From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 00:45:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EF8106568C for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd4michelle@tamay-dogan.net) Received: from webmail.codefoundry.com (webmail.codefoundry.com [62.231.42.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8E58FC60 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.private.tamay-dogan.net ([::ffff:82.113.106.155]) (AUTH: CRAM-SHA256 konzack.michelle.tamay-catchall@codefoundry.com) by webmail.codefoundry.com with esmtp; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 01:52:34 +0100 id 002B04B0.4A875856.00006581 Received: from michelle1.private.tamay-dogan.net (michelle1.private.tamay-dogan.net [::ffff:192.168.0.91]) by mail.private.tamay-dogan.net with esmtp; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:45:19 +0200 id 0002BF6B.4A87569F.00001D57 Received: by michelle1.private.tamay-dogan.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:39:38 +0200 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:39:38 +0200 From: Michelle Konzack To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090816003938.GC8898@tamay-dogan.net> References: <20090815234920.GA9094@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090815234920.GA9094@thought.org> X-Message-Flag: Improper configuration of Outlook is a breeding ground for viruses. Please take care your Client is configured correctly. Greetings Michelle. X-Disclaimer-DE: Eine weitere Verwendung oder die Veroeffentlichung dieser Mail oder dieser Mailadresse ist nur mit der Einwilligung des Autors gestattet. Organization: Tamay Dogan Network X-Operating-System: Linux michelle1 2.6.26-1-686 X-Uptime: 19:45:10 up 42 days, 21:15, 16 users, load average: 0.87, 0.94, 0.88 X-Homepage: http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: script to send out a dozen letters? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:45:49 -0000 Am 2009-08-15 16:49:24, schrieb Gary Kline: > i forget if the inside address is before the recipient > address--I *think* so. is there a way of having date output > the format "15 August, 2009" rather than my usual, 15aug09? date "+%d %B %Y" Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ##################### Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 50, rue de Soultz Jabber linux4michelle@jabber.ccc.de 67100 Strabourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) Tel. DE: +49 177 9351947 ICQ #328449886 Tel. FR: +33 6 61925193 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 00:58:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66463106568E for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:58:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B298FC4B for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so2982090yxe.3 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:58:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RhAG08zlhUrQDkAiDo81W0cFt5RJk6VJ7FuxOOGk3VY=; b=gZ0Q3sAOaAVdNleWN6wU3+LG/ccRDDT2IbLe/5Q2xkAXDXU1khJznyZ7mRMPULVYC9 imbTN97YLy2HdJPcg2hriDZwDM0thiTo5G9JWR1+DNec0sEZbPjuTVDDp1q12qrRwRjr L01NkJogb+ThNT6rE8b1iWpUIzxphUl7qOLNc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=J2P6j3C6rnhCD3j4HOU7A8nDDZDtBcWTLMLRbQ4hUbx3DPD2jabuPASWmuvGvZA2GR mWwrPh+aIqH/6gp/HYRTBvNlH+d4NFJ7LIZKlc7MCFyS1j50HkfIOW6obpQN0y7lYtR8 UUd9TUNMYQmSm5mgARdAYn5UTZv/7zn0aehfs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.88.1 with SMTP id q1mr2570732anl.177.1250384301028; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:58:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A8568F6.90109@gmail.com> References: <4A855B91.1010707@gmail.com> <1250268543.2306.111.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> <4A8568F6.90109@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:58:20 +0000 Message-ID: From: Eitan Adler To: seklecki@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bwi driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:58:22 -0000 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > >> You really should post the full pciconf(8) and dmesg(8) for us, as well >> as kldstat(8) -v. I sent an email previously which may have been caught by some spam filters as having too many links so I'm resending this. The links include dmesg, kldstat -v, and pciconf -lv https://groups.google.com/group/lucky.freebsd.questions/msg/4cd06e29318614ce > -- > Eitan Adler > "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." > -Jakob Nielsen > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 01:21:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76205106568B for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 01:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1748FC57 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 01:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so778308qwe.7 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:21:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:openpgp :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=17+GYcp/Bagwa90jDilhpF8TzmV7oMgEnui+Hj+TnW0=; b=V/vODnC2DRst0iCjACLFfkFP9R1TwyY1h88dryR4O9Pvaod+RuSI5cT1iVK3yQTfCU MVBljlmR/vAPgNBhamNF9RrZyIPMHkKeD6KyweEukovRwQhyDAslbGG2RBGdnvmZDbci Lj1V/fFIJSjyLsdpvy2/J1y3SBZYwnlJS+2+E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BCAWGKQnawqqfUlJBAyX6nk2YAnv3m8sMelt6LG41uTxuM0CYPC/scHyluo3UX/2CU ZpKVBGJR6yhMdehAZaTEL4m94O4SM0h9yU6eK3S+eVEYHeZ6wEH1nf6mS9SI2XaMsdzm QX53I5cjI3xwdmUpZm71DViXTmsWe8aNtrVtE= Received: by 10.224.70.202 with SMTP id e10mr3364681qaj.16.1250383951358; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm6157439qwd.8.2009.08.15.17.52.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A872070.8060102@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:54:08 +0000 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: mouse not working - X or console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 01:21:15 -0000 On my Lenovo G530 the mouse does not work in X or with moused. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146534 for laptop specs. My laptop's dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/f7500570e AllowEmptyInput is on. The keyboard is not frozen in X as I am able to get to the other VTYs. (mouse+X+ -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 02:44:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29421065746 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DC28FC66 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so3018647yxe.3 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:44:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VaG1MFwUYftK/x8FE4JeKoXZFmMAent8fEBirlMribc=; b=f4XEpkPsJzotDksLlHgANiYWFmCmjCyMNv4pr5NM/CGIeAYUHxqM6OMZEdiz9f9FIU 3eQS1iBGddpw0ueB9xkgFq2k/NP2iJN1XDn1jTYihfwL2SAs0kQ5B0OiT5chf2P6Jsz6 Ms0N/4geX1HDDm3dOa1vikX0p44TOoK4RPzHM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=pslEbxaMuopQqKOlkmowNIZPaveESYA5aynPysfFv6Lm5rFKg/fCLuY1XzzmbDSd/N 218LHu3iP5/0grfz/EqMmuolzkCVLevAr+R9CfAC76Pk40iGsaqnBnzlt3B3Vw2eBb9o 6GcWZgQQs6G/80j8Q0rH9dTPbxp1fV+3JYbIo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.142.5 with SMTP id u5mr4037373ybn.177.1250390645852; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:44:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A872070.8060102@gmail.com> References: <4A872070.8060102@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:44:05 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908151944t8f1d43kefb46661a8ff88eb@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mouse not working - X or console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:44:07 -0000 On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > On my Lenovo G530 the mouse does not work in X or with moused. > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146534 for > laptop specs. > My laptop's dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/f7500570e > AllowEmptyInput is on. > The keyboard is not frozen in X as I am able to get to the other VTYs. > > (mouse+X+ > > -- > Eitan Adler > > Do you have moused_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? Do you have xorg drivers installed for kb and mouse? eg xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2_2 xf86-input-mouse-1.4.0_6 -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 03:07:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A98106568B for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8AB8FC4D for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so3353725ywh.28 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:07:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vjGUdJR12QU3ImnIOCs5YOvD6s/I2hVN3qQ2tnK1WTM=; b=RgTGbyl3fqW841pMNsYOSY1NYTJvHGAJOwbSP2GUueJGVpwENhdv5rsT2FeocsmLJy XyfqlX0j3PAMGbEclVncgY9TUXZQW+as4BvD9pf7XFnKi2os/Hz2zfrW8Hj0suVMABwf q6lgR/1Qhx17wZuxazHodGUwsmbLNv13i3LII= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Zfqoxz1OMSDxPzLKVcdQI12BWk9HjjLhn4Hah1fkkTdNUQ81f+h0/DMYT0PIZ+6Dqc +QCguNsCG77V8rNkIoJYZrqaZIVqG7/VFlLhs7q6ojbiKaMipTST7W1hTtEQrw9aTLXU a4fTRNOk4nZdtBfRkPAAnrT9EnW3LB3HwgD4s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.58.7 with SMTP id g7mr3979781yba.271.1250392035956; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:07:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090815234920.GA9094@thought.org> References: <20090815234920.GA9094@thought.org> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:07:15 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908152007o5d0e3778w3aba9869018fa9cf@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: script to send out a dozen letters? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:07:18 -0000 On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > if there are tools to do this, please point me at them, but i > want to send out a snail and/or email|HTML|whatever to a handful > of companies that i hope to find online. > > I'm guessing the inside address would me something like > > Company Name > Address > Company Email > > Attn Mr. Smith: > > [my canned letter] > > > i forget if the inside address is before the recipient > address--I *think* so. is there a way of having date output > the format "15 August, 2009" rather than my usual, 15aug09? > > I am pretty sure these people are most accustomed to GUI/html > mail, so is there a way of invoking evo with html capability? > > if there are web pointers on this, puleeze clue me in! > > thanks much, > > gary > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > Not entirely clear on you goal here, but if this is a repetitive thing any of the major scripting lang Perl,PHP,Python etc is easily up to the task. Otherwise OpenOffice merge works great too once you get the hang of it. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 03:50:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F411E106568E for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B635A8FC41 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.47.0.250] (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7G3ohku027236; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:50:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: Michelle Konzack In-Reply-To: <20090816003938.GC8898@tamay-dogan.net> References: <20090815234920.GA9094@thought.org> <20090816003938.GC8898@tamay-dogan.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Thought Unlimited Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:50:47 -0700 Message-Id: <1250394647.37380.6.camel@tao.thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: script to send out a dozen letters? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kline@thought.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:50:53 -0000 On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 02:39 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2009-08-15 16:49:24, schrieb Gary Kline: > > i forget if the inside address is before the recipient > > address--I *think* so. is there a way of having date output > > the format "15 August, 2009" rather than my usual, 15aug09? > > date "+%d %B %Y" Yup! super, dank, gary > > Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening > Michelle Konzack > Systemadministrator > Tamay Dogan Network > Debian GNU/Linux Consultant > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 04:04:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103F6106568C for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51DB8FC41 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so1815101qyk.3 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:04:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x8+a8y10ECOk9LcOkapIqxs95aQxHA7l/9jiOC0FEg4=; b=PDNUb6TlPEealFFJXljFS7Va9zFhaVSxXd2D0hW9UTYpXue8BLsAIlQAtLcG1sBMNG h2VL3wUhXzBDveMW1GIAfW7K01njoD4Ztw4nrVUvMId/iJ/5SuO/8DHVmsupk9RyIFg3 YY+zs4//0RBKC52aTEB5XMBfskdIKYNjr+dZ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=jBK3LnZFHpDoIZjIlJCj4E2TuHAalZk+yHl7VLM8xMLSXgzsfGnB3n/yXl7Kfzn3lW zXcnucfS3nZx22Do2jqzmc/0Iic5HFDhm7tSc3BhlUkna/I8UyijHUtwdoHz52Dxcaa1 7JwDm9mkInitL3WzuoARHVCNV0TmAmTLRib+k= Received: by 10.224.82.202 with SMTP id c10mr3411538qal.173.1250395468151; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm1637497qwf.27.2009.08.15.21.04.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A874D6D.3040908@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:06:05 +0000 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amvandemore@gmail.com References: <4A872070.8060102@gmail.com> <6201873e0908151944t8f1d43kefb46661a8ff88eb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0908151944t8f1d43kefb46661a8ff88eb@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mouse not working - X or console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:04:29 -0000 > Do you have > > moused_enable="YES" > > in /etc/rc.conf? > > Do you have xorg drivers installed for kb and mouse? > > eg > > xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2_2 > xf86-input-mouse-1.4.0_6 > After some work on IRC I got to the following: I have X compiled WITH hald. dbus and hald are enabled and running All relevant drivers are installed. /dev/sysmouse exists. The mouse works for a tiny bit and then fails. Its a laptop mouse - but it might be connected to the USB bus; 8.0 has better support for USB so I'm running freebsd-update currently to determine if it fixes the problem. -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 04:08:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FE11065690 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FFB8FC4B for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so3044935yxe.3 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=w/DVka3cTjW712N5hOFquDZdnl6DMY/ubQkEqzaqJFs=; b=dCuxVl51LuXZeazSlUKim4bkEsT+Id5noJYgjfmpQyj9GeiJUHMjOy6vRxmTRTwIFi 0zUVd68kj5hP5y3gcPdxqWd13Fx9AVSEDXGClq36LLi11Ofpa9Qp3JOjKK5NQVoRvmcW 7NQJ1rrG3836bfrROD5noY1uAd2zg69E2Gte4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=viPCHPKoPnrLPnCt4IXTRSHEbmDJyBvwWmCjXO3xMmN1KbEXqJ0Qquz15hHdaLAqyF mjfvHgu99IHWEgTyz75gvRmjcCn3FWryLkGtg0Az8T8HRN2Ucds3nze29uf2jhny3enK Nx90z06m4IU5YIMCqksT2IGOfou94B/3fVnVo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.21.19 with SMTP id y19mr4011242ybi.202.1250395721327; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A874D6D.3040908@gmail.com> References: <4A872070.8060102@gmail.com> <6201873e0908151944t8f1d43kefb46661a8ff88eb@mail.gmail.com> <4A874D6D.3040908@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:08:41 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908152108u31f807e5yba3972b63ab3e6b2@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mouse not working - X or console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:08:42 -0000 On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > > Do you have > > > > moused_enable="YES" > > > > in /etc/rc.conf? > > > > Do you have xorg drivers installed for kb and mouse? > > > > eg > > > > xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2_2 > > xf86-input-mouse-1.4.0_6 > > > > After some work on IRC I got to the following: > I have X compiled WITH hald. > dbus and hald are enabled and running > All relevant drivers are installed. > /dev/sysmouse exists. > > The mouse works for a tiny bit and then fails. > > Its a laptop mouse - but it might be connected to the USB bus; 8.0 has > better support for USB so I'm running freebsd-update currently to > determine if it fixes the problem. > > -- > Eitan Adler > > /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be help as well. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 04:09:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21649106568C for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B568FC57 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7G49foZ027425; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:09:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:09:45 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Adam Vande More Message-ID: <20090816040944.GA51282@thought.org> References: <20090815234920.GA9094@thought.org> <6201873e0908152007o5d0e3778w3aba9869018fa9cf@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6201873e0908152007o5d0e3778w3aba9869018fa9cf@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: script to send out a dozen letters? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:09:50 -0000 On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:07:15PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > if there are tools to do this, please point me at them, but i > > want to send out a snail and/or email|HTML|whatever to a handful > > of companies that i hope to find online. > > > > I'm guessing the inside address would me something like > > > > Company Name > > Address > > Company Email > > > > Attn Mr. Smith: > > > > [my canned letter] > > > > > > i forget if the inside address is before the recipient > > address--I *think* so. is there a way of having date output > > the format "15 August, 2009" rather than my usual, 15aug09? > > > > I am pretty sure these people are most accustomed to GUI/html > > mail, so is there a way of invoking evo with html capability? > > > > if there are web pointers on this, puleeze clue me in! > > > > thanks much, > > > > gary > > > > -- > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > > Unix > > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > > > Not entirely clear on you goal here, but if this is a repetitive thing any > of the major scripting lang Perl,PHP,Python etc is easily up to the task. > Otherwise OpenOffice merge works great too once you get the hang of it. > i'm thinking of a /bin/sh script. if $1@ caputures a whole line, that would grab, say 123 Main Street and $2@ would grab York, PA 12345-6789 Actually, I'm trying to figure out something I can reuse if and when necessary, including applying for a JOB!! whatever.... tx, gary > > -- > Adam Vande More -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 04:15:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC33A106568C for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF2A8FC3D for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:15:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so1816915qyk.3 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:15:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/8Depdreg2B7vxrTC3yh8oUG6w1XnNOuMbES+R/bI8o=; b=kCp5ba/zLOVkbIv8Va6xvGIOy9c7nZbsKzUpzDnw8TNMAKc47OEMMuh6NPFZmoZEdr EvDL4IDZRrPERtE4FHjjQoXDBU3TDKZhZd9dnAe2DBBxVl5lpZHnOtqaZnhFlxGsF3lR zy6pLsI7HA+uf9JdSgZiAeTQGp1DdHCS/ZLUo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=bEajKSYY8gNW7VnMTbovqNI9p9tbax9vtINLSZc6YVxWeQHaT2ybiFSYmy+GFu43JS YBSYX2YI83NO6EV7NgopF2AZP51LgQzS/fiAo5wxJikoW/AVNTFHnOssjZzOKjAUKgAu vafAc8vzGrsB3BSoH150iL4qmnPoLM7x9mY/k= Received: by 10.224.66.226 with SMTP id o34mr3427692qai.347.1250396158635; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm6231387qwb.14.2009.08.15.21.15.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A87501E.4000906@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:17:34 +0000 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amvandemore@gmail.com References: <4A872070.8060102@gmail.com> <6201873e0908151944t8f1d43kefb46661a8ff88eb@mail.gmail.com> <4A874D6D.3040908@gmail.com> <6201873e0908152108u31f807e5yba3972b63ab3e6b2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0908152108u31f807e5yba3972b63ab3e6b2@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mouse not working - X or console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:15:59 -0000 > /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be help as well. http://pastebin.com/f30f93edb -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 06:43:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F896106568D for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 06:43:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timothyk@wallnet.com) Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC8C8FC15 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 06:43:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tim-kellerss-macbook-pro.local (www.smsd.tv [96.57.143.18]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KOG00GTPINRLU50@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:43:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:43:03 -0400 From: Tim Kellers In-reply-to: <20090816040944.GA51282@thought.org> To: Gary Kline Message-id: <4A87AA77.3010504@wallnet.com> MIME-version: 1.0 References: <20090815234920.GA9094@thought.org> <6201873e0908152007o5d0e3778w3aba9869018fa9cf@mail.gmail.com> <20090816040944.GA51282@thought.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: script to send out a dozen letters? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 06:43:05 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:07:15PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Gary Kline wrote: >> >> >>> if there are tools to do this, please point me at them, but i >>> want to send out a snail and/or email|HTML|whatever to a handful >>> of companies that i hope to find online. >>> >>> I'm guessing the inside address would me something like >>> >>> Company Name >>> Address >>> Company Email >>> >>> Attn Mr. Smith: >>> >>> [my canned letter] >>> >>> >>> i forget if the inside address is before the recipient >>> address--I *think* so. is there a way of having date output >>> the format "15 August, 2009" rather than my usual, 15aug09? >>> >>> I am pretty sure these people are most accustomed to GUI/html >>> mail, so is there a way of invoking evo with html capability? >>> >>> if there are web pointers on this, puleeze clue me in! >>> >>> thanks much, >>> >>> gary >>> >>> -- >>> Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service >>> Unix >>> http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org >>> >>> Not entirely clear on you goal here, but if this is a repetitive thing any >>> >> of the major scripting lang Perl,PHP,Python etc is easily up to the task. >> Otherwise OpenOffice merge works great too once you get the hang of it. >> >> > > i'm thinking of a /bin/sh script. if $1@ caputures a whole line, > that would grab, say > > 123 Main Street > > and $2@ would grab > > York, PA 12345-6789 > > > > Actually, I'm trying to figure out something I can reuse if and > when necessary, including applying for a JOB!! whatever.... > > tx, > > gary > > > > > >> -- >> Adam Vande More >> > > t may be a bit of overkill, but you might want to take a look at a customer relationship manager (CRM). Both vtiger and sugarcrm are in ports (the lastest version of vtiger 5.1 is not yet in the ports, but it is a snap ti install, anyway). You have the ability to maintain Contacts and Leads, create merged e-mail templates and other custom templates in vtiger, and it is so flexible you can hack up the code to make it do just about anything you can think of without going nuts trying to figure out how the program does what it does. You need Apache, php5 with some simple extensions, and MySQL (PostgresQL is coming soon). vtiger 5.1 also has an html e-mal editor built in and produces very servicable output. Leads would be your job prospects, Contacts would be your Leads that actually produced a dialogue. I've adapted it to handle Student marketing enquiries and do customized bulk e-mailings where I work and it is very easy to set-up and use. Tim Kellers CPE/NJIT From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 07:19:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA54C1065672 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 07:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E74D8FC3D for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 07:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7G7J9l7029986; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:19:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:19:13 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Tim Kellers Message-ID: <20090816071913.GA7602@thought.org> References: <20090815234920.GA9094@thought.org> <6201873e0908152007o5d0e3778w3aba9869018fa9cf@mail.gmail.com> <20090816040944.GA51282@thought.org> <4A87AA77.3010504@wallnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A87AA77.3010504@wallnet.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: script to send out a dozen letters? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 07:19:19 -0000 On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 02:43:03AM -0400, Tim Kellers wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > >On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:07:15PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > > > >>On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > >> > >> > >>> if there are tools to do this, please point me at them, but i > >>> want to send out a snail and/or email|HTML|whatever to a handful > >>> of companies that i hope to find online. > >>> > >>> I'm guessing the inside address would me something like > >>> > >>> Company Name > >>> Address > >>> Company Email > >>> > >>> Attn Mr. Smith: > >>> > >>> [my canned letter] > >>> > >>> > >>> i forget if the inside address is before the recipient > >>> address--I *think* so. is there a way of having date output > >>> the format "15 August, 2009" rather than my usual, 15aug09? > >>> > >>> I am pretty sure these people are most accustomed to GUI/html > >>> mail, so is there a way of invoking evo with html capability? > >>> > >>> if there are web pointers on this, puleeze clue me in! > >>> > >>> thanks much, > >>> > >>> gary > >>> > >>>-- > >>> Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > >>>Unix > >>> http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > >>> > >>>Not entirely clear on you goal here, but if this is a repetitive thing > >>>any > >>> > >>of the major scripting lang Perl,PHP,Python etc is easily up to the task. > >>Otherwise OpenOffice merge works great too once you get the hang of it. > >> > >> > > > > i'm thinking of a /bin/sh script. if $1@ caputures a whole line, > > that would grab, say > > > > 123 Main Street > > > > and $2@ would grab > > > > York, PA 12345-6789 > > > > > > > > Actually, I'm trying to figure out something I can reuse if and > > when necessary, including applying for a JOB!! whatever.... > > > > tx, > > > > gary > > > > > > > > > > > >>-- > >>Adam Vande More > >> > > > > > t may be a bit of overkill, but you might want to take a look at a > customer relationship manager (CRM). Both vtiger and sugarcrm are in > ports (the lastest version of vtiger 5.1 is not yet in the ports, but it > is a snap ti install, anyway). You have the ability to maintain > Contacts and Leads, create merged e-mail templates and other custom > templates in vtiger, and it is so flexible you can hack up the code to > make it do just about anything you can think of without going nuts > trying to figure out how the program does what it does. You need > Apache, php5 with some simple extensions, and MySQL (PostgresQL is > coming soon). vtiger 5.1 also has an html e-mal editor built in and > produces very servicable output. > > Leads would be your job prospects, Contacts would be your Leads that > actually produced a dialogue. I've adapted it to handle Student > marketing enquiries and do customized bulk e-mailings where I work and > it is very easy to set-up and use. > > Tim Kellers > CPE/NJIT This really looks interesting for when I've finished my book and have customers and feedback; need to track my ideas to promote novel, deal with returns and resales. And yes, then finding a job and my third career! vtiger looks interesting and if the docs are readable, then all the more so. i'm familiar with everything but mysql. I know it, but am far from expert. ...Hm. thanks much for the insight! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 14:56:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083FF106568F for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3648FC45 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so3224857yxe.3 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 07:56:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=AeHW+hNhEsSgpSr0V+ZY+tikjn3eL7UbwzTmHGo2us0=; b=l0DQ/YzQ/V0FdJNjlVShTfHMamUr2KwBp98dNl32tvoXs0dnFzCf1kRTE1I6VDPyNm sgAubfmXrA6zyU+UjLMK5mPOBM1pxZS+U7BBQGoAOitpRxPBgHvYaxkVh7ZJVTlJDTeR B0qfaDsON3vYL+JEUg0r1jd6TjRTy5ay4RB7E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=tpHPBlotK91YmuDWE0j2yRkEOiRHcISOohAXBReAueulddEQiAZQavgaGFeumROiUp EjCiEbbukVg/jKNA9aAiinAzO9zGi3gQXUNYggoEE/2cfUl8tuMG7xUEo76nNp+QbIPj Ywnh1iSCimjAV4hxgnVQh5WADMk2hrrX0Smgc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.88.27 with SMTP id l27mr4391315ybb.23.1250434563989; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 07:56:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A87501E.4000906@gmail.com> References: <4A872070.8060102@gmail.com> <6201873e0908151944t8f1d43kefb46661a8ff88eb@mail.gmail.com> <4A874D6D.3040908@gmail.com> <6201873e0908152108u31f807e5yba3972b63ab3e6b2@mail.gmail.com> <4A87501E.4000906@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:56:03 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908160756x32cc1be7q7cc20dcee6f554b5@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mouse not working - X or console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:56:05 -0000 On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > > /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be help as well. > http://pastebin.com/f30f93edb > > > -- > Eitan Adler > I'd try the fbsd xorg mailing list, btw does your console mouse work yet? -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 15:00:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FF31065691 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:00:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f227.google.com (mail-gx0-f227.google.com [209.85.217.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402338FC3F for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk27 with SMTP id 27so3174377gxk.12 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:00:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=i0UMeKvbzr8TxtgyUM6wZVD1JYUgrSTWwzTZGv5sPrA=; b=xL6ibR6CnrAfI2hgmD4tyPrCyZt+N9RzwkhOpqxQWU+xfjqF1D7P3Iu48BKQFDp0J9 x/M3kZ1I+O1ZEJFHahom73KvQ94yYSFGO3XMOprW6W1KzJhSRQTKvLljH9RcLTOBZtLy kyujPDvlhJJhrczdH3mqJc9wmJDpAiMXIdGkA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Z2ot5RxQfkqMW+wDEhxe6twH6CKnjeja0qkNVPifrcpz7NQZE96g8GsS5wb6iljq4b 9n6fWK1aKaAn6gPIMxRg2h5DHOEHUtQUujmhlVWJMfbJzhKrzVvSnq5+uo78FhOpC7d/ DnX8RULrA69wF3eNSQCdY025d6GVhO6VBTTu4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.20.7 with SMTP id x7mr4382535ybi.38.1250434856545; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:00:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6201873e0908160756x32cc1be7q7cc20dcee6f554b5@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A872070.8060102@gmail.com> <6201873e0908151944t8f1d43kefb46661a8ff88eb@mail.gmail.com> <4A874D6D.3040908@gmail.com> <6201873e0908152108u31f807e5yba3972b63ab3e6b2@mail.gmail.com> <4A87501E.4000906@gmail.com> <6201873e0908160756x32cc1be7q7cc20dcee6f554b5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:00:56 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908160800q6bfffe03iade7d8dcf0d481de@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mouse not working - X or console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:00:57 -0000 On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > >> > /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be help as well. >> http://pastebin.com/f30f93edb >> >> >> -- >> Eitan Adler >> > > I'd try the fbsd xorg mailing list, btw does your console mouse work yet? > > -- > Adam Vande More > Also you may want to update Xorg to current version. I think that may help as my intel chipset just starting working w/ freebsd again relatively recently. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 15:23:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DA5106568D for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from mail1.hostpark.net (mail1.hostpark.net [212.243.197.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6CA8FC4B for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E9D84D9E; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:23:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by Hostpark/NetZone Mailprotection at hostpark.net Received: from mail1.hostpark.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1.hostpark.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10124) with ESMTP id Xxvehqu7h3mU; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:23:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (6-7.106-92.cust.bluewin.ch [92.106.7.6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8500884D95; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:23:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7GFVTtq069070; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:31:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7GFVT9H069069; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:31:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:31:29 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: Volodymyr Kostyrko Message-ID: <20090816153129.GJ51217@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: Volodymyr Kostyrko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090803050458.GA81711@saturn.pcs.ms> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cyrus Imapd with SASL, authenticate against AD Windows 2003 with Kerberos5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:23:35 -0000 Hello Volodymyr Am Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 09:42:22AM +0300 Volodymyr Kostyrko schrieb: > Martin Schweizer wrote: > > >So I have now no more ideas where I can check. Any hints are welcome. > > I have done almost the same thing, only with pam: > > > grep sasl /etc/rc.conf > saslauthd_enable='yes' > saslauthd_flags='-apam -n1' > > > cat /etc/pam.d/imap > auth required pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass > Sorry for the delay but I was out of town. I did same as you suggested and now it works. Thank you. Regards, -- Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc; fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 15:54:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D6C106568E for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckop@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A34B8FC15 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so927374and.13 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:54:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:organization:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=QP7dztFEB1Z/B8o/cU1RvIicU9mi4R5vrt/lguthRGw=; b=h/9DsIdM2G89hEfMtT1ttu90vOZk13mg3MF3MXYtTtMUwpCbi2Rbam/kpsHvPJW9qh 7nnTYaNrd+3n2rkyO7q32K+8OioxMiJ+/BFDZImSoT6c/AqDWYG4BXDw2wr6i8QpNggl 5l0WPUCdrPPTLKmxYhnzDOYZ5nqwlWeIXyaSQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:organization :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=mkvI8ajUr5eSDyJRCP0KoXDvAIipoYprVlrvqeRDuYsgIsMETuOlGTXjnZXL80Cj5W +qcDoPnh5dzO3uWZ8i2KtoMrUvRaa63eF40wRkTz3lEd52l41wqy8VD7eBKkSh0OViK4 SBsv1u7/sGUlX1nBhNgXwjQLvLi82qemj8tPg= Received: by 10.101.111.12 with SMTP id o12mr2780652anm.51.1250438087682; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ChuckOp1 (145-115.127-70.tampabay.res.rr.com [70.127.115.145]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b37sm6626507ana.13.2009.08.16.08.54.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:54:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Charles Oppermann" To: "'Polytropon'" References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090812130546.GA3672@marge.bs.l> <4A82C3DD.7040209@ibctech.ca> <002701ca1b59$b3e132c0$1ba39840$@com> <20090813040701.34245f03.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090813040701.34245f03.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:54:41 -0400 Organization: Copper Software Message-ID: <003601ca1e89$deda1ef0$9c8e5cd0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AcobusEJDggUmGsoTJq+FHgMdJuQBACxGAXA Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'Steve Bertrand' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:54:48 -0000 > The average "Windows" user does not read what's on the screen anyway, so > he will always "next". :-) I get the humor, but based on this and your previous remarks regarding Windows, you're not an authority on Windows or its users - average or otherwise. It does FreeBSD a disservice when its supporters slam other platforms and implicitly (and explicitly on occasion) denigrate users of such. > > Since Windows 2000, the > > Setup program allows for deletion of partitions, creating one or more > > new partitions, formatting them, etc. > > Even DOS could do that. That is correct. However, in an earlier message you wrote: >"Usually, any MICROS~1 operating system attempts to completely wipe the disk it wants to install on," That might give the impression that the Setup procedure was inflexible. I assume your use of "MICROS~1" is some sort of clever dig at Microsoft, but this is 2009 - not 1995 - and for the "average Windows user" it's meaningless and confusing. For those who do understand it, they know having 8dot3 filenames was a FEATURE, a benefit of the platform to allow applications that weren't aware of long file names to continue working. Just my thoughts, -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 16:14:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EBD106564A for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897598FC45 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:14:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D21E1DF34; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:14:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7GGETUU002533; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:14:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:14:29 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Charles Oppermann" Message-Id: <20090816181429.7a2d4e73.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <003601ca1e89$deda1ef0$9c8e5cd0$@com> References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090812130546.GA3672@marge.bs.l> <4A82C3DD.7040209@ibctech.ca> <002701ca1b59$b3e132c0$1ba39840$@com> <20090813040701.34245f03.freebsd@edvax.de> <003601ca1e89$deda1ef0$9c8e5cd0$@com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'Steve Bertrand' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:14:33 -0000 On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:54:41 -0400, "Charles Oppermann" wrote: > I get the humor, but based on this and your previous remarks regarding > Windows, you're not an authority on Windows or its users - average or > otherwise. I may apologize for that not being the case, sadly, at least according to the last point, but it's very selective to Germany. I can't tell if "Windows" users in other countries behave in other ways. In my family and for friends, I'm often the "computer guy" and have to deal with their problems, which are usually related to "Windows" in many different ways. But still, my observations are quite individual, so I don't talk for "everybody". > It does FreeBSD a disservice when its supporters slam other platforms and > implicitly (and explicitly on occasion) denigrate users of such. This may be, I agree, but hey, at least I didn't start! :-) > > > Since Windows 2000, the > > > Setup program allows for deletion of partitions, creating one or more > > > new partitions, formatting them, etc. > > > > Even DOS could do that. > > That is correct. However, in an earlier message you wrote: > > >"Usually, any MICROS~1 operating system attempts to completely wipe the > disk it wants to install on," > > That might give the impression that the Setup procedure was inflexible. In DOS, deleting partitions involves reading the screen (in textmode) and pressing keys (on the keyboard); in "Windows" setups, those tasks can usually be achieved by repeatedly pressing the Enter key. There is a default action that usually leads to destruction of any other OS, or at least of the start sectors of the disk so other operating systems can't be booted anymore because the boot manager is gone. This is quite different to installer of other operating systems that require some knowledge about what to do, and the person who does the install is responsible for taking decisions. The "Windows" installer, however, replaces them by (for "Windows") reasonable defaults, and that is to free the way for "Windows" by all neccessary means. > I assume your use of "MICROS~1" is some sort of clever dig at Microsoft, but > this is 2009 - not 1995 - and for the "average Windows user" it's > meaningless and confusing. Meaningless? Sure. Confusing? Surely not more than "Windows" itself. And finally, "MICROS~1" is an invention by Microsoft. So simply take it as a very individual nuance of expression by the means of the language. I know it's a VERY special kind of humour, and of course not everyone's case. :-) > For those who do understand it, they know having > 8dot3 filenames was a FEATURE, a benefit of the platform to allow > applications that weren't aware of long file names to continue working. GeoWorks Ensemble had >8.3 filenames even in DOS. > Just my thoughts, > -Chuck Confirmed. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 16:40:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D81106568B for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7154F8FC52 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so850563qwe.7 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:40:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nluQH92PHzSi6+BKXz1Aw/sLDIO0kGzSrd2aAMyKhaE=; b=uOxKFsSy0wV3mK7okfCw53GSyt9Me873PXdj0660fpv8DZdrQUpltk7qIB6ImpQjdT Lrimjj8CPuG4L/mHdC8Re1zAiswpjDMSdulmXED8f+vshtcBGrPKJA4DndXMUfryEC2z tWUYATKNZHyBr4aPw9ueMlosxIU2GHBbe2z7c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=N0VB29WUUm0DMdILn93wAhgV6YNIFt9xNtTxrtZvWMANzvTyV/Ai/LM8EnqVLTwa6k wZKPNz/SNFuuyZ0vT5bCKwLeJiLAZs36at4zh3073JY13Wn6LJ0AY+eI2EjnLDOmK4bu noSLxs0Kdvn8wX37fWcsznC1HQ8N9HjguxayM= Received: by 10.224.79.37 with SMTP id n37mr3685347qak.194.1250440841302; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm6896515qwj.56.2009.08.16.09.40.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A87FEA9.60207@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:42:17 +0000 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: amvandemore@gmail.com References: <4A872070.8060102@gmail.com> <6201873e0908151944t8f1d43kefb46661a8ff88eb@mail.gmail.com> <4A874D6D.3040908@gmail.com> <6201873e0908152108u31f807e5yba3972b63ab3e6b2@mail.gmail.com> <4A87501E.4000906@gmail.com> <6201873e0908160756x32cc1be7q7cc20dcee6f554b5@mail.gmail.com> <6201873e0908160800q6bfffe03iade7d8dcf0d481de@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0908160800q6bfffe03iade7d8dcf0d481de@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mouse not working - X or console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:40:44 -0000 > Also you may want to update Xorg to current version. I think that may help > as my intel chipset just starting working w/ freebsd again relatively > recently. I was running 7.2-STABLE. I used freebsd-update to 8.0-BETA2 and mouse finally works. -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 17:28:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C55106568C for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:28:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from mail.optimis.net (mail.optimis.net [69.104.191.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D298FC4B for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (marvin.optimis.net [192.168.1.3]) by mail.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7GHS2E4004633 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:28:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7GHS2aK086770 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:28:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: (from george@localhost) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7GHS1Ci086769 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:28:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:28:01 -0700 From: George Davidovich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090816172801.GA84244@marvin.optimis.net> References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090812130546.GA3672@marge.bs.l> <4A82C3DD.7040209@ibctech.ca> <002701ca1b59$b3e132c0$1ba39840$@com> <20090813040701.34245f03.freebsd@edvax.de> <003601ca1e89$deda1ef0$9c8e5cd0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003601ca1e89$deda1ef0$9c8e5cd0$@com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:28:03 -0000 On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:54:41AM -0400, Charles Oppermann wrote: > > I assume your use of "MICROS~1" is some sort of clever dig at > Microsoft, but this is 2009 - not 1995 Sorry, but while I agree the MICROS~1 pejorative can be a bit juvenile and uncalled for, your assertion that 8.3 filenames are a thing of the past is incorrect. If browsing an installation CD or the contents of your local drive isn't enough to raise a few questions ... [george@XP] # regtool list '/HKLM/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/Control/FileSystem' NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation Win31FileSystem Win95TruncatedExtensions The default value for NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation is 0. Obviously, there's reasons for that, but this is one of those situations where an admonition of "Go ahead and laugh -- it's funny!" might be appropriate. -- George From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 22:22:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEC5106568B for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f227.google.com (mail-gx0-f227.google.com [209.85.217.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551108FC41 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk27 with SMTP id 27so3351448gxk.12 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:22:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=47O2I/hqrcWpJngwf6sZWQN7sOkbjee+Ej1xifN6nyY=; b=s0hWAFlh+VVa+FV/Qmj2dMSvPqFbC/MWeGzR0vecvuFSalxpOK91B9MEYJt6/NUd5L kYsdnuK7ruVD87/hq2h0PDeoeCKyrllFLrhOgxk0nsKwZTfgMYemAX+N93jozWOs6oNw xAMdfOKLeYeYCFHjECujFO0K1STzX73MmZX1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=M2RU/1bUhkK6y0+zAkKFTwhuDk/9tinvI/JAimJo859U4w1vHR4sC0zXHEFjDNbiK6 IMTYms4349vuFQOf0DKnYb35i6oy8fX+uK41SC+REKeRGiLNsBw0sCcfstrg577D1hmR IvTYkzjCJ+PlTL951uLxtbImJbDfjatEuu90M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.78.1 with SMTP id f1mr548981ybl.22.1250461370551; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:22:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <970380130908151536m5fec61aayb7523f1c29461bda@mail.gmail.com> References: <970380130908151536m5fec61aayb7523f1c29461bda@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:22:50 -0500 Message-ID: <970380130908161522u425ff3dcs8e40380790ea4020@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: High Point Rocket Raid 1740 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:22:51 -0000 On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 17:36, Jason Garrett wrote: > High Point Rocket Raid 1740... > > Is this a fakeraid card? > > A good raid card? > > What are your experiences with this card... > Anyone had any experiences? Looks like from high point's website, the last supported version is 6.x any ideas if this will work? I don't really want to just "try" only to have to redo the configuration of the machine again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 16 22:44:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BED5106568C for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1DC8FC4B for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so575143ewy.43 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:44:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xhTGeR0ITFuU7yZJSZ3grY3sF4AdHZTI6nC6DbZvkq0=; b=Jpi1qzy8K1BeCtsHSScLuNBMf2qD0WopLQki6gq4nvHF0FXxp4D/KYRoEwCe6yxBBl 4z6KfXIluue22hSOXUxhZ6QOtnoLY1P45/ZwPS6qDRFd98fI+s9XHmT0Wy/GK35YmLDF pqBvAKi6LdtBajRVIW7c+ISDHe5MYPw9eAao0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XAmyBhxQZN0tKnxb6DoctJhMYpuymbDuqHhdm5zBbv2B/TUBCuocXZYsXVaUWKakhS whxgmKB3asLFbJKObb8QsAHxoItDlUz8e6lIIWcwRFfkxzWxg7WfJdOv9r4nenEhmFuY EURtqwDkTB77CpFhHZa9aR2w2jmeG25XWFL/0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.26.80 with SMTP id b58mr917931wea.35.1250462669656; Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:44:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <003601ca1e89$deda1ef0$9c8e5cd0$@com> References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090812130546.GA3672@marge.bs.l> <4A82C3DD.7040209@ibctech.ca> <002701ca1b59$b3e132c0$1ba39840$@com> <20090813040701.34245f03.freebsd@edvax.de> <003601ca1e89$deda1ef0$9c8e5cd0$@com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:44:29 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Charles Oppermann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Polytropon , Steve Bertrand , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:44:31 -0000 > It does FreeBSD a disservice when its supporters slam other platforms and > implicitly (and explicitly on occasion) denigrate users of such. I agree only insofar as nobody is ever benefited by insulting/denigrating other users. But that's not what Polytropon was doing, I don't think. Seems to me he was denigrating the Windows system itself. And this leads to where I disagree. I think denigrating other systems is a fine thing if and when the denigration is based on true differences and not unrealistic exaggeration. For example, "FreeBSD is more stable than Windows--Windows sucks, it's unstable!" OK, this is me denigrating Windows. Am I hurting Windows's feelings? Am I preventing a small market player from competing with the establish oligarchy? No. I'm parading the greatness of FreeBSD. Sure, I sound more like a human being having a little fun than a technical booklet, but so what--who says FreeBSD users can't be people too :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 06:35:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439011065672; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stark@mapper.nl) Received: from smtp-out0.tiscali.nl (smtp-out0.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056618FC3F; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.170.17.27] (helo=mapper.nl) by smtp-out0.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1Mcvo9-0006k3-ME; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:35:05 +0200 Received: from bowser ([192.168.0.1] helo=[0.0.0.0]) by mapper.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Mcvnq-000IXs-CJ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:34:46 +0200 Message-ID: <4A88FA02.30405@mapper.nl> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:34:42 +0200 From: Mark Stapper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org'" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1DD0D2E70682B49F0A359F13" Cc: Subject: howto install virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:35:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1DD0D2E70682B49F0A359F13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I'm currently migrating my home desktop from Gentoo linux to FreeBSD 8.0(Beta but it'll be "Stable" soon. Using RELENG_8 btw). I'm kind of a OS collector/nut/geek/nerd. As such virtualization is quite important to me. I've been using VMware Server 2.x on Gentoo for quite some time and, apart from the new console *barf*, it's been working for me so far. So needless to say I was hoping for vmware support. Tough luck... Ow well, the handbook spoke of virtualbox support. Only OSE, but still, better than nothing. After trying virtualbox on windows(at work) I decided to give it a go on FreeBSD amd64... Issuing make install in the virtualbox directory complained about me not having any 32-bit libraries installed. My questions are two fold: 1. Which options do I have when it comes to vritualization on FreeBSD 8 amd64? 2. How do I install virtualbox on amd64? Thanks, Mark --------------enig1DD0D2E70682B49F0A359F13 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqI+gYACgkQN9xNqOOVnWCedQCcCkLiERpAfK/+d8o4ZA4ovLOs fyMAni4zcJ6Fop9AdlniPtJ+nQA8D2Z2 =JUB8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1DD0D2E70682B49F0A359F13-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 08:25:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49534106568C for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E0A8FC15 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9025F3CCC4; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:25:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7H8PTCj001456; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:25:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:25:29 +0200 From: Polytropon To: George Davidovich Message-Id: <20090817102529.be4fe3a5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090816172801.GA84244@marvin.optimis.net> References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090812130546.GA3672@marge.bs.l> <4A82C3DD.7040209@ibctech.ca> <002701ca1b59$b3e132c0$1ba39840$@com> <20090813040701.34245f03.freebsd@edvax.de> <003601ca1e89$deda1ef0$9c8e5cd0$@com> <20090816172801.GA84244@marvin.optimis.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:25:32 -0000 On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:28:01 -0700, George Davidovich wrote: > Sorry, but while I agree the MICROS~1 pejorative can be a bit juvenile > and uncalled for, your assertion that 8.3 filenames are a thing of the > past is incorrect. Furthermore, I think it wasn't a "gain of comfort" MICROS~1 (sorry, can't resist) inventet. As far as I remember, CP/M had 8.3 filenames too, and that was prior to DOS. (It only hadn't directories). > Obviously, there's reasons for that, but this is one of those situations > where an admonition of "Go ahead and laugh -- it's funny!" might be > appropriate. Finally. By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 09:07:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C082A1065695 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@apsara.com.sg) Received: from babylon.webvis.net (babylon.webvis.net [202.157.163.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BA38FC70 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.240] ([119.73.191.194]) by apsara.com.sg ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:07:44 +0800 SGT From: Erich Dollansky Organization: apsara green technology pte ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:07:45 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090816172801.GA84244@marvin.optimis.net> <20090817102529.be4fe3a5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090817102529.be4fe3a5.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908171707.47934.erich@apsara.com.sg> Cc: George Davidovich Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:07:47 -0000 Hi, On 17 August 2009 pm 16:25:29 Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:28:01 -0700, George Davidovich wrote: > > Sorry, but while I agree the MICROS~1 pejorative can be a bit > > juvenile and uncalled for, your assertion that 8.3 filenames > > are a thing of the past is incorrect. > > Furthermore, I think it wasn't a "gain of comfort" MICROS~1 > (sorry, can't resist) inventet. As far as I remember, CP/M had > 8.3 filenames too, and that was prior to DOS. (It only hadn't > directories). > wasn't it DEC with their RT-11 and RSX-11 operating systems introducing this concept which was then copied by Intel for the 8080 development systems? > By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to > be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-) Hey, memory was real rare those days. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 09:31:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD70106568C; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891198FC16; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [195.4.92.20] (helo=10.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #92) id 1McyYr-0006ce-Do; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:31:29 +0200 Received: from tfaf5.t.pppool.de ([89.55.250.245]:29677 helo=ernst.jennejohn.org) by 10.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #94) id 1McyYr-0007Xw-5f; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:31:29 +0200 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:31:28 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Mark Stapper Message-ID: <20090817113128.37ec7588@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <4A88FA02.30405@mapper.nl> References: <4A88FA02.30405@mapper.nl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.2; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-purgate-ID: 149285::1250501489-00000B72-583682E6/0-0/0-0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "'freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: howto install virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:31:31 -0000 On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:34:42 +0200 Mark Stapper wrote: > I'm currently migrating my home desktop from Gentoo linux to FreeBSD > 8.0(Beta but it'll be "Stable" soon. Using RELENG_8 btw). > I'm kind of a OS collector/nut/geek/nerd. As such virtualization is > quite important to me. > I've been using VMware Server 2.x on Gentoo for quite some time and, > apart from the new console *barf*, it's been working for me so far. > So needless to say I was hoping for vmware support. Tough luck... Ow > well, the handbook spoke of virtualbox support. Only OSE, but still, > better than nothing. > After trying virtualbox on windows(at work) I decided to give it a go on > FreeBSD amd64... > Issuing make install in the virtualbox directory complained about me not > having any 32-bit libraries installed. > So, how did you install FreeBSD? From an install image? You should have a /usr/lib32 by default, unless the image didn't contain it. The 32-bit compatibilty libraries are automatically generated by "make buildworld" as long as MK_LIB32 is not set to "no" (which it is not, by default). Maybe you need to do "make buildworld" followed by "make installworld", assuming you have the src tree installed. > My questions are two fold: > 1. Which options do I have when it comes to vritualization on FreeBSD 8 > amd64? > qemu works pretty well, but VirtualBox is the way to go. I've been using it under 8-current for a few months and it beats the socks off of qemu performance-wise. > 2. How do I install virtualbox on amd64? > See above. It seems that having /usr/lib32 populated is a prerequisite. --- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 09:36:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FBD106568C for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556318FC3F for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atomic.dyndns.org (athedsl-4488753.home.otenet.gr [94.71.74.57]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n7H9aAwp024004; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:36:11 +0300 Message-ID: <4A89248A.6040700@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:36:10 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Stapper References: <4A88FA02.30405@mapper.nl> In-Reply-To: <4A88FA02.30405@mapper.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: howto install virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:36:14 -0000 Mark Stapper wrote: > Hello, > > I'm currently migrating my home desktop from Gentoo linux to FreeBSD > 8.0(Beta but it'll be "Stable" soon. Using RELENG_8 btw). > I'm kind of a OS collector/nut/geek/nerd. As such virtualization is > quite important to me. > I've been using VMware Server 2.x on Gentoo for quite some time and, > apart from the new console *barf*, it's been working for me so far. > So needless to say I was hoping for vmware support. Tough luck... Ow > well, the handbook spoke of virtualbox support. Only OSE, but still, > better than nothing. > After trying virtualbox on windows(at work) I decided to give it a go on > FreeBSD amd64... > Issuing make install in the virtualbox directory complained about me not > having any 32-bit libraries installed. > My questions are two fold: > 1. Which options do I have when it comes to vritualization on FreeBSD 8 > amd64? > 2. How do I install virtualbox on amd64? > > Thanks, > Mark > > I don't have a suitable amd64 system to test, but apparently virtualbox on amd64 requires this option to be built into the kernel: COMPAT_IA32 for latest info check the wiki page, as virtualbox is under heavy development: http://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 10:09:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E7E106568C for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860CF8FC57 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DCA36E0A; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:09:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:09:06 +0200 From: cpghost To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090817100906.GA1162@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090812130546.GA3672@marge.bs.l> <4A82C3DD.7040209@ibctech.ca> <002701ca1b59$b3e132c0$1ba39840$@com> <20090813040701.34245f03.freebsd@edvax.de> <003601ca1e89$deda1ef0$9c8e5cd0$@com> <20090816172801.GA84244@marvin.optimis.net> <20090817102529.be4fe3a5.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090817102529.be4fe3a5.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:09:13 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to > be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-) The 6 letters limit was actually a restriction of earlier linkers and it affected all identifiers of linkable objects like variables, functions etc... Everybody familiar with FORTRAN libraries like BLAS [1] will remember that cramped namespace. ;-) [1]: http://www.netlib.org/lapack/lug/node145.html -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 10:18:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B70B106568C for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@apsara.com.sg) Received: from babylon.webvis.net (babylon.webvis.net [202.157.163.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B08E8FC3F for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.240] ([119.73.191.194]) by apsara.com.sg ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:18:42 +0800 SGT From: Erich Dollansky Organization: apsara green technology pte ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:18:45 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090817102529.be4fe3a5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090817100906.GA1162@phenom.cordula.ws> In-Reply-To: <20090817100906.GA1162@phenom.cordula.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908171818.47710.erich@apsara.com.sg> Cc: Polytropon , cpghost Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:18:45 -0000 Hi, On 17 August 2009 pm 18:09:06 cpghost wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to > > be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-) > > The 6 letters limit was actually a restriction of earlier > linkers and it affected all identifiers of linkable objects I did not know that linkers resolved macros those days. Interesting. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 10:49:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BB4106568B for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@avioc.org) Received: from didy.avioc.org (mail.ipv6.avioc.org [IPv6:2001:4978:125:a00a::25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF15E8FC51 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (mail.internal.avioc.org [192.168.2.252]) by didy.avioc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDFF3BA966; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:49:21 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.internal.avioc.org Received: from didy.avioc.org ([192.168.2.252]) by localhost (mail.internal.avioc.org [192.168.2.252]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id w3oEQQwuy+Zv; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:49:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.2.8] (section-8.internal.avioc.org [192.168.2.8]) by didy.avioc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3F33C3BA948; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:49:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4A8935A5.60203@avioc.org> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:49:09 -0500 From: Brandon Weisz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Garrett References: <970380130908151536m5fec61aayb7523f1c29461bda@mail.gmail.com> <970380130908161522u425ff3dcs8e40380790ea4020@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <970380130908161522u425ff3dcs8e40380790ea4020@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: High Point Rocket Raid 1740 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:49:23 -0000 Jason Garrett wrote: > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 17:36, Jason Garrett wrote: > > >> High Point Rocket Raid 1740... >> >> Is this a fakeraid card? >> >> A good raid card? >> >> What are your experiences with this card... >> >> > > Anyone had any experiences? Looks like from high point's website, the last > supported version is 6.x any ideas if this will work? > > I don't really want to just "try" only to have to redo the configuration of > the machine again. > I have a rr 1740 card in a 7.2 amd64 machine. The experience has generally been good. Support for these cards exist in the kernel - 3rd party driver not required. As with anything, you get what you pay for. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 10:49:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83D71065697 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FCC8FC43 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A92536BDB; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:49:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:49:52 +0200 From: cpghost To: Erich Dollansky Message-ID: <20090817104952.GB1162@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090817102529.be4fe3a5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090817100906.GA1162@phenom.cordula.ws> <200908171818.47710.erich@apsara.com.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200908171818.47710.erich@apsara.com.sg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:49:58 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:18:45PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > On 17 August 2009 pm 18:09:06 cpghost wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > > By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to > > > be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-) > > > > The 6 letters limit was actually a restriction of earlier > > linkers and it affected all identifiers of linkable objects > > I did not know that linkers resolved macros those days. Of course they didn't. But knowing that linkers restricted the identifiers' length to 6 chars, it made sense for preprocessors to restrict them as well before passing them to the compiler and linker. Actually, it's a bit more complicated than that, but the basic restriction came from the linkers, the preprocessors only inherited it. > Interesting. > > Erich Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 11:05:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E830106568F for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 205038328@cput.ac.za) Received: from bvsig.cput.ac.za (bvsig.cput.ac.za [198.54.223.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C5838FC52 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from (bvcn0005.cput.ac.za [10.47.30.5]) by bvsig.cput.ac.za with smtp id 3c57_634b45d2_8b19_11de_8a63_00188b332dac; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:33:22 +0200 Received: from Pentech-MTA by bvmail.cput.ac.za with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:30:52 +0200 Message-Id: <4A894DFB.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0.1 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:30:47 +0200 From: "BONGANI MANGANYE" <205038328@cput.ac.za> To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:49:10 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:05:39 -0000 am doing research about freebsd ,so can you help me with this information 1. features, benefits and setbacks 2. 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For the detailed e-mail disclaimer please refer to http://www.cput.ac.za/email.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 12:14:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417FA106568B for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:14:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 987DE8FC65 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 59276 invoked by uid 89); 17 Aug 2009 12:14:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 17 Aug 2009 12:14:31 -0000 Message-ID: <4A89499A.7040000@ibctech.ca> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:14:18 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manish Jain References: <4A858FC0.8030804@gmail.com> <4A859B2A.4040708@ibctech.ca> <4A865FA5.1070609@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A865FA5.1070609@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms090801060001050106010903" Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: A question for developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:14:08 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090801060001050106010903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Manish Jain wrote: > You are right. Syntax highlighting only works well with X. On the > console, to the best of knowledge, there is no way to change the colours > through vim's rc files. Syntax colour changing does work via .vimrc on the console. The constructs are named differently: ctermfg, cterm etc. The default however uses bright yellow and very light blue for many things, which doesn't appear well on my white console. Also, there is only a limited number of colours for the console. Your scheme provided me with what I needed in order to play around for myself. >>> With that said, I can tell that what you provided me with is much better >>> than the default. I'll play around this afternoon and see what I can >>> come up with. > > I am really glad you like my colour set. Please pass it on to anyone who > might be interested. > > I do not know what your level of expertise with Vim is. Provided you are > or intend to be serious user and that your knowledge is somewhere in the > range of beginner to intermediate, I might be able to help a little > further. Well, I just started with it about a week or two ago, but I plan on using this as my editor from now on. > Attached is vimref.txt (in a zip), which I created as a > mini-reference for everything I found useful for daily work. Please go > through this file AFTER running vim's own tutor. > > Some lines from my .vimrc which you may find useful : > > set backspace=2 whichwrap+=<,>,[,] > vnoremap d > > set autoindent > set nobackup > set nohlsearch > set nonumber > set ruler > set linebreak > set wrap > set laststatus=2 > set tabstop=4 > set shiftwidth=4 > set noexpandtab > set showmode > set nocompatible > set vb t_vb= > set display=lastline > set ignorecase > set nomodeline Many of these were documented in the tutor, and others I have found while reading other docs. Thanks! 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Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60EA8FC16 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7HCJOZm064644; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:19:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id n1uUZNeiNGDd; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:19:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7HCIPHU064628; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:18:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4A894A91.7060602@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:18:25 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090716 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BONGANI MANGANYE <205038328@cput.ac.za> References: <4A894DFB.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <4A894DFB.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:31:36 -0000 BONGANI MANGANYE wrote: > am doing research about freebsd ,so can you help me with this > information > 1. features, benefits and setbacks > 2. Functionality and features > 3. versions, strong and weak points > 4. Unique features www.freebsd.org :-) Kevin Kinsey -- Here I am, fifty-eight, and I still don't know what I want to be when I grow up. -- Peter Drucker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 13:58:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04760106568B; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94768FC45; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Md2if-0004dq-M7; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:58:01 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Md2ie-0004UL-UR; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:57:53 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7HDvqQO073509; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:57:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7HDvqTM073508; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:57:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:57:52 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090817135752.GA73485@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.1 X-Spam-Level: ---- Cc: Subject: ports lang/gcc4x fail to build on ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:58:03 -0000 Ports lang/gcc43, 44 and 45 fail to build on 8.0-beta2 ia64: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40959 I know they build fine on 6.4-stable alpha, but what about sparc64? amd64? mips? many thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 14:44:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2211065698 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heiner_ej@yahoo.de) Received: from n9.bullet.re3.yahoo.com (n9.bullet.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0079A8FC73 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [68.142.237.87] by n9.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2009 14:44:20 -0000 Received: from [69.147.75.192] by t3.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2009 14:44:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp108.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2009 14:44:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 251001.67135.bm@omp108.mail.re1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 93344 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2009 14:44:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.de; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Subject:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gh4TPkWdh6t/AYQD/MkFfob63eNSbaAAzOeEf2LbnlyyzPQmnt16hxDYNAoVVVDPE9jXxMrHfGM9elhkGvI6Y8CQ/FKZs1ITFkxdZRCxncETIZkt4azIiBZ+bMsqOIhD0Fss28lZ+MJJmmlQD7tWGUAGr6ed3r/kE/70it82nSk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.109?) (heiner_ej@84.144.82.242 with plain) by smtp116.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 2009 14:44:19 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4oilbwSswBDbRLHb6R1gRRq37n8E1w-- X-YMail-OSG: vrKE4AkVM1nkXwil7te0JReUtyLpapJy4iLP_1yAeyMNRmj2gtrOtOZFJkRsPOyvEpiBv1THgdOddBkPWSHzXueoXYrpjisITTVHJdnZ.oWx.0ZPQBA7Hf3C6urADDZJugVqvukvw0wDzuNnyCNQIiAHuyrYUqse9yqRUdy9gwlElQasF.JrJyWXZOW_T6PXCAv.4H9KorJbWZyYOyIiXvMggHHrEdrh2Cwm8RIIlsFYwXyzLKzVAMK9HftruJuM2s9dyZDHeO1rhD70HsU9kGGizigVs4lXfcYLT34ZF5qZ0VwbzX32SG.9VoTL1eMvP1s6CA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Heiner =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Strau=DF?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090817120025.A73D010656FE@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20090817120025.A73D010656FE@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:44:19 +0200 Message-Id: <1250520259.1154.33.camel@think.ip> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:44:21 -0000 > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:18:45PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On 17 August 2009 pm 18:09:06 cpghost wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > > > By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to > > > > be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-) > > > > > > The 6 letters limit was actually a restriction of earlier > > > linkers and it affected all identifiers of linkable objects > > > > I did not know that linkers resolved macros those days. > > Of course they didn't. But knowing that linkers restricted the > identifiers' length to 6 chars, it made sense for preprocessors > to restrict them as well before passing them to the compiler > and linker. > > Actually, it's a bit more complicated than that, but the basic > restriction came from the linkers, the preprocessors only inherited > it. > > > Interesting. > > > > Erich > > Regards, > -cpghost. Putting the symbol names in one word helped the linker / loader a lot. Live was so easy. Heiner C (one word = 32 bit) .NOT. 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(ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm6567360agb.65.2009.08.17.07.44.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A8934EE.7090706@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:46:06 +0000 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: bwi driver (broadcom) on 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:44:33 -0000 I can't seem to find any reference to a broadcom wireless driver for 8.0. I did find one forum reference (http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-170.html) for a 7.x driver but it according to the thread does not work with 8.x. Can anyone point me to some instructions on getting my wireless working? -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 14:51:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2232106568B; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835158FC41; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id DFD898C078; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:36:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:36:02 -0500 From: Mark Linimon To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20090817143602.GB2365@lonesome.com> References: <20090817135752.GA73485@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090817135752.GA73485@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports lang/gcc4x fail to build on ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:51:17 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 02:57:52PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > Ports lang/gcc43, 44 and 45 fail to build on 8.0-beta2 ia64: > http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40959 > > I know they build fine on 6.4-stable alpha, but what about sparc64? > amd64? mips? You can check things like this using the Ports Monitoring tool: http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=lang&portname=gcc4&wildcard=yes According to that, for 8.0: - gcc4* are set to "not for ia64". From a commit log for gcc43/Makefile: Add ia64 to NOT_FOR_ARCHS. This has been broken for ages, it is not clear whether it is our kernel/userland, the hardware, or something else at fault and nobody on our side nor upstream seems to have any interest. - previous versions of gcc43 built everywhere; the latest version has not yet been tried on amd64 or sparc64, but builds on i386. - previous versions of gcc44 built everywhere; the latest version has not yet been tried on amd64 or sparc64, but builds on i386. - previous versions of gcc45 built everywhere; the latest version has not yet been tried on amd64 or sparc64, but builds on i386. The package building cluster is currently only set up to try builds on amd64, i386, and sparc64. Although we have some ia64 machines, the last time I tried to upgrade them I had trouble. We do not yet have any arm, mips, or powerpc machines. Our alphas have been deinstalled (sorry), after the alpha src code had fallen too far behind the main 3 archs, and no one was keeping it up. Unless a developer with specific interest in ia64 steps up to help, you may be out of luck. Sorry. mcl * yes, I know that portsmon is throwing 'database not connected' errors, but don't have a fix for it yet. It only seems to affect the query for 'show me uploaded packages', and even then not all the time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 14:51:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137F61065691; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E788FC77; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Md3YZ-0007fJ-LA; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:51:45 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Md3YS-0002Xq-V9; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:51:30 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7HEpON9090988; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:51:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7HEpOdn090987; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:51:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:51:24 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20090817145124.GA89493@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090817135752.GA73485@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090817143602.GB2365@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090817143602.GB2365@lonesome.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.5 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports lang/gcc4x fail to build on ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:51:46 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 09:36:02AM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 02:57:52PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > Ports lang/gcc43, 44 and 45 fail to build on 8.0-beta2 ia64: > > http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40959 > > > > I know they build fine on 6.4-stable alpha, but what about sparc64? > > amd64? mips? > > You can check things like this using the Ports Monitoring tool: > http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=lang&portname=gcc4&wildcard=yes > > According to that, for 8.0: > > - gcc4* are set to "not for ia64". From a commit log for gcc43/Makefile: > > Add ia64 to NOT_FOR_ARCHS. This has been broken for ages, it is not clear > whether it is our kernel/userland, the hardware, or something else at fault > and nobody on our side nor upstream seems to have any interest. yes, I understand.. Unfortunately a FBSD system without gcc4x is of little use to me, because I need fortran OMP compiler, and many other ports which depend on gcc4x. I wonder if they work under ia64 linux? > amd64, i386, and sparc64. Although we have some ia64 machines, the last > time I tried to upgrade them I had trouble. We do not yet have any arm, I volunteer to build gcc4x ports on my rx2600 SMP ia64 current. > mips, or powerpc machines. Our alphas have been deinstalled (sorry), > after the alpha src code had fallen too far behind the main 3 archs, and > no one was keeping it up. yes, I gave up on alpha because of this. > Unless a developer with specific interest in ia64 steps up to help, > you may be out of luck. Sorry. well.. unfortunately I've no relevant skills to offer, only testing. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 14:57:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736C7106568B for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A46A8FC3F for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 97770 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Aug 2009 14:57:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250521053; bh=1rzcEUz9P2NlS0pGhFdxqBhrg/y0mcezoWwlb/MJlfM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; 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Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:57:33 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:57:33 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:30:21 +0000 Subject: Intel 5100 agn driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:57:34 -0000 Hi, does anyone knows if the driver for the Intel 5100 agn included in many= new notebooks is ready to use in 7.2-STABLE for amd64?, if not, at least i= 'm looking for some pointers to creating a ndis wrapper for its WinXP drive= r.=0A=0AThanks in advance,=0ALeonardo.=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 15:36:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFF01065692 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC518FC62 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7HFaEMF068345; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:36:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id G+lSgTgoro7f; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:36:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7HFa3c1068341; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:36:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4A8978E3.1080905@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:36:03 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090716 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BONGANI MANGANYE <205038328@cput.ac.za> References: <4A8969A402000070000377FE@bvmail.cput.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <4A8969A402000070000377FE@bvmail.cput.ac.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:36:35 -0000 BONGANI MANGANYE wrote: > i dont know if is me or what but you havent answerwd my question,please > take ur time ad give me reply > >>>> Kevin Kinsey 08/17/09 2:18 PM >>> > BONGANI MANGANYE wrote: >> am doing research about freebsd ,so can you help me with this >> information >> 1. features, benefits and setbacks >> 2. Functionality and features >> 3. versions, strong and weak points >> 4. Unique features > > www.freebsd.org > > :-) > > Kevin Kinsey My reply is, *read the website*. www.freebsd.org is the FreeBSD Project's site and gives details such as those you are asking for with great attention to accuracy in language and with great character. If your native/primary language is not English, the site should still be available in several other languages, but I've never read those, and can't *positively* say that they will help you as much. I have, however, read posts by persons on the translation teams, and they seem top-caliber as well as the programmers and English documentation team, so you should still be able to glean most of what you need from the site. If you are looking for opinions rather than facts, please accept my apology for not giving you mine, but I read the original post as asking for facts, and these can best be found from the Project's website. HTH, Kevin Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 16:44:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF2A106568B for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24CE8FC45 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7HG1PGp058778; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:01:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n7HG1PYE058777; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:01:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:01:25 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: BONGANI MANGANYE <205038328@cput.ac.za> Message-ID: <20090817160125.GD56581@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A894DFB.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A894DFB.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:44:45 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:30:47PM +0200, BONGANI MANGANYE wrote: > am doing research about freebsd ,so can you help me with this > information > 1. features, benefits and setbacks > 2. Functionality and features > 3. versions, strong and weak points > 4. Unique features Your best bet is to get on the web site: http://www.freebsd.org/ and start reading and following links. Everything that would be said in this questions list is in there and a lot more. There are a lot of additional web sites you can look at as well. To mention just a few: http://onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/11/11/FreeBSD_Basics.html http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/ct/15 http://forums.freebsd.org/ http://www.math.colostate.edu/~reinholz/freebsd/freebsd.html But, the best thing is to get a computer, install FreeBSD and tinker around with it until you get a good feel for it. ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 17:18:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492B21065691; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tinguely@casselton.net) Received: from casselton.net (casselton.net [63.165.140.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26E08FC61; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from casselton.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by casselton.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7HGwqeB041736; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:58:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tinguely@casselton.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=casselton.net; s=ccnMail; t=1250528333; bh=pdp52duLjK9AymP3F5gQX+fFiqhd+K3naBVlZVElS7s=; h=Date:From:Message-Id:To:Subject:In-Reply-To; b=kyAPvhYggJn7CRYs7w48fHJUVM1MsNJ2DuiGwfzCPjNNw7JdhnaWLKs2QxtgRk5TP BatIVb7+s19aWSlDfkhF5s7y5redapoXb2/36yL+hrAdup3jcYMq4dTqyExghPwvo8 zEnjjcnswrhZbAxe2aDRQnKICr/6TMX7+JbKqDjU= Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by casselton.net (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) id n7HGwqc3041735; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:58:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tinguely) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:58:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <200908171658.n7HGwqc3041735@casselton.net> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mexas@bristol.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <20090817135752.GA73485@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.2 (casselton.net [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:58:53 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Subject: Re: ports lang/gcc4x fail to build on ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:18:50 -0000 > Ports lang/gcc43, 44 and 45 fail to build on 8.0-beta2 ia64: > http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40959 > > I know they build fine on 6.4-stable alpha, but > what about sparc64? amd64? mips? > > many thanks > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht FYI: I mostly ported GCC 4.5 to the BSD Makefiles (svn head sys/gnu/usr.bin/cc) for ARM. Basically, I added the FreeBSD format extension, the __FreeBSD_cc_version built-in define and the PATH changes. I did not make BSD Makefile for the GMP and MPFR libraries. I don't have the FreeBSD-8.0 revision 195697 that eliminates ".text relocations in shared libraries compiled with stack protector". Vassilis Laganakos has been working with GCC 4.4 on the ARM. I haven't push the compiler (and newer binutils 2.19) much beyond building the kernel. GCC 4.5 "-O" option creates new kernel warnings with the conditional locks. Below is a typical error: /mnt/arm64/usr/bin/gcc -mlittle-endian -c -O -pipe -std=c99 -g -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I../../.. -I../../../contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -mcpu=xscale -ffreestanding -Werror ../../../fs/devfs/devfs_vnops.c cc1: warnings being treated as errors ../../../fs/devfs/devfs_vnops.c: In function 'devfs_lookup': ../../../sys/sx.h:165:1: error: inlining failed in call to '__sx_xunlock': call is unlikely and code size would grow ../../../fs/devfs/devfs_vnops.c:809:3: error: called from here ../../../sys/sx.h:165:1: error: inlining failed in call to '__sx_xunlock': call is unlikely and code size would grow ../../../fs/devfs/devfs_vnops.c:817:4: error: called from here ../../../sys/sx.h:165:1: error: inlining failed in call to '__sx_xunlock': call is unlikely and code size would grow ../../../fs/devfs/devfs_vnops.c:828:4: error: called from here *** Error code 1 --Mark Tinguely. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 17:19:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F5F106568C for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A337F8FC3D for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:19:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so4432003ywh.28 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:19:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wd4xEgxayKcvIhTWseOPePX3pcYmuWtYvIfatAqA8FI=; b=D+NBlWcrQlpDNV0lW4mFMahRtT057fK4e5tODAZShCDAdO5Eq/w/OgGmBUu1bE0W1D 9F1u74vXdBpwlSiO51RjBy2eT1GTOwdngoyYiB+enu93HnbFPuhLDKk8lJDxddR31wDB 3BRSedXc/53hAWJUtuJmVWGZ1bG/T3YcUFJKg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=n2tdJSgNlQuHQ0W1PGtM+6Ap5/bn3+HvVYYG8U3a6n+me1i8F3bD+JVtlX0EWRxFi1 AV64CgcGOjoDE7P63A7gQ33rDxu18zl+owmC2N8L0T+6bSbleh3wdgGB4HBViylgnhHM xm2pVGteKc2+doWbDbbN716sfkqNwh7WUryo0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.10.2 with SMTP id 2mr5947883ybj.312.1250529565105; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:19:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090817160125.GD56581@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A894DFB.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> <20090817160125.GD56581@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:19:25 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908171019v5e9e898uff62afc083f2b1e5@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Jerry McAllister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, BONGANI MANGANYE <205038328@cput.ac.za> Subject: Re: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:19:27 -0000 > > > But, the best thing is to get a computer, install FreeBSD and tinker > around with it until you get a good feel for it. > > ////jerry > > > 7 years later... -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 17:42:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A673106568E for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359638FC43 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:42:24 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from macbook-pro.jnpr.net (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KOJ0012D52A7150@asmtp024.mac.com>; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:42:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Marcel Moolenaar In-reply-to: <20090817143602.GB2365@lonesome.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:42:09 -0700 Message-id: References: <20090817135752.GA73485@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090817143602.GB2365@lonesome.com> To: Mark Linimon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1074) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports lang/gcc4x fail to build on ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:42:24 -0000 On Aug 17, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Mark Linimon wrote: > The package building cluster is currently only set up to try builds on > amd64, i386, and sparc64. Although we have some ia64 machines, the > last > time I tried to upgrade them I had trouble. Really, you have ia64 machines for ports building? Are you referring to pluto1 and pluto2 or are these entirely different beasts? > Unless a developer with specific interest in ia64 steps up to help, > you may be out of luck. Sorry. I'll see about fixing it... -- Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 17:47:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CE7106568C for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE618FC43 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7HHi3o8059230; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:44:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n7HHi2oe059229; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:44:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:44:02 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Adam Vande More Message-ID: <20090817174402.GA59192@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A894DFB.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> <20090817160125.GD56581@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <6201873e0908171019v5e9e898uff62afc083f2b1e5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6201873e0908171019v5e9e898uff62afc083f2b1e5@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , questions@freebsd.org, BONGANI MANGANYE <205038328@cput.ac.za> Subject: Re: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:47:13 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:19:25PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > > > > > > But, the best thing is to get a computer, install FreeBSD and tinker > > around with it until you get a good feel for it. > > > > ////jerry > > > > > > > 7 years later... It doesn't take that long. Using it for a couple of months begins to create a good familiarity. Now, if you really want to be an expert - few of us are that - then you need to pick some problems or improvements, build the changes and submit them for inclusion. - eg become a FreeBSD developer. But, to become an effective user does not require that much. It is just easier to 'visualize' it when you are really using it in addition to just reading about it. ////jerry > > -- > Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 17:50:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2B6106568C for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:50:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f205.google.com (mail-fx0-f205.google.com [209.85.220.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8628E8FC68 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so2431801fxm.7 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:50:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ViCboRiNiEfA62iO+bfdK3JohmXY5YAYYM2NZeYgGrk=; b=ETk/JAl6VSH2fsHYaYziMAyUI7j/Zf5VPVGmffqWRPobkcsfUD2iGWCUpvIJ1WHA2o Rqha5Ak/xTLko5RYLa+rky5x8PsGSPEk3RREwMDgVy03t3loQE6uhI2HG7NunUOl8tBx MKfqikMANsKx9KJ2rIOvFY4D20vzT6bqxjOxo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GRIEkNo6wlMEZ6jONl6/3EopZ3ysOUe1TavhbZ9dIkOjc9IBpba++h1C0pjnw9xJR6 vuAnaAm1lXBSc+R8Meyp7jb2AV90sS+jtLgQF5Ih8VG+McG2nkBHSaIKnNKTowrXfQ+y nqLAIpo+hMbubJI/Lnq44k5hOEhDSkaDfZIGM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.1.6 with SMTP id 6mr914307fad.103.1250531408207; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:50:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <631810.97392.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <631810.97392.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:50:08 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310908171050k21105075u872ea9cf46c02fbe@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel 5100 agn driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:50:10 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 = wrote: > Hi, does anyone knows if the driver for the Intel 5100 agn included in ma= ny new notebooks is ready to use in 7.2-STABLE for amd64?, if not, at least= i'm looking for some pointers to creating a ndis wrapper for its WinXP dri= ver. > Hi, Leonardo I'm in the same situation you are in. Regarding an official driver, there is not anything available (yet). The last post I saw in the -net archives mentions the driver was not currently being worked on (I do not know how much truth this holds now). Regarding ndis/ndisgen, I was able to create a module in 7.2-RELEASE and 8.0-BETA2, however both caused panics (which I was unable to get cores on - mostly because of time constraints). As expected, your results may vary. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 17:51:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD5D1065691 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:51:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E608FC57 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yx0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 11so4039269yxe.3 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:51:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KyGCPP7vGQ0LuSw9LNLYsfYb1MHb0uUqNSPJKY69xXs=; b=HhrY6Z3g7CXKa59ub2/3U1ZXmneXmMG98r1wz1alyADan5dFscMWv+4wKcKib3QVgC gOeWXQS4Abk0GAVi0tzsF0FijBv0LCog3VjXY2KYDZR7qEo7lHarME+cFHHdkZm3g7xR Sh+dZhS1oWAEDlT8tHJl2r121NdcbTH8GLDTE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=NoQ6I2iN+UkTiZjDSKPMTKslcVINZMjFYr/NN/X0vCXs9Blw3s6L/wQL+PnM34MQ+G BmqM00k/K5O5d6Bzys6jkGab+6C8KV2mGZVZQd7WuSvyIHNIgfbIleomS/8qP50s2xGH nZ08usgoSgVVUsVrWgIM3cMmcfxDBU/oXfdMk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.238.15 with SMTP id l15mr6092549ybh.197.1250531497267; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:51:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090817174402.GA59192@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A894DFB.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> <20090817160125.GD56581@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <6201873e0908171019v5e9e898uff62afc083f2b1e5@mail.gmail.com> <20090817174402.GA59192@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:51:37 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908171051y4c4e2669lcdfcc5e9a2e9381@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Jerry McAllister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, BONGANI MANGANYE <205038328@cput.ac.za> Subject: Re: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:51:38 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:19:25PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > > > > > > > > > > But, the best thing is to get a computer, install FreeBSD and tinker > > > around with it until you get a good feel for it. > > > > > > ////jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > 7 years later... > > It doesn't take that long. > Using it for a couple of months begins to create a good familiarity. > > Now, if you really want to be an expert - few of us are that - then you > need to pick some problems or improvements, build the changes and > submit them for inclusion. - eg become a FreeBSD developer. > > But, to become an effective user does not require that much. > It is just easier to 'visualize' it when you are really using > it in addition to just reading about it. > > ////jerry > > Sorry, my sense of humor is often said to be too dry. Point was it's awfully addicting if you go that route. Much like Alice in Wonderland if you follow the rabbit down the hole. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 19:00:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00411065695 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5818FC73 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:00:43 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KOJ00IKPBGO3Q90@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A89A8CF.1000704@videotron.ca> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:00:31 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: plip0 & GEOM_LABEL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:00:44 -0000 version 7.2 GENERIC kernel on bootup, dmesg shows plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag Is this significant? Of what? Then, GEOM_LABEL: bunch of labels removed.... Same question? I find nothing directly related to the plip0 warning on the Net - what is it and why is it? And how to I get rid of the GEOM_LABEL: stuff - it seems unnecessary... TIA PJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 19:14:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A04106568C for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:14:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0658FC41 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:13:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7HJDwVm009294; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:13:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CE9D5BA90; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:13:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:13:57 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: PJ Message-ID: <20090817191357.GA99912@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A89A8CF.1000704@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A89A8CF.1000704@videotron.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: plip0 & GEOM_LABEL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:14:00 -0000 --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 03:00:31PM -0400, PJ wrote: > version 7.2 GENERIC kernel > on bootup, > dmesg shows plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag > Is this significant? Of what? It means that someone should update this driver. But unless you are using y= our parallel port for IP traffic (and who does these days?) it won't bother you. =20 > Then, GEOM_LABEL: bunch of labels removed.... > Same question? The geom software now automatically assigns (unchanging) labels to UFS filesystems. This enables people to mount filesystems correctly even if the harddisk is moved to a different controller. E.g. /dev/da4s1g might become /dev/da6s1g, but its labeled device /dev/ufsid/482e0880cf225c60 would not change. The labels are removed if a partition is mounted, which the warning mentions. It is harmless. > And how to I get rid of the GEOM_LABEL: stuff - it seems unnecessary... You might have to dig into the geom code... :-) Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqJq/UACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVa0ACfQ+ko44HCiXD9xB7P2LD9Iao5 YAsAoIiti0eRaP4JZg3L90Y4y9kjE2SQ =/X72 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 19:17:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEA6106568B for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18698FC43 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7HJEK9W059635; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:14:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n7HJEJ2R059634; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:14:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:14:19 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Adam Vande More Message-ID: <20090817191419.GA59618@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A894DFB.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> <20090817160125.GD56581@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <6201873e0908171019v5e9e898uff62afc083f2b1e5@mail.gmail.com> <20090817174402.GA59192@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <6201873e0908171051y4c4e2669lcdfcc5e9a2e9381@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6201873e0908171051y4c4e2669lcdfcc5e9a2e9381@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , questions@freebsd.org, BONGANI MANGANYE <205038328@cput.ac.za> Subject: Re: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:17:32 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:51:37PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:19:25PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, the best thing is to get a computer, install FreeBSD and tinker > > > > around with it until you get a good feel for it. > > > > > > > > ////jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7 years later... > > > > It doesn't take that long. > > Using it for a couple of months begins to create a good familiarity. > > > > Now, if you really want to be an expert - few of us are that - then you > > need to pick some problems or improvements, build the changes and > > submit them for inclusion. - eg become a FreeBSD developer. > > > > But, to become an effective user does not require that much. > > It is just easier to 'visualize' it when you are really using > > it in addition to just reading about it. > > > > ////jerry > > > > Sorry, my sense of humor is often said to be too dry. Point was it's > awfully addicting if you go that route. Much like Alice in Wonderland if > you follow the rabbit down the hole. Well, that it can be. There is a lot that can be learned and a lot that can be created. -- and it works! ////jerry > > > -- > Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 20:19:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D8210656AC for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6725D8FC57 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so61887ewy.43 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:19:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FLTlDDjMUpoOqJr0ZkcZU77kASHB4reUPMN+nKL9OkE=; b=nwtzxqIZvJhCSA2CebR2P8uaRt/EmuZ2i2vaQTeDgwUfY+iUDJcMT/3VHnKyu1lBs5 2YTTBQRIli7orUD5slhBeBSmQyHx5zSoSaeXkX/iE5zrZsR5X/xQ9jmwHJ61wT8bm+7c pcPu/yU4Tw+eczlyqmwBiYsGoaT1LK8b4CX+Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NutlkfmKOqRQ6oGkBXj7WBQzOYq+pL1z/RCSi36b/QoUb1zLkSQb9kTLvo6Gfyp6kz 0X2ZJSoR7mff0L3DD8yeytuxpTCPOY91Z+10RbgNXEdfeLde71UorjF0OX96317lQUj4 oSjXrt3ryAb5ik7djLKZNLUQVI8g6UCe1J6R4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.53.199 with SMTP id g49mr1050125wec.49.1250540341183; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:19:01 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: plip0 & GEOM_LABEL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:19:02 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: >On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 03:00:31PM -0400, PJ wrote: >> version 7.2 GENERIC kernel >> on bootup, >> dmesg shows plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag >>Is this significant? Of what? >It means that someone should update this driver. But unless you are using your >parallel port for IP traffic (and who does these days?) it won't bother you. I do, occasionally. It comes in handy with some older hardware, and in an emergency. As computers with multiple processors became more common, large parts of the operating system were rewritten to work both safely and efficiently with multiple processors; however, there remain some areas where more work needs to be done, and developers added such messages as a reminder and a warning. Up until recently, plip(4) was one of those places, but John Baldwin fixed this for FreeBSD 8. >> Then, GEOM_LABEL: bunch of labels removed.... >> Same question? >The geom software now automatically assigns (unchanging) labels to UFS >filesystems. This enables people to mount filesystems correctly even if the >harddisk is moved to a different controller. E.g. /dev/da4s1g might become >/dev/da6s1g, but its labeled device /dev/ufsid/482e0880cf225c60 would not >change. The labels are removed if a partition is mounted, which the warning >mentions. It is harmless. > >> And how to I get rid of the GEOM_LABEL: stuff - it seems unnecessary... >You might have to dig into the geom code... :-) If you really don't want it, remove: options GEOM_LABEL from your kernel and rebuild. You can always load it as a kernel module if you later find that you need it. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 20:27:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC221106568C for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cstankevitz@toyon.com) Received: from smtp1.toyon.com (206-190-77-154.static.twtelecom.net [206.190.77.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97F68FC61 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.1.101] (hosts253.toyon.com [65.160.147.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.toyon.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n7HKWfIx003966 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:32:41 -0700 Message-ID: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:27:42 -0700 From: Chris Stankevitz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:27:51 -0000 Hello, Hello, I have two questions: 1. Is it true that I have the choice to run these versions of FreeBSD: 8.0 CURRENT 7.2 RELEASE 7.2 STABLE 7.2 CURRENT 7.1 RELEASE 7.1 STABLE 7.1 CURRENT 7.0 RELEASE 7.0 STABLE 7.0 CURRENT 6.4 RELEASE 6.4 STABLE 6.4 CURRENT 2. For each of the versions above, what version of GCC and VirtualBox is available? I don't intend for this questions to directly be answered -- I'm hoping for a site that lists the versions of all packages available for a particular version of FreeBSD like this page for gentoo: http://packages.gentoo.org/package/www-client/mozilla-firefox Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 20:42:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73318106568D for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f205.google.com (mail-fx0-f205.google.com [209.85.220.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BBA8FC16 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so2523347fxm.7 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:42:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=e1o5AbZRfftlUBt/EobRETvSy/jomxWxaQiowAf0zdE=; b=riAy+FdV/ZWC0XydCWff2UtfBORQH2xf6JuVp1KwufhjyyB/gaGJI/rt8vEzrsTLde bxAJ7ehED/KOFUzffffJLPz4bAnjNrBkw9u4e/jPj3vcvDGA2Th01NPJAEQyqi74ezAl GIVTDkTMvXEzg4um+L3Xhf0ViANcsaud2ND4g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mtQMhwQ5T7iSzGi0VdsZ9bRo70VdPmisePV5WqipErwr+/aANhPpk2FI9FklIw7fOY Ey1BKoSkX/V5QH4oriepRCJtUnK0eujX4Em0CrEbrbYRhKVwHCePWCHcJiu+1ABBYXXD gz7p4pwvTNMFPtQtPneyUUFKUjR0D0eDZHwKA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.161.205 with SMTP id s13mr933689fax.70.1250541748013; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:42:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:42:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Chris Stankevitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:42:29 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Chris Stankevitz wr= ote: > > Hello, > > Hello, I have two questions: > > 1. Is it true that I have the choice to run these versions of FreeBSD: > > 8.0 CURRENT > 7.2 RELEASE > 7.2 STABLE > 7.2 CURRENT > 7.1 RELEASE > 7.1 STABLE > 7.1 CURRENT > 7.0 RELEASE > 7.0 STABLE > 7.0 CURRENT > 6.4 RELEASE > 6.4 STABLE > 6.4 CURRENT You can find links to directories with ISO images of various RELEASES here: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ Some older releases have been moved to archives. Once you're installed a RELEASE, you can update it to STABLE by updating the operating system. More information about updating can be found in the online handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ more specifically here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgradin= g.html > > 2. For each of the versions above, what version of GCC and VirtualBox is > available? =A0I don't intend for this questions to directly be answered -= - I'm > hoping for a site that lists the versions of all packages available for a > particular version of FreeBSD like this page for gentoo: > http://packages.gentoo.org/package/www-client/mozilla-firefox The ports system, and the versions of applications available, changes with time and is not directly associated with the core operating system version number. Once you've installed the operating system, you could choose to keep the operating system the same, but continue to update the ports system. You can find application binaries that were built at the time the OS version was released here: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ They are arranged by computer architecture and release number. There are also stable directories for certain releases. More information about various RELEASES and their features can be found her= e: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/ > > Thank you, > > Chris Best of luck, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 20:47:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3979106568D for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:47:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8378FC45 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:47:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so4625054ywh.28 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:47:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:openpgp :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ys0DhyOTs7bw8PbAGOI9hMtPHg7lGy4RS/53qFtAetE=; b=iGymbusJn/c1Qt4rDjmMjRgsi6UEP5WmxZWjZymCTR2E+NnzMOju+BI2Ve52EOx5zk CjG8+ZhRh5NaS3e8EMn6qw+c1E7tug4KK1ZZSVfn3UryXFRcxSXBOePTKSA+2rXmUjTc bS1lPaiwMY/4L+pF8wACDStEnVslcdyx21wu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pyeOdSGuEtMYivDDPDuVaIDsJ6R+5HI53ydBM3L+6XB30eUsDSzPezZ4r5enE9hzuD N/dVSeRnG1TahwAmC7NkpU4YLOV0M/ENOZUXhP8n3fP4KD+/ZW/WlMp264mR/wOBFbcR 6sIwhlb9lzrbotdTtNrRTdU07m6LEmlZylL9Y= Received: by 10.90.211.6 with SMTP id j6mr3077506agg.86.1250542029600; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 36sm9878478agc.60.2009.08.17.13.47.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A8989EC.4060709@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:48:44 +0000 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ndis driver - freeze on scan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:47:10 -0000 I created an ndis driver for my wireless card and kldloaded it. When I try ifconfig ndis0 up scan my computer just freezes and it does not find any of the 100 (exaggeration) APs around. This is a broadcom wireless card. -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 20:52:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1DB1065690 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f227.google.com (mail-gx0-f227.google.com [209.85.217.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E6C8FC57 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk27 with SMTP id 27so4145559gxk.12 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:52:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KDEJ3/j31c6tA63EpAsMzjuDmqo0zyfbqptfLYJuGSY=; b=Eie/ere1tKvVF3lRTTk7k1spdflFhuJeqHHp8RysBHWXMDR5oPgkb8gBrfWgdNzjXi LTw22TcitI5Ea6e4cXbtNQWQupTEEF0XYCyy+mp61PK4jn5qeBEtgIs7j5nz5GHJiITc TINN8K3g8ftJamfSpXmvkwpUmZDVS3GvjRMBA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=xuGqTjcERqHC0VJtkIwrC/v+IW0XF3k/TTdK0tTj9cAM9qbNNHgekRq9UEU29DApnf v30qJvMy+Y2ax8XayqIE/sk341yhysc1eEBdR0hKv98/Pr1kGASDVxgsjLEHcn+NoHha 2qcTMCSRl/OgZVzvbdjw1TgxY0QYpsGLlj43E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.4.13 with SMTP id g13mr6383332ybi.260.1250542371108; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:52:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:52:51 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908171352qdb5c6ceoa4d61a1ff16a33c@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Chris Stankevitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:52:52 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > > Hello, > > Hello, I have two questions: > > 1. Is it true that I have the choice to run these versions of FreeBSD: > > 8.0 CURRENT > 7.2 RELEASE > 7.2 STABLE > 7.2 CURRENT > 7.1 RELEASE > 7.1 STABLE > 7.1 CURRENT > 7.0 RELEASE > 7.0 STABLE > 7.0 CURRENT > 6.4 RELEASE > 6.4 STABLE > 6.4 CURRENT That is an abbreviated list. > > 2. For each of the versions above, what version of GCC and VirtualBox is > available? I don't intend for this questions to directly be answered -- I'm > hoping for a site that lists the versions of all packages available for a > particular version of FreeBSD like this page for gentoo: > http://packages.gentoo.org/package/www-client/mozilla-firefox > > Thank you, > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > You question reflects a linux background which probably explains the awkwardness of it. Try to learn the FreeBSD native ports method which gives much more flexibility at the expense of compile time, but I've heard gentoo does something similar so perhaps the pain of waiting is not too great. Packages are compiled for commonly used ports at release time. These packages are versioned at what is in the ports tree at release time. There may be other sources but that not something to be counted on. Ports tree makes rolling your own packages easy so running various verisons of gcc/virtualbox is not a problem usually not issue depending on what's already installed on the system. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 21:04:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401A7106568C for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D308FC3F for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so4640722ywh.28 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:04:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fUrh7KgjOSbfUkrerrFpnf7fdowoe0zo+RiTmpLvo4c=; b=mkkMOxDcqDvX2dsL/OAessvlY8BwCftKInSZMxm/HUjY/IR8UEcmeKkXCYjtLZDEpU 484vH4o/dvROZMZeEX/QPeFcPhc01eiOCAINyh4RpNRscQUlzOyWSijAh+XXBT6mQnfR CnSV/lcwff1UAG7uGxhRv9T/f0/79xzGAjh2U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=JbLWbhQzbgabhEV9ZRyLZctY1rHsd+GWuPJWdD06SezOHJGm0OYxhDKIAIwri9Gx0B 7r4jThrifbxNHnd7YplKHInSbVPDqNBEYGkEFTSuSz8QLn1KevSfHvxFNzw2usu4w4/A 15mmPayyrHwDVcrUklmA2I/DPW5UOH+3zjbN4= Received: by 10.91.26.7 with SMTP id d7mr3118987agj.1.1250543053730; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 29sm7246348agd.15.2009.08.17.14.04.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A898DEC.9080008@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:05:48 +0000 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A8989EC.4060709@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A8989EC.4060709@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: (was ndis driver - freeze on scan) actually freezes on up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:04:15 -0000 Eitan Adler wrote: > I created an ndis driver for my wireless card and kldloaded it. > When I try > ifconfig ndis0 up scan > my computer just freezes and it does not find any of the 100 > (exaggeration) APs around. > > This is a broadcom wireless card. > I just tried ifconfig ndis0 up and it also freezes. -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 21:04:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52F6106568B for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f205.google.com (mail-fx0-f205.google.com [209.85.220.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DEA8FC69 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so2535122fxm.7 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:04:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=T9YDlt3/+CLZHEJxGhjPjKcgxNlhBScvluZDWIpHPUs=; b=oSvsMUCUWC+Bmgl794YhKaWkrXbGonV2095f2bquua9LB22HxqeGjWyKWrnXjd/UNa PTDXjIT4u81GuPEzVgas78fVz1kxZeISPAk3nqz+zMNBUmu/9ak+HFCWAwiMzDXI5iOk kLifym5gTWJzZteLI2yTI1MzlP5Be0T5qq9iM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=t0KFxYopevX1fJCzKJqVZSd3o3WQ0/PHMdK/jculCiWrAZIiLDlqUhai0SD40fUJ9H QudznihV+DJbpOi/owFdCHVUw8nNUvnOZg8vUhCTIzrHlbsw/k1B5mAavC44SaT5AleL CvK/TR04JMN9Bh30yakhOJdroM0vTZyAYz6Ws= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.144.201 with SMTP id a9mr989610fav.17.1250543087189; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:04:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A8989EC.4060709@gmail.com> References: <4A8989EC.4060709@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:04:47 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310908171404o48898a04kd76965e476ab4056@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ndis driver - freeze on scan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:04:48 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > I created an ndis driver for my wireless card and kldloaded it. > When I try > ifconfig ndis0 up scan > my computer just freezes and it does not find any of the 100 > (exaggeration) APs around. > If you break out of the scan (^C), is the machine responsive? I've noticed a hang when scanning with my ndis'd 4318, but no problems otherwise. > This is a broadcom wireless card. > Well.. No problems other than the above... -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 21:06:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA4A106568B for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F41D8FC71 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so4642287ywh.28 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:06:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kklbEPi/QwpY3fur6jvc2N35XL0cpH7XgRd8QXVHDDA=; b=R/GvKYxHY6B+MmG/BlAbZ7wcMzKBIGIw5yARhqdwjt80Z+EXyh8DobCBCKIvcUY19A xD6o/bNNJNp35sUu9kNyoJ2+fe/pmWAp2PFumM4SIQ1sgluUWq9z8ChVRvMitwK440cc zdVUGoKqtkjHYpHTZqz9LG4iL/wKzuPBCSsCI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Gdt5TbrP4tl3X7g4nS5xCXmMLKuNk3OiqLFfTSflgf5oxv+6J6WDHv0KTqiD4X87y5 1Lj4OoygzxymXx/KGlbveY7x0G+0yLOeDunx4D0f3Hijq2KQcD/CHTwmSHWz1L7Gjidr 8hJKZX62zrtBtZTwNDRalsKE56Mglggr1CbhM= Received: by 10.91.144.16 with SMTP id w16mr3127408agn.21.1250543159235; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 40sm7252777aga.78.2009.08.17.14.05.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A898E55.5080601@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:07:33 +0000 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: glen.j.barber@gmail.com References: <4A8989EC.4060709@gmail.com> <4ad871310908171404o48898a04kd76965e476ab4056@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908171404o48898a04kd76965e476ab4056@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ndis driver - freeze on scan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:06:00 -0000 > If you break out of the scan (^C), is the machine responsive? I've > noticed a hang when scanning with my ndis'd 4318, but no problems > otherwise. I can't break out of the scan with ^C. It just hangs. -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 21:22:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE062106568B for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:22:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cstankevitz@toyon.com) Received: from smtp1.toyon.com (206-190-77-154.static.twtelecom.net [206.190.77.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44FC8FC43 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.1.101] (hosts253.toyon.com [65.160.147.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.toyon.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n7HLRVD2004308 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:27:31 -0700 Message-ID: <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:22:32 -0700 From: Chris Stankevitz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:22:41 -0000 Andrew Gould wrote: > Once you're installed a RELEASE, you can update it to STABLE by Andrew, Thank you for your helpful reply. Please tell me if you think I have the correct understanding: When I install FreeBSD, I am installing a "core operating system version number" (your term). Then I may choose to install the "ports" as either "STABLE" or "CURRENT" neither of which is associated with any "core operating system version number". From this point on, all application updates will arrive via "ports" . A question: Imaging one person installs FreeBSD-6.4 RELEASE and updates to STABLE ports. Another installs FreeBSD-7.2 RELEASE and also updates to STABLE ports. Are there any applications that the FreeBSD-6.4 person cannot install (e.g. the latest apache or VirtualBox)? If so, by what mechanism is he prevented? What are the repercussions of never updating the "core operating system version number"? FYI my experience is with Gentoo which as no "core operating system version number". All system updates come from "portage" (like your ports). > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ > > They are arranged by computer architecture and release number. There > are also stable directories for certain releases. Thank you for providing this. It raises two questions: 1. If the STABLE ports tree is not associated with a "core operating system version number", why are there two directories for STABLE packages: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-6-stable/ ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/ 2. What is the difference between these two? ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7.2-release/ ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/ My guess: The first is the packages that were made available in the 7.2 RELEASE CDs. The second is a directory that is re-created every 5 minutes by updating the ports collection and compiling all the applications in it. Thank you for your help! Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 21:33:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3605106568B for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdv@roalddevries.nl) Received: from smtp02.online.nl (smtp02.online.nl [194.134.41.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6B68FC15 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:33:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp02.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4EDA218 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:15:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.16] (s55927db8.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.125.184]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:15:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <695FE1DB-81E6-41C3-94FF-2858E57D86A5@roalddevries.nl> From: Roald de Vries To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:15:16 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp02.online.nl) Subject: fusefs-sshfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:33:42 -0000 Dear all, I've installed fusefs-sshfs, and added fusefs_enable="YES" to rc.conf. During startup, I see fusefs being started, but when I do: "sshfs remote:~ /media/remote", I get "fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or directory". Any idea why? Thanks in advance. Kind regards, Roald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 21:36:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B79106568E for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4B78FC52 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:36:14 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KOJ00613IO5S0U0@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:36:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A89CD4C.8030206@videotron.ca> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:36:12 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: "b. f." References: In-reply-to: Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: plip0 & GEOM_LABEL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:36:14 -0000 b. f. wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 03:00:31PM -0400, PJ wrote: >> >>> version 7.2 GENERIC kernel >>> on bootup, >>> dmesg shows plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag >>> > > > >>Is this significant? Of what? > > >> It means that someone should update this driver. But unless you are using your >> parallel port for IP traffic (and who does these days?) it won't bother you. >> > > I do, occasionally. It comes in handy with some older hardware, and > in an emergency. > > As computers with multiple processors became more common, large parts > of the operating system were rewritten to work both safely and > efficiently with multiple processors; however, there remain some areas > where more work needs to be done, and developers added such messages > as a reminder and a warning. Up until recently, plip(4) was one of > those places, but John Baldwin fixed this for FreeBSD 8. > > > >>> Then, GEOM_LABEL: bunch of labels removed.... >>> Same question? >>> > > >> The geom software now automatically assigns (unchanging) labels to UFS >> filesystems. This enables people to mount filesystems correctly even if the >> harddisk is moved to a different controller. E.g. /dev/da4s1g might become >> /dev/da6s1g, but its labeled device /dev/ufsid/482e0880cf225c60 would not >> change. The labels are removed if a partition is mounted, which the warning >> mentions. It is harmless. >> >> >>> And how to I get rid of the GEOM_LABEL: stuff - it seems unnecessary... >>> > > >> You might have to dig into the geom code... :-) >> > > If you really don't want it, remove: > > options GEOM_LABEL > > from your kernel and rebuild. You can always load it as a kernel > module if you later find that you need it. > > b. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Thank you gentlemen, I see it is all harmless. Thanks again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 21:44:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFCE106564A for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:44:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5F48FC65 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7HLign7024186; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:44:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8FAB2BA90; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:44:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:44:42 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Chris Stankevitz Message-ID: <20090817214442.GA4135@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:44:45 -0000 --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 01:27:42PM -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > Hello, I have two questions: >=20 > 1. Is it true that I have the choice to run these versions of FreeBSD: >=20 > 8.0 CURRENT > 7.2 RELEASE > 7.2 STABLE > 7.2 CURRENT > 7.1 RELEASE > 7.1 STABLE > 7.1 CURRENT > 7.0 RELEASE > 7.0 STABLE > 7.0 CURRENT > 6.4 RELEASE > 6.4 STABLE > 6.4 CURRENT More or less. You can run any version you can get a CD of or that you can check out of the source repository. But not all of them are supported. Currently 6.4 and 7.2 are supported, and 8.0 is in beta.=20 =20 > 2. For each of the versions above, what version of GCC and VirtualBox is= =20 > available?=20 The ports tree in general is not tied to a particular version of FreeBSD. B= ut some ports might be. Particularly, virtualbox requires 7.x. From /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/Makefile: =2Eif ${OSVERSION} < 700000 BROKEN=3D Does not compile on FreeBSD 6.X =2Eendif > I don't intend for this questions to directly be answered --=20 > I'm hoping for a site that lists the versions of all packages available= =20 > for a particular version of FreeBSD like this page for gentoo:=20 AFAIK, packages for a release are built from a snapshot of the ports system taken at the moment that a release is made. You can find these on FTP serve= rs, e.g. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.2-release/ for 7.2 release on the i386 platform. You should of course use a mirror that is close to you. Not all ports are available as packages, for several possi= ble reasons. Virtualbox is only available in the packages for 7-stable. If you want to be on the bleeding edge, you'll probably want to compile por= ts =66rom source. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqJz0oACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUKQACfeq2uwrZSQsZzF/g+rkeBP4Qj cdcAn15YeK0WeIzDie+R78vx3GRNfIrQ =jBwQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 21:46:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B5B106568D for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout014.mac.com (asmtpout014.mac.com [17.148.16.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1454B8FC52 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:46:30 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp014.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KOJ009FXJ5EP630@asmtp014.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Chris Stankevitz In-reply-to: <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:46:26 -0700 References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:46:31 -0000 On Aug 17, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > When I install FreeBSD, I am installing a "core operating system > version number" (your term). Most people install FreeBSD from a release CD; ie, they install 6.4- RELEASE, or 7.2-RELEASE, or similar. > Then I may choose to install the "ports" as either "STABLE" or > "CURRENT" neither of which is associated with any "core operating > system version number". From this point on, all application updates > will arrive via "ports" . Ports are not branched-- there is no STABLE or CURRENT for ports. The same ports tree can be used on 6.x, 7.x, and 8-CURRENT. > A question: > > Imaging one person installs FreeBSD-6.4 RELEASE and updates to > STABLE ports. Another installs FreeBSD-7.2 RELEASE and also updates > to STABLE ports. Are there any applications that the FreeBSD-6.4 > person cannot install (e.g. the latest apache or VirtualBox)? If a port does not compile on a given OS version, something like the following is used in the port Makefile: ./audio/mumble/Makefile-.if ${OSVERSION} < 700000 ./audio/mumble/Makefile:BROKEN= Does not compile on FreeBSD < 7.0 ./audio/mumble/Makefile-.endif The same mechanism can be used for ports that do not compile on a particular architecture, such as amd64 or sparc. See: http://www.freshports.org/ports-broken.php > If so, by what mechanism is he prevented? The port Makefiles will return an error if/when the port is known to be broken under a certain circumstance. > What are the repercussions of never updating the "core operating > system version number"? Well, you'll miss ongoing security updates and improvements to the system. Eventually, if you refuse to update the base OS for a very long period of time (years), you'll end up running an unsupported version of the OS and some of the ongoing updates to the ports tree may not work properly. > FYI my experience is with Gentoo which as no "core operating system > version number". All system updates come from "portage" (like your > ports). > > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ > > > > They are arranged by computer architecture and release number. > There > > are also stable directories for certain releases. > > Thank you for providing this. It raises two questions: > > 1. If the STABLE ports tree is not associated with a "core operating > system version number", why are there two directories for STABLE > packages: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-6-stable/ > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/ When you compile something, you normally end up with runtime dependencies upon a particular version of the C libraries, so the packages for 6-STABLE and 7-STABLE are not the same. However, 6- STABLE packages should run on a 7.x OS if you've got the misc/compat6x port installed, which makes the 6.x shared libraries available on a 7.x or 8.x version FreeBSD. > 2. What is the difference between these two? > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7.2-release/ > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/ > > My guess: > The first is the packages that were made available in the 7.2 > RELEASE CDs. You're right, here. > The second is a directory that is re-created every 5 minutes by > updating the ports collection and compiling all the applications in > it. Sort of. It takes longer than 5 minutes to rebuild all ~20K ports, but yes, the 7-stable packages are updated continuously over time.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 22:09:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68471106568C for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:09:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cstankevitz@toyon.com) Received: from smtp1.toyon.com (206-190-77-154.static.twtelecom.net [206.190.77.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1432C8FC3F for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.1.101] (hosts253.toyon.com [65.160.147.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.toyon.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n7HMDuT8004550; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:13:57 -0700 Message-ID: <4A89D4F9.9020508@toyon.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:08:57 -0700 From: Chris Stankevitz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com><4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:09:07 -0000 Chuck, Thank you for your help. I have two questions: Chuck Swiger wrote: > Ports are not branched-- there is no STABLE or CURRENT for ports. The > same ports tree can be used on 6.x, 7.x, and 8-CURRENT. 1. With what is the STABLE/CURRENT tag associated? a) "core operating system version number" b) the ports collection c) something else >> What are the repercussions of never updating the "core operating >> system version number"? > > Well, you'll miss ongoing security updates and improvements to the > system. 2. I thought security updates and improvements to the system would arrive via the ports mechanism. What kinds of things are not updated via ports? (My experience is with Gentoo where everything is updated via portage and there is no "core operating system version number"). Thanks again, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 22:33:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9E6106568D for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18F98FC3D for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7233254E1F; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:33:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:33:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references; s=smtpout; bh=1/6VZHdVrkTE/zvX9YxX9OOzeeY=; b=SFX9pPaHcxsS0FRjtaKEpFl6cyN3IbAFXtA0qUcnrELqBZCdQA5T4al0jMMIONqNPp3EuEa9ptaOifU3pvw6kEcWIijY44tN8bDrbj/q1dThpl3NHHpCYbROcc34vP6yjHirj0saoj3bAWrS7uoSxHp58iF+4ArcOPmE3nP8o9c= X-Sasl-enc: /PHM9Mj5tCY+yd0tqOGcR4VuQJIXBvNpQhmxQgEUXqOS 1250548392 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A78F94B7; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9393480A-A16E-4273-B758-C6915F9C8111@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: BONGANI MANGANYE <205038328@cput.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <4A894DFB.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:33:09 -0500 References: <4A894DFB.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:33:14 -0000 On Aug 17, 2009, at 5:30 AM, BONGANI MANGANYE wrote: > am doing research about freebsd ,so can you help me with this > information > 1. features, benefits and setbacks > 2. Functionality and features > 3. versions, strong and weak points > 4. Unique features I am delighted that university courses are assigning research projects like this. Point 4 on your list will not only require looking at information about FreeBSD but at its alternatives. When you are done with the assignment, please put it up on a website and post a link to it back here. Many members of this mailing list would enjoy reading it. People may even be willing to comment on drafts (check to see whether that is alright with the person who assigned this project.) Best wishes with your assignment. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 22:38:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144E8106568B for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f227.google.com (mail-gx0-f227.google.com [209.85.217.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F748FC5B for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:38:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk27 with SMTP id 27so4225204gxk.12 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:38:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VpwBNGR9tqP1XPmtviNpPzmBskcnUKMlAy8dohmAp0U=; b=dRpqdxWxvT89F0/aQsoOk15x5uZ4E2PE8hkjy2Yf2n7M+oAhSo+VSXz2/0mH/UE+Lh pnfGW2jZZaWOGGDLW8p3vWyFiZ0IbREX42JXEw2giko+44bV2khwmU+ie5fDLBycB+ss Z1YewKvG+esMZMyZPDwKxZG3h+xX0hBxHFZwM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=JAFXt/l9DQhbCJb63AuXreF8pYz1g4Kg5leny+D4CxhXLFeu0PuYUezJt7nsOK50lr RYMliPe9oSyCt9EZFcMUU1HCb5+yqtG1O/tqDEJyxp+I3jGC6aKKIpi1/ja6TB7Q50Z2 NtabyM4Jj9dzkyYT8felS0yd34TT6hsrGauaQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.10.2 with SMTP id 2mr6493571ybj.312.1250548681089; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:38:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A89D4F9.9020508@toyon.com> References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> <4A89D4F9.9020508@toyon.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:38:01 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908171538i1e37fed0s56402edc62f523f6@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Chris Stankevitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:38:02 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Chuck, > > Thank you for your help. I have two questions: > > Chuck Swiger wrote: > >> Ports are not branched-- there is no STABLE or CURRENT for ports. The >> same ports tree can be used on 6.x, 7.x, and 8-CURRENT. >> > > 1. With what is the STABLE/CURRENT tag associated? Release/Stable/Current are related to the FreeBSD branch eg 6, 7, 8 > > a) "core operating system version number" > b) the ports collection > c) something else > > What are the repercussions of never updating the "core operating system >>> version number"? >>> >> >> Well, you'll miss ongoing security updates and improvements to the system. >> > > 2. I thought security updates and improvements to the system would arrive > via the ports mechanism. What kinds of things are not updated via ports? > (My experience is with Gentoo where everything is updated via portage and > there is no "core operating system version number"). > > Thanks again, > > Chris > > Ports are 3rd party apps not in the base system, things like apache and postgresql are part of ports not base system. Things like cp and tar are part of base system and not ports. FreeBSD userland and kernel is not part of ports system these are updated seperately using things like freebsd-update. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 22:39:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4DC106568F for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cstankevitz@toyon.com) Received: from smtp1.toyon.com (206-190-77-154.static.twtelecom.net [206.190.77.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E6E8FC3F for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.1.101] (hosts253.toyon.com [65.160.147.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.toyon.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n7HMi40o004714; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:44:04 -0700 Message-ID: <4A89DC07.6000003@toyon.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:39:03 -0700 From: Chris Stankevitz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> <4A89D4F9.9020508@toyon.com> <1BF62A37-3371-4788-B241-47A591C8666B@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <1BF62A37-3371-4788-B241-47A591C8666B@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:39:14 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > If you just want security updates and no other changes, you'd update > against RELENG_7_2 instead. Here are you referring only to security updates to the "core OS" and not applications in "ports" such as Firefox? > In the BSDs, the baseline or core OS is separate > from installed ports or packages, and is updated separately from them. What's an example of something that is in "the core OS" and not in the "ports"? GCC? the shells? the kernel? Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 22:41:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A915D106568C for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F4B8FC3D for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so3484639bwz.37 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:41:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EzDsjudKCXAWj7KZ47OkkLLFQ2epsDh8qRnIHdats0g=; b=DNzmOvpnz/XT/FH3PE5QIId3/pkPdR6fBrLmH5oH6Ddbzp2aRXXc8/QpllkaQpHGY9 jxPnH6IJROad/6GLfs/rIJj/L2Nmp6qeyhRWqzRop7svD5RKgYreylUzXmu4QgMyKGPi 19QsgT9iYR1HrwHduUvxK2clKyAfBsnNRBIZo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Q79eEJNqchgu+CaKuSM/E3Qm/ObcJCzyXvFGyuyJwGAlQ3KEO1YtmFsnD6OR1z+iJh 8E9jzd89SO1uGJD1h9+XUyWd3au9uUwo/wXgJu8/E7Jyigr4gSNjOfbGsfIr1rEoGakO TiZzxwpKfuyTrjMeNzIsLJ7dJWsT/7BLsxuBA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.2.69 with SMTP id 5mr913573fai.88.1250548872082; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:41:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A89D4F9.9020508@toyon.com> References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> <4A89D4F9.9020508@toyon.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:41:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Chris Stankevitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:41:13 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Chris Stankevitz wr= ote: > Chuck, > > Thank you for your help. =A0I have two questions: > > Chuck Swiger wrote: >> >> Ports are not branched-- there is no STABLE or CURRENT for ports. =A0The >> same ports tree can be used on 6.x, 7.x, and 8-CURRENT. > > 1. With what is the STABLE/CURRENT tag associated? > a) "core operating system version number" > b) the ports collection > c) something else Ports is a system created to install and manage third party applications that are separate from the core operating system. Although they are separate, it is good to have them in sync so that they are compiled using the same libraries, etc. Therefore, there is an attempt to associate packages (compiled versions of ports) with the version of the operating system upon which they were compiled. RELEASE, STABLE and CURRENT, refer to the core system. RELEASE refers to the version of the operating system that was released with release notes, etc. When you update the core operating system, you can use cvsup to download changes to the source code. STABLE and CURRENT tell cvsup what set of changes you want to download. STABLE is what it sounds like. The changes include patches related to security issues and bugs. New features may be included, but are considered too risky or experimental. CURRENT will put you on the bleeding edge. > >>> What are the repercussions of never updating the "core operating system >>> version number"? >> >> Well, you'll miss ongoing security updates and improvements to the syste= m. > > 2. I thought security updates and improvements to the system would arrive > via the ports mechanism. =A0What kinds of things are not updated via port= s? > =A0(My experience is with Gentoo where everything is updated via portage = and > there is no "core operating system version number"). This is addressed above. I would add, though, that the cvsup mechanism can be used to download updates to the ports system and documentation, in addition to changes to the core system. > > Thanks again, > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 22:43:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14372106568F for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout019.mac.com (asmtpout019.mac.com [17.148.16.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C908FC43 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:43:30 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp019.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KOJ00JBCLSIIC60@asmtp019.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <0AB6B949-DA5D-4337-91A7-71A9287932D9@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Chris Stankevitz In-reply-to: <4A89DC07.6000003@toyon.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:43:30 -0700 References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> <4A89D4F9.9020508@toyon.com> <1BF62A37-3371-4788-B241-47A591C8666B@mac.com> <4A89DC07.6000003@toyon.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:43:31 -0000 On Aug 17, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Chuck Swiger wrote: >> If you just want security updates and no other changes, you'd >> update against RELENG_7_2 instead. > > Here are you referring only to security updates to the "core OS" and > not applications in "ports" such as Firefox? That's right, yes. >> In the BSDs, the baseline or core OS is separate from installed >> ports or packages, and is updated separately from them. > > What's an example of something that is in "the core OS" and not in > the "ports"? GCC? the shells? the kernel? Yes, all of the above. Basically, ports (or packages) install under / usr/local; everything else under /bin, /usr/bin, etc is part of the core OS. However, if you wanted to install another version of GCC, you could have both the one which comes with the system and a port version present. Likewise for things like sendmail, BIND, openssl, and so forth which normally come with the core OS, but may not be updated as rapidly as the version in ports is. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 22:44:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6ACC1065694 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: from hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (hal.Rescomp.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.70.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2AB8FC60 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (Postfix, from userid 1225) id 4C562597CBC; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:44:04 -0700 From: Chris Cowart To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20090817224403.GD51584@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20090815234920.GA9094@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="G3juXO9GfR42w+sw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090815234920.GA9094@thought.org> Organization: RSSP-IT, UC Berkeley User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: script to send out a dozen letters? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:44:05 -0000 --G3juXO9GfR42w+sw Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8/pVXlBMPtxfSuJG" Content-Disposition: inline --8/pVXlBMPtxfSuJG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary Kline wrote: > if there are tools to do this, please point me at them, but i > want to send out a snail and/or email|HTML|whatever to a handful > of companies that i hope to find online. >=20 > I'm guessing the inside address would me something like >=20 > Company Name > Address > Company Email >=20 > Attn Mr. Smith: >=20 > [my canned letter] >=20 >=20 > i forget if the inside address is before the recipient > address--I *think* so. is there a way of having date output > the format "15 August, 2009" rather than my usual, 15aug09? >=20 > I am pretty sure these people are most accustomed to GUI/html=20 > mail, so is there a way of invoking evo with html capability? >=20 > if there are web pointers on this, puleeze clue me in! Here's a script I whipped up a year or two ago that sends out e-mails. You could definitely tweak it to find/replace a LaTeX template and send it directly to the printer (circa the `| sendmail` line). See the included readme (excuse the twiki formatting). While it was written for bash, it may run under /bin/sh (but I make no claims). It's really straightforward. I would die a little inside if it were used to send HTML e-mail, but there's nothing to stop you from writing HTML (by hand) into the template (or saving a message out of your GUI MUA of choice into a flat file and using that as your template). --=20 Chris Cowart Network Technical Lead Network & Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT UC Berkeley --8/pVXlBMPtxfSuJG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=automail Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable #! /bin/bash if [ -z "$1" ] || [ -z "$2" ] || [ "x$1" =3D=3D "x--help" ]; then printf "Usage:\n\t${0} data_file template_file [cc1 [cc2 ... ]]\n" exit 1 fi data=3D"$1" shift template=3D"$1" shift exec 0<${data} read line FIELDS=3D"$(echo $line | tr ';' ' ')" while read line ; do column=3D1 SCRIPT=3D"" email=3D"" for field_title in $FIELDS ; do datum=3D$(echo "$line" | cut '-d;' "-f${column}") SCRIPT=3D"${SCRIPT:+${SCRIPT};}s:$field_title:$datum:" column=3D$(($column + 1)) if [ "$field_title" =3D "EMAIL" ] ; then email=3D"$datum" fi done printf "Mailing %s... " "$email" sed "$SCRIPT" "$template" | sendmail "$email $@" || {=20 echo "Something error happened" ; continue; } printf "Success!\n" done --8/pVXlBMPtxfSuJG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=README Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---+ Overview The =3Dautomail=3D script allows you to send templated e-mails to a list of recipients. This is particularly useful during hiring. ---+ Usage The =3Dautomail=3D script is installed on hal.=20 ---++ The Data File You must prepare a file with the data that will be used to fill in the templates. The first line of this file includes the case-sensitive field names,=20 separated by semi-colons. Each subsequent line is a data record. One e-mail will be sent for each data record in the file. *Example:* EMAIL;LNAME;FNAME;FOOD ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu;Cowart;Chris;Bananas keenanp@rescomp.berkeley.edu;Keenan;Parms;Ice Cream jeremydw@rescomp.berkeley.edu;Jeremy;Weinstein;Rabbit Food Call this file ~/email_data. *Note:* The only column title with special meaning is "EMAIL" and it *must* appear in the data file. All other columns follow brain-dead substitutions and do not affect the behavior of the automailer. ---++ The Template File Here, you compose your e-mail. Note you must conform to RFC822 (Here's a summary of the relevant points): * You must include the To, From, Cc, and Subject headers. * Headers must be properly formatted (=3DName: Contents Can Have Spaces= =3D) * The headers end with a blank line. There must be a blank line before you begin your message. *Example:* =46rom: The Party Planning Committee To: FNAME LNAME Subject: The Potluck Hello FNAME, Please remember to bring FOOD to the potluck. Thanks, The Party Planning Committee Call this file ~/email_template. *Note:*=20 * Column titles (see The Data File section) will be substituted with the current record's column contents. The address in the EMAIL column will receive a copy of the message.=20 * Including a Cc or Bcc header in the template will *NOT* affect who receives a copy of the message. *Warning:* The recipient will receive the message AS-IS.=20 __Bcc Headers will not be filtered__. ---++ Sending the Message After you declare the data file and template file (in that order), you may add e-mail addresses to the command line (e.g., hiring@rescomp.berkeley.edu= ). Note that other than the recipient address, no addresses (Bcc or Cc) are parsed from your message's headers. As such, if you have cc or bcc recipien= ts, you must declare them here. Note also that declaring recipients here does *not* affect the To/From/Cc/Bcc headers in the actual e-mail message. =3Dautomail ~/email_data ~/email_template cc_address1 bcc_address2=3D --8/pVXlBMPtxfSuJG-- --G3juXO9GfR42w+sw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAwAGBQJKid0zAAoJEC8b9sM8ejXtiUQP/2ohDLymlOWHGp2HSTuY3yNg +iCvtpIHUZut7uiVa6+wRuNMSWN2h5z+OtaJMTwTE5/RrA0rYxxAOCNDW+iJGxX7 kYn0/ZX7iSJI4WWdJB03o0ehSsp0JUHaj50KRXjEXNTryvy5wfjB897gQNZ83LLy pjoOQh7kJ2Kw1QkMJGkqxT4z9mrNJEnGu2MGIHb5OHxAgzLFmo+37lX8lM8rm/kr wjKQOwCUm76RlmrqnhngEXDL78JOp0tFofs/QqUtvx5uwqTHfYlIVLbsGKwvck5E Yjna1ZzcZfwOJ9woyLZcs4py2XutJHCoOQSw6LbPRY01uVevbr4O4W6hcCb7ju/L rGyHHIqv+NAA9cM8ix/yodrDRF1Sn4J4lynnRe2CsmlZwK2KiL/G0ZU1P4jbGznC tQNn3uP7HbBbdv5kU/7prFW38gW0ZnJ69iQ4FPQoCAxNw3UiSy72sfQGYH0HK/yq r7vOMoTRfsZmxM71wGq6c/OmiQmdeKgkIheiRvuyNhIg/nXIRGVb4VLEfbAaQ8SG QQCQrjiu9IlU6EUsNwZNYxxxPXpn8kY04vBE5NLyI2h8uPHi6wvQUT33tTNj/Ryc OSOsPXiR7lwIuGp3aBMp3nAX6MBF9Eb4IJO4o593aW30hZSeyNjiwGPjVQ1AfnKK CmYIle6dLj9cQ9XT6Nsz =aISO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --G3juXO9GfR42w+sw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 22:48:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D941065690 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:48:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CFC8FC68 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1101479qwe.7 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:48:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wHQkpJkD2Zk8npFIojUDePDBA5PCHHRQW4Dt99lzuUw=; b=WY1ZG+ARtS5t6Rg4EyxIVp+lbrNqmwI1pVbjaWZme/0m4NzOgLUGIVgtapTkGiLegY LwGtn9HvTbfStQ/kV/OBi8VMY53jEfuebxlz43vDz2e51/0/7Jp9I0QhaATk9grUufD+ Zz8aC8KncfLgNkZzcX0ZES0SuWVFdiiSXCLSg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=DugrnWGC6QsLn8MiiXeV5KQF+aAEGELsVTrL7hT0SCvvZcptyYMEIlwXo4frstztHt 41nWsdh0IQiMffVWGK7ZVxoyuX9Aqru+fqRPRoj990cSKz+kDBS+WUFg1FD8+0Rrm12L x8FceEjLbftproo9kIxGw5TixW2AHgHM/V0LQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.58.201 with SMTP id i9mr4843146qah.8.1250549290946; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:48:10 -0400 Message-ID: From: Eitan Adler To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: freebsd-update to -BETA2 p1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:48:12 -0000 AlphaBeta# freebsd-update fetch install Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 8.0-BETA2 from update5.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. No updates needed to update system to 8.0-BETA2-p1. WARNING: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 HAS PASSED ITS END-OF-LIFE DATE. Any security issues discovered after Thu Aug 13 20:00:00 EDT 2009 will not have been corrected. AlphaBeta# freebsd-update install No updates are available to install. Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch' first. AlphaBeta# uname -a FreeBSD AlphaBeta 8.0-BETA2 FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #0: Wed Jul 15 23:25:30 UTC 2009 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 22:49:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C76110656BC for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DC58FC75 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 22so612449eye.7 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:49:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v5JwE1nG/4r5NJ2yl6Y38sEzGIb8MlnmS+5nOeJPyCw=; b=uCldc/rT8p0Em0SO/qM18STz1WZE6YVZIcs7gw2tJdDei+BXrvFyXpzFL4z8JHGcvs ifOmsaT6iF3bxVy6MsI3aZzUW7EajLrpM2bvtnip9eVy88iZtZ76UYUZ6a7eaMdrkRlT Sx6pD5wKbrwYpG+neVN4uCvfgKnjvocj183to= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=r+gkuT4GsiJ1CUCTIcX96Er7D7yl3x8xAdhn41XphJ61EFfwTsQoub8/c6jaPvY5I9 WW1Fp+7I5mWthz1ad/uOwqZt0MJASn89JPzw/FdIsrnyOk3uTFXqgVrEbtB6wx8H1O9u ksdo/vtU/MGmF+DxemwX4ykR7N1KJ9cxhEQ/0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.11.212 with SMTP id 62mr1102820wex.186.1250549366522; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:49:26 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:49:29 -0000 >When I install FreeBSD, I am installing a "core operating system version >number" (your term). Yes. The kernel and a few important libraries and utilities comprise the base system. They are kept separate from FreeBSD Ports, unlike in Gentoo, where you can for example update your kernel or other parts of the base system via Portage. Sometimes there are ports that overlap in functionality with parts of the base system -- for example, there are separate versions of openssl, openssh, gcc, kerberos, etc. in both the base system and in ports -- but they are always updated independently, and if you install a port with overlapping functionality it will never overwrite the base system, but just coexist with it. >Then I may choose to install the "ports" as either >"STABLE" or "CURRENT" neither of which is associated with any "core >operating system version number". From this point on, all application >updates will arrive via "ports" . The current FreeBSD Ports tree always contains the latest ports -- there is no separation into "stable" and "testing" branches like with Portage, and there are no separate branches for different architectures or different supported versions of the base system, although some ports will not build for all of them. (There are of course separate precompiled binary packages for the different supported architectures and versions of the base system, although they are all built with the same ports tree.) If you want don't want to live on the cutting edge, then you can use a snapshot of the ports tree or the corresponding pre-built binary packages that were shipped with a FreeBSD release, as the ports tree is typically frozen and tested immediately before a release. Of course, you are free to pick any other snapshot that you want, or to use some other packaging system like NetBSD's pkgsrc, for example. (This summer someone was porting Portage to NetBSD, so maybe you will be able to use Portage soon, too.) >Imaging one person installs FreeBSD-6.4 RELEASE and updates to STABLE >ports. Another installs FreeBSD-7.2 RELEASE and also updates to STABLE >ports. Are there any applications that the FreeBSD-6.4 person cannot >install (e.g. the latest apache or VirtualBox)? Sometimes there are ports that are marked as broken on certain architectures or versions of the base system. >If so, by what >mechanism is he prevented? Some lines in the port Makefile. Of course, you are free to tinker -- many ports marked as broken can be patched to work just fine, only no one has gotten around to doing it yet. What are the repercussions of never updating >the "core operating system version number"? Just like in Linux, the rest of the world moves on -- not all recent improvements to the base system are backported to earlier versions of the base system, and developers are reluctant to spend a lot of time and energy fixing problems on very old versions of the base system. Eventually, official support is dropped and you're on your own. >1. If the STABLE ports tree is not associated with a "core operating >system version number", why are there two directories for STABLE packages: >ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-6-stable/ >ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/ The ports tree is not associated with any one base system version, but the pre-built binary packages _are_. If 6.4 is the latest release of the base system in the 6.x branch, then 6-stable is the testing version of the base system that willl eventually become 6.5. Occasionally, changes made since the last release change the interface between the base system and other software, so binary packages built against 6.4 may not work on 6-stable. The 6-stable directory above should contain binary packages built with a recent snapshot of the ports tree on a recent snapshot of 6-stable, and so on. >2. What is the difference between these two? >ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7.2-release/ >ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/ >My guess: >The first is the packages that were made available in the 7.2 RELEASE CDs. Yes. >The second is a directory that is re-created every 5 minutes by updating >the ports collection and compiling all the applications in it. Well, not every _five_ minutes. :) b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 23:13:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55AC106568B for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cstankevitz@toyon.com) Received: from smtp1.toyon.com (206-190-77-154.static.twtelecom.net [206.190.77.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03188FC55 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.1.101] (hosts253.toyon.com [65.160.147.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.toyon.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n7HNHp0m004936; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:17:51 -0700 Message-ID: <4A89E3F2.80207@toyon.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:12:50 -0700 From: Chris Stankevitz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> <4A89D4F9.9020508@toyon.com> <1BF62A37-3371-4788-B241-47A591C8666B@mac.com> <4A89DC07.6000003@toyon.com> <0AB6B949-DA5D-4337-91A7-71A9287932D9@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <0AB6B949-DA5D-4337-91A7-71A9287932D9@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:13:01 -0000 Chuck Swiger wrote: > Yes, all of the above. Basically, ports (or packages) install under > /usr/local; everything else under /bin, /usr/bin, etc is part of the > core OS. Okay, I think I understand now. Applications on a FreeBSD machine are broken into two categories: 1. Applications installed under /bin, /usr/bin, etc 2. Applications installed under /usr/local The first group is called "core OS applications". The second is called "ports applications." FreeBSD developers think carefully before deciding in which group to place a new application. Update applications in the first group using freebsd-update but first decide whether you want RELEASE, STABLE, or CURRENT. Update applications in the second group using CVS on the ports tree. Sometimes applications in the second group will require an update to the first group with a message like "Does not compile on FreeBSD < 7.0" Some applications are in both groups and can exist simultaneously, such as GCC. Thank you for your help everyone. I am eager to try FreeBSD -- I had to install it recently and I loved the documentation. Been using Gentoo for many years. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 23:19:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A4C1065672 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout018.mac.com (asmtpout018.mac.com [17.148.16.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43378FC15 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:19:02 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp018.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KOJ006C6KN74C50@asmtp018.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <1BF62A37-3371-4788-B241-47A591C8666B@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Chris Stankevitz In-reply-to: <4A89D4F9.9020508@toyon.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:18:43 -0700 References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> <4A89D4F9.9020508@toyon.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:19:02 -0000 On Aug 17, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Chuck Swiger wrote: >> Ports are not branched-- there is no STABLE or CURRENT for ports. >> The same ports tree can be used on 6.x, 7.x, and 8-CURRENT. > > 1. With what is the STABLE/CURRENT tag associated? > a) "core operating system version number" > b) the ports collection > c) something else The core OS. If you install 7.2-RELEASE, and then update the OS software against 7-STABLE (which is CVS tag RELENG_7), you will get security fixes and other changes which will eventually become 7.3- RELEASE. If you just want security updates and no other changes, you'd update against RELENG_7_2 instead. >>> What are the repercussions of never updating the "core operating >>> system version number"? >> Well, you'll miss ongoing security updates and improvements to the >> system. > > 2. I thought security updates and improvements to the system would > arrive via the ports mechanism. What kinds of things are not updated > via ports? (My experience is with Gentoo where everything is > updated via portage and there is no "core operating system version > number"). In other platforms, everything is a package, and can be updated via portage, yum, etc. In the BSDs, the baseline or core OS is separate from installed ports or packages, and is updated separately from them. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 23:31:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B2C106568E for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339E38FC52 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7HNSGGl070222; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:28:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n7HNSGPN070221; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:28:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:28:16 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Chris Stankevitz Message-ID: <20090817232816.GA69468@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:31:25 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 02:22:32PM -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Andrew Gould wrote: > >Once you're installed a RELEASE, you can update it to STABLE by > > Andrew, > > Thank you for your helpful reply. Please tell me if you think I have > the correct understanding: > > When I install FreeBSD, I am installing a "core operating system version > number" (your term). Then I may choose to install the "ports" as either > "STABLE" or "CURRENT" neither of which is associated with any "core > operating system version number". From this point on, all application > updates will arrive via "ports" . You don't have this quite right. The only thing that is versioned and called RELEASE, STABLE or CURRENT with Installation ISO-s for installation is the base OS. You can choose to install any version of the OS that you can get the files for - preferably in an ISO. But, you really want to install the latest RELEASE. The ports are applications. A bunch of them are thrown in with the ISOs because they are so commonly used. But, they are separate from the base OS. Generally a port consists of the source code and a set of procedures for building (configuring, compiling, linking, installing and runtime configuring) the source code in to a running application. The ports are not tied directly to an OS version, Each port is developed 'independantly' from the OS and has its own version designation. But often there are things that they depend on in the OS that may change over different versions. So a given version of a port may only be buildable for a certain range of OS versions - or, more often, the libraries that are part of the OS. Many ports are utilities that run under several different operating systems. The developers(maintainers) have just created the small variations in code and build procedures to make it run on each OS and each OS version. Some maintainers or other developers take a port and build it on and for a specific version of the OS (a RELEASE of the OS). They bundle it into a nice file or set of files that can be copied to your system and applied with little extra work. The compiling, linking and even some of the configuring are all done for you - generally presuming the most commonly used settings. These are called packages and these generally are good for only one version of one OS each. There may be a number of packages available for a port built for different versions of the OS. OpenOffice is a good example. It can be installed from a port - completely built from the source and makefiles. I have done it successfully several times. But it is a very big port and very cumbersom and time consuming to build that way. So probably most people just get the prebuilt package and install that. > > A question: > > Imaging one person installs FreeBSD-6.4 RELEASE and updates to STABLE > ports. Another installs FreeBSD-7.2 RELEASE and also updates to STABLE > ports. Are there any applications that the FreeBSD-6.4 person cannot > install (e.g. the latest apache or VirtualBox)? If so, by what > mechanism is he prevented? What are the repercussions of never updating > the "core operating system version number"? Your first sentence here already is off track. You would not update to STABLE ports. Ports are what they are. You might update the base OS to STABLE. There may (and probably are) some ports that run on 7.2 RELEASE that will not run on an earlier (6.4 version of the OS. That is because the libraries will have been modified and the ports are always built for the latest OS version. The exception is if you download the ISO set for a particular OS version, burn them on CDs and install the port from the CDs. Of course, these CDs will not change. But the next set of ISOs you download for a later OS version will be upgraded to go with that OS version. > > FYI my experience is with Gentoo which as no "core operating system > version number". All system updates come from "portage" (like your ports). Yup. Different concept. Lately I am having to muck with some Linux stuff and after dealing with FreeBSD for 11 years or so, find the Lunix to be very clunky. > > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ > > > > They are arranged by computer architecture and release number. There > > are also stable directories for certain releases. Pretty much any computer architecture that FreeBSD supports will have the same OS version available. You do have to distinguish between Intel/AMD 32 and 64 bit and Sparc and DEC and some of those. But once you get the right ISO, the rest falls in place. > > Thank you for providing this. It raises two questions: > > 1. If the STABLE ports tree is not associated with a "core operating > system version number", why are there two directories for STABLE packages: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-6-stable/ > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/ > > 2. What is the difference between these two? > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7.2-release/ > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-7-stable/ Note that these are packages, instead of ports. See discussion above. ////jerry > > My guess: > The first is the packages that were made available in the 7.2 RELEASE CDs. > > The second is a directory that is re-created every 5 minutes by updating > the ports collection and compiling all the applications in it. > > Thank you for your help! > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 00:23:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C80106568C for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB848FC43 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:23:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7I0NeSZ005889 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:41 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090818002341.GA83528@thought.org> References: <20090815234920.GA9094@thought.org> <20090817224403.GD51584@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090817224403.GD51584@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: Re: script to send out a dozen letters? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:23:56 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 03:44:04PM -0700, Chris Cowart wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: [[ ... ]] > > Here's a script I whipped up a year or two ago that sends out e-mails. > You could definitely tweak it to find/replace a LaTeX template and send > it directly to the printer (circa the `| sendmail` line). See the > included readme (excuse the twiki formatting). While it was written for > bash, it may run under /bin/sh (but I make no claims). > > It's really straightforward. I would die a little inside if it were used > to send HTML e-mail, but there's nothing to stop you from writing HTML > (by hand) into the template (or saving a message out of your GUI MUA of > choice into a flat file and using that as your template). > > -- > Chris Cowart > Network Technical Lead > Network & Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT > UC Berkeley [[ saving :-) ]] > > > EMAIL;LNAME;FNAME;FOOD > ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu;Cowart;Chris;Bananas > keenanp@rescomp.berkeley.edu;Keenan;Parms;Ice Cream > jeremydw@rescomp.berkeley.edu;Jeremy;Weinstein;Rabbit Food > > > Call this file ~/email_data. > > *Note:* The only column title with special meaning is "EMAIL" and it *must* > appear in the data file. All other columns follow brain-dead substitutions > and do not affect the behavior of the automailer. > > ---++ The Template File > Here, you compose your e-mail. Note you must conform to RFC822 (Here's a > summary of the relevant points): > * You must include the To, From, Cc, and Subject headers. > * Headers must be properly formatted (=Name: Contents Can Have Spaces=) > * The headers end with a blank line. There must be a blank line before > you begin your message. > > *Example:* > > > From: The Party Planning Committee > To: FNAME LNAME > Subject: The Potluck > > Hello FNAME, > > Please remember to bring FOOD to the potluck. > > Thanks, > > The Party Planning Committee > > > Call this file ~/email_template. > > *Note:* > * Column titles (see The Data File section) will be substituted with the > current record's column contents. The address in the EMAIL column will > receive a copy of the message. > * Including a Cc or Bcc header in the template will *NOT* affect who > receives a copy of the message. > > *Warning:* The recipient will receive the message AS-IS. > __Bcc Headers will not be filtered__. > > ---++ Sending the Message > > After you declare the data file and template file (in that order), you may > add e-mail addresses to the command line (e.g., hiring@rescomp.berkeley.edu). > Note that other than the recipient address, no addresses (Bcc or Cc) are > parsed from your message's headers. As such, if you have cc or bcc recipients, > you must declare them here. Note also that declaring recipients here does > *not* affect the To/From/Cc/Bcc headers in the actual e-mail message. > > =automail ~/email_data ~/email_template cc_address1 bcc_address2= Thanks to my friends amd fellow nerds who have come thru with this. It turns out that there were only Seven people/firms for what I originally wanted. [ it had to do with sellinf my book ]. --well, actually there were 8 but the last one seemed like a stuffed shirt, so i passed on that guy. where these kinds of scripts will be useful is when i look for a job as an ethicist. (I know, I know; wall street doesn't know what ethics is... .) still, there are other places where the discipline is essential. later on, people, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 00:45:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7A4106568B for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:45:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walt@wump.org) Received: from que11.charter.net (que11.charter.net [209.225.8.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE2D8FC3F for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090818002334.DVCJ3051.mta31.charter.net@imp09> for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:23:34 -0400 Received: from [10.0.0.10] ([68.116.98.9]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id VcPY1c00Y0C8vLc05cPZVj; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:23:34 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=AtVyRBq9q0AA:10 a=ebNzH6DdAAAA:8 a=wkD1UzASD0FemMH8LDkA:9 a=mrJL0HxUuJsLRKp-1dUA:7 a=Z3O4NpCcy7dKkaMkt3q5k02Cau0A:4 a=Z-IikAJXHoYA:10 a=zbkDLoAsQ4cA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1250520259.1154.33.camel@think.ip> References: <20090817120025.A73D010656FE@hub.freebsd.org> <1250520259.1154.33.camel@think.ip> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:29 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walt Pawley Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:45:29 -0000 At 4:44 PM +0200 8/17/09, Heiner Strau=DF wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:18:45PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> > On 17 August 2009 pm 18:09:06 cpghost wrote: >> > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:25:29AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >> > > > By the way, where did I read that #define macro names have to >> > > > be unique within the first 6 (six) letters? :-) >> > > >> > > The 6 letters limit was actually a restriction of earlier >> > > linkers and it affected all identifiers of linkable objects >> > >> > I did not know that linkers resolved macros those days. >> >> Of course they didn't. But knowing that linkers restricted the >> identifiers' length to 6 chars, it made sense for preprocessors >> to restrict them as well before passing them to the compiler >> and linker. >> >> Actually, it's a bit more complicated than that, but the basic >> restriction came from the linkers, the preprocessors only inherited >> it. >> >> > Interesting. >> > >> > Erich >> >> Regards, >> -cpghost. > >Putting the symbol names in one word helped the linker / loader a lot. >Live was so easy. > >Heiner > >C (one word =3D 32 bit) .NOT. (some word processor software) As something of an ancient curmudgeon these days, I've enjoyed this discussion. As speculation on my part, perhaps the six character limitation is less a software issue than an early architecture issue - DEC's PDP-6/10 design used 36-bit words and packed six characters (clearly from a limited subset of the then current ASCII) per word, making simple searches very effective through symbol tables with a simple word level compare loop. While likely not all that closely related to the issue, I recall a technique I was introduced to on Control Data systems called COSY, in which one punched binary coded Hollerith cards with two characters per column encoded (six bits per character). Of course, such cards required excellent handling equipment (which Control Data had) because a stack of cards punched with 960 holes in each one had lots of opportunity for hanging chads. -- Walter M. Pawley Wump Research & Company 676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97471 541-672-8975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 01:33:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A87106568B; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rysto32@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AD58FC3F; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so208715ewy.43 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:33:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kyWkZFIE/YPqQdFvSfdr1sxfhxa9ExTRob0bzwI1grU=; b=CIPAnj0Cfjd/YH25RPOg51vDZjxvbgHXTG9NxmOpg5M0uQaZjPdrY0hfZtaDBn0bFc np3UmZ4TBzQflA4lMCltt9Rnk/rSQdXz1OElT8I01Baaj4aPFuhfSOg/bmu9Bvg28aeb 3yvNV4P0YKTEZRyAiqOp0ZYZnA+MQR+MZdo2Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=hb8rOnRIOoqXT3h4dOEeyNoiyHCLbUqZFJomlCEJquxNktFqTo1oeNsCGKwmh8Mnj3 zRw/zu+YAQnp3rvEhl/kbFSEjr7ubKYB16Xm4Ml0nzqnRr87dn5pf+tr2xE/uVWOzjzc dSK1epbeT6or4fymugu8ziOch7Df1GHKrTUbM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.63.16 with SMTP id l16mr210478eba.27.1250557602739; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:06:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200908171658.n7HGwqc3041735@casselton.net> References: <20090817135752.GA73485@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <200908171658.n7HGwqc3041735@casselton.net> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:06:42 -0400 Message-ID: From: Ryan Stone To: Mark Tinguely Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, mexas@bristol.ac.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports lang/gcc4x fail to build on ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:33:40 -0000 That error is gcc oh-so-helpfully telling you that it decided not to inline an function declared inline. Why the gcc devs decided that was deserving of a diagnostic on -Wall is beyond me. I think that you can squelch it by passing -Wno-inline to gcc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 01:45:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18ED4106568E for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C742E8FC52 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so4400069yxe.3 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:45:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nvXLVidP0ZewNCK76sgwq2mJn1FQ7ruXI5QlwiCFeIM=; b=iDAEA8qb1GTl7rwFeLZI11fhpmqcAT66F6bnwfS3VoCcOOIFUQwNWI75RryhZ22uw2 SJob+qPEojg6wruru1BZhcTa9DzH28GMjULTVZPC4qAHnCK5gy5bvwLMXudWoCTs0cCo z9dBJIqBYBA4p8kriKJg3FCpoaPFTVKr0cuWQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=E8YWueAGCXxyzYleCT6TD5Xr0RwUFj/LTYlHkVdwlDqQ5Q9NH/t1gOT+4wF6L8KRS6 UkPtZyvOeTOD3tSp0CNRzS0Zn8zfo8dTtAr7p9WJ7FKC1T5jeFFCv73Iq26kOWWYUYFA Hyy9Ce6nzSeLZ7qsyNqmetW+OcN4kN83+PFII= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.62.19 with SMTP id k19mr6865691yba.15.1250559916875; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:45:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <695FE1DB-81E6-41C3-94FF-2858E57D86A5@roalddevries.nl> References: <695FE1DB-81E6-41C3-94FF-2858E57D86A5@roalddevries.nl> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:45:16 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908171845m5bf7516fh8101f88d27e4d5b3@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Roald de Vries Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fusefs-sshfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:45:18 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Roald de Vries wrote: > Dear all, > > I've installed fusefs-sshfs, and added fusefs_enable="YES" to rc.conf. > During startup, I see fusefs being started, but when I do: "sshfs remote:~ > /media/remote", I get "fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or > directory". Any idea why? Thanks in advance. > > Kind regards, > > Roald > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > does kldstat list the appropriate module? 15 1 0xcbe3a000 e000 fuse.ko start it manually: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/fusefs start -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 02:27:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E746106568C for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74EE8FC3F for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so3595611bwz.37 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:27:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Vj8tfFkJTDn5+PJobDt8Myr6cC6mLalR6JWkSAdkboU=; b=ZFsmO7DcDKkgpzW/TuLwyy/x2rzpajOEybmS4cj7Yo/6Z0vOFymSLUS2G2pKDPE2Cl 95Z3gfmErddvHqr6KR3R2Mqf4YJNA3aLW3FxX+kFrvxzWdXtCR+0WTCNvvptlWBHOuGo 8Gb7IiGLy73IBDJj1pRGPAAFlsQ+l3ogONAAk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Fdi9ui76RSVVPLoDn+98I3w6L46xhD84p4vob1jUEK5dfMXbZ4JfxiGIncozH0FSrx 3WKUQQzwLjqhRxEu9s2ZnLNhcgyKF7k6Y9w+gZH7QMb4NnAKN96j6yQhNHAaVYpSXx1S 96HyQHjp6xbjezNZxneyYJ43YhLeuUGal6hKY= Received: by 10.204.3.22 with SMTP id 22mr3272730bkl.181.1250562459770; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm5726938fkx.24.2009.08.17.19.27.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:27:36 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090818032736.4702f243@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> <4A89D4F9.9020508@toyon.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:27:41 -0000 On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:41:12 -0500 Andrew Gould wrote: > STABLE is what it sounds like. I don't think it is what it sounds like - STABLE branches are development branches with stable binary interfaces. It's the security branches that are intended for production use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 03:48:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203A1106568C; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (lefty.soaustin.net [66.135.55.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003FD8FC3F; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 7767F8C086; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:48:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:48:46 -0500 From: Mark Linimon To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20090818034846.GC14408@lonesome.com> References: <20090817135752.GA73485@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090817143602.GB2365@lonesome.com> <20090817145124.GA89493@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090817145124.GA89493@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports lang/gcc4x fail to build on ia64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:48:47 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 03:51:24PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I wonder if they work under ia64 linux? I don't know. A quick check of NetBSD seems to indicate that their ia64 port only runs in emulation mode; OpenBSD doesn't list an ia64 port. mcl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 04:04:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A253E106568B for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:04:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F8E8FC51 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay15.apple.com (relay15.apple.com [17.128.113.54]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFDE6E6FECD; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:46:54 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807136-b7b3cae0000059ab-97-4a8a24290db6 Received: from [17.151.101.208] (Unknown_Domain [17.151.101.208]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by relay15.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with SMTP id D7.E4.22955.C242A8A4; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4678C560-A518-4A9D-98C4-8864E1AEA2FF@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: RW In-Reply-To: <20090818032736.4702f243@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:46:48 -0700 References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> <4A89D4F9.9020508@toyon.com> <20090818032736.4702f243@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAZE= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:04:49 -0000 On Aug 17, 2009, at 7:27 PM, RW wrote: > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:41:12 -0500 > Andrew Gould wrote: > STABLE is what it sounds like. > > I don't think it is what it sounds like - STABLE branches are > development branches with stable binary interfaces. It's the security > branches that are intended for production use. It's reasonable for people who update and build their own software image to do some level of qualification of the result, before deploying this to production systems. Whether you track -STABLE or the security branch for your initial release ought to be determined more by your preferences to minimize the scope of OS updates versus your desire for relevant new functionality. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 04:35:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB1F106568B for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7B6D8FC16 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:35:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 73022 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Aug 2009 04:35:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1250570112; bh=ocWtrejWMvy1om6IRAFcWvA8iLDPJHtzAyJVKYKS4dI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=V0KmEDkMa1JFO9DxoqFBOHEIcSf2vWnzDqdc1V/I6WvDnAlowkL0IsxpUVkBeQXJ8G5TAf/M17iGY1VkmtymY0+1WGJrgC66zZ64iL65lfEaDcyZZv0bSY6/h5As2PKiClrEQvz9NR0HW27GRkMwQlp6w5dEW7w2/TDg9YMDHmo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KgDveaBQC9f18NitpT6l6QDpziuPU/sAJdFmBU2N+rdnsv1XF/sDl4pXiUj5npdNCsTGWcpTrIYE+qYOpNe+D21hXBooH4BGwAeWCPqtRjDA7Iz2sgEma2pBYl9RVghn5ngIzgqkZ0fZ83eDxmsq/PuGb61AEoJfrk4AGgM9tns=; Message-ID: <304187.71961.qm@web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: __sKUVUVM1mULo7yfPbPa8QU6nzMeMKXxOw6WWDVCkiGPdfooQGLmpSiQZcfakqUZW8LwIRFtvPYgQQce2U9YiakJPDwTptd00AD4P2zs986ogYSoTCILl1Zh6MVSLEonx7oLErLeU4W0N6Rl0AaqwghbrE24OjCy3nFqWS7BHWVV10gp4Vy296uSFrBW_Q9cP_4_u7J_AGtgfk5kaASSF7geVokj8.q6JaFC9fSuzqDjuc7_w5EstXnJ3LMm4Gd7wUALA0MuU7BOFSAjurc1CzFZOrYEjxXgn4wX3QL5OR7OCpPZ_PlhZKUjfnpR5U.fv7ezBvEvIEqpan_w._1tfJ1xi8i Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:35:12 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:35:12 -0700 (PDT) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090817120025.02EFF106568F@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:35:28 -0000 =0A=0A--- On Mon, 8/17/09, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote:=0A=0A> From: freebsd-questions-request= @freebsd.org =0A> Subject: freebsd-q= uestions Digest, Vol 272, Issue 1=0A> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A>= Received: Monday, August 17, 2009, 8:00 AM=0A> Send freebsd-questions mail= ing list=0A> submissions to=0A> =A0=A0=A0 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A>= =0A> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit=0A> =A0=A0= =A0 http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> or, via= email, send a message with subject or body 'help'=0A> to=0A> =A0=A0=A0 fre= ebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org=0A> =0A> You can reach the person managi= ng the list at=0A> =A0=A0=A0 freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org=0A> =0A> W= hen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more=0A> specific=0A> = than "Re: Contents of freebsd-questions digest..."=0A> =0A> =0A> Today's To= pics:=0A> =0A> =A0=A0=A01. 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Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!!=0A> (cpghost)=0A> =A0 19. f= reebsd (BONGANI MANGANYE)=0A> =0A> =0A> -----------------------------------= -----------------------------------=0A> =0A> Message: 1=0A> Date: Sun, 16 A= ug 2009 09:56:03 -0500=0A> From: Adam Vande More =0A= > Subject: Re: mouse not working - X or console=0A> To: Eitan Adler =0A> Cc: questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID:=0A> =A0= =A0=A0 <6201873e0908160756x32cc1be7q7cc20dcee6f554b5@mail.gmail.com>=0A> Co= ntent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0A> =0A> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 = at 7:17 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:=0A> =0A> > > /var/= log/Xorg.0.log would be help as well.=0A> > http://pastebin.com/f30f93edb= =0A> >=0A> >=0A> > --=0A> > Eitan Adler=0A> >=0A> =0A> I'd try the fbsd xor= g mailing list, btw does your console=0A> mouse work yet?=0A> =0A> -- =0A> = Adam Vande More=0A> =0A> =0A> ------------------------------=0A> =0A> Messa= ge: 2=0A> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:00:56 -0500=0A> From: Adam Vande More <= amvandemore@gmail.com>=0A> Subject: Re: mouse not working - X or console=0A= > To: Eitan Adler =0A> Cc: questions@freebsd.org= =0A> Message-ID:=0A> =A0=A0=A0 <6201873e0908160800q6bfffe03iade7d8dcf0d481d= e@mail.gmail.com>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0A> = =0A> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Adam Vande More wrote:=0A> =0A> > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Eitan Adler wrote:=0A> >=0A> >> > /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be help as = well.=0A> >> http://pastebin.com/f30f93edb=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >> --=0A> >> E= itan Adler=0A> >>=0A> >=0A> > I'd try the fbsd xorg mailing list, btw does = your=0A> console mouse work yet?=0A> >=0A> > --=0A> > Adam Vande More=0A> >= =0A> =0A> Also you may want to update Xorg to current version.=A0=0A> I thi= nk that may help=0A> as my intel chipset just starting working w/ freebsd a= gain=0A> relatively=0A> recently.=0A> =0A> -- =0A> Adam Vande More=0A> =0A>= =0A> ------------------------------=0A> =0A> Message: 3=0A> Date: Sun, 16 = Aug 2009 17:31:29 +0200=0A> From: Martin Schweizer =0A> Subject: Re: Cyrus Imapd with SASL,=A0=A0=A0=0A> authenticate agains= t AD Windows=0A> =A0=A0=A0 2003 with Kerberos5=0A> To: Volodymyr Kostyrko <= c.kworr@gmail.com>=0A> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID: <2= 0090816153129.GJ51217@saturn.pcs.ms>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset= =3Dus-ascii=0A> =0A> Hello Volodymyr=0A> =0A> Am Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 09:42= :22AM +0300 Volodymyr Kostyrko=0A> schrieb:=0A> > Martin Schweizer wrote:= =0A> > =0A> > >So I have now no more ideas where I can check. Any=0A> hints= are welcome.=0A> > =0A> > I have done almost the same thing, only with pam= :=0A> > =0A> > > grep sasl /etc/rc.conf=0A> > saslauthd_enable=3D'yes'=0A> = > saslauthd_flags=3D'-apam -n1'=0A> > =0A> > > cat /etc/pam.d/imap=0A> > au= th required pam_krb5.so no_warn try_first_pass=0A> > =0A> =0A> Sorry for th= e delay but I was out of town. I did same as=0A> you suggested and now =0A>= it works. Thank you.=0A> =0A> Regards,=0A> =0A> -- =0A> =0A> Martin Schwei= zer=0A> =0A> =0A> PC-Service M. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 06:06:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0660F106564A; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 06:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stark@mapper.nl) Received: from smtp-out1.tiscali.nl (smtp-out1.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B398FC51; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 06:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.170.17.27] (helo=mapper.nl) by smtp-out1.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MdHpX-0003O4-V8; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:06:00 +0200 Received: from bowser ([192.168.0.1] helo=[0.0.0.0]) by mapper.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MdHpE-000KAD-Qw; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:05:40 +0200 Message-ID: <4A8A44B0.5020707@mapper.nl> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:05:36 +0200 From: Mark Stapper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de References: <4A88FA02.30405@mapper.nl> <20090817113128.37ec7588@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <20090817113128.37ec7588@ernst.jennejohn.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4FC60BAE21A2C6D5E6E48B26" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "'freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: howto install virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 06:06:02 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4FC60BAE21A2C6D5E6E48B26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary Jennejohn wrote: > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:34:42 +0200 > Mark Stapper wrote: > > =20 >> I'm currently migrating my home desktop from Gentoo linux to FreeBSD >> 8.0(Beta but it'll be "Stable" soon. Using RELENG_8 btw). >> I'm kind of a OS collector/nut/geek/nerd. As such virtualization is >> quite important to me. >> I've been using VMware Server 2.x on Gentoo for quite some time and, >> apart from the new console *barf*, it's been working for me so far. >> So needless to say I was hoping for vmware support. Tough luck... Ow >> well, the handbook spoke of virtualbox support. Only OSE, but still, >> better than nothing. >> After trying virtualbox on windows(at work) I decided to give it a go = on >> FreeBSD amd64... >> Issuing make install in the virtualbox directory complained about me n= ot >> having any 32-bit libraries installed. >> >> =20 > > So, how did you install FreeBSD? From an install image? > > You should have a /usr/lib32 by default, unless the image didn't contai= n > it. The 32-bit compatibilty libraries are automatically generated by > "make buildworld" as long as MK_LIB32 is not set to "no" (which it is n= ot, > by default). > > Maybe you need to do "make buildworld" followed by "make installworld",= > assuming you have the src tree installed. > > =20 >> My questions are two fold: >> 1. Which options do I have when it comes to vritualization on FreeBSD = 8 >> amd64? >> >> =20 > > qemu works pretty well, but VirtualBox is the way to go. I've been usi= ng > it under 8-current for a few months and it beats the socks off of qemu > performance-wise. > > =20 >> 2. How do I install virtualbox on amd64? >> >> =20 > > See above. It seems that having /usr/lib32 populated is a prerequisite= =2E > > --- > Gary Jennejohn > =20 Thanks all for your reply's. I was planning on doing a kernel/world upgrade anyway since that's what I like doing :-) (need to test a patch from Junch-uk Kim anyway...) Now I really have no more reason not to run FreeBSD as desktop... Maybe except for good nvidia drivers..... thanks again. Greetz, Mark --------------enig4FC60BAE21A2C6D5E6E48B26 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqKRLQACgkQN9xNqOOVnWBypwCdFZlQt/wjePizNq4cPV62PKmc OUAAn1yO3C3ibZTRlNGPAzbu8K8m9Nt4 =PqGE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4FC60BAE21A2C6D5E6E48B26-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 07:30:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0073106568B for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595E38FC69 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6143B1C1A67 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:30:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A8A5887.1080304@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:30:15 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Recovering files after a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:30:18 -0000 Hi: I woke op to a crash this morning after a powerfailure, and now dmesg shows this: WARNING: / was not properly dismounted GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1a is ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1d is ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1e is ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1f is ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad59f647596 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1g is ufsid/442f8ad59f647596. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1h is ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad59f647596 removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed. The problem is that I have no idea which files were affected. So, now some questions: First, how do I determine which files were corrupted? And how do I recover these files? Second, / is mostly read-only, in fact, I can't think of any file on that partition that should be modified at all: /tmp is on a separate partition, I have source files on /usr/local rather than the default, in fact, only root user files are modified during a normal day, but it's been days since I logged in as root. How do I protect read-only files from being corrupted in the first place? I have tried mounting / read-only but that gave a load of other problems. Thanks, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 08:17:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3D0106568D for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:17:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817EE8FC55 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so3765599bwz.37 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:17:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dfXsSKNGCylwlKhstcmlzwUg4ilr+Jt5zK03AnrAE0g=; b=lqKRqNYWeeSOiKn/+wjDaWFNr8+FqDg3s1HJ8/OdvbELLEw+jgPBxJsUjpUFazd+hc yd3G2+1wMgMJHh/EEyiBvwbAB2J7igSodobRlQ5MNmPezqziOGf7Pzp5w2knyW6k0tKt pdqzQ7ZQe9/86f0riG8H6THgjQ77il9YcwGkI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=EtsmD4MI8N5lcfAKVtk5GYCyxNV9p2RyqF0KZAnCIH7wUv7d+0yi6TBzZlY2QXzsrZ qwflM1zFPNHFgm/QmlKkU8Q+QDrPRh2UA3ARtApEUzDqQEQl3E1G7zoe5Xvhy+nnoXvo MLPem4tDOCFB57K6itUXRS+CK/Tobi0U2n0g8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.64.19 with SMTP id r19mr1740247muk.8.1250583460294; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:17:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <695FE1DB-81E6-41C3-94FF-2858E57D86A5@roalddevries.nl> References: <695FE1DB-81E6-41C3-94FF-2858E57D86A5@roalddevries.nl> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:17:40 +0100 Message-ID: From: chris scott To: Roald de Vries Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fusefs-sshfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:17:42 -0000 2009/8/17 Roald de Vries > Dear all, > > I've installed fusefs-sshfs, and added fusefs_enable="YES" to rc.conf. > During startup, I see fusefs being started, but when I do: "sshfs remote:~ > /media/remote", I get "fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or > directory". Any idea why? Thanks in advance. > > Kind regards, > > Roald > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > try an explicit path as well rather than ~ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 10:24:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13661065691 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artis.caune@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1718FC16 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so3884182bwz.37 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:24:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GB0ObckbjBKrKL/0nNVpVIqA568s7MJMgQDkKtAmsk8=; b=YiEgXDd61knCxnWhl0eI/bWxSQ+lyTeAoLGdiRCh8UCaJ0gOwL5QHgSZexiCpI+ccX 7agLwlN9QhqqNHj9UjJ98yku3LJV1h5WQBFVNwmLStKzFoDMsK19+WhOKLXVZps1IDys PMRBXSaAcV+gw9ljHq91u2uaMW9oLbZuEdYIY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=LusTAfb5ADJONlIUSknx4GEyYzZIpKl0C5xGFiFtmzIztVUMeQnyBOjb8+TGwsNtkj Pf4nAOUBjgxMS4gDNFvEI6o1XJYxn0q9CDzdL+6sXLoADVvDJpFwA+mofrdnqj6PsEXp JStAZOHsejtxsvK+xuBTSNtwz1LPrlu0g+I+o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.76.10 with SMTP id d10mr1797061mul.9.1250589237359; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:53:57 +0300 Message-ID: <9e20d71e0908180253x4a11114cxc3e2c4af8798878@mail.gmail.com> From: Artis Caune To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: shell power in rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:24:50 -0000 Hi, Is there any reason of not using shell variables in rc.conf? I want to tune rc.conf for easy editing and administration. Take for example jail_list or cloned_interfaces with 10+ entries: # interfaces cloned_interfaces="carp1 bce0.10 carp10 bce0.20 carp20" ifconfig_bce0_10="10.0.0.1/24" ifconfig_bce0_20="10.0.1.1/24" ifconfig_bce0_20_alias0="10.0.1.2/32" ifconfig_carp10="vhid 10 advskew 100 pass MySecret 10.0.0.100/32" ifconfig_carp20="vhid 20 advskew 15 pass MySecret 10.0.1.100/32" # jails jail_list="ns mail" jail_ns_hostname="ns" jail_ns_ip="10.10.10.1" jail_mail_hostname="mail" jail_mail_ip="10.10.10.2" Instead I can rewrite this to: # interfaces cloned_interfaces="${cloned_interfaces} bce0.10" ifconfig_bce0_10="10.0.0.1/24" cloned_interfaces="${cloned_interfaces} bce0.20" ifconfig_bce0_20="10.0.1.1/24" ifconfig_bce0_20_alias0="10.0.1.2/32" cloned_interfaces="${cloned_interfaces} carp10" ifconfig_carp10="vhid 10 advskew 100 pass MySecret 10.0.0.100/32" cloned_interfaces="${cloned_interfaces} carp20" ifconfig_carp20="vhid 20 advskew 15 pass MySecret 10.0.1.100/32" # jails jail_list="${jail_list} ns" jail_ns_hostname="ns" jail_ns_ip="10.10.10.1" jail_list="${jail_list} mail" jail_mail_hostname="mail" jail_mail_ip="10.10.10.2" Now I can just comment out unused interface or jail, and it won't start up. -- Artis Caune Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 11:01:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E9E106568C for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdv@roalddevries.nl) Received: from platinum.liacs.nl (platinum.liacs.nl [132.229.131.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95658FC62 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by platinum.liacs.nl (8.14.2/8.14.2/LIACS 1.5) with ESMTP id n7I9pIFX002724; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:51:20 +0200 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liacs.nl Received: from platinum.liacs.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (platinum.liacs.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ZRBJfwKoFhrO; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:50:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from prive147.liacs.nl (prive147.liacs.nl [132.229.16.147]) by platinum.liacs.nl (8.14.2/8.14.2/LIACS 1.5) with ESMTP id n7I9kjtC001920; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:46:46 +0200 Message-Id: <3CE288DC-C961-41AD-8073-E69E484E8817@roalddevries.nl> From: Roald de Vries To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: <6201873e0908171845m5bf7516fh8101f88d27e4d5b3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:46:39 +0200 References: <695FE1DB-81E6-41C3-94FF-2858E57D86A5@roalddevries.nl> <6201873e0908171845m5bf7516fh8101f88d27e4d5b3@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (platinum.liacs.nl [132.229.131.22]); Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:46:46 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fusefs-sshfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:01:15 -0000 Dear Adam, kldstat does list the appropriate module, and when I try to start it manually, I get the respons 'fusefs is already running'. Kind regards, Roald On Aug 18, 2009, at 3:45 AM, Adam Vande More wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Roald de Vries > wrote: > Dear all, > > I've installed fusefs-sshfs, and added fusefs_enable="YES" to > rc.conf. During startup, I see fusefs being started, but when I do: > "sshfs remote:~ /media/remote", I get "fuse: failed to open fuse > device: No such file or directory". Any idea why? Thanks in advance. > > Kind regards, > > Roald > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > > does kldstat list the appropriate module? > > 15 1 0xcbe3a000 e000 fuse.ko > > start it manually: > > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/fusefs start > > -- > Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 11:03:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1A1106568D for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1BC28FC51 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13610 invoked by uid 0); 18 Aug 2009 11:03:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 2009 11:03:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=JotI4+GkEgLMf+n1kvKRAGhguhyy6Lzab+MBTVFOBlH3uTtIDYkyOBg5XjKb+Y3AopfneDTgf4wB72HOVdaLtZD/gxB3VOH7VoCr2vexxy3QLC8c7MCUx/PeAZAy3QTu; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MdMTD-0003pf-UB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:03:16 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:55:32 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:55:32 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090818105532.GB38664@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <695FE1DB-81E6-41C3-94FF-2858E57D86A5@roalddevries.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <695FE1DB-81E6-41C3-94FF-2858E57D86A5@roalddevries.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: fusefs-sshfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:03:17 -0000 --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:15:16PM +0200, Roald de Vries wrote: > Dear all, >=20 > I've installed fusefs-sshfs, and added fusefs_enable=3D"YES" to rc.conf. = =20 > During startup, I see fusefs being started, but when I do: "sshfs =20 > remote:~ /media/remote", I get "fuse: failed to open fuse device: No =20 > such file or directory". Any idea why? Thanks in advance. Try running these commands: kldload /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko /usr/local/etc/rc.d/fusefs start sysctl vfs.usermount=3D1 =2E . . then using an absolute path rather than a relative path. If that doesn't work, there's probably something wrong with the install, the network setup, or the remote machine. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Anonymous: "It is easier to measure something than to understand what you have measured." --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqKiKQACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX2yQCfaQwQx8qgIzUd1VqpIilXxhn1 VdwAoOnMODWqCGEE/Az8Kwpb3k2iYFEW =sqO9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 12:20:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDFE106568C for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s17.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s17.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171238FC3F for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:19:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY126-DS5 ([65.55.131.32]) by bay0-omc2-s17.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:19:59 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [69.140.96.168] X-Originating-Email: [millenia2000@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Sean Cavanaugh" To: "Eitan Adler" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:19:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Aug 2009 12:19:59.0957 (UTC) FILETIME=[34AFC850:01CA1FFE] Cc: Subject: Re: freebsd-update to -BETA2 p1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:20:00 -0000 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Eitan Adler" Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 6:48 PM To: Subject: freebsd-update to -BETA2 p1 > AlphaBeta# freebsd-update fetch install > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. > Fetching metadata signature for 8.0-BETA2 from update5.FreeBSD.org... > done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Inspecting system... done. > Preparing to download files... done. > > No updates needed to update system to 8.0-BETA2-p1. > > WARNING: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 HAS PASSED ITS END-OF-LIFE DATE. > Any security issues discovered after Thu Aug 13 20:00:00 EDT 2009 > will not have been corrected. > > AlphaBeta# freebsd-update install > No updates are available to install. > Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch' first. > > > AlphaBeta# uname -a > FreeBSD AlphaBeta 8.0-BETA2 FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #0: Wed Jul 15 23:25:30 > UTC 2009 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > i386 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > wild guess, yer wondering why uname is not coming back as P1? it will not change unless there's a kernel patch or you recompile it yourself. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 13:17:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EA1106568F; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lucian@lastdot.org) Received: from evenstar.lastdot.org (evenstar.lastdot.org [89.36.197.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BC88FC6E; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:17:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from evenstar.lastdot.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by evenstar.lastdot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81611494065; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:56:47 +0300 (EEST) References: <4A88FA02.30405@mapper.nl> <20090817113128.37ec7588@ernst.jennejohn.org> <4A8A44B0.5020707@mapper.nl> Message-ID: X-Mailer: http://www.courier-mta.org/cone/ From: lucian@lastdot.org To: Mark Stapper Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:56:46 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de, =?UTF-8?Q?freebsd-amd64=40freebsd=2Eorg?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: howto install virtualbox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:17:12 -0000 Mark Stapper writes: > Gary Jennejohn wrote: >> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:34:42 +0200 >> Mark Stapper wrote: >> >> >>> I'm currently migrating my home desktop from Gentoo linux to FreeBSD >>> 8.0(Beta but it'll be "Stable" soon. Using RELENG_8 btw). >>> I'm kind of a OS collector/nut/geek/nerd. As such virtualization is >>> quite important to me. >>> I've been using VMware Server 2.x on Gentoo for quite some time and, >>> apart from the new console *barf*, it's been working for me so far. >>> So needless to say I was hoping for vmware support. Tough luck... Ow >>> well, the handbook spoke of virtualbox support. Only OSE, but still, >>> better than nothing. >>> After trying virtualbox on windows(at work) I decided to give it a go on >>> FreeBSD amd64... >>> Issuing make install in the virtualbox directory complained about me not >>> having any 32-bit libraries installed. >>> >>> >> >> So, how did you install FreeBSD? From an install image? >> >> You should have a /usr/lib32 by default, unless the image didn't contain >> it. The 32-bit compatibilty libraries are automatically generated by >> "make buildworld" as long as MK_LIB32 is not set to "no" (which it is not, >> by default). >> >> Maybe you need to do "make buildworld" followed by "make installworld", >> assuming you have the src tree installed. >> >> >>> My questions are two fold: >>> 1. Which options do I have when it comes to vritualization on FreeBSD 8 >>> amd64? >>> >>> >> >> qemu works pretty well, but VirtualBox is the way to go. I've been using >> it under 8-current for a few months and it beats the socks off of qemu >> performance-wise. >> >> >>> 2. How do I install virtualbox on amd64? >>> >>> >> >> See above. It seems that having /usr/lib32 populated is a prerequisite. >> >> --- >> Gary Jennejohn >> > Thanks all for your reply's. > I was planning on doing a kernel/world upgrade anyway since that's what > I like doing :-) (need to test a patch from Junch-uk Kim anyway...) > Now I really have no more reason not to run FreeBSD as desktop... Maybe > except for good nvidia drivers..... And Adobe Flash (tm) ;-) > thanks again. > Greetz, > Mark > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 13:32:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA215106568C for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:32:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E668FC15 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7IDVkaI013794; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:31:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n7IDVk0B013793; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:31:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:31:46 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: Erik Norgaard Message-ID: <20090818133146.GA13762@ei.bzerk.org> References: <4A8A5887.1080304@locolomo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A8A5887.1080304@locolomo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_16 autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:32:44 +0200 (CEST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering files after a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:32:46 -0000 On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:30:15AM +0200, Erik Norgaard typed: > Hi: > > I woke op to a crash this morning after a powerfailure, and now dmesg > shows this: > > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1a is ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1d is ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1e is ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1f is ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad59f647596 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1g is ufsid/442f8ad59f647596. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1h is ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad59f647596 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed. > > The problem is that I have no idea which files were affected. According to this, no file was affected. > So, now some questions: > > First, how do I determine which files were corrupted? And how do I > recover these files? > > Second, / is mostly read-only, in fact, I can't think of any file on > that partition that should be modified at all: /tmp is on a separate > partition, I have source files on /usr/local rather than the default, in > fact, only root user files are modified during a normal day, but it's > been days since I logged in as root. > > How do I protect read-only files from being corrupted in the first > place? I have tried mounting / read-only but that gave a load of other > problems. > > Thanks, Erik > > > -- > Erik N?rgaard > Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 14:04:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938AF106568C for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:04:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 525758FC3F for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:04:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 48204 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Aug 2009 14:04:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250604258; bh=Zy2RY3oBCvStwfyPM9THCcnH6fDNIcaCwq81gdfCW6A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=10XhzkNea95tUxKeJ9MEXEb8yvq7O+tIaKejNKh4mojQ70FOQkd/vG3QTMUkHJfVtIeMIj0VRW5n5n7d/AFbr538Ru82cdnzuzvFZZNHkJif1Jf/Rl77EMi7MMZxcX+3p2Qf6pwV9cYJtfyKSidpGchYB9cEJ6Ty56DSo3Kjk/Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bjGOlF1P5pGbkKxfEiB2akp060Hvodh3dH44lXxmwDLFYrpr3tI9XWkIu6XGK21nhPjSvePWGL1U+Dc/uA4ZQltxDszKdXc9MtVXpgQ/LfhqHxk5MjYKLmd5k8yGseSvAux1kvRdU/E8iS/1HtlWPvtrNmeHnVq42zGa1rh4cJM=; Message-ID: <812534.46933.qm@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pGBz3OgVM1nt_D0gGgrgTabcGaXzvQmJQkbdDNvbnmD6H4Awu43V9I.QVjwuvryOt7mJ0dgodZP1S6rtHnLELft9pVIG7eP.9AFkHdrj9Mh0glD1PYMAj2UKAwQ0uakotICx9NKdSEtTjKu16Ao0LXMQZuUcE198l0MbrozqJfFDPXf3DWYNJbPfDQieleMITsI4ZQgNwfgnJn5uw2e9i56JVOoSkrZ0aIq1mTYmMj49NGyDwUTzEodAmedAlB0uvhIiN7Rw5GJsjrFPOS.A4lxRwhVsO1zeD7KhgiBZGNqKF20TQGTe4j70HmzIprrnzI.UL1oKKomqcmFpkvHWmV_8OInlHxww182ttc7DUMgTBUWvUlG3iEqzKZuFQ3urZ_Lw Received: from [200.80.219.194] by web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:04:18 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:04:18 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908171050k21105075u872ea9cf46c02fbe@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Intel 5100 agn driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:04:19 -0000 Thanks Glen, I also can build the module with ndisgen, and it doesn't panic= , but when I do ifconfig I can't see the ndis0 device.=20 However, I found this post on a Linux forum saying they can use the device.= I wonder if freebsd can load linux drivers using linuxsulator?. Leonardo M. Ram=E9 http://leonardorame.blogspot.com --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Glen Barber wrote: > From: Glen Barber > Subject: Re: Intel 5100 agn driver > To: "Leonardo M. Ram=E9" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:50 PM > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:57 AM, > Leonardo M. Ram=E9 > wrote: > > Hi, does anyone knows if the driver for the Intel 5100 > agn included in many new notebooks is ready to use in > 7.2-STABLE for amd64?, if not, at least i'm looking for some > pointers to creating a ndis wrapper for its WinXP driver. > > >=20 > Hi, Leonardo >=20 > I'm in the same situation you are in.=A0 Regarding an > official driver, > there is not anything available (yet).=A0 The last post > I saw in the > -net archives mentions the driver was not currently being > worked on (I > do not know how much truth this holds now). >=20 > Regarding ndis/ndisgen, I was able to create a module in > 7.2-RELEASE > and 8.0-BETA2, however both caused panics (which I was > unable to get > cores on - mostly because of time constraints).=A0 As > expected, your > results may vary. >=20 > --=20 > Glen Barber > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 15:00:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD7D1065693 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D488FC59 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:00:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n7IF0A3o066105 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:00:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7IF09RT005389 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:00:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7IF09ri005383; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:00:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:00:08 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Artis Caune Message-ID: <20090818150008.GC77498@dan.emsphone.com> References: <9e20d71e0908180253x4a11114cxc3e2c4af8798878@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9e20d71e0908180253x4a11114cxc3e2c4af8798878@mail.gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:00:12 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shell power in rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:00:15 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 18), Artis Caune said: > Is there any reason of not using shell variables in rc.conf? > I want to tune rc.conf for easy editing and administration. Take for > example jail_list or cloned_interfaces with 10+ entries: Remember that every startup script sources rc.conf, sometimes very early or late in the startup/shutdown sequence, so just make sure you don't echo anything to stdout/stderr or try to run commands that might be on filesystems that aren't mounted yet, and you should be fine. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 15:56:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82301065691 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:56:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f205.google.com (mail-fx0-f205.google.com [209.85.220.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740658FC41 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm1 with SMTP id 1so2917291fxm.7 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:56:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QsFeFRO59EprbPvIgNX57iJc8pQSzbnsXvIA+fHdQxY=; b=gpvf7fU8QTGZ7fSAL2x7IUXqe0z0lIbsR2BsXpGjZJ9DgO0QM9zVe7wtTNr0rQgzWK hVelQALFBLjuTUEVyfhGrzG/k71ck4QGuq+bIkwZ5lE9AmBjM5ieWub+roJZoZ52Ex2S MgbKpS1FAcYSzDWAuGLdQcFAsuYqoBbNlAVF4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eRM+VUu9PfgHvLXo7rHtJr62eFCxIYOo/CMvS5B+c9+Xb8UvsZM9yb+6Y4T86YS5o2 ds1v0OvpoJBlHBNoLorw6U+er4B9yPf1jAgetFOVTmPDq6R1GNOYTBxUEz3S9GCqpZXS WJ2vW347NKjcpTtFalIHfeqNT96kWdDhtTbpc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.15.23 with SMTP id i23mr1265332faa.107.1250611007330; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:56:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <812534.46933.qm@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4ad871310908171050k21105075u872ea9cf46c02fbe@mail.gmail.com> <812534.46933.qm@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:56:47 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310908180856s6f29ae2bk78f05efc0df19d63@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel 5100 agn driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:56:49 -0000 On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 = wrote: > Thanks Glen, I also can build the module with ndisgen, and it doesn't pan= ic, but when I do ifconfig I can't see the ndis0 device. > > However, I found this post on a Linux forum saying they can use the devic= e. I wonder if freebsd can load linux drivers using linuxsulator?. > Hi, No, linuxulator won't work for kernel drivers, AFAIK. It's for ABI compatibility. I seem to have made some progress with ndisgen(8) and the drivers for my laptop with this card - meaning, the panics stopped. Now there is no ndis(4) device listed in ifconfig(8), however. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 17:07:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608AC106568B for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chihau@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f227.google.com (mail-gx0-f227.google.com [209.85.217.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194DF8FC43 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk27 with SMTP id 27so4894192gxk.12 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:07:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=5ks0EqSzQOcoFkBYYe1W/S5vXm19WDt1hbP+DBh8SBs=; b=oKBtEE7kZS/5+6LjQacmRbE+vhOGebX0aTsGFCdzG+l+83d348KE2wE0S5SggkiX4m AON0W/J87Yz3vZcj49yhSR6rToS2dEMTYQhc4bRrjIcCSWrFiSK3S3tHxAoYe9eZk04h OW1XhAiKwKL/y0o1Uhmg58Oa0Kjq8w9roUXJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JLp3BYc88okp/3Kh+pbdYXdt9x+Mo4SJLdDQJSeDJgvW2lZEwYGNeb2tNqCSqqNGdD Y2CQrGr7+vm841Xn7q//CQS5YMzUI8wMIYM59kAFItabtDtAKEjUhJgdkDOxWdyMO7IN sKVqMdrVbHBE20+GHU88RTZHZe/YM3yycRKNc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.192.14 with SMTP id u14mr3933450agp.2.1250613234315; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:33:53 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chihau Chau To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: pf: unlocked lookup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:07:11 -0000 Hi everybody, I don't undestand this message in my /var/log/dmesg.today log: "pf: unlocked lookup" Who can explain me? Thanks -- Chihau Chau From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 17:15:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B041B106568D for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A578FC51 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:15:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7IHFTo5085609; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:15:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1A210BA93; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:15:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:15:29 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Erik Norgaard Message-ID: <20090818171528.GA35403@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A8A5887.1080304@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A8A5887.1080304@locolomo.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering files after a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:15:31 -0000 --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:30:15AM +0200, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Hi: >=20 > I woke op to a crash this morning after a powerfailure, and now dmesg=20 > shows this: >=20 > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1a is ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1d is ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1e is ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1f is ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad59f647596 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1g is ufsid/442f8ad59f647596. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1h is ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad59f647596 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed. These GEOM_LABEL messagel have nothing to do with filesystem checks. You can ignore them. =20 > The problem is that I have no idea which files were affected. >=20 > So, now some questions: >=20 > First, how do I determine which files were corrupted? And how do I=20 > recover these files? =46rom what you have shown it is impossible to tell. A short filesystem check (fsck -F) is run at boot time. If no major problems are found, the complete filesystem check is done later in the background. The result of that check will be visible in /var/log/messages. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqK4bAACgkQEnfvsMMhpyX0rwCfVVr5n9JBaRY4O/saPK9bDXqn U/wAoIcYBPX6TREGCo4JT/ZBRSllkbps =Tf9u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 17:46:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA83106568C for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:46:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156B68FC6D for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n7IHkJIH017916 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:46:19 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n7IHkJ18017915; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:46:19 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 683E7B7BD; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:45:27 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Walt Pawley on Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:29 -0700) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090818174527.683E7B7BD@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:45:27 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:46:21 -0000 >> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:29 -0700, >> Walt Pawley said: W> As speculation on my part, perhaps the six character limitation is less W> a software issue than an early architecture issue - DEC's PDP-6/10 W> design used 36-bit words and packed six characters (clearly from a W> limited subset of the then current ASCII) per word, making simple W> searches very effective through symbol tables with a simple word level W> compare loop. I'll second that. My first job for Uncle Sugar was on a DEC 10/55 for the Air Force, and 36-bit words were a fact of life. There were lots of programs around for conversion to/from 32-bit words, just so we could talk to everybody else on Earth. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Men are liars. We'll lie about lying if we have to. I'm an algebra liar. I figure two good lies make a positive. --Tim Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 17:49:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918C0106568D for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2AD8FC6E for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3879 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2009 17:49:49 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 Aug 2009 17:49:49 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 8FCDD5082B; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:49:48 -0400 (EDT) To: Chihau Chau References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:49:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Chihau Chau's message of "Tue\, 18 Aug 2009 12\:33\:53 -0400") Message-ID: <441vn93tc3.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: rwatson@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pf: unlocked lookup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:49:50 -0000 Chihau Chau writes: > I don't undestand this message in my /var/log/dmesg.today log: "pf: unlocked > lookup" > > Who can explain me? Looks like it means you enabled an ioctl called debug.pfugidhack, which results in releasing the pf mutex while looking up a socket. Make sure you know what you're doing when you enable a debug flag. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 18:15:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CAED106568B for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:15:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chihau@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182468FC45 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so5508130ywh.28 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:15:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=O4U7sVIv9ML8BQoPyqPMpiGT1vZj61vhIwsN6qONGl8=; b=pU3T0LwMIa9bndVXIMAaneArbmLRocdfDFerVqdaW1hbifRROMKWZ2L4upUNSW9d/w UcvZPvxToYwu93LJfhlh9Dw7cQJIFvVZn0rY81cj+PBTHuVJVTVDV81ouIcikmKLnzDv ehnFX4X0OeSn6XGiT8GdqF9OnuDI+Di6jbzSs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=rbpv0Ax8Dajh6EhKZGm4eT00yy+tpR/uk/Pht4fbczWiYQ4T8S3AGoxgcz3cLJpolO zfmg3MvWuud3EntAiJZQ5TiS+wx9TNLrroMkpbKX1dXhQXgqBrYLMNHgBHk70tPv89SS +Q1IBSv2shaKZSjw4fl954FTyXsMPvpRIyZfI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.23.7 with SMTP id a7mr4004821agj.16.1250617416863; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:43:36 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chihau Chau To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: pf: unlocked lookup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:15:12 -0000 Hi everybody, I don't undestand this message in my /var/log/dmesg.today log: "pf: unlocked lookup" Who can explain me? Thanks -- Chihau Chau From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 18:34:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A77E106568F for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:34:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95018FC55 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7IIUvkN075158; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:30:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n7IIUv0q075157; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:30:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:30:57 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Karl Vogel Message-ID: <20090818183057.GA75044@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090818174527.683E7B7BD@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090818174527.683E7B7BD@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:34:09 -0000 On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:45:27PM -0400, Karl Vogel wrote: > >> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:29 -0700, > >> Walt Pawley said: > > W> As speculation on my part, perhaps the six character limitation is less > W> a software issue than an early architecture issue - DEC's PDP-6/10 > W> design used 36-bit words and packed six characters (clearly from a > W> limited subset of the then current ASCII) per word, making simple > W> searches very effective through symbol tables with a simple word level > W> compare loop. > > I'll second that. My first job for Uncle Sugar was on a DEC 10/55 > for the Air Force, and 36-bit words were a fact of life. There were > lots of programs around for conversion to/from 32-bit words, just so > we could talk to everybody else on Earth. CDC (Control Data) mainframe machines used 6 bit characters. I believe the 3600 series had 36 bit words. The 6000 series (6400, 6500, etc, plus 170/750) used 60 bit words but still used 6 bit characters. So, everything was all upper case. It had 12 bit 'peripheral processors' which tended the 60 bit main processor[s] so later started to use 12 bit characters or sometimes 8 in 12 to allow for upper/lower case. That was a Seymour Cray thing. He designed their early mainframes before he bolted to make his own companies (so he wouldn't have to conform to corporate control). Later CDC came out with their 180 series that used 64 bit words and 8 bit bytes. It was kind of a nice system but it was too late for them. The world was turning to clusters of cheap CPU chips running UNIX instead of massive mainframes running proprietary OSen and CDC didn't jump on that bandwagon soon or strongly or cheaply enough. Anyway, in those earliest of days, 6 bits was the economical character set. But it was an obstacle to upper/lower case characters without using some shift code. IBM and DEC started doing 8 bit bytes - I don't know just when - and that allowed eash use of upper/lower characters and so quickly determined the standard character size for a long time. Now that 8 bit byte is a thorn in the side of those who want to create and universalize a character set that is international. ////jerry > > -- > Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company > > Men are liars. We'll lie about lying if we have to. I'm an > algebra liar. I figure two good lies make a positive. --Tim Allen > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 19:33:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34E1106568B for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f198.google.com (mail-px0-f198.google.com [209.85.216.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65B78FC60 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi36 with SMTP id 36so1920683pxi.7 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:33:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VfeJBODAuIrobuT44OE/LUKtgwstDjKfvLBMVIzqEAk=; b=Vqmka49pf8cEoR8Z9C3b1WEsuZ21fPnoTnNQbJK9NNxj8qd3M1ct5S/un3SsqoeG0m eVCDMHjfXPzOxMOp7NGt/BzULZuGeG5zQWk+ikAp2saY1hjmYx/BLNhWDDCWHbwVV9RV 3Cu9wuhymQcXNzPB7VEw8sln/09t0UFOmiv9A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=USxF9E3XRxEi1F75ljRLwnO7CEG0C7rI1tdpVqomtEtfCacUw2yxbEUuLXlGlMwzQu vlo0LNCA9yy3v2VHi4mIipQHeRccTt/p1o0+HaUNT0LP16IeLKKvaDtgxhfD15P3+BNJ +MlAkQ2gZRgA0aj4Pc7CMex3t0NSUEVG9mxMA= Received: by 10.115.102.21 with SMTP id e21mr5795930wam.176.1250622604644; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jimmiejaz.org (bas1-toronto44-1279460455.dsl.bell.ca [76.67.4.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j39sm7436422waf.45.2009.08.18.12.10.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A8AFC83.50200@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:09:55 -0400 From: Jimmie James User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17pre (X11/20090731) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Strange networking issue. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jimmiejaz@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:33:38 -0000 Setup - DSL modem/router 192.168.2.1. Static IP of 192.168.2.100 to FreeBSD jimmiejaz.org 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Sun Aug 2 01:00:16 EDT 2009 root@jimmiejaz.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FORTYTWO i386. DHCP in the .2.10 to .2.100 with two XP machines. I've turned IPFW off, as well as the modem/router's firewall and the same issue remains. The FreeBSD box has apache-2.0.63_3 running. host resolves to my public IP address. Ping from any machine hits the public IP. Trying to reach apache or ssh via hostname.TLD or public IP always.. By 192.168.2.100, all reach http/ssh fine. With log_in_vain set to 1 and attempting to connect, my logs fill up with Aug 18 15:05:10 jimmiejaz kernel: TCP: [192.168.2.10]:1064 to [192.168.2.100]:80 tcpflags 0x2; _syncache_add: Received duplicate SYN, resetting timer and retransmitting SYN|ACK Aug 18 15:05:10 jimmiejaz kernel: TCP: [192.168.2.10]:1064 to [192.168.2.100]:80; syncache_timer: Response timeout, retransmitting (2) SYN|ACK I found this thread. http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/net/2008-02/msg00006.html but it's older and doesn't really help. Anyone happen to have an idea what's going on? -- Over the years I've come to regard you as people I've met. I may be schizophrenic, but at least I have each other, and when I am alone I am together. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 19:56:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46629106568B for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from archon@silvertree.org) Received: from arthur.silvertree.org (arthur.silvertree.org [173.11.101.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0484D8FC61 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11734 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2009 12:29:43 -0700 Received: from webn1.ofoto.com (HELO ?192.168.62.44?) (66.128.224.196) by arthur.silvertree.org with SMTP; 18 Aug 2009 12:29:43 -0700 Message-Id: <00B06063-9872-4ACE-8767-1221C22E33EE@silvertree.org> From: Scott Schappell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:29:42 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:56:25 -0000 I have a drive (/dev/ad2s1d) mounted to /backup that I want to be read only until the backup scripts run and then it will be read/write. If I set /etc/fstab to: /dev/ad2s1d /backup ufs ro 0 0 to mount it read only most of the time then do: umount /backup mount -o rw /backup the system crashes, it just reboots about 10 seconds into writing data. The system is perfectly stable with it mounted read/write. Also, dmesg.boot has completely disappeared from the system, and touch /var/log/dmesg.boot it does not get populated. # uname -a FreeBSD arthur.silvertree.org 7.2-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT 2009 root@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/ obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR i386 Any suggestions on the remounting drive and dmesg.boot? Thanks! Scott P.S. It's good to be off of FreeBSD 4.11 :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 20:11:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0EE106568E for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168BF8FC7E for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:11:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so5617713ywh.28 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:11:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ne/veUiw5YA9E59vgHE/bZHibokpO4EDeJaQky/cANQ=; b=GsyOV3lS/mpci3SwQbltAeA+IN9Xd2lKVlYpwCrmoHFzcaPzVQLPTe5o+zg8PKgUpz yvrwSIjQPleHFAuI6wcSjFkj45PKD8YzqcxEe7BowVoHPWKdMB3Xj1WMF/hqbWT1FXAS UqvsdpbVtlQbTja4Zg5S9I0PysayvnK2z/e/c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GsDKQCXuoAheBFOBQcEtdbVDZ22JqMKgFetLvXW50gqBqHomW2KOianQi5pHdTS5yL 0ytWPCcyOnRvUmeR50BT9GZTnNgYO7/cbQHKXt+ouMhaWIXLM5oBsLJA9KtrTHzWnkz2 GE54hHNl6XmoT43znWjtwIiujAe/BTD+Q9f/0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.98.18 with SMTP id a18mr6002866anm.90.1250626270355; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:11:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00B06063-9872-4ACE-8767-1221C22E33EE@silvertree.org> References: <00B06063-9872-4ACE-8767-1221C22E33EE@silvertree.org> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:11:10 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Scott Schappell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:11:11 -0000 On 8/18/09, Scott Schappell wrote: > I have a drive (/dev/ad2s1d) mounted to /backup that I want to be read > only until the backup scripts run and then it will be read/write. If > I set /etc/fstab to: > > /dev/ad2s1d /backup ufs ro > 0 0 On my CF-based devices (firewalls.. nagios boxes, etc), I run: mount -uw / to update the mount (not mount again) the filesystem. If you're trying to mount again, I could understand why the box panics. Try in your script: mount -u -w /backups or shorter by a little: mount -uw /backups do your stuff, then go back to read-only: mount -ur /backups HTH > > to mount it read only most of the time then do: > > umount /backup > mount -o rw /backup > > the system crashes, it just reboots about 10 seconds into writing > data. The system is perfectly stable with it mounted read/write. > > Also, dmesg.boot has completely disappeared from the system, and > touch /var/log/dmesg.boot it does not get populated. > > # uname -a > FreeBSD arthur.silvertree.org 7.2-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 > #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT 2009 root@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/ > obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR i386 > > Any suggestions on the remounting drive and dmesg.boot? > > Thanks! > > Scott > > P.S. It's good to be off of FreeBSD 4.11 :) > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 20:35:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBD1106568E for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from archon@silvertree.org) Received: from arthur.silvertree.org (arthur.silvertree.org [173.11.101.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C81AE8FC55 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17222 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2009 13:35:41 -0700 Received: from webn1.ofoto.com (HELO ?192.168.62.44?) (66.128.224.196) by arthur.silvertree.org with SMTP; 18 Aug 2009 13:35:41 -0700 Message-Id: <88C90965-7961-456A-9FDF-5C0128012D2D@silvertree.org> From: Scott Schappell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:35:41 -0700 References: <00B06063-9872-4ACE-8767-1221C22E33EE@silvertree.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:35:43 -0000 On Aug 18, 2009, at 13:11:10, Tim Judd wrote: > On my CF-based devices (firewalls.. nagios boxes, etc), I run: > > mount -uw / > to update the mount (not mount again) the filesystem. If you're > trying to mount again, I could understand why the box panics. > > > Try in your script: > mount -u -w /backups > or shorter by a little: > mount -uw /backups > > do your stuff, then go back to read-only: > mount -ur /backups > > > HTH We have a winner. I am sheepish in admitting I didn't read the man page well enough for mount. Thanks for the answer! Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 23:38:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3238C106568E for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030B38FC61 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:38:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FB91CC1E; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:38:57 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4A8B3B91.8070302@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:38:57 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <4A8A5887.1080304@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <4A8A5887.1080304@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering files after a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:38:59 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > Hi: > > I woke op to a crash this morning after a powerfailure, and now dmesg > shows this: > > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1a is ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1d is ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1e is ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1f is ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad59f647596 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1g is ufsid/442f8ad59f647596. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1h is ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac1c0db9af2 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac5a7fa5dda removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ac950b22b46 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad3e5c88ab8 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ad59f647596 removed. > GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/442f8ae2200a8064 removed. > > The problem is that I have no idea which files were affected. > > So, now some questions: > > First, how do I determine which files were corrupted? And how do I > recover these files? > > Second, / is mostly read-only, in fact, I can't think of any file on > that partition that should be modified at all: /tmp is on a separate > partition, I have source files on /usr/local rather than the default, in > fact, only root user files are modified during a normal day, but it's > been days since I logged in as root. > > How do I protect read-only files from being corrupted in the first > place? I have tried mounting / read-only but that gave a load of other > problems. > > Thanks, Erik > > Aloha Eric, I think those readings are normal. But anything on a dead server is cause for alarm. I have lost powersupplies and mobo's from power strikes. If you have power failures often you can put the server (or desktop) on an extended UPSupply. Here on the island we have some power outages that last as long as 8 hours. (Earthquakes and wind storms).2 years ago I took 2 small UPS and hooked them to 2 stationary gelcell batteries (similar to car batteries), which allow my equipment of 4 servers to remain up and online for at least 10 hours. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 04:43:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9667C106568D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12F498FC61 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 53901 invoked by uid 89); 19 Aug 2009 04:44:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 19 Aug 2009 04:44:28 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8B82FD.30305@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:43:41 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070909090501040209060507" Subject: [OT] Vim mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:43:53 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070909090501040209060507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Apologies up front for the off-topic'dness. I'm thoroughly enjoying my new editor, and swiftly learning and experiencing the benefits. As a matter of fact, nearly everywhere I type, the common commands come naturally, and I get frustrated that all of my software doesn't work like vi does :) Getting to the point, I'd like to find a vi(m) community, but the list subscribe that appears authoritative for vim-users bounces. I despise and refuse to belong to web forums. Given that, where can I go to follow vim discussions, without having to bring it up OT here on my favourite list? 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Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:59:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A8B82FD.30305@ibctech.ca> References: <4A8B82FD.30305@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:59:05 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310908182259j202b1a0au82e15c7259a583c1@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Steve Bertrand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: [OT] Vim mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 05:59:07 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Apologies up front for the off-topic'dness. > > I'm thoroughly enjoying my new editor, and swiftly learning and > experiencing the benefits. As a matter of fact, nearly everywhere I > type, the common commands come naturally, and I get frustrated that all > of my software doesn't work like vi does :) > > Getting to the point, I'd like to find a vi(m) community, but the list > subscribe that appears authoritative for vim-users bounces. I despise > and refuse to belong to web forums. > > Given that, where can I go to follow vim discussions, without having to > bring it up OT here on my favourite list? > Hi, Steve Google has a Vim group. I'm not sure if you need a Google account or not. And, of course, there's this one: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php Regards, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 06:02:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4CE106568C for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:02:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay004.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay004.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8306F8FC45 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:02:05 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAEIyi0rDDR9Z/2dsb2JhbADYF4QZBYIq Received: from event89.event.belbone.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.89]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 19 Aug 2009 08:02:03 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:02:03 +0200 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090819055829.GA32249@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: kdebase4 installation failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:02:05 -0000 While installing kdebase4, I get the following error. What can I do to get this port installed. [ 41%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/konsoleprivate_automoc.o [ 41%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/BlockArray.o [ 43%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/BookmarkHandler.o [ 43%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/ColorScheme.o [ 43%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/Emulation.o [ 43%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/Filter.o [ 44%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/History.o [ 44%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/HistorySizeDialog.o [ 44%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/IncrementalSearchBar.o [ 44%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/KeyboardTranslator.o [ 45%] Building CXX object apps/konsole/src/CMakeFiles/konsoleprivate.dir/ProcessInfo.o /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp: In member function 'virtual bool FreeBSDProcessInfo::readCurrentDir(int)': /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:751: error: 'kinfo_getfile' was not declared in this scope /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:756: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct kinfo_file' /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:748: error: forward declaration of 'struct kinfo_file' /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:756: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct kinfo_file' /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:748: error: forward declaration of 'struct kinfo_file' /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:756: error: 'KF_FD_TYPE_CWD' was not declared in this scope /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:757: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct kinfo_file' /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:748: error: forward declaration of 'struct kinfo_file' /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:757: error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct kinfo_file' /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/work/kdebase-4.3.0/apps/konsole/src/ProcessInfo.cpp:748: error: forward declaration of 'struct kinfo_file' *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4. Thanks, Alain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 06:19:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8552106568B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baigsabeeh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3448FC60 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:19:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so2071963fxm.36 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:19:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aANwkeWjOayg3rT38l8fwSGdG7Xh24ZZkvLKc2hCEkc=; b=Vita7jSvBMQqcclvrfuZWt0UxHALUGcWq6eBjumZJ4IMubYQqY0jr+vXXhxJG/HtuJ wgOSrYlMlYkqjuCic1jZ6OtvL6EzL03JhIqlwDm6Uum8OdNWQW9ifAzXOiauEW4/VIUq f1Wa3X65TQdT6ejzDQkK/KllfbaViPofq/mks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=FGjXBv7gyjFNUnKOyrDnZ4Dm3cQuGP0DQouBCcNMLPbKoSbuJqjcADIdqSAt6zxlOx nPY57VIfHglTPDz/oRZIBP2QACdXIXLx/2p7G0ImBJUpWTO/IANt13PPMNMftUFKwpOr 1l7IwdJSwNFiL/ILP1BhtNpUuxdiPVugVjlRY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: baigsabeeh@gmail.com Received: by 10.103.126.9 with SMTP id d9mr2347954mun.103.1250661291403; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:54:51 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 76e2dffc6b63178e Message-ID: From: Sabeeh Baig To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Desktop Install Option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:19:53 -0000 So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation, something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? For those who need it, it'd be great. -- "No person has sustained greater loss than that whose learning could not restrain him from indulging in vices." | Imam Abu Hanifa Sabeeh Ahmed Baig From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 06:30:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDA6106568D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:30:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baerks@t-online.de) Received: from mailout07.t-online.de (mailout07.t-online.de [194.25.134.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841558FC3D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd03.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.t-online.de with smtp id 1MdehC-00079q-00; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:30:54 +0200 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (Xjm4T-ZQZh0DGyBl3UZxJ8mSgje8HZx8Vd2htj4YsYGGV8WD+sr3pDuTiMRgCojQ3y@[79.218.101.130]) by fwd03.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Mdeh5-1Z0gka0; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:30:47 +0200 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7J6VRsc071423 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:31:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from monkel@amd.catfish.ddns.org) Received: (from monkel@localhost) by amd.catfish.ddns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7J6VRFX071422 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:31:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from monkel) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:31:26 +0200 From: Sabine Baer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090819063126.GE81858@amd.catfish.ddns.org> References: <4A8B82FD.30305@ibctech.ca> <4ad871310908182259j202b1a0au82e15c7259a583c1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908182259j202b1a0au82e15c7259a583c1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-ID: Xjm4T-ZQZh0DGyBl3UZxJ8mSgje8HZx8Vd2htj4YsYGGV8WD+sr3pDuTiMRgCojQ3y X-TOI-MSGID: 48bbcc31-3d03-41fe-9961-4e917770e1fa Subject: Re: [OT] Vim mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:30:55 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:59:05AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: [...] > Google has a Vim group. I'm not sure if you need a Google account > or not. Perhaps it might be better to go to Usenet straight ahead. There's a NG comp.editors, mostly about vim. Sorry for jumping in, but I think Usenet is Usenet and Google is Google. Both have their merits but groups.google.com has little IMHO. Sabine -- Nicht das Schicksal zu aendern, sondern sich ihm zu unterwerfen, macht den Heroismus des autoritaeren Charakters aus. (E. Fromm) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 06:38:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3861B1065690 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:38:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB50C8FC60 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:38:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7J6c9gQ021300 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:38:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:38:13 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090819063810.GA15231@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: duplex printing with OOo. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:38:18 -0000 Well, this one was/is bizarre. I finally got my Brother 5250 networked printer to print duplex (AKA noth sides :) using % lpr file but from OpenOffice, no matter what I do, it only prints on one side. Has anybody runn ito this before and know how to get it to print double-sided? Note that in a day or three I will *finally* be printing off two copies of my thesis, and this will be "single-sided-only" according to the rules. So really, it's a dontcare.... well, other than I would like to know what and where and why to change this in the OO config. thanks guys, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 06:40:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE211065690 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610148FC57 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so2082532fxm.36 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:40:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MnVj5wpnJInRji6cF+s0VE3zvWABPXTzOJpY8UuoGAk=; b=LQBQtl1o29WaKJhhBhuDepzJua+iYPRttqP1LuEGsw1QMZx3hMcxEYrMYphAWN0JeK XXmUR0rLUrmd24dMsqD8VWmueoNFZUw8VqXY6EAVbTzSTnoLgxEfL5CVyDI/x+dB5HhZ SkN+WzWf3IpHV+N0VEFxr4nlsRJ8WoUqivtlA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vwDf8KqwQg+WLx0ucMiVEoGKthcSEp/JT5FWITLTXxzxANtJ09x+qUg+DmJjiQ3zfY FBUEfS4OIdukpGUJendZBuoFH2mpY1ltDnf97IMUdxbF4kJv5oaa+eH7iaj4pOWpwM66 Z0XWIFs4zwUlKKEb7SrATM1C0bltYFfPG2peQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.58.208 with SMTP id i16mr1461368fah.22.1250664055337; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:40:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090819063126.GE81858@amd.catfish.ddns.org> References: <4A8B82FD.30305@ibctech.ca> <4ad871310908182259j202b1a0au82e15c7259a583c1@mail.gmail.com> <20090819063126.GE81858@amd.catfish.ddns.org> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:40:55 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310908182340p4c0d4931q715a45956975501e@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Sabine Baer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] Vim mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:40:56 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Sabine Baer wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:59:05AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > > [...] > >> Google has a Vim group. =A0I'm not sure if you need a Google account >> or not. > > Perhaps it might be better to go to Usenet straight ahead. There's a > NG comp.editors, mostly about vim. > > Sorry for jumping in, but I think Usenet is Usenet and Google is > Google. Jump in all you want. After all, it was an admittedly [OT] post. :-) I agree. I don't see much use for Google's usenet "interface." (Especially since you can't post directly from it, AFAIK.) --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 06:51:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653E9106568E for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:51:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCB7C8FC70 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 58376 invoked by uid 89); 19 Aug 2009 06:52:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 19 Aug 2009 06:52:27 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8BA0FC.8010904@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:51:40 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sabine Baer References: <4A8B82FD.30305@ibctech.ca> <4ad871310908182259j202b1a0au82e15c7259a583c1@mail.gmail.com> <20090819063126.GE81858@amd.catfish.ddns.org> In-Reply-To: <20090819063126.GE81858@amd.catfish.ddns.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080202080904080608010803" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] Vim mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:51:52 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080202080904080608010803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sabine Baer wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:59:05AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > > [...] > >> Google has a Vim group. I'm not sure if you need a Google account >> or not. > > Perhaps it might be better to go to Usenet straight ahead. There's a > NG comp.editors, mostly about vim. > > Sorry for jumping in, but I think Usenet is Usenet and Google is > Google. > Both have their merits but groups.google.com has little IMHO. Thanks Glen, Sabine, The email list bounces upon sub are coming from an aliased Google address. Not only that, I absolutely need write access. I've joined groups through Google previously (that fit into my mailer), but couldn't post. There is little more frustrating when you know you can help someone, but can't speak. Although I work within an ISP network, NNTP is a protocol that has evaded me, and I don't have the time, nor the desire to learn about it. What I do know is that this ISP does not have access to a proper news server (that can be posted to), nor does any of it's direct peers. Am I missing something about posting to newsgroups? My understanding is ISP's don't utilize them anymore because of the ominous unavoidable illegal behaviour. If this is the case, ideas on a (legal) workaround so posting to text-only newsgroups would be great. Now that this has been brought up, I'd be interested if I could barder with another small ISP for this functionality. (post on -isp). 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FreeBSD is a general purpose > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used > on > servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation, > something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? For those > who need it, it'd be great. Not sure what you are looking for but I have a feeling that it may be something like http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/sysutils/desktopbsd-tools/pkg-descr http://desktopbsd.net/ Rgds, Peter. -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 07:18:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C941065690 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:18:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB2708FC61 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 61144 invoked by uid 89); 19 Aug 2009 07:19:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 19 Aug 2009 07:19:02 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8BA737.90205@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:18:15 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sabeeh Baig References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040900000501050203050003" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop Install Option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:18:26 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040900000501050203050003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sabeeh Baig wrote: > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on > servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation, > something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? For those > who need it, it'd be great. God willing, the majority of effort in regards to FreeBSD will be spent where it always has. FreeBSD is not Linux. There are those who are working toward making a GUI easier-to-implement, but afaik, that is not (and hope not) the design goal. Instead of "Desktop" features to appeal to people, what FreeBSD really needs is people who are willing to take the time to drop the GUI for a few weeks, and gain a bit of exposure and enlightenment. If it clicks, you're hooked. If not, then there's Linux and Windows. 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Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:25:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:25:40 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310908190025k58fd0a7er8b53ce81bdd958e3@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Sabeeh Baig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop Install Option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:25:42 -0000 Hi, On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Sabeeh Baig wrote: > So, I've been wondering about something. =A0FreeBSD is a general purpose > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used = on > servers. =A0Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation= , > something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? =A0For th= ose > who need it, it'd be great. > You may want to have a look at: http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com http://pcbsd.org/ http://desktopbsd.net --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 07:34:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AEDA106568F for ; 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z=Message-ID:=20<4A8BAAE7.40207@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Wed ,=2019=20Aug=202009=2008:33:59=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20 |Organization:=20Infracaninophile |User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.22=20(X11/20090817)|MIME-Versio n:=201.0|To:=20Steve=20Bertrand=20|CC:=20Sabine= 20Baer=20,=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Sub ject:=20Re:=20[OT]=20Vim=20mailing=20list|References:=20<4A8B82FD. 30305@ibctech.ca>=09<4ad871310908182259j202b1a0au82e15c7259a583c1@ mail.gmail.com>=09<20090819063126.GE81858@amd.catfish.ddns.org>=20 <4A8BA0FC.8010904@ibctech.ca>|In-Reply-To:=20<4A8BA0FC.8010904@ibc tech.ca>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.7|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Con tent-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20pr otocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------ ------enig12B169570C5A899FBB55DAFB"; b=b4NpPz1b5SaqQDxemMNriUDYeaSUxPKygSrcgDq91y3vEcbco3C8COBH4VYGCIY4s GwewokXMGHrOImJ+NiBioJ+Z6ETo4msHQEd8wobux3fnOGqwHfNjGDWfDwA2Sj1oVt 5/2R7LBghuza4PCBxwfK7ADni2otlsonBQ5vCoHM= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4] claimed to be significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net Message-ID: <4A8BAAE7.40207@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:33:59 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Bertrand References: <4A8B82FD.30305@ibctech.ca> <4ad871310908182259j202b1a0au82e15c7259a583c1@mail.gmail.com> <20090819063126.GE81858@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <4A8BA0FC.8010904@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4A8BA0FC.8010904@ibctech.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig12B169570C5A899FBB55DAFB" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Sabine Baer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] Vim mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:34:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig12B169570C5A899FBB55DAFB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve Bertrand wrote: > Am I missing something about posting to newsgroups? My understanding is= > ISP's don't utilize them anymore because of the ominous unavoidable > illegal behaviour. No -- it's not legal problems, which offer no worse consequences than for= defamatory postings on blogs or forums, but fashion. A lot of people seem to prefer to use web forums rather than newsgroups. I can't see any= particular advantage myself, and I've always preferred the e-mail/netnews= style myself. (Of course, for old farts like myself, this is a welcome return to the blessed golden age of usenet circa 1993 before the ravening hordes of AOL and it's successors descended upon it...) Because of that perceived shift, and because running a full-feed NNTP ser= ver is no trivial undertaking, many of the cheaper sort of ISPs have stopped providing NNTP as a standard part of their offerring. =20 > If this is the case, ideas on a (legal) workaround so posting to > text-only newsgroups would be great. Now that this has been brought up,= > I'd be interested if I could barder with another small ISP for this > functionality. (post on -isp). There are a number of pay-for net news services available. The ones I know of are based in Europe: http://www.eternal-september.org/ =20 http://news.individual.net/ See also: http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers/ Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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And how do I >> recover these files? > > From what you have shown it is impossible to tell. > > A short filesystem check (fsck -F) is run at boot time. If no major problems > are found, the complete filesystem check is done later in the background. > The result of that check will be visible in /var/log/messages. Thanks, I couldn't decipher these GEOM_LABEL messages, nice to know that I can stop worrying. But for future incidents, the second question remains: 1. How do I best protect my system from disk errors in case of a crash? I have a headless system with no spare head to attach and doing single-user blind-folded is further complicated by the fact that I'm not native to the US keyboard layout, so my top priority is that it boots. 2. When you have lost inodes or similar errors and stuff ends up in lost+found, how do you figure out what it was and recover the lost files? Is there a FBSD crash guide? Thanks, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 10:22:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5618D106568E for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heiner_ej@yahoo.de) Received: from n8.bullet.re3.yahoo.com (n8.bullet.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1058A8FC15 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [68.142.237.88] by n8.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2009 10:22:17 -0000 Received: from [69.147.75.181] by t4.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2009 10:22:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp102.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2009 10:22:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 437600.819.bm@omp102.mail.re1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 26060 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2009 10:22:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.de; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Subject:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2SHezIYR8nqEZ++eYnTwsWaQWvHFtUdrTD1F3uR11MU7UNQNvRypDdlreDNDd/lCR2TIvB93ff+/QwlJQSxfXZ2yrWrip6IMd2HHk0I50r4n19R7f4RnF27q5x4jmJBH5zqMW9YWT3d/dYzWz6Vt6+tVXtiqar1LibMLW+Yj1FE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.109?) (heiner_ej@84.144.43.154 with plain) by smtp109.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 2009 10:22:16 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4oilbwSswBDbRLHb6R1gRRq37n8E1w-- X-YMail-OSG: J875TS8VM1k42lhhz39yX.iPjnxoJ6ltRLSKoclIe4cUhNTcMsa7lzUr0fOLrgYbBUWSK9PZ3X.StNLmnjBxKXvo5mMFYmUGI.fqWsLtnB.iK1Cl2Bmz_iAR.mLRfWDId83puKht7FIrZq4EAIRHQioIZosrOT_lqJzqpy8R7vtUkFDY9K1eBOPef2YUWE.e__WRG.KyrxL_Fm72eyJ0uDIvuY.ScxYI_iFCMuf8XaVYNkJsdp1kffOyv3fmKgs5gaflGuR3PN39Rs2.nawVGxUyWa0snlE7LjIIZPSVno9BYg4qg2CDXEw.OWiKuxpqulFDxQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Heiner =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Strau=DF?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090819075946.1130A106580F@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20090819075946.1130A106580F@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:22:11 +0200 Message-Id: <1250677331.1178.23.camel@think.ip> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:22:18 -0000 Am Mittwoch, den 19.08.2009, 07:59 +0000 schrieb freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:45:27PM -0400, Karl Vogel wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:29 -0700, > > >> Walt Pawley said: > > > > W> As speculation on my part, perhaps the six character limitation > is less > > W> a software issue than an early architecture issue - DEC's > PDP-6/10 > > W> design used 36-bit words and packed six characters (clearly from > a > > W> limited subset of the then current ASCII) per word, making simple > > W> searches very effective through symbol tables with a simple word > level > > W> compare loop. > > > > I'll second that. My first job for Uncle Sugar was on a DEC > 10/55 > > for the Air Force, and 36-bit words were a fact of life. There > were > > lots of programs around for conversion to/from 32-bit words, just > so > > we could talk to everybody else on Earth. > > CDC (Control Data) mainframe machines used 6 bit characters. > I believe the 3600 series had 36 bit words. > The 6000 series (6400, 6500, etc, plus 170/750) used 60 bit words > but still used 6 bit characters. So, everything was all upper case. > It had 12 bit 'peripheral processors' which tended the 60 bit main > processor[s] so later started to use 12 bit characters or sometimes 8 > in 12 to allow for upper/lower case. That was a Seymour Cray thing. > He designed their early mainframes before he bolted to make his > own companies (so he wouldn't have to conform to corporate control). And I always thought it was 14 bit with 7 bit characters, perhaps this is why my outputs looked strange :) This was the last model I've used: http://www.cray-cyber.org/systems/cy960.php > Later CDC came out with their 180 series that used 64 bit words > and 8 bit bytes. It was kind of a nice system but it was too late for > them. The world was turning to clusters of cheap CPU chips running > UNIX > instead of massive mainframes running proprietary OSen and CDC didn't > jump on that bandwagon soon or strongly or cheaply enough. > > Anyway, in those earliest of days, 6 bits was the economical character > set. But it was an obstacle to upper/lower case characters without > using some shift code. IBM and DEC started doing 8 bit bytes - I > don't > know just when - and that allowed eash use of upper/lower characters > and > so quickly determined the standard character size for a long time. Didn't need lower case at this time. REAL PROGRAMMERS USED FORTRAN http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html The problem was, the programmers packed the string into integer arrays. 2 characters in 1 integer saved a lot of space, but the VAX didn't like this style. > Now > that 8 bit byte is a thorn in the side of those who want to create > and > universalize a character set that is international. > > ////jerry > Wasn't it just 3 or 4 releases ago FreeBSD went 8 bit clean ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 11:23:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B003C1065691 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890C28FC15 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from working (pool-72-95-226-5.pitbpa.ftas.verizon.net [72.95.226.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 642C0EBC0A; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:23:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:23:07 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090819072307.a5f2a541.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20090819063810.GA15231@thought.org> References: <20090819063810.GA15231@thought.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.0 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: duplex printing with OOo. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:23:16 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > > Well, this one was/is bizarre. I finally got my Brother 5250 networked > printer to print duplex (AKA noth sides :) using > > % lpr file > > but from OpenOffice, no matter what I do, it only prints on one side. Has > anybody runn ito this before and know how to get it to print double-sided? > > Note that in a day or three I will *finally* be printing off two copies of > my thesis, and this will be "single-sided-only" according to the rules. > So really, it's a dontcare.... well, other than I would like to know what > and where and why to change this in the OO config. It works for me, using 3 steps: 1) Use CUPS instead of lpd 2) Install a PPD for the printer that knows about duplex printing 3) Install OOo with CUPS support I don't know if it's possible to do through lpd, though. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 11:45:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618C8106568B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 205038328@cput.ac.za) Received: from bvsig.cput.ac.za (bvsig.cput.ac.za [198.54.223.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EDE488FC60 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from (bvcn0005.cput.ac.za [10.47.30.5]) by bvsig.cput.ac.za with smtp id 1bf9_bfe14b0a_8cb5_11de_8175_00188b332dac; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:45:10 +0200 Received: from Pentech-MTA by bvmail.cput.ac.za with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:42:47 +0200 Message-Id: <4A8C01DC.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0.1 Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:42:39 +0200 From: "BONGANI MANGANYE" <205038328@cput.ac.za> To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:50:30 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:45:16 -0000 I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will I pay if I need additional package like updates and other useful software,and can you tell how secure it is how protected i will be if i use freebsd -------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer This e-mail transmission contains confidential information, which is the property of the sender. 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For the detailed e-mail disclaimer please refer to http://www.cput.ac.za/email.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 11:55:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E47E106568B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E86B8FC52 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so5599471yxe.3 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:55:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z7dj4XB5iBFHQWfETM30XynSBnfpugYBHGjpckrCThI=; b=OY976OfX9Fa3RU13C0TmOnvhO2yIMro4N840uxwxzBE8K61SZqqInIhQO+DVRisxTs jBdwGpHj+TjlI+DbHufHxftJFEbSQKN0FuzvIBCAPsX26reMS0RXQyfgLM62MQHci1cX tV2/PSSXpdqigfMKpNWQebFBrQx8oZudC5PuI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GMHFu1Gf9jxyJToNwM8o/7X+3oaeKwDjDiz2E7ra09z7bCzIbr3ApSDwVYBMBtTqPd EQuHNvkHekeMGxwD81ITke2aWQKDZRqrqZLn0ls+2yw5Ict2VRthkRhTC9UFw7T52B/d 5Kvd1FxkgN7QSPe+wkpOYtJfaM8K8bXqpVfH0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.8.16 with SMTP id 16mr10318918ybh.131.1250682941445; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:55:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A8C01DC.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> References: <4A8C01DC.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:55:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: BONGANI MANGANYE <205038328@cput.ac.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:55:42 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:42 AM, BONGANI MANGANYE<205038328@cput.ac.za> wrote: > I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will I pay if I > need additional package like updates and other useful software,and can > you tell how secure it is how protected i will be if i use freebsd it's free along with the many, many, many software packages fBSD provides . . . and it's secure. have you checked out the website (www.freebsd.org)? It's a good place to start. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Disclaimer > This e-mail transmission contains confidential information, > which is the property of the sender. > The information in this e-mail or attachments thereto is > intended for the attention and use only of the addressee. > Should you have received this e-mail in error, please delete > and destroy it and any attachments thereto immediately. > Under no circumstances will the Cape Peninsula University of > Technology or the sender of this e-mail be liable to any party for > any direct, indirect, special or other consequential damages for any > use of this e-mail. > For the detailed e-mail disclaimer please refer to > http://www.cput.ac.za/email.php > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 12:57:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB9C106568E for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD0F8FC57 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 53AC91C1A67; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:57:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A8BF6CE.5010406@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:57:50 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BONGANI MANGANYE <205038328@cput.ac.za> References: <4A8C01DC.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <4A8C01DC.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:57:51 -0000 BONGANI MANGANYE wrote: > I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will I pay if I > need additional package like updates and other useful software,and can > you tell how secure it is how protected i will be if i use freebsd FreeBSD is free, and any updates are free. Third party applications may or may not be free depending on the license terms and the intended usage. This is no different than for any other operating system. There is only one operating system (AFAIK) that claims a definite level of security: OpenBSD claims to be "secure by default" and shows an impresive track record. This is defined as there are no known remote exploits in the most resent version in the default instalation. However, any change to the default configuration or installation of third party applications may change that. Really, there is no common or objective scale for comparing the security of different systems. Regardless of any claims, all liability is disclaimed. BR, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 13:40:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1BD106568D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0B58FC43 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:40:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so3466265bwz.43 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:40:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DckB2QYMUNuT5y0ALxiCK81NfBfMzLN0jhKCPxDl5sc=; b=hnIpfgiJ+7SI7edoCAqvaRgNFxeZ+waCFB4PFyI5iPQJhZxLWkxT+twxThM5/S8N4q hy/A+P0t+t0YRcfPEk0wIG5asX9PKUZGQcssN6E/2FVuIETMlKqyDsgBDYg2TxObNpmT Fxs4+r4rOloIWDWqg+GHEySRUczYyqKq1Ea5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Q9WD3hrHxcg3w4iWUmEsNIO0iRK82x6YAub5FNw9gNZJkYyg263W6nKOBxtMAQz4ZQ o6+7wRhao6ynp8PtoqUwdfC14sjir8NZAKSqf2Xc+11m7hJpRAI6Abs9VYS8ZP4GLnp8 Gz0h2L/9UkQg4j7L5Imi+KiTudslWhcBH1f3g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.144.71 with SMTP id y7mr1720614fau.53.1250689221387; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:40:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:40:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: Sabeeh Baig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop Install Option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:40:23 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Sabeeh Baig wrote: > So, I've been wondering about something. =A0FreeBSD is a general purpose > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used = on > servers. =A0Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation= , > something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? =A0For th= ose > who need it, it'd be great. > > -- > > Sabeeh Ahmed Baig I am of the opinion that specializing in everything is the same thing as specializing in nothing. (Said another way: If everything is a priority, nothing is.) Every operating system has its strengths and weaknesses. The more an operating system becomes all-things-to-all-users, the more it tends to lose its comparative edge in any one area. All of that being said, PC-BSD is a desktop solution on FreeBSD. You can download it for free or purchase it with support: http://www.pcbsd.org/ Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 13:55:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A3F106568F; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmw@coder.cl) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715CD8FC52; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so5684234yxe.3 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.235.1 with SMTP id i1mr4843774agh.5.1250688326449; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quake ([200.73.29.77]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 39sm1354127aga.61.2009.08.19.06.25.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:25:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Molina Wegener Organization: http://coder.cl/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:23:59 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4A8C01DC.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <4A8C01DC.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1621623.RxLzkDbIiA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200908190923.59655.dmw@coder.cl> Cc: questions@freebsd.org, BONGANI MANGANYE <205038328@cput.ac.za> Subject: Re: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dmw@coder.cl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:55:01 -0000 --nextPart1621623.RxLzkDbIiA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 19 August 2009 07:42:39 BONGANI MANGANYE wrote: > I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will > I pay if I need additional package like updates and other > useful software,and can you tell how secure it is how > protected i will be if i use freebsd FreeBSD is released under the BSD license: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php Most third party software is licensed as OSI Approved: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/category Some third party software have commercial restrictions, but are the minor ones... The only restrictions that you have to use FreeBSD are those restrictions which the license have. It also applies to third party software that you like to use. About the security on FreeBSD --- and most FOSS platforms =2D-- it depends on the system administrator. Reaching exploitable bugs is strange with a well done configuration. > > [SNIP] Best regards, =2D-=20 .O. | Daniel Molina Wegener | FreeBSD & Linux ..O | dmw [at] coder [dot] cl | Open Standards OOO | http://coder.cl/ | FOSS Developer --nextPart1621623.RxLzkDbIiA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAABCgAGBQJKi/zvAAoJEHxqfq6Y4O5NjDUP/jUs/WwGs4l/7k57gcc54NNl 38505NlevRD99oscXMJ08MMASH8pvSmFF26v3QYK5c+Zoeb29ZCYaFNOLIsrPFFV +WKq1S2mCXRKq0oXjul0wFWKkfrDXGXUXMz6RaPItxaY0V5HmhdyszZ4BW0tErnj CpvvEJhsPzesn/+FnmTAeUmVkX4/ZVNqBFRbdgDHz1XdDN0zfXeEG+uw9XAoWxYy KeTp2ADYSjJGU93gWdsU7mBc2rgJ3O7A8R+qLy6nIigvbnyd7cDwVoHJ9Y9WGMz7 mjcJI3brOQxtg7kM8UCH9J+XpXA8lCX/9C6z3JJMCT+NXv92VrO4pZw6OdBVliV9 bf8r4HAmD/70z6/WK5YLwROgr4HE0zfmR2AGX9n1mPTT9FsCkkL7tOPJAnPEvawK B/HQbnKr7/zkV7xzfrML1f5SOOI3sNF9mSz0q80zgnxfHMWaoi/W/eZ/o86xS7bM UlPIWp0LcjbA9S5vCksVE8HW1sHPij0sRLcFt3o9Tqh9zyO820GgSDsWyMaH5Wk3 pZj8xt1A8Npl8t3bqLDTBOtQRE1jKw92kq8ydMhmIZnqNPLMX/8LR0Tr976YkanZ IVS10F+4tJR28Crkz8U2XbDvhDML2lKVpCFlPo7syDhVvlf8UyhPcH2AWxz3/il0 emXq50TLPlSw39vaWsAH =/tBI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1621623.RxLzkDbIiA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 13:55:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A3F106568F; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmw@coder.cl) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715CD8FC52; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so5684234yxe.3 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.235.1 with SMTP id i1mr4843774agh.5.1250688326449; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quake ([200.73.29.77]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 39sm1354127aga.61.2009.08.19.06.25.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:25:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Molina Wegener Organization: http://coder.cl/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:23:59 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4A8C01DC.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> In-Reply-To: <4A8C01DC.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1621623.RxLzkDbIiA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200908190923.59655.dmw@coder.cl> Cc: questions@freebsd.org, BONGANI MANGANYE <205038328@cput.ac.za> Subject: Re: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dmw@coder.cl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:55:01 -0000 --nextPart1621623.RxLzkDbIiA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 19 August 2009 07:42:39 BONGANI MANGANYE wrote: > I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will > I pay if I need additional package like updates and other > useful software,and can you tell how secure it is how > protected i will be if i use freebsd FreeBSD is released under the BSD license: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php Most third party software is licensed as OSI Approved: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/category Some third party software have commercial restrictions, but are the minor ones... The only restrictions that you have to use FreeBSD are those restrictions which the license have. It also applies to third party software that you like to use. About the security on FreeBSD --- and most FOSS platforms =2D-- it depends on the system administrator. Reaching exploitable bugs is strange with a well done configuration. > > [SNIP] Best regards, =2D-=20 .O. | Daniel Molina Wegener | FreeBSD & Linux ..O | dmw [at] coder [dot] cl | Open Standards OOO | http://coder.cl/ | FOSS Developer --nextPart1621623.RxLzkDbIiA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAABCgAGBQJKi/zvAAoJEHxqfq6Y4O5NjDUP/jUs/WwGs4l/7k57gcc54NNl 38505NlevRD99oscXMJ08MMASH8pvSmFF26v3QYK5c+Zoeb29ZCYaFNOLIsrPFFV +WKq1S2mCXRKq0oXjul0wFWKkfrDXGXUXMz6RaPItxaY0V5HmhdyszZ4BW0tErnj CpvvEJhsPzesn/+FnmTAeUmVkX4/ZVNqBFRbdgDHz1XdDN0zfXeEG+uw9XAoWxYy KeTp2ADYSjJGU93gWdsU7mBc2rgJ3O7A8R+qLy6nIigvbnyd7cDwVoHJ9Y9WGMz7 mjcJI3brOQxtg7kM8UCH9J+XpXA8lCX/9C6z3JJMCT+NXv92VrO4pZw6OdBVliV9 bf8r4HAmD/70z6/WK5YLwROgr4HE0zfmR2AGX9n1mPTT9FsCkkL7tOPJAnPEvawK B/HQbnKr7/zkV7xzfrML1f5SOOI3sNF9mSz0q80zgnxfHMWaoi/W/eZ/o86xS7bM UlPIWp0LcjbA9S5vCksVE8HW1sHPij0sRLcFt3o9Tqh9zyO820GgSDsWyMaH5Wk3 pZj8xt1A8Npl8t3bqLDTBOtQRE1jKw92kq8ydMhmIZnqNPLMX/8LR0Tr976YkanZ IVS10F+4tJR28Crkz8U2XbDvhDML2lKVpCFlPo7syDhVvlf8UyhPcH2AWxz3/il0 emXq50TLPlSw39vaWsAH =/tBI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1621623.RxLzkDbIiA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 13:59:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFDF106568E for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F2C8FC74 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so6266537ywh.28 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:59:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=W5lP6XC+bk/WJkyjpT3VQrPemQrZ0YqaqkyM8hKz5EU=; b=Qe/9Qq2FMxWmlFJndid3co2JkWD4JgZI3I5QpifFwrWhpP2vbiqNsp4se7wfSW3paV W4qcK1cES+GvQNhzCGWwFxOaFMCUU/cKUJvmJeE5Icw7EJLQvgsKSje0YbqCU0fvAivs Ap6nUkTIteHzwhUbG3aSOIbH0Q/I/TkUvvMI8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=V38XhF0yMoaUkrioujfvTeNkmX2koa+jtJgUF3QzBPznOcgPqhg61ovRVfXxMH+eff ReVOdelZfwXJpUnc9xtNubyr8li5yCesVuZt5Nrj7T80ByylfZSLNLAtKtJYDEOUKHmG /1HliL3Nc8Owe/U4kuwWe8/kA6/l1wqKwSbDc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.4.19 with SMTP id g19mr10523348ybi.185.1250690382754; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:59:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:59:42 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908190659x571b9b9elae0e76ff47301f3@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Sabeeh Baig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop Install Option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:59:43 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Sabeeh Baig wrote: > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on > servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation, > something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? On Debian Lenny, let me know how the install of kde4 goes. Not attempting to disregard your view, just saying there are roadblocks to every approach. IMO, the FreeBSD method allows for greatest flexibility. > For those > who need it, it'd be great. > > -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 14:37:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145F1106568E for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:37:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE588FC15 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7JEYfV0079346; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:34:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n7JEYfFG079345; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:34:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:34:41 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Sabeeh Baig Message-ID: <20090819143441.GC79122@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop Install Option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:37:56 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:54:51AM -0400, Sabeeh Baig wrote: > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on > servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation, > something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? For those > who need it, it'd be great. Really, all the desktop options you get on Linux are available for FreeBSD. KDE and Gnome are the main things and many people install one of them to make a desktop environment. The main difference with FreeBSD over Lunix is that Linux sort of forces it on you and FreeBSD gives you a choice. That means you have to click one more thing during installation to get that stuff installed. But, if you are doing a server, you don't have to spend an extra hour or two getting rid of all the bloat you don't need or want like on some other systems. To add to that, some people have packaged desktop versions of FreeBSD with all those gui extras already included just to make you happy. Probably someone else will post their favorites with links. ////jerry > -- > "No person has sustained greater loss than that whose learning could not > restrain him from indulging in vices." | Imam Abu Hanifa > > Sabeeh Ahmed Baig > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 14:38:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DD1106568D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED508FC65 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:38:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7JEcI50009261 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:38:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n7JEcI50009261 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1250692699; bh=2y6AbJz5U11PEb6W1q7fWCq8BBoqzWHoeZ5SVuvsWaA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A8C0E54.3080607@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2019=20Aug=202009=2015:38:12=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.22=20(X11/20090817)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Andrew=20Gould=20|CC:= 20Sabeeh=20Baig=20,=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.or g|Subject:=20Re:=20Desktop=20Install=20Option|References:=20=20|In-Reply-To: =20|X -Enigmail-Version:=200.95.7|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type: =20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D" application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig BA0F048D287FE0534C7709BC"; b=tHDCTUMDsRax8PG9SLhLY4DgyrodAeFSpD0egH70l9odswxfFN7hh65OfAKOlai0o L0T6C1uE74e0/mQoB7aOnzE7NOMU/uVPyB2egMcATIjJL9kOhIDp9UeqUrsQV/ywq0 ae3vNpqB/vbzKuI8d27hvcu/YW8ZSAP4zzDUQqYY= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4] claimed to be significant-gravitas-shortfall.thebunker.net Message-ID: <4A8C0E54.3080607@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:38:12 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gould References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBA0F048D287FE0534C7709BC" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Sabeeh Baig , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop Install Option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:38:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBA0F048D287FE0534C7709BC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andrew Gould wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Sabeeh Baig wrote: >> So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose= >> operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been us= ed on >> servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installatio= n, >> something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? For t= hose >> who need it, it'd be great. >> >> -- >> >> Sabeeh Ahmed Baig >=20 > I am of the opinion that specializing in everything is the same thing > as specializing in nothing. (Said another way: If everything is a > priority, nothing is.) Every operating system has its strengths and > weaknesses. The more an operating system becomes > all-things-to-all-users, the more it tends to lose its comparative > edge in any one area. >=20 > All of that being said, PC-BSD is a desktop solution on FreeBSD. You > can download it for free or purchase it with support: > http://www.pcbsd.org/ That's true, but the FreeBSD "thing" is performance[*] which, curiously e= nough is at the core of a good desktop system as well as the core of a good ser= ver system. In fact, the missing parts required to make a good desktop out o= f FreeBSD are more to do with graphics hardware support -- much of which co= mes out of the Xorg project now -- and support for various proprietary data f= ormats and software packages like flash, and, of course, a really well wr= itten user interface. Or to put it another way, you can build a good desktop system based on a = good server OS, but it's pretty hard to build a good desktop system based on a= bad server OS. Cheers, Matthew [*] and for completeness, the NetBSD "thing" is portability, and the Open= BSD "thing" is security. Not that the big three *BSDs are entirely lacki= ng in any of those departments. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK --------------enigBA0F048D287FE0534C7709BC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkqMDloACgkQ3jDkPpsZ+VZbvACgwyHE27gL7sc32LESIjiaI4cs WGoAoInU9XdJ6I6exFTP27eW3RtK0CSb =fP41 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBA0F048D287FE0534C7709BC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 14:46:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C4D106568C for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:46:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F618FC3F for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7JEhXQf079406; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:43:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n7JEhXCb079405; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:43:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:43:33 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: BONGANI MANGANYE <205038328@cput.ac.za> Message-ID: <20090819144333.GD79122@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A8C01DC.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A8C01DC.4C29.0070.0@cput.ac.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:46:51 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:42:39PM +0200, BONGANI MANGANYE wrote: > I know freebsd is free but i would like to know how much will I pay if I > need additional package like updates and other useful software, Nothing if you install stuff from ports or from any of the many free software products available. If you need something, first look through the 'ports' list on FreeBSD. It is probably there. It might take some hints as to just which ports directory to look under, but people will usually make useful suggestions if you ask on the list with a specific question. > and can > you tell how secure it is how protected i will be if i use freebsd More secure than most other systems. Especially more secure than anything from Redmond. All of the tools for implementing and monitoring security are available on FreeBSD. Of course you have to use good practices. If you give away passwords or use bad software, no system can help you with security. But FreeBSD gives the best tools of the generally available (and especially the freely available) operating systems for PCs. ////jerry > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Disclaimer > This e-mail transmission contains confidential information, > which is the property of the sender. > The information in this e-mail or attachments thereto is > intended for the attention and use only of the addressee. > Should you have received this e-mail in error, please delete > and destroy it and any attachments thereto immediately. > Under no circumstances will the Cape Peninsula University of > Technology or the sender of this e-mail be liable to any party for > any direct, indirect, special or other consequential damages for any > use of this e-mail. > For the detailed e-mail disclaimer please refer to > http://www.cput.ac.za/email.php > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 15:35:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A16D106568C for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from lrelay01.edpnet.net (lrelay01.edpnet.net [212.71.1.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C588FC55 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bsdaddict.localnet (213.219.160.87.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [213.219.160.87]) by lrelay01.edpnet.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7JF0THn019016 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:00:29 +0200 From: beni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:00:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-STABLE; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A8BA737.90205@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4A8BA737.90205@ibctech.ca> X-Face: $,~&QrDrInYiH(ZUXjNH_0r4q\`w83!}&; +8c.K[`NnZwV|m$5N{NCkWesaR.9|yqIC[)g=a;93dz2mP7iv)LLzBd;6^Y:=*>@U;_\+4( MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908191700.28341.beni@brinckman.info> X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at lrelay01.edpnet.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on lrelay01.edpnet.net Subject: Re: Desktop Install Option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: beni@brinckman.info List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:35:50 -0000 Op woensdag 19 augustus 2009 09:18:15 schreef Steve Bertrand: > Sabeeh Baig wrote: > > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used > > on servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop > > installation, something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard > > Desktop"? For those who need it, it'd be great. > > God willing, the majority of effort in regards to FreeBSD will be spent > where it always has. > > FreeBSD is not Linux. There are those who are working toward making a > GUI easier-to-implement, but afaik, that is not (and hope not) the > design goal. > > Instead of "Desktop" features to appeal to people, what FreeBSD really > needs is people who are willing to take the time to drop the GUI for a > few weeks, and gain a bit of exposure and enlightenment. If it clicks, > you're hooked. If not, then there's Linux and Windows. > > Steve That seems to be the standard answer here when (periodicaly) this questions comes up :-) "We don't need it" (the "we" being the server-gurus). It's that or "if you want it, do it yourself". But to me it seems that the question returns regularly and that there must be a certain demand for it. So why don't you let the user decide if he wants a bloated desktop or a lean mean server ? Now I don't have that option... That is why I run pc-bsd now. They are able to do a GUI install of a desktop on top of a solid OS, something that the hardcore server/headless/serial/admins/whatever users here don't seem to care about. And yes, I know this discussion has been done already several times here :-) -- Beni. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 15:40:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86C5106568B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676928FC3F for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:40:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EB93C813; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:40:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7JFepn9001887; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:40:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:40:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Bill Moran Message-Id: <20090819174050.9e09a934.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090819072307.a5f2a541.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <20090819063810.GA15231@thought.org> <20090819072307.a5f2a541.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: duplex printing with OOo. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:40:54 -0000 On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:23:07 -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > It works for me, using 3 steps: > > 1) Use CUPS instead of lpd CUPS brings its own lpd, so in fact you're still using a lpd, even if it's not the system one's. :-) > 2) Install a PPD for the printer that knows about duplex printing It seems that this Brother printer does not come with an "operator panel" where you can set default modes. As an example, you can tell a HP laserjet 4000 duplex to be duplex by default, so you don't need additional configuration. For "modern" printers, PPD files are needed to make printer spoolers and filters aware of what capabilities the printer has. This is needed if the printer does not conform to standard printer languages, such as PS or PCL. > 3) Install OOo with CUPS support There are some printer settings available in OO, but maybe they do not cover all the printer's capabilities. > I don't know if it's possible to do through lpd, though. With a real printer, it works by default. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 15:51:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEAE106568B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA59C8FC3D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001A03D2EF; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:51:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7JFpOBg001912; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:51:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:51:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Heiner =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Strau=DF?= Message-Id: <20090819175123.dbf67726.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1250677331.1178.23.camel@think.ip> References: <20090819075946.1130A106580F@hub.freebsd.org> <1250677331.1178.23.camel@think.ip> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:51:26 -0000 On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:22:11 +0200, Heiner Strau=DF wr= ote: > Didn't need lower case at this time. REAL PROGRAMMERS USED FORTRAN >=20 > http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html When you're there, don't miss "The story about Mel". By the way... we have a Mel on our mailing list... :-) http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/mel.html Little history lesson from far away: In approx. 1950, the IBM N.O.R.C. processed numerical values only. There were no plans to make the printer print characters because "no need for this" was seen. Even the need for a programming language like FORTRAN wasn't seen. :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 16:00:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB72106568E for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3792A8FC64 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7JFvLZn079638; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:57:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n7JFvLuD079637; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:57:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:57:21 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: beni Message-ID: <20090819155721.GA79601@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A8BA737.90205@ibctech.ca> <200908191700.28341.beni@brinckman.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200908191700.28341.beni@brinckman.info> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop Install Option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:00:36 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 05:00:27PM +0200, beni wrote: > Op woensdag 19 augustus 2009 09:18:15 schreef Steve Bertrand: > > Sabeeh Baig wrote: > > > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > > > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used > > > on servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop > > > installation, something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard > > > Desktop"? For those who need it, it'd be great. > > > > God willing, the majority of effort in regards to FreeBSD will be spent > > where it always has. > > > > FreeBSD is not Linux. There are those who are working toward making a > > GUI easier-to-implement, but afaik, that is not (and hope not) the > > design goal. > > > > Instead of "Desktop" features to appeal to people, what FreeBSD really > > needs is people who are willing to take the time to drop the GUI for a > > few weeks, and gain a bit of exposure and enlightenment. If it clicks, > > you're hooked. If not, then there's Linux and Windows. > > > > Steve > > That seems to be the standard answer here when (periodicaly) this questions > comes up :-) "We don't need it" (the "we" being the server-gurus). It's that > or "if you want it, do it yourself". But to me it seems that the question > returns regularly and that there must be a certain demand for it. So why don't > you let the user decide if he wants a bloated desktop or a lean mean server ? > Now I don't have that option... That is why I run pc-bsd now. They are able > to do a GUI install of a desktop on top of a solid OS, something that the > hardcore server/headless/serial/admins/whatever users here don't seem to care > about. > And yes, I know this discussion has been done already several times here :-) FreeBSD is the one that does let users have an option. One of those options is pcBSD. There are others who make up a bundle with FreeBSD as the base OS that already has your GUI and other things built for you -- a FreeBSD desktop. I hear they install real easily and work well. It is not what I need so I haven't tried them, but rather than raile at those who are building a good platform, just go and get one of those bundles. Seems you actually have already - a pretty close to FreeBSD based bundle anyway. ////jerry > -- > Beni. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 16:09:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2531106568D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6D38FC65 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7JG9vap044716; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:09:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2DFA7BA8F; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:09:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:09:57 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Erik Norgaard Message-ID: <20090819160956.GA71105@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A8A5887.1080304@locolomo.org> <20090818171528.GA35403@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A8BB0E4.2020806@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A8BB0E4.2020806@locolomo.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering files after a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:09:59 -0000 --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 09:59:32AM +0200, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Thanks, I couldn't decipher these GEOM_LABEL messages, nice to know that= =20 > I can stop worrying. But for future incidents, the second question remain= s: >=20 > 1. How do I best protect my system from disk errors in case of a crash? One word: _backups_! Multiple solutions are possible. You can have two disks in RAID1 (mirroring, which is like instantaneous backup). Or you can have two disks where the second is kept up-to-date by rsync running from cron (this also gives you a limited undo functionality if you accidentaly delete a file). Ar you can ba= ck up to a NAS, USB connected disk or to tape. > I have a headless system with no spare head to attach and doing=20 > single-user blind-folded is further complicated by the fact that I'm not= =20 > native to the US keyboard layout, so my top priority is that it boots. If you can connect it to another system (that has a monitor) via a serial null-modem cable and you enable the serial console (see the Handbook), you = can watch the boot process from the other system. If you don't have anothe machine closeby, you should get a network-accessib= le KVM switch with serial connectors. [maybe something like this: http://www.knuerr.com/web/en/products/kvm/kvm-switch-dominion-ksx.html]=20 With such a switch and the serial console you should be able to watch the b= oot of the machine remotely. > 2. When you have lost inodes or similar errors and stuff ends up in=20 > lost+found, how do you figure out what it was and recover the lost files? You have to look at the contents of the files in lost&found. Usually it is easier to restore from backup. > Is there a FBSD crash guide? Not that I know of. The only guidance that really matter would be "make sure you have backed up critical data". No need for elaborate guides. :-) Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqMI9QACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWtaACgoSa/JaQNFugyDRP2vT3un57X CrkAnRwu4/bwsiMwB3xZ7TmZ4ItJ/ywR =oRna -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 16:13:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18096106568D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94C28FC3F for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90ED3D452; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:13:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7JGDN7h001999; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:13:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:13:23 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <20090819181323.e13acf05.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090819155721.GA79601@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A8BA737.90205@ibctech.ca> <200908191700.28341.beni@brinckman.info> <20090819155721.GA79601@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, beni Subject: Re: Desktop Install Option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:13:25 -0000 On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:57:21 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > FreeBSD is the one that does let users have an option. One of > those options is pcBSD. There are others who make up a bundle > with FreeBSD as the base OS that already has your GUI and other > things built for you -- a FreeBSD desktop. I hear they install > real easily and work well. It is not what I need so I haven't > tried them, but rather than raile at those who are building a good > platform, just go and get one of those bundles. Seems you actually > have already - a pretty close to FreeBSD based bundle anyway. Even if you state the existance of FreeBSD based preinstalled and preconfigured GUI oriented desktop environments, the next "problem" that will arise is the availability of a live file system that can be booted and tried out, such as: "The $NAME Linux distribution can be run from a DVD and I don't have to install it in order to try it out. And when I want, I can install it from the same media. Why can't FreeBSD have such thing?" The answer is: Is has. After a short read on the homepage of the FreeBSD project, the reader will have learned that there is a live file system (Fixit) on the install CDs or DVDs. But that's text mode, so no deal. BUT projects like FreeSBIE feature a XFCE driven FreeBSD based preinstalled and preconfigured GUI oriented desktop environment that can be used without installing anything. It's very useful for diagnostics and recovery preparations. And it's FreeBSD. I just wanted to mention it, in case a question like above arises. It usually does. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 16:15:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53381106568F for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:15:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7B28FC15 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7JGF7YB046818; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:15:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 51AABBA8F; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:15:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:15:07 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Sabeeh Baig Message-ID: <20090819161507.GB71105@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="i0/AhcQY5QxfSsSZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop Install Option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:15:09 -0000 --i0/AhcQY5QxfSsSZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:54:51AM -0400, Sabeeh Baig wrote: > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used = on > servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation, > something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? For those > who need it, it'd be great. Just install any of the destkop environment ports like Gnome, KDE or XFCE, whichever takes your fancy. That will give you the basics. Other apps are j= ust a port away. :-) My workstation has been running FreeBSD since 5.3-RELEASE.=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --i0/AhcQY5QxfSsSZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqMJQsACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUBuQCeL/xZ9tTDrjrL39i7aQ39056v 2NAAnjug7n952JiQod9Swb2vljs09aRM =vhcl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --i0/AhcQY5QxfSsSZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 16:17:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65B31065696 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from archon@silvertree.org) Received: from arthur.silvertree.org (arthur.silvertree.org [173.11.101.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B06F8FC15 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8798 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2009 09:17:10 -0700 Received: from webn1.ofoto.com (HELO ?192.168.62.44?) (66.128.224.196) by arthur.silvertree.org with SMTP; 19 Aug 2009 09:17:10 -0700 Message-Id: <634E56EB-F49A-4A25-ABE1-0A23D6181BC1@silvertree.org> From: Scott Schappell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:17:10 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Getting rid of X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:17:10 -0000 In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I installed FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I installed X, however, I don't need it or really want it. How can I pare that out of the system short of doing a complete rebuild? Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 16:19:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC0C106568D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:19:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E938FC55 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so3560348bwz.43 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:19:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tetRxsP1gNJK2M+pm7zPvcJKoJf5LmksxmFD0/hh5Ys=; b=GWcoRNLouObxPnP78rVYri9lTyeexfMa/1vUB3QeNaSW4kDQenxzT+H99+aC5XIEE4 oG7GUTZtzggHC3DTfVN+YtER5r3WqdKygIFevBtUaSN5FUXZ0l8TDXEMnMF4/X2P9m6e 2N8f09vKyoRQo1yVp/9hiQ49pTYqgUfyZ5B6o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TYjqi0MF6/Nu/dF45NoU4KcNKUR0E4IP2mbaplcoLX8t7ZDyk44OJltP4bMKf3PTDv AEd79KaVIfkcTo3G5rG1hwW/8zGslcDa0jNzObRJYb5LjwZclfONT0DS3e/IZlBeF7St YGgGkjBV3Cy7yXDMuwJ9ORCDrJPt/vvxB2PZo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.15.23 with SMTP id i23mr1788294faa.107.1250698796244; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:19:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <634E56EB-F49A-4A25-ABE1-0A23D6181BC1@silvertree.org> References: <634E56EB-F49A-4A25-ABE1-0A23D6181BC1@silvertree.org> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:19:56 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310908190919s7aac6fdarca072b70c3fa1ed0@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Scott Schappell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting rid of X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:19:59 -0000 Hi, On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Scott Schappell wrote: > In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I installed > FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I installed X, > however, I don't need it or really want it. > > How can I pare that out of the system short of doing a complete rebuild? > You can deinstall the x11/xorg metaport. (Or, pkg_delete -x xorg.) The "leftovers" can be removed with ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves. HTH -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 16:20:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDBE1065690 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32408FC55 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jnielsen.socialserve.com (office.socialserve.com [208.60.89.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n7JGKoel085605; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:20:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:20:44 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <634E56EB-F49A-4A25-ABE1-0A23D6181BC1@silvertree.org> In-Reply-To: <634E56EB-F49A-4A25-ABE1-0A23D6181BC1@silvertree.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908191220.44893.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Scott Schappell Subject: Re: Getting rid of X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:20:52 -0000 On Wednesday 19 August 2009 12:17:10 Scott Schappell wrote: > In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I > installed FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I > installed X, however, I don't need it or really want it. > > How can I pare that out of the system short of doing a complete rebuild? Install and run pkg-cutleaves, and let it loop through as many iterations as it needs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 16:29:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB03106568F for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:29:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Received: from bobby.forestinformatics.com (cvo-cr1-200-239.peak.org [69.59.200.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62D48FC64 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (rufus.forestinformatics.com [192.168.0.2]) by bobby.forestinformatics.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n7JGSt5H011606; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:29:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff.hamann@forestinformatics.com) Message-Id: From: Jeff Hamann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:29:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on bobby.forestinformatics.com Subject: netbooks for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:29:24 -0000 I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD. Requirements: 1) Need to able to wipe out any ms-windows stuff, get installed, boot up and running within 60 minutes of my time. Download, svn checkouts, etc. not included. I've tired of spending weekend marathons for "fun" 2) Normal user will boot up in graphical interface, connect to net, etc. without anything other than one finger (touchpad?) I'm thinking this is a normal end-user requirement. 3) <$200 even possible? 4) hook up gps units? cronjobs? Am I dreaming? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 16:38:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10E6106568E for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:38:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from archon@silvertree.org) Received: from arthur.silvertree.org (arthur.silvertree.org [173.11.101.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B669A8FC16 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:38:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13312 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2009 09:38:45 -0700 Received: from webn1.ofoto.com (HELO ?192.168.62.44?) (66.128.224.196) by arthur.silvertree.org with SMTP; 19 Aug 2009 09:38:45 -0700 Message-Id: <31BFF1C3-0032-43E5-86EA-B2BAF224DDE7@silvertree.org> From: Scott Schappell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908190919s7aac6fdarca072b70c3fa1ed0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:38:44 -0700 References: <634E56EB-F49A-4A25-ABE1-0A23D6181BC1@silvertree.org> <4ad871310908190919s7aac6fdarca072b70c3fa1ed0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: Getting rid of X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:38:46 -0000 On Aug 19, 2009, at 09:19:56, Glen Barber wrote: > Hi, > > You can deinstall the x11/xorg metaport. (Or, pkg_delete -x xorg.) > The "leftovers" can be removed with ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves. > > HTH > > > -- > Glen Barber Thanks, Glen and John. I pared out 72 packages. I kept ones that seemed ambiguously related to X just to be on the safe side. Scot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 16:58:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BABF106568B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mak@kolybabi.com) Received: from mail.nepharia.org (mail.nepharia.org [209.44.104.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AAC8FC43 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brisbane.nepharia.org (wnpgmb0805w-ad05-97-109.dynamic.mts.net [74.216.97.109]) by mail.nepharia.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4A6A03F0797; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:58:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: by brisbane.nepharia.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) mak@kolybabi.com; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:58:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:58:43 -0500 From: Mak Kolybabi To: Jeff Hamann Message-ID: <20090819165842.GA14421@brisbane.nepharia.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:58:47 -0000 On 2009-08-19 09:29, Jeff Hamann wrote: > I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can somebody > recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD. I've put FreeBSD on an Asus Eee PC before. It worked rather nicely. Just be careful, because the wiki[1] page notes that some models contain unsupported hardware. [1] http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee -- Matthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak) () ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org | Against proprietary extensions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 16:58:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8AE1065691 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:58:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2AF98FC5B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26937 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2009 16:32:10 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Aug 2009 16:32:10 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B006C5082B; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:32:08 -0400 (EDT) To: Erik Norgaard , questions@freebsd.org References: <4A8A5887.1080304@locolomo.org> <20090818171528.GA35403@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A8BB0E4.2020806@locolomo.org> <20090819160956.GA71105@slackbox.xs4all.nl> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:32:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20090819160956.GA71105@slackbox.xs4all.nl> (Roland Smith's message of "Wed\, 19 Aug 2009 18\:09\:57 +0200") Message-ID: <44ocqbojcn.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: Recovering files after a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:58:50 -0000 Roland Smith writes: >> Is there a FBSD crash guide? > > Not that I know of. The only guidance that really matter would be "make sure > you have backed up critical data". No need for elaborate guides. :-) Any data that isn't securely backed up, including offsite, isn't really important to you. However, having other measures in place can be worthwhile as well, for convenience if nothing else. In particular, a UPS is usually a good idea, and monitoring it so the system does a clean shutdown before running out of power can make it even more so (not in all situations, but in many). Integrity checks on files will catch damage to files; ZFS does this automatically, but mtree(8) can do various types of checksums to serve the purpose as well. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 16:59:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BF91065694 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73FC78FC57 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F8E1DEF3; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:59:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7JGxlqI002110; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:59:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:59:47 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jeff Hamann Message-Id: <20090819185947.3920324b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:59:50 -0000 On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:29:12 -0700, Jeff Hamann wrote: > 1) Need to able to wipe out any ms-windows stuff, get installed, boot > up and running within 60 minutes of my time. Download, svn checkouts, > etc. not included. I've tired of spending weekend marathons for "fun" There's a good procedure for what you're mentioning. It takes placec on Asus EEEpc. http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC.txt There's an updated version, too, but I didn't have that in my bookmarks, and I'm too lazy to google for it. :-) Additionally, check out the FreeBSD wiki at http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee about how to get FreeBSD on there. I'm very sure there are other netbooks that can be used in the same way. > 2) Normal user will boot up in graphical interface, Create user; entry al= in /etc/gettytab; set ~/.login to contain startx; ~/.xinitrc and / or ~/.xsession to start DE or WM and "autostart" applications as desired. Or use KDE. > connect to net, Correct settings in /etc/rc.conf for dhclient, or settings for connecting to WLAN APs using the proper configuration files. > etc. without anything other than one finger (touchpad?) It's possible to do this with ZERO fingers, automatically. :-) As I said, KDE comes with most functionalities needed for that. > I'm thinking > this is a normal end-user requirement. I do consider myself as a normal end-user, and I don't have such a requirement, but finally, end-users are quite different, even in what they think about other end-users. :-) > 3) <$200 even possible? I think it's possible. > 4) hook up gps units? cronjobs? First: Don't know, never needed, never tried. Consult documentation of intended GPS unit. Second: Yes. > Am I dreaming? No. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 17:00:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271FF106568B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F9D8FC7B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7JH0FQE027301; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:00:20 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090819170020.GA86066@thought.org> References: <20090819063810.GA15231@thought.org> <20090819072307.a5f2a541.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20090819174050.9e09a934.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090819174050.9e09a934.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Bill Moran , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: duplex printing with OOo. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:00:29 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 05:40:50PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:23:07 -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > > It works for me, using 3 steps: > > > > 1) Use CUPS instead of lpd > > CUPS brings its own lpd, so in fact you're still using a lpd, > even if it's not the system one's. :-) > It's been years since I tried CUPS; it gives me fits. In short, it has never worked. > > > > 2) Install a PPD for the printer that knows about duplex printing > > It seems that this Brother printer does not come with an "operator > panel" where you can set default modes. As an example, you can > tell a HP laserjet 4000 duplex to be duplex by default, so you > don't need additional configuration. > > For "modern" printers, PPD files are needed to make printer spoolers > and filters aware of what capabilities the printer has. This is > needed if the printer does not conform to standard printer > languages, such as PS or PCL. > My networked 5250 does come with a configuration panel. Simplex or Duplex. That lets me do % lpr single- or double-sided. Regardless, my OpenOffice only prints on one-sided. [?] > > > > 3) Install OOo with CUPS support > > There are some printer settings available in OO, but maybe they > do not cover all the printer's capabilities. > Might help if I knew how to get CUPS working... Anyway, I'll try CUPS again.... thanks, gary > > > > I don't know if it's possible to do through lpd, though. > > With a real printer, it works by default. :-) > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 17:12:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92285106568B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAD18FC51 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:12:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1414245A7; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:12:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7JHCHBY002170; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:12:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:12:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090819191217.cb48d885.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090819170020.GA86066@thought.org> References: <20090819063810.GA15231@thought.org> <20090819072307.a5f2a541.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20090819174050.9e09a934.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090819170020.GA86066@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bill Moran , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: duplex printing with OOo. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:12:19 -0000 On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:00:20 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > It's been years since I tried CUPS; it gives me fits. In > short, it has never worked. With "modern" printers that are not standard compliant, you almost have no way around CUPS. Printers that can do PS don't need any printer filter, and those who talk some standard printer language, such as PCL, are fine with gs drivers, as apsfilter employs them. PCL can, for example, control if the printer should use duplex or not, or from which cassette paper should be taken. This allows you to install several printers, if you wish to use "redirection" to a specific printer according to the features you want. And it's quite easy. Additionally, it'w roth mentioning that (at least office-class) network printers do contain their own printer spooler system that can be remotely controled via FreeBSD. One of the major downsides of CUPS is, in my opinion, that it does not allow you to add a parallel printer that is not connected to the computer at booting time and at the moment you want to make the installtion. Background story: A friend wanted me to install CUPS for his parallel inkjet printer. He told me name and model of the printer, but CUPS didn't let me install it. Sadly, there seem to be various printer filters that can be used on FreeBSD, and you have to select the correct one according to your printer: none, apsfilter, CUPS, hpijs, gimp-print, gutenprint... > My networked 5250 does come with a configuration panel. > Simplex or Duplex. That lets me do % lpr single- > or double-sided. Regardless, my OpenOffice only prints on > one-sided. [?] An idea might be the following: OpenOffice outputs to PCL or PS and defaults to a single page setting that is forced upon the printer and overriding the preferred setting (duplex) from the operator panel. I had this problem with the HP Laserjet 4000 duplex, too. My solution was to explicitely check the filter, a gs command, to take the printer's setting; but that's not CUPS, it's apsfilter, the "more lightweight but limited to quite standard hardware little brother" of CUPS. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 17:39:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8477F106568B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565038FC3F for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0683B1CDBB; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:39:04 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4A8C38B8.3080101@hdk5.net> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:39:04 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sabeeh Baig References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop Install Option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:39:06 -0000 Sabeeh Baig wrote: > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used on > servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop installation, > something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard Desktop"? For those > who need it, it'd be great. > Aloha Manolis Desk Top with XFCE works! Have a look at Manolis Kiagias work at >>> http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com/downloads-page I run it on a HP MIni from a San Disk. +++ -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 18:01:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F67106568C for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B7C8FC62 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7JI1rY1050742; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:01:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:01:52 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Walt Pawley In-Reply-To: <20090818120022.668B710656AC@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20090820025253.M90928@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090818120022.668B710656AC@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-423725794-1250704912=:90928" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:01:56 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-423725794-1250704912=:90928 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:23:29 -0700 Walt Pawley > At 4:44 PM +0200 8/17/09, Heiner Strauß wrote: [..] > >Putting the symbol names in one word helped the linker / loader a lot. > >Live was so easy. > > > >Heiner > > > >C (one word = 32 bit) .NOT. (some word processor software) > > As something of an ancient curmudgeon these days, I've enjoyed > this discussion. As speculation on my part, perhaps the six > character limitation is less a software issue than an early > architecture issue - DEC's PDP-6/10 design used 36-bit words > and packed six characters (clearly from a limited subset of the > then current ASCII) per word, making simple searches very > effective through symbol tables with a simple word level > compare loop. Can I play in the ancient curmudgeonly nostalgia reunion too? > While likely not all that closely related to the issue, I > recall a technique I was introduced to on Control Data systems > called COSY, in which one punched binary coded Hollerith cards > with two characters per column encoded (six bits per > character). Of course, such cards required excellent handling > equipment (which Control Data had) because a stack of cards > punched with 960 holes in each one had lots of opportunity for > hanging chads. First real systems programming job was converting $multinat's data files from NCR 315 format (12-bit 'slabs' holding 2 6-bit alphanum upper-case characters or 3 4-bit BCD numbers, on 7 track tape and some paper tape) to IBM 360 format (8 bit EBCDIC chars or BCD numerics, on 9 track tape), which only took about 4 months, replacing a whole floor & tons of gear. The NCR was also clearly designed around 80-column punch cards; 2 alphas or 3 digits or one 12-bit instruction code per column. The programmer's art was judged (by peers, not management :) on what your best single card 80-slab program could do once booted .. test runs of which involved turning up at the end of The Operator's shift and likely offering some $inducement, after conning one of the punch girls into typing 160 chars of utter gibberish for no apparent reason .. cheers, Ian --0-423725794-1250704912=:90928-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 18:05:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17461065693 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2D18FC55 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7JI5FHZ027918; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:05:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:05:19 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Bill Moran Message-ID: <20090819180519.GA86402@thought.org> References: <20090819063810.GA15231@thought.org> <20090819072307.a5f2a541.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090819072307.a5f2a541.wmoran@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: duplex printing with OOo. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:05:27 -0000 Well, after umch mucking around, the Brother 5250DN works with OO and prints in Duplex only if I turn the dialog to OFF where is say Duplex __ [arrows] Now that that's resolved, I can change the printer web page config back to Simplex and everything will be fine. The King will be in his heaven; God will be in his Counting_House, &c. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 18:17:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619BA106568B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327AF8FC62 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312961CC47; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:17:29 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4A8C41B8.8080306@hdk5.net> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:17:28 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Hamann References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:17:30 -0000 Jeff Hamann wrote: > I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can > somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD. > > Requirements: > > 1) Need to able to wipe out any ms-windows stuff, get installed, boot up > and running within 60 minutes of my time. Download, svn checkouts, etc. > not included. I've tired of spending weekend marathons for "fun" > 2) Normal user will boot up in graphical interface, connect to net, etc. > without anything other than one finger (touchpad?) I'm thinking this is > a normal end-user requirement. > 3) <$200 even possible? > 4) hook up gps units? cronjobs? > > Am I dreaming? > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ############ Aloha, I installed Manolis desktop (DVD) on a sandisc and it works fine from a USB port on an HP 1000 mini netbook. (The netbook has Ubuntu Linux on the internal drive BTW). So I figured it would work with another UNIX. http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com/downloads-page ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 18:28:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708C4106568D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1FA8FC43 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4921B3D11F; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:28:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7JISYPq005486; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:28:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:28:34 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090819202834.50101046.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090819180519.GA86402@thought.org> References: <20090819063810.GA15231@thought.org> <20090819072307.a5f2a541.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20090819180519.GA86402@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bill Moran , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: duplex printing with OOo. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:28:37 -0000 On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:05:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Well, after umch mucking around, the Brother 5250DN works with > OO and prints in Duplex only if I turn the dialog to OFF where is > say > > Duplex __ [arrows] Do I understand this correctly? Duplex works in OO when duplex is set to OFF = no duplex? Oh joy of modern software! This reminds me to a POS program with a very creative error handling, it went like this: switch error case 1: "printer not connected"; case 2: "scanner not connected"; case 4: "keyboard not connected"; case 8: "some other error"; ... default: "file not found"; (without mentioning which file) Maybe OO should add something like "In order to activate a feature, deactivate it". :-) > Now that that's resolved, I can change the printer web page > config back to Simplex and everything will be fine. The King > will be in his heaven; God will be in his Counting_House, &c. I hope both are well, "up and running". :-) By the way, long time that I saw someone write "&c.". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 19:11:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD83106568D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B881B8FC52 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:11:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atomic.dyndns.org (athedsl-4489247.home.otenet.gr [94.71.76.39]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n7JJBKWP029805; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:11:20 +0300 Message-ID: <4A8C4E58.7030103@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:11:20 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Al Plant References: <4A8C41B8.8080306@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: <4A8C41B8.8080306@hdk5.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jeff Hamann Subject: Re: netbooks for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:11:28 -0000 Al Plant wrote: > Jeff Hamann wrote: >> I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can >> somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD. >> >> Requirements: >> >> 1) Need to able to wipe out any ms-windows stuff, get installed, boot >> up and running within 60 minutes of my time. Download, svn checkouts, >> etc. not included. I've tired of spending weekend marathons for "fun" >> 2) Normal user will boot up in graphical interface, connect to net, >> etc. without anything other than one finger (touchpad?) I'm thinking >> this is a normal end-user requirement. >> 3) <$200 even possible? >> 4) hook up gps units? cronjobs? >> >> Am I dreaming? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > ############ > > > Aloha, > > I installed Manolis desktop (DVD) on a sandisc and it works fine from > a USB port on an HP 1000 mini netbook. (The netbook has Ubuntu Linux > on the internal drive BTW). So I figured it would work with another UNIX. > > http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com/downloads-page > > Aspire One (the original one) also works nicely with FreeBSD. If buying a newer model it is best to check it at a shop display or stg, since the hardware has changed and some models may be incompatible (esp. check video card and wireless chipset. The original one is equipped with Intel 950 and an Atheros wireless. Avoid models with the Z520 - Z530 atom cpu. Go for an N270-280 model). The biggest problems with running FreeBSD on such a device (at least in my opinion) are: - Suspend and resume not working. Using powerd though, battery time is quite good - CPU is underpowered so forget compiling ports on it (the occasional small port is OK, larger stuff is a no go). Kernel compilation takes 55 minutes on the One. A quick note on the XFCE DVD: I will be releasing a version based on FreeBSD 8, soon after 8.0 is released. I will also rerun a 7.2 build at about the same time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 20:06:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D870106568C for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073FD8FC15 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4A203296044DF56E; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:06:49 +0100 Message-ID: <4A8C5B59.4080006@onetel.com> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:06:49 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090614) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <634E56EB-F49A-4A25-ABE1-0A23D6181BC1@silvertree.org> <200908191220.44893.lists@jnielsen.net> In-Reply-To: <200908191220.44893.lists@jnielsen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Scott Schappell Subject: Re: Getting rid of X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:06:51 -0000 John Nielsen wrote: > On Wednesday 19 August 2009 12:17:10 Scott Schappell wrote: >> In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I >> installed FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I >> installed X, however, I don't need it or really want it. >> >> How can I pare that out of the system short of doing a complete rebuild? > > Install and run pkg-cutleaves, and let it loop through as many iterations as > it needs. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > To be safe, after you have deleted leaf ports you can install ports-mgmt/portmanager and run 'portmanager -s' redirected to a file then you will have a list of any missing ports. 'portmanager -u' will reinstall them for you. Of course you can probably do the same with portmaster or portupgrade but I've found portmanager does a pretty good job. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 21:02:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518E8106568B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:02:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zafiro17@gmail.com) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CB38FC45 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:02:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF03157139 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:02:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:02:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=kx3mrRxOvgmPdncYhPmcX2LDTK8=; b=mt2lWYOBgIyhhfeqtQQEiXNXKEVZzJ+lDNXm8O6qEFpGklwJx4dK+LU/bYEYGwjWSuxrOfv9BXAbJ4ks1E+4bxVb3w360wgTe50MpYSRwrCGf1x1LqAjhRYjfO3PsLyDENbqVgWovDdh00flIY4i7He/5Mw7nw1IydmfugHh1gs= X-Sasl-enc: Uch4AjpBYkTTHLXsgXifQewy9AmziFJllACSwG9elqRq 1250715723 Received: from koala.therandymon.com (unknown [41.223.248.194]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 142AFA7B6 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:01:27 +0100 From: Randall Wood To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090819210126.GA7938@koala> References: <4A8C41B8.8080306@hdk5.net> <4A8C4E58.7030103@otenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A8C4E58.7030103@otenet.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Subject: Re: netbooks for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:02:05 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:11:20PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Al Plant wrote: > > Jeff Hamann wrote: > >> I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can > >> somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD. Too soon to know, but I've just ordered the Starling, a netbook sold by System76.com. They ship it with Ubuntu, and that means it may well run other *nixes as well. I've got a copy of PC-BSD I'm excited to try to load on it, since I'm not a big fan of Ubuntu in general. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 22:07:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737DC106568E for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172DA8FC55 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:07:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7JM6uW9029866; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:06:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:07:00 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090819220700.GA92618@thought.org> References: <20090819063810.GA15231@thought.org> <20090819072307.a5f2a541.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20090819180519.GA86402@thought.org> <20090819202834.50101046.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090819202834.50101046.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Bill Moran , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: duplex printing with OOo. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:07:10 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 08:28:34PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:05:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Well, after umch mucking around, the Brother 5250DN works with > > OO and prints in Duplex only if I turn the dialog to OFF where is > > say > > > > Duplex __ [arrows] > > Do I understand this correctly? Duplex works in OO when duplex > is set to OFF = no duplex? Oh joy of modern software! that should have been:: Duplex _OFF_ [arrows] > > This reminds me to a POS program with a very creative > error handling, it went like this: > > switch error > case 1: "printer not connected"; > case 2: "scanner not connected"; > case 4: "keyboard not connected"; > case 8: "some other error"; > ... > default: "file not found"; (without mentioning which file) LMOA! man, that's rich... sounds like some seriously lazy hacking to me... . > > Maybe OO should add something like "In order to activate a > feature, deactivate it". :-) > i'm actually starting a ~/.helpOOo file with tricks and tips about the program, mostly swriter. there are some pretty sharp folks over on oooforum.org. luckily:_) > > > > Now that that's resolved, I can change the printer web page > > config back to Simplex and everything will be fine. The King > > will be in his heaven; God will be in his Counting_House, &c. > > I hope both are well, "up and running". :-) > > By the way, long time that I saw someone write "&c.". > not sure if easier to type "etc." or "&c", given the shift-7 == '&' ... but it's different. gary > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 22:29:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CC81065691 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:29:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leidola@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de (fmmailgate04.web.de [217.72.192.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD078FC15 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web.de by fmmailgate04.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 51C5A619D646 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:08:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [77.20.121.234] by freemailng1101.web.de with HTTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:08:32 +0200 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:08:32 +0200 Message-Id: <1482051706@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Olaf Leidinger To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: fm-user Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX18nCZ9m0l61Do4hxZOFn/GjquRg6g8VziytktGF9aXCDBQXY rJ1w1UKWEqJHn+PEQVRiGmYWCgmmvHLgIWWeq79PoUmfhV1iq4= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:29:52 -0000 Dear list, I'd like to install FreeBSD 7.2 on my computer for testing purpuse and eventually remove my Linux installation. Using FreeBSD in VirtualBox works fine, so far. I can't install it on my real hardware, as the installation media won't boot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41639431@N06/3835572003/ The boot menu appears, but as soon as I press a button OR around one second elapses I get a message from the bootstrap loader (have a look at the image). Can't work out which disk we are booting from. And the system seems frozen. This happens with the AMD64 install media. Using i386 install media I get the same message, but the system reboots automatically. Even the PC-BSD install media have the same problem. My hardware: Gigabyte board with AMD 770 chipset, two SATA disk in AHCI mode, an IDE DVD drive (so nothing special). Other bootable optical disks (e.g. using isolinux or grub) work fine. 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Jetzt freischalten unter http://movieflat.web.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 22:33:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9473D106568B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f210.google.com (mail-fx0-f210.google.com [209.85.220.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EB88FC5B for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so3705245fxm.43 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:33:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ag9S5VrNT2cLF/yL6JinUG6PTRrqDfDjHuUm3XtQfIM=; b=XGPAKT+zLF2FqbBAtIFDJO9VPp2+BbNse/UrjHYRD/1rSMYJh4hmZNEuILtkNj0RnP ouoLptbIo9eCGemZ/93AnekvIs71177nKU6fkF93++6hW/GNmdS1JGkt4KNDimCiHQLk zg6sAqf+eJDZ5jQyrTlOY1H32HC1m6SpHNTfA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sYK51npRFkD4VDEUD3i4/FrEEhJcfaVgK/g5ssnZ6AhcuKz9602Ai+UCkzcGhP7eMR wa/SoiFujGHacJLwg4Sf9dfiD4VEIIMTJ94rR0b8B8hvjZE9GTYQl2gkDrKC47ZXEwk1 tH7yGF8IqPsJlzg22opjH7+hdmwAqsYt6DjzQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.15.23 with SMTP id i23mr1902823faa.107.1250721187221; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:33:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1482051706@web.de> References: <1482051706@web.de> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:33:07 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310908191533v37b60483qc30e5053185b3959@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Olaf Leidinger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:33:08 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Olaf Leidinger wrote: > Dear list, > > I'd like to install FreeBSD 7.2 on my computer for testing purpuse and > eventually remove my Linux installation. Using FreeBSD in VirtualBox > works fine, so far. I can't install it on my real hardware, as the > installation media won't boot: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41639431@N06/3835572003/ > > The boot menu appears, but as soon as I press a button OR around one > second elapses I get a message from the bootstrap loader (have a look at > the image). > > Can't work out which disk we are booting from. > > And the system seems frozen. This happens with the AMD64 install media. > Using i386 install media I get the same message, but the system reboots > automatically. Even the PC-BSD install media have the same problem. > > My hardware: > > Gigabyte board with AMD 770 chipset, two SATA disk in AHCI mode, an IDE > DVD drive (so nothing special). > Try disabling AHCI. I had to do that on an Intel board. > Other bootable optical disks (e.g. using isolinux or grub) work fine. > > What might be the problem? > > Thanks a lot for your help, > Hope it does help. :-) -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 23:23:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B57106564A for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f180.google.com (mail-vw0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA648FC43 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws10 with SMTP id 10so4092729vws.7 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:23:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YRfV5w6JY0Gt7pgxin2EJ8Vjdzda+JE7KQ/tjYyM0gU=; b=Yt2TmBJ9We9Z2R+Egt8312q3knzMVg7MckzoC2fI/R8KFjUJyP3MCu3XYidURChxLA WGkZBslFFDcvQhsnCqNR6/Ei7Ze3eAkr+96euMIyQnnov5sucfcG4BzC69PvbQ9qTDaM hIpbN6JVnzI6s1VHQbEpmzGcH3zMfE8uNKiYk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mB61CGReAMQ6StKw3AGQ5t8XxCOe++7ypk4Ft+pbUIyWbqtqOtL2dFLYvkZ/DRFsnu +B5ac/1pTN5/7W3x4Wo2tJyxC4buhmwIQHPmamM2bb45ZGlmmQsUhFNPWepfryI8BOnL x7wVSB8OL2kwVKwosHkf98ttEAOI+S4bKaiz8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.101.144 with SMTP id c16mr6205906vco.79.1250722825785; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:00:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090819210126.GA7938@koala> References: <4A8C41B8.8080306@hdk5.net> <4A8C4E58.7030103@otenet.gr> <20090819210126.GA7938@koala> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:00:25 -0700 Message-ID: <539c60b90908191600q6a9cc65dm532490a2a3946faf@mail.gmail.com> From: Steve Franks To: Randall Wood Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:23:05 -0000 >> Al Plant wrote: >> > Jeff Hamann wrote: >> >> I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can >> >> somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD. I'm displeased with my Lenovo S10. On the upside, all the hardware worked on 7.2 out of the box, after I swapped the internal broadcom wifi for a highpower atheros. The ACPI is a real nightmare on it, however. dmesg is constantly full of acpi barfs, and it hangs on shutdown, and won't suspend, which is pretty much a requirement for a notebook at my house. Tried all the standard lenovo acpi hacks, but no luck. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 00:33:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21AE106568E for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:33:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417808FC57 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7K0XnRu067310; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:33:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n7K0XnUI067307; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:33:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:33:49 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <4A8C4E58.7030103@otenet.gr> Message-ID: References: <4A8C41B8.8080306@hdk5.net> <4A8C4E58.7030103@otenet.gr> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:33:49 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:33:54 -0000 On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > Aspire One (the original one) also works nicely with FreeBSD. If buying > a newer model it is best to check it at a shop display or stg, since the > hardware has changed and some models may be incompatible (esp. check > video card and wireless chipset. The original one is equipped with Intel > 950 and an Atheros wireless. Avoid models with the Z520 - Z530 atom cpu. > Go for an N270-280 model). > The biggest problems with running FreeBSD on such a device (at least in > my opinion) are: > > - Suspend and resume not working. Using powerd though, battery time is > quite good > - CPU is underpowered so forget compiling ports on it (the occasional > small port is OK, larger stuff is a no go). Kernel compilation takes 55 > minutes on the One. There are a lot of variations of the One. I just installed 8.0 on an AOA150. This is the version with the 160G hard drive instead of an SSD, and it's really not bad for building ports. ccache helps with building kernel and world. Neither of the two card readers seems to be supported, unfortunately. One way around hardware problems for the original purpose would be to run FreeBSD in a VM on Windows. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 01:38:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34446106568D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF3C8FC51 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02191CDAA; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:38:26 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4A8CA912.3080201@hdk5.net> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:38:26 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: csh & tcsh history missing after reboot FBSD_8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:38:28 -0000 Aloha, Terminal history gone. I cannot get any recent version of FreeBSD 8.* to keep the csh or tcsh history across a "reboot" in root or usr. It stays after "exit" and a new login however. This happens on several machines that previously ran FreeBSD 7* with no issues. One runs AMD64 and one i386 versions.I can load Manolis Kiagias Desk top version on them and it works fine as do other 7.* versions. I suspect it has to do with PXE ? or something changed in the later versions of 8 Current & BETA 1 and 2 since I have 2 boxes running early versions of 8 CURRENT where everything works fine and the history remains in tact following a reboot. What can I do to get the history to remain in memory across a reboot? Changing the capicity of set history to greater than 100 does not affect it. Thanks.... ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 01:41:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60755106568B for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D77F8FC16 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7K1f55N067517 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:41:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n7K1f5kW067514 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:41:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:41:05 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:41:05 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Subject: Flash10 with 8.0-BETA2 and Firefox 3.5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:41:11 -0000 On 8.0-BETA2 with www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 and www/firefox35 installed. As per the Handbook, a soft link in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins to /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so. nspluginwrapper -a -i runs normally. linprocfs mounted, and nspluginwrapper -l shows /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so. But about:plugins shows nothing but the "default plugin". Is something else necessary? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 01:43:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD6A106568C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABB78FC16 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7K1h1lg067531; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:43:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n7K1h1cH067528; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:43:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:43:01 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Al Plant In-Reply-To: <4A8CA912.3080201@hdk5.net> Message-ID: References: <4A8CA912.3080201@hdk5.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:43:01 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Manolis Kiagias , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: csh & tcsh history missing after reboot FBSD_8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:43:07 -0000 On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Al Plant wrote: > Aloha, > > Terminal history gone. > > I cannot get any recent version of FreeBSD 8.* to keep the csh or tcsh > history across a "reboot" in root or usr. It stays after "exit" and a new > login however. Does the history stick around if you do "shutdown -r now" instead of "reboot"? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 02:23:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6BC1065690 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:23:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C108FC79 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B220D1CCBC; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:23:43 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4A8CB3AF.3070702@hdk5.net> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:23:43 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4A8CA912.3080201@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Manolis Kiagias , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: csh & tcsh history missing after reboot FBSD_8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:23:44 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Al Plant wrote: > >> Aloha, >> >> Terminal history gone. >> >> I cannot get any recent version of FreeBSD 8.* to keep the csh or tcsh >> history across a "reboot" in root or usr. It stays after "exit" and a >> new login however. > > Does the history stick around if you do "shutdown -r now" instead of > "reboot"? > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > Aloha Warren, No. I used shutdown -r now and shutdown -h now and they both blow it away. -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 02:49:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED15B106568B for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:49:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2058FC55 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:49:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7K2nXhK067807; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:49:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n7K2nXJe067804; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:49:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:49:33 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Al Plant In-Reply-To: <4A8CB3AF.3070702@hdk5.net> Message-ID: References: <4A8CA912.3080201@hdk5.net> <4A8CB3AF.3070702@hdk5.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:49:33 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Manolis Kiagias , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: csh & tcsh history missing after reboot FBSD_8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:49:38 -0000 On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Al Plant wrote: > Warren Block wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Al Plant wrote: >>> >>> Terminal history gone. >>> >>> I cannot get any recent version of FreeBSD 8.* to keep the csh or tcsh >>> history across a "reboot" in root or usr. It stays after "exit" and a new >>> login however. >> >> Does the history stick around if you do "shutdown -r now" instead of >> "reboot"? > > No. I used shutdown -r now and shutdown -h now and they both blow it away. My thinking was that reboot is more abrupt than shutdown, and killed the shell without giving it a chance to write out the history. But I've never noticed the history in a csh being written out before a reboot of either type. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 03:27:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC3C106568E for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6D58FC43 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so1800417and.13 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:27:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RM8jf8qfLbFUM6Gs87/2PW9LEmvfPwMNzUkRi7RXIlA=; b=uK2oWJn5jgGgF2jni1/aiPpXXyriBvz37AbGaf1HQ8y8bartPoHHDW5c1UKSqEFhp5 mXpQ1FBTrbzOLcU5x9z99PlrbdHfm9X1y69nF3vhEd+UwoidwummTf6s7LKMciqaZYKe NiyWM89eXJv1h1VomPbERErhl5Kj85lrCbnF0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aREVl1wk+AVN2zDQXSeSpwDUcSz/7tKMeYtTuDu9y3Z/TGOGN988BWTPZFu/1A555B U8BiIN1tHxPqJVv8fAg+4pW8t1EditsUZekli5Iyy77p8wUVoWuZnmYtgnj5QkSgHK/u t9Ov5ErXgcHM42BKnfhl4/q1iWZ9af/rTAz8o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.95.3 with SMTP id x3mr8054935anl.112.1250738860839; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:27:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1482051706@web.de> References: <1482051706@web.de> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:27:40 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Olaf Leidinger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:27:41 -0000 On 8/19/09, Olaf Leidinger wrote: > Dear list, > > I'd like to install FreeBSD 7.2 on my computer for testing purpuse and > eventually remove my Linux installation. Using FreeBSD in VirtualBox > works fine, so far. I can't install it on my real hardware, as the > installation media won't boot: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41639431@N06/3835572003/ > > The boot menu appears, but as soon as I press a button OR around one > second elapses I get a message from the bootstrap loader (have a look at > the image). > > Can't work out which disk we are booting from. > > And the system seems frozen. This happens with the AMD64 install media. > Using i386 install media I get the same message, but the system reboots > automatically. Even the PC-BSD install media have the same problem. > > My hardware: > > Gigabyte board with AMD 770 chipset, two SATA disk in AHCI mode, an IDE > DVD drive (so nothing special). > > Other bootable optical disks (e.g. using isolinux or grub) work fine. > > What might be the problem? > > Thanks a lot for your help, > > O.Leidinger General answer to anyone having trouble booting or working reliably in bsd: In BIOS, disable PnP OS (may not have this exact verbiage, another common one is "Win95 installed") Also in BIOS, disable power management (HDD spindown, system standby, etc) try booting again. If it still fails, go into BIOS and "Load Safe Defaults" or whatever they call it, resetting all tweaks of the BIOS config to defaults and try booting. Some mobos just have quirks that need a BIOS update, try that last. Welcome to BSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 04:12:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730BD106568C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:12:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from atmail-15.bnguk.net (atmail-15.bnguk.net [80.74.253.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D048FC66 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.54.144] helo=melon.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-15.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MdyeE-0002DH-Qa; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:49:10 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6A56BFCA505; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:49:10 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:49:10 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Glen Barber Message-ID: <20090820034910.GA36715@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Glen Barber , Steve Bertrand , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" References: <4A8B82FD.30305@ibctech.ca> <4ad871310908182259j202b1a0au82e15c7259a583c1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908182259j202b1a0au82e15c7259a583c1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p4 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' Cc: Steve Bertrand , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: [OT] Vim mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:12:07 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:59:05AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > > Apologies up front for the off-topic'dness. > > > > I'm thoroughly enjoying my new editor, and swiftly learning and > > experiencing the benefits. As a matter of fact, nearly everywhere I > > type, the common commands come naturally, and I get frustrated that all > > of my software doesn't work like vi does :) > > > > Getting to the point, I'd like to find a vi(m) community, but the list > > subscribe that appears authoritative for vim-users bounces. I despise > > and refuse to belong to web forums. > > > > Given that, where can I go to follow vim discussions, without having to > > bring it up OT here on my favourite list? > > > > Hi, Steve > > Google has a Vim group. I'm not sure if you need a Google account or not. > > And, of course, there's this one: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php I'm a member of that list which is a straightforward mailing list AFAIK (Disclaimer: I do have a google account but I can't remember if that was necessary to sign up). I've found it a very helpful list and I've learnt a lot being subscribed to it despite being a +10yr user of vim. Even Bram Molenaar posts there occasionally. Recommended reading. > > Regards, > > > -- > Glen Barber Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 06:44:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FD9106568C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stark@mapper.nl) Received: from smtp-out1.tiscali.nl (smtp-out1.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6388FC51 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.170.17.27] (helo=mapper.nl) by smtp-out1.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1Me1NV-000143-MF; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:44:05 +0200 Received: from bowser ([192.168.0.1] helo=[0.0.0.0]) by mapper.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Me1NB-0007QD-RG; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:43:45 +0200 Message-ID: <4A8CF09B.7070307@mapper.nl> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:43:39 +0200 From: Mark Stapper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Whitehouse References: <634E56EB-F49A-4A25-ABE1-0A23D6181BC1@silvertree.org> <200908191220.44893.lists@jnielsen.net> <4A8C5B59.4080006@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <4A8C5B59.4080006@onetel.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig97A49B8F997AC73E31047A77" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Scott Schappell Subject: Re: Getting rid of X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:44:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig97A49B8F997AC73E31047A77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris Whitehouse wrote: > John Nielsen wrote: >> On Wednesday 19 August 2009 12:17:10 Scott Schappell wrote: >>> In a parallel sort of thread to the current desktop thread, when I >>> installed FreeBSD 7.2 since I had plenty of disk space and memory I >>> installed X, however, I don't need it or really want it. >>> >>> How can I pare that out of the system short of doing a complete >>> rebuild? >> >> Install and run pkg-cutleaves, and let it loop through as many >> iterations as it needs. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > To be safe, after you have deleted leaf ports you can install > ports-mgmt/portmanager and run 'portmanager -s' redirected to a file > then you will have a list of any missing ports. 'portmanager -u' will > reinstall them for you. Of course you can probably do the same with > portmaster or portupgrade but I've found portmanager does a pretty > good job. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" You probably allready did this, but you might want to add: "WITHOUT_X11=3Dyes" to make.conf This will disable optional X support in certain ports. Greetz, Stark --------------enig97A49B8F997AC73E31047A77 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqM8KEACgkQN9xNqOOVnWAOqwCfWhdUElmb5k+PALu92eMiLBIv erEAn2NRDpKqauBfNrLHZwcXuSBp7Isy =3HBk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig97A49B8F997AC73E31047A77-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 07:20:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DA9106568B for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D1F8FC51 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from current.Sisis.de (cazador.sisis.de [193.31.11.193]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C57184C1149; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:20:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7K7KrnR002684; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:20:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:20:53 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090820072052.GA2669@current.Sisis.de> References: <20090819185947.3920324b.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090819185947.3920324b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jeff Hamann Subject: Re: netbooks for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:20:50 -0000 El día Wednesday, August 19, 2009 a las 06:59:47PM +0200, Polytropon escribió: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:29:12 -0700, Jeff Hamann wrote: > > 1) Need to able to wipe out any ms-windows stuff, get installed, boot > > up and running within 60 minutes of my time. Download, svn checkouts, > > etc. not included. I've tired of spending weekend marathons for "fun" > > There's a good procedure for what you're mentioning. It > takes placec on Asus EEEpc. > > http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC.txt The above URL is for 7.0-RELEASE (or also RELENG_7). For 8-CURRENT use: http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC-8CURRENT.txt HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 07:35:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAD11065690 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:35:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710248FC45 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:35:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 67F761C1A67; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:35:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A8CFCC5.4070303@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:35:33 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4A8A5887.1080304@locolomo.org> <20090818171528.GA35403@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A8BB0E4.2020806@locolomo.org> <20090819160956.GA71105@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090819160956.GA71105@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering files after a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:35:36 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 09:59:32AM +0200, Erik Norgaard wrote: >> Thanks, I couldn't decipher these GEOM_LABEL messages, nice to know that >> I can stop worrying. But for future incidents, the second question remains: >> >> 1. How do I best protect my system from disk errors in case of a crash? > > One word: _backups_! > >> I have a headless system with no spare head to attach and doing >> single-user blind-folded is further complicated by the fact that I'm not >> native to the US keyboard layout, so my top priority is that it boots. > > If you can connect it to another system (that has a monitor) via a serial > null-modem cable and you enable the serial console (see the Handbook), you can > watch the boot process from the other system. > > If you don't have anothe machine closeby, you should get a network-accessible > KVM switch with serial connectors. [maybe something like this: > http://www.knuerr.com/web/en/products/kvm/kvm-switch-dominion-ksx.html] > With such a switch and the serial console you should be able to watch the boot > of the machine remotely. Ok, maybe I didn't make myself clear: I wish to protect my filesystem against corruption in case of a crash such that it will boot. - How can I configure my system to reduce the probability that a crash will cause file system inconsistencies that require single user mode intervention? backups does not answer that question, they are great for recovering lost data but don't prevent the crash. KVM and serial console don't answer the question either. Certainly, it makes it easier to work headless. But neither prevent disk corruption. UPS reduces the likelyhood of a crash in case of a power failure, but that doesn't answer the question either. Asume that a crash will happen, how do I prevent or reduce the risk of a crash causing disk corruption such that the system will boot up nicely again? BR, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 09:29:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75DC106568B for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seba@sebaseidl.com) Received: from mail.sebaseidl.com (dyn-86.105.65.105.tm.upcnet.ro [86.105.65.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC638FC60 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (unknown [192.168.0.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: seba@sebaseidl.com) by mail.sebaseidl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8A15644A; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:13:52 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4A8D13CA.7090504@sebaseidl.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:13:46 +0300 From: Sebastian Seidl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <4A8A5887.1080304@locolomo.org> <20090818171528.GA35403@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A8BB0E4.2020806@locolomo.org> <20090819160956.GA71105@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A8CFCC5.4070303@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <4A8CFCC5.4070303@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering files after a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:29:24 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 09:59:32AM +0200, Erik Norgaard wrote: >>> Thanks, I couldn't decipher these GEOM_LABEL messages, nice to know >>> that I can stop worrying. But for future incidents, the second >>> question remains: >>> >>> 1. How do I best protect my system from disk errors in case of a crash? >> >> One word: _backups_! >> >>> I have a headless system with no spare head to attach and doing >>> single-user blind-folded is further complicated by the fact that I'm >>> not native to the US keyboard layout, so my top priority is that it >>> boots. >> >> If you can connect it to another system (that has a monitor) via a >> serial >> null-modem cable and you enable the serial console (see the >> Handbook), you can >> watch the boot process from the other system. >> >> If you don't have anothe machine closeby, you should get a >> network-accessible >> KVM switch with serial connectors. [maybe something like this: >> http://www.knuerr.com/web/en/products/kvm/kvm-switch-dominion-ksx.html] >> With such a switch and the serial console you should be able to watch >> the boot >> of the machine remotely. > > Ok, maybe I didn't make myself clear: I wish to protect my filesystem > against corruption in case of a crash such that it will boot. > > - How can I configure my system to reduce the probability that a crash > will cause file system inconsistencies that require single user mode > intervention? > > backups does not answer that question, they are great for recovering > lost data but don't prevent the crash. > > KVM and serial console don't answer the question either. Certainly, it > makes it easier to work headless. But neither prevent disk corruption. > > UPS reduces the likelyhood of a crash in case of a power failure, but > that doesn't answer the question either. > > Asume that a crash will happen, how do I prevent or reduce the risk of > a crash causing disk corruption such that the system will boot up > nicely again? > > BR, Erik If u want to reduce the posibility of data corruption I sugest using a smart UPS with management software installed and configured so that before battery power goes out it will do a clean shutdown and also restart the system when AC power is restored (see apcupsd). That is what I'm using. Regards, Sebastian Seidl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 10:52:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F08E1065690 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:52:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@infosec.pl) Received: from v027580.home.net.pl (v027580.home.net.pl [89.161.156.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B91638FC3D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.66?) (ml.freeside@home@127.0.0.1) by m094.home.net.pl with SMTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:26:07 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8D329D.5030205@infosec.pl> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:25:17 +0000 From: Michal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090729) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: switching from one network interface to another without reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:52:47 -0000 Hello, How can I switch from one network interface to another without rebooting my system (7.2R)? Problem description: I've got a laptop with two network interfaces (wired em0 and wireless ath0). Every now and then I have to set up a DSL wireless box which comes with default settings so that I have to start with connecting my laptop via em0. em0 gets IP address from wireless box by DHCP. I log in to web interface and set everything up including WLAN and restart wireless box. At this point I would like to switch to ath0 and start using internet connection via wireless box. I'm taking em0 interface down with "ifconfig em0 down" and unplug the cable. I'm changing /etc/rc.conf entries to: ifconfig_em0="NOAUTO" ifconfig_ath0="WPA DHCP" Then I'm doing "/etc/rc.d/netif restart" and ath0 gets IP address via DHCP and is connected to wireless box (/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf is set up). But whenever I try to ping anything (including wireless box) I get "interface down" message because my system still tries to use em0. What else should I do to tell it that I'm connected to network via ath0 now? Any suggestions are welcome. Michal -- "The quiter you become, the more you can hear." -Ram Dass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 12:05:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8992A106568D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102558FC51 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so3980272bwz.43 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:05:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yTqFQDJcsbVRn6iaFZJAnYwC1qoxfZoL3x8wScNpYws=; b=W7K1oCTvCaqIC5690bzDZzJSV2aqMWfKwjsI3fTwkcMEvHMyBrb5OFFjx32QDiBfV9 HH9/bZJgEGokrHOKwlF75nGbncgmviJJvEuYPqwfwt6QBVvuZx7qjjxUurLO+LY2RS7r HwB31XgU6/UJv5AYfG191WAax2z7n2F0hWsMk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hYqQVseRFADtL/3OyHuJraQAjBJvjlFxjWMhjMzZvsSbuoCbUUdu/Bf4y2+UIF3cMS 0ofMlJgzmfRo6z/nwdLdP6rVKTBXxXrQ5UTDjNfKICye98iRSbo8N4y0QuYIseGNrfXX 7wAlrqs0FOyznzWkBNVUOurInKSZCJkjkIV7o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.68.155 with SMTP id v27mr719730fai.10.1250769927803; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:05:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090818032736.4702f243@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> <4A89D4F9.9020508@toyon.com> <20090818032736.4702f243@gumby.homeunix.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:05:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: RW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:05:29 -0000 On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM, RW wrote: > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:41:12 -0500 > Andrew Gould wrote: > >> STABLE is what it sounds like. > > I don't think it is what it sounds like - STABLE branches are > development branches with stable binary interfaces. It's the security > branches that are intended for production use. > From: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/version-guide/index.html "During the lifetime of each major release, an individual branch may also be termed STABLE. This indicates that the FreeBSD Project believes that the branch is of sufficiently proven quality to be used by a wide range of users. Branches that need further testing before being widely adopted are named CURRENT." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 12:12:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0592106568D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610198FC16 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:12:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7KCCNDD069895; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:12:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n7KCCN8F069892; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:12:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:12:23 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Tijl Coosemans In-Reply-To: <200908201343.07634.tijl@ulyssis.org> Message-ID: References: <200908201343.07634.tijl@ulyssis.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:12:23 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash10 with 8.0-BETA2 and Firefox 3.5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:12:27 -0000 On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Thursday 20 August 2009 03:41:05 Warren Block wrote: >> On 8.0-BETA2 with www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 and www/firefox35 >> installed. >> >> As per the Handbook, a soft link in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins to >> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so. >> nspluginwrapper -a -i runs normally. >> >> linprocfs mounted, and nspluginwrapper -l shows >> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so. >> >> But about:plugins shows nothing but the "default plugin". >> >> Is something else necessary? > > I think you ran nspluginwrapper as root. If you run it as a normal > user it puts the wrapped plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins where Firefox > picks it up. If you run it as root it puts it in > /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins. Firefox 2.x and some other browsers > scan this directory, but newer versions don't for some reason. You have > to create a symlink in /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins/ to the > npwrapper plugin in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ That works! I had first run nspluginwrapper -a -i as normal user, then as root. There is no ~/.mozilla directory for either root or normal user. But this is the first machine I've set up where Firefox3.5 was a fresh install, not an update to a previous version. Should the Handbook instructions be updated? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 12:14:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF87D106564A for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:14:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6954A8FC52 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so7172600ywh.28 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:14:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=lv0tvwh3y9M3H8WF3ZhkEsEMGamYgrvEQAFhqUIIOzk=; b=pos2bfChO+GscxDPS91P3pl/C4E263Qf0xW6UeRJbRYco3bRNJgZYGkAaS3xBFtDDv U+vaqRkWTpO7D3rvPH4pUSMLUrQGmlSbawhIbyf505cfGa5bAFNaeWKPJTINIW/7gRE1 l9i39rc+wvSqftZ9fxej37w1AqGd8kpSBq/mM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ZBzlCUEpqvz9ZZVjxlbIpkM8CRihdNR2zUb3CcVL4RPF4DoJt/yPPAyenLfK/Jszmx 3mKL91rUeYdFhLY3RfUPQhLd+vj5vGnq5kRMUpqIyUpwbspHioDBZrAlyTm5DKh7Jp8J MdbW+Rkf+QH+iYwGPVYaxpoBA60Ps0eCcDHIQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.63.2 with SMTP id l2mr12549550yba.207.1250770474862; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:14:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A8D329D.5030205@infosec.pl> References: <4A8D329D.5030205@infosec.pl> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:14:34 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908200514kcdf55d4r4ed645904f0f7170@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Michal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: switching from one network interface to another without reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:14:35 -0000 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Michal wrote: > Hello, > > How can I switch from one network interface to another without rebooting my > system (7.2R)? > > Problem description: I've got a laptop with two network interfaces (wired > em0 and wireless ath0). Every now and then I have to set up a DSL wireless > box which comes with default settings so that I have to start with > connecting my laptop via em0. > em0 gets IP address from wireless box by DHCP. I log in to web interface > and set everything up including WLAN and restart wireless box. At this point > I would like to switch to ath0 and start using internet connection via > wireless box. > I'm taking em0 interface down with "ifconfig em0 down" and unplug the > cable. > I'm changing /etc/rc.conf entries to: > ifconfig_em0="NOAUTO" > ifconfig_ath0="WPA DHCP" > Then I'm doing "/etc/rc.d/netif restart" and ath0 gets IP address via DHCP > and is connected to wireless box (/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf is set up). > > But whenever I try to ping anything (including wireless box) I get > "interface down" message because my system still tries to use em0. > What else should I do to tell it that I'm connected to network via ath0 > now? > > Any suggestions are welcome. > Michal > -- > "The quiter you become, the more you can hear." -Ram Dass > > > /etc/rc.d/netif stop em0 /etc/rc.d/netif start ath0 -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 12:15:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46F6106568B for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:15:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from mailrelay003.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay003.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B8D8FC60 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:15:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvIEALPSjEpQyBnl/2dsb2JhbACBU9Q4hBoFgU4 Received: from 229.25-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.kotnet.org) ([80.200.25.229]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2009 13:45:38 +0200 Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7KBh7Yi003244; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:43:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:43:06 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908201343.07634.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Flash10 with 8.0-BETA2 and Firefox 3.5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:15:15 -0000 On Thursday 20 August 2009 03:41:05 Warren Block wrote: > On 8.0-BETA2 with www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 and www/firefox35 > installed. > > As per the Handbook, a soft link in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins to > /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so. > nspluginwrapper -a -i runs normally. > > linprocfs mounted, and nspluginwrapper -l shows > /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so. > > But about:plugins shows nothing but the "default plugin". > > Is something else necessary? I think you ran nspluginwrapper as root. If you run it as a normal user it puts the wrapped plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins where Firefox picks it up. If you run it as root it puts it in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins. Firefox 2.x and some other browsers scan this directory, but newer versions don't for some reason. You have to create a symlink in /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins/ to the npwrapper plugin in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 12:34:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0851065672 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pcc@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 348368FC65 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8083 invoked by uid 0); 20 Aug 2009 12:08:16 -0000 Received: from 79.204.98.166 by www148.gmx.net with HTTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:08:15 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:08:15 +0200 From: "Peter Cornelius" Message-ID: <20090820120815.122780@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #491680 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 5 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/jJqxPmpPjNjENTsWZGw2DP3rJ/EVxPBi2NtuyAX 3WrJgKJPgRQi8Uq06WfMJpwoQCANUL/5lexg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: +HjHDb5Ia2AodMS2MHQyIwU6OWhhakdc X-FuHaFi: 0.53 Cc: Subject: Lock order reversals on RELENG_8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:34:59 -0000 Hi, Are these lock order reversals reported any reason for preoccupation and/or should I report elsewhere? The kernel I just built does not boot at all, so I donŽt know whether these are a closed issue already. IŽm off for a couple of days and will retry then. Thanks & regards, Peter. --- Note: Kernels are GENERIC w/o i386/i486 options, Plus from no 4 onwards with VIMAGE and w/o SCTP option, All fs encrypted with geli except /. --- Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #3: Sun Aug 16 10:28:08 UTC 2009 Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: root@netserv.ka.cornelius:/usr/Obj-RELENG_8/usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/NETSERV Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: CPU: Intel Pentium III (1004.52-MHz 686-class CPU) Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: Features=0x383fbff Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: real memory = 1610612736 (1536 MB) Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: avail memory = 1559375872 (1487 MB) Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: ACPI APIC Table: Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 1 core(s) Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 3 Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 0 (...) Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: 1st 0xd8d413f0 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:2559 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc5782000 dirhash (dirhash) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:285 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c73804,e782c75c,c08c0d25,c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,c4d2be90,c4d2f228,e782c7b8,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c7675b,c5782000,c0c97efa,c4d2f228,c0c97b8a,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c5782000,9,c0c97b8a,11d,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: _sx_xlock(c5782000,0,c0c97b8a,11d,c58d9ae0,...) at _sx_xlock+0x85 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_acquire(d8d41390,da0ab800,200,da0ab818,e782c888,...) at ufsdirhash_acquire+0x35 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_add(c58d9ae0,e782c8d0,818,e782c874,e782c878,...) at ufsdirhash_add+0x13 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_direnter(c596953c,c596696c,e782c8d0,e782cbd0,0,...) at ufs_direnter+0x729 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_makeinode(e782cbd0,0,e782cabc,e782ca18,c0bbc895,...) at Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_makeinode+0x508 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_create(e782cabc,e782cad4,0,0,e782cba4,...) at ufs_create+0x30 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: VOP_CREATE_APV(c0d77740,e782cabc,e782cbd0,e782ca54,0,...) at VOP_CREATE_APV+0xa5 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: vn_open_cred(e782cba4,e782cc5c,1a4,0,c51d2b00,...) at vn_open_cred+0x215 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: vn_open(e782cba4,e782cc5c,1a4,c51fadc8,c0c98f76,...) at vn_open+0x3b Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: kern_openat(c5232000,ffffff9c,28412180,0,a02,...) at kern_openat+0x11f Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: kern_open(c5232000,28412180,0,a01,1a4,...) at kern_open+0x35 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: open(c5232000,e782ccf8,c,c0c77024,c0d55f6c,...) at open+0x30 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: syscall(e782cd38) at syscall+0x2a3 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20 Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: --- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF32, open), eip = 0x28335923, esp = 0xbfbfe7bc, ebp = 0xbfbfe7e8 --- (...) Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc6df37ac ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_lookup.c:497 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xd8debf40 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:6177 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: 3rd 0xc6e3f164 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c73804,e78b33cc,c08c0d25,c08b1a0b,c0c76774,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08b1a0b,c0c76774,c4d2be90,c4d2f1c0,e78b3428,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c76774,c6e3f164,c0c690c7,c4d2f1c0,c0c7db33,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c6e3f164,9,c0c7db33,823,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c6e3f164,80100,c6e3f180,0,0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_lock(e78b3538,c08c0acb,c0c7d00b,80100,c6e3f10c,...) at ffs_lock+0x8a Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d77740,e78b3538,c549d0a4,c0d90140,c6e3f10c,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c6e3f10c,80100,c0c7db33,823,4,...) at _vn_lock+0x5e Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: vget(c6e3f10c,80100,c549d000,50,0,...) at vget+0xb9 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: vfs_hash_get(c5488508,44371d7,80000,c549d000,e78b3694,...) at vfs_hash_get+0xe6 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_vgetf(c5488508,44371d7,80000,e78b3694,1,...) at ffs_vgetf+0x49 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: softdep_sync_metadata(c6df3754,0,c0c977fa,146,0,...) at softdep_sync_metadata+0x5ba Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_syncvnode(c6df3754,1,c0c6ec41,c0c686fc,3,...) at ffs_syncvnode+0x3e2 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_truncate(c6df3754,200,0,880,c5623680,...) at ffs_truncate+0x66a Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ufs_direnter(c6df3754,c6e3f10c,e78b3a1c,e78b3c00,d8db4e30,...) at ufs_direnter+0x8f6 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ufs_mkdir(e78b3c28,e78b3c3c,0,0,e78b3b6c,...) at ufs_mkdir+0x8a7 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: VOP_MKDIR_APV(c0d77740,e78b3c28,e78b3c00,e78b3b6c,0,...) at VOP_MKDIR_APV+0xa5 Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: kern_mkdirat(c549d000,ffffff9c,bfbfeb16,0,1ff,...) at kern_mkdirat+0x22b Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: kern_mkdir(c549d000,bfbfeb16,0,1ff,e78b3d2c,...) at kern_mkdir+0x2e Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: mkdir(c549d000,e78b3cf8,8,c,c0d56dc0,...) at mkdir+0x29 Aug 16 14:16:05 netserv kernel: syscall(e78b3d38) at syscall+0x2a3 Aug 16 14:16:05 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20 Aug 16 14:16:05 netserv kernel: --- syscall (136, FreeBSD ELF32, mkdir), eip = 0x281698e3, esp = 0xbfbfe86c, ebp = 0xbfbfe938 --- (...) Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc901dce8 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054 Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc9dfa7ac devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083 Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c73804,e78ad814,c08c0d25,c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,c4d2f1c0,c4d2f0f0,e78ad870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c7675b,c9dfa7ac,c0c6529f,c4d2f0f0,c0c7db33,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c9dfa7ac,9,c0c7db33,823,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c9dfa7ac,80100,c9dfa7c8,0,0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7 Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e78ad978,c08c0acb,c0c654e2,80100,c9dfa754,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62 Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d52ae0,e78ad978,c549d524,c0d90140,c9dfa754,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5 Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c9dfa754,80100,c0c7db33,823,8,...) at _vn_lock+0x5e Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: vget(c9dfa754,80100,c549d480,15e,c0c653fb,...) at vget+0xb9 Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c5ce4c00,c51ca78c,e78ada10,9d,c0f31578,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102 Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c51ca78c,80000,e78adc30,42c,0,...) at devfs_root+0x4a Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c549d480,0,c5ccea80,c5ccea80,bfbfdac9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2 Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: nmount(c549d480,e78adcf8,c,c,c0d58838,...) at nmount+0x75 Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: syscall(e78add38) at syscall+0x2a3 Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20 Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount), eip = 0x280e876b, esp = 0xbfbfda9c, ebp = 0xbfbfdff8 --- (...) Aug 18 13:10:29 netserv kernel: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #4: Mon Aug 17 13:46:34 UTC 2009 (...) Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc561a270 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc561a058 devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e7876814,c08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1f158,c4d1f088,e7876870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c561a058,c0c1176c,c4d1f088,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c561a058,9,c0c2a1f8,823,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c561a058,80100,c561a074,0,0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e7876978,c08be04b,c0c119af,80100,c561a000,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0cfd660,e7876978,c52059a4,c0d38160,c561a000,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561a000,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,8,...) at _vn_lock+0x5e Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vget(c561a000,80100,c5205900,15e,c0c118c8,...) at vget+0xb9 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c55e2500,c519aa10,e7876a10,9d,c0edf078,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c519aa10,80000,e7876c30,42c,0,...) at devfs_root+0x4a Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c5205900,0,c5226180,c5226180,bfbfd7f9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: nmount(c5205900,e7876cf8,c,c,c0d033b8,...) at nmount+0x75 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: syscall(e7876d38) at syscall+0x2a3 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount), eip = 0x280e876b, esp = 0xbfbfd7cc, ebp = 0xbfbfdd28 --- (...) Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc561a270 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc561a058 devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e7876814,c08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1f158,c4d1f088,e7876870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c561a058,c0c1176c,c4d1f088,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c561a058,9,c0c2a1f8,823,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c561a058,80100,c561a074,0,0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e7876978,c08be04b,c0c119af,80100,c561a000,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0cfd660,e7876978,c52059a4,c0d38160,c561a000,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561a000,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,8,...) at _vn_lock+0x5e Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vget(c561a000,80100,c5205900,15e,c0c118c8,...) at vget+0xb9 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c55e2500,c519aa10,e7876a10,9d,c0edf078,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c519aa10,80000,e7876c30,42c,0,...) at devfs_root+0x4a Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c5205900,0,c5226180,c5226180,bfbfd7f9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: nmount(c5205900,e7876cf8,c,c,c0d033b8,...) at nmount+0x75 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: syscall(e7876d38) at syscall+0x2a3 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20 Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount), eip = 0x280e876b, esp = 0xbfbfd7cc, ebp = 0xbfbfdd28 --- (...) Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: 1st 0xd8d299f0 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:2559 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc518e200 dirhash (dirhash) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:285 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e7894a74,c08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1bfc8,c4d1f1c0,e7894ad0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c518e200,c0c42b70,c4d1f1c0,c0c42800,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c518e200,9,c0c42800,11d,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: _sx_xlock(c518e200,0,c0c42800,11d,d9c2b36c,...) at _sx_xlock+0x85 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_acquire(0,e,c51b3000,d8d29990,d9c2b36c,...) at ufsdirhash_acquire+0x35 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_remove(c57050e8,d9c2b36c,36c,e7894b60,e7894b5c,...) at ufsdirhash_remove+0x14 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufs_dirremove(c56f410c,c56d8a6c,500800c,0,c56f410c,...) at ufs_dirremove+0xe5 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufs_remove(e7894c34,0,0,0,c571f53c,...) at Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufs_remove+0x6e Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: VOP_REMOVE_APV(c0d1f760,e7894c34,c571f53c,e7894c0c,80f5200,...) at Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: VOP_REMOVE_APV+0xa5 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: kern_unlinkat(c570eb40,ffffff9c,80f5200,0,e7894c80,...) at kern_unlinkat+0x181 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: kern_unlink(c570eb40,80f5200,0,e7894d2c,c0b5b453,...) at kern_unlink+0x27 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: unlink(c570eb40,e7894cf8,4,c0c3d0bc,c0d00b78,...) at unlink+0x22 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: syscall(e7894d38) at syscall+0x2a3 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20 Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: --- syscall (10, FreeBSD ELF32, unlink), eip = 0x283936cf, esp = 0xbfbfc70c, ebp = 0xbfbfc738 --- (...) Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc5ab0164 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xd8e8e8a0 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:6177 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: 3rd 0xc6e8a6a0 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e78fd3cc,c08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22dff,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22dff,c4d1bfc8,c4d1f158,e78fd428,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22dff,c6e8a6a0,c0c15598,c4d1f158,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c6e8a6a0,9,c0c2a1f8,823,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c6e8a6a0,80100,c6e8a6bc,0,0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_lock(e78fd538,c08be04b,c0c296d0,80100,c6e8a648,...) at ffs_lock+0x8a Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d1f760,e78fd538,c5a36764,c0d38160,c6e8a648,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c6e8a648,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,4,...) at _vn_lock+0x5e Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: vget(c6e8a648,80100,c5a366c0,50,0,...) at vget+0xb9 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: vfs_hash_get(c5459284,9701aa,80000,c5a366c0,e78fd694,...) at vfs_hash_get+0xe6 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_vgetf(c5459284,9701aa,80000,e78fd694,1,...) at ffs_vgetf+0x49 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: softdep_sync_metadata(c5ab010c,0,c0c42470,146,0,...) at softdep_sync_metadata+0x5ba Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_syncvnode(c5ab010c,1,c0c1b267,c0c14bcd,3,...) at ffs_syncvnode+0x3e2 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_truncate(c5ab010c,200,0,880,c56b3100,...) at ffs_truncate+0x66a Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ufs_direnter(c5ab010c,c6e8a648,e78fda1c,e78fdc00,d8f0c300,...) at ufs_direnter+0x8f6 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ufs_mkdir(e78fdc28,e78fdc3c,0,0,e78fdb6c,...) at ufs_mkdir+0x8a7 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: VOP_MKDIR_APV(c0d1f760,e78fdc28,e78fdc00,e78fdb6c,0,...) at VOP_MKDIR_APV+0xa5 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: kern_mkdirat(c5a366c0,ffffff9c,bfbfe9fd,0,1ff,...) at kern_mkdirat+0x22b Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: kern_mkdir(c5a366c0,bfbfe9fd,0,1ff,e78fdd2c,...) at kern_mkdir+0x2e Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: mkdir(c5a366c0,e78fdcf8,8,c0c23750,c0d01940,...) at mkdir+0x29 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: syscall(e78fdd38) at syscall+0x2a3 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20 Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: --- syscall (136, FreeBSD ELF32, mkdir), eip = 0x281698e3, esp = 0xbfbfe78c, ebp = 0xbfbfe858 --- (...) Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc0d70d8c allprison (allprison) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/kern_jail.c:2449 Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc561ebdc ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2188 Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e5295ab4,c08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d18138,c4d1f158,e5295b10,...) at Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace+0x29 Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c561ebdc,c0c15598,c4d1f158,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c561ebdc,9,c0c2a1f8,88c,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c561ebdc,80100,c561ebf8,0,0,...) at Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args+0x7a7 Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: ffs_lock(e5295c20,c4d18138,c0c2a1f8,80100,c561eb84,...) at ffs_lock+0x8a Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d1f760,e5295c20,c086d663,c0d38160,c561eb84,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5 Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561eb84,80100,c0c2a1f8,88c,0,...) at _vn_lock+0x5e Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: vrele(c561eb84,c0c182d5,998,991,c0d05320,...) at vrele+0x137 Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: prison_deref(e5295cd4,c08b76bb,c4f48000,1,c0c21720,...) at prison_deref+0x4c8 Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: prison_complete(c4f48000,1,c0c21720,54,c4ea515c,...) at prison_complete+0x10 Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: taskqueue_run(c4ea5140,c4ea515c,0,c0c1260e,0,...) at taskqueue_run+0x10b Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: taskqueue_thread_loop(c0d84f68,e5295d38,c0c17e22,33e,c0d70440,...) at taskqueue_thread_loop+0x68 Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: fork_exit(c08b77b0,c0d84f68,e5295d38) at fork_exit+0xb8 Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8 Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: --- trap 0, eip = 0, esp = 0xe5295d70, ebp = 0 --- (...) (... failing to boot into recently-built kernel ...) (...) Aug 20 11:07:44 netserv kernel: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #4: Mon Aug 17 13:46:34 UTC 2009 (...) Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc56177ac ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054 Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc5617594 devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083 Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e77f5814,c08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1f158,c4d1f088,e77f5870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c5617594,c0c1176c,c4d1f088,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c5617594,9,c0c2a1f8,823,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c5617594,80100,c56175b0,0,0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7 Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e77f5978,c08be04b,c0c119af,80100,c561753c,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62 Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0cfd660,e77f5978,c51d99a4,c0d38160,c561753c,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5 Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561753c,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,8,...) at _vn_lock+0x5e Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: vget(c561753c,80100,c51d9900,15e,c0c118c8,...) at vget+0xb9 Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c5225680,c545a000,e77f5a10,9d,c0edf078,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102 Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c545a000,80000,e77f5c30,42c,0,...) at devfs_root+0x4a Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c51d9900,0,c55f0480,c55f0480,bfbfd7f9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2 Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: nmount(c51d9900,e77f5cf8,c,c,c0d033b8,...) at nmount+0x75 Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: syscall(e77f5d38) at syscall+0x2a3 Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20 Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount), eip = 0x280e876b, esp = 0xbfbfd7cc, ebp = 0xbfbfdd28 --- (...) -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 12:44:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DFB106568C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C94A8FC7E for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n7KCZ40B087237; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:35:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7KCa3Rp059223; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:36:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7KCa3Mh059222; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:36:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:36:03 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20090820123603.GB1239@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200908201343.07634.tijl@ulyssis.org> <20090820123041.GA1239@gothic.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090820123041.GA1239@gothic.blackend.org> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash10 with 8.0-BETA2 and Firefox 3.5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:44:29 -0000 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 02:30:41PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 06:12:23AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > > > > > On Thursday 20 August 2009 03:41:05 Warren Block wrote: > > >> On 8.0-BETA2 with www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 and www/firefox35 > > >> installed. > > >> > > >> As per the Handbook, a soft link in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins to > > >> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so. > > >> nspluginwrapper -a -i runs normally. > > >> > > >> linprocfs mounted, and nspluginwrapper -l shows > > >> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so. > > >> > > >> But about:plugins shows nothing but the "default plugin". > > >> > > >> Is something else necessary? > > > > > > I think you ran nspluginwrapper as root. If you run it as a normal > > > user it puts the wrapped plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins where Firefox > > > picks it up. If you run it as root it puts it in > > > /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins. Firefox 2.x and some other browsers > > > scan this directory, but newer versions don't for some reason. You have > > > to create a symlink in /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins/ to the > > > npwrapper plugin in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ > > > > That works! > > > > I had first run nspluginwrapper -a -i as normal user, then as root. > > > > The Handbook says: > > -- > Once the right Flash port, according to the FreeBSD version you run, is > installed, the plugin must be installed by each user with > nspluginwrapper: > > % nspluginwrapper -v -a -i > -- > > So you should not run it as root. > > > There is no ~/.mozilla directory for either root or normal user. But > > this is the first machine I've set up where Firefox3.5 was a fresh > > install, not an update to a previous version. > > > > Here what I did: > > % rm -rf .mozilla > % nspluginwrapper -l > > % nspluginwrapper -a -i > % nspluginwrapper -l > /home/marc/.mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so > Original plugin: /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so > Wrapper version string: 1.2.2 > > So even if a $HOME/.mozilla does not exist, it'll be created by > nspluginwrapper. > I forgot to say that /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins/ just contains libnullplugin.so here. > > Should the Handbook instructions be updated? > > > > I don't think it's needed here. > > -- > Marc -- Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 12:44:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FC610656A4 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B5B8FC78 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n7KCTrQN087122; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:29:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7KCUq4Z059179; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:30:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7KCUfwd059169; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:30:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:30:41 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20090820123041.GA1239@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200908201343.07634.tijl@ulyssis.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash10 with 8.0-BETA2 and Firefox 3.5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:44:31 -0000 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 06:12:23AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > > > On Thursday 20 August 2009 03:41:05 Warren Block wrote: > >> On 8.0-BETA2 with www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 and www/firefox35 > >> installed. > >> > >> As per the Handbook, a soft link in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins to > >> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so. > >> nspluginwrapper -a -i runs normally. > >> > >> linprocfs mounted, and nspluginwrapper -l shows > >> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so. > >> > >> But about:plugins shows nothing but the "default plugin". > >> > >> Is something else necessary? > > > > I think you ran nspluginwrapper as root. If you run it as a normal > > user it puts the wrapped plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins where Firefox > > picks it up. If you run it as root it puts it in > > /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins. Firefox 2.x and some other browsers > > scan this directory, but newer versions don't for some reason. You have > > to create a symlink in /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins/ to the > > npwrapper plugin in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ > > That works! > > I had first run nspluginwrapper -a -i as normal user, then as root. > The Handbook says: -- Once the right Flash port, according to the FreeBSD version you run, is installed, the plugin must be installed by each user with nspluginwrapper: % nspluginwrapper -v -a -i -- So you should not run it as root. > There is no ~/.mozilla directory for either root or normal user. But > this is the first machine I've set up where Firefox3.5 was a fresh > install, not an update to a previous version. > Here what I did: % rm -rf .mozilla % nspluginwrapper -l % nspluginwrapper -a -i % nspluginwrapper -l /home/marc/.mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Original plugin: /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so Wrapper version string: 1.2.2 So even if a $HOME/.mozilla does not exist, it'll be created by nspluginwrapper. > Should the Handbook instructions be updated? > I don't think it's needed here. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 12:51:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419F11065693 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:51:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@infosec.pl) Received: from v027580.home.net.pl (v027580.home.net.pl [89.161.156.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCF758FC6E for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.66?) (ml.freeside@home@127.0.0.1) by m094.home.net.pl with SMTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:51:05 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8D549B.6070101@infosec.pl> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:50:19 +0000 From: Michal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090729) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4A8D329D.5030205@infosec.pl> <6201873e0908200514kcdf55d4r4ed645904f0f7170@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0908200514kcdf55d4r4ed645904f0f7170@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: switching from one network interface to another without reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:51:03 -0000 Adam Vande More wrote: > /etc/rc.d/netif stop em0 > /etc/rc.d/netif start ath0 > Works like a charm, thank you so much. Michal -- "Attacks always get better; they never get worse." -NSA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 13:02:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30078106568C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:02:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F368FC43 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:02:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7KD2SCd070080; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:02:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n7KD2Sb8070077; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:02:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:02:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Marc Fonvieille In-Reply-To: <20090820123041.GA1239@gothic.blackend.org> Message-ID: References: <200908201343.07634.tijl@ulyssis.org> <20090820123041.GA1239@gothic.blackend.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:02:28 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash10 with 8.0-BETA2 and Firefox 3.5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:02:33 -0000 On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 06:12:23AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >> On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Tijl Coosemans wrote: >> >>> On Thursday 20 August 2009 03:41:05 Warren Block wrote: >>>> On 8.0-BETA2 with www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 and www/firefox35 >>>> installed. >>>> >>>> As per the Handbook, a soft link in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins to >>>> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so. >>>> nspluginwrapper -a -i runs normally. >>>> >>>> linprocfs mounted, and nspluginwrapper -l shows >>>> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so. >>>> >>>> But about:plugins shows nothing but the "default plugin". >>>> >>>> Is something else necessary? >>> >>> I think you ran nspluginwrapper as root. If you run it as a normal >>> user it puts the wrapped plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins where Firefox >>> picks it up. If you run it as root it puts it in >>> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins. Firefox 2.x and some other browsers >>> scan this directory, but newer versions don't for some reason. You have >>> to create a symlink in /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins/ to the >>> npwrapper plugin in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ >> >> That works! >> >> I had first run nspluginwrapper -a -i as normal user, then as root. >> > > The Handbook says: > > -- > Once the right Flash port, according to the FreeBSD version you run, is > installed, the plugin must be installed by each user with > nspluginwrapper: > > % nspluginwrapper -v -a -i > -- > > So you should not run it as root. Let me clarify: I did not run it as root until after it didn't work as a normal user. Or at least I thought I didn't. Now, having removed the link in /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins and making sure that npwrapper.libflashplayer.so was not present in /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins, nspluginwrapper and Flash as a normal user works. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 13:05:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CA3106568B for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:05:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf08.insightbb.com (mxsf08.insightbb.com [74.128.0.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858C98FC57 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:05:43 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,414,1246852800"; d="scan'208";a="743454536" Received: from unknown (HELO mxip09.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf08.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2009 08:37:06 -0400 Received: from 208-46-39-11.dia.static.qwest.net (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([208.46.39.11]) by mxip09.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2009 08:37:06 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:36:54 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.0 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.0; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200908200836.55115.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Cc: Subject: desktop effects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:05:44 -0000 I'm running freebsd 7.2p3, kde4.3.0, X7.4_2, and using the radeon X driver. I get an error dialog when I enable desktop effects. Can anyone enable desktop effects? I'm wondering if it requires support in the X driver and perhaps the ati drivers don't support it yet. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 13:20:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86EC106568C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:20:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.bzerk.org [82.95.223.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EB68FC16 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7KCkgET051914; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:46:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n7KCkgsQ051913; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:46:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:46:42 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: Sebastian Seidl Message-ID: <20090820124641.GA51846@ei.bzerk.org> References: <4A8A5887.1080304@locolomo.org> <20090818171528.GA35403@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A8BB0E4.2020806@locolomo.org> <20090819160956.GA71105@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A8CFCC5.4070303@locolomo.org> <4A8D13CA.7090504@sebaseidl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A8D13CA.7090504@sebaseidl.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_25 autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:46:46 +0200 (CEST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering files after a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:20:18 -0000 > Erik Norgaard wrote: > > > >Ok, maybe I didn't make myself clear: I wish to protect my filesystem > >against corruption in case of a crash such that it will boot. > > > >- How can I configure my system to reduce the probability that a crash > >will cause file system inconsistencies that require single user mode > >intervention? > > > >backups does not answer that question, they are great for recovering > >lost data but don't prevent the crash. > > > >KVM and serial console don't answer the question either. Certainly, it > >makes it easier to work headless. But neither prevent disk corruption. > > > >UPS reduces the likelyhood of a crash in case of a power failure, but > >that doesn't answer the question either. > > > >Asume that a crash will happen, how do I prevent or reduce the risk of > >a crash causing disk corruption such that the system will boot up > >nicely again? You could mount all system partitions ro (using memory fs for /tmp and /var) Setting the "noauto" option for your data partitions in fstab will allmost guarantee the system to boot to multiuser after a crash. You can then mount these partitions from a script in for example rc.local. If these mounts fail, the system will then not drop to single user mode. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 13:51:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B623A106568D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737EF8FC66 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so6553222yxe.3 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:51:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FhTLJ7dLAT7RCMjgGr38jd6wvS2PVAL81OgMQbuTPHY=; b=fX9ifsQ3T5VPdn/lrF5SiMfdUMG/HDs7kLcYAqoe35tZHPIHqgxnU1kbyLLZm9CaY1 VhNp3uM7QIfqyV3qpR77Rl/uPbZZ3nZaSnGRjc8VFN6UitT9nFK0G1/YnQnCzSfPEbvF 0DS9cYBEsCQdqKdf4xPpuLSN/30ara5dewtqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=iAMiPwdONrU9XolONZ1Ws88Q2Xa5gSgUXlEacPuTqGBGG63uWITt3tU6ko4l9TDKqq 5yufF+3Zg8Cd98YrsoDEAsCRbs2sUN1rgeZMn6PjHWV7c1L5aZ6dkkpmMDi1vS29dtZ3 Nhugl9Y2rW9kSdDdDMBbpd9o1iWqv5MI31Q2s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.46.4 with SMTP id t4mr12774582ybt.293.1250776276894; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:51:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200908200836.55115.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> References: <200908200836.55115.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:51:16 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908200651s3b570b91g67c96dbb0527169a@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Steven Friedrich Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: desktop effects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:51:17 -0000 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Steven Friedrich wrote: > I'm running freebsd 7.2p3, kde4.3.0, X7.4_2, and using the radeon X driver. > > I get an error dialog when I enable desktop effects. > > Can anyone enable desktop effects? I'm wondering if it requires support in > the X driver and perhaps the ati drivers don't support it yet. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > You need to enable the appropriate settings within xorg.conf. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 15:13:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4F9106568C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hg@queue.to) Received: from pickle.queue.to (pickle.queue.to [71.180.69.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12798FC62 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 34609 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2009 10:46:34 -0400 Received: from cally.queue.to (172.16.0.6) by pickle.queue.to with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2009 10:46:34 -0400 Message-ID: <4A8D61C6.3040408@queue.to> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:46:30 -0400 From: Howard Goldstein User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090819) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ajtiM References: <200908142121.51522.lumiwa@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200908142121.51522.lumiwa@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5BBFB89B1DB88A7C7081A5A6" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox 2.0.0.20_9,1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:13:16 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5BBFB89B1DB88A7C7081A5A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ajtiM wrote: > firefox 2.0.0.20_9,1 > Paul Schmehl pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com=20 > Thu Aug 13 02:16:24 UTC 2009=20 > Previous message: firefox 2.0.0.20_9,1=20 > Next message: firefox 2.0.0.20_9,1=20 > Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]=20 > --On August 12, 2009 8:18:55 PM -0500 ajtiM wrote= : >=20 >> Hi! >> When I run >> >> >> ; >> portaudit -a >> Affected package: firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 >> Type of problem: mozilla -- multiple vulnerabilities. >> Reference: >> >> >> but when I check above site I found: >> Affects: >> firefox <3.*,1 >> firefox >3.*,1 <3.0.13,1 >> firefox >3.5.*,1 <3.5.2,1 >> linux-firefox <3.*,1 >> linux-firefox >3.*,1 <3.0.13,1 >> linux-firefox >3.5.*,1 <3.5.2,1 >> linux-firefox-devel <3.5.2 >> seamonkey >0 >> linux-seamonkey >0 >> linux-seamonkey-devel >0 >> thunderbird >0 >> linux-thunderbird >0 >> >> Are problem with firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 or not, please. >=20 > That port should probably be removed. It's ancient. >=20 > Use /usr/ports/www/firefox3 or /usr/ports/www/firefox3.5 It's like the cat dragged in firefox2 despite use of 3.5 for actual browsing :( Is there a good way to resolve these dependencies through firefox3 or 3.5 short of ditching gnome? cally:/usr/home/hg$ pkg_info -R firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 Information for firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1: Required by: epiphany-2.26.3_3 epiphany-extensions-2.26.1_1 galeon-2.0.7_1 gdesklets-0.35.4_6 gnome2-2.26.3 gnome2-fifth-toe-2.26.3 gnome2-power-tools-2.26.3 py26-gnome-extras-2.25.3_3 seahorse-plugins-2.26.2_2 straw-0.27_4 yelp-2.26.0_1 --------------enig5BBFB89B1DB88A7C7081A5A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKjWHKdYVFuiUUgywRAnQ/AKCIWLb+O7u44vnUZ2X4MCx2+pEIHgCg6MfY rDHIluJtRH++cvmtSNHbQvw= =rfOI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5BBFB89B1DB88A7C7081A5A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 15:28:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CB2106568C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C495C8FC57 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18289 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2009 15:28:31 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Aug 2009 15:28:30 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B71315082B; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:28:29 -0400 (EDT) To: Howard Goldstein References: <200908142121.51522.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4A8D61C6.3040408@queue.to> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:28:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4A8D61C6.3040408@queue.to> (Howard Goldstein's message of "Thu\, 20 Aug 2009 10\:46\:30 -0400") Message-ID: <44ws4yy06a.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: ajtiM , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firefox 2.0.0.20_9,1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:28:32 -0000 Howard Goldstein writes: > It's like the cat dragged in firefox2 despite use of 3.5 for actual > browsing :( Is there a good way to resolve these dependencies through > firefox3 or 3.5 short of ditching gnome? Yeah, it's really from the gecko handling. According to Mk/bsd.gecko.mk, I think you could add something like the following to make.conf to do what you need: USE_GECKO= firefox3<->firefox -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 15:31:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8E41065695 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412818FC73 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so258398ewy.36 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:31:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3R9bfwKwCWknxxD/M7qW3Pksjy/cp2WK0P9bak6YrJA=; b=Tlbtv4L7V0pMYHu5392WXRg5eEwPFjhDA1EbKLTaf6Wq5NDNbeREx0G4HvQyWZg97X 1DltwQglS3eOL8sg9FoLSVz1GDhPz/BVhZmDmiztAdzwHQKkzTA/wDBADlzw3f2FB2Vg 8iEGPiiZuwDpenh5B6NO+9eKHrzSr3noeiWaw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vD9fhlUzyE5ZtBOJ3FS4V5B3aOJNBrjJqlCoJ0PjUwKuX1VGomAEENTTZfxL1zzTH+ 5jCHPu/J0fDMKQogf6s05ggKso9LCBpmRt3LXQpKDFy4zLZybn5wOjcCbRdmTS0WkZE+ CcEop+RtYSZO0Ouo5XK2ik3++0DImmhqNWML0= Received: by 10.210.11.13 with SMTP id 13mr4180447ebk.52.1250782294255; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm622258eyh.16.2009.08.20.08.31.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:31:30 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090820163130.55f86ce1@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> <4A89D4F9.9020508@toyon.com> <20090818032736.4702f243@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:31:35 -0000 On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:05:27 -0500 Andrew Gould wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM, RW wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:41:12 -0500 > > Andrew Gould wrote: > > > >> STABLE is what it sounds like. > > > > I don't think it is what it sounds like - STABLE branches are > > development branches with stable binary interfaces. It's the > > security branches that are intended for production use. > > > > From: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/version-guide/index.html > > "During the lifetime of each major release, an individual branch may > also be termed STABLE. This indicates that the FreeBSD Project > believes that the branch is of sufficiently proven quality to be used > by a wide range of users. Right, sufficiently proven quality to be used by a wide range of users for beta testing. I'm not saying that the stable branches shouldn't be used for production use, just that it's inadvisable to use them without a clear understanding of the reason why. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 15:38:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7511065690 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:38:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E648FC6D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7KFZ0A0084744; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:35:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n7KFZ0X9084743; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:35:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:35:00 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Andrew Gould Message-ID: <20090820153500.GD84448@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A89BD3E.8020804@toyon.com> <4A89CA18.7000506@toyon.com> <4A89D4F9.9020508@toyon.com> <20090818032736.4702f243@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packages available for different FreeBSD versions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:38:29 -0000 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 07:05:27AM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM, RW wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:41:12 -0500 > > Andrew Gould wrote: > > > >> STABLE is what it sounds like. > > > > I don't think it is what it sounds like - STABLE branches are > > development branches with stable binary interfaces. It's the security > > branches that are intended for production use. > > > > From: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/version-guide/index.html > > "During the lifetime of each major release, an individual branch may > also be termed STABLE. This indicates that the FreeBSD Project > believes that the branch is of sufficiently proven quality to be used > by a wide range of users. Branches that need further testing before > being widely adopted are named CURRENT." Yes, the snapshot is of a STABLE version when it is past the totally on the edge CURRENT condition. It is pretty close to becoming a RELEASE version. Generally only some more testing and getting ports ready for that version separates STABLE from RELEASE. CURRENT is where new development is happening. In some sense CURRENT is akin to an early (pre) Alpha version, STABLE is akin to a late Beta (almost release) version and RELEASE is the supported release of the version. But it is not quite that. Most companies do not put out their development source or a snapshot of of the system as they are working on it. They hold that secret and only release something after pretty much everything locked in before they let anyone in the public see it. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 16:31:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD79106564A for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:31:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roys1012@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB988FC60 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 22so38447eye.7 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:31:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3bmfb+KjmKs817AOyP0LTalLX8z94qXxVbLAcgegD0c=; b=RZy8zrw3sfnig3x3TDNnu+DHYDKS+KFKzgUxSXrtP0UwNew2XZpvz9NcZhZ+kEyLns Z4xuX2dz6LdbNX3WiGb1NrUCfr7pN0JT165wElzkymoA99AT/B79kwxl4uUja60BXN6O hkPgFgLEEEl9BSnZacwNEccYlAWXfUeafrrn0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=pkLvdCQmJYMmzk13xeQNTbR8RWGzL/070eYb0A674vuxVSggod2pMQy5G5bR0ssGqY CsT3YJgIdjiGSPiJPYeVz1WvUBOg/68zrNKM6QIu8BrqOwLoT6aoF40hVNvDTuJeiHqb 6AUbqeoCy+psv/fy1sBkWEO8mnHdTkZ6vSTOQ= Received: by 10.210.127.13 with SMTP id z13mr16672ebc.1.1250785906544; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.125? (ip193-123-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl [87.210.123.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm2377467eyd.4.2009.08.20.09.31.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:31:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Roy Stuivenberg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:30:57 +0200 Message-Id: <1250785857.14193.4.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: diablo-jdk16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:31:48 -0000 Hello, I am facing a java problem. When I try to install diablo-jdk16 it says .. rs-unix# pwd /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16 rs-unix# make install clean ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> Found saved configuration for diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_5 Because of licensing restrictions, you must fetch the distribution manually. Please open http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp in a web browser and follow the "Download" link for "JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1_3_15" to obtain the time zone update file, tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip. Please place the downloaded file(s) in /usr/ports/distfiles. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16. rs-unix# I have tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip in /usr/ports/distfiles. So I don't understand this issue, or what might be going wrong. rs-unix# uname -a FreeBSD rs-unix.roycs.nl 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #1: Wed Aug 5 09:57:02 CEST 2009 amsroy@rs-unix.roycs.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC-ROYCS i386 rs-unix# Regards, Roy Stuivenberg. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 16:43:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5C2106568C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:43:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1088FC16 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so27663ewy.36 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:43:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HFbCgS7M3yiTXbVzTKPMgGKSPi/42p0AOqUR8hcdJJQ=; b=ZZSSOttVnAKcAAv1sGRzZNa9F9Tps+gixURvyJFQJzA+ye5ks/zdGRh7Hvo6sud+dK Byrc+XSknvasUMAzRpASbaUr25v72YK97RkrHFNh6SXEuEre45FbvxEGDNCbBV/SY+4Y /hx5rAGpQxJf3rGQxXZMUERIVYbe1vHBOhUIo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AiRTz95ozeIhSq05eLyuWAGPcyctmzw8x5hIQ3KsGnCxBYESoF/MYuOYgX/D9rQyS0 WAQqMZfTJeuog9UwBXkUGtNZKk7mwTeczhDaTqD6julNddBWrbo0C9qhV76RP7t16DUF sxfhTunRmUnpOmSJrUWdI3IDBLkUeXypyW9gM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.66.18 with SMTP id o18mr2223026eba.59.1250784602287; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:10:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090820120815.122780@gmx.net> References: <20090820120815.122780@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:10:02 +0200 Message-ID: <1bd550a00908200910k6579e11ax21fc5a0f4301e0a0@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: Peter Cornelius Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lock order reversals on RELENG_8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:43:14 -0000 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Peter Cornelius wrote: > Hi, > > Are these lock order reversals reported any reason for preoccupation and/= or should I report elsewhere? > > The kernel I just built does not boot at all, so I don=B4t know whether t= hese are a closed issue already. I=B4m off for a couple of days and will re= try then. > Maybe the link reported here[1] could be useful. Cheers. [1]http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-July/202308.ht= ml > Thanks & regards, > > Peter. > > --- > Note: Kernels are GENERIC w/o i386/i486 options, > =A0 =A0 =A0Plus from no 4 onwards with VIMAGE and w/o SCTP option, > =A0 =A0 =A0All fs encrypted with geli except /. > --- > > Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #3: Sun Aug 16 10:28:08= UTC 2009 > Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: root@netserv.ka.cornelius:/usr/Obj-RELENG= _8/usr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/NETSERV > Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect r= educed performance. > Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz = quality 0 > Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: CPU: Intel Pentium III (1004.52-MHz 686-c= lass CPU) > Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" =A0Id =3D 0x686= =A0Stepping =3D 6 > Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: Features=3D0x383fbff PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE> > Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: real memory =A0=3D 1610612736 (1536 MB) > Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: avail memory =3D 1559375872 (1487 MB) > Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: ACPI APIC Table: > Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detect= ed: 2 CPUs > Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 1 core(s) > Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: =A03 > Aug 16 13:51:56 netserv kernel: cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: =A00 > (...) > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: 1st 0xd8d413f0 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/S= rc-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:2559 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc5782000 dirhash (dirhash) @ /usr/S= rc-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:285 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c73804,e782c75c,c= 08c0d25,c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,c4d2be90,= c4d2f228,e782c7b8,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c7675b,c5782000,c0c97= efa,c4d2f228,c0c97b8a,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c5782000,9,c0c97b8a,11= d,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: _sx_xlock(c5782000,0,c0c97b8a,11d,c58d9ae= 0,...) at _sx_xlock+0x85 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_acquire(d8d41390,da0ab800,200,= da0ab818,e782c888,...) at ufsdirhash_acquire+0x35 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_add(c58d9ae0,e782c8d0,818,e782= c874,e782c878,...) at ufsdirhash_add+0x13 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_direnter(c596953c,c596696c,e782c8d0,e= 782cbd0,0,...) at ufs_direnter+0x729 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_makeinode(e782cbd0,0,e782cabc,e782ca1= 8,c0bbc895,...) at > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_makeinode+0x508 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: ufs_create(e782cabc,e782cad4,0,0,e782cba4= ,...) at ufs_create+0x30 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: VOP_CREATE_APV(c0d77740,e782cabc,e782cbd0= ,e782ca54,0,...) at VOP_CREATE_APV+0xa5 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: vn_open_cred(e782cba4,e782cc5c,1a4,0,c51d= 2b00,...) at vn_open_cred+0x215 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: vn_open(e782cba4,e782cc5c,1a4,c51fadc8,c0= c98f76,...) at vn_open+0x3b > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: kern_openat(c5232000,ffffff9c,28412180,0,= a02,...) at kern_openat+0x11f > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: kern_open(c5232000,28412180,0,a01,1a4,...= ) at kern_open+0x35 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: open(c5232000,e782ccf8,c,c0c77024,c0d55f6= c,...) at open+0x30 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: syscall(e782cd38) at syscall+0x2a3 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x= 20 > Aug 16 13:58:56 netserv kernel: --- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF32, open), eip= =3D 0x28335923, esp =3D 0xbfbfe7bc, ebp =3D 0xbfbfe7e8 --- > (...) > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc6df37ac ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN= G_8/sys/kern/vfs_lookup.c:497 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xd8debf40 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/S= rc-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:6177 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: 3rd 0xc6e3f164 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN= G_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c73804,e78b33cc,c= 08c0d25,c08b1a0b,c0c76774,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08b1a0b,c0c76774,c4d2be90,= c4d2f1c0,e78b3428,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c76774,c6e3f164,c0c69= 0c7,c4d2f1c0,c0c7db33,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c6e3f164,9,c0c7db33,82= 3,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c6e3f164,80100,c6e3f180,0,= 0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_lock(e78b3538,c08c0acb,c0c7d00b,80100= ,c6e3f10c,...) at ffs_lock+0x8a > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d77740,e78b3538,c549d0a4,= c0d90140,c6e3f10c,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c6e3f10c,80100,c0c7db33,823,4,..= .) at _vn_lock+0x5e > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: vget(c6e3f10c,80100,c549d000,50,0,...) at= vget+0xb9 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: vfs_hash_get(c5488508,44371d7,80000,c549d= 000,e78b3694,...) at vfs_hash_get+0xe6 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_vgetf(c5488508,44371d7,80000,e78b3694= ,1,...) at ffs_vgetf+0x49 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: softdep_sync_metadata(c6df3754,0,c0c977fa= ,146,0,...) at softdep_sync_metadata+0x5ba > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_syncvnode(c6df3754,1,c0c6ec41,c0c686f= c,3,...) at ffs_syncvnode+0x3e2 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ffs_truncate(c6df3754,200,0,880,c5623680,= ...) at ffs_truncate+0x66a > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ufs_direnter(c6df3754,c6e3f10c,e78b3a1c,e= 78b3c00,d8db4e30,...) at ufs_direnter+0x8f6 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: ufs_mkdir(e78b3c28,e78b3c3c,0,0,e78b3b6c,= ...) at ufs_mkdir+0x8a7 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: VOP_MKDIR_APV(c0d77740,e78b3c28,e78b3c00,= e78b3b6c,0,...) at VOP_MKDIR_APV+0xa5 > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: kern_mkdirat(c549d000,ffffff9c,bfbfeb16,0= ,1ff,...) at kern_mkdirat+0x22b > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: kern_mkdir(c549d000,bfbfeb16,0,1ff,e78b3d= 2c,...) at kern_mkdir+0x2e > Aug 16 14:16:04 netserv kernel: mkdir(c549d000,e78b3cf8,8,c,c0d56dc0,...)= at mkdir+0x29 > Aug 16 14:16:05 netserv kernel: syscall(e78b3d38) at syscall+0x2a3 > Aug 16 14:16:05 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x= 20 > Aug 16 14:16:05 netserv kernel: --- syscall (136, FreeBSD ELF32, mkdir), = eip =3D 0x281698e3, esp =3D 0xbfbfe86c, ebp =3D 0xbfbfe938 --- > (...) > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc901dce8 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN= G_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054 > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc9dfa7ac devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-R= ELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083 > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c73804,e78ad814,c= 08c0d25,c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08b1a0b,c0c7675b,c4d2f1c0,= c4d2f0f0,e78ad870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c7675b,c9dfa7ac,c0c65= 29f,c4d2f0f0,c0c7db33,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c9dfa7ac,9,c0c7db33,82= 3,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c9dfa7ac,80100,c9dfa7c8,0,= 0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7 > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e78ad978,c08c0acb,c0c654e2,80= 100,c9dfa754,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62 > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d52ae0,e78ad978,c549d524,= c0d90140,c9dfa754,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5 > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c9dfa754,80100,c0c7db33,823,8,..= .) at _vn_lock+0x5e > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: vget(c9dfa754,80100,c549d480,15e,c0c653fb= ,...) at vget+0xb9 > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c5ce4c00,c51ca78c,e78ada10,9= d,c0f31578,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102 > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c51ca78c,80000,e78adc30,42c,0,= ...) at devfs_root+0x4a > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c549d480,0,c5ccea80,c5ccea80= ,bfbfdac9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2 > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: nmount(c549d480,e78adcf8,c,c,c0d58838,...= ) at nmount+0x75 > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: syscall(e78add38) at syscall+0x2a3 > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x= 20 > Aug 17 15:47:18 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount),= eip =3D 0x280e876b, esp =3D 0xbfbfda9c, ebp =3D 0xbfbfdff8 --- > (...) > Aug 18 13:10:29 netserv kernel: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #4: Mon Aug 17 13:46:34= UTC 2009 > (...) > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc561a270 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN= G_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc561a058 devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-R= ELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e7876814,c= 08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1f158,= c4d1f088,e7876870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c561a058,c0c11= 76c,c4d1f088,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c561a058,9,c0c2a1f8,82= 3,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c561a058,80100,c561a074,0,= 0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e7876978,c08be04b,c0c119af,80= 100,c561a000,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0cfd660,e7876978,c52059a4,= c0d38160,c561a000,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561a000,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,8,..= .) at _vn_lock+0x5e > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vget(c561a000,80100,c5205900,15e,c0c118c8= ,...) at vget+0xb9 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c55e2500,c519aa10,e7876a10,9= d,c0edf078,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c519aa10,80000,e7876c30,42c,0,= ...) at devfs_root+0x4a > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c5205900,0,c5226180,c5226180= ,bfbfd7f9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: nmount(c5205900,e7876cf8,c,c,c0d033b8,...= ) at nmount+0x75 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: syscall(e7876d38) at syscall+0x2a3 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x= 20 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount),= eip =3D 0x280e876b, esp =3D 0xbfbfd7cc, ebp =3D 0xbfbfdd28 --- > (...) > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc561a270 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN= G_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc561a058 devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-R= ELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e7876814,c= 08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1f158,= c4d1f088,e7876870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c561a058,c0c11= 76c,c4d1f088,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c561a058,9,c0c2a1f8,82= 3,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c561a058,80100,c561a074,0,= 0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e7876978,c08be04b,c0c119af,80= 100,c561a000,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0cfd660,e7876978,c52059a4,= c0d38160,c561a000,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561a000,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,8,..= .) at _vn_lock+0x5e > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vget(c561a000,80100,c5205900,15e,c0c118c8= ,...) at vget+0xb9 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c55e2500,c519aa10,e7876a10,9= d,c0edf078,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c519aa10,80000,e7876c30,42c,0,= ...) at devfs_root+0x4a > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c5205900,0,c5226180,c5226180= ,bfbfd7f9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: nmount(c5205900,e7876cf8,c,c,c0d033b8,...= ) at nmount+0x75 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: syscall(e7876d38) at syscall+0x2a3 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x= 20 > Aug 18 13:10:33 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount),= eip =3D 0x280e876b, esp =3D 0xbfbfd7cc, ebp =3D 0xbfbfdd28 --- > (...) > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: 1st 0xd8d299f0 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/S= rc-RELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:2559 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc518e200 dirhash (dirhash) @ /usr/S= rc-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:285 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e7894a74,c= 08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1bfc8,= c4d1f1c0,e7894ad0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c518e200,c0c42= b70,c4d1f1c0,c0c42800,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c518e200,9,c0c42800,11= d,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: _sx_xlock(c518e200,0,c0c42800,11d,d9c2b36= c,...) at _sx_xlock+0x85 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_acquire(0,e,c51b3000,d8d29990,= d9c2b36c,...) at ufsdirhash_acquire+0x35 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufsdirhash_remove(c57050e8,d9c2b36c,36c,e= 7894b60,e7894b5c,...) at ufsdirhash_remove+0x14 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufs_dirremove(c56f410c,c56d8a6c,500800c,0= ,c56f410c,...) at ufs_dirremove+0xe5 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufs_remove(e7894c34,0,0,0,c571f53c,...) a= t > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: ufs_remove+0x6e > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: VOP_REMOVE_APV(c0d1f760,e7894c34,c571f53c= ,e7894c0c,80f5200,...) at > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: VOP_REMOVE_APV+0xa5 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: kern_unlinkat(c570eb40,ffffff9c,80f5200,0= ,e7894c80,...) at kern_unlinkat+0x181 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: kern_unlink(c570eb40,80f5200,0,e7894d2c,c= 0b5b453,...) at kern_unlink+0x27 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: unlink(c570eb40,e7894cf8,4,c0c3d0bc,c0d00= b78,...) at unlink+0x22 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: syscall(e7894d38) at syscall+0x2a3 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x= 20 > Aug 18 13:10:38 netserv kernel: --- syscall (10, FreeBSD ELF32, unlink), = eip =3D 0x283936cf, esp =3D 0xbfbfc70c, ebp =3D 0xbfbfc738 --- > (...) > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc5ab0164 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN= G_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xd8e8e8a0 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/S= rc-RELENG_8/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:6177 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: 3rd 0xc6e8a6a0 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN= G_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e78fd3cc,c= 08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22dff,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22dff,c4d1bfc8,= c4d1f158,e78fd428,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22dff,c6e8a6a0,c0c15= 598,c4d1f158,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c6e8a6a0,9,c0c2a1f8,82= 3,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c6e8a6a0,80100,c6e8a6bc,0,= 0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_lock(e78fd538,c08be04b,c0c296d0,80100= ,c6e8a648,...) at ffs_lock+0x8a > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d1f760,e78fd538,c5a36764,= c0d38160,c6e8a648,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c6e8a648,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,4,..= .) at _vn_lock+0x5e > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: vget(c6e8a648,80100,c5a366c0,50,0,...) at= vget+0xb9 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: vfs_hash_get(c5459284,9701aa,80000,c5a366= c0,e78fd694,...) at vfs_hash_get+0xe6 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_vgetf(c5459284,9701aa,80000,e78fd694,= 1,...) at ffs_vgetf+0x49 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: softdep_sync_metadata(c5ab010c,0,c0c42470= ,146,0,...) at softdep_sync_metadata+0x5ba > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_syncvnode(c5ab010c,1,c0c1b267,c0c14bc= d,3,...) at ffs_syncvnode+0x3e2 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ffs_truncate(c5ab010c,200,0,880,c56b3100,= ...) at ffs_truncate+0x66a > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ufs_direnter(c5ab010c,c6e8a648,e78fda1c,e= 78fdc00,d8f0c300,...) at ufs_direnter+0x8f6 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: ufs_mkdir(e78fdc28,e78fdc3c,0,0,e78fdb6c,= ...) at ufs_mkdir+0x8a7 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: VOP_MKDIR_APV(c0d1f760,e78fdc28,e78fdc00,= e78fdb6c,0,...) at VOP_MKDIR_APV+0xa5 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: kern_mkdirat(c5a366c0,ffffff9c,bfbfe9fd,0= ,1ff,...) at kern_mkdirat+0x22b > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: kern_mkdir(c5a366c0,bfbfe9fd,0,1ff,e78fdd= 2c,...) at kern_mkdir+0x2e > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: mkdir(c5a366c0,e78fdcf8,8,c0c23750,c0d019= 40,...) at mkdir+0x29 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: syscall(e78fdd38) at syscall+0x2a3 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x= 20 > Aug 18 21:03:24 netserv kernel: --- syscall (136, FreeBSD ELF32, mkdir), = eip =3D 0x281698e3, esp =3D 0xbfbfe78c, ebp =3D 0xbfbfe858 --- > (...) > Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: > Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc0d70d8c allprison (allprison) @ /u= sr/Src-RELENG_8/sys/kern/kern_jail.c:2449 > Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc561ebdc ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN= G_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2188 > Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e5295ab4,c= 08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 > Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d18138,= c4d1f158,e5295b10,...) at > Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace+0x29 > Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c561ebdc,c0c15= 598,c4d1f158,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 > Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c561ebdc,9,c0c2a1f8,88= c,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 > Aug 19 07:18:46 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c561ebdc,80100,c561ebf8,0,= 0,...) at > Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args+0x7a7 > Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: ffs_lock(e5295c20,c4d18138,c0c2a1f8,80100= ,c561eb84,...) at ffs_lock+0x8a > Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0d1f760,e5295c20,c086d663,= c0d38160,c561eb84,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5 > Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561eb84,80100,c0c2a1f8,88c,0,..= .) at _vn_lock+0x5e > Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: vrele(c561eb84,c0c182d5,998,991,c0d05320,= ...) at vrele+0x137 > Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: prison_deref(e5295cd4,c08b76bb,c4f48000,1= ,c0c21720,...) at prison_deref+0x4c8 > Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: prison_complete(c4f48000,1,c0c21720,54,c4= ea515c,...) at prison_complete+0x10 > Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: taskqueue_run(c4ea5140,c4ea515c,0,c0c1260= e,0,...) at taskqueue_run+0x10b > Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: taskqueue_thread_loop(c0d84f68,e5295d38,c= 0c17e22,33e,c0d70440,...) at taskqueue_thread_loop+0x68 > Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: fork_exit(c08b77b0,c0d84f68,e5295d38) at = fork_exit+0xb8 > Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8 > Aug 19 07:18:47 netserv kernel: --- trap 0, eip =3D 0, esp =3D 0xe5295d70= , ebp =3D 0 --- > (...) > (... failing to boot into recently-built kernel ...) > (...) > Aug 20 11:07:44 netserv kernel: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #4: Mon Aug 17 13:46:34= UTC 2009 > (...) > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: lock order reversal: > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: 1st 0xc56177ac ufs (ufs) @ /usr/Src-RELEN= G_8/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1054 > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: 2nd 0xc5617594 devfs (devfs) @ /usr/Src-R= ELENG_8/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2083 > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c1fe7c,e77f5814,c= 08be2a5,c08aee9b,c0c22de6,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: kdb_backtrace(c08aee9b,c0c22de6,c4d1f158,= c4d1f088,e77f5870,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29 > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: _witness_debugger(c0c22de6,c5617594,c0c11= 76c,c4d1f088,c0c2a1f8,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: witness_checkorder(c5617594,9,c0c2a1f8,82= 3,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: __lockmgr_args(c5617594,80100,c56175b0,0,= 0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x7a7 > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: vop_stdlock(e77f5978,c08be04b,c0c119af,80= 100,c561753c,...) at vop_stdlock+0x62 > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV(c0cfd660,e77f5978,c51d99a4,= c0d38160,c561753c,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5 > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: _vn_lock(c561753c,80100,c0c2a1f8,823,8,..= .) at _vn_lock+0x5e > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: vget(c561753c,80100,c51d9900,15e,c0c118c8= ,...) at vget+0xb9 > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: devfs_allocv(c5225680,c545a000,e77f5a10,9= d,c0edf078,...) at devfs_allocv+0x102 > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: devfs_root(c545a000,80000,e77f5c30,42c,0,= ...) at devfs_root+0x4a > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: vfs_donmount(c51d9900,0,c55f0480,c55f0480= ,bfbfd7f9,...) at vfs_donmount+0x14c2 > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: nmount(c51d9900,e77f5cf8,c,c,c0d033b8,...= ) at nmount+0x75 > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: syscall(e77f5d38) at syscall+0x2a3 > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x= 20 > Aug 20 11:07:48 netserv kernel: --- syscall (378, FreeBSD ELF32, nmount),= eip =3D 0x280e876b, esp =3D 0xbfbfd7cc, ebp =3D 0xbfbfdd28 --- > (...) > > -- > Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate > f=FCr nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 16:43:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43EB106568C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:43:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3609B8FC77 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Aug 2009 16:43:34 -0000 Received: from pD952D6BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [217.82.214.189] by mail.gmx.net (mp060) with SMTP; 20 Aug 2009 18:43:34 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19fiIUCDVdfaLwWGsoK2ys9JklVyy1hOsDnXJffDi 3kGLyiNlBdK3wk Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:43:31 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Roy Stuivenberg Message-Id: <20090820184331.b4c98295.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <1250785857.14193.4.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> References: <1250785857.14193.4.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Thu__20_Aug_2009_18_43_31_+0200_Kic8L9Ffvw1NKaV5" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.63 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diablo-jdk16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:43:37 -0000 --Signature=_Thu__20_Aug_2009_18_43_31_+0200_Kic8L9Ffvw1NKaV5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:30:57 +0200 Roy Stuivenberg wrote: > Please open http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp > in a web browser and follow the "Download" link for > "JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1_3_15" to obtain the > time zone update file, tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip. > I have tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip in /usr/ports/distfiles. > So I don't understand this issue, or what might be going wrong. 1.3.18 =3D! 1.3.15 Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Thu__20_Aug_2009_18_43_31_+0200_Kic8L9Ffvw1NKaV5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) 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Vande More To: Steven Friedrich Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: desktop effects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:48:52 -0000 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Steven Friedrich wrote: > >> I'm running freebsd 7.2p3, kde4.3.0, X7.4_2, and using the radeon X >> driver. >> >> I get an error dialog when I enable desktop effects. >> >> Can anyone enable desktop effects? I'm wondering if it requires support >> in >> the X driver and perhaps the ati drivers don't support it yet. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > You need to enable the appropriate settings within xorg.conf. > > -- > Adam Vande More > Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" Option "AIGLX" "True" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "record" Load "dbe" Load "glx" Load "dri" Load "dri2" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 340 270 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor1" Option "DPMS" Option "LeftOf" "Monitor0" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "Dac8Bit" # [] #Option "BusType" # [] #Option "CPPIOMode" # [] #Option "CPusecTimeout" # #Option "AGPMode" # #Option "AGPFastWrite" # [] #Option "AGPSize" # #Option "GARTSize" # #Option "RingSize" # #Option "BufferSize" # #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [] #Option "EnablePageFlip" # [] #Option "NoBackBuffer" # [] #Option "DMAForXv" # [] #Option "FBTexPercent" # #Option "DepthBits" # #Option "PCIAPERSize" # #Option "AccelDFS" # [] #Option "IgnoreEDID" # [] #Option "DisplayPriority" # [] #Option "PanelSize" # [] #Option "ForceMinDotClock" # #Option "ColorTiling" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "RageTheatreCrystal" # #Option "RageTheatreTunerPort" # #Option "RageTheatreCompositePort" # #Option "RageTheatreSVideoPort" # #Option "TunerType" # #Option "RageTheatreMicrocPath" # #Option "RageTheatreMicrocType" # #Option "ScalerWidth" # Option "RenderAccel" "1" # [] #Option "SubPixelOrder" # [] #Option "ShowCache" # [] #Option "DynamicClocks" # [] #Option "VGAAccess" # [] #Option "ReverseDDC" # [] #Option "LVDSProbePLL" # [] Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" # Option "DRI" "1" # [] #Option "ConnectorTable" # #Option "DefaultConnectorTable" # [] #Option "DefaultTMDSPLL" # [] #Option "TVDACLoadDetect" # [] #Option "ForceTVOut" # [] #Option "TVStandard" # #Option "IgnoreLidStatus" # [] #Option "DefaultTVDACAdj" # [] #Option "Int10" # [] #Option "EXAVSync" # [] #Option "ATOMTVOut" # [] #Option "R4xxATOM" # [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "radeon" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "R420 JI [Radeon X800PRO]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Option "monitor-VGA-0" "Monitor0" Option "monitor-DVI-0" "Monitor1" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Virtual 2560 1024 EndSubSection EndSection Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 16:56:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B1D106568B for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dunc@lemonia.org) Received: from tang.lemonia.org (tang.lemonia.org [88.208.192.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0956A8FC6B for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gateway.ash.thebunker.net ([213.129.64.4] helo=[172.16.3.10]) by tang.lemonia.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MeAdc-000Hwj-Ph; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:37:28 +0100 Message-ID: <4A8D7BBA.1000306@lemonia.org> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:37:14 +0100 From: Dunc User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090806) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roy Stuivenberg References: <1250785857.14193.4.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> In-Reply-To: <1250785857.14193.4.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 213.129.64.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on tang.lemonia.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on tang.lemonia.org) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diablo-jdk16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:56:30 -0000 Roy Stuivenberg wrote: > Hello, > > I am facing a java problem. > > When I try to install diablo-jdk16 it says .. > > rs-unix# pwd > /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16 > rs-unix# make install clean > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Found saved configuration for diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_5 > > Because of licensing restrictions, you must fetch the distribution > manually. > > Please open http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp > in a web browser and follow the "Download" link for > "JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1_3_15" to obtain the > time zone update file, tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip. > > Please place the downloaded file(s) in /usr/ports/distfiles. > > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16. > rs-unix# > > I have tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip in /usr/ports/distfiles. > > So I don't understand this issue, or what might be going wrong. > > well tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip isn't tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 17:08:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAA81065691 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:08:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4DDB8FC6D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Aug 2009 17:08:10 -0000 Received: from pD952D6BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [217.82.214.189] by mail.gmx.net (mp058) with SMTP; 20 Aug 2009 19:08:10 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19TlVs4oVpTPWIJa/Wz+EwbzMPazV81wwNuKtM7HN Jo/zXQfJJETMPw Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:08:06 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Roy Stuivenberg Message-Id: <20090820190806.2208eb42.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <1250786707.14193.9.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> References: <1250785857.14193.4.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> <20090820184331.b4c98295.cyb.@gmx.net> <1250786707.14193.9.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Thu__20_Aug_2009_19_08_06_+0200_9lWr.vhMuWzUIOsh" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.5600000000000001 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diablo-jdk16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:08:12 -0000 --Signature=_Thu__20_Aug_2009_19_08_06_+0200_9lWr.vhMuWzUIOsh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:45:07 +0200 Roy Stuivenberg wrote: > Tnx Andreas, >=20 > and where to get this version? > Can't find it .. and also this is not like FreeBSD .. makes me think of > Linux dependencie problems? Google: tzupdater-1.3.15 -> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-java/2009-June/008118.html -> https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_Developer-Site/en= _US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductRef=3Dtzupdater-1.3.15-oth-JPR@CDS= -CDS_Developer Why is it not like Freebsd? The only problem here is that you cannot downlo= ad older versions from Suns website more easily. Any way, that should do it. Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Thu__20_Aug_2009_19_08_06_+0200_9lWr.vhMuWzUIOsh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqNgvkACgkQ8P3NNypXNWVQvgCcCECoMZeei2MmC19fGTo7DLkq 2mMAnjB74O2xMqWoI0ho1RSv/RyQvsdh =rYU6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Thu__20_Aug_2009_19_08_06_+0200_9lWr.vhMuWzUIOsh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 17:34:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B97010656A5 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:34:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss@free.fr) Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9058FC73 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:34:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (mwinf5a03 [10.232.33.25]) by mwinf2010.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 393A61C0365E for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:39:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf5a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 824461C000AB; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:39:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf5a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7503B1C000B4; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:39:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (LCaen-151-92-21-48.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.200.48]) by mwinf5a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 564761C000B2; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:39:30 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090820163930353.564761C000B2@mwinf5a03.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: e-masson0330 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9FD170D6; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:39:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.kisoft-services.com Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tdj2qg0D3iJg; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:39:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 12BA2170F0; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:39:26 +0200 (CEST) To: Roy Stuivenberg From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <1250785857.14193.4.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> (Roy Stuivenberg's message of "Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:30:57 +0200") References: <1250785857.14193.4.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p5 i386 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:39:25 +0200 Message-ID: <86k50ysama.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diablo-jdk16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:34:08 -0000 Roy Stuivenberg writes: Hi, > rs-unix# make install clean > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Found saved configuration for diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_5 > > Because of licensing restrictions, you must fetch the distribution > manually. > > Please open http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp > in a web browser and follow the "Download" link for > "JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1_3_15" to obtain the > time zone update file, tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip. > > Please place the downloaded file(s) in /usr/ports/distfiles. > > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16. > rs-unix# > > I have tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip in /usr/ports/distfiles. tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip and tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip are not the same files. Get the port required version, tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip, or update your ports tree. -- DM> FU2 BàS T'as rien trouvé de pire comme pseudo? SI un jour il te venait la bonne idée d'en changer, fais moi signe, j'ai déjà quelques idées -+- mimi in : bien configurer son pseudo -+- Hi, to this day the dispatch order #026-5884620 has not reached me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 17:52:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF807106568C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:52:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E09A8FC51 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7KHpvgK070955; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:51:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n7KHputI070952; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:51:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:51:56 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: <6201873e0908200948j7016ccbfp660820e7892086bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <200908200836.55115.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <6201873e0908200651s3b570b91g67c96dbb0527169a@mail.gmail.com> <6201873e0908200948j7016ccbfp660820e7892086bf@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:51:57 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Steven Friedrich Subject: Re: desktop effects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:52:01 -0000 On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Adam Vande More wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Steven Friedrich wrote: >> >>> I'm running freebsd 7.2p3, kde4.3.0, X7.4_2, and using the radeon X >>> driver. >>> >>> I get an error dialog when I enable desktop effects. >>> >>> Can anyone enable desktop effects? I'm wondering if it requires support >>> in >>> the X driver and perhaps the ati drivers don't support it yet. >> >> You need to enable the appropriate settings within xorg.conf. >> [...] > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "AIGLX" "True" > EndSection [...] > Section "Extensions" > Option "Composite" "Enable" > EndSection I don't have either of those in my radeon xorg.conf, but composite effects in Xfce like window transparency work. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 17:59:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2F0106568E for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F60B8FC62 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:59:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7KHxicK070985; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:59:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n7KHxisk070982; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:59:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:59:44 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Roy Stuivenberg In-Reply-To: <1250785857.14193.4.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> Message-ID: References: <1250785857.14193.4.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:59:44 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diablo-jdk16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:59:48 -0000 On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Roy Stuivenberg wrote: > Hello, > > I am facing a java problem. > > When I try to install diablo-jdk16 it says .. > > rs-unix# pwd > /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16 > rs-unix# make install clean > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> Found saved configuration for diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_5 > > Because of licensing restrictions, you must fetch the distribution > manually. > > Please open http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp > in a web browser and follow the "Download" link for > "JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1_3_15" to obtain the > time zone update file, tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip. > > Please place the downloaded file(s) in /usr/ports/distfiles. > > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16. > rs-unix# > > I have tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip in /usr/ports/distfiles. > > So I don't understand this issue, or what might be going wrong. Unless you care about the time zone updater, just 'make config' and turn it off. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 18:05:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245D5106568C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: from gdead.mooseriver.com (gdead.mooseriver.com [205.166.121.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E488FC55 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gdead.mooseriver.com (Postfix, from userid 2010) id 95D3D61C1A; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:05:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gdead.mooseriver.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_53 autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from mooseriver.com (berkeley.mooseriver.com [75.61.201.134]) by gdead.mooseriver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA16161C30; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mooseriver.com (Postfix, from userid 200) id B817D1D7834; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:05:33 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: Roy Stuivenberg Message-ID: <20090820180533.GA3982@mooseriver.com> References: <1250785857.14193.4.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1250785857.14193.4.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: Moose River, LLC Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diablo-jdk16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:05:35 -0000 --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 06:30:57PM +0200, Roy Stuivenberg wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I am facing a java problem. >=20 > When I try to install diablo-jdk16 it says .. >=20 > rs-unix# pwd > /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16 > rs-unix# make install clean > =3D=3D=3D> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > =3D=3D=3D> Found saved configuration for diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_5 >=20 > Because of licensing restrictions, you must fetch the distribution > manually. >=20 > Please open http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp > in a web browser and follow the "Download" link for > "JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1_3_15" to obtain the > time zone update file, tzupdater-1_3_15-2009g.zip. >=20 > Please place the downloaded file(s) in /usr/ports/distfiles. >=20 > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16. > rs-unix#=20 >=20 > I have tzupdater-1_3_18-2009k.zip in /usr/ports/distfiles. >=20 > So I don't understand this issue, or what might be going wrong. >=20 >=20 > rs-unix# uname -a > FreeBSD rs-unix.roycs.nl 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #1: Wed Aug 5 > 09:57:02 CEST 2009 > amsroy@rs-unix.roycs.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC-ROYCS i386 > rs-unix#=20 >=20 >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Roy Stuivenberg. How about downloading the package from the FreeBSD Foundation. http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml Trust me, it is a lot faster to download and install a binary package than go the long compile process. Josef --=20 Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 7.2 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | Berkeley, Ca. --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFKjZBty8prLS1GYSERAoyGAJ9hrYuNa/QFUw/tul9uZOOj6AMqMwCfW77E bcy/b3AYL2Z2laptUBjkmFo= =dbtk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 18:06:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D8D1065693 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss@free.fr) Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6348FC79 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:06:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf5a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8D33E1C0008C; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:06:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf5a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 807B21C0009E; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:06:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (LCaen-151-92-21-48.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.200.48]) by mwinf5a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6AA991C0008C; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:06:28 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090820180628437.6AA991C0008C@mwinf5a03.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: e-masson0330 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F215170D6; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:06:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.kisoft-services.com Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zINUANkXyhhR; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:06:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9204917113; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:06:23 +0200 (CEST) To: Mailing List FreeBSD Questions From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <1250786438.14193.6.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> (Roy Stuivenberg's message of "Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:40:38 +0200") References: <1250785857.14193.4.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> <86k50ysama.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> <1250786438.14193.6.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p5 i386 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:06:23 +0200 Message-ID: <86bpmas6lc.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Roy Stuivenberg Subject: Re: diablo-jdk16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:06:29 -0000 Roy Stuivenberg writes: Hi, > My portstree is up to date, and when I follow the link on Sun website > this is the version I get? Seems the port lags behind Sun's site. -- (Pour mesurer l'intelligence dans fufe) Facile: un test de Turing. Tu prends une personne dans un groupe sensé, une personne dans fufe. Dès que tu arrives à repérer le trolleur tu détruis le groupe. -+- Ol in Guide du Neuneu Usenet : Maffacre à la fufonneuse -+- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 18:08:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4CF1065692 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@midsummerdream.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa01-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39BF28FC51 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11090 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2009 18:08:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.217.88.174) by p3plsmtpa01-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.90) with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2009 18:08:39 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8D9124.6020405@midsummerdream.org> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:08:36 -0500 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090701) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: No Device Node assigned for HD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lists@midsummerdream.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:08:40 -0000 I've a 10 disk server that I am using as a file server. I split the disks up unto 3 partitions, with a being part of a gmirror for /, b being part of a gmirror for swap, and d being part of the zfs pool. I've got 6 SATA headers on my MB, and 4 from a HighPoint RocketRAID 2310 controller which I'm just using as an SATA controller (no RAID functionality). I recently added an Hitachi 1TB drive to the RocketRAID controller, but I'm not seeing FreeBSD assign it a device node. FreeBSD recognizes the drive insertion, but doesn't give it a device node. All the drives are SATA hot-swap, so I connected the drive to a header off the MB and FreeBSD happily gave it a device node. Additionally, I already have a few of these drives in the array, but they're all connected to headers on the MB. This is the first attempt at adding one to the RocketRAID controller. The controller currently has 3 other disks in it that are 500GB, and FreeBSD has had no problems with them. The RocketRAID controller's BIOS recognizes the disk as well, so it doesn't seem the card is incapable of handling disks that large. I've even tried rebooting the system after the drive has been connected, but no luck. Here's the respective info from the boot sequence as it pertains to the RocketRAID and the drives attached to it: hptrr: start channel [0,0] hptrr: start channel [0,1] hptrr: start channel [0,2] hptrr: start channel [0,3] hptrr: [0 0] Start channel soft reset. hptrr: [0 1] Start channel soft reset. hptrr: [0 2] Start channel soft reset. hptrr: [0 3] Start channel soft reset. hptrr: channel [0,0] started successfully hptrr: channel [0,1] started successfully hptrr: channel [0,2] started successfully hptrr: channel [0,3] started successfully hptrr0: [GIANT-LOCKED] hptrr0: [ITHREAD] ... da0 at hptrr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da1 at hptrr0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da2 at hptrr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device ... The only difference I've found is that in the RocketRAID BIOS, the 3 500GB drives are recognized with a Legacy Status, whereas the 1TB is recognized as New Status. Not sure what that means or how to change it. The sizes are reported correctly in the RocketRAID BIOS. I believe there is a BIOS update available for the card, but I wouldn't think it would be necessary since the card's BIOS seems to recognize the card just fine. Any suggestions/help? Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 18:38:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76151065672 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF958FC43 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9E21CC88; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:38:02 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id VhdjddFjHjhT; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:37:59 +0300 (EEST) Received: from rivendell (a88-114-134-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi [88.114.134.146]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61EA01CC5C; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:37:57 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <1DD722CD94764E1EA5440E920B294DB2@rivendell> From: "Reko Turja" To: "Al Plant" , References: <4A8CA912.3080201@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: <4A8CA912.3080201@hdk5.net> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:38:06 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 Cc: Subject: Re: csh & tcsh history missing after reboot FBSD_8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:38:11 -0000 > What can I do to get the history to remain in memory across a=20 > reboot? Changing the capicity of set history to greater than 100=20 > does not affect it. How about: shutdown -r +1 logout -Reko=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 18:44:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5DF106568F for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D808FC65 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so131740ywh.28 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:44:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=BIon2IiQddl7UPUXB4LFR/OPkNt54qnsPvXmY9kJRME=; b=V6drAhCmICjzT2oiOQ8COX+kb8VcZmI6oxlTJ2cu8XigwqjVCIHzgEM9mWYwx9tIf+ Srbdfrvrfm4DeNvbPu8/8rMEi8awm1InBMohsjHxeqLRob6PF04mkwpiKqyHLv+idZ3a /z1nmu0OWqqXb9t08zmVuHOPe1DpzofqYzEjw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=PwGkjf8h7uWXGP9yntX99IuFtFU/7Spp/Oa1ljV8yRmyx1IurypjA4Hk4LKoYzuzN1 NqtdFyPc2CpJyhX6WrpOFdMFjcf+Wc28HFQxEp7jusFR/ZpyCoIPNig+c60LcovhH7sJ Q8B9W2y1raNJMn2oqAh/qUEAXVpJXqQaleS8k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.253.17 with SMTP id a17mr332046ybi.256.1250793847452; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:44:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <200908200836.55115.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <6201873e0908200651s3b570b91g67c96dbb0527169a@mail.gmail.com> <6201873e0908200948j7016ccbfp660820e7892086bf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:44:07 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908201144n6cc64cabqe79fee29c197a2df@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Steven Friedrich Subject: Re: desktop effects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:44:08 -0000 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Adam Vande More wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Adam Vande More > >wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Steven Friedrich >> >wrote: >>> >>> I'm running freebsd 7.2p3, kde4.3.0, X7.4_2, and using the radeon X >>>> driver. >>>> >>>> I get an error dialog when I enable desktop effects. >>>> >>>> Can anyone enable desktop effects? I'm wondering if it requires support >>>> in >>>> the X driver and perhaps the ati drivers don't support it yet. >>>> >>> >>> You need to enable the appropriate settings within xorg.conf. >>> >>> > [...] > > Section "ServerFlags" >> Option "AIGLX" "True" >> EndSection >> > > [...] > > Section "Extensions" >> Option "Composite" "Enable" >> EndSection >> > > I don't have either of those in my radeon xorg.conf, but composite effects > in Xfce like window transparency work. This is also true for me under 7.2(untested elsewhere). > > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > I wasn't able to use kde4 compositing manager until they were there. compiz* may have different requirements as well. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 18:55:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D60B106568E for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:55:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@infosec.pl) Received: from v027580.home.net.pl (v027580.home.net.pl [89.161.156.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A3618FC51 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.66?) (ml.freeside@home@127.0.0.1) by m094.home.net.pl with SMTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:55:26 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8DA9FD.6080904@infosec.pl> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:54:37 +0000 From: Michal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090729) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: digital camera and devd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:55:22 -0000 Hello, I've got a Canon digital camera set up and working with gphoto2 via devfs+devd but it's not elegant/clean enough: attach 0 { device-name "ugen[0-9]+"; match "vendor" "0x0123"; match "product" "0x3210"; match "sernum" "1234567890"; action "devfs rule -s 10 add 100 path $device-name* user joe; \ devfs rule -s 10 add 200 path usb[0-9] user joe; \ devfs rule -s 10 applyset"; }; Problem with this solution is that it changes owner for all /dev/usb files i.e. usb, usb0, usb1, usb2 and usb3. How can I check exactly which /dev/usb* entry corresponds to my camera? And by the way /dev/usb3 means port 3, hub 3 or what are they? Tried with: usb_number=`sysctl dev.ugen.0.%location | cut -d '=' -f 2` but it turns out that it's not what I'm looking for because sometimes when it returns "2" then I still need write access to just /dev/usb3. Any ideas please? Michal -- "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." -John Dalberg-Acton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 19:00:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090E3106568C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss@free.fr) Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FA58FC16 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf5a04.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A2B6D1C000A0; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:00:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf5a04.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 93B361C000A2; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:00:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (LCaen-151-92-21-48.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.200.48]) by mwinf5a04.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 515CF1C000A0; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:00:34 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090820190034333.515CF1C000A0@mwinf5a04.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: e-masson0330 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7533170D6; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:00:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.kisoft-services.com Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MN+ecRJNyTm5; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:00:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DB02817127; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:00:28 +0200 (CEST) To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <20090820180533.GA3982@mooseriver.com> (Josef Grosch's message of "Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:05:33 -0700") References: <1250785857.14193.4.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> <20090820180533.GA3982@mooseriver.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p5 i386 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:00:28 +0200 Message-ID: <867hwys437.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Roy Stuivenberg , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diablo-jdk16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:00:36 -0000 Josef Grosch writes: Hi, > Trust me, it is a lot faster to download and install a binary package than > go the long compile process. Diablo-j(re|dk) ports install binary packages... -- Je parlais au nom de tous les frjviens, ne joue pas au con... VOUS n'avez pas à détruire NOTRE ng. C'est clair comme ça ou il faut que je te l'explique avec des mots plus faciles encore ? -+- in - Mon niouzegroup à moi ke G -+- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 19:03:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62776106568D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:03:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snikeris@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10968FC62 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:03:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 22so60704eye.7 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:03:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xFlFKr2bpw4ahOJjelxfm4Qk44nw5Iq9+VwsTKZkw8M=; b=wfZxATLWfX9u7I4HVLoc+wnmaaw0CTyQLVoGEvilMPpdPdH1juNoS5Z3QASEITf1vt 61R/ljtJxUs4obZfny8ogg9C8yYI6JP/+da/bnf8JNv8FLqIwwDIVtnC/Vx1eZULZqZ0 DOhHjc09KzWxHrQPxldXN/sEFofE5GcfBPQx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A5QH4bfRq0knr/9FuJ5HEHwoLrCc55YAQwFdEkM4Rmf5iY5k1x1UG6mZT6zYT8vpUJ KPZbHF5gGyTX+C6tdax5ptRynka821EQ7rSEL7qpxV7W5VNmA6+a9k48110/QGnX7639 dxQK+A9jd3UmgB/XvyAwEP6rea//SW5bVsMow= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: snikeris@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.85.144 with SMTP id u16mr32110wee.3.1250795009295; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:03:29 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7f8efffd11319743 Message-ID: <20b8a1c50908201203h7a9eb290l80d821fde5ee48eb@mail.gmail.com> From: Joe Snikeris To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Suspend/Resume on Thinkpad x40 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:03:31 -0000 Hi all, First off, I apologize if this is not the right forum for this question. I was torn between posting this in mobile, ACPI, X11 and here. If I might get a better response in one of those forums, please let me know and I'll post there instead. I'm having some trouble getting the kinks worked out of the suspend/resume functionality on my laptop, an IBM Thinkpad X40. It is mostly working now, but I am still experiencing some strange behavior. I can suspend and resume from a console just fine (except for the fact that the console comes up blank and only displays new characters); however, suspending and resuming in X is problematic. The first suspend and resume in X works perfectly, but the next time I hit suspend, the machine locks up while still displaying whatever I was doing in X. Note that if I switch to a virtual terminal before hitting suspend, this problem does not occur. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I might do to get this resolved? The details of my machine follows; please let me know if any additional information would be helpful. > uname -a FreeBSD sussman.snikeris.com 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jun 24 00:57:44 UTC 2009 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > cat /boot/loader.conf # Disable boot menu beastie_disable="YES" autoboot_delay=-1 # Needed for firefox to display certain HTML5 elements sem_load="YES" # Needed so we can resume from suspend w/ a working display. hw.acpi.reset_video=1 # Needed so mouse will work on resume hint.psm.0.flags="0x3000" # Possibly needed for successful resume hint.apic.0.disabled=1 # Needed for sound snd_ich_load="YES" # Needed for wireless (iwi) if_iwi_load="YES" wlan_load="YES" firmware_load="YES" iwi_bss_load="YES" iwi_ibss_load="YES" iwi_monitor_load="YES" legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1 # Needed for 3d graphics acceleration agp_load="YES" # Needed for cdrecord to work atapicam_load="YES" # See 'man acpi_ibm' acpi_ibm_load="YES" > cat /etc/rc.conf # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sat Jul 4 11:10:49 2009 # Created: Sat Jul 4 11:10:49 2009 # Enable network daemons for user convenience. # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # Set by sysinstall hostname="sussman.snikeris.com" #ifconfig_em0="DHCP" linux_enable="YES" moused_enable="YES" # Allow X to locate mouse and keyboard automatically using HAL hald_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" keyrate="fast" keybell="off" > cat /etc/sysctl.conf # $FreeBSD: src/etc/sysctl.conf,v 1.8.32.1 2009/04/15 03:14:26 kensmith Exp $ # # This file is read when going to multi-user and its contents piped thru # ``sysctl'' to adjust kernel values. ``man 5 sysctl.conf'' for details. # # Uncomment this to prevent users from seeing information about processes that # are being run under another UID. #security.bsd.see_other_uids=0 hw.acpi.standby_state=S0 hw.acpi.suspend_state=S3 hw.acpi.sleep_button_state=S3 vfs.usermount=1 hw.acpi.sleep_delay=3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 19:56:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E866B106568B for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF298FC5B for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:56:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so69023fgb.12 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:56:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E6dE4IiRk8mZJ8P3G/ApgJ+kwjEkI8eEKdXIR25Ygws=; b=GD7H3GrERNmAZV7p8EBNBbH8GjfItQRigTu/MN8mQXHof6BQAJUSOEqbAoQdUwpZf+ nECvK5jpOYBtYC9Dn/ltcuRDsygCdV/K9IDPd94w9OrpAy0kJn+SQ0mEFsE4lL7sskqI CsQuj0asunCmU88RMlPWQpy6HU1SAMc5b5coU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OHhhbuLTA2LBuFj5sO4qcBxDCNWxYQnWhzWcglazxqWH6lURdPAVxxWXewxtZV9rXJ le7i/GtN78HSVjdvvzaS6+wsWMqk9TibA9iHUwYUCy/7s/EXY0u95B78iSyRDnkNLr2b pMCIrvdupgzl+R8aMx2JYec0Uur6OQQB5D8/E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.33 with SMTP id q33mr20254hba.126.1250798181037; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:56:20 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ml@infosec.pl Subject: Re: digital camera and devd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:56:23 -0000 >How can I check exactly which /dev/usb* entry corresponds to my camera? If you are using the old USB stack, use usbdevs(8). If you are using the new USB stack from less than 5 months ago, then use usbconfig(8): usbdevs -v or usbconfig dump_device_desc (or other options visible with usbconfig -h) >And by the way /dev/usb3 means port 3, hub 3 or what are they? usbus unit number, usb device index Regards, b. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 20:31:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B821065690 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E438FC66 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7KKVW3H071466; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:31:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n7KKVWdm071463; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:31:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:31:32 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: <6201873e0908201144n6cc64cabqe79fee29c197a2df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <200908200836.55115.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <6201873e0908200651s3b570b91g67c96dbb0527169a@mail.gmail.com> <6201873e0908200948j7016ccbfp660820e7892086bf@mail.gmail.com> <6201873e0908201144n6cc64cabqe79fee29c197a2df@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-902635197-174331236-1250799806=:71417" Content-ID: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:31:32 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Steven Friedrich Subject: Re: desktop effects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:31:37 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---902635197-174331236-1250799806=:71417 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Adam Vande More wrote: > > [...] > > Section "ServerFlags" >      Option "AIGLX" "True" > EndSection > > > [...] > > Section "Extensions" >      Option "Composite" "Enable" > EndSection > > I wasn't able to use kde4 compositing manager until they were there.  compiz* may have different requirements as well. Looking at my Xorg.0.log, they're on by default... Aha. AIGLX is a build option for xorg-server. Can't find where the composite extension came from, but I bet it's the same deal. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ---902635197-174331236-1250799806=:71417-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 21:07:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BF8106568E for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:07:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E32B8FC6D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so251362ywh.28 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:07:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Zw9QKHLV+PMvKI2RdlwU7QFVAV+N8qTRatFx8u1G4gs=; b=GyEnZYb3ZySUmOMzixnf9nKEuIDjOiiymgT7qIOTmUOdlzfvn9ppVxKMKqySbANsTT SkTzSRIuaPi5oMxLIjnGxlIbQnJLDb7YnshI56AgIF8WEPr/4zJjMzBiFN9H9E39O6u0 AteKroS1kSdG6zbhRD10y4NyLtORF+4Jz/TFg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=wf+WHeBrgV9u49R26phRmCj5DyEDaVao7vbDCq3d+lJDzLj8qe/Thsua48nd2mKEgI TC+nN486FZXj2ENng7tHCOeEt6iNSZESgS0Xp8ZRXzssqmb3Z2YyK6x/pP4YDGmmx1Et Lx/Cu6hlyemdjfrlKoyyb12s3fO+lGn0iGFbg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.16.28 with SMTP id 28mr628827ybp.133.1250802474842; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:07:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <200908200836.55115.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <6201873e0908200651s3b570b91g67c96dbb0527169a@mail.gmail.com> <6201873e0908200948j7016ccbfp660820e7892086bf@mail.gmail.com> <6201873e0908201144n6cc64cabqe79fee29c197a2df@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:07:54 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908201407n30b12392v4906e089f5993542@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Steven Friedrich Subject: Re: desktop effects X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:07:56 -0000 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Adam Vande More wrote: > >> >> [...] >> >> Section "ServerFlags" >> Option "AIGLX" "True" >> EndSection >> >> >> [...] >> >> Section "Extensions" >> Option "Composite" "Enable" >> EndSection >> >> I wasn't able to use kde4 compositing manager until they were there. >> compiz* may have different requirements as well. >> > > Looking at my Xorg.0.log, they're on by default... Aha. AIGLX is a build > option for xorg-server. Can't find where the composite extension came from, > but I bet it's the same deal. > > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA > Now I looked further: http://wiki.xfce.org/faq According that the composite extension is now enabled by default as well so I have some carry-over from old config file. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 21:29:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C863E106568D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F5F8FC65 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ew0-f209.google.com with SMTP id 5so240357ewy.36 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:29:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rm7o6FfPELZid1qHbpStSUR0BEyJE19zgyyRu5HumKU=; b=hIBfs8+ffYQKshKEHWSlXFwH1bYF9s+wrAQy67B4IuGgJ5kk4Lusvn/EQAtjsfLwct VyjpQ8vEeyVr0UzVmCcUwx1hQMCq3RaC+6ebxHGUKvUNItO9LBPimSTmmlAS4sQh4ClR v3/1erefx6DG/lr4cwUg1ggmvXHEsMnZmPv+Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Mcf82MwUPzRlBo5NJ0bejU+FVvS5CMAlH7xhy/sPR/jWRdBWRiRhqx570pByWUB3lm YN16CbikyLR5sl5Emp/JG3ybtTFAxm2USSuWm7iqSlEm6N9Xq14Dks+XiDUBChL1k/h7 +HsVzNhzouhdYFMEmb1CxHndVFkjSY72IZAAk= Received: by 10.210.41.16 with SMTP id o16mr584058ebo.80.1250803739725; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm617286eyg.25.2009.08.20.14.28.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:28:54 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090820222854.3e8825a5@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4A8DA9FD.6080904@infosec.pl> References: <4A8DA9FD.6080904@infosec.pl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: digital camera and devd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:29:00 -0000 On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:54:37 +0000 Michal wrote: > Hello, > > I've got a Canon digital camera set up and working with gphoto2 via > devfs+devd but it's not elegant/clean enough: > ... > Problem with this solution is that it changes owner for all /dev/usb > files i.e. usb, usb0, usb1, usb2 and usb3. > > How can I check exactly which /dev/usb* entry corresponds to my > camera? And by the way /dev/usb3 means port 3, hub 3 or what are they? I'm not very familiar with devfs+devd, but can you not use glabel to give the camera a persistent name. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 21:37:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DAB7106568C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047548FC3D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7KLbMPA013866; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:37:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B3018B85D; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:37:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:37:22 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Michal Message-ID: <20090820213722.GB3586@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A8DA9FD.6080904@infosec.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QTprm0S8XgL7H0Dt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A8DA9FD.6080904@infosec.pl> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: digital camera and devd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:37:25 -0000 --QTprm0S8XgL7H0Dt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 07:54:37PM +0000, Michal wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I've got a Canon digital camera set up and working with gphoto2 via=20 > devfs+devd but it's not elegant/clean enough: >=20 > attach 0 { > device-name "ugen[0-9]+"; > match "vendor" "0x0123"; > match "product" "0x3210"; > match "sernum" "1234567890"; > action "devfs rule -s 10 add 100 path $device-name* user joe; \ > devfs rule -s 10 add 200 path usb[0-9] user joe; \ > devfs rule -s 10 applyset"; > }; >=20 > Problem with this solution is that it changes owner for all /dev/usb=20 > files i.e. usb, usb0, usb1, usb2 and usb3. >=20 > How can I check exactly which /dev/usb* entry corresponds to my camera? > And by the way /dev/usb3 means port 3, hub 3 or what are they? > Tried with: > usb_number=3D`sysctl dev.ugen.0.%location | cut -d '=3D' -f 2` but it tur= ns=20 > out that it's not what I'm looking for because sometimes when it returns= =20 > "2" then I still need write access to just /dev/usb3. >=20 > Any ideas please? I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to achieve here. But here is my =A40,02: Create a group called 'usb'. Make every user that you want to be able to use usb devices a member of this group. Next, add the following rules to your active ruleset in /etc/devfs.rules: add path 'da*' mode 0660 group usb add path 'msdosfs/*' mode 0660 group usb add path 'uscanner*' mode 0660 group usb add path 'usb*' mode 0660 group usb add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 group usb If you are using 8-BETA, use 'usb/*' instead of 'usb*'. This gives the members of the usb group write acces to the relevant devices for using USB drives, cameras, scanners etc. You might want to add other usb device nodes (e.g. uhid) if you use those. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --QTprm0S8XgL7H0Dt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqNwhIACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXfuACcCZ7kaNmMR2ogYTuWthEIqyoF s1gAnAqi9puQWbELrWPfbEA09pbj5qvJ =FD9f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QTprm0S8XgL7H0Dt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 21:54:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E421B106568F for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B445D8FC64 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC557E859; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:54:32 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:54:29 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A8D329D.5030205@infosec.pl> In-Reply-To: <4A8D329D.5030205@infosec.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908201354.30521.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Michal Subject: Re: switching from one network interface to another without reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:54:34 -0000 On Thursday 20 August 2009 03:25:17 Michal wrote: > Problem description: I've got a laptop with two network interfaces > (wired em0 and wireless ath0). Every now and then I have to set up a DSL > wireless box which comes with default settings so that I have to start > with connecting my laptop via em0. > em0 gets IP address from wireless box by DHCP. I log in to web interface > and set everything up including WLAN and restart wireless box. At this > point I would like to switch to ath0 and start using internet connection > via wireless box. > I'm taking em0 interface down with "ifconfig em0 down" and unplug the > cable. I'm changing /etc/rc.conf entries to: > ifconfig_em0="NOAUTO" > ifconfig_ath0="WPA DHCP" > Then I'm doing "/etc/rc.d/netif restart" and ath0 gets IP address via > DHCP and is connected to wireless box (/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf is set up). If these are on the same network (like most wireless routers), it can pay off to use lagg(4) and then simply unplug the cable. Plug it back in and it will use the cable again. You would need: cloned_interfaces="lagg0" ifconfig_em0="UP" ifconfig_ath0="ether 00:xx:xx:xx WPA" # set to MAC address of em0 ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport em0 laggport ath0 DHCP" -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 22:05:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4D41065690 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C731A8FC51 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697A34233C1D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:04:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:04:43 -0700 From: Jason To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090820220443.GA34864@eggman.experts-exchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p6 EGGMAN X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: mirror freebsd-update server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:05:02 -0000 Hi, I am wondering if anyone has attempted to mirror the freebsd-update server? Thanks, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 22:28:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB91F106568B for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@infosec.pl) Received: from v027580.home.net.pl (v027580.home.net.pl [89.161.156.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11AB48FC57 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.66?) (ml.freeside@home@127.0.0.1) by m094.home.net.pl with SMTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:28:16 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8DDBDE.10409@infosec.pl> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:27:26 +0000 From: Michal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090729) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4A8DA9FD.6080904@infosec.pl> <20090820213722.GB3586@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090820213722.GB3586@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: digital camera and devd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:28:11 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > > I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to achieve here. But here is my > €0,02: > > Create a group called 'usb'. Make every user that you want to be able to use > usb devices a member of this group. Next, add the following rules to your > active ruleset in /etc/devfs.rules: > > add path 'da*' mode 0660 group usb > add path 'msdosfs/*' mode 0660 group usb > add path 'uscanner*' mode 0660 group usb > add path 'usb*' mode 0660 group usb > add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 group usb > And that is pretty much what I'm doing with two differences: 1. I'm using user name instead of designated group. 2. Following principle of least privilege I don't want to give him (which just happens to be myself) rights to anything other than my digital camera. Only this specific camera should trigger changes in ownership/rights of camera-related device nodes. I know it looks a bit anal at first glance but it is not ;) Michal -- "Let him who desires peace prepare for war." -Flavius Vegetius Renatus From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 22:35:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF40106564A for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:35:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@infosec.pl) Received: from v027580.home.net.pl (v027580.home.net.pl [89.161.156.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 40C0D8FC52 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.66?) (ml.freeside@home@127.0.0.1) by m094.home.net.pl with SMTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:35:27 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8DDD8F.9030405@infosec.pl> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:34:39 +0000 From: Michal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090729) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <4A8DA9FD.6080904@infosec.pl> <20090820222854.3e8825a5@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20090820222854.3e8825a5@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: digital camera and devd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:35:21 -0000 RW wrote: > > I'm not very familiar with devfs+devd, but can you not use glabel to > give the camera a persistent name. I should have mentioned that this camera works only in PTP mode so I cannot access it as a disk device. At first I thought that it's PITA but now I think it's even better because I don't have to worry about mounting/unmounting anymore. Just plug and unplug the lead whenever I want. Michal -- "Computers are like bikinis. They save people a lot of guesswork." -Sam Ewing From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 22:37:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1E2106568C for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@infosec.pl) Received: from v027580.home.net.pl (v027580.home.net.pl [89.161.156.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6C998FC66 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.66?) (ml.freeside@home@127.0.0.1) by m094.home.net.pl with SMTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:37:31 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8DDE10.7040100@infosec.pl> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:36:48 +0000 From: Michal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090729) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "b. f." References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: digital camera and devd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:37:24 -0000 b. f. wrote: >> How can I check exactly which /dev/usb* entry corresponds to my camera? > > > If you are using the old USB stack, use usbdevs(8). If you are using > the new USB stack from less than 5 months ago, then use usbconfig(8): > > usbdevs -v > Yes, I should have mentioned beforehand that it's 7.2 Release. Your solution with usbdevs gives me what I was looking for (after my clumsy grep|tail|sed|cut manipulation), thank you very much for your help. Michal -- "The reverse side also has a reverse side" -Japanese Proverb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 22:38:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70386106568E for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdv@roalddevries.nl) Received: from dutch70.vdx.nl (dutch70.vdx.nl [85.158.248.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020988FC73 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:38:05 +0000 (UTC) X-ClientAddr: 82.139.82.177 Received: from ip82-139-82-177.lijbrandt.net (ip82-139-82-177.lijbrandt.net [82.139.82.177]) (authenticated bits=0) by dutch70.vdx.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7KMPT8Y011250; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:25:29 +0200 Message-Id: From: Roald de Vries To: chris scott In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:25:24 +0200 References: <695FE1DB-81E6-41C3-94FF-2858E57D86A5@roalddevries.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-vdx_nl-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Virtual Dynamix (www.vdx.nl) for more information X-vdx_nl-MailScanner-ID: n7KMPT8Y011250 X-vdx_nl-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-vdx_nl-MailScanner-From: rdv@roalddevries.nl X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fusefs-sshfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:38:06 -0000 Dear Chris, Thanks for your reply. I've tried the absolute path as well, but no success :-(. Any other suggestions? Kind regards, Roald On Aug 18, 2009, at 10:17 AM, chris scott wrote: > 2009/8/17 Roald de Vries > Dear all, > > I've installed fusefs-sshfs, and added fusefs_enable="YES" to > rc.conf. During startup, I see fusefs being started, but when I do: > "sshfs remote:~ /media/remote", I get "fuse: failed to open fuse > device: No such file or directory". Any idea why? Thanks in advance. > > Kind regards, > > Roald > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > > try an explicit path as well rather than ~ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 22:42:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090611065672 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:42:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2BE8FC57 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C277E853; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:42:07 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:42:05 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <00B06063-9872-4ACE-8767-1221C22E33EE@silvertree.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908201442.06321.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Tim Judd , Scott Schappell Subject: Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:42:09 -0000 On Tuesday 18 August 2009 12:11:10 Tim Judd wrote: > On 8/18/09, Scott Schappell wrote: > > I have a drive (/dev/ad2s1d) mounted to /backup that I want to be read > > only until the backup scripts run and then it will be read/write. If > > I set /etc/fstab to: > > > > /dev/ad2s1d /backup ufs ro > > 0 0 > > On my CF-based devices (firewalls.. nagios boxes, etc), I run: > > mount -uw / > to update the mount (not mount again) the filesystem. If you're > trying to mount again, I could understand why the box panics. I don't. It's perfectly valid to mount a device multiple times and on the same node even. Certainly unmounting then remounting should not panic the system. If you keep getting this panic, please try and obtain a crash dump, though I suspect this to be driver or hardware related as I can't imagine such a bug has slipped into vfs/ufs. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 23:02:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5915F106568E for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@infosec.pl) Received: from v027580.home.net.pl (v027580.home.net.pl [89.161.156.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FFCB8FC52 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.1.66?) (ml.freeside@home@127.0.0.1) by m094.home.net.pl with SMTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:02:26 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8DE3E7.4070401@infosec.pl> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:01:43 +0000 From: Michal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090729) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel Flynn References: <4A8D329D.5030205@infosec.pl> <200908201354.30521.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200908201354.30521.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: switching from one network interface to another without reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:02:20 -0000 Mel Flynn wrote: > If these are on the same network (like most wireless routers), it can pay off > to use lagg(4) and then simply unplug the cable. Plug it back in and it will > use the cable again. You would need: In my case usually it's some testing environment so I needed more of a quick kludge. But thats very interesting idea for my home network, I'll definitely have to check it out, thanks! Michal -- "If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts." -Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 23:10:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5915106568E for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@freebsdonline.com) Received: from web1.unixengines.com (web1.unixengines.com [88.198.32.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4B38FC60 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unixware.iasi.rdsnet.ro ([86.124.51.145] helo=laptop.nobody.ro) by web1.unixengines.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MeGmT-00042f-M8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:10:53 +0300 Message-ID: <4A8DD808.6070206@freebsdonline.com> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:11:04 +0300 From: Ovi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090731 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: iwn driver in FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:10:24 -0000 Hello Any idea if is possible to install (and work) the iwn driver in FreeBSD 7.2 ? ovi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 23:12:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5D6106568D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E088FC16 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:12:38 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KOP002VP751K290@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:12:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A8DD867.9020604@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:12:39 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: installation sequence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:12:38 -0000 Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an ordered universe! But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and a number of pretty cumbersome applications. I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation "undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up with Error code 1. Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer, different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2... I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd. Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some rationality to this world. Thanks for any ideas... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 23:12:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9B71065694 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:12:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfl@robinlea.com) Received: from 28amen.org (28amen.org [204.3.153.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DBC8FC52 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:12:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (118.172.71.131.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [118.172.71.131]) (authenticated bits=0) by 28amen.org (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7KNCkZM026439 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:12:49 GMT Message-ID: <4A8DD86D.5020208@robinlea.com> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:12:45 +0700 From: John Francis Lee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: about vbox and freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:12:51 -0000 08/20/2009 11:59 PM Hello Duncan Hutty, I write to you directly because I have posted several times to the list and have not seen an answer to my problem, and you seem knowledgeable about freebsd. I have a dual-core amd64 machine running ubuntu 9.04 with vbox 3.04 and have tried to create a freebsd guest on it. I've had a freebsd webserver at iserver/viaverio for about 15 years but still have not set up a freebsd box of my own where I can really learn the ins and outs of the system, and I'd like to. My problem is that I'm told right at the onset of the install that CPU doesn't support long mode Someone suggested that I was trying to install a 64 bit os on 32 bit system, but I don't think that's the case : jfl@ws3:~$ hwinfo --cpu 01: None 00.0: 10103 CPU [Created at cpu.304] Unique ID: rdCR.j8NaKXDZtZ6 Hardware Class: cpu Arch: X86-64 Vendor: "AuthenticAMD" Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+" Features: fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dnow,rep_good,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_legacy,3dnowprefetch Clock: 1000 MHz BogoMips: 2009.02 Cache: 512 kb Units/Processor: 2 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown 02: None 01.0: 10103 CPU [Created at cpu.304] Unique ID: wkFv.j8NaKXDZtZ6 Hardware Class: cpu Arch: X86-64 Vendor: "AuthenticAMD" Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+" Features: fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dnow,rep_good,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_legacy,3dnowprefetch Clock: 1000 MHz BogoMips: 2009.02 Cache: 512 kb Units/Processor: 2 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown I'm then dumped into an OK prompt and unable to do much more. Have you seen or heard of this before? Sorry to bother you if you have no clue yourself. Thanks for any help you might be able to give. -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand 08/15/2009 10:38 PM My problem seems to be that CPU doesn't support long mode Is that it? Can't get there from here? -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand 08/15/2009 10:20 PM Hi, I got a new machine, a linux ubuntu-running AMD64 based one, and thought I'd try out FreeBSD here at home. But when I begin the VirtualBox installation I get dumped into a shell-looking terminal with an OK prompt. I can't read all the instructions and frankly cannot do anything with it. I tried hitting the 2 before the timeout to boot with ACPI disabled but that seems not to make any difference. Have you heard of this problem before? Any help you might give appreciated. Thanks. I'll go see if the VirtualBox people can shed any light on the matter as well. -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 23:14:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97681065697 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787368FC69 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:14:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E507E853; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:14:47 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:14:44 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <9e20d71e0908180253x4a11114cxc3e2c4af8798878@mail.gmail.com> <20090818150008.GC77498@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20090818150008.GC77498@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908201514.45706.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Dan Nelson , Artis Caune Subject: Re: shell power in rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:14:48 -0000 On Tuesday 18 August 2009 07:00:08 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Aug 18), Artis Caune said: > > Is there any reason of not using shell variables in rc.conf? > > I want to tune rc.conf for easy editing and administration. Take for > > example jail_list or cloned_interfaces with 10+ entries: > > Remember that every startup script sources rc.conf, sometimes very early or > late in the startup/shutdown sequence, so just make sure you don't echo > anything to stdout/stderr or try to run commands that might be on > filesystems that aren't mounted yet, and you should be fine. In this particular example, you're fine. In general, you should also take care that /etc/defaults/rc.conf is read before /etc/rc.conf and may set values for variables you have not specified. Defaults can also change between releases, so one should inspect /etc/defaults/rc.conf during mergemaster stage with a microscope. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 23:18:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D9B1065692 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:18:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2608FC5B for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:18:25 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KOP00IT07DPZQD0@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A8DD99E.7020408@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:17:50 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> <20090813174057.GA1517@ei.bzerk.org> <4A84659B.9000400@videotron.ca> <20090814052459.GA7598@ei.bzerk.org> In-reply-to: <20090814052459.GA7598@ei.bzerk.org> Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:18:26 -0000 An update on the problems of the boot sector disks. So far, I have not found any errors on the guilty disks from one computer... the Seagate Tools for checking their (& other) disks show no errors on the disks themselves. I haven't finished with them all, yet as I am trying to set up a couple of FBSD 7.2 servers for various functions and will have a better idea when thatis done. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 23:30:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405F5106568B for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:30:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0478FC16 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so389698ywh.28 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:30:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=d8hg0jChtm1mGY283YVfctnNLALszE9HUOuA6ITlRu0=; b=b+wuZAx0wGFbPXaI0+dkY0aZ8yR7elCJwGepyXCEwMeRAO/ch8Yd27zGXDOPmggXGw yFq+iD+gDCTj2z9+f11s8P84y43mirLB48OJCt/yI0qTySx6P/QVohD6mi/Zdn//YMVM Zv5o4yKAr4I29P8Gf8ZQKXHHn+IGQWY9nuxL4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pKXVrrQ6corFpEKHPcOsJutS1iupf0NQ4uG1UeidzuPKVbyD5zyK4g7cYwqeu/3lpT Bw4htIy+iD7/UMZlSOMtE6+DKaJtsn6oIVbNjSQWtWWZLygIGXlpBlmJE2VnxIewbWDs JE9UTcpcNmBgIpS7NJ6PgZgXge4m9RFutYCBA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.238.18 with SMTP id l18mr905212ybh.14.1250811022243; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:30:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A8DD867.9020604@videotron.ca> References: <4A8DD867.9020604@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:30:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: PJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installation sequence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:30:23 -0000 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM, PJ wrote: > Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is > to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? > I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, > cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time > to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved > by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... > usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an > ordered universe! > But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty > minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with > a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and > a number of pretty cumbersome applications. > I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan > and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for > those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. > So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been > installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and > mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't > compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to > ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation > "undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up > with Error code 1. > > Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller > installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer, > different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2... > I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work > directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd. > Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting > all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some > rationality to this world. > Thanks for any ideas... Again, not to be rude (to you or fBSD) . . . but why stick with something that is giving you soooooo much trouble? There are a bunch of open source distros out there. I can appreciate that you do not want to f'around with another distro for another week . . . but . . . >From other posts, it sounded like you have recovered the essential files. Rationality may dictate you moving on. The only thing I can suggest that may help those who know better, is to post the demsg's of the two machines (the one that works and the pain in the ass), given that they are different machines. What happened to the "faulty hardware" idea? I dunno . . . good luck! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 23:31:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9C41065697 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B498FC66 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E677E858; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:31:07 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:31:05 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <00B06063-9872-4ACE-8767-1221C22E33EE@silvertree.org> <200908201442.06321.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <465A1012-147B-449A-992A-91C1458EDB3F@silvertree.org> In-Reply-To: <465A1012-147B-449A-992A-91C1458EDB3F@silvertree.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908201531.06222.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Scott Schappell Subject: Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:31:09 -0000 On Thursday 20 August 2009 15:00:48 Scott Schappell wrote: > On Aug 20, 2009, at 15:42:05, Mel Flynn wrote: > > I don't. It's perfectly valid to mount a device multiple times and > > on the same > > node even. Certainly unmounting then remounting should not panic the > > system. > > > > If you keep getting this panic, please try and obtain a crash dump, > > though I > > suspect this to be driver or hardware related as I can't imagine > > such a bug > > has slipped into vfs/ufs. > > -- > > Mel > > Since using the mount -r syntax, it hasn't crashed once. How does one > obtain a crash dump? I'll be happy to force the system to hork and > send a crash log. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 00:05:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13E41065693 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lane@cd-solutions.net) Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3E68FC71 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=jail.joeandlane.com) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MeHNK-0007iw-L1; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:48:58 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.200] (SERVER [192.168.0.200] (may be forged)) by jail.joeandlane.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7KNlruO093307; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:47:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@cd-solutions.net) From: Lane Holcombe To: PJ In-Reply-To: <4A8DD867.9020604@videotron.ca> References: <4A8DD867.9020604@videotron.ca> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: SC&B Strategic Solutions Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:48:11 -0500 Message-Id: <1250812091.28087.23.camel@lholcombe-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ONCEAWAVE-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: n7KNlruO093307 X-ONCEAWAVE-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ONCEAWAVE-MailScanner-From: lane@cd-solutions.net X-Spam-Status: No X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec794ea2f7fdc24ff57c40804b052de3e45b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installation sequence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lane@cd-solutions.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:05:09 -0000 I'm all over this! Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so: portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be ready when you need it. Next, when ever you do a fresh install of "FreeBSD whatever," the first thing you do after the install is update your source and ports try by creating a cvsupfile, (I always keep one in /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile) like this: *default host= *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_7 *default compress src-all src-contrib ports-all tag=. Note that the and tags are put in the email for clarity, but should NOT appear in your cvsup file. I think src-contrib is overkill, but I've not bothered to find out because I'm pretty lazy. Note, also that RELENG_7 is just what I'm using now. You should adjust to the "FreeBSD whatever" that you just installed. So after you put the cvsupfile in place, run this on your new install: csup -g -L2 /path/to/cvsupfile Note, again, that csup does *not* get installed with *base before like 6.3 or something ... can't remember which. Did I mention lazy? If you are going back that far you have to install csup from ports or install cvsup from ports. (Which may likely put you back at square one where you have to work through the build failures - it ain't perfect, but it's nearly there!) Anyway, the point is you should always, always, always update your ports tree after a new install so you don't have build failures to stump you. And you still might get those :) So you should consider REBUILDING WORLD immediately after you do a new install. And THEN build/install whatever ports you need ... Good Luck! lane On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 19:12 -0400, PJ wrote: > Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is > to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? > I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, > cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time > to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved > by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... > usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an > ordered universe! > But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty > minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with > a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and > a number of pretty cumbersome applications. > I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan > and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for > those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. > So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been > installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and > mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't > compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to > ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation > "undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up > with Error code 1. > > Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller > installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer, > different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2... > I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work > directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd. > Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting > all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some > rationality to this world. > Thanks for any ideas... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 00:11:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEF31065690 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf04.insightbb.com (mxsf04.insightbb.com [74.128.0.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1868FC55 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:11:28 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,247,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="704567018" Received: from unknown (HELO asav03.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf04.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2009 20:11:27 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlwTAPOCjUrQLicL/2dsb2JhbACBU4pVvmCMT4QYBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,247,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="103078035" Received: from 208-46-39-11.dia.static.qwest.net (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([208.46.39.11]) by asavout03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2009 20:11:26 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:08:00 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.0 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.0; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200908202008.00296.freebsd@insightbb.com> Cc: Subject: Ruleset anomaly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:11:28 -0000 I'm running freebsd 7.2p3 and I believe I started seeing the following messages after the p3 patch. /etc/rc: WARNING: devfs_set_ruleset: you must specify a ruleset number /etc/rc: WARNING: devfs_apply_ruleset: you must specify a ruleset This is in /etc/rc.conf, but I don't know what put it there: devfs_system_ruleset="localrules" The man page for devfs mentions name, not number. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 00:33:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292E0106568D for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BDCD8FC6C for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:33:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13443 invoked by uid 89); 21 Aug 2009 00:34:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 21 Aug 2009 00:34:14 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8DEB4F.8030605@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:33:19 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber , Steve Bertrand , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" References: <4A8B82FD.30305@ibctech.ca> <4ad871310908182259j202b1a0au82e15c7259a583c1@mail.gmail.com> <20090820034910.GA36715@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090820034910.GA36715@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080600060904040003010002" Cc: Subject: Re: [OT] Vim mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:33:27 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080600060904040003010002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank Shute wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:59:05AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Steve Bertrand wrote: >>> Apologies up front for the off-topic'dness. >>> >>> I'm thoroughly enjoying my new editor, and swiftly learning and >>> experiencing the benefits. As a matter of fact, nearly everywhere I >>> type, the common commands come naturally, and I get frustrated that all >>> of my software doesn't work like vi does :) >>> >>> Getting to the point, I'd like to find a vi(m) community, but the list >>> subscribe that appears authoritative for vim-users bounces. I despise >>> and refuse to belong to web forums. >>> >>> Given that, where can I go to follow vim discussions, without having to >>> bring it up OT here on my favourite list? >>> >> Hi, Steve >> >> Google has a Vim group. I'm not sure if you need a Google account or not. >> >> And, of course, there's this one: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php > > I'm a member of that list which is a straightforward mailing list > AFAIK (Disclaimer: I do have a google account but I can't remember if > that was necessary to sign up). Thanks all, I'll check out how to configure my mailer with Google Groups for this list. > I've found it a very helpful list and I've learnt a lot being > subscribed to it despite being a +10yr user of vim. Even Bram Molenaar > posts there occasionally. Nice to know that long-term users parade around in the list. It then, is much like this one, and a few others that I am on. Before I foray into configuring my email program to work with Google Groups, I have one more (simple, I think) question regarding Vim. (I couldn't come up with the proper Gooliage): I'd like to create a keyboard map so instead of doing: - _dd (I believe the underscore is referred to as 'blackhole') I can do: - CTRL-whatever I have a lot of operations that consist of this: - p - j - $ - i - - ^[ - 3j - i - - ^[ - 3dd (not necessarily in that order)...and want an easier way to to do both 'dd' and 'd$' without wrecking the clipboard which I have saved a yank to. fwiw, the box I'm doing this work on is a jail (with both v4 and v6!) under: :! uname -a [No write since last change] FreeBSD name.eagle.ca 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 08:49:13 UTC 2009 root@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Cheers, Steve --------------ms080600060904040003010002 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature 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(mxsf08.insightbb.com [74.128.0.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7688FC51 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:42:08 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,247,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="743881848" Received: from unknown (HELO asav02.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf08.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2009 20:42:07 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlwTALSKjUrQLicL/2dsb2JhbACBU4pVvk2MUYQYBYFP X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,247,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="326299999" Received: from 208-46-39-11.dia.static.qwest.net (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([208.46.39.11]) by asavout02.manage.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2009 20:42:06 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:42:05 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.0 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.0; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200908202042.05641.freebsd@insightbb.com> Cc: Subject: Superkaramba themes multiply X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:42:08 -0000 Every time I restart X windows, my superkaramba themes double. I'm running freebsd 7.2p3, kde4.3.0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 00:47:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC31A1065692 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f210.google.com (mail-fx0-f210.google.com [209.85.220.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800678FC64 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so212367fxm.43 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:47:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FW/jv4XGIXI4LUjgXdaG5vrirhnvqvl85S97mwrMJZg=; b=QeTadbaxA+3DpXwEKy5rZipGAXD+9ns+3/G6q87/vWS6oJerD/iqCL72U19ev8Wthm /HGdrfiqacYiry6K/DS5B0Zf+9p9GODJl8SWsWGa7yvVHnBDk9a8Lim4zDT/YwyRnpvg ek5oc9Z5wVq5FoQefxYCKhZ+91o1tFeVwFdi4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=MgS4t7Q9e7jEVm4BFdCn1ez4BNKP9MCk8idhn87Rsctk+iNATZGeQG2Yj3+u9vQeew 7oPB/SCtFhx34f1zPg0vEsv8bBASzT6RWtyZ4Re15W/2Fzl5WfuK4U0KIfuH/QVDxixn Krdt1hl4SeHHCGwd5sZtgpmtDFxqr5pZeWXUI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.200 with SMTP id l8mr49045hbe.83.1250815668506; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:47:48 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ml@infosec.pl Subject: Re: switching from one network interface to another without reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:47:50 -0000 Michal wrote: >Mel Flynn wrote: >> If these are on the same network (like most wireless routers), it can pay off >> to use lagg(4) and then simply unplug the cable. Plug it back in and it will >> use the cable again. You would need: >In my case usually it's some testing environment so I needed more of a >quick kludge. But thats very interesting idea for my home network, I'll >definitely have to check it out, thanks! And of course, you can also automate this via devd.conf(5), by instructing the system to run the rc.d scripts or other commands/scripts if one of your NICs is attached/detached, or upon other conditions. There are related examples in the devd.conf(5) manpage and the default /etc/devd.conf b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 01:18:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F67106568D for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960AF8FC65 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so221894bwz.43 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:18:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iWQUxZQyMrSPtcmtreC8+EyT9cdxdyl2ZCXOUvgUbTo=; b=cwaxP3FrwzfdMu1ZDNVyEGdMw7mLiMBDRc7qJ6u37KkbK7Eza2mOoyviyvApXbNu6f TiybzJ/cxvNEZBAE7Gf/HaJZch8M+urJ/ZocE5IhM9ugo08a5Kyli7v8LMe9i/aSV1xU aKkNSSiQnmxNCHmbZ+zpbmhhaK8jFymqsg2wc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=e027BvjdnYaG2ISg0CnBNoZpMhwWh9mdvxRY3lqVrmAhfTGJAj3LJO0cKGw2ZIJvkF ImhfywRnBm3/lSBaj1qNV2PesydP/bK1mU6aNKJ8D71T+zVKkumhtu252vxyCG4tH+to rbReB1cQFosROytHvLrPRVJWnFVH847MwABKU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.202 with SMTP id q10mr48346hbd.129.1250817517332; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:18:37 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: af.gourmet@videotron.ca Subject: Re: installation sequence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:18:39 -0000 >Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is >to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? This is supposed to be automated, but of course things can sometimes go wrong, either through hardware problems, user-error, or an error in Ports. >I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, >cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time >to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved >by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... >usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an >ordered universe! >But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty >minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with >a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and >a number of pretty cumbersome applications. >I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan >and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for >those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. >So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been >installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and >mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't >compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to >ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation >"undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up >with Error code 1. It sounds like a missing header, but you need to tell us more before we can attempt to figure out why. Don't spend a lot of time and energy paraphrasing what happened, but rather include the end of a build transcript with your message, beginning a few lines above where the first error appeared. You can cut-and-paste, or use script1) to capture the output, or whatever -- but we need to see the _exact_ output. Also include a list of the ports that you have installed now, and the OPTIONS settings, if any, of the port and the ports that it depends upon. Also check to see when you are installing a new port that: 1) you are using a up-to-date ports tree and INDEX file (or at least a snapshot that has no known errors), and an up-to-date portsdb and pkgdb if you are using portupgrade; 2) all of your currently installed ports are up-to-date (or at least consistent with your ports tree); 3) you are starting with clean work directories for the port that you want to build and install, and all ports that will also need to be build and installed as missing dependencies; 4) your installed ports and base system have not been corrupted; 5) you have no known hardware problems, like bad memory or a malfunctioning hard drive. And you know, you don't have to build from source -- you could just download and install prebuilt binary packages, either from FreeBSD Ports or some other packaging system... b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 01:29:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E280B106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D9F8FC16 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so224677bwz.43 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:29:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Hqw+HDCeDiX5i5JuyKgpG1Sde4iDeI4tPUGJSBNE1l8=; b=inlhwdN+LSEVybFiQLEU/VjC4sXQevy7gkabA+k0vhBn837/izqr23b3vdsnaMgwl0 lGSq85YV9PP+NyI5hK+qFNInnisOv4wdwGyXBZ56r7eejG/snSyXYUf6HXlioGbbxyC1 Tu2Gwfz5VHshWZS277vjbAi7Hw8pKN9w901xM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=pwBf3HuEtdA4h4pqeOvPh/wrKKtjv/OyeY6qJRNVT/hqhoiKg+0L92ltxJIa/aaW6b vPVHKMazVny0gwlVVsl/TTEzeAjy+ZzgJa0PhhrPtl3I2pHomKLonNy6bI7Ps9ndY0Yi S8KvvPTYqSQPZ/xpTPpjR5FFX/7Iq/dDMvK6w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.200 with SMTP id l8mr52522hbe.83.1250818166901; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:29:26 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: installation sequence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:29:29 -0000 Lane Holcombe wrote: >Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so: > >portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror > >You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will >have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the >whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be >ready when you need it. It's good advice to make sure that you are using a base system and ports tree that are up-to-date, or at least contemporaneous and from a stable snapshot. But it seems to me to be overkill to ask someone who is having trouble installing ports to mirror the FreeBSD repository. Snapshots downloaded per the instructions in the FreeBSD Handbook ought to be enough for most people. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 02:36:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA7E106568C for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:36:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from archon@silvertree.org) Received: from arthur.silvertree.org (arthur.silvertree.org [173.11.101.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0C4B8FC51 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1260 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2009 19:36:33 -0700 Received: from arthur.silvertree.org (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (173.11.101.153) by arthur.silvertree.org with SMTP; 20 Aug 2009 19:36:33 -0700 Message-ID: <4A8E0837.5020608@silvertree.org> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:36:39 -0700 From: Scott Schappell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <00B06063-9872-4ACE-8767-1221C22E33EE@silvertree.org> <200908201442.06321.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <465A1012-147B-449A-992A-91C1458EDB3F@silvertree.org> <200908201531.06222.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200908201531.06222.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:36:34 -0000 On 8/20/2009 4:31 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html OK, /backup was mounted read only, I did the following umount /backup mount -o rw /backup [root@arthur ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/backup/testfile bs=1024 dd: /backup/testfile: end of device 21122+0 records in 21121+0 records out 21627904 bytes transferred in 2.215991 secs (9759924 bytes/sec) [root@arthur ~]# You can see by that snippet it barfed at 21627094 bytes (21 megabytes, ish). /backup has 100s of GiB free. Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 9.7G 453M 8.5G 5% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/ad0s1d 15G 481M 13G 4% /var /dev/ad0s1e 15G 3.1G 10G 23% /usr /dev/ad0s1f 15G 1.4G 12G 10% /usr/local /dev/ad0s1g 216G 3.5G 195G 2% /home /dev/ad2s1d 226G 32G 176G 15% /backup I cannot get the system to generate a dump, even though dumpon verified it's set to the swap drive but /var/crash stays empty. I have dumpdev=AUTO in rc.conf and dumpdir=/var/crash as well. Could this have anything to do with how I added the drive? I followed the handbook instructions but maybe I messed it up. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 02:40:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0A5106568C for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from archon@silvertree.org) Received: from arthur.silvertree.org (arthur.silvertree.org [173.11.101.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8276D8FC60 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:40:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1430 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2009 19:40:22 -0700 Received: from arthur.silvertree.org (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (173.11.101.153) by arthur.silvertree.org with SMTP; 20 Aug 2009 19:40:22 -0700 Message-ID: <4A8E091B.9050408@silvertree.org> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:40:27 -0700 From: Scott Schappell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <00B06063-9872-4ACE-8767-1221C22E33EE@silvertree.org> <200908201442.06321.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <465A1012-147B-449A-992A-91C1458EDB3F@silvertree.org> <200908201531.06222.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A8E0837.5020608@silvertree.org> In-Reply-To: <4A8E0837.5020608@silvertree.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:40:55 -0000 On 8/20/2009 7:36 PM, Scott Schappell wrote: > On 8/20/2009 4:31 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html >> > > OK, /backup was mounted read only, I did the following > > umount /backup > mount -o rw /backup > [root@arthur ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/backup/testfile bs=1024 > dd: /backup/testfile: end of device > 21122+0 records in > 21121+0 records out > 21627904 bytes transferred in 2.215991 secs (9759924 bytes/sec) > [root@arthur ~]# > As of now, the dd command above has not crashed and it's past 3 GiB, using the mount -u -w syntax versus unmount, mount -o rw. This is puzzling. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 02:44:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C09106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stewhouston@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f180.google.com (mail-vw0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E271B8FC16 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws10 with SMTP id 10so381446vws.7 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:44:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=mFB7N+PlkBN8XMPZ+BWIoaZGARGEZLJYLFl+xEgBCKI=; b=H4y2aQX+ZgsaFr/mbpNdGutlLFXwqOSg1BrKXhgACpLvt/gEcQviHKqe1jCPIdjaee qDOTSXsGFlR2UyZLwh55hHNlWR55QJcJRqh/WSJvmyTmxUswJS1zLxTfZDhW8cBxiEgz QqG5DGCqo1EeoLJUzRl/F4zgUl3Iid7XWt8Pg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=BXIioOm5S0l8Nao2rcLxDNsZkedJoL5RVKuxi7SnxCWSHCOvC1RU01Zz3iId/jQGBQ N9Le5s0PS5CWtV48aSvSzTV/n4rB2in26mAvIkAC7H3wp1hQjclasJxVq5Betzf8ZiLX +EZfVn0KlSAMFvxReVOLoqS/skiW7Wz5tfW6g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.68.134 with SMTP id v6mr953798vci.4.1250822652235; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:44:12 -0400 Message-ID: <5a1fc34c0908201944g63f45b7ar1d53149fd5029a95@mail.gmail.com> From: Stew Houston To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:44:13 -0000 Setting up a chroot jail I accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 instead of copying it. Bash would no longer take any commands, though I can't remember the error I was getting (it was aborting.) I rebooted, hoping I could do something in Single User Mode; but to no avail. Is there a way I can undo this blunder? Stew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 02:55:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A803F106568D for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:55:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F5F8FC16 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:55:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so245866bwz.43 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:55:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6wuwuxFW7lKO8zN4h+Ien2tRHbKasIxpevsrgLX5rtg=; b=K/fFQsiv0QqDUDfxxNzVybRsSOBUnO+DkoyT6PJeIOkDKIzNqdpWwa6Ixy4PfdfgMK y44kSrzvseN73tqqGScSUxLGaVObAkz/U5dWHcODs7WAUns8kbRxa7IW9VIs0kZ/DLSO dU8FX0Byy1i7oHsO8NwftZT9mj9x1X9sNsX3A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JXu7cRXQ8Ioq+BOjlUEs1wVRQ98QqEuaGNS2iU/VKpxGpd8EMA2wiWT6H2DclinMsR gvdpxIp2ZRYQEhxLsT1SaryE2wX6CCyHp9bq6fAlEHp8rRHHfTwsuy1RcxORfYP9xkRU pECe7GW4Q3Mz2EyhrqDwIOI78KIiRWLBGf/QY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.143.18 with SMTP id s18mr113477fau.71.1250823322935; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:55:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5a1fc34c0908201944g63f45b7ar1d53149fd5029a95@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a1fc34c0908201944g63f45b7ar1d53149fd5029a95@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:55:22 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310908201955q16b2915ft40c24d2c0ef917c@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Stew Houston Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:55:24 -0000 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Stew Houston wrote= : > Setting up a chroot jail I accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 instea= d > of copying it. =A0Bash would no longer take any commands, though I can't > remember the error I was getting (it was aborting.) =A0I rebooted, hoping= I > could do something in Single User Mode; but to no avail. =A0Is there a wa= y I > can undo this blunder? > When entering single user mode, you should be prompted with an option to select a shell. You should be able to use /bin/csh. Worst case, you can use /rescue/csh. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 02:58:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35F6106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:58:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDFA8FC3F for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7L2wQ0B047597; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:58:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:58:26 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Joe Snikeris In-Reply-To: <20090821000540.950AD10656E6@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20090821123138.M90928@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090821000540.950AD10656E6@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suspend/Resume on Thinkpad x40 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:58:31 -0000 On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:03:29 -0500 Joe Snikeris wrote: > First off, I apologize if this is not the right forum for this > question. I was torn between posting this in mobile, ACPI, X11 and > here. If I might get a better response in one of those forums, please > let me know and I'll post there instead. I suspect -mobile might be the best list for this one, perhaps -acpi but that's usually more about development than usage. You might try searching the archives of either for mention of the X40. > I'm having some trouble getting the kinks worked out of the > suspend/resume functionality on my laptop, an IBM Thinkpad X40. It is > mostly working now, but I am still experiencing some strange behavior. > I can suspend and resume from a console just fine (except for the > fact that the console comes up blank and only displays new > characters); however, suspending and resuming in X is problematic. > > The first suspend and resume in X works perfectly, but the next time I > hit suspend, the machine locks up while still displaying whatever I > was doing in X. Note that if I switch to a virtual terminal before > hitting suspend, this problem does not occur. Does anyone have any > suggestions on what I might do to get this resolved? The details of > my machine follows; please let me know if any additional information > would be helpful. My T23 requires hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=1 to suspend/resume cleanly (7.0), so does my old Compaq Armada (but that's APM, not ACPI) > > uname -a > FreeBSD sussman.snikeris.com 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: > Wed Jun 24 00:57:44 UTC 2009 > root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > > cat /boot/loader.conf > # Disable boot menu > beastie_disable="YES" > autoboot_delay=-1 > > # Needed for firefox to display certain HTML5 elements > sem_load="YES" > > # Needed so we can resume from suspend w/ a working display. > hw.acpi.reset_video=1 > # Needed so mouse will work on resume > hint.psm.0.flags="0x3000" > > # Possibly needed for successful resume > hint.apic.0.disabled=1 That might be one to try either way, with other combinations. > # Needed for sound > snd_ich_load="YES" > > # Needed for wireless (iwi) > if_iwi_load="YES" > wlan_load="YES" > firmware_load="YES" > iwi_bss_load="YES" > iwi_ibss_load="YES" > iwi_monitor_load="YES" > legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=1 > > # Needed for 3d graphics acceleration > agp_load="YES" > > # Needed for cdrecord to work > atapicam_load="YES" > > # See 'man acpi_ibm' > acpi_ibm_load="YES" I've found that vesa_load="YES" helps on my T23 especially if suspending from a VT rather than in X, referring to your 'console comes up blank.' Something to try anyway, and I don't think it ever hurts. > > cat /etc/rc.conf > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sat Jul 4 11:10:49 2009 > # Created: Sat Jul 4 11:10:49 2009 > # Enable network daemons for user convenience. > # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > > # Set by sysinstall > hostname="sussman.snikeris.com" > #ifconfig_em0="DHCP" > linux_enable="YES" > moused_enable="YES" > > # Allow X to locate mouse and keyboard automatically using HAL > hald_enable="YES" > dbus_enable="YES" > > keyrate="fast" > keybell="off" > > > cat /etc/sysctl.conf > # $FreeBSD: src/etc/sysctl.conf,v 1.8.32.1 2009/04/15 03:14:26 kensmith Exp $ > # > # This file is read when going to multi-user and its contents piped thru > # ``sysctl'' to adjust kernel values. ``man 5 sysctl.conf'' for details. > # > > # Uncomment this to prevent users from seeing information about processes that > # are being run under another UID. > #security.bsd.see_other_uids=0 > > hw.acpi.standby_state=S0 > hw.acpi.suspend_state=S3 > hw.acpi.sleep_button_state=S3 > vfs.usermount=1 > hw.acpi.sleep_delay=3 If hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=1 is no help, I'd try -mobile .. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 03:20:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2121065672 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from atmail-10.bnguk.net (atmail-10.bnguk.net [80.74.253.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225198FC65 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.54.144] helo=melon.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-10.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MeKg7-0007jl-Ge; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:20:35 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1620AFCA505; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:20:35 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:20:35 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Steve Bertrand Message-ID: <20090821032035.GA41054@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Steve Bertrand , Glen Barber , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" References: <4A8B82FD.30305@ibctech.ca> <4ad871310908182259j202b1a0au82e15c7259a583c1@mail.gmail.com> <20090820034910.GA36715@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4A8DEB4F.8030605@ibctech.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A8DEB4F.8030605@ibctech.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p4 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' Cc: Glen Barber , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" Subject: Re: [OT] Vim mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:20:50 -0000 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 08:33:19PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: > > [snip] > > >> > >> And, of course, there's this one: http://www.vim.org/maillist.php > > > > I'm a member of that list which is a straightforward mailing list > > AFAIK (Disclaimer: I do have a google account but I can't remember if > > that was necessary to sign up). > > Thanks all, > > I'll check out how to configure my mailer with Google Groups for this list. There should be little in the way of configuration required for that list, they just send out plain email and you can post in the same format. > > > I've found it a very helpful list and I've learnt a lot being > > subscribed to it despite being a +10yr user of vim. Even Bram Molenaar > > posts there occasionally. > > Nice to know that long-term users parade around in the list. It then, is > much like this one, and a few others that I am on. > > Before I foray into configuring my email program to work with Google > Groups, I have one more (simple, I think) question regarding Vim. (I > couldn't come up with the proper Gooliage): > > I'd like to create a keyboard map so instead of doing: > > - _dd (I believe the underscore is referred to as 'blackhole') > > I can do: > > - CTRL-whatever > > I have a lot of operations that consist of this: > > - p > - j > - $ > - i > - > - ^[ > - 3j > - i > - > - ^[ > - 3dd > > (not necessarily in that order)...and want an easier way to to do both > 'dd' and 'd$' without wrecking the clipboard which I have saved a yank to. What you refer to as a clipboard is termed a register in vim and IIRC you have the use of 26 (a-z). You can yank or delete to a register and then dd wont overwrite it. Use plain dd and yy for quick and dirty. See: :help yank You can then recall the text from that register with the "put" command. See: :help p As with all simple vim commands you can precede them with a number so to yank 3 lines and save them in register a: 3"ayy and then to put them somewhere: "ap Likewise, you can delete 3 lines & place them in a named register: 3"add I hope the above short demo gives you a brief outline on how to work with registers but the vim handbook has got far more info. I guess it's difficult for a new vim user who lacks the vim terminology to look for stuff. Also look into using macros if you find you are using the same commands repetitively. Have a look at marks if you're not using them already: :help m > > fwiw, the box I'm doing this work on is a jail (with both v4 and v6!) under: > > :! uname -a > > [No write since last change] > > FreeBSD name.eagle.ca 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 > 08:49:13 UTC 2009 > root@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > I'm currently in Darwin, Australia and ssh'ing back to the UK to compose this email using vim on the remote end. Latency is a bit so so but it's doable with vim :) > Cheers, > > Steve Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 03:37:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504D31065693 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mak@kolybabi.com) Received: from mail.nepharia.org (mail.nepharia.org [209.44.104.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E678B8FC6F for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brisbane.nepharia.org (wnpgmb0808w-ad04-94-98.dynamic.mts.net [74.216.94.98]) by mail.nepharia.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 603073F0883; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:21:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: by brisbane.nepharia.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) mak@kolybabi.com; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:21:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:21:35 -0500 From: Mak Kolybabi To: John Francis Lee Message-ID: <20090821032135.GA11414@brisbane.nepharia.org> References: <4A8DD86D.5020208@robinlea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A8DD86D.5020208@robinlea.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: about vbox and freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:37:13 -0000 On 2009-08-21 06:12, John Francis Lee wrote: > My problem is that I'm told right at the onset of the install that > > CPU doesn't support long mode Your CPU is 64-bit from what I can see. From a bit of Googling, others have encountered this problem, and it seems to have to do with VM-X. I have no idea what that is, but a thread in which someone has a very similar issue is here: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19420 One notable quote is: ...[the CPU] does not have Intel VT (hardware virtualization), so you will not be able to run 64 bit guests in Virtualbox even though you run a 64 bit host. HTH -- Matthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak) () ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org | Against proprietary extensions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 04:21:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B574106568E for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:21:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from James.Ren@britishcouncil.org.cn) Received: from mail155.messagelabs.com (mail155.messagelabs.com [85.158.138.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 229B28FC6E for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:21:43 +0000 (UTC) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: James.Ren@britishcouncil.org.cn X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-155.messagelabs.com!1250826820!20099190!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.1.3; banners=britishcouncil.org.cn,-,- X-Originating-IP: [217.205.230.88] Received: (qmail 31263 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2009 03:53:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO G1?GSN2B?MS002.BritishCouncil.Org) (217.205.230.88) by server-7.tower-155.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 21 Aug 2009 03:53:40 -0000 Received: from CN_BJS1B_MS004.BritishCouncil.Org ([10.36.36.27]) by G1_GSN2B_MS002.BritishCouncil.Org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:53:40 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:53:36 +0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: data captured by fprobe but not shown on nfsen Thread-Index: AcoiEr+Q6Pqqjbw9S8mFRnkvYHbhgw== X-Priority: 1 Priority: Urgent importance: high From: "Ren, James (China)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Aug 2009 03:53:40.0065 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8196510:01CA2212] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: data captured by fprobe but not shown on nfsen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:21:45 -0000 Dear=20all, =20 I=20started=20to=20use=20FreeBSD=20last=20week=20and=20encountered=20a=20f= ew=20problems.=20I'd be=20grateful=20if=20any=20of=20you=20could=20give=20a=20hand. =20 I=20installed=20FreeBSD=207.2=20on=20Dell=20GX520=20with=20two=20network=20= adaptors,=20one on-board=20and=20the=20other=20PCI=20addon.=20They=20are=20all=2010/100=20= baseT=20auto.=20The workstation=20has=202.8GHz=20CPU,=20512MB=20RAM=20and=2080G=20IDE=20Hard=20= disk. =20 The=20installation=20went=20successfully.=20After=20the=20FreeBSD=20was=20= installed,=20I firstly=20installed=20Apache22,=20then=20php5,=20and=20nfsen1.3=20includin= g=20Port Tracker.=20I=20have=20configured=20apache=20and=20nfsen=20properly=20so=20= that=20nfsen.php page=20could=20be=20viewed=20properly=20on=20other=20workstations=20within= =20the=20network. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 05:22:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCB3106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:22:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B778FC65 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:22:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DBC7E859; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:22:35 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:22:32 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <00B06063-9872-4ACE-8767-1221C22E33EE@silvertree.org> <4A8E0837.5020608@silvertree.org> <4A8E091B.9050408@silvertree.org> In-Reply-To: <4A8E091B.9050408@silvertree.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908202122.33591.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Scott Schappell Subject: Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:22:36 -0000 On Thursday 20 August 2009 18:40:27 Scott Schappell wrote: > On 8/20/2009 7:36 PM, Scott Schappell wrote: > > On 8/20/2009 4:31 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: > >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ker > >>neldebug.html > > > > OK, /backup was mounted read only, I did the following > > > > umount /backup > > mount -o rw /backup > > [root@arthur ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=/backup/testfile bs=1024 > > dd: /backup/testfile: end of device > > 21122+0 records in > > 21121+0 records out > > 21627904 bytes transferred in 2.215991 secs (9759924 bytes/sec) > > [root@arthur ~]# > > As of now, the dd command above has not crashed and it's past 3 GiB, > using the mount -u -w syntax versus unmount, mount -o rw. > > This is puzzling. I agree. These errors make no sense to me, which leads me to drive cable or physical memory problems, perhaps filesystem corruption. Since you have plenty of space on /home, is it possible for you to move whatever's on /backup to /home, then newfs /backup? Of course you could try fsck -y /backup in single user, but with these weird errors, I trust the filesystem on that disk as far as I can throw it. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 05:24:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EF71065672 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230298FC43 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9087E859; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:24:30 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:24:28 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <5a1fc34c0908201944g63f45b7ar1d53149fd5029a95@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5a1fc34c0908201944g63f45b7ar1d53149fd5029a95@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908202124.29206.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Stew Houston Subject: Re: Accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:24:31 -0000 On Thursday 20 August 2009 18:44:12 Stew Houston wrote: > Setting up a chroot jail I accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 instead > of copying it. Bash would no longer take any commands, though I can't > remember the error I was getting (it was aborting.) I rebooted, hoping I > could do something in Single User Mode; but to no avail. Is there a way I > can undo this blunder? /rescue/mv /path/to/jail/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 /libexec/ -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 05:51:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7662106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FF28FC65 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:51:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so280772bwz.43 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:51:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MDFREXzq8kYA4pw7jAum3n6+DM4aR7++sxJsWWKiI1M=; b=JoRRPG0WcIBIopqHzh2yFuj216IAk6unXsB2IS0SoR9rnqXpObk7S+h//LgHd/Z3un NF7/Bt4q+kAk0EKEAOsTNMBSHhYcQK/sQc/aFKKvLq4JOHFlmVMaZQnnzF9jLF3CQrE7 a6uzy6SqMH9yS9TMAVUljKXu2yWJBOK/WS4M8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Izrhu8bkuUTdrqj1aLPNJ8gHG01DWNYsE9g2GQCDxaS51QwtwlMNi3/rY0hV+s5hrx jsQIGe76GC7p6nvpVfC8/fUINt8sYz9F3oB1eNxfmyH+D5lW82pJVsYNqdcLP7d9JAC4 UvgK6J630n11K9xu4wcD7RL76C9qc+loS2s20= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.54.152 with SMTP id q24mr138025fag.19.1250833866086; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:51:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:51:06 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310908202251m581f1568t5055b00146249e32@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Xorg - Console Flashes when Exiting X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:51:07 -0000 Hi, list I'm trying to isolate a bug relating to exiting X and console drivers. Before I begin, I have to mention that this undesired behavior is not specific to FreeBSD -- I've experienced this with OpenSolaris and (K)(X)ubuntu on the machine in question, which is where I am beginning to really hit a wall. A short synopsis of the problem is: "anything that tries to query / manipulate Xorg causes the console to flash when exiting X, as if the console refresh rate or resolution was drastically incorrect." The laptop [1] I recently purchased has a 16" screen at 1366x768 resolution. (dmesg output listing the graphics information is below.) I do not use gdm, xdm, or kdm, so I 'startx' to get x11-wm/fluxbox running. My $HOME/.xinitrc is minimal, using xset to disable the xterm bell, and starting sysutils/conky. The only common factor between the three OSes I've seen this behavior is xscreensaver or xrandr. After thinking it was specific to xscreensaver, I disabled it, and wanted to check the refresh rate - which is how I found xrandr causes it as well. Any thoughts on how to isolate the cause of this would be appreciated, because the flickering and flashing experienced is most probably bad for the LCD. Thanks in advance. %dmesg | grep vga vgapci0: port 0x5110-0x5117 mem 0xd0000000-0xd03fffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: on vgapci0 vgapci1: mem 0xd3500000-0xd35fffff at device 2.1 on pci0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 drm0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster [1] - http://laptops.toshiba.com/laptops/satellite/L500/L505-S6946 -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 06:05:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71DB106568C for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:05:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89A88FC3D for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670117E853 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:05:15 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:05:14 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A858FC0.8030804@gmail.com> <4A865FA5.1070609@gmail.com> <4A89499A.7040000@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4A89499A.7040000@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908202205.14324.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: A question for developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:05:16 -0000 On Monday 17 August 2009 04:14:18 Steve Bertrand wrote: > Manish Jain wrote: > > You are right. Syntax highlighting only works well with X. On the > > console, to the best of knowledge, there is no way to change the colours > > through vim's rc files. > > Syntax colour changing does work via .vimrc on the console. The > constructs are named differently: ctermfg, cterm etc. > > The default however uses bright yellow and very light blue for many > things, which doesn't appear well on my white console. If you have a set bg=dark line in .vimrc, remove it. or explicitly set bg=light. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 06:27:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D594B106564A for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B926B8FC68 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:27:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.12] (pool-71-109-162-173.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.162.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7L5tNuC047799 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:55:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Message-Id: <69165A28-4E22-4D6D-B21E-1BD4A3025B0A@lafn.org> From: Doug Hardie To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:55:22 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Possible bug with IPv6 ICMPv6 handling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:27:42 -0000 I have found what to me seems like a bug with ICMPv6 handling in IPv6. However, before submitting a PR I wanted to check to be sure that its not a misunderstanding on my part. The network setup. A host (A) connected to a router (B) connected to another host (C) on a separate network. When all are up and running, A can ping6 to C and gets a response. If you power off C and then do the ping again, tpcdump on A shows an ICMPv6 destination unreachable datagram received from B. However ping6 does not report that back to the user. A ktrace of ping6 shows that it does not receive the ICMPv6 response. Its my understanding that it should and the ping6 code seems to imply that also. Is this a bug? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 07:38:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513AA106568E for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:38:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7D98FC5B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:38:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7L7cIpe087022; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:38:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0C411BA90; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:38:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:38:17 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Steven Friedrich Message-ID: <20090821073817.GA21346@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <200908202008.00296.freebsd@insightbb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200908202008.00296.freebsd@insightbb.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ruleset anomaly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:38:20 -0000 --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 08:08:00PM -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote: > I'm running freebsd 7.2p3 and I believe I started seeing the following=20 > messages after the p3 patch. >=20 > /etc/rc: WARNING: devfs_set_ruleset: you must specify a ruleset number > /etc/rc: WARNING: devfs_apply_ruleset: you must specify a ruleset >=20 > This is in /etc/rc.conf, but I don't know what put it there: > devfs_system_ruleset=3D"localrules" >=20 > The man page for devfs mentions name, not number. See the manual page for devfs.rules: 'man devfs.rules'. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqOTukACgkQEnfvsMMhpyV4JQCeKv23FA8A+V8c9jzdj5Ze2hFp ZwIAoJ3ERLMTLW1+kcOJk1N0DbNazqZr =azbk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 08:52:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1828106568E for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:52:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leidola@web.de) Received: from theia.rz.uni-saarland.de (theia.rz.uni-saarland.de [134.96.7.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA6E8FC3F for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alef (alef.lusi.uni-sb.de [134.96.30.64]) by theia.rz.uni-saarland.de (8.14.1/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n7L831mh020035; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:03:01 +0200 Received: from dema32 ([134.96.30.146] helo=dema32.lusi.uni-sb.de) by alef with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1MeP5R-0000GQ-00; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:03:01 +0200 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:05:13 +0200 From: Olaf Leidinger To: Glen Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090821100513.7ed43365@dema32.lusi.uni-sb.de> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908191533v37b60483qc30e5053185b3959@mail.gmail.com> References: <1482051706@web.de> <4ad871310908191533v37b60483qc30e5053185b3959@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (theia.rz.uni-saarland.de [134.96.7.31]); Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:03:01 +0200 (CEST) X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.1.2-14; AVE: 7.9.1.3; VDF: 7.1.5.143; host: AntiVir1) Cc: Subject: Can't boot from install cdrom/dvd ( was ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:52:35 -0000 Hi! > Try disabling AHCI. I had to do that on an Intel board. > Hope it does help. :-) Well, it doesn't. The problem is that it doesn't find the DVD device (which is IDE). But I figured out that I can boot from USB just fine. The image of 8.0 BETA 2 works fine (I can install and boot that installation with AHCI enabled), but I'd prefer to use 7.2. Unfortunately there is no image available and the tutorials to create one all require FreeBSD. I found a PC-BSD image and will try this one now. Thanks a lot, O.Leidinger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 09:24:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04117106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE858FC51 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n7L9OfVq099264; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:24:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7L9Pf8m005589; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:25:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7L9Pe5O005588; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:25:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:25:40 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20090821092540.GA76646@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200908201343.07634.tijl@ulyssis.org> <20090820123041.GA1239@gothic.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash10 with 8.0-BETA2 and Firefox 3.5.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:24:47 -0000 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 07:02:28AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > > > So you should not run it as root. > > Let me clarify: I did not run it as root until after it didn't work as a > normal user. Or at least I thought I didn't. > > Now, having removed the link in /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins and > making sure that npwrapper.libflashplayer.so was not present in > /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins, nspluginwrapper and Flash as a normal > user works. > All these Firefox plugins are a big nightmare cause so many parameters can prevent them to work. It's a pain :( But if you find a reliable reason, something that we can repeat, that prevented the detection of the plugin, please mail me. I'm interested in updating the docs on this point. -- Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 10:50:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF27106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:50:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.bzerk.org [82.95.223.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DEBF8FC60 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7LAAv1r069866; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:10:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n7LAAvQX069865; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:10:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:10:57 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: "b. f." Message-ID: <20090821101057.GA69673@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , "b. f." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:11:01 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installation sequence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:50:18 -0000 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 01:29:26AM +0000, b. f. typed: > Lane Holcombe wrote: > > >Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so: > > > >portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror > > > >You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will > >have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the > >whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be > >ready when you need it. > > It's good advice to make sure that you are using a base system and > ports tree that are up-to-date, or at least contemporaneous and from a > stable snapshot. But it seems to me to be overkill to ask someone who > is having trouble installing ports to mirror the FreeBSD repository. > Snapshots downloaded per the instructions in the FreeBSD Handbook > ought to be enough for most people. Besides, an uptodate portstree is no guarantee at all that all ports will compile and/or all dependencies will work. That's why there are periods of ports freeze before every RELEASE. On a desktop system, I tend to use binary packages only, coming with the release. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 05:00:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FF4106564A for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keithcak@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f174.google.com (mail-iw0-f174.google.com [209.85.223.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C5C8FC57 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn4 with SMTP id 4so212449iwn.3 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:00:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=LfRhfiO7FqnIAeMomJqREVdvcq840IKNzAwFF5QSl8g=; b=VSWsThhI/YQii6OQED1JLlpLiNUyGSgoqDWHFR595WJwzIFYqDHhWOUOaKfftI2ai7 hR8zRTfujSdUoVjtjVFxEowgdDs8Vg+xExoUR7ks4j1egs92FkSVIj2dV0VLdv9mo6uJ 5wHXadR5ErHaNi6XMdV5t1NCWzhGevosBbN4Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hIU7XCW2aYuSZ/psK3LCABIIcR4Plfoheg4YhmoIA5MjZC46qtJjcwMAAuzJLLBhEz y1/D4VPyc+kq8lvr0Y3jW2RBm4M6wRHgPgIsZ63fVxU5zeExxSoJ0rbQ5KYtm138pCqe IV6axm94PCeGLKv1crIJ8rTT5uH7rj+ajvsik= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.32.141 with SMTP id c13mr324916ibd.31.1250829140158; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:32:20 +0800 Message-ID: <1620b95b0908202132r3818c8dn6d73cd9859bca10@mail.gmail.com> From: keith cak To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:17:43 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: enquiry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:00:01 -0000 Dear Sir, May i know how to change the IP address in freeBSD . Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 09:11:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CED1106568F for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:11:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from datatek@ms1.hinet.net) Received: from webmsr1.webmail.hinet.net (webmsr1.webmail.hinet.net [61.220.15.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16AED8FC6B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sg1000-ap-1 by webmsr1.webmail.hinet.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n7L82u82001210 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:02:57 +0800 (CST) Received: from ([125.230.97.220]) by sg1000-ap-1 with ESMTP id BB80D78E3CB733A3BBE22B5229344F58.worker1 via HTTP; Fri Aug 21 16:02:56 CST 2009 Message-ID: <301448249.1250841776950.JavaMail.nobody@sg1000-ap-1> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:02:56 +0800 (CST) From: datatek@ms1.hinet.net Sender: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: HiNet WebMail X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:25:55 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: HP Proliant DL580 G5-installation freezes (FreeBSD 7.2 i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:11:45 -0000 Dear all: I'm having troubles installing Freebsd 7.2 (i386) on a HP Proliant DL5= 80 G5(Intel): The system boots from the Install-CD, and while probing the hardware, = it suddenly freezes. The last line on the console is VGA: ..... anyone can show me hot to solve it? Thanks datatek --- =A5=BB=B6l= =A5=F3=A8=D3=A6=DBHiNet WebMail --- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 11:59:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0029C106568E for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@martinlaabs.de) Received: from relay01.alfahosting-server.de (relay01.alfahosting-server.de [80.86.191.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576648FC3F for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:59:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by relay01.alfahosting-server.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0F76020094EE8; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:38:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=7.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7-deb3 Received: from alfa3018.alfahosting-server.de (alfa3018.alfahosting-server.de [82.197.146.36]) by relay01.alfahosting-server.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA0A200951CE for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:37:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pc.martinlaabs.de (p5B0ECCBE.dip.t-dialin.net [91.14.204.190]) by alfa3018.alfahosting-server.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C052515D280 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:37:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A8E870E.70205@martinlaabs.de> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:37:50 +0200 From: Martin Laabs User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090808) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Status: No X-Virus-Checker-Version: clamassassin 1.2.4 with ClamAV 0.94.2/9724/Fri Aug 21 05:27:53 2009 Subject: g_vfs_done() WRITE error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:59:27 -0000 Hi, I have a brand new HDD and I copied my system and home directory to it. While copying my home directory I got the following errors at dmesg and /var/log/messages: Aug 21 08:49:16 pc kernel: g_vfs_done():ufs/home[WRITE(offset=50879299584, length=32768)]error = 1 Aug 21 08:49:51 pc last message repeated 12 times Aug 21 08:51:51 pc last message repeated 19 times Aug 21 08:55:25 pc last message repeated 35 times Aug 21 08:55:29 pc kernel: g_vfs_done():ufs/home[WRITE(offset=50879315968, length=16384)]error = 1 Aug 21 08:55:29 pc last message repeated 4 times Errno 1 would mean access denied. However - this makes no sense to me for the hardware access to the harddisk. The partition is encrypted via gbde. So /dev/ufs/home points to the same partition /dev/label/home.bde which is the "decrypted" /dev/label/home. (And /dev/label/home points to /dev/ad4s4e) smartctrl -a /dev/ad4 reports no errors (i.e. sector defects) uname -a: FreeBSD pc.martinlaabs.de 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #1: Sat Aug 15 18:48:58 CEST 2009 martin@pc.martinlaabs.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Can you explain me that error? Thank you, Martin L. PS: Here is my dmesg (the "medium not present" error at sa0 is ok since it is a streamer without a tape) Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #1: Sat Aug 15 18:48:58 CEST 2009 martin@pc.martinlaabs.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC module_register: module uhub/uftdi already exists! Module uhub/uftdi failed to register: 17 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 240 Processor (2795.97-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x100f62 Stepping = 2 Features=0x178bfbff Features2=0x802009 AMD Features=0xee500800 AMD Features2=0x37ff TSC: P-state invariant Cores per package: 2 real memory = 2012938240 (1919 MB) avail memory = 1947013120 (1856 MB) ACPI APIC Table: <040909 APIC1950> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: <040909 RSDT1950> on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of fefe1000, 1000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of fee01000, ff000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of fec00000, 1000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of fee00000, 1000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 7ff00000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) isab0: port 0x1f00-0x1fff at device 1.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at device 1.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 1.3 (no driver attached) ohci0: mem 0xfbe7f000-0xfbe7ffff irq 22 at devic e 2.0 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ohci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfbe7ec00-0xfbe7ecff irq 23 at d evice 2.1 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb1: EHCI version 1.0 usb1: companion controller, 12 ports each: usb0 usb1: on ehci0 usb1: USB revision 2.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered ohci1: mem 0xfbe7d000-0xfbe7dfff irq 20 at devic e 4.0 on pci0 ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] ohci1: [ITHREAD] usb2: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb2: SMM does not respond, resetting usb2: on ohci1 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered ehci1: mem 0xfbe7e800-0xfbe7e8ff irq 21 at d evice 4.1 on pci0 ehci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci1: [ITHREAD] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controller, 12 ports each: usb2 usb3: on ehci1 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0 x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 6.0 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] hdac0: mem 0xfbe78000-0xfbe7bfff irq 22 at device 7.0 on pci0 hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20090624_0136 hdac0: [ITHREAD] pcib1: at device 8.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 10.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 asr0: mem 0xf6000000-0xf7ffffff irq 10 at device 10. 1 on pci1 asr0: [GIANT-LOCKED] asr0: [ITHREAD] asr0: ADAPTEC 2100S FW Rev. 370F, 1 channel, 256 CCBs, Protocol I2O atapci1: port 0xf80-0xf87,0xf00-0xf03,0 xe80-0xe87,0xe00-0xe03,0xdc00-0xdc0f mem 0xfbe76000-0xfbe77fff irq 23 at device 9.0 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] atapci1: AHCI Version 01.10 controller with 4 ports detected ata2: on atapci1 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci1 ata3: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci1 ata4: [ITHREAD] ata5: on atapci1 ata5: [ITHREAD] nfe0: port 0xd880-0xd887 mem 0xfbe7c000 -0xfbe7cfff,0xfbe7e400-0xfbe7e4ff,0xfbe7e000-0xfbe7e00f irq 20 at device 10.0 on pci0 miibus0: on nfe0 rgephy0: PHY 3 on miibus0 rgephy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-F DX, auto nfe0: Ethernet address: 00:19:66:db:c0:ec nfe0: [FILTER] nfe0: [FILTER] nfe0: [FILTER] nfe0: [FILTER] nfe0: [FILTER] nfe0: [FILTER] nfe0: [FILTER] nfe0: [FILTER] pcib3: at device 11.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 pcib4: at device 12.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 pcib5: at device 13.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 pcib6: at device 14.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib6 pcib7: at device 15.0 on pci0 pci7: on pcib7 pcib8: at device 16.0 on pci0 pci8: on pcib8 pcib9: at device 17.0 on pci0 pci9: on pcib9 vgapci0: mem 0xfa000000-0xfaffffff,0xe0000000-0xeffffff f,0xf9000000-0xf9ffffff irq 21 at device 18.0 on pci0 nvidia0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_busmaster vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] nvidia0: [ITHREAD] acpi_button0: on acpi0 sio0: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x10 on acpi 0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi 0 fdc0: [FILTER] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] sio1: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled sio1: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A sio1: [FILTER] cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 pmtimer0 on isa0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 ppbus0: [ITHREAD] lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 plip0: on ppbus0 plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ppc0: [ITHREAD] sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ums0: on uhub0 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. uhub4: on uhub2 uhub4: 4 ports with 4 removable, bus powered ugen0: on uh ub4 ugen1: on uhub4 uhid0: on uhub2 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 76319MB at ata0-master UDMA100 ad1: 76319MB at ata0-slave UDMA133 ad4: 476940MB at ata2-master SATA300 hdac0: HDA Codec #0: Realtek ALC662 pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 (probe0:asr0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:asr0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:asr0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (probe0:asr0:0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 (probe0:asr0:0:0:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred (probe0:asr0:0:0:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) (probe0:asr0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:asr0:0:0:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:asr0:0:0:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition (probe0:asr0:0:0:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 (probe0:asr0:0:0:0): Medium not present (probe0:asr0:0:0:0): Unretryable error sa0 at asr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-3 device SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted nfe0: link state changed to UP fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.8 WARNING: /media was not properly dismounted WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted WARNING: R/W mount of /ns denied. Filesystem is not clean - run fsck g_vfs_done():ufs/home[WRITE(offset=50879299584, length=32768)]error = 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 12:01:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4107E106568F for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevan-tiefert@kabelmail.de) Received: from smtpa1.mediabeam.com (smtpa1.mediabeam.com [194.25.41.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5578FC5B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r300-4 ([194.25.41.40]) by smtpa1.mediabeam.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7LBkpf2031206 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:46:51 +0200 Received: from [91.66.98.126] (91-66-98-126-dynip.superkabel.de [91.66.98.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpa.mediabeam.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7LBko1u031197 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:46:50 +0200 From: Stevan Tiefert To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:48:39 +0200 Message-Id: <1250855319.3506.6.camel@x1-6-00-11-09-00-e4-00.search.b.superkabel.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.0 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: cvsup*.*.freebsd.org and authentications X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:01:50 -0000 Hello list, in the last few months more and more cvsup-servers are printing error-messages like them: host# csup ports-supfile Connected to 212.118.165.142 Authentication required by the server and not supported by client host# Even cvsup has problems with them. What does the error messages exactly means and how can I connect nevertheless to them? With regards Stevan Tiefert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 12:01:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E2810656A7 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zetinja@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BEA8FC81 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so159238fgb.12 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:01:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=p7UFOu3v2ykBbF5FgEVbEwBT0chpFxjKvtS/1Vkyepc=; b=IASE7qLuJpA0qsnPaRlhsdqPdiurgeD1WbMVA9wu/85WHq8h3QBQIa3fn6m4nR7To5 SYs27lcTlc2fUG8M/U7cKFu7+FbiMrVLdt2j3B8VUHsxG9R6TKARbNZbwk/cH7ShiuYG xYz6zJbjz8/3kQNoPmL5xFiXiAjS+kjIs6knw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SmyrNkOYC3q7dzjKZx1CD2cLd1dnoy1OV648K0TcjRYryc1LfDnx0HI2ghp2ZqUCMp J8RFSieU8xAOoibmv+iGdQ35LU0RLlmpddylPHb7cM2pmsNB+3uG3gBKVPcPdHeAokeS /c7hzwIrNan9pxOah/4dqbvmXk5a1pEz6dQfw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.154.32 with SMTP id b32mr804419fge.10.1250854415404; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:33:35 +0300 Message-ID: <9a9ddaf60908210433j5748ab93jb32f8c70124225b1@mail.gmail.com> From: Zetinja Tresor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: 7.2 dying with Kernel Trap 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:01:51 -0000 My 7.2 FreeBSD server has started to crash with kernel trap 12. I googled around and most of the topics I found were about faulty RAM or other harware problems. This is VMware vitual machine so I see no way of hardware problems as we even tried to move the machine around VMware nodes to see it's RAM. It worked absolutely fine for about two months, but now sometimes the server lives for up to 5 hours, sometimes it panics in 10 minutes. Is there anyone that can help me to resolve the problem? Here are few errors on crash: kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 2; apic id = 02 fault virtual address = 0x10 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc07d4a21 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc72dec1c frame pointer = 0x28:0xc72dec30 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 36 (sctp_iterator) trap number = 12 panic: page fault cpuid = 2 ----------------------------- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 1; apic id = 01 fault virtual address = 0x6e727598 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08bf945 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc72bfaa8 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc72bfacc code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 30 (em1 taskq) trap number = 12 -------------------------------------- kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 fault virtual address = 0x10 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc07d4a21 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc73e29c4 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc73e29d8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 9020 (libssl.so) trap number = 12 panic: page fault cpuid = 0 Uptime: 25m37s Thank You Zete From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 12:07:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6B9106568C for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:07:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA788FC63 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MeSu7-0004Ky-Ux for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:07:35 +0200 Received: from pool-71-166-128-198.washdc.east.verizon.net ([71.166.128.198]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:07:35 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-71-166-128-198.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:07:35 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:07:29 -0400 Lines: 80 Message-ID: References: <4A8DD867.9020604@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-166-128-198.washdc.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: installation sequence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:07:38 -0000 PJ wrote: > Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is > to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? > I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, > cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time > to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved > by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... > usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an > ordered universe! > But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty > minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with > a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and > a number of pretty cumbersome applications. > I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan > and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for > those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. > So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been > installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and > mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't > compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to > ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation > "undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up > with Error code 1. > > Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller > installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer, > different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2... > I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work > directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is > absurd. Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of > starting all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for > some rationality to this world. > Thanks for any ideas... > _______________________________________________ Not entirely sure this is totally relevant, but I wouldn't install any packages or third party apps when first installing a fresh system. The packages built at the time the release CD was created are already out of date and the ports tree has moved forward. It's OK to go ahead and install the ports tree as part of the fresh install, however do not use it! The first thing I do after a fresh install is to csup the ports tree to '*default release=cvs tag=.'. (I know it's silly but don't confuse the tag=. with the end of sentence.) You have the best chance now for dependency tracking to be dead on, but the chance always remains that at any one given point in time there may be errors. The ports tree is fluid and changes constantly. Usually if there is a problem and the port(s) maintainers are made aware they get it fixed fairly quick and a quick csup after they repair will make it all good again. Also realize that the previously mentioned tag if applied to src-all will pull down the sources for -CURRENT/HEAD. I have two separate sup files for each collection, one for source and one for ports. You can put them both in the same supfile if you want and there have been recent examples posted, you just have to make sure to get it right or you'll have a real mess. In other words, be aware of the different tags between tracking src-all and ports- all. Should you use the wrong tag to track ports-all you may experience inconsistent problems. On another note, should you find yourself in a position where you have two perfectly identical machines sitting next to each other, e.g., you know positively for a fact that everything is the same such as ports tree freshly csup'ed, etc, and one machine is barfing during compiling you may have a marginally bad hardware memory problem. Compiling (especially make world/kernel) really hits the memory hard. I once had a machine whose memory would 'sing' with an audible tone only during compilation. Such a noise in chip circuitry is an oscillation which should not happen and if you continue to operate the chip under that set of conditions it will fry. About the only thing you could try in this scenario would be to add latency clocks to the RAM in the mainboard BIOS. Whether this actually helps would really only be test of the hypothesis and not a true fix. Most memory should just auto time itself by SPD and shouldn't need to be 'slowed down'. If I saw this I'd replace the memory with new, as if it can't operate correctly at the SPD timings it is of substandard quality. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 12:17:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2474B106568C for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:17:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oloringr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922E78FC55 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so1169242ewy.36 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:17:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:x-face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=NWbz4rOHkNFH7NIBOfSo/DUpi3XL3/ltpHNaoqWqwhU=; b=Lcqlggp/vsXAvmYrbpU0LQOGZfO4D4u+CjE/Z2hbzBVHxEkEw1Kj8XtdMp72UsrwkN M5We9o32wDD01O3nz6PV0mrySe1/RAYDaVsQckN3kIf+X19pMokR5pQj1FIlSXHGRfok TPgaShLf9DS7ttOnH3npgldO3rc6wCxhDduoM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:x-face :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=pD2C/7LvFmRsc0m8jsFbD6c2kzXP70J8sgrmeDhRqUrPT6ix45diz7L7mHeaUpNXbX LVzdbeAt6pPwkH/nB4Q6KkCH5/dCGaTtfuzdAoBf/cEr2TdliyM3zgC7PXy6xLF4K1qK wkrtNebwJDn7dOwJ10P7bmen0LNJUjo1D/Zgk= Received: by 10.216.90.74 with SMTP id d52mr187287wef.51.1250855046454; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from media.localnet (adsl202-15.kln.forthnet.gr [79.103.15.15]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i34sm9477393gve.28.2009.08.21.04.44.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:44:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Jobs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:44:07 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.0 (Linux/2.6.30-ARCH; KDE/4.3.0; i686; ; ) References: <1620b95b0908202132r3818c8dn6d73cd9859bca10@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1620b95b0908202132r3818c8dn6d73cd9859bca10@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: %5EDs|At1pm>WE%P0}6)Hi*s, JH2J${69~j)R"Yu'^P9R3#fvi{LmpsCzxvX*38/, kxcUd QVrlS0G,}-ll{||\P]; *'Gz`RTG+dzconmNyDY3rJHBmpEJkFj|; %vZO&~T")='B<; 88~[ Cltx6#}N*E MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart14381435.bDkXI0yqDe"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200908211444.07996.oloringr@gmail.com> Subject: Re: enquiry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:17:15 -0000 --nextPart14381435.bDkXI0yqDe Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Friday 21 August 2009 07:32, keith cak wrote: > Dear Sir, > > May i know how to change the IP address in freeBSD . > > Thank you. depends on what you are using. dhcp/static ip configuration? --nextPart14381435.bDkXI0yqDe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkqOiIcACgkQBPpdVEWKA33SPgCg8621MRXjX9Twcptyh8ZqG++X YLQAn0tZgOGzaGiXGy2lVW0gXuHHdFnc =nw/R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart14381435.bDkXI0yqDe-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 12:24:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFAC106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jochen@daten-chaos.de) Received: from mail20321.bummi-net.de (mail20321.bummi-net.de [84.19.173.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C628FC66 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from donald.home.jochen-neumeister.de (dslb-084-061-217-161.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.217.161]) by mail20321.bummi-net.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3711A6B7402 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:24:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:24:33 +0200 From: Jochen "enterhaken" Neumeister To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090821142433.2f37a87c@donald.home.jochen-neumeister.de> In-Reply-To: <1250855319.3506.6.camel@x1-6-00-11-09-00-e4-00.search.b.superkabel.de> References: <1250855319.3506.6.camel@x1-6-00-11-09-00-e4-00.search.b.superkabel.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: cvsup*.*.freebsd.org and authentications X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:24:36 -0000 Am Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:48:39 +0200 schrieb Stevan Tiefert : Hi Stevan, I connected to cvsup5.de.freebsd.org a long time with no errors. Jochen > Hello list, > > in the last few months more and more cvsup-servers are printing > error-messages like them: > > host# csup ports-supfile > Connected to 212.118.165.142 > Authentication required by the server and not supported by client > host# > > Even cvsup has problems with them. What does the error messages > exactly means and how can I connect nevertheless to them? > > With regards > Stevan Tiefert > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 12:31:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44DA106568D for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10E68FC47 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MeTGt-0005nm-Le for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:31:07 +0200 Received: from pool-71-166-128-198.washdc.east.verizon.net ([71.166.128.198]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:31:07 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-71-166-128-198.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:31:07 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:31:02 -0400 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <4A8DD86D.5020208@robinlea.com> <20090821032135.GA11414@brisbane.nepharia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-166-128-198.washdc.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: about vbox and freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:31:10 -0000 Mak Kolybabi wrote: > On 2009-08-21 06:12, John Francis Lee wrote: >> My problem is that I'm told right at the onset of the install that >> >> CPU doesn't support long mode > > Your CPU is 64-bit from what I can see. From a bit of Googling, others > have encountered this problem, and it seems to have to do with VM-X. I > have no idea what that is, but a thread in which someone has a very > similar issue is here: > > http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19420 > > One notable quote is: > > ...[the CPU] does not have Intel VT (hardware virtualization), so you > will not be able to run 64 bit guests in Virtualbox even though you run > a 64 bit host. > > HTH [snip] I think this CPU does support hardware virtualization. The other situation which might produce this is if the ubuntu 9.0.4 install itself is 32 bit, and the Virtualbox package will then be 32 bit as well. I haven't looked at Ubuntu in quite some time, as I found it annoying, but IIRC there are two different CD downloads - one for the 32bit version and one for the 64 bit version. This is what I seem to remember but it may also have changed since I last played with it. If you weren't paying attention and installed the 32 bit version it might very well explain the error. If such a thing is the case you have two choices. Either install the i386 32 bit version of FreeBSD as the guest instead of the 64 bit amd64 or reinstall Ubuntu with the 64 bit version. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 12:47:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E601065691 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:47:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2A48FC5B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so387071qwe.7 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:47:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.16.73 with SMTP id n9mr182902qca.70.1250858845032; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:47:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [115.127.8.86] In-Reply-To: <1620b95b0908202132r3818c8dn6d73cd9859bca10@mail.gmail.com> References: <1620b95b0908202132r3818c8dn6d73cd9859bca10@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:47:25 +0600 Message-ID: From: Aftab Jahan Subedar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: enquiry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:47:26 -0000 You can do it in the /etc/rc.conf file you can see the examples in the /etc/defaults/rc.conf On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:32 AM, keith cak wrote: > Dear Sir, > > May i know how to change the IP address in freeBSD . > > Thank you. > _ > -- Aftab Jahan Subedar CEO/Software Engineer Subedar Technologies Ltd Subedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1 North Jatra Bari Dhaka 1204 Bangladesh 88027554546 8801552635208 8801190753891 Radio: S21ST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 12:53:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3A41065690 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhutty@allgoodbits.org) Received: from smtp.allgoodbits.com (allgoodbits.com [97.107.132.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBF38FC64 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.allgoodbits.org (pool-72-95-226-80.pitbpa.ftas.verizon.net [72.95.226.80]) by smtp.allgoodbits.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715114E2BB for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mail.allgoodbits.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.allgoodbits.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260B6BA22D for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:35:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at allgoodbits.org Received: from mail.allgoodbits.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.allgoodbits.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QxMbzHzFR+W4 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:35:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ODYSSEUS.ECE.CMU.EDU (ODYSSEUS.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.161]) by mail.allgoodbits.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 531BABA20B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:35:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4A8E948B.5080505@allgoodbits.org> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:35:23 -0400 From: Duncan Hutty User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4A8DD86D.5020208@robinlea.com> <20090821032135.GA11414@brisbane.nepharia.org> In-Reply-To: <20090821032135.GA11414@brisbane.nepharia.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: about vbox and freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:53:48 -0000 Mak Kolybabi wrote: > On 2009-08-21 06:12, John Francis Lee wrote: >> My problem is that I'm told right at the onset of the install that >> >> CPU doesn't support long mode > > Your CPU is 64-bit from what I can see. From a bit of Googling, others have > encountered this problem, and it seems to have to do with VM-X. I have no idea > what that is, but a thread in which someone has a very similar issue is here: > > http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19420 > > One notable quote is: > > ...[the CPU] does not have Intel VT (hardware virtualization), so you will > not be able to run 64 bit guests in Virtualbox even though you run a 64 bit > host. > This CPU does support hardware virtualization as can be seen by the svm flag in the output of cpuinfo. It may be obvious but... Did you install the 64bit version of Ubuntu? uname -m will tell you. -- Duncan Hutty From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 12:56:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17021065672 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9008FC65 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28226 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2009 12:56:09 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Aug 2009 12:56:09 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id E81A45082B; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:56:08 -0400 (EDT) To: Howard Goldstein , ajtiM , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, gecko@freebsd.org References: <200908142121.51522.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4A8D61C6.3040408@queue.to> <44ws4yy06a.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:56:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <44ws4yy06a.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> (Lowell Gilbert's message of "Thu\, 20 Aug 2009 11\:28\:29 -0400") Message-ID: <44vdkhe36f.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: firefox 2.0.0.20_9,1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:56:10 -0000 Lowell Gilbert writes: > Howard Goldstein writes: > >> It's like the cat dragged in firefox2 despite use of 3.5 for actual >> browsing :( Is there a good way to resolve these dependencies through >> firefox3 or 3.5 short of ditching gnome? > > Yeah, it's really from the gecko handling. According to > Mk/bsd.gecko.mk, I think you could add something like the following to > make.conf to do what you need: > > USE_GECKO= firefox3<->firefox But it doesn't work, and neither does the formulat actually given in the makefile. From checkin comments a few months back, I think this capability is on hold waiting for xulrunner 1.9. Don't quote me on that, though; I don't quite understand some of the mechanisms in use. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 13:19:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE3F106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:19:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BF808FC43 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:19:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 43231 invoked by uid 89); 21 Aug 2009 13:20:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 21 Aug 2009 13:20:51 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8E9EF9.8020107@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:19:53 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: keith cak References: <1620b95b0908202132r3818c8dn6d73cd9859bca10@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1620b95b0908202132r3818c8dn6d73cd9859bca10@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms050502010907000208020309" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: enquiry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:19:59 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050502010907000208020309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit keith cak wrote: > Dear Sir, > > May i know how to change the IP address in freeBSD . If it is a one-time change: % ifconfig em0 208.70.111.88/24 If you need it to remain across a reboot, use rc.conf as Aftab suggested. 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protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200908210924.06069.dmw@coder.cl> Cc: keith cak Subject: Re: enquiry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dmw@coder.cl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:25:38 -0000 --nextPart4920308.FZeiLbdu1F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 21 August 2009 00:32:20 keith cak wrote: > Dear Sir, > > May i know how to change the IP address in freeBSD . man 5 rc.conf man 8 dhclient man 8 ifconfig > > Thank you. > [SNIP] Best regards, =2D-=20 .O. | Daniel Molina Wegener | FreeBSD & Linux ..O | dmw [at] coder [dot] cl | Open Standards OOO | http://coder.cl/ | FOSS Developer --nextPart4920308.FZeiLbdu1F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAABCgAGBQJKjp/wAAoJEHxqfq6Y4O5NYxQP/iSpTf3DZy9lJ9Rsj4eVfrnM FZMgpWumvwzE3r/zIzWiV/kgUL4852XjTc0W4AQAkD9YjIFq3UNScTcYmCaH75vh TCsLh5LDIL/KRd6YOV5UDIpcs5WFBAWrnRz52D6rjSHHtaWpS3Bxd8ksi3Zosud5 to3RL7rLUuvqiMxyt1Jtrghrfay3+eeQlaGhaVa0LvVh0NvFk56Chz2fUu7ldmbH vkqqHoSWv73BDhd+F4WVSk8pSFwnRp/CTkjUx/4qt43Tra89JuyXYGIItZD3KJEA k67c+1aYgd6V2pgAoqenhHJ/FDmYmWjpQQDz6u9LdDTVw1kl09SpvwYkDdS/sAZ+ fFWKRJCZwijxjz1rTfL57v/VHFWEIVIZ0YnqLv5L9DJCUD+HPVTIIAawxHYEKkgE xunf7J+ZFSOwRW9KrfBPBs620KQefnzgtU+yVGo4ut+T85VZN9g8Bj4qqubUb5Zg GXIosPY3UPNv4fFLujPUaed15neBruBdGH9arKH+9J88vWtfaYGh1hgJW7KZZgQT o1lGVkp6MdVhWRB7blbYm3kXE3hp1WRoFVUfU5myW+JT9GdXgKYFiTF+2HVzqVsm tgdzFesZdAxpVZgbuNxyv4jvPnDkSXe94V1fGX7oJCRG6fk6p2DlSSQTfRSgfxX2 hHtNBOZ0eeGAw4mRpK3N =W3ib -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4920308.FZeiLbdu1F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 14:58:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6852106568D for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:58:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@midsummerdream.org) Received: from smtpauth16.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth16.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 840508FC6E for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18060 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2009 14:57:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.217.88.174) by smtpauth16.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.22) with ESMTP; 21 Aug 2009 14:57:39 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8EB5DE.9080604@midsummerdream.org> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:57:34 -0500 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090701) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A8D9124.6020405@midsummerdream.org> In-Reply-To: <4A8D9124.6020405@midsummerdream.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: No Device Node assigned for HD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lists@midsummerdream.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:58:05 -0000 I should clarify my statement a bit. FreeBSD notices the channel starting up when the disk is inserted, but it doesn't recognize that there is a disk there. I usually see something like: da2 at hptrr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device once I insert a disk, but I see nothing but the channel start up when I insert this new disk. I've had a 500GB drive in this channel previously and it was identified correctly, so I know the channel on the card is ok. I've also updated to the latest firmware on the card and as expected, no change. So I guess the question is, why isn't FreeNSD recognizing the disk? Rob Rob wrote: > I've a 10 disk server that I am using as a file server. I split the > disks up unto 3 partitions, with a being part of a gmirror for /, b > being part of a gmirror for swap, and d being part of the zfs pool. I've > got 6 SATA headers on my MB, and 4 from a HighPoint RocketRAID 2310 > controller which I'm just using as an SATA controller (no RAID > functionality). > > I recently added an Hitachi 1TB drive to the RocketRAID controller, but > I'm not seeing FreeBSD assign it a device node. FreeBSD recognizes the > drive insertion, but doesn't give it a device node. All the drives are > SATA hot-swap, so I connected the drive to a header off the MB and > FreeBSD happily gave it a device node. Additionally, I already have a > few of these drives in the array, but they're all connected to headers > on the MB. This is the first attempt at adding one to the RocketRAID > controller. The controller currently has 3 other disks in it that are > 500GB, and FreeBSD has had no problems with them. The RocketRAID > controller's BIOS recognizes the disk as well, so it doesn't seem the > card is incapable of handling disks that large. I've even tried > rebooting the system after the drive has been connected, but no luck. > > Here's the respective info from the boot sequence as it pertains to the > RocketRAID and the drives attached to it: > > hptrr: start channel [0,0] > hptrr: start channel [0,1] > hptrr: start channel [0,2] > hptrr: start channel [0,3] > hptrr: [0 0] Start channel soft reset. > hptrr: [0 1] Start channel soft reset. > hptrr: [0 2] Start channel soft reset. > hptrr: [0 3] Start channel soft reset. > hptrr: channel [0,0] started successfully > hptrr: channel [0,1] started successfully > hptrr: channel [0,2] started successfully > hptrr: channel [0,3] started successfully > hptrr0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > hptrr0: [ITHREAD] > ... > da0 at hptrr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da1 at hptrr0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 > da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da2 at hptrr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 > da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > ... > > The only difference I've found is that in the RocketRAID BIOS, the 3 > 500GB drives are recognized with a Legacy Status, whereas the 1TB is > recognized as New Status. Not sure what that means or how to change it. > The sizes are reported correctly in the RocketRAID BIOS. I believe > there is a BIOS update available for the card, but I wouldn't think it > would be necessary since the card's BIOS seems to recognize the card > just fine. > > Any suggestions/help? > > Rob > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 15:02:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F3D10656B8 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A0B8FC55 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7LF2WZ6060680 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:02:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 6+rkAnz10a3X for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:01:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7LF1o61060674 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:01:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4A8EB6DE.4080603@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:01:50 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090716 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Security cams/DVR, using FBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:02:39 -0000 Hello, I seem to have a problem --- fairly small pieces of equipment are disappearing occasionally. It's a couple hundred dollars here or there, but it's starting to add up. I'd like to set up a box or two with a camera feeding an HDD for later review. Is there a hardware/software combination you use or recommend for video monitoring? TIA, Kevin Kinsey -- There is a Massachusetts law requiring all dogs to have their hind legs tied during the month of April. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 15:20:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5B2106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4618FC1E for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd6ml1no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.160]) by pd5mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 21 Aug 2009 09:20:35 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=1 a=8eHv7g2MQ54A:10 a=VF9RaR9bft6c8SsOr3WyFg==:17 a=N54-gffFAAAA:8 a=lvbMJxvVAAAA:8 a=YI42hYJWlBCHvKyYABgA:9 a=09I_qyomUgbYRDU2IfAJZBbT4GQA:4 a=nAPXUAfsBmEA:10 Received: from unknown (HELO proven.lan) ([24.85.241.34]) by pd6ml1no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 21 Aug 2009 09:20:35 -0600 Received: from proven.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proven.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7LFKZPF036872; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:20:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by proven.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7LFKViB036871; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:20:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) X-Authentication-Warning: proven.lan: npapke set sender to npapke@acm.org using -f From: Norbert Papke Organization: Archaeological Filing To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:20:31 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <00B06063-9872-4ACE-8767-1221C22E33EE@silvertree.org> <200908201531.06222.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A8E0837.5020608@silvertree.org> In-Reply-To: <4A8E0837.5020608@silvertree.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908210820.31394.npapke@acm.org> Cc: Scott Schappell Subject: Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:20:36 -0000 On August 20, 2009, Scott Schappell wrote: > I cannot get the system to generate a dump, even though dumpon verified > it's set to the swap drive but /var/crash stays empty. I have > dumpdev=AUTO in rc.conf and dumpdir=/var/crash as well. If you don't have it already, you may also need ddb_enable="YES" savecore_enable="YES" Cheers, -- Norbert Papke. npapke@acm.org http://saveournet.ca Protecting your Internet's level playing field From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 15:34:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B86106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from archon@silvertree.org) Received: from arthur.silvertree.org (arthur.silvertree.org [173.11.101.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91BB68FC21 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1535 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2009 08:34:12 -0700 Received: from webn1.ofoto.com (HELO ?192.168.62.44?) (66.128.224.196) by arthur.silvertree.org with SMTP; 21 Aug 2009 08:34:12 -0700 Message-Id: <8CAF5E76-A2E5-4115-BB3F-6A2EC2FB2503@silvertree.org> From: Scott Schappell To: Norbert Papke In-Reply-To: <200908210820.31394.npapke@acm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:34:11 -0700 References: <00B06063-9872-4ACE-8767-1221C22E33EE@silvertree.org> <200908201531.06222.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A8E0837.5020608@silvertree.org> <200908210820.31394.npapke@acm.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:34:12 -0000 Looking at info.0 I see: Dump header from device /dev/ad0s1b Architecture: i386 Architecture Version: 2 Dump Length: 155131904B (147 MB) Blocksize: 512 Dumptime: Fri Aug 21 08:27:45 2009 Hostname: arthur.silvertree.org Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump Version String: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT 2009 root@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod Dump Parity: 2778312054 Bounds: 0 Dump Status: good This is interesting: "Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod" It looks I'm guessing this is saying "read only file system modified". So it looks like the problem is with mount? If there's anything you want me to pull from the vmcore.0 let me know. Again, this happens with the drive mounted RO from fstab. Unmounted then mount -o rw /backup. Something is amiss, and first blush doesn't seem to be hardware related. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 16:13:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C58106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4C68FC13 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:13:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so277089yxe.3 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:13:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lQpElOFnCJ/jQYdvx4MtHbZS/rf25OyqTtyr43Yz4og=; b=X+gco/2KDCQQ5fK3u66UTShw8laeZKXIEuzve69f22cRIwAwVEMT3G1AM7m6ztXNP5 7pckWgulQbb6dxv3f/pO3Dl5DgtgIqPLrvqTYCys37/wta6+iIv7cfjKire/bYmodezn PSyu78kExZwk1DTp9hoqtiJF1/fgz9M3sIyJk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rOx1nmP/en6+tCuG0Ae0LUlanepyKG6m0SRSFdKwgMzAvnK8dMjmHcBkSMX+WPP7Nw /Rve/KjPEMBu8S9P9/XuHEg1uZvZ9KWw+mfkJT93KU+f+IHYb1eO4OEh16eyclu0vX5Z v1IAbS8632f1zkce2GmLVTmDTAXG1X6ROERVo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.60.1 with SMTP id i1mr1290361ana.11.1250869816223; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:50:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A8EB6DE.4080603@daleco.biz> References: <4A8EB6DE.4080603@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:50:16 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Kevin Kinsey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security cams/DVR, using FBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:13:32 -0000 On 8/21/09, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Hello, > > I seem to have a problem --- fairly small pieces of equipment are > disappearing occasionally. It's a couple hundred dollars here or > there, but it's starting to add up. > > I'd like to set up a box or two with a camera feeding an HDD for > later review. Is there a hardware/software combination you > use or recommend for video monitoring? > > TIA, > > Kevin Kinsey Not a BSD solution, but we use OnSSI at work. www.onssi.com It's a windows based solution, they offer a 30-day trial to their software that is completely IP camera/network driven solution. We've sold it to many customers and I would strongly recommend it. --Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 16:20:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9C6106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2431F8FC19 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7LGK4xr094827; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:20:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n7LGK4xr094827 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1250871610; bh=MX1lt6HzEOEl4SYXlJoEzwpg17L53K53l5IbSKQhUCs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A8EC92E.6070306@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20F ri,=2021=20Aug=202009=2017:19:58=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.22=20(X11/20090724)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Kevin=20Kinsey=20|CC:=20questions @freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Security=20cams/DVR,=20using=20FBSD? |References:=20<4A8EB6DE.4080603@daleco.biz>|In-Reply-To:=20<4A8EB 6DE.4080603@daleco.biz>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type: =20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3 D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------en igA6050D039A00240043DAE1AD"; b=TJ7cqrxVwwGBbYQAjtl3hcc1XvuTehYOLf/byMD/Yng5XvzgNTk9kynqz4Ei8cmXn VVeP9WW2zgrC+7sXy2vUGr7yNJomSRBLbHvnJS7FiH8Uq75BwfMriW7+XsBK5rBv0z ZoNvgmcOAGTkFSBI9Ystb5+QE9ONnslKpG3izhPk= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A8EC92E.6070306@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:19:58 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kinsey References: <4A8EB6DE.4080603@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <4A8EB6DE.4080603@daleco.biz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA6050D039A00240043DAE1AD" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security cams/DVR, using FBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:20:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA6050D039A00240043DAE1AD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I seem to have a problem --- fairly small pieces of equipment are > disappearing occasionally. It's a couple hundred dollars here or > there, but it's starting to add up. >=20 > I'd like to set up a box or two with a camera feeding an HDD for > later review. Is there a hardware/software combination you use or=20 > recommend for video monitoring? multimedia/motion for the image capture. We use it with a bunch of Axis cameras -- connectivity via IP networking -- but it should work with many different webcams. Check the wiki at http://www.lavrsen.dk/twi= ki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome to find something suitable. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigA6050D039A00240043DAE1AD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkqOyTQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyF4gCaAkzgcNkAD0QMm1VoChcBk9qP 61wAn0IWzfqC+AdBjcngYPr/BR5k2LeT =1YMY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA6050D039A00240043DAE1AD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 16:49:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529E0106568C for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C028FC12 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:49:17 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KOQ008I9JJGGLI0@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A8ED00E.5000905@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:49:18 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: Neal Hogan References: <4A8DD867.9020604@videotron.ca> In-reply-to: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installation sequence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:49:17 -0000 Neal Hogan wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM, PJ wrote: > >> Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is >> to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? >> I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, >> cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time >> to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved >> by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... >> usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an >> ordered universe! >> But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty >> minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with >> a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and >> a number of pretty cumbersome applications. >> I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan >> and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for >> those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. >> So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been >> installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and >> mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't >> compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to >> ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation >> "undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up >> with Error code 1. >> >> Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller >> installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer, >> different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2... >> I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work >> directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd. >> Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting >> all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some >> rationality to this world. >> Thanks for any ideas... >> > > Again, not to be rude (to you or fBSD) . . . but why stick with > something that is giving you soooooo much trouble? > There are a bunch of open source distros out there. I can appreciate > that you do not want to f'around with another distro for another week > . . . but . . . > > >From other posts, it sounded like you have recovered the essential > files. Rationality may dictate you moving on. > > The only thing I can suggest that may help those who know better, is > to post the demsg's of the two machines (the one that works and the > pain in the ass), given that they are different machines. What > happened to the "faulty hardware" idea? > > I dunno . . . good luck! > First, the problem is not FreeBSD... it is the idiots who think they know how to deal with a lot of stuff and then post all sorts of stuff that just confuses the hell out of simpletons like me. I made the mistake of thinking some jerk had written a little script that would do an update of ports with csup... well, I did post looking for an explanation of why the damned thing didn't work... and the responses I got were rather cryptic and din't explain anything even though a good programmer would have understood it would not work... :-) I'm certainly not a programmer in the professional sense at all... so in thinking about the problem I saw that the ports were not being correctly updated... once I got that right, everything worked fine. I even fixed that little script and updates are a cinch. As for faulty hardware... haven't found any up to now... I hae just 1 drive left to check and I'll know for sure... ;-) >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 17:01:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965CD106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4A58FC17 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:01:11 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KOQ00CVTKLW4D10@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A8ED2D5.30808@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:01:09 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: lane@cd-solutions.net References: <4A8DD867.9020604@videotron.ca> <1250812091.28087.23.camel@lholcombe-desktop> In-reply-to: <1250812091.28087.23.camel@lholcombe-desktop> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installation sequence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:01:11 -0000 Lane Holcombe wrote: > I'm all over this! > > Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so: > > portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror > > You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will > have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the > whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be > ready when you need it. > > Next, when ever you do a fresh install of "FreeBSD whatever," the first > thing you do after the install is update your source and ports try by > creating a cvsupfile, (I always keep one in /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile) > like this: > > > *default host= > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_7 > *default compress > src-all > src-contrib > ports-all tag=. > > > Note that the and tags are put in the email for clarity, > but should NOT appear in your cvsup file. I think src-contrib is > overkill, but I've not bothered to find out because I'm pretty lazy. > > Note, also that RELENG_7 is just what I'm using now. You should adjust > to the "FreeBSD whatever" that you just installed. > > So after you put the cvsupfile in place, run this on your new install: > > csup -g -L2 /path/to/cvsupfile > > Note, again, that csup does *not* get installed with *base before like > 6.3 or something ... can't remember which. Did I mention lazy? If you > are going back that far you have to install csup from ports or install > cvsup from ports. (Which may likely put you back at square one where > you have to work through the build failures - it ain't perfect, but it's > nearly there!) > > Anyway, the point is you should always, always, always update your ports > tree after a new install so you don't have build failures to stump you. > > And you still might get those :) > > So you should consider REBUILDING WORLD immediately after you do a new > install. And THEN build/install whatever ports you need ... Ok, I normally do something like that... problem here was that I made the mistake of thinking that an interesting little script I found was good for updating... but, I was sadly mistaken. The error was due to a badly downloaded ports tree. That fixed, all works fine. I really only have problems when some extraneous garbage comes along and I'm suckere in to try it. Here's the script (I modified it and it seems to work just fine) but I sure would like to hear if that makes sense. I called it update.ports and it runs from any directory. It can be changed to update source and docs if so desired or all could be done from same script. Let me know, please, if it's ok? ====== #!/bin/sh # # Update source, docs and ports LOCAL_DIR="$(pwd)" cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup csup ports-supfile cd /usr/ports make fetchindex /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u /usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF cd $LOCAL_DIR ======= > > Good Luck! > > lane > > On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 19:12 -0400, PJ wrote: >> Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is >> to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? >> I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, >> cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time >> to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved >> by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... >> usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an >> ordered universe! >> But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty >> minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with >> a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and >> a number of pretty cumbersome applications. >> I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan >> and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for >> those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. >> So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been >> installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and >> mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't >> compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to >> ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation >> "undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up >> with Error code 1. >> >> Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller >> installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer, >> different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2... >> I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work >> directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is >> absurd. >> Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting >> all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some >> rationality to this world. >> Thanks for any ideas... >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 18:12:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF4B106568E for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD168FC26 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so1244734ywh.28 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:12:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=PDxNghvk/e8h/ocjGMry9CzY7Kp5lPWj6zMA4Y7NOUM=; b=DeluFcBa/s3AMCDE52zN51RgWC78y7K2N8e6JNe89Xea8QvieDBzeLXWlPOoueQaSe VcCOV7bpClraEwMOTTkaopkDkvwKgCZySJBrevcJu7uhvLhtQVh187+nsVbTHY3w2Xl4 L2UMc9h1aeGsPQ61WSo08jtSb9cWBYbDRCsfw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=xIC7KllTDTI42qsxUbbeiScsjpLdLP1I+uMpW3B/zGH1LEsFIkzGisv+zYw8Fitmfy lFQRVrgvihzab0o1AHKhYUjz396T9+WdrS5R4um/GYKhcZVJzzKf7BaxMmRQLQvl4sZe LEz20K/jgu37G/m11RyX/tZa+mwStCCbdlIjI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.70.6 with SMTP id s6mr1471809yba.335.1250878344751; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:12:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A8ED2D5.30808@videotron.ca> References: <4A8DD867.9020604@videotron.ca> <1250812091.28087.23.camel@lholcombe-desktop> <4A8ED2D5.30808@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:12:23 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908211112j280b4b0cr93e8c86d9a692d38@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: PJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: lane@cd-solutions.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installation sequence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:12:26 -0000 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:01 PM, PJ wrote: > Lane Holcombe wrote: > > I'm all over this! > > > > Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so: > > > > portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror > > > > You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will > > have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the > > whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be > > ready when you need it. > > > > Next, when ever you do a fresh install of "FreeBSD whatever," the first > > thing you do after the install is update your source and ports try by > > creating a cvsupfile, (I always keep one in /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile) > > like this: > > > > > > *default host= > > *default base=/usr > > *default prefix=/usr > > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_7 > > *default compress > > src-all > > src-contrib > > ports-all tag=. > > > > > > Note that the and tags are put in the email for clarity, > > but should NOT appear in your cvsup file. I think src-contrib is > > overkill, but I've not bothered to find out because I'm pretty lazy. > > > > Note, also that RELENG_7 is just what I'm using now. You should adjust > > to the "FreeBSD whatever" that you just installed. > > > > So after you put the cvsupfile in place, run this on your new install: > > > > csup -g -L2 /path/to/cvsupfile > > > > Note, again, that csup does *not* get installed with *base before like > > 6.3 or something ... can't remember which. Did I mention lazy? If you > > are going back that far you have to install csup from ports or install > > cvsup from ports. (Which may likely put you back at square one where > > you have to work through the build failures - it ain't perfect, but it's > > nearly there!) > > > > Anyway, the point is you should always, always, always update your ports > > tree after a new install so you don't have build failures to stump you. > > > > And you still might get those :) > > > > So you should consider REBUILDING WORLD immediately after you do a new > > install. And THEN build/install whatever ports you need ... > > Ok, I normally do something like that... problem here was that I made > the mistake of thinking that an interesting little script I found was > good for updating... but, I was sadly mistaken. The error was due to a > badly downloaded ports tree. That fixed, all works fine. > I really only have problems when some extraneous garbage comes along and > I'm suckere in to try it. > Here's the script (I modified it and it seems to work just fine) but I > sure would like to hear if that makes sense. > I called it update.ports and it runs from any directory. It can be > changed to update source and docs if so desired or all could be done > from same script. Let me know, please, if it's ok? > ====== > #!/bin/sh > # > # Update source, docs and ports > > LOCAL_DIR="$(pwd)" > > cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup > csup ports-supfile > cd /usr/ports > make fetchindex > > /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u > /usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF > > cd $LOCAL_DIR > ======= > > > > > Good Luck! > > > > lane > > > > On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 19:12 -0400, PJ wrote: > >> Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is > >> to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors? > >> I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22, > >> cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time > >> to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved > >> by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted... > >> usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an > >> ordered universe! > >> But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty > >> minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with > >> a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and > >> a number of pretty cumbersome applications. > >> I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan > >> and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for > >> those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al. > >> So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been > >> installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and > >> mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't > >> compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to > >> ldap..."util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation > >> "undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up > >> with Error code 1. > >> > >> Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller > >> installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer, > >> different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2... > >> I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work > >> directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is > >> absurd. > >> Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting > >> all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some > >> rationality to this world. > >> Thanks for any ideas... > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > > Sounds like you're really struggling hard to reinvent the wheel. Why not use portsnap and portmaster? -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 18:20:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C822106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f210.google.com (mail-fx0-f210.google.com [209.85.220.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002748FC3E for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so572303fxm.43 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:20:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LjYZIzBYuuZHcaMCOfmmzoGrUE2mwuyEM/kV4DHI0e4=; b=Qh1eSxX7Q3sv7oHPDnpGuyQUA7mW1HB2A0sbl9ZfIXkI1eBtHeuj+np5nnKuB4xjdH QrYjiDsQX6b4nPCeQW6VGGLkcQIpuSkAip/zUhQkmDSrObXX9UwcnM+txb+FCm9SsbEA pxl/8CHP1mfFcbzxo9+9unVLMsicb7LkXp+gc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=cVKW5sEZHO7pxbTikzXTj7MgbufVypsL/v7Y8IwCfXYTrtmq1kz8uYmNDIQM+9aVMK HjOsTfsrAMT3aHiHxXMBLit8AIWpSW+aYtG9bmf5dn3pD2nOdF5/Pslw/XJfbYfLfozN 7bs2IwXKlV3mu5iGheSKp7FKDOqwdlsyhREnk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.200 with SMTP id l8mr143288hbe.83.1250878814693; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:20:14 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: af.gourmet@videotron.ca Subject: Re: Installation sequence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:20:16 -0000 >from same script. Let me know, please, if it's ok? Well, not quite. >====== >#!/bin/sh ># ># Update source, docs and ports > >LOCAL_DIR="$(pwd)" You don't need to change directories if you change some of the commands slightly, so the above line and the last line are unnecessary. > >cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup >csup ports-supfile The example scripts shouldn't be run as-is: you need to edit them first, or issue more flags on the command-line. For instance, for the ports-supfile you need at least to either change the *default host ... line to use the server of your choice, or issue a -h flag with the right server in your script. (The choice of the right server can make a substantial difference in how long this process takes -- you can experiment with different servers, and/or use the sysutils/fastest_cvsup port to find one that works well for you. Not every server is updated at the same interval.) Also, you can avoid changing directories by just using a full path to the cvsup script file. So, for example, you should replace the above two lines in the script with something like: csup -L 2 -h cvsup1.ca.FreeBSD.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile I prefer to increase the verbosity with the -L switch, so that I have a better idea of what's happening if something goes wrong. All of this is covered in the FreeBSD Handbook. Also, you need not use csup(1) at all if you prefer to use portsnap(8) instead. >cd /usr/ports >make fetchindex >/usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u You don't need all of the three previous lines: you can just run 'portsdb -F' or 'portsdb -Fu' instead. Also, these lines and the line below require one of the portupgrade ports to be installed, but I guess you know that. If you're not planning on using portupgrade, then don't use the portsdb or pkgdb commands, but just run: 'make -C /usr/ports fetchindex' instead. >/usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF >cd $LOCAL_DIR As I mentioned, you don't need this last line. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 18:57:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9C0106568C for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:57:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhorn2000@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5638FC16 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so240588fge.12 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:57:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FTSDUy8K/GCWdWnFNuQBSFPuWofkOV1rsYeZQybI6vg=; b=xXD1Vj555J16NwFTIDNjYVXr0TDzRL069l9IwebJZL57v+Jfk0g1RPrL1QJKU/s6ZR LkRRe3uTI2RlL86XrxddBCZOkQigEI4cLguQ9NdE63xp/3JtCbeXbjeCycwgB2kYK0SE M92Ka62Q9GHXGBil2i9nA7Sjkoo1wEymQ8BhA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fCIB9L/xJunuV8g85fAPIH1LSTV2fv1LfKhXKirRhbPa9U+Orj/ZECFKKhWhozj6S8 A0GvF9Y+pPW8HNyZ94Ye3stxTiYMEdIObDgQFukdTT41eQFS5hlrXjWtZlAv4NEUVKn9 Vz/6Iqz5t8jqVOQTrNKVUu2+Ao1QdZwyK1BHY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.231.5 with SMTP id d5mr1060459fgh.53.1250879589122; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:33:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <69165A28-4E22-4D6D-B21E-1BD4A3025B0A@lafn.org> References: <69165A28-4E22-4D6D-B21E-1BD4A3025B0A@lafn.org> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:33:09 -0400 Message-ID: <25ff90d60908211133s74261676m6333151addf743f@mail.gmail.com> From: David Horn To: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Possible bug with IPv6 ICMPv6 handling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:57:44 -0000 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Doug Hardie wrote: > I have found what to me seems like a bug with ICMPv6 handling in IPv6. > =A0However, before submitting a PR I wanted to check to be sure that its = not a > misunderstanding on my part. > > The network setup. =A0A host (A) connected to a router (B) connected to > another host (C) on a separate network. =A0When all are up and running, A= can > ping6 to C and gets a response. =A0If you power off C and then do the pin= g > again, tpcdump on A shows an ICMPv6 destination unreachable datagram > received from B. However ping6 does not report that back to the user. =A0= A > ktrace of ping6 shows that it does not receive the ICMPv6 response. =A0It= s my > understanding that it should and the ping6 code seems to imply that also.= Is > this a bug? > _______________________________________________ What version of FreeBSD are you using ? Did you try the -v parameter to ping6 to display non-echo responses ? (man ping6) In a similar test I ran, I was able to get the icmp6 host unreachable message from ping6 -v on my FreeBSD 7.2 box. (I pinged a non-existent address/machine off an upstream router) uname -a FreeBSD dhorn-bsd 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jun 24 00:57:44 UTC 2009 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 dhorn@dhorn-bsd:~> ping6 -v 2001:470:7:584::3 PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:8:584:20e:cff:xxxx:xxxx --> 2001:470:7:58= 4::3 64 bytes from 2001:470:7:584::1: Destination Host Unreachable Vr TC Flow Plen Nxt Hlim 6 00 00000 0010 3a 3e 2001:470:8:584:20e:cff:xxxx:xxxx->2001:470:7:584::3 ICMP6: type =3D 128, code =3D 0 The other thing to potentially look at would be firewall rules, but that is unlikely if you can see the icmp6 response in tcpdump. Good Luck. --Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 19:02:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF981065692 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:02:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA218FC1A for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MeZNn-0002LW-Pu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:02:39 +0200 Received: from pool-70-21-10-24.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.10.24]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:02:39 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-10-24.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:02:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:02:41 -0400 Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: <4A8DD867.9020604@videotron.ca> <1250812091.28087.23.camel@lholcombe-desktop> <4A8ED2D5.30808@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-10-24.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: installation sequence X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:02:42 -0000 PJ wrote: [snip] > > Ok, I normally do something like that... problem here was that I made > the mistake of thinking that an interesting little script I found was > good for updating... but, I was sadly mistaken. The error was due to a > badly downloaded ports tree. That fixed, all works fine. > I really only have problems when some extraneous garbage comes along and > I'm suckere in to try it. > Here's the script (I modified it and it seems to work just fine) but I > sure would like to hear if that makes sense. > I called it update.ports and it runs from any directory. It can be > changed to update source and docs if so desired or all could be done > from same script. Let me know, please, if it's ok? > ====== > #!/bin/sh > # > # Update source, docs and ports > > LOCAL_DIR="$(pwd)" > > cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup > csup ports-supfile > cd /usr/ports > make fetchindex > > /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u > /usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF > > cd $LOCAL_DIR > ======= > I essentially do something very similar. About once a week I do this: csup -L 2 ports && portsdb -uF && pkgdb -u && portversion This pretty much does the same thing as the script. I keep intending to make it a cron job and email me the output, but until I get 'round to it I just take a quick gander at the output and if needed issue a portupgrade -a. 9.8 times out of 10 this is all I ever need. Every once in a while I have to manually fix something, but that isn't all that often, maybe once or twice a year. Another thing is to read UPDATING religiously as this can help sidestep boo boos before they happen. [snip] -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 19:33:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D355106568F for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from smtp-gw51.mailanyone.net (smtp-gw51.mailanyone.net [208.70.128.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDFA8FC16 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailanyone.net by smtp-gw51.mailanyone.net with esmtpa (MailAnyone extSMTP jalmberg@identry.com) id 1MeZrq-0005oV-JZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:33:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9F9B85A9-CC10-4793-B38D-4F1E1929BAF6@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: John Almberg Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:33:41 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: What should be backed up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:33:43 -0000 I am currently using rsnapshot to back up these directories on a FreeBSD 7.2 webserver: /etc /usr/home /usr/local /var/cron These directories contain all the data and config files that I use... I think... Question: am I missing anything crucial? Thanks: John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 19:48:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7F8106568D for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:48:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B15C8FC16 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so1317593ywh.28 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:48:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=NoT1OK1k3oquDWvR76yPrCBoACEBOCbUMxCXqoCEYYQ=; b=p5vWKT4HfA0plBDe8Ix95kWgr7VSmOX574L662BswDqXrepRlt8WUUa0S/yO93uajZ lfRp3zXhjWRZR1+PkJujl8RBzwkxrw357r8W0RZqKQ6zqIV7bhPLgINtHEymxHKQeXvj wFdQvc/ErTYKNg9JC68gQrREiRLNicK5tGDXk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=iMeDeE0DsdJQWMTKd07MGy232OPZRqTcysvO5Ho8Tb5UfhmQ/sQgMOBSp4+b1STk6i fXquQR9Nix3icANOgyRVkBqVlkM3AlK8iTknaPdNvzsBEuQt37x1pZvoW31eBrJfktZu KafZuF/rEWTPekPq89e1bvQa+iUZhjFtODPa0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.166.3 with SMTP id o3mr2992402ybe.33.1250884128871; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:48:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9F9B85A9-CC10-4793-B38D-4F1E1929BAF6@identry.com> References: <9F9B85A9-CC10-4793-B38D-4F1E1929BAF6@identry.com> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:48:48 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0908211248o7ab59543i8e7b74af5cc94445@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: John Almberg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What should be backed up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:48:49 -0000 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:33 PM, John Almberg wrote: > I am currently using rsnapshot to back up these directories on a FreeBSD > 7.2 webserver: > > /etc > /usr/home > /usr/local > /var/cron > > These directories contain all the data and config files that I use... I > think... > > Question: am I missing anything crucial? > > Thanks: John > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db can be useful to have around or at least something like a current portmaster -l > ~/installed-pkgs.txt -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 20:17:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41C1106568D for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:17:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank.wissmann41@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649558FC13 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:17:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D28510EBC66D; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:47:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [77.134.71.162] (helo=grissom.einundvierzig.org) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.110 #314) id 1Mea5O-0003BN-00; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:47:42 +0200 Message-ID: <4A8EF9FF.7010906@web.de> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:48:15 +0200 From: Frank Wissmann User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Almberg References: <9F9B85A9-CC10-4793-B38D-4F1E1929BAF6@identry.com> In-Reply-To: <9F9B85A9-CC10-4793-B38D-4F1E1929BAF6@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: frank.wissmann41@web.de X-Sender: frank.wissmann41@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18jwngc1QQCAyHPxnMrbdP3tVZshnmvLSQKEi7N 0bKsG2k4imqb0w0fkxwTGmQAMQ0gaUO3FOpIzQ+Z15LVT5Pbjn UxebXPeUl7axq3uUkl+w== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What should be backed up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:17:02 -0000 John Almberg schrieb: > I am currently using rsnapshot to back up these directories on a FreeBSD > 7.2 webserver: > > /etc > /usr/home > /usr/local > /var/cron > > These directories contain all the data and config files that I use... I > think... > > Question: am I missing anything crucial? > > Thanks: John > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi! As I think you should backup /var/db/ports and /var/db/packages in case your machine crashes and you might have /usr/local on an extra partition. Then you can easily make a new installation without reinstalling the whole stuff under /usr/local. The named directories contain information about the installed ports/packages and are needed to recover a crashed system. Greetings Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 20:50:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84898106564A for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D138FC14 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07398558AA; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:50:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:50:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references; s=smtpout; bh=j7bRaTcbVHo1gfEPey8mrL5I3yM=; b=Std+02UIyib0LoPckE+ZSGYXy+vc6MnFMKI6bq64uKa1XU7IPglM7c364rXnk5JcjVdj/MHT431EHWIY55NRD62JK5UHu34GtQXyz9emQF7gUEdsHG2PXirUeW5N5PTeRNWD5/7YqiEfaHtNPnMch+cW3RQwYU8/UvpKzsJdEEc= X-Sasl-enc: 0kSqs3AQzAjytDR2ggsMq2JuJW0B/7MsvzqLyZbAnmn1 1250887834 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A296226EC; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5A8F63C4-7244-410A-B115-9681709855B5@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: John Almberg In-Reply-To: <9F9B85A9-CC10-4793-B38D-4F1E1929BAF6@identry.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:50:32 -0500 References: <9F9B85A9-CC10-4793-B38D-4F1E1929BAF6@identry.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What should be backed up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:50:36 -0000 On Aug 21, 2009, at 2:33 PM, John Almberg wrote: > I am currently using rsnapshot to back up these directories on a > FreeBSD 7.2 webserver: > > /etc > /usr/home > /usr/local > /var/cron > > These directories contain all the data and config files that I > use... I think... > > Question: am I missing anything crucial? My general advice is to back up everything and then explicitly excluding those things that you know that you don't need. Here is my exclude list from my rsnapshot.conf exclude /var/log exclude /var/tmp exclude /usr/obj exclude /usr/ports/distfiles exclude /usr/local/squid Also I backup by file system, so I'm already excluding /tmp It is far to easy to forget something that needs to be backed up. Cheers, -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 21:14:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9BA106568D for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from smtp-gw30.mailanyone.net (smtp-gw30.mailanyone.net [208.70.128.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5D88FC17 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailanyone.net by smtp-gw30.mailanyone.net with esmtpa (MailAnyone extSMTP jalmberg@identry.com) id 1MebRH-0001PR-RU; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:14:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (MailAnyone web AccountID 542936) by webmail.kcy.mailanyone.net with HTTP; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:14:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <1250889262.v2.mailanyonewebmail-542936@fuse114> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:14:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "John Almberg" To: "Jeffrey Goldberg" User-Agent: MailAnyone W MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What should be backed up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jalmberg@identry.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:14:25 -0000 QUOTE My general advice is to back up everything and then explicitly excluding those things that you know that you don't need. Here is my exclude list from my rsnapshot.conf exclude /var/log exclude /var/tmp exclude /usr/obj exclude /usr/ports/distfiles exclude /usr/local/squid Also I backup by file system, so I'm already excluding /tmp UNQUOTE Interesting... That raises another question... How feasible is it to restore a server from these backups? Is it really possible to install 7.2 on a new machine and then just copy the backed up data onto the new machine? I guess I should really verify the value of my backups by trying to do exactly that! -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 21:31:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B09106568E for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:31:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158688FC08 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896801DB7D; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:31:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7LLVCKG001517; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:31:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:31:12 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Kevin Kinsey Message-Id: <20090821233112.339b6ad7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4A8EB6DE.4080603@daleco.biz> References: <4A8EB6DE.4080603@daleco.biz> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security cams/DVR, using FBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:31:17 -0000 On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:01:50 -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > I'd like to set up a box or two with a camera feeding an HDD for > later review. Is there a hardware/software combination you=20 > use or recommend for video monitoring? There are very simple but still powerful tools. Sadly, you need very specific hardware to use them. First of all, you need to find a video grabber card, usually PCI, that is supported by FreeBSD's bktr driver. See "man bktr" for more information. Those models are currently supported: =B7 AOpen VA1000 =B7 AVerMedia AVerTV Studio =B7 AVerMedia TF/FM-98 =B7 ATI TV Wonder VE =B7 Hauppauge WinCast/TV =B7 Hauppauge WinTV-Go-FM =B7 Hauppauge WinTV-pci =B7 Hauppauge WinTV-radio =B7 Intel Smart Video Recorder III =B7 KWORLD PCI TV Tuner =B7 Miro PC TV =B7 Pinnacle PCTV Pro =B7 Pinnacle PCTV Rave =B7 PixelView PlayTV PAK =B7 PixelView PlayTV Pro (rev 4C, 9D) =B7 SIGMA TV II =B7 STB TV PCI Television Tuner =B7 Super TV Tuner =B7 TerraTec TValue =B7 V-Stream XPERT TV-PVR 878 =B7 Video Highway XTreme =B7 VideoLogic Captivator PCI I have such a card myself, and it works excellently with FreeBSD. Now for the softwar. If you don't need stuff like motion triggers or audio triggers, you can simply use mencoder to record from the video-in source of the card. In case you have two cards, you can use one mencoder command per card. In case you are able to connect one camera via video, the other one via RF (antenna) signal, you can use one mencoder command per input. In principle, it works like this: You tell mplayer to record from the given source into a file. You can specify the codec that should be used in order to have files that are "small enough" not to fill your hard disk within few hours, but are still "good enough" to see something. Refer to the good "man mencoder" manpage for examples how to do that. You would probably use something like this: mencoder -oac lavc -ovc lavc -of mpeg -mpegopts format=3Dxvcd -af lavcresam= ple=3D44100 -lavcopts vcodec=3Dmpeg1video:keyint=3D15:vrc_buf_size=3D327:vr= c_minrate=3D1152:vbitrate=3D1152:vrc_maxrate=3D1152:acodec=3Dmp2:abitrate= =3D224 -ofps 25 -o video1.mpg tv://0 Don't get scared by the many options. I'm sure you'll only need half of them. Finally, I'm not quite sure if mplayer or mencoder is the correct program for that. Maybe it's simple mplayer... --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 22:04:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A229106568D for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=4771fbda3=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9D88FC26 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:04:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,252,1249275600"; d="scan'208";a="15297341" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 21 Aug 2009 16:35:28 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 25CA34EF4A; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:35:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:35:28 +0000 From: Paul Schmehl To: jalmberg@identry.com, Jeffrey Goldberg Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1250889262.v2.mailanyonewebmail-542936@fuse114> References: <1250889262.v2.mailanyonewebmail-542936@fuse114> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What should be backed up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:04:20 -0000 --On Friday, August 21, 2009 16:14:22 -0500 John Almberg wrote: > > That raises another question... How feasible is it to restore a server > from these backups? Is it really possible to install 7.2 on a new machine > and then just copy the backed up data onto the new machine? > > I guess I should really verify the value of my backups by trying to do > exactly that! > I once had a 5.4 machine that lost its primary hard drive. (Was supposed to be RAID mirrored, but this was the only boot drive.) We got a new drive, installed a fresh copy of 5.4 and copied back all the data files. Those were "backed up" using rsync to a USB drive I keep at work. This was a standalone internet addressable server running http, imaps, dns and a pot full of other things - the only server for this domain. (It now has two.) Everything worked as expected, and no data was found to be missing or unrecoverable. We were down for a while, but we lost nothing. And yes, you should test your recovery procedures to make sure your backups are actually working. There's nothing like trying to restore from backup only to discover your backups were never really working. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 22:38:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FEB106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cstankevitz@toyon.com) Received: from smtp1.toyon.com (206-190-77-154.static.twtelecom.net [206.190.77.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADBF8FC14 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:38:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.1.162] (hosts253.toyon.com [65.160.147.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.toyon.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n7LMhDh4030117 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:43:13 -0700 Message-ID: <4A8F21D9.4020705@toyon.com> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:38:17 -0700 From: Chris Stankevitz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Best kernel ethernet device driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:38:24 -0000 Hello, I once had a problem in linux "sometimes connecting to windows file sharing with CIFS is extremely slow." After too much searching, I discovered the problem was a buggy kernel device driver for some lame ethernet card I bought. Which kernel ethernet device driver works best under FreeBSD? I want to purchase an ethernet card that uses that driver. Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 22:50:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFF11065691 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3953C8FC25 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so544113yxe.3 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:50:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DPja4oRPDZSQB78qOHtk9AdQC0uU3e0DYg9AJiN7wV8=; b=gOknUsFNFE3SokneZtjbwZdJVfJXkwcL9+DMKQfGq7h2Bgd+zx4xhk5eFThmLTEW0n wMSlJjO5QH82MzHYb1H9+91EBXd+ERgf42q954nNb+S//ji6hhP5tf2dDl90vsQJ59ee 3rEB26HeMsv9E8Ngo1dZ3HlRK1XWqbfZLN8Hg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O1jWe1PTuvnlo50PWj4Sxw4IH+FLkLQk5MHYTFF67GHkFnksKsgWhcdToEnGbNP18Z A/0hw4S+N1EcHmsA/wW1z1PJg6GSWWe6tEgnnt4veKiqKTeYhw5XuQrbxwPBJqMf3OQK OkG/Gajc5OlXcnYtkLngivAO9gG4895BiBlTw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.75.20 with SMTP id c20mr1858969anl.42.1250895025397; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:50:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A8F21D9.4020705@toyon.com> References: <4A8F21D9.4020705@toyon.com> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:50:25 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Chris Stankevitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best kernel ethernet device driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:50:26 -0000 On 8/21/09, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Hello, > > I once had a problem in linux "sometimes connecting to windows file > sharing with CIFS is extremely slow." After too much searching, I > discovered the problem was a buggy kernel device driver for some lame > ethernet card I bought. > > Which kernel ethernet device driver works best under FreeBSD? I want to > purchase an ethernet card that uses that driver. > > Thank you, > > Chris You haven't searched google. shame. buy an intel, an fxp or em driver is always recommended. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 23:28:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7723106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:28:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stewhouston@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f180.google.com (mail-vw0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAB08FC17 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:28:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws10 with SMTP id 10so985775vws.7 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:28:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=C8gO4PErq8kZTLqHZe9pSzfY+oOyxcoSZ4bakT51oQE=; b=vYNIYQ9wkrl+ElkxSsjLflEsGTkA4OTzVjiBR6JVp88ra48FTwW6WFDpaglNk+YCYK 7UnkR+1dByTL8jptPKWlsfmzmVfeT7aSlIEUk9Bzt9R/zG0YWRCnlTWRTNGL6SZw1aWs T8O8NIDZZwI/Bw+0WQQXdpj6GzHIfoYpusa9A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OJA+0jRdDG+ZYc5b2AcDJqmwJw8WTUh+tbl/iEQHsc0ftoP7eF3fACaMRSjIWH6Nbc Bqcx33nNPt3urOED7cFq0dJjZd4Lyv4yuq5YbWKvu6KIOnpkVXD+cnlWW4CTCRaCbZwo CC2qpcnarwWeD/9LOADk74TeL6IPqaUzUeuuY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.68.145 with SMTP id v17mr1740933vci.50.1250897328678; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:28:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200908202124.29206.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <5a1fc34c0908201944g63f45b7ar1d53149fd5029a95@mail.gmail.com> <200908202124.29206.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:28:47 -0400 Message-ID: <5a1fc34c0908211628t7e58adabqc4aef9f2bb08d69b@mail.gmail.com> From: Stew Houston To: Mel Flynn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:28:50 -0000 I appreciate the help thus far; as /rescue/csh in single user mode has moved me past my first hurdle. However, being the blundering newbie I am, I was working in the /tmp directory, which seems to have been cleared (or is empty for whatever reason in the current state.) If it has been wiped, my ld-elf.so.1 file has been wiped with it. What to do? Thanks much Stew On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Mel Flynn < mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net > wrote: > On Thursday 20 August 2009 18:44:12 Stew Houston wrote: > > Setting up a chroot jail I accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > instead > > of copying it. Bash would no longer take any commands, though I can't > > remember the error I was getting (it was aborting.) I rebooted, hoping I > > could do something in Single User Mode; but to no avail. Is there a way > I > > can undo this blunder? > > /rescue/mv /path/to/jail/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 /libexec/ > -- > Mel > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 23:42:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337D01065692 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7908FC26 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:42:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so663874bwz.43 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:42:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+0T9Ba3k+KiZh6OmuQF3GPSmGEjPBXT3OVMshvhXoUk=; b=Yk/zlMe6TzpZtjwy52VXCUgYoGr8jsXYS2skzcrLEogK/rArpNkr/OXqGVSfzXyR4C HrHpVx7uYqLjyaJ6NolB4nkoqaXZVgk1h/d3R74b50V6hbAQStuMCVSgZ8ytlsZwXY1u N9X8K1/JpXUc3ovjAwRS7Mvrvj46hy+HeoYs4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EPKotygr0MueeGcFLSdz44YJr6pz0lX6X2cDTWLR/m4iJCEWzkknyL0sQOOqZVIQ/S +izlD/SXps/aeLsuSKhsvNCfuF2jn/d3fmkTz6fyUyqKUNjHCX3jHJJ5stxBFHIU2lFo 0G/05MK3sCv4W90zksz32v6aGzm6F7fKf9r6k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.143.79 with SMTP id t15mr435757fau.6.1250898131275; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:42:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5a1fc34c0908211628t7e58adabqc4aef9f2bb08d69b@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a1fc34c0908201944g63f45b7ar1d53149fd5029a95@mail.gmail.com> <200908202124.29206.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <5a1fc34c0908211628t7e58adabqc4aef9f2bb08d69b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:42:11 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310908211642q28d08980y9bad3a4a8dc31239@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Stew Houston Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:42:18 -0000 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Stew Houston wrote: > I appreciate the help thus far; as /rescue/csh in single user mode has mo= ved > me past my first hurdle. =A0However, being the blundering newbie I am, I = was > working in the /tmp directory, which seems to have been cleared (or is em= pty > for whatever reason in the current state.) =A0If it has been wiped, my > ld-elf.so.1 file has been wiped with it. =A0What to do? > You'll have to mount /tmp to use it. On my system, /tmp is /dev/ad6s1e - yours may vary. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 23:52:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A451065690 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:52:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2568FC14 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:52:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.12] (pool-71-109-162-173.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.162.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7LNq9x6080838 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:52:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Message-Id: <93A37662-11AC-4F6D-AFE8-7460A91666FF@lafn.org> From: Doug Hardie To: David Horn In-Reply-To: <25ff90d60908211133s74261676m6333151addf743f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:52:07 -0700 References: <69165A28-4E22-4D6D-B21E-1BD4A3025B0A@lafn.org> <25ff90d60908211133s74261676m6333151addf743f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Possible bug with IPv6 ICMPv6 handling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:52:10 -0000 On 21 August 2009, at 11:33, David Horn wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Doug Hardie wrote: >> I have found what to me seems like a bug with ICMPv6 handling in >> IPv6. >> However, before submitting a PR I wanted to check to be sure that >> its not a >> misunderstanding on my part. >> >> The network setup. A host (A) connected to a router (B) connected to >> another host (C) on a separate network. When all are up and >> running, A can >> ping6 to C and gets a response. If you power off C and then do the >> ping >> again, tpcdump on A shows an ICMPv6 destination unreachable datagram >> received from B. However ping6 does not report that back to the >> user. A >> ktrace of ping6 shows that it does not receive the ICMPv6 >> response. Its my >> understanding that it should and the ping6 code seems to imply that >> also. Is >> this a bug? >> _______________________________________________ > > What version of FreeBSD are you using ? 7.2 and 7.0. > Did you try the -v parameter to ping6 to display non-echo responses ? > (man ping6) No - didn't notice that in either the ping or ping6 man pages before. > > In a similar test I ran, I was able to get the icmp6 host unreachable > message from ping6 -v on my FreeBSD 7.2 box. (I pinged a non-existent > address/machine off an upstream router) > > uname -a > FreeBSD dhorn-bsd 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jun 24 > 00:57:44 UTC 2009 > root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > dhorn@dhorn-bsd:~> ping6 -v 2001:470:7:584::3 > PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:8:584:20e:cff:xxxx:xxxx --> > 2001:470:7:584::3 > 64 bytes from 2001:470:7:584::1: Destination Host Unreachable > Vr TC Flow Plen Nxt Hlim > 6 00 00000 0010 3a 3e > 2001:470:8:584:20e:cff:xxxx:xxxx->2001:470:7:584::3 > ICMP6: type = 128, code = 0 > > The other thing to potentially look at would be firewall rules, but > that is unlikely if you can see the icmp6 response in tcpdump. No firewall involved. > > Good Luck. It would appear that this is an error, but in ping and not ping6. Both of their man pages have exactly the same comment for -v. However, ping does show things like Host down etc without the -v argument. Ping6 works per the man page and does not. I don't think that this is worth a PR though. Thanks for the help. > > --Dave > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 23:53:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC01106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2C48FC18 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1281C1E10E; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:53:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7LNrh4S005001; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:53:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:53:43 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Stew Houston Message-Id: <20090822015343.bad7fdfc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5a1fc34c0908211628t7e58adabqc4aef9f2bb08d69b@mail.gmail.com> References: <5a1fc34c0908201944g63f45b7ar1d53149fd5029a95@mail.gmail.com> <200908202124.29206.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <5a1fc34c0908211628t7e58adabqc4aef9f2bb08d69b@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:53:46 -0000 On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:28:47 -0400, Stew Houston wrote: > However, being the blundering newbie I am, I was > working in the /tmp directory, which seems to have been cleared (or is empty > for whatever reason in the current state.) Cleaning the /tmp directory at startup usually is controlled via an /etc/rc.conf setting: it's clear_tmp_enable="YES". As far as I got from searching for "ld-elf" related stuff, a command like # cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf # make install could do the trick. But I haven't checked this, and I am not sure. > If it has been wiped, my > ld-elf.so.1 file has been wiped with it. What to do? If your source tree is still intact, you could install it from there. It may be possible that the system doesn't run "well enough" to perform this task. In such a case a live file system could help you, e. g. the FreeBSD rescue system or a FreeSBIE bootable CD. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 23:50:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DF6106568B for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usmanbsd@yahoo.com) Received: from n10.bullet.re3.yahoo.com (n10.bullet.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94E518FC13 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:50:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [68.142.230.28] by n10.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2009 23:36:53 -0000 Received: from [216.252.111.168] by t1.bullet.re2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2009 23:36:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp103.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Aug 2009 23:36:53 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 325883.97031.bm@omp103.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 20212 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Aug 2009 23:36:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250897813; bh=dtpvwN9x1jixW1XwIJ3Yx3D7+fo5JrOcZ/6pclGBA4E=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bHboT9IYGcd7xfcNbxr46eCbl3xyZsuJ2kzOLEb+Iyeo2rhijyefr4ACy+9R3Pl1/L0zy5NeDR7GZDuIahLARUGMJLTOuJIKFfb4EFwkJjhMPZ6uuH0bCEk/R2iMUNLdqnkTIJTLn7jqOq0Go5f9R1+Hd3lq/VND+5YtVYw/IB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QmC19OKX6IiUbWmbrJzPuqKarJwJ+YHQF7ORFpR9C+fXFIdgeknRRbYDZfghfadrndPQjOPGvziDrsuY3nj8uicGx57XQK+RoqijKZ+/J/F9ufJ9tpkpGW+mIlXHarDavGNVeRezO6wwJlTApVybl8U33SOdbowkYFv/ktthq0c=; Message-ID: <175230.20142.qm@web56407.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hdxqIF8VM1nEm3A.3KQP44hQVLSUsMcwGstiE58PC7z5X4x.gfr65NtyIdv8Y1hwFJBEvHnMXEajd3t9hjoKRNMBkivVq2PnJOQwGkxvCn4yVAQihrvpwc4v1kz0iRecV4plzqeEc_YlGQGNO46qkSvKkdWCH8QI07T8TDRn5XeGW3rfaTARO7neKe1AcKU8POlhHuYILB6EX7NNNFbpbJiOWVcvSFLWomFuKc0CP445aiLK_xVirJAXewRd2jHZh4U62agu2FCOs.uCwbmNzrP63_Ih5jv2DFmEvyMOnzEfNA08uQVIY._ZPOnL4Tcle9icpge561qXr4ugbh_whEtnqFA_6TSA8pSrOZYwYPM- Received: from [119.152.75.230] by web56407.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:36:52 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:36:52 -0700 (PDT) From: muhammad usman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090715184054.GD29667@tamay-dogan.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:54:14 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: PPPoE server (high traffic in WDM network) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: usmanbsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:50:13 -0000 Hi, I've little off topic suggestion regarding network design. The solution you are implementing will mean to make hundreds of users share= the same broadcast domain. As all your FTTH and other DSLAMS would be work= ing in bridge mode. This scenerio is not safe as if anyone of your clients will start his own p= ppoe server you will be in strange trouble, there can be other issues too. I guess your DSLAMs must have built in pppoe support and radius client, if = its there then every port of dslams can be separate broadcast domain. This = will cause you extra routing management (depending upon your scsnerio) In case your DSLAMS have no pppoe feature then i would suggest you to at le= ast put every DSLAM's uplink port in deparate VLAN and connect pppoe server= using trunk port or multiple single ports. And before implementing this solution consult your DSLAM vendor cause ive o= bserved problems in ipdslams when used in bridge/transperant mode. Regards usman --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Michelle Konzack wrote: From: Michelle Konzack Subject: PPPoE server (high traffic in WDM network) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 11:40 PM Hello, I am using since over=A0 10 years=A0 Debian=A0 GNU/Linux=A0 and=A0 3 years= =A0 longer NetBSD. Also I have a running PicoBSD box. Now I have a problem more grave... I am ongoing to install a CWDM (1GE) and DWDM=A0 (10GE)=A0 network=A0 for= =A0 the Alvarion BreezeACCESS VL (38 base stations) and more then=A0 200=A0 Iskrate= l FTTH DSLAMS of 96 ports (each with 100MBit, but only one=A0 1GE=A0 Upstream= ) each. What I now need are a PPPoE Severs (round-robin and loadbalancing) which must work using FreeRadius and PostgreSQL. There was someone on the which=A0 has=A0 suggested=A0 me=A0 to= =A0 use FreeBSD, because the PPPoE it is already build to=A0 authenticate=A0 agains= t Radius. So, what I like to know is, if I have a 1GE and 10GE network,=A0 how=A0 man= y clients can=A0 one=A0 PPPoE=A0 Server=A0 handel=A0 and=A0 what=A0 are=A0 th= e=A0 CPU/Memory requirements? There is a little problem to get small but=A0 reliabel=A0 Servers=A0 with= =A0 TWO 10GE interfaces. I think, consumer mainboards are not suitabel even someone told me under Linux, I need 2 MHz CPU-Speed and 2 MByte of Memory per client... Please note, that I am ongoing ISP with over=A0 150.000=A0 customers=A0 in= =A0 DE between Freiburg and Karlsruhe (Baden-W=FCrttemberg)=A0 and=A0 using=A0 con= sumer mainboards is NOT reliabel since in the last 6 years I lost at least=A0 20 per year in 280 Low-Cost Servers. A "Sun Fire X4100M2" would be more reliabel... but even the smallest CPU would be overkill because the machine has only 1GE interfaces. Any suggestions? Note 1: Even if I use a Sun Fire, I would prefer a microBSD =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 running from an industrial SD/CF card. 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FR: +33=A0 6=A0 61925193 _______________________________________________ freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 21 23:58:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E58D106568E for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3048FC12 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:58:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBFA1DEE7; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:58:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7LNwuaP005033; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:58:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:58:56 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Polytropon Message-Id: <20090822015856.9ae791e1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090822015343.bad7fdfc.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <5a1fc34c0908201944g63f45b7ar1d53149fd5029a95@mail.gmail.com> <200908202124.29206.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <5a1fc34c0908211628t7e58adabqc4aef9f2bb08d69b@mail.gmail.com> <20090822015343.bad7fdfc.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Stew Houston Subject: Re: Accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:58:58 -0000 Replying to my own message in order to clarify: On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:53:43 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:28:47 -0400, Stew Houston wrote: > > However, being the blundering newbie I am, I was > > working in the /tmp directory, which seems to have been cleared (or is empty > > for whatever reason in the current state.) > > Cleaning the /tmp directory at startup usually is controlled > via an /etc/rc.conf setting: it's clear_tmp_enable="YES". As Glen suggested: If /tmp resides on its own partition, it could still be intact. So mount /tmp and copy the file: # mount /tmp # cp /tmp/ld-elf.so.1 /libexec > As far as I got from searching for "ld-elf" related stuff, > a command like > > # cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf > # make install > > could do the trick. But I haven't checked this, and I am > not sure. I checked now. The "make" command produces ld-elf.so.1, at least on my system. If "make install" doesn't work correctly, copy the file manually. # cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf # make # cp ld-elf.so.1 /libexec Of course, you will need to have /usr mounted if it's not on the / partition. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 00:15:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7973A106572F for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:15:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C47A78FC1F for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 85763 invoked by uid 89); 22 Aug 2009 00:16:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 22 Aug 2009 00:16:15 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8F3893.7060606@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:15:15 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <5a1fc34c0908201944g63f45b7ar1d53149fd5029a95@mail.gmail.com> <200908202124.29206.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <5a1fc34c0908211628t7e58adabqc4aef9f2bb08d69b@mail.gmail.com> <20090822015343.bad7fdfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090822015856.9ae791e1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090822015856.9ae791e1.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030601000306060707020007" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Stew Houston Subject: Re: Accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:15:22 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030601000306060707020007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Polytropon wrote: > Replying to my own message in order to clarify: > > On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:53:43 +0200, Polytropon wrote: >> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:28:47 -0400, Stew Houston wrote: >>> However, being the blundering newbie I am, I was >>> working in the /tmp directory, which seems to have been cleared (or is empty >>> for whatever reason in the current state.) >> Cleaning the /tmp directory at startup usually is controlled >> via an /etc/rc.conf setting: it's clear_tmp_enable="YES". > > As Glen suggested: If /tmp resides on its own partition, it could > still be intact. So mount /tmp and copy the file: > > # mount /tmp > # cp /tmp/ld-elf.so.1 /libexec > > > >> As far as I got from searching for "ld-elf" related stuff, >> a command like >> >> # cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf >> # make install >> >> could do the trick. But I haven't checked this, and I am >> not sure. > > I checked now. The "make" command produces ld-elf.so.1, at least > on my system. If "make install" doesn't work correctly, copy > the file manually. > > # cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf > # make > # cp ld-elf.so.1 /libexec > > Of course, you will need to have /usr mounted if it's not on > the / partition. I don't know if it will help or not, but here is a link to the file in question. If all of the other great recommendations don't pan out, you may be able to boot from some form of 'live cd', and then fetch the file into place. http://www.ipv6canada.com/ld-elf.so.1 % mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt # where ad0s1a is your / on the hard disk % cd /mnt/libexec % fetch http://www.ipv6canada.com/ld-elf.so.1 % reboot Steve --------------ms030601000306060707020007 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIII/zCC AtowggJDoAMCAQICEEs5xg/J3t77QWJ4SatV1HcwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA5MDUwNzIzMTYxMFoX DTEwMDUwNzIzMTYxMFowQjEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEfMB0G 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Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:32:13 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <00B06063-9872-4ACE-8767-1221C22E33EE@silvertree.org> <200908210820.31394.npapke@acm.org> <8CAF5E76-A2E5-4115-BB3F-6A2EC2FB2503@silvertree.org> In-Reply-To: <8CAF5E76-A2E5-4115-BB3F-6A2EC2FB2503@silvertree.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908211632.13723.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Scott Schappell Subject: Re: Remounting a drive as read/write crashes the system and no dmesg.boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:37:52 -0000 On Friday 21 August 2009 07:34:11 Scott Schappell wrote: > Looking at info.0 I see: > > > Dump header from device /dev/ad0s1b > Architecture: i386 > Architecture Version: 2 > Dump Length: 155131904B (147 MB) > Blocksize: 512 > Dumptime: Fri Aug 21 08:27:45 2009 > Hostname: arthur.silvertree.org > Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump > Version String: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 #1: Fri Aug 14 13:27:47 PDT > 2009 > root@arthur.silvertree.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARTHUR > Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod > Dump Parity: 2778312054 > Bounds: 0 > Dump Status: good > > This is interesting: > > "Panic String: ffs_sync: rofs mod" > > It looks I'm guessing this is saying "read only file system > modified". So it looks like the problem is with mount? > > If there's anything you want me to pull from the vmcore.0 let me know. > > Again, this happens with the drive mounted RO from fstab. Unmounted > then mount -o rw /backup. > > Something is amiss, and first blush doesn't seem to be hardware related. There should be a backtrace in info.0 already. That part contains more relevant information. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 00:45:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C971D106568C for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stewhouston@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f180.google.com (mail-vw0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5188FC28 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws10 with SMTP id 10so1011204vws.7 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:45:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UI0mex/JOVwiu4QKfp1vjORc9vnvhxRwYBfiBnlJgC4=; b=v+Ynd2qU1f2nN1TdcGzmx/h5nHDqyG0icgeEYr3XKAnb6BT4aox01cUtDtrG6EONpW F5UdQ4nfy4RSfVIL+GObhRQmbBuOotzmALTPAXdhkNpS23+XrQvMqeLnSZQKutMZvMYt +EaK3Jb7+UZ0y9jQmPw0dUtYLWzwTK9goFzxw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=FJIecHpuBnRtNmx7aYQKdMD6Gbf1yYqBqmlpslMGlmSK2Ezudw3hPgBtF1ikAmnx/X BX2oKeHx2d6XUaZdD1GIBkHwSeghMxoiny1BZER9vEGpG01kIZUZj6svRDVGMVwO7Ed3 MAZa2YbH6E48Dsdj/s3o4Bqcq/GmBrrngr9dg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.79.84 with SMTP id o20mr1826797vck.82.1250901955246; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:45:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A8F3893.7060606@ibctech.ca> References: <5a1fc34c0908201944g63f45b7ar1d53149fd5029a95@mail.gmail.com> <200908202124.29206.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <5a1fc34c0908211628t7e58adabqc4aef9f2bb08d69b@mail.gmail.com> <20090822015343.bad7fdfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090822015856.9ae791e1.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A8F3893.7060606@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:45:55 -0400 Message-ID: <5a1fc34c0908211745u6c58ddd5ud52df9c51e3cbd51@mail.gmail.com> From: Stew Houston To: Steve Bertrand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Accidentally moved /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:45:57 -0000 Thank you all for the wonderful help. I've recovered the file and the system is fully operational. The solution that worked was: Single User Mode /rescue/sh /rescue/mount / /rescue/mount /tmp /rescue/mv /tmp/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 /libexec As I spent my entire youth on Windows, I can honestly say this is the first time this type scenario didn't end in reformatting. FreeBSD is rockin' Stew On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > Replying to my own message in order to clarify: > > > > On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:53:43 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > >> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:28:47 -0400, Stew Houston > wrote: > >>> However, being the blundering newbie I am, I was > >>> working in the /tmp directory, which seems to have been cleared (or is > empty > >>> for whatever reason in the current state.) > >> Cleaning the /tmp directory at startup usually is controlled > >> via an /etc/rc.conf setting: it's clear_tmp_enable="YES". > > > > As Glen suggested: If /tmp resides on its own partition, it could > > still be intact. So mount /tmp and copy the file: > > > > # mount /tmp > > # cp /tmp/ld-elf.so.1 /libexec > > > > > > > >> As far as I got from searching for "ld-elf" related stuff, > >> a command like > >> > >> # cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf > >> # make install > >> > >> could do the trick. But I haven't checked this, and I am > >> not sure. > > > > I checked now. The "make" command produces ld-elf.so.1, at least > > on my system. If "make install" doesn't work correctly, copy > > the file manually. > > > > # cd /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf > > # make > > # cp ld-elf.so.1 /libexec > > > > Of course, you will need to have /usr mounted if it's not on > > the / partition. > > I don't know if it will help or not, but here is a link to the file in > question. > > If all of the other great recommendations don't pan out, you may be able > to boot from some form of 'live cd', and then fetch the file into place. > > http://www.ipv6canada.com/ld-elf.so.1 > > % mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt # where ad0s1a is your / on the hard disk > % cd /mnt/libexec > % fetch http://www.ipv6canada.com/ld-elf.so.1 > % reboot > > Steve > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 01:04:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA91106564A for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snikeris@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E6C8FC17 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so1685113ewy.36 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:04:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qQRMamQR9QKWIk7mxRTh3p9Ku2TNwpsgGUGifmuNS+k=; b=lVxApEYp3w56vvIkvM900ik3JjMHK/szOOE6bQykWGtS62A3WZc2qfI9WpRwDOBOlu 4q+dm3xfAc2btYeDeGWNuc1jEbT7U0raE54+ECv/viOync+7xrU4flJ39Db5vfT/WDnW Hvw6tPfAL25tL7Rq8h2ldSuuNwWSIfyW4TLfc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=h+5fk3OEE46WQxPMwZPg2cxcwqdDl9j5uBqVLEdP6c/9qm4Sh8aBBr71CJBZqDKI9+ WBesd93zegwcaMlpLhzx2DBPZiulLOyxKc/22n/YEhGCBLo2KaShNjwI84/5YfnaLixf hB6/Gj0k7rxdUp4RiT9DU2egzBp8qF1dm99gM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: snikeris@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.74.14 with SMTP id w14mr347040wed.153.1250903062841; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:04:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090821123138.M90928@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090821000540.950AD10656E6@hub.freebsd.org> <20090821123138.M90928@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:04:22 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d29c2c21122711ce Message-ID: <20b8a1c50908211804o25d2c98di20b8e116e032b201@mail.gmail.com> From: Joe Snikeris To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suspend/Resume on Thinkpad x40 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:04:27 -0000 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Ian Smith wrote: > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:03:29 -0500 Joe Snikeris wrote: > > =A0> First off, I apologize if this is not the right forum for this > =A0> question. =A0I was torn between posting this in mobile, ACPI, X11 an= d > =A0> here. =A0If I might get a better response in one of those forums, pl= ease > =A0> let me know and I'll post there instead. > > I suspect -mobile might be the best list for this one, perhaps -acpi > but that's usually more about development than usage. =A0You might try > searching the archives of either for mention of the X40. > > =A0> I'm having some trouble getting the kinks worked out of the > =A0> suspend/resume functionality on my laptop, an IBM Thinkpad X40. =A0I= t is > =A0> mostly working now, but I am still experiencing some strange behavio= r. > =A0> =A0I can suspend and resume from a console just fine (except for the > =A0> fact that the console comes up blank and only displays new > =A0> characters); however, suspending and resuming in X is problematic. > =A0> > =A0> The first suspend and resume in X works perfectly, but the next time= I > =A0> hit suspend, the machine locks up while still displaying whatever I > =A0> was doing in X. =A0Note that if I switch to a virtual terminal befor= e > =A0> hitting suspend, this problem does not occur. =A0Does anyone have an= y > =A0> suggestions on what I might do to get this resolved? =A0The details = of > =A0> my machine follows; please let me know if any additional information > =A0> would be helpful. > > My T23 requires hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=3D1 to suspend/resume > cleanly (7.0), so does my old Compaq Armada (but that's APM, not ACPI) Thanks Ian. This fixed the problem where suspend would hang the second time it was executed in X. At any rate, I gave up on ACPI. I've got suspend-to-ram and suspend-to-disk (hibernation) working perfectly using APM. Does anyone know if there are any disadvantages related to power-saving features when using APM over ACPI? Is powerd able to do its job just as well? > > =A0> > uname -a > =A0> FreeBSD sussman.snikeris.com 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #= 0: > =A0> Wed Jun 24 00:57:44 UTC 2009 > =A0> root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC =A0i3= 86 > =A0> > =A0> > cat /boot/loader.conf > =A0> # Disable boot menu > =A0> beastie_disable=3D"YES" > =A0> autoboot_delay=3D-1 > =A0> > =A0> # Needed for firefox to display certain HTML5 elements > =A0> sem_load=3D"YES" > =A0> > =A0> # Needed so we can resume from suspend w/ a working display. > =A0> hw.acpi.reset_video=3D1 > =A0> # Needed so mouse will work on resume > =A0> hint.psm.0.flags=3D"0x3000" > =A0> > =A0> # Possibly needed for successful resume > =A0> hint.apic.0.disabled=3D1 > > That might be one to try either way, with other combinations. > > =A0> # Needed for sound > =A0> snd_ich_load=3D"YES" > =A0> > =A0> # Needed for wireless (iwi) > =A0> if_iwi_load=3D"YES" > =A0> wlan_load=3D"YES" > =A0> firmware_load=3D"YES" > =A0> iwi_bss_load=3D"YES" > =A0> iwi_ibss_load=3D"YES" > =A0> iwi_monitor_load=3D"YES" > =A0> legal.intel_iwi.license_ack=3D1 > =A0> > =A0> # Needed for 3d graphics acceleration > =A0> agp_load=3D"YES" > =A0> > =A0> # Needed for cdrecord to work > =A0> atapicam_load=3D"YES" > =A0> > =A0> # See 'man acpi_ibm' > =A0> acpi_ibm_load=3D"YES" > > I've found that vesa_load=3D"YES" helps on my T23 especially if suspendin= g > from a VT rather than in X, referring to your 'console comes up blank.' > Something to try anyway, and I don't think it ever hurts. > > =A0> > cat /etc/rc.conf > =A0> # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sat Jul =A04 11:10:49 2009 > =A0> # Created: Sat Jul =A04 11:10:49 2009 > =A0> # Enable network daemons for user convenience. > =A0> # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf= . > =A0> # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.co= nf. > =A0> > =A0> # Set by sysinstall > =A0> hostname=3D"sussman.snikeris.com" > =A0> #ifconfig_em0=3D"DHCP" > =A0> linux_enable=3D"YES" > =A0> moused_enable=3D"YES" > =A0> > =A0> # Allow X to locate mouse and keyboard automatically using HAL > =A0> hald_enable=3D"YES" > =A0> dbus_enable=3D"YES" > =A0> > =A0> keyrate=3D"fast" > =A0> keybell=3D"off" > =A0> > =A0> > cat /etc/sysctl.conf > =A0> # $FreeBSD: src/etc/sysctl.conf,v 1.8.32.1 2009/04/15 03:14:26 kensm= ith Exp $ > =A0> # > =A0> # =A0This file is read when going to multi-user and its contents pip= ed thru > =A0> # =A0``sysctl'' to adjust kernel values. =A0``man 5 sysctl.conf'' fo= r details. > =A0> # > =A0> > =A0> # Uncomment this to prevent users from seeing information about proc= esses that > =A0> # are being run under another UID. > =A0> #security.bsd.see_other_uids=3D0 > =A0> > =A0> hw.acpi.standby_state=3DS0 > =A0> hw.acpi.suspend_state=3DS3 > =A0> hw.acpi.sleep_button_state=3DS3 > =A0> vfs.usermount=3D1 > =A0> hw.acpi.sleep_delay=3D3 > > If hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=3D1 is no help, I'd try -mobile .. > > cheers, Ian > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 03:53:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5554A106568C for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:53:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA868FC19 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:53:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7M3rTWN020810; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:53:29 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:53:28 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Joe Snikeris In-Reply-To: <20b8a1c50908211804o25d2c98di20b8e116e032b201@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090822125403.Q90928@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090821000540.950AD10656E6@hub.freebsd.org> <20090821123138.M90928@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20b8a1c50908211804o25d2c98di20b8e116e032b201@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-541470834-1250913208=:90928" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suspend/Resume on Thinkpad x40 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:53:33 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-541470834-1250913208=:90928 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Joe Snikeris wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Ian Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:03:29 -0500 Joe Snikeris wrote: > > > >  > First off, I apologize if this is not the right forum for this > >  > question.  I was torn between posting this in mobile, ACPI, X11 and > >  > here.  If I might get a better response in one of those forums, please > >  > let me know and I'll post there instead. > > > > I suspect -mobile might be the best list for this one, perhaps -acpi > > but that's usually more about development than usage.  You might try > > searching the archives of either for mention of the X40. > > > >  > I'm having some trouble getting the kinks worked out of the > >  > suspend/resume functionality on my laptop, an IBM Thinkpad X40.  It is > >  > mostly working now, but I am still experiencing some strange behavior. > >  >  I can suspend and resume from a console just fine (except for the > >  > fact that the console comes up blank and only displays new > >  > characters); however, suspending and resuming in X is problematic. > >  > > >  > The first suspend and resume in X works perfectly, but the next time I > >  > hit suspend, the machine locks up while still displaying whatever I > >  > was doing in X.  Note that if I switch to a virtual terminal before > >  > hitting suspend, this problem does not occur.  Does anyone have any > >  > suggestions on what I might do to get this resolved?  The details of > >  > my machine follows; please let me know if any additional information > >  > would be helpful. > > > > My T23 requires hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=1 to suspend/resume > > cleanly (7.0), so does my old Compaq Armada (but that's APM, not ACPI) > > Thanks Ian. This fixed the problem where suspend would hang the > second time it was executed in X. Good to know another model that this works on, for the archives. > At any rate, I gave up on ACPI. I've got suspend-to-ram and > suspend-to-disk (hibernation) working perfectly using APM. > > Does anyone know if there are any disadvantages related to > power-saving features when using APM over ACPI? Is powerd able to do > its job just as well? The answer to that (at 5.5-STABLE) used to be 'no', but there is some APM code in powerd.c, related to how it determines the AC line state, though it's not clear to me if it would require compiling APM in kernel. Certainly /etc/rc.d/power_profile can't set CPU CX states without ACPI. Switching speeds relies on the dev.cpu.0.freq and dev.cpu.0.freq_levels sysctls - are these available when you're running on APM? If so, try running powerd(8) in verbose foreground mode (-v) and see what happens. cheers, Ian --0-541470834-1250913208=:90928-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 04:37:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2E1106568C for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:37:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FBA8FC16 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so727720qwe.7 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:37:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XpW21Y+KGQJyLv/KpI5svf7EZwGJKnpOntfQxkEm4Yc=; b=sish9Nwlj6dyYig22+S1gcM2Q6PjVSRRlS8L1nybKKR8bOhsAYJFWxZzKK0DbBPRU9 RLvakNpHBtmDb7jTcUsvRmSX4yPSv+rFTnu4ph58/8JcQ68ep7E87hLd1WydnlkKjhYI qX0iUTD36msVYu722jV74Zy2sqlSD8vzjSZj0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=xiXntH+umKvZy9uZmtJYbJp54xNF32AifWvO7+HOiH85B9xnP6+Vz/mlnpdsg+3ZEC Ltvz64x34X65twf4z9XfGnWfPX3iJzUNV0+9xXgX7g/Ph0k6FioqtO3tli6TBCs9XRS6 uloiqQnuhp/kPrzLc8oNIK0DMzjAAo1UUlrAw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.54.143 with SMTP id q15mr497899qcg.74.1250915830140; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:37:09 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640908212137s376f1dc8vaba59618a6b71d67@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: /etc/rc.d/named dilemma X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:37:12 -0000 I am trying to figure out why DNS lookups are not possible right after the "named" process has been launched (during bootup). I am kind of a newb at diagnosing these sorts of issues, but as an attempt to figure out what's wrong, I added the following lines to the very bottom of my /etc/rc.d/named: case "$1" in *start) sleep 5 cat /etc/resolv.conf ping -c 4 127.0.0.1 host google.com || true ;; esac And so, during bootup, I get the following messages, as expected: Starting named. domain nerius.com nameserver 127.0.0.1 PING 127.0.0.1 .... 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp..... ... 4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received... ... ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached The last line is what I don't understand. named is listening on 127.0.0.1, and normal lookups can be done fine after bootup. Then why can't I do a lookup right after named starts? By the way, the underlying issue that I'm trying to address is that ntpdate, which comes right after named in the boot sequence, is not able to resolve the DNS for the time servers. Thx. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 04:37:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3927110656EA for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128F28FC08 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m38so291108waf.27 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:37:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XpW21Y+KGQJyLv/KpI5svf7EZwGJKnpOntfQxkEm4Yc=; b=C16ZG7OQJ6AM5MVvwqgtUHzqUg+xNvLQDz2mL4QSG/U43/pqmdh4mE+jNJc4244NPU vdamT8K6NWiflzGdomeBkLkn9Py5BYA0b+JFAZm1gBf0rx63QRq1X6DSmSGzXuqcQmqe P5dVPtn+iplCDsjJa8nCJ29BXYPtnte0vBSqI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=UtYlGw93IvGb25tPDFSQpviiTVCgtGmLu22HMKtuTM/R9Z5JqmR6E8H6baJqWaWESJ BCMRPrh9bYQE6a/8Wr5M64rX+eqK3entGiMEKC+pZzp2EyqDfBM8Njx1DoqWGjGLmTOy zm5MqRRqrwN7WDE+Jb9iKaSvRFKSJSzw/owYg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr2840241wam.61.1250915839056; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:37:19 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640908212137h7bd235bcqbcf6d7a727abf6e5@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: /etc/rc.d/named dilemma X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:37:20 -0000 I am trying to figure out why DNS lookups are not possible right after the "named" process has been launched (during bootup). I am kind of a newb at diagnosing these sorts of issues, but as an attempt to figure out what's wrong, I added the following lines to the very bottom of my /etc/rc.d/named: case "$1" in *start) sleep 5 cat /etc/resolv.conf ping -c 4 127.0.0.1 host google.com || true ;; esac And so, during bootup, I get the following messages, as expected: Starting named. domain nerius.com nameserver 127.0.0.1 PING 127.0.0.1 .... 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp..... ... 4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received... ... ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached The last line is what I don't understand. named is listening on 127.0.0.1, and normal lookups can be done fine after bootup. Then why can't I do a lookup right after named starts? By the way, the underlying issue that I'm trying to address is that ntpdate, which comes right after named in the boot sequence, is not able to resolve the DNS for the time servers. Thx. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 09:55:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFA6106568F for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfl@robinlea.com) Received: from 28amen.org (28amen.org [204.3.153.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B498FC16 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (118.172.72.124.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [118.172.72.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by 28amen.org (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7M9tZnp025422 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:55:40 GMT Message-ID: <4A8FC096.2050907@robinlea.com> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:55:34 +0700 From: John Francis Lee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090806060609090409000107" Cc: Subject: [Fwd: about vbox and freebsd] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:55:43 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090806060609090409000107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got an answer to my question, posted here, from ... but I've been instructed not to post to individuals but to the list so I copy the Mak's response here : Your CPU is 64-bit from what I can see. From a bit of Googling, others have encountered this problem, and it seems to have to do with VM-X. I have no idea what that is, but a thread in which someone has a very similar issue is here: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19420 One notable quote is: ...[the CPU] does not have Intel VT (hardware virtualization), so you will not be able to run 64 bit guests in Virtualbox even though you run a 64 bit host. HTH So, OK. I cannot have 64 bit guests using virtual box. I have installed the 32 bit version of FreeBSD... but it has no X and apparently no networking because the ftp from pkg_add failed. Did I do something wrong in the install, or do I really have to configure all that stuff by hand? Thanks for your help. -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand --------------090806060609090409000107 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="about vbox and freebsd.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="about vbox and freebsd.eml" X-Mozilla-Keys: Message-ID: <4A8DD86D.5020208@robinlea.com> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:12:45 +0700 From: John Francis Lee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: about vbox and freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 08/20/2009 11:59 PM Hello Duncan Hutty, I write to you directly because I have posted several times to the list and have not seen an answer to my problem, and you seem knowledgeable about freebsd. I have a dual-core amd64 machine running ubuntu 9.04 with vbox 3.04 and have tried to create a freebsd guest on it. I've had a freebsd webserver at iserver/viaverio for about 15 years but still have not set up a freebsd box of my own where I can really learn the ins and outs of the system, and I'd like to. My problem is that I'm told right at the onset of the install that CPU doesn't support long mode Someone suggested that I was trying to install a 64 bit os on 32 bit system, but I don't think that's the case : jfl@ws3:~$ hwinfo --cpu 01: None 00.0: 10103 CPU [Created at cpu.304] Unique ID: rdCR.j8NaKXDZtZ6 Hardware Class: cpu Arch: X86-64 Vendor: "AuthenticAMD" Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+" Features: fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dnow,rep_good,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_legacy,3dnowprefetch Clock: 1000 MHz BogoMips: 2009.02 Cache: 512 kb Units/Processor: 2 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown 02: None 01.0: 10103 CPU [Created at cpu.304] Unique ID: wkFv.j8NaKXDZtZ6 Hardware Class: cpu Arch: X86-64 Vendor: "AuthenticAMD" Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+" Features: fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dnow,rep_good,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_legacy,3dnowprefetch Clock: 1000 MHz BogoMips: 2009.02 Cache: 512 kb Units/Processor: 2 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown I'm then dumped into an OK prompt and unable to do much more. Have you seen or heard of this before? Sorry to bother you if you have no clue yourself. Thanks for any help you might be able to give. -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand 08/15/2009 10:38 PM My problem seems to be that CPU doesn't support long mode Is that it? Can't get there from here? -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand 08/15/2009 10:20 PM Hi, I got a new machine, a linux ubuntu-running AMD64 based one, and thought I'd try out FreeBSD here at home. But when I begin the VirtualBox installation I get dumped into a shell-looking terminal with an OK prompt. I can't read all the instructions and frankly cannot do anything with it. I tried hitting the 2 before the timeout to boot with ACPI disabled but that seems not to make any difference. Have you heard of this problem before? Any help you might give appreciated. Thanks. I'll go see if the VirtualBox people can shed any light on the matter as well. -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand --------------090806060609090409000107-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 10:46:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586DA106568C for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:46:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snikeris@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30F08FC0C for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:46:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so1859895ewy.36 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:46:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cfoUeKBo1SikSdRvJ7wUsjX4Z9ZLVagvzA14uoDGcQQ=; b=P7rU3xS6RJg2+/iO/eVG0OXKv4bxUKp1rwhEunMvEJ/u2x+Z2h+4pD/FUOTOoj4FCF zEaiIvdlI5tOYq8ZMCPFk8F4BlLfcpIl9lEMA79P2B7h5VcmlJ3+6Nk48t0EPSwjxNJz 8EFvvgtOf+EZoQXVRLvSjUINIb3STdhFt5O0I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=wseTHVYiYF71VPXrVPB01Fvc4hPtPmGYvrTD+HPfsuM25st03iseH9RRMrASmetBNQ zUmvfl9UvupA9uKUT1b0w4o+V/atf8E1J5hC9yfunXhbxL8RhdRdj8cTV/5GvFUhnR0T tz1XpNZ/9mNM1gC3uR9kFpuziqJ3xDERMX1T0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: snikeris@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.45.207 with SMTP id p57mr443690web.94.1250937980952; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:46:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090822125403.Q90928@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090821000540.950AD10656E6@hub.freebsd.org> <20090821123138.M90928@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20b8a1c50908211804o25d2c98di20b8e116e032b201@mail.gmail.com> <20090822125403.Q90928@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:46:20 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 52a2b2735b35e17e Message-ID: <20b8a1c50908220346v648b3e19h6d8725ef3e7fadf9@mail.gmail.com> From: Joe Snikeris To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suspend/Resume on Thinkpad x40 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:46:23 -0000 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Ian Smith wrote: > On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Joe Snikeris wrote: > =A0> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Ian Smith wr= ote: > =A0> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:03:29 -0500 Joe Snikeris = wrote: > =A0> > > =A0> > =A0> First off, I apologize if this is not the right forum for thi= s > =A0> > =A0> question. =A0I was torn between posting this in mobile, ACPI,= X11 and > =A0> > =A0> here. =A0If I might get a better response in one of those for= ums, please > =A0> > =A0> let me know and I'll post there instead. > =A0> > > =A0> > I suspect -mobile might be the best list for this one, perhaps -ac= pi > =A0> > but that's usually more about development than usage. =A0You might= try > =A0> > searching the archives of either for mention of the X40. > =A0> > > =A0> > =A0> I'm having some trouble getting the kinks worked out of the > =A0> > =A0> suspend/resume functionality on my laptop, an IBM Thinkpad X4= 0. =A0It is > =A0> > =A0> mostly working now, but I am still experiencing some strange = behavior. > =A0> > =A0> =A0I can suspend and resume from a console just fine (except = for the > =A0> > =A0> fact that the console comes up blank and only displays new > =A0> > =A0> characters); however, suspending and resuming in X is problem= atic. > =A0> > =A0> > =A0> > =A0> The first suspend and resume in X works perfectly, but the ne= xt time I > =A0> > =A0> hit suspend, the machine locks up while still displaying what= ever I > =A0> > =A0> was doing in X. =A0Note that if I switch to a virtual termina= l before > =A0> > =A0> hitting suspend, this problem does not occur. =A0Does anyone = have any > =A0> > =A0> suggestions on what I might do to get this resolved? =A0The d= etails of > =A0> > =A0> my machine follows; please let me know if any additional info= rmation > =A0> > =A0> would be helpful. > =A0> > > =A0> > My T23 requires hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=3D1 to suspend/r= esume > =A0> > cleanly (7.0), so does my old Compaq Armada (but that's APM, not A= CPI) > =A0> > =A0> Thanks Ian. =A0This fixed the problem where suspend would hang the > =A0> second time it was executed in X. > > Good to know another model that this works on, for the archives. > > =A0> At any rate, I gave up on ACPI. =A0I've got suspend-to-ram and > =A0> suspend-to-disk (hibernation) working perfectly using APM. > =A0> > =A0> Does anyone know if there are any disadvantages related to > =A0> power-saving features when using APM over ACPI? =A0Is powerd able to= do > =A0> its job just as well? > > The answer to that (at 5.5-STABLE) used to be 'no', but there is some > APM code in powerd.c, related to how it determines the AC line state, > though it's not clear to me if it would require compiling APM in kernel. > > Certainly /etc/rc.d/power_profile can't set CPU CX states without ACPI. Ok. Just did a search to find out what CPU CX states were. For a good explanation of the CX states: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-May/006436.html > > Switching speeds relies on the dev.cpu.0.freq and dev.cpu.0.freq_levels > sysctls - are these available when you're running on APM? =A0If so, try > running powerd(8) in verbose foreground mode (-v) and see what happens. Yes they are. And powerd in verbose foreground mode shows that it is lowering the frequency all the way down to 75 MHz depending on the load. Cool. Thanks again, Ian. Take care, Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 11:18:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A001106568E for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dharma66@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288158FC29 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:18:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so776380yxe.3 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:18:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eoFw0QaGqdz2jfJh8nVfFzCBb5WQXqbhhJKMEualDdA=; b=qmXxEWdkzxtMPTZDonPmp3ClKytry6sw+k0w71Gh2A3v9UHyCHS9azK699AsY5avZ/ XYcz0kmK3VkTuHmSu3GL7NBEZTTQNt0WLCiszYs2BfjnKtTHstfMhX+NNJ2JXWpVtYsQ 3sKnws6ql/WyUrcr1vm3h62Jc0tAOKD4TlpMM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=xHQQ19qH/0Rp6Ls/2Isx5emmhTUVl9eh5kf7aXckU2+8wMmNJOpHAPm6rb4sZt7/dU epQSz7E5vIp8E2NAE+ZjinW6jJv9tmGxgkIyDYpREjUeoF9y4N4/qKwYvqxoEL0AdGiD uliVo43aSuXC43woMqJfc28ksTHgOW5d2ql74= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.39.6 with SMTP id r6mr2178293anj.166.1250938166085; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:49:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Lewis Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:49:06 +0100 Message-ID: <55fa7b3a0908220349h329ee6f2q4f1a039465a7f9fb@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RAID10 setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:18:08 -0000 This question was asked a few weeks ago, but the original poster must have had their questions amswered. As follow-ups offered further assistance given more detail, I wonder if I could be so bold as to provide that detail for my own circumstances. I have six disks: ad4 - 500MB ad5 - 500MB ad6 - 500MB ad7 - 400MB ad8 - 500MB ad10 - 500MB These are SATA drives, with ad8 and ad10 on a PCIe SATA controller. ad7 was my first disk and currently contains FreeBSD7.2-RELEASE. I've been using that to gain some familiarity with FreeBSD, but it need not be preserved (in fact, I'd rather not preserve it!). When I built the machine, I just plugged the 400GB drive in any old slot, so it can move if that makes sense. When I got the new drives I tried to get identical to the 400GB drive, but couldn't. The 400GB drive currently has a single slice using the full drive. What I'd like to end up with is a three-way stripe across three two-way mirrors, containing as much of the system as possible. I understand that you can't boot from a stripe, so some part of some disk will have to be outside the stripe. However, as the stripe will also be limited to the smallest disk, I'm going to have 5 x 100 GB bits left over anyway, so I guess /boot can go on one of these..? If possible, I'd like set this up pre-install. If it has to be done post-install, or is easier to describe how to do post-install, then that's fine. >From here on in, this email becomes speculative. All of the examples I've seen for setting up GEOM stripes and mirrors have used the raw disk as the base-level provider. On the other hand, I've seen nothing that says that the bottom level cannot be a slice, rather than a raw disk, and given the way GEOM works, I suspect this is true. My current plan, based on this assumption, is as follows: With my current FreeBSD installation, create 2 slices on each 500GB disk, 1 x ~400GB, 1 x ~100GB (the same size as the slice of my 400GB disk, and the rest of the disk). Boot from the FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE dvd, and enter fixit mode. I'm not sure which would be best, or even if both are feasible for what I want to do. (I was at this point in my researchwhen I found this post!). >From here, kldload geom_stripe and kldload geom_mirror. Then, create the three mirrors: gmirror label -v main0 /dev/ad4s1 /dev/ad5s1 gmirror label -v main1 /dev/ad6s1 /dev/ad571 gmirror label -v main2 /dev/ad8s1 /dev/ad10s1 This should give me /mirror/main0|main1|main2, right? Next create the stripe: gstripe label -v -s 131072 raid10 /dev/mirror/main0 /dev/mirror/main1 /dev/mirror/main2 (that's all one line) If I'm right so far, then hopefully I should be able to boot to the install dvd again (or just rerun sysnstall?), and from there I should be able to choose a slice from outside 'raid10' to mount /boot, and use 'raid10' for everything else. Do I need anything else on a non-striped slice? Maybe I could even create another mirror: gmirror label -v boot /dev/ad4s2 /dev/ad5s2 and use that to mount /boot, leaving me with s2 on ad6,8 and 10 as 3 spare 100GB slices? Or am I just way off track? PS. I can't believe I'm talking about 300 'spare' GB! My first disk was 20MB! And I never filed that! All guidance much appreciated. Phil On 30 July, 15:03, John Nielsen wrote: > On Wednesday 29 July 2009 15:54:42 Richard Fairbanks wrote: > > > OK, so this is what I want to do. I have 4 big fast drives that I want to > > run inRAID10 (1+0). So, I'll need to mirror two sets of two disks, then ... > > Of course, if there is a way to create the stripedsetoff mirrors before > > installation then installing onto that stripe, that'd be perfect. I don't > > know if that can be done. I'm sure someone has configured aRAID10 > > "standalone" system before. (Oh, I'm using 7.2). I'm just stuck at this > > point! > > You need to consider where/how you are going to boot the system. It's > straightforward to boot from a gmirror'ed UFS filesystem (the BIOS just uses > one disk and thinks everything is normal), but you can't do the same from a > stripe. You will either need a separate disk/device for your / or /boot > partition or you will need to use slices/partitions on your disks. I > frequently have the root filesystem on a small gmirror (partitions on 2 > disks) then use the equivalent "extra" space on the remaining disk(s) for > swap. > > Youi should be able to do this pre-installfrom the Fixit shell. Boot to the > live CD, enter the shell, kldload geom_mirror and geom_stripe, create the > mirrors, create the stripe, exit the shell, start theinstall, and tell > sysinstall to use the device node under /dev/stripe for your filesystem. > > Alternatively you could just do a regularinstallto one of the disks and do > everything post-install. In this case you'd still create two mirrors but one > of them would only contain a single disk at first. Then create your stripe, > dump/restore your files, update fstab (in both locations if needed), reboot > using the stripe, then add the original system disk into its mirror. > > If you provide more details of how you want your setup to look I can give you > a specific walkthrough if needed. > > JN > _______________________________________________freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org mailing listhttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" -- Ram Ram From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 12:12:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2A1106568B for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:12:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FF48FC0C for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719AF36F66; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:11:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:11:57 +0200 From: cpghost To: Nerius Landys Message-ID: <20090822121157.GB2350@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <560f92640908212137s376f1dc8vaba59618a6b71d67@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <560f92640908212137s376f1dc8vaba59618a6b71d67@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: /etc/rc.d/named dilemma X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:12:02 -0000 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 09:37:09PM -0700, Nerius Landys wrote: > I am trying to figure out why DNS lookups are not possible right after > the "named" process has been launched (during bootup). At start, named sends a couple of queries to e.g. root servers. All this requires the network connection to be already up and running; and if you're using a firewall, it also needs to be up and ready. And, more importantly, it requires some time until named is ready to answer lookups... and in the mean time, you've already launched other processes who do queries. I have a similar problem with a little FreeBSD-based home router running net/mpd5 to connect via PPPoE to a DSL line. Because packages (and so mpd) start after all system processes, named has problems to connect to the root servers, pf has problems initializing itself without ng0 interface, ntpd has problems initializing itself,... and when mpd finally established the network connection, it is already too late. I'd love to change the rc-order of the scripts, so that mpd starts first, waits until the link is up, and only then starts the other processes. But until I've found out how to do that the right way, I wrote a little batch script that gets invoked at link-up, and that simply restarts all other processes in the order: pf, named, ntpd, postfix, etc... That's not ideal, but as a kludge, it works for me. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 12:19:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C8B106568E for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEFE8FC0C for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:19:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MepZT-00056K-2h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:19:47 +0200 Received: from pool-70-21-27-81.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.27.81]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:19:47 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-27-81.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:19:47 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:19:42 -0400 Lines: 69 Message-ID: References: <4A8FC096.2050907@robinlea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-27-81.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: [Fwd: about vbox and freebsd] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:19:48 -0000 John Francis Lee wrote: > I got an answer to my question, posted here, from ... but I've been > instructed not to post to individuals but to the list so I copy the > Mak's response here : > > > Your CPU is 64-bit from what I can see. From a bit of Googling, others > have encountered this problem, and it seems to have to do with VM-X. I > have no idea what that is, but a thread in which someone has a very > similar issue is here: > > http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19420 > > One notable quote is: > > ...[the CPU] does not have Intel VT (hardware virtualization), so you > will not be able to run 64 bit guests in Virtualbox even though you run > a 64 bit host. > > HTH > Something sounds strange here. The name for Intel's hardware virtualization feature is VT-I, or sometimes VT-x, while AMD's name for the same thing is AMD-V. Your processor supports AMD-V and VirtualBox supports both, at least in the version 3.0.4 that I am running. Alas, my processor is Intel and if there actually is a problem of VirtualBox not being 64 bit capable with AMD-V I cannot test. Since your host system is Ubuntu I am also wondering if the problem could involve their packaging of the product, e.g., an older version of VirtualBox such as 2.x or some such. Also wonder if it needs to be manually turned on in BIOS. Also I believe the 64 bit support is relatively new so you might want to check which version of VirtualBox it became included as a new feature and compare that against the version you have. Since this is a FreeBSD list I'm just going to say it could be an Ubuntu problem, and leave it at that. > So, OK. I cannot have 64 bit guests using virtual box. > > I have installed the 32 bit version of FreeBSD... but it has no X and > apparently no networking because the ftp from pkg_add failed. > > Did I do something wrong in the install, or do I really have to > configure all that stuff by hand? Don't know. But the default VirtualBox networking is NAT, with it supplying DHCP services to the client. You may need to enter a line in your (FreeBSD) /etc/rc.conf similar to: ifconfig_rl0="DHCP" where rl0 would be whatever is your network interface. When it boots (the FreeBSD guest) it should be assigned an IP something like 10.0.2.15 and a default gateway something like 10.0.2.2. These can vary. Also be aware that while you can connect outbound and receive return traffic you will be unable to initiate inbound connections. If you require this ability you will need to manually set up VirtualBox in bridge mode, which also requires some non-trivial config changes to your host OS. Like I said, something just sounds fishy to me because on the VirtualBox 3.0.4 that I run it clearly supports both Intel and AMD hardware virtualization. Since I don't have the AMD processor to try it myself I can't confirm. At any rate, if the 32 bit FreeBSD runs and satisfies your needs why keep fiddling. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 12:39:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F073D106568B for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:39:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C828FC22 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7MCdraQ046093; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:39:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:39:53 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Joe Snikeris In-Reply-To: <20b8a1c50908220346v648b3e19h6d8725ef3e7fadf9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090822215736.H90928@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090821000540.950AD10656E6@hub.freebsd.org> <20090821123138.M90928@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20b8a1c50908211804o25d2c98di20b8e116e032b201@mail.gmail.com> <20090822125403.Q90928@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20b8a1c50908220346v648b3e19h6d8725ef3e7fadf9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1833110931-1250944793=:90928" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suspend/Resume on Thinkpad x40 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:39:56 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1833110931-1250944793=:90928 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Joe Snikeris wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Ian Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Joe Snikeris wrote: > >  > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Ian Smith wrote: [..] > >  > At any rate, I gave up on ACPI.  I've got suspend-to-ram and > >  > suspend-to-disk (hibernation) working perfectly using APM. > >  > > >  > Does anyone know if there are any disadvantages related to > >  > power-saving features when using APM over ACPI?  Is powerd able to do > >  > its job just as well? > > > > The answer to that (at 5.5-STABLE) used to be 'no', but there is some > > APM code in powerd.c, related to how it determines the AC line state, > > though it's not clear to me if it would require compiling APM in kernel. > > > > Certainly /etc/rc.d/power_profile can't set CPU CX states without ACPI. > > Ok. Just did a search to find out what CPU CX states were. For a > good explanation of the CX states: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-May/006436.html Good hunting; a good overview of current load/power handling on FreeBSD, also posted to -mobile and/or -acpi as I recall. > > Switching speeds relies on the dev.cpu.0.freq and dev.cpu.0.freq_levels > > sysctls - are these available when you're running on APM?  If so, try > > running powerd(8) in verbose foreground mode (-v) and see what happens. > > Yes they are. And powerd in verbose foreground mode shows that it is > lowering the frequency all the way down to 75 MHz depending on the > load. Cool. At 75MHz, it should be :) cheers, Ian --0-1833110931-1250944793=:90928-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 13:58:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEAD106568D for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:58:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356048FC08 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1B9B41C1A67; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:58:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A8FF981.7020707@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:58:25 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeffrey Goldberg References: <9F9B85A9-CC10-4793-B38D-4F1E1929BAF6@identry.com> <5A8F63C4-7244-410A-B115-9681709855B5@goldmark.org> In-Reply-To: <5A8F63C4-7244-410A-B115-9681709855B5@goldmark.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: John Almberg , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What should be backed up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:58:28 -0000 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > On Aug 21, 2009, at 2:33 PM, John Almberg wrote: > >> I am currently using rsnapshot to back up these directories on a >> FreeBSD 7.2 webserver: >> >> /etc >> /usr/home >> /usr/local >> /var/cron > Here is my exclude list from my rsnapshot.conf > > exclude /var/log > exclude /var/tmp > exclude /usr/obj > exclude /usr/ports/distfiles > exclude /usr/local/squid > > Also I backup by file system, so I'm already excluding /tmp Yes, it's easy to miss something that should have been backed up. There is no point in backup of files other than those you modify yourself, unless you plan to create an exact image and recover using dd. After installation you can do # date > /tmp/TIMESTAMP then you can create a list of files that have been modified after that time with find, # find / -newer /tmp/TIMESTAMP > /tmp/backupfilelist If you have a backup cronjob, then you can use the same method to backup only files modified since last backup. On a base system with no services running, I'd restrict backup to /etc /home If you've got any ports installed, add /usr/local/etc /var/db/ports What else to add to the list really depends on which services you run, named, mail, cvs, web, ftp, nis, etc. and if these have critical files in other directories. If you have any databases or ldap service, then you want to add those as well, but it is recommended to dump these rather than backup the files themselves. I wouldn't backup source or the ports distribution, you have an online backup available :) If you rely on a particular snapshot, then you should configure that in your supfiles. But if you need to recover without network access you should backup source and the ports tree as well as distfiles or build packages whenever you install from ports and keep those backed up. BR, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 14:30:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1F4106568B for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@freebsdonline.com) Received: from web1.unixengines.com (web1.unixengines.com [88.198.32.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44FD8FC14 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unixware.iasi.rdsnet.ro ([86.124.51.145] helo=laptop.nobody.ro) by web1.unixengines.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mercx-000P5b-QR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:31:31 +0300 Message-ID: <4A90014A.9060309@freebsdonline.com> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:31:38 +0300 From: Ovi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090731 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to install ien-firmware on Freebsd 7.2 Stable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:30:55 -0000 Hello Anybody knows how to install iwn-firmware on Freebsd 7.2 Stable? (I need it for: Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN) I do not have /usr/ports/net/iwn-firmware dir since it is only in 8.0. Is a way to install it and use that firmware? I've searched alot on Google, but I did not find a howto for installation of wifi firmwares to FreeBSD (other that with "make install" from ports, which is possible only if I have the firmware for my freebsd). I want to use a firmware from here: http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?n=downloads&f=ucodes_4965 best regards ovi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 15:42:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC38106568E for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4C18FC12 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:42:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so1976276ewy.36 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:42:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jGJXlvHZ/DKEKjHSDMefTw9oOuJBscm2dllBmobWFhU=; b=frOhDZcKappinIIBxPqQs6JK8lAnB55OD4mUcCU/iLOUKUJlTuF5UiX4ZXU0C0YjVu PvqlNnFcpvceGcE4TDWJsx4tNT6PV19JhJqVpf3pcUjvXs1uH6Od9F/pGblZaelq/ONP TkX5l5RCJzNLCHWMe7f2twrkmg3rJMLfhzrRQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eUt/MZC7dY1eWcOVtlFBRkZ4SaoFEdro9++pFPupzUEfCC3ao+4NqIsAjNP6HoJfzV EioRdPHKcp5mNuB84Zr7rmAI7FCo6zGa1UgrlwXqIi/NJbSBKtmtnkO5pAPnhVL3QGiI ddvxmLOuR5LO/Mttd/CyDMPhNsg1GQIFYCtGI= Received: by 10.216.93.16 with SMTP id k16mr504204wef.33.1250955745314; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i6sm15270788gve.7.2009.08.22.08.42.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:42:19 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090822164219.1d439ae4@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640908212137s376f1dc8vaba59618a6b71d67@mail.gmail.com> References: <560f92640908212137s376f1dc8vaba59618a6b71d67@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: /etc/rc.d/named dilemma X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:42:27 -0000 On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:37:09 -0700 Nerius Landys wrote: > Then why > can't I do a lookup right after named starts? Possibly it's a delay in bind being ready or maybe you don't have any network access - the latter is common with ppp. > By the way, the underlying issue that I'm trying to address is that > ntpdate, which comes right after named in the boot sequence, is not > able to resolve the DNS for the time servers. Try putting the following in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/waitfordns and make it executable (untested) #!/bin/sh # # PROVIDE: waitfordns # REQUIRE: named # BEFORE: ntpdate . /etc/rc.subr : ${waitfordns_enable:=yes} name=waitfordns rcvar=`set_rcvar` stop_cmd=":" start_cmd="waitfordns_start" waitfordns_start(){ /usr/bin/dig +time=1 +retry=99 @127.0.0.1 google.com 2>&1 > /dev/null } load_rc_config ${name} run_rc_command "$1" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 17:17:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE153106568D for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:17:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zetinja@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726238FC18 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:17:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so321933fgb.12 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:17:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=/E1fR1KdFOxSHyRlg6AvqJ0FYA4s5qGfShd0ryjkD4c=; b=cPLqb6iL3/s18i/Sj++/sWEJUMvaH51CNltQImlxcp1k8ijGbZijjKy2j5qla/H0kN Hu7OEBOlnADKmqBpMXatYUK3NyB2N8nLyrE6/z0r1zuO3b2VueTLXY9aWBdmI2u/H23k B/V/q8piQvESKYJMFRyXqTj56tdY90CN2smyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=feky2NFozsDtx3pNec0VUE/8Tr3+1KTNEDNqXJUgJXOwdSWNItMzLgqazQ40XtexR+ DxpL0b9Pd/uKCzfI7B+d6xQuZk3JvBMm+nCHi9e+bE09efvX+T/J9xCSOqrwSaDXTPH+ 11j8z1McbpRKZKtoCPtcTSiLCcDYkjXysBuMw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.154.32 with SMTP id b32mr1847370fge.10.1250961453505; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:17:33 +0300 Message-ID: <9a9ddaf60908221017k6b883d59g8321942c870fbee9@mail.gmail.com> From: Zetinja Tresor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Crash dump freebsd 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:17:35 -0000 I have several jails running on my freebesd machine and lately it started to crash when it gets a bit loaded. I followed the freebsd kernel debugging manual, and got some output, but I have no idea what to do with it. The only thing I think I understand of it that the bit that matters are just the two last lines. Is there anyone that can help? # kgdb kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.2 GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"... Unread portion of the kernel message buffer: kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 1; apic id = 01 fault virtual address = 0x10 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc07d4a21 stack pointer = 0x28:0xe9c879c4 frame pointer = 0x28:0xe9c879d8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 18223 (libssl.so) trap number = 12 panic: page fault cpuid = 1 Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 1; apic id = 01 fault virtual address = 0x6e727598 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc08bf945 stack pointer = 0x28:0xc72bfaa8 frame pointer = 0x28:0xc72bfacc code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 30 (em1 taskq) trap number = 12 panic: page fault cpuid = 1 Uptime: 12h20m45s Physical memory: 3827 MB Dumping 295 MB: 280 264 248 232 216 200 184 168 152 136 120 104 88 72 56 40 24 8 Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/acpi.ko...Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/acpi.ko.symbols...done. done. Loaded symbols for /boot/kernel/acpi.ko Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/linux.ko...Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/linux.ko.symbols...done. done. Loaded symbols for /boot/kernel/linux.ko Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/nullfs.ko...Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/nullfs.ko.symbols...done. done. Loaded symbols for /boot/kernel/nullfs.ko Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/fdescfs.ko...Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/fdescfs.ko.symbols...done. done. Loaded symbols for /boot/kernel/fdescfs.ko #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:196 196 __asm __volatile("movl %%fs:0,%0" : "=r" (td)); (kgdb) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 19:13:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B538A106568F for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:13:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f171.google.com (mail-pz0-f171.google.com [209.85.222.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B0C8FC16 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:13:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk1 with SMTP id 1so333260pzk.3 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:13:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HVLq32zJj8QLKNKmC5M8aKVWHc9SKtyNbi2+0yC7Qyc=; b=fMFoJIwfSYYKCYa0eL/TKMoMJvfRf/Q9IRmZXAbX1OP0Qzs7VDWrTdqbIY3Sfp8tKT GY/2UErLhuCgwCzFtkSoJ2xcGwd9x8ZhmRkTkDqE0AiW0ULSoj2vNeQQEuuo1sF+F2vM v9cFl4ee9SI7KRFpFIhHoLJkph5RwD3p2j0D4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=taM7t7BUFi0MCLSVgF640FJbxRfovVxZs1IOGjBoSEKOZGQbLqZFAceUEVc+HUTP1w neaItcL54eYyv/n5kZKeW0z5BvEvx0nsznjHBSOOtacStSow0GzJyFGTr1LeE1MGdxRf cxFWAKlew4ekfcYvA4PkjKIj5OirdEsmd0DdM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.3.36 with SMTP id 36mr2853806wac.112.1250968397942; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:13:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090822164219.1d439ae4@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <560f92640908212137s376f1dc8vaba59618a6b71d67@mail.gmail.com> <20090822164219.1d439ae4@gumby.homeunix.com> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:13:17 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640908221213p2e426650x3bcad3b93de4d4a3@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: RW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/rc.d/named dilemma X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:13:18 -0000 Thanks for the script. I found the underlying problem on my system. My server is at a data center and I don't know what kind of equipment the server is connected to. It appears that it takes 30 seconds for the networking to start. I added this script as /etc/rc.d/waitfornetwork, and enabled it in rc.conf: =================== #!/bin/sh # PROVIDE: waitfornetwork # REQUIRE: NETWORKING # BEFORE: named . /etc/rc.subr : ${waitfornetwork_enable:=NO} name=waitfornetwork rcvar=`set_rcvar` stop_cmd=":" start_cmd="waitfornetwork_start" waitfornetwork_start() { echo "Waiting for network to initialize." for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do #echo "Iteration $i" if ping -c 1 198.41.0.4 | grep -q '^1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0.0% packet loss'; then break fi done } load_rc_config ${name} run_rc_command "$1" =================== It goes through 4 or 5 iterations (the "for" loop) before it exits. This takes about 30 seconds. Without this startup script, ntpdate and ntpd fail, regardless of whether or not I use named as my local DNS caching server. With this script enabled, ntpdate and ntpd are able to resolve the listed DNS for the time servers, regardless of whether I'm using 127.0.0.1 or some other DNS in my resolv.conf. This 30 second delay for the network to start on every reboot (at the data center) - is this normal? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 19:26:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF4E10656AA for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50FC8FC17 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m38so368006waf.27 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:26:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FKpi8OCoSBWzJpdMHVFkf99JUsZNxgW3DhlumtOorVY=; b=GXZ3eLwAW9rR5gIV/2jD47SSXra9ioTuAt/149ftxFHvS2N+I5ZTjGk5k9FCv5TV/Q nSoUYIzFyPCji4cYd/GRhJybXbEnMbAfyCTbXBxok06Xb3MV4agG2XD2a8MgbmRlanOE /PXMIqRotDFc1BS1jFUQz4PRMUFQ916NBmu3o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q/S0462eqVewxOftxDeRbZrjwhz67Pzrp9NoEcCXAp3BIjqUB9pFH2QtGoL4mGTE0K 09KBMZaEwQirhwd04zdqTOP8sg3q4EmLneri7ufSNpHp9WqDqk2cfPcPycsnVvmsw0oS FmGWUHlIrytkAv7mxGtH5Knpp6k0NXNOIh8dU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.135.23 with SMTP id m23mr3974347wan.136.1250969197216; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:26:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <560f92640908221213p2e426650x3bcad3b93de4d4a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <560f92640908212137s376f1dc8vaba59618a6b71d67@mail.gmail.com> <20090822164219.1d439ae4@gumby.homeunix.com> <560f92640908221213p2e426650x3bcad3b93de4d4a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:26:37 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640908221226o5da22c8frae08de57520d98be@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: RW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/rc.d/named dilemma X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:26:38 -0000 One last question. I'm getting interesting [kernel?] messages during bootup. You know, the kind that are highlighted white in the console. The relevant lines of rc.conf look like this right now: defaultrouter="64.156.192.1" hostname="daffy.nerius.com" ifconfig_em0="inet 64.156.192.169 netmask 255.255.255.0" waitfornetwork_enable="YES" named_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" #ntpdate_enable="YES" ntpd_enable="YES" linux_enable="YES" apache22_enable="YES" mysql_enable="YES" Early on in the bootup, the ifconfig shows for em0: inet 64.156.192.169 ... media: Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier Then later on: Waiting for network to initialize. em0: link state changed to UP calcru: runtime went backwards from 37332 usec to 16577 usec for pid 47 (sh)... ... (more messages about calcru) And then everything starts fine, including ntpd. Why is em0 only brought up when I do my ping command in /etc/rc.d/waitfornetwork? And are these calcru messages something to be worried about? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 23:14:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9545D1065690 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5628FC26 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so905599qwe.7 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:14:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=r1UY/pKapR/0A3/wGIA/SH+0i8LiXdOr2HZawKNkRVA=; b=GI74sJKZFDwuPpx9AySGc3TEQKMV0neOrJrc+rdUnmN1BuZRYvrhtD0zBaio7/voDO SXL7u60awpY6DZy/0mI3Exue9eb5ZtQYxpPaP1/qXh+yGROpxVmg6nPiKMqh2mUnp5uf 84BsXcrYGZyFE8GhZg+PlJvnMC/zO8ilm/h9s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IyDgXF3hplS5if3IZm5uQJ1SheelrTZBPWKJgn7Ge3ITBG+hB+dqIRghk9zC9aL4Gn lf/vjkKjAombUQXZwuJIl8/qaH+xegNQXy0IRXpUJXeRTTJIJFiTjO/2MunQlRFym1pc N2ATqglK9xwXusUeg1Lb1QPNACqq4v+7TwLu4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.10.214 with SMTP id q22mr332463qcq.91.1250982890561; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:14:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <560f92640908221226o5da22c8frae08de57520d98be@mail.gmail.com> References: <560f92640908212137s376f1dc8vaba59618a6b71d67@mail.gmail.com> <20090822164219.1d439ae4@gumby.homeunix.com> <560f92640908221213p2e426650x3bcad3b93de4d4a3@mail.gmail.com> <560f92640908221226o5da22c8frae08de57520d98be@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:14:50 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640908221614vacd66ega4a56b79d3a59db6@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: RW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/rc.d/named dilemma X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:14:51 -0000 > calcru: runtime went backwards from 37332 usec to 16577 > usec for pid 47 (sh)... Not to seem like I'm talking to myself, but I fixed this problem: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#CALC= RU-NEGATIVE-RUNTIME (Turn off Intel=AE Enhanced SpeedStep.) I am still bambuzzled by the network taking 30 seconds to come up. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 22 23:48:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19185106568B for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E398FC21 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2009 19:48:11 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.6-GA) with ESMTP id QCT46691; Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:48:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Auth-ID: roberthuff Received: from 209-6-159-252.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO [209.6.159.252]) ([209.6.159.252]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 22 Aug 2009 19:48:09 -0400 Message-ID: <4A9083AD.4080305@rcn.com> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:47:57 -0400 From: Robert Huff User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nerius Landys References: <560f92640908212137s376f1dc8vaba59618a6b71d67@mail.gmail.com> <20090822164219.1d439ae4@gumby.homeunix.com> <560f92640908221213p2e426650x3bcad3b93de4d4a3@mail.gmail.com> <560f92640908221226o5da22c8frae08de57520d98be@mail.gmail.com> <560f92640908221614vacd66ega4a56b79d3a59db6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640908221614vacd66ega4a56b79d3a59db6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/rc.d/named dilemma X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:48:14 -0000 Nerius Landys wrote: > I am still bambuzzled by the network taking 30 seconds to come up. I don't remember the original description, but any time I hear about a 30 second "gap" during startup, I think of the well-known DNS reverse look-up issue. Are you sure this is not the case here? Robert Huff