From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 01:23:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5591065672 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 01:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@stringsutils.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E778FC18 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 01:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shelca (zoraida.natserv.net [66.114.65.147]) by zoraida.natserv.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5481A1704F; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:23:32 -0400 (EDT) References: <20090928011444.29110022@chris.makeworld.com> <20090928213703.ecf59a9d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090929022231.9a92783f.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: X-Mailer: http://www.courier-mta.org/cone/ From: Francisco Reyes To: krad Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:23:23 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk Cloning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 01:23:33 -0000 krad writes: > On a side note. Anyone building new systems manually from the shell I would > recommend using GPT labels if you can. Apart from not having the 8 fs limit > (128 iirc) gpart is a dam sight nicer to use than bsdlabel, and scripting it Any links on GPT on 8? Found this tutorial for 7 http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=2666 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 01:41:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D5B106568B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 01:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5308FC19 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 01:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n941dg1r024886; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:39:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:41:22 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Chris Message-ID: <20091004014121.GA15053@thought.org> References: <20091002071528.0B3B710656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <4AC5ED1E.3820.4B0A319@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> <20091002154838.GA9446@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: NO ONE knows?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 01:41:27 -0000 On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 08:35:46PM -0700, Chris wrote: > > On Oct 2, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > >On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 12:07:58PM +0200, DA Forsyth wrote: > >>On 2 Oct 2009 , freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org entreated about > >>"freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 278, Issue 10": > >> > >>>Message: 28 > > > > What I'm looking for is how to use the ``better than the > > default voices''; there are several english languages that > > are fairly natural sounding. Nothing I've googled explain > > using the quality voices for FreeBSD. > > > > gary > > Gary, > > You should post this on the sourceforge forum for eSpeak. > I looked and it appears the developer himself responds to > questions people have. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/espeak/forums > > Chris > i did look this up several hours ago. by the time i set up my account And figured out howto use the forum site i found there were several involving espeak and mbroloa, but none answered the question. they all involved linux--this probably wasn't that important to my question. while i will continue poking around. gary > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 05:38:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD580106566B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 05:38:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-117.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-117.bluehost.com [69.89.22.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 893998FC13 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 05:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31613 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 05:38:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 05:38:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=RImgldjyiI7sBTSlk1nSakI3yGDhlC9qUTqPnro/gv31npTLgaqDASRY+T8048bX6S0sYTHPgK2gBSGi+ggltfoOWXYrtc4Krvt/8TcWk1Gf/fbosnTaFEqEk6FzGpcw; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MuJnv-0005sF-Tn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:38:44 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:31:24 -0600 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:31:24 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091004053123.GA37100@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> <4AC6A26E.9080405@gmail.com> <4297a9020910021815p60858505w89abbfa909b99340@mail.gmail.com> <20091003045640.GA28502@guilt.hydra> <5a3c8f450910022228k3c196b6ay1acc3031716d673d@mail.gmail.com> <4AC70238.1000209@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AC70238.1000209@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 05:38:45 -0000 --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 08:50:16AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 > Google apparently favours HTML-5 as their future direction, rather than > Flash. And where YouTube goes, the rest of the world will surely follow, > at least as far as Video streaming is concerned. Oh, thank goodness. Flash video is a blight. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrIMysACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVhIQCfZSXgqP+e4sI8GaYJU1KwTw40 RZcAn0OE0Up53c31QySNoJ+XUN+CqwmP =Ygi1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 05:39:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7ACC106568F for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 05:39:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-22.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-22.bluehost.com [69.89.21.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5DD48FC08 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 05:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32456 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 05:39:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 05:39:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=dXeGHa/KrMg+cWRZ1WpbfIbqVGWH/DnmISRNFWAbLr7+RixxWNOhn22fTxB/05XHgXbSxmoc0W+w3Rb/VpKKbEAVa+Dd9eK6Vzs1x3reJ8lHckJ37ul7/gVY5zJTOLTf; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MuJor-0006em-1m for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:39:41 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:32:21 -0600 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:32:21 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091004053221.GB37100@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> <4AC6E7A5.6090002@lazlarlyricon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="U+BazGySraz5kW0T" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AC6E7A5.6090002@lazlarlyricon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 05:39:41 -0000 --U+BazGySraz5kW0T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 07:56:53AM +0200, Rolf G Nielsen wrote: >=20 > Where do I vote to have them continue forever not creating a FreeBSD=20 > version of that crap? If you s/Free/Open/ I think the question answers itself. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --U+BazGySraz5kW0T Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrIM2UACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUj2QCeIZBiklao3vh259cm2a6WZGxJ PUUAnRB3WkR6MwTe45RTfyJwHSADnni9 =qQ+u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --U+BazGySraz5kW0T-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 05:41:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986071065693 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 05:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-137.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-137.bluehost.com [67.222.39.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65A018FC0C for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 05:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 30024 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 05:41:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 05:41:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=mZ1L7M5UlPrup3/6ZqURT7E11keEcVImEqkaj3lDvW+AFj35GeaAcoPggKHYu20aCrjhbrqnU34iCRWdQMiU+m0qrdJDY947J4tGjpxQuSWcwjut0Pz12rwzCNikbD4r; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MuJqe-0008Jr-Nv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:41:32 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:34:12 -0600 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:34:12 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091004053412.GC37100@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> <4AC6E7A5.6090002@lazlarlyricon.com> <19143.19392.666064.939130@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <19143.19392.666064.939130@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 05:41:33 -0000 --Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 09:04:00AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > Rolf G Nielsen writes: >=20 > > > Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ .. > > =20 > > Where do I vote to have them continue forever not creating a > > FreeBSD version of that crap? >=20 > Is your objection to Flash in particular, or to any product in > that specific niche? I don't know about the other guy, but I find the Adobe Flash Player plugin pretty odious. Unfortunately, I also find Swfdec and Gnash pretty substandard as well. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrIM9QACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX4lQCfcqLiln0IxdKH2Y2t6y96IF9h mGwAnipAR5PxqpATdRiozhbkiHMNy0bL =j+TQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 05:52:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63AB1065672 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 05:52:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-22.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-22.bluehost.com [69.89.21.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79BDC8FC0C for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 05:52:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19373 invoked by uid 0); 4 Oct 2009 05:52:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 05:52:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=V1PxRAAy1DbbkHSGRsVkRdFIrcnMDW051k+fI9UcVWxNtj/3s0U28mTaKeO3n5bFEP9Y/gNjF5tQlgZsaSWFw2dupIbjIXNSJ0HlOe028z25Tn6TWVVUUzaDZbE5e1kN; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MuK1O-0001Mt-TS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:52:39 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:45:18 -0600 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:45:18 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091004054518.GD37100@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091003120028.B0CEA10656A7@hub.freebsd.org> <346226.13848.qm@web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sgneBHv3152wZ8jf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <346226.13848.qm@web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 05:52:39 -0000 --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 08:01:07AM -0700, James Phillips wrote: >=20 > I have this fantasy that if I design and build a better streaming video > format, "They" (broadcasters) will use it, if properly marketed. It may be a fantasy, but as fantasies go, it's not a bad one. >=20 > This would be despite the lack of "strong" DRM or license terms (GPL v3 > is OK, right?). No, it isn't okay, really. > 4. Publishers are authenticated with a Public-key infrastructure That caught my attention. I don't think we necessarily need a mainstream style implementation of PKI, though. I'd say either go with simple public key digital signatures in the style of OpenPGP or take cues from the Perspectives plugin for Firefox and do distributed "web of trust" style verification. Certifying Authorities are basically just a social engineering trick; now, instead of trusting one party, you have to trust two. >=20 > 2. For interoperability, I need to stabilize key points of the spec > before publication. Currently struggling with date stamps (taking into > account leap seconds) (mostly resolved), and a transform to allow the > publisher to be authenticated even if some data is missing. There are copyfree licensed implementations of date management that take leap seconds into account out there already. Is there some reason you can't borrow liberally from them? > 4. A dual-license may quickly result in a fork that implements > "features" I really don't want to see. (Read: anything deliberately > incompatible.) That's just another reason to go with a copyfree license instead of the GPL. > > 5. I seem to be pre-occupied with the video compression, ignoring > sound. >=20 > PS: was this too off-topic? Maybe? I don't know. It's an interesting topic. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrINm4ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWKsgCgytD504pxt8K/CizTSPVoTIgV 58kAoIe9apLFr8GsJDpShhCOv1JsfkfW =gUiZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sgneBHv3152wZ8jf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 10:24:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2256F106566B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7618FC18 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:24:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n94ANwFn008837; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:24:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n94ANw9i008836; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:23:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:23:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910041023.n94ANw9i008836@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, idmc_vivr@intgdev.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:24:14 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Every 12-hrs -- "ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE DMA" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 10:24:17 -0000 This is a reply to a very old thread. I decided to reply because 1. nobody has mentioned the real cause of the problem yet (some answers were misleading or even outright wrong), 2. I've experienced the same problem in the past few weeks, 3. my findings might be useful for other people who are googling for the symptoms (like me) and stumble across this thread. The drive in question seems to be very popular, especially in low-end private servers and home machines. It is very reliable; I still have these and similar ones in production. The drive of mine that exhibited the problem recently is this: ad0: 24405MB at ata0-master UDMA66 It is powering a small server running DNS, SMTP, WWW and other things for several private domains. The load is very low, most of the time. Now for the actual problem: V.I.Victor wrote: > For the last 4-days, our (otherwise OK) 5.4-RELEASE machine has been > reporting: > > Feb 12 12:08:05 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=2701279 > Feb 13 00:08:51 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=2701279 > Feb 13 12:09:38 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=2963331 > Feb 14 00:10:24 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=2705947 > Feb 14 12:11:09 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=2706335 > Feb 15 00:12:02 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=2832383 > Feb 15 12:12:57 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=139839 > Feb 16 00:13:50 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=131391 > Feb 16 12:14:36 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=131391 > > The system was created Jan 08 and, prior to the above, the ad0: timeout had > only been reported twice: > > Jan 25 11:43:34 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=17920255 > Feb 6 11:59:42 : ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=2832383 > [...] > ad0: 14664MB [29795/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66 First of all: The disk is *not* dying. "SMART" won't reveal anything. The behaviour is perfectly normal for IBM-DJNA-3* type disks. When those disks are used in continuous operation (24/7), they will go into automatic maintenance mode after 6 days. This is kind of a short self-test and recalibration to ensure reliable continous operation. It will be repeated after another 6 days ad infinitum. Note that there are exactly 12 days between your Jan 25 and Feb 6 incidents, and exactly 6 days between Feb 6 and Feb 12 incidents. An automatic maintenance on Jan 31 apparently finished successfully without a timeout message. Normally the drive will wait until it detects an idle period, then perform the maintenance, then continue normal operation. Maintenance mode involves a short spin down / spin up cycle. However, if the drive receives a command during spin down, it will abort maintenance mode, spin up (which takes a few seconds and might cause a "timeout" to the operating system), then perform the command, and RETRY MAINTENACE AFTER 12 HOURS. So that's where your timeout messages every 12 hours come from. This is not in any way harmful. Eventually the maintenance will succeed (i.e. the idle period is long enough to finish), then you won't get timeout messages anymore for at least 6 days. You mentioned that the problem appeared (and disappeared) when you set the machine's clock. This is easy to explain, too. The hard disk has its own clock which is not synchronized with the system clock. It starts counting from zero when the disk is powered up. By changing the system's clock, you shift the offset between it and the drive's clock. That means that periodic activity will happen at different times, relative to the drive's clock. Such periodic activity includes cron jobs and other things. For example, sendmail's queue runner wakes up every 30 minutes by default. Many other daemons also perform periodic activity. All of that can happen to start in the middle of the idle period that the drive chose to use for its maintenance, thus interrupting maintenance, as described above. If the offset between the system's clock and the drive's clock changes, chances are that such periodic activity will happen at different times, from the point of view of the drive, so the likelihood that the drive can complete its maintenance changes (better or worse). Unfortunately there is no way to configure or disable that maintenance mode. The only way to somewhat control it is to periodically enforce a spin-down ("standby" ATA command) when you know that the drive is idle. This usually requires to unmount the filesystems, though, because otherwise you can't guarantee that they will be idle for long enough. You can read IBM's official documentation here: http://www.hitachigst.com/tech/techlib.nsf/techdocs/85256AB8006A31E587256A7900618DED/$file/djna_sp.pdf If that link doesn't work anymore, google for this: "OEM HARD DISK DRIVE SPECIFICATIONS for DJNA-3xxxxx" The maintenance mode is described in chapter 10.12 (page 99). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "I started using PostgreSQL around a month ago, and the feeling is similar to the switch from Linux to FreeBSD in '96 -- 'wow!'." -- Oddbjorn Steffensen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 11:47:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC32B106568D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idmc_vivr@intgdev.com) Received: from omr17.networksolutionsemail.com (omr17.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790D78FC1C for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 11:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.networksolutionsemail.com (ns-omr17.mgt.hosting.dc2.netsol.com [10.49.6.80]) by omr17.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id n94BTt0i029246 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:29:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 23775 invoked by uid 78); 4 Oct 2009 11:29:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail4) (205.178.146.50) by ns-omr17.lb.hosting.dc2.netsol.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 11:29:55 -0000 Received: from 75.88.118.131 (idmc_vivr@intgdev.com [75.88.118.131]) by webmail4 (Netsol 11.2.30) with WEBMAIL id 25867; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 11:29:55 +0000 From: "V.I.Victor" To: "Oliver Fromme" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, idmc_vivr@intgdev.com Importance: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Message-ID: X-Mailer: Network Solutions Webmail, Build 11.2.30 X-Originating-IP: [75.88.118.131] X-Forwarded-For: [(null)] Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 11:29:55 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:02:46 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: Every 12-hrs -- "ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE DMA" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 11:47:08 -0000 [...] >First of all: The disk is *not* dying. "SMART" won't reveal anything. >The behaviour is perfectly normal for IBM-DJNA-3* type disks. > >When those disks are used in continuous operation (24/7), they >will go into automatic maintenance mode after 6 days. This is >kind of a short self-test and recalibration to ensure reliable >continous operation. It will be repeated after another 6 days >ad infinitum. > It's been over 3.5 years since my original post -- imagine my surprise! The drive's still running (24/7) and still reporting the same retries. Be= cause of the pattern of the retries, I never really thought that the driv= e was bad. But, until now, I never knew why it was happening. Thanks *very* much for the info! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 12:36:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A0A1065679 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA08B8FC23 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12551 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Oct 2009 12:36:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254659773; bh=jcjKNv/PIM9tDPOxXrMs1c0EPfuWqkUGF0Q9XDjsVlU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=v9sLNsRIUTOksF1QgPuqpC1PjRUfaBmToUdmBawOBs0g6XJnOPRMu9Ou6pTmt87rEB37Wl+gy5KKYp54DJIki59eWVup7a84yQnVZ1sUL4uB/gWxnsjiuM/ElynMTf8Chh4n8cNMM6mbsXHE9jPX/uY8YhohPSipKCCqnpNCD3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GekK+C2Te6A1e+E9uuAvtx84amaCWBZIb3iP3hz5zZ2pAXbICPmMfOD90Zvq8u0MaMxd3YpWRlIL4xWFP6eGtinxsBs+lcrdzu5bsS3bt8ECYsssEaRhw8y56OUSiS24U9ZTJGBGNWhbT/c72ISpgq/Jr6waAWyGLdYV8qdkMC0=; Message-ID: <53013.99292.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: h1_h2aAVM1k54pMpJZHiUpydgWvlld_k4s.5oagSMbndw4LeVu8BPqRawslJ113XrDJIRMZPl7fy3k.0jggtnYYbLr5jbzL6D_jFfM.2domZaM3_0FlwgnSDpkjFaVq.oZaW1kYGP4k2rTQWOZ0I1dQPipClR8T1D5tS.5XQmWhcSmFmbq2F_MgVUCCoj88vJwpxH9.lkNRE9vk_uUOYndiJrRkovBfPI3LDUgG3JypynCaOQEjOwVVz4.LBoeZzIVf.7UooPZHI2N22nSrLBzqDAfkR9FtiQDtpvKn8O_w3DFdMmKDaLwl7UtwAI8eKWHdGbaOJfgkA8HH3oJuX2Rmo.yj.y28dIOG5RaVA8FslNtzelDwV4Q_1eZdeNrv8oonFoBQB8PyG2pZPWZs.TfCJK4CZqk4wxGB3W70gwrLp Received: from [67.204.54.15] by web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 05:36:12 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/157.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 References: <35656.54290.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <44ocoo4eus.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <11016.32541.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <741337.59760.qm@web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 05:36:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <741337.59760.qm@web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Apache20 port on FreeBSD 7.2 does a core dump X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:36:14 -0000 > > On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 13:38 -0000, aaflatooni wrote:=0A> > =0A> > >> Aflat= oon Aflatooni writes:=0A> > >>=0A> > >>> I am getting a lot of core dumps a= nd Apache20 freezing.=0A> > >>> I have installed the porting using the foll= owing make:=0A> > >>>=0A> > >>> make WITHOUT_MODULES=3D"ssl status speling = imap auth_dbm auth_digest dav =0A> > dav_fs=0A> > >> cern_meta cgi include"= install=0A> > >>>=0A> > >>> any suggestions as to how I might find out wha= t is causing the problem and =0A> =0A> > the=0A> > >> core dumps.=0A> > >>= =0A> > >> The first thing I'd try is re-including the excluded modules.=0A>= > >> If you no longer get the crashes, you can start narrowing in on which= =0A> > >> one is involved.=A0 If you still get the crashes, you'll have to = start=0A> > >> looking at the core files.=0A> > >>=0A> > >> I'm assuming yo= u're not used to using a debugger on a core file,=0A> > >> on the theory th= at you would have done that already if you were=0A> > >> comfortable with i= t.=0A> > >>=0A> > >=0A> > > I originally had them included and I was gettin= g the core dumps, but I =0A> removed =0A> > them because I don't need them = and I am still getting the core dumps.=0A> > >=0A> > > This is a production= box and it would be hard to have debugger turned on.=0A> > > I don't know = if it would be helpful, but PHP is also really slow on this =0A> > machine.= I know that PHP would cause a dump in the php.core file and not =0A> > apa= che.core.=0A> > >=0A> > > How do I inspect the core file to find out which = module caused it?=0A> > >=0A> > > Thanks=0A> > >=0A> > >=0A> > =0A> > Have = you any special php5 modules loaded. I had a problem with I want to =0A> re= call =0A> > three or more extensions that would cause apache2X to dump core= or halt in =0A> doing =0A> > =0A> > any further actions upon request.=0A> = > =0A> > If the above is the case you can disable some or all of your php5-= extensions =0A> in =0A> > local/etc/php/extensions.ini to test it out.=0A> = > =0A> > Best of luck.=0A> =0A> =0A> Thanks,=0A> I followed your suggestion= and removed all but the necessary modules from the =0A> extensions.ini. I = will have to wait and see if it helps the core dumps.=0A> =0A> So at this t= ime I have the following in the extensions:=0A> extension=3Dgd.so=0A> exten= sion=3Dmcrypt.so=0A> extension=3Dmysql.so=0A> extension=3Dsimplexml.so=0A> = extension=3Dspl.so=0A> extension=3Dmysqli.so=0A> extension=3Dsession.so=0A>= extension=3Dtokenizer.so=0A> extension=3Dxml.so=0A> =0A> PHP is still=A0sl= ow though!=0A> =0A=0A=A0=0AJust an update:=0AI still get the httpd.core dum= ps and PHP5 is visibly slower. Nothing has helped the situation.=0A=0A=0A = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 13:17:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1EE106568B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:17:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9724E8FC0A for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 Oct 2009 13:17:15 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp005) with SMTP; 04 Oct 2009 15:17:15 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18PyaAaNlwPqUKbX4+EYDLWPRnzUXzWWyFbkvEURM Olvtzb9BQOO5uL Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:15:05 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091004131504.GB1406@sandcat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.76 Subject: Deleting the kernel source - just with #rm? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:17:18 -0000 Daemons, a little question. I just compiled a nice, slim kernel on my laptop, but I dont want to carry all the kernel sources around there. Is it ok just to #rm the content of the /usr/src directory? And will I get it completely back from sysinstall or the FreeBSD-servers? Or is there a more elegant solution on FreeBSD? Thanks! herb langhans -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 13:37:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34F4106566B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38AA28FC14 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:37:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9940 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2009 13:37:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) (218.215.179.179) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 13:37:24 -0000 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 87E6F170D6; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:37:37 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:37:37 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: herbert langhans Message-ID: <20091004133737.GA63827@ozzmosis.com> References: <20091004131504.GB1406@sandcat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091004131504.GB1406@sandcat> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deleting the kernel source - just with #rm? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:37:41 -0000 On Sun 2009-10-04 15:15:05 UTC+0200, herbert langhans (herbert.raimund@gmx.net) wrote: > I just compiled a nice, slim kernel on my laptop, but I dont want to > carry all the kernel sources around there. > > Is it ok just to #rm the content of the /usr/src directory? And will I > get it completely back from sysinstall or the FreeBSD-servers? Or is > there a more elegant solution on FreeBSD? This should be fine. Since you've built a custom kernel you may want to keep a copy of your kernel build config ("LINT") file, eg. /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/HOSTNAME. Note that you can't use freebsd-update to patch a custom (non-GENERIC) kernel. You can restore the kernel source code by extracting the ssys.?? binaries (normally found in the /src/ directory, eg. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/7.2-RELEASE/src/ ) using install.sh (found in the same directory). Probably also with sysinstall, but I don't recall the steps to do that. Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 13:56:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC101065670 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:56:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodolfopellegrino@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B5A8FC14 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so11323286ywh.7 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 06:56:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ztKjCQ7lxouYGxZHvL3+I625WVZwz2A54M7rZrJZjeY=; b=Po7FoKY2H8JZ/be2TDGmGw59SIWOSIfWy550CIKrSP/8Y0D1aWz8gvN1TjWN9z3xxF w1vwZMfoN07GQd9YvXMizpM6dhW2x9FMokRosRU1cYStriktEOMfv9g2O5PKLhgVOFYC FKWKCWQNBGVyTrajgmmU4MgQec0BY8H6cWUBc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=xFP2oHD3mGCCZBf/7qDdhLwruEJ5iddUMcWr9IKF6FjDcPmV79qUzqqcot6PakLiQJ bSZFdpd4N8bmybkuLcUF6YbVeZgb9UvDi7rIk4orcl3OJbvlHLlY7YXdTaHMdxNbPrjU NmWN1ko8yfmONT5Ho4aKLG/vrcyf4yFvyHN8Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.85.15 with SMTP id n15mr4428273anl.139.1254662861319; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 06:27:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> References: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:27:41 -0300 Message-ID: <2cad60ad0910040627ha564ba2vaa64043c3a22ddc7@mail.gmail.com> From: Rodolfo Pellegrino To: Leandro F Silva Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:56:48 -0000 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Leandro F Silva wrote: > Hey guys, > > Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ .. > > We just have to create an account and voting on the link below =D > > http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060 > > I voted and added a coment: * "Maybe it requires licensing fees, like Java, but most of us use it like a player (Youtube) or games (Kongregate), among other. I don't want to switch to other operating system in order to view the Flash content."* Good luck! (Boa Sorte!) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 12:16:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690B9106568B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:16:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wbryan01@mi.rr.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB628FC5C for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hrndva-web09-z01 ([10.128.132.100]) by hrndva-smta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091004120241356.MNJL26490@hrndva-smta02.mail.rr.com> for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 12:02:41 +0000 Message-ID: <20091004120241.TS9CR.47860.root@hrndva-web09-z01> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 8:02:41 -0400 From: To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:59:12 +0000 Cc: Subject: complements to the chief X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:16:12 -0000 I am a system 5 and linux person ( sorry ) for a long time (1987) But I chose to look at your site this morning. I am VERY VERY impressed by the fact that you folks have created a comprehensive list of hardware supported in your distribution. Way to GO!!!! I do not believe that I will ever see such a list in the Linux world. Too bad for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 14:31:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3508C106566B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96C5B8FC13 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:31:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 Oct 2009 14:31:18 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp070) with SMTP; 04 Oct 2009 16:31:18 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19JA9FljXVJrxa/BEfXGhFoPTrDFmZDAEXFnu29UG xj++pHycKZ3Uro Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:29:08 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: andrew clarke , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091004142908.GA18329@sandcat> References: <20091004131504.GB1406@sandcat> <20091004133737.GA63827@ozzmosis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091004133737.GA63827@ozzmosis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.52 Cc: Subject: Re: Deleting the kernel source - just with #rm? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:31:21 -0000 Thank you, Andrew, clicketyclick - all source code gone now, and the config file is saved. Can you please tell me about the issue with freebsd-update. Does it mean if I run: #freebsd-update fetch #freebsd-update install - it will overwrite my self compiled kernel? Good to know indeed! Cheers herb langhans On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 12:37:37AM +1100, andrew clarke wrote: > On Sun 2009-10-04 15:15:05 UTC+0200, herbert langhans (herbert.raimund@gmx.net) wrote: > > > I just compiled a nice, slim kernel on my laptop, but I dont want to > > carry all the kernel sources around there. > > > > Is it ok just to #rm the content of the /usr/src directory? And will I > > get it completely back from sysinstall or the FreeBSD-servers? Or is > > there a more elegant solution on FreeBSD? > > This should be fine. > > Since you've built a custom kernel you may want to keep a copy of > your kernel build config ("LINT") file, eg. /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/HOSTNAME. > > Note that you can't use freebsd-update to patch a custom (non-GENERIC) > kernel. > > You can restore the kernel source code by extracting the ssys.?? > binaries (normally found in the /src/ directory, eg. > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/7.2-RELEASE/src/ ) > using install.sh (found in the same directory). Probably also with > sysinstall, but I don't recall the steps to do that. > > Regards > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 14:42:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5571A106568D for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:42:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DC2D8FC15 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14026 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2009 14:42:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) (218.215.179.179) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Oct 2009 14:42:00 -0000 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7F2A9170D6; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 01:42:13 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 01:42:13 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: herbert langhans Message-ID: <20091004144213.GA64394@ozzmosis.com> References: <20091004131504.GB1406@sandcat> <20091004133737.GA63827@ozzmosis.com> <20091004142908.GA18329@sandcat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091004142908.GA18329@sandcat> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deleting the kernel source - just with #rm? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:42:16 -0000 On Sun 2009-10-04 16:29:08 UTC+0200, herbert langhans (herbert.raimund@gmx.net) wrote: > Can you please tell me about the issue with freebsd-update. Does it mean if I run: > #freebsd-update fetch > #freebsd-update install > - it will overwrite my self compiled kernel? Good to know indeed! No, I suspect freebsd-update will simply refuse to patch it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 14:50:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F46F10656C1 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:50:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74FC28FC16 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 Oct 2009 14:50:41 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp022) with SMTP; 04 Oct 2009 16:50:41 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+BzjNk1L+Batjfh6IHzP9D4A+Jfa7Fx1vOZGrtPq tkL5RUiEtlNUMe Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:48:31 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: Leandro F Silva , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091004144831.GB18329@sandcat> References: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.6 Cc: Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:50:44 -0000 Yep, I am in. I signed here: http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060 and also there: http://www.petitiononline.com/flash4me/petition.html Its the last thing I need to have a full native FreeBSD environment. Maybe you should dig out this thread after some weeks again, Leandro. I guess we can gather some more signatures from recent subscribers. Cheers herb langhans On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 09:25:53PM -0300, Leandro F Silva wrote: > Hey guys, > > Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ .. > > We just have to create an account and voting on the link below =D > > http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 15:08:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC8F1065670 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E0A8FC19 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:08:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n94F89MJ084110; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:08:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 523F4BA8F; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:08:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:08:09 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: herbert langhans Message-ID: <20091004150809.GA73704@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20091004131504.GB1406@sandcat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9amGYk9869ThD9tj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091004131504.GB1406@sandcat> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deleting the kernel source - just with #rm? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:08:11 -0000 --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 03:15:05PM +0200, herbert langhans wrote: > I just compiled a nice, slim kernel on my laptop, but I dont want to carry > all the kernel sources around there. Keep in mind that some ports (those that contain kernel modules) require the kernel sources. On my 7.2-RELEASE-p4 machine, /usr/src uses 495 MiB according to du(1). A bzip2 compressed tar archive of /usr/src weighs in at 83 MiB. If you are suffering from space constraints, consider doing a trimmed-down buildworld (on an external disk or on another machine) as well. Using src.conf(5) you can exclude a lot of stuff from the base system if you don't need it. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrIulkACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXbRwCcDpul2ftesCEYLcoQ0bmfYWZY 50cAnj7KEA7l+qneS9oGDV5vYcPtG7Zs =oqe2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 15:33:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB331065672 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46AC48FC19 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 33363 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Oct 2009 15:33:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1254670383; bh=8Iw1n8ruKWE63DbQCrndD4RUzptQvD+xI7Qj3mkR0OE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OkJ/fyIKVtruA+IHuc6NH0S7yHfUKVrhYxbF/8XMwlhKmpq7iLh3x9tZEfROb6lNY4W9oWEiX4Z2xl+T73sE36nOeUqXrc0LkcR+9ECLI0L4GAA9PZbeOf72eMxh44os65PXplEe6+nS6/O+Two69t1ZcxVAFRAIOVkwkABbokk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qJax4SB3BmACc/+VtkQ41aKHaLhfJgIV9wg9ijfRDOyaK88xA9k55A3Ob5R7CNNbpXeGGhRWqxVsdaZie3Ic6XlqrNbomthh+GOOAMODCB4rMtqrUIWK3GN4Zki623iW+Y1EwzDOKwJWGyaWKLh89LFfR1I3etnL2DMIM+qtSwM=; Message-ID: <553217.31319.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3IviapAVM1nRuuuJKgR3FgZu1wpiXCpwAL6gAlPCc6Kwt21cVEb9o58gQ0_kvQ5IISJTNhWirywrF8sVFiYhZfRw6pXpexWtz9PL8Ea_E4L4LlWH9xEqTD7ZEhJcE8SGHM_7ViJXDazrKfC_dbwPV4kIy5YPiQmPrLQQdZ877W_cUm5m3x6LayM_cPpeBvZDm.OD2vYT24CGrFc9yA42SixWycc1WHgW1wSepFy7tGXqsBDYZiw3H5DRZ2Ze_iu.xL.I2pzgCvy9FRshPFjV9FTNwihtougprVvpO75W8JqWA24c00qJnzOrhNiyLA_hIGmr5TbvxwQR29_JwTMPXcQgPw03lh88Et5fGHD6PGTg20dPL9CFq5CuDbl.K9MkBc_05wVaSVa44Bb6wiMrA8vhWsFXNOPD71rdhUIhWBhtOLksL7JI16z8zw-- Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 08:33:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:33:03 -0700 (PDT) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091004120022.6765210657A0@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:33:04 -0000 =0A=0A=0A> =0A> Message: 29=0A> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:45:18 -0600=0A> Fr= om: Chad Perrin =0A> Subject: Re: Voting for a native = i386/amd64 flash player=0A> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-I= D: <20091004054518.GD37100@guilt.hydra>=0A> Content-Type: text/plain; chars= et=3D"us-ascii"=0A> =0A> On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 08:01:07AM -0700, James Ph= illips=0A> wrote:=0A> > =0A> > I have this fantasy that if I design and bui= ld a=0A> better streaming video=0A> > format, "They" (broadcasters) will us= e it, if properly=0A> marketed.=0A> =0A> It may be a fantasy, but as fantas= ies go, it's not a bad=0A> one.=0A> =0A> =0A> > =0A> > This would be despit= e the lack of "strong" DRM or=0A> license terms (GPL v3=0A> > is OK, right?= ).=0A> =0A> No, it isn't okay, really.=0A=0AThat's ok: I've thought of an "= out" for the licensing issue:=0AI can write up an RFC. That way the BSD peo= ple can boast about their "reference implementation," while the GNU zealots= can be assured that their "pure" implementation won't be leveraged against= them.=0A=0A> =0A> >=A0 4. Publishers are authenticated with a=0A> Public-k= ey infrastructure=0A> =0A> That caught my attention.=A0 I don't think we=0A= > necessarily need a mainstream=0A> style implementation of PKI, though.=A0= I'd say either=0A> go with simple=0A> public key digital signatures in the= style of OpenPGP or=0A> take cues from=0A> the Perspectives plugin for Fir= efox and do distributed "web=0A> of trust"=0A> style verification.=A0 Certi= fying Authorities are=0A> basically just a social=0A> engineering trick; no= w, instead of trusting one party, you=0A> have to trust=0A> two.=0A=0AI thi= nk I fell into the trap of using buzzwords. I *know* Certifying Authorities= are an interm scam needed until the general population understands how pub= lic keys work.=0A=0AI think PGP style (but binary) signatures on every ~32k= B packet solves the problem of authentication in the event of of missing pa= ckets.=0A=0AI was envisioning that the CNN's and BBC's of the world would h= ave a series of public keys (one for each bureau), while Joe down the stree= t would have 1 or 2 (one public, one for darknets). =0A=0A=0A=0A> > =0A> > = 2. For interoperability, I need to stabilize key=0A> points of the spec=0A>= > before publication. Currently struggling with date=0A> stamps (taking in= to=0A> > account leap seconds) (mostly resolved), and a=0A> transform to al= low the=0A> > publisher to be authenticated even if some data is=0A> missin= g.=0A> =0A> There are copyfree licensed implementations of date=0A> managem= ent that take=0A> leap seconds into account out there already.=A0 Is there= =0A> some reason you=0A> can't borrow liberally from them?=0A=0AProbably be= cause I don't know about them :)=0A=0AActually, I was planning to borrow fr= om Unix Time, increasing the resolution, and making the number signed (for = old recordings).=0A=0ABut, Unix time doesn't do leap seconds, so they have = to be added back in.=0A=0AJust recently, (reading cal(1)) I realized anothe= r problem: not everyone uses the Gregorian Calendar. Now I have to decide h= ow to take that into account sufficiently.=0A=0A> > 4. A dual-license may q= uickly result in a fork that=0A> implements=0A> > "features" I really don't= want to see. (Read: anything=0A> deliberately=0A> > incompatible.)=0A> =0A= > That's just another reason to go with a copyfree license=0A> instead of t= he=0A> GPL.=0A> =0A=0AA copyfree license wouldn't have a "stick" preventing= the implementation of an "effective technological measure" as described in= Article 11 the 1996 WIPO treaty (GPL v3 does).=0A=0AIf the (hypothetical) = RFC explicitly says that copy-protection won't work (in the "security consi= derations" section), MAYBE a judge will decide any incompatible implementat= ion is also ineffective at "copy protection." =0A=0A=0ARegards,=0A=0AJames = Phillips=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ___________________________________________= _______________________=0AYahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on th= e web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now=0Ahttp://ca.toolb= ar.yahoo.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 17:07:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B24106566B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f192.google.com (mail-qy0-f192.google.com [209.85.221.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB858FC14 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so2719745qyk.7 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 10:07:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Fbmm6xZqqxugZFivddkrwC4r0GMBg9uL/RmTHpAmhZM=; b=ZoFMOs8p7mlsBtz7asMVkD0TQbRYdV8xeYveAiOjX4neYU3/XlvyGfEv+u2bKTHQKI 10vsD7ceY/TvYWZPCdUCMwatx8PYhrK67iPb2hnrQvrp8C9zcl7NqKxaT9atY38S/uQT +fxfmtfZ47Odh/o0DzvGwII0XXrXcnLbjhPz0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BkDGu9Ve3RpXzP/0PQoaOEJuUGR9IOuHBiIFh69wso3PJisUvpmwwCJZhw7kP24qmC EbG1VdBgDO7t8zZlB1EwCgLvJT2do2EN2H1diRn7oMkAUwtnGfNiI79xIHvQNZw2OzHv aHypZK5fK8+pxylRD1TiXIL3FvRcTe88v2RH0= Received: by 10.224.91.143 with SMTP id n15mr2602983qam.71.1254676030357; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 10:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dimension.5p.local (adsl-99-35-15-84.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.35.15.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm2246869qwg.23.2009.10.04.10.07.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 04 Oct 2009 10:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:07:03 -0400 From: jhell To: James Phillips In-Reply-To: <553217.31319.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <553217.31319.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x89D8547E X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:07:11 -0000 On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:33 -0700, anti_spam256@ wrote: > > > >> >> Message: 29 >> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:45:18 -0600 >> From: Chad Perrin >> Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Message-ID: <20091004054518.GD37100@guilt.hydra> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 08:01:07AM -0700, James Phillips >> wrote: >>> >>> I have this fantasy that if I design and build a >> better streaming video >>> format, "They" (broadcasters) will use it, if properly >> marketed. >> >> It may be a fantasy, but as fantasies go, it's not a bad >> one. >> >> >>> >>> This would be despite the lack of "strong" DRM or >> license terms (GPL v3 >>> is OK, right?). >> >> No, it isn't okay, really. > > That's ok: I've thought of an "out" for the licensing issue: > I can write up an RFC. That way the BSD people can boast about their "reference implementation," while the GNU zealots can be assured that their "pure" implementation won't be leveraged against them. > >> >>>   4. Publishers are authenticated with a >> Public-key infrastructure >> >> That caught my attention.  I don't think we >> necessarily need a mainstream >> style implementation of PKI, though.  I'd say either >> go with simple >> public key digital signatures in the style of OpenPGP or >> take cues from >> the Perspectives plugin for Firefox and do distributed "web >> of trust" >> style verification.  Certifying Authorities are >> basically just a social >> engineering trick; now, instead of trusting one party, you >> have to trust >> two. > > I think I fell into the trap of using buzzwords. I *know* Certifying Authorities are an interm scam needed until the general population understands how public keys work. > > I think PGP style (but binary) signatures on every ~32kB packet solves the problem of authentication in the event of of missing packets. > > I was envisioning that the CNN's and BBC's of the world would have a series of public keys (one for each bureau), while Joe down the street would have 1 or 2 (one public, one for darknets). > > > >>> >>> 2. For interoperability, I need to stabilize key >> points of the spec >>> before publication. Currently struggling with date >> stamps (taking into >>> account leap seconds) (mostly resolved), and a >> transform to allow the >>> publisher to be authenticated even if some data is >> missing. >> >> There are copyfree licensed implementations of date >> management that take >> leap seconds into account out there already.  Is there >> some reason you >> can't borrow liberally from them? > > Probably because I don't know about them :) > > Actually, I was planning to borrow from Unix Time, increasing the resolution, and making the number signed (for old recordings). > > But, Unix time doesn't do leap seconds, so they have to be added back in. > > Just recently, (reading cal(1)) I realized another problem: not everyone uses the Gregorian Calendar. Now I have to decide how to take that into account sufficiently. > >>> 4. A dual-license may quickly result in a fork that >> implements >>> "features" I really don't want to see. (Read: anything >> deliberately >>> incompatible.) >> >> That's just another reason to go with a copyfree license >> instead of the >> GPL. >> > > A copyfree license wouldn't have a "stick" preventing the implementation of an "effective technological measure" as described in Article 11 the 1996 WIPO treaty (GPL v3 does). > > If the (hypothetical) RFC explicitly says that copy-protection won't work (in the "security considerations" section), MAYBE a judge will decide any incompatible implementation is also ineffective at "copy protection." > > > Regards, > > James Phillips > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > So how many different subjects are in here that don't thread ? With all due respect: wheres Waldo ? -- %{----------------------------------------------------+ | dataix.net!jhell 2048R/89D8547E 2009-09-30 | | BSD since FreeBSD 4.2 Linux since Slackware 2.1 | | 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E | +----------------------------------------------------%} From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 17:26:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65754106566B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:26:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CD38FC0A for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:26:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 04 Oct 2009 13:26:13 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id LDY36046; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:26:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-227.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.227]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 04 Oct 2009 13:26:13 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19144.55988.434058.612528@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:26:12 -0400 To: Roland Smith In-Reply-To: <20091004150809.GA73704@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20091004131504.GB1406@sandcat> <20091004150809.GA73704@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: herbert langhans , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deleting the kernel source - just with #rm? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:26:14 -0000 Roland Smith writes: > > I just compiled a nice, slim kernel on my laptop, but I dont > > want to carry all the kernel sources around there. > > Keep in mind that some ports (those that contain kernel modules) > require the kernel sources. And not just kernel modules. The popular and useful sysutils/lsof not only requires the source tree (or at least some part of it), but requires the source match the running kernel. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 18:58:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBB8106568B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinzstyle@free.fr) Received: from smtpfb2-g21.free.fr (smtpfb2-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E4C8FC13 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (smtp5-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.5]) by smtpfb2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71015CA8E41 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:41:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA79D48227 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:41:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lan1.localnet (router.vinzland.net [82.230.197.7]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720E9D48110 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:41:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Vinzstyle To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:41:32 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.29.6-desktop-2mnb; KDE/4.2.4; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200910042041.32454.vinzstyle@free.fr> Subject: Postfix doesn't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:58:31 -0000 Hi, I installed Postfix with PCRE support from the ports collection, but I get this error when I try to start it : Oct 4 20:22:09 mail postfix/postfix-script[47114]: starting the Postfix mail system Oct 4 20:22:09 mail postfix/master[47115]: fatal: open lock file /var/db/postfix/master.lock: cannot open file: Permission denied [root@mail /]# ls -ld /var/db/postfix/ drwx------ 2 postfix wheel 512 Oct 4 20:16 /var/db/postfix/ The "mail_owner" directive is set to "postfix" in main.cf Is there some things to set up after the "make install" ? Did I miss something ? I'm running FreeBSD-7.2-RELEASE, and Postfix(-2.5.6,1) is started inside a jail. Thanks for your help :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 19:09:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488CB1065694 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yblent8@gmail.com) Received: from wombat.diezmil.com (aa.81.b6.static.xlhost.com [207.182.129.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75B48FC14 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wombat (wombat [127.0.0.1]) by wombat.diezmil.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n94IgZis025070 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:42:35 -0400 Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:42:35 -0400 From: yblent8@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <14187016.21254681755016.JavaMail.root@wombat> In-Reply-To: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yblent8@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:09:22 -0000 -- Leandro F Silva wrote : Hey guys, Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ .. We just have to create an account and voting on the link below =D http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@free... mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@free..." -- This message was sent on behalf of yblent8@gmail.com at openSubscriber.com http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/12886636.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 19:33:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8911065679; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:33:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinzstyle@free.fr) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (smtp5-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746718FC12; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 19:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C38D4802A; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:33:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lan1.localnet (router.vinzland.net [82.230.197.7]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7A5D48076; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:33:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Vinzstyle To: jgimer@gmail.com Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:33:12 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.29.6-desktop-2mnb; KDE/4.2.4; x86_64; ; ) References: <200910042041.32454.vinzstyle@free.fr> <2117530918-1254683459-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1616429688-@bda081.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> In-Reply-To: <2117530918-1254683459-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1616429688-@bda081.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200910042133.12933.vinzstyle@free.fr> Cc: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Postfix doesn't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:33:23 -0000 Le dimanche 4 octobre 2009 21:09:05 jgimer@gmail.com, vous avez =C3=A9crit : > What are the actual permissions on the lock file, not just the containing > directory? > > Josh > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vinzstyle > Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:41:32 > To: > Subject: Postfix doesn't start > > Hi, > > I installed Postfix with PCRE support from the ports collection, but I get > this error when I try to start it : > > Oct 4 20:22:09 mail postfix/postfix-script[47114]: starting the Postfix > mail system > Oct 4 20:22:09 mail postfix/master[47115]: fatal: open lock file > /var/db/postfix/master.lock: cannot open file: Permission denied > > [root@mail /]# ls -ld /var/db/postfix/ > drwx------ 2 postfix wheel 512 Oct 4 20:16 /var/db/postfix/ > > The "mail_owner" directive is set to "postfix" in main.cf > > Is there some things to set up after the "make install" ? Did I miss > something ? > > I'm running FreeBSD-7.2-RELEASE, and Postfix(-2.5.6,1) is started inside a > jail. > > Thanks for your help :) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" The file isn't created by "make install". If I create it with permissions 6= 66=20 and postfix as owner, I get the same error message... 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Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBA18FC18 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n94K1EDB030541; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:01:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n94K1EVZ030540; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:01:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:01:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910042001.n94K1EVZ030540@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 04 Oct 2009 22:01:30 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:01:31 -0000 Leandro F Silva wrote: > Hey guys, > > Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ .. The latest Linuxulator works quite well on -current with the Linux flash binary + pluginwrapper port, doesn't it? Works for me, at least. > We just have to create an account and voting on the link below =D > > http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060 There's no way I'm going to create an account at Adobe and give them my personal data. No thanks. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "And believe me, as a C++ programmer, I don't hesitate to question the decisions of language designers. After a decent amount of C++ exposure, Python's flaws seem ridiculously small." -- Ville Vainio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 21:06:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72C1106566B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f192.google.com (mail-qy0-f192.google.com [209.85.221.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946EB8FC08 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:06:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so2799639qyk.7 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:06:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=er3xOqHDva1lIxA4Qh+k6mU7Re8igiArcbcv12M8+ds=; b=fJas7VYMY1Dwv3nb2I+xb+UmLyiB2OBzlcLxG/FBQBQRfFom7m2436Vz092cYGteTn iWJT8wLINzEqot2TwdSbIXY21ZY4WouGrN47m7B94xcNcjRW/jsg2K1bf31xG3YAYff4 xTNoSH8hzDf3ARnYT6in5N9cQEZMzmXrBkvOc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Bhjfn3KzqySVXAC4lE/2a3GKXDC8mmNsCN0Q1vd+bIkYnbCLPUrnbuT03fURsVS/U7 eMdt/iNF1V4jbaN64KiXbIp6b6u4yHzTmslsqXTJ0W1y2AWVEYlr2zgcz7tIre6P/f90 ZVR4faaKR8JoIXG+hIqnDKranO8cADbW5zI1I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.111.85 with SMTP id r21mr3602463qcp.88.1254690396766; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:06:36 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640910041406m7755f879k19455f204202d927@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Xorg mouse not working after upgrade (console mouse works) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:06:37 -0000 I had everything (Xorg + console mouse) working perfectly on my 6.3 system with slightly outdated ports. Now I upgraded to 6.4 and the latest ports. I am getting some strange behavior with respect to the mouse. I did adjust some lines of rc.conf in the process of trying to debug the problem (moused used to be enabled and now it's not). I have a run-of-the-mill USB mouse hooked up. In the console (before I type "startx"), I am able to move the mouse cursor and copy+paste just fine in the console. My rc.conf looks like this (surprisingly, moused is NOT enalbed, and the console mouse DOES WORK FINE): defaultrouter="192.168.0.254" hostname="tweety.i" ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0" sshd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" # added by xorg-libraries port local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" hald_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" When I "startx", the mouse cursor won't move. I have nothing currently in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (it's missing). I tried "Xorg -configure" and copying the output of that to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but no change in behavior. I am also trying to add moused_enable="YES" to my rc.conf. Then when I try to start moused, I get the following error: Starting default moused:moused: unable to open /dev/psm0: No such file or directory Had a look in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, but cannot decide on what to change in /etc/rc.conf to make X work. I really see no point in starting moused if the console mouse is already working, however. Is that correct? When I generated the xorg.conf with "Xorg -configure", I did see this section in the xorg.conf: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Any ideas on how to get mouse to work in X? I had a good look at the Handbook but everything I tried there did not fix the problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 21:11:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB43106566B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3628FC19 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so1949941bwz.43 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:11:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lIhZvZLNLSJjXXUFtKsSxF16PxcQPtWPWzTrJkN2lBM=; b=gC+n3YVV04igjftFv9A9B2BbnULaxIlP6YjBbarpVtEl3TERmxpU/Jqoinp+vUA/ZD K3x9MLSlJ7aopVFJkIr3P64xi+kcALQANVmi9i78Uwb+j/rqoYjAGKyVLA/uKYm4k9+F D1cNOv7YKtFuFbaxOpHUOkvPSrcrfbQn9w+HI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vUvK0Nes82EUFstLMXhGGDkhAj/DTILAlgF2afxHWSqMW3u5/crjWNQr6HVIOnVD8K m2kaAXwPSYlIXDfVlScx9t3cUn8WG3YC6+FA71/7CXCesnf0OKs1LFv+CLLHHE9Bi7bF azfn5m3mzjce+aXiWPCQOMEtqiR24cAs5lGC8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.58.208 with SMTP id i16mr1592849fah.22.1254690677251; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:11:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <560f92640910041406m7755f879k19455f204202d927@mail.gmail.com> References: <560f92640910041406m7755f879k19455f204202d927@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:11:17 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310910041411l43981ee3l8ac1b7ee8275f9ab@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Nerius Landys Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg mouse not working after upgrade (console mouse works) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:11:18 -0000 Hi, On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Nerius Landys wrote: [snip] > > When I "startx", the mouse cursor won't move. =A0I have nothing > currently in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (it's missing). =A0I tried "Xorg > -configure" and copying the output of that to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but > no change in behavior. > [snip] Have a look at ports/UPDATING, 20090124 20090123. I, personally, am not a fan of requiring hald/dbus to enable my mouse. I added the following to my xorg.conf: Section "ServerFlags" option "AutoAddDevices" "off" option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" EndSection=09 HTH --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 21:54:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16457106568F for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from web65507.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65507.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B5D368FC19 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 46532 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Oct 2009 21:54:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1254693263; bh=WEeKGXk83vGQg1LBer0QvWPyczY0bm3uegwmX7UYPJI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kMugbchCZpwAKGWHHZOp4n7J62RbvJgRRMTlMKlW5ReB3Wo4notXbTYvl0yW44c3wD+QTBsmh1KWGkOyc2DUfsZtX05vMan+XHjAJ64OT1jyVBZ0aX+cjVC01c1gyDcx2JZh6RW5PzTN/cE7zTkRcy5ioCrvzjtGFNbWpd9MgnY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MbNU7JPJ+wC7/uaBeSToUsaFVRXyS7TpJy2dEz72xN8lmOyfEh/fxhxtlpJKTZIQC6iKadXjCr9VN/CORh5ROGzHGPOPQa/M5tpD5JOkx5Lqq1GxZWzjCsKOrZP3lzCs7LEMSkIP/lyTJQDEL6Gw2RarPRUXH6+iJB/W5H7V9Dw=; Message-ID: <798452.46523.qm@web65507.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: sw1DQK8VM1kpeFcgvoOfAMwdrsRNv7x1MyDNWsYuuwg5mntveXGiF_fLROwhvUBgAkIjOMA3hLxqzYQHVOTDGTU3HibSRLkR2ku.0DXDTMMj3xW75N0MVEwxUWzqQxphMBg5m43Hqj7GGXwnjQ5SGInqPRO6hDoq2H8Up5iI7zhFVirmbZv0znzhnC1Dw0BGcKOgg.GXJdyGENCTdBiPnDW76i27YY8wKtPBBYRkdwOzmzYt0rLFfKbvCkGwEXwaKWxR08_AFvwdXpDyjy.QwfW7uvuYrLSN0NvH2ywJcvEzlY7N9pma7mxdi.Xsj4keXoI3XXKEY2uxbewLqsvYtBgPWt3kwx6Dw8KzgEhKWjvsMBP84m456Vsm1mxyoJeUo0.F0Zwn37gDz16Dfz6mdftXxphVO1V.q56um_tco5k6ox0KIherp_Ok7Q-- Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65507.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:54:23 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:54:23 -0700 (PDT) From: James Phillips To: jhell In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:54:25 -0000 --- On Sun, 10/4/09, jhell wrote: > From: jhell > Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player > To: "James Phillips" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Received: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 1:07 PM > > > > On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:33 -0700, anti_spam256@ wrote: > > So how many different subjects are in here that don't > thread ? > > With all due respect: wheres Waldo ? > Most on-topic is probably the licensing issue: I like the GPLv3, but many BSD users don't like it for the same reasons. I don't want to publish comprehensive details about my (video format) idea until I have the format defined in a forward-compatible way. AS I am fantasy land, I think that people will try implementing incompatible versions as soon as it's published. The risk is that may happen anyway if my format is not "good enough." I haven't even done testing to find out how well compression is performed. Second-Worst case (mono white noise), I estimate that loss-less compression will only be able to compress frame changes to ~25% of the original frame size. Lossy compression will be a simple averaging of nearby pixels for (multiples of) ~4:1 compression. Mpeg is supposed to get up to 300:1. TL;DR: If you have to ask what the point is, it is probably off-topic and I can shut-up now. Regards, James Phillips __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 22:45:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E400106566B for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042F48FC1A for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n94MjFhl003326; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:45:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n94MjFJV003323; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:45:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:45:15 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Nerius Landys In-Reply-To: <560f92640910041406m7755f879k19455f204202d927@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <560f92640910041406m7755f879k19455f204202d927@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:45:15 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg mouse not working after upgrade (console mouse works) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 22:45:16 -0000 On Sun, 4 Oct 2009, Nerius Landys wrote: > I had everything (Xorg + console mouse) working perfectly on my 6.3 > system with slightly outdated ports. Now I upgraded to 6.4 and the > latest ports. I am getting some strange behavior with respect to the > mouse. I did adjust some lines of rc.conf in the process of trying to > debug the problem (moused used to be enabled and now it's not). > > I have a run-of-the-mill USB mouse hooked up. > > In the console (before I type "startx"), I am able to move the mouse > cursor and copy+paste just fine in the console. My rc.conf looks like > this (surprisingly, moused is NOT enalbed, and the console mouse DOES > WORK FINE): But if you check with ps, you'll find moused is running anyway. It gets started so that hotplugging USB mice works. See moused_nondefault_enable in rc.conf(5). Since you have a USB mouse, you might as well add moused_enable="YES" to rc.conf. > defaultrouter="192.168.0.254" > hostname="tweety.i" > ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0" > sshd_enable="YES" > usbd_enable="YES" > # added by xorg-libraries port > local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" > hald_enable="YES" > dbus_enable="YES" > > When I "startx", the mouse cursor won't move. I have nothing > currently in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (it's missing). Make sure that there isn't an xorg.conf somewhere else that's being used. /var/log/Xorg.0.log will show for sure: (==) Using config file: "/usr/local/lib/X11/xorg.conf" > I tried "Xorg -configure" and copying the output of that to > /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but no change in behavior. That produces an increasingly outdated config file. > I am also trying to add > > moused_enable="YES" > > to my rc.conf. Then when I try to start moused, I get the following error: > > Starting default moused:moused: unable to open /dev/psm0: No such > file or directory Remember that moused is already running, and you may have to kill it before trying to re-run it with /etc/rc.d/moused. Running 6.4 might make a difference, too; I don't know. > Had a look in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, but cannot decide on what to > change in /etc/rc.conf to make X work. > > I really see no point in starting moused if the console mouse is > already working, however. Is that correct? > > When I generated the xorg.conf with "Xorg -configure", I did see this > section in the xorg.conf: > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > EndSection > > Any ideas on how to get mouse to work in X? I had a good look at the > Handbook but everything I tried there did not fix the problem. Enable hal and dbus (and moused) in rc.conf. Make sure all are started and continue running; hal erroring out can be annoying. If you were running without an xorg.conf before, that should be enough. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 23:45:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDF7106566B; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 23:45:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [199.237.202.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891C08FC20; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 23:45:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [199.237.202.236]) by neu.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n94NjXH9086017; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 23:45:35 GMT Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 23:45:33 +0000 (GMT) From: AN To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSF 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at neu.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RealPlayer broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:45:37 -0000 On a new install of 8.0RC1, Realplayer fails to start with the following: # realplay Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module": libcanberra-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": libgnomebreakpad.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) uname -a FreeBSD core2.fu.bar 8.0-RC1 FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 #0: Thu Sep 17 20:45:19 UTC 2009 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 pkg_info: gnome2-2.26.3 pkg_info -xI linux linux-f10-atk-1.24.0 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-cairo-1.8.0 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-curl-7.19.4_4 The command line tool for transferring files with URL synta linux-f10-cyrus-sasl2-2.1.22 RFC 2222 SASL (Simple Authentication and Security Layer) (L linux-f10-expat-2.0.1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library (Linux linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r32 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin linux-f10-fontconfig-2.6.0 An XML-based font configuration API for X Windows (Linux Fe linux-f10-gtk2-2.14.7 GTK+ library, version 2.X (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-jpeg-6b RPM of the JPEG lib (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-libssh2-0.18 The library implementing the SSH2 protocol (Linux Fedora 10 linux-f10-nspr-4.7.4 Netscape Portable Runtime (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-nss-3.12.2.0 Network Security Services (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-openldap-2.4.12_1 Lightweight Directory Access Protocol libraries (Linux Fedo linux-f10-openssl-0.9.8g The OpenSSL toolkit (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-pango-1.22.3 The pango library (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-png-1.2.37 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-sqlite3-3.5.9_1 The library that implements an embeddable SQL database engi linux-f10-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 10) linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 10) linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks linux_base-f10-10_2 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode for i386/amd64 (L I have Googled, however there is no mention of a solution. Any help is appreciated. TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 4 23:45:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD421065672 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 23:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f192.google.com (mail-qy0-f192.google.com [209.85.221.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B8E8FC0C for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 23:45:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so2857981qyk.7 for ; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:45:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CUtzQow6qwHosbDSBxHFh17Z5x00JueRr0cYkwTdtys=; b=ORk6JXmGUhMKQdBGX9XeSoulnf9tVqnK4l+GuZeLiuoRMafqQWc6QEoaJaBhStMZmD njkLNNUmpeG/Sq0ugBMty7VjQTL2/3KtU4YvQc2N9r+8XMviKVk88q+oFbYViHjJJoP/ smruCI/iGvsIhtF8+gbdEBcATQShggimxbyXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=mtdmoDii/bpiLvRkqbbbDfKIyP5hSvTN+lV83a0VUU06SKk1jvHvmAcs1gCTvf16Cg s08LWCtL2czipA9yZZHpLHovEt8FRl5rWTnFjKKrqcdx9bGa/wfhcGc9+1sPKW2Ghr8R 046yQ0VraGszyLrynFT/7QDwu4Hz+T4e/q/yk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.45.138 with SMTP id e10mr3570454qcf.91.1254699621031; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:40:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <560f92640910041406m7755f879k19455f204202d927@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:40:20 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640910041640s3f754ffetf67f94d3c285c600@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg mouse not working after upgrade (console mouse works) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:45:42 -0000 Thanks for the tips guys. I had a close look at both suggestions. After further experimentation I found that this line in rc.conf: usbd_enable="YES" was causing the mouse pointer not to work in Xorg. Simply removing that line, all works perfectly. So my end-result rc.conf is: defaultrouter="192.168.0.254" hostname="tweety.i" ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0" sshd_enable="YES" # added by xorg-libraries port local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" hald_enable="YES" dbus_enable="YES" I found that adding the moused start just adds more confusion, especially because moused is already started automatically because of, I guess, the hald. I just hope I'm not missing out on not having usbd_enable. Kinda confusing stuff, I'm sure it's smoother in 7.x or 8.0. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 00:29:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A823B1065676 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0EA8FC08 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n950Tw4D003669; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:29:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n950Tw7M003666; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:29:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 18:29:58 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Nerius Landys In-Reply-To: <560f92640910041640s3f754ffetf67f94d3c285c600@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <560f92640910041406m7755f879k19455f204202d927@mail.gmail.com> <560f92640910041640s3f754ffetf67f94d3c285c600@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:29:58 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg mouse not working after upgrade (console mouse works) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:29:59 -0000 On Sun, 4 Oct 2009, Nerius Landys wrote: > Thanks for the tips guys. I had a close look at both suggestions. > > After further experimentation I found that this line in rc.conf: > > usbd_enable="YES" > > was causing the mouse pointer not to work in Xorg. Simply removing > that line, all works perfectly. Huh. usbd went away at some point around 6.4, so that line shouldn't do anything. I think. > So my end-result rc.conf is: > > defaultrouter="192.168.0.254" > hostname="tweety.i" > ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0" > sshd_enable="YES" > # added by xorg-libraries port > local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" > hald_enable="YES" > dbus_enable="YES" > > I found that adding the moused start just adds more confusion, > especially because moused is already started automatically because of, > I guess, the hald. > > I just hope I'm not missing out on not having usbd_enable. > > Kinda confusing stuff, I'm sure it's smoother in 7.x or 8.0. > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 00:54:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26BF106566B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633C68FC12 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:54:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n950qLep036486; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:52:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:54:03 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Oliver Fromme Message-ID: <20091005005402.GA41636@thought.org> References: <28f938b10910021725p7e615617xf21639d3fb7fcc9d@mail.gmail.com> <200910042001.n94K1EVZ030540@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200910042001.n94K1EVZ030540@lurza.secnetix.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Voting for a native i386/amd64 flash player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:54:09 -0000 On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 10:01:14PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Leandro F Silva wrote: > > Hey guys, > > > > Let's vote to have a native i386 / amd64 flash player \o/ .. > > The latest Linuxulator works quite well on -current with > the Linux flash binary + pluginwrapper port, doesn't it? > Works for me, at least. > > > We just have to create an account and voting on the link below =D > > > > http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060 > > There's no way I'm going to create an account at Adobe > and give them my personal data. No thanks. > > Best regards > Oliver > > sorry if this is just a ``me too'', but i cannot wait for flashit to die [an overdue death] gary ps i'll sign up wherever i can! > -- > Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. > Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: > secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- > chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart > > FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd > > "And believe me, as a C++ programmer, I don't hesitate to question > the decisions of language designers. After a decent amount of C++ > exposure, Python's flaws seem ridiculously small." -- Ville Vainio > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 08:08:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7424106568D for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD638FC17 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so2119426bwz.43 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:08:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=7ky403Q2GMZPOK8LY8DJ103tGVfer/ACbYEHSkreLU8=; b=dCOnKRuA8S7UhTdohHK1dQrjL1m25kN62DGAtVMuzAvrSWx/kKgUes2tE1r9etFnx6 xYFa7saqrcTPKt0+zVICqcPXt50TEGggQykOMMlA+2gY0dSAVRZzsA0g/b6S1yvCfD0M /VPTuu0ynSRvWrKhQmXI1y1b/TlSes2O4RoGk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=BrW87dNy4bQrjkc5boj2TbBNEq+4fHhvk8m6jK12NS8Lxn0N1ZcXoO6F6/Xm1wwUxj HTxQoy+d/X3Q/J9SyvCQLHHSTg33mpD+zWniRkqxGOCWcYKBdXj2SWc182d6xdfSRY/A 1z02pPuP8/nKY7TNrUs4qqJBonleNKzpSHxLs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.8.13 with SMTP id f13mr3671159bkf.150.1254730126119; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:08:46 -0700 (PDT) From: APseudoUtopia Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 04:08:26 -0400 Message-ID: <27ade5280910050108w212a8d85h6071b5211f19425f@mail.gmail.com> To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Jails: /bin/tcsh: Permission Denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:08:47 -0000 Hey list, I'm setting up jails on my system. I started with a httpd jail for nginx and php to run in. I used ezjail to create it. I went through all the steps, and got a jail setup and working. I've logged in and out several times and installed a couple ports within the jail. I then added a non-privileged user by running "adduser" as root. However, that is when the problem came up. For some reason, I cannot switch to the unprivileged user. The shell is giving me a "Permission Denied" error. # su - jailuser su: no directory # su jailuser su: /bin/tcsh: Permission denied The line in /etc/passwd of the jail: jailuser:*:1001:1001:User &:/home/jailuser:/bin/tcsh The host and jail are running 7.2-RELEASE-p4. /bin/tcsh is listed in /etc/shells. I tried running "pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd" to no avail. Any ideas on why I am getting a permission denied error? More info, if needed: Mount on the host system: /dev/ad2s1a on / (ufs, local, noatime) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ufs/tmp on /tmp (ufs, local, noatime, soft-updates) /dev/ad2s1f on /usr (ufs, local, noatime, soft-updates) /dev/ad2s1e on /var (ufs, local, noatime, soft-updates) /usr/jails/basejail on /usr/jails/httpd/basejail (nullfs, local, read-only) devfs on /usr/jails/httpd/dev (devfs, local) Mount on the jail: /dev/ad2s1f on / (ufs, local, noatime, soft-updates) /etc/fstab.httpd on host: /usr/jails/basejail /usr/jails/httpd/basejail nullfs ro 0 0 # ls -al /usr/jails/ drwx------ 9 root wheel 512 Oct 5 05:34 basejail drwx------ 3 root wheel 512 Oct 5 05:34 flavours drwx------ 12 root wheel 512 Oct 5 07:49 httpd drwxr-xr-x 12 root wheel 512 Oct 5 05:34 newjail Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 08:51:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C181065679 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41AD18FC17 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so2139475bwz.43 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.153.27 with SMTP id i27mr3769546bkw.155.1254732681206; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? (host-82-44-127-245.static.telewest.net [82.44.127.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm6028575fkq.0.2009.10.05.01.51.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC9B387.4040800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:51:19 +0100 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AC07E69.30800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <6201873e0909280710n2a5fc7beo99706e1b87080f73@mail.gmail.com> <4AC0D9CF.6000309@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <6201873e0909281056m1660351arc38c5faa975fef02@mail.gmail.com> <4AC326DA.1070005@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <6201873e0909300555x3721c3ccq45c604bd28c1f8c@mail.gmail.com> <4AC36604.1050606@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mojo fms Subject: Re: fix remote degraded gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:51:23 -0000 mojo fms wrote: ....... > > > What about shrinking the old mirror drive a few megs so its smaller than > the new one? > The original problem has gone away for the moment as my hoter found an AAJS drive with the same number of sectors and the mirror synchronized fine. I looked around for ways to shrink the slice, but didn't discover anything very authoritative or easy. Is there a slice reduction beast? -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 09:43:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854171065672 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E068FC1D for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n959gudU058785; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:43:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n959guoP058784; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:42:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:42:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910050942.n959guoP058784@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4AC9B387.4040800@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:43:11 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: fix remote degraded gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:43:13 -0000 Robin Becker wrote: > mojo fms wrote: > ....... > > > > > > What about shrinking the old mirror drive a few megs so its smaller than > > the new one? > > The original problem has gone away for the moment as my hoter found an AAJS > drive with the same number of sectors and the mirror synchronized fine. > > I looked around for ways to shrink the slice, but didn't discover anything very > authoritative or easy. Is there a slice reduction beast? You can shrink slices and partitions, but you cannot shrink file systems. In theory you could write a shrinkfs tool, but it's more complicated than growfs(8) so nobody has bitten the bullet yet, given the fact that disk sizes tend to grow most of the time, but rarely ever shrink. Apart from that, there is no way to shrink a gmirror, as far as I know. The best way to resolve the problem is to create a new mirror on the new (smaller) drive, copy all data over to the new mirror, boot from the new drive, destroy the old mirror and insert the old disk into the new mirror. I've done that procedure several times; it takes some time and involves a short downtime (for reboot), but it works fine. You can do that remotely without single user mode, but it's always better to be prepared to have access to the console. And of course, you should always have good backups. A RAID is never a substitute for a backup. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "I learned Java 3 years before Python. It was my language of choice. It took me two weekends with Python before I was more productive with it than with Java." -- Anthony Roberts From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 09:50:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792BF106568B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA6F8FC27 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP22 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 5 Oct 2009 02:50:10 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.183.172] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.183.172]) by BLU0-SMTP22.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 5 Oct 2009 02:50:09 -0700 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9AE7C22830 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:50:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 05:50:08 -0400 From: carmel_ny To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEX+/v7++v6YOTrq8PCcuIX989UvOSj++v0BNCbpAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1dU8GOqzAMNKIoV1bvwD1i0ysqrHplIdBrVSX7ATSbd03VVvn9tQNtQy0hjAdn7LED4AAcPtWm9RV+MPSfxhBLx9ajd6X/ngB6/mTwnRSZua7i7Ca+0ctZKo4Qmz+JY13X6I3nFZBxIYW1PbgfQ5RP8g0XlltEWGf3cV03joYpRnFbvYDKbXjZlXyyhEZA4lI+cN3NaVXE4VKjSwTExO10eTEkkJVqIAD5z0nUBQJluQDRSQjcrBiHAJxZlAH5CUMBMC7OcJ4LMQNnxhZ1HYPscMc6J4UlWRMNwzOpCcAHKSICd1EDn83abdREIbXsHkD1OinP1aCUCOEVRaa1lMcvywUWdYgk13JQUpYNKmvXQ8Kw5ML9YI5h8SakctBc7E/IYuLhYd/zZIk+1gM1vNweQBvHE0j+oYah3sMqAytQYlZk6+ANaaawJdu3OFzYGMZ3iGpa3qMlq9ZH0VZTgrCtw/ngdYkEIIpSbP1bWQAdFdX9vocBdkH2qVjVmuMu3gI5rjs814EUdrCZgWlPaxZZ3RiLFUtr+ud0PXwp2dnQSNXgePt6AZpBj6UMJ7VQkzN4utVeaSW1Dhn/kblGrKeMvNGnzwX4zuEDarYz1KdPtR60Gul0Gued+515SJXhCsl+Tx/3kY/UDvicPll9mfu50t3tvQ/thZpJYgeuwdSKNJ6tCD98MCgoxLDaPxbwqqwPWaWiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Oct 2009 09:50:09.0843 (UTC) FILETIME=[39FD4030:01CA45A1] Subject: mounting card reader & hald X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:50:11 -0000 I want to be able to auto mount a card reader when a card is inserted. I can mount it manually using: "mount_msdosfs /dev/da1s1 /mnt". I thought that 'hald' would handle the auto-mounting of the reader; however, I probably have that misconfigured. This is on a FreeBSD-7.2 system. -- Carmel carmel@hotmail.com May your camel be as swift as the wind. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 09:52:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AD9106566B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBF28FC18 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n959pkrI059228; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:52:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n959pkRA059227; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:51:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:51:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910050951.n959pkRA059227@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, apseudoutopia@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <27ade5280910050108w212a8d85h6071b5211f19425f@mail.gmail.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:52:02 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Jails: /bin/tcsh: Permission Denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, apseudoutopia@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:52:04 -0000 APseudoUtopia wrote: > I'm setting up jails on my system. I started with a httpd jail for > nginx and php to run in. I used ezjail to create it. I went through > all the steps, and got a jail setup and working. I've logged in and > out several times and installed a couple ports within the jail. I then > added a non-privileged user by running "adduser" as root. However, > that is when the problem came up. For some reason, I cannot switch to > the unprivileged user. The shell is giving me a "Permission Denied" > error. What are the permissions on /bin/tcsh inside the jail? Is it executable? Are the permissions of all of its libraries correct? ("ldd /bin/tcsh" will list the libs.) Are the permissions on the home directory correct? If everything else fails, trace the shell inside the jail (with strace, truss or ktrace). It will list the exact system call that fails. By the way, I recommend that jails which contain daemons (such as webservers, databases etc.) do not contain login accounts. In fact, I never put /bin/tcsh inside a jail that contains a webserver. Apache certainly doesn't need it. Some ports do need /bin/csh during the build process, but for building ports I recommend to use a separate jail anyway, create packages and pkg_add them in the actual webserver jail. Just my 2 cents. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd $ dd if=/dev/urandom of=test.pl count=1 $ file test.pl test.pl: perl script text executable From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 13:05:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FAA1065670; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3CF8FC0C; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1MunFs-000DcS-9z; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:05:32 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov To: AN References: Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:05:32 +0400 In-Reply-To: (AN's message of "Sun, 4 Oct 2009 23:45:33 +0000 (GMT)") Message-ID: <54942179@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RealPlayer broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:05:34 -0000 On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 23:45:33 +0000 (GMT) AN wrote: > On a new install of 8.0RC1, Realplayer fails to start with the following: > # realplay > Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module": > libcanberra-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such > file or directory > Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "gnomebreakpad": > libgnomebreakpad.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or > directory Those are only diagnostic messages seen when one runs gnome. > Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) While this is very strange error which I couldn't reproduce until tomorrow. It occures when using gnome (gdm) and nvidia graphics card (well, even with vesa video mode). If I use twm RealPlayer is just fine. I've got that hardware for a couples of hours only and can't investigate it further. > uname -a > FreeBSD core2.fu.bar 8.0-RC1 FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 #0: Thu Sep 17 20:45:19 > UTC 2009 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > i386 > pkg_info: > gnome2-2.26.3 > pkg_info -xI linux [linux stuff looks good to me] > I have Googled, however there is no mention of a solution. Any help > is appreciated. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 13:20:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D7C106568D for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:20:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A077C8FC12 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:20:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so2958935fxm.36 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:20:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6hQy5hcLttGzmtxfHYp9EbgA7cW+k2uR4ChiavEfjtQ=; b=G5OF3T0ZdiSm+2BeNQzUFw0Tol2yD95LuNEvkf/MC88OzCeSTZPF3BpAjeeeFPMUrl 9nMe7r3Mfh9BfLi6DXStj+XrNq7OeIvWIhFiY8BR03vog2Hzjfw7fkKpv6ucUsSB6pdQ MmMY+s8zRJZI0m+wlJulWbktmvsxhsiLHCnHw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kJn+q71uwa9LdlfMiE8ncdGjPSosy2jIiamobqKIQQ7u1aJiNsSLyFM3rVaxTsvIyO 0uX4cnEIzI0hv9x0ZkDEslX+qkf8ln/lCFuMrSgMkjVIdXaA55PHCZiCUzmR1LUG/LTO qN4bweBl/FRaq7ovVmVUjfHEGairldjb6A35Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.162.143 with SMTP id v15mr4018060bkx.50.1254748811566; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:20:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200910050951.n959pkRA059227@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <27ade5280910050108w212a8d85h6071b5211f19425f@mail.gmail.com> <200910050951.n959pkRA059227@lurza.secnetix.de> From: APseudoUtopia Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:19:51 -0400 Message-ID: <27ade5280910050619v6bd48173sb5099ba79c5ca1d3@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, olli@lurza.secnetix.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Jails: /bin/tcsh: Permission Denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:20:13 -0000 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Oliver Fromme wrot= e: > APseudoUtopia wrote: > =C2=A0> I'm setting up jails on my system. I started with a httpd jail fo= r > =C2=A0> nginx and php to run in. I used ezjail to create it. I went throu= gh > =C2=A0> all the steps, and got a jail setup and working. I've logged in a= nd > =C2=A0> out several times and installed a couple ports within the jail. I= then > =C2=A0> added a non-privileged user by running "adduser" as root. However= , > =C2=A0> that is when the problem came up. For some reason, I cannot switc= h to > =C2=A0> the unprivileged user. The shell is giving me a "Permission Denie= d" > =C2=A0> error. > > What are the permissions on /bin/tcsh inside the jail? > Is it executable? =C2=A0Are the permissions of all of its > libraries correct? =C2=A0("ldd /bin/tcsh" will list the libs.) > Are the permissions on the home directory correct? > > If everything else fails, trace the shell inside the jail > (with strace, truss or ktrace). =C2=A0It will list the exact > system call that fails. > > By the way, I recommend that jails which contain daemons > (such as webservers, databases etc.) do not contain login > accounts. =C2=A0In fact, I never put /bin/tcsh inside a jail > that contains a webserver. =C2=A0Apache certainly doesn't need > it. =C2=A0Some ports do need /bin/csh during the build process, > but for building ports I recommend to use a separate jail > anyway, create packages and pkg_add them in the actual > webserver jail. > > Just my 2 cents. > > Best regards > =C2=A0 Oliver > > Hi, Thanks for the tips. I'm new to jails, and I didn't think it was possible to build a jail without tcsh. What shell do you use then? Just /bin/sh? /bin/tcsh works for fine for root. I log into the jail by using the "ezjail-admin console" option, which in turn executes /usr/bin/login. It logs in as root with a working tcsh shell. I've even changed the prompt of the shell in /root/.cshrc within the jail. I don't think it's the tcsh binary itself, rather some other permission. However, the information you asked for is below. As a matter-of-fact, I first ran into this problem when my web server (nginx) received a "permission denied" error for every file. While debugging it, I was asked to su to the "www" user. This is when I ran into this problem of getting a permission denied error for tcsh. -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 311400 Oct 5 05:34 /bin/tcsh /bin/tcsh: libncurses.so.7 =3D> /lib/libncurses.so.7 (0x280c5000) libcrypt.so.4 =3D> /lib/libcrypt.so.4 (0x28104000) libc.so.7 =3D> /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2811d000) -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 258572 Oct 5 05:34 /lib/libncurses.so.7 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 32020 Oct 5 05:34 /lib/libcrypt.so.4 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 993092 Oct 5 05:34 /lib/libc.so.7 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Oct 5 07:49 home drwxr-xr-x 2 jailuser jailuser 512 Oct 5 07:49 jailuser The truss trace is on a pastebin (the output seemed too long for an email) located at http://pastebin.ca/1594445 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 13:23:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEA81065670 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC098FC18 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MunXH-000KLr-TG; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:23:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D83D35860E7; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4AC9F353.3000808@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:23:31 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vinzstyle References: <200910042041.32454.vinzstyle@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <200910042041.32454.vinzstyle@free.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Postfix doesn't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:23:39 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Vinzstyle wrote: > Hi, > > I installed Postfix with PCRE support from the ports collection, but I get this > error when I try to start it : > > Oct 4 20:22:09 mail postfix/postfix-script[47114]: starting the Postfix mail > system > Oct 4 20:22:09 mail postfix/master[47115]: fatal: open lock file > /var/db/postfix/master.lock: cannot open file: Permission denied > > [root@mail /]# ls -ld /var/db/postfix/ > drwx------ 2 postfix wheel 512 Oct 4 20:16 /var/db/postfix/ > > The "mail_owner" directive is set to "postfix" in main.cf > > Is there some things to set up after the "make install" ? Did I miss something > ? > > I'm running FreeBSD-7.2-RELEASE, and Postfix(-2.5.6,1) is started inside a > jail. > > Thanks for your help :) Hi there, Whenever I run into problems like this and I can't easily resolve them, I turn to truss (http://bit.ly/yipvq) or strace (http://bit.ly/1oXQ4v) so I can see exactly what's happening to cause the permission denied message. If you want, post output from those tools back here, and I'm sure someone can help you narrow the problem down. Cheers, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFKyfNS0sRouByUApARAloSAJ4m2N1prTe0UiabVrlkTytmcd9jqACeO2hm DO3gs2YDX/bWYNhJnsdV+1Y= =QtfE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 13:24:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA18D106566B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8B68FC27 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so2287006bwz.43 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:24:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ughANCupiy0ne+O5fr12aI9PAvnokA/JK0r8kI5WoCU=; b=bJ6fEEgv7CXa0Wys10z1uJYKINTgdBOGxnwgcYgsygCTkdpjLwiFNIg9KMZMo2NhJH dCzNcqHjijFfZk3wdnywb5ifztWxEcRDlWnJn7qeg8Wm4caOAJk8KvqFV22qSK/9R5eJ E1Ihd8nknEMU4loHC4FKOh9081KAYfcW/uMXs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qO0yRFA3Z1+dviIlT64TfziwIgWRcVN9IVmsTD56SCfW4pov8FayFxlm4euhnHu4Ns yo0FOAF2etCSmkJzirSWaZQNTIryyjPGbB3v+WT7iZumLEbTCFJ7WHDS4LYejNEeGPHD 4k5zKBlKEBBne5AfwtM+t16Y3QEHLiU2pPAKA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.7.88 with SMTP id c24mr4019903bkc.176.1254749086178; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:24:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <27ade5280910050619v6bd48173sb5099ba79c5ca1d3@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280910050108w212a8d85h6071b5211f19425f@mail.gmail.com> <200910050951.n959pkRA059227@lurza.secnetix.de> <27ade5280910050619v6bd48173sb5099ba79c5ca1d3@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:24:26 -0400 Message-ID: <27ade5280910050624w366d05f1yf9db6158db626ba3@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, olli@lurza.secnetix.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Jails: /bin/tcsh: Permission Denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:24:48 -0000 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:19 AM, APseudoUtopia wro= te: > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Oliver Fromme wr= ote: >> APseudoUtopia wrote: >> =C2=A0> I'm setting up jails on my system. I started with a httpd jail f= or >> =C2=A0> nginx and php to run in. I used ezjail to create it. I went thro= ugh >> =C2=A0> all the steps, and got a jail setup and working. I've logged in = and >> =C2=A0> out several times and installed a couple ports within the jail. = I then >> =C2=A0> added a non-privileged user by running "adduser" as root. Howeve= r, >> =C2=A0> that is when the problem came up. For some reason, I cannot swit= ch to >> =C2=A0> the unprivileged user. The shell is giving me a "Permission Deni= ed" >> =C2=A0> error. >> >> What are the permissions on /bin/tcsh inside the jail? >> Is it executable? =C2=A0Are the permissions of all of its >> libraries correct? =C2=A0("ldd /bin/tcsh" will list the libs.) >> Are the permissions on the home directory correct? >> >> If everything else fails, trace the shell inside the jail >> (with strace, truss or ktrace). =C2=A0It will list the exact >> system call that fails. >> >> By the way, I recommend that jails which contain daemons >> (such as webservers, databases etc.) do not contain login >> accounts. =C2=A0In fact, I never put /bin/tcsh inside a jail >> that contains a webserver. =C2=A0Apache certainly doesn't need >> it. =C2=A0Some ports do need /bin/csh during the build process, >> but for building ports I recommend to use a separate jail >> anyway, create packages and pkg_add them in the actual >> webserver jail. >> >> Just my 2 cents. >> >> Best regards >> =C2=A0 Oliver >> >> > > Hi, > > Thanks for the tips. I'm new to jails, and I didn't think it was > possible to build a jail without tcsh. What shell do you use then? > Just /bin/sh? > > /bin/tcsh works for fine for root. I log into the jail by using the > "ezjail-admin console" option, which in turn executes /usr/bin/login. > It logs in as root with a working tcsh shell. I've even changed the > prompt of the shell in /root/.cshrc within the jail. I don't think > it's the tcsh binary itself, rather some other permission. However, > the information you asked for is below. > > As a matter-of-fact, I first ran into this problem when my web server > (nginx) received a "permission denied" error for every file. =C2=A0While > debugging it, I was asked to su to the "www" user. This is when I ran > into this problem of getting a permission denied error for tcsh. > > -r-xr-xr-x =C2=A02 root =C2=A0wheel =C2=A0311400 Oct =C2=A05 05:34 /bin/t= csh > > /bin/tcsh: > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0libncurses.so.7 =3D> /lib/libncurses.so.7 (0x2= 80c5000) > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0libcrypt.so.4 =3D> /lib/libcrypt.so.4 (0x28104= 000) > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0libc.so.7 =3D> /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2811d000) > > -r--r--r-- =C2=A01 root =C2=A0wheel =C2=A0258572 Oct =C2=A05 05:34 /lib/l= ibncurses.so.7 > -r--r--r-- =C2=A01 root =C2=A0wheel =C2=A032020 Oct =C2=A05 05:34 /lib/li= bcrypt.so.4 > -r--r--r-- =C2=A01 root =C2=A0wheel =C2=A0993092 Oct =C2=A05 05:34 /lib/l= ibc.so.7 > > drwxr-xr-x =C2=A0 3 root =C2=A0wheel =C2=A0512 Oct =C2=A05 07:49 home > drwxr-xr-x =C2=A02 jailuser =C2=A0jailuser =C2=A0512 Oct =C2=A05 07:49 ja= iluser > > The truss trace is on a pastebin (the output seemed too long for an > email) located at http://pastebin.ca/1594445 > Sorry to reply again, but I have some further information. I used chpass to change the shell of the jailuser account. I tried /bin/sh, /bin/csh, /bin/tcsh, and /sbin/nologin. All of those gave the same "Permission denied" error. Even nologin gave "Permission denied" instead of "This account is currently not available." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 13:28:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82F8106566B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7FF8FC17 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so2965741fxm.36 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:28:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=i3sCV4WCJ3UtTM3mivKhaaPdkMidtcjGuoetQbG4kIE=; b=kvoEB04J3NmpUYYSD3Ikv6zUC3Jb621KM87EE84+HPv83TvUsShvcXcN0B+ayU3QfU hnBsYtm+QE3yDSdVL6gDBiJVQz/uvbh6G4lS6bOiHMQA6gfFnDapW/xd3ina5UQM/SZL fDOIU1Fqo/FFNU80sPZAPnMJ7ufwXE9ijBlGQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=q9NPqLPRurXp0BPyfCXvKog1imXhlEFQnFK3Erw4eHforVxMR7rc+GavAJzr6wJ/lS Oufgj/RZdZ8V11BCUtqiuCrFUc1uyyxB5ON5DNUESBdnFHl7mFrZ42frX3FmwKcqU+FZ 8JgQYl3xo2k6By420qcHwthG/aCDtIwgF7Zfw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.14.215 with SMTP id h23mr4067faa.59.1254749310432; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:28:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <27ade5280910050624w366d05f1yf9db6158db626ba3@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280910050108w212a8d85h6071b5211f19425f@mail.gmail.com> <200910050951.n959pkRA059227@lurza.secnetix.de> <27ade5280910050619v6bd48173sb5099ba79c5ca1d3@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280910050624w366d05f1yf9db6158db626ba3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:28:30 +0000 Message-ID: <4ad871310910050628v642e4fd9wf6f8a983559b67bc@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: APseudoUtopia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jails: /bin/tcsh: Permission Denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:28:31 -0000 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:24 PM, APseudoUtopia wrote: [snip] > > Sorry to reply again, but I have some further information. > > I used chpass to change the shell of the jailuser account. I tried > /bin/sh, /bin/csh, /bin/tcsh, and /sbin/nologin. All of those gave the > same "Permission denied" error. Even nologin gave "Permission denied" > instead of "This account is currently not available." What happens with /bin/false ? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 13:30:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E3F106568B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:30:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B7F8FC08 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so2290956bwz.43 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:30:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=7JzMkapCgpGRINhTKzVsSQ47ok/8CZWCTWxjwUedTWY=; b=QHv3h5xfKwsIxJmuTeQ7RNDDePRTT43Vv2Ml/+Hyl6HS0gVw11WP1idacjUygaYhm2 hU3oJJgjrl2DCnnJ9FD8t6enSGRAsFyRqi05UUHbI5l8KGxtSCfNN8ZN8HhOFrjoPL6s 7NJvH2zu5dnGTExlpch/b0iumDKns+ArxA0ZE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=VUQODas6nSDshzTnOqMsCtwLI9JIZrTQ/+YNLUOv9sI33QKCRipwHp+xgxdYtTGlBb bfQzVcvzNtj11eEhZ9QP0FrxlCVVseICL+ebuNyvVdEKJfeWmj8lwEwqUdDcfo+TUiQS /BAAkbLtooE/gSdpY48HJY5jXryxuFw4nn6XE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.15.16 with SMTP id i16mr3973628bka.72.1254749425402; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:30:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310910050628v642e4fd9wf6f8a983559b67bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280910050108w212a8d85h6071b5211f19425f@mail.gmail.com> <200910050951.n959pkRA059227@lurza.secnetix.de> <27ade5280910050619v6bd48173sb5099ba79c5ca1d3@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280910050624w366d05f1yf9db6158db626ba3@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310910050628v642e4fd9wf6f8a983559b67bc@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:30:04 -0400 Message-ID: <27ade5280910050630r47a34e5bteea1df81b44e0457@mail.gmail.com> To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jails: /bin/tcsh: Permission Denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:30:27 -0000 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Glen Barber wrote: > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:24 PM, APseudoUtopia wrote: > > [snip] > >> >> Sorry to reply again, but I have some further information. >> >> I used chpass to change the shell of the jailuser account. I tried >> /bin/sh, /bin/csh, /bin/tcsh, and /sbin/nologin. All of those gave the >> same "Permission denied" error. Even nologin gave "Permission denied" >> instead of "This account is currently not available." > > What happens with /bin/false ? > > -- > Glen Barber > Same thing: jailuser:*:1001:1001:User &:/home/jailuser:/bin/false # su jailuser su: /bin/false: Permission denied From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 13:33:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2833B1065672 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:33:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73A18FC1C for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:33:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so2293514bwz.43 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:33:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=P/PmOS30qhX7wFnwLzY7igzhdVj9mFoZZ3VUWZT/td0=; b=lSzt+k4iXF7J+N6k388C0AqCzbfzoxt/3u5FqMuHaA8oYrYFztukO2YyJlx1Xxznxj DrOuH4kYKKhNpuqsmmqVd1qCKkjpttY8eGI5PWd4Dci9HWb+Ct7PLBBqKtYGxneuzUbL yEIYJO69fDih2RJEEeIId0ehu6AqYSUsNGlgM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ag3GzunwoB7LRibCgbMQTKDbwl20SZWm32V5COYrdgDDc19ISix5qSz39Kk+6GAC33 hUWdx9NUuP2BsmTGZ0ym/cTQSAdcECeJo/uynEQ+HVBcC5aGm6orKTjd0PbLac9RZ6EG OUh4LHi+QK17JkyA336cy36Cye7OQlRJnCrnU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.17.144 with SMTP id s16mr12347faa.41.1254749634663; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:33:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <27ade5280910050630r47a34e5bteea1df81b44e0457@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280910050108w212a8d85h6071b5211f19425f@mail.gmail.com> <200910050951.n959pkRA059227@lurza.secnetix.de> <27ade5280910050619v6bd48173sb5099ba79c5ca1d3@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280910050624w366d05f1yf9db6158db626ba3@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310910050628v642e4fd9wf6f8a983559b67bc@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280910050630r47a34e5bteea1df81b44e0457@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:33:54 +0000 Message-ID: <4ad871310910050633n16bd69c1oa523add59b3468c3@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: APseudoUtopia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jails: /bin/tcsh: Permission Denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:33:56 -0000 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:30 PM, APseudoUtopia wrote: > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Glen Barber wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:24 PM, APseudoUtopia wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>> >>> Sorry to reply again, but I have some further information. >>> >>> I used chpass to change the shell of the jailuser account. I tried >>> /bin/sh, /bin/csh, /bin/tcsh, and /sbin/nologin. All of those gave the >>> same "Permission denied" error. Even nologin gave "Permission denied" >>> instead of "This account is currently not available." >> >> What happens with /bin/false ? >> >> -- >> Glen Barber >> > > Same thing: > > jailuser:*:1001:1001:User &:/home/jailuser:/bin/false > > # su jailuser > su: /bin/false: Permission denied > Have you created another user to test? FWIW, I was wrong about the location of 'false' - it is /usr/bin/false, not /bin/false - you should have received 'command not found'. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 13:35:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5FD106568B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B498FC14 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so2294637bwz.43 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:35:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1rpxaDUOXwGgWEjUXNWcbSrOD4gnT3DhIh+0YdQM9OM=; b=fR/Ujmcl7n5KIj21EdtIdFutNhSyMH2jhGD/C7Mwkvh9C2+++fsOCyURWqyiXa8enw NeN2VIpE+8z96KaDZHqCA0KQpIiYIPJ7U9qLgke0DRAqXzAwjI6UzSDn8NIxxowHk4U5 K7RKdUEffSuMXISZeRbxQQI6n7Nk3h2yghUj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=okP7jUBu6EEY8rSVM5MRW2OlsuObDvR2cxg6jki2PkSJHXXSE45fgcf1VWbC+h9IZR 5BfsEzzOiXc8bGaK4x1jsZdzH4BW57frLMU2Fw2Mbki/gH7/83TdjsNqGwwImVaAU7VU lhFgtLzyHCFMxVNg0i05gWlfPsqFY0zlqwdF0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.3.155 with SMTP id 27mr21913fan.12.1254749733721; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:35:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310910050633n16bd69c1oa523add59b3468c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280910050108w212a8d85h6071b5211f19425f@mail.gmail.com> <200910050951.n959pkRA059227@lurza.secnetix.de> <27ade5280910050619v6bd48173sb5099ba79c5ca1d3@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280910050624w366d05f1yf9db6158db626ba3@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310910050628v642e4fd9wf6f8a983559b67bc@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280910050630r47a34e5bteea1df81b44e0457@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310910050633n16bd69c1oa523add59b3468c3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:35:33 +0000 Message-ID: <4ad871310910050635h7878fd3g5902097b18545aa7@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: APseudoUtopia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jails: /bin/tcsh: Permission Denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:35:35 -0000 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Glen Barber wrote: [snip] >> >> jailuser:*:1001:1001:User &:/home/jailuser:/bin/false >> >> # su jailuser >> su: /bin/false: Permission denied >> Also, check the permissions on /home/jailuser -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 13:56:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D301065672; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DDB8FC17; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:56:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Muo32-000EEm-I2; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:56:20 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov To: AN References: <54942179@bb.ipt.ru> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:56:21 +0400 In-Reply-To: <54942179@bb.ipt.ru> (Boris Samorodov's message of "Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:05:32 +0400") Message-ID: <44225914@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RealPlayer broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:56:22 -0000 On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:05:32 +0400 Boris Samorodov wrote: > It occures when using gnome (gdm) and nvidia graphics > card (well, even with vesa video mode). Seems that the card is no-op here. It's only gnome which causes RealPlayer to fail. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 13:57:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59DB106568F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556558FC23 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:57:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so2310782bwz.43 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:57:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=x3rCR9d0fETfOyjCm9UWMOrlSCT1Xl6FQFNj8STQw+o=; b=b5WEQgcJYhiUYcLawokBG6+lyqlfYhwOuKyInsiT43ATpVN6FOaUYEO/sI40hGOdnS +MscNq1r2pe3RjFZwXbFUp6Pj67QxztKMDCng31Qvns1UmyB3Z+TWK/NNTod6td049kX w/Rwi/tYotqM9Bt16+s7dnjDzhZs8CGZB60Wo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=LVZIAlKRcYMbPCmkV9yXzCdSL4YYmHSJqUhic7PpDhUpC8+u8RCMiZY4g++NzAGILW G7ylre672sOL8T9s7HOsHWNHDi19+iETksextfkZFEvDT805EDo7bwedCts2ZTH/4aYV U254hqNkRi5SokCLbUoWPYCj/WwCKlF670TXE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.24.70 with SMTP id u6mr4055999bkb.70.1254751070328; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:57:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <27ade5280910050108w212a8d85h6071b5211f19425f@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280910050108w212a8d85h6071b5211f19425f@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:57:30 -0400 Message-ID: <27ade5280910050657g5130bedftf1b6d313cef2827e@mail.gmail.com> To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: Jails: /bin/tcsh: Permission Denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:57:53 -0000 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:08 AM, APseudoUtopia wrote: > Hey list, > > I'm setting up jails on my system. I started with a httpd jail for > nginx and php to run in. I used ezjail to create it. I went through > all the steps, and got a jail setup and working. I've logged in and > out several times and installed a couple ports within the jail. I then > added a non-privileged user by running "adduser" as root. However, > that is when the problem came up. For some reason, I cannot switch to > the unprivileged user. The shell is giving me a "Permission Denied" > error. > [snip] I have solved the problem with the help of Google and this thread: https://elektropost.org/ezjail/threads.html#00263 The permissions on the HOST for /usr/jails/httpd and /usr/jails/basejail were set incorrectly. When I installed the jail, I used umask 0077. Those jail directories needed to be chmod'ed 755. Everything works successfully now. Thanks very much for the tips, suggestions, and overall help. If I hadn't found that ezjail mailing list thread, I would've been ripping my hair out for days. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 14:06:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F50106568F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:06:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0335A8FC19 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:06:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n95E6d81013585; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:06:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n95E6cFD013583; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:06:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <200910051406.n95E6cFD013583@lurza.secnetix.de> To: apseudoutopia@gmail.com (APseudoUtopia) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:06:38 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <27ade5280910050624w366d05f1yf9db6158db626ba3@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:06:54 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jails: /bin/tcsh: Permission Denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:06:56 -0000 APseudoUtopia wrote: > > Thanks for the tips. I'm new to jails, and I didn't think it was > > possible to build a jail without tcsh. What shell do you use then? > > Just /bin/sh? I never log into a jail. There's no reason to do that. However, usually /bin/sh is required to run scripts, cron jobs and other things. Also, some library functions such as system(3) and popen(3) require /bin/sh. Those functions are used by many programs. So, bascially, you will almost always need to have /bin/sh in a jail. But that doesn't mean that you have any login accounts inside the jail. Usually the passwd inside your jail should only contain root and a few pseudo users. The pseudo users (including root) should have no valid password, no valid login shell, and in most cases no valid home directory. There's no reason to make things easier for intruders. Of course, that's only true for jails that contain services (i.e. daemons). If you want to put shell users inside jails, that's a completely different thing. (I'm not using ezjail, FWIW.) > > -r-xr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  311400 Oct  5 05:34 /bin/tcsh > > > > /bin/tcsh: > >        libncurses.so.7 => /lib/libncurses.so.7 (0x280c5000) > >        libcrypt.so.4 => /lib/libcrypt.so.4 (0x28104000) > >        libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2811d000) > > > > -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  258572 Oct  5 05:34 /lib/libncurses.so.7 > > -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  32020 Oct  5 05:34 /lib/libcrypt.so.4 > > -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  993092 Oct  5 05:34 /lib/libc.so.7 > > > > drwxr-xr-x   3 root  wheel  512 Oct  5 07:49 home > > drwxr-xr-x  2 jailuser  jailuser  512 Oct  5 07:49 jailuser Looks good. The only thing I noticed is that your /etc/login.conf.db doesn't seem to be world-readable. It should have permissions 644, but has only 600. However, I'm not sure if this might cause the kind of problem you're seeing. But fixing the permissions is certainly worth a try. > > The truss trace is on a pastebin (the output seemed too long for an > > email) located at http://pastebin.ca/1594445 Other than that, I didn't notice anything unusual in the trace. > Sorry to reply again, but I have some further information. > > I used chpass to change the shell of the jailuser account. I tried > /bin/sh, /bin/csh, /bin/tcsh, and /sbin/nologin. All of those gave the > same "Permission denied" error. Even nologin gave "Permission denied" > instead of "This account is currently not available." Yeah, when the trace aborts, it is still executing the su binary. It doesn't get as far as actually trying to execute the shell. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing."         -- Mother Teresa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 14:34:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB06106566B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D318FC16 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n95EY4o7014663; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:34:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n95EY4Kv014662; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:34:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:34:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910051434.n95EY4Kv014662@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <27ade5280910050657g5130bedftf1b6d313cef2827e@mail.gmail.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:34:20 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Jails: /bin/tcsh: Permission Denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:34:22 -0000 APseudoUtopia wrote: > The permissions on the HOST for /usr/jails/httpd and > /usr/jails/basejail were set incorrectly. When I installed the jail, I > used umask 0077. You should _never_ have umask 077 as root. It will cause all kinds of weird problems. It's best to keep the umask at the default of 022, unless you specifically know that you need a different one for a certain installation. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing."         -- Mother Teresa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 17:37:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01CC6106568F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44978FC2D for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n95HZpMb046646 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:35:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:37:34 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20091005173717.GA44563@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:37:39 -0000 Hey Guys, Is there a way I can tell that an email address, say joe@foo.com is still valid without joe knowing that I am curious? --And, yes, this isn't a FBSD-specific question... . thanks for any insights, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 17:49:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E62106568D for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:49:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B308FC17 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 9046404; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:49:52 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 9046401; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:49:38 -0400 Message-ID: <4ACA31E6.4050603@radel.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:50:30 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20091005173717.GA44563@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20091005173717.GA44563@thought.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060800080109080509090103" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: way to check an email without sending it?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:49:54 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060800080109080509090103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gary Kline wrote: > > Hey Guys, ^^^^ Seen as a sexist assumption by some, but some consider gals to be guys. > > Is there a way I can tell that an email address, say > > joe@foo.com > > is still valid without joe knowing that I am curious? --And, > yes, this isn't a FBSD-specific question... . Depends heavily on how foo.com does things. Used to be, and still is some places, easy to tell by doing a raw SMTP connection and seeing what the receiving server did when you provided the destination address. That makes it real easy to harvest addresses by brute force, so these days many servers don't give you a hint unless you actually send some mail. 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PAZZCzhJbQM6Cae5VmpyP0JkdS3A3SRqt7XD/kp4Cx8fAqxNQgAAAAAAAA== --------------ms060800080109080509090103-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 17:59:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89CD106566B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85DE8FC13 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:59:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 715C3EBC0A; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:59:24 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20091005135924.be749247.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20091005173717.GA44563@thought.org> References: <20091005173717.GA44563@thought.org> Organization: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: way to check an email without sending it?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:59:26 -0000 In response to Gary Kline : > > Hey Guys, > > Is there a way I can tell that an email address, say > > joe@foo.com > > is still valid without joe knowing that I am curious? --And, > yes, this isn't a FBSD-specific question... . > > thanks for any insights, Sure. Telnet to the service and start a SMTP transaction, but then abort it: $ telnet mail.potentialtech.com 25 Trying 66.167.251.6... Connected to mail.potentialtech.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mail.potentialtech.com ESMTP If you spam me I will bounce you helo mail.potentialtech.com 250 mail.potentialtech.com mail from: 250 2.1.0 Ok rcpt to: 450 5.7.0 : Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table quit 221 2.0.0 Bye Connection closed by foreign host. If you don't get a rejection after the "rcpt to:" line, then you know the server will accept the mail and you can close the connection without completing the transaction. Note, that this is no guarantee. Some spam catching nonsense may accept the mail right up to end, then throw it away without delivering it. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 18:14:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C1F1065670 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f192.google.com (mail-qy0-f192.google.com [209.85.221.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A418FC20 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so3601525qyk.7 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:14:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=JQJ1R30MiXHc4OO4WK/5XKvxjDKxQiESjxsx9lask20=; b=KTpHtuBVd9uNVUpa1L4jncSb8s/XMzkcqga4cBIWT2XUq1lW1bZcFA3hk2yTZRnA5i lHTQJovY9gSXZgNnAP/gSxbJ6G8Aheq5EOX2040bKtB5x/Y9dplajDaz9aZopU8BCUlo 8BNxAVUW+FhKGjoHeAPeEvE1xQNCdwWBcSmBs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; b=Nq46hc9Oc2F5hIEamJF4wXXBRDie526BE1xbt3Vy8eXaqz+F7rv+2tRQaJDwkjkvht 0UnctbZePy7rvKv96msTZrhA9gGr/jSxzX6VzI+tY6jlY0gBaKUkgzITssYKSIzvWPRp jmKS1JDKkh1A4BuWDajW6xFV+5Oa/4lZYDkRg= Received: by 10.224.81.204 with SMTP id y12mr379520qak.358.1254766458172; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.6.250? ([201.21.144.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm28665qwg.33.2009.10.05.11.14.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:14:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Jon Radel , freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <4ACA31E6.4050603@radel.com> References: <20091005173717.GA44563@thought.org> <4ACA31E6.4050603@radel.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:14:11 -0300 Message-Id: <1254766451.9441.1.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: way to check an email without sending it?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:14:19 -0000 I use sendmail, so...... the command: sendmail -bv someone@domain.com tells me where the email should go before sendmail sends the email. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 18:43:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7A5106566B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7557B8FC18 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 18:43:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n95IftPe047211; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:41:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:43:38 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <20091005184338.GA44739@thought.org> References: <20091002071528.0B3B710656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <4AC5ED1E.3820.4B0A319@d.forsyth.ru.ac.za> <20091002154838.GA9446@thought.org> <4AC7D242.9080505@bah.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AC7D242.9080505@bah.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: DA Forsyth , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NO ONE knows?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:43:49 -0000 On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 12:37:54AM +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Gary Kline skrev: > > > What I'm looking for is how to use the ``better than the > > default voices''; there are several english languages that > > are fairly natural sounding. Nothing I've googled explain > > using the quality voices for FreeBSD. > > > > gary > > http://espeak.sourceforge.net/docindex.html Tried/found this before at least once. The cmdline: % espeak mb-en1 "hello" outputs the string data that "hello" is composed on. Following further with the linux example is difficult because there is no "usr/local/share/espeak/en1" --neither file nor directory. I did locate the 796-byte data file: /usr/local/share/espeak/espeak-data/mbrola_ph/en1_phtrans but don't have a clue. From what I've been able to glean, this mbrola stuff is > ten years old. Whoever was laboring away just dropped it. I've dug into this computer generated speech just a tiny bit. Yes, it is possible to have Very real-sounding voices, nearly human-sounding. But the complexity is extreme. No wonder the high-quality voices cost $thousands. Suggestions? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 19:50:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1561065676 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9208FC19 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n95Jmrdg047761; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:48:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:50:36 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Bill Moran Message-ID: <20091005195036.GC44739@thought.org> References: <20091005173717.GA44563@thought.org> <20091005135924.be749247.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091005135924.be749247.wmoran@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: way to check an email without sending it?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:50:42 -0000 On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 01:59:24PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Gary Kline : > > > > Hey Guys, > > > > Is there a way I can tell that an email address, say > > > > joe@foo.com > > > > is still valid without joe knowing that I am curious? --And, > > yes, this isn't a FBSD-specific question... . > > > > thanks for any insights, > > Sure. Telnet to the service and start a SMTP transaction, but then abort it: > > $ telnet mail.potentialtech.com 25 > Trying 66.167.251.6... > Connected to mail.potentialtech.com. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 mail.potentialtech.com ESMTP If you spam me I will bounce you > helo mail.potentialtech.com > 250 mail.potentialtech.com > mail from: > 250 2.1.0 Ok > rcpt to: > 450 5.7.0 : Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table > quit > 221 2.0.0 Bye > Connection closed by foreign host. > > If you don't get a rejection after the "rcpt to:" line, then you know the > server will accept the mail and you can close the connection without > completing the transaction. > > Note, that this is no guarantee. Some spam catching nonsense may accept > the mail right up to end, then throw it away without delivering it. telnet couldn't connect for unknown reason but thabks for the tip. I usually just write and say HI, Howzit hanging... or whatever. Anyway, the sendmail -bv ploy indicates that this person is still at the address i have. no big deal; i was just wondering. thanks, people, gary > > -- > Bill Moran > http://www.potentialtech.com > http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 21:35:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E371065694 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:35:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F408FC24 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:35:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n95LYkcd032561; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:35:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n95LYj9N032560; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:34:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:34:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910052134.n95LYj9N032560@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, kline@thought.org In-Reply-To: <20091005195036.GC44739@thought.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:35:01 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: way to check an email without sending it?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, kline@thought.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:35:03 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > telnet couldn't connect for unknown reason but thabks for the tip. I usually just The mail server for a domain doesn't have to run on that domain. That's what MX records in DNS are good for. For example, day, the address is cathy@example.org. Then use this command to find the mail servers for that domain: $ host -t mx example.org Every mail server has a priority number. The lowest number indicates the highest priority, i.e. the server that should normally be tried first. You should be able to telnet to that server on the SMTP port. If the MX list is empty, then either there is no mail mail server for this domain at all, or the domain is it's own mail server, i.e. you can telnet directly to example.org on the SMTP port (provided that it has at least an A record with a normal IP address). By the way, in the good old days (i.e. before spam) you could verify mail addresses with the SMTP VRFY command. But unfortunately, the days of spam have changed many things. :-( Most mail servers don't support VRFY anymore in order to protect against the spammers' address harvesters. Whatever you do to verify the address, it will not be completely without a trace. As soon as you connect to the SMTP port, it might cause an entry in that server's logfile, even before entering any SMTP command. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Whatever happened to the days when hacking started at the cerebral cortex, and not at the keyboard?" -- Sid on userfriendly.org by Illiad, 2007-06-20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 5 21:45:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B36106568B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1741A8FC1B for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n95LjFA0010605 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:45:15 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n95LjFKc010604; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:45:15 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 6850EBE59; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:38:14 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <20091005135924.be749247.wmoran@potentialtech.com> (message from Bill Moran on Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:59:24 -0400) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20091005213816.6850EBE59@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 17:38:14 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Cc: Subject: Re: way to check an email without sending it?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:45:17 -0000 >> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:59:24 -0400, >> Bill Moran said: B> Telnet to the service and start a SMTP transaction, but then abort it. B> If you don't get a rejection after the "rcpt to:" line, then you know B> the server will accept the mail and you can close the connection without B> completing the transaction. B> Note, that this is no guarantee. Some spam catching nonsense may accept B> the mail right up to end, then throw it away without delivering it. qmail will accept any valid address on the host, because the message might be forwarded or handled by a program. "Rcpt to:" always returns ok unless the address itself is mangled. The VRFY command is always answered like this to keep people from harvesting addresses: vrfy 252 send some mail, i'll try my best -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Sam: What's going on, Normie? Norm: My birthday, Sammy. 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I've added CLIENT_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Addr=64.156.192.103, Name=MTA')dnl directly above the DAEMON_OPTIONS lines (after the FEATUREs), recompiled with make -C, and copied the domain-specific cf to sendmail.cf. I've reviewed the old docs on /usr/share/sendmail/cf and the newer ones on /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf that were referenced in the manual. Sendmail starts correctly, so the m4 compilation was successful, but it is still only listening on 127.0.0.1:25 according to netstat -atn. This seems to be more of a newbie issue than a STABLE issue, but please correct me if I'm wrong. I just updated to fix the null issue, but I don't see anything in either UPDATING file. If you need more configs, please forgive me for not including them. No other changes have been made to the mc file. Thanks in advance! :D -- -- Don Wilde " Engineering the Future " http://www.EngineeringJobFuture.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 01:28:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD8E106566B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB8B8FC1E for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:28:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-70-227.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.227]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n961S3G2052605; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:28:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4ACA9D1E.9050300@bah.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 03:27:58 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/1.0.8 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dwilde1@gmail.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail CLIENT_OPTIONS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:28:10 -0000 Don Wilde said the following on 2009-10-06 02:48: > Hello, folks - > > I am setting up the sendmail on my 7.2-STABLE system, and I cannot get > it to listen to my live server address besides the localhost. > > I've added > CLIENT_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, > Addr=64.156.192.103, Name=MTA')dnl > > directly above the DAEMON_OPTIONS lines (after the FEATUREs), > recompiled with make -C, and copied the domain-specific cf to > sendmail.cf. > > I've reviewed the old docs on /usr/share/sendmail/cf and the newer > ones on /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf that were referenced in the > manual. > > Sendmail starts correctly, so the m4 compilation was successful, but > it is still only listening on 127.0.0.1:25 according to netstat -atn. Do you have sendmail_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf file? > This seems to be more of a newbie issue than a STABLE issue, but > please correct me if I'm wrong. I just updated to fix the null issue, > but I don't see anything in either UPDATING file. If you need more > configs, please forgive me for not including them. No other changes > have been made to the mc file. > > Thanks in advance! :D > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 01:30:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DE1106566B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:30:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92A18FC18 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 01:30:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 4so783229eyf.9 for ; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:30:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ysz5frW2ALe+ZHwcgsVDvCzvcL5syagqW3q598u05ek=; b=FjaBIcARU4R94BvCFqAICfDXd9w56M95rmLRPHAc6TUauD2BqcwWpezctvDTP8jsPe lnL0/UDpuemDqM5qBHy+aFfBiuYMdFZ1+jUN3ENtVcnRTtQZH2rnac8vjhG9x+2aliUu s2Fhfa71WVZhWmDd54exvk8gm6a+YvsjDH/dQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JbpIHi/L9mGlLKnkuDyTmqWron4DbOvUF5lokYqAriQkU18fNfOsoYjoS/snhtIjBO nIofUKeSz/UATQnqN06CWqrxQl1Jr+5X0XeSdrXaONJfWkc+d9Hy/yropUwKDDU2Wg9j IGU58etZ2Pf1h7UVggDBE4wRGRXXBJ10c+4HQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.46.73 with SMTP id q51mr174623web.20.1254792636405; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:30:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACA9D1E.9050300@bah.homeip.net> References: <4ACA9D1E.9050300@bah.homeip.net> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:30:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Wilde To: Bernt Hansson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail CLIENT_OPTIONS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dwilde1@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:30:38 -0000 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Don Wilde said the following on 2009-10-06 02:48: >> >> Hello, folks - >> >> I am setting up the sendmail on my 7.2-STABLE system, and I cannot get >> it to listen to my live server address besides the localhost. >> >> I've added >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 CLIENT_OPTIONS(`Fami= ly=3Dinet, >> Addr=3D64.156.192.103, Name=3DMTA')dnl >> >> directly above the DAEMON_OPTIONS lines (after the FEATUREs), >> recompiled with make -C, and copied the domain-specific cf to >> sendmail.cf. >> >> I've reviewed the old docs on /usr/share/sendmail/cf and the newer >> ones on /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf that were referenced in the >> manual. >> >> Sendmail starts correctly, so the m4 compilation was successful, but >> it is still only listening on 127.0.0.1:25 according to netstat -atn. > > Do you have sendmail_enable=3D"YES" in your /etc/rc.conf file? >[snip] Yes, Bernt. --=20 -- Don Wilde " Engineering the Future " http://www.EngineeringJobFuture.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 06:13:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6814E106568B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22008FC12 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:13:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n966Dbh8079411; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:13:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n966Dbh8079411 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1254809627; bh=Q/mXIqRt/LECYhMLXHXJ5xK2mAp/8G45a2b/PXFSa4U=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4ACAE00A.9090502@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2006=20Oct=202009=2007:13:30=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20090823)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Gary=20Kline=20|CC:=20Bill=20M oran=20,=20=0D=0A=20FreeBSD=20Mailing=20 List=20|Subject:=20Re:=20way=20to=2 0check=20an=20email=20without=20sending=20it??|References:=20<2009 1005173717.GA44563@thought.org>=09<20091005135924.be749247.wmoran@ potentialtech.com>=20<20091005195036.GC44739@thought.org>|In-Reply -To:=20<20091005195036.GC44739@thought.org>|X-Enigmail-Version:=20 0.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3 B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20bounda ry=3D"------------enigE031F6904B2763D81866A91B"; b=ypqIIAGMCVLGOygLlKQ71WmxshFdOKUErGv3TCvHXP7/mVnxBRa0Gx0kVRK7DQwHx hTfHk/xmGpl6hre84bevQ0eTzPTKQqqRqhOVxPfMWWe1lrYngXjSRz1Wt4/qm8mnwp /BEPY81pzVDVKz1wZ/XaxlLgmxLPQJaz2nVgGDtg= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4ACAE00A.9090502@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:13:30 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090823) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20091005173717.GA44563@thought.org> <20091005135924.be749247.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091005195036.GC44739@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20091005195036.GC44739@thought.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE031F6904B2763D81866A91B" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Bill Moran , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: way to check an email without sending it?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:13:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE031F6904B2763D81866A91B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary Kline wrote: > write and say HI, Howzit hanging... or whatever. Anyway, the sendmail= -bv ploy > indicates that this person is still at the address i have. no big dea= l; i was just > wondering. Uh -- sendmail -bv doesn't do what you think it does. It only shows you = what your local sendmail would do with the message as it tries to deliver it. If i= t's not for a local user, then all it says is 'send it to the SMTP server respons= ible' and nothing at all about what the other machine would do with it.=20 The only way to find that out is by connecting to the remote sendmail, ei= ther by telnet or by actually sending an e-mail. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigE031F6904B2763D81866A91B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkrK4BEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzT/QCfdFNYjUTBfhM3SIYXbO+dGKZt 3QcAoIU1J5wX50t1zrUYkGIikOf5xfcC =01/z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE031F6904B2763D81866A91B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 06:57:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00E41065692 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7858FC18 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 06:57:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FF1EB4E1F; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:57:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BD145152; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:57:08 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v4K6X2LOgVlb; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:57:08 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl17-131.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.144.131]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5361450C6; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:57:08 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n966v7IW021031 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:57:07 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n966v6x3021030; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:57:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: dwilde1@gmail.com References: Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:57:05 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Don Wilde's message of "Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:48:09 -0500") Message-ID: <87eiphovr2.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail CLIENT_OPTIONS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:57:11 -0000 On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 19:48:09 -0500, Don Wilde wrote: > Hello, folks - > > I am setting up the sendmail on my 7.2-STABLE system, and I cannot get > it to listen to my live server address besides the localhost. > > I've added > CLIENT_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, > Addr=64.156.192.103, Name=MTA')dnl > > directly above the DAEMON_OPTIONS lines (after the FEATUREs), > recompiled with make -C, and copied the domain-specific cf to > sendmail.cf. CLIENT_OPTIONS() does not set options for clients connecting *to* Sendmail, but for Sendmail itself when it acts as a client to an other MTA. > Sendmail starts correctly, so the m4 compilation was successful, but > it is still only listening on 127.0.0.1:25 according to netstat -atn. This is often a configuration error that launches only a local Sendmail listener. Show us your `/etc/rc.conf' settings: # grep -i sendmail /etc/rc.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 07:26:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBE2106566B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9200E8FC08 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:26:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n967QbET052743; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:26:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n967QbeR052742; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:26:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:26:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910060726.n967QbeR052742@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, dwilde1@gmail.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:26:53 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: sendmail CLIENT_OPTIONS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, dwilde1@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:26:55 -0000 Don Wilde wrote: > I am setting up the sendmail on my 7.2-STABLE system, and I cannot get > it to listen to my live server address besides the localhost. > > I've added > CLIENT_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, > Addr=64.156.192.103, Name=MTA')dnl > > directly above the DAEMON_OPTIONS lines (after the FEATUREs), > recompiled with make -C, and copied the domain-specific cf to > sendmail.cf. You do not have to add anything to your .mc/.cf file. Just be sure to have this line in /etc/rc.conf: sendmail_enable="YES" then restart sendmail, and it will listen on all interfaces. > Sendmail starts correctly, so the m4 compilation was successful, but > it is still only listening on 127.0.0.1:25 according to netstat -atn. It's better to use "sockstat -l | grep sendmail". It lists user, command and PID along with the IP address ("*" if all addresses) and port number, so you can easily match it with output from ps or top, using the PID number. If sendmail is listening only on localhost, it usually means that you don't have sendmail_enable="YES" in rc.conf. In that case, the default is to run sendmail only on the localhost interface, so that local mail delivery does work (e.g. output mailed from cron jobs). A common error is to put an entry at the top of rc.conf, not noticing that another entry further down the file overrides it. The last entry takes effect. For example, if you have sendmail_enable="YES" at the top, but there's sendmail_enable="NO" somewhere near the end of the file, then the latter will take effect. "grep sendmail /etc/rc.conf" will tell you the truth. After any changes, don't forget to restart sendmail: "/etc/rc.d/sendmail restart" If you're extra paranoid, first do only "stop" instead of "restart", then verify that no sendmail processes are running, then perform the "start". Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd In my experience the term "transparent proxy" is an oxymoron (like jumbo shrimp). "Transparent" proxies seem to vary from the distortions of a funhouse mirror to barely translucent. I really, really dislike them when trying to figure out the corrective lenses needed with each of them. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 08:59:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363A41065679 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tseveendorj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B08B8FC18 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so3321636pzk.3 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:59:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=ACDCYdD+X0OnFug2Yc3k0vGM2pIQngVRTVhi2DyvLWY=; b=h3lRzIGaVI6oESEG3Q2LeqGdDR2RsKXhE27SP788u8gyeKKAEvFuoSt9UGzjipGDkW RiD5cJxCdZTnEvFYkAYicGpJ94KfqpFYB8qP4GQePgeQ93nzdY5rZmgz8Ry+mZWqF47V NMMpVPQUaKGDoowc26tyuFWZ5lzutSgt8EMmY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=v//Tz2ZvhEba8xjCyC0dR+BPC/x3X0DUWcelqVtBKxmXi19Bese7rSMHudVksl7Ge9 OWzhi1K9xaIYL+nUMy4OoKkYjx6QCXodi3Ztqg+9X/9ZdjeE4LymgIv43JhMASMkYOf+ f/B0LUT8CM/9/8Nsx1jgUOIE0ergIGkDEvghM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.162.20 with SMTP id k20mr121384rve.255.1254818182177; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:36:22 +0900 Message-ID: <62c908120910060136y130ebdeem96b04931a112ed02@mail.gmail.com> From: Tseveendorj Ochirlantuu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=000e0cd2dd5201a38904754020fa X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: BTX Halted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:59:38 -0000 --000e0cd2dd5201a38904754020fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Dear all, I've found something strange I have never seen before. When start booting FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 from ISO image in ESX 4.0 then error occurs. You can see it from snapshot. I have following. Dell R900 with 4 CPU, 64GB RAM ESX 4.0 installed on R900 FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 What is this mean? Best regards, Tseveen. --000e0cd2dd5201a38904754020fa-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 10:23:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A903106568F for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vilem.kebrt@gmail.com) Received: from gibbon.netair.cz (gibbon.netair.cz [79.98.156.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E248FC08 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gibbon.netair.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36BCC38F3; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:23:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at netair.cz Received: from gibbon.netair.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gibbon.netair.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id YJ6i4505OLMQ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:23:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.111.50] (work.pnet.netair.net [79.98.159.15]) by gibbon.netair.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 89528C38B3; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:23:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4ACB1AA3.6090603@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:23:31 +0200 From: Vilem Kebrt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tseveendorj Ochirlantuu References: <62c908120910060136y130ebdeem96b04931a112ed02@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <62c908120910060136y130ebdeem96b04931a112ed02@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BTX Halted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:23:34 -0000 I dont know how anyone else but i don't see snapshot, can u please get it somewhere online and provide link ? With regards William Tseveendorj Ochirlantuu napsal(a): > Dear all, > I've found something strange I have never seen before. When start booting > FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 from ISO image in ESX 4.0 then error occurs. You can see > it from snapshot. > > I have following. > > Dell R900 with 4 CPU, 64GB RAM > ESX 4.0 installed on R900 > FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 > > What is this mean? > > Best regards, > Tseveen. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 11:05:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7B51065679 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.olyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2AF8FC1A for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so2924160bwz.43 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 04:05:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=+nAYY8k/YFTnZ56Z+ixy4HiePt03MC2i9u03eOb/fG8=; b=nPGOtprziBsMXCCJmMJTElZLWKWLgDLOgDRULz9hVJSunKa8dWiRsji6VCOYb52Lo2 ZlS98DsBxcrFCXM8wDWeem5IFn9nh6VNRszA2Og91twEHByjsv/qBX1SKdajPBSxaJZC 685gMoyHwQiTche8m3f3pMQxZF1oO9XiCiA8A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=oIGpFX8nhxf+XkVWsRrgvTU29euDiIXjRS6AddcG6+hJhVRyoZCRq3hE6vtWRQ1BwJ kDLsklbXvZdRzjC8MRLm2pCA246+ejBItzwoTMMequ54s1jpxCFViKleFd/g5/paAyUM lu/8NYJHIFVX5aJ2pIGQtvuBwFQg+SV6R4Ric= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.23.74 with SMTP id q10mr405224fab.14.1254827123707; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 04:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:05:23 -0400 Message-ID: <1d7089c40910060405k3ac6f53bx252ade8183f1f431@mail.gmail.com> From: Henry Olyer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: windoz, how do i install it last X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:05:25 -0000 So I have a FreeBSD system. Is their a way to install windoz? Say, XP-pro? Or whatever... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 11:28:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7D8106568B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:28:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFC18FC12 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:28:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bs.l (e180007188.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.180.7.188]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M3MC8-1M4XZ20WPo-00r0gp; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:28:32 +0200 Received: from bsch by bs.l with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mv8DX-0002n4-N3; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:28:31 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:28:31 +0200 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091006112831.GA10473@marge.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1d7089c40910060405k3ac6f53bx252ade8183f1f431@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1d7089c40910060405k3ac6f53bx252ade8183f1f431@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19w4FPupyhV/LHGBlCKqiXXBZukQLF2DfsM6Ck ZbDP5ZOj62xV5aqxmOSLIYRoJA7K31QMMwYga2gmLf6MU/tF8O 3piFsJnaHm3D7XhOxTnx/BBmoGe+Gzl Subject: Re: windoz, how do i install it last X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:28:34 -0000 Hi, Am Dienstag, 06. Okt 2009, 07:05:23 -0400 schrieb Henry Olyer: > So I have a FreeBSD system. > Is their a way to install windoz? Say, XP-pro? Or whatever... Replace or dual boot? The standard FreeBSD boot manager offers a choice which of the slices 1-4 you want to boot from. Just install #*@%& into the first slice and FreeBSD into the second. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 13:59:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A341065744 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwilde1@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f207.google.com (mail-ew0-f207.google.com [209.85.219.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB72E8FC1B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so632604ewy.7 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:59:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0vfjSZKbSPAwKvV1lENCwwZIF+bNSJuEWvzjXZi4CoI=; b=exS0r7kE2gfaHtmsjE+ojq1ZVNfUyF/wrAgItDUS0QyqenzxMtnvOdlwQUNlbfeAQl 65sCRY5gkEanR88hfHsMKvGsd0btLiLk1v34fYPDeuyE/RgGqPOsNWpJDTSiPxKLujHL 0/MbM0PziIlcNfsqqyTUGQ877PNAW3QOvCZ+Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RQ0Bf++Pae6OaxY2NcchDhmtP3T//fUQ49NwfmjM6g75rzy1mlckznn4bwtgMU97DY Is4ZGS9l3o0mxoJw6IVNpr32WCQ0d4yOc3R2k+tenuELPc4G17gOxIb+qi5qFiv39RcY OtESm2j+SbswkjQMypbl/7zOPQqkjuBDi/DA0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.22.66 with SMTP id s44mr330259wes.87.1254837597619; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:59:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200910060726.n967QbeR052742@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200910060726.n967QbeR052742@lurza.secnetix.de> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:59:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Wilde To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, dwilde1@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: sendmail CLIENT_OPTIONS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dwilde1@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:59:59 -0000 On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Oliver Fromme wrot= e: > Don Wilde wrote: > =A0> I am setting up the sendmail on my 7.2-STABLE system, and I cannot g= et > =A0> it to listen to my live server address besides the localhost. > =A0> > =A0> I've added > =A0> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0CLIENT_OPTION= S(`Family=3Dinet, > =A0> Addr=3D64.156.192.103, Name=3DMTA')dnl > =A0> > =A0> directly above the DAEMON_OPTIONS lines (after the FEATUREs), > =A0> recompiled with make -C, and copied the domain-specific cf to > =A0> sendmail.cf. > > You do not have to add anything to your .mc/.cf file. > Just be sure to have this line in /etc/rc.conf: > > sendmail_enable=3D"YES" > > then restart sendmail, and it will listen on all interfaces. > > =A0> Sendmail starts correctly, so the m4 compilation was successful, but > =A0> it is still only listening on 127.0.0.1:25 according to netstat -atn= . > > It's better to use "sockstat -l | grep sendmail". > It lists user, command and PID along with the IP address > ("*" if all addresses) and port number, so you can easily > match it with output from ps or top, using the PID number. > > If sendmail is listening only on localhost, it usually > means that you don't have sendmail_enable=3D"YES" in rc.conf. > In that case, the default is to run sendmail only on the > localhost interface, so that local mail delivery does work > (e.g. output mailed from cron jobs). > > A common error is to put an entry at the top of rc.conf, > not noticing that another entry further down the file > overrides it. =A0The last entry takes effect. =A0For example, > if you have sendmail_enable=3D"YES" at the top, but there's > sendmail_enable=3D"NO" somewhere near the end of the file, > then the latter will take effect. > > "grep sendmail /etc/rc.conf" will tell you the truth. > > After any changes, don't forget to restart sendmail: > "/etc/rc.d/sendmail restart" > > If you're extra paranoid, first do only "stop" instead of > "restart", then verify that no sendmail processes are > running, then perform the "start". > > Best regards > =A0 Oliver > Oliver, Gorgios, Bernt - You all hit the nail right on the head. I had added the sendmail_enable line before, but in my pushing and shoving in emacs I seem to have deleted it again. Many thanks to all of you for your patience and support! :D --=20 -- Don Wilde " Engineering the Future " http://www.EngineeringJobFuture.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 15:36:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4DD106566B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8DC8FC08 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so4217691yxe.3 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:36:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=fbx/kn/PK8xDh/X0bbMGPnS4E9suL/tblMo1zKROZ9s=; b=APW/Kl5N9GFTNsjPx06ANAzZx9wgaIZ/SowziPA9KQbT+FPzkwAqH8AkxwqiOB1Nep epbopbbjPyp73+kyx5eOAvkT/qOGNJ7faTI/IZ1A8CaTkGkNwqVg7jvh3mwtnCusgdD9 ONJm55fxJq0lnx9yFbt6F1Qz2XOHcIKETVCeE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=VvltNtkmx9S42lKGUpUJX9AOm6W0806Sdlla0sajRSDCJ+ZMHTyjLpCwxQMLFe1DNx 2LXgcTW5k5LgI050H4tNACoUg06GSECuPaBX9RDbYIvJk2/Ayuo3Uupqxhh1OD4qkCJo 5YV3jyUh9OzeMk5cMStk9phANYscIaEZ6QIR4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.181.26 with SMTP id i26mr1695568anp.56.1254843374085; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:36:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <62c908120910060136y130ebdeem96b04931a112ed02@mail.gmail.com> References: <62c908120910060136y130ebdeem96b04931a112ed02@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:36:13 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Tseveendorj Ochirlantuu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BTX Halted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:36:15 -0000 On 10/6/09, Tseveendorj Ochirlantuu wrote: > Dear all, > I've found something strange I have never seen before. When start booting > FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 from ISO image in ESX 4.0 then error occurs. You can see > it from snapshot. > > I have following. > > Dell R900 with 4 CPU, 64GB RAM > ESX 4.0 installed on R900 > FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 > > What is this mean? > > Best regards, > Tseveen. > BTX - BooT eXtender, the process of moving from 16-bit real mode to 32-bit (or 64-bit?) protected mode. The system was unable to do this conversion. Happens on buggy "chipsets" (in quotes because this is on ESX). Go back to VM properties and double, triple check everything, go into the BIOS and disable any "window-isms" like PnP OS, power management, etc. You might have a corrupt download, check your MD5/SHA1 and redownload if applicable. --TJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 16:02:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C684C106566B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:02:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f204.google.com (mail-yw0-f204.google.com [209.85.211.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFEA8FC08 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:02:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh42 with SMTP id 42so3714603ywh.28 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:02:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/TfjliYldPhM0Hmu8gGn8wYQkMzq9CIPiGC+88Qsfc0=; b=Xryarq2uELIS+PySHxy/xhK4hzwzSBThqSJEqsg1oYtu0i5CyL73EQ+OOqcuRwV8RK KphrVORbmKPjP8mvYyYfxn/PeAVkhIEqvaOjvdeq+9nfzO/lS0Zmop+EypJOm9r/xaAF jEvR8xqyaVG/hd95sRK5yQu4Gv2yeCRTbV67U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=cgk2Xx00idC7IHhDdEkb02iAZAOUrrfhbGwEWJnG8V7XBaVHD0Mu4nXp+GLfL6U/8X HlBVcXcHtwff0sMBxEWZnQC68V00HcIrA0N4q555VJ1VWHF+92Fr9b978El9U/pDC6Sk g9X6qtd9PwhIgnpH369RLBYEJJ1zGrhLFLZ0Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.2.5 with SMTP id e5mr2670394ybi.114.1254844951053; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:02:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1d7089c40910060405k3ac6f53bx252ade8183f1f431@mail.gmail.com> References: <1d7089c40910060405k3ac6f53bx252ade8183f1f431@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:02:31 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0910060902g1ffee685pe08f59d1dfe1803e@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Henry Olyer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: windoz, how do i install it last X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:02:32 -0000 On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:05 AM, Henry Olyer wrote: > So I have a FreeBSD system. > Is their a way to install windoz? Say, XP-pro? Or whatever... > > Depending on your usage of said OS, virtualbox might be a good alternative. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 16:06:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB589106568F for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from web65504.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65504.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93D848FC17 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11352 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Oct 2009 16:06:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1254845206; bh=h4k6nwZkxwS3w4dJOEfASVURbeXez5BuNg7SSFwTgrc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=h3+3SrxQkMNIAHHa5UrroD9DM2li7oC9tOFcPTdGz0eR0zimDh8NUVWHtP1SZQBFhzk0kAD883/UCLFEUtOuaAoCjVoQGB9XN0LILtAOI6O3YX8/ml24jWR1glVPqW7j+YvQ+5dDPhjwCk7OFAg1ru/aoN5xerntGLgU2ncusPY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1eXHDQpcay3FfShVoebVbRS4rAeNTUkad6HtNcasvK66JkDjYvjn7q5UXkVYxOnh4DOAOeAaxZpalw6D7SCNiR42Mln7764fl/keQFjru7SkLiKnZQw2wIY3RzRlL3zAPptbubrjA4mkN9AoBS/CSnBVh/XfYe3Ne83UTGztZnE=; Message-ID: <38976.11274.qm@web65504.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Vt_7f1QVM1k_ijYXSjAX8JhxjXkKOv02xatzOJkVoF3pMdi7HrXPaQiZ_jc6JCGDP0Br5Pip_KKbpHH_C81DQXELzYkbl6gBvRr17EKg.qYjAgyUdbf2k28L1rwSZr0LHf57WzKdUaFDecTYmWIQW5MqFF73JrUNiexYxjtm9wQZjd9dvljkhT1pS.bf27Spr3e3qe8oYNYYKf3Cyaw6fSCH_mNdkjOKpFQyFOe.z7bhX09uu85AVu__rhxv9BkCtxLAgAq71VSFJQsbWNE8Kwiqm1_nCEhz1RPlcqW4SXlyMHCTQyOOkiGtMS4U2vgUKiqGG36ufAm3nUhhNrelJjEPjoZtChEty6seVS99yDiUdrAO22R2ZQbKP_6kk4mUCoZxafC1jS.KXZKv4obXjhmSUlEMPA-- Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65504.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:06:45 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:06:45 -0700 (PDT) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091006120022.15147106574D@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: windoz, how do i install it last X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:06:47 -0000 =0A=0A=0A> Message: 30=0A> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 07:05:23 -0400=0A> From: H= enry Olyer =0A> Subject: windoz, how do i install it= last=0A> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Message-ID:=0A> =A0=A0=A0 <= 1d7089c40910060405k3ac6f53bx252ade8183f1f431@mail.gmail.com>=0A> Content-Ty= pe: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0A> =0A> So I have a FreeBSD system.= =0A> Is their a way to install windoz?=A0 Say, XP-pro?=A0=0A> Or whatever..= .=0A> =0A=0AFrom the subject I gather you want to shrink the BSD slice, or = have room, then install Windows.=0A=0AThe fact you are asking the question = suggests you don't have your work backed up, and won't listen when told to = backup your work (takes one to know one). The other possibility is that you= want to install BSD now, but Windows later.=0A=0A =0A=0AI any= case, you need a way to boot FreeBSD without the bootsector, such as the i= nstallation CD.=0A=0AAs I am not familiar with the gory details, I will ref= er you to Chapter 2 of the Handbook:=0Ahttp://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO= 8859-1/books/handbook/install.html=0A=0AIf you can't get the Windows Boot m= anager to boot FreeBSD, you will want to use the FreeBSD boot manager, ment= ioned in section: 2.6.3 Install a Boot Manager.=0A=0ARegards,=0A=0AJames Ph= illips=0A=0A=0A=0A__________________________________________________=0ADo Y= ou Yahoo!?=0ATired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection aroun= d =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 17:41:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3991B106566B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@b1c1l1.com) Received: from lancer.b1c1l1.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f358:1a:1a:1000::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2188B8FC14 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:41:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from supra.b1c1l1.com (netops-172.sfo1.bitgravity.com [209.131.110.172]) by lancer.b1c1l1.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 805325C29; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ACB8130.2070208@b1c1l1.com> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:41:04 -0700 From: Benjamin Lee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090829) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tseveendorj Ochirlantuu References: <62c908120910060136y130ebdeem96b04931a112ed02@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <62c908120910060136y130ebdeem96b04931a112ed02@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6A495E9E64B85443166F8D67" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BTX Halted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:41:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6A495E9E64B85443166F8D67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/06/2009 01:36 AM, Tseveendorj Ochirlantuu wrote: > Dear all, > I've found something strange I have never seen before. When start booti= ng > FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 from ISO image in ESX 4.0 then error occurs. You can = see > it from snapshot. >=20 > I have following. >=20 > Dell R900 with 4 CPU, 64GB RAM > ESX 4.0 installed on R900 > FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 >=20 > What is this mean? Did you create the guest with a 64-bit CPU? --=20 Benjamin Lee http://www.b1c1l1.com/ --------------enig6A495E9E64B85443166F8D67 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJKy4E5AAoJEHBW16CPoSMCDlAQAK9iuHUzLiUvqbinqnmzt0gf 2RhPWcgYyta/vHgTwbzh4I/Rwqg41Su2BPD+T9nXEX1jJ9LFUqfDQ0840XLar3HE ISixLu/T9tI9+1x+FaHSPSshLNK1yBQs01kDg8sKyU9XLcpvXDB0A4X25RxC6j+s 7Nl5MwSFr408Y/W9xasIzh2CI0ZafzCx5HmCrj6XjCSuZRJVi1puPhTGkkO3aQGT 6kt7xQXPvd4vM5+HJRB1OSjE30uM8tcIk9dL3ESKYXbFHy8bl4bFp7sxAHcCxmsU r3lC6yCfSTqGW4+ikJgP4JzUPErn8mzAyLApQ7rycaYvQ8T8nZsjp9X0tF7MsnjC jzsv7wznPF2WwiaFszH9JVw8+Nrkljow7yKHvjnXH8sdZaX4LwnS+3wevv21l3Sz Ljuyq981TsH9DuMCmf0kmBAocjwQY19hxr5QaZ+RwMbSEPMjI7hv/o9L3zx1n7N3 V05IYxXvveBknqYiClAKwohOH4aF+StRmdMo6r3zPPVjl1SscbjrjGjq1RKnvkaf zef6Wq3Ini1Z+caOzdNXjF6xMo3AOohQCWZqqCIGTNE5Nfav18kXoruuZqXR5JsM MTK3AKoX3JGh6DfwICehaJyBkhvkECAXZwdgLeb44DpoMZ/PVl8u8cO7SH7dZoHu mMYtyyV/ammcnedRVPdZ =Re4I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6A495E9E64B85443166F8D67-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 17:56:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102DD106568B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [209.240.79.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2508FC1F for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4445119C38 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:56:17 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gene" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:56:17 -0500 Message-Id: <20091006174735.M14938@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.0.2 (fbsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: FBSD 7.2 - ports blocked but no firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:56:19 -0000 Hi- I'm running 7.2 GENERIC and installed the unrealirc port. I've started it up and can connect from localhost just fine. But when attempting to connect from the outside world (eg. from another box on the lan) I get connection refused. I've tried both with and without ipfilter running (with appropriate rule). Other ports are reachable including a non-standard port used for ssh. The question: Could there be any reason that port 6667 might be blocked? (Unrealircd questions can be taken up elsewhere). IHN, Gene -- To everything there is a season, And a time to every purpose under heaven. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 17:57:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323711065697; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rbgarga@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f171.google.com (mail-vw0-f171.google.com [209.85.212.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D168FC17; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1so2640336vws.27 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:56:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rDzQ4qSt8x3pOxJcHK2577D+otKjdrfb/94zK336AVo=; b=EVxIyEqqTrZcTawTHTIqBsmNgGDTmLewkKA9Xn2YJ0gjg47HfXbbyRxC+AbJgsfIHt JcHxFSPB49pkRASgkYfhqIcOYnBGGbudSQwUE1Ve/FBU5+JpVTmnFNVNU5Ga1Wbe75uE u0Q+h3KZNZLBbzyQRcMAm1xyCx7LMcUHGnfug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=K4UQHtpcRWOKKU5CPoleLGs0f6zaqJVGooQjWC5DCpyXighUeY+clOfevLWwR7k9BS GKf2M25CTbIEZNOucp+porisvW0bIMbTBndATXl/x7hxrN/MjkXCH5nNhEGraGAIJ/5e pp6+4QLyJnWOviCyKfoPwOwpTxJRtr2HusqW0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.79.140 with SMTP id p12mr2794588vck.57.1254849887139; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:24:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091002133231.GA17567@hades.panopticon> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930110508.GA50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> <20091001111417.GF50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001112323.GA26407@droso.net> <20091001114546.GH50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001213656.GA14925@lonesome.com> <20091002133231.GA17567@hades.panopticon> From: Renato Botelho Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:24:27 -0300 Message-ID: <747dc8f30910061024h5346b25evd27369955f9d6768@mail.gmail.com> To: Dmitry Marakasov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:59:50 +0000 Cc: Albert Shih , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon , Erwin Lansing , ion-general@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:57:00 -0000 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: > * Mark Linimon (linimon@lonesome.com) wrote: > >> The author orginally contacted us with a legal threat because we were >> not in compliance with the 28-day clause. =9AA long, acrimonious disucss= ion >> ensued. =9AIn that discussion, the author was asked "if we agree to meet >> that condition going forward, would you guarantee that this would remove >> any further legal threat?" and he said yes ... >> >> for now. >> >> But that he reserved the right to change his mind later. >> >> *depending* on what we did or did not do in the future -- not just in >> adhering to the *existing clauses* like the "significant" clause or >> "renamed" clause -- both of which he mentioned would be part of any >> lawsuit. >> >> Legally indefensible? =9AOf course. =9AWould that prevent a lawsuit bein= g >> filed? =9ANo. =9AAnyone can sue anyone for anything. > > Well, if you insist I of course won't commit it. But the whole thing > disappoints me greately, cause I was pretty sure at least FreeBSD > developers won't be affected by a mere FUD. Do you honestly think > the probability of Tuomo suing us is higher of, say, me suing, well, > us? =9AAnd that anything will change by us not providing a port we > have absolutely totally utterly 100% right to provide? =9AThat is > just silly. > > The port from now on is available here (removed from people.freebsd.org): > http://mirror.amdmi3.ru/ports/ion3-20090110.port.tar You can start a fork of it, change its name, its license, and keep it as a separate project... people will use the same software with another name. Everybody will be happy and we won't have a Tuomo's software inside ports collection again. --=20 Renato Botelho From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 18:05:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9F5106566B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: from hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (hal.Rescomp.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.70.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CDB8FC1F for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (Postfix, from userid 1225) id BF762597CAC; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:05:19 -0700 From: Chris Cowart To: Gene Message-ID: <20091006180519.GA63605@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Gene , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091006174735.M14938@brightstar.bomgardner.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091006174735.M14938@brightstar.bomgardner.net> Organization: RSSP-IT, UC Berkeley User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FBSD 7.2 - ports blocked but no firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:05:20 -0000 --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gene wrote: > I'm running 7.2 GENERIC and installed the unrealirc port. I've started it= up=20 > and can connect from localhost just fine. But when attempting to connect = =66rom=20 > the outside world (eg. from another box on the lan) I get connection refu= sed. >=20 > I've tried both with and without ipfilter running (with appropriate rule). > Other ports are reachable including a non-standard port used for ssh. >=20 > The question: Could there be any reason that port 6667 might be blocked?= =20 > (Unrealircd questions can be taken up elsewhere). It's possible you've configured Unrealircd to only listen on localhost and not on "*". Look for something like: | listen *:6697 | { | ... | }; And make sure it's "*" and not "127.0.0.1". --=20 Chris Cowart Network Technical Lead Network & Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT UC Berkeley --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAwAGBQJKy4beAAoJEC8b9sM8ejXtJskP/iVr0q/0z4G0nrTEpIx9piq7 4pGog3itSNZ9BkZPkTKcTr0v1yah9Y9vKA6HxUtge5pTKvZ530BQBBDSrQjikCeL qCoxka24A3UA/DGChP3K3fwD6sSME6bI6VMm5CroR8j+/0rtdfL4z2ZN4nvyclpw Ed2C778IxNW92chgNOEd7p57dmNx9B1AX1ynAxPGXcD7o1xwPtQPpkYAAiGGlsHR MMKw2Sz7g1a1jbAnzIlWM058MdQobrzJC3q5fAJv02AqkfPJsMwiCTuEONiq+Uk1 BJpeLJfFqNemaiFcMhpr+rC76MTKYXqSq8zS4shTiPdK3xLPvcTWESy7kqJIYUNI h9dd3+Z3C5EydquAsKX7Jrp+gKw0BNcD44upkMh9sZGTW6FVhE1TWu8dgs5rI86I bKrgRrpI2BWF43wOFzudSYmc+57avC3zSW6c+t1AGZdq6aDjUJ/C+xAawz0P1B25 qYfeQcTTsr7lOQSR6tNqMwsXcWQP1PSbHH/7Zy9SaEcA/R7Wr2PC+UCW1RGoeej2 +TZk7ToxWUGsv02YsX9MvALQnPNMaYyE1IZXFXOfpRZcN3h3XLfZgI9yRdNt5SYP m8VWjTUnT+BwOn2T3ZinK9b/rhXeW7dIA7XX5OI2oY6Ak36SykauOp6/15ItsSTO Ke5z1WqIYkqsR5CJbME4 =FLip -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 19:55:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE221065695 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 19:55:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cstankevitz@toyon.com) Received: from smtp1.toyon.com (206-190-77-154.static.twtelecom.net [206.190.77.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1568FC12 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 19:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.1.100] (hosts253.toyon.com [65.160.147.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.toyon.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n96K01so014143 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:00:01 -0700 Message-ID: <4ACBA099.3000803@toyon.com> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:55:05 -0700 From: Chris Stankevitz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD "Projects" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:55:09 -0000 Hello, I recently stumbled across "The FreeBSD GNOME Project" webpage which is filled with detail and great instructions. It is located at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/index.html Q1: Where can I find the FreeBSD page that links to "The FreeBSD GNOME project" webpage? Q2: Where can I find a list of other such "projects"? Thanks, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 20:12:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D481065672 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B26E8FC1B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:12:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MvGOX-0008Dq-Vj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:12:25 +0200 Received: from pool-72-75-53-52.washdc.east.verizon.net ([72.75.53.52]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:12:25 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-75-53-52.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:12:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:12:45 -0400 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <4ACBA099.3000803@toyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-75-53-52.washdc.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD "Projects" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0000 Chris Stankevitz wrote: > > Hello, > > I recently stumbled across "The FreeBSD GNOME Project" webpage which is > filled with detail and great instructions. It is located at > http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/index.html > > Q1: Where can I find the FreeBSD page that links to "The FreeBSD GNOME > project" webpage? > > Q2: Where can I find a list of other such "projects"? > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/projects.html Some content may be old, outdated, or stale. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 20:21:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DF91065696 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:21:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maksverver@geocities.com) Received: from mx.utwente.nl (mx1.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA258FC38 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from heaven.student.utwente.nl (heaven.student.utwente.nl [130.89.167.52]) by mx.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n96KLJeR024256; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:21:20 +0200 Message-ID: <4ACBA6BC.80704@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:21:16 +0200 From: Maks Verver User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090827) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Stankevitz References: <4ACBA099.3000803@toyon.com> In-Reply-To: <4ACBA099.3000803@toyon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact icts.servicedesk@utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: maksverver@geocities.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD "Projects" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:21:44 -0000 Hi Chris, > I recently stumbled across "The FreeBSD GNOME Project" webpage which is > filled with detail and great instructions. It is located at > http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/index.html > > Q1: Where can I find the FreeBSD page that links to "The FreeBSD GNOME > project" webpage? > > Q2: Where can I find a list of other such "projects"? For both questions, I think this is the page you're looking for: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ Kind regards, Maks Verver. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 20:24:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAEC1065672 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00E28FC0A for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n96KMO3v060186; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:22:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:24:09 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20091006202409.GA49128@thought.org> References: <20091005173717.GA44563@thought.org> <20091005135924.be749247.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20091005195036.GC44739@thought.org> <4ACAE00A.9090502@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4ACAE00A.9090502@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Bill Moran , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: way to check an email without sending it?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:24:16 -0000 On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 07:13:30AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > write and say HI, Howzit hanging... or whatever. Anyway, the > > sendmail -bv ploy > > indicates that this person is still at the address i have. no big > > deal; i was just > > wondering. > > Uh -- sendmail -bv doesn't do what you think it does. It only shows you > what your > local sendmail would do with the message as it tries to deliver it. If > it's not > for a local user, then all it says is 'send it to the SMTP server > responsible' > and nothing at all about what the other machine would do with it. > > The only way to find that out is by connecting to the remote sendmail, > either > by telnet or by actually sending an e-mail. > > Cheers, > > Matthew Yes, indeed. The only other thing is to mess with the whitepages, but not now. The future is coming too quickly, and I'm pretty sure that we'll all have some sort of ID tags embedded ... _somewhere_. thanks for the clue, gary > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 21:00:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087AC1065694 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@infosec.pl) Received: from v027580.home.net.pl (v027580.home.net.pl [89.161.156.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 517C68FC0A for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (HELO ?172.16.0.2?) (ml.freeside@home@127.0.0.1) by m094.home.net.pl with SMTP; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:00:37 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACBBDCD.6030509@infosec.pl> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:59:41 +0000 From: Michal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091003) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: zfs on root and zpool.cache importance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:00:33 -0000 Hello I'm a bit confused about zpool.cache file. I've got a configuration with /boot sitting on a usb drive (UFS) and everything else on internal ZFS hard drive. I'm booting my system off the usb drive so zpool.cache file is there (usb drive). Basic zfs root + ufs boot setup. Everything works like a charm no problems so far and I would like to keep it that way hence my question. I've noticed that zpool.cache on ZFS drive is being updated from time to time and it is different from zpool.cache file on usb drive. Even when I remove zpool.cache file on hard disk then it gets recreated automatically and system still boots and works fine because it starts with zpool.cache on usb drive which is intact. Now how important it is to keep them in sync and what I'm risking by not doing that? Am I stomping on a thin ice? Should I copy zpool.cache from hard drive to usb boot disk every day or should I leave it how it is? I know that zpool.cache is critical to boot and it keeps some informations about pool configuration but don't quite understand implications of having it outside of the pool itself (without zfs even knowing about that). Michal -- "Every man dies, not every man really lives." -William Wallace From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 21:19:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00445106566B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:19:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roys1012@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f207.google.com (mail-ew0-f207.google.com [209.85.219.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894FB8FC1B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so1071249ewy.7 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:19:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t7X/ArQJYRp8lZLtQuSd+7eZXHJYPN3NoZVudCCkEG0=; b=rg+fCYcWBguSho8+o79SStICV3FMTop/2bUfYW1EV3GvN3IT6lF3iNRQGnCIBZ5G6J +BiCZ+RGmcUcS/lNKih3uUcUOLkRuuRTFIB8cgmxvi0AO8IqbHcy0DO4QE33j7wJ+9te XdSv59rteq1Hzt3klu8ejfcoD+nho0eQ3HvNU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=a38P5JGCAal+l6qEiy/hKEeZH7ugEkfruO2bvXWhDp4xJeOG8MGPEasuyhKmOS4XCP 2QwNgUNdPpMhtbZ7TxRxXi1q0K2Z3/BIfwVRejjl5QUN+znaH1Qro1ysym2/fK/ohywT fNzdGdtazpb5DOVdKMai3TXispGhf92+SKdG4= Received: by 10.211.171.19 with SMTP id y19mr5458392ebo.95.1254863952565; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.125? (ip193-123-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl [87.210.123.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm386725eyz.10.2009.10.06.14.19.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:19:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Roy Stuivenberg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:18:28 +0200 Message-Id: <1254863908.13585.5.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 7.2-stable amd64 / Gnome2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:19:15 -0000 Hello, I have a question about my Gnome2 install. It stopped when it was installing Alacarte. Error was : wrong pygobject version. After that, I restarted, and x11 came up surprisingly. My portstree is up to date, and googl'in I found similar problems. Anyone know if there is a problem with FreeBSD 7.2 (amd64) and gnome2 ? This problem didn't occur with FreeBSD 7.2 i386 iso. Regards, Roy Stuivenberg. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 21:24:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D40106568B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roys1012@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f207.google.com (mail-ew0-f207.google.com [209.85.219.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146608FC08 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so1076208ewy.7 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:24:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pa7+TK0mhy0ywMZFIZSa3hmlUT54R+2cR0ML7j/iRNY=; b=Vhg18+FoxEcE+xHEOwSDDG/x0WU+Iulpxb6dHQnip+Izcp5kj+hAuwWZur31D71pPq JIP991JiNgfQvFlE8EH8nwwmJbFdIHeYAIujeSIWIjtv+WqeGA7y6xO5EGfxL1kwaDJB t6hkDdwoA6W8P+lsEF4pFMgIanVYiK6ngOWdc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=Wr35yjfEjtcagBBo6stJ8EdT5Z5UnTpvi5Ce1V0knxV5l6NA1JUdVmYiU9B0k129ng LExdkBBXefhOEzd8OOE0l4VrIdvNLK27PJrl2yi3sl9QZz5XqQcEalEQ35jhJ6cJeSK/ d+j28VS0dEkgxXBGehtsFGMdGDfjIbDf3hfl0= Received: by 10.211.146.5 with SMTP id y5mr2199830ebn.41.1254864292100; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.125? (ip193-123-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl [87.210.123.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm107901eyx.17.2009.10.06.14.24.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:24:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Roy Stuivenberg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:24:12 +0200 Message-Id: <1254864252.13585.7.camel@rs-unix.roycs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: follow up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:24:53 -0000 ps This is the output building gnome2 : gnomelogalyzer said something like no problem found. checking for ALACARTE... yes checking for pygobject 2.15.1 installed for python required_python_abi... not found configure: error: required pygobject version not found ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please run the gnomelogalyzer, available from "http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/gnomelogalyzer.sh", which will diagnose the problem and suggest a solution. If - and only if - the gnomelogalyzer cannot solve the problem, report the build failure to the FreeBSD GNOME team at gnome@FreeBSD.org, and attach (a) "/usr/ports/deskutils/alacarte/work/alacarte-0.12.1/config.log", (b) the output of the failed make command, and (c) the gnomelogalyzer output. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (i.e. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). Put your attachment up on any website, copy-and-paste into http://freebsd-gnome.pastebin.com, or use send-pr(1) with the attachment. Try to avoid sending any attachments to the mailing list (gnome@FreeBSD.org), because attachments sent to FreeBSD mailing lists are usually discarded by the mailing list software. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/deskutils/alacarte. *** Error code 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 21:42:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B680106566B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:42:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [209.240.79.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4218FC14 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC87119C38; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:42:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gene" To: Chris Cowart Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:42:52 -0500 Message-Id: <20091006214115.M53910@brightstar.bomgardner.net> In-Reply-To: <20091006180519.GA63605@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> References: <20091006174735.M14938@brightstar.bomgardner.net> <20091006180519.GA63605@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.0.11 (fbsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FBSD 7.2 - ports blocked but no firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:42:53 -0000 On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:05:19 -0700, Chris Cowart wrote > Gene wrote: > > I'm running 7.2 GENERIC and installed the unrealirc port. I've started it up > > and can connect from localhost just fine. But when attempting to connect from > > the outside world (eg. from another box on the lan) I get connection refused. > > > > I've tried both with and without ipfilter running (with appropriate rule). > > Other ports are reachable including a non-standard port used for ssh. > > > > The question: Could there be any reason that port 6667 might be blocked? > > (Unrealircd questions can be taken up elsewhere). > > It's possible you've configured Unrealircd to only listen on > localhost and not on "*". > > Look for something like: > > | listen *:6697 > | { > | ... > | }; > > And make sure it's "*" and not "127.0.0.1". > Checked and it's correct. -- To everything there is a season, And a time to every purpose under heaven. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 22:27:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F0C1065679 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:27:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [209.240.79.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AA78FC18 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927EF119C38 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:27:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gene" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 17:27:56 -0500 Message-Id: <20091006222401.M59367@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 192.168.0.11 (fbsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: KDE broke after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:27:57 -0000 Hi - I upgraded ports and, as usual, kde4 broke. What I'd like to do is simply remove the existing remains of kde and reinstall. BUT since kde4 is just a metaport deinstalling doesn't seem to work. Is there another way to delete and reinstall kde4? Thanks, IHN, Gene -- To everything there is a season, And a time to every purpose under heaven. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 22:44:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5714E1065670 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:44:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cstankevitz@toyon.com) Received: from smtp1.toyon.com (206-190-77-154.static.twtelecom.net [206.190.77.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45898FC0A for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.1.100] (hosts253.toyon.com [65.160.147.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.toyon.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n96Mmqg1015132 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:48:52 -0700 Message-ID: <4ACBC82C.3030502@toyon.com> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:43:56 -0700 From: Chris Stankevitz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Updating the ports collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:44:02 -0000 The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and sysinstall. Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods. Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to obtain it? Q2: Is this explained in the handbook? If so, where? Thank you, Chris PS: I uses sysinstall to obtain the ports collection from the CD during OS install From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 22:57:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78327106568B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67AE8FC1B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4489411.home.otenet.gr [94.71.76.203]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n96MvLbj007771; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 01:57:21 +0300 Message-ID: <4ACBCB51.5090901@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:57:21 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Stankevitz References: <4ACBC82C.3030502@toyon.com> In-Reply-To: <4ACBC82C.3030502@toyon.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating the ports collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:57:24 -0000 Chris Stankevitz wrote: > > The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for > obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and sysinstall. > > Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but > only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods. > > Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to > obtain it? You can use csup as explained in section 4.5.1. This will update the Ports Collection you installed from CD/DVD by fetching only the required newer files Or, you can use portsnap too like this: First time: portsnap fetch extract Subsequent times: portsnap fetch update If you are starting with an empty Ports tree (for example you skipped installing it from CD during sysinstall) portsnap will be faster than csup. (Note you can start with an empty tree and csup as well) Anytime you decide to switch from csup to portsnap, always perform an 'extract' > > Q2: Is this explained in the handbook? If so, where? > In section 4.5 as you noticed already. Portsnap is also revisited in chapter 24: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-portsnap.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 6 23:33:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F31F106566B for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:33:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp104.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (smtp104.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.15.63]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48EF98FC20 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 97939 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2009 23:06:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=Cr3BVVTVe0jQYpNtJ/2JrxFq+To3eRW0GEjKfpT4K8SN22Q/VB3BJHMg5bEL/L/ZL2iidxR/AtwuM7lFgfeLB/fHeK72LrlRya6riHGWzuHUKkX2oAvt83G7ANNtSRpr1o5XgqZSl/NFVtPtHBFPP4lX1BsO/ZY4ovQW6TO94zc= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp104.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2009 23:06:25 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: VKQ7oYeswBAV653GRKMxfhyzC5Zoy8ct2tRUzd_ROcWZ X-YMail-OSG: ldDYlEcVM1m0KeD67MGOaXlBDNuncRY2QaE6h0MZpmoH_CykvUrGef_3C6AqttYN2gp7j5Lvh2bn8v6VAYj2nKW1dZc8WvrezDcp7n6G84xxx7PNGHrBqJPck.X.fSm33udzRHmNr4SfrizsJ.HWOfkR8xDEr9BYexjmv4wIRAnO3JZJHeSLG_B_EaCgSPy0mzqfpXBr6veA81Q9RDO6_MdKG7I24VDxVJKd9uQxKe0RjUSxRwsGu9qY6Yvl5d3zEX5bE_sREtDbDFsHXei9V4R8V7gU0WVdwuA4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2cd283d1fad03837950ef165cf75756c@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jeffry killen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Subject: Salvage files from harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:33:06 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 04:07:51 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:33:06 -0000 Hello; I have a hard drive that contains the /var file system in a system that will not boot. In single user mode I can mount /var. I want to take this disk and put it in another FreeBSD system and try to copy the files I need off of it to a safe place. The system I will plug it into will also have a separate disk with /var. Is there going to be a conflict with the labels and how would I best go about this? system is FreeBSD v6.2 Thank you in advance for guidance, suggestions. JK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 00:22:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD56A1065672 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f207.google.com (mail-ew0-f207.google.com [209.85.219.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E498FC0A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so1196768ewy.7 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:22:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VL/QcSUUHYXAxxqF7XoyZzzKTgGKNnnVJAhZf0TChz4=; b=Nu+inGCDVC0CP1HTDZMgqfZj0VR5F4eRsXmEYbKYiNLcRP4QNUQ681LKaz/d9DW4gt RdfzL7Ym58guIVmKmBCaWNNinzX1jVVKuQH/PFkawjzSXUxXb6OGaRKAFcZoeMis6MEp TezN4KDrHHaOsSPR3WUJjS8GGe9ElXSslH0vQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HgKVaIdKPp7i/4dTHib/NEcp5vQ5aVCyyNaBbzMhH11GMt8zs+sAVLbSGbT+vpxC0r cNWITAARA1Fvxp6K0zorWL3YdPmWuyKsH4Ttm0kp+LypQnh90QgoBoeDYZat6GgybDh6 hEt7tkh040L5TisW2XkVoAmpGWVZS7quEco0U= Received: by 10.216.45.19 with SMTP id o19mr477499web.152.1254874923759; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm294306eyd.6.2009.10.06.17.22.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 01:22:00 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091007012200.0c1cf378@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4ACBC82C.3030502@toyon.com> References: <4ACBC82C.3030502@toyon.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Updating the ports collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:22:05 -0000 On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:43:56 -0700 Chris Stankevitz wrote: > > The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for > obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and > sysinstall. > > Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but > only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods. > > Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to > obtain it? I'd suggest that you don't use the tree from sysinstall, unless your intent is not to update the tree until the next release. If you use portsnap the tree gets overwritten with the "extract", so you might as well not bother with the on-disk version. If you use csup then the steps are 1. Set the tag to match the port snapshot on the disc and run csup 2. Set the tag to "." (the current tree) and run csup again Step 1 does nothing to the tree, but if you skip it you may end with some stale files left in your tree, which could cause serious problems. IMO this is more trouble than it's worth unless you have a dialup connection. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 00:31:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E986A1065698 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@rhavenn.net) Received: from smtp114.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp114.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E368FC19 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay11.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay11.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 759EB17FE43; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay11.relay.dfw.mlsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rhavenn-AT-rhavenn.net) with ESMTPSA id 418F217FD69; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:14:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by alucard.int.rhavenn.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AB5EF11428D; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:14:38 -0800 (AKDT) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:14:38 -0800 From: Henrik Hudson To: jeffry killen Message-ID: <20091007001438.GA6885@alucard.int.rhavenn.net> References: <2cd283d1fad03837950ef165cf75756c@prodigy.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2cd283d1fad03837950ef165cf75756c@prodigy.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Salvage files from harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:31:37 -0000 On Fri, 07 Oct 2011, jeffry killen wrote: > Hello; > I have a hard drive that contains the /var file system in a system that > will not boot. > In single user mode I can mount /var. > > I want to take this disk and put it in another FreeBSD system and > try to copy the files I need off of it to a safe place. > > The system I will plug it into will also have a separate disk with > /var. > > Is there going to be a conflict with the labels and how would I > best go about this? > > system is FreeBSD v6.2 > > Thank you in advance for guidance, suggestions. It shouldn't be a problem. If you stick the "broken" drive in a new system it will show up as a new device to the 2nd system. You will then manually mount the 1st system via the device node to wherever you want. It will not auto-mount that to /var . So, for example your 2nd system has /dev/ad4s1 as its main disk. When you plig the 2nd disk (from the old box) it will show up as /dev/ad5s1 or similar. YOu would then just mount the /var/ slice to wherever you want. For example: mount /dev/ad5sa6 /mnt/oldvar or similar. Please note that your device nodes and slice numbers will most likely be different. Henrik -- Henrik Hudson lists@rhavenn.net ----------------------------------------- "God, root, what is difference?" Pitr; UF From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 00:47:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD991065670 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f192.google.com (mail-qy0-f192.google.com [209.85.221.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492E88FC20 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so5198157qyk.7 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:47:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; bh=iyebgaDhRlkdDEnVG8oQVU+2Tf3Xx1FxdPrQBV3b42w=; b=jzwaMtKaKFaUnerspVl2tOGbq+QPLvwgQf4thyFPk9221brmGJg5Zs60wQlMCQ5nut WWahWVATqzZaK2M8nOI+06YiKAIDY4r5GOMvQRLYLTQzjkm8U41C4BF5eGaUcysX2WZ3 nNBpDZQeVUT8qHk2itUZKTsOJBdQAf3VbY3Js= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; b=t8A9l6eeYsHqGsVILmHIBb5g+MN8OlTUPayAgPHNIuYx9HGz1Tqz6YnSXZT45XTOCp ICuTZYdd3HLWoFa5aJUZfsHue7IjxxkPMHeksyTVikTBA6xB2i8YOL/i/C6rkBcLj0xi XiKKXEidx4vlgrgxGcoGsA78YTZBuru3WDuVQ= Received: by 10.224.63.1 with SMTP id z1mr1994157qah.314.1254876430050; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dimension.5p.local (adsl-99-35-15-84.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.35.15.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm754507qwi.55.2009.10.06.17.47.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:47:03 -0400 From: jhell To: Henrik Hudson In-Reply-To: <20091007001438.GA6885@alucard.int.rhavenn.net> Message-ID: References: <2cd283d1fad03837950ef165cf75756c@prodigy.net> <20091007001438.GA6885@alucard.int.rhavenn.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x89D8547E X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: jeffry killen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Salvage files from harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:47:13 -0000 On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:14 -0800, lists@ wrote: > On Fri, 07 Oct 2011, jeffry killen wrote: > >> Hello; >> I have a hard drive that contains the /var file system in a system that >> will not boot. >> In single user mode I can mount /var. >> >> I want to take this disk and put it in another FreeBSD system and >> try to copy the files I need off of it to a safe place. >> >> The system I will plug it into will also have a separate disk with >> /var. >> >> Is there going to be a conflict with the labels and how would I >> best go about this? >> >> system is FreeBSD v6.2 >> >> Thank you in advance for guidance, suggestions. > > It shouldn't be a problem. If you stick the "broken" drive in a new > system it will show up as a new device to the 2nd system. > > You will then manually mount the 1st system via the device node to > wherever you want. It will not auto-mount that to /var . > > So, for example your 2nd system has /dev/ad4s1 as its main disk. > When you plig the 2nd disk (from the old box) it will show up as > /dev/ad5s1 or similar. YOu would then just mount the /var/ slice to > wherever you want. > > For example: > mount /dev/ad5sa6 /mnt/oldvar > > or similar. Please note that your device nodes and slice numbers > will most likely be different. > > Henrik > I think (correct me if I am wrong) he is trying to describe that glabel is being used on both systems and that he is worried that a label of "var" that would be in /dev/ufs/var on two separate disks would be conflicting and which one would be mounted first as he does not wish for the disk he is trying to save the contents of to be mounted and be used as the var of the system he is placing the said disk he wants to recover. -- %{----------------------------------------------------+ | dataix.net!jhell 2048R/89D8547E 2009-09-30 | | BSD since FreeBSD 4.2 Linux since Slackware 2.1 | | 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E | +----------------------------------------------------%} From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 00:50:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72792106566B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f192.google.com (mail-qy0-f192.google.com [209.85.221.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239288FC16 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so5200714qyk.7 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:50:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; bh=ZBpNcWjLBNMmakIp2LUtoB72eGRTlVkhMR/T6mtZHe8=; b=qnE4ZgSNGyNojfmrTtkgkygZF80pM2YJHE2K4MzSzozxtT/IIucms2TxieyT0E6Lam yssginnh1+P7g6jKE1WnGr+HUzxQKYA/aqgTfpKdG+0HnpplBYm4kTQxsJN86qmTvTCO NfjweOK3y/xXpCz5gSYqDHGPvaAfg/v+DuGY4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; b=bYz5cEu5glNOTzcaP+F48L9WIwUF3qwi5jrKJvdWonKlPlmvh3fvfPQNZipXRXSsPC yJHa0LQHTjxcSkBVWIA6lFfWqicteIhIJE+lVRaeVbn8CP/w/cC8qFC4zIhpdHrAHI70 Q3KGelGCfoOAYvWS+VBziTcw0nuIsnGwGpSYM= Received: by 10.224.73.37 with SMTP id o37mr2000058qaj.252.1254876642481; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dimension.5p.local (adsl-99-35-15-84.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.35.15.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm489796qwj.4.2009.10.06.17.50.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:50:39 -0400 From: jhell To: jeffry killen In-Reply-To: <2cd283d1fad03837950ef165cf75756c@prodigy.net> Message-ID: References: <2cd283d1fad03837950ef165cf75756c@prodigy.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x89D8547E X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Salvage files from harddrive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:50:43 -0000 On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 04:07 -0700, jekillen@ wrote: > Hello; > I have a hard drive that contains the /var file system in a system that > will not boot. > In single user mode I can mount /var. > > I want to take this disk and put it in another FreeBSD system and > try to copy the files I need off of it to a safe place. > > The system I will plug it into will also have a separate disk with > /var. > > Is there going to be a conflict with the labels and how would I > best go about this? > > system is FreeBSD v6.2 > > Thank you in advance for guidance, suggestions. > JK > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > If you can mount this disk in single user mode your best bet to be safe is just glabel it to something else that your second system is not before you take the disk out of the machine. Even though I don't think it should/would be a problem I can not speak of a authoritative nature on this subject because I have not had to test such cases. Best regards. -- %{----------------------------------------------------+ | dataix.net!jhell 2048R/89D8547E 2009-09-30 | | BSD since FreeBSD 4.2 Linux since Slackware 2.1 | | 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E | +----------------------------------------------------%} From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 00:51:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41680106566B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EAF8FC1A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 00:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028E63A3898; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:51:37 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1254876697; x= 1256691097; bh=3vm9xJa9OU+mT+vyOYYRe8rulQ1Y9yt/Mrak6RmdpLk=; b=f nJpjiSeqryLeu1Eqp4m4YjrRUwn173xoS8Hz22sKUqQKVQpJOOyAMs2+QQKbF5Zt QWjPVlB6gcqw211LBrUX26PoUCRAQLYwLrdw8y7tF5gOg319zlVkDXC2LmRT1x4/ dzi27DK2jUp4Aj13NzlubCFFiuZUesg9ZGwMR9CCxc= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 0-+69C6cT5T7; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:51:37 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C4C43A3897; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:51:37 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n970pajx012236; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:51:36 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:51:36 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200910070051.n970pajx012236@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: cstankevitz@toyon.com In-reply-to: <4ACBC82C.3030502@toyon.com> (message from Chris Stankevitz on Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:43:56 -0700) References: <4ACBC82C.3030502@toyon.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating the ports collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:51:40 -0000 Hi Chris, > The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for > obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and sysinstall. > > Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but > only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods. > > Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to > obtain it? I cannot speak for postsnap, but for cvsup: - you re-run sysinstall and install cvsup from the CD (Configure/Packages/Net/CVSup) - or, since you installed the port tree, you go to /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui and you make, make install, make clean > Q2: Is this explained in the handbook? If so, where? Some may correct me, but I use a file that contains: *default tag=. *default host=cvsup2.jp.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ports-all You may change the default host accordingly. Then I use the command cvsup Best, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 01:08:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1031065695 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 01:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.olyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC998FC14 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 01:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so3504643bwz.43 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:08:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=++D6oEaFM45CtmQn2mRqbtuielS1rF/fUbejJcD+f5Q=; b=whdXY3PltuVsWWxLLJv/hWuFAhRrY5YUKPolls02yi54n3Ms42HnYkz15XsyGToUbW 9mc8+DEpPzJZo1ymErclEW02BHqnzrWkbJ/olsUusTqgYuctDy575r9sRosEN/cOp2wH zkUOHd4u1eCkLc3otcO+G8onxrywKoBj66OJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=DoK9lhJ0bB/Xd4L8zzgY1RYJ5WiUej1IcWdNZlXu4VNd0q7RYZUwwJzhEQn6rWCqY+ UtsSfHRvfsQkU/+YELP/V0cFxyMJNGQhe5aaf7uDCygZg62tEIb19HI/RYuZTrvKJ4at 0ZXFLLw4IYGsi005MwoTXePkWeIy7MtoF593Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.27.194 with SMTP id j2mr622050fac.76.1254877708260; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:08:28 -0400 Message-ID: <1d7089c40910061808t6e7aa944iaa07d97f736901d2@mail.gmail.com> From: Henry Olyer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Gregory T Helton Subject: sound enablement on an HP CQ60-419WM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:08:29 -0000 So I want to show a movie; How do I make sound work? I'll be using mplayer. --jg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 01:08:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E21106568B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 01:08:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8728FC0A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 01:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9718QJX081598; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:08:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 21:07:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <200910070051.n970pajx012236@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Message-ID: References: <4ACBC82C.3030502@toyon.com> <200910070051.n970pajx012236@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: cstankevitz@toyon.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating the ports collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:08:32 -0000 On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi Chris, > >> The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for >> obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and sysinstall. >> >> Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but >> only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods. >> >> Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to >> obtain it? > > I cannot speak for postsnap, but for cvsup: csup works (almost?) the same as cvsup, and is in the base system nowadays. I used to install cvsup, but now I only install fastest_cvsup; it's just a utility to find the fastest server for you at the moment. > Some may correct me, but I use a file that contains: > > *default tag=. > *default host=cvsup2.jp.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/var/db > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > ports-all I do the same, and run csup as: csup -g -h `/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup -Q -c us` /etc/supfile.ports ...where /etc/supfile.ports is pretty much as above. In that case, it doesn't matter what "default host" is set to, since the -h option to csup overrides the default. The '-c us' part applies to me, but it might not for you; see the man page. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 03:14:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E7A1065679 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 03:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas@sanbe-farma.com) Received: from kikazu.sanbe-farma.com (kikazu.sanbe-farma.com [202.6.239.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8958FC17 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 03:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sanbe-farma.com (gwsanbe.sanbe-farma.com [202.6.239.18]) by kikazu.sanbe-farma.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with SMTP id n973Dxkc051532 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:13:59 +0700 (WIT) (envelope-from thomas@sanbe-farma.com) Received: (qmail 66294 invoked by uid 98); 7 Oct 2009 10:13:59 +0700 Received: from 192.168.16.75 by gwsanbe.sanbe-farma.com (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.90.2/3620. spamassassin: 3.2.1. 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(thomas@192.168.16.75) by gwsanbe.sanbe-farma.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 10:13:59 +0700 Message-ID: <4ACC0770.2050905@sanbe-farma.com> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:13:52 +0700 From: Thomas Wahyudi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Judd References: <62c908120910060136y130ebdeem96b04931a112ed02@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tseveendorj Ochirlantuu , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BTX Halted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:14:02 -0000 I have the same problem but 32bit version is running normaly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 06:45:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1FB10656A3 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:45:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F668FC1B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so4146818pzk.3 for ; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:45:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=3V1DchaKieemhN8jW6GrbTb4oOm0Y2u52o3AsBvritU=; b=i14Eh3OE/dNy/WSKtRUDvw1ilgYXtX88JP8C7bOOTL9C5pZA5OBgxen6zB9MJgDXJj lntbM16bXyrAu65fKqWx/1xFANt8RyQUy/qpqrHYe0MfsrV/nGdAiERAr+KMPxtnhKCn 2r5VC4P4MqK+qDmIjZ+t60ckI709YaVSQD1H4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=TZDyGiY1uxAChfMCHH/UBvb7x8STLNNtIogI0Dy2TV8wiTbapS0DIKWK4Ugkdemc4u 10NPHoWaUYs8LSdLGFNjAmREHmHgl2dEBJinhmRpGcuXhVlbt5+ZAvVbNi7EnIRKky1L 09G0nLTkceW0/y8qM7onbMl1xfZdlwWQlyYSI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.26.41 with SMTP id d41mr168833wfj.228.1254897936838; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:45:36 -0700 Message-ID: <2daa8b4e0910062345r83fa23aj113b062af114887f@mail.gmail.com> From: David Allen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: A general sed question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:45:37 -0000 I keep bumping up against this, so I thought I'd throw this question out to those who understand sed better than I do. What I'm trying to do is to clean up the contents of some files (/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC would be a good example) to get more readable diffs. To that end, I'm trying to use sed to - delete commented lines - remove inline comments - remove trailing spaces and/or tabs - delete blank lines, and/or lines containing just spaces and/or tabs - expand tabs Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 06:49:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9166E1065670 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91468FC13 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-70-227.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.227]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n976nPpJ087825; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:49:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4ACC39EF.6010208@bah.homeip.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:49:19 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/1.0.8 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henry Olyer References: <1d7089c40910061808t6e7aa944iaa07d97f736901d2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1d7089c40910061808t6e7aa944iaa07d97f736901d2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Gregory T Helton Subject: Re: sound enablement on an HP CQ60-419WM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:49:40 -0000 Henry Olyer said the following on 2009-10-07 03:08: > So I want to show a movie; > > How do I make sound work? I'll be using mplayer. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 06:53:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1B8106566B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@yahoo.com) Received: from web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.49.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3286F8FC0A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 30319 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Oct 2009 06:27:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254896830; bh=lUU+rKlRqrIgKaeC3I015pFlWqBIWyzg/fcivGyqg/U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cA49W9N/iQovPmpnMPk1XGo7rfmh0E0HXi/joY6qW5emrJ8F9u7y+b9nDmF+baqfbHOJOetFeSeMlVDE+rT/61AuhS3eEQrpzNISJn0dKQmdr0//H6omcR5wcXtshg1IfmAW8LCoWZGcrQOKT1GkRW1dZfbk+cFvKVBbmaijb0Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tiuGhmcIYXANo+Fs156BUk/CWaI9gN0K67/Hzf4THw/u7IaU0cnMtdIglrdbjKSoO9wMnO4rjB1moRGbXPSx1aFe0Y384juzY2Q2N1QZd4W/FWJaFVq9WpCovaH8YhH1RmBOUbfe5IUfmx9w8hTvSpiY/RxfPKIlAsFQf4IVFMQ=; Message-ID: <106754.29417.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: nsMzPD0VM1kEQD_k0cja.BT.8k2hGwmTyCtwrEuMTG46Q2JXTs8Ysx4R2grkldoN2PHVPSV6figUzB.wcZXNA_A2ZfNZMj9jAsY5m1kLNBfPIU6HGhmBJxctL2b3QcPIdBAKjyD3vwmp.zto56NOO8Pnljz4EodTRYaJ6ggWD02pOz.DC0t1tp1GmMfiVkneEhTcq.ZhDH4ATs72mGD53.pYIcwOwyWqEOSAJH81he49A1O.bvUL65dWPUc5pmAkl4dqpM_9tTqmIjFwiEOxkbcKLTUz8c5mHIPmKSnb4B.xsVC5uL45pfJr6M7TSDF.CWmeyeXhLg2y4B6rpurRS0rbSNgMWVhUZ_S5AKb_J.SIpJ0OKMrCOAu103s- Received: from [206.190.77.154] by web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:27:09 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:27:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Stankevitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Howto: ethernet card on dell M6300 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:53:51 -0000 I was saddened to find that my ethernet card did not work on my FreeBSD 7.2 machine. The bge driver in the kernel did not support the broadcom 5756ME. Here is how I got it to work: 1. Set my machine up to compile the kernel (see section 8.5 of manual) 2. Edit /usr/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bgereg.h. Add a definition for BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5756ME with the value 0x1674 after BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5755M: #define BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5755M 0x1673 #define BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5756ME 0x1674 #define BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5780 0x166A 3. Edit /usr/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c. Add a reference to BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5756ME after BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5755M: { BCOM_VENDORID, BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5755M }, { BCOM_VENDORID, BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5756ME }, { BCOM_VENDORID, BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5780 }, 4. Compile and install the kernel, and reboot 5. Configure the card using sysinstall Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 06:54:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7E11065697 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrisstankevitz@yahoo.com) Received: from web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.49.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFC308FC25 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 64000 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Oct 2009 06:28:00 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1254896880; bh=iSsYQ/Y6ae/GxZpIfUSQ9W13TBp1tiIsk00iDFPUAZ4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2bGXYSF3ZWOwSwPisBvyeR50LylxnOR6MoIc3MSlK9g6czQPluLECXKYizbsJMwcTgdXOfFh963oVS7qjXgi4/Gv7QecUIaISQYHri6Po4Rhqwg7PQo2bNmHUPYY1Yfai2mmND45LFv/3MmtbD0vurppScHbRhv6mI+vjBYy1Sk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g6PAbYJWlfmXOLVEw8q6l3yMOEda2xV/vnf579qEhORjzLuEQCeoOFFBlRLm79XGFlNAuI6eS13QDYMoGRHnvDsIFhaRCLlVdOkWeBdCKgIbqHnB+XJph74B59BETuNrtxePEtVao5BQbum8+7YQIx4KjHQjD6zTGJPZiZ4Um7Y=; Message-ID: <874310.63278.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ZDRdcdAVM1m_c9kSAMLS6UHoUAwsZ7a9UqDmXJuggnCXFtErelYbQnvhkJbJc2PtFQxG40SRlx9MxYgST19suyooLKWyd9mkY9A0pHsNRLAcbRRLo20KQgc9MyHLqWdQPG5.o1wi0C6QcElNUxLT.2e4uHjJsLxLKefUTuRM2ONfqGz91uCDz2hHDZxdu9O08rjWc83Hsh5TmtDe6Hf6slwOW1ayei5kMYYjITTtCVJTRdbFZD_ACR1GCt_FIawDtVD_o.CcSBcY3210EfHAukWcz3fSriaxhGOjQ411vuozSqGZkrCXP.PUlMYlPkCxdLPfWjw.pv3aR6hKYyx04hFiBIGpSCnCfQFA1ncEEI9mvA5rnMUvxJZ3dGB9DUC2hsoUdOu_0_aL.18IlP6LR4A- Received: from [206.190.77.154] by web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:28:00 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:28:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Stankevitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:54:43 -0000 Hello, I just installed FreeBSD. After I installed it, I was surprised to find only 26M of space on /. I used the auto-defaults during the Disklabel portion of the install. [cstankevitz@crs-m6300 ~]$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s1a 496M 430M 26M 94% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/ad4s1e 496M 14K 456M 0% /tmp /dev/ad4s1f 113G 1.9G 102G 2% /usr /dev/ad4s1d 2.9G 7.9M 2.6G 0% /var Q1: Is 26M free space on / after installing FreeBSD normal? Q2: Will I be able to install GNOME, Firefox, download 30 MB of files, and place them on my GNOME dekstop? (I believe the desktop is located at /home/cstankevitz/.desktop aka on the root partition where there is only 26M of free space) Q3: Which changes, if any, should I make to my system? Thank you, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 07:08:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C9F106566B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A238FC18 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8D13A386C; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:07:59 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1254899278; x= 1256713678; bh=PPr8hOMPbHVF2o+BLIn2a2dC/O/3I4i6U1XcHIOkBQM=; b=i HT49tRIb8wTTiWJPPKdXQAMpnbRWrJTw1IDoQcqn8swKeaPzIC+ILXxZDm4gsxou vPBdXibzpwU6Oe+5qQ6Mg8VoXwPAHBgThn/p0mN7otO3ngFe0mJawQZWTU+kxhcj ntXYmRN8+SEsghHdIaYh1qvVkpVQ/dw9WKDNVxmkAQ= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 6DIeXbxHKKwZ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:07:58 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 335FC3A386B; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:07:58 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9777t7X070411; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:07:55 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:07:55 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200910070707.n9777t7X070411@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: chrisstankevitz@yahoo.com In-reply-to: <874310.63278.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> (message from Chris Stankevitz on Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:28:00 -0700 (PDT)) References: <874310.63278.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:08:02 -0000 Hi, > Q1: Is 26M free space on / after installing FreeBSD normal? That is not the right question to ask :) The question would be "is it normal that / is using 430M?". It depemds what you have in / file system. After instal, I have 271M used, but for example, my user home directory is on a separate file system. > Q2: Will I be able to install GNOME, Firefox, Yes, the installed software goes to /usr > download 30 MB of > files, and place them on my GNOME dekstop? (I believe the desktop > is located at /home/cstankevitz/.desktop aka on the root partition > where there is only 26M of free space) No because you have your home directory in the root file system and there is only 36 MB left, so you cannot use 30MB. > Q3: Which changes, if any, should I make to my system? Reinstall with sensible partitioning; for a desktop machine I'd use: / 2GB /usr 20~30GB /var 2GB /tmp 1GB /home the rest On the servers I have, have a maximum of 10GB used on the busiest machine, including a full buildworld/buildkernel. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 08:06:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD581065670 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF728FC13 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id B46E116B844; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 03:06:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.84]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 192A416B838; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 03:06:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 02:57:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 02:57:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Chris Stankevitz In-Reply-To: <874310.63278.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20091007025720.A81275@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <874310.63278.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:06:12 -0000 On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Hello, > > I just installed FreeBSD. After I installed it, I was surprised to find > only 26M of space on /. I used the auto-defaults during the Disklabel > portion of the install. > > [cstankevitz@crs-m6300 ~]$ df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad4s1a 496M 430M 26M 94% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/ad4s1e 496M 14K 456M 0% /tmp > /dev/ad4s1f 113G 1.9G 102G 2% /usr > /dev/ad4s1d 2.9G 7.9M 2.6G 0% /var > > Q1: Is 26M free space on / after installing FreeBSD normal? Goodness! What version did you install? > Q2: Will I be able to install GNOME, Firefox, download 30 MB of files, and > place them on my GNOME dekstop? (I believe the desktop is located at > /home/cstankevitz/.desktop aka on the root partition where there is only > 26M of free space) The default installation used to make /home a symbolic link to /usr/home. > Q3: Which changes, if any, should I make to my system? Move /home to /usr/home and create a symbolic link /home -> /usr/home That should give you some breathing room in / unless you have the bad habit of running as root and crud accumulates in /root or you keep several old kernels. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 08:40:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD901065693 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unix.hacker@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DCA8FC14 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pkQv1c0021eYJf8AAkT9H5; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:27:09 +0000 Received: from zauberer.unix.freebsd.org ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pkT71c0020Yq9Sc01kT8au; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:27:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 04:22:42 -0400 From: "unix.hacker" To: Lars Eighner Message-ID: <20091007042242.13e62c42@zauberer.unix.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20091007025720.A81275@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <874310.63278.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20091007025720.A81275@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Chris Stankevitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:40:20 -0000 On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 02:57:27 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner wrote: *SNIP* > That should give you some breathing room in / unless you have the bad > habit of running as root and crud accumulates in /root or you keep > several old kernels. / and /root should be cleaned as you said, but I don't ever change the size of the / partitions and I personally think they are perfectly sized. I'm thinking the person who asked came from Linux where it's common, and perfectly fine, I might add, to have just the / and /swap partitions. This is perfectly fine, but FreeBSD does more work for you without you having to set up partitions yourself. It keeps busy file systems from bleeding into the ones where the systems keeps its bins. Anyway, I use both Linux and BSD, and I don't understand quite so well why someone said this person couldn't keep things on their desktop, when that stuff is all on /usr.... You're partitions are fine, and using root for everything and filling up that file system... heh, you could do worse using root that often. Using everything as root is a lot like Heroin; You might like it so much you want to do it all the time because NOTHING is holding you back... But, you might also ruin your life BECAUSE nothing is holding you back. Every time you use it (root, Heroin) you're risking your ass ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 08:58:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693E2106566B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f192.google.com (mail-qy0-f192.google.com [209.85.221.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101618FC1A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so5460142qyk.7 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:58:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=X9GAsMfbOHf7uJhFfujXEEZtmILMOKMZaPmJBcTfRS4=; b=vHBMDOCFoEa5/nyRm8s6tqjNILz+qEsrrGge2YnO+fSHwkNQk6i+tjTvj7nU+sLW50 k3AYFqSGqg/bYoKDeZ2cFp2XRojgBL5yy1yRQiPg/Dv2sBhS7X2FA1PpuOcsqgNMltdd Us5s6miSxUkgLuOczXAAAnC5cSYYhb+OJOIvY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=uL66lDcG9cK1+G0c3lOCJWaklvEtgbpzMpR4T419fQWsQaBGz5OF4+9KGLHfAMxi7E m0rFQl2W0D++z8zjmgRfy8w1dZVa0t7zDnT7QwkzB2//wIE+LKiSUBlm+E73eUpR20j7 xBnql77ZDT8K/zbH+65bhbQ6sY/Fkc7/inX4g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.59.215 with SMTP id m23mr1332121qch.4.1254905911359; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:58:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0910062345r83fa23aj113b062af114887f@mail.gmail.com> References: <2daa8b4e0910062345r83fa23aj113b062af114887f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 01:58:31 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640910070158j51471e39pe8719ed088eea1ea@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: David Allen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A general sed question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:58:32 -0000 Uh, I know I'm stating the obvious, but you might try these 2 techniques to enhance your diff experience: 1. Use "diff -w". 2. Do "cat filename | sort > filename.sorted" for both files you are diffing, and then compare both sorted files. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 09:07:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D32F10657B2 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:07:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A088FC0A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9796wKd007700; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:07:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9796vWU007699; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:06:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:06:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910070906.n9796vWU007699@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, fbsd@bomgardner.net In-Reply-To: <20091006214115.M53910@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:07:13 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: FBSD 7.2 - ports blocked but no firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, fbsd@bomgardner.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:07:20 -0000 Gene wrote: > On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:05:19 -0700, Chris Cowart wrote > > Gene wrote: > > > I'm running 7.2 GENERIC and installed the unrealirc port. I've started it up > > > and can connect from localhost just fine. But when attempting to connect from > > > the outside world (eg. from another box on the lan) I get connection refused. > > > > > > I've tried both with and without ipfilter running (with appropriate rule). > > > Other ports are reachable including a non-standard port used for ssh. > > > > > > The question: Could there be any reason that port 6667 might be blocked? > > > (Unrealircd questions can be taken up elsewhere). > > > > It's possible you've configured Unrealircd to only listen on > > localhost and not on "*". > > > > Look for something like: > > > > | listen *:6697 > > | { > > | ... > > | }; > > > > And make sure it's "*" and not "127.0.0.1". > > Checked and it's correct. Please check the output from this command: sockstat -l | grep :6667 It will tell you if the daemon is listening on localhost only or on all interfaces. This will narrow done the cause of the problem: If the daemon listens on localhost, then it's a configuration problem with that daemon. If it listens on all interfaces ("*"), then the problem is somewhere else, e.g. a packet filter (on the server or client side, or somewhere between), or maybe a typo when starting the client (wrong port number or address). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "We will perhaps eventually be writing only small modules which are identi- fied by name as they are used to build larger ones, so that devices like indentation, rather than delimiters, might become feasible for expressing local structure in the source language." -- Donald E. Knuth, 1974 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 09:41:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23281065696 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726B18FC1F for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C444B28412; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 22:41:42 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 22:41:42 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Chris Stankevitz Message-ID: <20091007094142.GA90993@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <874310.63278.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874310.63278.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:41:44 -0000 On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 11:28:00PM -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote: > Hello, > > I just installed FreeBSD. After I installed it, I was surprised to find only 26M of space on /. I used the auto-defaults during the Disklabel portion of the install. > > [cstankevitz@crs-m6300 ~]$ df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad4s1a 496M 430M 26M 94% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/ad4s1e 496M 14K 456M 0% /tmp > /dev/ad4s1f 113G 1.9G 102G 2% /usr > /dev/ad4s1d 2.9G 7.9M 2.6G 0% /var > > Q1: Is 26M free space on / after installing FreeBSD normal? > The amount used (ie: 430M) looks about right. On my FreeBSD-7.2-STABLE/amd64, running a GENERIC kernel with a minimal /etc, my / filesystem is using 443M. However, this has a /boot/kernel and a /boot/kernel.old, both of which chews up 210M each. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you're right 90% of the time, why quibble about the remaining 3%? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 10:26:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1071065670 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912418FC08 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:26:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n97AQZgw011099; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:26:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n97AQYJw011098; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:26:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:26:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910071026.n97AQYJw011098@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, the.real.david.allen@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0910062345r83fa23aj113b062af114887f@mail.gmail.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:26:50 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: A general sed question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, the.real.david.allen@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:26:52 -0000 David Allen wrote: > I keep bumping up against this, so I thought I'd throw this question out > to those who understand sed better than I do. > > What I'm trying to do is to clean up the contents of some files > (/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC would be a good example) to get more readable > diffs. To that end, I'm trying to use sed to > > - delete commented lines > - remove inline comments > - remove trailing spaces and/or tabs > - delete blank lines, and/or lines containing just spaces and/or tabs > - expand tabs I recommend to use the -Bb options of diff. They cause diff to ignore blank lines and any changes in the amount of white space (including tabs). You can also use -w to ignore *all* white space, but note that "foo bar" and "foobar" are then considered equal, which might not be what you want. So only the removal of comments remains: sed 's/#.*//' That will remove all comments. Afterwards, commented lines are empty, so the -B option of diff will ignore them, so you don't have to remove them explicitly. When using zsh as your shell, you can use a nice feature called "process substitution", so you don't have to create temporary files: diff -Buw <(sed 's/#.*//' GENERIC) <(sed 's/#.*//' MYKERNEL) I think bash has a similar feature, but I don't know the syntax, so please see the manpage if you're a bash user. If you need to do that oftem, it's worth to create an alias or shell function. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "People still program in C. People keep writing shell scripts. *Most* people don't realize the shortcomings of the tools they are using because they a) don't reflect on their workflows and they are b) too lazy to check out alternatives to realize there is help." -- Simon 'corecode' Schubert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 10:59:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979521065670 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:59:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D6F8FC16 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:59:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n97AxO49012424; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:59:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n97AxOex012423; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:59:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:59:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910071059.n97AxOex012423@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, chrisstankevitz@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <106754.29417.qm@web52912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:59:39 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Howto: ethernet card on dell M6300 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:59:41 -0000 Chris Stankevitz wrote: > I was saddened to find that my ethernet card did not work on > my FreeBSD 7.2 machine. The bge driver in the kernel did not > support the broadcom 5756ME. Here is how I got it to work: > > 1. Set my machine up to compile the kernel (see section 8.5 > of manual) > > 2. Edit /usr/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bgereg.h. Add a definition > for BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5756ME with the value 0x1674 after > BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5755M: > > #define BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5755M 0x1673 > #define BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5756ME 0x1674 > #define BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5780 0x166A > > 3. Edit /usr/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c. Add a reference to > BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5756ME after BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5755M: > > { BCOM_VENDORID, BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5755M }, > { BCOM_VENDORID, BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5756ME }, > { BCOM_VENDORID, BCOM_DEVICEID_BCM5780 }, > > 4. Compile and install the kernel, and reboot > > 5. Configure the card using sysinstall Would you please send a problem report containing your patches? You can simply use the send-pr(1) tool, or use the online web form. That way your patches won't get lost. I think that the developers of the NIC drivers aren't always reading the questions@ mailing list. Thank you very much! Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Share your knowledge. It is a way to achieve immortality." -- The Dalai Lama From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 11:10:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1723B106566B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:10:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734F58FC1B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n97BANAe012862; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:10:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n97BANiE012861; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:10:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:10:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910071110.n97BANiE012861@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, chrisstankevitz@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <874310.63278.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:10:38 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, chrisstankevitz@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:10:40 -0000 Chris Stankevitz wrote: > I just installed FreeBSD. After I installed it, I was surprised to > find only 26M of space on /. I used the auto-defaults during the > Disklabel portion of the install. > > [cstankevitz@crs-m6300 ~]$ df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad4s1a 496M 430M 26M 94% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/ad4s1e 496M 14K 456M 0% /tmp > /dev/ad4s1f 113G 1.9G 102G 2% /usr > /dev/ad4s1d 2.9G 7.9M 2.6G 0% /var > > Q1: Is 26M free space on / after installing FreeBSD normal? It depends on the FreeBSD version, and whether you installed the kernel with debug symbols. 430 MB space used in the root file system isn't completely uncommon. Nowadays I recomment to spend 1 GB for the root file system, especially if you plan to keep more than one kernel. > Q2: Will I be able to install GNOME, Firefox, download 30 MB of > files, and place them on my GNOME dekstop? (I believe the desktop is > located at /home/cstankevitz/.desktop aka on the root partition where > there is only 26M of free space) All third-party software goes to /usr, so there's no problem. > Q3: Which changes, if any, should I make to my system? Make sure that /home is a symlink to /usr/home. You already have /var and /tmp on separate partitions, which is good. Personally I would grow the root file system to 1 GB. It's not strictly necessary, but it's better to have some more space there, especially during system updates, e.g. when updating the kernel you want to keep a copy of the old kernel. By the way, I often don't create /tmp as a disk partition, but as a memory disk. This is unrelated to the size of the root file system, though. An entry like this in /etc/fstab will do it: md /tmp mfs rw,nosuid,-s500m,async 0 0 Afterwards you can use the disk partition previously used for /tmp for a different purpose (e.g. for swap, or add it do the preceding partition which would be /var in your case, I think.) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Blogging: Never before have so many people with so little to say said so much to so few. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 11:12:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA0310656A4 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:12:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pjlists@netzkommune.de) Received: from mx1.dui.nkhosting.net (mx1.dui.nkhosting.net [213.9.94.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C021D8FC18 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dui.nkhosting.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36EC1A09B567 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:49:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mx1.dui.nkhosting.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost ( [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30198-03 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:49:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from plastic.fritz.box (unknown [85.183.116.15]) by mx1.dui.nkhosting.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F3C1A09B7B6 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:48:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <9CC197E2-43F9-4583-9DE6-EDC51E1618F0@netzkommune.de> From: Philip Jocks To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:48:19 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: dump_snapshot file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:12:41 -0000 Hi, I had a file /usr/.snap/dump_snapshot being about 15GB in size, which I removed because the partition was filling up. The file's date was always rather current, so I'm wondering, what it was for? I did do a level 0 dump with -0 and -Lau parameters a few weeks ago and always do dumps on other boxes, but never saw a file in the .snap directory growing. For the other partitions, there are no such files, that's why I'm wondering. Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me. Thanks! Philip From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 12:26:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96581065676 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:26:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28E88FC12 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Oct 2009 08:26:58 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QFO97588; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-227.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.227]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Oct 2009 08:08:35 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19148.33986.629983.591360@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 08:08:34 -0400 To: Jonathan Chen In-Reply-To: <20091007094142.GA90993@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <874310.63278.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20091007094142.GA90993@osiris.chen.org.nz> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Chris Stankevitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:27:00 -0000 Jonathan Chen writes: > > I just installed FreeBSD. After I installed it, I was surprised > > to find only 26M of space on /. I used the auto-defaults during > > the Disklabel portion of the install. > > > > [cstankevitz@crs-m6300 ~]$ df -h > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > /dev/ad4s1a 496M 430M 26M 94% / > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > > /dev/ad4s1e 496M 14K 456M 0% /tmp > > /dev/ad4s1f 113G 1.9G 102G 2% /usr > > /dev/ad4s1d 2.9G 7.9M 2.6G 0% /var > > > > Q1: Is 26M free space on / after installing FreeBSD normal? > > > > The amount used (ie: 430M) looks about right. On my > FreeBSD-7.2-STABLE/amd64, running a GENERIC kernel with a minimal > /etc, my / filesystem is using 443M. However, this has a > /boot/kernel and a /boot/kernel.old, both of which chews up 210M > each. Agreed. Other minor suggestions to the OP: check the contents of /root, and move anything large that can live elsewhere and create a symlink. And somethings can just be deleted: if root uses two or three times a year, then a large cache is probably superfluous. Look for any ".core" files, which can usually be deleted. It is my understanding that - providing /tmp is on a separate partition - / should receive very little traffic, and the size should stabilize quickly. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 12:47:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D461065670 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from queueout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (queueout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009748FC13 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091007123739.IGTU27507.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:37:39 +0100 Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org ([82.21.107.64]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20091007123739.FMAG22934.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@catflap.slightlystrange.org> for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:37:39 +0100 Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C551E64BE; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:37:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:37:33 +0100 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091007123732.GA84700@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4ACBC82C.3030502@toyon.com> <200910070051.n970pajx012236@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 sparc64 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ehNlctqhnw0A:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=STKR5dziXgEC4mRAHC0A:9 a=H2o8j8jLqINEaKesf3wA:7 a=7eM6wh_jWcd7qCS1qd9C2RhZvq4A:4 a=T1bchIRxk2IAHrnkl20A:9 a=txjncaZgeX3WWcKnrpxz35-KEmUA:4 Subject: Re: Updating the ports collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:47:52 -0000 --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:07:07PM -0400, Chris Hill wrote: > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Olivier Nicole wrote: >=20 > >Hi Chris, > > > >>The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for > >>obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and sysinstal= l. > >> > >>Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but > >>only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods. > >> > >>Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to > >>obtain it? > > > >I cannot speak for postsnap, but for cvsup: >=20 > csup works (almost?) the same as cvsup, and is in the base system=20 > nowadays. I used to install cvsup, but now I only install fastest_cvsup;= =20 > it's just a utility to find the fastest server for you at the moment. >=20 > >Some may correct me, but I use a file that contains: > > > >*default tag=3D. > >*default host=3Dcvsup2.jp.FreeBSD.org > >*default base=3D/var/db > >*default prefix=3D/usr > >*default release=3Dcvs > >*default delete use-rel-suffix > >*default compress > >ports-all >=20 > I do the same, and run csup as: >=20 > csup -g -h `/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup -Q -c us` /etc/supfile.ports You can set=20 SUPHOST=3D `/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup -Q -c us` SUPFLAGS=3D -g in /etc/make.conf and save yourself some typing. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrMi4wACgkQixf5fBYiFmq6iQCgqXN7LFWE4e4OLGNyYdfWxAPR Vu4AoMdkwxhAqK8O+xD7GhYZ5TjFJED/ =YjZz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 13:05:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B5E1065679 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBEB58FC1C for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 97861 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Oct 2009 13:05:19 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:05:19 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/182.10 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:05:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Daily run reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:05:21 -0000 Hi,=0AI am wondering what process generates the following reports:=0Asecuri= ty run output=0Adaily run output=0Amonthly run output=0A=0AIn my FreeBSD 6.= 3 I had these reports emailed to root, but=A0I haven't recieved them in my= =A0new installation of FreeBSD 7.2.=0ACan I also get a similar report gener= ated for Tripwire?=0A=0AThanks=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 13:09:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F4A106566B for ; 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Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:09:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <496325.97096.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <496325.97096.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:09:51 +0000 Message-ID: <4ad871310910070609r126fb880he201b9f2aa2d3f3f@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Aflatoon Aflatooni Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Daily run reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:09:53 -0000 Hi, On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni w= rote: > Hi, > I am wondering what process generates the following reports: > security run output > daily run output > monthly run output > You should see these lines in /etc/crontab: # Perform daily/weekly/monthly maintenance. 1 3 * * * root periodic daily 15 4 * * 6 root periodic weekly 30 5 1 * * root periodic monthly You can set the MAILTO environment variable in /etc/crontab to mail to an alternate address if needed. > In my FreeBSD 6.3 I had these reports emailed to root, but=A0I haven't re= cieved them in my=A0new installation of FreeBSD 7.2. You should, unless you have a modified /etc/periodic.conf > Can I also get a similar report generated for Tripwire? > I'm not sure about tripwire, but it should either be handled by rc.conf or periodic.conf. --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 13:12:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A991106566B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oloringr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59EF8FC17 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:12:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so5063713ewy.14 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:12:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:x-face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=sseTapy8GY7wkbFdNsnW91YnSysHk20dN9eHqjpri68=; b=WA6L91ZVGLI+FhID0tmNjfSkCsgMMd8XsFAEkHDeIk5CJIDjPz0UyYHRxq3NUaVmtH 43HFEAk/7SSLejzDQTTvAk3kwz7ANmrujBEWijxIMxkOqLQc10H1lacOm7UaXfmAohh8 5ols1W0MzViZBIb8tdeoiV8sXbPoXWkxvgLrY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:x-face :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=tF2jpIkcX0VPlWB+TpwWXw1LifGx/WB+Dv4s9Pjm8yaX/EwtXHL7GpSojWvly1jVnO +KPMpncrqugwxORRzZfmzCulrw6yEQHwUfXG00xYIytdON11obA1e9ldBPERFYLpypb5 hp9ti5mwhowqBoX9umuJrRnmhTGJuK9RKShF0= Received: by 10.216.89.10 with SMTP id b10mr80236wef.182.1254921139578; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from media.localnet (adsl88-116.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.55.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u14sm87290gvf.26.2009.10.07.06.12.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:12:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Jobs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:12:25 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (Linux/2.6.30-ARCH; KDE/4.3.1; i686; ; ) References: <496325.97096.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <496325.97096.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Face: %5EDs|At1pm>WE%P0}6)Hi*s,JH2J${69~j)R"Yu'^P9R3#fvi{LmpsCzxvX*38/, =?iso-8859-1?q?kxcUd=0A=09QVrlS0G?=,}-ll{||\P]; *'Gz`RTG+dzconmNyDY3rJHBmpEJkFj|; %vZO&~T")='B< =?iso-8859-1?q?=3B88=7E=5B=0A=09Cltx6=23=7DN*E?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1721280.PZFWbLB7GK"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200910071612.25272.oloringr@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Daily run reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:12:21 -0000 --nextPart1721280.PZFWbLB7GK Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday 07 October 2009 16:05, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Hi, > I am wondering what process generates the following reports: > security run output > daily run output > monthly run output >=20 > In my FreeBSD 6.3 I had these reports emailed to root, but I haven't > recieved them in my new installation of FreeBSD 7.2. Can I also get a > similar report generated for Tripwire? >=20 > Thanks >=20 i can't login to my fbsd machine to check it out atm, but you could see the= =20 cron file that resides in /etc. /etc/crontab or something that is. i'm pretty sure that those are called fr= om=20 in there =2D-=20 Real programmers don't document. If it was hard to write, it should be hard= to=20 understand. --nextPart1721280.PZFWbLB7GK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkrMk7kACgkQBPpdVEWKA318lwCeMPf4GpQb68Gkl+gwW/uEYOu8 OrwAoPEqP3/k7LFi2sdDZWpuyRHGuMkY =RAv8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1721280.PZFWbLB7GK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 13:49:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7641065679 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:49:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBD98FC15 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n97Dn3rf018685; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:49:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n97Dn3dH018682; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:49:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 07:49:03 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Philip Jocks In-Reply-To: <9CC197E2-43F9-4583-9DE6-EDC51E1618F0@netzkommune.de> Message-ID: References: <9CC197E2-43F9-4583-9DE6-EDC51E1618F0@netzkommune.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:49:03 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dump_snapshot file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:49:05 -0000 On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Philip Jocks wrote: > I had a file /usr/.snap/dump_snapshot being about 15GB in size, which I > removed because the partition was filling up. > The file's date was always rather current, so I'm wondering, what it was for? > I did do a level 0 dump with -0 and -Lau parameters a few weeks ago and > always do dumps on other boxes, but never saw a file in the .snap directory > growing. For the other partitions, there are no such files, that's why I'm > wondering. > Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me. man -P 'less +/-L' dump explains it a bit. The snapshot file is supposed to go away after dump completes, but in your case dump died or was killed before it unlinked the file. On small filesystems, -L is quick enough to not make a noticeable difference. /usr can be huge, and there's a long pause while it makes that snapshot and doesn't seem to be doing anything useful. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 14:35:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EB1106568B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:35:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF1D8FC15 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so4820186fxm.36 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:35:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FghYj0a1yshLXJpu+f+OlwJjazpuBVKTJVI9j3fpQdQ=; b=dOYShBPtxlfoWHVh4iz0D51Xl3qih2TdxK4i0eRzhbAKX7+HQUVZNLpJLPke0Qqoe+ jBXwjAWbmb3ecline/3QMD905DREhFNKZV3t49NoKXHFA1YIBE75T1OZE4nrsev7uGVm euazUCsiwd8IOTmVBM+7sA8GoTQXvL9QUfiwI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=szGv9g+6INqc8IYD77mARbuTS2JvsYc2+zCgNoRh9y6uLViDKFiUTdeU7zssm3AAUx Lzff6RZ+VcUAj7HNUh8TdRA6usuglWJD8w0x3bUWPEyDiGlhQKK29fwf50hAbUXS5wX4 UBrAvjyNT+44DNIjOwMSoCvDhu/PYjDOJlecI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.132 with SMTP id t4mr244780hbt.88.1254926151016; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:35:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091007123732.GA84700@torus.slightlystrange.org> References: <4ACBC82C.3030502@toyon.com> <200910070051.n970pajx012236@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <20091007123732.GA84700@torus.slightlystrange.org> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:35:50 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Daniel Bye , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Updating the ports collection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:35:53 -0000 2009/10/7 Daniel Bye > On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:07:07PM -0400, Chris Hill wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Olivier Nicole wrote: > > > > >Hi Chris, > > > > > >>The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for > > >>obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and > sysinstall. > > >> > > >>Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but > > >>only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods. > > >> > > >>Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to > > >>obtain it? > > > > > >I cannot speak for postsnap, but for cvsup: > > > > csup works (almost?) the same as cvsup, and is in the base system > > nowadays. I used to install cvsup, but now I only install fastest_cvsup; > > it's just a utility to find the fastest server for you at the moment. > > > > >Some may correct me, but I use a file that contains: > > > > > >*default tag=. > > >*default host=cvsup2.jp.FreeBSD.org > > >*default base=/var/db > > >*default prefix=/usr > > >*default release=cvs > > >*default delete use-rel-suffix > > >*default compress > > >ports-all > > > > I do the same, and run csup as: > > > > csup -g -h `/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup -Q -c us` /etc/supfile.ports > > You can set > > SUPHOST= `/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup -Q -c us` > SUPFLAGS= -g > > in /etc/make.conf and save yourself some typing. > > Dan > you > -- > Daniel Bye > _ > ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) > - against HTML, vCards and X > - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ > the above way is good but this is the simplest as it requires no additional programs or editing csup -h cvsup.FreeBSD.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile I use the following as its a bit faster csup -h cvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile you can obviously insert your own country code From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 14:35:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66171065670 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A9E8FC0A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:35:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4D92500D; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:35:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n97EZs1v001751; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:35:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:35:54 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Philip Jocks Message-Id: <20091007163554.8dbced81.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <9CC197E2-43F9-4583-9DE6-EDC51E1618F0@netzkommune.de> References: <9CC197E2-43F9-4583-9DE6-EDC51E1618F0@netzkommune.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dump_snapshot file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:35:58 -0000 On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:48:19 +0200, Philip Jocks wrote: > Hi, > > I had a file /usr/.snap/dump_snapshot being about 15GB in size, which > I removed because the partition was filling up. > The file's date was always rather current, so I'm wondering, what it > was for? Maybe this file came from a background fsck? I noticed this on one of my former systems that had background_fsck_enable="YES" and it ran once, but I changed the setting to ="NO". The file in question was present on the file systems checked. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 14:39:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78ACF1065692 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C038FC1B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so3915876bwz.43 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:39:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=yFrQSooQgJ1uQnGr+UreDg5iFS+jcZsT2OLze120Yag=; b=WgLRN30BewIUQixOhk3oJgt7lyd30VjuRIl3iNf/7PgwhoGNbmgDncSTeBoTrduMSM zEAepwsQ2r7x4lA9r18Fex26N+nS8JyIReJL+SUXBwC1j8niQuJ1Lo7lybqxlMKVU2Ed rBSE6+td5gydMlMz5yXE/HBa9vE86bkV0DMYk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=R00KAYbsoFAAp3QQ75yWWbiHMSet6BrodVYt3f4sy1AReJWy83m0SrzqNlPWljc/4p q5lRmZr0JEpuJG3jvuD3FDH+/HVfOUufwR78YsZfI71oIfJOnGmscag5vbIYyQY38I5b d6ilHNp9cidQD+vMFpe759no2esfPREz/wlfg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.179.97 with SMTP id c33mr310906hbg.157.1254926392441; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:39:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <19148.33986.629983.591360@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <874310.63278.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20091007094142.GA90993@osiris.chen.org.nz> <19148.33986.629983.591360@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:39:52 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Robert Huff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Chris Stankevitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jonathan Chen Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:39:54 -0000 2009/10/7 Robert Huff > > Jonathan Chen writes: > > > I just installed FreeBSD. After I installed it, I was surprised > > > to find only 26M of space on /. I used the auto-defaults during > > > the Disklabel portion of the install. > > > > > > [cstankevitz@crs-m6300 ~]$ df -h > > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > > /dev/ad4s1a 496M 430M 26M 94% / > > > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > > > /dev/ad4s1e 496M 14K 456M 0% /tmp > > > /dev/ad4s1f 113G 1.9G 102G 2% /usr > > > /dev/ad4s1d 2.9G 7.9M 2.6G 0% /var > > > > > > Q1: Is 26M free space on / after installing FreeBSD normal? > > > > > > > The amount used (ie: 430M) looks about right. On my > > FreeBSD-7.2-STABLE/amd64, running a GENERIC kernel with a minimal > > /etc, my / filesystem is using 443M. However, this has a > > /boot/kernel and a /boot/kernel.old, both of which chews up 210M > > each. > > Agreed. > Other minor suggestions to the OP: check the contents of /root, > and move anything large that can live elsewhere and create a > symlink. And somethings can just be deleted: if root uses > two or three times a year, then a large > cache is probably superfluous. > Look for any ".core" files, which can usually be deleted. > > It is my understanding that - providing /tmp is on a separate > partition - / should receive very little traffic, and the size > should stabilize quickly. > > > Robert Huff > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > if only we had zfs root as standard and none of this would be an issue. 8) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 14:42:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B522B1065672 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:42:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725E88FC16 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E76B1DBF4; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:42:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n97EgCOt001761; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:42:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:42:12 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Glen Barber Message-Id: <20091007164212.f7dff406.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310910070609r126fb880he201b9f2aa2d3f3f@mail.gmail.com> References: <496325.97096.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4ad871310910070609r126fb880he201b9f2aa2d3f3f@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Aflatoon Aflatooni , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Daily run reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:42:14 -0000 On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:09:51 +0000, Glen Barber wrote: > You should see these lines in /etc/crontab: > > # Perform daily/weekly/monthly maintenance. > 1 3 * * * root periodic daily > 15 4 * * 6 root periodic weekly > 30 5 1 * * root periodic monthly > > You can set the MAILTO environment variable in /etc/crontab to mail to > an alternate address if needed. Another way is to edit /etc/mail/aliases and forward mail to root to your preferred account, e. g. root: myuser Note that "recompiling" sendmail's files is neccessary, and sendmail needs to be restarted. It is explained at the top of Makefile in the /etc/mail directory. It's quite easy. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 15:11:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9CB1065694 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B099F8FC0A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:11:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8384A34D447; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:11:35 +0100 (BST) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:11:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200910071611.35468.david@vizion2000.net> Subject: Apache server imap.so ssl_once_only_init error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:11:52 -0000 Hi Would anyone be willing to help me out of my misery - I need to solcve this one: Thanks in advance David Apache22 server does not start httpd-error.log reads: [Wed Oct 07 16:03:17 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate is a CA certificate (BasicConstraints: CA == TRUE !?) [Wed Oct 07 16:03:18 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate is a CA certificate (BasicConstraints: CA == TRUE !?) /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined symbol "ssl_onceonlyinit" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 15:30:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6F41065672 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2D78FC21 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:30:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961753CF6C; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:30:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n97FUMbQ001888; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:30:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:30:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: krad Message-Id: <20091007173022.f914bdc0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <874310.63278.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20091007094142.GA90993@osiris.chen.org.nz> <19148.33986.629983.591360@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Chris Stankevitz , Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jonathan Chen Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:30:25 -0000 On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:39:52 +0100, krad wrote: > if only we had zfs root as standard and none of this would be an issue. 8) You can create one big / partition even on UFS. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 15:30:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4518E1065698 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:30:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout019.mac.com (asmtpout019.mac.com [17.148.16.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B6E8FC14 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:30:30 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from [10.152.145.197] (72-165-115-225.dia.static.qwest.net [72.165.115.225]) by asmtp019.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KR500AEDHQ9NR60@asmtp019.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: David Southwell In-reply-to: <200910071611.35468.david@vizion2000.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:30:09 -0700 References: <200910071611.35468.david@vizion2000.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache server imap.so ssl_once_only_init error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:30:31 -0000 Hi-- On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:11 AM, David Southwell wrote: > [Wed Oct 07 16:03:17 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate is a CA > certificate > (BasicConstraints: CA == TRUE !?) > [Wed Oct 07 16:03:18 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate is a CA > certificate > (BasicConstraints: CA == TRUE !?) > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined > symbol > "ssl_onceonlyinit" At a guess, you are trying to use self-signed certificates, and you generated a CA certificate to sign them, but are trying to use that CA cert directly instead of creating a new x.509 keypair, CSR, and signing that with your CA cert or have a Verisign, enTrust, openca.org, etc. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 15:58:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CF81065670 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187098FC18 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B5EB434D419; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:58:28 +0100 (BST) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: Markiyan Kushnir Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:58:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <200910071611.35468.david@vizion2000.net> <4ACCB534.6070500@lohika.com> In-Reply-To: <4ACCB534.6070500@lohika.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200910071658.28543.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache server imap.so ssl_once_only_init error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:58:45 -0000 > Chuck Swiger wrote: > > Hi-- > > > > On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:11 AM, David Southwell wrote: > >> [Wed Oct 07 16:03:17 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate is a CA > >> certificate > >> (BasicConstraints: CA =3D=3D TRUE !?) > >> [Wed Oct 07 16:03:18 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate is a CA > >> certificate > >> (BasicConstraints: CA =3D=3D TRUE !?) > >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined > >> symbol > >> "ssl_onceonlyinit" > > > > At a guess, you are trying to use self-signed certificates, and you > > generated a CA certificate to sign them, but are trying to use that CA > > cert directly instead of creating a new x.509 keypair, CSR, and signing > > that with your CA cert or have a Verisign, enTrust, openca.org, etc. > > > > Regards, >=20 > I would guess that the imap.so symbol issue is what is causing Apache to > die... >=20 > The certificate-related messages are warnings and should not make it fata= l. >=20 > Markiyan. >=20 I am pretty sure that is the case. The imap issue was around before I crea= ted=20 the certificates. Here is a longer extract from the httpd-error.log /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined symbol= =20 "ssl_onceonlyinit" [Wed Oct 07 13:58:39 2009] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured [hi= nt:=20 SSLSessionCache] [Wed Oct 07 13:58:40 2009] [warn] module php5_module is already loaded,=20 skipping /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined symbol= =20 "ssl_onceonlyinit" /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined symbol= =20 "ssl_onceonlyinit" /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined symbol= =20 "ssl_onceonlyinit" /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined symbol= =20 "ssl_onceonlyinit" /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined symbol= =20 "ssl_onceonlyinit" /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined symbol= =20 "ssl_onceonlyinit" [Wed Oct 07 14:24:01 2009] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured [hi= nt:=20 SSLSessionCache] /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined symbol= =20 "ssl_onceonlyinit" [Wed Oct 07 14:28:32 2009] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured [hi= nt:=20 SSLSessionCache] /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined symbol= =20 "ssl_onceonlyinit" Checked [Wed Oct 07 14:29:12 2009] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured [hi= nt:=20 SSLSessionCache] /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined symbol= =20 "ssl_onceonlyinit" [Wed Oct 07 15:54:47 2009] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured [hi= nt:=20 SSLSessionCache] /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined symbol= =20 "ssl_onceonlyinit" [Wed Oct 07 16:03:17 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate is a CA certificat= e=20 (BasicConstraints: CA =3D=3D TRUE !?) [Wed Oct 07 16:03:18 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate is a CA certificat= e=20 (BasicConstraints: CA =3D=3D TRUE !?) /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined symbol= =20 "ssl_onceonlyinit" =46rom this you can see the Session Cache not figured problem went away aft= er I=20 created the certs but I am stioll left with the imap.so proble. which seems= to=20 be the cause of the fatal failure. Dpoes anyone know how to fix that? David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 16:06:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE8E1065676 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:06:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkushnir@lohika.com) Received: from sbox.lohika.com (sbox.lohika.com [217.9.0.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF848FC14 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:06:17 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,519,1249246800"; d="scan'208";a="3078610" Received: from unknown (HELO dekker.lohika.com) ([172.20.100.30]) by sbox-local.lohika.com with ESMTP; 07 Oct 2009 18:36:05 +0300 Received: from emkushnir.lv.lohika.com ([172.22.60.77]) (authenticated bits=0) by dekker.lohika.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n97FbdER030215 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:37:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from mkushnir@lohika.com) Message-ID: <4ACCB534.6070500@lohika.com> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:35:16 +0300 From: Markiyan Kushnir User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080311) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <200910071611.35468.david@vizion2000.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9872/Wed Oct 7 10:09:25 2009 on dekker.lohika.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: David Southwell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache server imap.so ssl_once_only_init error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:06:19 -0000 I would guess that the imap.so symbol issue is what is causing Apache to die... The certificate-related messages are warnings and should not make it fatal. Markiyan. Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi-- > > On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:11 AM, David Southwell wrote: >> [Wed Oct 07 16:03:17 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate is a CA >> certificate >> (BasicConstraints: CA == TRUE !?) >> [Wed Oct 07 16:03:18 2009] [warn] RSA server certificate is a CA >> certificate >> (BasicConstraints: CA == TRUE !?) >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: Undefined >> symbol >> "ssl_onceonlyinit" > > At a guess, you are trying to use self-signed certificates, and you > generated a CA certificate to sign them, but are trying to use that CA > cert directly instead of creating a new x.509 keypair, CSR, and signing > that with your CA cert or have a Verisign, enTrust, openca.org, etc. > > Regards, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 16:15:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F65D1065679 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:15:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E33D8FC28 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n97GFBFc019136; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:15:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n97GFBJE019133; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:15:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 10:15:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20091007164212.f7dff406.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <496325.97096.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4ad871310910070609r126fb880he201b9f2aa2d3f3f@mail.gmail.com> <20091007164212.f7dff406.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:15:11 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Aflatoon Aflatooni , Glen Barber , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Daily run reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:15:15 -0000 On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:09:51 +0000, Glen Barber wrote: >> You should see these lines in /etc/crontab: >> >> # Perform daily/weekly/monthly maintenance. >> 1 3 * * * root periodic daily >> 15 4 * * 6 root periodic weekly >> 30 5 1 * * root periodic monthly >> >> You can set the MAILTO environment variable in /etc/crontab to mail to >> an alternate address if needed. > > Another way is to edit /etc/mail/aliases and forward mail > to root to your preferred account, e. g. > > root: myuser > > Note that "recompiling" sendmail's files is neccessary, To be more precise, rebuilding the aliases file. > and sendmail needs to be restarted. It is explained at the top of > Makefile in the /etc/mail directory. It's quite easy. :-) But 'newaliases' is easier yet. Is restarting sendmail after newaliases really necessary? I change aliases so rarely I've never really noticed. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 16:19:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21621065670 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:19:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3288FC26 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Oct 2009 12:19:40 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QFP52595; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-227.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.227]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Oct 2009 12:19:22 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19148.49033.927239.566075@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:19:21 -0400 To: David Southwell In-Reply-To: <200910071658.28543.david@vizion2000.net> References: <200910071611.35468.david@vizion2000.net> <4ACCB534.6070500@lohika.com> <200910071658.28543.david@vizion2000.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Markiyan Kushnir , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache server imap.so ssl_once_only_init error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:19:41 -0000 David Southwell writes: > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: > Undefined symbol "ssl_onceonlyinit" I look at this and ask (knowing very little about either) "is this a problem with Apache, or a problem with PHP?". Robert huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 16:36:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95903106568B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:36:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564928FC19 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 33E6C34D419; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:36:01 +0100 (BST) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: Robert Huff Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:36:01 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <200910071611.35468.david@vizion2000.net> <200910071658.28543.david@vizion2000.net> <19148.49033.927239.566075@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <19148.49033.927239.566075@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200910071736.01131.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: Markiyan Kushnir , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache server imap.so ssl_once_only_init error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:36:17 -0000 > David Southwell writes: > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: > > Undefined symbol "ssl_onceonlyinit" > > I look at this and ask (knowing very little about either) "is > this a problem with Apache, or a problem with PHP?". > > > Robert huff > I wish I darn well knew Right now I am doing a portupgrade -frR mail/php5-imap in the hope that might sort it -- but there is no intelligence behind the initiative David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 16:40:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636F41065679 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1910C8FC18 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MvZXW-0004lm-2X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:38:58 +0200 Received: from pool-71-166-130-116.washdc.east.verizon.net ([71.166.130.116]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:38:58 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-71-166-130-116.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:38:58 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:39:19 -0400 Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <200910071611.35468.david@vizion2000.net> <4ACCB534.6070500@lohika.com> <200910071658.28543.david@vizion2000.net> <19148.49033.927239.566075@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-166-130-116.washdc.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: Apache server imap.so ssl_once_only_init error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:40:33 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > > David Southwell writes: > >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: >> Undefined symbol "ssl_onceonlyinit" > > I look at this and ask (knowing very little about either) "is > this a problem with Apache, or a problem with PHP?". > > Easy enough to see - comment out the imap.so module in /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini and see if Apache will start. If it does the problem is the imap module. A more generic way to drive this wedge is to temporarily comment out the LoadModule php5_module line from httpd.conf. If it starts without this module it isn't Apache. Some PHP modules have dependencies in that they need the other modules loaded before they load. Try moving the imap.so line in extensions.ini to the bottom of the file so all the other crypt modules such as openssl, hash, mcrypt, etc are loaded first. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 16:42:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB7110656A3 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C09F8FC17 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so4951388fxm.36 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:42:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4jHG6Hhlj8/JBeokXGqDk/0IS6FW2sa/EsVUotp1rb4=; b=ewjHA5aC+WDdygAZaae/0ezQ7adrLatYLe4zYnAi2rgN/wtWcbCJ2z5sCS5kxPA6MF 9Q7H64xuiVic5gZesPrz/f9Wwn8GEho4AUiGwjNUiUoKvH367eoY6yvqGicY2t+Hu2bf kXSoYxzjvwIxWXFjqHzBDOfhgzS6d1atmjf0s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DgSgMHtcUZfqjBle9iUX928pX2zQgTrWRZVDAL+e8LTO5rOacsEEpfZGeDuy67tKnt 15MF4qKZnbmNtXt0iCMpsDBDqCqJM5kCHStCrFiJyjwgol85NasKbpxfW5NNttebbU6N X7q7cShyEJ8U33JPhccnHH9bPTDY9rCrL0dNs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.14.22 with SMTP id e22mr59556faa.42.1254933762062; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:42:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <496325.97096.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4ad871310910070609r126fb880he201b9f2aa2d3f3f@mail.gmail.com> <20091007164212.f7dff406.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:42:41 +0000 Message-ID: <4ad871310910070942u71a613bar99bf460055808561@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Daily run reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:42:45 -0000 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Polytropon wrote: > >> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:09:51 +0000, Glen Barber >> wrote: >>> >>> You should see these lines in /etc/crontab: >>> >>> # Perform daily/weekly/monthly maintenance. >>> 1 =A0 =A0 =A0 3 =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 r= oot =A0 =A0periodic daily >>> 15 =A0 =A0 =A04 =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 6 =A0 =A0 =A0 r= oot =A0 =A0periodic weekly >>> 30 =A0 =A0 =A05 =A0 =A0 =A0 1 =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 r= oot =A0 =A0periodic monthly >>> >>> You can set the MAILTO environment variable in /etc/crontab to mail to >>> an alternate address if needed. >> >> Another way is to edit /etc/mail/aliases and forward mail >> to root to your preferred account, e. g. >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0root: myuser >> >> Note that "recompiling" sendmail's files is neccessary, > > To be more precise, rebuilding the aliases file. > >> and sendmail needs to be restarted. It is explained at the top of Makefi= le >> in the /etc/mail directory. It's quite easy. :-) > > But 'newaliases' is easier yet. =A0Is restarting sendmail after newaliase= s > really necessary? =A0I change aliases so rarely I've never really noticed= . > No, you do not need to restart sendmail with newaliases(1). --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 17:01:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B81E1065692 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6238FC25 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9673CF53; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:01:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n97H1MYB007747; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:01:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:01:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Glen Barber Message-Id: <20091007190122.a091804b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310910070942u71a613bar99bf460055808561@mail.gmail.com> References: <496325.97096.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4ad871310910070609r126fb880he201b9f2aa2d3f3f@mail.gmail.com> <20091007164212.f7dff406.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310910070942u71a613bar99bf460055808561@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Daily run reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:01:25 -0000 On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:42:41 +0000, Glen Barber wrote: > No, you do not need to restart sendmail with newaliases(1). True. According to "man newaliases", Newaliases is identical to ``sendmail -bi''. and per "man sendmail", -bi Initialize the alias database. which says nothing about sendmail being restarted. Good to know! :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 16:58:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BDE106568F for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:58:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixmania@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f226.google.com (mail-bw0-f226.google.com [209.85.218.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3611D8FC16 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz26 with SMTP id 26so4168884bwz.36 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:58:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=j2vaA2I7jVXFW/FurywjPZ3uQb/PAl1HkITeG1sJEjo=; b=O1kFgo2m1GYm4JcYgl/a5FqS3qKEz2bkIDnCWY6VThJVqQU/2zqeY3VjLT/mDB3sCQ 6BePDaHjbG+67cTO1ImwHAYvdOsSwTYIAsW7w/XbIJmqZtdeZptWsoJZ1sqUvhnWd5Lu 3NS7nNthLfISG8HouQbNsy8ZTfFsWa1LjQmik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WbLXkyOX+ZgI69RW754amIlmGoASci9AzyT8NzNHLdLyNU8BUXSdNwFdebhZsr0K1T +XaTreuS/3ZGfH06yYuUqLalp0SJfLKGg4az6S1GXw6FKo73XO0WvJ8p/h5I06DME6uk mrNRVD2LmYle6KjccWwNOfXyvuL2IeIn22ec8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.185.77 with SMTP id b13mr7198hbh.158.1254932735372; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:25:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <747dc8f30910061024h5346b25evd27369955f9d6768@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930110508.GA50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> <20091001111417.GF50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001112323.GA26407@droso.net> <20091001114546.GH50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001213656.GA14925@lonesome.com> <20091002133231.GA17567@hades.panopticon> <747dc8f30910061024h5346b25evd27369955f9d6768@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:25:35 -0300 Message-ID: From: "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" To: Renato Botelho Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:01:33 +0000 Cc: Albert Shih , ports@freebsd.org, Dmitry Marakasov , Mark Linimon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ion-general@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:58:28 -0000 2009/10/6 Renato Botelho : > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Dmitry Marakasov wrot= e: >> * Mark Linimon (linimon@lonesome.com) wrote: >> >>> The author orginally contacted us with a legal threat because we were >>> not in compliance with the 28-day clause. =A0A long, acrimonious disucs= sion >>> ensued. =A0In that discussion, the author was asked "if we agree to mee= t >>> that condition going forward, would you guarantee that this would remov= e >>> any further legal threat?" and he said yes ... >>> >>> for now. >>> >>> But that he reserved the right to change his mind later. >>> >>> *depending* on what we did or did not do in the future -- not just in >>> adhering to the *existing clauses* like the "significant" clause or >>> "renamed" clause -- both of which he mentioned would be part of any >>> lawsuit. >>> >>> Legally indefensible? =A0Of course. =A0Would that prevent a lawsuit bei= ng >>> filed? =A0No. =A0Anyone can sue anyone for anything. >> >> Well, if you insist I of course won't commit it. But the whole thing >> disappoints me greately, cause I was pretty sure at least FreeBSD >> developers won't be affected by a mere FUD. Do you honestly think >> the probability of Tuomo suing us is higher of, say, me suing, well, >> us? =A0And that anything will change by us not providing a port we >> have absolutely totally utterly 100% right to provide? =A0That is >> just silly. >> >> The port from now on is available here (removed from people.freebsd.org)= : >> http://mirror.amdmi3.ru/ports/ion3-20090110.port.tar > > You can start a fork of it, change its name, its license, and keep it as > a separate project... people will use the same software with another > name. You can fork the code, rename it, whathever, but you can NOT change the license without explicit permission from the original copyright owner. That would be legally considered theft! > Everybody will be happy and we won't have a Tuomo's software inside > ports collection again. It would be Tuomo's software anyway, regardless what you renamed it to, and his ownership would still prevail. Feel free to dislike his behavior but keep compliant to his rights unless you are whiling to face a lawsuit. --=20 My preferred quotation of Robert Louis Stevenson is "You cannot make an omelette without breaking eggs". Not because I like the omelettes, but because I like the sound of eggs being broken. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 17:12:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1400B1065694 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:12:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E178FC20 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5205C34D419; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:11:44 +0100 (BST) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, nightrecon@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:11:44 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <200910071611.35468.david@vizion2000.net> <19148.49033.927239.566075@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200910071811.44265.david@vizion2000.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Apache server imap.so ssl_once_only_init error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:12:01 -0000 > Robert Huff wrote: > > David Southwell writes: > >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: > >> Undefined symbol "ssl_onceonlyinit" > > > > I look at this and ask (knowing very little about either) "is > > this a problem with Apache, or a problem with PHP?". > > Easy enough to see - comment out the imap.so module in > /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini and see if Apache will start. If it does > the problem is the imap module. A more generic way to drive this wedge is > to temporarily comment out the LoadModule php5_module line from > httpd.conf. > > If it starts without this module it isn't Apache. Some PHP modules have > dependencies in that they need the other modules loaded before they load. > Try moving the imap.so line in extensions.ini to the bottom of the file so > all the other crypt modules such as openssl, hash, mcrypt, etc are loaded > first. > > -Mike > > > Mike you are right on the ball. When I comment out the imap.so line in extensions.ini the server starts up normally. So now we have the culprit. That is after doing a portupgrade -frR mail/php5-imap. The question is where do I go from here?? Thank you David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 17:42:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253D910656A7 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DA38FC21 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n97HgQXG002323 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:42:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n97HgPTJ002322 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:42:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:42:25 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091007174225.GA2297@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <1d7089c40910060405k3ac6f53bx252ade8183f1f431@mail.gmail.com> <20091006112831.GA10473@marge.bs.l> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091006112831.GA10473@marge.bs.l> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: windoz, how do i install it last X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:42:51 -0000 On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 01:28:31PM +0200, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > Hi, > > Am Dienstag, 06. Okt 2009, 07:05:23 -0400 schrieb Henry Olyer: > > So I have a FreeBSD system. > > Is their a way to install windoz? Say, XP-pro? Or whatever... > > Replace or dual boot? The standard FreeBSD boot manager offers > a choice which of the slices 1-4 you want to boot from. Just > install #*@%& into the first slice and FreeBSD into the second. You weren't listening. The OP said FreeBSD is already in the first slice and wants to know if MS-Win can be installed in a later slice - most presumably so it will not be necessary to reinstall the FreeBSD. ////jerry > > Bertram > > -- > Bertram Scharpf > Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany > http://www.bertram-scharpf.de > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 18:19:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270071065695 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from JHALL@SOCKET.NET) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5a.socket.net [216.106.26.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6318FC20 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.129.40.201] (216.106.12.14.reverse.socket.net [216.106.12.14]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E351160657 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:19:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <99D3E0B6-09CA-453C-A964-AA95D4A6B35C@SOCKET.NET> From: Jay Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:19:34 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: rsync include and exclude X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:19:36 -0000 Ladies and Gentlemen, I am using rsync to backup some information and I am having some problem with including and excluding directories. I want to include everything in the user's mail directory and everything in the user's documents directory. Everything else should be excluded. And, it is possible to have multiple users on a single computer. Following is what I am using for my include/exclude patterns. + /Users/*/Library/Mail/ + /Users/*/Documents/ - /Users/*/Documents/* - /Users/*/Library/* This gives me close to the desired result. However, there are some extra files included which I do not need to backup which are stored in /Users/username directory. If I add -/Users/*, no files are backed up. After reading the man pages and several examples, I thought I had a handle on this. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 18:25:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4201106568B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:25:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-140.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-140.bluehost.com [67.222.39.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8364F8FC22 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27865 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 18:25:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 18:25:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Fb8gjHD0Vxsdh2dYOfEExMvLlvRO31IM7mfKAxBa3neAEjsmAYgxlxYJ3pfcqIPq7ORYYEa0B6SwuLkPESR/PF3YYlaAixCM0PRgWaXHd86U9ssuxpGvyeA+2vSnr3Mg; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MvbCG-0006TM-BD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:25:08 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:17:46 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:17:46 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091007181746.GA18540@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <874310.63278.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874310.63278.qm@web52906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:25:09 -0000 --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 11:28:00PM -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote: >=20 > Q2: Will I be able to install GNOME, Firefox, download 30 MB of files, > and place them on my GNOME dekstop? (I believe the desktop is located > at /home/cstankevitz/.desktop aka on the root partition where there is > only 26M of free space) Are you sure your home directory is at /home? What's the result of `ls -l /home`? If it looks something like this: lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8 Sep 7 09:55 /home -> usr/home =2E . . everything should be fine. FreeBSD places the home directory in /usr by default, so instead of /home it's /usr/home, and creates a symlink from /home to /usr/home for the sake of convenience. Are you sure that isn't what happened? --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrM20oACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWAswCg76sQ8XHQEqd3aNe5zxKas/N+ tpQAoMt4VjXgwlCMsgzX/tAd3Ji+xVwh =qzk6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 18:50:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C531065670 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-151.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-151.bluehost.com [67.222.39.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 10FAB8FC1B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8323 invoked by uid 0); 7 Oct 2009 18:50:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2009 18:50:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=mSbr/8QE6PMX0iv0F4ueUFuiy43NRe9k3JC832Nvq2NQMcLYNqoDr5WtMpNBG5XsZgTFOO6X+dXLZgFPIeQZ+yKw8Km75LkA2uEHKvRKkvCKINCYsUSQNObLfYRpIkXA; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mvbaq-0003Qz-9H; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:50:32 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:43:10 -0600 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:43:10 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091007184310.GC19063@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930110508.GA50565@hades.panopticon> <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> <20091001111417.GF50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001112323.GA26407@droso.net> <20091001114546.GH50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001213656.GA14925@lonesome.com> <20091002133231.GA17567@hades.panopticon> <747dc8f30910061024h5346b25evd27369955f9d6768@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5QAgd0e35j3NYeGe" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:50:33 -0000 --5QAgd0e35j3NYeGe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 01:25:35PM -0300, Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote: >=20 > You can fork the code, rename it, whathever, but you can NOT change > the license without explicit permission from the original copyright > owner. That would be legally considered theft! Incorrect. It would be legally considered copyright infringement. Copyright law is not property law, and both different laws *and* different terms apply. "Theft" is not a term legally applied to copyright infringement -- at least, in any jurisdiction of which I'm even vaguely aware of the state of copyright law. "That would be legally considered copyright infringement!" There. I fixed it for you. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --5QAgd0e35j3NYeGe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrM4T4ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVAxgCffY8SrlLVIY3ie95woaWkmzBV We0Anja1cm8A3JcGL9G8M3e0SrF2dXya =IlO5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5QAgd0e35j3NYeGe-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 19:03:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9ACC1065697 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D8B8FC21 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:03:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Mvbmv-000301-RG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:03:01 +0200 Received: from pool-71-166-130-116.washdc.east.verizon.net ([71.166.130.116]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:03:01 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-71-166-130-116.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:03:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:03:21 -0400 Lines: 78 Message-ID: References: <200910071611.35468.david@vizion2000.net> <19148.49033.927239.566075@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200910071811.44265.david@vizion2000.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-166-130-116.washdc.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: Apache server imap.so ssl_once_only_init error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:03:04 -0000 David Southwell wrote: >> Robert Huff wrote: >> > David Southwell writes: >> >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: >> >> Undefined symbol "ssl_onceonlyinit" >> > >> > I look at this and ask (knowing very little about either) "is >> > this a problem with Apache, or a problem with PHP?". >> >> Easy enough to see - comment out the imap.so module in >> /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini and see if Apache will start. If it >> does the problem is the imap module. A more generic way to drive this >> wedge is >> to temporarily comment out the LoadModule php5_module line from >> httpd.conf. >> >> If it starts without this module it isn't Apache. Some PHP modules have >> dependencies in that they need the other modules loaded before they load. >> Try moving the imap.so line in extensions.ini to the bottom of the file >> so all the other crypt modules such as openssl, hash, mcrypt, etc are >> loaded first. >> >> -Mike >> >> >> > Mike you are right on the ball. > > When I comment out the imap.so line in extensions.ini the server starts up > normally. So now we have the culprit. That is after doing a portupgrade > -frR mail/php5-imap. > > The question is where do I go from here?? Hrmmm. Probably need to look into more details. I am running Apache- event-2.2.13 here with PHP5-5.2.11 and extensions-5.2.11, with PHP running as FastCGI via the apache module mod_fcgid instead of mod_php. I presume you are just doing the normal mod_php method. Upon thinking about it a little more, I'm guessing that when you tried relocating the extension=imap.so to the bottom of extensions.ini it had no effect. Sometimes this is an easy and quick answer when the problem is just load order. Another to consider is if you really do not require the imap module just leave it commented out, although this is not elegant as it does not attack the root source of the problem. What I'm thinking (after looking at the actual error message again) is this is a build-time problem and not runtime. I believe that these kinds of symbol errors arise mostly from libraries being mismatched at build time. To elaborate a little, I'm wondering if when you built mod_php at one point in time and then built the php5-extensions at a later time if they were not slightly different versions. Also, IIRC there was once a problem with the imap module in that it could not be used with the recode and yaz modules. I have the recode module present so I doubt it is a problem, but do not use the yaz module. Might look and see about yaz. I suspect the core of the problem is that mod_php and the extensions are slightly out of sync with one another. A very sloppy thing to do would be to just remove all the PHP stuff, including mod_php, update the ports tree fresh and reinstall all of it at one time together. This may not be wise on a production server however, as this will entail downtime. As I said - "sloppy, scattergun approach". I have done this a time or two, but don't really like doing it. YMMV If mod_php and the extensions were built at different times, with maybe a ports tree update in between, they may need to be all recompiled so they all get linked correctly. -Mike P.S. - And the biggest assumption of all I'm making is that Apache was built with SSL support in the first place. A variable which should be eliminated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 19:19:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66EDD1065676 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209718FC08 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:19:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Mvc3E-0003oK-57 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:19:52 +0200 Received: from pool-71-166-130-116.washdc.east.verizon.net ([71.166.130.116]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:19:52 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-71-166-130-116.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:19:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:20:11 -0400 Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <200910071611.35468.david@vizion2000.net> <19148.49033.927239.566075@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200910071811.44265.david@vizion2000.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-166-130-116.washdc.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: Apache server imap.so ssl_once_only_init error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:19:53 -0000 Michael Powell wrote: > David Southwell wrote: > >>> Robert Huff wrote: >>> > David Southwell writes: >>> >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: >>> >> Undefined symbol "ssl_onceonlyinit" Oh - forgot - this is what an ldd of my imap.so looks like on 7.2: testbed# pwd /usr/local/lib/php/20060613 testbed# ldd /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so: libssl.so.5 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.5 (0x281a2000) libcrypto.so.5 => /lib/libcrypto.so.5 (0x28300000) libc-client4.so.9 => /usr/local/lib/libc-client4.so.9 (0x28458000) libcrypt.so.4 => /lib/libcrypt.so.4 (0x281e3000) libpam.so.4 => /usr/lib/libpam.so.4 (0x28550000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x28089000) For comparative purposes. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 19:22:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705C11065670 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f184.google.com (mail-yx0-f184.google.com [209.85.210.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCA08FC17 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe14 with SMTP id 14so7982512yxe.7 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:22:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=smFwqHk48kbBiG/x9I0qO3O2/p4O21+ymomaIyBtMmc=; b=Ri3qLjw6t4UEOyVwR/kI9HVENeiigrzxSfemuOI8soF1dZS8RPEGd8OU3dNUwPJqkp J6Z5DgjvRcHJ8LZBywTI8GaiwYqfCD6rXmutH7teSAldZf67LcBYDh0M2s2UrojKE6pv jY1C9KBrOyY5zg8nh2p9xnR+UhkhaW0yfG350= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Nii/Y+Cywd+r9ufgcsehVmHnDYNNEzbl58srCFU2u8M5+OPMml+zmdHGLrgXM4psBX BoKDkSqKXAvWjaDfGKmqZ4TRziDfY4EJ0Ggj/SJFFGN8Zw/2hVVGc+AQfa5/FJAIFo0K HABDdQlNu6XW8rVMANVYLpr3oJaOpDEybT+Tk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.28.9 with SMTP id f9mr187853agj.89.1254943373140; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:22:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:22:33 -0400 Message-ID: <26ddd1750910071222n3d2b82ebn72ae4c00ddeaa9a4@mail.gmail.com> To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Show bandwidth usage by IP address (through pf) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:22:54 -0000 Hello all, I have pf filtering traffic to our network. Is there any easy way to see the current bandwidth usage sorted by ip? Someone is using up almost 100% of total bandwidth and parsing "pfctl -ss -v" isn't getting me anywhere. - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 19:27:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A3A106568D for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:27:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838778FC19 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091007192717534.EVVO22999@hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com>; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:27:17 +0000 Received: from ammon.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n97JRGY3000696; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:27:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from ammon.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ammon.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n97JRHMB002680; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:27:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from djp@ammon.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by ammon.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n97JRHH7002679; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:27:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from djp) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:27:17 -0500 From: Doug Poland To: Maxim Khitrov Message-ID: <20091007192717.GA2150@polands.org> References: <26ddd1750910071222n3d2b82ebn72ae4c00ddeaa9a4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750910071222n3d2b82ebn72ae4c00ddeaa9a4@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Show bandwidth usage by IP address (through pf) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:27:18 -0000 On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 03:22:33PM -0400, Maxim Khitrov wrote: > Hello all, > > I have pf filtering traffic to our network. Is there any easy way to > see the current bandwidth usage sorted by ip? Someone is using up > almost 100% of total bandwidth and parsing "pfctl -ss -v" isn't > getting me anywhere. > sysutils/pftop is your friend :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 19:42:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0D31065670; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vinzstyle@free.fr) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (smtp5-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E238FC13; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10740D480DD; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:42:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lan1.localnet (router.vinzland.net [82.230.197.7]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF60D481F9; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:42:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Vinzstyle To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:42:15 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.29.6-desktop-2mnb; KDE/4.2.4; x86_64; ; ) References: <200910042041.32454.vinzstyle@free.fr> <2117530918-1254683459-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1616429688-@bda081.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <200910042133.12933.vinzstyle@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <200910042133.12933.vinzstyle@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200910072142.15416.vinzstyle@free.fr> Cc: jgimer@gmail.com, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Postfix doesn't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:42:27 -0000 Le dimanche 4 octobre 2009 21:33:12 Vinzstyle, vous avez =C3=A9crit : > Le dimanche 4 octobre 2009 21:09:05 jgimer@gmail.com, vous avez =C3=A9cri= t : > > What are the actual permissions on the lock file, not just the containi= ng > > directory? > > > > Josh > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vinzstyle > > Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:41:32 > > To: > > Subject: Postfix doesn't start > > > > Hi, > > > > I installed Postfix with PCRE support from the ports collection, but I > > get this error when I try to start it : > > > > Oct 4 20:22:09 mail postfix/postfix-script[47114]: starting the Postfix > > mail system > > Oct 4 20:22:09 mail postfix/master[47115]: fatal: open lock file > > /var/db/postfix/master.lock: cannot open file: Permission denied > > > > [root@mail /]# ls -ld /var/db/postfix/ > > drwx------ 2 postfix wheel 512 Oct 4 20:16 /var/db/postfix/ > > > > The "mail_owner" directive is set to "postfix" in main.cf > > > > Is there some things to set up after the "make install" ? Did I miss > > something ? > > > > I'm running FreeBSD-7.2-RELEASE, and Postfix(-2.5.6,1) is started inside > > a jail. > > > > Thanks for your help :) > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > The file isn't created by "make install". If I create it with permissions > 666 and postfix as owner, I get the same error message... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi, sorry, it was my fault :) Permissions were 750 on a parent directory... Thanks for your help anyway :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 19:52:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF20010656A3 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:52:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599728FC0C for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n97JqViG023802; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:52:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B2673C33A; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:52:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEE53C363; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:52:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:52:25 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:52:02 -0500 Message-ID: <8552_1254945146_4ACCF17A_8552_407_3_70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCED09@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750910071222n3d2b82ebn72ae4c00ddeaa9a4@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Show bandwidth usage by IP address (through pf) Thread-Index: AcpHg6nk2eOKgOgSQw+nKdxuv4bubAAA9JRA References: <26ddd1750910071222n3d2b82ebn72ae4c00ddeaa9a4@mail.gmail.com> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "Maxim Khitrov" , "Free BSD Questions list" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2009 19:52:25.0263 (UTC) FILETIME=[B13443F0:01CA4787] Cc: Subject: RE: Show bandwidth usage by IP address (through pf) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:52:47 -0000 I use "nTop" for this, but I'm sure there are other ways. I'm not that familiar with pf so can't help much there. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Maxim Khitrov Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:23 PM To: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Show bandwidth usage by IP address (through pf) Hello all, I have pf filtering traffic to our network. Is there any easy way to see the current bandwidth usage sorted by ip? Someone is using up almost 100% of total bandwidth and parsing "pfctl -ss -v" isn't getting me anywhere. - Max _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 20:02:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24480106568B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:02:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967C78FC0C for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:02:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so4201260bwz.43 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:02:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=09vfGWe/vjwv16gwoPqQda/U3zH/AbRtl4VjcPuPSWk=; b=wDGJG43lPF10nEZLM3DxeI47XoLfAXEafjxKjBIosrmoY0Vho+g63krr2Ctepe93uE 4wAY7CDBYT+IShKh9J4xDrsM+QNZXM6lkPjxG3vPateoiFdE5eqSJN+EPsHzACy6PmgF QRyx3uS8OY4FrJai6wtUIC3Ce86DQY+N5IiI4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=G/tMwxnTNxjhqgtMbFhgDXfCTla/0JqnfC7ik0xJ+LFL91mmUZ4qwJZCEtzvixen8j C6OaguJMPS8e4VJYB9UMAiUQOFLRN8FGM6sCX+ACgtElyx47KvrpX0q1bTfGlt/WGh8i h5+SjdcJXLjdrfhDajmjng5whol/x+walQVwc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.142.148 with SMTP id g20mr31140hba.34.1254945730980; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:02:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <99D3E0B6-09CA-453C-A964-AA95D4A6B35C@SOCKET.NET> References: <99D3E0B6-09CA-453C-A964-AA95D4A6B35C@SOCKET.NET> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:02:10 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Jay Hall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rsync include and exclude X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:02:13 -0000 2009/10/7 Jay Hall > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > I am using rsync to backup some information and I am having some problem > with including and excluding directories. > > I want to include everything in the user's mail directory and everything in > the user's documents directory. Everything else should be excluded. And, > it is possible to have multiple users on a single computer. > > Following is what I am using for my include/exclude patterns. > > + /Users/*/Library/Mail/ > + /Users/*/Documents/ > - /Users/*/Documents/* > - /Users/*/Library/* > > This gives me close to the desired result. However, there are some extra > files included which I do not need to backup which are stored in > /Users/username directory. > > If I add -/Users/*, no files are backed up. > > After reading the man pages and several examples, I thought I had a handle > on this. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > Jay > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > try adding this line to the top + /Users/* then this to the bottom - /Users/*/* I use lists like this at work a lot and you have to be careful. The ordering of the rules is very important. The common on for people to get wrong is the mysql rules. We generally dont copy the binary db files as they would never be consistent, so we dump the db else where and exclude the files. Except we need to capture the my.cnf file. The following ruleset does it + /var/db/mysql + /var/db/mysql/my.cnf - /var/db/mysql/** If you deviate from this things dont tend to work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 20:08:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5401065672 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6088FC08 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n97K8Tul019971; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:08:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n97K8T4d019968; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:08:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:08:29 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Philip Jocks In-Reply-To: <28606D03-C96E-47BA-A448-011E1A7F8F75@netzkommune.de> Message-ID: References: <9CC197E2-43F9-4583-9DE6-EDC51E1618F0@netzkommune.de> <28606D03-C96E-47BA-A448-011E1A7F8F75@netzkommune.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:08:29 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dump_snapshot file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:08:31 -0000 On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Philip Jocks wrote: > Am 07.10.2009 um 15:49 schrieb Warren Block: > >> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Philip Jocks wrote: >> >>> I had a file /usr/.snap/dump_snapshot being about 15GB in size, which I >>> removed because the partition was filling up. >>> The file's date was always rather current, so I'm wondering, what it was >>> for? >>> I did do a level 0 dump with -0 and -Lau parameters a few weeks ago and >>> always do dumps on other boxes, but never saw a file in the .snap >>> directory growing. For the other partitions, there are no such files, >>> that's why I'm wondering. >>> Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me. >> >> man -P 'less +/-L' dump >> >> explains it a bit. The snapshot file is supposed to go away after dump >> completes, but in your case dump died or was killed before it unlinked the >> file. > > Yes, but when there's no currently running dump process, should that file be > growing or updated? Not unless something else is creating a snapshot (mksnap_ffs(8)). snapinfo -v on that filesystem might help. Or lsof. > BTW: is everyone else getting messages from the list twice, once with the > list's signature, once without? Normal procedure on the FreeBSD mailing lists is to respond to the message and CC the list (or vice versa) so replies are visible to everyone. If your mail setup allows it, mail/procmail can weed out duplicates and sort mail into folders. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 20:36:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24800106568D for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from liontaur@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D0B8FC15 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so4227696bwz.43 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:36:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hoHTiNm8jGY/GGEYSeY676hKv9mme7JfBKZOBFKA/oo=; b=WRa9suKWs7sopNxtQsr7zf88A/kuPWbCRM2hh22gn4qNs9yVTVz2boI2QEXqSsnltd NCQQKelXBZyG0bwxS4o4xoa4T8Etrm1Wa6r5gRix/DZNNECKPoVeXgXw0l0Mra71DfWb QdlaC6AfObI5ztzS39WDnQnXvfipk0z4864/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wB3PDvOBCU7RNmv5dSY7JHFkJo19C3PsYG44dMqOhGv5twt+btIvocNEfBrPxv9Lt3 Y4kba115gUQAadAEUi84XBch9Fq67HBf1cCl4j0rH/r3SP1mph3llLVBw9fDYq2dG1JU 8/BRV2uGkfS9HwO8slzGfjT3LG/E6buZDXVpc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.48.210 with SMTP id s18mr251363bkf.162.1254946264189; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:11:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091007190122.a091804b.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <496325.97096.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4ad871310910070609r126fb880he201b9f2aa2d3f3f@mail.gmail.com> <20091007164212.f7dff406.freebsd@edvax.de> <4ad871310910070942u71a613bar99bf460055808561@mail.gmail.com> <20091007190122.a091804b.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:11:04 -0700 Message-ID: From: Liontaur To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Daily run reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:36:21 -0000 How's about just putting a .forward file in root's home dir? That works well for me and doesn't require rebuilding this or that. Mark On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:42:41 +0000, Glen Barber > wrote: > > No, you do not need to restart sendmail with newaliases(1). > > True. According to "man newaliases", > > Newaliases is identical to ``sendmail -bi''. > > and per "man sendmail", > > -bi Initialize the alias database. > > which says nothing about sendmail being restarted. Good to know! :-) > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 20:53:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBF41065676 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1D18FC16 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio MailServer 6.7.2) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)) for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:53:27 -0400 Message-Id: <1E6C34A3-BB51-471B-A142-EC32CED26CE8@olivent.com> From: Mikel King To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:52:46 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: Subject: BSD Professional Job Task Analysis Survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:53:29 -0000 The BSD News Network reports that volunteer as desperately needed to complete the BSDP JTA Survey by the deadline of October 16th. The BSD Certification Group has been diligently working toward this goal for quite some time now. http://bsdnews.net/index.php/2009/10/07/bsdcertdeadline-approaching-fast-for-the-bsdp-jta-survey/ I am curious how many people on this list were aware of the survey? Has anyone else actually completed the survey? Has anyone seen an announcement about this on the FreeBSD lists in the past? Thanks, Mikel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 21:01:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6AC106568D for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f186.google.com (mail-yw0-f186.google.com [209.85.211.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0F18FC0A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh16 with SMTP id 16so4732271ywh.13 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:01:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=dqGHM+U8cfVJSjADoe8NtAneIbTloBrM1LPt3pEP2wg=; b=LTZITQCDVTSmEDd4j94427Wk9UqlM8fSamjWkx8KSez0NP1ALKgb8cwCeap11fblRK 9Yk/Map1g3w+lxkAHtjtwUwxJv99BB3Rs6HeIaSeHm+QcdhLxVAgGwKn5tBa9zLkLv+a homHTVSKVP2ggxQDhDHfY78krMmfNYHLNtU70= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=XQgrzRH/30sPp0V8XHYmNKeJOwYHVosVdCWDbdCCeGsq2IRuBYPf9T7ahsxGEhl1zZ wFm8OCY6CevBAmt7ZDsMb+1mptQODecahNBde82PYOmBkIfgPoGb9tDBDuOnkeSVa50d dJh/e0nW0IbAx5OVG1cPKBFVBGONYV+0YE2uE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.76.5 with SMTP id d5mr235544agl.68.1254948078259; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:41:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091007192717.GA2150@polands.org> References: <26ddd1750910071222n3d2b82ebn72ae4c00ddeaa9a4@mail.gmail.com> <20091007192717.GA2150@polands.org> From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:40:58 -0400 Message-ID: <26ddd1750910071340i5ccd48c0qe07e55310c8a4e60@mail.gmail.com> To: Doug Poland Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Show bandwidth usage by IP address (through pf) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:01:51 -0000 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Doug Poland wrote: > On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 03:22:33PM -0400, Maxim Khitrov wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I have pf filtering traffic to our network. Is there any easy way to >> see the current bandwidth usage sorted by ip? Someone is using up >> almost 100% of total bandwidth and parsing "pfctl -ss -v" isn't >> getting me anywhere. >> > sysutils/pftop is your friend :) > Exactly what I needed, thanks! - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 21:31:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3759106568F for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:31:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.wilcox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f186.google.com (mail-yw0-f186.google.com [209.85.211.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A538FC20 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh16 with SMTP id 16so4756528ywh.13 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:31:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dpXCamdlKS1YCrVNnqJIMQXTs0X5sbCWdmVAYrXPM7o=; b=yEcOXeEYb47wHVwwMvVWzxNN7+k9qmZ1STR1/BUST3hfrb8uIY9hC/VIv8flpm7AMz zdADl0fdmpLGhQpVgUtBBpLsfXkty/pnQ4NxxwDiMsHT+Q+3E+ur/aCo0qEEucDOdWfb hHNgfvvqmRPvJXnJhfd+NQTcThK+EiCaAy09I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=twDZa/7uwcNKk7ZX0/xksCnwg4OwxVCDTSyubXBieO+BGFeO4PlCn/8vOVxilQglt1 W1yi21kxFSokr6wdi6KHTvCvmBrEVkoAn9v03x8CONL8D3lm9brOSi2rGG2mR16f1b6p 4xpttER3yuH2aX7McnfU12ybXbhO8v2iC4Fg4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.127.20 with SMTP id z20mr229118agc.118.1254949729346; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:08:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750910071222n3d2b82ebn72ae4c00ddeaa9a4@mail.gmail.com> References: <26ddd1750910071222n3d2b82ebn72ae4c00ddeaa9a4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:08:49 -0400 Message-ID: <5d6848b00910071408t7f923act2957e7bed869ea93@mail.gmail.com> From: Kevin Wilcox To: Maxim Khitrov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Show bandwidth usage by IP address (through pf) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:31:18 -0000 2009/10/7 Maxim Khitrov : > I have pf filtering traffic to our network. Is there any easy way to > see the current bandwidth usage sorted by ip? Someone is using up > almost 100% of total bandwidth and parsing "pfctl -ss -v" isn't > getting me anywhere. It's overkill and does a ton more than what you're asking for...but have you looked at ipaudit? Or, more specifically, ipaudit-web? I ended up installing apache/gnuplot/etc from ports but installed ipaudit from source as the version in ports is *incredibly* outdated. kmw -- Whenever there is in any country, uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right. The earth is given as a common stock for man to labour and live on. -- Thomas Jefferson, 1785 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 21:43:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A551106568D for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from JHALL@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5a.socket.net [216.106.26.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B98A8FC15 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.129.40.201] (216.106.12.14.reverse.socket.net [216.106.12.14]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12CA63445; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:43:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: From: Jay Hall To: krad In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:43:17 -0500 References: <99D3E0B6-09CA-453C-A964-AA95D4A6B35C@SOCKET.NET> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rsync include and exclude X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:43:20 -0000 Thanks. That took care of the problem. Jay On Oct 7, 2009, at 3:02 PM, krad wrote: > > > 2009/10/7 Jay Hall > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > I am using rsync to backup some information and I am having some > problem with including and excluding directories. > > I want to include everything in the user's mail directory and > everything in the user's documents directory. Everything else > should be excluded. And, it is possible to have multiple users on a > single computer. > > Following is what I am using for my include/exclude patterns. > > + /Users/*/Library/Mail/ > + /Users/*/Documents/ > - /Users/*/Documents/* > - /Users/*/Library/* > > This gives me close to the desired result. However, there are some > extra files included which I do not need to backup which are stored > in /Users/username directory. > > If I add -/Users/*, no files are backed up. > > After reading the man pages and several examples, I thought I had a > handle on this. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > Jay > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > > try adding this line to the top > > + /Users/* > > then this to the bottom > > - /Users/*/* > > > I use lists like this at work a lot and you have to be careful. The > ordering of the rules is very important. The common on for people to > get wrong is the mysql rules.. We generally dont copy the binary db > files as they would never be consistent, so we dump the db else > where and exclude the files. Except we need to capture the my.cnf > file. The following ruleset does it > > + /var/db/mysql > + /var/db/mysql/my.cnf > - /var/db/mysql/** > > If you deviate from this things dont tend to work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 22:14:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE461065670 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 22:14:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from honeysuckle.london.02.net (honeysuckle.london.02.net [87.194.255.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6CA8FC0A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 22:14:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by honeysuckle.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4A23EDE6051E09BF; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:14:54 +0100 Message-ID: <4ACD12DE.6010206@onetel.com> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:14:54 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090614) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Jocks References: <9CC197E2-43F9-4583-9DE6-EDC51E1618F0@netzkommune.de> <28606D03-C96E-47BA-A448-011E1A7F8F75@netzkommune.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dump_snapshot file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:14:56 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Philip Jocks wrote: >> BTW: is everyone else getting messages from the list twice, once with >> the list's signature, once without? > > Normal procedure on the FreeBSD mailing lists is to respond to the > message and CC the list (or vice versa) so replies are visible to > everyone. If your mail setup allows it, mail/procmail can weed out > duplicates and sort mail into folders. > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA There is a setting in your mailing list config eg http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/your@email.address which I think sets this. It's called Avoid duplicate copies of messages: When you are listed explicitly in the To: or Cc: headers of a list message, you can opt to not receive another copy from the mailing list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 22:34:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4C5106566B for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 22:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidn04@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f181.google.com (mail-qy0-f181.google.com [209.85.221.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784E68FC13 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 22:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so4599658qyk.13 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:34:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=xNrzeHfU+TyGOSvnelAyd9t1edpWyeN6IUMVzmOyn60=; b=bCGo66Fre3gc/lfpcVu1OoPAO6wu+0gdD26YXwen+HzpWgzg62MCaOqMjoGPiXPJ+x Tr95IIBHc4RQOVUhDrZEUVfNdN9+p68q56sryfGK2lNpNHpb6T4yxuGqy6cSkJ+dVtV/ Zu7OIwA5/PnQJnC4ZjyL48vdVjC8UgAYIkZNU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=pI0L6cR21NBBNiIK5OVNiqcVt2BBhfzWD6xOEZIR8bkj702WZvHWLE+gm7VM9kBTlw Wbu6h8Syl4wZpwE338Rq0srGJXNMWA/uquJQnDhfSUEdXJXmXo4ZLL8dAbnRy/baJiVM ALiXxwIUl8WoUfskS+PMKn8h6XerdhfpFQoTo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.92.199 with SMTP id s7mr433006qcm.23.1254952970451; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:02:50 +1100 Message-ID: <4d7dd86f0910071502n4164fd6eu26693ed03cb3cbee@mail.gmail.com> From: David N To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Daily report cannot be emailed to a jailed mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:34:46 -0000 Hi, FreeBSD 7.2-R box with 10 jails. The mail server (actually its a mail filter) is hosted on the same server inside a jail. I can't seem to get the main server reports to be sent to the mail filter inside the jail inside the same box. so.. root@localhost tries to send an email to someone@anotherdomain.com.au The MX entry for anotherdomain.com.au points to the mailfilter on the server (jailed). I've changed my /etc/mail/aliases to have root: someone@anotherdomain.com.au and ran newaliases. When i try to send an email i get in /var/log/messages sm-mta[94682]: n97LeeOw094682: Losing ./qfn97LeeOw094682: savemail panic Oct 8 08:40:40 server sm-mta[94682]: n97LeeOw094682: SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere Oct 8 08:42:30 server sm-mta[94713]: n97LgTYg094713: Losing ./qfn97LgTYg094713: savemail panic Oct 8 08:42:30 server sm-mta[94713]: n97LgTYg094713: SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere Oct 8 08:47:07 server sm-mta[95130]: n97Ll7VV095129: SYSERR(root): MX list for anotherdomain.com.au. points back to server.net In /var/log/maillog n97Ll7VV095129: to=someone@anotherdomain.com.au, ctladdr= (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=30715, relay=anotherdomain.com.au., dsn=5.3.5, stat=Local configuration error Oct 8 08:47:07 server sm-mta[95130]: n97Ll7VV095129: n97Ll7VV095130: DSN: Local configuration error Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? Regards David N From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 23:39:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5861106568D for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:39:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 758F98FC0A for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23676 invoked by uid 89); 7 Oct 2009 23:38:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 7 Oct 2009 23:38:54 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACD26A8.30709@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:39:20 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David N References: <4d7dd86f0910071502n4164fd6eu26693ed03cb3cbee@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4d7dd86f0910071502n4164fd6eu26693ed03cb3cbee@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Daily report cannot be emailed to a jailed mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:39:16 -0000 David N wrote: > Hi, > > FreeBSD 7.2-R box with 10 jails. > > The mail server (actually its a mail filter) is hosted on the same > server inside a jail. > > I can't seem to get the main server reports to be sent to the mail > filter inside the jail inside the same box. > > so.. root@localhost tries to send an email to someone@anotherdomain.com.au > > The MX entry for anotherdomain.com.au points to the mailfilter on the > server (jailed). > > > I've changed my /etc/mail/aliases to have > root: someone@anotherdomain.com.au > and ran newaliases. > > When i try to send an email i get > in /var/log/messages > sm-mta[94682]: n97LeeOw094682: Losing ./qfn97LeeOw094682: savemail panic > Oct 8 08:40:40 server sm-mta[94682]: n97LeeOw094682: SYSERR(root): > savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere > Oct 8 08:42:30 server sm-mta[94713]: n97LgTYg094713: Losing > ./qfn97LgTYg094713: savemail panic > Oct 8 08:42:30 server sm-mta[94713]: n97LgTYg094713: SYSERR(root): > savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere > Oct 8 08:47:07 server sm-mta[95130]: n97Ll7VV095129: SYSERR(root): MX > list for anotherdomain.com.au. points back to server.net > > In /var/log/maillog > n97Ll7VV095129: to=someone@anotherdomain.com.au, > ctladdr= (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, > mailer=esmtp, pri=30715, relay=anotherdomain.com.au., dsn=5.3.5, > stat=Local configuration error > Oct 8 08:47:07 server sm-mta[95130]: n97Ll7VV095129: n97Ll7VV095130: > DSN: Local configuration error > > Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? If you hadn't of sanitized the domain names, it would have been easier to troubleshoot... Nonetheless, you can force Sendmail to push email to a different server directly (overriding the DNS MX entries) with a 'mailertable' file in /etc/mail. Here's one on a secondary MX: %cat /etc/mail/mailertable ibctech.ca smtp:[smtp.ibctech.ca] ipv6canada.com smtp:[smtp.ipv6canada.com] ... After the file is created, a simple 'make' in /etc/mail will build the mailertable.db file for you and take effect immediately (much like 'newaliases'). However, it's hard to tell if this recommendation will solve your problem though. Without knowing the real domain, we can't perform DNS tests against it to get a better understanding of the situation. Cheers, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 7 23:48:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE961065672 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy.belk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f184.google.com (mail-yx0-f184.google.com [209.85.210.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9038FC13 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe14 with SMTP id 14so8737468yxe.7 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:48:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=SgPV58TpRtkbkCBZc5uWtEsTN8mT4BrRjLaWm8cuObI=; b=dgSNIceHwnzsfyEg5p8HJa5e3rOJUDN4Us2LILMqOtg1jldM3MAAgGnbXXQFIwoZ5d 2sQnlZgCNiFevylSIiGE+4aNsANTXAC4kcLsV2ZrtTzXQaMVeWJrhPKtcdxyxKzsVk7p O5tDAU5I43Miv/sRr+vB7cYA7Ek5y8iqAM7Ps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=Hfc7gHSKiX0saIdHMx+61k1q0UP7n+CT+HqYAnQipKdJnkfntBBiXoRBq8YVJdl7EW MioydQ1aUh+ado+NoOEez632FQEBmIqlgIfNN0n4rUENnKTJwbWDQFoAT/cOfuuOfmyM R5L4B6VJWswBXydNfUfbZd3hxcOHF7/8lT4CY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.237.9 with SMTP id k9mr1113373ybh.108.1254959332081; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:48:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1E6C34A3-BB51-471B-A142-EC32CED26CE8@olivent.com> References: <1E6C34A3-BB51-471B-A142-EC32CED26CE8@olivent.com> From: Randy Belk Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 18:48:32 -0500 Message-ID: <946140ad0910071648u7f6b0ds476150c79b01485e@mail.gmail.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: BSD Professional Job Task Analysis Survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:48:53 -0000 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Mikel King wrote: > The BSD News Network reports that volunteer as desperately needed to > complete the BSDP JTA Survey by the deadline of October 16th. The BSD > Certification Group has been diligently working toward this goal for quite > some time now. > > http://bsdnews.net/index.php/2009/10/07/bsdcertdeadline-approaching-fast-for-the-bsdp-jta-survey/ > > I am curious how many people on this list were aware of the survey? > > Has anyone else actually completed the survey? > > Has anyone seen an announcement about this on the FreeBSD lists in the past? > > Thanks, > Mikel > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I have completed it. -- - Amiga, The Computer for the creative Mind! - UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity. - People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use BSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 00:56:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039C810656BD for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 00:56:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from mail.optimis.net (mail.optimis.net [69.104.191.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C756C8FC1A for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 00:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (marvin.optimis.net [192.168.1.3]) by mail.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n980ubGP001161 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:56:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n980uaMV039885 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:56:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: (from george@localhost) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n980uanZ039884 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:56:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:56:36 -0700 From: George Davidovich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091008005636.GA38899@marvin.optimis.net> References: <2daa8b4e0910062345r83fa23aj113b062af114887f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0910062345r83fa23aj113b062af114887f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: A general sed question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:56:38 -0000 On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 11:45:36PM -0700, David Allen wrote: > I keep bumping up against this, so I thought I'd throw this question out > to those who understand sed better than I do. > > What I'm trying to do is to clean up the contents of some files > (/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC would be a good example) to get more readable > diffs. To that end, I'm trying to use sed to For the following note that what's contained in the square brackets is a space character followed by a literal TAB character (typically created by entering ^V followed by TAB). > - delete commented lines > - remove inline comments s/[ ]*#.*// # takes care of both, but will leave \t\t\t\n > - remove trailing spaces and/or tabs s/[ ]*$// # handy, but not needed if using diff -b > - delete blank lines, and/or lines containing just spaces and/or tabs /^[ ]*$/d > - expand tabs This is overly complex with sed and probably unecessary. Instead I'd suggest using your editor (in vim, it's ':set expandtab | retab'), or for interactive use, relying on expand(1) and using a value for -t that matches the tab spacing you typically use for your pager and/or editor. Alternatively, to get better visual alignment when using diff(1), just use the -t option. Putting the above together, you get sed -e 's/[ ]*#.*//' -e 's/[ ]*$//' -e '/^[ ]*$/d' Hardly ideal but it's readable enough and satisfies the 80/20 rule. If used as a simple alias, shell function or script as Oliver Fromme suggested (yes, this works in bash), my suggestion is diff -ubBt <(cleanup /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC) <(cleanup /path/to/NEWKERNEL) -- George From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 01:25:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F211065676 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E9D8A8FC17 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26638 invoked by uid 89); 8 Oct 2009 01:25:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 8 Oct 2009 01:25:19 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACD3F98.8030905@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:25:44 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions -" X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Common practice for generating SSL CSR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:25:41 -0000 Although not FBSD specific... I'm looking to garner production-wise operational feedback on the commands people are using to generate their (Open)SSL cert requests nowadays... All feedback appreciated. I'm just curious to know if things have changed. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 01:37:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1689106568B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:37:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3DF8FC12 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA21F3A3842; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:37:04 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1254965824; x= 1256780224; bh=RdMN8pQAS7nBHW7rEz8KTmLHgARYqwtb9wQB6T69bbE=; b=k qNcNc/qTi+C+wyBuf+9d7PiScik5QCNuqKr8P6OLcJHbMa6daySKpwTHOqq0O61O GL8SVHJn/ZNjD9KqQgrjiLmyrh5quGRuOqn2flbz2aJi/OqNQPsSwWCaytgcJQtA uUC0usPkELbJZEVwe8+bPf9RE39yZvR7h/Ikvq7yZc= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 7eT6br3Kcom6; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:37:04 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1C6C3A383C; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:37:03 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n981b00w017733; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:37:00 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:37:00 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200910080137.n981b00w017733@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: steve@ibctech.ca In-reply-to: <4ACD3F98.8030905@ibctech.ca> (message from Steve Bertrand on Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:25:44 -0400) References: <4ACD3F98.8030905@ibctech.ca> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Common practice for generating SSL CSR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:37:08 -0000 > I'm looking to garner production-wise operational feedback on the > commands people are using to generate their (Open)SSL cert requests > nowadays... I usually follow what is very well explained in modssl FAQ. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 01:44:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF1010656A4 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 223738FC0A for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27201 invoked by uid 89); 8 Oct 2009 01:44:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 8 Oct 2009 01:44:10 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACD4403.1010404@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:44:35 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole References: <4ACD3F98.8030905@ibctech.ca> <200910080137.n981b00w017733@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200910080137.n981b00w017733@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Common practice for generating SSL CSR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:44:32 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: >> I'm looking to garner production-wise operational feedback on the >> commands people are using to generate their (Open)SSL cert requests >> nowadays... > > I usually follow what is very well explained in modssl FAQ. Thanks Olivier, That's what I thought, but just wanted to be sure. fwiw, TFM: http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_faq.html#ToC28 Thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 01:49:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4AB1065679 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:49:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidn04@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f181.google.com (mail-qy0-f181.google.com [209.85.221.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79F78FC16 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:49:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so4717882qyk.13 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:49:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kMjRSymoKxBU7UhnKmlSdXVFjLBHNEFmhRP7klP4ddI=; b=cMHbImxx/0EBhHUlBLQYVB2rbgYEUiPSTBnJ9JvOdiKdKtpeXZtWl/N6XUL49V29iF qxzYaOaPWYXQYqxcLHLswazaxAT5UDbx9s7kbGu8aEsMaegZCGThuYg0dKK+aMPlKziH 4Tisf92ljWKkGnaXDGTKgvxw5wF6Kr4BUOmYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TeOViSCFxsLq+xE7NlClSbHoSoxEcWChmq26J3xk9kHe8CaHENTz6ZuRJU9qsziy+t l+RtCU2CQeJFC4RFoOsfsl9HdBZW3q9Z1x+vuV3ges/kYofgn9ABwGW/ifG+8G09lg1r J6Itw0akmkVuPX6yr40a6JglZmbGzla1561PM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.54.143 with SMTP id q15mr429822qcg.74.1254966575593; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:49:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACD26A8.30709@ibctech.ca> References: <4d7dd86f0910071502n4164fd6eu26693ed03cb3cbee@mail.gmail.com> <4ACD26A8.30709@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:49:35 +1100 Message-ID: <4d7dd86f0910071849h35e70f9wd1dbbcf6b3b2d47a@mail.gmail.com> From: David N To: Steve Bertrand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Daily report cannot be emailed to a jailed mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:49:37 -0000 2009/10/8 Steve Bertrand : > David N wrote: >> Hi, >> >> FreeBSD 7.2-R box with 10 jails. >> >> The mail server (actually its a mail filter) is hosted on the same >> server inside a jail. >> >> I can't seem to get the main server reports to be sent to the mail >> filter inside the jail inside the same box. >> >> so.. root@localhost tries to send an email to someone@anotherdomain.com.= au >> >> The MX entry for anotherdomain.com.au points to the mailfilter on the >> server (jailed). >> >> >> I've changed my /etc/mail/aliases to have >> root: someone@anotherdomain.com.au >> and ran newaliases. >> >> When i try to send an email i get >> in /var/log/messages >> sm-mta[94682]: n97LeeOw094682: Losing ./qfn97LeeOw094682: savemail panic >> Oct =A08 08:40:40 server sm-mta[94682]: n97LeeOw094682: SYSERR(root): >> savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere >> Oct =A08 08:42:30 server sm-mta[94713]: n97LgTYg094713: Losing >> ./qfn97LgTYg094713: savemail panic >> Oct =A08 08:42:30 server sm-mta[94713]: n97LgTYg094713: SYSERR(root): >> savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere >> Oct =A08 08:47:07 server sm-mta[95130]: n97Ll7VV095129: SYSERR(root): MX >> list for anotherdomain.com.au. points back to server.net >> >> In /var/log/maillog >> n97Ll7VV095129: to=3Dsomeone@anotherdomain.com.au, >> ctladdr=3D (0/0), delay=3D00:00:00, xdelay=3D00:00:00, >> mailer=3Desmtp, pri=3D30715, relay=3Danotherdomain.com.au., dsn=3D5.3.5, >> stat=3DLocal configuration error >> Oct =A08 08:47:07 server sm-mta[95130]: n97Ll7VV095129: n97Ll7VV095130: >> DSN: Local configuration error >> >> Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? > > If you hadn't of sanitized the domain names, it would have been easier > to troubleshoot... > > Nonetheless, you can force Sendmail to push email to a different server > directly (overriding the DNS MX entries) with a 'mailertable' file in > /etc/mail. Here's one on a secondary MX: > > %cat /etc/mail/mailertable > ibctech.ca =A0 =A0 =A0smtp:[smtp.ibctech.ca] > ipv6canada.com =A0smtp:[smtp.ipv6canada.com] > ... > > After the file is created, a simple 'make' in /etc/mail will build the > mailertable.db file for you and take effect immediately (much like > 'newaliases'). > > However, it's hard to tell if this recommendation will solve your > problem though. Without knowing the real domain, we can't perform DNS > tests against it to get a better understanding of the situation. > > Cheers, > > Steve > > Thank you so much, it worked =3D) My MX records are correct, i could get mail from the outside, but just couldn't get the daily reports to deliver it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 02:06:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E01106566B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 02:06:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from mail.optimis.net (mail.optimis.net [69.104.191.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6716F8FC18 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 02:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (marvin.optimis.net [192.168.1.3]) by mail.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9826JHI001805 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:06:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9826Jm7040356 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:06:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: (from george@localhost) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9826JLN040355 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:06:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:06:19 -0700 From: George Davidovich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091008020619.GB38899@marvin.optimis.net> References: <4d7dd86f0910071502n4164fd6eu26693ed03cb3cbee@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4d7dd86f0910071502n4164fd6eu26693ed03cb3cbee@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: Daily report cannot be emailed to a jailed mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:06:20 -0000 On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 09:02:50AM +1100, David N wrote: > FreeBSD 7.2-R box with 10 jails. > > The mail server (actually its a mail filter) is hosted on the same > server inside a jail. > > I can't seem to get the main server reports to be sent to the mail > filter inside the jail inside the same box. > > so.. root@localhost tries to send an email to > someone@anotherdomain.com.au > > The MX entry for anotherdomain.com.au points to the mailfilter on the > server (jailed). > > I've changed my /etc/mail/aliases to have > root: someone@anotherdomain.com.au > and ran newaliases. It's been already pointed out that you aren't providing much information to go on, so here's my WAG of what is happening. Changing the root alias root could work, but consider the case of mail from the jailhost being rejected by the jailed mailserver. The bounce message will be addressed to POSTMASTER on the jailhost, which points to root on the jailhost, which points back to the jailed mailserver trying to send the bounce, which points to ... You can examine the scenario for yourself either by listening to a married couple on the verge of divorce argue with one another, or more specifically, by running [root@jailhost] sendmail -bv root [root@jail] sendmail -bv postmaster@jailhost.server.net > When i try to send an email i get > in /var/log/messages > sm-mta[94682]: n97LeeOw094682: Losing ./qfn97LeeOw094682: savemail panic > Oct 8 08:40:40 server sm-mta[94682]: n97LeeOw094682: SYSERR(root): > savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere > Oct 8 08:42:30 server sm-mta[94713]: n97LgTYg094713: Losing > ./qfn97LgTYg094713: savemail panic > Oct 8 08:42:30 server sm-mta[94713]: n97LgTYg094713: SYSERR(root): > savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere > Oct 8 08:47:07 server sm-mta[95130]: n97Ll7VV095129: SYSERR(root): MX > list for anotherdomain.com.au. points back to server.net The jailed mailserver is rejecting the mail and is then trying to send a bounce and can't because it's caught in a loop that ends when Sendmail says "Look this isn't an argument ... it's just contradiction!" and bails out. Why the jailed mailserver is rejecting the mail is a separate issue. > In /var/log/maillog > n97Ll7VV095129: to=someone@anotherdomain.com.au, > ctladdr= (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, > mailer=esmtp, pri=30715, relay=anotherdomain.com.au., dsn=5.3.5, > stat=Local configuration error > Oct 8 08:47:07 server sm-mta[95130]: n97Ll7VV095129: n97Ll7VV095130: > DSN: Local configuration error That's from the maillog on the jailhost. More relevant to why the jailed mailserver has rejected the mail would be the jail's maillog entries (or whatever logging was done by the "filter" installed there). Either way, for the interim I'd suggest undoing your changes, rebuilding your aliases and consider implementing an alternate approach. For anyone to figure out conclusively what's happening, you'll have to provide more information. -- George From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 02:09:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8221065676 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 02:09:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 283C18FC1B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 02:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27936 invoked by uid 89); 8 Oct 2009 02:09:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 8 Oct 2009 02:09:16 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACD49E5.2010006@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:09:41 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David N References: <4d7dd86f0910071502n4164fd6eu26693ed03cb3cbee@mail.gmail.com> <4ACD26A8.30709@ibctech.ca> <4d7dd86f0910071849h35e70f9wd1dbbcf6b3b2d47a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4d7dd86f0910071849h35e70f9wd1dbbcf6b3b2d47a@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Daily report cannot be emailed to a jailed mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:09:36 -0000 David N wrote: > 2009/10/8 Steve Bertrand : >> David N wrote: [ big snips ] >>> When i try to send an email i get >>> Oct 8 08:47:07 server sm-mta[95130]: n97Ll7VV095129: SYSERR(root): MX >>> list for anotherdomain.com.au. points back to server.net >> Nonetheless, you can force Sendmail to push email to a different server >> directly (overriding the DNS MX entries) with a 'mailertable' file in >> /etc/mail. Here's one on a secondary MX: >> >> %cat /etc/mail/mailertable >> ibctech.ca smtp:[smtp.ibctech.ca] >> ipv6canada.com smtp:[smtp.ipv6canada.com] >> ... >> >> After the file is created, a simple 'make' in /etc/mail will build the >> mailertable.db file for you and take effect immediately (much like >> 'newaliases'). > Thank you so much, it worked =) > > My MX records are correct, i could get mail from the outside, but just > couldn't get the daily reports to deliver it. I'm glad it worked. Believe me, if that simple change made it work for you, then it was worth my headache to have spent the time to learn it for myself ;) For the last few years, I've only used Sendmail (or sendmail) to act as a backup MX, or to directly deliver mail from the box I am on...hence, it's been a while... There may be other ramifications to using `mailertable' in your particular environment. I don't know how your system will react, given a default setup and a mailertable entry. It's possible (but untested) that if the server that is specified in the mailertable is down, your reports might not make it to you ( whether that's bad or good is up for interpretation... I've always known no news as good news ;) Perhaps Giorgos or someone else may be able to provide a better understanding. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 03:24:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2061C106566B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 03:24:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from smtp.cyberfingers.net (smtp.cyberfingers.net [198.177.254.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22068FC0A for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 03:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mdaemon.pldrouin.net (CPE0023695b905f-CM001a666aca96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.246.67.95]) by smtp.cyberfingers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A40AB6C11 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:21:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4ACD5B80.9030703@pldrouin.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:24:48 -0400 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: When is it worth enabling hyperthreading? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:24:25 -0000 Hi, Could someone explain me in which cases it is useful to enable hyperthreading on a machine running FreeBSD 8.0 and in which other cases it is not a good idea? Is that possible that hyperthreading is disadvantageous unless the number of active (non-sleeping) threads is really high? For example, if I have an i7 CPU with 4 physical cores and that I run some multi-threaded code that has only 4 threads, it will run almost always (twice) slower with hyperthreading enabled than when I disable it in the BIOS. If I understand correctly, hyperthreading has the advantage of being able to do CPU context switching faster than the OS, but it does this context switching systematically instead of only when requested, so it slows things down unless the number of running (non-sleeping) threads is greater or equal to let say the number of physical threads x 1.5-1.75. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 03:32:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89539106566B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 03:32:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371668FC13 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 03:32:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55323A383C for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:32:29 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= subject:subject:from:from:message-id:date:date:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1254972749; x=1256787149; bh=NfSXsVKIY 6PuhyeCDXtKSe9/+v/1EyW6833KwMJaxOU=; b=QeTrDfyt3VvVfMmYfynDwqeYA jjMF3swy7cQpVx1CQfFXnLasWPKqk+BKWS0D1S91y/ydH0u3e4MHH7osrNdn23o2 CzUW2qvJVe6dXai+gbcxrlxXEO5uNSQqDV2utYxHJODftq0IPXhndPzd5aDOMoIy gIeIRnrbw20OJxxIWc= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id nJ8lNOVr+2RM for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:32:29 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3952B3A3836 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:32:29 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n983WTW3018483; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:32:29 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:32:29 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200910080332.n983WTW3018483@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: MySQL + SSL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:32:34 -0000 Hi, I have been strugling to find the correct syntax for the mysql(1) command to connect with SSL. My server is accepting SSL connections: db2: mysql -u root -p Enter password: Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g. Your MySQL connection id is 1 Server version: 5.4.2-beta FreeBSD port: mysql-server-5.4.2 Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the current input statement. mysql> SHOW VARIABLES LIKE '%ssl%'; +---------------+-------------------------------------------+ | Variable_name | Value | +---------------+-------------------------------------------+ | have_openssl | YES | | have_ssl | YES | | ssl_ca | /usr/local/ssl/ca/ait-itserv.crt | | ssl_capath | | | ssl_cert | /usr/local/ssl/crt/db2.cs.ait.ac.th.crt | | ssl_cipher | DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:AES128-SHA | | ssl_key | /database/mysql/database.cs.ait.ac.th.key | +---------------+-------------------------------------------+ 7 rows in set (0.00 sec) mysql> quit Bye db2: TIA, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 07:45:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C19106566B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34F18FC14 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n987jark019710; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:45:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n987jark019710 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1254987939; bh=PV3cs6BgeFICd8gxecLORM5mRAYFcuDzEy331Vr0KSI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4ACD9898.7000701@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T hu,=2008=20Oct=202009=2008:45:28=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20090823)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Olivier=20Nicole=20| CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20MySQL=20+=20S SL|References:=20<200910080332.n983WTW3018483@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> |In-Reply-To:=20<200910080332.n983WTW3018483@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>| X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=2 0micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signat ure"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigE9D1DDEEF235241AE05CC4 C4"; b=CPchR8t67AyyacFcQVv751kT2ON/a00+wI6zZ2Uga9LoJ310XczQGvEV5TGiyjstk GQNnh2HYIaWX747mW2Ei1Nf+whjm5ym0BCbXt9rIViT32zBia/9cjX56gnD2e22fLq ih56b6SbNuRFE0I1hr6tCbOgpWT948LnHPfdF544= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4ACD9898.7000701@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:45:28 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090823) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole References: <200910080332.n983WTW3018483@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200910080332.n983WTW3018483@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE9D1DDEEF235241AE05CC4C4" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MySQL + SSL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:45:57 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE9D1DDEEF235241AE05CC4C4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I have been strugling to find the correct syntax for the mysql(1) > command to connect with SSL. >=20 > My server is accepting SSL connections: >=20 > db2: mysql -u root -p > Enter password:=20 > Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g. > Your MySQL connection id is 1 > Server version: 5.4.2-beta FreeBSD port: mysql-server-5.4.2 > =20 > Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the current input s= tatement. > =20 > mysql> SHOW VARIABLES LIKE '%ssl%'; > +---------------+-------------------------------------------+ > | Variable_name | Value | > +---------------+-------------------------------------------+ > | have_openssl | YES | > | have_ssl | YES | > | ssl_ca | /usr/local/ssl/ca/ait-itserv.crt | > | ssl_capath | | > | ssl_cert | /usr/local/ssl/crt/db2.cs.ait.ac.th.crt | > | ssl_cipher | DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:AES128-SHA | > | ssl_key | /database/mysql/database.cs.ait.ac.th.key | > +---------------+-------------------------------------------+ > 7 rows in set (0.00 sec) > =20 > mysql> quit > Bye > db2: This is a question more suited to one of the various MySQL fora really. Anyhow, the standard take on using SSL to encrypt MySQL connections is: don't do it. MySQL is apparently pretty ropey when in comes to doing crypto. Instead, you should use ipsec, ssh, stunnel or the like to provide an encrypted transport layer that you access MySQL through. It's also generally the case that the overhead of doing encryption between the DB and the client application tends to destroy performance. Design your=20 network so that the DB is close to the application servers and has a protected private network between the two, where you can send plaintext traffic without fear of snooping. If you need to work with systems distributed over a number of sites, then replicating the DB so there is an instance at each location is a good design choice, despite the difficulties this introduces with Insert/Update/Delete on replica DBs. Then just encrypt the transport layer the inter-site replication traffic uses. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigE9D1DDEEF235241AE05CC4C4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkrNmKAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwKpACfXa2c5ZHgx+j3FHZhmDoVZbBK zxEAniaqCW+5F4QAQQ2o7RjDWLZn2N2S =xFPG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE9D1DDEEF235241AE05CC4C4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 08:10:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2B91065693 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:10:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FDA8FC22 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n988Ausr057806 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:10:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n988Auoo057805; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 01:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA19053; Thu, 8 Oct 09 01:00:43 PDT Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:02:32 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4acd9c98.Mf06e1KlRm+blPrD%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <200910071110.n97BANiE012861@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200910071110.n97BANiE012861@lurza.secnetix.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chrisstankevitz@yahoo.com, olli@lurza.secnetix.de Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:10:58 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > Chris Stankevitz wrote: > ... > > Q1: Is 26M free space on / after installing FreeBSD normal? > > It depends on the FreeBSD version, and whether you installed > the kernel with debug symbols. 430 MB space used in the > root file system isn't completely uncommon. > > Nowadays I recomment to spend 1 GB for the root file system ... I have long wondered where sysinstall gets its default FS sizes. At least as far back as SunOs 3.5* the installer was able to auto- size the partitions based on the selected distribution sets. Of course, this means that the installer must know the size of each distribution set -- on each of /, /usr, and /var -- and that the selection of what to install has to happen before the partitioning is actually done. I would think that the sizing of the distribution sets could easily be automated as part of the release process, and that the needed reordering of the installation process would not be all that difficult for someone familiar with sysinstall and accustomed to coding in the language involved. * a commercial incarnation of 4.2BSD, some 20 or 30 years ago; I date myself by having even heard of it :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 08:24:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9F11065692 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F6E8FC15 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n988OBvn059557; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:24:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n988OB0V059556; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:24:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:24:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910080824.n988OB0V059556@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, mkhitrov@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750910071222n3d2b82ebn72ae4c00ddeaa9a4@mail.gmail.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:24:26 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Show bandwidth usage by IP address (through pf) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, mkhitrov@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:24:28 -0000 Maxim Khitrov wrote: > I have pf filtering traffic to our network. Is there any easy way to > see the current bandwidth usage sorted by ip? Someone is using up > almost 100% of total bandwidth and parsing "pfctl -ss -v" isn't > getting me anywhere. The trafshow tool (ports/net/trafshow) does exactly that. The nice thing about it is that it accepts the same filter expressions that tcpdump accepts, so you can easily filter by ports, addresses, interfaces, protocols and so on. It works independent from your packet filter, so it doesn't matter whether you use pf, ipf, ipfw or none at all. If you want to see the amount of accumulated traffic (i.e. since boot) per interface and per IP address, the commands "netstat -i" and "netstat -ib" will tell that (in packets and in bytes, respectively). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 10:33:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCF41065679 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927A78FC14 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:33:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from working (pool-72-95-226-5.pitbpa.ftas.verizon.net [72.95.226.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 826F8EBC0A; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:33:16 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Pierre-Luc Drouin Message-Id: <20091008063316.6adb9fb1.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <4ACD5B80.9030703@pldrouin.net> References: <4ACD5B80.9030703@pldrouin.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When is it worth enabling hyperthreading? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:33:40 -0000 Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > > Hi, > > Could someone explain me in which cases it is useful to enable > hyperthreading on a machine running FreeBSD 8.0 and in which other cases > it is not a good idea? Is that possible that hyperthreading is > disadvantageous unless the number of active (non-sleeping) threads is > really high? > > For example, if I have an i7 CPU with 4 physical cores and that I run > some multi-threaded code that has only 4 threads, it will run almost > always (twice) slower with hyperthreading enabled than when I disable it > in the BIOS. If I understand correctly, hyperthreading has the advantage > of being able to do CPU context switching faster than the OS, but it > does this context switching systematically instead of only when > requested, so it slows things down unless the number of running > (non-sleeping) threads is greater or equal to let say the number of > physical threads x 1.5-1.75. I can't speak to the technical explanation, but I can give you my real- world experience. We asked this same question where I worked and had the time and ability to test it. What we found: * With hyperthreading on, workstations were more responsive to concurrent tasks. They weren't particularly faster at executing, but there were less incidents of a background task causing the UI to stall or stutter. * pgbench showed anywhere from 0% - 15% increased throughput. Kind of pathetic, but we never saw a workload on PostgreSQL that was hurt by turning hyperthreading on. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 10:40:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA5E10656A4 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zafiro17@gmail.com) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565488FC1B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB8199F9C for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:40:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web7.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.216]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:40:01 -0400 Received: by web7.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 890E1ABD98; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:40:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1254998401.8308.1338908859@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: DPk8JvAg+J5ZQQZdj8yeZCyYuuWqFME2nh9I+UoknuMa 1254998401 From: "Randall Wood" To: "freebsdquestions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:40:01 +0100 Subject: Live CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: zafiro17@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:40:02 -0000 Greetings - I've got a new Netbook I'm itching to install FreeBSD on, and would prefer to avoid hassles by testing out the hardware with a LiveCD first. FreeSBIE seemed like an appropriate choice, but the website is out of commission, and what I read on the web seems to indicate the project is no longer maintained. There's the FreeBSD Live CD project, run by a Brazilian users' group, but it looks more complicated than I'd prefer. And I just discovered, through a posting on the Daemon Forums, the RoFreeSBIE project, run by some Romanians. Where to start? I'm aware of the FreeBSD integrated fixit mode, but that's not what I'm looking for. I am looking for the FreeBSD equivalent of Knoppix Linux, which will run a graphical desktop and give me an idea if FreeBSD can work with my Atom dual core processor, Intel onboard NIC and Wireless, the dinky little webcam, and so on, even hardware that I wouldn't be able to identify by name in order to search the web for info. Has anybody had good or bad experiences with any of the above methods? A search of recent posts from this mailing list turned up precious little, and the RoFreeSBIE site looks very interesting. That's probably where I would start, but like I said, I'm curious to see if anyone on this list has had experience and would like to make recommendations. Otherwise, I'll let you know how it goes! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 11:19:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBAF51065672 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmontalvo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f186.google.com (mail-yw0-f186.google.com [209.85.211.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2248FC1B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh16 with SMTP id 16so5231786ywh.13 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:19:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Lf34nnfrlEE9mrfUMs6lprP1Zw3UHWG2ZMew2+yH4sw=; b=Yo4Uzap63PPmlIKRo/czFVVFCKqD8YoWdQ+5RpOlnpIl6RFfbcmPP5oXIJDM3lMdFu bxQr6fKBqZ7e/eqf0ju8g58QTpXPEnxubNh3oagI1g7vOa8joJPqsmDPvNzXlTnPlhxm LPYn3TRgwUWDV7/rKGNG+eHoPc5Z9ouoO3esw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=BereGQbIIzYzmE67MrcnaUIrcinemcZWQHIuPCVK7arNqupVH/2bJV8I475DfqYj9h rBDtoDy6EG4PGsUGTYzq1RAvwjT0XQJAJzDUqPo/a/eIpgtjuFEz22DEDbsMYufE5ZZH aIYiE2x3/mfH/lRl7gFs3knGOULGtKHmasZro= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.52.2 with SMTP id z2mr1188079anz.136.1255000797058; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:19:57 -0700 Message-ID: From: Diego Montalvo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: It Happens With Time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:19:58 -0000 May not be the most brilliant FreeBSD user, but knew at one point some of the boys working for X linux would jump ship. Well it is official "Debian pushes development of kFreeBSD port" link here http://urloid.com/bsd1 Not breaking down Debian, I would probably use them if I used Linux on my servers, but it goes to show that Linux is not all that and perhaps FreeBSD is all that! FreeBSD is the shit! Support BSD by purchasing a BSD Magazine! More Info here: http://urloid.com/build2 Lovely Day for a Guinness or FreeBSD! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 12:22:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C1B106566B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A8178FC1D for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:22:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3276 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Oct 2009 12:22:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255004573; bh=IVM11s+ztnaMk2jXvDkJ1q19NeiSAvUGqflrIlp+O1o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LM+csrRNJRF8lqrq0vwCWP53RYXGyNKqM9BpjOzJubhE0LI1CyY7Sum51nTj/I+PfjALH2DiMuI1EhgbX1eJ77nxjyeSiL/hzDliItZ4cX9kGWvNmZlF6vAEvBWZEQDgGhDJof+5rgPhzI/xr1Gqg0Eor3sGgZSVMk4PPxA/kKg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HTUyJQB306VnHSSfYeOlD6X8kdf6dkT+qAhhV1jR5VhvhLdu/9Ce8XLXbAxQkYkd8R6zwna6NTiKXYC/jJRrjNzS8w+2z1GO0KQPuqzCzZ2J8vvgZ7eAaATtacfWs99HXrs7F3hlX6ppSpk3X5StJ8l0Of93cU25qIq8dyBopP0=; Message-ID: <252567.98979.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 9K4.NmYVM1mGQQaptzE777UuMbcja6kyjiF7ILExwQTnVR9RdKmjAOQz4kKYn6ETuG8TKhY.5HeAFPUAhz.k05W58A9m6MbsbwBJ1yGgzldmX9cgArzabJLxfBACDg.DPeqVggwn5KMzlM9NsV.7bVBKu7G1B2lozLqJ9gg6PmQwrIF1A8X18qgG5zd3w03EHR6xa2MZhSPsHZzXg664WB5dci_7AjDIfMjxye0fLeV02INyji2eY1mqvuYkW.yEwpQ_u2DhaL8ZyBNiB0SKveM06P8AKzI2xphRsRwn6DXaVw2pe3_ahN8Mr1fe9k9lsYZLYUSh3kTyzjmtcJzqA9i0a5fa7hRoC4bUhov5lpgvHY5E4Vr8ziX6wiLo6CK3cGCAkrX6kelWtc03DszR Received: from [67.204.12.34] by web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:22:53 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/182.10 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 05:22:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Multihome on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:22:55 -0000 Hi, I have a DELL server with dual port nic card on it. The NICs are connected to the same VLAN. I would like to configure the server so that both NIC cards are redundant that if one goes down the second one would pick up and continue. So I would need both ports to be configured with the same IP addresses of the server. Is there something that I need to configure or add to /etc/rc.conf? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 12:38:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FBB106566B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:38:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E4FB8FC24 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 47330 invoked by uid 89); 8 Oct 2009 12:38:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 8 Oct 2009 12:38:21 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACDDD54.5030401@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:38:44 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aflatoon Aflatooni References: <252567.98979.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <252567.98979.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multihome on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:38:40 -0000 Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Hi, > I have a DELL server with dual port nic card on it. The NICs are connected to the same VLAN. > I would like to configure the server so that both NIC cards are redundant that if one goes down the second one would pick up and continue. So I would need both ports to be configured with the same IP addresses of the server. Is there something that I need to configure or add to /etc/rc.conf? You may want to look at lagg(4) in LACP mode: %grep lagg /etc/rc.conf cloned_interfaces="lagg0" ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto lacp laggport re0 laggport age0" ipv4_addrs_lagg0="208.70.104.110/25" Your switch will need to be capable of LACP as well, and be configured in a similar manner. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 12:38:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED6B1065672 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valentin.bud@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271108FC12 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so4637299bwz.43 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:38:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=FYcOK6xg1icajLyCxDPG8UrnCvagRaZRbgeWAojhUng=; b=J118vjPg+LNA/qXpo78WvvNiteEmFMkL9k7qZlYro6/fGMYsaNsDZUb9DsThjdX7I0 hMU2B9oPeqJFtbDzNJBpGG4hbsuC0m4BTtLbzOk3fekbFZC4QFQdVZ0pS3oEHGHy8Uoa v43WEDYBpYt/KeEN25wkIUZeZqR9sNM12zfwg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=S9egYtR9WMyN9ca3zkTui2mfJQzZCdQA03xQHncTqYTd7RhNjmS48bimjE5zsvVIRE 6QuWDjUYIB9qO9Xno9wf/gjU8fWv0k9/LvjFZnYBVw67Zqrs7w3U1nIaTBZldPMsK+Si JO54/U6HLgTx2Vs5vArWfjZa70faIeuT74huI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.102.197.11 with SMTP id u11mr494456muf.97.1255005534058; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:38:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <252567.98979.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <252567.98979.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> From: Valentin Bud Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:38:34 +0300 Message-ID: <139b44430910080538r28ad4207q46fa3886241d3f7d@mail.gmail.com> To: Aflatoon Aflatooni Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multihome on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:38:55 -0000 On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Hi, > I have a DELL server with dual port nic card on it. The NICs are connected > to the same VLAN. > I would like to configure the server so that both NIC cards are redundant > that if one goes down the second one would pick up and continue. So I would > need both ports to be configured with the same IP addresses of the server. > Is there something that I need to configure or add to /etc/rc.conf? > > Thanks > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hello Aflatoon, Take a look at lagg(4). I think that's what you need. a great day, v -- network warrior since 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 14:19:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B161065672; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixmania@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f227.google.com (mail-bw0-f227.google.com [209.85.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BD98FC17; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:19:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz27 with SMTP id 27so4713165bwz.43 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:19:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cfAoRTMcmJMm56WcKIQQDmhN0xcEG/lBHlbwBwxrMU8=; b=TubdJqWDJ+lIeKXSLdOP5DJpx1427uzDwUlHjO92Pn7SRC2z9l4PI+XP1yMzYP1wOg vENu35UMPXGPHBFUvE3cO/+RdoBwvAS7xoO2mDONw0mfrPER+X0YEyqj2BSKaej7NjvY Ww37lZ67cVm6uXZkxRCGRH7KRmuhHLKta3E4U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OCFcOzVSONz0A+T3yOVYznKGC+ielbJMIvsOMDn1DFcE2wclmYqiKes01z153sGRnn TLG4fPKwuogbikLxXgmNUgWx4r2pp3LojiGut70O9FLrwyrmjeWuUDhk6Ql0ZhF9mGX8 Yqd1h4m3owsQKxH6QYGhVBvO9P/V6KN9u4x7Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.190.227 with SMTP id y35mr89261hbh.61.1255011540345; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:19:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091007184310.GC19063@guilt.hydra> References: <20090930100658.GA99090@obspm.fr> <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> <20091001111417.GF50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001112323.GA26407@droso.net> <20091001114546.GH50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001213656.GA14925@lonesome.com> <20091002133231.GA17567@hades.panopticon> <747dc8f30910061024h5346b25evd27369955f9d6768@mail.gmail.com> <20091007184310.GC19063@guilt.hydra> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:19:00 -0300 Message-ID: From: "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" To: ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:19:02 -0000 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 01:25:35PM -0300, Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote: >> >> You can fork the code, rename it, whatever, but you can NOT change >> the license without explicit permission from the original copyright >> owner. That would be legally considered theft! > > Incorrect. =A0It would be legally considered copyright infringement. > Copyright law is not property law, and both different laws *and* > different terms apply. =A0"Theft" is not a term legally applied to > copyright infringement -- at least, in any jurisdiction of which I'm even > vaguely aware of the state of copyright law. > > "That would be legally considered copyright infringement!" I was referring to stealing intellectual property, which can be a synonym of copyright violation, depending on the country law. In my country, for instance, computer programs are considered intellectual property but they are also subjected to author rights, just like books and paintings [1,2] . > There. =A0I fixed it for you. Thanks for the clarification, anyway. References (in Portuguese) [1] http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/Leis/L9609.htm [2] http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/Leis/L9610.htm --=20 My preferred quotation of Robert Louis Stevenson is "You cannot make an omelette without breaking eggs". Not because I like the omelettes, but because I like the sound of eggs being broken. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 17:15:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8856106566B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:15:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from n13b.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n13b.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 829268FC19 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [68.142.200.227] by n13.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2009 17:03:11 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.72] by t8.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2009 17:03:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp424.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2009 17:03:11 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 915435.10826.bm@omp424.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 31435 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2009 17:03:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=i8C+BCyaeWXK0/TSyApX+gyo6VKPQ3WadFfcLk5Ok4Ji74pt/7LO8iG2dxRM9CAvIvqnnVghNTMHBoC3WqUCeUE3RlAPSA7PqI9EtJYadre3+EFODaMsBTyBObVEZbGbUCQNPGyGZVDSu19mt6B218MNxvMzWvQqY25nZ+c0adQ= ; Received: from (jekillen@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp109.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Oct 2009 10:03:11 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: 46rcWa.swBDnY9zvhIrsU2awgPSTQgUKFFrFJjEU8wwG X-YMail-OSG: RfsLl1EVM1mus9mWD0b3Gx4wv6MIuVznf8bTnJv9WQZh.qYBuTXUYKFMhXu0cr5aUejru2Ouk8RCvl89PdAf4ScE7c4Oxg66BcSkXqWtdrWQrpjbGaYfRRYh2Hikp8f2mjnzClF7CZLkHpa.86EjH_lTdS2caHDf3B09aBoqZ8cHTSWdLQnIdhO5rkXLjK4.SMjmqaxqZhLVY6pR3UDXvxKSbxvfwrrN3tem9CTDUA15Yrces4qKyp0bE3UfbvKtLQtoxZUD2fn0V0MT4c9jUwM6KTNssEB5sy2E X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jeffry killen Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:02:43 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Subject: salvaging hard drive contents X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:15:46 -0000 > Hello; > I have a hard drive that contains the /var file system in a system that > will not boot. > In single user mode I can mount /var. > > I want to take this disk and put it in another FreeBSD system and > try to copy the files I need off of it to a safe place. > > The system I will plug it into will also have a separate disk with > /var. > > Is there going to be a conflict with the labels and how would I > best go about this? response to above query------------------- There will be no conflict. All the magic as to 'wher to mout what' is in the /etc/fstab file. because it doesn't know about the disk you're adding, ther won'tbe any conflicts. Simply use the long form of mount(1), to wit: "mount devicename mountpoint", and mount it on any convenient location, say '/mnt'. -------------- Now I have the hard disk I want to recover mounted but please for give me for being in the learning phase, but how to I cd on to this drive? I mounted it using the suggested 'mount -r (in this case ad12s1d) /var' now how do I actually read it? I tried cd ad12s1d/var and I got the 'file does not exist' response. If I do cd /; ls -la I do not see an added entry. Thanks for suggestions, info, etc Jeff K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 18:51:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F5C1065670 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 18:51:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DCA8FC12 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 18:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n98IpAJm024452; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:51:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n98IpAKV024449; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:51:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 12:51:10 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: jeffry killen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:51:11 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: salvaging hard drive contents X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:51:12 -0000 On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, jeffry killen wrote: > Now I have the hard disk I want to recover mounted but please for give me > for being in the learning phase, but how to I cd on to this drive? > > I mounted it using the suggested 'mount -r (in this case ad12s1d) /var' > now how do I actually read it? What you've done there is mount your salvage drive over your running system's /var. That's probably going to give you problems, possibly very quickly. Just umounting the incorrect /var is probably not going to be enough. You might have to reboot. Once that's cleared up, use a mountpoint that's not doing anything. /mnt is commonly used for that. mount -r /dev/ad12s1d /mnt Then /mnt contains the salvage drive's var filesystem: cd /mnt ls -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 19:37:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13491065679 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:37:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@pldrouin.net) Received: from smtp.cyberfingers.net (smtp.cyberfingers.net [198.177.254.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7388FC13 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:37:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mdaemon.pldrouin.net (pldrouinlap2-pc.physics.carleton.ca [134.117.23.34]) by smtp.cyberfingers.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273E2AB6C0F for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:34:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4ACE3F95.7030005@pldrouin.net> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:37:57 -0400 From: Pierre-Luc Drouin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4ACE293B.8050201@pldrouin.net> In-Reply-To: <4ACE293B.8050201@pldrouin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: STOP state in top + segmentation fault and core dump? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:37:37 -0000 Hi, When I run many heavily multi-threaded (1000+ threads/process) and memory intensive (1800 MB+/process) processes on FreeBSD 8.0 amd64, some of them get in STOP state in top and then seg fault and core dump. Are stop states in top caused by seg faults or it is the OS that stops the processes because they exceed some limit? I do not see any message about any limit being exceeded. The machine has 12GB of memory so it should be able to sustain 4 processes using 1800MB each of memory I guess (I have 12 GB of swap space anyway but it stays unused). Everything runs fine if I run a single process and I have never encountered such problems when running these on Linux. Anyone has an idea? I am using the default limits right now: >limit cputime unlimited filesize unlimited datasize 33554432 kbytes stacksize 524288 kbytes coredumpsize unlimited memoryuse unlimited vmemoryuse unlimited descriptors 11095 memorylocked unlimited maxproc 5547 sbsize unlimited swapsize unlimited Thank you! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 20:22:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6A1106568B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from EXFESMQ01.datapipe-corp.net (exchange.datapipe.net [64.106.130.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A6F8FC19 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.5.21.3] (192.168.128.24) by EXFESMQ01.datapipe-corp.net (64.106.130.71) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.393.1; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:12:09 -0400 Message-ID: <4ACE477E.1080107@datapipe.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:11:42 -0500 From: Paul Procacci User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: MAC and JAILS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:22:39 -0000 Hey all, I'm trying to implement MAC within jails. however any attempt to do this from directly within the jail results in "Operation not Permitted" messages. With that, I assume root within the jail doesn't have any capabliities of defining his own policies. Can anyone confirm (or deny) this? Thanks, Paul This message may contain confidential or privileged information. If you ar= e not the intended recipient, please advise us immediately and delete this = message. See http://www.datapipe.com/emaildisclaimer.aspx for further info= rmation on confidentiality and the risks of non-secure electronic communica= tion. If you cannot access these links, please notify us by reply message a= nd we will send the contents to you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 20:49:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65ABD106566B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dot@kkursor.ru) Received: from mx.2com.ru (mx.2com.ru [80.253.27.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AFA8FC0A for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dot.kkursor.ru (home-pool-183-20.com2com.ru [195.98.183.20] (may be forged)) by mx.2com.ru (8.6.1/8.6.1) with ESMTP id n98KJ01q075095 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:19:02 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from dot@kkursor.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dot.kkursor.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0763D1C9F0 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:17:25 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [192.168.0.120] (unknown [192.168.0.120]) by dot.kkursor.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E101C9CF for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 00:17:24 +0400 (MSD) From: ".kkursor" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:23:27 +0400 Message-Id: <1255033407.16179.10.camel@notebook> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: dot@kkursor.ru X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 10098 [Oct 08 2009] X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-SPF: none X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0284], KAS30/Release Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD 7.1 as a router - poor download speed, but normal upload X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:49:02 -0000 Hello everybody! Please help me if you can. I have a home server built on Gigabyte MiniITX motherboard with VIA C3 800MHz CPU and 512M RAM aboard. The server acts as a file server, torrent downloader, router and mail and HTTP server. I have a PPTP connection to my ISP through the integrated network card. The network configuration is: [0:04] kkursor@dot.kkursor.ru ~ # ifconfig rl0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:19:cb:54:c6:15 inet 192.168.0.26 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active rl1: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 00:0f:ea:e2:cd:e0 inet 192.168.158.102 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.158.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 tun0: flags=8051 metric 0 mtu 1500 inet 195.98.183.20 --> 172.30.96.1 netmask 0xffffffff Opened by PID 73795 tun1: flags=8010 metric 0 mtu 1500 rl1 is integrated network card and rl0 is an additional PCI NIC which is inserted into the only PCI slot on the motherboard. Connection to ISP is done over rl1 using port pptp-client. The problem is that there is very low download speed. My ISP provides symmetric 4Mbps line, but download speed is poor - about 1 Mbps. Upload speed is OK. I called ISP, they asked me to connect WinXP computer and measure speed. It was normal, therefore there is an issue in my server. If you could point me in the right direction, it would be wonderful. Thank you very much for your work! With best regards and looking forward for answer, Kirill Sarksyan, Russian Federation From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 21:06:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA871065676 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1ED88FC16 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so216099bwz.43 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:06:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=n3nZ6MbQV4Fqrb90p1pvtN5kKnNpRuurfS0fTRzk2ac=; b=LrHAQIRS8/9skia6LsqRCzlSnirVzPT6Swnqcn665ltY7/ocJoml9zm20D4sKqsUbj 8rJYj/gRl3+HflM+oZ56cB8ilw25kZ6hJSCOxUUDglSdXlpqPIGuqPsYE0kLdehq7gyg RnOhpP4UvJ0moIs6x0oztvxm9Wi2/EyFVWjqA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=tAIUZi/vQTAJCIXT2hztmJePytLo80nC5CnvYkLwXgVXjVb1bkpvVoBKSp02Wk94nM HQc8IaVb50ZepqZczmcbl8QcsQ8j5plzS8vJiEY1MpyBIOiVITX2w6yRkusDfytbGlJo aYG19vkdZ0RfLNUPWeJvHeBxmCRaOseTKyVK4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.85.28 with SMTP id n28mr709698mul.66.1255035963250; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:06:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1255033407.16179.10.camel@notebook> References: <1255033407.16179.10.camel@notebook> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:06:03 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: ".kkursor" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 as a router - poor download speed, but normal upload X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:06:05 -0000 2009/10/8 .kkursor > Hello everybody! Please help me if you can. > I have a home server built on Gigabyte MiniITX motherboard with VIA C3 > 800MHz CPU and 512M RAM aboard. The server acts as a file server, > torrent downloader, router and mail and HTTP server. > I have a PPTP connection to my ISP through the integrated network card. > The network configuration is: > > [0:04] kkursor@dot.kkursor.ru ~ # ifconfig > rl0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > 1500 > options=8 > ether 00:19:cb:54:c6:15 > inet 192.168.0.26 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > rl1: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > 1500 > options=8 > ether 00:0f:ea:e2:cd:e0 > inet 192.168.158.102 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.158.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > tun0: flags=8051 metric 0 mtu 1500 > inet 195.98.183.20 --> 172.30.96.1 netmask 0xffffffff > Opened by PID 73795 > tun1: flags=8010 metric 0 mtu 1500 > > rl1 is integrated network card and rl0 is an additional PCI NIC which is > inserted into the only PCI slot on the motherboard. Connection to ISP is > done over rl1 using port pptp-client. > The problem is that there is very low download speed. My ISP provides > symmetric 4Mbps line, but download speed is poor - about 1 Mbps. Upload > speed is OK. I called ISP, they asked me to connect WinXP computer and > measure speed. It was normal, therefore there is an issue in my server. > If you could point me in the right direction, it would be wonderful. > Thank you very much for your work! > > With best regards and looking forward for answer, > Kirill Sarksyan, Russian Federation > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > try turning the mtu on the tun0 interface to 1492. If it doent help try a much lower setting eg 1450. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 21:20:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2911065670 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy1.bredband.net (proxy1.bredband.net [195.54.101.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77F08FC14 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from iph2.telenor.se (195.54.127.133) by proxy1.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AC2562E00362EB2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:20:08 +0200 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj1JABf0zUpV4jsLPGdsb2JhbACBUpknAQEBATe/F4QqBIFY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,527,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="51975465" Received: from c-0b3be255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.59.11]) by iph2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 08 Oct 2009 23:20:08 +0200 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n98LK1ii037510 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:20:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <4ACE5781.8040105@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:20:01 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090912) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1255033407.16179.10.camel@notebook> In-Reply-To: <1255033407.16179.10.camel@notebook> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 as a router - poor download speed, but normal upload X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:20:10 -0000 .kkursor wrote: > Hello everybody! Please help me if you can. > I have a home server built on Gigabyte MiniITX motherboard with VIA C3 > 800MHz CPU and 512M RAM aboard. The server acts as a file server, > torrent downloader, router and mail and HTTP server. > I have a PPTP connection to my ISP through the integrated network card. > The network configuration is: > > [0:04] kkursor@dot.kkursor.ru ~ # ifconfig > rl0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > 1500 > options=8 > ether 00:19:cb:54:c6:15 > inet 192.168.0.26 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > rl1: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > 1500 > options=8 > ether 00:0f:ea:e2:cd:e0 > inet 192.168.158.102 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.158.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > tun0: flags=8051 metric 0 mtu 1500 > inet 195.98.183.20 --> 172.30.96.1 netmask 0xffffffff > Opened by PID 73795 > tun1: flags=8010 metric 0 mtu 1500 > > rl1 is integrated network card and rl0 is an additional PCI NIC which is > inserted into the only PCI slot on the motherboard. Connection to ISP is > done over rl1 using port pptp-client. > The problem is that there is very low download speed. My ISP provides > symmetric 4Mbps line, but download speed is poor - about 1 Mbps. Upload > speed is OK. I called ISP, they asked me to connect WinXP computer and > measure speed. It was normal, therefore there is an issue in my server. > If you could point me in the right direction, it would be wonderful. > Thank you very much for your work! > > With best regards and looking forward for answer, > Kirill Sarksyan, Russian Federation Did you really saturate your upload while testing your download speed in WinXP? What you're describing is a common problem with how TCP works especially on (but not limited to) assymetric connections. I use the technique described by Daniel Hartmeier to circumvent it and can fully utilize my upload and download simultaneously. http://www.benzedrine.cx/ackpri.html /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 23:13:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312201065672 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:13:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-145.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-145.bluehost.com [67.222.38.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F23D48FC16 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21850 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 2009 23:12:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 23:12:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=BFsGj4eBcuZXNPFO+TxMD63fZmSO97fPhgOgUAzzRjRfG7tmU75LCiQng7r3dpOuQRTPLHduZddGOEK8d0vLoM9/wecs1RtmO3nVOvH6s5s9/xnHz/SfJGu/TUdxM0BE; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mw2AM-0007gI-LC; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:12:59 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:05:33 -0600 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:05:33 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091008230533.GA32736@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090930161915.GA18014@lonesome.com> <20091001111417.GF50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001112323.GA26407@droso.net> <20091001114546.GH50565@hades.panopticon> <20091001213656.GA14925@lonesome.com> <20091002133231.GA17567@hades.panopticon> <747dc8f30910061024h5346b25evd27369955f9d6768@mail.gmail.com> <20091007184310.GC19063@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:13:00 -0000 --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 11:19:00AM -0300, Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 01:25:35PM -0300, Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote: > >> > >> You can fork the code, rename it, whatever, but you can NOT change > >> the license without explicit permission from the original copyright > >> owner. That would be legally considered theft! > > > > Incorrect. =A0It would be legally considered copyright infringement. > > Copyright law is not property law, and both different laws *and* > > different terms apply. =A0"Theft" is not a term legally applied to > > copyright infringement -- at least, in any jurisdiction of which I'm ev= en > > vaguely aware of the state of copyright law. > > > > "That would be legally considered copyright infringement!" >=20 > I was referring to stealing intellectual property, which can be a > synonym of copyright violation, depending on the country law. In my > country, for instance, computer programs are considered intellectual > property but they are also subjected to author rights, just like books > and paintings [1,2] . The term "Intellectual Property" is essentially an invention of people who wished copyright, patent, and trademark bodies of law were treated more like actual property law. Saying something is "intellectual property" sure makes it *sound* like violating the relevant law should be called "stealing", but it's still not theft under the law (unless you happen to live in some jurisdiction that treats this stuff in a very nonstandard manner -- I can't speak for all jurisdictions, since I know nothing about copyright law in Eritrea, for instance). Not only is copyright not *legally* considered theft, but it is not *practically* equivalent to theft, either. In theft, a person has a thing in his or her possession, and the thief takes it away. There is no thing in a copyright holder's possession that is taken away when copyright is infringed. The common excuse for calling it theft is reference to the copyright holder's profits being "stolen", but because those profits do not even exist yet at the time of the copyright infringement, they are not literally being "taken away". >=20 > References (in Portuguese) >=20 > [1] http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/Leis/L9609.htm > [2] http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/Leis/L9610.htm Alas, I do not read Portuguese. Maybe in Portugal the word for "theft" is defined differently than here, so that it applies not to property per se, but to any illegal act of acquisition; that is not a jurisdiction whose copyright laws are familiar to me. I rather doubt it, though, because a legal definition of theft that is applicable to copyright would fail to account for actual theft of actual property of naturally limited abundance. Given an example with which I am more familiar (the United States), though, I cite Dowling v. US: The infringer invades a statutorily defined province guaranteed to the copyright holder alone. But he does not assume physical control over the copyright; nor does he wholly deprive its owner of its use. Dowling v. US specfically set forth for those who wished to define bootleg recordings as "stolen property" the details for why this was not an appropriate definition, and rejected outright and in all its particulars the concept that copyright infringement is theft in any legal sense of the term. The reasoning is summed up in the above two-sentence quote from the Dowling v. US decision. The economic principle that differentiates copyright infringement from property theft is that of rivalry. A rival good is one whose use by one consumer prevents the use by another, whereas a nonrival good is one whose use by one consumer does not interfere with the use by another. Copyright infringement is illegal acquisition, by a consumer, of a nonrival good; property theft is illegal acquisition, by a consumer, of a rival good. Copyright violation does not deprive anyone else of the opportunity to acquire or use the good in question, whereas property theft *does*, accounting for the differences of legal status for acquisition between rival and nonrival goods. Thomas Jefferson, in discussions of the idea of copyright and patent law before such were even included in the US Constitution, made this distinction as well: He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrOcD0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVb+wCdE8aX1Oc0mlUIuZdGx8ZbzhZO iBoAoKpet/O4hjECLxTNBhhQNd2bo48m =i5qB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 8 23:52:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06D1106566B for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: from web57006.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57006.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 723148FC0C for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 55050 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Oct 2009 23:25:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255044326; bh=xWqk1GJSmNai7L71X7JYoQwT73IE6oVvzmAB3BZHtCw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ioOGDRwtT8MdkWODIuxmW3FvkQHpZWpi22hdOKx5p3m2dXQv2o4ROwy5ynByKbZ5H+UdqUJb2N05DpHxny8MtuBl/NMR3J14ZXWBzSJSEqN8v+0GNp0O7ej7sWkQ3fOnZxYZOEmLApJdnKkQAsds+2dcBNqoTmyHwa6zhZowcVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nCBINIeBk6ASfbsTM6JYyvlGx85EaeyDk6TSgU4F8n1iLttIDk8sj6ovQ6JI7K7H8MNySKs1eEC01Ol6lkW+1gmGQZLi8+BroeQpejpU43ibAulmLYYefzbmNT+hFDQEEOdueyQAMOlswAGLyaOvsIyCeGy+zMCBDAdJMqgYdhg=; Message-ID: <314361.54872.qm@web57006.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: w7ZBv_sVM1nYH.LJRNqKMbEAg9uSlns.JcSX0_n1okTTxRn8VOjQXby1eGHAxq7WPCf3lC2VCmZhX99SDtis3EbkvrzTqM4MoMj3Ybr4zt0yMFfKFTxoz7IKpkjnlBRHTxg_DIGZ1Hx6_wHjX7P.XoASp6GW.cZOJg5JOVYW93zubKLVDpimkp_6vdQYqs2laYTxBcPrBnY6nxa8TrK1x.OPMbzCjZn4kIBkIomAQCQiugrLWpGCoemnUbFy1Dqn7q2HWbAzpzkTogu0ubiJnOQLAzbQS_vRJkvwoq0A2SzNOcjyuF9h9VDKT3BHIfFiCSTsK3pWJ8CcewPIVoEIb.dTPmbJt4Rt23FBSQnln50aDALF4a_l5bSRpSk2vZ2pcEOy29lX_VgcuP_7daCP0tw- Received: from [76.202.135.125] by web57006.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:25:26 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:25:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David LeCount To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Trouble getting new raid array to boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:52:08 -0000 I just built an aac raid array. I partitioned the disk, set the partition as active, and copied all my files to it with tar. I changed fstab on the new drive to reflect the changes. When I try to boot to the array, it says invalid partition. I've tried typing everything I could as the partition but they all fail. I was going to try making a new install on the new partition and then copy everything but I'm having unrelated problems with my burner. What do I need to do to get this thing to boot up? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 02:38:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036641065692 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from relay03.mail-hub.dodo.com.au (relay03.mail-hub.dodo.com.au [123.2.6.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81878FC15 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 122-148-122-57.static.dsl.dodo.com.au ([122.148.122.57] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by relay03.mail-hub.dodo.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Mw4zK-0000bk-Uh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:13:47 +1100 Message-ID: <4ACE9CC3.7050806@maydias.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:15:31 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090410) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Error Compiling qt4-dbus X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:38:38 -0000 Running AMD64 7.2-STABLE src & kernel upto date an trying to get ports updated when encountering the below issue which is now affecting a lot of programs.. -------------------------------- cd "/usr/ports/devel/dbus-qt4/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.2/./tools/qdbus/qdbus" make first c++ -c -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -O2 -Wall -W -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_XML_LIB -DQT_CORE_LIB -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/local/share/qt4/mkspecs/freebsd-g++ -I. -I../../../include/QtCore -I../../../include/QtXml -I../../../include -I../../../include/QtDBus -I.moc/release-shared -I/usr/local/include -o .obj/release-shared/qdbus.o qdbus.cpp g++ -Wl,-O1 -pthread -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib/qt4 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib/qt4 -o ../../../bin/qdbus .obj/release-shared/qdbus.o -L/usr/local/lib/qt4 -L/usr/ports/devel/dbus-qt4/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.2/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lQtDBus -L/usr/local/lib/qt4 -L/usr/local/lib -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -lQtXml -pthread -pthread -lQtCore -lz -lm -pthread -lgthread-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -liconv .obj/release-shared/qdbus.o(.text+0xdc): In function `printArg(QVariant const&)': : undefined reference to `QDBusUtil::argumentToString(QVariant const&)' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/dbus-qt4/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.2/tools/qdbus/qdbus. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/dbus-qt4/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.2/tools/qdbus/qdbus. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/dbus-qt4/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.2/tools/qdbus. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/dbus-qt4. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 02:50:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D3B106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B665B8FC17 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:50:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so6780315yxe.3 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:50:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=L/vRjTt4Bs9ccrG7N58veudfZ+0G2sWbwguINaAuQsY=; b=JIHDooeDxlHsSV7mlqV5X9wP7AWkFcLUZ5CNMHYVPDYHzYTLSidJu635h4l0o4iJgs 9vUZOPbKwi7QjhT3BEfPVA20Qh+Qs2+FIx4DoM6kVguiuVAq2gTf9nQegukKKIOC0QfS jGQfenYCem2bUwtM0CAbvYg0yI4VSg9UwGlkI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=GIc2RMU//9OrnxPlU+n+8T1QiyAHyo4Y8rQEralz7g8Y4fTALyixCT2Etf7P1Jo3re QmSVGnCVAFuJFXgytzY4Jb+zofcsrVn3yeq5hOAdbYVRFsP906IKFdQ+TupRe6oMp5tX mwvjZGxQeOfIt/9Tm6cRLSSl+5OTv+KA+2lC4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.79.13 with SMTP id g13mr2405549anl.40.1255056607975; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:50:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <314361.54872.qm@web57006.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <314361.54872.qm@web57006.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:50:07 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: David LeCount Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble getting new raid array to boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:50:09 -0000 On 10/8/09, David LeCount wrote: > I just built an aac raid array. I partitioned the disk, set the partition as > active, and copied all my files to it with tar. I changed fstab on the new > drive to reflect the changes. When I try to boot to the array, it says > invalid partition. I've tried typing everything I could as the partition but > they all fail. I was going to try making a new install on the new partition > and then copy everything but I'm having unrelated problems with my burner. > What do I need to do to get this thing to boot up? Is the aac driver in the kernel, or loaded as a kld before you get past the boot blocks, and loader? --TJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 02:57:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A721065670 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:57:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-ml@gehlbach.com) Received: from mail1.gehlbach.com (mail1.gehlbach.com [204.255.230.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D4C8FC12 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.gehlbach.com (localhost.gehlbach.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.gehlbach.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n992hXYT037987 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:43:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fbsd-ml@gehlbach.com) Received: from 204.255.230.80 (SquirrelMail authenticated user fbsd-ml) by mail1.gehlbach.com with HTTP; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <714a6980f53082ec41a527e44158128d.squirrel@mail1.gehlbach.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 22:43:33 -0400 (EDT) From: fbsd-ml@gehlbach.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Upgrade to 7.2 broke network connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:57:25 -0000 Today I updated a server from 6.4 to 7.2. I cvsup'ed, built world, built kernel, installed kernel, installed world, mergemastered, and rebooted. And sat there, while ntpdate timed out trying to connect to four different servers, while interface status messages slowly scrolled: tx0: device timeout 2 packets tx0: seems we can continue normally rl0: watchdog timeout When it finally timed out, and I logged in, I found that I could ping 127.0.0.1, I could ping 192.168.50.7 (tx0 interface), I could ping the rl0 wan interface, I could not ping the gateway or anything outside of the machine. Looking at dmesg later, I found the same timeout messages repeated again and again, and I found further error messages: tx0: reinitialization tx0: ERROR! Can't stop TxDMA tx0: ERROR! Unknown PHY selected and repeated periodically: tx0: reinitialization tx0: ERROR! Unknown PHY selected I built and installed the generic kernel, and tried again. Same deal. I disabled ipfilter and ntp in rc.conf, removed the configuration lines for all but one interface, and rebooted. Same deal, just shorter boot time without having to wait for ntpdate (grin) I thought, ok.....really old NICs. There were some warnings about deprecated features in bootup. I took out both NICs and put in an Intel Pro 10/100/1000 -- obviously supported. Same deal. I previously attempted to update this server several months ago, going from 6.something to 7.1, and had this same problem. After several frustrating days, I restored from backup and updated to latest 6.x, which worked fine. So I assume that I have something configured wrong. If there were hardware compatibility issues this big, this version would never have gone to stable, and people would be screaming about it all over the mailing lists. So my question is.....what should be my next troubleshooting step? Thanks for your time, Renee Gehlbach From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 03:05:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEC61065679 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 03:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: from web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C5398FC18 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 03:05:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 59181 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Oct 2009 03:05:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255057535; bh=ubCyvtltoJYMaoLGT8fF948vDIpobPqERd2B2SzEYHg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CONfTnNtoFitK55sJFPAHVfun6arlM8KR+sF886QgLEWRgBczH48fi+UPzw/hOfIVJJUQ+vWBModDJUn/L95OIAcWYP+ae+JX4WDDMfBMGE0u+/KeIrgs9ypxFW1EpBAUqdNOW7cz3cnZBJsBdYFT/SJEgIKPqExRUvF+m2tw/0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=C70VPJLXkUjSXvrr24z9JhZTmuFCgoi1W8OoTr8HZfFEdi1qfuFGxWW5YIB2muZngVRyyJRTMd2aojYQAjIIVwbgTdzonx3B3VR8+5TUMaBaHbKLS+ZWVuTIF/DcySJTPnhO51r+rrh45aAo60dhVdqR8ZrKIHvxlkAtc9WkGU4=; Message-ID: <362967.59148.qm@web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zeXYrFUVM1mH8qnsW8XW62Aq.SYNG24gzUxTc00PwBkaKgVo2vokTjm_78jHLWdi15Ez3R9pTQ59ofYb3WvM4DzjQ_djoBDVP6hrVe9r7Qbs8.W5.XN6i_V7ph9nLcMX3OR0gsRLjFUPmVdRDZWhXMhFbBFTc2hNdwxYZJMOrp4QD9YCCesWzv9hOr9kfogqeFQIzeh9gy08q9Yik3ynlyeS6RTZeK8OHmt5cUdAQbA7X61vAk7sIEbu1v0ykz9y0CtndRYOQej1N6476A24uhv9HYsNrJQ.jF0_nfG8XdzEIixp6y0xzbL6Ga5r6_g9zKi34sfNIctK3XMlPFGyTZodyryXNIDEYMFxMzCitQ1xW6H_vtPEJIaVU0mJs68- Received: from [76.202.135.125] by web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:05:35 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 20:05:35 -0700 (PDT) From: David LeCount To: Tim Judd , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: Trouble getting new raid array to boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:05:36 -0000 > Is the aac driver in the kernel, or loaded as a kld before > you get > past the boot blocks, and loader? It's built into the kernel. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 03:31:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071941065672 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 03:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f195.google.com (mail-qy0-f195.google.com [209.85.221.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28978FC17 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 03:31:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk33 with SMTP id 33so6727569qyk.29 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:31:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5rUnfmEOboCOJ/YBnUCJWvXMHmf3f8Gi89UVuMmJ1a8=; b=nb5V7g7/V1Nx92xuAOtoRFc/DI8FVjUpwW0TnwbWaqCk/ArDzDc9tGdpkUengB7QSe crLyRv4X1xNRjaVM3tYhHvTr0q2Ecz53RXmALG2LBYlRFvaD7VmMnJ/E2h3aEOySgSx5 eScEpayhCazit+eqo+DchWMUjtuXbBApuVfdY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oWBvCWhBYi9Y6ebAfc0QvDFjGcJkOuoTM0hxbc90TlDogAFMXRsxrg5+faTU2ykULV GSIfmuhiiXvqq4mCR2kw1rN6F8Ka2FPp1qjdkyX9dq7qTZD62eUj2BuwPxzGloioouCq ut38qyCmXYgzYUVGXLOUkMY8DiwHNUS1v7aBE= Received: by 10.224.52.221 with SMTP id j29mr2002476qag.347.1255058714901; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm250587qwh.29.2009.10.08.20.25.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ACEAD18.9070000@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:25:12 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090915) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to set device permissions at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:31:50 -0000 Since certain currently unused devices are not created in /dev (specifically in my case /dev/fuse*) how do I tell what ever (I can't tell it is devfs or what) to always make /dev/fuse* (when needed) with 777 perms (the security implications are not an issue here) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 03:41:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF28106568B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 03:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4578FC1B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 03:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so6806249yxe.3 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:41:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=HfKzy/wqU2HHKiX1viWtTg7h+PtInwktvEPUsrdwdEw=; b=sK764MpS6EzFCi97Y3+GSDxHhXx+MCQIVBn7UCn5AoQ/IGjf9ZAD+gwuMfDBEEnPZx Nwqu/6MgFTgge+WGZNR5jw8zKPzYNwkIVN7J2ehLjfbabUWb3G92kkqcoJ9fYck7t85D 9+X3eB+ufA+cJXhAqTRqhSBfWdBgzt2mH8U3o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ghfeiS27oReQMK0pwIjEFBqS5nsmlC293KxbEfcllZgBB+K4JV4R6CBWZ4WizzNKC8 PtnVMYkM1acU8zFIjyqZFHDv6mYrpKT0ZybhDC+yRIavKByqdRz1s/qTeJxi3dHIBD7j 7KwBQ+g7dgIZNJ2o8ngF8bg5I0bl0xDFfxT2E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.209.23 with SMTP id l23mr2344319anq.173.1255059665364; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:41:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <362967.59148.qm@web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <362967.59148.qm@web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:41:05 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: David LeCount Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trouble getting new raid array to boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:41:06 -0000 On 10/8/09, David LeCount wrote: >> Is the aac driver in the kernel, or loaded as a kld before >> you get >> past the boot blocks, and loader? > > It's built into the kernel. Then my answer would be missing MBR or boot blocks, an active partition alone won't make a system boot. it's just a flag to say which partition is bootable, but doesn't mean that the boot flag itself makes the partition boot. fdisk(8) and bsdlabel(8) -- see the -B option to both. If you have a dangerously dedicated disk, ignore fdisk. If you don't have a bsdlabel, ignore bsdlabel. I do both on any standard install. --TJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 05:52:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DEE106568F for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA3E8FC14 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:51:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so388917bwz.43 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:51:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references; bh=jRmWnVHVi4ekGpoa1ZdCAi3/DDZI8DxbVmRIO7Xg4NE=; b=h5J8t2rV2LtQqtMpRbYF2AccknIXrfhzK6d9fOQTF7egXfNDM85qadJK1a3gLmnbb0 kOZ/qdKxy6xZYDW8d4kBdGaECQvxKAdqQlbHji6JQX/vt/lriQqUSN4BO6R4urSdPcdz soUxsXw0rL2Yq7jhGX7i3gWt8/W6c/qj1zatQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; b=X9PJFrir5ACuj0WEywENO2vKnjOhlb00AiBGq2LZ7vlNMaoym7sdHIV+O/sjORmlAR 2TlUPQ4FcfRomv4xvSq7TehllKhWEgWFk6vwspgRZcgpzktUrqDekY4TXGvRSmLeJkk/ 0cXhl3eILQoJEbOC2/8stzA5xkRpEPQpQGho0= Received: by 10.103.78.35 with SMTP id f35mr885440mul.89.1255067518636; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?91.141.108.101? (091-141-108-101.dyn.orange.at [91.141.108.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i5sm2321064mue.38.2009.10.08.22.51.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <8C7C81E1-2E6E-4802-B692-4A8198877208@gmail.com> From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <4ACEAD18.9070000@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:50:13 +0200 References: <4ACEAD18.9070000@gmail.com> Subject: Re: How to set device permissions at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 05:52:00 -0000 Den 9. okt. 2009 kl. 05.25 skrev "Aryeh M. Friedman" : > Since certain currently unused devices are not created in /dev > (specifically in my case /dev/fuse*) how do I tell what ever (I > can't tell it is devfs or what) to always make /dev/fuse* (when > needed) with 777 perms (the security implications are not an issue > here) Have you tried devfs.rules(5)? -Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 05:58:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D51E1065672 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:58:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8788FC19 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:58:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from current.Sisis.de (ppp-62-216-210-238.dynamic.mnet-online.de [62.216.210.238]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887C2186532E1 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:58:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n995wHD3002458 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:58:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:58:17 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091009055817.GA2420@current.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Subject: tar --unlink ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 05:58:17 -0000 Hello, To move a file tree from one place to another I see as an example: # tar -cf - local | tar --unlink -xpf - -C /mnt What does '--unlink' do exactly? I can't see it in the man page of tar(1). Thanks in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU's Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 05:59:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3861065693 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f195.google.com (mail-qy0-f195.google.com [209.85.221.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35DB8FC0C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:59:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk33 with SMTP id 33so6793450qyk.29 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:59:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XHPfCvMH0kyrHRlDOfbPP6Zu7XdRitPBskgxgd1o9BA=; b=GnaYMs1FjUryLuO0OtHfWrZKMAN+N6G++CccMRHZSmFNPFS2aBeFQ4IOrvwQ3l3d2c pbprqduDF4UgIjbxgiCq0OJWk1fA+LGQs9vhPQGknhkGXDjGlLfQxGC8SVppiXBO1/gT FS8n6JJYBo0uSdm+i6koiYwF4Jy6pcmqyUNS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kFbh76AybNaH4RAD+btvueHIQSCfhNRAUje5wtJlH1A+Mfzxzyqypq7smlwEwijV87 spywQ6Vkc5n0XqP9LPLFdDhN/tnrxshq/cUx9TCieaZPMGx1lhKVAuOn5t6UC1o3uMyZ tKkl/kQuJrjnRjtu7y1mu/J9A8LYIx7PGrSgo= Received: by 10.224.58.73 with SMTP id f9mr2162144qah.61.1255067992120; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm14058qwk.26.2009.10.08.22.59.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ACED156.1030609@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:59:50 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090915) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" References: <4ACEAD18.9070000@gmail.com> <8C7C81E1-2E6E-4802-B692-4A8198877208@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8C7C81E1-2E6E-4802-B692-4A8198877208@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to set device permissions at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 05:59:53 -0000 Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > Den 9. okt. 2009 kl. 05.25 skrev "Aryeh M. Friedman" > : > >> Since certain currently unused devices are not created in /dev >> (specifically in my case /dev/fuse*) how do I tell what ever (I can't >> tell it is devfs or what) to always make /dev/fuse* (when needed) >> with 777 perms (the security implications are not an issue here) > > Have you tried devfs.rules(5)? > > -Herbert > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > yes and since the device doesn't exist at the mount time for devfs they are ignored From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 06:07:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A15D1065676 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:07:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A3E8FC0A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:07:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so6869440yxe.3 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:07:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; bh=ZM/Wf8gTeq3yUv+s0biFf81JtwwPvNcNrrOCnlci3Jw=; b=iFsJm8x1/SJQ7/RhdOzjkRZFSHJgrqD8lJopWSErUD1RbZ8XPmdkwGiA2N1owxqGCl MgwVSa8+dPwcJyuVRLF2qByLZXQ/ASbCaHuZnuGdT/L/ZNy44d1VnUuss/Cb981YaxdA xZAn+cHEesInVsI7uhRuERy1s3TS42dF6CSAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; b=oejMaUSzMNjFoLzL7vzOp23Mh+RcfEzR0FV0DfTG4PvrwD6P0z2E8woV/kpznJrkj6 1JIN2Iw6ixDQnPVMoxRTihlMNc7/PiH4CYmLz9B2WGL5/AWtf98zto85VcT8Niqicb0n xt45OAIl8lT5lirkXfx5ggACRQXMXsm4Fe6tA= Received: by 10.150.251.27 with SMTP id y27mr3967858ybh.227.1255068449103; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dimension.5p.local (adsl-99-19-46-114.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.19.46.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15sm334293gxk.4.2009.10.08.23.07.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:07:21 -0400 From: jhell To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20091009055817.GA2420@current.Sisis.de> Message-ID: References: <20091009055817.GA2420@current.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x89D8547E X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tar --unlink ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:07:30 -0000 On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:58 +0200, guru@ wrote: > > Hello, > > To move a file tree from one place to another I see as an example: > > # tar -cf - local | tar --unlink -xpf - -C /mnt > > What does '--unlink' do exactly? I can't see it in the man page of > tar(1). Thanks in advance > > matthias > man 2 unlink -- ;; dataix.net!jhell 2048R/89D8547E 2009-09-30 ;; BSD since FreeBSD 4.2 Linux since Slackware 2.1 ;; 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 06:11:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F59A1065672 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C3C8FC15 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n996BuhM060907; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:11:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ED8ECBAAD; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:11:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:11:55 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Message-ID: <20091009061155.GA75746@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4ACEAD18.9070000@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4ACEAD18.9070000@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set device permissions at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:11:58 -0000 --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 11:25:12PM -0400, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > Since certain currently unused devices are not created in /dev=20 > (specifically in my case /dev/fuse*) how do I tell what ever (I can't=20 > tell it is devfs or what) to always make /dev/fuse* (when needed) with=20 > 777 perms (the security implications are not an issue here) See devfs.rules(5). Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrO1CsACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUWkgCcDPQQ6LsxVopgTfToA9+zpTmy IvYAn1CKnqWKQi0BaAaVr1xqYAnTbKoR =hb1m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 06:13:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE261065694 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8268FC26 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from current.Sisis.de (ppp-62-216-210-238.dynamic.mnet-online.de [62.216.210.238]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B97186533A3; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:13:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n996DQre002585; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:13:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:13:26 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: jhell Message-ID: <20091009061326.GA2493@current.Sisis.de> References: <20091009055817.GA2420@current.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tar --unlink ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:13:25 -0000 El día Friday, October 09, 2009 a las 02:07:21AM -0400, jhell escribió: > > On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:58 +0200, guru@ wrote: > > > >Hello, > > > >To move a file tree from one place to another I see as an example: > > > ># tar -cf - local | tar --unlink -xpf - -C /mnt > > > >What does '--unlink' do exactly? I can't see it in the man page of > >tar(1). Thanks in advance > > > > matthias > > > > man 2 unlink I know the unlink(2) sys call, but what does this --unlink flag in tar(1) on restore (-x)? matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 06:18:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9741065672 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:18:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f195.google.com (mail-qy0-f195.google.com [209.85.221.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61008FC18 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk33 with SMTP id 33so6801454qyk.29 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:18:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yrRmAwC2u7CO0IgPfgLTxpqIcjTQtnVFnd4PWXBKw00=; b=q/17SMw1WVzS6dE8x525e5bTEW/EkfI+xZrkuflQQJSqvjdC0BatW3LE3xs6Mb62gG ov6bkKGmWba51maK61zfn2Ye8cwoPvjcmJkKONPKJOp39InzMg2SGxOAz9rxi3nd4SSj ntyw49fJfCKFbQg4ljdG4l+q3gwUuhSDSSCGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JloyOqN/GDjEqAL2HMxmzFpE3ucONJ8lPVC9LIPywn17yVanFSjs1+APmCHv7RciIj guLbPF5GOOap1lRNlqTYDEDKGxR/iZgyveO79GxAgPcVbIdQlB3FjzDZ4A2WMDOyOKJz IkH9aZko8VnXNdqw7ZOFQgJiqEj9lkmjERJl0= Received: by 10.224.20.210 with SMTP id g18mr2126069qab.325.1255069128113; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm521940qwk.6.2009.10.08.23.18.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ACED5C6.8060605@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:18:46 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090915) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4ACEAD18.9070000@gmail.com> <20091009061155.GA75746@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20091009061155.GA75746@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set device permissions at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:18:49 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 11:25:12PM -0400, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > >> Since certain currently unused devices are not created in /dev >> (specifically in my case /dev/fuse*) how do I tell what ever (I can't >> tell it is devfs or what) to always make /dev/fuse* (when needed) with >> 777 perms (the security implications are not an issue here) >> > > See devfs.rules(5). > > Should of been more specific in the orginal question then I added a rule and since the device doesn't exist at devfs mount time it does not honor the rule From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 06:39:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06815106568B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:39:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f202.google.com (mail-pz0-f202.google.com [209.85.222.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD658FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk40 with SMTP id 40so6879047pzk.7 for ; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:39:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=a59Ft0j4mpLDI7P0kPbBhDwzkH4q4Nzo5qyPwuWj000=; b=g6sieSm3CEgfcRZS5+Rq2IPkdBBeHdqUA45w0Yf7jaBuEPlM0yU1UlOmyWVJDv7R57 HcEf0N2S1YcbO5/Wgy9izez5U0bMHAz5kbMlvGwLZNcIaBLVBe8Ua49a3ESsKv5ehjKY HgAQg6j94fPl0ahQcnvLweTnRdf6YaPCQw2QI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=YiqNLiS142ScLqOBw1cAC3RbYOM+kV0dKw33CcWZAxDt9ymZIg3n37ZDPd+91UwPMg vgJDGZVJ3FGbnHyijk5XlH7o4zD4byLPo5zw4UsdXjfXucomL3+Xskyk/z/ROqc6wsXd tZmFRI7i6g5vU8WEZ31WMvQnrIZGto1OgL3T0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.249.7 with SMTP id w7mr190241wfh.317.1255070398316; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:39:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4acd9c98.Mf06e1KlRm+blPrD%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <200910071110.n97BANiE012861@lurza.secnetix.de> <4acd9c98.Mf06e1KlRm+blPrD%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:39:58 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cd014cdb37859c6b Message-ID: From: Randi Harper To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: chrisstankevitz@yahoo.com, olli@lurza.secnetix.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:39:59 -0000 On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:02 AM, wrote: > At least as far back as SunOs 3.5* the installer was able to auto- > size the partitions based on the selected distribution sets. Of > course, this means that the installer must know the size of each > distribution set -- on each of /, /usr, and /var -- and that the > selection of what to install has to happen before the partitioning > is actually done. I would think that the sizing of the distribution > sets could easily be automated as part of the release process, and > that the needed reordering of the installation process would not > be all that difficult for someone familiar with sysinstall and > accustomed to coding in the language involved. > 1.) Look at the PR database and search for sysinstall. See all those open reports, some from 8 years ago? sysinstall needs some babying. There are bugs that need to be addressed, and I'm making those a much higher priority than feature requests, although this isn't to say that you can't submit a feature request anyways. 2.) The problem isn't that the current default partition sizing doesn't work with a newly installed system. It does. The problem is what happens afterwords: compiling a new kernel or two, installing third party software (while it's true that most files from installed ports are installed to /usr/local, that doesn't mean that they are all configured to only write data to /usr/local at run time, obviously), etc. syslogd is installed by default, but there's no way for me to know if you plan on logging to a remote host, or even using this host as a syslog server for multiple hosts, or what your log retention is going to be, nor do I know if this is going to be a database or mail server, so I can't guess the size of /var. Knowing the size of the data to be installed is easily enough done, but it's not going to solve this problem at all. 3.) Although your comparison to SunOS isn't really all that relevant, your complaint about default partition size is. This is something that I'm considering changing, although I expect some backlash/bikeshed. I've not yet run into problems with / unless I had more than 2 kernels around, but I have seen a default-sized /tmp fill up due to some third party software. I was thinking that a more acceptable default layout (leaving swap at it's current default size) would be: / = 1GB /var = 2GB /tmp = 2GB One thing to remember is that these are just suggested defaults. Most experienced users are going to use a custom layout when setting up a new server, so the goal here is to have partition sizes that work for everyone else. Although FreeBSD does work on older hardware, I'd guess that most of the hardware it is being installed on now is less than 10 years old. The defaults we currently have in place are outdated. They are targeted more for older systems, perhaps because sysinstall hasn't been touched in quite a while. I'm looking for community input on this, so feel free to pipe up with your $.02. -- randi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 06:52:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA368106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3631E8FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bsddesktop.xor.net (c122-106-77-13.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.77.13]) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n996qH5u014123 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:52:18 +1100 Message-ID: <4ACECF0F.7000208@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:50:07 +1100 From: Alex R User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091009) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: binutils X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:52:20 -0000 Hi Guys, Is there any news on when the version of binutils that ships as part of the base system will be updated? The version that ships with 7.x etc is about 5 years old now. It creates problems on amd64 when compiling mplayer (assembly language directive errors), and can be resolved by installing a newer version of binutils. Feel free to share your thoughts :) Alex. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 06:52:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078231065695 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD338FC27 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n996qjEM028898 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:52:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n996qjEi010381 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:52:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n996qjTn010379; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:52:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:52:45 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20091009065245.GV29215@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20091009055817.GA2420@current.Sisis.de> <20091009061326.GA2493@current.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20091009061326.GA2493@current.Sisis.de> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:52:46 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: jhell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tar --unlink ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:52:48 -0000 In the last episode (Oct 09), Matthias Apitz said: > El día Friday, October 09, 2009 a las 02:07:21AM -0400, jhell escribió: > > On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:58 +0200, guru@ wrote: > > > > > >To move a file tree from one place to another I see as an example: > > > > > ># tar -cf - local | tar --unlink -xpf - -C /mnt > > > > > >What does '--unlink' do exactly? I can't see it in the man page of > > >tar(1). Thanks in advance > > > > man 2 unlink > > I know the unlink(2) sys call, but what does this --unlink flag in tar(1) > on restore (-x)? It's the same as the -U option, provided for gnutar compatibility. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 07:05:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80062106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7FD8FC0A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 9056926; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:05:55 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 9056924; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:05:42 -0400 Message-ID: <4ACEE10D.4070201@radel.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:06:53 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randi Harper References: <200910071110.n97BANiE012861@lurza.secnetix.de> <4acd9c98.Mf06e1KlRm+blPrD%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040608000605040902010701" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:05:56 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040608000605040902010701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randi Harper wrote: > I was thinking that a more acceptable default layout (leaving swap at it's > current default size) would be: > > / = 1GB > /var = 2GB > /tmp = 2GB > > One thing to remember is that these are just suggested defaults. Most > experienced users are going to use a custom layout when setting up a new > server, so the goal here is to have partition sizes that work for everyone > else. Although FreeBSD does work on older hardware, I'd guess that most of > the hardware it is being installed on now is less than 10 years old. The > defaults we currently have in place are outdated. They are targeted more for > older systems, perhaps because sysinstall hasn't been touched in quite a > while. > > I'm looking for community input on this, so feel free to pipe up with your > $.02. I believe it's been years since I didn't bump up the sizes on an install, otherwise I just end up with all this space where it's least likely to save me from a filled disk in the future. While I am actually running some hardware that is over 10 years old with FreeBSD, quite happily, every single hard drive involved has been replaced due to failure or as a preventative measure. You just can't get general purpose disks that small anymore....I'd think that assuming everyone had at least 10 GB disks at this point would be reasonable. 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Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:12:07 -0000 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Jon Radel wrote: > I believe it's been years since I didn't bump up the sizes on an install, > otherwise I just end up with all this space where it's least likely to save > me from a filled disk in the future. While I am actually running some > hardware that is over 10 years old with FreeBSD, quite happily, every single > hard drive involved has been replaced due to failure or as a preventative > measure. > Oh, I'm not saying people aren't running FreeBSD on older hardware, I'm just guessing that *new* installs mostly happen on hardware that is less than 10 years old. :) -- randi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 07:20:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC71106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276818FC14 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n997KQGK016126; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:20:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 02:20:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200910090720.n997KQ0D016125@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Pierre-Luc Drouin Cc: Subject: When is it worth enabling hyperthreading? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:20:30 -0000 On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:24:48 -0400 Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: >Could someone explain me in which cases it is useful to enable >hyperthreading on a machine running FreeBSD 8.0 and in which other cases >it is not a good idea? Is that possible that hyperthreading is >disadvantageous unless the number of active (non-sleeping) threads is >really high? > >For example, if I have an i7 CPU with 4 physical cores and that I run >some multi-threaded code that has only 4 threads, it will run almost >always (twice) slower with hyperthreading enabled than when I disable it >in the BIOS. If I understand correctly, hyperthreading has the advantage >of being able to do CPU context switching faster than the OS, but it No. Both context execute simultaneously. Each logical CPU of the two logical CPUs in a core has its own set of registers, LDT and GDT pointer registers, and instruction counter. Both compete for the same remaining set of resources: DAT, TLB, FPU, cache (all levels for a given core), busses to off-chip resources, and--most critically--pipeline slots per clock cycle. Any time a resource shared by the two logical CPUs (what the logical CPUs execute are called "CPU threads" or "hyperthreads") is in use by one logical CPU, it is unavailable for use by the other logical CPU. If a logical CPU needs a resource unavailable due to its being in use by the other logical CPU, the late-comer's processing is suspended until the resource is released by the other logical CPU. Such a lockout situation is not directly detectable in software because the locked-out instruction is still in execution; it's just taking more than the usual number of cycles to complete. On a P4 Prescott chip or the late models of single-cored Xeons, the pipeline structure is apparently less than ideal for sustained simultaneous execution; i.e., there are frequent pairings of instructions that require more than the available pipeline slots of the types required by the two parallel instructions, which causes one of them to spin until the other moves on, opening the next cycle's set of pipeline slots. A simple case can demonstrate the problem, although on most systems this example would likely be infrequent. There is only one FPU pipeline on these chips, so two floating-point instructions executing simultaneously will result in one getting the FPU pipeline slot for the current cycle, while the other one spins until the next cycle, whereupon the other side will spin, etc. What is actually the more common occurrence is that other types of instruction pairs will require, for example, four slots of a type that only has three pipelines. The Core i7 chips (don't know about the other Core iN series) are alleged to have an improved assortment of pipelines w.r.t. typical instruction mixes, although I think there is still only one FPU per core, so the parallelism is supposed to be rather more effective on these chips than on their forerunners in the Pentium/Xeon series. It has been quite a while since I last tried measuring it, but IIRC, a "make buildworld" on my 3.4 GHz P4 Prescott takes about one to two minutes longer elapsed time in non-hyperthreading mode with MAKEFLAGS set to "-j3" than it does with hyperthreading enabled and MAKEFLAGS set to "-j5" (i.e., something like 52 - 53 minutes instead of 51 minutes and a few seconds). Your quad-core Core i7 chips ought to provide a much greater benefit with hyperthreading enabled, relatively speaking. The traditional recommendation for the -j flag for make(1) is 3*nCPUs, but hyperthreading doesn't give you a full CPU's worth of extra processing, so your quad-core chips won't give you a full 8 CPUs' worth. In other words, a single, large, parallel make job probably should have -j set to something under 24 yet still greater than 12, as a guess perhaps 20ish. :-) But do try it yourself at different -j values, and let us know how your timings turn out on that chip, along with the model number of the chip. >does this context switching systematically instead of only when >requested, so it slows things down unless the number of running >(non-sleeping) threads is greater or equal to let say the number of >physical threads x 1.5-1.75. > In general, there is a slight gain, although running parallel floating-point activities is a break-even situation and not worth the bother unless you're just trying to learn OpenMP or some such. When I've disabled hyperthreading, interactive response has often seemed a tad less snappy when running some CPU-bound process at the same time. OTOH, with hyperthreading enabled, I sometimes notice a bit more jerkiness in things like scrolling in firefox, but it's not easy to tell what's really happening there because firefox typically has at least 7 threads itself. :-) Like Bill Moran said, user interfaces do seem a bit more responsive, and I haven't seen any noticeable *loss* in overall performance. The "make buildworld" example runs long enough to give some idea, and it always runs a little bit faster under hyperthreading than in uniprocessor mode. A "make buildkernel" also shows a bit of improvement. I've never seen any dramatic improvement, but the slight improvement is sometimes apparent. Also, when running Windows XP, having hyperthreading enabled has allowed me to get out from under some runaway, single-threaded process, even though doing so can take a while because the runaway process does compete vigorously for the shared resources discussed above. :-) Nevertheless, without the extra logical CPU, a manual reboot would have been necessary to regain control of the machine. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 07:26:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EC81065694 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D61D8FC21 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from current.Sisis.de (cazador.sisis.de [193.31.11.193]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9507186542A4; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:26:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n997Q3V6001918; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:26:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:26:03 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: <20091009072602.GA1896@current.Sisis.de> References: <20091009055817.GA2420@current.Sisis.de> <20091009061326.GA2493@current.Sisis.de> <20091009065245.GV29215@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20091009065245.GV29215@dan.emsphone.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: jhell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tar --unlink ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:26:00 -0000 El día Friday, October 09, 2009 a las 01:52:45AM -0500, Dan Nelson escribió: > > I know the unlink(2) sys call, but what does this --unlink flag in tar(1) > > on restore (-x)? > > It's the same as the -U option, provided for gnutar compatibility. Dan, Thanks for your helping answer. Maybe someone with commit right should make a note in the manpage of tar(1). Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 08:35:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5CB1065695 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48358FC14 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n998XTal088168 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:33:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:35:19 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20091009083516.GA60096@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: for perl wizards. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:35:25 -0000 Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate hex back into ', ", -- [that's a dash), and so forth. Why does this fail to trans the hex code to an apostrophe? perl -pi.bak -e 's/\xe2\x80\x99/'/g' If there any another other tools, I'm interested! tia, guys, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 08:48:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8E51065670 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC7C8FC0C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MwB9f-0003qq-S3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:48:51 -0700 Message-ID: <25817655.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:48:51 -0700 (PDT) From: BigDes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <17179367.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: desphilboy@yahoo.com References: <17179367.post@talk.nabble.com> Subject: Re: netbeans 6.0.1 not run X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:48:52 -0000 cuongvt wrote: > > Hi all! > > full explanation: > FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) > uid=1001(mak) gid=0(wheel) groups=0(wheel),69(network) > > installed: > jdk-1.6.0.3p4_1 > diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_10 > javavmwrapper-2.3.2 > > I'm using zsh so I set JAVA_HOME and PATH of java into in my .zshrc. > java -version: > java 16 jdku3p1 etc etc > > Then I insralled netbeans from ports, firstly it warned: > JAVA_HOME should not be defined. > > So i removed JAVA_HOME and PATH of java into in my .zshrc, reboot and > reinstalled netbeans. > Installation went fine. > > When I try run netbeans: > mak@lo0:~>netbeans > XIO: fatal IO error 0 (Unknown error: 0) on X server ":0.0" > after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. > > Any ideas? > P/S:All pkgs were installed via ports* > you shall change your java interpreter package. Install jdk1.6 from /usr/ports/java/jdk16, by going to this directory and typing "make install". I tried jdk1.6.0 and replaced it instead of diablo-1.5.0. In order to do this you shall try to change javahome directory in netbeans.conf you may find this file in /usr/local/netbeans/etc then: #vi netbeans.conf you may see something like this javahome= /usr/local/diablo-1.5.0 chang that into: javahome=/usr/local/jdk1.6.0 then it will work -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/netbeans-6.0.1-not-run-tp17179367p25817655.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:28:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBC34C3692B9A49FDCA88C9F8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary Kline wrote: > Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a > text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be > used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate > hex back into ', ", -- [that's a dash), and so forth. Why does > this fail to trans the hex code to an apostrophe? >=20 > perl -pi.bak -e 's/\xe2\x80\x99/'/g' =20 >=20 > If there any another other tools, I'm interested! >=20 That's a problem with shell quoting rather than perl. You're using ' as the delimiter on your command line, so you need to escape any instance= s within commands. Or you can replace a literal ' with the ASCII character= code \x27. However, in the more general sense what you are doing is replacing certai= n UTF-8 character codes with similar characters from the ASCII range. That= sounds to me like a job for iconv(1) -- in ports as converters/libiconv Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigBC34C3692B9A49FDCA88C9F8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkrPAjkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxI7QCfTpW/aAAmzC4wVahWPD3A4c/H TjIAnRvRkZdANkVOefY6uMn0jj5B2/sC =rb6t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBC34C3692B9A49FDCA88C9F8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 09:46:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8048106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:46:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74CE8FC0A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:46:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id BFE4616B9D2; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:46:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.91]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 51B3D16B9D1; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:46:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:38:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:38:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20091009083516.GA60096@thought.org> Message-ID: <20091009043751.P92438@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <20091009083516.GA60096@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: for perl wizards. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:46:42 -0000 On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Gary Kline wrote: > > Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a > text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be > used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate > hex back into ', ", -- [that's a dash), and so forth. Why does > this fail to trans the hex code to an apostrophe? > > perl -pi.bak -e 's/\xe2\x80\x99/'/g' You're kidding, aren't you? The apostrophe is the same as the single quote, so double quote the execute line. Also, of course, you haven't specified which file(s) to operate on. And finally, there are tons of perl forums, mailing lists, and newsgroups. Pick one to ask perl questions. perl -pi.bak -e "s/\xe2\x80\x99/'/g" OOo > If there any another other tools, I'm interested! check out sed and tr. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 09:47:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38B91065670 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:47:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797A58FC28 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so6388696fxm.36 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:47:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=mNpwmbTNu302EeZN9Wb8m536BqJNXqhRm1TeUpCQGWk=; b=NwaYVzrsg2bfGYLOzv7SPkTc0lmF3PWukMGjnpaicjDyIWSZ0IuOCfaBwSMyztiCEY M2r5+w2p8gmW7jVxiLnFpkjnmEZEV8DVAlvYTcGgVqEi5v23SYnFqU/Z0ZtUEsRNI5TQ W8fT8yrIKwOJdBHID12dIinvWskALbpK69xdU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=F23l4I9s+OB4t83g09e+Otp2KPaEj9/wlUoYlETGE7mOUyvqGIZOVW0yfFZv2JDYO9 ZH7gae+Mj4AS7fhmz33Ukdd98bYkaF9b5cGBR0JpBi9fP8dLi9tTUVPWDiFUo3VNuZc4 CPenalDT+RaRm83ziFr8kJXwuzOXyNvQ/vzCw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.50.22 with SMTP id c22mr1011892muk.54.1255081650601; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:47:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACECF0F.7000208@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> References: <4ACECF0F.7000208@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:47:30 +0200 Message-ID: <3a142e750910090247t1fe78717vb32c67be5749a586@mail.gmail.com> From: Paul B Mahol To: Alex R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binutils X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:47:32 -0000 On 10/9/09, Alex R wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Is there any news on when the version of binutils that ships as part of > the base system will be updated? The version that ships with 7.x etc is > about 5 years old now. > > It creates problems on amd64 when compiling mplayer (assembly language > directive errors), and can be resolved by installing a newer version of > binutils. > > Feel free to share your thoughts :) /usr/ports/devel/binutils From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 10:26:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289AE1065676 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB748FC1A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99AQP5U014686; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:26:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n99AQPUv014685; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:26:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:26:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910091026.n99AQPUv014685@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, kline@thought.org In-Reply-To: <20091009083516.GA60096@thought.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:26:41 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: for perl wizards. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, kline@thought.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 10:26:43 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > > Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a > text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be > used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate > hex back into ', ", -- [that's a dash), and so forth. Why does > this fail to trans the hex code to an apostrophe? > > perl -pi.bak -e 's/\xe2\x80\x99/'/g' You need to escape the inner quote character, of course. I think sed is better suited for this task than perl. > If there any another other tools, I'm interested! That "hex code" rather looks like UTF-8. For conversion between character encodings I recommend recode from the ports collection (ports/converters/recode). For example, to convert file.txt from UTF-8 to ISO8859-15: $ recode utf8..iso8859-15 file.txt To preserve the previous file contents, do this: $ recode utf8..iso8859-15 new.txt Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Python tricks" is a tough one, cuz the language is so clean. E.g., C makes an art of confusing pointers with arrays and strings, which leads to lotsa neat pointer tricks; APL mistakes everything for an array, leading to neat one-liners; and Perl confuses everything period, making each line a joyous adventure . -- Tim Peters From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 10:34:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530EC1065670 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:34:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DFE8FC18 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99AYMiA015038; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:34:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n99AYLwH015037; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:34:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:34:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910091034.n99AYLwH015037@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, aryeh.friedman@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4ACED156.1030609@gmail.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:34:37 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: How to set device permissions at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, aryeh.friedman@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 10:34:39 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > > Den 9. okt. 2009 kl. 05.25 skrev "Aryeh M. Friedman" > > : > > > > > Since certain currently unused devices are not created in /dev > > > (specifically in my case /dev/fuse*) how do I tell what ever (I can't > > > tell it is devfs or what) to always make /dev/fuse* (when needed) > > > with 777 perms (the security implications are not an issue here) > > > > Have you tried devfs.rules(5)? > > yes and since the device doesn't exist at the mount time for devfs they > are ignored Then you did something wrong, or you're confusing devfs.rules and devfs.conf. Quote from the manpage: "The devfs.rules file provides an easy way to create and apply devfs(8) rules, even for devices that are not available at boot." The rules take effect whenever a new node (devide) appears, even after devfs was mounted. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Python is an experiment in how much freedom programmers need. Too much freedom and nobody can read another's code; too little and expressiveness is endangered." -- Guido van Rossum From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 10:39:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF021065679; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F648FC12; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:39:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99Ad8BL015147; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:39:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n99Ad8Or015146; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:39:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:39:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910091039.n99Ad8Or015146@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, randi@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:39:24 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, randi@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 10:39:25 -0000 Randi Harper wrote: > 1.) Look at the PR database and search for sysinstall. See all those open > reports, some from 8 years ago? sysinstall needs some babying. It doesn't need babying, it needs killing. :-) Quotes from the sysinstall(8) manpage: "This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will eventually be replaced." And: "This utility is a prototype which lasted several years past its expira- tion date and is greatly in need of death." Actually I hoped that 8.0 would be released with the new installer that has been under development for some time. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be ready yet. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd I suggested holding a "Python Object Oriented Programming Seminar", but the acronym was unpopular. -- Joseph Strout From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 11:02:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822BD106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snailboy1@yahoo.com) Received: from web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EB308FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 30425 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Oct 2009 11:02:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255086175; bh=QrgeIhejHdX9SHrAf94c9HpG5OwgwIIWl8AwkABFyT0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sHPIXipyyism/0i0qyL4DUuk9n650nOlUdLF3TGGtVL9kgKKhQGIZ5NmL4icaJahIp6YfWGX2YTqCsg3yuYvZ8rYxE+McnY9hcs1J5Yv8rhlDFQldtxc8BH8eEPAMU6UOri6LAAqDwN/iYQ11B9Zvft45kwsM1YyPa88x/gdrj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NsWg7BhNaU3VxZOoGX30q/dMiMWDC9hhgOmY5ypa6PPWdfpBZHaGmnZrdrPealGDBsVOaf1sEv3du+UTPebh6qyPOPpcr7bi9EiuS7rNurcQQJ8Awbus+xXJoAlDn7/f03sasBxiMF/d0CzINBJisJdK2rB+5rQUs1r58M5PPlc=; Message-ID: <335194.30011.qm@web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: DwxtJ34VM1nKmNhkfJHCUPswcuoy26SfGNvOpcQocYfnzej6TfbwVwgjBWMRJGs6zy43qASbEDfHxepjK2kZVhVCorGrzTlqZwsPbSXPiO1_AVVYWJ8VSDrX9zqGTlW3ADlvh0ZELw01gbY_..8XX7WwJq0C1PEkQ4fDWr2DS4.7ApiYL2aF5_63Cr6mzu1MupL1buooSbRNJbRMdrpPN2LR7ELPupAu8Y51xwYQGDuDOGYstEvl_rNBgWeHr.KfKYopyBEqBc5J9uro5kEzQ_Gmy0y9.8n6z67nH2avLixdn3JaMLmnrtuplUTwujKKS7sjNCnzC_YKrEaphyWn6LCC19jHN3P.26dP4sy6P_zX Received: from [76.202.135.125] by web57001.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:02:55 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:02:55 -0700 (PDT) From: David LeCount To: Tim Judd , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: Trouble getting new raid array to boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:02:57 -0000 > Then my answer would be missing MBR or boot blocks, an > active > partition alone won't make a system boot. it's just a > flag to say > which partition is bootable, but doesn't mean that the boot > flag > itself makes the partition boot. > > > fdisk(8) and bsdlabel(8) -- see the -B option to both. > > > If you have a dangerously dedicated disk, ignore > fdisk. If you don't > have a bsdlabel, ignore bsdlabel. > > I do both on any standard install. I set sade to install a FreeBSD boot manager. Just to be sure, I just tried fdisk -B aacd0 and bsdlabel -B aacd0s1 and I'm still getting the same invalid partition error. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 11:32:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1443C1065670 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:32:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B4F8FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-70-227.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.70.227]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n99BW1ih049751 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:32:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4ACF1F2C.8010009@bah.homeip.net> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:31:56 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/1.0.8 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: security run output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:32:05 -0000 Hello list! I'm getting the messages below far one machine and I can't remeber how managed to do that. I want that for my other machines as well, but can not remeber how to activate it. Checking for a current audit database: Database created: Wed Oct 7 03:55:02 CEST 2009 Checking for packages with security vulnerabilities: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 11:41:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8029106568B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:41:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s5.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s5.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26B58FC19 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY126-W21 ([65.55.131.56]) by bay0-omc3-s5.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 9 Oct 2009 04:41:30 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [65.214.169.254] From: Sean Cavanaugh To: , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:41:30 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4ACF1F2C.8010009@bah.homeip.net> References: <4ACF1F2C.8010009@bah.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2009 11:41:30.0253 (UTC) FILETIME=[7179EBD0:01CA48D5] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: RE: security run output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:41:31 -0000 =20 > Date: Fri=2C 9 Oct 2009 13:31:56 +0200 > From: bernt@bah.homeip.net > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: security run output >=20 > Hello list! >=20 > I'm getting the messages below far one machine and I can't > remeber how managed to do that. I want that for my other machines > as well=2C but can not remeber how to activate it. >=20 >=20 > Checking for a current audit database: >=20 > Database created: Wed Oct 7 03:55:02 CEST 2009 >=20 > Checking for packages with security vulnerabilities: > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org that would most likely be the portaudit utility=20 =20 /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portaudit = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 12:56:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61841065679 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D2958FC18 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:56:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 87853 invoked by uid 89); 9 Oct 2009 12:56:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 9 Oct 2009 12:56:34 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACF3315.1020802@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:56:53 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eighner References: <20091009083516.GA60096@thought.org> <20091009043751.P92438@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> In-Reply-To: <20091009043751.P92438@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: for perl wizards. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:56:45 -0000 Lars Eighner wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Gary Kline wrote: > >> >> Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a >> text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be >> used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate >> hex back into ', ", -- [that's a dash), and so forth. Why does >> this fail to trans the hex code to an apostrophe? >> >> perl -pi.bak -e 's/\xe2\x80\x99/'/g' > > You're kidding, aren't you? Have you not ever overlooked something like a misplaced apostrophe? The OP came with nearly workable code, in which I can tell that he spent some time researching and toying with before asking for help. > And finally, there are tons of perl forums, > mailing lists, and newsgroups. Pick one to ask perl questions. Why? The OP is not looking for help identifying why a complex subroutine is doing something unexpected. He is asking how to modify portions of his file system on FreeBSD using the command line. Would you have been so harsh if he was asking how to do it with sed? awk? I for one welcome these Perl questions. I've asked them here before, and for simple tasks, will ask them here again. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 13:36:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0AA1065672 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:36:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john.w.obrien@lmco.com) Received: from mailgw1a.lmco.com (mailgw1a.lmco.com [192.31.106.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCAF58FC0C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emss02g01.ems.lmco.com (relay2.ems.lmco.com [166.29.2.54])by mailgw1a.lmco.com (LM-6) with ESMTP id n99CZheI004509for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 06:35:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CONVERSION2-DAEMON.lmco.com by lmco.com (PMDF V6.4 #31705) id <0KR800501YZJ8G@lmco.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:35:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hvxhtpn1.us.lmco.com ([158.186.148.30]) by lmco.com (PMDF V6.4 #31705) with ESMTP id <0KR800KD7YV3FV@lmco.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:35:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from HVXMSP5.us.lmco.com ([158.186.148.28]) by hvxhtpn1.us.lmco.com ([158.186.148.30]) with mapi; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:35:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:35:29 -0400 From: "Obrien, John W" To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Message-id: <7AA4282413159948AD514B064BE1478D17F7E28D1D@HVXMSP5.us.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-language: en-US Thread-Topic: xorg-server package update on 7.2-STABLE Thread-Index: AcpI222/zvY3loO3Sy2Tw9zWxtMCgg== Accept-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: xorg-server package update on 7.2-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:36:02 -0000 Good morning, The problem I'm having is that "startx" gives a garbage-filled screen and locks up the console. When I run it through ssh from another computer I can see that it complains: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/bin/X: Undefined symbol "shmctl" before dying and leaving the main display buggered up. Rebooting the computer is the only way I've found to un-bugger it. Background ----------------- Recently installed fresh i386 7.2-RELEASE, and subsequently had X working with the "intel" driver. I ran "portupgrade -aPP" two days ago using packages-7-stable and immediately thereafter experienced the symptoms described above. I see nothing related in /usr/ports/UPDATING since the release date of 7.2. The closest things that turned up Googling variations of the error message has turned up were http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=6661 and http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=7464 which strike me as "close but no cigar." This is close to the hairy edge of my competence, but I tried comparing the dynamic symbol tables of the relevant files with the following results # objdump -T /usr/local/bin/Xorg | grep shmctl 000000000 DF *UND* 000000000 FBSD_1.1 shmctl # objdump -T /lib/libc.so.7 [snip] 00045f64 W DF .text 000000000 FBSD_1.0 shmctl [snip] # pkg_info -W /usr/loca/bin/Xorg /usr/local/bin/Xorg was installed by package xorg-server-1.6.1,1 I interpret this to suggest that the updated Xorg was linked to a different version of the C library and is looking for a version of the symbol that doesn't exist, though perhaps I'm misreading http://people.freebsd.org/~deischen/symver/freebsd_versioning.txt My specific questions are: - Am I on the right track with my diagnostic steps or is this the wrong rabbit hole? - Is this more likely a bug (xorg-server from 7-STABLE shouldn't break ABI with 7.2-RELEASE) or operator error (missing or incorrect update step)? - I would prefer to maintain my system using pre-compiled packages only. Is that feasible, and if so does it come with restrictions that I may have already violated? Any pointers would be appreciated and a solution would be greatly appreciated. Please let me know if there are potentially-relevant details I've omitted. Regards, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 13:47:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9B2106568D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1548FC12 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99Dlbi4028082; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:47:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n99DlbB4028079; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:47:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:47:37 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Oliver Fromme In-Reply-To: <200910091026.n99AQPUv014685@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: References: <200910091026.n99AQPUv014685@lurza.secnetix.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:47:37 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: for perl wizards. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:47:38 -0000 On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a > > text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be > > used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate > > hex back into ', ", -- [that's a dash), and so forth. Why does > > this fail to trans the hex code to an apostrophe? > > > > perl -pi.bak -e 's/\xe2\x80\x99/'/g' > > You need to escape the inner quote character, of course. > I think sed is better suited for this task than perl. That's twice now people have suggested sed instead of perl. Why? For many uses, perl is a better sed than sed. The regex engine is far more powerful and escapes are much simpler. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 14:07:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A57D1065670 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahlerrd@yahoo.com) Received: from web51004.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51004.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DCDF08FC17 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 44848 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Oct 2009 14:07:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255097233; bh=OVRuV4R3GHlFs/WN6Up+ioHc1KVAmQjIq15T57l/W1k=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CTCkZp/9QhLdr/YlrV9hAUf5sJVLbRNjRSJbfw3Ydz6TcBA8Mw1Ggfj/x9TNPa2QoMWF2dStWxvz1dXqMOd+bdiay7USnXRbWBtLj11wytPUhDHxyvt9EUKJBRghHW5+UJaaRvyio9CKuEjRaeVsxf0aHoKaKS3eACq1u0kTyD8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zJ6zPeo8d7SHcZ0nfXJRd/hGU24FuWMIz0gicvYy/YrsCl3Jzk69U+/umvZXcht4WOa4JkiZM+2rn+x801Lud6PKRPV3vIWl6xE4Ew1qJOH8O0BGAouqsMj32cP7cBQdA+J95XSvLh6hxtk/PEihlL1O2Q77yXKIHMhSBzhPT+Q=; Message-ID: <133849.44821.qm@web51004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: RGFRP30VM1lIYlkQTpS3j1Hy2YtRJA0qCOt.PBKo0myXGfnloDhRYKti02uRrYvG_FZ6CpLPxyJmm6bYs6RATeWxwmEB1nBgTc6vUwo6JQ_0NtJSEr0JfJTUfMxd04aFrYjptQPvgeAqZHANS1ErgY5uU8VeE4.5YrqmEcklvQM4k.n3DKItCaRxQNNGoQUrlPpyf4JLz_Ff7d4jJjzXIZT7MIR5nm3iKSIl36SCep34Q7L4DDaJSDseUKvnceoeZh1uhRD69TJlK9oKGTLmK2KlG_LoxMplIq6nw6AWovfiv_rcVV1Q1IBOxrMp.ctUmtWKuLlw3z9v9dlAXYKslf7ARdTnyBdBSw4LsanvZlxBXqfreQ0GkFJHWWRRWgS8rYRO2w45HGd7BbX348LeZbA0oSk- Received: from [74.40.57.42] by web51004.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:07:12 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 07:07:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Mahlerwein To: FreeBSD-Questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:07:14 -0000 > From: Randi Harper > I was thinking that a more acceptable default layout > (leaving swap at it's current default size) would be: > > / = 1GB > /var = 2GB > /tmp = 2GB Similar enough to what I use for general systems that I vote YES. I'd love to add one more - on a drive bigger than, say, 40 GB, adding a separate /home would be wonderful. Maybe allow up to 20 GB for user, all remaining space allocated to /home? Regardless of the second point, the first point is fine, though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 14:51:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3607106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:51:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from victorsubervi@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBEC8FC1D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:51:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so554281qwe.7 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:51:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=IHR9BPvkrcmqJ3NQ+o3vvU5hXQmM7jruNWyLXcZHAZk=; b=c7xBQFlUNunhre8Ngljlqd2QkTssaRmmpk3Igv2zhybt1pDpaVlAMZ5HsMeYW1/31k TQg46PSn86IFc4pzIFTA95mHO476zGdPPfMf2wy7m+BtLQPtktXi9OLrfcqbDHVUmjCG P8JnFva7KNqk+1NR/XJHXZvB0OcvkAEYpwbKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hoKWNTi8UZGPHQhDcCAqs+lW7H7EG44vl9gYYKkCA8ahY3TTfXmGTabLnJaKDdDAyR It+waI8N8qVB5IOqet0uZg+T7BMZTI4m5uNjbS6TIlUyqI5OA3sJySIRHb9iMIFIMdkm oxtEhb2jfm7I7GByco4mWSvmwibiNCbqlw/Ok= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.43.77 with SMTP id v13mr1429740qce.82.1255097955257; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:19:15 -0500 Message-ID: <4dc0cfea0910090719s36c43d89q124c3aa0923d629a@mail.gmail.com> From: Victor Subervi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Automatic chmod X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:51:57 -0000 Hi; I have a python script that automatically writes another script. I need to be able to automatically chmod the script so that it will execute. Also, it appears that's not enough, because when I manually chmod the script (775), it throws this error: fopen: Permission denied TIA, V From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 15:14:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02CA1065670 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahlerrd@yahoo.com) Received: from web51006.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51006.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 951E98FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 78310 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Oct 2009 15:14:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255101283; bh=5FlYgt2RiSubf3r2L2ix824MTclTMXE0OmmEYro1zLA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=38pfI85r4RCwVt+30nxNTeHjHaUDcSLbsWDAGKmYtv4JCxZBg/yHvvwnYYz+I0uekXRVdXj1VewvDXOqSGtUSr2LPncTSqmtKrU9Dcj8MvTy8uNlP9IhmecC6i3nkx2PHkObJT60zk2q2/eBAYcrEnq/G89b3LqNIqkOpVWShDI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Jpvsb4Ax2V6cluySoOHJldvswOzTGzgKPrHzgM3xQ76eDBc/xTLf36eCSrnzj0eA0e4hGvBYUxBRQl1fqT/dbucM26oo0gM0d5ck+0pmcHgh4rT3T3+AoopTvSXE9YEvZTrQ7LGfObAaCo1E6wFvXc+ofsQIoYWWWw8et+go+kU=; Message-ID: <868054.78039.qm@web51006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aFm8DgcVM1kWVsgh.7pHL2C3Ox5tvs5103Nc6V89zRQY5VhgkUjTLZE2B5Zxps5ti_bbXUGghspP7TN0qn.08FKlDPNlHjIWaEcr.xyIYkdMUwhXgvdunPLqkwUYEFP.eHiNT.9PrsLULds2kR36vHA58.VoI4LgaYCt.ilhoLXEyP6zaw9oLw8E8lYmAZ4yXlPvJ4.6LaxR1Kwr3Y8.OurBi8p03wNR9O4YfK.8SapQMItq0GmMaY3nVCRJhtqTahTKHyKU2_rYlG2nYYRkSxr5VSQDc1xi6RZq8vL57nHPC8GN7rYpJava1EIKP70nehr5JYmo9Bg2kHdm7u3lqfkDzmaM33Ir3YcdOM_3eZQF5gbDScwknvlokhwAqZjzikUx7ThtW6oZzQsvBFQPRnGq_1yI7R0yE74W9LqQ0XeLmIQZIN59jPo- Received: from [74.40.57.42] by web51006.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:14:43 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:14:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Mahlerwein To: FreeBSD-Questions In-Reply-To: <4dc0cfea0910090719s36c43d89q124c3aa0923d629a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: victorsubervi@gmail.com Subject: Re: Automatic chmod X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:14:45 -0000 >From: Victor Subervi >Subject: Automatic chmod >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 10:19 AM > >Hi; >I have a python script that automatically writes another script. I need to >be able to automatically chmod the script so that it will execute. Also, i= t >appears that's not enough, because when I manually chmod the script (775), >it throws this error: >fopen: Permission denied >TIA, >V What user are you running this under?=A0 Without seeing code, my first gues= s is that you are trying to open a file you don't have permission to open.= =A0 The chmod you are doing only affects the script's permissions, not the = permissions of the files it may touch. For more, I suggest posting the code itself. -Rich =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 15:15:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080841065695 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:15:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from blueboar_2@rambler.ru) Received: from mxa.rambler.ru (mxa.rambler.ru [81.19.66.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17B88FC1D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mcgi29.rambler.ru (mcgi29.rambler.ru [81.19.67.195]) by mxa.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id B477F753EC for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:59:13 +0400 (MSD) Received: from mcgi29.rambler.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mcgi29.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B3B17093 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:59:12 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [94.50.249.160] by mcgi29.rambler.ru with HTTP (mailimap); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:59:10 +0400 From: =?windows-1251?B?wuvg5Ojs6PAg0O7s4O3u4g==?= To: Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:59:10 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <530883385.1255100350.155184812.34257@mcgi29.rambler.ru> X-Mailer: Ramail 3u, (untone), http://mail.rambler.ru Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Russian Translator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:15:43 -0000 Hi there. I want to be the translator from English to Russian in freebsd.com. I see, that in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/ there is written: Copyright [http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/LEGALNOTICE.html] © 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 The FreeBSD Documentation Project But in the Russian page http://www.freebsd.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq/ Only Copyright [http://www.freebsd.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq/LEGALNOTICE.html] © 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 The FreeBSD Documentation Project So, the page in Russian is 3 years old. May i translate new FAQ and commit it to the freebsd.org? -- Vladimir Romanov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 15:19:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8621065676 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahlerrd@yahoo.com) Received: from web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FF098FC1D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:19:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 62120 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Oct 2009 15:19:01 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255101541; bh=/bTYYAhtoh6CMLm+B/aKqycP1n517/6v3/YIm9TLEE4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vLl0XMuKUodLKjK6Xj/l3kkqQPHqf7vbOUduXyS9LJcpks0KaB4wFQGWSU7C4HnOGexhw1oQDoSu4RC1354UzbC6fWKV/8ucliH6PTNq32GoyFwfZPUuHFSdWzr0J5aHTnVzjzPHkuO2UHhyy1+fY4qVBrIJ3kL6I0tKnCAGiQE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RRxQBMU1cHt3Ag3Pe+3ck1+vYKYnazFZxiq8iF1zHJKlsI+QXcHdEZgrqDHpkfCjdNewPndz6BqLXXfHYof0Fidf/uvsPsxfG7GvaimK7gF1wRMe6MjlLzgYwMdMwMRunQdtpTwTYrhUK1ZZZQxGhW62Sj0ctAFyhpoW8SeIX5w=; Message-ID: <307621.52461.qm@web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mydS9MoVM1lp6fPzK7ZKxw8a_zx5SecJPCK5fUzekAiRf93Xj1tSs3YHSkMibIqzK0_BA3RWZLMof1STjRSDAFoKqnIc7gcDxrHOim3DK1yfa4.2HhU6T48qADre94Vf0cbCy286WKOpl0M56R2oLFOKEkXsgyYQMnU3eg8KjBmpRi_.QbCGgaXuzPYBvIvIUPlsHWliXIqTNChcN15U6Umb5bcItnYoQKZw9SzcGFK2EowqH8W7yLQK92VMfMXS55Uu1GuMr4v9YALddC2.dNqCk_Xcw_fTJPTnTtWiTY5uZpSzYVoURnnhvP.NAnU._dsv0T7S0TOj4.d85EWa7wS.dwUC.bx9Tg1RV34SHNWxd.JdzZdLi3hoGbz.3NgN2UXYoo_hQedRfg3HwdGBEeHLXIw- Received: from [74.40.57.42] by web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:19:01 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:19:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Mahlerwein To: FreeBSD-Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Automatic chmod X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:19:02 -0000 >>From: Victor Subervi >>Subject: Automatic chmod >>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 10:19 AM >> >>Hi; >>I have a python script that automatically writes another script. I need t= o >>be able to automatically chmod the script so that it will execute. Also, = it >>appears that's not enough, because when I manually chmod the script (775)= , >>it throws this error: >>fopen: Permission denied >>TIA, >>V > >What user are you running this under?=A0 Without seeing code, my first gue= ss is that you are >trying to open a file you don't have permission to open= .=A0 The chmod you are doing only affects >the script's permissions, not th= e permissions of the files it may touch. > >For more, I suggest posting the code itself. Sorry, missed the 'script that writes a script that won't run' piece.=A0 Fi= rst solution isn't likely to be the solution (though still could be), but I= still suggest posting the code. -Rich =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 15:20:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F361065672 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from victorsubervi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f195.google.com (mail-qy0-f195.google.com [209.85.221.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4A98FC13 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk33 with SMTP id 33so7100749qyk.29 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:20:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QryutWt93/FLOiGY1ND2rjtm3tvalZi7LiwVnXwbC+M=; b=f4aVUshdgoctALgoWuOm8IbN5guzFgKAO1Tr9T96XZR1/rl00o2nDOmuhKbVgRgzzj SZ62cgHD6D23MiNYkEsTthccqmeBwnsl5fGTftVkFXGwC9mwcOq58LNq7dNSKmlggv7k mkdM5co26U6EebZTb81q1yfIWG8kZDCSJqmpM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qbsXT6cVwjvS4LGzkUV3Ke/nAEs1H4A0XbxMwbcAz6uCfJd6eW5Ofdedbh3Gr1Asz7 nLoAmFRtwWIWZEmDLtRtvm+DvGHcCq51HMG9H7gR55VFEW/212hDLSLFy5KlIOn0BvSJ dwiOswcTKAA9YU4RuCzAmq3hmzTlpdv5SEEow= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.62.89 with SMTP id w25mr432289qch.6.1255101656601; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:20:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <868054.78039.qm@web51006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <4dc0cfea0910090719s36c43d89q124c3aa0923d629a@mail.gmail.com> <868054.78039.qm@web51006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:20:56 -0500 Message-ID: <4dc0cfea0910090820i4aa1c7e8ia9512d2cd2fde9bb@mail.gmail.com> From: Victor Subervi To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Automatic chmod X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:20:57 -0000 User? I only have one user on this shared server. Here's the code: #!/usr/local/bin/python import cgitb; cgitb.enable() import MySQLdb import cgi import sys,os sys.path.append(os.getcwd()) from login import login user, passwd, db, host = login() form = cgi.FieldStorage() picid = int(form['id'].value) x = int(form['x'].value) pics = {1:'pic1',2:'pic2',3:'pic3',4:'pic4',5:'pic5',6:'pic6'} pic = pics[x] db = MySQLdb.connect(host=host, user=user, passwd=passwd, db=db) cursor= db.cursor() sql = "select " + pic + " from productsX where id='" + str(picid) + "';" cursor.execute(sql) content = cursor.fetchall()[0][0].tostring() cursor.close() print '''Content-Type: text/plain Content-Encoding: base64 ''' print print content.encode('base64') TIA, V On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Richard Mahlerwein wrote: > >From: Victor Subervi > >Subject: Automatic chmod > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 10:19 AM > > > >Hi; > >I have a python script that automatically writes another script. I need to > >be able to automatically chmod the script so that it will execute. Also, > it > >appears that's not enough, because when I manually chmod the script (775), > >it throws this error: > >fopen: Permission denied > >TIA, > >V > > What user are you running this under? Without seeing code, my first guess > is that you are trying to open a file you don't have permission to open. > The chmod you are doing only affects the script's permissions, not the > permissions of the files it may touch. > > For more, I suggest posting the code itself. > > -Rich > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 15:23:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D074106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5798FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n99FNZ1M088959 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:23:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99FNZWV051897 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:23:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n99FNZRB051855; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:23:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:23:34 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20091009152334.GX29215@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20091009055817.GA2420@current.Sisis.de> <20091009061326.GA2493@current.Sisis.de> <20091009065245.GV29215@dan.emsphone.com> <20091009072602.GA1896@current.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20091009072602.GA1896@current.Sisis.de> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 10:23:36 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: jhell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tar --unlink ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:23:37 -0000 In the last episode (Oct 09), Matthias Apitz said: > El día Friday, October 09, 2009 a las 01:52:45AM -0500, Dan Nelson escribió: > > > I know the unlink(2) sys call, but what does this --unlink flag in > > > tar(1) on restore (-x)? > > > > It's the same as the -U option, provided for gnutar compatibility. > > Thanks for your helping answer. Maybe someone with commit right should > make a note in the manpage of tar(1). Thanks There already is a note, at the very end of the manpage: There are alternative long options for many of the short options that are deliberately not documented. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 15:26:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9AB9106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from victorsubervi@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833A68FC0A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:26:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so564573qwe.7 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:26:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IHWAB1oVV0aEoiV5jLBJ1Jqw5U/OZ0mfPbQfwzRIcrA=; b=rpNnfWSrutYsMxA5XdIf+hsZxXxLdFIUt+dWO1Me+9S7q5I4mfVyV1hRxZATNw9eAX 78nF//zAbXK72EdH4qu66Brng5admW4up4/g7n9B9/E+iPbo3H++RHN6e0kvE3Af/FCf wi68xrUBX9bIJdH701MvYjOERCgvArHsrmhKE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fFDchtw+cFVLsX9Ijk58PTmF+Puhvj2mYhdoQ8UOvtq4xpQc5nO2aFf4L0eqwYL4VN peta/8KWwfQZJ1GB9//svq/Lf4PLarb7lz+NGj0jOFFP+ZO2XijXDEhySkX7HL+wuFUF KRUnCtEWa/cu5Iv84+Nc+X8NHoU5cXmuseMwM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.37.74 with SMTP id w10mr1541034qcd.73.1255101995491; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:26:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4dc0cfea0910090820i4aa1c7e8ia9512d2cd2fde9bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <4dc0cfea0910090719s36c43d89q124c3aa0923d629a@mail.gmail.com> <868054.78039.qm@web51006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4dc0cfea0910090820i4aa1c7e8ia9512d2cd2fde9bb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:26:35 -0500 Message-ID: <4dc0cfea0910090826o423f21d1t2617593dc358dc74@mail.gmail.com> From: Victor Subervi To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Automatic chmod X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:26:36 -0000 I should have mentioned the import of the login works for other scripts, so that is not the issue. V On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Victor Subervi wrote: > User? I only have one user on this shared server. Here's the code: > > #!/usr/local/bin/python > import cgitb; cgitb.enable() > import MySQLdb > import cgi > import sys,os > sys.path.append(os.getcwd()) > from login import login > user, passwd, db, host = login() > form = cgi.FieldStorage() > picid = int(form['id'].value) > x = int(form['x'].value) > pics = {1:'pic1',2:'pic2',3:'pic3',4:'pic4',5:'pic5',6:'pic6'} > pic = pics[x] > db = MySQLdb.connect(host=host, user=user, passwd=passwd, db=db) > cursor= db.cursor() > sql = "select " + pic + " from productsX where id='" + str(picid) + "';" > cursor.execute(sql) > content = cursor.fetchall()[0][0].tostring() > cursor.close() > print '''Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Encoding: base64 > ''' > print > print content.encode('base64') > > TIA, > V > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Richard Mahlerwein wrote: > >> >From: Victor Subervi >> >Subject: Automatic chmod >> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> >Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 10:19 AM >> > >> >Hi; >> >I have a python script that automatically writes another script. I need >> to >> >be able to automatically chmod the script so that it will execute. Also, >> it >> >appears that's not enough, because when I manually chmod the script >> (775), >> >it throws this error: >> >fopen: Permission denied >> >TIA, >> >V >> >> What user are you running this under? Without seeing code, my first guess >> is that you are trying to open a file you don't have permission to open. >> The chmod you are doing only affects the script's permissions, not the >> permissions of the files it may touch. >> >> For more, I suggest posting the code itself. >> >> -Rich >> >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 15:28:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E641065670; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647FE8FC14; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99FS9QV025342; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:28:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n99FS90I025341; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:28:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:28:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200910091528.n99FS90I025341@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, randi@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:28:25 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, randi@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:28:27 -0000 Randi Harper wrote: > / = 1GB > /var = 2GB > /tmp = 2GB Depending on the size of installed RAM, /tmp could also be a memory disk by default. I do that on all of my machines. I never have /tmp physically on disk anywhere. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd > Can the denizens of this group enlighten me about what the > advantages of Python are, versus Perl ? "python" is more likely to pass unharmed through your spelling checker than "perl". -- An unknown poster and Fredrik Lundh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 15:34:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A146C106568D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A628FC1D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so6631592fxm.36 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:34:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tAHCVBYQFJxHcK4tGB6fwX9iY1CqsD82UXJhLfGlYL8=; b=aVjyQBJOXTG3HJu2h+NPC4PBXxxQhTTIKHuUg0oQv3XEZtIPui7PWzTJn/3gVPLdsg L9Bof5HlE4ASDU8DoT2+oq1nxymEAAyTo1cUqEYEbEYYLmeI13OaFKb5mFNfLpoxA3yT hqCP6wQRs/qxy9eFkt3tWvkQRNayQF5pXSK8I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jfgyD5xAY3wK4lsAPtjTAQ2r2DvCVM977s0AIZtO6M7jNqXSBOlig06b9PKvefxXXD nWsHpJl2nfKPviwKqrqLHm9E32HuQxKRllqbpZbQ2cDNuDE5kRtCAeoKnWrAmRT9pCfZ btzBNCNgcGoCSZwAIACndrfJsvIIzOuPpBxPU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.149 with SMTP id s21mr146039hba.141.1255102485564; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:34:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200910091528.n99FS90I025341@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200910091528.n99FS90I025341@lurza.secnetix.de> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:34:45 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, randi@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:34:47 -0000 2009/10/9 Oliver Fromme > Randi Harper wrote: > > / =3D 1GB > > /var =3D 2GB > > /tmp =3D 2GB > > Depending on the size of installed RAM, /tmp could also > be a memory disk by default. I do that on all of my > machines. I never have /tmp physically on disk anywhere. > > Best regards > Oliver > > -- > Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. > Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Gesch=E4ftsfuehrun= g: > secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht M=FC= n- > chen, HRB 125758, Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Geb= hart > > FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd > > > Can the denizens of this group enlighten me about what the > > advantages of Python are, versus Perl ? > "python" is more likely to pass unharmed through your spelling > checker than "perl". > -- An unknown poster and Fredrik Lundh > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > personally i prefer the following layout which i use on work kit. The smallest drives we have are 76 gb sas / 4gb /tmp 4gb /var 8GB /home 4gb swap at least as big as ram on box /usr/local all the rest From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 15:47:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61949106568B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2FB8FC12 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n99FlN4I043874; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:47:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0A7F0BAAC; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:47:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:47:23 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Message-ID: <20091009154723.GA90880@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4ACEAD18.9070000@gmail.com> <20091009061155.GA75746@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4ACED5C6.8060605@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4ACED5C6.8060605@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set device permissions at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:47:25 -0000 --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 02:18:46AM -0400, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 11:25:12PM -0400, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > > =20 > >> Since certain currently unused devices are not created in /dev=20 > >> (specifically in my case /dev/fuse*) how do I tell what ever (I can't= =20 > >> tell it is devfs or what) to always make /dev/fuse* (when needed) with= =20 > >> 777 perms (the security implications are not an issue here) > > > > See devfs.rules(5). >=20 > Should of been more specific in the orginal question then I added a rule= =20 > and since the device doesn't exist at devfs mount time it does not honor= =20 > the rule Do you have a ruleset named in /etc/devfs.rules? And is it enabled in /etc/rc.conf? Have you restarted devfs after changing /etc/devfs.rules? Can you post your /etc/devfs.rules, and the output of 'devfs rule show'? Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrPWwsACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWpBgCfTUWWwh3lZwB9bi9MS02tqQ9o umcAoI0oi96MJ0c2XWXMUj7I/HqlkhRL =AgAu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 16:03:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698A6106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92A78FC17 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:03:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n99G3Zex076388; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:03:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C6650BA96; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:03:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:03:34 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091009160334.GB90880@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4ACED156.1030609@gmail.com> <200910091034.n99AYLwH015037@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200910091034.n99AYLwH015037@lurza.secnetix.de> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: aryeh.friedman@gmail.com, Oliver Fromme Subject: Re: How to set device permissions at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:03:37 -0000 --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 12:34:21PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > > Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > > > Den 9. okt. 2009 kl. 05.25 skrev "Aryeh M. Friedman"=20 > > > : > > >=20 > > > > Since certain currently unused devices are not created in /dev=20 > > > > (specifically in my case /dev/fuse*) how do I tell what ever (I ca= n't=20 > > > > tell it is devfs or what) to always make /dev/fuse* (when needed)= =20 > > > > with 777 perms (the security implications are not an issue here) > > >=20 > > > Have you tried devfs.rules(5)? > >=20 > > yes and since the device doesn't exist at the mount time for devfs the= y=20 > > are ignored >=20 > Then you did something wrong, or you're confusing devfs.rules > and devfs.conf. >=20 > Quote from the manpage: > "The devfs.rules file provides an easy way to create and apply > devfs(8) rules, even for devices that are not available at boot." >=20 > The rules take effect whenever a new node (devide) appears, > even after devfs was mounted. But one has to run '/etc/rc.d/devfs restart' for newly added rules to take effect! (or reboot the system, which is overkill). You can try it out by adding a rule to /etc/devfs.rules and running 'devfs rule show' (as root). The new rule won't show up until after one has run 'etc/rc.d/devfs restart'. Maybe I whould add that to the manual page for devfs.rules? I thought this = was obvious, because most if not all rc.d scripts work that way, but mayby it's not clear enough. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrPXtYACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXgCwCgkWtKirIAFB2zOad8POrzIY6a OeAAnRwnIra6zDZU0FLQjGyYtuIU7zcA =+udU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 16:07:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CC01065695 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90E78FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so19478645ywh.7 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:07:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=4KBz9siTl/i47Q/Bs01go9jfOIOx9E1Rl5IdK7IRCJg=; b=FYdU0zDAscmuplaQfGY/XfZ3GgO35hbBiB9zsAu0AcicEl9dAdPSzpXEMbZO3vngas rCzoi1KhTuFYke7JAsvmqspzxjT6W9FuURbIWgeruD3KpDpx/FFLUNOZ9W5H/wVZUjak 9y3WlpV3ILTYWDO1rXpMPYHHKcz+Li2ScWWaU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=q6qCzlCEqJtEPrOqI0rEkRuI6lzKbYpFuSzFOg4YAGWUtF+spGc3Xga8eVL6KJQAid DydhKWY0PQIFfv6X4fOlmEjJbtdrLZ4gGxKAXb3qA5uA8F61c4lOfh+IJqJG6HZygRLw l+3n3OER5un7C3JclmuCrSeKHJtXxl32W7D3U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.235.5 with SMTP id i5mr4983583ybh.271.1255104462873; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:07:42 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0910090907n7082a50brab5cdfc1cc4ca183@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: ipfw - TRAFFIC SHAPER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:07:44 -0000 I'm trying to fight with ipfw and unfortunately unsuccessfully... I created following rules ipfw pipe 1 config bw 1Mbit/s ifpw add 8080 pipe 1 tcp from any to any src-port www ifpw add 8080 pipe 1 tcp from any to any dst-port www yet I see peaks of my traffic is way higher them 1Mbit/s i have following modules loaded through kldload 2 3 0xffffffff80cd3000 15db8 ipfw.ko 5 1 0xffffffff80cec000 bbc8 dummynet.ko i even load 10 1 0xffffffff80e7d000 14df ipdivert.ko and that still didn't help :( can anyone help me? -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 16:28:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDB61065694 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:28:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B728FC12 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99GSC9D006364; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:28:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n99GSC9D006364 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1255105704; bh=ujI36ulw0YB8SYDUjvq1cpsYzhGH1i6sC3HaWixPLTQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4ACF6495.7070003@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20F ri,=2009=20Oct=202009=2017:28:05=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20090823)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20=3D?windows-1251?Q?=3DC2=3DEB=3DE0=3DE4=3DE8=3DEC =3DE8=3DF0_=3DD0=3DEE=3DEC=3DE0=3DED=3DEE=3DE2?=3D=0D=0A=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re :=20Russian=20Translator|References:=20<530883385.1255100350.15518 4812.34257@mcgi29.rambler.ru>|In-Reply-To:=20<530883385.1255100350 .155184812.34257@mcgi29.rambler.ru>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|C ontent-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A= 20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"-- ----------enigDE57F70123A984E5A0849141"; b=Vw0Ib4uFGQtkEyYJnkmX/VoHAoltiDeBfC/mXbWYs0BplJU++SFOkelIf3fM25riJ VrqAOJRd5ysfVlFVuEgP/3bViRf6zweJCyiR6ROt7qqi1CcIXWDcn6u32QfUMBUoBA 3iZ2DDgD+dbEVuZjywe3GBI17kM5GZ1cKKxqVIko= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4ACF6495.7070003@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:28:05 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090823) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?windows-1251?Q?=C2=EB=E0=E4=E8=EC=E8=F0_=D0=EE=EC=E0=ED=EE=E2?= References: <530883385.1255100350.155184812.34257@mcgi29.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: <530883385.1255100350.155184812.34257@mcgi29.rambler.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDE57F70123A984E5A0849141" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Russian Translator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:28:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDE57F70123A984E5A0849141 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C2=EB=E0=E4=E8=EC=E8=F0 =D0=EE=EC=E0=ED=EE=E2 wrote: > Hi there. >=20 > I want to be the translator from English to Russian in freebsd.com. ITYM freebsd.org ? > I see, that in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/ > there is written: > Copyright=20 > [http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/LEGALNOTICE.html]= =20 > =A9 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005,=20 > 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 The FreeBSD Documentation Project >=20 > But in the Russian page > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq/ >=20 > Only > Copyright=20 > [http://www.freebsd.org/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq/LEGALNOTICE.html] =A9= =20 > 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 = > The FreeBSD Documentation Project >=20 > So, the page in Russian is 3 years old. May i translate new FAQ and=20 > commit it to the freebsd.org? freebsd-doc@freebsd.org is the best mailing list for discussing translati= ng documentation / FAQS / website. I believe there is a fairly active Russi= an translation group with which the people over in freebsd-doc@... will be a= ble to put you in touch. Any volunteers to help out would be most welcome. Any work you do on translating documents should be submitted via the PR s= ystem in the first instance for review and committal. It's only once you've established a track record for producing good, accurate work that you wou= ld be considered for a commit-bit yourself. Cheers Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigDE57F70123A984E5A0849141 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkrPZJwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxHtQCfRye54/VTmrs1VgvZ6soQ6gXd lKkAoI6WIUxt+Npt1NGQhKVhl+E8kfh2 =44iY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDE57F70123A984E5A0849141-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 16:54:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585191065672 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16338FC16 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99GrsDL028288; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:54:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n99Grsfg028286; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:53:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <200910091653.n99Grsfg028286@lurza.secnetix.de> To: rsmith@xs4all.nl (Roland Smith) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:53:53 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20091009160334.GB90880@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:54:09 +0200 (CEST) Cc: aryeh.friedman@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set device permissions at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:54:12 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Quote from the manpage: > > "The devfs.rules file provides an easy way to create and apply > > devfs(8) rules, even for devices that are not available at boot." > > > > The rules take effect whenever a new node (devide) appears, > > even after devfs was mounted. > > But one has to run '/etc/rc.d/devfs restart' for newly added rules to take > effect! (or reboot the system, which is overkill). Yes, of course. I thought that was obvious. > Maybe I whould add that to the manual page for devfs.rules? Agreed, that might be an appropriate clarification. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd With Perl you can manipulate text, interact with programs, talk over networks, drive Web pages, perform arbitrary precision arithmetic, and write programs that look like Snoopy swearing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 16:57:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D976106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:57:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-ml@gehlbach.com) Received: from mail1.gehlbach.com (mail1.gehlbach.com [204.255.230.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B645F8FC0A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.gehlbach.com (localhost.gehlbach.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.gehlbach.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99Gv61a062801 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:57:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fbsd-ml@gehlbach.com) Received: from 204.255.230.80 (SquirrelMail authenticated user fbsd-ml) by mail1.gehlbach.com with HTTP; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:57:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <714a6980f53082ec41a527e44158128d.squirrel@mail1.gehlbach.com> References: <714a6980f53082ec41a527e44158128d.squirrel@mail1.gehlbach.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:57:06 -0400 (EDT) From: fbsd-ml@gehlbach.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Upgrade to 7.2 broke network connections-SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:57:08 -0000 I tried booting up with ACPI disabled, and suddenly the network connections worked like a charm. Thanks, Renee Gehlbach > Today I updated a server from 6.4 to 7.2. I cvsup'ed, built world, built > kernel, installed kernel, installed world, mergemastered, and rebooted. > And sat there, while ntpdate timed out trying to connect to four different > servers, while interface status messages slowly scrolled: > tx0: device timeout 2 packets > tx0: seems we can continue normally > rl0: watchdog timeout > > When it finally timed out, and I logged in, I found that I could ping > 127.0.0.1, I could ping 192.168.50.7 (tx0 interface), I could ping the rl0 > wan interface, I could not ping the gateway or anything outside of the > machine. > > Looking at dmesg later, I found the same timeout messages repeated again > and again, and I found further error messages: > tx0: reinitialization > tx0: ERROR! Can't stop TxDMA > tx0: ERROR! Unknown PHY selected > > and repeated periodically: > tx0: reinitialization > tx0: ERROR! Unknown PHY selected > > > I built and installed the generic kernel, and tried again. Same deal. I > disabled ipfilter and ntp in rc.conf, removed the configuration lines for > all but one interface, and rebooted. Same deal, just shorter boot time > without having to wait for ntpdate (grin) > > I thought, ok.....really old NICs. There were some warnings about > deprecated features in bootup. I took out both NICs and put in an Intel > Pro 10/100/1000 -- obviously supported. Same deal. > > I previously attempted to update this server several months ago, going > from 6.something to 7.1, and had this same problem. After several > frustrating days, I restored from backup and updated to latest 6.x, which > worked fine. > > So I assume that I have something configured wrong. If there were > hardware compatibility issues this big, this version would never have gone > to stable, and people would be screaming about it all over the mailing > lists. So my question is.....what should be my next troubleshooting step? > > Thanks for your time, > Renee Gehlbach > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 16:58:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F83D1065679 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentb@beanfield.com) Received: from smtp02.beanfield.com (smtp02.beanfield.com [76.9.193.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682828FC0A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.207.193.249] (helo=brent.local) by mta02.beanfield.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MwImd-0000xS-Pz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:57:35 -0400 Message-ID: <4ACF6B7F.7050408@beanfield.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:57:35 -0400 From: Brent Bloxam Organization: Beanfield Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6ae50c2d0910090907n7082a50brab5cdfc1cc4ca183@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0910090907n7082a50brab5cdfc1cc4ca183@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Beanfield-MTA01: OnNet (SMTPFROM) 66.207.193.249, brentb@beanfield.com (SMTPRCPT) freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-beanfield-mta02-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-beanfield-mta02-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-beanfield-mta02-MailScanner-From: brentb@beanfield.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: ipfw - TRAFFIC SHAPER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:58:01 -0000 alexus wrote: > I'm trying to fight with ipfw and unfortunately unsuccessfully... > > I created following rules > > ipfw pipe 1 config bw 1Mbit/s > ifpw add 8080 pipe 1 tcp from any to any src-port www > ifpw add 8080 pipe 1 tcp from any to any dst-port www > > yet I see peaks of my traffic is way higher them 1Mbit/s > i have following modules loaded through kldload > > 2 3 0xffffffff80cd3000 15db8 ipfw.ko > 5 1 0xffffffff80cec000 bbc8 dummynet.ko > > i even load > > 10 1 0xffffffff80e7d000 14df ipdivert.ko > > and that still didn't help :( > can anyone help me? > Do you have an ipfw rule allowing www traffic before rule 8080? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 17:01:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249581065679 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:01:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CA38FC0C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99H1AnV028832; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:01:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n99H19sq028830; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:01:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <200910091701.n99H19sq028830@lurza.secnetix.de> To: wblock@wonkity.com (Warren Block) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:01:09 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:01:25 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: for perl wizards. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:01:27 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a > > > text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be > > > used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate > > > hex back into ', ", -- [that's a dash), and so forth. Why does > > > this fail to trans the hex code to an apostrophe? > > > > > > perl -pi.bak -e 's/\xe2\x80\x99/'/g' > > > > You need to escape the inner quote character, of course. > > I think sed is better suited for this task than perl. > > That's twice now people have suggested sed instead of perl. Why? For > many uses, perl is a better sed than sed. The regex engine is far more > powerful and escapes are much simpler. Neither powerful regexes nor escapes will help in this case. A simple basic regex is more than sufficient (in fact this isn't even a regex, it's a fixed string). And the escaping is a problem of the shell, not perl or sed. And by the way, I stongly disagree that perl's escapes are much simpler. In my opinion perl has the most complex escaping and quoting I have seen in any language so far. The basic UNIX philosophy is to use the smallest or simplest tool that does the job. In this case that's clearly sed. (Not to mention the fact that perl isn't even in FreeBSD's base system, so might not be available at all.) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one?" -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 17:10:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD8B1065670 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5a.socket.net [216.106.26.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B2D8FC0A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jeflmedlele.mo.loc (unknown [65.117.48.155]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EA5639EA for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:10:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: From: Jay Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:10:36 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Capturing netflows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:10:38 -0000 I have run into a need to capture netflows from the internal interface of my FreeBSD 6 server. The internal interface is em0 and the external interface is em1. I am using the following to setup the netflows. /usr/sbin/ngctl -f- << SEQ mkpeer em0: netflow lower iface0 name: em0: lower netflow connect em0: netflow: upper out0 mkpeer netflow: ksocket export inet/dgram/udp msg netflow:export connect inet/1.2.3.4:12345 SEQ When I run the commands above, I receive the following message. ngctl: send msg: No such file or directory ngctl: line 1: error in file I am at a complete loss here. My understanding of netgraph is poor at best. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 17:22:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75837106568F for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D188FC0C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so6546915gxk.13 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NjoVaLzyaT3q3OcnYdd4zV3FM7DpAqoZTnuO+0g8hdE=; b=bldDI9IWTIBOwQ3zfL9+n0BkFm3o/Tbp+4la82rfsTIeFqLbcimcG2fpQboV84xeSD ASPumv4urge9k7D1vITLVjBx3VheKMwl5QpqiBNUtwMxps8B06S3PnHu+rLFTMt+Qfce 6EXZrDKI+WrtH6pzbegGojcbUUNahxn8gSDsg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OJv1aqRtwVobDzPAl7UEJUuclAo3yP8fUYlMA+FHODcb9GYC3BpA9YAyOIQfyzqWIk ylTvZHVFuG2hUVAHXB8dtB3Ki6WcDhEaN34f8h/k6H4ztVTboqX8gCwKU1VDta7u4lGd QCEcwv8YRJ0LQo5mF0m4nieFqSw3u8JIdOGhQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.236.9 with SMTP id j9mr5149478ybh.196.1255108948518; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACF6B7F.7050408@beanfield.com> References: <6ae50c2d0910090907n7082a50brab5cdfc1cc4ca183@mail.gmail.com> <4ACF6B7F.7050408@beanfield.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:22:28 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0910091022y380cbc90xd8c7599b80ef520d@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: Brent Bloxam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw - TRAFFIC SHAPER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:22:29 -0000 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Brent Bloxam wrote: > alexus wrote: >> >> I'm trying to fight with ipfw and unfortunately unsuccessfully... >> >> I created following rules >> >> ipfw pipe 1 config bw 1Mbit/s >> ifpw add 8080 pipe 1 tcp from any to any src-port www >> ifpw add 8080 pipe 1 tcp from any to any dst-port www >> >> yet I see peaks of my traffic is way higher them 1Mbit/s >> i have following modules loaded through kldload >> >> =C2=A02 =C2=A0 =C2=A03 0xffffffff80cd3000 15db8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ipfw.ko >> =C2=A05 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 0xffffffff80cec000 bbc8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 dummynet.ko >> >> i even load >> >> 10 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 0xffffffff80e7d000 14df =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ipdivert.ko >> >> and that still didn't help :( >> can anyone help me? >> > > Do you have an ipfw rule allowing www traffic before rule 8080? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > no, nothing related to www, in fact the only rules I have before that one is followings: 00100 19704 3856110 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00200 0 0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 00300 0 0 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any that's it... --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 17:23:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CE6106568D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB838FC1F for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:23:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so373666yxe.3 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 10:23:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CMuDXtM2Yv/0VoqaKdaEPICwdQ9gCFDKYYkOg73r9EY=; b=RhSJCAjQPueTpnkyxffFY/fTLDc4s/pBvnoSyOZYFGtSG0i57eMAwVCgHe38WtYntR j/dR5E+JHnQ8+VB82owDSwMOufPPRVHhDDZMg9ON9WNzcuFphvnkrGbL3jqnrlYjjzl7 oXHJDaIOyWH5crosaR0KXGLGZkW/vcDLMSNgc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dBBdMV5n1fUq+Y2C+jXkfPBK5Mjd8sy5xM82CVXFnz53MNpLKNvgfkglG61PS0wXWV 4nGG/8Ob2rs8MamHuUHb6jDouZTCyV3s30dhEgHr1ci7oXjzoiazqnZU3tsSW7nQN2lJ zRAPGtaMCMN7jnGaJP7cRn1zSmLoLOOVNuyoQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.115.8 with SMTP id n8mr5218036ybc.64.1255109032225; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 10:23:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0910091022y380cbc90xd8c7599b80ef520d@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ae50c2d0910090907n7082a50brab5cdfc1cc4ca183@mail.gmail.com> <4ACF6B7F.7050408@beanfield.com> <6ae50c2d0910091022y380cbc90xd8c7599b80ef520d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:23:52 -0400 Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0910091023w7656b5e7pa9421e6878ed05b5@mail.gmail.com> From: alexus To: Brent Bloxam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw - TRAFFIC SHAPER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:23:53 -0000 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:22 PM, alexus wrote: > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Brent Bloxam wrot= e: >> alexus wrote: >>> >>> I'm trying to fight with ipfw and unfortunately unsuccessfully... >>> >>> I created following rules >>> >>> ipfw pipe 1 config bw 1Mbit/s >>> ifpw add 8080 pipe 1 tcp from any to any src-port www >>> ifpw add 8080 pipe 1 tcp from any to any dst-port www >>> >>> yet I see peaks of my traffic is way higher them 1Mbit/s >>> i have following modules loaded through kldload >>> >>> =C2=A02 =C2=A0 =C2=A03 0xffffffff80cd3000 15db8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ipfw.ko >>> =C2=A05 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 0xffffffff80cec000 bbc8 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 dummynet.k= o >>> >>> i even load >>> >>> 10 =C2=A0 =C2=A01 0xffffffff80e7d000 14df =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ipdivert.ko >>> >>> and that still didn't help :( >>> can anyone help me? >>> >> >> Do you have an ipfw rule allowing www traffic before rule 8080? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >> > > no, nothing related to www, in fact the only rules I have before that > one is followings: > > 00100 19704 =C2=A0 3856110 allow ip from any to any via lo0 > 00200 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 deny ip from any to 1= 27.0.0.0/8 > 00300 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0 deny ip from 127.0.0.= 0/8 to any > > that's it... > > -- > http://alexus.org/ > the other thing is kind of weird is when I do ipfw pipe show I get same results no matter how many times I do that su-3.2# ipfw pipe show 00001: 2.000 Mbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte= Drp 0 tcp 72.21.81.133/80 64.237.55.83/51986 176846 168906331 44 56988 6909 su-3.2# --=20 http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 18:06:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883A9106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D28D8FC0A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:06:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99I6T5c029017; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:06:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n99I6TRn029014; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:06:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:06:29 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Oliver Fromme In-Reply-To: <200910091701.n99H19sq028830@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: References: <200910091701.n99H19sq028830@lurza.secnetix.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:06:29 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: for perl wizards. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:06:30 -0000 On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Warren Block wrote: > > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > > > Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a > > > > text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be > > > > used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate > > > > hex back into ', ", -- [that's a dash), and so forth. Why does > > > > this fail to trans the hex code to an apostrophe? > > > > > > > > perl -pi.bak -e 's/\xe2\x80\x99/'/g' > > > > > > You need to escape the inner quote character, of course. > > > I think sed is better suited for this task than perl. > > > > That's twice now people have suggested sed instead of perl. Why? For > > many uses, perl is a better sed than sed. The regex engine is far more > > powerful and escapes are much simpler. > > Neither powerful regexes nor escapes will help in this case. Certainly \x will not help in sed; sed doesn't have it. > A simple basic regex is more than sufficient (in fact this > isn't even a regex, it's a fixed string). And the escaping > is a problem of the shell, not perl or sed. And by the way, > I stongly disagree that perl's escapes are much simpler. > In my opinion perl has the most complex escaping and quoting > I have seen in any language so far. I was thinking of the escapes needed for sed that should not be needed. Some of those are shell problems, many are due to the regex library. More basic things than \x are missing. \t, for instance, or useful \s instead of picking spaces or tabs or trying to navigate using | in sed expressions. > The basic UNIX philosophy is to use the smallest or simplest > tool that does the job. In this case that's clearly sed. Since sed doesn't have \x, it would appear that sed does not do the job. Maybe I just don't see it. And in most cases, the external simplicity of a tool is more important to the user than its internals. Put another way, if you have it, and it does a better/easier/faster job, why *not* use it? > (Not to mention the fact that perl isn't even in FreeBSD's > base system, so might not be available at all.) But the OP is using it, so that's clearly not the case here. Or in most FreeBSD installations. It's possible "Mastering Regular Expressions" has influenced my thinking on this. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 18:29:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A14106568B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6875A8FC13 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99ITSkm031875; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:29:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n99ITRFG031873; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:29:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <200910091829.n99ITRFG031873@lurza.secnetix.de> To: wblock@wonkity.com (Warren Block) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:29:27 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:29:43 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: for perl wizards. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:29:45 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Warren Block wrote: > > > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a > > > > > text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be > > > > > used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate > > > > > hex back into ', ", -- [that's a dash), and so forth. Why does > > > > > this fail to trans the hex code to an apostrophe? > > > > > > > > > > perl -pi.bak -e 's/\xe2\x80\x99/'/g' > > > > > > > > You need to escape the inner quote character, of course. > > > > I think sed is better suited for this task than perl. > > > > > > That's twice now people have suggested sed instead of perl. Why? For > > > many uses, perl is a better sed than sed. The regex engine is far more > > > powerful and escapes are much simpler. > > > > Neither powerful regexes nor escapes will help in this case. > > Certainly \x will not help in sed; sed doesn't have it. Right, that's an annoying flaw in sed (it doesn't even support the \0 syntax for octal values, which is more standard than \x). Normally I just type such characters literally, which is accepted fine by sed (it is 8 bit clean). However, in this particular case I really recommend to use the "recode" tool (ports/conversion/recode) to convert from UTF-8 to some other encoding. Much easier, and more correct. E2-80-99 (unicode 2019) isn't even a real apostrophe in UTF-8, it's a right single quotation mark. An apostrophe would be ASCII 27. Maybe the OP should configure his software to not save the file with UTF-8 encoding in the first place. I'm not an OOo user, so I can't tell how to do that. But obviously the OP doesn't want the file to be stored as UTF-8. > It's possible "Mastering Regular Expressions" has influenced my thinking > on this. This isn't about regular expressions at all. This is about replacing fixed strings. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." -- Robert Firth From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 18:34:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08B2106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:34:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219CF8FC12 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so6777452fxm.36 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:34:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Dc780IGpyas/g0mis96gx090wRK7NcDAaYKkcExVuzU=; b=TLgB6bjwZZsgk0EHaNqV4L8UplOHkIzLHLiyNSVTi5WFw7o4UHzqeh15Dn8gCdzpgO 4hcPj+ZM5K14CChTizDtgNU7+HpLBqOzfOjxlg/wn4YU8jG0Ip7wlTUCytlUB4Ta80Jw yS7wtXS3lwQu7cypQbGucqzYo+OdSd6WYuC5Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VrQU4xN0yOw6Ix3/vMkjhHwPY2SImUsTpX7M8N+CEj1HPQ2rj9BpdUov1/TJKethsF WTgw5Rq3XteC7+4vRMEBWVUrhYnhAcrijikHjXQUWPbEW7dJy9KL8gDX81TH185DnDGs 40DUOkdVzwuKit0Kpfao9Wp57WYr15pM2jBOo= Received: by 10.103.78.22 with SMTP id f22mr1265268mul.14.1255113243624; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s11sm644781mue.41.2009.10.09.11.34.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ACF8218.1080306@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:34:00 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090915) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Fromme References: <200910091653.n99Grsfg028286@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200910091653.n99Grsfg028286@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set device permissions at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:34:06 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: > > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > Quote from the manpage: > > > "The devfs.rules file provides an easy way to create and apply > > > devfs(8) rules, even for devices that are not available at boot." > > > > > > The rules take effect whenever a new node (devide) appears, > > > even after devfs was mounted. > > > > But one has to run '/etc/rc.d/devfs restart' for newly added rules to take > > effect! (or reboot the system, which is overkill). > > Yes, of course. I thought that was obvious. > > > Maybe I whould add that to the manual page for devfs.rules? > > Agreed, that might be an appropriate clarification. > > Best regards > Oliver > > It should be included because not everyone uses the standard /etc/rc.* hierachy. For example I have a completely custom rc which before I did an other hack to make this issue not an issue read: #!/bin/sh PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/boot/kernel:/boot/modules export PATH kldload fuse swapon -a fsck -p mount -rw / mount -a sysctl vfs.usermount=1 ntfs-3g /dev/ad4s1 /mnt/c /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald onestart hostname aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com ifconfig ale0 192.168.2.2 ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1 route add 127.0.0.1 102.168.2.2 route add default 192.168.2.1 named ntpdate pool.ntp.org cupsd noip2 sendmail -bd -q1m From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 18:38:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A251B10656C0 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BB58FC26 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 429B6471825 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:38:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC253865B4 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:38:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:35:20 +0200 Message-Id: <200910092035.AA2862088496@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Len Conrad" X-Sender: To: X-Mailer: Subject: postfix/amavids/sa/etc in FreeBSD jail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:38:03 -0000 is a FreeBSD jail enough of a virtualized OS to run a full filtering MX config setup exactly as on a native FreeBSD? Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 18:40:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720ED1065672 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s17.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s17.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4664B8FC36 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT103-W35 ([65.55.90.200]) by snt0-omc4-s17.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 9 Oct 2009 11:28:50 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [219.67.152.99] From: Marwan Sultan To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:28:50 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2009 18:28:50.0505 (UTC) FILETIME=[59006B90:01CA490E] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:40:52 -0000 Hello Gurus=2C =20 Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm= for many years. But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 This server will be a DNS server=2C apache=2C shell accounts..php=2C mys= ql.. =20 anything i should be aware of? Advices? =20 Thank you. Marwan =0A= _________________________________________________________________=0A= Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.=0A= http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 18:48:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC4D1065693 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:48:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0BC68FC17 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so19909806ywh.7 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:48:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=BKqTm5ILKDI1vcObVAR/pmD65baQ06eu8WbjY3g0ovI=; b=IKEVMft7xE9KRj0r9btgTHXgYFkk8GjO5BNPMKu5vUEcZCXjLqxv7oKcerx79DMUZp tM+vwvIYd12lP0l7A6F3EwU7tCh82LD4ejIUQHG5/CMLOI/Ghi6NjPrrH2aePdGKIT19 jx2uGLs7wRrNfU4iMPpv3/T5dS5uouQ/eVwa4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=L9OSl2VR64ysQvKMlMLmW5HNYFPzqKcDwVRs/ZEhr82R3Cc1/paL1FUNST9NufJS4s 1bPqDKPNEJcYjktFyzDBun6+qYIbxrK8IrOd7JZ/HhpSxJgDciSI6KGGThXqfSPjjG5k CRyjF1EIOI5sL36bF4hDJwp/mzxDm8WnunM+A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.130.39 with SMTP id c39mr5246065ybd.338.1255114138442; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 11:48:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:48:58 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0910091148k14a6836an558295aaed34c97d@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Marwan Sultan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:48:59 -0000 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Marwan Sultan wrote: > > Hello Gurus, > > > > Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm > for many years. > > But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 > > This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql.. > > > > anything i should be aware of? > > Advices? > > > > Thank you. > > Marwan > > 7.2 6.4 is the last release in 6.x so no 6.3 unless specifically needed. 8.0 is nearly here. Do a clean install, it will be easier for you in the long run. Probably easiest to do a trial run by installing to VM first eg VirtualBox guest. You wouldn't find hardware issues, but you might work out the exact steps you'll need to take to help minimize downtime. /usr/src/UPDATING can give you some specific info. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 18:56:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09DA1065672 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2C88FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id C941A16B581; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:56:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.84]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 31C9516B585; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:56:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:47:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:47:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091009134605.F95011@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <200910091026.n99AQPUv014685@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html Cc: Oliver Fromme , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: for perl wizards. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:56:25 -0000 On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Oliver Fromme wrote: > >> Gary Kline wrote: >> > >> > Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a >> > text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be >> > used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate >> > hex back into ', ", -- [that's a dash), and so forth. Why does >> > this fail to trans the hex code to an apostrophe? >> > >> > perl -pi.bak -e 's/\xe2\x80\x99/'/g' >> >> You need to escape the inner quote character, of course. >> I think sed is better suited for this task than perl. > > That's twice now people have suggested sed instead of perl. Why? For many > uses, perl is a better sed than sed. The regex engine is far more powerful > and escapes are much simpler. Because sed is stable and perl is getting all OO and flaky. Sed will work like sed for so long as there are unix-like systems. It is not clear that perl is going to continue to work. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 19:00:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACA51065676 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6318FC0A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman-macbook.local ([10.0.0.173]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99J3R1F060900 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:03:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4ACF8840.1030600@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:00:16 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay Hall References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Capturing netflows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:00:19 -0000 Jay Hall wrote: > I have run into a need to capture netflows from the internal interface > of my FreeBSD 6 server. The internal interface is em0 and the > external interface is em1. > > I am using the following to setup the netflows. > > /usr/sbin/ngctl -f- << SEQ > mkpeer em0: netflow lower iface0 > name: em0: lower netflow > connect em0: netflow: upper out0 > mkpeer netflow: ksocket export inet/dgram/udp > msg netflow:export connect inet/1.2.3.4:12345 > SEQ > > When I run the commands above, I receive the following message. > > ngctl: send msg: No such file or directory > ngctl: line 1: error in file > > I am at a complete loss here. My understanding of netgraph is poor at > best. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > Been a while since I used it but I used to use this script based on this email http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg103671.html #!/usr/sbin/ngctl -f mkpeer fxp0: tee lower right connect fxp0: fxp0:lower upper left mkpeer fxp0:lower netflow right2left iface0 name fxp0:lower.right2left netflow mkpeer netflow: ksocket export inet/dgram/udp msg netflow:export connect inet/w.x.y.x:6667 hope that helps, Vince > Thanks, > > Jay > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 19:05:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6414106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:05:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3428FC0C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio MailServer 6.7.2) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:05:25 -0400 References: Message-Id: <13EB5F63-E8D2-47EA-8E56-F052B697EBB8@olivent.com> From: Mikel King To: Marwan Sultan In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:04:42 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:05:28 -0000 On Oct 9, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Marwan Sultan wrote: > > Hello Gurus, > > > > Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a > charm for many years. > > But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 > > This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, > mysql.. > > > > anything i should be aware of? > > Advices? > > > > Thank you. > > Marwan Recommend sticking with 7.x branch until 8.0 has been through one or two solid releases. Then you should be able to perform a csup and rebuild the world to the current version of 8.x at the time. Regards, Mikel King CEO, Olivent Technologies Senior Editor, BSD News Network Columnist, BSD Magazine 6 Alpine Court, Medford, NY 11763 o: 631.627.3055 skype:mikel.king http://olivent.com http://mikelking.com http://twitter.com/mikelking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 19:10:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26BD1065670 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C4A8FC1A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99J9rkf033893; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:10:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n99J9rPe033892; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:09:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <200910091909.n99J9rPe033892@lurza.secnetix.de> To: aryeh.friedman@gmail.com (Aryeh M. Friedman) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:09:53 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <4ACF8218.1080306@gmail.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:10:09 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set device permissions at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:10:11 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Roland Smith wrote: > > > But one has to run '/etc/rc.d/devfs restart' for newly added rules to take > > > effect! (or reboot the system, which is overkill). > > > > Yes, of course. I thought that was obvious. > > > > > Maybe I whould add that to the manual page for devfs.rules? > > > > Agreed, that might be an appropriate clarification. > > It should be included because not everyone uses the standard /etc/rc.* > hierachy. For example I have a completely custom rc which before I did > an other hack to make this issue not an issue read: Well, if you completely rewrite /etc/rc, then you're on your own anyway, and you're supposed to know what you're doing. In general it is not a good idea and will lead to serious foot-shooting. By the way, what is the reason that you don't use the standard rc(8) facilities? I don't see anything in you custom script that wouldn't be covered by them. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. 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Ritchie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 19:19:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7491065676 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275968FC1E for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99JJcR3029268; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:19:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n99JJcEB029265; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:19:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:19:38 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Oliver Fromme In-Reply-To: <200910091829.n99ITRFG031873@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: References: <200910091829.n99ITRFG031873@lurza.secnetix.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:19:38 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: for perl wizards. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:19:39 -0000 On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Warren Block wrote: > > > > Certainly \x will not help in sed; sed doesn't have it. > > Right, that's an annoying flaw in sed (it doesn't even > support the \0 syntax for octal values, which is more > standard than \x). >From my perspective, sed is a tiny, gooey center of usefulness nearly completely obscured by annoying flaws. That's not fair to sed, since most of its flaws can be more fairly described as legacy behavior. > Maybe the OP should configure his software to not save the > file with UTF-8 encoding in the first place. I'm not an > OOo user, so I can't tell how to do that. But obviously > the OP doesn't want the file to be stored as UTF-8. Sure. That removes the need for any of these tools. > > It's possible "Mastering Regular Expressions" has influenced my thinking > > on this. > > This isn't about regular expressions at all. This is > about replacing fixed strings. The OP was using a regex. But my question was "why sed instead of Perl?" tr(1) was also suggested, and is probably better than sed in this case. Of course, tr is another tool that Perl can replace with added functionality. Likewise Ruby, which has about the same command-line options as Perl but is less likely to be installed on a typical FreeBSD system. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 19:31:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04B0106568D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FA38FC17 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so857112bwz.43 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:31:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lkAtwkRZoTx6+akp7kbMbTVG7DoOILO+U/gAj0j/hog=; b=r9BmFiXv8kHL8VJnjlbsaNS9k4WbQ1+k7gOXA4eYMFZ2WZj/PpbiyiLa6sh5o1ZpNU 6UKqjnenVvctdKdc0vsuADVY0oIqXbxRZbL+cSRbS0GEKehBChiXkojHUy7NaxqTobto arHx/7Z//OkNNOChsa6WqOLL+hB1KqUOoM4Ug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gkNhrXVJ/tgCDLZtq+htbCmCtMs9ISauhXZEUT9b3+7aq/drlbZJoVNPRbCbtrXfIc pC7B8+SoHUJjIQtmVyXJrfs4V9aMZc8PeknT6r5kz9MLh7D8jU3ZW+jtWDholh7qG+Tl F35jB/ApGUrf2o1mMhtVYZlAIHVOT9OgYlMe4= Received: by 10.103.85.28 with SMTP id n28mr1249375mul.66.1255116660866; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14sm1232791muo.45.2009.10.09.12.30.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 12:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4ACF8F72.1010700@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:30:58 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090915) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Fromme References: <200910091909.n99J9rPe033892@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200910091909.n99J9rPe033892@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set device permissions at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:31:02 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > Roland Smith wrote: > > > > But one has to run '/etc/rc.d/devfs restart' for newly added rules to take > > > > effect! (or reboot the system, which is overkill). > > > > > > Yes, of course. I thought that was obvious. > > > > > > > Maybe I whould add that to the manual page for devfs.rules? > > > > > > Agreed, that might be an appropriate clarification. > > > > It should be included because not everyone uses the standard /etc/rc.* > > hierachy. For example I have a completely custom rc which before I did > > an other hack to make this issue not an issue read: > > Well, if you completely rewrite /etc/rc, then you're on > your own anyway, and you're supposed to know what you're > doing. In general it is not a good idea and will lead > to serious foot-shooting. > > By the way, what is the reason that you don't use the > standard rc(8) facilities? I don't see anything in you > custom script that wouldn't be covered by them. > > Mostly a matter of style... namely I personally like to know every last detail of how my machine boots (even having the hald and dbus onestarts is too much relience on "magic code" (code that works but is overly complex and hard to understand) but I was not able to deduce by reading their startup srcipts/man pages/ps -agx listings what args they needed so had to use the rc.d's)... in general it is a "bad thing" to have code that is not 100% user understandable (read not 100% author unreadable)... the metaphor I often give is it is like the difference between a modern computer controlled car and say a model T or VW bug (the first being so complex that only an expert can work on it and the second being simple enough that any mechincally inclined owner can work on it)... same thing with devfs (an other common example is ipfw and natd [those man pages are greate because if you read them close enough it tells you everything you need to know to set up a vpn router/firewall from scratch).... there are a number of cases where stuff is not fully documented for stuff like this in the base system and/or ports (sysutils/fusefs-ntfs is a classic example because it fails to state that you need to export the PATH with /usr/loca/sbin on it) Bottom line 99% of the "weird" aspects in my rc (calling rc.d's and such) are due to incomplete documentation From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 19:36:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A085B106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4A48FC15 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99JaHax008843; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:36:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n99JaHax008843 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1255116978; bh=YwBp2IBg2Azu0YHZUc39CCL12XLSzpkeZEFntrztrKA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4ACF90AA.6030702@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20F ri,=2009=20Oct=202009=2020:36:10=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20090823)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Oliver=20Fromme=20|CC:=20 Warren=20Block=20,=20freebsd-questions@freebsd .org|Subject:=20Re:=20for=20perl=20wizards.|References:=20<2009100 91829.n99ITRFG031873@lurza.secnetix.de>|In-Reply-To:=20<2009100918 29.n99ITRFG031873@lurza.secnetix.de>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6| Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A =20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"- -----------enig365B0974802E8C95BE191CC2"; b=Iuys8nvE4VU+7n0xRPLtJ8ywYSUUpTdjgKDmOnYwZTz7ZH9IEfd6uRqETRktneeaH 71VXwHYPJNjdUQfJfYNdGcnqqkdeq/dTY3JaEW2LNjOkQoHj9nZNN434nkVcL7jlU7 Lm8wfcj96AuJZLybFt2z11Q8KGKofqgbLDM+L1z4= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4ACF90AA.6030702@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:36:10 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090823) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Fromme References: <200910091829.n99ITRFG031873@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200910091829.n99ITRFG031873@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig365B0974802E8C95BE191CC2" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: for perl wizards. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:36:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig365B0974802E8C95BE191CC2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oliver Fromme wrote: =20 > This isn't about regular expressions at all. This is > about replacing fixed strings. Fixed strings are regular expressions. Pretty unexciting ones, but perfectly valid none the less. This has been your daily pedantry minute. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig365B0974802E8C95BE191CC2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkrPkLEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyPXgCeJkRhbmleWyrTQbV3RwtRSt2g CjMAn0wZa0NmUKaEnvkJp4fMznwedROl =0YyD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig365B0974802E8C95BE191CC2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 19:40:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD02106568B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:40:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6B78FC1E for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16C31DD9C; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:40:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n99JeW8N001773; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:40:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:40:32 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Mikel King Message-Id: <20091009214032.2cecf345.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <13EB5F63-E8D2-47EA-8E56-F052B697EBB8@olivent.com> References: <13EB5F63-E8D2-47EA-8E56-F052B697EBB8@olivent.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Marwan Sultan Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:40:35 -0000 On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:04:42 -0400, Mikel King wrote: > Recommend sticking with 7.x branch until 8.0 has been through one or > two solid releases. Then you should be able to perform a csup and > rebuild the world to the current version of 8.x at the time. So you would not recommend 8 (as RC1 at the state of the moment) for commercial use. Regarding your explaination, I do understand this. It's often mentioned that x.0 releases aren't "that good". But allow me a follow-up question: Is 8.0-RC1 already recommendable for a home desktop, or would 7.2 be the version of choice? I'm asking this because of the many improvements especially the USB subsystem has gotten in 8 which would be important for the "plug and play experience" for USB devices... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 19:57:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A38106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:57:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5018FC13 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99JvC1O009112; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:57:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n99JvC1O009112 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1255118234; bh=rnumglVrzkj9632RgVYblbrTChz0hVe4ERzgX/XbJiE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4ACF958E.1010204@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20F ri,=2009=20Oct=202009=2020:57:02=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20090823)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Lars=20Eighner=20|CC: =20Warren=20Block=20,=20=0D=0A=20Oliver=20From me=20,=0D=0A=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.o rg|Subject:=20Re:=20for=20perl=20wizards.|References:=20<200910091 026.n99AQPUv014685@lurza.secnetix.de>=09=20<20091009134605.F95011@qroenaqrq.6qbyyne qvnyhc.pbz>|In-Reply-To:=20<20091009134605.F95011@qroenaqrq.6qbyyn eqvnyhc.pbz>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipar t/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"applicati on/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig5EA2BA77B 945FACB802A0F7E"; b=i+HHyxqFUacy0e1RpzAPlmqrg1SZn+k5MZEGy1Dqu0mOqwhWCT66XZzUlPMjETACJ bLdT7F2FIE0Z8X/tJgsxpUCasmo/GqkvwpSr+DmsbUvNPvmqorENz65o5wXLJa48Jw 6k0GXx66omMJvWymWbUTYnGQMOAZDgbKGI7VnijU= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4ACF958E.1010204@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:57:02 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090823) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eighner References: <200910091026.n99AQPUv014685@lurza.secnetix.de> <20091009134605.F95011@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> In-Reply-To: <20091009134605.F95011@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5EA2BA77B945FACB802A0F7E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Oliver Fromme , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: for perl wizards. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:57:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5EA2BA77B945FACB802A0F7E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lars Eighner wrote: > On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Warren Block wrote: >> That's twice now people have suggested sed instead of perl. Why? For= =20 >> many uses, perl is a better sed than sed. The regex engine is far=20 >> more powerful and escapes are much simpler. > Because sed is stable and perl is getting all OO and flaky. Sed will w= ork > like sed for so long as there are unix-like systems. It is not clear t= hat > perl is going to continue to work. What utter tosh. Perl's Object Oriented features have been in place for = years and, believe it or not, perl programs written for Perl 4 still continue t= o work with little or no modification under the very latest perl release, right = alongside the stuff written yesterday that uses all the very latest features. That= 's a damn sight better track record than almost any other actively developed langua= ge you=20 could mention. There's nothing that forces you to program Perl in an OO style -- procedu= ral style works just fine. You could probably make a fair stab at writing in= a purely functional style (like Ocaml) if you felt that way inclined. I get very irritated with the current vogue in certain quarters for doing= down Perl. So what if you personally don't like coding in Perl? No one is ho= lding a gun to your head and making you do it. Write in what ever language suits= you, but don't try and force me to conform to your prejudices. 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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1091451658-193770220-1255122097=:2004 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:28 -0000, dead_line@ wrote: > > Hello Gurus, > > > > Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm for many years. > > But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 > > This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql.. > > > > anything i should be aware of? > > Advices? > > > > Thank you. > > Marwan > If its of any relevance to you a major service provider "pairLite" is upgrading all of their servers to 7.2, See attached email for details. -- ;; dataix.net!jhell 2048R/89D8547E 2009-09-30 ;; BSD since FreeBSD 4.2 Linux since Slackware 2.1 ;; 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E --1091451658-193770220-1255122097=:2004 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=pairLite Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: attachment; 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Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:09:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ross Cameron Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:08:42 +0200 Message-ID: <35f70db10910091408x38271c39t80d669a5c61f6898@mail.gmail.com> To: Marwan Sultan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:09:03 -0000 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Marwan Sultan wrote: > > Hello Gurus, > > > > Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm > for many years. > > But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 > > This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql. > I would definitely go with a 7.2 install (until 8.0 is marked as production ready by the fBSD dev team). And if you're running on half reasonably modern hardware go with the AMD64 port. Uhm just one piece of advice though, 4.8R was released in 2003 and support for that release was ended YEARS ago. Security updates for fBSD 4.x were ended in November 2006 and you're machine has been vulnerable since. Frankly its a wonder that is hasn't been ripped to shreds and used for any number of malevolent tasks. Keeping fBSD up to date isn't a very difficult task and I would suggest that you invest the time in this task. -- "Opportunity is most often missed by people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Thomas Alva Edison Inventor of 1093 patents, including: The light bulb, phonogram and motion pictures. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 21:15:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12A71065676 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:15:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9548FC1A for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so1431900ewy.43 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:15:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lGYBNLRlyyVDPue4E5qtaQx+O+haAqnFxrlVuON+OjQ=; b=blCrHlyCZNj3NyDIuxHIJoyZTiJkFVROcI4X9Wr76NWXfjj9y0GOwJy8HZBcv3gzvR kuL9Zs/QTcMWUi2nOIoV8Z6rryH92Hk1dqHvZ9DZ1rzdQk21I+rkDzDHre9oJJEnQcUG CuE+DU4Dkp6dp/OijADA+aRvVL2yB5jUR54p8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Yy60RwZovr7OdHDCigaZ6v9zgXS9y2YWErmc/fVHE9ya1u9CYujeQbBk9BFgg9IFbS brzBNoEXqixgTn7582HrdGZ0rXWO93GsHIZH2wSXgLkF/UqPhNr4dL5bPgkRujnJH1fw kvk/2kEcfFi1qGtmeG0xjbj8wGZIbfheoMd4Y= Received: by 10.210.96.1 with SMTP id t1mr3809051ebb.17.1255122926373; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm1082875eyg.36.2009.10.09.14.15.24 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:15:22 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091009221522.2fbcd123@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <200910091528.n99FS90I025341@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200910091528.n99FS90I025341@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:15:28 -0000 On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:28:09 +0200 (CEST) Oliver Fromme wrote: > Randi Harper wrote: > > / = 1GB > > /var = 2GB > > /tmp = 2GB > > Depending on the size of installed RAM, /tmp could also > be a memory disk by default. I don't see why it should depend on the amount of RAM, since it would normally be swap-backed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 21:19:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E23106568B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2BA8FC15 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:19:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99LJLBI029642; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:19:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n99LJK62029639; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:19:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:19:20 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20091009214032.2cecf345.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <13EB5F63-E8D2-47EA-8E56-F052B697EBB8@olivent.com> <20091009214032.2cecf345.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:19:21 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Mikel King , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:19:25 -0000 On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:04:42 -0400, Mikel King wrote: >> Recommend sticking with 7.x branch until 8.0 has been through one or >> two solid releases. Then you should be able to perform a csup and >> rebuild the world to the current version of 8.x at the time. > > So you would not recommend 8 (as RC1 at the state of the moment) > for commercial use. Regarding your explaination, I do understand > this. It's often mentioned that x.0 releases aren't "that good". > > But allow me a follow-up question: Is 8.0-RC1 already recommendable > for a home desktop, or would 7.2 be the version of choice? I'm > asking this because of the many improvements especially the USB > subsystem has gotten in 8 which would be important for the "plug > and play experience" for USB devices... 8.0 also has the ability to run www/linux-f10-flashplugin10. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 21:25:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AB01065670 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58A28FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so6732599gxk.13 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:25:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IUiCGmXj3hWYMb1iGilrvGy2qYXAdetJVwbZLWe769s=; b=KSBhsopzObpPfz1cvnseaHMg9j/9PyG+NTNtt+YbWPjXWQSMP8S2uAEN8D0HMtTSKa izKMqP8xBPJ2vHLZKYC5aW9CN2Jt6N+wtPOiNg90qVqoG8qfxogVOM1qJPBb+E/w4dBN ACBSvYnOLJGznd3fUQ+MX/+TqAC3tnwMcZY5Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FCrGca2u3t4tY00sMKBep045yqZma5rsgHZOG52eFM2ao6AeA0pHTUpUinU4RiSUAa 6yUpAW1/SEcQ7X1c+bmkgaDBINSY3SC2z9fW3INeraAADt0DoGxyQWHWz2+WQ1YGM4Cq DJlm6KvavMZhM/BLPbin/b6UcDVySez6MCBUY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.22.6 with SMTP id z6mr1662809agi.65.1255123504998; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:25:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091009214032.2cecf345.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <13EB5F63-E8D2-47EA-8E56-F052B697EBB8@olivent.com> <20091009214032.2cecf345.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:25:04 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Marwan Sultan , Mikel King , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:25:06 -0000 2009/10/9 Polytropon : > On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:04:42 -0400, Mikel King wr= ote: >> Recommend sticking with 7.x branch until 8.0 has been through one or >> two solid releases. Then =A0you should be able to perform a csup and >> rebuild the world to the current version of 8.x at the time. > > So you would not recommend 8 (as RC1 at the state of the moment) > for commercial use. Regarding your explaination, I do understand > this. It's often mentioned that x.0 releases aren't "that good". > 8.0 seems to be "that good", but businesses who make their money from their computers should probably be conservative. Also, the upgrade path for 7.x to 8.x is amusingly painless, so being safe has a very low cost here. > But allow me a follow-up question: Is 8.0-RC1 already recommendable > for a home desktop, or would 7.2 be the version of choice? I'm > asking this because of the many improvements especially the USB > subsystem has gotten in 8 which would be important for the "plug > and play experience" for USB devices... > I have been using 8-CURRENT since February & updating from source once or twice a week. I am without trepidation in asserting that it is frankly the best release of FreeBSD I have used. Assuming that something horrible doesn't happen between RC1 & RELEASE (asteroid strike, second coming of John Holmes, land war in Asia) I wouldn't fear the *.0 syndrome. --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 21:45:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BB71065696 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:45:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AC248FC1B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:45:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11411 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Oct 2009 21:45:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255124751; bh=cnZz4Tj+UJzADmN/wBjZOnIaGrB2dPyz34wZLntS0xk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=iaPzrtUptwLq5uyVSevlYEBaklf3We6XpM2r9EtXss6FpIWofxjV5miDvZYMsBteKS1504KqxABppfCeXUo/ZrYgVuC6YeQK/wYQ0W+dcMV5y5yLadOuJzDi/yq/PLfsekEaG88KPgbLeXOIMu1Xy+pRt3m2jKmiI4b69ZvpQ/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vhXcLe2swMkd4C6eU2aADXpsHDUDcFG3c9F87u0eXMWwbLodhmwUypFhtbPUnwuxXdpJIuYBF+RdupxhxJblsWJ5Q2B+5PdjgRfM4jYd13Q276Vy8Bwn7Wl6/ugTRVrrqW7RvrBYi5J3dB3FGx9YU+hM36RsVRmNl9+tUY+FKMI=; Message-ID: <526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: o95p7fkVM1mz29K5VXSo2s9BjQgkUQfkygEF4lwp4TOPx1Dbje3jbgQYXnpRSN5Sh5dG15oG.EgD6_zpTCMxv0rCClnd0XaDh39_Lefqg_SW3zMjWEzIh1.Q3UbsNW62JJFqQY5zYXy3_gDE2GDBovBWY600ck6xftvLsrTJdT010xxJyqIPW3jZNPuG1CXweXXYBOvqfWB.FHZ1vwaqX4Ej0FO34D0OLhxHTAXYqyvf1vh50b2hOB8GUtMPpaaQARj8EP4Lj177AS6lMQKIsDxnmqB_lCaq11yEKfsnxSZEMiH0ZWXgDHnsqwDxvAaTVna.Nl5vTvLWilN40Q5lMvSg8Tpt11R866lJH98WTCQIIeo_udielbL3 Received: from [69.172.83.42] by web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:45:51 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/182.10 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:45:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Security blocking question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:45:52 -0000 Hi,=0AThe production server that has a public IP address has SSH enabled. T= his server is continuously under dictionary attack:=0AOct=A0 8 12:58:40 sev= en sshd[32248]: Invalid user europa from 83.65.199.91=0AOct=A0 8 12:58:40 s= even sshd[32250]: Invalid user hacked from 83.65.199.91=0AOct=A0 8 12:58:40= seven sshd[32251]: Invalid user cop\r from 83.65.199.91=0AOct=A0 8 12:58:4= 1 seven sshd[32254]: Invalid user gel from 83.65.199.91=0AOct=A0 8 12:58:41= seven sshd[32255]: Invalid user dork from 83.65.199.91=0AOct=A0 8 12:58:41= seven sshd[32258]: Invalid user eva from 83.65.199.91=0AOct=A0 8 12:58:41 = seven sshd[32260]: Invalid user hacker from 83.65.199.91=0AOct=A0 8 12:58:4= 1 seven sshd[32261]: Invalid user copila\r from 83.65.199.91=0AOct=A0 8 12:= 58:42 seven sshd[32265]: Invalid user dorna from 83.65.199.91=0AOct=A0 8 12= :58:42 seven sshd[32264]: Invalid user gelo from 83.65.199.91=0AOct=A0 8 12= :58:42 seven sshd[32268]: Invalid user evara from 83.65.199.91=0AOct=A0 8 1= 2:58:43 seven sshd[32270]: Invalid user hack from 83.65.199.91=0AOct=A0 8 1= 2:58:43 seven sshd[32271]: Invalid user copil\r from 83.65.199.91=0AOct=A0 = 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32274]: Invalid user Doubled from 83.65.199.91=0AOct= =A0 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32275]: Invalid user gelos from 83.65.199.91=0AOc= t=A0 8 12:58:44 seven sshd[32278]: Invalid user eve from 83.65.199.91=0A=0A= Is there a way that I could configure the server so that if there are for e= xample=A0X attempts from an IP address then for the next=A0Y hours all the = SSH requests would be ignored from that IP address? =0AThere are only a han= dful of people who have access to that server.=0A=0AThanks=0A=0A=0A=0A = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 21:48:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B8E106566B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC298FC0C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:48:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so20367820ywh.7 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:48:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=K++Sp63VFhRY24SJ11XQux6vPJFVtzMnfxM4+DLgaFg=; b=Ht33wlwziuI/wdP+pagjNfpv/bbNN4kxoXzDOO00enAx2lLHX+uci5JAE+Ckx28jhC Uy8dIUobb8zekkllOrFZsp2eZAaFI3XzJYe0XW7m6gqh54a00EyMjnEGc++x/vpEMlSV nB7qKj8GDQKaaYQpgQ3ikuxhNPwohFh+ylG3k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=hkl4K0ykRfAHljsbjkQOyGaiHI2uLiMgu+oqvmTk5RpVQQX2C/yp4wKgrvcpudWrcO z/oDkY9kadZxeCSJY0MkF3xfqwo7grC/FFoAlwsvpsx8fuUrlCBYlGJK5xKyx3yg0mjQ 5TAlWQQOrVpJl3h6er9hz2KEtkOgTV0Qmwxlw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.61.20 with SMTP id j20mr5662350yba.42.1255124894904; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:48:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:48:14 -0500 Message-ID: <6201873e0910091448h46c13ce4h2e9df8920a8fe27a@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Aflatoon Aflatooni Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security blocking question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:48:15 -0000 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Hi, > The production server that has a public IP address has SSH enabled. This > server is continuously under dictionary attack: > Oct 8 12:58:40 seven sshd[32248]: Invalid user europa from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:40 seven sshd[32250]: Invalid user hacked from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:40 seven sshd[32251]: Invalid user cop\r from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32254]: Invalid user gel from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32255]: Invalid user dork from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32258]: Invalid user eva from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32260]: Invalid user hacker from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32261]: Invalid user copila\r from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:42 seven sshd[32265]: Invalid user dorna from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:42 seven sshd[32264]: Invalid user gelo from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:42 seven sshd[32268]: Invalid user evara from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32270]: Invalid user hack from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32271]: Invalid user copil\r from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32274]: Invalid user Doubled from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32275]: Invalid user gelos from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:44 seven sshd[32278]: Invalid user eve from 83.65.199.91 > > Is there a way that I could configure the server so that if there are for > example X attempts from an IP address then for the next Y hours all the SSH > requests would be ignored from that IP address? > There are only a handful of people who have access to that server. > > Thanks > > /usr/ports/security/denyhosts -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 21:49:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D43106568D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0E88FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6D45428412; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:49:24 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:49:24 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Aflatoon Aflatooni Message-ID: <20091009214924.GB58052@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security blocking question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:49:25 -0000 On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 02:45:51PM -0700, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: [...] > Is there a way that I could configure the server so that if there are for example X attempts from an IP address then for the next Y hours all the SSH requests would be ignored from that IP address? > There are only a handful of people who have access to that server. If there are only a handful, then I'd suggest that you put a whitelist of IP addresses in your firewall config. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "A little learning is a dangerous thing but a lot of ignorance is just as bad." - Bob Edwards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 21:49:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2319E106568B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39E68FC17 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so933281bwz.43 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:49:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rVpxrxxHx+aKXenjWrBf6DJSNwtqo0ySfK6jdZJBZh0=; b=l5QMe0/bx0fGyP8WIdgxnmVNeRGYjLFK2SD5EZ5q7Rt4OwZeyEvYrfw3by+JiPqEb+ G9gQWLauNt0V8VogIcUMfhnaQk2gKxUd0mCMSKk2QrpqBEnEIwsQRxNV5KSKIegBFiVr U3/OuD/X3Wqz1ZZiPq0v4o5lEC3Uhxam9g6C4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=urGPx0X7c+tGWmzocKOPDGQ3gWwI5myFXh0OAgnFouxzP1jB1OMedNz4AucQth7X6N 5dloOeG1CXXQyjsLW6m/sBi+rKPdnwpK3P1hE8+KyoYwJRaFuKwISfkk83v/mYEMOirM Jbo3bazuCKKcegTKFdbJQelHXKB0HocBwHZtE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.25.66 with SMTP id y2mr2625605bkb.59.1255124990154; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:49:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> From: APseudoUtopia Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:49:30 -0400 Message-ID: <27ade5280910091449y1dbedfa9la72c615a4c7174ee@mail.gmail.com> To: Aflatoon Aflatooni Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security blocking question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:49:52 -0000 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni w= rote: > Hi, > The production server that has a public IP address has SSH enabled. This = server is continuously under dictionary attack: > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:40 seven sshd[32248]: Invalid user europa from 83.65.19= 9.91 > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:40 seven sshd[32250]: Invalid user hacked from 83.65.19= 9.91 > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:40 seven sshd[32251]: Invalid user cop\r from 83.65.199= .91 > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32254]: Invalid user gel from 83.65.199.9= 1 > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32255]: Invalid user dork from 83.65.199.= 91 > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32258]: Invalid user eva from 83.65.199.9= 1 > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32260]: Invalid user hacker from 83.65.19= 9.91 > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32261]: Invalid user copila\r from 83.65.= 199.91 > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:42 seven sshd[32265]: Invalid user dorna from 83.65.199= .91 > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:42 seven sshd[32264]: Invalid user gelo from 83.65.199.= 91 > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:42 seven sshd[32268]: Invalid user evara from 83.65.199= .91 > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32270]: Invalid user hack from 83.65.199.= 91 > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32271]: Invalid user copil\r from 83.65.1= 99.91 > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32274]: Invalid user Doubled from 83.65.1= 99.91 > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32275]: Invalid user gelos from 83.65.199= .91 > Oct=C2=A0 8 12:58:44 seven sshd[32278]: Invalid user eve from 83.65.199.9= 1 > > Is there a way that I could configure the server so that if there are for= example=C2=A0X attempts from an IP address then for the next=C2=A0Y hours = all the SSH requests would be ignored from that IP address? > There are only a handful of people who have access to that server. > > Thanks > I don't think OpenSSH has this feature. You would have to look to a firewall solution for this (I recommend PF). There is also software in the ports collection that I've heard of to help this problem. I've never used any of them, but fail2ban seems to be a popular one. I would also recommend using a non-standard SSH port if possible. It would cut down on the bot spam considerably. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 21:53:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFC8106568B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953678FC1D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n99LrVCb007484; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:53:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DF133C32D; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:53:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C123BCA6; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:53:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPEXV0.waddell.com ([192.168.204.25]) by wadpexf0.waddell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:53:31 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:53:10 -0500 Message-ID: <20742_1255125211_4ACFB0DB_20742_1553_2_70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCED3B@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0910091448h46c13ce4h2e9df8920a8fe27a@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Security blocking question Thread-Index: AcpJKj9RxjEiHyGZRYe25cyJXfAO6wAADFRA References: <526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <6201873e0910091448h46c13ce4h2e9df8920a8fe27a@mail.gmail.com> From: "Gary Gatten" To: "Adam Vande More" , "Aflatoon Aflatooni" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2009 21:53:31.0221 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0E0F850:01CA492A] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Security blocking question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:53:48 -0000 I might also add, if it's only a handful that have legitimate access requirements, maybe black hole all ip's from locations (countries, etc.) they'll never be in. We see a lot of bad traffic from well, certain countries and we simply null route them. Or if I feel like playing a bit I'll route them to a tar-pit and honey pot just to see what they do. Pretty entertaining sometimes! :) -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Adam Vande More Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 4:48 PM To: Aflatoon Aflatooni Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security blocking question On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Hi, > The production server that has a public IP address has SSH enabled. This > server is continuously under dictionary attack: > Oct 8 12:58:40 seven sshd[32248]: Invalid user europa from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:40 seven sshd[32250]: Invalid user hacked from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:40 seven sshd[32251]: Invalid user cop\r from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32254]: Invalid user gel from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32255]: Invalid user dork from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32258]: Invalid user eva from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32260]: Invalid user hacker from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32261]: Invalid user copila\r from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:42 seven sshd[32265]: Invalid user dorna from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:42 seven sshd[32264]: Invalid user gelo from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:42 seven sshd[32268]: Invalid user evara from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32270]: Invalid user hack from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32271]: Invalid user copil\r from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32274]: Invalid user Doubled from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32275]: Invalid user gelos from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:44 seven sshd[32278]: Invalid user eve from 83.65.199.91 > > Is there a way that I could configure the server so that if there are for > example X attempts from an IP address then for the next Y hours all the SSH > requests would be ignored from that IP address? > There are only a handful of people who have access to that server. > > Thanks > > /usr/ports/security/denyhosts --=20 Adam Vande More _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 21:56:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C7A106568D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3C18FC23 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n99LuI38010904; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:56:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n99LuI38010904 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1255125380; bh=XHjnjviQVwEzCORc539V/erHCjskZ1NipuoyrdXyWaE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4ACFB17A.1080400@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20F ri,=2009=20Oct=202009=2022:56:10=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20090823)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Aflatoon=20Aflatooni=20|CC: =20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Security=20block ing=20question|References:=20<526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.ya hoo.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.c om>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed= 3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-si gnature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig9C0AEC100DF7D6E170 A59B84"; b=f1tUHsYwxWCdYiSctpCZLQ+lgPSo+LQGCWb/4qdv7G/8DS4Q2zpCD15wjszedYakT HGitRThw87tLBFZrEaY8uPZK2U9gJdrVHZeNPxC2VmarHKFDOMiOGgdtgNzxDkXAgQ tYFQFUym/vMAROeC0psEt39d75i70+Ma/eB5QqIM= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4ACFB17A.1080400@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:56:10 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090823) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aflatoon Aflatooni References: <526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9C0AEC100DF7D6E170A59B84" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security blocking question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:56:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9C0AEC100DF7D6E170A59B84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > Hi, > The production server that has a public IP address has SSH enabled. Thi= s server is continuously under dictionary attack: > Oct 8 12:58:40 seven sshd[32248]: Invalid user europa from 83.65.199.9= 1 > Oct 8 12:58:40 seven sshd[32250]: Invalid user hacked from 83.65.199.9= 1 > Oct 8 12:58:40 seven sshd[32251]: Invalid user cop\r from 83.65.199.91= > Oct 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32254]: Invalid user gel from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32255]: Invalid user dork from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32258]: Invalid user eva from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32260]: Invalid user hacker from 83.65.199.9= 1 > Oct 8 12:58:41 seven sshd[32261]: Invalid user copila\r from 83.65.199= =2E91 > Oct 8 12:58:42 seven sshd[32265]: Invalid user dorna from 83.65.199.91= > Oct 8 12:58:42 seven sshd[32264]: Invalid user gelo from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:42 seven sshd[32268]: Invalid user evara from 83.65.199.91= > Oct 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32270]: Invalid user hack from 83.65.199.91 > Oct 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32271]: Invalid user copil\r from 83.65.199.= 91 > Oct 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32274]: Invalid user Doubled from 83.65.199.= 91 > Oct 8 12:58:43 seven sshd[32275]: Invalid user gelos from 83.65.199.91= > Oct 8 12:58:44 seven sshd[32278]: Invalid user eve from 83.65.199.91 >=20 > Is there a way that I could configure the server so that if there are f= or example X attempts from an IP address then for the next Y hours all th= e SSH requests would be ignored from that IP address?=20 > There are only a handful of people who have access to that server. Yes. In pf.conf: table persist [...] block drop in log quick on $ext_if from [...] pass in on $ext_if proto tcp \ from any to $ext_if port ssh \ flags S/SA keep state \ (max-src-conn-rate 3/30, overload flush global) plus you'll need to add a cron job to clear old entries out of the ssh-br= uteforce table after a suitable amount of time has passed. Use expiretable to do that. Note: in practice I've found that it's a *really good idea* to imp= lement a=20 SSH whitelist of addresses that will never be bruteforce blocked like thi= s -- it's=20 very easy to lock yourself out even if everything you're doing is entirel= y=20 legitimate. Coding that is left as an exercise for the reader. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig9C0AEC100DF7D6E170A59B84 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkrPsYIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwajwCfZZhDelEGssBatthjiqRP0RkU h4EAn1FTIKItJr+8oQn9YPzsBdI27hjP =tsUf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9C0AEC100DF7D6E170A59B84-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 22:10:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308F7106568B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from relay04.mail-hub.dodo.com.au (relay04.mail-hub.dodo.com.au [123.2.6.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58748FC16 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 122-148-122-57.static.dsl.dodo.com.au ([122.148.122.57] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by relay04.mail-hub.dodo.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1MwNfC-00010I-S4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:10:27 +1100 Message-ID: <4ACFB532.7080104@maydias.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:12:02 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090410) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Error Compiling qt4-dbus X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:10:29 -0000 Running AMD64 7.2-STABLE src & kernel upto date an trying to get ports updated when encountering the below issue which is now affecting a lot of programs.. -------------------------------- cd "/usr/ports/devel/dbus-qt4/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.2/./tools/qdbus/qdbus" make first c++ -c -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -O2 -Wall -W -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_XML_LIB -DQT_CORE_LIB -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/local/share/qt4/mkspecs/freebsd-g++ -I. -I../../../include/QtCore -I../../../include/QtXml -I../../../include -I../../../include/QtDBus -I.moc/release-shared -I/usr/local/include -o .obj/release-shared/qdbus.o qdbus.cpp g++ -Wl,-O1 -pthread -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib/qt4 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib/qt4 -o ../../../bin/qdbus .obj/release-shared/qdbus.o -L/usr/local/lib/qt4 -L/usr/ports/devel/dbus-qt4/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.2/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lQtDBus -L/usr/local/lib/qt4 -L/usr/local/lib -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -pthread -lQtXml -pthread -pthread -lQtCore -lz -lm -pthread -lgthread-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -liconv .obj/release-shared/qdbus.o(.text+0xdc): In function `printArg(QVariant const&)': : undefined reference to `QDBusUtil::argumentToString(QVariant const&)' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/dbus-qt4/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.2/tools/qdbus/qdbus. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/dbus-qt4/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.2/tools/qdbus/qdbus. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/dbus-qt4/work/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.5.2/tools/qdbus. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/dbus-qt4. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 22:38:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761FD1065672 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1548E8FC1D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15331 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Oct 2009 22:38:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255127916; bh=Mrthhl+28I8UHnlVAmHmj/HHx4UPxSCJS5vimaFBOFY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TKPfDuC2xxDvvSHVoAZAlhVlQGZAHyvlBQNdIVPFBRv5e1SdnIPa70e3qs7o6Fyy7gZ74rClCckklGHrmM0V/a8bFc0DwjulogWq0Hk+H7ObxFbTAY8jZ42qGDNoL9tPkO0y5gDDhR6edYIO3h6HSeQ863lGj+Ny4QNd+qDqi8c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NRoKZIOmUVfijsMPvCA0DPZJp9LLpDVkIUhakYyOjCD1jjYmzI3pdUDVAzDoJNgnp1OPDcjaJFiBQkKH7H2VvnfLUCVKHJV7xlM7OEkoXnH1b3mUOQxBk79MD/gXb4BDT/IRndgH+h7j8P7RNkxKdGfRhDSX/2/KLcJJOHuzClE=; Message-ID: <493986.15275.qm@web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BmBwL18VM1k0XTieTrgMIfCZcG5EqwjO6VjquEEcxNw3ClOx2Uc_VQlkdCGCfLRyYb_XwOSjgqgHzbm_XImsw.0pm72NsM8JqCEvVFjO6SSgjXGOFu5bZr4rFbm8p7ham53SXdyMnPQJ32tYjzB3G8lXY24.HVVgXlbUbcdhZ9SLGIqzLKf3qH.lIpqw.6UtkUh0Flc.sWDiZBfeIlgM76Yx33k7P3_pvFIsxE9tRvItvqW7eXQLXSbxYq4XBNb4f8kHxkbY3YmRgmTQ5fzp5dh_5ahRBsvDjd0FRXqjexiYNfsGg_g0peoYYwT0Cfp1bnPqI0wzi40Rs02scRVK.ldm3reZqj.qHH77wwOhPMJXgX8vTkSbP7lxNKuSjBcAbzE09iDD5Ci9plwigq8dRw9pV6g- Received: from [69.172.83.42] by web56204.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:38:36 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/182.10 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 References: <526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <6201873e0910091448h46c13ce4h2e9df8920a8fe27a@mail.gmail.com> <20742_1255125211_4ACFB0DB_20742_1553_2_70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCED3B@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:38:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20742_1255125211_4ACFB0DB_20742_1553_2_70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A08CCED3B@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Security blocking question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:38:37 -0000 =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0A> From: Gary Gatten =0A> To: Adam Vande More ; Aflatoon Aflatoon= i =0A> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Sent: Fr= i, October 9, 2009 5:53:10 PM=0A> Subject: RE: Security blocking question= =0A> =0A> I might also add, if it's only a handful that have legitimate acc= ess=0A> requirements, maybe black hole all ip's from locations (countries, = etc.)=0A> they'll never be in.=A0 We see a lot of bad traffic from well, ce= rtain=0A> countries and we simply null route them.=A0 Or if I feel like pla= ying a=0A> bit I'll route them to a tar-pit and honey pot just to see what = they do.=0A> Pretty entertaining sometimes! :)=0A> =0A> =0A=0AMy experience= has been that honeypot is good to catch internal hackers. =0AI have also n= oticed that we get dictionary attacks from zombies in North America. I have= managed to capture a Perl script that they use and it just retransmits the= command from the IP of the server that have the Perl script installed.=0A= =0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 22:39:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69AB1065670 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFEA8FC18 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio MailServer 6.7.2) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:39:55 -0400 References: <13EB5F63-E8D2-47EA-8E56-F052B697EBB8@olivent.com> <20091009214032.2cecf345.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-Id: <5C9B3A2F-5C9F-42BD-A97A-0D2DBA1278B9@olivent.com> From: Mikel King To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20091009214032.2cecf345.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:39:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Marwan Sultan Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:39:58 -0000 On Oct 9, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:04:42 -0400, Mikel King > wrote: >> Recommend sticking with 7.x branch until 8.0 has been through one or >> two solid releases. Then you should be able to perform a csup and >> rebuild the world to the current version of 8.x at the time. > > So you would not recommend 8 (as RC1 at the state of the moment) > for commercial use. Regarding your explaination, I do understand > this. It's often mentioned that x.0 releases aren't "that good". > > But allow me a follow-up question: Is 8.0-RC1 already recommendable > for a home desktop, or would 7.2 be the version of choice? I'm > asking this because of the many improvements especially the USB > subsystem has gotten in 8 which would be important for the "plug > and play experience" for USB devices... > > > Well the general rule of thumb has always been that unless you NEED a feature of the newest version it is best to continue running the existing stable release on your mission critical production boxes. Once the current release is passed the initial .0 stage most feel it is safe to adopt it in a production environment. Sometimes this may take a little longer than expected, but I would wait until 8.1 before I put it on my mission critical production boxes. Cheers, Mikel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 22:57:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11041065679 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:57:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B221D8FC13 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 22:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57FA3D049 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:57:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n99MvEQd002321 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:57:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:57:14 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20091010005714.cd7b118d.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Automated login, X and xdm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:57:18 -0000 Dear list, in order to do something that I haven't done for many years, I'd like to have some suggestions or pointers if I do it right. It's a strange, but still typical idea. :-) Here's the problem: A FreeBSD workstation should run X for a specified user after system startup. If the user logs out, he should not drop to CLI mode; instead, an xdm login should be shown to allow him (or someone else) to log in and use X. In the past, I created the auto-login as follows: First, I create an entry in /etc/gettytab, right after the "default:" entry; it contains the al= definition for auto-login as explained in "man 5 gettytab". The name of the user is USER in this example; in fact, is is a valid username on the system: autologin:\ :al=USER:tc=Pc: Then I change the getty argument from "Pc" to "autologin" in /etc/ttys: ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty autologin" cons25l1 on secure This automatically logs in the user USER specified as above. In order to start X when he logs in, I put the following lines in his ~/.login: #!/bin/sh mesg y [ ! -f /tmp/.X0-lock ] && startx The user's shell is the C-Shell, so it works. I see the upcoming problem: If a user already started X, then xdm cannot start (as usually done by setting "on" for xdm in /etc/ttys). My idea would be to do something like this into the user's ~/.login file: #!/bin/sh mesg y # very first start of X at (automatic) login # this line will fail if X is already running, but # start it if not [ ! -f /tmp/.X0-lock ] && startx # after leaving X, xdm should be started, but not if # it's already running [ ! -f /tmp/.X0-lock ] && sudo xdm # after xdm is started, dialog mode is back, so the # last entry quits any session after exiting from X logout Normally, there would be the following setting to only run xdm, without autologin, in /etc/ttys: ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure But this interferes with the autologin, right? What is the usual way to go? Is there something more elegant? How about "exec startx"? Thanks for your ideas and time! -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 23:04:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8A0106568B for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716618FC0C for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so2431741fgg.13 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:04:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=IT8DGtHk/JOy+xwqtLglgq+hDOZkA5TV/hii1fPLWME=; b=wklpNITEoAuJpSUM/axJuVxIZfWx6DYQCOFKOoHL29YIfGo6EImXV1gvJI/ApnESYL hDVz0m30h0IMYilc7SrCl4AWWH0zKDo1dYzpXDwG7cxIs4K7JQYqPnd8Nhe2fOYJPDHo GVHDAr4yks/wgsKmL3axBbTMyv2oT4ZzvS1tk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Wn9+Ba27/7sJP6vxyRIp/e/GRyTGX/VtY2Z54QN485TCznPOiBoTNvuVhqvbfE74q2 Si870Tmb/0mmoYKsQbpIgd5HeRx//WSNBVM1NXF8MLu64G6JKu7r0CdwhGlG1qEATTwk mVNp/to2wuIeWdot7JYmiQKwReEkVuEsRj/sM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.179.91 with SMTP id c27mr174602hbg.51.1255129454263; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:04:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5C9B3A2F-5C9F-42BD-A97A-0D2DBA1278B9@olivent.com> References: <13EB5F63-E8D2-47EA-8E56-F052B697EBB8@olivent.com> <20091009214032.2cecf345.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C9B3A2F-5C9F-42BD-A97A-0D2DBA1278B9@olivent.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:04:14 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Mikel King Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions , Marwan Sultan Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:04:16 -0000 2009/10/9 Mikel King > > On Oct 9, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:04:42 -0400, Mikel King >> wrote: >> >>> Recommend sticking with 7.x branch until 8.0 has been through one or >>> two solid releases. Then you should be able to perform a csup and >>> rebuild the world to the current version of 8.x at the time. >>> >> >> So you would not recommend 8 (as RC1 at the state of the moment) >> for commercial use. Regarding your explaination, I do understand >> this. It's often mentioned that x.0 releases aren't "that good". >> >> But allow me a follow-up question: Is 8.0-RC1 already recommendable >> for a home desktop, or would 7.2 be the version of choice? I'm >> asking this because of the many improvements especially the USB >> subsystem has gotten in 8 which would be important for the "plug >> and play experience" for USB devices... >> >> >> >> > Well the general rule of thumb has always been that unless you NEED a > feature of the newest version it is best to continue running the existing > stable release on your mission critical production boxes. Once the current > release is passed the initial .0 stage most feel it is safe to adopt it in a > production environment. Sometimes this may take a little longer than > expected, but I would wait until 8.1 before I put it on my mission critical > production boxes. > > Cheers, > Mikel > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > definitely stay away from the 6.x branch now that 7.x is very stable. Apart from it been out of date I found 6 had quite a few serious performance issues on SMP systems for quite a few applications. 7 generally rocks, and 8 looks even better, however isn't quite there yet. I have seen a few issues on the usb stack. I'm sure these will get fixed shorty however I wouldnt want to use it in production quite yet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 23:08:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328771065679 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C581E8FC13 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10436 invoked by uid 89); 9 Oct 2009 23:08:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 9 Oct 2009 23:08:40 -0000 Message-ID: <4ACFC288.6050104@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:08:56 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eighner References: <200910091026.n99AQPUv014685@lurza.secnetix.de> <20091009134605.F95011@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> In-Reply-To: <20091009134605.F95011@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Oliver Fromme , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: for perl wizards. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:08:48 -0000 Lars Eighner wrote: > On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Warren Block wrote: > >> On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Oliver Fromme wrote: >> >>> Gary Kline wrote: >>> > >>> > Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a >>> > text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char >>> to be >>> > used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate >>> > hex back into ', ", -- [that's a dash), and so forth. Why >>> does >>> > this fail to trans the hex code to an apostrophe? >>> > >>> > perl -pi.bak -e 's/\xe2\x80\x99/'/g' >>> >>> You need to escape the inner quote character, of course. >>> I think sed is better suited for this task than perl. >> >> That's twice now people have suggested sed instead of perl. Why? For >> many uses, perl is a better sed than sed. The regex engine is far >> more powerful and escapes are much simpler. > > Because sed is stable and perl is getting all OO and flaky. Sed will work > like sed for so long as there are unix-like systems. It is not clear that > perl is going to continue to work. Given that it seems as though you do know what you are doing (which makes me believe that you actually have the ability to provide valuable input), why would you be so negative? You have the answers. Why not use your energy in sharing it with a positive spin? Steve ps. 'twas tough resisting feeding the troll regarding the Perl comments. However, those who use it know the truth, and those who haven't will eventually learn the truth. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 23:19:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23739106568D for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:19:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC978FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:19:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2009D1F098 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:19:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-76-26-200-187.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [76.26.200.187]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8F4308A6 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1MwOkc-00071w-00 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:19:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:19:54 -0400 From: stan To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20091009231954.GA26918@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Free BSD Questions list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 19:14:28 up 10 days, 1:26, 1 user, load average: 0.22, 0.15, 0.04 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: text2html ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:19:56 -0000 I had a contractor uppgrade a freebsd machine a while back. Now I am finding things that did not get done corectly. The latest is that I have some other machines that create text files copy them over to this machine, and put them iin the webservers space. Looks like in the past, these files were procesed by /usr/local/bin/text2html, which O would almost certainly have installed from a port. But, I cannot seem to find this port. Can anyone sugest either where I can find this utlity, or what I might use as an alternative? The text files to process are very simple reports of system statistics. Thanks for any ideas. -- One of the main causes of the fall of the roman empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 23:34:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4A71065672 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCA68FC19 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89633CF6A; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:34:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n99NYDJi003660; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:34:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:34:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: stan Message-Id: <20091010013413.6363c38c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091009231954.GA26918@teddy.fas.com> References: <20091009231954.GA26918@teddy.fas.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: text2html ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:34:15 -0000 On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:19:54 -0400, stan wrote: > Can anyone sugest either where I can find this utlity, or what I might use > as an alternative? The text files to process are very simple reports of > system statistics. Maybe this is usable for you: Port: txt2html-2.45 Path: /usr/ports/textproc/txt2html Info: Convert raw text to something with a little HTML formatting Port: html-pretty-1.01 Path: /usr/ports/textproc/html-pretty Info: HTML and SGML prettyprinter and text-to-HTML/SGML converter Port: htmlise-0.2 Path: /usr/ports/textproc/htmlise Info: Formats plain text as HTML Result of % cd /usr/ports % make search name=html | less then "/text" and some "/". :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 9 23:40:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33881065672 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sjk@ankeborg.nu) Received: from mail.three-dimensional.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:16d8:ffac:2::9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546B28FC08 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.three-dimensional.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1831CFB16C for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:40:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at three-dimensional.net Received: from mail.three-dimensional.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.three-dimensional.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id n+-5Oa3-xLD9 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:40:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.20.3] (host-90-232-94-234.mobileonline.telia.com [90.232.94.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: sjk@ankeborg.nu) by mail.three-dimensional.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B752FB16B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:40:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: From: Svante Kvarnstrom To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4ACFB17A.1080400@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1--200995796" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:39:54 +0200 References: <526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4ACFB17A.1080400@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.2.0 (v56) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: Security blocking question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:40:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-1--200995796 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Oct 9, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > plus you'll need to add a cron job to clear old entries out of the =20 > ssh-bruteforce > table after a suitable amount of time has passed. Use expiretable =20 > to do > that. I believe that security/expiretable is superfluous nowadays since =20 pfctl supports the -T expire directive. 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X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20091010002140.16914BE61@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:21:39 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:24:03 -0000 >> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:39:58 -0700, >> Randi Harper said: R> I was thinking that a more acceptable default layout (leaving swap at R> it's current default size) would be: R> / = 1GB R> /var = 2GB R> /tmp = 2GB I usually create something like this: / = 200M /usr = 8G /var = 2G /stage = 8G /home = everything else * Root stays small, so I can have backup root partitions all over without feeling guilty about wasting space. * /tmp is a limited-size memory disk. * /usr and /var are on separate partitions, preferably on different drives so I'm not seeking all over creation if /, /usr, and /var are busy. Also, filling up /usr/tmp or /var/log will be annoying but not critical. * /stage is a staging area, usually for backups to another host. I put it on a different drive than /home, so I don't compete too much with my users when, say, doing hourly backups: # cd /home # find . -newer /last/bkup -depth -print | pax -x cpio -wd | bzip2 -c > /stage/bkup.bz2 # touch /last/bkup # su bkup -c 'scp -c arcfour /stage/bkup.bz2 remote:/some/place' Could we also have some nicer defaults for /etc/fstab? # Device Mount FStype Options Dump Pass # ----------------------------------------------------------------- /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 devfs /dev devfs rw 0 0 fdescfs /dev/fd fdescfs rw 0 0 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 md /tmp mfs rw,-s512m 2 0 /dev/ad0s1b none swap sw 0 0 # /dev/ad0s1d /usr ufs rw,noatime,snapshot 2 2 /dev/ad0s1e /var ufs rw,noatime,snapshot 2 2 /dev/ad0s1f /home ufs rw,noatime,nosuid,snapshot 2 2 # # CD/DVD: #/dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 # # CD/DVD/RW: #/dev/cd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 # ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company A society that champions freedom of religion but at the same time countenances state regulation of education has a great deal of explaining to do. --James R. Otteson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 01:03:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62691106568B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f6:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEBF8FC14 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:03:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (localhost.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:::1]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88D557375; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:03:25 +0900 (KST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=izb.knu.ac.kr; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=soyeomul; i=bh@izb.knu.ac.kr; bh=IAzsD6Wj+To5m+qSOkIoVgNrO+tuf9Lcef6UnuDr oy4=; b=jB9EK2YjZrI7zjoz6IV58yZMv973zqsriS/vQ3DUplwzN5N4IU6V8nte 7viJOprbSqumwuekelRclT7M21vvIe2zdFyfWNEA6JF8rDdjGqXo65dB/bvnvVtn Y7umwRW89mQD74CActVr8Orxm4XsXUWTaGVD0UzULuMi8MSpzME= Received: from rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr (rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f8:3::2]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6D15736D; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:03:25 +0900 (KST) Received: from betla.izb.knu.ac.kr (betla.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f6:3::b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) by rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923861CD6F; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:03:22 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <4ACFDD57.6000401@izb.knu.ac.kr> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:03:19 +0900 From: =?UTF-8?B?54mb57Kl?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090423) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marwan Sultan References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:03:27 -0000 Marwan Sultan wrote: >=20 > Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a c= harm for many years. > But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 > This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql= .. IMHO, i think that you should wait until 8.0-R out. Sincerely, --=20 Byung-Hee HWANG =E2=88=91 WWW: http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 01:49:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23C91065670 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahlerrd@yahoo.com) Received: from web51012.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51012.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.39.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88C948FC17 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 76484 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Oct 2009 01:49:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255139364; bh=EuoIwhVtqkZbc19wjmXDFkxrwB3aFKUkwdzvOi3zeUM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=o/Nr4enhp8rE4DDYd02XDq7ROohKhTP+DK0qlBEdSWMqAD3dRT7wobilIXjjBUg7WhBeLV5wqWTvP02m77r1OAy7IPTEt8FrQ11F6XBJd+i8ca/a/ibntzDdJK/d7Hc583ySLqPksvRe0MIdI0LcGDgSzmUhSVmtqTj66O0luEE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Xss5huSxvULA/+UWXbQmJGjUYgThutYY5zSlfRgqw8nhE/DC/Q0R8kmlT3ZTRbaXuqwI9K9Z7AxP44Yp4vB3uuLbRGsUeHAgvC52kh8QJnQ41Vv7bhHzIVjHq85LQDZuTUP+fc2GkcXsjytpJZsRJ17Ewu/Kjb6fioLm9qbQhbY=; Message-ID: <729381.76401.qm@web51012.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: TN1kJXgVM1kEOFaH07gxKqQGPpRYA783CywFNjuQGx1FCANVNQHJLqiHGyp3g_BW2nFReAw6WA_n4k_l.epVRa4cZCCiWmKs_KlnONbQArV4wRYn8Ma_mculS.6ZgEzBlYFmfo3ZQZ_YwZjka1d2vjDnsojOn2MeqOv4VKEXhLcjb5XABnroZbp5kNFRTA3287WNGrz0bOFZZ53xF6UJsjDzc_QPIvhkrK1du052GrhJNz5niP19NxEYmD8yj8TgtHstMXa16fw4BeSFDnL7y6OxJOjfhBGmEXUCbuPywIEfZ7C3fG9oJGvWdgo7VU56wERBcm.d0ywVX6ZNfN.OWCPUXjuyGlX0Pu4VzhGidrUWebvlNpxMAbih0mjkNHlEQuJklJGqZLWUgn.vHxnWptc9mPe7wpGYI3C0sUY- Received: from [71.117.53.27] by web51012.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:49:24 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:49:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Mahlerwein To: FreeBSD-Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Victor Subervi Subject: Re: Automatic chmod X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:49:26 -0000 >From: Victor Subervi >Subject: Re: Automatic chmod >To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 11:20 AM > >User? I only have one user on this shared server. Here's the code: > >#!/usr/local/bin/python >import cgitb; cgitb.enable() >import MySQLdb >import cgi >import sys,os >sys.path.append(os.getcwd()) >from login import login >user, passwd, db, host =3D login() >form =3D cgi.FieldStorage() >picid =3D int(form['id'].value) >x =3D int(form['x'].value) >pics =3D {1:'pic1',2:'pic2',3:'pic3',4:'pic4',5:'pic5',6:'pic6'} >pic =3D pics[x] >db =3D MySQLdb.connect(host=3Dhost, user=3Duser, passwd=3Dpasswd, db=3Ddb) >cursor=3D db.cursor() >sql =3D "select " + pic + " from productsX where id=3D'" + str(picid) + "'= ;" >cursor.execute(sql) >content =3D cursor.fetchall()[0][0].tostring() >cursor.close() >print '''Content-Type: text/plain >Content-Encoding: base64 >''' >print >print content.encode('base64') I finally got to where I could test this.=A0 I'm no Python expert (in fact,= this was the first time I've touched it), but your code, with heavy modifi= cations to slim it to something that can run on my system, seems to be most= ly OK.=A0 Here's the code I ended up with: ********** #!/usr/local/bin/python import cgitb; cgitb.enable() import MySQLdb import cgi import sys,os sys.path.append(os.getcwd()) user=3D"root" passwd=3D"" db=3D"mysql" host=3D"localhost" form =3D cgi.FieldStorage() db =3D MySQLdb.connect(host=3Dhost, user=3Duser, passwd=3Dpasswd, db=3Ddb) cursor=3D db.cursor() sql =3D "select User from user;" cursor.execute(sql) content =3D cursor.fetchall() cursor.close() print '''Content-Type: text/plain Content-Encoding: base64 ''' print print content ********** That all seems to work as I would expect and gives not unreasonable output.= =A0 Not that I know it's correct or what's needed, but it seems to print wh= at you'd think it would. Can you try running a test script that does, Oh, say, something like the be= low to see if it works?=A0 (AGAIN, I don't know python AND I'm not testing = this, just hand-writing it so excuse my code!) #!/usr/local/bin/python print '''Content-Type: text/plain ''' print "Hopefully this works" At this point, I really haven't much more to go on.=A0 The above may pinpoi= nt what sort of permissions issue it is.=A0 Besides, if it works, you could= slowly add in lines from your previous example until you find the offendin= g line...=20 Also, If you haven't already done so, you may want to try posting in some p= ython help forums or something.=A0 This doesn't have the feel of a FreeBSD = specific problem, so there's bound to be other Python folks who've hit this= and solved it before. =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 01:49:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9B01065672 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86ECE8FC1D for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from irsec67702 ([129.110.241.3]) by cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091010014943766.JUOD4754@cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com>; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:49:43 +0000 From: "Paul Schmehl" To: "'stan'" , "'Free BSD Questions list'" References: <20091009231954.GA26918@teddy.fas.com> In-Reply-To: <20091009231954.GA26918@teddy.fas.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:50:22 -0500 Message-ID: <031c01ca494c$081b7600$18526200$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcpJN0TQce5Fj8fdQwuuzaT2tPYOqQAFIuew Content-Language: en-us Cc: Subject: RE: text2html ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:49:44 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of stan Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:20 PM To: Free BSD Questions list Subject: text2html ? I had a contractor uppgrade a freebsd machine a while back. Now I am finding things that did not get done corectly. The latest is that I have some other machines that create text files copy them over to this machine, and put them iin the webservers space. Looks like in the past, these files were procesed by /usr/local/bin/text2html, which O would almost certainly have installed from a port. But, I cannot seem to find this port. Can anyone sugest either where I can find this utlity, or what I might use as an alternative? The text files to process are very simple reports of system statistics. Thanks for any ideas. pauls@utd65257# cd /usr/ports/ pauls@utd65257# make search name=text2html pauls@utd65257# make search name=txt2html Port: txt2html-2.51 Path: /usr/ports/textproc/txt2html Info: Convert raw text to something with a little HTML formatting Maint: jadawin@FreeBSD.org B-deps: p5-ExtUtils-CBuilder-0.24 p5-ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.19 p5-Getopt-ArgvFile-1.11 p5-Module-Build-0.30 p5-YAML-0.68 p5-YAML-Syck-1.05 perl-5.8.9 R-deps: p5-ExtUtils-CBuilder-0.24 p5-ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.19 p5-Getopt-ArgvFile-1.11 p5-Module-Build-0.30 p5-YAML-0.68 p5-YAML-Syck-1.05 perl-5.8.9 WWW: http://txt2html.sourceforge.net/ Paul Schmehl (pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) In case it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 02:44:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4166810656AA for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC648FC0A for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so45518qwd.7 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:44:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=O3uGl+KEiOwFjFA7+0e2s1PleOLfTvsfyykso6iP6cA=; b=TlcpNEkoayzuS2364zdiNv4QxJVhlIHmrKrwkNjM9PjyiTUI4MJSqPuPYjv7pUtpfh cjfRjHKKLvy2TkYAnf9xJV91Qid7sQ4bKrt8QXvvGK2mr/ArCdkWs6P/d/I57kKmDShV YFOiuEvI801vJ2B6KHZtab6TU7qQELAo0Bka8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=RaGUArLgO3DuCKzXGiejGrdd02in3bPOHyQuP4yvGJCqp5g9ZT0L2C2JIJ75ZSjDef CmH0Az44GPbeTrWjZBFbAudXeXpTARCmHFd1mOycq2OWZLR2J0z4cE5RrpEME/VlZzp2 nHThPM8iIBzlEdlBTpHgNXbuA6/7ZUov68II4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.93.4 with SMTP id t4mr1896203qcm.93.1255142644194; Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:44:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACFDD57.6000401@izb.knu.ac.kr> References: <4ACFDD57.6000401@izb.knu.ac.kr> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:44:04 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640910091944k66f8c595rcbdb296e0dbfc078@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: =?UTF-8?B?54mb57Kl?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Marwan Sultan Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:44:05 -0000 My 2 cents, as far as I know 7.1 will be maintained longer than 7.2 according to the freebsd.org website. That is, security fixes will be rolled out for 7.1 a while after 7.2 reaches End Of Life. That made me decide to go with 7.1 when I had to make the switch from 7.0 a few months ago. 8.0 was not out at that time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 07:12:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27B9106568B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:12:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BB58FC23 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:12:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9A7Cm6K064528; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:12:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n9A7Cm6K064528 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1255158769; bh=JZ/G/fOlhmVc8WKnjB6U8P8ZX2S1fQVNHW+iO8a8IcY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4AD033E6.9090600@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S at,=2010=20Oct=202009=2008:12:38=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20090823)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Svante=20Kvarnstrom=20|CC:=20fre ebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Security=20blocking=20 question|References:=20<526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.co m>=09<4ACFB17A.1080400@infracaninophile.co.uk>=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Con tent-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20 protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"---- --------enig7A3D24CF0456EA442CB4BA29"; b=wMJq4pF9k4RjrsXHl7zp9BzULckGidRqhlQFKg213jkmywKEFYKUchdg5Rc8w2+oW 3K1TzkUfOOsmHSUe3twHP/sxW0zd++8YTqLfAOOa9RW887dMtVt+7Isam8YBTlyl4z uUDiCg3p+pcVWURXr06WA1Pwk0nGD51g9fskZtRg= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4AD033E6.9090600@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:12:38 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090823) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Svante Kvarnstrom References: <526808.11391.qm@web56207.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4ACFB17A.1080400@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7A3D24CF0456EA442CB4BA29" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security blocking question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:12:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7A3D24CF0456EA442CB4BA29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Svante Kvarnstrom wrote: >=20 > On Oct 9, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 >> plus you'll need to add a cron job to clear old entries out of the=20 >> ssh-bruteforce >> table after a suitable amount of time has passed. Use expiretable to = do >> that. > I believe that security/expiretable is superfluous nowadays since pfctl= =20 > supports the -T expire directive. Yes -- that is true. Seems '-T expire' works in 7-STABLE and 7.1-RELEASE= , 7.2-RELEASE -- not sure about older versions though. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig7A3D24CF0456EA442CB4BA29 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkrQM/AACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyuZgCbB39JHuASNLxRSzltzu4jSUJl N04AnjkiCILvN1XN1Gy/pDfXdo4PwFfc =BCdo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7A3D24CF0456EA442CB4BA29-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 08:46:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898DC106566B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192938FC0A for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so526999fga.13 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:46:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=RFlD9Z9ZeBFB3oJtAIT4+CCiZmXoP7G3lixntp4lAOw=; b=SKhz2KbPmYnnW88KC/2koX8B5JTDPwAS1hLfTzZshjx69r4QKDPRjmDeD3ai/BBH3O xVpYBwnAqGOl5WWWJH8FovbkRQ/UUo0AZm4CCV6L1ggG2t5AiJjrQKgdM+H30qLWSLul pND5D3ygkRKr9HhSQRPM7gJXN4rTUuB+WkL+4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=vXgFQ86ZHc8j8yZTRvkvmQK/C/NDIDAF9A1zIAxEp4Mm+OBA1czQ4YeLN1jyPimQGe cGfFGLZikOgMVMPyyfLxe1FdsTxXok9wzuZQZbD0EZ2fipGYvvCl8vytqYn4qw8nJLf6 hC4FNSJ8xHc0hgNLeGCFdgNRCMOwypdaxV/jM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.179.91 with SMTP id c27mr204292hbg.51.1255164370865; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:46:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4ACFDD57.6000401@izb.knu.ac.kr> References: <4ACFDD57.6000401@izb.knu.ac.kr> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:46:10 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: =?UTF-8?B?54mb57Kl?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Marwan Sultan Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:46:13 -0000 2009/10/10 =E7=89=9B=E7=B2=A5 > Marwan Sultan wrote: > >> >> Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a cha= rm >> for many years. >> But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 >> This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql.. >> > > IMHO, i think that you should wait until 8.0-R out. > > Sincerely, > > -- > Byung-Hee HWANG > =E2=88=91 WWW: http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Never ideal to play the waiting game, as there is always something bigger and better round the corner. Best to go with something tried and tested. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 09:01:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2D91065670 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B728FC08 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:01:32 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KRA00AZ9JQJCI60@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4AD04D6E.5000309@videotron.ca> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:01:34 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: conky calendar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:01:32 -0000 I'm having a bit of a time with the calendar.sh script I found on the Net; it doesn't display quite correctly. It should have brackets around the current date, but I can't figure out what is not functioning correctly: #!/bin/sh cal | awk 'NR>2' | sed -e 's/ / /g' -e 's/[^ ] /& /g' -e 's/..*/ & /' -e 's/ \('`date | awk '{print $2}'`'\) /\['`date | awk '{print $2}'`'\]/' Change the NR>2 to NR1 and the printout includes the days of the week: Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 Since today is the 10th, we should be seeing [10] - but we are not. Also, there is the problem of the 1,2,3 not showing in the right days - in conky this can be fixed by not using xft... but then I'm not sure of how to change the font size... perhaps the xorg screen size is the default ??? I'm not very good at programming, but I did look up the man pages for cal, sed and awk but it is a little complicated for my little brain. Can anyone help, please? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 10:06:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2161065672 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:06:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f197.google.com (mail-yw0-f197.google.com [209.85.211.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C97B8FC2D for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh35 with SMTP id 35so22066205ywh.7 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 03:06:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; bh=tTHe/WfrJTpf5IhAKa7kiY9TfBJrhcyYnJd2oQU3bP0=; b=Gw7qEDkz9XAS056BWRjwignLz+RcxRKYjzdWzDfyhhfF/RJ03p7r1g69c6b5JNuWG/ hObnxgkLBvag3lW82bPLqr/4G6rS330z7jttn9ASSVzuJUzKJ3KJtZhfdy+3I/ON/kQB KLAqCekWYaLmhRKMrv8gHvQsyjQvqTm7UhSHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; b=DuxoJeGr2wjvWIZps86sL7xR+x16k8ivMIJoq+9PrWEtG6EMq8y8LdkiHzfzA3VPzH b3gM2X28JFd1/pORmhoMNpdlYibyUqc7NG7wFvNYZYRCTMAYkXDmYq8Kix3j0tUZPxO4 ZTHYqsgJnP6+Q226Gl0Iv+tTh6KEC3pT9MmPk= Received: by 10.150.1.10 with SMTP id 10mr6376771yba.284.1255169206465; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 03:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dimension.5p.local (adsl-99-19-46-114.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.19.46.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15sm1054260gxk.12.2009.10.10.03.06.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 03:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:06:39 -0400 From: jhell To: krad In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4ACFDD57.6000401@izb.knu.ac.kr> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x89D8547E X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: =?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B5m4!=1B=28J?= , FreeBSD Questions , Marwan Sultan Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:06:47 -0000 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:46, kraduk@ wrote: > 2009/10/10 ?? > >> Marwan Sultan wrote: >> >>> >>> Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a charm >>> for many years. >>> But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 >>> This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql.. >>> >> >> IMHO, i think that you should wait until 8.0-R out. >> >> Sincerely, >> > > Never ideal to play the waiting game, as there is always something bigger > and better round the corner. Best to go with something tried and tested. > I will agree with that. And raise that its not a good idea to be part of the early adopter club for commercial use. -- ;; dataix.net!jhell 2048R/89D8547E 2009-09-30 ;; BSD since FreeBSD 4.2 Linux since Slackware 2.1 ;; 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 10:11:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE57C1065672 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02638FC0A for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so7057709gxk.13 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 03:11:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; bh=lX0+VhU12WlmE7jlviMMFpCGndoDL2dMXcbY4flHoaM=; b=mF/zoWccegldC44CBAq3n5NOZCY02wtDrh+FXL6qSwWX5PPPwkp0LUEq+O8rRPBPKG 0MxztZffNnQ9fjelzaJzImVmtngKJ2HPjZFpihkgrOpNyl1ja9k2nBltpdPFhEwDCJbS hRPyJjDjVp8DXUpz1kGIJwnJTP140nb6vioBE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; b=QYlWpkMm/MHkr3MYxqJ3YJ/dUiXB3BAxQtiPYfxltK6wXkhEeIqB3KbgsxtGC5tI2q mzkUwfGUD1xf+K3bgexekVhVSxdg+hjzYpkV5+7eJ5OFIyWaAZk64UJhvIfRhdZ6+V+0 QVsqvAsd2elf6IC96Ay8i85lcLonuftq9+69s= Received: by 10.150.44.27 with SMTP id r27mr6425180ybr.263.1255169515848; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 03:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dimension.5p.local (adsl-99-19-46-114.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.19.46.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14sm1054831gxk.14.2009.10.10.03.11.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 03:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:11:52 -0400 From: jhell To: PJ In-Reply-To: <4AD04D6E.5000309@videotron.ca> Message-ID: References: <4AD04D6E.5000309@videotron.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x89D8547E X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: conky calendar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:11:57 -0000 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:01, af.gourmet@ wrote: > I'm having a bit of a time with the calendar.sh script I found on the > Net; it doesn't display quite correctly. > It should have brackets around the current date, but I can't figure out > what is not functioning correctly: > > #!/bin/sh > cal | awk 'NR>2' | sed -e 's/ / /g' -e 's/[^ ] /& /g' -e 's/..*/ & > /' -e 's/ \('`date | awk '{print $2}'`'\) /\['`date | awk '{print $2}'`'\]/' > > Change the NR>2 to NR1 and the printout includes the days of the week: > Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa > 1 2 3 > 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 > 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 > 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 > 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 > > Since today is the 10th, we should be seeing [10] - but we are not. > Also, there is the problem of the 1,2,3 not showing in the right days - > in conky this can be fixed by not using xft... but then I'm not sure of > how to change the font size... perhaps the xorg screen size is the > default ??? > > I'm not very good at programming, but I did look up the man pages for > cal, sed and awk but it is a little complicated for my little brain. > Can anyone help, please? > Where did you Saturday go to ? I would love for some of my Thursdays and sometimes Fridays to just disappear like this but Saturday ? come on now what is the world coming to ? ;) -- ;; dataix.net!jhell 2048R/89D8547E 2009-09-30 ;; BSD since FreeBSD 4.2 Linux since Slackware 2.1 ;; 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 10:38:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5586106568F for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64B278FC1E for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 83787 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2009 10:38:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CV2prJAkaS4jiSBaBfheX/OPRyIzfu0GHWSVtoaDeUYLEvKmIOQYT/XjqRkn7SnI2RK1ms5Xt/mGomoEMFK1X2UCZbGQlxnkyVMpD7eVnzOokHBAN08/1FP99Sak8oTIZ0qUIOpDS9ib5aHOGRE0aZcBw9X5LjVnmZOcUNaVzH4= ; Received: from c-67-189-183-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.183.172 with login) by smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 03:38:21 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: hw0I_nkVM1m9isk8B9ceRA.C23uzn.WsmkjX7dha7_sX9JpjuFXNgBqmUDFCJ6a0ZUJOfapckTOu2J5n2F._FGwf1ojn7PiBEtzaatq4oUiG5ea6NHRLlx3n2zDmfB2fjekxUzOZiOKhzQVNpTHWtPeMPyaFEDfomXS8SZ.rYW.rOHEaF.4TEHebIA4jWItCuuRQ_DIuQCUiOPRoQ7PTwSP30bnO1nw08KyvBZz5QrDEPRLhiWq8SaboQlIFQV_Sg5ayUEArlHiq_PFgBAmnpAtJZs8mnitb75dRks9ZvyoyGlw8OrDB06plXwSuHzqv4DJXL.ucddqhJfE9QSCsC9ohcEYgu.JGlSGJFsXwzLkWQ0wiQuYRIbA3Vb.boSdQyNoUu2ul63zB4BvS8zZS5Ns- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0574F22828 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:38:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:38:20 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091010063820.2e3a69b6@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4ACFDD57.6000401@izb.knu.ac.kr> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:38:22 -0000 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:06:39 -0400 jhell wrote: [snip] > I will agree with that. And raise that its not a good idea to be part > of the early adopter club for commercial use. Somebody has got to go first. As so aptly stated by Robert Crandell, chairman of American Airlines in the late 1990's, "If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes." -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these. Ovid (43 B.C. - A.D. 18) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 13:27:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6D8106568B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:27:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DABDA8FC1A for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n9ADRGHX041085; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:27:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1CF52BAAD; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:27:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:27:16 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: PJ Message-ID: <20091010132716.GA33706@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4AD04D6E.5000309@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AD04D6E.5000309@videotron.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: conky calendar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:27:18 -0000 --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 05:01:34AM -0400, PJ wrote: > I'm having a bit of a time with the calendar.sh script I found on the > Net; it doesn't display quite correctly. > It should have brackets around the current date, but I can't figure out > what is not functioning correctly: >=20 > #!/bin/sh > cal | awk 'NR>2' | sed -e 's/ / /g' -e 's/[^ ] /& /g' -e 's/..*/ & > /' -e 's/ \('`date | awk '{print $2}'`'\) /\['`date | awk '{print $2}'`'\= ]/' Look at the output of the date command: Sat Oct 10 15:12:39 CEST 2009 Change 'print $2' to 'print $3' to get the numercal date. Or even simpler: use "date +%d" instead of "date | awk '{print $3}'". Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrQi7MACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVlLgCgn5V4nfFcWZH3kLOe2CtD09uB Gt8AoIC5wQw+sQ721feJ9K8cAIRQmqi+ =w7I/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 13:45:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872C0106566B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a_best01@uni-muenster.de) Received: from zivm-exrelay1.uni-muenster.de (ZIVM-EXRELAY1.UNI-MUENSTER.DE [128.176.192.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7588FC14 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:45:41 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,537,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="285158132" Received: from zivmaildisp1.uni-muenster.de (HELO ZIVMAILUSER03.UNI-MUENSTER.DE) ([128.176.188.85]) by zivm-relay1.uni-muenster.de with ESMTP; 10 Oct 2009 15:45:40 +0200 Received: by ZIVMAILUSER03.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (Postfix, from userid 149459) id 67E321B0750; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:45:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:45:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Best Sender: Organization: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet Muenster To: Alex R Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: binutils X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:45:42 -0000 there's a project called binutils in p4 but i don't know anything about it (version, status, etc.). the problem with binutils from the portsdir is that even when it's installed gcc still uses the the base-binaries because gcc is statically linked. so in order to use the binutils from the ports dir you also have to install a gcc port (which gets linkey dynamically). a very dirty workaround is to install binutils from the ports, rename the base binary you don't want to use anymore and instead create a link to /usr/local/bin/*. here's an example. this way i could build mplayer with sse3 support. although the base gcc (4.2.1 in my case running 9-current) supports sse3, the base GNU assembler version (2.15) doesn't. what i did was to install the binutils port, `mv /usr/bin/as /usr/bin/as_old` and `ln -s /usr/local/bin/as /usr/bin/as`. now the base gcc picks up the new GNU assembler binary. cheers. alex oh...and i agree: binutils should be updated. actually a lot of base code needs to be updated. some of it hasn't been touched for over a decade. ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 14:36:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C93E106566B for ; 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charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: binutils X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:36:25 -0000 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:45:39 +0200 (CEST) Alexander Best (alexbestms@math.uni-muenster.de) replied: >there's a project called binutils in p4 but i don't know anything >about it (version, status, etc.). the problem with binutils from the >portsdir is that even when it's installed gcc still uses the the >base-binaries because gcc is statically linked. so in order to use the >binutils from the ports dir you also have to install a gcc port (which >gets linkey dynamically). > >a very dirty workaround is to install binutils from the ports, rename >the base binary you don't want to use anymore and instead create a >link to /usr/local/bin/*. > >here's an example. this way i could build mplayer with sse3 support. >although the base gcc (4.2.1 in my case running 9-current) supports >sse3, the base GNU assembler version (2.15) doesn't. > >what i did was to install the binutils port, >`mv /usr/bin/as /usr/bin/as_old` and `ln >-s /usr/local/bin/as /usr/bin/as`. > >now the base gcc picks up the new GNU assembler binary. > >cheers. >alex > > >oh...and i agree: binutils should be updated. actually a lot of base >code needs to be updated. some of it hasn't been touched for over a >decade. ;) Is FreeBSD-8.0 also going to continue to use the older version {GNU assembler 2.15 [FreeBSD] 2004-05-23} or are they updating to the latest version. If the obsolete version is all ready causing compiler problems, it would seem like the logical thing to do. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com There is brutality and there is honesty. There is no such thing as brutal honesty. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 14:41:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6A51065670 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahlerrd@yahoo.com) Received: from web51006.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51006.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE40D8FC0C for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 88422 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Oct 2009 14:41:19 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255185679; bh=5LOOC3erDv6Y938YR5AUJWpv/PraHCDGCzHs/nbmBj0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NvQWvxlca5qAsBQRFFF8uKeKAlzNvzSxa00aaJLoFUZAtAeuTIQUJcYoG68vTFoc4rEuMWxeVxc3Okx0qrgPFuof5RdSez4V9dKg8R7zeLaVghM5n51gNPt026sPOPwXi42zz1pjoUUSTlqYJKJ0LRMyKoLkwzdbC/yLDPZwueM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pLx/x//Uu/mt8UO7HdwEyAz2QA7Tv6YkejGCv+nRbhqsgFTLl24jYcJw/09DfhPQh150DiDxANDNfpMTNsHcFYTzNf0cQ7qYkotAsOK+p3UJALR6r8qhw3nK8h4jhdzbBQx5J4UACV/H7mj2XDKR8biAHZ4egp/bO2u3E8A53W4=; Message-ID: <319011.88077.qm@web51006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xe100sQVM1nBI8MFlIa8FBsyfxhmKRchwinf8GF7Q4GzabVZPsjIJ9O7oPcI6KvL.jOT51CQgzGook7clS5q1B96_ezPmlbvNxZ7Ncs8_lI7WQ4E1vAaAYnMF6u7CzfuDOUPPBwKyde97KJnHJQUT_iWqaIGFAFl6c.Ls0mcIY4pQKzTMghM07EQDBRxobwsctiqty2gZe7oVRwr4wP.jn7vLpoGbKeTu6ZqxWE143KSCfJtNVIRvzurBb2ma6lCGs0dVlaoNi67QRzS7doRSx_zvOvgnlAUMN_UxceOygudgXtaZx5tLMxgnRHo5hwjWyRQiSnxRJ.A_ddJrvyihnZgPp7amktPmRf1ZyxfAbvByXDB9xKsRpu10KpHIcINbwtMTTTUb9_KtG8m61SM9dEg3Ua7 Received: from [71.117.53.27] by web51006.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:41:19 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 07:41:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Mahlerwein To: FreeBSD-Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: conky calendar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:41:20 -0000 >From: Roland Smith =0A>Subject: Re: conky calendar=0A>To= : "PJ" =0A>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A>Da= te: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 9:27 AM=0A>=0A>On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 05:0= 1:34AM -0400, PJ wrote:=0A>> I'm having a bit of a time with the calendar.s= h script I =0A>> found on the Net; it doesn't display quite correctly.=0A>>= It should have brackets around the current date, but I =0A>> can't figure = out what is not functioning correctly:=0A>> =0A>> #!/bin/sh=0A>> cal | awk = 'NR>2' | sed -e 's/=A0=A0=A0/=A0 =A0 /g' -e 's/[^ ] /& /g' -e 's/..*/=A0 & = /' -e 's/ \('`date | awk '{print $2}'`'\) /\['`date | awk '{print $2}'`'\]/= '=0A>=0A>Look at the output of the date command:=0A>Sat Oct 10 15:12:39 CES= T 2009=0A>=0A>Change 'print $2' to 'print $3' to get the numercal date.=0A>= Or even simpler: use "date +%d" instead of "date | awk '{print $3}'".=0A>= =0A>Roland=0A=0AI could not get it to work until I changed the single quote= s in the last -e expression to double quotes. (This either interactively u= nder csh or as a script under sh). BTW, using `date +%s` and with an addit= ional minor change to make the numbers continue to line up ... Oh! This wi= ll not fix mis-alignments on days when it is not the end of the week, I don= 't think ... anyway.=0A=0Acal | awk 'NR>1' | sed -e 's/ / /g' -e 's/[^= ] /& /g' -e 's/..*/ &/' -e "s/\ `date +%d`/\[`date +%d`\]/"=0A=0AGives=0A= $ sh newcal.sh=0A Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa=0A 1 2 = 3=0A 4 5 6 7 8 9 [10]=0A 11 12 13 14 15 16 17=0A 18 19= 20 21 22 23 24=0A 25 26 27 28 29 30 31=0A=0ANow, if you had a = space character at the end of each line, you could do something like ...=0A= =0Acal | awk 'NR>1' | sed -e 's/ / /g' -e 's/[^ ] /& /g' -e 's/..*/ &= /' -e "s/\ `date +%d`\ /\[`date +%d`\]/"=0A=0AAnd then it would replace (un= derscore is space) "_8_" with "[8]" so it would always line up. You can't = do that without the space at the end of the line because the trailing numbe= rs look like this "_17" not "_17_". But, fix that, and you can use the abo= ve. That is left as an exercise for the reader. =0A=0A-Rich=0A=0A=0A = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 14:53:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713EA106566B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:53:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491478FC1C for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7055 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2009 14:53:44 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Oct 2009 14:53:44 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C18050879 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 36C131CC61; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:53:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091010103623.11ed0154@scorpio.seibercom.net> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:53:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20091010103623.11ed0154@scorpio.seibercom.net> (Jerry's message of "Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:36:23 -0400") Message-ID: <44hbu7mhao.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: binutils X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:53:45 -0000 Jerry writes: > On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:45:39 +0200 (CEST) > Alexander Best (alexbestms@math.uni-muenster.de) replied: > >>there's a project called binutils in p4 but i don't know anything >>about it (version, status, etc.). the problem with binutils from the >>portsdir is that even when it's installed gcc still uses the the >>base-binaries because gcc is statically linked. so in order to use the >>binutils from the ports dir you also have to install a gcc port (which >>gets linkey dynamically). >> >>a very dirty workaround is to install binutils from the ports, rename >>the base binary you don't want to use anymore and instead create a >>link to /usr/local/bin/*. >> >>here's an example. this way i could build mplayer with sse3 support. >>although the base gcc (4.2.1 in my case running 9-current) supports >>sse3, the base GNU assembler version (2.15) doesn't. >> >>what i did was to install the binutils port, >>`mv /usr/bin/as /usr/bin/as_old` and `ln >>-s /usr/local/bin/as /usr/bin/as`. >> >>now the base gcc picks up the new GNU assembler binary. >> >>cheers. >>alex >> >> >>oh...and i agree: binutils should be updated. actually a lot of base >>code needs to be updated. some of it hasn't been touched for over a >>decade. ;) > > Is FreeBSD-8.0 also going to continue to use the older version {GNU > assembler 2.15 [FreeBSD] 2004-05-23} or are they updating to the latest > version. If the obsolete version is all ready causing compiler > problems, it would seem like the logical thing to do. Unfortunately, it's under an unacceptable license. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 15:16:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53FE1065672 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873A78FC0A for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:16:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20091010151641327.JSEM22399@hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:16:41 +0000 Received: from email.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9AFGegU011656 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:16:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 172.16.1.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:16:40 -0500 Message-ID: <616588ccd58486086fef368167f0ad21.squirrel@email.polands.org> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:16:40 -0500 From: "Doug Poland" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20-RC2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: VirtualBox build failure on 7.2-stable (amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:16:42 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to build VirtualBox 3.0.51.r22902_2 on 7.2-stable amd64 and I keep getting the following failure: kBuild: Compiling RuntimeR0Drv - /usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/src/VBox/Runtime/r0drv/freebsd/assert-r0drv-freebsd.c In file included from /usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/src/VBox/Runtime/r0drv/freebsd/the-freebsd-kernel.h:60, from /usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/src/VBox/Runtime/r0drv/freebsd/alloc-r0drv-freebsd.c:34: /sys/vm/vm.h:64:24: error: machine/vm.h: No such file or directory kmk[2]: *** [/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/RuntimeR0Drv/r0drv/freebsd/alloc-r0drv-freebsd.o] Error 1 The failing command: @cc -c -O2 -Wall -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wno-unused -Wno-trigraphs -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wno-pointer-sign -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -Wnested-externs -O2 -fformat-extensions -ffreestanding -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 -fno-stack-protector -O2 -mtune=generic -fno-omit-frame-pointer -nostdinc -std=c99 -m64 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -Wundef -I/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/out/freebsd.amd64/release/gen-sys-hdrs -I/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/src/VBox/Runtime -I/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/src/VBox/Runtime/include -I/sys -I/sys/contrib/altq -I/sys/../include -I/usr/include -I/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/include -I/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/out/freebsd.amd64/release -DVBOX -DVBOX_OSE -DVBOX_WITH_64_BITS_GUESTS -DVBOX_WITH_HARDENING -DRTPATH_APP_PRIVATE=\"/usr/local/share/virtualbox\" -DRTPATH_APP_PRIVATE_ARCH=\"/usr/local/lib/virtualbox\" -DRTPATH_SHARED_LIBS=\"/usr/local/lib/virtualbox\" -DRTPATH_APP_DOCS=\"/usr/local/share/doc/virtualbox\" -DRT_OS_FREEBSD -D__FREEBSD__ -DRT_ARCH_AMD64 -D__AMD64__ -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -DIN_RING0 -DIN_RT_R0 -DIN_RT_R0 -DRT_WITH_VBOX -DRT_WITHOUT_NOCRT_WRAPPERS -DRT_NO_EXPORT_SYMBOL -Wp,-MD,/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/RuntimeR0Drv/r0drv/freebsd/alloc-r0drv-freebsd.o.dep -Wp,-MT,/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/RuntimeR0Drv/r0drv/freebsd/alloc-r0drv-freebsd.o -Wp,-MP -o /usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/RuntimeR0Drv/r0drv/freebsd/alloc-r0drv-freebsd.o /usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/src/VBox/Runtime/r0drv/freebsd/alloc-r0drv-freebsd.c kmk[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... In file included from /usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/src/VBox/Runtime/r0drv/freebsd/the-freebsd-kernel.h:60, from /usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/src/VBox/Runtime/r0drv/freebsd/assert-r0drv-freebsd.c:34: /sys/vm/vm.h:64:24: error: machine/vm.h: No such file or directory kmk[2]: *** [/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/RuntimeR0Drv/r0drv/freebsd/assert-r0drv-freebsd.o] Error 1 The failing command: @cc -c -O2 -Wall -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wno-unused -Wno-trigraphs -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wno-pointer-sign -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -Wnested-externs -O2 -fformat-extensions -ffreestanding -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 -fno-stack-protector -O2 -mtune=generic -fno-omit-frame-pointer -nostdinc -std=c99 -m64 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -Wundef -I/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/out/freebsd.amd64/release/gen-sys-hdrs -I/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/src/VBox/Runtime -I/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/src/VBox/Runtime/include -I/sys -I/sys/contrib/altq -I/sys/../include -I/usr/include -I/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/include -I/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/out/freebsd.amd64/release -DVBOX -DVBOX_OSE -DVBOX_WITH_64_BITS_GUESTS -DVBOX_WITH_HARDENING -DRTPATH_APP_PRIVATE=\"/usr/local/share/virtualbox\" -DRTPATH_APP_PRIVATE_ARCH=\"/usr/local/lib/virtualbox\" -DRTPATH_SHARED_LIBS=\"/usr/local/lib/virtualbox\" -DRTPATH_APP_DOCS=\"/usr/local/share/doc/virtualbox\" -DRT_OS_FREEBSD -D__FREEBSD__ -DRT_ARCH_AMD64 -D__AMD64__ -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -DIN_RING0 -DIN_RT_R0 -DIN_RT_R0 -DRT_WITH_VBOX -DRT_WITHOUT_NOCRT_WRAPPERS -DRT_NO_EXPORT_SYMBOL -Wp,-MD,/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/RuntimeR0Drv/r0drv/freebsd/assert-r0drv-freebsd.o.dep -Wp,-MT,/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/RuntimeR0Drv/r0drv/freebsd/assert-r0drv-freebsd.o -Wp,-MP -o /usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/out/freebsd.amd64/release/obj/RuntimeR0Drv/r0drv/freebsd/assert-r0drv-freebsd.o /usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902/src/VBox/Runtime/r0drv/freebsd/assert-r0drv-freebsd.c kmk[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902' kmk[2]: Entering directory `/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902' kmk[2]: *** Exiting with status 2 kmk[1]: *** [pass_libraries_this] Error 2 kmk[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/tmp/usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox/work/virtualbox-3.0.51r22902' kmk: *** [pass_libraries_order] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox. Looks like the offending file is: machine/vm.h: No such file or directory Does anyone know how to resolve this situation? -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 16:09:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98F4106566B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from snt0-omc1-s15.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc1-s15.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9D88FC34 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:09:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT103-W22 ([65.55.90.8]) by snt0-omc1-s15.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:09:10 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [219.67.152.99] From: Marwan Sultan To: Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:09:10 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <4ACFDD57.6000401@izb.knu.ac.kr> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2009 16:09:10.0202 (UTC) FILETIME=[005D69A0:01CA49C4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: bh@izb.knu.ac.kr, kraduk@googlemail.com, FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:09:11 -0000 Thank you all for your quick replies=2C I will go for 7.2 and will see the progress of 8. Above all=2C a special thanks to FreeBSD developers. =20 Best resgards=2C Marwan Sultan. =20 > Date: Sat=2C 10 Oct 2009 06:06:39 -0400 > From: jhell@DataIX.net > To: kraduk@googlemail.com > CC: bh@izb.knu.ac.kr=3B freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=3B dead_line@hotmai= l.com > Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. >=20 >=20 > On Sat=2C 10 Oct 2009 04:46=2C kraduk@ wrote: > > 2009/10/10 ?? > > > >> Marwan Sultan wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a ch= arm > >>> for many years. > >>> But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 > >>> This server will be a DNS server=2C apache=2C shell accounts..php=2C = mysql.. > >>> > >> > >> IMHO=2C i think that you should wait until 8.0-R out. > >> > >> Sincerely=2C > >> > > > > Never ideal to play the waiting game=2C as there is always something bi= gger > > and better round the corner. Best to go with something tried and tested= . > > >=20 > I will agree with that. And raise that its not a good idea to be part of= =20 > the early adopter club for commercial use. >=20 > --=20 >=20 > =3B=3B dataix.net!jhell 2048R/89D8547E 2009-09-30 > =3B=3B BSD since FreeBSD 4.2 Linux since Slackware 2.1 > =3B=3B 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E >=20 =0A= _________________________________________________________________=0A= Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free.=0A= http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 16:34:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4214F1065672 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:34:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2AE58FC16 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27307 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2009 16:34:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tUr1q/blKZXD52ExgWhlwrE3iQxcre270fGuIINdL/zc0rsd8DhLcQjeAT9HffjzON4ezT2PlkUVYxDOEmsjCrgHUgMXkO1urBWu68k57HDb9KgjrKbVndpN+nq3UJA/nQSxXQZBIRiwbAbidt2V0XRO7Dn5rqtk1gefm0wYTIA= ; Received: from c-67-189-183-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.183.172 with login) by smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 09:34:24 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: Tz3HXQcVM1k72ykB0hTcxK7O8TYcBMqqtn_45_nl5851bBDOEnH_elBLdH_thLjFvIj0BDB4mZzjL_941hCW12jx7dR9DI2M5pWnEFw7glFOcZVw974DjXbUP4hN0dJi8gzTokjl3tLS50TJP8fV_8JvOVmtzUdorjfwAcCMFWniH2q5d0UOlbVkKcOKqx0CUZ9frmzg3VWoveBQiiZ2dIg7T516w55uctTU08K.ktD2nPObULwPuNlENmH.v_uuy7pjcsw.IiIRgjs7_OKn7EUCn_SKxEE7SEZdX8bQfTIzwXrSz0B.Qx55sn1NbJ_WVqc.3hh_n6b9GxhgaDpcafxhhd.xSHJ388IFbth2fgO3Nn75rCKcuzAt X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AA8FF22860 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:34:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:34:23 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091010123423.0b64769f@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <44hbu7mhao.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <20091010103623.11ed0154@scorpio.seibercom.net> <44hbu7mhao.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: binutils X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:34:25 -0000 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:53:35 -0400 Lowell Gilbert (freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) replied: >Unfortunately, it's under an unacceptable license. I was not aware of that. What is the problem? Perhaps, if it is not all ready available, the FreeBSD developers can devise some directive to place in the '/etc/make.conf' file that would force the use of the 'port' version instead if it was available in a fashion similar to what is done with OpenSSL; i.e. "WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes". Perhaps, "WITH_BINUTILS_PORT=yes". -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. Blaise Pascal, "Pens_es", 1670 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 17:10:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964B5106568F for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:10:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8068FC12 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bsddesktop.xor.net (c122-106-77-13.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.77.13]) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n9AHAp74015251 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2009 04:10:53 +1100 Message-ID: <4AD0C014.80400@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 04:10:44 +1100 From: Alex R User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091009) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091010103623.11ed0154@scorpio.seibercom.net> <44hbu7mhao.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44hbu7mhao.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: binutils X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:10:55 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Unfortunately, it's under an unacceptable license. > > Wow. thats a great way to keep the operating system software up to date, use ancient versions of software to get around a stupid license agreement. What's being done to rectify that issue? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 17:35:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756ED106566B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:35:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-39.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-39.bluehost.com [69.89.20.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 42CC88FC16 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:35:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20585 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 17:35:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 17:35:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=RSJivLA3dZSup67tIsVcGZ2JpeMFcAZ1K6iTmdBqbFTmcIZ14OkEtyPJ6vEm8Y67Va6tUST3ycsPEzQqRuVtTTl8vsVq3zG1C6Wl0XxLo/3pfkntWx2y88wvNr/cmtZf; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MwfqO-0003zp-FD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:35:00 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:27:31 -0600 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:27:31 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091010172731.GB4669@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200910091528.n99FS90I025341@lurza.secnetix.de> <20091009221522.2fbcd123@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E39vaYmALEf/7YXx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091009221522.2fbcd123@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:35:01 -0000 --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 10:15:22PM +0100, RW wrote: > On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:28:09 +0200 (CEST) > Oliver Fromme wrote: >=20 > > Randi Harper wrote: > > > / =3D 1GB > > > /var =3D 2GB > > > /tmp =3D 2GB > >=20 > > Depending on the size of installed RAM, /tmp could also > > be a memory disk by default.=20 >=20 > I don't see why it should depend on the amount of RAM, since it would > normally be swap-backed. It should depend on the amount of RAM because putting /tmp in memory takes away from the RAM available to the rest of the system. If your system typically runs processes that consume a lot of RAM (like Firefox, ha ha), your system could bog down a lot during typical use if you use a RAM disk for /tmp without considering how much RAM you have and need to use. By default, I think, /tmp should be on the hard drive -- perhaps with an option when partitioning to set it up to use RAM instead of physical storage. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrQxAMACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWffQCg5T39o+ZvEhSFg1lVjteCnY1v 2ukAoKJMVvwqUrlc9HEKU0bPA+Fo3lmG =XPyA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 17:35:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0251065670 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:35:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout012.mac.com (asmtpout012.mac.com [17.148.16.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE978FC18 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:35:03 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from [17.151.94.226] by asmtp012.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KRB002TR7IDWI80@asmtp012.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20091010123423.0b64769f@scorpio.seibercom.net> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:35:01 -0700 References: <20091010103623.11ed0154@scorpio.seibercom.net> <44hbu7mhao.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20091010123423.0b64769f@scorpio.seibercom.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: binutils X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:35:03 -0000 On Oct 10, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:53:35 -0400 > Lowell Gilbert (freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) replied: >> Unfortunately, it's under an unacceptable license. > > I was not aware of that. What is the problem? Somewhere around binutils-2.17, it switched to using GPLv3. > Perhaps, if it is not all > ready available, the FreeBSD developers can devise some directive to > place in the '/etc/make.conf' file that would force the use of the > 'port' version instead if it was available in a fashion similar to > what > is done with OpenSSL; i.e. "WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes". Perhaps, > "WITH_BINUTILS_PORT=yes". That's not a bad idea, although you can likely export PREFIX=/usr and install the binutils port, and get the desired result. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 17:42:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2990106566B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0C38FC08 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9AHfbI0033083 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:41:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id WBzhfnSluVLO for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:41:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9AHV1Ef032834 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:31:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4AD0C4D5.1060308@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:31:01 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Tcpwrappers, sendmail, and unknown hosts... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:42:13 -0000 Seems like a lot of the spam we fight comes from hosts with no DNS entries. What about using this? ---------------------------------- $grep sendmail /etc/hosts.allow sendmail : KNOWN : allow sendmail : UNKNOWN : deny --------------------------------- Comments? anyone tried it? Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 17:43:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740D9106568B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:43:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-146.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-146.bluehost.com [67.222.38.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 460638FC12 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 30104 invoked by uid 0); 10 Oct 2009 17:43:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 17:43:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=T9+MC/QJdvtzDONrwJl+s4qTFdl2MJmbkrUHpshZPlHzmkkCigzz7mNdkaaMZP3IK+O0tC+pekFy6n2uF+VvBHQZSLt9cPV1x6o9LjLhH/vpVhBeooufRG9BvGbcZen5; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mwfyk-0005pE-6M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:43:38 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:36:08 -0600 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:36:08 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091010173608.GC4669@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200910071110.n97BANiE012861@lurza.secnetix.de> <4acd9c98.Mf06e1KlRm+blPrD%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:43:39 -0000 --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 11:39:58PM -0700, Randi Harper wrote: >=20 > I was thinking that a more acceptable default layout (leaving swap at it's > current default size) would be: >=20 > / =3D 1GB > /var =3D 2GB > /tmp =3D 2GB >=20 > One thing to remember is that these are just suggested defaults. Most > experienced users are going to use a custom layout when setting up a new > server, so the goal here is to have partition sizes that work for everyone > else. Although FreeBSD does work on older hardware, I'd guess that most of > the hardware it is being installed on now is less than 10 years old. The > defaults we currently have in place are outdated. They are targeted more = for > older systems, perhaps because sysinstall hasn't been touched in quite a > while. >=20 > I'm looking for community input on this, so feel free to pipe up with your > $.02. I think that's a great idea. As you pointed out, the defaults should be for most users, who don't really want to have to think about it, don't really want to have to deal with shuffling partitions around, et cetera. If you have an abnormal setup (say, a computer with a 2GB hard drive or one with 8GB of RAM so you want 2GB of RAM dedicated to swap), you should alter your partitioning scheme to suit. Someone mentioned giving the `home` directory its own partition. I think a separate partition for /usr/home, mounted within /usr, is a great idea. It would help substantially with system rebuilds, backups, and using separate drives for `home`, because that's where the majority of the stuff you want to keep between installs will reside. Basically everything else within /usr (with the possible exception of /usr/local/etc) is just what happens when you install and configure your system in the first place. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrQxggACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUF+gCg59xcUHa7IjSFJV6TEo2sTrKu Q7AAoMWK7iCPVvwKu8vLdPSbWiHIkH9/ =zZ9u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 17:55:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D8110656C0 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:55:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED118FC18 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:55:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (20.6.192-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.192.6.20]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8B0B8633322; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:55:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334DD12804; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:55:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:55:20 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091010195520.6336e014@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> In-Reply-To: <200910092035.AA2862088496@mail.Go2France.com> References: <200910092035.AA2862088496@mail.Go2France.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: lconrad@Go2France.com Subject: Re: postfix/amavids/sa/etc in FreeBSD jail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:55:22 -0000 Le Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:35:20 +0200, "Len Conrad" a =E9crit : > is a FreeBSD jail enough of a virtualized OS to run a full filtering > MX config setup exactly as on a native FreeBSD? Yes. Here I use one jail acting as a mail gateway and one for mail delivery. Works like a charm as it should. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 17:55:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA0F1065679 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53CC28FC14 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:55:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 91296 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2009 17:55:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lngd73xJx+3m9hg8xCr+ZgBKz33FR7ABeZPFEyQq7l1ofTj1QleSiZdGZrnHIhfOv7p05vIOUYr8t+0VhF8wlhvzvISfZo4NKKjBVsvybr4B2Clj4x10Ohd7u7+XnX6ktD8NGep9CIyhfNwMLckJ4dn4IjwmnjRFBhd9MUf6zBI= ; Received: from c-67-189-183-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.183.172 with login) by smtp103.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2009 10:55:26 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: eDTQdUIVM1mWUVcTJvZQwinEqqoQuopEU3eBpQWhtLy_XLnLoL_nf9vTFxxyJ_kk.shw8sZNNeziaQEEfql56GJQqMkVRV7wtGap_TdZq0bM1OSgcA2Hx98mg0_Lmz4oFd2OwIRQ_XlREiPvkz9QgdzpPRS0ulwWzkNbUVtAXVIwSmatUU8vPcc_64pioPY.d7iNpFQDwbN1lu_nHq7TQekVNoWYqmVP4JBdGVtzNGW8VJqK84OyhlH8QvO.jFiPVHbJ91sLnZS7LMzt4YTzHzS6x.FOxD9qyydk4ytn9btPICZNWL2E8XkfIc5vltrtLeCEGlo.ev6veCcfXdHkSi3pdDoG3Dc7LFMuZmHI3xQaWlPt6AD1TDnq X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 44CBA22860 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:55:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:55:25 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091010135525.372d713a@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20091010103623.11ed0154@scorpio.seibercom.net> <44hbu7mhao.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20091010123423.0b64769f@scorpio.seibercom.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: binutils X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:55:27 -0000 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:35:01 -0700 Chuck Swiger (cswiger@mac.com) replied: >On Oct 10, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Jerry wrote: >> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:53:35 -0400 >> Lowell Gilbert (freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) replied: >>> Unfortunately, it's under an unacceptable license. >> >> I was not aware of that. What is the problem? > >Somewhere around binutils-2.17, it switched to using GPLv3. > >> Perhaps, if it is not all >> ready available, the FreeBSD developers can devise some directive to >> place in the '/etc/make.conf' file that would force the use of the >> 'port' version instead if it was available in a fashion similar to >> what >> is done with OpenSSL; i.e. "WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes". Perhaps, >> "WITH_BINUTILS_PORT=yes". > >That's not a bad idea, although you can likely export PREFIX=/usr and >install the binutils port, and get the desired result. The only problem with that is that it would get over written when updating 'world'. I am not sure if a user could exclude binutils from being installed when building world. Nor, am I certain that it would not cause a problem somewhere down the line. I don't like messing with system files. In any case, the FreeBSD developers are going to eventually develop a working relationship with software written using the GPLv3 license. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com A widow is more sought after than an old maid of the same age. Addison From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 17:56:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE101065694 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:56:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wtf.jlaine@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582878FC13 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so7277362fxm.36 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:56:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-operating-system; bh=wS5kI4vUS816VDszzKy9VZobS/XrKYVdr6SdHfjnz4c=; b=Sjnotj1hKIZjh3e1FlLbJ7cC5B7oaT68gOg1f/r5MEy/wz/0kvgwifTEUTsiGHl3GE 63DECm+8onOQEm16ulrBvdN0Lb9myd07Vf34mT1Z7hbrPDPspD5MepNCvupxjwDoY+uU nF+vl3vk/4Haf7EoXZ1VHPC9yi45L7f94MU4k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-operating-system; b=u6yl+icIFm+jk+ANd5saO+mBzGrudKpwWccsYPLHMm8TLXJmWb55qF+IH2NuojoESG V3ELBGAUu/x4INKqNJTDVrT63BjUCDMg70PS5II/F25ePZJsu7dZA+o3Ggt3XeNcqwE6 QK1j9BhPYK3+oJeLe/1t+pJO+U2hcWnw2Kd40= Received: by 10.204.26.147 with SMTP id e19mr3327996bkc.149.1255197381984; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aperture_lab ([77.66.145.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm3559200fks.8.2009.10.10.10.56.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aperture_lab (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:56:18 +0400 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:56:18 +0400 From: Jeff Laine To: Kevin Kinsey Message-ID: <20091010175617.GA84102@free.bsd.loc> Mail-Followup-To: Jeff Laine , Kevin Kinsey , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AD0C4D5.1060308@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AD0C4D5.1060308@daleco.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 i386 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tcpwrappers, sendmail, and unknown hosts... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:56:23 -0000 On Sat,10-10-2009 [12:31:01], Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Seems like a lot of the spam we fight comes from > hosts with no DNS entries. What about using this? > > ---------------------------------- > > $grep sendmail /etc/hosts.allow > > sendmail : KNOWN : allow > sendmail : UNKNOWN : deny > > --------------------------------- > > Comments? anyone tried it? > Hi Kevin! What you need is 'require_rdns' feature. Also from my own expirience, dnsbl feature of Sendmail works great for spammers scum. -- Best regards, Jeff | "Nobody wants to say how this works. | | Maybe nobody knows ..." | | Xorg.conf(5) | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 18:04:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE4D106566B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AC28FC12 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB9F3C88B; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:04:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n9AI4Ig5002557; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:04:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:04:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20091010200418.8e880250.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091010173608.GC4669@guilt.hydra> References: <200910071110.n97BANiE012861@lurza.secnetix.de> <4acd9c98.Mf06e1KlRm+blPrD%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20091010173608.GC4669@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:04:21 -0000 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:36:08 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > Someone mentioned giving the `home` directory its own partition. I think > a separate partition for /usr/home, mounted within /usr, is a great idea. > It would help substantially with system rebuilds, backups, and using > separate drives for `home`, because that's where the majority of the > stuff you want to keep between installs will reside. Basically > everything else within /usr (with the possible exception of > /usr/local/etc) is just what happens when you install and configure your > system in the first place. If you can estimate disk requirements good enough, or simply have huge hard disks that can compensate any requirements, there's no problem giving /home a separate partition. There's no need to put the mountpoint into /usr, because /home could "physically" exist; in the "home in usr" setting, /home is just a symlink to /usr/home. Personally, I often put /home on a separate partition, simply because of comfortability. If I can't say enough about how /usr and /home will grow, I go with the default approach. I sometimes even use the "one big /" setting. One advantage of /home as a separate partition is that you can easily use dump to create a backup - you simply backup the whole partition. You could have a directory, let's say /home/settings, where you keep duplicates of /etc, /usr/local/etc and other files that contain settings you consider worth being backed up. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 18:05:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D7E10656A5 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2868FC21 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:05:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A7F3C928; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:05:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n9AI5tka002564; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:05:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:05:54 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20091010200554.30d34cc8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091010135525.372d713a@scorpio.seibercom.net> References: <20091010103623.11ed0154@scorpio.seibercom.net> <44hbu7mhao.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20091010123423.0b64769f@scorpio.seibercom.net> <20091010135525.372d713a@scorpio.seibercom.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: binutils X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:05:57 -0000 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:55:25 -0400, Jerry wrote: > The only problem with that is that it would get over written when > updating 'world'. I am not sure if a user could exclude binutils from > being installed when building world. Maybe further problems arise when using freebsd-update which relies on several default settings (e. g. GENERIC kernel)... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 18:55:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEC51065693 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hulibyaka@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892798FC13 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so1894584ewy.43 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:55:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=yipgP0Xk+IOIAEwzG4Atjwl4Gi5u6ksQboOtvCBBT6g=; b=sfNOhTMh+V22SCNnpItO5mQYXxuvRq3XYHH4V/U23EbxOQicm5R838JOb09yuJBNt6 Hzq7fRIjow3N56rhNjqotfLb9pDtqP9EGmHthVdNTV5072cNpx2Y2V6NW8fr/u1IPDHX HQ+GZ+VqG2ReC9mPHdadaiCEdrpzOK/q2x6G0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CYRfdEgZHXPTXRWGAl7jkfjXB4Jo7KlB2KC68kiC4hGorRFzas5rSY28DpnejrVdoJ Cn0FmZUoLDc6wZ9x8Rrzgpd8GBK2k+01notpzVGYqb7LXuIUfK3diCPQAxZHcgf3JPt9 9u5S5tUDoFyI5aj0T8ZxCXQw3l5w3cRvsYyMg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.1 with SMTP id d1mr1350717wef.136.1255199164271; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:26:04 +0400 Message-ID: From: hulibyaka hulibyaka To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: release listing available for freebsd-update(8) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:55:18 -0000 Whether there is a method of reception of the list of the releases accessible to updating through freebsd-update(8)? For example, if open http://update5.freebsd.org catalogs "to-N.M-RELEASE\*" are visible - where it is possible to be updated. But it well thanking for Indexes options on the WEB server - for an example http://update1.freebsd.org/ will not allow to see anything. It would be fine to deduce the list of accessible releases by freebsd-update (8) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 19:28:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8B51065676 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahlerrd@yahoo.com) Received: from web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93F638FC15 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 65887 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Oct 2009 19:28:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255202888; bh=Z/UrX0KjwLrXDrLzhEU4fXuGnbK2OSZoKwkM3mJsFms=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GcXjCLO0sonWrGZQ6e+/YQ9e5QVnwo2dm40yMiXnwUIvVyiopcHQdU1q/bvmetnyVO4FS1smqrfP4gk5lWefRBumZ3jW9r3kBBSpGcq3DFuBLje2RxG4qTeNk2NxAIzZz7aNlfuift1IVSFwS54GUwrBQt1UT03vHnXm/TqQ/pc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EPl6WQUv7wd/0cKO4U+jQifF0c8TZ0KqILMD7E70nrfXt7vN9YZIw4RshaW4zs+QOVhpET7lXQrLqmNc2mDyNSThij2hc5oMRbmJvDO3jDZPrUcvryu3YzrwDxO6WQwREH+zqnA7qJjDI4KnnLQx6VA8aJK+LTq9uy2tSt/0LU0=; Message-ID: <877212.65138.qm@web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cgpHugcVM1n6djgQUf9aB4a6078EI.nPA9oIgVtd9CsDnnOZ1E7Gfp0cOSrYyWduoPqwXlOaHeoRPLespt4O67tcVWuQednckMIQu_2nqYEK6Fju_G188g_Z05BXaBlJG2DQI0.Y05pWR8Xb1IQrocA1tM5VK1ctEtnqKsLk5yPwL0CUsc.N6iVXYxELCiYqB5Lz9NRAAv0xXUbAJ_JHbWoZkqvjTJhkQ0HL8OjpAk_dRFysht_YTn2Rg3AOnZBLi.rrafSZQc6WERPTo4GvLjfIYyUDVBn6bRvppstk2d9_f.z6Fmj7UvOmHxGoMcPvY8Hcnz8Q_w8lvNOawSzSFdRMPsROqkzT6Hr0SJ2sx4ttjvGSL49F6Op8xxvdAPjatg9HfBwQBv_Q.8k- Received: from [71.117.53.27] by web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:28:08 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:28:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Mahlerwein To: FreeBSD-Questions In-Reply-To: <20091010200418.8e880250.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:28:09 -0000 --- On Sat, 10/10/09, Polytropon wrote:=0A=0A> From: Pol= ytropon =0A> Subject: Re: / almost out of space just afte= r installation=0A> To: "Chad Perrin" =0A> Cc: freebsd-= questions@freebsd.org=0A> Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 2:04 PM=0A> On = Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:36:08 -0600,=0A> Chad Perrin =0A> = wrote:=0A> > Someone mentioned giving the `home` directory its own=0A> part= ition.=A0 I think=0A> > a separate partition for /usr/home, mounted within= =0A> /usr, is a great idea.=0A> > It would help substantially with system r= ebuilds,=0A> backups, and using=0A> > separate drives for `home`, because t= hat's where the=0A> majority of the=0A> > stuff you want to keep between in= stalls will=0A> reside.=A0 Basically=0A> > everything else within /usr (wit= h the possible=0A> exception of=0A> > /usr/local/etc) is just what happens = when you install=0A> and configure your=0A> > system in the first place.=0A= > =0A> If you can estimate disk requirements good enough, or=0A> simply=0A>= have huge hard disks that can compensate any requirements,=0A> there's=0A>= no problem giving /home a separate partition. There's no=0A> need=0A> to p= ut the mountpoint into /usr, because /home could=0A> "physically"=0A> exist= ; in the "home in usr" setting, /home is just a=0A> symlink to=0A> /usr/hom= e.=0A> =0A> Personally, I often put /home on a separate partition,=0A> simp= ly=0A> because of comfortability. If I can't say enough about how=0A> /usr= =0A> and /home will grow, I go with the default approach. I=0A> sometimes= =0A> even use the "one big /" setting.=0A> =0A> One advantage of /home as a= separate partition is that you=0A> can=0A> easily use dump to create a bac= kup - you simply backup the=0A> whole=0A> partition. You could have a direc= tory, let's say=0A> /home/settings,=0A> where you keep duplicates of /etc, = /usr/local/etc and other=0A> files=0A> that contain settings you consider w= orth being backed up.=0A> =0A> =0A> -- =0A> Polytropon=0A> Magdeburg, Germa= ny=0A> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0=0A> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...=0A=0AI= agree completely. I also go a step farther and put most other things that= I consider user data in there. Like Subversion repositories and non-user-= specific Samba shares (E.g. "public" type shares). I do not generally want= /tmp on memory, though. While it can be fun and quite a festive thing, I = have far too many systems too limited in RAM to want to do this (my current= "production" system at home is 512 MB of RAM, my "play" box is 256 MB). T= he only time I can really think I'd want /tmp to be in RAM is if I already = had too much RAM for the needs of the box - otherwise, just give me the RAM= ...=0A=0AWhile I'm reasonably happy rolling my own FS sizes, I would be eve= n happier if I didn't have to. As long as we're doing the wish list, I'd g= uess for this (all numbers significantly flexible):=0A=0ADrive < 16 GB =3D = keep current layout?=0A=0ADrive > 16 and < 40 GB =3D =0A/ =3D 1 GB=0Aswap = =3D 1.5x RAM =0A/tmp =3D 2 GB=0A/var =3D 2 GB=0A/usr =3D remaining space=0A= =0ADrive > 40 GB =3D =0A/ =3D 1 GB=0Aswap =3D 1.5x RAM =0A/tmp =3D 2 GB=0A/= var =3D 2 GB=0A/usr =3D 1/2 of remaining space, min 20 GB, max 35 GB=0A/hom= e =3D everything else.=0A=0AAnd, as long as this is a wish list, how about.= ..=0A=0A1) When I create, I would love to not to *always* have to backspace= over like 17 digits every time to type something short like "16G". Can we= just make it operate in MB or something instead of blocks? Does anyone ne= ed smaller than 1 MB divisions now? =0A1.1) If it would take a decimal poi= nt, I'd be fine with GB, for that matter. (For compatibility, allow either= , or . as decimal.)=0A1.2) Or if there was just a quick key to delete all = 14 digits of "number of blocks left" at once.=0A=0A2) When I 'auto' size, I= end up deleting most except / and swap partition and remaking (it is just = habit I 'a'uto before I think, and no harm in it) except the last few times= I've done it, as I deleted all the other partitions, / kept expanding from= the default (512 MB?) until it was 1.5 GB. So I had to deleted them ALL a= nd start over. Bug or Feature?=0A=0A3) Ability to resize any partition dir= ectly, if there's empty space left. So if I have 30 GB of my 400 GB drive = already decided upon, and I decide that I want /var to be 5 GB instead of 2= GB, I would love to be able to just highlight it and press some key to "Re= size" and it would just move the rest of them up to fit.=0A=0AOf course, Ju= st because this is a bike shed doesn't mean I will get upset if any or even= all of this is too much to implement and doesn't make it in any revision o= f sysinstall. It's just a wish list. 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I want to ask you for help in winning ipod nano, if you register on biggest social network here: http://vkontakte.ru/reg632660 i'm can win :) Thank you! :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 19:40:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CCA106566B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:40:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74688FC0A for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n9AJe16B017232; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:40:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n9AJe034017228; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:40:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:40:00 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Nerius Landys Message-ID: <20091010194000.GA17212@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4ACFDD57.6000401@izb.knu.ac.kr> <560f92640910091944k66f8c595rcbdb296e0dbfc078@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <560f92640910091944k66f8c595rcbdb296e0dbfc078@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: ?????? , FreeBSD Questions , Marwan Sultan Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:40:36 -0000 On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 07:44:04PM -0700, Nerius Landys wrote: > My 2 cents, as far as I know 7.1 will be maintained longer than 7.2 > according to the freebsd.org website. That is, security fixes will be > rolled out for 7.1 a while after 7.2 reaches End Of Life. That made > me decide to go with 7.1 when I had to make the switch from 7.0 a few > months ago. 8.0 was not out at that time. I don't think that is correct. There must be something unclear there. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 20:00:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876BC106566B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:00:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BCD8FC08 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-245.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.245]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE8224AAB; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:00:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n9AK0rdW002852; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:00:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:00:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com Message-Id: <20091010220053.f0d8b373.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <877212.65138.qm@web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20091010200418.8e880250.freebsd@edvax.de> <877212.65138.qm@web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:00:57 -0000 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:28:08 -0700 (PDT), Richard Mahlerwein wrote: > I agree completely. I also go a step farther and put most other > things that I consider user data in there. Like Subversion > repositories and non-user-specific Samba shares (E.g. "public" > type shares). Historically, there was /export in Solaris. The home directory was /export/home, because it was usually distributed via NFS to other machines. Things that were shared, but not primarily under- stood as "user data", went there, too, such as repositories, file collections and exported storages - files that have not been "connected" to a specific user. > While I'm reasonably happy rolling my own FS sizes, I would be > even happier if I didn't have to. In ZFS, you don't have to. :-) According to your suggestion: > Drive > 16 and < 40 GB = > / = 1 GB > swap = 1.5x RAM I know that there was the idea of saying "swap = 2 x the maximum of RAM you could put into the box", but is this approach still valid today? > Drive > 40 GB = > /var = 2 GB There could be a different requirement, especially when someone wants to run a) an anonymous FTP server (/var/ftp subtree) b) database operations (/var/db subtree) and have the /var sizes grow very fast. Of course, there's no problem putting databases and FTP stuff somewhere under /home (which is in /usr in your example). > And, as long as this is a wish list, how about... > > 1) When I create, I would love to not to *always* have to > backspace over like 17 digits every time to type something > short like "16G". Can we just make it operate in MB or > something instead of blocks? There is an easier approach, I'd call it "overwrite with first keystroke". This is common for many dialog libraries, such as in Midnight Commander. For example, the content of the input field is 33554432 and the cursor is at the last position; if I press "1", the content is then 1 so I can easily continue entering "g" and have 1g with 2 keystrokes. The backspace and navigation keys should work as they do now. Maybe Meta-Backspace (Esc, then Backspace) would be available to erase the whole content of the input field as you suggested in 1.2. Maybe this is a nice item for a dialog wishlist for sysinstall. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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(80-219-26-31.dclient.hispeed.ch [80.219.26.31]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm143419eyz.40.2009.10.10.13.08.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:08:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Anselm Strauss Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:08:38 +0200 Message-Id: <744E86AA-8024-4A1D-903A-11B6177B4D95@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Subject: gpart mbr scheme X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:08:41 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to partition a compact flash card with gpart. When I want to create a new MBR scheme it always complains: -> gpart create -s mbr da0 gpart: scheme 'mbr': Invalid argument The GPT scheme works fine: -> gpart create -s gpt da0 da0 created -> gpart show da0 => 34 8027645 da0 GPT (3.8G) 34 8027645 - free - (3.8G) -> gpart destroy da0 da0 destroyed The kernel driver seems to be loaded: -> kldstat -v | grep mbr 278 g_mbr 277 g_mbrext Does gpart in 7.2 not support MBR partitioning? Cheers, Anselm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 20:23:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0371065672 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f195.google.com (mail-qy0-f195.google.com [209.85.221.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94AB8FC0A for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk33 with SMTP id 33so7855904qyk.29 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:23:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mlc59/biHcUTWkRdIGgz/yNaNLn/D4uz4ywyLsb9+5M=; b=KMTH9SxwGISbOyq7MHR/wukumAMq8YBqhxpkIlXSGn3f8MkmPBIKDYnK2LOPoiX+zq KStxzq5JG+WW1z3rkqJGbJ/xuT2NbLFxc9OROeZjkeYO/oP+WW3OVhpS060oNmM9kIsm IVGzBBWeZTJJjTlNiRnt2nyqND8gW4OJsVJDc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U2c9A5VcZZIjl4tZRaa1Q5C/qS1CFVs8RAOh/stFb3zRwSqHaOTrM8s/NNiCYx7Wpn oA/t+SDq2TjsCdT/I7qs9yfNdyFGhL07yWIFzOc5H+1e0n7orn9eYMtqZ9gHaGD3JEjY eVspT0IefO9YvwNE9i/TKglL+ajAqfpbrCxU4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.12.212 with SMTP id y20mr2118577qcy.16.1255206233248; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:23:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091010194000.GA17212@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4ACFDD57.6000401@izb.knu.ac.kr> <560f92640910091944k66f8c595rcbdb296e0dbfc078@mail.gmail.com> <20091010194000.GA17212@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:23:53 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640910101323v36aa49aat5b88f6542bd8e169@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Jerry McAllister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: ?????? , FreeBSD Questions , Marwan Sultan Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:23:54 -0000 >> My 2 cents, as far as I know 7.1 will be maintained longer than 7.2 >> according to the freebsd.org website. =A0That is, security fixes will be >> rolled out for 7.1 a while after 7.2 reaches End Of Life. =A0That made >> me decide to go with 7.1 when I had to make the switch from 7.0 a few >> months ago. =A08.0 was not out at that time. > > I don't think that is correct. =A0There must be something unclear there. http://security.freebsd.org/ Near the bottom of the page mentioned above, there is a table. RELENG_7_1 EoL is January 31, 2011, RELENG_7_2 EoL is May 31, 2010 according to the chart. That is a difference of 8 months. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 20:39:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F90106566B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52EB78FC1A for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E61AEB5698; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:39:07 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3514E4C8005; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:39:07 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yh4tAFURiGnb; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:39:07 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl56-135.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.183.135]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16444C8004; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:39:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9AKd5JV096178 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:39:05 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9AKd3bI096177; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:39:03 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Polytropon References: <13EB5F63-E8D2-47EA-8E56-F052B697EBB8@olivent.com> <20091009214032.2cecf345.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:38:56 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20091009214032.2cecf345.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:40:32 +0200") Message-ID: <87skdr6l27.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: Marwan Sultan , Mikel King , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:39:09 -0000 --=-=-= On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:40:32 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > But allow me a follow-up question: Is 8.0-RC1 already recommendable > for a home desktop, or would 7.2 be the version of choice? I'm asking > this because of the many improvements especially the USB subsystem has > gotten in 8 which would be important for the "plug and play > experience" for USB devices... There are a few rough edges that you may or may not hit by testing the pre-release RC versions. They are mostly related to recent work in networking code, USB disk detection at boot time and a couple of other annoyances. So if you can help with the testing of these pre-release snapshots it may be worth to prepare for at least *some* problems with the latest 8.X-STABLE code. Having said that, the release engineering team is actively working to get these issues resolved. The FreeBSD Wiki shows a list of things that the RE team know as `being fixed and still being researched' at: http://wiki.freebsd.org/8.0TODO/#head-4fd8d27523492bffb9c0064bf41575c6db8fd194 Having said that, it is worth noting that if you can _help_ by running one of the RC versions and reporting back to us, you are more than welcome. The more testing the RC versions get, the greater number of pre-release issues we will discover and fix _before_ the final images are cut. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrQ8OYACgkQ1g+UGjGGA7bkRACdFNWFz5Nu7ZZxJPPIXW22LXl/ WtQAn38yXFokFO3s1B73VtEsCmvYzFg1 =f3io -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 20:41:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71296106568D for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3EA8FC1E for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E207EB4E65; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:41:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439504C8005; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:41:30 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OoS8+g97ryjL; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:41:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl56-135.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.183.135]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094244C8004; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:41:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9AKfSOe096186 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:41:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9AKfQV9096185; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:41:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za References: <35f70db10910091408x38271c39t80d669a5c61f6898@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:41:26 +0300 In-Reply-To: <35f70db10910091408x38271c39t80d669a5c61f6898@mail.gmail.com> (Ross Cameron's message of "Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:08:42 +0200") Message-ID: <87ocof6ky1.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Marwan Sultan Subject: Re: best FBSD version for commercial use. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:41:31 -0000 On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:08:42 +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: >On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Marwan Sultan wrote: >> Hello Gurus, >> Im planing to move out of my FreeBSD 4.8-R! which served me like a >> charm for many years. >> >> But not sure if I should go for 6.3 or 7.2 >> >> This server will be a DNS server, apache, shell accounts..php, mysql. > > I would definitely go with a 7.2 install (until 8.0 is marked as > production ready by the fBSD dev team). Excellent advice :-) To the original poster: The place to look for information about supported releases, the latest release versions, planned release life-time and support cycles, etc. is the FreeBSD web site. If you haven't already found the relevant pages, please visit http://www.freebsd.org/releases/ and have a look around. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 20:45:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9613B1065670 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:45:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout012.mac.com (asmtpout012.mac.com [17.148.16.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8423E8FC25 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:45:22 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from [17.151.94.226] by asmtp012.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KRB00EVKGADGV00@asmtp012.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <966D092E-E74C-4305-AED3-0052BD136258@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20091010135525.372d713a@scorpio.seibercom.net> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:44:36 -0700 References: <20091010103623.11ed0154@scorpio.seibercom.net> <44hbu7mhao.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20091010123423.0b64769f@scorpio.seibercom.net> <20091010135525.372d713a@scorpio.seibercom.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: binutils X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:45:22 -0000 On Oct 10, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Jerry wrote: >> That's not a bad idea, although you can likely export PREFIX=/usr and >> install the binutils port, and get the desired result. > > The only problem with that is that it would get over written when > updating 'world'. I am not sure if a user could exclude binutils from > being installed when building world. Nor, am I certain that it would > not cause a problem somewhere down the line. I don't like messing with > system files. While you bring up a perfectly valid concern, if you want to avoid interfering with the base system version, the default behavior of ports ought to be to install both binutils and a gcc which uses that under /usr/local. You might also look into the -B flag to gcc. > In any case, the FreeBSD developers are going to eventually develop a > working relationship with software written using the GPLv3 license. Faced with the decision between adopting GPLv3 code or writing a BSD- licensed replacement such as Tim Kientzle did with bsdtar, well, the project is actively pursuing the latter option. GPLv2 and CDDL code can and has been included with the baseline system for a few cases where the exceptional utility of that software (such as ZFS, DTrace, and the GNU compiler toolchain) justifies doing so, but if you check the list archives, producing a BSD-licensed operating system is described as an important goal of the project. It sounds like you are currently free to run and use GPLv3 code for what you are doing, and you are welcome to do so-- either by rolling your own or by taking advantage of ports to set things up the way you want. Keeping GPLv3 code in ports allows you to make that decision without affecting other users of FreeBSD which cannot use GPLv3 code in their situation. I hope that this addresses your concerns, and that you do obtain the SSE3-aware compiler toolchain you are (or whoever the OP was :-) looking for.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 21:23:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441F71065697 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD0C8FC32 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (client-81-109-255-154.winn.adsl.virginmedia.com [81.109.255.154]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED9258315; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:23:29 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20091010222329.0000274b@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20091010220053.f0d8b373.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20091010200418.8e880250.freebsd@edvax.de> <877212.65138.qm@web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20091010220053.f0d8b373.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2cvs27 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , mahlerrd@yahoo.com Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:23:35 -0000 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:00:53 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:28:08 -0700 (PDT), Richard Mahlerwein > wrote: > > I agree completely. I also go a step farther and put most other > > things that I consider user data in there. Like Subversion > > repositories and non-user-specific Samba shares (E.g. "public" > > type shares). > > Historically, there was /export in Solaris. The home directory > was /export/home, because it was usually distributed via NFS to > other machines. Things that were shared, but not primarily under- > stood as "user data", went there, too, such as repositories, > file collections and exported storages - files that have not > been "connected" to a specific user. > > > > > While I'm reasonably happy rolling my own FS sizes, I would be > > even happier if I didn't have to. > > In ZFS, you don't have to. :-) > > > > According to your suggestion: > > > Drive > 16 and < 40 GB = > > / = 1 GB > > swap = 1.5x RAM > > I know that there was the idea of saying "swap = 2 x the maximum > of RAM you could put into the box", but is this approach still > valid today? Having just built a desktop PC which can fit 24GB RAM (but has 6GB installed currently), I don't think having 48GB swap really makes any sense. With minidumps you don't even need swap=1x RAM any more, so I've started allocating up to 4GB swap in my machines, which should still provide enough warning of a runaway process. -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 22:00:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E0B106566B for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:00:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4528FC08 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so1957480ewy.43 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:00:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=815aIUKbbJwKYl5+ctIjtnADs8d46qhD9r+WuG+opN4=; b=Ae7tzEuVn/Ec1Wha81X10nt2kt/rqxpvYt6l7xOU6S/O9EG5a6kFUDbVWQCUVrMqNC 6z6mtljt8T1qQ9lnwPbYwCNI5/nV92jF3s4Fous1nrkpaiSrNi14wLHFtXtap1e6mnW+ 7UD+5nH3D7zVd/nfWac5x+AXPxGXe7VltsAjA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hut6uDXq7Q/1ZF5hoU2nVJ5saAUXi/Smm73AKd1ldnGCha3TiyRruMM6/xvEBaBdHH hSv4C0zpWlBZVaed2rtxk5KPAP4PPmbdQZniOu67Pi808dziAydRaL5OU2A03+CF+XNV kApUxfqNXO1q/fXBIHaJWLwbP0P5N/5Jcqj7k= Received: by 10.211.161.22 with SMTP id n22mr2074640ebo.83.1255212025628; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm669443eyd.38.2009.10.10.15.00.22 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:00:18 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091010230018.435dc8f2@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20091010172731.GB4669@guilt.hydra> References: <200910091528.n99FS90I025341@lurza.secnetix.de> <20091009221522.2fbcd123@gumby.homeunix.com> <20091010172731.GB4669@guilt.hydra> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:00:28 -0000 On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:27:31 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 10:15:22PM +0100, RW wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:28:09 +0200 (CEST) > > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > Depending on the size of installed RAM, /tmp could also > > > be a memory disk by default. > > > > I don't see why it should depend on the amount of RAM, since it > > would normally be swap-backed. > > It should depend on the amount of RAM because putting /tmp in memory > takes away from the RAM available to the rest of the system. If your > system typically runs processes that consume a lot of RAM (like > Firefox, ha ha), your system could bog down a lot during typical use > if you use a RAM disk for /tmp without considering how much RAM you > have and need to use. By default, I think, /tmp should be on the > hard drive -- perhaps with an option when partitioning to set it up > to use RAM instead of physical storage. But it's not really a true RAM disk unless you use specify a malloc backed md device - which you should never do because it keeps the /tmp data in RAM unconditionally. tmpfs and swap-backed md devices normally used for /tmp are similar to conventional partitions in that they are disk-based storage cached in RAM. The difference is that because swap is ephemeral there's no need to commit updates to the backing store except for memory management reasons. Most people's /tmp requirements are pretty modest compared to modern swap and RAM sizes, but my /tmp device is ~3 times RAM size and it doesn't seem to create problems when I fill it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 10 23:12:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912C9106568F for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahlerrd@yahoo.com) Received: from web51010.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51010.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.39.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A00B8FC15 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 47548 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Oct 2009 23:12:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1255216340; bh=cIbY1F+oY0EitLeLlYiKZUY+Ll2dPtGfrY2dwxGT7ug=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uouVJCYTwOnlfTLTb9tt263JsCRSY3HpsdkvxKs8qGYNLFjO60ZV/S+FzQLmv15LFOhWmHfVny3/IxvadgrobHm7yLhlIwYaHeiZUJiloPT8BgdkwPWtJ2sDeKmYLl+akr+v4lIno8mBdGopRuGPGK1gSmXQzxmLIKp8d60ZLms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=t60iEc0kSOFP0vUZ+1P9Up+8cEQ5NxMpnnhnG3Pdvx0RkPp37DC0XQdGJo9V+Y3uBK0kbCeQWHzwskpUs7G7iHsD6lNut/8e6K1NDr5V94ZH5jEu8RM60oYkL1uKTVicXzdkuRVNSll50nknlhQVV8zoPK8ZK97vYYzl3tq+MXI=; Message-ID: <681720.47074.qm@web51010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: YsIpqAkVM1m6n7aAJTMqGODSYxr6gH.QOfBsdtTioH4LQxIjplI5mlA.etZZJhFG1yH_HTU7D.uy7kZWk710GuIiHeZvTScCHYCDLRP.vv2iywzGsBexKEaIsIpwyDkMz2QWRYTRCz7XRepUuId1Bqi.pl2MJPR_XRma3nhTDmh6BiogxVsQLUkgEEQEtRehtgVbxd26l1O0NRrYgvicnXJ_T6peDm_F7E6x0vgDxS7KOwutLC5UAFbPszq2v7x62tUVANFf_YPV1RUP9yco0ngAk40eX1hN_7FtAmns3v4Btz4ytmnDQvW1yfqDcj__h9.eH1GUtLjNeMjwzPjmQzQySUp3OLV4kqA5f4Lyx8SuwRB9gd_4KEUlAWyQnM.HJmhTxCYJXzjHVHBzpbedrUDSMPmkdpEpSM64_Q-- Received: from [71.117.53.27] by web51010.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:12:20 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:12:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Mahlerwein To: FreeBSD-Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:12:21 -0000 > From: Polytropon > Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation > Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 4:00 PM > On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:28:08 -0700 > (PDT), Richard Mahlerwein > wrote: > According to your suggestion: >=20 > > Drive > 16 and < 40 GB =3D=20 > > / =3D 1 GB > > swap =3D 1.5x RAM=20 >=20 > I know that there was the idea of saying "swap =3D 2 x the maximum > of RAM you could put into the box", but is this approach still > valid today? Unknown, but since most servers support more RAM than you are likely to put= in them*, I think it would make more sense to set swap to 2x the largest _= likely_ amount of RAM (assuming the 2x rule IS good in a general sense).=A0= I seem to recall the reason for the 2x was a combination of reasons, but i= t seemed the most important internally was because the memory management ro= utines in place when the rule was created were built to be most effective a= t that particular ratio.=A0 This was many, many years ago, and heaven knows= I could be totally wrong ... so some research may be warranted. *The HP DL380 G6s we've been buying now support something like 128 GB. > > Drive > 40 GB =3D=20 > > /var =3D 2 GB >=20 > There could be a different requirement, especially when > someone wants to run > =A0=A0=A0 a) an anonymous FTP server (/var/ftp subtree) > =A0=A0=A0 b) database operations (/var/db subtree) > and have the /var sizes grow very fast. Of course, there's no > problem putting databases and FTP stuff somewhere under > /home (which is in /usr in your example). Excellent point.=A0 I was trying to stay away from usage patterns, though, = and just stick with predetermined items like "how much space do I have avai= lable?".=A0 Once you get past that, you have an order of magnitude more thi= ngs to consider, IMO.=A0=20 I think the most commonly increased partition would be /var.=A0 Again, I th= ink something reasonably simple like being able to delete the last partitio= n (we'll assume /home at the moment), then just "resize" /var to be bigger,= let all the intermediary partitions slide "up" and then recreating /home t= o be whats left now would be simple and may work to handle these cases more= cleanly.=20 > > And, as long as this is a wish list, how about... > >=20 > > 1) When I create, I would love to not to *always* have to > > backspace over like 17 digits every time to type something > > short like "16G".=A0 Can we just make it operate in MB or > > something instead of blocks?=20 >=20 > There is an easier approach, I'd call it "overwrite with first > keystroke". This is common for many dialog libraries, such as > in Midnight Commander.=20 That would be stellar.=A0 I hadn't even realized it but so many things (in = all *sorts* of places!) use that method.=A0 A quick glance at the code that= seems to be responsible for the keystroke handling (/usr/src/gnu/lib/libdi= alog/lineedit.c) seems to indicate it's fairly stateless - it doesn't seem = to know things like if the dialog still has the oroginal input values in it= or if you've already typed something.=A0 Also, changes here may affect all= sorts of things (since it's as far from /usr/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/ as y= ou can get, tree-wise). > Maybe Meta-Backspace (Esc, then Backspace) would > be available to erase the whole content of the input field > as you suggested in 1.2. This would be fairly easy to implement, I think.=A0 Unfortunately, I would = feel horrible for implementing something like this when there's so many ser= ious bugs in sysinstall. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?text=3Dsysinstall I wonder if the delete key, when pressed at the end of the input, would do?= =A0 Seems like a magic key, but on the other hand, it also seems pretty inn= ocuous.=A0=20 I'm still thinking that using MB or GB as the default might be easier. > Maybe this is a nice item for a dialog wishlist for > sysinstall. :-) I couldn't agree more.=A0 Does anyone really know what the plans for either= sysinstall or a replacement is?=A0 There's a ton of bugs in it... > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... =0A=0A=0A