14:17 NETWORKING 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 952 Jul 2 14:17 accounting 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1329 Jul 2 14:17 cleanvar 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 453 Jul 2 14:17 devd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1036 Jul 2 14:17 ip6fw 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2196 Jul 2 14:17 ipfilter 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1557 Jul 2 14:17 ipfw 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1119 Jul 2 14:17 ipsec 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1535 Jul 2 14:17 mountcritremote 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 273 Jul 2 14:17 mroute6d 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 378 Jul 2 14:17 mrouted 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 768 Jul 2 14:17 natd 6 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4322 Jul 2 14:17 netif 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1360 Jul 2 14:17 netoptions 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3790 Jul 2 14:17 network_ipv6 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2609 Jul 2 14:17 nsswitch 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1282 Jul 2 14:17 pf 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2120 Jul 2 14:17 power_profile 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2280 Jul 2 14:17 ppp 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1982 Jul 2 14:17 resolv 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 606 Jul 2 14:17 route6d 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 500 Jul 2 14:17 routed 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2246 Jul 2 14:17 routing 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2628 Jul 2 14:17 atm2 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1596 Jul 2 14:17 ip6addrctl 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1014 Jul 2 14:17 isdnd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 941 Jul 2 14:17 pflog 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 987 Jul 2 14:17 pfsync 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 536 Jul 2 14:17 addswap 6 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4151 Jul 2 14:17 atm1 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 577 Jul 2 14:17 auto_linklocal 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2630 Jul 2 14:17 hostname 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1038 Jul 2 14:17 ipfs 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 562 Jul 2 14:17 ipnat 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 660 Jul 2 14:17 kldxref 6 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5159 Jul 2 14:17 serial 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 822 Jul 2 14:17 sppp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 15:04:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF37B1065670 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929D68FC1D for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 36C50EBC0A; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:01:59 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: fbsd@dannysplace.net Message-Id: <20090702110159.8a175688.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <4A4CC4F1.6080303@dannysplace.net> References: <4A4CC4F1.6080303@dannysplace.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange startup behaviour. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:04:01 -0000 In response to Danny Carroll : > Since I recently started using freebsd as a adsl gateway I have noticed > some strange things at startup. > > /etc/rc.d/natd does not get executed. If I run it manually it works > fine but not at boot time. > > I just rebooted now and (again) had to re-start natd. Looking at the > startup scipts I see some strange things. The access time on some > scripts is from yesterday. > > I wonder if someone might have an idea on where I'd start to look at > this, or perhaps has seen this behaviour before? The systems is 7.2 P5. Probably good to attach your rc.conf file, as that's the most likely thing that's wrong, given the information you provided. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 15:14:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5E31065670 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365828FC08 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7FFEB5343; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:14:15 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35091450E9; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:14:15 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dMPEGg54PK4S; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:14:15 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl42-7.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.169.7]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B8645088; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:14:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n62FEEXv006612; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:14:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n62FEC09006611; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:14:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jonathan McKeown References: <20090702072125.6a3e513d.freebsd@edvax.de> <200907020907.08159.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:14:12 +0300 In-Reply-To: <200907020907.08159.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> (Jonathan McKeown's message of "Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:07:08 +0200") Message-ID: <871voz15iz.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:14:16 -0000 On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:07:08 +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > I was wondering if there were any other Slackers out there! Of course we are still `out there'. I started using a UNIX-like clone on my 386 SX with Slackware, by fetching the floppy disk images. I've abandoned Linux for serious work for years now, but I still have my Infomagic CD-ROMs :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 15:53:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6191A1065673 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@acatysmoof.com) Received: from gouda.acatysmoof.com (acatysmoof.com [24.205.141.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F1C8FC14 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@acatysmoof.com) Received: from acatysmoof.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gouda.acatysmoof.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n62FXfL1057499 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:33:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@acatysmoof.com) From: "Alex Teslik" To: "List freebsd-questions" Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:33:41 -0700 Message-Id: <20090702143840.M99932@acatysmoof.com> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 20090630 382 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.4.189 (alex) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: intermittent failures with sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:53:05 -0000 I have sendmail 8.14.2 running on freebsd 7.0: [gouda:root]/var/spool/mqueue# sendmail -d0 < /dev/null Version 8.14.2 Compiled with: DNSMAP LOG MAP_REGEX MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6 NETUNIX NEWDB NIS PIPELINING SASLv2 SCANF STARTTLS TCPWRAPPERS USERDB XDEBUG ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ (short domain name) $w = gouda (canonical domain name) $j = gouda.acatysmoof.com (subdomain name) $m = acatysmoof.com (node name) $k = gouda.acatysmoof.com ======================================================== [gouda:root]/var/spool/mqueue# uname -a FreeBSD gouda.acatysmoof.com 7.0-STABLE-200806 FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE-200806 #0: Mon Jun 30 03:43:40 PDT 2008 alex@XXXXXXX.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CORE2-STABLE-7 i386 mails sent out to the internet are intermittently causing these error reports in the daily run output: n5UNkYTo069809 23878 Tue Jun 30 16:46 (reply: read error from mail.OOOOOO.net.) n5ULKB0i064252* 7028205 Tue Jun 30 14:20 8BITMIME (timeout writing message to c.mx.mail.yahoo.com.: Broken pipe) n5TM36Jn012370 420 Mon Jun 29 15:03 The yahoo one is particularly puzzling. Most mails make it, but some fail. I can't figure out why. The recipient is valid and they have plenty of space in their account. Sometimes mail to them works with no problem. I checked the sendmail logs and found: Jul 2 03:35:16 gouda sm-mta[40342]: n5ULKB0i064252: SYSERR(root): timeout writing message to b.mx.mail.yahoo.com.: Broken pipe Jul 2 04:23:01 gouda sm-mta[47860]: n5ULKB0i064252: SYSERR(root): timeout writing message to e.mx.mail.yahoo.com.: Broken pipe Jul 2 07:03:05 gouda sm-mta[53788]: n5ULKB0i064252: SYSERR(root): timeout writing message to d.mx.mail.yahoo.com.: Broken pipe I thought it might be an MTU problem: http://anthony.zerosandones.co.uk/?q=node/451 I set my MTU to 1300, but that hasn't helped. [gouda:root]/home/alex/acatysmoof.com/services# ifconfig -a em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1300 options=19b ether 00:1c:c0:36:85:62 inet 24.205.141.134 netmask 0xfffffffc broadcast 24.205.141.135 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active DNS is working fine everywhere, so I don't think thats it. PTR is fine, reverse lookups work fine. I've googled my brains out. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 16:12:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD85106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:12:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkp@mtmary.edu) Received: from fear.mtmary.edu (fear.mtmary.edu [74.62.87.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A018FC15 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:12:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkp@mtmary.edu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (war.mtmary.edu [172.16.0.200]) by fear.mtmary.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68F956327A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:20:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4A4CD041.5020006@mtmary.edu> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:20:33 -0500 From: Peter Clark User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Dependency confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:12:32 -0000 Hello, I have a number of ports installed on my 7.2Release box. When I issue pkg_info I see that I have both db41-4.1.25_4 and db46-4.6.21.4 installed. Is there an easy way to see which program is linked to which db? Is this some sort of redundant listing and I really only have db4.6 installed or can you have both side by side? My real concern is about which db backend my cyrus-imap-23 is linked against. Thank you, Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 16:48:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9089106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:48:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17698FC17 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:48:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n62GmBas067800 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:48:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n62GmB9l049196 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:48:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n62Gm9qx049193; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:48:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:48:09 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Peter Clark Message-ID: <20090702164809.GB4205@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4A4CD041.5020006@mtmary.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A4CD041.5020006@mtmary.edu> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:48:11 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dependency confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:48:13 -0000 In the last episode (Jul 02), Peter Clark said: > I have a number of ports installed on my 7.2Release box. When I issue > pkg_info I see that I have both db41-4.1.25_4 and db46-4.6.21.4 installed. > Is there an easy way to see which program is linked to which db? Is this > some sort of redundant listing and I really only have db4.6 installed or > can you have both side by side? My real concern is about which db backend > my cyrus-imap-23 is linked against. All the db* ports install files with the version number embedded in them, so you can have multiple versions installed without conflicts. "ldd /path/to/exe" will tell you which library a given binary is linked with, and you can run "pkg_info -R 'db4*'" to determine which ports depend on which versions of db. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 16:48:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A15E106566C for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BAD8FC25 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 229C7EBC3F; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:47:10 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Peter Clark Message-Id: <20090702124710.73d971d0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <4A4CD041.5020006@mtmary.edu> References: <4A4CD041.5020006@mtmary.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dependency confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:48:40 -0000 In response to Peter Clark : > > I have a number of ports installed on my 7.2Release box. When I issue > pkg_info I see that I have both db41-4.1.25_4 and db46-4.6.21.4 > installed. Is there an easy way to see which program is linked to which > db? Is this some sort of redundant listing and I really only have db4.6 > installed or can you have both side by side? My real concern is about > which db backend my cyrus-imap-23 is linked against. You can use ldd on the binary to see which libraries it's linked against. Also, if you pkg_delete each of the packages, it will refuse to delete them if they're still used by other packages, and it will tell you which packages are using them. (You can probably do that second one with pkg_info as well, but I don't know the syntax off the top of my head) -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 17:10:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E749B1065673 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7A98FC12 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1504597fxm.43 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:10:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=IXNrS2DxdCf5hkNbQDacCFvVGUIEf0ogqX+mGu8Ds0g=; b=bLRbr0uZo90FEMj3P2YhMIn3lAthLKTC9dLUQc9vpBS5498RhAPROsVk6Hi9r1OEGs xn83WFEJeZaLG9r6osoDebJMND4AsI4HOUwIKGIBPbbCZQJr1koI27v1FHBtYBr0frcs xbg3o5t+K5oENliRqq7qlRgezPyoK6eGIPbzo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SPuqDBepMKotyeRYLiYjGH/bP5thFSg3Va80v+Cs6h6NARvc6xtcBnp3tUta2POWBo jw94V6svF1YmWH2dYhBIi/vtK7ho4dWkEWxoWJT2NkCNJkLx3eTZhY29kVlN2ghlqn08 vOeeICQTE8R9ES+dkITMHY7E+3Vy4SEWznmI0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.119.198 with SMTP id a6mr261064far.42.1246553345923; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:49:05 +0300 Message-ID: From: pepe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: replacing harddisks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:10:05 -0000 I have gmirror of two 200GB disks where I have whole /usr f my freebsd 7.2 system. root, /var and /boot are on other disk, but I need to replace those both disks with bigger ones now. To get bigger /usr. So what I'm wondering now is if there is way to take one disk out of mirror (geom) and add bigger. So it would be one 200g and one 640g. And after sync replace other 200g with 640g so there would be two 640g disks. What I don't know is if mirror would still be original 200g or can I get it working full 640g this way? Or do I need to do it some harder way? Like adding both disks, creating mirror of them, copy original mirror with dd to new one and then removing old disks? -- pepe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 17:54:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B9D106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A1B8FC08 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atomic.dyndns.org (athedsl-4493768.home.otenet.gr [94.71.93.208]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n62Hs6H3027946; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:54:06 +0300 Message-ID: <4A4CF43E.1080706@otenet.gr> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:54:06 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090414) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pepe References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: replacing harddisks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:54:10 -0000 pepe wrote: > I have gmirror of two 200GB disks where I have whole /usr f my freebsd 7.2 > system. root, /var and /boot are on other disk, but I need to replace those > both disks with bigger ones now. To get bigger /usr. So what I'm wondering > now is if there is way to take one disk out of mirror (geom) and add bigger. > So it would be one 200g and one 640g. If you add the 640G in the 200G mirror, it will be used as a 200G. > And after sync replace other 200g with > 640g so there would be two 640g disks. What I don't know is if mirror would > still be original 200g or can I get it working full 640g this way? Or do I > need to do it some harder way? Like adding both disks, creating mirror of > them, copy original mirror with dd to new one and then removing old disks? > > There are probably a couple of way to achieve this, but I would add the new disk as a standalone one, copy (rather dump) contents from the array to it, disconnect the older array, create a gmirror on the new disk, and finally connect the second new disk and resync. You don't need to add both new disks at the same time (you may not even have enough sata connectors) and you don't even have to leave both of the original mirror disks connected while copying the data. It will still work the same if the original array is degraded. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 18:06:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4070F106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:06:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkp@mtmary.edu) Received: from fear.mtmary.edu (fear.mtmary.edu [74.62.87.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DAF8FC12 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:06:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkp@mtmary.edu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (war.mtmary.edu [172.16.0.200]) by fear.mtmary.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769545869E9; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:06:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4A4CF71D.5050407@mtmary.edu> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:06:21 -0500 From: Peter Clark User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson References: <4A4CD041.5020006@mtmary.edu> <20090702164809.GB4205@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20090702164809.GB4205@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dependency confusion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:06:24 -0000 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Jul 02), Peter Clark said: >> I have a number of ports installed on my 7.2Release box. When I issue >> pkg_info I see that I have both db41-4.1.25_4 and db46-4.6.21.4 installed. >> Is there an easy way to see which program is linked to which db? Is this >> some sort of redundant listing and I really only have db4.6 installed or >> can you have both side by side? My real concern is about which db backend >> my cyrus-imap-23 is linked against. > > All the db* ports install files with the version number embedded in them, so > you can have multiple versions installed without conflicts. "ldd > /path/to/exe" will tell you which library a given binary is linked with, and > you can run "pkg_info -R 'db4*'" to determine which ports depend on which > versions of db. > Thanks Dan and Bill. Dan, ldd and pkg_info -R did the trick. I really appreciate it. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 18:18:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239B1106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@mi.celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10A18FC08 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5345A205B3BB for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:49:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id H3ReWg5rpYau for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF1B205B3AF for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6AE68BC8B83; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:49:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id seSkTgDWkJOY; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id C340D68BC8B82; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:49:00 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090702174900.GA22034@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9cbf3f070907020247i5a6fefeco736034bd84d0ee67@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9cbf3f070907020247i5a6fefeco736034bd84d0ee67@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/% (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:18:02 -0000 On Thu, Jul 02, 2009, Artifex Maximus wrote: >Hello! > >On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Daniel Underwood > wrote: > >> QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you >> prefer? and why? > >I used to like Slackware but moved to Ubuntu two or three years before. I >liked Slackware simplicity but its package system was too simple and then I >moved to FreeBSD. Some years before I had found Ubuntu and stayed there for >Linux boxes. Some people prefer Debian over Ubuntu but I dislike Debian >approach on packages (namely patch the older version as long as you can >instead of switch to a newer one). We currently use CentOS for servers and Macs for desktops. Over the years we have gone from Caldera->SuSE->CentOS, and I am most comfortable in an RPM environment having used it since 1995 or so. All our server software is built under the OpenPKG portable packaging system whether the system is FreeBSD, Linux, OS X, OpenSolaris, or even SCO OpenServer 5.0.6. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. 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Mencken From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 18:19:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069831065785 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582E28FC1C for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nullpt@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1542740fxm.43 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:19:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2w7FD1pqoq+gPKre6Lo/wiD8QFAgunNZS79oLMD48fw=; b=JQQnFEG0hlHswpIRP/mu6YHxFTYVVj13Qik4uu4k6EJweH1X6GJjnu6heAYooAFXIW NVdEvP/GfZetp65ycjHt3yA+VdAY9n3GQqbUehiz8ozxKGXgF5bWua+gsh5X5Zfd2l9Y VZczwA/tEQ7p8lECKt5zUcxPjlTC/NPytDpQM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OfDFxbiAOFEUA3k1ZU+u6/yOGXwBOPjjtpxTOPS+uetGh97GQkuCi00p1Uh0ALnaFS oRofFDp0zs24AtD2+ph6l+rLs8dc0gCLC4JWX1kwTGpXwMw1kbSPrnfgTJPkkn60s6Zy bXJ0WSVD2j4kPdX/4mnVPItCghCrq+pwVvsKI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.19 with SMTP id z19mr352462fao.27.1246558753063; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:19:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87k52saz86.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <755cb9fc0907011040o28b82cdbjd5760b139f797050@mail.gmail.com> <87tz1wqkmu.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87k52saz86.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:19:13 +0100 Message-ID: <755cb9fc0907021119n26dee870t83ca3d1c9c5c3c90@mail.gmail.com> From: Alexandre Vieira To: Giorgos Keramidas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scripting tip needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:19:15 -0000 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:02:48 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar < > wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > >> Using an interactive language like Python you can actually *test* the > >> code as you are writing it. This is a major win most of the time. > > > > could you explain what you mean? You can and you have to test a code on > > any language be it bash, ksh python or C > > Yes. I mean that one can directly interact with the interpret in a REPL > prompt, doing stuff like: > > >>> import re > >>> devre = re.compile(r'(/dev/\S+)\s+(\S+)\s.*$') > >>> devre > <_sre.SRE_Pattern object at 0x28462780> > >>> devre.match('/dev/ad0s1d 1012974 390512 541426 42% /var') > <_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x28432e78> > >>> devre.match('/dev/ad0s1d 1012974 390512 541426 42% /var').groups() > ('/dev/ad0s1d', '1012974') > >>> devre = > >>> re.compile(r'(/dev/\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+).*$') > >>> devre.match('/dev/ad0s1d 1012974 390512 541426 42% /var').groups() > ('/dev/ad0s1d', '1012974', '390512', '541426', '42%', '/var') > > See how I am 'refining' the initial regular expression without ever > leaving the Python prompt? That sort of interactivity is entirely lost > when you have to edit a file, save it, switch screen(1) windows or type > ^Z to background the editor, run a script, watch it fail and repeat. > > Then I can keep testing bits and pieces of code: > > >>> from subprocess import Popen, PIPE > >>> pipe = Popen(['df', '-k'], shell=False, stdout=PIPE).stdout > >>> for l in pipe: > ... m = devre.match(l) > ... if m: > ... print "device %s, size %ld KB" % (m.group(1), > long(m.group(2))) > ... > device /dev/ad0s1a, size 1012974 KB > device /dev/ad0s1d, size 1012974 KB > device /dev/ad0s1e, size 2026030 KB > device /dev/ad0s1f, size 10154158 KB > device /dev/ad0s1g, size 284455590 KB > device /dev/md0, size 19566 KB > >>> > > So piping df output to a Python bit of code works! That's nice. Then > once I have a 'rough idea' of how I want the script to work, I can > refactor a bit the repetitive bits: > > >>> def devsize(line): > ... m = devre.match(line) > ... if m: > ... return (m.group(1), m.group(2)) > ... > >>> devsize('/dev/ad0s1d 1012974 390512 541426 42% /var') > ('/dev/ad0s1d', '1012974') > > So here's a short function to return a nice 2-item tuple with two values > (device name, number of 1 KB blocks). Can we pipe df output through it? > > >>> pipe = Popen(['df', '-k'], shell=False, stdout=PIPE).stdout > >>> pipe = Popen(['df', '-k'], shell=False, stdout=PIPE).stdout > >>> map(devsize, pipe.readlines()) > [ None, ('/dev/ad0s1a', '1012974'), None, ('/dev/ad0s1d', '1012974'), > ('/dev/ad0s1e', '2026030'), ('/dev/ad0s1f', '10154158'), > ('/dev/ad0s1g', '284455590'), None, None, None, None, None, None, > None, None, None, None, None, None, None, None, > ('/dev/md0', '19566'), None] > >>> > > It looks we can do that too, but the tuple list may be more useful if we > trim the null items in the process: > > >>> pipe = Popen(['df', '-k'], shell=False, stdout=PIPE).stdout > >>> [t for t in map(devsize, pipe.readlines()) if t] > [ ('/dev/ad0s1a', '1012974'), ('/dev/ad0s1d', '1012974'), > ('/dev/ad0s1e', '2026030'), ('/dev/ad0s1f', '10154158'), > ('/dev/ad0s1g', '284455590'), ('/dev/md0', '19566') ] > > So there it is. A nice structure, supported by the core of the > language, using a readable, easy syntax, and listing all the /dev nodes > of my laptop along with their sizes in KBytes. > > The entire thing was built 'piece by piece', in the same Python session, > and I now have not only a 'rough idea' of how the code should work, but > also a working copy of the code in my history. > > Note the complete *lack* of care about how to append to a list, how to > create dynamic pairs of devicename-size tuples, how to map all elements > of a list through a function, and more importantly the complete and > utter lack of any sort of '"${[]}"' quoting for variable names, values, > nested expansions, and so on. > > That's what I am talking about. Shell scripts are nice, but if we are > not constrained for some reason to use only /bin/sh or ksh, there's no > excuse for wasting hours upon hours to decipher cryptic quoting rules > and exceptional edge-cases of "black quoting magic", just to get a short > job done. Being able to _easily_ use higher level structures than a > plain 'stream of bytes' is nice :) > > > Guys, I eventually found it with lots of rtfm on variable substitution and such.. [ne@dada~]$ z=0 [ne@dada~]$ y=1 [ne@dada~]$ x=aaa [ne@dada~]$ eval `echo MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]`=$x [ne@dada~]$ echo $(eval echo \${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]}) aaa [ne@dada~]$ Thanks anyway! -- Alexandre Vieira - nullpt@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 18:51:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F4E1065673 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:51:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@webmail.maxiscale.com) Received: from k2smtpout04-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (k2smtpout04-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.189.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D59678FC14 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:51:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@webmail.maxiscale.com) Received: (qmail 6893 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2009 18:51:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO owa.webmail.maxiscale.com) (72.167.52.135) by k2smtpout04-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.189.166) with ESMTP; 02 Jul 2009 18:51:14 -0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:51:13 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: JDK6 for FreeBSD-64? Thread-Index: Acn7RhKb5QibQsN1QQSPv5Zoz15CUA== From: "Peter Steele" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: JDK6 for FreeBSD-64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:51:16 -0000 Is there an alternative to Diablo JDK for FreeBSD-64? We've been using this port for a while and it works fine, but some of the tools available in Java distributions for other platforms are not fully implemented in the Diablo port. We're particularly interested in the memory profiling tool jmap. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 18:52:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFAF10656E0 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F9E8FC14 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:52:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so2705005yxe.3 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:52:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gMFxCLHP+1nQ8BJt/7arvLqyRSJnL7NJ38M+bYP+o8I=; b=Qy/7KU4SXInldWNMg+KVVjwB12YRcQLJG4dKLMWS3PloJ+77VH5iRP77LE3aMr8ays 8gSuHZ8HjTwzazg5wHGtap1nz7HfRs1g5I/Lms8bd2blSBuo7sSDMwc1siVG+2j7keMg +X7EEASFW0zL3keiIqZLyd6+17aDpgdw+xHgE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VNzpuE3v1R/Z/NEtQ1HoZ7LK3QJrX9Zo/kAPl+1lGDO5V1qX4eCEtnJwisiSp/JxYp XWPJvJS+Gd+6z7rK2o+REGggiSMrR4FvPjspMFpQIwip2EeUY9GG6LfCdBIUpQG/ZNm8 +eEj696G9SgTaNi2Exo/+i/zgkzQGoX/4ncEI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.32.11 with SMTP id a11mr679407ibd.38.1246560765018; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:52:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3a142e750907020304tcb3296fy574dfc4b0fd7d875@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d5d3ca90907011048t1a096865iceaa3b82c1af82f4@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907011055r3750fd54rb66612a4b110e090@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907011120h35b5e665gee30466ce72097e7@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907011526ka68c664s3606fdc9b4ad2889@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907011845g26124a59y9643ef4623610f6@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907020304tcb3296fy574dfc4b0fd7d875@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:52:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3d5d3ca90907021152t65160614ne9d3c6b4ce81f671@mail.gmail.com> From: Robert Hall To: "Paul B. Mahol" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:52:47 -0000 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: > On 7/2/09, Robert Hall wrote: >>> And what about TX/RX signal? >> >> I don't know where to look for that. :) > > It is part of scan output. I don't remember seeing that in the output. I'll put the Linksys back in the FBSD box and look for it. Does it have another name? I can't find it on the ifconfig man page. On the XP box, the Linksys utility says that the transmit rate is 12 Mbps and the receive rate is 5.5 Mbps. When I move the Linksys NIC to the FBSD box, I get: $ ifconfig ral0 list scan SSID BSSID CHAN RATE S:N INT CAPS livingroom 00:13:10:b9:e7:d6 6 54M -93:-95 100 E I think the "54M" is what you're asking for? I looked in man ifconfig and couldn't find TX or RX so I'm guessing that you're asking about the rate at which data is passed. Thanks for your help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 19:00:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25B7106567D for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431CE8FC08 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3364C2842C; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:00:00 +1200 (NZST) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:00:00 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Peter Steele Message-ID: <20090702190000.GA72717@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: JDK6 for FreeBSD-64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:00:04 -0000 On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 11:51:13AM -0700, Peter Steele wrote: > Is there an alternative to Diablo JDK for FreeBSD-64? We've been using > this port for a while and it works fine, but some of the tools available > in Java distributions for other platforms are not fully implemented in > the Diablo port. We're particularly interested in the memory profiling > tool jmap. There's java/jdk16 and the java/openjdk6 ports. However, I don't know whether they support jmap or not. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Lots of folks confuse bad management with destiny" - Kin Hubbard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 19:25:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82234106568C for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:25:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout022.mac.com (asmtpout022.mac.com [17.148.16.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DE18FC08 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:25:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp022.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KM6001C95Y85J30@asmtp022.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Alex Teslik In-reply-to: <20090702143840.M99932@acatysmoof.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:25:20 -0700 References: <20090702143840.M99932@acatysmoof.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: List freebsd-questions Subject: Re: intermittent failures with sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:25:34 -0000 Hi-- On Jul 2, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Alex Teslik wrote: > Jul 2 03:35:16 gouda sm-mta[40342]: n5ULKB0i064252: SYSERR(root): > timeout writing message to > b.mx.mail.yahoo.com.: Broken pipe > Jul 2 04:23:01 gouda sm-mta[47860]: n5ULKB0i064252: SYSERR(root): > timeout writing message to > e.mx.mail.yahoo.com.: Broken pipe > Jul 2 07:03:05 gouda sm-mta[53788]: n5ULKB0i064252: SYSERR(root): > timeout writing message to > d.mx.mail.yahoo.com.: Broken pipe > > I thought it might be an MTU problem: > > http://anthony.zerosandones.co.uk/?q=node/451 > > I set my MTU to 1300, but that hasn't helped. > > [gouda:root]/home/alex/acatysmoof.com/services# ifconfig -a > em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > 1300 > options=19b > ether 00:1c:c0:36:85:62 > inet 24.205.141.134 netmask 0xfffffffc broadcast 24.205.141.135 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > > DNS is working fine everywhere, so I don't think thats it. PTR is > fine, reverse lookups work fine. > > I've googled my brains out. Does anyone have any ideas? Intermittent network connectivity problems could be a firewall problem or an actual physical connectivity issue. Presumably your ISP can run a line quality test or something for your DSL/cable/T1/whatever link. tcpdump might give some insight, also.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 19:37:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034561065670 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:37:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [207.112.4.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F00B8FC20 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MMS5c-000Km3-OH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:37:00 -0400 Message-ID: <88A2C55F2383454997EBC477921FC913@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:36:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Transferring dump files ASCII or BINARY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:37:03 -0000 Hi all, I am attempting to restore a root filesystem I donwloaded this morning. I downloaded it in binary mode, and when I try to=20 restore -rf /usbstick/root.dump I am getting: "Tape is not a dump tape" Should dumps be transfered in BINARY or ASCII mode? Any other insights welcome. Also, should I remove the .snap file in the pristine filesystem before = performing the restore? Also, The dump was done on a freebsd 7.2 R machine, and I am using the = FreeBSD 7.2 live filesystem CD to do the restores. -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 20:14:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9283C106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:14:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com (mail-bw0-f216.google.com [209.85.218.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01AA48FC13 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1592971bwz.43 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:14:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UHcmIXzePzVWrPKjpY9z3KrdX3HszeW1jWKA2mzyTN8=; b=ALy3/qVeEe2cMvIbI8Ecq45yoiSjFb6h68JHJseZDNW6JpD7LEykWSpsNtxSrucze7 0MsuDh0hd9ffxa8IXBo88x6/XhKKqJwkdIpDG2PcaEXqEsWMR+lAkqNVgMVsLeUAKjeZ N2VVliO6/zl3ED1+7dVdMy/oU3j1A61ham/TY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=APnb12ejNwB2dByLFZynMo5U95ZFwgLmDIdMvMB77uS32tojuhRar6VNfp8aWXFOYC g3QpgF83JUOkJZJ5aiKtq4yJtUPHDccI7SKRUVBxATFFfmwnW7rlS1RfS7ROVdYyGDqo fk1wkkuBr2eM0PaMh/2tiOkBigmU31SmkoVH0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.66.2 with SMTP id l2mr380444bki.177.1246565682005; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:14:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3d5d3ca90907021152t65160614ne9d3c6b4ce81f671@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d5d3ca90907011048t1a096865iceaa3b82c1af82f4@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907011055r3750fd54rb66612a4b110e090@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907011120h35b5e665gee30466ce72097e7@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907011526ka68c664s3606fdc9b4ad2889@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907011845g26124a59y9643ef4623610f6@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907020304tcb3296fy574dfc4b0fd7d875@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907021152t65160614ne9d3c6b4ce81f671@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:14:41 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750907021314j7dc4dcedv88d8ea83ffd94d5c@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Robert Hall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:14:43 -0000 On 7/2/09, Robert Hall wrote: > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: >> On 7/2/09, Robert Hall wrote: >>>> And what about TX/RX signal? >>> >>> I don't know where to look for that. :) >> >> It is part of scan output. > > I don't remember seeing that in the output. I'll put the Linksys back > in the FBSD box and look for it. Does it have another name? I can't > find it on the ifconfig man page. > > On the XP box, the Linksys utility says that the transmit rate is 12 > Mbps and the receive rate is 5.5 Mbps. > > When I move the Linksys NIC to the FBSD box, I get: > $ ifconfig ral0 list scan > SSID BSSID CHAN RATE S:N INT CAPS > livingroom 00:13:10:b9:e7:d6 6 54M -93:-95 100 E 93 is too low. > > I think the "54M" is what you're asking for? I looked in man ifconfig > and couldn't find TX or RX so I'm guessing that you're asking about > the rate at which data is passed. > > Thanks for your help. > -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 21:32:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F461065673 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@webmail.maxiscale.com) Received: from k2smtpout02-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (k2smtpout02-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.189.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D27E8FC13 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:32:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@webmail.maxiscale.com) Received: (qmail 418 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2009 21:32:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO owa.webmail.maxiscale.com) (72.167.52.135) by k2smtpout02-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.189.90) with ESMTP; 02 Jul 2009 21:32:55 -0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:32:54 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: JDK6 for FreeBSD-64? Thread-Index: Acn7R81OXRm/p9TIRUaa4JHGzwCdWgAFKGeg References: <20090702190000.GA72717@osiris.chen.org.nz> From: "Peter Steele" To: Subject: RE: JDK6 for FreeBSD-64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:32:58 -0000 >There's java/jdk16 and the java/openjdk6 ports. However, I don't know >whether they support jmap or not. The jmap tool in java/jdk16 doesn't appear to be complete either. Has anyone successfully built openjdk6 for FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 21:42:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A7F106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819108FC15 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so828815qwd.7 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:42:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tuGDV2ffGKsNPFl4gMVTPvwUR07U6lb1VKTgCoQ2Ki8=; b=lzFm9p8MjDQDzXbQmwq8WL8Nb58HqDQLYEbJVW7i2H7izTtA/glCG9JL0xdl4z81TV q8KdkR2F6EXq/tpaoUR/bbdgReDLL+iEM4+pYlP0AmEADcu7Tq1xcD2vYvvr6ljyIpAn 2ecmE6SawtPipKakry70uSkjEq4w84dSUUeBE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lKXnjfy0yJAFvaFk23bTU4UAyTlUwZ1tVzZvbhokJbkmjwbPemt469pr8sgtLOFgj2 hH1XcPZMDUKE8POKi70SLhP1npiZdG3edG8dwX4dVPWZJ/yRuI3HoGcro7QuaA1EFhtv +OEm9CM6JAFZQbIMDZev/G7dgSBdzo0LJMGMI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.100.77 with SMTP id x13mr723867qcn.105.1246570965649; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:42:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20080907213620.02a7143d@ayiin> References: <11167f520809061827n431ca05m22878d51ccec8f3d@mail.gmail.com> <20080907213620.02a7143d@ayiin> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:42:45 -0500 Message-ID: <11167f520907021442r735cfb01q141840dbc41333fc@mail.gmail.com> From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: Norberto Meijome Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Grid computing under FreeBSD using jails ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:42:47 -0000 On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 20:27:10 -0500 > "Sam Fourman Jr." wrote: > >> I am also interested in using FreeBSD as the host in some grid/cloud solution >> I am open to any Ideas anyone has. > > Hey Sam, > do you have any particular grid/cloud/clustering solution in mind? I think > that Sun's grid engine works in FBSD (it is present in ports)... > > /usr/ports > $ make search info=grid\ engine > > There was a similar,but short discussion in this list around August 11th 2008, > Subject 'cluster filesystem', mentioning things like hadoop + gluster on BSD. I know this thread has been dormant for quite some time, but I want to see if anyone has any ideas how how we could do cloud hosting using FreeBSD as the host system. A better way to put it is a FreeBSD Based Amazon EC2. basically a bunch of FreeBSD servers, that are in a cluster, and could host a bunch of Xen Domu's . I am aware that FreeBSD does not yet have Xen dom0 support. but are there any other competing projects to xen that I am unaware of. Sam Fourman Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 22:54:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46B8106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@dannysplace.net) Received: from mail.dannysplace.net (mail.dannysplace.net [80.69.71.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536D48FC12 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@dannysplace.net) Received: from 60-242-243-193.static.tpgi.com.au ([60.242.243.193] helo=[192.168.10.10]) by mail.dannysplace.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MMVB2-000MJu-JM; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:54:51 +1000 Message-ID: <4A4D3ADA.50601@dannysplace.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:55:22 +1000 From: Danny Carroll User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <4A4CC4F1.6080303@dannysplace.net> <20090702110159.8a175688.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20090702110159.8a175688.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: danny X-Authenticator: plain X-Sender-Verify: SUCCEEDED (sender exists & accepts mail) X-Exim-Version: 4.69 (build at 08-Jul-2008 08:59:40) X-Date: 2009-07-03 08:54:49 X-Connected-IP: 60.242.243.193:18157 X-Message-Linecount: 112 X-Body-Linecount: 98 X-Message-Size: 3244 X-Body-Size: 2661 X-Received-Count: 1 X-Recipient-Count: 2 X-Local-Recipient-Count: 2 X-Local-Recipient-Defer-Count: 0 X-Local-Recipient-Fail-Count: 0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 60.242.243.193 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: wmoran@potentialtech.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: fbsd@dannysplace.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ferrari.dannysplace.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail.dannysplace.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange startup behaviour. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd@dannysplace.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:54:52 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: > Probably good to attach your rc.conf file, as that's the most likely thing > that's wrong, given the information you provided. > That would surprise me. The thing that looked strange to me was that there was a heap of files in /etc/rc.d/ that look like they had not been accessed since the last shutdown of the machine. Here is my rc.conf named_enable="YES" gateway_enable="YES" hostname="nas.lan" keymap="us.iso" sshd_enable="YES" zfs_enable="YES" openntpd_enable="YES" natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="tun0" natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf" apache2_enable="YES" apache2_profiles="default backuppc" apache2_default_configfile="/usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd.conf" apache2_backuppc_configfile="/usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd-backuppc.conf" inetd_enable="YES" nmbd_enable="YES" smbd_enable="YES" winbindd_enable="NO" backuppc_enable="YES" rpcbind_enable="YES" nfs_server_enable="YES" mountd_enable="YES" mountd_flags="-n -r" nut_enable="YES" nut_upslog_enable="YES" nut_upsmon_enable="YES" firewall_enable="YES" firewall_logging="YES" firewall_type="custom" firewall_script="/etc/firewall.rules" racoon_enable="NO" pf_enable="NO" # Enable PF (load module if required) pf_rules="/etc/pf.conf" # rules definition file for pf pf_flags="" # additional flags for pfctl startup pflog_enable="NO" # start pflogd(8) pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog" # where pflogd should store the logfile pflog_flags="" # additional flags for pflogd startup ppp_enable="YES" ppp_mode="ddial" ppp_nat="NO" #For Office subnet ifconfig_fxp0="inet 172.21.5.118 netmask 255.255.255.248" #Lan subnet ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.10.21 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 1000baseTX mediaopt full-duplex" #Media subnet ifconfig_em1="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex" # Wireless lan subnet ifconfig_ath0="inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid WIFI wepmode on weptxkey 1 wepkey 1:0xSomeKeyThatIsPrivate channel 4 mode 11g mediaopt hostap" # For the internet PPP0E link ifconfig_fxp1="inet 10.0.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex" syslogd_flags="-a 172.21.5.0/24:* -a 192.168.10.0/24:*" smartd_enable="YES" doorman_enable="YES" pureftpd_enable="YES" dhcpd_enable="YES" # dhcpd enabled? dhcpd_flags="-q" # command option(s) dhcpd_conf="/usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf" # configuration file dhcpd_ifaces="ath0 em0 em1" # ethernet interface(s) dhcpd_withumask="022" # file creation mask mysql_enable="YES" asterisk_enable="YES" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 23:04:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CEE106564A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:04:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006478FC08 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::2]) by wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n62N53vu015999; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 01:05:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n62Mp6QY003869; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:51:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n62Mp5oX003866; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:51:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:51:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Grant Peel In-Reply-To: <88A2C55F2383454997EBC477921FC913@GRANT> Message-ID: References: <88A2C55F2383454997EBC477921FC913@GRANT> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Transferring dump files ASCII or BINARY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:04:51 -0000 > I downloaded it in binary mode, and when I try t that's right. > restore -rf /usbstick/root.dump > > I am getting: > > "Tape is not a dump tape" > > Should dumps be transfered in BINARY or ASCII mode? binary. > > Any other insights welcome. there is other problem somewhere else. > > Also, should I remove the .snap file in the pristine filesystem before performing the restore? no need. > > Also, The dump was done on a freebsd 7.2 R machine, and I am using the FreeBSD 7.2 live filesystem CD to do the restores. ALL fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 2 23:06:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2299106568B for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D768FC08 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::2]) by wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n62N796e016027; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 01:07:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n62MrCTC003896; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:53:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n62MrCdN003893; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:53:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:53:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: pepe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: replacing harddisks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:06:55 -0000 > I have gmirror of two 200GB disks where I have whole /usr f my freebsd 7.2 > system. root, /var and /boot are on other disk, but I need to replace those > both disks with bigger ones now. To get bigger /usr. So what I'm wondering > now is if there is way to take one disk out of mirror (geom) and add bigger. yes. man gmirror gmirror remove , gmirror forget. > So it would be one 200g and one 640g. And after sync replace other 200g with yes. make new (single disk at first) gmirror on new drive, copy data and make it bootable, shutdown, replace other 200G drive, boot from 640G and do gmirror insert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 00:29:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB551065670 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@dannysplace.net) Received: from mail.dannysplace.net (mail.dannysplace.net [80.69.71.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040B88FC15 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:29:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@dannysplace.net) Received: from 60-242-243-193.static.tpgi.com.au ([60.242.243.193] helo=[192.168.10.10]) by mail.dannysplace.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MMWBq-000MWX-Vb; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:59:44 +1000 Message-ID: <4A4D4A15.5020006@dannysplace.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:00:21 +1000 From: Danny Carroll User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fbsd@dannysplace.net References: <4A4CC4F1.6080303@dannysplace.net> <20090702110159.8a175688.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4A4D3ADA.50601@dannysplace.net> In-Reply-To: <4A4D3ADA.50601@dannysplace.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: danny X-Authenticator: plain X-Sender-Verify: SUCCEEDED (sender exists & accepts mail) X-Exim-Version: 4.69 (build at 08-Jul-2008 08:59:40) X-Date: 2009-07-03 09:59:43 X-Connected-IP: 60.242.243.193:18614 X-Message-Linecount: 37 X-Body-Linecount: 23 X-Message-Size: 1618 X-Body-Size: 999 X-Received-Count: 1 X-Recipient-Count: 3 X-Local-Recipient-Count: 3 X-Local-Recipient-Defer-Count: 0 X-Local-Recipient-Fail-Count: 0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 60.242.243.193 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: fbsd@dannysplace.net, wmoran@potentialtech.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: danny@dannysplace.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ferrari.dannysplace.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail.dannysplace.net) Cc: Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange startup behaviour. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:29:39 -0000 Danny Carroll wrote: > That would surprise me. The thing that looked strange to me was that > there was a heap of files in /etc/rc.d/ that look like they had not been > accessed since the last shutdown of the machine. I think I figured out this behaviour. I believe that the access times are different because at boot time adjkerntz runs and sets the correct time (or rather zone) during boot. The times are 10 hours apart which is the difference between UTC and my time zone. It was a strange co-incidence that I rebooted my machine yesterday twice, the second time was almost 10 hours after the first which is why I was confused. Perhaps if the clock was set to UTC then this would not happen. It still does not explain why /etc/rc.d/natd does not start natd at boot. I also tried copying /etc/rc.d/natd to /usr/local/etc/rc.d in the thought that this was a chicken/egg problem and /usr/local/etc/rc.d scripts might run late enough to work. But I still need to restart natd manually. -D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 01:36:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178531065670 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 01:36:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AEF8FC1D for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 01:36:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EB5382842B; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:36:48 +1200 (NZST) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:36:48 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Peter Steele Message-ID: <20090703013648.GB80860@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20090702190000.GA72717@osiris.chen.org.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: JDK6 for FreeBSD-64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:36:52 -0000 On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 02:32:54PM -0700, Peter Steele wrote: > >There's java/jdk16 and the java/openjdk6 ports. However, I don't know > >whether they support jmap or not. > > The jmap tool in java/jdk16 doesn't appear to be complete either. Has > anyone successfully built openjdk6 for FreeBSD? Yes. However the GUI support under openjdk6 is iffy. % java -version openjdk version "1.6.0-internal" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-internal-root_24_may_2009_16_24-b00) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.0-b17, mixed mode) Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Only the meek get pinched. The bold survive." - Ferris Bueller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 05:25:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553C2106564A for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 05:25:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arek@wup-katowice.pl) Received: from mx1.wup-katowice.pl (mx1.wup-katowice.pl [195.39.216.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4068FC16 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 05:25:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arek@wup-katowice.pl) Received: from mx1.wup-katowice.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.wup-katowice.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9868A61C5B for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:26:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (arek.wup-katowice.pl [195.39.216.233]) by mx1.wup-katowice.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 922FC61C5A for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:26:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:25:22 +0200 From: Arek Czereszewski User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A4AFC07.6030808@wup-katowice.pl> In-Reply-To: <4A4AFC07.6030808@wup-katowice.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Message-ID: <4A4D9642.2010207@wup-katowice.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.36/RELEASE, bases: 20090703 #2417628, check: 20090703 clean Subject: Re: Portaudit strange behavior. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: arek@wup-katowice.pl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:25:25 -0000 Hi again, Today portaudit works fine with ${portaudit_sites="http://portaudit.FreeBSD.org/"} Now I need to change this option in portaudit on all servers. Regards Arek -- Arek Czereszewski arek (at) wup-katowice (dot) pl "UNIX allows me to work smarter, not harder." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 05:53:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992A11065670 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 05:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532028FC15 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 05:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MMbiM-0004aq-Oe for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:53:38 +0000 Received: from s0106001cf0c835a7.du.shawcable.net ([70.67.176.112]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:53:38 +0000 Received: from prad by s0106001cf0c835a7.du.shawcable.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:53:38 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: prad Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:53:26 -0700 Lines: 20 Message-ID: <20090702225326.424b0f28@gom> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: s0106001cf0c835a7.du.shawcable.net X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.2; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Sender: news Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:53:40 -0000 On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:58:15 -0400 Daniel Underwood wrote: > Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you > prefer? and why? > we use archlinux (though we've enjoyed debian and the ubuntus). arch is very clean and fast - rather bsd like in fact. it is very well supported by the community - even before you use it: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_vs_Others -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 06:27:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666C31065673 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 06:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1749B8FC19 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 06:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so947902and.13 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:27:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wIKqKJ38638ezkgyVEwd2hn6Eb/yI6Ms1CR3eDZIZdY=; b=arvTMlm+nNAyIIpbWLlIzOEuPaJb7NI067yok9FLm49OGRIl0mR41sPi8MSQItgFvA A8B8rq1moAgGEbLhP9g+qdOjlZjc6kPWB0IrFEaUaaj/e2ZDXjJD8ls+8sUM+9dHEyD2 APFGTkym29U56koD0+3is6O9iflETugRLgx74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qGrndljHx2kVVVobov+O5tUWqiHBT589ci6updvCFl6d6jKoj0cYqrGUZTAVMpdf/7 NBPp4LIVXG4GqUfZnEY7We6BlIlABNcYHHZ/24GebkTSL2fY7+EmsV1NLAUL2mQciQnx QZVzqpASBWcQJFBuO5ZyulCIEMJ+p3Kfq61D0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.32.138 with SMTP id c10mr1006192ibd.28.1246602446333; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:27:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3a142e750907021314j7dc4dcedv88d8ea83ffd94d5c@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d5d3ca90907011048t1a096865iceaa3b82c1af82f4@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907011055r3750fd54rb66612a4b110e090@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907011120h35b5e665gee30466ce72097e7@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907011526ka68c664s3606fdc9b4ad2889@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907011845g26124a59y9643ef4623610f6@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907020304tcb3296fy574dfc4b0fd7d875@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907021152t65160614ne9d3c6b4ce81f671@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907021314j7dc4dcedv88d8ea83ffd94d5c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 02:27:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3d5d3ca90907022327m1858369fp117d1daf3436c876@mail.gmail.com> From: Robert Hall To: "Paul B. Mahol" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:27:27 -0000 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: >> $ ifconfig ral0 list scan >> SSID =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0BSSID =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0CHAN RATE = =A0 S:N =A0 =A0 INT CAPS >> livingroom =A0 =A0 =A000:13:10:b9:e7:d6 =A0 =A06 =A0 54M -93:-95 =A0100 = E > > 93 is too low. Paul, I really appreciate your help. I'm obviously not an expert on either wireless networks or radio communication in general. But I doubt the accuracy of the scan. First of all, there's an XP box less than a foot away getting a "very good" signal (according to both the MS and the Belkin utilities), and successfully communicating with the wireless network. When I move the FBSD box and put the XP box in it's place, the XP box continues to report a good signal and continues to communicate with the network. While the XP box is reporting variations in rate and signal, the FBSD box reports no change. Secondly, when I run "ifconfig ral0 up scan", the scan hangs. It never completes or reports results. According to the man page, it's supposed to complete the scan, report the results, and exit. I have to Ctrl-C and run "ifconfig ral0 list scan" to get the results. So I know that at least part of the scan function doesn't work and I know that it's not detecting changes in rate and signal that are being reported by the XP box. 1) The XP box works fine with the Linksys NIC in it. 2) Both the XP and FBSD boxes are Dell Optiplex GX270, so they have identical hardware aside from the wireless NICs. 3) The md5 checksum for the install CD is correct, so I should have a good installation of 7.2 4) I seem to be getting a good signal, good enough to communicate with the network. 5) Both the Belkin and the Linksys work fine in the XP box. 6) The FBSD box always reports the same data, regardless of changes in conditions. 7) If I move the boxes and test them in the same physical location, oriented in the same direction, the XP box works and the FBSD box doesn't. So my guess is that output from a scan is the result of a problem in the driver, and not the result of actual conditions. If I thought I could solve this with a high gain antenna, I'd buy one in a second. But at the moment I have pretty good reason to believe that the problem isn't signal strength. I'd still like to compile a working ndis driver for either the Belkin F5D7000 v.7032 or the Linksys WMP54G v.4.1, if that is possible, or get the ral driver to work with the Linksys. I'd be willing to move from 7.2 to 6.4 if anyone has had success with that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 08:29:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C46106564A for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED458FC13 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1812562fxm.43 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:29:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IZkoMqUM6V0/jbzQHXCGq9RepS1LkbFcLyJuTdFcSn4=; b=LDk0Wx6rm79KqKf6jpyxHDrNFMNQ198clxIPkYHRp41F1T/HKNGofNQm6ev/kaaip8 G7Oylselm4RDejdWHsC94thI1e070E1INhGrHVImQCLBXmZfQzJu3nszXrMGiVGDZxqW MNdzI+XSqbi5LCBfqf3v2lxlIDCfcYg31pT9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EGdq3xdTlueQuUn89vtgUp/wqg9gXrtQHbSkae3gUmRhGbp4MRhHSDNG202/fCRPao N4lkY7zlwOy4C7ONwWz5NOPGjGgH0UGbtzeV62ZK7+WffuWYqxyUyXuCMUWnVt82DOXK ZkNz/05HMM2oRndl8Gs8NZms0nlTmICTKehr0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.118.138 with SMTP id v10mr1031332bkq.40.1246609767054; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:29:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3d5d3ca90907022327m1858369fp117d1daf3436c876@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d5d3ca90907011048t1a096865iceaa3b82c1af82f4@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907011055r3750fd54rb66612a4b110e090@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907011120h35b5e665gee30466ce72097e7@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907011526ka68c664s3606fdc9b4ad2889@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907011845g26124a59y9643ef4623610f6@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907020304tcb3296fy574dfc4b0fd7d875@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907021152t65160614ne9d3c6b4ce81f671@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750907021314j7dc4dcedv88d8ea83ffd94d5c@mail.gmail.com> <3d5d3ca90907022327m1858369fp117d1daf3436c876@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:29:26 +0000 Message-ID: <3a142e750907030129t214e9ee8ub74143efbf555818@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Robert Hall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless NICs on 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:29:29 -0000 On 7/3/09, Robert Hall wrote: > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: >>> $ ifconfig ral0 list scan >>> SSID BSSID CHAN RATE S:N INT CAPS >>> livingroom 00:13:10:b9:e7:d6 6 54M -93:-95 100 E >> >> 93 is too low. > > Paul, I really appreciate your help. I'm obviously not an expert on > either wireless networks or radio communication in general. But I > doubt the accuracy of the scan. First of all, there's an XP box less > than a foot away getting a "very good" signal (according to both the > MS and the Belkin utilities), and successfully communicating with the > wireless network. When I move the FBSD box and put the XP box in it's > place, the XP box continues to report a good signal and continues to > communicate with the network. While the XP box is reporting > variations in rate and signal, the FBSD box reports no change. > Secondly, when I run "ifconfig ral0 up scan", the scan hangs. It never > completes or reports results. According to the man page, it's supposed > to complete the scan, report the results, and exit. I have to Ctrl-C > and run "ifconfig ral0 list scan" to get the results. So I know that > at least part of the scan function doesn't work and I know that it's > not detecting changes in rate and signal that are being reported by > the XP box. That have sense only if station is associated. Reported driver signal is to low to be usefull. > 1) The XP box works fine with the Linksys NIC in it. > 2) Both the XP and FBSD boxes are Dell Optiplex GX270, so they have > identical hardware aside from the wireless NICs. > 3) The md5 checksum for the install CD is correct, so I should have a > good installation of 7.2 > 4) I seem to be getting a good signal, good enough to communicate with > the network. > 5) Both the Belkin and the Linksys work fine in the XP box. > 6) The FBSD box always reports the same data, regardless of changes in > conditions. > 7) If I move the boxes and test them in the same physical location, > oriented in the same direction, the XP box works and the FBSD box > doesn't. > > So my guess is that output from a scan is the result of a problem in > the driver, and not the result of actual conditions. If I thought I > could solve this with a high gain antenna, I'd buy one in a second. > But at the moment I have pretty good reason to believe that the > problem isn't signal strength. I'd still like to compile a working > ndis driver for either the Belkin F5D7000 v.7032 or the Linksys WMP54G > v.4.1, if that is possible, or get the ral driver to work with the > Linksys. I'd be willing to move from 7.2 to 6.4 if anyone has had > success with that. I'm aware of similar problems with rum(4) driver - signal is too low comparing to linux rt73 and ndisulator. I don't have ral(4) card so I can not comment on that. Alternative approach would be to explore AP settings. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 12:10:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC3210656B2 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from helpdesk@halifax.co.uk) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608A58FC1A for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from helpdesk@halifax.co.uk) Received: from infong21.kundenserver.de (infong21.kundenserver.de [212.227.109.52]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKv5w-1MMhOU2rw7-000L6b; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:57:30 +0200 Received: from 82.128.45.5 (IP may be forged by CGI script) by infong21.kundenserver.de with HTTP id 4Ag7xt-1MMhOU2PD0-0000Jo; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:57:30 +0200 X-Sender-Info: <13374752@infong21.kundenserver.de> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:57:30 +0200 Message-Id: <4Ag7xt-1MMhOU2PD0-0000Jo@infong21.kundenserver.de> Precedence: bulk To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Halifax Bank plc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19LPxEe6K3nGw7wfb35v/eA61aLWm7HUS7zBIP xbMBufKHBZkITXNBV4uQH5fc0xyU4dRDUtOPI2i4DxREQ/wacx s0fH4tnvmQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Account Locked !!!! 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Security Advisor Halifax Bank Plc References 1. http://www.eski.dostyurekler.net/includes/_mem_bin/formslogin.asp/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 12:57:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D2E1065670 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-out3.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-OUT3.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA3B8FC0C for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,341,1243807200"; d="scan'208";a="7483537" Received: from zivmaildisp2.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.143]) by zivm-relay3.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 03 Jul 2009 14:57:04 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id A0C391B008A; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:57:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:57:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem with audio apps and mixer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:57:07 -0000 hi there, i've never had a problem to adjust the volume with audio apps like mplayer or mpd. recently however i'm experiencing this strange behaviour. the app's volume doesn't match the volume that `mixer` reports. here's an example: `mpc`: J.R.R. Tolkien - [playing] #2/19 1:54/3:06 (61%) volume: 45% repeat: off random: off `mixer`: Mixer vol is currently set to 40:40 Mixer pcm is currently set to 70:70 Mixer speaker is currently set to 75:75 Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer mix is currently set to 0:0 Mixer rec is currently set to 0:0 Recording source: mic if i adjust the volume in mplayer or mpd the volume DOES get increased, but the mixer settings don't change. after a song change or pausing a video however the volume settings get reset to the previous settings. here's an example: [arundel@arundel - 02:51 pm] mpc J.R.R. Tolkien - [playing] #5/19 3:01/6:23 (47%) volume: 45% repeat: off random: off [arundel@arundel - 02:51 pm] mpc volume 60 J.R.R. Tolkien - [playing] #5/19 3:05/6:23 (48%) volume: 60% repeat: off random: off [arundel@arundel - 02:51 pm] mixer Mixer vol is currently set to 40:40 Mixer pcm is currently set to 70:70 Mixer speaker is currently set to 75:75 Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer mix is currently set to 0:0 Mixer rec is currently set to 0:0 Recording source: mic [arundel@arundel - 02:51 pm] mpc pause J.R.R. Tolkien - [paused] #5/19 3:10/6:23 (50%) volume: 70% repeat: off random: off [arundel@arundel - 02:51 pm] mpc play J.R.R. Tolkien - [playing] #5/19 3:11/6:23 (50%) volume: 45% repeat: off random: off it seems the apps don't actually access /dev/mixer, but instead use an internal volume setting. i had a look at /dev and this is the output of `ls|grep mixer`: mixer0 mixer1 mixer2 i thought maybe i need to create a symlink from mixer0 to mixer, but that doesn't work: ln: mixer: File exists i haven't changed mplayer's of mpd's settings in years, so this seems to be a freebsd problem. i'm running r195247 (HEAD). this is the output of `cat /dev/sndstat`: FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2009061500/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 [MPSAFE] (1p:4v/1r:4v channels duplex default) pcm1: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex) pcm2: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex) cheers. alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 13:01:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A949E1065672 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:01:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6636D8FC15 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:01:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD8824BAC; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:01:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n63D1m44001637; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:01:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:01:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Modulok Message-Id: <20090703150148.6ba53cb1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <64c038660907020728q5b78fb9av1b60591716b9d733@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090702072125.6a3e513d.freebsd@edvax.de> <64c038660907020728q5b78fb9av1b60591716b9d733@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Daniel Underwood , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:01:56 -0000 On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:28:01 -0600, Modulok wrote: > That and Linux seems to only ever get the abridged version of manual > pages. When you compare manual pages for an equivalent commands > between FreeBSD and most Linux flavors, it really shows. I noticed > this when I went from Debian to FreeBSD. "Finally! Real > documentation!" There ware two things that I found to be solved better in FreeBSD than in various Linusi: 1. Amount of manual pages: FreeBSD does not only document commands, it documents configuration files, kerlen interfaces, library functions and maintenance procedures. The tradition of manual pages furthermore is carried by third party software (ports), e. g. "man opera" - you would not guess that it existed. In the opposite, try to find a manpage of some KDE program (as if anyone would read manpages for KDE things). 2. Quality of documentation: The manpages are excellently written. No "look at our Wiki" or "this page intentionally left free" there. furthermore, the OS's source is very tidy, uses good names for functions, variables and datatypes, and has lots of useful comments. As a developer, documentation is a MUST HAVE for me. Having all the documentation avaliable "off line" right after installation is very good. Sadly, Linux didn't (doesn't?) offer this. In functionality - driver availability, to call it by name - Linux may be much better than FreeBSD. It may even support crap devices as it is done by proprietary "Windows" drivers. But because I (1) do not own such hardware and (2) usually don't use "modern" computers, I do not depend on them. That's the great thing when you live in the stone age - you don't have to care for any "modern" stuff. :-) FreeBSD, in opposite to most Linusi, enables me to run my old hardware FASTER (!) with each release. Sadly, this gain of speed is eaten up by other things I use right away, such as X and its applications. I can't imagine that Linux would make a better shape here. I sometimes try some Live system CD from a Linux distribution to see it this is still the case. Is this the case? Yes, it is the case. Reboot, return to FreeBSD. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 13:06:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C2D1065670 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7F88FC0A for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF6224BD9; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:06:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n63D60K1001644; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:06:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:06:00 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <20090703150600.b43d01f2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <871voz15iz.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <20090702072125.6a3e513d.freebsd@edvax.de> <200907020907.08159.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <871voz15iz.fsf@kobe.laptop> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jonathan McKeown , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:06:03 -0000 On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:14:12 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:07:08 +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > I was wondering if there were any other Slackers out there! > > Of course we are still `out there'. > > I started using a UNIX-like clone on my 386 SX with Slackware, by > fetching the floppy disk images. I've abandoned Linux for serious work > for years now, but I still have my Infomagic CD-ROMs :) hehe, me too. :-) In my case, it's a POWER!-CD LINUX (from Sybex) of Slackware with kernel 2.0.32, X 3.1.1 - purchased with a magazine for 29,95 DM many years ago. The system it ran on was a 486 DX2 / 66. And the system was quite usable, especially support for PS printer and LaTeX were most helpful. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 10:12:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5764106564A; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D4A8FC18; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MMfl8-0005jG-9P; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:12:53 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MMfl7-0002g1-Dy; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:12:45 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n63ACiPF092311; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:12:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n63ACgXm092310; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:12:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:12:42 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090703101242.GA59906@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090625110253.GA31443@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <10FCC74D-6D46-4112-AD89-BBB4C5933957@mac.com> <20090701105649.GA62596@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090702083709.GA66827@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.2 X-Spam-Level: - X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:38:57 +0000 Cc: Marcel Moolenaar , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror per partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:12:55 -0000 On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 03:48:41PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>> > >>> # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da0p2 > >>> gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/da0p2: Operation not permitted. > >> isn't that partition accessed by other process or mounted? > > > > should it not be mounted? > yes it should not, no matter what architecture. ok, thank you So how can I gmirror root partition? I can't unmount it, I think. Perhaps I need to use a single-user mode? Following is a gpart/gmirror report - some success and problems. I did a fresh FBSD current install on ia64 on directly attached scsi, da0. # gpart show => 34 35566411 da0 GPT (17G) 34 819200 1 efi (400M) 819234 1048576 2 freebsd-ufs (512M) 1867810 4194304 3 freebsd-swap (2.0G) 6062114 2097152 4 freebsd-ufs (1.0G) 8159266 2097152 5 freebsd-ufs (1.0G) 10256418 25310027 6 freebsd-ufs (12G) # What I want is to mirror the whole of the boot disk to da1, which is identical to da0, but following Marcel's advice, will apply gmirror per partition. So starting with efi partition: First I create GPT scheme on da1 # gpart create -s gpt da1 da1 created # gpart show da1 => 34 35566411 da1 GPT (17G) 34 35566411 - free - (17G) # then I create EFI partition of the same size as on the boot disk, da0. # gpart add -b 34 -s 819200 -t efi da1 da1p1 added # gpart show da1 => 34 35566411 da1 GPT (17G) 34 819200 1 efi (400M) 819234 34747211 - free - (17G) # then I umount /efi so that I can create gmirror label on da0p1. # umount /efi # gmirror label -vb round-robin efi /dev/da0p1 Metadata value stored on /dev/da0p1. Done. # Checking gmirror # gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/efi COMPLETE da0p1 # and another check # gmirror list Geom name: efi State: COMPLETE Components: 1 Balance: round-robin Slice: 4096 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 3904698645 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/efi Mediasize: 419429888 (400M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Consumers: 1. Name: da0p1 Mediasize: 419430400 (400M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 1288665799 # now insert a spare partition, da1p1, into the mirror # gmirror insert efi /dev/da1p1 status looks fine # gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/efi DEGRADED da0p1 da1p1 (44%) # gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/efi DEGRADED da0p1 da1p1 (87%) # gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/efi COMPLETE da0p1 da1p1 # and another check # gmirror list Geom name: efi State: COMPLETE Components: 2 Balance: round-robin Slice: 4096 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 3904698645 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/efi Mediasize: 419429888 (400M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r0w0e0 Consumers: 1. Name: da0p1 Mediasize: 419430400 (400M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 1288665799 2. Name: da1p1 Mediasize: 419430400 (400M) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 1724596009 # So far, so good. Now, I don't need to create the filesystem on the mirror, because EFI was copied from da0p1 to da1p1. So, I try to mount /dev/mirror/efi # mount -t msdosfs /dev/mirror/efi /mnt # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0p2 507630 35904 431116 8% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/da0p5 1012974 12 931926 0% /tmp /dev/da0p6 12252370 252608 11019574 2% /usr /dev/da0p4 1012974 242 931696 0% /var /dev/mirror/efi 409504 163264 246240 40% /mnt # again seems ok so I proceed to modify /etc/fstab and change da0p1 into mirror/efi # cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/da0p3 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/da0p2 / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/mirror/efi /efi msdosfs rw 0 0 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ /dev/da0p5 /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da0p6 /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da0p4 /var ufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 # now I can try to just mount /efi # umount /mnt # mount /efi # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0p2 507630 35904 431116 8% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/da0p5 1012974 12 931926 0% /tmp /dev/da0p6 12252370 252608 11019574 2% /usr /dev/da0p4 1012974 242 931696 0% /var /dev/mirror/efi 409504 163264 246240 40% /efi # good, working! now to mirror root partition. My problem is that root is mounted and cannot (?) be unmounted, unlike /efi, on the live system. # gpart add -b 819234 -s 1048576 -t freebsd-ufs da1 da1p2 added # # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da0p2 gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/da0p2: Operation not permitted. # If I create gmirror on da1, the spare disk: # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da1p2 Metadata value stored on /dev/da0p1. Done. # so that # gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/efi COMPLETE da0p1 da1p1 mirror/root COMPLETE da1p2 # then I still cannot insert da0p2 # gmirror insert root da0p2 gmirror: Cannot access provider da0p2. # So how can I gmirror root partion on a live system? Also, if gmirror overwrites the last sector in the partition, then gmirror per partition cannot be used for /usr, because secondary GPT is stored in the last sector of /usr. Isn't it? many thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 11:37:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC411065672 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalroi@solfertje.student.utwente.nl) Received: from solfertje.student.utwente.nl (solfertje.student.utwente.nl [130.89.167.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077A58FC17 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dalroi@solfertje.student.utwente.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by solfertje.student.utwente.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id C36408069 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:18:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hollewijn.internal (hollewijn.internal [10.236.150.4]) by solfertje.student.utwente.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841F68053; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:18:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <1944CCC8-B2D5-4C06-B21C-FAA5A37D6EE1@solfertje.student.utwente.nl> From: Alban Hertroys To: Anton Shterenlikht In-Reply-To: <20090703101242.GA59906@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:18:28 +0200 References: <20090625110253.GA31443@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <10FCC74D-6D46-4112-AD89-BBB4C5933957@mac.com> <20090701105649.GA62596@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090702083709.GA66827@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090703101242.GA59906@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Jul 3 13:18:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 1.0000 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0023 X-DSPAM-Signature: 760,4a4de90f759155226611503 X-DSPAM-Factors: 27, many, 0.40000, but, 0.40000, but, 0.40000, That, 0.40000, That, 0.40000, From*Alban, 0.40000, shell, 0.40000, I+tried, 0.40000, partion, 0.40000, just, 0.40000, that+case, 0.40000, I'd+like, 0.40000, mount+the, 0.40000, system+>, 0.40000, still+cannot, 0.40000, from+a, 0.40000, can+always, 0.40000, Mime-Version*Message, 0.40000, geom+metadata, 0.40000, >+gmirror, 0.40000, >+gmirror, 0.40000, freebsd+current, 0.40000, "freebsd, 0.40000, or, 0.40000, or, 0.40000, 12+12, 0.40000, >+da1p2, 0.40000 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:39:12 +0000 Cc: freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org, Wojciech Puchar , Marcel Moolenaar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror per partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:37:12 -0000 On Jul 3, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > now to mirror root partition. > > My problem is that root is mounted and cannot (?) be unmounted, > unlike /efi, > on the live system. > > # gpart add -b 819234 -s 1048576 -t freebsd-ufs da1 > da1p2 added > # > > # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da0p2 > gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/da0p2: Operation not permitted. > # > > If I create gmirror on da1, the spare disk: > > # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da1p2 > Metadata value stored on /dev/da0p1. > Done. > # > > so that > > # gmirror status > Name Status Components > mirror/efi COMPLETE da0p1 > da1p1 > mirror/root COMPLETE da1p2 > > # > > > then I still cannot insert da0p2 > > > # gmirror insert root da0p2 > gmirror: Cannot access provider da0p2. > # > > So how can I gmirror root partion on a live system? You're almost there... I did this a while ago, can't remember when, but I just upgraded the system that had this from FreeBSD 6.3 of sometime in 2006 to 7.2. What I believe I did from this point on was: Copy everything from the root partition to mirror/root. Modify /etc/fstab to mount root on mirror/root. Reboot. Now the original root partition isn't mounted anymore, so we can do operate on it's geom stuff. gmirror insert root da0p2 That should be it. If that doesn't work you can always boot off a live file-system CD/DVD and perform these actions from there. You won't have man pages in that case though, or at least I couldn't find a way to read them off the DVD last I tried. One thing I'd like to warn about at this point: If you ever upgrade to a kernel with a newer geom metadata version and that new kernel crashes, you're left with a system where the new kernel can't boot at all while the old kernel can't mount the root mirror as it's now of a version it can't handle. You can however mount a single geom provider of that root file system (/dev/da1p2 for example) to try to fix things. That file-system WILL be dirty, but DON'T run fsck on it or you will destroy it's contents. That's what happened to my upgrade above... Thankfully it was only my root partition with hardly any data on it and I did make level 0 dumps before the upgrade, but I needed to restore that FS from a fixit shell without man pages. Augh! > many thanks > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > > > > Alban Hertroys -- If you can't see the forest for the trees, cut the trees and you'll see there is no forest. !DSPAM:760,4a4de90f759155226611503! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 13:47:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399F7106566C for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f214.google.com (mail-bw0-f214.google.com [209.85.218.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48D98FC1B for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz10 with SMTP id 10so257134bwz.43 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:46:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VbodLtTJqqN40KJvkWD79jNptT378PiqUqVgdxqBx3c=; b=FlE416OZnt+/gF95lcwo21ALgvQvuyeS1iuBU3cdPuTSIdClP/aDLTPetih6wPW+Ty Gb64R36tlCXbeuIYiO/NojK3E4I42ELIy0ilcaFk4sv0/j1RfjQrX/GvLLKeO+npI3S0 YYf61g26pEBXoCyDCIORoIIZwIH01CtkmsasU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q0P9RWMLAGG1Gdb4g6PtmOfgl4gdnoETs87jebyJThHbYcn734lalvyo1Ev8bZ4QCf Avm21p/ouYErAVJN9DAXlajqpHHszcV3fvtU/mkijatrF/6lyN9u9wBSmO+Hg/Xy9W2d FR6/VruRpzDJANOPd076bRgRF7j21EGvaf0z4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.53.1 with SMTP id k1mr1304082bkg.50.1246628819720; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:46:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:46:59 +0000 Message-ID: <3a142e750907030646v68401986pf411d6e4fb8df273@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Alexander Best Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with audio apps and mixer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:47:01 -0000 On 7/3/09, Alexander Best wrote: > hi there, > > i've never had a problem to adjust the volume with audio apps like mplayer > or > mpd. recently however i'm experiencing this strange behaviour. the app's > volume doesn't match the volume that `mixer` reports. here's an example: CURRENT have VPC. You can completly disable such feature with this sysctl: hint.pcm.X.vpc (default=undefined, enabled) 0=disable, 1=enable Notes: The only place to enable/disable vpc. Enabling/Disabling requires driver reload. here is explanation with more details: http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/SOUND_4.TXT.html -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 14:12:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845811065673 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:12:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-out1.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-OUT1.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70E18FC23 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,342,1243807200"; d="scan'208";a="276205510" Received: from zivmaildisp2.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.143]) by zivm-relay1.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 03 Jul 2009 16:12:08 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER04.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id 41B161B008A; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:12:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:12:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: "Paul B. Mahol" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3a142e750907030646v68401986pf411d6e4fb8df273@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with audio apps and mixer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:12:10 -0000 wow. thanks a bunch. this new feature of having each app use it's own volume setting is pretty cool. however i think i'd like to preserve the volume setting for each application and rather not have it reset. because i think this feature takes the pid of the app and preserves the volume for the pid. mplayer and mpd however seem to fork a new instance after a song change or pausing etc. so so the volume get's reset while the app is still running. i might be wrong, but i think there's a typo in this description of the feature i'm looking for: hw.snd.vpc_autoreset (default=1, enabled) 0=disable, 1=enable Notes: By default, channel volume will be reset to 0db relative after the channel is closed which means that any changes will be lost and not preserved. Setting this to '1' will preserve the volume at the cost of possible confusion for other applications trying to re-open the same device (see hw.snd.vpc_reset for possible 'panic' switch to fix the volumes). shouldn't it be: hw.snd.vpc_autoreset (default=1, enabled) 0=disable, 1=enable Notes: By default, channel volume will be reset to 0db relative after the channel is closed which means that any changes will be lost and not preserved. Setting this to '0' will preserve the volume at the cost of possible confusion for other applications trying to re-open the same device (see hw.snd.vpc_reset for possible 'panic' switch to fix the volumes). ???? so after settings hw.snd.vpc_autoreset=0 each application uses it's own volume setting AND preserves it. just what i wanted. even better because i didn't know this cool new feature existed. :) thanks again for the hint. cheers. alex Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-03: > On 7/3/09, Alexander Best wrote: > > hi there, > > i've never had a problem to adjust the volume with audio apps like > > mplayer > > or > > mpd. recently however i'm experiencing this strange behaviour. the > > app's > > volume doesn't match the volume that `mixer` reports. here's an > > example: > CURRENT have VPC. > You can completly disable such feature with this sysctl: > hint.pcm.X.vpc (default=undefined, enabled) > 0=disable, 1=enable > Notes: The only place to enable/disable vpc. > Enabling/Disabling requires driver reload. > here is explanation with more details: > http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/SOUND_4.TXT.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 14:19:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4D21065670 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@digitaltorque.ca) Received: from mail.storm.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f0b0:0:6:209:87:239:66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8CE8FC12 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@digitaltorque.ca) Received: from anton.digitaltorque.ca (hs-216-106-102-79.storm.ca [216.106.102.79]) by mail.storm.ca (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n63EAJ70020123 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by anton.digitaltorque.ca (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 870B6860003; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:10:14 -0400 From: "Michael P. Soulier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090703141013.GH9745@anton.digitaltorque.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090703140629.GG9745@anton.digitaltorque.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J/zg8ciPNcraoWb6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090703140629.GG9745@anton.digitaltorque.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: Re: portupgrade says nothing to do but portversion disagrees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:19:14 -0000 --J/zg8ciPNcraoWb6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/07/09 Michael P. Soulier said: > For weeks now my usual portupgrade test has returned the same thing. Actually, I'm not sure cvsup is updating my ports tree properly... Connected to cvsup1.ca.FreeBSD.org Updating collection ports-all/cvs Finished successfully Normally there's a lot more output than that.=20 Mike --J/zg8ciPNcraoWb6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFKThFFKGqCc1vIvggRAnPGAKC9Hk3ammWw15iWcEymEO7deqLHbACeJd10 ZQa/K0i23LT5WrHYS5GDmKw= =bjEY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/zg8ciPNcraoWb6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 14:20:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28254106568D for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@digitaltorque.ca) Received: from mail.storm.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f0b0:0:6:209:87:239:66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE298FC29 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@digitaltorque.ca) Received: from anton.digitaltorque.ca (hs-216-106-102-79.storm.ca [216.106.102.79]) by mail.storm.ca (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n63E6ZR0019836 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:06:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by anton.digitaltorque.ca (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 89CF6860003; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:06:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:06:30 -0400 From: "Michael P. Soulier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090703140629.GG9745@anton.digitaltorque.ca> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HB4mHL4PVvkpZAgW" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: portupgrade says nothing to do but portversion disagrees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:20:19 -0000 --HB4mHL4PVvkpZAgW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For weeks now my usual portupgrade test has returned the same thing. msoulier@kanga:~$ sudo portupgrade -na Password: ---> Session started at: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:01:30 -0400 ** Stale lock file was found. Removed. ** Stale lock file was found. Removed. ** Package 'p5-Text-ParseWords' has been removed from ports tree. ---> ** Upgrade tasks 1: 0 done, 1 ignored, 0 skipped and 0 failed ---> Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) - (p5-Text-ParseWords-3.1) ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 1 ignored, 0 skipped and 0 failed ---> Session ended at: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:04:00 -0400 (consumed 00:02:29) But portversion says msoulier@kanga:~$ sudo /usr/local/sbin/portversion -v -l '<' ** Stale lock file was found. Removed. ** Stale lock file was found. Removed. apache-2.0.63_2 < needs updating (port has 2.0.63_3)=20 apr-nothr-gdbm-db42-1.3.3.1.3.4_1 < needs updating (port has 1.3.5.1.3.7_= 3)=20 cacti-0.8.7d < needs updating (port has 0.8.7e)=20 cairo-1.8.6_1,1 < needs updating (port has 1.8.8,1)=20 curl-7.19.5 < needs updating (port has 7.19.5_1)=20 dirmngr-1.0.2_1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3)=20 gamin-0.1.10_2 < needs updating (port has 0.1.10_3)=20 git-1.6.3.1 < needs updating (port has 1.6.3.3)=20 gnupg-2.0.11 < needs updating (port has 2.0.12)=20 isc-dhcp30-server-3.0.7_4 < needs updating (port has 3.0.7_5)=20 lcms-1.18,1 < needs updating (port has 1.18a,1)=20 libX11-1.2.1,1 < needs updating (port has 1.2.1_1,1)=20 libiconv-1.11_1 < needs updating (port has 1.13)=20 libksba-1.0.5 < needs updating (port has 1.0.6)=20 libxcb-1.2_1 < needs updating (port has 1.3)=20 mime-support-3.44.1 < needs updating (port has 3.46.1)=20 netpbm-10.26.62 < needs updating (port has 10.26.63)=20 nspr-4.7 < needs updating (port has 4.8)=20 p5-Archive-Tar-1.48 < needs updating (port has 1.52)=20 p5-Array-Compare-1.17 < needs updating (port has 1.18)=20 p5-Class-Accessor-0.31 < needs updating (port has 0.33)=20 p5-Class-Inspector-1.23 < needs updating (port has 1.24)=20 p5-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.019 < needs updating (port has 2.020)=20 p5-Config-IniFiles-2.49 < needs updating (port has 2.51)=20 p5-Digest-1.15_1 < needs updating (port has 1.16)=20 p5-Digest-MD5-2.38 < needs updating (port has 2.39)=20 p5-File-Temp-0.21 < needs updating (port has 0.22)=20 p5-HTML-Parser-3.60 < needs updating (port has 3.61)=20 p5-MIME-Base64-3.07 < needs updating (port has 3.08)=20 p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.2.5_3 < needs updating (port has 3.2.5_4)=20 p5-NetAddr-IP-4.02.6 < needs updating (port has 4.02.7)=20 p5-Number-Format-1.60 < needs updating (port has 1.72a)=20 p5-Scalar-List-Utils-1.20,1 < needs updating (port has 1.21,1)=20 p5-Storable-2.18 < needs updating (port has 2.20)=20 p5-Task-Weaken-1.02 < needs updating (port has 1.03)=20 p5-Test-Simple-0.86 < needs updating (port has 0.88)=20 p5-Text-ParseWords-3.1 < needs updating (port has 3.27)=20 p5-libwww-5.826 < needs updating (port has 5.828)=20 pango-1.24.2 < needs updating (port has 1.24.3)=20 perl-5.8.9_2 < needs updating (port has 5.8.9_3)=20 popt-1.7_5 < needs updating (port has 1.14)=20 portaudit-0.5.12 < needs updating (port has 0.5.13)=20 postfix-2.6.1_1,1 < needs updating (port has 2.6.2_1,1)=20 ruby-1.8.7.160,1 < needs updating (port has 1.8.7.160_3,1)=20 ruby18-gems-1.3.1 < needs updating (port has 1.3.4)=20 sqlite3-3.6.13 < needs updating (port has 3.6.14.2)=20 tcl-8.4.19_2,1 < needs updating (port has 8.4.19_3,1)=20 vim-7.2.171 < needs updating (port has 7.2.209)=20 weechat-0.2.6.2 < needs updating (port has 0.2.6.3)=20 xcb-proto-1.4 < needs updating (port has 1.5)=20 What gives? Thanks, Mike --=20 Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein --HB4mHL4PVvkpZAgW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFKThBlKGqCc1vIvggRAlutAKC539JBU165fFjIng5Okz3bNJHM/gCgkqK4 wl3JGdWiWpGG8UdJ9LcWY5o= =axQc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HB4mHL4PVvkpZAgW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 14:43:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F9D1065690 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahlerrd@yahoo.com) Received: from web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7C7A8FC17 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahlerrd@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 74401 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Jul 2009 14:16:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246630582; bh=04V4YCUwCcPHpJHTDeFoRWdM+Y1R3f+BlkhtUspT4Ek=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iQwEKRKLvdXSHFywIhSznWme0Rog4efAPZ+R8hgWuYn2Qm+VgoL8wiIvOpGO63CZSqHbOO8N2yHGLJV3ZrEA2IeMxFcTMmqT/oL0oFn5CsL+ORpC61H4yOJnQz3FpeOUn7DnEgEweFV5PNl9iTZ8EXBeUWLaJryunpqXll2Qu6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0jKEKc0AAUZRKB7yOhF6Jz3Op/bgJWClmTD8v7ufytou5Tzjo+ajIxoWbHUEhm5BL6K+sKME9gJLgtewqsOzgDNWJD8cqIwBGc3oJWhZ7SbFTil0mT623vXBo+aqxFIPzo+tgjDbncc//2kMUhFfvB/r/QL7XHAYRU7h0u4cw+Q=; Message-ID: <611581.73356.qm@web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ZHCVr44VM1naP4VZtFEU3igFVihQXC2cUfjBfEUPvSLxpMCAsrzBWEMNoe30fDkqcPKAQquFnY6ugKG8XXljCr7OyExBM6pv5cRVPYedmOiMB5_2e7TNb38FfeEC3L0a3QDWcl9Iny5NxQMMXlwCEWGNdUxf0VYpWdwQdjfMiLQcidGnDpbkCG_.3HatdGKZ7RuAwhgwEEIEJLUaSazakzF.h1b54O7USwAe8gI7pvU7O1Qyics0NlEorCoj9P.e67PebRO5hPXjckPiJFSI8g7ZC0op0D2thyd2PKM- Received: from [71.117.53.27] by web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:16:22 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:16:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Mahlerwein To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:43:05 -0000 My preferences for Linux: I have used FreeBSD fairly regularly since 2.x and various flavors of Linux since around that time as well. As I was writing the first pass at this, I realized that many or most of the problems I have with Linuxes are endemic to "Linux" (whatever that is) and not to particular distributions. My main problems with most of the them are that they are just so inconsistent. Directory structures, documentation, even just where they install packages to by default - the standardization inside FreeBSD and that which is supplied by the ports system just makes for so much more of a sane and predictable experience. Secondarily, apart from *some* of the source ones and the debian-based ones, I always end up with broken dependencies or some weird circular inconsistencies. I'm sure I could fix them if I were a rpm guru, but I am not. FreeBSD just [generally] makes it so much easier and makes me not want to become an "rpm guru". Servers: As you have probably guessed by this point, the only Linux that I feel suits my needs well enough to have used it long term (on my own, that is, not when I've been required to use it) is Debian and some of its progeny (including, in fact, Progeny itself! :). I usually end up with Ubuntu server. And it's OK. Desktops: Now, on desktops I flit around like a jack rabbit on crack. My desktop needs are completely different from my server needs. I'm usually XP (for games at home, work at work), so it's always the second and third OS on my boxes, so I try 'em all. PCLinux is actually been very good to me recently (Surprise! It's rpm based, too! How weird is that!). Kbuntu and some variants are decent enough. None of these last long enough to need more than a few patches, so I don't have the problem of dependency issues. Rich Mahlerwein Mobile: 715-891-7420 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 15:37:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D5F1065673 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE4B8FC14 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msoulier@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so1030607qwd.7 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:37:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=a12+FklTKkG3U34GYovG6KDTTEuYMi5Bkwdcrbx588E=; b=lypNmZugCLbGTFSYbpOXh4xpIXqsQWXm6NpYTIz4JmGdsk/NfxuH07HFD0kJac1EbT zgikKRtbPz1jbAhE0ERi7CB2Xr8itD/uk8O6bvhfB72nRgRM/fTxMalKVnDD1Ucqm+Ac z+SHOKshUO/WKH89AMB/c4TJ/t5ZJeR5b5dGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=VU5Rz0/5qYdnZy+pN+isOcMrY4aQAFw9KPuO6A+ulFrTGYi5JRjygVpKkh3q7ZAw/t QyWMSUNdblo2PuCG2KR/fViQ2kRVoHrFqHA7rxy5uoQkLIVlyxD5ivXddDHcDqITg9O8 xl4Etge3rwoWeYCM81Tic6F0R6PIYS1qC6wkY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: msoulier@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.54.10 with SMTP id o10mr2104532qag.36.1246633933433; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:12:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090703141013.GH9745@anton.digitaltorque.ca> References: <20090703140629.GG9745@anton.digitaltorque.ca> <20090703141013.GH9745@anton.digitaltorque.ca> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:12:13 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5c4d2c88d3b8da0c Message-ID: From: "Michael P. Soulier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portupgrade says nothing to do but portversion disagrees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:37:49 -0000 On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > Actually, I'm not sure cvsup is updating my ports tree properly... > > Connected to cvsup1.ca.FreeBSD.org > Updating collection ports-all/cvs > Finished successfully I just changed to cvsup1.freebsd.org and the difference is huge. How do I find out who owns the Canadian mirror? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 15:38:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from miki (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C8411065689; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ariff@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:38:45 +0800 From: Ariff Abdullah To: Alexander Best Message-Id: <20090703233845.707f0625.ariff@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: <3a142e750907030646v68401986pf411d6e4fb8df273@mail.gmail.com> Organization: FreeBSD X-Mailer: /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/net/smtp.rb Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Fri__3_Jul_2009_23_38_45_+0800_Ym.KAb77YOK3hfer" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with audio apps and mixer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:38:51 -0000 --Signature=_Fri__3_Jul_2009_23_38_45_+0800_Ym.KAb77YOK3hfer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:12:07 +0200 (CEST) Alexander Best wrote: [...] >=20 > shouldn't it be: >=20 > hw.snd.vpc_autoreset (default=3D1, enabled) > 0=3Ddisable, 1=3Denable > Notes: By default, channel volume will be reset to 0db > relative after the channel is closed which means > that any changes will be lost and not preserved. > Setting this to '0' will preserve the volume at ^^^ > the cost of possible confusion for other > applications trying to re-open the same device > (see hw.snd.vpc_reset for possible 'panic' switch > to fix the volumes). >=20 Good catch, thanks :) Fixed. -- Ariff Abdullah FreeBSD ... Recording in stereo is obviously too advanced and confusing for us idiot ***** users :P ........ ... Going with the standard and orthodox is the death of intellect .............. --Signature=_Fri__3_Jul_2009_23_38_45_+0800_Ym.KAb77YOK3hfer Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpOJgUACgkQlr+deMUwTNoUOACgoHDQQaNXIYaaPs4C5QS1nREH Qi4AoIgnh5Soc0+vqeR0yRdeIcKn1zrB =LqBX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Fri__3_Jul_2009_23_38_45_+0800_Ym.KAb77YOK3hfer-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 16:03:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0471065677 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F988FC13 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090703135752585.HVCA19852@hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com>; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:57:52 +0000 Received: from [172.16.1.37] (sichem-wifi.polands.org [172.16.1.37]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n63DvonS094594; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:57:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Message-ID: <4A4E0E5E.3080907@polands.org> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:57:50 -0500 From: Doug Poland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Underwood References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:03:46 -0000 Daniel Underwood wrote: > QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you > prefer? and why? > > I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux > distributions from FreeBSD fans. > I've been using FreeBSD since 2.2.1 and I implement and support FreeBSD whenever I can. That said, many companies already have a *nix infrastructure and one must use what one is given. I find Red Hat is the most common linux distribution out there. CentOS is often used by these same companies for dev and test environments. Occasionally end-users will ask me to recommend a version of linux to play with and I point them to Ubuntu. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 16:42:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418C7106564A for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:42:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA97E8FC08 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:42:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2046463fxm.43 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:42:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3UCP+4BE3v6ALGNiPNeV+jcwV51jbkk4sAR1uUzh5I0=; b=H5yUWmTC7/ncsQ1oN8SMD4rCjZ07CDww4TL+SRpJLRtfimRGg/RoAYSal6UFYbPPVh G3RgStQ+nM/QQ4oosAiS9uq3R7tjQgYMHtR4Ql0srpou8rgB1HBdyYjH4p2n+YjD0ycf BMyY0jO1rgP8IEyx5INH6zYvWvQnxoWfMUbU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xaQfB4PAFtR16P9PVR9Za+adrUwwS+RYxRGYxP2bwWBc93c92UO4dxWUyqIHyFO4Tn KGzS8WjmzsVEy2VLSGGVbuz7YI7lbpjng9CKBheRSbyjG7Cnm/hQcOZv9bzHdQi5ERHV 1j95u9Lcao5Ubq/L8mYP3UAifIk7jkPc27VTI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.118.134 with SMTP id v6mr1465754bkq.31.1246639375230; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:42:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3a142e750907030646v68401986pf411d6e4fb8df273@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:42:55 +0000 Message-ID: <3a142e750907030942g20da1244q166a2673c0563b8a@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Alexander Best Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with audio apps and mixer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:42:57 -0000 On 7/3/09, Alexander Best wrote: > wow. thanks a bunch. this new feature of having each app use it's own volume > setting is pretty cool. however i think i'd like to preserve the volume > setting for each application and rather not have it reset. because i think > this feature takes the pid of the app and preserves the volume for the pid. Negative. Same application can open and close (different) channel(s) multiple times causing volume to be changed. You can get some patches on freebsd forums for mplayer and others ... > mplayer and mpd however seem to fork a new instance after a song change or > pausing etc. so so the volume get's reset while the app is still running. Nope, there is no *forking*. > i might be wrong, but i think there's a typo in this description of the > feature i'm looking for: > > hw.snd.vpc_autoreset (default=1, enabled) > 0=disable, 1=enable > Notes: By default, channel volume will be reset to 0db > relative after the channel is closed which means that any > changes will be lost and not preserved. Setting this to > '1' > will preserve the volume at the cost of possible > confusion > for other applications trying to re-open the same > device (see hw.snd.vpc_reset for possible 'panic' switch > to > fix the volumes). > > shouldn't it be: > > hw.snd.vpc_autoreset (default=1, enabled) > 0=disable, 1=enable > Notes: By default, channel volume will be reset to 0db > relative after the channel is closed which means that any > changes will be lost and not preserved. Setting this to > '0' > will preserve the volume at the cost of possible > confusion > for other applications trying to re-open the same > device (see hw.snd.vpc_reset for possible 'panic' switch > to > fix the volumes). > > ???? > > so after settings hw.snd.vpc_autoreset=0 each application uses it's own > volume > setting AND preserves it. just what i wanted. even better because i didn't > know this cool new feature existed. :) Doesn't work as expected because if you use multiple applications at same time silenced channel may and may not become extremly noise at any time - this is OSS and not FreeBSD fault and it is implemented as is in many if not all multimedia applications; so you may look again in freebsd forums and use ariff@ patch for mplayer. I don't remmember there was patch for mpd, but you can always ask politely. > thanks again for the hint. > > cheers. > alex > > Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-03: >> On 7/3/09, Alexander Best wrote: >> > hi there, > >> > i've never had a problem to adjust the volume with audio apps like >> > mplayer >> > or >> > mpd. recently however i'm experiencing this strange behaviour. the >> > app's >> > volume doesn't match the volume that `mixer` reports. here's an >> > example: > >> CURRENT have VPC. >> You can completly disable such feature with this sysctl: >> hint.pcm.X.vpc (default=undefined, enabled) >> 0=disable, 1=enable >> Notes: The only place to enable/disable vpc. >> Enabling/Disabling requires driver reload. > >> here is explanation with more details: >> http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/SOUND_4.TXT.html > > -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 19:05:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986051065677 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:05:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtp1.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 22DF98FC18 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: (qmail 10769 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2009 12:26:08 -0700 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 10763, pid: 10764, t: 2.1811s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 spam: 3.1.7-deb X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on smtp1.surewest.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=10.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7-deb X-Spam-CMAE-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=jDt-9pEAAAAA:8 a=6J0fAqKotmp8V8qjrlcA:9 a=CZrTPm1I0OXt0h4H9fTKEXqzbtQA:4 a=R35AumO-WOIA:10 Received: from unknown (HELO blacklamb.mykitchentable.net) (69.62.230.77) by smtp1 with SMTP; 3 Jul 2009 12:26:06 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BA228165C21 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:05:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=mykitchentable.net; s=default; t=1246647924; bh=dGcn4+/Kup6gw6xh9+wp09x5/xo22vEupTCtf1soLqI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Y0S0Re394Lx/X6P6iEk16ZJTOdTwyk31dw5qqVZt6jmWMi9IL2jjF0mx8fhpryJ5B 2HwMJJ0aFWPYKYiO9D4P/ERS50otZ6PXsaAIXjYXuehIparkZyetlP1L09dBjjuOLT jj7FGIOPtJ4rfoIz04N+SKtbl/LdXbNUHGZy3amE= Message-ID: <4A4E5669.8070308@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:05:13 -0700 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090703-0, 07/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:05:28 -0000 Sorry for the poor subject. Thanks for reading. I'm using this page as a guide but am at the console so I'm just using the Fix It CD: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/remote-install/installation.html I'm attempting to install FBSD 7.2 64bit on a fresh machine. The machine has 3 500G drives and 1 750G drive. I'm trying to mirror root with gmirror. Following the examples, I've used fdisk to create one slice for each drive that uses the entire disk. Next I used bsdlabel and created 500M a: partitions on two of the drives (ad6 & ad8). However /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a do not exist. I do have entries such as /dev/ad6a and/dev/ad8a but gmirror doesn't like those. What must I do the get them to show after I've labeled? Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 19:09:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6F61065677 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from evuraan@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71AE38FC12 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:09:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from evuraan@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so1088583qwd.7 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:09:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=tRUGrvPwDlpEvoRvdG1s2blW83yQK9CQ7AnahxBp71k=; b=aOuZOLYEj0urGKVPFYBJbChop36K4MxA0+rLsBGxVy7rDUu+Gleo3QktbvVv9zmu8f K+wq6sFahZecDybVYWzWz7PC1X5RlUaI0eFvOBj+xXNFG6Ay8G/n6kVFqHZ5/80A1kbH EXUuvEcWusRwUZw9Evf8aV70WCzq+blsljsG8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=MgYQ/KL2Uzh+zEmNQmoSMriJaiSc9/rWSH830GqJ5vcXjtnNKbFGVE8lvnaGpb9fMO 1fxGZ9JvQI+Hk1AxLCXGog4PKcsK1qj7/W5LF3Y246ylgOfBg3pEED5i66BIyAE0bPDQ 45u/gixdGB3j9UzE9HSRR813oDx2RjOJNyAGo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.11.20 with SMTP id r20mr2200963qar.192.1246646590100; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:43:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <755cb9fc0907021119n26dee870t83ca3d1c9c5c3c90@mail.gmail.com> References: <755cb9fc0907011040o28b82cdbjd5760b139f797050@mail.gmail.com> <87tz1wqkmu.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87k52saz86.fsf@kobe.laptop> <755cb9fc0907021119n26dee870t83ca3d1c9c5c3c90@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:43:10 -0700 Message-ID: <6fbcd0710907031143k3c929404qbb4de33301046eef@mail.gmail.com> From: Evuraan To: Alexandre Vieira Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: scripting tip needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:09:16 -0000 good thing you found the answer. I am glad you did, and oh, I am more glad that you found your solution on ksh itself and not on "advanced scripting language, like Perl or Python.'' > Guys, > > I eventually found it with lots of rtfm on variable substitution and such.. > > [ne@dada~]$ z=0 > [ne@dada~]$ y=1 > [ne@dada~]$ x=aaa > [ne@dada~]$ eval `echo MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]`=$x > [ne@dada~]$ echo $(eval echo \${MACHINE_DISK$z[$y]}) > aaa > [ne@dada~]$ > > Thanks anyway! > > > -- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 19:39:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A97106566C for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kei-29ij@myamail.com) Received: from dos.kaslist.com (dos.kaslist.com [66.160.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F878FC12 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kei-29ij@myamail.com) Received: from dos.kaslist.com [66.160.134.9] by dos.kaslist.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MMnzh-0003YQ-8L; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:00:21 -0700 Message-Id: <3A9B9A2F-9BC0-4150-89FB-66E379F9D0A9@myamail.com> From: Fred C To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090703150148.6ba53cb1.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:00:18 -0700 References: <20090702072125.6a3e513d.freebsd@edvax.de> <64c038660907020728q5b78fb9av1b60591716b9d733@mail.gmail.com> <20090703150148.6ba53cb1.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:39:29 -0000 On Jul 3, 2009, at 6:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:28:01 -0600, Modulok wrote: >> That and Linux seems to only ever get the abridged version of manual >> pages. When you compare manual pages for an equivalent commands >> between FreeBSD and most Linux flavors, it really shows. I noticed >> this when I went from Debian to FreeBSD. "Finally! Real >> documentation!" > > There ware two things that I found to be solved better in FreeBSD than > in various Linusi: > > 1. Amount of manual pages: FreeBSD does not only document commands, > it documents configuration files, kerlen interfaces, library functions > and maintenance procedures. The tradition of manual pages furthermore > is carried by third party software (ports), e. g. "man opera" - you > would not guess that it existed. In the opposite, try to find a > manpage of some KDE program (as if anyone would read manpages for > KDE things). > > 2. Quality of documentation: The manpages are excellently written. > No "look at our Wiki" or "this page intentionally left free" there. > furthermore, the OS's source is very tidy, uses good names for > functions, variables and datatypes, and has lots of useful comments. > > As a developer, documentation is a MUST HAVE for me. Having all > the documentation avaliable "off line" right after installation > is very good. > > Sadly, Linux didn't (doesn't?) offer this. I agree, the linux documentation is very scarce. Having good man pages is very convenient, specially when you are in a data center with just a console on a cart. Having to go online to check some badly organised wiki is not always convenient or possible. I also have my share of frustration with the logs. The messages in the log files are often inconsistent and unhelpful. In this following example the kernel is reporting a disk error but forgot to specify the most important information, the disk. Jul 3 00:07:53 locdata204 kernel: [5706229.550000] res 41/40:00:52:4a:73/83:02:27:00:00/00 Emask 0x9 (media error) -fred- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 19:57:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153F310656C1 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B76F8FC1D for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so2744677ewy.43 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:57:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Rnm9OkY0LyyI+YS5Kb5tzhQv0hPU/6w+Fbg4tyWcs0s=; b=Re/lakRz6s5oSsklPexBblsL91nSsG6DOqz76aHDDtQOXCdoVCuq7Reu4SwbtZ2zrk Oxoyf2LsDdq8EWWGEaBgAEo50lZ19p4DSV7WSGzHU+YpWvuhgkTFHrdRxe0bjA3beT7v OWFCPR1SBy4tZ8sTfhZzqV6YW77VvJcMNFr70= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=wBDSHOSslgG1wNZIz9m6Hd5ZvN9FkiMD9pO9nTC02NsVLvS6HGr4YdtHgTR2aG151u r0SDPdk7LZIdbMG1uDA2PJHz54kzj7PVCf6U6R3kQ+0d8bPBqgL9pHfYoVs3Y8SYNKyQ n26sJJ+kUWwPxg18vbXRggqtMh3ZjglsqlxAw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.19.212 with SMTP id n62mr451947wen.66.1246651034348; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:57:13 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:57:16 -0000 Whenever I run the particular Linux MATLAB installation I have access to, it must be run from the command-line. Consequently, I have the MATLAB gui and an open terminal window (which only gets in the way). Is there a way to "hide" this terminal window completely? If I close it, MATLAB closes. I know I can move it to another Workspace, but I'm hoping there's another way. I don't mind that the Terminal window opens whenever I run MATLAB, I would just like to be able to hide it each time. NOTE: When I say "hide", I mean simply make it not show up on the screen. I do not mean hide the process or anything of that nature. TIA, Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 19:59:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E3A106564A for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:59:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DAF48FC17 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:59:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so643571eyd.3 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:59:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zKMtZl4cLfuU+NLvik9fa1w/3KY3A96TXM6joXDOM0E=; b=OKUceo6aVM9r0K5Jfns7OHt+Tn7GCWrA0/YGNe+4+flgRd1fbUHNZ/OrQd9r8/0bYp KLUHFHSemkEs07m1I8P2KATQATFqLc7Rf4+9Hln4sFBzkMat8hBYPrgVZnH5N0EnbAm9 PJMML9QllYOxoZwBO9ASaTWf4jgMrAmW5CMEg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Z9XzZvapsJu39Agl9tgHsdfxwwOCR6DQHQjlXyFvArBq+/mgXc2gIpZUHXFiQVqRRL opzuT8tBAVp5vOprcJ9xVf01MN1RY1m0mabUbhKA3tCrziM1EBjIKx/Dz9sWbnrExzH5 0/y0gszBQFyAfy/fv4uxwwmM75hzb7Fm9wPPw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.45.78 with SMTP id o56mr453199web.152.1246651166808; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:59:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3A9B9A2F-9BC0-4150-89FB-66E379F9D0A9@myamail.com> References: <20090702072125.6a3e513d.freebsd@edvax.de> <64c038660907020728q5b78fb9av1b60591716b9d733@mail.gmail.com> <20090703150148.6ba53cb1.freebsd@edvax.de> <3A9B9A2F-9BC0-4150-89FB-66E379F9D0A9@myamail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:59:26 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Fred C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:59:33 -0000 Are most of these shortcomings primarily due to the fact that FreeBSD has a single structured line of development? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 20:04:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD8E10656B9 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:04:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8678FC2D for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:04:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C546F1E12C; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:04:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n63K46YH001527; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:04:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:04:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Drew Tomlinson Message-Id: <20090703220406.d07ca7b4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4A4E5669.8070308@mykitchentable.net> References: <4A4E5669.8070308@mykitchentable.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:04:16 -0000 On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:05:13 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > Next I used bsdlabel > and created 500M a: partitions on two of the drives (ad6 & ad8). ^ There is no colon after the partition letter. The colon is used to refer (or change) to the 1st DOS diskette drive. :-) > However /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a do not exist. I do have entries such > as /dev/ad6a and/dev/ad8a but gmirror doesn't like those. What must I do > the get them to show after I've labeled? If you have /dev/ad[68]a, it indicates that you haven't created a slice on those disks, instead you created one partition (a) on each of the disks. If you are a lazy guy (as I am), then use sysinstall to create the slices and the partition. Choose "standard MBR" after the slice editor and go ahead with the partition editor. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 20:07:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14EC1065722 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CCB8FC17 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3AB41E1A3; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:07:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n63K7gst001548; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:07:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:07:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Daniel Underwood Message-Id: <20090703220741.238f032d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:07:45 -0000 On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:57:13 -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Whenever I run the particular Linux MATLAB installation I have access > to, it must be run from the command-line. Consequently, I have the > MATLAB gui and an open terminal window (which only gets in the way). > Is there a way to "hide" this terminal window completely? > If I close > it, MATLAB closes. Of course. > I know I can move it to another Workspace, but I'm > hoping there's another way. This is a function the window manager (i. e. XFCE 4) will have to do. Maybe you can do a "trick" to not have a terminal window. How about running the MATLAB program from a kind of "Start:" dialog. I know it existed in XFCE 3. Create an icon for it, and as the command line, enter the MATLAB starting command. Or does MATLAB explicitlely require to run from out of a terminal session? > I don't mind that the Terminal window opens whenever I run MATLAB, I > would just like to be able to hide it each time. Check for some kind of "minimize after start" option in XFCE 4. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 20:12:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8057C10656C2 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B518FC1A for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7AD24B35; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:12:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n63KCEl8001568; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:12:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:12:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Daniel Underwood Message-Id: <20090703221213.1b0e3f54.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20090702072125.6a3e513d.freebsd@edvax.de> <64c038660907020728q5b78fb9av1b60591716b9d733@mail.gmail.com> <20090703150148.6ba53cb1.freebsd@edvax.de> <3A9B9A2F-9BC0-4150-89FB-66E379F9D0A9@myamail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Fred C Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:12:22 -0000 On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:59:26 -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Are most of these shortcomings primarily due to the fact that FreeBSD > has a single structured line of development? In opposite to Linux, FreeBSD has the concept of a centrally maintained operating system ("the OS") and additional applications ("everything else") which means packages, ports, and 3rd party software. You can see this even through the directory hierarchy: Everything inside the /usr/local subtree is not needed for the OS (and can be removed with leaving you with a completely intact OS). The distributors of Linux choose what belongs to their distribution which does not have such a separation. Basal software, as well as additional stuff, is incorporated via some kind of packages, even the kernel can be handled that way. Of course, as you said, most Linux distribution has its own concept and line of development, separated from those of the other distributions. That creates incompatibilities and differences between the distributions. FreeBSD, on the other hand, manages to keep even binary compatibility between major OS changes. Those who develop and control the OS are programmers who put a lot emphasize on quality - and that's very important to me. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 20:16:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D461065679 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0598FC12 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:16:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MMpAm-0001TH-L9; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:16:00 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MMpAl-0001lR-Ji; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:15:52 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n63KFosx016110; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:15:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n63KFo5S016109; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:15:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:15:50 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090703201550.GA16090@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <4A4E5669.8070308@mykitchentable.net> <20090703220406.d07ca7b4.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090703220406.d07ca7b4.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Drew Tomlinson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:16:02 -0000 On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 10:04:06PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:05:13 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > > Next I used bsdlabel > > and created 500M a: partitions on two of the drives (ad6 & ad8). > ^ > There is no colon after the partition letter. The colon > is used to refer (or change) to the 1st DOS diskette drive. :-) > > > > > However /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a do not exist. I do have entries such > > as /dev/ad6a and/dev/ad8a but gmirror doesn't like those. What must I do > > the get them to show after I've labeled? > > If you have /dev/ad[68]a, it indicates that you haven't created a > slice on those disks, instead you created one partition (a) on > each of the disks. > > If you are a lazy guy (as I am), then use sysinstall to create the > slices and the partition. Choose "standard MBR" after the slice > editor and go ahead with the partition editor. why not give gpart(8) a go? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 20:26:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296881065688 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73F68FC15 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so88165bwz.43 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:26:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=isKkUcj3K2C1IlUJroEnTCae91c3zmJbUXeEOv+D6vQ=; b=i1CpCr3nIwPQcj2fqx3WcPYrU97kKFtrgJd1DkZJqoT5N2XjMvEdjc26INbKFCpw/z G5B7ZzszhPJs0n7rVEMachX8yRpA5Ytl9/Zbhpr1Ka1/RoYBCbcaByYl/EvVRA/aFOSU 61EG/bBcFKdDRSsJQKRui64MG7YSocLfI2U80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YJDXneclxyI1QuudILimhcTVcBuL8i9VYfYjnFt+5qR93xPPoq7B4ZPBJ5Q1ZrA/9/ Y6U+J/AZvjX3KQnyN19OkYSKmiYLeTOEt8yoiqwwD/Ky4quWdMC1dm9wOan4U7u0Fkr5 +BqFHywtYnBfth/bW/+2L7LL9dC36JD5TlSTY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.118.138 with SMTP id v10mr1648952bkq.40.1246652814641; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:26:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:26:54 +0000 Message-ID: <3a142e750907031326t5b6a3ff3q943deee854f65588@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Daniel Underwood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:26:56 -0000 On 7/3/09, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Whenever I run the particular Linux MATLAB installation I have access > to, it must be run from the command-line. Consequently, I have the > MATLAB gui and an open terminal window (which only gets in the way). > Is there a way to "hide" this terminal window completely? If I close > it, MATLAB closes. I know I can move it to another Workspace, but I'm > hoping there's another way. > > I don't mind that the Terminal window opens whenever I run MATLAB, I > would just like to be able to hide it each time. > > NOTE: When I say "hide", I mean simply make it not show up on the > screen. I do not mean hide the process or anything of that nature. > > TIA, > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Type this into terminal: Ctrl+Z bg Ctrl+D -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 21:08:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB06106566C for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378218FC08 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::2]) by wojteks.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n63L8HXU043412; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:08:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n63KrQPS015090; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:53:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n63KrPUU015087; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:53:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:53:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090703220406.d07ca7b4.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <4A4E5669.8070308@mykitchentable.net> <20090703220406.d07ca7b4.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Drew Tomlinson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:08:01 -0000 >> However /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a do not exist. I do have entries such >> as /dev/ad6a and/dev/ad8a but gmirror doesn't like those. What must I do >> the get them to show after I've labeled? > > If you have /dev/ad[68]a, it indicates that you haven't created a > slice on those disks, instead you created one partition (a) on > each of the disks. there is completely NO REASON to create slices at all, unless you want to use windoze on the same drive. i don't have slices on any of my FreeBSD systems From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 21:18:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BB5106566C for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE6D8FC13 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n63LIBcY008210; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:18:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n63LIBTq008207; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:18:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:18:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Daniel Underwood In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:18:11 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:18:13 -0000 On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Whenever I run the particular Linux MATLAB installation I have access > to, it must be run from the command-line. Why? More specifically, can't it be started from the XFCE menu with "Run Program" or right-click the desktop and "Create Launcher"? > Consequently, I have the MATLAB gui and an open terminal window (which > only gets in the way). Is there a way to "hide" this terminal window > completely? If I close it, MATLAB closes. I know I can move it to > another Workspace, but I'm hoping there's another way. Can't see your command line. If it's just a single command, you could run it as command & which will run command in the background and leave it running if you close the terminal window. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 21:22:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67771106564A for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f207.google.com (mail-ew0-f207.google.com [209.85.219.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6FC8FC17 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so2857935ewy.20 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:21:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pEFgx1n9A/7TcN2i12n73qqVMnR0kk2ebZEZm9g5CMw=; b=FPcUM0WkoveOLqxRyO3c5fBcVUtvT5MHENQeuptZv8PjAS+4LW2CIsi3BZgriGVCHX F6nMnbjinKVFcpPGKXRQA7PWx/cSFg4j2rNjqgwf7t+GPTP2UwjoVHe3yQR3AF86qAxa LcvAO8KHTyM5avjWvzIgnjVFHtHJ6V6WCDkMw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AVMamc8peDeHbEEfWgzl+8YgbHgWv1LpUFuCfqkL2XPuf8P2djhiy6IUH4KTtrQ658 9m/Ks0B9uwz7mjkVf+xCG2wm78imWd9WszdYKS+zthtQKmALlmz0ZO1wlmHYkUdIx7NT kD9WEKYnPhjag3VjZgco4nW6mgVHjjy7cZHSU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.21.194 with SMTP id r44mr459001wer.80.1246656118833; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:21:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:21:58 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:22:00 -0000 > Why? =A0More specifically, can't it be started from the XFCE menu with "R= un > Program" or right-click the desktop and "Create Launcher"? I don't know, honestly. Whenever I try to run it from a Launcher or via Run Program, it will display the splash screen, but then terminate. This also happens on all Linux machines I use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 22:05:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD73106564A for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtp2.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 640C08FC21 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:05:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: (qmail 1569 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2009 14:54:53 -0700 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 1563, pid: 1564, t: 2.1558s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 spam: 3.1.7-deb X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on smtp2.surewest.net. 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(VPS 090703-0, 07/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:05:01 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:05:13 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > >> Next I used bsdlabel >> and created 500M a: partitions on two of the drives (ad6 & ad8). >> > ^ > There is no colon after the partition letter. The colon > is used to refer (or change) to the 1st DOS diskette drive. :-) > I'm not sure what you mean here. I showed it as "a:" as that's how bsdlabel reports it when displaying the label 'bsdlabel ad6' for example. >> However /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a do not exist. I do have entries such >> as /dev/ad6a and/dev/ad8a but gmirror doesn't like those. What must I do >> the get them to show after I've labeled? >> > > If you have /dev/ad[68]a, it indicates that you haven't created a > slice on those disks, instead you created one partition (a) on > each of the disks. > I think this was part of my problem. For example, I did 'bsdlabel ad6' instead of 'bsdlabel ad6s1'. Now I have entries such as /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a after using 'bsdlabel -e '. However now I use 'gmirror label root /dev/ad[68]s1a' as in the guide. No error is reported at the command line but /dev/mirror/root is not created either. Any ideas? Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 22:15:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB6A1065670 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:15:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtp2.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DF758FC22 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:15:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: (qmail 4758 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2009 15:05:31 -0700 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 4753, pid: 4755, t: 1.6517s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 spam: 3.1.7-deb X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on smtp2.surewest.net. 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(VPS 090703-0, 07/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:15:39 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> However /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a do not exist. I do have entries >>> such >>> as /dev/ad6a and/dev/ad8a but gmirror doesn't like those. What must >>> I do >>> the get them to show after I've labeled? >> >> If you have /dev/ad[68]a, it indicates that you haven't created a >> slice on those disks, instead you created one partition (a) on >> each of the disks. > > there is completely NO REASON to create slices at all, unless you want > to use windoze on the same drive. > > i don't have slices on any of my FreeBSD systems I must admit I am confused by slices and partitions. I only want to use FreeBSD on this box. It has 4 drives detected as follows: ad6 - 750 GB ad8 - 500 GB ad12 - 500 GB ad14 - 500 GB My thought is to break the disks up as so: ad6 a: 500M b: 500M d: 465G e: 225G (rest of drive) ad8 a: 500M b: 500M d: 465G (rest of drive) ad12 b: 1000M d: 465G (rest of drive) ad14 b: 1000M d: 465G (rest of drive) Then to install, I want to use gmirror and zfs as so: / - mirror ad6a and ad8a swap - all the b: partitions (if that's the right term) for a total of 3 GB swap. zfs - make a raid1z zpool with ad6d, ad8d, ad12d, and ad14d. in this pool I will create /usr and /var ad6e will just be extra space for some other use. So does my plan make sense? And if so, how can I best accomplish it? Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 22:36:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F191065672 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:36:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9568FC17 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n63MaAw0008481; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:36:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n63MaAFp008478; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:36:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:36:10 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Daniel Underwood In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-902635197-606401084-1246660570=:8437" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:36:10 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:36:11 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---902635197-606401084-1246660570=:8437 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Daniel Underwood wrote: >> Why?  More specifically, can't it be started from the XFCE menu with "Run >> Program" or right-click the desktop and "Create Launcher"? > > I don't know, honestly. Whenever I try to run it from a Launcher or > via Run Program, it will display the splash screen, but then > terminate. This also happens on all Linux machines I use. Some searching suggests "matlab -desktop" may be what is needed. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ---902635197-606401084-1246660570=:8437-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 22:40:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A83106564A for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:40:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8428FC0C for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D9E3CA7D; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 00:40:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n63MegaQ002349; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 00:40:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 00:40:42 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Drew Tomlinson Message-Id: <20090704004042.81a0d51d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4A4E807D.40007@mykitchentable.net> References: <4A4E5669.8070308@mykitchentable.net> <20090703220406.d07ca7b4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A4E807D.40007@mykitchentable.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:40:50 -0000 On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:04:45 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:05:13 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > > > >> Next I used bsdlabel > >> and created 500M a: partitions on two of the drives (ad6 & ad8). > >> > > ^ > > There is no colon after the partition letter. The colon > > is used to refer (or change) to the 1st DOS diskette drive. :-) > > > > I'm not sure what you mean here. I showed it as "a:" as that's how > bsdlabel reports it when displaying the label 'bsdlabel ad6' for example. Of course you're correct: bsdlabel shows "a:". In terminology, when refering to a partition, it's usually said "partition a" or "partition ad6s1a" instead of "partition a:". The convention "a:" - "drive letters" - is very common in DOS, as well as in other "modern" MICROS~1 products. In fact, I was just joking, as when people are asking questions about a "/home folder" or "hard discs". Terminology. :-) > I think this was part of my problem. For example, I did 'bsdlabel ad6' > instead of 'bsdlabel ad6s1'. Now I have entries such as /dev/ad6s1a and > /dev/ad8s1a after using 'bsdlabel -e '. As Wojciech mentioned, the *need* to have a slice on a disk is mostly not there when you're using BSD only - there's no problem if you don't have a slice, but just one partition covering the whole disk. Then you just operate on this partition. You can even newfs the whole disk without making a partition. In this case, the c partition - "the whole disk" - is used, and you can omit the c. If you newfs ad6, you end up with a formatted ad6 partition ad6c, which is equivalent to ad6. But that's going off-topic. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 22:48:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421C41065672 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@embarqmail.com) Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com [208.47.184.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AB58FC21 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:48:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@embarqmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246660111; h=From:Subject:Date:To:Mime-Version:Content-Type; bh=GugzNC5icw5aJmXRjvBZcsydVaI=; b=Zxsg5DYxVyjStaVOGjl1rZcYXvBAYD3+RI3XeHgTNlffjgpn6gbebaIIIWIOFo+v HntUg9DhxRJ1w0d4hfvwbQTOXAt1xZJj5rUfNN73dCEdnT1cN5UqYfs8BOQn78np; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Srg5NvXmCh0A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=7uudbz8y69KKk2h9_HAA:9 a=hVgBTkYUyzGHKbYUc8l2w2U3Hi8A:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=rpratt1950@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [71.3.146.242] ([71.3.146.242:51132] helo=tv.weeeble.com) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTPA id FE/DF-14137-F068E4A4; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:28:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:28:29 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090703182829.9f0d6199.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Daniel Underwood Subject: Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:48:33 -0000 On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:21:58 -0400 Daniel Underwood wrote: > > Why? =A0More specifically, can't it be started from the XFCE menu with = "Run > > Program" or right-click the desktop and "Create Launcher"? >=20 > I don't know, honestly. Whenever I try to run it from a Launcher or > via Run Program, it will display the splash screen, but then > terminate. This also happens on all Linux machines I use. I'm not familar with MATLAB but you may find ports/sysutils/screen helpful. See http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ for more information. I use it for starting some programs in a detached mode but they can be reattached at any time. HTH, Randy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 23:04:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B8C106564A for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C8D8FC0C for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE0D3C8EC; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 01:04:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n63N4bpq002775; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 01:04:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 01:04:37 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Randy Pratt Message-Id: <20090704010437.0b190d39.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090703182829.9f0d6199.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> References: <20090703182829.9f0d6199.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Daniel Underwood Subject: Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:04:45 -0000 On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:28:29 -0400, Randy Pratt wrote: > I'm not familar with MATLAB but you may find ports/sysutils/screen > helpful. See http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ for more > information. I use it for starting some programs in a detached > mode but they can be reattached at any time. There's a tool called "detach" included in the ports. It allows you to start a process and then keep it running independent of the existence of its starting shell or your login shell. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 23:27:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2936106566C for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:27:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f213.google.com (mail-ew0-f213.google.com [209.85.219.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804EC8FC16 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:27:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so2819070ewy.43 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:27:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/UV6qL60uuAUXaWucTOciS0g8icpZMDD5js11xLHpCM=; b=hiIys0XlqswX++mfGVLouO9Y4+4TzN+Gqz/R1xLEheDIbnhwGvnFmrxQUjorZ0JigA T7huzg6O83WtAk04EEM6Y/J6KPSevY8k7778Ev2NfnWy0rPsu6t7WRXCkr+93/yGcjil i68WgAfn1dItNcHUjoxOMZ7mdbcugxpzK+EaI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ypu21ykc0krbNw7rnHl498uA8Qpd/Vufqk9cIqJXWPJJIrRvp4AQRijfJUChIc3yk7 omfORILzXltzRvmVp46rtBJUSw7mbpdkED3ZrratOGfWmKG/fICDNGIok5FWL2gV5mAe b++U0c2CgzagUFwvmG5QNSL4tktgaNTo0GjZ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.19.68 with SMTP id m46mr506550wem.7.1246663664415; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:27:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:27:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:27:46 -0000 > Some searching suggests "matlab -desktop" may be what is needed. Yep, that did it! Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 3 22:26:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD4F1065670; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:26:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015438FC14; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MMrCj-0004Sn-AT; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:26:04 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MMrCh-000309-PV; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:26:00 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n63MPxw2032504; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:25:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n63MPwkL032501; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:25:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:25:58 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Alban Hertroys Message-ID: <20090703222558.GA32365@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090625110253.GA31443@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <10FCC74D-6D46-4112-AD89-BBB4C5933957@mac.com> <20090701105649.GA62596@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090702083709.GA66827@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090703101242.GA59906@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> <1944CCC8-B2D5-4C06-B21C-FAA5A37D6EE1@solfertje.student.utwente.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1944CCC8-B2D5-4C06-B21C-FAA5A37D6EE1@solfertje.student.utwente.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.2 X-Spam-Level: - X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:00:48 +0000 Cc: Marcel Moolenaar , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Wojciech Puchar , Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: SUCCESS: Re: gmirror per partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:26:06 -0000 On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 01:18:28PM +0200, Alban Hertroys wrote: > On Jul 3, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > now to mirror root partition. > > > > My problem is that root is mounted and cannot (?) be unmounted, > > unlike /efi, > > on the live system. > > > > # gpart add -b 819234 -s 1048576 -t freebsd-ufs da1 > > da1p2 added > > # > > > > # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da0p2 > > gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/da0p2: Operation not permitted. > > # > > > > If I create gmirror on da1, the spare disk: > > > > # gmirror label -vb round-robin root /dev/da1p2 > > Metadata value stored on /dev/da0p1. > > Done. > > # > > > > so that > > > > # gmirror status > > Name Status Components > > mirror/efi COMPLETE da0p1 > > da1p1 > > mirror/root COMPLETE da1p2 > > > > # > > > > > > then I still cannot insert da0p2 > > > > > > # gmirror insert root da0p2 > > gmirror: Cannot access provider da0p2. > > # > > > > So how can I gmirror root partion on a live system? > > You're almost there... I did this a while ago, can't remember when, > but I just upgraded the system that had this from FreeBSD 6.3 of > sometime in 2006 to 7.2. > > What I believe I did from this point on was: > > Copy everything from the root partition to mirror/root. > Modify /etc/fstab to mount root on mirror/root. > Reboot. > > Now the original root partition isn't mounted anymore, so we can do > operate on it's geom stuff. > > gmirror insert root da0p2 > > That should be it. > If that doesn't work you can always boot off a live file-system CD/DVD > and perform these actions from there. You won't have man pages in that > case though, or at least I couldn't find a way to read them off the > DVD last I tried. > > One thing I'd like to warn about at this point: > If you ever upgrade to a kernel with a newer geom metadata version and > that new kernel crashes, you're left with a system where the new > kernel can't boot at all while the old kernel can't mount the root > mirror as it's now of a version it can't handle. > You can however mount a single geom provider of that root file system > (/dev/da1p2 for example) to try to fix things. > That file-system WILL be dirty, but DON'T run fsck on it or you will > destroy it's contents. That's what happened to my upgrade above... > > Thankfully it was only my root partition with hardly any data on it > and I did make level 0 dumps before the upgrade, but I needed to > restore that FS from a fixit shell without man pages. Augh! thank you, that was helpful. I think I've got it, but it's a bit more complex on ia64 because /boot is a symlink to /efi/boot, which is a separate partition. Anyway, I've got: # gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/efi COMPLETE da0p1 da1p1 mirror/root COMPLETE da0p2 da1p2 mirror/swap COMPLETE da0p3 da1p3 mirror/var COMPLETE da1p4 da0p4 mirror/tmp COMPLETE da1p5 da0p5 mirror/usr DEGRADED da1p6 da0p6 (24%) # I'll try to write up my experience and post later. thanks again -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 03:09:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DB71065670 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atheer.elobadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F098FC0C for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from atheer.elobadi@gmail.com) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2209807fxm.43 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:09:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=GNwwvcTY9lhA9qoeyiEtLEXjwhLrLUn7tuJxug4t5o8=; b=wn0GtD1N1QGVmE/7bzd2LqX4MCMY0PvY4ydBPPOmnqfBxcNX58Ny3TM3wbG05We47C qVW4G6rrE9JrzMz59DxWaE8mEBw485FKE7cEQJwYZ+F7STez1Qwus3Wg6HBc/KYq6gO3 B5ZuEWdR/r29iPpMC3d7rNmNJV1X8E37MVyI8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kc2dCr84/uceBmMFnUNX57RZU3HpdiI1VjBtz9os6aC3eCvaEqMp2pyyMrAabULIlw sLJEsMuOD5/f3mBlq5lKBNU3kmzFZJVoYWdaGxfUMO53ka/IitRrL1PYZNn+SPw8fU8N p0a/i5mpMrArjr2E5EzULQPngDAp0kFkEfSb0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.57.81 with SMTP id b17mr1870361bkh.212.1246675461123; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 04:44:21 +0200 Message-ID: <9a537e0c0907031944h66e783fdsfccc832aa9e4fa80@mail.gmail.com> From: Atheer Elobadi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: can't get atheros ar2413 to connect under freebsd 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:09:53 -0000 hello, I've been trying to set my wireless card under Freebsd 7.2-RELEASE, but no success (it worked fine on 7.0).. would appreciate some advice in /boot/loader.conf: if_ath_load="YES" wlan_tkip_load="YES" wlan_scan_ap_load="YES" wlan_scan_sta_load="YES" in: /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf: network={ ssid="Myssid" key_mgmt=WPA-PSK psk="MySharedPhrase" } and in /etc/rc.conf: ifconfig_ath0="WPA DHCP" then i run /etc/rc.d/netif start it gives up.... ** by the way.. ifconfig ath0 up scan gives nothing.. not even an error message.. what shall i do ?? thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 03:30:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0601106566C for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76DA8FC17 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A685C26 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:34:40 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4A4ECCEB.2020502@hdk5.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:30:51 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 7.2 o/s on a flash stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:30:52 -0000 Aloha Gurus. All the gogle-ing I did does not give a current status on or how-to on installing FreeBSD 7.2 on a flash stick on one slice with the default partions. I want to boot from it on a mini lap top ( no CD ) and use it like the hd inside. I see plenty of how-to's on loading Flash sticks for installing on other boxes and using a 2 slice flash to load FreeBSD onto other duplicate boxes again. All I need is to have a FreeBSD o/s on the stick so I can use it instead of the OS on the existing laptop. I'm sure I saw on this list where somebody did this successfully but I cant find it. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 03:42:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF478106564A for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:42:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0AF8FC12 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:42:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n643geLJ003489; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:42:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n643gej3003485; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:42:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:42:40 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Drew Tomlinson In-Reply-To: <4A4E82FC.3000802@mykitchentable.net> Message-ID: References: <4A4E5669.8070308@mykitchentable.net> <20090703220406.d07ca7b4.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A4E82FC.3000802@mykitchentable.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:42:40 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:42:41 -0000 On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>> However /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a do not exist. I do have entries such >>>> as /dev/ad6a and/dev/ad8a but gmirror doesn't like those. What must I do >>>> the get them to show after I've labeled? >>> >>> If you have /dev/ad[68]a, it indicates that you haven't created a >>> slice on those disks, instead you created one partition (a) on >>> each of the disks. >> >> there is completely NO REASON to create slices at all, unless you want to >> use windoze on the same drive. >> >> i don't have slices on any of my FreeBSD systems > > I must admit I am confused by slices and partitions. I only want to use > FreeBSD on this box. It has 4 drives detected as follows: > Try http://www.freebsdwiki.net/ and search for 'disk partitions' Sections on Hard Disk Partition Sizes Partitioning Tips and Tricks should be helpful. You can adapt these concepts to suit how your system is to be used and to take advantage of the hardware you have. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 04:15:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BFE106564A for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 04:15:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA2E8FC14 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 04:15:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.173.83]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:14:57 -0700 Message-ID: <4A4ED740.5020601@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:14:56 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Al Plant References: <4A4ECCEB.2020502@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: <4A4ECCEB.2020502@hdk5.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jul 2009 04:14:57.0682 (UTC) FILETIME=[FDCA4720:01C9FC5D] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.2 o/s on a flash stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:15:11 -0000 Al Plant wrote: > Aloha Gurus. > > All the gogle-ing I did does not give a current status on or how-to on > installing FreeBSD 7.2 on a flash stick on one slice with the default > partions. I want to boot from it on a mini lap top ( no CD ) and use it > like the hd inside. > > I see plenty of how-to's on loading Flash sticks for installing on other > boxes and using a 2 slice flash to load FreeBSD onto other duplicate > boxes again. > > All I need is to have a FreeBSD o/s on the stick so I can use it > instead of the OS on the existing laptop. > > I'm sure I saw on this list where somebody did this successfully but I > cant find it. > > Any help is appreciated. Thanks. > > ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 > + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + > + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + > < email: noc@hdk5.net > > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Hi Al The way i have done this in 7.0 7.1 and 7.2 is to boot off the cd1 install cd and do a normal install to my 1gb flash stick. A 1gb flash stick is to small for the default slice sizes. You will have to manually allocate the / /usr /var /swap sizes. I also found it usefully to set the boot flag when allocating the whole flash stick. A 2gb or larger flash stick allows you to take the auto-allocate option for / /usr /var /swap sizes. Keep in mind that your /var log files can fill up you flash stick real quick and lock up your system. If your running this flash stick 7/24 then rotate them more often deleting the oldest one. It's as simple as that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 04:50:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42046106566C for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 04:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f186.google.com (mail-qy0-f186.google.com [209.85.221.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5BB8FC16 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 04:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: by qyk16 with SMTP id 16so2974959qyk.3 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:50:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y9b+yvIeinDUAFzeViDbuuGLpFmvg3koH8DDMPxew5E=; b=aeg4VvCqNu0k1DSwXo0y/ndlmS5dZnGVUSSqpRv7wjZo9JP3onqN5uZijRJuaSFFKy aTWB+I12cY4GxyqcwqqzCjFntBxJkpPVbEB4nrUfa/ukL1kgU9GN/7x5ZXd8wuHRzvus TT2rqTI2QYHTO2TjxgI0olnEk89oVgk0vRYDg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=LJOwRtkWrWEGIuluxWMK4MJA1qamuPKdIQtSrFgkUeMoOJn1kRav21jac5XSt1rx3+ w8UMKa1CX+OhB4CfQ4FLHCOz7Irx9aTS1Z8eDennXF3DVzYR4GvrHxK2nzpy/ZLI2NCN FDsQixzS4bcn0PGyJogB3ZDnNHO+b9jpF9LqI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.85.4 with SMTP id m4mr1598055qcl.55.1246682618854; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:43:38 -0700 Message-ID: <26face530907032143pd3ccd8es1db753d02d3de382@mail.gmail.com> From: Kelly Jones To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: VT100 FreeBSD spreadsheet with data manipulation connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:50:12 -0000 I'm looking for a "command-line" (VT100) FreeBSD spreadsheet that has data manipulation connections. That is: other applications can edit the spreadsheet (via some API), and the spreadsheet can run commands when cells are edited. My goal: create a VT100 spreadsheet-like interface to sqlite3 (and maybe other dbs). -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 09:47:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08D01065672 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from mtah11.telenor.se (mtah11.telenor.se [62.127.194.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E2F8FC15 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from iph1.telenor.se (iph1.telenor.se [195.54.127.132]) by mtah11.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDF11527E4 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 11:39:03 +0200 (CEST) X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvN9AKS/TkpV4jsLPGdsb2JhbACBUZc4AQEBATeiUo5uglyBNgWBOg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,346,1243807200"; d="scan'208";a="26484847" Received: from c-0b3be255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.59.11]) by iph1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 04 Jul 2009 11:39:03 +0200 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n649d1LH079871 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 11:39:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <4A4F2335.6080104@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:39:01 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090630) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <4A4ECCEB.2020502@hdk5.net> <4A4ED740.5020601@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4A4ED740.5020601@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.2 o/s on a flash stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 09:47:17 -0000 Fbsd1 wrote: > Al Plant wrote: >> Aloha Gurus. >> >> All the gogle-ing I did does not give a current status on or how-to on >> installing FreeBSD 7.2 on a flash stick on one slice with the default >> partions. I want to boot from it on a mini lap top ( no CD ) and use >> it like the hd inside. >> > Hi Al > > The way i have done this in 7.0 7.1 and 7.2 is to boot off the cd1 > install cd and do a normal install to my 1gb flash stick. A 1gb flash > stick is to small for the default slice sizes. You will have to manually > allocate the / /usr /var /swap sizes. I also found it usefully to set > the boot flag when allocating the whole flash stick. A 2gb or larger > flash stick allows you to take the auto-allocate option for / /usr /var > /swap sizes. Keep in mind that your /var log files can fill up you flash > stick real quick and lock up your system. If your running this flash > stick 7/24 then rotate them more often deleting the oldest one. It's as > simple as that. I usually find it easier and faster to do this the manual way. You need the DVD iso image with the live filesystem. Boot from it and enter the fixit shell. Create one bootable slice covering the whole USB-stick: # fdisk -BI /dev/da0 Create one bootable BSD partition covering the whole slice: # bsdlabel -B -w /dev/da0s1 Create the filesystem and give it a label you can refer to in fstab: # newfs -U -L FreeBSDonUSB /dev/da0s1a Mount it: # mount /dev/da0s1a /mnt Extract at a minimum base and the generic kernel: # DESTDIR=/mnt /dist/7.2-RELEASE/base/install.sh # DESTDIR=/mnt /dist/7.2-RELEASE/kernels/install.sh generic Delete the empty default kernel directory and move the generic kernel into its place: # rmdir /mnt/boot/kernel # mv /mnt/boot/GENERIC /mnt/boot/kernel Create /etc/fstab: # echo '/dev/ufs/FreeBSDonUSB / ufs rw,noatime 1 1' > /mnt/etc/fstab Load the necessary kernel module at boot: # echo 'geom_label_load="YES"' > /mnt/boot/loader.conf Create /etc/rc.conf. Adjust and add to your own needs: # echo 'ifconfig_DEFAULT="DHCP"' > /mnt/etc/rc.conf # echo 'hostname="freebsd"' >> /mnt/etc/rc.conf # echo 'keymap="swedish.iso"' >> /mnt/etc/rc.conf # echo 'sshd_enable="YES"' >> /mnt/etc/rc.conf Set the time zone: # cp /mnt/usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Stockholm /mnt/etc/localtime Set the root password in the new environment: # chroot /mnt /bin/sh # passwd root # exit Now exit SYSINSTALL and reboot. I hope I haven't missed anything. I think geom_label is unnecessary in FreeBSD 7+ but it doesn't hurt. Also remember that the displayed time is dependent on whether your computer's CMOS clock is UTC or local time. Maybe someone has a nice trick to correct for both options. Finally some credit to the guide I learned this from: http://typo.submonkey.net/articles/2006/04/13/installing-freebsd-on-usb-stick-episode-2 I actually do all my FreeBSD installs this way nowadays but I use gmirror instead of the label. Regards Morgan Wesström From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 12:49:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A74106566C for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5EE28FC0A for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so729650eyd.3 for ; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:49:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=moKXXUArcX8LRvhkvTN2yP7szEWuQK84EiYY+LIp3Pk=; b=iOZ+m0PMmdmqDKa8hqGluPnUVkHbVbOT//7aZU5viYKhZMsUyTSQOU3in66mVknWYc KVEah0FNfsJ9oqp23EwHQfFzJ7Hu5KvGHd2Lxfq7OQctshBux2JbSzGED1VIqIA5oVQq Qn3Voer2DynpOvJ05l32dQjFb/j84rnKCOJL8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aaeuYGgdSowbT1+KdRthryh7d3qZ0VwJmIVXYqMy3pMOIMh/XPXhBb1WJZOA03YEDO JzXknaSusdab3rUdFRLhbOK7+Tlhnta+giruxKFZpTAwTyAFw7hdjcne0I1GH9EkJyVA llgdGw2E/b0yMh9lLgUBmpCJhNQgNFj8vTLGA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.19.210 with SMTP id n60mr639968wen.107.1246711721919; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:48:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <11167f520907011742yed5b160wd37441dce946d353@mail.gmail.com> References: <11167f520907011742yed5b160wd37441dce946d353@mail.gmail.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:48:20 +0100 Message-ID: To: "Sam Fourman Jr." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Daniel Underwood , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD support for 64-bit x86 systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:49:41 -0000 2009/7/2 Sam Fourman Jr. : > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Daniel Underwood wrote: >> Does FreeBSD currently support 64-bit x86 systems? > > amd64 supports both amd and intel 64bit CPU's > > right now the big limitation for me is you can not > have a Nvidia binary graphics driver on amd64 > > progress has been made on this front in the last month. > Really? Can I have a link please?? I really want to migrate... Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 12:52:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D511065693 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5A68FC14 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEABPtTkrUnw6U/2dsb2JhbADKRIQSBQ Received: from fhw-relay07.plus.net ([212.159.14.148]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 04 Jul 2009 13:52:47 +0100 Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by fhw-relay07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1MN4jX-0007Vl-2M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:52:47 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MN4jE-000LRj-Se for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:52:29 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:52:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200907041352.28788.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 3fd73e2a5d4334b8708f894542720c2e Subject: Firefox 3.5 mutex error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:52:49 -0000 I can't get firefox-3.5,1 to run on my 6.4 system. It fails with the message "Fatal error 'Recurse on a private mutex.' at line 986 in file /usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread/thr_mutex.c (errno = 13)". My ports tree was updated 2 days ago and I ran portupgrade -a afterwards. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 13:16:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE3E106566C for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:16:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miwi@bsdcrew.de) Received: from bsdcrew.de (duro.unixfreunde.de [85.214.90.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7368FC0A for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:16:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miwi@bsdcrew.de) Received: by bsdcrew.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EC6064AC61; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:59:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:59:39 +0200 From: Martin Wilke To: Mike Clarke Message-ID: <20090704125939.GA1224@bsdcrew.de> References: <200907041352.28788.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200907041352.28788.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox 3.5 mutex error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:16:12 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 01:52:28PM +0100, Mike Clarke wrote: > > I can't get firefox-3.5,1 to run on my 6.4 system. It fails with the > message "Fatal error 'Recurse on a private mutex.' at line 986 in > file /usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread/thr_mutex.c (errno = 13)". > > My ports tree was updated 2 days ago and I ran portupgrade -a > afterwards. it's a pulseaudio problem, not a ff3.5 problem :(. > > -- > Mike Clarke > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > - -- +-----------------------+-------------------------------+ | PGP : 0xB1E6FCE9 | Jabber : miwi(at)BSDCrew.de | | Skype : splash_111 | Mail : miwi(at)FreeBSD.org | +-----------------------+-------------------------------+ | Mess with the Best, Die like the Rest! | +-----------------------+-------------------------------+ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpPUjsACgkQdLJIhLHm/OnZ8QCfVOnkEOXl0fyDfPfF+/2DYvvt 6qYAn3G9gfWiBPQkw/eQiXBR1QUNtQou =cNtw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 14:49:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B421106566C for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:49:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE918FC16 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <4A4F6841.3020408@intersonic.se> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:33:37 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090502) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Annoying problem with apache22 / php5 - how to investigate? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:49:36 -0000 Hi, We run 7-STABLE and apache22 with php5 serving pages from a webmail app (Horde). Randomly (as it seems at least), there is a 500 (Internal server error) and a blank page is presented to the user like [04/Jul/2009:15:19:37 +0200] "GET /services/portal/sidebar.php?httpclient=1 HTTP/1.1" 500 - There are no other messages in the logs, not even with LogLevel debug. The problem has survived several both OS and port upgrades and I really need to track this down now. Question: What OS tools would be the best to further analyze this? Someone with more exparience running this combo perhaps would know? Thanks a lot! -- per From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 14:59:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD52A1065673 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:59:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@mi.celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9368FC0A for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:59:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D83E205C777 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 07:59:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id G5bNcC69VadD for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 07:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3361C2058AF0 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 07:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E514168009CD1; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 07:59:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id vs4Y5L4Z51eA; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 07:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id C815868009CD0; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 07:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 07:59:22 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090704145922.GA22560@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <26face530907032143pd3ccd8es1db753d02d3de382@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <26face530907032143pd3ccd8es1db753d02d3de382@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/% (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: VT100 FreeBSD spreadsheet with data manipulation connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:59:24 -0000 On Fri, Jul 03, 2009, Kelly Jones wrote: >I'm looking for a "command-line" (VT100) FreeBSD spreadsheet that has >data manipulation connections. One that I have used off and on for years is ``sc''. It's simple, and stores data in fairly simple ascii files. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them. -- Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 15:03:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA0F106564A for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 15:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtp1.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CF848FC08 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 15:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: (qmail 5740 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2009 08:24:07 -0700 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 5734, pid: 5735, t: 2.1703s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 spam: 3.1.7-deb X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on smtp1.surewest.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=10.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7-deb X-Spam-CMAE-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jDt-9pEAAAAA:8 a=topfwHmAZV6ju2vzgYoA:9 a=SwruqXL1z7yEPTQrPjXURnDJ4j4A:4 Received: from unknown (HELO blacklamb.mykitchentable.net) (69.62.230.77) by smtp1 with SMTP; 4 Jul 2009 08:24:05 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8BC0C165C8F for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 08:03:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=mykitchentable.net; s=default; t=1246719797; bh=mQWG1tLK5UxnVKrvnfw3MK1BhanG6aNONm4J3FXPso0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lBcwttTHlBSKo2v2wo7ozHTOQLd/CnS/C+ePgKyzE4w46FFM5gV5FVHiu44HI7dsD RBfrWF/T4hFtoNpqoazdUl/5QI4ej78bp0BZCV/BNgGfS/d/xfaxZN/UIPK5n3ngyJ o3aMqkraDtyhFLqg2OGq5VRkfj37iob6IFEoiCm0= Message-ID: <4A4F6F28.5090508@mykitchentable.net> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:03:04 -0700 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090703-0, 07/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: FixIt CD Tool Availability X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:03:22 -0000 I've booted from 7.2-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso and am trying to use gmirror and zfs. The command 'gmirror label root ad8a ad6a' does not return an error but no device is created in /dev/mirror The command 'zpool create data raid1z ad14d ad12d ad8d ad6d' gives me an error about the ZFS library being unavailable. Are these tools supposed to work when using the Fix It CD? If not, does 7.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso have these tools? Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 15:44:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450CB1065670 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 15:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F16038FC1A for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 15:44:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 38400 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jul 2009 15:17:48 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246720668; bh=IOx8dVuw/Qocj6TqFoyAZ9qzouHh8sfSqlF+oPMD+yo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jooI+jF8bxvlkRyoK57caAx90lXILZ9Q+1JFXir8lmB1lwm7MhYmb3wlsXDx4maY2n+f8xOHNUztiqph09qEua+RRYyJPWxBINLhcrq6LBZ248ucDl4qZ6Qeg6Xqk15WEeJyjG9U8KVn5xMy23Akwzt/Cv2LlacYbsx5M7BOceE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zZEHNnydbP27AjZUhvaJMgk6q9D4RDIcOFI+JYGSV7jpb9K9AoING9k/PceOgEheAFKErC6rwPPbPxhzgGG5R1cD/kpGrc6Pm2hQzBiQMzsxGU+tOfKG9rdiTOZj3DqJqxLloKQV5LRlRxf0mR6A17NLPczu/N+/wnmcCqcJeBo=; Message-ID: <414333.33809.qm@web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Vxkgj60VM1lruAOygpyY7lZ1kYNV.mcOHPQQZ6UQrTB8XFQVHHjRvqJr6OhaHXIIXwZDpRmbOhwAaq9dAttwl83yQWZ9JZoyBzlET.andxOojCw8cYgoBvsqbgxCnI1RbWOu1P6zhVY_2kxyAJXy4jvBsqbaPUSfD9Bq8O7K6vpNhyVFCdiQnTF2c2_Tq8Z__1psmSjTFPsWREI8ZES7ymW5qF0bpoxE1zf_lJJPvM8qDApJmPULb4PB7hEZ7QIe5h0S.6fY3bOK7gcvOaPd8RdoPndxPz_3dEJkmGHNPsPID6a4IwzzlMyWQ1DLRjusGBp4kahzZQssBBhDCe5yFKsm3lS4HFLfgSZlph1x5qGG4UI3dtyFyB7aQcHYMdvcNrE- Received: from [201.231.61.15] by web35603.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:17:48 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1357.22 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 08:17:48 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: X Terminals problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:44:29 -0000 In my newly installed 7.2-STABLE, any X Terminal (xterm, xfce's Terminal, e= term,...) is working in the wrong way, specially while I use vim (v. 7.2.20= 9) in text mode (gvim works ok), it can't scroll, when I try to move the cu= rsor after the last line on the screen, the status bar shows that the posit= ion is changing, but the screen doesn't scrolls.=0A=0AAnother issue is if I= write a long line in the X terminal, instead of adding a LF at the end and= continuing in the next line, it starts at the beginning of the same line.= =0A=0AMy system's data:=0A=0Auname -a: =0AFreeBSD inspiron.local 7.2-RELEAS= E FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 08:49:13 UTC 2009 root@walker.cse.= buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386=0A=0AXorg -version:=0AX.Org = X Server 1.6.0=0ARelease Date: 2009-2-25=0AX Protocol Version 11, Revision = 0=0ABuild Operating System: FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE i386 =0A=0Aenv:=0ASSH_AG= ENT_PID=3D1128=0AGLADE_PIXMAP_PATH=3D:=0ATERM=3Dxterm=0ASHELL=3D/bin/bash= =0AWINDOWID=3D25165828=0AUSER=3Dmartin=0AGLADE_MODULE_PATH=3D:=0ASSH_AUTH_S= OCK=3D/tmp/ssh-DCZmP4l6vx/agent.1127=0ASESSION_MANAGER=3Dlocal/inspiron.loc= al:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1136,inet6/inspiron.local:54435,inet/inspiron.local:54631= =0APAGER=3D/usr/bin/less=0AFTP_PASSIVE_MODE=3DYES=0AMAIL=3D/var/mail/martin= =0APATH=3D/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/loc= al/bin:/home/martin/bin=0ABLOCKSIZE=3DK=0APWD=3D/usr/home/martin/doc=0AEDIT= OR=3D/usr/local/bin/vim=0ASHLVL=3D1=0AHOME=3D/home/martin=0AGTK_PATH=3D:/us= r/local/lib/gtk-2.0=0ALOGNAME=3Dmartin=0AXDG_DATA_DIRS=3D/usr/share:/usr/lo= cal/share=0ADBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=3Dunix:path=3D/var/tmp/dbus-g7d508SA96= ,guid=3D4488a97081aa02f88f1101ab4a4f700b=0AWINDOWPATH=3D9=0ADISPLAY=3D:0.0= =0AGLADE_CATALOG_PATH=3D:=0ALIBGLADE_MODULE_PATH=3D:/usr/local/lib/libglade= /2.0=0ACOLORTERM=3DTerminal=0A_=3D/usr/bin/env=0AOLDPWD=3D/usr/home/martin= =0A=0A=0ADoes anyone faced the same problems?, any workaround?.=0A=0A Leona= rdo M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.blogspot.com=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 17:25:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85474106564A for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:25:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2321E8FC0A for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:25:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.76] (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4A23ECF802626E01 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 18:25:41 +0100 Message-ID: <4A4F9095.2060705@onetel.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:25:41 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4A0F457F.6010606@onetel.com> <4A106E2E.9040807@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <4A106E2E.9040807@onetel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting... for xpt_config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:25:43 -0000 Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Chris Whitehouse wrote: > >> I'm trying to install on a new motherboard ASUS M3N78-EM. While booting >> from CD I'm getting >> >> run_interrupts_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config >> >> This is repeated a few times then installation stops and the machine >> stops responding. >> > > After some trial and error the problem seems to be device sbp in the > kernel config file. Comment that out and rebuild kernel and it boots. The blinding obvious workaround is to disbable firewire in the BIOS doh! Then I can boot from CD and install to hard disk, boot from hard disk and build a custom kernel without device sbp, reboot and enable firewire again. I can _even_ kldload sbp I discover. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=136327 Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 17:26:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16B5106568C for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9A68FC3A for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.76] (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4A20329602736194; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 18:26:11 +0100 Message-ID: <4A4F90B2.4020006@onetel.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:26:10 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090321) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi References: <4A4BD7E1.8010204@onetel.com> <1246489693.68114.23.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1246489693.68114.23.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: load kernel from different media X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:26:15 -0000 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Em Qua, 2009-07-01 Ă s 22:40 +0100, Chris Whitehouse escreveu: > > > Yes you can. > put your kernel (the one that works) on a DVD/CD > assume that your rootfs on the HD is on ad0s1a, /usr is on /dev/ad0s1e > with all the /boot directory. > than boot from dvd/CD > with the HD on the machine too. > > on the startup, hit 6 (number 6). > than type: > set vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:ad0s1a" > boot -s > ==================== > the machine will boot from the CD (with the kernel on the CD) > than will mount the filesystem / (root) using ufs and the > device /dev/ad0s1a > once boot, you can mount the / rw..... > mount -o rw /dev/ad0s1a /mnt > mount /dev/ad0s1e /usr > > than..... > export PATH=/mnt/sbin:/mnt/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin > mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom > cd /cdrom > tar cf - boot | tar -xpvf - -C /mnt > =============== > edit /mnt/fstab to match the /(root) fs ..... > ==============fstab========= > /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 > ===================== > fastboot > the machine will reboot and boot happy on the hd.... > > hope it can help > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi sergio thanks for your reply. I've been playing around with bootable pen drives cd's and hard disks with varying degrees of breakage :) however now i"ve found the workaround for the original problem which is simply to disable firewire in the BIOS. cheers Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 18:34:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67898106566C for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 18:34:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnpollock@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [204.127.217.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DBC8FC0A for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 18:34:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnpollock@bellsouth.net) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (adsl-065-013-022-129.sip.asm.bellsouth.net[65.13.22.129]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20090704182129H01009katqe>; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 18:21:29 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.13.22.129] From: John Pollock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:26:09 -0400 Message-Id: <1246731969.4452.12.camel@ice.rarepenguin.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ifconfig & routing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:34:07 -0000 Greets, Here's my delemma - Im running FreeBSD 7.1 - that was setup with its normal host area and added via ezjail (2) jails. Out of jail #2, I run a IRCD for a local christian group. I also installed a old-school BBS in jail #2, and it works great, connects and works fine. But, since I wish to run a few old DOS programs that are DOORS. It recommends I install it where it can reach "X", the windows server. Then I'll have a shot at utilizing doscmd to get them to work. No matter how many times I install and reinstall it it fires up, but cant seem to access it via telnet either locally or from outside my computer via telnet. For further info, my system setup is the internet goes through my DSL/ROUTER set in BRIDGE MODE, to my DLINK wireless router. My jail #2 is set to PRIVATE IP 192.168.0.103 - jail #1 set to 192.168.0.102 and host part of computer set to 192.168.0.100. Any help suggestions greatly appreciated. JP =========== netstat -rn results below: $ netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 192.168.0.1 UGS 0 3082 vr0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 192.168.0.0/24 link#1 UC 0 0 vr0 192.168.0.1 00:0d:88:9f:e2:5f UHLW 2 986 vr0 1102 192.168.0.100 00:0e:a6:a0:db:24 UHLW 1 4 lo0 192.168.0.102 00:0e:a6:a0:db:24 UHLW 1 12 lo0 192.168.0.103 00:0e:a6:a0:db:24 UHLW 1 57562 lo0 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::1 ::1 UHL lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 fe80::1%lo0 U lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#3 UHL lo0 ff01:3::/32 fe80::1%lo0 UC lo0 ff02::%lo0/32 fe80::1%lo0 UC lo0 =================================== ifconfig results below: $ ifconfig vr0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=2808 ether 00:0e:a6:a0:db:24 inet 192.168.0.100 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet 192.168.0.103 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet 192.168.0.102 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=108810 metric 0 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 19:31:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FC71065675 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B024B8FC15 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:31:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id n64J6rxa017426 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:06:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 166 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7269E89D70 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:06:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id 5B9B513D; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:06:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:06:52 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090704190652.GA44670@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9538/Fri Jul 3 16:27:11 2009 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 4A4FA84D.006 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4A4FA84D.006/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 4A4FA84D.006 on shiva.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.007 -> S=0.007 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Subject: FixIt CD Tool Availability X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:31:13 -0000 Drew Tomlinson wrote: > The command 'gmirror label root ad8a ad6a' does not return an error but > no device is created in /dev/mirror > > The command 'zpool create data raid1z ad14d ad12d ad8d ad6d' gives me > an error about the ZFS library being unavailable. > > Are these tools supposed to work when using the Fix It CD? If not, does > 7.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso have these tools? One can load kernel modules from the fixit cdrom, but as far as i remember this requires some manipulations. What i do is, from the fixit prompt: chroot /mnt2 to go to the full system available on the cdrom under /mnt2. But then required things are missing, so i do further: mount -t devfs devfs /dev because access to /dev is frequently required, and for commodity set -o emacs (to have shell history and editing) export PAGER=more (to be able to access man pages) After that one has a more or less standard environment. Sometimes one needs a writable filesystem, for example for accessing internet (dhclient, resolv.conf, etc.) mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /tmp does that. It would be nice to have a shell script on the fixit cdrom doing similar things automatically when one accesses fixit. In your case i suspect appropriate kernel modules were not loaded and commands failed silently. -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 20:13:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A366D1065670 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bferrell@baywinds.org) Received: from baywinds.org (dsl092-017-098.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AE48FC14 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:13:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bferrell@baywinds.org) Received: from [66.92.17.195] (spa3000 [66.92.17.195]) by baywinds.org (8.13.6/8.13.6/SuSE Linux 0.8) with ESMTP id n64KDKLO002393; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:13:23 -0700 Message-ID: <4A4FB7E0.3040809@baywinds.org> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:13:20 -0700 From: Bruce Ferrell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090310) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per olof Ljungmark References: <4A4F6841.3020408@intersonic.se> In-Reply-To: <4A4F6841.3020408@intersonic.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Annoying problem with apache22 / php5 - how to investigate? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:13:25 -0000 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Hi, > > We run 7-STABLE and apache22 with php5 serving pages from a webmail app > (Horde). > > Randomly (as it seems at least), there is a 500 (Internal server error) > and a blank page is presented to the user like > > [04/Jul/2009:15:19:37 +0200] "GET > /services/portal/sidebar.php?httpclient=1 HTTP/1.1" 500 - > > There are no other messages in the logs, not even with LogLevel debug. > The problem has survived several both OS and port upgrades and I really > need to track this down now. > > Question: What OS tools would be the best to further analyze this? > Someone with more exparience running this combo perhaps would know? > > Thanks a lot! > > -- > per I'd look in the Apache error_log From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 20:19:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1F41065673 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:19:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebotados@exemys.com) Received: from server2.hostmailing.com (server2.hostmailing.com [200.110.145.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901EC8FC1C for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rebotados@exemys.com) Received: from web.hostmailing.com ([200.110.145.34] helo=www.hostmailing.com) by server2.hostmailing.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1MNAvf-0003sf-Cz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:29:43 -0300 Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:17:24 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Exemys Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: wh4535 [version 3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: WiFi + Inputs and Outputs (Digital and Analog) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: exemys@exemys.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:19:09 -0000 This is a message in multipart MIME format. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 22:43:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E45A1065673; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 22:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonyrieser@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81B78FC12; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 22:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonyrieser@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so1402046and.13 for ; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:43:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rP28Vx2CdxNg1oN1KtEzGXWRhvaIIjMpw88a6xzVI0k=; b=hklhnfm9+gJdjFWMoiXtco8UPfPZ1kOuOPFHTXsuxRGvBEHkGpVnhmNjo35wvo0B05 zLGFupxGzOoTxCaD5ilccHFuLCiyczVmiKnsf9HgYEmFroxROc1Vt8q3yTtRIPw2zNqO BFrN1BjGWI/v+qEtdTaev03IJBNQPIoLmqUyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=P6ZEELhOF7d/boJy/F5Ftop1rEAFfnJP08p6+/tJyyctbWlNDw8MNN2yiShawgXWx5 cxfgMFPtPPLyZvyjcuOG1FTcR1Jjj89HsY7al2PEiBf34PtIEK+/7bAAd8hMK0sCPtF8 w0z4uKhDQXyf9Pryt417M4X2biUw6EeKKyQpQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.178.9 with SMTP id a9mr5186063anf.11.1246745553908; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 22:12:33 +0000 Message-ID: <58a2fd890907041512h215b1de6r94e8f4afea28ede8@mail.gmail.com> From: Antonio Rieser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Webcam problem - pwc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:43:58 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to get a Logitech QuickCam Notebook to work with FreeBSD 7.1 on an Acer Aspire 1680 laptop. I installed the pwcbsd port, but when I run pwcview -d /dev/ugen0 (where the camera is), I get the error: Failed to get current picture info: Invalid Argument. Does anyone have any ideas? The dmesg line relative to the camera is ugen0: on uhub1 Thanks in advance, and all the best, Tony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 23:02:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90931065675 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-144.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-144.bluehost.com [67.222.38.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7C728FC1B for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 24119 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jul 2009 23:02:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Jul 2009 23:02:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=M3YfwPVXnLCBqfNEJfAwJ8+81yivyw7OgQSuoNaFvO58vXvJKIHcW+XXM0tr5p0pjCdQwTxaBp14vVCv+DspVRqqLcLjPzQulNCSAvWhEIyX+LBALXKfZDlFprVRz5tV; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MNEFV-0004iH-WC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:02:26 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 4 Jul 2009 16:56:15 -0600 Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 16:56:15 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090704225615.GB29316@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <87y6r8x6xl.fsf@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uZ3hkaAS1mZxFaxD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87y6r8x6xl.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:02:27 -0000 --uZ3hkaAS1mZxFaxD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 03:30:30AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:58:15 -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > > QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you > > prefer? and why? > > > > I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux > > distributions from FreeBSD fans. >=20 > Debian is the one I can almost tolerate. Ditto. I've been through dozens of Linux distributions, and Debian is still my favorite. I am *not* talking about Ubuntu, mind you -- that's not really Debian any longer. Much of what I like most about Debian was screwed gently with a chainsaw by the Ubuntu team. Of course, that's only "almost tolerate", as you said. Even Debian annoys the crap out of me, now that I've gotten familiar enough with FreeBSD to realize what I was missing. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Olin Shivers: "I object to doing things that computers can do." --uZ3hkaAS1mZxFaxD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpP3g8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWn7ACfcuhJCkcDkpkbTdQzgGztUoP8 350AoOF3OJgM9NeFpXlHQNpkpbxiSV2t =MSk2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uZ3hkaAS1mZxFaxD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 23:05:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E452C10656C9 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C198FC13 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <4A4FE025.5070100@intersonic.se> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:05:09 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090502) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Ferrell References: <4A4F6841.3020408@intersonic.se> <4A4FB7E0.3040809@baywinds.org> In-Reply-To: <4A4FB7E0.3040809@baywinds.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Annoying problem with apache22 / php5 - how to investigate? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:05:14 -0000 Bruce Ferrell wrote: > > Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >> Hi, >> >> We run 7-STABLE and apache22 with php5 serving pages from a webmail app >> (Horde). >> >> Randomly (as it seems at least), there is a 500 (Internal server error) >> and a blank page is presented to the user like >> >> [04/Jul/2009:15:19:37 +0200] "GET >> /services/portal/sidebar.php?httpclient=1 HTTP/1.1" 500 - >> >> There are no other messages in the logs, not even with LogLevel debug. >> The problem has survived several both OS and port upgrades and I really >> need to track this down now. >> >> Question: What OS tools would be the best to further analyze this? >> Someone with more exparience running this combo perhaps would know? >> >> Thanks a lot! >> >> -- >> per > > I'd look in the Apache error_log > I've looked, as stated above. Even with LogLevel debug there is not a trace. Likewise, I have E_ALL set in php.ini. So, I need to dig deeper inte the workings of Apache with the aid of the right tools. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 4 23:10:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBA2106564A for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3954B8FC0C for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAA1509E6 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 00:10:09 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OUBgMPxAdVVJ for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 00:10:02 +0100 (BST) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EED2D509E1; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 00:10:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090704231001.EED2D509E1@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 00:10:01 +0100 (BST) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2009-07-04 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:10:11 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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It fails with the > message "Fatal error 'Recurse on a private mutex.' at line 986 in > file /usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread/thr_mutex.c (errno = 13)". > > My ports tree was updated 2 days ago and I ran portupgrade -a > afterwards. BTW, just installed it. Seems to work great! First, updated everything FF35 depends on. You can check the dependencies: # portversion -vR firefox-3.5,1 Make sure You do # portsdb -U before 'portversion' and after you have downloaded new ports. Greetings! O.K. 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(ip193-123-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl [87.210.123.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm4994235eyz.1.2009.07.04.16.37.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:37:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Roy Stuivenberg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:36:33 +0200 Message-Id: <1246750593.4447.6.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sysctl gnome2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:37:05 -0000 Hello, Sometimes when I send a message with pidgin, or evolution, the application shuts down. Is there an option with sysctl, that would prevent this to happen? I'm running FreeBSD 7.2 stable - gnome2 Regards, Roy.