From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 01:21:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114D3106566C for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98168FC12 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.yuri.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8I1LuaI080209 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:21:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4E7547B4.600@rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:21:56 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110909 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Why selecting text with mouse often doesn't make the text pasteable with mouse mid-button click? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:21:57 -0000 I notice this again and again: when I select some text in Konsole (KDE4) sometimes it doesn't paste with the middle mouse button click. I also notice the same in chrome, and it's even more likely there. Why such basic feature fails intermittently? 8.2-STABLE amd64 Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 03:53:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486ED106566B for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 03:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.62.230.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DC68FC0A for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 03:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WildRover.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2] (may be forged)) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA25649 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:53:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201109180353.VAA25649@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:53:05 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: ICMP redirects and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 03:53:15 -0000 Here's a networking question: Does FreeBSD generate and accept ICMP redirects? Is it controllable via tuneables? How long do routing tables generated by ICMP redirects last? --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 04:12:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B471065673 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:12:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913678FC18 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8I4CKAU038612; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 22:12:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p8I4CJ6w038609; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 22:12:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 22:12:19 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Johan Hendriks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: , <6C3F8332272B7D4DA26909F15F1C90E1E5B722@SRV01.double-l.local> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 17 Sep 2011 22:12:20 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Adam Vande More , "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: glabel, gmirror, and gpart X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:12:24 -0000 Notes on a gmirrored partitions setup written into a draft article: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/gmirror.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 04:47:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DDB106564A for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=023577d6c5=johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [64.57.183.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE1F8FC08 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26547 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2011 04:20:31 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 18 Sep 2011 04:20:31 -0000 Date: 18 Sep 2011 04:20:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20110918042009.97748.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201109180353.VAA25649@lariat.net> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: brett@lariat.net Subject: Re: ICMP redirects and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:47:13 -0000 In article <201109180353.VAA25649@lariat.net> you write: >Here's a networking question: Does FreeBSD generate and accept ICMP >redirects? Is it controllable via tuneables? How long do routing >tables generated by ICMP redirects last? See man 4 inet and man 4 route R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 05:32:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E19106564A for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 05:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@probikesllc.com) Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com [209.68.5.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FEBC8FC0C for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 05:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 43901 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2011 05:06:09 -0000 Received: from 216.151.95.152 (HELO vger.digitalfreaks.org) (216.151.95.152) by relay03.pair.com with SMTP; 18 Sep 2011 05:06:09 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 216.151.95.152 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:06:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian Seklecki (Mobile)" X-X-Sender: lavalamp@vger.digitalfreaks.org To: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <201109180353.VAA25649@lariat.net> Message-ID: References: <201109180353.VAA25649@lariat.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ICMP redirects and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 05:32:52 -0000 On Sat, 17 Sep 2011, Brett Glass wrote: > Here's a networking question: Does FreeBSD generate and accept ICMP > redirects? Is it controllable via tuneables? How long do routing tables $ sysctl -d net.inet.ip.redirect net.inet.ip.redirect: Enable sending IP redirects Accepting them sounds like the job of a userland routing daemon. Only a few unsound routing/network topology configurations really depend on redirects these days; They can't be trusted because they can't be authenticated? ~BAS > generated by ICMP redirects last? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 07:38:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73371065670 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 07:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fazaeli@sepehrs.com) Received: from sepehrs.com (sepehrs.com [213.217.59.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BB78FC12 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 07:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([192.168.3.10]) by sepehrs.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8I73VKJ044187; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:33:33 +0430 (IRDT) Message-ID: <4E7598B3.5030906@sepehrs.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:37:31 +0430 From: Hooman Fazaeli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/3.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brett Glass References: <201109180353.VAA25649@lariat.net> In-Reply-To: <201109180353.VAA25649@lariat.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ICMP redirects and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 07:38:41 -0000 Yes (optionally) controlled by the following sysctls: net.inet.ip.redirect (enable/disable sending IP redirects) net.inet.icmp.log_redirect (Log ICMP redirects to the console) net.inet.icmp.drop_redirect (Ignore/accept ICMP redirects) On 9/18/2011 8:23 AM, Brett Glass wrote: > Here's a networking question: Does FreeBSD generate and accept ICMP redirects? Is it controllable via tuneables? How long do routing tables generated by ICMP redirects last? > > --Brett Glass > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 08:04:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E7E1065670; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB428FC0C; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadk27 with SMTP id k27so6457841iad.13 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:04:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=8FHbJLaWvgw602CEMZx8UEZ79emE9THzrpBD0w/C6BM=; b=NGX0UFr5SimDq6Bx99VO0lhsXnUezd/0U3fDPwhFPiY3N9f4rt/6K9k8smn86kax+r NdErXApZ7rJ2/L2f/yI+gCOV4LLQt6HGxwEsYJ9TMJlPPjKMYMJfBvmtot1AWWb799Q0 T7aqmu35OfRnydWW7309uJPEHhgvJ4e/LQ0ho= Received: by 10.231.65.73 with SMTP id h9mr1918731ibi.21.1316333044060; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:04:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.35.194 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:03:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E751428.7040609@a1poweruser.com> References: <4E71F647.2050007@a1poweruser.com> <4E7453CB.1040908@freebsd.org> <4E74C9B7.2090901@a1poweruser.com> <4E751428.7040609@a1poweruser.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:03:34 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 23UAXJvriaXPx0Tvhos5fQ715x8 Message-ID: To: Fbsd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 9.0 bata2 & keymap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:04:05 -0000 On 17 September 2011 22:42, Fbsd8 wrote: > Chris Rees wrote: >> >> On 17 Sep 2011 17:25, "Fbsd8" wrote: >>> >>> Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 09/15/11 14:57, Fbsd8 wrote: >>>>>>> Out of the 9 USA maps only "us.iso.acc.kbd" worked somewhat. >>>>>>> The keyboard 9 key block above the arrow keys don't function. >>>>>>> Issuing the "man cmd_name" command doe's display the man page, >>>>>>> but the {Page up, Page down keys } don't work. >>>>>>> Also when using the "ee" edit command the {delete, Page up, Page down >>>>>>> keys } don't work. This does not happen in any of the previous >> >> releases. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Further more, localization of the keyboard should not be forced on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> user during the install process. This BSDinstall option should be >>>>>>> disabled or removed. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can press "Cancel" there, which will cancel keymap selection and >> >> keep the default. The utility being invoked is just kbdmap(1), and any >> changes to it need to go there. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Nathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> .. maybe name that button "skip" then? >>>>> >>>> The button is provided by kbdmap, as is the entire screen. We could add >>> >>> an "installer" mode to kbdmap that names it skip instead of cancel, of >>> course. I'm traveling for another 2 weeks and won't have time to do >>> >that, >> >> however. >>>> >>>> -Nathan >>>> >>> Nathan >>> >>> Its good to be talking directly with the bsdinstall author. >>> >>> Changing the cancel button in the kbdmap command to skip, does not >>> address >> >> the problem, which is the lack of knowledge of the standard bsdinstall >> user. >> I've been using Freebsd since 4.0 and never used the kbdmap command or for >> that matter even knew it existed. >> >> Wait, are you suggesting that everyone on Earth can "make do" with the >> "standard" keyboard layout until they learn rc.conf syntax? >> >> I would strongly object if localisation of the keyboard were not "forced >> on" >> the user; we don't all use pc105-us, and the ability to use the keyboard >> properly early on is kinda helpful. >> >> Chris >> >> > You would help yourself a great deal if you read the complete post before > jumping in. The rest of the post (ie: the part you neglected to include in > your post) clearly describes what I am suggesting. > I had read the rest of your post, and found it rather difficult to follow. The fact remains that every other installer I have ever used gives the user the choice of keymap, so I don't really understand your problem. If you're not suggesting removing localisation from bsdinstall, then please accept my apologies. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 09:04:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C42106566B; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:04:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532DD8FC0C; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:f803:edca:622b:8392]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 663FF4AC1C; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:04:26 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:04:14 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <8710192069.20110918130414@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Chris Rees In-Reply-To: References: <4E71F647.2050007@a1poweruser.com> <4E7453CB.1040908@freebsd.org> <4E74C9B7.2090901@a1poweruser.com> <4E751428.7040609@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Fbsd8 , FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.0 bata2 & keymap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:04:29 -0000 Hello, Chris. You wrote 18 =F1=E5=ED=F2=FF=E1=F0=FF 2011 =E3., 12:03:34: > I had read the rest of your post, and found it rather difficult to > follow. The fact remains that every other installer I have ever used > gives the user the choice of keymap, so I don't really understand your > problem. IMHO, main problem is, that in bsdinstall it is completely unclear how to have English keymap and other one and switch between them. For example, it is very natural to select "Russian" in Russia, but, nobody (ok, may be ALMOST nobody) in Russia want to enter Russian hostname, usernames and root password. And it is completely unobvious how to switch back to English after selecting Russian keymap. I think, other national keymaps have exactly same problem. And if Western-European ones allow to enter basic ASCII letters (and only add some diacritics, and, maybe, alert keys placement, like Z-A swap), and things like Dvorak allows it too (for sure!), but more specific national keymaps doesn't contain ASCII (Latin) letters at all. IMHO, selecting one and only one keymap without selecting at leas two of them and switching key have very limited use. It could be used to select variants of English maps (QWERTY vs Dvorak, different placement of additional characters, etc) and to select Latin-based maps with some extended characters. All other (Russian and other Cyrillic, Japan, Arabic, etc.,) need TWO keymaps right at installation time and configurable/known way to switch between them. --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 09:16:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B21106564A; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f50.google.com (mail-gw0-f50.google.com [74.125.83.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176D58FC12; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj16 with SMTP id 16so5054395gwj.37 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 02:16:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=0Tk1LV+LR19EJDhVz9islaKrM+J2bwQ53rhUemSGtyk=; b=dOiw42xUC/ZDnsV2bPbsGTPrQUQPKazuDVKLUEKX41sEkEsJ4oXP33z4gQLlEPIrxD VZIU2tjUTjes3dmJOukLr2B9kt0qqs0ZH7ot0v4Fw+eAHA32AYCymzPTNh/p289iJbYl WxpsfrPV9YqjwrSCLt5BXEr19GqzFTOFqflPI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.129.165 with SMTP id h25mr606155yhi.38.1316337384236; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 02:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.236.111.42 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 02:16:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8710192069.20110918130414@serebryakov.spb.ru> References: <4E71F647.2050007@a1poweruser.com> <4E7453CB.1040908@freebsd.org> <4E74C9B7.2090901@a1poweruser.com> <4E751428.7040609@a1poweruser.com> <8710192069.20110918130414@serebryakov.spb.ru> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:16:24 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Ys3RH7SlMTgh-FiEsb7qtUbXdVE Message-ID: From: Adrian Chadd To: lev@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Chris Rees , Fbsd8 , FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.0 bata2 & keymap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:16:25 -0000 Hi all, Just keep in mind that Nathan is currently on holiday. Please don't be disenheartened if he doesn't reply or if bsdinstaller isn't 'fixed' until then. As always, patches == best. Adrian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 09:18:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AAF61065672 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:18:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6727@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [207.115.11.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E9A8FC16 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:18:31 +0000 (GMT) X-Comment: Sending client does not conform to RFC822 minimum requirements X-Comment: Date has been added by Maillennium Received: from localhost (adsl-72-147-183-55.sdf.bellsouth.net[72.147.183.55]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20110918091830H0100n3khke>; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:18:30 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [72.147.183.55] From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110918091833.2AAF61065672@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Linux emulation with actual Linux installation? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:18:33 -0000 Is it possible, when booted into FreeBSD, to run Linux programs from an actual Linux installation, instead of the Linux-emulation ports? User would have both FreeBSD and Linux installed on hard drive, and might possibly mount -t ext2fs /dev/ /compat/linux I noticed there was a Gentoo Linux port, but one could just as well download from Gentoo mirror, or use a different Linux configuration. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 11:15:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3ED1065670; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f178.google.com (mail-wy0-f178.google.com [74.125.82.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0054D8FC19; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so5423970wyf.37 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:15:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=mnV44h0l8416mAxaYbIG6owrZC/bja7wr0s6QFlg70s=; b=e4Nzti0pmujeZd53+YvzjrHv26gGloaDKv42WOdC78IMPrU7PZupPgI3PjcAOubtcV Fqg/OTWx/n+v8PBqO2Rk3K7R3gXJK+dRCo0RQzRLkOjfX9sJQddfllJiFMk3t4YY3gpL JOzTg/iB36BzNz6nW3zbKOm9JbDOQVhZYs0sI= Received: by 10.227.41.198 with SMTP id p6mr1481080wbe.67.1316344551693; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.dg (41-132-93-69.dsl.mweb.co.za. [41.132.93.69]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ex16sm20857303wbb.4.2011.09.18.04.15.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:15:50 -0700 (PDT) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:15:56 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-BETA2; KDE/4.6.5; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1371023.dJmGH3LATA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201109181316.01708.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.28 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:15:53 -0000 --nextPart1371023.dJmGH3LATA Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.3.28 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. T= his=20 does contain XInput2 support. The sound issues appear to be resolved. If = you=20 experience any sound issues please report them to bugs.winehq.org and CC me. To date there has been 936 (+14) downloads from mediafire. nVidia uses should rerun patch-wine-nvidia.sh after updating wine. =20 Regards, David [1]=20 MD5 (freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.3.28,1.tbz) =3D 4b9beb95ff38879320b69482598a9= 6da MD5 (freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.3.28,1.txz) =3D 9f5cb96d937eeafd349965f98c543= b80 [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 --nextPart1371023.dJmGH3LATA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAk510vEACgkQUaaFgP9pFrIsmQCbB3cp4fa2MHxZGVMfCbp3sd0d sksAoIgtsvlXWStIJKCuHv2z/rp0LBO+ =2RRF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1371023.dJmGH3LATA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 12:23:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84724106564A for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:23:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FE488FC08 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2011 12:10:05 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.224] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2011 12:10:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1033.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2011 12:10:05 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 572397.55633.bm@omp1033.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 72301 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Sep 2011 12:10:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1316347805; bh=07FYB8Wd1V8TMs8LNf69FUI4EJpcD4YT094DoGmj+ww=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2rATAO6HFGZ4XmIxDBIlubIuYm/rMiAYz/4M3ABsjRtijWU+ZqwalxR1zmzpteE16lcuy85+XqIAcGmSGTAVOFK+YZomAJXSEgtbwrSCe/WhJe4ITN8GHEtzQcNVD2zLr+YCaXW+gS670KllhaswFXYltUfdaaS86qXlHvuDdcM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k0Bwm/I72gD13VH1GO6pmfuEWKDD/E3sRH/n127pHUaUq40y82Q678UaOggXo9t5ykoIQN/hsemSh30cryzLRw2pNeQ1I7Z59+pMh7/rX9poSx/RGXvt64xgE+NQ83T7rWHZqE2OkbpIJwspzxTfVVVnFLkO2TZCEPtTr02iMu4=; X-YMail-OSG: ji0e85cVM1lpAxGhI4EW5oMVMp4c0GcMfkcGmATrPOmlO_Q jN2Qa_mEMzW9OpKUbrf0R9V5XfGqskeXEeZEj2C3PrF2X2Zjbv6Qn_9vUfRe ue1uIHknR1AtpydAW6qg6Z1pbwuXzF_egGW12NjYZyFx.F_hPm9u61kjwzMV ZnE5Ijm3H4r_GpWliGpLAlGvURi3ZUydpqjaA5sNlviUhU1FYM9QlX0KbCju AVyCg6s8sb5S3iiIpBrVrjAxDbbl4zraeFW8rfS_6xmBg4IqhgNvU8egcqPh Gc.T3hGgQecOv.5XHqCm7nPQ.gwhXAjAUcW.YpPkdEL9NryT8Q_jWSPmj3JC XKbDb9mN8LLQUeeockumaYrIC0JRI_JpqOa3Ng_6ZFwapglZacux81oBgy7B TN_HWuW32UM6uTUMdlGtt0p7NOnH7SnohJXKCEtiDaSdG Received: from [112.135.175.208] by web160112.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 05:10:05 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 Message-ID: <1316347805.62034.YahooMailClassic@web160112.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 05:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Segmentation fault, _malloc_prefork () - debugging help needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:23:42 -0000 Hi all I'm developing an multi-threaded application on FreeBSD. When it is running for sometime, it develops a Segmentation fault. The ddd debugger shows following: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 296c6580 (LWP 100137)] 0x28ee390e in _malloc_prefork () from /lib/libc.so.7 How could I know the exact line in source where this issue develops? Many thanks in advance. Best regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 13:15:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DBD1065674 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132078FC15 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id p8ID5juM028005; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id p8ID5iDV028002; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:05:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:05:44 -0400 From: Thomas Dickey To: Yuri Message-ID: <20110918130544.GA27690@saltmine.radix.net> References: <4E7547B4.600@rawbw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E7547B4.600@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why selecting text with mouse often doesn't make the text pasteable with mouse mid-button click? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:15:56 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 06:21:56PM -0700, Yuri wrote: > I notice this again and again: when I select some text in Konsole (KDE4)= =20 > sometimes it doesn't paste with the middle mouse button click. Where are you pasting? (on another terminal emulator, in an application running in a terminal emulator, or within another X application)? > I also notice the same in chrome, and it's even more likely there. >=20 > Why such basic feature fails intermittently? >=20 > 8.2-STABLE amd64 >=20 > Yuri --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFOdeymtIqByHxlDocRAv+NAJ9GrkdfwQlke1ylRCCCHvrU8x0R/QCfY2Fw PW0tOeehIP9SJbXnd1j/YZ8= =Ab9U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 13:29:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD93C1065782 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D44D8FC12 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.2]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20110918132921.RBUD17426.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:29:21 +0100 Received: from [94.168.169.90] (helo=mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R5HQv-0008C6-Oz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:29:21 +0100 Received: from mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl ([::1]) by mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl ([::1]) with mapi; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:29:21 +0100 From: Graeme Dargie To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:29:20 +0100 Thread-Topic: System locking up. Thread-Index: Acx1ifXals2fokksTrCFdeVeao2FLw== Message-ID: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B52344BE4831@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=JvdXmxIgLJv2/GthKqHpGJEEHukvLcvELVXUanXFreg= c=1 sm=0 a=OMdUhd4NiskA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=aV7j-niqUELn6Ud-mJoA:9 a=6EkCrdmv52SB2o175akA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=hOlNQF-szbnUwE9608YA:7 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: System locking up. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:29:23 -0000 Hi All, I have a system that is being problematic, I suspect but I cannot say for s= ure it is maybe related to ZFS as I have a fairly large ZFS pool on the mac= hine. The system will just lock up, local console does not respond to the k= eyboard, num lock still changes the led on the keyboard, the system still r= esponds to pings but you cannot ssh to the unit. The behaviour is random th= e system can be running for 50 days plus with no issues then suddenly it en= ters this state, the error logs do not show anything. System 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0 AMD 64 Running on an AMD x2 5600 4gb of DDR2 Gmirror 80gb boot disks 6 x 1.5TB SATA II disks using AHCI Loader.conf vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=3D0 //vfs.zfs.txg.timeout=3D"5" vm.kmem_size=3D"1024M" vm.kmem_size_max=3D"1024M" vfs.zfs.arc_max=3D"100M" vfs.zfs.vdev.cache.size=3D"100M" ZFS filesystem version 4 ZFS storage pool version 15 Is this likely to be a case of just not enough ram? Or is there some other = trouble shooting I could do to try and nail down what is going on as it ten= ds to happen when the ZFS zpool is being accessed heavily. Regards Graeme From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 15:13:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E1B106566B for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5592A8FC12 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:13:35 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=BIara4x3EkZTzdUL8B3J4QG95wTllr+7QlX9X1bA1+Y=; b=SLcPP5rd1ADVA2xD76L8AvhMUF2ohrVYGQUvoqgv7rnyl12BryEjKMYzvZK8mAm9nv+wNQD1GyqhY2s5+F9N0xse0Zz+xg6sHK6oGUUGZs+2f6VeRhlvgGTJuIZtL0U1vTcYj4KV3kfarE6CRB+szWazQbuQ7lzV7O/sPJy+k9c= Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([76.240.47.196]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:13:35 -0700 Message-ID: <4E760AA1.2040709@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:13:37 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graeme Dargie References: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B52344BE4831@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> In-Reply-To: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B52344BE4831@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2011 15:13:35.0799 (UTC) FILETIME=[895EE470:01CC7615] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: System locking up. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:13:35 -0000 Graeme Dargie wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a system that is being problematic, I suspect but I cannot say for sure it is maybe related to ZFS as I have a fairly large ZFS pool on the machine. The system will just lock up, local console does not respond to the keyboard, num lock still changes the led on the keyboard, the system still responds to pings but you cannot ssh to the unit. The behaviour is random the system can be running for 50 days plus with no issues then suddenly it enters this state, the error logs do not show anything. > > System 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0 > AMD 64 > > Running on an AMD x2 5600 > 4gb of DDR2 > Gmirror 80gb boot disks > 6 x 1.5TB SATA II disks using AHCI > > > Loader.conf > > vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=0 > //vfs.zfs.txg.timeout="5" > vm.kmem_size="1024M" > vm.kmem_size_max="1024M" > vfs.zfs.arc_max="100M" > vfs.zfs.vdev.cache.size="100M" > > ZFS filesystem version 4 > ZFS storage pool version 15 > > Is this likely to be a case of just not enough ram? Or is there some other trouble shooting I could do to try and nail down what is going on as it tends to happen when the ZFS zpool is being accessed heavily. > > Regards > > Graeme > My money is on, its a over heating problem or power supply problem. Open the box to get more air circulating over the motherboard. If the problem continues them replace power supply with one that outputs more watts. You have a lot of hardware on the current power supply and under heavy demand it may not be able to fulfill the power demand the hardware requires. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 16:06:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B93106564A for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:06:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9728FC18 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:06:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.yuri.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8IG6iEd001450; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:06:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4E761714.1070308@rawbw.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:06:44 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110909 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Dickey References: <4E7547B4.600@rawbw.com> <20110918130544.GA27690@saltmine.radix.net> In-Reply-To: <20110918130544.GA27690@saltmine.radix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why selecting text with mouse often doesn't make the text pasteable with mouse mid-button click? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:06:45 -0000 On 09/18/2011 06:05, Thomas Dickey wrote: >> > I notice this again and again: when I select some text in Konsole (KDE4) >> > sometimes it doesn't paste with the middle mouse button click. > Where are you pasting? (on another terminal emulator, in an application > running in a terminal emulator, or within another X application)? > Test selected in Konsole I usually paste into Konsole. and it fails maybe in 5-10% of cases. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 17:02:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD33106564A for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@top-consulting.net) Received: from smtp3.emailarray.com (smtp3.emailarray.com [65.39.216.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41CC8FC0A for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 38253 invoked by uid 89); 18 Sep 2011 16:35:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (freebsd@top-consulting.net@192.168.1.6) (POLARISLOCAL) by smtp3.emailarray.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 18 Sep 2011 16:35:47 -0000 Received: from ns4.top-consulting.net (ns4.top-consulting.net [65.39.216.2]) by mail.top-consulting.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:35:47 -0400 Message-ID: <20110918123547.46554ywu35i5svwg@mail.top-consulting.net> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:35:47 -0400 From: freebsd@top-consulting.net To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.7) X-Originating-IP: 65.39.216.2 X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Sep 18 12:35:48 2011 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9013 X-DSPAM-Improbability: 1 in 914 chance of being spam X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 1,4e761de411845606214303 X-DSPAM-Factors: 27, 16+19, 0.01000, 16+19, 0.01000, e1, 0.01000, at+Sep, 0.01000, 8+Sep, 0.05608, 12+30, 0.05702, 12+30, 0.05702, reversal, 0.07694, reversal, 0.07694, or+invalid, 0.08015, FreeBSD, 0.09467, FreeBSD, 0.09467, ?, 0.11976, I+see, 0.12188, seems+to, 0.12905, 13+25, 0.12996, 13+25, 0.12996, just+fine, 0.13558, kernel, 0.14524, kernel, 0.14524, detected, 0.15439, see+these, 0.15578, fine, 0.15954, seems, 0.16467, (), 0.16609, appears, 0.16977, running, 0.17204 X-PolarisMail-Flags: x Cc: Subject: What are these errors ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:02:31 -0000 I am running 9.0 BETA2 and I see these errors in /var/log/messages: Sep 16 18:07:51 store2 kernel: GEOM: da1: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. Sep 16 18:07:51 store2 kernel: GEOM: da1: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: lock order reversal: Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: 1st 0xffffff80f2692c98 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:2658 Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: 2nd 0xfffffe00058a2200 dirhash (dirhash) @ /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:284 Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper() at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x2a Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: kdb_backtrace() at kdb_backtrace+0x37 Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: _witness_debugger() at _witness_debugger+0x2e Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: witness_checkorder() at witness_checkorder+0x807 Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: _sx_xlock() at _sx_xlock+0x55 Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: ufsdirhash_acquire() at ufsdirhash_acquire+0x33 Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: ufsdirhash_remove() at ufsdirhash_remove+0x16 Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: ufs_dirremove() at ufs_dirremove+0x1c3 Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: ufs_rename() at ufs_rename+0x101c Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: VOP_RENAME_APV() at VOP_RENAME_APV+0x9b Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: kern_renameat() at kern_renameat+0x4b4 Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: syscallenter() at syscallenter+0x1aa Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: syscall() at syscall+0x4c Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xdd Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: --- syscall (128, FreeBSD ELF64, rename), rip = 0x8008fee9c, rsp = 0x7fffffffa008, rbp = 0x7fffffffa4f0 --- Sep 16 19:13:27 store2 kernel: lock order reversal: Sep 16 19:13:27 store2 kernel: 1st 0xfffffe006c8b9638 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:1175 Sep 16 19:13:27 store2 kernel: 2nd 0xffffff80f2692c98 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vnops.c:260 Sep 16 19:13:27 store2 kernel: 3rd 0xfffffe006ca38bd8 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2134 Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper() at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x2a Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: kdb_backtrace() at kdb_backtrace+0x37 Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: _witness_debugger() at _witness_debugger+0x2e Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: witness_checkorder() at witness_checkorder+0x807 Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: __lockmgr_args() at __lockmgr_args+0xdc6 Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: ffs_lock() at ffs_lock+0x8c Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV() at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0x9b Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: _vn_lock() at _vn_lock+0x47 Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: vget() at vget+0x7b Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: vfs_hash_get() at vfs_hash_get+0xd5 Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: ffs_vgetf() at ffs_vgetf+0x48 Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: softdep_sync_buf() at softdep_sync_buf+0x547 Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: ffs_sy Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: ncvnode Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: () at Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: ffs_syncvnode+0x2b3 Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: ffs_fsync() at ffs_fsync+0x43 Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: ufs_rename() at ufs_rename+0xc7f Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: VOP_RENAME_APV() at VOP_RENAME_APV+0x9b Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: kern_renameat() at kern_renameat+0x4b4 Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: syscallenter() at syscallenter+0x1aa Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: syscall() at syscall+0x4c Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xdd Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: --- syscall (128, FreeBSD ELF64, rename), rip = 0x8008fee9c, rsp = 0x7fffffffa008, rbp = 0x7fffffffa4f0 --- Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: lock order reversal: Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: 1st 0xfffffe00054cc278 syncer (syncer) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:1734 Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: 2nd 0xfffffe011ebea638 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2134 Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper() at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x2a Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: kdb_backtrace() at kdb_backtrace+0x37 Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: _witness_debugger() at _witness_debugger+0x2e Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: witness_checkorder() at witness_checkorder+0x807 Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: __lockmgr_args() at __lockmgr_args+0xdc6 Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: ffs_lock() at ffs_lock+0x8c Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV() at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0x9b Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: _vn_lock() at _vn_lock+0x47 Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: vget() at vget+0x7b Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: vfs_msync() at vfs_msync+0xa5 Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: sync_fsync() at sync_fsync+0x12a Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: sync_vnode() at sync_vnode+0x157 Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: sched_sync() at sched_sync+0x1d1 Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: fork_exit() at fork_exit+0x135 Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0xe Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: --- trap 0, rip Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: = Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: 0, Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: r Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: sp Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: = Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: 0x Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: ff Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 last message repeated 2 times Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: 8 Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: 116 Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: e1 Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: fd0 Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: 0, Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: r Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: bp Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: = Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: 0 Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: -- Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: - It seems to mention da1 but my mounted da1 partition appears just fine. I copy files to/from it. gpart show da1 => 34 15519973310 da1 GPT (7.2T) 34 2014 - free - (1M) 2048 15519969280 1 freebsd-ufs (7.2T) 15519971328 2016 - free - (1M) Are these errors serious ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 17:28:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744E5106564A for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:28:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365698FC17 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id p8IHSJuM009478; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:28:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id p8IHSJ32009477; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:28:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:28:18 -0400 From: Thomas Dickey To: Yuri Message-ID: <20110918172818.GA8943@saltmine.radix.net> References: <4E7547B4.600@rawbw.com> <20110918130544.GA27690@saltmine.radix.net> <4E761714.1070308@rawbw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E761714.1070308@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why selecting text with mouse often doesn't make the text pasteable with mouse mid-button click? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:28:20 -0000 --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 09:06:44AM -0700, Yuri wrote: > On 09/18/2011 06:05, Thomas Dickey wrote: > >>> I notice this again and again: when I select some text in Konsole=20 > >>(KDE4) > >>> sometimes it doesn't paste with the middle mouse button click. > >Where are you pasting? (on another terminal emulator, in an application > >running in a terminal emulator, or within another X application)? > > >=20 > Test selected in Konsole I usually paste into Konsole. and it fails=20 > maybe in 5-10% of cases. hmm - no good guesses there. It could be an overactive Window manager grabbing the focus away at the wrong point (it's a nuisance on Mac OS X for instance). If it were a consistent problem with pasting into a given application, I had a couple of ideas... (consistent problems are easier to fix ;-) --=20 Thomas E. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:18:39 -0000 Op 18-09-11 18:35, freebsd@top-consulting.net schreef: > I am running 9.0 BETA2 and I see these errors in /var/log/messages: > > > Sep 16 18:07:51 store2 kernel: GEOM: da1: corrupt or invalid GPT > detected. > Sep 16 18:07:51 store2 kernel: GEOM: da1: GPT rejected -- may not be > recoverable. > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: lock order reversal: > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: 1st 0xffffff80f2692c98 bufwait > (bufwait) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:2658 > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: 2nd 0xfffffe00058a2200 dirhash > (dirhash) @ /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:284 > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper() at > db_trace_self_wrapper+0x2a > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: kdb_backtrace() at kdb_backtrace+0x37 > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: _witness_debugger() at > _witness_debugger+0x2e > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: witness_checkorder() at > witness_checkorder+0x807 > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: _sx_xlock() at _sx_xlock+0x55 > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: ufsdirhash_acquire() at > ufsdirhash_acquire+0x33 > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: ufsdirhash_remove() at > ufsdirhash_remove+0x16 > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: ufs_dirremove() at ufs_dirremove+0x1c3 > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: ufs_rename() at ufs_rename+0x101c > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: VOP_RENAME_APV() at VOP_RENAME_APV+0x9b > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: kern_renameat() at kern_renameat+0x4b4 > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: syscallenter() at syscallenter+0x1aa > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: syscall() at syscall+0x4c > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xdd > Sep 16 19:13:25 store2 kernel: --- syscall (128, FreeBSD ELF64, > rename), rip = 0x8008fee9c, rsp = 0x7fffffffa008, > rbp = 0x7fffffffa4f0 --- > Sep 16 19:13:27 store2 kernel: lock order reversal: > Sep 16 19:13:27 store2 kernel: 1st 0xfffffe006c8b9638 ufs (ufs) @ > /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:1175 > Sep 16 19:13:27 store2 kernel: 2nd 0xffffff80f2692c98 bufwait > (bufwait) @ /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vnops.c:260 > Sep 16 19:13:27 store2 kernel: 3rd 0xfffffe006ca38bd8 ufs (ufs) @ > /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2134 > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper() at > db_trace_self_wrapper+0x2a > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: kdb_backtrace() at kdb_backtrace+0x37 > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: _witness_debugger() at > _witness_debugger+0x2e > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: witness_checkorder() at > witness_checkorder+0x807 > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: __lockmgr_args() at __lockmgr_args+0xdc6 > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: ffs_lock() at ffs_lock+0x8c > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV() at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0x9b > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: _vn_lock() at _vn_lock+0x47 > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: vget() at vget+0x7b > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: vfs_hash_get() at vfs_hash_get+0xd5 > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: ffs_vgetf() at ffs_vgetf+0x48 > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: softdep_sync_buf() at > softdep_sync_buf+0x547 > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: ffs_sy > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: ncvnode > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: () at > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: ffs_syncvnode+0x2b3 > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: ffs_fsync() at ffs_fsync+0x43 > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: ufs_rename() at ufs_rename+0xc7f > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: VOP_RENAME_APV() at VOP_RENAME_APV+0x9b > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: kern_renameat() at kern_renameat+0x4b4 > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: syscallenter() at syscallenter+0x1aa > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: syscall() at syscall+0x4c > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xdd > Sep 16 19:13:28 store2 kernel: --- syscall (128, FreeBSD ELF64, > rename), rip = 0x8008fee9c, rsp = 0x7fffffffa008, > rbp = 0x7fffffffa4f0 --- > > > > > Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: lock order reversal: > Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: 1st 0xfffffe00054cc278 syncer (syncer) > @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:1734 > Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: 2nd 0xfffffe011ebea638 ufs (ufs) @ > /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2134 > Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: KDB: stack backtrace: > Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: db_trace_self_wrapper() at > db_trace_self_wrapper+0x2a > Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: kdb_backtrace() at kdb_backtrace+0x37 > Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: _witness_debugger() at > _witness_debugger+0x2e > Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: witness_checkorder() at > witness_checkorder+0x807 > Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: __lockmgr_args() at __lockmgr_args+0xdc6 > Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: ffs_lock() at ffs_lock+0x8c > Sep 18 12:30:51 store2 kernel: VOP_LOCK1_APV() at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0x9b > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: _vn_lock() at _vn_lock+0x47 > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: vget() at vget+0x7b > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: vfs_msync() at vfs_msync+0xa5 > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: sync_fsync() at sync_fsync+0x12a > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: sync_vnode() at sync_vnode+0x157 > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: sched_sync() at sched_sync+0x1d1 > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: fork_exit() at fork_exit+0x135 > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0xe > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: --- trap 0, rip > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: = > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: 0, > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: r > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: sp > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: = > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: 0x > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: ff > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 last message repeated 2 times > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: 8 > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: 116 > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: e1 > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: fd0 > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: 0, > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: r > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: bp > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: = > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: 0 > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: -- > Sep 18 12:30:52 store2 kernel: - > > > It seems to mention da1 but my mounted da1 partition appears just > fine. I copy files to/from it. > > gpart show da1 > => 34 15519973310 da1 GPT (7.2T) > 34 2014 - free - (1M) > 2048 15519969280 1 freebsd-ufs (7.2T) > 15519971328 2016 - free - (1M) > > > Are these errors serious ? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" These corrupted gpt issue you must try to resolve. Try the following command gpart recover da1 These lor errors appear because you have witness enabled as well as some other debugging options. These debugging and witness options will be disabled as FreeBSD is released. If you de not want them anymore, rebuild your kernel with the following options disabled. I use my own kernel config file and disable them by setting the nooption parameter. # Debugging disable for use in -current nooptions KDB nooptions DDB nooptions GDB nooptions INVARIANTS nooptions INVARIANT_SUPPORT ures, required by INVARIANTS nooptions WITNESS nooptions WITNESS_SKIPSPIN There is a webpage which has all these lor's summed up. http://ipv4.sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/lor.html See if your lor is on the list if so, you can leave it like it is, if they ar not on the list, notify the current@freebsd list. regards, Johan Hendriks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 19:30:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62412106566C for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B338FC0A for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R5N3v-0003C6-J5; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:30:09 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R5N3U-0003My-SN; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:29:32 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8IJTWre085525; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:29:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p8IJTWqC085524; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:29:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:29:32 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Thomas Dickey Message-ID: <20110918192932.GA85501@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Thomas Dickey , Yuri , FreeBSD Questions References: <4E7547B4.600@rawbw.com> <20110918130544.GA27690@saltmine.radix.net> <4E761714.1070308@rawbw.com> <20110918172818.GA8943@saltmine.radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110918172818.GA8943@saltmine.radix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Yuri , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why selecting text with mouse often doesn't make the text pasteable with mouse mid-button click? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:30:26 -0000 On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 01:28:18PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 09:06:44AM -0700, Yuri wrote: > > On 09/18/2011 06:05, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > >>> I notice this again and again: when I select some text in Konsole > > >>(KDE4) > > >>> sometimes it doesn't paste with the middle mouse button click. > > >Where are you pasting? (on another terminal emulator, in an application > > >running in a terminal emulator, or within another X application)? > > > > > > > Test selected in Konsole I usually paste into Konsole. and it fails > > maybe in 5-10% of cases. > > hmm - no good guesses there. It could be an overactive Window manager > grabbing the focus away at the wrong point (it's a nuisance on Mac OS X > for instance). If it were a consistent problem with pasting into a > given application, I had a couple of ideas... > > (consistent problems are easier to fix ;-) Now you mentioned it, I see something similar. I typically paste from one xterm window to another. Typically one xterm is the local box and another xterm is some ssh session. What I see on amd64 laptop is that pasting with a built-in mouse stops working after a while. I typically have a usb mouse as well. Pasting with a usb mouse never fails. I can copy with a built-in mouse and paste with a usb mouse. Because in the end I get done what I need, I never really bothered to think why. Next time this happens, I'll try to record the exact details, if you are interested. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 20:14:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6163106564A for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E4F8FC08 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadk27 with SMTP id k27so7183045iad.13 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:14:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OsLl/jsDuyQSebAl2xUbeJjawzUGCb3e0ABUQ2jAcwc=; b=rpVeUtokyQsJdePGMKhgezKDlj2FlJ+ozFNz0PyeCoXi4Ohnvp1kB2aRnLpTtAXmbh O5kiIuJY9wvFTf/fn5lleU/LnzC5XBantBHnIeTvsuLfSdlPVO/sbzSFabCPyuWK1E8N IEqwIgTRmW0Kv5bTZbmUwVWnhTdheU50sM064= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.153.130 with SMTP id m2mr3132066icw.155.1316376867943; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.239.133 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:14:27 -0400 Message-ID: From: Aryeh Friedman To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: a portmaster/ports question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:14:28 -0000 Is there any way to get portmaster to reinstall every port in the *EXACT* same order they where installed in, preferably with out any knowledge of what ports where installed after the current one was.... the reason for asking is many times it seems that subtle incompatibilities solely due to either the order of upgrades in -ad and/or when a port gets updated autoconfig picks up stuff non-dependant ports that where installed later... a good example of the second is gettext compiles with java support if you reinstall after installing Java but does not do so if installing before you install it From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 20:58:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395AB1065674 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1B88FC12 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id p8IKw2uM005753; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id p8IKw1rV005752; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:58:01 -0400 From: Thomas Dickey To: Yuri , FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110918205801.GA4621@saltmine.radix.net> References: <4E7547B4.600@rawbw.com> <20110918130544.GA27690@saltmine.radix.net> <4E761714.1070308@rawbw.com> <20110918172818.GA8943@saltmine.radix.net> <20110918192932.GA85501@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110918192932.GA85501@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Cc: Subject: Re: Why selecting text with mouse often doesn't make the text pasteable with mouse mid-button click? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:58:03 -0000 --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 08:29:32PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 01:28:18PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 09:06:44AM -0700, Yuri wrote: > > > On 09/18/2011 06:05, Thomas Dickey wrote: > > > >>> I notice this again and again: when I select some text in Konsol= e=20 > > > >>(KDE4) > > > >>> sometimes it doesn't paste with the middle mouse button click. > > > >Where are you pasting? (on another terminal emulator, in an applica= tion > > > >running in a terminal emulator, or within another X application)? > > > > > > >=20 > > > Test selected in Konsole I usually paste into Konsole. and it fails= =20 > > > maybe in 5-10% of cases. > >=20 > > hmm - no good guesses there. It could be an overactive Window manager > > grabbing the focus away at the wrong point (it's a nuisance on Mac OS X > > for instance). If it were a consistent problem with pasting into a > > given application, I had a couple of ideas... > >=20 > > (consistent problems are easier to fix ;-) >=20 > Now you mentioned it, I see something similar. > I typically paste from one xterm window to another. > Typically one xterm is the local box and another > xterm is some ssh session. this part could be xterm, but more likely is in the X server. An xterm-specific problem tends to be pretty reproducible, since it'll depend on what the source/destination are. (The ones that aren't are related to timing and repainting - things like that). =20 > What I see on amd64 laptop is that pasting with a built-in > mouse stops working after a while. I typically have > a usb mouse as well. Pasting with a usb mouse never fails. >=20 > I can copy with a built-in mouse and paste with a usb mouse. > Because in the end I get done what I need, I never > really bothered to think why. >=20 > Next time this happens, I'll try to record the > exact details, if you are interested. hmm - I'm not sure I can use the information effectively. Right now I'm se= tup with a KVM using USB for a Mac OS X server, with a laptop running Xen Server (which gets its mouse via the X connection). Both of those run VM's, which= is where I do most of my work... (the hardware stays stable for quite a while= ). The KVM's used to occasionally access a desktop. --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFOdltXtIqByHxlDocRAtvEAJwNjCeQVgbMHWUxCKnnbW0uqGiA5QCgiLFx AUN3bQfOZ94FyeBrU66Ry90= =y989 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 21:05:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79826106564A for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.62.230.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D908FC12 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WildRover.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2] (may be forged)) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01205; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:05:34 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201109182105.PAA01205@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:05:31 -0600 To: "Brian Seklecki (Mobile)" From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: References: <201109180353.VAA25649@lariat.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ICMP redirects and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:05:39 -0000 At 11:06 PM 9/17/2011, Brian Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: >Only a few unsound routing/network topology configurations really >depend on redirects these days; They can't be trusted because they >can't be authenticated? ~BAS There's no cryptologically sound authentication, true, but there isn't for proxy ARP either (and that's one of the other options that I'd rather not use). Redirects do have the advantage that they can be firewalled, so that they will not be allowed to originate outside the network and will only be accepted from certain trusted hosts within it. If the firewall rules are correct, an outside attacker can't spoof redirects. My interest in this is that I am trying to figure out the best way to manage a routed corporate network with rapidly changing topology and frequent assignments and reassignments of addresses and address blocks. RIP is a disastrous mess and very chatty. But allowing a gateway to tell routers "below" it in the network hierarchy about one another's address assignments via ICMP redirects is very efficient and manageable. It means that only the gateway's routing table must be updated to do an address assignment. What's more, there's virtually zero propagation time and no flapping. The problem seems to be that RFC 1821 ignores this use of ICMP redirects. It recommends not allowing any router to accept ICMP redirects, and this appears to have been hard coded into FreeBSD's network stack. --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 21:38:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1375106564A for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857D98FC08 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:38:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11226 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2011 21:11:25 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-120.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.120]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 Sep 2011 21:11:25 -0000 Message-ID: <4E765E7D.4080509@speakeasy.net> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:11:25 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110120 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd general questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 'Which' Mailing List Command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:38:06 -0000 There used to be a command to get a list of subscriptions from majordomo. What is the equivalent for mailman? I just got the help command for -questions. There doesn't seem to be a 'which' command. Thanks, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 18 21:59:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A441A1065670 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:59:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797DF8FC0A for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FBAD8B for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:59:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:59:15 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Message-ID: <81C853D1253C1A5E1B35675C@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B52344BE4831@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> References: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B52344BE4831@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: System locking up. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:59:16 -0000 --As of September 18, 2011 2:29:20 PM +0100, Graeme Dargie is alleged to have said: > I have a system that is being problematic, I suspect but I cannot say for > sure it is maybe related to ZFS as I have a fairly large ZFS pool on the > machine. The system will just lock up, local console does not respond to > the keyboard, num lock still changes the led on the keyboard, the system > still responds to pings but you cannot ssh to the unit. The behaviour is > random the system can be running for 50 days plus with no issues then > suddenly it enters this state, the error logs do not show anything. --As for the rest, it is mine. Where is your swap located? I've seen similar on a ZFS system with swap on ZFS, when running low on RAM. If that's the case, you can either put in more RAM (so you don't need to use swap) or move swap to a dedicated disk/partition, that's not under ZFS control. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. 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I've been trying to download FreeBSD, but my download always hangs at 342MB or 261MB, then it eventually says connection interrupted. I've tried downloading it on other computers but the same thing happens. What's wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 00:24:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEFE1065670 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@blueapex.co.uk) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CAF8FC13 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.66.2.54] (82-68-0-18.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.68.0.18]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MCMWT-1QwxDm484f-009eRi; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 02:24:52 +0200 Message-ID: <4E768BD2.1050503@blueapex.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 01:24:50 +0100 From: Richard Collyer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110902 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:zIdSYZVcARBYxLqBnTjUEEj5kVDmgJipZ0zfFuTwUgr KJhqk5aquMJ3xF6udX/hg918vNNcfeabCkJRT1+QHJLy+D02vn wDDTZkEegDMKzmIzTYrceDDA4augoFW8r1Q/T8OdFB43xcizEt 8JVSSeR4lNTqxQ/eUCxNgjtEIMOYwUkIUinBD/6MmrAu997Ikv tGONlHnOuZnwN7sBFQr75Xfjx7S64ux71zRri517BqXRdpSFp5 c5waFO8FqflRATAXo34wOVrGAV53PoQT4g/AT1Kep9ha6DqOow eYgbzTLLKioHlJXEm9aZcmr/bPXzR6+SxJhCo0flO9BSP6aCco jc81BVx28zhSsOkTipuk= Subject: Re: Can't Download FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:24:53 -0000 On 18/09/2011 20:21, Brandon Nass wrote: > Hello. I've been trying to download FreeBSD, but my download always hangs at > 342MB or 261MB, then it eventually says connection interrupted. I've tried > downloading it on other computers but the same thing happens. What's wrong? How are you downloading it? FTP / HTTP etc? Have you tried using a different server/mirror to download from. Richard -- Richard Collyer Blue Apex Ltd 07900 997 380 Registered as a company in England and Wales (Reg Number: 05982514). 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APNIC Staff ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - $Id: dbmon,v 1.1 2003/03/13 09:03:54 root Exp $ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 03:51:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2E3106564A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 03:51:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alphachi@mediaspirit.org) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842838FC1F for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 03:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadk27 with SMTP id k27so7626286iad.13 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:51:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.132.193 with SMTP id e1mr3545701ict.95.1316402854579; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.213.72 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:27:34 +0800 Message-ID: From: alphachi To: "list: freebsd" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Looking for multimedia content creator like Adobe Director X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 03:51:53 -0000 I want to create the multimedia show including text, picture and sound. In Mac&Windows, Adobe Director is a good multimedia IDE. In FreeBSD, which ports are similar? I only know graphics/processing, but it's too old and need JDK. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 04:25:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B026E106566B for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 04:25:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F13A8FC08 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 04:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p8J4PUNb061127 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p8J4PUjE061126; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA13155; Sun, 18 Sep 11 21:23:47 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 04:23:25 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd@top-consulting.net Message-Id: <4e77262d.r69CWE4NrG3dMpOv%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20110916063153.200375qdq59crf8c@mail.top-consulting.net> In-Reply-To: <20110916063153.200375qdq59crf8c@mail.top-consulting.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FS of choice for max random iops ( Maildir ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 04:25:42 -0000 freebsd@top-consulting.net wrote: > C. TEST3 ( sequential writing ): bonnie++ -d /data -c 10 -s 8088 -n 0 -u 0 > > 1. UFS + gjournal crashed the box This _might_ have been caused by a too-small journal provider. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 05:54:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51879106567A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 05:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46C28FC1A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 05:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8J5sDFj061433 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:54:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8J5sDFj061433 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1316411654; bh=Mgz+EpCupxikiXnQuKwy+56Hh7pLywj+b0iforjTln0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E76D8FC.80404@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Mon ,=2019=20Sep=202011=2006:54:04=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20 |User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Mac intosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/201 10902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20"Jason=20C.=20 Wells"=20|CC:=20freebsd=20general=20questions=2 0|Subject:=20Re:=20'Which'=20Mailin g=20List=20Command|References:=20<4E765E7D.4080509@speakeasy.net>| In-Reply-To:=20<4E765E7D.4080509@speakeasy.net>|X-Enigmail-Version :=201.3.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signe d=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-si gnature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig37F12BE2A22001ADF9 AE321E"; b=m/A6MFA1CjQGe31HGNS1aTakl4E6R8iGSkHJwLsbqQ7w6jKHcQGqVBeWia5RIXob5 HOLu4vzCHpVJvW/cdLXpkdBSvCpmEj8b81XpdJsvlcdLkuvmwYUTDn9304tnd0k/ey cCs/dDILuFoN8W+ln7uZS3FozAn7AwaC9ZJbUKpw= Message-ID: <4E76D8FC.80404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:54:04 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jason C. Wells" References: <4E765E7D.4080509@speakeasy.net> In-Reply-To: <4E765E7D.4080509@speakeasy.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig37F12BE2A22001ADF9AE321E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: 'Which' Mailing List Command X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 05:54:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig37F12BE2A22001ADF9AE321E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 18/09/2011 22:11, Jason C. Wells wrote: > There used to be a command to get a list of subscriptions from > majordomo. What is the equivalent for mailman? I just got the help > command for -questions. There doesn't seem to be a 'which' command. For mailman, you can access the list of subscribers from the web interface *if* you are a list admin. Well, in theory you could see it if the list has been configured to show all subscribers to anyone, but no-one sane configures mailman that way, given the potential for address harvesting by spammers. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig37F12BE2A22001ADF9AE321E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk522QUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzeDgCbBirKEc4fZLpO3zO3lRTWdgsT T1sAn0oXrEc3Xdoa+Inz5Jgy69tdVvVQ =ndJp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig37F12BE2A22001ADF9AE321E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 08:06:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4B81065673 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61D28FC1A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:06:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R5YsO-0006Zq-IO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:06:52 +0200 Received: from c-82-209-158-57.cust.bredband2.com ([82.209.158.57]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:06:52 +0200 Received: from mc by c-82-209-158-57.cust.bredband2.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:06:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Cardell Widerkrantz Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:06:40 +0200 Organization: Temple of the Moby Hack Lines: 12 Message-ID: <864o09ymzz.fsf@brain.hack.org> References: <20110916063153.200375qdq59crf8c@mail.top-consulting.net> <32990703-D068-4B0D-AF3A-C1E6EA0A4100@elde.net> <20110916101833.17485ybnq5srjbc4@mail.top-consulting.net> <20110916173956.18133qtvqi91m3wg@mail.top-consulting.net> <4E749394.1090607@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-82-209-158-57.cust.bredband2.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4p3fmYrk+JlsjUCnzJyB28qLtsc= Subject: Re: FS of choice for max random iops ( Maildir ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:06:56 -0000 Volodymyr Kostyrko , 2011-09-17 14:33 (+0200): > You really like to wait for hours before fsck will finish checking for > your volume? While it's true that fsck on large filesystems takes ages soft updates and background fsck makes it a lot less bothersome than it used to be. -- http://hack.org/mc/ Use plain text e-mail, please. HTML messages silently dropped. OpenPGP welcome, 0xE4C92FA5. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 09:21:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20441106566C for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alphachi@mediaspirit.org) Received: from mail-gw0-f50.google.com (mail-gw0-f50.google.com [74.125.83.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9BE8FC17 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj16 with SMTP id 16so5587623gwj.37 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 02:21:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.150.196 with SMTP id b4mr4161551icw.153.1316424072089; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 02:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.213.72 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 02:21:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E768BD2.1050503@blueapex.co.uk> References: <4E768BD2.1050503@blueapex.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:21:12 +0800 Message-ID: From: alphachi To: Richard Collyer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Can't Download FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:21:14 -0000 Or you can try BT: http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 10:54:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448F2106564A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timon@timon.net.nz) Received: from frost.plasmahost.ru (plasmahost.ru [178.63.60.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62038FC16 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pc121.office.masterhost.ru ([87.242.97.5]) (AUTH: PLAIN timon@timon.net.nz, SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3, 256bits, CAMELLIA256-SHA) by frost.plasmahost.ru with ESMTPSA; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:41:55 +0000 id 00017110.000000004E771C75.0000AF65 Message-ID: <4E771D09.3050107@timon.net.nz> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:44:25 +0400 From: Alexandr Matveev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110818 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: LVS/DR load balancing via FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:54:49 -0000 Hi, We have two Linux servers doing LVS/DR load balancing (rewriting MAC addresses). Is there a way to do this in FreeBSD, so there won't be need for a Linux servers here? ( http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/VS-DRouting.html ) There is a port net/ipvs but it's an old and (seemingly) unmaintained patches. -- Alexandr Matveev From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 11:46:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD52F106566C for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473C48FC0C for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8JBjtSj024804 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:45:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8JBjtSj024804 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1316432755; bh=WCbpB7DJ0Ty8EtaQjZ9kku0yaw9txiJljCNw8JOg5ig=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E772B69.2030408@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2019=20Sep=202011=2012:45:45=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/2 0110902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Alexandr=20M atveev=20|CC:=20FreeBSD=20Mailing=20List=20|Subject:=20Re:=20LVS/DR=20load=20bala ncing=20via=20FreeBSD|References:=20<4E771D09.3050107@timon.net.nz >|In-Reply-To:=20<4E771D09.3050107@timon.net.nz>|X-Enigmail-Versio n:=201.3.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/sign ed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-s ignature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig4303A0094FAF65BFC E3F0C9B"; b=vWGLSfMrfIPuwoDsCF0DKY6G6k5Ed58PVfzNE7LQ3JBs2ce9jjWlxFAUrcrpqqywH X17kJWA8Lnw2Nu4W3ViAW/SGdknG42Msn1+y3qcHuDpQc8406d6tonSDFbXITCuar6 YlIKRt868mOLut46FK6yScucFfUF6tDgVIeHpxuw= Message-ID: <4E772B69.2030408@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:45:45 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexandr Matveev References: <4E771D09.3050107@timon.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4E771D09.3050107@timon.net.nz> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4303A0094FAF65BFCE3F0C9B" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: LVS/DR load balancing via FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:46:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4303A0094FAF65BFCE3F0C9B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19/09/2011 11:44, Alexandr Matveev wrote: > We have two Linux servers doing LVS/DR load balancing (rewriting MAC > addresses). > Is there a way to do this in FreeBSD, so there won't be need for a Linu= x > servers here? > ( http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/VS-DRouting.html ) >=20 > There is a port net/ipvs but it's an old and (seemingly) unmaintained= > patches. Sounds like relayd(8) might be what you need -- in ports as net/relayd. It works with the pf(4) firewall, and you can use it to implement almost all of the functions of an expensive hardware loadbalancer on a cheap PC. It should be able to do what you want -- which I am more familiar with as 'Direct Server Return.' relayd(8) is ported from OpenBSD, and the FreeBSD port doesn't yet support absolutely everything that it can do natively on OpenBSD. The missing stuff is mostly to do with creating a HA firewall/load-balancer pair, which seems to be one of your requirements, so you might want to try it under OpenBSD. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig4303A0094FAF65BFCE3F0C9B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk53K3IACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxXMgCeM6rNLEaF9t64Q3qS7HOx3ZrZ S+0AoIDLzZqGEHJ3p1BCwcLhfynBQIFN =EOYt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4303A0094FAF65BFCE3F0C9B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 12:52:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18882106567B; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:52:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE16A8FC28; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:52:24 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=2zd51lGwtsCCDJ1J3q7KLjPL7y7x9bANmLNnQQKfOoo=; b=H9l1jXIH0fdrQnQAlZVsJkLHmvfOUVnSM6ndmbUdfkqelkEj87B1MWRflGFIMkIaq3+IkrvtFQBu4BDsQDRtWORmNmsSkVeUP7QNhPqpXSR5Rxz+XoZceMIgSOzWO7Him5jMdVmjs+5fZim432sQJrhUSM+u4q92ddUfxilgShM= Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([76.240.47.196]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 05:52:25 -0700 Message-ID: <4E773B0B.80501@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:52:27 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nathan Whitehorn , FreeBSD Questions References: <20110918095526.D866D1065670@hub.freebsd.org> <4E769252.4040101@a1poweruser.com> <4E76F658.7080008@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4E76F658.7080008@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2011 12:52:25.0295 (UTC) FILETIME=[FAF84DF0:01CC76CA] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.0 beta2 & the new bsdinstaller X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:52:25 -0000 Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > On 09/19/11 02:52, Fbsd8 wrote: >> Kevin Oberman wrote: >>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:55 AM, <"Thomas Mueller >>> wrote: >>>> Some more ideas on the new bsdinstaller cross my mind. >>>> >>>> Since the way the bsdinstaller would make partitions is >>>> unpredictable, at least to the uninitiated, and in all likelihood at >>>> variance with how much space the user wants to allocate, it might be >>>> better to offer a roadmap to help guide the user to allocating space >>>> for FreeBSD using gpart or Rod Smith's gdisk. >>>> >>>> Also, I can't see the function of the 64 KB boot partition with no >>>> file system, which does not boot for me, though I can boot the main >>>> partition using grub2 from the System Rescue CD >>>> (http://sysresccd.org/). >>> >>> The 64KB freebsd-boot partition is to contain the GPT boot code which >>> is used by UEFI BIOS in >>> place of the old MBR used by legacy BIOS. You need to use gpart(8) to >>> write the GPT boot code to that partition, but I don't know if >>> bsdinstall does so. It might just write the PMBR that is used for >>> booting with legacy BIOS. I'll admit that I have not checked. (See the >>> gpart(8) man page for details on writing the pmbr and gptboot.) I >>> assume bsdinstall writes both so that AMD64 machines with EFI and >>> 32-bit systems will both work. This is very different from the old >>> traditional slice/partition system. >> >> The above info is another example of the type of information that should >> be added to a "help" option on the dialog screen for the bsdinstall disk >> configuration function. >> >> I also think that the bsdinstaller should offer the user an option to >> select between using the old MBR configuration used by legacy BIOS that >> sysinstall uses and the new gpart configuration which bsdinstall offers >> now. > > You absolutely can do new MBR installs, as well as new straight bsdlabel > installs ("dangerously dedicated"). You just have to use the partition > editor instead of the autopartitioner, and then choose to use the > appropriate partition type. > -Nathan > > I think you missed the point here. What is being requested is the partitioning dialog from sysinstall to be included in bsdinstall. The bsdinstall partitioning dialog should inform users about the differences between older and newer PCs and offer options to auto-configure the H.D appropriately. Or better yet have bsdinstall check the hardwares bios to determine if the bios are UEFI aware and what methods can be used to partition. The key here is that bsdinstall should provide at least the same level of automation as sysinstall has on this subject. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 14:54:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E52106564A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnavaza@hotmail.com) Received: from dub0-omc4-s17.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc4-s17.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.2.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831058FC19 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:54:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DUB102-W60 ([157.55.2.71]) by dub0-omc4-s17.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:54:13 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.194.42.137] From: Rafael NAVAZA To: Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:54:13 +0200 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2011 14:54:13.0931 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF41A7B0:01CC76DB] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: OpenLDAP + CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:54:16 -0000 Hi guys=2C Is there a way to setup an OpenLDAP HA cluster (intersite multimaster) with= CARP on FreeBSD ? Rafael. = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 15:16:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AD7106566B for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:16:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from moritz@barfooze.de) Received: from barfooze.de (barfooze.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:7d:200:0:4e2e:75d4:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9858FC0A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:16:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from moritz by barfooze.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R5faL-0008Mp-EG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:16:41 +0200 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:16:41 +0200 From: Moritz Wilhelmy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110919151641.GI22957@barfooze.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Passing additional options to jail(8) via rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:16:43 -0000 Hello, let's say I want to pass additional options like ip4=inherit to my jails configured via /etc/rc.conf. How do I get this to work? Apparently, setting jail_www_flags="-l -U root ip4=inherit" is the wrong order, because these parameters are expected after -c, which is apparently inserted by the rc-script *after* the flags passed via the variable. Has anyone else had this problem, and is there a way to solve it rather than setting the jail up things by hand in rc.local? I'd prefer using the sugar rc.conf offers me. Maybe there is another, undocumented variable for this kind of options? Am I overlooking something? Thanks in advance, Moritz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 16:53:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B856106564A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614188FC15 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:53:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=MjE4+NZ5XdtvxCOSmTMA/XrGjMKbFug0aG+qJKL0gsY=; b=WRNx4pKWG7NCqosJ/zfdPTj4+0ROgXPyOCIsO9gU1WESQVvQWEhPQRq59KUlyTu/4KFg4Y5ntVU8y2VFqPfUROKO+fg9Qv8H0WOlxk/ets47XNlCSM0ak3AAy1QuIFltm56XN8nRA4OnZz3K8Vg4lCe39DHRcKERlvtX60fiaeU= Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([76.240.47.196]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:53:36 -0700 Message-ID: <4E777392.2080004@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:53:38 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2011 16:53:36.0453 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC73C750:01CC76EC] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Subject: location of bsdinstall "welcome" dialog screen source X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:53:36 -0000 When installing 9.0 from cd or dvd the first screen bsdinstall shows is the bsdinstall welcome screen. I can not locate the source for this. Its not in /usr/sbin or /usr/libexec/bsdinstall/ Can someone please point it out? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 17:57:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAC4106566B for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D158FC13 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8JHvKbZ091949 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:57:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8JHvKL7070247 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:57:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p8JHvJC3070245; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:57:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:57:19 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Unga Message-ID: <20110919175719.GI9801@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1316347805.62034.YahooMailClassic@web160112.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1316347805.62034.YahooMailClassic@web160112.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:57:20 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Segmentation fault, _malloc_prefork () - debugging help needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:57:21 -0000 In the last episode (Sep 18), Unga said: > I'm developing an multi-threaded application on FreeBSD. > > When it is running for sometime, it develops a Segmentation fault. > > The ddd debugger shows following: > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > [Switching to Thread 296c6580 (LWP 100137)] > 0x28ee390e in _malloc_prefork () from /lib/libc.so.7 > > How could I know the exact line in source where this issue develops? If you have a full /usr/src tree extracted, you can edit /usr/src/lib/libc/Makefile and add DEBUG_FLAGS=-g at the top, then run "make obj && make depend && make && make install" to install the new libc with debugging symbols. Then your debugger will show more info for functions inside libc. If you don't have a source tree checked out yet, install the devel/subversion-freebsd port, cd into /usr/src/ and run svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/8 . (or base/release/8.2.0, or base/stable/7 or base/head, depending on which version you want; you can browse the branches at http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/ before you checkout anything) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 18:57:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29301065672 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from openslateproj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EE08FC0A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:57:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so5881512gxk.13 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:57:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+eR5d3OpVOne2rZQ0LipnPdJNTN4QVZFZmJYRqe2VcY=; b=YudQZONVDZkUBmib+9jmwoaOKxJ+DMSzyxhs3fex5kUZtDlN5vmnufG3V12C913CJh fXHAHFho/b2czWtp47s0z0IaMUB+buo4CQPx1rEJQE6oXwPhujnlBhfOFBdfqGbKrUYO +OjQZRcyiuO+1VE5BwMC+wxrq+brydOl5g530= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.14.100 with SMTP id o4mr4764863pbc.340.1316458666684; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.58.70 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:57:46 -1000 Message-ID: From: Open Slate To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Enlightenment tips and tricks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:57:48 -0000 After using Gnome for awhile I am giving Enlightenment a try. Loved it many years ago but it consumed a lot of resources, the current version does not appear to have that limitation. What other ports do Enlightenment fans recommend to extend its functionality? I have the gimp, Abi Word, Lyx, and Bluefish. I do like Gnumenric, but doesn't that pull in a lot of Gnome? (i already have Gnome but want to do over without it.) I am not a heavy spreadsheet power-user, maybe I should stick with Google Docs, which I do use? Favorite mail clients? I used to use sylpheed, does it play well with Enlightenment? Favorite web browser, again looking for integration, the way Epiphany fits in with Gnome. System administration tools? Notebook computer stuff, especially power management, at least as much as Gnome has. Monitoring tools, at least. A replacement for gdm that is more like Enlightenment than xdm is, as I recall. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 19:11:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58367106566C for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:11:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon@301south.net) Received: from ocean.301south.net (ocean.301south.net [98.173.24.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7668FC14 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 301south.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: b) by ocean.301south.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C6B0F84841 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:51:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=301south.net; s=301south; t=1316458304; bh=w32LE1breuDl8bywYUnvharisGW0z2IJh8iwR+ietjQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CZz8//ExOIytnCSfnfsB32zBTCXowC5iSzNPvEPo0w5sL7RfN9UOQ15DXuETOFFqs iWSWYn26ohLu8pphRfqFw== Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:51:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Brandon Kuczenski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Using ports and packages together (or, how do I get mod_php5 ? ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:11:30 -0000 Hi, I'm running RELENG_8_2 and I've been using packages instead of ports for most things, because they're so much quicker. But certain packages aren't compiled the way I need them to be-- postfix had no TLS or SASL support, for example, so I built it from the port. However, that is beginning to lead to some dependency issues. When attempting to build php5 in order to obtain the apache module (see: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-March/195199.html ) Portinstall informs that libtool-2.2.10 (from the release package) is too old, that I need to upgrade to libtool 2.4 (which is available from the port). I'm concerned that, if I have some packages built from ports and some installed from the release, that the system will become unstable if things get too out of sync. Am I incorrect? i.e. should I just go ahead and install libtool 2.4 from the port? I don't see this discussed explicitly in the handbook. Thanks in advance, Brandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 19:28:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CB31065679 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:28:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jstrother9109@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f178.google.com (mail-wy0-f178.google.com [74.125.82.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C358FC0A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so7260360wyf.37 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:28:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wQazyDsRy4PrvngsU2ArczOBJpWDxMHAZjYRgPlbo28=; b=diqaR4Andr4FAwVnXP/Z8eGndZFiQ4Shf4oimD/z/uf8EFmh8cQhQuWTNZMlaYxoq3 CLrFNGgJ4J0gVsrQGK7hFW0/VIZsUwRwZy+IE7A/MBc3p0OZAwn9bcvEseJ1SbjQdmGQ AkZw2x0pGHxjkU6V1RZJKG0S7h9f3ikkCvKmU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.129.77 with SMTP id n13mr815273wbs.37.1316459159042; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.128.141 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:05:58 -0400 Message-ID: From: James Strother To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: limit number of ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:28:59 -0000 Does anyone know a good way of limiting the number of ssh attempts from a single IP address? I found the following website, which describes a variety of approaches: http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/Block_repeated_illegal_or_failed_SSH_logins But I am honestly not really happy with any of them. Continuously polling log files for regex hits seems...well crude. Just to give you an idea of what I mean, here were some of the issues I had. The sshd-scan.sh script allows IPs to be reinstated, but the timing is dependent on how frequently you rotate logs. sshguard has a pretty website, but I can't actually find much useful documentation on how to configure it. fail2ban looks like it might work with sufficient work, but the defaults are terrible. By default, every time an IP is reinstated, all IPs are reinstated. Not to mention, at present I can't seem to get it to trigger any hits. I suppose I could keep shopping, but the truth is I just think polling log files is the wrong way to solve the problem. Anything based on this approach is going to have a long latency and be highly dependent on the unspecified and unstable formatting of log files (see http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/HOWTO_Mac_OS_X_Server_(10.4) and the troubles an exclamation point can cause). I would much much rather do something like this: http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/block_brute_force_attacks_with_iptables/ Does anyone know a way to do something similar with ipfw? Thanks in advance, Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 19:30:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F8110656AA for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097838FC2C for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.4/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id p8JJTqbp038408 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:29:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 164 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB131FF74 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:30:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id 2B8BA43C0; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:30:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:30:29 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110919193029.GA59781@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 4E779856.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4E779856.002/134.157.10.1/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr/ Subject: Re: location of bsdinstall "welcome" dialog screen source X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:30:32 -0000 Fbsd8 wrote: > When installing 9.0 from cd or dvd the first screen bsdinstall shows is > the bsdinstall welcome screen. I can not locate the source for this. > Its not in > /usr/sbin or /usr/libexec/bsdinstall/ > > Can someone please point it out? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts/auto?rev=1.14 -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 19:44:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A9B106564A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mr.festin@yandex.ru) Received: from forward8.mail.yandex.net (forward8.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:202::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01128FC16 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web97.yandex.ru (web97.yandex.ru [77.88.60.22]) by forward8.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 20005F6228F; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:44:11 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1316461451; bh=GOkYKH9edkoK1tF1TpttN51wuHulfgDVMLYLj+jKVKg=; h=From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id: Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=DdaBE2zUTWpGWXNyCS//vQt+GL9XuvL5WWBA59/Gg9kUTFsUbr48FKAALqVGFmcwk PLAukRYN5mkwB1Yzw5nKGVhipcc8JbhHtVqYvzuPbmtS7iNBSe3BZr5mF3nEeYZUv5 9ryi/nYL/dYup6MhwjrgIopTcT00ISGFfBTWJ74w= Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web97.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id F3753131802F; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:44:10 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1316461451; bh=GOkYKH9edkoK1tF1TpttN51wuHulfgDVMLYLj+jKVKg=; h=From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id: Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=DdaBE2zUTWpGWXNyCS//vQt+GL9XuvL5WWBA59/Gg9kUTFsUbr48FKAALqVGFmcwk PLAukRYN5mkwB1Yzw5nKGVhipcc8JbhHtVqYvzuPbmtS7iNBSe3BZr5mF3nEeYZUv5 9ryi/nYL/dYup6MhwjrgIopTcT00ISGFfBTWJ74w= X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from 89-178-42-25.broadband.corbina.ru (89-178-42-25.broadband.corbina.ru [89.178.42.25]) by web97.yandex.ru with HTTP; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:44:09 +0400 From: =?koi8-r?B?59LJx8/S2MXXIOHMxcvTwc7E0g==?= To: James Strother In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <946851316461449@web97.yandex.ru> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:44:09 +0400 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limit number of ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:44:13 -0000 If your target is protect freebsd box from bruting passwords from inet maybe security/knockd will help you? 19.09.2011, 23:05, "James Strother" : > Does anyone know a good way of limiting the number of ssh attempts > from a single IP address? > > I found the following website, which describes a variety of approaches: > > http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/Block_repeated_illegal_or_failed_SSH_logins > > But I am honestly not really happy with any of them. šContinuously > polling log files for regex hits seems...well crude. šJust to give you > an idea of what I mean, here were some of the issues I had. The > sshd-scan.sh script allows IPs to be reinstated, but the timing is > dependent on how frequently you rotate logs. šsshguard has a pretty > website, but I can't actually find much useful documentation on how to > configure it. šfail2ban looks like it might work with sufficient work, > but the defaults are terrible. šBy default, every time an IP is > reinstated, all IPs are reinstated. šNot to mention, at present I > can't seem to get it to trigger any hits. > > I suppose I could keep shopping, but the truth is I just think polling > log files is the wrong way to solve the problem. šAnything based on > this approach is going to have a long latency and be highly dependent > on the unspecified and unstable formatting of log files (see > http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/HOWTO_Mac_OS_X_Server_(10.4) > and the troubles an exclamation point can cause). > > I would much much rather do something like this: > > http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/block_brute_force_attacks_with_iptables/ > > Does anyone know a way to do something similar with ipfw? > > Thanks in advance, > ššJim > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 20:02:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25756106566B for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:02:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jstrother9109@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B748FC16 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe3 with SMTP id 3so7967381wwe.31 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:02:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jArl15xjViJlr8XEPkOKWOkSxZUdFNzrE0wcAThpqDQ=; b=uVSfbqebw2HVMkqjA9d2uGVeGIfZWduvi8owlRBLRQDDTP/oY2HjQxrjNMXXoS9AkP XfC3DmUojeqHd60e8kNZv00fMPwcjVGMIp9B9B7biuHG/SSm+V8fT0AGYIWS+fa5mXAA nuEz7tz036sCp0WPpMfqA6AfUuvxkdFZCM7Mg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.129.77 with SMTP id n13mr871022wbs.37.1316462575905; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.128.141 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:02:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <946851316461449@web97.yandex.ru> References: <946851316461449@web97.yandex.ru> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:02:55 -0400 Message-ID: From: James Strother To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: limit number of ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:02:58 -0000 That's an interesting project, I hadn't realized port knocking had become so easy to use. Unfortunately, for this particular server, I need to be able to provide a simple way for (a very limited number of) users to login into the system remotely using a variety of OS platforms. So I don't think port knocking is a good fit here. Thanks, Jim 2011/9/19 =E7=D2=C9=C7=CF=D2=D8=C5=D7 =E1=CC=C5=CB=D3=C1=CE=C4=D2 : > If your target is protect freebsd box from bruting passwords from inet ma= ybe security/knockd will help you? > > 19.09.2011, 23:05, "James Strother" : >> Does anyone know a good way of limiting the number of ssh attempts >> from a single IP address? >> >> I found the following website, which describes a variety of approaches: >> >> http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/Block_repeated_illegal_or_failed_SS= H_logins >> >> But I am honestly not really happy with any of them. =9AContinuously >> polling log files for regex hits seems...well crude. =9AJust to give you >> an idea of what I mean, here were some of the issues I had. The >> sshd-scan.sh script allows IPs to be reinstated, but the timing is >> dependent on how frequently you rotate logs. =9Asshguard has a pretty >> website, but I can't actually find much useful documentation on how to >> configure it. =9Afail2ban looks like it might work with sufficient work, >> but the defaults are terrible. =9ABy default, every time an IP is >> reinstated, all IPs are reinstated. =9ANot to mention, at present I >> can't seem to get it to trigger any hits. >> >> I suppose I could keep shopping, but the truth is I just think polling >> log files is the wrong way to solve the problem. =9AAnything based on >> this approach is going to have a long latency and be highly dependent >> on the unspecified and unstable formatting of log files (see >> http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/HOWTO_Mac_OS_X_Server_(10.4) >> and the troubles an exclamation point can cause). >> >> I would much much rather do something like this: >> >> http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/block_brute_force_attacks= _with_iptables/ >> >> Does anyone know a way to do something similar with ipfw? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> =9A=9AJim >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 20:42:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723F5106564A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B55F8FC08 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:42:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwn22 with SMTP id 22so4474269wwn.1 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.176.142 with SMTP id b14mr3109728wem.70.1316464954757; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (did75-17-88-165-130-96.fbx.proxad.net. [88.165.130.96]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m2sm27599089wbp.5.2011.09.19.13.42.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:42:33 -0700 (PDT) References: <946851316461449@web97.yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:42:28 +0200 To: James Strother Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: limit number of ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:42:36 -0000 Again if your goal is to protect against attacks, you might want to look at s= shguard from the ports. Otherwise I believe there's a sshd_config directive to limit the number of c= oncurrent connections from a single source IP On 19 Sep 2011, at 22:02, James Strother wrote: > That's an interesting project, I hadn't realized port knocking had > become so easy to use. >=20 > Unfortunately, for this particular server, I need to be able to > provide a simple way for (a very limited number of) users to login > into the system remotely using a variety of OS platforms. So I don't > think port knocking is a good fit here. >=20 > Thanks, > Jim >=20 >=20 >=20 > 2011/9/19 =D0=93=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8C=D0=B5=D0=B2 =D0=90=D0= =BB=D0=B5=D0=BA=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B4=D1=80 : >> If your target is protect freebsd box from bruting passwords from inet ma= ybe security/knockd will help you? >>=20 >> 19.09.2011, 23:05, "James Strother" : >>> Does anyone know a good way of limiting the number of ssh attempts >>> from a single IP address? >>>=20 >>> I found the following website, which describes a variety of approaches: >>>=20 >>> http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/Block_repeated_illegal_or_failed_SS= H_logins >>>=20 >>> But I am honestly not really happy with any of them. Continuously >>> polling log files for regex hits seems...well crude. Just to give you >>> an idea of what I mean, here were some of the issues I had. The >>> sshd-scan.sh script allows IPs to be reinstated, but the timing is >>> dependent on how frequently you rotate logs. sshguard has a pretty >>> website, but I can't actually find much useful documentation on how to >>> configure it. fail2ban looks like it might work with sufficient work, >>> but the defaults are terrible. By default, every time an IP is >>> reinstated, all IPs are reinstated. Not to mention, at present I >>> can't seem to get it to trigger any hits. >>>=20 >>> I suppose I could keep shopping, but the truth is I just think polling >>> log files is the wrong way to solve the problem. Anything based on >>> this approach is going to have a long latency and be highly dependent >>> on the unspecified and unstable formatting of log files (see >>> http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/HOWTO_Mac_OS_X_Server_(10.4) >>> and the troubles an exclamation point can cause). >>>=20 >>> I would much much rather do something like this: >>>=20 >>> http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/block_brute_force_attacks= _with_iptables/ >>>=20 >>> Does anyone know a way to do something similar with ipfw? >>>=20 >>> Thanks in advance, >>> Jim >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 20:46:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114DC106566B for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:46:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1498FC16 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (188-221-77-161.zone12.bethere.co.uk [188.221.77.161]) (authenticated bits=0) by ifdnrg30.ifdnrg.com (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8JKI3mQ002875; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:18:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4E77A37A.3090406@ifdnrg.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:18:02 +0100 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.2; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Strother References: <946851316461449@web97.yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limit number of ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:46:01 -0000 2011/9/19 çÒÉÇÏÒØÅ× áÌÅËÓÁÎÄÒ : >> If your target is protect freebsd box from bruting passwords from inet maybe security/knockd will help you? >> >> 19.09.2011, 23:05, "James Strother": >>> Does anyone know a good way of limiting the number of ssh attempts >>> from a single IP address? Hi James, (not what you asked obv,) in my experience running ssh on a high port cuts the amount of unwanted ssh connections to approximately zero, in fact i got a surprise when seeing a sec log from a box which i hadn't done this for Paul. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 20:57:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1366E106566B for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FC58FC0A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.98]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D487516B52B; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:57:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:56:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:56:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.6dollardialup To: Brandon Kuczenski In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using ports and packages together (or, how do I get mod_php5 ? ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:57:12 -0000 On Mon, 19 Sep 2011, Brandon Kuczenski wrote: > I'm concerned that, if I have some packages built from ports and some > installed from the release, that the system will become unstable if things > get too out of sync. I'd like to say it doesn't matter, but ... If you are using packages from the time of 8.2 release, you almost certainly will have trouble using the current (not CURRENT) ports tree for 8.2. With a fresh ports tree study UPDATING. There is quite a lot of reading since 8.2 release. Ruby rolled forth and back, perl has rolled forward etc. You may do better upgrading with packages first before recompiling things you need to recompile. In principle there is nothing wrong with having mixed self-compiled ports and packages. THE MAIN PERILS are letting the ports tree get out of sync with itself. This could happen, for example, if you cvsup and it stops (or is stopped) before it is finished (to deal with that example, redo cvsup and be sure it completes before doing anything with ports); or getting the package database snafued which can happen if you or the electric company interrupt the database update process. > Am I incorrect? i.e. should I just go ahead and install libtool 2.4 from the > port? I don't see this discussed explicitly in the handbook. The handbook should not have much to say about this. Compiling ports yourself or using packages should leave you in exactly the same place (unless of course you make changes when you compile). The system cannot tell where the binary came from. We have the habit of saying "port" when we compile from the ports tree and "package" when install a package - but they are really the same thing at a slightly deeper level. Packages ARE ports. /usr/ports/UPDATING is the key document. I don't see any notes since 8.2 release to suggest libtool backward compatibility problems have cropped up since then. Since more things depend on libtool than you can shake a stick at it is likely to a long time for pkgdb to edit the dependencies in the usual way. Investigating -s might help. PS: installing mod_php is an option which I think is called WITH_APACHE. To be absolutely sure it is set, run make config in php5 port. The config will be saved and some port maintenance tools may assume it is right without prompting you. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 20:12:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6681065672 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mr.festin@yandex.ru) Received: from forward5.mail.yandex.net (forward5.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBC28FC0A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web60.yandex.ru (web60.yandex.ru [77.88.46.51]) by forward5.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 3E7871201548; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:12:07 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1316463127; bh=xhP2/sG2t3gl5CpUsvuAN8Qs/NjCTTK9VJkOamlDemA=; h=From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id: Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=gBAXvRZu4JsbqRmi07f2cBnwBMLb/KtZqmiI1yxzUoYBWSxYTb2i/y3KTQG7zzw+Q s8aDCiFKkvzZ5kDGVdQDXOLkzYCwrHW9BXwMHDtQ0I/ELTInz1rGgt1WxgAyx+FBVk RNAaL6ZLp0qOA1xq9W5WD5U9zKOTbDOyM3G7zppA= Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web60.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 1A01E2E007B; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:12:07 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1316463127; bh=xhP2/sG2t3gl5CpUsvuAN8Qs/NjCTTK9VJkOamlDemA=; h=From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id: Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=gBAXvRZu4JsbqRmi07f2cBnwBMLb/KtZqmiI1yxzUoYBWSxYTb2i/y3KTQG7zzw+Q s8aDCiFKkvzZ5kDGVdQDXOLkzYCwrHW9BXwMHDtQ0I/ELTInz1rGgt1WxgAyx+FBVk RNAaL6ZLp0qOA1xq9W5WD5U9zKOTbDOyM3G7zppA= X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Received: from 93-80-220-139.broadband.corbina.ru (93-80-220-139.broadband.corbina.ru [93.80.220.139]) by web60.yandex.ru with HTTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:12:04 +0400 From: =?koi8-r?B?59LJx8/S2MXXIOHMxcvTwc7E0g==?= To: James Strother In-Reply-To: References: <946851316461449@web97.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <54071316463124@web60.yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:12:04 +0400 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:21:15 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limit number of ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:12:10 -0000 Standard inetd(8) has many options including limiting connections based on IP-address. Can it help in this case? 20.09.2011, 00:02, "James Strother" : > That's an interesting project, I hadn't realized port knocking had > become so easy to use. > > Unfortunately, for this particular server, I need to be able to > provide a simple way for (a very limited number of) users to login > into the system remotely using a variety of OS platforms. šSo I don't > think port knocking is a good fit here. > > Thanks, > ššJim > > 2011/9/19 çÒÉÇÏÒØÅ× áÌÅËÓÁÎÄÒ : > >> šIf your target is protect freebsd box from bruting passwords from inet maybe security/knockd will help you? >> >> š19.09.2011, 23:05, "James Strother" : >>> šDoes anyone know a good way of limiting the number of ssh attempts >>> šfrom a single IP address? >>> >>> šI found the following website, which describes a variety of approaches: >>> >>> šhttp://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/Block_repeated_illegal_or_failed_SSH_logins >>> >>> šBut I am honestly not really happy with any of them. šContinuously >>> špolling log files for regex hits seems...well crude. šJust to give you >>> šan idea of what I mean, here were some of the issues I had. The >>> šsshd-scan.sh script allows IPs to be reinstated, but the timing is >>> šdependent on how frequently you rotate logs. šsshguard has a pretty >>> šwebsite, but I can't actually find much useful documentation on how to >>> šconfigure it. šfail2ban looks like it might work with sufficient work, >>> šbut the defaults are terrible. šBy default, every time an IP is >>> šreinstated, all IPs are reinstated. šNot to mention, at present I >>> šcan't seem to get it to trigger any hits. >>> >>> šI suppose I could keep shopping, but the truth is I just think polling >>> šlog files is the wrong way to solve the problem. šAnything based on >>> šthis approach is going to have a long latency and be highly dependent >>> šon the unspecified and unstable formatting of log files (see >>> šhttp://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/HOWTO_Mac_OS_X_Server_(10.4) >>> šand the troubles an exclamation point can cause). >>> >>> šI would much much rather do something like this: >>> >>> šhttp://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/block_brute_force_attacks_with_iptables/ >>> >>> šDoes anyone know a way to do something similar with ipfw? >>> >>> šThanks in advance, >>> šššJim >>> š_______________________________________________ >>> šfreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> šhttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> šTo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 21:42:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D26B1065670 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBC68FC16 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.3]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20110919214200.PHJT8898.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:42:00 +0100 Received: from [94.168.169.90] (helo=mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R5lbD-0000ZY-Vq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:42:00 +0100 Received: from mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl ([::1]) by mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl ([::1]) with mapi; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:41:57 +0100 From: Graeme Dargie To: 'FreeBSD Questions' Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:41:56 +0100 Thread-Topic: System locking up. Thread-Index: Acx2TmXt+QjyExEqSKOpsz46/ZVQJQAxm8zw Message-ID: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B52344BE4832@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> References: <0EE458C34045A44DBC2CA2DC5CEB42B52344BE4831@mercury.universe.galaxy.lcl> <81C853D1253C1A5E1B35675C@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <81C853D1253C1A5E1B35675C@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=R50lirqlHffDPPkwUlkuVa99MrvKdVWo//yz83qex8g= c=1 sm=0 a=OMdUhd4NiskA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=emV9shKGDjmfVjpx4iUA:9 a=RAEYCqAKuykaKWZyHEIA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=hcUHNGds_dbiNCwf:21 a=E4oLFQLp5cjuydk4:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Subject: RE: System locking up. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:42:02 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Staal Sent: 18 September 2011 22:59 To: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org' Subject: Re: System locking up. --As of September 18, 2011 2:29:20 PM +0100, Graeme Dargie is alleged to=20 have said: > I have a system that is being problematic, I suspect but I cannot say for > sure it is maybe related to ZFS as I have a fairly large ZFS pool on the > machine. The system will just lock up, local console does not respond to > the keyboard, num lock still changes the led on the keyboard, the system > still responds to pings but you cannot ssh to the unit. The behaviour is > random the system can be running for 50 days plus with no issues then > suddenly it enters this state, the error logs do not show anything. --As for the rest, it is mine. Where is your swap located? I've seen similar on a ZFS system with swap on= =20 ZFS, when running low on RAM. If that's the case, you can either put in=20 more RAM (so you don't need to use swap) or move swap to a dedicated=20 disk/partition, that's not under ZFS control. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " Swap is on the UFS boot disk, so it might be a heat/psu issue as previously= suggested. Regards Graeme From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 21:47:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77AB71065670 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jstrother9109@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f178.google.com (mail-wy0-f178.google.com [74.125.82.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2748FC16 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so7279056wyf.9 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:47:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BciMAk5bdiVQFJP9D0IMNO2cNHNvmK5V9ggaeidI6UQ=; b=A/vSJxflIujNEakgWihM+XrcoYCZEO5oq8f1JR2tV/g0nU+JcRPVQRGhPz+bIcr9Qw 93l8tICF6rAAT/5r3FQzBGepuwrqpPIjalq02U5UotW6UJ0OQjTVTsREJZ8DdFX9+eYD Ye1AdFwgKd3g6EL5G5vQFPh9Q011wXWJ2WSZs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.143.209 with SMTP id w17mr19679wbu.52.1316468821776; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.128.141 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:47:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <946851316461449@web97.yandex.ru> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:47:01 -0400 Message-ID: From: James Strother To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: limit number of ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:47:03 -0000 Wow, I'm glad I asked. This has been very helpful. @=E7=D2=C9=C7=CF=D2=D8=C5=D7 =E1=CC=C5=CB=D3=C1=CE=C4=D2 Thanks for the tip on inetd, that looks like it might just do the trick. @Paul Macdonald My main reason for looking into this was glancing through the logs on a server I just put online and seeing large numbers of unauthorized login attempts. Everything so far is highly unsophisticated, but it did make me start to really think about the issue. I might put ssh onto a different port, that would at least stop the sort of fishing I am currently seeing. It's not clear if that would be "good enough." @Damien Fleuriot Have you had success with sshguard? Installed it from ports, but then I couldn't quite figure out how to configure it. To be honest, I didn't give it much of a chance before I moved on to the next thing, so if you've had good luck then I should probably give it another shot. I did flip through sshd_config, but as far as I can tell it is only possible to limit the number of concurrent connections. It might take a little longer, but I'm concerned it would still allow a malicious individual to sequentially brute-force a password. Thanks for all the responses. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 22:06:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240E81065674 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF678FC0C for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:06:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=q+93XNXfpLXv78MsIVQLEkBvYj5WTuU2+ze/SnLKdD4=; b=dWPe2IfpYDAarSz0/MtkcPQ7trJGSeKRv1BJt3pBxu2bgubGCUtuf43ty5K6obLyeeUYXGx3FUM1k1EfNaCxkPKT9x657XAQfJBpVXiGrXLQQtKyga/u0iGwCFXXLAk2FUWiViD5Dl21fiucaQxrA9KG5uskPI/H2e8wI9HgCe0= Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([76.240.47.196]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:05:40 -0700 Message-ID: <4E77BC99.1050400@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:05:13 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michel Talon References: <20110919193029.GA59781@lpthe.jussieu.fr> In-Reply-To: <20110919193029.GA59781@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2011 22:05:40.0719 (UTC) FILETIME=[44FC07F0:01CC7718] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: location of bsdinstall "welcome" dialog screen source X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:06:39 -0000 Michel Talon wrote: > Fbsd8 wrote: > >> When installing 9.0 from cd or dvd the first screen bsdinstall shows is >> the bsdinstall welcome screen. I can not locate the source for this. >> Its not in >> /usr/sbin or /usr/libexec/bsdinstall/ >> >> Can someone please point it out? > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts/auto?rev=1.14 > > > Sorry if my post was not clear. The 9.0 cd and dvd have bsdinstall in /usr/sbin and /usr/libexec/bsdinstall/. After the install is completed the H.D also contains the same directories. /usr/sbin/bsdinstall is a script which sets some bsdinstall variables that launch the different install functions from /usr/libexec/bsdinstall/. This whole process starts with the keymap process as coded in the auto script. Now what I am looking for is the script that has the bsdinstall welcome screen dialog in it. It is displayed before the keymap screen is displayed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 22:08:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CD1106566B for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204CF8FC1C for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:08:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8JLqWaU021999 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:52:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4E77B99D.2040807@tundraware.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:52:29 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Strother References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:52:32 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: p8JLqWaU021999 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limit number of ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:08:11 -0000 On 9/19/2011 2:05 PM, James Strother wrote: > Does anyone know a good way of limiting the number of ssh attempts > from a single IP address? > > I found the following website, which describes a variety of approaches: > > http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/Block_repeated_illegal_or_failed_SSH_logins > > > But I am honestly not really happy with any of them. Continuously > polling log files for regex hits seems...well crude. Just to give you > an idea of what I mean, here were some of the issues I had. The > sshd-scan.sh script allows IPs to be reinstated, but the timing is > dependent on how frequently you rotate logs. sshguard has a pretty > website, but I can't actually find much useful documentation on how to > configure it. fail2ban looks like it might work with sufficient work, > but the defaults are terrible. By default, every time an IP is > reinstated, all IPs are reinstated. Not to mention, at present I > can't seem to get it to trigger any hits. > > I suppose I could keep shopping, but the truth is I just think polling > log files is the wrong way to solve the problem. Anything based on > this approach is going to have a long latency and be highly dependent > on the unspecified and unstable formatting of log files (see > http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/HOWTO_Mac_OS_X_Server_(10.4) > and the troubles an exclamation point can cause). > > I would much much rather do something like this: > > http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/block_brute_force_attacks_with_iptables/ > > Does anyone know a way to do something similar with ipfw? > > > Thanks in advance, > Jim > _______________________________________________ > They cannot attack what they cannot see. That's why I wrote this: http://www.tundraware.com/Software/tperimeter/ It allows you to restrict access to a fixed set of hosts (via tcpwrappers) but to dynamically request access from any host (via wrapper rewriting) so long as you have credentials to do so. The current version has a worst-case latency of 5 minutes from the time you remotely request ssh access be granted until it actually is. I am working toward an update that will grant the request immediately. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 22:16:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE7E106566C for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:16:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from kane.compar.com (kane.compar.com [207.236.25.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401A68FC0A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hermes (CPE002129cfd480-CM001ac3584898.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.236.129.198]) by kane.compar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD3415B28C1; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:04:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matt Emmerton" To: "'James Strother'" , References: <946851316461449@web97.yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:58:08 -0400 Message-ID: <002e01cc7717$3e362230$baa26690$@on.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acx3FpWdtzDSNCnaSAiElvA00ic/RgAAGesg Content-Language: en-us Cc: Subject: RE: limit number of ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:16:58 -0000 Moving ssh to another port has solved the problem for me. I had used sshguard in the past, but was always leery of locking myself = out. Regards, Matt Emmerton -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of James Strother Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 5:47 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limit number of ssh connections Wow, I'm glad I asked. This has been very helpful. @=E7=D2=C9=C7=CF=D2=D8=C5=D7 =E1=CC=C5=CB=D3=C1=CE=C4=D2 Thanks for the tip on inetd, that looks like it might just do the trick. @Paul Macdonald My main reason for looking into this was glancing through the logs on a server I just put online and seeing large numbers of unauthorized login attempts. Everything so far is highly unsophisticated, but it did make me start to really think about the issue. I might put ssh onto a different port, that would at least stop the sort of fishing I am currently seeing. It's not clear if that would be "good enough." @Damien Fleuriot Have you had success with sshguard? Installed it from ports, but then I couldn't quite figure out how to configure it. To be honest, I didn't give it much of a chance before I moved on to the next thing, so if you've had good luck then I should probably give it another shot. I did flip through sshd_config, but as far as I can tell it is only possible to limit the number of concurrent connections. It might take a little longer, but I'm concerned it would still allow a malicious individual to sequentially brute-force a password. Thanks for all the responses. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 22:37:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E17A1065676 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:37:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suxor@ich.ms) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44C38FC12 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:37:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp07.web.de ( [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EB9197876A4 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:19:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [178.0.37.33] (helo=[192.168.0.42]) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.110 #2) id 1R5mBz-0007M6-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:19:59 +0200 From: suxor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:19:50 +0200 Message-ID: <1316470791.2848.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: suxor@ich.ms X-Sender: neo_42@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+6zAvsG6iZSq/d1nXYwDsErvXC2cvXFGw1tB/b wuFgfk99BVhemynJTQJDXwjiC30shBUwTe6cmZXN0lyIh7nuuE v6Sye5GPo= Subject: Re: limit number of ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:37:14 -0000 > Does anyone know a good way of limiting the number of ssh attempts > from a single IP address? > > I found the following website, which describes a variety of approaches: > > http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/Block_repeated_illegal_or_failed_SSH_logins > > > But I am honestly not really happy with any of them. Continuously > polling log files for regex hits seems...well crude. Just to give you > an idea of what I mean, here were some of the issues I had. The > sshd-scan.sh script allows IPs to be reinstated, but the timing is > dependent on how frequently you rotate logs. sshguard has a pretty > website, but I can't actually find much useful documentation on how to > configure it. fail2ban looks like it might work with sufficient work, > but the defaults are terrible. By default, every time an IP is > reinstated, all IPs are reinstated. Not to mention, at present I > can't seem to get it to trigger any hits. > > I suppose I could keep shopping, but the truth is I just think polling > log files is the wrong way to solve the problem. Anything based on > this approach is going to have a long latency and be highly dependent > on the unspecified and unstable formatting of log files (see > http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/HOWTO_Mac_OS_X_Server_(10.4) > and the troubles an exclamation point can cause). > > I would much much rather do something like this: > > http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/block_brute_force_attacks_with_iptables/ > > Does anyone know a way to do something similar with ipfw? > > > Thanks in advance, > Jim Maybe you mean something like this?! http://home.nuug.no/~peter/pf/en/bruteforce.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 19 23:14:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD25106564A; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:14:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910A48FC15; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:14:08 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=2cF2FWFsVV3NgggXXUMAduHV1hvTprV9TE8KuDp9pgE=; b=YGhrPCX6+0Dmpv8BC2nEuKFrVTrtF4E1SlDAbQjOBHHH8VDBaB1fM9/bYNPG8xC8yRm8uWG9tqubQUZVA5hpSgGb/7EEd0vwwVR32mh9usLwZr/UHrlPCnGOj/a0blZFtTGQ0TAq5gOKFUKjqAejxixdniINigmZD/4v+EOCKXE= Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([76.240.47.196]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:14:08 -0700 Message-ID: <4E77CCC2.1000103@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:14:10 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nathan Whitehorn References: <4E71F647.2050007@a1poweruser.com> <4E7453CB.1040908@freebsd.org> <4E74C9B7.2090901@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4E74C9B7.2090901@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2011 23:14:08.0544 (UTC) FILETIME=[D5706200:01CC7721] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 9.0 bata2 & keymap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:14:09 -0000 > Now I must point out that I tested hitting the cancel button in the > kbdmap command. It worked in that no keymap= statement was inserted into > /etc/rc.conf but it must also make some other changes some where else in > the system because if you do select an entry from the kbdmap database > and them remove the keymap= statement that was inserted into > /etc/rc.conf and then reboot the system, it will hang on reboot. > > Another point of interest is when selecting "cancel for the default > keyboard" still results in the block of 9 keys above the arrow keys to > not function. Issuing the "man cmd_name" command does display the man > page, but the {Page up, Page down keys } don't work. Also when using the > "ee" edit command the {delete, Page up, Page down don't work. There may > be more system utility commands with the same flaw. > > This may indicate that the default keyboard map in kbdmap command has > changed, is not the same as in previous releases or some thing else in > the 9.0 system has changed. In either case this needs research. > > Joe > I continued to research this problem and found the cause. The content of 9.0 /etc/ttys has changed, (IE; cons25 is now xtern). I have some changes in ttys on 8.2 and I just copied that file over to 9.0 without looking at the content. The block of 9 keys above the arrow keys now work correctly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 00:11:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662ED1065673 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from mail.mroute.net (lax-gw12.mailroute.net [199.89.0.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499FB8FC13 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lax-gw12.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 227463270716; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:11:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by lax-gw12.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C693270715; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:11:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6F24A3FF8; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:11:29 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: =?utf-8?B?0JPRgNC40LPQvtGA0YzQtdCyINCQ0LvQtdC60YHQsNC90LTRgA==?= References: <946851316461449@web97.yandex.ru> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.18.13.1; tzolkin = 13 Imix; haab = 9 Chen Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:11:28 -0700 In-Reply-To: <946851316461449@web97.yandex.ru> (=?utf-8?B?ItCT0YDQuNCz0L4=?= =?utf-8?B?0YDRjNC10LIg0JDQu9C10LrRgdCw0L3QtNGAIidz?= message of "Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:44:09 +0400") Message-ID: <86k494t6mn.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: James Strother , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limit number of ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:11:32 -0000 >>>>> "=D0=93=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8C=D0=B5=D0=B2" =3D=3D =D0= =93=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8C=D0=B5=D0=B2 =D0=90=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0= =BA=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B4=D1=80 writes: =D0=93=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8C=D0=B5=D0=B2> If your target is p= rotect freebsd box from bruting passwords =D0=93=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8C=D0=B5=D0=B2> from inet maybe sec= urity/knockd will help you? Portknocking adds only a dozen bits or so to your password. Do you really think it helps to go from a 1024-bit key to a 1036-bit? In other words, Portknocking belongs in the "security for dummies" pile right along with "turning off your SSID announce" and "use MAC address filtering" when people talk about wifi "security". All three are useless and give you a false sense of having "increased" security. The real security is disable plaintext passwords. Then no amount of bruteforce will ever get in. --=20 Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 00:12:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E25106567A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from mail.mroute.net (lax-gw09.mailroute.net [199.89.0.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9018FC1C for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:12:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lax-gw09.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DE8328027; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:12:15 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by MailRoute Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [208.79.95.2]) by lax-gw09.mroute.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4827D1384ED; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:12:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2A5B23FFC; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:12:14 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Paul Macdonald References: <946851316461449@web97.yandex.ru> <4E77A37A.3090406@ifdnrg.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.18.13.1; tzolkin = 13 Imix; haab = 9 Chen Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:12:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: <4E77A37A.3090406@ifdnrg.com> (Paul Macdonald's message of "Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:18:02 +0100") Message-ID: <86fwjst6ld.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: James Strother , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: limit number of ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:12:15 -0000 >>>>> "Paul" == Paul Macdonald writes: Paul> in my experience running ssh on a high port cuts the amount of unwanted ssh Paul> connections to approximately zero, in fact i got a surprise when seeing a sec Paul> log from a box which i hadn't done this for I run sshd on 443 (for firewall-bending reasons), and the only connections I see there are people trying to break into the web. Never an actual sshd hit. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 00:20:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69851065670; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590FC8FC18; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadk27 with SMTP id k27so9236377iad.13 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:20:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9UCBojVnLKF7TVrKcc4R9mc+mlFAMPvz9z55npxMAwQ=; b=j2fHfKWxU6cs6gVnnsWiHYNtne17KQW3TSDhINorutEKuP8jvKmP2GzowwQvmRk/Kd LgPz68xEq+QT1s4OhgztjglZ+8aYKJyr5TGiORLezpNYyjzLY0GgkcsaWACtV4VEioqU y5TXYae3tJFW+DmnwJrvjj1LNvftpV1xDz2tA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.159.130 with SMTP id l2mr216778icx.203.1316477901535; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.177.199 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:18:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E77CCC2.1000103@a1poweruser.com> References: <4E71F647.2050007@a1poweruser.com> <4E7453CB.1040908@freebsd.org> <4E74C9B7.2090901@a1poweruser.com> <4E77CCC2.1000103@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:18:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Fbsd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Nathan Whitehorn , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 9.0 bata2 & keymap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:20:56 -0000 > > I continued to research this problem and found the cause. > The content of 9.0 /etc/ttys has changed, (IE; cons25 is now xtern). > I have some changes in ttys on 8.2 and I just copied that file over to 9.0 > without looking at the content. The block of 9 keys above the arrow keys now > work correctly. > > I saw the keyboard layout and there are many :(, I don't even know if I have a standard 101/105 US keyboard. When I press up arrow, I get an 8 on the screen :( I was going to ask on another thread/create a new thread, but I guess this one is the correct one to ask? Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 00:57:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8262D106566C for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:57:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 422558FC0A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20017 invoked by uid 0); 20 Sep 2011 00:57:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2011 00:57:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=Nz5sBm2hZMuM+lxTSY8Lb876l5edoG6X9Pyu1y4BePM=; b=W3Dtyaf1k9S4Xn0m6il2nt6j8CjjbIah75dso7BhQDcMOB6nAdp1SAPXDkpkJR6Ugf8Iuw+PXrQf79f/y6ql1rEghsAMlUIPCvR2LwD1aDuZz8lixVeAzM4LahElMnA2; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R5oe5-0005Ys-RF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:57:10 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:56:58 -0600 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:56:58 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110920005658.GA67327@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <946851316461449@web97.yandex.ru> <86k494t6mn.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86k494t6mn.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: limit number of ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:57:11 -0000 --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 05:11:28PM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "=D0=93=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8C=D0=B5=D0=B2" =3D=3D =D0= =93=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8C=D0=B5=D0=B2 =D0=90=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0= =BA=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B4=D1=80 writes: >=20 > =D0=93=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8C=D0=B5=D0=B2> If your target is= protect freebsd box from bruting passwords > =D0=93=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8C=D0=B5=D0=B2> from inet maybe s= ecurity/knockd will help you? >=20 > Portknocking adds only a dozen bits or so to your password. Do you > really think it helps to go from a 1024-bit key to a 1036-bit? In other > words, Portknocking belongs in the "security for dummies" pile right > along with "turning off your SSID announce" and "use MAC address > filtering" when people talk about wifi "security". All three are > useless and give you a false sense of having "increased" security. I'd say, rather, that it's useful in deflecting the drive-by, casual cracking attempts, but not as real security against a more sophisticated attack. It's nice to have cleaner logging sometimes -- which is the real benefit of such techniques, rather than security per se. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk535NkACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWkLACfbvIsu2MDTvG3nRPHhgJ6ZOiE mcIAoMbfdYOj/ld3Hn6SOSHlxKvHRs3J =1JOU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dxnq1zWXvFF0Q93v-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 02:03:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E71C106564A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:03:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B779F8FC13 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:03:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 20489641 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:03:04 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8K233hK071130 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:03:04 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p8K233jB071129 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:03:03 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:03:03 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110920020303.GA70638@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110128081931.GA89151@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110128081931.GA89151@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 Subject: Re: Cannot remove filesystem ACLs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:03:07 -0000 Victor Sudakov wrote: > > I don't understand why I cannot completely remove the ACLs from a > directory. Please look: [dd] > > Why are the "+" sign and the mask entry still there? How do I get rid > of them completely? It may seem a bit radical but it does the job: find /some/dir | xargs rmextattr system posix1e.acl_access find /some/dir | xargs rmextattr system posix1e.acl_default -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 02:08:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF2D1065672 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E348FC16 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p8K27lTO056965 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:07:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:07:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201109200207.p8K27lTO056965@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <86fwjst6ld.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Subject: Re: limit number of ssh connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:08:22 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 19 19:12:32 2011 > From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) > To: Paul Macdonald > Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:12:14 -0700 > Cc: James Strother , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: limit number of ssh connections > > >>>>> "Paul" == Paul Macdonald writes: > > Paul> in my experience running ssh on a high port cuts the amount of > Paul> unwanted ssh connections to approximately zero, in fact i got a > Paul> surprise when seeing a sec log from a box which i hadn't done this > Paul> for > > I run sshd on 443 (for firewall-bending reasons), and the only > connections I see there are people trying to break into the web. Never > an actual sshd hit. :) A wise man said: "this belongs in the "security for dummies" pile right along with "turning off your SSID announce" and "use MAC address filtering" when people talk about wifi "security". All three are useless and give you a false sense of having "increased" security. IT is worthy of note that 'merely' running sshd on an 'unconventional' port provides _less_ of an increase in security than portknocking does. :) That said, _I_ also run sshd on the "well-known port" for unrelated services. *NOT* because I have a belief it provides any increase in security -- it _doesn't_ -- but simply to eliminate the script-kiddie 'doorknob rattling' 'clutter' from the logs. Making it far easier to see a truely 'targeted' attempt. 'Clutter elimination' makes it -- *or* portknocking -- "worth doing" even though neither provide any "measurable" increase in 'real' security. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 02:21:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29424106566B for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:21:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7017A8FC12 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:21:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 20489784 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:21:49 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8K2Ln4u071424 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:21:49 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p8K2Lnq8071423 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:21:49 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:21:49 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110920022148.GB70638@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110909062121.GA28440@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4E5EF2B00027F723@> <20110916035704.GD92792@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20110916115721.2c9859b2@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110916115721.2c9859b2@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 Subject: Re: Need an audio multicasting solution X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:21:52 -0000 RW wrote: > > > > You can use videolan / vlc. It allows you to multicast video too. > > > In September 2011 BSD Magazine you have some examples about that. > > > > I like vlc on Linux/Windows machines. But installing it to a streaming > > server is a pain. Even if you disable all options in "make config", it > > still tries to build scores of dependencies including some components > > of the X Window system. Not nice. > > did you try setting WITH_SERVER_ONLY? Actually, setting WITH_SERVER_ONLY only sets 4 options WITHOUT_LUA=yes WITHOUT_QT4=yes WITH_RUNROOT=yes WITHOUT_XCB=yes which I have set anyway. The number of dependencies is still appalling. In fact, I have found a solution with ffmpeg, the example command lines are: ffmpeg -i file.mp3 -acodec copy -f rtp rtp://239.8.8.8:5000 -re ffmpeg -f oss -i /dev/dsp -acodec mp2 -f rtp rtp://239.8.8.8:5000 -re ffmpeg should be compiled WITH_LAME. Multicast stream playback has been tested with vlc (Windows XP, Fedora Linux) and mplayer (FreeBSD 8). In more detail in Russian: http://victor-sudakov.dreamwidth.org/68437.html http://victor-sudakov.dreamwidth.org/68975.html http://victor-sudakov.dreamwidth.org/69243.html -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 04:33:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31D3106564A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 04:33:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0918FC1B for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 04:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31369 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2011 04:33:23 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-120.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.120]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Sep 2011 04:33:23 -0000 Message-ID: <4E781792.8090803@speakeasy.net> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:33:22 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110120 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eighner References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Brandon Kuczenski , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using ports and packages together (or, how do I get mod_php5 ? ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 04:33:23 -0000 On 09/19/11 13:56, Lars Eighner wrote: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011, Brandon Kuczenski wrote: > >> I'm concerned that, if I have some packages built from ports and some >> installed from the release, that the system will become unstable if >> things get too out of sync. > I noticed only recently that there are now packages on FTP in a folder called packages-8-stable. I am not sure how often these are built. I expect that the entire ports tree is built much like it is during a release, except at some later point in time. I would expect that those ports are all "dependency consistent" with each other to the maximum extent possible. I also prefer packages to ports, but there are a few updates to ports that I want now (xorg, xfce, rhythmbox), but I really don't want to try 9.0 when it becomes a release. I plan to upgrade my packages to 8-stable from this directory in a couple weeks. Maybe this policy will work for you. Later, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 04:35:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55380106566C for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 04:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3558FC14 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 04:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11919 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2011 04:35:22 -0000 Received: from s6.stradamotorsports.com (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.124]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Sep 2011 04:35:22 -0000 Message-ID: <4E78180A.5020601@speakeasy.net> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:35:22 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110120 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eighner References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Brandon Kuczenski , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using ports and packages together (or, how do I get mod_php5 ? ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 04:35:23 -0000 On 09/19/11 13:56, Lars Eighner wrote: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011, Brandon Kuczenski wrote: > >> I'm concerned that, if I have some packages built from ports and some >> installed from the release, that the system will become unstable if >> things get too out of sync. > Doh, I just read the handbook. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/packages-using.html ** If you want to force pkg_add(1) to download FreeBSD 8-STABLE packages, set PACKAGESITE to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-stable/Latest/. Later, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 05:48:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B831065670 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay001.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay001.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25888FC0C for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:48:36 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvcGAJgmeE7DDR9Z/2dsb2JhbABCmRyPHoIUHDtdJYgwlWOfXYYZYASTS5Ew Received: from 89.31-13-195.static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.89]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 20 Sep 2011 07:38:01 +0200 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:37:08 +0200 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:48:37 -0000 Hello, I've installed Firefox36 from ports, it installed without a problem but it does not launch. In other words, there's no firefox file on my system. Had it installed before and working, then to clean out the system with unnecessary ports, I removed all ports and reinstalled only what is necessary. Somehow now I can't get firefox to work. The installation runs through cleanly, but when I try to run firefox, the system just responds with 'command not found' fabry@desmo 7:27 % pkg_info | grep firefox firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla afabry@desmo 7:28 % firefox firefox: Command not found. What could be the problem, where could I start looking? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 06:01:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3146F106564A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 06:01:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CDE8FC0C for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 06:01:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8K61qI7049886; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:01:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p8K61q4v049883; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:01:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:01:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "Alain G. Fabry" In-Reply-To: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Message-ID: References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 20 Sep 2011 00:01:52 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 06:01:55 -0000 On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > Hello, > > I've installed Firefox36 from ports, it installed without a problem but it does not launch. In other words, there's no firefox file on my system. > Had it installed before and working, then to clean out the system with unnecessary ports, I removed all ports and reinstalled only what is necessary. > Somehow now I can't get firefox to work. The installation runs through cleanly, but when I try to run firefox, the system just responds with 'command not found' > > fabry@desmo 7:27 % pkg_info | grep firefox > firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > afabry@desmo 7:28 % firefox > firefox: Command not found. > > What could be the problem, where could I start looking? See #3: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/interrupted.html Firefox 3.6 is relatively old, ports has 6.0.2. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 08:04:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2014106564A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281F48FC14 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8K84SXf043260 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:04:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8K84SXf043260 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1316505869; bh=RFBO8JikodCHozLjjdoZLDqxQE1u4rjLMj66cnfe+cw=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E784905.1080007@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2020=20Sep=202011=2009:04:21=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/2 0110902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Rafael=20NAV AZA=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Su bject:=20Re:=20OpenLDAP=20+=20CARP|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.1|OpenPGP:=20id= 3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1 =3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boun dary=3D"------------enigBC71ECEB3BA396E531E6E626"; b=SmH5i8PU+S6buqZBNQYYCtmtRwVALDxT4CBkgj2tqcupflhF6gyEOW4U13I+EnGp+ pJGMdAKQY+TkrzhAmVPJBkym2ifNzk2EsC4o5o5uJT/ByHn0PLBqUDVNwTEjRgGyBb v5KFnPyJl5X5PxPiI32Ye464H/ASj1x67MErD85s= Message-ID: <4E784905.1080007@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:04:21 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rafael NAVAZA References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBC71ECEB3BA396E531E6E626" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenLDAP + CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:04:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBC71ECEB3BA396E531E6E626 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19/09/2011 15:54, Rafael NAVAZA wrote: > Is there a way to setup an OpenLDAP HA cluster (intersite multimaster) = with CARP on FreeBSD ? Hmmm... So long as both the LDAP servers are on the same network segment, and so long as they have separate addresses for their replication channel, then I can't see why that wouldn't work. However, LDAP, by its nature has a failover capability built in. You can just list several LDAP servers in your ldap.conf and each will be tried in turn until you get an answer. Or put a comma separated list of several servers into a ldap:/// or ldaps:/// style URI. There's also a way you can use SRV records with LDAP -- that gives you weighted load distribution over a number of servers. See RFC 3088. Note that not all LDAP clients support this, and its still only an experimental service. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigBC71ECEB3BA396E531E6E626 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk54SQwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxyCACeOrj6Fv58hWyESlgEt0bgt8Lc n5MAnRk6byR6F4N52y8+sUM7/6j0TGu6 =xOdp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBC71ECEB3BA396E531E6E626-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 08:23:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F371106564A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6727@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [204.127.217.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1E78FC19 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:23:20 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:23:19 +0000 (GMT) X-Comment: Sending client does not conform to RFC822 minimum requirements X-Comment: Date has been added by Maillennium Received: from localhost (adsl-72-147-183-55.sdf.bellsouth.net[72.147.183.55]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20110920082317H0100n3jv5e>; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:23:19 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [72.147.183.55] From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Message-Id: <20110920082320.8F371106564A@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:23:20 -0000 I too had the problem of "Command not found" after freshly installing something from ports, but I thought that was a peculiarity of FreeBSD 9.0-BETA1 and 2. I was going to post this question to freebsd-current list. For instance, if I typed "which lynx", it was not found, but was found if I ran ls /usr/bin/local/l* and it also ran if I typed /usr/bin/local/lynx Software freshly installed from ports would be normally accessible after the next reboot. After getting more ports built, I no longer had that problem. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 08:23:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B27106568B for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:23:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DF18FC1B for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8K8NSNb043548 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:23:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8K8NSNb043548 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1316507009; bh=V2+DIqQdqW1s5nCtWLmBlSZ7WA9r2a/rbWkpC73AoOE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E784D79.8030707@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2020=20Sep=202011=2009:23:21=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/2 0110902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20"Jason=20C.= 20Wells"=20|CC:=20Lars=20Eighner=20,=20=0D=0A=20Brandon=20Kuczenski=20,=0D=0A=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Usi ng=20ports=20and=20packages=20together=20(or,=20how=20do=20I=20get =20mod_php5=0D=0A=20?=20)|References:=20=20=20<4E781792.8090803@speakeasy.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<4E781 792.8090803@speakeasy.net>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.1|OpenPGP:=20 id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-s ha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20b oundary=3D"------------enig1EBD7D505E362C0E4F074FC0"; b=ZCfM+wujOp/4FzbY2PmkqfZSaMrVe4SLlXHBIl4EwZoMvkt+O5TkmmANqPadUsqDU sOtVVJuhooPJVuB+yIEeTvEQ5XCg461rY466tUtUf/x9dJiaKUSmkOehCuGGwjfQ1N eoVCa5doNTEqQMmL2EVt5hfsFxWpQULsrnLZSJ54= Message-ID: <4E784D79.8030707@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:23:21 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jason C. Wells" References: <4E781792.8090803@speakeasy.net> In-Reply-To: <4E781792.8090803@speakeasy.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1EBD7D505E362C0E4F074FC0" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Brandon Kuczenski , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner Subject: Re: Using ports and packages together (or, how do I get mod_php5 ? ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:23:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1EBD7D505E362C0E4F074FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20/09/2011 05:33, Jason C. Wells wrote: > I noticed only recently that there are now packages on FTP in a folder > called packages-8-stable. I am not sure how often these are built. I > expect that the entire ports tree is built much like it is during a > release, except at some later point in time. I would expect that those= > ports are all "dependency consistent" with each other to the maximum > extent possible. 'Latest' packages are built for each updated port + OS version + architecture combination whenever resources are available on the build cluster. Typically that implies a delay of a few days or a week or so after the update hits the ports CVS. Yes, if you install the latest pkgs everything should still remain consistent -- but that means you should install all of the available updates: picking and choosing is the route to tears before bedtime[*]. Cheers, Matthew [*] Unless you know exactly what you're doing and understand how all the dependency relationships work. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig1EBD7D505E362C0E4F074FC0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk54TYAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxlfACePC6C1biaS0WEalYjrw99Z9OT R24An3cejQUa5FmxtiKjfa+RUkLIQ1uV =/WLZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1EBD7D505E362C0E4F074FC0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 08:27:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980C4106566C for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:27:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516DD8FC19 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R5vg6-0006yy-2i; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:27:49 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R5vfg-0007d0-HN; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:27:16 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8K8R7Zj066616; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:27:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p8K8R6NR066615; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:27:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:27:06 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20110920082705.GB28279@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Warren Block , "Alain G. Fabry" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: "Alain G. Fabry" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:27:57 -0000 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:01:52AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >I've installed Firefox36 from ports, it installed without a problem but it > >does not launch. In other words, there's no firefox file on my system. > >Had it installed before and working, then to clean out the system with > >unnecessary ports, I removed all ports and reinstalled only what is > >necessary. > >Somehow now I can't get firefox to work. The installation runs through > >cleanly, but when I try to run firefox, the system just responds with > >'command not found' > > > >fabry@desmo 7:27 % pkg_info | grep firefox > >firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > >afabry@desmo 7:28 % firefox > >firefox: Command not found. > > > >What could be the problem, where could I start looking? If you used www/firefox36 port, then the executable is firefox3. firefox is installed by www/firefox. > > See #3: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/interrupted.html > > Firefox 3.6 is relatively old, ports has 6.0.2. I use www/firefox36 on ia64, because www/firefox doesn't build. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 08:31:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2971065670 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71AB8FC13 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:31:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R5vjT-0001Sg-94; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:31:11 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R5vjS-0005oh-Rk; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:31:10 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8K8V9Yw066962; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:31:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p8K8V8RG066961; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:31:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:31:08 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Thomas Mueller Message-ID: <20110920083108.GA66647@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920082320.8F371106564A@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110920082320.8F371106564A@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:31:13 -0000 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 08:23:19AM +0000, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I too had the problem of "Command not found" after freshly installing something from ports, but I thought that was a peculiarity of FreeBSD 9.0-BETA1 and 2. > > I was going to post this question to freebsd-current list. > > For instance, if I typed "which lynx", it was not found, but was found if I ran > ls /usr/bin/local/l* > and it also ran if I typed > /usr/bin/local/lynx > > Software freshly installed from ports would be normally accessible after the next reboot. normally, no reboot required. In tcsh(1) you have to run "rehash". Or just lauch another xterm window, if in an X session. Of logout and login. You really shouldn't need to reboot. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 08:53:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD412106564A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:53:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E70A8FC14 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:53:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.80]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8339916B4BA; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 03:53:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 03:52:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 03:52:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.6dollardialup To: "Alain G. Fabry" In-Reply-To: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Message-ID: References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:53:28 -0000 On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > Hello, > > I've installed Firefox36 from ports, it installed without a problem but it > does not launch. In other words, there's no firefox file on my system. > Had it installed before and working, then to clean out the system with > unnecessary ports, I removed all ports and reinstalled only what is > necessary. Somehow now I can't get firefox to work. The installation > runs through cleanly, but when I try to run firefox, the system just > responds with 'command not found' > > fabry@desmo 7:27 % pkg_info | grep firefox > firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > afabry@desmo 7:28 % firefox > firefox: Command not found. > > What could be the problem, where could I start looking? what happens when you %which firefox3 ? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 09:22:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E861065670 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deepakk.jangid@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566318FC14 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxk36 with SMTP id 36so223369yxk.13 for ; 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z=Message-ID:=20<4E786601.5080608@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2020=20Sep=202011=2011:08:01=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/2 0110902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20deepak=20kum ar=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.or g|Subject:=20Re:=20Download=20manpages|References:=20|In-Reply -To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|C ontent-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20 protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"---- --------enig66D5B25B7193F5CBA6DDA237"; b=P5ArIt+TtK+sfGENCmoUW+FM9dFPVhwVsorOdv/AKaDSo1leXsThlFPUBzHJLPkcy PwwdrnDWgd0RHkphM35+oM/IW2Rtwwf7/e2bTOsUJRZi7MVzOxLm3cIXtp+BmiEOgI ExLm8HtpnNY/LhZsFN/l0IxiSesKer+0t45Dgu4I= Message-ID: <4E786601.5080608@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:08:01 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: deepak kumar References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig66D5B25B7193F5CBA6DDA237" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Download manpages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:08:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig66D5B25B7193F5CBA6DDA237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20/09/2011 09:50, deepak kumar wrote: > I want to download the freebsd manpages for some sections which i don't= have Individual man pages can be viewd on-line at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi -- that's obviously the processed page rather than the nroff source code. Page sources are available in the various on-line VCSes used by the project, but the man page sources are mostly interspersed with the C code etc. they describe. > and i need the compressed (tarball) for those section there is some way= to > download them Hmmm.... manpages are available on the distribution media for a release. For instance, look at: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/8.2-RELEASE/manpages There are several combinations of $ARCH and $VERSION available -- but only for released versions, so 8.2-RELEASE is the most up to date availab= le. You'll need to download all of the files in that directory. Well, except for the CHECKSUMS.* and *.mtree files. Although not absolutely necessary, verifying the checksums is a good idea... The format is a split-up tar archive; if you read install.sh you'll see how to extract the contents. Be careful though -- by default unpacking that tarball will overwrite the manpages in /usr/share/man Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig66D5B25B7193F5CBA6DDA237 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk54ZgkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxhxwCePiZcNDMPjin+cXAnY+GHFJd1 OQ0An2ZT9l6PS8eMhRSa08fzYENWAWQ1 =2h9U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig66D5B25B7193F5CBA6DDA237-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 10:40:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00285106566B for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deepakk.jangid@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AB38FC12 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf2 with SMTP id 2so276408gyf.13 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 03:40:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=29TfL4SOgosqygTEo74BrSAr5gBaE+mhStXBoa8hAMY=; b=Pof5Om1BJ1J+t0WPqJkbQlmuBj1c0xoJ8q+G8AKfOzEXicsXtyVMf3/OjTEUSxFxru 9C57F+z6KpvA9e5MFIX498V/EV45fjYQOrUmw1nqSMgjLUxztElSgudZVGmGKg1y1HAZ tXjVLHv66OR3Bo4LQBQkD4GON31W32Gy6M84M= Received: by 10.151.13.10 with SMTP id q10mr247100ybi.145.1316515218066; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 03:40:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.13.17 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 03:39:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E786601.5080608@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4E786601.5080608@infracaninophile.co.uk> From: deepak kumar Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:09:38 +0530 Message-ID: To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Download manpages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:40:19 -0000 Hello Matthew, I tried but several section were empty :( On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Matthew Seaman < m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote: > On 20/09/2011 09:50, deepak kumar wrote: > > I want to download the freebsd manpages for some sections which i don't > have > > Individual man pages can be viewd on-line at > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi -- that's obviously the processed > page rather than the nroff source code. > > Page sources are available in the various on-line VCSes used by the > project, but the man page sources are mostly interspersed with the C > code etc. they describe. > > > and i need the compressed (tarball) for those section there is some way > to > > download them > > Hmmm.... manpages are available on the distribution media for a release. > For instance, look at: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/8.2-RELEASE/manpages > > There are several combinations of $ARCH and $VERSION available -- but > only for released versions, so 8.2-RELEASE is the most up to date > available. > > You'll need to download all of the files in that directory. Well, > except for the CHECKSUMS.* and *.mtree files. Although not absolutely > necessary, verifying the checksums is a good idea... The format is a > split-up tar archive; if you read install.sh you'll see how to extract > the contents. Be careful though -- by default unpacking that tarball > will overwrite the manpages in /usr/share/man > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > -- Thanks and Regards Deepak Kumar Member Technical Staff NetApp India Pvt Ltd Bangalore (Karnataka) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 10:59:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D6C106564A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:59:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from moritz@barfooze.de) Received: from barfooze.de (barfooze.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:7d:200:0:4e2e:75d4:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0F48FC15 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:59:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from moritz by barfooze.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R5y3I-00027f-16 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:59:48 +0200 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:59:48 +0200 From: Moritz Wilhelmy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110920105948.GJ22957@barfooze.de> References: <20110919151641.GI22957@barfooze.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110919151641.GI22957@barfooze.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: Passing additional options to jail(8) via rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:59:49 -0000 Hello, if it really is impossible to pass parameters like ip4=inherit to jail(8) via the rc.conf mechanism, I consider this a serious limitation. Can I possibly make this a feature request? :) Best regards, Moritz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 11:02:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9909106564A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:02:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnavaza@hotmail.com) Received: from dub0-omc4-s25.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc4-s25.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.2.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3A28FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DUB102-W57 ([157.55.2.71]) by dub0-omc4-s25.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 20 Sep 2011 04:02:48 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.194.42.137] From: Rafael NAVAZA To: Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:02:47 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4E784905.1080007@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: , <4E784905.1080007@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2011 11:02:48.0117 (UTC) FILETIME=[D5145650:01CC7784] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: OpenLDAP + CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:02:49 -0000 Thank you for the reply Matthew. I'm indeed using the built in=20 failover capability of LDAP clients. It works just fine when the first=20 LDAP server is powered off=2C but it does not work that well when slapd=20 becomes a zombi ( because the clients take about 1 min to try the second LDAP server=2C for each request=2C every time ... ) It is for that reason I'm interested in building a HA cluster for OpenLDAP. I'm currently using the single-master replication and I will certainly move to a mirrormode or a n-way multimaster replication schema (as long as=20 the multimaster is used with CARP=2C this mode is equivalent to a=20 mirrormode with more than 2 replicas=2C isn't it ?). As far as I=20 know CARP will not check if the slapd is running correctly=3B that could=20 be a problem if the CARP Master has a failing slapd. Do I have to=20 monitor slapd with a third party software (like Monit) ? Can I configure CARP and OpenLDAP to watch each other more closely ? Rafael. > Date: Tue=2C 20 Sep 2011 09:04:21 +0100 > From: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk > To: rnavaza@hotmail.com > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: OpenLDAP + CARP >=20 > On 19/09/2011 15:54=2C Rafael NAVAZA wrote: > > Is there a way to setup an OpenLDAP HA cluster (intersite multimaster) = with CARP on FreeBSD ? >=20 > Hmmm... So long as both the LDAP servers are on the same network > segment=2C and so long as they have separate addresses for their > replication channel=2C then I can't see why that wouldn't work. >=20 > However=2C LDAP=2C by its nature has a failover capability built in. You > can just list several LDAP servers in your ldap.conf and each will be > tried in turn until you get an answer. Or put a comma separated list of > several servers into a ldap:/// or ldaps:/// style URI. >=20 > There's also a way you can use SRV records with LDAP -- that gives you > weighted load distribution over a number of servers. See RFC 3088. > Note that not all LDAP clients support this=2C and its still only an > experimental service. >=20 > Cheers=2C >=20 > Matthew >=20 > --=20 > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA=2C D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent=2C CT11 9PW >=20 = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 11:43:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB04106566B for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:43:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay009.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay009.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924558FC12 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:43:50 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap4EAPZ7eE7DDR9Z/2dsb2JhbABCqFKBUwEBAQECAQEBATcUCBgLBQsIAxguFBMBCQgkCAcEARwEh1YCBLQ2hh1gBJE1ghaRMQ Received: from 89.31-13-195.static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.89]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 20 Sep 2011 13:43:48 +0200 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:42:54 +0200 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: Lars Eighner Message-ID: <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:43:51 -0000 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:52:41AM -0500, Lars Eighner wrote: > On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >I've installed Firefox36 from ports, it installed without a problem but it > >does not launch. In other words, there's no firefox file on my system. > >Had it installed before and working, then to clean out the system with > >unnecessary ports, I removed all ports and reinstalled only what is > >necessary. Somehow now I can't get firefox to work. The installation > >runs through cleanly, but when I try to run firefox, the system just > >responds with 'command not found' > > > >fabry@desmo 7:27 % pkg_info | grep firefox > >firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > >afabry@desmo 7:28 % firefox > >firefox: Command not found. > > > >What could be the problem, where could I start looking? > > > what happens when you > > %which firefox3 > > ? > > -- I've installed both firefox and firefox36. Neither of them can be found on the system while the installation build and installed without errors afabry@desmo 13:40 % pkg_info | grep firefox firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox firefox: Command not found. afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox3 firefox3: Command not found. > Lars Eighner > http://www.larseighner.com/index.html > 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 11:53:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D65106564A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:53:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F248FC17 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8KBr6FL051548; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:53:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p8KBr6st051545; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:53:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:53:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "Alain G. Fabry" In-Reply-To: <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Message-ID: References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:53:07 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:53:09 -0000 On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > I've installed both firefox and firefox36. Neither of them can be found on the system while the installation build and installed without errors > > afabry@desmo 13:40 % pkg_info | grep firefox > firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox > firefox: Command not found. > afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox3 > firefox3: Command not found. See 'man csh | less -p rehash'. But also these should run with a full path: % /usr/local/bin/firefox3 % /usr/local/bin/firefox From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 12:17:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF68106567E for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:17:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay002.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FCF8FC0A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:17:31 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap4EADuDeE7DDR9Z/2dsb2JhbABCqFOBUwEBAQECAQEBATcUCBgLBQsIAw4KLhQTAQkIJAgHBAEcBIdWAgS0JIYdYASRNYIWkTE Received: from 89.31-13-195.static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.89]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 20 Sep 2011 14:17:29 +0200 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:16:35 +0200 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20110920121635.GA35842@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:17:32 -0000 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 05:53:06AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > >I've installed both firefox and firefox36. Neither of them can be found on > >the system while the installation build and installed without errors > > > >afabry@desmo 13:40 % pkg_info | grep firefox > >firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > >firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > >afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox > >firefox: Command not found. > >afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox3 > >firefox3: Command not found. > > See 'man csh | less -p rehash'. > > But also these should run with a full path: > > % /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > % /usr/local/bin/firefox > _______________________________________________ Files are just not found on the system... :-( afabry@desmo 14:10 % pkg_info | grep firefox firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla afabry@desmo 14:10 % rehash afabry@desmo 14:14 % /usr/local/bin/firefox /usr/local/bin/firefox: Command not found. afabry@desmo 14:12 % ls -l /usr/local/bin/ | grep fire -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10108 Sep 7 07:29 aafire afabry@desmo 14:12 % > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 12:40:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0016E106566C for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66A68FC15 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R5zdB-0004nL-9g; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:40:57 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R5zdA-0003Fe-TA; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:40:56 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8KCeulI025972; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:40:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p8KCeuNc025971; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:40:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:40:56 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: "Alain G. Fabry" Message-ID: <20110920124056.GC22274@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: "Alain G. Fabry" , Warren Block , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920121635.GA35842@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110920121635.GA35842@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:40:59 -0000 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:16:35PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 05:53:06AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > > > >I've installed both firefox and firefox36. Neither of them can be found on > > >the system while the installation build and installed without errors > > > > > >afabry@desmo 13:40 % pkg_info | grep firefox > > >firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > >firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > >afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox > > >firefox: Command not found. > > >afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox3 > > >firefox3: Command not found. > > > > See 'man csh | less -p rehash'. > > > > But also these should run with a full path: > > > > % /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > % /usr/local/bin/firefox > > _______________________________________________ > > Files are just not found on the system... :-( > > afabry@desmo 14:10 % pkg_info | grep firefox > firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > afabry@desmo 14:10 % rehash > afabry@desmo 14:14 % /usr/local/bin/firefox > /usr/local/bin/firefox: Command not found. > afabry@desmo 14:12 % ls -l /usr/local/bin/ | grep fire > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10108 Sep 7 07:29 aafire > afabry@desmo 14:12 % what about pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 pkg_info -Lx firefox-6 On my system: TZAV> pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 | grep bin /usr/local/bin/firefox3 /usr/local/include/firefox3/gtk2xtbin.h /usr/local/lib/firefox3/bin /usr/local/lib/firefox3/firefox-bin TZAV> -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 13:27:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E95C106564A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay012.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay012.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B63C8FC12 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:27:25 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap4EAB2TeE7DDR9Z/2dsb2JhbAA/A6hVgVMBAQEBAwEBATcUCBgbCAMOCi4UEwEJCCQBBwcEARwEh1gEtCCDb4IuYASRNYIWkTE Received: from 89.31-13-195.static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.89]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 20 Sep 2011 15:27:24 +0200 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:26:29 +0200 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: Warren Block , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner Message-ID: <20110920132541.GA36102@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920121635.GA35842@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920124056.GC22274@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110920124056.GC22274@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:27:26 -0000 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 01:40:56PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:16:35PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 05:53:06AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > > > > > >I've installed both firefox and firefox36. Neither of them can be found on > > > >the system while the installation build and installed without errors > > > > > > > >afabry@desmo 13:40 % pkg_info | grep firefox > > > >firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > > >firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > > >afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox > > > >firefox: Command not found. > > > >afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox3 > > > >firefox3: Command not found. > > > > > > See 'man csh | less -p rehash'. > > > > > > But also these should run with a full path: > > > > > > % /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > > % /usr/local/bin/firefox > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Files are just not found on the system... :-( > > > > afabry@desmo 14:10 % pkg_info | grep firefox > > firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > afabry@desmo 14:10 % rehash > > afabry@desmo 14:14 % /usr/local/bin/firefox > > /usr/local/bin/firefox: Command not found. > > afabry@desmo 14:12 % ls -l /usr/local/bin/ | grep fire > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10108 Sep 7 07:29 aafire > > afabry@desmo 14:12 % > > what about > > pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 > pkg_info -Lx firefox-6 > > On my system: > > TZAV> pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 | grep bin > /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > /usr/local/include/firefox3/gtk2xtbin.h > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/bin > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/firefox-bin > TZAV> > > Seems to be ok here ?? afabry@desmo 15:22 % pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 | grep bin /usr/local/bin/firefox3 /usr/local/include/firefox3/gtk2xtbin.h /usr/local/lib/firefox3/bin /usr/local/lib/firefox3/firefox-bin afabry@desmo 15:23 % pkg_info -Lx firefox-6 | grep bin /usr/local/bin/firefox /usr/local/include/firefox/gtk2xtbin.h /usr/local/lib/firefox/bin /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin /usr/local/lib/firefox/searchplugins/bing.xml > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 13:28:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D427106566B for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:28:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068AE8FC15 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:28:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1621 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2011 12:50:45 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-121.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.121]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Sep 2011 12:50:45 -0000 Message-ID: <4E788C24.10603@speakeasy.net> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:50:44 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110120 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4E781792.8090803@speakeasy.net> <4E784D79.8030707@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E784D79.8030707@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Brandon Kuczenski , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner Subject: Re: Using ports and packages together (or, how do I get mod_php5 ? ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:28:53 -0000 On 09/20/11 01:23, Matthew Seaman wrote: > 'Latest' packages are built for each updated port + OS version + > architecture combination whenever resources are available on the build > cluster. Typically that implies a delay of a few days or a week or so > after the update hits the ports CVS. Yes, if you install the latest > pkgs everything should still remain consistent -- but that means you > should install all of the available updates: picking and choosing is the > route to tears before bedtime[*]. For my part, I plan to update all. I have decided over the years that letting the FreeBSD project manage my ports versions for me is the way to happiness. Roll-your-own is a thing of my past. That said, updating onesy-twosy has only caused me a manageable amount of grief. The problem is the timing. It is always before bed, or before my paper is due, and openoffice is griping about something do with java and java is now done differently than it has been... Like I said, updating onesy-twosy can be a serious PITA. Later, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 13:40:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C7B106566C for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4538FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R60Z1-0000uL-5P; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:40:43 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R60Z0-0005bv-PJ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:40:42 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8KDegbq046687; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:40:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p8KDegMn046686; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:40:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:40:42 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: "Alain G. Fabry" Message-ID: <20110920134042.GA46675@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: "Alain G. Fabry" , Warren Block , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920121635.GA35842@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920124056.GC22274@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920132541.GA36102@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110920132541.GA36102@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:40:45 -0000 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:26:29PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 01:40:56PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:16:35PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 05:53:06AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > > > > > > > >I've installed both firefox and firefox36. Neither of them can be found on > > > > >the system while the installation build and installed without errors > > > > > > > > > >afabry@desmo 13:40 % pkg_info | grep firefox > > > > >firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > > > >firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > > > >afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox > > > > >firefox: Command not found. > > > > >afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox3 > > > > >firefox3: Command not found. > > > > > > > > See 'man csh | less -p rehash'. > > > > > > > > But also these should run with a full path: > > > > > > > > % /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > > > % /usr/local/bin/firefox > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Files are just not found on the system... :-( > > > > > > afabry@desmo 14:10 % pkg_info | grep firefox > > > firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > > firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > > afabry@desmo 14:10 % rehash > > > afabry@desmo 14:14 % /usr/local/bin/firefox > > > /usr/local/bin/firefox: Command not found. > > > afabry@desmo 14:12 % ls -l /usr/local/bin/ | grep fire > > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10108 Sep 7 07:29 aafire > > > afabry@desmo 14:12 % > > > > what about > > > > pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 > > pkg_info -Lx firefox-6 > > > > On my system: > > > > TZAV> pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 | grep bin > > /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > /usr/local/include/firefox3/gtk2xtbin.h > > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/bin > > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/firefox-bin > > TZAV> > > > > > > Seems to be ok here ?? > > afabry@desmo 15:22 % pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 | grep bin > /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > /usr/local/include/firefox3/gtk2xtbin.h > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/bin > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/firefox-bin > afabry@desmo 15:23 % pkg_info -Lx firefox-6 | grep bin > /usr/local/bin/firefox > /usr/local/include/firefox/gtk2xtbin.h > /usr/local/lib/firefox/bin > /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin > /usr/local/lib/firefox/searchplugins/bing.xml So, what do you get if you now type: /usr/local/bin/firefox3 or /usr/local/bin/firefox -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 13:45:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E698106566B for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098CC8FC18 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:45:26 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap4EAJCYeE7DDR9Z/2dsb2JhbAA/A6hVgVMBAQEBAgEBAQE3FAgYEAsIAw4KLhQTAQkIJAEHBwQBHASHVgIEtA+Db4IuYASRNYIWkTE Received: from 89.31-13-195.static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.89]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 20 Sep 2011 15:45:25 +0200 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:44:31 +0200 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: Warren Block , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner Message-ID: <20110920134431.GA36250@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920121635.GA35842@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920124056.GC22274@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920132541.GA36102@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920134042.GA46675@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110920134042.GA46675@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:45:27 -0000 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:40:42PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:26:29PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 01:40:56PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:16:35PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 05:53:06AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >I've installed both firefox and firefox36. Neither of them can be found on > > > > > >the system while the installation build and installed without errors > > > > > > > > > > > >afabry@desmo 13:40 % pkg_info | grep firefox > > > > > >firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > > > > >firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > > > > >afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox > > > > > >firefox: Command not found. > > > > > >afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox3 > > > > > >firefox3: Command not found. > > > > > > > > > > See 'man csh | less -p rehash'. > > > > > > > > > > But also these should run with a full path: > > > > > > > > > > % /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > > > > % /usr/local/bin/firefox > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Files are just not found on the system... :-( > > > > > > > > afabry@desmo 14:10 % pkg_info | grep firefox > > > > firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > > > firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > > > afabry@desmo 14:10 % rehash > > > > afabry@desmo 14:14 % /usr/local/bin/firefox > > > > /usr/local/bin/firefox: Command not found. > > > > afabry@desmo 14:12 % ls -l /usr/local/bin/ | grep fire > > > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10108 Sep 7 07:29 aafire > > > > afabry@desmo 14:12 % > > > > > > what about > > > > > > pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 > > > pkg_info -Lx firefox-6 > > > > > > On my system: > > > > > > TZAV> pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 | grep bin > > > /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > > /usr/local/include/firefox3/gtk2xtbin.h > > > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/bin > > > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/firefox-bin > > > TZAV> > > > > > > > > > > Seems to be ok here ?? > > > > afabry@desmo 15:22 % pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 | grep bin > > /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > /usr/local/include/firefox3/gtk2xtbin.h > > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/bin > > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/firefox-bin > > afabry@desmo 15:23 % pkg_info -Lx firefox-6 | grep bin > > /usr/local/bin/firefox > > /usr/local/include/firefox/gtk2xtbin.h > > /usr/local/lib/firefox/bin > > /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin > > /usr/local/lib/firefox/searchplugins/bing.xml > > So, what do you get if you now type: > > /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > or > > /usr/local/bin/firefox > > -- What I mentioned before ;-) 'command not found' afabry@desmo 15:40 % /usr/local/bin/firefox3 /usr/local/bin/firefox3: Command not found. afabry@desmo 15:40 % /usr/local/bin/firefox /usr/local/bin/firefox: Command not found. afabry@desmo 15:41 % files don't exist, and must have deinstalled/installed already 3 times... > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 13:52:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6E1106566B for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4278FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:51:59 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiIFAJCYeE7DDR9Z/2dsb2JhbAA/A6V2gl+BUwEBBTocMwgDDgouFCUkAYgLtBODb4IuYASTS5Ex Received: from 89.31-13-195.static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.89]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 20 Sep 2011 15:51:59 +0200 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:51:04 +0200 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: Warren Block , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner Message-ID: <20110920135104.GA36302@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920121635.GA35842@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920124056.GC22274@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920132541.GA36102@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920134042.GA46675@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110920134042.GA46675@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:52:00 -0000 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:40:42PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:26:29PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 01:40:56PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > Seems to be ok here ?? > > > > afabry@desmo 15:22 % pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 | grep bin > > /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > /usr/local/include/firefox3/gtk2xtbin.h > > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/bin > > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/firefox-bin > > afabry@desmo 15:23 % pkg_info -Lx firefox-6 | grep bin > > /usr/local/bin/firefox > > /usr/local/include/firefox/gtk2xtbin.h > > /usr/local/lib/firefox/bin > > /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin > > /usr/local/lib/firefox/searchplugins/bing.xml > > So, what do you get if you now type: > > /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > or > > /usr/local/bin/firefox > afabry@desmo 15:45 % sudo find / -name firefox3 /usr/local/lib/firefox3 /var/db/ports/firefox3 only finds 2 matches for firefox3, nothing in /usr/local/bin > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 14:05:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D925106566C for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECB88FC0A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R60wV-0002I3-2h; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:05:05 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R60vy-0006e1-CN; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:04:26 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8KE4Qif055595; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:04:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p8KE4Qs4055594; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:04:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:04:26 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: "Alain G. Fabry" Message-ID: <20110920140425.GA50694@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: "Alain G. Fabry" , Warren Block , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920121635.GA35842@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920124056.GC22274@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920132541.GA36102@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920134042.GA46675@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920134431.GA36250@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110920134431.GA36250@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:05:15 -0000 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:44:31PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:40:42PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:26:29PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 01:40:56PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:16:35PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 05:53:06AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >I've installed both firefox and firefox36. Neither of them can be found on > > > > > > >the system while the installation build and installed without errors > > > > > > > > > > > > > >afabry@desmo 13:40 % pkg_info | grep firefox > > > > > > >firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > > > > > >firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > > > > > >afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox > > > > > > >firefox: Command not found. > > > > > > >afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox3 > > > > > > >firefox3: Command not found. > > > > > > > > > > > > See 'man csh | less -p rehash'. > > > > > > > > > > > > But also these should run with a full path: > > > > > > > > > > > > % /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > > > > > % /usr/local/bin/firefox > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > Files are just not found on the system... :-( > > > > > > > > > > afabry@desmo 14:10 % pkg_info | grep firefox > > > > > firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > > > > firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla > > > > > afabry@desmo 14:10 % rehash > > > > > afabry@desmo 14:14 % /usr/local/bin/firefox > > > > > /usr/local/bin/firefox: Command not found. > > > > > afabry@desmo 14:12 % ls -l /usr/local/bin/ | grep fire > > > > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10108 Sep 7 07:29 aafire > > > > > afabry@desmo 14:12 % > > > > > > > > what about > > > > > > > > pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 > > > > pkg_info -Lx firefox-6 > > > > > > > > On my system: > > > > > > > > TZAV> pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 | grep bin > > > > /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > > > /usr/local/include/firefox3/gtk2xtbin.h > > > > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/bin > > > > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/firefox-bin > > > > TZAV> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems to be ok here ?? > > > > > > afabry@desmo 15:22 % pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 | grep bin > > > /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > > /usr/local/include/firefox3/gtk2xtbin.h > > > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/bin > > > /usr/local/lib/firefox3/firefox-bin > > > afabry@desmo 15:23 % pkg_info -Lx firefox-6 | grep bin > > > /usr/local/bin/firefox > > > /usr/local/include/firefox/gtk2xtbin.h > > > /usr/local/lib/firefox/bin > > > /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin > > > /usr/local/lib/firefox/searchplugins/bing.xml > > > > So, what do you get if you now type: > > > > /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > > > or > > > > /usr/local/bin/firefox > > > > -- > What I mentioned before ;-) 'command not found' > > afabry@desmo 15:40 % /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > /usr/local/bin/firefox3: Command not found. > afabry@desmo 15:40 % /usr/local/bin/firefox > /usr/local/bin/firefox: Command not found. > afabry@desmo 15:41 % > > files don't exist, and must have deinstalled/installed already 3 times... so, pkg_info thinks it installed the executable, yet, you can't find it. I don't know what to check next. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 15:22:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3A91065674; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:22:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from moritz@barfooze.de) Received: from barfooze.de (barfooze.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:7d:200:0:4e2e:75d4:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8578FC1C; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:22:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from moritz by barfooze.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R6291-0002Dr-P0; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:21:59 +0200 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:21:59 +0200 From: Moritz Wilhelmy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110920152159.GK22957@barfooze.de> References: <20110919151641.GI22957@barfooze.de> <20110920105948.GJ22957@barfooze.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110920105948.GJ22957@barfooze.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, moritz@wzff.de Subject: Re: Passing additional options to jail(8) via rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:22:02 -0000 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:59:48 +0200, Moritz Wilhelmy wrote: > if it really is impossible to pass parameters like ip4=inherit to > jail(8) via the rc.conf mechanism, I consider this a serious limitation. > Can I possibly make this a feature request? :) Alright, just for the record, apparently there is a (suspended) PR (conf/142972) which requests /etc/rc.d/jail to be switched over to "new style" jail(8) invocation (with -c/-m parameters), which, unlike "old-style" invocation supports passing additional parameters, which has worked for me in the past, when done by hand. On previous servers, I ended up putting something in my rc.local, but as already mentioned, I'd very much prefer the rc.conf-sugar. This PR was filed about a year ago, and I'm a bit disappointed, because one of the main reasons for me to pick FreeBSD was the jail support, which is pretty amazing if you ask me, if only there was a way to start them *with* parameters... :-( Please do something. I know freebsd-questions is the wrong list for this (so I will be posting it to freebsd-jail as well), but my initial post ended up there. I don't care whether you end up with an /etc/jail.d as proposed in conf/116416, but IMHO, there should be some *documented* way, which is officially supported and available on a default installation of FreeBSD, to start a jail with all parameters advertised in the manpage. Please keep me in CC, I am not subscribed to freebsd-jail. Best regards, Moritz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 15:25:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B15106564A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:25:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321848FC0A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8KFPaV3049734 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:25:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8KFPaV3049734 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1316532337; bh=dJAHFpjjRwj1I1jx0NSz1j9Zmd1hN2oyaQ1dSayOBQk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E78B067.3070300@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2020=20Sep=202011=2016:25:27=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/2 0110902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20deepak=20kum ar=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.or g|Subject:=20Re:=20Download=20manpages|References:=20=20<4E786 601.5080608@infracaninophile.co.uk>=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-E nigmail-Version:=201.3.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20 multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"app lication/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigADD 1EF3895F9757CE88EB4C9"; b=CQgCuIjbzTU0pMNtBkhWlijneY1Yr153RmncV4nBi7xSB05a/HrnGWr1f5kM+xhH2 ydAVEgogB1Fqu4vFXTCXcNe0fGU5+7aJ1InIHcvPloLzmIdQR6mNvi3CJPjRSMDdTS Nan1RDXj/XafZI+rFOEjsiqaUgugeM1zbhvG67VU= Message-ID: <4E78B067.3070300@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:25:27 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: deepak kumar References: <4E786601.5080608@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigADD1EF3895F9757CE88EB4C9" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Download manpages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:25:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigADD1EF3895F9757CE88EB4C9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20/09/2011 11:39, deepak kumar wrote: > I tried but several section were empty :( Perhaps if you tell us exactly what you are trying to find? Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigADD1EF3895F9757CE88EB4C9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk54sG8ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwnWgCdGsRx5M5rkqp19JCfFOJ+0tCx MRwAoI1KaX2HTWrgqOvutNxbXF7ixxU9 =XSJF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigADD1EF3895F9757CE88EB4C9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 16:41:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FD51065673 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE748FC17 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p8KGfkRD000407; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:41:46 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (host-92-22-130-66.as13285.net [92.22.130.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p8KGfj0J000400; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:41:46 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9A9D133C1F; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:41:45 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:41:45 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: "Alain G. Fabry" Message-ID: <20110920164145.GA7704@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920121635.GA35842@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920124056.GC22274@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920132541.GA36102@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920134042.GA46675@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920134431.GA36250@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110920134431.GA36250@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:41:50 -0000 --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:44:31PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:40:42PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >=20 > > So, what do you get if you now type: > >=20 > > /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > >=20 > > or > >=20 > > /usr/local/bin/firefox > >=20 > > --=20 > What I mentioned before ;-) 'command not found'=20 >=20 > afabry@desmo 15:40 % /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > /usr/local/bin/firefox3: Command not found. > afabry@desmo 15:40 % /usr/local/bin/firefox > /usr/local/bin/firefox: Command not found. > afabry@desmo 15:41 %=20 >=20 > files don't exist, and must have deinstalled/installed already 3 times... >=20 You don't mention how you are installing/deleting. Try: # pkg_delete -f firefox\* # cd /usr/ports/www/firefox # make install clean # ls -l /usr/local/bin/firefox Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk54wkgACgkQHduKvUAgeK4Y4QCfSfbv93NKtVu7SzFehIZepGtj vtMAnilT8mSXLbnKLHKGtarEXjWsknUK =8lD7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 16:43:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38603106568E for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37E98FC15 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8KGhSwP053109; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:43:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p8KGhS8o053106; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:43:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:43:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "Alain G. Fabry" In-Reply-To: <20110920135104.GA36302@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Message-ID: References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920121635.GA35842@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920124056.GC22274@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920132541.GA36102@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920134042.GA46675@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920135104.GA36302@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:43:28 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:43:31 -0000 On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > afabry@desmo 15:45 % sudo find / -name firefox3 > /usr/local/lib/firefox3 > /var/db/ports/firefox3 > > only finds 2 matches for firefox3, nothing in /usr/local/bin Have you changed default settings, like changing LOCALBASE or DESTDIR? Is it installing in a jail, or some other weirdness? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 16:54:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF621065670; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mx1.sbone.de (mx1.sbone.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:3ffc::401:25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE278FC08; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.sbone.de (mail.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 621B925D3888; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86FCEBD3C8E; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:54:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sbone.de Received: from mail.sbone.de ([IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) by content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B1c-45eugV68; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from orange-en1.sbone.de (orange-en1.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31:cabc:c8ff:fecf:e8e3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 875A2BD3C32; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" In-Reply-To: <20110920152159.GK22957@barfooze.de> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:54:33 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3B59556D-3799-41E5-8F8A-FFBBA5A3963C@lists.zabbadoz.net> References: <20110919151641.GI22957@barfooze.de> <20110920105948.GJ22957@barfooze.de> <20110920152159.GK22957@barfooze.de> To: Moritz Wilhelmy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Passing additional options to jail(8) via rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:54:38 -0000 On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Moritz Wilhelmy wrote: > Please keep me in CC, I am not subscribed to freebsd-jail. Which is your problem as the real solution is being discussed there and is really looking for more eyes. Search for Jamie's posts in the list archive. -- Bjoern A. Zeeb You have to have visions! Stop bit received. Insert coin for new address family. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 17:25:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDB1106566B; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:25:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from moritz@barfooze.de) Received: from barfooze.de (barfooze.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:7d:200:0:4e2e:75d4:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06028FC0A; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from moritz by barfooze.de with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R644E-0000ZE-Ii; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:25:10 +0200 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:25:10 +0200 From: Moritz Wilhelmy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110920172510.GN22957@barfooze.de> References: <20110919151641.GI22957@barfooze.de> <20110920105948.GJ22957@barfooze.de> <20110920152159.GK22957@barfooze.de> <3B59556D-3799-41E5-8F8A-FFBBA5A3963C@lists.zabbadoz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B59556D-3799-41E5-8F8A-FFBBA5A3963C@lists.zabbadoz.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org, moritz@wzff.de Subject: Re: Passing additional options to jail(8) via rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:25:12 -0000 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 16:54:33 +0000, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On Sep 20, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Moritz Wilhelmy wrote: > > > Please keep me in CC, I am not subscribed to freebsd-jail. > > Which is your problem as the real solution is being discussed there and > is really looking for more eyes. Search for Jamie's posts in the list > archive. I wasn't subscribed to freebsd-questions either, back in July. I had some FreeBSDs running before, but I really wasn't reading any mailing lists. I thought I should ask -questions first, because it is the most busy one, with all the chatter and noise. Guess I will either patch jail(8) or do it via rc.local on 8.2 and wait for the release of 9, which seems to be quite an improvement in general. I'm also not that actively involved in FreeBSD, and I try not to subscribe too many mailing lists in general. I thought the PR was the only thing there was, and google tricked me into believing this. Maybe someone could close the PR in case this is resolved. My apologies. Thanks to Jamie for adding support for the config file. Best regards, Moritz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 17:41:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D92106564A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131D18FC08 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:41:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadk27 with SMTP id k27so1277936iad.13 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:41:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KRRgPL2mW+vxXZPaKdF2XNiy/tVL70UtCswaJCaKvjY=; b=ozcWeQGwe/ybbe/rqjReard7inrWRgCiyDxNQnlA75tDDYrmq+vLYF5ln/mZOi9BK7 6yQ/NvD+GHOES0uDo/ACs3dVDkZ4NI1rnDFQY8lJwXOiIcGreG37oW6YRfH3qG6QcIg+ fGN6HF+ju81keZMbIO8PbaTIo75hhGF7hYUDU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.29.141 with SMTP id q13mr1695696ibc.58.1316540482238; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.53.9 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:41:22 +0200 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: apache 2.2.21 - back to 2.2.20 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:41:23 -0000 Monday I did a portupgrade apache-2.2.20 < needs updating (index has 2.2.21) There was no problem during the update (and nothing special mentionned in /usr/ports/UPDATING) Today Tuesday afternoon I did a # apachectl graceful Since them, several webpages give problems this error comes up: warning: preg_match() [function.preg-match]: Compilation failed: internal error: previously-checked referenced subpattern not found at offset 389 in /usr/local/www/apache22/data/drupal-6.22/includes/database.inc on line 347. nothing was changed to the website(s). In the morning today everything was still OK. The # apachectl grafecul must have loaded the new httpd (apache2.2.21) and now gives these errors. What can be the reason and how to solve? Can you switch back tot a previous version of a port How to go back from apache-2.2.21 to apache-2.2.20 ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 17:41:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9AC106566B for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rg.lists@rzweb.com) Received: from flabnapple.net (flabnapple.net [216.129.104.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDE18FC13 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:41:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.flabnapple.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flabnapple.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86741CC056 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:25:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:25:56 -0700 From: "Ron (Lists)" To: Message-ID: X-Sender: rg.lists@rzweb.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.5.4 Subject: Odd error when doing pkg_version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:41:54 -0000 Starting a couple of days ago, when I run pkg_version I get the following error: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgdbm.so.3" not found, required by "httpd" Everything seems to run OK except for this message appearing in the middle of the run. I've tried to narrow it down with no real luck. I've tried searching for ports with libgdbm or ld-elf in them and am not finding any (installed or not). Does anyone know where this is coming from and how to fix it? Ron From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 18:45:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6831065679 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:45:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tam.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f44.google.com (mail-vw0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20598FC23 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5so1177611vws.17 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:45:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uo/Fc+AshmNBe3u9tlkX20spau/qWtwrECvQN87fuhw=; b=TJw2csQrpJv5JnK9GIooRz9tdxdlhyZFNiMVM9bU0ZxBBQPseq7LJK+ZJqgxzjcEnr KWl1zsLn4JwB0dTm506hmKQsQN+qxMzVCYeDbVZGjWv6OEcEK8hSBlTwiTkr+qAWV73L u8m7rgSsunvXlkmLl6s1qKI1gGLn/mbrb9SDM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.91.136 with SMTP id ce8mr998736vdb.477.1316544357378; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.157.135 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:45:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:45:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Sergio Tam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: n dhert Subject: Re: apache 2.2.21 - back to 2.2.20 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:45:58 -0000 2011/9/20 n dhert : > Monday I did a portupgrade > apache-2.2.20 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 < =A0 needs upd= ating (index has 2.2.21) > There was no problem during the update (and nothing special mentionned in > /usr/ports/UPDATING) > Today Tuesday afternoon I did a > # apachectl graceful > Since them, several webpages give problems > this error comes up: > warning: preg_match() [function.preg-match]: Compilation failed: internal > error: previously-checked referenced subpattern not found at offset 389 i= n > /usr/local/www/apache22/data/drupal-6.22/includes/database.inc on line 34= 7. > Your drupal its old versi=F3n, i think work with php 4 and now you have php= 5 Try to upgrade drupal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 19:22:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C66106564A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF498FC1C for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyg7 with SMTP id 7so622971eyg.13 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:22:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=YTDykUmxwmGpuVFwJEaBDCS2AQA91aZbqoSpumAc0vA=; b=EIgWbKsJL3R6I5bcyx54bGtRaJZjzxLKil4CFx93qgmX5Z1Xrr00yQzH0TBDzf+l4b Hc/Y0QpB+GzR0aU778u+rJipEfXV2R+6XD/grKhz/WnKUSlqAA8e+YRVlpW7bj2rdgti MQAuIu1p8IpQ0Ttm7RdXrwVEODTPikObM0uAg= Received: by 10.213.31.70 with SMTP id x6mr466429ebc.75.1316546564173; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:22:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.34.5 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:22:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:22:04 +0300 Message-ID: To: Sergio Tam Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=0015174c3eae49af3c04ad64624c X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: n dhert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache 2.2.21 - back to 2.2.20 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:22:45 -0000 --0015174c3eae49af3c04ad64624c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 21:45, Sergio Tam wrote: > 2011/9/20 n dhert : > > Monday I did a portupgrade > > apache-2.2.20 < needs updating (index has 2.2.2= 1) > > There was no problem during the update (and nothing special mentionned = in > > /usr/ports/UPDATING) > > Today Tuesday afternoon I did a > > # apachectl graceful > > Since them, several webpages give problems > > this error comes up: > > warning: preg_match() [function.preg-match]: Compilation failed: intern= al > > error: previously-checked referenced subpattern not found at offset 389 > in > > /usr/local/www/apache22/data/drupal-6.22/includes/database.inc on line > 347. > > > > Your drupal its old versi=C3=B3n, i think work with php 4 and now you hav= e php5 > > Try to upgrade drupal. > > Or, in worst case scenario, portdowngrade (it's in the ports) apache. --=20 Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. --0015174c3eae49af3c04ad64624c-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 19:50:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDD4106564A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tam.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f44.google.com (mail-vw0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A88C8FC13 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:50:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5so1247988vws.17 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:50:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7Wfr1rJfbiDdXaaEXDUxXWHioM1p3po+vg0DCH0bLQA=; b=kJ41tNAsbwcsx9Cr58kcFHVl4OYbGz28mpZXq6C/hYmSOe6TQUPbu0WlIhvFu7x5PA B0kJt15jIpla5fZm//LvJrsIjna1tLNpAP3oP33/te6pjjpHXOKRnur+crHkBYvCZy19 tkJlnSqDLfbzQyYLElvMy6jvvaQffSgqfmuMg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.181.231 with SMTP id dz7mr402349vdc.209.1316548199929; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.157.135 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:49:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:49:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: Sergio Tam To: Odhiambo Washington Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: n dhert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache 2.2.21 - back to 2.2.20 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:50:01 -0000 2011/9/20 Odhiambo Washington > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 21:45, Sergio Tam wrote: > >> 2011/9/20 n dhert : >> > Monday I did a portupgrade >> > apache-2.2.20 < needs updating (index has >> 2.2.21) >> > There was no problem during the update (and nothing special mentionned >> in >> > /usr/ports/UPDATING) >> > Today Tuesday afternoon I did a >> > # apachectl graceful >> > Since them, several webpages give problems >> > this error comes up: >> > warning: preg_match() [function.preg-match]: Compilation failed: >> internal >> > error: previously-checked referenced subpattern not found at offset 38= 9 >> in >> > /usr/local/www/apache22/data/drupal-6.22/includes/database.inc on line >> 347. >> > >> >> Your drupal its old versi=F3n, i think work with php 4 and now you have = php5 >> >> Try to upgrade drupal. >> >> > Or, in worst case scenario, portdowngrade (it's in the ports) apache. > > > > cd /usr/ports/sysutils/portdowngrade From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 20:13:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6F4106566B for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4908FC0A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:13:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R66h8-0005XV-9r for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:13:30 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.85.36]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:13:30 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:13:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:21:13 -0400 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: apache 2.2.21 - back to 2.2.20 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:13:32 -0000 Sergio Tam wrote: > 2011/9/20 n dhert : >> Monday I did a portupgrade >> apache-2.2.20 < needs updating (index has 2.2.21) >> There was no problem during the update (and nothing special mentionned in >> /usr/ports/UPDATING) >> Today Tuesday afternoon I did a >> # apachectl graceful >> Since them, several webpages give problems >> this error comes up: >> warning: preg_match() [function.preg-match]: Compilation failed: internal >> error: previously-checked referenced subpattern not found at offset 389 >> in /usr/local/www/apache22/data/drupal-6.22/includes/database.inc on line >> 347. >> > > Your drupal its old versión, i think work with php 4 and now you have php5 > > Try to upgrade drupal. Might also try rebuild/reinstall mod_php, see if that helps. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 20:20:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id D80D51065711; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:20:12 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:20:12 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: "Ron (Lists)" Message-ID: <20110920202012.GA79487@freebsd.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Odd error when doing pkg_version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:20:12 -0000 On Tue Sep 20 11, Ron (Lists) wrote: > Starting a couple of days ago, when I run pkg_version I get the > following error: > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgdbm.so.3" not found, required > by "httpd" > > Everything seems to run OK except for this message appearing in the > middle of the run. I've tried to narrow it down with no real luck. > > I've tried searching for ports with libgdbm or ld-elf in them and am > not finding any (installed or not). > > Does anyone know where this is coming from and how to fix it? maybe portupgrade -f httpd\* ? > > Ron > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 20:28:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4550D106568A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:28:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rg.lists@rzweb.com) Received: from flabnapple.net (flabnapple.net [216.129.104.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3328F8FC18 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.flabnapple.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flabnapple.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7AE81CC056; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:28:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:28:58 -0700 From: "Ron (Lists)" To: Alexander Best In-Reply-To: <20110920202012.GA79487@freebsd.org> References: <20110920202012.GA79487@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <50fd40410ba56967ef5b939b953b0d43@flabnapple.net> X-Sender: rg.lists@rzweb.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.5.4 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Odd error when doing pkg_version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:28:59 -0000 >> Starting a couple of days ago, when I run pkg_version I get the >> following error: >> >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgdbm.so.3" not found, >> required >> by "httpd" >> >> Everything seems to run OK except for this message appearing in the >> middle of the run. I've tried to narrow it down with no real luck. >> >> I've tried searching for ports with libgdbm or ld-elf in them and am >> not finding any (installed or not). >> >> Does anyone know where this is coming from and how to fix it? > > maybe > > portupgrade -f httpd\* > > ? Yeah, I tried looking at that, but I don't have the httpd port installed or any of the other variations of httpd. Or if I do, it doesn't show up anywhere that I can see. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:46:58 -0000 FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE system with two physical CPUs, each of which are HT capable. From dmesg: cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 I also see this: machdep.hyperthreading_allowed: 0 The problem is, I have reason to believe that my workload benefits greatly from SMP, but is not playing nicely with hyperthreading. That is, it is trying to farm out 4 things at a time to a cpu setup that really is only able to do two things at a time. How can I disable HT completely, but still retain ALL the benefits of SMP ? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 21:00:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0EF1065675 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from april.london.02.net (april.london.02.net [87.194.255.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E5F8FC15 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (93.97.24.219) by april.london.02.net (8.5.140) id 4E261E7201A99D0F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:00:25 +0100 Message-ID: <4E78FEE8.7020202@onetel.com> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:00:24 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920121635.GA35842@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920124056.GC22274@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920132541.GA36102@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920134042.GA46675@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920134431.GA36250@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920140425.GA50694@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110920140425.GA50694@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:00:26 -0000 On 20/09/2011 15:04, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:44:31PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:40:42PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:26:29PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: >>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 01:40:56PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:16:35PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 05:53:06AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Alain G. Fabry wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've installed both firefox and firefox36. Neither of them can be found on >>>>>>>> the system while the installation build and installed without errors >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> afabry@desmo 13:40 % pkg_info | grep firefox >>>>>>>> firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla >>>>>>>> firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla >>>>>>>> afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox >>>>>>>> firefox: Command not found. >>>>>>>> afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox3 >>>>>>>> firefox3: Command not found. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See 'man csh | less -p rehash'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But also these should run with a full path: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> % /usr/local/bin/firefox3 >>>>>>> % /usr/local/bin/firefox >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Files are just not found on the system... :-( >>>>>> >>>>>> afabry@desmo 14:10 % pkg_info | grep firefox >>>>>> firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla >>>>>> firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla >>>>>> afabry@desmo 14:10 % rehash >>>>>> afabry@desmo 14:14 % /usr/local/bin/firefox >>>>>> /usr/local/bin/firefox: Command not found. >>>>>> afabry@desmo 14:12 % ls -l /usr/local/bin/ | grep fire >>>>>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10108 Sep 7 07:29 aafire >>>>>> afabry@desmo 14:12 % >>>>> >>>>> what about >>>>> >>>>> pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 >>>>> pkg_info -Lx firefox-6 >>>>> >>>>> On my system: >>>>> >>>>> TZAV> pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 | grep bin >>>>> /usr/local/bin/firefox3 >>>>> /usr/local/include/firefox3/gtk2xtbin.h >>>>> /usr/local/lib/firefox3/bin >>>>> /usr/local/lib/firefox3/firefox-bin >>>>> TZAV> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Seems to be ok here ?? >>>> >>>> afabry@desmo 15:22 % pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 | grep bin >>>> /usr/local/bin/firefox3 >>>> /usr/local/include/firefox3/gtk2xtbin.h >>>> /usr/local/lib/firefox3/bin >>>> /usr/local/lib/firefox3/firefox-bin >>>> afabry@desmo 15:23 % pkg_info -Lx firefox-6 | grep bin >>>> /usr/local/bin/firefox >>>> /usr/local/include/firefox/gtk2xtbin.h >>>> /usr/local/lib/firefox/bin >>>> /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin >>>> /usr/local/lib/firefox/searchplugins/bing.xml >>> >>> So, what do you get if you now type: >>> >>> /usr/local/bin/firefox3 >>> >>> or >>> >>> /usr/local/bin/firefox >>> >>> -- >> What I mentioned before ;-) 'command not found' >> >> afabry@desmo 15:40 % /usr/local/bin/firefox3 >> /usr/local/bin/firefox3: Command not found. >> afabry@desmo 15:40 % /usr/local/bin/firefox >> /usr/local/bin/firefox: Command not found. >> afabry@desmo 15:41 % >> >> files don't exist, and must have deinstalled/installed already 3 times... > > so, pkg_info thinks it installed the executable, > yet, you can't find it. > > I don't know what to check next. > # /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb # locate firefox From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 21:28:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF457106564A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@blueapex.co.uk) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFBE8FC1A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.66.2.54] (zen-gw.ch.dishpower.net [82.68.0.22]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MH9wU-1QtWvh2xQA-00Dmje; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:28:20 +0200 Message-ID: <4E790572.10602@blueapex.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:28:18 +0100 From: Richard Collyer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110902 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1316550882.13474.YahooMailClassic@web121217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1316550882.13474.YahooMailClassic@web121217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:0z2k5mVN/1oyNyiT43N+5g4ExR95M4/JD3PmvKMhrjT stG92abV3psoNc/kSz3/MndwHbM5QsTVoq+vZvmbWjucViSla7 SRRlHXDcsNty9aOiwIDqb0yrBH4kY3+e4/V0Egl3HJusJVBErQ u4aoW5WkAR1HxPVMvmWoLbnq9U2HmtuJHU5PYTxqgMLTt6yEtU cKNTYYKfUtOSIKYs8vxFtjbtfRPOlCKpRLjmuuU4H8Pc+l2xjr 0dmcIb+33cgCn26Oaf7lbt13oc0d5HFpzmHyVRqvBozG5zzNEt 8LCNkMLfDwN9s/fRr1olhs7HYfsHyGlQjK/witQIE1AWCPu83M UfwlhIBfHtjDouf/aqws= Subject: Re: How can I disable hyperthreads, but NOT smp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:28:21 -0000 On 20/09/2011 21:34, Jason Usher wrote: > FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE system with two physical CPUs, each of which are HT capable. From dmesg: > > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 > cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 > > I also see this: > > machdep.hyperthreading_allowed: 0 > > The problem is, I have reason to believe that my workload benefits greatly from SMP, but is not playing nicely with hyperthreading. That is, it is trying to farm out 4 things at a time to a cpu setup that really is only able to do two things at a time. > > How can I disable HT completely, but still retain ALL the benefits of SMP ? > > Thanks. It's usually a setting in the BIOS to disable Hyperthreading then reconfigure the kernel to only use 2 cores (which it might do automatically). Hyperthreading is outside the world of FreeBSD. As far as it knows there is still 4 "logical processors". Disabling hyperthreading it should see 2 LPs. Richard -- Richard Collyer Blue Apex Ltd 07900 997 380 Registered as a company in England and Wales (Reg Number: 05982514). Registered Address: 42 King Richards Hill, Earl Shilton, Leicester, LE9 7EY __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6480 (20110920) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 21:34:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8D81065672 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root1101@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AD98FC0A for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so1173983bkb.13 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:34:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7p+CaDw02Qk8rpqVKRZpn3FeW9tFbQzW427vu2Tmcqo=; b=mmxzVxxp29uMeCpXDIWrJj892mxLN4uKh56Gz2S8TGJvck19CMCEVj2VzPQFC1tc88 SJ83dPFOce5MKaW0u/gD64HmT8BpPhcENjFSEyiQpGSxlo06idanp0rld2GH4CnGINsS PZYmX3Q0Xq9tC5rC05hRw2bB42AjW9Qd7yr7I= Received: by 10.204.145.208 with SMTP id e16mr987548bkv.176.1316554450408; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([91.79.254.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v16sm2681909bkd.6.2011.09.20.14.34.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E7906D0.4080708@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:34:08 +0400 From: =?UTF-8?B?0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lkg0JvQsNC60YLQsNC90L7Qsg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110822 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Whitehouse References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920121635.GA35842@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920124056.GC22274@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920132541.GA36102@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920134042.GA46675@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920134431.GA36250@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920140425.GA50694@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4E78FEE8.7020202@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <4E78FEE8.7020202@onetel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:34:12 -0000 21.09.2011 01:00, Chris Whitehouse пишет: > On 20/09/2011 15:04, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:44:31PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:40:42PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:26:29PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 01:40:56PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:16:35PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 05:53:06AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Alain G. Fabry wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've installed both firefox and firefox36. Neither of them can >>>>>>>>> be found on >>>>>>>>> the system while the installation build and installed without >>>>>>>>> errors >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> afabry@desmo 13:40 % pkg_info | grep firefox >>>>>>>>> firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion >>>>>>>>> of Mozilla >>>>>>>>> firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion >>>>>>>>> of Mozilla >>>>>>>>> afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox >>>>>>>>> firefox: Command not found. >>>>>>>>> afabry@desmo 13:41 % which firefox3 >>>>>>>>> firefox3: Command not found. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> See 'man csh | less -p rehash'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But also these should run with a full path: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> % /usr/local/bin/firefox3 >>>>>>>> % /usr/local/bin/firefox >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Files are just not found on the system... :-( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> afabry@desmo 14:10 % pkg_info | grep firefox >>>>>>> firefox-3.6.22,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of >>>>>>> Mozilla >>>>>>> firefox-6.0.2,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of >>>>>>> Mozilla >>>>>>> afabry@desmo 14:10 % rehash >>>>>>> afabry@desmo 14:14 % /usr/local/bin/firefox >>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/firefox: Command not found. >>>>>>> afabry@desmo 14:12 % ls -l /usr/local/bin/ | grep fire >>>>>>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10108 Sep 7 07:29 aafire >>>>>>> afabry@desmo 14:12 % >>>>>> >>>>>> what about >>>>>> >>>>>> pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 >>>>>> pkg_info -Lx firefox-6 >>>>>> >>>>>> On my system: >>>>>> >>>>>> TZAV> pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 | grep bin >>>>>> /usr/local/bin/firefox3 >>>>>> /usr/local/include/firefox3/gtk2xtbin.h >>>>>> /usr/local/lib/firefox3/bin >>>>>> /usr/local/lib/firefox3/firefox-bin >>>>>> TZAV> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Seems to be ok here ?? >>>>> >>>>> afabry@desmo 15:22 % pkg_info -Lx firefox-3 | grep bin >>>>> /usr/local/bin/firefox3 >>>>> /usr/local/include/firefox3/gtk2xtbin.h >>>>> /usr/local/lib/firefox3/bin >>>>> /usr/local/lib/firefox3/firefox-bin >>>>> afabry@desmo 15:23 % pkg_info -Lx firefox-6 | grep bin >>>>> /usr/local/bin/firefox >>>>> /usr/local/include/firefox/gtk2xtbin.h >>>>> /usr/local/lib/firefox/bin >>>>> /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin >>>>> /usr/local/lib/firefox/searchplugins/bing.xml >>>> >>>> So, what do you get if you now type: >>>> >>>> /usr/local/bin/firefox3 >>>> >>>> or >>>> >>>> /usr/local/bin/firefox >>>> >>>> -- >>> What I mentioned before ;-) 'command not found' >>> >>> afabry@desmo 15:40 % /usr/local/bin/firefox3 >>> /usr/local/bin/firefox3: Command not found. >>> afabry@desmo 15:40 % /usr/local/bin/firefox >>> /usr/local/bin/firefox: Command not found. >>> afabry@desmo 15:41 % >>> >>> files don't exist, and must have deinstalled/installed already 3 >>> times... >> >> so, pkg_info thinks it installed the executable, >> yet, you can't find it. >> >> I don't know what to check next. >> > > # /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb > # locate firefox > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I'd suggest checking the rights on the executable, IMHO this is getting ludicrous From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 21:40:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id 8FE42106566C; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:40:48 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: "Ron (Lists)" Message-ID: <20110920214048.GA92526@freebsd.org> References: <20110920202012.GA79487@freebsd.org> <50fd40410ba56967ef5b939b953b0d43@flabnapple.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50fd40410ba56967ef5b939b953b0d43@flabnapple.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Odd error when doing pkg_version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:40:48 -0000 On Tue Sep 20 11, Ron (Lists) wrote: > >>Starting a couple of days ago, when I run pkg_version I get the > >>following error: > >> > >>/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgdbm.so.3" not found, > >>required > >>by "httpd" > >> > >>Everything seems to run OK except for this message appearing in the > >>middle of the run. I've tried to narrow it down with no real luck. > >> > >>I've tried searching for ports with libgdbm or ld-elf in them and am > >>not finding any (installed or not). > >> > >>Does anyone know where this is coming from and how to fix it? > > > >maybe > > > >portupgrade -f httpd\* > > > >? > > Yeah, I tried looking at that, but I don't have the httpd port > installed or any of the other variations of httpd. Or if I do, it > doesn't show up anywhere that I can see. hmmm....no idea then. sorry. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 21:47:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93BB106566B for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root1101@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577FB8FC14 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:47:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so1185846bkb.13 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:47:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=auInbfzMOdaTwh7UAzrkUIQUA2oCRC3WANAK+Kf7hCc=; b=pGzjZMvMWsz/BctPyKQfhtFxxqN67NBSu16C1gJEupNSHMzB8DIEHIFBor18fF+l6s RtO3enMpU30F1gpKQVg9Bhg1Q+s1/ZvXQRsT3gkBKcT+4QhZe9dfGvddgUGIjYOSgr2G WuKtfm/VfTZAvJKmLuQO2HvArv30XFOpkGTFc= Received: by 10.204.133.8 with SMTP id d8mr961955bkt.235.1316555230114; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([91.79.254.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id af16sm2694377bkc.10.2011.09.20.14.47.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E7909D6.40106@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:47:02 +0400 From: =?UTF-8?B?0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lkg0JvQsNC60YLQsNC90L7Qsg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110822 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Best References: <20110920202012.GA79487@freebsd.org> <50fd40410ba56967ef5b939b953b0d43@flabnapple.net> <20110920214048.GA92526@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20110920214048.GA92526@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "Ron \(Lists\)" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Odd error when doing pkg_version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:47:11 -0000 21.09.2011 01:40, Alexander Best пишет: > On Tue Sep 20 11, Ron (Lists) wrote: >>>> Starting a couple of days ago, when I run pkg_version I get the >>>> following error: >>>> >>>> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgdbm.so.3" not found, >>>> required >>>> by "httpd" >>>> >>>> Everything seems to run OK except for this message appearing in the >>>> middle of the run. I've tried to narrow it down with no real luck. >>>> >>>> I've tried searching for ports with libgdbm or ld-elf in them and am >>>> not finding any (installed or not). >>>> >>>> Does anyone know where this is coming from and how to fix it? >>> maybe >>> >>> portupgrade -f httpd\* >>> >>> ? >> Yeah, I tried looking at that, but I don't have the httpd port >> installed or any of the other variations of httpd. Or if I do, it >> doesn't show up anywhere that I can see. > hmmm....no idea then. sorry. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Perhaps a port built with the httpd support? Have you installed or upgraded anything a couple of days before? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 00:00:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EC5106564A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:00:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB298FC12 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyg7 with SMTP id 7so775870eyg.13 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:00:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KfMpPBlOgdYZ154xE9IuyMVk4oEIFsyyKP4+uH4vVaQ=; b=U3DGUpadvdXBsLLbXE3cBO7w3mMedSfMONIlwYBmM/ngFFZ/Up3uAUlskLeqYkTKGE VgDTFby2npUA/ZYvnS7OPoDAyfIU6THG6cDaeVff3O6I31aXBFFXg3TSUs5xNUUDHHDQ AHAelpwb/r77QPC4URBr0JdzYPcQoO5HyNecg= Received: by 10.216.230.139 with SMTP id j11mr1580519weq.87.1316563220201; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r27sm4605111wbn.10.2011.09.20.17.00.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:00:15 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110921010015.22e2586a@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4E790572.10602@blueapex.co.uk> References: <1316550882.13474.YahooMailClassic@web121217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4E790572.10602@blueapex.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How can I disable hyperthreads, but NOT smp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:00:28 -0000 On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:28:18 +0100 Richard Collyer wrote: > On 20/09/2011 21:34, Jason Usher wrote: > > FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE system with two physical CPUs, each of which > > are HT capable. From dmesg: > > > > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 > > cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 > > > > I also see this: > > > > machdep.hyperthreading_allowed: 0 > > How can I disable HT completely, but still retain ALL the benefits > > of SMP ? > > > > Thanks. > > It's usually a setting in the BIOS to disable Hyperthreading then > reconfigure the kernel to only use 2 cores (which it might do > automatically). > > Hyperthreading is outside the world of FreeBSD. As far as it knows > there is still 4 "logical processors". It's not completely outside; an OS should still be able to determine which logical CPUs are on the same core. And, presumably machdep.hyperthreading_allowed=0 tells the scheduler not to use the additional logical CPUs. I'm wondering if hyperthreading is unused, but the full set of logical CPU is still displayed, or perhaps 6.4 is failing to recognise the hardware. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 01:01:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292C4106566C for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.62.230.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40688FC08 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WildRover.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2] (may be forged)) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA26690 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:01:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201109210101.TAA26690@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:01:13 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Patent expired; time to add protocol to FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:01:12 -0000 Everyone: The Hifn, Inc. patent on the compression used in Microsoft's MPPC protocol expired earlier this year. Shouldn't the code at http://mavhome.dp.ua/MPPC/ at last be added to the source tree to support it? --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 01:40:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5E81065670 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesbrandongooch@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f173.google.com (mail-wy0-f173.google.com [74.125.82.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2672E8FC08 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyh22 with SMTP id 22so1502472wyh.18 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:40:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kHcMZQTOI2NLYl//PjSp9XiOIt1ZzJWV+/UkbqtlujY=; b=ZYMs4EuVuN9KiH6/aUEJ3bJLJC1wDw6ufXWCWJJHbdqxE+mIClx9qnAHk8AVAPI4bB lxN6PBpG0rHv4eG/L60SNsl6gApmf2Hy3zpb9DhVnn/3i+acuSl/jF4H5sx3q3XKZGzX XfwwqajdFAj9AWQkGutdAttU5dUjI89xzjl+4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.163.83 with SMTP id z61mr1577867wek.58.1316569199988; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.131.200 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:39:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E784905.1080007@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:39:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: Brandon Gooch To: Rafael NAVAZA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenLDAP + CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:40:42 -0000 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Rafael NAVAZA wrote: > > Thank you for the reply Matthew. > > I'm indeed using the built in > failover capability of LDAP clients. It works just fine when the first > LDAP server is powered off, but it does not work that well when slapd > becomes a zombi ( because the clients take about 1 min to try the second > =A0LDAP server, for each request, every time ... ) > It is for that reason I'm interested in building a HA cluster for OpenLDA= P. > > I'm > =A0currently using the single-master replication and I will certainly mov= e > =A0to a mirrormode or a n-way multimaster replication schema (as long as > the multimaster is used with CARP, this mode is equivalent to a > mirrormode with more than 2 replicas, isn't it ?). > > As far as I > know CARP will not check if the slapd is running correctly; that could > be a problem if the CARP Master has a failing slapd. Do I have to > monitor slapd with a third party software (like Monit) ? Can I configure > =A0CARP and OpenLDAP to watch each other more closely ? > > Rafael. > Could this help in your situation? http://www.liquidx.net/blog/2006/04/03/nss_ldap-undocumented-nss_reconnect_= tries/ -Brandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 02:28:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442DE106564A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:28:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f173.google.com (mail-wy0-f173.google.com [74.125.82.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35D68FC12 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:28:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyh22 with SMTP id 22so1546231wyh.18 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:28:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GptO0KKr2jUPwOLNpTq4Ozgt0uPx9quQc3Oo9y4D2UI=; b=hgmEZtnfkRlPZVVaym+GHDK869EIJc1IU3JVapG/iJTDJtGY8XUMwrTQ6zshNQg3dX qRYZtaIpwcVOorrw6ZlC5tdTnmal2ZFNeM5Hh6kqFMq3QxDDPX+cdPLWdotRC8S/+xS2 O3UrAP1YcXlKIwY/Aj/nP3kKB6+c42QBtSLRg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.55.5 with SMTP id s5mr70419wbg.92.1316572120297; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.96.97 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:28:40 -0400 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, Jason Usher Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: avg@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How can I disable hyperthreads, but NOT smp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:28:42 -0000 > On 20/09/2011 21:34, Jason Usher wrote: > > FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE system with two physical CPUs, each of which are HT= capable. From dmesg: > > > > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 > > cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 > > > > I also see this: > > > > machdep.hyperthreading_allowed: 0 > > > > The problem is, I have reason to believe that my workload benefits grea= tly from SMP, but is not playing nicely with hyperthreading. That is, it i= s trying to farm out 4 things at a time to a cpu setup that really is only = able to do two things at a time. > > > > How can I disable HT completely, but still retain ALL the benefits of S= MP ? If you are sure about your machine's hardware, and that machdep.hyperthreading_allowed is really set to 0 in loader.conf(5), then you may want to glance at: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/i386/mp_machdep.c?annota= te=3D1.252.2.16 to see where the enforcement of this tunable is failing, and file a PR. Although I have not tried to use them, there are supposed to be alternative mechanisms to disable cpus, or at least to ignore them in certain circumstances: --on recent versions of FreeBSD (> 6) you could use cpuset(1) to ignore some of them in certain circumstances; --on older versions of FreeBSD (< 9) you could use the sysctl machdep.hlt_logical_cpus=3D1 (see smp(4)); --on older versions of FreeBSD (< 9) you could use the sysctl machdep.hlt_cpus to add a bitmap of the logical cpus that you want to disable (see smp(4)); --you can use the loader hint hint.lapic.X.disable=3D1 to disable a cpu with APIC ID X. But note the warnings in the Andriy Gapon's commit message and UPDATING entry for: http://svnweb.FreeBSD.org/base?view=3Drevision&revision=3D222853 > It's usually a setting in the BIOS to disable Hyperthreading then > reconfigure the kernel to only use 2 cores (which it might do > automatically). > > Hyperthreading is outside the world of FreeBSD. As far as it knows there > is still 4 "logical processors". Disabling hyperthreading it should see > 2 LPs. This isn't completely true. Yes, many systems have a BIOS setting to toggle hyperthreading on and off. The loader tunable can be used for those machines that don't have such a setting, or for remote machines for which it is not convenient to change the setting. But FreeBSD attempts to determine if any of the logical cpus are hyperthreads, so that the loader tunable machdep.hyperthreading_allowed can be enforced (it was introduced a long time ago when a security hole was discovered with some early hyperthread implementations), and also because hyperthreads are treated differently from physical cpus with regard to interrupt handling, scheduling (with ULE), ACPI, PMC, etc. So FreeBSD is supposed to be "hyperthread-aware". b. 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ESMTP id 7C4E2106564A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay005.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay005.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036228FC0C for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:20:01 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAHJyeU7DDR9Z/2dsb2JhbABCqFyBUwEBBTocIxAIAxguFCUkLodeBLM1hh1gBJNKkTE Received: from 89.31-13-195.static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.89]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 21 Sep 2011 07:19:59 +0200 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:19:05 +0200 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: Frank Shute Message-ID: <20110921051905.GA1861@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: <20110920053708.GA2051@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920121635.GA35842@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920124056.GC22274@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920132541.GA36102@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920134042.GA46675@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920134431.GA36250@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920164145.GA7704@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110920164145.GA7704@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Lars Eighner Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:20:02 -0000 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 05:41:45PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:44:31PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:40:42PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > > > So, what do you get if you now type: > > > > > > /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > > > > > or > > > > > > /usr/local/bin/firefox > > > > > > -- > > What I mentioned before ;-) 'command not found' > > > > afabry@desmo 15:40 % /usr/local/bin/firefox3 > > /usr/local/bin/firefox3: Command not found. > > afabry@desmo 15:40 % /usr/local/bin/firefox > > /usr/local/bin/firefox: Command not found. > > afabry@desmo 15:41 % > > > > files don't exist, and must have deinstalled/installed already 3 times... > > > > You don't mention how you are installing/deleting. > > Try: > > # pkg_delete -f firefox\* > # cd /usr/ports/www/firefox > # make install clean > # ls -l /usr/local/bin/firefox > I've always installed it from ports, I'll also try the pkg_delete and reinstall from ports as you mentioned. See following settings for install ------ ===> Configuring for firefox-3.6.22,1 (cd /usr/ports/www/firefox36/work/mozilla-1.9.2 && /usr/local/bin/autoconf-2.13) (cd /usr/ports/www/firefox36/work/mozilla-1.9.2/js/src/ && /usr/local/bin/autoconf-2.13) Adding configure options from ./.mozconfig: --prefix=/usr/ports/www/firefox36/work/fake --program-transform-name=s/firefox/firefox3/ --with-default-mozilla-five-home=/usr/local/lib/firefox3 --enable-svg --enable-svg-renderer=cairo --enable-application=browser --enable-official-branding --disable-updater --enable-canvas --enable-libxul --disable-necko-wifi --disable-ipc --with-system-nspr --enable-crypto --disable-tests --enable-default-toolkit=cairo-gtk2 --enable-xft --with-pthreads --x-includes=/usr/local/include --x-libraries=/usr/local/lib --enable-extensions=default --enable-image-decoders=default --enable-necko-protocols=default --with-system-zlib=/usr --with-gssapi=/usr --disable-auto-deps --disable-debug-symbols --enable-chrome-format=jar --disable-cpp-exceptions --disable-cpp-rtti --disable-glibtest --disable-gtktest --disable-freetypetest --enable-double-buffer --enable-mathml --disable-installer --disable-md --disable-pedantic --disable-bidi --disable-xterm-updates --disable-xprint --enable-xinerama --disable-gnomevfs --enable-strip --enable-install-strip --disable-debug --enable-optimize= --disable-logging --disable-gnomeui creating cache ./config.cache ...... -------- All the way at the end I see a stat: /usr/local/bin/firefox3: stat: No such file or directory -------- /usr/bin/find /usr/ports/www/firefox36/work/fake -type l -exec echo stat -f \'/bin/ln -hfs \"%Y\" \"%N\"\' {} + | /usr/bin/sed s'|/usr/ports/www/firefox36/work/fake|/usr/local|g' | /bin/sh | /usr/bin/sed -n s'|/usr/ports/ww w/firefox36/work/fake|/usr/local|p' | /bin/sh -x^M stat: /usr/local/lib/firefox3/lib: stat: No such file or directory^M stat: /usr/local/lib/firefox3/bin: stat: No such file or directory^M stat: /usr/local/lib/firefox3/include: stat: No such file or directory^M stat: /usr/local/lib/firefox3/idl: stat: No such file or directory^M stat: /usr/local/bin/firefox3: stat: No such file or directory^M /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/share/applications /usr/local/share/pixmaps^M install -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/www/firefox36/work/firefox3.desktop /usr/local/share/applications/^M /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/firefox3/chrome/icons/default^M /bin/ln -sf /usr/local/lib/firefox3/chrome/icons/default/default48.png /usr/local/share/pixmaps/firefox3.png^M ======================================================================^M ^M SMB issues:^M Network group, machine, and share browsing does not work correctly.^M ^M SFTP:^M Only sftp access using public key authentication works. To easily^M setup public key authentication to "remote_host":^M ^M ssh-keygen -t dsa^M cat ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub | ssh remote_host "cat >> .ssh/authorized_keys"^M ^M The SSH server on remote_host must allow pub key authentication.^M ^M ======================================================================^M ^M ----------- But don't break you head over this strange issue. If I can't find a solution soon, I'll take the opportunity to reinstall latest release, currently running 7.0 release. Thanks, Alain > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 05:20:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2302E106566C for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:20:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f173.google.com (mail-wy0-f173.google.com [74.125.82.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52208FC0C for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyh22 with SMTP id 22so1701941wyh.18 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:20:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=n1oq72KxTM1LReVqFE4TQfKH53HgJk51AzYxhMb/b88=; b=GFuA1K0hl64V2rXDebfaPrZXqoyuSsfNk/FF21+wEzcGJ1FQBSU63Xgmr5yT1gTlzJ YzR/dFDwmQye8SmPcUKiIKRNN5a1z6wHQcKoqgGXKRogLeHoTmf3L0ac9QO9l51vXh7p W3xlFXoXr92W/k8sBZR0cWQsi8wMaYHgBHcGI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.55.5 with SMTP id s5mr185970wbg.92.1316582441603; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.96.97 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:20:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, deepak kumar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: Download manpages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:20:43 -0000 > Hello Matthew, > I'm trying to download section 2 and section 1 for freebsd commands and > system calls ? Is there a specific manpage that you are missing? A cursory glance shows that these sections are populated: sh -c 'cd /tmp ; for i in a b c d e f g ; do fetch -ampv "http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/8.2-RELEASE/manpages/manpages.a${i}" ; done ; cat manpages.?? > manpages.tar.gz ; mkdir manpages82 ; tar -C manpages82 -xvf manpages.tar.gz; ls manpages82/usr/share/man/man[12]' ... b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 05:44:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD4E1065672 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay007.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E10B8FC08 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 89.31-13-195.static.isp.belgacom.be (HELO localhost) ([195.13.31.89]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 21 Sep 2011 07:44:09 +0200 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:43:15 +0200 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: Chris Whitehouse Message-ID: <20110921054315.GB1861@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: <20110920114254.GA94013@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920121635.GA35842@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920124056.GC22274@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920132541.GA36102@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920134042.GA46675@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20110920134431.GA36250@desmo.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <20110920140425.GA50694@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4E78FEE8.7020202@onetel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E78FEE8.7020202@onetel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:44:19 -0000 --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:00:24PM +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > On 20/09/2011 15:04, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:44:31PM +0200, Alain G. Fabry wrote: > > > >so, pkg_info thinks it installed the executable, > >yet, you can't find it. > > > >I don't know what to check next. > > > > # /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb > # locate firefox > _______________________________________________ Since I don't want to spam the list, probably last response unless good idea comes along, but suggestion from Anton result in executable not found See attached txt > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="locate_firefox.txt" /data/afabry/.kde/share/apps/kicker/firefox3-2.desktop /data/afabry/.kde/share/apps/kicker/firefox3.desktop /data/afabry/.local/share/Trash/info/firefox-bin.core.trashinfo /data/afabry/.local/share/Trash/info/firefox-bin_1.core.trashinfo /data/afabry/.mozilla/firefox 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/var/db/pkg/firefox-3.6.22,1/+DEINSTALL /var/db/pkg/firefox-3.6.22,1/+DESC /var/db/pkg/firefox-3.6.22,1/+DISPLAY /var/db/pkg/firefox-3.6.22,1/+INSTALL /var/db/pkg/firefox-3.6.22,1/+MTREE_DIRS /var/db/pkg/firefox-6.0.2,1 /var/db/pkg/firefox-6.0.2,1/+COMMENT /var/db/pkg/firefox-6.0.2,1/+CONTENTS /var/db/pkg/firefox-6.0.2,1/+DEINSTALL /var/db/pkg/firefox-6.0.2,1/+DESC /var/db/pkg/firefox-6.0.2,1/+DISPLAY /var/db/pkg/firefox-6.0.2,1/+INSTALL /var/db/pkg/firefox-6.0.2,1/+MTREE_DIRS /var/db/ports/firefox /var/db/ports/firefox/options /var/db/ports/firefox3 /var/db/ports/firefox35 /var/db/ports/firefox35/options /var/db/ports/firefox36 /var/db/ports/firefox36/options --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 06:46:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383F61065675 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 06:46:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mark.VanDerMeulen@travelex.com.au) Received: from mail02.travelex.com.au (mail02.travelex.com.au [203.44.27.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816248FC17 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 06:46:28 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,415,1312120800"; d="scan'208,217";a="5754319" X-IP-AUO-DISC: True Received: from unknown (HELO au-syd-ex-001.apac.travelex.net) ([172.22.29.6]) by mail02.travelex.com.au with ESMTP; 21 Sep 2011 16:17:09 +1000 Received: from AU-SYD-EX-VS1.apac.travelex.net ([172.22.29.22]) by au-syd-ex-001.apac.travelex.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:17:09 +1000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:17:03 +1000 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Postmap Issue Thread-Index: Acx4JhTAi2vVNcgqR++rpSBQ2ofe7g== From: "Van Der Meulen, Mark" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2011 06:17:09.0201 (UTC) FILETIME=[17E70C10:01CC7826] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Postmap Issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 06:46:29 -0000 Hi All, Has anyone seen this error when running postmap on FreeBSD 8.X? mail# postmap /usr/local/etc/postfix/transport /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libmysqlclient.so.18" not found, required by "postmap" If not, does anyone have some advice on better places to look? Google search has been fruitless. =20 P.S. mySQL is installed, and postfix was installed with mySQL support. =20 Thanks! =20 Mark ***************************************************************************= **** Travelex - www.travelex.com Travelex Outsourcing Pty Limited [Currency Select businesss] is a limited c= ompany registered in Australia with company number: 127 747 586. Information in this email including any attachment ('email') is confidentia= l,=20 may be privileged and is intended solely for the addressee. Unauthorised=20 recipients are requested to preserve the confidentiality of this email, adv= ise=20 the sender immediately of any error in transmission, and then delete the em= ail from the recipient's mailbox without making copies. Any disclosure, copying= ,=20 distribution or action taken, or omitted to be taken, in reliance upon the=20 contents of this email by unauthorised recipients is prohibited and may be unlawful. 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It= is=20 therefore recommended that all emails should be scanned for viruses. ***************************************************************************= **** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 07:04:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BC6106564A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604028FC12 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so1483623qyk.13 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:04:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VKIQnUTt21FJwWRR/KWZFyQ4O4Yo9TzXhsu4cg10yug=; b=EitMYd2It0vR7O2m8TlngK1gx9RSh9vX9QEXP+qQSewWiTgV662oC8UAtWWW69b5ai G9EdHjCI1Blu7wSQyd+DHgzF3MBxp4lO0DGVMUln8Jl+TchnA57pMKkiwMU5xHzWXCRP JH0ZeZ5r7itfO61hYH3c+UnlGmUpAH2XCNBNs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.1.145 with SMTP id 17mr224188qcf.34.1316586857798; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.52.5 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 00:34:17 -0600 Message-ID: From: Modulok To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: How to find out which version of PF a given box is using... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:04:21 -0000 List, Is there an easy way to find out what version of PF a given FreeBSD version is using? Currently I'm doing this: grep -iE '\bpf\b' /usr/src/UPDATING Just wondering if I'm missing something. I didn't see any '--version' flag in pfctl. -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 07:34:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041DA106564A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:34:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627648FC15 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8L7Ymup064962 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:34:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8L7Ymup064962 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1316590488; bh=qBO+QGITttqL84IuDIzG1Yg24pXYkDPb1MXjteUn9C4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E799390.2040303@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2021=20Sep=202011=2008:34:40=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/2 0110902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Modulok=20|CC:=20FreeBSD=20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20How=20to=20find=20out=20which=20versi on=20of=20PF=20a=20given=20box=20is=20using...|References:=20| In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60 AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B= 0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary =3D"------------enigE947B8B1511428CB997C19D0"; b=pHU6OktNApn0eQMUhTX7VyBlinod/TEWkmt8mvP+dEn2fJmX+WIlAHJQrS+Pf7HMV n3R8VM9jGi42fMzF7u6GlnzESLHskn3ZeGCPkHrBmucb0jx4bghEsdngrZCA1gxVvg E7u1/78sEZeUE8uaOvA/LamCUSkguqMddExLOUfo= Message-ID: <4E799390.2040303@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:34:40 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Modulok References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE947B8B1511428CB997C19D0" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How to find out which version of PF a given box is using... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:34:53 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE947B8B1511428CB997C19D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/09/2011 07:34, Modulok wrote: > Is there an easy way to find out what version of PF a given FreeBSD ver= sion is > using? Currently I'm doing this: >=20 > grep -iE '\bpf\b' /usr/src/UPDATING >=20 > Just wondering if I'm missing something. I didn't see any '--version' > flag in pfctl. Uh -- bpf is a different thing to PF. bpf is Berkeley Packet Filter which isn't anything to do with firewalling, but used eg. by tcpdump to select certain packets from the wire. As far as I know, bpf doesn't have a separate version number; it just uses the OS version number. It's been part of BSD Unices since dinosaurs roamed the earth. PF is the firewalling code imported from OpenBSD. Again, it's part of the base system in OpenBSD so it just uses the OpenBSD version number. Every so often there will be a new import from OpenBSD -- I believe most released versions of FreeBSD are using PF from OpenBSD 4.2, but there is an update to OpenBSD 4.mumble in the works for the upcoming FreeBSD 9.0 release. You'ld have to check the commit history in CVS or SVN to be sur= e. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigE947B8B1511428CB997C19D0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk55k5cACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw6MwCfQYe6Jur1fUS4+j3DWX5Mg4MA 8UUAn0mQ7gZ6GAyFr/IUINc1a/rXvdtG =UFY3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE947B8B1511428CB997C19D0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 07:37:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF565106564A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB058FC18 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p8L7ac73068080; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:36:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:36:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201109210736.p8L7ac73068080@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mark.VanDerMeulen@travelex.com.au In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: Re: Postmap Issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:37:10 -0000 First things first. _PLEASE_ !!! Do not post from an account that includes these _stupid_ and *LEGALLY*WORTHLESS* quote disclaimers unquote. They are "not worth the electrons they're printed on". They _do_ accomplish ONE thing -- they make the sender look like an idiot, and =discourage= some people (those who _know_ what garbage those disclaimers are) from offering helpful information. People too uninformed to recognize that such nonsense is being attached to their messages, or too incompetent as to seek out an email service that does _not_ perform msuch sutpidities, are _unlikely_ to be mentally alert enough to profit from advice offered. > Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:17:03 +1000 > From: "Van Der Meulen, Mark" > Subject: Postmap Issue > > ************************************************************************** > ***** Travelex - www.travelex.com > > Travelex Outsourcing Pty Limited [Currency Select businesss] is a limited > company registered in Australia with company number: 127 747 586. > > Information in this email including any attachment ('email') is > confidential, may be privileged and is intended solely for the addressee. > Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve the confidentiality of > this email, advise the sender immediately of any error in transmission, > and then delete the email from the recipient's mailbox without making > copies. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken, or omitted > to be taken, in reliance upon the contents of this email by unauthorised > recipients is prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Please note that no contracts or commitments may be concluded on behalf > of Travelex Outsourcing Pty Limited [Currency Select businesss] or its > groups of companies ('Travelex') by means of email, and no statement or > representation made in this email is binding on behalf of Travelex. > > DISCLAIMER: Whilst this message has been scanned for viruses, Travelex > disclaims any responsibility or liability for viruses contained therein. > It is therefore recommended that all emails should be scanned for > viruses. > ************************************************************************** > ***** > > Hi All, > > Has anyone seen this error when running postmap on FreeBSD 8.X? > > mail# postmap /usr/local/etc/postfix/transport > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libmysqlclient.so.18" not found, > required by "postmap" > > If not, does anyone have some advice on better places to look? Google > search has been fruitless. > > > > P.S. mySQL is installed, and postfix was installed with mySQL support. This may be a 'version mismatch' between an existing 'libmysqlclient.so' and what postmap expects run a find(1) for "libmysqlclient.so**' and see what it reports, an in what directories. use option '-ls' so you can see permissions as well as mere file existeance. See also 'man ldconfig'. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 08:06:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8EA106564A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FD08FC08 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8L85sfw065367 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:05:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8L85sfw065367 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1316592355; bh=Ogr2pBRHABc9TuoFoyXHgK+ovX9A97jntNEzE4AZS34=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E799ADB.2090301@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2021=20Sep=202011=2009:05:47=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/2 0110902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Modulok=20|CC:=20FreeBSD=20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20How=20to=20find=20out=20which=20versi on=20of=20PF=20a=20given=20box=20is=20using...|References:=20= 20<4E799390.2040303@infracaninophile.co.uk>|In-Reply-To:=20<4E7993 90.2040303@infracaninophile.co.uk>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.1|Ope nPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg =3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0 D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigA3279DBFB7E7B24923F4BCD9"; b=HcmMn+2yWgHZIi+rh5AyX/oUhjQ39ssjPUKTIXtRz+5nSeVgpxTt7OgGSYkIoIJkS Aoohlknx/qBsrmtuTTheQggCU3Zflw+ZtUvsra/fZ6NgYkMOshRoVrdXUj9lGDD3J0 c0TTRy6eEygcipfSoHyKGkcIZYVp2GjgnCbPgLn8= Message-ID: <4E799ADB.2090301@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:05:47 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Modulok References: <4E799390.2040303@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4E799390.2040303@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigA3279DBFB7E7B24923F4BCD9" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How to find out which version of PF a given box is using... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:06:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigA3279DBFB7E7B24923F4BCD9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/09/2011 08:34, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 21/09/2011 07:34, Modulok wrote: >> Is there an easy way to find out what version of PF a given FreeBSD ve= rsion is >> using? Currently I'm doing this: >> >> grep -iE '\bpf\b' /usr/src/UPDATING >> >> Just wondering if I'm missing something. I didn't see any '--version' >> flag in pfctl. >=20 > Uh -- bpf is a different thing to PF. bpf is Berkeley Packet Filter > which isn't anything to do with firewalling, but used eg. by tcpdump to= > select certain packets from the wire. As far as I know, bpf doesn't > have a separate version number; it just uses the OS version number. > It's been part of BSD Unices since dinosaurs roamed the earth. One of these days I'll learn not to send e-mail before coffee. Please ignore the above -- red herring. > PF is the firewalling code imported from OpenBSD. Again, it's part of > the base system in OpenBSD so it just uses the OpenBSD version number. > Every so often there will be a new import from OpenBSD -- I believe mos= t > released versions of FreeBSD are using PF from OpenBSD 4.2, but there i= s > an update to OpenBSD 4.mumble in the works for the upcoming FreeBSD 9.0= > release. You'ld have to check the commit history in CVS or SVN to be s= ure. In fact, the last import listed as such in the CVS history was from OpenBSD 4.1 but that was around 2007 when FreeBSD was on version 6.x -- long time ago. There's been plenty of updates since (which, IIRC, made the FreeBSD code pretty much equivalent to what is in OpenBSD 4.2), but no wholesale reimport until about 2 months ago, when OpenBSD 4.5 code was imported into head. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=3Drevision&revision=3D223637 AFAIK, that is not a candidate for MFC to stable/8 or earlier, as it modifies KBIs. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigA3279DBFB7E7B24923F4BCD9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk55muIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwBQgCeI033ZPnZhPuzCn858sqZOAol 85cAn3a3KWmKILG7GrUrtC1JHHZKfxM2 =vWYm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigA3279DBFB7E7B24923F4BCD9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 08:14:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B85106566B for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [94.23.254.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4858FC12 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr12941.univ-rennes1.fr (mr129041.cri.univ-rennes1.fr [129.20.129.41]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 110B4FAA2C87; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:14:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mr12941 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mr12941.univ-rennes1.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A857D7A000B; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:14:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:14:21 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: Rafael NAVAZA Message-ID: <20110921101421.7c54d972@mr12941> In-Reply-To: References: <4E784905.1080007@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.24.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenLDAP + CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:14:24 -0000 Le Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:02:47 +0200, Rafael NAVAZA a écrit : Hello, > As far as I > know CARP will not check if the slapd is running correctly; that > could be a problem if the CARP Master has a failing slapd. Do I have > to monitor slapd with a third party software (like Monit) ? Can I > configure CARP and OpenLDAP to watch each other more closely ? You can use ifstated (port net/ifstated) for this. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 08:17:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBFB106566B for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7FA8FC16 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:17:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf2 with SMTP id 2so1217920gyf.13 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:17:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Z4NlNu2nq8HCWYVln02ZXxHTdt6NwQLcbUW3nCif0ik=; b=kO4a/eJ7wTNNPqMoSoI/QRfRvYCNrnhjVOIAzWjpUSdt2BPCfz/yBgJoD6/6LFoFXk EAQv1s12XkCqqSmrwOkFcYRWV0xQE5/kSSYQ1yU4WJlb68wDt5CjFR47btH8BpReJHR/ 2CjLyeWrOvciBsn+SADQ3su58I3ZhYnHbsh8s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.77.104 with SMTP id c68mr2973151yhe.69.1316593028513; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.105.166 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:17:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E799ADB.2090301@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4E799390.2040303@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4E799ADB.2090301@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:17:08 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Modulok Subject: Re: How to find out which version of PF a given box is using... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:17:09 -0000 On 21 September 2011 09:05, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 21/09/2011 08:34, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 21/09/2011 07:34, Modulok wrote: > >> Is there an easy way to find out what version of PF a given FreeBSD > version is > >> using? Currently I'm doing this: > >> > >> grep -iE '\bpf\b' /usr/src/UPDATING > >> > >> Just wondering if I'm missing something. I didn't see any '--version' > >> flag in pfctl. > > > > Uh -- bpf is a different thing to PF. bpf is Berkeley Packet Filter > > which isn't anything to do with firewalling, but used eg. by tcpdump to > > select certain packets from the wire. As far as I know, bpf doesn't > > have a separate version number; it just uses the OS version number. > > It's been part of BSD Unices since dinosaurs roamed the earth. > > One of these days I'll learn not to send e-mail before coffee. Please > ignore the above -- red herring. > > > PF is the firewalling code imported from OpenBSD. Again, it's part of > > the base system in OpenBSD so it just uses the OpenBSD version number. > > Every so often there will be a new import from OpenBSD -- I believe most > > released versions of FreeBSD are using PF from OpenBSD 4.2, but there is > > an update to OpenBSD 4.mumble in the works for the upcoming FreeBSD 9.0 > > release. You'ld have to check the commit history in CVS or SVN to be > sure. > > In fact, the last import listed as such in the CVS history was from > OpenBSD 4.1 but that was around 2007 when FreeBSD was on version 6.x -- > long time ago. There's been plenty of updates since (which, IIRC, made > the FreeBSD code pretty much equivalent to what is in OpenBSD 4.2), but > no wholesale reimport until about 2 months ago, when OpenBSD 4.5 code > was imported into head. > > http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=223637 > > AFAIK, that is not a candidate for MFC to stable/8 or earlier, as it > modifies KBIs. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > If its been syncd to openbsd 4.5 version of pf, its still quite a way behind openbsd's version in the latest release as they are not on 4.9 with 5.0 imminent. Looking at the docs there were quite a lot of changes when openbsd was bumped to 4.7 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 08:33:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43FE1065670 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:33:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6A08FC0A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8L8Xibx065836 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:33:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8L8Xibx065836 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1316594026; bh=VulMbzjxNtHsV5SPaqdrUgQ98XDTGTwDoYreYaLM+JI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E79A163.7050309@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2021=20Sep=202011=2009:33:39=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/2 0110902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20"Van=20Der=2 0Meulen,=20Mark"=20|CC:=20freeb sd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Postmap=20Issue|Referenc es:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.1 |OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20mi calg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"= 3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig2C90CD6112C8C625ECF6979B"; b=UCZCpdAZ5Sc6o8HsFLnwYcrC19t0jXKJcqaH2CryehgCnCc+E0uvslbFvMLCGCN08 h/McFcspokHCHuwrRo5464I1Ln3ZNDqxuIWZscy9YAlpt7feyrVm+1+qBRvR3vNlHu dYnM3Fme8LTr9LgiDQlmzaoW3pemJKfxBhXXmYSM= Message-ID: <4E79A163.7050309@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:33:39 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Van Der Meulen, Mark" References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2C90CD6112C8C625ECF6979B" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Postmap Issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:33:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2C90CD6112C8C625ECF6979B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/09/2011 07:17, Van Der Meulen, Mark wrote: > mail# postmap /usr/local/etc/postfix/transport >=20 > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libmysqlclient.so.18" not found, > required by "postmap" What version of mysql client do you have installed? libmysqlclient.so.18 comes from databases/mysql55-client which became the default MySQL version about 6 months ago. There are two ways you can get this problem: 1) Incompatible version of MySQL client installed: If you use binary packages from the FreeBSD ftp servers, they will be compiled against mysql55 shared libs nowadays. If you instal from ports, it will automatically link against whatever version of MySQL client you have installed. However, if you had installed an older version of MySQL it wouldn't automatically get upgraded to MySQL 5.5.x -- that you'ld have to do manually. So updating via pkgs could lead to the situation you see -- except you should have run into it about 6 months ago... As I recall, the MySQL 5.1 to 5.5 upgrade is not particularly onerous, but if you're upgrading MySQL server at the same time, you need to take the DB down while you're doing the updates, and you need to run the 'mysql-after-upgrade' stuff to applie various changes to the standard DB schema. 2) Correct version of mysql-client installed, but ld.so can't find the libmysqlclient shlib So, assuming you've got mysql-client-5.5.x installed -- The MySQL ports install their shlibs into /usr/local/lib/mysql/ and add that to the default list of paths for ld.so to search. That should be automatic, but maybe something went wrong. What does: ldconfig -r | grep 'search directories' return? How about ldconfig -r | grep 'mysql' ? If /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.18 is missing from the above, then you can fix things up by: ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib/mysql Cheers Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig2C90CD6112C8C625ECF6979B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk55oWgACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz5GACbB8IG/X2L/JCl4k1ux6pQ2ae6 izgAoInR9eDi7uoFWBsaiIRo4T7NvXXx =2ouA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2C90CD6112C8C625ECF6979B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 08:49:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83052106568E for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07018FC18 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8L8nMa2066093 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:49:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8L8nMa2066093 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1316594962; bh=msh25n1Fre/MhgUvTE2XGVmKCDkpi3fGLN2+TYxBVtA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E79A50C.1070900@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2021=20Sep=202011=2009:49:16=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/2 0110902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20krad=20|CC:=20Modulok=20,=20=0D=0A=20Free BSD=20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=2 0How=20to=20find=20out=20which=20version=20of=20PF=20a=20given=20b ox=20is=20using...|References:=20=20<4E799390.2040303@infracan inophile.co.uk>=20<4E799ADB.2090301@infracaninophile.co.uk>=20|I n-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE9 08C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D= 0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D "------------enig4A5B03A08ADEC44E0E73F3E1"; b=ZPkZFd5hSFVyVhxKyynrwkj4uv6lo0So4xxkMncZF/3mGU3Q1lDyOUK5ZAhn5chyM uynbGJde5hqqGKL0rdLVsY9oe0YPp8SzKDocbeIn+EVB/wOeFzYYqLLZ8C+nso25Wm T2uJ+dbhzzAb1iO4m4v4iuEDHTwQkHIG2yH1wjAw= Message-ID: <4E79A50C.1070900@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:49:16 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: krad References: <4E799390.2040303@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4E799ADB.2090301@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4A5B03A08ADEC44E0E73F3E1" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Modulok Subject: Re: How to find out which version of PF a given box is using... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:49:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4A5B03A08ADEC44E0E73F3E1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/09/2011 09:17, krad wrote: > If its been syncd to openbsd 4.5 version of pf, its still quite a way b= ehind > openbsd's version in the latest release as they are not on 4.9 with 5.0= > imminent. Looking at the docs there were quite a lot of changes when op= enbsd > was bumped to 4.7 Yes. However I believe this does solve the incompatibility between PF and vimage, which is fantastic. There's been a lot of work gone into FreeBSD network stack to add capabilities that OpenBSD simply doesn't have -- mostly to do with fine-grained locking, multiprocessing support and virtualization -- all of which makes the importing process pretty non-trivial. Cheers, Matthew PS. Mac OS X Lion now uses PF for firewalling too. Apparently it's even older than the PF in FreeBSD: http://quigon.bsws.de/papers/2011/pf10yrs/mgp00078.html --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig4A5B03A08ADEC44E0E73F3E1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk55pRIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxWrACfe6oVQyk9j7K2FXccNWLxMYYC CJ0Anjlxc+sr7buOR1i31n8Kn7e8UZib =qq70 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4A5B03A08ADEC44E0E73F3E1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 09:20:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64491065670 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elof2@sentor.se) Received: from deliverator.sentor.se (deliverator.sentor.se [195.178.169.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A758A8FC15 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliverator.sentor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B66A30732 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:05:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:05:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Elof Ofel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Run different kernel subsystems with different priorities X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:20:36 -0000 Hi! Q1: Is it possible to set different NICE priorities on different kernel subsystems? For example, can I prioritize the interrupt handling of the NIC bge1 ([irq23: bge1]) over the interrupt handling of NIC bge0 ([irq22: bge0])? ...and can I make the usb subsystem ([usb0], [usb1], [usb2], [usb3]) less prioritized than pretty much everything else? When running 'ps faxuwl', I see that all processess on my system is running with NICE value 0. Q2: When assigning custom NICE priotities to my userland processes, what levels should one use? Is there any recommendation to follow? If I intend to have three levels, high, medium and unimportant, should I use the values 0 10 20 or 0 1 2 or 0 50 100 or -1 0 1 or -1 5 10 or something different? /Elof From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 09:34:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDA4106566C for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:34:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnavaza@hotmail.com) Received: from dub0-omc4-s3.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc4-s3.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.2.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977098FC1A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DUB102-W55 ([157.55.2.71]) by dub0-omc4-s3.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:34:18 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.194.42.137] From: Rafael NAVAZA To: freebsd questions Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:34:17 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: , <4E784905.1080007@infracaninophile.co.uk>, , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2011 09:34:18.0887 (UTC) FILETIME=[A2F1E170:01CC7841] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: OpenLDAP + CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:34:20 -0000 > > > > I'm indeed using the built in > > failover capability of LDAP clients. It works just fine when the first > > LDAP server is powered off=2C but it does not work that well when slapd > > becomes a zombi ( because the clients take about 1 min to try the secon= d > > LDAP server=2C for each request=2C every time ... ) > > It is for that reason I'm interested in building a HA cluster for OpenL= DAP. > > > > >=20 > Could this help in your situation? >=20 > http://www.liquidx.net/blog/2006/04/03/nss_ldap-undocumented-nss_reconnec= t_tries/ >=20 Hello Brandon=2C That is a client side solution for Linux and I have several other OSs that = use LDAP. But I remember some users at work that sometimes had udev timeout when boot= ing their CentOS 5 workstation=2C thank you for the link. Rafael. = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 09:38:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36131065675 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnavaza@hotmail.com) Received: from dub0-omc4-s17.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc4-s17.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.2.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDAD8FC13 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DUB102-W31 ([157.55.2.71]) by dub0-omc4-s17.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:38:08 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [81.194.42.137] From: Rafael NAVAZA To: freebsd questions Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:38:10 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20110921101421.7c54d972@mr12941> References: , <4E784905.1080007@infracaninophile.co.uk>, , <20110921101421.7c54d972@mr12941> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2011 09:38:08.0962 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C148A20:01CC7842] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: OpenLDAP + CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:38:11 -0000 Hello Patrick=2C >=20 > > As far as I=20 > > know CARP will not check if the slapd is running correctly=3B that > > could be a problem if the CARP Master has a failing slapd. Do I have > > to monitor slapd with a third party software (like Monit) ? Can I > > configure CARP and OpenLDAP to watch each other more closely ? >=20 > You can use ifstated (port net/ifstated) for this. >=20 Ok=2C I'll watch at what ifstated can do to monitor carp and slapd Thank you. = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 09:42:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1FF106566B for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2E18FC1E for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:42:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8L9ghkp093144 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:42:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8L9ghkp093144 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1316598163; bh=nhYP3b7Yv0afIMEnx0OwqLFIh+ySScA96yZSUTRYVyg=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E79B18C.1000106@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2021=20Sep=202011=2010:42:36=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/2 0110902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Rafael=20NAV AZA=20|CC:=20freebsd=20questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20OpenLDAP=20+=20CARP|Referen ces:=20,=20<4E784905. 1080007@infracaninophile.co.uk>,=20,=20=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X- Enigmail-Version:=201.3.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=2 0multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"ap plication/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig24 26C700149FC6243EB36978"; b=UXCH6VCkTQk8uVs9A4vOY4OrJ+YzfHTj9/+9BaaN9gcLbvRK1ipigymtNyIVsHa+o +gCmJV03df/iSCoVZNWcMrMyER/74/kg93+LbOJhSbZp6yJ2uuqw7VuQVvqYqXJnTI OhMUGeDOjJzOXpeuOzgmQdAw9hQWt2En1DjYUkCw= Message-ID: <4E79B18C.1000106@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:42:36 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rafael NAVAZA References: , <4E784905.1080007@infracaninophile.co.uk>, , In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2426C700149FC6243EB36978" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd questions Subject: Re: OpenLDAP + CARP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:42:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2426C700149FC6243EB36978 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/09/2011 10:34, Rafael NAVAZA wrote: >> Could this help in your situation? >> > http://www.liquidx.net/blog/2006/04/03/nss_ldap-undocumented-nss_rec= onnect_tries/ > That is a client side solution for Linux and I have several other OSs t= hat use LDAP. No -- it's OS independent. You obviously won't get udev timeouts on FreeBSD, but 'bind_policy soft' is a solution to similar timeouts you'ld get in FreeBSD. In fact, it's the standard advice on FreeBSD lists when setting up a box to use LDAP. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig2426C700149FC6243EB36978 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk55sZIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyN2wCeMs3/BndNv77uAoNqxUa11FNt amkAniZokLi5U49myil5oU7bL/fgvfRp =BV+l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2426C700149FC6243EB36978-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 09:48:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B179106566C for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:48:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from basarevych@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f44.google.com (mail-vw0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283418FC18 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:48:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5so2343993vws.17 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:48:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cLzPbwwrc9A/1ekRsfLqug71WPZWIe4joJPQnWUvfrs=; b=KWDsqiD/QrXodVBilGbRwMpVS40lUXMyWLwvysRHCffu9TxnwcGbKN6Rl+L5miCuuA LJklgJyoOfUghqA0JOOr/PfAIDZvzFUh4r/hJmrZDKVqDx+dvaIbOkAmsizI2rFKNQRF ABbiF/VGKY/vlODigGFPc2TM0LH+g+IoOCQqg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.99.142 with SMTP id u14mr102880vcn.46.1316598505775; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.171.197 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:48:25 +0300 Message-ID: From: Ross To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: UFS journal size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:48:28 -0000 Quoting the manpage: -s jsize Specifies size of the journal if only one provider is used for both data and journal. The default is one gigabyte. Size should be chosen based on provider's load, and not on its size; recommended minimum is twice the size of the physical memory installed. It is not recommended to use gjournal for small file systems (e.g.: only few gigabytes big). My question is: if I have 4 or 8 GB of RAM should I create 8 or even 16 GB journals?.. This seems huge especially if the fs size without journal is only 10 gigs. Or the recommended minimum is for systems low on RAM? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 10:41:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6577E1065672 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5568FC08 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:41:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8LAfFoX094008 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:41:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8LAfFoX094008 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1316601676; bh=+6cgG+njxo2aJkOV8Y9a4OZwE+jrZONhGzfm7iEZOB0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E79BF44.206@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Wed,= 2021=20Sep=202011=2011:41:08=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Macin tosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/20110 902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Ross=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=2 0UFS=20journal=20size|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Eni gmail-Version:=201.3.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20mu ltipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"appli cation/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigE675F 24E571D1F9E8D92D284"; b=UaaW182kdpmdwZCkdcaLxhOhuuXogq0hZF9tiljqV+2YVH8z7lLbIjCiHOoqFvRu2 BbhEFk2yxP64XSORrcaFvWDbImCY0c0Asc8pzQg8jkUGhhPg8QoC8A62wwQDVrYOls 3tLRz0V6Hbp+sCVjbRcZIXgCfNxNbknvSzRB6U0I= Message-ID: <4E79BF44.206@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:41:08 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE675F24E571D1F9E8D92D284" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS journal size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:41:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE675F24E571D1F9E8D92D284 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/09/2011 10:48, Ross wrote: > Quoting the manpage: >=20 > -s jsize Specifies size of the journal if only one provider i= s > used for both data and journal. The default is = one > gigabyte. Size should be chosen based on provid= er's > load, and not on its size; recommended minimum i= s twice > the size of the physical memory installed. It i= s not > recommended to use gjournal for small file syste= ms > (e.g.: only few gigabytes big). >=20 > My question is: if I have 4 or 8 GB of RAM should I create 8 or even > 16 GB journals?.. This seems huge especially if the fs size without > journal is only 10 gigs. Or the recommended minimum is for systems low > on RAM? How much churn do you expect in the data on that partition? A journal that's about the same size as the actual filesystem in question and on the same physical device is not really going to get you any advantages. If it's mostly going to be read rather than written, then you wouldn't fill up that size of journal in any case. The 'twice physical RAM' advice is all about achieving maximum performance on large filesystems with lots of data writes: if write performance is not actually a limiting factor, then you could get away with a much smaller or even no journal at all. You might just as well use plain UFS+Softupdates. Softupdates to provide the meta-data ordering feature, so that if you do crash and need to fsck the filesystem, there's not going to be any really nasty stuff to fix. Plain UFS because a filesystem of that size will take about as long to fsck as it would to replay all the journalled but uncommitted updates. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigE675F24E571D1F9E8D92D284 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk55v0sACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyT2QCfYOs3JLgFKSChtskTMKNoCijv /wYAoIhh1ZrB4YNs/OjbDKvpzI7NMeqF =VT/b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE675F24E571D1F9E8D92D284-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 11:17:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27F4106564A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s7.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s7.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CFA8FC08 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP309 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s7.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 04:17:29 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.182.105.57] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.105.57]) by BLU0-SMTP309.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 04:17:27 -0700 Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3S3dhk6bFdz2CG54 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:17:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:17:26 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2011 11:17:28.0156 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C0961C0:01CC7850] Subject: Using RPM to extract file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:17:30 -0000 I am attempting to obtain a PPD file for a Brother MFC-9560CDW printer. According to this URL: , I can download a file from: for this printer. Unfortunately, the file is only available in either "RPM" or "DEB" format. I cannot figure out how to extract the "PPD" from "RPM" file. I have read "man rpm"; however, I am still confused. I tried following the instruction given on the site for extracting the files; however, that only issued a warning about an incorrect operating system. Perhaps someone has some advice on how to go about this. I contacted Brother in regards to this but they said they only support Windows (obviously), Linux and Debian. According to them, support for other operating systems in not being considered presently due to a lack of consumer demand and the overhead involved. -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 12:09:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8D21065672 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kron24@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FED8FC14 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxg9 with SMTP id 9so2096908fxg.13 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:09:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MWLUNbsEzfcCTfzsiVjX4khWnPdyDRKipMSTqcMsKcw=; b=QPev5NXkj7bc9T5LYYm/4RWCbI6KNezjwR+jwR2+rd7TUKOxfSzOfAzWvuWMt0GC8E uoznEWhG6x2M7jius1KZWGEnws350SWmkLX77V+ZrLQIHe75PySr+gotK7VNQ8WfwCJ/ tKotlfw5FVWwHyaBcUNRyIAXvYsPmFEbU5JEE= Received: by 10.223.32.9 with SMTP id a9mr885454fad.134.1316605435236; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 04:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbvk.local (uidzr185150.sattnet.cz. [212.96.185.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f10sm4021681fac.14.2011.09.21.04.43.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 04:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E79CDF7.1060102@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:43:51 +0200 From: kron24 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110907 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Carmel Subject: Re: Using RPM to extract file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:09:35 -0000 On 2011/09/21 13:17, Carmel wrote: > I am attempting to obtain a PPD file for a Brother MFC-9560CDW printer. > According to this URL: > , > I can download a file from: > > for this printer. Unfortunately, the file is only available in either > "RPM" or "DEB" format. I cannot figure out how to extract the "PPD" > from "RPM" file. I have read "man rpm"; however, I am still confused. I > tried following the instruction given on the site for extracting the > files; however, that only issued a warning about an incorrect operating > system. First use rpm2cpio of archivers/rpm to get a cpio package. Then continue with standard cpio(1). BR, Oli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 13:37:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218B9106564A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:37:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlopezqc@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D711E8FC13 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so1831364qyk.13 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 06:37:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:user-agent; bh=7/xk8oJhCCit0GXqRo2gpnw1d6IN9vM994ONZUVKE0E=; b=CLAa892hpk7Wh0tAq1Uk10I75/ilQ634T6x53xJnwuRfC6f7nn4xvxF1zAmR/8hIZP PPXWW9/LDIIrED/716qqE2pTMsUnMTSjBEEC1MWuIAooSbEdJyXWRKTo94H8CkQeTmyu 9KkIhLsEylM81pus3Gh6fBt35YDuS+HSh/518= Received: by 10.224.208.67 with SMTP id gb3mr588182qab.396.1316610392024; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 06:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauricio-desktop ([200.55.179.22]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hr6sm4852508qab.6.2011.09.21.06.06.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 06:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:06:08 -0400 From: Mauricio =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez?= To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20110921130608.GA3759@mauricio-desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Blacklisting DOS IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:37:07 -0000 I'm currently using a pfSense box as a gateway and I was recently victim of a DNS DOS attack. That made me think how I could blacklist those IPs automatically. I looked through the pf documentation and the thing that seemed more like it was the max-src-conn-rate option, but then I realized that it's useless with UDP when some hosts send you vast amounts of packets. I'm thinking about making an script using awk and pftop output to watch for states that have more than 1Mb of traffic (regular DNS queries aren't that big) and put those hosts in a table for blocking. My question is if it is there some other more efficient solution for this problem. Thanks in advance -- Saludos de Mauricio López-Quintana Conesa Administrador de Redes Dirección de Patrimonio Oficina del Historiador From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 14:16:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046DE106566B for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:16:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nec556@retena.com) Received: from resmaa12.ono.com (smtp12.ono.com [62.42.230.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1128FC08 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:16:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from GogPortatil.retena.com (188.76.3.50) by resmaa12.ono.com (8.5.113) (authenticated as nec556@retena.com) id 4E5EF2B00054FF78 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:16:41 +0200 Message-ID: <4E5EF2B00054FF78@> (added by postmaster@resmaa12.ono.com) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:16:41 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Eduardo Morras Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 10.0.1410 [1520/3909] Subject: Pci express ZFS card? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:16:44 -0000 Hi, i have this used pci express industrial card (PCIe 2.0 x4) with 1GB: http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=00001000010000000001&cid=08141333914287007902&id=0A263601401161285688 I want to install a NanoBSD with ZFS and 3 Sata disks. Unfortunately i know nothing about this topic. Does anynone know if this type of cards can be connected to a server? Can i access the zfs raidz on it througth the pci express interface? The card documentation says nothing about its use on normal pc as expansion card, only on pci express backplanes. TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 14:40:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184F6106564A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980858FC16 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyg7 with SMTP id 7so1355613eyg.13 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:40:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fNA7MpqMu+3t09zAzQjpq0r/l4uSlb8sqiIcwN6fv8E=; b=kcbNYjc4QefHphckBZf5pDteQPTM7yvMhQlVQh+xqm84/jKJO0fCOZZUSYplM1E7yR 1A9/W/tZadmQbMKIHPaSQ6dKs/K3+87O1P6H2qiMTxj2OcNzNfOXlCUi0uCFgiYBAFdd 5/bDDQgTr9UGqs3yNRB+GKd10YLf8G/s4zOos= Received: by 10.216.230.214 with SMTP id j64mr857123weq.64.1316616002293; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y10sm7138743wbm.14.2011.09.21.07.39.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:39:58 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110921153958.73c1abf1@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4E79BF44.206@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4E79BF44.206@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: UFS journal size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:40:04 -0000 On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:41:08 +0100 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 21/09/2011 10:48, Ross wrote: > > My question is: if I have 4 or 8 GB of RAM should I create 8 or even > > 16 GB journals?.. This seems huge especially if the fs size without > > journal is only 10 gigs. Or the recommended minimum is for systems > > low on RAM? > > The 'twice physical RAM' advice is all about achieving maximum > performance on large filesystems with lots of data writes: IIRC the original justification for 2*ram was as a crude rule-of-thumb to avoid panics. I think the idea was that writing the whole ram into one of the two journalling areas was an extreme case. > You might just as well use plain UFS+Softupdates. Softupdates to > provide the meta-data ordering feature, so that if you do crash and > need to fsck the filesystem, there's not going to be any really nasty > stuff to fix. And in 9.x UFS filesystems (even existing ones) will be able to use journalled soft-updates. This should give a fast fsck without the overheads of full data journalling or background fsck. > Plain UFS because a filesystem of that size will take > about as long to fsck as it would to replay all the journalled but > uncommitted updates. FWIW fsck doesn't replay the journal, it just does a quick check for orphaned files and marks the filesystem as clean - uncommitted updates are left for gjournal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 16:01:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A91106564A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BD88FC0A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R6PEk-0002Le-CC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:01:26 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:01:26 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:01:26 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:01:12 +0200 Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3E5C372DD1D5895B50C7BD42" X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110907 Thunderbird/6.0.1 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Subject: Re: UFS journal size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:01:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3E5C372DD1D5895B50C7BD42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/09/2011 11:48, Ross wrote: > Quoting the manpage: >=20 > -s jsize Specifies size of the journal if only one provider i= s > used for both data and journal. The default is = one > gigabyte. Size should be chosen based on provid= er's > load, and not on its size; recommended minimum i= s twice > the size of the physical memory installed. It i= s not > recommended to use gjournal for small file syste= ms > (e.g.: only few gigabytes big). >=20 > My question is: if I have 4 or 8 GB of RAM should I create 8 or even > 16 GB journals?.. This seems huge especially if the fs size without > journal is only 10 gigs. Or the recommended minimum is for systems low > on RAM? You are probably missing that gjournal does full data journaling, not just metadata as is more common with other systems, so you need a journal which can hold *at least* everything you can hold in RAM, and then twice as much since one half may be replaying while other is being filled up. Even this is an estimate since it's heavily load-dependant. Or you can wait for 9.0 with metadata journaling. --------------enig3E5C372DD1D5895B50C7BD42 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk56CkgACgkQldnAQVacBcjbDwCggFtEpKNcQMpyKWr28/A3B7Pu g/cAoKu9SYieEupXve3tJdBGce6ZmCHY =liwH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3E5C372DD1D5895B50C7BD42-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 16:11:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C651065673 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FF88FC18 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.128.143.54]) by hrndva-qmta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20110921134121931.CWHP16315@hrndva-qmta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:41:21 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=cSzO76bR5tCkfUT9bEmBgR3d7VUusRLeq08eKGxa4EU= c=1 sm=0 a=XYJHFtupD_QA:10 a=PmjUu4vlE_IA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IvncpQWizqU0KxmTkcmfsA==:17 a=pdJGPGiadrLIfjMDiWwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=IvncpQWizqU0KxmTkcmfsA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.52.213.147 Received: from [67.52.213.147] ([67.52.213.147:59408] helo=haran.polands.org) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 9F/91-05514-449E97E4; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:40:20 +0000 Received: from ararat.polands.org (ararat.polands.org [172.16.1.20]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8LDeJZa032704; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:40:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from ararat.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ararat.polands.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8LDeJmZ048881; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:40:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from djp@ararat.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by ararat.polands.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p8LDeI2I048880; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:40:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from djp) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:40:18 -0500 From: Doug Poland To: Ross Message-ID: <20110921134018.GA48785@polands.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS journal size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:11:27 -0000 On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:48:25PM +0300, Ross wrote: > Quoting the manpage: > > -s jsize Specifies size of the journal if only one provider is > used for both data and journal. The default is one > gigabyte. Size should be chosen based on provider's > load, and not on its size; recommended minimum is twice > the size of the physical memory installed. It is not > recommended to use gjournal for small file systems > (e.g.: only few gigabytes big). > > My question is: if I have 4 or 8 GB of RAM should I create 8 or even > 16 GB journals?.. This seems huge especially if the fs size without > journal is only 10 gigs. Or the recommended minimum is for systems low > on RAM? > My experience has shown that speed of the underlying filessystem has a huge impact on the required size of the journal. I have a system running hardware RAID-10 on a 3Ware SATA controller. On a 100G partition, rsync would regularly cause a panic until I got my journal up above 10G. This particular host has only 1G of RAM and a single 3.4GHz P4 CPU. Sizing this particular box using gjournal was painful until I got the journal sizes large enough. It turns out the journals had to be so large (for the infrequent write burst) that a significant amount of disk was chewed up for journals that were mostly unused. If I had to do it over again, I would have not used gjournal and simply used softupdates. YMMV -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 16:19:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C88106564A for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:19:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s9.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s9.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032388FC18 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:19:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP160 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s9.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:19:54 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.182.105.57] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.105.57]) by BLU0-SMTP160.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:19:52 -0700 Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3S3mPh0KvGz2CG54 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:19:51 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <4E79CDF7.1060102@gmail.com> References: <4E79CDF7.1060102@gmail.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2011 16:19:52.0896 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B24FC00:01CC787A] Subject: Re: Using RPM to extract file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:19:56 -0000 On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:43:51 +0200 kron24 articulated: > On 2011/09/21 13:17, Carmel wrote: > > I am attempting to obtain a PPD file for a Brother MFC-9560CDW > > printer. According to this URL: > > , > > I can download a file from: > > > > for this printer. Unfortunately, the file is only available in > > either "RPM" or "DEB" format. I cannot figure out how to extract > > the "PPD" from "RPM" file. I have read "man rpm"; however, I am > > still confused. I tried following the instruction given on the site > > for extracting the files; however, that only issued a warning about > > an incorrect operating system. > > First use rpm2cpio of archivers/rpm to get a cpio package. > Then continue with standard cpio(1). Using "rpm2cpio" was easy enough; however, I just cannot figure out how to get "cpio" to extract just the one file I want. Either it just hangs or issues an error message. The man page is just about useless. No useful example is given. -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 17:14:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B444106566C for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s31.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s31.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1966B8FC13 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP396 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s31.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:14:16 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.182.105.57] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.105.57]) by BLU0-SMTP396.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:14:14 -0700 Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3S3ncP5Tlfz2CG54 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:14:13 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <4E7A17A0.6040500@quick.cz> References: <4E79CDF7.1060102@gmail.com> <4E7A17A0.6040500@quick.cz> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2011 17:14:14.0789 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3625B50:01CC7881] Subject: Re: Using RPM to extract file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:14:17 -0000 On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:58:08 +0200 Vaclav Kadlcik articulated: > On 2011/09/21 18:19, Carmel wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:43:51 +0200 > > kron24 articulated: > > > >> On 2011/09/21 13:17, Carmel wrote: > >>> I am attempting to obtain a PPD file for a Brother MFC-9560CDW > >>> printer. According to this URL: > >>> , > >>> I can download a file from: > >>> > >>> for this printer. Unfortunately, the file is only available in > >>> either "RPM" or "DEB" format. I cannot figure out how to extract > >>> the "PPD" from "RPM" file. I have read "man rpm"; however, I am > >>> still confused. I tried following the instruction given on the > >>> site for extracting the files; however, that only issued a > >>> warning about an incorrect operating system. > >> > >> First use rpm2cpio of archivers/rpm to get a cpio package. > >> Then continue with standard cpio(1). > > > > Using "rpm2cpio" was easy enough; however, I just cannot figure out > > how to get "cpio" to extract just the one file I want. Either it > > just hangs or issues an error message. The man page is just about > > useless. No useful example is given. > > > > $ rpm2cpio ./usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc9560cdw/cupswrapper/brcupsconfpt1 > ./usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc9560cdw/cupswrapper/cupswrappermfc9560cdw > ./usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc9560cdw/cupswrapper/mfc9560cdw.ppd > 85 blocks I found a nearly identical example while Googling right after I posted. It would be nice if a simple example like that were included n the "man" page. -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 21 17:15:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BB3106566C for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:15:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vaclav.kadlcik@quick.cz) Received: from ns.sattnet.cz (ns.sattnet.cz [213.211.45.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62138FC16 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:15:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.sattnet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BC71EA5FE; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:58:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at relay.sattnet.cz Received: from ns.sattnet.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns.sattnet.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QSuHDAEylkRh; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:58:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nbvk.local (uidzr185150.sattnet.cz [212.96.185.150]) by ns.sattnet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A4471EA5FD; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:58:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E7A17A0.6040500@quick.cz> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:58:08 +0200 From: Vaclav Kadlcik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110907 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <4E79CDF7.1060102@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Carmel Subject: Re: Using RPM to extract file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:15:38 -0000 On 2011/09/21 18:19, Carmel wrote: > On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:43:51 +0200 > kron24 articulated: > >> On 2011/09/21 13:17, Carmel wrote: >>> I am attempting to obtain a PPD file for a Brother MFC-9560CDW >>> printer. According to this URL: >>> , >>> I can download a file from: >>> >>> for this printer. Unfortunately, the file is only available in >>> either "RPM" or "DEB" format. I cannot figure out how to extract >>> the "PPD" from "RPM" file. I have read "man rpm"; however, I am >>> still confused. I tried following the instruction given on the site >>> for extracting the files; however, that only issued a warning about >>> an incorrect operating system. >> >> First use rpm2cpio of archivers/rpm to get a cpio package. >> Then continue with standard cpio(1). > > Using "rpm2cpio" was easy enough; however, I just cannot figure out > how to get "cpio" to extract just the one file I want. Either it just > hangs or issues an error message. The man page is just about useless. > No useful example is given. > $ rpm2cpio Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B481065686 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:20:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@mthelicon.com) Received: from hercules.mthelicon.com (hercules.mthelicon.com [66.90.118.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7EE8FC15 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from feathers.peganest.com ([46.68.73.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by hercules.mthelicon.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8LH9Clb015176 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:09:13 GMT (envelope-from ken@mthelicon.com) From: Pegasus Mc Cleaft Organization: Feathers To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:04:53 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-BETA2; KDE/4.6.5; amd64; ; ) References: <20110921130608.GA3759@mauricio-desktop> In-Reply-To: <20110921130608.GA3759@mauricio-desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201109211804.53830.ken@mthelicon.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=15.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on hercules.mthelicon.com Subject: Re: Blacklisting DOS IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:20:27 -0000 On Wednesday 21 September 2011 14:06:08 Mauricio L=F3pez wrote: > I'm thinking about making an script using awk and pftop output to watch > for states that have more than 1Mb of traffic (regular DNS queries > aren't that big) and put those hosts in a table for blocking. My > question is if it is there some other more efficient solution for this > problem. >=20 > Thanks in advance Hi Mauricio,=20 I dont know if this will help you, but this is a script I made years ago=20 that I use on my machines. I call the script using cron once a day and let= =20 IPFW do the filtering for me HTH Peg #!/bin/sh #automatically fetch the spamhaus zone ban list cd /root /usr/bin/fetch http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/drop.lasso #Let drop all of set 11 from the firewall /sbin/ipfw delete set 11 #Starting Rule Number Counter=3D1000 #lets parse the file and cut out the piece we want for i in `cut -d " " -f 1 drop.lasso | grep -v ";"` do echo "Adding rule for: $i " Counter=3D`expr $Counter + 1` ##Lets add the rule into set 11 /sbin/ipfw add $Counter set 11 deny ip from $i to any Counter=3D`expr $Counter + 1` /sbin/ipfw add $Counter set 11 deny ip from any to $i done From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 00:00:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B82106566B for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnorwick@centurytel.net) Received: from mail940c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail940c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6E68FC16 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:00:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: mnorwick.centurytel.net Received: from bucksnort.norwickhouse.net (174-124-9-3.dyn.centurytel.net [174.124.9.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail940c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p8LNQGxs028295 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 23:26:19 GMT Message-ID: <4E7A7298.20206@centurytel.net> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:26:16 -0500 From: "Michael D. Norwick" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110829 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110921130608.GA3759@mauricio-desktop> <201109211804.53830.ken@mthelicon.com> In-Reply-To: <201109211804.53830.ken@mthelicon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=JB8LnlbPfdk939/hPWaIHlG/xtI+unMZBlxTE3ebEKQ= c=1 sm=1 a=_tW4y8GFV1YA:10 a=iBeDQ5XpuvkA:10 a=3WPTVEtZbjMA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=sN1ymm187tx0Nq4bb7dXQQ==:17 a=tTBX3lmPmmMEJR_UXS8A:9 a=E8uN-Ze_x1t1CvjQTI8A:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=0IR2beAkmppmEj2j:21 a=kCdxA1HmxnewhKat:21 a=sN1ymm187tx0Nq4bb7dXQQ==:117 Subject: FreeBSD 9-BETA2 on a Dell Latitude D630 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:00:30 -0000 Good Day; I wish to post a successful installation of FreeBSD 9.0 on a Dell Latitude D630 laptop. Base installation was from binaries on the -amd64 dvd.iso. Xorg and gnome from ports fetched via portsnap on 09/18/11. csup'd kernel and userland source yesterday. This is a fresh built custom kernel without debugging, SCSI or RAID modules. I do not know what this means 'GEOM_PART: Partition 'ada0p3' not suitable for kernel dumps (wrong type?)'. I am still investigating why Perl 5.12.4 dumped core at the end but otherwise the machine seems to be operating well. #> dmesg | more Copyright (c) 1992-2011 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 9.0-BETA2 #0: Wed Sep 21 17:08:56 CDT 2011 michael@*****.*****.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL_092111 amd64 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7250 @ 2.00GHz (1994.48-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6fd Family = 6 Model = f Stepping = 13 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0xe3bd AMD Features=0x20100800 AMD Features2=0x1 TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics real memory = 1073741824 (1024 MB) avail memory = 1003618304 (957 MB) Event timer "LAPIC" quality 400 ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 950 Event timer "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 450 Event timer "HPET1" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 440 Event timer "HPET2" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 440 acpi0: reservation of 0, 9f000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 3f55b800 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 900 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 vgapci0: port 0xeff8-0xefff mem 0xfea00000-0xfeafffff,0xe0000000-0xefffffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: on vgapci0 agp0: aperture size is 256M, detected 7676k stolen memory vgapci1: mem 0xfeb00000-0xfebfffff at device 2.1 on pci0 uhci0: port 0x6f20-0x6f3f irq 20 at device 26.0 on pci0 uhci0: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus0: on uhci0 uhci1: port 0x6f00-0x6f1f irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0 uhci1: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus1: on uhci1 ehci0: mem 0xfed1c400-0xfed1c7ff irq 22 at device 26.7 on pci0 usbus2: EHCI version 1.0 usbus2: on ehci0 hdac0: mem 0xfe9fc000-0xfe9fffff irq 21 at device 27.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 28.0 on pci0 pci11: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 28.1 on pci0 pci12: on pcib2 wpi0: mem 0xfe8ff000-0xfe8fffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci12 pcib3: at device 28.5 on pci0 pci9: on pcib3 bge0: mem 0xfe7f0000-0xfe7fffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci9 bge0: CHIP ID 0x0000a002; ASIC REV 0x0a; CHIP REV 0xa0; PCI-E miibus0: on bge0 brgphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, auto, auto-flow bge0: Ethernet address: 00:21:70:91:6a:a5 uhci2: port 0x6f80-0x6f9f irq 20 at d--More--(byte 3800) evice 29.0 on pci0 uhci2: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus3: on uhci2 uhci3: port 0x6f60-0x6f7f irq 21 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci3: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus4: on uhci3 uhci4: port 0x6f40-0x6f5f irq 22 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci4: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus5: on uhci4 ehci1: mem 0xfed1c000-0xfed1c3ff irq 20 at device 29.7 on pci0 usbus6: EHCI version 1.0 usbus6: on ehci1 pcib4: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib4 cbb0: at device 1.0 on pci3 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 fwohci0: <1394 Open Host Controller Interface> mem 0xfe6ff000-0xfe6fffff,0xfe6fe800-0xfe6fefff irq 19 at device 1.4 on pci3 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=0) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 8. fwohci0: EUI64 36:4f:c0:00:38:ad:b1:c1 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x125c000 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 36:4f:c0:ad:b1:c1 fwe0: Ethernet address: 36:4f:c0:ad:b1:c1 fwip0: on firewire0 fwip0: Firewire address: 36:4f:c0:00:38:ad:b1:c1 @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, maxrec 2048 sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: BUS reset fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: node_id=0x00000000, SelfID Count=1, CYCLEMASTER mode isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x6fa0-0x6faf irq 16 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ahci0: port 0x6eb0-0x6eb7,0x6eb8-0x6ebb,0x6ec0-0x6ec7,0x6ec8-0x6ecb,0x6ee0-0x6eff mem 0xfe9fb800-0xfe9fbfff irq 17 at device 31.2 on pci0 ahci0: AHCI v1.10 with 3 3Gbps ports, Port Multiplier not supported ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 ahcich1: at channel 2 on ahci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_button1: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 battery0: on acpi0 battery1: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64,0x62,0x66 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x71,0x72-0x77 irq 8 on acpi0 Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 attimer0: port 0x40-0x43,0x50-0x53 irq 2 on acpi0 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range est0: on cpu0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 est1: on cpu1 p4tcc1: on cpu1 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hdac0: HDA Codec #0: Sigmatel STAC9205X hdac0: HDA Codec #1: Conexant (Unknown) firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0 cable IRM irm(0) (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus2: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 usbus3: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus4: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus5: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus6: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 ugen0.1: at usbus0 uhub0: on usbus0 ugen1.1: at usbus1 uhub1: on usbus1 ugen2.1: at usbus2 uhub2: on usbus2 ugen3.1: at usbus3 uhub3: on usbus3 ugen4.1: at usbus4 uhub4: on usbus4 ugen5.1: at usbus5 uhub5: on usbus5 ugen6.1: at usbus6 uhub6: on usbus6 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered uhub6: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered uhub6: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered ugen4.2: at usbus4 ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ATA-7 SATA 2.x device ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 76319MB (156301488 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada0: Previously was known as ad4 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! cd0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 65534bytes) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed ums0: on usbus4 ums0: 3 buttons and [XYZ] coordinates ID=0 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0p2 [rw]... ugen5.2: at usbus5 uhub7: on usbus5 GEOM_PART: Partition 'ada0p3' not suitable for kernel dumps (wrong type?) ugen4.3: at usbus4 ukbd0: on usbus4 kbd2 at ukbd0 uhid0: on usbus4 uhub7: 4 ports with 3 removable, self powered ugen5.3: at usbus5 drm0: on vgapci0 info: [drm] MSI enabled 1 message(s) info: [drm] AGP at 0xe0000000 256MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 pid 2308 (perl5.12.4), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) pid 2310 (perl5.12.4), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 00:17:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD9A106564A for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyzammy@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8844D8FC13 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbf13 with SMTP id f13so104682vcb.13 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:17:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RNTyGy809XhLA4HLDihFy39s/HpsuJALgSyexvgguAU=; b=YAnCNH+k48PuWcymvNsUU5hshYeb3x3hRSw5mqfdk2mwY2aBnsspMs/s3LwNODUbrG YsiE9ZuBY7Dh2eZhac5o4ntkc6EPdtaini3pM4Jb9ZMQCRG6yoiG+jeVk3nXtmNGUEJN kmkiLDNta5yCPBPSVGEU6Pt5fHod7x6g/E04g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.27.72 with SMTP id r8mr1160437vdg.140.1316649087763; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.161.228 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:51:27 +0100 Message-ID: From: Andy Zammy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Dynamic Window Manager install with patch(es) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:17:31 -0000 Hi all, First time poster to the lists! Using dwm, loving the minimalism and it's forcing me to learn stuff the hard way which is all good. But I can't seem to figure out how to apply a patch to it. According to the instructions listed here: http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/ I figured I'm to use the "tarball method" as that's how ports fetches dwm. I tried applying the method to /usr/ports/x11-wm/dwm/work/dwm-5.9 but it didn't work (malformed patch). I've used ubuntu for about a year but for all intents and purposes I'm still a beginner with UNIX-like, and I've never used patch or diff before. But, I remembered that these are ports and wonder if these patches would work on FreeBSD source? Would I have to apply the patch to the tarball while it's in distfiles before it gets 'ported' to freebsd? Or am I talking crazy? Any help would be appreciated. andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 02:23:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58394106564A for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from translator4@vip.126.com) Received: from m17-178.vip.126.com (m17-178.vip.126.com [123.58.178.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846328FC0A for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from translator4 ( [121.237.203.126] ) by ajax-webmail-app2 (Coremail) ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:43:41 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:43:41 +0800 (CST) From: "Asian Translation" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <930c6ba.a24.1328ecd749a.Coremail.translator4@vip.126.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [121.237.203.126] X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Coremail Webmail Server Version SP_ntes V3.5 build 110713(13936.3901.3890) Copyright (c) 2002-2011 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Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:04:48 -0400 Message-Id: <201109220204.p8M24mWo013345@cs.wpi.edu> From: Michael C Voorhis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Reading DLT tapes with very large block sizes. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:31:09 -0000 Hi all, I've been given a set of DLT tapes written with data in fixed 8Mb blocks. I have been unable to convince any OS to read these tapes, and yet I need to read them. Most tape drivers refuse to work with block sizes that are even a fraction of this blocksize. The tapes were created on a Linux machine several years ago using the AMANDA tape backup system. Can anyone offer davice on how I might go about reading these tapes. I'm fine with patching code and installing an altered sa driver, but I lack sufficient knowledge of how the scsi tape driver functions. I'm entirely willing and able to build a machine specifically to read these tapes. Any help, clues, guidance, etc would be wonderful. Thanks, Mike Voorhis (mvoorhis@cs.wpi.edu) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 07:06:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C869106566C for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A3E8FC16 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8M75tEN016371 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:05:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8M75tEN016371 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1316675155; bh=Q3rJ7PZ90oN9Tdb0VntrVSkExiF0GVUbj1HcK5Gfw0I=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E7ADE4B.6010601@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T hu,=2022=20Sep=202011=2008:05:47=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/2 0110902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Andy=20Zammy =20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org| Subject:=20Re:=20Dynamic=20Window=20Manager=20install=20with=20pat ch(es)|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201. 3.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=2 0micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signatur e"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig511AA70946B9A53B8496B2DF "; b=hQ+eMCkHH+OQ78JxbmN+3agDafoEM4z9I0/26UVr/EwBRWLm0Mw0HQhrMf991LN57 tQl3JY296iyhfZNRMAm7AOfv9J63mYrBdIPhYny7ldJ/4MgekTIlwvj+BiY3m3aV/0 m359pC+gUHus2l8gEhJ4YuHuPoo1VmXheP6ACMQA= Message-ID: <4E7ADE4B.6010601@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:05:47 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Zammy References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig511AA70946B9A53B8496B2DF" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dynamic Window Manager install with patch(es) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:06:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig511AA70946B9A53B8496B2DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22/09/2011 00:51, Andy Zammy wrote: > According to the instructions listed here: http://dwm.suckless.org/patc= hes/ I > figured I'm to use the "tarball method" as that's how ports fetches dwm= =2E I > tried applying the method to /usr/ports/x11-wm/dwm/work/dwm-5.9 but it > didn't work (malformed patch). This is pretty much the correct approach. Although to do it in the best ports fashion, you'ld save the patch file to ${PORTSDIR}/x11-wm/dwm/files/patch-something-or-other and then the ports would patch the sources for you automatically any time you rebuilt the port. Don't worry about that for the time being though. Just getting the patch to apply by hand is a good first step. It's quite normal for ports to apply patches this way -- the dwm port already has patches for Makefile and config.mk. If your patch attempts to patch those same files it could fail. However the error message would be 'patch failed to apply' which is obviously not what you're getti= ng. The big question is why the patch you already have appears to be malformed. How did you obtain it? Can you repeat the process paying attention to any error messages and so forth and see if that works better= ? > I've used ubuntu for about a year but for all intents and purposes I'm = still > a beginner with UNIX-like, and I've never used patch or diff before. Bu= t, I > remembered that these are ports and wonder if these patches would work = on > FreeBSD source? Would I have to apply the patch to the tarball while it= 's in > distfiles before it gets 'ported' to freebsd? Or am I talking crazy? No -- modifying the tarball is possible, but as the effect is exactly the same as what you tried above and as it will then fail the checksum tests, well, it's not worth the bother. patch and diff at this level work in exactly the same way on just about any unix (eg FreeBSD) or unix-alike (Linux including Ubuntu) and probably a few weird OSes you've never heard of. Like I said, applying patches is a common action the ports will do for you. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig511AA70946B9A53B8496B2DF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk563lMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzmIQCfUigNTjopBD4Oe1Fc2LQO5sWx +TkAnRn0wwpnTI6npUulsWydyoIJVcA/ =PYau -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig511AA70946B9A53B8496B2DF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 10:21:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A8D106566B for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andyzammy@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B96E8FC14 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbf13 with SMTP id f13so469293vcb.13 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 03:21:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=k2dPjNO6L8u+kwAY48E5VePfYpXY4bBzp6N6SGG9BH0=; b=xLNSwdKfWzr4EVgc5IptQ+Tvw6nai7KzV0Lz7E9ttKOU/UMVEE1V3SZgQ+Lnjta2ni hFbbZ4pgInayKn6hwRkH/mEt9+6tu9AXrfFxdSyAjWGni+TSFbTsdwi7wIWjVvGuqmQl VxYqeVqqUzbNwe3Aos4icc5Ay6KPDwQ0sUdGI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.175.234 with SMTP id cd10mr1534152vdc.475.1316686894501; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 03:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.161.228 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 03:21:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E7ADE4B.6010601@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4E7ADE4B.6010601@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:21:34 +0100 Message-ID: From: Andy Zammy To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dynamic Window Manager install with patch(es) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:21:36 -0000 I see, then in that case I don't think I'm doing anything wrong. Here is the output of make: ------------------------------------------------------------ # make You can build dwm with your own config.h using the DWM_CONF knob: make DWM_CONF=/path/to/dwm/config.h install clean Note: Pre-5.6 config.h-files no longer work. ===> License MIT accepted by the user ===> Found saved configuration for dwm-5.9 ===> Extracting for dwm-5.9 => SHA256 Checksum OK for dwm-5.9.tar.gz. ===> Patching for dwm-5.9 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for dwm-5.9 File to patch: files/patch-defaultopacity No file found--skip this patch? [n] n File to patch: /usr/home/user/Downloads/dwm.defaultopacity.patch patch: **** malformed patch at line 9: @@ -52,6 +54,9 @@ => Patch patch-defaultopacity failed to apply cleanly. => Patch(es) patch-Makefile patch-config.mk applied cleanly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-wm/dwm. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-wm/dwm. -------------------------------------------------------------- Like I say I don't know how patch or diff work but it's strange how it needs pointing to the patch again? On 22 September 2011 08:05, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 22/09/2011 00:51, Andy Zammy wrote: > > According to the instructions listed here: > http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/ I > > figured I'm to use the "tarball method" as that's how ports fetches dwm. > I > > tried applying the method to /usr/ports/x11-wm/dwm/work/dwm-5.9 but it > > didn't work (malformed patch). > > This is pretty much the correct approach. Although to do it in the best > ports fashion, you'ld save the patch file to > ${PORTSDIR}/x11-wm/dwm/files/patch-something-or-other and then the ports > would patch the sources for you automatically any time you rebuilt the > port. Don't worry about that for the time being though. Just getting > the patch to apply by hand is a good first step. > > It's quite normal for ports to apply patches this way -- the dwm port > already has patches for Makefile and config.mk. If your patch attempts > to patch those same files it could fail. However the error message > would be 'patch failed to apply' which is obviously not what you're > getting. > > The big question is why the patch you already have appears to be > malformed. How did you obtain it? Can you repeat the process paying > attention to any error messages and so forth and see if that works better? > > > I've used ubuntu for about a year but for all intents and purposes I'm > still > > a beginner with UNIX-like, and I've never used patch or diff before. But, > I > > remembered that these are ports and wonder if these patches would work on > > FreeBSD source? Would I have to apply the patch to the tarball while it's > in > > distfiles before it gets 'ported' to freebsd? Or am I talking crazy? > > No -- modifying the tarball is possible, but as the effect is exactly > the same as what you tried above and as it will then fail the checksum > tests, well, it's not worth the bother. > > patch and diff at this level work in exactly the same way on just about > any unix (eg FreeBSD) or unix-alike (Linux including Ubuntu) and > probably a few weird OSes you've never heard of. Like I said, applying > patches is a common action the ports will do for you. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 11:10:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D59106564A for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E638FC12 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:10:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8MBA01B020640 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:10:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8MBA01B020640 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1316689800; bh=QJAxm27CJJ9KgPjVUDHUDYpRTEej10ABVQ7i9oXhO+k=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E7B1781.30800@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Thu ,=2022=20Sep=202011=2012:09:53=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20 |User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Mac intosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/201 10902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Andy=20Zammy=2 0|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Su bject:=20Re:=20Dynamic=20Window=20Manager=20install=20with=20patch (es)|References:=20=20<4E7ADE4B.6010601@infracaninophile.co.uk>= 20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3 D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1= 3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20bound ary=3D"------------enigFB9AF7587EA8C372C7B4B24A"; b=Q551+NyKjxvunCBScHLBLbCrPuUN5alYpDxw03JJvp6Bc2OhmtpUvtlAS/mJ1Kob/ OoIWgoKvIsZPOq5+OlkSlM/JZL7iiB9IiJ7YItAoE71fSYgvGPX8zz2BvJQZkez6XC CRnP6gL6Ju4as/yQke7T10Zw5WI5F0qrF9C4kHJ8= Message-ID: <4E7B1781.30800@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:09:53 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Zammy References: <4E7ADE4B.6010601@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFB9AF7587EA8C372C7B4B24A" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dynamic Window Manager install with patch(es) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:10:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFB9AF7587EA8C372C7B4B24A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22/09/2011 11:21, Andy Zammy wrote: > File to patch: files/patch-defaultopacity > No file found--skip this patch? [n] n > File to patch: /usr/home/user/Downloads/dwm.defaultopacity.patch > patch: **** malformed patch at line 9: @@ -52,6 +54,9 @@ > =3D> Patch patch-defaultopacity failed to apply cleanly. Um.. when it says 'file to patch', it means it wants the name of a file to apply the patch /to/, not the file to read the patch /from/. There are some requirements about relative paths in the diff file that I entirely glossed over when I mentioned adding patches to the files directory; unfortunately not all patches will 'just work' (tm). [[ Do this next bit after unpacking the distfiles but before building the port. ie. after running these commands: # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/dwm # make clean ; make extract ]] For your purposes, first work out how to apply the patch by hand -- ie. running some variant of the command lines # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/dwm/work # patch -p0 < ~/downloads/dwm.defaultopacity.patch However, it seems the patch you've obtained is somehow corrupt. If it's not too long, you could post it here, or put it on the web somewhere for people to look at (pastebin springs to mind). Once the patch applies cleanly you should be able to continue with building and installing the port as usual: # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/dwm # make ; make install If you want the low-down on adding patches to a port, start by reading this section of the Porter's Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/slow-pa= tch.html Then take a look at the handy patchtool helper script in /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/patchtool.py -- the README.patchtool file in that directory will be more accessible if you aren't fluent in python. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigFB9AF7587EA8C372C7B4B24A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk57F4gACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxGnwCdGvlF5xaTI2sqRLmvNhcA2FHM TzAAnAho3sJLKVby1eoPrSOJV78kky/v =ZOvW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFB9AF7587EA8C372C7B4B24A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 14:20:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF26106566B for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:20:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958DB8FC16 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8MEKJgi011676; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:20:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id p8MEKJ50011673; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:20:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:20:19 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4E7B1781.30800@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <4E7ADE4B.6010601@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4E7B1781.30800@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:20:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Andy Zammy Subject: Re: Dynamic Window Manager install with patch(es) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:20:20 -0000 On Thu, 22 Sep 2011, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 22/09/2011 11:21, Andy Zammy wrote: >> File to patch: files/patch-defaultopacity >> No file found--skip this patch? [n] n >> File to patch: /usr/home/user/Downloads/dwm.defaultopacity.patch >> patch: **** malformed patch at line 9: @@ -52,6 +54,9 @@ >> => Patch patch-defaultopacity failed to apply cleanly. > > Um.. when it says 'file to patch', it means it wants the name of a file > to apply the patch /to/, not the file to read the patch /from/. There > are some requirements about relative paths in the diff file that I > entirely glossed over when I mentioned adding patches to the files > directory; unfortunately not all patches will 'just work' (tm). > > [[ Do this next bit after unpacking the distfiles but before building > the port. ie. after running these commands: > > # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/dwm > # make clean ; make extract > > ]] Or after 'make patch', so the port patches have already been applied. Of course, port patches and manual patches can interfere with each other. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 14:32:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54551106566B for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C503D8FC0A for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:32:17 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=OQcv39o/iktixOT3C85uyglxU8GaEr8CU2tKPiTiejE=; b=DmaicXFYIctVM3dEu1uTFYJeYF+2lf2m1vKc8Quh8Oe3/g+qMPLL9H7foEmAlTTGdqu1N3YEf102nB5Vd6RB+yewSmZBszqzOWISroKkzQteE7f8t0DaoiljrJyelDS9pXp4fAu2VqgFpXCom5UUbbJcWQ891wptWRscqMWgh18= Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([76.240.47.196]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:32:17 -0700 Message-ID: <4E7B46EE.8090100@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:32:14 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2011 14:32:17.0649 (UTC) FILETIME=[6DEE3610:01CC7934] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Subject: command to eject cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:32:18 -0000 Is there a console command to cause the cd/dvd device to open its drawer? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 14:41:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB411065675 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358778FC18 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:41:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=hYtP0en0kD5z1eXdRF2sCEz++rcmlkS3+7l6195VuwI=; b=a2eusVNl9hr6vSn8r9VEn4UCsR3OeDgsEfKWer/fz0IbdeZ4n9eAyCmvl6dwiYlRXd78qHeSkv7GBOgQbWz3sjhvUstkZr8KYwDrJvhFJrs/y1GrCw/wHtclOBEmPVOBLVYTNRZUYvGT+2PhA7KTfeLEqML2ZfgS6QkL6FVH37c= Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([76.240.47.196]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:41:45 -0700 Message-ID: <4E7B4925.6080204@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:41:41 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2011 14:41:45.0116 (UTC) FILETIME=[C02ACDC0:01CC7935] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Subject: 9.0 and burncd error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:41:46 -0000 It seems that in 9.0 the cd/dvd/drive is now given a dev name of cd0 where in all previous releases it was acd0. Tried to use the burncd command in 9.0 and get this error msg burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCGETBLOCKSIZE): Inappropriate ioctl for device Looks to me like maybe the burncd command needs to be fixed to work in 9.0. Has anyone else had problem with the burncd command in 9.0? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 14:44:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F872106564A for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31ADA8FC15 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8MEi7rn023976; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:44:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4E7B49AE.1060009@sentex.net> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:43:58 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd8 References: <4E7B46EE.8090100@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4E7B46EE.8090100@a1poweruser.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: command to eject cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:44:13 -0000 On 9/22/2011 10:32 AM, Fbsd8 wrote: > Is there a console command to cause the cd/dvd device to open its drawer? you mean other than cdcontrol ? ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 14:45:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305EA1065670 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB9D8FC15 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8MEjWIg084184 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:45:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8MEjWTR098615 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:45:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p8MEjVkf098613; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:45:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:45:31 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Fbsd8 Message-ID: <20110922144531.GJ9801@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4E7B46EE.8090100@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E7B46EE.8090100@a1poweruser.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:45:32 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: command to eject cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:45:35 -0000 In the last episode (Sep 22), Fbsd8 said: > Is there a console command to cause the cd/dvd device to open its drawer? "cdcontrol eject" should work if you only have one device. You can specify which device to send the eject request to with the -f flag. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 15:07:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1607E106566B for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BBE8FC0C for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (hazare.torservers.net [173.254.192.38]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6F715B16 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:16:57 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:48:36 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110922144836.GF7339@external.screwed.box> References: <4E7B46EE.8090100@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E7B46EE.8090100@a1poweruser.com> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: command to eject cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:07:38 -0000 Hello. 2011/09/22 10:32:14 -0400 Fbsd8 => To FreeBSD Questions : F> Is there a console command to cause the cd/dvd device to open its drawer? echo -ne "e\nq\n" | cdcontrol -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 15:08:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DB31065689 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:08:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB508FC19 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:08:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-14-151.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.14.151]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C094A1E333; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:08:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p8MF8mra003914; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:08:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:08:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Fbsd8 Message-Id: <20110922170848.ee283ad1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4E7B46EE.8090100@a1poweruser.com> References: <4E7B46EE.8090100@a1poweruser.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: command to eject cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:08:50 -0000 On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:32:14 -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: > Is there a console command to cause the cd/dvd device to open its drawer? There is "camcontrol eject" (or "camcontrol -f eject" which uses the ATAPICAM subsystem; see "man camcontrol" for details. In ports, I remember there is also a port called "eject", not sure what it interacts with. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 15:22:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414341065680 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry95@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DDD8FC26 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:22:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbf13 with SMTP id f13so778575vcb.13 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:22:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=enrAeOt5bRpcFzWzGMOaBKvTlcppxuzoE2vY/MOLRjg=; b=HDIop7OyqNNXwe9CionUhkgEoh4PuzHFtV/t6OkOTeR8w2R+FGRj7kAZx1j2mfZDIZ h4njvPrlXxWl0nfVkEgmBPFbd793XlZDGEt8lezhf+e0Y8aUgtM0ALgba/MfvdO7PW91 zuVkLQs/95tgjv+8POCSCaxZJ8myT9Pcbaq6U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.69.177 with SMTP id f17mr387940vdu.161.1316704963234; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.162.198 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:22:43 -0400 Message-ID: From: Henry M To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: load average with multi-core CPU's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:22:44 -0000 Hi all, Can someone explain, or point me to correct documentation on what the load average on top/uptime is actually displaying? Is the load the average amount of processes waiting to execute on the server, or is it independent of CPU? Am I correct with the below statements? * Example 1: 1 CPU, load average of 1.00, CPU at capacity. No processes have to wait to execute. 1 CPU, 2.00 load average, 1 process is waiting to execute. * Example 2: 1 CPU, 4 cores. load average of 2.00. 2 cores are working at capacity, other 2 are idle (mostly). 1 CPU, 4 cores, load average 5.00. 4 cores are at capacity, 1 process waiting to execute. I tried searching, but I couldn't find much besides some blog postings. Thanks, Henry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 15:25:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D770106566C for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vasile@cristescu.org) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACB78FC12 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxg9 with SMTP id 9so3714361fxg.13 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.11.23 with SMTP id r23mr3250191far.38.1316702412542; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wraith.lamit ([86.34.248.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j5sm5564658fac.25.2011.09.22.07.40.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:40:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Vasile Cristescu Organization: Lamit Company To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:36:46 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.5; i386; ; ) References: <4E7B46EE.8090100@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4E7B46EE.8090100@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201109221736.46465.v.cristescu@lamit.ro> Cc: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: command to eject cd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:25:41 -0000 Hello, try something like: cdcontrol -f /dev/acd0 eject or cdcontrol -f /dev/cd0 eject -- Best Regards, Vasile Cristescu On Thursday 22 September 2011 17:32:14 Fbsd8 wrote: > Is there a console command to cause the cd/dvd device to open its drawer? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 19:30:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188A11065670 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mwi1.coffeenet.org (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FAF8FC0C for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:30:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=+SgJHp+7ujAVp9ig8MslFaNflz6huXj3j/HC5EUXaTw=; b=TG2KcBqHkT8mEQPxxkwaj+aZqmOkfLeJ42OIs9ZU05dgF4Mx1sMukWYKHadVDp/OpN7EOHqKieVxqf/9XIJVztA7LBMGB0NNScfQin+s8wH8CuTyDyRV7MzbwTmVtz29; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by mwi1.coffeenet.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1R6oy9-000KIO-53 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:30:02 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.3) with esmtpsa id 1316719795-70120-70119/4/6; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:29:55 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:29:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.51 (Linux) X-SA-Score: -1.0 Subject: Re: load average with multi-core CPU's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:30:03 -0000 On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:22:43 -0500, Henry M wrote: > Hi all, > > Can someone explain, or point me to correct documentation on what the > load > average on top/uptime is actually displaying? Load average is "average number of processes in the run queue" for the 1, 5, and 15 minute intervals. If you have a quad core CPU a 4.00 load average means you've been keeping the CPU busy at 100%. Does that make sense? Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 19:30:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709811065670 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542328FC0C for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 48E70E80756; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:30:54 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110922193051.GA22429@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: much to my surprise.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:30:56 -0000 guys, well, after a forced, unexpected, and emergency 5 days away, i got back to my desk and could not ping. while mail seemed to be working, and my *local* ping worked---I could ping around from my freebsd server to my other computers--i spent 3+ hours trying to ping various sites. Zero. i tried everything i could think of. NOTHING worked. i tried the -d -f -f to named and on and on and on. nothing. *Finally*, i saw that my telco router was displaying "INT" in red LED's. i didn't know they displayed in any other color but the default green, but after power-cycling, voila! back to green. and now, yes, i can ping freebsd.org. and i'm pretty sure other network things will work too. from any/all sysadmin types or others:: i would like tricks, tips, insights--whatever--about named and whatever else. i thought i had collected many. nope. i've got bind 9.8 installed and it was working fine until my recent 'vacation.' Other than checking one's routers (hub/switch), and other hardware (including server, computers, cables, etc) does anybody have a checklist of what to do to diagnose this? are there any other utilities i can try besides ping and named -d 3 -f -g? other network utilities with a debug flag? i'm running 7.3 on a dell 530. tia for any insights, -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 20:15:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2245106566B for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EFB8FC0A for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:15:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p8MKEobt083145; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:14:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:14:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kline@thought.org In-Reply-To: <20110922193051.GA22429@thought.org> Cc: Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:15:18 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 22 14:30:49 2011 > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:30:54 -0700 > From: Gary Kline > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Cc: > Subject: much to my surprise.... > > > guys, > > well, after a forced, unexpected, and emergency 5 days away, i got > back to my desk and could not ping. while mail seemed to be working, > and my *local* ping worked---I could ping around from my freebsd server > to my other computers--i spent 3+ hours trying to ping various > sites. Zero. i tried everything i could think of. NOTHING worked. > i tried the -d -f -f to named and on and on and on. nothing. > > *Finally*, i saw that my telco router was displaying "INT" in red > LED's. i didn't know they displayed in any other color but the > default green, but after power-cycling, voila! back to green. > and now, yes, i can ping freebsd.org. and i'm pretty sure other > network things will work too. > > from any/all sysadmin types or others:: > i would like tricks, tips, insights--whatever--about named and > whatever else. i thought i had collected many. nope. i've got > bind 9.8 installed and it was working fine until my recent > 'vacation.' Other than checking one's routers (hub/switch), and other > hardware (including server, computers, cables, etc) does anybody have a > checklist of what to do to diagnose this? are there any other > utilities i can try besides ping and named -d 3 -f -g? other > network utilities with a debug flag? i'm running 7.3 on a dell 530. > > tia for any insights, You should _really_ consider hiring a professional to maintain your systems. Diagnosing _this_ problem should have taken no more than about 30 *seconds*. If you can't get somewhere 'by name', you try to get there 'by address'. If 'by address' works and 'by name' doesn't, *that* is the indication of a DNS problem. If you can't get there 'by address', it is *NOT* a DNS problem, and you start looking for a 'connectivity' problem. The *BASIC* tools for that start with 'traceroute'. Which would have *immediately* (well, within abut ten seconds :) indicated exactly _where_ the problem was. Those who don't understand these kind dof things are "too dangerous" to be trusted with the superuser password. Bluntly, not only do you not know the things you need to know to manage a (even 'personal') network, you "DON'T KNOW _what_ you don't know", and until you *do* learn the basics, you'll save youself a *LOT* of hair- tearing if you hire someone to solve the problems for you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 20:35:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5729106564A for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry95@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934DF8FC14 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11so4480700vws.13 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:35:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=laiibP/Xtx3MWmGuczHYvqKRQDozMQVVEDpUUOqgLOY=; b=xEIBFZhouAYpcy+AENYUwDKIh3oP6ew3ocLzdEGqXK7Rmu0YP9w8LTlUsnMoray/Uc ZsjrJJt7GF7ouxvJYbhEos05XkE5QiimCbWLQroMDG1TifJ29IFw9LqmUq7VoHIkR/Dj Irq66PHxbxD3tU5g4zkVx5H3QFIYD82TU59cM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.70.230 with SMTP id p6mr2498534vdu.228.1316723699856; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.162.198 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:34:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:34:59 -0400 Message-ID: From: Henry M To: Mark Felder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: load average with multi-core CPU's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:35:01 -0000 Thanks- That's what I thought it was. I'm trying to settle an argument at work : ) On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:22:43 -0500, Henry M wrote: > > Hi all, >> >> Can someone explain, or point me to correct documentation on what the load >> average on top/uptime is actually displaying? >> > > Load average is "average number of processes in the run queue" for the 1, > 5, and 15 minute intervals. If you have a quad core CPU a 4.00 load average > means you've been keeping the CPU busy at 100%. > > > Does that make sense? > > > > Regards, > > > > Mark > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 20:59:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE4F1065672 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjgonzale@estrads.com.ar) Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B3DC38FC12 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22610 invoked by uid 0); 22 Sep 2011 20:59:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box511.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.111) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2011 20:59:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=estrads.com.ar; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=xRe/FcaRkFBZy/cMpLAOzYn6S1Oq4kEp3B59I9yQkcg=; b=KrwVOWtyBLLCLRZPGyVYLv9nSy7hE5WkGASBwCeq+LOBar85uy7j2q4O08l/En4lsVKAGLiEq8ye/QrYEHQqc9m6OK8Uum7Kaqb4rcaIjWGRhqEEqBN68lOoNSXI2PN+; Received: from 20-72-231-201.fibertel.com.ar ([201.231.72.20] helo=rjgonzale-laptop.localdomain) by box511.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R6qMv-0005CI-T2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:59:42 -0600 Message-ID: <4E7BA1B8.5070109@estrads.com.ar> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:59:36 -0300 From: Rodrigo Gonzalez User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110906 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {32647:box511.bluehost.com:gonosade:estrads.com.ar} {sentby:smtp auth 201.231.72.20 authed with rjgonzale@estrads.com.ar} Subject: Re: load average with multi-core CPU's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:59:43 -0000 On 09/22/2011 04:29 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:22:43 -0500, Henry M wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Can someone explain, or point me to correct documentation on what the >> load >> average on top/uptime is actually displaying? > > Load average is "average number of processes in the run queue" for the > 1, 5, and 15 minute intervals. If you have a quad core CPU a 4.00 load > average means you've been keeping the CPU busy at 100%. Not exactly as I understand it....IO (disk, network or whatever) affects it too... It is the number of task waiting in queue to be run....but IO is important...if 2 processes are waiting for IO and it is completely saturated they will be kept in queue so load will get higher I think there are other things that affect load average but are over my current knowledge... Regards Rodrigo Gonzalez From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 21:02:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72F01065672 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B1B8FC12 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p8ML1rZE086983; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:01:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id p8ML1r3d086982; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:01:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:01:53 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <20110922210153.GA86907@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20110922193051.GA22429@thought.org> <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: kline@thought.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:02:40 -0000 On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 03:14:50PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 22 14:30:49 2011 > > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:30:54 -0700 > > From: Gary Kline > > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > > Cc: > > Subject: much to my surprise.... > > > > > > guys, > > > > well, after a forced, unexpected, and emergency 5 days away, i got > > back to my desk and could not ping. while mail seemed to be working, > > and my *local* ping worked---I could ping around from my freebsd server > > to my other computers--i spent 3+ hours trying to ping various > > sites. Zero. i tried everything i could think of. NOTHING worked. > > i tried the -d -f -f to named and on and on and on. nothing. > > > > *Finally*, i saw that my telco router was displaying "INT" in red > > LED's. i didn't know they displayed in any other color but the > > default green, but after power-cycling, voila! back to green. > > and now, yes, i can ping freebsd.org. and i'm pretty sure other > > network things will work too. > > > > from any/all sysadmin types or others:: > > i would like tricks, tips, insights--whatever--about named and > > whatever else. i thought i had collected many. nope. i've got > > bind 9.8 installed and it was working fine until my recent > > 'vacation.' Other than checking one's routers (hub/switch), and other > > hardware (including server, computers, cables, etc) does anybody have a > > checklist of what to do to diagnose this? are there any other > > utilities i can try besides ping and named -d 3 -f -g? other > > network utilities with a debug flag? i'm running 7.3 on a dell 530. > > > > tia for any insights, > > You should _really_ consider hiring a professional to maintain your > systems. > > Diagnosing _this_ problem should have taken no more than about 30 > *seconds*. > > If you can't get somewhere 'by name', you try to get there 'by address'. > > If 'by address' works and 'by name' doesn't, *that* is the indication of > a DNS problem. > > If you can't get there 'by address', it is *NOT* a DNS problem, and you > start looking for a 'connectivity' problem. > > The *BASIC* tools for that start with 'traceroute'. Which would have > *immediately* (well, within abut ten seconds :) indicated exactly _where_ > the problem was. > > Those who don't understand these kind dof things are "too dangerous" > to be trusted with the superuser password. > > Bluntly, not only do you not know the things you need to know to manage > a (even 'personal') network, you "DON'T KNOW _what_ you don't know", and > until you *do* learn the basics, you'll save youself a *LOT* of hair- > tearing if you hire someone to solve the problems for you. While your information may be correct and useful, your self-righteous arrogant diatribe is not helpful or appropriate on this list. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 21:29:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CDE106566B for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:29:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46318FC08 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A46F26DA3C4; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:31:06 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15DT5j4X+yX6; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:30:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.250.254] (unknown [12.161.8.194]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7AC1426DA3C3; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:30:53 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:28:50 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4B62F4A4-4B49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com> References: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: Robert Bonomi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) Cc: kline@thought.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:29:07 -0000 On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> =46rom owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 22 14:30:49 2011 >> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:30:54 -0700 >> From: Gary Kline >> To: FreeBSD Mailing List >> Cc:=20 >> Subject: much to my surprise.... >>=20 >>=20 >> guys, >>=20 >> well, after a forced, unexpected, and emergency 5 days away, i got >> back to my desk and could not ping. while mail seemed to be working,=20= >> and my *local* ping worked---I could ping around from my freebsd = server >> to my other computers--i spent 3+ hours trying to ping various >> sites. Zero. i tried everything i could think of. NOTHING worked. =20= >> i tried the -d -f -f to named and on and on and on. nothing. >>=20 >> *Finally*, i saw that my telco router was displaying "INT" in red >> LED's. i didn't know they displayed in any other color but the >> default green, but after power-cycling, voila! back to green. =20 >> and now, yes, i can ping freebsd.org. and i'm pretty sure other >> network things will work too. =20 >>=20 >> from any/all sysadmin types or others:: >> i would like tricks, tips, insights--whatever--about named and >> whatever else. i thought i had collected many. nope. i've got >> bind 9.8 installed and it was working fine until my recent >> 'vacation.' Other than checking one's routers (hub/switch), and = other=20 >> hardware (including server, computers, cables, etc) does anybody have = a >> checklist of what to do to diagnose this? are there any other >> utilities i can try besides ping and named -d 3 -f -g? other >> network utilities with a debug flag? i'm running 7.3 on a dell 530. >>=20 >> tia for any insights, >=20 > You should _really_ consider hiring a professional to maintain your=20 > systems. >=20 > Diagnosing _this_ problem should have taken no more than about 30 > *seconds*.=20 >=20 > If you can't get somewhere 'by name', you try to get there 'by = address'. >=20 > If 'by address' works and 'by name' doesn't, *that* is the indication = of > a DNS problem. >=20 > If you can't get there 'by address', it is *NOT* a DNS problem, and = you=20 > start looking for a 'connectivity' problem. >=20 > The *BASIC* tools for that start with 'traceroute'. Which would have > *immediately* (well, within abut ten seconds :) indicated exactly = _where_=20 > the problem was. >=20 > Those who don't understand these kind dof things are "too dangerous" > to be trusted with the superuser password. >=20 > Bluntly, not only do you not know the things you need to know to = manage > a (even 'personal') network, you "DON'T KNOW _what_ you don't know", = and=20 > until you *do* learn the basics, you'll save youself a *LOT* of hair- > tearing if you hire someone to solve the problems for you. I whole-heartedly agree with Robert's points. I host in my apartment... but I have more than a decade's experience = maintaining networks and systems and, while the occasional issue stumps = me, I'm pretty good at getting to the root of issues in minutes vs = hours. Yes, I was once a... for lack of a better term... moron on these things = and I relied heavily on the tech who pushed me (gently) towards =83BSD = from RHL and I am gracious every day for that nudge. Experience is the best way to pick up the "quick list" of things to = check on if there's a problem on your connectivity... but there's one = thing I *must* stress: NEVER EVER EVER run your own DNS service. It's = too much of a PITA. When I quit doing my own DNS my issues revolving = around that ended. I use DynDNS to run my primary domain and all the = others run through GoDaddy's free DNS manager. This is because I use the = primary domain's hostname as my MX record on all the others. While GD's = DNS is functional, it's also cumbersome, too cumbersome to update on a = semi-regular basis. I highly suggest that you do the same. $20/year for DynDNS' full domain = service is worth the price. My two bits (and a nibble). -- Ryan= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 23:19:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD490106564A for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s19.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s19.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EAFF8FC08 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP359 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s19.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:19:26 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [76.182.105.57] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([76.182.105.57]) by BLU0-SMTP359.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:19:25 -0700 Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3S4YgJ3xfvz2CG44 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:19:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:19:23 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2011 23:19:25.0827 (UTC) FILETIME=[11CB2D30:01CC797E] Subject: Support for "Brother" products X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:19:27 -0000 I just got a reply back from a representative from Brother International. I had inquired about the available of device drivers for FreeBSD for their products. They currently fully support Windows, Linux and Debian. He informed me himself that he is a *nix user and understands my concerns. However, as in any business that intends to turn a profit they have to cater to known markets. While supporting *BSD is something they have been considering, they felt that there is just not enough interest in their products to make it a win-win situation. He thanked me for my inquiry and told me that if other FreeBSD users would contact him with requests for drivers suitable for FreeBSD they would seriously consider it. Therefore, if anyone is interested in contacting him, this is the e-mail address: -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 00:08:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A921065674 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 00:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594738FC1B for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 00:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p8N08cDP026297; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:08:38 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (host-92-22-130-66.as13285.net [92.22.130.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p8N08br6026290; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:08:37 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 568DE33C1F; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:08:37 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:08:37 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20110923000837.GD7704@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4B62F4A4-4B49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="F8dlzb82+Fcn6AgP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B62F4A4-4B49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 00:08:42 -0000 --F8dlzb82+Fcn6AgP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 04:28:50PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: > >=20 > On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >=20 > >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 22 14:30:49 > >> 2011 Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:30:54 -0700 From: Gary Kline > >> To: FreeBSD Mailing List > >> Cc: Subject: much to my > >> surprise.... > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> guys, > >>=20 > >> well, after a forced, unexpected, and emergency 5 days away, i > >> got back to my desk and could not ping. while mail seemed to be > >> working, and my *local* ping worked---I could ping around from my > >> freebsd server to my other computers--i spent 3+ hours trying to > >> ping various sites. Zero. i tried everything i could think of. > >> NOTHING worked. i tried the -d -f -f to named and on and on and > >> on. nothing. > >>=20 > >> *Finally*, i saw that my telco router was displaying "INT" in > >> red LED's. i didn't know they displayed in any other color but > >> the default green, but after power-cycling, voila! back to green. > >> and now, yes, i can ping freebsd.org. and i'm pretty sure other > >> network things will work too. =20 > >>=20 > >> from any/all sysadmin types or others:: i would like tricks, > >> tips, insights--whatever--about named and whatever else. i > >> thought i had collected many. nope. i've got bind 9.8 > >> installed and it was working fine until my recent 'vacation.' > >> Other than checking one's routers (hub/switch), and other > >> hardware (including server, computers, cables, etc) does anybody > >> have a checklist of what to do to diagnose this? are there any > >> other utilities i can try besides ping and named -d 3 -f -g? > >> other network utilities with a debug flag? i'm running 7.3 on a > >> dell 530. > >>=20 > >> tia for any insights, > >=20 > > You should _really_ consider hiring a professional to maintain > > your systems. > >=20 > > Diagnosing _this_ problem should have taken no more than about 30 > > *seconds*.=20 > >=20 > > If you can't get somewhere 'by name', you try to get there 'by > > address'. > >=20 > > If 'by address' works and 'by name' doesn't, *that* is the > > indication of a DNS problem. > >=20 > > If you can't get there 'by address', it is *NOT* a DNS problem, > > and you start looking for a 'connectivity' problem. > >=20 > > The *BASIC* tools for that start with 'traceroute'. Which would > > have *immediately* (well, within abut ten seconds :) indicated > > exactly _where_ the problem was. > >=20 > > Those who don't understand these kind dof things are "too > > dangerous" to be trusted with the superuser password. > >=20 > > Bluntly, not only do you not know the things you need to know to > > manage a (even 'personal') network, you "DON'T KNOW _what_ you > > don't know", and until you *do* learn the basics, you'll save > > youself a *LOT* of hair- tearing if you hire someone to solve the > > problems for you. >=20 > I whole-heartedly agree with Robert's points. >=20 > I host in my apartment... but I have more than a decade's experience > maintaining networks and systems and, while the occasional issue > stumps me, I'm pretty good at getting to the root of issues in > minutes vs hours. >=20 > Yes, I was once a... for lack of a better term... moron on these > things and I relied heavily on the tech who pushed me (gently) > towards ?BSD from RHL and I am gracious every day for that nudge. >=20 > Experience is the best way to pick up the "quick list" of things to > check on if there's a problem on your connectivity... but there's > one thing I *must* stress: NEVER EVER EVER run your own DNS service. > It's too much of a PITA. When I quit doing my own DNS my issues > revolving around that ended. I use DynDNS to run my primary domain > and all the others run through GoDaddy's free DNS manager. This is > because I use the primary domain's hostname as my MX record on all > the others. While GD's DNS is functional, it's also cumbersome, too > cumbersome to update on a semi-regular basis. I highly suggest that > you do the same. $20/year for DynDNS' full domain service is worth > the price. >=20 > My two bits (and a nibble). -- > Ryan_______________________________________________ It's $30/year for DynDNS where I am (UK). I had to use them because my static IP all of a sudden became dynamic (crappy ISP). Now it seems to have gone back to static again. I certainly wouldn't consider running my own DNS server (having done it). It's more trouble than it's worth and is just one more vulnerability/thing to go wrong. You can just use hosts for a small network. Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --F8dlzb82+Fcn6AgP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk57zgQACgkQHduKvUAgeK5cSACeNUTxt+B+JdU16aBL1SfVzznx KkgAoIA2QEm0Dcffn++GTEnFlNG5JVO5 =DXyV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --F8dlzb82+Fcn6AgP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 01:31:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7C5106564A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1CD8FC0A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A3109E80718; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:31:19 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20110923013119.GA8424@thought.org> References: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4B62F4A4-4B49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B62F4A4-4B49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:31:20 -0000 On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 04:28:50PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:28:50 -0500 > From: Ryan Coleman > Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... > To: Robert Bonomi > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kline@thought.org > X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) > > > On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 22 14:30:49 2011 > >> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:30:54 -0700 > >> From: Gary Kline > >> To: FreeBSD Mailing List > >> Cc: > >> Subject: much to my surprise.... > >> > >> > >> guys, > >> > >> well, after a forced, unexpected, and emergency 5 days away, i got > >> back to my desk and could not ping. while mail seemed to be working, > >> and my *local* ping worked---I could ping around from my freebsd server > >> to my other computers--i spent 3+ hours trying to ping various > >> sites. Zero. i tried everything i could think of. NOTHING worked. > >> i tried the -d -f -f to named and on and on and on. nothing. > >> > >> *Finally*, i saw that my telco router was displaying "INT" in red > >> LED's. i didn't know they displayed in any other color but the > >> default green, but after power-cycling, voila! back to green. > >> and now, yes, i can ping freebsd.org. and i'm pretty sure other > >> network things will work too. > >> > >> from any/all sysadmin types or others:: > >> i would like tricks, tips, insights--whatever--about named and > >> whatever else. i thought i had collected many. nope. i've got > >> bind 9.8 installed and it was working fine until my recent > >> 'vacation.' Other than checking one's routers (hub/switch), and other > >> hardware (including server, computers, cables, etc) does anybody have a > >> checklist of what to do to diagnose this? are there any other > >> utilities i can try besides ping and named -d 3 -f -g? other > >> network utilities with a debug flag? i'm running 7.3 on a dell 530. > >> > >> tia for any insights, > > > > You should _really_ consider hiring a professional to maintain your > > systems. > > > > Diagnosing _this_ problem should have taken no more than about 30 > > *seconds*. > > > > If you can't get somewhere 'by name', you try to get there 'by address'. > > > > If 'by address' works and 'by name' doesn't, *that* is the indication of > > a DNS problem. > > > > If you can't get there 'by address', it is *NOT* a DNS problem, and you > > start looking for a 'connectivity' problem. points all well taken, robert, thanks. i was ready to fire off a few shots of my colt bisley 454, then took two deep breaths and soldiered on. [note that at least one other fellow has suggested that i just hire somebody to maintain my connectivity.] but i've been doing this for a while, and until i was away for five days, everything had been going fine for over a month. oh:: one power-out. the UPS saved the server, but everything else needed to be reinitialized. > > > > The *BASIC* tools for that start with 'traceroute'. Which would have > > *immediately* (well, within abut ten seconds :) indicated exactly _where_ > > the problem was. would traceroute have told me to check the "modem"/router? > > > > Those who don't understand these kind dof things are "too dangerous" > > to be trusted with the superuser password. > > > > Bluntly, not only do you not know the things you need to know to manage > > a (even 'personal') network, you "DON'T KNOW _what_ you don't know", and > > until you *do* learn the basics, you'll save youself a *LOT* of hair- > > tearing if you hire someone to solve the problems for you. > > I whole-heartedly agree with Robert's points. > > I host in my apartment... but I have more than a decade's experience maintaining networks and systems and, while the occasional issue stumps me, I'm pretty good at getting to the root of issues in minutes vs hours. would you believe: i'm slow at typing, ? > > Yes, I was once a... for lack of a better term... moron on these things and I relied heavily on the tech who pushed me (gently) towards ?BSD from RHL and I am gracious every day for that nudge. > i've used REAL UNIX [[$1100] for SVR4; and before than VAT, a 286 version of SVR2; then chose FreeBSD with 2.0.5. things started out as a dialup BBS and evolved since july '86 system administration is something i do reluctantly. adding system calls to the tera kernel plus other kernel work on the the hardware version of a 128-stream CPU seemed infinitely easier than this.... > Experience is the best way to pick up the "quick list" of things to check on if there's a problem on your connectivity... but there's one thing I *must* stress: NEVER EVER EVER run your own DNS service. It's too much of a PITA. When I quit doing my own DNS my issues revolving around that ended. i dont want to sound like a goodie two-shoes, but i've been running a web site for a builder friend hereabouts. gratis. tiny business; guy and two others, and since builders are hurting, why not. everything runs off my own ./master and named.conf are the only file i had to bother with. that took several days to get right since i've only been on-the-net since '01. some guy in Dallas saved my ancient system from collapse in jan '08 by some voodoo. how his DNS was set up was around 2/3rds different than the nutshell setup i learned from the Cricket Liu's book. it really was a superb read. cricket thought i was being a smart alec when i said that his book read like a novel. maybe i'm geekier than i thought. > I use DynDNS to run my primary domain and all the others run through GoDaddy's free DNS manager. This is because I use the primary domain's hostname as my MX record on all the others. While GD's DNS is functional, it's also cumbersome, too cumbersome to update on a semi-regular basis. > I highly suggest that you do the same. $20/year for DynDNS' full domain service is worth the price. ok, here's just the fax, man:: since i finished me m.a. in ethics, i have a truckload of philosophical-type mumblings continually ooozing forth. at the same time, i want to finish my key-click project in C++, and add that to my speech-computer. (i talked to whoever at the OLCP in '09 and learned that there at 100million disabled children in the world. 10m or 100million, (?), something implausible from where i am... . my typing-to-speech with keyboard click would be a win on the OLPC. but most kids can learn to press the membrane keyboard hard and most watch the screen. i keep my eyes on the keyboard.) nutshell, when that project is done, i can make use of my philosophy degree. i'm to the point where letting somebody else handle the dns-and-outward side sounds better by the day. i'v got more question if you care to answer them. i've been using gkg.net for a few years--8 or 9 anyway. but if switching to dyndns saves a lot of my flubs, hey. gaary > > My two bits (and a nibble). > -- > Ryan -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 01:43:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40561065670 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72838FC08 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADB8901; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:43:00 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20110923013119.GA8424@thought.org> References: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4B62F4A4-4B49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com> <20110923013119.GA8424@thought.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:43:03 -0000 --As of September 22, 2011 6:31:19 PM -0700, Gary Kline is alleged to have said: > i'm to the point where letting somebody else handle the > dns-and-outward side sounds better by the day. i'v got more > question if you care to answer them. i've been using > gkg.net for a few years--8 or 9 anyway. but if switching to > dyndns saves a lot of my flubs, hey. --As for the rest, it is mine. Just as an alternative vote: I've been using ZoneEdit for years. It's free if you are just running a couple of small sites. (Although I haven't tried their dynamic DNS features. I just pay the ISP for a static.) Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. 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This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 02:09:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D356F106566B; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:09:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B839B8FC08; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:09:08 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=WUtTOtx2knhN8GrrkBZpPmq0+cSLmK4CA3MHZO/fmAg=; b=LcKHoc+Q/TCdpm3+6sopLGpc9NWPuM0jgF3P2ppsWfmpDJLAPPyMelV/rmzamSA+gAGQ2LAUyLs+PkQOqWd2iRpLEVd88hHkdtBeZfGZK9xr0j+au8oa2EttJSwz6Q7cWJE0/qljFHc0F8XXGgPrkSty2tbVuD6ISYQ2PMiRSPg= Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([76.240.47.196]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:09:08 -0700 Message-ID: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:09:06 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Nathan Whitehorn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Sep 2011 02:09:08.0640 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7392200:01CC7995] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: 9.0 bsdinstall usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:09:08 -0000 I have installed 9.0 bata2 from cd and the net. In both cases after the completion of the install and rebooting, the bsdinstall scripts still remain on the new installed system. If I interpret the code logic correctly, bsdinstall can ONLY be used for an original install. It's not intended by design to be used any other time, unlike sysinstall. I think the "auto" script should have code added to remove all traces of the bsdinstall environment at the conclusion of the install. This way bsdinstall fulfills the original design goals and guarantees no one can exec it by accident and kill there running system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 02:20:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A94106566B; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B27E8FC13; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywp17 with SMTP id 17so3053081ywp.13 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:20:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nnsZ35a0NpI9Ni5FO+He9lFNTC+Akhat+yn8DFVLDmA=; b=GbhQCY+VsE7cOk5sqkRGUGoao4ZyDhGrx3khHt04NNIRCI0eoQjVXQ4YkwrHY0nlt+ AojoHHV5wy++kGYZRWEtHnGIS58CfEft2F9KekLAc38keigLNdLkmf87rkpZkBddcFXF OyvWs80xeO1Ci6jIeWb6kF81wIk9du4D4icS4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.176.65 with SMTP id a41mr18668592yhm.72.1316744418388; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.236.111.42 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:20:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> References: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:20:18 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LNeFGzP8YkAmWEnoKwKI6nSQd84 Message-ID: From: Adrian Chadd To: Fbsd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions , Nathan Whitehorn Subject: Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:20:19 -0000 On 23 September 2011 10:09, Fbsd8 wrote: > I have installed 9.0 bata2 from cd and the net. In both cases after the > completion of the install and rebooting, the bsdinstall scripts still remain > on the new installed system. If I interpret the code logic correctly, > bsdinstall can ONLY be used for an original install. It's not intended by > design to be used any other time, unlike sysinstall. I think the "auto" > script should have code added to remove all traces of the bsdinstall > environment at the conclusion of the install. This way bsdinstall fulfills > the original design goals and guarantees no one can exec it by accident and > kill there running system. Have you thought about filing PRs for your installer suggestions, just so they don't get lost? I've just filed a bsdinstaller PR for a wifi config bug; I'm likely going to file a few more PRs based on my interaction with the installer. Thanks, Adrian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 02:32:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FD6106564A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CC58FC16 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:32:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2A171E80442; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:32:41 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110923023241.GC8424@thought.org> References: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4B62F4A4-4B49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com> <20110923013119.GA8424@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:32:44 -0000 On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 09:43:00PM -0400, Daniel Staal wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:43:00 -0400 > From: Daniel Staal > Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... > To: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) > > --As of September 22, 2011 6:31:19 PM -0700, Gary Kline is alleged > to have said: > > > i'm to the point where letting somebody else handle the > > dns-and-outward side sounds better by the day. i'v got more > > question if you care to answer them. i've been using > > gkg.net for a few years--8 or 9 anyway. but if switching to > > dyndns saves a lot of my flubs, hey. > > --As for the rest, it is mine. > > Just as an alternative vote: I've been using ZoneEdit for years. > It's free if you are just running a couple of small sites. > (Although I haven't tried their dynamic DNS features. I just pay the > ISP for a static.) i've got 5 static IP's and several / many virtual domains. that's one reason i've hesitated. i'd guess maybe 3-6 megs of stuff. mostly text. www.thought.org is home; another directory hosts jottings.thought.org; another is transfinite.thougght.org; and philosophy.thought.org. i want to add a bbs or forum like phpbb3, IIRC. If i find some reasonable hosting place, how will be be able to mess with that. last time, i remember getting that going pretty tough. i'd like to have forums available on at least two of my virtual or subdomain websites. having it HERE, no problem ... hm. there was recent discussion about mysql and openoffice and all that stuff. i was having trouble with mysql . that's a whole nother thread. > > Daniel T. Staal > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you > are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use > the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will > expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, > whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of > local copyright law. > --------------------------------------------------------------- -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 02:48:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBD6106564A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from kane.compar.com (mx1.compar.com [207.236.25.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5888FC14 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hermes (unknown [192.168.0.18]) by kane.compar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04D315B28EC for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:58:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matt Emmerton" To: References: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4B62F4A4-4B49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com> <20110923013119.GA8424@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110923013119.GA8424@thought.org> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:48:09 -0400 Message-ID: <000b01cc799b$3abfec90$b03fc5b0$@on.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acx5kfaEgGnVrk+mRUCSMJo/E3CpTgABsdsg Content-Language: en-us Subject: RE: much to my surprise.... [ now trending #OT ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 02:48:10 -0000 >> >> *Finally*, i saw that my telco router was displaying "INT" in red >> >> LED's. i didn't know they displayed in any other color but the >> >> default green, but after power-cycling, voila! back to green. >> >> and now, yes, i can ping freebsd.org. and i'm pretty sure other >> >> network things will work too. The Mark I eyeball is an amazing tool. I recently had a HDSL link provided by my telco go down. I happened to be 2 hours away from the facility at the time. Tech support said the problem was the router because they couldn't get to it, and they just wouldn't believe me that it was up. (I could ping it from the "inside" via the secondary network connection.) So after I drove to the facility, I noticed that the HDSL modem (which is line-powered from some box on the street) had no lights. Ahah! 28 hours later (sigh) they found a blown circuit breaker somewhere. > but i've been doing this for a while, and > until i was away for five days, everything had been going > fine for over a month. oh:: one power-out. the UPS saved > the server, but everything else needed to be reinitialized. A lesson that I learned many years ago - if you can afford a "big" UPS for your servers, you can afford a "little" one for your telco/network equipment. -- Matt Emmerton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 05:00:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BB11065673; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2038FC16; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ur.gsoft.com.au (Ur.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.44]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8N4emqg030775 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:10:54 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: "Daniel O'Connor" In-Reply-To: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:10:47 +0930 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <94B70CFD-D1EA-4C64-8384-BBE00185280D@gsoft.com.au> References: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> To: Fbsd8 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) X-Spam-Score: -4.391 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions , Nathan Whitehorn Subject: Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:00:38 -0000 On 23/09/2011, at 11:39, Fbsd8 wrote: > I have installed 9.0 bata2 from cd and the net. In both cases after = the completion of the install and rebooting, the bsdinstall scripts = still remain on the new installed system. If I interpret the code logic = correctly, bsdinstall can ONLY be used for an original install. It's not = intended by design to be used any other time, unlike sysinstall. I think = the "auto" script should have code added to remove all traces of the = bsdinstall environment at the conclusion of the install. This way = bsdinstall fulfills the original design goals and guarantees no one can = exec it by accident and kill there running system. The binary is installed by default, but there it isn't run at startup. If it is being run then I would expect you are booting off your install = media again by accident. -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 07:14:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5F01065673 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 07:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7A08FC13 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 07:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8N7EcjJ084323 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:14:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8N7EcjJ084323 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1316762080; bh=BErDbcWeZ/roep3pOHx8WfoHtrRXhtyJH9SL/sY5jf8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E7C31D6.1040404@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20F ri,=2023=20Sep=202011=2008:14:30=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/2 0110902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Frank=20Shut e=20|CC:=20Ryan=20Coleman=20,=20=0D=0A=20FreeBSD=20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20much=20to=20my=20surprise....|References :=20<201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com>=20<4B62F4A4-4B 49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com>=20<20110923000837.GD7 704@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk>|In-Reply-To:=20<20110923000837.G D7704@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.1|Op enPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20mical g=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B= 0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig6612E4C151A734E585A942F0"; b=UWteR6KCXbZmy0gUATRaPSZipOWi7eAjG/e61u6WKZ8Xc8sKzMZV4qGHfu8rrk2VK xImkRnZapwlhcyyrhllSIUk0+k+Ex5+OJVa49Q0BhoVjChI8gNdwDpXUpocc+IWWnD 3BkxlYAAFiZDi6xIEqUrog+lImi0c0aZ/LRzRbjw= Message-ID: <4E7C31D6.1040404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:14:30 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Shute References: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4B62F4A4-4B49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com> <20110923000837.GD7704@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110923000837.GD7704@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6612E4C151A734E585A942F0" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Ryan Coleman , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 07:14:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6612E4C151A734E585A942F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 23/09/2011 01:08, Frank Shute wrote: > I had to use them because my static IP all of a sudden became dynamic > (crappy ISP). Now it seems to have gone back to static again. There are much better ISPs in the UK -- usually the smaller ones give you much better service. You can get a /28 fixed block as part of a standard package if you shop around. > I certainly wouldn't consider running my own DNS server (having done > it). It's more trouble than it's worth and is just one more > vulnerability/thing to go wrong. You can just use hosts for a small > network. Not my experience. Running my own DNS is simple and trouble free, plus it gives me much more scope to play with things like DNSSEC. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig6612E4C151A734E585A942F0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEUEARECAAYFAk58Md4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzCBgCWIgqvMioLrtEuUXl16VPcGMzm WACeN56WzZiODMqmaxR3X4YvE+NDVRQ= =TM3R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6612E4C151A734E585A942F0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 08:12:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E582106566B for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE628FC16 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so891033wyj.13 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.147.84 with SMTP id k20mr1785344wbv.71.1316765572755; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id en9sm15196677wbb.24.2011.09.23.01.12.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E7C3F83.2050805@my.gd> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:12:51 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E7BA1B8.5070109@estrads.com.ar> In-Reply-To: <4E7BA1B8.5070109@estrads.com.ar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: load average with multi-core CPU's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:12:55 -0000 On 9/22/11 10:59 PM, Rodrigo Gonzalez wrote: > On 09/22/2011 04:29 PM, Mark Felder wrote: >> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:22:43 -0500, Henry M wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Can someone explain, or point me to correct documentation on what the >>> load >>> average on top/uptime is actually displaying? >> >> Load average is "average number of processes in the run queue" for the >> 1, 5, and 15 minute intervals. If you have a quad core CPU a 4.00 load >> average means you've been keeping the CPU busy at 100%. > Not exactly as I understand it....IO (disk, network or whatever) affects > it too... > It is the number of task waiting in queue to be run....but IO is > important...if 2 processes are waiting for IO and it is completely > saturated they will be kept in queue so load will get higher > I think there are other things that affect load average but are over my > current knowledge... > > Regards > > Rodrigo Gonzalez Actually, I could be wrong but that is the number of tasks both in the waiting *AND* the running queue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 08:13:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45980106564A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B598FC27 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:13:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe3 with SMTP id 3so3083934wwe.31 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.158.197 with SMTP id q47mr4862462wek.13.1316765611599; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n21sm15249223wbp.2.2011.09.23.01.13.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 01:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E7C3FAA.9050600@my.gd> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:13:30 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: load average with multi-core CPU's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:13:33 -0000 On 9/22/11 10:34 PM, Henry M wrote: > Thanks- That's what I thought it was. I'm trying to settle an argument at > work : ) > http://xkcd.com/386/ Enjoy ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 09:30:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B33106566B for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@thorshammare.org) Received: from smtprelay-b12.telenor.se (smtprelay-b12.telenor.se [62.127.194.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3579F8FC13 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from iph4.telenor.se (iph4.telenor.se [195.54.127.135]) by smtprelay-b12.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F756EAFA9 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:30:16 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [83.227.225.121] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgV6AFZQfE5T4+F5PGdsb2JhbABCmwKNEAsBAQEBNzMEgU8BAQEBAgEBAQEFICYIFwEQCAMCFgICAwECGQ8HGQ4BBQQIAwcDCQgBAQQBBwcEAQoSBIdYAgS1BoN1gwgEh0KJeJNL X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,428,1312149600"; d="scan'208";a="1975070783" Received: from ua-83-227-225-121.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO odin.thorshammare.org) ([83.227.225.121]) by iph4.telenor.se with ESMTP; 23 Sep 2011 11:30:15 +0200 Received: from Obah (obah.thorshammare.org [192.168.1.10]) by odin.thorshammare.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8N9U7VI016431; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:30:08 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hasse Hansson" To: "'Robert Bonomi'" , , References: <20110922193051.GA22429@thought.org> <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:30:01 +0200 Message-ID: <000c01cc79d3$623e1d40$26ba57c0$@org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acx5ZGLo9vCEUG+MRS6+rhBVIuA0BgAbsM3A Content-Language: sv X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at mailserver.thorshammare.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: SV: much to my surprise.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:30:18 -0000 -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] P=E5 vegne af Robert Bonomi Sendt: den 22 september 2011 22:15 Til: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; kline@thought.org Emne: Re: much to my surprise.... > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 22 14:30:49 2011 > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:30:54 -0700 > From: Gary Kline > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Cc:=20 > Subject: much to my surprise.... > > > guys, > > well, after a forced, unexpected, and emergency 5 days away, i got > back to my desk and could not ping. while mail seemed to be working,=20 > and my *local* ping worked---I could ping around from my freebsd = server > to my other computers--i spent 3+ hours trying to ping various > sites. Zero. i tried everything i could think of. NOTHING worked. =20 > i tried the -d -f -f to named and on and on and on. nothing. > > *Finally*, i saw that my telco router was displaying "INT" in red > LED's. i didn't know they displayed in any other color but the > default green, but after power-cycling, voila! back to green. =20 > and now, yes, i can ping freebsd.org. and i'm pretty sure other > network things will work too. =20 > > from any/all sysadmin types or others:: > i would like tricks, tips, insights--whatever--about named and > whatever else. i thought i had collected many. nope. i've got > bind 9.8 installed and it was working fine until my recent > 'vacation.' Other than checking one's routers (hub/switch), and other = > hardware (including server, computers, cables, etc) does anybody have = a > checklist of what to do to diagnose this? are there any other > utilities i can try besides ping and named -d 3 -f -g? other > network utilities with a debug flag? i'm running 7.3 on a dell 530. > > tia for any insights, You should _really_ consider hiring a professional to maintain your=20 systems. Diagnosing _this_ problem should have taken no more than about 30 *seconds*.=20 If you can't get somewhere 'by name', you try to get there 'by address'. If 'by address' works and 'by name' doesn't, *that* is the indication of a DNS problem. If you can't get there 'by address', it is *NOT* a DNS problem, and you=20 start looking for a 'connectivity' problem. The *BASIC* tools for that start with 'traceroute'. Which would have *immediately* (well, within abut ten seconds :) indicated exactly = _where_=20 the problem was. Those who don't understand these kind dof things are "too dangerous" to be trusted with the superuser password. Bluntly, not only do you not know the things you need to know to manage a (even 'personal') network, you "DON'T KNOW _what_ you don't know", and = until you *do* learn the basics, you'll save youself a *LOT* of hair- tearing if you hire someone to solve the problems for you. And miss all the fun by learning by doing :-) /hasse _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 09:35:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE831065672 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898A08FC15 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p8N9YxRx088414 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 04:34:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 04:34:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201109230934.p8N9YxRx088414@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4E7C3F83.2050805@my.gd> Subject: Re: load average with multi-core CPU's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:35:25 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 23 03:15:37 2011 > Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:12:51 +0200 > From: Damien Fleuriot > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: load average with multi-core CPU's > > On 9/22/11 10:59 PM, Rodrigo Gonzalez wrote: > > On 09/22/2011 04:29 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > >> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:22:43 -0500, Henry M wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Can someone explain, or point me to correct documentation on what the > >>> load > >>> average on top/uptime is actually displaying? > >> > >> Load average is "average number of processes in the run queue" for the > >> 1, 5, and 15 minute intervals. If you have a quad core CPU a 4.00 load > >> average means you've been keeping the CPU busy at 100%. > > Not exactly as I understand it....IO (disk, network or whatever) affects > > it too... > > It is the number of task waiting in queue to be run....but IO is > > important...if 2 processes are waiting for IO and it is completely > > saturated they will be kept in queue so load will get higher > > I think there are other things that affect load average but are over my > > current knowledge... > > > > Regards > > > > Rodrigo Gonzalez > > Actually, I could be wrong but that is the number of tasks both in the > waiting *AND* the running queue. It is the average of the number of 'runnable' processes -- those that are actually running (which is -- obviously! -- limited to the number of logical cpu's present) and those that are -- in _all_ other respects -- 'ready' to be run. This list of processes -- 'running' and 'runnable -- is known as the 'run queue'. The cpu 'scheduler' allocated cpu time slots between the processes in the 'run queueu', _only_. Anything -not- in the 'run queue' is not eligible for a slice of cpu time -- because it "can't" use cpu time, if it were to be offered, because it is 'waiting' on something else. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 09:57:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129BA1065670 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:57:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@thorshammare.org) Received: from smtprelay-h11.telenor.se (smtprelay-h11.telenor.se [62.127.194.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873388FC0C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from iph2.telenor.se (iph2.telenor.se [195.54.127.133]) by smtprelay-h11.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E5C483B6; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:43:01 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [83.227.225.121] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkP7ABtUfE5T4+F5PGdsb2JhbABCmwKNEAsBAQEBNzMENAKBGQEBAQECAQEBAQUgJgcBGAsFCAMCFgICAwECARgMAwcZDgEFBAgDBwMJCAEBBAEHBwQBChIBA4dYAgSnB44Jg3WDCASHQol4k0s X-Suspected-Spam: Yes X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,428,1312149600"; d="scan'208";a="481857566" Received: from ua-83-227-225-121.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO odin.thorshammare.org) ([83.227.225.121]) by iph2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 23 Sep 2011 11:43:00 +0200 Received: from Obah (obah.thorshammare.org [192.168.1.10]) by odin.thorshammare.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8N9gxAH000242; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:42:59 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hasse Hansson" To: "'Gary Kline'" , "'Ryan Coleman'" References: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4B62F4A4-4B49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com> <20110923013119.GA8424@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110923013119.GA8424@thought.org> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:42:53 +0200 Message-ID: <001301cc79d5$2d9b7720$88d26560$@org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acx5kIiLUvTSskyjTt6yjxQCQ5ApBgAQ/Ceg Content-Language: sv X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at mailserver.thorshammare.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, 'Robert Bonomi' Subject: SV: much to my surprise.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:57:50 -0000 -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] P=E5 vegne af Gary Kline Sendt: den 23 september 2011 03:31 Til: Ryan Coleman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Robert Bonomi Emne: Re: much to my surprise.... On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 04:28:50PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:28:50 -0500 > From: Ryan Coleman > Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... > To: Robert Bonomi > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kline@thought.org > X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) >=20 >=20 > On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >=20 > >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 22 14:30:49 2011 > >> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:30:54 -0700 > >> From: Gary Kline > >> To: FreeBSD Mailing List > >> Cc:=20 > >> Subject: much to my surprise.... > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> guys, > >>=20 > >> well, after a forced, unexpected, and emergency 5 days away, i got > >> back to my desk and could not ping. while mail seemed to be = working,=20 > >> and my *local* ping worked---I could ping around from my freebsd = server > >> to my other computers--i spent 3+ hours trying to ping various > >> sites. Zero. i tried everything i could think of. NOTHING = worked. =20 > >> i tried the -d -f -f to named and on and on and on. nothing. > >>=20 > >> *Finally*, i saw that my telco router was displaying "INT" in red > >> LED's. i didn't know they displayed in any other color but the > >> default green, but after power-cycling, voila! back to green. =20 > >> and now, yes, i can ping freebsd.org. and i'm pretty sure other > >> network things will work too. =20 > >>=20 > >> from any/all sysadmin types or others:: > >> i would like tricks, tips, insights--whatever--about named and > >> whatever else. i thought i had collected many. nope. i've got > >> bind 9.8 installed and it was working fine until my recent > >> 'vacation.' Other than checking one's routers (hub/switch), and = other=20 > >> hardware (including server, computers, cables, etc) does anybody = have a > >> checklist of what to do to diagnose this? are there any other > >> utilities i can try besides ping and named -d 3 -f -g? other > >> network utilities with a debug flag? i'm running 7.3 on a dell = 530. > >>=20 > >> tia for any insights, > >=20 > > You should _really_ consider hiring a professional to maintain your=20 > > systems. > >=20 > > Diagnosing _this_ problem should have taken no more than about 30 > > *seconds*.=20 > >=20 > > If you can't get somewhere 'by name', you try to get there 'by = address'. > >=20 > > If 'by address' works and 'by name' doesn't, *that* is the = indication of > > a DNS problem. > >=20 > > If you can't get there 'by address', it is *NOT* a DNS problem, and = you=20 > > start looking for a 'connectivity' problem. points all well taken, robert, thanks. i was ready to fire off a few shots of my colt bisley 454, then took two deep breaths and soldiered on. [note that at least one other fellow has suggested that i just hire somebody to maintain my connectivity.] but i've been doing this for a while, and until i was away for five days, everything had been going fine for over a month. oh:: one power-out. the UPS saved the server, but everything else needed to be reinitialized. > >=20 > > The *BASIC* tools for that start with 'traceroute'. Which would = have > > *immediately* (well, within abut ten seconds :) indicated exactly _where_=20 > > the problem was. would traceroute have told me to check the "modem"/router? =20 > >=20 > > Those who don't understand these kind dof things are "too = dangerous" > > to be trusted with the superuser password. > >=20 > > Bluntly, not only do you not know the things you need to know to = manage > > a (even 'personal') network, you "DON'T KNOW _what_ you don't know", = and > > until you *do* learn the basics, you'll save youself a *LOT* of = hair- > > tearing if you hire someone to solve the problems for you. >=20 > I whole-heartedly agree with Robert's points. >=20 > I host in my apartment... but I have more than a decade's experience maintaining networks and systems and, while the occasional issue stumps = me, I'm pretty good at getting to the root of issues in minutes vs hours. would you believe: i'm slow at typing, ? >=20 > Yes, I was once a... for lack of a better term... moron on these = things and I relied heavily on the tech who pushed me (gently) towards ?BSD = from RHL and I am gracious every day for that nudge. >=20 i've used REAL UNIX [[$1100] for SVR4; and before than VAT, a 286 version of SVR2; then chose FreeBSD with 2.0.5. =20 things started out as a dialup BBS and evolved since july '86 system administration is something i do reluctantly. adding system calls to the tera kernel plus other kernel work on the the hardware version of a 128-stream CPU seemed infinitely easier than this.... > Experience is the best way to pick up the "quick list" of things to = check on if there's a problem on your connectivity... but there's one thing I *must* stress: NEVER EVER EVER run your own DNS service. It's too much = of a PITA. When I quit doing my own DNS my issues revolving around that = ended.=20 i dont want to sound like a goodie two-shoes, but i've been running a web site for a builder friend hereabouts. gratis.=20 tiny business; guy and two others, and since builders are hurting, why not. everything runs off my own ./master and=20 named.conf are the only file i had to bother with. that took=20 several days to get right since i've only been on-the-net since '01. some guy in Dallas saved my ancient system from collapse in jan '08 by some voodoo. how his DNS was set up was around 2/3rds different than the nutshell setup i learned from the Cricket Liu's book. it really was a superb read. cricket thought i was being a smart alec when i said that his book read like a novel. maybe i'm geekier than i thought. =20 > I use DynDNS to run my primary domain and all the others run through GoDaddy's free DNS manager. This is because I use the primary domain's hostname as my MX record on all the others. While GD's DNS is = functional, it's also cumbersome, too cumbersome to update on a semi-regular basis. > I highly suggest that you do the same. $20/year for DynDNS' full = domain service is worth the price. ok, here's just the fax, man:: since i finished me m.a. in ethics, i have a truckload of philosophical-type mumblings continually ooozing forth. at the same time, i want to finish my key-click project in C++, and add that to my speech-computer. (i talked to whoever at the OLCP in '09 and learned that there at 100million disabled children in the world. 10m or 100million, (?), something implausible from where i am... . my typing-to-speech with keyboard click would be a win on the OLPC. but most kids can learn to press the membrane keyboard hard and most watch the screen. i keep my eyes on the keyboard.) nutshell, when that project is done, i can make use of my philosophy degree. =20 i'm to the point where letting somebody else handle the dns-and-outward side sounds better by the day. i'v got more question if you care to answer them. i've been using gkg.net for a few years--8 or 9 anyway. but if switching to=20 dyndns saves a lot of my flubs, hey. gaary >=20 > My two bits (and a nibble). > -- > Ryan --=20 Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service = Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Hello. "Outsourcing" primary DNS services saves a lot of hassle. I've been using http://freedns.afraid.org/ for a couple of years with = great satisfaction. Please check'em out before decide. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 08:21:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45401065670; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:21:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from adsum.doit.wisc.edu (adsum.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.197.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9924B8FC0A; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:21:44 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from avs-daemon.smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu by smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) id <0LRY00A00V87CY00@smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 03:21:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wanderer.tachypleus.net (78-70-168-180-no110.tbcn.telia.com [78.70.168.180]) by smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.05 32bit (built Jul 30 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0LRY004VOV852F10@smtpauth1.wiscmail.wisc.edu>; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 03:21:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:21:28 +0200 From: Nathan Whitehorn In-reply-to: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> To: Fbsd8 Message-id: <4E7C4188.2050508@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Report: AuthenticatedSender=yes, SenderIP=78.70.168.180 X-Spam-PmxInfo: Server=avs-13, Version=5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2011.9.23.81214, SenderIP=78.70.168.180 References: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110917 Thunderbird/6.0.2 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:28:55 +0000 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:21:44 -0000 On 09/23/11 04:09, Fbsd8 wrote: > I have installed 9.0 bata2 from cd and the net. In both cases after the > completion of the install and rebooting, the bsdinstall scripts still > remain on the new installed system. If I interpret the code logic > correctly, bsdinstall can ONLY be used for an original install. It's not > intended by design to be used any other time, unlike sysinstall. I think > the "auto" script should have code added to remove all traces of the > bsdinstall environment at the conclusion of the install. This way > bsdinstall fulfills the original design goals and guarantees no one can > exec it by accident and kill there running system. It's quite useful after install time for installing new systems (e.g. jails). It also uses approximately zero disk space. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 11:38:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22B1106566B for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eesimorp@yahoo.com) Received: from nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABB478FC17 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.70] by nm24.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2011 11:25:12 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.37] by tm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2011 11:25:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1037.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2011 11:25:12 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 638934.76168.bm@omp1037.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 74634 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Sep 2011 11:25:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1316777112; bh=cibArZDgoLjzROPSH/hyQYMtM6qx8UW7XVqnVDEbJYE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=joepKxdU116e4kjMJQGE/4dhXbkxqHapkV5Wwt4qbcpXi/POfvaBlHM4/VSoxczrk7ympeTiz8sgij2OcJxSIzCsAF0w2hlxXrmfnn6m4WhmH7UY0V5pjZMJ/X4PPlYWSZtZnUJh+YnA1iMobtOvuCpZm50YHzmAIRVLgZd4WXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l0vtBeV1GGu67wmHBciSrOUs0cHkAlIY49DmuHkss9jPJrxDOfxE6dxrY4opFW2M7IjLRfdI6NHqFiZnrKmzMtCI0MafemE1xV9gVbsCGC4P2lJBtWX46OOYMnJvC5VymhaNOI4b7eeGHBW0fAkXeG5bZuvQzFfa+jlCJhSuS4A=; X-YMail-OSG: 1yRtLRQVM1lt2hoRF5c70VN8cACNNnEpY8q2juymmy_rA73 LJ3N51UMNk3v6CJ4D_Gn6piEsx4T2qmbLRObXT79Jm3cPRUxDZcWXGe7oSih EcSfDXnwhTxiW0eNAAmRerJRV3LmbpGFPLlHoheTruC_DMeP4LJfTz2mrwxh aV5D0M8BA1eQDpvX6NidMJS8L0Q9VtBBflNQ3hURZdyBg0iBhhZG_oS8KeBW zpOemwCzQUyfUGyP0gKxq6gL9r_zD8wJWlkOwRXbKTsjFmOPQ8uJYMHhsPoW ALSDppF0c_E9aRXXQR_QAAzEo7vR5g4.gFxGm3h7eLEp6ESIeoQ.5OgjOuFn 9U5SpfdkW2jebtWrlLlFmibw5xxlCg6fOt53nWB3QuBnw.VowpcKjzoUjd1T azNKiyUcB1CsXzsDupYbFIWuCCMXPlEB3vQY4KngjPsjoQh7l4RmXqJvvUex 6.hKadS7qv8x6KdX9r8zOiZlKWezOZDVUnspVKgE91K6D3w8fWxAWMFdm2rf 8C4tNCpiRrregENbnekAhD7bmeRR0GxWp Received: from [219.93.13.232] by web111802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 04:25:12 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 Message-ID: <1316777112.68517.YahooMailClassic@web111802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 04:25:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Esimorp E To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Overwrite bsd tar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:38:09 -0000 Dear all, I tried installing GridFTP on Freebsd, had errors which a user group said is due to bsd tar and I downloaded and installed Gnu tar which is required but the command 'tar --version' still show bsd tar as the default. Tried using package and encountered error as shown below. [prom@pcbsd-2112] ~> tar --version bsdtar 2.7.0 - libarchive 2.7.0 [prom@pcbsd-2112] ~> su Password: [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# pkg_add -r tar Error: Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/Latest/tar.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/Latest/tar.tbz' by URL I would be grateful if anyone could help me out on how to overwrite bsd tar with Gnu tar. Best Regards, Morp. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 11:59:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550EB106564A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@g8kbv.demon.co.uk) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE4F8FC0C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dyn-62-56-69-8.dslaccess.co.uk ([62.56.69.8] helo=[192.168.42.12]) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtpa (AUTH g8kbv) (Exim 4.69) id 1R73vC-0001Hz-nL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:27:58 +0000 From: "Dave" To: Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:27:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4E7C6D3D.1196.2C8EDE72@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <000b01cc799b$3abfec90$b03fc5b0$@on.ca> References: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com>, <20110923013119.GA8424@thought.org>, <000b01cc799b$3abfec90$b03fc5b0$@on.ca> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.61) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... [ now trending #OT ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:59:44 -0000 From: "Matt Emmerton" > > > > but i've been doing this for a while, and > > until i was away for five days, everything had been going > > fine for over a month. oh:: one power-out. the UPS saved > > the server, but everything else needed to be reinitialized. > > A lesson that I learned many years ago - if you can afford a "big" UPS > for your servers, you can afford a "little" one for your telco/network > equipment. > I'm using some PoE kit to power the router remotely down it's LAN cable, that in turn run's from the protected supply from the UPS. Said UPS also powers the main network switch, as well as my own LAN server (f'BSD based, to stay vaguely on toppic!) Plus two other PC's and a NAS device. It'll hold that lot up, for over 20 minutes when the lights go out (the longest unscheduled outage so far.) It's also configured to NOT come back, if it runs down and cuts out. I'll do that manually if needed. (Not so far.) I never did get the BSD port of APCUPSD to work correctly. All works well. Also, easy to do a router "Hard" restart, without going to the router itself. And if it does all die, it fails safe. Regards. Dave B. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 12:04:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8685106567B for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:04:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164028FC17 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:04:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-64-49.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.64.49]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p8NC4Z3J092300; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:04:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4E7C75D3.5080206@bananmonarki.se> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:04:35 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110821 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Esimorp E References: <1316777112.68517.YahooMailClassic@web111802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1316777112.68517.YahooMailClassic@web111802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Overwrite bsd tar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:04:39 -0000 2011-09-23 13:25, Esimorp E skrev: > > I would be grateful if anyone could help me out on how to overwrite bsd tar with Gnu tar. Thats not a good idea. If you want to use gnu tar then gtar is the command for you. Or copy tar to tar.bsd and make a symlink tar > gtar. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 12:07:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DA9106566C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CF28FC16 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1154720wyj.13 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.230.89 with SMTP id i67mr3587590weq.51.1316779672172; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id es10sm10330048wbb.4.2011.09.23.05.07.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E7C7695.7020602@my.gd> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:07:49 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1316777112.68517.YahooMailClassic@web111802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4E7C75D3.5080206@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <4E7C75D3.5080206@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Overwrite bsd tar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:07:54 -0000 On 9/23/11 2:04 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2011-09-23 13:25, Esimorp E skrev: >> >> I would be grateful if anyone could help me out on how to overwrite >> bsd tar with Gnu tar. > > Thats not a good idea. If you want to use gnu tar then gtar is the > command for you. Or copy tar to tar.bsd and make a symlink tar > gtar. Even worse, what's going to happen when some BSD specific software tries to pass BSD specific options to gnutar ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 12:11:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053B2106566B for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972428FC17 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1159485wyj.13 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.208.137 with SMTP id gc9mr3543824wbb.91.1316779916275; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gd6sm16178317wbb.1.2011.09.23.05.11.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E7C7789.3060504@my.gd> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:11:53 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1316777112.68517.YahooMailClassic@web111802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1316777112.68517.YahooMailClassic@web111802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Overwrite bsd tar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:11:58 -0000 On 9/23/11 1:25 PM, Esimorp E wrote: > Dear all, > > I tried installing GridFTP on Freebsd, had errors which a user group said is due to bsd tar and I downloaded and installed Gnu tar which is required but the command 'tar --version' still show bsd tar as the default. Tried using package and encountered error as shown below. > > [prom@pcbsd-2112] ~> tar --version > bsdtar 2.7.0 - libarchive 2.7.0 > [prom@pcbsd-2112] ~> su > Password: > [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# pkg_add -r tar > Error: Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/Latest/tar.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/Latest/tar.tbz' by URL > > I would be grateful if anyone could help me out on how to overwrite bsd tar with Gnu tar. > Keep in mind that when you install a package or port, it installs to /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin , not /usr/bin or /bin # ls -la /usr/bin/tar lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Feb 21 2011 /usr/bin/tar -> bsdtar -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 62848 Feb 21 2011 /usr/bin/bsdtar # ls -la /usr/local/bin/gtar -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 373664 Sep 23 14:10 /usr/local/bin/gtar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 13:17:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49E0106566B for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700E18FC1A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R75ch-0007Lg-Hl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:16:59 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R75ch-0001ed-Cx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:16:59 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8NDGxsD003009 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:16:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p8NDGxVw003008 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:16:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:16:59 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110923131658.GA2979@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: sendmail : savemail panic : cannot save rejected email anywhere X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:17:00 -0000 I have 6 servers. As far as I can see I've identical sendmail configuration on all of them. However, one server gives me these errors: Sep 23 13:53:12 mech-aslap239 sm-msp-queue[33721]: starting daemon (8.14.5): queueing@00:30:00 Sep 23 13:53:12 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33723]: starting daemon (8.14.5): SMTP+queueing@00:30:00 Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sendmail[33772]: p8NCuc1q033772: from=root, size=41, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201109231256.p8NCuc1q033772@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk>, relay=root@localhost Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33773]: p8NCucYT033773: from=, size=400, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201109231256.p8NCuc1q033772@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=Daemon0, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sendmail[33772]: p8NCuc1q033772: to=mexas@bris.ac.uk, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30041, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (p8NCucYT033773 Message accepted for delivery) Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: STARTTLS=client, relay=smtp-auth.bris.ac.uk., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=AES256-SHA, bits=256/256 Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: p8NCucYT033773: to=, ctladdr= (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30400, relay=smtp-auth.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.10.92], dsn=5.1.1, stat=User unknown Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: p8NCucYT033773: p8NCucYT033775: DSN: User unknown Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: p8NCucYT033775: to=mexas@bris.ac.uk, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=31424, relay=smtp-auth.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.10.92], dsn=5.1.1, stat=User unknown Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: p8NCucYT033775: p8NCucYU033775: return to sender: User unknown Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: p8NCucYU033775: to=mexas@bris.ac.uk, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=32448, relay=smtp-auth.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.10.92], dsn=5.1.1, stat=User unknown Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: p8NCucYT033775: Losing ./qfp8NCucYT033775: savemail panic Sep 23 13:56:38 mech-aslap239 sm-mta[33775]: p8NCucYT033775: SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere so that I cannot send any mail from it. I've read this: http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/savemail_panic_in_Sendmail.html but it doesn't seem to apply. I get: mech-aslap239# sendmail -bv postmaster mexas@bris.ac.uk... deliverable: mailer relay, host smtp-auth.bris.ac.uk, user mexas@bris.ac.uk mech-aslap239# sendmail -bv MAILER-DAEMON mexas@bris.ac.uk... deliverable: mailer relay, host smtp-auth.bris.ac.uk, user mexas@bris.ac.uk mech-aslap239# yet the mail is not being delivered: mech-aslap239# mailq -qL /var/spool/mqueue (4 requests) -----Q-ID----- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- ------------Sender/Recipient----------- p8NCucYT033775? 2139 Fri Sep 23 13:56 MAILER-DAEMON mexas@bris.ac.uk p8NCeJwI018745? 2140 Fri Sep 23 13:40 MAILER-DAEMON mexas@bris.ac.uk p8NC7JxU017395? 2279 Fri Sep 23 13:07 MAILER-DAEMON mexas@bris.ac.uk o9KFDfaV001093? 2224 Wed Oct 20 16:13 MAILER-DAEMON mexas@bris.ac.uk Total requests: 4 mech-aslap239# What else could be wrong? Many thanks Anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 13:23:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B74F1065679; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33A28FC08; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:23:55 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=g2CjeT3ApLK2NZOFiGzJiKUXyp6HdiF2oeExcYdl86k=; b=gSq6w4XCNZ2BEaoHOTpuAnjNVEzMWeRi23gqO6wynY4V1/4yhPRjGbUk9zxABdmlsce9WiQFK6bI835hVEl0/H132UzRM+AeWhOdpvIxpI/Qp5I8d0HMqgvPUIiZfeggNRHTFWlRa/F2Nn9QFE6nr0dythM2TYPSp5OszD3qmkg= Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([76.240.47.196]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 06:23:51 -0700 Message-ID: <4E7C885F.10100@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:23:43 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nathan Whitehorn References: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> <4E7C4188.2050508@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4E7C4188.2050508@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Sep 2011 13:23:51.0241 (UTC) FILETIME=[08BBD390:01CC79F4] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:23:56 -0000 Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > On 09/23/11 04:09, Fbsd8 wrote: >> I have installed 9.0 bata2 from cd and the net. In both cases after the >> completion of the install and rebooting, the bsdinstall scripts still >> remain on the new installed system. If I interpret the code logic >> correctly, bsdinstall can ONLY be used for an original install. It's not >> intended by design to be used any other time, unlike sysinstall. I think >> the "auto" script should have code added to remove all traces of the >> bsdinstall environment at the conclusion of the install. This way >> bsdinstall fulfills the original design goals and guarantees no one can >> exec it by accident and kill there running system. > > It's quite useful after install time for installing new systems (e.g. > jails). It also uses approximately zero disk space. > -Nathan > > bsdinstall/auto logic falls down through the partition hard drive logic with no way to bypass it. It will look for free space on the H.D. you booted from and issue message about no free space, ask you if you want to try another drive and then use the booted drive as target to redo the partitioning again thus scratching your running system. In the normal sense there is no way bsdinstall can be used to create jails. A jail does not occupies a whole H.D nor do you boot a jail as a standalone host. The qjail port is there for the purpose of creating and administration of jails. Its not a question of how much space bsdinstall occupies on the H.D. after the original install. Its that some poor soul may try to use it and trash there newly installed running system by accident. And if there were multiple os's on that H.D. there all gone in a heart beat. We have to protect the poor user from them selfs doing stupid things. As I understand it bsdinstall is a replacement for sysinstall. Sysinstall tried to be everything to everybody and turned into a can of worms. There is nothing wrong about limiting bsdinstall to a roll of "original installs" only. KISS These 2 statements should be added at the end of bsdinstall/auto to complete the clean up of the install process. rm /usr/sbin/bsdinstall rm -rf /usr/libexec/bsdinstall Another benefit of doing this is it will no longer be necessary to create man pages for bsdinstall. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 13:33:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F36106566C; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:33:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54818FC16; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:33:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=UnyuxQwU7n9lH5SxTW48ZUYU2IWmJRlX9rnFYZdPKeo=; b=f/Ayy4NoRJFaLXYjo7s/RAjuTOehoTG9zCr5rCB5VBfRCfcJEiZtZSMvPJdxz1E0B/g4Bat8XKwS7NzG9GIbgIkAvtWxQDylR+Q35EQRsaS/Jpqm2m/BtQUN79B9I1h56fpLAgCUyG7fuRvQ/TTslWLVHV174hiGeYWNqqpkdm8= Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([76.240.47.196]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 06:33:56 -0700 Message-ID: <4E7C8AC2.6020704@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:33:54 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel O'Connor References: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> <94B70CFD-D1EA-4C64-8384-BBE00185280D@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: <94B70CFD-D1EA-4C64-8384-BBE00185280D@gsoft.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Sep 2011 13:33:56.0862 (UTC) FILETIME=[71B641E0:01CC79F5] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:33:56 -0000 Daniel O'Connor wrote: > On 23/09/2011, at 11:39, Fbsd8 wrote: >> I have installed 9.0 bata2 from cd and the net. >>In both cases after the completion of the install and rebooting, the bsdinstall >>scripts still remain on the new installed system. If I interpret the code logic correctly, >>bsdinstall can ONLY be used for an original install. It's not intended by design to be >>used any other time, unlike sysinstall. I think the "auto" script should have code added >>to remove all traces of the bsdinstall environment at the conclusion of the install. >>This way bsdinstall fulfills the original design goals and guarantees no one can exec >>it by accident and kill there running system. > > > The binary is installed by default, but there it isn't run at startup. > > If it is being run then I would expect you are booting off your install media again by accident. > > -- > Daniel O'Connor > You did not read my post correctly. I dont say bsdinstall is run every time I boot. I said "the bsdinstall scripts still remain on the new installed system." The point I was making is it should not remain. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 13:40:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0331065670; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:40:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2618FC08; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:40:57 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=g7mSSH0DKvkc9US00lbuNIz9UwUNp3P2gK8ZHUGupo8=; b=h4edN+qz6vLhzqkXEY7D4VCdCTUJTcjkuP90Y3eXGgeaqCUW30SUEGyMJnwS44uihnrF/YtuSwsvChRfYmFpKwqsstIIG+fPrFNNZjsaE5C9lZ+ULmTFbbam6XXKJNjIeoMOvDUVQRRNtj5TrMZ1yAod3k6fVIBTAnFePMyBAHs= Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([76.240.47.196]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 06:40:57 -0700 Message-ID: <4E7C8C67.2090709@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:40:55 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Chadd References: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Sep 2011 13:40:57.0649 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C854210:01CC79F6] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:40:57 -0000 Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 23 September 2011 10:09, Fbsd8 wrote: >> I have installed 9.0 bata2 from cd and the net. In both cases after the >> completion of the install and rebooting, the bsdinstall scripts still remain >> on the new installed system. If I interpret the code logic correctly, >> bsdinstall can ONLY be used for an original install. It's not intended by >> design to be used any other time, unlike sysinstall. I think the "auto" >> script should have code added to remove all traces of the bsdinstall >> environment at the conclusion of the install. This way bsdinstall fulfills >> the original design goals and guarantees no one can exec it by accident and >> kill there running system. > > Have you thought about filing PRs for your installer suggestions, just > so they don't get lost? > > I've just filed a bsdinstaller PR for a wifi config bug; I'm likely > going to file a few more PRs based on my interaction with the > installer. > > Thanks, > > > Adrian > > Yes I have been submitting PR's. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 13:55:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D235106566C; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3AE48FC15; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ur.dons.net.au (ppp118-210-8-217.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net [118.210.8.217]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8NDtasK068117 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:25:43 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: "Daniel O'Connor" In-Reply-To: <4E7C8AC2.6020704@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:25:36 +0930 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3A411FD7-7C07-4536-9EDD-8F5D8F716027@gsoft.com.au> References: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> <94B70CFD-D1EA-4C64-8384-BBE00185280D@gsoft.com.au> <4E7C8AC2.6020704@a1poweruser.com> To: Fbsd8 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) X-Spam-Score: 2.162 (**) BAYES_00,KHOP_DYNAMIC,RDNS_DYNAMIC X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:55:53 -0000 On 23/09/2011, at 23:03, Fbsd8 wrote: >> The binary is installed by default, but there it isn't run at = startup. >> If it is being run then I would expect you are booting off your = install media again by accident. >> -- >> Daniel O'Connor=20 >=20 > You did not read my post correctly. I dont say bsdinstall is run every = time I boot. I said "the bsdinstall scripts still remain on the new = installed system." The point I was making is it should not remain. I think that is pretty debatable, you could certainly use them to = install onto a new disk - say you had a machine you couldn't boot the = install media off so you put the disk in your PC. Also, it should be very difficult to destroy your installed setup while = you're actually booted into it because GEOM will prevent partition = changes to mounted disks. -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 13:58:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACE31065670 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349F08FC19 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-64-49.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.64.49]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p8NDwoFF094120; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:58:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4E7C9099.3060906@bananmonarki.se> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:58:49 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110821 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Damien Fleuriot References: <1316777112.68517.YahooMailClassic@web111802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4E7C75D3.5080206@bananmonarki.se> <4E7C7695.7020602@my.gd> In-Reply-To: <4E7C7695.7020602@my.gd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Overwrite bsd tar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:58:55 -0000 2011-09-23 14:07, Damien Fleuriot skrev: > On 9/23/11 2:04 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> 2011-09-23 13:25, Esimorp E skrev: >>> >>> I would be grateful if anyone could help me out on how to overwrite >>> bsd tar with Gnu tar. >> >> Thats not a good idea. If you want to use gnu tar then gtar is the >> command for you. Or copy tar to tar.bsd and make a symlink tar> gtar. > > > Even worse, what's going to happen when some BSD specific software tries > to pass BSD specific options to gnutar ? A lot of unexpected things, that's the reason I wrote it wasn't a good idea. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 14:08:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B992C106566B for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:08:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C95D8FC0C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadk27 with SMTP id k27so6278021iad.13 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 07:08:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.8.203 with SMTP id i11mr5708152ibi.88.1316786891918; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 07:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.33.10 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 07:08:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:08:11 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LZl9J7mS0wwWqPqujHMvP1QWqT4 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Support for "Brother" products X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:08:13 -0000 On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Carmel wrote: > I just got a reply back from a representative from Brother [...] > Therefore, if anyone is interested in contacting him, this is the > e-mail address: > Someone had brought up issues about Brother devices, I believe it was Jerry= . > -- > Carmel =E2=9C=8C > carmel_ny@hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 16:01:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789B1106566C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBEA8FC08 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.magehandbook.com (mail.darkmindweb.com [192.168.1.100]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0EA3A8D for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:01:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 152.121.16.253 (SquirrelMail authenticated user daniel) by www.magehandbook.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:01:36 -0400 Message-ID: <787be598ce39be54d3cb551e1336f380.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <4E7C885F.10100@a1poweruser.com> References: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> <4E7C4188.2050508@freebsd.org> <4E7C885F.10100@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:01:36 -0400 From: "Daniel Staal" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:01:38 -0000 On Fri, September 23, 2011 9:23 am, Fbsd8 wrote: > These 2 statements should be added at the end of bsdinstall/auto to > complete the clean up of the install process. > > rm /usr/sbin/bsdinstall > rm -rf /usr/libexec/bsdinstall > > Another benefit of doing this is it will no longer be necessary to > create man pages for bsdinstall. On the other hand, that makes it harder for someone to look at the program to see what it does, in order to build or rebuild their own installer, or to customize the actions of this one. I don't see a cost to keeping the program around. There are probably some slight use cases for it, and there are some slight costs to removing it. It doesn't have to be everything to everybody: It can be itself, nothing more and nothing less. I guess I just don't see the problem with keeping it. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 16:59:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA61106564A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:59:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unobe@cpan.org) Received: from hapkido.dreamhost.com (hapkido.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3718FC12 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a81.g.dreamhost.com (caibbdcaaaaf.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.5]) by hapkido.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E9717B9E6 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a81.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a81.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CC7A806C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.7] (71-214-160-137.tcso.qwest.net [71.214.160.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: unobe@rurs.us) by homiemail-a81.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 15BBFA806A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E7CB1D5.408@cpan.org> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:20:37 -0700 From: David Romano User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110202 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> <4E7C4188.2050508@freebsd.org> <4E7C885F.10100@a1poweruser.com> <787be598ce39be54d3cb551e1336f380.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <787be598ce39be54d3cb551e1336f380.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 9.0 bsdinstall usage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:59:57 -0000 On 09/23/2011 09:01, Daniel Staal wrote: > On the other hand, that makes it harder for someone to look at the program > to see what it does, in order to build or rebuild their own installer, or > to customize the actions of this one. > > I don't see a cost to keeping the program around. There are probably some > slight use cases for it, and there are some slight costs to removing it. > It doesn't have to be everything to everybody: It can be itself, nothing > more and nothing less. > > I guess I just don't see the problem with keeping it. I agree. If we're concerned about someone running the program again by accident then the following can be placed at the end of bsdinstall/auto: chmod -x /usr/sbin/bsdinstall The man page then can specify that the executable bit is off by default, why it is off by default, and possibly specify the command to turn it on again. - David -- David Romano .:. unobe@cpan.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 17:25:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842021065676 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eesimorp@yahoo.com) Received: from nm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BCD18FC15 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2011 17:12:03 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.232] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2011 17:12:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1032.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2011 17:12:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 553770.78053.bm@omp1032.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 42673 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Sep 2011 17:12:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1316797922; bh=9Cr/1sU9qf7oWNQmSrvTNRbI/Q8GJlizzRSpH3IYzRo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UCLmhY66yIaBs4oYDyPkFaXM+jSzt1xxMn1XP7M86mevRH1EMLk/rJT75cX8h7kCFwnZLPpUlOSO55JHsH42VPc02vgAVMFTUTRFWpIGgKRHr931E2oij1j9vGnUwaYdk1/wDqQhAmjhBNq1rZ2vA5CsPFX/M1Rwmg7PsM1uFOk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4LAL9IZoYThnoQDhf+JR/9qhAy16sJiauz1Z492loAunuB7K+XSfJfbFRhKn0cbEs8eZTGZ82z2nsew3y4tgiK0fUMCbl3gW2BbzPT3SCjH6EsZtLKSb1Uc9l09QP8M2jGIvcYY3YdvDZkInCYiDnw5fCSNFvcqdKF6g5rI1GoY=; X-YMail-OSG: fsv7oU8VM1msOE26UmzOCA7PmhRv1BfNVosFCRufG0p6qGo EDRz1qgAh.K25En2FChgHyvnl.c6NZO3T1jxwrZwof842V8DT5xLBeGdhv9e tdpNnsG4fU8nr26fDDxxFnMnX7BI5w769iB8uah_HCvyfahcKA5vj0UpmTk_ s..mafMjG.kKX8NHInoR8KrE4J7OOl4NU1VJi4U01nO48ENX7UK7yzFNF.AX 2hpYxeKEl7hELlXvbSlTR5BMlt6pQlHGR0PyhfsBTC0rfEuPlCRE2jeheuCJ IzYMBrT1c6qJj8jSUuwJGP2PltaHbjLs20jgQ4fYl4E8jkrApLrDV_P3BHv2 VNSwoFW3M_yQCvKsO_weGfZkhUxpAIWNJOIIoGQY- Received: from [219.93.13.235] by web111813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:12:02 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 Message-ID: <1316797922.21261.YahooMailClassic@web111813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:12:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Esimorp E To: Damien Fleuriot , Bernt Hansson In-Reply-To: <4E7C9099.3060906@bananmonarki.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Overwrite bsd tar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:25:30 -0000 Hi Bernt, Thank you for your reply. I had similar concern as well but I really needed= the globus toolkit and wouldn't mind if its the only that works on the sys= tem. --- On Fri, 9/23/11, Bernt Hansson wrote: From: Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Overwrite bsd tar To: "Damien Fleuriot" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, September 23, 2011, 1:58 PM 2011-09-23 14:07, Damien Fleuriot skrev: > On 9/23/11 2:04 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> 2011-09-23 13:25, Esimorp E skrev: >>> >>> I would be grateful if anyone could help me out on how to overwrite >>> bsd tar with Gnu tar. >> >> Thats not a good idea. If you want to use gnu tar then gtar is the >> command for you. Or copy tar to tar.bsd and make a symlink tar>=A0 gtar. > > > Even worse, what's going to happen when some BSD specific software tries > to pass BSD specific options to gnutar ? A lot of unexpected things, that's the reason I wrote it wasn't a good idea= . _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 17:31:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E8A106564A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:31:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4968FC15 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyg7 with SMTP id 7so3159406eyg.13 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:31:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=eZGG/NBqKSGNDT6CxGSvGZP/zE7cNpWMnbaCl3SZW60=; b=aGkVpntYT1oPM2aOjvbHFTV/jznkkzS8M5C+vgL0Mc8MEeWVERrgm/OyHz10VWL6vG kAnseD40t3JNHmmuFzYCzhnyVlBt7bu2T7/vq/vwwuc0JTf6D6c0k8y6IxaznAS5Hfxp NkA+y4fad4D9kq56Rb5WXdUmaK6hAOQ4l4p/M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.37.215 with SMTP id y23mr5332267fad.12.1316799115900; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.112.137 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:31:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1316797922.21261.YahooMailClassic@web111813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <4E7C9099.3060906@bananmonarki.se> <1316797922.21261.YahooMailClassic@web111813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:31:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Esimorp E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Damien Fleuriot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Overwrite bsd tar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:31:57 -0000 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Esimorp E wrote: > Hi Bernt, > > Thank you for your reply. I had similar concern as well but I really needed > the globus toolkit and wouldn't mind if its the only that works on the > system. > > Please don't top post. See the mailing list expectations. As for your problem, perhaps you should learn the ports system to see how other packages with this dependency are dealt with instead of trying to do a a very poor hack that will result in further problems. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 17:34:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA79106564A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eesimorp@yahoo.com) Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 335B78FC0C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.65] by nm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2011 17:34:37 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.15] by tm5.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2011 17:33:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2011 17:33:37 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 746175.40519.bm@omp1015.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 354 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Sep 2011 17:33:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1316799217; bh=ffDAp197UzBRYhyUUjxWpAK3OPSn13o+KfcoEpTaBSA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s4rHgSQebDbk4yudVKjYSnU8oa7cKWKW4WEqcU6p2ixbYLIgmTtyWLnwu8agHZOXRrJEqCxRaBfp2svmMcrwhtPBo1xfqzPbycTgrGd9JdB4hFI4TxlMYsx7ExfyugCZqMyVrb6qDetce4X+S7B7Mg+q86kS2VBzxlwCpSnLawQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HiyGC0u74RuKsIArFi+dMVskHEdAiz9GgR9WaVxe9JW5MVQ+AnrHnC+Aaj4wiZwVfHCntX0Ve3NWiGvxHELEjEp2f2bXOocYgBwVI+cLRh4L6KzpN/DkzcNh1i96TB/mPNydERUIIefCVv/ibNH5Q1myrVi1iJWZMPr6aYE6f7c=; X-YMail-OSG: IKrkzg0VM1kXnG1L0Te1W8YulI6H9UvBMVZL1_PlrofFZB6 cRdG8OJ42tz808xsB5uCSI8WcUvqfDdU19cqE2FHK63uMjUTQRALDfGlz1nY DOpuoAdwLy_hy.Xap3kJwaBoj8T79AfFwF.SLqBUhRrXygtDdJQlcR0qF0IE OqI.8eEFbl5Usl5bvn7ytBIGDMpFYutXahyOsLKLZA7K7y9oxUf5i_6DvO1W SS1H_NG8Nzd3N8zM_RnXMn3xeuTa9eUq79YMY5MbvDlOZ_mW00z8zBY.wzgx obrtFHRwjWLi6XRXhmyWeEOmzdn6cRKCbjyngsKqxKgTgevhfe4CA8UATd9Q 6aPWSnZI1rKMJc_4x5Q36i1f6esvcNftOKYPXwhw7VsgiYt.kVOni8uFleIF 9kJpjdEJQd2ZlR1I- Received: from [219.93.13.235] by web111820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:33:36 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/14.0.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 Message-ID: <1316799216.98239.YahooMailClassic@web111820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:33:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Esimorp E To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Damien Fleuriot In-Reply-To: <4E7C7789.3060504@my.gd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Overwrite bsd tar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:34:38 -0000 Hi, Damien, Thank you for your timely response. I tried your instruction but encountere= d an error which I think is due the initial errors I had as a result gtar t= hat couldn't install as either source or package. [prom@pcbsd-2112] ~> su Password: [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# ls -la /usr/bin/tar lrwxr-xr-x=A0 1 root=A0 wheel=A0 6 Jul 18=A0 2010 /usr/bin/tar -> bsdtar [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# ls -la /usr/local/bin/gtar ls: /usr/local/bin/gtar: No such file or directory [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom#=20 Please, what would the best way to resolve this problem? --- On Fri, 9/23/11, Damien Fleuriot wrote: From: Damien Fleuriot Subject: Re: Overwrite bsd tar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Friday, September 23, 2011, 12:11 PM On 9/23/11 1:25 PM, Esimorp E wrote: > Dear all, >=20 > I tried installing GridFTP on Freebsd, had errors which a user group said= is due to bsd tar and I downloaded and installed Gnu tar which is required= but the command 'tar --version' still show bsd tar as the default. Tried u= sing package and encountered error as shown below. >=20 > [prom@pcbsd-2112] ~> tar --version > bsdtar 2.7.0 - libarchive 2.7.0 > [prom@pcbsd-2112] ~> su > Password: > [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# pkg_add -r tar > Error: Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/package= s-8.1-release/Latest/tar.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no ac= cess) > pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/pa= ckages-8.1-release/Latest/tar.tbz' by URL >=20 > I would be grateful if anyone could help me out on how to overwrite bsd t= ar with Gnu tar. >=20 Keep in mind that when you install a package or port, it installs to /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin , not /usr/bin or /bin # ls -la /usr/bin/tar lrwxr-xr-x=A0 1 root=A0 wheel=A0 6 Feb 21=A0 2011 /usr/bin/tar -> bsdtar -r-xr-xr-x=A0 1 root=A0 wheel=A0 62848 Feb 21=A0 2011 /usr/bin/bsdtar # ls -la /usr/local/bin/gtar -r-xr-xr-x=A0 1 root=A0 wheel=A0 373664 Sep 23 14:10 /usr/local/bin/gtar _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 17:54:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C4E106564A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE2D8FC0C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8NHsRF9040048 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:54:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8NHsR6T086661 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:54:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p8NHsRhZ086510; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:54:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:54:27 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Esimorp E Message-ID: <20110923175427.GL9801@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4E7C9099.3060906@bananmonarki.se> <1316797922.21261.YahooMailClassic@web111813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1316797922.21261.YahooMailClassic@web111813.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:54:28 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: Damien Fleuriot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Overwrite bsd tar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:54:30 -0000 In the last episode (Sep 23), Esimorp E said: > Hi Bernt, > > Thank you for your reply. I had similar concern as well but I really > needed the globus toolkit and wouldn't mind if its the only that works on > the system. You never actaully said what the problem was. If it's a bug in bsdtar, I'm sure it could get fixed quickly given a sample tarfile. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 17:56:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B0C106564A; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:56:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ixe-mta-27.emailfiltering.com (ixe-mta-27-tx.emailfiltering.com [194.116.199.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FAF68FC15; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw13.york.ac.uk ([144.32.129.163]) by ixe-mta-27.emailfiltering.com with emfmta (version 4.8.3.54) by TLS id 1295923726 for fbsd8@a1poweruser.com; 2acd4eeea3fc1981; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:45:06 +0100 Received: from buffy-128.york.ac.uk ([144.32.128.160]:28072 helo=buffy.york.ac.uk) by mail-gw13.york.ac.uk with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R79o9-0007MP-LV; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:45:05 +0100 Received: from buffy.york.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8NHj5Iw060496; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:45:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ga9@localhost) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p8NHj4G3060495; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:45:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: buffy.york.ac.uk: ga9 set sender to gavin@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Gavin Atkinson To: Fbsd8 In-Reply-To: <4E74C9B7.2090901@a1poweruser.com> References: <4E71F647.2050007@a1poweruser.com> <4E7453CB.1040908@freebsd.org> <4E74C9B7.2090901@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:45:04 +0100 Message-ID: <1316799904.39972.12.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Nathan Whitehorn , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 9.0 bata2 & keymap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:56:13 -0000 On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 12:24 -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: > Changing the cancel button in the kbdmap command to skip, does not=20 > address the problem, which is the lack of knowledge of the standard=20 > bsdinstall user. I've been using Freebsd since 4.0 and never used the=20 > kbdmap command or for that matter even knew it existed. Interesting. Sysinstall has asked for country information and then asked you to choose a keymap (using kbdmap) if you selected a non-default country as the first two questions (i.e. before you get the sysinstall menu) since 6.1. Would that be a good solution still? Some of the other points brought up later about wanting to switch between two different keymaps seem sensible too, though I don't initially see how that would be possible. Gavin --=20 Gavin Atkinson FreeBSD committer and bugmeister GPG: A093262B (313A A79F 697D 3A5C 216A EDF5 935D EF44 A093 262B) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 18:04:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A0C1065673 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4E18FC0C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5A7C2E808D1; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:04:37 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Matt Emmerton Message-ID: <20110923180437.GB31222@thought.org> References: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4B62F4A4-4B49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com> <20110923013119.GA8424@thought.org> <000b01cc799b$3abfec90$b03fc5b0$@on.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000b01cc799b$3abfec90$b03fc5b0$@on.ca> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... [ now trending #OT ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:04:38 -0000 On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:48:09PM -0400, Matt Emmerton wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:48:09 -0400 > From: Matt Emmerton > Subject: RE: much to my surprise.... [ now trending #OT ] > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 > > >> >> *Finally*, i saw that my telco router was displaying "INT" in red > >> >> LED's. i didn't know they displayed in any other color but the > >> >> default green, but after power-cycling, voila! back to green. > >> >> and now, yes, i can ping freebsd.org. and i'm pretty sure other > >> >> network things will work too. > > The Mark I eyeball is an amazing tool. well, cant be sure, but my router is q1000. [?] > > I recently had a HDSL link provided by my telco go down. I happened to be 2 > hours away from the facility at the time. Tech support said the problem was > the router because they couldn't get to it, and they just wouldn't believe > me that it was up. (I could ping it from the "inside" via the secondary > network connection.) So after I drove to the facility, I noticed that the > HDSL modem (which is line-powered from some box on the street) had no > lights. Ahah! 28 hours later (sigh) they found a blown circuit breaker > somewhere. AH! one thin i have has problems with over the years is cars hitting power poles somewhere and that knocks me off. After last time i put everything thru my highend surge protecter. EVERYTHING was live. i had never [not once in ten years] had the "Internet" flow go south. mine has been green. i saw that all LED's were lit and never thought to see if the lights were all-green or not! live and learn. so, along with "check routers/switches; maybe power cycle" i have use named debug, use traceroute. > > > > > but i've been doing this for a while, and > > until i was away for five days, everything had been going > > fine for over a month. oh:: one power-out. the UPS saved > > the server, but everything else needed to be reinitialized. > > A lesson that I learned many years ago - if you can afford a "big" UPS for > your servers, you can afford a "little" one for your telco/network > equipment. such as? brand, model? would it work to just plug my surge protecto into my larger UPS? ---yes, that wouldn't save me from as glitch in this telco router. but since the APC UPC has its own surge filter, i'm thinking, why not/? gary > > -- > Matt Emmerton > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 18:15:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE56106566C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFB68FC15 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so4791686bkb.13 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:15:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.0.74 with SMTP id 10mr1755077bka.140.1316801712028; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.148.66 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:15:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.219] In-Reply-To: <4E71F647.2050007@a1poweruser.com> References: <4E71F647.2050007@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:15:11 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: 9.0 bata2 & keymap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:15:13 -0000 I don't think not asking the question is the right answer. Asking about the keyboard layout during installation is the right thing to do; working with the wrong one is difficult and not everyone has a standard US keyboard. I think the problem is that the keymap names are kind of obscure, making it hard for users who aren't already familiar with FreeBSD internals to know which one to pick. Many Linux installers ask for a keymap during installation, but they give fairly clear names for the keymaps like "US English 105-key", making it easy to pick one that's likely to work. When I installed FreeBSD-9.0-BETA it took me two tries to find a layout that works because it's far from clear what will yield "normal" behavior. I tried the "United States of America Traditional UNIX Workstation" one first (traditional! It must be standard, right?) and found I had no working Ctrl key. Eventually I landed on "United States of America ISO-8859-1", which worked, but I'm not sure it's reasonable to expect a new user to know what "ISO-8859-1" is and whether they have it. Surely we can name these layouts a bit more clearly? I think that would solve most of the problem. I would offer a patch but I'm the wrong person to do it, since they make no sense to me. ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 18:19:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED740106566B for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889B38FC08 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so4795966bkb.13 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.152.143 with SMTP id g15mr2720644bkw.296.1316801970380; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.148.66 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.219] In-Reply-To: <4E7C31D6.1040404@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4B62F4A4-4B49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com> <20110923000837.GD7704@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E7C31D6.1040404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:19:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:19:32 -0000 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Not my experience. =A0Running my own DNS is simple and trouble free, plus > it gives me much more scope to play with things like DNSSEC. I've done it before, but I don't anymore. Partly because it's very hard to provide proper levels of DNS redundancy if you're running your own DNS server. Not that the big players always get it right; I've seen ones that had four authoritative servers that were all on the same subnet. ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 18:26:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456A6106564A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC518FC0C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B9D33E808D1; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:26:14 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Dave Message-ID: <20110923182614.GC31222@thought.org> References: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20110923013119.GA8424@thought.org> <000b01cc799b$3abfec90$b03fc5b0$@on.ca> <4E7C6D3D.1196.2C8EDE72@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E7C6D3D.1196.2C8EDE72@dave.g8kbv.demon.co.uk> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... [ now trending #OT ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:26:15 -0000 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:27:57PM +0100, Dave wrote: > Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:27:57 +0100 > From: Dave > Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... [ now trending #OT ] > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.61) > > From: "Matt Emmerton" > > > > > > > > but i've been doing this for a while, and > > > until i was away for five days, everything had been going > > > fine for over a month. oh:: one power-out. the UPS saved > > > the server, but everything else needed to be reinitialized. > > > > A lesson that I learned many years ago - if you can afford a "big" UPS > > for your servers, you can afford a "little" one for your telco/network > > equipment. > > > > I'm using some PoE kit to power the router remotely down it's LAN cable, > that in turn run's from the protected supply from the UPS. Said UPS also > powers the main network switch, as well as my own LAN server (f'BSD > based, to stay vaguely on toppic!) Plus two other PC's and a NAS device. > > It'll hold that lot up, for over 20 minutes when the lights go out (the > longest unscheduled outage so far.) It's also configured to NOT come > back, if it runs down and cuts out. I'll do that manually if needed. > (Not so far.) I never did get the BSD port of APCUPSD to work correctly. > > All works well. Also, easy to do a router "Hard" restart, without going > to the router itself. And if it does all die, it fails safe. > > Regards. > > Dave B. see, if i had help at =your= level of expertise, i'd be fine. 4 days in the icu is still ,messing me up a bit, but i grok most of what you're saying to matt. Oh, and for those who suggested i hire somebody instead of relying on volunteers:: while there is a seattle linux group, gslug, i know 0.0 people who have a clue about BSD. i've asked around--the senior techs at the telco have no clue when i [or someone who can speak] mentioned 'unix'. i've tried to find some students at the u/washington. zip. linux, a few people mumble, 'yes, ive heard of that.' but unix, or berkeley unix , or sun unix. {gawk: Orifice unix, rather} Zero. BTW, ive not had time nor savvy to get the APC UPS Port installed. besides, right now, there in only one 2009 dell 2-cpu on the battery. it has saved state twice. but i =still= had to get down and crawl around with flashlight in teeth and power off stuff. -no, no 'poor gary'; that's just the bare facts. -g > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 18:42:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5ECD106566C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenox.joseph@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CC38FC12 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywp17 with SMTP id 17so3690954ywp.13 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:42:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KFcTcCXCUb3ZsuioifxmZs08PcavU9vmanxVLALiJyQ=; b=EC0QpE/UriNRDOIwFH4kuKvP+fSunDCil2H7XEhc4ttC4gQO8mzJ30ujHpmM+La0UX nzTrO4eB0z2V5n+KqKboQ6cKTeEATPS3/3G1NiilHxfiUqba6n2hhUZRz/RqN2Gea9Us H7dH3I5i3/SgVzPMcwYWAqfBYJPS2wKaZowvo= Received: by 10.236.78.200 with SMTP id g48mr24419597yhe.12.1316801451650; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [131.230.191.154] (lenneth.engr.siu.edu. [131.230.191.154]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c62sm17357683yhj.25.2011.09.23.11.10.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Lord Of Hyphens Message-ID: <4E7CCB91.4050206@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:10:25 -0500 From: Joseph Lenox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110916 Thunderbird/7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4e79f205.0c74970a.09a6.ffffadbaSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <4e79f205.0c74970a.09a6.ffffadbaSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Pci express ZFS card? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:42:02 -0000 On 09/21/2011 09:16 AM, Eduardo Morras wrote: > > Hi, i have this used pci express industrial card (PCIe 2.0 x4) with 1GB: > > http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=00001000010000000001&cid=08141333914287007902&id=0A263601401161285688 > > > I want to install a NanoBSD with ZFS and 3 Sata disks. Unfortunately i > know nothing about this topic. Does anynone know if this type of cards > can be connected to a server? Can i access the zfs raidz on it > througth the pci express interface? > > The card documentation says nothing about its use on normal pc as > expansion card, only on pci express backplanes. > > TIA I would posit that it is only for use as on a PCI Express backplane; I don't even see how it would fit in a standard PCI Express slot (seeing as the backplane connector is physically longer than the PCI Express connector). Moreover, the card itself looks like a system-on-a-board (a complete computer system on a single mainboard). --Joseph Lenox From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 18:48:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2753C106564A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C168FC15 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 877E5E808D1; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:48:05 -0700 From: 'Gary Kline' To: Hasse Hansson Message-ID: <20110923184805.GD31222@thought.org> References: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4B62F4A4-4B49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com> <20110923013119.GA8424@thought.org> <001301cc79d5$2d9b7720$88d26560$@org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001301cc79d5$2d9b7720$88d26560$@org> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: 'Ryan Coleman' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, 'Robert Bonomi' Subject: Re: SV: much to my surprise.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:48:06 -0000 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:42:53AM +0200, Hasse Hansson wrote: > > Hello. > "Outsourcing" primary DNS services saves a lot of hassle. > I've been using http://freedns.afraid.org/ for a couple of years with great > satisfaction. > Please check'em out before decide. > i've used afraid.org as a secondary for about a year. i've be happy to just let somebody who deals with the DNS side of things handle mine as well. that wont keep my "modem" from flipping state, but it would be several less migraines. tack, gary > > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 19:57:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10B71065705 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:57:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward8.mail.yandex.net (forward8.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:202::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB518FC16 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp9.mail.yandex.net (smtp9.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.35]) by forward8.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id C28DFF621D1 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:57:36 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1316807856; bh=yDFkYnmdTazcqbIz9/8ce6ytyIPar1igiLj3Rhvfk8o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=h1/3QeqXT1YrWo2ZLTSsBIwFaZT5whVdHlnyMUTCUM6gjyoPhis73aa01qKobq2EP kKAuXYr6Ihy4pRCQBhx3DhO7HntJoqcw2dw2rvNqvCQO9juiT2lsq3vvLGi46m//qS dHATPNN26fy/ofDF5FDcoYfih4n6hkllljTXRbeE= Received: from smtp9.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp9.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A228B152033D for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:57:36 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1316807856; bh=yDFkYnmdTazcqbIz9/8ce6ytyIPar1igiLj3Rhvfk8o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=h1/3QeqXT1YrWo2ZLTSsBIwFaZT5whVdHlnyMUTCUM6gjyoPhis73aa01qKobq2EP kKAuXYr6Ihy4pRCQBhx3DhO7HntJoqcw2dw2rvNqvCQO9juiT2lsq3vvLGi46m//qS dHATPNN26fy/ofDF5FDcoYfih4n6hkllljTXRbeE= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.4]) by smtp9.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id vZumppNX-vZuafC14; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:57:35 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Nat-Received: from [192.168.24.9]:1192 [ident-empty] by SPAM FILTER: with TPROXY id 1316814748.97359 abuse-to kes-kes@yandex.ru Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:57:34 +0300 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <649599723.20110923225734@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: where is ng_eapol project? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:57:39 -0000 Hi. Does any know is anywhere ng_eapol project or any clone of it? -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 20:06:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46060106566B for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58D88FC0A for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p8NK6oob068427 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:06:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p8NK6oob068427 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1316808410; bh=V12tBpXzdE3IJKqZEGy23lf11WH8kFyTeN75/juZKFQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E7CE6D9.7040004@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20F ri,=2023=20Sep=202011=2021:06:49=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:6.0.2)=20Gecko/2 0110902=20Thunderbird/6.0.2|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20David=20Brod beck=20|CC:=20FreeBSD=20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20much=20to=20my=20surprise....|Ref erences:=20<201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com>=20<4B62 F4A4-4B49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com>=20<20110923000 837.GD7704@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk>=20<4E7C31D6.1040404@infra caninophile.co.uk>=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201. 3.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=2 0micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signatur e"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigD59DB45960A1AD02DDB1A977 "; b=MlttlUQIdtHu8/R+JlAyHiZBy3yaqQVhj1CgJewWctvbiOzQhfLvv0aSCu5Jj6Ah2 sVXuQnDD4MVYWv6dql1qau70fwfu3xwBSXwO7BLcGacBJmRwBTKQZy0pDc3QQmrdRu SKAFIkD60UVDSIsyKtkj707C3at50efmZxuOGHY0= Message-ID: <4E7CE6D9.7040004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:06:49 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Brodbeck References: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4B62F4A4-4B49-4CB5-91F1-A3C3E624251F@d3photography.com> <20110923000837.GD7704@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E7C31D6.1040404@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD59DB45960A1AD02DDB1A977" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:06:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD59DB45960A1AD02DDB1A977 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 23/09/2011 19:19, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Matthew Seaman > wrote: >> > Not my experience. Running my own DNS is simple and trouble free, p= lus >> > it gives me much more scope to play with things like DNSSEC. > I've done it before, but I don't anymore. Partly because it's very > hard to provide proper levels of DNS redundancy if you're running your > own DNS server. Not that the big players always get it right; I've > seen ones that had four authoritative servers that were all on the > same subnet. ;) Yeah. My ISP will 2ary my zones onto their much larger and diversely situated servers at no extra cost. That's pretty handy. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigD59DB45960A1AD02DDB1A977 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk585toACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyj1ACfeo9oLSJDblKoUkexZWX+ObAB awYAn13Wn2lJw2UDFrImaGtlcUcHJCSq =qSRL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD59DB45960A1AD02DDB1A977-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 20:27:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3142B1065677 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B748A8FC18 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxg9 with SMTP id 9so5403885fxg.13 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:27:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JpSsCYMaenW5BP0y85DYs7g3IHNDKGKmGhxqeqVfD+4=; b=v3CEiPl/WDnjTdV2JoiIlv3ni+eLXrP+RUtfqABZwGxNQEamIs2ZgHEecKHiOj9dXj eyfQgwshhqiSq3/NOVpeL7C44xMXx8qhbXWzZjZz3KI1G3hDHQari+6IrnHkqNVqstBs p61nokD1M4+hT+5caxn8iBpiJ97EL2giOOk5U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.39.91 with SMTP id f27mr5621288fae.26.1316809650585; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.24.129 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:27:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E7CCB91.4050206@gmail.com> References: <4e79f205.0c74970a.09a6.ffffadbaSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <4E7CCB91.4050206@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:27:30 -0400 Message-ID: From: Outback Dingo To: Joseph Lenox Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pci express ZFS card? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:27:32 -0000 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Joseph Lenox wrote: > On 09/21/2011 09:16 AM, Eduardo Morras wrote: >> >> Hi, i have this used pci express industrial card (PCIe 2.0 x4) with 1GB: >> >> >> http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=00001000010000000001&cid=08141333914287007902&id=0A263601401161285688 >> >> I want to install a NanoBSD with ZFS and 3 Sata disks. Unfortunately i >> know nothing about this topic. Does anynone know if this type of cards can >> be connected to a server? Can i access the zfs raidz on it througth the pci >> express interface? >> >> The card documentation says nothing about its use on normal pc as >> expansion card, only on pci express backplanes. >> >> TIA > > I would posit that it is only for use as on a PCI Express backplane; I don't > even see how it would fit in a standard PCI Express slot (seeing as the > backplane connector is physically longer than the PCI Express connector). > Moreover, the card itself looks like a system-on-a-board (a complete > computer system on a single mainboard). > This is definatley a backplane SBC designed system, and will not work in a standard motherboard, seems to me what he really wants is like an OCZ revo drive, or Fusion IO card > --Joseph Lenox > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 21:04:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9F4106566C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1DF8FC14 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9841 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2011 21:04:04 -0000 Received: from s3.stradamotorsports.com (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.125]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Sep 2011 21:04:04 -0000 Message-ID: <4E7CF443.2000701@speakeasy.net> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:04:03 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110120 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd general questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:04:05 -0000 I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little more sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. I have two servers. I'd like to make each a backup server for the other. I'm considering using rsync. Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? Should I use the rsyncd or should I use NFS? I'm using 100 mbps ethernet. What's the better solution I haven't considered? Thanks, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 21:10:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446A61065676 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from emlpirnp0.waddell.com (emlpirnp0.waddell.com [67.130.252.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169708FC0C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emlpfilt4.waddell.com ([10.1.10.26]) by emlpirnp1.waddell.com with ESMTP; 23 Sep 2011 16:10:10 -0500 Received: from emlpfilt4.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id A477E578BA6 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:10:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com (wadphtcas0.waddell.com [192.168.203.229]) by emlpfilt4.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D342578BA5 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:10:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.213]) by WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com ([192.168.203.229]) with mapi; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:10:10 -0500 From: Gary Gatten To: freebsd general questions Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:10:10 -0500 Thread-Topic: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol Thread-Index: Acx6NG72MNlw6JCfRtOH+ihu6EUCvAAAIecA Message-ID: <361_1316812210_4E7CF5B2_361_62_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C803FABB@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <4E7CF443.2000701@speakeasy.net> In-Reply-To: <4E7CF443.2000701@speakeasy.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:10:23 -0000 I'm sure you'll get a TON of responses on this. Maybe some script that com= bines tar, g[b]zip, and rsync? I wouldn't use NFS just for this, but if it= 's already there it may have a place. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jason C. Wells Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:04 PM To: freebsd general questions Subject: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little=20 more sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. I have two servers. I'd=20 like to make each a backup server for the other. I'm considering using=20 rsync. Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? Should I use the rsyncd or should I use NFS? I'm using 100 mbps ethernet. What's the better solution I haven't considered? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 21:12:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223851065670 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3CF8FC12 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p8NLBeUJ096979; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:11:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id p8NLBe3f096978; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:11:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:11:40 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Jason C. Wells" Message-ID: <20110923211140.GB96837@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4E7CF443.2000701@speakeasy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E7CF443.2000701@speakeasy.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:12:30 -0000 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 02:04:03PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little > more sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. I have two servers. I'd > like to make each a backup server for the other. I'm considering using > rsync. > Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? rsync can be used effectively. The optimum solution really depends on how much total disk and how much changes between each run. > Should I use the rsyncd or should I use NFS? I'm using 100 mbps ethernet. > What's the better solution I haven't considered? Why would you interject NFS in the middle of it? ////jerry > > Thanks, > Jason > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 21:13:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AAA106567E for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C108E8FC12 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so4953653bkb.13 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:13:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.157.4 with SMTP id z4mr2793975bkw.36.1316812436427; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.148.66 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:13:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.219] In-Reply-To: <4E7CF443.2000701@speakeasy.net> References: <4E7CF443.2000701@speakeasy.net> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:13:56 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: "Jason C. Wells" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:13:58 -0000 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Jason C. Wells wrote: > I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little mo= re > sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. =A0I have two servers. =A0I'd like= to > make each a backup server for the other. =A0I'm considering using rsync. > > Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? rsync is good for mirroring one file tree to another. If you want a complete backup system centering around rsync, check out Back= upPC. NFS will let you mount one server's files from another, but you'll still need to use something to copy the files over; either rsync or something else. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 21:16:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5D11065672 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout026.mac.com (asmtpout026.mac.com [17.148.16.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9714E8FC0C for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:16:04 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp026.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0LRZ00G15V2DT580@asmtp026.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:15:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-09-23_08:2011-09-23, 2011-09-23, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1109230238 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4E7CF443.2000701@speakeasy.net> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:15:49 -0700 Message-id: References: <4E7CF443.2000701@speakeasy.net> To: "Jason C. Wells" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:16:04 -0000 On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Jason C. Wells wrote: > Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? It's OK. A versioned backup system (dump/restore, Legato Networker, Amanda, Retrospect, etc) is more efficient at using backup storage. > Should I use the rsyncd or should I use NFS? I'm using 100 mbps ethernet. If it's local and you already have NFS in place, that would be fine. If you're backing up over a WAN, rsyncd is probably a better call. > What's the better solution I haven't considered? Lots. The handbook has a chapter on backups which is worth reading, also.... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 21:31:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10612106566B for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:31:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnorwick@centurytel.net) Received: from mail961c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail961c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D7D8FC13 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:31:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: mnorwick.centurytel.net Received: from bucksnort.norwickhouse.net (174-124-9-3.dyn.centurytel.net [174.124.9.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail961c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p8NLV6eF008823 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:31:08 GMT Message-ID: <4E7CFA99.9000801@centurytel.net> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:31:05 -0500 From: "Michael D. Norwick" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110829 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=5evdw4iMqN/JdwfqWffyRdC2utGnej+UzE5jqTExdn8= c=1 sm=1 a=_tW4y8GFV1YA:10 a=wL4D9ItRqiQA:10 a=3WPTVEtZbjMA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=sN1ymm187tx0Nq4bb7dXQQ==:17 a=op-6SNy7TgowlLct-iUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=sN1ymm187tx0Nq4bb7dXQQ==:117 Subject: Trying to build Nessus 4 from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:31:10 -0000 Good Day Trying to build /usr/ports/security/nessus on FreeBSD 9-beta2 with ports updated via - portsnap fetch update - completed 09/22/2011. The result from #>make; ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for nessus-libraries-2.2.9_1 ===> nessus-libraries-2.2.9_1 depends on executable: bison - found ===> nessus-libraries-2.2.9_1 depends on package: libtool>=2.4 - found ===> Configuring for nessus-libraries-2.2.9_1 ******************************************************** * W a r n i n g * * * * Nessus needs Berkeley Packet Filter (bpf). * * To use nessus, your kernel must be rebuilt with bpf, * * and make bpf devices on /dev directory. * * * * Be sure to build as many bpf devices as you need. * * For more info on this read files/README.BPF * ******************************************************** *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/nessus-libraries. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/nessus-libnasl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/nessus. From an earlier post on freebsd-questions I added; # Historically X depended on this, but version 4.3.0 doesn't seem to anymore #link ttyv0 vga # Commonly used by many ports #link acd0 cdrom # Allow a user in the wheel group to query the smb0 device #perm smb0 0660 # Allow members of group operator to cat things to the speaker #own speaker root:operator #perm speaker 0660 own bpf0 root:bpf perm bpf0 0640 own bpf1 root:bpf perm bpf1 0640 own bpf2 root:bpf perm bpf2 0640 own bpf3 root:bpf perm bpf3 0640 own bpf4 root:bpf perm bpf4 0640 to /etc/devfs.conf. But I still get; crw-r----- 1 root bpf 0, 11 Sep 22 21:14 bpf lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3 Sep 22 21:14 bpf0 -> bpf crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 49 Sep 22 21:14 bpsm0 in /dev after rebooting. Do I require a statement in rc.conf or loader.conf to activate more bpf devices? Am I editing the right file the wrong way? The proper handbook chapter escapes me right now. Previous to trying to build nessus from ports I built a new kernel with - device bpf enabled. Thank You, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 21:31:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF821065670 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525BA8FC15 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC662065CC7 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:12:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id NXQIdexRWkxV for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318922065CC4 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098D15139B; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:12:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id K2t05MqdqyB6; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id EA4145139C; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:12:06 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110923211206.GA18716@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E7CF443.2000701@speakeasy.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E7CF443.2000701@speakeasy.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/CURRENT (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:31:13 -0000 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011, Jason C. Wells wrote: > I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little > more sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. I have two servers. I'd > like to make each a backup server for the other. I'm considering using > rsync. > > Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? > Should I use the rsyncd or should I use NFS? I'm using 100 mbps ethernet. > What's the better solution I haven't considered? We use rsync extensively for backups on local LANs as well as off-site via the 'Net. My experience using NFS for this was not good, but it's been many years since I last tried this so I don't remember the details. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 Windows is a computer virus with a user interface!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 21:44:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8401065672 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA2A8FC19 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so4975688bkb.13 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:44:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.0.74 with SMTP id 10mr1835029bka.140.1316814296855; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.148.66 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:44:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.219] In-Reply-To: References: <4E7CF443.2000701@speakeasy.net> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:44:56 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd general questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:44:58 -0000 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Lots. =A0The handbook has a chapter on backups which is worth reading, al= so.... True. Personally, I like dump/restore for disaster-recovery backups on FreeBSD. However, if you frequently need individual file recovery (e.g., Joe User deletes an important file and wants it back) or if you need to back up systems running something other than FreeBSD, BackupPC is hard to beat for disk-to-disk backup. If you're going to tape you might want something like Amanda, instead. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 21:51:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C54C106566B for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lowell@Be-Well.Ilk.Org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C358FC14 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14491 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2011 21:18:40 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Sep 2011 21:18:40 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE78E2E0B2; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 53E0D39830; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:18:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Esimorp E References: <1316799216.98239.YahooMailClassic@web111820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:18:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1316799216.98239.YahooMailClassic@web111820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> (Esimorp E.'s message of "Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:33:36 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <44sjnnnejb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Damien Fleuriot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Overwrite bsd tar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:51:49 -0000 Esimorp E writes: > [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# ls -la /usr/bin/tar > lrwxr-xr-x=A0 1 root=A0 wheel=A0 6 Jul 18=A0 2010 /usr/bin/tar -> bsdtar > [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom# ls -la /usr/local/bin/gtar > ls: /usr/local/bin/gtar: No such file or directory > [prom@pcbsd-2112] /home/prom#=20 > > Please, what would the best way to resolve this problem? If you want gnu tar, which based on the earlier messages in this thread I think you do, you should install it. E.g.: cd /usr/ports/archivers/gtar=20 (su if necessary) make install From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 23 23:13:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E861065673 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867598FC08 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxg9 with SMTP id 9so5543613fxg.13 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:13:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=M2/w+4oUjDwLEYSV4S+CMRVb006eR9IOpFroxDbVqIQ=; b=nDjgvWIJGzHOaPC8kbKsHA1rNoluy1K5M/sB3d1WEYaXuG81Nb3aY5TdhuoqveMiUK croTs4NhuT4+Yv7+H9mPJ5fMvbC7l3CFgzxbYDsvjp5E9lthzfMUxup2F3MiLEezvjal ZrVfBo3X03qMjM4QnX2+uP9Aj2rwvFl5hqPLw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.40.203 with SMTP id l11mr5477330fae.107.1316819600615; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.112.137 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:13:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44sjnnnejb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <1316799216.98239.YahooMailClassic@web111820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <44sjnnnejb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:13:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Lowell Gilbert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Damien Fleuriot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Esimorp E Subject: Re: Overwrite bsd tar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:13:22 -0000 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > If you want gnu tar, which based on the earlier messages in this thread > I think you do, you should install it. > > E.g.: > cd /usr/ports/archivers/gtar > (su if necessary) > make install > Being aware of the "XY Problem" and http://www.lemis.com/questions.html is always something a newbie should understand. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 24 13:57:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A05A1065670 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 13:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nec556@retena.com) Received: from resmaa14.ono.com (smtp14.ono.com [62.42.230.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A088FC16 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 13:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from GogPortatil.retena.com (188.76.3.50) by resmaa14.ono.com (8.5.113) (authenticated as nec556@retena.com) id 4E5EF2B100629B8F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:57:12 +0200 Message-ID: <4E5EF2B100629B8F@> (added by postmaster@resmaa14.ono.com) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:57:16 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Eduardo Morras In-Reply-To: References: <4e79f205.0c74970a.09a6.ffffadbaSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <4E7CCB91.4050206@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 10.0.1410 [1520/3916] Subject: Re: Pci express ZFS card? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 13:57:15 -0000 At 22:27 23/09/2011, Outback Dingo wrote: >On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Joseph Lenox wrote: > > > > I would posit that it is only for use as on a PCI Express > backplane; I don't > > even see how it would fit in a standard PCI Express slot (seeing as the > > backplane connector is physically longer than the PCI Express connector). > > Moreover, the card itself looks like a system-on-a-board (a complete > > computer system on a single mainboard). > > > >This is definatley a backplane SBC designed system, and will not work >in a standard motherboard, seems to me what he really wants is like an >OCZ revo drive, or Fusion IO card I'm playing with the card, and it has a PCIe x4. I haven't tried to put it on a server, but FreeBSD 8.2 runs perfectly (for now) on it with 3 disks and connect by ethernet interfaces. I don' want to try connect this card to a server PCIe x4 slot before know that it's 120% safe. The card has 2 connectors on basement, a PCI one and a PCIe x4 but don't explain if it's host only or host-slave or slave only. I want a raid card with zfs instead closed source hardware raid. If raid card brokes i will need exactly the same card with the same firmware and other minor requierements for recover the raid. Using a zfs raidz i simply need to connect the disks to a freebsd server and recover it. I'll try to contact vendor again to get more info on this topic. Thanks to both. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 24 14:04:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00331065670 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from www6.pairlite.com (www6.pairlite.com [64.130.10.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22B88FC0C for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atomizer (pool-72-77-28-206.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [72.77.28.206]) by www6.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D6311B85B for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:04:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:04:18 -0400 From: Rod Person To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110924100418.50edc7ea@atomizer> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Help with devd.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:04:19 -0000 I'm trying to understand devd.conf to auto mount usb devices. For example I have a usb drive that will show up as da1 so as a test I just want to write something to syslog when it is plugged in. This is what I have tried in devd.conf: notify 20{ match "system" "DEVFS"; match "subsystem" "CDEV"; match "type" "CREATE"; match "cdev" "da[1-9]+"; action "logger you plugged in some usb device"; }; notify 20{ match "system" "USB"; match "subsytem" "DEVICE"; match "type" "ATTACH"; action "logger some type of usb thing attached"; }; With either of these the message does not get logged. I have tried different priorities and that doesn't make a difference. I have also tried using attach instead of notify and that seems to trigger something, but then I get an error message: SCSI sense: UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0 (Not ready to ready change, medium may have changed) Any help would be appreciated, thanks. -- Rod Person http://www.rodperson.com "You aint ready, yet." - Michael L. Flecther, Sr. aka Mike-A-Nike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 24 16:19:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167A2106566C for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:19:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999AB8FC15 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:19:55 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjAHACv7fU7Unw4T/2dsb2JhbABCmWOOOXiBUwEBBAF5BQsLNBJXiBECtxeHCwSHQpEyjBI Received: from outmx04.plus.net ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.pcl-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 24 Sep 2011 16:50:38 +0100 Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by outmx04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1R7UUv-0007gf-IG; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:50:37 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R7UUu-0000XP-3x; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:50:36 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:50:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20110924100418.50edc7ea@atomizer> In-Reply-To: <20110924100418.50edc7ea@atomizer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201109241650.35939.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Rod Person Subject: Re: Help with devd.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:19:56 -0000 On Saturday 24 September 2011, Rod Person wrote: > I'm trying to understand devd.conf to auto mount usb devices. For > example I have a usb drive that will show up as da1 so as a test I > just want to write something to syslog when it is plugged in. [snip] > Any help would be appreciated, thanks. This works for me: attach 10 { match "device-name" "umass[0-9]"; action "logger you plugged in some usb device"; }; -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 24 17:17:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B156106567A for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:17:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from www6.pairlite.com (www6.pairlite.com [64.130.10.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B588FC24 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atomizer (pool-72-77-28-206.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [72.77.28.206]) by www6.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E039B85B; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 13:17:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 13:17:36 -0400 From: Rod Person To: Mike Clarke Message-ID: <20110924131736.77c1429d@atomizer> In-Reply-To: <201109241650.35939.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> References: <20110924100418.50edc7ea@atomizer> <201109241650.35939.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with devd.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:17:36 -0000 On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:50:35 +0100 Mike Clarke wrote: > On Saturday 24 September 2011, Rod Person wrote: > > > I'm trying to understand devd.conf to auto mount usb devices. For > > example I have a usb drive that will show up as da1 so as a test I > > just want to write something to syslog when it is plugged in. > > [snip] > > > Any help would be appreciated, thanks. > > This works for me: > > attach 10 { > match "device-name" "umass[0-9]"; > action "logger you plugged in some usb device"; > }; Thanks, but doesn't work on my system it seems. -- Rod Person http://www.rodperson.com "You aint ready, yet." - Michael L. Flecther, Sr. aka Mike-A-Nike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 24 17:30:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC6C1065672; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22E98FC23; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:30:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=wxdoXaHhlXCPpZ61yaN+Vc7zBYl6RL4VWrkmxqWhuVM=; b=fDoWWunXYmiCd8lJ5DCGTIrPSxQijwGcdFHnVxxEEISmWkFSMGj3Hdn652Q8yndplY0VqqeDBaA4PyW2c/5Sk2kLnOxgeZ9oDGla2RfI/uo/Nuu6Vg67tWsLwx49ixboIO7waxYeVFMcPPBhpU5fFPC7nqb36jytO+6wR3PA4As= Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([76.240.47.196]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:30:37 -0700 Message-ID: <4E7E13BA.1070304@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 13:30:34 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gavin Atkinson References: <4E71F647.2050007@a1poweruser.com> <4E7453CB.1040908@freebsd.org> <4E74C9B7.2090901@a1poweruser.com> <1316799904.39972.12.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <1316799904.39972.12.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Sep 2011 17:30:37.0115 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC22A8B0:01CC7ADF] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 9.0 bata2 & keymap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:30:37 -0000 Gavin Atkinson wrote: > On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 12:24 -0400, Fbsd8 wrote: > >> Changing the cancel button in the kbdmap command to skip, does not >> address the problem, which is the lack of knowledge of the standard >> bsdinstall user. I've been using Freebsd since 4.0 and never used the >> kbdmap command or for that matter even knew it existed. > > Interesting. Sysinstall has asked for country information and then > asked you to choose a keymap (using kbdmap) if you selected a > non-default country as the first two questions (i.e. before you get the > sysinstall menu) since 6.1. Would that be a good solution still? > > Some of the other points brought up later about wanting to switch > between two different keymaps seem sensible too, though I don't > initially see how that would be possible. > > Gavin > In sysinstall you are presented with a dailog that asks you if you want to change the keyboard map and if answered yes them issues the kbdmap command. In bsdinstall you have no option to bypass the keymap step. It just issues the kbdmap command. I agree that some method to bypass the keymap step in bsdinstall needs to be added or an dialog informing the user that selecting the cancel button in kbdmap will result in the default map used in previous releases to be used. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 24 19:29:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8499106566B for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539BE8FC12 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:29:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=+4MSRXM1AzK1zqBPazhz+n1U3QB/FA8LPQWt/x+jFAY=; b=BF6xn/Yj/+JXTQcVG7H2RWbcewjKwhGlolfmLhpkJN2ZKZjoPbAjOF5KV3WIHGJu/JLagRqdnx06/Aa3zGkQBgYCcwlr75f4TJGE1U8ej+WyAJ97yfto6L0cCKvzryVhhU0w5t7UvbmsnxPEifgU+u2exWOnb/FIPiKpjWDLTXw= Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([76.240.47.196]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 24 Sep 2011 12:29:48 -0700 Message-ID: <4E7E2FAA.1000201@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:29:46 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Sep 2011 19:29:48.0538 (UTC) FILETIME=[52B735A0:01CC7AF0] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Subject: 9.0 and mouse copy/paste function X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:29:57 -0000 Since release 4.0 I have been using this statement in /etc/rc.conf moused_flags="-m 2=3" to enable mouse copy and paste function. I see in 8.x and 9.0 that there is no man page for it anymore even though it still works correctly. The man page for "moused" has one short sentence about "vidcontrol" command being used to enable the copy/paste function, but there is no examples and I can not get it to work using vidcontrol command. What is the current supported way of enabling the mouse copy and paste function in 9.0? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 24 19:32:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AFA106566B for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:32:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) Received: from p3plsmtpa09-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89D208FC13 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2624 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2011 19:32:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (75.243.9.13) by p3plsmtpa09-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.193.230) with ESMTP; 24 Sep 2011 19:32:04 -0000 From: "george vagner" To: Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:32:18 -0400 Message-ID: <0a0f01cc7af0$ae1d0960$0a571c20$@vagner.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Acx68E6KXvRrOR0JSRePwQ7Quw40NQ== Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: wifi question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:32:05 -0000 I am running an ATH0 card in hostap mode with 11g but was wondering if I can run both 11g and 11b at the same time? I was thinking mode 11g mode 11b or mode 11bg but not sure what to put on the ifconfig line. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 24 21:48:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD067106564A for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 21:48:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrei693@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0B08FC12 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 21:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyg7 with SMTP id 7so3700612eyg.13 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:48:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/bblgGpwY7G5nlnMsIbtWDSQ5N3RZP1RpTtfZrQZNGg=; b=AKcL7IUoHA/q4SHZ1LfFOXdmQPf8b4bKETvmtv5VRK9TDz4BVONM8Lq0YLw6a2vwxJ 9uNpMpmARh5Rczq+XchIQzilpYhkCC93/KFMUHQOujmYjf/bSUA7abWrFqOb0cQXpqIS nhvhoHTnDLzmUEnsJcoQgspLO/PUhIA9JsODM= Received: by 10.213.2.206 with SMTP id 14mr556497ebk.77.1316899499525; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (dhcp-077-251-216-229.chello.nl. [77.251.216.229]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z54sm44738681eef.2.2011.09.24.14.24.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E7E4A9D.70901@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 23:24:45 +0200 From: Andrei Brezan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E7BEA42.4020004@a1poweruser.com> <4E7CFA99.9000801@centurytel.net> In-Reply-To: <4E7CFA99.9000801@centurytel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Trying to build Nessus 4 from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 21:48:55 -0000 On 23/09/2011 23:31, Michael D. Norwick wrote: > Good Day > > Trying to build /usr/ports/security/nessus on FreeBSD 9-beta2 with > ports updated via - portsnap fetch update - completed 09/22/2011. The > result from #>make; > > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for nessus-libraries-2.2.9_1 > ===> nessus-libraries-2.2.9_1 depends on executable: bison - found > ===> nessus-libraries-2.2.9_1 depends on package: libtool>=2.4 - found > ===> Configuring for nessus-libraries-2.2.9_1 > ******************************************************** > * W a r n i n g * > * * > * Nessus needs Berkeley Packet Filter (bpf). * > * To use nessus, your kernel must be rebuilt with bpf, * > * and make bpf devices on /dev directory. * > * * > * Be sure to build as many bpf devices as you need. * > * For more info on this read files/README.BPF * > ******************************************************** > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/security/nessus-libraries. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/security/nessus-libnasl. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/security/nessus. > > From an earlier post on freebsd-questions I added; > > # Historically X depended on this, but version 4.3.0 doesn't seem to > anymore > #link ttyv0 vga > > # Commonly used by many ports > #link acd0 cdrom > > # Allow a user in the wheel group to query the smb0 device > #perm smb0 0660 > > # Allow members of group operator to cat things to the speaker > #own speaker root:operator > #perm speaker 0660 > > own bpf0 root:bpf > perm bpf0 0640 > own bpf1 root:bpf > perm bpf1 0640 > own bpf2 root:bpf > perm bpf2 0640 > own bpf3 root:bpf > perm bpf3 0640 > own bpf4 root:bpf > perm bpf4 0640 > > to /etc/devfs.conf. But I still get; > > crw-r----- 1 root bpf 0, 11 Sep 22 21:14 bpf > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3 Sep 22 21:14 bpf0 -> bpf > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 49 Sep 22 21:14 bpsm0 > > in /dev after rebooting. Do I require a statement in rc.conf or > loader.conf to activate more bpf devices? Am I editing the right file > the wrong way? The proper handbook chapter escapes me right now. > > Previous to trying to build nessus from ports I built a new kernel > with - device bpf enabled. > > Thank You, > Michael > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I would suggest to get the package from tenable.com and install it via pkg_add. That's how it worked for me but on FreeBSD 8.2-stable. Might worth a shot. Regards, -- Andrei Brezan email