From owner-freebsd-hpc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 1 14:24:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4D21065670 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 14:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (m209-73.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.209.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6908FC13 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 14:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oA1E6DgV009370; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:06:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id oA1E6Dc1009369; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:06:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:06:13 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101101140613.GA9364@albert.catwhisker.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Mailing list freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org is being retired X-BeenThere: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: postmaster@freebsd.org List-Id: "FreeBSD in High Performance Computing environments." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 14:24:31 -0000 The mailing list freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org is being retired for lack of activity. If no valid reasons for retaining the list are expressed to by 09 Nov 2010, the list is subject to deactivation at any point on or after 10 Nov 2010. Once that happens, new messages for the list will not be accepted. Archives of the list will remain available, though folks may need to be a bit creative in navigating some of the archives maintained by the FreeBSD project to get to no-longer-current lists. (The easiest way is probably to access archives by date from .) If you have any concerns about this, please express them as clearly as possible to as soon as possible. Please note that Reply-To has been set on this message for your convenience. Peace, david (current hat: postmaster@freebsd.org) -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. From owner-freebsd-hpc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 3 22:30:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875461065670 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 22:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redcrash@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE068FC0C for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 22:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so1223105iwn.13 for ; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:30:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=bHzp0CulWqL3SVdectvnTODvCedaI3WQlxRNPaZoRPs=; b=DWgEoWkeYM31OTSnrxXD9pIoHsDrLYwIC/D7proMkVNw5EyNuyqbEuuI7E7BWeQ0Ul h2jHCjQgMIHI8/9/6Khgm5xbBWd/ZnbdLPrJT9t/KS+PmId8lnZVA+dRL+vvTZkYUhDo 5Z0GYrWPbHSiS5jzJAw+QLNrhKRC8dm7dFsnE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OPeSmNPWlxCdI623Ohse7I6A0PEKNIHOh9f9+KbylYfjvNxXe4kVR70EsUf4b44a3k MQjmEcD0eAdQQgzqOdRQa11bNac+InRq0hWTshmvEuwLxcwNqYiHbCa4MFot2WJVCxRZ y/5UJFYs6SHMy9rGDASy3uIJ6L43ZjN53r0OY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.12.138 with SMTP id y10mr5244498icy.128.1288821933718; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.38.7 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 15:05:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101101140613.GA9364@albert.catwhisker.org> References: <20101101140613.GA9364@albert.catwhisker.org> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 23:05:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: Harald Servat To: postmaster@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailing list freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org is being retired X-BeenThere: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD in High Performance Computing environments." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 22:30:54 -0000 So, which is the list that will refer to hpc? freebsd-performance@, maybe? Thank you. 2010/11/1 David Wolfskill > The mailing list freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org is being retired for lack > of activity. > > If no valid reasons for retaining the list are expressed to > by 09 Nov 2010, the list is subject to > deactivation at any point on or after 10 Nov 2010. > > Once that happens, new messages for the list will not be accepted. > > Archives of the list will remain available, though folks may need > to be a bit creative in navigating some of the archives maintained > by the FreeBSD project to get to no-longer-current lists. (The > easiest way is probably to access archives by date from > .) > > If you have any concerns about this, please express them as clearly > as possible to as soon as possible. Please > note that Reply-To has been set on this message for your convenience. > > Peace, > david (current hat: postmaster@freebsd.org) > -- > David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org > Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. > > See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpgfor my public key. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hpc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hpc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- _________________________________________________________________ Fry: You can see how I lived before I met you. Bender: You lived before you met me?! Fry: Yeah, lots of people did. Bender: Really?! From owner-freebsd-hpc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 4 00:38:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D66A106566B for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 00:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eric_delacruz@yahoo.com) Received: from nm10-vm1.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm10-vm1.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.53.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 366868FC13 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 00:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.52.188] by nm10.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Nov 2010 00:25:37 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.176] by tm1.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Nov 2010 00:25:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1059.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Nov 2010 00:25:37 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 685840.50000.bm@omp1059.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 34483 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Nov 2010 00:25:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1288830337; bh=PAhK/9+0Sd6zfRFbxVP0zwV9PbUDGli6Iv1FsW9rx+U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=x31GkrrbHruZGjpa/wlwN/NrNs8cRqUVbmRXc4yIVAd6cFDXJlWUg7j7Zes2g6WHzWOKTYqvkGDFeq9wpIFXha17G57ug8t5UZ7em2qbL3c1qP7YLcaebQqmGuIz8xFlQaE3GvBlVvtYZLnf3OLDjKcC55kBIWC3P8mLsA2Q+vY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gHQkQjfnC1jHx1OXluzNidT7MjoSO/6vPGM6ZeT+UHtCapFxJhITMJCD0uoE8KJnFZKnX5NU0wLpftB3HFUYowjfAeQTIIQtjqQu60ZkQx9yYcK0AtqXqMtX4ZlQ8Y4Nbf3CxiO3kRrrNyGo3s1rcN/ipPppTcKriQsImZLLw/k=; Message-ID: <567446.33929.qm@web56306.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7XxOV.EVM1nMxsGI1xdo1W8SfmC64iO9JWNAVzn_n_s8Y3O 348VGEaOrRm.CIfsRlpO7DYvSy94EOWcDbjOKydNspzmC3opN7_21B95UEcQ iRnJQmRq6msJ1UqPLnL37QC05dV2dMG6xnEt7uuOF8VKVVNJRrwoGKOJ0JnM aDJQqwrCwc8Hp57i1MMc1NehG8ocpfDh3z4fjXbBSqybJkK5uwtNbYyJ6VOb x058fPzqfN4JGJoOH0BTrRokg7fuctHtGL4hNrFQg.T44vb3cHsoTZGbUQBz nvF7ptdhklkm0cKHvDK84RAxCK6SH0eSzOGcNU.3TzvK5t7SqtQ-- Received: from [187.147.27.201] by web56306.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:25:37 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/504.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.284920 References: <20101101140613.GA9364@albert.catwhisker.org> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 17:25:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric De La Cruz Lugo To: Harald Servat , postmaster@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailing list freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org is being retired X-BeenThere: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD in High Performance Computing environments." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 00:38:11 -0000 Where this HPC topic will be handled? freebsd-performance@?, we should ask to Brook Davis. Thank you. Eric De La Cruz Lugo. ________________________________ From: Harald Servat To: postmaster@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 4:05:33 PM Subject: Re: Mailing list freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org is being retired So, which is the list that will refer to hpc? freebsd-performance@, maybe? Thank you. 2010/11/1 David Wolfskill > The mailing list freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org is being retired for lack > of activity. > > If no valid reasons for retaining the list are expressed to > by 09 Nov 2010, the list is subject to > deactivation at any point on or after 10 Nov 2010. > > Once that happens, new messages for the list will not be accepted. > > Archives of the list will remain available, though folks may need > to be a bit creative in navigating some of the archives maintained > by the FreeBSD project to get to no-longer-current lists. (The > easiest way is probably to access archives by date from > .) > > If you have any concerns about this, please express them as clearly > as possible to as soon as possible. Please > note that Reply-To has been set on this message for your convenience. > > Peace, > david (current hat: postmaster@freebsd.org) > -- > David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org > Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. > > See >http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpgfor > my public key. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hpc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hpc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- _________________________________________________________________ Fry: You can see how I lived before I met you. Bender: You lived before you met me?! Fry: Yeah, lots of people did. Bender: Really?! _______________________________________________ freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hpc To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hpc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hpc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 4 01:19:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F98B106566C; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 01:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (m209-73.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.209.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032108FC16; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 01:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oA41J2mY011234; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id oA41J2i9011233; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:19:02 -0700 From: David Wolfskill To: Eric De La Cruz Lugo Message-ID: <20101104011902.GQ1980@albert.catwhisker.org> References: <20101101140613.GA9364@albert.catwhisker.org> <567446.33929.qm@web56306.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E50aLcSU4JxQSj/B" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <567446.33929.qm@web56306.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: postmaster@freebsd.org, freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailing list freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org is being retired X-BeenThere: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD in High Performance Computing environments." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 01:19:03 -0000 --E50aLcSU4JxQSj/B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 05:25:37PM -0700, Eric De La Cruz Lugo wrote: > Where this HPC topic will be handled? freebsd-performance@?, we should a= sk to=20 > Brook Davis. If you believe that there are topics that warrant discussion that would fit in -hpc@, but not in other lists @freebsd.org, that's an excellent reason to keep -hpc@. Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --E50aLcSU4JxQSj/B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkzSCgUACgkQmprOCmdXAD1cuwCcCCqOq04z01BtWlnkAjYHzvsw 4voAnjK63xEf1yYlC1Jp+ilJ8bmZpSSc =GKaX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E50aLcSU4JxQSj/B-- From owner-freebsd-hpc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 5 14:49:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4E41065672 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 14:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [69.66.77.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB48F8FC08 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 14:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oA5EVEt1073928; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:31:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id oA5EVEJt073927; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:31:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:31:14 -0500 From: Brooks Davis To: Eric De La Cruz Lugo Message-ID: <20101105143113.GA73335@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20101101140613.GA9364@albert.catwhisker.org> <567446.33929.qm@web56306.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <567446.33929.qm@web56306.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:31:14 -0500 (CDT) Cc: postmaster@freebsd.org, freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailing list freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org is being retired X-BeenThere: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD in High Performance Computing environments." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 14:49:06 -0000 --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 05:25:37PM -0700, Eric De La Cruz Lugo wrote: > Where this HPC topic will be handled? freebsd-performance@?, we should > ask to Brook Davis. Most things could be handled on -performance. Other things would be a good fit for -net or -hackers. Over all the list has never had any traffic so while it seemed like a good idea at the time, I don't see any real value in keeping it around. If work and discussion picks up elsewhere to the point that it's off topic or distracting we can alwasy recreate the list. -- Brooks --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFM1BUxXY6L6fI4GtQRAtjAAKDB16Drlt++UibV8N2IMtj/IduPyQCgw080 v8apo1MRpvb5awTzZYdIaMo= =tjZc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- From owner-freebsd-hpc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 5 15:27:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40B4106564A; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 15:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE008FC16; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 15:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1PENxh-00070P-Ef>; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:12:17 +0100 Received: from e178021030.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.21.30] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1PENxh-0006dD-9j>; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:12:17 +0100 Message-ID: <4CD42CE0.6020605@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 17:12:16 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101029 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brooks Davis References: <20101101140613.GA9364@albert.catwhisker.org> <567446.33929.qm@web56306.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20101105143113.GA73335@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> In-Reply-To: <20101105143113.GA73335@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.21.30 Cc: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailing list freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org is being retired X-BeenThere: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD in High Performance Computing environments." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 15:27:33 -0000 On 11/05/10 15:31, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 05:25:37PM -0700, Eric De La Cruz Lugo wrote: >> Where this HPC topic will be handled? freebsd-performance@?, we should >> ask to Brook Davis. > > Most things could be handled on -performance. Other things would be a > good fit for -net or -hackers. Over all the list has never had any > traffic so while it seemed like a good idea at the time, I don't see any > real value in keeping it around. If work and discussion picks up > elsewhere to the point that it's off topic or distracting we can alwasy > recreate the list. > > -- Brooks @performance is a list on which people post when problems or tuning potential issues arise with the OS itself. As I understand 'HPC', this list is more related to the 'performance' used in a scientific manner. We do not have a list tuning, so I would put hings from @performance rather into @tuning. Well, it's hard to express my point of view an this foreign language, so I hope I could make clear what I think. On the other hand, if @HPC is related to a more scientific view of 'performance', then it also can be retired since FreeBSD doe not play any role in scientific computing any more. No HPC compilers, not GPGPU support anywhere. Approximately ten years ago, when my former institute used FreeBSD as a HPC platform, we used NAGs math libraries and compilers natively offered for FreeBSD. With the dawn of the AMD/Intel amd64 architecture FreeBSD got more and more insignificant. Even the lack of 64Bit Linuxulator capabilities and therefore the inability of using Linux compilers and GPGPU software widended this gap. O. Hartmann From owner-freebsd-hpc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 6 13:00:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F0A106564A; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [69.66.77.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159D18FC0A; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oA6CxmXl085394; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 07:59:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id oA6CxmAi085393; Sat, 6 Nov 2010 07:59:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 07:59:48 -0500 From: Brooks Davis To: "O. Hartmann" Message-ID: <20101106125947.GA85107@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20101101140613.GA9364@albert.catwhisker.org> <567446.33929.qm@web56306.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20101105143113.GA73335@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <4CD42CE0.6020605@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4CD42CE0.6020605@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 06 Nov 2010 07:59:48 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Brooks Davis , freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailing list freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org is being retired X-BeenThere: freebsd-hpc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD in High Performance Computing environments." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 13:00:59 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 05:12:16PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > On 11/05/10 15:31, Brooks Davis wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 05:25:37PM -0700, Eric De La Cruz Lugo wrote: >>> Where this HPC topic will be handled? freebsd-performance@?, we should >>> ask to Brook Davis. >>=20 >> Most things could be handled on -performance. Other things would be a >> good fit for -net or -hackers. Over all the list has never had any >> traffic so while it seemed like a good idea at the time, I don't see any >> real value in keeping it around. If work and discussion picks up >> elsewhere to the point that it's off topic or distracting we can alwasy >> recreate the list. >>=20 >> -- Brooks >=20 > @performance is a list on which people post when problems or tuning=20 > potential issues arise with the OS itself. As I understand 'HPC', this li= st=20 > is more related to the 'performance' used in a scientific manner. We do n= ot=20 > have a list tuning, so I would put hings from @performance rather into=20 > @tuning. Well, it's hard to express my point of view an this foreign=20 > language, so I hope I could make clear what I think. >=20 > On the other hand, if @HPC is related to a more scientific view of=20 > 'performance', then it also can be retired since FreeBSD doe not play any= =20 > role in scientific computing any more. No HPC compilers, not GPGPU suppor= t=20 > anywhere. Approximately ten years ago, when my former institute used=20 > FreeBSD as a HPC platform, we used NAGs math libraries and compilers=20 > natively offered for FreeBSD. With the dawn of the AMD/Intel amd64=20 > architecture FreeBSD got more and more insignificant. Even the lack of=20 > 64Bit Linuxulator capabilities and therefore the inability of using Linux= =20 > compilers and GPGPU software widended this gap. A lovely rant with some relevent points, but 100% irrelevent to the fact that this thread is probably the majority of traffic this list has seen. -- Brooks --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFM1VFDXY6L6fI4GtQRAl5BAKC413iY5t0O8NhoD7Rtep1cCDsX6wCgihof GTUbslbZDBsufve4xPYq/Ew= =u2vp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8--