From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 06:30:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD101065672 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 06:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A730A8FC08 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 06:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yib19 with SMTP id 19so2177442yib.13 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:30:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=m7/neoXAtGHo5p96NkPjpeBNH4ZAPapWvBoVxNoJ6NQ=; b=Rf1A05FYZb/dqKSAPiJjjnoBkcAu03tYUG8vm5Z6+CK5lFvx6g9ZRPVWy7Ow2X5/++ Sr8Cdk/6xMFTU2L6WYPaiFVBuUlTzHrwj8BcAKmRdwnj6ngo132KDhg0WPPywXHxxumv qLm8p7HEPjUdt5Zx9LFXg3lTj7l33uFpQWH/o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.47.206 with SMTP id o14mr1041761ibf.58.1315722632761; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:30:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4e6c507d.ANMQux1SNU952XnX%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4E6B1AF5.7090900@tomse.dk> <4E6B227B.5050708@FreeBSD.org> <4E6B77EE.6030509@gmx.de> <20110910171530.GC23457@guilt.hydra> <4e6c507d.ANMQux1SNU952XnX%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 07:30:32 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: HuleiBhN3s2Fwp7WKXczkNtU1Y0 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: wblock@wonkity.com, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 06:30:34 -0000 On 11 Sep 2011 00:14, wrote: > > Chris Rees wrote: > > > cvsweb can also be used to find the day the port was deleted. > > Shouldn't that date be available in the MOVED entry? > Hm, indeed, and creative use of read and expr could automate that. Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 09:01:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAED106566C for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:01:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8508FC15 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:14f9:cfdf:caf2:2c18]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BC5EA4AC31; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:01:37 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:01:31 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <99834116.20110911130131@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <4e6c4fc7.M6OsWGol0SLyr/IR%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <765103585.20110909143052@serebryakov.spb.ru> <20110909130458.GO31003@azathoth.lan> <4e6b6e3d.58E89hPS0974IMyM%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20110910071532.GA68847@over-yonder.net> <4e6c4fc7.M6OsWGol0SLyr/IR%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD-Ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket direct support. X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:01:43 -0000 Hello, Perryh. You wrote 11 =F1=E5=ED=F2=FF=E1=F0=FF 2011 =E3., 10:05:59: > I can't address the non-specific "etc", but I would claim that each > of those 3 specific examples is a VCS bug. Creating a tarball of a > particular content set _should_ be a deterministic process: Once again: gzip, for example, has "timestamp" field in header. Try this locally, without any [D]VCS: % mkdir test && echo "one" > test/one.txt && echo "two" > test/two.txt % tar czf test1.tar.gz test && sleep 5 && tar czf test2.tar.gz test % md5 test1.tar.gz test2.tar.gz MD5 (test1.tar.gz) =3D 7b7c763a9d1d4edca7b5b415ab297fec MD5 (test2.tar.gz) =3D 703ac5387b2bd1146434516f1d761ed9 % gzip -d test1.tar.gz test2.tar.gz % md5 test1.tar test2.tar MD5 (test1.tar) =3D 0ba33aa8ff6bffeeeb2d96efc38eec85 MD5 (test2.tar) =3D 0ba33aa8ff6bffeeeb2d96efc38eec85 % --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 04:52:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1F3106566C; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 04:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Juergen.Dankoweit@T-Online.de) Received: from mailout09.t-online.de (mailout09.t-online.de [194.25.134.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FF08FC12; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 04:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de (fwd06.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout09.t-online.de with smtp id 1R2Owo-0007XA-9M; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:54:22 +0200 Received: from t43.juergendankoweit.net (VmF1AUZEwhCdrEVl6h+uUNG1-dGwRZpITzBgRtFIU6Sf7KRgyvyedVQYFt-Y1f5Z+j@[91.55.225.59]) by fwd06.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1R2Own-0dUiWG0; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:54:21 +0200 Message-ID: <4E6B7A1C.5050800@T-Online.de> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:54:20 +0200 From: Juergen Dankoweit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de-DE; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110817 Fedora/3.1.12-1.fc14 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: clsung@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ID: VmF1AUZEwhCdrEVl6h+uUNG1-dGwRZpITzBgRtFIU6Sf7KRgyvyedVQYFt-Y1f5Z+j X-TOI-MSGID: a20496dc-4b09-41be-bda6-13863fede062 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 11:23:56 +0000 Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD Port: clamsmtp-1.10_3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 04:52:19 -0000 Hello clsung, sorry that I don't know your right name, so I used prefix of your email address. I want to tell you that the download address of clamsmtp has changed. It is now http://thewalter.net/stef/software/clamsmtp/clamsmtp-1.10.tar.gz and not http://memberwebs.com/stef/software/clamsmtp/clamsmtp-1.10.tar.gz Best regards and thanks for porting Juergen From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 12:49:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5DD106566B for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byshenknet@byshenk.net) Received: from portland.byshenk.net (portland.byshenk.net [69.168.53.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372958FC1C for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:49:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from portland.byshenk.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by portland.byshenk.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8BCnAYJ036064 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 05:49:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from byshenknet@portland.byshenk.net) Received: (from byshenknet@localhost) by portland.byshenk.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p8BCnARW036063 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 05:49:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from byshenknet) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 05:49:10 -0700 From: Greg Byshenk To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110911124910.GK13219@portland.byshenk.net> References: <4E6B1AF5.7090900@tomse.dk> <4E6B227B.5050708@FreeBSD.org> <4E6B77EE.6030509@gmx.de> <20110910171530.GC23457@guilt.hydra> <20110910190549.GA23971@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110910190549.GA23971@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on portland.byshenk.net Subject: Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:49:50 -0000 On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 01:05:49PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 06:48:30PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: > > On 10 September 2011 18:15, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 04:45:02PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > > >> > > >> I want to make installing dead ports harder for users. > > > > > > Why? > > > > Someone who wants to install a port that has been deprecated and > > removed should really have enough skills to check a port out of the > > Attic at least-- it's one command line. I don't see how much simpler > > it could get: > > This does not answer my question. I find the very concept of wanting to > make it harder for a user to install software bizarre. I could > understand wanting to achieve some other goal, and suffering the > unfortunate case of making it harder to install something, but I do not > understand the simple fact of wanting to make life harder for others, > unless it is a matter of pure spite. Thus my question: > > Why? Because, in the cases here under discussion, there is somethin "wrong" (for some value of 'wrong') with the software in question. I can't speak for Matthias or Chris, but I think the point here is that (at least some) people don't want to make foot-shooting easier. Someone who can't figure out how to install some software if it takes more than 'portinstall ' almost certainly isn't knowledgeable enough to evaluate the risks of installing buggy, exploitable, or unmaintained software. -- greg byshenk - gbyshenk@byshenk.net - Leiden, NL From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 13:41:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59033106564A for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c-s@c-s.li) Received: from mail.319.ch (319.ch [88.198.108.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CFE8FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.319.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9238318CCFB for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:23:19 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=c-s.li; s=default; t=1315747399; bh=sD5nYlYEYrHRuo33vQbGl9z5hhhzof4kpIXw83KHqww=; h=Subject:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date: Message-ID:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TfkpQs4zrzJfCeAs55uVMvRAETD+sW2JO8nXlCLEY0z10MqGbLbAk8I3k9C5sAkpX aRoJLGHbBXl53n1+wOwy/pbNRWVrPMpnxnBFUrlAtUbKfFaTeCRje43uwHFvpFrHOV +gyHoBi04zYC5QnMgzGqRFDAMa5d1R5djGxXV+5c= Received: from mail.319.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (maia.319.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 53363-08 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:23:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.31] (pool-71-185-18-250.phlapa.east.verizon.net [71.185.18.250]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: c-s@c-s.li) by mail.319.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 58B7718CC47 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:23:18 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=c-s.li; s=default; t=1315747398; bh=sD5nYlYEYrHRuo33vQbGl9z5hhhzof4kpIXw83KHqww=; h=Subject:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date: Message-ID:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=I9vixf5DUfhOHAXyQo1+nSOrQi5G6Z33M0G9RhILuONMnUSfDDzh+5uT9Sqrmhke/ /+LCqzvrFbSdqeBZBWFQlc95HOTP3k8JkcTNDgvIbwwedwzoZsvwAddQJQMrS4NRtL A9D+4eC+aBvNbCUQ96whgfVV5OvYUgzC7azkWABw= From: C-S To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20110911120036.583A310656A9@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20110911120036.583A310656A9@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:23:16 -0400 Message-ID: <1315747396.3046.6.camel@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:41:13 -0000 >Sure it worth. From my POV, maintainer should be avoided the pleasure to > mess with selfhosted and selfpackaged tarballs as much as possible. > Besides of inconvenience it also less reliable (both in availability and > security aspects). > > > I'm perfectly happy to mirror anything if needed, by the way. > > > > Chris > Selfhosting can be very helpful. I once had many downloads of hiawatha from my server in my logs. So, I checked the hashes and discovered that the distfile from the original homepage was not the same anymore. The author of hiawatha had changed the file without any announcements... Carlo From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 14:35:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A656106566C for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA08A8FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:35:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8BEZPsa010215; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 08:35:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p8BEZOG0010212; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 08:35:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 08:35:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Greg Byshenk In-Reply-To: <20110911124910.GK13219@portland.byshenk.net> Message-ID: References: <4E6B1AF5.7090900@tomse.dk> <4E6B227B.5050708@FreeBSD.org> <4E6B77EE.6030509@gmx.de> <20110910171530.GC23457@guilt.hydra> <20110910190549.GA23971@guilt.hydra> <20110911124910.GK13219@portland.byshenk.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 11 Sep 2011 08:35:25 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:35:34 -0000 On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, Greg Byshenk wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 01:05:49PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: >> >> Why? > > Because, in the cases here under discussion, there is somethin "wrong" > (for some value of 'wrong') with the software in question. I can't > speak for Matthias or Chris, but I think the point here is that (at > least some) people don't want to make foot-shooting easier. Slippery slope: consider PHP, or Apache, or any MTA. Or newfs. > Someone who can't figure out how to install some software if it takes > more than 'portinstall ' almost certainly isn't knowledgeable > enough to evaluate the risks of installing buggy, exploitable, or > unmaintained software. The ports system and FreeBSD in general are not capable of accurately assessing a user's abilities or situation. Informing the user of problems with a port is certainly within the scope of the ports system, or a hypothetical "bring back a removed port" tool. But the responsibility for the installation and use of any software is all on the informed user. The difficulty or ease of bringing back a removed port does not change that. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 14:46:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B521065670 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f49.google.com (mail-gw0-f49.google.com [74.125.83.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F21C8FC1F for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:46:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb1 with SMTP id 1so3429309gwb.36 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 07:46:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JuQnfoK4Oa13arbe8Tq4LhF0t79PKcyiO3FtEKTOe7Y=; b=FFUCoD5pG69ejY20dVGVIzFZhwOHZOn2lLijD0VCu/Kwpm42+Ocrf0QyRkad3i17yo HlLGlomwkKrmyPWNjoDuawLhbJY7NAM8mALfHO4J0cEiBsMmFxz4heqAEDGzwT6840Se psp3lauahtMXGkBlgLfsbrnaP9o3val55ugxE= Received: by 10.43.132.130 with SMTP id hu2mr486850icc.352.1315752408094; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 07:46:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 07:46:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E6B1AF5.7090900@tomse.dk> <4E6B227B.5050708@FreeBSD.org> <4E6B77EE.6030509@gmx.de> <20110910171530.GC23457@guilt.hydra> <20110910190549.GA23971@guilt.hydra> <20110911124910.GK13219@portland.byshenk.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:46:18 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5qcsAN5SPBZUi5vdt09JDoKONV0 Message-ID: To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Greg Byshenk Subject: Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:46:49 -0000 On 11 September 2011 15:35, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, Greg Byshenk wrote: >> >> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 01:05:49PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: >>> >>> Why? >> >> Because, in the cases here under discussion, there is somethin "wrong" >> (for some value of 'wrong') with the software in question. =A0I can't >> speak for Matthias or Chris, but I think the point here is that (at >> least some) people don't want to make foot-shooting easier. > > Slippery slope: consider PHP, or Apache, or any MTA. =A0Or newfs. No. PHP, Apache and the MTAs are maintained. Newfs is not buggy. Straw men are the tool of someone who has no more valid points to make, remember that. Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 17:09:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575761065673 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125528FC13 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R2nXB-0000Wy-Pv for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:09:33 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R2nXB-00041g-MI for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:09:33 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8BH9Xf7005356 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:09:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p8BH9XKB005355 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:09:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:09:33 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <20110911170933.GA5144@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <4E6B1AF5.7090900@tomse.dk> <4E6BB6EE.4030109@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E6BB6EE.4030109@yandex.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:09:35 -0000 Just a case study. I was updating today, turns out print/mgv was deleted, so I switched to print/gv. The end. The current port deletion policy needs no change. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 19:50:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C168106564A for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvs-src@yandex.ru) Received: from forward16.mail.yandex.net (forward16.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB228FC12 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp16.mail.yandex.net (smtp16.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.16]) by forward16.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 73DF5D4195B; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:50:30 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1315770630; bh=CYHB7Fnm2q7oA41csMnD5HB+MTFLDttZ69yvHI8vH0w=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rjfuhT0LHTTCDudZRxEa7wbsTgCMgMZKKvjoRWbHtTSSe5TC2iE7JUBXhKiZy/82o q34HysKegvM2EZbDeaCNRarGAhAiAz0FIcZzPvacnT+w3VmMIGUItS80HB2cXjcIbq SnS88/RjZONmGqfdCcuAB91fI7fG13Ai/aR8YnYE= Received: from smtp16.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp16.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5E76B6A02A9; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:50:30 +0400 (MSD) Received: from unknown (unknown [213.138.88.133]) by smtp16.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id oTZitdds-oTZKPN4L; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:50:30 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Message-ID: <4E6D10F9.9080805@yandex.ru> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:50:17 +0400 From: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110828 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: C-S References: <20110911120036.583A310656A9@hub.freebsd.org> <1315747396.3046.6.camel@laptop> In-Reply-To: <1315747396.3046.6.camel@laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:50:32 -0000 C-S wrote on 11.09.2011 17:23: >> Sure it worth. From my POV, maintainer should be avoided the pleasure to >> mess with selfhosted and selfpackaged tarballs as much as possible. >> Besides of inconvenience it also less reliable (both in availability and >> security aspects). >> >>> I'm perfectly happy to mirror anything if needed, by the way. >>> >>> Chris >> > > Selfhosting can be very helpful. I once had many downloads of hiawatha > from my server in my logs. So, I checked the hashes and discovered that > the distfile from the original homepage was not the same anymore. The > author of hiawatha had changed the file without any announcements... > > Carlo We will see that anyway - when user will try to extract changed distfile, he will get warning about incorrect checksum, so this is not the case, i believe. -- Regards, Ruslan Tinderboxing kills... the drives. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 19:52:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074BA106566B for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvs-src@yandex.ru) Received: from forward16.mail.yandex.net (forward16.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD55F8FC14 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (smtp17.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.17]) by forward16.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A5128D40D41; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:52:16 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1315770736; bh=xMLej3KQqGk+WNIXJBNq4tyUbHTsEGG5ec9qp+Po3xU=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Mmpphw7u6hkFJOZwiqxspLwU1AaQNDSYCnWVMUN9Ob7qlhpbbpH2ZnczOrT0pjdxD lzy/sobWkpddN4JdptfgMs31Iqlwc2A49+a6iR0dJChEqfCEZXuQyiFnnLTp7NNtoO S7bW7kpAhecGZubj8CRBAX4Dbe8bBD8ATh/0pXlc= Received: from smtp17.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 928B31900257; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:52:16 +0400 (MSD) Received: from unknown (unknown [213.138.88.133]) by smtp17.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id qFNWS4Ds-qGNWEXMm; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:52:16 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Message-ID: <4E6D1163.8030207@yandex.ru> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:52:03 +0400 From: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110828 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: C-S References: <20110911120036.583A310656A9@hub.freebsd.org> <1315747396.3046.6.camel@laptop> <4E6D10F9.9080805@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <4E6D10F9.9080805@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:52:18 -0000 Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote on 11.09.2011 23:50: > > We will see that anyway - when user will try to extract changed > distfile, he will get warning about incorrect checksum, so this is not > the case, i believe. s/warning/error/g this error will stops the build. -- Regards, Ruslan Tinderboxing kills... the drives. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 19:56:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D86106566C for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:56:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c-s@c-s.li) Received: from mail.319.ch (319.ch [88.198.108.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4B48FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.319.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EFC18CCFB; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:56:50 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=c-s.li; s=default; t=1315771010; bh=dHRTZIa3Gzh2pUcAxX3qc5+uumc/KhyGhvWWIFazUgY=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date: Message-ID:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EJdeQSEFFIT/fZJB6Ar3+OHSVO0cQ94k+FQRhzIlJDeuvYl3F0CmzaCKGmhkbcBjA arGyRVKW/Ps2A1ZuA35sssce7cKbb2lEag1OAKzp/yGqY3VinTbeun7i97uG2410+b I6TzeIf5cR08V5GJJJvIU49hyPrxVeVvr2/8l8IY= Received: from mail.319.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (maia.319.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 67188-04; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:56:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.31] (pool-71-185-18-250.phlapa.east.verizon.net [71.185.18.250]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: c-s@c-s.li) by mail.319.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57F2218CC47; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:56:44 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=c-s.li; s=default; t=1315771005; bh=dHRTZIa3Gzh2pUcAxX3qc5+uumc/KhyGhvWWIFazUgY=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date: Message-ID:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AXMqfsbUUcisVWfUJjopnt+cc7V3bRIAvaHH/6oZNzmovhzYh8uSGpPOb7fKedqND I0z+BQvg0ZR3RvAjp2aYkKjBjOjnEhp/RI1/hPMKrIe5OnLctnCfggLTHEjMQWdDwt b3CbxVnmj3MnqFMqQSyUCtdotMeZnefBuiqPlMv4= From: C-S To: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov In-Reply-To: <4E6D1163.8030207@yandex.ru> References: <20110911120036.583A310656A9@hub.freebsd.org> <1315747396.3046.6.camel@laptop> <4E6D10F9.9080805@yandex.ru> <4E6D1163.8030207@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:56:42 -0400 Message-ID: <1315771002.6556.1.camel@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:56:51 -0000 On Sun, 2011-09-11 at 23:52 +0400, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: > Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote on 11.09.2011 23:50: > > > > We will see that anyway - when user will try to extract changed > > distfile, he will get warning about incorrect checksum, so this is not > > the case, i believe. > > s/warning/error/g > > this error will stops the build. > Of course. I am not worried about the user, but from a maintainer's point of view it is helpful to get informed about that. Unless you check all your port's distfile hashes all the time it takes some time to discover if you have a bad mirror (and all other mirrors being fine). From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 20:01:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5041065675; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amdmi3@amdmi3.ru) Received: from smtp.timeweb.ru (smtp.timeweb.ru [92.53.116.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CB08FC17; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [213.148.20.85] (helo=hive.panopticon) by smtp.timeweb.ru with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R2qD8-0002Ll-Kg; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:01:02 +0400 Received: from hades.panopticon (hades.panopticon [192.168.0.32]) by hive.panopticon (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C65BB84D; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:00:58 +0400 (MSD) Received: by hades.panopticon (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 231D0B846; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:00:58 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:00:58 +0400 From: Dmitry Marakasov To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110911200057.GA1934@hades.panopticon> References: <20110907032718.GJ42123@hades.panopticon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110907032718.GJ42123@hades.panopticon> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: stas@FreeBSD.org, kde@FreeBSD.org, python@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: LDFLAGS support for bsd.port.mk and CPPFLAGS/LDFLAGS cleanup X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:01:05 -0000 * Dmitry Marakasov (amdmi3@amdmi3.ru) wrote: The patch is ready: http://people.freebsd.org/~amdmi3/ldflags.patch While it's mostly a bunch of similar changes, I'd like community eyes on specific important parts, namely Mk/ changes, python and ruby and generally all := assigns of *FLAGS, as these are dangerous (may refer variables which were not yet defined or which are changed later. However, I don't see any other way to prepend values instead of appending). -- Dmitry Marakasov . 55B5 0596 FF1E 8D84 5F56 9510 D35A 80DD F9D2 F77D amdmi3@amdmi3.ru ..: jabber: amdmi3@jabber.ru http://www.amdmi3.ru From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 20:35:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385451065670; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A062B8FC15; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:35:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8BKZlcr011142; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:35:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p8BKZlM7011139; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:35:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:35:47 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Chris Rees In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4E6B1AF5.7090900@tomse.dk> <4E6B227B.5050708@FreeBSD.org> <4E6B77EE.6030509@gmx.de> <20110910171530.GC23457@guilt.hydra> <20110910190549.GA23971@guilt.hydra> <20110911124910.GK13219@portland.byshenk.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-902635197-1833353319-1315773347=:10961" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:35:47 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Greg Byshenk Subject: Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:35:56 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---902635197-1833353319-1315773347=:10961 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, Chris Rees wrote: > On 11 September 2011 15:35, Warren Block wrote: >> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, Greg Byshenk wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 01:05:49PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: >>>> >>>> Why? >>> >>> Because, in the cases here under discussion, there is somethin "wrong" >>> (for some value of 'wrong') with the software in question. ═I can't >>> speak for Matthias or Chris, but I think the point here is that (at >>> least some) people don't want to make foot-shooting easier. >> >> Slippery slope: consider PHP, or Apache, or any MTA. ═Or newfs. > > No. PHP, Apache and the MTAs are maintained. Newfs is not buggy. There is "something "wrong" (for some value of 'wrong')" with all of these. newfs will easily overwrite an existing filesystem, for example. That's the slope, the degree to which ports or FreeBSD is going to go to assume ignorance on the part of the user and protect them from themselves. Historical precedent is to inform the user about problems but otherwise assume they know what they're doing. Certainly that's wrong at times, but the other way is the road to "That's dangerous and therefore not allowed." Whether there's overt questioning or security through obscurity, there is no way for the software to take on the responsibilities of the operator. > Straw men are the tool of someone who has no more valid points to > make, remember that. As is calling a point a straw man rather than addressing it. Probably neither is quite right. Let me suggest a reasonable[1] plan: Modify portdowngrade[2] or create another tool[2] to retrieve removed ports. Show the scary reason for removal before getting files from CVS. The user acknowledges that implicitly by retrieving files, or explicitly by answering an "Are you really, really, ultra-double sure?" question. The existence of this tool satisfies[3] users who want to install old ports. Continue the removal of dead ports as it has been going. If archival of old historical distfiles is needed, that's not really a FreeBSD problem. Start a new project with its own website. Quick, somebody register deadports.org![4] [1] All reasonableness is subjective. [2] Not it! [3] Well, no, some people won't be satisfied, ever. But this would address the problem and might mollify or assuage or assistify. [4] There may be something out there already that can be used. In fact, I think we'd all be surprised if there wasn't. ---902635197-1833353319-1315773347=:10961-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 21:50:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E516106566C for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: from erengrad.hoster.bg (erengrad.hoster.bg [77.77.142.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FB68FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from middenheim.hoster.bg (middenheim.hoster.bg [77.77.142.11]) by erengrad.hoster.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E88FDD186 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:27:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from straylight.m.ringlet.net (unknown [94.155.53.142]) (Authenticated sender: roam@hoster.bg) by mail.hoster.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5095E5C519 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:26:57 +0300 (EEST) Received: from roam (uid 1000) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) id dae01f by straylight.m.ringlet.net (DragonFly Mail Agent) Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:26:56 +0300 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:26:56 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: Lev Serebryakov Message-ID: <20110911212656.GA2834@straylight.m.ringlet.net> Mail-Followup-To: Lev Serebryakov , perryh@pluto.rain.com, FreeBSD-Ports@freebsd.org References: <765103585.20110909143052@serebryakov.spb.ru> <20110909130458.GO31003@azathoth.lan> <4e6b6e3d.58E89hPS0974IMyM%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20110910071532.GA68847@over-yonder.net> <4e6c4fc7.M6OsWGol0SLyr/IR%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <99834116.20110911130131@serebryakov.spb.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <99834116.20110911130131@serebryakov.spb.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-MailScanner-ID: 5095E5C519.B5271 X-hoster-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-hoster-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0.001, required 10, autolearn=disabled, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-hoster-MailScanner-From: roam@ringlet.net X-hoster-MailScanner-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com, FreeBSD-Ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket direct support. X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:50:23 -0000 --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 01:01:31PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Perryh. > You wrote 11 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8F=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2011 =D0=B3= =2E, 10:05:59: >=20 > > I can't address the non-specific "etc", but I would claim that each > > of those 3 specific examples is a VCS bug. Creating a tarball of a > > particular content set _should_ be a deterministic process: > Once again: gzip, for example, has "timestamp" field in header. Try > this locally, without any [D]VCS: >=20 > % mkdir test && echo "one" > test/one.txt && echo "two" > test/two.txt > % tar czf test1.tar.gz test && sleep 5 && tar czf test2.tar.gz test > % md5 test1.tar.gz test2.tar.gz > MD5 (test1.tar.gz) =3D 7b7c763a9d1d4edca7b5b415ab297fec > MD5 (test2.tar.gz) =3D 703ac5387b2bd1146434516f1d761ed9 > % gzip -d test1.tar.gz test2.tar.gz > % md5 test1.tar test2.tar > MD5 (test1.tar) =3D 0ba33aa8ff6bffeeeb2d96efc38eec85 > MD5 (test2.tar) =3D 0ba33aa8ff6bffeeeb2d96efc38eec85 > % Now try the same with the -n option :) (and yes, I realize that you are probably aware of this, but so should any author of a system that automatically creates compressed tarballs out of not-ridigly-structured data) G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org peter@packetscale.com PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 No language can express every thought unambiguously, least of all this one. --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJObSecAAoJEGUe77AlJ98T0WQQAKHONxdRefY1WfiruVune8qb MIYhZh0X7biTYiEPmJVomwUWkmfbt2tjJd07+vqtW2vC2RFefZibeFoOgys9hzjD gZsNafpKiK+UXvpwTa+z5ODDQXM7KD+ld4z60w7/yfXuCR0/m0bCTn034efAsTib oXi8pl2TeYdR79k7JY88uBkUbtATofoQh8/l3gAiWgfjDbHUozBhwdu7DGxVfHzt A3HdNCMiJ9ExFHlrhpQEsBYKWhxSVY3sKce+3KhadrCcpu4nVKAQyUaW1BVn6ey5 BxmQxSY+lybPGUaixfvfMtbcCbSPS8NfuGjIstnxnoICy8y47BU2uUWyO98F5x4U L0Npbyr915f98vq+/ovLG4LGeLfW+N05JMMEquS+5m7hvK3bwpUQWxhLWPQeER83 WkeSQaZ74gdn0ROopbp/7REqDIKxbf+V3+d4I49y546PQeM8hSBSEOAWqYnYsyo1 cw5EjYbBZ1KR/MnD9Vh6WEmqYnSgWTRCtoODuh36U34CFRKk4WjRmypAak/ZQUzj 8mRJcrfA+4zdBG2RTVcSiIws2m92klAn53cCj6uQ97lWp1oRExflI0RCVAQNJ8FD jdJfHph9DMlVBEOwXCCKLTK9jgFoFuCVQXdxv142xZOsPYsQqG77HsWBlpLoFMcv iklmggo8Rbuwd1T9pa+0 =0ped -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 22:00:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from pointyhat.freebsd.org (pointyhat.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::2b]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24941106568A for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 22:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwin@freebsd.org) Received: from pointyhat.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pointyhat.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8BM0nvr078500 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 22:00:49 GMT (envelope-from erwin@pointyhat.freebsd.org) Received: (from erwin@localhost) by pointyhat.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p8BM0n6S078497 for ports@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 22:00:49 GMT (envelope-from erwin) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 22:00:49 GMT From: Erwin Lansing Message-Id: <201109112200.p8BM0n6S078497@pointyhat.freebsd.org> To: ports@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: INDEX build failed for 7.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 22:00:50 -0000 INDEX build failed with errors: Generating INDEX-7 - please wait.. Done. make_index: rubygem-atoulme-Antwrap-0.7.2: no entry for /usr/ports/devel/rubygem-rjb Committers on the hook: arved pav rea thierry Most recent CVS update was: U devel/Makefile U devel/rubygem-atoulme-antwrap/Makefile U devel/rubygem-atoulme-antwrap/distinfo U devel/rubygem-atoulme-antwrap/pkg-descr U java/Makefile U java/rubygem-rjb/Makefile U java/rubygem-rjb/distinfo U java/rubygem-rjb/pkg-descr U mail/offlineimap/Makefile U mail/offlineimap/distinfo U mail/offlineimap/pkg-plist U mail/offlineimap/files/patch-docs-MANUAL.rst U sysutils/pefs-kmod/files/patch-pefs_vnops.c U www/tt-rss/Makefile U www/tt-rss/distinfo From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 22:54:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D875D1065673 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 22:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from magik@roorback.net) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A188FC12 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 22:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxg9 with SMTP id 9so645643fxg.13 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.54.66 with SMTP id p2mr1963150fag.143.1315779852767; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.nine (user-188-33-122-170.play-internet.pl [188.33.122.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c5sm7611040fai.2.2011.09.11.15.24.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E6D3505.4010500@roorback.net> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:24:05 +0200 From: Grzegorz Blach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110907 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: undefined Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: CFT: security/openssh-portable 5.8p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 22:54:26 -0000 After became a new maintainer of security/openssh-portable, I updated it to 5.8p2 version. My paches fixes several problems repoted to this port: - ports/144597: Kerberos knob work again - ports/150493: Port updated to (almost) recent version - ports/160389: Port build fine on FreeBSD 9.x - ports/156926: Suffix isn't changed with knobs Next problem can't be fixed: - ports/155456: LPK patch wasn't updated upstream Current snapshot can be downloaded from: https://github.com/downloads/Roorback/mgk_ports/openssh-portable-5.8p2-t1.shar Anyone who have time and desire, please check if everything is working in this port and report bugs to me. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 23:14:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E667C1065673; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD188FC0A; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p8BNEOqo015997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:14:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p8BNEOBd015996; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA20612; Sun, 11 Sep 11 16:10:01 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:09:45 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: lev@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4e6da229.3XVC+d3Qo7pQcAni%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <765103585.20110909143052@serebryakov.spb.ru> <20110909130458.GO31003@azathoth.lan> <4e6b6e3d.58E89hPS0974IMyM%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20110910071532.GA68847@over-yonder.net> <4e6c4fc7.M6OsWGol0SLyr/IR%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <99834116.20110911130131@serebryakov.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <99834116.20110911130131@serebryakov.spb.ru> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket direct support. X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:14:26 -0000 Lev Serebryakov wrote: > ... gzip, for example, has "timestamp" field in header. > Try this locally, without any [D]VCS: > > % mkdir test && echo "one" > test/one.txt && echo "two" > test/two.txt > % tar czf test1.tar.gz test && sleep 5 && tar czf test2.tar.gz test > % md5 test1.tar.gz test2.tar.gz > MD5 (test1.tar.gz) = 7b7c763a9d1d4edca7b5b415ab297fec > MD5 (test2.tar.gz) = 703ac5387b2bd1146434516f1d761ed9 > % gzip -d test1.tar.gz test2.tar.gz > % md5 test1.tar test2.tar > MD5 (test1.tar) = 0ba33aa8ff6bffeeeb2d96efc38eec85 > MD5 (test2.tar) = 0ba33aa8ff6bffeeeb2d96efc38eec85 That is arguably a bug in "tar czf" :) but it is easy enough to work around; we just need a checksum method -- e.g. SHA256_UNGZ -- that pipes the distfile through gunzip when computing its checksum. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 23:22:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864C1106564A; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 172-17-198-245.globalsuite.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AFD1511EF; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4E6D42BC.3070400@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:22:36 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110901 Thunderbird/6.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4E6B1AF5.7090900@tomse.dk> <4E6B227B.5050708@FreeBSD.org> <4E6B77EE.6030509@gmx.de> <20110910171530.GC23457@guilt.hydra> <20110910190549.GA23971@guilt.hydra> <20110911124910.GK13219@portland.byshenk.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: undefined OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Chris Rees , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Greg Byshenk Subject: Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:22:38 -0000 On 09/11/2011 13:35, Warren Block wrote: > Let me suggest a reasonable[1] plan: No. :) No more talking is necessary. Doing is necessary (or not, doesn't really matter to me at this point). I think Chris is right, a reasonable first step is a Handbook section on "How to recover a port from the CVS Attic." Beyond that if users want to get together and implement Carsten's idea, or another similar service, go for it! But at this point there is no more utility in continuing to talk about this topic. Everyone has said what they have to say, often numerous times, and there has been way more heat than light shed on the topic for some time now (as evidenced by Conrad's recent post where he realized that the issue is not nearly as dire as he thought it was after taking a look at what is actually happening). Time to move on, Doug -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 23:22:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F0C1065672 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo201.cox.net (eastrmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867728FC08 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110911232235.RESK32549.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:22:35 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.87.41]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id XbNb1h00F0tX9KW02bNbvF; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:22:35 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.4E6D42BB.008A,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=vWikg9PSJH5eWPsfInVwkFcjRsjcbcFZH9bro1lAIgk= c=1 sm=1 a=e6p3YCFP6YsA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=HSeXd6ud8jGmpzpM0y1GZQ==:17 a=s1O25tkdAAAA:8 a=yo4frS0-AAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=kk2t_qt8eOJvPMzpqBAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=tPEGoYsrQNAA:10 a=OyOq_G8mXAEA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=HSeXd6ud8jGmpzpM0y1GZQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8BNMZMl020136 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:22:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:22:30 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110911182230.103be854@cox.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4E6B1AF5.7090900@tomse.dk> <4E6B227B.5050708@FreeBSD.org> <4E6B77EE.6030509@gmx.de> <20110910171530.GC23457@guilt.hydra> <20110910190549.GA23971@guilt.hydra> <20110911124910.GK13219@portland.byshenk.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:22:44 -0000 On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:35:47 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wrote: > If archival of old historical distfiles is needed, that's not really > a FreeBSD problem. Start a new project with its own website. Quick, > somebody register deadports.org![4] LOL. Love the name! Wonder if it's already taken. :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 00:12:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57ABF106564A for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:12:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from giffunip@tutopia.com) Received: from nm19.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm19.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F4D28FC13 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.66] by nm19.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Sep 2011 00:00:34 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.7] by tm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Sep 2011 00:00:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Sep 2011 00:00:34 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 755094.92744.bm@omp1007.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 55479 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Sep 2011 00:00:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1315785634; bh=yexJFKYTE1+1CCuSS82TirsDD7Xk6U0JoK/NfHCXWgE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jiTmkZ111Vy5MSoswuCnqAcn/1a17/80BVbathSx3laGXh5kzaaRGl3q57iDpsHO1qN+MiOESR5vu5dUsfHjh7pe2+Ad3pBu55fR8kbcvIw9S6dxWdRtxXU74a65LplXnqu1fFhVLlpabczgjT5zePAMaevqLfv4E4P2m4qW1JA= X-YMail-OSG: sGjj.3gVM1nCTf8HZg2oYRZPTKyp4wz_soK62rqe1gXIBwF AxxX6ZzHfJl_rZ.WrtvrqvngFTvMpqj96igW.ris6gQZHFeFg0C_tt4ZlYzK eCN37hr1Adbl18fEAigdLTAVQFiNxRpIybcvm2oND3hLyhWHBLGfjUd3a0n5 a_qYOMo2OZdRmb.ZG3XubY0I3aLlyrn5vLNh7wG1scS_rgTTdyRNcVf2NnQw hLevMU4nKCRIDPyN4m4hi6tsyt9tCYjduVqPZVZiWBNYJsZ3GTiGD9o78qtO WRmdLJi1b2uhc0i7NfIkG6dhbwOhppEgQSAl5EODpKZA4VldWy.0E0gTayqu WE_cH13UyCRzmeon8NnvPgoyuEuqm4USPRYaOxixZtLmJM7uOSVSiujRk3x5 pyU3E77PAUbCinMqPhq5QHDF1tqS.yoerIJgHWLLIqQSLTS6hxvKP4_gZFib qBURq3BnZLw.tZ6jtWseW_eSSQT4Ym187HEt8nBpfiybcwti655Wp4xCTI3V fjrsBk8X1vos319dWSHRNHEK0JpdgOUueSDEh.AAnfn7BuHcTYUzVFXHIbtE zM3vgYw_IjBc_ipVA9SkZug7DOgp1FqjUWIN8cy7Id0ZKNeg6pZuPGTB5 Received: from [200.118.157.7] by web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:00:34 PDT X-RocketYMMF: giffunip X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.113.315625 Message-ID: <1315785634.54810.YahooMailClassic@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:00:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Pedro F. Giffuni" To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1902610426-1315785634=:54810" Cc: Subject: print/afm: update for testing X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: giffunip@tutopia.com List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:12:48 -0000 --0-1902610426-1315785634=:54810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello; OpenOffice come with a package of 35 Adobe Font Metric files. I think these are useful basically for Windows but not for UNIX: am I correct? I did an update to print/afm so that it uses the OOo file, which is somewhat bigger. I am hesitating if I should submit this as print/afm is used by hylafax and some of the names have changed. 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(envelope-from erwin) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 01:02:51 GMT From: Erwin Lansing Message-Id: <201109120102.p8C12pX7096379@pointyhat.freebsd.org> To: ports@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: INDEX build failed for 7.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 01:02:52 -0000 INDEX build failed with errors: Generating INDEX-7 - please wait.. Done. make_index: rubygem-atoulme-Antwrap-0.7.2: no entry for /usr/ports/devel/rubygem-rjb Committers on the hook: arved cy pav rea thierry Most recent CVS update was: U games/angband/Makefile U games/angband/distinfo U games/angband/pkg-plist U games/ninix-aya/Makefile U games/ninix-aya/distinfo U security/fwbuilder/Makefile From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 02:02:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0A5106564A for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 02:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f49.google.com (mail-gw0-f49.google.com [74.125.83.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF238FC0C for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 02:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb1 with SMTP id 1so3822137gwb.36 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:02:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eJBEk4HfVJ643NMuRsdmDeUZDtVma5a5VwnK9T3FLAw=; b=QrS95MYy3iUmkzKgMoc+awGZS7dSlDW+m7bvU/aGG7O+Bvq3sr7waoOOJRRor+LycA TecMxzn8PTMqqyqx4Sr8cfXGeBiDoCZJgTrlvdU/E2VltsNpGC9yusELQKlOAGX6CxJM b7yCtBVjZPkyrsst1ugDaQSQOdbmtn7Bjt5HM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.17.4 with SMTP id k4mr943107pbd.463.1315792941432; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.166.13 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 22:02:21 -0400 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket direct support. X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 02:02:22 -0000 > > ... gzip, for example, has "timestamp" field in header. > > Try this locally, without any [D]VCS: > > > > % mkdir test && echo "one" > test/one.txt && echo "two" > test/two.txt > > % tar czf test1.tar.gz test && sleep 5 && tar czf test2.tar.gz test > > % md5 test1.tar.gz test2.tar.gz > > MD5 (test1.tar.gz) = 7b7c763a9d1d4edca7b5b415ab297fec > > MD5 (test2.tar.gz) = 703ac5387b2bd1146434516f1d761ed9 > > % gzip -d test1.tar.gz test2.tar.gz > > % md5 test1.tar test2.tar > > MD5 (test1.tar) = 0ba33aa8ff6bffeeeb2d96efc38eec85 > > MD5 (test2.tar) = 0ba33aa8ff6bffeeeb2d96efc38eec85 > > That is arguably a bug in "tar czf" :) but it is easy enough to > work around; we just need a checksum method -- e.g. SHA256_UNGZ -- > that pipes the distfile through gunzip when computing its checksum. > The problem goes beyond that: different standard tar formats can include mutable data like major and minor device numbers, and the atimes, uids, and gids of files. See, for example, tar(5). We would have to continually monitor whether each site generates tarballs with invariant checksums from the "same" files, or check the integrity of archive members after extraction. b. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 04:04:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from pointyhat.freebsd.org (pointyhat.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::2b]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D7B1065670 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 04:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwin@freebsd.org) Received: from pointyhat.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pointyhat.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8C44jCf055037 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 04:04:45 GMT (envelope-from erwin@pointyhat.freebsd.org) Received: (from erwin@localhost) by pointyhat.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p8C44jx4055036 for ports@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 04:04:45 GMT (envelope-from erwin) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 04:04:45 GMT From: Erwin Lansing Message-Id: <201109120404.p8C44jx4055036@pointyhat.freebsd.org> To: ports@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: INDEX build failed for 7.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 04:04:45 -0000 INDEX build failed with errors: Generating INDEX-7 - please wait.. Done. make_index: rubygem-atoulme-Antwrap-0.7.2: no entry for /usr/ports/devel/rubygem-rjb Committers on the hook: arved cy novel pav rea thierry Most recent CVS update was: U MOVED U multimedia/Makefile From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 07:02:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from pointyhat.freebsd.org (pointyhat.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::2b]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F75E106566C for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 07:02:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwin@freebsd.org) Received: from pointyhat.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pointyhat.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8C725NE064535 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 07:02:05 GMT (envelope-from erwin@pointyhat.freebsd.org) Received: (from erwin@localhost) by pointyhat.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p8C725JK064513 for ports@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 07:02:05 GMT (envelope-from erwin) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 07:02:05 GMT From: Erwin Lansing Message-Id: <201109120702.p8C725JK064513@pointyhat.freebsd.org> To: ports@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: INDEX now builds successfully on 7.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 07:02:05 -0000 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 08:42:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FDA1065673 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 08:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomse@tomse.dk) Received: from pasmtpA.tele.dk (pasmtpa.tele.dk [80.160.77.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116E98FC23 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 08:42:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.5.95] (unknown [62.243.124.37]) by pasmtpA.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA8E8003E5 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:25:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E6DC1ED.2070105@tomse.dk> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:25:17 +0200 From: Carsten Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <4E6B1AF5.7090900@tomse.dk> <4E6B227B.5050708@FreeBSD.org> <4E6B77EE.6030509@gmx.de> <20110910171530.GC23457@guilt.hydra> <20110910190549.GA23971@guilt.hydra> <20110911124910.GK13219@portland.byshenk.net> <4E6D42BC.3070400@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4E6D42BC.3070400@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 08:42:47 -0000 On 2011-09-12 01:22, Doug Barton wrote: > On 09/11/2011 13:35, Warren Block wrote: >> Let me suggest a reasonable[1] plan: > > No. :) No more talking is necessary. Doing is necessary (or not, > doesn't really matter to me at this point). > > I think Chris is right, a reasonable first step is a Handbook section on > "How to recover a port from the CVS Attic." Beyond that if users want to > get together and implement Carsten's idea, or another similar service, > go for it! > > But at this point there is no more utility in continuing to talk about > this topic. Everyone has said what they have to say, often numerous > times, and there has been way more heat than light shed on the topic for > some time now (as evidenced by Conrad's recent post where he realized > that the issue is not nearly as dire as he thought it was after taking a > look at what is actually happening). > > > Time to move on, > > Doug > I think what needed to be discussed has been said, I wasn't aware that the old ports was stored in CVS. With this option, I too think it's enough to write it in the handbook. Thank you all cheers Carsten From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 09:23:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46C7106566C; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itetcu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (worf.ds9.tecnik93.com [81.196.207.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EBD8FC15; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IT (unknown [81.181.146.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 808A522C5494; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:23:32 +0300 (EEST) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:23:32 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Chris Rees Message-Id: <20110912122332.b9d6eb98dc0b799bab76c8fd@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: <4E6B1AF5.7090900@tomse.dk> <4E6B227B.5050708@FreeBSD.org> <201109101146.08656.avilla@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0beta3 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alberto Villa , Doug Barton , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Carsten Jensen Subject: Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:23:35 -0000 On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:30:16 +0100 Chris Rees wrote: > On 10 September 2011 10:46, Alberto Villa wrote: > > On Saturday 10 September 2011 10:53:54 Chris Rees wrote: > >> I also don't think this is a terrible idea, but perhaps we could > >> just put a little section about Resurrecting dead ports with a > >> quick cvs tutorial into the Porter's Handbook? > > > > why not writing a make target in bsd.port.mk to do it? cvs is in > > base, after all. something like `make resurrect the/port`... No. b.p.m is complex enough as it is. Dead meat WILL NOT be put into it. -- Ion-Mihai Tetcu From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 11:06:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68E41065674 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961D48FC13 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:06:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8CB66mK004647 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:06:06 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p8CB66xR004645 for freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:06:06 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:06:06 GMT Message-Id: <201109121106.p8CB66xR004645@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD ports list Cc: Subject: Current unassigned ports problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:06:06 -0000 (Note: an HTML version of this report is available at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=ports .) The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f ports/160668 [patch] graphics/zathura: add zathurarc.5 under NOPORT o ports/160667 [patch] audio/xmmix: fix WARNING pid 4826 (xmmix): ioc o ports/160666 [maintainer-update] p5-Sys-Filesystem default package f ports/160660 [patch] cad/linux-eagle5: add missing dependencies f ports/160654 [PATCH] databases/cassandra: scripts must be world exe f ports/160649 lang/spidermonkey missing some header files o ports/160648 [maintainer] [patch] net/ndisc6 update to latest versi o ports/160642 [patch] graphics/qiviewer new version f ports/160640 [patch] devel/php5-blitz new version o ports/160639 [maintainer-update] [patch] devel/hg-git: Update to 0. o ports/160636 [patch] deskutils/fancytasks new version o ports/160635 [patch] graphics/zint new version o ports/160634 [patch] multimedia/clipgrab new version o ports/160633 [patch] graphics/scantailor new version o ports/160632 [patch] x11-themes/kde4-windeco-dekorator new version o ports/160629 [patch] x11-themes/kde4-windeco-crystal new version f ports/160626 [patch] www/py-rssdler: deprecate in favor of www/py-f f ports/160608 sysutils/fusefs-kmod fails to build on amd64 o ports/160606 ports-bug [PATCH] devel/rlog: update to 1.4 o ports/160589 [maintainer] databases/phpmyadmin security update to 3 o ports/160582 add LATEST_LINK for net/collectd5 o ports/160579 [PATCH] audio/firefly: portlint(1) fixes and more o ports/160566 [new port] mail/dbmail-devel: dbmail upgraded to versi o ports/160545 net-mgmt/collectd: Adding LATEST_LINK to collectd to m o ports/160544 sysutils/lsof: build fails with clang f ports/160539 [PATCH] security/botan: update to 1.10.1 o ports/160527 [patch] audio/orpheus: mark broken f ports/160511 [PATCH] make math/py-graphtool actually work f ports/160510 [patch] net-p2p/amule-devel: clang build fails (foo vs o ports/160504 sysutils/bsdstats: 300.statistics outputs an error mes o ports/160414 japanese/alias-fonts: [patch] Broken pkg-(de)install s f ports/160401 [patch update] security/strongswan 4.5.1 -> 4.5.3 f ports/160394 [UPDATE] www/py-surl: depend on simplejson conditional f ports/160389 [patch] security/openssh-portable: fix build on 9.x f ports/160378 x11-toolkits/py-wxPython28-common: CLANG compilation f o ports/160366 New port: misc/xmonad-log-applet An applet that will d o ports/160353 [patch] update www/linux-opera to 11.51 f ports/160352 net-im/pidgin-sipe has undocumented NSS dependency o ports/160323 [PATCH] japanese/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin. fix sa-update, o ports/160319 [New Port] pidgin-audacious-remote (plugin for pidgin) o ports/160313 New port:databases/pg_reorg o ports/160308 [MAINTAINER] dns/powerdns: fix loading a whole new set o ports/160278 [MAINTAINER] japanese/ibus-skk: update to 1.3.8 o ports/160273 [patch] Fix distfile sources for port net/AquaGatekeep o ports/160272 [PATCH] unbreak port net/AquaGatekeeper o ports/160265 [NEW PORT] lang/pypy 1.6 o ports/160262 New port: net-mgmt/better-cacti-templates - better Cac f ports/160257 [patch] mail/ssmtp: pkg-message needs further descript f ports/160242 audio/murmur installs directories with incorrect owner o ports/160236 [patch] Upgrade lang/jruby to 1.6.4 f ports/160233 [patch][update] devel/pinba_engine Update to new revis f ports/160232 Update: x11/xlockmore to 5.34 o ports/160213 [NEW PORT] security/py-htpasswd - htpasswd replacement f ports/160210 [update] devel/php5-pinba o ports/160208 [NEW PORT} print/py27-pdfcolorsplit - script to split o ports/160207 [NEW PORT] devel/php5-dav: The PHP WebDAV extension o ports/160194 [PATCH] sysutils/jdiskreport: update to 1.3.2 f ports/160184 graphics/jpeg2pdf is broken with ruby 1.9, but does no o ports/160178 [NEW PORT] www/vimprobable1 - webkit browser inspired o ports/160177 [NEW PORT] www/vimprobable2 - webkit browser inspired o ports/160174 [PATCH] japanese/jcode.pl Fix defined(%hash) is deprec o ports/160172 [NEW PORTS] japanese/wordpress: add ja-wordpress 3.2.1 o ports/160062 math/pari: fix fetch and undeprecate f ports/160060 collision: sysutils/coreutils Collision between system f ports/160052 [patch] sysutils/fusefs-kmod: fix build after vfs_flag o ports/160031 [PATCH] devel/yajl add yajl.pc o ports/160020 [MAINTAINER] japanese/ddskk: update to 14.3 f ports/160017 [new port] NeoRouter client & server o ports/160007 [NEW PORT] ports-mgmt/porttree: Show dependences of Fr o ports/160006 [new port] devel/premake4: cross-platform build script f ports/159996 multimedia/ffmpegthumbnailer doesn't link with libjpeg o ports/159991 [PATCH] devel/py-mercurialserver mark IGNORE f ports/159976 new port: games/blackjack f ports/159958 [UPDATE] x11/deskpaint to 3.1 f ports/159951 [patch] www/woof to support Python 2.7 o ports/159935 New port: devel/libparserutils A library useful when w f ports/159926 [PATCH] lang/py-prolog: some cleanup o ports/159920 [MAINTAINER] dns/zonecheck: update to 3.0.5 o ports/159915 [MAINTAINER] net-mgmt/ndpmon: [SUMMARIZE CHANGES] o ports/159914 [MAINTAINER] net-mgmt/ramond: daemonising support o ports/159908 [new port] devel/php5-blitz-devel Templating engine o ports/159903 japanese/a2ps: a2ps-j generates warning errors for obs o ports/159894 [new port] databases/php52-rrdtool f ports/159874 [patch] sysutils/zfs-snapshot-mgmt: respect local time o ports/159873 security/libgcrypt needs libgpg error > 1.8 f ports/159821 [patch] www/squid31: dnsserver does not build o ports/159803 update security/monkeysphere to 0.35 f ports/159791 x11-fonts/terminus-font patch apply fails f ports/159790 sysutils/freesbie cannot build iso f ports/159786 [patch] upgrade of security/ossec-hids-server and secu f ports/159766 cannnot execute sysutils/ezjail on 9.0 BETA1 o ports/159748 comms/rxtx installs improperly with openjdk7 o ports/159747 New port: sysutlis/wiimms : Wii and GameCube ISO Tools o ports/159735 [patch] adopt and update comms/rxtx f ports/159728 sysutils/htop 0.9.0_1 is broken (does not show process o ports/159636 [patch] net/freevrrpd: RC script for freevrrpd that co o ports/159631 New port: sysutils/amount FreeBSD specific auto mount o ports/159626 New port: dns/radns IPv6 DNS server address autoconfig f ports/159619 net-mgmt/netams install cgi scripts without exec permi f ports/159607 Update port: graphic/mahotas Efficient Image Processin o ports/159575 [new port] games/stockfish: open source chess engine f ports/159560 [PATCH] devel/php-xdebug: update to 2.1.2 o ports/159550 audo/freeswitch-sounds: update to latest version, othe o ports/159549 [New Port] graphics/ocrfeeder o ports/159544 [New Port] graphics/py-imaging-sane f ports/159516 [patch] Port comms/mlan3 update to 310r2 version o ports/159515 [MAINTAINER] net-mgmt/zabbix-server: update to 1.8.6 f ports/159409 [PATCH] devel/py-boto: update to 2.0 o ports/159393 [New port] x11/gnome-color-chooser: customize appearan o ports/159378 [NEW PORT] lang/php-plua: PLua is a PHP extension whic o ports/159361 sysutils/fusefs-kmod doesn't compile o ports/159325 new port: emulators/joytran f ports/159322 [PATCH] sysutils/fusefs-kmod doesn't build due to rece f ports/159313 sysutils/uhidd: uhidd-devd.conf.sample doesn't work o ports/159302 New port:math/geogebra - software for math and geometr f ports/159230 [PATCH] fix sysutils/fusefs-kmod for the 64bit mount f o ports/159221 sysutils/ezjail: ezjail-admin command, console option f ports/159218 [patch] update multimedia/ffmpegthumbnailer to 2.0.7, f ports/159205 net-mgmt/zabbix-agent: No active checks on server: hos o ports/159204 net-mgmt/zabbix-server - graphs drawn with no data o ports/159187 [patch] sysutils/am-utils patch to add nolockd to nfs f ports/159177 sysutils/muse on 8.2-STABLE o ports/159121 net/freevrrpd: Make adv_int a runtime configurable opt f ports/159108 sysutils/fusefs-smbnetfs update to 0.5.3 o ports/159102 sysutils/fusefs-kmod: fusefs daemonizes before mount i o ports/159083 [NEW PORT] www/py27-django_compressor: Compresses link f ports/159050 PORT graphics/fotoxx Makefile update o ports/159025 New port: www/py-tornado2 - An open source scalable, n o ports/159007 New ports: print/linux-f10-cups-libs, security/linux-f s ports/158983 [NEW PORT] devel/pecl-dtrace: PHP DTrace provider f ports/158968 Update port: lang/mosh version 0.2.7 f ports/158935 [PATCH] print/lpr-wrapper: update to 0.7 o ports/158931 print/perlftlib is not built with perl5.14 o ports/158925 New Port: audio/pithos GNOME Pandora player a ports/158910 [PATCH] sysutils/battmond: update to 0.3 f ports/158907 [PATCH] www/interchange: update to 5.6.3 f ports/158898 [PATCH] www/libecap: update to 0.2.0 f ports/158897 [PATCH] net/phamm: update to 0.5.18 f ports/158889 [PATCH] sysutils/ucspi-proxy: update to 0.98 o ports/158878 [patch] textproc/dadadodo assumes long is 32 bits o ports/158781 New port: games/drcreep Platform Puzzle Game f ports/158731 sysutils/byobu wants module "snack" o ports/158704 New port: mail/mailfromd f ports/158703 New port: mail/mailutils f ports/158533 [NEW PORT] devel/tiled: 2D game map editor f ports/158403 New port: mail/dovecot2-deleted-to-trash-plugin: dovec o ports/158204 [PATCH] java/jde: update to 2.4.0.1 o ports/158179 some packages do not fully honor -P dir option in pkg_ o ports/158167 [NEW PORT] databases/percona-server: Multithreaded SQL f ports/158044 net/iaxmodem - multiple instances started o ports/157791 audo/midimountain fails to copy all xpm files and fail o ports/157738 New port: net/py-ldaptor o ports/157719 [new port] net-mgmt/zenpack-CheckPing: Provides nagios o ports/157715 [new port] net-mgmt/zenpack-libvirt: Provides monitori o ports/157320 [NEW PORT] databases/pecl-pdo_user: PECL classes provi o ports/157301 [New port] net-mgmt/zbxlog: Syslog server receives mes o ports/157282 [MAINTAINER PATCH] net/xrdp: effective login name is n o ports/157191 [new port] net-mgmt/zenpack-MACReport: Lists MAC addre o ports/157190 [new port] net-mgmt/zenpack-GraphPortlet: Enables user o ports/157176 [patch] sysutils/heartbeat crashes when clock_t (signe o ports/157135 [new port] net-mgmt/zenpack-DellMonitor: Provides Zeno o ports/157133 [new port] net-mgmt/zenpack-ApacheMonitor: Provides pe f ports/157109 conflict between net/netpipes and sysutils/timelimit f ports/157107 conflict between mail/p5-Mail-SPF and mail/libspf2 f ports/157021 multimedia/mplayer: does not build with multimedia/lib o ports/157014 devel/jam: does not compile on FreeBSD 9.0 CURRENT/amd o ports/156834 New port: games/fairymax-devel latest version of games o ports/156791 New port: security/py-kerberos Python bindings for ker f ports/156747 multimedia/mplayer: fix 24-bits OSS + some improvement o ports/156629 [patch] sysutils/puppet patch to use PACKAGEROOT inste o ports/156539 [NEW PORT] print/frescobaldi: A music score editor for o ports/156472 [new port] devel/ocaml-react - OCaml library for react f ports/156376 [PATCH] graphics/optipng: update to 0.6.5 o ports/156362 New port: games/rftg Race for the Galaxy AI o ports/156343 multimedia/xbmc 10.1_1 mp3 playback problem - CALSADir f ports/156252 New port: devel/radar Opensource tools to disasm, debu f ports/156171 port multimedia/mplayer patch-libao2-ao_oss.c is incor f ports/156143 New port: devel/arduino-mk: Build Arduino sketches fro f ports/156075 [new port] graphics/openfst: library for constructing, f ports/156034 print/lyx-devel spell checking with enchant does not w f ports/155941 mwserv library support is not included in nepenthes.co f ports/155898 Update port devel/libthai o ports/155788 ports security/cfsd startup -- multiple problems f ports/155697 ports-mgmt/pkg_replace doesn't want to replace java/op o ports/155593 lang/mpd .16.1 ignores embedded cue sheets in FLAC fil f ports/155592 polish/ekg, after polish/libgadu update, contacts are o ports/155538 new port devel/radlib radlib developer library. Event- o ports/155447 Update ports: net-p2p/eiskaltdcpp-* to 2.2.1, New port f ports/155306 multimedia/openshot doesn't work o ports/155166 update deskutils/org-mode.el to 7.4 f ports/155115 devel/doxygen: dependancy loop o ports/155070 NEW PORT: games/CastleVox - new fast strategy board ga f ports/154973 [PATCH] security/ike: fix plist when QTGUI=off, respec o ports/154711 security/heimdal: kadmin: hdb_open: hdb_open failed in o ports/154682 net/iaxmodem: add rc script for running more than 1 ia f ports/154546 update port: games/gemrb to version 0.6.3 o ports/154401 New port: www/jetty7 - newer fork by Eclipse/Codehaus o ports/154285 [NEW PORT] java/netty: Java NIO client server framewor o ports/154217 New port: ports-mgmt/portsreinstall o ports/154202 New port: security/scannedonly - A Samba VFS virus sca o ports/154031 New port: audio/shoutcast2: SHOUTcast Distributed Netw o ports/153926 New port net/freeswitch-snapshot o ports/153425 [PATCH] www/limesurvey: Added a switch to use PostgreS o ports/152982 [patch] net/nss_ldap, ignore option nss_initgroups_ign f ports/152915 russian/xmms v. 1.2.11_12 don't see cdinfo and tag's i o ports/152236 [patch] x11/slim: Enable pam support, add hald and dbu s ports/152195 [PATCH] deskutils/pinot update to xapian-core 1.2.3 f ports/152192 [PATCH] databases/xapian-bindings update to 1.2.3 o ports/152191 [PATCH] databases/xapian-core update to 1.2.3 o ports/152118 New port: deskutils/linux-tahometer A worktime trackin o ports/151930 [PATCH] net-mgmt/netams links to libmysqlclient/libpq o ports/151747 new port: emulators/wine-fbsd64: request for (a variat o ports/151318 [repocopy][new port] x11-wm/stumpwm: rename to x11-wm/ o ports/151296 [patch] ports/sysutils/fusefs-kmod build fails: MNT_NF o ports/150425 www/squid31: rc.d/squid's squid_fib setting ineffectiv f ports/150235 sysutils/smartmontools build system bug o ports/150086 [NEW PORT] net-im/tkabber-plugins-devel: External Plug o ports/149564 patch for various games/ adding appropriate LICENSEs t f ports/148871 bad packages: p5-XML-Parser-2.36_1 p5-XML-SAX-Expat-0. o ports/147943 New port: net/radsecproxy Radsecproxy is a generic RAD s ports/147829 Improved net/ucarp startup script: multiple VHID and F o ports/147169 bsd.ruby.mk: Adding GEM_ARGS a ports/139203 sysutils/freebsd-snapshot more careful patch not depen o ports/137378 Advisory locks fail with ports/security/cfs on FreeBSD f ports/122333 net/arping - patch to lookup for interface and src ip, o ports/57498 HEIMDAL_HOME should be defined in src or ports Makefil 226 problems total. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 11:08:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5661065724 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:08:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCD98FC17 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8CB8alq006720 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:08:36 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p8CB8Zh0006718 for ports@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:08:35 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:08:35 GMT Message-Id: <201109121108.p8CB8Zh0006718@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: ports@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to ports@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 11:08:36 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. No matches to your query From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 16:59:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06714106566C for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3EA98FC16 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:2d7d:e6bb:877a:7b03]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6F7F34AC2D for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:59:04 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:58:56 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: ports@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:59:06 -0000 Hello, Ports. Is here console tool, which shows dependency tree of installed ports from "required" port to "users"? pkg_tree performs opposite task. +REQUIRED_BY is flat list, unfortunately. I need to investigate exact path why this port is installed on my system :) --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 18:38:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D527106564A for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:38:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BA48FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8CIcCUC036029 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:38:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8CIcCUC036029 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1315852692; bh=UZFCk2j/uDDT2CB3R5BiqFX+g4x8R0rE4HQOqTTLMTY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E6E518D.6050702@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2012=20Sep=202011=2019:38:05=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/2 0110902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20freebsd-port s@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Print=20+REQUIRED_BY=20as=20tree?|R eferences:=20<503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru>|In-Repl y-To:=20<503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru>|X-Enigmail-V ersion:=201.3.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart /signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/ pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigAA221C7E566C 2139E2E3DBEE"; b=UXn6Jfwwqhed5z+TfFa1ikETdzj2MezGttRq2kMZ7jrmi7slQCDSCq+AhsANVKzMu Mp0auKZXwnWI3tRxzlZd0taVQEx+zHBgHnCmeEXwmxizTc86KHEWLOaXPlr8rKobmJ 8jsAucz7fy+I3fRXYyZuuudWSJbPVLaCUNSo9p9U= Message-ID: <4E6E518D.6050702@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:38:05 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigAA221C7E566C2139E2E3DBEE" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:38:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigAA221C7E566C2139E2E3DBEE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/09/2011 17:58, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Ports. >=20 > Is here console tool, which shows dependency tree of installed ports > from "required" port to "users"? pkg_tree performs opposite task. >=20 > +REQUIRED_BY is flat list, unfortunately. >=20 > I need to investigate exact path why this port is installed on my > system :) >=20 ports-mgmt/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex can do this: lucid-nonsense:/usr/ports:% portdepends -s ports-mgmt/p5-FreeBSD-Portinde= x [......] p5-FreeBSD-Portindex-2.4 (ports-mgmt/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex) [...BR.] - p5-BerkeleyDB-0.49 (databases/p5-BerkeleyDB) [...BRL] - - db48-4.8.30.0 (databases/db48) [EP.BR.] - - perl-5.12.4_2 (lang/perl5.12) [EP.BR.] - perl-5.12.4_2 (lang/perl5.12) (Declaration of interest: I wrote it) Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigAA221C7E566C2139E2E3DBEE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5uUZMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwh/wCeLebax1a1jYjKBn7e4/S3hGUs AWoAn3+ui4AosW8PZnpb/BKN5g2pPvII =zjmG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigAA221C7E566C2139E2E3DBEE-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 19:06:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F35106564A for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886F68FC12 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:2d7d:e6bb:877a:7b03]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BCF554AC1C; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:06:28 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:06:21 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <865325899.20110912230621@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Eric In-Reply-To: References: <503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:06:31 -0000 Hello, Eric. You wrote 12 =F1=E5=ED=F2=FF=E1=F0=FF 2011 =E3., 21:33:58: > Not aware of a command line tool, but the beta version of the freshports > website show what ports require the selected port in order to run, which > what I think you want. Oh. For gcc45, for example, list is soobig, that command line tool, working only on installed ports, will be much more useful. And it is too fresh :) I have gcc44 installed (and needed to RUN something!), and it is deprecated. freshports doesn't know about gcc44 a lot, because it uses more new ports database. And I don't understand, which port in +REQUIRED_BY of gcc44 is root of all this evil -- IMHO, I don't have any ports, which needs gcc to RUN :) --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 19:14:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB591106564A for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:14:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13428FC16 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:14:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:2d7d:e6bb:877a:7b03]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 700764AC1C; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:14:21 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:14:13 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <110864072.20110912231413@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4E6E518D.6050702@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E6E518D.6050702@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:14:22 -0000 Hello, Matthew. You wrote 12 =F1=E5=ED=F2=FF=E1=F0=FF 2011 =E3., 22:38:05: > On 12/09/2011 17:58, Lev Serebryakov wrote: >> Hello, Ports. >>=20 >> Is here console tool, which shows dependency tree of installed ports >> from "required" port to "users"? pkg_tree performs opposite task. >>=20 >> +REQUIRED_BY is flat list, unfortunately. >>=20 >> I need to investigate exact path why this port is installed on my >> system :) >>=20 > ports-mgmt/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex can do this: > lucid-nonsense:/usr/ports:% portdepends -s ports-mgmt/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex > [......] p5-FreeBSD-Portindex-2.4 (ports-mgmt/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex) > [...BR.] - p5-BerkeleyDB-0.49 (databases/p5-BerkeleyDB) > [...BRL] - - db48-4.8.30.0 (databases/db48) > [EP.BR.] - - perl-5.12.4_2 (lang/perl5.12) > [EP.BR.] - perl-5.12.4_2 (lang/perl5.12) It seems, that your tool works by INDEX or ports database (not installed ports! They could differ, if installed ports are out-of-date!) and it shows exactly the same output as pkg_tree: opposite to what I need. --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 19:30:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA718106566B for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5258FC0C for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwn22 with SMTP id 22so3092556wwn.1 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:30:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EbwBiU14zlSefq2lv7GR/AiHXM3rRIpJTRH1CzTFgzw=; b=aK6HRUFOct5x7bF7qN3seAiIR64+79cJZyZfLLxKQ3BuQYpq5o0v4cJn0W/E0ZrIIp PYwrah+RZFzumVD1R7geSUd8AC5UJPGtZxRMp5HbVFnTO0u9tJ8GGGxPDVKNnOLA972a SqvqA8USAiui0MH2Tn9PoQFC5gO5PvFPSQQ28= Received: by 10.216.80.96 with SMTP id j74mr1320879wee.72.1315855819307; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (197.21.102.84.rev.sfr.net [84.102.21.197]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fq9sm17176974wbb.15.2011.09.12.12.30.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E6E5D91.9020701@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:29:21 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110909 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: devel/git new update des not fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:30:20 -0000 Hello, Since my new update of ports tree : ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE ===> Found saved configuration for git-1.7.4.3 => git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles//. => Attempting to fetch http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 fetch: http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: Service Unavailable => Attempting to fetch http://www.us.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 fetch: http://www.us.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: No address record => Attempting to fetch http://www.no.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 fetch: http://www.no.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: No address record => Attempting to fetch http://www.de.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 fetch: http://www.de.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: No address record => Attempting to fetch http://www.it.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 fetch: http://www.it.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: No address record => Attempting to fetch http://www.ru.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 fetch: http://www.ru.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: No address record => Attempting to fetch http://www.au.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 fetch: http://www.au.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: No address record => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this => port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles// and try again. *** Error code 1 Cheers, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 19:43:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63111065670; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 172-17-198-245.globalsuite.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DCD15329A; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4E6E60C7.90304@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:43:03 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110912 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lev@FreeBSD.org References: <503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru> <865325899.20110912230621@serebryakov.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <865325899.20110912230621@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: undefined OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Eric Subject: Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:43:05 -0000 On 09/12/2011 12:06, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Eric. > You wrote 12 я│п╣п╫я┌я▐п╠я─я▐ 2011 пЁ., 21:33:58: > >> Not aware of a command line tool, but the beta version of the freshports >> website show what ports require the selected port in order to run, which >> what I think you want. > Oh. For gcc45, for example, list is soobig, that command line tool, > working only on installed ports, will be much more useful. It's not as easy to represent the data in the way you describe as you might think. Something like gcc is going to have multiple entry points in a graph, which is really hard to represent in a (sort of) 1-dimensional structure like a tree. I haven't seen any tools that do this well, although I would be happy to be wrong about it. > And it is too fresh :) I have gcc44 installed (and needed to RUN > something!), and it is deprecated. freshports doesn't know about > gcc44 a lot, because it uses more new ports database. And I don't > understand, which port in +REQUIRED_BY of gcc44 is root of all this > evil -- IMHO, I don't have any ports, which needs gcc to RUN :) I would imagine that all of the ones you compiled with it do since they are almost certainly linked with the libgcc that comes with gcc44. hth, Doug -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 19:43:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEC0106564A for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370708FC08 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyh15 with SMTP id 15so4973525wyh.13 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:43:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7enAeDhmVqgz7A4PS2v7w+l+VaZCT2Ufd0H0KobgFmQ=; b=m1UY0/qEo7udCnaz333idH9iQFtgKZtrzxPDWTv2RJnU6qH7kQubKDRr92NdnaoQN/ BZAZsR8vn74FQnwuax0veT9vrBmIAkxDL8fr1SX/SJtInyA2uTqd/otZVIlPc1msozUc MoPxVLMNR2Vl8AwpAw6UNCLG8M88qjdSraD4o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.55.5 with SMTP id s5mr1626327wbg.92.1315856599531; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.80.234 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:43:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, David Demelier Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: devel/git new update des not fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:43:21 -0000 > > Since my new update of ports tree : > > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE > ===> Found saved configuration for git-1.7.4.3 > => git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles//. > => Attempting to fetch > http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 > fetch: http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: > Service Unavailable It looks like you do not have the latest revision of devel/git: $FreeBSD: ports/devel/git/Makefile,v 1.112 2011/09/10 01:56:16 wxs Exp $ which adds some alternative mirrors while kernel.org conduct an audit following the recent security breach there. Cf. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-September/070052.html From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 19:43:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356031065677 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@cassiba.com) Received: from mail.megalomaniacal.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f0e:2ac::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F438FC1A for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:43:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.1.1.11] (unknown [10.1.1.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.megalomaniacal.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 19C981D7A6A; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:43:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4E6E60E5.1090000@cassiba.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:43:33 -0500 From: Sam Cassiba User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110901 Thunderbird/6.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Demelier References: <4E6E5D91.9020701@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E6E5D91.9020701@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devel/git new update des not fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sam@cassiba.com List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:43:35 -0000 On 09/12/11 14:29, David Demelier wrote: > Hello, > > Since my new update of ports tree : > > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE > ===> Found saved configuration for git-1.7.4.3 > => git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles//. > => Attempting to fetch > http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 > fetch: http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: > Service Unavailable > => Attempting to fetch > http://www.us.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 > fetch: > http://www.us.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: No > address record > => Attempting to fetch > http://www.no.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 > fetch: > http://www.no.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: No > address record > => Attempting to fetch > http://www.de.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 > fetch: > http://www.de.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: No > address record > => Attempting to fetch > http://www.it.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 > fetch: > http://www.it.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: No > address record > => Attempting to fetch > http://www.ru.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 > fetch: > http://www.ru.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: No > address record > => Attempting to fetch > http://www.au.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 > fetch: > http://www.au.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: No > address record > => Attempting to fetch > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2 > fetch: > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/git-1.7.6.1.tar.bz2: > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this > => port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles// and try again. > *** Error code 1 > > Cheers, > You likely need to update your ports. MASTER_SITES for devel/git was changed to ${MASTER_SITE_GENTOO} a couple days ago since the kernel.org network is still recovering. -- Sam Cassiba From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 19:58:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF481065670; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803D58FC18; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:58:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:2d7d:e6bb:877a:7b03]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 58EE34AC1C; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:58:41 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:58:33 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <181642832.20110912235833@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <4E6E60C7.90304@FreeBSD.org> References: <503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru> <865325899.20110912230621@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E6E60C7.90304@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:58:42 -0000 Hello, Doug. You wrote 12 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8F=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2011 =D0=B3.,= 23:43:03: > It's not as easy to represent the data in the way you describe as you > might think. Something like gcc is going to have multiple entry points > in a graph, which is really hard to represent in a (sort of) > 1-dimensional structure like a tree. Forest will be Ok, too :) It seems, that root of gcc44 dependency is x264, but I'm not sure, that it is ONLY root. > I would imagine that all of the ones you compiled with it do since they > are almost certainly linked with the libgcc that comes with gcc44. [many bad words skipped]. WHY, OH, WHY libgcc is not used as static library?! It is only implementation of some intrinsics, am I right? And now gcc4 is DEPRECATED, so I need to rebuild ANY port, which is depend on it (via some wired paths, whose I cannot not easily track) to update it to gcc45?! Ouch. How could I determine which ports are directly lined with libgcc from gcc44? ldd? But x264 itself (yes, it is built with GCC44 option) is not linked to libgcc: blob# ldd /usr/local/bin/x264 /usr/local/bin/x264: libgpac.so.1 =3D> /usr/local/lib/libgpac.so.1 (0x800812000) libz.so.5 =3D> /lib/libz.so.5 (0x800be3000) libm.so.5 =3D> /lib/libm.so.5 (0x800cf8000) libthr.so.3 =3D> /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x800e18000) libc.so.7 =3D> /lib/libc.so.7 (0x800f31000) libssl.so.6 =3D> /usr/lib/libssl.so.6 (0x801172000) libcrypto.so.6 =3D> /lib/libcrypto.so.6 (0x8012c5000) libjpeg.so.11 =3D> /usr/local/lib/libjpeg.so.11 (0x801565000) libpng.so.6 =3D> /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.6 (0x80169b000) I could check all binaries and shared libs, of course, (find, xargs, ldd), but it is not what I call "user friendly" :( --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 20:05:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24DE1065670; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 172-17-198-245.globalsuite.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5263014EA99; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4E6E6607.2030104@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:05:27 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110912 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lev@FreeBSD.org References: <503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru> <865325899.20110912230621@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E6E60C7.90304@FreeBSD.org> <181642832.20110912235833@serebryakov.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <181642832.20110912235833@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: undefined OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:05:27 -0000 On 09/12/2011 12:58, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > How could I determine which ports are directly lined with libgcc from > gcc44? ldd? Yes, that's really the only answer. I have the following function which would work: old_libs () { local file nf; [ -e ~/old-lib-list ] && unlink ~/old-lib-list; cd /usr/local/ || { echo 'cd to /usr/local/ failed'; return 1 }; for file in `find GNUstep bin lib* sbin -type f 2>/dev/null`; do case "$file" in lib\/firefox* | lib\/linux-* | lib\/thunderbird*) continue ;; esac; if nf=`ldd -a $file 2>/dev/null | egrep "(not found|${1:-asjklssafjklasdfjkl})"`; then echo $file; echo $nf; echo ''; fi; done > ~/old-lib-list; cd -; if [ ! -s ~/old-lib-list ]; then echo 'Nothing found'; unlink ~/old-lib-list; fi } You could run old_libs and it would tell you which things are linked against it. Alternatively you could do the following with portmaster: portmaster -o lang/gcc45 gcc-4.4 portmaster -R -r gcc-4.5 hth, Doug -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 20:25:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70454106564A for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:25:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-ports@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3018FC12 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R3D3p-0003Ls-3z for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:24:57 +0200 Received: from p57915e97.dip.t-dialin.net ([87.145.94.151]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:24:57 +0200 Received: from jumper99 by p57915e97.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:24:57 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: "Helmut Schneider" Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:24:44 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p57915e97.dip.t-dialin.net User-Agent: XanaNews/1.19.1.194 X-Ref: news.gmane.org ~XNS:0000002F Subject: Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:25:00 -0000 Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Is here console tool, which shows dependency tree of installed ports > from "required" port to "users"? pkg_tree performs opposite task. > > +REQUIRED_BY is flat list, unfortunately. > > I need to investigate exact path why this port is installed on my > system :) Neither I'm a perl expert nor it is final but hth anyway. http://www.charlieroot.de/bsd/pkg_depends.pl From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 20:36:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF63106564A for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:36:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gcr+freebsd-ports@tharned.org) Received: from roadkill.tharned.org (roadkill.tharned.org [75.145.12.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED1F8FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from roadkill.tharned.org (11008@roadkill.tharned.org [75.145.12.185]) (authenticated bits=0) by roadkill.tharned.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8CKQdQ9024028 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:26:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from gcr+freebsd-ports@tharned.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tharned.org; s=2011; t=1315859199; bh=7Tz1Xik2lzapgrxitEZoLzk2tyQJnmmjoeKaoNtGaIY=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DPqJUxPi2LTSj6UMmcrsgZBUpq3yloKpXEqQ+QgoTakgAEOowzxXrpVEDDzgq+CLq /V1j8QXF5IWrr0VP3kQyz0w8+UvGFT5ZrimVVK5V8A5gi3SkAy9MttloDFsh4/dYEG yNXCOQ3YL4DCEZd5ZOJ+KCpDLC9cu3bbm2sumTJo= Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:26:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Greg Rivers To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (roadkill.tharned.org [75.145.12.185]); Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:26:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [patch] audio/pulseaudio should follow new databases/gdbm version X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:36:47 -0000 Looks like the dependence of pulseaudio on gdbm was missed. The audio/pulseaudio Makefile needs the following change, and the port should have its version bumped. I noticed this when KDE4's kontact stopped working after the gdbm update. -- Greg Rivers --- Makefile.old 2011-09-12 15:10:46.000000000 -0500 +++ Makefile 2011-09-12 15:10:57.000000000 -0500 @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@ LIB_DEPENDS= samplerate.1:${PORTSDIR}/audio/libsamplerate \ speexdsp.1:${PORTSDIR}/audio/speex \ dbus-1.3:${PORTSDIR}/devel/dbus \ - gdbm.3:${PORTSDIR}/databases/gdbm \ + gdbm.4:${PORTSDIR}/databases/gdbm \ execinfo:${PORTSDIR}/devel/libexecinfo \ ck-connector.0:${PORTSDIR}/sysutils/consolekit From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 20:56:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96086106564A for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:56:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8458FC17 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 184-78-197-203.war.clearwire-wmx.net ([184.78.197.203] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R3DXp-0004LS-Mo for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:55:34 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:55:55 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:55:55 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110912205555.GC51718@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:56:01 -0000 --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Helmut Schneider on Monday, 12 September 2011: > Lev Serebryakov wrote: >=20 > > Is here console tool, which shows dependency tree of installed ports > > from "required" port to "users"? pkg_tree performs opposite task. > >=20 > > +REQUIRED_BY is flat list, unfortunately. > >=20 > > I need to investigate exact path why this port is installed on my > > system :) >=20 > Neither I'm a perl expert nor it is final but hth anyway. >=20 > http://www.charlieroot.de/bsd/pkg_depends.pl >=20 Thanks for that, Helmut! --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJObnHbAAoJEIpckszW26+RHtgIAL1MGddLu+YXB7imzL5fB/WW yFy+TX3KHX0QOyahQHJWG6kRRRZDpLwj5nJpRFG8pmwiEmYqTfUvqYF8zKHyRlAg IVocUZYIjziFEXQun2gwpcjp+oRMk84yt4Sa5hg/h/YI59kZZCT6ZtPIP+yylvAC qTPKPFVsxvs1Ia0ypy16mJiRX4MncPvOcJjc/6NqIx/l9pbwKHfT5HWFPulZTXzH O1BRgI8Mj7vUve/Rfgx/5PFoDyZo3XA8mtsFiCVQ1hFg2CMIFNxHwx24Dzan4dm8 A3uqMpfpTk49z64OPx6Wk3UX8igs/x57Ygr3yRzMq090B58MUa9chGTolLrtyKs= =SjQl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 22:22:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2835F106564A; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varga.michal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0F48FC16; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxg9 with SMTP id 9so2003004fxg.13 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:22:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:content-type:organization:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BL0BvpsN2fQnTnuOlmkMriK4beN1IOjfqveo+Feo424=; b=Ck+LEpCbacbGkN7jwxr2k7nhD0SZI9qqsIGMb0Mt/c2Ai0ioSDZsFN6uV9vBTwRkik d0opdyuhVwi1BZxFSG6wbIrwF4YCNK2/J3INrP9cH215ic1rgMSvXhMlQdAWYS64IGwp MvdoV+CLAnvMCR0ZMTHbqxjJKNSKMaUIM2lxs= Received: by 10.223.44.71 with SMTP id z7mr559055fae.24.1315864560411; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.101.2] (254.166.broadband10.iol.cz [90.177.166.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e17sm2033285fae.17.2011.09.12.14.55.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:55:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Michal Varga To: gabor@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Stonehenge Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:55:56 +0200 Message-ID: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:22:18 -0000 Dear maintainer of databases/gdbm, Thank you for committing the latest update of gdbm with a (nowhere to be found mentioned in UPDATING) shared library bump, which again makes my very dull FreeBSD installation a little bit more fun to maintain, and especially - *use* After all, it's been now running for close to a week without almost any minor ports breakage, so I presume that alone warrants a quick fix to that whole very boring and uneventful situation, of course: $ mplayer /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgdbm.so.3" not found, required by "libpulse.so.0" [And I'm not going bother posting the remaining epic crashing cascade of all the other running PA applications, because then I might like, even start to sound somewhat negative-ish for a short moment, and who would possibly want to do that in the wholly beautiful day like this?] Anyway, what I was going to say in the first place... Ah, right - because, there is like, no possibility that a thing like gdbm might be actually used as a dependency somewhere, like for example, this tiny little unimportant piece of whateverish whatever called pulseaudio, I presume? I mean, what the heck, it's not like it's something as important as, say, a major sound system heavily employed in at least one of the two largest desktop environments of the current Unix world, so who could even care? Or, why even bother with a quick grep or some recursive checking? It's not that if the update breaks anything, nobody will step up to complain, and not that those crazy people out there can be seriously using FreeBSD as their main desktop OS, heck, FreeBSD even haz sound nao? And, anyway, it's Monday, real men would *hate* to start their weeks without spending an hour or few fixing a cascade of new port breakages, that goes without a question, no arguments from me. "So yeah, ok," one would probably mutter to himself, "I see it's simply that time of week again, so I'll just, like, rebuild everything recursively to catch the latest bump as we do now every odd week anyway and just get over it, not that there is anything better to do as the system is already totally unusable (again).." So yeah, that's easy fix, here we go then: ---> Reinstalling 'pulseaudio-0.9.22' (audio/pulseaudio) ---> Build of audio/pulseaudio started at: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:40:13 +0200 ---> Building '/usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio' ===> Cleaning for pulseaudio-0.9.22 ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE ===> Found saved configuration for pulseaudio-0.9.22 ===> Extracting for pulseaudio-0.9.22 => SHA256 Checksum OK for pulseaudio-0.9.22.tar.gz. ===> Patching for pulseaudio-0.9.22 ===> pulseaudio-0.9.22 depends on package: libtool>=2.4 - found ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for pulseaudio-0.9.22 ===> pulseaudio-0.9.22 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.22 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/x11.pc - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.22 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/sm.pc - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.22 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xtst.pc - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.22 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/ice.pc - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.22 depends on package: libtool>=2.4 - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.22 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.22 depends on executable: pkg-config - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.22 depends on shared library: samplerate.1 - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.22 depends on shared library: speexdsp.1 - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.22 depends on shared library: dbus-1.3 - found ===> pulseaudio-0.9.22 depends on shared library: gdbm.3 - not found ===> Verifying install for gdbm.3 in /usr/ports/databases/gdbm ===> Extracting for gdbm-1.9.1 ===> Patching for gdbm-1.9.1 [...] ===> Installing for gdbm-1.9.1 ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if databases/gdbm already installed ===> gdbm-1.9.1 is already installed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/gdbm. *** Error code 1 Yeeey. So I guess not. Now is it what we think it is? $ grep gdbm /usr/ports/audio/pulseaudio/Makefile gdbm.3:${PORTSDIR}/databases/gdbm \ Color me surprised, at this point. But I know. I know... It's not like the shared library bump was actually mentioned in the initial PR in the first place or anything... http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/160250 Oh. Right. It was. So, like... It's not that there is, actually, somehow, anyhow, possible to, dunno, maybe - NOT COMMITTING THE DAMN THING ALONE when there's absolutely positively 100% guarantee that stuff depending on it WILL INSTANTLY AND COMPLETELY BREAK. Because, not like that a one single quick look would reveal that. And I'm not even mentioning some actual real testing AND properly solving the case for the whole dependency tree first, BEFORE committing just the one port alone, because... If that was happening, what would then be all those end-users even doing all those empty days, other than rolling back ports and catching up/fixing breakages? For myself, I surely can't even imagine. So again, thank you for taking your part in ensuring that my days with FreeBSD (the remaining few, so to say) won't become too boring. It's much appreciated, really. m. -- Michal Varga, Stonehenge (Gmail account) From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 23:06:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB271065672 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f44.google.com (mail-vw0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413C68FC16 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws12 with SMTP id 12so4172723vws.17 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.172.202 with SMTP id be10mr90104vdc.47.1315868762226; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-105-057.nc.res.rr.com [76.182.105.57]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bp4sm11309562vdc.0.2011.09.12.16.06.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3RyPrR2yCvz2CG4h for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:05:58 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:06:03 -0000 On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:55:56 +0200 Michal Varga articulated: > So again, thank you for taking your part in ensuring that my days with > FreeBSD (the remaining few, so to say) won't become too boring. It's > much appreciated, really. Seriously now, I thought I was the only one allowed to criticize FreeBSD for {Pick a topic}. You have to remember the motto: "Criticizing Microsoft if to be considered constructive criticism; criticizing {name your OS} is blasphemy and hate mongering and will immediately lead to a flame war." Now that you have vented, have you filed a PR against this behavior/port/WTF? If not, I would recommend you do so. -- Jerry Б°▄ jerry+ports@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 23:12:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A141065670; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier@gid0.org) Received: from mail-qw0-f45.google.com (mail-qw0-f45.google.com [209.85.216.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EE68FC0A; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:12:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj8 with SMTP id 8so4719008qwj.18 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 16:12:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.59.135 with SMTP id l7mr4083787qch.251.1315867394359; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.223.196 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:43:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:43:14 +0200 Message-ID: From: Olivier Smedts To: Michal Varga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: ports@freebsd.org, gabor@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:12:15 -0000 2011/9/12 Michal Varga : > Dear maintainer of databases/gdbm, > > Thank you for committing the latest update of gdbm with a (nowhere to be > found mentioned in UPDATING) shared library bump, which again makes my > very dull FreeBSD installation a little bit more fun to maintain, and > especially - *use* > > After all, it's been now running for close to a week without almost any > minor ports breakage, so I presume that alone warrants a quick fix to > that whole very boring and uneventful situation, of course: > > $ mplayer > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgdbm.so.3" not found, required > by "libpulse.so.0" I don't want to participate in any flamewar or conversation about how freebsd ports in general should work, and I'm sure you know what you're doing, but as a quick note (for you or anyone), if you use something like "portmaster" to update your ports, you can use the "-w" switch to save the old libs in /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg/ in case of bump. Really useful to not break your system. Cheers --=20 Olivier Smedts=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0 _ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) e-mail: olivier@gid0.org=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 - against HTML email & vCards=A0 X www: http://www.gid0.org=A0 =A0 - against proprietary attachments / \ =A0 "Il y a seulement 10 sortes de gens dans le monde : =A0 ceux qui comprennent le binaire, =A0 et ceux qui ne le comprennent pas." From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 23:20:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECA01065675 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:20:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4868D8FC0C for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE81814E5FD3; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 01:01:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.mypc.hu Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id s3hyUxhzrLT5; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 01:01:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.106] (catv-80-98-232-12.catv.broadband.hu [80.98.232.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C25BA14E5FBA; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 01:01:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E6E8F3D.8070406@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 01:01:17 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:9.0a1) Gecko/20110901 Thunderbird/9.0a1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michal Varga References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> In-Reply-To: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:20:47 -0000 On 2011.09.12. 23:55, Michal Varga wrote: > Dear maintainer of databases/gdbm, > > Thank you for committing the latest update of gdbm with a (nowhere to be > found mentioned in UPDATING) shared library bump, which again makes my > very dull FreeBSD installation a little bit more fun to maintain, and > especially - *use* > [ Irony ignored. Btw, your Hungarian first name speaks for itself. ;) ] I did see the notice in the PR and I did grep the tree and I did bump lots of ports. I'm also surprised how I did not notice some of the ports. I apologize from the affected people. Btw, from your long mail I see you have lots of free time. You should think of spending that better than writing such long mails. Think about being a FreeBSD volunteer. ;) Regards, Gabor From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 12 23:28:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC63D106564A for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:28:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from code@apotheon.net) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C4818FC12 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8975 invoked by uid 0); 12 Sep 2011 23:28:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2011 23:28:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.net; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=+Vd7V8eeI7UPD2RjFXAc5UDWWLKqYwtVSri659ezdR8=; b=ZZL+Q4q1L05f729hp9BsBB3G8GZ87sCCrzjEk6oJSEpJ1AJRozqJvHuOqXnwrTMIQ0Xk5644JU2l0QpffQac4GugU+tcJ3EFj61xOBwYT+5tKjUCUwdKKxs9qIl1FGO0; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R3Fvf-0006aa-4o for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:28:44 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:09:43 -0600 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:09:43 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:28:44 -0000 --jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 07:05:58PM -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:55:56 +0200 > Michal Varga articulated: >=20 > > So again, thank you for taking your part in ensuring that my days with > > FreeBSD (the remaining few, so to say) won't become too boring. It's > > much appreciated, really. >=20 > Seriously now, I thought I was the only one allowed to criticize > FreeBSD for {Pick a topic}. You have to remember the motto: I found Michal Varga's critique snarky and unnecessarily sarcastic, but on-point and lacking in unreasonable choices of what to criticize. I cannot say the same for the majority of yours. >=20 > Now that you have vented, have you filed a PR against this > behavior/port/WTF? If not, I would recommend you do so. =2E . . as would I. It's interesting you got around to saying something useful. Keep up the good work. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5ukTcACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVdiQCffE4znuGsKeadLp0O5goXBsgQ YX4An1ACrVyUOxpqr5dCQIuW2kzZ78pt =gjEg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jL2BoiuKMElzg3CS-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 00:19:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46F1106564A for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Received: from wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FA98FC19 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8CNk4Zd032130 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:46:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Message-ID: <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:46:04 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:19:35 -0000 On 09/12/2011 06:09 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 07:05:58PM -0400, Jerry wrote: >> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:55:56 +0200 >> Michal Varga articulated: >> >>> So again, thank you for taking your part in ensuring that my days with >>> FreeBSD (the remaining few, so to say) won't become too boring. It's >>> much appreciated, really. >> >> Seriously now, I thought I was the only one allowed to criticize >> FreeBSD for {Pick a topic}. You have to remember the motto: > > I found Michal Varga's critique snarky and unnecessarily sarcastic... I agree that it was unnecessarily sarcastic. We all make mistakes from time to time. Michal could have pointed out the mistake and still been nice about it. I know for myself that when I make a mistake like this that I feel bad enough as it is, and I don't need anyone rubbing it in. Stephen From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 00:32:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB455106564A for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 172-17-198-245.globalsuite.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B003815108F; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4E6EA48F.9050001@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:32:15 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110912 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: undefined OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:32:15 -0000 On 09/12/2011 16:46, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > We all make mistakes from time to time. Michal could have pointed out > the mistake and still been nice about it. I know for myself that when I > make a mistake like this that I feel bad enough as it is, and I don't > need anyone rubbing it in. Having just posted about his ongoing problems with ports stability I can feel Michal's pain, so hopefully we can all agree to cut *each other* some slack, and move on. :) Meanwhile, as someone else suggested 'portmaster -w' is a good tool here, and if you want to be really thorough (at the risk of potentially upgrading more than you need to) then 'portmaster -r gdbm' will kill the gnat with a hammer, so to speak. Doug -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 00:36:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A108B106566B; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerald@pfeifer.com) Received: from ainaz.pair.com (ainaz.pair.com [209.68.2.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFB08FC0C; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from g159.suse.de (charybdis-ext.suse.de [195.135.221.2]) by ainaz.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9E7513F416; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:19:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:19:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Gerald Pfeifer To: Doug Barton , Wesley Shields , ports@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20110523130954.GB71868@atarininja.org> Message-ID: References: <20110523130954.GB71868@atarininja.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Emanuel Haupt Subject: Re: How to best run a script post installation _and_ deinstallation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:36:01 -0000 On Sun, 22 May 2011, Doug Barton wrote: > Will @unexec in pkg-plist do the job? On Mon, 23 May 2011, Wesley Shields wrote: > Are these what you are looking for: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/pkg-install.html > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/pkg-deinstall.html Yes and no (to both questions). I have been looking for a silver bullet that avoids having (a) something in the post-install target plus an @exec and an @unexec and thus redundancy, or (b) two extra scripts and thus two extra files in the port. Alas, I failed at that, and Emanuel convinced me that apparently there is no way to avoid one of these two deaths. That looks like a nice project for someone to improve our general infrastructure along these lines. Gerald From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 01:13:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8738E106566C for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 01:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from spartan.hamla.org (spartan.hamla.org [206.251.255.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A358FC0A for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 01:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spartan.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1D7170E5 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:14:02 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tandon.net; h= user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :content-type:mime-version:references:reply-to:message-id :subject:subject:from:from:date:date:received:received; s=aegis; t=1315876442; bh=REQBCFZR+JVpVUe7GtF1IwofXeEDqOa5qZhQgUtn3Q0=; b= FtZvNbwvBWK3AopJtpGOrmH0IpbKT0c4LBGjvTgV/N3sgVYGcdutjCPwntVYDgkv A8PQBISP8kLEhQyLni/l4JoX2eKAIAvuMkHSRSNekX7e7dvr1H4wQ1W//YSZqoEQ jK2yhQ9TDJXKGLku5rAW7MfSTbea2IDPelAwKktISxA= X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at spartan.hamla.org Received: from spartan.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (spartan.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id slZUVIgXN830 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic.hamla.org (cpe-68-174-92-20.nyc.res.rr.com [68.174.92.20]) by spartan.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B16AF170E3 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:14:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:13:29 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110913011328.GD7559@magic.hamla.org> References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <4E6E8F3D.8070406@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E6E8F3D.8070406@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 01:13:33 -0000 On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 01:01:17 +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > On 2011.09.12. 23:55, Michal Varga wrote: > [ Irony ignored. Btw, your Hungarian first name speaks for itself. ;) ] > > I did see the notice in the PR and I did grep the tree and I did > bump lots of ports. I'm also surprised how I did not notice some of > the ports. I apologize from the affected people. No problem, Gabor. Thanks for fixing the issue as quickly as you could. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 01:18:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92BA1065672 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 01:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from spartan.hamla.org (spartan.hamla.org [206.251.255.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C398FC15 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 01:18:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spartan.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3205170E5 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:18:36 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tandon.net; h= user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :content-type:mime-version:references:reply-to:message-id :subject:subject:from:from:date:date:received:received; s=aegis; t=1315876716; bh=Y/nJky5GvSND/va+/lzhZqt6TlZ5RMtZTElpd8DOLvM=; b= cx3OESG8iEl6w0QTOOH77MrtLkbpjvR4uVYAG9WQDoul7T+Vzu4m+w6ZxBG6aDoW /+GbZTYiRIL0/LInqESF6g0w7NGe+DE2ndF0G2mrGUQNRlRq16JVlZ/PTSofE1Vz B+dVXU7vnciFoFgaN9oiFXyI1+EMexirL7tyCn97JHo= X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at spartan.hamla.org Received: from spartan.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (spartan.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id sG7M68k7jddt for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic.hamla.org (cpe-68-174-92-20.nyc.res.rr.com [68.174.92.20]) by spartan.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 22FFC170E3 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:18:04 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110913011803.GE7559@magic.hamla.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [patch] audio/pulseaudio should follow new databases/gdbm version X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 01:18:07 -0000 On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 15:26:39 -0500, Greg Rivers wrote: > Looks like the dependence of pulseaudio on gdbm was missed. The > audio/pulseaudio Makefile needs the following change, and the port > should have its version bumped. > > I noticed this when KDE4's kontact stopped working after the gdbm update. Thanks for the report (and patch) Greg. We missed this when bumping various ports that were affected by the gdbm update. I'm sorry for this inconvenience. Gabor addressed the oversight a little while ago, so please update your tree and try again. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 07:01:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36089106567B; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D1D8FC19; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:2d7d:e6bb:877a:7b03]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B379F4AC1C; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:01:22 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:01:14 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <801150301.20110913110114@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <4E6E6607.2030104@FreeBSD.org> References: <503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru> <865325899.20110912230621@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E6E60C7.90304@FreeBSD.org> <181642832.20110912235833@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E6E6607.2030104@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:01:25 -0000 Hello, Doug. You wrote 13 =F1=E5=ED=F2=FF=E1=F0=FF 2011 =E3., 0:05:27: > On 09/12/2011 12:58, Lev Serebryakov wrote: >> How could I determine which ports are directly lined with libgcc from >> gcc44? ldd?=20 > Yes, that's really the only answer. I have the following function which > would work: libchk port could help, too. But it seems top be broken. It shows, that system /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 depends on gcc44's libgcc_s.so and it is completely wrong! I'll fill pr about it! > You could run old_libs and it would tell you which > things are linked against it. > Alternatively you could do the following with portmaster: > portmaster -o lang/gcc45 gcc-4.4 > portmaster -R -r gcc-4.5 Yep, but it is very long way when you have, say, kde4 installed. It is why I want to determine MINIMAL set of ports, which are REALLY depend on gcc4 For example, x264 DEPENDS on gcc, (has USE_GCC=3D4.4+ in Makefile), but no x264 files are linked with libgcc_s.so or other libraries from gcc44. It seems, that we need separate USE_GCC_BUILD and USE_GCC_RUN, as with PERL or PYTHON. --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 07:12:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66A6106564A; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88DC8FC17; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:2d7d:e6bb:877a:7b03]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6C9BB4AC1C; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:12:29 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:12:21 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1859284079.20110913111221@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: ports@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <801150301.20110913110114@serebryakov.spb.ru> References: <503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru> <865325899.20110912230621@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E6E60C7.90304@FreeBSD.org> <181642832.20110912235833@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E6E6607.2030104@FreeBSD.org> <801150301.20110913110114@serebryakov.spb.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Doug Barton , gerald@FreeBSD.org Subject: USE_GCC and unnesessary RUN_DENEDS on gcc port (Was: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:12:31 -0000 Hello, Lev. You wrote 13 =F1=E5=ED=F2=FF=E1=F0=FF 2011 =E3., 11:01:14: > For example, x264 DEPENDS on gcc, (has USE_GCC=3D4.4+ in Makefile), > but no x264 files are linked with libgcc_s.so or other libraries from > gcc44. It seems, that we need separate USE_GCC_BUILD and USE_GCC_RUN, > as with PERL or PYTHON. Or, maybe automate this, as now port system warns user about "possible network servers" -- check all installed binaries and libraries for linkage with non-system-gcc libraries and add "run" dependency. But I'm not sure it is easy to do, as it should be done after installation, when, I afraid, adding RUN_DEPEND at this stage doesn't help, so this automatic should make all depends-related work (+REQUIRED_BY / +CONTENT) "by hands". --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 07:31:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55174106566C; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21298FC1F; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywp17 with SMTP id 17so241950ywp.13 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:31:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZMR2zjsfOQXPWraPaBHgdzKkrU9Jiv3nI/myA9aETh8=; b=grulkNvoT2pjsvtOVa+XgkXKfC7l5Kfwk8Hkijd4lv3M+Va2ToGdc5vsg/s4UWb8e3 q96HsmDIQ7WVSC1N8uC+FlPMsQepCgK5IEdR9+dmurpLOpRuuL3fIFUJfZz53McIV4pc wOplbZOr2E1fM8RJPThcwfWpf7ZpX/fUFUWbg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.25.80 with SMTP id y16mr8435905ibb.71.1315899070197; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:31:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110523130954.GB71868@atarininja.org> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:31:10 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Gerald Pfeifer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Wesley Shields , Doug Barton , Emanuel Haupt Subject: Re: How to best run a script post installation _and_ deinstallation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:31:11 -0000 On 13 Sep 2011 01:36, "Gerald Pfeifer" wrote: > > On Sun, 22 May 2011, Doug Barton wrote: > > Will @unexec in pkg-plist do the job? > > On Mon, 23 May 2011, Wesley Shields wrote: > > Are these what you are looking for: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/pkg-install.html > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/pkg-deinstall.html > > Yes and no (to both questions). > > I have been looking for a silver bullet that avoids having > (a) something in the post-install target plus an @exec and an @unexec > and thus redundancy, or > (b) two extra scripts and thus two extra files in the port. > > Alas, I failed at that, and Emanuel convinced me that apparently there > is no way to avoid one of these two deaths. > > That looks like a nice project for someone to improve our general > infrastructure along these lines. > Most people faced with this problem redefine PKGDEINSTALL to the location of the pkg-install script. Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 07:42:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2728106566B; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvs-src@yandex.ru) Received: from forward12.mail.yandex.net (forward12.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24AB98FC1F; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (smtp14.mail.yandex.net [95.108.131.192]) by forward12.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 86FFEC22F4C; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:42:26 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1315899746; bh=/hkkBRAdEDqMKP5XArJ+JmJ8PTAqaDSeEe+k/ccMGxo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UkGHeZDyqR2drYLgROHS3fjE1qcOEBn2kjedV0x16TaiETwVbwVMGdVpZdwxpejHX xA50ma2smz2UwmRaLMHVdkhGyZD3ie4k8020MzOyYa19fLZS1aoTBDGIEsGt78EgDI l+a7VxD1YSWXCITEhCueLSyDysU80GcpSpveVQTU= Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 66ABF1B604A1; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:42:26 +0400 (MSD) Received: from unknown (unknown [213.27.65.65]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id gPhmIoed-gQhC5rqP; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:42:26 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Message-ID: <4E6F0958.4010904@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:42:16 +0400 From: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110828 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juergen Dankoweit References: <4E6B7A1C.5050800@T-Online.de> In-Reply-To: <4E6B7A1C.5050800@T-Online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, clsung@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: clamsmtp-1.10_3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:42:28 -0000 Juergen Dankoweit wrote on 10.09.2011 18:54: > Hello clsung, > > sorry that I don't know your right name, so I used prefix of your email > address. > > I want to tell you that the download address of clamsmtp has changed. It > is now > http://thewalter.net/stef/software/clamsmtp/clamsmtp-1.10.tar.gz > > and not > http://memberwebs.com/stef/software/clamsmtp/clamsmtp-1.10.tar.gz > > Best regards and thanks for porting > > Juergen The document has moved here I submitted http://bugs.freebsd.org/160697 with this change. Looks like Cheng-Lung isn't here atm: can please anybody pick this maintainer timeouted pr's too, that is assigned to him? Thanks. http://bugs.freebsd.org/157964 http://bugs.freebsd.org/160051 http://bugs.freebsd.org/160523 -- Regards, Ruslan Tinderboxing kills... the drives. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 07:49:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CBA106564A for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4618FC1A for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe3 with SMTP id 3so302898wwe.31 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:49:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EqBVV21GHuv9srQ9YrEvXArjmTNlJONdwLN8F48uy7A=; b=mtUSQ0wIs1yYR9iEBSjP5BskN4FpybjlG1+0ZRvX5AgJZtM9M+QaUf9VXhdaDlQnWJ xcG9bgyJtrBXUHcnay61q9HoPvS/H21NISy2l0H4xgZhuIHwS7KS7zknqJhEsV8QdM3/ OzkD3IOaGPidCDcuLX0ByDrWXODMQ0L31U61s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.11.143 with SMTP id t15mr2648276wbt.107.1315900162682; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.80.234 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 03:49:22 -0400 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Lev Serebryakov , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: USE_GCC and unnesessary RUN_DENEDS on gcc port (Was: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:49:24 -0000 > > For example, x264 DEPENDS on gcc, (has USE_GCC=4.4+ in Makefile), > > but no x264 files are linked with libgcc_s.so or other libraries from > > gcc44. It seems, that we need separate USE_GCC_BUILD and USE_GCC_RUN, > > as with PERL or PYTHON. > Or, maybe automate this, as now port system warns user about > "possible network servers" -- check all installed binaries and > libraries for linkage with non-system-gcc libraries and add "run" > dependency. But I'm not sure it is easy to do, as it should be done > after installation, when, I afraid, adding RUN_DEPEND at this stage > doesn't help, so this automatic should make all depends-related work > (+REQUIRED_BY / +CONTENT) "by hands". The type of dependency should be established by the maintainer of the port that relies upon gcc, or by the user who sets USE_GCC in a custom build. It does not seem convenient or efficient to conduct a test of the sort you describe, and there are cases -- such as a script calling a gcc binary, or a binary using dlopen to load a gcc library -- that would complicate matters. There is already a proposal to add some more flexibility to the USE_GCC construct: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/155408 , an effort to create lighter runtime-only gcc ports, and some other simplifications: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/160507 that will make changes like you describe less of a problem. b. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 08:43:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6807C106564A for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:43:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABF78FC14 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:43:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE9F1.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.233.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p8D8hucP012439 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:43:56 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8D8hnE9028127 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:43:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8CLW1eQ095592; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:32:07 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201109122132.p8CLW1eQ095592@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Matthias Andree From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:12:35 +0200." <4E6A4903.2000103@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:32:01 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysutils/cfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:43:59 -0000 Hi, > If not, see to backups and/or migration in due time. We can't possibly > support software that is unsupported by the vendor, but that's what We already do. Been working just fine for many years. No I wont tell you where, because I don't trust you & a few other irresponsible ports crusaders who should have their commit bits revoked to protect the FreeBSD we've held dear since before version numbers. Please consider resigning. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17 Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ 22 Oct. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 08:44:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6339B1065740; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93098FC1B; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE9F1.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.233.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p8D8i7mY012460; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:08 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8D8hnEB028127; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:44:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8CLIEjZ095398; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:19:39 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201109122119.p8CLIEjZ095398@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Matthias Andree From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 09 Sep 2011 18:06:30 +0200." <4E6A3986.6030505@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:18:14 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:10 -0000 Matthias Andree wrote: > >> An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in > >> the first place). > > > > Bullshit! > > I think that suffices. If the discussion is getting emotional, we > should stop it. No. You should stop advocating killing ports, or leave, or be revoked. FreeBSD would be better without immature ports slaughterers. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17 Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ 22 Oct. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 08:44:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223B81065706; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A841E8FC17; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE9F1.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.233.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p8D8iDCp012464; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:13 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8D8hnED028127; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:44:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8CLJhk4095411; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:20:59 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201109122120.p8CLJhk4095411@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Doug Barton From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sat, 10 Sep 2011 01:40:27 PDT." <4E6B227B.5050708@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:19:43 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org" , Carsten Jensen Subject: Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:15 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Doug Barton > Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 01:40:27 -0700 > Message-id: <4E6B227B.5050708@FreeBSD.org> Doug Barton wrote: > The way that the FreeBSD project handles deleted ports is to leave them > in the CVS repository, where they are easily available to everyone who > would like to access them. > > However I think that your idea is interesting, and I'd love to see the > people who are deeply concerned about deleted ports pursue it as an > independent project. Id love to see the ports wreckers leave the project. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17 Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ 22 Oct. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 08:44:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5700E106570A for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB308FC1E for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE9F1.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.233.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p8D8iDiK012466 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:13 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8D8hnEF028127 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:44:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8CKwhZS095221; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:58:49 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201109122058.p8CKwhZS095221@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Matthias Andree From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:29:15 +0200." <4E6A4CEB.3030503@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:58:43 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: deprecated because: Development has ceased??? Maybe development is *complete* X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:15 -0000 > If the author of another package stated that maintenance ceased, that is > no longer the case. Any why let port users fall into this pit? They You advocate digging the pit. The hole where the ports was. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17 Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ 22 Oct. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 08:44:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E6C10657A4 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1368FC1C for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE9F1.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.233.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p8D8iJNQ012473; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:19 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8D8hnEH028127; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:44:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8CL7Z5f095345; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:09:00 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201109122109.p8CL7Z5f095345@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Chad Perrin From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sat, 10 Sep 2011 10:12:49 MDT." <20110910161249.GA23457@guilt.hydra> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:07:35 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports deprecations (was: sysutils/cfs) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:44:29 -0000 > No, I won't tell you which window manager, because if I want to use it > again I don't want to discover that calling it to the minds of some of > the ports people caused it to be deleted. That summarises it. I too avoided mentioning a port for fear of the immature kids who destroy ports. At least one only got his commit bit recently. Its time a few commit bits were revoked. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17 Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ 22 Oct. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 09:10:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9385106564A; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varga.michal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292D38FC19; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxg9 with SMTP id 9so434259fxg.13 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:10:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:organization :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dG9AFlz03kbg6iQFAyuaUWtZYLHiuHRGCENiBfLgdto=; b=CYamxz7yIU7FWeUDsRXvCF0VQfB5Ko6SNYg/7x8/jlSlW1rnCJgVvroWhvjGCyhmYt VhMIgt39N7BpySGIzCyVXjqqTkiAAQEhUbofEqac7esxa2SEO6cIYowZQ155Z56dwJEk tYqX8jUeVseYx0I3oluIf2Z6Tlhqrf8dGxpKU= Received: by 10.223.7.7 with SMTP id b7mr1021423fab.9.1315905055180; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.101.2] (254.166.broadband10.iol.cz [90.177.166.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l21sm988728fac.8.2011.09.13.02.10.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:10:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Michal Varga To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Stonehenge Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:10:51 +0200 Message-ID: <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Stephen Montgomery-Smith , Gabor Kovesdan Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:10:57 -0000 On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 18:46 -0500, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > I found Michal Varga's critique snarky and unnecessarily sarcastic... > > I agree that it was unnecessarily sarcastic. We all make mistakes from > time to time. Michal could have pointed out the mistake and still been > nice about it. I know for myself that when I make a mistake like this > that I feel bad enough as it is, and I don't need anyone rubbing it in. > > Stephen Honestly, I wasn't trying to pick on Gabor any specifically, because as you say, mistakes can happen. But the sad part of the story is that we're in 2011 and these kinds of mistakes still happen, over and over, till absurdity. And not just "still", they grow by magnitudes which now feels like from month to month, from week to week (and I'm not going to be experiencing this here when it finally hits the "days" scale, followed by an implosion of the Universe). I'm not writing about this for the first time (in fact this is for the last time, so hey, at least there's something on a positive note), but it has gradually become nigh impossible to use FreeBSD as a modern desktop workstation over the recent years, and especially this last year has become a true nightmare. It would be pointless to simply repeat what I already said in those previous discussions about the current - and very poor - ports quality (or more specifically, total lack of quality control procedures), and it would just get ignored again anyway (pretty good pointer being that at about the same time as the last such thread spawned, just some random bikeshedding discussion about a proper use of academic english in ports or whatever pointless crap generated ten-times the same content over like, 5 minutes tops. Because it's good to have some priorities straight.) And if it wasn't Gabor's commit that again brought my OS down to unusable level, it would be the one next week, or if we are lucky, two to three weeks from now (but that would be probably this year's record). Because the current procedures in place not only encourage these kinds of mistakes, they downright call for them. Because there are no procedures whatsoever. Not in the ecosystem-wide sense. Not the ones that are crucial to make the OS actually work as a whole. But hey, I'm not going to reiterate all that over again. It's been said. Just that before someone tells me again that I should not upgrade my ports so frequently, or that I should make (shlib, or any other) backups before any and every update (how is it that after a decade with ports such novel idea didn't even cross my mind?), or that I should keep sending patches every time my system is down again (because that's obviously the most perfect time to start checking if the update actually works), or that I should just go install PC-BSD... ...seriously guys? ...SERIOUSLY? Every time I visit my favorite restaurant, I should probably wait for a few hours too, quietly watching if someone didn't die of food poisoning before I finally order for myself, or that I should dig some old food from the fridge and just bring it over as a backup, or heck, just leave it be and simply order a pizza. Right? Are there still any more useful suggestions this time? If so, please, don't make them. Just don't. So there's just one more thing I will add and I'm done with it all (after all, I have some desktop migrations ahead of me and those penguin boxes still won't plan and install themselves, even in 2011): On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 01:01 +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Btw, from your long mail I see you have lots of free time. You should > think of spending that better than writing such long mails. Think about > being a FreeBSD volunteer. ;) Yes, only if I wasn't spending all my free time constantly fixing new breakages from latest port upgrades. I can easily see why so many people think that the whole situation is actually pretty funny, or on the opposite, that no 'situation' with ports even exists at all. Picking just randomly here: ## From: Gabor Kovesdan ## Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:9.0a1) ## From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith ## Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) [and watching this on a full-list scale is truly a sight to behold] Sadly, as an actual FreeBSD desktop user, I don't have the luxury to just keep politely filing PRs over and over or compile packs of patches every time a new untested port breaks everything, because by the time I'm done fixing all the failures (or more probably, still looking for some ways on how to resolve the remaining ones), my day is long over, and I sometimes need to even use those FreeBSD boxes as they were meant to be in the first place. So believe me, as soon as my systems are all on [insert any modern and properly maintained desktop OS/distribution that works, which based on my tests over the last few weeks quite nicely fills Arch Linux, but then many else would surely work too] and thus my current work on constantly fixing *my* FreeBSDs is cut down by 99%, I'm all hands in for some good old fashioned volunteering. You know, except that I won't have a slightest idea on how much FreeBSD ports are broken on the large scale (yes, my FreeBSD servers with a limited scope of ports still run perfectly fine over the decade, thank you), but that's but a minor issue that nobody around seems to be bothered with, so I guess I will be fine too in that case. m. -- Michal Varga, Stonehenge (Gmail account) From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 09:46:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5261065742 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss.mail@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34288FC22 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyh15 with SMTP id 15so446502wyh.13 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:46:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:x-virus-scanned:to:cc:subject:from:in-reply-to:references :x-operating-system:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=muK5XkxAoMhTWj86EE5m9yqWZyG38JgqvsVNNjamhio=; b=E7IyrjY92Trq8xMraLa1bSu+VzJZU1EtdFFY57y88PMUT18HEoloVvdl2hrRp+DSp4 uIeC2pYMWE6HR/YD1NVBmLR7PAMpA+7o5pBYG8tbMd52QejPhX5XkWA/fltQ/jnj3IEb c2f11dArMOrDPJOubSFDiCiJ4YGfG4p9wUXn8= Received: by 10.227.163.71 with SMTP id z7mr2306975wbx.24.1315905832658; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (LCaen-151-92-21-48.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.200.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o7sm1162923wbh.8.2011.09.13.02.23.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Eric Masson Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B98CF1A6; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:23:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.associated-bears.org Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org ([127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oPVDpSf6RGlN; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:23:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ECF72CF0D7; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:23:42 +0200 (CEST) To: "Julian H. Stacey" From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <201109122132.p8CLW1eQ095592@fire.js.berklix.net> (Julian H. Stacey's message of "Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:32:01 +0200") References: <201109122132.p8CLW1eQ095592@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p2 amd64 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:23:42 +0200 Message-ID: <86y5xsbxsx.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Matthias Andree , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysutils/cfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:46:26 -0000 "Julian H. Stacey" writes: Hi, > We already do. Been working just fine for many years. No I wont > tell you where, because I don't trust you & a few other irresponsible > ports crusaders who should have their commit bits revoked to protect > the FreeBSD we've held dear since before version numbers. Please > consider resigning. Well, I had to revive bash2 on a 8.2-p2 box yesterday for testing purposes, it wasn't such a big deal to get a ports tree from 2007/05, extract the port and tweak it to compile on the said box. иric Masson -- GA> Je propose donc pour le vote :le dИplacement de tous les groupes GA> avec renommage de fcol.moderated en fcol.modere Mes nommages madame. -+- FB in : - Troll poli pour Йtre honnЙte -+- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 10:22:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88F41065740; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302BE8FC0A; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:22:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8DALo5e071821; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:22:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p8DALofo071820; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:21:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:21:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <201109131021.p8DALofo071820@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, lev@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-ports User-Agent: tin/1.9.6-20101126 ("Burnside") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.5 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:22:05 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:22:13 -0000 Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Is here console tool, which shows dependency tree of installed ports > from "required" port to "users"? pkg_tree performs opposite task. Maybe this script is helpful: http://www.secnetix.de/olli/scripts/pkg_dep_view By default it displays the dependency graph of your installed packages, similar to pkg_tree, I assume (though I've never used pkg_tree). With the -t option it does the "reverse", for example "pkg_dep_view -at png-1.4.8" displays a tree of the packages that require png-1.4.8 to run. If you suspect that your package information might be broken or inconsistent, I recommend you first run "pkg_check_dependencies -q" (from the same URL directory as the first script). It will display any inconsistencies. > I need to investigate exact path why this port is installed on my > system :) Well, that's not easy to do after the fact, especially if it's only a build dependency. In this case, using "make all-depends-list" in the ports collection might be the best way to track it down. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, GeschДftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht MЭn- chen, HRB 125758, GeschДftsfЭhrer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 11:13:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539C9106566C for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:13:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afmcc@btinternet.com) Received: from nm4-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm4-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.108.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B87148FC17 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:13:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.108.228] by nm4.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2011 11:13:03 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.225] by tm1.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2011 11:13:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2011 11:13:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 635217.27329.bm@omp1002.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 16425 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2011 11:13:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=20fuKrdIzmOfaRhcdQYw9xhwbArytHwKMkpxCfhNDvnpv6oD9MUr1dRddCKInFDqFHk7iuzqsX36OVNj0jiHamamKGnG12V81I9PRqW6hPNo3A5i0z6wPYnVosWMySJ1MDDsCA+5PFZXYahpUVx+Rg9oTtiuI8MNVfotYDzlhTo= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1315912383; bh=yXfZWRA2Yfn5w9lC+/SoCtLFAcd9tyPNU9JE149h0nE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=r0vsYv89opGn6Da9LtceG1Lv1O1Hq3MYDq9dGvW15y8e+ITtaCmGugFUb9XVb5jp4yOmL7wpkVWxG6LYQI0wWhBRLuX+DUc/vY7QWPZT7J/GhrLyoHeCpZdnVM/wy6Ocfpy1127lJRfbnLxwLAXwNwi2GWph78G4SMwXqh81VH0= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: M9i67PQVM1nyS2Ckvsh44Q5ZvNBbY09SWzq4khbfWy9VkRZ WBEAC.3hA0jy9sEQkbQuCCKCVYud4kgVrdIKNZtk7F4PoRFHAs8sWkGxlkGV dK_FZVm64Z09WtV_oxg0AQcUuopIs8f9I.Cw1bXcP3ykkIFEByikmvASKWzD d2whhF8UY2RIGSW1hI.xzEKIR48Y2HliLwkUCR3NoXRLUqkYtxomUwrZULTK RaEBnXOTXwny_4HXseO9uZOqtZbfZu8hX7O6nJuSREK3zxNd4OJjKh_FnNrV IEALNe5iHQyB1YbwB4FPxQZ611hC.TOMgOpANJjB8xq96NVdvLF7t2PFKZ0R DsgLA57q_vsRS7pEjfazRjsFT5Xak2LaJ88sb3_GzaU7REukbgS.ckl6dxDI - X-Yahoo-SMTP: GbC5zv6swBDAJAX2wjERvjXPaCXFiJJLdMa.NuzRNApZ Received: from elena (afmcc@86.186.50.181 with login) by smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Sep 2011 11:13:03 +0000 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:13:02 +0100 From: Tony Mc To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110913121302.750a0d8d@elena> In-Reply-To: <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:13:05 -0000 On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:10:51 +0200 Michal Varga wrote: > I'm not writing about this for the first time (in fact this is for the > last time, so hey, at least there's something on a positive note), but > it has gradually become nigh impossible to use FreeBSD as a modern > desktop workstation over the recent years, and especially this last > year has become a true nightmare. Michal, please understand, I am not dismissing your experience, but I think to provide some balance here I have to say that I have been using FreeBSD as my desktop OS for a few (about 10) years and I honestly believe it is now better than ever. Perhaps we simply use different sets of applications, perhaps my needs are not as complex as yours. Whatever the explanation, I am constantly surprised by the quality (by which I mean a combination of stability, up-to-date-ness, security, availability of good documentation and - always difficult to quantify - simplicity/graspability) of FreeBSD, an OS I can get for absolutely nothing that is (at least for my use) significantly better than anything else I have tried, paid for or free. Of course I sometimes hit obstacles, but they are always resolved within a few days and are never showstoppers (I can live without music on my desktop for that time, since I regard that as entertainment rather than productivity). I hope you have more joy of whatever flavour of Linux you end up using, but I fear that unless your needs are primarily about entertainment, you will only find that you have swapped one set of annoyances for another. At least that is my experience every time I try Linux because of the "Ooh, shiny!" effect. Despite being colour blind, I am deeply suspicious of what looks like greener grass on the other side of a fence. By the way, an example of how FreeBSD is now better than ever (at least for me) is that I can now run 9.0-BETA2 on my IBM Thinkpad T42 and suspend/resume works. I always had difficulties there with versions 8 and earlier and needed to run Linux on that machine while running FreeBSD on my desktop. Now I run FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE on the desktop and 9.0-BETA2 on the laptop and they work together through SSH. Best, Tony From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 12:03:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA921065674; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Received: from wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE038FC15; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8DC3lAm038774; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:03:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Message-ID: <4E6F46A3.4080809@missouri.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:03:47 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michal Varga References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> In-Reply-To: <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gabor Kovesdan , "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:03:49 -0000 On 09/13/2011 04:10 AM, Michal Varga wrote: > > And if it wasn't Gabor's commit that again brought my OS down to > unusable level, it would be the one next week, or if we are lucky, two > to three weeks from now (but that would be probably this year's record). > Because the current procedures in place not only encourage these kinds > of mistakes, they downright call for them. Because there are no > procedures whatsoever. Not in the ecosystem-wide sense. Not the ones > that are crucial to make the OS actually work as a whole. But hey, I'm > not going to reiterate all that over again. It's been said. Hi Michal, I see where you are coming from. I just recently became a ports committer. Before, when I would submit ports, there were certain mistake consistently made by the committers. Now that I am a committer, I can see how the tools used by the committers would lead to these consistent mistakes. In particular, checking which ports depend on a port just updated is a particularly nasty thing to do. I get the impression that each committer has his own special way of doing this. For example, I have personally found that a simple grep won't work, because "grep xxx /usr/ports/*/Makefile*" just creates a line too long for the shell to handle. I use a shell construction involving "find" but I wonder how others do the same thing. My day job is taking a lot of my time right now. But when things start to calm down, I'll start thinking about changes to the ecosystem of FreeBSD ports committing, and creating a set of more unified tools for the other ports committers to look at. Finally, I did notice that since the overheated conversation of a few weeks ago, that a couple of people who wanted to update ports did contact me first. This is because I maintain ports that depend on their proposed update. So maybe your complaints are being heard, at least on one level. Best regards, Stephen From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 13:10:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69DD106566B; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011A48FC16; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.101]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id QAA02210; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:10:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4E6F5635.40807@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:10:13 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110705 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lev@FreeBSD.org References: <503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru> <865325899.20110912230621@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E6E60C7.90304@FreeBSD.org> <181642832.20110912235833@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E6E6607.2030104@FreeBSD.org> <801150301.20110913110114@serebryakov.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <801150301.20110913110114@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:10:16 -0000 on 13/09/2011 10:01 Lev Serebryakov said the following: > libchk port could help, too. But it seems top be broken. It shows, > that system /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 depends on gcc44's libgcc_s.so > and it is completely wrong! > > I'll fill pr about it! Most likely there is something wrong in your environment. libmap.conf or some such. libchk uses what ldd(1) reports and ldd reports what would happen during actual run-time linking. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 13:45:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76877106564A; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:45:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F8C8FC18; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:2d7d:e6bb:877a:7b03]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 90F7B4AC1C; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:45:48 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:45:40 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1743955749.20110913174540@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Andriy Gapon In-Reply-To: <4E6F5635.40807@FreeBSD.org> References: <503309410.20110912205856@serebryakov.spb.ru> <865325899.20110912230621@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E6E60C7.90304@FreeBSD.org> <181642832.20110912235833@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E6E6607.2030104@FreeBSD.org> <801150301.20110913110114@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E6F5635.40807@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Print +REQUIRED_BY as tree? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:45:50 -0000 Hello, Andriy. You wrote 13 =F1=E5=ED=F2=FF=E1=F0=FF 2011 =E3., 17:10:13: >> I'll fill pr about it! > Most likely there is something wrong in your environment. > libmap.conf or some such. it is empty. > libchk uses what ldd(1) reports and ldd reports what would happen during = actual > run-time linking. ldd run manually, from same system account, same environment, smae shell as libchk is run, shows proper dependencies. So, problem is with environment, prepared by libchk. --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 13:49:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D33106564A for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from code@apotheon.net) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 630988FC16 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1499 invoked by uid 0); 13 Sep 2011 13:49:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 13 Sep 2011 13:49:01 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.net; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=t/+fTkJSxE4F2NY9lQKbZTJ6sW0pPmOG40XXPf/Mf8Y=; b=MmPGcGuYDoZNczNaEIdLQ3MXDrS8FQTMMhKJJHWLs+ysF22eJkMZacTGM0JvNDucWzWychthyXIEQBQ4thfcS4FUJrFLU9r9cEHXy1PPEkHQTxKuUQLRN3Q8Hf/zh9Oe; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R3TMB-0000zO-VW; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:49:01 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:29:58 -0600 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:29:58 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: Michal Varga Message-ID: <20110913132958.GB36564@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: Michal Varga , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WhfpMioaduB5tiZL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:49:01 -0000 --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:10:51AM +0200, Michal Varga wrote: >=20 > So believe me, as soon as my systems are all on [insert any modern and > properly maintained desktop OS/distribution that works, which based on > my tests over the last few weeks quite nicely fills Arch Linux, but then > many else would surely work too] and thus my current work on constantly > fixing *my* FreeBSDs is cut down by 99%, I'm all hands in for some good > old fashioned volunteering. In my experience, FreeBSD is actually on the high side of the stable, sanely operating, well-maintained scale. That is not to say that I find it highly stable, very sanely operating, and extremely well-maintained. It just means that everything else I've used with any regularity is even worse. That means dozens of Linux distributions and almost every MS Windows release since 3.1 way back in the early '90s. I'm not in a position to speak directly of those characteristics for Arch Linux, but not for lack of trying: the two times I tried it, the damned thing wouldn't even install. =46rom what I have seen, any time someone says "Oh, I don't have any problems with this OS at all," for *any* OS -- and that includes the couple of times I've said that over the years -- the reason for saying so is a lack of lengthy experience with that OS or just a combination of pure blind luck and very low-demand usage. Every OS I've used with any regularity really kinda blows where one kind of stability or another is concerned; most of them suck in terms of the usability of whatever is its equivalent of a userland on that system; all of them suck to varying degrees where maintenance of the OS project is concerned (no offense to the people working hard to maintain it, most of whom do very good work). My prediction is that moving to Arch Linux will probably result in temporary relief from the problems of FreeBSD, but the experience will eventually be soured by the gradual recognition of (somewhat different) problems. For the moment, FreeBSD is still the best workstation OS I have encountered, for my purposes -- after about six years. That's some kind of record for me, and this is why I'm trying to avail myself of the relevant knowledge to contribute to the project by picking up maintainership if an unmaintained port. By the way, making it easier to get this stuff "right" would help a lot: * ensuring that there's more complete documentation for port maintenance (including adding the stuff about the CVS attic to the porter's handbook) * making the documentation more approachable for beginners who may not be C programmers with an in-depth understanding of makefiles * even making the documentation and/or operation of the send-pr tools more approachable, if only because this is an interface to ports maintenance that should be available and approachable for *every* user of the OS That's just my relatively uninformed opinion. I welcome corrections of any misunderstandings under which I may labor. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5vWtYACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW0LgCfTHpNRkEFGwOrEPJfwS7Bff1x ZloAn2M0QE8uAJHBQWHvvhad+rvghlee =57EO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 14:11:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D3E1065673 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11BB8FC14 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8DEBToj081125; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:11:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p8DEBTGA081124; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:11:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:11:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <201109131411.p8DEBTGA081124@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, stephen@missouri.edu In-Reply-To: <4E6F46A3.4080809@missouri.edu> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-ports User-Agent: tin/1.9.6-20101126 ("Burnside") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.5 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:11:44 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:11:46 -0000 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > particularly nasty thing to do. I get the impression that each > committer has his own special way of doing this. For example, I have > personally found that a simple grep won't work, because "grep xxx > /usr/ports/*/Makefile*" just creates a line too long for the shell to > handle. I use a shell construction involving "find" but I wonder how > others do the same thing. cd /usr/ports echo */*/Makefile* | xargs grep xxx If your shell is zsh, you can also use zargs (see the man page for details): zargs */*/Makefile* -- grep xxx On the topic of this thread: I also use FreeBSD as desktop OS on my workstations, both at home and at the office, for about 15 years. My impression is that the quality of the ports collection improved during all that time, except for a few specific incidents. Of course it does sometimes happen that something doesn't work. That's a natural thing, given that there are more than 20k ports and several hundred people are working on it at the same time. These things are usually fixed very quickly. Sometimes there's an obscure problem that doesn't seem to happen to anybody else, so I have to debug and fix it myself (followed by PR'ing the issue, of course), but that's ok, too. This is open source after all. It should also be emphasized that old libraries should always be saved when updating ports. This would have saved Michal from the gdbm problem. portupgrade does that by default (as does portup), while portmaster requires the -w option to do that (which is unfavorable, in my opinion; it should do that by default, too). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. 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From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 15:55:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0295B106564A for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (pancho.soaustin.net [76.74.250.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8CC8FC08 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 443095615B; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:55:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:55:57 -0500 From: Mark Linimon To: "Julian H. Stacey" Message-ID: <20110913155557.GB10467@lonesome.com> References: <4E6A4903.2000103@gmx.de> <201109122132.p8CLW1eQ095592@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201109122132.p8CLW1eQ095592@fire.js.berklix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Matthias Andree , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysutils/cfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:55:58 -0000 On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:32:01PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Please consider resigning. plonk. mcl From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 16:44:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A14B1065675 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 566668FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Sep 2011 16:44:37 -0000 Received: from g230103014.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO mandree.no-ip.org) [92.230.103.14] by mail.gmx.net (mp071) with SMTP; 13 Sep 2011 18:44:37 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1827e4ImI42JYxAwjPxT6X+O3XtA+wpdxsmaFfJiB rbmIJN80iW1usC Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2BE723D34E; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:44:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E6F8873.5070403@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:44:35 +0200 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Mnenhy/0.8.3 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Julian H. Stacey" References: <201109122058.p8CKwhZS095221@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201109122058.p8CKwhZS095221@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: deprecated because: Development has ceased??? Maybe development is *complete* X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:44:40 -0000 Am 12.09.2011 22:58, schrieb Julian H. Stacey: >> If the author of another package stated that maintenance ceased, that is >> no longer the case. Any why let port users fall into this pit? They > > You advocate digging the pit. The hole where the ports was. Nonsense. It's a wanton exaggeration of someone - you - running out of objective arguments. If you'd looked at how I've removed the ports that I have removed, you know that I spent considerable amounts of time to find suitable solutions for all users (usually dependent ports). This included porting applications to DB 4.X myself so I could remove db2 and db3, working with other maintainers so we could move lzo users to lzo2, and thereabouts. Of course that is separate from the policy discussion, and my stance is clear. Even if we were to kill all deprecated ports now we'd have more than 20,000 to choose from. Keeping explosive garbage around just in case someone might want to blast his feet away with isn't maintenance, quality, or useful. We don't lose ports along that deprecation way that users would cheer about, else we'd have a lot of shouting going on already after the earlier deprecation rounds that have been run already. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 16:49:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57501065677; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aakuusta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142A68FC16; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe3 with SMTP id 3so984290wwe.31 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:49:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=rlNjGIYQTWRYed+I8QSl5ih7z7iw2CPwj2Cu0dbC3yE=; b=BPflZQSw36zIl8e1ISSwOnmwRLGCL+lhxpOJEaVlXH0IQUGDdPmnraEX7Y2qrCfJ5Q nqPoqNVBQH4OhW0cmNdjTFfhVO3TGZW4jpcMEq5J6P0xD+uu+6qZcGRUKrQ9cUtOsBsd lPC1km35JAkJRG+N55a8gYwfHPeC8TV49Jl7E= Received: by 10.227.154.19 with SMTP id m19mr2941921wbw.2.1315931208080; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nil (spftor3.privacyfoundation.ch. [62.220.135.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ex16sm962857wbb.4.2011.09.13.09.26.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:26:46 -0700 (PDT) From: h h To: Erwin Lansing In-Reply-To: <20110913113322.GX79144@droso.net> (Erwin Lansing's message of "Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:33:22 +0200") Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:25:38 +0400 Message-ID: <86vcswjtod.fsf_-_@gmail.com> References: <20110913094514.071C8106573A@hub.freebsd.org> <20110913113322.GX79144@droso.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Is WRKDIR a user- or a port-defined variable? (Re: Screwy behavior in ports framework) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:49:53 -0000 (redirect from -current@ to -ports@) Erwin Lansing writes: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:45:05AM +0000, Thomas Mueller wrote: >> >> >> PORTSDIR=/BETA1/usr/ports >> PACKAGES=/usr/packages >> WRKDIR=workb2 >> # added by use.perl 2011-09-13 02:49:43 >> PERL_VERSION=5.14.1 >> >> Maybe WRKDIR should have been ${MASTERDIR}/workb2 , or should it be ${.CURDIR}/workb2 ? > > The latter. Default for WRKDIR is ${WRKDIRPREFIX}${.CURDIR}/work, so > you'll need to include ${.CURDIR} as well. If it's supported why WRKDIR assignments are not cleaned up? databases/jasperserver/Makefile:WRKDIR= ${WRKDIRPREFIX}${.CURDIR}/work misc/py-xdelta3/Makefile:WRKDIR= ${WRKDIRPREFIX}${MASTERDIR}/work net/py-miniupnpc/Makefile:WRKDIR= ${WRKDIRPREFIX}${MASTERDIR}/work In fact, Porter's Handbook encourages its redefining unlike WRKDIRPREFIX http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/porting-wrkdir.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/porting-wrkdirprefix.html Are you talking about new policy? From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 16:52:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2B01065690 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 71B4E8FC12 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Sep 2011 16:52:33 -0000 Received: from g230103014.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO mandree.no-ip.org) [92.230.103.14] by mail.gmx.net (mp023) with SMTP; 13 Sep 2011 18:52:33 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18BS4hUJG8BD5mVXDwRLWVB5Wvi5kqg3zHV6Qa44T SRDYhH704DYGdM Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E7623CE2B for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:52:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:52:32 +0200 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Mnenhy/0.8.3 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> In-Reply-To: <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:52:35 -0000 Am 13.09.2011 11:10, schrieb Michal Varga: > On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 18:46 -0500, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > >>> I found Michal Varga's critique snarky and unnecessarily sarcastic... >> >> I agree that it was unnecessarily sarcastic. We all make mistakes from >> time to time. Michal could have pointed out the mistake and still been >> nice about it. I know for myself that when I make a mistake like this >> that I feel bad enough as it is, and I don't need anyone rubbing it in. >> >> Stephen > > Honestly, I wasn't trying to pick on Gabor any specifically, because as > you say, mistakes can happen. > > But the sad part of the story is that we're in 2011 and these kinds of > mistakes still happen, over and over, till absurdity. And not just > "still", they grow by magnitudes which now feels like from month to > month, from week to week (and I'm not going to be experiencing this here > when it finally hits the "days" scale, followed by an implosion of the > Universe). > > I'm not writing about this for the first time (in fact this is for the > last time, so hey, at least there's something on a positive note), but > it has gradually become nigh impossible to use FreeBSD as a modern > desktop workstation over the recent years, and especially this last year > has become a true nightmare. > > It would be pointless to simply repeat what I already said in those > previous discussions about the current - and very poor - ports quality > (or more specifically, total lack of quality control procedures), and it > would just get ignored again anyway (pretty good pointer being that at > about the same time as the last such thread spawned, just some random > bikeshedding discussion about a proper use of academic english in ports > or whatever pointless crap generated ten-times the same content over > like, 5 minutes tops. Because it's good to have some priorities > straight.) > > And if it wasn't Gabor's commit that again brought my OS down to > unusable level, it would be the one next week, or if we are lucky, two > to three weeks from now (but that would be probably this year's record). > Because the current procedures in place not only encourage these kinds > of mistakes, they downright call for them. Because there are no > procedures whatsoever. Not in the ecosystem-wide sense. Not the ones > that are crucial to make the OS actually work as a whole. But hey, I'm > not going to reiterate all that over again. It's been said. > > Just that before someone tells me again that I should not upgrade my > ports so frequently, or that I should make (shlib, or any other) backups > before any and every update (how is it that after a decade with ports > such novel idea didn't even cross my mind?), or that I should keep > sending patches every time my system is down again (because that's > obviously the most perfect time to start checking if the update actually > works), or that I should just go install PC-BSD... > > ...seriously guys? > > ...SERIOUSLY? > > Every time I visit my favorite restaurant, I should probably wait for a > few hours too, quietly watching if someone didn't die of food poisoning > before I finally order for myself, or that I should dig some old food > from the fridge and just bring it over as a backup, or heck, just leave > it be and simply order a pizza. Right? Are there still any more useful > suggestions this time? If so, please, don't make them. Just don't. > > So there's just one more thing I will add and I'm done with it all > (after all, I have some desktop migrations ahead of me and those penguin > boxes still won't plan and install themselves, even in 2011): > > On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 01:01 +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: >> Btw, from your long mail I see you have lots of free time. You should >> think of spending that better than writing such long mails. Think about >> being a FreeBSD volunteer. ;) > > Yes, only if I wasn't spending all my free time constantly fixing new > breakages from latest port upgrades. I can easily see why so many people > think that the whole situation is actually pretty funny, or on the > opposite, that no 'situation' with ports even exists at all. Picking > just randomly here: > > ## From: Gabor Kovesdan > ## Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:9.0a1) > > ## From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith > ## Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) > > [and watching this on a full-list scale is truly a sight to behold] > > Sadly, as an actual FreeBSD desktop user, I don't have the luxury to > just keep politely filing PRs over and over or compile packs of patches > every time a new untested port breaks everything, because by the time > I'm done fixing all the failures (or more probably, still looking for > some ways on how to resolve the remaining ones), my day is long over, > and I sometimes need to even use those FreeBSD boxes as they were meant > to be in the first place. I beg to cast a different vote here. I can say that, thanks to tools like portmaster and better documentation (of course anything can still improve), the overall experience is that as a desktop it is quite usable as far as ports are concerned these days, and I feel it has improved a lot. There have been regressions, like Skype not working on 8.2 unless you happen to have a Skype 2.0 tarball around, and there were a few weeks where you'd need to use a supported older Firefox release series if you wanted it to run the Java plugin, but by and large the experience is quite different, and better, from the days when I was running 5.X or 6.X. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 17:13:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBDC1065670 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C0D08FC19 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Sep 2011 17:13:48 -0000 Received: from g230103014.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO mandree.no-ip.org) [92.230.103.14] by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 13 Sep 2011 19:13:48 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX188pRc/m0g8AUZFcSsMfn32HD5DMJou0OZMz36VFE /J5XKSsfukRjpH Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60D323CE2B for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:13:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E6F8F4B.3060802@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:13:47 +0200 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Mnenhy/0.8.3 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <201109122132.p8CLW1eQ095592@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201109122132.p8CLW1eQ095592@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: sysutils/cfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:13:50 -0000 Am 12.09.2011 23:32, schrieb Julian H. Stacey: > Hi, >> If not, see to backups and/or migration in due time. We can't possibly >> support software that is unsupported by the vendor, but that's what > > We already do. Been working just fine for many years. No I wont > tell you where, because I don't trust you & a few other irresponsible > ports crusaders who should have their commit bits revoked to protect > the FreeBSD we've held dear since before version numbers. Please > consider resigning. Julian, while you are entitled to mention your opintion, even in Germany, that right ends where it affects other people's personal dignity, honesty and rights, and this posting of yours was trespassing the red line with the "irresponsible ports crusaders" part that is entirely inadequate. If you care to avoid prosecutors and judges, stick to the facts, and avoid insults. We can have a discussion about facts, but yours is an ad-hominem attack. And as rebuttal of your "we already do [support unsupported software]" claim, please fix, until end 2011, in mail/procmail, in collaboration with sunpoet@: - the design flaw that with a .procmailrc that consists of a set of samples from the procmail documentation you end up with random misdeliveries and possibly bounced or lost mail in the case of write hitches on the mail spool and/or your $HOME. - all things that 3.23pre (available from the rwth-aachen mirror) fixed - all things for which there are non-cosmetic TODO's in the various documents through procmail Unless and until that happens, there's no point in arguing that we were routinely and universally filling support in for upstream maintainers. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 17:35:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79130106564A; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:35:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2443B8FC08; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywp17 with SMTP id 17so806520ywp.13 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:35:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hOTBnCRRnyhCZOU8Xca/LJ9+z9MTY+k3If+736ZkYCU=; b=RIQZql5F6PEAdB5FbtyVMO1rwNw4iFa1o6Jx9Guc4P6Y7K2Wt8L5Gl8xM3eXv3YbUw C0V4aDtYiS9MCEdgRu/9Jd5B9xgUWQVRKg4ZNWeGFbGbU1sAy5SBogoXaZ02Xrc4xbBk sx0KhPVoTXswQEI8ngD0qDkTjIkI+KptdEXTA= Received: by 10.42.244.1 with SMTP id lo1mr1297938icb.419.1315935335135; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:35:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:35:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86vcswjtod.fsf_-_@gmail.com> References: <20110913094514.071C8106573A@hub.freebsd.org> <20110913113322.GX79144@droso.net> <86vcswjtod.fsf_-_@gmail.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:35:05 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: MGC4cLJ2AIAcIMxxCEGo949tUAE Message-ID: To: h h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Jason , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is WRKDIR a user- or a port-defined variable? (Re: Screwy behavior in ports framework) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:35:36 -0000 On 13 September 2011 17:25, h h wrote: > (redirect from -current@ to -ports@) > > Erwin Lansing writes: > >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:45:05AM +0000, Thomas Mueller wrote: >>> >>> >>> PORTSDIR=3D/BETA1/usr/ports >>> PACKAGES=3D/usr/packages >>> WRKDIR=3Dworkb2 >>> # added by use.perl 2011-09-13 02:49:43 >>> PERL_VERSION=3D5.14.1 >>> >>> Maybe WRKDIR should have been ${MASTERDIR}/workb2 , or should it be ${.= CURDIR}/workb2 ? >> >> The latter. =A0Default for WRKDIR is ${WRKDIRPREFIX}${.CURDIR}/work, so >> you'll need to include ${.CURDIR} as well. > > If it's supported why WRKDIR assignments are not cleaned up? > > =A0databases/jasperserver/Makefile:WRKDIR=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = ${WRKDIRPREFIX}${.CURDIR}/work > =A0misc/py-xdelta3/Makefile:WRKDIR=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0${WRKDIR= PREFIX}${MASTERDIR}/work > =A0net/py-miniupnpc/Makefile:WRKDIR=3D =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ${WRKDIRPR= EFIX}${MASTERDIR}/work > > In fact, Porter's Handbook encourages its redefining unlike WRKDIRPREFIX > > =A0http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/porting-wrkdir.ht= ml > =A0http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/porting-wrkdirpre= fix.html > > Are you talking about new policy? Hm, a bit naughty. Perhaps something like: WRKDIR=3D ${WRKDIR:S/${.CURDIR}/${MASTERDIR}/} would be more appropriate? Jasperserver seems to do some pretty terrifying things though... Jason, could you explain why you're redefining WRKDIR to the default please= ?? Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 17:42:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35343106564A for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D108FC16 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yib19 with SMTP id 19so817199yib.13 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:42:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jkh6UsyBLLx5VUWxcj0i24fdUEM9SLrJkE5Afz4wSJE=; b=rOU5fG5J5Q2SFM0FVWg0AbJvxTbkJ846X6mHptex9DyTAy6blJ8kWDveuuPu8z92cH YVRCQSb+ylv1i15RWoOaF+uKHR5d4+up4tceufUOCMIaW14YuZyUVt0vFpDzyEfuawLg 86Gzo+CWRFQAwu5dDYc8bMNn5BnjVrs0WaYNs= Received: by 10.43.51.69 with SMTP id vh5mr1701907icb.285.1315935758187; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:42:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:42:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201109122109.p8CL7Z5f095345@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <20110910161249.GA23457@guilt.hydra> <201109122109.p8CL7Z5f095345@fire.js.berklix.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:42:08 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: O8GV-qTmSWKyhoKz8iXoE5T_6V4 Message-ID: To: "Julian H. Stacey" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Chad Perrin , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports deprecations (was: sysutils/cfs) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:42:39 -0000 On 12 September 2011 22:07, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> No, I won't tell you which window manager, because if I want to use it >> again I don't want to discover that calling it to the minds of some of >> the ports people caused it to be deleted. > > That summarises it. I too avoided mentioning a port for fear of the > immature kids who destroy ports. =A0At least one only got his > commit bit recently. Its time a few commit bits were revoked. > Destroyed? Hardly. Put away for 'safe keeping', if you prefer. Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 17:45:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E27D106564A; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:45:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90AA8FC13; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf2 with SMTP id 2so819551gyf.13 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:45:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1dFqKhaPLuY2epZnYEO4q7t01HtfOslm+vTHj45gXWY=; b=KhAModyUuVqcGsfiJTqsQsAE81nDg9tWaIVgcqIUcgq95AD064ucpUDFPJb4squPGv Qz6gfDJ26vqeUvWo1jw/SkQO6YOaLng2NONhoQQm5w50rJzxEfD5inCIHKGBTfqz7q7r +O85qP2DPIHx3BF2W/waLNtQ0BEtFrxB18QLM= Received: by 10.231.6.168 with SMTP id 40mr205285ibz.71.1315935907096; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:45:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:44:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201109122119.p8CLIEjZ095398@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <4E6A3986.6030505@FreeBSD.org> <201109122119.p8CLIEjZ095398@fire.js.berklix.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:44:37 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mPmq68aBJsxymef8Zjfv9mqcx8A Message-ID: To: "Julian H. Stacey" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Matthias Andree Subject: Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:45:08 -0000 On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Matthias Andree wrote: >> >> An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported = in >> >> the first place). >> > >> > Bullshit! >> >> I think that suffices. =A0If the discussion is getting emotional, we >> should stop it. > > No. You should stop advocating killing ports, or leave, or be revoked. > FreeBSD would be better without immature ports slaughterers. > Julian, Your arguments have become excessively ad-hominem, and please don't think you're upsetting anyone in the slightest with them. Use rational and technical arguments, or take a break. Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 17:54:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E2D106564A; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740EA8FC18; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:54:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE9F1.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.233.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p8DHsgWI016270; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:54:43 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8DHsbo8062887; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:54:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8DHsUXo061135; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:54:36 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201109131754.p8DHsUXo061135@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Chris Rees From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:44:37 BST." Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:54:30 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Matthias Andree Subject: Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:54:46 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Chris Rees > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:44:37 +0100 > Message-id: Chris Rees wrote: > On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Matthias Andree wrote: > >> >> An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in > >> >> the first place). > >> > > >> > Bullshit! > >> > >> I think that suffices. ═If the discussion is getting emotional, we > >> should stop it. > > > > No. You should stop advocating killing ports, or leave, or be revoked. > > FreeBSD would be better without immature ports slaughterers. > > > > Julian, > > Your arguments have become excessively ad-hominem, and please don't > think you're upsetting anyone in the slightest with them. > > Use rational and technical arguments, or take a break. > > Chris Your proposal to remove procmail among others was ridiculous. Please consider resigning Chris. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17 Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ 22 Oct. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 17:56:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C2F106566B for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:56:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sem@semmy.ru) Received: from sunner.semmy.ru (sunner.semmy.ru [IPv6:2a00:14d0:0:20::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924D58FC1A for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dhcp170-19-red.yandex.net ([95.108.170.19]) by sunner.semmy.ru with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1R3axI-000IQZ-LF for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:55:48 +0000 Message-ID: <4E6F9949.60302@semmy.ru> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:56:25 +0400 From: Sergey Matveychuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 95.108.170.19 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: sem@semmy.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on sunner.semmy.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: checking conflicts on build stage X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:56:26 -0000 Hello. Who did the subject and why? # portupgrade -f -o /usr/ports/mail/exim exim-mysql-4.71 ===> exim-4.76 conflicts with installed package(s): exim-mysql-4.71 They install files into the same place. You may want to stop build with Ctrl + C. ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE ===> Found saved configuration for exim-4.76 => exim-4.76.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/exim. => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.exim.org/pub/exim/exim4/exim-4.76.tar.bz2 exim-4.76.tar.bz2 100% of 1568 kB 55 kBps 00m00s ===> exim-4.76 conflicts with installed package(s): exim-mysql-4.71 They will not build together. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). Why conflicts checked on fetch stage (but it's not fatal) and on build stage (fatal)? Of course, portupgrade do pkg_delete *after* build. -- Sem. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 18:25:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E608106564A; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECEF8FC1C; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxk36 with SMTP id 36so860421yxk.13 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:25:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4IeY5Zt7UcB3AlpHRobvtCe9+MLf4JUKEopYvNSy4uc=; b=l/JemTjhDNr0uvVNHxSz5nnIbd75JeI1yuwtN1PeN78BuPIqSBob/fnH+nU8S7Mz5c y8ZhVP64+3Jt8Erf8CaZAH+Pw0J+4upWY4+sHzzPGUrpEYg1nyRrsbR1D8aTa9ljcN6P duY0whwYhFrTss1dzNuYFztasrkO7g4Dx9tCw= Received: by 10.231.6.168 with SMTP id 40mr261047ibz.71.1315938331101; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:25:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:25:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201109131754.p8DHsUXo061135@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201109131754.p8DHsUXo061135@fire.js.berklix.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:25:01 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5ynA2L5mrBBUNDLh3zFJNDMDXYU Message-ID: To: "Julian H. Stacey" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Matthias Andree Subject: Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:25:32 -0000 On 13 September 2011 18:54, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi, > Reference: >> From: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Chris Rees >> Date: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:44:37 +0100 >> Message-id: =A0 > > Chris Rees wrote: >> On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> > Matthias Andree wrote: >> >> >> An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be port= ed in >> >> >> the first place). >> >> > >> >> > Bullshit! >> >> >> >> I think that suffices. =A0If the discussion is getting emotional, we >> >> should stop it. >> > >> > No. You should stop advocating killing ports, or leave, or be revoked. >> > FreeBSD would be better without immature ports slaughterers. >> > >> >> Julian, >> >> Your arguments have become excessively ad-hominem, and please don't >> think you're upsetting anyone in the slightest with them. >> >> Use rational and technical arguments, or take a break. >> >> Chris > > Your proposal to remove procmail among others was ridiculous. > Please consider resigning Chris. > Not mine. Please consider reading mailing lists properly rather than jumping to conclusions. Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 19:27:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFD2106566B for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varga.michal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f44.google.com (mail-ew0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14EE8FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so615624ewy.17 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:27:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:organization :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CKgGpNPh18iQeTptTdFGh4UPJ0YgM0ZZH68gG4igNeg=; b=PM4Ob1CAqOTwmbVQL7boUPbDM79wgFLPPNvOY3PBUmHqGOic36B0bHrrCq0D93ObTc CPrbJUT6TN5959j9BVYk2LRKHa78e7OzNCYgE375JrxGfkDvOU+HmdELwuEwgx2SirPw 6ToJnA2uaa5Fn8B0nSGUQP10oXywPyJv2fpHI= Received: by 10.223.44.90 with SMTP id z26mr2186096fae.28.1315942046564; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.101.2] (254.166.broadband10.iol.cz [90.177.166.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p9sm8124866fah.1.2011.09.13.12.27.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:27:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Michal Varga To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Stonehenge Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:27:22 +0200 Message-ID: <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:27:28 -0000 Sigh, okay. Some time earlier during the day I was still planning to address few interesting points (especially) Stephen raised, but by this time I'm finally getting to it and reading through the rest of the emails, I can see that this would only be a waste of time for everyone involved. Reading now through the posts one after another stating how FreeBSD ports/desktop experience was never more awesomestestest than it is now, I just feel like participating in some kind of bizarro 1st April joke, and the most coherent reply that comes to mind is: Wat. And again. Wat. Did I just read. I have no other words beyond that because I can't even seriously imagine what those people stating how everything is perfectly fine now consider to be a working, modern, 24/7 ready desktop workstation. Though if I had to pick a random case again, it probably wouldn't be too hard to make some wildly unsubstantiated guesses: ## From: Matthias Andree ## Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Still I thank everyone for polite replies which were actually a welcome change for this kind of threads, but as there is obviously something fundamentally different between how I and rest of you guys perceive an actually working FreeBSD (or any other, for the matter) workstation, I'm going to let it go, this is not the kind fight one would be able to win in any case. For the next years, I'll be much better off with finishing my migration to another system where the base OS will hardly ever be as good and clean as FreeBSD, but the overall quality of 24/7 ready, stable, modern desktop OS as a whole is by far too wide margin different from what I gather is currently considered 'acceptable' here, in FreeBSD (ports) circles. No offense meant, in any case. m. -- Michal Varga, Stonehenge (Gmail account) From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 19:27:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EB01065676 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8634E8FC1E for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE9F1.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.233.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p8DJRmb6016982 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:27:48 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8DJRfXM065024 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:27:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8DJRYF9061927 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:27:40 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201109131927.p8DJRYF9061927@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:44:37 BST." Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:27:34 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Subject: Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:27:51 -0000 Chris Rees wrote: > On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Matthias Andree wrote: > >> >> An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in > >> >> the first place). > >> > > >> > Bullshit! > >> > >> I think that suffices. ═If the discussion is getting emotional, we > >> should stop it. > > > > No. You should stop advocating killing ports, or leave, or be revoked. > > FreeBSD would be better without immature ports slaughterers. > > > > Julian, > > Your arguments have become excessively ad-hominem, and please don't > think you're upsetting anyone in the slightest with them. > > Use rational and technical arguments, or take a break. > > Chris Revised reply as I subsequently notice Chris Rees lack of attribution falsely implies I wrote stuff I did not. > >> >> the first place). > >> > > >> > Bullshit! I did not write that. That was From Erik Trulsson In reply to Matthias Andree Fri, 9 Sep 2011 07:22:10 +0200 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-September/070018.html Seems Chris's butcher colleague Matthias annoyed Erik too. Further Chris's unattributed chunk > > Bullshit! > > I think that suffices. If the discussion is getting emotional, we > should stop it. Was not from or to me, but was: From: Matthias Andree Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 18:06:30 +0200 To: Erik Trulsson http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-September/070075.html Only Chris's final bit had me as sender or recipient, namely: > > I think that suffices. If the discussion is getting emotional, we > > should stop it. > > No. You should stop advocating killing ports, which was not to Chris but was: From Julian H. Stacey jhs at berklix.com Tue Sep 13 08:44:10 UTC 2011 To Matthias Andree http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-September/070164.html Chris's lack of attribution checking was misleading, but not suprising, Chris Rees it was who wanted to kick out procmail. Poor judgement. A few ports butchers should lose commit bits before ports/ will be safe again. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17 Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ 22 Oct. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 19:46:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68752106566B for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:46:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvs-src@yandex.ru) Received: from forward9.mail.yandex.net (forward9.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0BF8FC1B for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp6.mail.yandex.net (smtp6.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.56]) by forward9.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id EF3E5CE27E9; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:46:39 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1315943200; bh=sZdMroJNrqvbYy+9f+LYiDff7H5aRM5JZJHzP6KYRiM=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=L4E+relUbjmB5lJ2NaUP76raboD2KnYkG0N8FwEuzJRzTkbWTfNJKcQiCQBjDgPMG /WvG0vs3xpvS0rqD1j8yfGorPzSBD0uxsCWQYUjS3DNeI/8crZrEogGI1SQwjIP3Hh YG4Fyg5OecSmfUz01AbgK1X47O9PlSJJ1TGQbCXQ= Received: from smtp6.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id B96D81640042; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:46:39 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1315943199; bh=sZdMroJNrqvbYy+9f+LYiDff7H5aRM5JZJHzP6KYRiM=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nKWB7/MvoaSa5aoeMx8h+tPsx40HLI26UXJFUPpsj9/5m/LUKhhyQ9NEppkjLaGiL SOUVGB+QOxtoTDkhn0rm1X+8sHG+h1cKLN3vp7+rEUbJdB7Cod4Ep0g3PWlpEGUB8K ZSbBXkJyVQQvRmHMTTs1Mf+l9AlJPmtL5Xw0J8nQ= Received: from unknown (unknown [213.138.88.133]) by smtp6.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id kchSc9ag-kdhSvYGu; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:46:39 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Message-ID: <4E6FB315.804@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:46:29 +0400 From: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110828 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F46A3.4080809@missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <4E6F46A3.4080809@missouri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" , Gabor Kovesdan , Michal Varga Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:46:42 -0000 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote on 13.09.2011 16:03: > In particular, checking which ports depend on a port just updated is a > particularly nasty thing to do. I get the impression that each committer > has his own special way of doing this. For example, I have personally > found that a simple grep won't work, because "grep xxx > /usr/ports/*/Makefile*" just creates a line too long for the shell to > handle. I use a shell construction involving "find" but I wonder how > others do the same thing. http://beta.freshports.org/*category*/*portname* Required by: for Build for Run is quite useful as for me. But it can't catch all of them. -- Regards, Ruslan Tinderboxing kills... the drives. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 19:57:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFFD106566B; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C198FC14; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE9F1.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.233.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p8DJvAtZ017234; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:57:11 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8DJv5d5065864; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:57:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8DJuxeE062191; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:57:05 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201109131957.p8DJuxeE062191@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Chris Rees From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:25:01 BST." Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:56:59 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:57:14 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Chris Rees > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:25:01 +0100 > Message-id: Chris Rees wrote: > On 13 September 2011 18:54, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi, > > Reference: > >> From: ═ ═ ═ ═ Chris Rees > >> Date: ═ ═ ═ ═ Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:44:37 +0100 > >> Message-id: ═ > > > > Chris Rees wrote: > >> On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >> > Matthias Andree wrote: > >> >> >> An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in > >> >> >> the first place). > >> >> > > >> >> > Bullshit! > >> >> > >> >> I think that suffices. ═If the discussion is getting emotional, we > >> >> should stop it. > >> > > >> > No. You should stop advocating killing ports, or leave, or be revoked. > >> > FreeBSD would be better without immature ports slaughterers. > >> > > >> > >> Julian, > >> > >> Your arguments have become excessively ad-hominem, and please don't > >> think you're upsetting anyone in the slightest with them. > >> > >> Use rational and technical arguments, or take a break. > >> > >> Chris > > > > Your proposal to remove procmail among others was ridiculous. > > Please consider resigning Chris. > > > > Not mine. > > Please consider reading mailing lists properly rather than jumping to > conclusions. > > Chris Chris Rees You are False. You posted this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-September/069860.html > Chris Rees utisoft at gmail.com > Sun Sep 4 16:56:37 UTC 2011 > > Guys, > > I've had to deprecate sysutils/cfs -- there's a confirmed issue with > failing locks [1] which has been open for two years with no fix. > > Please would someone consider stepping up to fix and maintain it? It > has two months to live. > > Thanks! > > Chris > > [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/137378 > - - > Chris Rees | FreeBSD Developer You then pressurised new Maintainer to fix quick or delete, despite several of us told you in use working fine for ages. Chris Rees, you are butchering ports/ You were give a commit bit 11th June 2011. http://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html Its time that commit bit was revoked to protect ports/ along with perhaps 3 other misguided butchers' commit bits, perhaps one of whom might have been your commit mentor. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17 Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ 22 Oct. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 20:05:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5F1106566C for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@cassiba.com) Received: from mail.megalomaniacal.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f0e:2ac::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348788FC16 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.1.1.11] (unknown [10.1.1.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.megalomaniacal.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DEE681D7A54 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:05:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4E6FB77F.3070208@cassiba.com> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:05:19 -0500 From: Sam Cassiba User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110907 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> In-Reply-To: <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sam@cassiba.com List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:05:21 -0000 On 09/13/11 14:27, Michal Varga wrote: > Sigh, okay. > > Some time earlier during the day I was still planning to address few > interesting points (especially) Stephen raised, but by this time I'm > finally getting to it and reading through the rest of the emails, I can > see that this would only be a waste of time for everyone involved. > > Reading now through the posts one after another stating how FreeBSD > ports/desktop experience was never more awesomestestest than it is now, > I just feel like participating in some kind of bizarro 1st April joke, > and the most coherent reply that comes to mind is: > > > Wat. > > And again. > > Wat. Did I just read. > > > I have no other words beyond that because I can't even seriously imagine > what those people stating how everything is perfectly fine now consider > to be a working, modern, 24/7 ready desktop workstation. > > Though if I had to pick a random case again, it probably wouldn't be too > hard to make some wildly unsubstantiated guesses: > > ## From: Matthias Andree > ## Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) > > > Still I thank everyone for polite replies which were actually a welcome > change for this kind of threads, but as there is obviously something > fundamentally different between how I and rest of you guys perceive an > actually working FreeBSD (or any other, for the matter) workstation, I'm > going to let it go, this is not the kind fight one would be able to win > in any case. > > For the next years, I'll be much better off with finishing my migration > to another system where the base OS will hardly ever be as good and > clean as FreeBSD, but the overall quality of 24/7 ready, stable, modern > desktop OS as a whole is by far too wide margin different from what I > gather is currently considered 'acceptable' here, in FreeBSD (ports) > circles. No offense meant, in any case. > > m. > > Aside from things like virtualization, my desktop experience over the past 10+ years has been rather positive. I do everything but play video games on FreeBSD, and it works for me as a usable and relatively stable workstation. It took a lot of trial and error on my part, but I found a suitable workstation setup for me. Comparing my desktop experience now to how it was when I started in early 4.x, I'd say there has been significant improvement. FreeBSD is not perfect, and some areas need more work than others, but I'd say there has been an upward trend in overall quality over the years. Just my $0.02, take it for what it's worth. -- Sam Cassiba From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 20:36:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C50106564A for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f44.google.com (mail-vw0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE72A8FC13 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws12 with SMTP id 12so1225945vws.17 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:36:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:disposition-notification-to :content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=GRLr3QnTP3A3fwsj6e1/S24LePlYON37J+/8oqend4E=; b=Tx4reytTm5IotRMuwiQPRkqyY3X5kn43IuQ03GcFbUeRYjXyEdP2KMmkJ7HTAaarjN YS98zBDR5U0ARQeoLp0wdV8N2VfVFNtUnUNVRIxHQRd01izJcsbvTko+QHBLMyA3JBds SHkuXEr8ukzu6mvkKjR4F6zpxxW0YWu87atEY= Received: by 10.220.9.209 with SMTP id m17mr253026vcm.135.1315878804732; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.6.230] ([201.21.174.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id du1sm131230vdb.11.2011.09.12.18.53.22 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:53:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:53:20 -0300 Message-ID: <1315878800.26544.17.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:44:00 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: testing PKGNG... X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:36:26 -0000 Hello, I moved all my servers (about 40) to the pkgng (new generation) package/port system, and I can say that it is amazing... it is not yet finish, and have some minor "issues", but works very well, and is lightning fast.. It is almost the same as "pacman" (from Archlinux).. you build a "repository" and install packages from that repository. when you update the repository, the other servers can do an "upgrade".. you do not have to have the ports tree in each server, and you build the ports only on the master server.... in the master server, there is a full gnome2 (with 842 dependencies) that install right on the shelf with only one command: pkg install gnome2 now I have a full functional server runing gnome, libreoffice, inkscape hplip, cups printing, gdm... in about 30 minutes from internet.... Sergio... From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 20:52:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0C91065674 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6796F8FC12 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf2 with SMTP id 2so1009280gyf.13 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:52:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3wI4PsNw+EWZ84BrHgMeXbhuPgzPr0xQodrfk/7ZwRI=; b=gP38SsL01HMm8MiIhMMhlJaE+N0ZKJ9Lo15mqzpxoQ05Of1LNY6s5WC6XsL1iAgkBg DyGeAgwOpW6vlXMc7d5Foh3Qfg0BVi5gZ5qU+V9CwXBAxPtXZZujZ4UTGx3+7+LFsFfJ AlRiiUsyxvl2/RF6p2w3pXU80li8pONZHGaRU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.21.198 with SMTP id k6mr9634120ibb.97.1315947132532; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:52:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201109131957.p8DJuxeE062191@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201109131957.p8DJuxeE062191@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:52:12 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LVWQSQJ4rt_JQxqXgd_I0XkZeOo Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: "Julian H. Stacey" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:52:14 -0000 On 13 Sep 2011 20:57, "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > > Hi, > Reference: > > From: Chris Rees > > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:25:01 +0100 > > Message-id: > > Chris Rees wrote: > > On 13 September 2011 18:54, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Reference: > > >> From: Chris Rees > > >> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:44:37 +0100 > > >> Message-id: < CADLo83-ZcVAeyznw5DtEHV1tOsBUrZLLR2HJxFjrX_QewpHysA@mail.gmail.com> > > > > > > Chris Rees wrote: > > >> On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > >> > Matthias Andree wrote: > > >> >> >> An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in > > >> >> >> the first place). > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Bullshit! > > >> >> > > >> >> I think that suffices. If the discussion is getting emotional, we > > >> >> should stop it. > > >> > > > >> > No. You should stop advocating killing ports, or leave, or be revoked. > > >> > FreeBSD would be better without immature ports slaughterers. > > >> > > > >> > > >> Julian, > > >> > > >> Your arguments have become excessively ad-hominem, and please don't > > >> think you're upsetting anyone in the slightest with them. > > >> > > >> Use rational and technical arguments, or take a break. > > >> > > >> Chris > > > > > > Your proposal to remove procmail among others was ridiculous. > > > Please consider resigning Chris. > > > > > > > Not mine. > > > > Please consider reading mailing lists properly rather than jumping to > > conclusions. > > > > Chris > > Chris Rees You are False. You posted this: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-September/069860.html > > > Chris Rees utisoft at gmail.com > > Sun Sep 4 16:56:37 UTC 2011 > > > > Guys, > > > > I've had to deprecate sysutils/cfs -- there's a confirmed issue with > > failing locks [1] which has been open for two years with no fix. > > > > Please would someone consider stepping up to fix and maintain it? It > > has two months to live. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Chris > > > > [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/137378 > > - - > > Chris Rees | FreeBSD Developer > > You then pressurised new Maintainer to fix quick or delete, > despite several of us told you in use working fine for ages. > > Chris Rees, you are butchering ports/ You were give a commit bit > 11th June 2011. http://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html > > Its time that commit bit was revoked to protect ports/ along with > perhaps 3 other misguided butchers' commit bits, perhaps one of > whom might have been your commit mentor. > You are quite hilarious. I did not suggest depreciation of procmail, so I'm unsure why you keep asserting that. Why don't you count the number of ports I've actually 'butchered'? The cvs-ports list is public and easy to search. You're asserting that I've turned up and suddenly started to destroy the tree, which is anything but true, and I find it quite pathetic. Perhaps you need to take a break-- I'm rather tired of being called to defend myself, I've plenty of better things to be doing. Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 20:56:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C93106564A for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jlaffaye.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADBB8FC15 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxg9 with SMTP id 9so1219417fxg.13 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:56:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uaAOFob9UJqVeumt/G84u/wiQBsOx9tpmLuugaNLuCw=; b=HtM7J1lMtmp/Xi8oCDT5kxdW4Uny+vfUX4kaFpNqaM4uDOMP8m3SzBdUIWUlHQoJcX e7G6rF/OccbBC1Sg//JHr4eP+rjxVMBn+ng8CkHUX+WFTE/EwUfaJxSIuWU7YrYxGF1x A9F+G5rAVwsf6uZl659V4zIuClGwUgctVFFaQ= Received: by 10.223.6.26 with SMTP id 26mr1446801fax.40.1315947377774; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chulak.jlaffaye.net (esc31-1-78-245-92-55.fbx.proxad.net. [78.245.92.55]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r3sm1379131fam.26.2011.09.13.13.56.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Julien Laffaye Message-ID: <4E6FC372.8030605@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:56:18 +0200 From: Julien Laffaye User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315878800.26544.17.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> In-Reply-To: <1315878800.26544.17.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: testing PKGNG... X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:56:19 -0000 On 09/13/2011 03:53, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Hello, > > I moved all my servers (about 40) to the pkgng (new generation) > package/port > system, and I can say that it is amazing... it is not yet finish, and > have some > minor "issues", but works very well, and is lightning fast.. > > It is almost the same as "pacman" (from Archlinux).. you build a > "repository" and install packages from that repository. when you > update the repository, the other servers can do an "upgrade".. > you do not have to have the ports tree in each server, and > you build the ports only on the master server.... > > in the master server, there is a full gnome2 (with 842 dependencies) > that install right on the shelf with only one command: pkg install > gnome2 > now I have a full functional server runing gnome, libreoffice, inkscape > hplip, cups printing, gdm... in about 30 minutes from internet.... > > > Sergio... > I am glad to see that it works well for you. But I want to emphasize that this is still experimental code! With 40 machines, I guess you have the biggest pkgng installation out there, so you will certainly find bugs quicker than others. We definitely want to know about them! Thank you for your feedback! Julien From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 21:05:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD195106564A for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Received: from wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963B18FC18 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8DL5Wsl043614; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:05:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Message-ID: <4E6FC59C.5090509@missouri.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:05:32 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Fromme References: <201109131411.p8DEBTGA081124@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <201109131411.p8DEBTGA081124@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:05:34 -0000 On 09/13/2011 09:11 AM, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > particularly nasty thing to do. I get the impression that each > > committer has his own special way of doing this. For example, I have > > personally found that a simple grep won't work, because "grep xxx > > /usr/ports/*/Makefile*" just creates a line too long for the shell to > > handle. I use a shell construction involving "find" but I wonder how > > others do the same thing. > > cd /usr/ports > echo */*/Makefile* | xargs grep xxx That's amazing. It would never have occurred to me that "echo */*/Makefile*" works when "grep xxx */*/Makefile*". Is that because "echo" is a builtin command in csh (which is what I use)? I notice "/bin/echo */*/Makefile*" doesn't work. Is this documented somewhere? From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 21:16:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EAA8106564A for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:16:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4AB8FC12 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:16:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.4/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id p8DLFjsb052082 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:15:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 168 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B54921C7D for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:16:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id 18D1E42AE; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:16:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:16:19 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110913211619.GA46319@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 4E6FC824.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4E6FC824.000/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ Subject: Re: testing PKGNG X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:16:48 -0000 Sergio wrote: >I moved all my servers (about 40) to the pkgng (new generation) >package/port >system, and I can say that it is amazing... it is not yet finish, and >have some >minor "issues", but works very well, and is lightning fast.. > >It is almost the same as "pacman" (from Archlinux).. you build a >"repository" and install packages from that repository. when you >update the repository, the other servers can do an "upgrade".. >you do not have to have the ports tree in each server, and >you build the ports only on the master server.... > >in the master server, there is a full gnome2 (with 842 dependencies) >that install right on the shelf with only one command: pkg install >gnome2 >now I have a full functional server runing gnome, libreoffice, inkscape >hplip, cups printing, gdm... in about 30 minutes from internet.... I am extremely interested by what you are saying here. Do you mean that you can find somewhere precompiled packages that you can install in 30mn or that you use packages compiled on a master server? Of course the difference is that if you have just one machine in the basement instead of a server farm, the point of view is not the same ... By the way if you mention that pkgng shares something to some penguinist system, beware it will be villified by some guardians of the orthodoxy who are quite vocal. Anyways if it is indeed fast it will make a happy difference with the present pkg-* tools. -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 21:20:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED17D106566B for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jlaffaye.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA6B8FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxg9 with SMTP id 9so1246733fxg.13 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:20:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/wIqIdtP4hXpkfqnJe6+fSaerEGjqSqahGr5dQj1G0I=; b=ToFGRQBPzVsLKs5PJAg8LQiPxGjqhVZrVoMG6laDv7amfi9Er4GxkDi1zwvYSMkhXI gsna/p9Pbmx74TIowKROY89MyvPkBlZslECRZr5PHjAXskcqLu7KL7sSprc2f0l7xrpn l07DiT3VC8lbZ40I7z4P+3GpOs5mHL2DmXyTM= Received: by 10.223.54.202 with SMTP id r10mr480662fag.114.1315948805340; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chulak.jlaffaye.net (esc31-1-78-245-92-55.fbx.proxad.net. [78.245.92.55]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a1sm1478145fab.4.2011.09.13.14.20.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Julien Laffaye Message-ID: <4E6FC905.80701@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:20:05 +0200 From: Julien Laffaye User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20110913211619.GA46319@lpthe.jussieu.fr> In-Reply-To: <20110913211619.GA46319@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: testing PKGNG X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:20:07 -0000 On 09/13/2011 23:16, Michel Talon wrote: > Sergio wrote: > >> I moved all my servers (about 40) to the pkgng (new generation) >> package/port >> system, and I can say that it is amazing... it is not yet finish, and >> have some >> minor "issues", but works very well, and is lightning fast.. >> >> It is almost the same as "pacman" (from Archlinux).. you build a >> "repository" and install packages from that repository. when you >> update the repository, the other servers can do an "upgrade".. >> you do not have to have the ports tree in each server, and >> you build the ports only on the master server.... >> >> in the master server, there is a full gnome2 (with 842 dependencies) >> that install right on the shelf with only one command: pkg install >> gnome2 >> now I have a full functional server runing gnome, libreoffice, inkscape >> hplip, cups printing, gdm... in about 30 minutes from internet.... > > I am extremely interested by what you are saying here. Do you mean that > you can find somewhere precompiled packages that you can install in 30mn > or that you use packages compiled on a master server? Of course the > difference is that if you have just one machine in the basement instead > of a server farm, the point of view is not the same ... There are no official mirrors with pkgng packages yet. So I assume he built his packages then deployed them with pkgng. > > By the way if you mention that pkgng shares something to some penguinist > system, beware it will be villified by some guardians of the orthodoxy > who are quite vocal. Anyways if it is indeed fast it will make a happy > difference with the present pkg-* tools. It is indeed inspired by the competition ;p From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 22:20:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACEC1065670 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:20:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8ECFD8FC13 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Sep 2011 22:20:14 -0000 Received: from g230103014.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO mandree.no-ip.org) [92.230.103.14] by mail.gmx.net (mp003) with SMTP; 14 Sep 2011 00:20:14 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+3f9AFFUi3Rwu4ouzrMKFeo12ePX0SJnM9D1Tuy+ 59m0Fb4SALWhOE Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B170C23CE2B for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:20:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:20:13 +0200 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Mnenhy/0.8.3 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> In-Reply-To: <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:20:17 -0000 Am 13.09.2011 21:27, schrieb Michal Varga: > Though if I had to pick a random case again, it probably wouldn't be too > hard to make some wildly unsubstantiated guesses: > > ## From: Matthias Andree > ## Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) "Wildly unsubstantiated" pretty much nails it. The thing you can see from a second look into ports/ is that FreeBSD's ports Thunderbird is up to date, unlike my Thunderbird 3.1 on Linux. Now what? Nothing proven. :) > Still I thank everyone for polite replies which were actually a welcome > change for this kind of threads, but as there is obviously something > fundamentally different between how I and rest of you guys perceive an > actually working FreeBSD (or any other, for the matter) workstation, I'm > going to let it go, this is not the kind fight one would be able to win > in any case. And our working desktops don't help you in the least in getting one too. I have gotten myself into situations where I mutilated my installation, to the point where X or some Desktop wouldn't start, and random applications crashed -- and the cause was usually taking short cuts or not noticing ports/UPDATING; more importantly, there are tools that can help avoid and/or fix that situation. For one, I'd start with ports-mgmt/portmaster to run portmaster --check-depends, and after that install */bsdadminscripts and run pkg_libchk and see what it comes up with in packages that want to be rebuilt in order to pull in up-to-date libraries. > For the next years, I'll be much better off with finishing my migration > to another system where the base OS will hardly ever be as good and > clean as FreeBSD, but the overall quality of 24/7 ready, stable, modern > desktop OS as a whole is by far too wide margin different from what I > gather is currently considered 'acceptable' here, in FreeBSD (ports) > circles. No offense meant, in any case. I think you mentioned Arch Linux, further suggestions would be Gentoo Linux (you might like emerge), and further options are Debian GNU/kFreeBSD and using a FreeBSD base system with pkgsrc (rather than ports) on top. Good luck in finding the system that really has fewer, rather than only different, quirks. :) From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 22:20:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADDD106566B for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:20:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 328B08FC15 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Sep 2011 21:53:58 -0000 Received: from g230103014.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO mandree.no-ip.org) [92.230.103.14] by mail.gmx.net (mp045) with SMTP; 13 Sep 2011 23:53:58 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+lYbw4zY2lQWN/ykEDwjIiUFsvpik/7oukLuKtYR Pg76e3EJErfk5j Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5797C23CE2B; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:53:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E6FD0F2.2000408@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:53:54 +0200 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Mnenhy/0.8.3 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Julian H. Stacey" , ports@FreeBSD.org References: <201109131957.p8DJuxeE062191@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201109131957.p8DJuxeE062191@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Stacey's was: ports-system priorities rant X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:20:41 -0000 > Its time that commit bit was revoked to protect ports/ along with > perhaps 3 other misguided butchers' commit bits, perhaps one of > whom might have been your commit mentor. Get a life. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 22:58:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61121065673 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E918FC14 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE9F1.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.233.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p8DMwQds018351; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:58:27 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8DMwKob066538; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:58:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8DMw8lB064205; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:58:14 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201109132258.p8DMw8lB064205@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Matthias Andree From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:13:47 +0200." <4E6F8F4B.3060802@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:58:08 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysutils/cfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:58:29 -0000 Matthias Andree wrote: > claim, please fix, until end 2011, in mail/procmail, in collaboration > with sunpoet@: Procmail works for me, for a friend, & others on list. It was & remains irresponsible to try to force satisfied users to fix other people's reported problems on threat of ports being otherwise removed. FreeBSD would be safer dropping irresponsible ports commit bits inc. yours. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play script. Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17 Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ 22 Oct. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 23:18:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7B7106566C for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:18:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from code@apotheon.net) Received: from oproxy5-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy5.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E47058FC12 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:17:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5632 invoked by uid 0); 13 Sep 2011 23:17:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 13 Sep 2011 23:17:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.net; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=T+9QffkF65+g7udsUse0YplTg703wKnncEUBS3FKQxU=; b=j8VJ4WXoW9/P8eGlDzFOIlKR1KG9UnIZ+h6iUJsA9ZB/T0uLhF+9FO0fSz8gbHSfXOAHdW2gp/J+FjCalztaifO9RUOtT62QyoKWAr5bClik4Pm+E74GtuFZqsTTkly5; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R3cEn-00016t-Ng for ports@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:17:58 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:58:55 -0600 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:58:55 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: ports@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20110913225855.GA38409@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: ports@FreeBSD.org References: <201109131957.p8DJuxeE062191@fire.js.berklix.net> <4E6FD0F2.2000408@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E6FD0F2.2000408@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: Stacey's was: ports-system priorities rant X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:18:00 -0000 --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:53:54PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > > Its time that commit bit was revoked to protect ports/ along with > > perhaps 3 other misguided butchers' commit bits, perhaps one of > > whom might have been your commit mentor. >=20 > Get a life. The two of you come off like mirror images of each other. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5v4C8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVTWwCgshHmsqLTD2ejh5AbJ+dNau1h TU0An15Ex+Yss3zjkyGcI2bO2tKlEf4q =1/BH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 23:52:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5495C106564A; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:52:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amdmi3@amdmi3.ru) Received: from smtp.timeweb.ru (smtp.timeweb.ru [92.53.116.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8E38FC18; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:52:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [213.148.20.85] (helo=hive.panopticon) by smtp.timeweb.ru with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R3cmb-0002nr-Tk; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 03:52:53 +0400 Received: from hades.panopticon (hades.panopticon [192.168.0.32]) by hive.panopticon (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D073B84D; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 03:52:53 +0400 (MSD) Received: by hades.panopticon (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 15745B823; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 03:52:53 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 03:52:52 +0400 From: Dmitry Marakasov To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20110913235252.GA90346@hades.panopticon> References: <201108311230.p7VCUOYO086517@repoman.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201108311230.p7VCUOYO086517@repoman.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: danfe@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/x11/nvidia-driver Makefile distinfo X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:52:56 -0000 * Alexey Dokuchaev (danfe@FreeBSD.org) wrote: > Log: > - Update NVidia drivers to their corresponding latest versions > - Apply a workaround to fix the build on recent -CURRENT after fget(9) KPI > was changed in r224778 (affects the driver since version 195.22) Just for everyone's information, I've had system freezes with 280.13, 8.2-RELEASE i386, GeForce 9800 GT. -- Dmitry Marakasov . 55B5 0596 FF1E 8D84 5F56 9510 D35A 80DD F9D2 F77D amdmi3@amdmi3.ru ..: jabber: amdmi3@jabber.ru http://www.amdmi3.ru From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 02:47:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949E2106566B for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from glenbarber.us (onyx.glenbarber.us [199.48.134.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44E848FC15 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 52546 invoked by uid 0); 13 Sep 2011 22:21:09 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO schism.local) (gjb@76.124.49.145) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Sep 2011 22:21:09 -0400 Message-ID: <4E700F94.4050902@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:21:08 -0400 From: Glen Barber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Rees References: <201109131957.p8DJuxeE062191@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:47:51 -0000 On 9/13/11 4:52 PM, Chris Rees wrote: > I'm rather tired of being called to defend myself, I see no reason why you should find it necessary. Bravo for the work you've done. > I've plenty of better things to be doing. > Agreed. Julian, amongst others this past few weeks, have successfully made it indefinitely to my bit bucket. I suggest you do the same, and take the advice of /etc/motd: Shut Up and Code!!! :-) -- Glen Barber | gjb@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD Documentation Project From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 04:24:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C461065687 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EB68FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:24:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywp17 with SMTP id 17so1299894ywp.13 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:24:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=2Dlt0dzo7nbGohCTKFMozFb8bkorO6YUM2JXKw//nnQ=; b=SiQsMGYqWX5m6AO7vUovnOFaGKAcw1e7EhIhLdqlpu3kpVgEnWTY8ewffsPIgR363t zQIXQyr0Q0tp+qHfIU8En2GaBwMOQKBtBfS4TKQRz31ASrAwQoQ9nWFefAemP0TI2M5v HBLQ5c7iEYG4cgHZHLxgKw9FOzjCFLF98UJZ4= Received: by 10.236.119.164 with SMTP id n24mr38021528yhh.115.1315972541161; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DataIX.net (adsl-99-190-81-85.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.190.81.85]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u8sm3912573yhm.7.2011.09.13.20.55.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Jason Hellenthal Received: from DataIX.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by DataIX.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8E3tadd099746 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:55:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhell@DataIX.net) Received: (from jhell@localhost) by DataIX.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p8E3tZCY099745; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:55:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhell@DataIX.net) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:55:35 -0400 From: Jason Hellenthal To: "Julian H. Stacey" Message-ID: <20110914035535.GA92696@DataIX.net> References: <201109131927.p8DJRYF9061927@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201109131927.p8DJRYF9061927@fire.js.berklix.net> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:24:48 -0000 --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is about the most rediculous thread that I have read all year yet I was not surprised at ?all? On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:27:34PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Chris Rees wrote: > > On 12 September 2011 22:18, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > Matthias Andree wrote: > > >> >> An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be por= ted in > > >> >> the first place). > > >> > > > >> > Bullshit! > > >> > > >> I think that suffices. =A0If the discussion is getting emotional, we > > >> should stop it. > > > > > > No. You should stop advocating killing ports, or leave, or be revoked. > > > FreeBSD would be better without immature ports slaughterers. > > > > >=20 > > Julian, > >=20 > > Your arguments have become excessively ad-hominem, and please don't > > think you're upsetting anyone in the slightest with them. > >=20 > > Use rational and technical arguments, or take a break. > >=20 > > Chris >=20 > Revised reply as I subsequently notice Chris Rees lack of attribution > falsely implies I wrote stuff I did not. >=20 > > >> >> the first place). > > >> > > > >> > Bullshit! > I did not write that. That was > From Erik Trulsson =20 > In reply to Matthias Andree > Fri, 9 Sep 2011 07:22:10 +0200 > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-September/070018.h= tml >=20 > Seems Chris's butcher colleague Matthias annoyed Erik too. >=20 > Further Chris's unattributed chunk >=20 > > > Bullshit! > >=09 > > I think that suffices. If the discussion is getting emotional, we > > should stop it. >=20 > Was not from or to me, but was: >=20 > From: Matthias Andree > Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 18:06:30 +0200 > To: Erik Trulsson > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-September/070075.h= tml=09 >=20 > Only Chris's final bit had me as sender or recipient, namely: >=20 > > > I think that suffices. If the discussion is getting emotional, we > > > should stop it. > > > > No. You should stop advocating killing ports,=20 >=20 > which was not to Chris but was: >=20 > From Julian H. Stacey jhs at berklix.com > Tue Sep 13 08:44:10 UTC 2011 > To Matthias Andree > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2011-September/070164.h= tml >=20 > Chris's lack of attribution checking was misleading, but not suprising, > Chris Rees it was who wanted to kick out procmail. Poor judgement. >=20 > A few ports butchers should lose commit bits before ports/ will be safe a= gain. >=20 > Cheers, > Julian > --=20 > Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix= =2Ecom > Reply below, not above; Indent with "> "; Cumulative like a play scrip= t. > Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-prin= table. > http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 17 Sept, http://berklix.org/sfd/ 22 O= ct. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://bit.ly/0x89D8547E iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOcCW2AAoJEJBXh4mJ2FR+LYAH/0ASadbTo1fGheVZVM+5MR1F T8IxbZWfqalROEuiWFb7x8e89xPc6nJzJuRZuW9vjzA2CwImJbKh3oyRzVNowte8 yT85ZxCwNA2j/XNSZocvP335YLXkwW/ACk3YSSZ9PArMH4bygAKU82dO+DSTcddv kSILWKJxkDLZFYoMYVYVHky2Rus2sn2I2KHHqEJHiDuFIXPXqN8A0oGQifcvvkUM i2+WwnFrCSS07IZQVgEKLD7PJBoZFXXkkamKBgdToPmtwH5qiEsY/thNZsfRQ/1R Fb7DcS8CAD4tQWXO/6qrcDOhQ6Ws1l+vsRwnjh7ZOg8oRQcOIw2ky82iby9cttk= =N+Ri -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 07:18:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339B3106564A for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itetcu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (worf.ds9.tecnik93.com [81.196.207.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA04D8FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IT (unknown [81.181.146.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by worf.ds9.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA44322C5477 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:00:23 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:00:24 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: ports@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110914100024.9a28e2933f2ab3aee9fc77ca@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0beta3 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-pc-mingw32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Thank YOU [1] ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:18:07 -0000 ... for helping me set my priorities strait. [2] It used to be fun to be here. I understand that, in general, people want to help. I understand that there can be a lot of useful input from people that actually do nothing or next to nothing in terms of coding, documenting and so on. I understand that perfectly reasonable and intelligent people might differ about various issues. It used to be good being here. What I CAN NOT understand is when people start insulting other people from the community. This is the point where my understanding and sympathy stops. PLEASE take a break. Go back on vacation. Whatever it takes to cool down. Come back in two weeks and think it over. Be polite. At very least be polite. Curb your sarcasm. No one is after *you*. No one wants to sink the FreeBSD ship. The opposite. It used to be fun to be here. It used to be good. NOT ANYMORE. I don't see what you'll gain when the 90% of top very active committers [3] (think gnome, think kde, thing office, think infrastructure, think $little_ports that 3 people use) dread to open freebsd-ports mail folder; when after reading a couple of messages they'd rather go drink something, watch TV, or whatever, instead of doing something for FreeBSD. You disagree with this or that or the other one? Put a team together or be the lone warrior and start DOING something. Be clear, succinct and, again, POLITE when you write about your new project. You can convince the others? You know how to do it better? You don't know how do to it better, but you think you can motive and manage people that do know? You can take all our work, for FREE, under the most permissive license out there. Fork. Do it better; for others; for you; for us; for me. The rest of you, please > ssh freefall.freebsd.org "tail -2 /etc/motd" and keep up the good work. [1] YOU (plural). I shouldn't need to tell you who you are. I won't. You demotivated me more that enough. [3] Just in case you were wondering, it's a real number, not something I came up with. It used to be fun to be here. It used to be good. It USED to be. [2] No, I'm not going away. I put to much work and time in FreeBSD. But, for the foreseeable future, if you need to contact me about my ports, or other work, or anything else, mail me directly; I won't be reading this list. -- IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" FreeBSD committer -> itetcu@FreeBSD.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 07:34:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FA3106566C for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:34:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 172-17-198-245.globalsuite.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C252D176FF7 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:34:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4E7058EA.5070904@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:34:02 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110912 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Ports Mailing List X-Enigmail-Version: undefined OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Detecting dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:34:04 -0000 Howdy, A couple of recent threads have mentioned clever ways to search for dependencies. One problem ... there aren't any. :) The *only* safe way to make sure you have found all possible references to a dependency is to grep the entire ports tree (grep -r category/portname /usr/ports/*). There are just too many clever things that people do in various files that aren't given conventional names that you will likely miss some references if you don't. Particularly useless (by itself) is using the INDEX to find dependencies because it will miss any optional dependencies that are not enabled by default. It is usually useful to cross-check the outcome of your grep command to make sure that you have captured at least the known on-by-default ones. hth, Doug -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/ From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 07:52:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B548106564A for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:52:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF98D8FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p8E7qOQA069044 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:52:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p8E7qO9b069043; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA01625; Wed, 14 Sep 11 00:44:26 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:44:08 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: stephen@missouri.edu Message-Id: <4e70bdb8.AJO467lneB8GUlld%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <201109131411.p8DEBTGA081124@lurza.secnetix.de> <4E6FC59C.5090509@missouri.edu> In-Reply-To: <4E6FC59C.5090509@missouri.edu> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: olli@lurza.secnetix.de, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:52:28 -0000 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > It would never have occurred to me that "echo */*/Makefile*" > works when "grep xxx */*/Makefile*". Is that because "echo" > is a builtin command in csh (which is what I use)? I don't know, but I can think of no better explanation. > I notice "/bin/echo */*/Makefile*" doesn't work. The same (builtin echo works, /bin/echo not) happens in /bin/sh, and in bash. > Is this documented somewhere? Not that I know of. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 07:55:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47351065670 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EB88FC15; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8E7tsLP055340; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:55:54 GMT (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bapt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p8E7ts3K055338; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:55:54 GMT (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: bapt set sender to bapt@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:55:50 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi Message-ID: <20110914075550.GA22145@azathoth.lan> References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315878800.26544.17.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1315878800.26544.17.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: testing PKGNG... X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:55:55 -0000 --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:53:20PM -0300, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I moved all my servers (about 40) to the pkgng (new generation) > package/port=20 > system, and I can say that it is amazing... it is not yet finish, and > have some > minor "issues", but works very well, and is lightning fast.. =20 >=20 > It is almost the same as "pacman" (from Archlinux).. you build a=20 > "repository" and install packages from that repository. when you > update the repository, the other servers can do an "upgrade"..=20 > you do not have to have the ports tree in each server, and > you build the ports only on the master server.... >=20 > in the master server, there is a full gnome2 (with 842 dependencies) > that install right on the shelf with only one command: pkg install > gnome2 > now I have a full functional server runing gnome, libreoffice, inkscape > hplip, cups printing, gdm... in about 30 minutes from internet.... >=20 >=20 > Sergio... >=20 Wahou, Thanks for that great feedback :) Finally something interesting on that list... Nice to hear and really happy that pkgng while still be highly experimental works so good on your case. Now that you have become our larger tester, feedback are really welcome:=20 - bug reports, - features resquest, - documentation :D I may recommand you to well test your upgrades before deploying them. Upgra= de process has to be refactor because it works but have some rough edges. I use exclusively pkgng on my boxes (only 4 sorry :)) for weeks now without major problem that can't be fixed. We are also interested in the procedures, I mean the way you build the pack= ages and the way you deploy them, I may have some things to point you to that can help you managing your servers using pkgng :) http://wiki.FreeBSD.org/pkgng https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng irc://#pkgng@freenode regards, Bapt --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5wXgYACgkQ8kTtMUmk6Ew1rwCghlr04irJGeq3/voxVVF85caH 3IQAoL8lW4bBJ6GGqYQPac/O5vvwP4/m =PZM7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 08:29:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DF81065672 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:29:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmt@burggraben.net) Received: from smtp.burggraben.net (ns.exwg.net [88.198.69.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1FA8FC16 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.burggraben.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C994B6003D2; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:29:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:29:03 +0200 From: Christoph Moench-Tegeder To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110914082902.GA32250@ns.burggraben.net> References: <201109131411.p8DEBTGA081124@lurza.secnetix.de> <4E6FC59C.5090509@missouri.edu> <4e70bdb8.AJO467lneB8GUlld%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4e70bdb8.AJO467lneB8GUlld%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-PGP-Key: RSA/2048 0xB816EBBD X-PGP-Fingerprint: 89 2E 6D 05 95 B8 D7 1F 7C 1D C3 1E 95 A0 9B 5D X-GPG: supported User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:29:05 -0000 ## perryh@pluto.rain.com (perryh@pluto.rain.com): > > I notice "/bin/echo */*/Makefile*" doesn't work. > > The same (builtin echo works, /bin/echo not) happens in /bin/sh, > and in bash. > > > Is this documented somewhere? > > Not that I know of. There is a limit to the length of arguments to the exec()-functions (measured in bytes). It's even in POSIX.1: ARG_MAX, you can query it with "getconf ARG_MAX". When using shell builtins (like echo, instead of the "external" /bin/echo), no exec() happens and the limit does not apply. If I got my history right, this was even in 4.4BSD. Regards, Christoph -- Spare Space. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 08:43:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBA31065674 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4448FC12; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:43:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8E8hnsf005372; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:43:49 GMT (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bapt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p8E8hnYJ005371; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:43:49 GMT (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: bapt set sender to bapt@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:43:45 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Michel Talon Message-ID: <20110914084345.GB22145@azathoth.lan> References: <20110913211619.GA46319@lpthe.jussieu.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="A6N2fC+uXW/VQSAv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110913211619.GA46319@lpthe.jussieu.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: testing PKGNG X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:43:49 -0000 --A6N2fC+uXW/VQSAv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:16:19PM +0200, Michel Talon wrote: > Sergio wrote: >=20 > >I moved all my servers (about 40) to the pkgng (new generation) > >package/port=20 > >system, and I can say that it is amazing... it is not yet finish, and > >have some > >minor "issues", but works very well, and is lightning fast.. =20 > > > >It is almost the same as "pacman" (from Archlinux).. you build a=20 > >"repository" and install packages from that repository. when you > >update the repository, the other servers can do an "upgrade"..=20 > >you do not have to have the ports tree in each server, and > >you build the ports only on the master server.... > > > >in the master server, there is a full gnome2 (with 842 dependencies) > >that install right on the shelf with only one command: pkg install > >gnome2 > >now I have a full functional server runing gnome, libreoffice, inkscape > >hplip, cups printing, gdm... in about 30 minutes from internet.... >=20 > I am extremely interested by what you are saying here. Do you mean that > you can find somewhere precompiled packages that you can install in 30mn > or that you use packages compiled on a master server? Of course the > difference is that if you have just one machine in the basement instead > of a server farm, the point of view is not the same ... >=20 > By the way if you mention that pkgng shares something to some penguinist > system, beware it will be villified by some guardians of the orthodoxy > who are quite vocal. Anyways if it is indeed fast it will make a happy > difference with the present pkg-* tools.=20 >=20 >=20 no pkgng do ont share something penguinist at all :) pkgng is just the result of long studies and reflexion about packaging (stu= dying what is done elsewhere: apt/dpkg, yum/rpm, pacman, aix, solaris, netbsd, op= enbsd and how to have something that try to take the good ideas from there, try n= ot to take the *over engineered* complicated part. And most important try to do i= t the FreeBSD way: which means it should work with the ports tree as-is (and help improve it in the future), so we are safe no real penguinism in pkgng :) Bapt --A6N2fC+uXW/VQSAv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5waUEACgkQ8kTtMUmk6EwuBwCdGoaTC3fIZo0iV/Avr0LUP5Oj hisAnRIoZr6XWFFpkqui0LzLzoTyRAtS =XI/6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --A6N2fC+uXW/VQSAv-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 10:37:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BF81065677 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1008FC1B for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:37:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8EAbMSj016197 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:37:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8EAbMSj016197 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1315996642; bh=6d3jZPpK/ILan2S3J971RJGVdjJlFG4HAJM8CKpZ/S0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Cc: Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version: References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E7083D7.90308@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Wed ,=2014=20Sep=202011=2011:37:11=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20 |User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Mac intosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/201 10902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20freebsd-ports= 20|Subject:=20CFT:=20rt-4.0.2=20port|X- Enigmail-Version:=201.3.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=2 0multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"ap plication/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig2D F8438E301C30730966472F"; b=pqkcjI41/FvViuKv9RZKRuyYDXZrixpgK5TmYjx/4Ic4gxBJl1K9azvoTznDV+9vZ Tbl/QxPLyXcsWVIfxGiYtBHhdOzOVPnf1uJkUWqlYFWF6WY3QnigkEtEsRwvs9KqJm CwbWVDDltsT62p9kmLwdhn7yazhDTOaNRvqsaHg4= Message-ID: <4E7083D7.90308@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:37:11 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2DF8438E301C30730966472F" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SINGLE_HEADER_1K autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: CFT: rt-4.0.2 port X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:37:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2DF8438E301C30730966472F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, In the spirit of doing stuff rather than arguing about it, I've put together a port of rt-4.0.2. That's Request Tracker, the popular ticketing system from BestPractical.com. rt-3.6.x and rt-3.8.x are already available in ports, but there's too much good stuff in the new version to forego porting that too. This is a port with (not to put too fine a point on it) a pretty convoluted dependency tree, and a lot of alternate choices for how to install it. So, before I send-pr, I'd like to get it some more sanity checking by a wider audience. This port has dependencies on three perl modules not already ported, so I've created new ports for those as well. You can download .shar archives of all four from: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/articles/rt40.html Any feedback gratefully received. Cheers, Matthew PS. What's the preference nowadays -- should simple perl module ports be assigned to perl@FreeBSD.org by default? --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig2DF8438E301C30730966472F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5wg+EACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz5XACdGEarWQKhaX7dBNPlL07cgpcr AdwAn1QBqH5/Y15RgkDP2JUoYsBhP2+5 =jL1S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2DF8438E301C30730966472F-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 10:53:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75781065675 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:53:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593C68FC17 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8EArjNp022991 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:53:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8EArjNp022991 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1315997625; bh=rXhaYFG0nwo7dWS/ZUH3JpKvzQN0ltUpI92K2GzLyzc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E7087B9.7050502@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2014=20Sep=202011=2011:53:45=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/2 0110902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20freebsd-port s@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20CFT:=20rt-4.0.2=20port|References:= 20<4E7083D7.90308@infracaninophile.co.uk>|In-Reply-To:=20<4E7083D7 .90308@infracaninophile.co.uk>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.1|OpenPGP :=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dp gp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A =20boundary=3D"------------enig9AF3F9A18E9554034D4923B3"; b=WOSEBlkNvfIjJZJthgvgypQ+eiM4pMKvhmVC/GXW3ucFLIjcE751xrHp6XIqd5MD/ EC0zpCtILEbiEUEqOL+exBcatRwRvqf46DcdbowcIXLhB03T7LeR0pwLlypRTn2S/N EbtyFptpioS1zaNCOqeRZlIiyqgR+lEmvm/b6VEk= Message-ID: <4E7087B9.7050502@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:53:45 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <4E7083D7.90308@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E7083D7.90308@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9AF3F9A18E9554034D4923B3" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: CFT: rt-4.0.2 port X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:53:53 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9AF3F9A18E9554034D4923B3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/09/2011 11:37, Matthew Seaman wrote: > This port has dependencies on three perl modules not already ported, so= > I've created new ports for those as well. You can download .shar > archives of all four from: >=20 > http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/articles/rt40.html Ah. Apparently the three additional perl modules were added to the ports on 1st September. I'll update the rt40 shar shortly. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig9AF3F9A18E9554034D4923B3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5wh7kACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwOYgCfRuTx+akjyGY5l7hCgLHMIbuw mM4AoIpoOeOQaLcv4mkzMdOr1d+zgiNj =wrz2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9AF3F9A18E9554034D4923B3-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 11:01:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F03106566C for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ale@FreeBSD.org) Received: from andxor.it (relay.andxor.it [195.223.2.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 082BD8FC14 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11881 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2011 11:01:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO alex.andxor.it) (192.168.2.30) by andxor.it with SMTP; 14 Sep 2011 11:01:50 -0000 Message-ID: <4E70899E.8030307@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:01:50 +0200 From: Alex Dupre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110913 Firefox/6.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.3.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dmitry Marakasov References: <201108311230.p7VCUOYO086517@repoman.freebsd.org> <20110913235252.GA90346@hades.panopticon> In-Reply-To: <20110913235252.GA90346@hades.panopticon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: danfe@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/x11/nvidia-driver Makefile distinfo X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:01:53 -0000 Dmitry Marakasov ha scritto: > * Alexey Dokuchaev (danfe@FreeBSD.org) wrote: > >> Log: >> - Update NVidia drivers to their corresponding latest versions >> - Apply a workaround to fix the build on recent -CURRENT after fget(9) KPI >> was changed in r224778 (affects the driver since version 195.22) > > Just for everyone's information, I've had system freezes with 280.13, > 8.2-RELEASE i386, GeForce 9800 GT. I can confirm the freeze with 8.2 amd64 and a GeForce GTS 450. I had to downgrade to 270.41.19. -- Alex Dupre From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 11:11:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9251E1065672 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:11:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A1C8FC19 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8EBBX8v025302; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:11:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p8EBBXs5025300; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:11:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <201109141111.p8EBBXs5025300@lurza.secnetix.de> To: stephen@missouri.edu (Stephen Montgomery-Smith) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:11:33 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <4E6FC59C.5090509@missouri.edu> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.5 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:11:49 +0200 (CEST) Cc: "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:11:51 -0000 Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > On 09/13/2011 09:11 AM, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > > particularly nasty thing to do. I get the impression that each > > > committer has his own special way of doing this. For example, I have > > > personally found that a simple grep won't work, because "grep xxx > > > /usr/ports/*/Makefile*" just creates a line too long for the shell to > > > handle. I use a shell construction involving "find" but I wonder how > > > others do the same thing. > > > > cd /usr/ports > > echo */*/Makefile* | xargs grep xxx > > That's amazing. > > It would never have occurred to me that "echo */*/Makefile*" works when > "grep xxx */*/Makefile*". Is that because "echo" is a builtin command > in csh (which is what I use)? I notice "/bin/echo */*/Makefile*" > doesn't work. Yes, exactly. When the shell executes an external command, it uses the execve(2) syscall, which has a limit for the size of the argument list. This is why xargs(1) exists. In the past century this limit was 64 KB, then it was raised to 256 KB when people started measuring RAM in GB. There's a read-only sysctl for that value: $ sysctl kern.argmax kern.argmax: 262144 Built-in commands are not affected by the limit because they run inside the shell process itself, so the execve(2) syscall is not involved. echo(1) is a built-in command in all common shells, so "echo ... | xargs" always works. However, if you type /bin/echo, you force the shell to execute the external command, so the limit applies again. You can also write "for i in */*/Makefile*; do ..." or similar (in /bin/sh) without worrying for limits, for the same reason. > Is this documented somewhere? Good question. It should be mentioned in the shells' man- pages, e.g. csh(1) mentions it in the "LIMITATIONS" section (among other strange limitations specific to csh). Also, the xargs(1) manpage mentions ARG_MAX, and the execve(2) manpage explains that the syscall will fail (errno E2BIG) if "the number of bytes in the new process' argument list is larger than the system-imposed limit". I'm pretty sure that _every_ book on shell scripting will explain the argument list limit, and how to circumvent it. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. 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[76.182.105.57]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q1sm2566530vdj.18.2011.09.14.04.38.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seibercom.net (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3RzLTy1ptrz2CG54 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:38:13 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110914073813.7f586bd1@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <4E70899E.8030307@FreeBSD.org> References: <201108311230.p7VCUOYO086517@repoman.freebsd.org> <20110913235252.GA90346@hades.panopticon> <4E70899E.8030307@FreeBSD.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/x11/nvidia-driver Makefile distinfo X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:38:17 -0000 On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:01:50 +0200 Alex Dupre articulated: > Dmitry Marakasov ha scritto: > > * Alexey Dokuchaev (danfe@FreeBSD.org) wrote: > > > >> Log: > >> - Update NVidia drivers to their corresponding latest versions > >> - Apply a workaround to fix the build on recent -CURRENT after > >> fget(9) KPI was changed in r224778 (affects the driver since > >> version 195.22) > > > > Just for everyone's information, I've had system freezes with > > 280.13, 8.2-RELEASE i386, GeForce 9800 GT. > > I can confirm the freeze with 8.2 amd64 and a GeForce GTS 450. I had > to downgrade to 270.41.19. I just checked on one of my machines, and it is working correctly. dmesg | grep -i geforce nvidia0: on vgapci0 This is a FreeBSD-8.2 amd64 machine and the card is not exactly "start of the art" either. -- Jerry Б°▄ jerry+ports@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Life sucks, but death doesn't put out at all. Thomas J. Kopp From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 11:54:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302D4106566B for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varga.michal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B008A8FC0C for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so1787700bkb.13 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:54:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:organization :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+P3FsX2umMNBcsokKP1rQiydnq5h3AGnOCDa7Tfqo7U=; b=Ik/DckTIsdPJphYHUKEqc/9YKBxh5KxRwPfdcRcu+Sz5estDa2dtkHYDcbXeUgD6Hk LNN0+CEHSrgtUEYRcu7IQbw+Iq1lheqSJsLIkHsxYCfW6stImRwJN2k2YslvlDvqvFE8 oKF6kzZtO82KRm3qnya5Cxorer0iPOZyw4JNs= Received: by 10.204.144.137 with SMTP id z9mr960959bku.245.1316001246568; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.101.2] (254.166.broadband10.iol.cz [90.177.166.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t18sm3635542bkb.9.2011.09.14.04.54.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:54:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Michal Varga To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20110914073813.7f586bd1@seibercom.net> References: <201108311230.p7VCUOYO086517@repoman.freebsd.org> <20110913235252.GA90346@hades.panopticon> <4E70899E.8030307@FreeBSD.org> <20110914073813.7f586bd1@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Stonehenge Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:54:02 +0200 Message-ID: <1316001242.1747.266.camel@xenon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/x11/nvidia-driver Makefile distinfo X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:54:08 -0000 On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 07:38 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:01:50 +0200 > Alex Dupre articulated: > > > Dmitry Marakasov ha scritto: > > > * Alexey Dokuchaev (danfe@FreeBSD.org) wrote: > > > > > >> Log: > > >> - Update NVidia drivers to their corresponding latest versions > > >> - Apply a workaround to fix the build on recent -CURRENT after > > >> fget(9) KPI was changed in r224778 (affects the driver since > > >> version 195.22) > > > > > > Just for everyone's information, I've had system freezes with > > > 280.13, 8.2-RELEASE i386, GeForce 9800 GT. > > > > I can confirm the freeze with 8.2 amd64 and a GeForce GTS 450. I had > > to downgrade to 270.41.19. > > I just checked on one of my machines, and it is working correctly. > > dmesg | grep -i geforce > nvidia0: on vgapci0 > > This is a FreeBSD-8.2 amd64 machine and the card is not exactly "start > of the art" either. > I'm using 280.13 since the hour it came out (atm on 8.2-STABLE i386) for 2D and 3D graphics work, VDPAU video acceleration, 3D gaming, desktop effects, for about 20 hours a day on average. I have yet to see a single freeze or any other issue. m. -- Michal Varga, Stonehenge (Gmail account) From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 12:09:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E098106566B for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:09:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sergey.dyatko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20ED58FC08 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxg9 with SMTP id 9so1978237fxg.13 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 05:09:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=p8LFzWXcpqNZv0cLpFiBdZLaOW2/C1xB5CKKs8xX9pQ=; b=uKrNOPLQAXtsIhAnSGakG4o5QRDzrQtm3OUBFKPypyuapwABo/nkanXwQuqSLvDbG7 FHBuKaCWSKUTVuDjC5A20VvTKauKvKUVO6HSaNjLH5tLuO8bPEJ8yepYlQeM7uCLqtn8 7rMJZYNLR/yyVOez2ck9szsHXlxHzXfAOS6+Q= Received: by 10.223.55.218 with SMTP id v26mr2018512fag.82.1316000622185; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laptop (m-s.agava.net. [195.222.84.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c5sm3259079fai.2.2011.09.14.04.43.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:44:31 +0300 From: "Sergey V. Dyatko" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110914144431.7336bb18@laptop> In-Reply-To: <20110914073813.7f586bd1@seibercom.net> References: <201108311230.p7VCUOYO086517@repoman.freebsd.org> <20110913235252.GA90346@hades.panopticon> <4E70899E.8030307@FreeBSD.org> <20110914073813.7f586bd1@seibercom.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/x11/nvidia-driver Makefile distinfo X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:09:04 -0000 On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:38:13 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:01:50 +0200 > Alex Dupre articulated: > > > Dmitry Marakasov ha scritto: > > > * Alexey Dokuchaev (danfe@FreeBSD.org) wrote: > > > > > >> Log: > > >> - Update NVidia drivers to their corresponding latest versions > > >> - Apply a workaround to fix the build on recent -CURRENT after > > >> fget(9) KPI was changed in r224778 (affects the driver since > > >> version 195.22) > > > > > > Just for everyone's information, I've had system freezes with > > > 280.13, 8.2-RELEASE i386, GeForce 9800 GT. > > > > I can confirm the freeze with 8.2 amd64 and a GeForce GTS 450. I had > > to downgrade to 270.41.19. > > I just checked on one of my machines, and it is working correctly. > > dmesg | grep -i geforce > nvidia0: on vgapci0 > > This is a FreeBSD-8.2 amd64 machine and the card is not exactly "start > of the art" either. > Hi, GeForce G105M, nvidia-driver-280.13, head amd64 (r225099) works fine for me -- wbr, tiger From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 12:39:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29890106564A for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fidaj@ukr.net) Received: from fsm2.ukr.net (fsm2.ukr.net [195.214.192.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5EEC8FC0C for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:39:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ukr.net; s=fsm; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=br/8Uqso0NQRFPTwPrx3c/QFS4O2pNhNvJVeYno2RTU=; b=uauAapvWFqnzLxRfKizExt6Oix6rKhHJyBfes0+aDzlCMgmSJL4u5+d1XAk3i8CwPgXA07tEHmQ31rodc0QllABbsUssqA/gloLbCMxjc9npwdfVquwIsp3qAR/WCq/sNsTSzO+raT0gMmiGFlhV/FlJwIcghsup1irs9+LXEA8=; Received: from [178.137.138.222] (helo=nonamehost.) by fsm2.ukr.net with esmtps ID 1R3okj-000MWN-OI ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:39:45 +0300 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:39:44 +0300 From: Ivan Klymenko To: Michal Varga Message-ID: <20110914153944.79fb9470@nonamehost.> In-Reply-To: <1316001242.1747.266.camel@xenon> References: <201108311230.p7VCUOYO086517@repoman.freebsd.org> <20110913235252.GA90346@hades.panopticon> <4E70899E.8030307@FreeBSD.org> <20110914073813.7f586bd1@seibercom.net> <1316001242.1747.266.camel@xenon> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/x11/nvidia-driver Makefile distinfo X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:39:48 -0000 =D0=92 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:54:02 +0200 Michal Varga =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > I'm using 280.13 since the hour it came out (atm on > 8.2-STABLE i386) for 2D and 3D graphics work, VDPAU video > acceleration, 3D gaming, desktop effects, for about 20 hours a day on > average. >=20 > I have yet to see a single freeze or any other issue. I'm using 280.13 FreeBSD 9.0-BETA2 #0 r225506M amd64. With patch: --- ./src/nvidia_subr.c.orig 2011-04-14 07:09:57.000000000 +0300 +++ ./src/nvidia_subr.c 2011-04-14 07:11:11.000000000 +0300 @@ -252,8 +252,8 @@ sc->BAR_recs[i] =3D res; } - if ((rm_read_registry_dword(sp, NULL, "NVreg", - "EnableMSI", &enable_msi) =3D=3D RM_OK) && (enable_msi !=3D 0)= ) { + if ((resource_int_value(device_get_name(dev), device_get_unit(dev), + "msi", &enable_msi) =3D=3D 0) && (enable_msi !=3D 0)) { count =3D pci_msi_count(dev); if ((count =3D=3D 1) && (pci_alloc_msi(dev, &count) =3D=3D 0)) sc->irq_rid =3D 1; I use compiz. Freezing system occurs only when playing flash with option in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg: OverrideGPUValidation=3Dtrue EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=3D1 FullScreenDisable=3Dfalse AutoUpdateDisable=3Dtrue The mouse pointer may move while and and after a while the system continues to work on, but the command dmesg there are reports : Sep 13 18:15:33 nonamehost kernel: NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 8, Channel 00000004 Sep 13 18:15:45 nonamehost kernel: NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 8, Channel 00000003 Sep 13 18:15:58 nonamehost kernel: NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 8, Channel 00000001 Sep 13 18:16:12 nonamehost kernel: NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 8, Channel 0000007e Sep 13 18:17:01 nonamehost kernel: NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 8, Channel 0000007e I sent an error message on freebsd-gfx-bugs at nvidia dot com created a script nvidia-bug-report.sh - in the hope that it will fix ... :D From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 12:51:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6B6106564A for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fidaj@ukr.net) Received: from fsm2.ukr.net (fsm2.ukr.net [195.214.192.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC24C8FC16 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:51:17 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ukr.net; s=fsm; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=fd8idIr1q3ldnDRpmhJ+eK0rH/TWRfIklyL9ZUjL+do=; b=o/Yr44DsUn/wgZC6l0TICELUmRW5Z203njI4tu7Lm8j+nbYfyKpEy8LwFtbyciCtd6qGj3G+lIfkI5anMmv2nDTnjVKKiAtOhZu/eD9tQSYn+lN4tWWiLpVVCL7yBTjc068bvtA6x1d85YOvocH4yHTY4P749yIh5ctsXTc4mv8=; Received: from [178.137.138.222] (helo=nonamehost.) by fsm2.ukr.net with esmtps ID 1R3ovs-000PVX-D6 ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:51:16 +0300 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:51:15 +0300 From: Ivan Klymenko To: Michal Varga Message-ID: <20110914155115.7b23b8c5@nonamehost.> In-Reply-To: <1316001242.1747.266.camel@xenon> References: <201108311230.p7VCUOYO086517@repoman.freebsd.org> <20110913235252.GA90346@hades.panopticon> <4E70899E.8030307@FreeBSD.org> <20110914073813.7f586bd1@seibercom.net> <1316001242.1747.266.camel@xenon> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEWpqak/Pz/i4uIfHx8GBwZwcHAQEBA6o92AAAACHElEQVQ4jWWUTY7bMAyF6QzUPSEoa8PFHEBgqwuM4bVVg7MvZOj+R+ijpMTpjIwgkT7z75EKrdfattpXERG6zqvUOtAr2LCRYfEKcB4l/Q+2cc6XjQH7hv+2YZYreIk5nevZEPvuzUzptizHLzgDMnC5Wpbl7ewJlOEqlQF+DlCjgVLki0WV6FMDMsBxjlJiQulIznwZ+DxHiQyDyIg0wN3Oo6o6ZQ5s5AIfar+W2Wlmz+kCcb8tg6j3voMEwNrBQk69dDBDqw/urpqJH+m+Q6u/4QnoAeYpnUXC/s1iup9rhCd6xMgAqdDyAyFegbKkVAHeLCcOulPLawaoUIDos4M88iLNrVkU7uu5ccTDO6naJzWLum51C6Yb7y4HKKbdArLWir0PBiS8glJRBZHeyHl7J9lENpAC6qT9NlNG4u5hsVYDyJP6mlJJtY3oVju4WSUzHal1sDU17NASoBWSk40J2eBLBJhYrVmzC5gVALGpNIAiQgN6eGstOp9Oa6zFbbLTISYi28BGZDRUJKWeroECkCEkzXjUtbmmaKMfAx2RfbT69/cO+tgHcmx6AfyZOmj3NDIah0F0GB66d4CrdIoplNFFGHSpSheRxbo0W4S8azNItEoMWbw3uXAeJgCrmX5joz7CGXqSg6PcryEhnFr/C1C2ntPxBOYbdwY+8dO3+wZJyFlbMX9s8zNnvp/tLwAv03NB4j3HVpn8Awwm+GrlP6MVAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/x11/nvidia-driver Makefile distinfo X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:51:18 -0000 =D0=92 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:54:02 +0200 Michal Varga =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 07:38 -0400, Jerry wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:01:50 +0200 > > Alex Dupre articulated: > >=20 > > > Dmitry Marakasov ha scritto: > > > > * Alexey Dokuchaev (danfe@FreeBSD.org) wrote: > > > >=20 > > > >> Log: > > > >> - Update NVidia drivers to their corresponding latest > > > >> versions > > > >> - Apply a workaround to fix the build on recent -CURRENT > > > >> after fget(9) KPI was changed in r224778 (affects the driver > > > >> since version 195.22) > > > >=20 > > > > Just for everyone's information, I've had system freezes with > > > > 280.13, 8.2-RELEASE i386, GeForce 9800 GT. > > >=20 > > > I can confirm the freeze with 8.2 amd64 and a GeForce GTS 450. I > > > had to downgrade to 270.41.19. > >=20 > > I just checked on one of my machines, and it is working correctly. > >=20 > > dmesg | grep -i geforce > > nvidia0: on vgapci0 > >=20 > > This is a FreeBSD-8.2 amd64 machine and the card is not exactly > > "start of the art" either. > >=20 >=20 > I'm using 280.13 since the hour it came out (atm on > 8.2-STABLE i386) for 2D and 3D graphics work, VDPAU video > acceleration, 3D gaming, desktop effects, for about 20 hours a day on > average. >=20 > I have yet to see a single freeze or any other issue. >=20 > m. >=20 >=20 Forgot to add 'G86 [GeForce 8400M GS]' From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 13:39:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC052106564A for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:39:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alan@p-o.co.uk) Received: from ligeti.p-o.co.uk (ligeti.p-o.co.uk [80.254.233.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E188FC15 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:39:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alanhicks.plus.com ([80.229.143.200] helo=schnittke.p-o.co.uk) by p-o.co.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1R3pIr-000PlB-WE for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:15:07 +0100 Message-ID: <4E70A8D0.5020006@p-o.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:14:56 +0100 From: Alan Hicks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110907 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) Subject: dbmail 3.0-rc3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:39:03 -0000 The dbmail version 3 final release candidate is available for testing and pre upgrade planning. As this is a release candidate it is not meant for production use. As the current maintainer appears to have gone away I've made a port available at http://p-o.co.uk/dbmail-devel.tar.bz2 for wider FreeBSD testing. There are a number of significant changes including Dependencies, Config, Schema and Server changes. See UPGRADING for details. Any issues with the FreeBSD port please contact me, all other issues please raise an issue with the support tracker at dbmail.org. Alan From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 13:34:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7335C106566B for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com (mail-gx0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB7F8FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:34:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk19 with SMTP id 19so2221066gxk.17 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 06:34:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:disposition-notification-to :content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=YhPYxPxdOviBnK3JqGUYvgnq+AmJy/zRgie6XuSy1KE=; b=jz47m9+mfQD69aAqYrzJNIxmDPkGvTESoFN6rFfJrkNRXsO0/dp0AfjyiCCEkFIQxy HD0nkHr/d5Lv0q9+A1Sm7JylBgMoRxcLdWNQtvwRWy9V4K8ikYjn+2RX6G8Omi26i5Jv QAMcLDiO6djVMpaizOtPZpgJRP+OYQYyI4TUA= Received: by 10.52.67.43 with SMTP id k11mr21850vdt.257.1316007298386; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 06:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.6.230] ([201.21.174.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b18sm2778668vdt.1.2011.09.14.06.34.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Sep 2011 06:34:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20110914084345.GB22145@azathoth.lan> References: <20110913211619.GA46319@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <20110914084345.GB22145@azathoth.lan> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:34:52 -0300 Message-ID: <1316007292.44594.9.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:54:46 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: testing PKGNG X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:34:59 -0000 Em Qua, 2011-09-14 ц═s 10:43 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin escreveu: > > no pkgng do ont share something penguinist at all :) > > pkgng is just the result of long studies and reflexion about packaging > (studying > what is done elsewhere: apt/dpkg, yum/rpm, pacman, aix, solaris, > netbsd, openbsd > and how to have something that try to take the good ideas from there, > try not to > take the *over engineered* complicated part. And most important try to > do it the > FreeBSD way: which means it should work with the ports tree as-is (and > help > improve it in the future), so we are safe no real penguinism in > pkgng :) I think pkgng will on on his way to the freebsd release (perhaps the 9.x will include it in the base system) but I need a solution now. Even if portmaster, is an excelent software, it could not help me (40 servers, and counting...) each server with about 880 packages that must be in sync The solution pkgng gives me, is what I was looking for, even the software is "alpha"... and sure have some problems, the version I tested (the one is in the servers) is working for me. I even tried to port "pacman, from arch linux", but pkgng is even faster.. Sergio From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 18:15:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2B9106566C for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695928FC16 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F010027EB2 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:15:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id D239A27EB1; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:15:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from cruwe.de (p5B37AF16.dip.t-dialin.net [91.55.175.22]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1012627EA9 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:15:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:15:53 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Wed__14_Sep_2011_18_15_53_+0200_5IDw5ANtWelO8BZl" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:15:58 -0000 --Signature=_Wed__14_Sep_2011_18_15_53_+0200_5IDw5ANtWelO8BZl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:20:13 +0200 Matthias Andree wrote: [...] =20 > I think you mentioned Arch Linux, further suggestions would be Gentoo > Linux (you might like emerge), and further options are Debian > GNU/kFreeBSD and using a FreeBSD base system with pkgsrc (rather than > ports) on top. Came as Gentoo user, abandoned Gentoo because of to many quirks with updati= ng packages (ebuilds). From my perspective, the situation is better here (F= reeBSD). Cheers --=20 Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 2 --Signature=_Wed__14_Sep_2011_18_15_53_+0200_5IDw5ANtWelO8BZl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOcNM+AAoJEJTIKW/o3iwU2CoP/3Eo6MDnsmLzwGLNdZr+9cgo znqQMDjKV0crkxyX1LurEgalPIdvkmAlM6XUgCPr1B8NvN/8rP8YOHP/A73HNyQA tpqxeO3h0rAnTSfqf5AESsAMtQaAreWyE6Tcl2iJJA0ND2vQ0MmY+2v9ep4no/Gb 0K57FHiSJJoDd8Nlq9uOKw3hInqQIiQnNiGJHpuqK5OWmUi6N9+6Z1gvbmFRWlT1 c4UYy/LzgIh0eooIXREL1LPI2U5b5hfrDwtIWz3cA2vFeurVExG95nwp1DTbLc5L TnRIFnVg9XdqNcx5mW1JqLhguGhQOBWEM3GyiJJ9CBWM8IMYBdCo/0Il0Hfw96HT XhpioR01rK+FVFIKLjcwx1YSeYfSkPR6FPujek1TLWb9FLaBV3jLLNTn4WyOA5Bg erQ22zT1Wpf2djAcQL+yN3D5CmEb5Djq2athtjW8ev42frNjpP7XOaL/u2DmDavY ld9giWPk4lNEaWZODaM+fezKJmpOauYudqLV4KyG+SyKD6+Q2ko2cLXEK4ORORda QawqMIOkc9L7Wgtg59BB+oyaYyP7QJk/9rd1+aKaHe+sctlZXo/fR9eZ4tQ4PLL/ VlkH09HbRxZv++54Fn9xLX4Kt4lPfj28kXJxnMcDpkNLO9zRsPiEjgYs1Mtq4z3V wMQiXdNUdusO/sJ0XjHH =OAP4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Wed__14_Sep_2011_18_15_53_+0200_5IDw5ANtWelO8BZl-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 18:29:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E881065674 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:29:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from afmcc@btinternet.com) Received: from nm1-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm1-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.108.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A59DA8FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:29:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.108.230] by nm1.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Sep 2011 18:29:01 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.225] by tm3.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Sep 2011 18:29:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Sep 2011 18:29:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 469588.81414.bm@omp1002.bt.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 44383 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2011 18:29:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jbQpWhJRDWsyz5mFMtYk9hrscyVPDNZujSUR4ahiUJB3kBn9PuFIHELU4Y1CH5aUVenCmfZsftpdjrdn8v8527rQCmf+/90ljCQwq3DSZl+waWNFdMWBn3Zf0vV75oaPmWHGuztts4W9irojeTbfkQkw+eQmm7w21Jq5Ndz3uWU= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1316024941; bh=0UGCKXp400Gq2FftLJqCr7citrumhm31fRe9ZmlTMF4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cFgI7wwKi5RkF+zIv1ZqegVygaqbCQ203WANI67taRohomZtSGEzAMYurBBDcIQtVEVF/FAXiBqzojpS5lqO23M73LX2K0XDkZ+QBVj0dYXCrVy06cj5W8Z/AWUCGjeqejzLHTEZRgQfcZr0zYm/PRYhr6L4A0fhQX88Rhngc/M= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: NL5UzIAVM1nRTHowwAo8d28xslteLHH297ZqICCxs0O654H XkoY1QYpPrTIBW.lL9hUt1Q.vgL2WHM3xoEr7uReXDERW8SfuiyfKShd1U5s gJsRNp0xF_m_xBHXLHXH82ansFX65IjTVCLmCl9gbbYYFwzpkvQSTstJDUAR 3H8XQ1S1sVCkpn8GsOVOVi0uG7L6RaBV87.qiyrI68i5f81xvl3HAtM3dyq0 PKDtcq5LpxyUPTJ6Cknm_SBQu.A2atoM.T7IPAN2sgrZ2Zkza7kjW_FrGQPr E9Qphdxu0P8chdGJkEY6RWUnfHMTWz62GhDpo_rjAxhvkeWvoIOxKYOWg2xh xlpnQ8ugL6IidR.d1I4WCHpgehps1y5SCHNMaltsno1NyktPvwei6qY_PnoI - X-Yahoo-SMTP: GbC5zv6swBDAJAX2wjERvjXPaCXFiJJLdMa.NuzRNApZ Received: from elena (afmcc@86.186.50.181 with login) by smtp822.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Sep 2011 18:29:00 +0000 GMT Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:29:00 +0100 From: Tony Mc To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110914192900.00b1a0f9@elena> In-Reply-To: <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:29:03 -0000 On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:27:22 +0200 Michal Varga wrote: > I have no other words beyond that because I can't even seriously > imagine what those people stating how everything is perfectly fine > now consider to be a working, modern, 24/7 ready desktop workstation. I am interested to know what you regard as a modern 24/7 ready desktop workstation. Seriously, I would like to know what you think I am missing by being happy with FreeBSD. I manage to read stuff, write stuff, print stuff, listen to stuff, watch stuff, backup stuff, archive stuff, burn CDs and DVDs - what am I missing? I use tcsh and command-line tools and Emacs and org-mode and LaTeX and claws-mail and Firefox and Rhythmbox and JPilot to sync with my Palm TX. When people send me Microsoft Office documents I even use LibreOffice occasionally. I use XFCE4 as my desktop environment and switch virtual desktops to focus on different kinds of activity. The computer runs 24/7 and performs housekeeping tasks overnight and is there again in the morning when I need to start work. I suppose my needs aren't that sophisticated - but I also wonder if what is missing is truly sophistication or simply different ways of accomplishing existing tasks. So if you have the time I would genuinely be interested to learn what a modern desktop machine now needs or offers. Best, Tony From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 19:15:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253FD106564A for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:15:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E090E8FC0A for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 184-78-197-203.war.clearwire-wmx.net ([184.78.197.203] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R3uw3-00056m-C5 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:15:28 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:15:49 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:15:49 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110914191549.GA2142@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <20110914192900.00b1a0f9@elena> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110914192900.00b1a0f9@elena> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:15:55 -0000 --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Tony Mc on Wednesday, 14 September 2011: > On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:27:22 +0200 > Michal Varga wrote: >=20 > > I have no other words beyond that because I can't even seriously > > imagine what those people stating how everything is perfectly fine > > now consider to be a working, modern, 24/7 ready desktop workstation. >=20 > I am interested to know what you regard as a modern 24/7 ready desktop > workstation. Seriously, I would like to know what you think I am > missing by being happy with FreeBSD. I manage to read stuff, write > stuff, print stuff, listen to stuff, watch stuff, backup stuff, archive > stuff, burn CDs and DVDs - what am I missing? I use tcsh > and command-line tools and Emacs and org-mode and LaTeX and claws-mail > and Firefox and Rhythmbox and JPilot to sync with my Palm TX. When > people send me Microsoft Office documents I even use LibreOffice > occasionally. I use XFCE4 as my desktop environment and switch virtual > desktops to focus on different kinds of activity. The computer runs > 24/7 and performs housekeeping tasks overnight and is there again in > the morning when I need to start work. >=20 > I suppose my needs aren't that sophisticated - but I also wonder if > what is missing is truly sophistication or simply different ways of > accomplishing existing tasks. So if you have the time I would genuinely > be interested to learn what a modern desktop machine now needs or > offers. >=20 > Best, > Tony By contrast, I avoid the GUI stuff as much as I can. I use a tiling window manager and almost everything I do, from writing code to listening to music, happens in a terminal window. My editor is vim, and my MUA is mutt. Yet as different as our desktop experiences are, FreeBSD powers them both. One of the reasons I like FreeBSD for the desktop is that I can make it anything I want. With Windows, I have to accept how Windows works -- the ability to customize that experience is extremely limited. --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOcP1lAAoJEIpckszW26+RT20H/jeEy6cnnDj4yivWLu7jvQkY 4ikbVV4eCFzpfLwnE0PpRMCV9IOUVsPgSOSQXnrv2m+mlyDqIRkwWfLz6Vo/GFTk f86oTwelaB38zOxgG/2aKkaOsG3sBcgThRTpnAl+BRg5N48Q8Xc2gtRU9afyzC5N kEHbNcRMN/M6qVhvIsl8EjLr0yk3Xp21gWC9AjSIW4a36uyJ6oFgbziawrRy/7aG BZiND+TRk9b4EnMo/f3I3AtZN4gUnvalnTYBdobK2vFdAABHZQeM9uTjm+eyIaVQ PMq2d3DGiPzNey68zUXkh0rr61r22lxUnF8NipGk+aZEvEMNfpGwEKaWH2D49T4= =mqxs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 20:54:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C84106566B for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from promo@powerclassroom.net) Received: from powerclassroom.powerclassroom.net (da.bc.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.188.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44178FC0C for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from user-1120ben.dsl.mindspring.com [66.32.45.215] by powerclassroom.powerclassroom.net with SMTP; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:25:53 -0400 From: "PowerMath" To: "ports" MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: PowerClassroom Software Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:22:52 -0400 Message-Id: <20110914205426.20C84106566B@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: PowerMath - Your Virtual Mathematics Assistant X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:54:26 -0000 PowerMath - Your Virtual Mathematics Assistant =20 =20 Changing the Way People Learn If you are unable to see this page < C= lick Here > =20 =20 Fall 2011 =20 Computer Animated Lesson Shows : Courses in Arithmetic, Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry, Pre-Calculus, = Calculus, Probability and Statistics covering Middle-School, High-School and University level Mathematics, = for Students and Instructors. for less than $0.67 cents per day=20 =20 =20 PowerMath has been featured on=20 among others . . .=20 =20 Exclusion: If you no longer wish to receive email from PowerClassroom Software in= voke < delete > Please do NOT reply to this e-mail if you wish to un= subscribe, instead use the instructions above. Any/all information c= ollected from our customers will not be sold, shared, or rented.=20 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 14 21:23:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2D71065670 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 21:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chukharev@mail.ru) Received: from fallback2.mail.ru (fallback2.mail.ru [94.100.176.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D929D8FC13 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 21:23:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp17.mail.ru (smtp17.mail.ru [94.100.176.154]) by fallback2.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id 5FF6E72127E9 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:06:07 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail; h=Message-ID:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version:Date:From:To:Subject:Content-Type; bh=kSGZzRIrighr+tCwQBjeJsa60U3DFtLZV7A4CO3n3OY=; b=uy8YJsjI6CXyaSIyLNQGR3+5ruJdIpgYDIueQ+T0Qt/ARGAlR7/y57Ih+iZwwMJTde/tkSpbYgpO4A2KaVYZO7tar4zaBCiFbWzgCJ08jpkVhGX6m7beV1KQhsLkRogM; Received: from [91.155.185.219] (port=60243 helo=localhost) by smtp17.mail.ru with asmtp id 1R3wej-0008Ef-00 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:06:05 +0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" From: chukharev@mail.ru Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:06:03 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.51 (FreeBSD) X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok Subject: Detecting dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 21:23:57 -0000 Hi, There have been a discussion about finding interdependencies of ports. I have a relatively simple Python script for that. There is a pr ports/160007 to add its early version. Unfortunately, I missed a reply to it, so there is an issue which I have not yet addressed... Since that time, I added reverse dependencies with full ports tree scanning (1 h on my 2.5GHz notebook) and saving the tree (directed graph, actually) to a file, so that rescanning all ports tree is not needed. See http://code.google.com/p/porttree/ If there will be interest, scanning packages interdependencies could also be added. -- Vladimir Chukharev Tampere University of Technology From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 05:25:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2EB1065672 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413E18FC15 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxk36 with SMTP id 36so2372238yxk.13 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:25:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=/G9RLu9gBycW9Zz5Ccdh11F1XkYBpRDZN3HV0AF+1Rc=; b=CWMa4eYKLh+bTjNaH71r0L0CzmGF8jDxiThSNOFBslPvArQIXUCaI/7B+lflHNSTw0 h/gDOFQQcVkwUxenZGcYnCZX9gjmi7JcsmH2uysqsl5UrgTicghZ7vfCM2K/No25k3S5 zTxBzjaD6vd1mdbPb/HLG4I7hOZ4i86N23IR0= Received: by 10.236.200.195 with SMTP id z43mr3489200yhn.127.1316064325382; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DataIX.net (adsl-99-190-81-85.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.190.81.85]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o39sm12694200ani.17.2011.09.14.22.25.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Jason Hellenthal Received: from DataIX.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by DataIX.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8F5PJ5D063989 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:25:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhell@DataIX.net) Received: (from jhell@localhost) by DataIX.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p8F5PHK9063988; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:25:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhell@DataIX.net) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:25:17 -0400 From: Jason Hellenthal To: chukharev@mail.ru Message-ID: <20110915052516.GA60152@DataIX.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Detecting dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:25:26 -0000 --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank YOU! this is a fine example of some of the better things that can be done to ease a maintainers lifecycle of ports and administration of systems. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:06:03AM +0300, chukharev@mail.ru wrote: > Hi, >=20 > There have been a discussion about finding interdependencies of ports. > I have a relatively simple Python script for that. There is a pr ports/16= 0007 > to add its early version. Unfortunately, I missed a reply to it, so there= is > an issue which I have not yet addressed... >=20 > Since that time, I added reverse dependencies with full ports tree scanni= ng > (1 h on my 2.5GHz notebook) and saving the tree (directed graph, actually) > to a file, so that rescanning all ports tree is not needed. >=20 A cache... awesome! > See http://code.google.com/p/porttree/ >=20 > If there will be interest, scanning packages interdependencies could > also be added. >=20 Yes! I certainly am interested. Idea Board: 1. Would be cool if this would work on already installed ports or packages too! just a thought. 2. If it would detect the presence of UTF-8 in the LANG or LC_ALL environment vars and use the appropriate drawing method for each rather than a default to UTF-8. "I am happy with it as is though" 3. Also upon note (2) detect the presence of networkx and not depend on it for your port and fall back to an ealier drawing method. "not sure how well this would play out" To be honest, I really wouldnt change anything about it from my standpoint. Its simplicity compliments its use. Bravo & Kudo's! --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://bit.ly/0x89D8547E iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOcYw8AAoJEJBXh4mJ2FR+mKMH/0O19Wy07+CxFL0/oBFKA5H+ qgXWYj4Liil6TI7D/EEpxLeXb3OgS6uZI1os8aAocODTaUkzivm+heShWZ5N1uMY shcu6ovkJPTHHmCyBnHBqr2+Zf6TnRaVOha4r+5Pj33h4puzcNihNYo3dUGkVpzl 2iK7ZjG6FUYszzX9NnwMc1I4ejQcMr0ByktYcKnp6PMEfvpZSFJvsY9BIS53Cxsj L3Uc63oQft4AVarQbbSXbhVVyZB7tt7uAZo8S/UJSwLWFqXrl1MXdKOzdGRxwRwS UbAFZta94oVFkBSekWGgYyv+QJOn+B3TZbNyf/UgYXjRaAzw7105dMkUnbGAE8o= =pgpz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 11:17:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158AC106564A for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shaun@FreeBSD.org) Received: from alpha.inerd.com (alpha.inerd.com [204.109.56.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D288FC0A for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from charon.picobyte.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpha.inerd.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD529147CD7; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:17:19 +0100 From: Shaun Amott To: chukharev@mail.ru Message-ID: <20110915111719.GA1486@charon.picobyte.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (FreeBSD i386) Cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Detecting dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:17:22 -0000 --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:06:03AM +0300, chukharev@mail.ru wrote: > There have been a discussion about finding interdependencies of ports. > I have a relatively simple Python script for that. There is a pr ports/16= 0007 > to add its early version. Unfortunately, I missed a reply to it, so there= is > an issue which I have not yet addressed... >=20 > Since that time, I added reverse dependencies with full ports tree scanni= ng > (1 h on my 2.5GHz notebook) and saving the tree (directed graph, actually) > to a file, so that rescanning all ports tree is not needed. >=20 > See http://code.google.com/p/porttree/ >=20 > If there will be interest, scanning packages interdependencies could > also be added. This looks like a useful tool. However, as Doug pointed out in another thread ("Detecting dependencies"), its method is inadequate when it comes to finding dependencies for shared library bumps. Specifically, it won't find dependencies hidden by disabled OPTIONS knobs. --=20 Shaun Amott // PGP: 0x6B387A9A "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Ralph Waldo Emerson --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5x3r8ACgkQkmhdCGs4eprEtwCg8Hr0yfT8m2Nguqu0ly552S7X cVcAoLE9qLOQavU4T5YwD0grG3c3sWYR =zOht -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 17:00:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098E9106564A for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:00:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lukasz@wasikowski.net) Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net (bijou.wasikowski.net [IPv6:2001:808:10f::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DA58FC12 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:00:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bijou.wasikowski.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559945C06F for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:00:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wasikowski.net Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net ([127.0.0.1]) by bijou.wasikowski.net (bijou.wasikowski.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XGo516BvHFlX for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:00:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.168.2] (leeloo.unixgroup.pl [62.121.126.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bijou.wasikowski.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 272AD5C063 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:00:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:00:47 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?xYF1a2FzeiBXxIVzaWtvd3NraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:00:56 -0000 W dniu 2011-09-14 18:15, Christopher J. Ruwe pisze: > Matthias Andree wrote: > > [...] > >> I think you mentioned Arch Linux, further suggestions would be >> Gentoo Linux (you might like emerge), and further options are >> Debian GNU/kFreeBSD and using a FreeBSD base system with pkgsrc >> (rather than ports) on top. > > Came as Gentoo user, abandoned Gentoo because of to many quirks > with updating packages (ebuilds). From my perspective, the > situation is better here (FreeBSD). Really? I've been using FreeBSD for over 10 years now, Gentoo for half of that time and I can surely say that Gentoo's portage is much better than FreeBSD's ports. 1. If there's a need for sysadmin to perform some tasks after updating a port: FreeBSD - look up UPDATING and search for any of the ports you're about to update. Gentoo - update whatever you need, at the end of the process you'll get all the information you need right on the screen. 2. Libraries bumps: FreeBSD: pkg_libchk likes to show false positives. Gentoo: revdep-rebuild works like a charm. 3. Someone deleted port I like to use / I want my personal ports tree: FreeBSD: I wish :/ Gentoo: overlays works well. 4. Port's options: FreeBSD: per port options in /var/db/ports or global in /etc/make.conf. It's hard to tell during update what options are set for the port. Also if I won't look in the Makefile of a specific port I won't be able to tell if WITH_SOMETHING will work with it. Gentoo: USE flags (global and per port) are nice to use and you see all the options set in one place during the update. 5. Port's versioning: FreeBSD: most ports available in one version, hard to downgrade if new version is not what I wanted for whatever reason. Gentoo: most ports available in at least few versions, update / downgrade is not a problem. -- best regards Lukasz Wasikowski From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 17:56:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69913106566B for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:56:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xavier.humbert@xavhome.fr.eu.org) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e0c:1:1599::10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2068FC0C for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from valinor.groumpf.org (unknown [82.228.31.93]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1769B9401C7 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:55:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.100.11] (enterprise.groumpf.org [192.168.100.11]) by valinor.groumpf.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5786E451E7 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:55:58 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org (freebsd-ports@freebsd.org) From: xavier.humbert@xavhome.fr.eu.org (Xavier HUMBERT) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:55:58 +0200 Message-ID: <1k7nitf.1ikr0yv1nu03laM%xavier.humbert@xavhome.fr.eu.org> Organization: Free Tibet X-Cat: R.I.P. Punky User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.8.3 (Mac OS X version 10.6.8 (x86)) Subject: Building caire and $PATH order X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:56:09 -0000 Hi, A couple of weeks ago, after installing openssl from ports, I changed PATH order in my .bash_login, in order to use /usr/local before /usr an so on. Today, I upgraded icu, and its dependants, including cairo. The build was successful until reaching cairo : ----------------------------------------------------------------------- checking how to allow undefined symbols in shared libraries used by test suite... checking whether cc supports -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined... yes -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no checking whether float word ordering is bigendian... fopen: No such file or directory fopen: No such file or directory unknown configure: error: Unknown float word ordering. You need to manually preset ax_cv_c_float_words_bigendian=no (or yes) according to your system. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Setting PATH with /usr/local *after*, on the command line fixed the problem. Is this a known behavior ? A mess with two include files with the same name in /usr/include and /usr/local/include ? Thanks, -- XAv In your pomp and all your glory you're a poorer man than me, as you lick the boots of death born out of fear. (Jethro Tull) From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 18:27:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57542106564A for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from code@apotheon.net) Received: from oproxy4-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy4.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1376C8FC16 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32304 invoked by uid 0); 15 Sep 2011 18:27:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2011 18:27:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.net; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=cgEpSF+fPlz7u5yFYCUWl2xgYcbGoZU6OLJAQuR4U1Q=; b=IsqgAx8Ym5zND/qfVjlLGOgJg2xOfn2QOJ820jED9BBA6OHMU3lEHZULVU0Nm7Y4rWHFSzxplfiyirMcs2rz4lP37eAoM5lm5SThsR4XQz8BWhmFqHw0NfHGI3riXeLX; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R4Geg-0007Hn-HH for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:27:23 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:08:15 -0600 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:08:15 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:27:27 -0000 --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 07:00:47PM +0200, =C5=81ukasz W=C4=85sikowski wrote: > W dniu 2011-09-14 18:15, Christopher J. Ruwe pisze: > >=20 > > Came as Gentoo user, abandoned Gentoo because of to many quirks with > > updating packages (ebuilds). From my perspective, the situation is > > better here (FreeBSD). >=20 > Really? I've been using FreeBSD for over 10 years now, Gentoo for half > of that time and I can surely say that Gentoo's portage is much better > than FreeBSD's ports. There are some nice things that portage does, and my experience with Gentoo is a few years out of date by now, but I remember one difference that made software management on FreeBSD much better than on Gentoo: If there was something broken with a FreeBSD port (a relative rarity), it would fail to install, leaving me with the older version. If there was something wrong with a Gentoo port, I'd end up with a broken install. I suppose your mileage may vary. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5yPw8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUp/gCgk9DSjc29TaGsNY2DIct4MVjx 0mgAoL5ZgEg+FJJpmB5WMVlrN5WCAnb/ =7ZNT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 18:46:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0011065677 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:46:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lukasz@wasikowski.net) Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net (bijou.wasikowski.net [IPv6:2001:808:10f::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61EDB8FC17 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bijou.wasikowski.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4545C06F for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:46:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wasikowski.net Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net ([127.0.0.1]) by bijou.wasikowski.net (bijou.wasikowski.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Rj1nKuWLLEj for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:46:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.168.2] (leeloo.unixgroup.pl [62.121.126.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bijou.wasikowski.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 695EA5C063 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:46:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:46:10 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?xYF1a2FzeiBXxIVzaWtvd3NraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:46:17 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 W dniu 2011-09-15 20:08, Chad Perrin pisze: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 07:00:47PM +0200, е│ukasz Wд┘sikowski wrote: >> W dniu 2011-09-14 18:15, Christopher J. Ruwe pisze: >>> >>> Came as Gentoo user, abandoned Gentoo because of to many quirks >>> with updating packages (ebuilds). From my perspective, the >>> situation is better here (FreeBSD). >> >> Really? I've been using FreeBSD for over 10 years now, Gentoo for >> half of that time and I can surely say that Gentoo's portage is >> much better than FreeBSD's ports. > > There are some nice things that portage does, and my experience > with Gentoo is a few years out of date by now, but I remember one > difference that made software management on FreeBSD much better > than on Gentoo: > > If there was something broken with a FreeBSD port (a relative > rarity), it would fail to install, leaving me with the older > version. If there was something wrong with a Gentoo port, I'd end > up with a broken install. That's true. But I've got probably less then 5 situations when Gentoo port broke that way. Overall experience of every day portage use is just plain better. I hope for some changes in FreeBSD's ports system, we know where to look for some good ideas. - -- best regards Lukasz Wasikowski -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5yR/IACgkQXlaUxx+udUXOKACfTusKK6NZ3NRvH2TPY6iVGGI7 cjkAnRYKjy5mqLROarl8AGN32467NlGi =UhL1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 18:56:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4FE1065672 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from code@apotheon.net) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A0C88FC1A for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9888 invoked by uid 0); 15 Sep 2011 18:56:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2011 18:56:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.net; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=QEltmYMa2hsWwVTZU+Rt63ieHILV03u2tKlLRRBc0tA=; b=yz9nJbotODrxU+zeDPZSQUnrdKWO/oNeHFJ0/4/4alUGCznJ8R1ZyIdRWd25pQsUrEqQZ3AHgseolcuTg6BXMfX9DCrVwmA6UkDJMDmTuvVbBL0tvvz4lHTYjFu7jxya; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R4H6f-00029s-Lp for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:56:18 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:37:10 -0600 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:37:10 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:56:19 -0000 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 08:46:10PM +0200, =C5=81ukasz W=C4=85sikowski wrote: > W dniu 2011-09-15 20:08, Chad Perrin pisze: > >=20 > > If there was something broken with a FreeBSD port (a relative > > rarity), it would fail to install, leaving me with the older > > version. If there was something wrong with a Gentoo port, I'd end > > up with a broken install. >=20 > That's true. But I've got probably less then 5 situations when Gentoo > port broke that way. Overall experience of every day portage use is > just plain better. I hope for some changes in FreeBSD's ports system, > we know where to look for some good ideas. It seems we have different priorities. I *hate* having a software update break my software. I would rather go through an extra step or two when updating my software if it means I won't get an update that makes the software unusable. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk5yRdYACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVl2gCgy2CaWUTcja0Xr21rgwKHZjwn TGYAnjtsLfh3d0p/vgo8BaVxP8S7TI+T =Y1rx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 19:36:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1712106564A for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lukasz@wasikowski.net) Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net (bijou.wasikowski.net [IPv6:2001:808:10f::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970C98FC08 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bijou.wasikowski.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244975C06F for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:36:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wasikowski.net Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net ([127.0.0.1]) by bijou.wasikowski.net (bijou.wasikowski.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P51il2zV6ePo for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:36:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.168.2] (leeloo.unixgroup.pl [62.121.126.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bijou.wasikowski.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F5135C063 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:36:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:36:15 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?xYF1a2FzeiBXxIVzaWtvd3NraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:36:23 -0000 W dniu 2011-09-15 20:37, Chad Perrin pisze: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 08:46:10PM +0200, е│ukasz Wд┘sikowski wrote: >> W dniu 2011-09-15 20:08, Chad Perrin pisze: >>> >>> If there was something broken with a FreeBSD port (a relative >>> rarity), it would fail to install, leaving me with the older >>> version. If there was something wrong with a Gentoo port, I'd end >>> up with a broken install. >> >> That's true. But I've got probably less then 5 situations when Gentoo >> port broke that way. Overall experience of every day portage use is >> just plain better. I hope for some changes in FreeBSD's ports system, >> we know where to look for some good ideas. > > It seems we have different priorities. I *hate* having a software update > break my software. I would rather go through an extra step or two when > updating my software if it means I won't get an update that makes the > software unusable. I'm not saying that portage is perfect, I'm just saying FreeBSD could grab some good things from it. Recent gdbm update broke some systems, because IIRC maintainer forgot to check all dependencies or mention it in UPDATING. Shared library bumps in Gentoo always comes with "after install" info about necessary revdep-rebuild run, so those kinds of trouble are avoided. BTW: You hate having a software update break your software. I hate when software updates turn off services on my servers. That's another thing portage do better - update won't turn off any service. You are supposed to restart services manually after doing etc-update. Speaking of which - another good idea worth adopting. -- best regards, Lukasz Wasikowski From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 19:52:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0402A10657C8 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DFF958FC0A for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Sep 2011 19:52:35 -0000 Received: from f055001220.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO mandree.no-ip.org) [78.55.1.220] by mail.gmx.net (mp015) with SMTP; 15 Sep 2011 21:52:35 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18XMbF6fjsXUYI/0wZ4itzyAGTPGEv/Xe/flcnFSA jRkBZSrH21189h Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1859B23DC3D for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:52:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E725782.3090107@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:52:34 +0200 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Mnenhy/0.8.3 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> In-Reply-To: <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:52:39 -0000 Am 15.09.2011 21:36, schrieb е│ukasz Wд┘sikowski: > BTW: You hate having a software update break your software. I hate when > software updates turn off services on my servers. That's another thing > portage do better - update won't turn off any service. You are supposed > to restart services manually after doing etc-update. Speaking of which - > another good idea worth adopting. Few ports stop services when getting deinstalled/upgraded, so it may be worth pinging the affected ports' maintainers about it. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 20:08:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959541065670 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F26B8FC17 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf2 with SMTP id 2so3045230gyf.13 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:08:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=FxBSzM4BBV1j0gI+cobLmcHGBlXjFAjhdWhEAu1a9Ak=; b=uZJhQ0KpxSgEgTb0r18qYwFhu7t1Fw6WSx4S1T2foI59QPnOSgo8bwv25MugUHKpQR 2U+IOyB2FXkFvyrMFWKlapBn3Hm7g0RKJqZ7syj39lf16OTuOSCT+BwX6dQi5f4hbu0X XV5F+x/VdxPDxkZS04fTSGw5ASsBOVZ5fi5U4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.131.137 with SMTP id z9mr1217254ics.32.1316117310379; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:08:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E725782.3090107@gmx.de> References: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> <4E725782.3090107@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:08:30 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Matthias Andree Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:08:31 -0000 On 15 Sep 2011 20:52, "Matthias Andree" wrote: > > Am 15.09.2011 21:36, schrieb =C5=81ukasz W=C4=85sikowski: > > > BTW: You hate having a software update break your software. I hate when > > software updates turn off services on my servers. That's another thing > > portage do better - update won't turn off any service. You are supposed > > to restart services manually after doing etc-update. Speaking of which = - > > another good idea worth adopting. > > Few ports stop services when getting deinstalled/upgraded, so it may be > worth pinging the affected ports' maintainers about it. Really? I thought it was supposed to be standard behaviour- the @stopdaemon line in pkg-plist facilitates that. I know the old pkg tools won't do this, but perhaps pkgng could have an option to disable stopping if desired.... Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 20:45:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410E8106564A for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:45:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aehlig@linta.de) Received: from linta.de (isilmar-3.linta.de [188.40.101.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4758FC1D for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7180 invoked by uid 10); 15 Sep 2011 20:45:33 -0000 Received: from curry.linta.de by isilmar.linta.de with BSMTP; 15 Sep 2011 20:45:33 -0000 Received: by curry.linta.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E38441CC1D; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:45:20 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:45:20 +0100 From: "Klaus T. Aehlig" To: stas@FreeBSD.org, ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110915204520.GA76518@curry.linta.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: Interaction between devel/ncurses and lang/ruby18? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:45:36 -0000 Hallo, on my system, I have devel/ncurses installed. While upgrading (to a ports tree as of yesterday evening) I found that I couldn't build lang/ruby18. The error message complained that libncurses.a was not compiled with -fPIC. Of course, adding the lines .if !empty(.CURDIR:M*/ports/devel/ncurses*) CFLAGS += -fPIC .endif to my /etc/make.conf and reinstalling devel/ncurses solved that problem. So my system is sound and safe. No worries there. However, I still want to mention this, as devel/ncurses is not a dependency of lang/ruby18, neither directly nor indirectly. And the way an unrelated port is build should have no effect on the build process. Has anybody observed something similar, or has an idea how such a thing could happen? Best regards, Klaus From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 20:54:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA537106566C for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:54:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7530C8FC08 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf2 with SMTP id 2so3085045gyf.13 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:54:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=j91v5R+5eCNcOhC4ieQza/3LEXpb85x5oYbmcT3yz5w=; b=cWUEjFa2d8yUeJSFTBOCJX80w2aGO37JSAX2zeAywGVXoTGcSCN4nw2nMWAGuJ0woS ZSzyFO8GYxQ6wZEgzIh2+EfX1q85Ugfo63D0eqSJpaCzQnGWh37yhOmysF3fvDrMUFCU 0JNRiTZD32h2VML66qYbvkwByNGqyvUFYmxOA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.115.7 with SMTP id n7mr1819025ybc.221.1316118487949; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.136.11 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:28:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> <4E725782.3090107@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:28:07 -0700 Message-ID: From: Xin LI To: Chris Rees Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Matthias Andree , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:54:57 -0000 On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Chris Rees wrote: > On 15 Sep 2011 20:52, "Matthias Andree" wrote: >> >> Am 15.09.2011 21:36, schrieb =C5=81ukasz W=C4=85sikowski: >> >> > BTW: You hate having a software update break your software. I hate whe= n >> > software updates turn off services on my servers. That's another thing >> > portage do better - update won't turn off any service. You are suppose= d >> > to restart services manually after doing etc-update. Speaking of which= - >> > another good idea worth adopting. >> >> Few ports stop services when getting deinstalled/upgraded, so it may be >> worth pinging the affected ports' maintainers about it. > > Really? I thought it was supposed to be standard behaviour- the @stopdaem= on > line in pkg-plist facilitates that. While I totally understand why we do this, I have to say it's VERY VERY annoying behavior especially when one upgrading a remote system with multiple server daemon ports. One have to watch the whole process carefully and restart the daemon manually. As part of symmetry, I think a reasonable behavior should be at least, if pkg_delete kills the daemon, pkg_add or make install should start it, and the user can optionally disable this behavior. Cheers, --=20 Xin LI https://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! Live free or die From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 21:00:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C17106566B for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E5D8FC0C for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadk27 with SMTP id k27so2554244iad.13 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:00:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZoOtNYqOGJg7+tGOUIXOmFk4zmBq50qJZwDTj9QslRA=; b=E9n2CWTMYOCUyIPBNTCXqBIGufvZ4fEoK20WIAmOPjHY/bTg2q+VG2IdC+cDOiTWuE QBv8AnvM3zoPEdCAaK/6RURvXIptXYvDVWeHJFH+RaPBkSJtHyHQKbYr7QGFjfHzrssa bvpIhgy9v7YagNAnttFcr6AGLkmf9DtvmchQ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.50.204 with SMTP id a12mr2522680ibg.58.1316120444094; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.61.148 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:00:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> <4E725782.3090107@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:00:43 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Xin LI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Matthias Andree , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:00:45 -0000 On 15 Sep 2011 21:28, "Xin LI" wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Chris Rees wrote: > > On 15 Sep 2011 20:52, "Matthias Andree" wrote: > >> > >> Am 15.09.2011 21:36, schrieb =C5=81ukasz W=C4=85sikowski: > >> > >> > BTW: You hate having a software update break your software. I hate when > >> > software updates turn off services on my servers. That's another thing > >> > portage do better - update won't turn off any service. You are supposed > >> > to restart services manually after doing etc-update. Speaking of which - > >> > another good idea worth adopting. > >> > >> Few ports stop services when getting deinstalled/upgraded, so it may b= e > >> worth pinging the affected ports' maintainers about it. > > > > Really? I thought it was supposed to be standard behaviour- the @stopdaemon > > line in pkg-plist facilitates that. > > While I totally understand why we do this, I have to say it's VERY > VERY annoying behavior especially when one upgrading a remote system > with multiple server daemon ports. One have to watch the whole > process carefully and restart the daemon manually. > > As part of symmetry, I think a reasonable behavior should be at least, > if pkg_delete kills the daemon, pkg_add or make install should start > it, and the user can optionally disable this behavior. > Hm, for my todo list :) Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 22:13:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA68E106566B for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stas@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mx0.deglitch.com (cl-414.sto-01.se.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:16d8:ff00:19d::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641D98FC08 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from orion.SpringDaemons.com (207.47.0.2.static.nextweb.net [207.47.0.2]) by mx0.deglitch.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 33D578FC38; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:13:48 +0400 (MSD) Received: from orion (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.SpringDaemons.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DEAE5C36; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:13:04 -0700 From: Stanislav Sedov To: "Klaus T. Aehlig" Message-Id: <20110915151304.98b219d1.stas@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20110915204520.GA76518@curry.linta.de> References: <20110915204520.GA76518@curry.linta.de> Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Mailer: carrier-pigeon Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Interaction between devel/ncurses and lang/ruby18? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:13:50 -0000 On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:45:20 +0100 "Klaus T. Aehlig" mentioned: > > Hallo, > > on my system, I have devel/ncurses installed. While upgrading > (to a ports tree as of yesterday evening) I found that I couldn't > build lang/ruby18. The error message complained that libncurses.a > was not compiled with -fPIC. > > Of course, adding the lines > > .if !empty(.CURDIR:M*/ports/devel/ncurses*) > CFLAGS += -fPIC > .endif > > to my /etc/make.conf and reinstalling devel/ncurses solved that problem. > So my system is sound and safe. No worries there. > > However, I still want to mention this, as devel/ncurses is not a dependency > of lang/ruby18, neither directly nor indirectly. And the way an unrelated > port is build should have no effect on the build process. > > Has anybody observed something similar, or has an idea how such a thing could > happen? > Hmm, it should not depend on ncurses, and certainly it should not link against a static library. Can you please send me a build log of lang/ruby18? Thanks! -- Stanislav Sedov ST4096-RIPE () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 22:36:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FDE106564A for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aehlig@linta.de) Received: from linta.de (isilmar-3.linta.de [188.40.101.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AA08FC13 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17686 invoked by uid 10); 15 Sep 2011 22:36:25 -0000 Received: from curry.linta.de by isilmar.linta.de with BSMTP; 15 Sep 2011 22:36:25 -0000 Received: by curry.linta.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D398B1CC1D; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:36:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:36:12 +0100 From: "Klaus T. Aehlig" To: Stanislav Sedov Message-ID: <20110915223612.GD76518@curry.linta.de> References: <20110915204520.GA76518@curry.linta.de> <20110915151304.98b219d1.stas@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110915151304.98b219d1.stas@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Interaction between devel/ncurses and lang/ruby18? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:36:28 -0000 --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Dear Stanislav, > Hmm, it should not depend on ncurses, and certainly it should not link against > a static library. Can you please send me a build log of lang/ruby18? I must admit that I'm not able to reproduce the error any more, so it seems to be something more subtle than the mere presence of devel/ncurses; but please find attached the relevant part of the script(1) of a BATCH=YES portupgrade -a session. Best regards, Klaus --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="lang-ruby.log" ---> Upgrading 'ruby-1.8.7.352_1,1' to 'ruby-1.8.7.352_2,1' (lang/ruby18) ---> Building '/usr/ports/lang/ruby18' ===> Cleaning for ruby-1.8.7.352_2,1 ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE ===> Found saved configuration for ruby-1.8.7.248_2,1 ===> Extracting for ruby-1.8.7.352_2,1 => SHA256 Checksum OK for ruby/ruby-1.8.7-p352.tar.bz2. /bin/mv /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p352/ext/dl/h2rb /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p352/bin/ ===> Patching for ruby-1.8.7.352_2,1 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for ruby-1.8.7.352_2,1 /bin/rm -rf /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p352/ext/Win32API /bin/rm -rf /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p352/ext/win32ole /bin/mv /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p352/ext/gdbm /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ /bin/mv /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p352/ext/iconv /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ /bin/mv /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p352/ext/tk /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ ===> ruby-1.8.7.352_2,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automake-1.11 - found ===> ruby-1.8.7.352_2,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf-2.68 - found ===> Configuring for ruby-1.8.7.352_2,1 /usr/bin/touch /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p352/configure /usr/local/share/aclocal/imlib.m4:9: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_IMLIB /usr/local/share/aclocal/imlib.m4:9: run info '(automake)Extending aclocal' /usr/local/share/aclocal/imlib.m4:9: or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal checking build system type... amd64-portbld-freebsd8 checking host system type... amd64-portbld-freebsd8 checking target system type... amd64-portbld-freebsd8 checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking for suffix of executables... checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc accepts -g... yes checking for /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc option to accept ISO C89... none needed checking how to run the C preprocessor... cpp checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /usr/bin/grep checking for egrep... /usr/bin/grep -E checking whether /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc needs -traditional... no checking whether the linker is GNU ld... yes checking whether cpp accepts -o... yes checking for bison... bison -y checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for ar... ar checking for as... as checking whether ln -s works... yes checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking minix/config.h usability... no checking minix/config.h presence... no checking for minix/config.h... no checking whether it is safe to define __EXTENSIONS__... yes checking for special C compiler options needed for large files... no checking for _FILE_OFFSET_BITS value needed for large files... no checking for long long... yes checking for off_t... yes checking size of int... 4 checking size of short... 2 checking size of long... 8 checking size of long long... 8 checking size of __int64... 0 checking size of off_t... 8 checking size of void*... 8 checking size of float... 4 checking size of double... 8 checking size of time_t... 8 checking for pid_t... yes checking for gid_t... yes checking for uid_t... yes checking for prototypes... yes checking token paste string... ansi checking for variable length prototypes and stdarg.h... yes checking for noreturn function attribute... __attribute__ ((noreturn)) x checking for noinline function attribute... __attribute__ ((noinline)) x checking for RUBY_EXTERN... no checking whether sys_nerr is declared... yes checking whether -lxpg4 has to be linked... no checking for crypt in -lcrypt... yes checking for dlopen in -ldl... no checking for shl_load in -ldld... no checking for library containing clock_gettime... none required checking for dirent.h that defines DIR... yes checking for library containing opendir... none required checking for ANSI C header files... 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-I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c enum.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c enumerator.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c error.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c eval.c eval.c: In function 'rb_eval_string_wrap': eval.c:1744: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type eval.c: In function 'rb_eval_cmd': eval.c:1885: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type eval.c: In function 'call_trace_func': eval.c:2736: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type eval.c: In function 'rb_raise_jump': eval.c:4770: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type eval.c: In function 'method_missing': eval.c:5736: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type eval.c: In function 'rb_call0': eval.c:5894: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type eval.c: In function 'rb_f_eval': eval.c:6696: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type eval.c: In function 'exec_under': eval.c:6720: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type eval.c: In function 'rb_load': eval.c:7036: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type eval.c: In function 'call_end_proc': eval.c:8071: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type eval.c: In function 'rb_f_END': eval.c:8084: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type eval.c: In function 'mproc': eval.c:9860: warning: assignment discards qualifiers from pointer target type /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c file.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c gc.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c hash.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c inits.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c io.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c marshal.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c math.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c numeric.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c object.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c pack.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c parse.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c process.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c prec.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c random.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c range.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c re.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c regex.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c ruby.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c signal.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c sprintf.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c st.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c string.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c struct.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c time.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c util.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c variable.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c version.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c dmyext.c ar rcu libruby18-static.a array.o bignum.o class.o compar.o dir.o dln.o enum.o enumerator.o error.o eval.o file.o gc.o hash.o inits.o io.o marshal.o math.o numeric.o object.o pack.o parse.o process.o prec.o random.o range.o re.o regex.o ruby.o signal.o sprintf.o st.o string.o struct.o time.o util.o variable.o version.o dmyext.o /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -I/usr/include -c main.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -L. -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib -pthread -rdynamic -pthread main.o libruby18-static.a -lcrypt -lm -L/usr/lib -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib -pthread -o miniruby rbconfig.rb updated /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -shared -Wl,-soname,libruby18.so.18 array.o bignum.o class.o compar.o dir.o dln.o enum.o enumerator.o error.o eval.o file.o gc.o hash.o inits.o io.o marshal.o math.o numeric.o object.o pack.o parse.o process.o prec.o random.o range.o re.o regex.o ruby.o signal.o sprintf.o st.o string.o struct.o time.o util.o variable.o version.o dmyext.o -lcrypt -lm -L/usr/lib -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib -pthread -o libruby18.so.18 compiling bigdecimal mkdir -p ../../.ext/amd64-freebsd8 /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I. -I../.. -I../../. -I../.././ext/bigdecimal -DBASE=1000000000UL -DBASE_FIG=9 -I/usr/include -fPIC -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -c bigdecimal.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -shared -o ../../.ext/amd64-freebsd8/bigdecimal.so bigdecimal.o -L. -L../.. -L. -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib -pthread -rdynamic -Wl,-soname,../../.ext/amd64-freebsd8/bigdecimal.so -Wl,-R -Wl,/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lruby18 -lcrypt -lm -L/usr/lib -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib -pthread mkdir -p ../../.ext/common/bigdecimal cp ../.././ext/bigdecimal/lib/bigdecimal/util.rb ../../.ext/common/bigdecimal cp ../.././ext/bigdecimal/lib/bigdecimal/ludcmp.rb ../../.ext/common/bigdecimal cp ../.././ext/bigdecimal/lib/bigdecimal/jacobian.rb ../../.ext/common/bigdecimal cp ../.././ext/bigdecimal/lib/bigdecimal/math.rb ../../.ext/common/bigdecimal cp ../.././ext/bigdecimal/lib/bigdecimal/newton.rb ../../.ext/common/bigdecimal compiling curses /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -I. -I../.. -I../../. -I../.././ext/curses -DHAVE_NCURSES_H -DHAVE_BEEP -DHAVE_BKGD -DHAVE_BKGDSET -DHAVE_CURS_SET -DHAVE_DELETELN -DHAVE_DOUPDATE -DHAVE_FLASH -DHAVE_GETBKGD -DHAVE_GETNSTR -DHAVE_ISENDWIN -DHAVE_KEYNAME -DHAVE_KEYPAD -DHAVE_RESIZETERM -DHAVE_SCRL -DHAVE_SETSCRREG -DHAVE_UNGETCH -DHAVE_WATTROFF -DHAVE_WATTRON -DHAVE_WATTRSET -DHAVE_WBKGD -DHAVE_WBKGDSET -DHAVE_WDELETELN -DHAVE_WGETNSTR -DHAVE_WRESIZE -DHAVE_WSCRL -DHAVE_WSETSCRREG -DHAVE_DEF_PROG_MODE -DHAVE_RESET_PROG_MODE -DHAVE_TIMEOUT -DHAVE_WTIMEOUT -DHAVE_NODELAY -DHAVE_INIT_COLOR -DHAVE_WCOLOR_SET -D_XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED -I/usr/include -I/usr/include -fPIC -I/usr/include -pipe -g -fPIC -c curses.c /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world/cc -shared -o ../../.ext/amd64-freebsd8/curses.so curses.o -L. -L../.. -L. -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib -pthread -rdynamic -Wl,-soname,../../.ext/amd64-freebsd8/curses.so -Wl,-R -Wl,/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lruby18 -lncurses -ltinfo -lcrypt -lm -L/usr/lib -rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib -pthread /usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/lib/libncurses.a(lib_addch.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /usr/local/lib/libncurses.a: could not read symbols: Bad value *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p352/ext/curses. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.7-p352. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20110915-38588-13h4rid env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=ruby-1.8.7.352_1,1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.8.7.352_1,1 make ** Fix the problem and try again. --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 01:39:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org 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To: Xavier HUMBERT , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: Building caire and $PATH order X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:39:49 -0000 > A couple of weeks ago, after installing openssl from ports, I changed > PATH order in my .bash_login, in order to use /usr/local before /usr an > so on. > > Today, I upgraded icu, and its dependants, including cairo. The build > was successful until reaching cairo : > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > checking how to allow undefined symbols in shared libraries used by test > suite... checking whether cc supports -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined... yes > -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined > checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no > checking whether float word ordering is bigendian... fopen: No such file > or directory > fopen: No such file or directory > unknown > configure: error: > > Unknown float word ordering. You need to manually preset > ax_cv_c_float_words_bigendian=no (or yes) according to your system. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Setting PATH with /usr/local *after*, on the command line fixed the > problem. > > Is this a known behavior ? A mess with two include files with the same > name in /usr/include and /usr/local/include ? It is difficult to figure out what went wrong, because you have not isolated the point of failure, or provided a full listing of your environment, the config.log, and a build transcript. The error message is of the kind that would be issued if the conftest.o file for the configure script test were deleted before the test was concluded, which could happen if there were hardware problems, or if the parts of the work directory were removed during the build, so I wonder if this problem is consistently reproducible. Header interposition can occur, but usually happens when you change compilers or tinker with the compiler flags, and not the system path. If your failure wasn't transient, or due to hardware problems, it is more likely that you are using different binary executables with the changed system path, because some of them are called in system Makefiles or configure scripts by their basenames. For instance, in the test that failed: 17786: { $as_echo "$as_me:${as_lineno-$LINENO}: checking whether float word ordering is bigendian" >&5 17787:$as_echo_n "checking whether float word ordering is bigendian... " >&6; } 17788-if test "${ax_cv_c_float_words_bigendian+set}" = set; then : 17789- $as_echo_n "(cached) " >&6 17790-else 17791- 17792- 17793-# The endianess is detected by first compiling C code that contains a special 17794-# double float value, then grepping the resulting object file for certain 17795-# strings of ascii values. The double is specially crafted to have a 17796-# binary representation that corresponds with a simple string. In this 17797-# implementation, the string "noonsees" was selected because the individual 17798-# word values ("noon" and "sees") are palindromes, thus making this test 17799-# byte-order agnostic. If grep finds the string "noonsees" in the object 17800-# file, the target platform stores float words in big-endian order. If grep 17801-# finds "seesnoon", float words are in little-endian order. If neither value 17802-# is found, the user is instructed to specify the ordering. 17803- 17804-ax_cv_c_float_words_bigendian=unknown 17805-cat confdefs.h - <<_ACEOF >conftest.$ac_ext 17806-/* end confdefs.h. */ 17807- 17808- 17809-double d = 90904234967036810337470478905505011476211692735615632014797120844053488865816695273723469097858056257517020191247487429516932130503560650002327564517570778480236724525140520121371739201496540132640109977779420565776568942592.0; 17810- 17811- 17812-_ACEOF 17813-if ac_fn_c_try_compile "$LINENO"; then : 17814- 17815- 17816-if strings - conftest.$ac_objext | grep noonsees >/dev/null ; then 17817- ax_cv_c_float_words_bigendian=yes 17818-fi 17819-if strings - conftest.$ac_objext | grep seesnoon >/dev/null ; then 17820- if test "$ax_cv_c_float_words_bigendian" = unknown; then 17821- ax_cv_c_float_words_bigendian=no 17822- else 17823- ax_cv_c_float_words_bigendian=unknown 17824- fi 17825-fi , without even examining the configure script functions that are called, one can see that 'strings' and 'grep' are called by their basenames, and that changing the path could affect the binary executables used by the test, and thus the test outcome. This isn't desirable, but is common in a lot of configure scripts and Makefiles, so it is not a good idea to change the path arbitrarily. It would be safer to just call the security/openssl utilities by their full pathnames, or at least to only override the basenames of the security/openssl utilities, and not others, by doing something like: mkdir /usr/local/opensslbin ln -s /usr/local/bin/openssl /usr/local/opensslbin/openssl ln -s /usr/local/bin/c_rehash /usr/local/opensslbin/c_rehash and adding /usr/local/opensslbin to your path before /usr/bin. But if you want to learn why the path change caused this failure, or even if it did, then you will have to dig a bit deeper. b. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 06:25:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86C4106564A for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 06:25:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aehlig@linta.de) Received: from linta.de (isilmar-3.linta.de [188.40.101.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029D68FC08 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 06:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25222 invoked by uid 10); 16 Sep 2011 06:25:06 -0000 Received: from curry.linta.de by isilmar.linta.de with BSMTP; 16 Sep 2011 06:25:06 -0000 Received: by curry.linta.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3D7FB1CC1D; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:24:53 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:24:52 +0100 From: "Klaus T. Aehlig" To: ??ukasz W??sikowski Message-ID: <20110916062452.GA57167@curry.linta.de> References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: overlays (was: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 06:25:16 -0000 Hi, > 3. Someone deleted port I like to use / I want my personal ports tree: > FreeBSD: I wish :/ > Gentoo: overlays works well. Now I'm really curios what magic device gentoo has. Once thing I most appreciate about FreeBSD is how flexible it is in precisely this manner. * if some port is removed or I just want an old version of some port I just use cvs sticky tags. That's the nice thing about having a repository with full history and even having it mirrored on my own hard disk[1]. * Of course, no one prevents me from installing my own ports. And this fits amazingly well, as dependencies are defined semantically (a certain library/binary/... has to be installed---not a particular port) * But, most importantly, /etc/make.conf is the device for proper overlays, that is, I have a way to modify a port without forking it. And I think that this is really nice that I can go my own way here while still benefiting from the good work of the maintainer. And I never had anything I wanted that I couldn't achieve by adding something like .if !empty(.CURDIR:M*/ports/foo/bar*) CFLAGS += ... EXTRA_PATCHES += /wherever/I/store/my/personal/patches.diff post-extract: # do something... pst-configure: # do something... post-patch: # do something ... pre-install: # do something... # and so on .endif to my /etc/make.conf. Could you please elaborate, which additional features gentoo's overlay system brings on top of that? Best regards, Klaus [1] I use CTM for that, but there is more than one way to do it. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 07:46:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25250106564A for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FBC8FC15 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.70]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CC8E16B4A6 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:46:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:45:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:45:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.6dollardialup To: freebsd-ports Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Remove dependency on xz - How? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:46:18 -0000 archivers/xz is mark IGNORE because xz is now in the base system (8.2) Numerous other ports won't build because they believe they depend on xz (or on a port that depends on xz) I'd like to remove the dependencies on xz from the pkgs database. pkgdb -s /xz-5.0.0// won't work as the slash notation might suggest it would because -s does not accept a 'empty argument' I am afraid to remove the xz package because it seems to me it would delete the base system xz -- and I don't want to make world if I can avoid it. Is there some sensible way to do this? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 08:11:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D79106564A for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varga.michal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C508FC17 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe3 with SMTP id 3so4476364wwe.31 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:11:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:organization :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D/zeF3NRILqnzMkfeOhaHzr2NTRkYOYRB96/kjFVeEE=; b=mjbEwwbx2rjCh8nS3EW44U90oD671bM+dUrhxxQSvzZUeeFQLhHbFzx70XaRufZFA0 r2KrGNf2wt1PZjHzCavYRL9ojVDRzxqQg/ftgoSV4bnvofo/+qLOsp9A/fa270i+4nPG s8giJ/4gxm/R/8vzCXBEOLSeD8qqj7oLj/BkY= Received: by 10.227.201.8 with SMTP id ey8mr810689wbb.108.1316160685253; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.101.2] (254.166.broadband10.iol.cz. [90.177.166.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r3sm11277062wbm.18.2011.09.16.01.11.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:11:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Michal Varga To: Lars Eighner In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Stonehenge Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:11:21 +0200 Message-ID: <1316160681.31339.27.camel@xenon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Remove dependency on xz - How? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:11:26 -0000 On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 02:45 -0500, Lars Eighner wrote: > archivers/xz is mark IGNORE because xz is now in the base system (8.2) > > Numerous other ports won't build because they believe they depend on xz (or > on a port that depends on xz) > > I'd like to remove the dependencies on xz from the pkgs database. > > pkgdb -s /xz-5.0.0// won't work as the slash notation might suggest it would > because -s does not accept a 'empty argument' > > I am afraid to remove the xz package because it seems to me it would delete > the base system xz -- and I don't want to make world if I can avoid it. Try: $ ls -l /usr/bin/xz $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/xz $ pkg_which /usr/local/bin/xz In short: It won't. Ports generally do not install into base hier(7). Also, even if case such situation happened, you'd be much quicker with: # cd /usr/src/usr.bin/xz # make clean # make # make install [ # make clean ] > Is there some sensible way to do this? Force deinstall xz package, run pkgdb -Fuf, confirm deleting the unneeded dependency (if asked), and you're done. m. -- Michal Varga, Stonehenge (Gmail account) From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 09:44:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955A61065672 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165378FC17 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8G9iMYv059333; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:44:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p8G9iLC5059332; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:44:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:44:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <201109160944.p8G9iLC5059332@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, chukharev@mail.ru, jhell@dataix.net In-Reply-To: <20110915052516.GA60152@DataIX.net> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-ports User-Agent: tin/1.9.6-20101126 ("Burnside") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.5 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:44:37 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Detecting dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:44:50 -0000 Jason Hellenthal wrote: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:06:03AM +0300, chukharev@mail.ru wrote: > > There have been a discussion about finding interdependencies of ports. > > I have a relatively simple Python script for that. There is a pr ports/160007 > > to add its early version. Unfortunately, I missed a reply to it, so there is > > an issue which I have not yet addressed... > [...] > > 1. Would be cool if this would work on already installed ports or packages > too! just a thought. That's what a script of mine does (it's also in Python): http://www.secnetix.de/olli/scripts/pkg_dep_view > 2. If it would detect the presence of UTF-8 in the LANG or LC_ALL > environment vars and use the appropriate drawing method for each rather > than a default to UTF-8. "I am happy with it as is though" Maybe have a look at my script, it might help. It uses Python's curses module to display graphical line characters using the ACS feature (alternate character set). This is independent from the local (UTF-8, ISO8859, ASCII) and works very well with terminals that support line drawing characters, such as xterm, vt100 and so on. When there is no such support (dumb terminal, or not supported by termcap, or stdout is a pipe), normal ASCII characters are used instead. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, GeschДftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht MЭn- chen, HRB 125758, GeschДftsfЭhrer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "I have stopped reading Stephen King novels. Now I just read C code instead." -- Richard A. O'Keefe From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 09:44:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4331106566B for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lukasz@wasikowski.net) Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net (bijou.wasikowski.net [IPv6:2001:808:10f::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2D48FC16 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bijou.wasikowski.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3122B5C06F; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:45:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wasikowski.net Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net ([127.0.0.1]) by bijou.wasikowski.net (bijou.wasikowski.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qk-SB6cuosFT; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:45:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.138.150] (cadera.waw.pl [62.121.127.119]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bijou.wasikowski.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3580D5C063; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:45:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E731A92.1050700@wasikowski.net> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:44:50 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?xYF1a2FzeiBXxIVzaWtvd3NraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Klaus T. Aehlig" References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110916062452.GA57167@curry.linta.de> In-Reply-To: <20110916062452.GA57167@curry.linta.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: overlays X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:44:58 -0000 W dniu 2011-09-16 08:24, Klaus T. Aehlig pisze: > Now I'm really curios what magic device gentoo has. Once thing I > most appreciate about FreeBSD is how flexible it is in precisely > this manner. [...] > Could you please elaborate, which additional features gentoo's overlay > system brings on top of that? Simplicity. I'm not familiar with FreeBSD's way of doing overlays, quick googling and quick testing may be not enough to say anything in that matter, so I'll just describe how I do it in Gentoo. I've got ca. 70 Gentoo servers and I want my own portage overlay. So I've set up svn server with my ports. Each of 70 servers has a script in /etc/portage/postsync.d which retrives my ports from svn server during the synchronization of portage tree. Each server have a line in /etc/make.conf: PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/some/local/directory Let's say I've wrote a new ebuild for a new category, for example: my-category/my-port/my-port-1.0.ebuild. Now I have to do prepare it for "shipping", so: cd my-category/my-port && ebuild my-port-1.0.ebuild digest && svn ci That's all, after next portage update (via emerge --sync) I'll end with up-to-date official portage tree and up-to-date my overlay. Ports from my overlay will work with emerge out of the box (checking for new USE flags, checking if port needs updating, etc.) Summarize: Enable overlay: - one simple script in postsync.d - one line in make.conf Prepare port for tree: - one command to make ebuild - one command to commit it to svn Sync and install/update: - one command to update portage tree on each server - one command to install/update port(s) How would it look like on FreeBSD? -- best regards Lukasz Wasikowski From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 09:51:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD64106566B for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:51:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5413E8FC0C for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:f803:edca:622b:8392]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A84304AC1C for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:51:36 +0400 (MSD) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:51:26 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <46157122.20110916135126@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> <4E725782.3090107@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:51:38 -0000 Hello, Freebsd-ports. You wrote 16 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8F=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2011 =D0=B3.,= 0:28:07: >> Really? I thought it was supposed to be standard behaviour- the @stopdae= mon >> line in pkg-plist facilitates that. > While I totally understand why we do this, I have to say it's VERY > VERY annoying behavior especially when one upgrading a remote system > with multiple server daemon ports. One have to watch the whole > process carefully and restart the daemon manually. Yep, and even more annoyingly is that it is completely inconsistent: some daemons are stopped, some not, etc. --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 10:04:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAD7106564A for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aehlig@linta.de) Received: from linta.de (isilmar-3.linta.de [188.40.101.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9F68FC14 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:04:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4204 invoked by uid 10); 16 Sep 2011 10:04:19 -0000 Received: from kta1c10 by isilmar.linta.de with BSMTP; 16 Sep 2011 10:04:19 -0000 Received: by kta1c10.sesnet.soton.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D9A343981D; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:04:10 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:04:10 +0100 From: "Klaus T. Aehlig" To: ??ukasz W??sikowski Message-ID: <20110916100410.GA49494@kta1c10.sesnet.soton.ac.uk> References: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110916062452.GA57167@curry.linta.de> <4E731A92.1050700@wasikowski.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E731A92.1050700@wasikowski.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: overlays X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:04:21 -0000 > Simplicity. [...] I've got ca. 70 Gentoo servers and I want my own > portage overlay. Thank you very much for that explanation! I was thinking in a different direction, as the number of machines I have is quite limited, each with very specific needs. As long as it is only about adding new ports, I would probably have /usr/ports/local a checkout of my personal repository with the rest of /usr/ports a checkout of the official repository (cvs allows this and cvs update will tacitly update each directory form the repository it belongs). But as I said, I have no practical experience with the same overlay on a bulk of machines. My thought was in the direction of tweaking a single machine to its very specific needs while keeping maintenance of the tweaked machine simple. So thanks for clarifying this and best regards, Klaus From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 11:16:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8BD106566C for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etherforet@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B738FC16 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe3 with SMTP id 3so4665436wwe.31 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 04:16:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+Qa1mZXOWy28dS1QOSTYi+9s8Kk+3GDSFVSLDYjhAL4=; b=fHAzjiDtFeJeaFK9pvu24gbaRQiJGeamPODyAS6Bx4PI+630b+9/xTYr3BdCzjsGcX O2USAIahj3SuAYbMqsZwQ6SzYIkj563CTC5se1KF4eCsJuBOorvzku8WUTPXOAT72ElQ X/goXP1rV7ZHPxzCW7MR/CA1BB24kFD5Xga1A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.229.95 with SMTP id g73mr1305163weq.48.1316170158684; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.68.67 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:49:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:49:18 +0900 Message-ID: From: etherforet To: ports@freebsd.org, srn@k66.ru Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: freevrrpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:16:57 -0000 Hi,all. for OLD FreeVRRPd 0.9x,settings example. -- box1: / etc / rc.conf ifconfig_em0 =3D "inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" box1: / usr / local / etc / freevrrpd.conf [VRID] serverid =3D 1 interface =3D em0 carriertimeout =3D 10 spanningtreelatency =3D 0 priority =3D 200 addr =3D 192.168.0.1/24 monitoredcircuits =3D yes MCClearErrorsCount =3D 3600 masterscript =3D / usr / local / bin / master_script.sh backupscript =3D / usr / local / bin / backup_script.sh password =3D vrid1 - box2: / etc / rc.conf ifconfig_em0 =3D "inet 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0" box2: / usr / local / etc / freevrrpd.conf [VRID] serverid =3D 1 interface =3D em0 carriertimeout =3D 10 spanningtreelatency =3D 0 priority =3D 100 addr =3D 192.168.0.1/24 monitoredcircuits =3D yes MCClearErrorsCount =3D 3600 masterscript =3D / usr / local / bin / master_script.sh backupscript =3D / usr / local / bin / backup_script.sh password =3D vrid1 -- Can be set for the segment were the same. However, NEWer FreeVRRPd 1.0 is A real IP and you need to set up to another segment. # bug? For example, IP assigned to the real card of real IP / etc / rc.conf ifconfig_em0 =3D "inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" Virtual IP assigned to the virtual card (assign ngether0: or n / usr / local / etc / freevrrpd.conf [VRID] serverid =3D 1 interface =3D em0 carriertimeout =3D 10 spanningtreelatency =3D 0 priority =3D 200 addr =3D 192.168.1.1/24 monitoredcircuits =3D yes MCClearErrorsCount =3D 3600 masterscript =3D / usr / local / bin / master_script.sh backupscript =3D / usr / local / bin / backup_script.sh password =3D vrid1 Needs to be set like this. When using a local router is not a problem, would be a little trouble setting the scene for small segment of GLOBAL edge router. # I need 0.9x ;) 2011/8/26 : > Hello, my name is Mihail Suhorosov, Im from Russia and I use you port for > FreeBSD freevrrpd.(My BSD version is 8.2) > > I have some problem. I can't start this programm. My config is: > [VRID] > serverid =3D 1 > interface =3D re0 > priority =3D 255 > addr =3D 10.50.40.8/32 > #masterscript =3D /usr/local/bin/master_script.sh > #backupscript =3D /usr/local/bin/backup_script.sh > #password =3D vrid1 > > After start I see in log: > Aug 26 17:31:52 tim freevrrpd[1687]: launching daemon in background mode > Aug 26 17:31:52 tim freevrrpd[1688]: initializing threads and all VRID > Aug 26 17:31:52 tim freevrrpd[1688]: reading configuration file > /usr/local/etc/freevrrpd.conf > Aug 26 17:31:52 tim freevrrpd[1688]: cannot create a bridge device: No su= ch > file or directory > Aug 26 17:31:52 tim freevrrpd[1688]: aborting... > > So i think it cant connetct to interface. But why i dont know.... > In my netcard i have alias 10.50.40.8 > > Please help my)) > > Bets whishes, > =A0Suhorosov Mihail. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 12:01:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8384F106564A; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvs-src@yandex.ru) Received: from forward14.mail.yandex.net (forward14.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F119C8FC0A; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (smtp14.mail.yandex.net [95.108.131.192]) by forward14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 520EA1981967; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:01:42 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1316174502; bh=o8TvMNTvMFTFP7C8o1PPOYENVVD2nDb95yNzraEGGyM=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QuTZVM7wZScplJrLChAqymIY74faw8aBHz0vwc5OIJkoPrNFaeSXV+324TuMebfuC SidSnJJjvaLH97Sj/+gVuG6m4NjHIt0BjWP/NMQUbQNGL0Tx7FMUsQX87erkh1VJmL p1CjW7Lm1MwMRMVGMEDBr2XjtUKKYHivr1dDD7wc= Received: from smtp14.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 1F0E31B60145; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:01:42 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1316174502; bh=o8TvMNTvMFTFP7C8o1PPOYENVVD2nDb95yNzraEGGyM=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QuTZVM7wZScplJrLChAqymIY74faw8aBHz0vwc5OIJkoPrNFaeSXV+324TuMebfuC SidSnJJjvaLH97Sj/+gVuG6m4NjHIt0BjWP/NMQUbQNGL0Tx7FMUsQX87erkh1VJmL p1CjW7Lm1MwMRMVGMEDBr2XjtUKKYHivr1dDD7wc= Received: from unknown (unknown [213.27.65.65]) by smtp14.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id 1fhmiBZq-1fh0Ah51; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:01:41 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Message-ID: <4E733A99.1020806@yandex.ru> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:01:29 +0400 From: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110916 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Whitehouse References: <4e5dc69f.y98a8wi3n/UYU+Z/%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <4E5E3364.7050308@yandex.ru> <4E5E7EAA.4030303@onetel.com> <4E5E84B4.6040200@yandex.ru> <4E5EB5ED.9080506@onetel.com> <4E60916A.2020002@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <4E60916A.2020002@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, acm@FreeBSD.org, perryh@pluto.rain.com Subject: Re: editors/zim X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:01:44 -0000 Good day there. Maintainer timeout 2weeks has reached. Can please anybody commit this? http://bugs.freebsd.org/160385 Thanks in advance. Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote on 02.09.2011 12:18: > Chris Whitehouse wrote on 01.09.2011 02:30: > > [skipping the details since original problem was solved] > >> Now it builds and installs and is working fine, _and_ my original >> problem has gone away. >> >> thanks very much for your help. I'll drop the author a line to say it's >> been fixed. >> >> Chris > > Sorry for delay, i now added sqlite3 dependency and some optional > dependencies for zim plugins (besides the gtkspell one, since the plugin > needs python binding to gtkspell that we seems lacking in the ports > tree). This pr was submitted: http://bugs.freebsd.org/160385. > > I also reupploaded port tarball and the diff. -- Regards, Ruslan Tinderboxing kills... the drives. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 13:12:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58D81065673 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from benjamin.stier@ub.uni-tuebingen.de) Received: from mx06.uni-tuebingen.de (mx06.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.3.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FF28FC14 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nuc.ub.uni-tuebingen.de (nuc.ub.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.67.100]) by mx06.uni-tuebingen.de (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p8GClTOZ014640 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:47:29 +0200 Received: from schu.ub.uni-tuebingen.de (schu.ub.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.67.177]) by nuc.ub.uni-tuebingen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8GClTP2013880 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:47:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from benjamin.stier@ub.uni-tuebingen.de) Received: from schu.ub.uni-tuebingen.de (localhost.ub.uni-tuebingen.de [127.0.0.1]) by schu.ub.uni-tuebingen.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8GClSxr031437 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:47:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stier@schu.ub.uni-tuebingen.de) Received: (from stier@localhost) by schu.ub.uni-tuebingen.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p8GClSqP031436 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:47:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stier) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:47:28 +0200 From: Benjamin Stier To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110916124728.GA36564@schu.ub.uni-tuebingen.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-AntiVirus-Spam-Check: clean (checked by Avira MailGate: version: 3.2.1.23; spam filter version: 3.2.0/2.3; host: mx06) X-AntiVirus: checked by Avira MailGate (version: 3.2.1.23; AVE: 8.2.5.34; VDF: 7.11.10.215; host: mx06); id=4917-N9YioZ Subject: Compilation impossible using TARGET_ARCH=i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: benjamin.stier@ub.uni-tuebingen.de List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:12:56 -0000 Hello everyone, I try to compile packages for older i386 on an amd64 machine. On the amd64 I use a chroot into an i386-world. I then compile ports using make ARCH=i386 TARGET_ARCH=i386 BATCH=yes install There are some ports where this doesn't work. Here's the list I found: dns/adns lang/lua graphics/pho graphics/xzgv devel/cvsps They all exit with the same error: cc: i386: No such file or directory Is this behaviour intended? Kind regards, Benjamin From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 13:53:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A44D106566C for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5E88FC08 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.4/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id p8GDqi8b067038 ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:52:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 164 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18CD2054D; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:53:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id 9F8864B23; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:53:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:53:20 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: Oliver Fromme , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20110916135320.GA44499@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 4E7354D2.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4E7354D2.000/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ Cc: Subject: Re: Detecting dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:53:24 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: That's what a script of mine does (it's also in Python): http://www.secnetix.de/olli/scripts/pkg_dep_view Waooh! this is very cute. While we are in python i have something which draws graphviz dependency graphs for ports here http://www.lpthe.jussieu.fr/~talon/pkg_check.py Unfortunately for many ports the diagram becomes completely unreadable. Your display is wonderful. Seeing things like your script, the perl script port-easy by des, etc. i really wonder why people write stuff in C or worse shell for ports. One could write ten times smarter and ten times shorter things in real languages like python, lisp, etc. This argument of being "included in base system" is so completely bogus ... -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 15:52:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0236106564A for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12B988FC12 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:51:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Sep 2011 15:51:58 -0000 Received: from f055197070.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO mandree.no-ip.org) [78.55.197.70] by mail.gmx.net (mp072) with SMTP; 16 Sep 2011 17:51:58 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX198wrs6lc984l55P42bwX2a7jFLxrOnUdKrzCyzGp OWp02GmJshA8vd Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB7923CE2B; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:51:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E73709D.5020004@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:51:57 +0200 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Mnenhy/0.8.3 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lev@FreeBSD.org, ports-list freebsd References: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> <4E725782.3090107@gmx.de> <46157122.20110916135126@serebryakov.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <46157122.20110916135126@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? (was: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:52:00 -0000 Am 16.09.2011 11:51, schrieb Lev Serebryakov: > Hello, Freebsd-ports. > You wrote 16 я│п╣п╫я┌я▐п╠я─я▐ 2011 пЁ., 0:28:07: > >>> Really? I thought it was supposed to be standard behaviour- the @stopdaemon >>> line in pkg-plist facilitates that. > >> While I totally understand why we do this, I have to say it's VERY >> VERY annoying behavior especially when one upgrading a remote system >> with multiple server daemon ports. One have to watch the whole >> process carefully and restart the daemon manually. > Yep, and even more annoyingly is that it is completely inconsistent: > some daemons are stopped, some not, etc. We do not currently have a standard procedure for that, nor do we record the necessary state -- perhaps we should just discuss, vote, and add a paragraph to the porter's handbook. We also need to bring the authors (or volunteers) for the de-facto standard upgrade tools into the loop. My thoughts: - give the user a choice to configure whether to restart services - optional: give the users a chance to configure this per-service - discuss whether we want/need to support this (a) in the framework that we currently use, (b) only in pkgng, (c) in portmaster and portupgrade where necessary. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 15:56:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF7E1065675 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ganael.laplanche@martymac.org) Received: from data.galacsys.net (webmail.galacsys.net [217.24.81.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83018FC13 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from martymac.org (webmail.galacsys.net [217.24.81.215]) by data.galacsys.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C590117157E for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:56:28 +0200 (CEST) From: "Ganael LAPLANCHE" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Openwebmail-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:56:28 +0200 Message-Id: <20110916154814.M78918@martymac.org> In-Reply-To: <20110825062023.M95435@martymac.org> References: <201107191338.21577.ganael.laplanche@martymac.org> <20110825062023.M95435@martymac.org> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.01 20030425 X-OriginatingIP: 88.163.147.236 (ganael.laplanche@martymac.org) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:56:28 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [CFT] Dolphin-emu preliminary port X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:56:30 -0000 On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 08:27:05 +0200 (CEST), Ganael LAPLANCHE wrote Hi everyone, > The port has been updated : Dolphin now builds and run on > amd64 (the MAP_FIXED hack now works). A new version of the port is available, following the integration of several patches into the main branch. I think the port has now reached enough quality to hit the tree : - NLS can be disabled - Options are provided tu enable/disable PortAudio and PulseAudio (OpenAL is used by default). You can try it here : http://contribs.martymac.org/FreeBSD-ports/sandbox/dolphin-emu-3.0.r20110912-port.tgz And follow the thread on Dolphin forums : http://forums.dolphin-emulator.com/showthread.php?tid=8254 > OpenGL still needs testing : does it work on your box ? I > would be happy to get comments on that. Yes, I'd be glad to get feedback on OpenGL rendering (for those who have support for the GL_EXT_framebufer_object, otherwise, it'll just crash). I've still only been able to test software rendering... Don't hesitate to contact me if you need more info or if you can test the software. Best regards, -- Ganael LAPLANCHE http://www.martymac.org | http://contribs.martymac.org FreeBSD: martymac , http://www.FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 16:07:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D8B1065676 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D69E8FC18 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8GG70Ti072998; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:07:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p8GG70Fw072996; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:07:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <201109161607.p8GG70Fw072996@lurza.secnetix.de> To: talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr (Michel Talon) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:07:00 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20110916135320.GA44499@lpthe.jussieu.fr> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.5 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:07:16 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Detecting dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:07:17 -0000 Michel Talon wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > That's what a script of mine does (it's also in Python): > > > > http://www.secnetix.de/olli/scripts/pkg_dep_view > > Waooh! this is very cute. > > While we are in python i have something which draws > graphviz dependency graphs for ports here > http://www.lpthe.jussieu.fr/~talon/pkg_check.py Very nice! Your script seems to do several jobs at once, while I have separate scripts for those tasks. E.g. I have a separate script for checking origins and the consistency of dependencies. > Seeing things like your script, the perl script port-easy by des, etc. > i really wonder why people write stuff in C or worse shell for ports. > One could write ten times smarter and ten times shorter things in real > languages like python, lisp, etc. This argument of being "included in > base system" is so completely bogus ... I think "high-level" languages like Python are very well suited for managing data structures like dependency graphs. These structures are native to the language, so reading the +REQUIRED_BY files into a tree structure is absolutely trivial and requires just a few lines, wereas in C it gets a lot more complicated and a lot more error-prone. In Python you don't have to care about pointers and memory allocation (the same is true for Ruby, Perl and others, of course, but I think that Perl's syntax is horrible). As for "it's not in the base system": I don't care much. The Python port is easy enough to install, and in fact it's installed on most machines anyway because quite a lot of ports depend on it. Actually, some of my scripts that deal with package began as awk scripts, precisely for the reason that it's in the base system. But while awk supports dynamic arrays and associative arrays, it doesn't support nesting them, so you can't directly make a tree-like structure (well, you can, but it gets ugly very quickly). So I started porting them to my favourite scripting language, which is Python. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, GeschДftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht MЭn- chen, HRB 125758, GeschДftsfЭhrer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Being really good at C++ is like being really good at using rocks to sharpen sticks." -- Thant Tessman From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 16:56:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF768106566C for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f45.google.com (mail-vw0-f45.google.com [209.85.212.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BC78FC17 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws17 with SMTP id 17so8695313vws.18 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:56:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9GkeSupg+fkJ1rEkvE+25DfH1H28Ji/AzZqYZbiJvKE=; b=fdnyOQs9ps2YcIhif32cDes5miPK4dMiJkvIektTqtFyKXEZ7AEI0jEqYU8G5YEoPl IcDmH2JB3cJE38EVYLlJAS3e8M1KCdAf6XfgziEHyl5lNmjtO0qGjrXnnagVBuElT/SM KWJRIf9MwS5LMVTY1xh+IDlgiQoQp6XvZFQV8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.38.199 with SMTP id c7mr717260vce.37.1316192215714; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.198.130 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:56:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:56:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: Freddie Cash To: etherforet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: ports@freebsd.org, srn@k66.ru Subject: Re: freevrrpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:56:56 -0000 Yes, the interface needs an IP configured on it, and both boxes need to be on the same subnet. However, the "real" IP doesn't have to be a routable IP, nor does it even have to be in the same subnet as the virtual IP. The "real" IP is just used for sending out the VRRP broadcasts and pings and whatnot to determine which host is up, which is master, when a host fails, etc. On a test box, I've assigned all of the "real" IPs into 172.20.xxx.0/24 subnets (non-routable, RFC1918 addresses), where xxx is the same as the vlan tag for the interface (it's a vlan routing box). And then the "virtual"/shared IPs are live, routable IPs. So far, everything is working correctly. It's really no different from the 0.9 setup. On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:49 AM, etherforet wrote: > Hi,all. > > for OLD FreeVRRPd 0.9x,settings example. > -- > box1: / etc / rc.conf > ifconfig_em0 = "inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > box1: / usr / local / etc / freevrrpd.conf > [VRID] > serverid = 1 > interface = em0 > carriertimeout = 10 > spanningtreelatency = 0 > priority = 200 > addr = 192.168.0.1/24 > monitoredcircuits = yes > MCClearErrorsCount = 3600 > masterscript = / usr / local / bin / master_script.sh > backupscript = / usr / local / bin / backup_script.sh > password = vrid1 > > - > > box2: / etc / rc.conf > ifconfig_em0 = "inet 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > box2: / usr / local / etc / freevrrpd.conf > [VRID] > serverid = 1 > interface = em0 > carriertimeout = 10 > spanningtreelatency = 0 > priority = 100 > addr = 192.168.0.1/24 > monitoredcircuits = yes > MCClearErrorsCount = 3600 > masterscript = / usr / local / bin / master_script.sh > backupscript = / usr / local / bin / backup_script.sh > password = vrid1 > > -- > Can be set for the segment were the same. > > However, NEWer FreeVRRPd 1.0 is A real IP and you need to set up to > another segment. > # bug? > > For example, > IP assigned to the real card of real IP > / etc / rc.conf > ifconfig_em0 = "inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > Virtual IP assigned to the virtual card (assign ngether0: or n > / usr / local / etc / freevrrpd.conf > [VRID] > serverid = 1 > interface = em0 > carriertimeout = 10 > spanningtreelatency = 0 > priority = 200 > addr = 192.168.1.1/24 > monitoredcircuits = yes > MCClearErrorsCount = 3600 > masterscript = / usr / local / bin / master_script.sh > backupscript = / usr / local / bin / backup_script.sh > password = vrid1 > > Needs to be set like this. > When using a local router is not a problem, would be a little trouble > setting the scene for small segment of GLOBAL edge router. > # I need 0.9x ;) > > 2011/8/26 : > > Hello, my name is Mihail Suhorosov, Im from Russia and I use you port for > > FreeBSD freevrrpd.(My BSD version is 8.2) > > > > I have some problem. I can't start this programm. My config is: > > [VRID] > > serverid = 1 > > interface = re0 > > priority = 255 > > addr = 10.50.40.8/32 > > #masterscript = /usr/local/bin/master_script.sh > > #backupscript = /usr/local/bin/backup_script.sh > > #password = vrid1 > > > > After start I see in log: > > Aug 26 17:31:52 tim freevrrpd[1687]: launching daemon in background mode > > Aug 26 17:31:52 tim freevrrpd[1688]: initializing threads and all VRID > > Aug 26 17:31:52 tim freevrrpd[1688]: reading configuration file > > /usr/local/etc/freevrrpd.conf > > Aug 26 17:31:52 tim freevrrpd[1688]: cannot create a bridge device: No > such > > file or directory > > Aug 26 17:31:52 tim freevrrpd[1688]: aborting... > > > > So i think it cant connetct to interface. But why i dont know.... > > In my netcard i have alias 10.50.40.8 > > > > Please help my)) > > > > Bets whishes, > > Suhorosov Mihail. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Freddie Cash fjwcash@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 16:58:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F0A106564A for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdlists-ports@chillibear.com) Received: from mail.sundive.org (mail.sundive.org [212.13.197.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0598FC16 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.185.209.80] (helo=[192.168.0.44]) by sundive.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1R4b89-00030P-5W; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:19:19 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.30.0.110427 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:17:33 +0100 From: Eric To: Matthias Andree , , ports-list freebsd Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? (was: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).) Thread-Index: Acx0jCOxwD8l064UtEGWrsNmBfm4tQ== In-Reply-To: <4E73709D.5020004@gmx.de> X-Priority: 4 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam: No X-bounce-key: sundive.org-1; freebsdlists-ports@chillibear.com; 1316192404; e152d022; Cc: Subject: Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? (was: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:58:31 -0000 > We do not currently have a standard procedure for that, nor do we record > the necessary state -- perhaps we should just discuss, vote, and add a > paragraph to the porter's handbook. > > We also need to bring the authors (or volunteers) for the de-facto > standard upgrade tools into the loop. > > My thoughts: > > - give the user a choice to configure whether to restart services > > - optional: give the users a chance to configure this per-service > > - discuss whether we want/need to support this (a) in the framework that > we currently use, (b) only in pkgng, (c) in portmaster and portupgrade > where necessary. Just for ref regarding (c) on the portupgrade wiki page[1] it mentions using AFTERINSTALL in pkgtools.conf for doing automatic stop/start/restart. [1] http://wiki.freebsd.org/portupgrade From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 18:18:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA49106564A; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lukasz@wasikowski.net) Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net (bijou.wasikowski.net [IPv6:2001:808:10f::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6AD8FC0C; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bijou.wasikowski.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBF95C06F; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:18:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wasikowski.net Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net ([127.0.0.1]) by bijou.wasikowski.net (bijou.wasikowski.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3NHM3k_QNdgo; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:18:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.168.2] (leeloo.unixgroup.pl [62.121.126.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bijou.wasikowski.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B63415C063; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:18:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E7392D6.4060309@wasikowski.net> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:17:58 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?xYF1a2FzeiBXxIVzaWtvd3NraQ==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Matthias Andree , ports-list freebsd , lev@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? (was: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:18:09 -0000 W dniu 2011-09-16 18:17, Eric pisze: > Just for ref regarding (c) on the portupgrade wiki page[1] it mentions using > AFTERINSTALL in pkgtools.conf for doing automatic stop/start/restart. I'm using it for a long time on my personal box and it's not that great. After some updates there is need to prepare the daemon - adjust configuration for example. Automatic restart will do much harm in that case. Another example: update when there's apache and php in new versions, system has also eaccelerator and some pecl's installed. If php was updated before apache, then apache restart via AFTERINSTALL will leave you with not working www server (because eaccelerator and pecl's were not recompiled). Updating ports should never turn off or restart service - thats my $0.02. -- best regards, Lukasz Wasikowski From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 18:25:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EC8106564A; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84308FC0C; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadk27 with SMTP id k27so4179775iad.13 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:25:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aLXQpnXEx5/83U110ck3z3JJjxFHGXkzqqFuPoWuyCs=; b=fYORaBHvHLH7RBvaEk29hZeOm1R00EEOCQ7aT1KZgYbl2NJzH/X4wfx+ajqhKj7kZu Lt9XX1WKi+ZJQiU0wOHeOLGuMB47xC1Yah6rHiLjnjCXOOpSRuCyv+U/1cCBtqdxIi93 h97+gsBOXcU8cNutf9xwvAqakw1TqKKYrQubk= Received: by 10.231.64.83 with SMTP id d19mr4463757ibi.8.1316197540156; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:25:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.35.194 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:25:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E7392D6.4060309@wasikowski.net> References: <4E7392D6.4060309@wasikowski.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:25:10 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xf9QGgCXawXCgYKpPVTy2-Fcisk Message-ID: To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=A3ukasz_W=B1sikowski?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: lev@freebsd.org, Matthias Andree , Eric , ports-list freebsd Subject: Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? (was: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:25:41 -0000 2011/9/16 =A3ukasz W=B1sikowski : > W dniu 2011-09-16 18:17, Eric pisze: > >> Just for ref regarding (c) on the portupgrade wiki page[1] it mentions u= sing >> AFTERINSTALL in pkgtools.conf for doing automatic stop/start/restart. > > I'm using it for a long time on my personal box and it's not that great. > After some updates there is need to prepare the daemon - adjust > configuration for example. Automatic restart will do much harm in that > case. Another example: update when there's apache and php in new > versions, system has also eaccelerator and some pecl's installed. If php > was updated before apache, then apache restart via AFTERINSTALL will > leave you with not working www server (because eaccelerator and pecl's > were not recompiled). Updating ports should never turn off or restart > service - thats my $0.02. > I had a thought about implementing this in bsd.port.mk, but to tell the truth it would be better handled by your port manager of choice-- I can't find an option for portmaster, but I bet someone willing to send a working patch to dougb can earn themselves some brownie points. I would do it myself, but meh.... it doesn't upset me that much. However, having services not restarted after an upgrade can leave you with a) a vulnerable older service and b) a nasty shock when you decide to reboot six months later and it breaks :) Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 18:34:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503011065673 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:34:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C7B8FC1A for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:f803:edca:622b:8392]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EC3244AC2D; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:34:25 +0400 (MSD) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:34:15 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <193113479.20110916223415@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: =?utf-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz_W=C4=85sikowski?= In-Reply-To: <4E7392D6.4060309@wasikowski.net> References: <4E7392D6.4060309@wasikowski.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Matthias Andree , Eric , ports-list freebsd Subject: Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? (was: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:34:28 -0000 Hello, =C5=81ukasz. You wrote 16 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8F=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2011 =D0=B3.,= 22:17:58: > were not recompiled). Updating ports should never turn off or restart > service - thats my $0.02. I agree with that. It is not difficult to REstart service by hands. But stopping service is another story. Many ports/packages stop service on dinstall/pkg_delete, and as result, if port with service are upgraded in the middle of large upgrade session (and it is not always possible to upgrade services SEPARATELY, due to dependences), here is large window when old service is stopped, but new cannot be started yet. --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 18:41:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DB3106568F for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46EE8FC15 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadk27 with SMTP id k27so4199492iad.13 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:41:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=KnT2aAFPWnCArPXTXmg68oXLAIG+GxQsu1q03/hW79Q=; b=WEZ4hgXuKkLRLiUogVL2oxk+1TFLXRpp+wAXzb63PMqFhD7yL70WIwfxeuzFDWFX4n LQgRZ9E1YhHx1n1C/Gi7vk9z9QHkI7LloKxa1LOQ4DXh4cM/WH8pNfN8k1LpCWwFitdn N7StbGjzFsxFEyjbe/jlwRx5pwXUvHugIgzYU= Received: by 10.231.65.73 with SMTP id h9mr4530834ibi.21.1316198492292; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:41:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.35.194 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:41:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110916124728.GA36564@schu.ub.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <20110916124728.GA36564@schu.ub.uni-tuebingen.de> From: Chris Rees Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:41:02 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: QjEL0qfr295gi1ojCFvAeyD7z-M Message-ID: To: benjamin.stier@ub.uni-tuebingen.de, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: Compilation impossible using TARGET_ARCH=i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:41:33 -0000 On 16 September 2011 13:47, Benjamin Stier wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I try to compile packages for older i386 on an amd64 machine. On the amd64 I > use a chroot into an i386-world. I then compile ports using > make ARCH=i386 TARGET_ARCH=i386 BATCH=yes install > > There are some ports where this doesn't work. Here's the list I found: > dns/adns > lang/lua > graphics/pho > graphics/xzgv > devel/cvsps > Drop the TARGET_ARCH. Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 19:37:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4C5106566C; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lukasz@wasikowski.net) Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net (bijou.wasikowski.net [IPv6:2001:808:10f::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879638FC08; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bijou.wasikowski.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BE65C063; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:37:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wasikowski.net Received: from bijou.wasikowski.net ([127.0.0.1]) by bijou.wasikowski.net (bijou.wasikowski.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qBgmiAw0kFRc; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:37:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.168.2] (leeloo.unixgroup.pl [62.121.126.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bijou.wasikowski.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ADB8D5C061; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:37:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E73A581.7040500@wasikowski.net> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:37:37 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=A3ukasz_W=B1sikowski?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Rees References: <4E7392D6.4060309@wasikowski.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Matthias Andree , lev@freebsd.org, Eric , ports-list freebsd Subject: Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? (was: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:37:45 -0000 W dniu 2011-09-16 20:25, Chris Rees pisze: > However, having services not restarted after an upgrade can leave you > with a) a vulnerable older service and b) a nasty shock when you > decide to reboot six months later and it breaks :) I know that I should restart service after update and I will do it, I promise :) But I like to do it when I'm prepared for it, not when monitoring system starts screaming about a down service ;) -- best regards, Lukasz Wasikowski From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 19:42:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5958D106564A; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:42:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [94.124.105.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A128FC0A; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9424528424; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:42:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (ip-86-49-61-235.net.upcbroadband.cz [86.49.61.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EFF7328423; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:41:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E73A681.6020909@quip.cz> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:41:53 +0200 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lev@FreeBSD.org References: <4E7392D6.4060309@wasikowski.net> <193113479.20110916223415@serebryakov.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <193113479.20110916223415@serebryakov.spb.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Eric , Matthias Andree , =?UTF-8?B?xYF1a2FzeiBXxIVzaWtvd3NraQ==?= , ports-list freebsd Subject: Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? (was: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:42:09 -0000 Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, е│ukasz. > You wrote 16 я│п╣п╫я┌я▐п╠я─я▐ 2011 пЁ., 22:17:58: > >> were not recompiled). Updating ports should never turn off or restart >> service - thats my $0.02. > I agree with that. It is not difficult to REstart service by hands. > > But stopping service is another story. Many ports/packages stop > service on dinstall/pkg_delete, and as result, if port with service > are upgraded in the middle of large upgrade session (and it is not > always possible to upgrade services SEPARATELY, due to dependences), > here is large window when old service is stopped, but new cannot be > started yet. From my point of view, it is better to not stop the service by deinstall phase, if it is not started by install. If I do portmaster -a, deinstall of MySQL stops the mysql daemon and all dependent services are unavailable for a very long time - until all other packages are upgraded and administrator starts MySQL by hand. It can be hours. But I like the idea based on portupgrade AFTERINSTALL / (AFTERUPGRADE) - some kind of custom hooks, where user can define actions for specific packages / services. It can be restart in some cases, or write something to log, or send an e-mail, or print some user defined warning text about dependencies needed to be upgraded / restarted... and so on. Miroslav Lachman From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 20:15:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463231065675 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:15:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4838FC08 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:15:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.mypc.hu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACC614E5F75; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:00:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at server.mypc.hu Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DC1KjRDO0ZXj; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:00:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.106] (catv-80-98-232-12.catv.broadband.hu [80.98.232.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5D3B214E5F4E; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:00:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E73AADB.8060804@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:00:27 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:9.0a1) Gecko/20110904 Thunderbird/9.0a1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Andree References: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> <4E725782.3090107@gmx.de> <46157122.20110916135126@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E73709D.5020004@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4E73709D.5020004@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: lev@FreeBSD.org, ports-list freebsd Subject: Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:15:50 -0000 On 2011.09.16. 17:51, Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 16.09.2011 11:51, schrieb Lev Serebryakov: >> Hello, Freebsd-ports. >> You wrote 16 я│п╣п╫я┌я▐п╠я─я▐ 2011 пЁ., 0:28:07: >> >>>> Really? I thought it was supposed to be standard behaviour- the @stopdaemon >>>> line in pkg-plist facilitates that. >>> While I totally understand why we do this, I have to say it's VERY >>> VERY annoying behavior especially when one upgrading a remote system >>> with multiple server daemon ports. One have to watch the whole >>> process carefully and restart the daemon manually. >> Yep, and even more annoyingly is that it is completely inconsistent: >> some daemons are stopped, some not, etc. > We do not currently have a standard procedure for that, nor do we record > the necessary state -- perhaps we should just discuss, vote, and add a > paragraph to the porter's handbook. > > We also need to bring the authors (or volunteers) for the de-facto > standard upgrade tools into the loop. > > My thoughts: > > - give the user a choice to configure whether to restart services > > - optional: give the users a chance to configure this per-service > > - discuss whether we want/need to support this (a) in the framework that > we currently use, (b) only in pkgng, (c) in portmaster and portupgrade > where necessary. Or we could have a facility to check whether services are running. For example, I have some cron scripts, which are similar for all of the services that I'm watching. They run periodically and restart services if they are down. It does not matter if they are down because of an upgrade or a failure, so this solution is more general. Here's an example that I have for MySQL: #!/bin/sh PID_FILE="/var/db/mysql/server.mypc.hu.pid" PID=`cat $PID_FILE` EXECUTABLE="/usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server start" if test -r $PID_FILE ; then # pidfile exist, is it correct? if kill -CHLD $PID >/dev/null 2>&1; then # ok, exit silently exit 0 fi rm -f $PID_FILE fi echo "" echo "Couldn't find the MySQL server running, retsarting.." echo "" $EXECUTABLE Gabor From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 20:23:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFB2106566C for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:23:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAB88FC0A for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.96]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D75B16B512 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:23:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:23:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:23:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.6dollardialup To: freebsd-ports Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: KDE4 - Hellhole of conflicts X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:23:44 -0000 Just saying. No really, what to do about the kdelibs4 kdebase4-runtime conflict? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 20:31:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37DC106567F; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:31:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) Received: from EXHUB015-4.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-4.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54EA8FC24; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:31:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from philip.hq.rws (174.79.184.239) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.254.0; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:21:07 -0700 Message-ID: <4E73AFB1.2080406@p6m7g8.com> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:21:05 +0000 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: P6M7G8 Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20110507 Thunderbird/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabor Kovesdan References: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> <4E725782.3090107@gmx.de> <46157122.20110916135126@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E73709D.5020004@gmx.de> <4E73AADB.8060804@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4E73AADB.8060804@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Matthias Andree , lev@freebsd.org, freebsd , ports-list Subject: Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:31:13 -0000 On 09/16/11 20:00, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > #!/bin/sh > PID_FILE="/var/db/mysql/server.mypc.hu.pid" > PID=`cat $PID_FILE` > EXECUTABLE="/usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server start" > > if test -r $PID_FILE ; then > # pidfile exist, is it correct? > if kill -CHLD $PID >/dev/null 2>&1; then > # ok, exit silently > exit 0 > fi > rm -f $PID_FILE > fi > echo "" > echo "Couldn't find the MySQL server running, retsarting.." > echo "" > $EXECUTABLE #!/bin/sh PIDS=$(/usr/bin/pgrep rsyslogd) if [ $? -eq 1 ]; then /usr/bin/killall rsyslogd 2>/dev/null /usr/local/etc/rc.d/rsyslogd start >/dev/null else exit 1 fi exit 0 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1024D/DB9B8C1C B90B FBC3 A3A1 C71A 8E70 3F8C 75B8 8FFB DB9B 8C1C Philip M. Gollucci (pgollucci@p6m7g8.com) c: 703.336.9354 VP Infrastructure, Apache Software Foundation Committer, FreeBSD Foundation Consultant, P6M7G8 Inc. Director Operations, Ridecharge Inc. Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 20:34:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14CAB106566C; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932C68FC16; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:34:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so4464524gxk.13 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:34:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=D2FkY7N0inXvJk4QibsOWluhIsxQRMU6wjJUa/O8N6M=; b=chWxHilTltFBWbcwp0fyxKWenAn76REJBi4VpoF6qqFi6xFjj82+9mdwyij7w++OS9 eqG4ZdL/DPxqLqazhcg64eO9l8pHy2qTWAeOsJazRY8OkwYMmKhPuq0lse1XSM3nUCGV tOO9sDZbB3s2uroKGwNBowXKmdxB94XMuzlE8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.29.68 with SMTP id q4mr3445391icc.99.1316205297769; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.35.194 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.35.194 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:34:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E73AADB.8060804@FreeBSD.org> References: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> <4E725782.3090107@gmx.de> <46157122.20110916135126@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E73709D.5020004@gmx.de> <4E73AADB.8060804@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:34:57 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Gabor Kovesdan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Matthias Andree , lev@freebsd.org, ports-list freebsd Subject: Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:34:59 -0000 On 16 Sep 2011 21:16, "Gabor Kovesdan" wrote: > > On 2011.09.16. 17:51, Matthias Andree wrote: >> >> Am 16.09.2011 11:51, schrieb Lev Serebryakov: >>> >>> Hello, Freebsd-ports. >>> You wrote 16 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8F=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2011 =D0= =B3., 0:28:07: >>> >>>>> Really? I thought it was supposed to be standard behaviour- the @stopdaemon >>>>> line in pkg-plist facilitates that. >>>> >>>> While I totally understand why we do this, I have to say it's VERY >>>> VERY annoying behavior especially when one upgrading a remote system >>>> with multiple server daemon ports. One have to watch the whole >>>> process carefully and restart the daemon manually. >>> >>> Yep, and even more annoyingly is that it is completely inconsistent: >>> some daemons are stopped, some not, etc. >> >> We do not currently have a standard procedure for that, nor do we record >> the necessary state -- perhaps we should just discuss, vote, and add a >> paragraph to the porter's handbook. >> >> We also need to bring the authors (or volunteers) for the de-facto >> standard upgrade tools into the loop. >> >> My thoughts: >> >> - give the user a choice to configure whether to restart services >> >> - optional: give the users a chance to configure this per-service >> >> - discuss whether we want/need to support this (a) in the framework that >> we currently use, (b) only in pkgng, (c) in portmaster and portupgrade >> where necessary. > > Or we could have a facility to check whether services are running. For example, I have some cron scripts, which are similar for all of the service= s that I'm watching. They run periodically and restart services if they are down. It does not matter if they are down because of an upgrade or a failure, so this solution is more general. Here's an example that I have fo= r MySQL: > > #!/bin/sh > PID_FILE=3D"/var/db/mysql/server.mypc.hu.pid" > PID=3D`cat $PID_FILE` > EXECUTABLE=3D"/usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server start" > > if test -r $PID_FILE ; then > # pidfile exist, is it correct? > if kill -CHLD $PID >/dev/null 2>&1; then > # ok, exit silently > exit 0 > fi > rm -f $PID_FILE > fi > echo "" > echo "Couldn't find the MySQL server running, retsarting.." > echo "" > $EXECUTABLE > I would prefer to parse the output of rc status, but I presume this script is more specialised. Chris From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 16 21:54:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73336106566C for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from villa.alberto@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f172.google.com (mail-wy0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3CB8FC15 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg24 with SMTP id 24so5570773wyg.17 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:54:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VjpcXqEEQOA5na/PbIbP56M5h06h8uQDwGmPehdulrg=; b=QfmjMPPg+QoGlS0OlzRvzBnh+jZ3g629aTvmD0znybSNQyf5irXUz/DeuL5+lr5ALe Xls68F2NAhV9H1D+vg1lGjWHpKJp55EP8bYiuHtlzJS+MikfBRDIWobfI7mJwc0sXlRa 5ZtxUHQ/LL+TPFArwEiXUN1K01sKyKTn8LBVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.136.21 with SMTP id p21mr2472695wbt.22.1316210054917; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: villa.alberto@gmail.com Received: by 10.227.9.92 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:54:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:54:14 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bvoHkXs-R6KMe8bZJfsqLDTGj-k Message-ID: From: Alberto Villa To: Lars Eighner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-ports Subject: Re: KDE4 - Hellhole of conflicts X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:54:17 -0000 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Lars Eighner wrote: > Just saying. > > No really, what to do about the kdelibs4 kdebase4-runtime conflict? 1. can you please write to kde@freebsd.org? 2. can you please actually say something about the problem? -- Alberto Villa, FreeBSD committer http://people.FreeBSD.org/~avilla From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 00:37:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0AB106564A for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 00:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtp.3dresearch.com (dorabella.3dresearch.com [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394ED8FC19 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 00:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (pool-72-95-206-99.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [72.95.206.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vmail.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315EC38AA8; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:57:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fracasso.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 18A775C4D; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:57:06 -0400 From: Janos Dohanics To: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov Message-Id: <20110916195706.5491980f.web@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: <4E69E864.8040105@yandex.ru> References: <4E69E864.8040105@yandex.ru> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/158348: mail/thunderbird build error X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 00:37:20 -0000 On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:20:20 +0400 Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: > > Hi Janos, > > does this bug report still valid? Are you able to reproduce this with > current ports tree and current thunderbird versions in ports (6.0.2 > and 3.1.14)? > > -- > Regards, > Ruslan > > Tinderboxing kills... the drives. Ruslan, my apologies for the belated reply - I thought I have unsubscribed myself from the ports mailing list. However, your message is really timely... Although I have been able to build thunderbird-5.0 some time ago, when I try to upgrade to thunderbird-6.0.2, I get this error: ---> Build of mail/thunderbird started at: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:26:52 -0400 ---> Building '/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird' ===> Cleaning for thunderbird-6.0.2 ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE ===> Found saved configuration for thunderbird-6.0.2 ===> Extracting for thunderbird-6.0.2 => SHA256 Checksum OK for thunderbird-6.0.2.source.tar.bz2. ===> thunderbird-6.0.2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 - found ===> Patching for thunderbird-6.0.2 ===> thunderbird-6.0.2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 - found ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for thunderbird-6.0.2 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to mailnews/extensions/smime/build/Makefile.in.rej => Patch patch-mailnews-extensions-smime-build-Makefile-in failed to apply cleanly. => Patch(es) patch-calendar-base-src-calDateTime.cpp patch-calendar-lightning-install.rdf patch-config-autoconf.mk.in patch-configure.in patch-ipc-chromium-src-base-atomicops_internals_mutex.cc patch-ipc-chromium-src-base-file_util.h patch-ipc-chromium-src-base-file_util_linux.cc patch-ipc-chromium-src-base-file_util_posix.cc patch-ipc-chromium-src-base-platform_file_posix.cc patch-ipc-chromium-src-base-platform_thread_posix.cc patch-ipc-chromium-src-base-third_party-nspr-prcpucfg.h patch-ipc-chromium-src-build-build_config.h patch-ldap-sdks-c-sdk-ldap-libraries-libldap-Makefile.in patch-ldap-sdks-c-sdk-ldap-libraries-libprldap-Makefile.in applied cleanly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20110916-20994-g0kqdj-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=thunderbird-5.0 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=5.0 make ** Fix the problem and try again. Looking into Makefile.in.rej: *************** *** 81,87 **** $(NULL) ifndef MOZ_STATIC_MAIL_BUILD - SHARED_LIBRARY_LIBS + = ../../../base/util/$(LIB_PREFIX)msgbsutl_s.$(LIB_SUFFIX) endif ifdef MOZILLA_INTERNAL_API --- 81,87 ---- $(NULL) ifndef MOZ_STATIC_MAIL_BUILD + SHARED_LIBRARY_LIBS += ../../../base/util/$(LIB_PREFIX)msgbsutl_s.$(LIB_SUFFIX) endif ifdef MOZILLA_INTERNAL_API # uname -mrs FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 Thank you for keeping track of this, -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 03:42:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD99106564A for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 03:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lstewart@freebsd.org) Received: from lauren.room52.net (lauren.room52.net [210.50.193.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1390F8FC13 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 03:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lstewart1.loshell.room52.net (ppp59-167-184-191.static.internode.on.net [59.167.184.191]) by lauren.room52.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AD5D27E824; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:42:46 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4E741736.70207@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:42:46 +1000 From: Lawrence Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110914 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chukharev@mail.ru References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=5.0 tests=FSL_RU_URL,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lauren.room52.net Cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Detecting dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 03:42:51 -0000 On 09/15/11 07:06, chukharev@mail.ru wrote: > Hi, > > There have been a discussion about finding interdependencies of ports. > I have a relatively simple Python script for that. There is a pr > ports/160007 > to add its early version. Unfortunately, I missed a reply to it, so > there is > an issue which I have not yet addressed... > > Since that time, I added reverse dependencies with full ports tree scanning > (1 h on my 2.5GHz notebook) and saving the tree (directed graph, actually) > to a file, so that rescanning all ports tree is not needed. > > See http://code.google.com/p/porttree/ > > If there will be interest, scanning packages interdependencies could > also be added. > On a related subtopic, we also need a tool that identifies implicit dependencies not captured in the ports Makefiles. I hacked the following together earlier this year to smooth over the updating process when key libraries get bumped (e.g. the gettext update at the time I wrote the script was a nightmare). There were a tonne of ports which needed to be updated even though they didn't explicitly record a dependency on gettext. https://lauren.room52.net/hg/scripts/raw-file/tip/libdepend/libdepend.sh It's still quite rough and manually driven and is tied to portmaster at the moment, but I use it routinely after a "portmaster -ad" to check that no libs are missing dependencies. It works pretty well most of the time, but definitely needs more finessing. I share it mostly to prove the feasibility of the approach and in case anyone is curious. I haven't thought the following ideas through a great deal and welcome feedback, but I think the basic functionality/premise of this script could be integrated into the ports framework so that at package registration time, implicit deps are identified and marked in the package database. A warning could also be generated that the port is using deps not identified in the Makefile, and perhaps trigger a send-pr to the port maintainer to let them know. That way when we update ports using a tool like portmaster, it will know to update all the relevant ports and avoid leaving your system broken (yes, I'm aware of the -w switch, but I prefer not to use it as you can get into nasty situations if the compat and non-compat libs get mixed at run-time). A script like this could also be integrated/called somehow from a tool like portmaster during an update to ensure ports with implicit dependencies on another port which has been updated are identified and recompiled too so that we avoid the nasty problems that crop up with missing library dependencies. Cheers, Lawrence From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 05:48:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737891065675; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 05:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvs-src@yandex.ru) Received: from forward8.mail.yandex.net (forward8.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:202::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11A18FC28; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 05:48:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp7.mail.yandex.net (smtp7.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.55]) by forward8.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 069D4F62107; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:48:08 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1316238488; bh=oQmEXBqK367EKbWY/78rLic0TZZ9PdyHHUHNKTSoPFo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LWLBdzMrgYsJS/3iyG0hQHv6Gr5E3Tu0rSKaMoN4DGtLnfThUu7j1f3X9yVdAWtgF Jte6p0VLDJgd68FM7j0PkYDXvXNMtbrLL+fZIPn7PLJCgMaasXxmw6K1FLNS03zInR ilAh6ZEk10Ym/4KwMzU6Lu18UTkhWZsWnr1OgD7c= Received: from smtp7.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp7.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D18F815803AD; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:48:07 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1316238487; bh=oQmEXBqK367EKbWY/78rLic0TZZ9PdyHHUHNKTSoPFo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jJ70FR8xOAhir9+iZLM+v71ESNE8LgeaFk3aLM5sGN/DEfyE6gkr4TldkatIm/D+u acYyaCNc6XC2uplVdkerZdzCJPx13U6Hq2RxaCCQBeazUVyTc10ixOqFdiCmwsv2Vi UWnO1At7r14tUo1+ixf68j+9Qh11PbZEuIvPHBkg= Received: from unknown (unknown [213.138.88.133]) by smtp7.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id m6Fq8eTK-m7FqbICm; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:48:07 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Message-ID: <4E74348A.3000608@yandex.ru> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:47:54 +0400 From: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110916 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Janos Dohanics References: <4E69E864.8040105@yandex.ru> <20110916195706.5491980f.web@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: <20110916195706.5491980f.web@3dresearch.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/158348: mail/thunderbird build error X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 05:48:10 -0000 Janos Dohanics wrote on 17.09.2011 03:57: > On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:20:20 +0400 > Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: > >> >> Hi Janos, >> >> does this bug report still valid? Are you able to reproduce this with >> current ports tree and current thunderbird versions in ports (6.0.2 >> and 3.1.14)? >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Ruslan >> >> Tinderboxing kills... the drives. > > Ruslan, > > my apologies for the belated reply - I thought I have unsubscribed > myself from the ports mailing list. > > However, your message is really timely... > > Although I have been able to build thunderbird-5.0 some time ago, when > I try to upgrade to thunderbird-6.0.2, I get this error: > > ---> Build of mail/thunderbird started at: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:26:52 -0400 > ---> Building '/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird' > ===> Cleaning for thunderbird-6.0.2 > ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE > ===> Found saved configuration for thunderbird-6.0.2 > ===> Extracting for thunderbird-6.0.2 > => SHA256 Checksum OK for thunderbird-6.0.2.source.tar.bz2. > ===> thunderbird-6.0.2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 - found > ===> Patching for thunderbird-6.0.2 > ===> thunderbird-6.0.2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 - found > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for thunderbird-6.0.2 > 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to mailnews/extensions/smime/build/Makefile.in.rej > => Patch patch-mailnews-extensions-smime-build-Makefile-in failed to apply cleanly. > => Patch(es) patch-calendar-base-src-calDateTime.cpp patch-calendar-lightning-install.rdf patch-config-autoconf.mk.in patch-configure.in patch-ipc-chromium-src-base-atomicops_internals_mutex.cc patch-ipc-chromium-src-base-file_util.h patch-ipc-chromium-src-base-file_util_linux.cc patch-ipc-chromium-src-base-file_util_posix.cc patch-ipc-chromium-src-base-platform_file_posix.cc patch-ipc-chromium-src-base-platform_thread_posix.cc patch-ipc-chromium-src-base-third_party-nspr-prcpucfg.h patch-ipc-chromium-src-build-build_config.h patch-ldap-sdks-c-sdk-ldap-libraries-libldap-Makefile.in patch-ldap-sdks-c-sdk-ldap-libraries-libprldap-Makefile.in applied cleanly. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird. > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20110916-20994-g0kqdj-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=thunderbird-5.0 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=5.0 make > ** Fix the problem and try again. > > Looking into Makefile.in.rej: > > *************** > *** 81,87 **** > $(NULL) > > ifndef MOZ_STATIC_MAIL_BUILD > - SHARED_LIBRARY_LIBS + = ../../../base/util/$(LIB_PREFIX)msgbsutl_s.$(LIB_SUFFIX) > endif > > ifdef MOZILLA_INTERNAL_API > --- 81,87 ---- > $(NULL) > > ifndef MOZ_STATIC_MAIL_BUILD > + SHARED_LIBRARY_LIBS += ../../../base/util/$(LIB_PREFIX)msgbsutl_s.$(LIB_SUFFIX) > endif > > ifdef MOZILLA_INTERNAL_API > > # uname -mrs > FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 > > Thank you for keeping track of this, > Good day, Janos. Please make sure that you have latest portstree. The last revision of mail/thunderbird Makefile is # $FreeBSD: ports/mail/thunderbird/Makefile,v 1.136 2011/09/06 20:15:18 flo Exp $ And it patches correctly for me. If the port is update, go to /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird and make `make clean`, then try to portupgrade this port again. Hope this helps. Please keep bug-followup@FreeBSD.org in cc: when responding, so we can keep the current status of this problem in pr. Thanks. -- Regards, Ruslan Tinderboxing kills... the drives. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 06:02:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053E4106566B; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvs-src@yandex.ru) Received: from forward10.mail.yandex.net (forward10.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:202::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73ABC8FC13; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp9.mail.yandex.net (smtp9.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.35]) by forward10.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D382E10210FB; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:02:31 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1316239351; bh=Y4ztpbo5T2Khza5YNCer7e+hdeisE/a5E6XjyS6PKnY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=A6D1nivzbXpjfaYCtAJTJl6YLQFJGlXG4Rt+XAm2seaSObkiEBYRKlN9/mOhVOyYc vGAiCghB5vpSZhHeii4w9K21djc1hk/uUBvAuocSFKSuAiKAbwT600jsFLLrsumxf5 umrN4i/p5KWDJqIFSCcTq5wVFRdjT85ws0KiFuIg= Received: from smtp9.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp9.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id AA55515203E5; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:02:31 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1316239351; bh=Y4ztpbo5T2Khza5YNCer7e+hdeisE/a5E6XjyS6PKnY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=A6D1nivzbXpjfaYCtAJTJl6YLQFJGlXG4Rt+XAm2seaSObkiEBYRKlN9/mOhVOyYc vGAiCghB5vpSZhHeii4w9K21djc1hk/uUBvAuocSFKSuAiKAbwT600jsFLLrsumxf5 umrN4i/p5KWDJqIFSCcTq5wVFRdjT85ws0KiFuIg= Received: from unknown (unknown [213.138.88.133]) by smtp9.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id 2UAOnb19-2VA0sxe4; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:02:31 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Message-ID: <4E7437EA.2040002@yandex.ru> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:02:18 +0400 From: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110916 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Janos Dohanics References: <4E69E864.8040105@yandex.ru> <20110916195706.5491980f.web@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: <20110916195706.5491980f.web@3dresearch.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/158348: mail/thunderbird build error X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:02:34 -0000 Janos Dohanics wrote on 17.09.2011 03:57: > 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to mailnews/extensions/smime/build/Makefile.in.rej By the way, it looks like some stale patch file is a culprit: This file - patch-mailnews-extensions-smime-build-Makefile.in in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird was removed some time ago, and it should be removed automatically when updating ports tree. How do you update your ports tree? You can try to manually remove this patch and try to build again. -- Regards, Ruslan Tinderboxing kills... the drives. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 06:04:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A1D1065673; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvs-src@yandex.ru) Received: from forward7.mail.yandex.net (forward7.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:202::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53D28FC08; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp9.mail.yandex.net (smtp9.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.35]) by forward7.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 510801C1AB7; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:04:31 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1316239471; bh=AtpGeqZjiSomijHe4ewTHcgcbE1zoZjhx6ZsF+gpWVo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=c5CUC1Hm32b93YsVPFtgp/Ap46lER8iEx3LWV27p/upX4gfrI8qz1hZmoXI3GezX2 7oHBus5v1A7IQaKnAOkgDxP6lNYiUMUopnHbLBP1LpS9djR7CL/oOVoKFKzYDuOsPO 0xZ1cAyMlvLb3mVrNVRBXs+nKzboMqzuYsnRQuNU= Received: from smtp9.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp9.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 2829615203E5; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:04:31 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1316239471; bh=AtpGeqZjiSomijHe4ewTHcgcbE1zoZjhx6ZsF+gpWVo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=c5CUC1Hm32b93YsVPFtgp/Ap46lER8iEx3LWV27p/upX4gfrI8qz1hZmoXI3GezX2 7oHBus5v1A7IQaKnAOkgDxP6lNYiUMUopnHbLBP1LpS9djR7CL/oOVoKFKzYDuOsPO 0xZ1cAyMlvLb3mVrNVRBXs+nKzboMqzuYsnRQuNU= Received: from unknown (unknown [213.138.88.133]) by smtp9.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id 4UAmBl4f-4UA0PolQ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:04:30 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Message-ID: <4E743862.4050503@yandex.ru> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:04:18 +0400 From: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110916 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Janos Dohanics References: <4E69E864.8040105@yandex.ru> <20110916195706.5491980f.web@3dresearch.com> <4E7437EA.2040002@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <4E7437EA.2040002@yandex.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/158348: mail/thunderbird build error X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:04:33 -0000 Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote on 17.09.2011 10:02: > Janos Dohanics wrote on 17.09.2011 03:57: > >> 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to >> mailnews/extensions/smime/build/Makefile.in.rej > > By the way, it looks like some stale patch file is a culprit: > > This file - patch-mailnews-extensions-smime-build-Makefile.in in > /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird was removed some time ago, and it should be ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/files. Sorry (. > removed automatically when updating ports tree. How do you update your > ports tree? > > You can try to manually remove this patch and try to build again. > -- Regards, Ruslan Tinderboxing kills... the drives. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 08:09:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0493B1065672 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:09:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953078FC24 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:09:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe3 with SMTP id 3so5636568wwe.31 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 01:09:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ys5B0Tm+Kn8TG64yug6tZUMh7mlP4dcrbxsaxpeGHuk=; b=lIo5xeCLpl8qKRu9bKNcMLjkz5E10TfUBT43supcicdZQpkftShBMGF6JAA9o+z6tM hxRU+TJS8NM3E8Bhuc8RVqtXACOClvu8WlBnK4bpJC1hUSU/uyJydshwhsinW5s8C1qa NXzSuXpiI5G82oBqULsFSVoYcsF4EXq8MctHU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.176.200 with SMTP id bf8mr336376wbb.77.1316246978744; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 01:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.100.1 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 01:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 04:09:38 -0400 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Lawrence Stewart , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: Detecting dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:09:41 -0000 > On 09/15/11 07:06, chukharev at mail.ru wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There have been a discussion about finding interdependencies of ports. > > I have a relatively simple Python script for that. There is a pr > > ports/160007 > > to add its early version. Unfortunately, I missed a reply to it, so > > there is > > an issue which I have not yet addressed... > > > > Since that time, I added reverse dependencies with full ports tree scanning > > (1 h on my 2.5GHz notebook) and saving the tree (directed graph, actually) > > to a file, so that rescanning all ports tree is not needed. > > > > See http://code.google.com/p/porttree/ > > > > If there will be interest, scanning packages interdependencies could > > also be added. > > > > On a related subtopic, we also need a tool that identifies implicit > dependencies not captured in the ports Makefiles. I hacked the following > together earlier this year to smooth over the updating process when key > libraries get bumped (e.g. the gettext update at the time I wrote the > script was a nightmare). There were a tonne of ports which needed to be > updated even though they didn't explicitly record a dependency on gettext. > > https://lauren.room52.net/hg/scripts/raw-file/tip/libdepend/libdepend.sh > > It's still quite rough and manually driven and is tied to portmaster at > the moment, but I use it routinely after a "portmaster -ad" to check > that no libs are missing dependencies. It works pretty well most of the > time, but definitely needs more finessing. I share it mostly to prove > the feasibility of the approach and in case anyone is curious. What, no check to see if the libraries listed in the DT_NEEDED tags are actually needed? And no kitchen sink? ;) There are scripts in ports/Tools/scripts that were intended to perform similar tasks, although they may be rougher than your script. > > I haven't thought the following ideas through a great deal and welcome > feedback, but I think the basic functionality/premise of this script > could be integrated into the ports framework so that at package > registration time, implicit deps are identified and marked in the > package database. A warning could also be generated that the port is > using deps not identified in the Makefile, and perhaps trigger a send-pr > to the port maintainer to let them know. ... > A script like this could also be integrated/called somehow from a tool > like portmaster during an update to ensure ports with implicit > dependencies on another port which has been updated are identified and > recompiled too so that we avoid the nasty problems that crop up with > missing library dependencies. Just as in the other *_DEPENDS lists, it was a conscious policy decision, for the sake of brevity and efficiency, that if port B requires port C, and port A requires port B, then libraries from port C will not be listed in the LIB_DEPENDS of port A, even if port A links directly to those libraries. But because of recurring problems with partial port updates, this policy has been criticized. I think that the last time the matter was raised, the consensus seemed to lean toward listing all needed libraries, but the amount of work involved in, and the likely disruption arising from, refactoring all LIB_DEPENDS in the tree dissuaded anyone doing so. b. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 09:00:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A577A1065674 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 001618FC1F for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Sep 2011 09:00:33 -0000 Received: from p4FE331DE.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO rho.emma.line.org) [79.227.49.222] by mail.gmx.net (mp066) with SMTP; 17 Sep 2011 11:00:33 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX194enFTBDZ4ymA5BFCKlmUuhrJMpYdQHFJIyh8Bvp qdPRFHQ42DRA2F Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rho.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AC533C17; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:00:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Matthias Andree To: gnome@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:00:31 +0200 Message-ID: <1316250031.79438.3.camel@rho.emma.line.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: more GDBM upgrade fallout in vinagre/gnome-settings-daemon PORTREVISION X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:00:36 -0000 Greetings, after "portsnap fetch update ; portmaster -da", I've run lib_pkgchk from bsdadminutils; and I've received these complaints: gnome-settings-daemon-2.32.1_2: /usr/local/lib/gnome-settings-daemon-2.0/libmedia-keys.so misses libgdbm.so.3 vinagre-2.30.3: /usr/local/bin/vinagre misses libgdbm.so.3 vinagre-2.30.3: /usr/local/libexec/vinagre-applet misses libgdbm.so.3 Please bump the PORTREVISION of these two ports, gnome-settings-daemon and vinagre to assist users with updates to pick up the new libgdbm.so.4. -- Matthias Andree From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 09:08:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F311065672 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E8EC8FC1B for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Sep 2011 09:08:47 -0000 Received: from p4FE331DE.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO rho.emma.line.org) [79.227.49.222] by mail.gmx.net (mp015) with SMTP; 17 Sep 2011 11:08:47 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18akTgeSlsavWnJiRmVu5jGmr7vE073SD4C1FNl6f +aJ6QCOvHwJw87 Message-ID: <4E74639E.1060207@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:08:46 +0200 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110917 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> <4E725782.3090107@gmx.de> <46157122.20110916135126@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E73709D.5020004@gmx.de> <4E73AADB.8060804@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4E73AADB.8060804@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:08:49 -0000 Am 16.09.2011 22:00, schrieb Gabor Kovesdan: > On 2011.09.16. 17:51, Matthias Andree wrote: >> Am 16.09.2011 11:51, schrieb Lev Serebryakov: >>> Hello, Freebsd-ports. >>> You wrote 16 я│п╣п╫я┌я▐п╠я─я▐ 2011 пЁ., 0:28:07: >>> >>>>> Really? I thought it was supposed to be standard behaviour- the >>>>> @stopdaemon >>>>> line in pkg-plist facilitates that. >>>> While I totally understand why we do this, I have to say it's VERY >>>> VERY annoying behavior especially when one upgrading a remote system >>>> with multiple server daemon ports. One have to watch the whole >>>> process carefully and restart the daemon manually. >>> Yep, and even more annoyingly is that it is completely inconsistent: >>> some daemons are stopped, some not, etc. >> We do not currently have a standard procedure for that, nor do we record >> the necessary state -- perhaps we should just discuss, vote, and add a >> paragraph to the porter's handbook. >> >> We also need to bring the authors (or volunteers) for the de-facto >> standard upgrade tools into the loop. >> >> My thoughts: >> >> - give the user a choice to configure whether to restart services >> >> - optional: give the users a chance to configure this per-service >> >> - discuss whether we want/need to support this (a) in the framework that >> we currently use, (b) only in pkgng, (c) in portmaster and portupgrade >> where necessary. > Or we could have a facility to check whether services are running. For > example, I have some cron scripts, which are similar for all of the > services that I'm watching. They run periodically and restart services > if they are down. It does not matter if they are down because of an > upgrade or a failure, so this solution is more general. Here's an > example that I have for MySQL: Before we go that way, we should consider using runit by Gerrit Pape (smarden.org), Upstart, or port systemd. From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 09:19:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8E5106566B for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: from erengrad.hoster.bg (erengrad.hoster.bg [77.77.142.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3188FC12 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from middenheim.hoster.bg (middenheim.hoster.bg [77.77.142.11]) by erengrad.hoster.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8444EDD09C for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:19:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from straylight.m.ringlet.net (unknown [95.111.66.80]) (Authenticated sender: roam@hoster.bg) by mail.hoster.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CBB5C27F for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:18:48 +0300 (EEST) Received: from roam (uid 1000) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) id dae01e by straylight.m.ringlet.net (DragonFly Mail Agent) Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:18:47 +0300 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:18:47 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110917091847.GA2754@straylight.m.ringlet.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> <4E725782.3090107@gmx.de> <46157122.20110916135126@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E73709D.5020004@gmx.de> <4E73AADB.8060804@FreeBSD.org> <4E74639E.1060207@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E74639E.1060207@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-MailScanner-ID: 37CBB5C27F.C2B88 X-hoster-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-hoster-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0.001, required 10, autolearn=disabled, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.00) X-hoster-MailScanner-From: roam@ringlet.net X-hoster-MailScanner-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:19:25 -0000 --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:08:46AM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 16.09.2011 22:00, schrieb Gabor Kovesdan: > >On 2011.09.16. 17:51, Matthias Andree wrote: > >>Am 16.09.2011 11:51, schrieb Lev Serebryakov: > >>>Hello, Freebsd-ports. > >>>You wrote 16 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8F=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2011 =D0= =B3., 0:28:07: > >>> > >>>>>Really? I thought it was supposed to be standard > >>>>>behaviour- the @stopdaemon > >>>>>line in pkg-plist facilitates that. > >>>>While I totally understand why we do this, I have to say it's VERY > >>>>VERY annoying behavior especially when one upgrading a remote system > >>>>with multiple server daemon ports. One have to watch the whole > >>>>process carefully and restart the daemon manually. > >>> Yep, and even more annoyingly is that it is completely inconsistent: > >>> some daemons are stopped, some not, etc. > >>We do not currently have a standard procedure for that, nor do we record > >>the necessary state -- perhaps we should just discuss, vote, and add a > >>paragraph to the porter's handbook. > >> > >>We also need to bring the authors (or volunteers) for the de-facto > >>standard upgrade tools into the loop. > >> > >>My thoughts: > >> > >>- give the user a choice to configure whether to restart services > >> > >>- optional: give the users a chance to configure this per-service > >> > >>- discuss whether we want/need to support this (a) in the framework that > >>we currently use, (b) only in pkgng, (c) in portmaster and portupgrade > >>where necessary. > >Or we could have a facility to check whether services are running. > >For example, I have some cron scripts, which are similar for all > >of the services that I'm watching. They run periodically and > >restart services if they are down. It does not matter if they are > >down because of an upgrade or a failure, so this solution is more > >general. Here's an example that I have for MySQL: >=20 >=20 > Before we go that way, we should consider using runit by Gerrit Pape > (smarden.org), Upstart, or port systemd. Or (bet you didn't expect that from a hardcore daemontools user like me ;) our own FreeBSD Services Control - http://people.FreeBSD.org/~trhodes/fsc/ (once it's ready to enter the tree) G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org peter@packetscale.com PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 because I didn't think of a good beginning of it. --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJOdGXzAAoJEGUe77AlJ98TdmoQALOdcP6BtzFq8lupWfipuoJa h8O9+E2XxJoNBMeH9TVun0Km1QVDA7ty0dWRxEHbTe7DhdAym3U+2xToN+WxEy01 iVgmN662y3iCNt0Pn9QbBr+VQF5mfmF5pIMmkrOEo36YWFlH0/OpGLj1m7dGSRkc 3FhDAX0OYJezNIBWm1+/lx7Y7MfNSKRdms7vBKE7nSDWWBxjNMzcwMUzDieH3pTT /d3G9QPqTssc/qatELM5+KsvI/X7qU3BKORQSIQqZ6Hz4PQa2CYAnb6WaxjEYHhK KkR9JdkWdCgTWBOSbY+uMCR1q7k+F/liu+k1H+YcrLAErDojFlmkl3PpAj6lRaDN KbEqJTCo8PBHr/skF4BTKaNl4fXqsmxTdW+kBDcW2iBOexewoJa9x21PdYcbsEy8 97gyKAs5MqEm2PmNaFyK3evnEbC+3XICgBdFJNGachKMNHj2q3L5W/AyqMpi/BRz feHwSXIdrVenySu5qs8TDmj/k60cSBteCNFOAZxkfTceIOx7UPkJnWRX+DKP4I5D 18u9U6+m3J4XvFX/2HyUGWBaCt+q3F+8owopu998/sUlWooMzBwtSF9ipgrK+cZ5 EitdMVamt1ci2ndtBfGCWdyFFvxCyof09pnfNm26WniGxF5qSyXN0m5qlaaVpH81 XWWWVC0zajzf4EEyzs3a =D0pY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0-- From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 21:02:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCEB1106566C for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fredports@mufley.com) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507698FC18 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:02:13 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjMJAKcCdU7Unw4R/2dsb2JhbABBhFWUUo47d4FTAQEBAQMBAQEgFRYgCxAEBxgCAhgOAgInAQkmBggHBAEHFQSHWAKkJJBTgSyEO4ERBJEzghaFHYwR Received: from outmx02.plus.net ([212.159.14.17]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 17 Sep 2011 21:33:12 +0100 Received: from [80.229.149.99] (helo=secure.mufley.com) by outmx02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1R51ZX-0007H1-Gc; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:33:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:33:10 +0100 From: "Frederico Costa (Ports)" To: In-Reply-To: <4E6D3505.4010500@roorback.net> References: <4E6D3505.4010500@roorback.net> Message-ID: <15ba6f8b059d4c2bea93d46984a265ee@secure.mufley.com> X-Sender: fredports@mufley.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.5 Cc: Grzegorz Blach Subject: Re: CFT: security/openssh-portable 5.8p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:02:14 -0000 Hi there... Thanks for making this available. I have been monitoring this list, and i would help in testing this. Is there anything you want me to test in particular? I am using in both of my systems FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 and both have the base openssh 5.4p1. My plan is to upgrade to the ports version with your 5.8. Of course i will do this in my test system first and i will report any problems. Thanks once more for this work. Fred --- Frederico Costa fredports@mufley.com On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:24:05 +0200, Grzegorz Blach wrote: > After became a new maintainer of security/openssh-portable, > I updated it to 5.8p2 version. > My paches fixes several problems repoted to this port: > - ports/144597: Kerberos knob work again > - ports/150493: Port updated to (almost) recent version > - ports/160389: Port build fine on FreeBSD 9.x > - ports/156926: Suffix isn't changed with knobs > > Next problem can't be fixed: > - ports/155456: LPK patch wasn't updated upstream > > > > Current snapshot can be downloaded from: > > https://github.com/downloads/Roorback/mgk_ports/openssh-portable-5.8p2-t1.shar > > Anyone who have time and desire, please check if everything is > working > in this port and report bugs to me. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 21:06:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FEE106564A for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fredports@mufley.com) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765608FC18 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:06:39 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjMJAJsEdU7Unw4R/2dsb2JhbABBhFWUUo47d4FTAQEBAQMBAQEgFRYgGwQHGAICGA4CAicBCSYGCAcEAQcVBIdYAqQXkFGBLIQ7gREEkTOCFoUdjBE Received: from outmx02.plus.net ([212.159.14.17]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 17 Sep 2011 21:37:33 +0100 Received: from [80.229.149.99] (helo=secure.mufley.com) by outmx02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1R51dl-0007ZG-5U for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:37:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:37:31 +0100 From: "Frederico Costa (Ports)" To: In-Reply-To: <15ba6f8b059d4c2bea93d46984a265ee@secure.mufley.com> References: <4E6D3505.4010500@roorback.net> <15ba6f8b059d4c2bea93d46984a265ee@secure.mufley.com> Message-ID: <96ec8b151da8c83c4283351ebd329384@secure.mufley.com> X-Sender: fredports@mufley.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.5 Subject: Re: CFT: security/openssh-portable 5.8p2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:06:39 -0000 Hi there... Thanks for making this available. I have been monitoring this list, and i would help in testing this. Is there anything you want me to test in particular? I am using in both of my systems FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 and both have the base openssh 5.4p1. My plan is to upgrade to the ports version with your 5.8. Of course i will do this in my test system first and i will report any problems. Thanks once more for this work. Fred --- Frederico Costa fredports@mufley.com On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:24:05 +0200, Grzegorz Blach wrote: > After became a new maintainer of security/openssh-portable, > I updated it to 5.8p2 version. > My paches fixes several problems repoted to this port: > - ports/144597: Kerberos knob work again > - ports/150493: Port updated to (almost) recent version > - ports/160389: Port build fine on FreeBSD 9.x > - ports/156926: Suffix isn't changed with knobs > > Next problem can't be fixed: > - ports/155456: LPK patch wasn't updated upstream > > > > Current snapshot can be downloaded from: > > https://github.com/downloads/Roorback/mgk_ports/openssh-portable-5.8p2-t1.shar > > Anyone who have time and desire, please check if everything is > working > in this port and report bugs to me. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 21:33:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160521065670 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@catnook.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f45.google.com (mail-vw0-f45.google.com [209.85.212.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74158FC0A for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws17 with SMTP id 17so16890651vws.18 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:33:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.95.229 with SMTP id dn5mr634869vdb.431.1316295206870; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.111.104 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.111.104 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:33:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110917091847.GA2754@straylight.m.ringlet.net> References: <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> <4E725782.3090107@gmx.de> <46157122.20110916135126@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E73709D.5020004@gmx.de> <4E73AADB.8060804@FreeBSD.org> <4E74639E.1060207@gmx.de> <20110917091847.GA2754@straylight.m.ringlet.net> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:33:26 -0700 Message-ID: From: Jos Backus To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:33:28 -0000 Doesn't fsc use pidfiles, unlike daemontools? Jos From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 21:46:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F828106566C; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ports@grosbein.pp.ru) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (unknown [IPv6:2a03:3100:c:13::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9548FC0C; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8HLkX7E026362; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:46:33 +0700 (NOVST) (envelope-from ports@grosbein.pp.ru) Message-ID: <4E751534.8070307@grosbein.pp.ru> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:46:28 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; ru-RU; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110112 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Florian Smeets References: <201109172033.p8HKXqm8056115@freefall.freebsd.org> <4E7512C1.2040400@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4E7512C1.2040400@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/160273 and ports/160272 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:46:37 -0000 18.09.2011 04:36, Florian Smeets пишет: > Hi, > > now that AquaGatekeeper2 has been removed, do we still need AquaGatekeeper? > > I'm currently usure what to do with these PRs. I don't get why AquaGatekeeper2 in spite of PR fixing it: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/160273 That was mistake and it should be revived and fixed with the patch from the PR. Eugene Grosbein From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 21:58:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6771065670; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:58:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from egrosbein@rdtc.ru) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (unknown [IPv6:2a03:3100:c:13::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610038FC08; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8HLwMnY026390; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:58:22 +0700 (NOVST) (envelope-from egrosbein@rdtc.ru) Message-ID: <4E7517F9.4070908@rdtc.ru> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:58:17 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; ru-RU; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110112 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Florian Smeets References: <201109172033.p8HKXqm8056115@freefall.freebsd.org> <4E7512C1.2040400@FreeBSD.org> <4E751534.8070307@grosbein.pp.ru> In-Reply-To: <4E751534.8070307@grosbein.pp.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/160273 and ports/160272 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:58:25 -0000 18.09.2011 04:46, Eugene Grosbein пишет: > 18.09.2011 04:36, Florian Smeets пишет: >> Hi, >> >> now that AquaGatekeeper2 has been removed, do we still need AquaGatekeeper? >> >> I'm currently usure what to do with these PRs. > > I don't get why AquaGatekeeper2 in spite of PR fixing it: I don't get why AquaGatekeeper2 has been removed. > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/160273 > > That was mistake and it should be revived and fixed with the patch from the PR. > > Eugene Grosbein From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 23:06:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B4F106566B for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c-s@c-s.li) Received: from mail.319.ch (319.ch [88.198.108.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5178FC08 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.319.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1EE18CC0A; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:06:11 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=c-s.li; s=default; t=1316300771; bh=JIDpBX9I2g9X+tVIXcTd/l6rdL2Nbny+LfQyV8ULkas=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Content-Type:Date:Message-ID:Mime-Version: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=j56q5h05Zr1ke47Up8Z0NQePrOjofJJT5EE+CTvkQMvBHxOdn1fRFlfVcONmEX92t VOvXEACBJZ3UBnn1L45UDsSQOL3Or1CcvxNxTalOUjpHhl7+ca/GSsIGpuHDMn6mod xWCCA1G5oLvt+8v49ugNLITf7DEL0DdwBMSZGCK0= Received: from mail.319.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (maia.319.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 45738-06; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:06:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (84-72-44-15.dclient.hispeed.ch [84.72.44.15]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: c-s@c-s.li) by mail.319.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 99D9418CC09; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:06:10 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=c-s.li; s=default; t=1316300770; bh=JIDpBX9I2g9X+tVIXcTd/l6rdL2Nbny+LfQyV8ULkas=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Content-Type:Date:Message-ID:Mime-Version: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OSEIAvepg5w+hFQJQHdOJN7JEjy0mJp+MuL84cGMDm0itdB2P79da8dVfXNsz/4Ba TvLAPeoMUMwjfKOjtUgdsRf4dhfMgmo1dabTmSkVGmLVUXfzChXDAeqMwiGpaKrkq9 7D4yitdHYejBlRA1EvMfob+nvaQ12lwwoIxnTOyU= From: C-S To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:06:09 +0200 Message-ID: <1316300769.6731.11.camel@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: x11@freebsd.org Subject: xorg-server setuid -- denial of service attack X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:06:14 -0000 Today, I discovered by accident that having setuid option set on xorg-server -- which is the default option -- may be dangerous. (I guess you all knew that already :-). Another logged in user "killed" my screen by typing: X :1 After turning setuid off, this denial of service attack was not possible anymore. To be honest, I was really surprised that a regular user with no special permissions can disrupt other people's x11 sessions that easily. Although, let me be precise here. It seems to be that he actually opened another X11 session (which is the idea of this command I guess). However, none of those sessions were displayed anymore on the screen. Am I missing anything in my security configuration? What do you think? Cheers, Carlo