From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 17 16:45:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB03F1065743 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53B1E8FC18 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm26.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2012 16:45:18 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.219] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2012 16:45:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2012 16:45:18 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 256889.32454.bm@omp1028.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 79258 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jun 2012 16:45:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1339951518; bh=KLLmZZGauvsox69dcxRaMQACZOYFJqIJ+Me6KTKQ/i4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aUisLWPdeyUxESk98vLcU9BANhOZixAcjWGt4bHZwY41poVVw5dFPzMTuyQkBW5i2rF9c4Ew48QEONHWV4KDjkFGBURBgVpZEzknwLcbvxmBp5oelvA7aDyqs5Ld9Pv+5R3ipx2P3/M8vFet679UvHQ7k3Irwfvd0uUCn4CedbM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lAhhmdPCNiUvwGR8MVO/F7ali3KwD1tc5aikPTu4OCOBBPAl47B4VFnvZSiECh0cvKQIg8ZbZXhd20X96ldnzndRO5nPlRsrR56DmbOnHaiFvHFrJKCJM82XupG9/9GHAzGclYqj88TLFRuoiyLi0L7UsG8uhCCMXM9FtAN84NU=; X-YMail-OSG: S01pD9IVM1l5l7MxHAUZeAxFVZzVJinRrocnvLf0Ef4jBp3 reku52.mc495aN9ldAL53HKSjWe72L05UpZ6vqZplT39DO21JH3D.WFXrzyS OYJrba60hSBvqZ1BJ7UcqZIPfKxBHGCLm9jSjWKb4QRCpH3ObtzL7ZNcIaap iSLArCZTC8VdCBouOtSyELGkvebXljG._q8_CQpwaTKuCvgz5VPu7YhcQ2Ks i4WWlw5O3WXGf83QG8NiJYRhc8PtdUqcSUqUWnOv0LqegoXrhbuDeh3y3doo VkKhEd5FtGWrUjJc44V7oS.qeeZLK.8E4qOmBUZE1r6Ccidj3MwDTMWyQleh m3Md398oznB60hOaR9Wmn0coSKUrMNb0I_VlS8WQSOYX6myGInqXZkITs84g C5G2LhYxYq1zE0PSXLSYjaLUUTH1R0n5B.V7wGFV8Jp1vN7bIv_OkBvGhebD iJLRD2db57jMWsXFuAEHw_45m Received: from [112.135.193.13] by web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:45:17 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.118.349524 Message-ID: <1339951517.50511.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:45:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: "freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [ffmpeg-dev/FreeBSD 9.0] avcodec_encode_video2() develops Bus error X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Unga List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:45:24 -0000 Hi all I'm running ffmpeg-dev (ffmpeg version 0.10.2.git-8f89954) on FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE on i386. The avcodec_encode_video2() develops following error: Bus error (core dumped) On /var/log/message kernel records following message: kernel: pid 1301 (doc_examples_decodi), uid 1001: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) The ffmpeg command line transcoding from h.264/mp4 to vp8/webm works fine. Any help to identify and fix this error is very much appreciated. Best regards Unga From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 18 01:31:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037A6106566B for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 01:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@engineer.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A80A8FC0C for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 01:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2714 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jun 2012 01:31:18 -0000 Received: from 67.206.185.231 by rms-us002.v300.gmx.net with HTTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:31:16 -0400 From: "Dieter BSD" Message-ID: <20120618013118.303420@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #74169980 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer x-registered: 0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: seGsb+IX3zOlNR3dAHAh3SJ+IGRvb4CJ Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to turn my computer into a TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 01:31:25 -0000 [ Added multimedia@ as that is a more appropriate list than hackers ] > I just moved into a very cramped apartment > we are using a broadcast signal only [current US {NYC} standards] You'll need to know if you have any NTSC (analog) stations you care about or if everything is ATSC (digital).  Hopefully your building has a good antenna system. Next, select your tuner(s).  You have a choice of tuners that connect via Ethernet (HDHomeRun, pros: small external box, doesn't need a slot, works with any OS, better diagnostic info than others. cons: I've seen a *lot* of postings with people saying that various other tuners get better reception, digital only no NTSC analog), Firewire (if they are still available?), USB, PCIe cards (needs a slot), PCI cards (needs a slot). Some cards also do FM radio. > 2. What ports to install Depends on what tuner(s) you select. Cards based on cx88 need multimedia/cx88 and multimedia/libtuner http://corona.homeunix.net/cx88wiki has a list of supported cards. Some cards are supported by bktr(4). Make sure the tuner you select is supported by FreeBSD. Recording ATSC takes very little CPU.  Recording NTSC takes either a lot of CPU or hardware compression.  Decoding either takes a lot of CPU (or hardware decoding which AFAIK FreeBSD doesn't have). You can use at(1) for automated recordings.  A full ATSC channel is 19.3 Mbps. Some tuners allow filtering by PID, which saves disk space. For playback you can use mplayer or any of several similar programs. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 18 11:07:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0EC7106566B for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:07:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1CC8FC12 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5IB7rXa008057 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:07:53 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q5IB7rHR008055 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:07:53 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:07:53 GMT Message-Id: <201206181107.q5IB7rHR008055@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:07:54 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o ports/168896 multimedia [patch] audio/wavpack doesn't build with clang 3.1 o ports/165090 multimedia audio/faad missing head files o kern/162181 multimedia [snd_emu10k1] [patch] The kernel sound driver module s o ports/161783 multimedia [PATCH] multimedia/gpac-libgpac: Fix build with gcc46 o ports/161568 multimedia [PATCH] audio/libsamplerate: samplerate.h has comma at o ports/161546 multimedia [PATCH] multimedia/mkvtoolnix: make some dependencies o kern/159236 multimedia [pcm] [patch] set PCM_CAP_DEFAULT for the default snd o ports/158987 multimedia multimedia/py-kaa-multimedia: fix build error for grap o kern/158979 multimedia [snd_uadio] snd_uaudio fails to initialize built-in mi o kern/158542 multimedia [snd_hda] hdac0: hdac_get_capabilities: Invalid corb s f kern/158424 multimedia [snd_hda] snd_hda driver doesn't expose 'rec' flag for o stand/157050 multimedia OSS implementation lacks AFMT_FLOAT o kern/156726 multimedia [snd_uaudio]: snd_uaudio(4) fails to detach when mixer o kern/156198 multimedia [snd_hda] [hang] loading snd_hda kernel module hangs s o kern/156165 multimedia [hdac] Missing card definition for hdac audio device, o ports/153846 multimedia graphics/libcaca 0.99.beta17 - Hidden dependency on Xl o kern/152622 multimedia [pcm] uaudio recording problem o kern/152500 multimedia [hdac] play interrupt timeout, channel dead o kern/152378 multimedia [sound][patch] Update snd_envy24ht to be MPSAFE and us f ports/150502 multimedia multimedia/gpac-libgpac 0.4.5_4,1 fails to compile on o kern/150284 multimedia [snd_hda] No gain with Audio o kern/149943 multimedia [pcm]: CS4236 audio problem o kern/148741 multimedia [sound] Headphones are deaf (do not work) on Lenovo Th o kern/147504 multimedia [oss] [panic] panic: dev_pager_getpage: map function r o kern/146031 multimedia [snd_hda] race condition when kldunload snd_hda sound o kern/144659 multimedia [pcm] The distortion of the sound playback of music at o kern/143505 multimedia [pcm] FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE (x64) won't make sound card o kern/141826 multimedia [snd_hda] load of snd_hda module fails o kern/140591 multimedia [PATCH][sound] No sound output on lineout/headphone ja o kern/137589 multimedia [snd_uaudio] snd_uaudio.ko (USB audio driver) doesn't o kern/134767 multimedia [sound] [snd_hda] [regression] Sigmatel STAC9205X no s o kern/132848 multimedia [sound] [snd_emu10kx] driver problem with card init, s o kern/132511 multimedia [sound] [snd_hda] Probing ALC888 codec on ASRock K10N7 o kern/129604 multimedia [sound] Sound stops with error: pcm0:virtual:dsp0.vp0: o kern/127131 multimedia [bktr] /usr/src/sys/dev/bktr/bktr_os.c, line 469: wron s kern/125756 multimedia [sound] [patch] cannot detect soft-modem on HDA bus o kern/124319 multimedia [sound] [snd_emu10k1] [regression] Cannot record from o kern/122086 multimedia [sound] maestro sound driver is working, but mixer ini p kern/121156 multimedia [sound] [patch] Turn on inverted external amplifier se o kern/120857 multimedia [sound] [snd_emu10k1] snd_emu10k1 driver issues a warn o kern/120780 multimedia [sound] [snd_hda] snd_hda doesn't work on Dell Latitut o kern/119973 multimedia [sound] [snd_maestro] [regression] snd_maestro only wo o kern/119931 multimedia [sound] No sound card detected on ASUS "K8V-X SE R2.00 o kern/119759 multimedia [sound] [snd_emu10k1] [regression] Can not record anyt o kern/115300 multimedia [sound] [snd_hda] [regression] snd_hda(4) fails to att o kern/114760 multimedia [sound] [snd_cmi] snd_cmi driver causing sporadic syst o kern/111767 multimedia [sound] ATI SB450 High Definition Audio Controller sou o kern/107516 multimedia [sound] [snd_emu10k1] - skips, clicks and lag after a o kern/107051 multimedia [sound] only 2 channels output works for the ALC850 (o o kern/104874 multimedia [sound] [snd_emu10k1] kldload snd_emu10k1 hangs system o kern/101417 multimedia [sound] 4-speakers output not possible on Asus A8V-Del o kern/100859 multimedia [sound] [snd_ich] snd_ich broken on GIGABYTE 915 syste o kern/98752 multimedia [sound] Intel ich6 82801 FB - on Packard Bell A8810 la o kern/98504 multimedia [sound] Sound is distorted with SB Live 5.1 o kern/98496 multimedia [sound] [snd_ich] some functions don't work in my soun o kern/97609 multimedia [sound] Load Sound Module - VIA8233 - fails o kern/97535 multimedia [sound] [snd_mss] doesn't work in 6.0-RELEASE and abov o kern/96538 multimedia [sound] emu10k1-driver inverts channels o kern/95086 multimedia [sound] uaudio line in problem with sbdm lx o kern/94279 multimedia [sound] [snd_neomagic] snd_neomagic crashes on FreeBSD o kern/93986 multimedia [sound] Acer TravelMate 4652LMi pcm0 channel dead o kern/92512 multimedia [sound] distorted mono output with emu10k1 o kern/87782 multimedia [sound] snd_t4dwave and pcm0:record:0: record interrup o kern/82043 multimedia [sound] snd_emu10k1 - mixer does not work. o kern/81146 multimedia [sound] Sound isn't working AT ALL for Sis7012 onboard o kern/80632 multimedia [sound] pcm driver missing support for CMI8738 auxilla o kern/79912 multimedia [sound] sound broken for 2 VIA chipsets: interrupt sto o kern/79905 multimedia [sound] sis7018 sound module problem o kern/79678 multimedia [sound] sound works except recording from any source o conf/75137 multimedia [sound] add snd_* modules support to /etc/rc.d/mixer f kern/72995 multimedia [sound] Intel ICH2 (82801BA) - sound nearly inaudible o kern/63204 multimedia [sound] /dev/mixer broken with ESS Maestro-2E (still o o kern/60677 multimedia [sound] [patch] No reaction of volume controy key on I s kern/60599 multimedia [bktr] [partial patch] No sound for ATI TV Wonder (ste o kern/37600 multimedia [sound] [partial patch] t4dwave drive doesn't record. o kern/23546 multimedia [sound] [snd_csa] [patch] csa DMA-interrupt problem 76 problems total. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 18 15:19:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060FC106564A; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8918FC17; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5IFJ2ca037055; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:19:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5IFIv0V037052; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:19:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:18:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Dieter BSD In-Reply-To: <20120618013118.303420@gmx.com> Message-ID: References: <20120618013118.303420@gmx.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2456600518-1686271342-1340032742=:37038" X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:19:08 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to turn my computer into a TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:19:54 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2456600518-1686271342-1340032742=:37038 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT > a lot of CPU or hardware compression.  Decoding either takes a lot of CPU > (or hardware decoding which AFAIK FreeBSD doesn't have). You can use watching SDTV movie takes very little part of one core of any modern CPU including intel atom. encoding SDTV will take more but still not much. watching HDTV should work on almost ANY modern PC CPU, including dual core/quad thread atom D525+included graphics, but with no other load as it will be close to saturating all cores/threads. most people vastly underestimate power of modern CPUs. --2456600518-1686271342-1340032742=:37038-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 18 15:59:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD74106566B; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from user.vdr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B458FC0C; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhgm50 with SMTP id m50so4535567yhg.13 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:59:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Fy1Gapl0KXZZba86BpZpcVRhYb073AIJXljPmv7GbLQ=; b=D7inYqOoUcKw1omOWuHTPtyJZ/VFVnd2PjYpkU/JRh4eyb1gB2X4IAe+30bMqpWxXr O4hSwUrl2FNkGLmQWvQVg+A1EJAlBB56msqDs4y/vqxTMoZ+4vi5rh6Bs8cT7FDjexG/ jRhrQkXt7Xadyp+o4JLL/E2lr8TQAnEk0iart9awkDOd1A5r8Ldf9YoL4ExaLOzKHR6P ofs35g6M0REAOBw+a+xTGxW1y1h8y/IrCLOBQg0TZJmEe1TVW+AOTCcyl22WgXQYOX5m Mwlo98eAslJ7yuLzX1LyBWzLD+Y9RNTTJyJT52TtOZNcItib9xC80ZcKw4bpk8VVfger r05Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.106.136 with SMTP id gu8mr9078314igb.23.1340035176923; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.189.201 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:59:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120618013118.303420@gmx.com> References: <20120618013118.303420@gmx.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:59:36 -0700 Message-ID: From: VDR User To: Dieter BSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to turn my computer into a TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:59:43 -0000 On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Dieter BSD wrote: > [ Added multimedia@ as that is a more appropriate list than hackers ] > >> I just moved into a very cramped apartment >> we are using a broadcast signal only [current US {NYC} standards] > > Recording ATSC takes very little CPU. =C2=A0Recording NTSC takes either > a lot of CPU or hardware compression. =C2=A0Decoding either takes a lot o= f CPU > (or hardware decoding which AFAIK FreeBSD doesn't have). You can use > at(1) for automated recordings. =C2=A0A full ATSC channel is 19.3 Mbps. > Some tuners allow filtering by PID, which saves disk space. Recording doesn't require any compression unless you are transcoding in real-time. There's no difference between recording ATSC, NTSC, PAL, etc, and it's actually irrelevant what the stream is. The broadcast streams are digital so when you "record" them, you are actually just saving the stream to some type of media (usually a harddrive). It's like saving a file where the file contents is audio/video, and it takes however long your show/timer/etc is. The only impact on the cpu is the same impact you have when you save any big file -- very little on any modern cpu. Lastly, it's possible to save a single channel or the entire stream which usually contains several channels. Even when saving the full stream, it likely uses far less bandwidth than your media offers so there's no problem there. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 18 17:21:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9C410656AB for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@engineer.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D0628FC12 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:21:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31173 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jun 2012 17:21:47 -0000 Received: from 67.206.186.186 by rms-us009.v300.gmx.net with HTTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:21:43 -0400 From: "Dieter BSD" Message-ID: <20120618172144.303410@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #74169980 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer x-registered: 0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: /watb+EX3zOlNR3dAHAhC/N+IGRvbwAm Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to turn my computer into a TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:21:49 -0000 user.vdr writes: > Recording doesn't require any compression unless you are transcoding > in real-time. There's no difference between recording ATSC, NTSC, PAL, > etc, and it's actually irrelevant what the stream is. This is incorrect.  ATSC is compressed before broadcast, so you receive the data already compresed.  NTSC and PAL are broadcast in analog.  The tuner performs A-to-D which gives an uncompressed data stream.  Have fun trying to store that. As a practical matter, you have to compress the data in real time. Some, not all, tuners include hardware compression. > Lastly, it's possible to save a single channel or the entire stream > which usually contains several channels. Even when saving the full > stream, it likely uses far less bandwidth than your media offers so > there's no problem there. This appariently refers to ATSC.  Yes, modern disks have plenty of bandwidth to store the entire ATSC stream.  The main reason to filter PIDs is to save disk *space*.  Also, some software can't select which program to decode. Wojciech writes: > most people vastly underestimate power of modern CPUs. Many people overestimate the "moderness" of most people's CPUs. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 18 17:22:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823A010656D1 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@engineer.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 500588FC0A for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:22:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2783 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jun 2012 17:22:23 -0000 Received: from 67.206.186.186 by rms-us007.v300.gmx.net with HTTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:22:19 -0400 From: "Dieter BSD" Message-ID: <20120618172221.303410@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #74169980 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer x-registered: 0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: mgatb+EX3zOlNR3dAHAh7fN+IGRvb8CM Subject: Re: ffmpeg Bus error X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:22:24 -0000 > Bus error (core dumped) Method 1: Find or create a small input file that triggers the bug, submit it to the developers and hope they fix it. Method 2: Recompile with -g, run it under a debugger (gdb or similar), get a stack backtrack.  Find the source code that is causing the error and fix it.  Submit a patch to the developers. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 18 18:22:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3C6106566B; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from user.vdr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705A48FC0C; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz22 with SMTP id z22so4542005ghb.13 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:22:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XBl0VTnm5U8RucdQJOBT3a9noH2XT2ahcyN6+5P3Uc0=; b=XFf9ODtOE8duA1fpfvhzDwkpYgBOj8x7VhEvYK8GwQqcUOOUwtH4pEYRv4WxNaA4er DgKQ9eCYJKyX+pbFh+p+4OkTPHDq4O4Gd9Wwt1+ysoqGq5cKZXMUV4GF++DlSuJyCdKt ytfZ1/OtqtgLM13tU992w3n6Sl9e9vEO3VJ4nPaBSF9+hcW/sIX03OCU3TMJ3pa09npw rONWAiP4WMgLB9Ruy6FMO4f54huWixkDklB4XWd3TxcPbVo74KcnhUrzVd5t060DeGFT k33MKpWQ3bnDCoSTbyGEmMrRfHs7XQOPEP4m4ubc/KuBMaVsna+imJK0cwn22LHzBzm2 34GA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.100.169 with SMTP id ez9mr9362807igb.44.1340043728827; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.189.201 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:22:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120618172144.303410@gmx.com> References: <20120618172144.303410@gmx.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:22:08 -0700 Message-ID: From: VDR User To: Dieter BSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to turn my computer into a TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:22:11 -0000 On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Dieter BSD wrote= : > user.vdr writes: >> Recording doesn't require any compression unless you are transcoding >> in real-time. There's no difference between recording ATSC, NTSC, PAL, >> etc, and it's actually irrelevant what the stream is. > > This is incorrect. =C2=A0ATSC is compressed before broadcast, so > you receive the data already compresed. =C2=A0NTSC and PAL are > broadcast in analog. =C2=A0The tuner performs A-to-D which gives > an uncompressed data stream. =C2=A0Have fun trying to store that. > As a practical matter, you have to compress the data in real time. > Some, not all, tuners include hardware compression. All consumer digital broadcasts are compressed typically with mpeg2 or mpeg= 4. With very very very few exceptions, all analog NTSC broadcasts have been switched to digital, by the FCC mandated deadline of June 12, 2009. Tuners perform demodulation, not decompression. There are a few "premium" or "full-featured" devices which have an on-board decoder such as a Hauppauge Nexus-s or the TechnoTrend S2-6400. You absolutely do NOT have to reencode a stream unless you want to alter the resolution, bitrate, or compression method. Tuners do NOT provide raw audio/video to the system in any case. >> Lastly, it's possible to save a single channel or the entire stream >> which usually contains several channels. Even when saving the full >> stream, it likely uses far less bandwidth than your media offers so >> there's no problem there. > > This appariently refers to ATSC. =C2=A0Yes, modern disks have plenty > of bandwidth to store the entire ATSC stream. =C2=A0The main reason > to filter PIDs is to save disk *space*. =C2=A0Also, some software > can't select which program to decode. It refers to ANY multiplex. Again, the standard used for broadcast is irrelevant. Also, any program that can tune a channel has the ability to filter the pids, otherwise it would be impossible to tune a channel. > Wojciech writes: >> most people vastly underestimate power of modern CPUs. > > Many people overestimate the "moderness" of most people's CPUs. An old Pentium 4 3ghz can decode HD with plenty of cpu resources to spare so unless a person using something older than that, they've certainly got "modern" cpu power. 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[74.140.201.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fx5sm27118028qab.14.2012.06.18.12.29.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:29:56 -0400 From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120618152956.79c6223e@bhuda.mired.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20120618172144.303410@gmx.com> Organization: Meyer Consulting X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlJ6jaFN3HT9QWG1rMvfaCnjIPmXHRXKyCRD7U5hjza8fKGgBTDaKIXXRqx3QO1CZzjIy2M Subject: Re: how to turn my computer into a TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:30:01 -0000 On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:22:08 -0700 VDR User wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Dieter BSD wro= te: > > user.vdr writes: > >> Recording doesn't require any compression unless you are transcoding > >> in real-time. There's no difference between recording ATSC, NTSC, PAL, > >> etc, and it's actually irrelevant what the stream is. > > This is incorrect. =C2=A0ATSC is compressed before broadcast, so > > you receive the data already compresed. =C2=A0NTSC and PAL are > > broadcast in analog. =C2=A0The tuner performs A-to-D which gives > > an uncompressed data stream. =C2=A0Have fun trying to store that. > > As a practical matter, you have to compress the data in real time. > > Some, not all, tuners include hardware compression. > All consumer digital broadcasts are compressed typically with mpeg2 or mp= eg4. > With very very very few exceptions, all analog NTSC broadcasts have > been switched to digital, by the FCC mandated deadline of June 12, > 2009. A note of clarification: NTSC broadcasts are analog. When stations switched to digital, they switched to ATSC. So - with very very very few exceptions, there are no longer any consumer analog broadcasts in the US. With that clarification, what you're saying is true, but 1) only applies in the US (though I expect things are similar in other countries), and 2) only applies to *broadcast* signals. Both of these are true for what the OP is watching, but not necessarily for everyone. In particular, a large percentage of the population gets their TV from a cable, which is *not* a broadcast signal, and thus can include analog NTSC signals. Of course, they don't carry ATSC, either (they get QAM in the US, so if you want to receive those, you'll need a QAM capable tuner). The rules regarding when, how, and who can switch are as arcane as you'd expect. As an aside, if you're getting your TV via cable (or a dish), the signal broadcast by your local stations are probably better quality. Personally, I use Hulu Plus as my TV provider. This is *the* most cost-effective way to watch TV on your computer. No extra hardware needed, not worrying about cruft like NTSC/ATSC/etc, you can watch it at your convenience, etc. All for an order of magnitude less than I was paying for DirecTV. http://www.mired.org/ Independent Software developer/SCM consultant, email for more information. O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 19 02:07:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F1D1065673 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jason@wohlford.org) Received: from montgomery.al (wohlfordcompany.com [184.106.215.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5D48FC12 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:07:41 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=wohlford.org; s=mail; t=1340071221; bh=XFn+MP8pHE2F4jz0ebjXD/kNTnIyedrJAJszKJRcKw8=; h=From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:Date: Message-Id:To:Mime-Version; b=Iyz4EtlT712VfUqhWW6v99abzaG7impRCYboh8peawY8Oj5eRXXWrgV5an2MAqozx ssTb1bEYU5UF7LkVdj2hnXbDvp4hELXG7GZy6G2jvr++LGXC3rrcn8bz2mddZzvNxq rs3YPOrP2/xMpj7cnm90ZvXFZ+gjivgMVOmrO+h8= From: Jason Wohlford Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:00:19 -0500 Message-Id: To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: mythweb X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:07:42 -0000 I've been struggling with mythweb for a bit. It was working; now it's = not. It's been that way for at least a month. Can't tell if this is = something I induced or if it's a bug. Help me out, folks. The error in the browser I'm getting is: Fatal error: Class 'MythBase' not found in = /s/usr-local/www/mythweb/classes/Translate.php on line 16 I look for a MythBase, but only find pointers. [root@mythtv /usr/local/www/mythweb]# grep -Ri MythBase . ./classes/Translate.php:class Translate extends MythBase { ./modules/tv/classes/Channel.php:class Channel extends MythBase { ./modules/tv/classes/Program.php:class Program extends MythBase { ./modules/tv/classes/Schedule.php:class Schedule extends MythBase { grep: ./data/video_covers: No such file or directory grep: ./data/video: No such file or directory [root@mythtv /usr/local/www/mythweb]#=20 Googling to the error leads me to a page that mentions bindings, but I = couldn't find any such files even with a comprehensive 'find / -name = bindings'. Compiling Common Binaries For Multiple Frontends = Suggestions? Cheers, Jason --=20 Jason Wohlford @wohlford From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 19 06:18:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B37106566B for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@getmail.no) Received: from smtp.getmail.no (smtp.getmail.no [84.208.15.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5F38FC15 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:18:06 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Received: from get-mta-scan02.get.basefarm.net ([10.5.16.4]) by get-mta-out01.get.basefarm.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-0.04 64bit (built Jun 20 2008)) with ESMTP id <0M5U00GIXPI4LH30@get-mta-out01.get.basefarm.net> for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:18:04 +0200 (MEST) Received: from get-mta-scan02.get.basefarm.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id 696861EA81E1_FE0199CB for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:18:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kg-v2.kg4.no (cm-84.215.134.159.getinternet.no [84.215.134.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by get-mta-scan02.get.basefarm.net (Sophos Email Appliance) with ESMTPSA id 2D5151EACB8C_FE0199CF for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:18:04 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:18:04 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <20120619081804.bd1aff4c.torfinn.ingolfsen@getmail.no> In-reply-to: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.4 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Cc: Subject: Re: mythweb X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:18:06 -0000 On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 21:00:19 -0500 Jason Wohlford wrote: > I've been struggling with mythweb for a bit. It was working; now it's not. It's been that way for at least a month. Can't tell if this is something I induced or if it's a bug. Help me out, folks. Based on your description, I guess it is something you did. Now tell us what you did to that machine in order to break it. Did you upgrade any ports? php perhaps? Does php in general still work? (phpinfo() would tell) > Fatal error: Class 'MythBase' not found in /s/usr-local/www/mythweb/classes/Translate.php on line 16 Did you put MythWeb on a different machine than the MythTV backend? > > Googling to the error leads me to a page that mentions bindings, but I couldn't find any such files even with a comprehensive 'find / -name bindings'. In general, "bindings" in this type of context means that an application (MythTV for example) or a language (php for example) is compiled with support for something. Example: MythTV has bindings for php (probably not the best example), and php has bindings for a database (MySQL), etc. So looking for files or directories with the name "bindings" isn't going to help much. Did you look at the web server error log (Apache I guess)? Any clues in there? HTH -- Torfinn Ingolfsen From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 19 06:24:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DC7106564A; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ahicks@p-o.co.uk) Received: from mail.p-o.co.uk (ligeti.p-o.co.uk [80.254.233.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FA08FC08; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:24:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alanhicks.plus.com ([80.229.143.200] helo=schnittke.p-o.co.uk) by p-o.co.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SgrU3-000A7x-3B; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 07:00:14 +0100 Message-ID: <4FE01562.1080404@p-o.co.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 07:00:02 +0100 From: Alan Hicks Organization: Persistent Objects Ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120612 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000405020509000902050108" X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) Cc: decke@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mythweb X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:24:34 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000405020509000902050108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 19/06/2012 03:00, Jason Wohlford wrote: > I've been struggling with mythweb for a bit. It was working; now it's not. It's been that way for at least a month. Can't tell if this is something I induced or if it's a bug. Help me out, folks. > > The error in the browser I'm getting is: > > Fatal error: Class 'MythBase' not found in /s/usr-local/www/mythweb/classes/Translate.php on line 16 > > I look for a MythBase, but only find pointers. > > [root@mythtv /usr/local/www/mythweb]# grep -Ri MythBase . > ./classes/Translate.php:class Translate extends MythBase { > ./modules/tv/classes/Channel.php:class Channel extends MythBase { > ./modules/tv/classes/Program.php:class Program extends MythBase { > ./modules/tv/classes/Schedule.php:class Schedule extends MythBase { > grep: ./data/video_covers: No such file or directory > grep: ./data/video: No such file or directory > [root@mythtv /usr/local/www/mythweb]# > > Googling to the error leads me to a page that mentions bindings, but I couldn't find any such files even with a comprehensive 'find / -name bindings'. > > Compiling Common Binaries For Multiple Frontends > > > Suggestions? You are probably missing the bindings from multimedia/mythtv /usr/local/share/mythtv/bindings/php/MythBase.php The port may need to be patched as bindings appear to be always off, alas not had time to offer patch for pkg-plist. Alan > > Cheers, > Jason > --------------000405020509000902050108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; name="mythtv.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mythtv.patch" LS0tIE1ha2VmaWxlLm9yaWcJMjAxMi0wNi0xOSAwNjo0NTowMi4wMDAwMDAwMDAgKzAxMDAK KysrIE1ha2VmaWxlCTIwMTItMDYtMTkgMDY6NDY6MTcuMDAwMDAwMDAwICswMTAwCkBAIC03 OSw3ICs3OSw2IEBACiBSVU5fREVQRU5EUys9CXB5Ki1seG1sPj0wOiR7UE9SVFNESVJ9L2Rl dmVsL3B5LWx4bWwgXAogCQkke1BZVEhPTl9QS0dOQU1FUFJFRklYfU15U1FMZGI+PTEuMi4y OiR7UE9SVFNESVJ9L2RhdGFiYXNlcy9weS1NeVNRTGRiIFwKIAkJJHtQWVRIT05fUEtHTkFN RVBSRUZJWH11cmxncmFiYmVyPj0zLjEuMF8xOiR7UE9SVFNESVJ9L3d3dy9weS11cmxncmFi YmVyCi1DT05GSUdVUkVfQVJHUys9LS13aXRob3V0LWJpbmRpbmdzPXBlcmwscGhwCiBQTElT VF9TVUIrPQlCSU5ESU5HUz0iIgogLmVsc2UKIENPTkZJR1VSRV9BUkdTKz0tLXdpdGhvdXQt YmluZGluZ3M9cGVybCxweXRob24scGhwCg== --------------000405020509000902050108-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 19 06:56:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B7D1065675; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:56:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED47A8FC1F; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5J6ufeb005627; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:56:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5J6ueox005624; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:56:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:56:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: VDR User In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20120618172144.303410@gmx.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:56:41 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Dieter BSD Subject: Re: how to turn my computer into a TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 06:56:48 -0000 > > An old Pentium 4 3ghz can decode HD with plenty of cpu resources to > spare so unless a person using something older than that, they've > certainly got "modern" cpu power. actually even intel atom D525 is OK if decoder can be multithreaded. As for analog streams older PCI based TV cards are still useful for converting VHS tapes. realtime encoding of PAL/SECAM input is too - trivial for todays CPU. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 19 15:33:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3D11065676; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from user.vdr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEA28FC1B; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so5659989yen.13 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:33:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JUo1BtGMHnSNvTguLNgSDHEH2zCf2ODC2pXrepDg/xk=; b=TvVhMJMEqnzz4SeWUo3mbm1XUAMdDhEzfkiFBNq41VJVbJe3ts7nWx8ANHsaxqojcO svYD8ph2eGuxImbE926pygFetabXZseBsTQ7h57L0OzR3Sabgj99r+2aoDRc3n7f9RaP vw36ovcJbc+TfB5Gpwds2/RrakJvlI0CrvE3xVRWqXZe/MLEdwNEZI10O9DFHwM+f+Uz RR+CX+yTSmBTd4wCrOO25r5FFa4rQa3bIBNs82pur9Z7l4GXZYH874qyFgpNz/nhB+Ih gICXFh4iz9xGiVq3O3FLWtaK1BuT3qdaoVP3j9xQx8an0iINUSQpaqs7D0geV+LoB+5z mdXg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.189.138 with SMTP id de10mr8132565icb.38.1340120011390; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.189.201 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:33:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120618172144.303410@gmx.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:33:31 -0700 Message-ID: From: VDR User To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Dieter BSD Subject: Re: how to turn my computer into a TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:33:37 -0000 On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> An old Pentium 4 3ghz can decode HD with plenty of cpu resources to >> spare so unless a person using something older than that, they've >> certainly got "modern" cpu power. > > actually even intel atom D525 is OK if decoder can be multithreaded. I have a few Atom systems but they all use vdpau for decoding and I never bothered to see how just the Atom holds up on it's own for decoding. :) From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 19 16:42:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59060106564A; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jason@wohlford.org) Received: from montgomery.al (wohlfordcompany.com [184.106.215.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B36A8FC15; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:42:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=wohlford.org; s=mail; t=1340124140; bh=iwzLF7U/UeMy7ky9RvB5AeK05RD8GsplodIeyltNoUA=; h=Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To; b=Hb4HCjK45a76HQU5eO2W43taAcPXDMtyZE5OSLe6FjLkPHk+ZOuONe/1Rfwsk3KkJ HfKNjFu9z7QSyhfkEZe1+khHbDwya/4B8F/we3kJAGxDkRR9VtNELMpgpm4Hy4kjku FmukQz2uxru0sKL2B4Pyp6SUTrWNWbcUrcKumpaI= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jason Wohlford In-Reply-To: <4FE01562.1080404@p-o.co.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:42:18 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <44792CE8-1A8D-4E13-8309-946ADB26646C@wohlford.org> References: <4FE01562.1080404@p-o.co.uk> To: Alan Hicks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, decke@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mythweb X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:42:52 -0000 On Jun 19, 2012, at 1:00 AM, Alan Hicks wrote: > On 19/06/2012 03:00, Jason Wohlford wrote: >> I've been struggling with mythweb for a bit. It was working; now it's = not. It's been that way for at least a month. Can't tell if this is = something I induced or if it's a bug. Help me out, folks. >>=20 >> The error in the browser I'm getting is: >>=20 >> Fatal error: Class 'MythBase' not found in = /s/usr-local/www/mythweb/classes/Translate.php on line 16 >>=20 >> I look for a MythBase, but only find pointers. >>=20 >> [root@mythtv /usr/local/www/mythweb]# grep -Ri MythBase . >> ./classes/Translate.php:class Translate extends MythBase { >> ./modules/tv/classes/Channel.php:class Channel extends MythBase { >> ./modules/tv/classes/Program.php:class Program extends MythBase { >> ./modules/tv/classes/Schedule.php:class Schedule extends MythBase { >> grep: ./data/video_covers: No such file or directory >> grep: ./data/video: No such file or directory >> [root@mythtv /usr/local/www/mythweb]# >>=20 >> Googling to the error leads me to a page that mentions bindings, but = I couldn't find any such files even with a comprehensive 'find / -name = bindings'. >>=20 >> Compiling Common Binaries For Multiple Frontends >> = >>=20 >> Suggestions? >=20 > You are probably missing the bindings from multimedia/mythtv > /usr/local/share/mythtv/bindings/php/MythBase.php >=20 > The port may need to be patched as bindings appear to be always off, = alas not had time to offer patch for pkg-plist. That patch helped, in fact is was invaluable, but it wasn't the only = piece to the possible. Please recall that mythweb worked fine as of two months ago, then it = broke. To fix it: 1. Apply patch previously attached to his email. a. Copy patch to '/usr/ports/multimedia/mythtv'. b. run 'patch < mythtv.patch'. 2. Turn on bindings for mythtv. a. 'cd /usr/ports/multimedia/mythtv' b. 'patch < mythtv.patch' 3. Re-compile mythtv. a. 'make reinstall' b. '/usr/local/etc/rc.d/mythbackend restart' 4. Install PHP 5.3. PHP 5.4 no longer supports call by reference. a. 'cd /usr/ports/lang/php53' b. 'make install' 5. Configure PHP 5.3 to allow call by reference. a. 'cd /usr/local/etc' b. 'cp php.ini-development php.ini' c. Change "allow_call_time_pass_reference" from "Off" to "On" in = php.ini. 6. Install mythweb. a. 'cd /usr/ports/www/mythplugin-mythweb' b. 'make reinstall' If mythweb has never been configured to work with Apache, then that = should also be done. I'm still getting familiar with the ports system. If it's possible, I'd = suggest preventing lang/php5 (aka PHP 5.4) from installing when = compiling mythweb. There's probably some other stuff than could be done = too, but again I don't know ports very well. Alan, thanks for your help. My wife is quite happy her "So You Think You = Can Dance" shows will be recorded. ;-) Cheers, Jason P.S. Doh! Resending. 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Please indicate in the request: Your name: Your email address: City of residence: Please send the request to my email Gordon@workineurop.com,and I will answer you personally as soon as possible Sincerely, Gordon Delaney From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 19 17:51:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF76106564A; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A726A8FC14; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5JHp29K008238; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:51:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5JHp2Nj008235; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:51:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:51:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: VDR User In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20120618172144.303410@gmx.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:51:03 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Dieter BSD Subject: Re: how to turn my computer into a TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:51:12 -0000 > > I have a few Atom systems but they all use vdpau for decoding and I > never bothered to see how just the Atom holds up on it's own for > decoding. :) didn't have 1920x1080 video but 1366x768 MPEG4 plays smooth From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 21 08:28:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071771065678 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portsmonj.FreeBSD.org (portsmonj.freebsd.org [69.147.83.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CAC8FC1D for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from portsmonj.freebsd.org (portsmonj.freebsd.org [69.147.83.46]) by portsmonj.FreeBSD.org (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5L8SKG7074420 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:28:20 GMT (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:28:20 GMT Message-Id: <201206210828.q5L8SKG7074420@portsmonj.FreeBSD.org> From: linimon@FreeBSD.org To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD ports that you maintain which are currently marked broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: portmgr-feedback@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:28:21 -0000 Dear FreeBSD port maintainer: As part of an ongoing effort to reduce the number of problems in the FreeBSD ports system, we periodically notify users of ports that are marked as "broken" in their Makefiles. In many cases these ports are failing to compile on some subset of the FreeBSD build environments. The most common problem is that recent versions of -CURRENT include gcc4.2, which is much stricter than older versions. The next most common problem is that compiles succeed on the i386 architecture (e.g. the common Intel PC), but fail on one or more of the other architectures due to assumptions about things such as size of various types, byte-alignment issues, and so forth. In occasional cases we see that the same port may have different errors in different build environments. The script that runs on the build cluster uses heuristics to try to 'guess' the error type to help you isolate problems, but it is only a rough guide. One more note: on occasion, there are transient build errors seen on the build farm. Unfortunately, there is not yet any way for this algorithm to tell the difference (humans are much, much better at this kind of thing.) The errors are listed below. In the case where the same problem exists on more than one build environment, the URL points to the latest errorlog for that type. (By 'build environment' here we mean 'combination of 7.x/8.x/9.x/-current with target architecture'.) (Note: the dates are included to help you to gauge whether or not the error still applies to the latest version. The program that generates this report is not yet able to determine this automatically.) portname: audio/gstreamer-plugins-flite broken because: Doesn't work due to link problem in audio/flite build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=audio&portname=gstreamer-plugins-flite If these errors are ones that you are already aware of, please accept our apologies and ignore this message. On the other hand, if you no longer wish to maintain this port (or ports), please reply with a message stating that, and accept our thanks for your efforts in the past. Every effort has been made to make sure that these error reports really do correspond to a port that you maintain. However, due to the fact that this is an automated process, it may indeed generate false matches. If one of these errors fits that description, please forward this email to the author of this software, Mark Linimon , so that he can attempt to fix the problem in the future. Thanks for your efforts to help improve FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 21 08:29:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA1D1065702 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:29:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from portsmonj.FreeBSD.org (portsmonj.freebsd.org [69.147.83.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2B28FC0C for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from portsmonj.freebsd.org (portsmonj.freebsd.org [69.147.83.46]) by portsmonj.FreeBSD.org (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5L8TIbX080595 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:29:18 GMT (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:29:18 GMT Message-Id: <201206210829.q5L8TIbX080595@portsmonj.FreeBSD.org> From: linimon@FreeBSD.org To: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD ports that you maintain which are currently scheduled for deletion X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: portmgr-feedback@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:29:18 -0000 Dear FreeBSD port maintainer: As part of an ongoing effort to reduce the number of problems in the FreeBSD ports system, we periodically schedule removal of ports that have been judged to have outlived their usefulness. Often, this is due to a better alternative having become available and/or the cessation of development on the existing port. In some cases, ports are marked for removal because they fail to build and install correctly from their sources, or otherwise fail in operation. The ports, and the reason and date that they have been scheduled for removal, are listed below. If no one has stepped forward before that time to propose a way to fix the problems (such as via a PR), the ports will be deleted. portname: audio/gstreamer-plugins-flite description: Gstreamer flite run-time speech synthesis engine plugin maintainer: multimedia@FreeBSD.org status: BROKEN deprecated because: BROKEN for more than 6 month expiration date: 2012-05-10 build errors: none. overview: http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=audio&portname=gstreamer-plugins-flite If this problem is one that you are already aware of, please accept our apologies and ignore this message. On the other hand, if you no longer wish to maintain this port (or ports), please reply with a message stating that, and accept our thanks for your efforts in the past. Thanks for your efforts to help improve FreeBSD. 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From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 21 20:29:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E568F1065672 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@engineer.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A7BB8FC12 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22279 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jun 2012 20:29:29 -0000 Received: from 67.206.186.139 by rms-us013.v300.gmx.net with HTTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 16:29:26 -0400 From: "Dieter BSD" Message-ID: <20120621202927.303410@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #74169980 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer x-registered: 0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: cOGRb+EX3zOlNR3dAHAhTUN+IGRvb0BL Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:29:36 -0000 user.vdr writes: >>> Recording doesn't require any compression unless you are transcoding >>> in real-time. There's no difference between recording ATSC, NTSC, PAL, >>> etc, and it's actually irrelevant what the stream is. >> >> This is incorrect. ATSC is compressed before broadcast, so >> you receive the data already compresed.  NTSC and PAL are >> broadcast in analog. The tuner performs A-to-D which gives >> an uncompressed data stream.  Have fun trying to store that. >> As a practical matter, you have to compress the data in real time. >> Some, not all, tuners include hardware compression. > > With very very very few exceptions, all analog NTSC broadcasts have > been switched to digital, by the FCC mandated deadline of June 12, > 2009. As long as there remain some NTSC broadcasts, there might be some that you wish to watch.  That's why I wrote: >>>> You'll need to know if you have any NTSC (analog) stations you >>>> care about or if everything is ATSC (digital). Aryeh may or may not have any NTSC stations of interest. Given "we are using a broadcast signal only [current US {NYC} standards]" I rather doubt that Aryeh has any PAL stations to worry about. > You absolutely do NOT have to reencode a stream I did not say anything about RE-encoding anything.  Only about encoding/compressing the high bandwidth datastream the tuner generates from NTSC.  And to be clear, this only applies to NTSC, not to ATSC. > Tuners do NOT provide raw audio/video to the system in any case. http://corona.homeunix.net/cx88wiki/Overview/RawVideo From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 21 21:32:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80658106566B for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:32:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de) Received: from smtp.kn-bremen.de (gelbbaer.kn-bremen.de [78.46.108.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2298FC12 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kn-bremen.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id E58431E0070E; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 23:32:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from triton8.kn-bremen.de (noident@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by triton8.kn-bremen.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q5LLTV2Y075683; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 23:29:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox@triton8.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by triton8.kn-bremen.de (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id q5LLTVXq075682; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 23:29:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox) From: Juergen Lock Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 23:29:31 +0200 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20120621212931.GA75336@triton8.kn-bremen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Subject: Hans prepared a news webcamd, fixing em28xx /dev/video* X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:32:14 -0000 Hi! Check it out again with: svn --username anonsvn --password anonsvn \ checkout svn://svn.turbocat.net/i4b/trunk/ports I got this mostly working with a 'Terratec Grabby' usb video grabber, and I guess it will now also work with the one Xavier has (who had first reported the problem.) I say 'mostly working' because for some reason mine only works with the composite signal from a dreambox (dvb-s receiver), not with a vcr/dvd combo, with the latter it keeps acting as if there's no input signal i.e. I get a green window and mplayer complains about select timeouts. :( Enjoy, Juergen From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 22 04:51:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1272106567C; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 04:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from user.vdr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gh0-f182.google.com (mail-gh0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E2C8FC27; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 04:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbz22 with SMTP id z22so1457323ghb.13 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:51:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tiNCQ6+LyEL0GQs2C9kPKop44vA1KnH/F0rbIaGivo0=; b=OYW2/QdZIQfly0iU7pGS5pbo6iafSH2IH3BDeCHnNISVEEGMjvMQ3FwwhEq2rlPcsS 2nhtMevIt+hIkpyGAyGt20krq2AJvedRBGdnhKJurtrIw4bzg99EtV+bcmdaiI9heYPv 0Cc9J+d2ee2L86DHba/jhGlOl6a53adKqcmGXki86mlT583Go87pyk2NSyoQZY8w2n1Y HHr7Xlv1qaC/xWBShCAOOmoPkCoxrjNTEwZWUWtpiarebfjQX4Q9tRfio2ouPutZAnzX kT8meq5TBrTY3ljas7qB06hc9ATkLORgAVNGi4L75N522BCgrs76aPQ0C8Wf3YW0ZETr +urQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.186.162 with SMTP id fl2mr468946igc.44.1340340675496; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.189.201 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:51:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120621202927.303410@gmx.com> References: <20120621202927.303410@gmx.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:51:15 -0700 Message-ID: From: VDR User To: Dieter BSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 04:51:22 -0000 On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Dieter BSD wrote: >> With very very very few exceptions, all analog NTSC broadcasts have >> been switched to digital, by the FCC mandated deadline of June 12, >> 2009. > > As long as there remain some NTSC broadcasts, there might be some > that you wish to watch. =C2=A0That's why I wrote: Yes, technically there are still some that exist, for now. However, their death certificate is signed and they're so few that it's not worth mentioning. >> You absolutely do NOT have to reencode a stream > > I did not say anything about RE-encoding anything. =C2=A0Only about > encoding/compressing the high bandwidth datastream the tuner > generates from NTSC. =C2=A0And to be clear, this only applies to > NTSC, not to ATSC. NTSC streams are not broadcast raw. What do you call encoding data that's already encoded if you don't think it's reencoding? Also, doing so causes degredation so unless there's a need for the user to do so, he's better off not wasting his time. >> Tuners do NOT provide raw audio/video to the system in any case. > > http://corona.homeunix.net/cx88wiki/Overview/RawVideo While that's technically possible in _some_ cases, and assuming it's fully implemented and functional, I'm unaware of any software that actually provides raw data to the user. I suppose I should have worded my point differently. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 22 07:50:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CD2106564A for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gjasny@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB6A8FC23 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so1636949bkv.13 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 00:50:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v7aY3AWtrARzlUu+rBjc9tVTIKLaM0WKflLxfRRVwZ4=; b=O3DZ2clGTwh2WVdBsaGqHDWrAXg1I6/RrHhRLik7qMho5MtOnaqGZd9i//DztwJfFm bRju4+JDN+CVKGe/tq6/06rd0K6hdbvfMJRUbLIoxX8qJ0VCtd8eh7XcMP/lsCsx66Zs bzJ8dNh9gm39Nxop9YNUJJI5sZ/Eo8NGeuBYa1WSToQI1v6EEpujdcWJHi0BroJb9ugB UHZ5V7UZcZ79o4hDzcwk7DZToz9jeAQTm3TnhP7W22+HkldXnevXqoabtEmoeVPvjQdJ IVMcmn42C92nyywY8MMEzrv4G7+xxVhp0vRnW9GHFs30+WGlgcYSvVzdxxXxI+FtDbqK lV/A== Received: by 10.205.126.14 with SMTP id gu14mr374488bkc.137.1340351440060; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 00:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gjasny04.int.vidsoft.de ([78.108.113.8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n19sm34882895bkv.14.2012.06.22.00.50.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 22 Jun 2012 00:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FE423CD.7090105@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:50:37 +0200 From: Gregor Jasny User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, Hans Petter Selasky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: v4l-utils, v4l_compat and (k)FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:50:42 -0000 Hello, I'm the Debian Maintainer of v4l-utils and upstream contributor to v4l-utils. Some time ago I converted the hand crafted Makefile base build system to autotools which helped portability (iconv, argp, dl) a lot. I looked at the patches against the libv4l/v4l-utils port and changed the v4l-utils development version accordingly. One remaining issue was the dependency of (k)FreeBSD on processed v4l/dvb headers. The v4l_compat port gets synced from time to time but is always behind the latest version. This makes it impossible to even cnmpile test v4l-utils on the BSDs. So I looked at the diffs between the original V4L headers and the one in v4l_compat and came up with some sed rules and a quilt patch series. You can find the bsdify.sh script here: http://git.linuxtv.org/v4l-utils.git/tree/HEAD:/contrib/freebsd I also wired the sed and quilt rules into the sync-with-kernel target so the processed files become a part of v4l-utils. So they'll always be on par with the Linux ones. Unfortunately I won't find time to test v4l-utils with webcamd during the next month. Maybe someone from the FreeBSD multimedia team could step in? Note: currently you still need these two patches to compile on (k)FreeBSD: > http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/libv4l.git;a=tree;f=debian/patches;h=90c8fa7f37eecc508db4b0151e35d5e736474b67;hb=refs/heads/debian-0.9.x I'd love to release v4l-utils 0.10 with proper (k)FreeBSD support. Thanks, Gregor From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 22 14:43:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34323106566C; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hselasky@c2i.net) Received: from swip.net (mailfe04.c2i.net [212.247.154.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6668FC1E; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:43:30 +0000 (UTC) X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, BAYES_50 Received: from [176.74.212.201] (account mc467741@c2i.net HELO laptop015.hselasky.homeunix.org) by mailfe04.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 288530756; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:38:21 +0200 From: Hans Petter Selasky To: Gregor Jasny Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:38:02 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-STABLE; KDE/4.7.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4FE423CD.7090105@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FE423CD.7090105@googlemail.com> X-Face: 'mmZ:T{)),Oru^0c+/}w'`gU1$ubmG?lp!=R4Wy\ELYo2)@'UZ24N@d2+AyewRX}mAm; Yp |U[@, _z/([?1bCfM{_"B<.J>mICJCHAzzGHI{y7{%JVz%R~yJHIji`y>Y}k1C4TfysrsUI -%GU9V5]iUZF&nRn9mJ'?&>O MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201206221638.02708.hselasky@c2i.net> Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, kwm@freebsd.org, Juergen Lock Subject: Re: v4l-utils, v4l_compat and (k)FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:43:31 -0000 On Friday 22 June 2012 09:50:37 Gregor Jasny wrote: > Hello, > > I'm the Debian Maintainer of v4l-utils and upstream contributor to > v4l-utils. Some time ago I converted the hand crafted Makefile base > build system to autotools which helped portability (iconv, argp, dl) a > lot. I looked at the patches against the libv4l/v4l-utils port and > changed the v4l-utils development version accordingly. One remaining > issue was the dependency of (k)FreeBSD on processed v4l/dvb headers. The > v4l_compat port gets synced from time to time but is always behind the > latest version. > > This makes it impossible to even cnmpile test v4l-utils on the BSDs. So > I looked at the diffs between the original V4L headers and the one in > v4l_compat and came up with some sed rules and a quilt patch series. > Hi, > You can find the bsdify.sh script here: > http://git.linuxtv.org/v4l-utils.git/tree/HEAD:/contrib/freebsd > Your script looks good! > I also wired the sed and quilt rules into the sync-with-kernel target so > the processed files become a part of v4l-utils. So they'll always be on > par with the Linux ones. > > Unfortunately I won't find time to test v4l-utils with webcamd during > the next month. Maybe someone from the FreeBSD multimedia team could > step in? Webcamd does not use these header files as of newer releases. It uses the ones that ship with the Linux kernel sources without any modifications. However, other applications use this port and needs to be tested. > > Note: currently you still need these two patches to compile on (k)FreeBSD: > > http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/libv4l.git;a=tree;f=debi > > an/patches;h=90c8fa7f37eecc508db4b0151e35d5e736474b67;hb=refs/heads/debia > > n-0.9.x > > I'd love to release v4l-utils 0.10 with proper (k)FreeBSD support. Thank you! V4L works great in FreeBSD userspace as far as I'm aware! Koop: How do we go ahead with this one? --HPS From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 22 15:27:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755EB1065670 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@engineer.com) Received: from mailout-us.mail.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 17F9A8FC0C for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 940 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 2012 15:27:32 -0000 Received: from 67.206.187.88 by rms-us015 with HTTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:27:30 -0400 From: "Dieter BSD" Message-ID: <20120622152731.303450@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #74169980 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer x-registered: 0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: tOuWb+0X3zOlNR3dAHAhph1+IGRvb8A7 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to turn my computer into a TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:27:38 -0000 user.vdr writes: >> As long as there remain some NTSC broadcasts, there might be some >> that you wish to watch. That's why I wrote: > > Yes, technically there are still some that exist, for now. However, > their death certificate is signed and they're so few that it's not > worth mentioning. If you don't think NTSC is worth mentioning, why do you keep posting the same incorrect statements over and over again? >>> You absolutely do NOT have to reencode a stream >> >> I did not say anything about RE-encoding anything. Only about >> encoding/compressing the high bandwidth datastream the tuner >> generates from NTSC. And to be clear, this only applies to >> NTSC, not to ATSC. > > NTSC streams are not broadcast raw. What do you call encoding data > that's already encoded if you don't think it's reencoding? Also, doing > so causes degredation so unless there's a need for the user to do so, > he's better off not wasting his time. NTSC is not a stream of bits. NTSC is analog. The tuner converts the NTSC analog waveform into a raw stream of bits. This raw stream of bits is too large to conviently store on disk, so it needs to be compressed/encoded into mpeg or similar. Some tuners include a hardware encoder, but many do not. >>> Tuners do NOT provide raw audio/video to the system in any case. >> >> http://corona.homeunix.net/cx88wiki/Overview/RawVideo > > While that's technically possible in _some_ cases, and assuming it's > fully implemented and functional, I'm unaware of any software that > actually provides raw data to the user. I suppose I should have worded > my point differently. The cx88wiki URL above describes the cx88 software (in ports). For tuners without a hardware encoder, raw video/audio is the only thing you can get from the tuner when receiving NTSC. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 22 15:48:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004AD106564A; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from user.vdr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8948FC14; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl8 with SMTP id l8so1945165yen.13 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:48:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=qgubgwpQh55WERyAf1HaFUrEpJNtwtF74Jw2ezKUnSs=; b=VxgFbBEc2rXUBt/gwI2NtTUJKdHLixJVIS+IBv+c6bUUIZrqr817Y5boXMErfi26wo /3Cz4IV8d//KUY/I+O4u5byCb+gU4fKlMeJ8Ym2ZEzNv1Eg1J/16GXQlp0lpop0vX8U+ ZbouY0aPNiMCqT1sOAPL761zR5CLkCNh6XAu2jmj7WfL7iKS92qHNHc+yHAWKYgLAlTs q2Y904sNnArDT7CFL8SHVJftZzCIOBOo8+plVBQnUh8/52w74aN4HuJYqOTwv+dKd7FI r1+slraI++W7THMEsAqwS7E+g6T5Euuhc7dyUF/eWgRTjkUqZvxzTnaVjlgPGVBqSQz5 8UPQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.80.129 with SMTP id v1mr413222ick.21.1340380101365; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.189.201 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:48:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120622152731.303450@gmx.com> References: <20120622152731.303450@gmx.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:48:21 -0700 Message-ID: From: VDR User To: Dieter BSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to turn my computer into a TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:48:23 -0000 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Dieter BSD wrote: >> Yes, technically there are still some that exist, for now. However, >> their death certificate is signed and they're so few that it's not >> worth mentioning. > > If you don't think NTSC is worth mentioning, why do you keep posting > the same incorrect statements over and over again? Your disagree that NTSC is out, soon including the very few exceptions that remain? You disagree that NTSC is not worth mentioning at this point? Well, to be fair, one of those is fact but the other is opinion, which everyone is welcome to -- differing or not. > NTSC is not a stream of bits. NTSC is analog. The tuner converts > the NTSC analog waveform into a raw stream of bits. This raw > stream of bits is too large to conviently store on disk, so it > needs to be compressed/encoded into mpeg or similar. Some > tuners include a hardware encoder, but many do not. Nope. > The cx88wiki URL above describes the cx88 software (in ports). > For tuners without a hardware encoder, raw video/audio is the only > thing you can get from the tuner when receiving NTSC. Nope. It seems you want to talk about things more along the lines of what's technically in the realm of possibility while I prefer sticking to real world scenario & application. Which, leaves us at an impasse....I guess. Cheers From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 22 17:13:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449F21065676 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieterbsd@engineer.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD43C8FC08 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6113 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 2012 17:13:57 -0000 Received: from 67.206.187.88 by rms-us008.v300.gmx.net with HTTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:13:53 -0400 From: "Dieter BSD" Message-ID: <20120622171355.303430@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Authenticated: #74169980 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer x-registered: 0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: hMKWb+MX3zOlNR3dAHAhKcV+IGRvb0DQ Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to turn my computer into a TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:13:59 -0000 user.vdr writes: >>>>> Tuners do NOT provide raw audio/video to the system in any case. >>>> >>>> http://corona.homeunix.net/cx88wiki/Overview/RawVideo >>> >>> While that's technically possible in _some_ cases, and assuming it's >>> fully implemented and functional, I'm unaware of any software that >>> actually provides raw data to the user. I suppose I should have worded >>> my point differently. >> >> The cx88wiki URL above describes the cx88 software (in ports). >> For tuners without a hardware encoder, raw video/audio is the only >> thing you can get from the tuner when receiving NTSC. > > Nope. Prove me wrong.  Post the command line to have cx88 (in ports) output encoded (mpeg or similar) video with a pcHDTV HD3000 tuner card receiving a NTSC input. Since you claim that the cx88 output is already encoded, piping the output into mplayer or similar to do the encoding doesn't count. From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 22 17:17:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9ED106564A; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from user.vdr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A6B8FC18; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhq56 with SMTP id 56so1924993yhq.17 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:17:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tABGZOZMY197LP1nrowjgKxWHaSbLNwCJmh83GE6Oqo=; b=rB3rIqG0dXuoMQmHAymfbM9lKv/NxVAYSOeAY/h9PZllxABVuSOX/3MRxfzVQXgTgG CkJ7HIn5lGlgnrvFRTa0K/Vp9BzV2duqZ79m8Kuy/ahotJm0xkqWNJ4KUl78LSGDRqD8 V5Gqo2kbj5cUjOA7JzPViKskFVw3Mf7MTK6mwvR2qCsSalrTWEh+fFKwicT3mvK2ZEfI wKBElu/CfFUhgKyStJGkD5K+cXZ8fmQi1tyS8eJ5g1yJSm4b7KcdXsaRyyU+CZPW7447 mGSU/soKf0BUBLNpC9c4yNoSNsuMFXPyS7o6qu38AJzOHV1LOA7gIRKJox3LVk33uwI0 Sr9A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.188.201 with SMTP id gc9mr2408237igc.44.1340385465945; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.189.201 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:17:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120622171355.303430@gmx.com> References: <20120622171355.303430@gmx.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:17:45 -0700 Message-ID: From: VDR User To: Dieter BSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to turn my computer into a TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:17:47 -0000 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Dieter BSD wrote= : >>> The cx88wiki URL above describes the cx88 software (in ports). >>> For tuners without a hardware encoder, raw video/audio is the only >>> thing you can get from the tuner when receiving NTSC. >> >> Nope. > > Prove me wrong. =C2=A0Post the command line to have cx88 (in ports) outpu= t > encoded (mpeg or similar) video with a pcHDTV HD3000 tuner card > receiving a NTSC input. Please see my comment following the bit you quoted. Cheers