From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 02:45:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2EF106566B for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 02:45:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88FC8FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 02:45:30 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from [17.151.76.180] by asmtp025.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L8Z006SH3NBHM70@asmtp025.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:45:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1009180154 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-09-18_07:2010-09-18, 2010-09-18, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <87pqwar5sc.fsf@oak.localnet> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:45:10 -0700 Message-id: References: <87pqwar5sc.fsf@oak.localnet> To: Carl Johnson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: extra open ports in rkhunter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 02:45:31 -0000 Hi-- On Sep 18, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Carl Johnson wrote: > The following are the ports if anybody has any ideas, but I would also like to know how to trace them down myself: > > tcp4 0 0 *.876 *.* LISTEN > tcp6 0 0 *.921 *.* LISTEN > udp4 0 0 *.608 *.* > udp6 0 0 *.952 *.* > udp6 0 0 *.804 *.* Try: lsof -i tcp:876 ...and so forth for the other ports; this will give you the process ID of whatever is holding that socket. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 03:05:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641511065670 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:05:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swell.k@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278928FC15 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so3804176iwn.13 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:05:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=jVNy4Dr2drxhxXne7HceAm9dKLZFTKx0JulJ15fh9fU=; b=IKwa/kCSOfSNs6AZTG37k+nN5EFLwjysKr7uDmDPSu6aDpX5pWKHbigU+vXVoZTOYL 2sXNdST9rbHvPCYgEvD6X/PXPWK3a3zC30Lxi6iSoEPozC2kEFuwKFMikQ8VNe4NfhWJ fumc5gecHPQGsd5avGAzzr6jwY0r87WImk2S0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=VxxcEF6POMgrqbXUf98cAQqKLaQH1MFLTMQYOQjgzIdaBe9v0NAck7kEpqYf2au0lJ sMXxL4eYV1AVrx5RLlITRpe/wGlD2AV8GX+K2iga9NHP3glN8+ZtaZPhsKeoNQufI1Iu MIMePo0sNR8Dgy3+AtfoSu55tStZdFWlhDUqM= Received: by 10.231.167.196 with SMTP id r4mr7783334iby.29.1284865556748; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tor-exit-proxy1-readme.formlessnetworking.net [208.53.142.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h8sm5633829ibk.9.2010.09.18.20.05.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:05:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Anonymous To: Carl Johnson References: <87pqwar5sc.fsf@oak.localnet> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 07:05:52 +0400 In-Reply-To: (Chuck Swiger's message of "Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:45:10 -0700") Message-ID: <86tylmzb3j.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: extra open ports in rkhunter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:05:58 -0000 Chuck Swiger writes: > Hi-- > > On Sep 18, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Carl Johnson wrote: >> The following are the ports if anybody has any ideas, but I would also like to know how to trace them down myself: >> >> tcp4 0 0 *.876 *.* LISTEN >> tcp6 0 0 *.921 *.* LISTEN >> udp4 0 0 *.608 *.* >> udp6 0 0 *.952 *.* >> udp6 0 0 *.804 *.* Do you have some networking FS enabled (NFS, AFS, Coda, etc)? Perhaps, one of them listens for connections from kernel and is not associated with userland process. But it's just a guess. > > Try: > > lsof -i tcp:876 > > ...and so forth for the other ports; this will give you the process ID of whatever is holding that socket. Speaking of processes, procstat(1) can show them, too. $ procstat -af | (IFS= read hdr && echo $hdr; fgrep UDP) PID COMM FD T V FLAGS REF OFFSET PRO NAME 1023 syslogd 6 s - rw------ 1 0 UDP ::.514 ::.0 1023 syslogd 7 s - rw------ 1 0 UDP 0.0.0.0:514 0.0.0.0:0 1170 nfsuserd 3 s - rw------ 8 0 UDP 0.0.0.0:998 0.0.0.0:0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 03:59:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46891065672 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:59:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor2.peak.org (redcondor2.peak.org [69.59.192.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8A18FC0A for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:59:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from peak-mail-gateway.peak.org ([69.59.192.41]) by redcondor2.peak.org ({e8dac926-1ec8-47e6-b410-31008b345fb7}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20100919035931382 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:59:31 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from oak.localnet (207.55.91.197.peak.org [207.55.91.197] (may be forged)) by peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id o8J3xTSl043506 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C016CC95 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o8J3xTZs020871; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:59:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <87pqwar5sc.fsf@oak.localnet> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:59:29 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Chuck Swiger's message of "Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:45:10 -0700") Message-ID: <87lj6yqt7i.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: extra open ports in rkhunter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:59:49 -0000 Chuck Swiger writes: > Hi-- > > On Sep 18, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Carl Johnson wrote: >> The following are the ports if anybody has any ideas, but I would also like to know how to trace them down myself: >> >> tcp4 0 0 *.876 *.* LISTEN >> tcp6 0 0 *.921 *.* LISTEN >> udp4 0 0 *.608 *.* >> udp6 0 0 *.952 *.* >> udp6 0 0 *.804 *.* > > Try: > > lsof -i tcp:876 > > ...and so forth for the other ports; this will give you the process ID of whatever is holding that socket. lsof -i doesn't show any of those five ports. It seems to show the same ones as sockstat. I should have mentioned previously that I verified the tcp ports were open with nmap, but that wouldn't tell me what they were. I haven't figured out how to even verify the udp ports are connected or open. I also should have mentioned that I don't have any reason to think that my system is infected, but I just wanted to understand the difference. Thanks for the reply. I had completely forgotten about lsof. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 04:38:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE9B106566B for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 04:38:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor2.peak.org (redcondor2.peak.org [69.59.192.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068808FC15 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 04:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from peak-mail-gateway.peak.org ([69.59.192.42]) by redcondor2.peak.org ({e8dac926-1ec8-47e6-b410-31008b345fb7}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20100919043759292 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 04:37:59 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from oak.localnet (207.55.91.197.peak.org [207.55.91.197] (may be forged)) by peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id o8J4btNS085018 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDF8CC95 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o8J4bsJm021078; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:37:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <87pqwar5sc.fsf@oak.localnet> <86tylmzb3j.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:37:54 -0700 In-Reply-To: <86tylmzb3j.fsf@gmail.com> (Anonymous's message of "Sun, 19 Sep 2010 07:05:52 +0400") Message-ID: <87hbhmqrfh.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: extra open ports in rkhunter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 04:38:00 -0000 Anonymous writes: > Chuck Swiger writes: > >> Hi-- >> >> On Sep 18, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Carl Johnson wrote: >>> The following are the ports if anybody has any ideas, but I would also like to know how to trace them down myself: >>> >>> tcp4 0 0 *.876 *.* LISTEN >>> tcp6 0 0 *.921 *.* LISTEN >>> udp4 0 0 *.608 *.* >>> udp6 0 0 *.952 *.* >>> udp6 0 0 *.804 *.* > > Do you have some networking FS enabled (NFS, AFS, Coda, etc)? Perhaps, > one of them listens for connections from kernel and is not associated > with userland process. But it's just a guess. I have NFS enabled, but its processes are accounted for by both sockstat and netstat. > Speaking of processes, procstat(1) can show them, too. Procstat seems to show the same ports as sockstat and doesn't show any of the extra ports that netstat does. Thanks for the reply. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 05:36:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716E5106566C; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BED8FC1C; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:36:17 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAE87lUyWZWdv/2dsb2JhbAAH4n2FQQSETIUA Received: from ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.144]) ([150.101.103.111]) by ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 19 Sep 2010 15:06:14 +0930 From: Wayne Sierke To: Steven Friedrich In-Reply-To: <201009171218.38065.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> References: <201009111442.49114.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <201009151827.04122.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <1284624764.20540.650.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> <201009171218.38065.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:06:12 +0930 Message-ID: <1284874572.20540.1746.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alexander Best , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apropos returning same item twice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:36:18 -0000 On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 12:18 -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote: > On Thursday 16 September 2010 4:12:44 am Wayne Sierke wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:27 -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > > On Wednesday 15 September 2010 12:39:15 pm Wayne Sierke wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 00:37 +0000, Alexander Best wrote: > > > > > On Sat Sep 11 10, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > > > > > Why does apropos list mysql(1) twice? > > > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't return duplicates with apropos kde... > > > > > > > > > > maybe you have a gzip'ed and plain version in /usr ? > > > > > > > > > > see PR #4419. > > > > > > > > > > cheers. > > > > > alex > > > > > > > > Are you certain that /etc/manpath.config doesn't just still > > > > have /usr/X11R6/man configured (as well as /usr/local/man)? Admittedly > > > > the kde issue is a mystery, assuming its manpages are installed > > > > in /usr/local/man. This system has the following: > > > > > > > > OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/man > > > > # (disabled by xorg-libraries port) OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/X11R6/man > > > > > > > > MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man > > > > # (disabled by xorg-libraries port) > > > > MANPATH_MAP /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/X11R6/man > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the whatis file being updated? Check the timestamp: > > > > > > > > # ls -l /usr/local/man/whatis > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 273178 Sep 11 04:22 /usr/local/man/whatis > > > > > > > > > > > > Wayne > > > > > > > > > > admin@laptop2(/dev/pts/1)/usr/home/admin 106% apropos mysql > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > I still have X11R6 in usr symlinked to /usr/local. This was done per > > > entry 20070519 in /usr/ports/UPDATING. > > > > > > Do we still need this symlink? > > > > Yes, anything that references /usr/X11R6 gets directed to /usr/local. > > Well I temporarily removed it and this anomaly disappeared. Perhaps we just > have to suffer until we know the symlink can be removed. I thought it was > going to eventually be removed... > > > > > Did you check /etc/manpath.config and the timestamp > > on /usr/local/man/whatis? > > > grep -v '^#' manpath.config > MANDATORY_MANPATH /usr/share/man > MANDATORY_MANPATH /usr/share/openssl/man > OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/man > MANPATH_MAP /bin /usr/share/man > MANPATH_MAP /usr/bin /usr/share/man > MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man > OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.12.2/man > OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.12.2/perl/man > > > > Another check is that the output of manpath(1) doesn't > > include /usr/X11R6/man. > > > > manpath > /usr/share/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/local/kde4/man:/usr/share/openssl/man:/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.12.2/man:/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.12.2/perl/man Ok. There's also: %man -a -w mysql to see the origins of the multiple man pages, although it seems that you may have already confirmed the /usr/X11R6 path connection. >From what you've presented so far I'd say it's looking like a problem with updating of the "whatis" db files. So to verify whether the weekly periodic "makewhatis" is being run:- - check the timestamp on /usr/local/man/whatis - it shouldn't be more than a week old - check that the "weekly run output" report lists "Rebuilding whatis database:" and that it doesn't list any errors, e.g.: Rebuilding whatis database: -- End of weekly output -- Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 10:48:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3366106566B for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:48:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ruschm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535E18FC0C for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so4789113bwz.13 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:48:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=RuijOTp6pEV9zAO2ZIQ4V2XbYTRzzWKfXjLWzRC4K+w=; b=qb1m6h4Hiy++dfm/41Gbf2BdsPS4axXWVk7bq7AaOFYfP4mHTUkrN1914LrcT2eg+P 2szIxudBTszD5Cdqy0d/8jp1Xcup7oCgszNToQrN1d0769CXKP7TUZdIq0ENV0SuQW/9 09SPsxdyorBrL+5Wq6i9OUH+Vo8692ve+r0EY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=ntp7ixZ9SZe6oWvC+zdx225buY/VDAuRJ+GAznR/Lfnvg9o8U6VnL0QvEcvLFKmp2c xgFGoOSlgR4KqP8jTUw9MdQGkxR7RVKYEXXtR1LSqQcb4L5cI4fm+Yh7hy+xEWbd+2+N Vuzz6rIL4C3cFI8lJfgPGe3ZogzcWO/PCn4tA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.66.79 with SMTP id m15mr5765856bki.82.1284891786801; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.7.138 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 03:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:23:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Michael R. Rusch" To: support@lists.pcbsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Twitter on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:48:54 -0000 In an effort to try any to use twitter on PC-BSD I tried to install the Echofon firefox add on located here: http://www.echofon.com/twitter/firefox I tripped over an error and it wants OAuth installed. I am aware that @twitter just switched to OAuth recently and I am unaware of what port in FreeBSD enables OAuth. Located here is my screen shot of the error message: http://www.puffybsd.com/weeddude/echofon.png I am running PC-BSD 8.1 amd64 and I am using FireFox 3.6.8 (Installed from pbi) Cheerio! Michael -- Thanks, Michael Rusch ruschm@gmail.com twitter - @weeddude From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 11:34:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D352106564A for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:34:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29F98FC0A for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so1362637gxk.13 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 04:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.18.1 with SMTP id v1mr7702857ybi.234.1284896070065; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 04:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-077-039-064.nc.res.rr.com [71.77.39.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q1sm7329571ybk.20.2010.09.19.04.34.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 19 Sep 2010 04:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B8661E54824 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 07:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 07:34:26 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20100919073426.5d7f6bc6@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:34:31 -0000 On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:27:13 +0200 dan articulated: > 2 - HP Photosmart C3180. > Once I installed HPLIP and adjusted some permissions I used a hp sw > tool to update the CUPS printers' database (all with the __default__ > 8.1 kernel). I then Succesfully printed a test page and successfully > tested the device as a scanner (blank scanning of the plate). > > > The "annoying" and computer-time-consuming part was recompiling gtk > and qt with CUPS support, that was not the default when I first > installed everything. > In the end, CUPS was also easy to use to share the 1st printer in our > small and simple network. I used the HPLIP port in conjunction with CUPS to get my home c6180 printer working. The FAX portion sucks, and probably always will. I just FAX from one of my Windows machines when the need arises. The printing thought is adequate. I still have not figured out how to get the CF, XD, etc ports to work with FreeBSD. They do work with Windows, so I know that they are working correctly. Luckily, I rarely utilize them anyway. I was wondering what "hp sw tool to update the CUPS printers' database" you are referring to. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Time and tide wait for no man. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 11:47:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD424106564A; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19F98FC15; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8JBlnD9062570; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:47:49 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:47:48 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: patrick In-Reply-To: <20100918114500.C20F41065761@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20100919194813.J11124@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100918114500.C20F41065761@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1641623713-1284896868=:11124" Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ale@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:47:53 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1641623713-1284896868=:11124 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 3, Issue 9, Message: 21 On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:03:46 -0700 patrick wrote: > I don't for sure, but I'd say it's off by default because not everyone > runs PHP with Apache, and mod_php5/libphp5.so is strictly for Apache. No, not everyone installs PHP to use with Apache, but I guess that maybe half do. This comes up many times in the last 5 or so years since you could last install the module from a package rather than only the port. It's also one of those ports that takes a good while to build on slower hardware (which of course developers don't tend to run :) but no amount of requesting a version with '"Build Apache module" on' helped so far. > Lots of people use PHP with FastCGI or other purposes. True, yet those people probably also tend to be less likely to want to install from packages (when available) anyway. Sure, adding libphp5.so to the (or one different?) package would add maybe 3MB to it. I'd be happy to spend an extra few MB and minutes to save likely an hour. > If you always want it to be on, add the option to /etc/make.conf. Or, > if you're using portupgrade or some other port management utility for > upgrades, there are ways to set the default options for the ports you > use. Not a problem when you have the horsepower and time to build it, but a significant loss of ability to install apache+php from packages, as you once could from the CDs .. guess I just got spoiled back there in the olden days :) > Hindsight is 20/20, but I'll go out on a limb here and say that it's > generally considered good practice to test software after upgrading -- > particularly if it's a web server running websites. Another thing to > consider would be running something like Nagios to monitor your > systems/sites to make sure things are working properly. Aye. > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Gary Kline wrote: [..] > > A couple hours ago my web server was not running.  I traced it to a > > missing libphp5.so.  I checked the makefile and found the php stuff > > defaults to "off". ...I am thinking this is a security risk, but most > > of us are reasonably sophisticated about such things .... > > > > Comments, anybody? Gary, if you install something like MRTG to monitor your servers, you'll have interesting graphs to ponder over breakfast and you'll get to see pretty soon when something comes unstuck. Of course you have to have your Apache chicken working to lay that egg, but it doesn't need PHP. FWIW. I don't expect this policy so long now 'customary' to change, but I'm cc'ing the maintainer (ale@) in case it may help .. I expect not so many people run webservers and such on smaller, older systems either .. cheers, Ian (busy portupgrading from 8.0-R to 8.1-S fetching mostly packages, -aFPP) --0-1641623713-1284896868=:11124-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 13:53:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED33810656AA for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glimp@live.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s6.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s6.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DAE8FC19 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP175 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s6.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 19 Sep 2010 06:53:54 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [151.49.225.136] X-Originating-Email: [glimp@live.com] Message-ID: Received: from genki.collidiamo.net ([151.49.225.136]) by BLU0-SMTP175.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 19 Sep 2010 06:53:52 -0700 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:50:32 +0200 From: dan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100910 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100919073426.5d7f6bc6@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100919073426.5d7f6bc6@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2010 13:53:53.0301 (UTC) FILETIME=[186A9C50:01CB5802] Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:53:55 -0000 On 19.09.2010 13:34, Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:27:13 +0200 > dan articulated: > >> 2 - HP Photosmart C3180. >> Once I installed HPLIP and adjusted some permissions I used a hp sw >> tool to update the CUPS printers' database (all with the __default__ >> 8.1 kernel). I then Succesfully printed a test page and successfully >> tested the device as a scanner (blank scanning of the plate). >> >> >> The "annoying" and computer-time-consuming part was recompiling gtk >> and qt with CUPS support, that was not the default when I first >> installed everything. >> In the end, CUPS was also easy to use to share the 1st printer in our >> small and simple network. > > I used the HPLIP port in conjunction with CUPS to get my home c6180 > printer working. The FAX portion sucks, and probably always will. I > just FAX from one of my Windows machines when the need arises. The > printing thought is adequate. I still have not figured out how to get > the CF, XD, etc ports to work with FreeBSD. They do work with Windows, > so I know that they are working correctly. Luckily, I rarely utilize > them anyway. > > I was wondering what "hp sw tool to update the CUPS printers' database" > you are referring to. > Sorry :-) The statement is obviously a bit ambiguous - if not incorrect. I used "hp-setup" (one of those kde applications included in HPLIP): it tries to discover printers on the usb bus and then a suitable ppd file for the printer one chooses to install. Later, when all the required data are collected it adds the chosen printer in CUPS (like if one selects "Add a printer" in CUPS - Section Administration). There are many hp tools installed under /usr/local/bin - including a device manager that seems to work fine with kde4. This last one is so "in love" with this system that even if it has not been asked to do so every time I start up kde I find it always loaded. For a test SD card that I had and I wanted to read: I turned off the printer, inserted the card and then I turned on the printer (stupid, eh ? :-) ). After these huge efforts ;) I found the card (ready to be mounted) under /dev/msdosfs/ . daniele From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 14:01:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56ABF1065670 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE86A8FC18 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:01:25 -0400 References: Message-Id: From: mikel king To: "Michael R. Rusch" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:01:25 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: support@lists.pcbsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Twitter on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:01:31 -0000 On Sep 19, 2010, at 6:23 AM, Michael R. Rusch wrote: > In an effort to try any to use twitter on PC-BSD I tried to install > the > Echofon firefox add on located here: > > http://www.echofon.com/twitter/firefox > > I tripped over an error and it wants OAuth installed. I am aware that > @twitter just switched to OAuth recently and I am unaware of what > port in > FreeBSD enables OAuth. > > Located here is my screen shot of the error message: > > http://www.puffybsd.com/weeddude/echofon.png > > I am running PC-BSD 8.1 amd64 and I am using FireFox 3.6.8 > (Installed from > pbi) > > Cheerio! > Michael > > > -- > Thanks, > Michael Rusch > ruschm@gmail.com > twitter - @weeddude Michael, OAuth is a protocol built on top of standard http traffic. It's likely that your version of firefox lacks the code necessary to negotiate the various consumer, signer transactions. The operating system has nothing to do with OAuth itself as it occurs completely within the application. Unfortunately I've only worked with it within custom php apps so I can not point you further inside of firefox and the echofon add-on. You could try a few other add-ons like twitbin for instance. According to this site (http://bit.ly/czRpwx) twitfox should work. Regards, Mikel King Senior Editor, BSD News Network Columnist, BSD Magazine 6 Alpine Court, Medford, NY 11763 o: 631.627.3055 http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikelking http://twitter.com/mikelking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 14:57:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E969A106566C for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999A98FC25 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt2 with SMTP id 2so1393663ywt.13 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 07:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.45.14 with SMTP id x14mr1507506ybj.112.1284908225906; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 07:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-077-039-064.nc.res.rr.com [71.77.39.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 36sm2181739ybr.20.2010.09.19.07.57.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 19 Sep 2010 07:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B0CDE54850 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:57:01 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20100919105701.23154ed2@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <20100919073426.5d7f6bc6@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:57:07 -0000 On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:50:32 +0200 dan articulated: > On 19.09.2010 13:34, Jerry wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 23:27:13 +0200 > > dan articulated: > > > >> 2 - HP Photosmart C3180. > >> Once I installed HPLIP and adjusted some permissions I used a hp sw > >> tool to update the CUPS printers' database (all with the > >> __default__ 8.1 kernel). I then Succesfully printed a test page > >> and successfully tested the device as a scanner (blank scanning of > >> the plate). > >> > >> > >> The "annoying" and computer-time-consuming part was recompiling gtk > >> and qt with CUPS support, that was not the default when I first > >> installed everything. > >> In the end, CUPS was also easy to use to share the 1st printer in > >> our small and simple network. > > > > I used the HPLIP port in conjunction with CUPS to get my home c6180 > > printer working. The FAX portion sucks, and probably always will. I > > just FAX from one of my Windows machines when the need arises. The > > printing thought is adequate. I still have not figured out how to > > get the CF, XD, etc ports to work with FreeBSD. They do work with > > Windows, so I know that they are working correctly. Luckily, I > > rarely utilize them anyway. > > > > I was wondering what "hp sw tool to update the CUPS printers' > > database" you are referring to. > > > > Sorry :-) The statement is obviously a bit ambiguous - if not > incorrect. I used "hp-setup" (one of those kde applications included > in HPLIP): it tries to discover printers on the usb bus and then a > suitable ppd file for the printer one chooses to install. Later, when > all the required data are collected it adds the chosen printer in > CUPS (like if one selects "Add a printer" in CUPS - Section > Administration). I am familiar with that. I thought that you had discovered something new. > There are many hp tools installed under /usr/local/bin - including a > device manager that seems to work fine with kde4. This last one is so > "in love" with this system that even if it has not been asked to do > so every time I start up kde I find it always loaded. > > For a test SD card that I had and I wanted to read: I turned off the > printer, inserted the card and then I turned on the printer (stupid, > eh ? :-) ). After these huge efforts ;) I found the card (ready to be > mounted) under /dev/msdosfs/ . Well, I am not about to go through that BS. For the few times that I actually do need that functionality, I will just use my Windows machines. I would file a bug report against this behavior except that I don't have the slightest idea where to file the bug report; i.e., FreeBSD, KDE/Gnome, someone else, all the above? It becomes more than mildly infuriating, although users of Windows do have a nice laugh from time to time. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Hawkeye's Conclusion: It's not easy to play the clown when you've got to run the whole circus. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 18:15:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C09D106566B for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED388FC15 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so3381644qwg.13 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:15:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.34.212 with SMTP id m20mr4961171qad.397.1284918478904; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.98.199 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:47:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.30.183] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 19:47:58 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Chabane HEMDANI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:15:33 -0000 On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Chabane HEMDANI wr= ote: > =A0I'm computer science teacher at university of Tizi-ouzou in Algeria. I= 'm > using FreeBSD since 2007 when I "discover" it by chance when searching in > the Web something about Linux. > =A0Since that date, I always invited and recommended to my students to in= stall > and use this "magical" and my favorite system. > > However, all my students retort me that they have a problem of installing > their printers. I have so this problem, so I can't tell good-bye > definitively to winosor and Linux. I always need them for printing. > > I've search, read, learn, follow instructions about nearly all the > web-documentation about installing a new printer to work under cups witho= ut > any success. I've =A0an HP Laser Jet 1018 printer and tools given by pack= age > print/hplip don't work correctly. > > I'm using FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE > I've rebuild a kernel without =A0ulpt. > I modified my /etc/rc.conf to enable cupsd and hpiod and =A0hpssd. > I modified /etc/devfs.rules like suggested by cups (see pkg_info -D > cups-base-1.4.4 ). > I've made many other configurations like that suggested at > http://diablotins.org/index.php/Imprimer,_hplip > > and finally, I've given to my students the wrong =A0answer that "no one c= an > print under FreeBSD !" Sometimes, permissions can be the problem: http://farid.hajji.name/blog/2010/02/02/printing-woes-on-freebsd-8-with-cup= s/ > Please where is the problem? > Please help me to help others. > Please help me to enlarge the FreeBSD users community. Regards, -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 20:03:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402151065693 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drizzt321@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0DF8FC1C for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so3418492qwg.13 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:03:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=zuYtgDnyStHWiEeXh3qaYcucz36PcsYll1IXJU31940=; b=bv00HNc7D14r3Wdhx3c+VC47xNNlnL/Pcovk7v11u6X6zuEDIszZ6OQh2VnyPEIqxT mKYKtHd9waUzt+UefsuLG3HaUTWjK6kRY1WhriN3rExINbGWqxpVVlOHRDbyM7C7OC0n rc3Z8gztKpwc8UKuY8eUbPtW58JXdrpCc2nYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=JpICXkn5m9KOgO7m0DTkYk+8DuQpnIbX/v7lmwGGWsTJonrcm5NdW+y+Z6mDc/HbsA duJmnVyNGTXHpfYHgxg6ZqD7s/tUgIb+18t6fBJ+t6NT6O2LrQspkKQ510hXNfvmolTR O+ybg+Z1lruLhRxk68vo1u6dO1ImU3Ede/FjA= Received: by 10.229.249.198 with SMTP id ml6mr5415887qcb.117.1284925272227; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:41:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.236.85 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:40:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:40:52 -0700 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Problem running custom startup script at proper time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:03:40 -0000 I'm having trouble getting a custom startup script to run at the proper time. I'm having to use gnop with my new Western Digital WD10EARS (1TB, 4K sector size) because it reports the standard 512 byte to the OS. I'm basing it on http://www.cod3r.com/2010/06/zfs-on-western-digital-ears-drives/ which also says that it needs to be run on each boot so that ZFS will use the .nop devices. So, I've created a custom startup script to automatically do this for me at the proper time (before zfs starts and auto-mounts). I'm having trouble getting it to work properly though. In services -r, it is listed before the zfs startup script, but in dmesg the gnop messages come after the zfs startup messages. Below is excerpts from services -r, dmesg, and the startup script in its entirety. EXCERPT FROM services -r /etc/rc.d/hostid_save /etc/rc.d/mdconfig /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal /etc/rc.d/gnop /etc/rc.d/zfs /etc/rc.d/FILESYSTEMS /etc/rc.d/var /etc/rc.d/cleanvar EXCERPT FROM dmesg Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a ZFS NOTICE: Prefetch is disabled by default if less than 4GB of RAM is present; to enable, add "vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=0" to /boot/loader.conf. ZFS filesystem version 3 ZFS storage pool version 14 GEOM_NOP: Device ad6.nop created. GEOM_NOP: Device ad8.nop created. GEOM_NOP: Device ad10.nop created. GEOM_NOP: Device ad12.nop created. STARTUP SCRIPT, /etc/rc.d/gnop #!/bin/sh # # PROVIDE: gnop # REQUIRE: mdconfig . /etc/rc.subr name="gnop" start_cmd="gnop_start" gnop_start() { for i in ad6 ad8 ad10 ad12; do gnop create -S 4096 $i; done } load_rc_config $name run_rc_command "$1" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 20:27:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80A8106564A for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7706C8FC13 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:27:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [94.233.244.11] (helo=alya) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1OxQU0-000A9c-21; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:27:32 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov To: Aaron References: Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:27:30 +0400 In-Reply-To: (Aaron's message of "Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:40:52 -0700") Message-ID: <03936477@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem running custom startup script at proper time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:27:33 -0000 On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:40:52 -0700 Aaron wrote: > # PROVIDE: gnop What if you try "PROVIDE: disks" instead? -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 21:39:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67279106566B for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:39:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drizzt321@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180418FC14 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:39:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so4249762qyk.13 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:39:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dPqcZhAIWeOk7u65yUF7LkzujltCjQf6M75l6IcjxhQ=; b=eWX/csTEKgS/t6bAz4mwnlc4LqwiKaxhaZPFIhe9P6r1PTp7ZX86IW35poBuW1hOKd DlAVJIct+CYD8z/I4CmdBoO8Uvu1OZgVwoYP/iQbtwHQ7JFcnUK8S1nOAwWQwRLLDv8v uxCo1/i7eWru/VjMVrEZstSMSitCEiSXt44ZY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ervTw/XbsQEJTbdItq2p7sR+wMnY08sTqhVOtkvgvTHvV2aV1ljFDvQxSFTaDBAtOL CEYi0hZQkav/Jvr+Wq1FfYlaUsQ7DQXGPubGXDJbi5tbYO8ioTYpEYUgkJsGJFD5RHNK vmGGfaS2lw2Vm3gQaiQJiEs34ARpU+t/28VR0= Received: by 10.229.223.198 with SMTP id il6mr5683893qcb.50.1284932369190; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:39:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.236.85 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:39:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <37854271@ipt.ru> References: <03936477@ipt.ru> <37854271@ipt.ru> From: Aaron Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:39:08 -0700 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Problem running custom startup script at proper time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:39:30 -0000 Doh! Forgot to reply to the mailing list. Nope, that didn't work either. Darn. Maybe I'll just have to modify the /etc/rc.d/zfs script to run the for loop first :( On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 14:04, Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:55:41 -0700 Aaron wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 13:27, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> > On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:40:52 -0700 Aaron wrote: >> > >> >> # PROVIDE: gnop >> > >> > What if you try "PROVIDE: disks" instead? > >> No good. I also tried the following in the gnop script: > >> # PROVIDE: gnop >> # REQUIRE: mountcritlocal >> # BEFORE: zfs > > /etc/rc.d/geli has this: > ----- > # PROVIDE: disks > # REQUIRE: initrandom > # KEYWORD: nojail > ----- > > Seems that that should work for you. If not I'm out of ideas > for now. > >> The services -r looks promising, but the dmesg is still the same :( >> =A0When I disable zfs auto-mount, and then run it manually after boot, >> it uses the .nop devices that were created correctly as it should. > >> EXCERPT services -r >> /etc/rc.d/mdconfig >> /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal >> /etc/rc.d/gnop >> /etc/rc.d/zfs > > -- > WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) > Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP > FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 21:42:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57A91065670 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:42:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor2.peak.org (redcondor2.peak.org [69.59.192.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBEE8FC14 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from peak-mail-gateway.peak.org ([69.59.192.41]) by redcondor2.peak.org ({e8dac926-1ec8-47e6-b410-31008b345fb7}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20100919214214986 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:42:14 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from oak.localnet (207.55.91.197.peak.org [207.55.91.197] (may be forged)) by peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id o8JLgESl031024 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id C852DCCC9 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o8JLgDxE032958; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:42:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <87pqwar5sc.fsf@oak.localnet> <86tylmzb3j.fsf@gmail.com> <87hbhmqrfh.fsf@oak.localnet> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:42:13 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87hbhmqrfh.fsf@oak.localnet> (Carl Johnson's message of "Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:37:54 -0700") Message-ID: <87zkvdpg0a.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: extra open ports in rkhunter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:42:16 -0000 Carl Johnson writes: > Anonymous writes: >> Do you have some networking FS enabled (NFS, AFS, Coda, etc)? Perhaps, >> one of them listens for connections from kernel and is not associated >> with userland process. But it's just a guess. > > I have NFS enabled, but its processes are accounted for by both sockstat > and netstat. I decided to check out your idea anyways today, and it appears you were right. I disabled and stopped all NFS and rpc processes and those extra ports disappeared from the netstat listing. None of those ports are listed as related to anything, so I don't know what is going on. I had just experimented with NFS for a while, so I will just leave it off. Thanks for your suggestion. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 22:09:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13591106566C for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goran.lowkrantz@ismobile.com) Received: from mail.ismobile.com (mail.ismobile.com [62.119.44.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CB58FC0C for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ismobile.com (mail.ismobile.com [62.119.44.68]) by dkim.mail.arcticgroup.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE48E1D632; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:50:31 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=ismobile.com; h=date:from :to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=selector1; bh=g5Mc4Mv poUhKgxJ6Pr1/O1rjjN8=; b=EHcqRrgFj/GTT0HlnFzx6ZaauLTdxKpnpHXQxnq YHk9J8Vy0V+FpjtoSBZJ6fsE5zpF6zvpdrNRrJTmUKXN5vdWyZhGckzblpByPsno YfKNE5v8uHqnHs0pa63W+b1I5vCL3O91b8cj5t13BB0/PwJLgj7QOI8q4WcFqsHb spiY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=ismobile.com; h=date:from:to :subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=selector1; b=g FvROpvsPNg5e/HGY/fLqwQeLeQSgtudkjTPYUw6cOv4CmEJ6e17NIdM4Fykevna/ YfAW3pRH/Jio35bi3+fZl0727pJQdbhvxL+jbdeqoxeK6zJD/+KQQMiYcAUOnbI0 borKMZ1K9bngNW4omqNfhJ1ysnkZCcc/MOMePZBKdc= Received: from [10.255.253.2] (modgunn.iii-norr.com [213.242.135.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.ismobile.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 963491D615; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:50:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:50:30 +0200 From: Goran Lowkrantz To: Aaron , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <949C4B7C7E60C84BD1AFEBA7@[10.255.253.2]> In-Reply-To: References: <03936477@ipt.ru> <37854271@ipt.ru> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Problem running custom startup script at proper time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:09:12 -0000 --On Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:39 PM -0700 Aaron =20 wrote: > Doh! Forgot to reply to the mailing list. > > > Nope, that didn't work either. Darn. Maybe I'll just have to modify > the /etc/rc.d/zfs script to run the for loop first :( Do you load zfs.ko in loader.conf? I have built a few NAS systems on=20 NanoBSD and found that I had to wait loading zfs until I had go the cache=20 file copied from backup storage as I am using the diskless setup. Could it be that you need to run your script before loading zfs.ko? Cheers, G=C3=B6ran > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 14:04, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:55:41 -0700 Aaron wrote: >>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 13:27, Boris Samorodov wrote: >>> > On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:40:52 -0700 Aaron wrote: >>> > >>> >> # PROVIDE: gnop >>> > >>> > What if you try "PROVIDE: disks" instead? >> >>> No good. I also tried the following in the gnop script: >> >>> # PROVIDE: gnop >>> # REQUIRE: mountcritlocal >>> # BEFORE: zfs >> >> /etc/rc.d/geli has this: >> ----- >> # PROVIDE: disks >> # REQUIRE: initrandom >> # KEYWORD: nojail >> ----- >> >> Seems that that should work for you. If not I'm out of ideas >> for now. >> >>> The services -r looks promising, but the dmesg is still the same :( >>> =C2=A0When I disable zfs auto-mount, and then run it manually after = boot, >>> it uses the .nop devices that were created correctly as it should. >> >>> EXCERPT services -r >>> /etc/rc.d/mdconfig >>> /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal >>> /etc/rc.d/gnop >>> /etc/rc.d/zfs >> >> -- >> WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) >> Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP >> FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 22:15:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606ED106564A for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from siefke_listen@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5428FC08 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp01.web.de ( [172.20.0.243]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B821692D98A for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:15:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [194.77.0.23] (helo=[192.168.0.20]) by smtp01.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.110 #4) id 1OxSAv-0004Oq-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:15:57 +0200 Message-ID: <4C968BB4.7060604@web.de> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:16:20 +0200 From: Silvio Siefke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: siefke_listen@web.de X-Sender: siefke_listen@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19xXDAwHShm4kd1vb/FW7jyEujTeUXfQ90T0v4j owrHivPQ9s5AX71CqATz+fpphWZJEjv1ZITGiQPQfko5YSffzX 9czpTBzbBXQMKCwean0g== Subject: Maia Mailguard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:15:59 -0000 Hello, i want use Maia Mailguard as Spam/Virus System. I have it install over the ports, the normal configuration was good. The Mail System is running. The webinterface make problems. Maia does not accept the Pear installation. # pkg_version -v | grep pear pear-1.9.1 = up-to-date with port The configtest in the webinterface: http://silviosiefke.de/1.png # pear list Installed packages, channel pear.php.net: ========================================= Package Version State Archive_Tar 1.3.7 stable Auth_SASL 1.0.4 stable Console_Getopt 1.2.3 stable DB 1.7.13 stable Image_Canvas 0.3.2 alpha Image_Color 1.0.4 stable Image_Graph 0.7.2 alpha Log 1.12.2 stable MDB2 2.5.0b3 beta MDB2_Driver_mysql 1.5.0b3 beta Mail 1.2.0 stable Mail_Mime 1.8.0 stable Math_BigInteger 1.0.0 stable Net_IMAP 1.1.0 stable Net_POP3 1.3.7 stable Net_SMTP 1.4.2 stable Net_Socket 1.0.9 stable Numbers_Roman 1.0.2 stable Numbers_Words 0.16.2 beta PEAR 1.9.1 stable Pager 2.4.8 stable Structures_Graph 1.0.3 stable # pear config-show Configuration (channel pear.php.net): ===================================== Auto-discover new Channels auto_discover Default Channel default_channel pear.php.net HTTP Proxy Server Address http_proxy PEAR server [DEPRECATED] master_server pear.php.net Default Channel Mirror preferred_mirror pear.php.net Remote Configuration File remote_config PEAR executables directory bin_dir /usr/local/bin PEAR documentation directory doc_dir /usr/local/share/doc/pear PHP extension directory ext_dir /usr/local/lib/php/20090626 PEAR directory php_dir /usr/local/share/pear PEAR Installer cache directory cache_dir /tmp/pear/cache PEAR configuration file cfg_dir /usr/local/lib/php/pear/cfg directory PEAR data directory data_dir /usr/local/share/pear/data PEAR Installer download download_dir /tmp/pear/download directory PHP CLI/CGI binary php_bin /usr/local/bin/php php.ini location php_ini /usr/local/etc/php.ini --program-prefix passed to php_prefix PHP's ./configure --program-suffix passed to php_suffix PHP's ./configure PEAR Installer temp directory temp_dir /tmp/go-pear PEAR test directory test_dir /usr/local/share/pear/tests PEAR www files directory www_dir /usr/local/lib/php/pear/www Cache TimeToLive cache_ttl 3600 Preferred Package State preferred_state stable Unix file mask umask 22 Debug Log Level verbose 1 PEAR password (for password maintainers) Signature Handling Program sig_bin /usr/local/bin/gpg Signature Key Directory sig_keydir /usr/local/etc/pearkeys Signature Key Id sig_keyid Package Signature Type sig_type gpg PEAR username (for username maintainers) User Configuration File Filename /root/.pearrc System Configuration File Filename /usr/local/etc/pear.conf The php.ini is under the adress http://silviosiefke.de/php.txt. Installed: FreeBSD 8.1, Apache 2.2.16, PHP 5.3.3, Pear 1.9.1, Smarty 2.6.26 Has someone a idea? Thank u for support. Regards Silvio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 23:29:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4794106566B; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:29:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0428FC16; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws2 with SMTP id 2so1656305vws.13 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:29:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.128.200 with SMTP id l8mr4027068vcs.33.1284938942399; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.188.3 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:29:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [71.1.133.114] In-Reply-To: <20100919194813.J11124@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100918114500.C20F41065761@hub.freebsd.org> <20100919194813.J11124@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:29:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: patrick , Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ale@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:29:04 -0000 On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 04:47, Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 3, Issue 9, Message: 21 > On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:03:46 -0700 patrick wrote: > > =A0> I don't for sure, but I'd say it's off by default because not everyo= ne > =A0> runs PHP with Apache, and mod_php5/libphp5.so is strictly for Apache= . > > No, not everyone installs PHP to use with Apache, but I guess that maybe > half do. =A0This comes up many times in the last 5 or so years since you > could last install the module from a package rather than only the port. > > It's also one of those ports that takes a good while to build on slower > hardware (which of course developers don't tend to run :) but no amount > of requesting a version with '"Build Apache module" on' helped so far. > > =A0> Lots of people use PHP with FastCGI or other purposes. > > True, yet those people probably also tend to be less likely to want to > install from packages (when available) anyway. =A0Sure, adding libphp5.so > to the (or one different?) package would add maybe 3MB to it. =A0I'd be > happy to spend an extra few MB and minutes to save likely an hour. > > =A0> If you always want it to be on, add the option to /etc/make.conf. Or= , > =A0> if you're using portupgrade or some other port management utility fo= r > =A0> upgrades, there are ways to set the default options for the ports yo= u > =A0> use. > > Not a problem when you have the horsepower and time to build it, but a > significant loss of ability to install apache+php from packages, as you > once could from the CDs .. guess I just got spoiled back there in the > olden days :) Adding a slave port would probably be a good solution and shouldn't be too difficult. --=20 Rob Farmer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 06:08:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A201106566B for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 06:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A060A8FC23 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 06:08:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 14372001 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:08:12 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8K68BY0010219 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:08:12 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8K68Bnh010218 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:08:11 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru using -f Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:08:11 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100920060811.GA10084@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: apache22 and threads X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 06:08:15 -0000 Colleagues, When building apache22 from ports, would you recommend to enable or to disable threads support? Even more confusing is the fact that for ports/www/apache22 the default is: "Enable threads support in APR is off" (WITHOUT_THREADS=true) while for ports/devel/apr1 the default is: "Enable Threads in apr is on" (WITH_THREADS=true). Thank you in advance for any input. PS ports/devel/apr1 will also be used for the subversion client. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 07:17:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E7E106566B for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:17:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.olyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333288FC0A for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:17:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so2721316qyk.13 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:17:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JVst3dfS1Y1FbBxkSLSN52y8CrkVkKa/62s+PUfJVnY=; b=lOiQCg3VcQBV+6QW7Thd4eXItenngKT4/kokW/CkIAsPtTPuvEqoWlt5cnhuajXwpA eFAmDkeWmI9SccY4Pl4OEg0Ror6gcyC6Q/kZCOwETj4vJjuUbimWg+E9YAdyFWPuq9kE e26XMN/IJgd+PMCOqtHNAbhn1byn3+bOED95w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=t38gSRqiosPRgDvX4DmbsYZsUu7lqwhULS+bUXQzQY9QfSvX5UZSNOPm74RKtX+K+t Flx9MnkJVuI6yzU2r5PVj46s8E9Hjm5uYMZSJYveo8TIFICcXpDjgVVIrdCoK8cL3Oxo pzVa7DyIgMkj1VPwBGBL0X5hOdg8epp1wyo+c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.233.195 with SMTP id jz3mr5696980qcb.207.1284967074427; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.239.136 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 00:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 03:17:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: Henry Olyer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Unable to find device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:17:55 -0000 Not that I blame the people behind FBSD. I am amazed that it's so robust. But of course, since I purchased this ASPIRE laptop (model 7741Z,) for FreeBSD I'd like to run that on it. So far, well, maybe Billy Gates has finally gotten his memory back, maybe he'll finally make something that works. This is what I know, I run the FBSD install program and immediately, as soon as the system attempts to do the necessary partitioning. That's when the failure occurs, with the complaint that: Unable to find device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev I've tried a few things, I can put OpenBSD up, works fine -- except as good as that system is, I need to run FBSD. I do development and research and everything I've done for the last decade is done under FBSD. So I guess I am really serious here, HELP. Oh, one more thing. I can install PC-BSD, that works. And I actually like that system, I just don't want all that overhead, it's pretty resource intensive. I just want my FreeBSD. The thing is, am I going to get it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 07:29:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055FC106566B; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:29:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugene@imedia.ru) Received: from lynx.imedia.ru (lynx.imedia.ru [83.242.167.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518EF8FC0C; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:29:47 +0000 (UTC) X-All-Recipients: Received: from badger.imedia.ru (root@badger.imedia.ru [10.167.1.243]) by lynx.imedia.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/TWINS7_LDAP) with ESMTP id o8K7DQEc094535; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:13:26 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from eugene@imedia.ru) Received: from badger.imedia.ru (eugene@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by badger.imedia.ru (8.14.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o8K7DQ9s077565; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:13:26 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from eugene@imedia.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by badger.imedia.ru (8.14.3/8.13.8/Submit) id o8K7DO5I077564; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:13:24 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from eugene@imedia.ru) From: Eugene Mitrofanov Organization: Independent Media Sanoma Magazines To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:13:23 +0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 X-Origin: badger.imedia.ru MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201009201113.24220.eugene@imedia.ru> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (lynx.imedia.ru [10.167.0.252]); Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:13:26 +0400 (MSD) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2-exp at lynx.imedia.ru X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: vlan + ng_ipfw + ng_netflow == no success X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eugene Mitrofanov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:29:49 -0000 Hello I need the advise. Does anybody got the Subj working? I have FreeBSD 7.3-p2, Generic kernel. I try to set up the netflow traffic accounting using ng_ipfw from vlan interface. I created vlan interface, ipfw rule, set up ng hooks but the netflow export is not working. tcpdump does not catch any packets to the collector. Any suggestion? Should I create the bug report? - - - - - - - - # ifconfig vlan1 create vlan 1 vlandev fxp0 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 # ipfw add 10 ngtee 1 via vlan1 # ngctl -f - < - - - - - - - Good luck -- EMIT-RIPN, EVM7-RIPE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 08:12:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086011065670 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:12:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ale@FreeBSD.org) Received: from andxor.it (relay.andxor.it [195.223.2.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 386EC8FC19 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:12:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22028 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2010 07:45:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ale.andxor.it) (192.168.2.5) by andxor.it with SMTP; 20 Sep 2010 07:45:54 -0000 Message-ID: <4C971132.7060809@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:45:54 +0200 From: Alex Dupre User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090624) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Farmer References: <20100918114500.C20F41065761@hub.freebsd.org> <20100919194813.J11124@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: patrick , Gary Kline , Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:12:39 -0000 Rob Farmer ha scritto: > Adding a slave port would probably be a good solution and shouldn't be > too difficult. This "issue" has been discussed too many times. The answer is simply "no", but you can search the archives for the actual reason. You have to comile the module for your specific apache installation. -- Alex Dupre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 08:15:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81E61065672 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glimp@live.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s21.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s21.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8A98FC0C for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:15:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP158 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 20 Sep 2010 01:15:48 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [151.49.233.243] X-Originating-Email: [glimp@live.com] Message-ID: Received: from genki.collidiamo.net ([151.49.233.243]) by BLU0-SMTP158.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 20 Sep 2010 01:15:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:12:17 +0200 From: dan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100910 Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2010 08:15:47.0831 (UTC) FILETIME=[07BF4870:01CB589C] Subject: Re: Unable to find device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:15:49 -0000 On 20.09.2010 09:17, Henry Olyer wrote: > Not that I blame the people behind FBSD. I am amazed that it's so robust. > But of course, since I purchased this ASPIRE laptop (model 7741Z,) for > FreeBSD I'd like to run that on it. So far, well, maybe Billy Gates has > finally gotten his memory back, maybe he'll finally make something that > works. > > This is what I know, I run the FBSD install program and immediately, as soon > as the system attempts to do the necessary partitioning. That's when the > failure occurs, with the complaint that: > > Unable to find device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev > > I've tried a few things, I can put OpenBSD up, works fine -- except as good > as that system is, I need to run FBSD. I do development and research and > everything I've done for the last decade is done under FBSD. > > So I guess I am really serious here, HELP. > > Oh, one more thing. I can install PC-BSD, that works. And I actually like > that system, I just don't want all that overhead, it's pretty resource > intensive. > > I just want my FreeBSD. The thing is, am I going to get it? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Hi, any hints from the following posts ? http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5288 http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2005-02/2448.html d From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 08:34:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D600A106566B; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0BC8FC0C; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8K8YDDl036348; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:34:14 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:34:13 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Alex Dupre In-Reply-To: <4C971132.7060809@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20100920183311.N11124@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100918114500.C20F41065761@hub.freebsd.org> <20100919194813.J11124@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4C971132.7060809@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: patrick , Rob Farmer , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Gary Kline Subject: Re: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:34:16 -0000 On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, Alex Dupre wrote: > Rob Farmer ha scritto: > > Adding a slave port would probably be a good solution and shouldn't be > > too difficult. > > This "issue" has been discussed too many times. The answer is simply > "no", but you can search the archives for the actual reason. You have to > comile the module for your specific apache installation. Ok Alex, and thanks for all your good work. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 09:23:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FFD106566C; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B6D8FC08; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws2 with SMTP id 2so1979541vws.13 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 02:23:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.158.73 with SMTP id e9mr4306117vcx.200.1284974628810; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 02:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.188.3 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 02:23:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [71.1.133.114] In-Reply-To: <4C971132.7060809@FreeBSD.org> References: <20100918114500.C20F41065761@hub.freebsd.org> <20100919194813.J11124@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4C971132.7060809@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 02:23:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: Alex Dupre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: patrick , Gary Kline , Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:23:50 -0000 On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 00:45, Alex Dupre wrote: > This "issue" has been discussed too many times. The answer is simply > "no", but you can search the archives for the actual reason. You have to > comile the module for your specific apache installation. > > -- > Alex Dupre > If you can't be bothered to give the "actual reason," then why even reply? I have searched the archives. Unfortunately, there are so many messages revolving around how to set up php, secure it, etc. that it becomes difficult to find anything relevant. The only thing I came across was a thread from 2007 about how this is "more like a personal preference than engineering as such"[1] and "its just one of those things that you learn to live with after a while."[2] [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-June/151399.html [2] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-June/151384.html -- Rob Farmer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 10:59:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF31106566C for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@vizion2000.net) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [62.49.197.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C4D8FC20 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dns1.vizion2000.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4CD0334D447; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:58:39 +0100 (BST) From: David Southwell Organization: Voice & Vision To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:58:38 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/7.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.5.1; amd64; ; ) X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201009201158.39179.david@vizion2000.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: TCP Logs Why "Connection attempt to closed port" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:59:06 -0000 Large quantities of these errors constantly appear in log/dmesg.today. Can anyone explain what is going on and whether any action is needed. If so how to go about tracing the cause. Thanks in advance for any guidance David TCP: [::1]:61570 to [::1]:4713 tcpflags 0x2; tcp_input: Connection attempt to closed port TCP: [127.0.0.1]:62307 to [127.0.0.1]:4713 tcpflags 0x2; tcp_input: Connection attempt to closed port Photographic Artist Permanent Installations & Design Creative Imagery and Advanced Digital Techniques High Dynamic Range Photography & Official Portraiture Combined darkroom & digital creations & Systems Adminstrator for the vizion2000.net network From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 12:13:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54991065697 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C9D8FC18 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o8KCDAEP083975 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:13:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o8KCDAG3083974; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA02073; Mon, 20 Sep 10 05:10:41 PDT Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:20:52 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: FreeBSD@insightbb.com Message-Id: <4c9751a4.POuJNkjk++rGHEd0%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20100918141525.c7564d66.freebsd@edvax.de> <4c9538b5.IAmh0DDtGtrjQEr2%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <201009181905.01254.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> In-Reply-To: <201009181905.01254.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:13:11 -0000 Steven Friedrich wrote: > > "Common Unix Printing System" certainly sounds as if the intent > > was to be the "ONE thing that is used for printing". Whether > > they did a good job of it is another question entirely :( > > I think that you don't fully apreciate the task at hand. When > Unix was first invented, there were no laser printers, ink jets, > USB, etc. > > That no one can create a one-size fits all solution OWES to the > fact it's simply not always possible to unify disparate designs. > They weren't designed to be interoperable. Technology keeps > marchng forward. We need to discard all of it eventually. Back in the CP/M and early MS-DOS days, similar doubts were raised regarding display systems. Fortunately, those doubts did not stop some developers from doing what others thought impossible. The results included X11, which has been rather durable for a considerable time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 12:17:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61CA1065675 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E028FC1B for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxfJK-0004PI-64 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:17:30 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.86.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:17:30 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:17:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:19:37 -0400 Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: <20100920060811.GA10084@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: apache22 and threads X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:17:32 -0000 Victor Sudakov wrote: > Colleagues, > > When building apache22 from ports, would you recommend to enable or to > disable threads support? > > Even more confusing is the fact that for ports/www/apache22 the default > is: "Enable threads support in APR is off" (WITHOUT_THREADS=true) > > while for ports/devel/apr1 the default is: > "Enable Threads in apr is on" (WITH_THREADS=true). > > Thank you in advance for any input. > > PS ports/devel/apr1 will also be used for the subversion client. > I wouldn't mind someone with more apache22-fu to elaborate, correcting the following if necessary. My thoughts are this matters depending upon which mpm you choose to build into apache. The default is prefork, and it handles incoming requests by spawning child processes. The main shortcoming associated with this approach is resources such as database connections are not shareable between the child processes, e.g. each must have its own. So each incoming request has to fork a child, then build up, consume, and tear down the database connection. The lifetime will exist during the keepalive period and just be sitting there in memory idle most of the time following the task completion. A threaded mpm such as worker or event, is designed to spawn threads within a process to service incoming requests. One is a hybrid, in that it also forks additional processes as well when a preset thread count is reached. When all threads are contained within the same process each thread is able to share and consume resources in a pool amongst other threads. So an idle database connection which has finished serving a previous request can be immediately reused by a new thread without a build up tear down cycle. So my idea of the usage of WITH_THREADS is for the default prefork mpm it would be "NO", while for the event mpm it would be "YES". An additional consideration might be what kind of backend is used. For example, since not all of PHP is known to be thread safe it is not recommended for use with a threaded server and mod_php. The way to get around this situation is to separate PHP from Apache with something like mod_fcgid which runs PHP as a FastCGI. This way you can safely run a threaded Apache with non-thread safe PHP. As far as which is the better approach I still am not really sure. Each has its set of pros and cons. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 12:57:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A20106566C for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faust64@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9397D8FC14 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so4758460qyk.13 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:57:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=glfAdJiQ5uPvl7P37ROeXOtZcyi09ksFtAIEwAKU50M=; b=JoTVpYTtUjJ0PW1XGN1+Ec2Sy0FEiLp/fNU159l3PyTAEQE7MExFYtq4AbUCzepsYp FyPZWKxD1k5d01s8kS9mUJW/pBMcj2CUXuzcQg9pGPfPZyTyvgxDu83LJajwC44lN5y6 oreITdDg64xfb4M2g8Xgew91ygsFFDozOWOmI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=A4lPEB1VunbkMyHgVbqIgFj0PEld60Vi6EFtClOmBmhJLgI8br/vgBkz7iDflwNfn+ bTmnFzYkPSrw5IVLORdfWwKXcTdiWaM7B+Db71Cm9ZtYRrQT1iyCPqIjd3XkcdQdOdih swFHWuM9VEnTh+wW9dhZbDPCP96D6Cp3Dba/E= Received: by 10.224.28.139 with SMTP id m11mr5747174qac.347.1284987425191; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:57:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.187.212 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:56:35 -0700 (PDT) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Mart=EDn_Moro?= Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:56:35 +0200 Message-ID: To: dnsmasq-discuss@lists.thekelleys.org.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: dnsmasq, mfsBSD, status refused X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:57:10 -0000 Hi I'm trying to replace my gate with a qnap ts-509. I installed mfsBSD, based on FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE amd64. I just had to build some pre-configured packages, add ipfw, ipfw_nat and libalias to boot modules. Everything's working just fine, except for the DNS (dnsmasq-2.55,1.tbz, rebuilt with config files and ipfw startup script) DHCP works perfectly. But DNS does not... Even on the (soon-to-be) gateway, so I'm assuming ipfw is not related to th= e problem (in doubt, I still send it) root@phi /real/tmp : ipfw list 00001 check-state 00002 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00003 allow tcp from any to any established 00500 allow ip from any to any via bge1 00666 allow tcp from me to any out via bge0 setup uid root keep-state 65535 deny ip from any to any (since bge0 is not plugged, it's quite empty...) root@phi /real/tmp : ./dig @localhost alpha.faust-network ; <<>> DiG 9.6.2-P2 <<>> alpha.faust-network ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 13068 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;alpha.faust-network. IN A ;; Query time: 13 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) ;; WHEN: Mon Sep 20 13:41:15 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 37 basically, my configuration is the following: cache-size=3D1024 local-ttl=3D15 log-dhcp interface=3Dbge1 bind-interfaces no-negcache dhcp-range=3D10.254.254.1,10.254.254.254,255.0.0.0,1h dhcp-boot=3Dpxelinux.0,omega,10.42.42.45 # PXE TFTP server (omega) dhcp-option=3D3,10.242.42.254 # gateway dhcp-option=3D19,1 # option ip-forwarding of= f dhcp-option=3D23,42 # TTL de 42 dhcp-option=3D44,10.242.42.254 # Wins Server dhcp-option=3D45,10.242.42.254 # NetBios DDS dhcp-option=3D46,8 # NetBios Node Type dhcp-option=3Doption:ntp-server,213.186.41.134,88.191.79.242,193.55.167.2,8= 0.65.235.4,194.57.191.1,91.121.45.45 dhcp-script=3D/usr/local/bin/dhcp_action domain=3Dfaust-network expand-hosts bogus-nxdomain=3D64.94.110.11 #get SSL certificate from another CAServe= r localmx selfmx conf-file=3D/usr/local/etc/blocklist.conf # filter adds, shits, facebook, .= .. my resolv.conf: nameserver 10.242.42.254 #localhost, priv addr nameserver 8.8.4.4 domain faust-network I already have a dnsmasq working perfectly on my current gate (ArchLinux-x86_64). I copied the configuration, making a few changes (192.168.0.0/24 -> 10.0.0.0/8). So, I don't understant what I'm doing wrong.... Any idea? Cheers, --- Samuel Mart=EDn Moro {EPITECH.} tek5 CamTrace S.A.S From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 14:21:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 911F41065670 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:21:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg1-0-0-cust385.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com [82.21.105.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF5F8FC18 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OxhFU-0008Ct-6k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:21:40 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:21:40 +0100 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100920142140.GA12913@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201009201158.39179.david@vizion2000.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201009201158.39179.david@vizion2000.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE amd64 Sender: Daniel Bye Subject: Re: TCP Logs Why "Connection attempt to closed port" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:21:41 -0000 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:58:38AM +0100, David Southwell wrote: >=20 > Large quantities of these errors constantly appear in log/dmesg.today. >=20 > Can anyone explain what is going on and whether any action is needed. If = so=20 > how to go about tracing the cause. I think you probably have the net.inet.tcp.log_in_vain sysctl set to something other than 0, causing the kernel to log these connection attempts on ports where no service is listening. It is probably nothing to worry about. If you want to turn these warnings off, check in your /etc/rc.conf for `log_in_vain=3D1' or similar and remove it - the default, set in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, is to not log these attempts.=20 Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyXbfQACgkQixf5fBYiFmq4/gCfeRo1hNNo4XzFlSZUN5oQfbml T2MAnRaH3eT9qCjRUN6FWsMtlYQRwlNk =0cHg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 15:00:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CE61065698 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B358FC08 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8KF0ZHx096460 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:00:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o8KF0ZoA096455 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:00:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:00:34 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20100918114500.C20F41065761@hub.freebsd.org> <20100919194813.J11124@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4C971132.7060809@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:00:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:00:36 -0000 On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, Rob Farmer wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 00:45, Alex Dupre wrote: >> This "issue" has been discussed too many times. The answer is simply >> "no", but you can search the archives for the actual reason. You have to >> comile the module for your specific apache installation. >> >> -- >> Alex Dupre >> > > If you can't be bothered to give the "actual reason," then why even reply? > > I have searched the archives. Unfortunately, there are so many > messages revolving around how to set up php, secure it, etc. that it > becomes difficult to find anything relevant. The only thing I came > across was a thread from 2007 about how this is "more like a personal > preference than engineering as such"[1] and "its just one of those > things that you learn to live with after a while."[2] > > [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-June/151399.html > [2] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-June/151384.html I think that response was not all that unreasonable. I 'remember' the topic in general. My questions archive has > 80,000 messages. Most [all??] of the ones relating to this issue probably do not address that in the subject line and are thus lost [to me]. That said the following reasons come to mind: 1) security - google + security + php = 9.7 million hits Probably enough said. But if I do not have php installed why should I have to prune it from apache or worry about the subset of the 9.7 hits that relate to my server[s]. 2) apache builds w/o php, and should php4, php5, or php6 be included by default? The base apache httpd.conf file requires several statement to support php, they should not have to be removed if php is not installed. Having the base of any port install other packages/ports that are not required breaks the requirements/dependencies that are the heart of the ports system. 3) I think (proof left to the reader) there is an apache/php package. 4) My own opinion of best admin practices generally follows, if you don't need it, don't install it. If you build/install something like wordpress that requires both php and apache, the correct thing is done. Usually even the required directives are added to httpd.conf. The original question does not say if a port management system was used to upgrade apache. If that was the case, perhaps one could argue apache was not updated properly. Even in that case, I would argue that the bug [if any] lies with the port management system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 16:02:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F9A106566B for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55ED8FC0C for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o8KG0iNk013372; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:00:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:00:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201009201600.o8KG0iNk013372@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: drizzt321@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: Problem running custom startup script at proper time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:02:44 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 19 16:37:49 2010 > From: Aaron > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:39:08 -0700 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Problem running custom startup script at proper time > > Doh! Forgot to reply to the mailing list. > > > Nope, that didn't work either. Darn. Maybe I'll just have to modify > the /etc/rc.d/zfs script to run the for loop first :( How about just modifying the REQUIRE header on it to include 'gnop' the sequencer that selects the order to run rc.d things in sorts based on the REQUIRE/PROVIDES dependencies. > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 14:04, Boris Samorodov wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:55:41 -0700 Aaron wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 13:27, Boris Samorodov wrote: > >> > On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:40:52 -0700 Aaron wrote: > >> > > >> >> # PROVIDE: gnop > >> > > >> > What if you try "PROVIDE: disks" instead? > > > >> No good. I also tried the following in the gnop script: > > > >> # PROVIDE: gnop > >> # REQUIRE: mountcritlocal > >> # BEFORE: zfs > > > > /etc/rc.d/geli has this: > > ----- > > # PROVIDE: disks > > # REQUIRE: initrandom > > # KEYWORD: nojail > > ----- > > > > Seems that that should work for you. If not I'm out of ideas > > for now. > > > >> The services -r looks promising, but the dmesg is still the same :( > >> =A0When I disable zfs auto-mount, and then run it manually after boot, > >> it uses the .nop devices that were created correctly as it should. > > > >> EXCERPT services -r > >> /etc/rc.d/mdconfig > >> /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal > >> /etc/rc.d/gnop > >> /etc/rc.d/zfs > > > > -- > > WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) > > Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP > > FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > / From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 16:38:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4BB5106566B for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:38:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684398FC12 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxjO5-0001aJ-Li for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:38:41 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.86.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:38:41 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:38:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:40:50 -0400 Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: <20100918114500.C20F41065761@hub.freebsd.org> <20100919194813.J11124@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4C971132.7060809@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:38:43 -0000 doug@safeport.com wrote: > On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, Rob Farmer wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 00:45, Alex Dupre wrote: >>> This "issue" has been discussed too many times. The answer is simply >>> "no", but you can search the archives for the actual reason. You have to >>> comile the module for your specific apache installation. [snip] Many admins choose FastCGI over mod_php. We are not interested in having mod_php installed for us by default. So defaulting to 'off' is good. Had the OP been paying attention to this it would have been so simple for him to click the box in make config and build/install mod_php. Why should it be automatically "On" for those of us who do not want nor use mod_php? Being caught out when a change occurs is simply inattention to detail. [snip] > 4) My own opinion of best admin practices generally follows, if you > don't > need it, don't install it. > > If you build/install something like wordpress that requires both php and > apache, the correct thing is done. Usually even the required directives > are added to httpd.conf. The original question does not say if a port > management system was used to upgrade apache. If that was the case, > perhaps one could argue apache was not updated properly. Even in that > case, I would argue that the bug [if any] lies with the port management > system. The reason for paying attention is time can, and does, bring change. Maybe once upon a time installing mod_php was the default, but as more people selected alternatives it was decided to leave the choice up to the user. It is by not paying attention that such a change occurs and goes unnoticed. Blindly assuming that 'because it was always *this* way for years' does not mean things won't ever change. Many of these changes are logged in UPDATING. I have been updating Apache and PHP with portupgrade for years. I also recognize that a change in port build options may render the saved options file under the corresponding port directory in /var/db/ports invalid. When and if such a thing occurs it is up to me to recognize and adjust, rather than just blindly 'assume and ignore...'. These are the very typical duties of a system administrator. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 17:18:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0050B1065670 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44718FC1D for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o8KHGpxf013791 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:16:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:16:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201009201716.o8KHGpxf013791@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:18:48 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 20 07:11:41 2010 > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:20:52 -0700 > From: perryh@pluto.rain.com > To: FreeBSD@insightbb.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer > > Steven Friedrich wrote: > > > > "Common Unix Printing System" certainly sounds as if the intent > > > was to be the "ONE thing that is used for printing". Whether > > > they did a good job of it is another question entirely :( > > > > I think that you don't fully apreciate the task at hand. When > > Unix was first invented, there were no laser printers, ink jets, > > USB, etc. > > > > That no one can create a one-size fits all solution OWES to the > > fact it's simply not always possible to unify disparate designs. > > They weren't designed to be interoperable. Technology keeps > > marchng forward. We need to discard all of it eventually. > > Back in the CP/M and early MS-DOS days, similar doubts were raised > regarding display systems. > > Fortunately, those doubts did not stop some developers from doing > what others thought impossible. The results included X11, which > has been rather durable for a considerable time. , , ROTFLMAO "X" works IF AND ONLY IF you have: 1) software that uses and responds to the *PUBLISHED* protocol for communicatins between applications and servers 2) a server that _knows_ how to communicate to the actual display device. either because that device behaves in compliance with a PUBLISHED specification, or because somebody who 'knows the secrets' has provided it. There has been an *EXACTLY* EQUIVALENT solution for printers for more than two decades. It's called "PostScript". The problem with supporting modern "WinPrinters" is that a signficant amount of the 'smarts' necessary to produce a printed page are *NOT* in the printer. they are on the 'driver' that the printer manufacturer supplies (and only as MS-WINDOWS(r) code). They 'know the secrets' (see #2 above), of how to talk to the stupid hardware, and provide a 'standard interface' (the windows device driver) on the 'upstream' side of that software. Unfortunately, that is the *only* interface THEY provide -- you can't talk PostScript to it, you can't talk PCL to it, you cant talk "X" to it, you can't even talk "Plain ASCII" to it. Since _nobody_else_ "knows the secrets" of how to actually communite with that stupid hardware, we _CANNOT_ write a driver to use the device, no matter how much we would like to. *UNLESS* the manufacturer releases the protocol info (see #2 above) for direct device communiction, that is. Some hardware 'speaks' a "standard' language, and is plug-and-play interchangable with any other device that speaks the same language, without *ANY* changes (not even a different 'device driver') to whatever it is connected to. As long as the connecting device has *a* driver tat supports that standard. Hardware that speaks a 'proprietary' language requires a 'customized' driver on the host system -- one that knows how to translate from the format that applications use to what the printer understands. *IF* the proprietary language is _documented_ -- i.e. =published= (see #2m above) -- then *anybody* with an incendive to do so *CAN* do so. *WITHOUT* such documentation, from *somewhere*, we are simply =unable= to do the things necessary to utilize that printer. No matter _how- 'attractive it is. "Adapting" MS-Windows print drivers is not 'practical' either. A windows print driver is embedd in the O/S KERNEL, with _system_ calls_ (not mere 'library' routines) that implement the 'device-dependant' rendering of layout/formating directions. One then takes the 'opaque object' so produced and sends it (via _another_ set of system calls) to the 'output' function of that same driver. In the Unix world, printing is handled _externally_ to the kernel. The application must have =its=own=means= of deciding what formatting/layout commands to use -- it _can't_ query the O/S for this info; the O/S simply doesn't have it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 17:39:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C988010656A6 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3911C8FC1C for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Sep 2010 17:12:28 -0000 Received: from d136211.adsl.hansenet.de (EHLO [80.171.136.211]) [80.171.136.211] by mail.gmx.net (mp054) with SMTP; 20 Sep 2010 19:12:28 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3333826 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19i6F4SC0NiXDemW94glNn/1FlYBWZFWlgpD1c/zt 2Rz1gD2WrZgKi+ Message-ID: <4C97961F.8030406@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:13:03 +0200 From: Lokadamus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Boosten References: <4C778326.8090802@boosten.org> <04B5DBAB-ECB2-45B4-BC1E-068824019A3A@boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <04B5DBAB-ECB2-45B4-BC1E-068824019A3A@boosten.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Problems with upgrade - lost partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:39:09 -0000 Under vmware both disk are online? Show dmesg something about the lost disk? Show "atacontrol list" your second hdd? When you use a generic kernel "freebsd-update upgrade -r 8.1-RELEASE" will work fine, i think. Am 18.09.2010 22:58, schrieb Peter Boosten: > Ping... > > -- HTTP://www.boosten.org > > On 27 aug 2010, at 11:19, Peter Boosten wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I recently updated a machine (running on VMWare) from 7.2 to 8.1. >> >> This machine has two (virtual) disks. While the upgrade went rather >> smooth ('make buildworld, make buildkernel, make installkernel, reboot >> into single user, mergemaster -p, make installworld, mergemaster, >> reboot), I lost the partition on the second harddrive. >> >> So after reboot, the machine went directly in single user mode, because >> my /dev/ad1s1a was gone. The only devices in /dev where ad1 (the disk) >> and ad1s1 (the slice). >> >> Since I had a backup this didn't seem to be such a problem, however >> recreating the slice was. >> >> The only way I could get rid of that slice was through the gpart utility >> (sysinstall wouldn't help me at all): >> >> gpart delete ad1s1 >> gpart destroy ad1 >> >> After that sysinstall worked again. Is there any way around this (and >> preferably rescue the partition somehow, since I have more machines to >> upgrade, and while backups are there, restoring creates an additional >> delay in the whole process). >> >> Also, the numbering of the NICs changed from le0 to le1, which isn't >> that a big problem, but rather annoying. >> >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Peter >> -- >> http://www.boosten.org >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 19:00:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F78F1065670 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher.maness@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019BE8FC0C for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so1149076fxm.13 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:00:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xnWRvJVtcEyAOg780kU1aAnX4cbV4cFh0kLIzIdane4=; b=jwa/lnywZUIEoPIwMZg+1morBqqjRJofA4n8KhBpwHthxYE2VuyRIwTvSuijt9PtHG 2+ihepAppy5U4i52+f7h2yNrQ0m0vhKNVmnTaSjbxKR533Br8uVU46oAp75LmVVZMJAr vAACX8nENu8KPhEkEKB4kY4nR7XSBmRHxfP04= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=BCROG00Ex+LtCPwzhoMCtpG+5lnlYrI/0LItI60Rc0qF+bRLvWJOhBrIfTWk3g4+F8 Hk9Gl8DyVC7JMtDb9/6Dd/UlYTC5rl4EDxJvGhr/rdF2m8ZunkwIcowvM6oKBzadphE4 MFfNOZX8lwBDintG0jWYUz5V3IeceRXidlSuc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.121.134 with SMTP id h6mr5048870far.74.1285009208945; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Sender: christopher.maness@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.126.71 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:00:08 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: yw9vc5TAI97OP_7aDq3w2i5ckNw Message-ID: From: Chris Maness To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: RSS to email? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:00:12 -0000 Is there an app in ports that can fetch RSS feeds and send them as an email? Thanks, Chris Maness From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 19:30:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B111065672 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:30:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD84C8FC17 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so3390470qyk.13 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:30:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vG2s4b0UPJhwUr1/J427tEurhZexWqDJH/dEZYl/hVI=; b=PXjuuFch1GkonpVoCoiyXNp12Wk0RhzOJlvHWlYbrsZ2QwtiejUz1rxouSxVpDoocq sQENWiF02wO0jX3u6F5ZY9iuvUEJH0Sv7pCO4trGsJpPsQJ3F+cGVnZq7Z3ZFNEw7o8Q vLBzLcoFBjKOISWofcLX57oWKJaaOz0NWc7sw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=HltHe1XJ6jBCHvwQXXYeMxpEnuNulOikVVyC1ARb9BLyKJCmgClAStZPUpdoFIfrPm iQ74oAKXSXHYF7mdYDL6OVtbtNBVopGL+wRIHCrW4bYxgBqhYiKdPLOXv8Y2svb7jAHo EuC0PgPrq2obRfpGO/PtiaJwGHWO7lPKBC6oE= Received: by 10.229.183.20 with SMTP id ce20mr6373040qcb.203.1285011014103; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (173-161-130-225-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.161.130.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r1sm7912121qcq.46.2010.09.20.12.30.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C97B641.8030007@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:30:09 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Maness References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RSS to email? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:30:17 -0000 On 9/20/10 3:00 PM, Chris Maness wrote: > Is there an app in ports that can fetch RSS feeds and send them as an email? > mail/rss2email? :) Cheers, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 19:39:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDF01065670 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3488FC0A for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 97-126-31-96.tukw.qwest.net ([97.126.31.96] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oxm4q-0001mM-EX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:31:01 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:39:06 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:39:06 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100920193906.GC1909@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C97B641.8030007@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C97B641.8030007@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: RSS to email? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:39:13 -0000 --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Glen Barber on Monday, 20 September 2010: > On 9/20/10 3:00 PM, Chris Maness wrote: > > Is there an app in ports that can fetch RSS feeds and send them as an e= mail? > >=20 >=20 > mail/rss2email? :) >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > --=20 > Glen Barber > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" I like newspipe better, but it isn't in ports (that I could find). It's just a python script, though. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMl7haAAoJEIpckszW26+RbwYIAMe+eWwBf/x3UAcz6x9KTDjH CEVBQxSFJZxZ2oWgW/wfOQhQrgZX95mx8NIMzrRSH75MM0j0O7rNZoXO930o0qjh Z2+qj6EzN7Xv8KQ4lfr2KY8kgbVENQl2Ql3uh6z7hzVVWtERHM8XHuJ+TTtIBEwk DUmL9ytCNQMQ+vHLfRfrB8q1G7IkmckSyHrG01bBjGuLe9gEIiBkrw1T1DXfKAnC HmFjhq38rN53u9ELLoIZambwF1XumwfF+ycTNryiFaEJluqiUUqv12ovtW9iG2yA Gl70MlHb4wANp10dE4h+AIekZQFbDcJQsp/MWACWBykW5JkD2WnEICWGAZDeQGo= =opnc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 19:45:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3A6106566C for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0F08FC1D for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:45:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so5202208qyk.13 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:45:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xOkOi1edEJldZn8/vYPvpFpQKhWPIOB6DrbWZGzT21s=; b=LSZodnb39PI8FwcHP4GuAnHbjd+xC/6PgaZRQ1bBihWbUD8mAxpwLeLz6270cFSdQH GDIXDsmuAnQZcIMWYLvKDfZ7Ri3T/pzOni8mK5Oa38mhC9av9pXlM5/C2OsMtRU/0ONY NQbpZ+C2fL2bQPYNWUeEJOLjxtinj3QBttYgY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=CTfrcsRuyQRFioh0Q1S0AyTypjizIrxr59AwG53yVC8fmLXWbNCcTJRB7lEztbW//l 2C3LmiBirgtRqJMJPjLeGHsNYC+dG+xDtk3kPdNErv/+UqfPbYFRq0lHyxDW6N/TPhws iYX48yNklm1uoWQ+9NRpGo7ZfBF+8FzBQZAuw= Received: by 10.224.28.203 with SMTP id n11mr6235755qac.184.1285011901795; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (173-161-130-225-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.161.130.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x34sm865011qci.42.2010.09.20.12.44.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C97B9B9.2060101@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:44:57 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C97B641.8030007@gmail.com> <20100920193906.GC1909@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <20100920193906.GC1909@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: RSS to email? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:45:02 -0000 On 9/20/10 3:39 PM, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Glen Barber on Monday, 20 September 2010: >> On 9/20/10 3:00 PM, Chris Maness wrote: >>> Is there an app in ports that can fetch RSS feeds and send them as an email? >>> >> >> mail/rss2email? :) >> > > I like newspipe better, but it isn't in ports (that I could find). It's > just a python script, though. > That looks interesting. Looks like it's not maintained anymore though. I may try that out anyway. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 21:23:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EAE1065670 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:23:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA29E8FC14 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws2 with SMTP id 2so2590766vws.13 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:22:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.200.194 with SMTP id ex2mr2802354vcb.0.1285017777843; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.188.3 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:22:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [71.1.133.114] In-Reply-To: References: <20100918114500.C20F41065761@hub.freebsd.org> <20100919194813.J11124@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4C971132.7060809@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:22:57 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: doug@fledge.watson.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:23:00 -0000 On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 08:00, wrote: > I think that response was not all that unreasonable. I'm not sure if you are referring to me or ale here. > =A0 3) I think (proof left to the reader) there is an apache/php package. There's not. There's no way to run pkg_add -r and get the apache module (either that or it is poorly named and not found with a search). And, as I understand it, at one point there was, then it changed. My suggestion was to add it back via a slave port (say lang/php5-apache). This would be *in addition* to the existing lang/php5 port and everyone who is worried about unnecessary dependency bloat, security, etc. would be free to keep using that. Supposedly, there is a reason that shipping a binary package for this is impossible, despite the fact that every major Linux distribution does (and thus millions of web servers run this way) and supposedly there are many detailed descriptions of this reason in the list archives, though I can't find any. Adding the slave port was a good faith suggestion about how to improve the situation to meet everyone's needs. I feel it is rather dismissive and somewhat rude just say "The answer is simply 'no'" without any explanation. If it has been discussed so many times (for the record, I have been subscribed to this list for two years and have never seen such a thread), then it shouldn't be too hard to post a link. And if the maintainer is too busy with other work to do that, then, as I said, don't reply and let someone else explain it. --=20 Rob Farmer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 21:25:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5C5106566C for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd4michelle@tamay-dogan.net) Received: from mail.tamay-dogan.net (mail.tamay-dogan.net [88.168.69.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DB98FC19 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from michelle1.private.tamay-dogan.net (router.private.tamay-dogan.net [::ffff:192.168.0.65]) (AUTH: LOGIN michelle.konzack) by mail.tamay-dogan.net with esmtp; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:15:01 +0200 id 0000C620.4C97CED5.00004473 Received: by michelle1.private.tamay-dogan.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:15:01 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:15:01 +0200 From: Michelle Konzack To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100920211501.GS4392@michelle1> References: <4C97B641.8030007@gmail.com> <20100920193906.GC1909@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <4C97B9B9.2060101@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <4C97B9B9.2060101@gmail.com> X-Message-Flag: Improper configuration of Outlook is a breeding ground for viruses. Please take care your Client is configured correctly. Greetings Michelle. X-Disclaimer-DE: Eine weitere Verwendung oder die Veroeffentlichung dieser Mail oder dieser Mailadresse ist nur mit der Einwilligung des Autors gestattet. X-Disclaimer-EN: What are you looking here? X-Disclaimer-FR: Quest ce tu regarder ici? Organization: Tamay Dogan Network X-Operating-System: Linux michelle1 2.6.26-2-686 X-Homepage: http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: RSS to email? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:25:18 -0000 Hello Glen Barber, Am 2010-09-20 15:44:57, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > >> mail/rss2email? :) >=20 > That looks interesting. Looks like it's not maintained anymore though. > I may try that out anyway. I am using "rss2email" in my BSD and Debian GNU/Linux Systems with the version which I found in Debian, because there, it IS MAINTAINED. Please be careful if you have a DISK FULL error, because the current version does not check for it and trash the databases to 0 Bytes. AFAIK is this already solved in the latest Linux version which run without any changes on and BSD versions. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack --=20 ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ###################### Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux itsystems@tdnet France EURL itsystems@tdnet UG (limited liability) Owner Michelle Konzack Owner Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 (homeoffice) 50, rue de Soultz Kinzigstra=DFe 17 67100 Strasbourg/France 77694 Kehl/Germany Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil Tel: +33-9-52705884 fix Jabber linux4michelle@jabber.ccc.de ICQ #328449886 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 22:05:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB96106564A for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 22:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83978FC08 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 22:05:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8KM5XWJ002227 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:05:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C97DAA5.5080406@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:05:25 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100918114500.C20F41065761@hub.freebsd.org> <20100919194813.J11124@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4C971132.7060809@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD4C7F55256620B27C3D66097" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 22:05:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD4C7F55256620B27C3D66097 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20/09/2010 22:22:57, Rob Farmer wrote: > My suggestion was to add it back via a slave port (say > lang/php5-apache). This would be *in addition* to the existing > lang/php5 port and everyone who is worried about unnecessary > dependency bloat, security, etc. would be free to keep using that. Yes, but you'ld need several different php5-apache ports to account for the different versions of apache available: 1.3, 2.0, 2.2 at least -- or rather, the corresponding versions of devel/apr. apr itself can depend optionally on mysql, postgresql, openldap, etc. etc. -- each combination of options there produces a runtime pretty much incompatible with either apache or modules compiled against apr with other combinations of modules selected. You begin to see the problem? Having said that, I do feel that having mod_php5 support available as a pkg -- just compiled against the default apache version with the default apache/apr settings -- would be a positive thing. Sometimes you just want to throw some php application onto a server with minimum effort, and being able to do that without having to compile either php or apache is definitely a win. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigD4C7F55256620B27C3D66097 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyX2q0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyq+wCeIf2j3X16c8PjZj3RAV0+qEQj JnAAniDP6OVZYJEnsE8ooGkz7v6JrgKc =ZdJk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD4C7F55256620B27C3D66097-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 23:45:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1AF106564A for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from redcondor1.peak.org (redcondor1.peak.org [69.59.192.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17A88FC13 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from peak-mail-gateway.peak.org ([69.59.192.42]) by redcondor1.peak.org ({e03e86cd-14ae-47ce-9578-3c080ce9c462}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20100920234518880 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:45:18 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from oak.localnet (207.55.91.197.peak.org [207.55.91.197] (may be forged)) by peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id o8KNjGNS037965 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4623CD00 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o8KNjGbD033337; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:45:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <87pqwar5sc.fsf@oak.localnet> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:45:16 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87pqwar5sc.fsf@oak.localnet> (Carl Johnson's message of "Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:27:47 -0700") Message-ID: <87iq20ou7n.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: extra open ports in rkhunter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:45:23 -0000 Carl Johnson writes: > I am running rkhunter and it keeps reporting a port inconsistency > between sockstat and netstat -a. Netstat shows an extra 5 ports open, > but netstat doesn't show what is holding ports open, so I don't know > what they are. Does anybody know how to determine what is holding open > a port? I have been looking around but none of my ideas show anything. > This is a full desktop system with KDE4 and VirtualBox running, so it > has a lot of things running. The following are the ports if anybody has > any ideas, but I would also like to know how to trace them down myself: > tcp4 0 0 *.876 *.* LISTEN > tcp6 0 0 *.921 *.* LISTEN > udp4 0 0 *.608 *.* > udp6 0 0 *.952 *.* > udp6 0 0 *.804 *.* I did some further testing after getting some prompting from an off-list email. It turns out that all of those come from rpc.lockd, and that they are not fixed but change after every restart of rpc.lockd. I confirmed this with a fresh install from FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso into VirtualBox with networking disabled. I also verified the checksums of the .iso to be sure that nothing had been tampered with. I had just been trying out nfs but didn't find anything that I couldn't handle with ssh, so I have since disabled NFS and all rpc daemons. Unlisted ports should be useless, so something else must handle those addresses, probably rpcbind or maybe rpc.statd. It does seem odd that rpc.statd has port addresses that show up in sockstat and others, but rpc.lockd does not. I never did find anthing that will show many of those hidden ports. Nmap will show open ports for tcp4 and tcp6, but it is too slow for upd4 and doesn't handle udp6 at all. Nmap also doesn't identify who has opened ports except by standard addresses, so that can't identify daemons that dynamically assign their addresses. Thanks for all of the suggestions. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 00:06:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id A31AF1065672; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:06:24 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: David DEMELIER Message-ID: <20100921000624.GA86577@freebsd.org> References: <20100917003838.GA67783@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: make buildkernel pre-build too long X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:06:24 -0000 On Fri Sep 17 10, David DEMELIER wrote: > 2010/9/17 Alexander Best : > > On Thu Sep 16 10, David DEMELIER wrote: > >> Hi there, > >> > >> I can't understand why this part of make buildkernel is so long on my > >> amd64 machine (8.1-R) > >> > >> make -V CFILES -V SYSTEM_CFILES -V GEN_CFILES |  MKDEP_CPP="cc -E" > >> CC="cc" xargs mkdep -a -f .newdep -O2 -frename-registers -pipe > >> -fno-strict-aliasing  -std=c99  -Wall -Wredundant-decls > >> -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes > >> -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign > >> -fformat-extensions -nostdinc  -I. -I/usr/src/sys > >> -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter > >> -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath > >> -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm > >> -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs/FreeBSD > >> -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs/FreeBSD/support -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs > >> -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/opensolaris/compat -I/usr/src/sys/dev/cxgb > >> -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h > >> -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param > >> large-function-growth=1000  -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel > >> -mno-red-zone  -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -mno-mmx > >> -mno-3dnow  -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables > >> -ffreestanding -fstack-protector > >> > >> This command takes around 5-6 minutes before continuing, on my i386 > >> machine (which is really old) it only takes about 20 seconds. The > >> kernel configs are almost the same for both machines. > > > > are there any differences in /etc/make.conf? > > > > cheers. > > alex > > > >> > >> Do you have any idea? > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> -- > >> Demelier David > > > > -- > > a13x > > > > No, except the KERNCONF entry it's exactly the same : hmmm....strange. could you post the ouput of `make -VCFLAGS -VCOPTFLAGS` on both your machines, please? cheers. alex > > # General settings. > KERNCONF=Melon > MASTER_SORT?= .fr .uk > > # Portconf. > .if !empty(.CURDIR:M/usr/ports*) && exists(/usr/local/libexec/portconf) > _PORTCONF!=/usr/local/libexec/portconf > .for i in ${_PORTCONF:S/|/ /g} > ${i:S/%/ /g} > .endfor > .endif > > # Perl. > PERL_VERSION=5.10.1 > > # No need modules. > NO_MODULES=yes > > # Specify other directories. > WRKDIRPREFIX= /usr/obj > DISTDIR= /usr/distfiles > > -- > Demelier David -- a13x From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 00:19:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5C01065694 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drizzt321@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007F68FC1B for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so5440693qyk.13 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:19:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uynd0j8yEWXk1FTbTk+AHVl0bcXYXiNUWtzXIXHPEwQ=; b=dJRchrmJG8kksImlsfXi60vZcANz09VyYsN0h2AyMUAgbNHiHXIP1gyglRIwizAzG/ BpfGRrkKpzdTj8jng8WXQSL5IorowqAByASMCEbDLNhCC4XgJG7MOluk2vLNwbOc+GWJ 8eHIwQm8Hh7IBMEg7fOik272I90Ufv7Cx6HnY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kWruX4U4+Bd3f3MIaX5rDfyNTPn2QHhX69dEwHU1SA9g/ZZqD2xmB0YYsHKDA1E6wW T6ysKrZgiY/7cru+MMlh4AwbfY2yCcumiP11gv4XNi1D9AO2rWiIwmF2VpiELTn2dnUY DLJetU5jLV+VH8HniIvTKXj/rz8y7row1E93Y= Received: by 10.229.223.198 with SMTP id il6mr6878353qcb.50.1285028364225; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:19:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.236.85 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:19:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009201600.o8KG0iNk013372@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201009201600.o8KG0iNk013372@mail.r-bonomi.com> From: Aaron Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:19:04 -0700 Message-ID: To: Robert Bonomi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem running custom startup script at proper time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:19:25 -0000 On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 09:00, Robert Bonomi wro= te: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org =A0Sun Sep 19 16:37:49 2010 >> From: Aaron >> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:39:08 -0700 >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Problem running custom startup script at proper time >> >> Doh! Forgot to reply to the mailing list. >> >> >> Nope, that didn't work either. Darn. Maybe I'll just have to modify >> the /etc/rc.d/zfs script to run the for loop first :( > > How about just modifying the REQUIRE header on it to include =A0'gnop' > the sequencer that selects the order to run rc.d things in sorts based > on the REQUIRE/PROVIDES dependencies. > Nope, that didn't fix it. I even tried editing /etc/rc.d/zfs and included the gnop commands in the zfs_start(). The gnop still started up _after_ the ZFS in dmesg. However, I did figure it out after looking at the services that were starting up. There is apparent a 'zvol' script, which was the culprit. It was loading some ZFS stuff before the 'zfs' script. Once I set the 'gnop' script to startup before the 'zvol' script, worked like a charm. My zpool status now shows that it's using the gnop devices. Yay!! >> >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 14:04, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> > On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:55:41 -0700 Aaron wrote: >> >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 13:27, Boris Samorodov wrote: >> >> > On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:40:52 -0700 Aaron wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> # PROVIDE: gnop >> >> > >> >> > What if you try "PROVIDE: disks" instead? >> > >> >> No good. I also tried the following in the gnop script: >> > >> >> # PROVIDE: gnop >> >> # REQUIRE: mountcritlocal >> >> # BEFORE: zfs >> > >> > /etc/rc.d/geli has this: >> > ----- >> > # PROVIDE: disks >> > # REQUIRE: initrandom >> > # KEYWORD: nojail >> > ----- >> > >> > Seems that that should work for you. If not I'm out of ideas >> > for now. >> > >> >> The services -r looks promising, but the dmesg is still the same :( >> >> =3DA0When I disable zfs auto-mount, and then run it manually after bo= ot, >> >> it uses the .nop devices that were created correctly as it should. >> > >> >> EXCERPT services -r >> >> /etc/rc.d/mdconfig >> >> /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal >> >> /etc/rc.d/gnop >> >> /etc/rc.d/zfs >> > >> > -- >> > WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) >> > Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP >> > FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >> > > / > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 00:42:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1BE106566B for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FC78FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so3660270qyk.13 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:42:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.144 with SMTP id m16mr6406841qac.357.1285029742884; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.98.199 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:42:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.61.181] In-Reply-To: <201009201716.o8KHGpxf013791@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201009201716.o8KHGpxf013791@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:42:22 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Robert Bonomi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:42:25 -0000 On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Robert Bonomi w= rote: > "Adapting" =A0MS-Windows print drivers is not 'practical' either. =A0A wi= ndows > print driver is embedd in the O/S KERNEL, =A0with _system_ calls_ (not > mere 'library' routines) that implement the 'device-dependant' rendering > of layout/formating directions. =A0One then takes the 'opaque object' so > produced and sends it (via _another_ set of system calls) to the 'output' > function of that same driver. Is that really so? How about writing some emulation shim like ndis(4) for winprinters? Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm not a Windows systems programmer, but this is what I'm thinking about. As far as I understand Windows printing, there are two aspects to resolve, given a vendor supplied windriver binary blob: 1/ the windriver gets some (opaque) data from the GDI+ -- maybe a bitmap, with some meta data. 2/ the windriver interprets this data however it sees fit, and then talks t= o the NT kernel (maybe via DLL calls) to send electrical impulses to the printer. Now, the data formats of 1/ (GDI stuff) is probably well defined (and therefore published) in gdiplus.dll or something similar and is the same for all windriver blobs. The API/ABI needed to talk to the NT kernel is probably defined in the Windows DDK (or whatever it is called nowadays). So, in both cases, we have stable API/ABI interfaces on both sides of the windriver binary blob: 1/, 2/ at the upper half, and 2/ at the botto= m half. So, if we wanted to use those windriver blobs just like in the ndis(4) case, all we need is an emulation shim for both interfaces. Maybe 1/ is already covered by Wine (?) so we could borrow some code from there; and 2/ is basically a matter of mapping the subset of NT calls needed to read from and write to Windows ports to Unix calls to read and write to our Unix devices. Again, I'm no Windows programmer, and it is probably more involved than this. But the basic idea remains: the interfaces on both sides of the windriver binary blobs is pretty stable and (I think) not a secret at all. > In the Unix world, printing is handled _externally_ to the kernel. The > application must have =3Dits=3Down=3Dmeans=3D of deciding what formatting= /layout > commands to use -- it _can't_ query the O/S for this info; the O/S simply > doesn't have it. Well, it doesn't matter if the windriver shims run as userland daemon or (partially) inside the kernel. The point here is that the windriver <-> NT, and windriver <-> GDI+ interface are both stable and not difficult to understand, so both can be emulated. At least theoretically. In practice, it takes some time and effort to get it right, quite obviously. -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 03:25:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32CE106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:25:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net [76.96.53.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B0B8FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta01.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net ([76.96.53.6]) by qmta01.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net with comcast id 9F8s1f00F082Dic01FBmwS; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:11:46 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([70.89.202.1]) by omta01.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net with bizsmtp id 9FBk1f00202K3z201FBmVQ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:11:46 +0000 From: Ryan Coleman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 22:11:44 -0500 Message-Id: To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Subject: Zip file making issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:25:03 -0000 Does anyone have any advice for this? I'm working on a series of commands - executed in a shell script - that = zips a deep directory in a tree. But it makes the full path as part of = the ZIP file. That's not what I want - I just want those directories = that appear after the "*". In this case: "-J" eliminates all the paths - bad because it also kills those after = the "*" Here's my default that includes the whole d*mn path. /usr/local/bin/zip -r = /usr/www/d3photography.com/htdocs/images/paidphotos/1284343047-Le-ach.zip = /mount/archive/orders/Sep20/1284343047-Le-ach/download* I could just run a "cd" to the directory parent and do it there - that = would solve the problem - but that's simply too dangerous if the script = generator throws an error on the next set of commands (a risk I do not = want to take). So how do I get it to store as "download/small/image.jpg" inside of the = ZIP file instead of = "mount/archive/orders/Sep20/1284343047-Le-ach/download/small/image.jpg". I only recently discovered this bug -- none of my clients have had the = guts to tell me about it. TIA, Ryan=20= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 03:49:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA01D1065670 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from gsicomp.on.ca (gsicomp.on.ca [200.46.208.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B408FC13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) by gsicomp.on.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF5CFCB21A; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gsicomp.on.ca ([200.46.208.251]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 82411-01; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hermes (CPE002129cfd480-CM001ac3584898.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.236.129.198]) by gsicomp.on.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F305FCA435; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: From: "Matt Emmerton" To: "Ryan Coleman" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:32:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Cc: Subject: Re: Zip file making issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:49:22 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Coleman" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:11 PM Subject: Zip file making issues Does anyone have any advice for this? I'm working on a series of commands - executed in a shell script - that zips a deep directory in a tree. But it makes the full path as part of the ZIP file. That's not what I want - I just want those directories that appear after the "*". In this case: "-J" eliminates all the paths - bad because it also kills those after the "*" Here's my default that includes the whole d*mn path. /usr/local/bin/zip -r /usr/www/d3photography.com/htdocs/images/paidphotos/1284343047-Le-ach.zip /mount/archive/orders/Sep20/1284343047-Le-ach/download* I could just run a "cd" to the directory parent and do it there - that would solve the problem - but that's simply too dangerous if the script generator throws an error on the next set of commands (a risk I do not want to take). So how do I get it to store as "download/small/image.jpg" inside of the ZIP file instead of "mount/archive/orders/Sep20/1284343047-Le-ach/download/small/image.jpg". I only recently discovered this bug -- none of my clients have had the guts to tell me about it. ============== Just change the directory before you start zipping. cd /mount/archive/orders/Sep20/1284343047-Le-ach /usr/local/bin/zip -r /usr/www/d3photography.com/htdocs/images/paidphotos/1284343047-Le-ch.zip download* -- Matt Emmerton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 03:54:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589AE106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net [76.96.53.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A6A8FC15 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta01.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net ([76.96.53.6]) by qmta01.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net with comcast id 9Fqs1f01G082Dic01Fu2oB; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:54:02 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([70.89.202.1]) by omta01.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net with bizsmtp id 9Ftz1f00102K3z201Fu1pe; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:54:02 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) From: Ryan Coleman X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 22:53:58 -0500 Message-Id: <70BA7AC2-7300-41F6-9D3E-7AFEAD7F533E@d3photography.com> References: To: Matt Emmerton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Zip file making issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:54:03 -0000 On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Matt Emmerton wrote: >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Coleman" = > To: "FreeBSD Questions" > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:11 PM > Subject: Zip file making issues >=20 >=20 > Does anyone have any advice for this? >=20 > I'm working on a series of commands - executed in a shell script - = that zips a deep directory in a tree. But it makes the full path as part = of the ZIP file. That's not what I want - I just want those directories = that appear after the "*". In this case: >=20 > "-J" eliminates all the paths - bad because it also kills those after = the "*" >=20 > Here's my default that includes the whole d*mn path. > /usr/local/bin/zip -r = /usr/www/d3photography.com/htdocs/images/paidphotos/1284343047-Le-ach.zip = /mount/archive/orders/Sep20/1284343047-Le-ach/download* >=20 > I could just run a "cd" to the directory parent and do it there - that = would solve the problem - but that's simply too dangerous if the script = generator throws an error on the next set of commands (a risk I do not = want to take). >=20 > So how do I get it to store as "download/small/image.jpg" inside of = the ZIP file instead of = "mount/archive/orders/Sep20/1284343047-Le-ach/download/small/image.jpg". >=20 > I only recently discovered this bug -- none of my clients have had the = guts to tell me about it. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > Just change the directory before you start zipping. >=20 > cd /mount/archive/orders/Sep20/1284343047-Le-ach > /usr/local/bin/zip -r = /usr/www/d3photography.com/htdocs/images/paidphotos/1284343047-Le-ch.zip = download* As I said in my OP: I could just run a "cd" to the directory parent and = do it there - that would solve the problem - but that's simply too = dangerous if the script generator throws an error on the next set of = commands (a risk I do not want to take). Thank you, though. I'm hoping to find a solution instead with PHP. One = of these generated files comes out of PHP in a different directory path = where a change of directory is not possible. -- Ryan= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 02:39:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E8D106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from williamkindler@att.net) Received: from smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CAAA78FC15 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 55921 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2010 02:12:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1285035162; bh=+AR5yGba2X7frRiBuzkecPhoeiLwJrpKzLrMOuAIqZ4=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RinXbQnJt4ZTdT/lyR39xP1TUPMwQgVF/gwzTT+a5kvuEZt3/YjyyaBqbs06xlzz1WoSuphau5PSntcNtbhjiG2jfCQVPJQapc/t974hafB/gq46+vKU1lTHcHecZovUt9LCES9F4mpVL2BeKGeib4MGoMdmQr10fwsIoHz8rfc= Received: from [192.168.1.68] (williamkindler@70.251.231.220 with plain) by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2010 19:12:41 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: n2sngnaswBD_oQEG.n1zV36auifmekZFoMeDMEXfqALuwMs- X-YMail-OSG: MQ_beawVM1kXVY7W8rx2TpC5KcgpDPsmwLPIylo6YQY1Ldl lUvJeRDwC0TPeC3WIJwVM9m2jZQTdzWJT74cui6MyJ6w8YynqCbRLNtw3T8j Uhb0TSgKJ8fybINRd4a59Ql6uPsUFKmR6pN.oFX08ZBqWl7ZY0PDNyCr5Tkg usViWt.UTHQEtPFjrztU2xDYZDEXahRXvsTzcxcEkGwh0q3i581Pnsr_ikfV kdN5OvWKHD9f.4IhtjhcVaveh2GbM X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4C98149D.6070902@att.net> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:12:45 -0500 From: William Kindler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100711 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:22:17 +0000 Cc: Subject: wireless networking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: williamkindler@att.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:39:23 -0000 -- I have 2 wireless adapter that I am able to use for my system. One is a usb device, a D-Link DWA130, and the other is a PCI device, a Netgear WN311T. I can find no information about Linux or UNIX support, or drivers for either, on your website or on the respective manufacturer's sites, nor can I find out what chipsets they are using. Are either of these devices supported with Free-BSD, or the PC-BSD? Bill Kindler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 04:40:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A4C1065694 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.ross@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 85CCB8FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 21 Sep 2010 04:14:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO n200) [188.108.68.9] by mail.gmx.net (mp049) with SMTP; 21 Sep 2010 06:14:01 +0200 X-Authenticated: #11429267 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18G5DUbPG8GBOKnazQ/X4RxnfFSmJGT2yYkwgSZnb /wwLeyVgo7oWU2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <70BA7AC2-7300-41F6-9D3E-7AFEAD7F533E@d3photography.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:14:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <70BA7AC2-7300-41F6-9D3E-7AFEAD7F533E@d3photography.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.62 (Win32) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Zip file making issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:40:44 -0000 Am 21.09.2010, 05:53 Uhr, schrieb Ryan Coleman : > > As I said in my OP: I could just run a "cd" to the directory parent and > do it there - that would solve the problem - but that's simply too > dangerous if the script generator throws an error on the next set of > commands (a risk I do not want to take). Maybe you could: mount -t nullfs -o ro /where/my/data/is /mnt cd /mnt zip ... Regards, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 05:10:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE35106566B for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net [76.96.53.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF228FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net ([76.96.53.7]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net with comcast id 9GtM1f00709Ku2s09GwwM9; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:56:56 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([70.89.202.1]) by omta02.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net with bizsmtp id 9Gwp1f00302K3z202Gwuq6; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:56:56 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:56:48 -0500 Message-Id: <7BB63DDA-62AB-43FB-B6A3-3ABDFB3A16F6@cwis.biz> References: <70BA7AC2-7300-41F6-9D3E-7AFEAD7F533E@d3photography.com> To: Michael Ross X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Zip file making issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:10:23 -0000 On Sep 20, 2010, at 11:14 PM, Michael Ross wrote: > Am 21.09.2010, 05:53 Uhr, schrieb Ryan Coleman = : >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> As I said in my OP: I could just run a "cd" to the directory parent = and do it there - that would solve the problem - but that's simply too = dangerous if the script generator throws an error on the next set of = commands (a risk I do not want to take). >=20 > Maybe you could: >=20 > mount -t nullfs -o ro /where/my/data/is /mnt > cd /mnt > zip ... Excellent suggestion. I have a PHP possibility I am going to try... and = if that fails I think this will be the likely resolution for at least = the shell script (although this still doesn't fix the PHP run command - = I'll deal with that later I guess) -- Ryan= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 05:14:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA28106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2B18FC17 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8L5EE8u007916 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:14:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C983F1F.700@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:14:07 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ryan Coleman References: <70BA7AC2-7300-41F6-9D3E-7AFEAD7F533E@d3photography.com> In-Reply-To: <70BA7AC2-7300-41F6-9D3E-7AFEAD7F533E@d3photography.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFF807B0491A269683C45C2D1" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL,URI_OBFU_WWW autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Zip file making issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:14:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFF807B0491A269683C45C2D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/09/2010 04:53:58, Ryan Coleman wrote: > As I said in my OP: I could just run a "cd" to the directory parent > and do it there - that would solve the problem - but that's simply > too dangerous if the script generator throws an error on the next set > of commands (a risk I do not want to take). Um.... changing directory *is* the way to solve this. Really. What you can do in a shell script is work in a sub-shell: that way, even if your zip command goes bananas, you are automatically returned to your original working directory. To create a sub-shell, just enclose your commands in (brackets). ( cd /mount/archive/orders/Sep20/1284343047-Le-ach/ ; zip -r /usr/www/d3photography.com/htdocs/images/paidphotos/1284343047-Le-ach.zip= \ download* ) Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigFF807B0491A269683C45C2D1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyYPyYACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz0IACePQgpkAU2+CkxRm1SkJlOLJdW l6wAn3eBEbDNGpikgVF7xrHgFQ5ayIUf =1FNw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFF807B0491A269683C45C2D1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 05:16:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483F5106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net [76.96.53.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B288FC0C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net ([76.96.53.7]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net with comcast id 9HD71f00609Ku2s09HGpim; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:16:49 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([70.89.202.1]) by omta02.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net with bizsmtp id 9HGo1f00402K3z202HGoJ3; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:16:49 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <4C983F1F.700@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:16:48 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <70BA7AC2-7300-41F6-9D3E-7AFEAD7F533E@d3photography.com> <4C983F1F.700@infracaninophile.co.uk> To: Matthew Seaman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Zip file making issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:16:50 -0000 That changing of directories doesn't solve the PHP script I have = building ZIP files, though, with a single shell command (path/to/zip = /path/to/zip.zip -r /path/to/folder/to/zip). But I have solved this now with another PHP script that I can call both = as part of my Apache CGI but also as a CLI. I just have to implement it which I will do in the morning. -- Ryan On Sep 21, 2010, at 12:14 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 21/09/2010 04:53:58, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> As I said in my OP: I could just run a "cd" to the directory parent >> and do it there - that would solve the problem - but that's simply >> too dangerous if the script generator throws an error on the next set >> of commands (a risk I do not want to take). >=20 > Um.... changing directory *is* the way to solve this. Really. >=20 > What you can do in a shell script is work in a sub-shell: that way, > even if your zip command goes bananas, you are automatically returned = to > your original working directory. To create a sub-shell, just enclose > your commands in (brackets). >=20 > ( > cd /mount/archive/orders/Sep20/1284343047-Le-ach/ ; > zip -r > = /usr/www/d3photography.com/htdocs/images/paidphotos/1284343047-Le-ach.zip = \ > download* > ) >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Matthew >=20 > --=20 > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 06:21:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DAE1065672; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D9A8FC12; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so6276830bwz.13 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:21:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=74kklkhZ6SNwOZovqI7x6fcrpRu/iqdVkLxMEMe1VHA=; b=NdKFodMENcbRWqbX3X8du/HNgbLwBOGQcMXzRdjzm5uCSwdj2KubQFGcX67zDAv+8+ q2xPiVilHnLfcY5UY8If8BqUKT4jnlY0Mq/oBC+bD9B8I89AVO2Tx8z+SeSe2faLmsBs +LcBhiFzm//bdkZy14599l0jbT3l+u1rNl+tw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Pr1MywLH/c4neKH438JGxIJFkFpSfUssTysaOfhULDsz53H6JzeqRf0TpkZLiwl2kU hrLqLyDgAYVVRPgtYqU2unfTXhD1vYre9YE3hf0T332D1XpFw8ZKPeioHQrwKR1QRhl1 tJcOT2o377O5UDR0WUpsW3DSLWIGlOfkt9ChM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.180.75 with SMTP id bt11mr7574643bkb.115.1285050088308; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.97.208 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:21:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100921000624.GA86577@freebsd.org> References: <20100917003838.GA67783@freebsd.org> <20100921000624.GA86577@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:21:28 +0200 Message-ID: From: David DEMELIER To: Alexander Best Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: make buildkernel pre-build too long X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:21:30 -0000 2010/9/21 Alexander Best : > On Fri Sep 17 10, David DEMELIER wrote: >> 2010/9/17 Alexander Best : >> > On Thu Sep 16 10, David DEMELIER wrote: >> >> Hi there, >> >> >> >> I can't understand why this part of make buildkernel is so long on my >> >> amd64 machine (8.1-R) >> >> >> >> make -V CFILES -V SYSTEM_CFILES -V GEN_CFILES | =C2=A0MKDEP_CPP=3D"cc= -E" >> >> CC=3D"cc" xargs mkdep -a -f .newdep -O2 -frename-registers -pipe >> >> -fno-strict-aliasing =C2=A0-std=3Dc99 =C2=A0-Wall -Wredundant-decls >> >> -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes =C2=A0-Wmissing-prototypes >> >> -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual =C2=A0-Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign >> >> -fformat-extensions -nostdinc =C2=A0-I. -I/usr/src/sys >> >> -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter >> >> -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath >> >> -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm >> >> -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs/FreeBSD >> >> -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs/FreeBSD/support -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs >> >> -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/opensolaris/compat -I/usr/src/sys/dev/cxgb >> >> -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h >> >> -fno-common -finline-limit=3D8000 --param inline-unit-growth=3D100 --= param >> >> large-function-growth=3D1000 =C2=A0-fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel= =3Dkernel >> >> -mno-red-zone =C2=A0-mfpmath=3D387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -mno-= mmx >> >> -mno-3dnow =C2=A0-msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables >> >> -ffreestanding -fstack-protector >> >> >> >> This command takes around 5-6 minutes before continuing, on my i386 >> >> machine (which is really old) it only takes about 20 seconds. The >> >> kernel configs are almost the same for both machines. >> > >> > are there any differences in /etc/make.conf? >> > >> > cheers. >> > alex >> > >> >> >> >> Do you have any idea? >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Demelier David >> > >> > -- >> > a13x >> > >> >> No, except the KERNCONF entry it's exactly the same : > > hmmm....strange. could you post the ouput of `make -VCFLAGS -VCOPTFLAGS` = on > both your machines, please? > > cheers. > alex > >> >> # General settings. >> KERNCONF=3DMelon >> MASTER_SORT?=3D .fr .uk >> >> # Portconf. >> .if !empty(.CURDIR:M/usr/ports*) && exists(/usr/local/libexec/portconf) >> _PORTCONF!=3D/usr/local/libexec/portconf >> .for i in ${_PORTCONF:S/|/ /g} >> ${i:S/%/ /g} >> .endfor >> .endif >> >> # Perl. >> PERL_VERSION=3D5.10.1 >> >> # No need modules. >> NO_MODULES=3Dyes >> >> # Specify other directories. >> WRKDIRPREFIX=3D =C2=A0 /usr/obj >> DISTDIR=3D =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/usr/distfiles >> >> -- >> Demelier David > > -- > a13x > -O2 -pipe I think the problem is the amd64 architecture. When I buildkernel using TARGET_ARCH=3Di386 it takes only one minute or even less, it's only native target (amd64) which is long. Kind regards, --=20 Demelier David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 06:37:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2688D1065675 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faust64@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55228FC0C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so5657767qyk.13 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:37:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=2FUSkZNlKzaMEYjP1UYEl+i8jf0nEuZlqX4i0gOwSeQ=; b=AOIkKNi0TUk0Ykf5RLYPpTUDMIdZl0L9iVKv7XLkDY5L0pFzzzEY+tf2VQ6GxYvu3u tRGqUm8N6unwZ09WtXxZ7QJOE8FNLvGEZssBx2/hGJ4ct6ZKaKdqrgk/HfePkbaAf8Z7 zYkGwWvhQabp1lGgYkw6UNQTzDr26+oX9KSL0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=WgZwhBi2tFDGMUAKvFe7Ds3uY6dqnvktHHLXjDObT9/IFC8Hxl7K7meWptFuNoK0Av mwZnp7EJh2Gb1Y6JfnMf7pd+L+19Em3KbHy7fna5H8yiWV344mDE3Oz/lN34Xko6qNz3 yFpdQXn0W5FGz8/M7vksTlLNW3XIYhxaZ5DUs= Received: by 10.224.104.220 with SMTP id q28mr6589318qao.371.1285051074253; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:37:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.187.212 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:37:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C98149D.6070902@att.net> References: <4C98149D.6070902@att.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Mart=EDn_Moro?= Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:37:24 +0200 Message-ID: To: williamkindler@att.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wireless networking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:37:55 -0000 to find about your devices, and check you've a driver to use them: pciconf -lv Samuel Mart=EDn Moro {EPITECH.} tek5 CamTrace S.A.S (+033) 1 41 38 37 60 1 All=E9e de la Venelle 92150 Suresnes FRANCE "Nobody wants to say how this works. Maybe nobody knows ..." Xorg.conf(5) On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:12 AM, William Kindler wr= ote: > > -- I have 2 wireless adapter that I am able to use for my system. One is = a > usb device, a D-Link DWA130, and the other is a PCI device, a Netgear > WN311T. I can find no information about Linux or UNIX support, or drivers > for either, on your website or on the respective manufacturer's sites, no= r > can I find out what chipsets they are using. > Are either of these devices supported with Free-BSD, or the PC-BSD? > > > Bill Kindler > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 08:18:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C76106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faust64@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA138FC12 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so4627088qwg.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 01:18:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=/r5hNLfEApN68MBKLwyqRduE7kBxSub47Ywbu9NYJBQ=; b=jUtQrXkRharZSlJcrz+nPbh6QR9q4d+3dcMoVfwxKO2+5Nm6XCKf6SmL3AQCFfoWJx Qc0/eNaaIjHVO+mIB4R+Js4u+F+IFYS3RNm/PS4sbZb5YZBlwAyjhWDeMpxxvc2Tz4QU PwFLGcJ5gzzoa8p+ieztIFLHUwhEdyEeoE6Rg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=FC/hQS/e64fuPVAVhflY9OKypSvAW8dH51McsLz3Jb7+bmLTWnztBjDNO1SeYTv/FW nP+gqo7MgVyAArQE3PiDHecmdm6jiIKEO4G+3ONOlqdNIf/4o/hwEYM2KV3knc/iIs4W ZSpq3C3JDMqIaRKm7GyB1sHWFdbQw+0GNqyo8= Received: by 10.224.116.18 with SMTP id k18mr6658967qaq.303.1285057115181; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 01:18:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.187.212 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 01:18:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Mart=EDn_Moro?= Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:18:05 +0200 Message-ID: To: dnsmasq-discuss@lists.thekelleys.org.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: dnsmasq, mfsBSD, status refused X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:18:36 -0000 Hi, I tried to associate hostnames with IPs in the hosts file. And it worked... With my linux gate, declaring hosts (mac,ip,name,lease) in one line works perfectly... I don't understand why it won't with FreeBSD... Whatever, sorry for the disturbance :) Cheers, Samuel Mart=EDn Moro {EPITECH.} tek5 CamTrace S.A.S On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Samuel Mart=EDn Moro wr= ote: > > Hi > > > I'm trying to replace my gate with a qnap ts-509. > I installed mfsBSD, based on FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE amd64. > I just had to build some pre-configured packages, add ipfw, ipfw_nat and > libalias to boot modules. > > Everything's working just fine, except for the DNS (dnsmasq-2.55,1.tbz, > rebuilt with config files and ipfw startup script) > > DHCP works perfectly. But DNS does not... > Even on the (soon-to-be) gateway, so I'm assuming ipfw is not related to > the problem (in doubt, I still send it) > root@phi /real/tmp : ipfw list > 00001 check-state > 00002 allow ip from any to any via lo0 > 00003 allow tcp from any to any established > 00500 allow ip from any to any via bge1 > 00666 allow tcp from me to any out via bge0 setup uid root keep-state > 65535 deny ip from any to any > (since bge0 is not plugged, it's quite empty...) > > > > root@phi /real/tmp : ./dig @localhost alpha.faust-network > > ; <<>> DiG 9.6.2-P2 <<>> alpha.faust-network > ;; global options: +cmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 13068 > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;alpha.faust-network. IN A > > ;; Query time: 13 msec > ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) > ;; WHEN: Mon Sep 20 13:41:15 2010 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 37 > > > basically, my configuration is the following: > > cache-size=3D1024 > local-ttl=3D15 > log-dhcp > interface=3Dbge1 > bind-interfaces > no-negcache > dhcp-range=3D10.254.254.1,10.254.254.254,255.0.0.0,1h > dhcp-boot=3Dpxelinux.0,omega,10.42.42.45 # PXE TFTP server (omeg= a) > dhcp-option=3D3,10.242.42.254 # gateway > dhcp-option=3D19,1 # option ip-forwarding = off > dhcp-option=3D23,42 # TTL de 42 > dhcp-option=3D44,10.242.42.254 # Wins Server > dhcp-option=3D45,10.242.42.254 # NetBios DDS > dhcp-option=3D46,8 # NetBios Node Type > > dhcp-option=3Doption:ntp-server,213.186.41.134,88.191.79.242,193.55.167.2= ,80.65.235.4,194.57.191.1,91.121.45.45 > dhcp-script=3D/usr/local/bin/dhcp_action > domain=3Dfaust-network > expand-hosts > bogus-nxdomain=3D64.94.110.11 #get SSL certificate from another CASer= ver > localmx > selfmx > conf-file=3D/usr/local/etc/blocklist.conf # filter adds, shits, facebook,= ... > > > my resolv.conf: > nameserver 10.242.42.254 #localhost, priv addr > nameserver 8.8.4.4 > domain faust-network > > > I already have a dnsmasq working perfectly on my current gate > (ArchLinux-x86_64). > I copied the configuration, making a few changes (192.168.0.0/24 -> > 10.0.0.0/8). > So, I don't understant what I'm doing wrong.... > Any idea? > > > > Cheers, > > --- > > Samuel Mart=EDn Moro > {EPITECH.} tek5 > CamTrace S.A.S > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 08:58:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7571065693 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eca.302496@vmail11.mynewsletterbuilder.com) Received: from vmail11.mynewsletterbuilder.com (vmail11.mynewsletterbuilder.com [208.83.141.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76968FC22 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:58:23 -0400 From: "Lynn" To: Message-ID: <0eca.302496.1998581@vmail11.mynewsletterbuilder.com> X-MNB-TRACKING: Y29udGVudGthcmVuIDogZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmcgOiAxODY2ODUzMzg3 X-MNB-SENDID: 1866853387 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: SpeedVoIP News 2010: VGSCLite Unblock your PC Dialer in UAE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lynn List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:58:24 -0000 ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Software VGSCLite + Any brand softphone/dialer in UAE/Oman/Qatar/Africa = work fine! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 09:03:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9426D1065679 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:03:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EB08FC1B for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:03:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 14377838 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:03:17 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8L93GNw036914 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:03:17 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8L93GT9036913 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:03:16 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru using -f Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:03:16 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100921090316.GA36655@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100920060811.GA10084@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://vas.tomsk.ru/vas.asc Subject: Re: apache22 and threads X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:03:20 -0000 Michael Powell wrote: > > > > When building apache22 from ports, would you recommend to enable or to > > disable threads support? > > > > Even more confusing is the fact that for ports/www/apache22 the default > > is: "Enable threads support in APR is off" (WITHOUT_THREADS=true) > > > > while for ports/devel/apr1 the default is: > > "Enable Threads in apr is on" (WITH_THREADS=true). > > > > Thank you in advance for any input. > > > > PS ports/devel/apr1 will also be used for the subversion client. > > > > I wouldn't mind someone with more apache22-fu to elaborate, correcting the > following if necessary. > > My thoughts are this matters depending upon which mpm you choose to build > into apache. The default is prefork, and it handles incoming requests by > spawning child processes. Do you mean to say "WITH_MPM=prefork" works exactly like apache13? [dd] > > An additional consideration might be what kind of backend is used. For > example, since not all of PHP is known to be thread safe it is not > recommended for use with a threaded server and mod_php. The way to get > around this situation is to separate PHP from Apache with something like > mod_fcgid which runs PHP as a FastCGI. This way you can safely run a > threaded Apache with non-thread safe PHP. As far as which is the better > approach I still am not really sure. Each has its set of pros and cons. From what you have written it seems that prefork and no threads is the robustest, most reliable configuration (even if more resource consuming)? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 09:39:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99A61065696 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:39:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384F78FC1E for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:39:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4303B60; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:22:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Jvd3bTCQHM8t; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:22:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snifi.localnet (unknown [212.69.68.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4716F5A; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:22:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Maciej Milewski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, williamkindler@att.net Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:22:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.35-ARCH; KDE/4.5.1; x86_64; ; ) References: <4C98149D.6070902@att.net> In-Reply-To: <4C98149D.6070902@att.net> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201009211122.03155.milu@dat.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: wireless networking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:39:18 -0000 On Tuesday 21 September 2010 04:12:45, William Kindler wrote: > -- I have 2 wireless adapter that I am able to use for my system. One is > a usb device, a D-Link DWA130, and the other is a PCI device, a Netgear > WN311T. I can find no information about Linux or UNIX support, or > drivers for either, on your website or on the respective manufacturer's > sites, nor can I find out what chipsets they are using. > Are either of these devices supported with Free-BSD, or the PC-BSD? > Bill Kindler Asking google shows that there are informations about them on many linux forums. It depends on revision of these cards because f.ex. DWA130 has 5 revisions from A(no rev number) to E and they're using different chipsets inside. As an example information from net8192su.inf: %DWA-130C2.DeviceDesc% = RTL8192su.ndi, USB\VID_07D1&PID_3302 %DWA-130E1.DeviceDesc% = RTL8192su.ndi, USB\VID_07D1&PID_3300 %DWA-131A1.DeviceDesc% = RTL8192su.ndi, USB\VID_07D1&PID_3303 I don't know this chipset and if it's supported by any driver. Looking for the Netgear it looks that it's Marvell 88W8361 and it's rather not supported by FreeBSD. Atleast man(8) mwl says that only 88W8363 is supported. Regards, Maciek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 09:46:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABDC106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070068FC12 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxzQU-00032X-A1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:46:14 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.86.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:46:14 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:46:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:48:23 -0400 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <20100920060811.GA10084@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20100921090316.GA36655@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-86-179.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: apache22 and threads X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:46:20 -0000 Victor Sudakov wrote: [snip] >> >> My thoughts are this matters depending upon which mpm you choose to build >> into apache. The default is prefork, and it handles incoming requests by >> spawning child processes. > > Do you mean to say "WITH_MPM=prefork" works exactly like apache13? > Essentially yes. Although you don't have to specify as it is the default. You would only need to specify for a non-default configuration. >> >> An additional consideration might be what kind of backend is used. For >> example, since not all of PHP is known to be thread safe it is not >> recommended for use with a threaded server and mod_php. The way to get >> around this situation is to separate PHP from Apache with something like >> mod_fcgid which runs PHP as a FastCGI. This way you can safely run a >> threaded Apache with non-thread safe PHP. As far as which is the better >> approach I still am not really sure. Each has its set of pros and cons. > > From what you have written it seems that prefork and no threads > is the robustest, most reliable configuration (even if more resource > consuming)? > Most tried and true with the longest track record. Definitely the conservative approach. I have been running the event mpm with PHP as FastCGI for about a year and a half now on two servers with no reliability issues. However, neither is ever fully loaded so I can't say whether they'd fold if hit with enough traffic. The prefork mpm without threads and mod_php is a safe bet for a server that will not be hitting the wall, traffic volume-wise. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 10:23:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AEA11065672 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:23:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89D78FC20 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8LANV5T028990; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:23:31 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:23:31 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Rob Farmer In-Reply-To: <20100921062151.185441065695@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20100921185247.N11124@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20100921062151.185441065695@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-2120974583-1285062551=:11124" Content-ID: <20100921194926.W11124@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Cc: doug@fledge.watson.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:23:43 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-2120974583-1285062551=:11124 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: <20100921194926.W11124@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 329, Issue 2, Message: 14 On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:22:57 -0700 Rob Farmer wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 08:00, wrote: > > I think that response was not all that unreasonable. > > I'm not sure if you are referring to me or ale here. To ale@ I expect. Since I started this in response to Gary's surprise, I'd better try cleaning up a bit :) > >   3) I think (proof left to the reader) there is an apache/php package. > > There's not. There's no way to run pkg_add -r and get the > apache module (either that or it is poorly named and not found with a > search). > > And, as I understand it, at one point there was, then it changed. Well, to be fair, it was quite a long time ago. As I recall without searching back years, when php5 came out both it and php4 - which had hitherto included mod_php in the distributed package - began defaulting to not building the module, rendering php packages useless for mod_php users. I think at that point apache 1.3 was still mainstream and 2.0 was still fairly new, perhaps in devel/ .. but I might misremember. > My suggestion was to add it back via a slave port (say > lang/php5-apache). This would be *in addition* to the existing > lang/php5 port and everyone who is worried about unnecessary > dependency bloat, security, etc. would be free to keep using that. > > Supposedly, there is a reason that shipping a binary package for this > is impossible, despite the fact that every major Linux distribution > does (and thus millions of web servers run this way) and supposedly > there are many detailed descriptions of this reason in the list > archives, though I can't find any. Well, I pretty well got it from the bit of ale's albeit terse response that you haven't mentioned: "You have to comile the module for your specific apache installation." which Matthew Seaman (thanks) has since expanded on more thoroughly. [And while there's LOTS of things about Linux I don't like, Debian's excellent binary updates for both system and apps isn't one of them; except a few customised apps, we've never _had_ to compile anything] > Adding the slave port was a good faith suggestion about how to > improve the situation to meet everyone's needs. I feel it is rather > dismissive and somewhat rude just say "The answer is simply 'no'" > without any explanation. Noone disputes your good faith; I think Alex was saying 'no' to me as much as to you. Most developers rarely appear (nor have spare time to read) freebsd-questions, and it was my cc that dragged him into this. > If it has been discussed so many times (for the record, I have been > subscribed to this list for two years and have never seen such a > thread), then it shouldn't be too hard to post a link. And if the > maintainer is too busy with other work to do that, then, as I said, > don't reply and let someone else explain it. Be not too easily annoyed, to invoke the old Fidonet adage :) I've been subscribed to questions for over 12 years, and most of these discussions were much longer ago than two. I expect most such discussion would have been on ports@ and perhaps other lists many/most of us don't follow. Whether packages of just the module and the necessary updates to apache configuration to use it for each of 1.3, 2.0 and 2.2 are feasible, I don't know. I'd use one if it was there, but don't have the time nor skills necessary to make such ports myself, so I'll shutup now :) cheers, Ian --0-2120974583-1285062551=:11124-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 10:28:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC3F106566C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phanquochien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8708FC13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so7324502wyb.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:28:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GP9+fU0r/1Xhq3DQEZB9U5pqUzjppuQHvqsGyC59MfA=; b=nGAYYEqLEPfqHfFWkvgdIjZKLKa9mwJkvPuRB0d6Kbs/bNdMb1s2ESoaOuoGUXeEL3 jp08lXfdZkuP/se5KMqBd52v3h4JF1fWv0ez62HJ1/lmkiNkLvDcOEZ3R0bUjAgdzC08 8H/YjH20GQ8W99AqQhbgwW2cUSn+WZ2Bpx2bI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=AjFGONghyguyI975YovP2OEgbIaC1syR3WxjKOGmbGuIXSQSf9RM4LCNhdxqGci+m3 B/uhldDtMfPLio56ZQrkRbYjfKn8Fs/O0F1lUXzLHiUbWIigf1gNj+3xWef7nhb1l9zc Zz8gB5Ekh7Wq+USFQS6ik0zCpe6MvtVm6JEkM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.152.149 with SMTP id g21mr3061710wbw.228.1285063186993; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.154.207 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:59:46 +0700 Message-ID: From: Phan Quoc Hien To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=001485f039b2c658040490c216b7 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: sysinstall with Fixit option and RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot caused kernel panic on Vmware machine! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:28:26 -0000 --001485f039b2c658040490c216b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi everyone! I followed tut at http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/ to install FreeBSD Root on ZFS using GPT on my VMWARE virtual machine. When I go to step "Install FreeBSD to zroot" ....kernel-panic appeared! My virtual machine detail: RAM: 512MB HDD: 10GB vmware workstation: 7.1.0 build-261024 with FreeBSD 8.1-REL! See more detail about panic on image attached file. Please let me know how to solve this problem. Best regards, Mr.Hien -- Mr.Hien E-mail: phanquochien@gmail.com Website: www.mrhien.info --001485f039b2c658040490c216b7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 10:34:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D271065679 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:34:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalle.moller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784858FC0C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:34:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws2 with SMTP id 2so3182605vws.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:34:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Reatlp0gRGsgy0h8+dvO6Z1tweUhydVUGsU/0BUUgus=; b=lq75gUyuf3zhnUgnIWXtqfphEMU4cY8XqH+Be/5IOAewwJUHsmzLkQ/UWprIL2QYtN LRu3WkWTXhuwPxvFwoBqIZiO393r9Wj2LvMfkmyHeEvPKh7fxAAsSRhuvU9TGJ/u/Aiw Ef/KHXb/FzD9Va4dXXt8yg8iLDYrft3Cm+v/4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CTmrKGvYgItGm0ZBNopvueJjemVzOB6jDTffumtKcow6JkaJyRrSxH1Jb0Gzs0CjmJ c4vzmlqPj6xv5YL6573J7LIsLnE73O+T8mNNh56Z0+Fe3Eraw43i3CIMHbaWIs6vr2BA LiDT2KktISi06GB3oJUYNTtarunX6TVc7wqwM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.89.205 with SMTP id f13mr946705vcm.41.1285063699532; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.199.131 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:08:19 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Kalle_M=C3=B8ller?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Samba32 in jail (NetBIOS workgroup) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:34:06 -0000 Hi I'm trying to get samba to work in a jail (made with ezjail and alias ip). Port installed only with WINS marked in config. I can get samba up and running, I can get a client to connect login, view files etc. My problem is that my WD TV Live can't connect directly, it uses something where it looks in it workgroup and then connects via NetBIOS name. So I need help to install samba in a jail, with NetBIOS and workgroup, (login is either local users or no login) ? I don't know if I need anything else then WINS when I install it ? Any short smb.conf that would do this ? :) I can provide dumps of everything if its needed ... --=20 Med Venlig Hilsen Kalle R. M=C3=B8ller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 11:37:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D364D1065670 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844048FC1B for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:37:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so2001428gxk.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.73.3 with SMTP id v3mr10600853yba.362.1285069046504; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-077-039-064.nc.res.rr.com [71.77.39.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q38sm4721486yba.18.2010.09.21.04.37.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1A735E5480D for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:37:22 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20100921073722.49d49e98@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <201009201716.o8KHGpxf013791@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAG1BMVEX3/uPVnZf2/v9ejGkqHB74++H///+cHCT3m6cgqYvfAAACbElEQVQ4jWXTQW/bIBQAYJLJuRMn8TVCss9zTdrrXJ6bHe1Ej/bossF9EpJ3nbapf3sP8JxOQ4qV8OU9HvjBROWcYNlKHtxlQ1/huBaOBiMwQtgHhbokMLIT76Acps5hvy61+6WsjkCZzNEW0+fcQ7Nl5uoPCegjjjhN5/MEABd89k9hXkQoX6cwPIDKCt8tYG5wpmdrxAyuolTPqpiVoEpVCWvl6e00RAD4JBJQnO4lvv0O4Cnd3WUGevYNFohxFYAy7jCCtW39LaQK8BgDAgiHVinVJlCiFKlcqgEHfwb1EuG+DwFGMO3oCIuJIEYoa8KJECBB+UBldgm0MQmEGz7GQr8XYRPKzYNO1zZ8mgdAu4BG5Ke/4KFboM8458UScViAAvYD93OAsu+Bc3zxCU7ZAjT74+dQv9K7oO0d1wuscop48Pc50O5bcVwgGzh/mXzaizJuAWERh8k3eaxKmxu4kV1p2XOEg3i3c8M+EKR93P0D1KATpC55vMHaGqFf5f/AwhlrhHgg8DTezopt6I3o3Qx4q4q6YaPxK8RxcClXeFGhTTS++QR6TS/oBs7l4WhzuNMubZG6hIBkF4qqZVdWczIqSrjKVF/i4o26IP2oElBGFy5CXKSnf6UWDTC6zKSqoAvzsakjjBvdzLKnmxdhY8eRsX7VSCUBdgD1hVJpx6y2OOS1DNDILYmqdWUJ+oHvd0rRvAqX5kpxQMR6yxHzPV6VlPFyWE7LKc36keNQI64gLP8Ybgtmg+zYuBl4fuI8VqW2RqDGE8Uzu7GxGa803whDdxx3bSZbRhfQUSxvmnpLZWpRFqHz7v8AvsBe0S1zv9UAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:37:27 -0000 On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:42:22 +0200 C. P. Ghost articulated: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Robert Bonomi > wrote: > > "Adapting"  MS-Windows print drivers is not 'practical' either.  A > > windows print driver is embedd in the O/S KERNEL,  with _system_ > > calls_ (not mere 'library' routines) that implement the > > 'device-dependant' rendering of layout/formating directions.  One > > then takes the 'opaque object' so produced and sends it (via > > _another_ set of system calls) to the 'output' function of that > > same driver. > > Is that really so? How about writing some emulation shim like ndis(4) > for winprinters? Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm not a Windows > systems programmer, but this is what I'm thinking about. > > As far as I understand Windows printing, there are two aspects to > resolve, given a vendor supplied windriver binary blob: > > 1/ the windriver gets some (opaque) data from the GDI+ -- maybe > a bitmap, with some meta data. > > 2/ the windriver interprets this data however it sees fit, and then > talks to the NT kernel (maybe via DLL calls) to send electrical > impulses to the printer. > > Now, the data formats of 1/ (GDI stuff) is probably well defined (and > therefore published) in gdiplus.dll or something similar and is the > same for all windriver blobs. The API/ABI needed to talk to the NT > kernel is probably defined in the Windows DDK (or whatever it is > called nowadays). > > So, in both cases, we have stable API/ABI interfaces on both sides > of the windriver binary blob: 1/, 2/ at the upper half, and 2/ at the > bottom half. > > So, if we wanted to use those windriver blobs just like in the ndis(4) > case, all we need is an emulation shim for both interfaces. Maybe 1/ > is already covered by Wine (?) so we could borrow some code from > there; and 2/ is basically a matter of mapping the subset of NT calls > needed to read from and write to Windows ports to Unix calls to read > and write to our Unix devices. > > Again, I'm no Windows programmer, and it is probably more involved > than this. But the basic idea remains: the interfaces on both sides > of the windriver binary blobs is pretty stable and (I think) not a > secret at all. > > > In the Unix world, printing is handled _externally_ to the kernel. > > The application must have =its=own=means= of deciding what > > formatting/layout commands to use -- it _can't_ query the O/S for > > this info; the O/S simply doesn't have it. > > Well, it doesn't matter if the windriver shims run as userland daemon > or (partially) inside the kernel. The point here is that the > windriver <-> NT, and windriver <-> GDI+ interface are both stable > and not difficult to understand, so both can be emulated. At least > theoretically. In practice, it takes some time and effort to get it > right, quite obviously. The bottom line is that installing and running a printer on a Window's machine is usually far easier than on a *nix variation. Even sharing a printer on a network in a Windows environment is simpler. On a separate note, I have friends who claim that the Ubuntu printer installation routine is similar to the Window's one and works quite well for most mainstream printers. I read something a few months ago that Ubuntu was working on using Window's printer drivers directly in Ubuntu. I cannot confirm that; however, it would certainly be a worthwhile avenue to explore. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 11:44:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0524106566C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7405E8FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:44:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so2003442gwb.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.173.12 with SMTP id v12mr10843757ane.145.1285069491542; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-077-039-064.nc.res.rr.com [71.77.39.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n7sm14334669ane.21.2010.09.21.04.44.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4A448E5480D for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:44:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:44:47 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20100921074447.67cf4c61@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4C98149D.6070902@att.net> References: <4C98149D.6070902@att.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: wireless networking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:44:52 -0000 On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:12:45 -0500 William Kindler articulated: > > -- I have 2 wireless adapter that I am able to use for my system. One > is a usb device, a D-Link DWA130, and the other is a PCI device, a > Netgear WN311T. I can find no information about Linux or UNIX > support, or drivers for either, on your website or on the respective > manufacturer's sites, nor can I find out what chipsets they are using. > Are either of these devices supported with Free-BSD, or the PC-BSD? The first thing you want to determine is if they are "N" class adapters. They both appear to be so; therefore, you are pretty much SOL. FreeBSD does not readily support "N" protocol adapters unfortunately. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ He who despairs over an event is a coward, but he who holds hopes for the human condition is a fool. Albert Camus From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 12:16:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334F0106566C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:250:56ff:feb7:c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30BA8FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (w500.skogen.stillbilde.net [192.168.4.5]) (Authenticated sender: svein-listmail) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id CED0322 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:16:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C98A210.4050106@stillbilde.net> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:16:16 +0200 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail account)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201009201716.o8KHGpxf013791@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20100921073722.49d49e98@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20100921073722.49d49e98@scorpio> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0498A4191F529620B1DE678A" Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:16:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0498A4191F529620B1DE678A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21.09.2010 13:37, Jerry wrote: > The bottom line is that installing and running a printer on a Window's > machine is usually far easier than on a *nix variation. Even sharing a > printer on a network in a Windows environment is simpler. Actually ... no. Unless you are talking about the "keep HP happy by purchasing ink every week" usb-printers. Personally, for bulk printing, and even more so for intermittent printing (the kind where ink dries up and gets tossed away when you use the printer once every blue moon), most users would save a _LOT_ of money by looking at a laser printer instead. Take a good look at Xerox'es "Phaser" line (used to be tektronix phaser). 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micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/YAVx7/YUNO3mZ_gyDW8gjzk"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:59:12 -0000 --Sig_/YAVx7/YUNO3mZ_gyDW8gjzk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:16:16 +0200 Svein Skogen (Listmail account) articulated: > On 21.09.2010 13:37, Jerry wrote: > > The bottom line is that installing and running a printer on a > > Window's machine is usually far easier than on a *nix variation. > > Even sharing a printer on a network in a Windows environment is > > simpler. >=20 > Actually ... no. Unless you are talking about the "keep HP happy by > purchasing ink every week" usb-printers. >=20 > Personally, for bulk printing, and even more so for intermittent > printing (the kind where ink dries up and gets tossed away when you > use the printer once every blue moon), most users would save a _LOT_ > of money by looking at a laser printer instead. Take a good look at > Xerox'es "Phaser" line (used to be tektronix phaser). They're no > longer pawn-your-firstborn expensive, they're reliable, and they > basically speak every standard protocol on the market (including both > Postscript and PCL). 1) I was not referring specifically to HP 2) Personally, I have never had a printer connected via USB 3) I was referring to connecting a printer via a wireless connection, a very common occurrence and one I employ in my home. It is also becoming more common in business environments since it makes relocating a printer far simpler. The cheapest multi-function laser recommended by you is the Phaser 6128MFP, an obviously loss-loser. The next version is $1500. I can buy a lot of ink for that. I agree that a laser printer is fine for a business environment; however, it would be total over-kill, and a gross waste of money, to install one in my home. --=20 Jerry =E2=9C=8C FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ =46rom 0 to "what seems to be the problem officer" in 8.3 seconds. =0D Ad for the new VW Corrado --Sig_/YAVx7/YUNO3mZ_gyDW8gjzk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMmKwcAAoJEHdwsA8xwKhFtEsIAJqknGvkFf+89rpP+4NfsyJL gri8gCF/CKJ+j83UzdqPBxCMJ23qk6fXDFPkg+ipGBD8+SxY7H7sk7TpO2r7RjCv +gyMqHahbrCk3M2tALI+7dMkF9raXth8hZTLmJRLg2a+k9MA8zQXrj4Z6EqfnB9X BM41a1WhecbWXvA6N/+ZSfJfaYWgLjjg2ioiZ9KIEX8m03rYtQa5ktfqWIC9lMXu qzRh1yuwXcmlAmBW/gEV5UQFsA3lhLb4RljNjR53EI201gqVNg5GwvSB6tHfpplx njNO2NN1FKjAp0Goonj0tFrZrlg4LIK+eK9KHWO+hKvPQ1XQa5ULEXf26SS/Ndg= =ysZ5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/YAVx7/YUNO3mZ_gyDW8gjzk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 13:27:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B026E106566C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0EC8FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so6182369iwn.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:27:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=peBdJ44YnQvEeLRRQqZp4vQw446hGxJ8buhXOEaq87s=; b=fd67vovmVgwh/FFjdOkqWqm6BcUL8SBWhPjLZIpsLMBLjMVSOEX2eA/Pd0f4X8S8Nf uBxUXlXf3imfB+juLgd7P9a/yqdSQZlr0k29ly4xMWfdMtDNXAPjNB/582DzD78gR/j4 MMJ4xvKSNQMHpOhfaFcTczmNIptdLpdlKeIzU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=q3Azix8Y+whcpCCCrspGHcisD41VI5qY3lMUt3oZ9C7P8LfWR34EWj4kBLb2ndzZI8 OF753Qpe2EWA5eMV3toLuujPNPS6qkBAg2VYGsiR5Z7M8Td5Rm1c25tFuRt3Z2u+OROq zpY9qmFDOhfx8H0HXJygLqPzLtPVfbzLIbh+s= Received: by 10.231.190.203 with SMTP id dj11mr11746211ibb.93.1285074352392; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:05:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.166.193 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:05:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Zbigniew Szalbot Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:05:37 +0200 Message-ID: To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Upgrading from 8.0-Release / X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:27:41 -0000 Dear all, I hope you can advise. According to http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html once mergemaster is completed, I should issue "freebsd-update install". However, when I do this, I get: # freebsd-update install No updates are available to install. Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch' first. However, I did fetch first. 12860....12870....12880....12890....12900....12910....12920....12930....12940....12950....12960....12970 done. Applying patches... done. Fetching 440 files... done. Attempting to automatically merge changes in files... done. So I am not sure where to go from here. Should I try to fetch again, reboot or do something else? I am using FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4 (GENERIC). Thank you! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 13:37:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CE510656BC for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EC78FC1C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so987711wwc.31 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:37:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.178.130 with SMTP id f2mr9157913wem.101.1285076260929; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.216.170.7 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:37:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100920060811.GA10084@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20100921090316.GA36655@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:37:40 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: j4X6RDDL9GMPcpPUuxD8u97cH9g Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Michael Powell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache22 and threads X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:37:42 -0000 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Michael Powell wrote: > Victor Sudakov wrote: > > [snip] [...] > > The prefork mpm without threads and mod_php is a safe bet for a server that > will not be hitting the wall, traffic volume-wise. > Yeah well php sucks in any case, for many reasons that are OT to this thread. Perl / mod_perl on the other hand can work quite well with mod_worker (threads) sharing many thing including all the non-mutable data, this is because Perl in general is thread safe. Using mod_worker with mod_perl can mean the difference between serving a few hundred simultaneous request to a few thousand, on the same exact hardware. Not all Perl modules are thread safe however, and in any case most thread implementations in Unix, including FreeBSD, are a potentially leaky by nature, but you can use the MaxRequestsPerChild directive (and others) to fine-tune the growing of your processes/threads. > -Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 14:16:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB877106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao105.cox.net (fed1rmmtao105.cox.net [68.230.241.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53B08FC12 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:16:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao105.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100921141628.NBWK16314.fed1rmmtao105.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net>; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:16:28 -0400 Received: from asus64 ([72.220.91.10]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id 9SGT1f0080DQbeo04SGTw1; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:16:27 -0400 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=RFAs0e+2sU49DU7hBECFSPlG3t5ZI1He37/O2GpqT7s= c=1 sm=1 a=czRo_-E02rwA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=/nTdwXoUaSOHzX6NQnbKNQ==:17 a=AfEfcmvjAAAA:8 a=9CpqXP89AAAA:8 a=ScnXsOdMAAAA:8 a=xYxIusOxe7mOFeRxjuMA:9 a=H7-5JkRGNrZ_X2_gR9kA:7 a=wG8TlXco9-_yzSvJRj11cy2dCOkA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=2AIkAQhJ8SEA:10 a=2A2gPVWjU-cA:10 a=JZGeRQArPOEA:10 a=/nTdwXoUaSOHzX6NQnbKNQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:16:21 -0700 From: Robert To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20100921071621.0aab59e7@asus64> In-Reply-To: <20100921085858.111b004f@scorpio> References: <201009201716.o8KHGpxf013791@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20100921073722.49d49e98@scorpio> <4C98A210.4050106@stillbilde.net> <20100921085858.111b004f@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd.user@seibercom.net Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:16:29 -0000 On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:58:58 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:16:16 +0200 > Svein Skogen (Listmail account) > articulated: > > > On 21.09.2010 13:37, Jerry wrote: > > > The bottom line is that installing and running a printer on a > > > Window's machine is usually far easier than on a *nix variation. > > > Even sharing a printer on a network in a Windows environment is > > > simpler. > > > > Actually ... no. Unless you are talking about the "keep HP happy by > > purchasing ink every week" usb-printers. > > > > Personally, for bulk printing, and even more so for intermittent > > printing (the kind where ink dries up and gets tossed away when you > > use the printer once every blue moon), most users would save a _LOT_ > > of money by looking at a laser printer instead. Take a good look at > > Xerox'es "Phaser" line (used to be tektronix phaser). They're no > > longer pawn-your-firstborn expensive, they're reliable, and they > > basically speak every standard protocol on the market (including > > both Postscript and PCL). > > 1) I was not referring specifically to HP > > 2) Personally, I have never had a printer connected via USB > > 3) I was referring to connecting a printer via a wireless connection, > a very common occurrence and one I employ in my home. It is also > becoming more common in business environments since it makes > relocating a printer far simpler. > > The cheapest multi-function laser recommended by you is the Phaser > 6128MFP, an obviously loss-loser. The next version is $1500. I can buy > a lot of ink for that. I agree that a laser printer is fine for a > business environment; however, it would be total over-kill, and a > gross waste of money, to install one in my home. > A couple of years ago I got very tired of buying ink cartridges. I search and found the Samsung scx-4725fn for a very good price. Laser, network, all-in-one. It is not color but that was not a requirement for me. Just hook it up to the network and create a simple /etc/printcap and add the ip to /etc/hosts and away you go. A quick search shows it can still be purchased for under $300 US. http://computers.pricegrabber.com/printers/Samsung-SCX-4725FN-All-One/m34785285.html No CUPS needed. Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 14:33:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB0F106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from espada.jorge@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BAE8FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxn35 with SMTP id 35so2076321yxn.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:33:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JYnM5lJEfHoOl7tc1n9VFIL3f3ZOF65i8hnVZCTTw3g=; b=fFLFRHIFAW7Fo8BgyBts8USiI5yU40S0ul20FPiBvdxkppuoqtoVN7Qtpr2lLNQuTD wduge81iRRiskp1MySM2NQVXIZh455QtHhUWVEAKEq7etkyx8U7G0s8kKAUsOB7hk21r un8Zww4+2hvnWz6xvrAdJCcrHBtiWqcO60r1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=RPa/9wgJKhBb4C5Nb0XTRARDxpMw9EDQlEodJATHcc2F/5EY06whvGGckQhZRGX48Z H841Mhnk7QqptfgRgRZudg0RMcZX4m8rqXe3zD6aG8WLm38Xmqfk43Oaq3QhgNIUssik FMy26zyo6zoZxL/vgCJNTw3BhBSYmRVSvfnnM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.230.10 with SMTP id c10mr3377917ybh.54.1285078277281; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.91.21 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:11:17 -0300 Message-ID: From: jorge espada To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Intel video Driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:33:07 -0000 Hi, I installed freebsd 8.1 (gnome) on a dell vostro 3300 (i5), but the screen resolution is 800x600, when the right is 1366x768, is there any driver for VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Thanks Jorge E. Espada From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 15:01:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28D1106566C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813598FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:01:18 +0200 Message-ID: <4C98C8BE.10606@ose.nl> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:01:18 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Upgrading from 8.0-Release / X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:01:21 -0000 On 09/21/2010 03=3A05 PM=2C Zbigniew Szalbot wrote=3A =3E Dear all=2C =3E =3E I hope you can advise=2E According to =3E =3E http=3A//www=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/doc/en=5FUS=2EISO8859-1/books/handbook/upd= ating-upgrading-freebsdupdate=2Ehtml =3E =3E once mergemaster is completed=2C I should issue =22freebsd-update insta= ll=22=2E =3E =3E However=2C when I do this=2C I get=3A =3E =3E =23 freebsd-update install =3E No updates are available to install=2E =3E Run =27/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch=27 first=2E =3E =3E However=2C I did fetch first=2E =3E =3E 12860=2E=2E=2E=2E12870=2E=2E=2E=2E12880=2E=2E=2E=2E12890=2E=2E=2E=2E129= 00=2E=2E=2E=2E12910=2E=2E=2E=2E12920=2E=2E=2E=2E12930=2E=2E=2E=2E12940=2E= =2E=2E=2E12950=2E=2E=2E=2E12960=2E=2E=2E=2E12970 =3E done=2E =3E Applying patches=2E=2E=2E done=2E =3E Fetching 440 files=2E=2E=2E done=2E =3E Attempting to automatically merge changes in files=2E=2E=2E done=2E =3E =3E So I am not sure where to go from here=2E Should I try to fetch again= =2C =3E reboot or do something else=3F =3E =3E I am using FreeBSD 8=2E0-RELEASE-p4 =28GENERIC=29=2E =3E =3E Thank you! =3E =3E =20 Sure you don=27t have a freebsd-update cron running which runs a the time= just between executing freebsd-update -r 8=2E1-RELEASE + merging config files and executing freebsd-update install=3F I upgraded some boxes to 8=2E1 and did not see this problem=2E --=20 Systeembeheerder OverNite Software Europe BV Dr=2E Nolenslaan 157 6136 GM Sittard THE NETHERLANDS phone=3A +31464200933 fax=3A +31464200934 web=3A http=3A//www=2Eose=2Enl DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 15:03:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3B3106566C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE3D8FC1B for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:03:28 +0200 Message-ID: <4C98C940.6040405@ose.nl> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:03:28 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C98C8BE.10606@ose.nl> In-Reply-To: <4C98C8BE.10606@ose.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Upgrading from 8.0-Release / X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:03:30 -0000 On 09/21/2010 05=3A01 PM=2C Bas Smeelen wrote=3A =3E On 09/21/2010 03=3A05 PM=2C Zbigniew Szalbot wrote=3A =3E =20 =3E=3E Dear all=2C =3E=3E =3E=3E I hope you can advise=2E According to =3E=3E =3E=3E http=3A//www=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/doc/en=5FUS=2EISO8859-1/books/handbook/= updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate=2Ehtml =3E=3E =3E=3E once mergemaster is completed=2C I should issue =22freebsd-update in= stall=22=2E =3E=3E =3E=3E However=2C when I do this=2C I get=3A =3E=3E =3E=3E =23 freebsd-update install =3E=3E No updates are available to install=2E =3E=3E Run =27/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch=27 first=2E =3E=3E =3E=3E However=2C I did fetch first=2E =3E=3E =3E=3E 12860=2E=2E=2E=2E12870=2E=2E=2E=2E12880=2E=2E=2E=2E12890=2E=2E=2E=2E= 12900=2E=2E=2E=2E12910=2E=2E=2E=2E12920=2E=2E=2E=2E12930=2E=2E=2E=2E12940= =2E=2E=2E=2E12950=2E=2E=2E=2E12960=2E=2E=2E=2E12970 =3E=3E done=2E =3E=3E Applying patches=2E=2E=2E done=2E =3E=3E Fetching 440 files=2E=2E=2E done=2E =3E=3E Attempting to automatically merge changes in files=2E=2E=2E done=2E= =3E=3E =3E=3E So I am not sure where to go from here=2E Should I try to fetch agai= n=2C =3E=3E reboot or do something else=3F =3E=3E =3E=3E I am using FreeBSD 8=2E0-RELEASE-p4 =28GENERIC=29=2E =3E=3E =3E=3E Thank you! =3E=3E =3E=3E =20 =3E=3E =20 =3E Sure you don=27t have a freebsd-update cron running which runs a the ti= me =3E just between executing freebsd-update -r 8=2E1-RELEASE + merging config= =3E files and executing freebsd-update install=3F =3E I upgraded some boxes to 8=2E1 and did not see this problem=2E =3E =3E =20 Sorry=2C meant between =27freebsd-update -r 8=2E1-RELEASE upgrade=27 and =27freebsd-update install=27 DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 15:43:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9345D1065670 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403E98FC1C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:43:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2601E6DD; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:43:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8LFhLiV001498; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:43:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:43:21 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "C. P. Ghost" Message-Id: <20100921174321.ee8d55ef.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <201009201716.o8KHGpxf013791@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:43:24 -0000 On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:42:22 +0200, "C. P. Ghost" wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > Is that really so? How about writing some emulation shim like ndis(4) for > winprinters? Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm not a Windows systems > programmer, but this is what I'm thinking about. One big problem is that "Windows" doesn't equal "Windows". I had customers who intendedly bought some printer, then needed to switch to another "Windows", and then found their printer useless as there was no specific driver available anymore. Creating compatibility layers for printer drivers that do not care about compatibility at all is like shooting a moving target. As I am not a "Windows" person, I could only imagine that this would be much more difficult than printer manufacturers (who sit "at the source") agreeing to simply use an existing and documented standard. > So, in both cases, we have stable API/ABI interfaces on both sides > of the windriver binary blob: 1/, 2/ at the upper half, and 2/ at the bottom > half. I really doubt about a "stable interface", or situations as described above wouldn't have happened. > So, if we wanted to use those windriver blobs just like in the ndis(4) > case, all we need is an emulation shim for both interfaces. Maybe 1/ is > already covered by Wine (?) so we could borrow some code from there; > and 2/ is basically a matter of mapping the subset of NT calls needed > to read from and write to Windows ports to Unix calls to read and write > to our Unix devices. Keep in mind there are stupid things in the world as patents, intelellectual property, licensing fees and copyrighted secret codes. At the moment there was a program (or any other kind of facility) that makes Winprinters accessible by *ANY* OS (not only FreeBSD, but maybe all BSDs and Linusi and Solaris and who knows what else), MICROS~1 would start violently screaming as someone is eating from their cake. Keep in mind that Winprinters are an important target platform for home users who PAY for "Windows" and PAY for a "compatible" printer. They pay once every two years or so. MICROS~1 and the printer manufacturers can't stand it if one uses their products too long, as long-term use does imply NO FURTHER SALES. And now imagine that a user can fully use all features of a formerly-Winprinter all-in-one ink pee copier scanner fax machine - where would be his need to buy a "Windows" to do that as he can now use FreeBSD for free? Of course, this consideration is very far away from any technical understanding - as typical for lawpersons who make money from bullshit. :-) > But the basic idea remains: the interfaces on both sides of the > windriver binary blobs is pretty stable and (I think) not a secret at all. In that case, I would ask myself: Why hasn't it been done already? If your assumption was right, it would already work. As it currently does not work, I would check your assumption. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 15:54:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608201065675 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200BB8FC15 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A991ED2E; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:54:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8LFsOZL001523; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:54:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:54:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Message-Id: <20100921175424.1fcf9a58.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100921085858.111b004f@scorpio> References: <201009201716.o8KHGpxf013791@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20100921073722.49d49e98@scorpio> <4C98A210.4050106@stillbilde.net> <20100921085858.111b004f@scorpio> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:54:26 -0000 On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:58:58 -0400, Jerry wrote: > The cheapest multi-function laser recommended by you is the Phaser > 6128MFP, an obviously loss-loser. The next version is $1500. I can buy > a lot of ink for that. I agree that a laser printer is fine for a > business environment; however, it would be total over-kill, and a gross > waste of money, to install one in my home. This depends on what you're printing at home. If you mostly use it for B/W text and graphics, buying a used (!) office-class laser printer is cheaper than buying some ink-pee home consumer device. Keep in mind that you can *not use* the laser printer for some time without problems, but if you *not use* an ink-pee printer for some time, it will dry out the ink and maybe damage the printing heads (if separate), or even let the ink flow through the printer. I have seen that already - very unpleasant. Instead, office-class laser printers are more efficient in use of good refurbished toner cartridges. I'm using a HP Laserjet 4 for example as a "copying center" (low-end computer, parallel scanner, parallel printer). The last time I bought a toner cartridge was in 2004, and right now, it's starting to fade. I'm using this system VERY often. The printer itself is more than 15 years in my hands now, and I HEAVILY used it. You simply can't break good printers. But if you require photo-printing, maybe on specific papers, or you need a device for making colored copies, using a typical home consumer device is often the better solution. When I need digital photos printed out, I take the data to the drugstore as they can do much better (and water-resistant!) than ink-pee. A TODAY's office-class laser printer surely looks like overkill for a home setting, I agree here. But keep in mind used ones are also good - IF they are good. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 16:00:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56425106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16ECB8FC19 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B6E1ED2C; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:00:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8LG0BOE001567; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:00:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:00:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Message-Id: <20100921180011.9159676d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100921073722.49d49e98@scorpio> References: <201009201716.o8KHGpxf013791@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20100921073722.49d49e98@scorpio> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:00:13 -0000 On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:37:22 -0400, Jerry wrote: > The bottom line is that installing and running a printer on a Window's > machine is usually far easier than on a *nix variation. Even sharing a > printer on a network in a Windows environment is simpler. But much more expensive, and especially if we're talking networked settings, more complicated to manage (think about offices for example), which makes it more expensive again (support). Additionally, using ink-pee printers in office settings usually is considered a no-go, as it is very unprofessional, inefficient, and did I mention it? Expensive. :-) > On a separate note, I have friends who claim that the Ubuntu printer > installation routine is similar to the Window's one and works quite well > for most mainstream printers. I read something a few months ago that > Ubuntu was working on using Window's printer drivers directly in Ubuntu. > I cannot confirm that; however, it would certainly be a worthwhile > avenue to explore. That sounds interesting. Users coming from a "Windows" background could then easily put in the printer CD (if they didn't throw it away already) and install drivers. Of course, that's not how UNIX does things - here, all the things you need to interact with hardware are provided by the OS ideally, or by packages you can install if needed - with less forced inter- action. But that's reality, not a happy UNIX dreamland where you would just plug in the printer and let the kernel and userland deamons make it available for printing and scanning immediately. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 16:03:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0491D106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B838F8FC19 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AD51ED3A; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:03:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8LG3dJp001583; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:03:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:03:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Robert Message-Id: <20100921180338.5685f159.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100921071621.0aab59e7@asus64> References: <201009201716.o8KHGpxf013791@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20100921073722.49d49e98@scorpio> <4C98A210.4050106@stillbilde.net> <20100921085858.111b004f@scorpio> <20100921071621.0aab59e7@asus64> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD , freebsd.user@seibercom.net Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:03:41 -0000 On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:16:21 -0700, Robert wrote: > A couple of years ago I got very tired of buying ink cartridges. I > search and found the Samsung scx-4725fn for a very good price. Laser, > network, all-in-one. It is not color but that was not a requirement for > me. > > Just hook it up to the network and create a simple /etc/printcap and > add the ip to /etc/hosts and away you go. So THAT's what I call handling it easily. As the printer (!!!) does take care of the most things, it's easy to install it as everything you need is to make it known to your network and write a line into /etc/printcap. The HP Laserjet 4000 duplex I have at home (yes, it's true) also has a built-in printer server, so programs like lpq and lprm can query the printer queue INSIDE THE PRINTER. That's a very nice feature for office settings as there is no need to buy a PC and a "Windows" to make a printer server. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 16:28:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5EA1065670 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:28:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from indexer@internode.on.net) Received: from mail.internode.on.net (bld-mail13.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315898FC21 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mai.dhcp.chocolate.lan (unverified [203.122.194.109]) by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 40017456-1927428 for multiple; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:58:56 +0930 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Indexer In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:58:50 +0930 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Phan Quoc Hien X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.2.3 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall with Fixit option and RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot caused kernel panic on Vmware machine! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:28:58 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 21/09/2010, at 7:29 PM, Phan Quoc Hien wrote: > Hi everyone! >=20 > I followed tut at http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/ to = install > FreeBSD Root on ZFS using GPT on my VMWARE virtual machine. > When I go to step "Install FreeBSD to zroot" ....kernel-panic = appeared! It sounds like you are either low on ram, or are using i386. Look at = http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide and follow the steps here in the = loader prompt on the live system, and also add the same options to your = loader.conf when you install the system.=20 > My virtual machine detail: > RAM: 512MB HDD: 10GB vmware workstation: 7.1.0 build-261024 with = FreeBSD > 8.1-REL! > See more detail about panic on image attached file. > Please let me know how to solve this problem. > Best regards, > Mr.Hien >=20 >=20 Hope this helps you. I think buwping the amount of ram in your VM = wouldnt hurt either, ZFS really needs 1GB minimum, 2GB or more is = preferred iirc. >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mr.Hien > E-mail: phanquochien@gmail.com > Website: www.mrhien.info > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" William Brown pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMmN1FAAoJEHF16AnLoz6JYiMP/3xU6a3pd90kEsWIOgaWfQZ5 ff0tCYdMoMTmIZ9zgB7u7/YA7kIEp4o7zM8MbYPRt8OcC+9oWQBjbCvVeKXLEOil 6faRrYR3CxBSa1CIUxTsfPS3OR3rOB8GlTMJObW/UrOPonVgpyD6RMW/J3wMbme9 pN0V2xOSwOv9rgdFWwHgAOT4eBpzmFeOAbLERFMcv3sUm2l1k56IUpgEDQNoHVPY wp8Cxsl8QClP5bTpl2iSXvt0krCvo16HA64G4I1Bm6FSAY/aP45L5zouABHyHyIT RCZjTzCaaWHHXvwErAdQfx6oBFuyAxzwgb1ZRdYMDoFHs1swJd3D0pWIYcjQ9ILz 3AR1YFY5t1SE+kP03Fssoz/HNpq2lO3IgjJsg/T8bsMEbb2/6zJlCKF5wAsMZHdY 1kj+75IsZ+phbzaPrpdL8kjfTWBP1De3WWH7sN85wGAw2c1mQCFLg9bsC2Ahxe1V S/kRWwKDoJPvBaEEdo5LM7CLfoneXOR3taa3mqLvgkWAwyTG0iEtwwxhxMMFSmpp InMWYplq/zu4au27+ujW+f6Mj3GhpSzaMNAfGkGdpsn4D4muBWgrLt04nSxuvjX6 K3ZoGAMlnH9rOLwZLvu2uaxKGZnyf/TYndgPQtpNm3iq7liXoSYnNl3B4NeNjI7j l5wz40a62K6b2J/G/cIa =3D6/hT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 16:22:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F10106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freax.geek@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913568FC16 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so1923706fxm.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:22:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=B6iL7eeDublBEjy49WFE9N7O+LmWRUP9S7u2pZWGgOM=; b=TwJdHpd645TMQfdGSg2pSMYSmA5DCqT2fnepq2Kf5itohvMToMVRMyVpdGckGkA0xN M85HYfhzmKpSf/ChotzK40sUWIi28JIAhEwgWDNiY1pRi/AfnU15ZXMAlbKfYJij1H2b T+ebLB3pMDiBxYZkdtKloc9gUgDfNBKb9dzaI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kuczLBLeEcDzOmNLui+XLbHeH/vfRVJhTXeXtRKDdSlIMDu4UC5WOPOuC07YF3AgoH /lfmtgms769k3On7Gkw/bSxkxIKWmqGAzSgX9VN0EiVSaeadFbDNSKyLMX65STvXlvX0 2yip1NXiJRoZSC78Pxn4G5zU+s+91QuPv/ZLM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.102.219.16 with SMTP id r16mr755016mug.101.1285084456396; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.200.131 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:54:15 +0200 Message-ID: From: Ben GUILLER To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:29:43 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: man.cgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:22:33 -0000 Hello, I am making an online man, and I would like to know where could I find the man.cgi script, in order to use it. Could you help me to find it ? Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 16:39:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA1A106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:39:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2138FC1A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:39:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21242 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2010 16:39:44 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Sep 2010 16:39:44 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 5FEF95084D; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:39:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Ben GUILLER References: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:39:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Ben GUILLER's message of "Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:54:15 +0200") Message-ID: <44r5gnuk35.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: man.cgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:39:45 -0000 Ben GUILLER writes: > I am making an online man, and I would like to know where could I find the > man.cgi script, in order to use it. > Could you help me to find it ? > Try: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/www/en/cgi/man.cgi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 16:57:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE0D106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@stringsutils.com) Received: from manuel.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A276E8FC08 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shelca (zoraida.natserv.net [66.114.65.147]) by manuel.natserv.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD343F447 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:39:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: http://www.courier-mta.org/cone/ From: Francisco Reyes To: Free BSD Questions list Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:39:52 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: portsnap2.freebsd.org corrupt files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:57:13 -0000 portsnap fetch Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap2.freebsd.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Updating from Mon Sep 20 21:17:39 EDT 2010 to Tue Sep 21 10:05:03 EDT 2010. Fetching 1 metadata patches. done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 1 metadata files... gunzip: (stdin): unexpected end of file metadata is corrupt. If I change the server to portsnap1.freebsd.org it goes through without errors. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 16:59:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A62106567A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:59:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB738FC24 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:59:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so2133701gxk.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:59:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=7WtWDITJqaHXZzu1ka5DmywMQpBIy+S2vfDnyrhMcrE=; b=Qy3QIONOWij5GIE8sFhxY4Le20AM7QNmlSHcBAzXaGO858sUW12bIZYz3EVouAYm8x qRreR66S28BE98gxH2eeptrk5GT7EY+vFqT8oYBpROUxfKstY/AnErO5/LgZmSUUqSdY OoMg6WTMq7cCksAu45lmwc8nbKono9rZ5Vov0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=gTQeQUNzLOrFNsvsIOslNekDkFMPG6zfSHCySrNHuect2pxiyKkaF4QTw3xGR0xHeb 8TxtyoW6IoZ83o6H7MFYJIhiXJRCvZ3OpsN8OifsdDDVzStSJhpNaOGcrVaFfSgdusVm XCj+j1A/yO+1d8Xd3dv1rZkdJXQ0mnalP5e4o= Received: by 10.150.95.19 with SMTP id s19mr11181119ybb.143.1285088387730; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:59:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.166.193 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:59:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C98C88A.80503@ose.nl> References: <4C98C88A.80503@ose.nl> From: Zbigniew Szalbot Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:59:32 +0200 Message-ID: To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: Upgrading from 8.0-Release / X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:59:49 -0000 Hello, > Sure you don't have a freebsd-update cron running which runs a the time > just between executing freebsd-update -r 8.1-RELEASE + merging config > files and executing freebsd-update install? > I upgraded some boxes to 8.1 and did not see this problem. No. Nothing automated. That's why I am surprised and not sure what to do next. Do you think I should try to invoke the upgrade (-r 8.1-RELEASE upgrade) command again? -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 17:05:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1B81065783 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f200.google.com (mail-gy0-f200.google.com [209.85.160.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D1A8FC13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:05:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyh20 with SMTP id 20so7811973gyh.7 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:05:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.194.195 with SMTP id dz3mr302453vcb.25.1285087304932; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:41:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <90e6ba4883cb50e1500490c7b441@google.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:41:44 +0000 From: vrwmiller@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Media Packages Vs. Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:05:26 -0000 Hi all, I am performing PXE boots and automated installs of FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE with a custom sysinstall.cfg file which identifies packages that are to be installed in addition to the distributions. We have need to install compat6x-amd64 and I'd like to have this done during install. Unfortunately, it does not appear that this package exists in the FreeBSD media from which the install occurs. However, it is available through the ports collection. What is the relationship between the packages directory on the media and the ports collection? Is there a process that identifies what ports are made available in the packages directory of the media? Is it possible to take a port, make a package of it and put it in the packages directory of my own media? --Rick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 17:36:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772EB1065672 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0D18FC1C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so4479382qyk.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:36:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.59.91 with SMTP id k27mr7204323qah.177.1285090561552; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.98.199 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:36:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.61.181] In-Reply-To: <20100921174321.ee8d55ef.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <201009201716.o8KHGpxf013791@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20100921174321.ee8d55ef.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:36:00 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:36:03 -0000 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:42:22 +0200, "C. P. Ghost" wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> Is that really so? How about writing some emulation shim like ndis(4) for >> winprinters? Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm not a Windows systems >> programmer, but this is what I'm thinking about. > > One big problem is that "Windows" doesn't equal "Windows". I had > customers who intendedly bought some printer, then needed to switch > to another "Windows", and then found their printer useless as there > was no specific driver available anymore. Creating compatibility > layers for printer drivers that do not care about compatibility at > all is like shooting a moving target. As I am not a "Windows" person, > I could only imagine that this would be much more difficult than > printer manufacturers (who sit "at the source") agreeing to simply > use an existing and documented standard. So I assume that the binary blobs of those winprinters are different for different versions of Windows. So there would be two (or three?) set of interfaces to emulate instead of just one. >> So, in both cases, we have stable API/ABI interfaces on both sides >> of the windriver binary blob: 1/, 2/ at the upper half, and 2/ at the bottom >> half. > > I really doubt about a "stable interface", or situations as described > above wouldn't have happened. The stable interface is likely tied to one specific Windows release: say, one for XP and one for Windows 7. Since most winprinters are supposed to (still) run on XP, they come with an XP windriver blob, and that's all what matters w.r.t. interface stability. >> So, if we wanted to use those windriver blobs just like in the ndis(4) >> case, all we need is an emulation shim for both interfaces. Maybe 1/ is >> already covered by Wine (?) so we could borrow some code from there; >> and 2/ is basically a matter of mapping the subset of NT calls needed >> to read from and write to Windows ports to Unix calls to read and write >> to our Unix devices. > > Keep in mind there are stupid things in the world as patents, > intelellectual property, licensing fees and copyrighted secret > codes. Yes, that's indeed the real problem. A legal, not a technical one. > At the moment there was a program (or any other kind of > facility) that makes Winprinters accessible by *ANY* OS (not > only FreeBSD, but maybe all BSDs and Linusi and Solaris and > who knows what else), MICROS~1 would start violently screaming > as someone is eating from their cake. Keep in mind that Winprinters > are an important target platform for home users who PAY for > "Windows" and PAY for a "compatible" printer. They pay once > every two years or so. MICROS~1 and the printer manufacturers > can't stand it if one uses their products too long, as long-term > use does imply NO FURTHER SALES. And now imagine that a user > can fully use all features of a formerly-Winprinter all-in-one > ink pee copier scanner fax machine - where would be his need to > buy a "Windows" to do that as he can now use FreeBSD for free? As far as I understand this, Microsoft doesn't manufacture those winprinters, so why would they screem if those printers were able to run on other platform too? You can even see it the other way: for every winprinter manufactured (or, more precisely, for every windriver sold), Microsoft may get a fixed share due to patent royalties from the manufacturer. So, suppose a manufacturer sells more of his winprinters to BSD/Linux/Solaris/... folks because we had this shim, it would translate to more patent royalties to Microsoft too. So it is in Microsoft's interest not only NOT to kick and scream, but actually to encourage those winprinters by publishing the needed interfaces. It can only increase sales, and they will get more kickbacks from those additional sales. > Of course, this consideration is very far away from any technical > understanding - as typical for lawpersons who make money from > bullshit. :-) That's for sure. ;-) >> But the basic idea remains: the interfaces on both sides of the >> windriver binary blobs is pretty stable and (I think) not a secret at all. > > In that case, I would ask myself: Why hasn't it been done already? > If your assumption was right, it would already work. As it currently > does not work, I would check your assumption. :-) I don't know why it hasn't been done up to now. After all, this is nothing but an exercise in mapping one set of interfaces onto another set of interfaces. We've done this kind of interface matching with with the Linuxulator, NDIS is another good example, and the Wine guys are doing a great job too. I fail to see a compelling TECHNICAL reason why Windows drivers in general (and windrivers in particular) couldn't be docked to Unix systems. Of course, legal reasons are a different matter. > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 16:40:34 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489C9106566C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:40:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freax.geek@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA678FC19 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7so1929316pzk.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:40:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Vqf6il8g1KXK8V9X7c8AsUicdm8FHOEdbQnRiZu0sQU=; b=uhZCZk3kOkWgVCQ6Xnnw96lcgoCOuIeX6/Zp1SpDRxyiRna9ia0Mo9kThq74R/wWx8 dmFHbScRl/RdcXyCmfcYCBjfnaX8tWSgukfQLwQRoozXaVKvm4wZTjxNE5ISrJZ0l++1 K+gfaWuW+cOvqC2TjgwJ5ziXGm/fERPi+VRJU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MiuUgrwfVgbsFQnCA6LovRZWombBfcJ8MJKLVsAk4Hv1aVs050LCiE1Rsjdn1LYkV3 v8+yrrRJF7hJWsIOJ1utqrt2ulsIWcxvWjdlcEeO5cmKJ5mAJPdK1Lw9HLFUz1fk0DmF 0Py/6PTwKjMwPS/hJflaqcITT7se2om566kPo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.133.18 with SMTP id g18mr12262889wad.48.1285087233582; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.200.131 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:40:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44r5gnuk35.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <44r5gnuk35.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:40:33 +0200 Message-ID: From: Ben GUILLER To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:44:47 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: man.cgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:40:34 -0000 Thank you very much, that was what I was looking for. 2010/9/21 Lowell Gilbert > Ben GUILLER writes: > > > I am making an online man, and I would like to know where could I find > the > > man.cgi script, in order to use it. > > Could you help me to find it ? > > > > Try: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/www/en/cgi/man.cgi > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 17:47:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F821065670 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:47:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0808FC12 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75D81E9F9; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:47:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8LHlSZe001987; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:47:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:47:27 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "C. P. Ghost" Message-Id: <20100921194727.a681186d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <201009201716.o8KHGpxf013791@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20100921174321.ee8d55ef.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:47:32 -0000 On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:36:00 +0200, "C. P. Ghost" wrote: > > At the moment there was a program (or any other kind of > > facility) that makes Winprinters accessible by *ANY* OS (not > > only FreeBSD, but maybe all BSDs and Linusi and Solaris and > > who knows what else), MICROS~1 would start violently screaming > > as someone is eating from their cake. Keep in mind that Winprinters > > are an important target platform for home users who PAY for > > "Windows" and PAY for a "compatible" printer. They pay once > > every two years or so. MICROS~1 and the printer manufacturers > > can't stand it if one uses their products too long, as long-term > > use does imply NO FURTHER SALES. And now imagine that a user > > can fully use all features of a formerly-Winprinter all-in-one > > ink pee copier scanner fax machine - where would be his need to > > buy a "Windows" to do that as he can now use FreeBSD for free? > > As far as I understand this, Microsoft doesn't manufacture those > winprinters, so why would they screem if those printers were able > to run on other platform too? Very simple: Whenever you are using FreeBSD (or any other operating system that is not "Windows"), you are NOT using "Windows". MICROS~1's monopoly is based upon three pillars: Mind share, usage share, and in conclusion, market share. That again is what matters to printer manufacturers, as they are told the "secret keys" about how to make their printer work on "Windows". > You can even see it the other way: for every winprinter manufactured > (or, more precisely, for every windriver sold), Microsoft may get a > fixed share due to patent royalties from the manufacturer. So, suppose > a manufacturer sells more of his winprinters to BSD/Linux/Solaris/... > folks because we had this shim, it would translate to more patent > royalties to Microsoft too. That's not logical as the package, the shiny box on the shelf that the customer wants, already contains a CD (or today, a DVD) with drivers for "Windows", as this is the PC, and there's nothing else. Users of non-"Windows" operating systems are a niche market that does not persist in the scope of manufacturers. They are happy selling more and more cheap units (than fewer more expensive units). For them and for MICROS~1 it's a win-win situation, as the customer always pays. > So it is in Microsoft's interest not only NOT > to kick and scream, but actually to encourage those winprinters > by publishing the needed interfaces. It can only increase sales, and > they will get more kickbacks from those additional sales. Insignificant amounts, does not pay. The MICROS~1 concept of software ecosystems does not tolerate anything "different". Keep in mind the three pillars mentioned before - they would be in danger. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 17:50:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C18F1065670 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D688FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:50:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B61A736D8; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:50:21 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <44r5gnuk35.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.18; tzolkin = 1 Etznab; haab = 11 Chen Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:50:21 -0700 In-Reply-To: <44r5gnuk35.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> (Lowell Gilbert's message of "Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:39:42 -0400") Message-ID: <867hifasv6.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Ben GUILLER Subject: Re: man.cgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:50:23 -0000 >>>>> "Lowell" == Lowell Gilbert writes: Lowell> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/www/en/cgi/man.cgi Wow. *Ancient* Perl code. I should contribute a rewrite to modern Perl. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 18:21:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B7E1065670 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:21:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1A98FC13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 97-126-31-96.tukw.qwest.net ([97.126.31.96] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oy7LK-0004iw-AV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:13:27 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:21:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:21:40 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100921182140.GF39824@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="it/zdz3K1bH9Y8/E" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: Intel video Driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:21:46 -0000 --it/zdz3K1bH9Y8/E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth jorge espada on Tuesday, 21 September 2010: > Hi, I installed freebsd 8.1 (gnome) on a dell vostro 3300 (i5), but the > screen resolution is 800x600, when the right is 1366x768, is there any > driver for VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor > Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) > Thanks >=20 > Jorge E. Espada > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" Can you post the output of=20 pciconf -lv I think you may be waiting for the same update to xf86-video-intel that I am. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --it/zdz3K1bH9Y8/E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMmPezAAoJEIpckszW26+R1QYH/RMj0fsys2pB6VEJJjDFgKHQ Zehy3InTiReCxMye6KIZuk7mELc+IKfe5NPF8NEzJxag9hRIWNWLapYRwKxouLaL MgPw9V4CpGG3O3p1ORbY5HzEy6QUFqj/m6Kidxv/XoOiUG0UzQVg5ND4I0Qp34yj uwHthDHW9dHrc8MmnA1f5ol0DqNdNcuhR79sCjPARYyIyhaHNlEHjHKAHPni4dF8 Ql+dVzib8Y1q1HwGc/oJZp0IFf/YhlOo6Z8odhIny8AcuhZK/zkerzldjcMc9WCr 0WIkKNrJJRUfKSwned38kX7XMGcyudoMlFlVz07U/FX1fKOwRMrIWG2QdGHs4Pc= =f+rc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --it/zdz3K1bH9Y8/E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 18:43:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F223C106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:43:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9781A8FC17 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so2168625gyg.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.41.9 with SMTP id o9mr11532120ano.240.1285094622262; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-077-039-064.nc.res.rr.com [71.77.39.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x19sm14793992anc.5.2010.09.21.11.43.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D3D43E5480D for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:43:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:43:29 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20100921144329.62d6b50b@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/lqpPtlmSbogltxe0E=Sihs9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:43:44 -0000 --Sig_/lqpPtlmSbogltxe0E=Sihs9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:47:27 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:36:00 +0200, "C. P. Ghost" > wrote: > > > At the moment there was a program (or any other kind of > > > facility) that makes Winprinters accessible by *ANY* OS (not > > > only FreeBSD, but maybe all BSDs and Linusi and Solaris and > > > who knows what else), MICROS~1 would start violently screaming > > > as someone is eating from their cake. Keep in mind that > > > Winprinters are an important target platform for home users who > > > PAY for "Windows" and PAY for a "compatible" printer. They pay > > > once every two years or so. MICROS~1 and the printer manufacturers > > > can't stand it if one uses their products too long, as long-term > > > use does imply NO FURTHER SALES. And now imagine that a user > > > can fully use all features of a formerly-Winprinter all-in-one > > > ink pee copier scanner fax machine - where would be his need to > > > buy a "Windows" to do that as he can now use FreeBSD for free? > >=20 > > As far as I understand this, Microsoft doesn't manufacture those > > winprinters, so why would they screem if those printers were able > > to run on other platform too? >=20 > Very simple: Whenever you are using FreeBSD (or any other operating > system that is not "Windows"), you are NOT using "Windows". >=20 > MICROS~1's monopoly is based upon three pillars: Mind share, usage > share, and in conclusion, market share. That again is what matters > to printer manufacturers, as they are told the "secret keys" about > how to make their printer work on "Windows". There is no "secret key" mindset involved. Peruse the MSDN and and you will find tons of documentation on designing and writing drivers for virtually anything you can imagine that is currently available on the Window's platform. It is to Microsoft's advantage to have as many products as possible operational on their platform. They even have specialized forums to answer technical questions regard driver development. > > You can even see it the other way: for every winprinter manufactured > > (or, more precisely, for every windriver sold), Microsoft may get a > > fixed share due to patent royalties from the manufacturer. So, > > suppose a manufacturer sells more of his winprinters to > > BSD/Linux/Solaris/... folks because we had this shim, it would > > translate to more patent royalties to Microsoft too. I have not been able to locate any documentation that that would substantiate your claim that Microsoft receives any reimbursement/compensation from device manufacturers. Would you please post the source of your claim. =20 > That's not logical as the package, the shiny box on the shelf that > the customer wants, already contains a CD (or today, a DVD) with > drivers for "Windows", as this is the PC, and there's nothing else. > Users of non-"Windows" operating systems are a niche market that > does not persist in the scope of manufacturers. They are happy > selling more and more cheap units (than fewer more expensive units). > For them and for MICROS~1 it's a win-win situation, as the customer > always pays. Printer manufacturers, or manufacturers of other devices for that matter, sell what the public wants. The public in general wants inexpensive printers. I can guarantee you that if there were no market for it, it would not be offered. I know several users with $50 printers that are used only a few time a month or less. Purchasing a more expensive unit would not be cost effective. Everyone does not need a $2000+ laser printer. Manufacturers are smart enough to fill that niche. > > So it is in Microsoft's interest not only NOT > > to kick and scream, but actually to encourage those winprinters > > by publishing the needed interfaces. It can only increase sales, and > > they will get more kickbacks from those additional sales. >=20 > Insignificant amounts, does not pay. The MICROS~1 concept of software > ecosystems does not tolerate anything "different". Keep in mind the > three pillars mentioned before - they would be in danger. Keep in mind that you have failed to produce one shred of documentation to back up your claim of "kickbacks". --=20 Jerry =E2=9C=8C FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ --Sig_/lqpPtlmSbogltxe0E=Sihs9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMmPzbAAoJEHdwsA8xwKhFwl4H/iaOgze0++YHuCkRiKfDFf3L olRXMiScPmCL/u8vfpcJoLtaR5Ib1RFYXXEXzW2V2P3qD06BIUvq2T7boJMR63PL HlnPSHRmBG6eq7klpM6d2Cb2z4v5iZjhvb1A+zYAtxxQfMTvsxc8q1NV0Qgld2Ts FYLou/OiOcVSp2zP6vdR+urAry2otWtn6XVnrITrlu+ia9BQ7djGZK66RVefdzHK e68yOH0mQOBlToBfYumPp/nmGNEGSQZV5hET2Q46M6Jip8VwMkFk+p8npecN1H6g AIAxEOT48uMuX8i58px/mFzVq7JfjzdIh47vvgjRJ50no3iEl4ft8HdXRMki+PQ= =O71Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/lqpPtlmSbogltxe0E=Sihs9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 19:11:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DCA1065672 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0808FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:11:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so5152709qwg.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:11:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.236.213 with SMTP id kl21mr7592134qcb.120.1285096280427; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.98.199 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:11:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.61.181] In-Reply-To: <20100921144329.62d6b50b@scorpio> References: <20100921144329.62d6b50b@scorpio> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:11:20 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:11:21 -0000 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:47:27 +0200 > Polytropon articulated: > >> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:36:00 +0200, "C. P. Ghost" >> wrote: >> > > At the moment there was a program (or any other kind of >> > > facility) that makes Winprinters accessible by *ANY* OS (not >> > > only FreeBSD, but maybe all BSDs and Linusi and Solaris and >> > > who knows what else), MICROS~1 would start violently screaming >> > > as someone is eating from their cake. Keep in mind that >> > > Winprinters are an important target platform for home users who >> > > PAY for "Windows" and PAY for a "compatible" printer. They pay >> > > once every two years or so. MICROS~1 and the printer manufacturers >> > > can't stand it if one uses their products too long, as long-term >> > > use does imply NO FURTHER SALES. And now imagine that a user >> > > can fully use all features of a formerly-Winprinter all-in-one >> > > ink pee copier scanner fax machine - where would be his need to >> > > buy a "Windows" to do that as he can now use FreeBSD for free? >> > >> > As far as I understand this, Microsoft doesn't manufacture those >> > winprinters, so why would they screem if those printers were able >> > to run on other platform too? >> >> Very simple: Whenever you are using FreeBSD (or any other operating >> system that is not "Windows"), you are NOT using "Windows". >> >> MICROS~1's monopoly is based upon three pillars: Mind share, usage >> share, and in conclusion, market share. That again is what matters >> to printer manufacturers, as they are told the "secret keys" about >> how to make their printer work on "Windows". > > There is no "secret key" mindset involved. Peruse the MSDN and and you > will find tons of documentation on designing and writing drivers for > virtually anything you can imagine that is currently available on the > Window's platform. It is to Microsoft's advantage to have as many > products as possible operational on their platform. They even have > specialized forums to answer technical questions regard driver > development. That's exactly my point. Their interfaces are NOT closed or secret, and we could (technically) implement against those interfaces. >> > You can even see it the other way: for every winprinter manufactured >> > (or, more precisely, for every windriver sold), Microsoft may get a >> > fixed share due to patent royalties from the manufacturer. So, >> > suppose a manufacturer sells more of his winprinters to >> > BSD/Linux/Solaris/... folks because we had this shim, it would >> > translate to more patent royalties to Microsoft too. > > I have not been able to locate any documentation that that would > substantiate your claim that Microsoft receives any > reimbursement/compensation from device manufacturers. Would you please > post the source of your claim. I wrote "Microsoft *may* get a fixed share ...", not "Microsoft gets a fixed share..." That's an assumption, but probably a safe one, due to the way software pate= nts work. Maybe they get paid, or maybe not: it's their decision. Details may (or may not) be included in the Windows DDK EULAs and associated documents. >> That's not logical as the package, the shiny box on the shelf that >> the customer wants, already contains a CD (or today, a DVD) with >> drivers for "Windows", as this is the PC, and there's nothing else. >> Users of non-"Windows" operating systems are a niche market that >> does not persist in the scope of manufacturers. They are happy >> selling more and more cheap units (than fewer more expensive units). >> For them and for MICROS~1 it's a win-win situation, as the customer >> always pays. > > Printer manufacturers, or manufacturers of other devices for that > matter, sell what the public wants. The public in general wants > inexpensive printers. I can guarantee you that if there were no market > for it, it would not be offered. I know several users with $50 printers > that are used only a few time a month or less. Purchasing a more > expensive unit would not be cost effective. Everyone does not need a > $2000+ laser printer. Manufacturers are smart enough to fill that niche. The whole point of winprinters, winmodems etc... is to cut costs for manufacturers. They save (little) money in silicon, and compensate by providing a software Ersatz. There's no Microsoft conspiracy there. It's just unfortunate that we have not yet emulated the environment those software drivers expect, that's all. At least for i386 (and maybe amd64), that should be possible. On ARM, SPARC and other platforms, emulation would be a LOT more difficult, as we would need to hook in a i386 CPU interpreter as well... ;-) >> > So it is in Microsoft's interest not only NOT >> > to kick and scream, but actually to encourage those winprinters >> > by publishing the needed interfaces. It can only increase sales, and >> > they will get more kickbacks from those additional sales. >> >> Insignificant amounts, does not pay. The MICROS~1 concept of software >> ecosystems does not tolerate anything "different". Keep in mind the >> three pillars mentioned before - they would be in danger. > > Keep in mind that you have failed to produce one shred of > documentation to back up your claim of "kickbacks". Correct. But see above. > Jerry =E2=9C=8C > FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Regards, -cpghost. --=20 Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 19:28:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7739B106566C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from mail.nagual.nl (524948AF.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl [82.73.72.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17548FC0C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.11.34] (192.168.11.34) by westmark.nagual.nl (Axigen) with (AES256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 00299B; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:22:39 +0200 Message-ID: <4C990766.7080305@nagual.nl> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:28:38 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nl; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-AxigenVirus-Level: 1 Subject: printcap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:28:40 -0000 Can somebody point me to some information about what to write into /etc/printcap on a FreeBSD machine for a Laserjet that is connected though CUPS on an OpenSolaris server? Linux/Windows computers automatically "see" this printer because it is "broadcasted", but my FreeBSD computers do not and I would like to be able to print from those machines too. Hope to get some help. Dick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 19:41:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5965F1065675 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:41:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8F18FC0A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:41:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so2194059gyg.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:41:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YZvLkQLWZpXHLtREVCP2+7VprHt/4pH3tTURG+RoTdM=; b=WGxQeiTdoQaiEC8Oa3PVeG4Ldd5crp82/1nIm4iLhmTneHrVIiKdke9JCBrYJiI953 iGi6QssjInRALavp+nL34qh2wFXFyeCcqSOfvJD2XDkGWiBhDAluMz+aH8Z5RGTwaq6o bqg+O34kPC2lZmD2RzJzb1Be1B9Bj6nrthLpU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=oBdf7K37gt0Uttg3yQlgakUvahb/+4k+IOeIQ63O+zTe/XmGsibqJ/TqmiB4ccIqT+ +APHBvcrdHnztQPgV8Vv5mGQxRxoXpELMI2l46v41c9R5KwaOuSOdTBcHySmLQvBfMhq Oois3i4dGu7tcMfnyU9yEwRb0yvMEiGKiS1Rw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.185.18 with SMTP id i18mr11004811ybf.327.1285098111352; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.186.137 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:41:51 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: FreeBSD 8.1 & Squid suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:41:53 -0000 Hi folks, I have a small group of people in my office (less than 20), and I want to set up a FBSD/Squid server, and I'm hoping someone might have some suggestions for the install. It's a clean install of FBSD 8.1, and the sole purpose of the server is a Squid server. The server has a 500Gb SATA hard drive, and 8Gb of RAM. I've installed Squid before (on an OpenBSD server), so I'm a comfortable with Squid. I'll install from a package (to make my life easy), but I'm not sure if there are any FBSD specific changes I should make? Are there any kernel customizations you might recommend I need? Are there any suggestions you might make to improve performance? Suggestions? Thank you, Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 19:55:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB101065670 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:55:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF058FC17 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so2161049fxm.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:55:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=e03f6MuBqTwSOyRR7hTDkduM+ua4YHhiQeuCwcryLI0=; b=nx36mijU0yYGBcmp0nC0qxgEttjLvjxS6ESvFch2dwgd/uU2esfJOMBIolopLmmcFV eLmULYtI7hBN3eDGEjIBWtIcVWNr6O6Fk2WvdLSlFlUh46RltiJn0LpedZf1P52lNTi2 Rv6W0axcBV26E2zPSku4FeFYFtccg7J62rusI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Z3lr+YGG+yE3AO5x9o2jbH6eG5qz/dU2GEmpQ9nMBwbtrBwbf4J2YQWr3hiWC08a4s RGxqwrtkwAU6QtjzmdhU7HuB+DUEJojFuRcpr0OPWdxy7niV7kfjAAJuQ4oYpEhOkQy0 c7yxzd8ooPplksOpJ+4H2nXfRVsFH1y5BgrhQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.15 with SMTP id z15mr5796892fao.62.1285098919181; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:55:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <90e6ba4883cb50e1500490c7b441@google.com> References: <90e6ba4883cb50e1500490c7b441@google.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:55:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: vrwmiller@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Media Packages Vs. Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:55:20 -0000 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:41 AM, wrote: > Hi all, > > I am performing PXE boots and automated installs of FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE > with a custom sysinstall.cfg file which identifies packages that are to be > installed in addition to the distributions. We have need to install > compat6x-amd64 and I'd like to have this done during install. Unfortunately, > it does not appear that this package exists in the FreeBSD media from which > the install occurs. However, it is available through the ports collection. > You'll probably want to do something like this: http://bsdbased.com/2010/03/23/freebsd-binary-package-repository-howto FWIW, that's not the end all, be all to setting up your own package repository just a reasonably simple method. > > What is the relationship between the packages directory on the media and > the ports collection? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/packages-using.html Packages associated with a RELEASE also ultimately come from the ports tree. However, those RELEASE packages come from a ports tree that was put into slush, then frozen. This means those packages had more testing and tweaking. Is it possible to take a port, make a package of it and put it in the > packages directory of my own media? > Sure it's easy. When build a port you can issue a make package command, or you can use pkg_create to create packages from installed ported. A common approach to this is build all your updates in a jail, make packages of them, then delete package from the host and install the newly built ones from the jail. Very small, if any downtime. You can use the jail to create pkg's for a custom repository too. http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg228757.html -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 19:56:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F6010656AA for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316F68FC17 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:56:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so6409065iwn.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:56:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ALLH1MaV9eJOMljTPU0haUlqMjga4vxQg01/1JgFn6w=; b=w1KLbVS4AYWxVEQGsAGAAtvdijpBaiR8qd72ayaV8n4g0fl+kvxM/624Dur2uFhu1c bJIjuAJzKoeu5Qg3IpOXvmrjlhAqD9Yf521npdHD24YZH9fVoktjIW25X+hZruItmiLg Rtd+Xk7JV84pgpNQFaqpLzXRO/4T914WzLAYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=K5MWsNUDx6LrWkZiNyZ+MBwMfVBDYnsqkfChUHrBcl3DHiuIxflHFHlYj2L7N1sIKG epIWqbis25k3s+gtbQaRs8SBw9TmyarculKi3sWM+1S0cp8HvargtR0zTTrj00WMoh5U Ofh+HipCKZEvLLUL+gKK8z6gITgTWehBaQe48= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.159.203 with SMTP id k11mr12407296ibx.115.1285098973291; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.186.137 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:56:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Software to SEND log files only? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:56:14 -0000 According to the FreeBSD website (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html), the easiest way to send mail only is to install the mail/ssmtp port. Does anyone have an example of a script or other method (maybe a cron script?) that would e-mail my log files to me daily? Thank you, Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 20:12:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845FC1065674 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8A08FC0C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so6421563iwn.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:12:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fUIRUDlC3LwHOpk6akLudkh0f+q++GZDLDh6KhYFhpQ=; b=h8iS+qd/tO+0mktqgh8w9IHShnRJgnwj9JITIpN7E5VBK49AXABk0ojAT1PEXzAh8r SS0Tf6ydqZ78EnapgC+lIzI1VMKQuyIdHKaU/otn6tgxA6xB+zbpraT5gb+1vwxl+dpg qoIY2YYtGc1K8qqEAt6qYZefDNKrC5TaDkxts= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WssR4KXMzw6mgBC+7uvv2vbhK5TcFCq+Czweo74M4jIYTrbacEqnM8zY3hzvqLn6om NmpUYwQLGKPNyO5F4W/0nsiiob1UBm2nL/q3VQXoovcF5RFqGqMObde6aORdRBf+ZpM7 Fd+agWsEVXM55SJaYcu7fhWqEdyfPvKRZf+Iw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.145.1 with SMTP id b1mr12652272ibv.69.1285099959204; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.186.137 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:12:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C990766.7080305@nagual.nl> References: <4C990766.7080305@nagual.nl> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:12:39 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: printcap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:12:40 -0000 Dick, I'm not sure if this will help you, but here's what I did on my network to print directly to an HP LaserJet on my LAN. Pick a name (and a few convenient aliases) for the printer, and put them in the /etc/printcap file. hp|officehp:\ :sh:\ :rm=192.168.1.50:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/officehp:\ :mx#0:\ :lf=/var/log/officehp:\ :if=/usr/local/libexec/if-simple: hp and officehp -> what I have named my printer (two names) sh -> disables a banner from printing rm -> I.P. address of the remote printer sd -> my spool directory mx -> max file size (o=unlimited) lf -> error file if -> input filter # mkdir /var/spool/lpd/officehp # touch /var/log/officehp # chown daemon:daemon /var/spool/lpd/officehp # chmod 770 /var/spool/lpd/officehp # touch /usr/local/libexec/if-simple # vi /usr/local/libexec/if-simple #!/bin/sh # # if-simple - Simple text input filter for lpd # Installed in /usr/local/libexec/if-simple # # Simply copies stdin to stdout. Ignores all filter arguments. /bin/cat && exit 0 exit 2 Now make the file executable: # chmod 555 /usr/local/libexec/if-simple Note: A copy of the if-simple script can be found in the /usr/share/examples/printing directory. Let's try and print! lpd is run from /etc/rc, controlled by the lpd_enable variable. This variable defaults to NO. If you have not done so already, add the line: lpd_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf, and then either restart your machine, or just run lpd # lpd lptest 20 20 | lpr -Pofficehp Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 20:16:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35BF106566C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515D58FC0C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:16:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so2182691fxm.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:16:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ATwpx9XJ+Sg+8sn7/ZB2yrHoBUF03odnK0th3FLL7gU=; b=Ia8pZtmF0/Tu/iLjrDdB/1olRCzL30svOfRER98HLqeP0Pwqr15yzrGW2sXAestXP7 +8kicaz0lFiBapIndXqaEME7/U85YcpTBGj4SmaP4erzKnIejvhlGentKYu4mj1rgqSL us2rTeaLVc7OwYoxIbe8Za/FpGczAnfH+giSQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=vtr2K6MpvsuWuLQjbmwEF9b4LtCYSXcWK/5SEfbGMwKTHPUc6W3LNwty59OFjxoguk 75ZKBaXalVAgxHmpK7w+gUBlqUDHG6uZ802Q7j4SPtjmKEHEGR9KqSFhYh2+TI62QEmu wxDTlYIrYH/3ZA/r83ob5XmDVK9OzXlBpuXMQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.126.195 with SMTP id d3mr1949224fas.82.1285100195176; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:16:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:16:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Ed Flecko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software to SEND log files only? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:16:36 -0000 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Ed Flecko wrote: > According to the FreeBSD website > (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html), the easiest > way to send mail only is to install the mail/ssmtp port. > > Does anyone have an example of a script or other method (maybe a cron > script?) that would e-mail my log files to me daily? > That's pretty silly article if you ask me, sendmail is setup to that by default. just add something like this to cron: uuencode /path/to/logfile logfile | mail -s "logfile" youremail@example.com -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 20:43:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40051106564A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FC78FC13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id D15E6471825 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:17:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509603865BA for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:17:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:17:54 +0200 Message-Id: <201009212217.AA256967036@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Len Conrad" X-Sender: To: X-Mailer: Subject: Re: Software to SEND log files only? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:43:57 -0000 ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Ed Flecko Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:56:13 -0700 >According to the FreeBSD website >(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html), the easiest >way to send mail only is to install the mail/ssmtp port. > >Does anyone have an example of a script or other method (maybe a cron >script?) that would e-mail my log files to me daily? log files can be (too) huge as smtp DATA. I zip mine and use the mpack port to send the .zip file as MIME attachment. Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 21:53:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD7E106567A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B608D8FC15 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so6509153iwn.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:53:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MPdq7xCbp+Zk8Jh45EUnqXc5as3C9ubzdWP4i/2kU4U=; b=ekLhvMyzfGtgDcZPAgmIEchmL7utg+eNsaNvqTp32HUg/1IRVuhdBgOKAcUT2+DPwr waR11MZdfp8sH4H8XKuf3VwXEkYadC3nKA2FfpbbrHePai9591SY+nWnDkkfiBDb580k e357XQMNqA7kahuYVm3zYNBu9s4+jwK23oPw8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vdybleFp6QCwoMTzPiIf+ZWgFrIDT7Fn7wYuWhfowvcvHhq3JJAkZ2AIDqLPQt+8NY BWIl4TcDvqOrOL1cgCtLbre5mkaeGb3JsSJUkCVMbW/E1TJtORK3qaLPn13ezTdwmdi9 EuREo5IBp+rd6YyN63sRKUXtotJVe4LWktv5Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.85.206 with SMTP id p14mr12693597ibl.89.1285106034962; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.186.137 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:53:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1285102199.39295.3.camel@btw.pki2.com> References: <1285102199.39295.3.camel@btw.pki2.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:53:54 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.1 & Squid suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:53:56 -0000 Thanks Dennis! These are config options you've changed within the squid.conf file??? Can you give me some specifics as to what you changed and why you changed it? Thank you, Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 23:00:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4807D1065673 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.85.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB9268FC17 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:00:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 42288 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Sep 2010 23:00:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1285110007; bh=unG9hM4iSp3g3d1VBoYktzrAVz+mPLrqdA91GNxwCS4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hfM+ls/fp49pFDKr64QWY91DXLEx5xxDEVy8bdQmrtytelk+1phZ1UXqaln8P+6qP2C8xmYyPlR86+qSR19rN6UM1bcZfAYl8nfHqRPnNBvpRgLYfcNpIQFD/Jr6h2KxJARJ+YGAOcqC6rmIJxgfNZp0e/ymSMppCLT1T6WIZtA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kBJVXiweXZq8NxIcnF3CbuXrixBQMwa3S7k41uVEX6aV9KfUL0tCKTSKu4b82kIhZH6P7hVIRQoa9OeTym0YUfFdaziuOmKaWQ7dJTlb851my7s+fTHbUlPwQXfz38NvXl66N62diUEP0hb+ZkDEpWusMCeKKMxvG369yRZTK/s=; Message-ID: <212781.37980.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xKf59aYVM1mSAh.kRaeitJlSlsyDoGQcWeqhSSQkcWN002N Xxbl2wQbNvw7mKaIC53QBG3CgRfM1w9BLlH2Pd5a633q5IsDez925VMKWfWv ltStY191Dv5NnGJqAOW_6cBW.ll46cPzcFkUyqqw9ZAEg8BGlFDme0tdInIm Wrx8jfwTQyrJwfKafgATOeUJNhgk.BTL.DK.hiHEU5osVWh64T7NrIb5RBcT M3u0wqSFKMc7WyGRdoCoLmX_Q0kBWtcbHAkFQeCGOqIrCTRbPN0RxmPF2rq4 S Received: from [98.242.233.74] by web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:00:07 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.9 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:00:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100921201248.3BBFA1065778@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:00:10 -0000 I once used an inkjet printer and almost went broke keeping it fed with ink= . I found a refurbished Brother HL-2040 Laser printer at Tiger Direct for $= 89. It's been running now for almost 3 years and I'm only on my second tone= r cartridge. To be honest, we're all on a big paperless effort and I rarely= print anything these days. With PDF files and new software like Bluebeam R= evu I just don't have the need to print much. =A0 But since I occassionally do print and the kids need it from time to time f= or school I have my laser setup on a FreeBSD server which serves all segmen= ts in my LAN, including the separate wireless LAN for laptops. CUPS is inst= alled on my server as a dependency for other apps but I don't use it to pri= nt. =A0 I used to run it with a parallel cable but when I updated my server=A0I had= to switch to=A0the USB port on the printer. And I just use simple LPR prin= ting from the windows clients. Now I won't say it was that easy but once it= was up and running it's hands free. The FreeBSD server uses ghostscript an= d a simple filter file which envokes gs. The /etc/printcap file is very sim= ple too.=A0I set the windows clients up to use a=A0postscript printer drive= r to send the files to the server which it then processes and prints. All i= s well and I never have any trouble with it. One day soon I will have to pu= rchase another toner cartridge but those are available at several sources. =A0 Don't be intimidated by printing under FreeBSD. It's really quite simple un= less you're trying to use one of those WinPrinters which will only run with= M$. =A0=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 21 23:30:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB158106567A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC9C8FC1A for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so1784234wwc.31 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:30:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.49.212 with SMTP id x62mr9845556web.55.1285111801652; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.137.234 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:30:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [69.91.158.134] In-Reply-To: <20100921144329.62d6b50b@scorpio> References: <20100921144329.62d6b50b@scorpio> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:30:01 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:30:03 -0000 I think conspiracy theories miss the point. The reason more printers work on Windows than on FreeBSD is if you don't support Windows, you can't sell printers to 92% of computer users. This is an extremely powerful incentive to spend money on writing Windows drivers. The financial incentive is not really there to spend time writing drivers for FreeBSD. There just aren't enough FreeBSD users who will buy your printer to pay for it. It's simple market economics, unfortunately. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 00:19:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21221065759 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 00:19:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467708FC23 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 00:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o8M0HiZS024365; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:17:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:17:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201009220017.o8M0HiZS024365@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com, cpghost@cordula.ws Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 00:19:43 -0000 > From cpghost@cordula.ws Mon Sep 20 19:40:36 2010 > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:42:22 +0200 > Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer > From: "C. P. Ghost" > To: Robert Bonomi > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Robert Bonomi w= > rote: > > "Adapting" =A0MS-Windows print drivers is not 'practical' either. =A0A wi= > ndows > > print driver is embedd in the O/S KERNEL, =A0with _system_ calls_ (not > > mere 'library' routines) that implement the 'device-dependant' rendering > > of layout/formating directions. =A0One then takes the 'opaque object' so > > produced and sends it (via _another_ set of system calls) to the 'output' > > function of that same driver. > > Is that really so? How about writing some emulation shim like ndis(4) for > winprinters? Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm not a Windows systems > programmer, but this is what I'm thinking about. > > As far as I understand Windows printing, there are two aspects to resolve, > given a vendor supplied windriver binary blob: > > 1/ the windriver gets some (opaque) data from the GDI+ -- maybe > a bitmap, with some meta data. > > 2/ the windriver interprets this data however it sees fit, and then talks t= > o > the NT kernel (maybe via DLL calls) to send electrical impulses to the > printer. If only it _were_ sometine even approaching that simple! Unfortunately, it *isn't*. *IF* UNIX applications produced their output in the form of gdi calls, the approach you descibe _would_ be viable. But they don't. And therein lies all the complications. UNIX applications are almost entirely self-contained with regard to printing, A postscript producting app can make use of a printer-specific 'hints' file that provides 'standardized' means of accessing printer features for which 'implementation details' are left up to the manufacurer -- e.g. paper source tray 'numbering'; do trays start rom zero or one? are they numbered consecutively? and which is which? (just for starter :) Windows passes -individual- objects to the printer driver, which may return a 'rendered' vesion _to_ Windows, which windoes ten merges with otheer rendered objects to produce next phase of the page which eventually goes through the driver a final time, and that bitstring is sent to the hardware. If one has an application that "doesn't work that way", and autonomously produces an output data stream of 'some' form, there is a *MAJOR"* hurdle in 'reverse engineering' that data stream back to 'objects' that can be fed to the Windows prinding model. as the manufacturer's printer driver expects. If that isn't bad enough, there is no guarantee the the exact steps and sequences of operations that wee used to _produce_that data-strem, even _HAVE_ a direct equivalent inthe Windows printing model. (Heck this problem shows up _witin_ windows with different supported printers, thats _why_ the applicationi has to adjust _its_ output logic to adapt to the way the paritcular printer does things.o When you're 'reverse engineering' from a set of concrete details to a set of abstractions, *what*do*you*do* when you have a sequence of 'details' that doesn't match _any_ of the possible abstractions in the target environment? Begin to get the idea? Devloping the kind of 'shimp' you envision would be a significantly larger, harder, and more time-consuming project than the development of Ghostscript. and by the time the reqired team of engineers got through the years of work involved, the chances are -very- good that nobody would be making 'that kind' of printer driver any more. '95 drivers are not usablewith XP, XP drivers are not compatible With Vista, Vista <-> Windows 7, I'm not sure about.` From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 00:26:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3498F1065673 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 00:26:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B6C8FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 00:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o8M0OBhW024398; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:24:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:24:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201009220024.o8M0OBhW024398@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: cpghost@cordula.ws, freebsd@edvax.de Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 00:26:16 -0000 > From cpghost@cordula.ws Tue Sep 21 12:34:21 2010 > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:36:00 +0200 > Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer > From: "C. P. Ghost" > To: Polytropon > Cc: Robert Bonomi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:42:22 +0200, "C. P. Ghost" wrote: > > > > Keep in mind there are stupid things in the world as patents, > > intelellectual property, licensing fees and copyrighted secret > > codes. > > Yes, that's indeed the real problem. A legal, not a technical one. > > > At the moment there was a program (or any other kind of > > facility) that makes Winprinters accessible by *ANY* OS (not > > only FreeBSD, but maybe all BSDs and Linusi and Solaris and > > who knows what else), MICROS~1 would start violently screaming > > as someone is eating from their cake. Keep in mind that Winprinters > > are an important target platform for home users who PAY for > > "Windows" and PAY for a "compatible" printer. They pay once > > every two years or so. MICROS~1 and the printer manufacturers > > can't stand it if one uses their products too long, as long-term > > use does imply NO FURTHER SALES. And now imagine that a user > > can fully use all features of a formerly-Winprinter all-in-one > > ink pee copier scanner fax machine - where would be his need to > > buy a "Windows" to do that as he can now use FreeBSD for free? > > As far as I understand this, Microsoft doesn't manufacture those > winprinters, so why would they screem if those printers were able > to run on other platform too? A) *THEY* developed the interface specifications. They license printer manufacurers to build to it. They _would_ obejct if somebody used their technology to compete against them. B) As it is, to _use_ one of those printers, you *HAVE*TO*BY* a MS O/S. if one could use those printers -without- a MS O/S, that is a 'provable' loss in MS O/S sales -- one sales loss for -each- non-MS system that has such a printer attached. > > You can even see it the other way: for every winprinter manufactured > (or, more precisely, for every windriver sold), Microsoft may get a > fixed share due to patent royalties from the manufacturer. So, suppose > a manufacturer sells more of his winprinters to BSD/Linux/Solaris/... > folks because we had this shim, it would translate to more patent > royalties to Microsoft too. So it is in Microsoft's interest not only NOT > to kick and scream, but actually to encourage those winprinters > by publishing the needed interfaces. It can only increase sales, and > they will get more kickbacks from those additional sales. > > > Of course, this consideration is very far away from any technical > > understanding - as typical for lawpersons who make money from > > bullshit. :-) > > That's for sure. ;-) > > >> But the basic idea remains: the interfaces on both sides of the > >> windriver binary blobs is pretty stable and (I think) not a secret at all. > > > > In that case, I would ask myself: Why hasn't it been done already? > > If your assumption was right, it would already work. As it currently > > does not work, I would check your assumption. :-) > > I don't know why it hasn't been done up to now. After all, this is nothing > but an exercise in mapping one set of interfaces onto another set of > interfaces. We've done this kind of interface matching with with the > Linuxulator, NDIS is another good example, and the Wine guys are > doing a great job too. I fail to see a compelling TECHNICAL reason > why Windows drivers in general (and windrivers in particular) couldn't > be docked to Unix systems. Of course, legal reasons are a different > matter. > > > Polytropon > > Magdeburg, Germany > > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > > Regards, > -cpghost. > > -- > Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 01:06:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C8F106566C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB17C8FC19 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8M15uqs068689; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:05:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o8M15uqN068686; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:05:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:05:56 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "Randal L. Schwartz" In-Reply-To: <867hifasv6.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: References: <44r5gnuk35.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <867hifasv6.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:05:56 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man.cgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:06:01 -0000 On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Lowell" == Lowell Gilbert writes: > > Lowell> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/www/en/cgi/man.cgi > > Wow. *Ancient* Perl code. I should contribute a rewrite to modern Perl. Careful--it's like eating potato chips. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 01:23:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31F81065698 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:23:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECF78FC1D for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o8M1LWYH024727; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:21:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:21:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201009220121.o8M1LWYH024727@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: edflecko@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: Software to SEND log files only? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:23:30 -0000 > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:56:13 -0700 > From: Ed Flecko > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Software to SEND log files only? > > According to the FreeBSD website > (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/outgoing-only.html), the easiest > way to send mail only is to install the mail/ssmtp port. > > Does anyone have an example of a script or other method (maybe a cron > script?) that would e-mail my log files to me daily? > 'mailing a file' is as simple as "mail -s {subject} {addressee} Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1AF106566C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1948FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:47:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8M1lWaU068787; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:47:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o8M1lWTB068784; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:47:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:47:32 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "C. P. Ghost" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201009201716.o8KHGpxf013791@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20100921174321.ee8d55ef.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:47:32 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:47:37 -0000 On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Polytropon wrote: >> >> In that case, I would ask myself: Why hasn't it been done already? >> If your assumption was right, it would already work. As it currently >> does not work, I would check your assumption. :-) > > I don't know why it hasn't been done up to now. After all, this is nothing > but an exercise in mapping one set of interfaces onto another set of > interfaces. We've done this kind of interface matching with with the > Linuxulator, NDIS is another good example, and the Wine guys are > doing a great job too. I fail to see a compelling TECHNICAL reason > why Windows drivers in general (and windrivers in particular) couldn't > be docked to Unix systems. Of course, legal reasons are a different > matter. Technically possible. The brute-force method would be to run a VM with Windows and the real driver, then just capture input and output. Sure it's tricky, but those are just details. But look at this another way: It's a difficult and demanding programming job, with lots of details that have to be just right, may or may not be easy to find without reverse engineering, and an ongoing support headache that will never end. Kind of like Gutenprint; I wonder if they have a perspective on it. What all this effort achieves is support for the most cost-reduced, bottom-of-the-line printers from every manufacturer. It's probably more effective to put some emphasis in the Handbook on the problems with "host-based" printers (the polite euphemism for Winprinter). The issue is confused by printers that aren't host-based, but use proprietary PDLs. If someone comes up with a working GDI printer emulation layer, that would make a great port. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 01:57:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0EA106566C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421178FC17 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:57:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8M1vq8I068817; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:57:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o8M1vpDL068814; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:57:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:57:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Dick Hoogendijk In-Reply-To: <4C990766.7080305@nagual.nl> Message-ID: References: <4C990766.7080305@nagual.nl> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:57:52 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: printcap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:57:53 -0000 On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > Can somebody point me to some information about what to write into > /etc/printcap on a FreeBSD machine for a Laserjet that is connected though > CUPS on an OpenSolaris server? It's not clear how that printer is connected. If it's on the network itself, you should be able to send jobs directly to it. If the printer is connected by USB or something else to the server, CUPS might still accept jobs from lpr. (Untested, but it's a print server, after all.) Network printing from printcap (among other things) is shown here: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html Well, and in the Handbook, too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 02:11:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AC5106564A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fengdreamer@126.com) Received: from m50-110.126.com (m50-110.126.com [123.125.50.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775388FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.225] (unknown [222.35.213.250]) by smtp4 (Coremail) with SMTP id jdKowLDLlATBZZlM7LSRAw--.5845S3; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:11:15 +0800 (CST) From: fengdreamer@126.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:15:08 +0800 Message-ID: <3BXxsfllH2Vg.dQN4YV04@smtp.126.com> X-Mailer: EPOC Email Version 2.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: i-default Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-CM-TRANSID: jdKowLDLlATBZZlM7LSRAw--.5845S3 X-Coremail-Antispam: 1Uf129KBjvJXoW3GryruF15Ww1DJw1xZFyftFb_yoWDGF47pF WfKr4ftF48XF18J3s7A3yrAryruFWfWw47GrWrGrWxZan8C3ZFqr13tFWruFyUAFWrA345 Xr1jqr1jqFZ0v3DanT9S1TB71UUUUUUqnTZGkaVYY2UrUUUUjbIjqfuFe4nvWSU5nxnvy2 9KBjDUYxBIdaVFxhVjvjDU0xZFpf9x07jfR6wUUUUU= X-CM-SenderInfo: pihqwv5uhdzvbu6rjloofrz/1tbi5wxUs0oZjSF3oQAAsl Subject: =?utf-8?b?5Zue5aSN77ya?= freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 329, Issue 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fengdreamer@126.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:11:22 -0000 =E5=8E=9F=E4=BF=A1=E6=81=AF =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98=EF=BC=9A freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 329, Issue = 2 =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A = freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org =E6=97=A5=E6=9C=9F=EF=BC=9A 2010/09/21 14:22 Send freebsd-questions mailing list submissions to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org You can reach the person managing the list at freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of freebsd-questions digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer (perryh@pluto.rain.com) 2. Re: apache22 and threads (Michael Powell) 3. dnsmasq, mfsBSD, status refused (Samuel Mart?n Moro) 4. Re: TCP Logs Why "Connection attempt to closed port" (Daniel = Bye) 5. Re: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? (doug@safeport.com) 6. Re: Problem running custom startup script at proper time (Robert Bonomi) 7. Re: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? (Michael Powell) 8. Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer (Robert Bonomi) 9. Re: Problems with upgrade - lost partition (Lokadamus) 10. RSS to email? (Chris Maness) 11. Re: RSS to email? (Glen Barber) 12. Re: RSS to email? (Chip Camden) 13. Re: RSS to email? (Glen Barber) 14. Re: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? (Rob Farmer) 15. Re: RSS to email? (Michelle Konzack) 16. Re: why is the PHP stuff line "off" by default in ports/lang/php5? (Matthew Seaman) 17. Re: extra open ports in rkhunter (Carl Johnson) 18. Re: make buildkernel pre-build too long (Alexander Best) 19. Re: Problem running custom startup script at proper time = (Aaron) 20. Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer (C. P. = Ghost) 21. Zip file making issues (Ryan Coleman) 22. Re: Zip file making issues (Matt Emmerton) 23. Re: Zip file making issues (Ryan Coleman) 24. wireless networking (William Kindler) 25. Re: Zip file making issues (Michael Ross) 26. Re: Zip file making issues (Ryan Coleman) 27. Re: Zip file making issues (Matthew Seaman) 28. Re: Zip file making issues (Ryan Coleman) 29. Re: make buildkernel pre-build too long (David DEMELIER) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:20:52 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer To: FreeBSD@insightbb.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4c9751a4.POuJNkjk++rGHEd0%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Steven Friedrich wrote: > > "Common Unix Printing System" certainly sounds as if the intent > > was to be the "ONE thing that is used for printing". Whether > > they did a good job of it is another question entirely :( > > I think that you don't fully apreciate the task at hand. When > Unix was first invented, there were no laser printers, ink jets, > USB, etc. > > That no one can create a one-size fits all solution OWES to the > fact it's simply not always possible to unify disparate designs. > They weren't designed to be interoperable. Technology keeps > marchng forward. We need to discard all of it eventually. Back in the CP/M and early MS-DOS days, similar doubts were raised regarding display systems. Fortunately, those doubts did not stop some developers from doing what others thought impossible. The results included X11, which has been rather durable for a considerable time. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:19:37 -0400 From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: apache22 and threads To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Victor Sudakov wrote: > Colleagues, >=20 > When building apache22 from ports, would you recommend to enable or = to > disable threads support? >=20 > Even more confusing is the fact that for ports/www/apache22 the = default > is: "Enable threads support in APR is off" (WITHOUT_THREADS=3Dtrue) >=20 > while for ports/devel/apr1 the default is: > "Enable Threads in apr is on" (WITH_THREADS=3Dtrue). >=20 > Thank you in advance for any input. >=20 > PS ports/devel/apr1 will also be used for the subversion client. >=20 I wouldn't mind someone with more apache22-fu to elaborate, correcting the = following if necessary. My thoughts are this matters depending upon which mpm you choose to build = into apache. The default is prefork, and it handles incoming requests by = spawning child processes. The main shortcoming associated with this = approach=20 is resources such as database connections are not shareable between the = child processes, e.g. each must have its own. So each incoming request has = to fork a child, then build up, consume, and tear down the database = connection. The lifetime will exist during the keepalive period and just be = sitting there in memory idle most of the time following the task = completion. A threaded mpm such as worker or event, is designed to spawn threads within = a process to service incoming requests. One is a hybrid, in that it also = forks additional processes as well when a preset thread count is reached. = When all threads are contained within the same process each thread is able = to share and consume resources in a pool amongst other threads. So an idle = database connection which has finished serving a previous request can be = immediately reused by a new thread without a build up tear down = cycle. So my idea of the usage of WITH_THREADS is for the default prefork mpm it = would be "NO", while for the event mpm it would be "YES". An additional consideration might be what kind of backend is used. For = example, since not all of PHP is known to be thread safe it is not=20 recommended for use with a threaded server and mod_php. The way to get = around this situation is to separate PHP from Apache with something like = mod_fcgid which runs PHP as a FastCGI. This way you can safely run a = threaded Apache with non-thread safe PHP. As far as which is the better = approach I still am not really sure. Each has its set of pros and = cons. -Mike ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:56:35 +0200 From: Samuel Mart?n Moro Subject: dnsmasq, mfsBSD, status refused To: dnsmasq-discuss@lists.thekelleys.org.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Hi I'm trying to replace my gate with a qnap ts-509. I installed mfsBSD, based on FreeBSD-8.1-RELEASE amd64. I just had to build some pre-configured packages, add ipfw, ipfw_nat = and libalias to boot modules. Everything's working just fine, except for the DNS = (dnsmasq-2.55,1.tbz, rebuilt with config files and ipfw startup script) DHCP works perfectly. But DNS does not... Even on the (soon-to-be) gateway, so I'm assuming ipfw is not related to = the problem (in doubt, I still send it) root@phi /real/tmp : ipfw list 00001 check-state 00002 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00003 allow tcp from any to any established 00500 allow ip from any to any via bge1 00666 allow tcp from me to any out via bge0 setup uid root keep-state 65535 deny ip from any to any (since bge0 is not plugged, it's quite empty...) root@phi /real/tmp : ./dig @localhost alpha.faust-network ; <<>> DiG 9.6.2-P2 <<>> alpha.faust-network ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 13068 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;alpha.faust-network. IN A ;; Query time: 13 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) ;; WHEN: Mon Sep 20 13:41:15 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 37 basically, my configuration is the following: cache-size=3D1024 local-ttl=3D15 log-dhcp interface=3Dbge1 bind-interfaces no-negcache dhcp-range=3D10.254.254.1,10.254.254.254,255.0.0.0,1h dhcp-boot=3Dpxelinux.0,omega,10.42.42.45 # PXE TFTP server = (omega) dhcp-option=3D3,10.242.42.254 # gateway dhcp-option=3D19,1 # option ip-forwarding = off dhcp-option=3D23,42 # TTL de 42 dhcp-option=3D44,10.242.42.254 # Wins Server dhcp-option=3D45,10.242.42.254 # NetBios DDS dhcp-option=3D46,8 # NetBios Node Type dhcp-option=3Doption:ntp-server,213.186.41.134,88.191.79.242,193.55.167.2,80= .65.235.4,194.57.191.1,91.121.45.45 dhcp-script=3D/usr/local/bin/dhcp_action domain=3Dfaust-network expand-hosts bogus-nxdomain=3D64.94.110.11 #get SSL certificate from another = CAServer localmx selfmx conf-file=3D/usr/local/etc/blocklist.conf # filter adds, shits, facebook, = ... my resolv.conf: nameserver 10.242.42.254 #localhost, priv addr nameserver 8.8.4.4 domain faust-network I already have a dnsmasq working perfectly on my current gate (ArchLinux-x86_64). I copied the configuration, making a few changes (192.168.0.0/24 -> 10.0.0.0/8). So, I don't understant what I'm doing wrong.... Any idea? Cheers, --- Samuel Mart=EF=BF=BDn Moro {EPITECH.} tek5 CamTrace S.A.S ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:21:40 +0100 From: Daniel Bye Subject: Re: TCP Logs Why "Connection attempt to closed port" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100920142140.GA12913@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:58:38AM +0100, David Southwell wrote: >=20 > Large quantities of these errors constantly appear in = log/dmesg.today. >=20 > Can anyone explain what is going on and whether any action is needed. If = so=20 > how to go about tracing the cause. - - - = =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD"=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD">"= =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD"=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF= =BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD= =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD - - - From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 03:14:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF841065670 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B1C8FC0A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:14:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9dLn1f0040xGWP857f1FsR; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:01:15 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.51] ([71.199.122.142]) by omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9f1F1f00A34Sj4f3Yf1FQe; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:01:15 +0000 Message-ID: <4C99718A.7020405@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:01:30 -0400 From: Steve Polyack User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: compat4x broken in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:14:31 -0000 Is anyone else having issues using compat4x / running FreeBSD 4 binaries on 8.1-RELEASE? I recently upgraded a system of mine from 8.0-RELEASE to 8.1-RELEASE, which seems to have broken compatibility with compat4x. The requisite package is installed (I even reinstalled it, but it appears to be a binary package). The kernel options are all still there in my kernel config, which is only a slightly modified GENERIC. $ uname -a FreeBSD xxxxxx 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 21 01:18:45 EDT 2010 root@xxxxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PFSYNC-MFIB amd64 $ grep -ir compat /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/PFSYNC-MFIB options COMPAT_43TTY # BSD 4.3 TTY compat (sgtty) options COMPAT_IA32 # Compatible with i386 binaries options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6 options COMPAT_FREEBSD7 # Compatible with FreeBSD7 An example FreeBSD 4 port which no longer works is audio/ventrilo-server: $ sudo /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ventrilo-server start Starting ventrilo. /usr/local/ventrilo-server/ventrilo_srv: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected $ file /usr/local/ventrilo-server/ventrilo_srv /usr/local/ventrilo-server/ventrilo_srv: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for FreeBSD 4.5, stripped $ ldd /usr/local/ventrilo-server/ventrilo_srv ldd: /usr/bin/ldd32: Exec format error Interestingly enough, the compat4 libraries themselves don't seem to be recognized: $ ldd /usr/local/lib32/compat/libfetch.so.2 ldd: /usr/bin/ldd32: Exec format error Compat5x libraries do not appear to be affected: $ ldd /usr/local/lib/compat/libfetch.so.3 /usr/local/lib/compat/libfetch.so.3: libssl.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libssl.so.3 (0x800c00000) libcrypto.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libcrypto.so.3 (0x800d3a000) Has anyone else ran into this issue? I realize trying to use things built for FreeBSD 4 may be like beating a dead horse at this point, I'm just surprised that the compatibility was broken during a minor release upgrade. Thanks, Steve Polyack From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 04:34:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C461065673 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:34:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net [76.96.53.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3EE58FC17 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net ([76.96.53.7]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net with comcast id 9gJq1f00F09Ku2s09gaNrH; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:34:22 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.9] ([70.89.202.1]) by omta02.westchester.pa.hmc1.comcast.net with bizsmtp id 9gaJ1f00302K3z202gaMLB; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:34:22 +0000 From: Ryan Coleman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:34:15 -0500 Message-Id: <2C27511F-D641-4CE4-97A3-EF8927FC0893@d3photography.com> To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) Subject: Mailing list software recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:34:24 -0000 I'm thinking about installing either ezmlm or mailman. I'm not against others; thoughts? -- Ryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 05:03:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A501065672 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:03:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C268FC16 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8M53nVs026394 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:03:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C998E2E.8030103@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:03:42 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Randal L. Schwartz" References: <44r5gnuk35.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <867hifasv6.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <867hifasv6.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8FA4EAEB2A78122673BCC4E3" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ben GUILLER Subject: Re: man.cgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:03:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8FA4EAEB2A78122673BCC4E3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/09/2010 18:50:21, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Lowell" =3D=3D Lowell Gilbert writes: >=20 > Lowell> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/www/en/cgi/man.cgi >=20 > Wow. *Ancient* Perl code. I should contribute a rewrite to modern Per= l. cvsweb.cgi or man.cgi? Or both? Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig8FA4EAEB2A78122673BCC4E3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyZjjUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwVEgCfRUt9YSC07xh2zZOrtf2+M8gU SMwAoIiogg7OpBq38kfPr/Xzvut6eZ1i =Wj0G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8FA4EAEB2A78122673BCC4E3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 05:17:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDA51065673 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:17:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from hp9.esiee.fr (hp9.esiee.fr [147.215.1.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796FF8FC24 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:17:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by hp9.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04DA3E8DCA for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:17:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 87B751054421 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:17:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from secure.esiee.fr (secure.esiee.fr [147.215.1.19]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78713105441E for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:17:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (chs77-1-82-238-8-126.fbx.proxad.net [82.238.8.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by secure.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5BFA0E9F96 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:17:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C999167.4060408@esiee.fr> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:17:27 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.1 & Squid suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:17:38 -0000 Hello No problem ! I use Squid on a proliant HP 360 with 2 Gb RAM and 100 Gb of disk cache. It serves our LAN clients ( approx 800 PCs ) without trouble with a standard kernel. Hope this help. Le 21/09/2010 21:41, Ed Flecko a =E9crit : > Hi folks, > I have a small group of people in my office (less than 20), and I want > to set up a FBSD/Squid server, and I'm hoping someone might have some > suggestions for the install. > > It's a clean install of FBSD 8.1, and the sole purpose of the server > is a Squid server. The server has a 500Gb SATA hard drive, and 8Gb of > RAM. I've installed Squid before (on an OpenBSD server), so I'm a > comfortable with Squid. > > I'll install from a package (to make my life easy), but I'm not sure > if there are any FBSD specific changes I should make? Are there any > kernel customizations you might recommend I need? Are there any > suggestions you might make to improve performance? > > Suggestions? > > Thank you, > Ed > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 05:32:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8904A106566C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:32:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9808FC1D for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwg5 with SMTP id 5so12584qwg.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:32:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hmJ9aHe5Igp2FhgDbDEB3Xev0EcrD2JEwKtcfBsfsG4=; b=JQZQ60MqhLvNocMrGi+kqdNMALtQ2bHAFqhAmuReDlVJB43zHB/tmv1ybDa2Z/KQ3o Jl3ts6/qhLGu08dcfERoflN1jVX5vcZA1XH0tEU/MWXG8wj6ly1RM7YSbSmUBFGnzbje YIQ8bYTe/k3TXxTQiThK+CbRxriK7WAQQ3SHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=g8CdnZACYppB0hn455uMEApTQXEiuI3doaTLpUcy7sYdG4QIZSCxkDW4AwYu9OjbMg bWhzKbfgelzMnVP2IRlNk3Cad5H8APEQ4eXOxpNNnDvuWgzCHlXCXbfp/KX5qt5HWOss 29hfWZ2KRlsKXoRW5u95ZfIARYEG1qu/ktlDs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.2.134 with SMTP id 6mr4940702qaj.101.1285133524502; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.60.76 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:32:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:32:04 -0700 Message-ID: From: patrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.1 & Squid suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:32:05 -0000 Hi Ed, For my office, I add IPFIREWALL_FORWARD into the kernel so that I can transparently route all HTTP traffic without any client configuration. My ipfw rule is: ipfw add 550 fwd 127.0.0.1,3128 tcp from ${int_net} to any 80 via ${int_if} Patrick On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Ed Flecko wrote: > Hi folks, > I have a small group of people in my office (less than 20), and I want > to set up a FBSD/Squid server, and I'm hoping someone might have some > suggestions for the install. > > It's a clean install of FBSD 8.1, and the sole purpose of the server > is a Squid server. The server has a 500Gb SATA hard drive, and 8Gb of > RAM. I've installed Squid before (on an OpenBSD server), so I'm a > comfortable with Squid. > > I'll install from a package (to make my life easy), but I'm not sure > if there are any FBSD specific changes I should make? Are there any > kernel customizations you might recommend I need? Are there any > suggestions you might make to improve performance? > > Suggestions? > > Thank you, > Ed > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 05:33:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6ABF1065695 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2F88FC24 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.1]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100922053324.XZIR3192.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net>; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:33:24 +0100 Received: from [86.31.87.130] (helo=unknown) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OyHxL-0004gP-Un; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:33:24 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:33:20 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Adam Vande More Message-ID: <20100922063320.00007843@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=DhNl2YeytwJssBBGe49HJX82LNDFEEVkpVB34RXKaPo= c=1 sm=0 a=7kACk6pTI4QA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=A1X0JdhQAAAA:8 a=SXzRytNbXz0k9LaD7uUA:9 a=Jcn9sg36upLeY7zgSpT3LPUE6aQA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=Y6qChIQXU1wA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Cc: Ed Flecko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software to SEND log files only? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:33:26 -0000 On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:16:35 -0500 Adam Vande More wrote: > That's pretty silly article if you ask me, sendmail is setup to that > by default. > > just add something like this to cron: > > uuencode /path/to/logfile logfile | mail -s "logfile" > youremail@example.com Most mail servers will block sendmail's connections from a dynamic IP: the advantage to ssmtp is that it forwards mail to the ISP's server. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 05:47:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E9C106567A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:47:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618D38FC1D for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so124091fxm.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:47:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=c+9dARc7MQmSbi0e1khXcRZcv7CE+FOFBROMuEdJulY=; b=Rnn572Ec/RPkJvQQapeJRQJytq8cGnwfGa/pGz7Fe7I3O0jmKLVvf8D3g0M4M+TQ02 S26PXJdzL0A5ifl4akYjS5dOWpAdyVDQM5pcAD5XV4oClfENx021Dtm+GuiYvVJQZXm1 8Ovz83gf6a8Fr0HE1g4GEvmsZDBKmF1fwyDaM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OvmtItF/Dbsxs5mhHhJG3JXl4byL62z2vkAi2sn/B6a0qn6EAA4EsOR9tHz4TfpIpS hilOpljEPmth0KkiNrob2WT0VZlx8s+jku3RxWhAbedIYERUSD1JMlxOG6b1elGHlK2p 8Pzua/G9NsI34qrHubv5C0QwliPMmY6M1JlhE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.115.12 with SMTP id g12mr7099895faq.103.1285134449088; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.57.20 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:47:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100922063320.00007843@unknown> References: <20100922063320.00007843@unknown> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 00:47:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Bruce Cran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Ed Flecko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software to SEND log files only? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:47:30 -0000 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Bruce Cran wrote: > Most mail servers will block sendmail's connections from a dynamic IP: > the advantage to ssmtp is that it forwards mail to the ISP's server. > A small few, not most will do this IME. The larger issue is/was that some providers blocked port 25 from dynamic IP's. Regardless, it's easier to config sendmail as a smarthost with authorization, than it is a add yet another port IMO. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 05:48:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED041065673 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A345D8FC1E for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:48:21 +0200 Message-ID: <4C9998A5.50907@ose.nl> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:48:21 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C98C88A.80503@ose.nl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Upgrading from 8.0-Release / X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:48:25 -0000 On 09/21/2010 06=3A59 PM=2C Zbigniew Szalbot wrote=3A =3E Hello=2C =3E =3E =20 =3E=3E Sure you don=27t have a freebsd-update cron running which runs a the= time =3E=3E just between executing freebsd-update -r 8=2E1-RELEASE + merging con= fig =3E=3E files and executing freebsd-update install=3F =3E=3E I upgraded some boxes to 8=2E1 and did not see this problem=2E =3E=3E =20 =3E No=2E Nothing automated=2E That=27s why I am surprised and not sure wha= t to =3E do next=2E Do you think I should try to invoke the upgrade =28-r =3E 8=2E1-RELEASE upgrade=29 command again=3F =3E =3E =20 Yes=2C start the upgrade from the beginning again=2E If this does not work and you don=27t intend to rollback from a previous update you may take a look at /var/db/freebsd-update and clean it out=2E DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 06:30:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391291065697 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbigniew.szalbot@sgmlifewords.com) Received: from mx1.myoutlookonline.com (mx1.myoutlookonline.com [64.95.72.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055218FC19 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:30:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from st022.mx1.myoutlookonline.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.myoutlookonline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A058F78C3D7 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:11:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mail.lan Received: from mx1.myoutlookonline.com (unknown [10.110.2.1]) by mx1.myoutlookonline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E4078C3F9 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:11:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx1.myoutlookonline.com ([10.110.12.7]) by mx1.myoutlookonline.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:10:10 -0400 Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com ([209.85.214.182]) by mx1.myoutlookonline.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:10:07 -0400 Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so299213iwn.13 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.12.136 with SMTP id x8mr12473422ibx.55.1285135874190; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:11:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.166.193 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:10:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C9998A5.50907@ose.nl> References: <4C98C88A.80503@ose.nl> <4C9998A5.50907@ose.nl> From: Zbigniew Szalbot Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:10:59 +0200 Message-ID: To: Bas Smeelen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2010 06:10:07.0872 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE685800:01CB5A1C] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading from 8.0-Release / X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:30:25 -0000 Dear all, > Yes, start the upgrade from the beginning again. > If this does not work and you don't intend to rollback from a previous > update you may take a look at /var/db/freebsd-update and clean it out. OK. I know now. At some point the system asks if changes look reasonable. I pressed y for most cases but with sshd_config I pressed n, because I was not sure whether the changes will not delete some of the changes I implemented within the file. As soon as I did this, the process stopped. Does this look reasonable (y/n)? n # freebsd-update install No updates are available to install. Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch' first. The suggested changes were mostly such as: -#VersionAddendum FreeBSD-20090522 +#VersionAddendum FreeBSD-20100308 So it seems I should press y each time? Many thanks! Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 06:47:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75FC31065673 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38CF8FC1A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:47:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:47:32 +0200 Message-ID: <4C99A684.3030503@ose.nl> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:47:32 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Szalbot References: <4C98C88A.80503@ose.nl> <4C9998A5.50907@ose.nl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading from 8.0-Release / X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:47:36 -0000 On 09/22/2010 08=3A10 AM=2C Zbigniew Szalbot wrote=3A =3E Dear all=2C =3E =3E =20 =3E=3E Yes=2C start the upgrade from the beginning again=2E =3E=3E If this does not work and you don=27t intend to rollback from a prev= ious =3E=3E update you may take a look at /var/db/freebsd-update and clean it ou= t=2E =3E=3E =20 =3E OK=2E I know now=2E At some point the system asks if changes look =3E reasonable=2E I pressed y for most cases but with sshd=5Fconfig I press= ed =3E n=2C because I was not sure whether the changes will not delete some of= =3E the changes I implemented within the file=2E As soon as I did this=2C t= he =3E process stopped=2E =3E =3E Does this look reasonable =28y/n=29=3F n =3E =23 freebsd-update install =3E No updates are available to install=2E =3E Run =27/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch=27 first=2E =3E =3E The suggested changes were mostly such as=3A =3E =3E -=23VersionAddendum FreeBSD-20090522 =3E +=23VersionAddendum FreeBSD-20100308 =3E =3E So it seems I should press y each time=3F =3E =3E Many thanks! =3E =3E Zbigniew Szalbot =3E =20 OK=2E Well this is a downside of freebsd-update =28with major upgrades mostly=29=2C you have to go through these changes=2E With mergemaster=2C when doing source upgrades=2C this can be avoided by having a mergemaster=2Erc file=2C but freebsd-update uses another merge program for the config files=2E The changes that you see=3A - means this line will be deleted from the config file + means this line will be added to the config file These are the only changes that will be made to the files=2E You can confirm these changes If you are not sure=2C make a copy of your sshd=5Fconfig and go ahead=2E Before you reboot compare your copy with the =27new=27 sshd=5Fconfig and yo= u will see that your modification will still be there=2E Good luck=2E DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 07:02:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188BF106564A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7DA8FC17 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:02:37 +0200 Message-ID: <4C99AA0D.2010009@ose.nl> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:02:37 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201009212217.AA256967036@mail.Go2France.com> In-Reply-To: <201009212217.AA256967036@mail.Go2France.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Software to SEND log files only? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:02:39 -0000 On 09/21/2010 10=3A17 PM=2C Len Conrad wrote=3A =3E ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- =3E From=3A Ed Flecko =3Cedflecko=40gmail=2Ecom=3E =3E Date=3A Tue=2C 21 Sep 2010 12=3A56=3A13 -0700 =3E =3E =20 =3E=3E According to the FreeBSD website =3E=3E =28http=3A//www=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/doc/handbook/outgoing-only=2Ehtml=29= =2C the easiest =3E=3E way to send mail only is to install the mail/ssmtp port=2E =3E=3E =3E=3E Does anyone have an example of a script or other method =28maybe a c= ron =3E=3E script=3F=29 that would e-mail my log files to me daily=3F =3E=3E =20 =3E log files can be =28too=29 huge as smtp DATA=2E =20 =3E =3E I zip mine and use the mpack port to send the =2Ezip file as MIME attac= hment=2E =3E =3E Len You could install the logrotate port /usr/ports/sysutils/logrotate and switch the logfiles you want to this instead of newsyslog For webserver error logs I use something like this scripts which runs from cron =23!/bin/sh cd /home/www LOGFILES=3D=60ls */logfiles/errorlog=2Etxt=60 for i in =24LOGFILES do if =5B -s =24i =5D then tail -r -n 100 =24i =7Cmail -s =24i =3Cemail=5Faddress=3E fi done DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 07:39:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DD81065679 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timbo@psst.com.au) Received: from hal.psst.com.au (ppp07C5.dsl.pacific.net.au [203.17.45.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA878FC15 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hal.psst.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal.psst.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9401EFB77 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:36:57 +1000 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at hal.psst.com.au Received: from hal.psst.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by hal.psst.com.au (hal.psst.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ocVqXnKYP4FO for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:36:44 +1000 (EST) Received: from Holly (unknown [192.168.241.234]) by hal.psst.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2561EE842 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:36:44 +1000 (EST) From: "Tim Kerr" To: Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:25:07 +1000 Organization: PSST Software Message-ID: <000f01cb5a27$4823a0f0$d86ae2d0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: ActaJ0gTt87aY+pMS5iHtEmQOA0q8g== Content-Language: en-au Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: CYRUS IMAP cyradm core dump problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:39:54 -0000 Hi guys, I have successfully used Cyrus IMAP in the past on versions 5.x, 6.x and 7.x but am having a problem with a fresh installed ver 8.0 server when running the cyradm command I upgraded to ver 8.1, performed a portupgrade and still get the same result as follows root# cyradm 192.168.134.171 Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) root# does anyone have any ideas as to what I should be looking at to fix this ? regards, Tim Kerr From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 08:31:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AA41065674 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:31:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2ED8FC1B for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o8M8V9uO072269 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:31:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o8M8V97n072268 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00997; Wed, 22 Sep 10 01:27:15 PDT Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:27:14 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4c99bde2.5UNvzyPE5OFOH2jF%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <201009201716.o8KHGpxf013791@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20100921073722.49d49e98@scorpio> <4C98A210.4050106@stillbilde.net> <20100921085858.111b004f@scorpio> <20100921071621.0aab59e7@asus64> In-Reply-To: <20100921071621.0aab59e7@asus64> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:31:10 -0000 > > > Personally, for bulk printing, and even more so for > > > intermittent printing (the kind where ink dries up and gets > > > tossed away when you use the printer once every blue moon), > > > most users would save a _LOT_ of money by looking at a laser > > > printer instead. +1 > > > Take a good look at Xerox'es "Phaser" line (used to be > > > tektronix phaser). They're no longer pawn-your-firstborn > > > expensive, they're reliable, and they basically speak every > > > standard protocol on the market (including both Postscript > > > and PCL). ... > > The cheapest multi-function laser recommended by you is the > > Phaser 6128MFP, an obviously loss-loser. The next version is > > $1500 ... The Phaser 6130 (which uses C, M, Y, and K toner cartridges rather than the wax sticks that Tektronix introduced) was $400 about 4 years ago. > > it would be total over-kill, and a gross waste of money, > > to install one in my home. I believe Gordon Bell, the founder of DEC, once said almost exactly that about home computers :) > A couple of years ago I got very tired of buying ink cartridges. > I search and found the Samsung scx-4725fn for a very good price. > Laser, network, all-in-one. It is not color but that was not a > requirement for me. > > Just hook it up to the network and create a simple /etc/printcap > and add the ip to /etc/hosts and away you go. > > A quick search shows it can still be purchased for under $300 US. Ditto for the Samsung ML-2571N, except that it is just a printer and it was about $60 a few years ago IIRC. (I am partial to the N model, which is directly network connected. Essentially the same printer, but without the network port, goes for maybe $10 less. IMO it's well worth $10 to just plug it in and have it work.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 08:40:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1809F1065696 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdb@ssr.com) Received: from mailhost.ssr.com (mailhost.ssr.com [199.4.235.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE8848FC1C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1786 invoked by uid 103); 22 Sep 2010 08:11:17 -0000 Date: 22 Sep 2010 08:11:17 -0000 Message-ID: <20100922081117.1785.qmail@ssr.com> From: Scott Ballantyne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:40:16 -0000 Hello, I'm upgrading from FreeBSD 5.3 to 8.1 --- much wonderful work has been done clearly, I'm very impressed and hat's off to the developers. Unfortunately I've hit a snag with X. I have an LG "Flatron" W2253, a 5750 graphics card and I have not been able to get them to work with X at all. Following the handbook's instructions: Xorg -config xorg.conf.new with and without the -retro option just give me a black screen from which there is no escape. I have to log into the machine from somewhere else on the network to reboot it. Killing the Xorg process doesn't help. Following the instructions on widescreen monitors, I have extracted a modeline from the log files: Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 490 320 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "LG (GSM)" ModelName "W2253" # HorizSync 30.0 - 83.0 # VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0 ModeLine "1920x1080" 138.5 1920 1968 2000 2080 1080 1083 1088 1111 # Option "DPMS" EndSection And I have modified the screen as follows: Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1920x1080" EndSubSection EndSection None of this has helped. If anyone can assist me, I would be very grateful. Thanks a lot, Scott -- sdb@ssr.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 08:49:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A278106564A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:49:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A8B8FC1E for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyL1S-0001XZ-O8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:49:51 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8M8no7D003649 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:49:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8M8nof9003648 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:49:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:49:50 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100922084950.GA3622@current.Sisis.de> References: <20100922081117.1785.qmail@ssr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20100922081117.1785.qmail@ssr.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:49:54 -0000 El día Wednesday, September 22, 2010 a las 08:11:17AM -0000, Scott Ballantyne escribió: > Hello, > > I'm upgrading from FreeBSD 5.3 to 8.1 --- much wonderful work has been > done clearly, I'm very impressed and hat's off to the developers. > > Unfortunately I've hit a snag with X. I have an LG "Flatron" W2253, a > 5750 graphics card and I have not been able to get them to work with X > at all. > > Following the handbook's instructions: > > Xorg -config xorg.conf.new > > with and without the -retro option just give me a black screen from > which there is no escape. I have to log into the machine from > somewhere else on the network to reboot it. Killing the Xorg process > doesn't help. add: Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" to the Section "ServerLayout"; matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 09:38:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B501065673 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:38:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931E08FC1A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0486C1CC5D; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:38:05 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 0486C1CC5D DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1285148285; bh=BN5sDa9vkPr/JGX4y+H+oNgEw0XJhuOsBTbp8bSq92A=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fA+Ghp8pPUKU4Ex3wlb7/0nmaTn2Qr7Xdgdp7a/ZEWcj4RvhfBSwoKO5+XAv0U8VV PnV0F45F0EcKm+P5E7JC5B0JTTKhBEf+BTsGczps5VI1swrerkHUqWPUQ777HGDFGB g5pjtdHqv5eJa0/vWE8p4UtW2QdvqUOh/XmnL0gM= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id PIQLosV1FYCb; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:38:01 +0300 (EEST) Received: from rivendell (a91-155-174-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.174.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CC0751CC5B; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:37:58 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net CC0751CC5B Message-ID: From: "Reko Turja" To: "Tim Kerr" , References: <000f01cb5a27$4823a0f0$d86ae2d0$@com.au> In-Reply-To: <000f01cb5a27$4823a0f0$d86ae2d0$@com.au> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:38:09 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Cc: Subject: Re: CYRUS IMAP cyradm core dump problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:38:37 -0000 > I upgraded to ver 8.1, performed a portupgrade and still get the=20 > same result > as follows > > root# cyradm 192.168.134.171 The main question is - do you need kerberos/gssapi authentication on=20 your server or not? If not, the easy fix is removing libgssapiv2 libs from=20 /usr/local/lib/sasl2 For some reason, the gssapi implementation on FreeBSD 8+ is partial or=20 broken and one way for more information and possible fix for gsspai=20 see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dkern/147454 -Reko=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 10:21:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BE41065670 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4F28FC1D for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id o8MALEp6097451 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:21:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id o8MALE7O097450; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA01425; Wed, 22 Sep 10 03:17:54 PDT Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 03:17:53 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: wblock@wonkity.com Message-Id: <4c99d7d1.1MkS1aVYHJZm5wkE%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <201009201716.o8KHGpxf013791@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20100921174321.ee8d55ef.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:21:15 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > If someone comes up with a working GDI printer emulation layer, > that would make a great port. They already did, and it's already in ports. It's (part of) wine. Unfortunately it uses CUPS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 08:37:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCB5106564A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:37:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from popov@rakurs.com) Received: from webs.rakurs.com (webs.rakurs.com [81.23.105.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FA88FC15 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.rakurs.spb.ru (ns.rakurs.spb.ru [192.168.130.254]) by webs.rakurs.com (8.14.3/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o8M7xfhk005992 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:59:41 +0400 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at webs Received: from popovv (popov_v.rakurs.com [192.168.130.61]) by mail.rakurs.spb.ru (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id o8M7whh28511 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:58:43 +0400 Message-ID: <487FCFA099AB49398A558CB071504799@rakurs.com> From: "popov" To: Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:59:35 +0400 Organization: rakurs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:20:34 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: mkdonkey 3.0.4 BROKEN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: popov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:37:58 -0000 Hello! Delete mldonkey from ports: #rm /usr/ports/net-p2p/mldonkey #portsnap fetch extract Install mldonkey: # portmaster net-p2p/mldonkey get the following message: =3D=3D=3D>>> Currently installed version: mldonkey-3.0.4_1 =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/net-p2p/mldonkey =3D=3D=3D>>> This port is marked BROKEN =3D=3D=3D>>> does not build =3D=3D=3D>>> If you are sure you can build it, remove the BROKEN line in the Makefile and try again. It is strange and I do not understand what's wrong regards, Vladimir From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 11:41:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA98106567A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5DA8FC15 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so131803gxk.13 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.206.19 with SMTP id i19mr44222anq.87.1285155668463; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-077-039-064.nc.res.rr.com [71.77.39.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k11sm16239500ani.10.2010.09.22.04.41.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 538A8E5480D for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:41:05 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20100922074105.6fe741a7@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <2C27511F-D641-4CE4-97A3-EF8927FC0893@d3photography.com> References: <2C27511F-D641-4CE4-97A3-EF8927FC0893@d3photography.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Mailing list software recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:41:09 -0000 On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:34:15 -0500 Ryan Coleman articulated: > I'm thinking about installing either ezmlm or mailman. > > I'm not against others; thoughts? DADA Mail, is an excellent program. It is not in the ports system although it is on my list of things to do eventually. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Zymurgy's Law of Volunteer Labor: People are always available for work in the past tense. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 11:47:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8AC1065673 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:47:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B3E8FC1A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C19D78; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:47:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id wEWHESCpId-A; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:47:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snifi.laptop (snifi.laptop [10.0.10.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F29A67; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:47:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Maciej Milewski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, popov Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:47:24 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/9.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.5.1; i386; ; ) References: <487FCFA099AB49398A558CB071504799@rakurs.com> In-Reply-To: <487FCFA099AB49398A558CB071504799@rakurs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201009221347.25387.milu@dat.pl> Cc: Subject: Re: mkdonkey 3.0.4 BROKEN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:47:31 -0000 Wednesday 22 September 2010 09:59:35 popov napisa=B3(a): > Hello! >=20 > Delete mldonkey from ports: >=20 > #rm /usr/ports/net-p2p/mldonkey > #portsnap fetch extract >=20 > Install mldonkey: >=20 > # portmaster net-p2p/mldonkey >=20 > get the following message: >=20 > =3D=3D=3D>>> Currently installed version: mldonkey-3.0.4_1 > =3D=3D=3D>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/net-p2p/mldonkey > =3D=3D=3D>>> This port is marked BROKEN > =3D=3D=3D>>> does not build >=20 > =3D=3D=3D>>> If you are sure you can build it, remove the > BROKEN line in the Makefile and try again. >=20 >=20 > It is strange and I do not understand what's wrong > regards, > Vladimir Looking at http://www.freshports.org/net-p2p/mldonkey/ you can have earlier= =20 version than from 21.09 so it's marked as BROKEN, the version after 21.09=20 should be OK. AFAIK portsnap doesn't give you the latest ports tree just a= =20 (maybe daily) snapshot. So I think it's the problem. You have three ways: a) wait some time (maybe a day) and try again with portsnap b) use csup to sync your ports tree c) manualy download needed files for port from cvsweb=20 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/net-p2p/mldonkey/) Regards, Maciej Milewski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 11:52:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303F2106564A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B474E8FC16 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 22 Sep 2010 07:52:34 -0400 Received: from mx04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (mx04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.54]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.1.9-GA) with ESMTP id APT99743; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:51:57 -0400 Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 22 Sep 2010 07:51:57 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19609.60892.839562.459778@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:51:56 -0400 To: popov In-Reply-To: <487FCFA099AB49398A558CB071504799@rakurs.com> References: <487FCFA099AB49398A558CB071504799@rakurs.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: mkdonkey 3.0.4 BROKEN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:52:35 -0000 popov writes: > Delete mldonkey from ports: > > #rm /usr/ports/net-p2p/mldonkey > #portsnap fetch extract > > Install mldonkey: > > # portmaster net-p2p/mldonkey > > get the following message: > > ===>>> Currently installed version: mldonkey-3.0.4_1 > ===>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/net-p2p/mldonkey > ===>>> This port is marked BROKEN > ===>>> does not build > > ===>>> If you are sure you can build it, remove the > BROKEN line in the Makefile and try again. > > > It is strange and I do not understand what's wrong The first step is to contact the maintainer, who is listed in the Makefile. (When you do, please "CC" me because I;m in the sane situation.) Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 12:04:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5ED4106566C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4073A8FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A4D13.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.77.19]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o8MC4dPq002972; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:04:40 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8MC562C020314; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:05:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8MC4uaL008238; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:05:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201009221205.o8MC4uaL008238@fire.js.berklix.net> To: FreeBSD From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:41:05 EDT." <20100922074105.6fe741a7@scorpio> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:04:56 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: Mailing list software recommendations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:04:42 -0000 > > I'm thinking about installing either ezmlm or mailman. > > > > I'm not against others; thoughts? To quote my: http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD/ports/gen/mail/mailman/files/ "An agressive 5 minute killer python loop in /var/cron/tanbs/mailman has been killing my hosts for 5 years" I dont know if they fixed it. What worried me was what else might be sloppy & dangerous, & I didnt have time/ enthusiasm to do a code read through. One day, if when & after mailman has a code read through to confirm it has no more killer loops, I'd like to find time for a 2nd stab to convert all my lists on majordomo@berklix.org to mailman. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Munich 18th Sept Free Software, Lectures & Installs http://berklix.org/sdf/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 12:38:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27521065670 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:38:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFEDD8FC1D for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A4B4A78DA; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:38:07 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Matthew Seaman References: <44r5gnuk35.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <867hifasv6.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4C998E2E.8030103@infracaninophile.co.uk> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.19; tzolkin = 2 Cauac; haab = 12 Chen Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:38:07 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4C998E2E.8030103@infracaninophile.co.uk> (Matthew Seaman's message of "Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:03:42 +0100") Message-ID: <867hie6jio.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ben GUILLER Subject: Re: man.cgi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:38:08 -0000 >>>>> "Matthew" == Matthew Seaman writes: Matthew> On 21/09/2010 18:50:21, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>>> "Lowell" == Lowell Gilbert writes: >> Lowell> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/www/en/cgi/man.cgi >> >> Wow. *Ancient* Perl code. I should contribute a rewrite to modern Perl. Matthew> cvsweb.cgi or man.cgi? Or both? I bet, both. But I have no interest in helping CVS, other than to die the death it deserved many years ago. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 13:00:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92542106564A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE008FC16 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:00:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o8MCwIV3029808; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:58:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:58:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201009221258.o8MCwIV3029808@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: amvandemore@gmail.com, bruce@cran.org.uk Cc: edflecko@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software to SEND log files only? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:00:18 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 22 00:32:52 2010 > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:33:20 +0100 > From: Bruce Cran > To: Adam Vande More > Cc: Ed Flecko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Software to SEND log files only? > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:16:35 -0500 > Adam Vande More wrote: > > > That's pretty silly article if you ask me, sendmail is setup to that > > by default. > > > > just add something like this to cron: > > > > uuencode /path/to/logfile logfile | mail -s "logfile" > > youremail@example.com > > Most mail servers will block sendmail's connections from a dynamic IP: > the advantage to ssmtp is that it forwards mail to the ISP's server. *ONE* line in the sendmail config file ("smarthost"), and sendmail does the same thing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 13:08:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB221065670 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:08:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4948FC19 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:08:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8MD8OUE071300; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:08:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o8MD8OWd071297; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:08:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:08:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20100922084950.GA3622@current.Sisis.de> Message-ID: References: <20100922081117.1785.qmail@ssr.com> <20100922084950.GA3622@current.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:08:24 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:08:25 -0000 On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d?a Wednesday, September 22, 2010 a las 08:11:17AM -0000, Scott Ballantyne escribi?: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm upgrading from FreeBSD 5.3 to 8.1 --- much wonderful work has been >> done clearly, I'm very impressed and hat's off to the developers. >> >> Unfortunately I've hit a snag with X. I have an LG "Flatron" W2253, a >> 5750 graphics card and I have not been able to get them to work with X >> at all. >> >> Following the handbook's instructions: >> >> Xorg -config xorg.conf.new >> >> with and without the -retro option just give me a black screen from >> which there is no escape. I have to log into the machine from >> somewhere else on the network to reboot it. Killing the Xorg process >> doesn't help. > > add: > > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" > > to the Section "ServerLayout"; Please, no. http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 13:14:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C16106564A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9868D8FC1B for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8MDEBUF071324; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:14:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o8MDEBa1071321; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:14:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:14:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Scott Ballantyne In-Reply-To: <20100922081117.1785.qmail@ssr.com> Message-ID: References: <20100922081117.1785.qmail@ssr.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:14:11 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:14:13 -0000 On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Scott Ballantyne wrote: > I'm upgrading from FreeBSD 5.3 to 8.1 --- much wonderful work has been > done clearly, I'm very impressed and hat's off to the developers. > > Unfortunately I've hit a snag with X. I have an LG "Flatron" W2253, a > 5750 graphics card and I have not been able to get them to work with X > at all. > > Following the handbook's instructions: > > Xorg -config xorg.conf.new > > with and without the -retro option just give me a black screen from > which there is no escape. Does the black screen show a mouse pointer? No escape including ctrl-alt-f1? > I have to log into the machine from somewhere else on the network to > reboot it. Killing the Xorg process doesn't help. Try running X without an xorg.conf. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 13:20:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD9D1065694 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:20:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85C88FC16 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:20:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyPFQ-0002Vo-K0; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:20:32 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8MDKW3O005808; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:20:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8MDKVnq005807; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:20:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:20:31 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20100922132031.GA5692@current.Sisis.de> References: <20100922081117.1785.qmail@ssr.com> <20100922084950.GA3622@current.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:20:39 -0000 El día Wednesday, September 22, 2010 a las 07:08:24AM -0600, Warren Block escribió: > > add: > > > > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" > > > > to the Section "ServerLayout"; > > Please, no. > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html Nice. But with HALD I could not manage sound to work in KDE :-( matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 13:24:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E63106564A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0476B8FC14 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-157-147.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.157.147]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826F63D7CE; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:24:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8MDOjjg001520; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:24:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:24:45 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Bruce Cran Message-Id: <20100922152445.f72f7925.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100922063320.00007843@unknown> References: <20100922063320.00007843@unknown> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software to SEND log files only? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:24:48 -0000 On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:33:20 +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: > Most mail servers will block sendmail's connections from a dynamic IP: > the advantage to ssmtp is that it forwards mail to the ISP's server. That's sadly true (mostly because of the amounts of spam produced by ordinary PCs on dynamic IPs). But sendmail has a fine solution for that, erm, problem: define(`SMART_HOST', `mx.foo.bar') It's often useful to have the ISP's MX handle that problem, as it usually has a static IP and is "widely accepted". :-) This workaround makes it possible again to use basic techniques of communications that were common in "the good days", as it should be. This way plain sendmail can be used. Maybe masquerading envelope is also needed, but I'm not entirely sure. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 13:56:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EAB106566C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdsfbsd@att.net) Received: from smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.65.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 568A68FC18 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 74247 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2010 13:29:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1285162175; bh=IvHDdE3jpk9ZDvlJaPZe4a51MYTNjq0mN0oJWqgjsA4=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=vpkUZUHtnYuruwoGIv7HK8hhrh96o4da+LNLpXbHBtIPutpLhS7Q9xf3r7SYDVILbgIP3W6gLEvamZe0csZxqh3E1auSR8yODzQA2wY2gEj+NxnmGDMDOuzjPNHdIz+5SWcOarpUKH4puribjq0T1bnnsqvn+uSM9ZV3y5/ErD0= Received: from ack5833s2.ad.service.osu.edu (bdsfbsd@128.146.175.36 with login) by smtp127.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2010 06:29:35 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: d5tX3UiswBBe7eAro3WwBCIcMc7tMmv23kUXyA-- X-YMail-OSG: mR9D428VM1mNPqo7x99QYgWELZx1ehh65NXsEvlg_H3zveG jNtarbkcPSWRS1K6JPp2e4d9dE8OHP.g.GOTM78iOcRxidGdaGaHKa4tzZWU CNkpvSSWuqGyvl_sHf9M6Y0AT7t5f3T7yPPAK_e2ClCDIkWLAJcYYoPiUJyX 922LPZ3w1yLvqQh5c8igafpfdgh_Vl4pRLqLbxCT3Pfv7qH5E.3Pc0tV_hlA Y2kuyW7caTRjTpaxcuaoV4RbhWbweHX3SKACgN.BojYWGJqsAPAVIinhx_1A - X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Scott Ballantyne" References: <20100922081117.1785.qmail@ssr.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:29:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: bdsfbsd@att.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20100922081117.1785.qmail@ssr.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.62 (Win32) Cc: Subject: Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:56:15 -0000 On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:11:17 -0400, Scott Ballantyne wrote: [snip] > Unfortunately I've hit a snag with X. I have an LG "Flatron" W2253, a > 5750 graphics card and I have not been able to get them to work with X > at all. > > Following the handbook's instructions: > > Xorg -config xorg.conf.new > > with and without the -retro option just give me a black screen from > which there is no escape. I have to log into the machine from > somewhere else on the network to reboot it. Killing the Xorg process > doesn't help. > So if you return to the tty that you started X from (maybe by Alt-F1) and hit Ctrl-C, that doesn't kill your X session? Reboot seems a bit drastic. > Following the instructions on widescreen monitors, I have extracted a > modeline from the log files: > [snip] > > None of this has helped. If anyone can assist me, I would be very > grateful. > > Thanks a lot, > Scott I struggled with widescreen config for a while until I realized the Tao solution was best - have you tried starting X without any /etc/X11/xorg.conf at all? Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 15:06:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9268510656C8 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52F358FC26 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 46451 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Sep 2010 15:06:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1285167973; bh=xdjmxttwYwX8TXNgLfL1U/aLHaahJjUgEKkWUDtAys4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hqc9HDLrx1308NvIVEpdLiQTEO8JuKrhYxYcDj/uSc8raV3JsAUeE5/9WStK8ioPFbi22bje60ly+PjZpIz7xg9fMnh52kaXKWVPPjPzKpYWYX+RHUWabrbJMamBnwZR8c6B+fGE4xaphT36kvbTtjxey595dBkzOr9pglqFVT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QEqs9/6sFBJPnVK7F9F/8ZtEfAEIj5g2GOceEilouN20IggixZ6kA/YkoUGlvPiRMrt7n0Tj1oEh22fO5qCVQlCUvLZHw4D4wZI7lahU2t1EuZ6jpZbxTxxZOcWd+MSs1uptCbb8cerTjt7lwCurmxN0imwotdjCIhPtPV+P0aM=; Message-ID: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ppkdDhoVM1mOeVs_K_ihIXZBsj64bSUvvy3KciR6l.ldOSr 3wsiRlcQ9z.6RIYyQHT23ovk7sLAOF35nGG08YqnHIShRbZKv6PYLaDeelpg eCgkL4nzcLBNa7tihgOej5vc6oed9Q2IQBlbmQwSo39KhgV2mlyoNDeb9lQL qpRWX.6tV8dX3_yY4qJM_DkhlCj_SMi33gArDGlfkUBhPina0hSxdXGhxYwK x8QyDBeSzbsNbrl3qarlblCgoyRrNyhUKaezjJS4FTS0cKdUXaYWzOleXuA- - Received: from [94.21.228.238] by web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:06:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/497 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:06:13 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:59:00 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: migrate system disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:06:14 -0000 Hello,=0A=0AI have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that = HDD stands as my =0Asystem disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migra= te the FreeBSD 8.1 from =0Athe old disk to the new one?=0A=0Athank you!=0AL= aszlo=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 16:06:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25981065693 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8394E8FC17 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-219-100.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.219.100]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBAEE217B6; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:06:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8MG6lQJ001634; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:06:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:06:46 +0200 From: Polytropon To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= Message-Id: <20100922180646.2abcb760.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrate system disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:06:50 -0000 On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:06:13 -0700 (PDT), D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD stands= as my=20 > system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migrate the FreeBSD 8.1= from=20 > the old disk to the new one? Are you running ZFS or UFS on that disk? If UFS, go with the classical way: use dump + restore. There's a very good example in the handbook. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/backup-basics.html Also look here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D11680 Use a FreeBSD live system CD or DVD to prepare the target disk (install boot code, make slices and partitions); you can also use sysinstall to do that. Then go with dump + restore. You'll find more hints when searching the mailing list archive. If you're on ZFS, use ZFS's tools to export and re-import the pool, quite simple. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 16:43:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6DF1065693 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:43:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBA18FC1C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so799882iwn.13 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:43:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aAdvuM6WfJ011uryc8P5Lkb9vYqhb9pFZlhuM6h9SDo=; b=TMdeWdXZz46owtrX8KGLyFmziqDCvf+uIA89oMo+G8MctIln7FEYfs0cJks9pajCni vZF8SzaqWiwUsFiTLoT7fL9IPXsKAogGtx7XhrVOyd1KS0CSuHUQJkjdKD/Url+H/c+K iTl+cxmH5gLSx5EjqU1PKgqW6tEMpB0jBEkp4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=IPPGsBFRSpsIYATQiaxLadtlgd/aqjqLHzEUoG2HvXhm6Yi++5Mo9gbWWT2hmYAhoF ll8ZW9vsYsiknLl2nBWlZwPjVUmP+61nvY2v93bgHnzT7zpJipZy3TBEoCU7FDfp6Udf +5A9Vjg5X1GpMIczAPSUkzq5zYjmH18ZzbnvM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.15.138 with SMTP id k10mr413956iba.17.1285173784593; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.186.137 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:43:04 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Will FBSD Squid "port" create squid user and group? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:43:05 -0000 Hi folks, I guess this is a two-faceted question: 1.) If I install Squid from a "port", will in create the recommended squid user and group for me, or will I need to pre-create a squid user and group prior to Squid running? I like the idea of modifying SQUID_CONFIGURE_ARGS in the squid port Makefile to customize the software before I compile and install it, but if it doesn't create the user and group for you...what advantage do you gain to install from a port -vs- downloading the tarball and building from source? :-) 2.) "As a general rule", when you install software that needs a special user/group, will those users/groups be created when you install from ports, or only from packages? Thank you, Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 17:16:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC6010657F2 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:16:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from espada.jorge@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D8D8FC20 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywt2 with SMTP id 2so303321ywt.13 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:16:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8E92m5NwVMRxZae0GisudJQZMkz/f0BgxKIcnNQqPJY=; b=A/QPZDW7O0cqTLabhaWyijc+thN2l2kDX3qACmHoNxAbMfHJNq4bzCVuRuVl/4Bgse 1WvH47OwbGcfBwDBWYNz2LEfHKlU1QHXAomLs6p1aT8haMViZH5icgZSbuk261Q08mRA iReMH9h09DgC9anZd+PNx7Dsu9lbcHWSvBJAE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Qd2PujUlzZntVryUnxuENyvZo7M1IPE66/dV8jBl1gbABMCIlrMLgQZUUQuq+V8yt4 eqQIWi4her1UsQ6Zm1yI9jNwEIGs7V8lZBdIWf/bMzKPKpczOjIfjtCvoL/3sWZhSrXf fWMtXEvCimVsI4LOGfxGhzK1ZjgtBBDnPcklg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.153.14 with SMTP id f14mr1340891ybo.396.1285175810334; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.91.21 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:16:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100921182140.GF39824@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <20100921182140.GF39824@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:16:50 -0300 Message-ID: From: jorge espada To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Intel video Driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:16:52 -0000 I need my laptop to work..so I removed freebsd 8.1 and installed gentoo so I can't post the output of pciconf -lv, but I want freebsd...so if anyone knows how to sort this problem please share... Jorge E. Espada Phone: +54 9 341 5692435 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth jorge espada on Tuesday, 21 September 2010: > > Hi, I installed freebsd 8.1 (gnome) on a dell vostro 3300 (i5), but the > > screen resolution is 800x600, when the right is 1366x768, is there any > > driver for VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor > > Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) > > Thanks > > > > Jorge E. Espada > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Can you post the output of > > pciconf -lv > > I think you may be waiting for the same update to xf86-video-intel that I > am. > > -- > Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F > http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | > http://chipsquips.com > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 17:21:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631201065670 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A52B8FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24823 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Sep 2010 17:20:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1285176056; bh=/I2qnq7thanSrIayHHlQBrZzl1ujPvTx5tjSUU+wFYs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F8DyTZ1jY8q2aFhU8YAHl/virqxpHXXJWk9iwYEuGgclSQoeSB5QmFnqwCteHhoi9tWi6nkC2nsZTR/Cdb1URcFYp7nkbp6k8jyCqB5cU6l/m0SUgrenMxS86rtru7DCaqdcSAgpVwpKCHGNA+F21+7YRsXEAhqwthTEdQ+jFBQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K5/dVH7u9SJ3698ONG8p7Me0Sfnx+yXUalnu9bPY7tCHBE7qGYuWKJayOOS55QFzM+DA7PGtVXMSzPAAK088QTUrjsqhluFGfyLxRUuF2TM8kxWgoum6/GD7vWuVwYPri2SbZkC21bAcat+k8mk9Wk913BGaN3I37jBkgtQcapE=; Message-ID: <417571.12469.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mTnsMR4VM1lGfFWeTApAoaN21Y5x5HBaY5JQx4gg57P21HH sdtCv1dnuczK6vhTrvQX5_GRtU74Z.s6L_i9KvlM81_u_msqtQ3yZgI0FPcs RbU1hxbkgaqM2amsEZ2T0GRP64dqQP8SzPfMtmXetpwCUGQudsXQ8PEgjxdf 9E1MaYJy7Qhl8DvWY3BSXInSItV05QqhGPCsoxlVcm_EFGip0C84dq3NQhgk SpHlOkHLWpDcIUzEzEaeIzu7To5oX6TbWq8Yj7oRIlrT6Doi2Bq26LuKBQht MaCjvP18oklsBe0gxQl0qApsJmlZT6Xi37d3Rs6y_fzFosXyuaKxdJIAv Received: from [78.131.57.57] by web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:20:56 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/497 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 References: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100922180646.2abcb760.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:20:56 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100922180646.2abcb760.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: migrate system disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:21:01 -0000 I'm using UFS.=0AThank you!=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________= =0AFrom: Polytropon =0ATo: D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 =0ACc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Wed, Sept= ember 22, 2010 6:06:46 PM=0ASubject: Re: migrate system disk=0A=0AOn Wed, 2= 2 Sep 2010 08:06:13 -0700 (PDT), D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 =0A wrote:=0A> Hello,=0A> =0A> I have an old HDD which should be r= eplaced soon, actually that HDD stands as my =0A>=0A> system disk, what is = your suggesion, how should I migrate the FreeBSD 8.1 from =0A=0A> the old d= isk to the new one?=0A=0AAre you running ZFS or UFS on that disk? If UFS, g= o with the=0Aclassical way: use dump + restore. There's a very good example= =0Ain the handbook.=0A=0A http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/backup-bas= ics.html=0A=0AAlso look here:=0A=0A http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread= .php?t=3D11680=0A=0AUse a FreeBSD live system CD or DVD to prepare the targ= et disk=0A(install boot code, make slices and partitions); you can also=0Au= se sysinstall to do that.=0A=0AThen go with dump + restore. You'll find mor= e hints when searching=0Athe mailing list archive.=0A=0AIf you're on ZFS, u= se ZFS's tools to export and re-import the=0Apool, quite simple.=0A=0A=0A= =0A-- =0APolytropon=0AMagdeburg, Germany=0AHappy FreeBSD user since 4.0=0AA= ndra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 17:21:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC72106566C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:21:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51ED38FC15 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:21:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-219-100.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.219.100]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA291E723; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:21:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8MHLQK5008610; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:21:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:21:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ed Flecko Message-Id: <20100922192126.93663dd2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Will FBSD Squid "port" create squid user and group? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:21:31 -0000 On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:43:04 -0700, Ed Flecko wrote: > I like the idea of modifying > SQUID_CONFIGURE_ARGS in the squid port Makefile to customize the > software before I compile and install it, [...] Instead of modifying the Makefile itself, consider writing your changes into a Makefile.local which will be used to override settings in Makefile. At least, it worked that way in the past... > [...] what advantage do you gain to install from a > port -vs- downloading the tarball and building from source? Using packages always gives you the DEFAULT settings the corresponding port was built with. If you need to change those settings, use the port, Luke. :-) > 2.) "As a general rule", when you install software that needs a > special user/group, will those users/groups be created when you > install from ports, or only from packages? As far as I remember, those "post-installation tasks" will be done in both cases. So port AND package will create them. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 17:27:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388B2106564A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E968FC14 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so265896ewy.13 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:27:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.6.203 with SMTP id a11mr1027456eba.38.1285176426299; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.29.76 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:27:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [69.91.158.134] In-Reply-To: <201009220024.o8M0OBhW024398@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <201009220024.o8M0OBhW024398@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:27:05 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:27:08 -0000 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Robert Bonomi w= rote: > A) *THEY* developed the interface specifications. They license printer > manufacurers to build to it. =A0 They _would_ obejct if somebody used > their technology to compete against them. > > B) As it is, to _use_ one of those printers, you *HAVE*TO*BY* a MS O/S. > =A0 if one could use those printers -without- a MS O/S, that is a > =A0 'provable' loss in MS O/S sales -- one sales loss for -each- non-MS > =A0 system that has such a printer attached. If this were true, and there really were a big conspiracy on Microsoft's part to make manufacturers only support Windows, then you wouldn't see cheap printers that support both Windows and MacOS X. In reality, such printers are pretty easy to find. Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by simple economics. = ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 17:31:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D396106564A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from mail.nagual.nl (524948AF.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl [82.73.72.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF36F8FC18 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:31:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.11.34] (192.168.11.34) by westmark.nagual.nl (Axigen) with (AES256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 3B9850; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:25:17 +0200 Message-ID: <4C9A3D60.8090204@nagual.nl> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:31:12 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nl; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-AxigenVirus-Level: 1 Subject: Re: migrate system disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:31:13 -0000 On 22-9-2010 17:06, Dánielisz László wrote: > I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD stands as my > system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migrate the FreeBSD 8.1 from > the old disk to the new one? Attach the new disk to your system and do a dump / restore action (man dump/restore for options). The FreeBSD manual has very good examples. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 17:34:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD4010656C4 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:34:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mail.gelita.se (212-162-182-244.skbbip.com [212.162.182.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB358FC21 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.gelita.se (localhost.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA2D10EE05; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:35:11 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at troback.com Received: from mail.gelita.se ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.gelita.se (mail.gelita.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9xkcQTO3gTQp; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:35:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mail.gelita.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7BF10EE04; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:35:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C9A3E32.7030008@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:34:42 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100918 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= References: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20100922180646.2abcb760.freebsd@edvax.de> <417571.12469.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <417571.12469.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrate system disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:34:42 -0000 On 2010-09-22 19:20, Dánielisz László wrote: > I'm using UFS. > Thank you! > > > > I've just done that myself and by chance I found out that ghost4linux can copy a disk with UFS file systems. So if you don't have to worry about other partition sizes, you could try it. You will find on the Parted magic disk http://partedmagic.com/ /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 17:39:54 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45619106566C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9E98FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (dsl253-036-039.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.253.36.39]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E32E42968A; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:39:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C9A3F68.3070309@cyberleo.net> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:39:52 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100911 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Polyack References: <4C99718A.7020405@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4C99718A.7020405@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: compat4x broken in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:39:54 -0000 On 09/21/2010 10:01 PM, Steve Polyack wrote: > ... > options COMPAT_IA32 # Compatible with i386 binaries > ... > $ file /usr/local/ventrilo-server/ventrilo_srv > /usr/local/ventrilo-server/ventrilo_srv: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, > Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), > for FreeBSD 4.5, stripped > $ ldd /usr/local/ventrilo-server/ventrilo_srv > ldd: /usr/bin/ldd32: Exec format error I ran into this exact error message when I upgraded one amd64 machine from 8.0 to 8.1, and didn't read UPDATING close enough. Apparently COMPAT_IA32 was renamed to COMPAT_FREEBSD32 (20100406), and the new kernel I built lacked support for 32-bit binaries. UPDATING now says (20100417) that COMPAT_IA32 is an alias for COMPAT_FREEBSD32, but it could be something to double check in your case. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 17:57:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341081065670 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:57:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8DB28FC19 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so322769gyg.13 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.31.14 with SMTP id e14mr639689ane.46.1285178226469; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-077-039-064.nc.res.rr.com [71.77.39.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f22sm16657554anh.24.2010.09.22.10.57.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E9D27E5480D for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:57:03 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20100922135703.7cbd5f26@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <201009220024.o8M0OBhW024398@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:57:08 -0000 On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:27:05 -0700 David Brodbeck articulated: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Robert Bonomi > wrote: > > A) *THEY* developed the interface specifications. They license > > printer manufacurers to build to it.   They _would_ obejct if > > somebody used their technology to compete against them. > > > > B) As it is, to _use_ one of those printers, you *HAVE*TO*BY* a MS > > O/S. if one could use those printers -without- a MS O/S, that is a > >   'provable' loss in MS O/S sales -- one sales loss for -each- > > non-MS system that has such a printer attached. > > If this were true, and there really were a big conspiracy on > Microsoft's part to make manufacturers only support Windows, then you > wouldn't see cheap printers that support both Windows and MacOS X. In > reality, such printers are pretty easy to find. I just heard a rumor that FreeBSD is secretly in collusion with Microsoft and the printer manufacturer's consortium to advance the usage of printers on the Win32/64 platform. By refusing to create an environment in which printers can use tested and certified drivers on a non-windows operating system, they are secretly contributing to Microsoft's continued domination in the PC market. Slash-Dot will unequivocally be denying the accuracy of this story; however, we all are aware that they are secretly being paid by the EC in an attempt to diminish Microsoft's market share. Unfortunately, I cannot substantiate these claims; however, as has been demonstrated numerous times on this forum, documentation of subversive acts is not a requirement. In fact, it might well be called counter-productive. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. Mark Twain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 17:58:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5806E1065673 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f72.google.com (mail-gw0-f72.google.com [74.125.83.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1322C8FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwaa18 with SMTP id a18so1044406gwa.7 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:58:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.202.73 with SMTP id fd9mr212143vcb.4.1285178323462; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:58:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <90e6ba4fc2067170350490dce5ce@google.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:58:43 +0000 From: vrwmiller@gmail.com To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: Media Packages Vs. Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:58:45 -0000 Thanks, Adam. This is most helpful. I appreciate it. On Sep 21, 2010 3:55pm, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:41 AM, vrwmiller@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > I am performing PXE boots and automated installs of FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE > with a custom sysinstall.cfg file which identifies packages that are to > be installed in addition to the distributions. We have need to install > compat6x-amd64 and I'd like to have this done during install. > Unfortunately, it does not appear that this package exists in the FreeBSD > media from which the install occurs. However, it is available through the > ports collection. > You'll probably want to do something like this: > http://bsdbased.com/2010/03/23/freebsd-binary-package-repository-howto > FWIW, that's not the end all, be all to setting up your own package > repository just a reasonably simple method. > What is the relationship between the packages directory on the media and > the ports collection? > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/packages-using.html > Packages associated with a RELEASE also ultimately come from the ports > tree. However, those RELEASE packages come from a ports tree that was put > into slush, then frozen. This means those packages had more testing and > tweaking. > Is it possible to take a port, make a package of it and put it in the > packages directory of my own media? > Sure it's easy. When build a port you can issue a make package command, > or you can use pkg_create to create packages from installed ported. A > common approach to this is build all your updates in a jail, make > packages of them, then delete package from the host and install the newly > built ones from the jail. Very small, if any downtime. You can use the > jail to create pkg's for a custom repository too. > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg228757.html > -- > Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 18:40:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12281065672 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4818FC0A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyx24 with SMTP id 24so296909eyx.13 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:40:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.6.203 with SMTP id a11mr1113274eba.38.1285180850729; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.29.76 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:40:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [69.91.158.134] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:40:50 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:40:52 -0000 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Peter A. Giessel wrote= : > The question you are missing is *HOW* does MacOS X print to all these > "cheap printers"? > > Lets take a couple of screen captures from Mac OS X.6 (Apple's latest > released > OS) with all current updates installed: > http://giessel.org/pictures/OSX_printers1.png > http://giessel.org/pictures/OSX_printers2.png > > Hmm, CUPS, and Gutenprint.... =A0Are these methods available for FreeBSD? In some cases, yes. In other cases, where the manufacturer is supplying an OS X driver that doesn't come with CUPS/Gutenprint, the additional driver bits may not be FreeBSD-compatible. I may be the only person here who actually likes CUPS. Yes, it's complicated from a software standpoint, but configuring it is much less opaque. Printers really are complicated, so having a GUI to help set them up is nice. I remember having to manually write and debug filter scripts and edit /etc/printcap by hand, and I'm quite glad those days are over. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 19:03:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3683B10657CF for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA028FC28 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.47.0.110] (newtao.thought.org [10.47.0.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8MJ3AmN059360; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:03:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: kline To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: References: <4C990766.7080305@nagual.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Thought Unlimited Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:03:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1285182195.2803.15.camel@newtao> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: Dick Hoogendijk , FreeBSD Subject: Re: printcap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:03:17 -0000 On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 19:57 -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > > > Can somebody point me to some information about what to write into > > /etc/printcap on a FreeBSD machine for a Laserjet that is connected though > > CUPS on an OpenSolaris server? > > It's not clear how that printer is connected. If it's on the network > itself, you should be able to send jobs directly to it. If the printer > is connected by USB or something else to the server, CUPS might still > accept jobs from lpr. (Untested, but it's a print server, after all.) > > Network printing from printcap (among other things) is shown here: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html > > Well, and in the Handbook, too. By Jove, this actually works... but from ethic, so far. "ethic == ns1"; i wonder if this will work on my "newtao" which is ubuntu. FWIW, I AM having more trouble transitioning after some N years since 2.0.5... . lp|b5250| Brother HL-5250-DN | PSgs;r=1200x1200;q=high;c=full;p=letter;m=auto:\ :lp=:\ :sh:\ :mx#0:\ :rm=netlaser:\ :rp=raw:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: If _anybody_ onlist uses FreeBSD as their server and some version of Linux elsewhere **and** have a network-type printer, please clue me in. ((Exactly this reason--_printers_--has kept me from trying anything but *BSD.)) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org http://journey.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 19:04:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E011065672 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from mail.nagual.nl (524948AF.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl [82.73.72.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5BC8FC13 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.11.34] (192.168.11.34) by westmark.nagual.nl (Axigen) with (AES256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 21C557; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:58:31 +0200 Message-ID: <4C9A5339.80200@nagual.nl> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:04:25 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nl; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-AxigenVirus-Level: 1 Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:04:26 -0000 On 22-9-2010 20:40, David Brodbeck wrote: > OI may be the only person here who actually likes CUPS. Yes, it's > complicated from a software standpoint, but configuring it is much > less opaque. You're certainly not the only one liking CUPS. I long hesitated to use it, but once I'd decided to do so, I wouldn't go back to lpr. No way. It's very easy to set up and does a great job. CUPS is OK but most FreeBSD people don't seem to think so. I don't get it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 19:24:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759721065679 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:24:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA1F8FC08 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so895863iwn.13 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:24:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OO2+FaHcXOIigt79WNhnadKzf8LbetAgfYQzaeyqmF4=; b=Xyt/FrL3xVFEai3UZ1iOCooB2OW9sWqIWjvorpfa7xR0Si5OIPI9qJUO3HFBrqIzfZ S5FWt7A/TanD5gMzGzQspAFVv6bIo2URSTjVsVga4yo6X4Fe03TWb3aF3Xno3VpEZm+s PiGptcwfaNhY0lvpTPvHWt6MK0Hatr1II1IoU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lZGEMiQxQVfbgaIJAfE/rdEn5rVocQZF+UpsXR2DqUzfSuoUq+DLrPRgM3x6djbUef wTQYwjtKRFEoFtoStYAkx+XPWIklxL8oW4mRbCUfQXbwRb2jy0fyGRWBF+/xMkYzFGdf hcfp0uA+/tDCrwzYNVINiTQsYoS41uz0v1BZU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.149.3 with SMTP id r3mr575707ibv.109.1285183491407; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.186.137 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:24:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:24:51 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [squid-users] One slow Website Through Proxy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:24:52 -0000 What about running a packet sniffer, like Wireshark, and looking at the trace file? Start a trace file before trying to access the web site, then took at the "Delta time" (time between packets) and see where the delay is? Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 19:28:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CD8106566C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.wilcox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D63A8FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxn35 with SMTP id 35so369807yxn.13 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:28:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=i6aBCwZIGMAwl7dGjG9YOAf16eME4X4+h6vd4ieY6nI=; b=kB7AWU5vUIcht2Po89LwVNHC3xdJEbATK7hWto2BTbwiBcvu7wdvR7vckqWm9RQFSb XzXjiojAwgO2mR1jvOdDeBm04qgpLEi0wTVP5ICHLQ2QSeMVdMPvr1PpmrqBtz0Kq2Jz QJaBnFaMUiy6nqSfj/rX9OFDfo32DSTDIlKt4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=SHHHstWTIKrNUw0BbfgkhBBCVwyfPNPGikawzFAyubB7I9f4eu1bF781bd2IeVEZ/M mRmRc1Vu56UqKqwgunWj+L4pnJk/HRd7mgYssj4MgUSe8+b3XHaSQ9nt4C0/39IiM/QX nllk9P43YXJpRTByCSXFXDIxPAQec/GT7Zg3c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.82.17 with SMTP id f17mr1122747agb.141.1285183710671; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.10.19 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:28:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100921182140.GF39824@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:28:30 -0400 Message-ID: From: Kevin Wilcox To: jorge espada Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel video Driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:28:31 -0000 On 22 September 2010 13:16, jorge espada wrote: > I need my laptop to work..so I removed freebsd 8.1 and installed gentoo so I > can't post the output of pciconf -lv, but I want freebsd...so if anyone > knows how to sort this problem please share... To resolve a combination dual-head, Nvidia, Virtualbox and 8GB ram issue I had, I had to move to Gentoo and run FBSD in a VM for those times I wanted to use FBSD for something. It isn't the cleanest solution but it works for me, both under Gentoo in the office, VMWare Fusion on the Macbook and Windows 7 at home. kmw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 19:35:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3501065670 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5CE8FC18 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8MJZJEn035497 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:35:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C9A5A70.2020201@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:35:12 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C9A5339.80200@nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: <4C9A5339.80200@nagual.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBA9CB7065F84C4956A9C37A9" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:35:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBA9CB7065F84C4956A9C37A9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22/09/2010 20:04:25, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > On 22-9-2010 20:40, David Brodbeck wrote: >> OI may be the only person here who actually likes CUPS. Yes, it's >> complicated from a software standpoint, but configuring it is much >> less opaque. >=20 > You're certainly not the only one liking CUPS. I long hesitated to use > it, but once I'd decided to do so, I wouldn't go back to lpr. No way. > It's very easy to set up and does a great job. CUPS is OK but most > FreeBSD people don't seem to think so. I don't get it. CUPS is really nice *when it works*. If you're lucky and have managed to buy the right sort of printer hardware, and the Gods are smiling upon you, then CUPS will serve you well. On the other hand, when CUPS is bad, it is truly awful. Excessively hard to debug; impossible to fix without Guru-level powers. One of those "No user serviceable parts inside" sort of things. CUPS works brilliantly when I plug my printer's USB cable directly into my Mac. But I've never yet managed to print to exactly the same printer via CUPS when it is plugged into my FreeBSD server. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigBA9CB7065F84C4956A9C37A9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyaWncACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxgcQCcCAr7iOhPEl8N5OGAgC1cFA7I jLUAn0WzsrybfJ1aOlj0F2eqZ4TkX4Wy =ndXp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBA9CB7065F84C4956A9C37A9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 19:36:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A2E1065674 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:36:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout015.mac.com (asmtpout015.mac.com [17.148.16.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCA68FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:36:30 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Received: from Blue-Star-2.local ([12.12.31.232]) by asmtp015.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0L95002AZVOQDQ20@asmtp015.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:36:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1004200000 definitions=main-1009220155 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.0.10011,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2010-09-22_09:2010-09-22, 2010-09-22, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:36:29 -0800 From: "Peter A. Giessel" To: David Brodbeck X-Priority: 3 In-reply-to: Message-id: X-Mailer: Mailsmith 2.2.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:36:30 -0000 On 2010/09/22 at 9:27, gull@gull.us (David Brodbeck) wrote: >If this were true, and there really were a big conspiracy on >Microsoft's part to make manufacturers only support Windows, then you >wouldn't see cheap printers that support both Windows and MacOS X. In >reality, such printers are pretty easy to find. > >Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by simple economics. ;) The question you are missing is *HOW* does MacOS X print to all these "cheap printers"? Lets take a couple of screen captures from Mac OS X.6 (Apple's latest released OS) with all current updates installed: http://giessel.org/pictures/OSX_printers1.png http://giessel.org/pictures/OSX_printers2.png Hmm, CUPS, and Gutenprint.... Are these methods available for FreeBSD? Mainly what Apple did was pre-install and pre-configure in a user-friendly way CUPS and Gutenprint. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 20:01:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005F4106564A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B049C8FC14 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8MK1BSV072765; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:01:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o8MK1Bil072762; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:01:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:01:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20100922132031.GA5692@current.Sisis.de> Message-ID: References: <20100922081117.1785.qmail@ssr.com> <20100922084950.GA3622@current.Sisis.de> <20100922132031.GA5692@current.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:01:11 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:01:13 -0000 On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d?a Wednesday, September 22, 2010 a las 07:08:24AM -0600, Warren Block escribi?: > >>> add: >>> >>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "false" >>> >>> to the Section "ServerLayout"; >> >> Please, no. >> >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html > > Nice. But with HALD I could not manage sound to work in KDE :-( But you don't need hal, you can build xorg-server without it or use Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" instead of AEI Off. (No idea on what might cause hal/KDE sound interaction.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 20:10:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC72106564A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:10:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276F98FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [208.206.78.30] (port=55809 helo=dt.vicor.com) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OyVeF-0000zm-JU; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:10:37 -0700 From: Devin Teske To: Steve Polyack In-Reply-To: <1285185367.9943.90.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4C99718A.7020405@comcast.net> <1285185367.9943.90.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Vicor, Inc Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:10:35 -0700 Message-Id: <1285186235.9943.95.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-41.el4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scan-Signature: aab68dd18345206899194faade59a7dd X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Cc: Devin Teske , User Questions Subject: Re: compat4x broken in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:10:41 -0000 On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 12:56 -0700, Devin Teske wrote: > You're missing "COMPAT_43" ... that seems serious and likely to be the > cause of your "Exec format" error (below). Heh, you don't get anymore *legacy* than that option. That option went missing years ago (should remove that from our kernel configs). It's actually exactly what CyberLeo Kitsans said... On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 12:39 -0500, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > I ran into this exact error message when I upgraded one amd64 machine > from 8.0 to 8.1, and didn't read UPDATING close enough. Apparently > COMPAT_IA32 was renamed to COMPAT_FREEBSD32 (20100406), and the new > kernel I built lacked support for 32-bit binaries. UPDATING now says > (20100417) that COMPAT_IA32 is an alias for COMPAT_FREEBSD32, but it > could be something to double check in your case. > During the upgrade process, I think your kernel config lost something COMPAT_FREEBSD32 which used to be COMPAT_IA32 (as CyberLeo quickly picked up on). -- Cheers, Devin Teske -> CONTACT INFORMATION <- Business Solutions Consultant II FIS - fisglobal.com 510-735-5650 Mobile 510-621-2038 Office 510-621-2020 Office Fax 909-477-4578 Home/Fax devin.teske@fisglobal.com -> LEGAL DISCLAIMER <- This message contains confidential and proprietary information of the sender, and is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any use, distribution, copying or disclosure by any other person is strictly prohibited. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:22:02 -0000 On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 23:01 -0400, Steve Polyack wrote: > Is anyone else having issues using compat4x / running FreeBSD 4 > binaries on 8.1-RELEASE? At our shop, we're currently running 150+ 4.11-compiled i386 binaries on FreeBSD-8.1 amd64. No problems found yet, but there were gotchas (keep reading). > The requisite package is installed I assume you're talking about the "compat4x" package (specifically compat4x-i386-5.3_9). You might interested to know that if you're trying to fully support 4.x binaries on 8.1, you should also install the following package: compat5x-amd64-5.4.0.8_11 We've noticed here in our shop that not all 4.x shared-libraries are available in the compat4x package. To get all the shared-libraries that we were linking against in 4.x, we also had to install the compat5x package. Specifically, we found these 4.x shared-libraries were missing from compat4x (at minimum; I'm sure there is more but the below list encompases the ones that we ourselves needed): /usr/local/lib32/compat/libcam.so.2 /usr/local/lib32/compat/libsbuf.so.2 /usr/local/lib32/compat/libz.so.2 > $ grep -ir compat /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/PFSYNC-MFIB > options COMPAT_43TTY # BSD 4.3 TTY compat (sgtty) > options COMPAT_IA32 # Compatible with i386 binaries > options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 > options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 > options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6 > options COMPAT_FREEBSD7 # Compatible with FreeBSD7 Here's our list: [dteske@oos0a /]$ config -x `sysctl -n kern.bootfile` | grep -i compat | grep -v '^#' options COMPAT_43TTY # BSD 4.3 TTY compat (sgtty) options COMPAT_FREEBSD32 # Compatible with i386 binaries options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6 options COMPAT_FREEBSD7 # Compatible with FreeBSD7 device pty # BSD-style compatibility pseudo ttys device ubsa # Belkin F5U103 and compatible serial adapters options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] Hmmm.... You're missing "COMPAT_43" ... that seems serious and likely to be the cause of your "Exec format" error (below). NOTE: I presume that the kernel config that you used does NOT include "GENERIC" as all the COMPAT_* options that are in our kernel (shown above) were actually there because we included the GENERIC config and then used `nodevice'/`nooptions' to disable things we didn't like in GENERIC and `device'/`options' to enable things that were missing from GENERIC. I think that's a much safer route to go if you're not an experienced kernel configurator. > Interestingly enough, the compat4 libraries themselves don't seem to be > recognized: > $ ldd /usr/local/lib32/compat/libfetch.so.2 > ldd: /usr/bin/ldd32: Exec format error Here it is on our system: [dteske@oos0a /]$ uname -a FreeBSD oos0a.vbsd.vicor.com 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Fri Aug 6 14:52:42 UTC 2010 dteske@oos0a.vbsd.vicor.com:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/FIS-amd64 amd64 [dteske@oos0a /]$ ldd /usr/local/lib32/compat/libfetch.so.2 /usr/local/lib32/compat/libfetch.so.2: Again, I think it's because your lack of "COMPAT_43" in your kernel. > > Compat5x libraries do not appear to be affected: > $ ldd /usr/local/lib/compat/libfetch.so.3 > /usr/local/lib/compat/libfetch.so.3: > libssl.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libssl.so.3 (0x800c00000) > libcrypto.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libcrypto.so.3 > (0x800d3a000) Same on our system. > Has anyone else ran into this issue? I realize trying to use things > built for FreeBSD 4 may be like beating a dead horse at this point, I'm > just surprised that the compatibility was broken during a minor release > upgrade. During the upgrade process, I think your kernel config lost something (COMPAT_43). > Thanks, > > Steve Polyack > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Cheers, Devin Teske -> CONTACT INFORMATION <- Business Solutions Consultant II FIS - fisglobal.com 510-735-5650 Mobile 510-621-2038 Office 510-621-2020 Office Fax 909-477-4578 Home/Fax devin.teske@fisglobal.com -> LEGAL DISCLAIMER <- This message contains confidential and proprietary information of the sender, and is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any use, distribution, copying or disclosure by any other person is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the e-mail sender immediately, and delete the original message without making a copy. -> FUN STUFF <- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version 3.1 GAT/CS d(+) s: a- C++(++++) UB++++$ P++(++++) L++(++++) !E--- W++ N? o? K- w O M+ V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP- t(+) 5? X+(++) R>++ tv(+) b+(++) DI+(++) D(+) G+>++ e>+ h r>++ y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.geekcode.com/ -> END TRANSMISSION <- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 20:33:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8188106567A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gautham@lisphacker.org) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203548FC26 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so1217877wyb.13 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:33:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.23.129 with SMTP id v1mr7467501wev.49.1285187582985; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.50.81 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:33:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100820165427.000072f8@unknown> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:33:02 +0100 Message-ID: From: Gautham Ganapathy To: bf1783@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Eduardo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:33:05 -0000 On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:10 PM, b. f. wrote: > > Okay. =A0Maybe we'll see a convergence of the two in the medium/long > term. =A0Right now, interested parties need to look at the available > hardware, and then talk to the vendors about whether they would be > willing to support a port of their software to FreeBSD, and > _specifically_, what is needed. =A0For example, we faced a similar > situation with the newer Nvidia GPUs not so long ago. =A0Some key > developers like John Baldwin got involved, and determined what changes > needed to be made in the FreeBSD base system in order to support the > newer hardware and graphics drivers. =A0It would have been nice to get > an open-source driver, but since Nvidia wasn't willing to do that, > FreeBSD =A0chose to meet them half-way. =A0Probably a similar effort will > be needed for CUDA. =A0Someone should look at the requirements, and have > a _detailed_, _sustained_ discussion with Nvidia and the FreeBSD > Foundation. =A0If, for example, KMS is needed, then the Foundation may > be willing to invest in that, because it will probably also be needed > for new graphics drivers and Xorg, anyway. =A0Robert Noland was working > on it, but he was doing it largely by himself in his spare time, and > then he got a new job and had to slow down considerably, if not stop > altogether. > ... Hi I remember seeing a post sometime back (either here or on nvnews) about someone getting a prebuilt linux-based CUDA application to work freebsd's linuxulator. Does this mean that the driver is ready, and just the toolchain has to be ported? Regards Gautham Ganapathy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 20:39:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA21C1065670 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:39:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from amavis-smtp.knology.net (amavis-smtp.knology.net [75.76.199.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34988FC21 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (amavis-smtp [127.0.0.1]) by amavis-smtp.knology.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA055886E5; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:38:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp12.knology.net ([75.76.199.9]) by localhost (amavis-smtp.knology.net [75.76.199.6]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ZZoDxgKYRCfX; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:38:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Grumpy.DynDNS.org (unknown [24.42.224.110]) by smtp12.knology.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666985200052; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:38:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 72C3328435; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:38:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:38:57 -0500 From: David Kelly To: D?nielisz L?szl? Message-ID: <20100922203857.GA92655@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrate system disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:39:31 -0000 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 08:06:13AM -0700, D?nielisz L?szl? wrote: > Hello, > > I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD > stands as my system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migrate > the FreeBSD 8.1 from the old disk to the new one? If you must copy exactly what you currently have then I'd use a variation on the handbook method which has already been suggested at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/backup-basics.html Rather than example 18-1 or 18-2 I'd pipe dump directly into restore. Do this once for every filesystem. Something like: ( cd /; /sbin/dump -0uanf - / ) | ( cd /newmount; /sbin/restore -rf - ) Where /newmount is the temporary new mount point for your new drive. Left preparation of new disk as an exercise for the reader. However there is a good argument to be made for making a totally new installation of FreeBSD. Then go through the original disk picking up the necessary files to customize for your use. As you find these files put their names in a file named something like files.list that in the future one could "tar -T files.list" (thats an incomplete example) to do a minimal quick backup or restore of only the files which are unique to your machine. This is an opportunity to find these files, and to practice using tar -T to lift them from one drive and write them to another. I wouldn't try to move the ports collection with the above technique. However it would be a good idea to save a list of installed ports that one could use to reinstall. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 21:13:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9AD1065674 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdb@ssr.com) Received: from mailhost.ssr.com (mailhost.ssr.com [199.4.235.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A15208FC1D for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1157 invoked by uid 103); 22 Sep 2010 21:11:36 -0000 Date: 22 Sep 2010 21:11:36 -0000 Message-ID: <20100922211136.1156.qmail@ssr.com> From: Scott Ballantyne To: bdsfbsd@att.net In-reply-to: (bdsfbsd@att.net) References: <20100922081117.1785.qmail@ssr.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:13:55 -0000 Hello Brian, > So if you return to the tty that you started X from (maybe by Alt-F1) and > hit Ctrl-C, that doesn't kill your X session? Reboot seems a bit drastic. That's correct. It kills the X session, but the terminal remains dark, and switches to 'lower power' mode. Using ctrl-alt-f1 or alt-f1 doesn't change the screen setting. > I struggled with widescreen config for a while until I realized the Tao > solution was best - have you tried starting X without any > /etc/X11/xorg.conf at all? Tao solution? I'm not sure what that is, but I have tried just typing 'startx' and also tried starting using xdm. Unfortunately everything has the same result, which is a blank screen in power savermode :( Thanks for your help. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 21:18:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562B6106566C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdb@ssr.com) Received: from mailhost.ssr.com (mailhost.ssr.com [199.4.235.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1AF4A8FC19 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1270 invoked by uid 103); 22 Sep 2010 21:16:33 -0000 Date: 22 Sep 2010 21:16:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20100922211633.1269.qmail@ssr.com> From: Scott Ballantyne To: Warren Block In-reply-to: (message from Warren Block on Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:14:11 -0600 (MDT)) References: <20100922081117.1785.qmail@ssr.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:18:52 -0000 Hi Warren, > Does the black screen show a mouse pointer? No escape including > ctrl-alt-f1? No mouse pointer, nothing. The X process will be shutdown with a ctrl-c or ctrl-alt-delete, but the screen remains blank, in "power saver" mode. Nothing I do makes any difference on the monitor. > > Try running X without an xorg.conf. > I've done that, and it works just the same. I saw your other message about HALD and read your interesting link, aei.html. I disabled the HALD and DBUS, and rebooted, tried again, but with the same results. Thanks so much, Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 21:32:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F6F106566C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2F08FC19 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwd6 with SMTP id 6so186344qwd.13 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:32:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+O8Ue6xwBS4a7+KXGnhp2qzAxMwwHSzi5uPyviXV3Sw=; b=GaVJ+5l5W6WCc5BMgV9JHKwgY6wXc3G+3KJk6z2kynaQYJuA3e+IZIrSengaz3nEcj vp2MKakxKqrXmc45pTqKXRD5dplFFC3FjinQMf3kHjhhCBmiV76RhGmUwp1HCTg+laHy 6wf2Y9R0u/PjaOVStGnXvNYnFSahVbLHAQGYc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KYstLUwKqqUsc7zVXnIb7aDr4kwk+9JtwaiN8NHEPcuDQ4eol5Z9VLhafZNP6Yot6W xmrgnFVcpa9z6y7wzT1NW2SyHVTlpFvwrYjOWKSdFdnv0COMfGb93XdBtTrpqGJJkvR5 SRGnl6WaougJScOHHupzwUXxrRwV5hMxQ6vU4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.71 with SMTP id l7mr628638qac.58.1285191133697; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.60.76 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:32:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000f01cb5a27$4823a0f0$d86ae2d0$@com.au> References: <000f01cb5a27$4823a0f0$d86ae2d0$@com.au> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:32:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: patrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: CYRUS IMAP cyradm core dump problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:32:16 -0000 This happens for me if the password is entered incorrectly. I see it happens right away for you, but what if you type: cyradm -u username 192.168.134.171 ? Patrick On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Tim Kerr wrote: > Hi guys, > > > > I have successfully used Cyrus IMAP in the past on versions 5.x, 6.x and = 7.x > > > > but am having a problem with a fresh installed ver 8.0 server =A0when run= ning > the cyradm command > > > > I upgraded to ver 8.1, performed a portupgrade and still get the same res= ult > as follows > > > > root# cyradm 192.168.134.171 > > Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) > > root# > > > > > > does anyone have any ideas as to what I should be looking at to fix this = ? > > > > regards, > > Tim Kerr > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 23:23:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFCA106564A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timbo@psst.com.au) Received: from hal.psst.com.au (ppp07C5.dsl.pacific.net.au [203.17.45.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAE18FC13 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hal.psst.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal.psst.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81341EFBCC for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:35:47 +1000 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at hal.psst.com.au Received: from hal.psst.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by hal.psst.com.au (hal.psst.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hqe6IlOAa9ri for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:35:34 +1000 (EST) Received: from hal.psst.com.au (hal.psst.com.au [192.168.241.71]) by hal.psst.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED7E1EE842 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:35:32 +1000 (EST) Received: from 120.146.199.17 (SquirrelMail authenticated user timbo) by hal.psst.com.au with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:35:33 +1000 Message-ID: <211f17580cb0ee7e5fac2831faf33e90.squirrel@hal.psst.com.au> In-Reply-To: References: <000f01cb5a27$4823a0f0$d86ae2d0$@com.au> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:35:33 +1000 From: "Tim Kerr" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20-RC2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: CYRUS IMAP cyradm core dump problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: timbo@psst.com.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:23:37 -0000 thanks everyone for all your help I applied the patch as suggested by Reko, but it seemed to make no difference removing libgssapiv2 libs however, solved my cyradm problem will this cause issues into the future for any other ports I may need ti install ? regards, Tim >> I upgraded to ver 8.1, performed a portupgrade and still get the >> same result >> as follows >> >> root# cyradm 192.168.134.171 > > The main question is - do you need kerberos/gssapi authentication on > your server or not? > > If not, the easy fix is removing libgssapiv2 libs from > /usr/local/lib/sasl2 > > For some reason, the gssapi implementation on FreeBSD 8+ is partial or > broken and one way for more information and possible fix for gsspai > see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/147454 > > -Reko > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 22 23:33:25 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06921106564A for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64AF8FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8MNXNDo073499; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:33:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o8MNXNL4073496; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:33:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:33:23 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Scott Ballantyne In-Reply-To: <20100922211633.1269.qmail@ssr.com> Message-ID: References: <20100922081117.1785.qmail@ssr.com> <20100922211633.1269.qmail@ssr.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:33:24 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:33:25 -0000 On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Scott Ballantyne wrote: >> Does the black screen show a mouse pointer? No escape including >> ctrl-alt-f1? > > No mouse pointer, nothing. The X process will be shutdown with a > ctrl-c or ctrl-alt-delete, but the screen remains blank, in "power > saver" mode. > > Nothing I do makes any difference on the monitor. It really sounds like a driver problem. radeon doesn't explicitly support the 5000-series cards, but I thought it would work. Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log. You can try the radeonhd driver, or even the vesa driver. > I've done that, and it works just the same. I saw your other message > about HALD and read your interesting link, aei.html. I disabled the > HALD and DBUS, and rebooted, tried again, but with the same results. Right. It's probably not an input problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 00:11:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4211065674 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:11:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nehe@telus.net) Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [204.209.205.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C498FC1A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edtnaa03.telusplanet.net ([198.53.161.92]) by priv-edtnes25.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20100922232436.ETFF29.priv-edtnes25.telusplanet.net@edtnaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:24:36 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (d198-53-161-92.abhsia.telus.net [198.53.161.92]) by edtnaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 703080F3E7C1F2CB for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:24:36 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4C9A9032.2010400@telus.net> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:24:34 -0600 From: Jeff Molofee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100921062150.3C1F410656A9@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20100921062150.3C1F410656A9@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=sGH6DY8SP8eLLB20ATTTjb2GQN0HlQgWxms3D+I/48U= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ERva2ojicQB/4En+FHnfWA==:17 a=QGu1lIkfVUj3FouxxaUA:9 a=oaPtUZHVclwWN0HHTpRqcVraYvYA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Subject: Samba3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:11:19 -0000 Need to get any variation of Samba 3 installed on a dedicated server. Using FreeBSD 6.X, get an error about buffer size being unknown and random errors on every version from 3.0 to 3.4. Anyone able to help me out? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 02:07:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942B0106566B for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from myself@rdtan.net) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5000B8FC1C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwd6 with SMTP id 6so343890qwd.13 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.127.18 with SMTP id e18mr506731vcs.143.1285205866823; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xhost.local ([115.135.197.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b9sm119108vci.39.2010.09.22.18.37.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C9AAF66.9050308@rdtan.net> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:37:42 +0800 From: Edward User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= References: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrate system disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:07:18 -0000 > I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD stands as my > system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migrate the FreeBSD 8.1 from > the old disk to the new one? I've used to do this a lot for server hardware migration, moving from 1 server to another new server. This blog post recorded what I tried & did : http://scratching.psybermonkey.net/2010/01/freebsd-backup-and-restore-freebsd.html Check it out, Edward. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 02:49:53 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365191065672 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112058FC15 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o8N2ltqs003957 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:47:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:47:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201009230247.o8N2ltqs003957@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:49:53 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 22 12:25:37 2010 > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:27:05 -0700 > From: David Brodbeck > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Robert Bonomi w= > rote: > > A) *THEY* developed the interface specifications. They license printer > > manufacurers to build to it. =A0 They _would_ obejct if somebody used > > their technology to compete against them. > > > > B) As it is, to _use_ one of those printers, you *HAVE*TO*BY* a MS O/S. > > =A0 if one could use those printers -without- a MS O/S, that is a > > =A0 'provable' loss in MS O/S sales -- one sales loss for -each- non-MS > > =A0 system that has such a printer attached. > > If this were true, and there really were a big conspiracy on > Microsoft's part to make manufacturers only support Windows, then you > wouldn't see cheap printers that support both Windows and MacOS X. In > reality, such printers are pretty easy to find. NICE STRAWMAN. But that was -not- the point of the discussion that I was addressing. The QUESTION ASKED was 'why would Microsoft object if somebody else implemented -their- printer-driver technology. And the answer to -that- question -is- found in 'simple economics' -- if somebody did so, it would represent a 'potential loss' in MS operating system sales. The potential threat of MS taking issue (and possible legal action) against someone who develops a usable 'windows clone' printing subsystem, is not 'in iteself' a 'deal breaker' that preents it from happening. It is mrerely "more nails" in the lid of the coffin. Eliminate the other barriers and you still have that one to worry about. eliminate -only- it, and the coffin lid is -still- nailed down. MS knows better than to try to dictate what markets printer manufacturers can build for. if a manufacturer wants to develop for a _competing_ market using _competing_ technology, "no problem". If a manufacturer wanted to develop for a competing (with oter microsoft produts -- i.e. were every sale of the 'competing' product is a potential 'lost sale' of a MS product) market, *using*MICROSOFT's*tecnology, the "big problem". NOTE WELL I did -not- claim there is any 'conspiracy' on MS's part to force printer manuracturers into only supporting window. There isn't. Printer manufacturers _chose_ to roll out devices that work only when coupled with host-based software that they provie for Windows, and Windows *ONLY*. They have, probably rightly, concluded that the -cost- of providing drivers for other environments (or even the cost of making the specifications avaialable) is more than the profits that that (relatively speaking) small number of additional sales would bring in. They build for their 'primary market', and if cost-minimization for -that- market means that the device is 'unusable' in a niche market that would bring in minimal revenues, they =don't=care=. Regardless of how 'inconvenient' it is for the users _in_ that niche 'market. There's also another thing going on with regard to the low-end inkjet printers. What does it tell you when you can buy a _new_ printer, _with_ a set of ink cartridge for roughly 50% more than the cost of a set of replacement cartriges? Hint, it's the same strategy that King Gilette used to sell safety razors. The 'total cost of ownership' of an inkjet printer is _obscene_ when figured on a per-page basis, with highly intermittant use. Used 'reglarly but lightly' the cost of ownership is merely riciculously high. But the customers _don't_ tink about te purchases that way. If the purchase price is rock bottom, "who cares" about the 'operating cost' applies. unless they're using it regularly enough that they see ink as an expence at least monthly. "Guess why" printer manufactures now put 'smart chips' _in_ the cartridge so that when the page count has been reached, it _stops_working even if there are 'consumables' still in the package. Aw, shucks, you can't _re-fill_ that cartridge with cheap ink. "Guess who" is crying all theway to the banke over -that- little problem. Summary: the obstacles to developing a 'shim'/'wrapper' around a Windows printer driver to allow te use of cheap 'Winprinters' in a Unix environment. 1) the 'appication side' interface it would is incompatbile with *every* existing Unix application that produces print output. 2) providing a lowlevel /'translator' to map between the output calls that existant print-producing packages usa and the windows environment 'expects' is an enitre _additional_ undertaking that would have to be done. 3) (2) _cannot_ be done 'perfectly' there are concepts on the Unix side for which there are -no- windows equivalents. And vice-versa. 4) WINDOWS applications are the only things that directly produce output 'compatible' with this new printing system. (a) absent the translator discueesed in (2), the a unix app has to be re-wrritten to take advantage of the 'new' printer. (b) a 'windows' app already knows how to talk to this kind of printer but tht's no -help since te _rest_ of the app still needs a windows interface. 5) you'r tryin to catch a moving target -- witout a *LOT* of co-ordinated, directed and team-oriented expertise, the target will change faster than the solution beiing built. it doesn't do -anybody- any good to prouce a technical tour-de-force, if by the time it's completed nobody is selling printers compatible with that 'obselete' tecnology. 6) hang a "Winprinter" off a unix box _wih_ a shim wrapper, and yo've got a 'solution looking for a problem, because _nothing_ on the applications side can talk to it, see 2),3) and 4) above. 7) you -do- run a risk of legal action from Microsoft. unless you pay to license the interface technology. There are software patents and 'trade secrets' (divulged only non-disclosure agreements) involved. Colllectively, the above reasons constitute an overwelming rational for -not- tackling such a project -- those with the required skill-sets are well aware how large -each- of those mountains is, and have chosen -not- to expend the effort. If there is someone out there who believes it _can_ be done, with a rational expenditure of time and effort, They are strongly encouraged to GO DO IT. Those who merely want to "bitch and moan" about ow 'other people' aren't 'moving fast enough' on their pet issue of the day might want to think about what *they* could do to 'make it happen'. For starters, it is a simple fact that any sizable project gets done _far_faster_ with 'funding' than it does *without* it. Want it done 'sooner'? Start a fund-raising project among like-minded users. Six figures (left of the decimal point, _not_ counting leading zeroes:) would be a good starting point. Manage *that* and you'll be the "E.F. Hutton" (c.f. the 80', 90's add campaign) of the unix world. otherwise..... Those who "don't know what they don't know" about the subject, because tey do _NOT_ have the skills to tackle it themselves, are cordially requested to STFU, and go _learn_ what they need to know to tackle it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 03:43:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1B5106564A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 03:43:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbiquez@intranet.com.mx) Received: from intranet.com.mx (intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBAC88FC0C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 03:43:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PC2.intranet.com.mx (189.191.44.87) by intranet.com.mx with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9) for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:29:57 -0500 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:29:38 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jorge Biquez Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> Subject: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 03:43:55 -0000 Hello all. In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved that way I have never tried any graphical interface. I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what path to follow? KDE? any other? I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if possible that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use it as my desktop plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc) Thanks in advance Jorge Biquez From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 03:57:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970B2106564A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 03:57:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EBA8FC17 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 03:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8N3vlsI074517; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:57:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o8N3vlhj074514; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:57:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:57:46 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Jorge Biquez In-Reply-To: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> Message-ID: References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:57:47 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 03:57:48 -0000 On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Jorge Biquez wrote: > I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what > path to follow? KDE? any other? The Handbook covers setting up the three major desktop environments in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html. You don't have to choose one of those, there are lots of varied window managers, and advocates for each. There's an overview here on fd.o: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Desktops. Many of those are in ports. > I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if possible > that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use it as my desktop > plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc) Personally, I currently use xfce as "lighter" than the other members of the big three, while still offering the features I want. But it really is very subjective. For various purposes, I've used GNOME, KDE, icewm, fluxbox, blackbox, and others. Ports make these all pretty easy to install. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 04:53:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B981810656AD for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 04:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCC08FC17 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 04:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so1078936fxm.13 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:53:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=bkXSIVdReJ2ciKk6DT554ZQi5lyNcRY4ry1MunxJJv8=; b=LSGQt5GPaXTlt6oMOgJMNnZ4GzILKmbBEQUzYu4I5MYRGfP9dXXcsg9ciwS3bAMEUP fniulJ6pNcZVcI7pth3dRC38Zw+peKBRHb3qgX1VgGbA/AdQdrtjNBV1n9qiO7PZaajY tJ6BXi+ExSKRWX4PFP51KTfnuPeBXnPuCUrYs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=TmWjW4nOPDd10AGF88aBN0ZzfvF2iZsmzglnTDJ/cLVt+7o8EVfHdwaiMXhVDcC4vx 5Hqpu+1xRrYs0AM1flU/melWerJ9HdU2Q12HepvbQ4MGg/HBeiXEo1Oi1vZttemO+wxX w665kZsoTOYnhXeAt4c/k4up4jA5+Qn4+pz34= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.144.85 with SMTP id y21mr262019fau.87.1285217621182; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.104.201 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:53:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:53:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Jorge Biquez Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 04:53:42 -0000 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Hello all. > > In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell > mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved that way I have never > tried any graphical interface. > > I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what > path to follow? KDE? any other? > > I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if possible > that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use it as my desktop > plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc) > As stated before, it's really a personal matter. I like kde4 a lot, especially konsole and konqueror. konsole seems to have a great blend of features(monitor for activity, etc.) and integration with other KDE apps as a snap-in. Basically things like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCL_6YNgc8w make it a breeze to keep separate groups for each item your working on. Konqueror runs firefox plugins, and supports the fish protocol which I occasionally find useful. It's also lighter and faster than KDE3. It's pretty stable too, but not completely so. Once in awhile a KDE4 will get hung like krdc and I'll have to restart rather than track down the issue. I guess I reboot my desktop on average once a month due to things like that so it's acceptable for me. You can use the handbook method of installing KDE4(which is much, much faster) or my method of installing: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-ports@freebsd.org/msg25856.html Looking at my old post again, I notice I didn't include kde4 in the build. That would be this: portmaster --no-confirm -d /usr/ports/x11/kde4 #you make wish to add --no-confirm to the other portmaster commands as it's behaviour has changed. So it's not too hard to get it on your system. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 06:09:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8EE106566B for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 06:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from hrimail.hri.res.in (hrimail.hri.res.in [210.212.50.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151538FC1F for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 06:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipc2.mri.ernet.in (unknown [192.168.3.2]) by hrimail.hri.res.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8593597E9B for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:47:07 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (riemann.mri.ernet.in [192.168.3.122]) by ipc2.mri.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548A076250 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:26:09 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o8N5lrGo090103 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:17:53 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu@riemann.mri.ernet.in) Received: (from raghu@localhost) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o8N5lmnK090102; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:17:48 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu) From: "N. Raghavendra" To: FreeBSD Question X-Organization: Harish-Chandra Research Institute (HRI) X-Address: Chhatnag Road, Jhusi, Allahabad 211 019, India X-URL: http://www.mri.ernet.in/ and http://www.retrotexts.net/ X-Phone: +91 (532) 2667 509, 2667 318, 2667 578, 2567 746, 2567 747 X-Fax: +91 (532) 2667 576, 2567 748, 2567 444, 2568 036 X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x03618806 X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: C75D D0AF 457E 7454 BEC2 37AD C6E1 0407 0361 8806 X-OpenPGP-Public-Key-Available-At: http://www.keyserver.net/ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:17:48 +0530 Message-ID: <86hbhhnh8b.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: DHCP problem after upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "N. Raghavendra" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 06:09:13 -0000 I upgraded my system from 7.2-STABLE to 8.1-STABLE, and have done `mergemaster'. Earlier the system used to get its IP address by DHCP at boot time without any problem. After the upgrade, it is not doing so. I have ifconfig_em0="DHCP" in /etc/rc.conf. After booting, manually doing `/sbin/dhclient em0' works. The dmesg is enclosed below. Any help is appreciated. Thanks and regards, Raghavendra. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright (c) 1992-2010 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0: Thu Sep 23 09:18:44 IST 2010 root@griffin.campus.hri:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GRIFFIN i386 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (2394.01-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6fb Family = 6 Model = f Stepping = 11 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0xe3bd AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 3221225472 (3072 MB) avail memory = 3140222976 (2994 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s) cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 4 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, bfd90000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 device_attach: acpi_hpet0 attach returned 12 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 vgapci0: port 0xcf00-0xcf7f mem 0xfa000000-0xfaffffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xf8000000-0xf9ffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 em0: port 0xff00-0xff1f mem 0xfdfc0000-0xfdfdffff,0xfdfff000-0xfdffffff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0 em0: Using MSI interrupt em0: [FILTER] em0: Ethernet address: 00:1d:09:99:b5:ee uhci0: port 0xfe00-0xfe1f irq 16 at device 26.0 on pci0 uhci0: [ITHREAD] uhci0: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus0: on uhci0 uhci1: port 0xfd00-0xfd1f irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0 uhci1: [ITHREAD] uhci1: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus1: on uhci1 uhci2: port 0xfc00-0xfc1f irq 19 at device 26.2 on pci0 uhci2: [ITHREAD] uhci2: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus2: on uhci2 ehci0: mem 0xfdffe000-0xfdffe3ff irq 18 at device 26.7 on pci0 ehci0: [ITHREAD] usbus3: EHCI version 1.0 usbus3: on ehci0 hdac0: mem 0xfdff4000-0xfdff7fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0 hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20100226_0142 hdac0: [ITHREAD] uhci3: port 0xfb00-0xfb1f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci3: [ITHREAD] usbus4: on uhci3 uhci4: port 0xfa00-0xfa1f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci4: [ITHREAD] usbus5: on uhci4 uhci5: port 0xf900-0xf91f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci5: [ITHREAD] usbus6: on uhci5 ehci1: mem 0xfdffd000-0xfdffd3ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci1: [ITHREAD] usbus7: EHCI version 1.0 usbus7: on ehci1 pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf800-0xf807,0xf700-0xf703,0xf600-0xf607,0xf500-0xf503,0xf400-0xf40f,0xf300-0xf30f irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci0: [ITHREAD] ata2: on atapci0 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci0 ata3: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) atapci1: port 0xf100-0xf107,0xf000-0xf003,0xef00-0xef07,0xee00-0xee03,0xed00-0xed0f,0xec00-0xec0f irq 19 at device 31.5 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci1 ata4: [ITHREAD] ata5: on atapci1 ata5: [ITHREAD] acpi_tz0: on acpi0 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x73 on acpi0 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FILTER] pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1 at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0 ata1: [ITHREAD] atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] ppc0: parallel port not found. est0: on cpu0 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 927092706000927 device_attach: est0 attach returned 6 p4tcc0: on cpu0 est1: on cpu1 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 927092706000927 device_attach: est1 attach returned 6 p4tcc1: on cpu1 est2: on cpu2 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 927092706000927 device_attach: est2 attach returned 6 p4tcc2: on cpu2 est3: on cpu3 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 927092706000927 device_attach: est3 attach returned 6 p4tcc3: on cpu3 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus3: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 usbus4: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus5: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus6: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus7: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 ugen0.1: at usbus0 uhub0: on usbus0 ugen1.1: at usbus1 uhub1: on usbus1 ugen2.1: at usbus2 uhub2: on usbus2 ugen3.1: at usbus3 uhub3: on usbus3 ugen4.1: at usbus4 uhub4: on usbus4 ugen5.1: at usbus5 uhub5: on usbus5 ugen6.1: at usbus6 uhub6: on usbus6 ugen7.1: at usbus7 uhub7: on usbus7 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub6: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ad4: 305245MB at ata2-master UDMA100 SATA 3Gb/s GEOM: ad4: partition 3 does not start on a track boundary. GEOM: ad4: partition 3 does not end on a track boundary. GEOM: ad4: partition 2 does not start on a track boundary. GEOM: ad4: partition 2 does not end on a track boundary. GEOM: ad4s3: geometry does not match label (255h,63s != 16h,63s). uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered uhub7: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered ugen3.2: at usbus3 umass0: on usbus3 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 ugen7.2: at usbus7 umass1: on usbus7 umass1: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 umass0:1:0:-1: Attached to scbus1 umass1:2:1:-1: Attached to scbus2 acd0: DVDR at ata3-master UDMA100 SATA 1.5Gb/s hdac0: HDA Codec #2: Realtek ALC888 pcm0: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm1: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00 (probe2:ata3:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe2:ata3:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe2:ata3:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe2:ata3:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,1 (Medium not present - tray closed) (probe1:umass-sim1:1:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe1:umass-sim1:1:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe1:umass-sim1:1:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe1:umass-sim1:1:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:1): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 20 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:1): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:1): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:1): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:2): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 40 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:2): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:2): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:2): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:3): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 60 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:3): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:3): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim1:1:0:3): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 476940MB (976773167 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 60801C) cd0 at ata3 bus 0 scbus3 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 100.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed da1 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 da1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers da1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! da2 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus2 target 0 lun 1 da2: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da2: 40.000MB/s transfers da2: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present da3 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus2 target 0 lun 2 da3: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da3: 40.000MB/s transfers da3: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present da4 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus2 target 0 lun 3 da4: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da4: 40.000MB/s transfers da4: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present ugen2.2: at usbus2 uhub8: on usbus2 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s3a uhub8: 3 ports with 2 removable, bus powered ugen2.3: at usbus2 ukbd0: on usbus2 kbd2 at ukbd0 uhid0: on usbus2 ugen2.4: at usbus2 ums0: on usbus2 ums0: 3 buttons and [XYZ] coordinates ID=0 em0: link state changed to UP From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 06:19:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93E6106566C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 06:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771F18FC13 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 06:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oyf9G-0007Yu-9F; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:19:14 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8N6JH11002104; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:19:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8N6JGhq002103; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:19:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:19:16 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Edward Message-ID: <20100923061916.GA1945@current.Sisis.de> References: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C9AAF66.9050308@rdtan.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4C9AAF66.9050308@rdtan.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrate system disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 06:19:19 -0000 El día Thursday, September 23, 2010 a las 09:37:42AM +0800, Edward escribió: > > > I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD stands as my > > system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migrate the FreeBSD 8.1 from > > the old disk to the new one? > > I've used to do this a lot for server hardware migration, moving from 1 > server to another new server. This blog post recorded what I tried & did : > http://scratching.psybermonkey.net/2010/01/freebsd-backup-and-restore-freebsd.html I did an similar aproach, moving a complete system by dump/restore to another (virtual) hardware to get a 1:1 clone of my laptop. The steps are documented in detail here: http://www.unixarea.de/OS/moveFreeBSDintoVM.txt HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 07:06:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C911065679 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 091A68FC13 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:06:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26356 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Sep 2010 07:06:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1285225616; bh=x7B13H9r57wkgofpjZfvu17kUc/PnQBUwi7ezi8K5+A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5At/RDfGQlDOW7EZK4kcnMtpzD1ctEKp7IA84Wc2MvLUKWa+VOgIKFxU8yyluthtQZS46Pj/ZEICIkkEIHJWuyS9Y8WZxHSOg5SFewrce5pRnHWtzvIChiSoAu4ffZNWdyODOqD6p7F/FtKNrbkAJtyDfkjZ37lMuTtOaVvhRuU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Pn76dk2OC6Mm41rs0hCfIW896QK9VukftqaLKgTrpoQutm1YtmnYKeMWnqnrUTMzXq/1gxeZf6tTY3RZVoDOFGpsrrzLT1fCF90qoQz1aK66guSn53px9qbzIjT4rfyWU83Qud22qGxKyY4P2CcrLSmhEO0RzQHU7f2NGGh15nk=; Message-ID: <138608.24698.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: rth9jEUVM1lJsbSdTVfWlE6TZ21ANzxVTc701LMjQY7idcK eJ5t2svDgBAWa4SeRzJ63T3RC.F_Ywz3n7ADKFPOYz..2FO7ajnYZutQOq7L Pok3IH8tnqRiW.EnThV_3q0vul6fRKpbN9.4ndQo2tPeM1k2OtcJSLSctPmY 85HtOhtN35uKRhzZM9j0jR75acms1qzNZ1f190EsWj04KOWGCK1aNTpCaGPv 1stxxjXrahbYJE4jhM9y9jGRK.bzOUD9HfpAf_eLZ18dGL36eJBPxmdgCPtQ cORIbbyTvQhjF_iDRwrXdnwZPQWblzBFBN4DE2N4FaIHhkO2lQQIPZg-- Received: from [78.131.78.21] by web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:06:55 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/497 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 References: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4C9AAF66.9050308@rdtan.net> <20100923061916.GA1945@current.Sisis.de> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:06:55 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100923061916.GA1945@current.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: migrate system disk <- thank you X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:06:57 -0000 Thank you everybody for your help!=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A__________________________= ______=0AFrom: Matthias Apitz =0ATo: Edward =0ACc: D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 ; freebsd-qu= estions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Thu, September 23, 2010 8:19:16 AM=0ASubject: R= e: migrate system disk=0A=0AEl d=EDa Thursday, September 23, 2010 a las 09:= 37:42AM +0800, Edward escribi=F3:=0A=0A> =0A> > I have an old HDD which sho= uld be replaced soon, actually that HDD stands as =0A>my =0A>=0A> > system = disk, what is your suggesion, how should I migrate the FreeBSD 8.1 =0A>from= =0A>=0A> > the old disk to the new one?=0A> =0A> I've used to do this a lo= t for server hardware migration, moving from 1=0A> server to another new se= rver. This blog post recorded what I tried & did :=0A>http://scratching.psy= bermonkey.net/2010/01/freebsd-backup-and-restore-freebsd.html=0A>l=0A=0AI d= id an similar aproach, moving a complete system by dump/restore to=0Aanothe= r (virtual) hardware to get a 1:1 clone of my laptop. The steps=0Aare docum= ented in detail here:=0A=0Ahttp://www.unixarea.de/OS/moveFreeBSDintoVM.txt= =0A=0AHIH=0A=0A matthias=0A=0A-- =0AMatthias Apitz=0At +49-89-61308 351 = - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211=0Ae - w http://= www.unixarea.de/=0ASolidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not i= n my name!=0A=BFSolidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? =A1No en = mi nombre!=0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd-ques= tions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/= freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-uns= ubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 07:17:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1F21065672 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:17:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from hrimail.hri.res.in (hrimail.hri.res.in [210.212.50.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA228FC08 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipc2.mri.ernet.in (unknown [192.168.3.2]) by hrimail.hri.res.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BA897ECA for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:08:23 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (riemann.mri.ernet.in [192.168.3.122]) by ipc2.mri.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4903076250 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:47:25 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o8N799H8090450 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:39:09 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu@riemann.mri.ernet.in) Received: (from raghu@localhost) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id o8N7915r090449; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:39:01 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu) From: "N. Raghavendra" To: FreeBSD Question In-Reply-To: <86hbhhnh8b.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> (N. Raghavendra's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:17:48 +0530") References: <86hbhhnh8b.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> X-Organization: Harish-Chandra Research Institute (HRI) X-Address: Chhatnag Road, Jhusi, Allahabad 211 019, India X-URL: http://www.mri.ernet.in/ and http://www.retrotexts.net/ X-Phone: +91 (532) 2667 509, 2667 318, 2667 578, 2567 746, 2567 747 X-Fax: +91 (532) 2667 576, 2567 748, 2567 444, 2568 036 X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x03618806 X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: C75D D0AF 457E 7454 BEC2 37AD C6E1 0407 0361 8806 X-OpenPGP-Public-Key-Available-At: http://www.keyserver.net/ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:39:01 +0530 Message-ID: <86hbhh2aya.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: DHCP problem after upgrade [solved] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "N. Raghavendra" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:17:55 -0000 At 2010-09-23T11:17:48+05:30, N. Raghavendra wrote: > I upgraded my system from 7.2-STABLE to 8.1-STABLE, and have done > `mergemaster'. Earlier the system used to get its IP address by > DHCP at boot time without any problem. After the upgrade, it is not > doing so. I have ifconfig_em0="DHCP" in /etc/rc.conf. After searching the Web and rc.conf(5), I came across the "SYNCDHCP" value for the ifconfig_ variable. So, either setting ifconfig_em0="SYNCDHCP", or leaving ifconfig_em0="DHCP" as it is and setting synchronous_dhclient="YES" in rc.conf works, and the system gets an IP address from the DHCP server at boot time. Regards, Raghavendra. -- N. Raghavendra | http://www.retrotexts.net/ Harish-Chandra Research Institute | http://www.mri.ernet.in/ See message headers for contact and OpenPGP information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 08:00:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBDD1065672 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:00:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out7.libero.it (cp-out7.libero.it [212.52.84.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D674C8FC24 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.54.64) by cp-out7.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4C9778C3005F83AA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:00:22 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8N7c3J9012272 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:38:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4C9B03DB.6000806@netfence.it> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:38:03 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100917 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.1.2.13 Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:00:24 -0000 On 09/23/10 06:53, Adam Vande More wrote: > As stated before, it's really a personal matter. I like kde4 a lot, > ... > It's also > lighter and faster than KDE3. It's pretty stable too, but not completely > so. Strange. After years of KDE3 I tried KDE4 and switched back in half a day. I found it crawling slowly, with continuous crashes, rendering bugs and missing features... Of course, YMMV. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 08:09:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10ECD106566C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:09:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04558FC08 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oygri-00026P-2m for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:09:15 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8N89HY5003203 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:09:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8N89HoO003202 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:09:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:09:17 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100923080917.GA3186@current.Sisis.de> References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <4C9B03DB.6000806@netfence.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4C9B03DB.6000806@netfence.it> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:09:18 -0000 El día Thursday, September 23, 2010 a las 09:38:03AM +0200, Andrea Venturoli escribió: > On 09/23/10 06:53, Adam Vande More wrote: > > > As stated before, it's really a personal matter. I like kde4 a lot, > > ... > > It's also > > lighter and faster than KDE3. It's pretty stable too, but not completely > > so. > > Strange. > After years of KDE3 I tried KDE4 and switched back in half a day. > I found it crawling slowly, with continuous crashes, rendering bugs and > missing features... I'm using KDE 3.5.10 which very solid and stable. In May 2009 I tried KDE4, in a test machine and found it unstable and not so intiutive as KDE3. So I droped the idea to move to KDE4. Just my 0.02 pesos cubanos matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 08:36:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812831065679 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBAD8FC1F for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8N8a5VU009189; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:36:10 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8N8a4SB009149; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:36:05 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8336A33C3D; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:36:03 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:36:03 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Jorge Biquez Message-ID: <20100923083603.GA12869@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by asmtp1.iomartmail.com id o8N8a4SB009149 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:36:13 -0000 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:29:38PM -0500, Jorge Biquez wrote: > > Hello all. >=20 > In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under=20 > terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved=20 > that way I have never tried any graphical interface. >=20 > I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience=20 > on what path to follow? KDE? any other? >=20 > I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if=20 > possible that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use=20 > it as my desktop plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc) >=20 > Thanks in advance >=20 > Jorge Biquez >=20 I remember years ago that I first started using Linux in just the console and did so for about 6 months before I set up X. It was such a pleasure to get away from a GUI and to a CLI :) When I did set up X, I used fvwm as my WM for many years, then Blackbox and now Fluxbox. I like the *boxes and fvwm as they have simple text based configuration files and are easy to customise to one's own needs. I still just have a couple of xterms running under fluxbox and tend to launch a lot of programs from them. You might find a simple setup, as I've described above, comfortable for your needs rather than a full-blown desktop environment such as Gnome or KDE. My belief is that people who are comfortable with Gnome/KDE are people who are familiar with working in a GUI such as Windows=AE and haven't come from the commandline. Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 08:46:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663BD106564A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8F98FC17 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:46:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyhS2-0007eD-O1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:46:46 +0200 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8N8kkLJ003704 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:46:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8N8kkQD003703 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:46:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:46:46 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100923084646.GA3644@current.Sisis.de> References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923083603.GA12869@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20100923083603.GA12869@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:46:48 -0000 El día Thursday, September 23, 2010 a las 09:36:03AM +0100, Frank Shute escribió: > My belief is that people who are comfortable with Gnome/KDE are people > who are familiar with working in a GUI such as Windows® and haven't > come from the commandline. Totally wrong for me. I come from a UNIX like System which was driven in batch jos in /370 main frame by 80 column puch cards and later UNIX7 in just ASCII cmd terminals. See: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.wizards/msg/98fc9de7c77bff59 Ofc, today I do most of my work in XTerm, like using now mutt (as you do) and vim to write this mail. matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 09:33:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA63106564A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:33:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B268FC1B for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:33:13 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AikFAKS0mkxUXeb6/2dsb2JhbACUOY12ccMxhUEE Received: from outmx05.plus.net ([84.93.230.250]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 23 Sep 2010 10:04:23 +0100 Received: from helix.plus.com ([84.92.153.232] helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by outmx05.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Oyhj5-0007tb-1G for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:04:23 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oyhj3-0000gK-Ly for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:04:21 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:04:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <4C9B03DB.6000806@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <4C9B03DB.6000806@netfence.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201009231004.21559.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:33:14 -0000 On Thursday 23 September 2010, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > After years of KDE3 I tried KDE4 and switched back in half a day. > I found it crawling slowly, with continuous crashes, rendering bugs > and missing features... > > Of course, YMMV. That's very similar to my experience too but I'm getting the feeling that I might have to move over to KDE4 before much longer due to reduced KDE3 support with some of the apps: 1) There's a problem with gnupg > 2.0.9 and Kgpg with KDE 3.5 which prevents kgpg parsing the keyring . Apparently the code is totally different from what is in KDE4 and is scattered over several places so fixing this for KDE3 will (understandably) not be done. I've stuck with gnupg-2.0.9_3 which is still working OK but the recent removal of libassuan-1 causes a problem if I ever need to rebuild gnupg-2.0.9_3 2) kaffeine-1.0_1 now depends on some KDE4 libraries, I suspect other apps will follow in due course with the result that I'll start to see more bloat and potential conflicts. When I first tried KDE4 it was much slower than KDE3, have things improved sufficiently since then for me to think about upgrading? -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 10:15:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4931065672 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdmail@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A18E8FC17 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Sep 2010 09:49:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO kerberos.hades) [188.107.42.66] by mail.gmx.net (mp035) with SMTP; 23 Sep 2010 11:49:13 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14495869 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/QfuReDPrQIkhN8Ms1D2lgGbcFPPhllfxVeiUSvU CeiyuikdCZcpRn Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:49:15 +0200 From: Philipp Lengemann To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= Message-ID: <20100923114915.6de48bbc@kerberos.hades> In-Reply-To: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <447149.36059.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: migrate system disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:15:56 -0000 Am Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:06:13 -0700 (PDT) schrieb D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 : > Hello, >=20 > I have an old HDD which should be replaced soon, actually that HDD > stands as my system disk, what is your suggesion, how should I > migrate the FreeBSD 8.1 from the old disk to the new one? >=20 > thank you! > Laszlo Have a look at recoverdisk(1). This should satisfy most your needs. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 10:58:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A846106564A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from mail.nagual.nl (524948AF.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl [82.73.72.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D58C8FC0C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.11.34] (192.168.11.34) by westmark.nagual.nl (Axigen) with (AES256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 0C6175; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:37:01 +0200 Message-ID: <4C9B2F2C.8050202@nagual.nl> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:42:52 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nl; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C9A5339.80200@nagual.nl> <4C9A5A70.2020201@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C9A5A70.2020201@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-AxigenVirus-Level: 1 Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:58:00 -0000 On 22-9-2010 21:35, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 22/09/2010 20:04:25, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: >> You're certainly not the only one liking CUPS. I long hesitated to use >> it, but once I'd decided to do so, I wouldn't go back to lpr. No way. >> It's very easy to set up and does a great job. CUPS is OK but most >> FreeBSD people don't seem to think so. I don't get it. > CUPS is really nice *when it works*. If you're lucky and have managed > to buy the right sort of printer hardware, and the Gods are smiling upon > you, then CUPS will serve you well. The list of supported hardware is very very long, so this part shouldn't be so hard. > On the other hand, when CUPS is bad, it is truly awful. Excessively > hard to debug; impossible to fix without Guru-level powers. One of > those "No user serviceable parts inside" sort of things. This might be true. I guess this is a valid reason not to use it if you want to be able to debug things yourself _AND_ if you are a code guru. > CUPS works brilliantly when I plug my printer's USB cable directly into > my Mac. But I've never yet managed to print to exactly the same printer > via CUPS when it is plugged into my FreeBSD server. Hmm, strange. CUPS works very well when I use a linux server, but it also works very well on my main server, now running OpenSolaris-b134. I would not want to be offensive, but could it be something inside the FreeBSD code that makes it harder to function w/ CUPS? It really is a pity, because it really is very easy to set printers up _AND_ share them over you LAN at the same time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 11:19:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701DF106576F for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D1C8FC1A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyjZB-0005Xp-M2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:02:17 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1OyjZB-00074L-Jk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:02:17 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8NB2H29001959 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:02:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o8NB2HVY001958 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:02:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:02:17 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100923110216.GA1861@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: rebuilding world - is "chflags -R noschg *" necessary? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:19:07 -0000 The fbsd manual states in section 24.7 Rebuilding "world": http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html in subsection 24.7.6 Remove /usr/obj *quote* Some files below /usr/obj may have the immutable flag set (see chflags(1) for more information) which must be removed first. # cd /usr/obj # chflags -R noschg * *end quote* I've never seen a file under /usr/obj/ with immutable flag set. Why would there be object files with immutable flag set? Is this step really necessary? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 11:33:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68401065672 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CA88FC1A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:33:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9D0736 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:33:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.212]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:33:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:references:subject:in-reply-to:date; s=smtpout; bh=Fjv8d3k5Ep5wyPbSqker/CWdrM4=; b=NjMXuVEnVH5APHVMvt5uIiUQSvbIVrgutoYdS5/5xkozxG6brHfmXFZYZ3hSzdlrBjURLKOVp4ISg+nQu4zf+tk7ISHIZV1rMIHHe3zSkzKr1rx2I7APHIFT6EJa1MwSOR4KbS4lV6OHUgAc91kveW+UcF5ovrTA/kiQ+ALRDLM= Received: by web2.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id DC008B1BF48; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1285241631.23503.1396491155@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: pe/Coo+TQgMlMDo6QAFndwaKV0WLphi1HuhIs45VQFHj 1285241631 From: "Jud" To: "freebsd-questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:33:51 -0400 Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:33:52 -0000 On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:57 -0600, "Warren Block" wrote: > On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Jorge Biquez wrote: > > > I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what > > path to follow? KDE? any other? > > The Handbook covers setting up the three major desktop environments in > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html. > > You don't have to choose one of those, there are lots of varied window > managers, and advocates for each. There's an overview here on fd.o: > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Desktops. Many of those are in ports. > > > I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if possible > > that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use it as my desktop > > plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc) > > Personally, I currently use xfce as "lighter" than the other members of > the big three, while still offering the features I want. But it really > is very subjective. For various purposes, I've used GNOME, KDE, icewm, > fluxbox, blackbox, and others. Ports make these all pretty easy to > install. +1 for xfce as not requiring quite so much stuff to be installed as GNOME and KDE, but still having what I need. I also like the xfce Terminal. (Have used GNOME, seems fine to me; haven't tried KDE.) If you want to go really lightweight, fluxbox and blackbox, which I've used and liked, have already been mentioned. I haven't had any problem running GNOME on not-the-latest hardware (Athlon XP CPU, Nvidia 7600 AGP GPU), so if yours is equivalent or newer, I don't know that performance will be a concern for any of the desktops. At that point it's just what feels most natural - what makes your most frequently-used apps and utilities quickly available to you, what interface seems easiest to work with, etc. Jud -- "I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." - Douglas Adams From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 12:05:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311E01065673 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [62.220.235.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D261E8FC0C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD341CC5D; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:05:23 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net 9DD341CC5D DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1285243523; bh=LozfCr5TaqNTWloj01bq4PpyCxhnxZjcQ95pMEC5x50=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PvUqlhmSqw2nv3wtayC/07MZRtRY74OfzcnKy4/hRYtwLPs9PczLFgGrezpo5P5qv 4M0ban4lgkXfZlvz9w9xnFiXW2RHOrOzTQ7iN5KrCNpl+KvMn2p/ZSRLytmH7oLhVt te/2eAlfvBIx4ZjSI+V/B3YJLFPyvAAgQn7ulvcY= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from www.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by www.liukuma.net (www.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id IpZ7AOdhPTYa; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:05:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from rivendell (a91-155-174-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.174.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@www.liukuma.net) by www.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BB68A1CC5B; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:05:17 +0300 (EEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 www.liukuma.net BB68A1CC5B Message-ID: From: "Reko Turja" To: , References: <000f01cb5a27$4823a0f0$d86ae2d0$@com.au> <211f17580cb0ee7e5fac2831faf33e90.squirrel@hal.psst.com.au> In-Reply-To: <211f17580cb0ee7e5fac2831faf33e90.squirrel@hal.psst.com.au> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:05:30 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Cc: Subject: Re: CYRUS IMAP cyradm core dump problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:05:55 -0000 > I applied the patch as suggested by Reko, but it seemed to make no=20 > difference After the patch recompiling and linking at least SASL is needed after=20 buildworld and inatallation of new world. > removing libgssapiv2 libs however, solved my cyradm problem > > will this cause issues into the future for any other ports I may=20 > need ti > install ? Unless you need kerberos authentication at some point, removing the=20 libs is non-issue. -Reko=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 14:02:39 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED6F106566C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5256C8FC1A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-219-100.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.219.100]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1C61E60D; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:02:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8NE2ajN001498; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:02:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:02:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jorge Biquez Message-Id: <20100923160236.dbd09e57.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:02:39 -0000 On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:29:38 -0500, Jorge Biquez wrote: > I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience > on what path to follow? KDE? any other? For many years now, I am happily using WindowMaker as my main desktop. It can be configured easily and does STAY OUT OF YOUR WAY, means it SUPPORTS you with the actions you intendedly want to take, so you can do whatever you want instead of messing with the window manager. It's also very lightweight. I've also tried tiling window managers, but their magic sadly didn't open up to me. Another lightweight, allthough "obsolete" (but still powerful) GUI is XFCE. When I write XFCE, I mean XFCE version 3. If I would mean Xfce 4, I would write Xfce. :-) A highly customizable and "still" quite professional environment is fvwm2. You can add as much stuff as you like, but you can also switch off all annoying things. > I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if > possible that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use > it as my desktop plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc) I still have a 300 MHz P2 with XFCE 3 that does *ALL* you just mentioned, and it does it fine. Keep in mind that your choice of window manager (or even full desktop environment) may depend on which applications you're using. For example, if you find KDE's applications best, you will probably want to use them with KDE, allthough you could also use them with Gnome, or even with WindowMaker (as I sometimes do for the two KDE programs I occassionally have to use). On the other hand, if the Gnome set of applications fits your needs better, go with Gnome. Internationalisation and language support can also be a thing to consider. In the past, I was often disappointed with KDE's sloppy and missing translations; as a German, I tried the german variant, but found that it is not very well supported - that was in KDE 3, maybe KDE 4 is better. Gnome in fact *had* a much better german language support. Finally, I switched all back to english (except OpenOffice) because the NATIVE language of the system and the applications is better than anything else. Finally, choosing a GUI may really be a "trial & error" path. And if your need change, your choice may change, too. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 14:10:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FCD106564A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7BB8FC08 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-219-100.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.219.100]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB721E406; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:10:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8NEAA2b001508; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:10:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:10:09 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <20100923161009.026d950c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100923110216.GA1861@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100923110216.GA1861@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rebuilding world - is "chflags -R noschg *" necessary? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:10:12 -0000 On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:02:17 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I've never seen a file under /usr/obj/ with immutable flag set. I think it was a directory called empty/ that couldn't be removed unless the flag was unset. This makes this step neccessary when you rm -rf /usr/obj the object subtree. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 14:42:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F52106567A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:42:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8219D8FC08 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8NEgb1n076048; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:42:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4C9B675D.7070500@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:42:37 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100912 Thunderbird/3.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <20100923110216.GA1861@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100923161009.026d950c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100923161009.026d950c.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rebuilding world - is "chflags -R noschg *" necessary? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:42:40 -0000 On 09/23/10 15:10, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:02:17 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> I've never seen a file under /usr/obj/ with immutable flag set. > > I think it was a directory called empty/ that couldn't be removed > unless the flag was unset. This makes this step neccessary when > you rm -rf /usr/obj the object subtree. I think you're thinking of /var/empty, not something under /usr/obj. On my machine find fails to find anything immutable under /usr/obj. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 14:54:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF50106566B for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elon@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de) Received: from emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de [130.149.58.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115EB8FC12 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (localhost.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de [127.0.0.1]) by emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8NEsYkc023100 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:54:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from elon@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de) Received: (from elon@localhost) by emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o8NEsYbh023099 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:54:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from elon) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:54:34 +0200 From: Leon =?iso-8859-15?Q?Me=DFner?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100923145434.GN15702@emmi.physik-pool.tu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Does this look reasonable (y/n)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:54:38 -0000 Hello, i have quite a common question i think but my google skills didn't bring up anything decent. If you use binary freebsd-update to upgrade between major releases it starts comparing config files at some point. After the manual merges it start's "automerge" and asks you: Does this look reasonable (y/n)? for every file. If you answer n freebsd-update bails out (after working for like ages getting patches/files etc.) So wouldn't it be nice to give the user a chance to resolve the merge or at least ask if the user really wants to quit the upgrade. Am i missing something here? regards, leon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 15:20:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85844106564A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:20:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDBC8FC20 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 97-126-31-96.tukw.qwest.net ([97.126.31.96] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OynSj-0005Ei-Tg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:11:55 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:20:23 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:20:23 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:20:29 -0000 --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: > Hello all. >=20 > In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under=20 > terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved=20 > that way I have never tried any graphical interface. >=20 > I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience=20 > on what path to follow? KDE? any other? >=20 > I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if=20 > possible that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use=20 > it as my desktop plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc) >=20 > Thanks in advance >=20 > Jorge Biquez >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" After trying a few different WMs, I settled on xmonad. It's minimalist -- meaning it stays out of your way. It's also highly configurable, in Haskell. It's lightweight and fast. It's a developer's WM. I haven't been at all attracted to the various desktop managers: KDE, GNOME, etc. What do you get for all that weight? --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMm3A3AAoJEIpckszW26+RpSEH+gLC8+fr7wzme1P5jaVtVUA5 +2kT8Zddo2ULTw9AjfJQrGlRUcwj6DZj+bOLqA5TPkjcqyGIQU49VNy3hB8TSlh2 BCfpxJ6GHozDjzSDoMVXxXCq07gCbKPGn2QG56VTpH4hNvY1ma7KNfxi9oNTgFP6 X3CH0/gpk+zMlEO+h/CvUJPWwDIa0DLkHft3G58fEAZIsSu9VqfC1fYjcC9Spwec 8Yz255speLL8poxB2my4hthVuxbmiP0QzAjQ4zwwKaLhQpmoGQn50IZR2mg3pYs3 FSVG0Nzq6BX7xC1X2uhRCq83XOMTj90T/CIGEDjbKkUAyB2s526H8eIzp0YZJ+w= =0eyr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 15:44:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA776106566C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repcsike@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4CE8FC0A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:44:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so1970435iwn.13 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:44:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SZPfRC0HYdPV3Q/cOLfSTx6GZbaaWKFvNFSiYU1D8+g=; b=jI8Wc81LdGEaFfjrAp/36SFDG4JsJK/MH8L7EFko3rYIujGG71J/QvvQdnr58PrD4P 1fKmX4uot9W0Ze+46TcSMBxKUz1ZvGq/Hf7Vkk7ALsqas89nP/35PYTpjS0E9r7lZXxd uFHA8wVxsM34j7R3yMIxPsZhr4ESqYulpsBJY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aWXNKCsKnUGzqeD91kZYguHjZLz0rvkWM7VmEEjV+AphqGFtuOgTvGfukk7VhHnQTE zDJjMLaTy5ZHayYLXGPXmZ33GwYE2hQZbCwROPGfQYdyCzGgfY4g5j8aj2XKfRVWHA1e mQFVO9VS+QHOWPjmuUpXN4hCeek5tr+EEmB3g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.147.202 with SMTP id m10mr2401287ibv.2.1285255060356; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.79.14 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:17:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C9B675D.7070500@qeng-ho.org> References: <20100923110216.GA1861@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100923161009.026d950c.freebsd@edvax.de> <4C9B675D.7070500@qeng-ho.org> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:17:40 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?QmFs4XpzIE3hdOlmZnk=?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: rebuilding world - is "chflags -R noschg *" necessary? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:44:15 -0000 Hello! Anton is right, really the handbook says that it MAY contain, so it's not necessary that after every build there will be some files with the immutable flag. OFF: Long long time ago one night when I was playing with jails (to be exact I was building and making work my first jail by hand) I got to know this little thing known as immutable, after building a jail, and after #&@$ing it up (sry :)) I could not delete it. It was a funny discovery I remember I was new to FBSD and unix in general:). ON: I think maybe in older releases the build process may have used the immutable flag at build??, but the test machine I tried, started out as maybe 5.2, and I never had this issue once. Now I'm at 8.1-REL. After you make installworld you get some files immutable, check this: # cd /usr/src/ # make installworld DESTDIR=/usr/home/testworld/ # cd /usr/home/testworld # find . -xdev -flags +schg -exec ls -la {} \; -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18584 Sep 23 16:54 ./bin/rcp -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1150968 Sep 23 16:53 ./lib/libc.so.7 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 32104 Sep 23 16:53 ./lib/libcrypt.so.5 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 76412 Sep 23 16:54 ./lib/libthr.so.3 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 220596 Sep 23 16:54 ./libexec/ld-elf.so.1 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 663616 Sep 23 16:55 ./sbin/init -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 18588 Sep 23 16:56 ./usr/bin/chpass -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 18588 Sep 23 16:56 ./usr/bin/chfn -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 18588 Sep 23 16:56 ./usr/bin/chsh -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 18588 Sep 23 16:56 ./usr/bin/ypchpass -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 18588 Sep 23 16:56 ./usr/bin/ypchfn -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 18588 Sep 23 16:56 ./usr/bin/ypchsh -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 21836 Sep 23 16:56 ./usr/bin/login -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4792 Sep 23 16:56 ./usr/bin/opieinfo -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11868 Sep 23 16:56 ./usr/bin/opiepasswd -r-sr-xr-x 2 root wheel 6160 Sep 23 16:56 ./usr/bin/passwd -r-sr-xr-x 2 root wheel 6160 Sep 23 16:56 ./usr/bin/yppasswd -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11244 Sep 23 16:56 ./usr/bin/rlogin -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8896 Sep 23 16:56 ./usr/bin/rsh -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14500 Sep 23 16:56 ./usr/bin/su -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 27044 Sep 23 16:56 ./usr/bin/crontab -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 16604 Sep 23 16:54 ./usr/lib/librt.so.1 total 4 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Sep 23 16:53 . drwxr-xr-x 22 root wheel 512 Sep 23 16:53 .. # rm -rf testworld/ rm: testworld/bin/rcp: Operation not permitted rm: testworld/bin: Directory not empty rm: testworld/lib/libc.so.7: Operation not permitted rm: testworld/lib/libcrypt.so.5: Operation not permitted rm: testworld/lib/libthr.so.3: Operation not permitted rm: testworld/lib: Directory not empty rm: testworld/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Operation not permitted rm: testworld/libexec: Directory not empty rm: testworld/sbin/init: Operation not permitted and so on... Anton if you wanna be sure just do it, or test it with the version you are using, but I don't think you will find any immutable files in /usr/obj /usr/obj]# find . -flags +schg -exec ls -la {} \; /usr/obj]# Sorry if this was a bit long, but I hope it helpded! Regards, Balazs. On 23 September 2010 16:42, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 09/23/10 15:10, Polytropon wrote: > >> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:02:17 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht< >> mexas@bristol.ac.uk> wrote: >> >>> I've never seen a file under /usr/obj/ with immutable flag set. >>> >> >> I think it was a directory called empty/ that couldn't be removed >> unless the flag was unset. This makes this step neccessary when >> you rm -rf /usr/obj the object subtree. >> > > I think you're thinking of /var/empty, not something under /usr/obj. On my > machine find fails to find anything immutable under /usr/obj. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 15:56:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CED1065673 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323868FC0C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyoAE-0004RD-NA; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:56:50 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1OyoAE-0002x3-J4; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:56:50 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8NFuo6S052995; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:56:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o8NFuos8052994; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:56:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:56:50 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Bal?zs M?t?ffy Message-ID: <20100923155649.GA52798@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100923110216.GA1861@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20100923161009.026d950c.freebsd@edvax.de> <4C9B675D.7070500@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rebuilding world - is "chflags -R noschg *" necessary? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:56:52 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 05:17:40PM +0200, Bal?zs M?t?ffy wrote: > > I think maybe in older releases the build process may have used the > immutable flag at build??, but the test machine I tried, started out as > maybe 5.2, and I never had this issue once. *skip* > Anton if you wanna be sure just do it, or test it with the version you are > using, but I don't think you will find any immutable files in /usr/obj I'm thinking about updating the handbook on this issue. So I was hoping to hear a definite answer that there will not be any files under /usr/obj/ with immutable flags. I can't see a need for immutable flag for obj files, but I have been wrong before.. thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 16:11:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D670B10656A3 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A04D68FC1B for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17980 invoked by uid 0); 23 Sep 2010 16:11:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2010 16:11:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=j0tJAX4IBIz4ObEgcKbohv41MAg7S0p4U3H5LQb2EcJL7vQ8/vYbnTMbOGp4pDxvcuI5WPWccM7Nvjre+splZI7grfsD/+OvlGKb4nq048VYYQ8xVYV+QhhLqOEWwFtW; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyoOe-000263-J0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:11:45 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:07:45 -0600 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:07:45 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100923160745.GA18043@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:11:49 -0000 --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 09:57:46PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >=20 > You don't have to choose one of those, there are lots of varied window=20 > managers, and advocates for each. There's an overview here on fd.o: > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Desktops. Many of those are in ports. That's a much shorter list than I would have expected to find. This offers an incomplete (but longer) list of window managers, all of which are copyfree licensed: http://copyfree.org/software/#WM What I have been using for a few years is actually first in alphabetical order there -- AHWM. It is quite minimal and fast, with great keyboard shortcut support (a necessity, given that it's intended to be primarily keyboard driven). A much more comprehensive list of window managers is the Comprehensive List of Window Managers for Unix: http://www.gilesorr.com/wm/table.html KDE, GNOME, and XFCE are more than window managers -- they are "desktop environments". Some people like that kind of bloat . . . err, I mean "that kind of feature-richness". Other examples include GNUstep (which uses WindowMaker as its default window manager) and Enlightenment. If I *had* to choose a complete DE, rather than just a window manager, I'd probably go with Enlightenment. Since I don't have to, though, I stick with something *truly* lightweight like AHWM. Your mileage may vary, of course. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkybe1EACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVOVACeLcyZHvuz3eU3nmXXOK5yNN+K c4UAoMKzno4Lt9aP1kYzp/JsileTKZuc =b8lM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vtzGhvizbBRQ85DL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 16:22:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA8C1065672 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7AE8FC0C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so1480283fxm.13 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:22:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZOgsq9c6AntYITOAPS9Rdh++jcjzYhFULQhZe4QRwMY=; b=U5ya7qSnxO52e61T/Sg4Bq+zgvBeX6CbG+UTIUwO9rJ2xSTNkUtd6IkaxjMZljv7zT ql5ZAQnOW8PhyNRDaSN+qvbe2E1qBU/vltdbbxp4aMU3NlfyaM923wxcgKUds5SD4i7/ r5vUIS1O2YYXp4L9XQtbw60njczTl2RaJEpkI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=VkwBqAvHnHgPSqbcb/PDoOLUAoGQivH0fgXE++v+w2pQU37o15co/6mc40D0XcqiXp Zbw96GfZuLdvuQ81y65cxJS+5mls0oV10JooWr53Q5KYyu+4Qn0/BXt+akuQIMRwpcNi M3cDl/4jiI4TahO022UwpBAp+RKrfKItpfODo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.124.206 with SMTP id v14mr1068307far.52.1285258941703; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.104.201 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:22:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009231004.21559.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <4C9B03DB.6000806@netfence.it> <201009231004.21559.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:22:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Mike Clarke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:22:23 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Mike Clarke wrote: > When I first tried KDE4 it was much slower than KDE3, have things > improved sufficiently since then for me to think about upgrading? > If you tried on KDE 4.1, 4.2, then yes things have improved a lot. 4.3 was pretty big update in terms of stability, and 4.4 has been far more solid than not. All the base KDE apps seem to work appropriately, at least the ones I use. However in my use while KDE4 was unstable early, it was always faster than 3 at least when an app wasn't hung ;). Also for me, I went back and forth between 3 and 4 several times before finally sticking with 4. The UI does take some getting used too. Perhaps another part of the stability question is I don't turn on any of the fancy eye-candy effects. I don't use KDE because of the way it looks, I use it because it allows me to work in a efficient manner. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 16:52:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F711065693 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from woodbine.london.02.net (woodbine.london.02.net [87.194.255.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00FD8FC12 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by woodbine.london.02.net (8.5.124.10) id 4C8D7834003BF9E2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:42:09 +0100 Message-ID: <4C9B8360.6090100@onetel.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:42:08 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091212) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: which perl? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:52:59 -0000 Hi, Todays ports tree has lang/perl5.10 and lang/perl5.12. A new 8.1-RELEASE jail in tinderbox using this ports tree is using perl5.10 by default. Should I leave this as is or should I be using 5.12? This is for a home desktop. eco# uname -a FreeBSD eco.config 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 19 02:55:53 UTC 2010 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 17:21:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DF710656A3 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623458FC23 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:21:08 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AikFAJQim0zUnw4T/2dsb2JhbACUPI12cccAhUEE Received: from outmx04.plus.net ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 23 Sep 2010 17:51:53 +0100 Received: from helix.plus.com ([84.92.153.232] helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by outmx04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Oyp1U-0002lN-Im; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:51:52 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oyp1T-0001Fs-6v; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:51:51 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:51:50 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <201009231004.21559.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201009231751.51099.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Adam Vande More Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:21:09 -0000 On Thursday 23 September 2010, Adam Vande More wrote: > If you tried on KDE 4.1, 4.2, then yes things have improved a lot. > =A04.3 was pretty big update in terms of stability, and 4.4 has been > far more solid than not. =A0All the base KDE apps seem to work > appropriately, at least the ones I use. =A0However in my use while KDE4 > was unstable early, it was always faster than 3 at least when an app > wasn't hung ;). =A0Also for me, I went back and forth between 3 and 4 > several times before finally sticking with 4. =A0The UI does take some > getting used too. I think the version I tried was 4.3.1 so it looks like it might be worth=20 giving 4.4 a try on my spare partition. My other problem with upgrading KDE is that I'd like to run both=20 versions for a while until I'm happy, dual booting into one of 2=20 different FreeBSD systems but using the same /home partition. KMail=20 seems to use different directories for storing mail for versions 3 and=20 4 so how do I go about being able to access all my mail from both=20 systems? =2D-=20 Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 17:46:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FC0106564A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:46:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0D68FC1C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so2365091wwc.31 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:46:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.20.18 with SMTP id o18mr1809375weo.31.1285263981292; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.216.170.7 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:46:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C9B8360.6090100@onetel.com> References: <4C9B8360.6090100@onetel.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:46:21 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XpIPhMJpBOdQRLd1tTvLD1Fj5l8 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Chris Whitehouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: which perl? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:46:23 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Chris Whitehouse wro= te: > Hi, > > Todays ports tree has lang/perl5.10 and lang/perl5.12. A new 8.1-RELEASE > jail in tinderbox using this ports tree is using perl5.10 by default. Sho= uld > I leave this as is or should I be using 5.12? > IMHO 5.10 is new enough! But the great thing about the Perl community is that it usually respects previous versions not like some other crazy, irresponsible "communities" such as PHP who can break your code from 5.2 to 5.3. > This is for a home desktop. > > eco# uname -a > FreeBSD eco.config 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 19 02:55:5= 3 > UTC 2010 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC =A0i38= 6 > > > thanks > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 17:48:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC761065679 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714408FC17 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so2368289wwc.31 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:48:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HWm3lj5208h07F7yBCc45okS0ds9G4e2JlN0D35G5xg=; b=GnAAiDGWgSDBqWbEjzCAY49ql6OWrwTU0XzV33Sc/noGbzPckN7xLhrQnSJAQKP8A/ kJBc2DVQJgG5GqUluLM8I6Lmk4iTmSVauf7P+vFgWjyNfWra2oLTYE0qhruN8YreKZZQ ye8Hhvsdx0Qof1li5/7/8lLLk0zQXF0dHeOa8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nJphGuNHjKjSgNEDlHf1rTitdbhktwIz6tRmGnGXW1PgPK2HuoY/649Seds42wNFTI hsGVAhrO8lEPvzAh1NMSYGgw0zO3CxV3zyCXXInE0s4IqvYls5k2eQzpIFeHelFxJ3Gp 056nTawlRbPZTPMx5cSM5hXVL+RQ+AigGiWF8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.87.84 with SMTP id x62mr5472548wee.48.1285262698062; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.3.136 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:24:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:24:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:48:45 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: >> Hello all. >> >> In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under >> terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved >> that way I have never tried any graphical interface. >> >> I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience >> on what path to follow? KDE? any other? >> >> I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if >> possible that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use >> it as my desktop plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc) >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Jorge Biquez >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" > > After trying a few different WMs, I settled on xmonad. =A0It's minimalist > -- meaning it stays out of your way. =A0It's also highly configurable, in > Haskell. =A0It's lightweight and fast. =A0It's a developer's WM. > If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and vim-like (among other things ;-). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 17:49:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC89A10656AC for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:49:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Received: from pukruppa.de (pd95cabe3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.92.171.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1CC8FC21 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:49:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8NHK11j045948; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:20:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Received: from localhost (ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id o8NHK14l045740; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:20:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:20:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: Chris Whitehouse In-Reply-To: <4C9B8360.6090100@onetel.com> Message-ID: References: <4C9B8360.6090100@onetel.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: which perl? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:49:38 -0000 On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Hi, > > Todays ports tree has lang/perl5.10 and lang/perl5.12. A new 8.1-RELEASE jail > in tinderbox using this ports tree is using perl5.10 by default. Should I > leave this as is or should I be using 5.12? > > This is for a home desktop. > > eco# uname -a > FreeBSD eco.config 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 19 02:55:53 > UTC 2010 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > Of course you never know, but on my Desktop I have got 390 ports depending on perl5.12 and everything seems to work. Greetings Uli. > > thanks > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | Wuppertal | Germany From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 18:01:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B733106564A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-announce@chthonic.com) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.org [192.94.73.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3341E8FC0A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8NHTUlq001002 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:29:30 GMT Received: (from ja@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.4/8.12.8/Submit) id o8NHTUJT028846 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:29:30 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: sdf.lonestar.org: ja set sender to freebsd-announce@chthonic.com using -f Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:29:30 +0000 From: "J. Altman" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100923172930.GA12324@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Python 2 and Python 3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:01:56 -0000 Greetings... uname -a: FreeBSD whisperer.chthonixia.net 8.1-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p1 #0: Mon Sep 20 13:09:28 EDT 2010 root@whisperer.chthonixia.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WHISPERER amd64 I am interested in installing Python 3 to follow examples in a beginner's programming book. I found this: ======================== http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=17423 September 1st, 2010, 12:49 I have python 2.5, 2.6 and 3.1 installed. Python 2.6 is the default now I believe so you should not need to do anything special. To be safe you can edit make.conf to contain the following Code: PYTHON_VERSION=2.6 PYTHON_DEFAULT_VERSION=2.6 ==================================== As I understand it, the entry into make.conf should keep me from breaking python-related things in the base or ports; yet allow me to call the version I want at the command line or via IDLE. Then, when Python is upgraded, I should change the make.conf entry to 2.7, or whatever it becomes. Is there any other recommendation(s) this list might offer? I don't have any major goals beyond those of a self-taught beginner, if that makes sense. Please feel free to Cc: me, as I am not subscribed to the list. Thanks for your time, and best regards, Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 18:04:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8356106566C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:04:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFB08FC0A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 97-126-31-96.tukw.qwest.net ([97.126.31.96] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oyq11-0007vQ-QQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:55:29 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:03:58 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:03:58 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: User Questions Message-ID: <20100923180358.GB14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: User Questions References: <4C9B8360.6090100@onetel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: which perl? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:04:03 -0000 --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Peter Ulrich Kruppa on Thursday, 23 September 2010: > On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >=20 > >Hi, > > > >Todays ports tree has lang/perl5.10 and lang/perl5.12. A new 8.1-RELEASE= =20 > >jail in tinderbox using this ports tree is using perl5.10 by default.=20 > >Should I leave this as is or should I be using 5.12? > > > >This is for a home desktop. > > > >eco# uname -a > >FreeBSD eco.config 8.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul 19 02:55:= 53=20 > >UTC 2010 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > > Of course you never know, but on my Desktop I have got 390 ports=20 > depending on perl5.12 and everything seems to work. >=20 > Greetings >=20 > Uli. >=20 Ditto here. 220 dependent ports, no troubles. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMm5aOAAoJEIpckszW26+R6P4H/jTdTvqVu21lhMJ4XQbGsp9Y xYW1BmstvPbctDQKwLa2podYs560KsZmshfNBEYQUOFHAe8N1r8DT13CLsCXO6OS GOQjzdb8IXDWGywUunPj85HQFEzlpEQoaWbV1tG0Hh56KAaMd9CWxxx4XuHMDCbx Eo0Yc+tXlJ60qbCgS3J0C1jXjESlse3Hcyo3JMhdp6IAWEgweRikYFlMzVYG9nRX rNao2bG89/DBSAnQe/YFOErHhShICBGj+AV5G/Zkm7ih20QrQSAyUUjF24FQtD8v dAc9Ku6aYIMNdjiL2jrkiaapkmXJg8vN6wDitHpVh/fum3IY9/dd58rcpAk7OuQ= =mfCJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 18:23:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8F0106566B for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leif.walsh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967658FC19 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so2066527iwn.13 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:23:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=xAHBhjtXFw3BX60Fp2xxLunG2a+WhQeJPpteGGwwzH4=; b=vHzP4YXMo+grdQYlIkw19Jwa6BVLErnoH+riqmsdkeGpEzlFFRrForlInGtlqtcu8H wKV7Dp3bDBQXnHeezxuw4TFDQhJ6luJwXuw96jArNcoXvYdNJg/JoK5+HOzNoihv12Tu xQENXKwzLOEKYtxVPBLVBjKDrcocEnEbnVuPg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Y/P1/z9WGfxzLu0qyieyaTR3/9bPdZ0kdL2PttW6SPZgK2JC7oKfE+hYpaBbfABWJC x0CxlukqiGvcuR4sQuh0lXDziVF6hj2XyNc8qGnpJID2+FehPp3hhXVPFdQzpg4MeXLN TdGYI2UYsMaz+Ob+XSIQ5c58pPGT+O8gd8l9U= Received: by 10.231.15.76 with SMTP id j12mr2350402iba.30.1285264800744; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:00:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.194.104 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:59:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Leif Walsh Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:59:40 -0400 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Linux filesystems accessible from FreeBSD 8-stable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:23:30 -0000 I can't seem to get a definitive answer on this from the internet, there's a lot of conflicting information. I have some data drives formatted with ext4, which I'd like to access from freebsd, preferably without totally reformatting because I don't have much temp space for copying. Read-only would be fine, read-write would be much preferred. Is this possible? Am I missing the big "ext4 drivers in freebsd/fuse/something" sign? Does anyone happen to know if it's possible to migrate an ext4 drive back to ext3, which it seems I can access from bsd if I let it pretend the journal doesn't exist? -- Cheers, Leif From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 18:28:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812841065674 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E088FC26 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 97-126-31-96.tukw.qwest.net ([97.126.31.96] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyqOv-0006vZ-59 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:20:10 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:28:40 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:28:39 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100923182839.GC14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="f+W+jCU1fRNres8c" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:28:45 -0000 --f+W+jCU1fRNres8c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Chip Camden > wrote: > > Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: > >> Hello all. > >> > >> In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under > >> terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved > >> that way I have never tried any graphical interface. > >> > >> I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience > >> on what path to follow? KDE? any other? > >> > >> I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if > >> possible that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use > >> it as my desktop plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc) > >> > >> Thanks in advance > >> > >> Jorge Biquez > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebs= d.org" > > > > After trying a few different WMs, I settled on xmonad. =A0It's minimali= st > > -- meaning it stays out of your way. =A0It's also highly configurable, = in > > Haskell. =A0It's lightweight and fast. =A0It's a developer's WM. > > >=20 > If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, > lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and > vim-like (among other things ;-). > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" scrotwm does look interesting -- I read through the man page, but couldn't find a way to specify that certain windows should be moved by default to specific workspaces. Can that be done? --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --f+W+jCU1fRNres8c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMm5xXAAoJEIpckszW26+RlukIAK598by5WPbZMHnx6mgq2QMX urhgnN1+lFvCU5oBTRCevg8z+Z79UNgI9UebEsavBFOZA/RwHtHH0NQQ5dnuPduM JVALJ3vYlOY1sJ0rOYOmbbOeGQaWWRBmJ0SY1hqD5sXyuItHIC0CohjsvQAHGsaj 2rCVSVX1AlIF0W3V+cy8ZSZeJUJbjljavnxk7Tm36kxAUBziIK+oKUXfffeuizYV lz+U5G2ErDIroyOtIBvca00D0t2tKoGXwlsYHSAtcFx5TIyWCHKvygdw7tDCFIcm 3jdx1NesNG5m1jRz+pVVnznNz0K/YdnR2gDAK5gFNFRkaWpgaw6CI9PKSzYxCbI= =XFsB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --f+W+jCU1fRNres8c-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 18:38:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE76106566B for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90808FC1C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so2518702wyb.13 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:38:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=emhwHQ8jnquXt685FaJ/RqUMVxvEJ0fFly4wVcRksJE=; b=wpnUS4FifjnCiAh3084cSR/Al4hK4oS4YJRQhJifctVj4Xk9xqDGnlma5DF94Femw8 ruo9x0vH8rZdXHMgXCCCM1cGE75pEgCRAQR/9HRJx/oCa6GLSDWSMx4Wp90iGlkj1tdk nQhbTWgIpDs2YxXaO0nzO60WXqNAvyM+Bkcwk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ORdtgFIXdEs3c+TWYKPrj8saSMFrzSSCCWgibY56GqLM0vZx+Akoj73PtOBobAxHUC uh6Spva9BuSdSV/TrPA5+SmTSsFjdZCA4SV5yOEKkDfpG3/LAB152kPbUK2lbwj+miKA fGinN0ivk+EHKjFPxpNp9Dcdi9StNDnjRg9e8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.89.146 with SMTP id c18mr1223463wef.33.1285267118504; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.3.136 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:38:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100923182839.GC14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100923182839.GC14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:38:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:38:41 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Chip Camden >> wrote: >> > Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: >> >> Hello all. >> >> >> >> In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under >> >> terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved >> >> that way I have never tried any graphical interface. >> >> >> >> I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience >> >> on what path to follow? KDE? any other? >> >> >> >> I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if >> >> possible that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use >> >> it as my desktop plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc) >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> >> >> Jorge Biquez >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb= sd.org" >> > >> > After trying a few different WMs, I settled on xmonad. =A0It's minimal= ist >> > -- meaning it stays out of your way. =A0It's also highly configurable,= in >> > Haskell. =A0It's lightweight and fast. =A0It's a developer's WM. >> > >> >> If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, >> lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and >> vim-like (among other things ;-). >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" > > scrotwm does look interesting -- I read through the man page, but > couldn't find a way to specify that certain windows should be moved by > default to specific workspaces. =A0Can that be done? > I'm not too sure what you're asking "certain window should be moved by default to specific workspaces." Since you read the man page I'm guessing you're not talking about changing which xterm is in focus. Focus moves by defualt to each new tem that you open (alt-shift-return). Maybe www.scrotwm.org will help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 19:04:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFFB1065672 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B158A8FC08 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:04:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 97-126-31-96.tukw.qwest.net ([97.126.31.96] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oyqxc-0000zH-Ek for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:56:01 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:04:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:04:31 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100923190431.GD14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100923182839.GC14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eheScQNz3K90DVRs" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:04:37 -0000 --eheScQNz3K90DVRs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Chip Camden > wrote: > > Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: > >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Chip Camden > >> wrote: > >> > Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: > >> >> Hello all. > >> >> > >> >> In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under > >> >> terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved > >> >> that way I have never tried any graphical interface. > >> >> > >> >> I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience > >> >> on what path to follow? KDE? any other? > >> >> > >> >> I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if > >> >> possible that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use > >> >> it as my desktop plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc) > >> >> > >> >> Thanks in advance > >> >> > >> >> Jorge Biquez > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@fre= ebsd.org" > >> > > >> > After trying a few different WMs, I settled on xmonad. =A0It's minim= alist > >> > -- meaning it stays out of your way. =A0It's also highly configurabl= e, in > >> > Haskell. =A0It's lightweight and fast. =A0It's a developer's WM. > >> > > >> > >> If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, > >> lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and > >> vim-like (among other things ;-). > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebs= d.org" > > > > scrotwm does look interesting -- I read through the man page, but > > couldn't find a way to specify that certain windows should be moved by > > default to specific workspaces. =A0Can that be done? > > >=20 > I'm not too sure what you're asking "certain window should be moved by > default to specific workspaces." Since you read the man page I'm > guessing you're not talking about changing which xterm is in focus. > Focus moves by defualt to each new tem that you open > (alt-shift-return). >=20 > Maybe www.scrotwm.org will help. > _______________________________________________ Nope. The wiki doesn't present anything either. What I mean is for example when I launch Firefox, I want it to go to workspace 3. When I launch gimp, I want it on workspace 7. I can easily specify that in xmonad, using either the window class or window title. I don't want to have to move all these windows where I want them every time I log in. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --eheScQNz3K90DVRs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMm6S/AAoJEIpckszW26+RymAH/1lwVlpXQmqWZDgjHt35ylKY 7bH812hfizp/TM0BokO2f495vZje7GqmVmJLVYbEDzcOzapnOVHUZ7kdjAebEyiI oKOJ0WkPum1covcq/wTGQAuF6LMRy3aARp7FqyUf6MSJ3uABuz+6hvqhH490jnRN vj/7n/c9HfMehVkyHu3pF/pCwRQureNoPwWGcKHtXEzSCwto33cqWTrs6f5jqVMW P+804hgthO5Vay/OKeULZGxfmZu4xunatTZcQNuahjr3lVRFITSRfh0U3CYNqTlj lO0MkEMhBUaFohfyJRMDq5Sun7afT6kMTCCBi1+icPxHE777QFErTjQIiOFYF7c= =/d90 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eheScQNz3K90DVRs-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 19:09:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE55E106566C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481BD8FC1E for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id E810B471825 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:09:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA4F3865B4 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:09:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:09:17 +0200 Message-Id: <201009232109.AA205456040@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Len Conrad" X-Sender: To: X-Mailer: Subject: amr intermittant failures X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:09:14 -0000 uname -a FreeBSD mx6 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 07:18:07 UTC 2009 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 dmesg.boot: amr0: mem 0xf80f0000-0xf80fffff,0xfe9e0000-0xfe9fffff irq 46 at device 14.0 on pci2 amr0: Using 64-bit DMA amr0: [ITHREAD] amr0: delete logical drives supported by controller amr0: Firmware 522A, BIOS H430, 256MB RAM errors: Sep 21 18:01:32 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80229fc8. Controller is likely dead Sep 21 21:51:32 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80229970. Controller is likely dead Sep 22 00:36:31 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe802201e0. Controller is likely dead Sep 22 03:01:36 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80229b40. Controller is likely dead Sep 22 03:02:25 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80228af0. Controller is likely dead Sep 22 03:05:54 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80228838. Controller is likely dead Sep 22 09:36:29 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80226d60. Controller is likely dead Sep 22 09:41:29 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe8022a7f0. Controller is likely dead Sep 22 10:11:29 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80229ee0. Controller is likely dead Sep 22 10:56:29 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80229b40. Controller is likely dead Sep 22 11:16:29 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80224668. Controller is likely dead Sep 22 11:31:29 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80224f78. Controller is likely dead Sep 22 16:46:28 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80226c78. Controller is likely dead Sep 22 16:51:28 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80229230. Controller is likely dead Sep 22 22:01:27 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80227758. Controller is likely dead Sep 23 03:02:38 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80225400. Controller is likely dead Sep 23 03:03:42 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe802260b0. Controller is likely dead Sep 23 03:06:05 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80225970. Controller is likely dead Sep 23 03:11:26 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe802280f8. Controller is likely dead Sep 23 03:16:26 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80226aa8. Controller is likely dead Sep 23 04:41:26 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe802294e8. Controller is likely dead Sep 23 09:21:25 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80225318. Controller is likely dead Sep 23 09:41:25 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80228a08. Controller is likely dea Sep 23 12:01:25 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe802296b8. Controller is likely dead Sep 23 12:06:25 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe802241e0. Controller is likely dead Sep 23 12:36:24 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe802281e0. Contro Sep 23 14:06:24 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80228bd8. Controller is likely dead Sep 23 14:21:24 mx6 kernel: amr0: Too many retries on command 0xfffffffe80225230. Controller is likely dead these are apparently non fatal. VERY busy relay-only postfix MX boxes, two of them have the same errors. Disk is getting hit hard with postfix logging and msg queueing. Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 19:14:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3E4106564A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939878FC0C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so2488254wwc.31 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:14:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=V6RU+6h6YUi2AWUvlC3gxH47mq8FGtFvmVrWIUNcyr0=; b=AqRI89qU9kiRsOoIv1+IIi+SKa65biTyyFEjerkNsxwVkRJjR+NcrxL/d1z6HE5GTi QRfkGfCCUqR1V3JypTABzOx7edtoN0kKW+nn79QTzl74ZnC116j0MT0azwNio131u/Sk e9ZYBb6C7x7vCAu32ypu/6UtzOxgJNHgvbUBA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NB3Svd8ifx4suhqpwqnE4NEPMMr54mvEbSPs9TC9nN4HVCVfmDLKrFqlIhfkoPyUkf 33+DjMkiP2EfqvX9EUDAedjyQLlLM+e6Y2HCztg785nN/g4rOdTnOdsf+n67GmnjvFYG Ss8i3YnRmzN+OmBe9aUe09btgwsPfDdJx85m8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.8.138 with SMTP id 10mr8665675wer.57.1285269239303; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.3.136 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:13:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100923190431.GD14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100923182839.GC14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100923190431.GD14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:13:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:14:02 -0000 >On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Chip Camden = wrote: >> Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: >> >> I'm not too sure what you're asking "certain window should be moved by >> default to specific workspaces." Since you read the man page I'm >> guessing you're not talking about changing which xterm is in focus. >> Focus moves by defualt to each new tem that you open >> (alt-shift-return). >> >> Maybe www.scrotwm.org will help. >> _______________________________________________ > > Nope. =A0The wiki doesn't present anything either. > > What I mean is for example when I launch Firefox, I want it to go to > workspace 3. =A0When I launch gimp, I want it on workspace 7. =A0I can ea= sily > specify that in xmonad, using either the window class or window title. = =A0I > don't want to have to move all these windows where I want them every time > I log in. > Ah . . . I see. I'm not aware af that being a feature in scrotwm. The only thing I can suggest is to join the forum and ask. Like I said, scrotwm actively maintained and the devs will (likely) respond quickly. As far as what they say, suggestions are welcome, but they have to be persuaded. Best of luck. -Neal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 20:22:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C549106566B for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 526278FC19 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Sep 2010 19:55:23 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp061) with SMTP; 23 Sep 2010 21:55:23 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19U0ghWxqRU6nigCQ4HbDk8JPWBeZg89u+8+tziRv VuAthnb8tsrJxG Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:56:41 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100923195641.GB491@lynx> References: <20100923120014.3F63710656DA@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100923120014.3F63710656DA@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:22:06 -0000 If you prefer terminal applications you may get happy with blackbox. Its one of the smallest, but fully functional GUIs. And it is still kosher according to Unix standards. Its my favorite, I even prefer it to fluxbox, what is a little fancier. Cheers herb langhans -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau herbert.raimundgmx.net http://www.langhans.com.pl +0048 603 341 441 | jabber:herbs | icq:414500866 | yahoo_im:herbert.raimund From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 22:32:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F5C1065670 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651C78FC16 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so973993gyg.13 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:32:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.89.168 with SMTP id e40mr956074vcm.241.1285281128858; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.188.3 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:32:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [71.1.133.114] In-Reply-To: <20100923110216.GA1861@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20100923110216.GA1861@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:32:08 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: Anton Shterenlikht Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rebuilding world - is "chflags -R noschg *" necessary? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:32:10 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 04:02, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > The fbsd manual states in section 24.7 Rebuilding "world": > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html > > in subsection 24.7.6 Remove /usr/obj > > *quote* > Some files below /usr/obj may have the immutable flag set (see chflags(1) for more information) which must be removed first. > > # cd /usr/obj > # chflags -R noschg * > *end quote* > > I've never seen a file under /usr/obj/ with immutable flag set. > > Why would there be object files with immutable flag set? > Is this step really necessary? It will happen on amd64 if you build the lib32 bits (i386 compatibility libraries). -- Rob Farmer > > many thanks > anton > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 23:51:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE94E106566C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A6A8FC13 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so2875412wyb.13 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:51:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=pyn2Q7YeItrfB0hfKtzU91N8QVG2Ck7LNqMHIAn/kIU=; b=BB86+b6+iIdSEBD2B3F8W/VKRXmZ50LHpm8Ci6SBzzIB1mpdbKBlUBzjLpQN1QTUV0 5lladsTwInWRqWkuGCHKrKmHe3AEfjRzroDRomUMmMn0M2m8xuUNr++ZEYfcJH5Y6C+N NH9d8K7H6cOhegp2ke2p9nzn0ySUG5UWQeqQg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Sr0N7WlfMddhBBinypoZX54D2WUHNieny3h3MvB3vUB3+ufjrxiH+zy/mjIgBz10wI GcMx7CzVwmttQwM3a/vuHOQQ3jpO8AWTswrmOu1O+YpO9A6SHhOfOVKNRlFQHH1ES/cH ZrqA84gpY6Sq+Nchw7VNtDTadT8AE6i3fAbps= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.144.67 with SMTP id y3mr2164973wbu.127.1285284316560; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.72.143 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:25:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:25:16 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Jorge Biquez Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:51:29 -0000 On 22 September 2010 23:29, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Hello all. > > In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell > mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved that way I have never > tried any graphical interface. > > I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what > path to follow? KDE? any other? > > I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if possible > that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use it as my desktop > plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc) > x11/xorg x11-wm/evilwm www/opera x11/rxvt echo "evilwm -term rxvt -bw 2 &" > ~/.xinitrc && echo "rxvt" >> ~/.xinitrc google docs seems to work okay for _most_ of the junk that gets shoved down the tubes. There is no port for it, but theoretically you can compile siag office from sources. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 00:35:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5ED106564A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 00:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 462268FC14 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 00:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8205 invoked by uid 0); 24 Sep 2010 00:35:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Sep 2010 00:35:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Hah9hXm2R77O1ITp7oyXmKa1SFjVFJ1oVTSSWBq6Axv65YoTbUh4L0dWfWoUqzryf5ORSlbwzFFP+sFM7SBfZoRgqs5/Fw+x2KbscBrQOxnEGinq+D7bFs+JE5WyYXqD; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OywG0-0005DB-Ho for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:35:21 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:31:20 -0600 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:31:20 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100924003120.GA19235@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 00:35:22 -0000 --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: >=20 > If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, > lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and > vim-like (among other things ;-). Why is "written in C" considered such a great benefit by the Scrotwm developer(s)? Earlier today, I read this on the site: "On the other hand xmonad has great defaults, key bindings and xinerama support but is crippled by not being written in C." What's up with that? How does Haskell "cripple" xmonad? --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyb8VgACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUdRwCeNMeNmttwp/AdfwVPgMjMIfyH 2sEAnj8qxPhvKo7EnaydO98d1CrWw4Xd =aIG2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 00:57:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4EF106564A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 00:57:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74078FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 00:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 97-126-31-96.tukw.qwest.net ([97.126.31.96] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OywSu-00049q-6S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:48:41 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:57:13 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:57:13 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100924005713.GF2780@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100924003120.GA19235@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oPmsXEqKQNHCSXW7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100924003120.GA19235@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 00:57:19 -0000 --oPmsXEqKQNHCSXW7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 23 September 2010: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: > >=20 > > If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, > > lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and > > vim-like (among other things ;-). >=20 > Why is "written in C" considered such a great benefit by the Scrotwm > developer(s)? Earlier today, I read this on the site: >=20 > "On the other hand xmonad has great defaults, key bindings and > xinerama support but is crippled by not being written in C." >=20 > What's up with that? How does Haskell "cripple" xmonad? >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] I wondered the same thing myself. Haskell is compiled, and the result is= =20 very efficient. I also wondered why the mentions about being actively maintained -- it seems to me that xmonad gets updated pretty regularly. But I'm willing to give it a look. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --oPmsXEqKQNHCSXW7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMm/dpAAoJEIpckszW26+RFPcH/RU5T/sMQndFLQhWQOEi6X9a b6KiDyNGsZK9WPsgRlfWvT8erOlQpJJFFAmi/B+MJiimsselFoHxp8zZlCeKJHOU 7MYh1h82QfbNzMU/RR2g+tZ8/Ma0Lo5iK1tOgLdoNPHafRr5J4tBv7AtZpLZ6izV Ct4PIejZGXYYn47wUVjhvu+02s7ndzOks+Y6asUDV0EWLqShtRGeDVYvPcOHjVJw /EcF6z0/IIAszmpUNYM7bBQ4LMG/zl3M3qLjKaDDLGKB5coQ0Zcf3YIs2ICmO/1Y QeAmPOcV2eM/3A+ixhoX0CoqvkzeP3Lc8zpawmiUFRFbNRvegbRcLLKZ71Qq5J8= =GHHZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oPmsXEqKQNHCSXW7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 01:01:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6721065670 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 01:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228D38FC0C for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 01:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so554745qyk.13 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:01:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Oeho+pMbM0G2tJMhcmR8ch7hHIyOM4bK6uBc1M+eQkk=; b=Xqo3d5i0eCQT3Mw3t/i2kz7ELFVSxDtkx3am+vghj0pdKq0e3nB54Ap6aBDHf4PdcC +R1HBtLGwLWq4pgYS13ZuyBhh1zadzp2KiMxhOMnfwK9WNjV2oQwt3rsici9IXIVhgcV 5bXNBgtSoS8IIP6o9SCzXQcAwTWLn9wvcNYiE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=SC6efx//MSSIhIrsUC6WT92GqbogY6VUcNSA4n7QPkWYtOMKCGh9vl2joa8y3bzfg8 RY3Gi1m/Y7NomaEdqo3I4707NyEwiZgV8fof5qFCrtKZbSURp+c0Fw8tS+eUxL7PNkJW +twyMqzM+N1jjEDHSxDLfkZ1eTPhHLXIkGX00= Received: by 10.224.59.91 with SMTP id k27mr1893978qah.177.1285290091337; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schism.local (c-71-230-240-241.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.230.240.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r38sm1641518qcs.38.2010.09.23.18.01.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C9BF868.9000805@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:01:28 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100924003120.GA19235@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20100924003120.GA19235@guilt.hydra> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 01:01:32 -0000 On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: >> >> If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, >> lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and >> vim-like (among other things ;-). > > Why is "written in C" considered such a great benefit by the Scrotwm > developer(s)? Earlier today, I read this on the site: > > "On the other hand xmonad has great defaults, key bindings and > xinerama support but is crippled by not being written in C." > > What's up with that? How does Haskell "cripple" xmonad? > My interpretation is that if you will be compiling software for a UNIX-like system, you will probably have some variant of a C compiler already available. Read as "just build it and go" versus "just build its dependencies, then build it and go." Cheers, -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 02:07:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C585D106564A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 02:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0AC8FC18 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 02:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so2984825wyb.13 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:07:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XHID1r0kCe5h/d6d3vewcSog5L+KRJEXRq9wVS7ZeN8=; b=WXzeOJi8DUeIYX1xxN4rpYZyuo3u2imzxyTKQHjvU8O0ie4S82YmXtW1T04Yp4FSxh S6T1NppkVWdN9oyAHzbnLp38tcqyBUUFP2v3RI23CubizURVw7kaRpRpnhqBlQ1VECSW XdhoSTA3gyHw5i4hztbFaReKxEfsNi5PDI+ks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iS3Tfw/Ah8/nlqUwrW/KEY/D2x866qo1BAgZs8cp+vkTZEHvyl9EJhSPxGMSFT6VvU 4tTz+ajWybnshwM4qJlEZ2de6FWt/2O5jTiFKHDFPlex7mKGzQ2svB0zDIutrfbTQZRT nsQFs2KgCqRUmsFGxWk41ejtth9JkhqHQ44bA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.35.74 with SMTP id t52mr2158641wea.41.1285294048115; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.3.136 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:07:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C9BF868.9000805@gmail.com> References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100924003120.GA19235@guilt.hydra> <4C9BF868.9000805@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:07:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 02:07:29 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Glen Barber wrot= e: > On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: >>> >>> If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, >>> lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and >>> vim-like (among other things ;-). >> >> Why is "written in C" considered such a great benefit by the Scrotwm >> developer(s)? =A0Earlier today, I read this on the site: >> >> =A0 =A0 "On the other hand xmonad has great defaults, key bindings and >> =A0 =A0 xinerama support but is crippled by not being written in C." >> hahahahahahaha! >> What's up with that? =A0How does Haskell "cripple" xmonad? >> In the end, you need not take yourself so seriously. The thread was generic enough to allow for some rhetorical flourish. I suggested something . . . pointed out that is written in C (as did the homepage) . . . AND you concluded some sort of insult; not my problem. Do you need a rim-shot for every joke? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 02:20:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C30106564A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 02:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069DB8FC0C for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 02:20:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so2993588wyb.13 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:20:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1MMiOwl5u+UHjfm0Z+6PiIl9AoxPCbM+5lOAdNBJwwQ=; b=ElaqIBLQ1IWCLixSvKv/LV+WTpJFIrtkr8F3o9EyZDxv+jLYBESvmAaIkKlMt1mXf7 fGNIlpHYZLjGkxhYwK8F8Iwrs/utnFCNvlvSG+6o1hflcNym6+bkW2akYSN3UCcSn/hU NjfQrFi6p91DQC1MWW4aQs7NKRFGz4VRzFsgU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=klSyia0VDLiP4+wIGkGsKPDNG7KrtFSJFGK5UPQIP9zEhS8nUQyJ5h+1AxjyzYCtDv uUHXTtsX2lVWlk4t3hTsrKdHcRvgwkmX6k7OFYLo3CbiFs2UsdxZOr+FzMjpBZOm3m8l 3PRwjJ2nxA32dg4aX+bBnijssjuTo26dxJ1wk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.12.139 with SMTP id 11mr2178707wez.63.1285294833786; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.3.136 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:20:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100924005713.GF2780@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100924003120.GA19235@guilt.hydra> <20100924005713.GF2780@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:20:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 02:20:35 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 23 September 2010: >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: >> > >> > If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, >> > lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and >> > vim-like (among other things ;-). >> >> Why is "written in C" considered such a great benefit by the Scrotwm >> developer(s)? =A0Earlier today, I read this on the site: >> >> =A0 =A0 "On the other hand xmonad has great defaults, key bindings and >> =A0 =A0 xinerama support but is crippled by not being written in C." >> >> What's up with that? =A0How does Haskell "cripple" xmonad? >> >> -- >> Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] > > > I wondered the same thing myself. =A0Haskell is compiled, and the result = is > very efficient. > > I also wondered why the mentions about being actively maintained -- it se= ems > to me that xmonad gets updated pretty regularly. > I only mention scrotwm's active development, not to compare it's development to xmonad's, but to point out that your issues will be taken seriously . . . in a timely manner. . . not that they won't be take seriously in the xmonad setting. Please, use xmonad if it meets your requirements. I apologise for suggesting "something." Chad P., take a pill ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 02:53:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045C5106566B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 02:53:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C60518FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 02:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29645 invoked by uid 0); 24 Sep 2010 02:52:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Sep 2010 02:52:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=dxV6MApifwru055S3LnwePbaJzsh8RchgrLL8ixSoG+gQvzoUIt85+w5UfJYo0m4+9AafAvFQfPg/Byogq/T6QS20ad1eU+uRGAp1DFCTXPDdXBONnr1FiRpMhm8bm6R; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyyPB-0007O9-7n for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:52:58 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:48:56 -0600 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:48:56 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100924024856.GB19697@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100924003120.GA19235@guilt.hydra> <4C9BF868.9000805@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 02:53:00 -0000 --kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:07:28PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Glen Barber wr= ote: > > On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: > >>> > >>> If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, > >>> lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and > >>> vim-like (among other things ;-). > >> > >> Why is "written in C" considered such a great benefit by the Scrotwm > >> developer(s)? =A0Earlier today, I read this on the site: > >> > >> =A0 =A0 "On the other hand xmonad has great defaults, key bindings and > >> =A0 =A0 xinerama support but is crippled by not being written in C." > >> >=20 > hahahahahahaha! >=20 > >> What's up with that? =A0How does Haskell "cripple" xmonad? > >> >=20 > In the end, you need not take yourself so seriously. The thread was > generic enough to allow for some rhetorical flourish. I suggested > something . . . pointed out that is written in C (as did the homepage) > . . . AND you concluded some sort of insult; not my problem. >=20 > Do you need a rim-shot for every joke? 1. Who said I took insult? You assume too much. 2. That was not a very clever joke, anyway. Where's the punchline? 3. That doesn't answer my question about the Scrotwm page. Even *I* am not so socially stunted as to think a comment like that on the Scrotwm site would not raise some eyebrows. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkycEZgACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUvaQCg28CzZ/F/JWVZKh/SfCNOUGAO pE8AoNBhS5JTjcM/0JJbVrpGf/5X+Za6 =feJR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kORqDWCi7qDJ0mEj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 03:06:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CB9106564A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 03:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79CD8FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 03:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so2925310wwc.31 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:06:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Iuz5YniB85IARKXM2+q17L7ZAtX02uybN4JojeeYhcY=; b=fn2Ji2DbiSW3+Y6zwpSvPemAUztMiysDU3sH70oVbG5CjTl/5pV2ojKkLyeVG9HDVr CyttS+8u6VLgcbG6Q7O2S7k2LY7BkIa2irAc+eskLLqggD/nPHKfSJUDgjRpI+2+RarG vdpChbR/uvzaCwu7Y3RKSNXglddqAV5j60MzE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=brBL9T8m+5NVxQrpVaNGazXaA1Edxn3JCZxm8daAw2HbGMpDd2K/QECXIcV5GRJveC VPJyNLJ6m0QKPbEKdwDHD7j1WAJdfl3OJSfhd/EyhgUFipFgBUV6JgzrR5xLgP0beNsP RaqyHKQjPeH58Jnt7no8hbV8qzkaNVE0y69hs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.13.17 with SMTP id a17mr8979604wea.46.1285297574549; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.3.136 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:06:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100924024856.GB19697@guilt.hydra> References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100924003120.GA19235@guilt.hydra> <4C9BF868.9000805@gmail.com> <20100924024856.GB19697@guilt.hydra> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:06:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 03:06:16 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:07:28PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Glen Barber w= rote: >> > On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: >> >>> >> >>> If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, >> >>> lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and >> >>> vim-like (among other things ;-). >> >> >> >> Why is "written in C" considered such a great benefit by the Scrotwm >> >> developer(s)? =A0Earlier today, I read this on the site: >> >> >> >> =A0 =A0 "On the other hand xmonad has great defaults, key bindings an= d >> >> =A0 =A0 xinerama support but is crippled by not being written in C." >> >> >> >> hahahahahahaha! >> >> >> What's up with that? =A0How does Haskell "cripple" xmonad? >> >> >> >> In the end, you need not take yourself so seriously. =A0The thread was >> generic enough to allow for some rhetorical flourish. I suggested >> something . . . pointed out that is written in C (as did the homepage) >> . . . =A0AND you concluded some sort of insult; not my problem. >> >> Do you need a rim-shot for every joke? > > 1. Who said I took insult? =A0You assume too much. > > 2. That was not a very clever joke, anyway. =A0Where's the punchline? > > 3. That doesn't answer my question about the Scrotwm page. > > Even *I* am not so socially stunted as to think a comment like that on > the Scrotwm site would not raise some eyebrows. > Some? sure. In the end, scrotwm is a simple wm that allows the "gui-apprehensive-type" folk a nice CLI in X. That's all I was suggesting. "Shave and a haircut" . . . Chad? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 08:08:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA75106564A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out9.libero.it (cp-out9.libero.it [212.52.84.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D73F8FC14 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.54.64) by cp-out9.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4C9878AD00845639 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:08:26 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8O88Ngn017264 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:08:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4C9C5C77.4020608@netfence.it> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:08:23 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100917 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <4C9B03DB.6000806@netfence.it> <201009231004.21559.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <201009231004.21559.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.1.2.13 Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:08:28 -0000 On 09/23/10 11:04, Mike Clarke wrote: > That's very similar to my experience too but I'm getting the feeling > that I might have to move over to KDE4 before much longer due to > reduced KDE3 support with some of the apps: Same here. I delayed trying KDE4 since my old box was too old; as soon as I got a new one, I tried it. I too fear I'll have to move on sooner or later, the last bug being Kuickshow not working with EXA acceleration (which is the only one supported by my new GPU's driver). However, after trying KDE4, I think I'll start looking into Gnome or XFCE or whatever, before taking a decision. I really hope KDE4 will improve in the meanwhile, so maybe I can check it out again. BTW, one thing I absolutely won't live with is the lack of keyboard shortcuts: in KDE3 I run plain Konsole with "Windows-K" and with "Windows-R" I start a root console. This doesn't seem to be possible on KDE4, and no, a plasmoid on the desktop with a session menu is NOT the same thing. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 08:15:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9072B106566B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out9.libero.it (cp-out9.libero.it [212.52.84.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E21E8FC16 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.54.64) by cp-out9.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4C9878AD0084B0F0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:15:55 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8O8FqXR018726 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:15:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4C9C5E38.4030205@netfence.it> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:15:52 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100917 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <4C9B03DB.6000806@netfence.it> <201009231004.21559.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.1.2.13 Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:15:56 -0000 On 09/23/10 18:22, Adam Vande More wrote: > If you tried on KDE 4.1, 4.2, then yes things have improved a lot. 4.3 was > pretty big update in terms of stability, and 4.4 has been far more solid > than not. I tried 4.5.1 on 8.1/i386 with every port updated, on a 4-core AMD CPU with a Radeon HD 4200: _ base components continuosly crash; _ there were severe rendering problems (i.e. black areas sometimes instead of icons, windows not updating when moved, ecc...); _ I possibly had driver problems, with some accelerations not working (could not enable it in the system settings); _ and everything was not just slow, but *SLOW*; _ it messed so much with my hardware, that I could not switch back to KDE3 without a reboot (simply restarting the X server was not enough). I do not hold by breath for burning windows, rotating desktops or other fancy effects, but the system was plainly unusable. So, I appreciate the nice work, but I'll wait for some new version. If some developer needs some info or wants me to do some test, I still have everything installed, so I'll gladly help. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 08:16:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70161065672 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:16:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out7.libero.it (cp-out7.libero.it [212.52.84.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9828FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.54.64) by cp-out7.libero.it (8.5.107) id 4C9778C300875745 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:16:47 +0200 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o8O8Gjj4018895 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:16:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4C9C5E6D.8090106@netfence.it> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:16:45 +0200 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100917 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923083603.GA12869@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20100923084646.GA3644@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20100923084646.GA3644@current.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.1.2.13 Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:16:49 -0000 On 09/23/10 10:46, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Thursday, September 23, 2010 a las 09:36:03AM +0100, Frank Shute escribió: > >> My belief is that people who are comfortable with Gnome/KDE are people >> who are familiar with working in a GUI such as Windows® and haven't >> come from the commandline. So, I am an exception. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 11:52:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06D91065672 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849E38FC14 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so2962756iwn.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:52:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0vVsou0ALG5ro5GAEvswYbu4bIImVWnkrWHuAjBv/Yc=; b=rHlq7RG3jEuNglk9LfOAKVU28Myq4QMDgjGjoWhQM3s7wU++NseeNA0aaKLtgudTlr QgIhvGGEY4LQqsqyNI1xFOlsGulFzlgOhE+Jeye6DybSbjW9/Yxf09SeZtIqvJ2v6Szn 677EbMcPl2X9UCEm5CEhCuBQ2mt1pwf+mhsa0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DQb0MimvfpkHF0BJtUWHbVsTHCztDMHkCjmdicegGi4Yo+Njakx2bOjZOg0q0kAZcq MFIoBiyhn2sGDRoQgYW3f+bxD2WGD8wi1mpywUIkkUzHtisONmBdEBopl2QFkI+LIdAc dP7uliZsoIC+WfFo9wdj+f5G4w1eVTeofIkL8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.11.130 with SMTP id t2mr3648989ibt.154.1285329157654; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.190.129 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:52:37 +0200 Message-ID: From: Andy Wodfer To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Trouble enabling GD in php/apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:52:38 -0000 I'm running FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE. I can't get GD enabled. I have installed latestes php5 from ports aswell as php5-extensions and enabled GD on the option screen: cd /usr/ports/lang/php5 make deinstall make clean make rmconfig make install clean cd /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions make deinstall make clean make rmconfig make install clean I'm running the latest Apache 2.2.x version and GD 2.0.35. I'm currently doing a portupgrade -a to see if that helps, but I think not. What's the correct way of getting GD to work on Ie. a webshop (opencart)? Thanks for all help! Cheers, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 11:55:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BFF106566B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F7A8FC19 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so1134891gxk.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:55:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2jBM3rWqusp2eEjIc7UUr88Hgis374fNb5esebGT+xM=; b=vQUL1zNL0KCAS74fgDNIGFfd/hU9gIehlDjmJtN6jRpsuAbZbVS+I9hCIl/GgXFxAe w56BzwsU3QaYlzKJNOc0yFV73/CZZ5BD/Ez2ssCW3EscveKgTXNgmJOwgdwFjXrbIO3X 6Rn5rCIoa9Aoyw8DT/ZLZAM138G5ugDnsV+S8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eOTGmoVu1zAF2L9DuXoWvWs6Uzf0AIHOwAhPAKpU/Rita8aHyxPxImy1JDZxIClGAE SUhlVh8DcN6TA559xlOO6/QfrpcDhsMpKq/3qlJr5NCV6mU1PMx0kLcizFf4ccEBEw4h 82PREQTJ28vQ9TSbqXmXznCa8dMaOvMKQxYtY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.235.9 with SMTP id i9mr3617656anh.218.1285329311742; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.190.129 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:55:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100919161304.4851.qmail@dusk.parklogic.com> References: <20100919161304.4851.qmail@dusk.parklogic.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:55:11 +0200 Message-ID: From: Andy Wodfer To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Problem adding 1TB SATA disk to system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:55:12 -0000 On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:13 PM, freebsd-questions < freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > Dear Sir/Madam, > > Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending it > to. > For more information on our business please click on the following link: > Click here for our website > We look forward to your continued business in the future. > > Regards, > Webmaster > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 11:55:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA8D106566B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8ECA8FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gx0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 8so1134891gxk.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:55:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=j9/GF4MS47noB+rP/uuDk7Js/U2ObD94YddyIXEwdyY=; b=F5duBVDFBhnA8gIZURWj4v9Fvt0X0I5G2E8JfGjW4gavvzMmSF3WWTFSaoT1JUbeSS FNDRU0qq6iHTOnVmsqNXMbV9fVfpUw8djPk0b9t7c6bPBACAom1JuT0qKbqcldTeTj2J A3cMc9iW06LriR58FlqAEKC+kIR12tcY/cFWY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WZWHdkPhwcki7ZV672U7DlaR9u2MSPeESxKhpPnTt7M560/oj9zHz80VHEiJmfYz7G r5ZToEwUVjkFAS0qYVyWl0sb17p4zx6Xm8yYlr0SzruOxCLSGWuhlii98iKNJkJi1bPf 0jPxlxW+GZ6B7ElC0PQGgx0yEknIr8wdKTJ7g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.235.9 with SMTP id i9mr3618048anh.218.1285329326658; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.190.129 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 04:55:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:55:26 +0200 Message-ID: From: Andy Wodfer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Problem adding 1TB SATA disk to system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:55:27 -0000 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Michael Powell wrote: > Andy Wodfer wrote: > > > I'm running FreeBSD 8.0 release (will upgrade to 8.1 STABLE tonight). > > However, I'm having big problems adding a new harddrive to the system. I > > want a separate 1TB SATA installed to recover backup files on, but when I > > add it I only get error messages: > > > > dmesg: > > > > ad2: 953869MB at ata1-master SATA300 > > GEOM: ad2: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. > > GEOM: ad2: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. > > GEOM: ufsid/4c80e66f50f43e15: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. > > GEOM: ufsid/4c80e66f50f43e15: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. > > > > I've tried label and fdisk, but I can't get it to work. > > > [snip] > > I do not believe you can utilize fdisk and label for this. Since it appears > there may be a possibility of a garbage MBR present this will wipe it: > > Boot a LiveFS CD, then at a root prompt do: > > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 and: > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adx oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 > > where x equals your drive number. This will zero out any old MBR. > > You will need to set this up with gpart instead of fdisk. More details in > man gpart and possibly glabel. The devil is in the details, but this may be > enough to get you pointed down the road. > I couldn't get it to work. My solution was to remove the 1TB drive and install 2x500GB drives in a small RAID instead. Made life so much easier. :-) Cheers, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 12:43:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0E11065674 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@reiteration.net) Received: from lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net (lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B8E8FC15 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from potato.growveg.org ([62.49.247.163]) by lon1-post-1.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Oz7cE-0001aB-X3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:43:02 +0000 Message-ID: <4C9C9CC1.6090404@reiteration.net> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:42:41 +0100 From: John User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 ThunderBrowse/3.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Trouble enabling GD in php/apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:43:03 -0000 On 24/09/2010 12:52, Andy Wodfer wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE. > > I can't get GD enabled. I have installed latestes php5 from ports aswell as > php5-extensions and enabled GD on the option screen: > > cd /usr/ports/lang/php5 > make deinstall > make clean > make rmconfig > make install clean > > cd /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions > make deinstall > make clean > make rmconfig > make install clean > > I'm running the latest Apache 2.2.x version and GD 2.0.35. > > I'm currently doing a portupgrade -a to see if that helps, but I think not. > > What's the correct way of getting GD to work on Ie. a webshop (opencart)? It seems that php5-extensions isn't installing properly. I had to install a new server and was surprised the extensions never loaded. However I knew from other installations that for example the gd extension should be in extensions.ini - I looked in there and it was absent. So what I had to do is to search for it. Before I did that, I had to run locate.updatedb as root. This showed gd.so to be in /usr/local/ports/graphics/php5-gd/work/php-5.3.3/ext/gd/modules/gd.so I copied that into /usr/local/lib/php/20090626/ and edited /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini with a line of extension=gd.so I had to do this with everything selected in php5-extensions, and then restart the webserver. FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE #1: Wed Sep 8 10:21:27 BST 2010 and last csup for ports was on the 23rd from cvsup.uk.freebsd.org -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 13:02:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF67106564A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7460B8FC14 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so3024029iwn.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 06:02:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aqMnX+/N1e921cV5QqmIQR04hjP+6yUMiTSzQMXWGJg=; b=PK89iQQk7o9cu+pZnucp9GWwbJ6ohoXsuQGh4hLhHA0jykjEPu3ctn76fSAImj6/b4 Wx0Eqep62y9jsxQASk6juv+0t2+hkM9R3GzbrYWS0rYpsphL7F5+TY13m4caf/FryoXw kV1VoyaUmEwJYr0iEy3EBz2hGYWYPAPOVrIck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lQ4g57fSCZsPPXc+gr61MHODxKrAPOwTB1Cs1MZLTHpAbFP+xDT8S8rJoCxXJhsDSU OPWd5CCbA/3SiFZADWigV59eSOIWuL/jLzn2ETD5cUSlXEgPCp5z/kHQYpfxIDvkp+i+ tZ4gzylpyrd30uYYkO9e1FvgDWl4HbPdDcTRU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.149.80 with SMTP id s16mr3813016ibv.81.1285333360930; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 06:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.190.129 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 06:02:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C9C9CC1.6090404@reiteration.net> References: <4C9C9CC1.6090404@reiteration.net> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:02:40 +0200 Message-ID: From: Andy Wodfer To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Trouble enabling GD in php/apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:02:41 -0000 > > [snip] > I had to install a new server and was surprised the extensions never > loaded. However I knew from other installations that for example the gd > extension should be in extensions.ini - I looked in there and it was > absent. So what I had to do is to search for it. Before I did that, I > had to run locate.updatedb as root. This showed gd.so to be in > /usr/local/ports/graphics/php5-gd/work/php-5.3.3/ext/gd/modules/gd.so > > I copied that into /usr/local/lib/php/20090626/ and edited > /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini with a line of extension=gd.so > > I had to do this with everything selected in php5-extensions, and then > restart the webserver. > Hi John, thanks for your input. In my case both extension.ini (gd.so line) and gd.so in the /usr/local/lib/php/20090626 are present. Any other ideas? cheers, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 13:54:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E08B1065670 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:54:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leif.walsh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44BB8FC0C for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so1396251qyk.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 06:54:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rfgde9ZM1eDwFHhPRHHZVuY6ZRI4njKxQuyIzetG2Zk=; b=SUoRUL0wka/tZjLxRnY+dL1s/3Bz2Jr03Kc4/f0GK9xJp8yQsLFUWhlvXzMc94vqwM OH5k7qaDDhsIbP3OKNgfKM8CuK5hAYwrC1m2jNCB3v7RXBcdLT8n6rfDDKENsBf3jRX1 tKtTM2h8cPrU+LTgUjZXkV6svZtarlpZ9ZhSg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pPazE72bFh4dk/EZ7PQDrq5cjUFwy/fZ6tBtf3drmqPmexymg7k9k/b1hvo442uU4y sekmYFSjZpGLkxQhlToj2qNEHse4ddXZF3lzsepyxK6rtKSUqlFVhRrA83nBQc94bNCl jnsVZ0PoZuOKQ7zqFTXnV/afZePneQGYMYT5o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.224.149 with SMTP id io21mr2526037qcb.160.1285336497924; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 06:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.79.193 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 06:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.79.193 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 06:54:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:54:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: Leif Walsh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: lagg trouble X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:54:59 -0000 I have the following in /boot/loader.conf: if_iwn_load="YES" iwn5000fw_load="YES" wlan_wep_load="YES" wlan_ccmp_load="YES" wlan_tkip_load="YES" and the following in /etc/rc.conf: ifconfig_em0="up" ifconfig_iwn0="ether 00:1f:16:0c:46:82" wlans_iwn0="wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0="WPA" cloned_interfaces="lagg0" ifconfig_lagg0="laggproto failover laggport em0 laggport wlan0 DHCP" On boot, lagg0 gets created and correctly includes em0 and wlan0 as laggports. Dhcp starts on lagg0, but if I ping a hostname, I get a timeout, and if I ping an ip address, I get send failed, something like no room in buffer (not on that comp now). If I do a netif restart, it brings back eth0 and lagg0, but lagg0 doesn't include wlan0, which seems to get started later (and not by netif? The output says it stops lo, em, iwn, lagg, tun, ipfw, and wlan, but only starts lo, em, iwn, and lagg, and directly after, ifconfig shows everything up, just lagg0 not using wlan0). If I do a dhclient wlan0 (assuming wpa_supplicant finds something it likes), I get a working network connection, but not if I manually patch it through lagg0 through lagg0. Is there a way to ensure that wlan gets up before lagg? Why would I get that buffer error through lagg? Also, if I have to switch wireless routers and use wpa_cli, can I get dhclient to notice and automatically request a new ip? -- Cheers, Leif From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 13:58:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678AD1065672 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:58:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from comp.john@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6FE8FC1F for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb33 with SMTP id 33so3545028wyb.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 06:58:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=j7irgM5tqt1GoEPyxE1bBlSBrK0pZ4dhUwhmXDUXVhY=; b=YcgKWN9TmVT0XxF0Rtaz6pnRV90h96QdI8dPFR+luuA5ykBf4Jy0WxxELzNzx4CKze ATKoeOZrOUvyU6WQO9i2+W3JXsIvKvFsuy3BBUyThdAGfXMxRZYdr/5LzatpTHOK7alv 6gRU2ZG1m9+czUY30PtUoxFM3XOTK5SgO28ME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=GZocEWQ0zOVNAAG38QFvSPuj91oTpeMOcCRnuQoy5nZ6+2lNPYUu13hNmyqFl1ChVZ v75ApsjGP6G6dmsA5G6wwPMGy/l12nlECUHBYJF6xSKp6cahKzkSYo6OzHrC5jMtVFTo O24iQMrCQc8fm3sShMOSBNcNkxdvzyFXdfa6k= Received: by 10.227.157.17 with SMTP id z17mr2834539wbw.122.1285335100775; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from potato (potato.growveg.org [62.49.247.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o15sm1328358wer.15.2010.09.24.06.31.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 24 Sep 2010 06:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:31:15 +0100 From: John To: Andy Wodfer Message-ID: <20100924133115.GA41697@potato> References: <4C9C9CC1.6090404@reiteration.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Trouble enabling GD in php/apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:58:06 -0000 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 03:02:40PM +0200, Andy Wodfer wrote: > > > > [snip] > > I had to install a new server and was surprised the extensions never > > loaded. However I knew from other installations that for example the gd > > extension should be in extensions.ini - I looked in there and it was > > absent. So what I had to do is to search for it. Before I did that, I > > had to run locate.updatedb as root. This showed gd.so to be in > > /usr/local/ports/graphics/php5-gd/work/php-5.3.3/ext/gd/modules/gd.so > > > > I copied that into /usr/local/lib/php/20090626/ and edited > > /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini with a line of extension=gd.so > > > > I had to do this with everything selected in php5-extensions, and then > > restart the webserver. > > > > Hi John, > thanks for your input. In my case both extension.ini (gd.so line) and gd.so > in the /usr/local/lib/php/20090626 are present. > > Any other ideas? how bizarre. Does phpinfo() show gd? Sorry for the simple question, but it is inportant ;) -- John - comp dot john at googlemail dot com OpenBSD firewall | FreeBSD desktop | Ubuntu Karmic laptop GPG: 0xF08A33C5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 14:47:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63451106566C for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tmseck@netcologne.de) Received: from smtp6.netcologne.de (smtp6.netcologne.de [194.8.194.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298F98FC14 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wcfields.tmseck.homedns.org (xdsl-89-0-91-239.netcologne.de [89.0.91.239]) by smtp6.netcologne.de (Postfix) with SMTP id D7ABF2A0A31 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:28:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 46113 invoked by uid 1001); 24 Sep 2010 14:28:02 -0000 Date: 24 Sep 2010 14:28:02 -0000 Message-ID: <20100924142802.46112.qmail@wcfields.tmseck.homedns.org> From: tmseck-lists@netcologne.de (Thomas-Martin Seck) To: Ed Flecko In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions X-Attribution: tms Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Will FBSD Squid "port" create squid user and group? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:47:29 -0000 * Ed Flecko [gmane.os.freebsd.questions]: > Hi folks, > I guess this is a two-faceted question: > > 1.) If I install Squid from a "port", will in create the recommended > squid user and group for me, or will I need to pre-create a squid user > and group prior to Squid running? Yes. The code that manages this is in www/squid/files/pkg-install.in. The uid/gid of the user/group that the port/pacage will add is hardwired to 100 whereas the name of the actual user/group can be overridden when you build the port from source. Use SQUID_UID=foo SQUID_GID=bar in your make(1) environment if you intend to do this. If you install the pre-built package via pkg_add, user and group "squid" with uid 100 will be added unless a user/group with this name already exists. > I like the idea of modifying > SQUID_CONFIGURE_ARGS in the squid port Makefile to customize the > software before I compile and install it, but if it doesn't create the > user and group for you...what advantage do you gain to install from a > port -vs- downloading the tarball and building from source? The port tries to ensure that Squid complies with the FreeBSD file system hierarchy standards and it installs more helpers than what you would normally get when you install Squid from the distribution tarball. Just have a Look at the definition of the CONFIGURE_ARGS make macro in the port's Makefile to see which options the port enables by default. As a bonus you get a dialog(1) based configuration dialog for the fancier options. A port is basically a wrapper that tries to automate everything you would otherwise need to do manually when you install directly from source. > 2.) "As a general rule", when you install software that needs a > special user/group, will those users/groups be created when you > install from ports, or only from packages? Pre-build package and installation from port should behave the same in this respect. Everything else is a bug. Best regards, -- Thomas-Martin Seck current maintainer of www/squid{,30,31} From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 14:54:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4108A1065670 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC99D8FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so2639555bwz.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 07:54:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qZN2w/bXzAqmdo/Di+AbPUCssWbVISjcUYSr8veFKMo=; b=rd3ZI9zZt5ddanDCQ3RtFX+VyhjoEdvjrjGNSA8QNaOkUHW1wQwdnARXcW6wbVeb5o Mf4qGnSahTWDy8FYA/ue01IoVtccn6TCsIPRNxZ36KWzsCxd8xgNH0Of8MGJiAeXFRnA wu7d5jRY3Wcuz+lAJ6rrOGHSsSh6rEKWdpoCs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=hRbnSIX9deL6iL3htDfABxdERYL91egcrVXjlnrWC44k4z2h43qJhq9rM4Zupv3O4j N+sl8WXZsesCgFxJH1AntNmvNZbD4P2vdaepC3dozoXnXy3enX94drbjeEO3ZsIDkMyi /vmXzOyB5+i5xqqfG1CvYFDBB2awYKWblKdTA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.56.143 with SMTP id y15mr1991662bkg.198.1285340076531; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 07:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.74.103 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 07:54:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <90e6ba4883cb50e1500490c7b441@google.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:54:36 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lHAOtwblGrWtkRYqqgYSqq41n-4 Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Media Packages Vs. Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:54:38 -0000 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Adam Vande More wr= ote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:41 AM, wrote: >> >> =A0Is it possible to take a port, make a package of it and put it in the >> packages directory of my own media? > > Sure it's easy.=A0 When build a port you can issue a make package command= , or > you can use pkg_create to create packages from installed ported.=A0 A com= mon > approach to this is build all your updates in a jail, make packages of th= em, > then delete package from the host and install the newly built ones from t= he > jail.=A0 Very small, if any downtime.=A0 You can use the jail to create p= kg's > for a custom repository too. I've created the package and copied it to the networked media. How do I edit the INDEX file so that it knows how to get the file? --=20 Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 16:03:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0696A106566B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:03:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tg@gmplib.org) Received: from shell.gmplib.org (gmplib-02.nada.kth.se [130.237.222.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5318FC17 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by shell.gmplib.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4BB2F1072; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:03:06 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Torbjorn Granlund Sender: tg@gmplib.org Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:03:06 +0200 Message-ID: <867hibxh6t.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Mount order for ZFS, jails, and nullfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:03:09 -0000 In jails, I'd like a local ZFS /, a read-only nullfs-mounted /usr, and a local /usr/local. (I'd also have read-only nullfs-mounted /bin, /lib, /libexec, but let's forget about that for now.) This way, I can upgrade the master /usr once, in one place, and have all jails inherit it. And my dear jail inmates can install anything in /usr/local (such as their favourite packages/ports). I.e., things should look like this: /myjail/ zfs /myjail/usr nullfs ro /myjail/usr/local zfs There is no problem to make this happen by issuing a handful of commands manually after boot, but I cannot seem to get it to work automatically, with existing boot mechanism. The problem is that the mount of /usr will be attempted before ZFS has mounted /myjail, the jail's root. ZFS maintains its own mount table. It is possible to disable the automated mounting in ZFS by specifying the pseudo mountpoint "legacy", and then--according to the FreeBSD manual--mount it with mount(8). Unfortunately, FreeBSD's mount seems unable to perform mounts of ZFS volumes. How can I achieve the result I want after a reboot? (The reply "use ezjail!" is not the right one. :-) It does not do what I want to do. I dislike its symlink forest, and that it creates just one ZFS filesystem for the entire jail.) --=20 Torbj=F6rn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 16:03:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5918F106566C for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f200.google.com (mail-qy0-f200.google.com [209.85.216.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDA08FC1C for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk2 with SMTP id 2so3383625qyk.7 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:03:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.198.130 with SMTP id eo2mr1227686vcb.16.1285344200984; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:03:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <90e6ba53ac44838cef0491038428@google.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:03:20 +0000 From: vrwmiller@gmail.com To: Adam Vande More , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Re: Media Packages Vs. Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:03:22 -0000 On Sep 24, 2010 10:54am, Rick Miller wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Adam Vande More amvandemore@gmail.com> > wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:41 AM, vrwmiller@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Is it possible to take a port, make a package of it and put it in the > >> packages directory of my own media? > > > > Sure it's easy. When build a port you can issue a make package command, > or > > you can use pkg_create to create packages from installed ported. A > common > > approach to this is build all your updates in a jail, make packages of > them, > > then delete package from the host and install the newly built ones from > the > > jail. Very small, if any downtime. You can use the jail to create pkg's > > for a custom repository too. > I've created the package and copied it to the networked media. How do > I edit the INDEX file so that it knows how to get the file? I did figure out one way to get this to work. I copied the entry for the port from the ports index file into the packages index file and it worked. Whether or not it's an appropriate way, I am unsure. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 16:11:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B52106566C for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:11:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7618FC15 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 97-126-31-96.tukw.qwest.net ([97.126.31.96] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzAjn-0002zn-Un for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:03:05 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:11:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:11:42 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100924161142.GA10790@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100923182839.GC14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100923190431.GD14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:11:48 -0000 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: > >On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Chip Camden wrote: > >> Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: > >> > >> I'm not too sure what you're asking "certain window should be moved by > >> default to specific workspaces." Since you read the man page I'm > >> guessing you're not talking about changing which xterm is in focus. > >> Focus moves by defualt to each new tem that you open > >> (alt-shift-return). > >> > >> Maybe www.scrotwm.org will help. > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > Nope. =A0The wiki doesn't present anything either. > > > > What I mean is for example when I launch Firefox, I want it to go to > > workspace 3. =A0When I launch gimp, I want it on workspace 7. =A0I can = easily > > specify that in xmonad, using either the window class or window title. = =A0I > > don't want to have to move all these windows where I want them every ti= me > > I log in. > > >=20 > Ah . . . I see. I'm not aware af that being a feature in scrotwm. The > only thing I can suggest is to join the forum and ask. Like I said, > scrotwm actively maintained and the devs will (likely) respond > quickly. As far as what they say, suggestions are welcome, but they > have to be persuaded. >=20 > Best of luck. >=20 > -Neal Discussion on the scrotwm forum confirms that this capability does not exist in scrotwm. They logged a feature request on my behalf. That's reason enough for me to stick with xmonad, unless a compelling counter-argument in favor of scrotwm emerges. So far, I haven't seen one. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMnM2+AAoJEIpckszW26+RIRgH/16Tw5R0seb30TjjBkqSWekB kZsuZfAAUC8G7VcSO4vIfGrGG7ulIKOiHW/hZphdSvalLDOzFL1f9OfGlcOJmDgR 6nlcQlCbltxtlM+B7Rolec8OL0nIrrduvMSEOxj+i9WSaOEi6Hnl0m3sJP3iev5p OWmmnkfGcJBJCZk7a1LbOzSXjsLx4+nCEOLwPM/AnWIbcUf00GvKPUwz+vbqwoYj mEEs7T/pMwWA4guMyN6MHXET2LJ+vqDMqh2+85cuPGBmz2wHDH9pDUHNCGSUOc3f NdO9W4oIAIKPq0v91WkPPnVkHEhRMCPDibkDDHEQVbezZPJp0rHzrXliXxm3cwA= =X1mu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 16:18:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F892106566B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014638FC0C for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 97-126-31-96.tukw.qwest.net ([97.126.31.96] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzAqX-0004g3-AH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:10:02 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:18:39 -0700 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:18:39 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100924161839.GB10790@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> <20100923152023.GA14903@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100924003120.GA19235@guilt.hydra> <4C9BF868.9000805@gmail.com> <20100924024856.GB19697@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:18:45 -0000 --IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:07:28PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Glen Barber = wrote: > >> > On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > >> >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, > >> >>> lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and > >> >>> vim-like (among other things ;-). > >> >> > >> >> Why is "written in C" considered such a great benefit by the Scrotwm > >> >> developer(s)? =A0Earlier today, I read this on the site: > >> >> > >> >> =A0 =A0 "On the other hand xmonad has great defaults, key bindings = and > >> >> =A0 =A0 xinerama support but is crippled by not being written in C." > >> >> > >> > >> hahahahahahaha! > >> > >> >> What's up with that? =A0How does Haskell "cripple" xmonad? > >> >> > >> > >> In the end, you need not take yourself so seriously. =A0The thread was > >> generic enough to allow for some rhetorical flourish. I suggested > >> something . . . pointed out that is written in C (as did the homepage) > >> . . . =A0AND you concluded some sort of insult; not my problem. > >> > >> Do you need a rim-shot for every joke? > > > > 1. Who said I took insult? =A0You assume too much. > > > > 2. That was not a very clever joke, anyway. =A0Where's the punchline? > > > > 3. That doesn't answer my question about the Scrotwm page. > > > > Even *I* am not so socially stunted as to think a comment like that on > > the Scrotwm site would not raise some eyebrows. > > >=20 > Some? sure. >=20 > In the end, scrotwm is a simple wm that allows the > "gui-apprehensive-type" folk a nice CLI in X. That's all I was > suggesting. >=20 > "Shave and a haircut" . . . Chad? I don't think anyone was attacking you or your suggestion, Neal. I like what I see in scrotwm: copyfree license, lean approach, keyboard-centricity, minimalism. All good. It just doesn't have anything to pull me away from xmonad yet. Hope they keep up the good work. Regards, Chip --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMnM9fAAoJEIpckszW26+Ryw0IAKo9g3kz42vKhPBSy0ez3m1v yGz1h+2+jXLuetrrel3WkFt+vve53bXRi5Gt7jXUtCauKd7paVVGVwN68e6ZQ8nr meD+I28PPG4pESeCld+BtBYjPMKBXXBvS76rl4R7oUZW7UDP+PsU9vFNlpfSsHOC wHfx5wpHB3Ng6pkcvKNNmFikisu4zW2o6DMq8LcLuC5Qrbw4+XcgAiGBN4rAU5WZ ccIcoiPQQAvJMprcrRshyJzFUrs60yqmdAvVKUR/Suew9fB9sTxVD3jDN/WRUdK1 5+WD3qM54BBsnkUZ1+SoRrR8vxjBVvEzFtlMd4wg/saEmw8KbHWIF9CJ/AcCWfI= =IG7w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IiVenqGWf+H9Y6IX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 16:39:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02239106566B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EE28FC15 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so1607389qyk.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:39:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.67.195 with SMTP id s3mr2654288qai.179.1285346369784; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.96.148 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:39:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.203.61.91] In-Reply-To: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:39:29 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Jorge Biquez Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:39:31 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Jorge Biquez wrote: > I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what > path to follow? KDE? any other? Using fluxbox here for ages (used olvwm, ctwm, and fvwm[2] before. It's low overhead, very low cpu/disk/memory footprint, very fast and reasonabley easy to configure and customize. IMHO, KDE & Gnome are too heavyweight, but that's really a matter of taste (and adequate hardware). > Jorge Biquez Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 17:04:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A76106564A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A178FC13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so2767201bwz.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:04:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=g4PCdrnjrm6tN81DAJUbnGelA02gktF9G5qqjjmmfDw=; b=hNjbIzaRdCWnj9asItsKxvjFsvZWtQWu8TOQjmeY3uHUDT72m/Sx46yGduXciq2Gqo 9+UjmaYSNh0Qn1V64NXd0ITaiTb5pNNpJZxRD5owx+e3oLwktF7VgqX7o0HTsuRZ9oaE vDdYTAW9bOEL1VOGXbost9yPEFqwzv4RVCwdw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fN8129BbKHaoK3TwgSJPN/SOXUvil6QyBSHUZmTFyoX9zLolWT/1r7qlkGSk3cKyL3 gEGCV+mp78FeFuQXWCC6DZCqJT6DiSfDMpOnB9FwD7XD3HViicjA0JWbUfQjmXLKV758 2iAQoMQcf+fGdMNOY1ITr+5RPTxaFConr/COI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.177.79 with SMTP id bh15mr2265219bkb.121.1285347846631; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.97.208 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:04:06 +0200 Message-ID: From: David DEMELIER To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Little question about device driver name X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:04:08 -0000 Hi folks, I just wonder why if_bridge(4) is prefixed by if_ for device name. Every other device name like lagg(4), gif(4) are not prefixed with this same one. Is there any reason that bridge is prefixed with it ? (I don't know if there is other device like that, but what I saw in conf/NOTES seems not) Cheers, -- Demelier David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 17:11:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA57E106566B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pldrouin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E66E8FC16 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz15 with SMTP id 15so2773091bwz.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:11:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6E65GDs8mVX+4vZ0CM6sW8KzygBgNYZ8sPaaT5itcHY=; b=XGpIaK1OvGqc9SyCGK+7YvmPwjLEDsqidQLMq4iuqnFuYUN167Nso5p/Ie0tBxJjP/ mDsL7EIVF+iPykhxCVfXn8lVCDMC536zPXCxtdatwU7qNjdH9pW8LMqN6sjBnE6zFmfH tvI+TQdTK7J74yhjgX0f1HnXevYxXvcIZ/rKw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=GoDPGpLxQtKk2e2FtDz1bCQLviWjF1YPa6bFMuJ6CBINRO6owBqqsCL8zXt2gnECjh nL11fdIHBngXG+625eY5zvevmF3VgBM2p895Um0WAJGBgfQt0cIhd2XuDoy64csvFBPC q0/BcuSGLw2E4Ln9Ml7K7Gi74XClNbkVMsb10= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.177.79 with SMTP id bh15mr2250459bkb.121.1285346931606; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.59.137 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:48:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:48:51 -0400 Message-ID: From: Pierre-Luc Drouin To: "C. P. Ghost" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:11:12 -0000 I love Fluxbox too for its lightweightness and configurability. If you find it too minimalistic, I think that XFCE can be a good compromise also since it runs quite fast compared to KDE and Gnome while having most of their functionalities. XFCE is also compatible with Compiz... On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:39 PM, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Jorge Biquez > wrote: > > I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on > what > > path to follow? KDE? any other? > > Using fluxbox here for ages (used olvwm, ctwm, and fvwm[2] before. It's low > overhead, very low cpu/disk/memory footprint, very fast and reasonabley > easy > to configure and customize. > > IMHO, KDE & Gnome are too heavyweight, but that's really a matter of taste > (and adequate hardware). > > > Jorge Biquez > > Regards, > -cpghost. > > -- > Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 17:44:29 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F06106564A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30758FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxn35 with SMTP id 35so1285113yxn.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:44:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iUZpRWutZkp8V4eQamRb0yvqmxFycZxbMBCzspnXyns=; b=CgKvBuhHKmxVAgWj6ghJV5FzOXX/RFTWakqmG0ctKXotPutqW8gHc+Y3z8b/sCT7vk 66kuhO9Qwc6RjN9+YVTEqTNY7XpWrWM4eXNWJ44+qcju5IylSbZov3kSDesAOMGO7rkN tq4CXveEBUZlxIyRNh5wBCLRteMGLx9EtnfLc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AcaMvFPNRnBOHF3YdEJ+C+nFRilSY5shJbCfE1A7SrTC9koJjtE7rnl0+ToTKCdeTk dyyaKmPyay8CG/rdfmsYsGfKfExviwaqTAA7GjR0K8Y4xseyXuwKxdMbeCEvJiufxXQ4 TYwDnI/wzJTOgksm9kaBqfSysNNpk88IgvP1Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.80.4 with SMTP id d4mr3151529agb.11.1285350267503; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.190.129 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:44:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100924133115.GA41697@potato> References: <4C9C9CC1.6090404@reiteration.net> <20100924133115.GA41697@potato> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:44:27 +0200 Message-ID: From: Andy Wodfer To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Trouble enabling GD in php/apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:44:29 -0000 > > [snip] > how bizarre. Does phpinfo() show gd? Sorry for the simple question, but > it is inportant ; No it doesn't. Here's the long output of phpinfo() PHP Version 5.3.3 System FreeBSD webserver.domain.no 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:48:17 UTC 2009 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Build Date Sep 24 2010 13:07:36 Configure Command './configure' '--with-layout=GNU' '--localstatedir=/var' '--with-config-file-scan-dir=/usr/local/etc/php' '--disable-all' '--enable-libxml' '--with-libxml-dir=/usr/local' '--with-pcre-regex=/usr/local' '--with-zlib-dir=/usr' '--program-prefix=' '--with-apxs2=/usr/local/sbin/apxs' '--with-regex=php' '--with-zend-vm=CALL' '--disable-ipv6' '--prefix=/usr/local' '--mandir=/usr/local/man' '--infodir=/usr/local/info/' '--build=i386-portbld-freebsd8.0' Server API Apache 2.0 Handler Virtual Directory Support disabled Configuration File (php.ini) Path /usr/local/etc Loaded Configuration File /usr/local/etc/php.ini Scan this dir for additional .ini files /usr/local/etc/php Additional .ini files parsed /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini PHP API 20090626 PHP Extension 20090626 Zend Extension 220090626 Zend Extension Build API220090626,NTS PHP Extension Build API20090626,NTS Debug Build no Thread Safety disabled Zend Memory Manager enabled Zend Multibyte Support disabled IPv6 Support disabled Registered PHP Streams php, file, glob, data, http, ftp, compress.bzip2, https, ftps, compress.zlib, zip Registered Stream Socket Transports tcp, udp, unix, udg, ssl, sslv3, sslv2, tls Registered Stream Filters string.rot13, string.toupper, string.tolower, string.strip_tags, convert.*, consumed, dechunk, convert.iconv.*, bzip2.*, zlib.* Suhosin logo This server is protected with the Suhosin Patch 0.9.10 Copyright (c) 2006-2007 Hardened-PHP Project Copyright (c) 2007-2009 SektionEins GmbH Zend logo This program makes use of the Zend Scripting Language Engine: Zend Engine v2.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2010 Zend Technologies PHP Credits Configuration apache2handler Apache Version Apache/2.2.13 (FreeBSD) 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If you did not receive a copy of the PHP license, or have any questions about PHP licensing, please contact license@php.net. /Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 17:49:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89517106566C for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:49:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjhjr0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F11C8FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so1284103gxk.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:49:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=UR4ZYkCCp4KyoglqX7hVdbBs0Up9wnCfJxlVCTqS6SM=; b=cXOpKyQbtDstaImkyzucn0w+UvVVLj7FFKQX3D/1Z8phspnbs3bdVpbTyubGvw/VT5 U96NaFTDys73VxhEkwz5QFW7tHdWVT++1XzyV55cRUqS96QXIE90v3ZBmyQ0X0+qpJ10 5X6pL4Q/ua3TcF+gP3DxmwKXg9Gri+mVt/VGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=abEQnmwHO4hsNbtIVVsoJNWLtX2OgwFoXTx7DX3pLcMPQUJu+GJiC23ci0XlQHiKeF xj+yugqCaet1jtkdr/IygCNtciLwznwkEb4zTcaXS3Ezzj7la4wsqZ0vPa5q/D7imkOQ mbL1XM2qukmwUb0rgk9kps5AFgSRxfxADacoI= Received: by 10.151.156.18 with SMTP id i18mr4991535ybo.315.1285350586532; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ip98-163-115-74.dc.dc.cox.net [98.163.115.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w3sm1265432ybi.7.2010.09.24.10.49.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:49:43 -0400 From: Bob Hall To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100924174943.GA4468@stainmore> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , FreeBSD Questions References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: Little question about device driver name X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:49:47 -0000 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 07:04:06PM +0200, David DEMELIER wrote: > Hi folks, > > I just wonder why if_bridge(4) is prefixed by if_ for device name. > Every other device name like lagg(4), gif(4) are not prefixed with > this same one. if_bridge was based on bridge. I assume that when the updated if_bridge was introduced, the earlier bridge was still available, so the author needed some way to distinguish his new module from the earlier module. Type "man bridge" and check the Authors section. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 18:04:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EBE1065672 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:04:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A7B8FC1C for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwd6 with SMTP id 6so1666998qwd.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:04:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=c3yaT4DYaMxvEIfqOb9fw/45u/NNecXvENN9mUjb9aY=; b=GzQKe7Xxldd93NXPA6fjQW61H4NNoPqHbnyF71gZ04KtEzmrT+nI3o7QPuGj12p8nP f38lSubM69PojH9ylP6KtXZUBzjxf0dwFyMNVRQiK0UFISNNzITwJXkrRrAqelg2hEp1 HKHw4u92K1ezmnuyxLM7ac35M1pUwh6GqtMcA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=MgIfbwwWsxX11Nb+3LDsZZR1PlVF7btSPSdOHKBB2ZbsFZJbMukz2cAvZ09obl1rEO YAs7Vq3McCsY8rvkqF4Uh/mr2GohedHwwsasspB2JTOHm4cAeb6ghg/NuMAgPrHDT2w0 dvZzvLIuZrnHpaqstuDXnX8xY5hsi+Ga3TGRo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.248.142 with SMTP id mg14mr2765696qcb.40.1285351467543; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.215.209 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:04:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:04:27 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Leif Walsh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux filesystems accessible from FreeBSD 8-stable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:04:28 -0000 On 23 September 2010 18:59, Leif Walsh wrote: > I can't seem to get a definitive answer on this from the internet, > there's a lot of conflicting information. > > I have some data drives formatted with ext4, which I'd like to access > from freebsd, preferably without totally reformatting because I don't > have much temp space for copying. Read-only would be fine, read-write > would be much preferred. > > Is this possible? Am I missing the big "ext4 drivers in > freebsd/fuse/something" sign? Does anyone happen to know if it's > possible to migrate an ext4 drive back to ext3, which it seems I can > access from bsd if I let it pretend the journal doesn't exist? > > -- > Cheers, > Leif > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Im not 100% sure (probably about 60% actually) but cant you mount ext4 as ext2? From what i vaguly remember there will be some limitations but its worth having a look From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 18:12:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D181106566B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tg@gmplib.org) Received: from shell.gmplib.org (gmplib-02.nada.kth.se [130.237.222.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADED8FC1A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by shell.gmplib.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 135E9108B; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:12:03 +0200 (CEST) To: krad References: <867hibxh6t.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> From: Torbjorn Granlund Sender: tg@gmplib.org Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:12:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: (krad's message of "Fri\, 24 Sep 2010 18\:56\:02 +0100") Message-ID: <8639szxb7x.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mount order for ZFS, jails, and nullfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:12:04 -0000 krad writes: use zfs mount/umount =20=20 How? The "zfs mount" command does not work anyting like the mount(8) command but for ZFS volumes. The "zfs mount" mounts a volume using its mountpoint property. But if that's set to "legacy", then zfs mount will hardly work, since it cannot take a mount point parameter. The real problem is how to make all types of mounts to be made in a top-to-bottom order. Even if 'zfs mount' would work like I think you assume it works, that would not help, as far as I can tell. --=20 Torbj=F6rn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 18:15:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191261065672 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:15:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E7F8FC20 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk7 with SMTP id 7so1332522qyk.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:15:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7kDljvth9mrzn99ao9PVKyspUnfNfBejlB7Chgzli/k=; b=Mp/hwE/seVYR1VacB1jpzyM4ymVeGZndvInmpnaVdzRKyD2CNFlBNQ3/spKuFbwPsR ZPz+9KNkwkiMQ1fB70wX3lVzeoRXjWorwXVnPZQfh/mD8/J6rETvWj5AI0Cu+TZ9ML5/ v7beRg314kHw32VmEbsMrnXuNAOq6M1045kIk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=PWLGPaT8x/795AON+B0wmWvGbOz3Z9tjOolWw96oDmuMaRxMr9B7bpkOwJNqoobcCE YdM66T68KxVCBNuZEP4sPdXBNx0fm48hNd01RPecA/UUDXSDXXXUFOtjDmaCe6xclem+ VUKx7oKrhushPvYxEMhol+/N3PINo2nLX0R6I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.248.142 with SMTP id mg14mr2754566qcb.40.1285350751576; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.215.209 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:52:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <867hibxh6t.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> References: <867hibxh6t.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:52:31 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Torbjorn Granlund Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mount order for ZFS, jails, and nullfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:15:43 -0000 On 24 September 2010 17:03, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: > In jails, I'd like a local ZFS /, a read-only nullfs-mounted /usr, and a > local /usr/local. (I'd also have read-only nullfs-mounted /bin, /lib, > /libexec, but let's forget about that for now.) > > This way, I can upgrade the master /usr once, in one place, and have all > jails inherit it. And my dear jail inmates can install anything in > /usr/local (such as their favourite packages/ports). > > I.e., things should look like this: > > /myjail/ zfs > /myjail/usr nullfs ro > /myjail/usr/local zfs > > There is no problem to make this happen by issuing a handful of commands > manually after boot, but I cannot seem to get it to work automatically, > with existing boot mechanism. The problem is that the mount of /usr > will be attempted before ZFS has mounted /myjail, the jail's root. > > ZFS maintains its own mount table. It is possible to disable the > automated mounting in ZFS by specifying the pseudo mountpoint "legacy", > and then--according to the FreeBSD manual--mount it with mount(8). > Unfortunately, FreeBSD's mount seems unable to perform mounts of ZFS > volumes. > > How can I achieve the result I want after a reboot? > > > (The reply "use ezjail!" is not the right one. :-) It does not do what > I want to do. I dislike its symlink forest, and that it creates just > one ZFS filesystem for the entire jail.) > > -- > Torbj=F6rn > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > use zfs mount/imount From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 18:23:24 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8CE106566B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:23:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938408FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwd6 with SMTP id 6so1677987qwd.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:23:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qYV9izuLdpZtDGU0UuQuVJYcxisw/zBSeJsUslVQA5s=; b=h5J4wnU2XlIv08v+YzdnFePtP+SHC2dxWLkFUGp2ouV3aPJFkKE2u3JJEWXFceULXQ SDrdMceibbEXxRHcn1Wl5vVX6Kc6mBu/BvJ4TNTLozD4XiVz4YF4ULOfDvyjjewpplIQ 6KMgd+JMRyEZh9qmtRY4GEZyQWQvH1DZXnNLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=XAahFJIyf5s//O46YDWvnmeFUaGwgCi1MklW68i4IdeZpwmHdtBNjOyttvyh6DvctY p6AR79uVaasV0NSG5AcXKMzQ/08fQMhm+9xs7j8/hGXfgW3LUDSjTm9j56aJI38w0f5A njmQAmjgA6r4DzqJWqQjoAdcp2amVapfXx3xY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.6.145 with SMTP id 17mr2732394qaz.218.1285350962520; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.215.209 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:56:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <867hibxh6t.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:56:02 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Torbjorn Granlund Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mount order for ZFS, jails, and nullfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:23:24 -0000 On 24 September 2010 18:52, krad wrote: > > > On 24 September 2010 17:03, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: > >> In jails, I'd like a local ZFS /, a read-only nullfs-mounted /usr, and a >> local /usr/local. (I'd also have read-only nullfs-mounted /bin, /lib, >> /libexec, but let's forget about that for now.) >> >> This way, I can upgrade the master /usr once, in one place, and have all >> jails inherit it. And my dear jail inmates can install anything in >> /usr/local (such as their favourite packages/ports). >> >> I.e., things should look like this: >> >> /myjail/ zfs >> /myjail/usr nullfs ro >> /myjail/usr/local zfs >> >> There is no problem to make this happen by issuing a handful of commands >> manually after boot, but I cannot seem to get it to work automatically, >> with existing boot mechanism. The problem is that the mount of /usr >> will be attempted before ZFS has mounted /myjail, the jail's root. >> >> ZFS maintains its own mount table. It is possible to disable the >> automated mounting in ZFS by specifying the pseudo mountpoint "legacy", >> and then--according to the FreeBSD manual--mount it with mount(8). >> Unfortunately, FreeBSD's mount seems unable to perform mounts of ZFS >> volumes. >> >> How can I achieve the result I want after a reboot? >> >> >> (The reply "use ezjail!" is not the right one. :-) It does not do what >> I want to do. I dislike its symlink forest, and that it creates just >> one ZFS filesystem for the entire jail.) >> >> -- >> Torbj=F6rn >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > use zfs mount/imount > whops s/i/u/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 18:47:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88A1106566B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455BA8FC17 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:47:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzDIR-00007Y-RU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:46:59 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.85.36]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:46:59 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:46:59 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:49:26 -0400 Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: Trouble enabling GD in php/apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:47:01 -0000 Andy Wodfer wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE. > > I can't get GD enabled. I have installed latestes php5 from ports aswell > as php5-extensions and enabled GD on the option screen: > > cd /usr/ports/lang/php5 > make deinstall > make clean > make rmconfig > make install clean > > cd /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions > make deinstall > make clean > make rmconfig > make install clean > > I'm running the latest Apache 2.2.x version and GD 2.0.35. > > I'm currently doing a portupgrade -a to see if that helps, but I think > not. > > What's the correct way of getting GD to work on Ie. a webshop (opencart)? > I'm having the exact same problem. Have done the above manual rebuild/reinstall for php52-gd and gd. Have done portupgrade -fr php52-gd so far, but got called away before I tried the -fr on gd so it would rebuild the jpeg/png libraries. Was going to try that next. The .so is present in the correct location, the line is present in php.ini and phpinfo, pgp -m, and php -i all show the module loaded. I run PHP here as FastCGI and everything but gd works as expected. httpd-error.log is only showing me this: [Thu Sep 23 18:22:06 2010] [error] [client 192.168.10.2] Premature end of script headers: antibot_image.php, referer: https://flintriver.test.zip/help.php?section=contactus&mode=update [Thu Sep 23 18:22:08 2010] [error] mod_fcgid: process /usr/local/bin/php- cgi(1317) exit(communication error), get unexpected signal 6 Had this problem once before a long time ago and the rebuild/reinstall dance took care of it at that time and I forgot about it. This time seems different somehow and running out of ideas fast. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 19:22:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E701065670 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leif.walsh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C32E8FC17 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so1816811qyk.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:22:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FKmf3qapLnx8Xy4ESwR6+3Nm/6AY6wuw+Cl6up1zA9Y=; b=xUnsY7GljbM6Ca9zVS/6UBsR7kvof2G2OjZ4YQ3KvhD/RgNMu49jAO27k008eDzxe8 oROEt90oagMw+46YzCvkd86hGaXPptAowCoifM0pusubG/860ICfMN2NrXOk6m9vUtml 48ksteAFkSm7FJhwDMO3jLYzQQ+ytL2XcXfJY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UpqxI/B7C0mHvlhNfsdp4b/VGL+h0pYnzFwwz8VuUn2tVNeDojJOK1fYYLvTkmeTh+ AgcCYL0pELYZmnDW+j3BTpe7N8IxNxier/cWabws45iHtslzRClWc1hvmCHFwtmqopJz tp+kl6JJm3Ic77tiEJMUPPVv1KG6IMLLdgnsw= Received: by 10.224.74.67 with SMTP id t3mr2752788qaj.266.1285356132352; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:22:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.79.193 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:21:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Leif Walsh Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:21:51 -0400 Message-ID: To: krad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux filesystems accessible from FreeBSD 8-stable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:22:13 -0000 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:04 PM, krad wrote: > Im not 100% sure=C2=A0 (probably about 60% actually) but cant you mount e= xt4 as > ext2? From what i vaguly remember there will be some limitations but its > worth having a look # mount -t ext2fs /dev/ad4p1 /mnt mount: /dev/ad4p1 : Invalid argument Unless there's something I'm missing, nope. ext3 works because the only difference between it and ext2 is the journal, I believe the on-disk format of ext4 is different (though maybe I'm wrong and the bsd drivers for ext2 just are too conservative?). --=20 Cheers, Leif From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 19:36:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68F4106566B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from honeysuckle.london.02.net (honeysuckle.london.02.net [87.194.255.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2368FC19 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eco.config (93.97.24.219) by honeysuckle.london.02.net (8.5.124.10) id 4C884E6F005B4EAE; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:36:41 +0100 Message-ID: <4C9CFDC9.5030707@onetel.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:36:41 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091212) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alejandro Imass References: <4C9B8360.6090100@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: which perl? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:36:43 -0000 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Todays ports tree has lang/perl5.10 and lang/perl5.12. A new 8.1-RELEASE >> jail in tinderbox using this ports tree is using perl5.10 by default. Should >> I leave this as is or should I be using 5.12? >> > > IMHO 5.10 is new enough! But the great thing about the Perl community > is that it usually respects previous versions not like some other > crazy, irresponsible "communities" such as PHP who can break your code > from 5.2 to 5.3. Doesn't sound like there are strong reasons for going for 5.12 so I'll stick with the default. thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 19:48:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8EC106564A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (asmtp3.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B798FC1B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8OJm1kH002446; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:48:01 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o8OJm0Jm002440; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:48:00 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5B99C33C3D; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:48:00 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:48:00 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Leif Walsh Message-ID: <20100924194800.GA18130@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux filesystems accessible from FreeBSD 8-stable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:48:04 -0000 On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 01:59:40PM -0400, Leif Walsh wrote: > > I can't seem to get a definitive answer on this from the internet, > there's a lot of conflicting information. > > I have some data drives formatted with ext4, which I'd like to access > from freebsd, preferably without totally reformatting because I don't > have much temp space for copying. Read-only would be fine, read-write > would be much preferred. > > Is this possible? Am I missing the big "ext4 drivers in > freebsd/fuse/something" sign? Does anyone happen to know if it's > possible to migrate an ext4 drive back to ext3, which it seems I can > access from bsd if I let it pretend the journal doesn't exist? > Wikipedia seems to think you're right in thinking you can migrate (or mount only?) an ext4 as ext3: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4 AFAIK and I stand to be corrected, in FreeBSD you mount ext3 as ext2. Whether you can mount ext4 as ext2; I don't know and I can't test. But it looks like you can't: http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-3377.html and this Status report suggests support is being written: http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2009-04-2009-09.html You might wan't to drop the guy who was hoping to do it (Aditya Sarawgi) an email. ext3 can be read and written to on FreeBSD but the journal becomes out of date which is corrected when you boot up Linux and mount the filesystems as ext3. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 20:05:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A33D106564A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:05:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfunk6@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtao101.cox.net (eastrmmtao101.cox.net [68.230.240.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE408FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100924200550.KQZK17186.eastrmmtao101.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:05:50 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.0.73.73]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id Ak5k1f00V1asDc402k5q2P; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:05:51 -0400 X-VR-Score: -20.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Cpsp9XuSY13Uni36OgXCsheP7uKp19gQdVzN1WEXNos= c=1 sm=1 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=cldQwrSUzPq7T4OJ8kWhDA==:17 a=G6ONOTIKM7vgk6JtjvoA:9 a=YiZjkFd_GAh2x-hpST-FoW7y5CYA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=cldQwrSUzPq7T4OJ8kWhDA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=dfunk6@cox.net Message-ID: <4C9D0499.3050908@cox.net> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:05:45 -0500 From: Derek Funk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100914 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100924-1, 09/24/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Filesystems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:05:52 -0000 There was a post some time ago someone was complaining that FreeBSD still uses and archaic filesystem and not a new FS like ext4. Some replied, seeming like a code contributor, with a very sounded reply. What is that reply? Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 20:13:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E34106566C for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:13:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drizzt321@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B918FC14 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwd6 with SMTP id 6so1746067qwd.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:13:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z1GzGrJCM9XSb7DqbiiOljOrtK48yv4hpNuFSQBr9A8=; b=Xk7isGyoOOrbbPfqHcktWEEr5vuD9tcG1fQ8Byh6Yl6fp7WYcdND95E1+/jtH8UzBo n5dxpTzBKfzMJExUTH+bSDyjq9sEuq0B2zuCtk2JEgqdFUp8FbvMUjwXfyMEbiXHG55s 3423Bc0thAPfGdjnKLQhmBj7RXbYipoB4z94Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cgbOsBn2v5OB8NpcS0mvwsRXi4l0bGs0bPP+Od6oqHqQx3yLF66mKZxopiXfstEbms QUrFAnGOBeNoFDP+M0iWJM5LN5czgfPr0HwS3X5U0XBHwOtz6n+198EE+HXq3RtlCYAd aXw2Hs3xW/BYQgd91824wDUZZngSq862PQDF0= Received: by 10.229.222.6 with SMTP id ie6mr2976755qcb.28.1285359235172; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:13:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.236.85 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:13:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Aaron Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:13:34 -0700 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Linux filesystems accessible from FreeBSD 8-stable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:13:56 -0000 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:21, Leif Walsh wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:04 PM, krad wrote: >> Im not 100% sure=A0 (probably about 60% actually) but cant you mount ext= 4 as >> ext2? From what i vaguly remember there will be some limitations but its >> worth having a look > > =A0# mount -t ext2fs /dev/ad4p1 /mnt > mount: /dev/ad4p1 : Invalid argument > > Unless there's something I'm missing, nope. =A0ext3 works because the > only difference between it and ext2 is the journal, I believe the > on-disk format of ext4 is different (though maybe I'm wrong and the > bsd drivers for ext2 just are too conservative?). > > -- > Cheers, > Leif > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > Doesn't look like you can mount an ext4 as ext2/3 if you have extents enabled, which is probably enabled by default if you create a new filesystem. >From https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_= I_mount_existing_Ext3_as_Ext4.3F_And_vice_versa.3F_Similarly_from_Ext2_to_E= xt4_and_its_reverse.3F "Once you have enabled extents or created a journal on a former ext2 filesystem, it is an ext4 filesystem and cannot be reverted to ext2." >From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4#Features Under "Backward compatibility" header "However, if the ext4 partition uses extents (a major new feature of ext4), then the ability to mount the file system as ext3 is lost. --Aaron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 20:20:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEB6106566B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAA58FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c83-255-61-120.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.61.120]:56234 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1OzEkF-0006sB-9F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:19:49 +0200 Received: (qmail 25129 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2010 22:19:44 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 24 Sep 2010 22:19:44 +0200 Received: (qmail 8424 invoked by uid 1001); 24 Sep 2010 22:19:44 +0200 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:19:44 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Frank Shute Message-ID: <20100924201944.GA8385@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <20100924194800.GA18130@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100924194800.GA18130@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.61.120 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1OzEkF-0006sB-9F. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1OzEkF-0006sB-9F c9f9530bbae8ce5dc7a5087f2bfbd36d Cc: Leif Walsh , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux filesystems accessible from FreeBSD 8-stable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:20:23 -0000 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 08:48:00PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 01:59:40PM -0400, Leif Walsh wrote: > > > > I can't seem to get a definitive answer on this from the internet, > > there's a lot of conflicting information. > > > > I have some data drives formatted with ext4, which I'd like to access > > from freebsd, preferably without totally reformatting because I don't > > have much temp space for copying. Read-only would be fine, read-write > > would be much preferred. > > > > Is this possible? Am I missing the big "ext4 drivers in > > freebsd/fuse/something" sign? Does anyone happen to know if it's > > possible to migrate an ext4 drive back to ext3, which it seems I can > > access from bsd if I let it pretend the journal doesn't exist? > > > > Wikipedia seems to think you're right in thinking you can migrate (or > mount only?) an ext4 as ext3: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4 Well, not quite. That article says: The ext3 file system is partially forward compatible with ext4, that is, an ext4 filesystem can be mounted as an ext3 partition (using "ext3" as the filesystem type when mounting). However, if the ext4 partition uses extents (a major new feature of ext4), then the ability to mount the file system as ext3 is lost. So, if an ext4 filesystem can be mounted as ext3 (and presumably as ext2 since ext3 filesystems can be mounted as ext2) seems to depend on how the ext4 filesystem was created/used. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 20:47:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465B1106564A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8C88FC20 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13253 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2010 20:47:17 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Sep 2010 20:47:17 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 97A4B5084D; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:47:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Rick Miller References: <90e6ba4883cb50e1500490c7b441@google.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:47:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Rick Miller's message of "Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:54:36 -0400") Message-ID: <44k4ma50od.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Media Packages Vs. Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:47:18 -0000 Rick Miller writes: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Adam Vande More = wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:41 AM, wrote: >>> >>> =A0Is it possible to take a port, make a package of it and put it in the >>> packages directory of my own media? >> >> Sure it's easy.=A0 When build a port you can issue a make package comman= d, or >> you can use pkg_create to create packages from installed ported.=A0 A co= mmon >> approach to this is build all your updates in a jail, make packages of t= hem, >> then delete package from the host and install the newly built ones from = the >> jail.=A0 Very small, if any downtime.=A0 You can use the jail to create = pkg's >> for a custom repository too. > > I've created the package and copied it to the networked media. How do > I edit the INDEX file so that it knows how to get the file? I'm not sure what you're saying here, but I think what you want is just to set the PACKAGEROOT variable. If you want to create your own install disks, the release(7) manual will point you in the right direction. If you're doing a network install, you need to lay out the package directories the same way as the install media. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 21:02:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1306B106566C for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from PMahan@adaranet.com) Received: from barracuda.adaranet.com (smtp.adaranet.com [72.5.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D608FC12 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:02:30 +0000 (UTC) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1285360321-506167130001-jLrpzn Received: from SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com ([10.10.1.29]) by barracuda.adaranet.com with ESMTP id C6F1hLwXvtcFxdoF for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:32:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: PMahan@adaranet.com Received: from SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com ([fe80::7042:d8c2:5973:c523]) by SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com ([fe80::7042:d8c2:5973:c523%14]) with mapi; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:32:01 -0700 From: Patrick Mahan X-Barracuda-BBL-IP: fe80::7042:d8c2:5973:c523 X-Barracuda-RBL-IP: fe80::7042:d8c2:5973:c523 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:31:53 -0700 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Attempting to use the kernel debugger over the serial port not working (well) Thread-Topic: Attempting to use the kernel debugger over the serial port not working (well) Thread-Index: ActcJ4XhsKUfRUdSSguyuFNQ9ZP6uQ== Message-ID: <32AB5C9615CC494997D9ABB1DB12783C024C95063B@SJ-EXCH-1.adaranet.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AT+V AmmQ A5B4 DYA4 DYs6 EDhG FT+0 GcnS IHDb IJXp I0DV J3Rm Kerx LNbt LXts MCTt; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {6D97E417-B242-48DF-BCDB-38041532CACD}; cABtAGEAaABhAG4AQABhAGQAYQByAGEAbgBlAHQALgBjAG8AbQA=; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:31:53 GMT; QQB0AHQAZQBtAHAAdABpAG4AZwAgAHQAbwAgAHUAcwBlACAAdABoAGUAIABrAGUAcgBuAGUAbAAgAGQAZQBiAHUAZwBnAGUAcgAgAG8AdgBlAHIAIAB0AGgAZQAgAHMAZQByAGkAYQBsACAAcABvAHIAdAAgAG4AbwB0ACAAdwBvAHIAawBpAG4AZwAgACgAdwBlAGwAbAApAA== x-cr-puzzleid: {6D97E417-B242-48DF-BCDB-38041532CACD} acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[10.10.1.29] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1285360321 X-Barracuda-URL: http://172.16.10.203:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at adaranet.com Subject: Attempting to use the kernel debugger over the serial port not working (well) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:02:31 -0000 All, Cannot seem to find anything on the net to collaborate my experience with remote KGDB over a serial port. Here is my setup - ----------------+--------------------------+-------------------------+-----= -------------- | | | bce0 eth1 bce0 | | | +-----------+--------------+ +-------+--------+ +-----------+-----= ------+ | HP Proliant GL360 G5 | | Cyclades ACS32 | | HP Proliant GL36= 0 G5 | +-------------------+------+ +----+-----------+ +-----------------= ------+ | | ttyu0(uart0) port 28 | | +---------------+ The Cyclades is a 32 port terminal server that has serial port 28 connected to the DB9 locate on the back of the HP server. I am running KGDB inside of an emacs session on the Sony Vaio. The HP's are running in 64-bit (amd64) FreeBSD 8.0. The uart0 on the target is configured as (from dmesg.boot): uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x90 on acpi0 uart0: [FILTER] uart0: console (9600,n,8,1) The Cyclades port is configured the same. My kernel is built with the following options: options KDB options DDB options GDB The kernel is built with -O2 -g In /boot/loader.conf I have the following lines: console=3D"comconsole vidconsole" comconsole_speed=3D9600 hint.uart.0.flags=3D"0x90" I invoke the kernel debugger on the target using: 'sysctl debug.kdb.enter=3D1' Which gets me to the DB> prompt where I enter the following: DB>gdb Step to enter the gdb debugger DB>s I am invoking KGDB inside of emacs on the build server in the 'obj' tree where the kernel build is located. kgdb -fullname kernel.debug Once I have the gdb prompt, I enter the following target command: target remote 10.10.29.111:7028 Where 10.10.29.111 is the address of the Cyclades and port 7028 connects me to serial port 28 on the Cyclades. This brings up the kernel with the break point. I then set my break point(s) and enter 'c' to continue. Sometimes the break points fire, sometimes they don't. However, in some indeterminant time (seconds) I start seeing the following on the Video console (not the serial one). Fatal double fault rip =3D 0xffffffff8055bdc4 rsp =3D 0xffffff8078405000 rbp =3D 0xffffff8078405000 cpuid =3D 1; apic id =3D 01 panic: double fault cpuid =3D 1 KDB: stack backtrace: db_trace_self_wrapper() at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x2a kdb_backtrace() at kdb_backtrace+0x32 mi_switch() at mi_switch+0x70 sched_bind() at sched_bind+0x60 boot() at boot+0x45 panic() at panic+0x1f2 dblfault_handler() at dblfault_handler+0xab Xdblfault() at Xdblfault+0xac --- trap 0x17, rip =3D 0xffffffff8055bdc4, rsp =3D 0xffffff8000017ff0, rbp = =3D 0xffffff8078405000 --- _thread_lock_flags() at _thread_lock_flags+0x4 critical_exit() at critical_exit+0x5d spinlock_exit() at spinlock_exit+0x17 mi_switch() at mi_switch+0x6b Then it repeats over and over again, the box becomes unresponsive and I am = unable to proceed. My googling turned up this issue only in relation to lock order reversals, = but I am not seeing that issue here and I don't have the kernel compiled with 'options W= ITNESS'. Any pointers would be appreciated. Thanks, Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 21:13:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F011065674 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F234E8FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8OLDM4g042253 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:13:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C9D146C.10009@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:13:16 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Funk References: <4C9D0499.3050908@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <4C9D0499.3050908@cox.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig873FB3F7B537813F00B458B0" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:13:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig873FB3F7B537813F00B458B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24/09/2010 21:05:45, Derek Funk wrote: > There was a post some time ago someone was complaining that FreeBSD > still uses and archaic filesystem and not a new FS like ext4. Some > replied, seeming like a code contributor, with a very sounded reply.=20 > What is that reply? ZFS or words to that effect. Linux has nothing comparable. Cheers, Matthew Not that UFS2 comes off badly when compared to ext{3,4}. 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Mitja -------- http://starikarp.redbubble.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 21:26:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF85C106564A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:26:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repcsike@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967508FC0A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:26:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so3372476iwn.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:26:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wLlBO1Pc8TDHf7zoGAyf6BQ4kRWWI9y/n+Y5hQu5jR4=; b=EejAyK6vAYM+M40nLkBu82Y1NEWgKb85IY5Q18jqvBa06C8KM6TjQz6Ivc85uQgHZK edbW5FM2GCZhJJHcsAdRqADASrcXdANseBYp0lcwT21DrfR4ikvRNwhWucDNIDyKeA6a v2JYa8QGSzRT8ijP8fhvqMunHtc7wefFrWVjU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YrOBMmDyxeql4oN6b24Gsw33VUTQyjn8EHQYC6+CgVU2mSf+nXmfUi7p+Dvlm2tE6k 3t0DP+g+fQpBsjyezL+UsZ30U/Hyp5MNvJONv50ulbGs37KjbGxVVkti/+n1wrFYu/V3 88T9IJyYvTqqbaldKQhidof3ckkuLnC7SX/Fo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.11.72 with SMTP id s8mr3754009ibs.110.1285363578818; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.153.141 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:26:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201009241620.43212.lumiwa@gmail.com> References: <201009241620.43212.lumiwa@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:26:18 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?QmFs4XpzIE3hdOlmZnk=?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: automake X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:26:20 -0000 Hi, Try this: portmaster -od /usr/ports/devel/automake19/ automake-1.4.6_5 or your automake version, look it up with "pkg_info | grep automake" Hope this helps! If needed try to update everything that was depending on automake! BR, Balazs. On 24 September 2010 23:20, ajtiM wrote: > Today I tried on my FreeBSD 8.0 > > portmaster -ad > ===>>> Gathering distinfo list for installed ports > > ===>>> Starting check of installed ports for available updates > > ===>>> The devel/automake15 port has been deleted: Outdated, ports migrated > to > automake19 > ===>>> Aborting update > > Thanks in advance. > > Mitja > -------- > http://starikarp.redbubble.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 22:52:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422D8106564A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eoakes@comcast.net) Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1888FC13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id AfA61f0061afHeLAFmf5uj; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:39:05 +0000 Received: from abbyBSD7.workgroup ([76.18.90.79]) by omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Amf41f0031ijSP88dmf4HE; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:39:04 +0000 Message-ID: <4C9D19E3.4040004@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:36:35 -0600 From: tom oakes User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Writing to MBR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:52:15 -0000 Hello, I have done a clean install of freebsd 8.1 on /dev/ad4s1a with the following: # Intel Core 2 Duo Dual-Core E6300 2.8GHz 1066MHz 2MB Cache Processor # ASRock G31M-S R2.0 Core 2 Quad/ Intel G31/ FSB 1600(OC)/ DDR2/ A&V&L/ MATX Motherboard # 4GB (2X2GB) DDR2-1066 PC2 8500 Dual Channel # Hitachi / WD 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB CACHE SATA 3.0Gb/s # kern.geom.debugflags=15160 Gb Disk on IDE Slave I added X11, KDE3, emacs, and BASH from ports or packages. /dev/ad4 has 4 slices of about 240GB. Freebsd is installed on the entire first slice. File system is ufs2 on /dev/ad4s1 and /dev/ad4s2. the other 2 slices do not have a filesystem installed. I did a tar of the / to an external usbdisk. I decided to install GRUB. (I really didn't need it, the bsd boot loader is working. But like the way it looks and it is easy to modify) I installed grub from the port and copied the required files to /boot/grub. I created a menu.lst in /boot/grub. I created a bootable grub cd which boots the operating system. I then tried to copy stage1 to the MBR with: fdisk -B -b /boot/grub/stage1 ad4 2 prompts: one to write to MBR, which I answered 'y', and the other to modify the partition table that I answered 'n'. I tried this from the hard disk boot, my grub bootable cd, and the freebsd livecd. None wrote to the MBR. The freebsd bootloader was still loaded. I found a post that said to do a sysctl kern.geom.debugflag=16 I tried again. Still didn't work. I found a post that said for version 8.0 or 8.1 it needed to be 17. I tried that and it still didn't work. I found a post that said to do a gpart -bootcode -B /boot/grub/stage1 ad4 and got a message "ad4 has bootcode" I did this both before and after doing the sysctl with 16 and 17. It seems to me that writing the stage1 file to the MBR should be straight forward, so I must be missing something simple. I don't have a critical problem, I can still boot from the freebsd bootloader or from my grub cd. After chasing my tail for a couple of days trying to get grub working, I hate to just give up. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 23:04:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C64106566B for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8F08FC08 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:04:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk31 with SMTP id 31so2105436qyk.13 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:04:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Wl6TCDZv7ym1BGiEtSYca//tu4/KmKlIqjHnbPestwA=; b=xw3OBZj4wbNA50f7HQeXYrGt/uWbxwWIcVGAq1j7kb9Xf65RfmFzLiXskdc4PHUBlD EQasAOOCUml/6pdTZ5XGTv5zyrlVqnnGY+CMqPK031kiXttu2fXmyCiaUC7139sIFFFM VylLjUOEZV+uguf26rMBWZil1NdxKnumMVRVU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=r+HgGv1HMrAJNU2g1J3GN4GBoZXtBJzj43CVXKGucv1n108oJNbDszkRma6GbPYDcb 7sXfDHd7pxsuH7LI1fjU/jfjxmhBkOjveONsPtQYe4iWX1KVRUZjvElT4zDu+Eu+OfzO hb58heObCZ7aar0m/n5351sSMSXzdRe6MA2xo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.71.136 with SMTP id h8mr1673528vcj.135.1285369485868; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.192.72 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:04:45 -0800 Message-ID: From: David Allen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Multiple Machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:04:47 -0000 Multiple Machines This is sort of a "best practices" kind of question so all comments are welcome. I'm wondering what folks are doing when setting up multiple (more than 1, but less than 10) machines. Consider, for example, some ordinary files such as the following: /root/.cshrc /root/.bashrc # toor account /root/.bash_profile # toor account /home/username/.bashrc /home/username/.bash_profile /etc/make.conf /etc/src.conf /etc/fstab # nfs mount entries /etc/resolv.conf /etc/ntp.conf Some files are identical, some require different permissions, and some (like fstab) consist of customizations that need to be added. Short of enabling root ssh logins or writing makefiles, what would be the best approach to handing the above? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 00:11:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75283106564A for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 00:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0568FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 00:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [208.206.78.30] (port=60918 helo=dt.vicor.com) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OzILy-0004Qy-Ng; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:11:01 -0700 From: Devin Teske To: Rick Miller In-Reply-To: References: <90e6ba4883cb50e1500490c7b441@google.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Vicor, Inc Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:10:57 -0700 Message-Id: <1285373457.15590.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-41.el4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scan-Signature: 17bc5e69d71777f8e91302e95bf09c77 X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Cc: Adam Vande More , Devin Teske , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Media Packages Vs. Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 00:11:17 -0000 On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 10:54 -0400, Rick Miller wrote: > I've created the package and copied it to the networked media. How do > I edit the INDEX file so that it knows how to get the file? HINT: If you created the package from the ports tree, you can say "make describe" in the package's top-level port directory (e.g. /usr/ports/pkg_origin/some_pkg). This will produce a line that can be added to the INDEX file without much modification, if any. In addition, here's a guide that I wrote long ago: HOWTO: Interpret the obfuscated `INDEX' file located on FreeBSD CD-ROMs. AUTHOR: Devin Teske DATE: January 1st, 2006 LAST MODIFIED: February 24th, 2006 09:45:54 PURPOSE: This file documents the file format of `/packages/INDEX' file located on FreeBSD installation CD-ROMs and conveys what it is used for (and its importance). 1. Foreword 2. The INDEX File 3. The FreeBSD INDEX File Format 3a. FreeBSD-5.2 and FreeBSD-4.10 or Lower 3b. FreeBSD-5.3 and FreeBSD-4.11 or Higher 3c. FreeBSD-6.0 or Higher 4. Field Definitions 5. Field Population 6. References =============================================================================== 1. FOREWORD This document describes the format of the `/packages/INDEX' file located on the FreeBSD installation CD-ROM. Depending on which FreeBSD release version you are working with, the format may vary. Documented below you will find 3 versions commonly used. Common between each version, is that each line (delimited by the new- line character) corresponds to a singl e package (found in `packages/All'). It is possible to have additional fields beyond the last field (for custom purposes) as they will be ignored by sysinstall. =============================================================================== 2. THE INDEX FILE The INDEX file (located on the FreeBSD installation CD-ROMs) is a file that is read by sysinstall (see sysinstall(8)) for the installation of ancillary packages (located in `/packages'). When sysinstall displays an interactive menu for the selection of these packages, it uses the INDEX file (located at `/packages/INDEX') to display information such as the package name, the package description, and what categories to place it in. If sysinstall is scripted, then the interactive menu may or may not be invoked (if not, then the categories/description fields may be omitted). When sysinstall is in the process of installing the packages, it first makes sure that all the run-dependencies (listed in the INDEX file for that package) are installed. If a package that is listed in the `run-deps' field is not installed, sysinstall installs it before installing the requested package. After installing any dependent packages (recursively), sysinstall then unpacks the requested package and reads its packing-list (the `+CONTENTS' file within the package tarball). All package dependencies listed inside the package's packing-list MUST be installed before-hand or else sysinstall will generate an error. Therefore, all package dependencies that appear in the packing list MUST be present in the `run-deps' field of the INDEX file. There reverse is not true, however. A dependency may appear in the INDEX file and not in the package's packing-list. =============================================================================== 3. THE FREEBSD INDEX FILE FORMAT 3a. FREEBSD-5.2 AND FREEBSD-4.10 OR LOWER package|port-origin|install-prefix|comment|port-desc-file|maintainer| \ categories|build-deps|run-deps|www-site 3b. FREEBSD-5.3 AND FREEBSD-4.11 OR HIGHER package|port-origin|install-prefix|comment|port-desc-file|maintainer| \ categories|build-deps|run-deps|www-site|unknown|unknown|unknown I have never seen the 11th, 12th, or 13th field populated. So their purpose remains unknown. 3c. FREEBSD-6.0 OR HIGHER package|port-origin|install-prefix|comment|port-desc-file|maintainer| \ categories|build-deps|run-deps|www-site|unknown|unknown|unknown|disc =============================================================================== 4. FIELD DEFINITIONS package This is the name of the package. This should be the name of the file as it appears in `/packages/All' without the `.tgz' suffix. This value is used for finding the package tarball and is also displayed in the left- hand column of the interactive package selection menu of sysinstall. port-origin The package origin (as a qualified pathname). Basically, this is the origin of the package with a `/usr/ports/' prefix. Even if you do not install the Ports Collection (which installs Makefiles and other infor- mation), this should be populated respectively. install-prefix The base directory where the package will install it's files to. For example, if the package installs files into `/usr/local/bin' and `/usr/local/sbin' then the install-prefix would be `/usr/local'. This is an informational value (the package's packing-list takes precedence). comment This is the one-line comment for the package. This should be the same as the contents of the `+COMMENT' file located within the package tarball. This value is displayed in the right-hand column of the interactive package selection menu of sysinstall. desc-file When you install the Ports Collection the `/usr/ports' directory is populated with Makefiles and other information. This value should be the path to the description file for the package. This is only used when you install the FreeBSD Ports Collection. maintainer The e-mail address of the package maintainer. categories Within the `/packages' directory of the CD-ROM, you will find (besides the INDEX file) several directories. The actual package should always reside in the `All' directory (as this is where sysinstall looks for it) However, finding the package you want/need can become quite cumbersome if you have to sift through every package in one directory. To ease the process of finding a specific package, you can populate this field with several categories (sub-directories) that the package can be found in. When sysinstall's interactive package selection menu is invoked (either by a script or simply interactively) it allows a user to browse several categories to find a specific package. This field dictates to sysinstall which categories (delimited by a space) the package is available in. When you specify a category (sub-directory), the simplest (and most efficient) thing to do is, create a symbolic link in the category directory ( in `/packages' ) pointing to the actual package ( in `/packages/All'). build-deps These are the dependencies (names of packages delimited by a space) that this package requires to be built. This is used if you install the FreeBSD Ports Collection. run-deps These are the dependencies (names of packages delimited by a space) that this package requires to run. Any package listed here will be installed by sysinstall before the package is even attempted to be installed. See section 2 paragraph 3 for more information. www-site Either the website URL of where the package can be obtained, the package maintainer, or the website URL of the item that the package installs. unknown If a field has been marked `unknown' in section 3, it is because I have never seen it populated and thus never used. These fields can be left empty without any recourse. disc The disc that the package can be found on (in a multi-disc distribution of the FreeBSD installation). This is a new feature of FreeBSD-6.0 Other distributions (such as FreeBSD-4.8 and FreeBSD-4.11 do not list packages in the INDEX file unless it appears on the same CD-ROM). =============================================================================== 5. FIELD POPULATION Below you will find various ways that you can use to populate the formats listed in section 3 given nothing more than a package tarball. NOTE: these commands must be run on a FreeBSD distribution (as Linux and other UNIX distributions do not have the `pkg_info' command). package - file_name without `.tgz' suffix port-path - echo /usr/ports/`pkg_info -qo file` install-prefix - pkg_info -qp file | head -n1 | sed -e 's/^@cwd //' comment - pkg_info -qI file desc-file - echo /usr/ports/`pkg_info -qo file`/pkg-descr maintainer - echo ports@FreeBSD.org categories - find . -type l -name FILE | \ sed -e 's/^\.\/\(.*\)\/[^\/]*$/\1/' | tr '\n' ' ' build-deps - pkg_info -qr file | sed -e 's/^@pkgdep //' | tr '\n' ' ' run-deps - pkg_info -qr file | sed -e 's/^@pkgdep //' | tr '\n' ' ' www-site - pkg_info -qd file | grep '^WWW: ' | sed -e 's/^WWW: //' disc - the disc that the package resides on =============================================================================== 6. REFERENCES The information in this document is the result of many hours of reverse- engineering and testing. 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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Erlang VM really should *not* depend on Java. Right? --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkydU+oACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW/8wCguO9k0KOyyuwPBsCp/GYluR8f ho4AnRAucEjAkKOz/MxiVevyNhSf/E+o =HEyn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 02:11:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC9C106566B for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 02:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.net) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AE78FC08 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 02:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id o8P1qTkP000837 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:52:29 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o8P1qTRH000836; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:52:29 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 38206BF5F; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:50:48 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from David Allen on Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:04:45 -0800) Organization: Array Infotech X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Array Infotech. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 References: Message-Id: <20100925015049.38206BF5F@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:50:48 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: Multiple Machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 02:11:26 -0000 >> On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:04:45 -0800, >> David Allen said: D> I'm wondering what folks are doing when setting up multiple (more than D> 1, but less than 10) machines. Consider, for example, some ordinary D> files such as the following: D> /root/.cshrc /home/username/.bashrc The first thing I'd recommend for root and home dotfiles is placing them under revision control. I'm (slowly) moving to GIT, but for now RCS does the trick just fine: me% echo $RCSINIT -zLT me% ident .vimrc .zshrc .vimrc: $Revision: 1.40 $ $Date: 2010-08-16 15:02:52-04 $ $Source: /home/vogelke/RCS/.vimrc,v $ $Host: example.org $ $UUID: a4f4bf9d-514d-37c7-a0e1-04b41434e869 $ .zshrc: $Revision: 1.21 $ $Date: 2010-09-24 20:13:04-04 $ $Source: /home/vogelke/RCS/.zshrc,v $ $Host: example.org $ $UUID: da56ec7f-14be-39b5-8583-d31b5afb80eb $ I use the RCSINIT environment variable to prepend "-zLT" to the argument list for rcs commands so I get dates in localtime with the timezone appended. A short script called "mkrcs" creates the RCS strings shown above; I like including the FQDN of the host on which the file was created, along with a random UUID. After I get a set of dotfiles I'm happy with, I usually make separate tarballs for regular users and root. D> /etc/fstab /etc/resolv.conf /etc files go under revision control with an extra step; just after installation, back up /etc. root# cd /etc root# mkdir /etc.orig root# find . -depth -print | pax -rwd -pe /etc.orig I also get a signature of all installed files: root# cd / root# find . -type f -print | grep -v '^./proc/' | sort | xargs md5 -r This goes in /root/orig.md5 after stripping out /tmp, /var/tmp, /var/log, /var/run, etc. D> Some files are identical, some require different permissions, and some D> (like fstab) consist of customizations that need to be added. Short of D> enabling root ssh logins or writing makefiles, what would be the best D> approach to handing the above? Any system I maintain gets a directory called "/doc/sitelog/hostname". Tarballs, patches, etc. all go under that directory. If I upgrade a system or install a similar one, the tarballs and patches handle most of the gruntwork. I use a script like the one below to figure out what files I've added to (or removed from) /etc and make patches for the modified files. Patches go in their own /tmp/work$$ directory and look like this: root# cat /tmp/work81394/etc-shells *** /etc.orig/shells Sun May 7 00:00:23 2006 --- /etc/shells Wed Sep 9 21:06:04 2009 *************** *** 6,9 **** --- 6,13 ---- /bin/sh /bin/csh + /bin/ksh /bin/tcsh + /bin/bash + /usr/local/bin/ksh + /usr/local/bin/zsh -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Hopefully digesting of this tasty post would not cause too much of farting. --Yaroslav Halchenko, after reading a good debian-users message --------------------------------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/sh # $flist echo "results in $work" >$2 for x in `cat $flist` do cur="/etc/$x" orig="/etc.orig/$x" if test -f "$cur" -a -f "$orig"; then patch=`echo $cur | sed -e 's!^/!!' -e 's!/!-!g'` cmp -s $orig $cur || diff -c $orig $cur > $work/$patch elif test -f "$cur"; then echo ADD: $cur elif test -f "$orig"; then echo DEL: $cur fi done rm $flist exit 0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 05:05:07 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC39106566B for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 05:05:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6787E8FC13 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 05:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OzMwc-0005Nb-NK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:05:06 -0700 Message-ID: <29804352.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 22:05:06 -0700 (PDT) From: zaxis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100925014410.GA23892@guilt.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: z_axis@163.com References: <20100925014410.GA23892@guilt.hydra> Subject: Re: Erlang and Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 05:05:07 -0000 Erlang doesnot depend on java. I have installed erlang sucessfully just by `make install clean` without java. Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > Does anyone know of a reason that installing lang/erlang would fail if a > java/diablo-jdk port failed to install? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the > Erlang VM really should *not* depend on Java. Right? >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] >=20 > =20 >=20 ----- e^(=CF=80=E2=8B=85i) + 1 =3D 0 --=20 View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Erlang-and-Java-tp29803= 843p29804352.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 06:47:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01628106564A for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 06:47:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7818FC16 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 06:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (dsl253-036-039.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.253.36.39]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 644562968A; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 02:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4C9D9B00.1030103@cyberleo.net> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 01:47:28 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100911 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Torbjorn Granlund References: <867hibxh6t.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> In-Reply-To: <867hibxh6t.fsf@shell.gmplib.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mount order for ZFS, jails, and nullfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 06:47:31 -0000 On 09/24/2010 11:03 AM, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: > ... > Unfortunately, FreeBSD's mount seems unable to perform mounts of ZFS > volumes. Sure, it can: ----8<---- (f84104b2)[root@akisha ~]# zfs create akisha/mnttmp (f84104b2)[root@akisha ~]# touch /zfs/akisha/mnttmp/test (f84104b2)[root@akisha ~]# ls -l /zfs/akisha/mnttmp total 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel - 0 Sep 25 01:39 test (f84104b2)[root@akisha ~]# zfs set mountpoint=legacy akisha/mnttmp (f84104b2)[root@akisha ~]# ls -l /zfs/akisha/mnttmp ls: /zfs/akisha/mnttmp: No such file or directory (f84104b2)[root@akisha ~]# mount -t zfs akisha/mnttmp /mnt/tmp (f84104b2)[root@akisha ~]# ls -l /mnt/tmp total 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel - 0 Sep 25 01:39 test (f84104b2)[root@akisha ~]# umount /mnt/tmp (f84104b2)[root@akisha ~]# ls -l /mnt/tmp total 0 (f84104b2)[root@akisha ~]# ----8<---- On 8.1-RELEASE. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 07:33:04 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151D1106566B for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32BC8FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.143] (helo=smtp12.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzPFm-0007FC-Am for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:33:02 +0200 Received: from 54193b12.cm-5-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([84.25.59.18] helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp12.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzPFk-0001Ib-Om for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:33:00 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222D73983B for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:33:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C9DA5AA.4020606@boosten.org> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:32:58 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C9D0499.3050908@cox.net> <4C9D146C.10009@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C9D146C.10009@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1OzPFk-0001Ib-Om X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.1, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -2.60, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Filesystems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:33:04 -0000 On 24-9-2010 23:13, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 24/09/2010 21:05:45, Derek Funk wrote: >> There was a post some time ago someone was complaining that FreeBSD >> still uses and archaic filesystem and not a new FS like ext4. Some >> replied, seeming like a code contributor, with a very sounded reply. >> What is that reply? > > ZFS > > or words to that effect. Linux has nothing comparable. > http://www.osnews.com/story/23416/Native_ZFS_Port_for_Linux :-) Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 07:38:38 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A44106566B for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CDB8FC14 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8P7cWDM056237 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:38:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C9DA6F0.3000007@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:38:24 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Devin Teske References: <90e6ba4883cb50e1500490c7b441@google.com> <1285373457.15590.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1285373457.15590.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0CC0FC7A1529461ACB9B8D48" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Rick Miller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Adam Vande More Subject: Re: Media Packages Vs. Ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:38:38 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0CC0FC7A1529461ACB9B8D48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/09/2010 01:10:57, Devin Teske wrote: > HINT: If you created the package from the ports tree, you can say "make= > describe" in the package's top-level port directory > (e.g. /usr/ports/pkg_origin/some_pkg). This will produce a line that ca= n > be added to the INDEX file without much modification, if any. Not quite. The make describe output differs from the INDEX entry lines in two important ways: * make describe only includes the immediate dependencies of the port. The INDEX contains the sum, recursively, of the ports dependencies, the dependences of the dependencies, etc. etc. There are some subtleties to do with RUN_DEPENDS or LIB_DEPENDS, compared to BUILD_DEPENDS. * The dependency entries produced in the make describe output are directories in the ports tree, whereas the the INDEX uses the corresponding package names. eg. /usr/ports/www/apache22 vs (at the moment) apache-2.2.16_1 > When sysinstall is in the process of installing the packages, i= t first > makes sure that all the run-dependencies (listed in the INDEX file f= or that > package) are installed. If a package that is listed in the `run-deps= ' field > is not installed, sysinstall installs it before installing the re= quested > package. After installing any dependent packages (recursively), sys= install > then unpacks the requested package and reads its packing-lis= t (the > `+CONTENTS' file within the package tarball). All package depen= dencies > listed inside the package's packing-list MUST be installed before-= hand or > else sysinstall will generate an error. Therefore, all package depen= dencies > that appear in the packing list MUST be present in the `run-deps' f= ield of > the INDEX file. There reverse is not true, however. A dependency may= appear > in the INDEX file and not in the package's packing-list. It's pkg_add(1) that does the dependency chasing in general -- and it doesn't need access to an INDEX file: pkg dependencies are recorded in the pkg file itself, and pkg_add knows how to fetch the dependencies from the same place the original pkg file came from. See pkg_add(1), particulary the description of the '-r' option and the ENVIRONMENT sectio= n. > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > 3. THE FREEBSD INDEX FILE FORMAT >=20 > 3a. FREEBSD-5.2 AND FREEBSD-4.10 OR LOWER >=20 > package|port-origin|install-prefix|comment|port-desc-file|maintai= ner| \=20 > categories|build-deps|run-deps|www-site >=20 > 3b. FREEBSD-5.3 AND FREEBSD-4.11 OR HIGHER >=20 > package|port-origin|install-prefix|comment|port-desc-file|maintai= ner| \=20 > categories|build-deps|run-deps|www-site|unknown|unknown|unknown >=20 > I have never seen the 11th, 12th, or 13th field populated. S= o their > purpose remains unknown. >=20 > 3c. FREEBSD-6.0 OR HIGHER >=20 > package|port-origin|install-prefix|comment|port-desc-file|maintai= ner| \=20 > categories|build-deps|run-deps|www-site|unknown|unknown|unknown|d= isc The unknown fields here are essentially the contents of the following make variables from the port: EXTRACT_DEPENDS PATCH_DEPENDS FETCH_DEPENDS Like the run and build depends, these are expanded to include the sum of all their dependencies. These fields are frequently empty, but they certainly aren't unused: % cut -d '|' -f 11 < INDEX-8 | grep '.' | wc -l 7129 % cut -d '|' -f 12 < INDEX-8 | grep '.' | wc -l 6173 % cut -d '|' -f 13 < INDEX-8 | grep '.' | wc -l 3 (that's out of about 22000 INDEX entries currently) > 6. REFERENCES >=20 > The information in this document is the result of many hours of r= everse- > engineering and testing. Little or no sources on this topic have bee= n found > online. Even when the subject matter was found online, the amo= unt of > information on the topic was anemic. I found the best resource was reading the code of the make-index script, here: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/Tools/make_index You can also look at my ports-mgmt/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex programs which have quite a lot of explanatory commenting. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig0CC0FC7A1529461ACB9B8D48 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkydpvcACgkQ8Mjk52CukIx0MwCdHc7kbyJ2ZJY9fqSSHE3vEeqr OuwAn05DPFAqvG1C3BlB2NxBrq2/w4lA =ORiZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0CC0FC7A1529461ACB9B8D48-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 07:45:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F192A106566C for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD218FC12 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o8P7jLv9056326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:45:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4C9DA891.7030706@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:45:21 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Boosten References: <4C9D0499.3050908@cox.net> <4C9D146C.10009@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4C9DA5AA.4020606@boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <4C9DA5AA.4020606@boosten.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD2773645BF22FD10EAEAF023" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_ADSP_ALL, SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:45:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD2773645BF22FD10EAEAF023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/09/2010 08:32:58, Peter Boosten wrote: > On 24-9-2010 23:13, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 24/09/2010 21:05:45, Derek Funk wrote: >>> There was a post some time ago someone was complaining that FreeBSD >>> still uses and archaic filesystem and not a new FS like ext4. Some >>> replied, seeming like a code contributor, with a very sounded reply. = >>> What is that reply? >> >> ZFS >> >> or words to that effect. Linux has nothing comparable. >> >=20 > http://www.osnews.com/story/23416/Native_ZFS_Port_for_Linux >=20 > :-) Yes. Quoting that very page: "There's still some major work to be done, so this is not production-ready code. The ZFS Posix Layer has not been implemented yet, therefore mounting file systems is not yet possible; direct database access, however, is. Supposedly, KQ Infotech is working on this, but it has been rather quiet around those parts for a while now." What use is a filesystem you can't mount? It might be a work in progress, but it isn't anywhere near done yet. The fact that there is so much enthusiasm for porting the FS despite the license incompatability just underlines the basic contention, that Linux has nothing comparable. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigD2773645BF22FD10EAEAF023 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkydqJEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxYigCdEdHOAXvw2NQ2gAMeRsBTVdzh utwAnjdd3Hugp9IXcR2ColuL+CtXWmfa =LyMK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD2773645BF22FD10EAEAF023-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 08:30:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2065A1065674 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:30:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.w.meyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE47D8FC1A for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn34 with SMTP id 34so3845175iwn.13 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 01:30:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=g6Fu6LTphE+0WLSMxS3gW2yHXSHGmrraIxczXDZ4vkk=; b=qDY1QVOh+LSs7o1AzJz4TWdMAAxpt86/XG0yOBbaYvbSIDMSGWc2IfaoPGKvZhxN+7 w6ttvR2LtmtieWemYiWGNqDqzIL5V/C/2JihjAGFVbrolm/kGwxI8ShDrjfV9y4ksBQz LgrZytI4CmIhz5i59yVJC29M15ga9xKMz8Bes= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:organization:x-mailer:face :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SPGnREkCZ0+mXiyip/dyct6mT+FA3XMjYLS0HJVizlthE2XteWGqTVR9VIxB2hZq0v X5yv/F+Jhu+p3OjkyCudA44oiOnyGT7jY2uNDd+oXcBtoH5LIQVhECWcIqBVLPxucbcs b8apDHU08Tt30Sp5k4PzPTHgA8YKSdj6fQ9BY= Received: by 10.231.31.1 with SMTP id w1mr4830723ibc.162.1285401684751; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 01:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bhuda.mired.org ([74.143.213.42]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i6sm3332976iba.8.2010.09.25.01.01.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 01:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 04:01:18 -0400 From: Mike Meyer To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100925040118.7a020607@bhuda.mired.org> Organization: Meyer Consulting X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Problems mounting nfs from freebsd to Mac. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:30:47 -0000 I've got an nfs server that's refusing to mount one client - via one route - and it's driving me crazy. The server is running 8.1-RELEASE, exporting a collection of zfs file systems. All the file systems are exported with the exact same flags. The clients are either FreeBSD or OSX boxes. Most of them work fine. One OSX box - updated to the latest snow leopard while trying to fix this - gets "permission denied" when it tries to mount the interesting fie systems. But only when using it's wired connection. If it connects via wifi to the same router (a cisco WRT610N running dd-wrt) everything works fine. As far as I know, there are only three reasons for an NFS server to refuse a mount request: 1) The exports file is borked somehow, 2) The server insists that the client use a privileged port, or 3) The IP address the request is coming from is disallowed. #1 isn't it - the file systems mount fine on other boxes. And they mount fine on the problem box via Wifi. #2 shouldn't be it - I'm running the server with -n turned on, and the mount works via wifi. #3 seems logical, but I only have one network enabled, and it's a *.0/25. The working addresses include .96, and .106, while the failing address is .105. So I'm not sure what's going on here. Running mountd with a -d flag generates no output at all when the request is denied. This makes me think I'm not looking in the right place. Relevant entries from rc.conf (nothing really fancy): nfs_server_enable="yes" nfs_server_flags="-u -t -n 4 -h $MY_IP" mountd_enable="yes" mountd_flags="-r -n -h $MY_IP" rpcbind_enable="YES" rpcbind_flags="-h $MY_IP" rpc_lockd_enable="YES" rpc_lockd_flags="-h $MY_IP" rpc_statd_enable="YES" rpc_statd_flags="-h $MY_IP" So, questions: if mountd isn't the issue (though it's issuing the denied messages), what is? Is there some reason I've overlooked for the permissions to be denied? Anything I can do to get more information out of mountd (or whatever is causing the problem)? Any other things I might try? Thanks, http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information. O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org -- Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information. O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 11:48:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79B0106566B for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfunk6@cox.net) Received: from eastrmmtao105.cox.net (eastrmmtao105.cox.net [68.230.240.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8092F8FC1B for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao105.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100925114847.BMHF14030.eastrmmtao105.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:48:47 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([68.0.73.73]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id Azol1f0051asDc402zolCT; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:48:45 -0400 X-VR-Score: -180.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Ve2E6xT+YqPv90BJPa9Z7cy3eVbY/842O+E6p2NWdSs= c=1 sm=1 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=cldQwrSUzPq7T4OJ8kWhDA==:17 a=XQsCswjdAAAA:8 a=ffqntfn1ssL4Pu6pRbQA:9 a=qKOUrZETZVd47kN20PYA:7 a=U9ML7oi1rQiS8Zh-lBgfO7NPEGwA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=cldQwrSUzPq7T4OJ8kWhDA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=dfunk6@cox.net Message-ID: <4C9DE19E.7000802@cox.net> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 06:48:46 -0500 From: Derek Funk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100914 Thunderbird/3.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C9D0499.3050908@cox.net> <4C9D146C.10009@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4C9DA5AA.4020606@boosten.org> <4C9DA891.7030706@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C9DA891.7030706@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100924-1, 09/24/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Filesystems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:48:46 -0000 On 9/25/2010 2:45 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 25/09/2010 08:32:58, Peter Boosten wrote: > >> On 24-9-2010 23:13, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> >>> On 24/09/2010 21:05:45, Derek Funk wrote: >>> >>>> There was a post some time ago someone was complaining that FreeBSD >>>> still uses and archaic filesystem and not a new FS like ext4. Some >>>> replied, seeming like a code contributor, with a very sounded reply. >>>> What is that reply? >>>> >>> ZFS >>> >>> or words to that effect. Linux has nothing comparable. >>> >>> >> http://www.osnews.com/story/23416/Native_ZFS_Port_for_Linux >> >> :-) >> > Yes. Quoting that very page: > > "There's still some major work to be done, so this is not > production-ready code. The ZFS Posix Layer has not been implemented yet, > therefore mounting file systems is not yet possible; direct database > access, however, is. Supposedly, KQ Infotech is working on this, but it > has been rather quiet around those parts for a while now." > > What use is a filesystem you can't mount? It might be a work in > progress, but it isn't anywhere near done yet. The fact that there is > so much enthusiasm for porting the FS despite the license > incompatability just underlines the basic contention, that Linux has > nothing comparable. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > Thank you both for the replies. I think I remember the response from a time ago as he stated something like: FreeBSD primary focus is server mostly Web and Router builds and a newer pooling journalize FS does not fit with FreeBSD's core of being the most stable and reliable while maintaining security. Derek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 12:08:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF2C106566C for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon.otterholm@ide.resurscentrum.se) Received: from mail1.cil.se (mail1.cil.se [217.197.56.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0A38FC18 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:08:46 +0000 (UTC) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:56:40 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Change CPU Thread-Index: ActcqCE5xY7XlsoQQSud6De3bPFazw== From: "Jon Otterholm" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Change CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:08:47 -0000 Hi. =20 I am going to upgrade my CPU on a system that I compiled both world and kernel on. The current CPU is Core i5-670 and I'm changing to Xeon X3470. Will I be able to boot my system or has GCC specific flags for i5 that won't work with X3470? =20 Can I prepare the system in any way to make it boot using the new CPU? =20 //JO From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 12:21:28 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35DF1065673 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:21:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s16.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s16.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D0B8FC18 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP200 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s16.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 05:09:26 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [71.77.39.64] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([71.77.39.64]) by BLU0-SMTP200.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 05:09:25 -0700 Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2C8DAE5480D for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:09:23 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Sep 2010 12:09:25.0466 (UTC) FILETIME=[7EF963A0:01CB5CAA] Subject: Unable to access CDROM device to play music X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:21:28 -0000 I am using FreeBSD 8.1 / amd64 with Platform Version 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) if that matters.Before updating my system to FreeBSD 8.1 / amd64, I had the 7.3 /32 bit version installed. I completely erased the HD prior to installed the newer version so as to eliminate any accumulated garbage that might be hanging around. Previously, I was able to play CD Audio files without any problem. The "cdcontrol" program worked fine and I was able to play music files while using KDE using its audio player. I now find that I can no-longer achieve that goal. When I place an audio CD into the PC, this error message is displayed: (It will probably wrap) Unable to mount Audio Disc DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) This is from the system log: (Sorry, but it will probably line wrap) Sep 25 07:51:22 cyborg kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 Sep 25 07:51:22 cyborg kernel: (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 40 0 Sep 25 07:51:22 cyborg kernel: (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error Sep 25 07:51:22 cyborg kernel: (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition Sep 25 07:51:22 cyborg kernel: (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:64,0 (Illegal mode for this track) Sep 25 07:51:22 cyborg kernel: (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): cddone: got error 0x6 back I am at a loss here. I don't believe I made any radical changes from the configuration I was using in my older FreeBSD installation. I might add that MPlayer cannot see the drive either; although, it use to work fine. This problem exists whether KDE is running or not. The "cdcontrol" player will open and close the door on the device; however, no sound is emitted. Normal 'notification' sounds are emitted so I know the speakers, etc. are working correctly. The KDE start-up notifications works just fine. -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 13:14:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD915106564A for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAFC8FC15 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwd6 with SMTP id 6so2159847qwd.13 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 06:14:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iRbZ4jcb77CQ/cOUqyGnhjmhtBKCp2w1/znUUh8Eh8o=; b=wr5E+UNYvGT8iQ+8B5AZtxps4vOfEgRQIZKxrdTodaTnfs3DcywHle8Kp0it+vmzag RvYjobO0Krir5KkcalmzVu20JjdouaUa9oOMoHA9zN/utXANxH6c/LfrKDWx9p5PTKIx 9j03I+jdZ0HgIThxPs8doR8w1yJf+VJPBlblA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=J5F2cxNg9Wlone3In6X0dTj39LV1lD797mxC8CZEkexnky6AyftPfH0insL0tc2DKL 8rMzs8181jhf59/+Db9VzN1RfAs9maSnktMIMPhRI9k/0d/6VwqCzcWoWgZgxe+UkPXJ dW6qEnWgPRKRkzZdke4M+fpk2/mjchhJ0ZZWQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.168.12 with SMTP id s12mr1772723vcy.240.1285419076764; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 05:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.202.11 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 05:51:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:51:16 +0000 Message-ID: From: Paul B Mahol To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Unable to access CDROM device to play music X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:14:46 -0000 On 9/25/10, Carmel wrote: > I am using FreeBSD 8.1 / amd64 with Platform Version 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) > if that matters.Before updating my system to FreeBSD 8.1 / amd64, I had > the 7.3 /32 bit version installed. I completely erased the HD prior to > installed the newer version so as to eliminate any accumulated garbage > that might be hanging around. Previously, I was able to play CD Audio > files without any problem. The "cdcontrol" program worked fine and I > was able to play music files while using KDE using its audio player. > > I now find that I can no-longer achieve that goal. When I place an audio > CD into the PC, this error message is displayed: (It will probably wrap) > > Unable to mount Audio Disc > DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a > reply (timeout by message bus) > > > This is from the system log: (Sorry, but it will probably line wrap) > > Sep 25 07:51:22 cyborg kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG ILLEGAL REQUEST > asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 > Sep 25 07:51:22 cyborg kernel: (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 > 0 0 40 0 > Sep 25 07:51:22 cyborg kernel: (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status > Error > Sep 25 07:51:22 cyborg kernel: (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check > Condition > Sep 25 07:51:22 cyborg kernel: (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST > asc:64,0 (Illegal mode for this track) > Sep 25 07:51:22 cyborg kernel: (cd0:ata1:0:0:0): cddone: got error 0x6 back > > I am at a loss here. I don't believe I made any radical changes from > the configuration I was using in my older FreeBSD installation. > > I might add that MPlayer cannot see the drive either; although, it use > to work fine. This problem exists whether KDE is running or not. The > "cdcontrol" player will open and close the door on the device; however, > no sound is emitted. Normal 'notification' sounds are emitted so I know > the speakers, etc. are working correctly. The KDE start-up > notifications works just fine. what is mixer output? what sound driver are you using? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 13:59:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B64106564A for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:59:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s16.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s16.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EA08FC21 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP141 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s16.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 06:59:46 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [71.77.39.64] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([71.77.39.64]) by BLU0-SMTP141.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 06:59:45 -0700 Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 15B82E5480D for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:59:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:59:42 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAG1BMVEX3/uPVnZf2/v9ejGkqHB74++H///+cHCT3m6cgqYvfAAACbElEQVQ4jWXTQW/bIBQAYJLJuRMn8TVCss9zTdrrXJ6bHe1Ej/bossF9EpJ3nbapf3sP8JxOQ4qV8OU9HvjBROWcYNlKHtxlQ1/huBaOBiMwQtgHhbokMLIT76Acps5hvy61+6WsjkCZzNEW0+fcQ7Nl5uoPCegjjjhN5/MEABd89k9hXkQoX6cwPIDKCt8tYG5wpmdrxAyuolTPqpiVoEpVCWvl6e00RAD4JBJQnO4lvv0O4Cnd3WUGevYNFohxFYAy7jCCtW39LaQK8BgDAgiHVinVJlCiFKlcqgEHfwb1EuG+DwFGMO3oCIuJIEYoa8KJECBB+UBldgm0MQmEGz7GQr8XYRPKzYNO1zZ8mgdAu4BG5Ke/4KFboM8458UScViAAvYD93OAsu+Bc3zxCU7ZAjT74+dQv9K7oO0d1wuscop48Pc50O5bcVwgGzh/mXzaizJuAWERh8k3eaxKmxu4kV1p2XOEg3i3c8M+EKR93P0D1KATpC55vMHaGqFf5f/AwhlrhHgg8DTezopt6I3o3Qx4q4q6YaPxK8RxcClXeFGhTTS++QR6TS/oBs7l4WhzuNMubZG6hIBkF4qqZVdWczIqSrjKVF/i4o26IP2oElBGFy5CXKSnf6UWDTC6zKSqoAvzsakjjBvdzLKnmxdhY8eRsX7VSCUBdgD1hVJpx6y2OOS1DNDILYmqdWUJ+oHvd0rRvAqX5kpxQMR6yxHzPV6VlPFyWE7LKc36keNQI64gLP8Ybgtmg+zYuBl4fuI8VqW2RqDGE8Uzu7GxGa803whDdxx3bSZbRhfQUSxvmnpLZWpRFqHz7v8AvsBe0S1zv9UAAAAASUVORK5CYII= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MP_/3xpHPy0crUz+Qv1lS=Jgv=k" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Sep 2010 13:59:45.0287 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8B1E970:01CB5CB9] Subject: Re: Unable to access CDROM device to play music X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:59:47 -0000 --MP_/3xpHPy0crUz+Qv1lS=Jgv=k Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:51:16 +0000 Paul B Mahol articulated: > what is mixer output? > what sound driver are you using? =46rom the kernel file: ## SOUND device sound # Install sound driver support device snd_hda # nVidia MCP51 sound driver Via mixer: $ mixer Mixer vol is currently set to 90:90 Mixer pcm is currently set to 42:45 Mixer speaker is currently set to 100:100 Mixer line is currently set to 100:100 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer cd is currently set to 100:100 Mixer mix is currently set to 0:0 Mixer rec is currently set to 75:75 Mixer igain is currently set to 0:0 Recording source: mic Via pciconf -lv hdac0@pci0:3:0:1: class=3D0x040300 card=3D0x00000000 chip=3D0x0be210de rev= =3D0xa1 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'NVIDIA Corporation' class =3D multimedia subclass =3D HDA I attached the "dmesg" output. I don't know if that works on this list or not. I can always supply if separately. What bugs me is that this use to work before I upgraded my system. --=20 Carmel =E2=9C=8C carmel_ny@hotmail.com --MP_/3xpHPy0crUz+Qv1lS=Jgv=k Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dmesg.txt" Copyright (c) 1992-2010 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0: Wed Sep 22 21:21:36 EDT 2010 gerard@cyborg.creedmoor.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CYBORG amd64 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (2009.16-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x40fb2 Family = f Model = 4b Stepping = 2 Features=0x178bfbff Features2=0x2001 AMD Features=0xea500800 AMD Features2=0x1f real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 4084535296 (3895 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, bfef0000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.2 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.4 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.5 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.6 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.7 (no driver attached) pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 pcib3: at device 4.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 vgapci0: port 0xbc00-0xbc7f mem 0xfb000000-0xfbffffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xee000000-0xefffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3 nvidia0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_busmaster vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io nvidia0: [ITHREAD] hdac0: mem 0xfcffc000-0xfcffffff irq 16 at device 0.1 on pci3 hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20100226_0142 hdac0: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 10.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at device 10.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 10.2 (no driver attached) ohci0: mem 0xfe02f000-0xfe02ffff irq 21 at device 11.0 on pci0 ohci0: [ITHREAD] usbus0: on ohci0 ehci0: mem 0xfe02e000-0xfe02e0ff irq 22 at device 11.1 on pci0 ehci0: [ITHREAD] usbus1: EHCI version 1.0 usbus1: on ehci0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xf400-0xf40f at device 13.0 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] atapci1: port 0x9f0-0x9f7,0xbf0-0xbf3,0x970-0x977,0xb70-0xb73,0xe000-0xe00f mem 0xfe02d000-0xfe02dfff irq 23 at device 14.0 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] ata2: on atapci1 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci1 ata3: [ITHREAD] atapci2: port 0x9e0-0x9e7,0xbe0-0xbe3,0x960-0x967,0xb60-0xb63,0xcc00-0xcc0f mem 0xfe02c000-0xfe02cfff irq 20 at device 15.0 on pci0 atapci2: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci2 ata4: [ITHREAD] ata5: on atapci2 ata5: [ITHREAD] pcib4: at device 16.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 pci4: at device 7.0 (no driver attached) fwohci0: port 0x9800-0x987f mem 0xfdcff000-0xfdcff7ff irq 19 at device 9.0 on pci4 fwohci0: [ITHREAD] fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:00:0a:e6:ff:65:1e:1b fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x2554000 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:00:0a:65:1e:1b fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:00:0a:65:1e:1b fwip0: on firewire0 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:00:0a:e6:ff:65:1e:1b @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, maxrec 2048 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: BUS reset fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: node_id=0x00000000, SelfID Count=1, CYCLEMASTER mode hdac1: mem 0xfe024000-0xfe027fff irq 21 at device 16.1 on pci0 hdac1: HDA Driver Revision: 20100226_0142 hdac1: [ITHREAD] nfe0: port 0xc800-0xc807 mem 0xfe02b000-0xfe02bfff irq 22 at device 20.0 on pci0 miibus0: on nfe0 ukphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto nfe0: Ethernet address: 00:19:21:5d:34:de nfe0: [FILTER] amdtemp0: on hostb3 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x73 irq 8 on acpi0 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: does not respond device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 uart0: [FILTER] ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: [ITHREAD] ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 plip0: [ITHREAD] lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: [ITHREAD] lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 orm0: at iomem 0xd0000-0xd3fff,0xd4000-0xd57ff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] powernow0: on cpu0 powernow1: on cpu1 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0 cable IRM irm(0) (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert loadable, nat loadable, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to accept, logging disabled usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 ad0: 238475MB at ata0-master UDMA100 ugen0.1: at usbus0 uhub0: on usbus0 ugen1.1: at usbus1 uhub1: on usbus1 ad1: 238475MB at ata0-slave UDMA133 acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 hdac0: HDA Codec #0: NVidia (Unknown) hdac0: HDA Codec #1: NVidia (Unknown) hdac0: HDA Codec #2: NVidia (Unknown) hdac0: HDA Codec #3: NVidia (Unknown) pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm1: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm2: at cad 2 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm3: at cad 3 nid 1 on hdac0 hdac1: HDA Codec #1: Realtek ALC883 pcm4: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac1 pcm5: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac1 pcm6: at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac1 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Root mount waiting for: usbus1 usbus0 uhub0: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered Root mount waiting for: usbus1 Root mount waiting for: usbus1 Root mount waiting for: usbus1 uhub1: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00 Root mount waiting for: usbus1 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a (probe0:ata1:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:ata1:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:ata1:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:ata1:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) cd0 at ata1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present ugen0.2: at usbus0 ukbd0: on usbus0 kbd2 at ukbd0 ums0: on usbus0 ums0: 5 buttons and [XYZT] coordinates ID=17 ums0: 0 buttons and [ZT] coordinates ID=0 ugen0.3: at usbus0 umass0: on usbus0 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 umass0:2:0:-1: Attached to scbus2 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: NOT READY csi:0,aa,55,40 asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 20 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): SCSI sense: NOT READY csi:0,aa,55,40 asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 1 da1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da1: 1.000MB/s transfers da1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 40 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:2): SCSI sense: NOT READY csi:0,aa,55,40 asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) da2 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 2 da2: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da2: 1.000MB/s transfers da2: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 60 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:3): SCSI sense: NOT READY csi:0,aa,55,40 asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) da3 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 3 da3: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da3: 1.000MB/s transfers da3: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present --MP_/3xpHPy0crUz+Qv1lS=Jgv=k-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 14:28:23 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F22C106566B for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4692B8FC08 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4061 invoked from network); 25 Sep 2010 14:28:22 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 25 Sep 2010 14:28:22 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917145084B for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:28:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6AD701CC3A; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:28:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: FreeBSD References: Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:28:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Carmel's message of "Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:09:23 -0400") Message-ID: <44sk0xaoea.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Unable to access CDROM device to play music X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:28:23 -0000 Carmel writes: > I am using FreeBSD 8.1 / amd64 with Platform Version 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) > if that matters.Before updating my system to FreeBSD 8.1 / amd64, I had > the 7.3 /32 bit version installed. I completely erased the HD prior to > installed the newer version so as to eliminate any accumulated garbage > that might be hanging around. Previously, I was able to play CD Audio > files without any problem. The "cdcontrol" program worked fine and I > was able to play music files while using KDE using its audio player. If X isn't running, what does cdcontrol do? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 14:54:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540E01065672 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jlalarcon@drivehq.com) Received: from mail.drivehq.com (mail.drivehq.com [66.220.9.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4088FC1B for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 76.red-79-147-101.dynamicip.rima-tde.net (79.147.101.76) by win08R2V with SMTP User ID19508442; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:47:05 GMT Message-ID: <20100925144202.GA94018@Endeavour.lordofunix.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) From: jlalarcon@drivehq.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:42:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Gnash version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:54:31 -0000 Hi, folks. 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Sign up free at: http://www.drivehq.com/?refID=3D178949&refEmails=3D&ref= Code=3D. = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 15:44:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B226106564A for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D948A8FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwd6 with SMTP id 6so2229116qwd.13 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:44:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=q0iD8/cLu6s3V9LwoxwHEz6m3/vyd7M7wCnxkpfyciI=; b=sSQ2sH8PzYJBGKUXSpUxY0HQQir+XFNJgMANBC64y9pn77c2j8D3QMoGvOc2iDVbOc YtcsGbUlcZO5yqgY2s6rIpMWb7SpjEh9TnnsXHChGspyDw/I1Jjstv2bW7mvz3Nwp87U u9MW/hatdHoUMpfvlVlhuNBWrZ+wQetW5S7k4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=X9JDX+gP1RBKFzPIn4UtK+zkotrFrBuhEcEyBIT5t32RUKiDQ7INKBuhxmeH4CMjqd X5vSYL8hD+vEokQDIzzqhGh9Q91PiVssm213URVBt1sdkpGo4xiqnOf/5Mk1rw3F2t3d RwzevgKIthYwz3He/4zu3qQ2kjlGrL6fpm+d0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.130.148 with SMTP id t20mr3567797qas.278.1285429447944; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.202.11 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:44:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:44:07 +0000 Message-ID: From: Paul B Mahol To: Jon Otterholm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Change CPU X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:44:09 -0000 On 9/25/10, Jon Otterholm wrote: > Hi. > > > > I am going to upgrade my CPU on a system that I compiled both world and > kernel on. The current CPU is Core i5-670 and I'm changing to Xeon > X3470. Will I be able to boot my system or has GCC specific flags for i5 > that won't work with X3470? > > > > Can I prepare the system in any way to make it boot using the new CPU? If you never used any flags like CPUTYPE or similar you are pretty safe. But some ports/programs override such stuff, for example disabling runtime CPU detection..... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 15:49:08 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081BE106566C for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rrborg-list@thelebowski.com) Received: from mail.thelebowski.com (mail.thelebowski.com [174.136.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56CF8FC16 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.thelebowski.com (mail.thelebowski.com [174.136.106.3]) by mail.thelebowski.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884E5E16D4 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: mail.thelebowski.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.i=@thelebowski.com header.b=UX0u6Yvp; dkim-adsp=pass Received: by mail.thelebowski.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 4B905E16D3; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:30:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=thelebowski.com; s=dkim2010; t=1285428617; bh=ae29h2GjV3cNvnXFWixQJzeS0E0LZQpJepWY4TDTPas=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UX0u6YvpYPiaVaxM9z9URARnNJwV5pHjm50Dqqhw1lWqAh/xFAJV1wojwoj+lImhv soze1asVJbb4p6XweIGRQFrY91LZ9bv2zoRurTNF/MDVBqPQQmWcr1pD+UiqlyZcq5 ZspCNOBT8iV4pvqBXKahqx2rsAXVNQolfniPw6po= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail.thelebowski.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from [192.168.1.141] (c-67-187-169-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.169.218]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.thelebowski.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 88C06E087F for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:30:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=thelebowski.com; s=dkim2010; t=1285428615; bh=ae29h2GjV3cNvnXFWixQJzeS0E0LZQpJepWY4TDTPas=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rLwS1YToQPyYPB9Piy2Bu9kh9fPfwmpZoZ2Rm8CT2MASMHW8wUbMvS7jQb+FXpnM3 OyN4OU2nbU6lC3rcAAq2W5+5eJDtG//5dzgwIv/h4kWZ4FVEGkpc0gKRrVmKYONEXD cL1pvvMWjnvPGE5qo24aCBd1lrEg8EpKkIpz1Il0= Message-ID: <4C9E157C.7030403@thelebowski.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:30:04 -0700 From: Rocky Borg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: jailaudit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 15:49:08 -0000 I've been trying to get jailaudit setup to mail reports daily and I haven't had much luck. It generates reports and I can read them in /usr/local/etc/jailaudit/reports. However when I try # jailaudit mail root@example.com ALL No email is sent (nothing shows up in the maillog). The only time I've gotten it to send anything is doing # jailaudit generate "ALL" | mail root@thelebowski.com However the email just says "Downloading a current audit database: New database installed. Database created: Sat Sep 25 08:05:00 PDT 2010" Which doesn't seem right since the reports should show no vulnerable ports (and for what jail). I've checked the jailaudit website and the usage page seems incorrect. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I would like to not have to install portaudit in each jail. Or if anyone has a better way to handle portaudit with multiple jails I'm open to suggestions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 16:50:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9561D106566B for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2568FC18 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 97-126-31-96.tukw.qwest.net ([97.126.31.96] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzXoJ-0006zW-3S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:41:16 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:50:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:50:02 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100925165001.GA6822@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100925014410.GA23892@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100925014410.GA23892@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: Erlang and Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:50:09 -0000 --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Friday, 24 September 2010: > Does anyone know of a reason that installing lang/erlang would fail if a > java/diablo-jdk port failed to install? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the > Erlang VM really should *not* depend on Java. Right? >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Looking at the Makefile, it appears that WITHOUT_JAVA needs to be defined to avoid a dependency. Looks likle that option is part of the config. make rmconfig make install clean then make sure the first option is unchecked. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMnig5AAoJEIpckszW26+RhUwH/0fepZo4WV7c8ZetCBqGy25i MFfDADKOpbgil1FKmtbkHGO/cMiMYG77VrERudvdxc4qM9wiSSo1Iy5vEe6jWeAs 2CUeeb6JcNOuYDiongq1vD4EUETBSm9Qmlz3OJDH76GfYRcqkwJ6cCmQAFiTPnQF okFxjQB3YZBxeC2fQQUBrySyLBfikf0MHndgot+15xvI8OVgCENfO8O9wZsMVwxI lossc0x2A4dNvsoFT0gjffl4r1ETjqmMyML+kWIsBSkpAmvgEXjyIEtPJ2BT4hYJ 7uksH3L1WGJmpxxXpL8oeVZQcognYlAOQe+9xBCdjmpIOI/BC8pZUG15py9TROE= =EnRs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 17:19:22 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E841065670 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 17:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s25.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s25.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3248FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 17:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP144 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s25.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:19:22 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [71.77.39.64] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([71.77.39.64]) by BLU0-SMTP144.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:19:20 -0700 Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 849DBE5480D for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:19:18 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <44sk0xaoea.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <44sk0xaoea.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Sep 2010 17:19:21.0034 (UTC) FILETIME=[CACBE2A0:01CB5CD5] Subject: Re: Unable to access CDROM device to play music X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 17:19:22 -0000 On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:28:13 -0400 Lowell Gilbert articulated: > If X isn't running, what does cdcontrol do? Nothing. It will open or close the tray, but that is about it. -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 17:32:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606AD106564A for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 17:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EA18FC15 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 17:32:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.141] (helo=smtp10.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzYc7-00072r-Hi; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:32:43 +0200 Received: from 54193b12.cm-5-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([84.25.59.18] helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp10.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzYc5-0004jF-Q9; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:32:41 +0200 Received: from mbp.egypt.nl (mbp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.33]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB3C3983B; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:32:38 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) From: Peter Boosten In-Reply-To: <4C9DA891.7030706@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:32:38 +0200 Message-Id: <6FC7D45F-9B73-4821-B977-AC982BE2D78E@boosten.org> References: <4C9D0499.3050908@cox.net> <4C9D146C.10009@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4C9DA5AA.4020606@boosten.org> <4C9DA891.7030706@infracaninophile.co.uk> To: Matthew Seaman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1OzYc5-0004jF-Q9 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-0.185, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_40 -0.18, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 17:32:45 -0000 On 25 sep 2010, at 09:45, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 25/09/2010 08:32:58, Peter Boosten wrote: >> On 24-9-2010 23:13, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> On 24/09/2010 21:05:45, Derek Funk wrote: >>>> There was a post some time ago someone was complaining that FreeBSD >>>> still uses and archaic filesystem and not a new FS like ext4. Some >>>> replied, seeming like a code contributor, with a very sounded = reply.=20 >>>> What is that reply? >>>=20 >>> ZFS >>>=20 >>> or words to that effect. Linux has nothing comparable. >>>=20 >>=20 >> http://www.osnews.com/story/23416/Native_ZFS_Port_for_Linux >>=20 >> :-) >=20 > Yes. Quoting that very page: >=20 I know... my reply was just to treat the issue lightly. That's what the = smiley was for. Thanks for your reply. --=20 Peter Boosten http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 18:18:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06831065698 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC448FC1D for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o8PIGnnG027025; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:16:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:16:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201009251816.o8PIGnnG027025@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, tg@gmplib.org Cc: Subject: Re: Mount order for ZFS, jails, and nullfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:18:48 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 24 11:02:59 2010 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > From: Torbjorn Granlund > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:03:06 +0200 > Subject: Mount order for ZFS, jails, and nullfs > > In jails, I'd like a local ZFS /, a read-only nullfs-mounted /usr, and a > local /usr/local. (I'd also have read-only nullfs-mounted /bin, /lib, > /libexec, but let's forget about that for now.) > > This way, I can upgrade the master /usr once, in one place, and have all > jails inherit it. And my dear jail inmates can install anything in > /usr/local (such as their favourite packages/ports). > > I.e., things should look like this: > > /myjail/ zfs > /myjail/usr nullfs ro > /myjail/usr/local zfs > > There is no problem to make this happen by issuing a handful of commands > manually after boot, but I cannot seem to get it to work automatically, > with existing boot mechanism. The problem is that the mount of /usr > will be attempted before ZFS has mounted /myjail, the jail's root. > > ZFS maintains its own mount table. It is possible to disable the > automated mounting in ZFS by specifying the pseudo mountpoint "legacy", > and then--according to the FreeBSD manual--mount it with mount(8). > Unfortunately, FreeBSD's mount seems unable to perform mounts of ZFS > volumes. > > How can I achieve the result I want after a reboot? if the traditional way doesn't work for you, the solution is "don't use the traditional way'. Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E40106566B for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC3518FC13 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20039 invoked by uid 0); 25 Sep 2010 19:06:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Sep 2010 19:06:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=SF0q3EJ7c5t2YR1zsngbKrytRLxSiqNq8eLDolsTHU4VgUXwvLwhNohDldA2bPeen9qTtjB6X2c2Oi+ZVFACJHVKO5HtvmmbP2BNA81zaUT9v9LYBa0keAPcBizYx4QH; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oza55-0000lO-PF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:06:45 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:02:39 -0600 Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 13:02:39 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20100925190239.GB27161@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20100925014410.GA23892@guilt.hydra> <20100925165001.GA6822@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100925165001.GA6822@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Erlang and Java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:06:46 -0000 --2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 09:50:02AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Chad Perrin on Friday, 24 September 2010: > > Does anyone know of a reason that installing lang/erlang would fail if a > > java/diablo-jdk port failed to install? Correct me if I'm wrong, but t= he > > Erlang VM really should *not* depend on Java. Right? >=20 > Looking at the Makefile, it appears that WITHOUT_JAVA needs to be > defined to avoid a dependency. >=20 > Looks likle that option is part of the config. >=20 > make rmconfig > make install clean >=20 > then make sure the first option is unchecked. Hmm. This did not come up in any configuration screens when I used portinstall to try installing it, as far as I recall. Annoying. Thanks. It seems to be working now. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkyeR08ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXW3wCZAQ5agBmKv6x+pVBS+8RetdhK 4SMAoJse0rHgGZ0+hwVerCDdp/LlfG4C =fenD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 20:10:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621D81065673 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:10:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@reiteration.net) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C32B8FC19 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from potato.growveg.org ([62.49.247.163]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1Oz7Bx-000540-nw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:15:53 +0000 Message-ID: <4C9C9664.4090700@reiteration.net> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:15:32 +0100 From: John User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 ThunderBrowse/3.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> In-Reply-To: <3368057398-783131724@intranet.com.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: GUI Suggested? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:10:37 -0000 On 23/09/2010 04:29, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Hello all. > > In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell > mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved that way I have never > tried any graphical interface. > > I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on > what path to follow? KDE? any other? > > I would like to test what you suggest is the best for you and if > possible that it is not TOO complicated to setup. The idea is to use it > as my desktop plattfor (documents, browser, email, etc) > > Thanks in advance > > Jorge Biquez Locally, on the desktop I use windowmaker. It's fast, simple and very customisable. Loads of little wm apps to help you along. Thousands of themes, easily themeable. When I need a graphical environment remotely, I tunnel a vnc connection through ssh and the desktop there is blackbox. Simple colours, no eye candy. Reasonably responsive even through an ISDN connection. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 20:15:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD68106564A for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:15:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (ns2.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554B78FC24 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.3/rdb1) id o8PJwLd0027577; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:58:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:58:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <201009251958.o8PJwLd0027577@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: mike.w.meyer@gmail.com, questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: Problems mounting nfs from freebsd to Mac. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:15:16 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Sep 25 03:29:33 2010 > Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 04:01:18 -0400 > From: Mike Meyer > To: questions@freebsd.org > Cc: > Subject: Problems mounting nfs from freebsd to Mac. > > I've got an nfs server that's refusing to mount one client - via one > route - and it's driving me crazy. First question, are you _SURE_ that it's a server-side problem? I under- stand that things are failing in one situation and not others, but there are about -five- possible causations, only one of which is a server-side NFS configuration. > The server is running 8.1-RELEASE, exporting a collection of zfs file > systems. All the file systems are exported with the exact same > flags. The clients are either FreeBSD or OSX boxes. Most of them work > fine. > > One OSX box - updated to the latest snow leopard while trying to fix > this - gets "permission denied" when it tries to mount the interesting > fie systems. But only when using it's wired connection. If it connects > via wifi to the same router (a cisco WRT610N running dd-wrt) > everything works fine. That elimintes NFS on the client, and -most- of the NFS config on the server. > As far as I know, there are only three reasons for an NFS server to > refuse a mount request: 1) The exports file is borked somehow, 2) The > server insists that the client use a privileged port, or 3) The IP > address the request is coming from is disallowed. There _are_ others, depending on how access controls are specified in the exports file. > > #1 isn't it - the file systems mount fine on other boxes. And they > mount fine on the problem box via Wifi. > > #2 shouldn't be it - I'm running the server with -n turned on, and the > mount works via wifi. > > #3 seems logical, but I only have one network enabled, and it's a > *.0/25. The working addresses include .96, and .106, while the failing > address is .105. So I'm not sure what's going on here. > > Running mountd with a -d flag generates no output at all when the > request is denied. This makes me think I'm not looking in the right > place. First thing, what does 'showmount -a', run on the misbehaving client show? And are there differences, depending on being on the wired vs wireless link? Check how the client resolves the server hostname on both the wireless and wired links. make sure the _server_ name (in the form used in the nfs mount) is resolving in the same way -- to the same address -- when the client is on thee wireless and wired links. (an 'unqualified' hostname, and a lack of a default domain in the wired setup _could_ cause what you are seeing. Check to make sure you've got network connectivity both ways on both the wired and wireless links. Does traceroute work in both directions on both links? does it show the _same_names_? You've say you've got a WRT610N in the middle of things. Is it actually playing _router_ on all ports, or switch/hub on the lan side with routing on the external interface. If it's actually -routing- on all ports, check _both_ the client and server routing tables to make sure they're pointing in the right plac, when the client is connected on both paths. Also double-check the router itself for any access-control and/or filtering rules. If nothing has shown up so far, an obvious next step is to look at the data 'on the wire' between the machines. e.g., tcpdump/etherfind/netshark etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 20:31:41 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F271A106566B for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B253E8FC0C for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-219-100.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.219.100]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08AC3CF42; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:31:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8PKVdVG001566; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:31:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:31:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Message-Id: <20100925223139.e6c94aa4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Carmel Subject: Re: Unable to access CDROM device to play music X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:31:42 -0000 On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:09:23 -0400, Carmel wrote: > I am using FreeBSD 8.1 / amd64 with Platform Version 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) > if that matters.Before updating my system to FreeBSD 8.1 / amd64, I had > the 7.3 /32 bit version installed. I completely erased the HD prior to > installed the newer version so as to eliminate any accumulated garbage > that might be hanging around. Previously, I was able to play CD Audio > files without any problem. The "cdcontrol" program worked fine and I > was able to play music files while using KDE using its audio player. > > I now find that I can no-longer achieve that goal. When I place an audio > CD into the PC, this error message is displayed: (It will probably wrap) > > Unable to mount Audio Disc > DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: > Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) You cannot mount audio CDs. The important lines from your system log are: acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 SCSI status: Check Condition SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:64,0 (Illegal mode for this track) This seems to indicate that the CD cannot be read. Can it be read with a different drive? Maybe the drive is faulty. Or the media is. Can you check the media in a "hardware CD player"? > I am at a loss here. I don't believe I made any radical changes from > the configuration I was using in my older FreeBSD installation. First of all, HAL seems to be interfering. To check, make sure HAL is not running, then do "cdcontrol play 1". Have the "mixer" program push all volumes up. > I might add that MPlayer cannot see the drive either; although, it use > to work fine. In how far does mplayer "see a drive"? > This problem exists whether KDE is running or not. The > "cdcontrol" player will open and close the door on the device; however, > no sound is emitted. Does the drive have a phones connector at the front? Does it maybe play from there? Playing audio CDs is a feature of drives that does not neccessarily need CPU / system attention (except for starting the playback by a drive command). Are you accessing the drive by ATAPI or ATAPICAM? > Normal 'notification' sounds are emitted so I know > the speakers, etc. are working correctly. The KDE start-up > notifications works just fine. So no problem on this side. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 21:26:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E94E1065670 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:26:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glimp@live.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s5.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s5.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D32F8FC18 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP215 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s5.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:26:15 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [151.49.230.20] X-Originating-Email: [glimp@live.com] Message-ID: Received: from genki.collidiamo.net ([151.49.230.20]) by BLU0-SMTP215.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:26:14 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:21:29 +0200 From: dan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100920 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20100925223139.e6c94aa4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20100925223139.e6c94aa4.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Sep 2010 21:26:14.0867 (UTC) FILETIME=[48876A30:01CB5CF8] Subject: Re: Unable to access CDROM device to play music X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:26:16 -0000 On 25.09.2010 22:31, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:09:23 -0400, Carmel wrote: >> I am using FreeBSD 8.1 / amd64 with Platform Version 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) >> if that matters.Before updating my system to FreeBSD 8.1 / amd64, I had >> the 7.3 /32 bit version installed. I completely erased the HD prior to >> installed the newer version so as to eliminate any accumulated garbage >> that might be hanging around. Previously, I was able to play CD Audio >> files without any problem. The "cdcontrol" program worked fine and I >> was able to play music files while using KDE using its audio player. >> >> I now find that I can no-longer achieve that goal. When I place an audio >> CD into the PC, this error message is displayed: (It will probably wrap) >> >> Unable to mount Audio Disc >> DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: >> Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) > > You cannot mount audio CDs. > > The important lines from your system log are: > > acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 > SCSI status: Check Condition > SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:64,0 (Illegal mode for this track) > > This seems to indicate that the CD cannot be read. Can it be read > with a different drive? Maybe the drive is faulty. Or the media > is. Can you check the media in a "hardware CD player"? > > > >> I am at a loss here. I don't believe I made any radical changes from >> the configuration I was using in my older FreeBSD installation. > > First of all, HAL seems to be interfering. To check, make sure HAL > is not running, then do "cdcontrol play 1". Have the "mixer" program > push all volumes up. > > > >> I might add that MPlayer cannot see the drive either; although, it use >> to work fine. > > In how far does mplayer "see a drive"? > > > >> This problem exists whether KDE is running or not. The >> "cdcontrol" player will open and close the door on the device; however, >> no sound is emitted. > > Does the drive have a phones connector at the front? Does it maybe > play from there? Playing audio CDs is a feature of drives that does > not neccessarily need CPU / system attention (except for starting > the playback by a drive command). > > Are you accessing the drive by ATAPI or ATAPICAM? > > > >> Normal 'notification' sounds are emitted so I know >> the speakers, etc. are working correctly. The KDE start-up >> notifications works just fine. > > So no problem on this side. > > > If you are accessing ATAPI device using the SCSI subsystem make sure the user has all the required permissions to read/write xpt* pass* cd*. Run "camcontrol devlist" as a normal user and see if it shows you any drive (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/creating-cds.html Section 18.6.9). If this matters somehow I get many of the following messages (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 2 99 77 0 0 1 0 (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST csi:28,a,1,20 asc:64,0 (Illegal mode for this track) (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): cddone: got error 0x6 back (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 20 0 0 4 0 (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (cd0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (...) when an audio cd is pre-loaded at bootup into my external dvd rewriter. But the drive is functional (or at least seems to be... :-D). d From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 21:32:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A45106566C for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s32.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s32.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0508FC13 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP128 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s32.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:32:31 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [71.77.39.64] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([71.77.39.64]) by BLU0-SMTP128.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:32:29 -0700 Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8F83DE5480D for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 17:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 17:32:27 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Sep 2010 21:32:29.0828 (UTC) FILETIME=[2805EC40:01CB5CF9] Subject: Re: Unable to access CDROM device to play music X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:32:32 -0000 On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:31:39 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:09:23 -0400, Carmel > wrote: > > I am using FreeBSD 8.1 / amd64 with Platform Version 4.5.1 (KDE > > 4.5.1) if that matters.Before updating my system to FreeBSD 8.1 / > > amd64, I had the 7.3 /32 bit version installed. I completely erased > > the HD prior to installed the newer version so as to eliminate any > > accumulated garbage that might be hanging around. Previously, I was > > able to play CD Audio files without any problem. The "cdcontrol" > > program worked fine and I was able to play music files while using > > KDE using its audio player. > > > > I now find that I can no-longer achieve that goal. When I place an > > audio CD into the PC, this error message is displayed: (It will > > probably wrap) > > > > Unable to mount Audio Disc > > DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: > > Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) > > You cannot mount audio CDs. > > The important lines from your system log are: > > acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 > SCSI status: Check Condition > SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:64,0 (Illegal mode for this track) > > This seems to indicate that the CD cannot be read. Can it be read > with a different drive? Maybe the drive is faulty. Or the media > is. Can you check the media in a "hardware CD player"? I have tries several different disks, all with the same results. These CDs work fine on my Windows machines. I used information at URL: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/creating-cds.html 18.6.9 Using the ATAPI/CAM Driver This worked fine on my previous version of FreeBSD. Now, entering the command: mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /mnt Gets me this error message: mount_cd9660: /dev/cd0: Input/output error > > I am at a loss here. I don't believe I made any radical changes from > > the configuration I was using in my older FreeBSD installation. > > First of all, HAL seems to be interfering. To check, make sure HAL > is not running, then do "cdcontrol play 1". Have the "mixer" program > push all volumes up. > > > I might add that MPlayer cannot see the drive either; although, it > > use to work fine. > > In how far does mplayer "see a drive"? MPlayer cannot play a file from a CD because it never finds a CD to use. It did work previously. > > This problem exists whether KDE is running or not. The > > "cdcontrol" player will open and close the door on the device; > > however, no sound is emitted. > > Does the drive have a phones connector at the front? Does it maybe > play from there? Playing audio CDs is a feature of drives that does > not neccessarily need CPU / system attention (except for starting > the playback by a drive command). > > Are you accessing the drive by ATAPI or ATAPICAM? ATAPICAM > > Normal 'notification' sounds are emitted so I know > > the speakers, etc. are working correctly. The KDE start-up > > notifications works just fine. > > So no problem on this side. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 22:49:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6401B106566C for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24AC08FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:49:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-219-100.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.219.100]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31753D544; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 00:49:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o8PMnGfl001880; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 00:49:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 00:49:16 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Message-Id: <20100926004916.dc8523ad.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Carmel Subject: Re: Unable to access CDROM device to play music X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:49:19 -0000 On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 17:32:27 -0400, Carmel wrote: > I have tries several different disks, all with the same results. These > CDs work fine on my Windows machines. > > I used information at URL: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/creating-cds.html > > 18.6.9 Using the ATAPI/CAM Driver > > This worked fine on my previous version of FreeBSD. I'm also using this setup for many years now. > Now, entering the > command: > > mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /mnt > > Gets me this error message: > > mount_cd9660: /dev/cd0: Input/output error Does this refer to an audio CD? In that case: Won't work. Mounting a data CD (ISO-9660 filesystem) _should_ work. From the error message, I don't think you have permission problems, but make sure that - as you're using ATAPICAM - have sufficient permissions for /dev/cd*, /dev/xpt* and /dev/pass*. Have you tried mounting using the ATAPI driver? # mount -o ro -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /mnt Does this work for data CDs? > MPlayer cannot play a file from a CD because it never finds a CD to > use. It did work previously. Okay, seems that you're accessing the audio CD by mplayer, I now understand. You can specify -dvd-device as a command line parameter for mplayer to indicate which drive to use. Oh, and many programs use $CDROM and $CDPLAYER environment variables. > > Are you accessing the drive by ATAPI or ATAPICAM? > > ATAPICAM To make sure there are no other problems, try with ATAPI, too, as shown above. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 25 23:46:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDE3106564A for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s36.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s36.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8C88FC15 for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP104 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s36.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:46:11 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [71.77.39.64] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([71.77.39.64]) by BLU0-SMTP104.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 25 Sep 2010 16:46:10 -0700 Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1447CE5480D for ; Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:46:08 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Sep 2010 23:46:10.0307 (UTC) FILETIME=[D499E530:01CB5D0B] Subject: Re: Unable to access CDROM device to play music X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:46:12 -0000 On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 00:49:16 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > Have you tried mounting using the ATAPI driver? > > # mount -o ro -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /mnt > > Does this work for data CDs? I get this error message: mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: Invalid argument -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com