From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 02:00:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544C7106564A; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 02:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65FB8FC0A; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 02:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so18565897iwn.13 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:00:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=yO+TOJx3oSxHDXq9STUcJKJKVcPiPDb+eHr61Xc56SQ=; b=OFw9XhO/FCbAeoebONoCH33Y3YEs1Gpcfk6Ww0Mr+SwuBydW7BTJ8Ctucpe2M4k626 i2xqV8FG+2TgyrpffeRCh3ga6KAfausfjKymNSGQu1JoKarFLQFynFoFoRDy6TClt/sL S7AQDpIqE0pIEGkhfmAtHXuUWAdaqJWNXtQZs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=VTbyUmdcxxkbQuiHe/wTLrtQ22O80VSZonCKjb0c5Id+L1VxTU60a7uGw86+Lx9kiY 2IX1BYWvWYCHKd3VmBmorrSv4oH4It3bLPoLk56zGtcXQkcqIOkjot1dnP7k0a5bnvag fBqZ5CYB0CqQlEKQyvQkK2tV37fS37b7juiOw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.35.1 with SMTP id n1mr11125780ibd.0.1294538405134; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:00:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.79.197 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 18:00:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> References: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:00:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Nathan Whitehorn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDInstall ISO images X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 02:00:06 -0000 On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wr= ote: > I've spent some time integrating bsdinstall into startup of install CDs, > mostly related to building useful live-CD-based installers. An i386 image > can be found here (other architectures may follow, as my very slow DSL li= ne > permits): > > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110108.iso.bz2 > > The source for this can be found at: > > svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/user/nwhitehorn/bsdinstall > > The bits related to live CD usage are the testsystem.sh and rc.local file= s. > Instead of running sysinstall as an init replacement, I have written a sm= all > rc.local script that gives the user the option to either start the > installer, open a single-user-mode style shell, or to continue to boot to= a > multi-user live CD. Also, instead of the md root used by sysinstall, this > just boots from the CD directly. This prevents the need for sysinstall's > media selection, since the distribution files are in the mounted root fil= e > system. > > I would appreciate any comments or test results. > -Nathan > I tried to install the .iso . Here is my steps . The main board : Intel DG 945 WHMKR PS/2 mouse PS/2 keyboard Samsung Syncmaster 2233SN 1920 x 1080 LCD ( VGA port ) monitor . No hard disk attached ( Power disconnected ) Installer started . After displaying Welcome ... Installer , Shell , Live C= D , keyboard and mouse are frozen . The computer started with Reset button . Mouse cursor disappeared , but keyboard worked on install Welcome dialog . Before starting installation , Seagate Desktop Expansion Hard Disk has been attached to a USB port . ugen2.2 ... umass0 ... da0 ... messages have overwrite =C2=B4Installer , Shell , Live CD=C2=B4 line of dia= log . By pressing Left Arrow and Right Arrow , recovered the dialog selection lin= e . Installer has been selected . Host name has been asked , but any name structure is not explained , such a= s a single name or with another name . ( For personal installs , there is no administrator other than installer , there is no other person to ask anything . ) A single word is given and reached to the Partition Editor . In the Seagate Expansion drive , there was Mandriva Linux as installed . ( Pressing red letters in the Partition Editor is not working . It is necessary to come over the item to be selected and press Enter . ) When Create is selected Add Partition dialog displayed . Label : This is a known concept . A more descriptive sentence may be used = . Mount Point : What is =C2=A8Mount Point" ? I assumed / would be correct . Pressing Ok displayed Error : Invalid argument . Size =C2=B4195454664=C2=B4 Ok I have deleted / symbol from =C2=A8Mount point=C2=A8 and pressed Enter . The above error displayed . I have selected Edit . Warning displayed . I have selected Yes . Partition Scheme menu displayed . I thought =C2=B4BSD labels=C2=B4 would be good . I have selected it . Returned to Partition Editor . I have pressed Create . Displayed Add Partition dialog . Pressing Ok , displayed the above error message . By entering =C2=B4Edit=C2=B4 , I have deleted existing partitions . I have pressed Finished . Dialog =C2=B4Confirmation=C2=B4 displayed . Yes entered . Initialize dialog displayed . After that =C2=B4Abort=C2=B4 dialog displayed : You canceled ... Restart entered . After repeating the above steps , Exit selected because =C2=B4Abort=C2=B4 d= ialog . Result : Failure . My suggestions : 1. Please select an audience of installer : Elementary school students . High school school students . University students . University graduates Computer engineers . FreeBSD experts , or others . Use a language and steps that these may be easily followed by the installer= s 2. Before displaying a menu for selection , please check the validity of items to be selected , and display only VALID items . Doing display first , and making checks after selection is causing complete failures sometimes . 3. Please use explanatory sentences as sufficiently long . On the screen , there are at least 80 x 25 =3D 2000 characters available . 4. Lowering the level of prior knowledge about FreeBSD will increase adoption of it by more inexperienced users . 5. Studying installation of other operating systems may be helpful . It is not necessary to copy their copy-righted material , but ideas may utilized = . In that respect , my first suggestions , in order of easiness would be Mandriva , Fedora , Debian Linux , PC-BSD . Thank you very much for your efforts and contributions . Please accept my ideas only for toward contribution to remedy difficulties and to make a mor= e easily usable installer . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 02:45:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C97106566C for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 02:45:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.ross@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C0B888FC12 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 02:45:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Jan 2011 02:19:01 -0000 Received: from dslb-178-003-208-218.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO michael-think) [178.3.208.218] by mail.gmx.net (mp061) with SMTP; 09 Jan 2011 03:19:01 +0100 X-Authenticated: #11429267 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX184MvV/uLk4HqlXH3QlFBH/Twq8PqbWUyL2/cpR81 nD0rU3eJHmHLdp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, "Nathan Whitehorn" References: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 03:18:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.00 (Win32) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Re: BSDInstall ISO images X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 02:45:44 -0000 Am 08.01.2011, 23:54 Uhr, schrieb Nathan Whitehorn : > I've spent some time integrating bsdinstall into startup of install CDs, > mostly related to building useful live-CD-based installers. An i386 > image can be found here (other architectures may follow, as my very slow > DSL line permits): > > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110108.iso.bz2 > > The source for this can be found at: > > svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/user/nwhitehorn/bsdinstall > > The bits related to live CD usage are the testsystem.sh and rc.local > files. Instead of running sysinstall as an init replacement, I have > written a small rc.local script that gives the user the option to either > start the installer, open a single-user-mode style shell, or to continue > to boot to a multi-user live CD. Also, instead of the md root used by > sysinstall, this just boots from the CD directly. This prevents the need > for sysinstall's media selection, since the distribution files are in > the mounted root file system. > > I would appreciate any comments or test results. > -Nathan Some quick results from toying around, mainly in the partition editor: - I can't delete slices. Ever. "Device busy" - I can't delete partitions ("Device busy") once they have been accessed, e.g. after interrupting the installation process ("Finished" Ctrl-C "Restart") - Sometimes "Finished" shows the "You have cancelled... Restart?"-Dialog right away. Not sure how to reproduce. - "Add Partition"-Dialog: Having to change between Tab- and Cursor-Keys to navigate this dialog confuses me. I keep pressing Tab to go to the next field. Shift-Tab closes the dialog entirely instead of navigating backwards. "Label" has to be left blank, else "Invalid value". (plus, the errormessage could indicate which of the values is invalid) - Adding additional users: Crtl-C here cancels the whole installation process? After reboot: First try: No mountroot, but system boots after specifying manually. Second try (after installation from scratch): No mountroot, no /etc/fstab on disk. Regards, Michael > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sysinstall > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-sysinstall-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 03:01:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9731065674; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 03:01:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4DE8FC1C; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 03:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48C1E8B4A; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 03:01:02 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=r1JlEci2RQ21 rTp9EI72Gp20lVc=; b=WTeCxkmLUKbnmlRVQpeqrk3e/MQJxdowidVQNvJ4lvrC QUlg8kV2zu9HWcGOs+aY0NobC+9lJ8yn4Vq/ETzQD4jeRhnAeBcn+f0pGmP2kA28 UlHywBqkv5L5dlLrAKKFaJZo1iZRvunkKxcgn1R6PvUPnvNkhilDH6mbIo+/HIw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=OYhMoq 4j9ZmSGcAtopDAe14Tr/iRxlPzygcLmA0h9msf8Yb31Yl0GlZAsc4frYj0qcBfpw vpIVRvuIFbhYM1DM07gbL93b1rNP4EmEEA1pPDPoptq1EyxKzNu+y6ROvR2zxQPr 3Dc9olEiDBnEEw5VrE6XnTCQima7OKRGnFs8M= Received: from unknown (client-86-27-23-77.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.27.23.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61F98E8B49; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 03:01:02 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 03:00:56 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Nathan Whitehorn Message-ID: <20110109030056.0000613f@unknown> In-Reply-To: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> References: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSDInstall ISO images X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 03:01:04 -0000 On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 16:54:42 -0600 Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > I would appreciate any comments or test results. Trying to create a 200GB freebsd partition in an MBR or BSD scheme on a 200GB disk results in the message "Invalid argument. size '419430400'" - it looks like it's trying to create a partition slightly too big, because 198GB works. Trying to delete a partition results in the message "Device busy". Trying to revert also results in an error message, but the revert does happen despite text messages overwriting the ncurses window. The only other thing I noticed is that some of the windows look a bit small so there's just one word per line. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 05:38:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167671065673; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 05:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.icecube.wisc.edu (trout.icecube.wisc.edu [128.104.255.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12CA8FC0C; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 05:38:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194CA5811A; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:38:15 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at icecube.wisc.edu Received: from mail.icecube.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (trout.icecube.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id dfVdWyXnZF9D; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:38:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from wanderer.tachypleus.net (unknown [76.210.75.5]) by mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6814558119; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:38:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4D2949C5.2060001@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 23:38:13 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Ross References: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDInstall ISO images X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 05:38:16 -0000 On 01/08/11 20:18, Michael Ross wrote: > Am 08.01.2011, 23:54 Uhr, schrieb Nathan Whitehorn > : > >> I've spent some time integrating bsdinstall into startup of install >> CDs, mostly related to building useful live-CD-based installers. An >> i386 image can be found here (other architectures may follow, as my >> very slow DSL line permits): >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110108.iso.bz2 >> >> The source for this can be found at: >> >> svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/user/nwhitehorn/bsdinstall >> >> The bits related to live CD usage are the testsystem.sh and rc.local >> files. Instead of running sysinstall as an init replacement, I have >> written a small rc.local script that gives the user the option to >> either start the installer, open a single-user-mode style shell, or to >> continue to boot to a multi-user live CD. Also, instead of the md root >> used by sysinstall, this just boots from the CD directly. This >> prevents the need for sysinstall's media selection, since the >> distribution files are in the mounted root file system. >> >> I would appreciate any comments or test results. >> -Nathan > > Some quick results from toying around, mainly in the partition editor: > > - I can't delete slices. Ever. "Device busy" > > - I can't delete partitions ("Device busy") once they have been > accessed, e.g. after interrupting the installation process ("Finished" > Ctrl-C "Restart") Right, you can't delete currently mounted partitions, and partedit isn't smart enough to unmount them first. I hadn't thought about this problem -- thanks for the report. > - Sometimes "Finished" shows the "You have cancelled... Restart?"-Dialog > right away. Not sure how to reproduce. That should very much never happen, unless you press "Don't save". I'd love to know how you got this to happen, if you manage to reproduce it in the future. > - "Add Partition"-Dialog: > Having to change between Tab- and Cursor-Keys to navigate this dialog > confuses me. I keep pressing Tab to go to the next field. > Shift-Tab closes the dialog entirely instead of navigating backwards. > "Label" has to be left blank, else "Invalid value". (plus, the > errormessage could indicate which of the values is invalid) The Tab issue is a just a difference between the new dialog this uses and the current system dialog. I'll see if it's possible to change. The label thing is trickier. The "Invalid value" comes out of the kernel when trying to set a label on a partition scheme that does not support them, and the kernel does not provide useful information on the problem (e.g. which field was invalid). The partition editor has to have intimate knowledge of the partition schemes to fix this. > - Adding additional users: > Crtl-C here cancels the whole installation process? After reboot: > First try: No mountroot, but system boots after specifying manually. > Second try (after installation from scratch): No mountroot, no > /etc/fstab on disk. Most of the steps are set to cancel the whole process if you Cntrl-C. That should probably not be the case as soon as it has finished unpacking the system. Can you provide details on how you configured your system that resulted in no /etc/fstab? Did you see the "Installation Complete" dialog? Thank you very much for testing this! -Nathan From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 05:40:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B991065670; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 05:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.icecube.wisc.edu (trout.icecube.wisc.edu [128.104.255.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C849F8FC08; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 05:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBA45811A; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:40:40 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at icecube.wisc.edu Received: from mail.icecube.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (trout.icecube.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id 7bQ7Vd1OmLM7; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:40:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from wanderer.tachypleus.net (unknown [76.210.75.5]) by mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E3958119; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:40:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4D294A57.2070502@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 23:40:39 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran References: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> <20110109030056.0000613f@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20110109030056.0000613f@unknown> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSDInstall ISO images X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 05:40:41 -0000 On 01/08/11 21:00, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 16:54:42 -0600 > Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > >> I would appreciate any comments or test results. > > Trying to create a 200GB freebsd partition in an MBR or BSD scheme on a > 200GB disk results in the message "Invalid argument. size > '419430400'" - it looks like it's trying to create a partition > slightly too big, because 198GB works. Trying to delete a partition > results in the message "Device busy". Trying to revert also results in > an error message, but the revert does happen despite text messages > overwriting the ncurses window. Drat, there must be a rounding error in humanize_number(). I'll change partedit to round down to the maximum possible size. Was the partition you were trying to delete when you got the error message currently mounted? The text messages are LORs. The kernel on the image has WITNESS enabled, and installing a system seems to expose a great number of them. > The only other thing I noticed is that some of the windows look a bit > small so there's just one word per line. That is some funny autosizing behavior in libdialog. Not sure how to change it. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 07:58:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26327106566C; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 07:58:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DED8FC0A; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 07:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p097wRY8012055; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 07:58:27 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p097wRAN012051; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 07:58:27 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 07:58:27 GMT Message-Id: <201101090758.p097wRAN012051@freefall.freebsd.org> To: linimon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org From: linimon@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: bin/153809: [patch] sysinstall(8): Choose Distributions screen, conflicting selection key A X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:58:28 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] sysinstall(8): Choose Distributions screen, conflicting selection key A Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-sysinstall Responsible-Changed-By: linimon Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Jan 9 07:58:16 UTC 2011 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to maintainer(s). http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=153809 From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 09:28:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB86106564A; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 09:28:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6288FC1A; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 09:28:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD923E8B49; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 09:28:36 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=7AXfXQyCtEXo W1hANGtqdTJH/UI=; b=qBlzvrLewKjynO3AvqRNUo4a5YSCzqpF1DWmcW8fvYGn QF4x8IoQkN2SPt4BtuWx7ZrtxVR3Lfwx8HbcNCNG+bhE583jIeYG0/PptZJzWwTS jzKcZjch8GVkdJBwuFUZBmYyW2cq+drQHqrZL425saq/VFr9PY3rCsYPSzgHtUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=trWAZt 2MidnqXEpR18hZMs6HdIX6jAtGWyAoJIIvS3APaBI7XvboD+upxV/J03nnqA5OWN etRMF7AB5pzQgAVW3jYRWJBbN4xoJDEH0LlL12wk4MTEaPNC5nPUscUJSBcy0zxv pKPLAFTuAzzDxUDHvbJvqiPA376SmZAfVW97Y= Received: from unknown (client-86-27-23-77.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.27.23.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7FECAE8A9A; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 09:28:36 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 09:28:30 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Nathan Whitehorn Message-ID: <20110109092830.00002456@unknown> In-Reply-To: <4D294A57.2070502@freebsd.org> References: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> <20110109030056.0000613f@unknown> <4D294A57.2070502@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSDInstall ISO images X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 09:28:38 -0000 > Drat, there must be a rounding error in humanize_number(). I'll > change partedit to round down to the maximum possible size. Was the > partition you were trying to delete when you got the error message > currently mounted? I don't think so - I'd just created it. > > The text messages are LORs. The kernel on the image has WITNESS > enabled, and installing a system seems to expose a great number of > them. They're not LORs: tmp/bsdinstall_etc/fstab:0: No such file or directory fstab: /tmp/bsdinstall_etc/fstab:0: No such file or directory -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 12:28:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA961065673 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.ross@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3C648FC16 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Jan 2011 12:28:53 -0000 Received: from dslb-178-003-208-218.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO michael-think) [178.3.208.218] by mail.gmx.net (mp049) with SMTP; 09 Jan 2011 13:28:53 +0100 X-Authenticated: #11429267 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/Gjp0WaAnGUosCzyaGn+BuAmDiXYpUbUOzKV/O8T Osb1J9PlRg7ohI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Nathan Whitehorn" References: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> <4D2949C5.2060001@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 13:28:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4D2949C5.2060001@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.00 (Win32) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDInstall ISO images X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:28:56 -0000 Am 09.01.2011, 06:38 Uhr, schrieb Nathan Whitehorn : > On 01/08/11 20:18, Michael Ross wrote: >> Some quick results from toying around, mainly in the partition editor: >> >> - I can't delete slices. Ever. "Device busy" >> >> - I can't delete partitions ("Device busy") once they have been >> accessed, e.g. after interrupting the installation process ("Finished" >> Ctrl-C "Restart") > > Right, you can't delete currently mounted partitions, and partedit isn't > smart enough to unmount them first. I hadn't thought about this problem > -- thanks for the report. > >> - Sometimes "Finished" shows the "You have cancelled... Restart?"-Dialog >> right away. Not sure how to reproduce. > > That should very much never happen, unless you press "Don't save". I'd > love to know how you got this to happen, if you manage to reproduce it > in the future. Press "Finished" without having specified ``/'' as a mountpoint on any partition. More, once I do this, I can't change the mount point anymore. Step-by-Step: 1. Create da0s1, da0s1a. No mount point specified. Select "Finished". Result: "Abort - you have cancelled... Restart?" Select Restart. 2. "Edit" mount point on da0s1a to /. Select "Finished". Result: A error dialog pops up: "mount operation not permitted". >> - "Add Partition"-Dialog: >> Having to change between Tab- and Cursor-Keys to navigate this dialog >> confuses me. I keep pressing Tab to go to the next field. >> Shift-Tab closes the dialog entirely instead of navigating backwards. >> "Label" has to be left blank, else "Invalid value". (plus, the >> errormessage could indicate which of the values is invalid) > > The Tab issue is a just a difference between the new dialog this uses > and the current system dialog. I'll see if it's possible to change. Having ESC work would be nice, too. > The label thing is trickier. The "Invalid value" comes out of the kernel > when trying to set a label on a partition scheme that does not support > them, and the kernel does not provide useful information on the problem > (e.g. which field was invalid). The partition editor has to have > intimate knowledge of the partition schemes to fix this. I may be unclear on the terminology. I expected "label" to be a geom-label-label, i.e. I have da0 MBR da0s1 BSD da0s1a freebsd-ufs so I could label da0s1a as I could with glabel. >> - Adding additional users: >> Crtl-C here cancels the whole installation process? After reboot: >> First try: No mountroot, but system boots after specifying manually. >> Second try (after installation from scratch): No mountroot, no >> /etc/fstab on disk. > > Most of the steps are set to cancel the whole process if you Cntrl-C. > That should probably not be the case as soon as it has finished > unpacking the system. Can you provide details on how you configured your > system that resulted in no /etc/fstab? Did you see the "Installation > Complete" dialog? How to not have /etc/fstab: Install, answer "yes" to "Add users?", press Ctrl-C when adduser asks for username. End up at login prompt of liveCD. No "Installation Complete"-Dialog. Other issue: I tried "GPT" for da0, wrote to disk ("Finished"), but did not actually installing anything. Changed back to "MBR". Installed alright, but booting fails with "FATAL: INT18: BOOT FAILURE" I reboot into the installer, partition editor shows da0 MBR and nothing else for da0. Select da0, "Create", "OK" -> Popup "File exists: geom da0s1" -> Question "Select Partition scheme" -> "Cancel" Now partition editor shows da0 MBR da0s1 BSD da0s1a freebsd-ufs Can install, but still "FATAL: INT18: BOOT FAILURE". Couldn't figure out how to get around this short of re-initializing the HD (VirtualBox, so no trouble there). > Thank you very much for testing this! > -Nathan Well, thanks for giving me something to test :-) Michael From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 20:12:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F75106566B; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:12:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.icecube.wisc.edu (trout.icecube.wisc.edu [128.104.255.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C88E8FC0C; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B665811A; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 14:12:04 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at icecube.wisc.edu Received: from mail.icecube.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (trout.icecube.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id Pjc7xt+uYhKe; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 14:12:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from wanderer.tachypleus.net (unknown [76.210.75.5]) by mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BEB58119; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 14:12:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4D2A1692.7040202@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 14:12:02 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Ross References: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> <4D2949C5.2060001@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDInstall ISO images X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 20:12:05 -0000 On 01/09/11 06:28, Michael Ross wrote: > Am 09.01.2011, 06:38 Uhr, schrieb Nathan Whitehorn > : > >> On 01/08/11 20:18, Michael Ross wrote: > >>> Some quick results from toying around, mainly in the partition editor: >>> >>> - I can't delete slices. Ever. "Device busy" >>> >>> - I can't delete partitions ("Device busy") once they have been >>> accessed, e.g. after interrupting the installation process ("Finished" >>> Ctrl-C "Restart") >> >> Right, you can't delete currently mounted partitions, and partedit >> isn't smart enough to unmount them first. I hadn't thought about this >> problem -- thanks for the report. >> >>> - Sometimes "Finished" shows the "You have cancelled... Restart?"-Dialog >>> right away. Not sure how to reproduce. >> >> That should very much never happen, unless you press "Don't save". I'd >> love to know how you got this to happen, if you manage to reproduce it >> in the future. > > Press "Finished" without having specified ``/'' as a mountpoint on any > partition. > More, once I do this, I can't change the mount point anymore. > Step-by-Step: > 1. Create da0s1, da0s1a. No mount point specified. Select "Finished". > Result: "Abort - you have cancelled... Restart?" Select Restart. > 2. "Edit" mount point on da0s1a to /. Select "Finished". > Result: A error dialog pops up: "mount operation not permitted". > I think I've fixed all these problems (and the ones reported by Bruce Cran and Joel Dahl), as well as adding some anti-foot-shooting measures. Here's a new image, hopefully better: http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110109.iso.bz2 -Nathan From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 9 23:01:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EAF010656D8; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254A58FC0A; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so18030521iyb.13 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 15:01:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=bcHmHyyv8bQx7CIJF8GNA9gt5RXjojVWsyfWi2GrHpI=; b=b/kC4CZM0f0BCB5dYnheCB24rmWTezapQCu/zcVsboV6ILYheZUyS3aJoKEWujUDB8 Izhj8QYUd3TlpDs9A5LWqlg9OIvczIbN9IToENGA1YIXObSgOesLwEDJHUYmU12+sMdt oEl6IgFpt77eb8w0T0qTFuNtFjE4RGQ3iZREE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=bkx0X+zX2kLT2ehRnG+9El7nXoSo/7JvAL+YIGLeBKNcQOTvlzvS7KwNOiVQ1gvj3m TJcB1mFPBMjnAqOGOZx4Y2U+4OEwk6KgjwE9C820w7rWIRxgTeifFiID+AXh+eldizGd mby7uSXKAHlbR8mp/WQUPtj+UcHhonCDWT/eo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.12.68 with SMTP id w4mr12040525ibw.50.1294614090339; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 15:01:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.79.197 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 15:01:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D2A1692.7040202@freebsd.org> References: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> <4D2949C5.2060001@freebsd.org> <4D2A1692.7040202@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 18:01:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Nathan Whitehorn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDInstall ISO images X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 23:01:31 -0000 On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wr= ote: > On 01/09/11 06:28, Michael Ross wrote: > >> Am 09.01.2011, 06:38 Uhr, schrieb Nathan Whitehorn >> : >> >> On 01/08/11 20:18, Michael Ross wrote: >>> >> >> Some quick results from toying around, mainly in the partition editor: >>>> >>>> - I can't delete slices. Ever. "Device busy" >>>> >>>> - I can't delete partitions ("Device busy") once they have been >>>> accessed, e.g. after interrupting the installation process ("Finished" >>>> Ctrl-C "Restart") >>>> >>> >>> Right, you can't delete currently mounted partitions, and partedit >>> isn't smart enough to unmount them first. I hadn't thought about this >>> problem -- thanks for the report. >>> >>> - Sometimes "Finished" shows the "You have cancelled... Restart?"-Dial= og >>>> right away. Not sure how to reproduce. >>>> >>> >>> That should very much never happen, unless you press "Don't save". I'd >>> love to know how you got this to happen, if you manage to reproduce it >>> in the future. >>> >> >> Press "Finished" without having specified ``/'' as a mountpoint on any >> partition. >> More, once I do this, I can't change the mount point anymore. >> Step-by-Step: >> 1. Create da0s1, da0s1a. No mount point specified. Select "Finished". >> Result: "Abort - you have cancelled... Restart?" Select Restart. >> 2. "Edit" mount point on da0s1a to /. Select "Finished". >> Result: A error dialog pops up: "mount operation not permitted". >> >> > I think I've fixed all these problems (and the ones reported by Bruce Cra= n > and Joel Dahl), as well as adding some anti-foot-shooting measures. Here'= s a > new image, hopefully better: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110109.iso.bz2 > -Nathan > > (1) I have installed the new system onto the same computer I have specified in my previous message without any difficulty . I easily deleted effects of yesterday install and redefined hard disk partition easily . It is installed without any error message . The installed system booted successfully and worked very well . (2) I have tried =C2=B4Live CD=C2=B4 selection . It requested login name and password . Pressing Enter only did not allow login . Continuously asked user name and password for login . Only power switching could stop the computer . (3) If you please write your planned installation structure , perhaps we will b= e able to supply some , presumably useful , comments . Even useless comments may show other better alternatives . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 11:07:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CCA106564A for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B18F8FC2B for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0AB7CAF001905 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:07:12 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p0AB7CNG001903 for freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:07:12 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:07:12 GMT Message-Id: <201101101107.p0AB7CNG001903@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:07:12 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o bin/153809 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8): Choose Distributions screen, co o bin/151229 sysinstall sysinstall(8) - shift-tab doesn't work as expected o bin/150995 sysinstall sysinstall(8): corruption of partition table s bin/150237 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Suggestion: installer should suggest th o bin/148805 sysinstall [hang] FreeBSD 7.2, 8.0, and 9.0 hang during install a f bin/148220 sysinstall sysinstall(8): 9.0-current gets "Cannot resolv hostnam o bin/148201 sysinstall sysinstall(8): core dump (Error 10) while trying to in o bin/146299 sysinstall sysinstall(8): cannot create slice o bin/145735 sysinstall sysinstall(8) trashes Vista-created partition tables o bin/144278 sysinstall [install] Fixit from USB dont work o bin/142867 sysinstall sysinstall(8): in a custom installation re-entering th o bin/140843 sysinstall sysinstall(8): cannot software install from usb o bin/140842 sysinstall sysinstall(8): destroyed ncurses interface with FBSD8. o bin/138423 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Installer (and sade) get wrong number o o bin/137864 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8): add possibility to shutdown/pow o bin/137713 sysinstall sysinstall(8): installer partition editor generates in f bin/136161 sysinstall sysinstall(8) installs wrong architecture on amd64 o bin/129762 sysinstall sysinstall(8) doesn't seem to support GPT for EFI boar s bin/123304 sysinstall sysinstall(8): missing sensible and user friendly prog o bin/121503 sysinstall sysinstall(8): 7.0 upgrade doesn't let me mount all of o bin/119077 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8) - reading packages from index is o bin/113979 sysinstall [patch] sysinstall(8) does not support UFS1 filesystem o bin/112757 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall(8): in the FDISK tool we can o bin/108191 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Disklabel editor help text (by F1 key) o bin/107830 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Change Units (Z) in fdisk doesn't work o bin/102498 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Cursor doesn't track sysinstall hilight a bin/101762 sysinstall sysinstall(8) does not obey /usr/ports symlink while i o bin/97108 sysinstall sysinstall(8): write failure on transfer (wrote -1 byt o bin/93275 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Failure to install after restarting ins o bin/90656 sysinstall sysinstall(8): 6.0-RELEASE (i386) cannot be installed o bin/80371 sysinstall cannot install 5.4-RC3 from DOS partition o bin/79840 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Partitioning and formating a new disk f o bin/79621 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall(8) does not create a device o bin/78964 sysinstall sysinstall(8): can not write labels to hdd on installa f bin/73511 sysinstall sysinstall(8): SCSI drive install failure - RC2 o bin/73410 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Sysinstall could not allocate disklabel o bin/72895 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Sysinstall generates invalid partition o bin/70002 sysinstall sysinstall(8): fails to locate FTP dirs if the OS has o bin/69986 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [patch] no job control in fixit shell o o bin/69942 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall changes /etc/rc.conf after i o bin/69723 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [request] allow to continue from packag o bin/62702 sysinstall sysinstall(8): backup of /etc and /root during sysinst o alpha/61940 sysinstall sysinstall(8): Can't disklabel new disk from FreeBSD/a o bin/60632 sysinstall sysinstall(8): UI bug in partition label screen in sys o bin/59708 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [patch] add sSMTP support for Mail sele o bin/53341 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [patch] dump frequency in sysinstall is o bin/46905 sysinstall sysinstall(8): FreeBSD 5.x cannot be installed from mu o bin/41949 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall sorts /etc/rc.conf during ne o bin/41850 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall fails to create root filesys f bin/40260 sysinstall sysinstall(8): hang when detecting devices (No CD/DVD s conf/39580 sysinstall sysinstall(8): [request] more secure mount options o bin/38056 sysinstall sysinstall(8): User (creation)'s "Member groups" item a bin/32375 sysinstall sysinstall(8): sysinstall doesn't respect User generat s bin/7232 sysinstall sysinstall(8): suggestion for FreeBSD installation dia 54 problems total. From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 10 14:44:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CA2106566C for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.ross@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 552D58FC1E for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:44:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Jan 2011 14:44:39 -0000 Received: from dslb-178-003-179-034.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO michael-think) [178.3.179.34] by mail.gmx.net (mp025) with SMTP; 10 Jan 2011 15:44:39 +0100 X-Authenticated: #11429267 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18NKJAfYmANuEqjXhij2HWYxc0++PONGQ/EYtluuU of4RtmJWRHwzmr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Nathan Whitehorn" References: <4D28EB32.9090807@freebsd.org> <4D2949C5.2060001@freebsd.org> <4D2A1692.7040202@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:44:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4D2A1692.7040202@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.00 (Win32) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDInstall ISO images X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:44:43 -0000 Am 09.01.2011, 21:12 Uhr, schrieb Nathan Whitehorn : > > I think I've fixed all these problems (and the ones reported by Bruce > Cran and Joel Dahl), as well as adding some anti-foot-shooting measures. > Here's a new image, hopefully better: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110109.iso.bz2 > -Nathan Much better. Took me ages to find a breaking point. Still: Create da0s1a /dummy, da0s1b / Delete da0s1a Install -> OK Reboot into installer Edit da0s1b mount point to / Install -> OK Reboot into installer Edit da0s1b mount point to / Install -> OK Reboot into installer Edit da0s1b mount point to / Install -> "mount da0s1b: Operation not permitted" It doesn't always take 3 runs for the error to occur, though. On two occasions I managed to provoke "da0s1a: Input/Output error", the partiton editor afterwards showing the partition, but an empty field for its size. I'll try to figure out a reliable way to reproduce these tonight. Michael From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 14 18:26:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A09106566B; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.icecube.wisc.edu (trout.icecube.wisc.edu [128.104.255.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBB18FC0C; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B315811D; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:26:43 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at icecube.wisc.edu Received: from mail.icecube.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (trout.icecube.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id a711Llp8EjuG; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:26:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from wanderer.tachypleus.net (i3-dhcp-172-16-223-131.icecube.wisc.edu [172.16.223.131]) by mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6C35811A; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:26:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4D309563.1000404@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:26:43 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-current Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: BSDInstall: merging to HEAD X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:26:44 -0000 As those of you who have been reading freebsd-sysinstall and freebsd-arch know, I have been working for a few weeks on a lightweight new installer named 'bsdinstall'. This is designed to replace sysinstall for the 9.0 release. After two weeks of testing and bug fixes on the sysinstall list, I believe this now has all required functionality and is ready to be merged into the main source tree. I would like to do this on Tuesday, 18 January. Switching this to be the default installer would happen a few weeks after that, pending discussion on release formats with the release engineering team. This should provide a sufficient testing period before 9.0 and allow a maximal number of bugs to be discovered and solved before the release is shipped. Demo ISO for i386: http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110114.iso.bz2 SVN repository: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/user/nwhitehorn/bsdinstall Wiki page: http://wiki.freebsd.org/BSDInstall Goals ----- The primary goal of BSDInstall is to provide an easily extensible installer without the limitations of sysinstall, in order to allow more modern installations of FreeBSD. This means that it should have additional features to support modern setups, but simultaneously frees us to remove complicating features of sysinstall like making sure everything fits in floppy disk-sized chunks. New Features: - Allows installation onto GPT disks on x86 systems - Can do installations spanning multiple disks - Allows installation into jails - Eases PXE installation - Virtualization friendly: can install from a live system onto disk images - Works on PowerPC - Streamlined system installation - More flexible scripting - Easily tweakable - All install CDs are live CDs Architecture ------------ BSDInstall is a set of tools that are called in sequence by a master script. These tools are, for example, the partition editor, the thing that fetches the distributions from the network, the thing that untars them, etc. Since these are just called in sequence from a shell script, a scripted installation can easily replace them with other things, (e.g. hard-coded gpart commands), leave steps out, add new ones, or interleave additional system modifications. Status ------ This provides functionality most similar to the existing sysinstall 'Express' track. It installs working, bootable systems you can ssh into immediately after reboot on i386, amd64, sparc64, powerpc, and powerpc64. There is untested support for pc98. The final architecture on which we use sysinstall, ia64, is currently unsupported, because I don't know how to set up booting on those systems -- patches to solve this are very much welcome. There are still some missing features that I would like to see in the release, but these do not significantly impact the functionality of the installer. Some will be addressed before merging to HEAD, in particular the lack of a man page for bsdinstall. Others, like configuration of wireless networking and ZFS installation, can happen between merge and release. The test ISOs are also lacking a ports tree at the moment, which is a statement about the slow upload speed of my DSL line and not about the final layout of releases. Please send any questions, comments, or patches you may have, and please be aware when replying that this email has been cross-posted to three lists. Technical discussion (bug reports, for instance) should be directed to the freebsd-sysinstall list only. Most other discussion belongs on -sysinstall and -current. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 02:32:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34551065673; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 02:32:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout027.mac.com (asmtpout027.mac.com [17.148.16.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CA08FC15; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 02:32:04 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from sa-nc-common2-193.static.jnpr.net (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) by asmtp027.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-18.01 64bit (built Jul 15 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LF100LSRIVXJQ70@asmtp027.mac.com>; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:31:11 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-14_08:2011-01-14, 2011-01-14, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101140196 From: Marcel Moolenaar In-reply-to: <4D309563.1000404@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:31:08 -0800 Message-id: <7029F1A3-87A2-4203-840C-48B712EA70B8@mac.com> References: <4D309563.1000404@freebsd.org> To: Nathan Whitehorn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: freebsd-current Current , freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSDInstall: merging to HEAD X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 02:32:05 -0000 On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > The final architecture on which we use sysinstall, ia64, is currently unsupported, because I don't know how to set up booting on those systems -- patches to solve this are very much welcome. Don't let this stop you. I'll work with you on this after the dust has settled. FYI, -- Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 06:41:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D719106566B; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 06:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp1.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2165E8FC08; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 06:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl (nox-laptop.student.utwente.nl [130.89.160.140]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id p0F6U1TN005288; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 07:30:01 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: Nathan Whitehorn Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 07:30:00 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4D309563.1000404@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4D309563.1000404@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201101150730.01010.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact icts.servicedesk@utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDInstall: merging to HEAD X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 06:41:08 -0000 On Friday 14 January 2011 19:26:43 Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > Demo ISO for i386: > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110114.iso.bz2 Very cool stuff. I've tried it in VirtualBox and it worked well. I've identified the following issues: 1) The Partition Editor asks if you want to create a boot partition (if you create a partition with mountpoint /) even if one already exists. 2) The Partition Editor's confirmation dialog has two options "Don't Save" and "Cancel"; it is unclear what the difference between the two is. AFAICT "Don't Save" really means "Cancel installation", and "Cancel" really means "Re-edit" (I'm sure there's a better word for that). 3) These steps result in an error dialog: "Invalid argument size '0'" 1) Do a complete guided install on a 4GB disk 2) Restart installer and choose guided install 3) Select "partition" instead of "entire disk". 4) The Complete dialog doesn't say that it will reboot after pressing OK and gives you no oppertunity to remove the media, so the user will boot straight back into the installer (depends on bios settings). 5) Pressing cancel in the NIC setup dialog doesn't cancel the installation but continues it without configuring a NIC. Perhaps this could be clarified in the dialog text. Also, will the complete installer contain & install a copy of /usr/src? -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 15 15:50:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10432106564A for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.icecube.wisc.edu (trout.icecube.wisc.edu [128.104.255.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D898FC08 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF46F5811D; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:50:04 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at icecube.wisc.edu Received: from mail.icecube.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (trout.icecube.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id 2jbWSEWxezcG; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:50:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (unknown [76.208.68.88]) by mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7200C5811A; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:50:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4D31C22B.8040906@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:50:03 -0600 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101214 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pieter de Goeje References: <4D309563.1000404@freebsd.org> <201101150730.01010.pieter@degoeje.nl> In-Reply-To: <201101150730.01010.pieter@degoeje.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDInstall: merging to HEAD X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:50:06 -0000 On 01/15/11 00:30, Pieter de Goeje wrote: > On Friday 14 January 2011 19:26:43 Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >> Demo ISO for i386: >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/bsdinstall-i386-20110114.iso.bz2 > Very cool stuff. I've tried it in VirtualBox and it worked well. Thanks! > I've identified the following issues: > > 1) The Partition Editor asks if you want to create a boot partition (if you > create a partition with mountpoint /) even if one already exists. This is a tricky issue to handle correctly. There may already be a partition with type freebsd-boot, it's true, but there is no guarantee that it has had the bootloader installed. The compromise I hit on was having it ask. > 2) The Partition Editor's confirmation dialog has two options "Don't Save" > and "Cancel"; it is unclear what the difference between the two is. > AFAICT "Don't Save" really means "Cancel installation", and "Cancel" really > means "Re-edit" (I'm sure there's a better word for that). How abort renaming "Don't Save" to "Abort?" > 3) These steps result in an error dialog: "Invalid argument size '0'" > 1) Do a complete guided install on a 4GB disk > 2) Restart installer and choose guided install > 3) Select "partition" instead of "entire disk". Ah, I'll add a check for the too little free space case. The way "Partition" works is that it adds new FreeBSD partitions to the disk in the available space, and it breaks if there is not any. This is easily fixed. > 4) The Complete dialog doesn't say that it will reboot after pressing OK and > gives you no oppertunity to remove the media, so the user will boot straight > back into the installer (depends on bios settings). The first issue is easy to fix. The second is a little tricky to do in the context of booting from a live CD. You can't remove the media while the kernel is running because it's the root filesystem. I'm not sure what the best solution is. > 5) Pressing cancel in the NIC setup dialog doesn't cancel the installation but > continues it without configuring a NIC. Perhaps this could be clarified in > the dialog text. There are several steps like this. The add user, services, keymap, tzsetup, and root password screens can also be canceled (by design). I'm not sure what the optimal way to signal this to the user is. Beat Gaetzi has suggested renaming cancel buttons on cancelable parts of the installation to "Skip". The dialog title text could have have (optional) appended to it or something. The way I had tried to do it is that things that cannot be safely canceled (mostly) don't have cancel buttons right now. > Also, will the complete installer contain& install a copy of /usr/src? Likely. This is the kind of thing I alluded to in the original email as a discussion about the release format that we will need to have after this is merged and before unhooking sysinstall. Other things are how much we want to componentize world -- right now the CDs I put up have a single, monolithic "world" distribution, but we could also have a base world + games + lib32 (amd64/powerpc64) + profiled libs + ... the way sysinstall does. I expect there will be some iterations of the release layout before 9.0. -Nathan