From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 00:24:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB5982B for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A70AF20 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:24:43 -0800 Message-ID: <50F1FECA.4090801@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:24:42 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: manpage -> html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2013 00:24:43.0396 (UTC) FILETIME=[624D4440:01CDF124] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:24:42 -0000 Is there any command line command to convert a port's manpage to html? Well really any manpage. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 00:28:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E11E933 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:28:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA2EF42 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0D0Roo3028828 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:27:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <50F1FF85.2030205@tundraware.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:27:49 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: manpage -> html References: <50F1FECA.4090801@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <50F1FECA.4090801@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [192.168.0.1]); Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:27:50 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: r0D0Roo3028828 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:28:07 -0000 On 01/12/2013 06:24 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: > Is there any command line command to convert a port's manpage to html? > Well really any manpage. In the ports under: textproc/man2html -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 00:30:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D5CA1E for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B082F57 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id fy27so2551269vcb.41 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:30:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=t1+k16QGVk8XAkrJFXR56Jj6d/ArcdDMFR/FATT/EvM=; b=ntFHdwznHCPNsgc4YELB0AmbuVGPP3aG60JaNTviJP8Jg9RU0wmP+6jCalgZDZOuxP ypSOV8YVUEndlYA+XyytLxeYxXqeQanR3XpsW0O3lj2kReCqk69LcOo/SmDzQVpFF0Wx n9oZmVoES5xIuuKtqDrY333SMSYqAHpommM4xubCfKRO06e6r04c485dsTXPRL36Fp5x nSlkTxivIm2Yc1iDHcmXUfy9pozINOvcTGV57z9JXJQ7uJvSnVYePoJLqFtW28szMjYB M9JZzEBv9pP4JfBR+X71FTWVJDcU9OpjOpbGM7U5Ot9lLx2rL3IIBT8Fn0hsiyE9sbnP 0igA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.97.7 with SMTP id dw7mr86175813vdb.38.1358037001505; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.214.226 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:30:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F1FECA.4090801@a1poweruser.com> References: <50F1FECA.4090801@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:30:01 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: manpage -> html From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Fbsd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:30:09 -0000 On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: > Is there any command line command to convert a port's manpage to html? > Well really any manpage. > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandoc http://mdocml.bsd.lv/ Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 00:52:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EAFE45 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77278FCE for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:52:06 -0800 Message-ID: <50F20536.3020009@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:52:06 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: manpage -> html References: <50F1FECA.4090801@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2013 00:52:06.0628 (UTC) FILETIME=[35BE9240:01CDF128] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:52:05 -0000 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Fbsd8 > wrote: > > Is there any command line command to convert a port's manpage to html? > Well really any manpage. > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandoc > http://mdocml.bsd.lv/ > > > Thank you very much . > > Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > OK let me be more specific. Using just commands that are in the base system. IE; come with the 9.1 system From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 00:58:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54392252 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:58:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DE9FFE for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A8DA7109D for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:58:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6997 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2013 00:58:23 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 32601, pid: 27742, t: 0.1602s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.7]) (tomdean@[24.113.104.91]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Jan 2013 00:58:23 -0000 Message-ID: <50F206B7.4090108@speakeasy.org> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:58:31 -0800 From: "Thomas D. Dean" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: BWN WLAN wpa_supplicant ssid mismatch no carrier Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail5.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=8.0 tests=RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:58:25 -0000 FreeBSD 9.0 as of June 1, 2012. I have an older laptop with a PC Card Linksys WiFi adapter. I cannot connect to a close-by (2 ft) wireless router. > cat rc.conf ... ifconfig_wlan0="WPA SYNCDHCP" wlans_bwn0="wlan0" ... > cat /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf network={ ssid="tddhome" psk="...." } # wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -ddt ... 0: < the correct router> ssid='' wpa_ie_len=22 ... skip - SSID mismatch ... The interface is seeing the correct router > ifconfig -v wlan0 list scan ... SSID ... WPA ... What am I doing wrong? Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 01:09:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF40477 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E617AB8 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:09:13 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=Tz9qNzsIua9k8D8c/jIxKYJzaGpwtjTSTAR4JO2HlRM=; b=m0OwjMohNkiqcrxxbyg1zS7G7nsoYXx115BGlj6M8//JtFovxJaMWZ3ronYW2qwLyZuFxf2jaBmt5A5lRHn8J4P4+eSoy3aE0O4ehCBLbn9F8k6c4TWGGOTFTcdhbTtT; Received: from [125.163.96.175] (port=27077 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TuC4O-002LK3-Va; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:09:05 -0700 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:09:00 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Warren Block Subject: Re: gpart, glabel and newfs --> what am I doing wrong Message-ID: <20130113080900.1a0045f8@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20130112192220.617e28b6@X220.ovitrap.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:09:14 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:56:39 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > in general, I try to create the partitions with gpart, add a label > > with glabel and put a filesystem. I think that I am doing something > > very simple the wrong way but I cannot see the error. > > > > I try to do it in the following way: > > > > # gpart destroy -F da0 > > # gpart create -s GPT da0 > > # gpart add -t freebsd-boot -s 64k da0 > > # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 da0 > > # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 512m -a 4k -l Toshiba16GB2boot da0 > > # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 10m -a 4k -l Toshiba16GB2root da0 > > # gpart add -t freebsd-swap -s 10m -a 4k -l Toshiba16GB2swap da0 > > # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 10m -a 4k -l Toshiba16GB2var da0 > > # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 10m -a 4k -l Toshiba16GB2tmp da0 > > # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -a 4k -l Toshiba16GB2usr da0 > > > > Label the partitions: > > > > # glabel label Toshiba16GB2boot /dev/da0p2 > > # glabel label Toshiba16GB2root /dev/da0p3 > > # glabel label Toshiba16GB2swap /dev/da0p4 > > # glabel label Toshiba16GB2var /dev/da0p5 > > # glabel label Toshiba16GB2tmp /dev/da0p6 > > # glabel label Toshiba16GB2usr /dev/da0p7 > > There is no need for all this. You already created GPT labels with > 'gpt -l' above. And those labels don't need extra metadata at the > end of the partition. > For what is glabel then still good? > And consider using -U with newfs. Do not worry, this was just for the test. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 01:12:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6B855D for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78033D8 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:12:43 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=ltoDO4l4TxFWr+xVa3es6x0C7xKSZHQD7ZnUmXP7q+g=; b=eWrRxzD4DvlRGa8DXnhikouaOhK5rpP9seFs7Om6UKEhvPCVj3IkyXYlBSjaMudqK8I9BBWc6Hk+1+uwd8qOXa5+7KVgc3VvqPkurH7VCmY+yqJNK82QiVV3keDHgmcW; Received: from [125.163.96.175] (port=28638 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TuC7r-002M3m-7j; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:12:39 -0700 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:12:35 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: "Thomas D. Dean" Subject: Re: BWN WLAN wpa_supplicant ssid mismatch no carrier Message-ID: <20130113081235.7b98013f@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <50F206B7.4090108@speakeasy.org> References: <50F206B7.4090108@speakeasy.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:12:43 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 16:58:31 -0800 "Thomas D. Dean" wrote: > FreeBSD 9.0 as of June 1, 2012. > > I have an older laptop with a PC Card Linksys WiFi adapter. > > I cannot connect to a close-by (2 ft) wireless router. > > > cat rc.conf > ... > ifconfig_wlan0="WPA SYNCDHCP" you must add here the ssid to be used. > wlans_bwn0="wlan0" > ... > > > cat /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf > network={ > ssid="tddhome" > psk="...." > } > > # wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -ddt > ... > 0: < the correct router> ssid='' wpa_ie_len=22 ... > skip - SSID mismatch > ... > > The interface is seeing the correct router > > ifconfig -v wlan0 list scan > ... > > SSID ... WPA ... > > What am I doing wrong? You must tell ifconfig which ssid to use. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 01:14:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8DA609 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f48.google.com (mail-bk0-f48.google.com [209.85.214.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08607EB for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f48.google.com with SMTP id jc3so1425541bkc.7 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:14:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ThNES/D02GSC4co0rLd8OSbwGdd9L8wvSCtXKRoy1L4=; b=XlojlYaXuIRFNvQ9Pvbb79apLTW2ow7XzjMpCi9A93FtcgzGtCbbeQaU6d6lCQGTCM 2ulcOx24HnUkTfUZNYUCilVc7PGrxY3Q89ecUbMuSvXOvcxPUUph2mdOoceVnsgGgXNs VnDcb+61+esPzkoHuclM8Xpmui12GwFpMfR80JWYVxI540MD5gxhjSDrtiendkpPAIRj /CkheDRsGdpAqTb3ElleUH6j26CCs0BTOtLYxXmpY8BXYbZ3WJraVn/T82j+JrNw8nkl nh1dD+syUZAJb/vvzMhoXuFAfq5WGmIlm7RwsLb61le3DfLCfTW7zg00WcJoNn1nNRDw D4fg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.5.69 with SMTP id 5mr37384758bku.26.1358039675261; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.75.211 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:14:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F206B7.4090108@speakeasy.org> References: <50F206B7.4090108@speakeasy.org> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:14:35 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: BWN WLAN wpa_supplicant ssid mismatch no carrier From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:14:42 -0000 On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > FreeBSD 9.0 as of June 1, 2012. > > I have an older laptop with a PC Card Linksys WiFi adapter. > > I cannot connect to a close-by (2 ft) wireless router. > > > cat rc.conf > ... > ifconfig_wlan0="WPA SYNCDHCP" > wlans_bwn0="wlan0" > ... > > > cat /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf > network={ > ssid="tddhome" > psk="...." > } > > # wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -ddt > ... > 0: < the correct router> ssid='' wpa_ie_len=22 ... > skip - SSID mismatch > ... > > The interface is seeing the correct router > > ifconfig -v wlan0 list scan > ... > > SSID ... WPA ... > > What am I doing wrong? > > Tom Dean > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > Hi, I don't recall connecting with CCMP (maybe there's no issue!!!) but check the router settings. For some reason I remember having to set mine to use TKIP. An idea. (?) -- Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 01:14:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19EE699 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:14:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C759EE for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.80]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B233CA31; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:14:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0D1Es7h002598; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:14:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:14:54 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: manpage -> html Message-Id: <20130113021454.e1128036.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <50F20536.3020009@a1poweruser.com> References: <50F1FECA.4090801@a1poweruser.com> <50F20536.3020009@a1poweruser.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:14:53 -0000 On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:52:06 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: > OK let me be more specific. > Using just commands that are in the base system. > IE; come with the 9.1 system Very well: zcat `man -w ls` | groff -Thtml -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 > ls.html zcat `man -w ls` | groff -Thtml > ls.html However, the output looks a bit strange here (tested with lynx and Opera), so maybe some additional options are required. I've just derived this from my man2pdf script and read "man groff" for the -T parameter. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 01:39:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945B2B58 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f50.google.com (mail-bk0-f50.google.com [209.85.214.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259F4160 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f50.google.com with SMTP id jf3so1461906bkc.37 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:39:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fEkAps2r/cAwgtaUEZ8P6vRYbRG5soBspZrDqIrhOXo=; b=PMz/mBZfHR4V+xUylnmXnkFw15wIdGAnrr99yHylAfmcv8EWTs1spn0QuRIR0SnowF 7oSL73crDWmStyxNpXB2Y11DW9WGD/B51fh0bEVq3v7cdRDkoaLRaevZCLXkjPAHBh7k i1OIM/KE+/FGxKKr4DEQ4bXj5PdO1fjAMYkXNG65UlWr+qT5lEOXjmBxV30S9DwMmD6Z 1Kh7ruR4S8twvZAUHtmkpIKxi0V+9UICOvgdYnG/4C4ql54Dolh6z0dfQuUKyQmgSy3r UWv48UX2XmeJmh0KwZjAOlKhcMppHi9i3p3Abfq44GZkKQfD0IG1M73M+y0K7E5itEH/ UtoQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.5.69 with SMTP id 5mr37393906bku.26.1358041140626; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:39:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.75.211 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:39:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <50F206B7.4090108@speakeasy.org> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:39:00 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: BWN WLAN wpa_supplicant ssid mismatch no carrier From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:39:08 -0000 On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > >> FreeBSD 9.0 as of June 1, 2012. >> >> I have an older laptop with a PC Card Linksys WiFi adapter. >> >> I cannot connect to a close-by (2 ft) wireless router. >> >> > cat rc.conf >> ... >> ifconfig_wlan0="WPA SYNCDHCP" >> wlans_bwn0="wlan0" >> ... >> >> > cat /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf >> network={ >> ssid="tddhome" >> psk="...." >> } >> >> # wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -ddt >> ... >> 0: < the correct router> ssid='' wpa_ie_len=22 ... >> skip - SSID mismatch >> ... >> >> The interface is seeing the correct router >> > ifconfig -v wlan0 list scan >> ... >> >> SSID ... WPA ... >> >> What am I doing wrong? >> >> Tom Dean >> ______________________________**_________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org " >> > > Hi, > > I don't recall connecting with CCMP (maybe there's no issue!!!) but check > the router settings. For some reason I remember having to set mine to use > TKIP. An idea. (?) > > > -- > Waitman Gobble > San Jose California USA > 510-830-7975 > I think Erich is correct. Also, CCMP should work great if wlan_ccmp_load="YES" is in /boot/loader.conf Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 01:59:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737E7E96 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:59:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B85C1B1 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:59:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B19A70B15 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17156 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2013 01:59:32 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 6816, pid: 18847, t: 1.1502s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.7]) (tomdean@[24.113.104.91]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Jan 2013 01:59:31 -0000 Message-ID: <50F2150B.1030601@speakeasy.org> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:59:39 -0800 From: "Thomas D. Dean" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BWN WLAN wpa_supplicant ssid mismatch no carrier References: <50F206B7.4090108@speakeasy.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail5.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=8.0 tests=RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:59:34 -0000 On 01/12/13 17:39, Waitman Gobble wrote: # kldload wlan_ccmp # kldload wlan_ccmp kldload: can't load wlan_ccmp: File exists Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 01:59:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F622E97 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:59:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE1A1B2 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 12 Jan 2013 17:59:41 -0800 Message-ID: <50F2150C.20209@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:59:40 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: manpage -> html References: <50F1FECA.4090801@a1poweruser.com> <50F20536.3020009@a1poweruser.com> <20130113021454.e1128036.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130113021454.e1128036.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2013 01:59:41.0198 (UTC) FILETIME=[A674DAE0:01CDF131] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:59:40 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:52:06 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: >> OK let me be more specific. >> Using just commands that are in the base system. >> IE; come with the 9.1 system > > Very well: > > zcat `man -w ls` | groff -Thtml -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 > ls.html > > zcat `man -w ls` | groff -Thtml > ls.html > > However, the output looks a bit strange here (tested with lynx > and Opera), so maybe some additional options are required. I've > just derived this from my man2pdf script and read "man groff" > for the -T parameter. > > zcat `man -w ls` | groff -T html > ls.html That kind of worked. It did create html code but it dropped all the indentations and blank lines. .Pp commands in the man page source. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 02:05:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC95FD9 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:05:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@chthonixia.net) Received: from www5.pairlite.com (www5.pairlite.com [64.130.10.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1A01D3 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from whisperer.chthonixia.net (unknown [184.152.30.105]) by www5.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E64A22E2E0 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:00:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:01:14 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Regarding: Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Message-ID: <20130113020114.GA23658@whisperer.chthonixia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:05:52 -0000 Greetings... I was upgrading kino tonight, and the upgrade process failed and tossed this request at the tail of the error: ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to ports@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the "/usr/ports/multimedia/kino/work/kino-1.3.4/config.log" including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. a /usr/sbin/pkg_info -Ea). On January 2, the same thing happened and I did as requested...my email can be seen in the January 2013 thread in the mailing lists and seems unacknowledged. Looking at it, I saw (and remembered) send-pr as the method to use. My question: should a PR be opened on the "Script 'configure..." message, such that "use send-pr" instead of "send it to ports@" is used? I imagine this sort of problem is common. Regards, Joe Altman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 02:20:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D194D3 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A3921C for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:20:03 -0800 Message-ID: <50F219D2.2040906@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:20:02 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: manpage -> html References: <50F1FECA.4090801@a1poweruser.com> <50F20536.3020009@a1poweruser.com> <20130113021454.e1128036.freebsd@edvax.de> <50F2150C.20209@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <50F2150C.20209@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2013 02:20:03.0614 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F12BBE0:01CDF134] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:20:02 -0000 Fbsd8 wrote: > Polytropon wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:52:06 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: >>> OK let me be more specific. >>> Using just commands that are in the base system. >>> IE; come with the 9.1 system >> >> Very well: >> >> zcat `man -w ls` | groff -Thtml -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 > ls.html >> >> zcat `man -w ls` | groff -Thtml > ls.html >> >> However, the output looks a bit strange here (tested with lynx >> and Opera), so maybe some additional options are required. I've >> just derived this from my man2pdf script and read "man groff" >> for the -T parameter. >> >> > > zcat `man -w ls` | groff -T html > ls.html > > That kind of worked. It did create html code but it dropped all the > indentations and blank lines. .Pp commands in the man page source. > > zcat `man -w ls` | groff -mdoc -T html > ls.html The -mdoc is the FBSD style and it worked. Got indentations for all sections plus the high-intensity stuff converted to bold. The blank lines also can out. Thanks for the pointer. You're da man. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 02:21:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321D2570 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f43.google.com (mail-bk0-f43.google.com [209.85.214.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A40822C for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f43.google.com with SMTP id jf20so1455602bkc.2 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:21:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vI6otudrL+JgKUHbQgkEsF54Fy6JT4MbCr6VMCPetic=; b=BKg17HW39C9W2HZp24I7124hCcnKQBsQEeXFlYmvcfDxDgdDjfIYOj5CxuTYmRtBoZ 3hqmc+t1dWcj4HjyCqHWIYfsXqgvsBmI4cA7EtaKy1sCLCyLAat0Jl4UacbYeXVnh9qF Mp9vmuFNzmtJga5dq4oLuEtYCy3ggoBa+K/Dw3jFgNqtPspNQqcN9EB7lLLx5Bd0B998 OX1xJI9YUWk+ECai6eX9g4D1WsAXTUw6fnvF6kMYJ2Q0tNyrirw4HlURFgDhYaeod25p 1AfPz0i+5AVVbWwVRTqxT9TZDK67fVtgTtIxfalra8hJUyRyUx+izZvHOkO26i53FzLf /4tw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.12.220 with SMTP id y28mr39477048bky.112.1358043688281; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:21:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.75.211 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:21:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130113020114.GA23658@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: <20130113020114.GA23658@whisperer.chthonixia.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:21:28 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Regarding: Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. From: Waitman Gobble To: Joe Altman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:21:36 -0000 On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Joe Altman wrote: > Greetings... > > I was upgrading kino tonight, and the upgrade process failed and tossed > this request at the tail of the error: > > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > Please report the problem to ports@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach > the "/usr/ports/multimedia/kino/work/kino-1.3.4/config.log" including > the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good > idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system > (e.g. a /usr/sbin/pkg_info -Ea). > > On January 2, the same thing happened and I did as requested...my email > can be seen in the January 2013 thread in the mailing lists and seems > unacknowledged. Looking at it, I saw (and remembered) send-pr as the > method to use. > > My question: should a PR be opened on the "Script 'configure..." > message, such that "use send-pr" instead of "send it to ports@" is used? > > I imagine this sort of problem is common. > > Regards, > > Joe Altman > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi, If the email contact is as listed it seems there is not a specific person who has taken the port. I found your email to the ports list with the attached config.log. I will take a look at the problem and probably find a solution. I'm heading out for the evening so I may not get to it until tomorrow morning. -- Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 02:39:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF28C908 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:39:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B9327B for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:39:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1434A71385 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:39:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8648 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2013 02:39:02 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 29953, pid: 29718, t: 0.1387s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.7]) (tomdean@[24.113.104.91]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Jan 2013 02:39:01 -0000 Message-ID: <50F21E4D.90207@speakeasy.org> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:39:09 -0800 From: "Thomas D. Dean" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BWN WLAN wpa_supplicant ssid mismatch no carrier References: <50F206B7.4090108@speakeasy.org> <50F2150B.1030601@speakeasy.org> In-Reply-To: <50F2150B.1030601@speakeasy.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail5.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=8.0 tests=RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:39:03 -0000 On 01/12/13 17:59, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > cat /etc/rc.conf ... ifconfig_wlan0="SYNCDHCP WPA ssid tddhome mode 11b" wlan0_bwn0="wlan0" ... I found another email that said the device did not support mode 11n. But, this does not seem to have changed anything. Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 02:47:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F98A8B for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:47:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66323299 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:47:27 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=qfZ74jgt17L8JgCvFWNaLVdVVLxZatuK86VGj15yeGE=; b=uirqEG0/ukDa1NvbubjabHBEnzROqMKpwNCSxtkXvzChyMEeVEQIMVqbMLOz7A8qZzCyfg94WqbCAtzTdayd9bWr4tDRr6fkLqWxsU2/HE9BT2xPfJ4D+2nC8j9Shkz4; Received: from [125.163.96.175] (port=19432 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TuDbZ-002kDw-QR; Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:47:26 -0700 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:47:17 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: "Thomas D. Dean" Subject: Re: BWN WLAN wpa_supplicant ssid mismatch no carrier Message-ID: <20130113094717.10687bff@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <50F21E4D.90207@speakeasy.org> References: <50F206B7.4090108@speakeasy.org> <50F2150B.1030601@speakeasy.org> <50F21E4D.90207@speakeasy.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:47:27 -0000 Hi, On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:39:09 -0800 "Thomas D. Dean" wrote: > On 01/12/13 17:59, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > > > cat /etc/rc.conf > ... > ifconfig_wlan0="SYNCDHCP WPA ssid tddhome mode 11b" > wlan0_bwn0="wlan0" > ... > > I found another email that said the device did not support mode 11n. > But, this does not seem to have changed anything. > leave the mode away. It should then use a mode which both bwn and the device will support. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 02:51:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FD7B53 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:51:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC582B0 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.80]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC8E249D3; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:51:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0D2pAhJ004830; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:51:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:51:09 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: manpage -> html Message-Id: <20130113035109.28f69d05.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <50F219D2.2040906@a1poweruser.com> References: <50F1FECA.4090801@a1poweruser.com> <50F20536.3020009@a1poweruser.com> <20130113021454.e1128036.freebsd@edvax.de> <50F2150C.20209@a1poweruser.com> <50F219D2.2040906@a1poweruser.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:51:14 -0000 On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 21:20:02 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: > Fbsd8 wrote: > > Polytropon wrote: > >> On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 19:52:06 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: > >>> OK let me be more specific. > >>> Using just commands that are in the base system. > >>> IE; come with the 9.1 system > >> > >> Very well: > >> > >> zcat `man -w ls` | groff -Thtml -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 > ls.html > >> > >> zcat `man -w ls` | groff -Thtml > ls.html > >> > >> However, the output looks a bit strange here (tested with lynx > >> and Opera), so maybe some additional options are required. I've > >> just derived this from my man2pdf script and read "man groff" > >> for the -T parameter. > >> > >> > > > > zcat `man -w ls` | groff -T html > ls.html > > > > That kind of worked. It did create html code but it dropped all the > > indentations and blank lines. .Pp commands in the man page source. > > > > > zcat `man -w ls` | groff -mdoc -T html > ls.html > > The -mdoc is the FBSD style and it worked. > Got indentations for all sections plus the high-intensity stuff > converted to bold. The blank lines also can out. An all this confusion simply because I wanted to trim the command nicely and left out some stuff from my man2pdf script. Here it is for reference (in case you need to create PS or PDF output from manpages): #!/bin/sh if [ $# = 0 ]; then echo "usage: man2pdf.sh " exit 1 fi if [ -f $1.pdf ]; then echo "output file $1.pdf already exists, aborting." exit 1 fi zcat `man -w $@` | groff -Tps -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 -mandoc | ps2pdf $1.pdf exit 0 And as you can see: the -mandoc option is in there, the big difference being -Tps instead of -Thtml (as listed in "man groff" regarding the -T option). Note that this script requires ps2pdf as external package. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 05:20:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0BA126 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 05:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@chthonixia.net) Received: from www5.pairlite.com (www5.pairlite.com [64.130.10.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D9C7D5 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 05:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from whisperer.chthonixia.net (unknown [184.152.30.105]) by www5.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2F8F2E2E5; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:20:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:21:23 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Waitman Gobble Subject: Re: Regarding: Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Message-ID: <20130113052123.GA38280@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: <20130113020114.GA23658@whisperer.chthonixia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 05:20:44 -0000 On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 06:21:28PM -0800, Waitman Gobble wrote: >> Hi, > > If the email contact is as listed it seems there is not a specific person > who has taken the port. I found your email to the ports list with the > attached config.log. I will take a look at the problem and probably find a > solution. I'm heading out for the evening so I may not get to it until > tomorrow morning. Thank you; it's not urgent for me, as kino currently works. I just wanted to open a bug report. Also: it seems that since the last time I used send-pr Spamassassin was placed between the recipients of send-pr and dynamic hosts. So it looks as if it may be best for people to be told to use the web interface for bugs, since send-pr seems to use the localhost MTA, rather than SMTP AUTH. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 08:19:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8737E8 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF56AEC for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:19:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=3tYB2OTDbZ6uAE8xOlxESUS6Hor/x24S5hW3B57oqKk=; b=x9CbgLgjc31V+9Q4wuddIs4hY3xO1VOO0aVH5KDTKVmdTE9uCuCNq5BIJyjTjl/K6oHT1pdfwZJrw/FDlXOv8zav9QVCvTC0rWYWpId2lrAoESth00PSSpbYc7JQz6s5; Received: from [125.163.96.175] (port=18637 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TuImM-0048uf-7u; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:18:55 -0700 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:18:50 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: gpart, glabel and newfs --> what am I doing wrong Message-ID: <20130113151850.5d50bdf1@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20130113063621.GB63271@neutralgood.org> References: <20130112192220.617e28b6@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130113080900.1a0045f8@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130113063621.GB63271@neutralgood.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:19:03 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:36:21 -0500 kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 08:09:00AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > For what is glabel then still good? > > It is still useful for partition schemes that don't have labels (eg, > MBR) AND the filesystem used doesn't support labels itself AND the > end of the partition does not get touched by the filesystem. > > Note that UFS in FreeBSD does support labels. I believe it is the '-L' > option to newfs. ZFS does not in this sense, and ZFS touches the end > of the partition. > > That's a long list of conditions. So, really, glabel should typically > be avoided. > thanks for the explaination. I am not able to use the labels outside gpart but if they work for me - as it currently looks like - I will stick with them. I will later report in more detail when I have finished my scripts. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 10:09:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24024273 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:09:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (mail-wi0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BB0E61 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id hn17so671544wib.12 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:09:06 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=4XsMvcM3aQozDf3lxvNq4Ods0q1j29NKCkvhrNBROtE=; b=L9Neofl8/4mHtqbc4icRc3MUJIkibxDh9br8022LfpmbUxDd1LhHuLGf+I+2Ic025S IgM4qf18QNZCPsSc7r5AxRM00X2TvHhjogrCqMjvcpoEFJ/8mLyAaAJHsUXwvO0xVrYX jmL2QI7d2uUQFR13aaqF/QuHdEM8Ca8fcl1WP0z3Ukowli/yfaP1c91eJmt70JB7cbyX tpLmqlJgrrvveoHcOzx3PYH6g2RV2O8C+oyl86mKmn4Sxu5y4mjLDPGCFXZ/NeXQHe/x BC0Dwh1XEzKd5hck7Q6TSIg89tFu4Obk9xvLNNUag3R6wYKZbRL3GookQSRKaqwIaZ91 efqQ== X-Received: by 10.194.179.34 with SMTP id dd2mr129589985wjc.1.1358071746227; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.30.151] ([95.87.236.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e6sm8122004wiz.1.2013.01.13.02.09.04 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:09:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F287BD.7030708@aboutsupport.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:09:01 +0200 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Jails References: <50F0297B.3020604@aboutsupport.com> <20130111163129.47e44ce4@mr129166> <50F03DB9.4020209@aboutsupport.com> <20130111131913.049ad0b0@tech304.office.supranet.net> <50F1113C.3090703@aboutsupport.com> <27B0EF0C-CC6D-46E4-960A-ABCAA157D2CD@fisglobal.com> In-Reply-To: <27B0EF0C-CC6D-46E4-960A-ABCAA157D2CD@fisglobal.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnLmxkMVOLQFzAYt/ifXRS7lSrV3WOlUNO3soLDJhNVhm/84EjHkOBVC6U7G9joZmOO1PjV Cc: Mark Felder , Devin Teske , Devin Teske X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:09:08 -0000 On 12/01/2013 18:41, Devin Teske wrote: > > On Jan 11, 2013, at 11:31 PM, Zyumbilev, Peter wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have not tested it, but so far things do not look promising... >> >> I cannot even run "netstat -nvatp" properly, however sopcast seemed to >> run, but have not tested it, for plex - have not tried yet. >> > > netstat isn't allowed in traditional jails (but is allowed in "vimage" jails which have their own network stack). > > If you're able/willing to compile a new kernel to enable the "VIMAGE" feature, then this can be improved so that you can indeed use netstat within the jail. > > NOTE: netstat is not allowed within traditional (non-VIMAGE) jails due to security restrictions. > My host os is Nas4Free and is stripped version of freebsd - e.g I cannot even compile ports - that is why I use jails - so no new kernel for me there :) So far I am quite happy with it - I use it mainly as DLNA server(Serviio), ZFS,UPS support & Transmission made it quite good platform - would take plenty of time to get all this in plain FreeBSD install. The only thing that I might be missing is Plex, but due to lack "browser per folder feature", I will stick to open standard - DLNA. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 15:36:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FC0C7A for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:36:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE793A41 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:36:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0DFa38Z015988; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:36:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0DFa3hH015985; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:36:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:36:03 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: gpart, glabel and newfs --> what am I doing wrong In-Reply-To: <20130113063621.GB63271@neutralgood.org> Message-ID: References: <20130112192220.617e28b6@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130113080900.1a0045f8@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130113063621.GB63271@neutralgood.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:36:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: Erich Dollansky , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:36:06 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jan 2013, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 08:09:00AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> For what is glabel then still good? > > It is still useful for partition schemes that don't have labels (eg, MBR) > AND the filesystem used doesn't support labels itself AND the end of the > partition does not get touched by the filesystem. But it doesn't matter what the filesystem does. Access to the last block is not allowed by the label device. The filesystem does not even see it. See my reply in -fs: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2013-January/016113.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 15:45:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB53ADFC for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D840A97 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0DFjWD1016031; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:45:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0DFjWbZ016028; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:45:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:45:32 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: gpart, glabel and newfs --> what am I doing wrong In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20130112192220.617e28b6@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130113080900.1a0045f8@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130113063621.GB63271@neutralgood.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 08:45:32 -0700 (MST) Cc: Erich Dollansky , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:45:34 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jan 2013, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2013, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 08:09:00AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: >>> For what is glabel then still good? >> >> It is still useful for partition schemes that don't have labels (eg, MBR) >> AND the filesystem used doesn't support labels itself AND the end of the >> partition does not get touched by the filesystem. > > But it doesn't matter what the filesystem does. Access to the last block is > not allowed by the label device. The filesystem does not even see it. See > my reply in -fs: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2013-January/016113.html Sorry, forgot to mention that one possible use for glabel is to label a swap partition on an MBR drive. # glabel label myswap /dev/ada0s1b And then in /etc/fstab: /dev/label/myswap none swap sw 0 0 One block is used for metadata at the end of ada0s1b, but it's safe from overwriting because /dev/label/myswap does not include that block. 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:45:35 -0000 >________________________________=0A=0A> From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" =0A>To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org =0A>Cc: Mark Felder ; Devin Teske ; Devin Teske =0A>Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:09 AM=0A>Subject: Re: Jai= ls=0A> =0A>=0A>On 12/01/2013 18:41, Devin Teske wrote:=0A>> =0A>> On Jan 11= , 2013, at 11:31 PM, Zyumbilev, Peter wrote:=0A>> =0A>>> Hi,=0A>>>=0A>>> I = have not tested it, but so far things do not look promising...=0A>>>=0A>>> = I cannot even run "netstat -nvatp" properly, however sopcast seemed to=0A>>= > run, but have not tested it, for plex - have not tried yet.=0A>>>=0A>> = =0A>> netstat isn't allowed in traditional jails (but is allowed in "vimage= " jails which have their own network stack).=0A>> =0A>> If you're able/will= ing to compile a new kernel to enable the "VIMAGE" feature, then this can b= e improved so that you can indeed use netstat within the jail.=0A>> =0A>> N= OTE: netstat is not allowed within traditional (non-VIMAGE) jails due to se= curity restrictions.=0A>> =0A>=0A>My=A0 host os is Nas4Free and is stripped= version of freebsd - e.g I=0A>cannot even compile ports - that is why I us= e jails - so no new kernel=0A>for me there :)=0A>=0A>So far I am quite happ= y with it=A0 - I use it mainly as DLNA=0A>server(Serviio), ZFS,UPS support = & Transmission made it quite good=0A>platform - would take plenty of time t= o get all this in plain FreeBSD=0A>install.=0A>=0A>The only thing that I mi= ght be missing is Plex, but due to lack "browser=0A>per folder feature", I = will stick to open standard - DLNA.=0A>=0A>Peter=0A=0A=0AHi, I've installed= debian 6 in a jail, from FreeBsd 9.1 x86-64 by following the instructions = from this thread. However, I also updated my /etc/resolv.conf inside the ja= il, but I get this error when I do ping:=0A=0A=0Aserver# /etc/rc.d/jail sta= rt debian=0AConfiguring jails:.=0AStarting jails: debian.=0A=0A=0Aserver# j= ls=0A=A0=A0 JID=A0 IP Address=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Hostname=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Path=0A=A0=A0=A0 13=A0 192.168.0= .250=A0=A0 debian=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 /usr/home/jails/debian=0A=0A=0Aserver# jexec 13 bash=0Aroot@de= bian:/# uname -a=0ALinux debian 2.6.32 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0 r243825: Tue = Dec=A0 4 09:23:10 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux=0A=0A=0Aroot@debian:/# ping www.g= oogle.com=0AWARNING: =0AWARNING: your kernel is veeery old. No problems.=0A= PING www.google.com (173.194.42.17) 56(84) bytes of data.=0Aping: recvmsg: = Invalid argument=0Aping: recvmsg: Invalid argument=0A=0AApart from getting = those ping errors, I cannot "apt-get update":=0A=0Aroot@debian:/# apt-get u= pdate=0AGet:1 http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates Release.gpg [836 B= ]=0AIgn http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/contrib Translation-en= =0AGet:2 http://ftp.debian.org squeeze Release.gpg [1672 B]=0AIgn http://ft= p.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/contrib Translation-en=0A99% [Working]FATAL ->= Could not set non-blocking flag Bad file descriptor=0AE: Method http has d= ied unexpectedly!=0AE: Sub-process http returned an error code (100)=0A=0AI= need apt-get to install g++, to be able to compile a linux c++ app from Fr= eeBsd.=0A=0A-- =0ALeonardo M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.blogspot.com=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 15:48:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BFFFB5 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de (wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de [IPv6:2a01:488:42::50ed:8591]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81EA3AD2 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from p5b379bb4.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.55.155.180] helo=dijkstra.cruwe.de.cruwe.de); authenticated by wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) id 1TuPn5-0006cm-QB; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:48:08 +0100 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:48:06 +0100 Message-ID: <864nil84p5.wl%cjr@cruwe.de> From: Christopher J. Ruwe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SPAM-flag on FBSD list User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?B?R29qxY0=?=) APEL/10.8 Emacs/24.2 (amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;cjr@cruwe.de;1358092090;c3f7d1af; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:48:10 -0000 Hello, while testing a new mail configuration on freebsd-test@, I noticed a very interesting part in the header, which I just paste Old-X-HE-Spam-Score: -2.3 Old-X-HE-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-2.3 points) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [8.8.178.116 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 TVD_SPACE_RATIO TVD_SPACE_RATIO X-HE-SPF: PASSED Curious about who is the culprit in the chain, I did [cjr@dijkstra:~]$ dig -x 8.8.178.116 (01-13 16:42) ; <<>> DiG 9.8.3-P4 <<>> -x 8.8.178.116 ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33133 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;116.178.8.8.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ;; ANSWER SECTION: 116.178.8.8.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR mx2.FreeBSD.org. ;; Query time: 96 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.178.1#53(192.168.178.1) ;; WHEN: Sun Jan 13 16:42:11 2013 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 71 Are the FreeBSD-mail servers spammers? Anyhow, have a nice week, cheers, -- Christopher TZ: GMT + 2h GnuPG/GPG: 0xE8DE2C14 FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE #4 r245101: Sun Jan 6 21:13:49 CET 2013 cjr@dijkstra.cruwe.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DIJKSTRA Punctuation matters: "Lets eat Grandma or Lets eat, Grandma" - Punctuation saves lives. "A panda eats shoots and leaves" or "A panda eats, shoots, and leaves" - Punctuation teaches proper biology. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 16:06:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25335343 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@chthonixia.net) Received: from www5.pairlite.com (www5.pairlite.com [64.130.10.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044B9B5D for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from whisperer.chthonixia.net (unknown [184.152.30.105]) by www5.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 912DB2E2D4; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:06:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:06:50 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Christopher J. Ruwe" Subject: Re: SPAM-flag on FBSD list Message-ID: <20130113160650.GA39662@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: <864nil84p5.wl%cjr@cruwe.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <864nil84p5.wl%cjr@cruwe.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:06:06 -0000 On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 04:48:06PM +0100, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > > Hello, > > while testing a new mail configuration on freebsd-test@, I noticed a > very interesting part in the header, which I just paste > > Old-X-HE-Spam-Score: -2.3 > Old-X-HE-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-2.3 points) > pts rule name description > ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- > -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium > trust > [8.8.178.116 listed in list.dnswl.org] >From the org's web page: dnswl.org: DNS Whitelist - Protect against false positives What is dnswl.org? Dnswl.org is the leading whitelist provider for email filtering. It has over 80'000 users and contains more than 150'000 entries of "good mailservers". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 17:24:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8111F601 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:24:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E65FF5 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa01.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0DHNuOx010335 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:24:02 -0600 Received: from [10.0.0.102] (10.14.152.61) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.309.2; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:23:55 -0600 Subject: Re: Jails MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: <1358091928.24135.YahooMailNeo@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 09:23:54 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <0445C043-8460-40BD-81A9-5AC0580F584A@fisglobal.com> References: <50F0297B.3020604@aboutsupport.com> <20130111163129.47e44ce4@mr129166> <50F03DB9.4020209@aboutsupport.com> <20130111131913.049ad0b0@tech304.office.supranet.net> <50F1113C.3090703@aboutsupport.com> <27B0EF0C-CC6D-46E4-960A-ABCAA157D2CD@fisglobal.com> <50F287BD.7030708@aboutsupport.com> <1358091928.24135.YahooMailNeo@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.61] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-01-13_06:2013-01-11,2013-01-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:24:04 -0000 On Jan 13, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 wrote: >> ________________________________ >=20 >> From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" >> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org=20 >> Cc: Mark Felder ; Devin Teske ; Devin = Teske =20 >> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:09 AM >> Subject: Re: Jails >>=20 >>=20 >> On 12/01/2013 18:41, Devin Teske wrote: >>>=20 >>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 11:31 PM, Zyumbilev, Peter wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hi, >>>>=20 >>>> I have not tested it, but so far things do not look promising... >>>>=20 >>>> I cannot even run "netstat -nvatp" properly, however sopcast seemed to >>>> run, but have not tested it, for plex - have not tried yet. >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> netstat isn't allowed in traditional jails (but is allowed in "vimage" = jails which have their own network stack). >>>=20 >>> If you're able/willing to compile a new kernel to enable the "VIMAGE" f= eature, then this can be improved so that you can indeed use netstat within= the jail. >>>=20 >>> NOTE: netstat is not allowed within traditional (non-VIMAGE) jails due = to security restrictions. >>>=20 >>=20 >> My host os is Nas4Free and is stripped version of freebsd - e.g I >> cannot even compile ports - that is why I use jails - so no new kernel >> for me there :) >>=20 >> So far I am quite happy with it - I use it mainly as DLNA >> server(Serviio), ZFS,UPS support & Transmission made it quite good >> platform - would take plenty of time to get all this in plain FreeBSD >> install. >>=20 >> The only thing that I might be missing is Plex, but due to lack "browser >> per folder feature", I will stick to open standard - DLNA. >>=20 >> Peter >=20 >=20 > Hi, I've installed debian 6 in a jail, from FreeBsd 9.1 x86-64 by followi= ng the instructions from this thread. However, I also updated my /etc/resol= v.conf inside the jail, but I get this error when I do ping: ping is usually denied from within a jail (for security purposes). Add the following to /etc/rc.conf: jail_sysvipc_allow=3D"YES" And then reboot. --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 18:34:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F237B07 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f47.google.com (mail-bk0-f47.google.com [209.85.214.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAC8339 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f47.google.com with SMTP id j4so1598066bkw.6 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:34:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=15gVGHCrOJ5ZgALoBsuekrMg9xyTiey0bI8g5d0W5QI=; b=yn2LcOTkvWwvIKAenMaFYEg/+qjT7aRqfm4dSF0WUTxQnJvqgW5o3011ydcLnmfPWY 6K1LhsL/zZZ1AwLX7xIhM9iIUUSQVIw8Y6kHGgni10QKpB8n1knxIuqgruW13n2K3fia pH2GeNxpSt3FszRF8MzOF0bfYIfqfWSRcMcpF+gBTq8oCkqDMap7hIZGB0DDYAfu87tZ Mn/xShuRXN2Cqgy4AYxJtPyE07rUd1dMJvr9XeF7ILcDaoHgpQwEEhz5pkwhL5EbEehR h+6VXNVengLkkVwIAlK8bfOs6Lt6sJIrbH3K84ck+hMqe+Z2LxyxCxV4rIzqV3YP42CW /IfQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.7.78 with SMTP id c14mr39247792bkc.100.1358102070965; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:34:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.75.211 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:34:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130113052123.GA38280@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: <20130113020114.GA23658@whisperer.chthonixia.net> <20130113052123.GA38280@whisperer.chthonixia.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:34:30 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Regarding: Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:34:38 -0000 On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Joe Altman wrote: > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 06:21:28PM -0800, Waitman Gobble wrote: > >> Hi, > > > > If the email contact is as listed it seems there is not a specific person > > who has taken the port. I found your email to the ports list with the > > attached config.log. I will take a look at the problem and probably find > a > > solution. I'm heading out for the evening so I may not get to it until > > tomorrow morning. > > Thank you; it's not urgent for me, as kino currently works. I just > wanted to open a bug report. > > Also: it seems that since the last time I used send-pr Spamassassin was > placed between the recipients of send-pr and dynamic hosts. So it looks > as if it may be best for people to be told to use the web interface for > bugs, since send-pr seems to use the localhost MTA, rather than SMTP > AUTH. > Hi, Yeah i think it just sends through sendmail on the local machine. You may find it convenient to use the web interface. Your config.log says you are running FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Oct 22 00:16:27 EDT 2012, you should consider upgrading to 9.1, which was released in December. I just tried a make in kino and received this error, but I picked 'use kino ffmpeg'. Option number is ambiguous (number-footnotes, number-sections looks like this is happening in ffmpeg/Makefile doc/%.html: doc/%.texi texi2html -monolithic -number $< mv $(@F) $@ changed to doc/%.html: doc/%.texi texi2html -monolithic -number-sections $< mv $(@F) $@ seems to fix in this case. (but this is a different error than you were receiving, i'll get it figured out.) -- Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 18:57:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A6810D for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1ED4639 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.145] by nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2013 18:57:16 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.253] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2013 18:57:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1066.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2013 18:57:16 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 208715.37893.bm@omp1066.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 44988 invoked by uid 60001); 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Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:15:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F1C965; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:15:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:15:24 -0800 Message-ID: <50F315DB.4070301@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:15:23 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console References: <50EF0F2B.1030801@a1poweruser.com> <20130110233325.783e1d42.freebsd@edvax.de> <06da01cdef84$9f327ca0$dd9775e0$@freebsd.org> <20130111004126.8abe07ce.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130111004126.8abe07ce.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2013 20:15:24.0413 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8775AD0:01CDF1CA] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: scotteberl@gmail.com, dteske@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:15:23 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:48:33 -0800, dteske@freebsd.org wrote: >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >>> questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Polytropon >>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:33 PM >>> To: Fbsd8 >>> Cc: scotteberl@gmail.com; questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console >>> >>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:57:47 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: >>>> Scott Eberl wrote: >>>>> I went ahead and installed the FreeBSD handbook onto my system and I was >>>>> able to find it on disk per the motd notes but I'm wondering if there is a >>>>> preferred method for reading these since they are in html format. I tried >>>>> w3m and lynx and it looks like they are both not installed. Is there >>>>> something i'm missing for reading these or do I just need to install a cli >>>>> browser? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Viewing html takes some form of browser. >>> There is no text mode web browser in the base system. >>> Installing one is easy: As the HTML files generated >>> for the Handbook are good quality, they display nicely >>> in lynx, links, and w3m (probably the most prominent >>> three text mode web browsers). >>> >>> >> I must know... >> >> What is Polytropon's favorite of those listed? (and perhaps also "elinks" ?) > > Hard to say, now that X is everywhere... :-) > > In the past, I've started using lynx because it was "the > default". Somehow I even tend to remember that it was part > of the default installation in around FreeBSD 4 or so... > but that could be wrong. > > Later on I tried w3m and also found it usable. > > Today I'd say I prefer links for interactive text mode > browsing. Still "lynx -dump" is a welcome tool in some > of my scripts, and never change a running system. :-) > > Reading the pkg-descr of elinks it seems to bring lots > of extensions, some interesting, some not that interesting > (at least for the use discussed here: reading FreeBSD > supplied local documentation: no need for cookies, scripts, > or HTTP referers). Other features like the ability to > render tables might be a reason not to use a browser > that cannot do this (maybe lynx can't?). > > > >> (and do you enable console graphics?) > > No, I have to admit that I've never even _tried_ that. > Somehow deep inside my brain there's the statement that > "graphics in console mode is libvga which is for Linux, > not for FreeBSD", but that might not apply anymore. > > However, The FreeBSD Handbook and the FAQ mostly contain > text, I mean, that's what they are about, and for reading > text I don't see a need for graphics. If I want graphics, > I have X. :-) > > > What do you mean by "enable console graphics"? Is this something different than x11? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 20:35:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BF6149; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100C1A42; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.31]) by ltcfislmsgpa01.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0DKZIEj015968 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:35:18 -0600 Received: from [10.0.0.102] (10.14.152.61) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.309.2; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:35:17 -0600 Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: <50F315DB.4070301@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:35:15 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <50EF0F2B.1030801@a1poweruser.com> <20130110233325.783e1d42.freebsd@edvax.de> <06da01cdef84$9f327ca0$dd9775e0$@freebsd.org> <20130111004126.8abe07ce.freebsd@edvax.de> <50F315DB.4070301@a1poweruser.com> To: Fbsd8 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.61] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-01-13_07:2013-01-11,2013-01-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Scott Eberl , Devin Teske , Polytropon , questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:35:25 -0000 On Jan 13, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: > Polytropon wrote: >> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:48:33 -0800, dteske@freebsd.org wrote: >>>=20 >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >>>> questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Polytropon >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:33 PM >>>> To: Fbsd8 >>>> Cc: scotteberl@gmail.com; questions@freebsd.org >>>> Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console >>>>=20 >>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:57:47 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: >>>>> Scott Eberl wrote: >>>>>> I went ahead and installed the FreeBSD handbook onto my system and I= was >>>>>> able to find it on disk per the motd notes but I'm wondering if ther= e is a >>>>>> preferred method for reading these since they are in html format. I = tried >>>>>> w3m and lynx and it looks like they are both not installed. Is there >>>>>> something i'm missing for reading these or do I just need to install= a cli >>>>>> browser? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>> Viewing html takes some form of browser. >>>> There is no text mode web browser in the base system. >>>> Installing one is easy: As the HTML files generated >>>> for the Handbook are good quality, they display nicely >>>> in lynx, links, and w3m (probably the most prominent >>>> three text mode web browsers). >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>> I must know... >>>=20 >>> What is Polytropon's favorite of those listed? (and perhaps also "elink= s" ?) >> Hard to say, now that X is everywhere... :-) >> In the past, I've started using lynx because it was "the >> default". Somehow I even tend to remember that it was part >> of the default installation in around FreeBSD 4 or so... >> but that could be wrong. >> Later on I tried w3m and also found it usable. >> Today I'd say I prefer links for interactive text mode >> browsing. Still "lynx -dump" is a welcome tool in some >> of my scripts, and never change a running system. :-) >> Reading the pkg-descr of elinks it seems to bring lots >> of extensions, some interesting, some not that interesting >> (at least for the use discussed here: reading FreeBSD >> supplied local documentation: no need for cookies, scripts, >> or HTTP referers). Other features like the ability to >> render tables might be a reason not to use a browser >> that cannot do this (maybe lynx can't?). >>> (and do you enable console graphics?) >> No, I have to admit that I've never even _tried_ that. >> Somehow deep inside my brain there's the statement that >> "graphics in console mode is libvga which is for Linux, >> not for FreeBSD", but that might not apply anymore. >> However, The FreeBSD Handbook and the FAQ mostly contain >> text, I mean, that's what they are about, and for reading >> text I don't see a need for graphics. If I want graphics, >> I have X. :-) >=20 > What do you mean by "enable console graphics"? > Is this something different than x11? Yes, some console-based browsers support displaying graphics directly on th= e console (read: ttyv*). --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 20:48:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3423495C; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:48:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D3AADB; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.80]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E5C24F80; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:47:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0DKm1Rn002203; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:48:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:48:01 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console Message-Id: <20130113214801.3ce70c97.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <50F315DB.4070301@a1poweruser.com> References: <50EF0F2B.1030801@a1poweruser.com> <20130110233325.783e1d42.freebsd@edvax.de> <06da01cdef84$9f327ca0$dd9775e0$@freebsd.org> <20130111004126.8abe07ce.freebsd@edvax.de> <50F315DB.4070301@a1poweruser.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: scotteberl@gmail.com, dteske@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:48:01 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:15:23 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: > What do you mean by "enable console graphics"? > Is this something different than x11? The is a famous library, svgalib, a "low level console graphics library" which can - under _very_ specific circumstances - display graphics "on" the text mode console. There are few browsers, image viewers and even media players that can use this interface to display "console graphics" while _not_ needing X. However, this only works for local displays. As soon as there is a serial or SSH connection involved, it doesn't work anymore. I've actually never seen this working on FreeBSD; maybe it's just a Linuxism. Maybe it's just because I've never tried. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 21:42:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DEAEB4 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:42:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de (wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de [IPv6:2a01:488:42::50ed:8591]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EFCE4B for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from p5b379dcf.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.55.157.207] helo=dijkstra); authenticated by wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (SSL3.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) id 1TuVJb-0004xt-Cs; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:42:03 +0100 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:42:01 +0100 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SPAM-flag on FBSD list Message-ID: <20130113224201.297bd01a@dijkstra> In-Reply-To: <20130113160650.GA39662@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: <864nil84p5.wl%cjr@cruwe.de> <20130113160650.GA39662@whisperer.chthonixia.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;cjr@cruwe.de;1358113326;99cf2a8e; X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:42:06 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:06:50 -0500 Joe Altman wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 04:48:06PM +0100, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > while testing a new mail configuration on freebsd-test@, I noticed a > > very interesting part in the header, which I just paste > > > > Old-X-HE-Spam-Score: -2.3 > > Old-X-HE-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-2.3 points) > > pts rule name description > > ---- ---------------------- > > -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 > > RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, > > medium trust [8.8.178.116 listed in list.dnswl.org] > > >From the org's web page: > > dnswl.org: DNS Whitelist - Protect against false positives > > What is dnswl.org? > > Dnswl.org is the leading whitelist provider for email filtering. It > has over 80'000 users and contains more than 150'000 entries of "good > mailservers". > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Thanks for the explanation, the wl part of the domain and the negative number escaped me completly. Sorry for the noise, cheers, -- Christopher TZ: GMT + 2h GnuPG/GPG: 0xE8DE2C14 FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE #4 r245101: Sun Jan 6 21:13:49 CET 2013 cjr@dijkstra.cruwe.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DIJKSTRA Punctuation matters: "Lets eat Grandma or Lets eat, Grandma" - Punctuation saves lives. "A panda eats shoots and leaves" or "A panda eats, shoots, and leaves" - Punctuation teaches proper biology. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 21:51:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E31026C; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:51:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00364ECB; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:51:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0DLoxEl018674; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:50:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0DLowH1018671; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:50:58 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:50:58 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console In-Reply-To: <20130113214801.3ce70c97.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <50EF0F2B.1030801@a1poweruser.com> <20130110233325.783e1d42.freebsd@edvax.de> <06da01cdef84$9f327ca0$dd9775e0$@freebsd.org> <20130111004126.8abe07ce.freebsd@edvax.de> <50F315DB.4070301@a1poweruser.com> <20130113214801.3ce70c97.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:50:59 -0700 (MST) Cc: scotteberl@gmail.com, dteske@freebsd.org, Fbsd8 , questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:51:05 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jan 2013, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:15:23 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: >> What do you mean by "enable console graphics"? >> Is this something different than x11? > > The is a famous library, svgalib, a "low level console graphics > library" which can - under _very_ specific circumstances - display > graphics "on" the text mode console. There are few browsers, > image viewers and even media players that can use this interface > to display "console graphics" while _not_ needing X. > > However, this only works for local displays. As soon as there > is a serial or SSH connection involved, it doesn't work anymore. > > I've actually never seen this working on FreeBSD; maybe it's > just a Linuxism. Maybe it's just because I've never tried. :-) I tried it years ago. It was more trouble than it was worth. 640x400 (AFAIR), with eight glorious VGA colors, chosen by IBM for their ugliness. Also, it was prone to crashing the machine. There is a plain ASCII version of the Handbook along with the other formats at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 22:01:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9E679E for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:01:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from nm30-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967BDFC3 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm30.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2013 21:58:32 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.244] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2013 21:58:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1058.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2013 21:58:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 357099.27879.bm@omp1058.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 38412 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jan 2013 21:58:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1358114312; bh=AHcj2VI4KW+7jgdk8iDHkXftLbN+Ui7rvCgFhhy1Chc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uDeDY/1xWFeauYY6b23EBCTLdCIwv1KYfDfvyDlU+uNj3ROT0RWhwInpqxr4X60WfP2u4ovUDGAKWwa9iAEB4jJ+cGpnOWLoqorv9pJylq2TkHg+5pyMAf9s/koAJiK+0V096UqnydnCtWmg0Hy0ra4hXWEJDTLhKUyu0npAPsw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lt1OLp9mHAwzxjCqrF//EB7ixWFWC/Jg0P7SxEQGC10sqUifyCdjjXYpip4RGyS+1PPOSSb0vGGTzYiHZnHoQDgK5pOEAluS8152GUdngByH1QZ63FJwqYdFWwcFKQk38hM9azYt/V1+HECci5rzKGvEMSWk0eb6Nhw2q20L33A=; X-YMail-OSG: s3jjhxoVM1lYISoJaoO3SxpRNW3gOLTofKClN33I8La8Y1M XDPr7pgA18hCoMQHI8NmqMtB29P8MXQNRb6M6m_uLhZthCFjSq3aAi8FIp1U pyC268Ff8r3AuUGy2F5YD8.Ycv7aMo7GCWRDjilYXLQd1dSQuQrE7eK551Ya 1FPLmCMyrmVjjwIyC1pXDXXBk7_J.MceL1DijOz1u8TChnrEaAQQ66rBngt9 oY5VKfxnu6aM_1mEVoq5jwXZm4wIe1.Pi7_DV68zWqPvTT3qqFg5sST8N96W yvWlewFR24RjHGmIGS9zXqV_NWQjrG9gJyZs7mg5kyaZRT7A4KnlZBxKXiUn XmaYQ4_ZJuQSz2ubIoMV4LgmlNRsFyj0aOj._VeOlPHicsw9us0ZDaSrQKrE Jq.XDj9Grr9zSAHjw4lHPJhrW0SLYocq_gHtdO0.2tjXMCXZhkJ_8Av1h_vk u49cr8jPT6eGKLJpQ9zaaUwMtDhBNLZF7a7K0AJp3s_g8H2ZsTZHrvzg7dSJ 8hw_Gr7IYlTDZjBvTH_BAeCTu0i3psgPHP1xyM4aLSIcSZBmsAF5vzq8c6XM untbBDtGRP7f4hCn3M51keeI4K9BR2dKCt4RVqAstPr4SnOJUOep0KkpI9xX hEW6gUpRjB850RDtRgJCRU0EncSU3T_LiQqHO_zRs7ocT6qps8SxRgH8cpLg 4jp687TsD9w-- Received: from [190.17.8.72] by web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 13:58:31 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, CgotLS0tLSBPcmlnaW5hbCBNZXNzYWdlIC0tLS0tCgo.IEZyb206IERldmluIFRlc2tlIDxkZXZpbi50ZXNrZUBmaXNnbG9iYWwuY29tPgo.IFRvOiBMZW9uYXJkbyBNLiBSYW3DqSA8bWFydGlucmFtZUB5YWhvby5jb20.Cj4gQ2M6ICJmcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9uc0BGcmVlQlNELm9yZyIgPGZyZWVic2QtcXVlc3Rpb25zQEZyZWVCU0Qub3JnPgo.IFNlbnQ6IFN1bmRheSwgSmFudWFyeSAxMywgMjAxMyAyOjIzIFBNCj4gU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IEphaWxzCj4gCj4gCj4gT24gSmFuIDEzLCAyMDEzLCBhdCA3OjQBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.130.494 References: <50F0297B.3020604@aboutsupport.com> <20130111163129.47e44ce4@mr129166> <50F03DB9.4020209@aboutsupport.com> <20130111131913.049ad0b0@tech304.office.supranet.net> <50F1113C.3090703@aboutsupport.com> <27B0EF0C-CC6D-46E4-960A-ABCAA157D2CD@fisglobal.com> <50F287BD.7030708@aboutsupport.com> <1358091928.24135.YahooMailNeo@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <0445C043-8460-40BD-81A9-5AC0580F584A@fisglobal.com> Message-ID: <1358114311.12585.YahooMailNeo@web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 13:58:31 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= Subject: Re: Jails To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" In-Reply-To: <0445C043-8460-40BD-81A9-5AC0580F584A@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:01:36 -0000 =0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0A=0A> From: Devin Teske =0A> To: Leonardo M. Ram=E9 =0A> Cc: "fre= ebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" =0A> Sent: Sunda= y, January 13, 2013 2:23 PM=0A> Subject: Re: Jails=0A> =0A> =0A> On Jan 13,= 2013, at 7:45 AM, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 wrote:=0A> =0A>>> __________________= ______________=0A>> =0A>>> From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" =0A>>> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org =0A>>> Cc: Mark Felder ; Devin Teske =0A> ; Devin Teske =0A>>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:09 AM=0A>>> Subject:= Re: Jails=0A>>> =0A>>> =0A>>> On 12/01/2013 18:41, Devin Teske wrote:=0A>= >>> =0A>>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 11:31 PM, Zyumbilev, Peter wrote:=0A>>>> = =0A>>>>> Hi,=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>> I have not tested it, but so far things do = not look =0A> promising...=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>> I cannot even run "netstat -nv= atp" properly, however =0A> sopcast seemed to=0A>>>>> run, but have not te= sted it, for plex - have not tried yet.=0A>>>>> =0A>>>> =0A>>>> netstat is= n't allowed in traditional jails (but is allowed in =0A> "vimage" jails whi= ch have their own network stack).=0A>>>> =0A>>>> If you're able/willing to= compile a new kernel to enable the =0A> "VIMAGE" feature, then this can be= improved so that you can indeed use =0A> netstat within the jail.=0A>>>> = =0A>>>> NOTE: netstat is not allowed within traditional (non-VIMAGE) jails= =0A> due to security restrictions.=0A>>>> =0A>>> =0A>>> My=A0 host os is = Nas4Free and is stripped version of freebsd - e.g I=0A>>> cannot even comp= ile ports - that is why I use jails - so no new kernel=0A>>> for me there = :)=0A>>> =0A>>> So far I am quite happy with it=A0 - I use it mainly as DL= NA=0A>>> server(Serviio), ZFS,UPS support & Transmission made it quite goo= d=0A>>> platform - would take plenty of time to get all this in plain Free= BSD=0A>>> install.=0A>>> =0A>>> The only thing that I might be missing is= Plex, but due to lack =0A> "browser=0A>>> per folder feature", I will sti= ck to open standard - DLNA.=0A>>> =0A>>> Peter=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Hi, I've = installed debian 6 in a jail, from FreeBsd 9.1 x86-64 by =0A> following the= instructions from this thread. However, I also updated my =0A> /etc/resolv= .conf inside the jail, but I get this error when I do ping:=0A> =0A> ping i= s usually denied from within a jail (for security purposes).=0A> =0A> Add t= he following to /etc/rc.conf:=0A> =0A> jail_sysvipc_allow=3D"YES"=0A> =0A> = And then reboot.=0A=0AI've tried that, but I got the same results:=0A=0Aroo= t@debian:/# ping www.google.com=0AWARNING: setsockopt(ICMP_FILTER): Protoco= l not available=0AWARNING: your kernel is veeery old. No problems.=0APING w= ww.google.com (173.194.42.16) 56(84) bytes of data.=0Aping: recvmsg: Invali= d argument=0Aping: recvmsg: Invalid argument=0Aping: recvmsg: Invalid argum= ent=0Aping: recvmsg: Invalid argument=0A=0A--- www.google.com ping statisti= cs ---=0A4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3078ms= =0A=0Aroot@debian:/#=0A=0A=0A=0A=A0=0ALeonardo M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardor= ame.blogspot.com=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 22:12:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3794158 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:12:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@chthonixia.net) Received: from www5.pairlite.com (www5.pairlite.com [64.130.10.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794E0175 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from whisperer.chthonixia.net (unknown [184.152.30.105]) by www5.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DAEAF2E2BD; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:12:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:12:47 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Waitman Gobble Subject: Re: Regarding: Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Message-ID: <20130113221247.GA40399@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: <20130113020114.GA23658@whisperer.chthonixia.net> <20130113052123.GA38280@whisperer.chthonixia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:12:05 -0000 On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:34:30AM -0800, Waitman Gobble wrote: > > Hi, > > Yeah i think it just sends through sendmail on the local machine. You may > find it convenient to use the web interface. Your config.log says you are > running FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Oct 22 00:16:27 EDT 2012, you should > consider upgrading to 9.1, which was released in December. My very, very, bad mistake: I forget to mention in this email thread my current uname -a, which is in the send-pr that was rejected: FreeBSD whisperer.chthonixia.net 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0 r245243: Wed Jan 9 18:25:14 EST 2013 root@whisperer.chthonixia.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WHISPERER amd64 Since I did not think the bug would be addressed via this thread, I'm really sorry to have wasted your time; I should have thought to submit another PR via the web interface with my current environment. I can do that that so a proper bug report is opened unless you think it unnecessary. Best regards, Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 22:19:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E9B61C for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:19:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D8B1C6 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TuVuO-00033z-9z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 23:20:04 +0100 Received: from 65.75.36.70 ([65.75.36.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 23:20:04 +0100 Received: from wbparsons by 65.75.36.70 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 23:20:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Will Parsons Subject: problem compiling X11 ports under 9.1-RELEASE Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 19 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.75.36.70 User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: wbparsons@cshore.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:19:58 -0000 I've recently installed 9.1-RELEASE on a laptop and am in the process of installing the ports that I want. On several now, I've encountered error messages that I don't know how to deal with and for which I don't see anything in the UPDATING file that seems to be relevant. For example, trying to build both graphics/xv and x11-clocks/wmclock results failure with the primary error message being: imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/local/lib/X11/config Imakefile.c:16: error: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory followed by: make: don't know how to make all. Stop This happens both using portmaster (my usual method of installing ports) and installing manually (cd /usr/ports/x/y; make). Imake seems to be installed (pkg_version reports imake-1.0.4,1) so I don't know where to go from here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 22:21:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25C56CD; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EAB61DB; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:21:01 -0800 Message-ID: <50F3334D.1070206@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:21:01 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console References: <50EF0F2B.1030801@a1poweruser.com> <20130110233325.783e1d42.freebsd@edvax.de> <06da01cdef84$9f327ca0$dd9775e0$@freebsd.org> <20130111004126.8abe07ce.freebsd@edvax.de> <50F315DB.4070301@a1poweruser.com> <20130113214801.3ce70c97.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130113214801.3ce70c97.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2013 22:21:02.0074 (UTC) FILETIME=[454325A0:01CDF1DC] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: scotteberl@gmail.com, dteske@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:21:01 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:15:23 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: >> What do you mean by "enable console graphics"? >> Is this something different than x11? > > The is a famous library, svgalib, a "low level console graphics > library" which can - under _very_ specific circumstances - display > graphics "on" the text mode console. There are few browsers, > image viewers and even media players that can use this interface > to display "console graphics" while _not_ needing X. > > However, this only works for local displays. As soon as there > is a serial or SSH connection involved, it doesn't work anymore. > > I've actually never seen this working on FreeBSD; maybe it's > just a Linuxism. Maybe it's just because I've never tried. :-) > > > > I use links/svgalib on my host without problems, the worst I can say is the mouse pointer is jumpy. So console graphics = any thing that uses this single svgalib. I understand now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 22:55:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7587A33 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:55:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A193232A for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id r0DMwZNi010880; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:58:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:58:35 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201301132258.r0DMwZNi010880@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@edvax.de Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console In-Reply-To: <20130113214801.3ce70c97.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:55:31 -0000 > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:48:01 +0100 > From: Polytropon > To: Fbsd8 > Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console > Cc: scotteberl@gmail.com, dteske@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org > > On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:15:23 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: > > What do you mean by "enable console graphics"? > > Is this something different than x11? > > The is a famous library, svgalib, a "low level console graphics > library" which can - under _very_ specific circumstances - display > graphics "on" the text mode console. There are few browsers, > image viewers and even media players that can use this interface > to display "console graphics" while _not_ needing X. > > However, this only works for local displays. As soon as there > is a serial or SSH connection involved, it doesn't work anymore. > > I've actually never seen this working on FreeBSD; maybe it's > just a Linuxism. Maybe it's just because I've never tried. :-) > Works fine on FreeBSD -- graphics-mode screen-savers (like 'fire') use it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 23:16:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745E2F2 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 23:16:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175653FD for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 23:16:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TuWnN-0001Z6-Fd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:16:53 +0100 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:16:53 +0100 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:16:53 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: problem compiling X11 ports under 9.1-RELEASE Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 23:16:25 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 23:16:40 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:01:25 +0000, Will Parsons wrote: > I've recently installed 9.1-RELEASE on a laptop and am in the process of > installing the ports that I want. On several now, I've encountered > error messages that I don't know how to deal with and for which I don't > see anything in the UPDATING file that seems to be relevant. > For example, trying to build both graphics/xv and x11-clocks/wmclock > results failure with the primary error message being: > > imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/local/lib/X11/config Imakefile.c:16: error: > Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory > > followed by: > > make: don't know how to make all. Stop > > This happens both using portmaster (my usual method of installing ports) > and installing manually (cd /usr/ports/x/y; make). > > Imake seems to be installed (pkg_version reports imake-1.0.4,1) so I > don't know where to go from here. I tried x11-clocks/wmclock and it compiled successfully in seconds. $ locate Imake.tmpl /usr/local/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl $ pkg which /usr/local/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl /usr/local/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl was installed by package xorg-cf- files-1.0.4 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 00:01:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFB9968 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:01:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6921575A for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:01:21 -0800 Message-ID: <50F34AD1.8020207@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:01:21 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console References: <201301132258.r0DMwZNi010880@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201301132258.r0DMwZNi010880@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2013 00:01:21.0983 (UTC) FILETIME=[49685CF0:01CDF1EA] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:01:21 -0000 Robert Bonomi wrote: >> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:48:01 +0100 >> From: Polytropon >> To: Fbsd8 >> Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console >> Cc: scotteberl@gmail.com, dteske@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org >> >> On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:15:23 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: >>> What do you mean by "enable console graphics"? >>> Is this something different than x11? >> The is a famous library, svgalib, a "low level console graphics >> library" which can - under _very_ specific circumstances - display >> graphics "on" the text mode console. There are few browsers, >> image viewers and even media players that can use this interface >> to display "console graphics" while _not_ needing X. >> >> However, this only works for local displays. As soon as there >> is a serial or SSH connection involved, it doesn't work anymore. >> >> I've actually never seen this working on FreeBSD; maybe it's >> just a Linuxism. Maybe it's just because I've never tried. :-) >> > > Works fine on FreeBSD -- graphics-mode screen-savers (like 'fire') > use it. > How do you activate graphics-mode screen-savers (like 'fire')? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 01:00:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8920B59B for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 01:00:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C7C92D for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 01:00:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by ltcfislmsgpa03.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0E10EJv013229 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:00:14 -0600 Received: from [10.0.0.102] (10.14.152.61) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.309.2; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:00:13 -0600 Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: <50F34AD1.8020207@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:00:11 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <094B2D7B-2D1B-4AC5-8CD1-2B0BC5CDCE9E@fisglobal.com> References: <201301132258.r0DMwZNi010880@mail.r-bonomi.com> <50F34AD1.8020207@a1poweruser.com> To: Fbsd8 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.61] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-01-13_08:2013-01-11,2013-01-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 01:00:16 -0000 On Jan 13, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Fbsd8 wrote: > Robert Bonomi wrote: >>> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:48:01 +0100 >>> From: Polytropon >>> To: Fbsd8 >>> Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console >>> Cc: scotteberl@gmail.com, dteske@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org >>>=20 >>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:15:23 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: >>>> What do you mean by "enable console graphics"? >>>> Is this something different than x11? >>> The is a famous library, svgalib, a "low level console graphics >>> library" which can - under _very_ specific circumstances - display >>> graphics "on" the text mode console. There are few browsers, >>> image viewers and even media players that can use this interface >>> to display "console graphics" while _not_ needing X. >>>=20 >>> However, this only works for local displays. As soon as there >>> is a serial or SSH connection involved, it doesn't work anymore. >>>=20 >>> I've actually never seen this working on FreeBSD; maybe it's >>> just a Linuxism. Maybe it's just because I've never tried. :-) >>>=20 >> Works fine on FreeBSD -- graphics-mode screen-savers (like 'fire') >> use it. > How do you activate graphics-mode screen-savers (like 'fire')? Try adding to /boot/loader.conf: screensave_load=3D"YES" screensave_name=3D"fire_saver" --=20 Devin P.S. The default is "green_saver" (which blanks the console, saving energy = making it "green"). _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 01:01:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FF8643 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 01:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F96947 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 01:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7813A71084 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:01:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30995 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2013 01:01:15 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 11259, pid: 29196, t: 1.3144s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13513 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Jan 2013 01:01:13 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4275C33C1D; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:01:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 2DA3639829; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:01:06 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: sh script problem with capturing return code References: <50EC9009.3030305@a1poweruser.com> <20130108224626.8c2d89cd.freebsd@edvax.de> <50EC99F2.3020404@a1poweruser.com> <44d2xevlhb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <50ED88CF.7060308@a1poweruser.com> <448v82unxb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <444niqum7n.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44zk0it6t5.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44r4ltu8zp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <50EE2604.4020809@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:01:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: <50EE2604.4020809@a1poweruser.com> (fbsd8@a1poweruser.com's message of "Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:23:00 -0500") Message-ID: <44pq188tnx.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: FreeBSD questions , Lowell Gilbert X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 01:01:22 -0000 Fbsd8 writes: > Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> Lowell Gilbert writes: >> >>> I think it's a real bug, and the test cases don't cover "extra" elements >>> at all. Now I just have to figure out the right fix. >> >> I'm pretty sure that the fix is just to set rval on jumping to the >> "extra" tag in vwalk() in src/usr.sbin/mtree/verify.c. >> >> But my hot water heater just exploded, so I may not look at code for a >> few more days. > > Hello Lowell, > Thank you very much. > I was going crazy trying different combinations of options and script > logic. I want to thank you for taking my problem seriously and taking > the time to do your own test cases to verify my findings. Now that I > know it's a genuine bug in mtree, I can make my plans accordingly. Any > fix to the mtree utility will take some time to filter down to a > regular RELEASE. Maybe 9.2 or the big jump to 10.0 by the end of > 2013. I will leave it up to you the file a PR on this and follow > through. > Thanks again, people like you are what makes this questions list so > valuable and FreeBSD such a great OS. You did outstanding work. Actually, in retrospect I think it was pretty trivial. I think the following patch is the right fix for the problem, although I am not completely certain. ================================================================ Index: /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/verify.c =================================================================== --- /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/verify.c (revision 245177) +++ /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/verify.c (working copy) @@ -149,6 +149,7 @@ } (void)fts_set(t, p, FTS_SKIP); } + rval = MISMATCHEXIT; (void)fts_close(t); if (sflag) warnx("%s checksum: %lu", fullpath, (unsigned long)crc_total); ================================================================ This fixes the problem that was bothering you, but the interactions of different features are complicated, and many of them are documented in fairly loose language. Would you be interested in extending the test suite for this program? There are some tests in /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/test/, but they don't cover your issue. I'm particularly concerned with interactions between mtree(8) options like -u, -U, -q, -d, and specification keywords like "optional", "nochange", and "ignore". I would feel more comfortable if someone else wrote up new test cases (because programmers generally don't -- can't -- test their own blind spots), although I'll certainly do it if no one else does. I haven't submitted a PR yet, but I'll do so as soon as I've translated my test case into a form that can be used in the PR. [As an upside, I've learned about the fts_ family, which I hadn't really looked at before.] Be well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 01:04:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EC56EE for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 01:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48EF9960 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 01:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF56DA71084 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:04:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2939 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2013 01:04:12 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 31862, pid: 16880, t: 0.3554s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Jan 2013 01:04:11 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B87833C1D; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:04:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id AC3FE39829; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:04:04 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Adam Vande More Subject: Re: sh script problem with capturing return code References: <50EC9009.3030305@a1poweruser.com> <20130108224626.8c2d89cd.freebsd@edvax.de> <50EC99F2.3020404@a1poweruser.com> <44d2xevlhb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <50ED88CF.7060308@a1poweruser.com> <448v82unxb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <444niqum7n.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44zk0it6t5.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44r4ltu8zp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:04:04 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Adam Vande More's message of "Wed, 9 Jan 2013 21:07:57 -0600") Message-ID: <44libw8tiz.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 01:04:13 -0000 Adam Vande More writes: > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Lowell Gilbert < > freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote: > >> Lowell Gilbert writes: >> >> > I think it's a real bug, and the test cases don't cover "extra" elements >> > at all. Now I just have to figure out the right fix. >> >> I'm pretty sure that the fix is just to set rval on jumping to the >> "extra" tag in vwalk() in src/usr.sbin/mtree/verify.c. >> >> But my hot water heater just exploded, so I may not look at code for a >> few more days. > > > I think they are importing NetBSD's updated mtree, perhaps already fixed > there. It isn't. Which means I probably should submit fixes to multiple places. Although NetBSD's changes seem fairly minor to me, from a quick look. The merge should not be difficult, no matter how it's approached. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 02:53:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC500C50 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:53:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3C9DD1 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.80]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14912465B; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:53:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0E2rZsg003493; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:53:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:53:35 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console Message-Id: <20130114035335.bcf234fd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201301132258.r0DMwZNi010880@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <20130113214801.3ce70c97.freebsd@edvax.de> <201301132258.r0DMwZNi010880@mail.r-bonomi.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:53:41 -0000 On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:58:35 -0600 (CST), Robert Bonomi wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:48:01 +0100 > > From: Polytropon > > To: Fbsd8 > > Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console > > Cc: scotteberl@gmail.com, dteske@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org > > > > On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:15:23 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: > > > What do you mean by "enable console graphics"? > > > Is this something different than x11? > > > > The is a famous library, svgalib, a "low level console graphics > > library" which can - under _very_ specific circumstances - display > > graphics "on" the text mode console. There are few browsers, > > image viewers and even media players that can use this interface > > to display "console graphics" while _not_ needing X. > > > > However, this only works for local displays. As soon as there > > is a serial or SSH connection involved, it doesn't work anymore. > > > > I've actually never seen this working on FreeBSD; maybe it's > > just a Linuxism. Maybe it's just because I've never tried. :-) > > > > Works fine on FreeBSD -- graphics-mode screen-savers (like 'fire') > use it. Oh, _that_ is this functionality? I've in fact tried and seen this working, I think... with the "logo" saver showing Beastie sliding across the screen, and with the "warp" saver. I assume it's the same functionality behind the option to show a spash screen when the system is booting (after the kernel has been loaded). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 03:49:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B40672 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@conundrum.com) Received: from kaywinnit.conundrum.com (smtp.conundrum.com [IPv6:2001:4900:1:213::2:20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E69FC1 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chani.conundrum.com ([216.235.10.34]) by kaywinnit.conundrum.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Tub3D-000290-ES; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:49:31 +0000 From: Matthew Pounsett Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:49:25 -0500 Subject: freebsd-update won't update 8.2-R-p9 to p10 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <1EEDBF63-D64B-4153-B446-ADA69F753583@conundrum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 03:49:32 -0000 I can't seem to get freebsd-update to do the jump from 9.2-RELEASE-p9 to = p10. This is what I'm getting. > sudo freebsd-update fetch Password: Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 8.2-RELEASE from = update5.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. The following files are affected by updates, but no changes have been downloaded because the files have been modified locally: /var/db/mergemaster.mtree No updates needed to update system to 8.2-RELEASE-p10. =20 WARNING: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p9 HAS PASSED ITS END-OF-LIFE DATE. Any security issues discovered after Wed Aug 1 00:00:00 UTC 2012 will not have been corrected. Note the complaint about mergemaster.mtree. I haven't modified that, so = I'm not sure why it's complaining. It may be a red herring anyway = though. However, since no changes have been downloaded, an install does = nothing. > sudo freebsd-update install No updates are available to install. Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch' first. However, after a reboot, I'm still running p9. > uname -a FreeBSD obfuscated.com 8.2-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon = Jun 11 23:00:11 UTC 2012 = root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I'm running a generic kernel, which should be updated according to the = freebsd-update docs. Any suggestions for how to get this to complete? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 05:11:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF96D72 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tigersharke@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-f54.google.com (mail-qa0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD371C9 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:11:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id j15so1177650qaq.6 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:11:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yRcM0mqxNbqMr1WdvPjJuJlNpRYATqT4mtWoCyKdI00=; b=e9XWKmZJtzoYGKOMLsfVfSwqI8BgdkOy+E6tqyWacmjlwVrkqx5qZZK9q05skBk6ow X1j9tKVthk48g9G4FeIThtLFm2fO3o9ePR6m+3lTjUarRXjZG73jmviNvnBw3ctMIzaZ Ev8CgoyGD/mgIXdz3LBY4+AiJRuVHhA3bkGPW8YnvtzmaSK6wXRt5jLp/+U/8HbonSU/ L4uS3bZbQHIdjiU7+DDUTW+mc1RHRX25xcp+Q1CuXgZrNm7JRd3a9OIfV0MJyPTLL3tP 9PtpLfkq5GFN2zDfgrJdoQGgKMMjDjkkpTdhlQMB0FyN/pzgD+X6cvqyZgExpuoa7Nfc UYww== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.77.13 with SMTP id e13mr17050165qck.69.1358140275478; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.37.230 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:11:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 23:11:15 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD v9.1 Release Torrents? From: Curt Dox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:11:17 -0000 Hello! For those who are seeking a torrent for the various install media, one location they may be found is at http://gotbsd.net/ I wish you success! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 05:34:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C422A7 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:34:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53A2249 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id r0E5bVXH014861 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 23:37:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 23:37:31 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201301140537.r0E5bVXH014861@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console In-Reply-To: <50F34AD1.8020207@a1poweruser.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:34:18 -0000 > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:01:21 -0500 > From: Fbsd8 > Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console > > How do you activate graphics-mode screen-savers (like 'fire')? apropos "screen saver" will point one in the right direction. I compile into a custom monolithic kernel. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 06:06:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E7545A for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A397436C for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TudBt-0003AL-25 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:06:39 +0100 Received: from 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl ([79.139.19.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:06:37 +0100 Received: from jb.1234abcd by 79-139-19-75.prenet.pl with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:06:37 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <20130113214801.3ce70c97.freebsd@edvax.de> <201301132258.r0DMwZNi010880@mail.r-bonomi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 79.139.19.75 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.12) Gecko/20130109 Firefox/10.0.12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:06:26 -0000 Robert Bonomi mail.r-bonomi.com> writes: > ... > > The is a famous library, svgalib, a "low level console graphics > > library" which can - under _very_ specific circumstances - display > > graphics "on" the text mode console. There are few browsers, > > image viewers and even media players that can use this interface > > to display "console graphics" while _not_ needing X. > ... > Works fine on FreeBSD -- graphics-mode screen-savers (like 'fire') > use it. ... Yes, it is famous indeed ... Is that still valid ? www.svgalib.org/svgalib.user.faq.html ... Why does a programs terminate immediatelly with "svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions."? svgalib programs need to be run as root. This means that either the user that runs them is root, or, if running by normal users is desirable, the program needs to be 'suid root', which means: the program must be owned by root (chown 0 program) and the suid bit needs to be set (chmod u+s program). ... jb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 06:53:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4AAAAF for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f49.google.com (mail-ee0-f49.google.com [74.125.83.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159C5705 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f49.google.com with SMTP id c4so1740983eek.36 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:53:04 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=7soDCCJ04s2nzP6sIIV2MJlimk18qzoJfrXTbZWmYmo=; b=n/oXnPuI0Q5OOKBfGe+ugSf9Yoi8nLkPBn9hA6InQgIChO9L05xW5fK0bupnpQhVtA ykWOkAszwNcxWFhkF4cyBBOchykdwIUUFNt18U+GU2BoA37/To7LZr/VeS0dy/l0w/yQ p7Mlb3dfmcxIWkPEgv0r04z6cA7v257ba30NtDW1J4bBNBB5LuV+cGiUy+aCc+Dlwgtv 4h0xKUEh+cGjOUOlVYiXPXW/Ay/YmhemPfmpBn6j6M+NwcR/j9wCMieIbI0sjJjBN9C+ yFegT/Zu2Uy8DitdgqIyp+xazZjpAWpXBcPiUFJUlFqcY6jJMPOF7Fy5vaWzP/GIBPE8 rfmg== X-Received: by 10.14.2.196 with SMTP id 44mr227912175eef.25.1358146384117; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:53:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.30.1.168] ([95.87.193.58]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l3sm9576371een.14.2013.01.13.22.53.02 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:53:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F3AB4C.50408@aboutsupport.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:53:00 +0200 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Jails References: <50F0297B.3020604@aboutsupport.com> <20130111163129.47e44ce4@mr129166> <50F03DB9.4020209@aboutsupport.com> <20130111131913.049ad0b0@tech304.office.supranet.net> <50F1113C.3090703@aboutsupport.com> <27B0EF0C-CC6D-46E4-960A-ABCAA157D2CD@fisglobal.com> <50F287BD.7030708@aboutsupport.com> <1358091928.24135.YahooMailNeo@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <0445C043-8460-40BD-81A9-5AC0580F584A@fisglobal.com> <1358114311.12585.YahooMailNeo@web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1358114311.12585.YahooMailNeo@web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlAtsooEzPs5X1z3Er59r05mN4tBdILfgb0SXkzfQD0lqgjn4Peoo1O6Sq2k1APWulb/4N9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:53:11 -0000 On 13/01/2013 23:58, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: > > > root@debian:/# ping www.google.com > WARNING: setsockopt(ICMP_FILTER): Protocol not available > WARNING: your kernel is veeery old. No problems. > PING www.google.com (173.194.42.16) 56(84) bytes of data. > ping: recvmsg: Invalid argument > ping: recvmsg: Invalid argument > ping: recvmsg: Invalid argument > ping: recvmsg: Invalid argument > > --- www.google.com ping statistics --- > 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3078ms > > root@debian:/# Hvae you run in FreeBSD: sysctl compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.32 ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 06:57:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92EFB67 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F75725 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f54.google.com with SMTP id c41so80234eek.41 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:57:02 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=to9xQ3fH3iJCNj0Hi2eHPazTLhggu7W4y15cItO1c3o=; b=jHFzygjrHxNzImvf9EFxTRRIdCXbFUinhev3026FHbvQI4WWOHCOHdY73zd/BRGLP0 o5pT18rA6wpqpP5j+w0WCtCJbkNOnHQSV2Q+FC2cIr3Q+cLbL9Rqgm8zbiFXLUAhRdBc mtUCndiI8zN6Dlx/kNrnYZ3lUckhOuGFxKAaQckZx7VCx6EgORhNCd1u6vexjgJyFHZX B9kNpTkEwNikjkXfOTGeI6kP3tXoRmpeae5PuXp6bWKFxSqmgkWGFe91fSaGYcwxLAzE XHDrKtPOwfN+ZL6cLhUrvZzXHhGKc7FNIlQKfi8kws7/9bAnPzCkbeIVFwfBt64zjgQm DpHw== X-Received: by 10.14.219.72 with SMTP id l48mr228563920eep.37.1358146622153; Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:57:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.30.1.168] ([95.87.193.58]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b49sm20539232eem.16.2013.01.13.22.57.01 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:57:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F3AC3B.4030909@aboutsupport.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:56:59 +0200 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?Ikxlb25hcmRvIE0uIFJhbcOpIg==?= Subject: Re: Jails References: <50F0297B.3020604@aboutsupport.com> <20130111163129.47e44ce4@mr129166> <50F03DB9.4020209@aboutsupport.com> <20130111131913.049ad0b0@tech304.office.supranet.net> <50F1113C.3090703@aboutsupport.com> <27B0EF0C-CC6D-46E4-960A-ABCAA157D2CD@fisglobal.com> <50F287BD.7030708@aboutsupport.com> <1358091928.24135.YahooMailNeo@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <0445C043-8460-40BD-81A9-5AC0580F584A@fisglobal.com> <1358114311.12585.YahooMailNeo@web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1358114311.12585.YahooMailNeo@web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk4BfzSSrd+qa7WL7DraHzRJGgY4/Fq62Mr670MoiIPeyAiMNiMeU06WHWzmFJ1Vyc3pqOQ Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:57:03 -0000 On 13/01/2013 23:58, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: > root@debian:/# ping www.google.com > WARNING: setsockopt(ICMP_FILTER): Protocol not available > WARNING: your kernel is veeery old. No problems. > PING www.google.com (173.194.42.16) 56(84) bytes of data. > ping: recvmsg: Invalid argument > ping: recvmsg: Invalid argument > ping: recvmsg: Invalid argument > ping: recvmsg: Invalid argument > > --- www.google.com ping statistics --- > 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3078ms > > root@debian:/# > > > Also make sure you /etc/resolv.conf looks like this: nameserver 8.8.8.8 Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 10:51:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B07F81A for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:51:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonios.atlasis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB3F297 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id gb23so3339475vcb.14 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:51:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NkhPtU8wr1x6/uHNF8R7ioG9HKNg74IlcbEgv6IU3zo=; b=lQ7EKHSwatnWSvn99FEJCcHPKfIlKC3Wl2hpH6L20FbYHm52PrfzXegEGVpqWTdeef llyO0WUPNswSw2riA8QuDWkcd5IDk0xZ7BhuVmUh12/0MY4m4P/69xzzLffvBqMMs1MG yTtyXo2A2OM1THFZ03+iRW20qoXValdNkXzBdu0G8N/SvMoO+WmlERo/gkNn4WH1vyEo qjc/uO0R6V50jnZBQBVOESiBowlro6QENGR3aDQMqZDT3kay/Fc5O1NowZYVhuEP7Ksx vROaYtQp6z6E6BUh1O8mrjwN42xQeXzPTWgi6IWF4NeODVMsF8mZtIj2xxgkpjfZWlkA cPXw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.247.132 with SMTP id ye4mr105306804vec.9.1358160687751; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:51:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.80.10 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 02:51:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:51:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: CUPS building error in FreeBSD 9.1 From: Antonios Atlasis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:51:33 -0000 Hello to the list, I made a fresh install of FreeBSD 9.1 on a 74bit system and I am trying to install everything I need using ports and not packages. However, when I try to install cups (version 1.5.4), even in the default configuration, I receive the following build errors: echo Linking ippserver... Linking ippserver... cc -L../cgi-bin -L../cups -L../filter -L../ppdc -L../scheduler -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wunused -fPIC -Os -g -fstack-protector -o ippserver ippserver.o ../cups/libcups.a \ -lssl -lcrypto -pthread -lcrypt -lm -lssp_nonshared -liconv -lz ../cups/libcups.a(http.o): In function `http_write_ssl': /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:4637: undefined reference to `gnutls_record_send' ../cups/libcups.a(http.o): In function `_httpWait': /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:2901: undefined reference to `gnutls_record_check_pending' ../cups/libcups.a(http.o): In function `http_setup_ssl': /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:3965: undefined reference to `gnutls_certificate_allocate_credentials' /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:3967: undefined reference to `gnutls_init' /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:3968: undefined reference to `gnutls_set_default_priority' /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:3969: undefined reference to `gnutls_server_name_set' /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:3971: undefined reference to `gnutls_credentials_set' /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:3972: undefined reference to `gnutls_transport_set_ptr' /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:3973: undefined reference to `gnutls_transport_set_pull_function' /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:3974: undefined reference to `gnutls_transport_set_push_function' /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:3976: undefined reference to `gnutls_handshake' /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:3981: undefined reference to `gnutls_error_is_fatal' /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:3986: undefined reference to `gnutls_strerror' /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:3988: undefined reference to `gnutls_deinit' /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:3989: undefined reference to `gnutls_certificate_free_credentials' ../cups/libcups.a(http.o): In function `http_shutdown_ssl': /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:4320: undefined reference to `gnutls_bye' /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:4321: undefined reference to `gnutls_deinit' /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:4322: undefined reference to `gnutls_certificate_free_credentials' ../cups/libcups.a(http.o): In function `http_read_ssl': /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:3466: undefined reference to `gnutls_record_recv' ../cups/libcups.a(http.o): In function `httpInitialize': /usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.5.4/cups/http.c:1527: undefined reference to `gnutls_global_init' gmake[1]: *** [ippserver] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/print/cups-base/work/cups-1.5.4/test' gmake: *** [all] Error 1 *** [do-build] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/cups-base. *** [install] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/cups-base. *** [build-depends] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/cups. Any help is highly appreciated Regards Antonios From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 11:01:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBCDF3E for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89B7343 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:01:34 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=KKHY/S5o c=1 sm=0 a=Dm9TOXL4taQ+Gy1KovpL+A==:17 a=DvSzqBOGy98A:10 a=pedpZTtsAAAA:8 a=PrrHOEuwQO8A:10 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=shQWiPbfvKu2Pp2hfDsA:9 a=qTqToS705uYA:10 a=9lRgDFa-zy0A:10 a=Dm9TOXL4taQ+Gy1KovpL+A==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller6724@bellsouth.net; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.130.198.7 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.130.198.7] ([74.130.198.7:49952] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id 47/2E-27613-EB3E3F05; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:53:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:53:50 -0500 Message-ID: <47.2E.27613.EB3E3F05@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SPAM-flag on FBSD list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:01:35 -0000 FreeBSD emailing lists are not spammers, though they let some spams through that their filters miss. Insight Cable uses synacor.com spam-filtering (dis)service that the Insight Cable user can't turn off. This remedy is worse than the disease in my case because it causes bounces, and then my list membership is disabled. Just a few days ago, I switched my FreeBSD lists email address back to the old-but-still-working AT&T-Yahoo bellsouth.net email. But synacor.com only filtered out a small percentage of FreeBSD list messages, some but not all of which were spams. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 11:08:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003E8959 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp1.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0821733 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:07:59 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=KKHY/S5o c=1 sm=0 a=Dm9TOXL4taQ+Gy1KovpL+A==:17 a=WY9FGO1x_-8A:10 a=DvSzqBOGy98A:10 a=pedpZTtsAAAA:8 a=3d9ut0HBClYA:10 a=M701ezbeJozwVfrvfSkA:9 a=Dm9TOXL4taQ+Gy1KovpL+A==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller6724@bellsouth.net; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: softfail (smtp01.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.130.198.7 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.130.198.7] ([74.130.198.7:48138] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id 4D/FE-27613-276E3F05; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:05:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:05:22 -0500 Message-ID: <4D.FE.27613.276E3F05@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:08:00 -0000 On my now-older computer (from July 2001, 256 MB RAM), svgalib ran on FreeBSD but was very crash-prone. svgalib in Linux was erratic and caused color distortions when switching to an X window. So I decided I wanted no part of svgalib on the new computer, FreeBSD or Linux. Use ASCII art or framebuffer? Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 12:07:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191B154C for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-f176.google.com (mail-ia0-f176.google.com [209.85.210.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D05E3A for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:07:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f176.google.com with SMTP id i18so357334iac.7 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 04:07:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=FIMqvkq2WQeQgCPaLUjOvU6U/1y9u+Wyy2hMbGQpfcA=; b=m9p9WN3cZEb+SFajvfZuIlJlwZHY6CRC0uJX6Fw4FK/+JosnTtxZ2ifqcSot254E9g cr1iCVOqg99Z+6wmeNza5sJP9+emXOKpbcPd0WhCuveSlWqLR9YsfOy/SbYNKmR8l7hj U/ao8a8pSsPLTo3AicQBbg8ni2BXBxg6iDQu7qJQc7OB7Bv0vArPpIVVsz1+qvGO6d+G dLQzSAbZ9Vc8XPcCgdQKSNrddExQl5K4AxgyvNJRgebev8pcoysMQiZdyqfLsBLlOMCR 0XdQOtXWEL/y4LiaTwotWlYlK46ZyGcWmA1zRpTmemMa3nbwMoKmjGhLN5XwCPZbymW9 PE/A== Received: by 10.50.219.229 with SMTP id pr5mr6854710igc.64.1358165247353; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 04:07:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.19.71 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 04:07:07 -0800 (PST) From: n j Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:07:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: pkgng package repository tracking security updates To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:07:28 -0000 Hi, One of my primary concerns when managing a system is its security. In the interest of security, I usually hold to that "patch early, patch often". Ports are kept well up-to-date and with portmaster it is not a problem to keep updating the ports. However, as Ivan [1] pointed out on his blog on pkgng: "Having source-based ports is all fine and well but all that time compiling ports is subtracted from the time the server(s) would perform some actually useful work. After all, servers exist to do some work, not to be waited on while compiling. The same goes for me: I don't want to wait for ports anymore." I don't want to wait for compilation too, especially on large ports and weak hardware, and do it often to stay on top of security vulnerabilities. For that reason I look forward to binary packages. So, my question regarding pkgng is not really about the tool itself, but rather what will be provided via official repositories. One of the problems with the old pkg_* tools was that packages for a lot of software didn't exist and for those that did exist they weren't updated when vulnerabilities were discovered and patched upstream (and in ports). Is this going to improve with pkgng repositories, will there be a, say, -SECURITY repository that will build the new version of packages at least as often as security vulnerabilities are fixed in ports? [1] http://ivoras.net/blog/tree/2012-08-31.using-pkgng-in-real-life.html Regards, -- Nino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 12:41:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557FF3C5 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A13EFCB for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (server01.daniel-steuer.de [83.169.41.106]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EE02E5B49 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:41:16 +0400 (MSK) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:41:06 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reading the handbook from console Message-ID: <20130114124004.GA10285@external.screwed.box> References: <4D.FE.27613.276E3F05@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D.FE.27613.276E3F05@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 12:41:28 -0000 Hello. TM> On my now-older computer (from July 2001, 256 MB RAM), svgalib ran on FreeBSD but was very crash-prone. TM> TM> svgalib in Linux was erratic and caused color distortions when switching to an X window. TM> TM> So I decided I wanted no part of svgalib on the new computer, FreeBSD or Linux. TM> TM> Use ASCII art or framebuffer? If you're about to ascii then I'd say that 'svgatextmode' was great when I used linux. And, I don't believe the 'frame buffer' stuff is usable in freebsd. Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: 1754B9C1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 13:10:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7497E335 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:10:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrei693@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com (mail-la0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0667F1 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fr10so3837679lab.31 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:10:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=R+/0u+X7A6ga+5CulDLeLEzLTEpxPPdJhVyvzRfB54E=; b=GOf+qs2tzoklkyUSycc+Nro/q4+ditZhtTstxV5lfoxjYWfmZnree21nJ1BNXCwu1F dhFdT3BQb2IDUogrcwK4brlgTMa17KPdQhSC+HchQZfcXiX9zZUss3krRIYyejbQdlat Z1b2i2YV4wSdi7HZUBUCkiifOuKC1CUy5K2jN8NPcP9+5wsKaysjYgjnP2wBxRj0Cr62 Xfoe72oaKLVGVjlwHFshMAWRxO/fIFdBFNQuaPwJzLPS9+tMKI/scNpzGEOZW60SAEEP UshgIM1dgGZsOmsa5BcmDisDFaZzt44qzkfY0XXTz58N/3zf4CGb/4Fo1l4eQDoQT5zr HX7A== X-Received: by 10.152.125.240 with SMTP id mt16mr82020600lab.17.1358169039230; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:10:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([87.213.55.5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hq9sm5257240lab.8.2013.01.14.05.10.37 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:10:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F403C6.1030705@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:10:30 +0100 From: Andrei Brezan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgng package repository tracking security updates References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:10:41 -0000 On 1/14/2013 1:07 PM, n j wrote: > Hi, > > One of my primary concerns when managing a system is its security. In the > interest of security, I usually hold to that "patch early, patch often". > Ports are kept well up-to-date and with portmaster it is not a problem to > keep updating the ports. However, as Ivan [1] pointed out on his blog on > pkgng: > > "Having source-based ports is all fine and well but all that time compiling > ports is subtracted from the time the server(s) would perform some actually > useful work. After all, servers exist to do some work, not to be waited on > while compiling. The same goes for me: I don't want to wait for ports > anymore." > > I don't want to wait for compilation too, especially on large ports and > weak hardware, and do it often to stay on top of security vulnerabilities. > For that reason I look forward to binary packages. > > So, my question regarding pkgng is not really about the tool itself, but > rather what will be provided via official repositories. One of the problems > with the old pkg_* tools was that packages for a lot of software didn't > exist and for those that did exist they weren't updated when > vulnerabilities were discovered and patched upstream (and in ports). Is > this going to improve with pkgng repositories, will there be a, say, > -SECURITY repository that will build the new version of packages at least > as often as security vulnerabilities are fixed in ports? > > [1] http://ivoras.net/blog/tree/2012-08-31.using-pkgng-in-real-life.html > > Regards, Hi Nino, I thing that it's good to wait for ports to compile and to be able to chose your configure options for the packages you install. It's good to know what options you need and what options you don't and why, that's one of the reasons why i'm using FreeBSD. I feel that the goal for pkgng is that you can install your locally built binary packages in a tinderbox on all your infrastructure so you don't have to compile every port on every server. IIRC it was considered too cumbersome to compile all the ports tree for all the architectures supported and provide the so called official binary repositories. Regards, Andrei From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 13:28:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E423868 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1991C8A7 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 05:28:41 -0800 Message-ID: <50F40809.3020005@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:28:41 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert Subject: Re: sh script problem with capturing return code References: <50EC9009.3030305@a1poweruser.com> <20130108224626.8c2d89cd.freebsd@edvax.de> <50EC99F2.3020404@a1poweruser.com> <44d2xevlhb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <50ED88CF.7060308@a1poweruser.com> <448v82unxb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <444niqum7n.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44zk0it6t5.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44r4ltu8zp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44libw8tiz.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44libw8tiz.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2013 13:28:41.0396 (UTC) FILETIME=[118C3740:01CDF25B] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: Adam Vande More , FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:28:41 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Adam Vande More writes: > >> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Lowell Gilbert < >> freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote: >> >>> Lowell Gilbert writes: >>> >>>> I think it's a real bug, and the test cases don't cover "extra" elements >>>> at all. Now I just have to figure out the right fix. >>> I'm pretty sure that the fix is just to set rval on jumping to the >>> "extra" tag in vwalk() in src/usr.sbin/mtree/verify.c. >>> >>> But my hot water heater just exploded, so I may not look at code for a >>> few more days. >> >> I think they are importing NetBSD's updated mtree, perhaps already fixed >> there. > > It isn't. Which means I probably should submit fixes to multiple places. > > Although NetBSD's changes seem fairly minor to me, from a quick look. > The merge should not be difficult, no matter how it's approached. > > Let me be sure I understand you correctly. Your saying you tested the NetBSD version of mtree that was committed into 10.0 head and it also has the bug we found? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 14:15:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB88036B for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:15:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD65AA1 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rufus.webfusion.com (mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0EEFdkN044576 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:15:45 GMT (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.7.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r0EEFdkN044576 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r0EEFdkN044576; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (insecure policy) X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31] claimed to be rufus.webfusion.com Message-ID: <50F4130A.5050105@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:15:38 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130111 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgng package repository tracking security updates References: <50F403C6.1030705@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <50F403C6.1030705@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:15:56 -0000 On 14/01/2013 13:10, Andrei Brezan wrote: > I thing that it's good to wait for ports to compile and to be able to > chose your configure options for the packages you install. It's good to > know what options you need and what options you don't and why, that's > one of the reasons why i'm using FreeBSD. I feel that the goal for pkgng > is that you can install your locally built binary packages in a > tinderbox on all your infrastructure so you don't have to compile every > port on every server. IIRC it was considered too cumbersome to compile > all the ports tree for all the architectures supported and provide the > so called official binary repositories. No, that's not *the* goal for pkgng. The goal is to provide a state-of-the-art binary package management system for FreeBSD (and anyone else who would like to use it). For many users this will entail downloading pre-compiled packages from FreeBSD official repositories. But it will be possible for third parties to set up their own repositories, in the same way that eg. the Postgresql project has their own Yum repositories for RH-alikes. It will also be possible for people to compile their own packages either for direct installation, or to create their own private repositories to serve their own networks with their custom configured packages. And, ideally, people will be able to use a *mix* of the above as best suits their needs. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 14:23:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E639B552 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-f171.google.com (mail-ia0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB83AAF0 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:23:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f171.google.com with SMTP id q36so3627029iaq.2 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:23:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:cc:content-type; bh=Py3C++Gyw8EfKLZ3TC+C/3c7So8x6zURbq2co2kSsMA=; b=Mvr+6y3kX1Z3htQ2PBmfRQMnwyhR/Ws829rnmtwVDFYfA/coJlTYtYZUP0v68I9NG6 bPZb08ZY0RzlfbwWL6Ycw5Lfor0+pjHk8fi0PTKwl68sVgCV3ansVtLlEsbCDIaVj0fp fJLWR41HSAEKfgQidAWstOd3sf70mGqgjt5YM9isOihOTion5A2GPoSySU7/ilXWmMOb UJAS2481LAuWZhdZvZZnkfMOAeX8CDNXZcB9UDOiSv13G48ptmAZHg9c3XCg+ReCPvWU 9/J6saKKNIGYjJ9PQ3i5ZA6flX5YZc6wSohTspd7MHEw74/BL4VKKvl6GHNj5Omo2uCO hFyw== X-Received: by 10.50.173.33 with SMTP id bh1mr5854303igc.41.1358173392372; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:23:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.19.71 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:22:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F403C6.1030705@gmail.com> References: <50F403C6.1030705@gmail.com> From: n j Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:22:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkgng package repository tracking security updates Cc: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:23:19 -0000 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Andrei Brezan wrote: > On 1/14/2013 1:07 PM, n j wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> One of my primary concerns when managing a system is its security. In the >> interest of security, I usually hold to that "patch early, patch often". >> Ports are kept well up-to-date and with portmaster it is not a problem to >> keep updating the ports. However, as Ivan [1] pointed out on his blog on >> pkgng: >> >> "Having source-based ports is all fine and well but all that time >> compiling >> ports is subtracted from the time the server(s) would perform some >> actually >> useful work. After all, servers exist to do some work, not to be waited on >> while compiling. The same goes for me: I don't want to wait for ports >> anymore." >> >> I don't want to wait for compilation too, especially on large ports and >> weak hardware, and do it often to stay on top of security vulnerabilities. >> For that reason I look forward to binary packages. >> >> So, my question regarding pkgng is not really about the tool itself, but >> rather what will be provided via official repositories. One of the >> problems >> with the old pkg_* tools was that packages for a lot of software didn't >> exist and for those that did exist they weren't updated when >> vulnerabilities were discovered and patched upstream (and in ports). Is >> this going to improve with pkgng repositories, will there be a, say, >> -SECURITY repository that will build the new version of packages at least >> as often as security vulnerabilities are fixed in ports? >> >> [1] http://ivoras.net/blog/tree/**2012-08-31.using-pkgng-in-** >> real-life.html >> >> Regards, >> > Hi Nino, > > I thing that it's good to wait for ports to compile and to be able to > chose your configure options for the packages you install. It's good to > know what options you need and what options you don't and why, that's one > of the reasons why i'm using FreeBSD. I feel that the goal for pkgng is > that you can install your locally built binary packages in a tinderbox on > all your infrastructure so you don't have to compile every port on every > server. IIRC it was considered too cumbersome to compile all the ports tree > for all the architectures supported and provide the so called official > binary repositories. > > Regards, > Andrei > Hi Andrei, ports system is not going away with pkgng and it is still there for everyone who, like yourself, appreciates choosing all configure options and compile it by hand. I know that I'm not the only one who appreciates the practicality of binary packages and that is why I'm wondering if there are any plans for supplying the packages on a more consistent basis. I do understand that the infrastructure is limited and this might be cumbersome, but Linux distributions are doing it and while the same model probably isn't applicable to the smaller FreeBSD community, there are ways around that - building new versions only when (major?) security issues are identified, doing it for a limited scope of (most commonly used?) packages, using some kind of distributed hosting (e.g. torrents with maintainer-uploaded digital signatures) and so on. Regards, -- Nino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 14:35:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7EC929 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1210FB91 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:35:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 14 Jan 2013 09:35:08 -0500 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id CEM92996; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:35:08 -0500 X-Auth-ID: roberthuff@rcn.com Received: from 209-6-84-183.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org) ([209.6.84.183]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 14 Jan 2013 09:35:08 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20724.6043.689737.343567@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:35:07 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: change in buildworld output when gcc -> clang X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:35:15 -0000 Before the installation of clang and the default system compiler, "make buildworld" ended with a nice little banner announcing the fact and the time the build completed. After, it ends like this: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 14:35:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4903C92D for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30ABDB9D for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:35:16 -0800 Message-ID: <50F41797.2050001@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:35:03 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert Subject: Re: sh script problem with capturing return code References: <50EC9009.3030305@a1poweruser.com> <20130108224626.8c2d89cd.freebsd@edvax.de> <50EC99F2.3020404@a1poweruser.com> <44d2xevlhb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <50ED88CF.7060308@a1poweruser.com> <448v82unxb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <444niqum7n.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44zk0it6t5.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44r4ltu8zp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <50EE2604.4020809@a1poweruser.com> <44pq188tnx.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44pq188tnx.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2013 14:35:17.0120 (UTC) FILETIME=[5F2F5000:01CDF264] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:35:18 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Fbsd8 writes: > >> Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>> Lowell Gilbert writes: >>> >>>> I think it's a real bug, and the test cases don't cover "extra" elements >>>> at all. Now I just have to figure out the right fix. >>> I'm pretty sure that the fix is just to set rval on jumping to the >>> "extra" tag in vwalk() in src/usr.sbin/mtree/verify.c. >>> >>> But my hot water heater just exploded, so I may not look at code for a >>> few more days. >> Hello Lowell, >> Thank you very much. >> I was going crazy trying different combinations of options and script >> logic. I want to thank you for taking my problem seriously and taking >> the time to do your own test cases to verify my findings. Now that I >> know it's a genuine bug in mtree, I can make my plans accordingly. Any >> fix to the mtree utility will take some time to filter down to a >> regular RELEASE. Maybe 9.2 or the big jump to 10.0 by the end of >> 2013. I will leave it up to you the file a PR on this and follow >> through. >> Thanks again, people like you are what makes this questions list so >> valuable and FreeBSD such a great OS. You did outstanding work. > > Actually, in retrospect I think it was pretty trivial. I think the > following patch is the right fix for the problem, although I am not > completely certain. > > ================================================================ > Index: /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/verify.c > =================================================================== > --- /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/verify.c (revision 245177) > +++ /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/verify.c (working copy) > @@ -149,6 +149,7 @@ > } > (void)fts_set(t, p, FTS_SKIP); > } > + rval = MISMATCHEXIT; > (void)fts_close(t); > if (sflag) > warnx("%s checksum: %lu", fullpath, (unsigned long)crc_total); > ================================================================ > > This fixes the problem that was bothering you, but the interactions of > different features are complicated, and many of them are documented in > fairly loose language. > Is that the diplomatic way of saying the manpage for mtree sucks, and leaves a great deal to be desired? > > Would you be interested in extending the test suite for this program? > There are some tests in /usr/src/usr.sbin/mtree/test/, but they don't > cover your issue. I'm particularly concerned with interactions between > mtree(8) options like -u, -U, -q, -d, and specification keywords like > "optional", "nochange", and "ignore". I would feel more comfortable if > someone else wrote up new test cases (because programmers generally > don't -- can't -- test their own blind spots), although I'll certainly > do it if no one else does. > > I haven't submitted a PR yet, but I'll do so as soon as I've translated > my test case into a form that can be used in the PR. > > > Lowell here is my situation, I support a port and needed a method to interrogate the content of a small directory tree for correctness before processing it's content. I first developed a coding logic using mtree for this purpose, but that brought to light this mtree bug which is the subject of this post. Since my port only uses utilities that are contained in the base system of a RELEASE I could not very well wait for any patches to mtree to filter down into a RELEASE before updating my port. So instead I developed a coding logic using diff that does the same thing I was doing with mtree but diff issues the correct return codes. I have since updated my port in the ports system. When it comes to testing your patch sure I would like to. But here again I have a problem. For security reasons I can not use source code to install or update any operating system. I have no sources on my system to compile from. I use the fresh install method from a downloaded disc1.iso burned to cdrom. This way I know beyond a shadow of a doubt I have an un-compromised, clean, virgin system to start with and nothing present or left over from previous running systems that can be used to compromise the system. Now if you would use gzip to compress the binary patched version of mtree you have been testing with and email it directly to me offline of this list, then sure I will test it inside a jail and even play around with the other option flags your interested in and provide you feed back off list. Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 14:36:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D618A83 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-f170.google.com (mail-ia0-f170.google.com [209.85.210.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0379CBF6 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f170.google.com with SMTP id k20so3600758iak.29 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:36:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=miTSfxfxA1dWjdrnrrksWOXZCjuRv2G2IJzN785i21o=; b=VpbsN50MURl+BBtaPCxgX3Jrg5zK59TtwZ4uggXceVQZOCwrdlO++v0eMEwRdhWKBF jKXHkTAsDMhEtIvo9JNkUjKyjWWMPE7EJ6cFfz5aQraM3Sp+BMtLScoYxSwImC2pgDD+ 7cRS7AxyKYpy4UFagxloP0AFiqhhtY2lpOu/DKExULP2DoMtfzKeXwVz04zrcx5yUl0o hWXGoDTlZAJc3QB4MylwwCDnPb7L7kRZGINJqcVwpD3jFMhMaKt9Q9Vz2zweAWoDR8fm BJMXU7Ps5+3BBwo9zv+2URG0RoeybNTZ1WrRfSl9pCzFqcjWdEWdPD5Ydkzi4zuzz1kw KGuA== Received: by 10.42.98.80 with SMTP id r16mr51367282icn.45.1358174183583; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:36:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.19.71 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:36:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F4130A.5050105@freebsd.org> References: <50F403C6.1030705@gmail.com> <50F4130A.5050105@freebsd.org> From: n j Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:36:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkgng package repository tracking security updates To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:36:24 -0000 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 14/01/2013 13:10, Andrei Brezan wrote: > > I thing that it's good to wait for ports to compile and to be able to > > chose your configure options for the packages you install. It's good to > > know what options you need and what options you don't and why, that's > > one of the reasons why i'm using FreeBSD. I feel that the goal for pkgng > > is that you can install your locally built binary packages in a > > tinderbox on all your infrastructure so you don't have to compile every > > port on every server. IIRC it was considered too cumbersome to compile > > all the ports tree for all the architectures supported and provide the > > so called official binary repositories. > > No, that's not *the* goal for pkgng. > > The goal is to provide a state-of-the-art binary package management > system for FreeBSD (and anyone else who would like to use it). > > For many users this will entail downloading pre-compiled packages from > FreeBSD official repositories. But it will be possible for third > parties to set up their own repositories, in the same way that eg. the > Postgresql project has their own Yum repositories for RH-alikes. It > will also be possible for people to compile their own packages either > for direct installation, or to create their own private repositories to > serve their own networks with their custom configured packages. > > And, ideally, people will be able to use a *mix* of the above as best > suits their needs. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > Hi Matthew, The point of my question was exactly if it was possible to elaborate on the "pre-compiled packages from FreeBSD official repositories" part. Would it be possible to have a (security-wise) up-to-date pre-compiled packages in the official repositories? Note, I don't expect an unreasonable effort here - I understand there will always be delays between upstream fix --> ports fix --> up-to-date package and it is acceptable for the binary package to lag a few days behind the port (depending on the availability of package building cluster or maintainer upload). Regards, -- Nino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 14:43:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF9AD01 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3745DCCF for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:43:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rufus.webfusion.com (mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0EEhBww045044 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:43:11 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.7.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r0EEhBww045044 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1358174591; bh=SUzVUidLhS6BxoiyCCPUlstTEm8KYp0MKNkT6c04kWw=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Mon,=2014=20Jan=202013=2014:43:10=20+0000|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20n=20j=20|CC:=20User=20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20pkgng=20package=20repository=20tracking=20sec urity=20updates|References:=20=20<50F403C6.1030705@gmail.com >=20<50F4130A.5050105@freebsd.org>=20|In-Reply-To:=20; b=wexEoOoZ4CQPjYFQsQshwAqJlz9Oi+pDGePAKaYBQT9oOJIqCtUbELL4WwJwtDqa5 UgKRyWuAgU2yziwG6QR8OfR+chHKC5WxcZmvTGeV6zcwMSb6nXCOig4gOSB0DtiSAt tieIGBUHw5e0vmkDWmOGxZkqCZnVpPx0tJbWyKfE= X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31] claimed to be rufus.webfusion.com Message-ID: <50F4197E.8050003@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:43:10 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130111 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: n j Subject: Re: pkgng package repository tracking security updates References: <50F403C6.1030705@gmail.com> <50F4130A.5050105@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: User Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:43:15 -0000 On 14/01/2013 14:36, n j wrote: > The point of my question was exactly if it was possible to elaborate on the > "pre-compiled packages from FreeBSD official repositories" part. Would it > be possible to have a (security-wise) up-to-date pre-compiled packages in > the official repositories? Note, I don't expect an unreasonable effort here > - I understand there will always be delays between upstream fix --> ports > fix --> up-to-date package and it is acceptable for the binary package to > lag a few days behind the port (depending on the availability of package > building cluster or maintainer upload). Yes, there will be a pkgng package building cluster which will track updates to the ports and provide as up-to-date a collection of packages as possible for at least x86, amd64 on all supporter FreeBSD branches and head. Possibly other architectures as well. However, as all that is still under construction (and construction plans have been heavily revised in the light of the earlier security compromise) I have no good idea of what sort of turn-around will be possible. I expect at least as good as the old pkg build cluster managed and probably better. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 15:27:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535B33B6 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f51.google.com (mail-bk0-f51.google.com [209.85.214.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC45F41 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f51.google.com with SMTP id ik5so2058328bkc.38 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:26:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=4feBD89HruQpieoT2hZONJxMGetREuM+oMia+/OKc1Q=; b=ayRVqSO91oW7C2jY4F9VQXSg6SSif0prrIJuUHzYAKgDguS6mESQNsw251iNpvRqWB 3TF7azNjBD5AtcoVRpXVJkA2GEsKTil8B/3JCSAWKp6Q+W03gHit6B6sunR53DANwPSq bpVWvvacvRYRCZM3WjpjX8lxxxb21iE6HA/jqDaCBaYbi+V3Uh8XemmlvKdhNSCb9hLJ 6MJ3K1ZzY2Dq9ujtxR+5TieQ19eN86/Al3YJA203IKkHh2dibV38tBG/vRsUSeO8Jw84 2icddTsVUuTIVX2St0RC22+GgHBY18JoY+3XoxtHvh7YA8Ib7L1lxL/cuA7zNOBynDiY DGEQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.151.147 with SMTP id c19mr14792579bkw.54.1358177218025; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.75.211 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:26:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.75.211 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:26:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130113221247.GA40399@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: <20130113020114.GA23658@whisperer.chthonixia.net> <20130113052123.GA38280@whisperer.chthonixia.net> <20130113221247.GA40399@whisperer.chthonixia.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 07:26:57 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Regarding: Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. From: Waitman Gobble To: Joe Altman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:27:05 -0000 On Jan 13, 2013 2:12 PM, "Joe Altman" wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 10:34:30AM -0800, Waitman Gobble wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Yeah i think it just sends through sendmail on the local machine. You may > > find it convenient to use the web interface. Your config.log says you are > > running FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Oct 22 00:16:27 EDT 2012, you should > > consider upgrading to 9.1, which was released in December. > > My very, very, bad mistake: I forget to mention in this email thread my > current uname -a, which is in the send-pr that was rejected: > > FreeBSD whisperer.chthonixia.net 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0 > r245243: Wed Jan 9 18:25:14 EST 2013 > root@whisperer.chthonixia.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WHISPERER amd64 > > Since I did not think the bug would be addressed via this thread, I'm > really sorry to have wasted your time; I should have thought to submit > another PR via the web interface with my current environment. > > I can do that that so a proper bug report is opened unless you think it > unnecessary. > > Best regards, > > Joe hi, sounds like the newer uname info is farther down in config.log, and I just missed it. a pr is fine, I think there are some minor issues with the port. I should be able to get an updated port after I get home tonight and submit for somebody to check it out and commit. Waitman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 16:12:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98993501 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E499217 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0173CA716D0 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:12:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 698 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2013 16:12:07 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 10550, pid: 3874, t: 0.1583s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Jan 2013 16:12:07 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C3F33C1D; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id EF4A039855; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:12:00 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: sh script problem with capturing return code References: <50EC9009.3030305@a1poweruser.com> <20130108224626.8c2d89cd.freebsd@edvax.de> <50EC99F2.3020404@a1poweruser.com> <44d2xevlhb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <50ED88CF.7060308@a1poweruser.com> <448v82unxb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <444niqum7n.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44zk0it6t5.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44r4ltu8zp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44libw8tiz.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <50F40809.3020005@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:12:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: <50F40809.3020005@a1poweruser.com> (fbsd8@a1poweruser.com's message of "Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:28:41 -0500") Message-ID: <4438y3hhgv.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: Adam Vande More , FreeBSD questions , Lowell Gilbert X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:12:09 -0000 Fbsd8 writes: > Let me be sure I understand you correctly. > Your saying you tested the NetBSD version of mtree that was committed > into 10.0 head and it also has the bug we found? No. The port is not complete. All I did was a code inspection. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 16:17:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3040980C for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:17:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D00267 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012E3A717FE for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:17:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21553 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2013 16:17:09 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 20326, pid: 28944, t: 0.1733s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13495 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Jan 2013 16:17:09 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C176133C1D; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:17:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7DABB39855; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:17:03 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: sh script problem with capturing return code References: <50EC9009.3030305@a1poweruser.com> <20130108224626.8c2d89cd.freebsd@edvax.de> <50EC99F2.3020404@a1poweruser.com> <44d2xevlhb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <50ED88CF.7060308@a1poweruser.com> <448v82unxb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <444niqum7n.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44zk0it6t5.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44r4ltu8zp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <50EE2604.4020809@a1poweruser.com> <44pq188tnx.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <50F41797.2050001@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:17:03 -0500 In-Reply-To: <50F41797.2050001@a1poweruser.com> (fbsd8@a1poweruser.com's message of "Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:35:03 -0500") Message-ID: <44y5fvg2o0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:17:11 -0000 Fbsd8 writes: > Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> This fixes the problem that was bothering you, but the interactions of >> different features are complicated, and many of them are documented in >> fairly loose language. >> > Is that the diplomatic way of saying the manpage for mtree sucks, and > leaves a great deal to be desired? Not really; I was looking at the code at the time I wrote that. To be fair, I'm not sure what I would *expect* for some of the possible interactions. > When it comes to testing your patch sure I would like to. But here > again I have a problem. For security reasons I can not use source code > to install or update any operating system. I have no sources on my > system to compile from. I use the fresh install method from a > downloaded disc1.iso burned to cdrom. I was thinking you could extend the shell scripts using your existing mtree executable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 16:19:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08819EE for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axelbsd@ymail.com) Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CC2295 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2013 16:19:17 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.36] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2013 16:19:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2013 16:19:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s1024; t=1358180357; bh=8brNN8jV2NlhrnJkAZhZKxR1YEmDG7Fbg0rsxqH1Uvw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Received:X-Received:MIME-Version:Received:In-Reply-To:References:From:Date:Message-ID:Subject:To:Cc:Content-Type; b=cpt0RcNLPYCbz/uLvro+zRguERDsbNKzbwLpkZaKulJpiLcCBMOWXQ3vQ+l0wLxBqJq5yLHkOA6Q8Sxzb+xb43WZLWs5+xHzLjWFntKfPYBrCh3cZJHZBTXNtYtb9w9vfqfBKDpEPxhkqBkrD4ZnZg04r3H72+jtXD3NwwuYH3s= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 351186.64585.bm@smtp104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: aaGLz9YVM1lBh5D0UC0OS_Uf5GIW0Azr1NYsvdcnjLgB0_i OA3DnwpKpgJjVBg3SL9FyvLwzWWTUD9xzLOprTvrCrDPIk_Rf3ektogHdIBh EaUIW4TNvGs1AMsygkLjGdPchiDSRMDs_BgGstPcbmtdRqNOP59fgWmvS8Xs iG05ZNsI3Rm4T.iWNZPbpTKSsu5Xb5062VmyKMrDCrJTS5xqcGGvSmFEbb92 1_JPCWElIutyZoONDuSpy3K0_qURkz9yvct1zud.ksBPdE6nB_tljttjQupc Cwu4yyw7p0NRoFopwDuNvZnTzW9kh_a.MGEkGST.Aiv4xB9uSKsAy9t6hhbN 6VjzVhV5JEZwPG63DobQdIyhlVQJ6qPUYVhp8.8x8saIXpHXC.NQxCebQJhV ldF4aqPxPmmGgn2RIJNt9qOggSLPpTdM2AZ4LNzx_prijvC_N2xr5No2HDPl f9T_qRMc5KyrNeqHQo8P9DaBpHQI- X-Yahoo-SMTP: S65s63SswBDjU54Gjqw2GSWlZmfgiEU_X3tN1_9u Received: from mail-ie0-f178.google.com (axelbsd@209.85.223.178 with plain) by smtp104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2013 08:19:17 -0800 PST Received: by mail-ie0-f178.google.com with SMTP id c12so5304407ieb.9 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:19:16 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.184.164 with SMTP id ev4mr2643545igc.91.1358180356958; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:19:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.90.2 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:18:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20724.6043.689737.343567@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <20724.6043.689737.343567@jerusalem.litteratus.org> From: Alexandre Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:18:56 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: change in buildworld output when gcc -> clang To: Robert Huff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:19:23 -0000 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > > > Before the installation of clang and the default system > compiler, "make buildworld" ended with a nice little banner announcing > the fact and the time the build completed. > After, it ends like this: > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi Robert, Your mail has been truncated. Could you please send us the end? Thank you. Regards, Alexandre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 16:55:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45708945 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:55:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm11-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm11-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B9869D for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.53] by nm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2013 16:54:55 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.66] by tm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2013 16:54:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp146.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2013 16:54:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1358182495; bh=qmo4/B6wKA8MIFCvCmHgRQeQyJ8/D0BPE/AZXK51OKg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:User-Agent; b=CmDq9c3UKgKy48qYmIbQvIDP5ENY6uyeXLSiKlNU+jK9v0MjKDbS6Nk1QHQubqGD7LhYtSsWt4qpk57LbdMR9W1jYAD0zT9ebJ9zpH96RwVw2/Kxk/msEEJMAJs5uhijpG2xuh4dX93FVTHHqdPqZnu5Wku6PM1/d+6XlHgWS7k= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 693107.49293.bm@smtp146.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: mEZ3qUkVM1nNqYcoN6bOPx3fN0LNrqq8Q2C15oBymPqJoxY RvJPhpPH0aUGo8KsD8kKAU6NKVSsTNNoi7TKTcEnYfAFiCdwjB02h9nEzuDS TjxHtV9mrqtil6kNGwKvLgnn5qcIsC61HdPoIHyDMxZKM7Oghi86W4F_6E4_ _6gq.ttMK0dWz4UWgf_BWZ0XJnQ_d.xl_Xxd_T47B98m6AmqIKkFrLA4NHZW QGrjHPrQCdnWOD0sAV2QTp_2tSe.15V979iPPrTZjXeec2QIxUrs8JD8LjbZ 8H54UAVUH8P7VXNIoYNodhPdV6q_ifzHuNqN8aBJMGsSfBRJVY7v0CqqBB4d seEd41Ai7A0pOckAKvGF6ScBntJ1a3f22QyGKhw3HBkXu.OLBtxxqOHA8vZ1 Cc5ON0EGwxsNt1TdRpu_1TmRBxFye0TJHSKoed9y1RB58X7iw3yFTkE3r_kP pccprzIguSDRhB3YRJMUUrf1gOfOEPY2l1aUhA7fgSYcmJDTZKhq.SAb.tFf vJiZ5qmCrQmrPPivA6l6WvjQ.dVHV.uKCWiDOR9O6LGrf77S90LGzeFmYvg- - X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@85.182.24.255 with login) by smtp146.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2013 08:54:55 -0800 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Subject: Re: Starting the desktop environment doesn't work automatically Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:54:55 +0100 To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:55:09 -0000 In reply to: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2013-January/248117.html Thank you, to enable "su", I run # pw user mod rocketmouse -G wheel Restart is enabled by $ cat ~/.xinitrc # /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 exec startxfce4 --with-ck-launch # cat /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/power.pkla #To be able to shutdown or reboot rocketmouseyour system, you'll have to add a .pkla file #in /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d directory. Which looks #like this (replace PUTYOURGROUPHERE by your group): [Restart] Identity=unix-group:rocketmouse Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes [Shutdown] Identity=unix-group:rocketmouse Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes [Suspend] Identity=unix-group:rocketmouse Action=org.freedesktop.upower.suspend ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes :D I suspect I randomly copied "rocketmouse" to the comments, that reminds me of another question I've got. If I make mcedit the default editor, could this cause serious issues, perhaps if upgrading the kernel and world? I don't like vi and similar editors. For the DE I usually use gedit and similar editors. Regards, Ralf -- FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 20:03:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4F1538 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A62793 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-31-80.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.31.80]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE22249EC; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:03:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0EK3mRj001994; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:03:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:03:48 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Ralf Mardorf" Subject: Re: Starting the desktop environment doesn't work automatically Message-Id: <20130114210348.f70f2287.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:03:48 -0000 On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:54:55 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > If I make mcedit the default editor, could this cause serious issues, > perhaps if upgrading the kernel and world? I'm also using it regularly: % echo $EDITOR mcedit No problems so far. The only exception: The editor is not available when starting in SUM, and /usr (and therefor /usr/local) is not mounted. In such a situation where mcedit cannot be made available, /rescue/vi (residing on the / partition) is the best choice if you urgently need to edit something. The vi editor even works when terminal capabilities are not "sufficiently" provided. > I don't like vi and similar > editors. You don't need to like vi, but you should know the most basic actions to use this editor in _worst case_. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 14 22:44:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5888B8A4 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f174.google.com (mail-ie0-f174.google.com [209.85.223.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDB0C8 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:44:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f174.google.com with SMTP id c11so6062170ieb.33 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:44:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=OFmNgVzzQhfmy0Sh5rKwOorMKdx79PKEZ3nrcVqT+XM=; b=fjB60GpjN9P4vxDNWN8YXzIBg7Z9528o5HLtlJHUlj9L2Subhui9cEVdu6QtJWi7M+ bPJi1fPMRsVOx7idfqIifrETuFzcSHZfIjDvqpato5jUhHlbWTkq6fs8HhcYyYmoZHdu wLFvwGpBj4UQVF9B/uyJR+yYzKWFfZOuv6B6Uz/QFCU8U0hFpEQBFAs+froByYcE5550 M1NGZKI/JdtUHhiQy7IDcNy8DqjC6NaZI3CmzecpaN0za+XoVYtQWllcoUtRHj0pHjiP DLcP/9rIS6q1ArQ4V5U/711OrAe/WRIvz6+ixwQnjHEIiYSmoHRzklpfASqiQyM9c3Zx qJOw== Received: by 10.50.219.229 with SMTP id pr5mr83019igc.64.1358203492706; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:44:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.19.71 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:44:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F4197E.8050003@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <50F403C6.1030705@gmail.com> <50F4130A.5050105@freebsd.org> <50F4197E.8050003@infracaninophile.co.uk> From: n j Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:44:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkgng package repository tracking security updates To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:44:53 -0000 On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Matthew Seaman < m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote: > On 14/01/2013 14:36, n j wrote: > > The point of my question was exactly if it was possible to elaborate on > the > > "pre-compiled packages from FreeBSD official repositories" part. Would it > > be possible to have a (security-wise) up-to-date pre-compiled packages in > > the official repositories? Note, I don't expect an unreasonable effort > here > > - I understand there will always be delays between upstream fix --> ports > > fix --> up-to-date package and it is acceptable for the binary package to > > lag a few days behind the port (depending on the availability of package > > building cluster or maintainer upload). > > Yes, there will be a pkgng package building cluster which will track > updates to the ports and provide as up-to-date a collection of packages > as possible for at least x86, amd64 on all supporter FreeBSD branches > and head. Possibly other architectures as well. > > However, as all that is still under construction (and construction plans > have been heavily revised in the light of the earlier security > compromise) I have no good idea of what sort of turn-around will be > possible. I expect at least as good as the old pkg build cluster > managed and probably better. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > Thanks, that's encouraging news. One thing to think about would be the option of port maintainers uploading the pre-compiled package of the updated port (or if the size of the upload is an issue then just the hash signature of the valid package archive so other people with more bandwidth can upload it) to help the package building cluster (at least for mainstream architectures). The idea behind it being that the port maintainer has to compile the port anyway and pkg create is not a big overhead. The result would be a sort of distributed package building solution. Regards, -- Nino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 00:10:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA569DFA for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from nm28-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258396DC for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm28.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 00:10:04 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.11] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 00:10:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 00:10:04 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 545768.85616.bm@omp1011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 57983 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jan 2013 00:10:04 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1358208604; bh=fHlsKA+828J/jJJwVQntbmGdRz71egdJYdmqTUJmaWE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3aZ1ypC3KO4xBYCYgG/YdjWCSUP13zmFYzxeDX+y8IDiCk/1Fs8k+MvbZVJ/bg3jYD7NuLpp3XYoIIOZfofjMs4lX5p8mFKaYlePGea11uhbSbfv5UoUnYhotcbdQ6mBkssvpTQ3Vn0McoB5edKy/dh/oesEMFVr35QNQ9WK85M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=E5WNvrD1q6yyJYjCFPuHeRTvzXV1igSarWA9RgfcJtnCIEvL/0JbZXMNFAkroz4hMXahHtKigYQZs9q5iU3mAqomm0tW1tN3+GX0hwvsiWGslF9+q+De4MVNgRO0XpuVYxRsYhWGU8bZqueWF5SOTUjS6g8DfH3R7NLnWfQTg94=; X-YMail-OSG: j5hn93gVM1nzuUNLO5eCyP9TiC9aao5iUUyRxumBjYZcfwq bbRWthclxfiseIrIKp0tohyZrQ.3Ts6PkuBLFs5J6a1Zg82tvoHUH8rPz3j7 0LcQx3vRyH8iSKU9HOX_ZdD5EyTH4TAJTp91fnXk6CPKNtDbgkzvvQQNdRur mgwcyWwU.ESt_uswrtshNQkPpltDinf2ca5uMWSZjmgOJyJiKsH3vB3P6Zs4 J8M8XKPuYRDec3VQMjdYl9hwfb3da5PUh3kgd6uOEI6EK3vYT39kPEzmplXB gF9y0xF83wg_gtK.EL0IAVWR_ewi0ifU69.wXOGX8HQoG7wCOr8cgwJwCA3x KfBHsP_.6mOaENU2i_6AJeMUokh8SGR7PDf6u8e24isZ6y3SjL9vGR46oWBB MbfQhNep.qALk.jhtUvlmKv4iP5Jk8BzL3etHd0qnVMZzEkhBYh0yop1W1tG TyGB_2Ksxi8ow11fu6Kkp9a0c_XTMemqzt_COeNAQOzyYjdlEVMHhKxPSDll 3SNh3kzmtkhKvALo.40R2kI3oNWc39WVeDSE5ST2k6ack1hp.IDO7zaodPVR mIE8goD1lLls69wF7QBXlszj.vXEzhsngp3SEtpJxxgGjKS5H4ylLOgoiGK3 p1AZx351nPGtaC.Z7Z7WPVTT_Wuecvgrhwu2RsQFlAuHtsARPmCmp2z41.lO wZs_0osrKxw-- Received: from [190.17.8.72] by web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:10:04 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, Cgo.X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KPiBGcm9tOiAiWnl1bWJpbGV2LCBQZXRlciIgPHBldGVyQGFib3V0c3VwcG9ydC5jb20.Cj5UbzogImZyZWVic2QtcXVlc3Rpb25zQEZyZWVCU0Qub3JnIiA8ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNARnJlZUJTRC5vcmc.IAo.U2VudDogTW9uZGF5LCBKYW51YXJ5IDE0LCAyMDEzIDM6NTMgQU0KPlN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBKYWlscwo.IAo.Cj4KPk9uIDEzLzAxLzIwMTMgMjM6NTgsIExlb25hcmRvIE0uIFJhbcOpIHdyb3RlOgo.PiAKPj4gCj4KPj4gcm9vdEABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.130.494 References: <50F0297B.3020604@aboutsupport.com> <20130111163129.47e44ce4@mr129166> <50F03DB9.4020209@aboutsupport.com> <20130111131913.049ad0b0@tech304.office.supranet.net> <50F1113C.3090703@aboutsupport.com> <27B0EF0C-CC6D-46E4-960A-ABCAA157D2CD@fisglobal.com> <50F287BD.7030708@aboutsupport.com> <1358091928.24135.YahooMailNeo@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <0445C043-8460-40BD-81A9-5AC0580F584A@fisglobal.com> <1358114311.12585.YahooMailNeo@web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50F3AB4C.50408@aboutsupport.com> Message-ID: <1358208604.57180.YahooMailNeo@web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:10:04 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= Subject: Re: Jails To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" In-Reply-To: <50F3AB4C.50408@aboutsupport.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:10:11 -0000 =0A=0A>________________________________=0A> From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" =0A>To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" =0A>Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:53 AM=0A>Subject: Re: J= ails=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>On 13/01/2013 23:58, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 wrote:=0A>> = =0A>> =0A>=0A>> root@debian:/# ping www.google.com=0A>> WARNING: setsockopt= (ICMP_FILTER): Protocol not available=0A>> WARNING: your kernel is veeery o= ld. No problems.=0A>> PING www.google.com (173.194.42.16) 56(84) bytes of d= ata.=0A>> ping: recvmsg: Invalid argument=0A>> ping: recvmsg: Invalid argum= ent=0A>> ping: recvmsg: Invalid argument=0A>> ping: recvmsg: Invalid argume= nt=0A>> =0A>> --- www.google.com ping statistics ---=0A>> 4 packets transmi= tted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3078ms=0A>> =0A>> root@debian:/#= =0A>=0A>=0A>Hvae you run in FreeBSD:=0A>=0A>sysctl compat.linux.osrelease= =3D2.6.32=0A>=0A>?=0A>=0A=0AYes, and also defined /etc/resolv.conf. Any hin= t?=0A=0A=0ALeonardo M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.blogspot.com=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 00:16:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F0E16E for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B86722 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:16:22 -0800 Message-ID: <50F49FD2.10400@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:16:18 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert Subject: Re: sh script problem with capturing return code References: <50EC9009.3030305@a1poweruser.com> <20130108224626.8c2d89cd.freebsd@edvax.de> <50EC99F2.3020404@a1poweruser.com> <44d2xevlhb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <50ED88CF.7060308@a1poweruser.com> <448v82unxb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <444niqum7n.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44zk0it6t5.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <44r4ltu8zp.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <50EE2604.4020809@a1poweruser.com> <44pq188tnx.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <50F41797.2050001@a1poweruser.com> <44y5fvg2o0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44y5fvg2o0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2013 00:16:22.0225 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C682410:01CDF2B5] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:16:21 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Fbsd8 writes: > >> Lowell Gilbert wrote: > >>> This fixes the problem that was bothering you, but the interactions of >>> different features are complicated, and many of them are documented in >>> fairly loose language. >>> >> Is that the diplomatic way of saying the manpage for mtree sucks, and >> leaves a great deal to be desired? > > Not really; I was looking at the code at the time I wrote that. To be > fair, I'm not sure what I would *expect* for some of the possible > interactions. > >> When it comes to testing your patch sure I would like to. But here >> again I have a problem. For security reasons I can not use source code >> to install or update any operating system. I have no sources on my >> system to compile from. I use the fresh install method from a >> downloaded disc1.iso burned to cdrom. > > I was thinking you could extend the shell scripts using your existing > mtree executable. > Well I have already played with all the mtree(8) options you are interested in -u, -U, -q, -d, and different combinations of them including the specification keywords of "nochange", and "ignore", and in all cases the return code is always zero even when the test case should result in a return code of 1 or 2. I had no requirements to use the "optional" keyword, but after the 15+ combinations I ran I see no reason to expect the "optional", keyword to change the results I got. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 00:23:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67FA509 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:23:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A963678D for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id fy27so4163396vcb.41 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:23:08 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=cgRVg/MoQieTa4lz7DQ6DSJFukU8i8YVBkxOGhgfnF0=; b=nIdejalGBpTgk9Xi0nHNa9iQRG/Pfcf5sSa6xLggNHlqHXeAVjBW3t4/e68AEzgyLx AfWvi/40EQWjAx8r3/iVmigF3zMtifdLLQu2FX4lXkGQErsHvvce6ThE8gybXZtgIP66 UtRDZgJkasISvJpfllS7lrW+S7zRjl2EfgyPkvMYW0HxePkn7Fzuo+UgRSl+9/FKDszl VWjYrD0DCkTrbNzZMXl34EMJ0syhf9zkKkJ4hBsISR+D8sg23/rxZkz2W6Eveu2pfdPY UeF6ZcurbdCraiIokgtBp8/z/0KYZ60nTVKBxr4Mnh5frfE7mURTkLmVBJ2ToP43+TxM QNTg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.95.203 with SMTP id dm11mr90426459vdb.112.1358209388380; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:23:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.223.161 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:23:08 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.27] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:23:08 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: recommendation instead of portmanager From: David Brodbeck To: Artifex Maximus X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkLTscMm46UlB+i9yFZsvlMiiH08xyWQHiOta8XMIGcmucYCZB+Xrk5QotwuRDHn8ghUNgV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:23:15 -0000 On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Artifex Maximus wrote: > Hello! > > I am using portmanager for updating my ports. I love its -p switch. Is > there any similar program with such option? I am asking because portmanager > is gone from ports tree. > > " -p or --pristine Updates a port if any dependency in it's > /var/db/pkg/{port name}/+CONTENTS does not > match what is installed. The effect is when > a > port is updated, any port who uses the > updated > port in it's dependency chain, no matter > how > deep, are rebuilt. Normally only ports one > level up are rebuilt." > I think "portupgrade --recursive" will do what you want. 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[87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bd7sm1357819wib.8.2013.01.14.17.16.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:16:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:16:15 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recommendation instead of portmanager Message-ID: <20130115011615.43a23b81@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:16:20 -0000 On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:23:08 -0800 David Brodbeck wrote: > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Artifex Maximus > wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > I am using portmanager for updating my ports. I love its -p switch. > > Is there any similar program with such option? I am asking because > > portmanager is gone from ports tree. > > > > " -p or --pristine Updates a port if any dependency in it's > > /var/db/pkg/{port name}/+CONTENTS > > does not match what is installed. The effect is when > > a > > port is updated, any port who uses > > the updated > > port in it's dependency chain, no > > matter how > > deep, are rebuilt. Normally only > > ports one level up are rebuilt." > > > > I think "portupgrade --recursive" will do what you want. It doesn't From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 06:12:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F24E5C for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:12:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f46.google.com (mail-ee0-f46.google.com [74.125.83.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3684FD62 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f46.google.com with SMTP id e49so2401207eek.33 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:12:34 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=Hu4rg4UFd+WHnOZ40So61mm5pb+ObQvLGF5gbSFklKE=; b=fmXDfET+yBy1XVUYCcBVxsq3omVXuZYGZ1aDZEVO8sm6a4tnm6BPKFTjpFdpeud+7b vMuPbBImsZ+daAwp3WnrJClNM+BvJtKnobb4x/YAa5WrhNPdIi4IPVgjHOPDzYDuo9VW zGDTAWyR6Z2MEFAUzY4QfppLGF2c4SuyH6JHInFS+bfM57/aKxBzPYTArHV3q+UztrnJ nEakSPRZY3LA/s2X0GT1t3Rw9tp3cl7H+GfBX4T1FmyRZOjCBvk73m4sdyYz3VSp2k3H 9k/aYFyrkCTeZkxSlEu5XN2PZi4UdcHQ4OLe+7+1LyRVBGMSDM8Pa+MGsJBneBXbJFDN NSow== X-Received: by 10.14.224.199 with SMTP id x47mr31068277eep.19.1358230354493; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:12:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.30.151] ([95.87.236.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v46sm24178927eep.1.2013.01.14.22.12.33 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:12:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F4F34F.1080205@aboutsupport.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:12:31 +0200 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Jails References: <50F0297B.3020604@aboutsupport.com> <20130111163129.47e44ce4@mr129166> <50F03DB9.4020209@aboutsupport.com> <20130111131913.049ad0b0@tech304.office.supranet.net> <50F1113C.3090703@aboutsupport.com> <27B0EF0C-CC6D-46E4-960A-ABCAA157D2CD@fisglobal.com> <50F287BD.7030708@aboutsupport.com> <1358091928.24135.YahooMailNeo@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <0445C043-8460-40BD-81A9-5AC0580F584A@fisglobal.com> <1358114311.12585.YahooMailNeo@web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50F3AB4C.50408@aboutsupport.com> <1358208604.57180.YahooMailNeo@web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1358208604.57180.YahooMailNeo@web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlpeeaIYFQlh583HDSGgjS03FUoU4sgiATf+x78IweEEqGQ7jXKo0TUY8kJla4o49kD6fyL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:12:41 -0000 On 15/01/2013 02:10, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: > > Yes, and also defined /etc/resolv.conf. Any hint? > > > Leonardo M. Ramé > http://leonardorame.blogspot.com This is my jail conf. jail_debian_rootdir="/jail/debian" jail_debian_hostname="debian.bivol.net" jail_debian_ip="192.168.30.12" jail_debian_interface="bge0" jail_debian_devfs_enable="YES" jail_debian_devfs_ruleset="devfsrules_jail" jail_debian_flags="-n debian" #jail_debian_mount_enable="YES" # mount YES|NO jail_debian_fstab="/jail/conf/fstab.debian" you have ip & interface settings correct ? Mine card is bge0, but your one might be different. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 06:17:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6745FE7 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55482DB5 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by ltcfislmsgpa06.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0F6Hj1g020457 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:17:45 -0600 Received: from [10.0.0.102] (10.14.152.61) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.309.2; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 00:17:44 -0600 Subject: Re: Jails MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: <50F4F34F.1080205@aboutsupport.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:17:43 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <0266D888-2BCA-49CE-B4EB-AABA8CCF5E83@fisglobal.com> References: <50F0297B.3020604@aboutsupport.com> <20130111163129.47e44ce4@mr129166> <50F03DB9.4020209@aboutsupport.com> <20130111131913.049ad0b0@tech304.office.supranet.net> <50F1113C.3090703@aboutsupport.com> <27B0EF0C-CC6D-46E4-960A-ABCAA157D2CD@fisglobal.com> <50F287BD.7030708@aboutsupport.com> <1358091928.24135.YahooMailNeo@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <0445C043-8460-40BD-81A9-5AC0580F584A@fisglobal.com> <1358114311.12585.YahooMailNeo@web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50F3AB4C.50408@aboutsupport.com> <1358208604.57180.YahooMailNeo@web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50F4F34F.1080205@aboutsupport.com> To: "Zyumbilev, Peter" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.61] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-01-15_02:2013-01-14,2013-01-15,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:17:47 -0000 On Jan 14, 2013, at 10:12 PM, Zyumbilev, Peter wrote: > On 15/01/2013 02:10, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> Yes, and also defined /etc/resolv.conf. Any hint? >>=20 >>=20 >> Leonardo M. Ram=E9 >> http://leonardorame.blogspot.com >=20 >=20 > This is my jail conf. >=20 > jail_debian_rootdir=3D"/jail/debian" > jail_debian_hostname=3D"debian.bivol.net" > jail_debian_ip=3D"192.168.30.12" > jail_debian_interface=3D"bge0" NOTE: You can optionally combine/collapse those last 2 lines into one: jail_debian_ip=3D"bge0|192.168.30.12" (with the "pipe" character [|] separating the interface and IP) --=20 Devin > jail_debian_devfs_enable=3D"YES" > jail_debian_devfs_ruleset=3D"devfsrules_jail" > jail_debian_flags=3D"-n debian" > #jail_debian_mount_enable=3D"YES" # mount YES|NO > jail_debian_fstab=3D"/jail/conf/fstab.debian" >=20 >=20 > you have ip & interface settings correct ? Mine card is bge0, but your > one might be different. >=20 > Peter > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 06:36:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A5D75A; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADDEF02; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hq4so1940709wib.14 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:36:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=plOg10JuOyR5Y9IXYw8wSMTQWHzyVov7OG799HnjZHQ=; b=fwID/imHk1QYzI5tN3I0lxroKGnrFt5KhuZ1Abe4myUZ4/CbtBolQzLvdNtJ1LIWXs EwwVLOvJriGu0UOAZ3LH+1Doxmf9lFsariSUL6dNB1v6qTyWfZWq39FoNDIGohQsphTO 11JsA2/X1vOQavQ5ByG8fW1+CjV6QMZn7+/lvvAiGaz3fD/L1yXNylUsnnxAM8gP7uN3 4A8Ik8rktDtS2f/3takASSimSkU+4KqQZx81QsDhWT7wkYVUy4c8h3h2OpeLL50TjZGM /vnADnIgknLm9RCpYEDDS0tgBzE7fFk074thbwRbqBF00EsPsZzEMBua4q1HIu43UFUz tnPg== X-Received: by 10.180.90.106 with SMTP id bv10mr1529243wib.12.1358231809864; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.dg (41-135-148-131.dsl.mweb.co.za. [41.135.148.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g2sm2222159wiy.0.2013.01.14.22.36.45 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:36:48 -0800 (PST) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.5.21 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 08:36:33 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.9.1; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1501262.ZeeYvjAjy2"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201301150836.40046.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:36:57 -0000 --nextPart1501262.ZeeYvjAjy2 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.5.21 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. T= he=20 packages for FreeBSD 10 use the pkgng [3] format. =20 Please read the installation messages, if you use the nVidia graphics drive= r,=20 for further information. =20 =46AQ =2D-- Q: Wine crashing when launching some 3D programs (aka games) A: This appears to be some clash with software however I have not been able= to=20 isolate where the problem is occurring (wine, ports, world, kernel, i386,=20 amd64). A possible solution in to try upgrading, or downgrading, software= =20 used however I have not been able to fix the problem with my attempts. If = you=20 find a solution please email me, or post the solution on the mailing list. Q: wine: failed to initialize: / usr/local/lib32/wine/ntdll.dll.so: Undefin= ed symbol "_ThreadRuneLocale" A: This problem is specific to FreeBSD-9.0, please either stick with=20 wine-1.5.10 or update to a newer version of FreeBSD (-STABLE or 9.1). =20 Apologies for the inconvenience. =20 Q: Creating pkgng packages for FreeBSD-9 A: When there is no demand for FreeBSD-8 packages I'll create additional pk= gng=20 packages for FreeBSD-9. Since it is possible to install the existing pkg=20 packages in a pkgng environment (which I do) this is not a high priority. = =20 Q: Wine doesn't run (properly) with a clang built world A: Clang was compiling i386 on a 16-byte boundary while gcc was using a 4-b= yte=20 boundary. To fix, recompile world after ensuring your sources include=20 http://beta.freshbsd.org/commit/freebsd/r242835 or the relevant MFC. =20 Regards, David [1] MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.5.21,1.tbz) =3D=20 cfe91a668242a5f8fea5f395adda4e15 MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.5.21.1.txz) =3D=20 43fbfd9e4882f4098f62c57f15474ed9 MD5 (wine-1.5.x-freebsd10/wine-fbsd64-1.5.21,1.txz) =3D=20 63cca726e420be570485d173e8ce12f5 [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 [3] http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng --nextPart1501262.ZeeYvjAjy2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAlD0+PgACgkQUaaFgP9pFrKR1wCfTmudonRrD7/iHbuPmN5+mzW9 sgMAn20uZc5AnzD344YijjOvKiCKg/8v =baAV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1501262.ZeeYvjAjy2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 09:13:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914EA6E8 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:13:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3B373D for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rufus.webfusion.com (mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0F9Dixr064512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:13:51 GMT (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.7.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r0F9Dixr064512 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r0F9Dixr064512; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (insecure policy) X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31] claimed to be rufus.webfusion.com Message-ID: <50F51DC7.4030300@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:13:43 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130111 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgng package repository tracking security updates References: <50F403C6.1030705@gmail.com> <50F4130A.5050105@freebsd.org> <50F4197E.8050003@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:13:57 -0000 On 14/01/2013 22:44, n j wrote: > One thing to think about would be the option of port maintainers uploading > the pre-compiled package of the updated port (or if the size of the upload > is an issue then just the hash signature of the valid package archive so > other people with more bandwidth can upload it) to help the package > building cluster (at least for mainstream architectures). The idea behind > it being that the port maintainer has to compile the port anyway and pkg > create is not a big overhead. The result would be a sort of distributed > package building solution. Sorry. Distributed package building like this is never going to be acceptable. Too much scope for anyone to introduce trojans into packages. Building packages securely is a very big deal, and as recent events have shown, you can't take any chances. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 09:34:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F96FE5 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f178.google.com (mail-vc0-f178.google.com [209.85.220.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A839C820 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id l6so4516652vcl.9 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:34:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Af0HNAhzn/OY/dDjYRguAebLKXbja15HyVy/AFiS7JA=; b=hFMflKbFQCH/EIqMiXdxSdxsPpnzQySj3npgvKOuG/1+O+Uk4b6dASYmRx5o02f38V R+iW8HXPbph7s+aC3runDMpDIjHOvDM8bFpG0Dw/jlrV4ro4Gk6wpWKclkjWQ9b2AgXY B6AQUK8JHpFjy4+s1QKTQW4062zzZFXKwRJ3G5UABWeCcEUCoJIxrABP+uOxLkIC/ZKN LCOY3msPjn1R6H4I/R0XYdMqnx+6XW15j1Drjr9cpK66cvU/KqmzO6LnJ9IWp/leuftR +WGvB9GRknlHo/eVWgAEYT1YthfOYyxCd29pRSjikhZXmPvq7k0iWzXAfueKcETttv5C xR/Q== Received: by 10.220.240.80 with SMTP id kz16mr103851501vcb.7.1358242455525; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:34:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.191.6 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:33:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F51DC7.4030300@freebsd.org> References: <50F403C6.1030705@gmail.com> <50F4130A.5050105@freebsd.org> <50F4197E.8050003@infracaninophile.co.uk> <50F51DC7.4030300@freebsd.org> From: n j Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:33:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkgng package repository tracking security updates To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:34:22 -0000 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 14/01/2013 22:44, n j wrote: > > One thing to think about would be the option of port maintainers > uploading > > the pre-compiled package of the updated port (or if the size of the > upload > > is an issue then just the hash signature of the valid package archive so > > other people with more bandwidth can upload it) to help the package > > building cluster (at least for mainstream architectures). The idea behind > > it being that the port maintainer has to compile the port anyway and pkg > > create is not a big overhead. The result would be a sort of distributed > > package building solution. > > > Sorry. Distributed package building like this is never going to be > acceptable. Too much scope for anyone to introduce trojans into > packages. Building packages securely is a very big deal, and as recent > events have shown, you can't take any chances. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > I'd trust this system as far as I trust port maintainers right now. I understand that a port maintainer can submit arbitrary MASTER_SITES in a port Makefile which allows the maintainer to inject malware as they wish. If I trust the port maintainer to make me download and build something coming from e.g. http://samm.kiev.ua or http://danger.rulez.sk (just random picks, no offense intended), then I'd trust that maintainer to upload the package for me or submit a SHA256 hash that the correct package must have. So if somebody else were to build the package, the server would accept the upload only if it matches the hash. Am I overlooking something? Is there some kind of port verification by someone from the team prior to accepting the port submission? -- Nino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 10:30:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E1A114 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mannase@cipherwave.co.za) Received: from pinpoint-ah-omx2.synaq.com (pinpoint-ah-omx2.synaq.com [196.37.40.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9966AA9E for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.cipherwave.co.za ([41.87.205.6]) by pinpoint-ah-omx2.synaq.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Tv3TH-0001qu-44 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:10:19 +0200 Received: from CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local ([2002:2957:cd06::2957:cd06]) by CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:10:17 +0200 From: Mannase Nyathi To: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: SSH on FreeBSD Thread-Topic: SSH on FreeBSD Thread-Index: Ac3zCIGiSPG24Lb4RRqWjMGU1Mvp8w== Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:10:16 +0000 Message-Id: <64344677AECE934682A4243703F508681E09737D@CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local> Accept-Language: en-ZA, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-Ms-Has-Attach: X-Ms-Tnef-Correlator: X-Originating-Ip: [172.31.120.217] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Synaq-Pinpoint-Information: Please contact SYNAQ for more information X-Synaq-Pinpoint-Id: 1Tv3TH-0001qu-44 X-Synaq-Pinpoint: Found to be clean X-Synaq-Pinpoint-Spamcheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=1.275, required 10, autolearn=disabled, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, RDNS_NONE 1.27) X-Synaq-Pinpoint-Spamscore: s X-Pinpoint-From: mannase@cipherwave.co.za X-SYNAQ-Pinpoint-Branding: Branded References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:30:03 -0000 CipherWave Fibre Broadband with FREE installation from only R8840/month=0A= =0AGood day,=0A=0AI have just configured FreeBSD on my server. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 10:45:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E775A0 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD2EB65 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:45:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=lTcr25e9FjOUjff7fb6ncyjQts52DRVSeDvHeiWKRe4=; b=PNU7gP6R2HQx4hK+C2QDtepkrlWO9ZZGKekhtGKfHdUxVUb2tFCG+mk67TEvRAFo/rqKNLroPRzTbng3indsYJ3vGlC6rgvEI6VcvAOdm2bm1DAY0LBkvp6+485jBWfM; Received: from [125.163.96.175] (port=16342 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Tv41U-0009Qj-40; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:45:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:45:36 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Mannase Nyathi Subject: Re: SSH on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20130115174536.78ecf7e3@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <64344677AECE934682A4243703F508681E09737D@CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local> References: <64344677AECE934682A4243703F508681E09737D@CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:45:48 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:10:16 +0000 Mannase Nyathi wrote: > CipherWave Fibre Broadband with FREE installation from only > R8840/month > > Good day, > > I have just configured FreeBSD on my server. I would like to find out > how can I be able to login to it via ssh? > > Looking forward to hear from you soon. > > Thank you > you must enable ssh in /etc/inetd.conf and then read man ssh If you could tell us more what you really want, we could give you a better answer. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 10:51:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965FF692 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier2553@gmail.com) Received: from mail-da0-f47.google.com (mail-da0-f47.google.com [209.85.210.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76002BEE for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:51:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f47.google.com with SMTP id s35so2231214dak.6 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 02:51:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/FeR/w634qh+mANu3/PchIrJPyqY0+spLfMoYX2dsQE=; b=jsJNYiOnA1AF8DrdKZ+CrjUjPTvLCHD/SoCviDG7vK+npxMMvPKWpEnfRjLrvGt5nB Ogkt4Fn8OPjldFbLQuGM6Cas9Vi9jE20O91zwfxK76Lmz27x46Cfx8TkbDa2VNwPv6ar wcY6iT9cppd88hU+y3qb2r1g7W+YQKhvcnaQVU9N1cv5tjI1m5hSNJQ6HgFUMdcneGcU +E7e1pHnes4nKUyJd8rLlshv4p9j3bW7FU2gnMM9fVSQDkA0ATSSPYgU9b0bLUW4dIxU 0fyJNau8fNH1CJCGfRIhh8Oea8BXW764P6om1grhe2MlqiiYRVLxY0zYtoa1c+zJx+Or AGPA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.76.104 with SMTP id j8mr33329123paw.72.1358247073517; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 02:51:13 -0800 (PST) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.63.231 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 02:51:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130115174536.78ecf7e3@X220.ovitrap.com> References: <64344677AECE934682A4243703F508681E09737D@CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local> <20130115174536.78ecf7e3@X220.ovitrap.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:51:13 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: WePpGCCJZZb8RDU3FaiCQxZi59E Message-ID: Subject: Re: SSH on FreeBSD From: Olivier Nicole To: Erich Dollansky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" , Mannase Nyathi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:51:19 -0000 Hi, >> I have just configured FreeBSD on my server. I would like to find out >> how can I be able to login to it via ssh? >> >> Looking forward to hear from you soon. >> >> Thank you >> > > you must enable ssh in /etc/inetd.conf and then read Or better, in /etc/rc.conf sshd_enable="YES" Olivier > > man ssh > > If you could tell us more what you really want, we could give you a > better answer. > > Erich > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 10:52:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DC675A for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:52:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB917BFF for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:52:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rufus.webfusion.com (mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0FAq4fq066054 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:52:05 GMT (envelope-from matthew@freebsd.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.7.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r0FAq4fq066054 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r0FAq4fq066054; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (insecure policy) X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host mail.heartinternet.co.uk [79.170.40.31] claimed to be rufus.webfusion.com Message-ID: <50F534D4.20104@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:52:04 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130111 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mannase Nyathi Subject: Re: SSH on FreeBSD References: <64344677AECE934682A4243703F508681E09737D@CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local> In-Reply-To: <64344677AECE934682A4243703F508681E09737D@CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:52:17 -0000 On 15/01/2013 10:10, Mannase Nyathi wrote: > I have just configured FreeBSD on my server. I would like to find out > how can I be able to login to it via ssh? Start by editing /etc/rc.conf and add the line: sshd_enable="YES" (anywhere in the file -- order doesn't matter) Then as root: /etc/rc.d/sshd start It should generate some host keys and then start the sshd daemon. That's all. sshd will restart automatically after any reboots. You should be able to log into any ordinary user account remotely using the account username and password. Note: if your system is exposed to the internet, it will be attacked by bots attempting to brute-force SSH username and passwords. Make sure you have good passwords on all user accounts -- see the archives of this list for many, many discussions of further steps you can take to prevent this activity filling up your logfiles... Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 10:54:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76827808 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1E4C22 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Tv49j-002nof-83>; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:54:11 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1Tv49j-001leq-5Y>; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:54:11 +0100 Message-ID: <50F53548.9010004@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:54:00 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130110 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: databases/postgresql: simple mirroring of a database or a whole server X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig61E681626FD1C5A6C183F872" X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:54:12 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig61E681626FD1C5A6C183F872 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello list. First, please set me CC, i do not subscribe this list. I'd like to ask for a mirroring solution of an important databse on my installations across at least three boxes. The setup is as follows. Operating system is FreeBSD 10.0/amd and 9.1-STABLE/amd64. A top of the OS there is on all machines in question port databases/postgresql92-server|client running. I have a database that needs to be synchronized/mirrored. A data consistency in a narrow timeframe isn't necessary. The database in question is a very important literature reference db which is maintained via a web interface and this is done mostly from a private box at home, which changes the local database set. This database is also used at the lab. Usually, I have to dump the db, send it via ssh/scp over the net to the target machine and restore it - and this at least three times. Since network connectivity isn't available for some technical reasons when I maintain the local db at home, this task is a pain, if I forget to dump/restore the database. The task maintaining the databases like that isn't appreciable. So, I looked out for a mirroring solution. I came across SLONY I/II, but I feel not very comfortable with the complicated setup. Although having had a howto, it dind't work properly. So I'm looking for something more simple. The data consistency within short timeframes isn't so important, so a mission critical mirroring isn't necessary. But I would be feel better having something more "automatic" that is synchronizing more than two or three machines automatically when network connectivity is available. Is there a solution - easy task - to handle such a scenario? 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You > should be able to log into any ordinary user account remotely using the > account username and password. Note "ordinary user account" - sshd on FreeBSD disallows root logins by default. You can change that by editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config . -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 11:11:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DD5BFF for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:11:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from nm25-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC0BD9F for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 11:11:40 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.163] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 11:11:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 11:11:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 583984.23346.bm@omp1019.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 23277 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jan 2013 11:11:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1358248300; bh=RvRNnFwrN3AAJvVl6CCcjsPLq3nPwBamDaoe/Epoqdg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Kbgd9U3ZaARpEpPontMz6MqIfTCpuGzr35HTULMwopUY0zt7c5YS+BZDCqRWVPAEt+ATVdhZ0nhVTZJqRLJ705jCXnvSyphjCPVjlz2WOSf5WkrCzcsSPNSRTrPy4tiBoGsnfP5q08yCfuDQ9wPC+S30FE4FWGkadQAtPndKSk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OuoY/7g0J33oKsfnGJjGsTtN7n/YTgZV9kIU0wLHU28N2EDs7nVVUPyvSWtaE3XgXkf3duRWbtjrlFt/TtGxFk665MhaRdjRH4D1+VSmjqL98uWaY5ptMSPq4Djqfa/D0m9edA5nHbmULhWt/Ss/MTbKZsPCuVt5dPWie9FiOqo=; X-YMail-OSG: q8qvy5IVM1kGcqj.Hu4kvTMy4eKEJd0RPaPoMQJgxcbNR6X _Mk4WLV5rX0Htj9AvpjBSuLfeq.omPCuqDkIkVkHJOMOHqAkQk3u20vuiEeR JLXUxLi8Bw38jlsOgtgK_225rriX9yBMMTvB5jZ9CoKLNO89R1CnpHCZ7aF6 HtKBu8uIUWRsEe406hbqKdGpMyCPEewVlYQ2wV24p5Y5T.zN.JbvLDJ3XUF3 cZECKf6MGRhmep0jjGJXyMF58mW3E9cCItCQaARFKkU2_Zx9Q67qpFwUO2pQ fSVDzWCMh70JrF4c8p4_KvEWZKeNxRkwjo4aodPWd_QJm7.wuLNbqXeW_0yy goMmqkH9PinVT0aHnmKJ5gYsHPVoKvXtExZk_bwWGt35VxdI.yokVvoxcmwy RWD3rr4Parw3tgqoDgoWa34_mfjxjl44Wa1_5fUSsX9QCJOlPkxWXBaztqpr Y86nTTp3MpebAN7FZyn4ja3T3GfpEgXMTNy0jYtH1uvlGhQL8cKDeaHb1ftk VCr.4a8cdxsNPkNcXA0x086vC4shBNCLasTCnVvbN3tCLzYxHGbb49nDGgjt vCiUvSasOGMSb345BtH.5pnrUAiGRTaCA4.N3H_EFGpmKSS8f5fgnJ9rwenm 0Dr4qOXsVMMBAkCY6_jO4BmxKduJTgUr9WRvKIDwlkPp_vgXAgLw2GMLoc.F uptemFg-- Received: from [190.17.8.72] by web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:11:40 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, LS0tLS0gT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZSAtLS0tLQoKPiBGcm9tOiAiWnl1bWJpbGV2LCBQZXRlciIgPHBldGVyQGFib3V0c3VwcG9ydC5jb20.Cj4gVG86ICJmcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9uc0BGcmVlQlNELm9yZyIgPGZyZWVic2QtcXVlc3Rpb25zQEZyZWVCU0Qub3JnPgo.IENjOiAKPiBTZW50OiBUdWVzZGF5LCBKYW51YXJ5IDE1LCAyMDEzIDM6MTIgQU0KPiBTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogSmFpbHMKPiAKPiBPbiAxNS8wMS8yMDEzIDAyOjEwLCBMZW9uYXJkbyBNLiBSYW3DqSB3cm90ZToKPiAKPj4gCj4.ICBZZXMsIGEBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.130.494 References: <50F0297B.3020604@aboutsupport.com> <20130111163129.47e44ce4@mr129166> <50F03DB9.4020209@aboutsupport.com> <20130111131913.049ad0b0@tech304.office.supranet.net> <50F1113C.3090703@aboutsupport.com> <27B0EF0C-CC6D-46E4-960A-ABCAA157D2CD@fisglobal.com> <50F287BD.7030708@aboutsupport.com> <1358091928.24135.YahooMailNeo@web126204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <0445C043-8460-40BD-81A9-5AC0580F584A@fisglobal.com> <1358114311.12585.YahooMailNeo@web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50F3AB4C.50408@aboutsupport.com> <1358208604.57180.YahooMailNeo@web126203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50F4F34F.1080205@aboutsupport.com> Message-ID: <1358248300.11019.YahooMailNeo@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:11:40 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= Subject: Re: Jails To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" In-Reply-To: <50F4F34F.1080205@aboutsupport.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:11:47 -0000 ----- Original Message -----=0A=0A> From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" =0A> To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" =0A> Cc: =0A> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:12 AM=0A> Subject: R= e: Jails=0A> =0A> On 15/01/2013 02:10, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 wrote:=0A> =0A>> = =0A>> Yes, and also defined /etc/resolv.conf. Any hint?=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> = Leonardo M. Ram=E9=0A>> http://leonardorame.blogspot.com=0A> =0A> =0A> Thi= s is my jail conf.=0A> =0A> jail_debian_rootdir=3D"/jail/debian"=0A> jail_d= ebian_hostname=3D"debian.bivol.net"=0A> jail_debian_ip=3D"192.168.30.12"=0A= > jail_debian_interface=3D"bge0"=0A> jail_debian_devfs_enable=3D"YES"=0A> j= ail_debian_devfs_ruleset=3D"devfsrules_jail"=0A> jail_debian_flags=3D"-n de= bian"=0A> #jail_debian_mount_enable=3D"YES"=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 # mount YES= |NO=0A> jail_debian_fstab=3D"/jail/conf/fstab.debian"=0A> =0A> =0A> you hav= e ip & interface settings correct ? Mine card is bge0, but your=0A> one mig= ht be different.=0A> =0A> Peter=0A=0A=0APeter, last night I =0Afinally used= apt-get to install g++, so, it's working!. The only thing =0Athat doesn't = work is ping, but I won't care about it.=0A=0A=A0=0ALeonardo M. Ram=E9=0Aht= tp://leonardorame.blogspot.com=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 11:19:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D4DD37 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yh0-f47.google.com (mail-yh0-f47.google.com [209.85.213.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E045DDF2 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f47.google.com with SMTP id 22so817558yhr.6 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:19:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :reply-to:organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ipdTFMmWjFUZ0P6aM0vckDRU56LV5LC44QyyHVj585s=; b=eXiJav0Y58tziSIk5NtJ4qU42zsTCNhfy1j7+HIVo79y+x0GbKmJuQvXq5IMAetCHu Wv30/RvlbYB1y/rz0N8jbQ6qS/s8bAV+wfkIjQ+2WjpWdr4VuHb1wvu6zMLLf+1vH1+Y VZlzTr6/6zjPhPR95XBXWX9L2Ty3nKCwSUYRA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :reply-to:organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=ipdTFMmWjFUZ0P6aM0vckDRU56LV5LC44QyyHVj585s=; b=je3mOJb7dw+qvPnZPRXfD/67bz9Bsws7ZKyeX9OcvyfuFw4Al+W91XxvfqDKP+5ijh ROdAVeuGxjWDo3fYZWsErU1BoPlTBPE7EHwpMAjqOKXYmjRaejf9mFNijbFbiYvn/l24 kctWDkn6wQ1vTpwlinKlJWirjAF7UYdD5tMsrH/Cc1ULmhWDuzPyIzeZteKU9dtJmtuY PwmEHqH0fEvh972ct5nk6yt9H0Ue7AwRniNjSeHpjqQ6L+EdVOenD0Ym5OE09jQMDx9I DgfS7EqxGD2oULjDD5tIzBQEf4QyxHyVWd61XSCcG2WupMV+F/DU3zbEtFdNTON64IAx 2kMA== X-Received: by 10.236.141.81 with SMTP id f57mr98537113yhj.13.1358248749191; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:19:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k63sm15581513yhj.20.2013.01.15.03.19.08 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:19:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3YlpwC1pRkz2CG57 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:19:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:19:06 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: recommendation instead of portmanager Message-ID: <20130115061906.78e66524@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20130115011615.43a23b81@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20130115011615.43a23b81@gumby.homeunix.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmSAhp+JmqQSfZb+6qI7NdShUEdMdKBnRo0intfQ9axIPLkElNbMdoQHfnqqwMspXGjT/qY X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:19:16 -0000 On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:16:15 +0000 RW articulated: > On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:23:08 -0800 > David Brodbeck wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Artifex Maximus > > wrote: > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > I am using portmanager for updating my ports. I love its -p > > > switch. Is there any similar program with such option? I am > > > asking because portmanager is gone from ports tree. > > > > > > " -p or --pristine Updates a port if any dependency in > > > it's /var/db/pkg/{port name}/+CONTENTS > > > does not match what is installed. The effect is when > > > a > > > port is updated, any port who uses > > > the updated > > > port in it's dependency chain, no > > > matter how > > > deep, are rebuilt. Normally only > > > ports one level up are rebuilt." > > > > > > > I think "portupgrade --recursive" will do what you want. > > It doesn't The is one of the reasons I loved "portmanager" as opposed to "portupgrade". The only way I think you can get some semblance of the same behavior in "portupgrade" is to use the "f" flag. 'portupgrade -fr '. However, that also forces a rebuild of the port whether it requires it or not. Portmanager checked to make sure that the ports, both dependencies and those ports that depended on the port were built consistently. You would probably have to use the "R" flag also with "portupgrade" to get that action. I really wish a real "C" programmer (I'm not) would update the program to make the program compatible with the present state of FreeBSD. Written in "C", the program didn't require other languages to be installed and ran far faster than any of its competition. It was also, IMHO, far easier to configure. On more than one occasion it fixed problems that the other two port management applications failed to correct. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 11:21:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3F6E04 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBE9E12 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.130.131] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tv45s-0007g5-Uh; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:50:13 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r0FAo9Ow002391; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:50:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id r0FAo799002390; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:50:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:50:07 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: SSH on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20130115105006.GA2291@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <64344677AECE934682A4243703F508681E09737D@CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local> <20130115174536.78ecf7e3@X220.ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20130115174536.78ecf7e3@X220.ovitrap.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.130.131 Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" , Mannase Nyathi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:21:32 -0000 El día Tuesday, January 15, 2013 a las 05:45:36PM +0700, Erich Dollansky escribió: > Hi, > > On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:10:16 +0000 > Mannase Nyathi wrote: > > > CipherWave Fibre Broadband with FREE installation from only > > R8840/month > > > > Good day, > > > > I have just configured FreeBSD on my server. I would like to find out > > how can I be able to login to it via ssh? > > > > Looking forward to hear from you soon. > > > > Thank you > > > > you must enable ssh in /etc/inetd.conf and then read In FreeBSD it is in rc.conf $ man rc.conf | col -b | fgrep -i ssh matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz | - No system with backdoors like Apple/Android E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 11:24:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F32F3D for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:24:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gg0-f180.google.com (mail-gg0-f180.google.com [209.85.161.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81339E43 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gg0-f180.google.com with SMTP id c4so790091ggn.25 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:24:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :reply-to:organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Dsz9DPIKhmyqks+bJQgx+d4ZCB/kG/amgAOGu3KNJv0=; b=QKOe9El7SYo5yJJ4jOVovPXlAhss1dPR4ZMwo2teDfmhLeBUH3Hwrk5rNabpC64EhT tzj2F4GHZpi3NavsIEQo5oiWWnWwiohqvZGGL6n32XjJ9YMrGmXkvwapmfv1p+6a4TAg f1yDZRMg/1nnyoHSd3xl0yZMOr1kdLdRjfUtc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :reply-to:organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=Dsz9DPIKhmyqks+bJQgx+d4ZCB/kG/amgAOGu3KNJv0=; b=iiSFWus2cv0xTjhNPCuGG18Ldac04Ugq8A1h0OwnmVxPUjxx6RIfWt/+3LC2A2XJ2K /GP5cOPiZnbrvGbWdiGJShMlkB2gxJooRefi95WCLajEh9Z44nrIcDjN4+dB4hlUSGmK NpQ/Avo+5r1PPNWkxJqxT0fNYAUPs+0ZaSuUkWMEUe/qWCL3yA6zn/baE6GjPowvNTo4 g1GQ21Fyt95M1FMsGfxQGiSFfanE1BT65H3hcGARFGhr5s/tK0ya6gWs2fq1V3j9eRCY V0ytNdAJyOtrCmRktsfMbdl2bV+1Y6oUbEWST2p0Pvjz6zxFZWUigVgvP5dk7IyKtEXo iVYQ== X-Received: by 10.236.124.42 with SMTP id w30mr98614922yhh.22.1358249079016; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:24:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t14sm13683757anl.17.2013.01.15.03.24.38 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 03:24:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3Ylq2Y1jsLz2CG57 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:24:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 06:24:36 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: SSH on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20130115062436.5c2a9268@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <50F534D4.20104@freebsd.org> References: <64344677AECE934682A4243703F508681E09737D@CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local> <50F534D4.20104@freebsd.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmOlZ+9q1p1gp9QwDNG1b0QBt7nElrQYTqzquI2Zby+0GyMT/dnJt/Q8Mx2ddKmDJYGf7Ua X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:24:46 -0000 On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:52:04 +0000 Matthew Seaman articulated: > On 15/01/2013 10:10, Mannase Nyathi wrote: > > I have just configured FreeBSD on my server. I would like to find > > out how can I be able to login to it via ssh? > > Start by editing /etc/rc.conf and add the line: > > sshd_enable="YES" > > (anywhere in the file -- order doesn't matter) > > Then as root: > > /etc/rc.d/sshd start > > It should generate some host keys and then start the sshd daemon. > > That's all. sshd will restart automatically after any reboots. You > should be able to log into any ordinary user account remotely using > the account username and password. > > Note: if your system is exposed to the internet, it will be attacked > by bots attempting to brute-force SSH username and passwords. Make > sure you have good passwords on all user accounts -- see the archives > of this list for many, many discussions of further steps you can take > to prevent this activity filling up your logfiles... You might want to consider using certificates rather than 'usernames' 'passwords' for logging in. Your system will be far more secure. As Matthew stated, you can check the archives. If needed, start a new thread and ask for assistance on the subject here. -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 12:14:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7583E1C4 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:14:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amitabhkant@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41160228 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id xa7so9308pbc.14 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 04:14:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=dCeZjfrY2VNbsHBW4Pf6FmwMEBkXxOUs87QlMpQrXp8=; b=uSMLOo1cx8N1IRn3PU6D+UqBVlQ617HNwiLfsMXPoEGj8sX/OrLX9U2Sa2fzBuo7fN o0oqaVJLlOGMQhnweOI8mpmz+RetMOdIfMn6zk3smSgKZI/qaQNEr6MhV3+t2FZfH8Vp w+0vK+IwD6hX73TIF9u6gO6qYdhF2DB5LRH9XZ+xEHV22sPuxH/GC6CPx2QciR9Jp/0j rRHSWzslvms3HK3G1xtccuFqJK6zgbqNaOiHGjAdli8sf1hDJSYq6ko3wQZHCVn/1LbC AVVkTWCdB5AZN87k0FUvwEgkzWROgxIMYpQhlCKUSSOmLt4U1vc0OP/oPNJhXTlPvYsx aGYw== Received: by 10.66.90.1 with SMTP id bs1mr241246251pab.19.1358252091703; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 04:14:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.125.162 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 04:14:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F53548.9010004@zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <50F53548.9010004@zedat.fu-berlin.de> From: Amitabh Kant Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:44:31 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: databases/postgresql: simple mirroring of a database or a whole server To: "O. Hartmann" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:14:52 -0000 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:24 PM, O. Hartmann wrote: > Hello list. > > First, please set me CC, i do not subscribe this list. > > I'd like to ask for a mirroring solution of an important databse on my > installations across at least three boxes. The setup is as follows. > > Operating system is FreeBSD 10.0/amd and 9.1-STABLE/amd64. A top of the > OS there is on all machines in question port > databases/postgresql92-server|client running. > > I have a database that needs to be synchronized/mirrored. A data > consistency in a narrow timeframe isn't necessary. The database in > question is a very important literature reference db which is maintained > via a web interface and this is done mostly from a private box at home, > which changes the local database set. This database is also used at the > lab. Usually, I have to dump the db, send it via ssh/scp over the net to > the target machine and restore it - and this at least three times. Since > network connectivity isn't available for some technical reasons when I > maintain the local db at home, this task is a pain, if I forget to > dump/restore the database. The task maintaining the databases like that > isn't appreciable. > > So, I looked out for a mirroring solution. I came across SLONY I/II, but > I feel not very comfortable with the complicated setup. Although having > had a howto, it dind't work properly. So I'm looking for something more > simple. > > The data consistency within short timeframes isn't so important, so a > mission critical mirroring isn't necessary. But I would be feel better > having something more "automatic" that is synchronizing more than two or > three machines automatically when network connectivity is available. > > Is there a solution - easy task - to handle such a scenario? > > Thanks in advance, > Oliver > > Since you are using postgresql 9.2, why don't you use the inbuilt replication that comes with it. You might be interested in this page http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.2/static/high-availability.html . In case you face any difficulties, u can always head over to pgsql mailing list. (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) Amitabh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 12:40:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4068B1A for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com (mail-la0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416D9359 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id fp12so46508lab.41 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 04:40:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ISnlWqn08KOhiARgCeFdJ2+eBXIBuYwg7JcpLlH7Cbw=; b=yYdjbqJgWZaLbuqqOHJchULOwxD9BnfpQNVZjG7OONskopLq/gwc3fb3h9Mua+L+j3 i/o8oomqEZPR29kUseLNCyWeQv6rQe+jNVTFG7zRH7Yj6Ay0pBlVZCCtqWbcHJaoE5X8 ccpEvwRji6Wr3qlRHY0Qet3ryRP9P4qM0+TBAO04HweCc+W5Z9GZXwlES+3fNlfKFrTj 5MEqMzLntDglakCwyQcrLeS80Yr7SNSI2xmXljwAyu8mcScKOY7dGUQWvniie1QIa4H7 uycuRJJEX2KKmwCAeDH22PYMAF7B+kwSTEZGHznghY54QV6Ig7OSHr+BnDW93LDB/RZE Rr0Q== X-Received: by 10.152.162.1 with SMTP id xw1mr86162798lab.3.1358253636148; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 04:40:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.130] (mau.donbass.com. [92.242.127.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u5sm6714706lbm.8.2013.01.15.04.40.34 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 04:40:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F54E40.9090406@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:40:32 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: SSH on FreeBSD References: <64344677AECE934682A4243703F508681E09737D@CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local> <20130115174536.78ecf7e3@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130115105006.GA2291@tiny.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20130115105006.GA2291@tiny.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Erich Dollansky , "questions@FreeBSD.org" , Mannase Nyathi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:40:37 -0000 15.01.2013 12:50, Matthias Apitz: > El día Tuesday, January 15, 2013 a las 05:45:36PM +0700, Erich Dollansky escribió: > >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:10:16 +0000 >> Mannase Nyathi wrote: >> >>> CipherWave Fibre Broadband with FREE installation from only >>> R8840/month >>> >>> Good day, >>> >>> I have just configured FreeBSD on my server. I would like to find out >>> how can I be able to login to it via ssh? >>> >>> Looking forward to hear from you soon. >>> >>> Thank you >>> >> >> you must enable ssh in /etc/inetd.conf and then read > > In FreeBSD it is in rc.conf > > $ man rc.conf | col -b | fgrep -i ssh In FreeBSD there are two ways of enabling sshd: default, fast and easy through rc.conf and a bit tricky and secure via inetd.conf. Everyone can select their own poison. I personally prefer the latter one. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 12:46:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCAFCDD for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1AF3CC for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Tv5tu-003RU7-Iz>; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:45:58 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1Tv5tu-001vDY-Gd>; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:45:58 +0100 Message-ID: <50F54F7E.4020402@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:45:50 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130110 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amitabh Kant Subject: Re: databases/postgresql: simple mirroring of a database or a whole server References: <50F53548.9010004@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig426962BBBE83D412DB08A19B" X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:46:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig426962BBBE83D412DB08A19B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/15/13 13:14, Amitabh Kant wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:24 PM, O. Hartmann wrote: >=20 >> Hello list. >> >> First, please set me CC, i do not subscribe this list. >> >> I'd like to ask for a mirroring solution of an important databse on my= >> installations across at least three boxes. The setup is as follows. >> >> Operating system is FreeBSD 10.0/amd and 9.1-STABLE/amd64. A top of th= e >> OS there is on all machines in question port >> databases/postgresql92-server|client running. >> >> I have a database that needs to be synchronized/mirrored. A data >> consistency in a narrow timeframe isn't necessary. The database in >> question is a very important literature reference db which is maintain= ed >> via a web interface and this is done mostly from a private box at home= , >> which changes the local database set. This database is also used at th= e >> lab. Usually, I have to dump the db, send it via ssh/scp over the net = to >> the target machine and restore it - and this at least three times. Sin= ce >> network connectivity isn't available for some technical reasons when I= >> maintain the local db at home, this task is a pain, if I forget to >> dump/restore the database. The task maintaining the databases like tha= t >> isn't appreciable. >> >> So, I looked out for a mirroring solution. I came across SLONY I/II, b= ut >> I feel not very comfortable with the complicated setup. Although havin= g >> had a howto, it dind't work properly. So I'm looking for something mor= e >> simple. >> >> The data consistency within short timeframes isn't so important, so a >> mission critical mirroring isn't necessary. But I would be feel better= >> having something more "automatic" that is synchronizing more than two = or >> three machines automatically when network connectivity is available. >> >> Is there a solution - easy task - to handle such a scenario? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Oliver >> >> > Since you are using postgresql 9.2, why don't you use the inbuilt > replication that comes with it. You might be interested in this page > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.2/static/high-availability.html . >=20 > In case you face any difficulties, u can always head over to pgsql mail= ing > list. (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) >=20 > Amitabh >=20 Thank you very much for this hint! I'm new to the 9.X series, so I didn't realize that there is something new built-in. Valuable hint. 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Everyone can select their > own poison. I personally prefer the latter one. You seem to imply that enabling sshd through inetd is more secure than directly through rc.conf. Care to elaborate on that? Regards, -- - Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 12:51:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59D1F7D for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:51:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801BB63B for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.130.131] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tv5zC-0007Di-4p; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:51:26 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r0FCpM6u002728; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:51:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id r0FCpLFK002727; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:51:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:51:20 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Volodymyr Kostyrko Subject: Re: SSH on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20130115125119.GA2716@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <64344677AECE934682A4243703F508681E09737D@CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local> <20130115174536.78ecf7e3@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130115105006.GA2291@tiny.Sisis.de> <50F54E40.9090406@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <50F54E40.9090406@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.130.131 Cc: Erich Dollansky , "questions@FreeBSD.org" , Mannase Nyathi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:51:31 -0000 El día Tuesday, January 15, 2013 a las 02:40:32PM +0200, Volodymyr Kostyrko escribió: > > In FreeBSD it is in rc.conf > > > > $ man rc.conf | col -b | fgrep -i ssh > > In FreeBSD there are two ways of enabling sshd: default, fast and easy > through rc.conf and a bit tricky and secure via inetd.conf. Everyone can > select their own poison. I personally prefer the latter one. Why it is more secure via inetd.conf? matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz | - No system with backdoors like Apple/Android E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 12:54:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70ABB12B for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3405C661 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F78E6199 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:59:25 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=vp2GKH2oIMvV tmyNHxdpXTcP+Ew=; b=n6SxzXk/9Zszeog+xjd/4RXKuOgrjpuR9uFycppwkJky +pPmpeSWyK/AAvHjKXFETPnMdcE8DVn4VWOL5bGhwEf+4+di/f5MNH5kJbCZ344K HGj/X0Um57K2/WJ28AeHanI9JCCfggexxrWC/LJ2oTzlb1ioOYTmdQ5XdkIgnks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=LbqRIw xmp7T8rGcwG+pgNH7I8flhQ1VbBMQFvGBRJJ8UlrN5K45Arh/DnM45hsRTMsD6YT IWQqeM7vFmRj/iyGgVSGyqu2jHIdXIehdegMlurDjDShGX5gkk99G0XDEicd16Zg qndtlyMcZefsL/QO9frKtZNyjkLqOvToTeunQ= Received: from [192.168.2.4] (unknown [93.89.81.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C3959E6188 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:59:25 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <50F5515E.5070903@cran.org.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:53:50 +0000 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH on FreeBSD References: <64344677AECE934682A4243703F508681E09737D@CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local> <20130115174536.78ecf7e3@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130115105006.GA2291@tiny.Sisis.de> <50F54E40.9090406@gmail.com> <20130115125119.GA2716@tiny.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20130115125119.GA2716@tiny.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:54:01 -0000 On 15/01/2013 12:51, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Why it is more secure via inetd.conf? 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Everyone can select their >> own poison. I personally prefer the latter one. > > You seem to imply that enabling sshd through inetd is more secure than > directly through rc.conf. Care to elaborate on that? * there's no central process to target with attacks; * SSHv1 server key is regenerated every time new connection is created; * with inetd you can force max connections per minute rate or max connections per ip. -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. 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For example, a pink 'r' or a blue colon ":", etc. What could be causing this? -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 13:20:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CF9968 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:20:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mannase@cipherwave.co.za) Received: from pinpoint-ah-omx4.synaq.com (pinpoint-ah-omx4.synaq.com [196.37.40.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27C37E7 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.cipherwave.co.za ([41.87.205.6]) by pinpoint-ah-omx4.synaq.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Tv65a-0005St-6w; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:58:02 +0200 Received: from CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local ([2002:2957:cd06::2957:cd06]) by CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:54:49 +0200 From: Mannase Nyathi To: Matthias Apitz , Volodymyr Kostyrko Subject: RE: SSH on FreeBSD Thread-Topic: SSH on FreeBSD Thread-Index: Ac3zCIGiSPG24Lb4RRqWjMGU1Mvp8///6FwAgAABQ4CAAB7aAIAAAwQA///eHaA= Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:54:49 +0000 Message-Id: <64344677AECE934682A4243703F508681E097D59@CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local> References: <64344677AECE934682A4243703F508681E09737D@CW-EXCH01.cipherwave.local> <20130115174536.78ecf7e3@X220.ovitrap.com> <20130115105006.GA2291@tiny.Sisis.de> <50F54E40.9090406@gmail.com> <20130115125119.GA2716@tiny.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20130115125119.GA2716@tiny.Sisis.de> Accept-Language: en-ZA, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-Ms-Has-Attach: X-Ms-Tnef-Correlator: X-Originating-Ip: [41.150.108.84] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Synaq-Pinpoint-Information: Please contact SYNAQ for more information X-Synaq-Pinpoint-Id: 1Tv65a-0005St-6w X-Synaq-Pinpoint: Found to be clean X-Synaq-Pinpoint-Spamcheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=1.274, required 10, autolearn=disabled, RDNS_NONE 1.27) X-Synaq-Pinpoint-Spamscore: s X-Pinpoint-From: mannase@cipherwave.co.za X-SYNAQ-Pinpoint-Branding: Branded Cc: Erich Dollansky , "questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:20:59 -0000 =0A=0AHi Guys,=0A=0AThanks for your help.=0A=0AI have managed to sought it = out. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 14:35:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C7176 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:35:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5E0CDB for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Jan 2013 09:35:29 -0500 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id CEO48127; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:35:24 -0500 X-Auth-ID: roberthuff@rcn.com Received: from 209-6-84-183.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org) ([209.6.84.183]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Jan 2013 09:35:23 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20725.26922.790985.729237@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:35:22 -0500 To: Alexandre Subject: Re: change in buildworld output when gcc -> clang In-Reply-To: References: <20724.6043.689737.343567@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Robert Huff , questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:35:40 -0000 Alexandre writes: > > Before the installation of clang and the default system > > compiler, "make buildworld" ended with a nice little banner announcing > > the fact and the time the build completed. > > After, it ends like this: > > Your mail has been truncated. Could you please send us the end? Appended. Looking at current@, I see someone else has noticed this. Robert Huff /usr/src/lib/libwrap/../../contrib/tcp_wrappers/shell_cmd.c:79:9: warning: implicit declaration of function 'open' is invalid in C99 [-Wimplicit-function-declaration] if (open("/dev/null", 2) != 0) { ^ /usr/src/lib/libwrap/../../contrib/tcp_wrappers/shell_cmd.c:81:16: warning: implicit declaration of function 'dup' is invalid in C99 [-Wimplicit-function-declaration] } else if (dup(0) != 1 || dup(0) != 2) { ^ /usr/src/lib/libwrap/../../contrib/tcp_wrappers/shell_cmd.c:84:9: warning: implicit declaration of function 'execl' is invalid in C99 [-Wimplicit-function-declaration] (void) execl("/bin/sh", "sh", "-c", command, (char *) 0); ^ /usr/src/lib/libwrap/../../contrib/tcp_wrappers/shell_cmd.c:91:5: warning: implicitly declaring library function '_exit' with type 'void (int) __attribute__((noreturn))' _exit(0); ^ /usr/src/lib/libwrap/../../contrib/tcp_wrappers/shell_cmd.c:91:5: note: please include the header or explicitly provide a declaration for '_exit' 7 warnings generated. /usr/src/lib/libwrap/../../contrib/tcp_wrappers/update.c:110:33: warning: implicit declaration of function 'getpid' is invalid in C99 [-Wimplicit-function-declaration] sprintf(request->pid, "%d", getpid()); ^ 1 warning generated. cc: warning: argument unused during compilation: '-L/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32' cc: warning: argument unused during compilation: '-L/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32' cc: warning: argument unused during compilation: '-L/usr/obj/usr/src/lib32/usr/lib32' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 14:40:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF9637D for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCCAD29 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:40:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.50] by nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 14:40:50 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.109] by tm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 14:40:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp125.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 14:40:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1358260850; bh=daT6vSIIPZXyhXVjGi7JdcS/DZLAd1D6gylQGY8FWBE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:Date:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:User-Agent; b=bEBjmAzCI2qwTrNiYuE1ZTy5NEjbKwP7mVCJd5PAYPxcTeDFRZ1vbwmp28SEObtCg6KRJXApgeCOU9JQ/IBM9PKV2SVFyNlf2TlsS739ALTRohtGL0vbWT6jQbemWO5OD4Xffr5/kmgWPiiMGMu4OTwVHxUTf8ho2QcT2piJQuw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 370577.88824.bm@smtp125.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: N8IfvzkVM1mfdbbZocbVTjqIcJ.Z5ZG.8bTZKqHNKAGszhW fiTOTHyJ5HHkXQ9o5Om5HrRegmBz8z9IgyUb6Ho7gQCRNJmN5UtQplscipId p3PdHY1LZnIbpuwIioo5zMusRWkqqLPY0cCUMpUZrN1DsQSYhMAdCynIaUtV paRh90PYh_bW5TdK7SQfK4sxcSg4Ob5wqetN3OM3TeYBy0c7TaHcrdcL7RXy k.D9RjffVFZXReXKCFNQfRPLAixEtWV6ss9sfqQfvSzZMtz.2UbQETt1xz4H JRVoTub55XyWhbIqKCG1KnRPx9zcAIasbLkMCs617olL.ZBYyAjbSWXYeJv1 G3IJGrzGXnW7AEcfKC.KMPyOMG8dy2Z8jCBRdEzI7RpRRhnumqMOpT4nU3Gf 3L2oHIP3gAKHqu6KZO_y4c0EZRLq2U7aqHlCSioMKs0UHWFZp8jyHpTJqxrY p_66NFqkuHb13hdl2ta7CgKmHvQRkUHjR0X_4hSoro7p2yJgEXmD5fuXrI6l m1j9tA06iwwIG48lSaAQh X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.208.105 with login) by smtp125.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2013 06:40:50 -0800 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:40:50 +0100 Subject: Hard drive LED always on To: "FreeBSD quest" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:40:53 -0000 I've got an issue, that regarding to http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=13467 is an issue for several users. Since I've got to fix many other issues, ALSA doesn't work, the GUI of QjackCtl does behave strange, Ardour 2 doesn't build, only 2 IOs are available for the sound card, by OSS using the snd_hdspe driver etc., I wonder if I can ignore the LED. As long as the LED only will give light and it shouldn't cause serious issues, such as data loss, it's ok for me. Until now it seems not to cause serious issues. Is it safe to ignore it, to keep i as is? Regards, Ralf -- FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 17:05:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E704FFB5 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B41C832 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.55] by nm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 17:05:35 -0000 Received: from [217.146.188.154] by tm8.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 17:05:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp101.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jan 2013 17:05:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1358269534; bh=O+mqbJrzvIXf4rTj2CwoREWUun8SSryoyn520I6m88U=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=D6W6IYJMici6o6E1MCkxctSF2Pi2jdzhkBNzU1LRmwwvzpO+oBFUiloX4q7WP+05NymTrdrgHbqTguNYVBwTOCTFbOwayMlsMMr8RN3bzDWceUeP0gXJQ2aiA3tbnrgNdiBXPkgtRJ50cNkhQAFErQl23E/EVmjMImCNH1N/0wE= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 913879.18416.bm@smtp101.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Hib7q9cVM1nqdfkhwkcP519GLkCU_ko.lMQK3vFMoDUQ92X vaRhGlMZK2_dFXkAbu6.UXd5CzlL1sL_.rzuHJE9oXo4zaOJBxbavkavNnSO lSbKd49BQ7S7DS9u6.mJuLyvE51GkIIAI8PgQiMN8LPguWCEYqQLzd2xbggW r3Ht8.ykFEzE_9oceJNqezE1O8qjDRtPiIjdkADOUrd_oPHKvIhBRusPMfHU gs.QC2iQkXdfZCaVmrik4oHkEK1tS4ftrn._kZdjtToindBcDFcRuHyw52lX hEgzAvkmtEEnZF1sCCrjDX1GPdh2s4jPEq.7uLpo9J_egrbEcWyDNtL_NCR0 QGVAT9R3XWuVYv8YxGrQV5OfWJaSQCpiuQaWrJNLJV1rXkw5S_L5hVCUcF3L waaw9KPSIz6LbDC24oqYrmzD2Who.HB_SbspWE4FEaDs- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from [92.231.4.110] (ralf.mardorf@92.231.4.110 with login) by smtp101.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2013 09:05:34 -0800 PST Message-ID: <1358269534.2583.3.camel@q> Subject: Re: Starting the desktop environment doesn't work automatically From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:05:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20130114210348.f70f2287.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20130114210348.f70f2287.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:05:40 -0000 On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 21:03 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:54:55 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > If I make mcedit the default editor, could this cause serious issues, > > perhaps if upgrading the kernel and world? > > I'm also using it regularly: > > % echo $EDITOR > mcedit > > No problems so far. The only exception: The editor is not > available when starting in SUM, and /usr (and therefor /usr/local) > is not mounted. In such a situation where mcedit cannot be > made available, /rescue/vi (residing on the / partition) is > the best choice if you urgently need to edit something. > The vi editor even works when terminal capabilities are > not "sufficiently" provided. Thank you, I made it default for my FreeBSD too. > > I don't like vi and similar > > editors. > > You don't need to like vi, but you should know the most > basic actions to use this editor in _worst case_. :-) In the _worst case_ I can handle vi basic actions even with a German keyboard using an "us" keymap ;). Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 17:47:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8CBC3C for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:47:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [74.208.4.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E3EB07 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com ([172.19.198.46]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmxus001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Ln7wP-1TIFKm17Ij-00hR57 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:42:17 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Jan 2013 17:42:16 -0000 Received: from 188.4.180.247.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr (EHLO [192.168.1.66]) [188.4.180.247] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us006) with SMTP; 15 Jan 2013 12:42:16 -0500 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18kj0Q8N5sk+68h0iDmR4HyD9C0HDvw4p13yuRama 9X/OV4BPzTZeIJ Message-ID: <50F594E9.7000606@gmx.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:42:01 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Free BSD Questions list Subject: assigning values to variables in the background Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:47:27 -0000 Hi, A bit of an OT question. I am writing a bourne shell script that collects data from a router. Since netstat & vmstat can run for a numbers of iterations I thought I would use just that: stats() ( nstats=`netstat -I ng0 -q 1 60 | tail -1` & rawdata=`vmstat -c 2 60 | tail -1` wait ... The logic was: 1. run the first process in the bg 2. run the second process 3. wait to make sure the first process has finished 4. continue further It makes perfect sense why this doesn't work. Both commands run in the foreground. I am going to split the time between netstat and vmstat. So, it will be 30 seconds of netstat and 30 seconds of vmstat. But I am still interested/curious how one should go for this using the shell. So, can this be done without files? Any thoughts? Thanks, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 18:14:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED841793 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2790D07 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFDAA71C61 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:14:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27274 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2013 18:14:38 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 25867, pid: 27617, t: 0.2241s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from unknown (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Jan 2013 18:14:38 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB3133C1D; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:14:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 920FE39843; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:14:32 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: n j Subject: Re: pkgng package repository tracking security updates References: <50F403C6.1030705@gmail.com> <50F4130A.5050105@freebsd.org> <50F4197E.8050003@infracaninophile.co.uk> <50F51DC7.4030300@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:14:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: (n. j.'s message of "Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:33:55 +0100") Message-ID: <44zk0auxdj.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: User Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:14:46 -0000 n j writes: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> On 14/01/2013 22:44, n j wrote: >> > One thing to think about would be the option of port maintainers >> uploading >> > the pre-compiled package of the updated port (or if the size of the >> upload >> > is an issue then just the hash signature of the valid package archive so >> > other people with more bandwidth can upload it) to help the package >> > building cluster (at least for mainstream architectures). The idea behind >> > it being that the port maintainer has to compile the port anyway and pkg >> > create is not a big overhead. The result would be a sort of distributed >> > package building solution. >> >> >> Sorry. Distributed package building like this is never going to be >> acceptable. Too much scope for anyone to introduce trojans into >> packages. Building packages securely is a very big deal, and as recent >> events have shown, you can't take any chances. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew >> > > I'd trust this system as far as I trust port maintainers right now. Well, almost. It would have to be cryptographically validated, which would be a bit of work to get right. > I > understand that a port maintainer can submit arbitrary MASTER_SITES in a > port Makefile which allows the maintainer to inject malware as they wish. > If I trust the port maintainer to make me download and build something > coming from e.g. http://samm.kiev.ua or http://danger.rulez.sk (just random > picks, no offense intended), then I'd trust that maintainer to upload the > package for me or submit a SHA256 hash that the correct package must have. > So if somebody else were to build the package, the server would accept the > upload only if it matches the hash. It's easier to sneak something into a binary than a source code package, although you can never be *completely* sure either way (c.f., Ken Thompson's classic speech "Reflections on Trusting Trust"). In practice, some amount of subterfuge would be required for the attacker to keep from being found out too soon to do much good; possibly quite a lot of subterfuge, if the port gets run on TrustedBSD systems or other forms of system auditing. Once anyone notices a problem, the port will be shut down quickly. > Am I overlooking something? Is there some kind of port verification by > someone from the team prior to accepting the port submission? Well, a committer has to check the port in personally, but deliberate sabotage could probably sneak by the committer most of the time. - Lowell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 18:35:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADDDE6B for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566B8E2E for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9E4A71158 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:35:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 10190 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2013 18:35:45 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 31342, pid: 24638, t: 0.2908s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.7]) (tomdean@[24.113.104.91]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Jan 2013 18:35:45 -0000 Message-ID: <50F5A189.7000701@speakeasy.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:35:53 -0800 From: "Thomas D. Dean" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: time_t definition Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail5.sea5 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=8.0 tests=RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:35:46 -0000 I am attempting to recompile some code from an older version. > uname -a FreeBSD ZD7000 9.1-STABLE FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE #1: Sun Jan 13 23:44:33 PST 2013 root@ZD7000:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > make gcc47 -O2 -pipe -I../../include -std=gnu99 -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -Wno-pointer-sign -c data-collection.c data-collection.c: In function 'main': data-collection.c:214:4: error: format '%ld' expects argument of type 'long int', but argument 3 has type 'time_t' [-Werror=format] data-collection.c:234:4: error: format '%ld' expects argument of type 'long int', but argument 3 has type 'time_t' [-Werror=format] cc1: all warnings being treated as errors *** [data-collection.o] Error code 1 > cat data-collection.c ... #include /* time_t */ #include /* gettimeofday() */ ... gettimeofday(&spi_stop, &tz); / * line 211 */ printf("Loop %d, SPI %ld %ld\n", loop, spi_stop.tv_sec, spi_stop.tv_usec); ... gettimeofday(&disk_stop, &tz); /* line 231 */ printf("Loop %d, Disk %ld %ld\n", loop, disk_stop.tv_sec, disk_stop.tv_usec); ... time.h defines time_t #ifndef _TIME_T_DECLARED typedef __time_t time_t; #define _TIME_T_DECLARED #endif sys/time.h includes sys/types.h which includes sys/_types.h which includes machine/_types.h where __time_t is defined typedef __int32_t __time_t; /* time()... */ Question: Why do I see the error? Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 19:30:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E084EC6 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (mail1.sourcehosting.net [74.205.51.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB1D115 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 24-181-237-39.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([24.181.237.39] helo=Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.73 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TvCD4-0000TQ-Fe; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:30:12 -0500 Received: from Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E69D9194FE23; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:30:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50F5AE41.1040305@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:30:09 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <50F594E9.7000606@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <50F594E9.7000606@gmx.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 24.181.237.39 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: glarkin@FreeBSD.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail1.sourcehosting.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Subject: Re: assigning values to variables in the background Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.sourcehosting.net) Cc: Free BSD Questions list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:30:18 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 1/15/13 12:42 PM, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > Hi, > > A bit of an OT question. I am writing a bourne shell script that > collects data from a router. Since netstat & vmstat can run for a > numbers of iterations I thought I would use just that: > > stats() ( nstats=`netstat -I ng0 -q 1 60 | tail -1` & > rawdata=`vmstat -c 2 60 | tail -1` wait ... > > The logic was: 1. run the first process in the bg 2. run the second > process 3. wait to make sure the first process has finished 4. > continue further > > It makes perfect sense why this doesn't work. Both commands run in > the foreground. > > I am going to split the time between netstat and vmstat. So, it > will be 30 seconds of netstat and 30 seconds of vmstat. > > But I am still interested/curious how one should go for this using > the shell. So, can this be done without files? Any thoughts? > > Thanks, Nikos Hi Nikos, As far as I can tell, the backticks are what's causing the problem. Even though you put the first command in the background (maybe with the & inside the backticks, though), the assignment to the nstats variables causes the script to block. If you switch to using temp files, you may have more luck, e.g.: netstat -w 1 -I ng0 -q 60 | tail -1 > /tmp/netstat.$$ & npid=`echo $!` vmstat -w 2 -c 60 | tail -1 > /tmp/vmstat.$$ & vpid=`echo $!` wait $npid nstats=`cat /tmp/netstat.$$` rm -f /tmp/netstat.$$ wait $vpid rawdata=`cat /tmp/vmstat.$$` rm -f /tmp/vmstat.$$` Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. 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Thanks, Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 19:53:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E649654 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (feld.me [66.170.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1637230 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:53:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=Mpj47HIOb0Ilbae+G9avaDsHSZ29lIOnjWAshx2QK70=; b=Hne8iVYjpEdI/Rm9EXtLlnIqD0Y4S/0BRXtv72w8Zo+bCwXlJs470AUG22BrfnrM52oi4+i7iBgxknHzbP9Mtuue+PQrHpl2ovu1TihmcwPdtP4uQqq1D8jqV84pP680; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TvCZx-0006ex-8Z; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:53:50 -0600 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpsa id 1358279623-8307-86284/5/2; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:53:43 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, "Zyumbilev, Peter" Subject: Re: ffmpef 1.1 References: <50F5B265.6040106@aboutsupport.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:53:42 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <50F5B265.6040106@aboutsupport.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Report: ALL_TRUSTED=-1, KHOP_THREADED=-0.5 X-SA-Score: -1.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 19:53:54 -0000 On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:47:49 -0600, Zyumbilev, Peter wrote: > Hi, > > Does anybody know if there soon be port of ffmpeg 1.1 to FreeBSD ? > I assume multimedia/ffmpeg1 just needs an update From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 20:17:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C896D3B6 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:17:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wodfer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-f50.google.com (mail-la0-f50.google.com [209.85.215.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4692037F for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id fs13so611771lab.9 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:17:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=4FNKvHhEOAJqMRdv6iQcuKqbGXjaOa145JmyRfGRLqM=; b=LFSSPvTDA7JfLG0xeQUgNbOXan65BBOlfU1ggjR99CmX3hu02BPVTnQBvqih79pe8s RmYz4FYt0Moax+g+NJWGAFcoAoFO7PGO40LT3+WNebF1aARFHXFshPN6fnO3IWemfV/E MThJnafDGVIWFZpq3FajhiGIZyuUZ8djqX5QHfx+y2QvH2tneJaX8KwXJoqIoBll/xV8 10QNprlkNbWBF6/HM+XdR4Y4g9fLVzMRkG5p4+o+pMU35llNjBEcJ3qeTdpxjv+eVJnG r+Rq/8/7s/rvC4vIajWEnmikOB28ZCSszD018/pw+2pRgsqzJdU5YlFfbfdLzHq+RqGG C0Lw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.144.38 with SMTP id sj6mr85873657lab.48.1358281051129; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:17:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.5.230 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:17:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <50F5B265.6040106@aboutsupport.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:17:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ffmpef 1.1 From: Andy Wodfer To: Mark Felder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Zyumbilev, Peter" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:17:32 -0000 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Mark Felder wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:47:49 -0600, Zyumbilev, Peter < > peter@aboutsupport.com> wrote: > > Hi, >> >> Does anybody know if there soon be port of ffmpeg 1.1 to FreeBSD ? >> >> > I assume multimedia/ffmpeg1 just needs an update > Hi, You might consider compiling it from source instead since it often takes some time for the ports to be up to date with the development of ffmpeg. Here is how I did it a while back: Download the latest ffmpeg from GIT. Extract .tgz file # cd ffmpeg-0.10 # bash # export LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib # export CPATH=/usr/local/include # ./configure --enable-gpl --enable-nonfree --enable-shared --enable-libdirac --enable-libfaac --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libvorbis --enable-libtheora --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid --cc=gcc47 #gmake #gmake install From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 20:23:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AF44C3 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:23:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907A93EA for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id es5so352483wgb.17 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:23:00 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=iiavIUitr2LzYk8ePyPWmk2r3qQQbthcNSzF4HRDcv8=; b=miCP38Puz84eT2ndfyg0DV9DuXNt0Vy/Hr03vbvxlN5B4fGVfXu91Pdx0xxzPL8Rta sqfYagV2CeJYBOi/QmRzcGr5YHvqyszeJQBOuqmzHghMb2hw6H6UKJI+hCArPlkEN3JN gcsgpo7SU/sQOVgEAGevsPoY6oLRD/vwHA0cYfcx8YYeOUzCDz/hLV1msuvCsYV2eXLZ IuMUI/7kEOkCWnFEPR8dJIj161AO6XKIpipVQYlSWocS0mTOznZmFJuFCRFSaTrZqz4H h3ZMoE+GzPcQq7XYFa4UQFXVGzKruNgRsGp/32NpQcMngHtU4/m5fRw7qdG3/4DcnDiL OTjQ== X-Received: by 10.194.172.228 with SMTP id bf4mr52424505wjc.38.1358281380498; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.30.151] ([95.87.236.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bw9sm4953162wib.5.2013.01.15.12.22.59 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:23:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F5BAA0.8020605@aboutsupport.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:22:56 +0200 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ffmpef 1.1 References: <50F5B265.6040106@aboutsupport.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmQUHvwjbLFEbsBMjIm2f5ClXZ7d9HXPjKPW8O4STDXmRgAd65GeBWZihhTLRAbri5tl8kZ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:23:07 -0000 On 15/01/2013 21:53, Mark Felder wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:47:49 -0600, Zyumbilev, Peter > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Does anybody know if there soon be port of ffmpeg 1.1 to FreeBSD ? >> > > I assume multimedia/ffmpeg1 just needs an update > 1.1 has REALLY cool features - burn subtitles for example. Also I am crossing fingures to solve some strange problems I experience 1.0. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 20:28:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB3FA6D for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:28:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (feld.me [66.170.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3B5655 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:28:07 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:To:Content-Type; bh=ydm+uJUyi04AtNoAiYw5jkS+KPLR9lX3kaFYA+TA6p0=; b=lE4bzKUTP4aEaCTYV2yvxeL2ycM22hL2ovhAGUALlSRJ/fsKNfGsSIAS565CvXEMproUjSoB2hlKnApElGzdncUNZgSSjQSd4EVisuIBsm7GMp8v+0rwW87LNk2FXgey; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TvD78-0008JA-CK; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:28:06 -0600 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpsa id 1358281680-8307-86284/5/3; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:28:00 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Zyumbilev, Peter" Subject: Re: ffmpef 1.1 References: <50F5B265.6040106@aboutsupport.com> <50F5BAA0.8020605@aboutsupport.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:27:59 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <50F5BAA0.8020605@aboutsupport.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Report: ALL_TRUSTED=-1, KHOP_THREADED=-0.5 X-SA-Score: -1.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:28:07 -0000 On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:22:56 -0600, Zyumbilev, Peter wrote: > 1.1 has REALLY cool features - burn subtitles Hardcoded subs are the worst :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 20:59:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED50683 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (mail-wi0-f175.google.com [209.85.212.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C851813 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id hm11so2779903wib.14 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:59:30 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=JSYebgr22DGu6+pMN1F7KkcR9FPNzgk4HZOkeINwDfw=; b=YWSaUyCucGl99fRqrSCAG6/2Ct0e9anxE8CnrWnGxf7zUAE1uaYoqzfr5fSGHffKUI DuUWx7mnp3XYPMA2P+5tQam/9H2VKfrs82mhuPHjNYwl0Hst9sRNHzaldmnZyDHLSWPM 7B2e5XCdm2dq2omhwV3eIA4WzH74W+0/oduayIpXvZcMYowiyBHHLHpn31ndmlDIbogl BESlMiWbkdm4qcfmDjv5gy5gQMJtv3WGf6ljxTgKPp9N01l4YNxa1IjwIR9JIBLwIahm KDM+NV+NdpnlzTQ5GB5vfkjFjg5ZNyCDiMa0BcggJexU+YfcI6j2+kEfXupClELPVP93 48gQ== X-Received: by 10.194.109.10 with SMTP id ho10mr53620471wjb.16.1358283570683; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:59:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.30.151] ([95.87.236.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p3sm5073101wic.8.2013.01.15.12.59.29 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:59:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F5C32F.7010702@aboutsupport.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:59:27 +0200 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ffmpef 1.1 References: <50F5B265.6040106@aboutsupport.com> <50F5BAA0.8020605@aboutsupport.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkEX/Emgx6YfDU4XxSRRpqSl/OLh0OW5rBzO4Ig7pTQF2lQzM/Fhj1rprIgrpq/plxhOI1V X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:59:38 -0000 On 15/01/2013 22:27, Mark Felder wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:22:56 -0600, Zyumbilev, Peter > wrote: > >> 1.1 has REALLY cool features - burn subtitles > > Hardcoded subs are the worst :( > I will wait a little before going the compile route... For subs,I am with Samsung which works like charm with sepate srt file, however I want to build such setup who is with Sony and Sony supports only burned subtitles :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 23:01:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D447BC for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:01:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4141000 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:01:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TvFVp-0003Cf-Df for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:01:45 +0100 Received: from 65.75.36.70 ([65.75.36.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:01:45 +0100 Received: from wbparsons by 65.75.36.70 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:01:45 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Will Parsons Subject: Re: problem compiling X11 ports under 9.1-RELEASE Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.75.36.70 User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: wbparsons@cshore.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:01:41 -0000 Walter Hurry wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:01:25 +0000, Will Parsons wrote: > >> I've recently installed 9.1-RELEASE on a laptop and am in the process of >> installing the ports that I want. On several now, I've encountered >> error messages that I don't know how to deal with and for which I don't >> see anything in the UPDATING file that seems to be relevant. >> For example, trying to build both graphics/xv and x11-clocks/wmclock >> results failure with the primary error message being: >> >> imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/local/lib/X11/config Imakefile.c:16: error: >> Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory >> >> followed by: >> >> make: don't know how to make all. Stop >> >> This happens both using portmaster (my usual method of installing ports) >> and installing manually (cd /usr/ports/x/y; make). >> >> Imake seems to be installed (pkg_version reports imake-1.0.4,1) so I >> don't know where to go from here. > > I tried x11-clocks/wmclock and it compiled successfully in seconds. > > $ locate Imake.tmpl > /usr/local/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl > $ pkg which /usr/local/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl > /usr/local/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl was installed by package xorg-cf- > files-1.0.4 I re-installed devel/imake and compilation problems seem to be solved. -- Will From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 15 23:51:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D84B0C for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED4E3E7 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com ([10.1.101.210]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MbeUV-1TcDsu2Ebd-00J5GF for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:46:13 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Jan 2013 23:46:13 -0000 Received: from 188.4.180.247.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr (EHLO [192.168.1.66]) [188.4.180.247] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu010) with SMTP; 16 Jan 2013 00:46:13 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+eQDVHqHaeYBcZ0U3TGVsQcrc52Xmc1TFauoSqkN gcI+G6KKUQfrDV Message-ID: <50F5EA39.5020106@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:46:01 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: assigning values to variables in the background References: <50F594E9.7000606@gmx.com> <50F5AE41.1040305@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <50F5AE41.1040305@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Free BSD Questions list , Robert Bonomi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:51:24 -0000 On 1/15/2013 9:30 PM, Greg Larkin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 1/15/13 12:42 PM, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: >> Hi, >> >> A bit of an OT question. I am writing a bourne shell script that >> collects data from a router. Since netstat & vmstat can run for a >> numbers of iterations I thought I would use just that: >> >> stats() ( nstats=`netstat -I ng0 -q 1 60 | tail -1` & >> rawdata=`vmstat -c 2 60 | tail -1` wait ... >> >> The logic was: 1. run the first process in the bg 2. run the second >> process 3. wait to make sure the first process has finished 4. >> continue further >> >> It makes perfect sense why this doesn't work. Both commands run in >> the foreground. >> >> I am going to split the time between netstat and vmstat. So, it >> will be 30 seconds of netstat and 30 seconds of vmstat. >> >> But I am still interested/curious how one should go for this using >> the shell. So, can this be done without files? Any thoughts? >> >> Thanks, Nikos > > > Hi Nikos, > > As far as I can tell, the backticks are what's causing the problem. > Even though you put the first command in the background (maybe with > the & inside the backticks, though), the assignment to the nstats > variables causes the script to block. > > If you switch to using temp files, you may have more luck, e.g.: > > netstat -w 1 -I ng0 -q 60 | tail -1 > /tmp/netstat.$$ & > npid=`echo $!` > vmstat -w 2 -c 60 | tail -1 > /tmp/vmstat.$$ & > vpid=`echo $!` > wait $npid > nstats=`cat /tmp/netstat.$$` > rm -f /tmp/netstat.$$ > wait $vpid > rawdata=`cat /tmp/vmstat.$$` > rm -f /tmp/vmstat.$$` Yes, this looks probably like something I will use too. Just for the fun of it and using a separator(Robert's idea), I came up with this: > delay=10 > > a=$( > ( > echo netstat `netstat -I ng0 -q 1 $delay | tail -1` netstat > ) & > > ( > echo vmstat `vmstat -c 2 $delay | tail -1` vmstat > ) > ) > > echo $a If someone else has something else to add I'll be glad to hear it, no matter how crazy! Thanks for your answers Greg & Robert, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 03:44:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DB118E; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF47630D; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [172.17.17.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0G3fHfi046185 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:41:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0G3fHwO083607 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:41:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.6/8.14.5/Submit) id r0G3fHtm083606; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:41:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:41:17 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Nikos Vassiliadis Subject: Re: assigning values to variables in the background Message-ID: <20130116034117.GC42469@dan.emsphone.com> References: <50F594E9.7000606@gmx.com> <50F5AE41.1040305@FreeBSD.org> <50F5EA39.5020106@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50F5EA39.5020106@gmx.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (email2.allantgroup.com [172.17.19.78]); Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:41:18 -0600 (CST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on email2.allantgroup.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 Cc: glarkin@freebsd.org, Free BSD Questions list , Robert Bonomi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:44:24 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 16), Nikos Vassiliadis said: > On 1/15/2013 9:30 PM, Greg Larkin wrote: > > On 1/15/13 12:42 PM, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > >> A bit of an OT question. I am writing a bourne shell script that > >> collects data from a router. Since netstat & vmstat can run for a > >> numbers of iterations I thought I would use just that: > >> > >> stats() ( nstats=`netstat -I ng0 -q 1 60 | tail -1` & > >> rawdata=`vmstat -c 2 60 | tail -1` wait ... > >> > >> The logic was: 1. run the first process in the bg 2. run the second > >> process 3. wait to make sure the first process has finished 4. > >> continue further > >> > >> It makes perfect sense why this doesn't work. Both commands run in > >> the foreground. > >> > >> I am going to split the time between netstat and vmstat. So, it > >> will be 30 seconds of netstat and 30 seconds of vmstat. > >> > >> But I am still interested/curious how one should go for this using > >> the shell. So, can this be done without files? Any thoughts? > > > > As far as I can tell, the backticks are what's causing the problem. > > Even though you put the first command in the background (maybe with the > > & inside the backticks, though), the assignment to the nstats variables > > causes the script to block. > > > > If you switch to using temp files, you may have more luck, e.g.: > > > > netstat -w 1 -I ng0 -q 60 | tail -1 > /tmp/netstat.$$ & > > npid=`echo $!` > > vmstat -w 2 -c 60 | tail -1 > /tmp/vmstat.$$ & > > vpid=`echo $!` > > wait $npid > > nstats=`cat /tmp/netstat.$$` > > rm -f /tmp/netstat.$$ > > wait $vpid > > rawdata=`cat /tmp/vmstat.$$` > > rm -f /tmp/vmstat.$$` npid=$! is cleaner (no need to fork a subshell just to echo a variable), but you don't even need that. You can use just a single "wait" command to wait for both processes to finish, then extract the output of both tempfiles. > Yes, this looks probably like something I will use too. > > Just for the fun of it and using a separator(Robert's idea), I came up > with this: > > > delay=10 > > > > a=$( > > ( > > echo netstat `netstat -I ng0 -q 1 $delay | tail -1` netstat > > ) & > > ( > > echo vmstat `vmstat -c 2 $delay | tail -1` vmstat > > ) > > ) > > > > echo $a This works, but now you have both lines of info in a single variable, and it may be more work to split the lines back out (also note that you can't predict which line will be first). If you want to stick with shell, either zsh or bash would make short work of parsing this. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 04:58:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D3AECF for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 04:58:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-la0-f45.google.com (mail-la0-f45.google.com [209.85.215.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C95B7D0 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 04:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id ep20so955655lab.18 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:58:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ph5HFtlPuQ/BpgT1IYogBa8ewHw4wWTdyFEdaIVonbA=; b=tWrTtiVD1iOXaSxhI6JHrokdUvGur80BJ9CG+wNRZlgJB7laFe3XZyKZKcBT6BzqA5 KFUo4tbqjlZnqg5iVtO2rX8B09bSWiUZZR/fNg9xU3AGCfRWlkouRbUXNWg03MPkvyGh Ys4TFEvTP+eA4fy8p1ZcAAXPmYBl202U4U9mU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=ph5HFtlPuQ/BpgT1IYogBa8ewHw4wWTdyFEdaIVonbA=; b=ngtwQSkEBQA/bZS6du2uEEprpXupNEyMFGjyhlU36S3LBoxQfuzbgWzOHBa5TLlyz5 wVHcVI1ObpBXfUjf1WSz2KiHkGoxHCSPc7rgDC5xBEgkh3rDD4bNOhIwDMF+I6lX9wdO rgGx6MkYbASRpKbAETnXrWwF0drGou1DfgHvHMgwy7PpdKZ5h0ElhfzpFTrN7/IS8tzX Q4mr87ZJoW/E92lvlFqzGrBQAD1ec0YThV2o1xWF75fypUVV0+VG8HZal/eWhQGMNkGw 0wQvvM8hv+xScv9p6TWcfd+JeCXBc7AWWR6kwrdWN+W0zRepFU1zMN2DaEEznkjRCvAO r97g== X-Received: by 10.112.82.136 with SMTP id i8mr69878lby.74.1358312294095; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:58:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.30.131 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:57:44 -0800 (PST) From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:57:44 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: absurd I/O perf with ZFS: hangs on zfs->cv) To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm+JRuKnn0DSZrvv8pI4GGluYOdU6mhBtPSuDG01nDr3nQqeQ6CPOqC0ezZhOs1IMIcaGlR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 04:58:17 -0000 Hi all. Running FreeBSD 9.1-Release, I am seeing some absurd hangs (10 minutes or more to open a file) with SIGINFO informing me that the process is stuck on zio->io_cv. Does anyone have any suggestions for what I want to look at to tune this? This is on a newly bought laptop with large amounts of RAM and almost nothing else running. Please CC me as I am not subscribed. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 05:40:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013B4D24 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:40:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from azhegalov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f175.google.com (mail-vc0-f175.google.com [209.85.220.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DE7969 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id fy7so953642vcb.34 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:40:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Xv3T9/0bc6n7ms5K0LfgGu53iy2dmDZa20Yh0gkylyc=; b=wJZ5YaKR6iZKTVgB1zh7gkXdZzXwjsJuxjHGl0zNGW2bJPBxca9vHBC1RYEtFPrJhK hnNOd922+OuB6CXPyGe4yOBii+ufD5d9w72dKyvy312QrHQ1E+CYLcEdKzg7i3+yOoWZ iYIig0cAvW9dZ5hFDDq85idTUq7FG3U8/S2byxq8oBl88t3gwSscGqZHQMaT4Z/HrBo6 c/6LhrZEyEOEi2C5Fh2iLosuOyKAWJaiyfBTGxiNznI6AO3m3KuNPbhEq0pTJybisZIW BMcJtPejN6BGIZ6RXLrDWZcTnNpKnv6RET+oLFFJyW3nNxSV5qAGGSHA8iWSI5KzoLz6 jyEg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.19.172 with SMTP id g12mr93622633vde.14.1358314805547; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.114.232 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:40:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:40:05 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-i386 geom mirror+stripe question. From: Alexander Zhegalov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:40:12 -0000 Hi. Is it possible to configure geom mirror+stripe (looks like RAID10)? Trying to do it in VirtualBox: gmirror label -v gm11 /dev/ada0s2 /dev/ada1s2 gmirror label -v gm12 /dev/ada2s2 /dev/ada3s2 gstripe label -v gs0 /dev/mirror/gm11 /dev/mirror/gm12 newfs -U /dev/stripe/gs0 mount /dev/stripe/gs0 /mnt 'shutdown -r now' stucks in 'GEOM_MIRROR: cannot destroy gm11' I also tried to BSD label /dev/stripe/gs0: gpart create -s BSD /dev/stripe/gs0 gpart add -t freebsd-ufs /dev/stripe/gs0 after newfs -U /dev/stripe/gs0a got GEOM_PART: partition 1 has end offset beyond last LBA: 4193919 > 2097079 GEOM_PART: integrity check failed (mirror/gm11, BSD) mount /dev/stripe/gs0a /mnt 'shutdown -r now' stucks in 'GEOM_MIRROR: cannot destroy gm11' Any idea? --- Best regards, Alexander. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 06:31:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2728FA89 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 06:31:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CEEB7C for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 06:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f53.google.com with SMTP id j5so485683bkw.12 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:31:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=MRhvfgRgPZnidoGOW9eIwpV0OYmlxGO6PWhik5oX4b4=; b=m/ihs2VJ4fDHcY7hNxQhxkpImRdWQG0rlrtnBAPVj2zbaCz1NONrCpWNs1TrOIVjcF I82/JKCmbWC4TlNhbfaWKaSX7/rHxBLKrJaFp4lVr9MAD4laihmoFDcq+BywZqgnkkIO ulr3Z+uvH/L7jMuyvAl0X/FlagydDTnGqoK3g6DKlI8isyS0XqH8y3i3DZMhbtyiEQru 2GHN4n3AHGX0gqMQX1EpatxZI7zMaGFdx10ie9Geak2Vlds+AmSuem4Fb8HJbOL1na3K P2qHpQoA7hoakFMohT9ZBChYH22F58nMjO5SBHj4i83i5AqyHU76HMO/fUTZFZ/TocXD TP6A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.130.87 with SMTP id r23mr41034369bks.90.1358317908833; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.75.211 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.75.211 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:31:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F5C32F.7010702@aboutsupport.com> References: <50F5B265.6040106@aboutsupport.com> <50F5BAA0.8020605@aboutsupport.com> <50F5C32F.7010702@aboutsupport.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:31:48 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ffmpef 1.1 From: Waitman Gobble To: "Zyumbilev, Peter" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 06:31:56 -0000 On Jan 15, 2013 12:59 PM, "Zyumbilev, Peter" wrote: > > > > On 15/01/2013 22:27, Mark Felder wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:22:56 -0600, Zyumbilev, Peter > > wrote: > > > >> 1.1 has REALLY cool features - burn subtitles > > > > Hardcoded subs are the worst :( > > > > I will wait a little before going the compile route... > > > For subs,I am with Samsung which works like charm with sepate srt file, > however I want to build such setup who is with Sony and Sony supports > only burned subtitles :( > did you try multimedia/ffmpeg-devel, its pulls from svn. for subtitles I think you are talking about libass? its been in svn head for awhile. Waitman Gobble San Jose California _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 06:53:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649AD11B for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 06:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jau@jau.iki.fi) Received: from jau.iki.fi (ip193-64-26-117.cust.eunet.fi [193.64.26.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFE4D68 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 06:53:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jau.iki.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jau.iki.fi (8.14.6/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0G6RaPf014901 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:27:36 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from jau@jau.iki.fi) Received: (from jau@localhost) by jau.iki.fi (8.14.6/8.14.5/Submit) id r0G6Ra6Y014900 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:27:36 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from jau) Message-Id: <201301160627.r0G6Ra6Y014900@jau.iki.fi> Subject: Anyone else seeing problems with dtrace and cyclic in 9.1-stable??? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:27:35 +0200 (EET) From: jau@iki.fi (Jukka A. Ukkonen) Sender: jau@iki.fi Latin-Date: dies Mercurii XVI Ianuarie a.d. MMXIII Organization: Private person OS-Platform: FreeBSD Phone: +358-9-6215280 (home) / +358-500-606671 (gsm) Content-Conversion: prohibited X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25+pgp] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (jau.iki.fi [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:27:36 +0200 (EET) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: jau@iki.fi List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 06:53:40 -0000 Greetings all, Has anyone else seen these errors during 9.1-stable boot... Jan 16 08:12:05 sleipnir kernel: link_elf_obj: symbol cyclic_clock_func undefined Jan 16 08:12:05 sleipnir kernel: KLD file cyclic.ko - could not finalize loading Jan 16 08:12:05 sleipnir kernel: KLD file dtrace.ko - cannot find dependency "cyclic" This began around 14th - 15th Jan 2013. I have no recollection of seeing these symptoms before. Cheers, // jau .--- ..- -.- -.- .- .- .-.-.- ..- -.- -.- --- -. . -. / Jukka A. Ukkonen, Oxit Ltd, Finland /__ M.Sc. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 11:00:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125435CD for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [94.23.254.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08E0D89 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr129166.localdomain (mr129166.cri.univ-rennes1.fr [129.20.129.166]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 69D30A910; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:00:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from mr129166 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mr129166.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B7062F9; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:00:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:00:15 +0100 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: "Thomas D. Dean" Subject: Re: time_t definition Message-ID: <20130116120015.3b8d0db4@mr129166> In-Reply-To: <50F5A189.7000701@speakeasy.org> References: <50F5A189.7000701@speakeasy.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:00:26 -0000 Le Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:35:53 -0800, "Thomas D. Dean" a écrit : Hello, > I am attempting to recompile some code from an older version. > > > uname -a > FreeBSD ZD7000 9.1-STABLE FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE #1: Sun Jan 13 23:44:33 > PST 2013 root@ZD7000:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > > make > gcc47 -O2 -pipe -I../../include -std=gnu99 -fstack-protector > -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized > -Wno-pointer-sign -c data-collection.c > data-collection.c: In function 'main': > data-collection.c:214:4: error: format '%ld' expects argument of type > 'long int', but argument 3 has type 'time_t' [-Werror=format] > data-collection.c:234:4: error: format '%ld' expects argument of type > 'long int', but argument 3 has type 'time_t' [-Werror=format] > cc1: all warnings being treated as errors > *** [data-collection.o] Error code 1 > > > > cat data-collection.c > ... > #include /* time_t */ > #include /* gettimeofday() */ > ... > gettimeofday(&spi_stop, &tz); / * line 211 */ > printf("Loop %d, SPI %ld %ld\n", > loop, > spi_stop.tv_sec, spi_stop.tv_usec); > ... > gettimeofday(&disk_stop, &tz); /* line 231 */ > printf("Loop %d, Disk %ld %ld\n", > loop, > disk_stop.tv_sec, disk_stop.tv_usec); > ... > > time.h defines time_t > > #ifndef _TIME_T_DECLARED > typedef __time_t time_t; > #define _TIME_T_DECLARED > #endif > > sys/time.h includes sys/types.h which includes sys/_types.h which > includes machine/_types.h where __time_t is defined > > typedef __int32_t __time_t; /* time()... */ > > Question: Why do I see the error? Looks like gcc47 checks the printf format string (-Wformat) Disable this check or convert your time_t. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 11:08:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6CD905 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:08:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED9DDED for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490B25E4BF for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:08:04 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.992 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.992 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.089, BAYES_00=-2.599, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 8jbAdAmzkwvg for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:08:02 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (unknown [195.216.53.111]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EAF45E4C3 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:08:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50F68A1E.7090001@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:08:14 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: A little OT: VNCviewer recent_hosts does not work Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:08:23 -0000 I'm using vnc-4.1.3_5 on FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE with xfce4. I have about 10 different hosts that I usually connect to. I would like these hosts to be in a drop down menu so I just have to pick the one I need to connect to. From what I can read on-line the hosts should be saved to $HOME/.vnc/recent_hosts This file is not created by vncviewer and adding it manually has no effect. I would like to know if it's possible and in that case how to achieve what I want. Thank you. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 11:14:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07205A6C for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17FFE34 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:14:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:14:09 +0100 Message-ID: <50F68B7F.8060404@ose.nl> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:14:07 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A little OT: VNCviewer recent_hosts does not work References: <50F68A1E.7090001@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <50F68A1E.7090001@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:14:12 -0000 On 01/16/2013 12:08 PM, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > I'm using vnc-4.1.3_5 on FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE with xfce4. > > I have about 10 different hosts that I usually connect to. > > I would like these hosts to be in a drop down menu so I just have to pick > the one I need to connect to. > > From what I can read on-line the hosts should be saved to > $HOME/.vnc/recent_hosts > > This file is not created by vncviewer and adding it manually has no effect. > > I would like to know if it's possible and in that case how to achieve what > I want. > > Thank you. > > /Leslie I'm not sure about vnc but use remmina for this type of stuff. When installed with the appropriate plugins, it can connect via vnc, ssh and rdp. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 11:36:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08174D3C for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:36:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B815DF46 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6C15E336; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:36:02 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.991 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.991 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.088, BAYES_00=-2.599, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id zEWI7Hu1oHJ1; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:36:00 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (unknown [195.216.53.111]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C855E0E1; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:36:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50F690AC.2030809@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:36:12 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bas Smeelen Subject: Re: A little OT: VNCviewer recent_hosts does not work References: <50F68A1E.7090001@eskk.nu> <50F68B7F.8060404@ose.nl> In-Reply-To: <50F68B7F.8060404@ose.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:36:16 -0000 2013-01-16 12:14, Bas Smeelen skrev: > On 01/16/2013 12:08 PM, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> >> I'm using vnc-4.1.3_5 on FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE with xfce4. >> >> I have about 10 different hosts that I usually connect to. >> >> I would like these hosts to be in a drop down menu so I just have to >> pick the one I need to connect to. >> >> From what I can read on-line the hosts should be saved to >> $HOME/.vnc/recent_hosts >> >> This file is not created by vncviewer and adding it manually has no >> effect. >> >> I would like to know if it's possible and in that case how to achieve >> what I want. >> >> Thank you. >> >> /Leslie > > I'm not sure about vnc but use remmina for this type of stuff. > When installed with the appropriate plugins, it can connect via vnc, ssh > and rdp. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Thanks for your suggestion. Remmina looks as if it's exactly what I need. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 18:14:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4F7970 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE24F8F for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.49]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72ABBA71A6E for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 10677 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2013 18:14:09 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 31143, pid: 25738, t: 0.1802s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.7]) (tomdean@[24.113.104.91]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Jan 2013 18:14:09 -0000 Message-ID: <50F6EDFB.70501@speakeasy.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:14:19 -0800 From: "Thomas D. Dean" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: time_t definition References: <50F5A189.7000701@speakeasy.org> <20130116120015.3b8d0db4@mr129166> In-Reply-To: <20130116120015.3b8d0db4@mr129166> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail5.sea5 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=8.0 tests=HOT_NASTY, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:14:12 -0000 On 01/16/13 03:00, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > Looks like gcc47 checks the printf format string (-Wformat) > Disable this check or convert your time_t. Yes, I know gcc47 checks the format string. But, time_t is of type int32, from a typedef statement. #include typedef int zzz; typedef zzz yyy; typedef yyy xxx; int main() { xxx idx; for (idx=0; idx<10; idx++) printf("%d\n",idx); return 0; } does not produce the error (I did this on the 'other' system) > gcc --version gcc (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) 4.6.3 ... > gcc -O2 -pipe -I../../include -std=gnu99 -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -Wno-pointer-sign xxx.c -o xxx I did not think to do this on the FreeBSD system I was using yesterday. What I don't understand is where gcc is losing track of this definition. In 9.0, or maybe earlier, the definition of time_t was changed with a view toward 64-bit systems. I remember a statement to the effect of "in 2038, 32-bit time will overflow. It is unlikely that many 32-biot systems will be around then. So, making the change to 64-bit now will prevent having to do it in the future". So, now, it seems that any calculation involving time_t requires a cast???? Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 18:21:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EEAF62 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A54B7F for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k14so1761916oag.14 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:21:03 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=BfP4ecxnviqQ05dYU2tYyAHcBRMtda9qPo72q5WUrf8=; b=c+FveJVqIxnVxb7OaNIOeZRJIrZWIhRBWiSFSc5UNN+Z19TRHSRYj5lM2GUV0gsYeq yxdR8YWQWBX9wZwpCBzpGPxeJMO6VhK1Y1Jrtqnqhjz6ZbHyiZO80YiyLCwb0rx3fUI1 9t30ckj3jhTRQjeb0yTn4p9NIn+JXeAxA38QGndmz06VyXwZI89mXiYicWqfXkXmV6gm vY6r3HcDpkI7fd0oB0KJJ+4mcgAG37pIs9bGzaLAoi1yEt77+3T0D/WXhfLjBoq7GmTR DIl/mqV5Z38OkXGhl5Oo4xESBf3cZXZvZ80VEhS8Uw+5Q7G/1i2Y/+YFe/RAIddD9ZKK D7xg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.149.106 with SMTP id tz10mr1679456obb.13.1358360463487; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.119.9 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:21:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50F6EDFB.70501@speakeasy.org> References: <50F5A189.7000701@speakeasy.org> <20130116120015.3b8d0db4@mr129166> <50F6EDFB.70501@speakeasy.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:21:03 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: time_t definition From: Michael Sierchio To: "Thomas D. Dean" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmHw6JfBgAdLEQWb7jUtt6wz798BnesAUKajNgGwmhQWmIKFy2DXgWGBCgkGDG3WKgkKIi2 Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:21:09 -0000 Top posting for brevity - the fact is, the code in your original example is wrong. There are reasons to complain about argument size mismatches, esp. in print functions that call (versions of) malloc. You should cast the time_t value explicitly, or use %d instead of %ld. - M On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > On 01/16/13 03:00, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > >> Looks like gcc47 checks the printf format string (-Wformat) >> Disable this check or convert your time_t. > > > Yes, I know gcc47 checks the format string. > > But, time_t is of type int32, from a typedef statement. > > > #include > typedef int zzz; > typedef zzz yyy; > typedef yyy xxx; > int main() { > xxx idx; > for (idx=0; idx<10; idx++) printf("%d\n",idx); > return 0; > } > > does not produce the error (I did this on the 'other' system) >> gcc --version > gcc (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) 4.6.3 > ... > >> gcc -O2 -pipe -I../../include -std=gnu99 -fstack-protector >> -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized >> -Wno-pointer-sign xxx.c -o xxx > > I did not think to do this on the FreeBSD system I was using yesterday. > > What I don't understand is where gcc is losing track of this definition. > > In 9.0, or maybe earlier, the definition of time_t was changed with a view > toward 64-bit systems. I remember a statement to the effect of "in 2038, > 32-bit time will overflow. It is unlikely that many 32-biot systems will be > around then. So, making the change to 64-bit now will prevent having to do > it in the future". > > So, now, it seems that any calculation involving time_t requires a cast???? > > Tom Dean > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 18:24:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6CE1DC for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A32CE for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:24:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 16 Jan 2013 13:24:37 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id CEQ38408; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:24:36 -0500 X-Auth-ID: roberthuff@rcn.com Received: from 209-6-84-183.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org) ([209.6.84.183]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 16 Jan 2013 13:24:36 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20726.61534.560876.700561@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:24:30 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: fsck can't determine fstype X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:24:37 -0000 Situation: I have a hard drive which may or may not have died already, from which I would _very_ much like to recover maybe 1 gbyte of data. After extracting it from the old machine, it's now hooked up to a system running: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Dec 30 12:52:09 EST 2012 amd64 "gpart show" identifies it as "ad1" with partition 2 as type "freebsd-ufs" and label "g_user". However: >> fsck /dev/ad1p2 fsck: could not determine filesystem type Adding " -t ufs " produces: huff@>> fsck -t ufs /ad1p2 ** /dev/ad1p2 ** Last Mounted on /usr ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes -2103374334359810 BAD I=342 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY -2103382924294404 BAD I=342 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY -2103391514228998 BAD I=342 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY -2103400104163592 BAD I=342 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY -2103408694098186 BAD I=342 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY -2103417284032780 BAD I=342 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY -2103425873967374 BAD I=342 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY -2103434463901968 BAD I=342 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY -2103443053836562 BAD I=342 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY -2103451643771156 BAD I=342 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY -2103460233705750 BAD I=342 UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY EXCESSIVE BAD BLKS I=342 CONTINUE? [yn] ^C ***** FILE SYSTEM STILL DIRTY ***** While I'm not an fs expert, this feels wrong. Is there some clue I'm missing? Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 18:38:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4275D8 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B10F1B5 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id r0GIfgWS054810; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:41:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:41:42 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201301161841.r0GIfgWS054810@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: tomdean@speakeasy.org Subject: Re: time_t definition In-Reply-To: <50F6EDFB.70501@speakeasy.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:38:27 -0000 > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:14:19 -0800 > From: "Thomas D. Dean" > Subject: Re: time_t definition > > On 01/16/13 03:00, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > > > Looks like gcc47 checks the printf format string (-Wformat) > > Disable this check or convert your time_t. > > Yes, I know gcc47 checks the format string. > > But, time_t is of type int32, from a typedef statement. *precisely* and the format string had "%ld". this IS a type mismatch, if a 'long' is a 64-bit value. > #include > typedef int zzz; > typedef zzz yyy; > typedef yyy xxx; > int main() { > xxx idx; > for (idx=0; idx<10; idx++) printf("%d\n",idx); > return 0; > } > > does not produce the error (I did this on the 'other' system) > > gcc --version > gcc (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) 4.6.3 > ... > > > gcc -O2 -pipe -I../../include -std=gnu99 -fstack-protector > -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized > -Wno-pointer-sign xxx.c -o xxx > > I did not think to do this on the FreeBSD system I was using yesterday. > > What I don't understand is where gcc is losing track of this definition. It *isn't*. > > In 9.0, or maybe earlier, the definition of time_t was changed with a > view toward 64-bit systems. I remember a statement to the effect of "in > 2038, 32-bit time will overflow. It is unlikely that many 32-biot > systems will be around then. So, making the change to 64-bit now will > prevent having to do it in the future". > > So, now, it seems that any calculation involving time_t requires a cast???? FALSE. Calculation is OK. I/O format conversion is problematic. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 18:42:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D55184F for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD831FF for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jg9so892860bkc.14 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:42:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=82j61QLF6IZFAgAYHhnOILjYgV/Lsi0fMIOwiGyfPRE=; b=EDLoN7TmM0SKnrUhxAqBgW3hmUj3pOxrOwEiF1fP4Qby93TgYF37htbY38Yr45K4jj a5Hpm9TcvOm6D5mIVLgy5M08tmBsnCeDGwigOWG3jpgq5xsezRmBbgpwfPuvfUyat9xF 2TWnDv962N+uKNl2E+VNvi54fq7p+s56ardtuPkGR8FJ0HywGzoQ/NQBOXTQLvXOx3Nc 6W75ALxWyJpY4M3bz3Oddi96GmK2tK9y+1UK9Z2BIAiniDAuRfabpaoNiNtMObAEtviz nI8rbUb2KeNiVwpKccOhZ9lYlNv6yRDm0KfyvtZRbo91bPfjQfnk3jB5Hijv6iDukZYl 3zvg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.12.220 with SMTP id y28mr786735bky.112.1358361754741; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:42:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.75.211 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:42:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.75.211 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:42:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20726.61534.560876.700561@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <20726.61534.560876.700561@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:42:34 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: fsck can't determine fstype From: Waitman Gobble To: Robert Huff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:42:42 -0000 On Jan 16, 2013 10:24 AM, "Robert Huff" wrote: > > > Situation: > I have a hard drive which may or may not have died already, > from which I would _very_ much like to recover maybe 1 gbyte of data. > After extracting it from the old machine, it's now hooked up to > a system running: > > FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Dec 30 12:52:09 EST 2012 amd64 > > "gpart show" identifies it as "ad1" with partition 2 as type > "freebsd-ufs" and label "g_user". > However: > > >> fsck /dev/ad1p2 > fsck: could not determine filesystem type > > Adding " -t ufs " produces: > > huff@>> fsck -t ufs /ad1p2 > ** /dev/ad1p2 > ** Last Mounted on /usr > ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes > -2103374334359810 BAD I=342 > UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY > > -2103382924294404 BAD I=342 > UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY > > -2103391514228998 BAD I=342 > UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY > > -2103400104163592 BAD I=342 > UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY > > -2103408694098186 BAD I=342 > UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY > > -2103417284032780 BAD I=342 > UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY > > -2103425873967374 BAD I=342 > UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY > > -2103434463901968 BAD I=342 > UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY > > -2103443053836562 BAD I=342 > UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY > > -2103451643771156 BAD I=342 > UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY > > -2103460233705750 BAD I=342 > UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY > > EXCESSIVE BAD BLKS I=342 > CONTINUE? [yn] ^C > ***** FILE SYSTEM STILL DIRTY ***** > > > While I'm not an fs expert, this feels wrong. > Is there some clue I'm missing? > > Respectfully, > > > Robert Huff > > ________________________________________ hi, you might try to force a read only mount, if the drive is clicking its probably losing "tracking", I have had luck in the past putting it in a ziplock and in the freezer for a good while. hope that helps. Waitman Gobble San Jose California _______ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 18:59:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C932C444 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D71316 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (rainbowwarrior.torservers.net [77.247.181.164]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 834815AD8 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 22:59:09 +0400 (MSK) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 22:58:32 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: svn bdb checkout? Message-ID: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:59:21 -0000 Hello. By far the 'portsnap' has a lag from svn. I think firefox-18.0,1 update was late at 4 days at the least, for instance. Thus I'd like to move to svn for base and ports. The only problem for me personally with svn is: its multiple '.svn' directoriees all over the repo. This is what I get checkouting every possible svn repository on the web. I've heard about 'bdb' kind of storage on the contrast from 'fsfs' which is what I complain about, the my '.svn's trouble source. So I'd like to know how could I checkout the sources without those '.svn' freakages. Just couldn't ixquick it out. The only possible way I know by the moment is: svn dump | svn restore kind of from the checked out repo to the newly created 'bdb' one. But I even have no idea if it can be updated from the same source again. And, 'bdb' svn backend is known of its lack of reliability. Should I treat it seriously in such a case, e. g., the repositories are a kind of large? Any clues? Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: 1754B9C1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 19:19:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8993C12F for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnagyjr1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yh0-f44.google.com (mail-yh0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9796F2 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f44.google.com with SMTP id f11so285581yha.31 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:19:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eWHqv1N2rHp39LREV1kTYGIIoOmft/WK9NIBAy/EYlA=; b=hdBoOZsgSHTsZX2+KzSfsKBFwXmQb3HnzBb2IQEeOaTtvZ/zkZWpUuO8l6mWtr9N/Y hgESTemFdur1KK+fep3MykBkpnqnqj+b+rhgah0AhLyVuH9+N/DSoDohEwbxVO8ah1q3 s++gcT9OvQg4v2yuOFdf33PtDL92zpBmRxz3o+lvBrHhc8y6kR///C6JosrdW01uIgLm K4mY8li/yvZJg4xs0D9LKPrqgLeE6eOa+g3ewzDkIGz+ZIe9OP1aPzXYipifKVaDydcQ rToWElJS1P3oetDOpt87CYcraxufp80tCIACS270m0eQQfRepVH8zONxwCmbNxNg8EVS ftKA== X-Received: by 10.236.89.107 with SMTP id b71mr2453108yhf.86.1358363962423; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (vid-196.dhcp.grp10.tnmmrl.infoave.net. [204.116.254.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w16sm17761044ank.19.2013.01.16.11.19.20 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:19:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:19:19 -0600 From: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Vereshagin Subject: Re: svn bdb checkout? References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> In-Reply-To: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:19:28 -0000 On 01/16/13 12:58, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hello. > > By far the 'portsnap' has a lag from svn. I think firefox-18.0,1 update was > late at 4 days at the least, for instance. > > Thus I'd like to move to svn for base and ports. Have you read the handbook? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html Subversion Method If more control over the ports tree is needed (for example, for maintaining local changes), Subversion can be used to obtain the Ports Collection. Refer to the Subversion Primer for a detailed description of Subversion. Subversion must be installed before it can be used to check out the ports tree. If a copy of the ports tree is already present, install Subversion like this: # cd /usr/ports/devel/subversion # make install clean If the ports tree is not available, Subversion can be installed as a package: # pkg_add -r subversion If pkgng is being used to manage packages, Subversion can be installed with it instead: # pkg install subversion Check out a copy of the ports tree. Use a specific Subversion mirror close to your geographic location instead of svn.FreeBSD.org in the command below for better performance. Committers should read the Subversion Primer first to be sure the correct protocol is chosen. # svn checkout svn://svn.FreeBSD.org/ports/head /usr/ports To update /usr/ports after the initial Subversion checkout: # svn update /usr/ports http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading.html That should help with base. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 19:36:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CA8A48 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFB5838 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (spftor4e1.privacyfoundation.ch [77.109.138.42]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0493F5AD4 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:36:13 +0400 (MSK) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:35:34 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn bdb checkout? Message-ID: <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:36:21 -0000 Hello. 2013/01/16 13:19:19 -0600 "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" => To Peter Vereshagin : JANJ> On 01/16/13 12:58, Peter Vereshagin wrote: JANJ> > Hello. JANJ> > JANJ> > By far the 'portsnap' has a lag from svn. I think firefox-18.0,1 update was JANJ> > late at 4 days at the least, for instance. JANJ> > JANJ> > Thus I'd like to move to svn for base and ports. JANJ> JANJ> JANJ> Have you read the handbook? JANJ> JANJ> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html & ... ? | grep -i bdb | wc -l 0 Over again: How could I 'svn checkout' the sources without those '.svn' subdirectories in the each and every repo's subdirectories? Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: 1754B9C1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 19:51:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEADD142 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnagyjr1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B242918 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:51:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gg0-f182.google.com with SMTP id q1so172298ggn.13 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:51:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ea9n/Um4ei1neVtz0Xjhk4npH/y8NotutW9rJT0nX7M=; b=gFkpEMRNXr9RZWhGeX+++8W7Rp+8mKMZqly6iweHS1mE0j3L7nySsD6lbEbRsbTrcL EJUrvL2XhS9K39ZtmQOhc+0Ld/WE8xQhdddkqHtea1yTWR11iiDW5Rn3ekn1ZTMpg5dP Xvd2z0XAVcBLTYtIMrsOjB2N7K3SbH6v10ar+yPa60cwWkIyqz+4Yzmgcsqxh7rL7j+N 82n+K2n0sQNFLQf3IOs8AXyqf2kHA/cE/bKR00EDgkncfoQmzeLLMMFwOMMEGTdmlOpJ zFfm+Cclgs0iAw46Iuf+XwCPF6p+nbhZGfdH2ZS2Kr2KQTDtcROkfYjrMEaPVBrUAbyk EO9g== X-Received: by 10.236.127.38 with SMTP id c26mr2627031yhi.109.1358365905654; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:51:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (vid-196.dhcp.grp10.tnmmrl.infoave.net. [204.116.254.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x41sm20210399yhg.9.2013.01.16.11.51.44 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:51:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F704CE.3010904@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:51:42 -0600 From: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Vereshagin Subject: Re: svn bdb checkout? References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> In-Reply-To: <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:51:46 -0000 On 01/16/13 13:35, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hello. > > 2013/01/16 13:19:19 -0600 "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" => To Peter Vereshagin : > JANJ> On 01/16/13 12:58, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > JANJ> > Hello. > JANJ> > > JANJ> > By far the 'portsnap' has a lag from svn. I think firefox-18.0,1 update was > JANJ> > late at 4 days at the least, for instance. > JANJ> > > JANJ> > Thus I'd like to move to svn for base and ports. > JANJ> > JANJ> > JANJ> Have you read the handbook? > JANJ> > JANJ> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html > > & ... > > ? > > | grep -i bdb | wc -l > > 0 > > Over again: How could I 'svn checkout' the sources without those '.svn' > subdirectories in the each and every repo's subdirectories? > > Thank you. As far as I know, you don't. It is part of how svn works. Those folders tell svn that they are controlled by svn. Deleting the .svn folder removes subversion control of that folder[0]. You can learn more, it seems, here[1]. [0]: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/154853/how-do-you-remove-subversion-control-for-a-folder [1]: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 20:08:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C72D3DC for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E56B9E6 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (bolobolo2.torservers.net [96.47.226.21]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 169475AD4 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:08:51 +0400 (MSK) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:07:54 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn bdb checkout? Message-ID: <20130116200754.GD8524@external.screwed.box> References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> <50F704CE.3010904@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50F704CE.3010904@gmail.com> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:08:58 -0000 Hello. 2013/01/16 13:51:42 -0600 "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" => To Peter Vereshagin : JANJ> On 01/16/13 13:35, Peter Vereshagin wrote: JANJ> > 2013/01/16 13:19:19 -0600 "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" => To Peter Vereshagin : JANJ> > JANJ> On 01/16/13 12:58, Peter Vereshagin wrote: JANJ> > JANJ> > Hello. JANJ> > JANJ> > JANJ> > JANJ> > By far the 'portsnap' has a lag from svn. I think firefox-18.0,1 update was JANJ> > JANJ> > late at 4 days at the least, for instance. JANJ> > JANJ> > JANJ> > JANJ> > Thus I'd like to move to svn for base and ports. JANJ> > JANJ> JANJ> > JANJ> JANJ> > JANJ> Have you read the handbook? JANJ> > JANJ> JANJ> > JANJ> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html JANJ> > JANJ> > & ... JANJ> > JANJ> > ? JANJ> > JANJ> > | grep -i bdb | wc -l JANJ> > JANJ> > 0 JANJ> > JANJ> > Over again: How could I 'svn checkout' the sources without those '.svn' JANJ> > subdirectories in the each and every repo's subdirectories? JANJ> > JANJ> > Thank you. JANJ> JANJ> As far as I know, you don't. It is part of how svn works. Those folders JANJ> tell svn that they are controlled by svn. This is for the case of the svn's 'fsfs' backend. There is the different backend, the 'bdb' one that keeps data not in the '.svn' subdirectories but in the 'bdb' format and it's the repository(-ies) -wide single database with its single file system location. JANJ> Deleting the .svn folder removes subversion control of that folder[0]. JANJ> You can learn more, it seems, here[1]. No, I do not want to delete the '.svn' directories but I want them to not to be created at all, like it was created with 'svnadmin create --fs-type bdb' but as a resuit of a checkout. There was someone here arguing about 'fossil' that (s)he updates from the freebsd repositories into the 'bdb'- backend'ed svn repo, I'd like to know a way to 'svn checkout' like this at first. Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: 1754B9C1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 20:24:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92784BE3 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:24:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (mail1.sourcehosting.net [74.205.51.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C074AD5 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 24-181-237-39.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([24.181.237.39] helo=Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.73 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TvZWk-00090u-SZ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:24:05 -0500 Received: from Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D66681954BA1; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:24:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50F70C60.4000108@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:24:00 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Vereshagin References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> <50F704CE.3010904@gmail.com> <20130116200754.GD8524@external.screwed.box> In-Reply-To: <20130116200754.GD8524@external.screwed.box> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 24.181.237.39 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: glarkin@FreeBSD.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail1.sourcehosting.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Subject: Re: svn bdb checkout? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.sourcehosting.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:24:12 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 1/16/13 3:07 PM, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hello. > > 2013/01/16 13:51:42 -0600 "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" > => To Peter Vereshagin : JANJ> On 01/16/13 > 13:35, Peter Vereshagin wrote: JANJ> > 2013/01/16 13:19:19 -0600 > "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" => To Peter > Vereshagin : JANJ> > JANJ> On 01/16/13 12:58, Peter Vereshagin > wrote: JANJ> > JANJ> > Hello. JANJ> > JANJ> > JANJ> > JANJ> > By > far the 'portsnap' has a lag from svn. I think firefox-18.0,1 > update was JANJ> > JANJ> > late at 4 days at the least, for > instance. JANJ> > JANJ> > JANJ> > JANJ> > Thus I'd like to move to > svn for base and ports. JANJ> > JANJ> JANJ> > JANJ> JANJ> > > JANJ> Have you read the handbook? JANJ> > JANJ> JANJ> > JANJ> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html > > > JANJ> > > JANJ> > & ... JANJ> > JANJ> > ? JANJ> > JANJ> > | grep -i bdb | wc > -l JANJ> > JANJ> > 0 JANJ> > JANJ> > Over again: How could I 'svn > checkout' the sources without those '.svn' JANJ> > subdirectories > in the each and every repo's subdirectories? JANJ> > JANJ> > Thank > you. JANJ> JANJ> As far as I know, you don't. It is part of how > svn works. Those folders JANJ> tell svn that they are controlled > by svn. > > This is for the case of the svn's 'fsfs' backend. > > There is the different backend, the 'bdb' one that keeps data not > in the '.svn' subdirectories but in the 'bdb' format and it's the > repository(-ies) -wide single database with its single file system > location. The fsfs and bdb backends refer only to the server side of the Subversion repository. Each one represents a different way of storing the repository data on the server side and doesn't have any bearing on the .svn directory inside of a client-side working copy. Also note that in earlier versions of the Subversion client, .svn directories were created at all levels of the working copy. Since 1.7, there is one .svn directory per working copy, but that doesn't have anything to do with the backend repository format. > > JANJ> Deleting the .svn folder removes subversion control of that > folder[0].. JANJ> You can learn more, it seems, here[1]. > > No, I do not want to delete the '.svn' directories but I want them > to not to be created at all, like it was created with 'svnadmin > create --fs-type bdb' but as a resuit of a checkout. Reiterating - bdb (or fsfs) on the server side has nothing to do with the presence or absence of the .svn directory in a working copy on the client side. > > There was someone here arguing about 'fossil' that (s)he updates > from the freebsd repositories into the 'bdb'- backend'ed svn > repo, I'd like to know a way to 'svn checkout' like this at first. > > Thank you. Please see my message from a similar thread a few months ago for a possible solution: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.questions/294398 In short, "svn export" is the way to pull source code out of a Subversion repository with the .svn directory. However, that command cannot be used repeatedly to update the same directory tree, but the svn-export wrapper script mentioned in the thread above aims to do that. I still have not researched that tool to see if it works as advertised or not. If anyone wants to create a port for svn-export and send it my way for review, I would be happy to do that. Otherwise, I expect to have a look myself within the next few months. Regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/cpucycle/ - Follow you, follow me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlD3DGAACgkQ0sRouByUApD7/ACeIZodWqsQS+vU2zU4WY/eTOTS l1wAn14kbyP3feudZvG3bt7d8pbJrSd0 =BDjD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 20:47:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D94D25E for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.161.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C55BCD6 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:47:37 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MGQ003SUHN6DH40@nk11p00mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:47:31 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-01-16_06:2013-01-16,2013-01-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1301160190 Subject: Re: svn bdb checkout? From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:47:30 -0800 Message-id: <4C2E8376-3779-4456-8BB8-8E8C1986D797@mac.com> References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> To: Peter Vereshagin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:47:37 -0000 On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Peter Vereshagin wrote: [ ... ] > Over again: How could I 'svn checkout' the sources without those '.svn' > subdirectories in the each and every repo's subdirectories? If you're using Subversion-1.7 on the client side, there's only one .svn subdirectory at the top level, rather than the older workarea format where each subdirectory has it's own .svn subdir. Another alternative would be to use "svn export" instead of "svn checkout". This will give you the files without .svn directories; however, you won't have a workarea which you can update, see what's changed with svn diff, etc. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 20:56:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC565AC for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA133D60 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:56:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (tor21.anonymizer.ccc.de [31.172.30.4]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 653255B32; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:56:19 +0400 (MSK) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:55:35 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: svn-export Re: svn bdb checkout? Message-ID: <20130116205533.GE8524@external.screwed.box> References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> <50F704CE.3010904@gmail.com> <20130116200754.GD8524@external.screwed.box> <50F70C60.4000108@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50F70C60.4000108@FreeBSD.org> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Cc: xyne@archlinux.ca X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:56:24 -0000 Hello. 2013/01/16 15:24:00 -0500 Greg Larkin => To Peter Vereshagin : GL> On 1/16/13 3:07 PM, Peter Vereshagin wrote: GL> > 2013/01/16 13:51:42 -0600 "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" GL> > => To Peter Vereshagin : JANJ> On 01/16/13 GL> > 13:35, Peter Vereshagin wrote: JANJ> > 2013/01/16 13:19:19 -0600 GL> The fsfs and bdb backends refer only to the server side of the GL> Subversion repository. Each one represents a different way of storing Ouch! there's the difference that Git made me to forget about, sorry. GL> the repository data on the server side and doesn't have any bearing on GL> the .svn directory inside of a client-side working copy. GL> GL> Also note that in earlier versions of the Subversion client, .svn GL> directories were created at all levels of the working copy. Since GL> 1.7, there is one .svn directory per working copy, but that doesn't GL> have anything to do with the backend repository format. Cool. Heard it but was googled into the wrong direction. GL> In short, "svn export" is the way to pull source code out of a GL> Subversion repository with the .svn directory. However, that command Will try. Stuck with: $ xz -d svn-export-2012.12.24.1.tar.xz xz: svn-export-2012.12.24.1.tar.xz: File format not recognized Shall I update from 'xz-4.999.9_1' then? GL> If anyone wants to create a port for svn-export and send it my way for GL> review, I would be happy to do that. Otherwise, I expect to have a GL> look myself within the next few months. A 'why not', too. (= Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: 1754B9C1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 21:04:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7769DB for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E58DE2 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (tor21.anonymizer.ccc.de [31.172.30.4]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 671E15AD4 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:04:49 +0400 (MSK) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:04:40 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn bdb checkout? Message-ID: <20130116210440.GG8524@external.screwed.box> References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> <4C2E8376-3779-4456-8BB8-8E8C1986D797@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C2E8376-3779-4456-8BB8-8E8C1986D797@mac.com> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:04:52 -0000 Hello. 2013/01/16 11:47:30 -0800 Chuck Swiger => To Peter Vereshagin : CS> On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Peter Vereshagin wrote: CS> [ ... ] CS> > Over again: How could I 'svn checkout' the sources without those '.svn' CS> > subdirectories in the each and every repo's subdirectories? CS> CS> If you're using Subversion-1.7 on the client side, there's only one .svn CS> subdirectory at the top level, rather than the older workarea format CS> where each subdirectory has it's own .svn subdir. Oops I didn't yet... CS> Another alternative would be to use "svn export" instead of "svn checkout". CS> This will give you the files without .svn directories; however, you won't CS> have a workarea which you can update, see what's changed with svn diff, etc. Difference between 'work tree' and 'repo database' - kind of informed about, ok. Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: 1754B9C1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 21:12:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C470CBD7 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85771E4F for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (herngaard.torservers.net [96.44.189.102]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 112A15AD8 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:12:08 +0400 (MSK) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:11:30 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn bdb checkout? Message-ID: <20130116211128.GA15266@external.screwed.box> References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> <50F704CE.3010904@gmail.com> <20130116200754.GD8524@external.screwed.box> <50F70C60.4000108@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50F70C60.4000108@FreeBSD.org> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:12:17 -0000 Hello. 2013/01/16 15:24:00 -0500 Greg Larkin => To Peter Vereshagin : GL> Please see my message from a similar thread a few months ago for a GL> possible solution: GL> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.questions/294398 ANother heck is I can't see officially where can I search for the lists. Sadly the lists.freebsd.org doesn't have a 'Search'? Um, wasn't it a 'freebsd lists admin' reporting many whiles ago how efficiently (s)he had indexed them with 'udmsearch'/'mnogosearch'? What went wrong with that success story afterwards? Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: 1754B9C1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 21:21:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E25D22 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40888EB1 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:21:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:20:19 -0800 Message-ID: <50F7197C.1060503@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:19:56 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: understanding sparse files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2013 21:20:20.0745 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A19AF90:01CDF42F] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:21:23 -0000 I want to understand what is going on inside of sparse files. I have a test case set up. I have a small directory tree set up containing just the systems running libraries. The directory tree contains a copy of the following systems directories, /bin. /lib, /libexec, /sbin, and /usr which has a combined size of 195M. This directory tree is what gets copied into the sparse files I create. Now I create a sparse file with a allocated file size of 300M and copy that 195M directory tree into it. ls -lh shows 300M as the allocation size du -h shows 270M as the occupied size I would expect the occupied size to be 195M, the size of the source loaded into that sparse file. Now I reran the same test again changing only the allocation size to 1G. ls -lh shows 1G as the allocation size du -h shows 463M as the occupied size So my question is, why does the occupied size not match the real size of the data content in the sparse file? Also why as the allocated space increases does the occupied size increase? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 21:31:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6721D1B8 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (mail1.sourcehosting.net [74.205.51.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A186F3C for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 24-181-237-39.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([24.181.237.39] helo=Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.73 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TvaaA-0009OA-5h; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:31:40 -0500 Received: from Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by Gregory-Larkins-iMac.local (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD99C1955292; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:31:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50F71C2E.4000008@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:31:26 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Vereshagin References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> <50F704CE.3010904@gmail.com> <20130116200754.GD8524@external.screwed.box> <50F70C60.4000108@FreeBSD.org> <20130116205533.GE8524@external.screwed.box> In-Reply-To: <20130116205533.GE8524@external.screwed.box> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 24.181.237.39 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: glarkin@FreeBSD.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail1.sourcehosting.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Subject: Re: svn-export Re: svn bdb checkout? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.sourcehosting.net) Cc: xyne@archlinux.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:31:42 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 1/16/13 3:55 PM, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hello. > > 2013/01/16 15:24:00 -0500 Greg Larkin => To > Peter Vereshagin : GL> On 1/16/13 3:07 PM, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > GL> > 2013/01/16 13:51:42 -0600 "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" GL> > > => To Peter Vereshagin : JANJ> On 01/16/13 > GL> > 13:35, Peter Vereshagin wrote: JANJ> > 2013/01/16 13:19:19 > -0600 GL> The fsfs and bdb backends refer only to the server side > of the GL> Subversion repository. Each one represents a different > way of storing > > Ouch! there's the difference that Git made me to forget about, > sorry. > > GL> the repository data on the server side and doesn't have any > bearing on GL> the .svn directory inside of a client-side working > copy. GL> GL> Also note that in earlier versions of the Subversion > client, .svn GL> directories were created at all levels of the > working copy. Since GL> 1.7, there is one .svn directory per > working copy, but that doesn't GL> have anything to do with the > backend repository format. > > Cool. Heard it but was googled into the wrong direction. > > GL> In short, "svn export" is the way to pull source code out of a > GL> Subversion repository with the .svn directory. However, that > command > > Will try. Stuck with: > > $ xz -d svn-export-2012.12.24.1.tar.xz xz: > svn-export-2012.12.24.1.tar.xz: File format not recognized > > Shall I update from 'xz-4.999.9_1' then? I checked it with xz 5.0.0 on a FreeBSD 8.3 machine here, and I could decompress like so: # xz -d -c svn-export-2012.12.24.1.tar.xz | tar tvfB - drwxrwxr-x 0 root root 0 Dec 24 12:57 svn-export-2012.12.24.1/ - -rw-rw-r-- 0 root root 17972 Dec 24 12:57 svn-export-2012.12.24.1/COPYING drwxrwxr-x 0 root root 0 Dec 24 12:57 svn-export-2012.12.24.1/man.md/ - -rw-rw-r-- 0 root root 1350 Dec 24 12:57 svn-export-2012.12.24.1/man.md/svn-export.1.md - -rwxrwxr-x 0 root root 6482 Dec 24 12:57 svn-export-2012.12.24.1/svn-export drwxr-xr-x 0 xyne mx 0 Dec 23 22:48 svn-export-2012.12.24.1/man/ - -rw-r--r-- 0 xyne mx 771 Feb 17 2012 svn-export-2012.12.24.1/man/svn-export.1.gz # xz --version xz (XZ Utils) 5.0.0 liblzma 5.0.0 Regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/cpucycle/ - Follow you, follow me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlD3HC0ACgkQ0sRouByUApARsQCdGD503bA3t4PFzdsjhsD8UrSE 6I4An0vhcLUNUz86Kj/FNklKPGjEvTNC =xIoS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 21:32:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C4C253 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9087BF49 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F86A714B7 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:32:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1692 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2013 21:32:05 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 18242, pid: 12981, t: 0.4450s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13495 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.7]) (tomdean@[24.113.104.91]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Jan 2013 21:32:05 -0000 Message-ID: <50F71C5E.9040207@speakeasy.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:32:14 -0800 From: "Thomas D. Dean" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: time_t definition References: <201301161841.r0GIfgWS054810@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201301161841.r0GIfgWS054810@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail8.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=8.0 tests=RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 21:32:12 -0000 On 01/16/13 10:41, Robert Bonomi wrote: > *precisely* and the format string had "%ld". > this IS a type mismatch, if a 'long' is a 64-bit value. The original code was compiled on a 32-bit machine for a 32-bit target. I tried %d, %ld, and %lld with the same result. > > FALSE. Calculation is OK. I/O format conversion is problematic. In the simple example I posted, gcc did not complain of a format mismatch. But, in the case of time_t gcc does complain of a format mismatch. Both cases had the same number of typedef levels to get to a basic type and used the same compile command. Should have the same result... I am attempting to understand the difference. Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 23:17:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8896418F for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D3F6CB for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0GNHteV003934; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:17:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0GNHtMk003931; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:17:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:17:55 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Peter Vereshagin Subject: Re: svn bdb checkout? In-Reply-To: <20130116211128.GA15266@external.screwed.box> Message-ID: References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> <50F704CE.3010904@gmail.com> <20130116200754.GD8524@external.screwed.box> <50F70C60.4000108@FreeBSD.org> <20130116211128.GA15266@external.screwed.box> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:17:55 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:17:56 -0000 On Thu, 17 Jan 2013, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hello. > > 2013/01/16 15:24:00 -0500 Greg Larkin => To Peter Vereshagin : > GL> Please see my message from a similar thread a few months ago for a > GL> possible solution: > GL> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.questions/294398 > > ANother heck is I can't see officially where can I search for the lists. Sadly > the lists.freebsd.org doesn't have a 'Search'? Um, wasn't it a 'freebsd lists > admin' reporting many whiles ago how efficiently (s)he had indexed them with > 'udmsearch'/'mnogosearch'? What went wrong with that success story afterwards? markmail.org is not bad for FreeBSD list searches. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 00:17:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367098F4 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DBEA13 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-45-17.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.45.17]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C56A3DC2C; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:17:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0H0HLme001929; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:17:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:17:21 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Michael Sierchio Subject: Re: time_t definition Message-Id: <20130117011721.69799ef6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <50F5A189.7000701@speakeasy.org> <20130116120015.3b8d0db4@mr129166> <50F6EDFB.70501@speakeasy.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Thomas D. Dean" , "questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:17:21 -0000 On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:21:03 -0800, Michael Sierchio wrote: > Top posting for brevity - the fact is, the code in your original > example is wrong. There are reasons to complain about argument size > mismatches, esp. in print functions that call (versions of) malloc. > You should cast the time_t value explicitly, or use %d instead of %ld. This advice looks correct. If you use the source Luke, you'll find the following (taken from a 8.2-STABLE/i386 system source tree): /usr/src/sys/sys/types.h (line 253): typedef __time_t time_t; /usr/src/sys/i386/include/_types.h (line 97): typedef __int32_t __time_t; /usr/src/sys/i386/include/_types.h (line 55): typedef int __int32_t; So it boils down to (int), but %ld expects (long). This is the exact content of the warning. You can either case the (time_t) value to (long), or change %ld to %d to avoid the warning. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 00:28:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7DDC29 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:28:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CF3A92 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:28:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-45-17.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.45.17]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599023DC58; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:28:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0H0Sssl001976; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:28:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:28:54 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas D. Dean" Subject: Re: time_t definition Message-Id: <20130117012854.1170d49c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <50F71C5E.9040207@speakeasy.org> References: <201301161841.r0GIfgWS054810@mail.r-bonomi.com> <50F71C5E.9040207@speakeasy.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:28:53 -0000 On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:32:14 -0800, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > On 01/16/13 10:41, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > > *precisely* and the format string had "%ld". > > this IS a type mismatch, if a 'long' is a 64-bit value. > > The original code was compiled on a 32-bit machine for a 32-bit target. > I tried %d, %ld, and %lld with the same result. That's normal. As I did show in my previous message, (time_t) boils down to (int) which is as wide as the CPU architecture "naturally" uses it: On a 32 bit CPU, (int) is 32 bit, and on a 64 bit CPU, it's 64 bit. That's why you'll probably see something interesting when you use the source Luke for how the UFS file system stores time values: It uses (ufs_time_t) which is a typedef for (int64_t), a type that explicitely requires 64 bit, no matter if you're on a 32 bit CPU or a 64 bit CPU. Imagine it would be otherwise... ;-) > > FALSE. Calculation is OK. I/O format conversion is problematic. > > In the simple example I posted, gcc did not complain of a format mismatch. Because there was no format mismatch. > But, in the case of time_t gcc does complain of a format mismatch. As explained, this is _normal_. :-) > Both cases had the same number of typedef levels to get to a basic type > and used the same compile command. Should have the same result... It's not about the number of typedefs; it's about what it boils down to if you follow the chain to the machine level. :-) > I am attempting to understand the difference. Probably you will from my previous message. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 03:55:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9759F746 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 03:55:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f178.google.com (mail-lb0-f178.google.com [209.85.217.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B62D835 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 03:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f178.google.com with SMTP id l5so1566277lbo.9 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:55:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=cNNPLUl1d3nliO0vTElTwTnl/67loMTgGwM/9aboMLE=; b=P+dwxEpImTdKc0aeJZIAIaDhZnvwFckJ3h0bHRMCHUAA/lb0GUudrtOhPP3XhIZDQo hQ4Jb7Y19gdr6FbQUsNXDxd9nLW3ChHjDu8gNHdXCItHUeDH81UA2KqEWksFfvMoYu05 6zI2DY7vU3eDTYfB4GmzJLvNGgc2fTF8dj7hI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=cNNPLUl1d3nliO0vTElTwTnl/67loMTgGwM/9aboMLE=; b=fuIqejJo+huWl88SQylq+ygjMhWOUVZulAWDoxFL8uEgq7TC9AB0Xcw8Rf5s/kyo/S dK8LanfiGIFfupOK765GBaMCRlKB19JzHbxqD28naLhYLxG8ivgy8Nt3hGyVYKdGbYh/ eW0p9AdXwmz8Mnm82VkV9e0MBOPDXs8YnmI8uZeHw15Rts2FgskPmpAVhV33j/tl8CgW SLCkn0dhxUD7MI9rcFGEU3pR0NRj+xEfMjfxcUWQH+23Hw2lb4PynOOn+dF16z162HSg a47NAWCcgF2zkSeLUiACb9rWWN9Abw5qIrSD/eT1UOuEKld2JSr64B0Lsit14S+XUH5P k3Yw== X-Received: by 10.152.110.228 with SMTP id id4mr3311908lab.34.1358394948725; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:55:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.30.131 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:55:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 22:55:18 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: absurd I/O perf with ZFS: hangs on zfs->cv) To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmvm7y96/73AFI6SXgFoqXMcQvH9QBo+/8dPFBVhL67eXWjYM5wygqI15/9FF8Y++/f7ODZ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 03:55:56 -0000 On 15 January 2013 23:57, Eitan Adler wrote: > Hi all. > > > Running FreeBSD 9.1-Release, I am seeing some absurd hangs (10 minutes > or more to open a file) with SIGINFO informing me that the process is > stuck on zio->io_cv. > > Does anyone have any suggestions for what I want to look at to tune > this? This is on a newly bought laptop with large amounts of RAM and > almost nothing else running. It is taking me 45 minutes to make 5 commits to git. Something is wrong here but I have no idea what I should be looking at. Any ideas? -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 04:04:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC88F1C for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:04:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E4FCB9 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0H44GAZ078758 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 22:04:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <50F7783F.7020406@tundraware.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 22:04:15 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: OT: What Might Break getbostbyname() ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [192.168.0.1]); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 22:04:16 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: r0H44GAZ078758 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:04:34 -0000 This is not really a FreeBSD problem ... in fact, it's happening on a Solaris 10 machine. But because the TCP stack and its userland interface came from BSD, I am hoping some kind soul might have an insight into what's going on ... The machine in question does DNS lookups fine via dig or nslookup. I believe these connect directly to the DNS server(s) specified in /etc/resolv.conf. However, any program that uses gethostbyname() - like ping - fails and says it cannot resolve the name. I'm looking for hints here on why or how gethostbyname() and/or the network stack could get clobbered so as to not be able to talk to the DNS servers which I know are reachable via dig and nslookup. TIA, -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 04:15:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B675B67 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:15:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28F22C1 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (65-120-61-73.dia.static.qwest.net [65.120.61.73]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7DF565AD4 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:14:58 +0400 (MSK) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:14:25 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn bdb checkout? Message-ID: <20130117041424.GC15266@external.screwed.box> References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> <50F704CE.3010904@gmail.com> <20130116200754.GD8524@external.screwed.box> <50F70C60.4000108@FreeBSD.org> <20130116211128.GA15266@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:15:07 -0000 Hello. 2013/01/16 16:17:55 -0700 Warren Block => To Peter Vereshagin : WB> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013, Peter Vereshagin wrote: WB> > 2013/01/16 15:24:00 -0500 Greg Larkin => To Peter Vereshagin : WB> > GL> Please see my message from a similar thread a few months ago for a WB> > GL> possible solution: WB> > GL> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.questions/294398 WB> > WB> > ANother heck is I can't see officially where can I search for the lists. Sadly WB> > the lists.freebsd.org doesn't have a 'Search'? Um, wasn't it a 'freebsd lists WB> > admin' reporting many whiles ago how efficiently (s)he had indexed them with WB> > 'udmsearch'/'mnogosearch'? What went wrong with that success story afterwards? WB> WB> markmail.org is not bad for FreeBSD list searches. Sure, and I meant Gmane is neither. My question was: is it a good thing for freebsd project to rely on a third-party services now for such a sensitive thing like lists indexing/search? I remember it didn't in the past having an own full-text index. Is it a change? Expected is: to have a 'search' link from mailing list's page. Why shall I choose on my own that blindly? Third party index can be unknown to overlook some stuff. Aha! found it: http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists Problem was that this page: http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html was kind of 'Not found' the last time I visited it. (Navigation bar and an [h1] was 'Oh no:(') Although I wish such a corresponding link to be found on the list's 'mailman's page. Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: 1754B9C1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 04:24:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67A4E70 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:24:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69876D46 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (65-120-61-73.dia.static.qwest.net [65.120.61.73]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C6E15AD4 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:24:17 +0400 (MSK) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:23:56 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn bdb checkout? Message-ID: <20130117042356.GA5392@external.screwed.box> References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> <4C2E8376-3779-4456-8BB8-8E8C1986D797@mac.com> <20130116210440.GG8524@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130116210440.GG8524@external.screwed.box> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:24:22 -0000 Hello. 2013/01/17 01:04:40 +0400 Peter Vereshagin => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : PV> CS> If you're using Subversion-1.7 on the client side, there's only one .svn PV> Oops I didn't yet... * meant having svn-1.6 about here. Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: 1754B9C1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 04:52:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8825EF8 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576752F4 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638055E3BF for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 05:52:12 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.991 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.991 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.088, BAYES_00=-2.599, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.596] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id VoBOMGpFbbqc for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 05:52:10 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (unknown [195.216.53.111]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695AB5E3B9 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 05:52:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50F7838B.4030100@eskk.nu> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 05:52:27 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Periodic daily run output References: <201301161444.r0GEiJBk017281@bljbsd01.no-ip.org> In-Reply-To: <201301161444.r0GEiJBk017281@bljbsd01.no-ip.org> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <201301161444.r0GEiJBk017281@bljbsd01.no-ip.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:52:31 -0000 Hello. After upgrading to 9.1-RELEASE I'm seeing this message first in the daily output. Should I do anything to get rid of the message or is it ok? Thanks /Leslie ----------------------------------------- Removing old temporary files: find: -delete: unlink(./.sujournal): Operation not permitted /tmp/.sujournal -- End of daily output -- ----------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 04:54:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E79FC0 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E5331B for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (torrouter.ucar.edu [192.43.244.42]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E082B5B41; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:54:40 +0400 (MSK) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:54:31 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn-export Re: svn bdb checkout? Message-ID: <20130117045431.GB5392@external.screwed.box> References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> <50F704CE.3010904@gmail.com> <20130116200754.GD8524@external.screwed.box> <50F70C60.4000108@FreeBSD.org> <20130116205533.GE8524@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130116205533.GE8524@external.screwed.box> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Cc: xyne@archlinux.ca X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:54:45 -0000 Hello. 2013/01/17 00:55:33 +0400 Peter Vereshagin => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : PV> GL> If anyone wants to create a port for svn-export and send it my way for PV> GL> review, I would be happy to do that. Otherwise, I expect to have a PV> GL> look myself within the next few months. PV> PV> A 'why not', too. (= There's a thing about 'svn-export': It requires 'threaded' build of the perl known to be inappropriate for the production environment (if I'm not mistaken: this may be obsoltete). At the least this is in the lang/perl5.16/Makefile: .if defined(WITH_THREADS) #XXX .if ${ARCH} == "amd64" #XXX IGNORE= Threaded perl does not pass tests on ${ARCH} #XXX .endif CONFIGURE_ARGS+= -Dusethreads=y PKGNAMESUFFIX= -threaded WITH_PTHREAD= yes # it seems perl malloc has problems with threaded perl on FreeBSD .undef WITH_PERL_MALLOC .else CONFIGURE_ARGS+= -Dusethreads=n .endif I believe 'amd64' is the common architecture these days and 'perl malloc' is the feature needed for profiling and/or leaks detection. Good news is that such a stuff can be redone with forks instead of threads but it should take me the time amount I'm not supposed to have of the any early. By itself perl threading has a fabulously bad luck history, recently criticized for instance at: https://speakerdeck.com/stevan_little/perl-is-not-dead-it-is-a-dead-end Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: 1754B9C1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 06:49:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21694482 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D44846 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [172.17.17.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0H6nKFJ079172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:49:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0H6nKaU069951 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:49:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.6/8.14.5/Submit) id r0H6nKM6069950; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:49:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:49:20 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Tim Daneliuk Subject: Re: OT: What Might Break getbostbyname() ? Message-ID: <20130117064920.GD42469@dan.emsphone.com> References: <50F7783F.7020406@tundraware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50F7783F.7020406@tundraware.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (email2.allantgroup.com [172.17.19.78]); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:49:20 -0600 (CST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on email2.allantgroup.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:49:30 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 16), Tim Daneliuk said: > This is not really a FreeBSD problem ... in fact, it's happening on a > Solaris 10 machine. But because the TCP stack and its userland interface > came from BSD, I am hoping some kind soul might have an insight into > what's going on ... Solaris hasn't used a BSD TCP stack for many many years afaik.. > The machine in question does DNS lookups fine via dig or nslookup. I > believe these connect directly to the DNS server(s) specified in > /etc/resolv.conf. > > However, any program that uses gethostbyname() - like ping - fails and > says it cannot resolve the name. > > I'm looking for hints here on why or how gethostbyname() and/or the > network stack could get clobbered so as to not be able to talk to the DNS > servers which I know are reachable via dig and nslookup. First, check /etc/nsswitch.conf and verify that "dns" is listed on the "hosts:" line. Next, try disabling nscd ("svcadm disable name-service-cache") , and then running "truss ping www.google.com" (make sure to reenable nscd when you're done debugging). You should see syscalls to open /etc/resolv.conf, read the contents, and then open a socket to the nameserver listed in that file. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 08:47:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3984A9B for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-f47.google.com (mail-la0-f47.google.com [209.85.215.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2B6D03 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id fh20so2317427lab.20 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:47:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x6MmrqXZFu2oWml4m/nraTfo0ySLGoz1+rHyAeieNNw=; b=S0Tcsa4V+HL20zjxsoAvdwtfRpsfq+sOzVkYbEPDueEqnuMZEv1p7fFOfzAxVvXEpH jR24qNL3xB3sivlAXg2IQYqFZh1IRf1xX2W8VR/TEwAW7Uxe+zLaKKq/XzFXcnZWVGEw 6pRQVf2XtfoKjXUHQHpb37fbv4me/s8G7r6opUQeLI+Sj08GI6R7al691R/CeQP/i7vI yrAnwXqGqWoS75uxMf1ebAt0lNWuxVbns4ApXbswGRkophkuSAdnrkNN2WbkHjxzg+/g Xg9oI5rRhYNmAyV1bsylX6HgOMQWMAuVwrO/evRFb2RNV15lPCpqkKET6IA7JIoNLjaR HiAg== X-Received: by 10.112.100.195 with SMTP id fa3mr1916556lbb.38.1358412457016; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:47:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (wifi-osiris-sec-182-36.u-strasbg.fr. [130.79.182.36]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fh4sm385028lbb.7.2013.01.17.00.47.32 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:47:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F7BA96.1040001@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:47:18 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130115 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Change branch with svn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:47:38 -0000 Hello folks, Just wanted to switch from RELEASE-9.1 to 9-STABLE my /usr/src, I was used to csup, this tool was updating the src tree without removing it. How can I switch my /usr/src tree to stable/9 branch without removing old files? Cheers, David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 11:30:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A24B62 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-f45.google.com (mail-la0-f45.google.com [209.85.215.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F396A674 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id ep20so2521644lab.18 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 03:30:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=09BEyMNLL9Nkyb9GE4XpCBp6bD+aq1rmqDxF7FYJWHw=; b=h3Oy9GMdTUbUDWnGZ6yKYfe1V5CFx99R4HAXGUALtdwx5R8qyq07Y2YUNDpir/Nwgv g35QG2pKhhf9clqVTiVM8ACnAOZTvEqSoWOI2saQxhojxWbeQH65klrWa/d+Eu+xHitz wsubt0n/Hn6w0BKEql2BwgYrSPClQbcmT8H2OzAdOsPYXY4/1W/pk/eJR6MCg7X5pT3t q/U4yp6pkqig6NmArvp/SMGlu435jEpIGVexYlF4+L27icx8k11fvtalLeTbQ2LdBx9e mLsGoR69niNuFUqZicIdREjEhrKzso+R2Neqpi7eatznVeYVGlQf9q17YXatRRSbLTh/ kYGg== X-Received: by 10.112.102.9 with SMTP id fk9mr2040412lbb.100.1358422210023; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 03:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.130] (mau.donbass.com. [92.242.127.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z4sm615061lbn.17.2013.01.17.03.30.07 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 03:30:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F7E0B8.7080700@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:30:00 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Demelier Subject: Re: Change branch with svn References: <50F7BA96.1040001@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <50F7BA96.1040001@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:30:19 -0000 17.01.2013 10:47, David Demelier: > Hello folks, > > Just wanted to switch from RELEASE-9.1 to 9-STABLE my /usr/src, I was > used to csup, this tool was updating the src tree without removing it. > > How can I switch my /usr/src tree to stable/9 branch without removing > old files? # svn switch ^/stable/9 -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 12:52:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC83BBF for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (smtprelay05.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A984AF1 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [84.44.155.222] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay05.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Tvoxg-0000N4-7A; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:52:52 +0100 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:52:41 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: absurd I/O perf with ZFS: hangs on zfs->cv) Message-ID: <20130117135241.434f273a@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/0qhbqe.9JK+i+Gc+PyWLjzb"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 12:52:59 -0000 --Sig_/0qhbqe.9JK+i+Gc+PyWLjzb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eitan Adler wrote: > On 15 January 2013 23:57, Eitan Adler wrote: > > Running FreeBSD 9.1-Release, I am seeing some absurd hangs (10 minutes > > or more to open a file) with SIGINFO informing me that the process is > > stuck on zio->io_cv. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions for what I want to look at to tune > > this? This is on a newly bought laptop with large amounts of RAM and > > almost nothing else running. I don't think there are any laptops with "large amounts of RAM" as far as ZFS is concerned. > It is taking me 45 minutes to make 5 commits to git. Something is > wrong here but I have no idea what I should be looking at. Any ideas? Try sysutils/zfs-stats to get a rough idea of how ZFS is using the available memory. If you already followed tuning advice from the Internet without benchmarking it, try reverting it. In my experience some of the tunables that helped or at least didn't hurt with earlier ZFS versions make things significantly worse with ZFSv28 and later: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2011-March/010860.html Once you have gathered some more information it might make sense to ask again on freebsd-fs@. On a new system it's probably not an issue, but the recommendation is to keep around 20% of the pool free to keep the performance up. Fabian --Sig_/0qhbqe.9JK+i+Gc+PyWLjzb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlD39CIACgkQBYqIVf93VJ2XqQCeN+NmYc4sRkaUNY1hjM3ozcwx eoUAnj5v/C/WAYah/DSv/lYV3rwheDpI =Yz2f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/0qhbqe.9JK+i+Gc+PyWLjzb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 13:04:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383AC3C1 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5413BF2 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id r0HD7ksu066451; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:07:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:07:46 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201301171307.r0HD7ksu066451@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, tundra@tundraware.com Subject: Re: OT: What Might Break getbostbyname() ? In-Reply-To: <50F7783F.7020406@tundraware.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:04:27 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jan 16 22:08:13 2013 > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 22:04:15 -0600 > From: Tim Daneliuk > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: OT: What Might Break getbostbyname() ? > > This is not really a FreeBSD problem ... in fact, it's happening on > a Solaris 10 machine. But because the TCP stack and its userland > interface came from BSD, I am hoping some kind soul might have > an insight into what's going on ... > > The machine in question does DNS lookups fine via dig or nslookup. > I believe these connect directly to the DNS server(s) specified > in /etc/resolv.conf. > > However, any program that uses gethostbyname() - like ping - fails > and says it cannot resolve the name. > > I'm looking for hints here on why or how gethostbyname() and/or > the network stack could get clobbered so as to not be able to talk > to the DNS servers which I know are reachable via dig and nslookup. dig and nslookup use THEIR OWN resolver routines, =not= the 'standard library' routines. Something that fouls the library routines will not affect dig and nslookup. Given this is Solaris, check /etc/nis.switch (may not be the exactly correct name, but close -- I haven't used Solaris in a decade). check both the file content, and permissions. You may have to run truss on ping to see what it's getting wrong. 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Dean" , "questions@FreeBSD.org" , Michael Sierchio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:24:35 -0000 Polytropon writes: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:21:03 -0800, Michael Sierchio wrote: >> Top posting for brevity - the fact is, the code in your original >> example is wrong. There are reasons to complain about argument size >> mismatches, esp. in print functions that call (versions of) malloc. >> You should cast the time_t value explicitly, or use %d instead of %ld. > > This advice looks correct. If you use the source Luke, > you'll find the following (taken from a 8.2-STABLE/i386 > system source tree): > > /usr/src/sys/sys/types.h (line 253): > > typedef __time_t time_t; > > /usr/src/sys/i386/include/_types.h (line 97): > > typedef __int32_t __time_t; > > /usr/src/sys/i386/include/_types.h (line 55): > > typedef int __int32_t; > > So it boils down to (int), but %ld expects (long). This > is the exact content of the warning. You can either > case the (time_t) value to (long), or change %ld to %d > to avoid the warning. Even if the representations boil down to the same thing, the cast is still a good idea. You may *know* (for example) that time_t is really an int, but you don't know that it always will be. printf() (like other variadic functions) loses type information, so make *sure* you cast the type to what the format says it is, because the Usual Arithmetic Conversions cannot come in to save your bacon if (when) you're wrong. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 15:15:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3495F2EB for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:15:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-la0-f42.google.com (mail-la0-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B417570F for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f42.google.com with SMTP id fe20so2790517lab.29 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:15:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=A60jaZpkCyxMj403Ssu6y+fonjnx+RFKeogo2G8BO0E=; b=DljLJ643ZkkBsbF8VaTM+SHP4ATe5DZeOboOsCSxj04w6bmHitu58HsOcFMJIzqacS FnVdMP650cMU6PPV/oQ2Oa+LO36qwZn4XOmshxJc3JcQqMEZQOeMvEcfITjXJERFGiKv tjBMvGUdbhFgJfPLwg0HVpWfICqtcP13VaB8g= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=A60jaZpkCyxMj403Ssu6y+fonjnx+RFKeogo2G8BO0E=; b=aCQiWRPI87AwehK+UM47dkcHF7IQvusbocBX8EqQtClD16mDXnfiKIWp2ywSpRphpb XP8gq2BSzi236xreh8w3Y+CJniQSZtoOHDgtJOU5scquN1UnuKkB+/Hvf0CuVnjg1bHb P1M1K/E01IVNZpU9BTnudMemD1YVLfXShdUoLDzlKPOuRXW4T0xzlfeKFOTk3STwgVDF NAjNki4XXiYQU/KrXy9Pjolj0kI3AxW2gn3E2cKt0YWf86BzyWKX1TwBDHQWCkOq+czm DX9mlFKiiaa5mSELdRhYo0Hdd8ELP9edpASEF7rJvdVoFG0qfijne7dbqtdigkGM9BCa k9YA== X-Received: by 10.112.82.136 with SMTP id i8mr2327683lby.74.1358435700253; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:15:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.30.131 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:14:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130117135241.434f273a@fabiankeil.de> References: <20130117135241.434f273a@fabiankeil.de> From: Eitan Adler Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:14:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: absurd I/O perf with ZFS: hangs on zfs->cv) To: Fabian Keil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmhAS9NF+lhizS5YeBmBCbz88HtNKSQ9hup3YfGgbOvtesqOXcrc431UxegSLbNLp+xTdKf Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:15:02 -0000 On 17 January 2013 07:52, Fabian Keil wrote: > Eitan Adler wrote: > I don't think there are any laptops with "large amounts of RAM" > as far as ZFS is concerned. Haha okay: 8GB of RAM. >> It is taking me 45 minutes to make 5 commits to git. Something is >> wrong here but I have no idea what I should be looking at. Any ideas? > > Try sysutils/zfs-stats to get a rough idea of how ZFS is using > the available memory. Anything in particular I should be looking for? > If you already followed tuning advice from the Internet without > benchmarking it, try reverting it. I have done absolutely no tuning. Is there anything in particular I *should* tune? > Once you have gathered some more information it might make sense > to ask again on freebsd-fs@. Ack. > On a new system it's probably not an issue, but the recommendation > is to keep around 20% of the pool free to keep the performance up. Good to know. I will be careful here. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 15:21:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A348CF for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CC77BD for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.tundraware.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0HFKMmM002666 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:20:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from 66.175.245.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user tundra) by www.tundraware.com with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:20:22 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130117064920.GD42469@dan.emsphone.com> References: <50F7783F.7020406@tundraware.com> <20130117064920.GD42469@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:20:22 -0000 Subject: Re: OT: What Might Break getbostbyname() ? From: "Tim Daneliuk" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:20:22 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: r0HFKMmM002666 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:21:09 -0000 On Thu, January 17, 2013 6:49 am, Dan Nelson wrote: > First, check /etc/nsswitch.conf and verify that "dns" is listed on the > "hosts:" line. Next, try disabling nscd ("svcadm disable > name-service-cache") , and then running "truss ping www.google.com" (make > sure to reenable nscd when you're done debugging). You should see > syscalls > to open /etc/resolv.conf, read the contents, and then open a socket to > the > nameserver listed in that file. > Dan and Robert - Thanks for your replies. It seems that someone removed DNS from the hosts line in nsswitch.conf and this is what was breaking ordinarily userland resolver calls. WHY they did this is unclear to me. I appreciate you folks taking the time here... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 15:21:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466E48D0 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2DE7BE for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.tundraware.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0HFKRHf002837 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:20:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from 66.175.245.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user tundra) by www.tundraware.com with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:20:27 -0000 Message-ID: <71b5e95e34b45abfd7b1a32e3b05f27f.squirrel@www.tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <20130117064920.GD42469@dan.emsphone.com> References: <50F7783F.7020406@tundraware.com> <20130117064920.GD42469@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:20:27 -0000 Subject: Re: OT: What Might Break getbostbyname() ? From: "Tim Daneliuk" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:20:27 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: r0HFKRHf002837 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:21:09 -0000 On Thu, January 17, 2013 6:49 am, Dan Nelson wrote: > First, check /etc/nsswitch.conf and verify that "dns" is listed on the > "hosts:" line. Next, try disabling nscd ("svcadm disable > name-service-cache") , and then running "truss ping www.google.com" (make > sure to reenable nscd when you're done debugging). You should see > syscalls > to open /etc/resolv.conf, read the contents, and then open a socket to > the > nameserver listed in that file. > Dan and Robert - Thanks for your replies. It seems that someone removed DNS from the hosts line in nsswitch.conf and this is what was breaking ordinarily userland resolver calls. WHY they did this is unclear to me. I appreciate you folks taking the time here... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 17 15:21:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216848D3 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:21:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC81E7C0 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.tundraware.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0HFKaRZ003133 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:20:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from 66.175.245.1 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user tundra) by www.tundraware.com with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:20:36 -0000 Message-ID: <9cf5dc45751f0f400320b439656c83cc.squirrel@www.tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <20130117064920.GD42469@dan.emsphone.com> References: <50F7783F.7020406@tundraware.com> <20130117064920.GD42469@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:20:36 -0000 Subject: Re: OT: What Might Break getbostbyname() ? From: "Tim Daneliuk" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:20:36 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: r0HFKaRZ003133 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:21:12 -0000 On Thu, January 17, 2013 6:49 am, Dan Nelson wrote: > First, check /etc/nsswitch.conf and verify that "dns" is listed on the > "hosts:" line. Next, try disabling nscd ("svcadm disable > name-service-cache") , and then running "truss ping www.google.com" (make > sure to reenable nscd when you're done debugging). You should see > syscalls > to open /etc/resolv.conf, read the contents, and then open a socket to > the > nameserver listed in that file. > Dan and Robert - Thanks for your replies. It seems that someone removed DNS from the hosts line in nsswitch.conf and this is what was breaking ordinarily userland resolver calls. WHY they did this is unclear to me. I appreciate you folks taking the time here... 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[87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m20sm1665595bkw.4.2013.01.17.08.00.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:00:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:00:28 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Replacement for KGET from KDE3 Message-ID: <20130117160028.7dcd2b30@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:00:33 -0000 I'm looking for a replacement for kget from KDE3 which I use with Konqueror on easynews.com. As the site has download accounting and I have a slow dsl line I have hundreds of files queued-up - often for months. Ideally what I after is something similar - Browser integration - The ability to queue and reorder downloads with only one or a few downloading at once - doesn't lose the queue on crashes. - authentication, and ideally SSL, support I thought I'd be able to get something working with Firefox+flashgot, but aria dumps core, flashgot doesn't seem to do anything with steadflow, urlgfe isn't recognised by flashgot and wxdfast doesn't seen to be able to authenticate to easynews (any doesn't seem to have any queue support anyway). The last time I tried kget from KDE4 they'd removed the queue management and made it like Opera and Firefox's built-in download manager. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 01:25:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B91BA6 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from georgreilinger@yahoo.de) Received: from nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B3C1AB for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.49] by nm18.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.122] by tm2.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1031.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 803450.63338.bm@omp1031.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 57633 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.de; s=s1024; t=1358472303; bh=qr6R+MiwyFL4SO9pVzmUfe5VVfeURRuubT09cwW6S9M=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qH8vdcIuNgfrBMi01hXK5fxz2vpTiW74jfcB445/1BY9bUXMkNVsBr7Vxwbm80Ppxl9vyYKMPgqGjSIy3I07Voa2Shi7gOTeLnrbd4fNhcYhrCqtDzWEIKoq/BVjoXpxvQ2nuuFO44Eg0djTAcDISQxhCbl0ZO2txM0N4Wi+LGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.de; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MPe5bW2yxyRrJfkcobES87/0ZYy1uz6L0bClKHwId/hlKzJ0I999DmV6Z3yK8o1MO/SdpVucGZooizZXRvHy+P6Fv/xZFYuLs57EvrZ2hWjBQv8XpLEVw2N+Y+ojh3V305T9eKOwCUPuyURBH9/IFXZItGmJDQwzVmgTZfl1H2c=; X-YMail-OSG: xnavCfoVM1kR5ccG1CpWGudblXaOrLMyx_ss962I1pE1ff8 VsKUggh1Gxk12A_3OeqTtIsl.rrHN2nnTuoecCnjDJ.hJhUcjJlhCayNJamM QG0pA5gUmAe4FXDkFI8CL7jxRO7aNB_okzrNAHACVn2zTgbLEAOMGtYnY2O1 0.pJ9nLBEPBRvHglQK8zUsxy_7MnJ44vlGRYA0osXUCV9ZBhCqqKVGUw.GiT sRlyRDyr91SSzpq3Wsbv8BJtUYvBrXjKp8LSPXCgTcYgn42lr3gSzQrSW1hq Rxnhtr.oh87_qh8meyl1lDbQXF6rlVjUOhSxKdHSLJL7ySEJMBROVnXzz2C1 Tvexu.x86JWdXenVulPCGkx8upCb_tglMvXja.UCl0qPjzCnp5eiGAqQd_4i x4nhRyg9LIBvwVFbpfEqCwOEGbxdfz0lVAtywGu.BmY6_iZFSVwv7xNeSCqO 1aIBVb4RvEgdaoG9aXRSb41qtysypuhd25wcGQwW49cqgNAuaaYDPUnZ0rif GJ4F7HrQ9Sr786ETVbw-- Received: from [217.251.139.44] by web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 GMT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, SGkgZXZlcnlib2R5LAoKCk15IGlzc3VlIGlzIHRoZSBmb2xsb3dpbmc6CgpBcyBmYXIgYXMgSSBrbm93LCBGcmVlQlNEIGhhcyBjb21wbGV0ZWx5IGRyb3BwZWQgc3VwcG9ydCBmb3IgS0RFIDMuNS4gCgpXaGV0aGVyIGl0J3MgdGhlIHBvcnRzLCBvciB0aGUgcGtnX2FkZCBwcmVjb21waWxlZCBiaW5hcmllcy4gQW0gSSByaWdodCBpbiAKCmFzc3VtaW5nIHRoaXM_CgoKSSBhbSBjdXJyZW50bHkgcnVubmluZyBhIGxpdmUgdmVyc2lvbiBvZiBGcmVlQlNEIDguMiB3aXRoIEtERSA0LjguIFRoZSB0aGluZyAKCmgBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.130.494 Message-ID: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Georg Reilinger Subject: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Georg Reilinger List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:06 -0000 Hi everybody,=0A=0A=0AMy issue is the following:=0A=0AAs far as I know, Fre= eBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5. =0A=0AWhether it's the por= ts, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in =0A=0Aassuming this?= =0A=0A=0AI am currently running a live version of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8.= The thing =0A=0Ahere is, that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my system. For= example: it is =0A=0Aimpossible for me to have two open shells at the same= time. Once I exit a =0A=0Agiven shell, I can't open another one due to a l= ack of resources, even after having =0A=0Aturned off all the extra stuff - = plasma desktop, nepomuk...=0A=0AAs a consequence, I can see myself do two p= ossible things, to have a system =0A=0Arunning with KDE 3.5 once again:=0A= =0A1. Go back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the = =0A=0Aprecompiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version.=0AJudging = by the release announcements, this should be 7.1.=0A=0Ahttp://www.freebsd.o= rg/releases/7.1R/announce.html=0A=0AThis is something that I don't really f= eel like doing.=0A=0A2. To be honest, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would= like to keep it for =0Asome time to come. In other words, is there a way t= o keep 8.2 and still =0Ahave KDE 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone = ever tried to =0Ainstall a 7.1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on = an 8.2 system? =0AIs that be possible?=0A=0A=0AAny other solutions?=0A=0A= =0AMany thanks=0AGeorg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 01:37:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A194FE14 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4D4238 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.232] by nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 01:37:04 -0000 Received: from [217.146.188.163] by tm13.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 01:37:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp131.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 01:37:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1358473023; bh=Fnt6lNAtbuPlbebR5nZWLj2cVomfg0nMA9W7pweEzAs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=nFvePqAGiGsoMA2mFFAdmeFqLizIenENXyPZhCOjfsoOEPQwRGadMa0c6OJZ2b4crPOgSqE10clD6WEEKihfjMZPL3ocFWUxPV+DLoL/ri8rnN4BXwWShhnStZO/YdtPUxUkBj+GzCg+rdFenpqJjXiX6SdTwD+eft1RI8l4aTw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 698979.21726.bm@smtp131.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Ni3vS5sVM1mpmdOpkpRTNF7N47VNkXOptzRU_cv223NBYG4 0IgKrNVVvDzdM5CvtGOydMIKudXpSN8odtMLYtm0F1YFZmBFeKQMNEorkBWZ xgJTawM84Kn7gHGenPyCehkee45UWQYz.2lBGCaM96KYEuZdNdRxLDY0Nl9E aTTnnIy_hoe2ysNgqfJnAyL5qhFdGXL.b1.yVl3cjlX8vfJuAOxtRMRhWu64 ASrK0azbEOIET2RcLyvXI9MqIKrzGM6xAvqrFSCZQPz7.PDYb6mTJMD5BxN2 pSOAwFEcWtnFLPTU0EDy.fG92qSAMlGKTBBe5ZrMZZmSWBMUOo55pcM5g0DO _4h4mDydvV.Hpl66X4EbLZeJnCDWAq.J2yvjpR7XdcW381KKji5AhU6KPest NSNR3_c9ZcLP3V9iDjeolvtnGb_E1.XTXz5xy5olmFEWobQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.209.164 with login) by smtp131.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2013 17:37:03 -0800 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD References: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:37:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:37:13 -0000 Some decisions from upstream are a PITA. I'm from Linux, it's more up-to-date than FreeBSD. On Linux I switched from KDE 3 to GNOME 2, when KDE 4 was introduced and from GNOME 2 to Xfce, when GNOME 3 was introduced. There are forks of GNOME 2, but I guess there's no fork of KDE 3. Some users claim that it should be possible to set up KDE 4, that it become equal to KDE 3. I doubt that. Another issue are hard dependencies, such as the dependency to the buggy pulseaudio. You better get rid of KDE and start to accustom to another DE. 2 Cents, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 02:06:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930EB37A for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from georgreilinger@yahoo.de) Received: from nm16-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm16-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E5537D for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:06:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.231] by nm16.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 02:06:16 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.121] by tm12.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 02:06:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 02:06:15 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 899599.69296.bm@omp1030.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 74702 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jan 2013 02:06:15 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.de; s=s1024; t=1358474775; bh=vKv/1r5P6nVOzlrPDDXvcGfIvH/c6ZLkIgQ23mVi91o=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=L411flmSnAcch/rN1sxGIZNlKNYu/cLtLUHVaneFTxHuW2695UMawncjAv8F0SukfwZVygwV496a0t1/r/BbhuqGN+mPe2OfkZYJuT7uX4y5kvb8WphHyql5dnhn5GRszueBXwQnCUafXFBc+a5Apm528RARctfqdc9yrSh/FrE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.de; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uQNtNsHw4j1Pc4+w+Wwd6o94+G/qymZeqD9TPY7fDPMQHTpYew4FDAsQVVuUUhtbq/jNfidY9vfORJIouiXtKfBNNqdBhliv6AGE8P7EWqglZ8kD1pj6c0dRqUiELeF2y+jjXPyUaghr6tXu7q/tfSZhSJoaHvAfxmo9v1YdbSM=; X-YMail-OSG: 42phx60VM1mxMVIns2WhHkczzdsc8Xdv_gdy2mHy_oRuswQ vUFdHnxqhI0ZQxAYQ0bfp2UDEnYkre1VU4qLztCZZBE72MCvfA_Yh.4gF18X OyiOZWrfZQiVuS.r1EJ_npjVgslxmifkMyAifFUlfcPCUxQwwLih3SbmyOUp CTElIm4xmR4ykSE86c0IulCz1wunQ_a4NjQmjCQmFtCbz2Cg08I1_esrb0n_ Mr2OnhxgxQNjClvabV63eqCQwWKZ6uMqkXCHlbRhnsw9qZ1uDGaIut.rnw1. kwuIbdu5kdMtAPR63ftDP4vCgealq6qgoBHakdLDrTuZcaxyhb4Dowo.yi9J Ck9UgoUWfuKp0aUGWYrHVbiA0JyOinf0ROHtNY7H9osQjXiHDZ2pPsLGSuZ0 UDq48B3aeYjeGHIBQNahC9WuYn4ddL5CsvPUzSEYCd.t0sNNDhRbDOpx7Phs X8xY6O1_Ak_T_q6gB.diA9JDqmdqmftpSS2U0bObGsEvoLDgnavN3Zv1POvb RbdiE_N0HuM0Iz5djiNiLzqpeFKc- Received: from [217.251.139.44] by web133204.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:06:15 GMT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, CgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBWb246IFJhbGYgTWFyZG9yZiA8cmFsZi5tYXJkb3JmQHJvY2tldG1haWwuY29tPgpBbjogImZyZWVic2QtcXVlc3Rpb25zQGZyZWVic2Qub3JnIiA8ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc.IApHZXNlbmRldDogMjozNyBGcmVpdGFnLCAxOC5KYW51YXIgMjAxMwpCZXRyZWZmOiBSZTogRnJlZUJTRCA4LjIgd2l0aCBwcmUtYnVpbHQgS0RFIDMuNSBwYWNrYWdlIGZyb20gRnJlZUJTRCA3LjEgRFZEIAogCi0tIFNvbWUgZGVjaXNpb24BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.130.494 References: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1358474775.74349.YahooMailNeo@web133204.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:06:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Georg Reilinger Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD To: Ralf Mardorf In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Georg Reilinger List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:06:21 -0000 =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A Von: Ralf Mardorf =0AAn: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" =0AGesendet: 2:37 Freitag, 18.Januar 2013=0ABetreff: Re: Fr= eeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD =0A =0A-- Som= e decisions from upstream are a PITA. I'm from Linux, it's more up-to-date = than FreeBSD. On Linux I switched from KDE 3 to GNOME 2, when KDE 4 was int= roduced and from GNOME 2 to Xfce, when GNOME 3 was introduced.=0A=0AI have = tried both, GNOME and Xfce. Found both to be kinda yuckie. Not really feeli= ng at home here.=0A=0A=0A-- There are forks of GNOME 2, but I guess there's= no fork of KDE 3. =0A=0AActually there is. It is called Trinity: http://ww= w.trinitydesktop.org/ , but I don't know, if it is currently supported on F= reeBSD.=0AIf not, may be a reason, to become a porter!=0A=0A-- Some users c= laim that it should be possible to set up KDE 4, that it become equal to KD= E 3. I doubt that. =0A=0AI highly and holily second that. I have heard quit= e a few people complain about KDE 4's heavy hunger for resources.=0A=0A-- A= nother issue are hard dependencies, such as the dependency to the buggy pul= seaudio. You better get rid of KDE and start to accustom to another DE.=0A= =0AThis would be my very last option. As you can see, I am still working on= a go around here.=0A=0A=0A2 Cents,=0ARalf=0A______________________________= _________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lis= ts.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send an= y mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 02:11:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284CE439 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from nm4-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm4-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BF83C7 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:11:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.94.237.200] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 02:11:15 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.65] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 02:11:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 02:11:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1358475074; bh=+6c5JW/FWHs/u44BkPZOHJ+cmHORs5ZbwK3v41gzN88=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=h0k+MauvRYgE13SGLplGvK6QxQiTrgXsukRToiOz2Ty66+HyijqoLhC1ccdRp4HWujyQMp6+k50830q6VbLnNtcfT1tTw5gU4oCQtU4p1VCDC4tayuunSaMpBECm5z+YkKUst+m6xeOMh6Maf9qBCJTOnxjND+isMlzjU0C9H2E= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 817589.3774.bm@smtp102.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: _0K3BPcVM1nLSk4mOt_C.GUkKiFclj9bc1QPWhFnpzMVImv bxVmasKJsWr5w4txMVBKhgEzxrj91.nU.E5d.VeUuGFvw8zeht_Dx9osrqT8 jqEA1GSgRTPACM22fxHcRejAlIZ.aA83H2hKp66fI5HJ1_rL7Q_OtIQ._YdT h0aqwYIN1xYX6Xh7mnpLRklYu4NGe1yeb7XHBeJkyx3PKcX.Bm11xbvtgWem .2gW75.Uj8WbKv2PKJl2KJfZCLQylPtPEClL5YBdDM_86j5zw..t2HhJ20CY tLeMtXS_7uwAVzMN_ErdLpHJJC_SkfuSEgwb9ROkRr35hk5dBs4xT53wrvEZ eeT5p6yiJ6IL0JSUXl8.lBRa1RNWEkPmxcmT0n1TYnVkUnA4W5qWKj1zAyb4 uT2lKdDaFMqz1wP.bAoxF3XCTDHqkvbGxfiMjjucoBUcB4kBUSpH8RHOpvCA ai8yGYP1JrLy2XI8QbPZCgs1P1bNk1g-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: N82WFx6swBBjwcHWPFR2CGt6udzA8RPrA.xm0enFFXaK2g-- Received: from europa (mike.jeays@173.33.93.170 with login) by smtp102.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2013 18:11:14 -0800 PST Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:11:09 -0500 From: Mike Jeays To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD Message-ID: <20130117211109.458aeb2c@europa> In-Reply-To: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.24.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Georg Reilinger X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:11:22 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 +0000 (GMT) Georg Reilinger wrote: > Hi everybody, > > > My issue is the following: > > As far as I know, FreeBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5. > > Whether it's the ports, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in > > assuming this? > > > I am currently running a live version of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8. The thing > > here is, that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my system. For example: it is > > impossible for me to have two open shells at the same time. Once I exit a > > given shell, I can't open another one due to a lack of resources, even after having > > turned off all the extra stuff - plasma desktop, nepomuk... > > As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible things, to have a system > > running with KDE 3.5 once again: > > 1. Go back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the > > precompiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version. > Judging by the release announcements, this should be 7.1. > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/announce.html > > This is something that I don't really feel like doing. > > 2. To be honest, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep it for > some time to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 and still > have KDE 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever tried to > install a 7.1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an 8.2 system? > Is that be possible? > > > Any other solutions? > > > Many thanks > Georg > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I run xfce4 with FreeBSD 9.0 on an old Pentium 4 with 1.5 GB, and it works well. Resource requirements are much less than the latest KDE, and Unity is even more unworkable. KDE and Gnome have got very bloated in the last few years, IMHO and less intuitive. They seem to be going backwards. The multiple desktop feature is one of the main things that set Unix-style desktops way ahead of Windows, and now they have become harder to use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 02:20:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF708586 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm2-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm2-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C11403 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.52] by nm2.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 02:20:00 -0000 Received: from [217.146.188.172] by tm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 02:20:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp140.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 02:20:00 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1358475600; bh=NTPhwqfR8vljmmKnyPDPHSFIqFY9Z0a0lqgSir1WHD4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=1qUmb1uBorTQyPL4ZuVW1ntXCwTtjYUUq5r1+/wmAQ5SnHaRnXZGR2q8hEqHhpHAxSOaU1QS2H7OZ8Hx55QZHY7byxrILWLCsBXMqAn1uTv1p0WzXPArjvWmwNQhbyQia9m4L1zi+nZ3QdtRf9/5Z+YMvtRk5UQVs/gjgZeZGXw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 945156.64254.bm@smtp140.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: zzTkV6IVM1lL4FFqU9XmatfE8csHdTjYuQMUYYIV1I6RGj0 bkZqx2fx.kqkTjRdDaZPCeFUGL1mN.6G_JzzRg6e0GQeg0KDHBZZ6yO_oDIQ .TrEEz9PfdtI7mvf8UNKe0otdDRJpWgaoiQp_aYFuFOB0CIpeA8Oi9vqDLTc 3mGo8KgSDFnKwqE0MSzE2VJMzocC56blK9HHUgXmwmoMdk5bAuTBsfYHHOLy 7jB1Yv1i1KK2kBYJQN5EAdi8XEsCOZeJ0G0t7Xj_txYVGGpAKv7Bt.hrtSDq ZnjD31Cf5XBM8LyzWlaP2swsZ8OfXhIuoSGFbULJi_hGSyIxl0wzfIrjA09h G.z1Qz4N2W_9FBrEZL5LF66sJasyq4ZN48.PRDPEQGFbGISBQbX7bjNUj4gX yC2thIMqiNT64jwIPR3s6CKdemQey0gU1bCH4PUPU4yZwt7zQ8kf7X4ZVkLW ZMHyiB_VB.2599zL64ygpBxCKdUVQfBDX7IepF71WghNnFNFJmPTgGJUg6lz CN58Vog-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.209.164 with login) by smtp140.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2013 18:20:00 -0800 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD References: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <1358474775.74349.YahooMailNeo@web133204.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:20:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1358474775.74349.YahooMailNeo@web133204.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:20:08 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:06:15 +0100, Georg Reilinger wrote: > http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ Oops, I've forgotten that there is that fork. However, I suspect that KDE and GNOME forks will suffer from Qt and GTK dependencies, resp. the manpower (coders and user base, aka testers) to maintain the forks. A lot of people don't like that DEs do look like and behave similar as DEs for tablet PCs do, so in the near future, those forks might become more important. OTOH KDE 4 still is a classic DE and not one of those tablet PC like DEs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 02:30:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FA1741 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C750168C for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:29:55 -0800 Message-ID: <50F8B3A3.9080909@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:29:55 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: tar & compression Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2013 02:29:56.0100 (UTC) FILETIME=[B449AC40:01CDF523] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:30:00 -0000 The man page for tar command says there a 4 different compress types you can use, xz, bzip, bzip2 and gzip. Which one is the fastest and compresses the most? I am using -z option for gzip and it sure is slow. Hoping one of the other zip options are better. What do you guys use? Another question about tar is can I have tar create a compressed bkup of 2 files and a directory tree all in single tar command? 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Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:46:31 GMT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, SWYgaXQgZG9lc24ndCBuZWNlc3NhcmlseSBoYXZlIHRvIGJlIHRhciwgdGhlbiBJJ2QgcmVjb21tZW5kIHVzaW5nIDd6aXA6CgphcmNoaXZlcnMvcDd6aXAKCkl0IGhhcyBhbW9uZyB0aGUgYmVzdCBjb21wcmVzc2lvbiByYXRpb3MuCgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogVm9uOiBGYnNkOCA8ZmJzZDhAYTFwb3dlcnVzZXIuY29tPgpBbjogRnJlZUJTRCBxdWVzdGlvbnMgPHF1ZXN0aW9uc0BmcmVlYnNkLm9yZz4gCkdlc2VuZGV0OiAzOjI5IEZyZWl0YWcsIDE4LkphbnVhciAyMDEBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.130.494 References: <50F8B3A3.9080909@a1poweruser.com> Message-ID: <1358477191.42966.YahooMailNeo@web133201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:46:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Georg Reilinger Subject: Re: tar & compression To: Fbsd8 In-Reply-To: <50F8B3A3.9080909@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Georg Reilinger List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:46:35 -0000 If it doesn't necessarily have to be tar, then I'd recommend using 7zip:=0A= =0Aarchivers/p7zip=0A=0AIt has among the best compression ratios.=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A________________________________=0A Von: Fbsd8 =0AAn: FreeBSD questions =0AGesendet: 3:29 Freitag= , 18.Januar 2013=0ABetreff: tar & compression=0A =0AThe man page for tar co= mmand says there a 4 different compress types you can use, xz, bzip, bzip2 = and gzip.=0A=0AWhich one is the fastest and compresses the most?=0AI am usi= ng -z option for gzip and it sure is slow.=0AHoping one of the other zip op= tions are better.=0AWhat do you guys use?=0A=0AAnother question about tar i= s can I have tar create a compressed bkup=0Aof 2 files and a directory tree= all in single tar command?=0A_____________________________________________= __=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/= mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "free= bsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 02:53:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F68D96 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0997799 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:53:12 -0800 Message-ID: <50F8B917.1090401@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:53:11 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Georg Reilinger Subject: Re: tar & compression References: <50F8B3A3.9080909@a1poweruser.com> <1358477191.42966.YahooMailNeo@web133201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1358477191.42966.YahooMailNeo@web133201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2013 02:53:12.0284 (UTC) FILETIME=[F47A71C0:01CDF526] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:53:11 -0000 Georg Reilinger wrote: > If it doesn't necessarily have to be tar, then I'd recommend using 7zip: > > archivers/p7zip > > It has among the best compression ratios. > > > The man page for tar command says there a 4 different compress types you can use, xz, bzip, bzip2 and gzip. > > Which one is the fastest and compresses the most? > I am using -z option for gzip and it sure is slow. > Hoping one of the other zip options are better. > What do you guys use? > > Another question about tar is can I have tar create a compressed bkup > of 2 files and a directory tree all in single tar command? > Sorry,that will not work for me. Has to be something that comes as part of the base system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 02:59:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897CBF13 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm12.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm12.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C560F7D9 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.51] by nm12.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 02:59:40 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.66] by tm4.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 02:59:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp146.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 02:59:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1358477979; bh=XEuqfLfs1v/QOrS+4xbH/hHUe4vPjK+RT6eDWlxZ5sU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=fjrwYKLawJ7tIMzNK7CoKj6KzIcFrRAodU7OWCqxDA5usVegVB+E918QvDbVkd2NB2WT99lE6jI1sraXYFEIESfIGKKuZLGZRhc3Dd8oLQQQD4+N3TPxAS5pnXOZGkbqQuEU0BfZ1SrXKSAaDWcVPMw/i/5XIT3pFfnoL+/BrFg= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 581111.14962.bm@smtp146.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: jt5EmuMVM1m4D1lV4DcAh31GDVfw1.m3OHOSLrvBnbD12h1 B86IEO0A4POQny.PE8rsZDFl_.p.8rt.6pi7mqflxOQ3U9XL3oivUxTp8t2Q .mHTDCnHpvLDvORjPHP4mCaIvMaxSN6CjF8gsprRnZ8DMeFORM3AOGitolIw KIG9NFEajYyExhMTyLg6AexZVoKGqlL2K5Jih3iP1p4cHoFh3MS0I_dupwSa 5RinJx8yT3TwKbErZvFWBS.W2mzft8gxAdWbIF83opOOozF4hl.9pn.jfI8Q 2KCIHj1uw9Jys2a0pvRYRe7D2_wconAgDfsKfGX2NhHxN6Fzz0zK2snVOORc hlNk2gM_LRUsxAzfg4NAhOh_YBsOG0E9VkoNzxaxeEGtv94_rfqm4n24WZc7 GALBN76152OwVySBHiB1pOCqOO7.agxrro8qRkJXYMFublwKJ44C9uGvi2yG JQidWByNwQk6eCy_GnH6NWWL3E7V4Km_EiGsEGKMSOijTc2AAiHqt0Nkfuzn TuvtO66FhL5.ESIpUAMOFSqUPkg4h X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.209.164 with login) by smtp146.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2013 18:59:39 -0800 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: tar & compression References: <50F8B3A3.9080909@a1poweruser.com> <1358477191.42966.YahooMailNeo@web133201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:59:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1358477191.42966.YahooMailNeo@web133201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 02:59:42 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:46:31 +0100, Georg Reilinger wrote: > If it doesn't necessarily have to be tar, then I'd recommend using 7zip: > > archivers/p7zip > > It has among the best compression ratios. It doesn't archive permissions. I guess the best compression ratio to pack and unpack time ratio is tar.gz if it's needed to archive the permissions too. http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/443063 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 03:15:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAFE2A3 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:15:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@chthonixia.net) Received: from www5.pairlite.com (www5.pairlite.com [64.130.10.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD0D8F7 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:15:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from whisperer.chthonixia.net (unknown [184.152.30.105]) by www5.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C3B8F2E2BD for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:15:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:16:56 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: tar & compression Message-ID: <20130118031656.GA82737@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: <50F8B3A3.9080909@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50F8B3A3.9080909@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:15:36 -0000 On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 09:29:55PM -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: > The man page for tar command says there a 4 different compress types > you can use, xz, bzip, bzip2 and gzip. xz uses Lempel-Ziv-Markov chain algorithm. bzip2 uses Burrows-Wheeler transform. > Which one is the fastest and compresses the most? Sounds like a case of fast or cheap: choose one. Or is it fast or expensive? Or maybe it's all just bragging. OTOH, apropos compression may be instructive: 7z (and related) > I am using -z option for gzip and it sure is slow. > Hoping one of the other zip options are better. > What do you guys use? Used to use bzip2 and tar. Nowadays I just place files on a big disk that only runs when I backup my bits. > Another question about tar is can I have tar create a compressed bkup > of 2 files and a directory tree all in single tar command? For directories, I've used this: tar -cf - -C srcdir . | tar xpf - -C destdir The tar man page has this: tar -czf file.tar.gz source.c source.h Since anything is a file, it seems to me it would work on a directory with this: tar -czf file.tar.gz source.c source.h /path/to/directory I also note that (since you've mentioned mtree) the man page on tar provides an example on mtree. Could this be applied to your needs? Best regards, Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 03:18:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F80B469 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:18:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@chthonixia.net) Received: from www5.pairlite.com (www5.pairlite.com [64.130.10.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8CB915 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:18:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from whisperer.chthonixia.net (unknown [184.152.30.105]) by www5.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6149B2E2D1 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:18:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:19:48 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: tar & compression Message-ID: <20130118031948.GB82737@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: <50F8B3A3.9080909@a1poweruser.com> <1358477191.42966.YahooMailNeo@web133201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:18:21 -0000 On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 03:59:39AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > It doesn't archive permissions. Which is why, if it is used, one *must* (or *should*) use tar. Best, Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 03:25:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1C55AE for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xyne@archlinux.ca) Received: from oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com [50.87.16.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D8A2957 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22433 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jan 2013 03:25:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box539.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.139) by oproxy12.bluehost.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2013 03:25:15 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=archlinux.ca; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=GaXkCIeBrpkVy2sqyQirO924YGG0HxiTw1cT1mG43QY=; b=nbziYKtcSh+dvgUGczmXslnjuMsJUU1p9qKfIF9V6xkLkir24Wi/KQVL0SbJTxR17tsyJACtjnDfOdo2XG+kNzxSEGQWCvehPWYnZ3NMLeRQHHNLlgbRFfNb5TOoL+5g; Received: from [83.154.192.247] (port=35750 helo=localhost.localdomain) by box539.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Tw2Zv-0005EY-5y; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:25:15 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:25:08 +0000 From: Xyne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn-export Re: svn bdb checkout? Message-ID: <20130118032508.445fa43b@archlinux.ca> In-Reply-To: <20130117045431.GB5392@external.screwed.box> References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> <50F704CE.3010904@gmail.com> <20130116200754.GD8524@external.screwed.box> <50F70C60.4000108@FreeBSD.org> <20130116205533.GE8524@external.screwed.box> <20130117045431.GB5392@external.screwed.box> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {4243:box539.bluehost.com:archlinu:archlinux.ca} {sentby:smtp auth 83.154.192.247 authed with xyne@archlinux.ca} Cc: Peter Vereshagin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:25:37 -0000 Peter Vereshagin wrote: >I believe 'amd64' is the common architecture these days and 'perl malloc' is the >feature needed for profiling and/or leaks detection. > >Good news is that such a stuff can be redone with forks instead of threads but >it should take me the time amount I'm not supposed to have of the any early. > >By itself perl threading has a fabulously bad luck history, recently >criticized for instance at: > > https://speakerdeck.com/stevan_little/perl-is-not-dead-it-is-a-dead-end > >Thank you. Hi, I'm the author of svn-export. I haven't really touched the code since I wrote it in 2009 and back then I tended to write most things in noobish Perl. Although it should not be difficult to replace threading with forking (and I agree that Perl threading is generally to be avoided), I think I would rather just rewrite it cleanly in Python. Among other things it will simplify argument parsing and subprocess invocation via standard library functions. This would be in Python 3 but I could try to restrict it to be compatible with Python 2 if necessary. Would that be better than patching/porting the current Perl version? If so then I will put it on my todo list, but I am unlikely to have any time in the coming weeks to work on it. Incidentally, when looking at the code now I noticed that there were some SVN options missing. I have added those in today's release. Regards, Xyne p.s. I have not subscribed to this list, so please keep me in CC if you would like me to reply (in case this isn't done automatically). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 03:32:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C4A682 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ea0-f181.google.com (mail-ea0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DB0981 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f181.google.com with SMTP id i13so337253eaa.12 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:32:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=asMd6hnhDcvNf8P4A/RQLHbD/tMHsgFU3B5ynqJCge0=; b=BWHRZdpHxN+J00ijsW/90b70d5B5FB/yZ+THiKsM14RervW44qXpe2G4SW+s+98JRh sYQ4e7O3fAa9C1IdnFwAfPwwk07qTdhe6AIY4zd7EtAOsx6u2/ZK9NR0kHqj/Qw0Zy7f zyYTWrcufJy6MG4qs1judVAnZShLg/d21OEAT9ehCqk7ZtWi6lCs6wRouV1Gn7kTZtpz zTf/cjEYOUZCThnlkDxQpRb1MgjdM0CyRMJmxw/ihgj4sAdY64AfkF+jebOWJUhAz79Z o70lBM3UStSGVH+MX+ZHBpazkHH3V8pLGYl74Mto/m7mD2WWGQb8ty29ssYkg4T9BUWG iUEA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.14.194.199 with SMTP id m47mr21352923een.11.1358479521494; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:25:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.124.79 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:25:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:25:21 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Error upgrading Chromium From: Kurt Buff To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:32:58 -0000 Just updated from 8.3 to FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3, and am reinstalling ports. Chromium is giving me two errors and bombing out. The errors are: media/audio/pulst/pulse_output.cc:89L28: error: use of undeclared identifier 'kChannelOrderings'; did you mean 'ChannelOrder'? int channel_position = kChannelOrderings[channel_layout][channel]; ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ChannelOrder ./media/base/channel/_layout.h:121:18: note: 'ChannelOrder' declared here MEDIA_EXPORT int ChannelOrder(ChannelLayout layout, Channels, channel); ^ media/audio/pulse_output.cc:89:45: error: type 'int (media::ChannelLayout, media::Channels)' does not provide a subscript operator int channel_position = kChannelOrderings[channel_layout][channel]; 2 errors generated. gmake: *** [out/Release/obj.target/media/media/audio/pulse/pulse_output.0] Error 1 I've googled trying to see what if anyting this might be, and see nothing... Anyone have thoughts on this? Thanks, Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 03:58:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA28826 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:58:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A51A1A for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-45-17.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.45.17]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DB3276EE; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:58:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0I3wGt2001983; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:58:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:58:16 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Lowell Gilbert Subject: Re: time_t definition Message-Id: <20130118045816.a0209802.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <44622vx4ys.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <50F5A189.7000701@speakeasy.org> <20130116120015.3b8d0db4@mr129166> <50F6EDFB.70501@speakeasy.org> <20130117011721.69799ef6.freebsd@edvax.de> <44622vx4ys.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Thomas D. Dean" , "questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:58:22 -0000 On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:24:27 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Polytropon writes: > > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:21:03 -0800, Michael Sierchio wrote: > >> Top posting for brevity - the fact is, the code in your original > >> example is wrong. There are reasons to complain about argument size > >> mismatches, esp. in print functions that call (versions of) malloc. > >> You should cast the time_t value explicitly, or use %d instead of %ld. > > > > This advice looks correct. If you use the source Luke, > > you'll find the following (taken from a 8.2-STABLE/i386 > > system source tree): > > > > /usr/src/sys/sys/types.h (line 253): > > > > typedef __time_t time_t; > > > > /usr/src/sys/i386/include/_types.h (line 97): > > > > typedef __int32_t __time_t; > > > > /usr/src/sys/i386/include/_types.h (line 55): > > > > typedef int __int32_t; > > > > So it boils down to (int), but %ld expects (long). This > > is the exact content of the warning. You can either > > case the (time_t) value to (long), or change %ld to %d > > to avoid the warning. > > Even if the representations boil down to the same thing, the cast is > still a good idea. You may *know* (for example) that time_t is really an > int, but you don't know that it always will be. That's fully correct. The same way as input data should be validated (instead of blindly trusted), types that are not "the simple and obvious ones" can explicitely be cast into the required form. The -W options for cc can help here. > printf() (like other > variadic functions) loses type information, so make *sure* you cast the > type to what the format says it is, because the Usual Arithmetic > Conversions cannot come in to save your bacon if (when) you're wrong. Relying on what one knows about one specific architecture should not be transitioned to "everywhere". This idea makes code portable. Especially the system's types that do not "sound like" what one usually associates to the format descriptors, e. g. %d is for (int), %ld is for (long), %c is for (char), should be cast into the respective format-related type if the variable accessed is of some "obscure" (time_t), (size_t) or any other "non-obvious" type. And if you're "accidentally" casting (int) to (int) - no problem, bacon saved. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 04:24:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549CE14E for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB0EB06 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-45-17.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.45.17]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121F93DE72; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:24:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0I4Ocf0002061; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:24:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:24:38 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Georg Reilinger Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD Message-Id: <20130118052438.ddc5b4dd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:24:43 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 +0000 (GMT), Georg Reilinger wrote: > As far as I know, FreeBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5. As for other desktop environments, yes. > Whether it's the ports, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in > assuming this? I think KDE 3 is still in ports, but will be scheduled for removal, as KDE 4 is the place where development takes place, and there seems to be no active development on KDE 3 that can be built (!) on FreeBSD due to lack of contribution. > I am currently running a live version of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8. May I ask which live system this is? > The thing > here is, that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my system. For example: it is > impossible for me to have two open shells at the same time. Once I exit a > given shell, I can't open another one due to a lack of resources, even after having > turned off all the extra stuff - plasma desktop, nepomuk... Excuse me... you're joking, right? I assume you have a plentycore processor with Gigs of RAM, and already two shells show a problem? That sounds totally wrong. When you play a music file and move the window, do you get skipping audio, too? Just scary... > As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible things, to have a system > running with KDE 3.5 once again: > > 1. Go back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the > precompiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version. > Judging by the release announcements, this should be 7.1. Yes, this will work. But note that you are running an OS that has been gone out of support, so you probably won't be able to install "newer" software using ports or packages. However, you can use the system "as is", and even use ports as long as the distfiles are still kept available online. > 2. To be honest, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep it for > some time to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 and still > have KDE 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever tried to > install a 7.1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an 8.2 system? > Is that be possible? That should be possible if you install the required compat7x port on the system. Keep an eye on dependencies and make sure you won't be shooting your feet. A good start would be to install the KDE stuff on a "clean" system (right after compat7x) so there won't be much confusion. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 04:32:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0D83D9 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F61FB49 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0I4W8Us092566; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:32:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0I4W85J092563; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:32:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:32:08 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Xyne Subject: Re: svn-export Re: svn bdb checkout? In-Reply-To: <20130118032508.445fa43b@archlinux.ca> Message-ID: References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> <50F704CE.3010904@gmail.com> <20130116200754.GD8524@external.screwed.box> <50F70C60.4000108@FreeBSD.org> <20130116205533.GE8524@external.screwed.box> <20130117045431.GB5392@external.screwed.box> <20130118032508.445fa43b@archlinux.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:32:08 -0700 (MST) Cc: Peter Vereshagin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:32:13 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013, Xyne wrote: > I'm the author of svn-export. I haven't really touched the code since I wrote > it in 2009 and back then I tended to write most things in noobish Perl. > Although it should not be difficult to replace threading with forking (and I > agree that Perl threading is generally to be avoided), I think I would rather > just rewrite it cleanly in Python. Among other things it will simplify argument > parsing and subprocess invocation via standard library functions. > > This would be in Python 3 but I could try to restrict it to be compatible with > Python 2 if necessary. > > Would that be better than patching/porting the current Perl version? If so then > I will put it on my todo list, but I am unlikely to have any time in the coming > weeks to work on it. A working version in any language would be great. A better version in Python would be nice, too, but it's the working part that's important. > Incidentally, when looking at the code now I noticed that there were some SVN > options missing. I have added those in today's release. > > Regards, > Xyne > > p.s. I have not subscribed to this list, so please keep me in CC if you would > like me to reply (in case this isn't done automatically). It's standard procedure for the FreeBSD lists. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 04:46:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A853854C for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomdean@speakeasy.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E39C02 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B0BA72DD7 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 23:46:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24188 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2013 04:46:16 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 23020, pid: 10723, t: 0.4534s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13495 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.7]) (tomdean@[24.113.104.91]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 Jan 2013 04:46:16 -0000 Message-ID: <50F8D3A1.6090104@speakeasy.org> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:46:25 -0800 From: "Thomas D. Dean" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: time_t definition References: <50F5A189.7000701@speakeasy.org> <20130116120015.3b8d0db4@mr129166> <50F6EDFB.70501@speakeasy.org> <20130117011721.69799ef6.freebsd@edvax.de> <44622vx4ys.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44622vx4ys.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail8.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=8.0 tests=RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:46:24 -0000 On 01/17/13 06:24, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > A lot of discussion about what I can do other than understand why gcc does not keep track of the basic typedef. Mayhe the question is beyond this list. Thanks for the replies. Tom Dean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 04:47:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A27C5E6 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:47:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net [88.44.63.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06797C17 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.59]) by smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:46:22 +0100 Received: from freebsd ([92.224.209.164]) by out.alice-dsl.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:46:06 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:46:06 +0100 To: "FreeBSD quest" Subject: Dependencies after port tree update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (FreeBSD) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2013 04:46:06.0262 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA157560:01CDF536] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:47:31 -0000 Hi :) I had to do a "portsnap fetch update" to compile icedtea-web and run into a dependency hell. Most apps can't be launched anymore. When I deinstall, recompile the new versions and install them, I have tons of dependencies for each app. Is there a way to automatically recompile all broken apps and dependencies? If needed I could restore from a dump backup and continue with repeating the "portsnap fetch update" or what ever else, but I would prefer to fix the install. Regards, Ralf -- FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 04:50:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F856BE for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C86CC3E for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-45-17.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.45.17]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F133DE1E; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:50:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0I4opoR002152; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:50:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:50:51 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Ralf Mardorf" Subject: Re: Dependencies after port tree update Message-Id: <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD quest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:50:49 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:46:06 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Is there a way to automatically recompile all broken apps and dependencies? Yes, using a port management tool such as portmaster should be able to resolve all those problems automatically, usually by explicitely requesting the "compile everything" (update all ports) action. See the EXAMPLES section of "man portmaster" for how to do this. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 05:03:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477E4928 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:03:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F2DD11 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:03:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-45-17.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.45.17]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638BC3DEB6; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 06:03:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0I53dqG002186; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 06:03:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 06:03:39 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Thomas D. Dean" Subject: Re: time_t definition Message-Id: <20130118060339.7b12ad34.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <50F8D3A1.6090104@speakeasy.org> References: <50F5A189.7000701@speakeasy.org> <20130116120015.3b8d0db4@mr129166> <50F6EDFB.70501@speakeasy.org> <20130117011721.69799ef6.freebsd@edvax.de> <44622vx4ys.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <50F8D3A1.6090104@speakeasy.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:03:39 -0000 On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:46:25 -0800, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > A lot of discussion about what I can do other than understand why gcc > does not keep track of the basic typedef. As explained, gcc issues a valid (!) warning because there was a type mismatch: You tried to printf() a (long) value with %ld, but a (int) value (requiring %d) was supplied to the function. It's not gcc's job to advice the programmer on what he should do. You _intendedly_ write something, and the compiler treats your words as truth. If you formulate something wrong, the compiler will complain, and that's okay. Warnings are a good means to deal with such "minor errors". > Mayhe the question is beyond this list. Allow me to repeat, just to be sure I haven't missed an important point: gcc47 -O2 -pipe -I../../include -std=gnu99 -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -Wno-pointer-sign -c data-collection.c data-collection.c: In function 'main': data-collection.c:214:4: error: format '%ld' expects argument of type 'long int', but argument 3 has type 'time_t' [-Werror=format] data-collection.c:234:4: error: format '%ld' expects argument of type 'long int', but argument 3 has type 'time_t' [-Werror=format] cc1: all warnings being treated as errors *** [data-collection.o] Error code 1 The compiler option -Werror=format informs you: format '%ld' expects argument of type 'long int', but argument 3 has type 'time_t' That matches the source: gettimeofday(&spi_stop, &tz); / * line 211 */ printf("Loop %d, SPI %ld %ld\n", loop, spi_stop.tv_sec, spi_stop.tv_usec); gettimeofday(&disk_stop, &tz); /* line 231 */ printf("Loop %d, Disk %ld %ld\n", loop, disk_stop.tv_sec, disk_stop.tv_usec); disk_stop.tv_sec and disk_stop.tv_usec are (timt_t). You've properly included the include files for time_t variables. There are "recursive typedefs" as follows: /usr/src/sys/sys/types.h (line 253): typedef __time_t time_t; /usr/src/sys/i386/include/_types.h (line 97): typedef __int32_t __time_t; /usr/src/sys/i386/include/_types.h (line 55): typedef int __int32_t; In the end, you have this "type chain": int -> __int32_t --> __time_t -> time_t Or in the reverse order: time_t -> __time_t -> __int32_t -> int So _at least here_ (!), (time_t) is equivalent to (int). Repeating: In your format string, you request a position for a (long) argument, but gcc encounters an (int) value instead and validly issues the proper warning. So to speak, you're "doing something wrong here". You can avoid the problem by typecasting the (time_t) values to (long): printf("Loop %d, SPI %ld %ld\n", loop, (long)spi_stop.tv_sec, (long)spi_stop.tv_usec); Or you can change the format parameter to %d: printf("Loop %d, SPI %d %d\n", loop, spi_stop.tv_sec, spi_stop.tv_usec); However, the "most clean" solution is to combine both methods: Cast the (time_t) values to (int) _and_ use the %d placeholder: printf("Loop %d, SPI %d %d\n", loop, (int)spi_stop.tv_sec, (int)spi_stop.tv_usec); The reason is simple: You should not blindly _rely_ on the assumtion that (time_t) which you know is "some integer type" is _exactly_ (int) -- it doesn't neccessarily have to be. Similarly, you shouldn't assume that it's (long) either. I hope this verbose explanation has been easy to understand. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 08:10:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5641EA for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E8E354 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f54.google.com with SMTP id je9so1799541bkc.41 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:10:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=M0h5xwz4Lq/fT7849z9zzNutmCr36CDrMG+fIocXijs=; b=Q0S9XjmnYJFcIEpZRVgvlarsf9/JD37d8DFMXQhOjGvuVsNNU3DrTAnQ6oLAOrdOF+ yKarosNy+CqAI2VTcn5uImvfbUGpBjmHhFpQSJhrP9T5gLYk5H7zBXgS5UWfY8i/m99R BTXs+DcNSJ+gXL2PPKQXGDKlKTXSyYWYmHuXfpfcfnUBWrF0bNP5B/zwO1Ob7WNq5QGA TbKZKUTijsm4KKjekZPC1oXSgzAiHc1wGRiG5wEibB2KYecoKIAis35EvqAkOXzTdBS5 gIFGVa2kOMlnXkaiaQ1BSxr/NtOTPhb+d9R0xTKO3DXRBttGE1khQGUBQnJQEJPs3BNG 6dag== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.12.220 with SMTP id y28mr2356405bky.112.1358496618969; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:10:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.75.211 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:10:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:10:18 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE w/ SanDisk ImageMate S11202 From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:10:26 -0000 Hi, I have a PCI Express card with VIA VL800 chipset which seems to work OK with a Seagate drive, so I presume the interface is working. If I boot with a SanDisk ImageMate S11202 plugged into the USB 3.0 card, the display shows messages about the SanDisk device, appears to properly identify it, and with like 'querying ...' slots on the card reader, which all fail - (there are no cards in the reader). Then the machine sails into outerspace, kind of just sits there until (perhaps) the end of time, or until I kill the power. It never gets the network interface up, so no ssh. It would be great to be able to paste the log here but when I reboot there is nothing about the activity in the log, it's like the entire boot process never happened. Anyone have any experience with this card reader? I appreciate any suggestions or tips. Below is pertinent system information. Thank you, # uname -a FreeBSD kamira.waitman.net 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #1 r245537: Thu Jan 17 22:10:56 PST 2013 root@kamira.waitman.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BURPLEX amd64 kernel built with: device ahci # AHCI-compatible SATA controllers device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device xhci # XHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 3.0) pciconf output: xhci0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x0c0330 card=0x34321106 chip=0x34321106 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA Technologies, Inc.' class = serial bus subclass = USB interesting log entries: Jan 17 23:10:48 kamira kernel: usbus0: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: ugen0.3: at usbus0 Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: umass1: on usbus0 Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: da1 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: da1: 400.000MB/s transfers Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: da1: 2861588MB (732566645 4096 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 45600C) -- Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 09:01:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E154464F for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8B67C0 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (chomsky.torservers.net [77.247.181.162]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B5DE5ECC for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:01:03 +0400 (MSK) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:00:47 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn-export Re: svn bdb checkout? Message-ID: <20130118090046.GA27638@external.screwed.box> References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> <50F704CE.3010904@gmail.com> <20130116200754.GD8524@external.screwed.box> <50F70C60.4000108@FreeBSD.org> <20130116205533.GE8524@external.screwed.box> <20130117045431.GB5392@external.screwed.box> <20130118032508.445fa43b@archlinux.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:01:14 -0000 Hello. 2013/01/17 21:32:08 -0700 Warren Block => To Xyne : WB> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013, Xyne wrote: WB> WB> > I'm the author of svn-export. I haven't really touched the code since I wrote WB> > it in 2009 and back then I tended to write most things in noobish Perl. I shouldn't name your 2009 Perl that bad. ;-) WB> > Although it should not be difficult to replace threading with forking (and I WB> > agree that Perl threading is generally to be avoided), I think I would rather WB> > just rewrite it cleanly in Python. Among other things it will simplify argument WB> > parsing and subprocess invocation via standard library functions. No objection. As a bonus it will run on fork()less ms-windows. WB> > This would be in Python 3 but I could try to restrict it to be compatible with WB> > Python 2 if necessary. I have no idea if it is. I use python only as a build dependency yet and for my pretty old freebsd the versions are: python26-2.6.7_3 python27-2.7.3 WB> > Would that be better than patching/porting the current Perl version? If so then WB> > I will put it on my todo list, but I am unlikely to have any time in the coming WB> > weeks to work on it. I don't know which one is best. Some proposals I will draft later believing those are language-independent. I know svn has some perl bindings I think just for the scripts like 'svn-export' I wish it used. Does svn have ones for python also? WB> A working version in any language would be great. A better version in WB> Python would be nice, too, but it's the working part that's important. WB> WB> > Incidentally, when looking at the code now I noticed that there were some SVN WB> > options missing. I have added those in today's release. Wow. ;-) WB> > p.s. I have not subscribed to this list, so please keep me in CC if you would WB> > like me to reply (in case this isn't done automatically). WB> WB> It's standard procedure for the FreeBSD lists. Good I know this, too. Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: 1754B9C1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 10:28:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96199AD9 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:28:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay06.ispgateway.de (smtprelay06.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2F6D60 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [78.35.163.76] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay06.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Tw9BD-00009a-IZ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:28:11 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:20:10 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: Eitan Adler Subject: Re: absurd I/O perf with ZFS: hangs on zfs->cv) Message-ID: <20130118112010.43ad3edb@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20130117135241.434f273a@fabiankeil.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/KOxxjH47ShGJSOjGAqyLVRE"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:28:19 -0000 --Sig_/KOxxjH47ShGJSOjGAqyLVRE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eitan Adler wrote: > On 17 January 2013 07:52, Fabian Keil wrot= e: > > Eitan Adler wrote: > > I don't think there are any laptops with "large amounts of RAM" > > as far as ZFS is concerned. >=20 > Haha okay: 8GB of RAM. >=20 > >> It is taking me 45 minutes to make 5 commits to git. Something is > >> wrong here but I have no idea what I should be looking at. Any ideas? > > > > Try sysutils/zfs-stats to get a rough idea of how ZFS is using > > the available memory. >=20 > Anything in particular I should be looking for? I mainly look at the "ARC Summary" and the "ARC Efficiency" sections but I suppose all the information is useful in some situations. =20 > > If you already followed tuning advice from the Internet without > > benchmarking it, try reverting it. >=20 > I have done absolutely no tuning. Is there anything in particular I > *should* tune? A common recommendation is to disable atime for all datasets where it isn't needed as it can cause lots of unnecessary write operations. With 8 GB of RAM ZFS enables prefetching by default and I assume for the git use case it's not too useful and could hurt performance by amplifying read operations. The "Data Prefetch Efficiency" is shown by zfs-stats and if it doesn't look too impressive you might want to disable prefetching to see if it helps. If your repository isn't fresh, you could also try "git gc". My impression is that the automatic doesn't trigger frequently enough for larger repositories like /usr/src. Fabian --Sig_/KOxxjH47ShGJSOjGAqyLVRE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlD5Id0ACgkQBYqIVf93VJ1ELwCfVP+RUz5XjQauFAHqo4koPBBd nSMAoIAzDy4fhg4YoKEz1ptD4E+nUnya =HDOq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/KOxxjH47ShGJSOjGAqyLVRE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 12:40:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12627206 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A865D634 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:40:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0ICeFkb022511; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:40:16 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <50F942AF.9070606@qeng-ho.org> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:40:15 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: tar & compression References: <50F8B3A3.9080909@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <50F8B3A3.9080909@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:40:26 -0000 On 01/18/13 02:29, Fbsd8 wrote: > The man page for tar command says there a 4 different compress types you > can use, xz, bzip, bzip2 and gzip. bzip and bzip2 are synonyms I believe. > Which one is the fastest and compresses the most? The general rule for compression is that fast and high compression are opposite ends of the same axis. > I am using -z option for gzip and it sure is slow. You can use --options gzip:N or --options xz:N where N is 0-9 to control the compression level for gzip or xz compression. 0 is the quickest, but least compressing, 9 slowest and most. You'd need to find the trade off that works best for you. > Hoping one of the other zip options are better. > What do you guys use? Historically gzip, these days bz2, but that's more habit than any scientifically based decision. Compression depends on the data anyway, so the only truly correct answer is "whatever works best for you". > Another question about tar is can I have tar create a compressed bkup > of 2 files and a directory tree all in single tar command? tar -cjf tarfile path/to/file1 path/to/file2 path/to/tree/root or if you don't want to keep path prefixes for the files or tree tar -cjf tarfile -C file1dir file1 -C file2dir file2 -C dirtree . Note the '.' at the end of that command. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 14:22:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7A1CA1 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (smtp-int-m.obspm.fr [145.238.187.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D91FA89 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pcjas.obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 07/2009) with ESMTP id r0IEJOVW032039 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:19:25 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:19:24 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Account only on the console Message-ID: <20130118141924.GA8029@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Miltered: at smtp-int-m.obspm.fr with ID 50F959EC.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 50F959EC.000/145.238.184.233/pcjas.obspm.fr/pcjas.obspm.fr/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:22:17 -0000 Hi all, I would like to known how I can create a root-account (uid=0, login not=root) but I want this account accessible only on the console. Not from ssh but event not from su (other than root). The purpose is to put some trivial password for this account, because those server run on vmware and through RDP + Vsphere I got some very very strange keyboard (half qwerty, half azerty) and it's impossible to put some normal password. Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH DIO bâtiment 15 Observatoire de Paris 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26/06 86 69 95 71 xmpp: jas@obspm.fr Heure local/Local time: ven 18 jan 2013 15:16:22 CET From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 14:31:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C091CD for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B495B19 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-45-17.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.45.17]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4873CCBD; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:31:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0IEVgAq004858; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:31:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:31:42 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Albert Shih Subject: Re: Account only on the console Message-Id: <20130118153142.7fca3738.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130118141924.GA8029@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20130118141924.GA8029@pcjas.obspm.fr> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:31:41 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:19:24 +0100, Albert Shih wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to known how I can create a root-account (uid=0, login not=root) > but I want this account accessible only on the console. Not from ssh but > event not from su (other than root). Add a new account with UID 0 (comparable to "toor"). You can do this interactively with the "adduser" command. To prevent SSH login, use the "DenyUsers" keyword in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. Also make sure to put this account name into /etc/ftpusers in case you have FTP open. Regarding su, everyone who is in the "wheel" group _and_ knows the new account's password will be able to su; make sure the password is _not_ known to them. Users outside of "wheel" cannot su anyway. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 14:55:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8699B4 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19C8DD5 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:55:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0IEtk0D096539; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:55:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0IEtkuR096536; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:55:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:55:46 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: Dependencies after port tree update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:55:46 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD quest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:55:50 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I had to do a "portsnap fetch update" to compile icedtea-web and run into a > dependency hell. Most apps can't be launched anymore. When I deinstall, > recompile the new versions and install them, I have tons of dependencies for > each app. portsnap fetch update just updates the ports tree. It's when you build new ports or update old ones that problems can arise. A short article on port upgrading: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html > Is there a way to automatically recompile all broken apps and dependencies? Depends on what you mean by broken, but portmaster and portupgrade are both made to deal with that. pkg_libchk from sysutils/bsdadminscripts is very useful for finding ports that still depend on old, missing libraries and need to be rebuilt. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 15:26:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA21C993 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from georgreilinger@yahoo.de) Received: from nm6-vm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm6-vm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C8CF99 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.105.247] by nm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 15:26:13 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.240] by tm19.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 15:26:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 15:26:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 209428.15461.bm@omp1005.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 52571 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jan 2013 15:26:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.de; s=s1024; t=1358522773; bh=E2QmSaEumC6fUQaAEmp0OasX4iZ3EME/cK7ZRCphegk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cuUMwvtj6KcJ94SUeLFvRLI8tl7Y5uadOYH4EfkwkVRJqSnwbTv/ruE8Vnx5t2Eq9n/LUPBFFuMdOiPvs1Ara1C4ss0SBOuEtwkxplC8RxrwyKP7YjRNBrBKVIOFM+gG4K1D06fF187hFpMjUJxn6zr/B/3XkohAz/DWTmiFao8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.de; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uaynNQBBNTuF6Yi2IBLtp/h+z0CYmCcUWFY2HzonPBQziWPz2HZK/cIy63ednXhOTyEoJSJ77XQdKMAf4spRz2cE+aAzatfHyXivrLHs/vAhk7yVyfweaEf7TN7x7cjxqJw4SHV6pY1WlRYeZ5GI54IZ5MHmgDL7n+KhxYsxAHo=; X-YMail-OSG: sFWzEhwVM1lkSnCSAv3sEBSa5VR.v3P5Ve.I9i0aUQdKfsf Bl8R61FwRLKLqydlajGCkudFnPrnAjBIv8zRPrG4abl2BZrG6oFZ.uwcUb6I trPixPZOUOe2AMK5_EisASNrds4S2g9a7uSAsPIbMZzh5N7nrOaPJkRtLobz GQtJGWmKJTX2PlxUa4w1mJ5aq9ruDcVfGQxeLPok4dYZWNM8kQEa8ZhpGIgi YfD7nbNCWjJ0BNkMgP8jAbFpirL7LAvBFcA825v_8ChSbDGxwNYXaoj4ZHmO cdtzzre2Uiu3XtunbP8j0Reu9Nwe2IVPEjzho4_AdWvALYgLz5SSc_CbLJZx 59X5EHn1Wl8wsyz2QymejvgEkkghKtaYqOB7AYUFPx2SLFOuZ8_.HjjZt5T4 _mzcbLhH6qB5tahBo9RTAdvSDUfsE8XcJ9kK5ScOp9_mV_acRaF.rMZwDoUQ GVak- Received: from [217.251.139.44] by web133202.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:26:12 GMT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, LS0gRXhjdXNlIG1lLi4uIHlvdSdyZSBqb2tpbmcsIHJpZ2h0PyBJIGFzc3VtZSB5b3UgaGF2ZSBhIHBsZW50eWNvcmUKLS0gcHJvY2Vzc29yIHdpdGggR2lncyBvZiBSQU0sIGFuZCBhbHJlYWR5IHR3byBzaGVsbHMgc2hvdyBhIHByb2JsZW0_Ci0tIFRoYXQgc291bmRzIHRvdGFsbHkgd3JvbmcuCgpJcyB0aGF0IHNhcmNhc20gb3IgaXJvbnk_CgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogVm9uOiBQb2x5dHJvcG9uIDxmcmVlYnNkQGVkdmF4LmRlPgpBbjogR2VvcmcgUmVpbGluZ2VyIDwBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.130.494 References: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20130118052438.ddc5b4dd.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <1358522772.46124.YahooMailNeo@web133202.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:26:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Georg Reilinger Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20130118052438.ddc5b4dd.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Georg Reilinger List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:26:15 -0000 -- Excuse me... you're joking, right? I assume you have a plentycore=0A-- p= rocessor with Gigs of RAM, and already two shells show a problem?=0A-- That= sounds totally wrong.=0A=0AIs that sarcasm or irony?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______= _________________________=0A Von: Polytropon =0AAn: Georg= Reilinger =0ACC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"= =0AGesendet: 5:24 Freitag, 18.Januar 2013= =0ABetreff: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1= DVD=0A =0AOn Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 +0000 (GMT), Georg Reilinger wrote:= =0A> As far as I know, FreeBSD has completely dropped support for KDE 3.5. = =0A=0AAs for other desktop environments, yes.=0A=0A=0A=0A> Whether it's the= ports, or the pkg_add precompiled binaries. Am I right in =0A> assuming th= is?=0A=0AI think KDE 3 is still in ports, but will be scheduled for removal= ,=0Aas KDE 4 is the place where development takes place, and there seems=0A= to be no active development on KDE 3 that can be built (!) on FreeBSD=0Adue= to lack of contribution.=0A=0A=0A=0A> I am currently running a live versio= n of FreeBSD 8.2 with KDE 4.8.=0A=0AMay I ask which live system this is?=0A= =0A=0A=0A> The thing =0A> here is, that KDE 4 is simply too heavy for my sy= stem. For example: it is =0A> impossible for me to have two open shells at = the same time. Once I exit a =0A> given shell, I can't open another one due= to a lack of resources, even after having =0A> turned off all the extra st= uff - plasma desktop, nepomuk...=0A=0AExcuse me... you're joking, right? I = assume you have a plentycore=0Aprocessor with Gigs of RAM, and already two = shells show a problem?=0AThat sounds totally wrong.=0A=0AWhen you play a mu= sic file and move the window, do you get skipping=0Aaudio, too?=0A=0AJust s= cary...=0A=0A=0A=0A> As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible thi= ngs, to have a system =0A> running with KDE 3.5 once again:=0A> =0A> 1. Go = back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from the =0A> preco= mpiled binaries that are on the DVD donwload version.=0A> Judging by the re= lease announcements, this should be 7.1.=0A=0AYes, this will work. But note= that you are running an OS that=0Ahas been gone out of support, so you pro= bably won't be able=0Ato install "newer" software using ports or packages. = However,=0Ayou can use the system "as is", and even use ports as long =0Aas= the distfiles are still kept available online.=0A=0A=0A=0A> 2. To be hones= t, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep it for =0A> some time= to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 and still =0A> have KD= E 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever tried to =0A> install a 7.= 1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an 8.2 system? =0A> Is that b= e possible?=0A=0AThat should be possible if you install the required compat= 7x=0Aport on the system. Keep an eye on dependencies and make sure=0Ayou wo= n't be shooting your feet. A good start would be to=0Ainstall the KDE stuff= on a "clean" system (right after compat7x)=0Aso there won't be much confus= ion.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0APolytropon=0AMagdeburg, Germany=0AHappy FreeBSD us= er since 4.0=0AAndra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...=0A_____________________________= __________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://li= sts.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send a= ny mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 15:37:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8831AE for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net [88.44.63.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508AFD2 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.61]) by smtp-out04.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:37:55 +0100 Received: from freebsd ([92.224.209.164]) by out.alice-dsl.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:37:43 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "FreeBSD quest" Subject: Re: Dependencies after port tree update References: <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:37:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (FreeBSD) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2013 15:37:43.0719 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1FBF370:01CDF591] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:37:57 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 05:50:51 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > "man portmaster" root@freebsd:/root # portmaster --list-origins > ~/installed-port-list root@freebsd:/root # portsnap fetch update root@freebsd:/root # portmaster -ty --clean-distfiles root@freebsd:/root # portmaster --check-port-dbdir delete? always y root@freebsd:/root # portmaster -Faf root@freebsd:/root # pkg_delete -a root@freebsd:/root # rm -rf /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg No backup of files in /usr/local, such as configuration files in /usr/local/etc needed. Do the following directories have to be "more" empty? root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/bin total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/sbin total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib total 12 drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:17 X11 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2.2k Jan 14 19:30 charset.alias drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 3.0k Jan 18 16:19 compat drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1.0k Jan 18 16:10 dssi root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/dssi total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/compat total 0 root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/X11 total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:14 app-defaults drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:14 fonts root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /var/db/pkg total 9424 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9.2M Dec 23 22:42 pkgdb.db root@freebsd:/root # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster && make deinstall install clean root@freebsd:/usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster # portmaster `cat ~/installed-port-list` I wonder how to set a variable to automatically "answer" ok. In this case it might be interesting to check all configurations. If I finished this step, will then automatically everything be recompiled and reinstalled? Regards, Ralf -- FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 15:39:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0572225A for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB55AEB for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:39:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-45-17.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.45.17]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70D624D6A; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:39:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0IFdS0f005254; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:39:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:39:28 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Georg Reilinger Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD Message-Id: <20130118163928.ad00358c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1358522772.46124.YahooMailNeo@web133202.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20130118052438.ddc5b4dd.freebsd@edvax.de> <1358522772.46124.YahooMailNeo@web133202.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:39:28 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:26:12 +0000 (GMT), Georg Reilinger wrote: > -- Excuse me... you're joking, right? I assume you have a plentycore > -- processor with Gigs of RAM, and already two shells show a problem? > -- That sounds totally wrong. > > Is that sarcasm or irony? I'm not sure. :-) It just makes me sad to see that today's users with their more-than-sufficient hardware can still run into a lack of resources with something so "simple" as a shell window, simply because today's "simple" isn't simple anymore. If I look back in time... my first BSD system was a Pentium with 150 MHz and 64 MB RAM. This machine had been running a desktop, playing MP3 music, downloading stuff via FTP, compiling the OS kernel, burning a CD, and still providing a responsive web browser -- all at the same time. Of course software matters, or to be precise: It _is_ the software that matters. The quotient resources provided by hardware overall speed = -------------------------------- resources consumed by software doesn't seem to improve (because both numerator and denominator keep increasing quickly). While every release of FreeBSD tends to run faster on the _same_ hardware, this advantage is eaten by the "big stuff" (like desktop environments, office suites and web browsers for example). Most people seem to think that this is normal. So if someone tells: "I open two shells and this almost crashes the system", it sounds terribly wrong. I know it's not about the actual shells, but the environment they're being used in. That's everything I wanted to express with this statement. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 15:39:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81EDD2F3 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-la0-f46.google.com (mail-la0-f46.google.com [209.85.215.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD64F9 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:39:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f46.google.com with SMTP id fq12so1518881lab.5 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:39:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=hZ1eRdu3ro0ySMNwC6QBBKndwyicUV2xkO4BQMGev2k=; b=W9RvbVL0XBqOq/ybc0b0SX/+H1XPhED8ROmxmU59M2H2hRfuxVv0KRcDNz07kaTKxj gyIrRtOvRKqQk3nQt6lRC3yzKC9/01mh/Fi3ElqjVi024uhPhezd8i8T7+r+ddhGE+kP BZRp8QPhW62BxxERQYItwtde++5N02goFcB40= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=hZ1eRdu3ro0ySMNwC6QBBKndwyicUV2xkO4BQMGev2k=; b=aCiYhkcsp8xbTSTZ1qQ12SOOJRQ+NsgNLuSv931igjCkl4oCABC7L8I/3ubCSBD4x5 TSV/ohURuvjC3mifl7DxCsd8b3emqI7iWlw9zsnepyS8HEFUCoHXtEb/61Kwz0uabtXu Qc6/rvT64VzN+8H7vIUg4PzVp4SmYaRCz4MA4tQbBw1Byn7g8TxFDxD4E8XkX9mKEz3R vDmhHzS0xdPw0Erw7lje5OkbI+Fo6RlIemUoRD4VdUZl3B/n25CT88BccAdJImo0eA0K nVn46L2PIG55AkmEKQ6EVob56T8n1XbrufuvEmqbH4AjuYgtFhlh13gEjHISwl3yFSEq h2pA== X-Received: by 10.152.144.4 with SMTP id si4mr8815012lab.10.1358523595308; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:39:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.30.131 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:39:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130118112010.43ad3edb@fabiankeil.de> References: <20130117135241.434f273a@fabiankeil.de> <20130118112010.43ad3edb@fabiankeil.de> From: Eitan Adler Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:39:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: absurd I/O perf with ZFS: hangs on zfs->cv) To: Fabian Keil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnm0L/WHOtNCKtihvcnqlOVsGMJ4TCmS9GswzDfnQ5kkVCQX4TOay9gR2PkKCd3RJDOJc0I Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:39:57 -0000 On 18 January 2013 05:20, Fabian Keil wrote: > A common recommendation is to disable atime for all datasets where > it isn't needed as it can cause lots of unnecessary write operations. Good call. I thought I had already disabled atime updating but it turns out that some datasets had this property still on. > With 8 GB of RAM ZFS enables prefetching by default and I assume > for the git use case it's not too useful and could hurt performance > by amplifying read operations. The "Data Prefetch Efficiency" is > shown by zfs-stats and if it doesn't look too impressive you might > want to disable prefetching to see if it helps. I will look at this number - thanks. > If your repository isn't fresh, you could also try "git gc". > My impression is that the automatic doesn't trigger frequently > enough for larger repositories like /usr/src. This isn't git specific. Doing anything remotely I/O related takes forever: - starting a new shell take over a minute - opening a file in vim which wasn't opened recently take a few minutes - etc. That said, I will be looking closely at the zfs-stats and see if I notice any patterns. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 15:42:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62FB39F for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55F5111 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:42:29 -0800 Message-ID: <50F96D65.2080903@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:42:29 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: pax error message Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2013 15:42:29.0855 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C88D6F0:01CDF592] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:42:29 -0000 I use pax this way. cd dir-path pax -wzX -x cpio -f path-file-name . The period at end of above command is part of the command. When dir-path contains data over 7G in size pax issues this error msg, pax: file is to large for cpio format ./dir-path How do I correct this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 15:51:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8A5787 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93258191 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-45-17.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.45.17]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD01924D64; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:51:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0IFpUlp005312; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:51:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:51:30 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Ralf Mardorf" Subject: Re: Dependencies after port tree update Message-Id: <20130118165130.73cea17d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD quest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:51:29 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:37:43 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Do the following directories have to be "more" empty? > > root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/bin > total 0 > root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/sbin > total 0 > root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib > total 12 > drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:17 X11 > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2.2k Jan 14 19:30 charset.alias > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 3.0k Jan 18 16:19 compat > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1.0k Jan 18 16:10 dssi > root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/dssi > total 0 > root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/compat > total 0 > root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /usr/local/lib/X11 > total 4 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:14 app-defaults > drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512B Jan 18 16:14 fonts > root@freebsd:/root # ls -hAl /var/db/pkg > total 9424 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9.2M Dec 23 22:42 pkgdb.db If you have copied everything you might need from /usr/local (e. g. config files in /usr/local/etc) you can remove the whole directory subtree and recreate it using mtree (from the /etc/mtree/BSD.local.dist description). > I wonder how to set a variable to automatically "answer" ok. > In this case it might be interesting to check all configurations. There is an option for this: portmaster --force-config lets you visit all configuration screens prior to starting any builds (so they will run without any disturbing interaction), and portmaster -G to prevent the "make config" step; there are also the -y and -n options to answer yes or no respectively; with --no-confirm you can accept the list of ports to process without confirmation. > If I finished this step, will then automatically everything be recompiled > and reinstalled? I think so. The example in the manual seems to work on most conditions, and personally I didn't have trouble with using it. In some cases, deleting the installed applications isn't even needed: portmaster can fix things as it processes only those parts that need to be compiled (for example due to a newer or missing library dependency); the "portmaster -arf" command should do this, if I remember correctly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 15:56:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6A186C for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:56:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6B51C0 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-45-17.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.45.17]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188F125284; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:56:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0IFuCNE005363; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:56:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:56:12 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: pax error message Message-Id: <20130118165612.193ef373.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <50F96D65.2080903@a1poweruser.com> References: <50F96D65.2080903@a1poweruser.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:56:11 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:42:29 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: > When dir-path contains data over 7G in size pax issues this error msg, > > pax: file is to large for cpio format ./dir-path > > How do I correct this? Maybe by patching or rewriting cpio. :-) >From "man cpio", the BUGS section contains: The cpio archive formats cannot support files over 4 gigabytes, except for the ``odc'' variant, which can support files up to 8 gigabytes. And cpio has a -c option (equals --format odc), maybe you can hand this over from pax? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 16:00:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82866B4F for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net [88.44.60.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB1F217 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.59]) by smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:00:23 +0100 Received: from freebsd ([92.224.209.164]) by out.alice-dsl.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:59:55 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Dependencies after port tree update References: <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130118165130.73cea17d.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:59:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130118165130.73cea17d.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (FreeBSD) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2013 15:59:55.0548 (UTC) FILETIME=[DBD0EDC0:01CDF594] Cc: FreeBSD quest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:00:32 -0000 I stopped by Ctrl + C, add --no-confirm to the command and run it again. To read this mail I had to use the archive, Opera can't display received emails at the moment ;). Thank you! Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 16:03:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16416CF3 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6F5245 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:03:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.105.244] by nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 16:03:34 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.67] by tm16.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 16:03:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp147.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jan 2013 16:03:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1358525014; bh=W7H8kLZAVtE9fAsbZwG7bfVY/oD3tjIjLZVFiGk+Okg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=jLC35bGiuJwRpLsLKq0eh3tISu3oSoE4/WnQ5JJPh13okd7euncks0NwlFQZilBrCFtQHRnFvK/3J2+GPyoCt3wm+M8M6vPLnPuUm8cYFFJOEyPNeJdKbLtegPo2CzYEK7rg55pRIljfu+frM3ZmTCYEzjXGjJYaiA2FXQ98nRQ= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 401834.49004.bm@smtp147.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Y8VhaVoVM1ltFeABE_dmf9syF8H3P_vyeRavcMljkWuAzMb vA004uyaQ0RDbX0T7H_JpJMcvQQ7nhB37h6VAzfDxOKUCXlUZVKb4jcU5n.R Ktt89oUKGIY1u4flrgg0CLYcdbm24g9Py2l5YZwk_7bGZr9Y4kNAagWR.eu0 jlA17WRxdB.bH2RT7dgscNNnsFIlKLGXMTDn5rNG.HhsnwTaxs_4RgePq9I9 C3BBXqi9xW5k0TgSmu2uc4YLwPtKnmMPq56ROayeqxMJDx.Q2eSwdwQ0wbag hbTcUM2CoIN3g1pfEBdJShE.f97ilza7RibD0wPjVPzAg7CqSRClcG8qZCwo NP40c4pL_Jw38NQkTO0aBaxyNno450dRYjQEQonom_HN2oVQ4UOn3EIitKGN NPNWbNVQcnl.JqhiXnIyEMsC.aRWp9Rxa2MCKl_qie5OX X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.209.164 with login) by smtp147.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jan 2013 08:03:34 -0800 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Dependencies after port tree update References: <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130118165130.73cea17d.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:03:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (FreeBSD) Cc: FreeBSD quest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:03:37 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:59:55 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I stopped by Ctrl + C, add --no-confirm to the command and run it again. > > To read this mail I had to use the archive, Opera can't display received > emails at the moment ;). > > Thank you! Oops, I should read more carefully, this doesn't do it ;). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 16:20:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D03AFEF for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:20:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CDA31F for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-45-17.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.45.17]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD543CD15; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:20:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0IGKe4L005449; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:20:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:20:40 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Ralf Mardorf" Subject: Re: Dependencies after port tree update Message-Id: <20130118172040.3e051cb6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130118165130.73cea17d.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD quest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:20:39 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:03:33 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:59:55 +0100, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > > I stopped by Ctrl + C, add --no-confirm to the command and run it again. > > > > To read this mail I had to use the archive, Opera can't display received > > emails at the moment ;). > > > > Thank you! > > Oops, I should read more carefully, this doesn't do it ;). Correct: --no-confirm confirms the list to be processed when the program starts; -y answers "yes" everywhere; -G prevents all the "make config" screens, whereas --force-config visits all of them prior to the "real work". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 16:58:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598C4DD9 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f49.google.com (mail-bk0-f49.google.com [209.85.214.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66A07D6 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f49.google.com with SMTP id jm19so2167651bkc.36 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:58:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jM4YEY57EevR+623HmBtBp940M5N8vmCTc/v6QKhARY=; b=aUBTIf/idmNHtQgc/1U+V9CctqbxtGRCUdipsfeyGZX3NuvyVSaLZFwWentJtfNL9Y 62coHffi8d68srsqE4hv6To2PuM3gS5W5e92vF2k69RqjT0d3399m9JFm1HqJeEwlom4 AVonj4SnKxC14maY/O73O9UQx1Js19uDyvZuRNxxNh4UBVexRheJNKL65G6KrW4NsMY0 v4jIgzWs9KcqcTwEm/ZPaGe7QJklDHKapJT7ZFgy7mZJ3O8SM/4JGUIH9YFwlICu3J/S LHnn9yBRa5sYigHdswVUouLChdRjsQLFNzKp7eWGH+T86A6/qc67fWHNlfbB2YWPtkqm uZ1w== X-Received: by 10.204.154.202 with SMTP id p10mr2733432bkw.29.1358528298699; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i20sm4498275bkw.5.2013.01.18.08.58.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:58:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:58:11 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD Message-ID: <20130118165811.5b851b3f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:58:20 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 01:25:03 +0000 (GMT) Georg Reilinger wrote: > As a consequence, I can see myself do two possible things, to have a > system > > running with KDE 3.5 once again: > > 1. Go back to an older release of FreeBSD and install KDE 3.5 from > the > that's pointless > 2. To be honest, I am quite happy with 8.2 and I would like to keep > it for some time to come. In other words, is there a way to keep 8.2 > and still have KDE 3.5 along with it? For example has anyone ever > tried to install a 7.1 pre-built package (KDE 3.5 in this case) on an > 8.2 system? Is that be possible? You can carry on using 3.5 on any current release. The problem is when it's eventually removed from ports, updating other ports may result in dependency problems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 17:30:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19150D89 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:30:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C128AABE for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:30:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0IHUOmh097971; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:30:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0IHUO0P097968; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:30:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:30:24 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: Dependencies after port tree update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:30:25 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD quest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:30:28 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I wonder how to set a variable to automatically "answer" ok. > In this case it might be interesting to check all configurations. I use this in /usr/local/etc/portmaster.rc: # Do not create temporary backup packages before pkg_delete (-B) NO_BACKUP=Bopt # Never search for stale distfiles to delete (-D) DONT_SCRUB_DISTFILES=Dopt # Suppress the build confirmation message (--no-confirm) PM_NO_CONFIRM=pm_no_confirm > If I finished this step, will then automatically everything be recompiled and > reinstalled? Yes. Unless it errors out, in which case portmaster will list the ports remaining to rebuilt. Then you can fix the problem and continue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 17:31:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962CADAE for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554AEACD for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0IHVTpL097977; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:31:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r0IHVTvO097974; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:31:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:31:29 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Dependencies after port tree update In-Reply-To: <20130118165130.73cea17d.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130118165130.73cea17d.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:31:29 -0700 (MST) Cc: Ralf Mardorf , FreeBSD quest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:31:35 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:37:43 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> Do the following directories have to be "more" empty? ... > If you have copied everything you might need from /usr/local > (e. g. config files in /usr/local/etc) you can remove the > whole directory subtree and recreate it using mtree (from > the /etc/mtree/BSD.local.dist description). Yes, but it is not required. I've never done it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 17:33:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323ECE11 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-f41.google.com (mail-qa0-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0E4AE0 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id o19so5393283qap.14 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:33:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Q2Xks42Ho3OCljGqprKRhDzWrucy9mrtUDjXiX2fUCI=; b=XkVqfckvxdZRt4vQX3rKbVdbkkarX4R/FY5Oa1PoYIziquPCs120XkLgHTn53S5jI3 xIDpKyrEWoibiWkvSNmE+fvSGpCH8MjvBl5PGhI6UkVxTNekkTRlYlOHrbZu2dJhYw1z Qe6o6Gf5CP26bIY/6IxSmKQvBR6fV3YOtoFKDvilEnunysZa0LuSRcroDcGdUCBe+R9V 4yphBZgBvQ9+94ZDXTlYI5JE/+ggK65ELuRrwDF+NTNqKwCVgohGttCALxY83K4Vw634 ly63PveFYlwJlWJI1hkP6/siOU8G9RQUHF+7FOtHeSDTA3GW9ydbDxjGiK9ZB6y16yNu Wezw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.185.148 with SMTP id co20mr10381592qab.94.1358530420728; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:33:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.128.168 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:33:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:33:40 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: absurd I/O perf with ZFS: hangs on zfs->cv) From: Adam Vande More To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:33:42 -0000 On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > Hi all. > > > Running FreeBSD 9.1-Release, I am seeing some absurd hangs (10 minutes > or more to open a file) with SIGINFO informing me that the process is > stuck on zio->io_cv. > > Does anyone have any suggestions for what I want to look at to tune > this? > https://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide Even has a section on laptop settings. Also the ZFS Evil Tuning Guide -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 18:27:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764FF159 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:27:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62CCE8C for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id pWQh1k003516WCc01WQizP; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:24:42 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=b6RsFK6x c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=Fu_n5yJQHbEA:10 a=u54JFelAJEcA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=S1Qh0pZ8r2wA:10 a=RAcyXFVHlEZ6Bz_qwcMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1TwGcK-0006XA-Vk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:24:41 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:24:40 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.8.4; amd64; ; ) References: <1358472303.40523.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <20130118165811.5b851b3f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20130118165811.5b851b3f@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201301181824.40349.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.2 with pre-built KDE 3.5 package from FreeBSD 7.1 DVD Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:27:53 -0000 On Friday 18 January 2013 16:58:11 RW wrote: > You can carry on using 3.5 on any current release. The problem is when > it's eventually removed from ports, updating other ports may result in > dependency problems. I'm already starting to experience some problems which I assume are due to incompatibility with some recently upgraded dependencies and I've finally, and somewhat reluctantly, switched to KDE 4.8. It's certainly more bloated than 3.5 but after getting rid of some unwanted eye candy it's not as bad as I expected, certainly better than last time I tried it out about a year ago. The most noticeable deterioration in performance is that it's much slower to start up than 3.5 was and kmail takes much longer to open a mail "folder" than it used to. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 20:08:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22FBB7C for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from maul.immure.com (adsl-66-136-206-1.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.136.206.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F58347 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rancor.immure.com (rancor.immure.com [10.1.132.9]) by maul.immure.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0IK8Pkw037028 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:08:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from rancor.immure.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rancor.immure.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0IK8PYV004227 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:08:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@rancor.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by rancor.immure.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r0IK8PIF004226 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:08:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:08:25 -0600 From: Bob Willcox To: questions list Subject: Safe way to repair corrupted GPT partition table? Message-ID: <20130118200824.GA4084@rancor.immure.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-immure-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-immure-MailScanner-ID: r0IK8Pkw037028 X-immure-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-immure-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.9, required 1, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-immure-MailScanner-From: bob@immure.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Willcox List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:08:49 -0000 Is there a way to repair a GPT partition table that has gotten corrupted (following a system hang during heavy I/O to a ZFS filesystem)? I now get these errors whenever I boot the system: GEOM: da0: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. GEOM: da0: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. Fortunately, my ZFS filesystem on the disk (actually a RAID 5 array on a ARC-1223 adapter) still mounts and seems to be ok. There is only one partition on the disk (the ZFS one) and it covered the entire disk so restoring it should be easy. Question is, is there a way to do this and will it be safe (I wouldn't want to trash the filesystem in the partion). A 'gpart show da0' gives this result: gpart: No such geom: da0. This is on a 9.1-STABLE system: FreeBSD rancor.immure.com 9.1-STABLE FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE #2 r245176: Tue Jan 8 15:45:29 CST 2013 bob@amidala.immure.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMIDALA amd64 Any help would be much appreciated. -- Bob Willcox | LIVING YOUR LIFE: bob@immure.com | A task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. Austin, TX | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 21:10:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2624E20F for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from realrichardsharpe@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vb0-f47.google.com (mail-vb0-f47.google.com [209.85.212.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30B381D for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id e21so4036334vbm.6 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:10:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fU1NMEA9Zssq0STfdQ+IheM/3+wt5KJHVMedtVFAarU=; b=Iw9dRyW3aAdOblr1cgD94aC4OWrarZJsx2zneurHGr0yxubfcJc4xbDVUmAW8CE6Y1 aUoRSj9Nj2xFSFyhyNdOOQgD4jJTn6ado3vAjiHwpQFcGj87XetviQ2yz1PUmq9iHBGg mkXBp7+VciK12U6Ln0OOBwE5JJnmzuauhNm2Lyiy5ZajG4agobnApKIBfy9M/7QNbuO6 ELmgUGChO9/+kWp7Cjoq+c9gS3qt3nk/HTEQL3S+9w6XMFFiPOfVFJr4FlVsqUGfsVTz TCXQOlNqyFB2tdok+l2vnrHPkngX3oFP3Sn6BkKDmzUsME7HsTKk+1URdBL6HsnauPqs 4qgA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.28.176 with SMTP id c16mr9708600vdh.126.1358543417618; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.188.78 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:10:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:10:17 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Have there been any fixes for long TCP delays with FreeBSD 8.3 or 9.x? From: Richard Sharpe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:10:24 -0000 Hi folks, I am seeing a problem when copying large files via SMB/Samba from a FreeBSD 8.0-based system (with Samba 3.6.6 and ZFS etc) where eventually Windows drops the connection. However, it seems, based on three captures I have, that what has happened is that FreeBSD has not supplied any data on the connection for 50-60 seconds and the Windows 60-second timeout trips. In each case, what I see is a large number of 1500-byte frames go out. Then Windows ACKs a reasonable amount of data, 30+K or so, and then sends another ACK to ack everything so far received. Then in two cases, after about 52 seconds I see some more data in two of the captures I have but after a further few seconds, Windows disconnects. In the last capture, there was no further data for 60 seconds, so Windows disconnected. I know there should have been more data because: 1. The READ requests are for 64kiB and there is still data to come and the sequence numbers match up. 2. In my Samba traces I know that Samba has gone on to process the next SMB2 command in sequence and the time difference between these are of the order of 1mS and Samba in this case is operating in sync mode where it does not read the next command off the socket until it has finished writing the response for the previous command to the socket. The system is relatively idle. Only one smbd and some web traffic (inbound as a result of a get). I am hoping that this describes a known problem. I can provide captures on request. They will have to be cut-down as they are 300 to 500MB in length. --=20 Regards, Richard Sharpe (=A6=F3=A5H=B8=D1=BC~=A1H=B0=DF=A6=B3=A7=F9=B1d=A1C--=B1=E4=BE=DE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 23:26:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5011D796 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36567DC7 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:26:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:26:55 -0800 Message-ID: <50F9DA3E.5050607@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:26:54 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: sh script code to get file size. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2013 23:26:55.0119 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D86B1F0:01CDF5D3] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:26:54 -0000 In a script in am working on I need to find out the allocated size of a sparse file. The only command that comes to mind is "ls -lh" The "du -h" command is not appropriate because it will show the occupied size and not the allocated size. I don't know how to parse out to the position in the output of that "ls -lh" command to pickup the file size value. Is there some other way to do this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 23:39:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DDB9DE for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:39:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41B4E2D for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [172.17.17.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0INdoIP028734 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:39:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0INdosx083790 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:39:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.6/8.14.5/Submit) id r0INdouS083789; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:39:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:39:50 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: sh script code to get file size. Message-ID: <20130118233950.GA5709@dan.emsphone.com> References: <50F9DA3E.5050607@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50F9DA3E.5050607@a1poweruser.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.3-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.6 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (email2.allantgroup.com [172.17.19.78]); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:39:51 -0600 (CST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on email2.allantgroup.com X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:39:59 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 18), Fbsd8 said: > In a script in am working on I need to find out the allocated > size of a sparse file. > The only command that comes to mind is "ls -lh" > The "du -h" command is not appropriate because it will show > the occupied size and not the allocated size. > > I don't know how to parse out to the position in the output of that > "ls -lh" command to pickup the file size value. > > Is there some other way to do this? For a single file, you can get the exact filesize with "stat -f %z filename". For the human-friendly version, "du -hA" will work. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 23:45:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471C8ABC for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F91E5B for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vincemacbook.unsane.co.uk (vincemacbook.unsane.co.uk [10.10.10.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0INja0I082382 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:45:37 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <50F9DEA1.4000902@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:45:37 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: sh script code to get file size. References: <50F9DA3E.5050607@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <50F9DA3E.5050607@a1poweruser.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:45:42 -0000 On 18/01/2013 23:26, Fbsd8 wrote: > In a script in am working on I need to find out the allocated > size of a sparse file. > The only command that comes to mind is "ls -lh" > The "du -h" command is not appropriate because it will show > the occupied size and not the allocated size. > > I don't know how to parse out to the position in the output of that > "ls -lh" command to pickup the file size value. > > Is there some other way to do this? cut or awk spring to mind. I'm sure there are more :) (23:31:48 <~>) 0 jhary@ostracod $ ls -lh Cisco-vpn-Profiles.zip | cut -f 5 -w 16k (23:32:15 <~>) 0 jhary@ostracod $ ls -lh Cisco-vpn-Profiles.zip | awk '{print $5}' 16k (23:32:25 <~>) 0 jhary@ostracod $ ls -lh Cisco-vpn-Profiles.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 jhary wheel 16k 11 Jul 2004 Cisco-vpn-Profiles.zip (23:32:32 <~>) 0 jhary@ostracod $ Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 18 23:56:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8293DD28 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6205EEA1 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:56:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:56:16 -0800 Message-ID: <50F9E11F.8070305@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:56:15 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: reza Subject: Re: sh script code to get file size. References: <50F9DA3E.5050607@a1poweruser.com> <1050558211.3259.1358552365235.JavaMail.root@lethalnetworks.com> In-Reply-To: <1050558211.3259.1358552365235.JavaMail.root@lethalnetworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2013 23:56:16.0172 (UTC) FILETIME=[67320EC0:01CDF5D7] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:56:15 -0000 >> >> In a script in am working on I need to find out the allocated >> size of a sparse file. >> The only command that comes to mind is "ls -lh" >> The "du -h" command is not appropriate because it will show >> the occupied size and not the allocated size. >> >> I don't know how to parse out to the position in the output of that >> "ls -lh" command to pickup the file size value. >> >> Is there some other way to do this? >> >> reza wrote: > Does this work for you > > $ ls -lh | awk '{print $5}' > > 132B > 0B > 3.8k > 512B > 3.9k > 512B > 512B > 14M > 512B > > Thanks that works for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 00:07:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D532E3 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26788F0E for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:07:51 -0800 Message-ID: <50F9E3D6.6030409@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:07:50 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Hill Subject: Re: sh script code to get file size. References: <50F9DA3E.5050607@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2013 00:07:51.0362 (UTC) FILETIME=[058FA220:01CDF5D9] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:07:50 -0000 Chris Hill wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2013, Fbsd8 wrote: > >> In a script in am working on I need to find out the allocated >> size of a sparse file. >> The only command that comes to mind is "ls -lh" >> The "du -h" command is not appropriate because it will show >> the occupied size and not the allocated size. >> >> I don't know how to parse out to the position in the output of that >> "ls -lh" command to pickup the file size value. >> >> Is there some other way to do this? > > To parse it out, I've used something like: > > $ ls -lh npviewer.bin.core | cut -d \ -f 9 > 186M > > After the backslash are two spaces: one being the space that's being > escaped to make it the delimiter, the other to separate the options. > > The number after the '-f' determines which "field" of the output is > displayed, which may vary. > > HTH. > Yes that works real nice. Thanks to all who replied. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 00:18:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D58F756 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F69FF7D for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r0INpBIV049360; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:51:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:51:11 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: sh script code to get file size. In-Reply-To: <50F9DA3E.5050607@a1poweruser.com> Message-ID: References: <50F9DA3E.5050607@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:18:55 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jan 2013, Fbsd8 wrote: > In a script in am working on I need to find out the allocated > size of a sparse file. > The only command that comes to mind is "ls -lh" > The "du -h" command is not appropriate because it will show > the occupied size and not the allocated size. > > I don't know how to parse out to the position in the output of that > "ls -lh" command to pickup the file size value. > > Is there some other way to do this? To parse it out, I've used something like: $ ls -lh npviewer.bin.core | cut -d \ -f 9 186M After the backslash are two spaces: one being the space that's being escaped to make it the delimiter, the other to separate the options. The number after the '-f' determines which "field" of the output is displayed, which may vary. HTH. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 00:25:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B661AB1 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:25:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F473FC6 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:25:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=4a1TAIrN9TdEEgcYGXnZcgbprgwgl/PzLxd18sIIOjw=; b=mue1ZK2VQpY+BkKM/WPpsm057X103RkdNAeVrRnX/0gOysddly9SFALxO+ct9OTk3TuEJbaPaaT6cTPAjOu0yQo1AAZyNYoBn39VNbmKYSUwbsz8tA+jV2C579DwdvX2; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=65312 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TwMFI-0028Rv-CU; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:25:17 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 07:25:09 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Bob Willcox Subject: Re: Safe way to repair corrupted GPT partition table? Message-ID: <20130119072509.2579dcce@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <20130118200824.GA4084@rancor.immure.com> References: <20130118200824.GA4084@rancor.immure.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: questions list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:25:25 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:08:25 -0600 Bob Willcox wrote: > Is there a way to repair a GPT partition table that has gotten > corrupted (following a system hang during heavy I/O to a ZFS > filesystem)? > I would use a hex editor. Of course, try it out on another disk before working on that disk. You can even copy the data with dd from the other disk after you are sure it will work. Of course, the size must match or must be made matching. Ok, it is not a safe way but it is a working way. 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Skype, =EA=B4=80=EB=A0=A8 =EC=83=81=ED=91=9C= =EC=99=80 =EB=A1=9C=EA=B3=A0 =EB=B0=8F "S" =EA=B8=B0=ED=98=B8=EB=8A=94 Skyp= e Limited=EC=9D=98 =EC=83=81=ED=91=9C=EC=9E=85=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4. =EC=84=9C=EB=B9=84=EC=8A=A4 =EC=9D=B4=EC=9A=A9 =EC=95=BD=EA=B4=80 http://my.email.skype.com/r/XTGJZN3/DTQH7D/XTBVJCX8/3B99XQ0/DCWPJD/OF/t?a= =3Dcm%5fmmc=3DEMTR|0312%5fB6-%5f-z212-%5f-0100180113KOkr%26ed_rid=3D_edid__= %26ed_mid=3D48823771 =EA=B0=9C=EC=9D=B8 =EC=A0=95=EB=B3=B4 http://my.email.skype.com/r/XTGJZN3/DTQH7D/XTBVJCX8/3B99XQ0/GADLNQ/OF/t?a= =3Dcm%5fmmc=3DEMTR|0312%5fB6-%5f-z212-%5f-0100180113KOkr%26ed_rid=3D_edid__= %26ed_mid=3D48823771 [[XTGJZN3-K5QBVW-DTQH7D-XTBVJCX8-3B99XQ0-M-M2-20130118-c897dc89f90]] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 00:41:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8AAFD8 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-x232.google.com (mail-ia0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A61BE for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f178.google.com with SMTP id y26so1879566iab.37 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:41:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XbXBsw1HQtSEldhVoPjHA5rcGMBd+u4bYDieiiBas5U=; b=vFapQVnW79C6GfjCvM8OZv+9S11PT0HLWyKeCQzifRKPnsICCJBKUbcU25vxNWqqOa nZ4lCALt8KB52y6aILMJgh9bPzTnycyLLjcO62HSHfCc4JjM7P1mySx4Bo5c5dPWkF+K Px5s9QO3I0mMFTVzWjMWFyi3gpxz+J7RLbqiOBAruLPGcp+ZQ/IpEHgOhyWIgsJzruSF AW6pxMxFmJBK785VCK/jS/dYYhGBzSdPMAaeHXk31SXhI6dGtY/i1o+bWQnWWxlXkJPI h47QhYhojnej9Tyyx7UvvZcPdZ98rnWvxm47s7eQrptPABj4sBKmxNFEfbuvWaK32d6b n+2g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.91.7 with SMTP id n7mr7248472icm.40.1358556060212; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.5.70 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:40:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130118200824.GA4084@rancor.immure.com> References: <20130118200824.GA4084@rancor.immure.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:40:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Safe way to repair corrupted GPT partition table? From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Bob Willcox Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: questions list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:41:03 -0000 On 18 January 2013 15:08, Bob Willcox wrote: > Is there a way to repair a GPT partition table that has gotten corrupted > (following a system hang during heavy I/O to a ZFS filesystem)? > > I now get these errors whenever I boot the system: > > GEOM: da0: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. > GEOM: da0: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. > > Fortunately, my ZFS filesystem on the disk (actually a RAID 5 array on a > ARC-1223 adapter) still mounts and seems to be ok. There is only one partition > on the disk (the ZFS one) and it covered the entire disk so restoring it > should be easy. Question is, is there a way to do this and will it be safe (I > wouldn't want to trash the filesystem in the partion). > > A 'gpart show da0' gives this result: > > gpart: No such geom: da0. > > This is on a 9.1-STABLE system: > > FreeBSD rancor.immure.com 9.1-STABLE FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE #2 r245176: Tue Jan 8 15:45:29 CST 2013 bob@amidala.immure.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMIDALA amd64 > > > Any help would be much appreciated. > Is the whole disk in the zfs pool, or is this a single partition covering the whole disk that has been placed in the zfs pool? Have you tried to repair it with the zfs tools? -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 00:51:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E0F3D7 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:51:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xyne@archlinux.ca) Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B625510C for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7287 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jan 2013 00:51:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box539.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.139) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2013 00:51:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=archlinux.ca; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=Ud1Xfo4FTWWBZT8ZEk5lbWtyY9S+M9EJ2zBVG0F7I9k=; b=L/tme7o62Q48+kpsVAj0lCs587Gqs4qEmJtta7bL82czjduHnc6jyV9gqQTcXm9p4li/qNfQB6oRQQJd3yM3iB9Yg6lE0QzhhGfPTeVtzxhUXVJtKdwTBJ7GjyFAuDRB; Received: from [83.154.192.247] (port=46825 helo=localhost.localdomain) by box539.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TwLhb-00071B-0K; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:50:27 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:50:17 +0000 From: Xyne To: Warren Block Subject: Re: svn-export Re: svn bdb checkout? Message-ID: <20130118235017.545509b5@archlinux.ca> In-Reply-To: References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> <50F704CE.3010904@gmail.com> <20130116200754.GD8524@external.screwed.box> <50F70C60.4000108@FreeBSD.org> <20130116205533.GE8524@external.screwed.box> <20130117045431.GB5392@external.screwed.box> <20130118032508.445fa43b@archlinux.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {4243:box539.bluehost.com:archlinu:archlinux.ca} {sentby:smtp auth 83.154.192.247 authed with xyne@archlinux.ca} Cc: Peter Vereshagin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:51:52 -0000 On 2013-01-17 21:32 -0700 Warren Block wrote: >A working version in any language would be great. A better version in >Python would be nice, too, but it's the working part that's important. There's a difference between "working" and "working on a random system with unexpectedly disabled features". The current version works in the former sense. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 02:43:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB77E81 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 02:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christoph@christoph-egger.org) Received: from vidar.ipv6.sieglitzhof.net (vidar.hosts.sieglitzhof.net [IPv6:2a00:f48:1026:0:f1f7:0:fd0b:9023]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038E3686 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 02:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cl-39.muc-02.de.sixxs.net ([2001:a60:f000:26::2] helo=hel.hosts.sieglitzhof.net) by vidar.ipv6.sieglitzhof.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwOOZ-00005s-J7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 02:42:59 +0000 Received: from cl-26.lax-02.us.sixxs.net ([2607:f878:fe00:19::2]:59439 helo=localhost) by hel.hosts.sieglitzhof.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TwOOY-0009qS-1x for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 03:42:59 +0100 From: Christoph Egger To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Privat Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:42:51 -0800 Message-ID: <87622tnb9w.fsf@mitoraj.siccegge.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/kfreebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2607:f878:fe00:19::2 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: christoph@christoph-egger.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on hel.hosts.sieglitzhof.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Slowdown of iwn wireless X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:59:44 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hel.hosts.sieglitzhof.net) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 02:43:03 -0000 Hi! On my home network I noticed that wireless transfer slows down a lot over time. It starts at reasonable internet speed of 300kB/s or something but after 2h of using the network it barely gets more than 20kB/s across. Rebooting helps, as does kicking the kernel module/interface and recreating (though that tends to crash from time to time) It's a 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] (rev 34) Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17 Memory at f2400000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [d0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [e0] Express Endpoint, MSI 00 I'm running a freebsd -CURRENT kernel (revision 242489) (actually the Debian kFreeBSD one but with firmware enabled) iwn6000fw.ko is loaded and iwn built into the kernel Regards Christoph -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 03:34:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884BED5F for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 03:34:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369C787D for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 03:34:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id r0J3bPZE090828; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:37:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:37:25 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201301190337.r0J3bPZE090828@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sh script code to get file size. In-Reply-To: <50F9DA3E.5050607@a1poweruser.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 03:34:07 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jan 18 17:30:31 2013 > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:26:54 -0500 > From: Fbsd8 > To: FreeBSD questions > Subject: sh script code to get file size. > > In a script in am working on I need to find out the allocated > size of a sparse file. > The only command that comes to mind is "ls -lh" > The "du -h" command is not appropriate because it will show > the occupied size and not the allocated size. > > I don't know how to parse out to the position in the output of that > "ls -lh" command to pickup the file size value. ls -lh procmail.log |awk '{print $5}' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 05:23:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E898E104 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 05:23:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xyne@archlinux.ca) Received: from oproxy13-pub.unifiedlayer.com (oproxy13-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.16.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96487AB4 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 05:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16119 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jan 2013 05:22:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box539.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.139) by oproxy13.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2013 05:22:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=archlinux.ca; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=F4vPQ8bD++a8/QOGgLlVWov1szDSwN/LEr3tQ7uFV7I=; b=Tn9QUI8g9nWXL401qrahRe32ru88GcoAPIme6q2yzU8sd9MrqQtRTTUtAdfNg1Imjdo02z/oFhRTBgc8mRRDut6n02xmKbSvfUpud2QpCSqbd4cOFEMN++iH+557n9wv; Received: from [83.154.192.247] (port=58305 helo=localhost.localdomain) by box539.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TwQtF-0003dc-LB; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:22:50 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 05:22:45 +0000 From: Xyne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn-export Re: svn bdb checkout? Message-ID: <20130119052245.004da49b@archlinux.ca> In-Reply-To: <20130117045431.GB5392@external.screwed.box> References: <20130116185832.GB8524@external.screwed.box> <50F6FD37.5060309@gmail.com> <20130116193534.GC8524@external.screwed.box> <50F704CE.3010904@gmail.com> <20130116200754.GD8524@external.screwed.box> <50F70C60.4000108@FreeBSD.org> <20130116205533.GE8524@external.screwed.box> <20130117045431.GB5392@external.screwed.box> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {4243:box539.bluehost.com:archlinu:archlinux.ca} {sentby:smtp auth 83.154.192.247 authed with xyne@archlinux.ca} Cc: Peter Vereshagin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 05:23:13 -0000 Hi, svn-export has now been rewritten in Python 3. Here's a quick list of changes/features: * threads have been replaced with forks (and remain optional) * new option to set svn binary * new option to generate shell script instead of using internal calls * no subshell invocation * only svn binary is called directly I've only done some quick testing. Let me know how it works. Regards, Xyne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 07:12:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80E8E0E for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 07:12:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f45.google.com (mail-bk0-f45.google.com [209.85.214.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E619EC4 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 07:12:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f45.google.com with SMTP id jk13so2347167bkc.18 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:12:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sI7wmmJj4xPCIFkNRzEfACGwklJ2asfA7KsXtxLFyCw=; b=N7lxMs6BeWWyvXAftPIc+pSW68s0wopFYr9oDy7HQ0u5+ZHIzsjI9wWn/IF1uoHRW+ HhW53n8nHQZI9PjBQuDoxHz6piq66tzlB8CPk5CETVEPaUVpdVXn12GJAOBZlV/3axYU IjFS2UcI9s/Xfk83BuHrOjQlUtbdqShB2yWkJhlrpTzaLkRjr+RMVmGK2sLbGUatQ6XN jDttfFSSZzICEexGIcp1qk0dm4dNy4zg6vBIUjg3RU/ysKlmPCRBaSCFO0D+DkwdbWhC eGTc4GQa/ntg307DVdNNCMVpLp+LhY0OtbjHRp9+0yCg08JNPZaxmTbWF8KMHKRwGZWN kw9w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.12.220 with SMTP id y28mr3287951bky.112.1358576365443; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:19:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.75.211 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:19:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 22:19:25 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE w/ SanDisk ImageMate S11202 From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 07:12:51 -0000 On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > Hi, > > I have a PCI Express card with VIA VL800 chipset which seems to work OK > with a Seagate drive, so I presume the interface is working. > > If I boot with a SanDisk ImageMate S11202 plugged into the USB 3.0 card, > the display shows messages about the SanDisk device, appears to properly > identify it, and with like 'querying ...' slots on the card reader, which > all fail - (there are no cards in the reader). Then the machine sails into > outerspace, kind of just sits there until (perhaps) the end of time, or > until I kill the power. It never gets the network interface up, so no ssh. > > It would be great to be able to paste the log here but when I reboot there > is nothing about the activity in the log, it's like the entire boot process > never happened. > > Anyone have any experience with this card reader? I appreciate any > suggestions or tips. > > Below is pertinent system information. > > Thank you, > > > # uname -a > FreeBSD kamira.waitman.net 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #1 r245537: > Thu Jan 17 22:10:56 PST 2013 root@kamira.waitman.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BURPLEX > amd64 > > kernel built with: > > device ahci # AHCI-compatible SATA controllers > device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface > device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface > device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) > device xhci # XHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 3.0) > > pciconf output: > > xhci0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x0c0330 card=0x34321106 chip=0x34321106 > rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'VIA Technologies, Inc.' > class = serial bus > subclass = USB > > interesting log entries: > > Jan 17 23:10:48 kamira kernel: usbus0: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 > > Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: ugen0.3: at usbus0 > Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: umass1: rev 3.00/1.00, addr 2> on usbus0 > Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: da1 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus6 target 0 lun > 0 > Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: da1: Fixed > Direct Access SCSI-0 device > Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: da1: 400.000MB/s transfers > Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: da1: 2861588MB (732566645 4096 byte > sectors: 255H 63S/T 45600C) > > > -- > Waitman Gobble > San Jose California USA > 510-830-7975 > After experimenting a bit, A follow up, when I plug the device in after booting it's no problem. nothing bad happens. Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: ugen0.4 (: at usbus0 Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: umass2: on usbus0 Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: umass2: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x4000 Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: umass2:7:2:-1: Attached to scbus7 Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da2 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus7 target 0 lun 0 Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da2: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da2: 400.000MB/s transfers Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da2: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da3 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus7 target 0 lun 1 Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da3: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da3: 400.000MB/s transfers Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da3: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da4 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus7 target 0 lun 2 Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da4: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da4: 400.000MB/s transfers Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da4: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da5 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus7 target 0 lun 3 Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da5: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da5: 400.000MB/s transfers Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da5: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present when i do a shutdown now, it takes 9:51-9:57 about 6 minutes to disappear from ping and shut down, then it finally comes back up 10:12, so 15 minutes. So reboot = 21 minutes. While it's not the end of time scenario, something is hanging up this machine on boot up and shutdown, with that device... If anyone has a pointer or suggestion I totally appreciate it! definitely need this machine to boot/shutdown much faster! Thank you, -- Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 13:14:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633ACF65 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:14:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xavierfreebsdquestions@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qc0-f176.google.com (mail-qc0-f176.google.com [209.85.216.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20047ADD for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:14:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id n41so2940044qco.7 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 05:14:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=CGlyLb15awA04pTMNDfAT8xeRmVqHqvuRvVZk30Mw78=; b=ccwSDNeMzKNb78RbBymCGCpJebi7fcKIUij7TZIOkY7RT6LZBP+Rsf+K+LmKXUiejk enQKy68wX0EjRxz2HG3++SnDYJs44EgzGeCQFLmrIgfQOp7qpepwbAJGYXV9a3jlnftV CJhddG3cln4rUz8dv1Rz++CyZcKaHKt/vVtGUj4GhfVoZTEZlazjENLBKVibBj3wq3rh zsmQvI0BRtRs/WS4TiryQGEC//iH41myr7jaGu8h3ns6xxEiKgBMgtxlIvjtggnnMP7t TRkFTnqyOyPztNuEMHyAn8pwiBKuUUOZ++FxQOjB7tHOwwWiJuITeB6tX3PLNPOD32U/ snDw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.205.88 with SMTP id fp24mr3120989qcb.43.1358601289253; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 05:14:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.227 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 05:14:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:14:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: laptop fan control via FreeBSD From: Xavier To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:14:50 -0000 Hello Is there any way to control the on and off the fan on a laptop using FreeBSD? Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 14:09:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C0D703 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:09:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4956D77 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([173.88.197.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 19 Jan 2013 06:09:51 -0800 Message-ID: <50FAA92F.5080907@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:09:51 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Waitman Gobble Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE w/ SanDisk ImageMate S11202 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2013 14:09:51.0172 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5B6E040:01CDF64E] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:09:55 -0000 Waitman Gobble wrote: > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have a PCI Express card with VIA VL800 chipset which seems to work OK >> with a Seagate drive, so I presume the interface is working. >> >> If I boot with a SanDisk ImageMate S11202 plugged into the USB 3.0 card, >> the display shows messages about the SanDisk device, appears to properly >> identify it, and with like 'querying ...' slots on the card reader, which >> all fail - (there are no cards in the reader). Then the machine sails into >> outerspace, kind of just sits there until (perhaps) the end of time, or >> until I kill the power. It never gets the network interface up, so no ssh. >> >> It would be great to be able to paste the log here but when I reboot there >> is nothing about the activity in the log, it's like the entire boot process >> never happened. >> >> Anyone have any experience with this card reader? I appreciate any >> suggestions or tips. >> >> Below is pertinent system information. >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> # uname -a >> FreeBSD kamira.waitman.net 9.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #1 r245537: >> Thu Jan 17 22:10:56 PST 2013 root@kamira.waitman.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BURPLEX >> amd64 >> >> kernel built with: >> >> device ahci # AHCI-compatible SATA controllers >> device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface >> device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface >> device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) >> device xhci # XHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 3.0) >> >> pciconf output: >> >> xhci0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x0c0330 card=0x34321106 chip=0x34321106 >> rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 >> vendor = 'VIA Technologies, Inc.' >> class = serial bus >> subclass = USB >> >> interesting log entries: >> >> Jan 17 23:10:48 kamira kernel: usbus0: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 >> >> Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: ugen0.3: at usbus0 >> Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: umass1: > rev 3.00/1.00, addr 2> on usbus0 >> Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: da1 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus6 target 0 lun >> 0 >> Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: da1: Fixed >> Direct Access SCSI-0 device >> Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: da1: 400.000MB/s transfers >> Jan 17 23:11:32 kamira kernel: da1: 2861588MB (732566645 4096 byte >> sectors: 255H 63S/T 45600C) >> >> >> -- >> Waitman Gobble >> San Jose California USA >> 510-830-7975 >> > > > > > > After experimenting a bit, > > A follow up, when I plug the device in after booting it's no problem. > nothing bad happens. > > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: ugen0.4 (: at usbus0 > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: umass2: on > usbus0 > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: umass2: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x4000 > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: umass2:7:2:-1: Attached to scbus7 > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da2 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus7 target 0 lun 0 > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da2: Removable > Direct Access SCSI-0 device > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da2: 400.000MB/s transfers > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da2: Attempt to query device size failed: > NOT READY, Medium not present > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da3 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus7 target 0 lun 1 > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da3: Removable > Direct Access SCSI-0 device > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da3: 400.000MB/s transfers > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da3: Attempt to query device size failed: > NOT READY, Medium not present > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da4 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus7 target 0 lun 2 > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da4: Removable > Direct Access SCSI-0 device > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da4: 400.000MB/s transfers > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da4: Attempt to query device size failed: > NOT READY, Medium not present > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da5 at umass-sim2 bus 2 scbus7 target 0 lun 3 > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da5: Removable > Direct Access SCSI-0 device > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da5: 400.000MB/s transfers > Jan 18 20:58:20 kamira kernel: da5: Attempt to query device size failed: > NOT READY, Medium not present > > > > when i do a shutdown now, it takes 9:51-9:57 about 6 minutes to disappear > from ping and shut down, then it finally comes back up 10:12, so 15 > minutes. > > So reboot = 21 minutes. > > While it's not the end of time scenario, something is hanging up this > machine on boot up and shutdown, with that device... > > If anyone has a pointer or suggestion I totally appreciate it! definitely > need this machine to boot/shutdown much faster! > > Thank you, > I did google lookup on SanDisk uSD SDDR-289, this is a external 4 slot sd card reader that is usb 3 ready and usb 2 compatible. If I understand your post above correctly you can boot your Freebsd system from internal disk or from external usb disk with this external sd card reader plugged in but empty of sd memory cards. The problem is you want to boot off of a sd memory card you have plugged into the external sd card reader. And when you do it takes for ever to boot up. When you plug in your sd memory card, Freebsd reads this info from it. If I remember correctly the 1.00 is the usb standard that card was designed to work with. Since your external 4 slot sd card reader is usb3 ready and usb2 compatible and the sd memory card is usb1 ready, this may be causing some internal time-out delay condition. Recommend you purchase a sd memory card that is usb3 ready and test again. Another test I would do is boot off of a usb2 or usb3 memory stick while leaving the external 4 slot sd card reader plugged in but empty of sd memory cards. Try booting the usb memory stick from your PCI Express card that adds usb3 hardware support and also try booting it from the motherboard usb sockets. Also try the above with the external 4 slot sd card reader unplugged. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 14:14:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4918E0 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33D9DB3 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [78.35.133.73] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1TwZBW-0001ey-Is; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:14:14 +0100 Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:13:58 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: Xavier Subject: Re: laptop fan control via FreeBSD Message-ID: <20130119151358.535d6b9f@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/IOEWkan82xQbJlLMlHqPP=6"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:14:21 -0000 --Sig_/IOEWkan82xQbJlLMlHqPP=6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xavier wrote: > Is there any way to control the on and off the fan on a laptop using Free= BSD? It depends on the laptop. On mine it works: fk@r500 ~ $sysctl -ad | grep fan dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: Fan speed dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: Fan level dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: Fan enable Fabian --Sig_/IOEWkan82xQbJlLMlHqPP=6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlD6qisACgkQBYqIVf93VJ2viQCgvvVlCUqRXjgyN0iirZpCExX4 ljgAoJX5nA/iIlWSrTdVd2ULBSaltUYn =fysA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/IOEWkan82xQbJlLMlHqPP=6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 14:40:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3519FBC9 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@chthonixia.net) Received: from www5.pairlite.com (www5.pairlite.com [64.130.10.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EABE57 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from whisperer.chthonixia.net (unknown [184.152.30.105]) by www5.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A910E2E304 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:40:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:42:18 -0500 From: Joe Altman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE w/ SanDisk ImageMate S11202 Message-ID: <20130119144218.GA66249@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:40:43 -0000 On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:19:25PM -0800, Waitman Gobble wrote: > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a PCI Express card with VIA VL800 chipset which seems to work > OK with a Seagate drive, so I presume the interface is working. I think my question is relevant: Does the working drive mean that you have the proper USB bits in your kernel? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/usb-disks.html 19.5.1 Configuration If you use a custom kernel, be sure that the following lines are present in your kernel configuration file: device scbus <== device da <== device pass <+= device uhci device ohci device ehci device usb device umass <== I don't see them mentioned below. > > If I boot with a SanDisk ImageMate S11202 plugged into the USB 3.0 card, > > the display shows messages about the SanDisk device, appears to properly > > identify it, and with like 'querying ...' slots on the card reader, which > > all fail - (there are no cards in the reader). Then the machine sails into > > outerspace, kind of just sits there until (perhaps) the end of time, or > > until I kill the power. It never gets the network interface up, so no ssh. > > kernel built with: > > > > device ahci # AHCI-compatible SATA controllers > > device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface > > device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface > > device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) > > device xhci # XHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 3.0) General question: The man page is ambiguous to me; does it mean that one only needs xhci for all three versions, or must one specify all? DESCRIPTION The xhci driver provides support for the USB eXtensible Host Controller Interface, which allows use of USB 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 devices on the same USB port. Such that xhci can handle *all* such USB devices? Also, ahci has a number of sysctl knobs for interrupts. Maybe that is a path to resolving the issue? Regards, Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 14:59:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C3FD8E for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:59:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from maul.immure.com (adsl-66-136-206-1.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.136.206.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97824ECB for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rancor.immure.com (rancor.immure.com [10.1.132.9]) by maul.immure.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0JEx8ap049610; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 08:59:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from rancor.immure.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rancor.immure.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0JEx8t8007901; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 08:59:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@rancor.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by rancor.immure.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r0JEx8lL007900; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 08:59:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 08:59:07 -0600 From: Bob Willcox To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: Safe way to repair corrupted GPT partition table? Message-ID: <20130119145907.GA7788@rancor.immure.com> References: <20130118200824.GA4084@rancor.immure.com> <20130119072509.2579dcce@X220.ovitrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130119072509.2579dcce@X220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-immure-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-immure-MailScanner-ID: r0JEx8ap049610 X-immure-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-immure-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.9, required 1, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-immure-MailScanner-From: bob@immure.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: questions list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Willcox List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 14:59:30 -0000 On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 07:25:09AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 14:08:25 -0600 > Bob Willcox wrote: > > > Is there a way to repair a GPT partition table that has gotten > > corrupted (following a system hang during heavy I/O to a ZFS > > filesystem)? > > > I would use a hex editor. Of course, try it out on another disk before > working on that disk. You can even copy the data with dd from the other > disk after you are sure it will work. Of course, the size must match or > must be made matching. > > Ok, it is not a safe way but it is a working way. Have to say I was hoping that there was some programatic way to do this. Certainly if I go down this path I'll have to practice on a disk that doesn't contain data that I care about. Getting the size right as this is the only disk of this size I have. (Actually, it's an Areca RAID 5 Volume Set.) Thanks, Bob > > Erich -- Bob Willcox | LIVING YOUR LIFE: bob@immure.com | A task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. Austin, TX | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 15:01:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0850EF6 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from maul.immure.com (adsl-66-136-206-1.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.136.206.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35115EF9 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rancor.immure.com (rancor.immure.com [10.1.132.9]) by maul.immure.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r0JF0vVi049690; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:00:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from rancor.immure.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rancor.immure.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r0JF0ve1007934; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:00:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@rancor.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by rancor.immure.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r0JF0vwV007933; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:00:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:00:57 -0600 From: Bob Willcox To: "illoai@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Safe way to repair corrupted GPT partition table? Message-ID: <20130119150057.GB7788@rancor.immure.com> References: <20130118200824.GA4084@rancor.immure.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-immure-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-immure-MailScanner-ID: r0JF0vVi049690 X-immure-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-immure-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.9, required 1, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90) X-immure-MailScanner-From: bob@immure.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: questions list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Willcox List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:01:32 -0000 On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 07:40:59PM -0500, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 18 January 2013 15:08, Bob Willcox wrote: > > Is there a way to repair a GPT partition table that has gotten corrupted > > (following a system hang during heavy I/O to a ZFS filesystem)? > > > > I now get these errors whenever I boot the system: > > > > GEOM: da0: corrupt or invalid GPT detected. > > GEOM: da0: GPT rejected -- may not be recoverable. > > > > Fortunately, my ZFS filesystem on the disk (actually a RAID 5 array on a > > ARC-1223 adapter) still mounts and seems to be ok. There is only one partition > > on the disk (the ZFS one) and it covered the entire disk so restoring it > > should be easy. Question is, is there a way to do this and will it be safe (I > > wouldn't want to trash the filesystem in the partion). > > > > A 'gpart show da0' gives this result: > > > > gpart: No such geom: da0. > > > > This is on a 9.1-STABLE system: > > > > FreeBSD rancor.immure.com 9.1-STABLE FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE #2 r245176: Tue Jan 8 15:45:29 CST 2013 bob@amidala.immure.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMIDALA amd64 > > > > > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > > > Is the whole disk in the zfs pool, or is this a > single partition covering the whole disk that > has been placed in the zfs pool? It is a single partition covering the entire disk. > > Have you tried to repair it with the zfs tools? No, not sure what to try. I'm fairly new to zfs. Thanks, Bob > > -- > -- -- Bob Willcox | LIVING YOUR LIFE: bob@immure.com | A task so difficult, it has never been attempted before. 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From: MrsCaroline MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20130119151709.6F8984108014@lantic.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:17:09 +0200 (SAST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Sender-Verify: SUCCEEDED (sender exists & accepts mail) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: intertravelsconsultancy@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:18:28 -0000 =0D Greetings from Inter-Travels Ltd=0D =0D Hello,=0D I am Mrs Caroline campbell,I am making enquiry on behalf of a group of sc= hool staffs (Lecturers) that are coming to your country for a leave,tour,= relaxation visit and academic related activities.=0D =0D This group of staffs are 12 guest in numbers.=0D =0D number of rooms needed: 12=0D type of rooms: 12 executive rooms=0D Arrival Scheduled date: February 21st 2013=0D departure: February 30th 2013=0D =0D This team also requested that we prepare a tour package for them .=0D =0D Kindly let me know if you would be able to assist us with this group book= ing and arrangements.=0D =0D I will appreciate your swift response ,=0D =0D Thanks and God bless you,=0D =0D Best Regard,=0D Mrs Caroline campbell=0D Inter-Travels Ltd=0D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 15:55:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A5EE56 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:55:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xavierfreebsdquestions@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-f53.google.com (mail-qa0-f53.google.com [209.85.216.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3601B9 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:55:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id a19so3739808qad.5 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 07:55:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IHC44d/zV13jvIt/jbE3dOUBSMNLJ78/aV1amnR2h6o=; b=aaJDBsWfElI4nELWnaL5zs75AwReBJ0eOwhHAcWLJLPD8ua4dG1+andMQ1oNMdkiLX 4IAaif13m6HO7t6x6DosEVf4VqC+9m7nf8l6Rw5A55N3+vbA2l2NSPwESvslyOjYeRFk VAGBL/xqpMJtg0Ir7x1etSnCtTiITSoXGgEusQ5Ik4l7rN7nJUx2SYHG/aJbuCfk0/B9 Oy3yVLC9LTVOCzzZYjawcnmOdV/ImUpEmUuXYBlhtayRj37kqEohxPBXZOEQHLqglwUq LhATqodAnaQx9ec/fvzwdIdXczH2jkNwPQkxnVafJX9b5U1P4jeX1mzSI0I1y+1DZfp1 CDYw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.195.211 with SMTP id ed19mr2998783qcb.78.1358610923300; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 07:55:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.227 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 07:55:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130119151358.535d6b9f@fabiankeil.de> References: <20130119151358.535d6b9f@fabiankeil.de> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:55:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: laptop fan control via FreeBSD From: Xavier To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:55:24 -0000 On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:13:58PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote: Hi Fabian, > Xavier wrote: > > > Is there any way to control the on and off the fan on a laptop using FreeBSD? > > It depends on the laptop. On mine it works: > > fk@r500 ~ $sysctl -ad | grep fan > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: Fan speed > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: Fan level > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: Fan enable > My output of 'sysctl -ad | grep fan' don't show these parameters. Why ? Because, my BIOS don't support these aparameters ? Another answer ? Thanks, see you ! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 16:04:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C16F6F for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8088A207 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-45-17.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.45.17]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46B224D2C; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:04:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r0JG4a8n006573; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:04:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:04:36 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Xavier Subject: Re: laptop fan control via FreeBSD Message-Id: <20130119170436.e9dc8606.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20130119151358.535d6b9f@fabiankeil.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:04:41 -0000 On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:55:23 +0100, Xavier wrote: > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:13:58PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote: > > Hi Fabian, > > > Xavier wrote: > > > > > Is there any way to control the on and off the fan on a laptop using FreeBSD? > > > > It depends on the laptop. On mine it works: > > > > fk@r500 ~ $sysctl -ad | grep fan > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: Fan speed > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: Fan level > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: Fan enable > > > > My output of 'sysctl -ad | grep fan' don't show these parameters. Why ? > Because, my BIOS don't support these aparameters ? Another answer ? For laptops, you usually load a kernel module for interfacing with the specific ACPI functions, like acpi_ibm.ko. There are several others, but see "man acpi_ibm" for some impressions. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 16:07:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A204B9C for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B00224 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [78.35.133.73] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Twawv-00086w-R5; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:07:17 +0100 Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:07:07 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: Xavier Subject: Re: laptop fan control via FreeBSD Message-ID: <20130119170707.1aa3a8ee@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20130119151358.535d6b9f@fabiankeil.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/ecDe+cRksfi/os5pmWx+OAW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:07:19 -0000 --Sig_/ecDe+cRksfi/os5pmWx+OAW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xavier wrote: > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:13:58PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote: >=20 > Hi Fabian, >=20 > > Xavier wrote: > > > > > Is there any way to control the on and off the fan on a laptop using = FreeBSD? > > > > It depends on the laptop. On mine it works: > > > > fk@r500 ~ $sysctl -ad | grep fan > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: Fan speed > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: Fan level > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: Fan enable > > >=20 > My output of 'sysctl -ad | grep fan' don't show these parameters. Why ? > Because, my BIOS don't support these aparameters ? Another answer ? acpi_ibm(4) is a kernel module that isn't loaded by default. Depending on your hardware you may have to kldload a different module. You could try: ls /boot/kernel/acpi_*.ko and then kldload the module you think makes sense for your hardware. Note that not all modules have fan control, though. As I only use IBM and Lenovo laptops I'm not familiar with the other modules. Fabian --Sig_/ecDe+cRksfi/os5pmWx+OAW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlD6xLUACgkQBYqIVf93VJ1w8gCgtWarsQGM3T/SwzgxWRH0ApHm ZFEAn0SJR3GcG1zcS+puL6jd2ZOtt9HJ =5YV/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/ecDe+cRksfi/os5pmWx+OAW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 17:06:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7578B1D3 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f43.google.com (mail-bk0-f43.google.com [209.85.214.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02A5812 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f43.google.com with SMTP id jf20so2445386bkc.16 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:05:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=xiJ+boquE3k+mGuoViF0IS0fLt+1ckOQ6g3UQMYZujY=; b=KjZkAwBtHXESlv4wwY7XTbSm5HchgTVK+kleddnPPfUUlgLpgYUyUajbVSTDtaFEFu iB6uY05TzXCnaTguh+6VQqKxRNr1JR/3Lr8oB+SMePhgHqJ7lkXFSJ0W/53OnPBTMjxM Qzmcw1Rg18nt4R+Zoo3CoSJU4fS3zD7ARCoyXpdoYv/i4hrDWbfJKmKmC55YMuwS+BVt PJv7fiszd1HBxEQ1JUOm5YVK3fIOBYChdQspgpfxH85IM/8KeT61aXH4y7hYB7peP4X5 dlzeCCdRegCPykVqW90s5o75oj7yqPhM3jGi7kuRqMPVUV+1Fk/xUOEWAK6aqDvewSLk V3vA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.7.78 with SMTP id c14mr3525706bkc.100.1358615155976; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.229.135 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:05:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130119144218.GA66249@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: <20130119144218.GA66249@whisperer.chthonixia.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:05:55 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE w/ SanDisk ImageMate S11202 From: Waitman Gobble To: Joe Altman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:06:03 -0000 On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Joe Altman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:19:25PM -0800, Waitman Gobble wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Waitman Gobble >wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have a PCI Express card with VIA VL800 chipset which seems to work > > OK with a Seagate drive, so I presume the interface is working. > > I think my question is relevant: > > Does the working drive mean that you have the proper USB bits in your > kernel? > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/usb-disks.html > > 19.5.1 Configuration > If you use a custom kernel, be sure that the following lines are present > in your kernel configuration file: > > device scbus <== > device da <== > device pass <+= > device uhci > device ohci > device ehci > device usb > device umass <== > > I don't see them mentioned below. > > > > If I boot with a SanDisk ImageMate S11202 plugged into the USB 3.0 > card, > > > the display shows messages about the SanDisk device, appears to > properly > > > identify it, and with like 'querying ...' slots on the card reader, > which > > > all fail - (there are no cards in the reader). Then the machine sails > into > > > outerspace, kind of just sits there until (perhaps) the end of time, or > > > until I kill the power. It never gets the network interface up, so no > ssh. > > > > kernel built with: > > > > > > device ahci # AHCI-compatible SATA controllers > > > device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface > > > device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface > > > device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) > > > device xhci # XHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 3.0) > > General question: > > The man page is ambiguous to me; does it mean that one only needs xhci > for all three versions, or must one specify all? > > DESCRIPTION > The xhci driver provides support for the USB eXtensible Host > Controller Interface, which allows use of USB 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 > devices on the same USB port. > > Such that xhci can handle *all* such USB devices? > > Also, ahci has a number of sysctl knobs for interrupts. Maybe that is a > path to resolving the issue? > > Regards, > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi, yes i have those options in the kernel config # ATA/SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for ATA/SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct ATA/SCSI access) device ses # Enclosure Services (SES and SAF-TE) device ctl # CAM Target Layer # USB support options USB_DEBUG # enable debug msgs device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device xhci # XHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 3.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices (needs netgraph) device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard #device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse #device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player I have turned off usb printer, double bulk pipe device, and all the usb wireless and ethernet interfaces. # camcontrol devlist at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (ada0,pass0) at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,cd0) at scbus1 target 1 lun 0 (pass2,cd1) at scbus5 target 0 lun 0 (pass3,da0) at scbus5 target 0 lun 1 (pass4,da1) at scbus5 target 0 lun 2 (pass5,da2) at scbus5 target 0 lun 3 (pass6,da3) at scbus6 target 0 lun 0 (pass7,da4) at scbus6 target 0 lun 1 (pass8,cd2) at scbus6 target 0 lun 2 (ses0,pass9) I am not trying to boot "from" the memory stick, just boot when the usb card reader is plugged into the usb3 interface. When it is not plugged in it's fast reboot, when it's plugged in it takes like 20 minutes. The SanDisk device is supposedly usb3.0, but i agree it's curious thing about the 1.0 listed in the camcontrol device list... I see what you are saying about the manual. AFAIK you need uhci/ohci for usb 1.0, ehci for 2.0 and xhci for 3.0, but i have not tried disabling the uhci/ohci/ehci to see what happens. I run 10.0-CURRENT on my laptop, I seem to remember there was a time when I could not plug 2.0 devices into 3.0 slot but that works now. At the time when I was experimenting with that it seemed like it would 'switch' from xhci to ehci depending on the type of device plugged in, and that wasn't happening (then).. it does work now so something obviously updated in HEAD, but it's been awhile since i've messed around with it. I am going to get another 3.0 card reader. When I went to frys the other night the sandisk was the only choice. Also the via chipset was the only choice at frys. (I've read other posts claiming the via chipset can be flakey, that NEC is much better, but so far I haven't noticed any problems (in a couple days, anyway - it's true i haven't yet tried to push a bunch of data through it)) ... i don't think it's the pci interface causing my slow boot problem. Might have to find one on ebay or newegg. What I intend to do is get four card readers, and gut them and mount them into a single carriage, so I can read 4 SD/SDHC cards simultaneously, or at least put all four in and have the machine grab the data from each one automatically. So I don't have to get up! This would save me alot of time, since I typically use 4 cards when I film a 2 hour show. When you're doing this several times a week the time adds up, and i don't have alot of extra time. Thanks for your help. Waitman -- Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 17:19:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32C567A for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xavierfreebsdquestions@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com (mail-qa0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793F2931 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id o13so2092180qaj.3 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:19:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jicZ2//Waz7G6L1HqdVWNnlXzxFWPPMT5apl8sQVUaI=; b=eWSZut34qHopOUl5+VojyDDx8qiUebfZPaVAEhUjX+Tm4QKmI8fpEP2zKjHG8VFXP8 kzt561n2G+QMhPkwjFaviQOrpI+YpVhNFZ4z4cpfIV4IxHes9Ptv9ArvCP5wfcd5X18u ZFhF9LJqZMu9hqNUfGYALoV0SYq2dZ/CU31VY8cBdGUbqTKZSKjRKbgyNqPMrMIDXuAz JqRzFZUBIe5ERm7nXBraQcdCNZZ4jQeHrDEIVydUkOxWfv6S+IEL2pmJLcwxJspTDo2j P3PqtaWTz7amG5GGvPL9hUwejLuL9bUSwZJQ/8WP6YeeLUaa+bvK1uK1Da2MZoyHo+EF yuKA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.72.136 with SMTP id d8mr15638043qev.62.1358615979107; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:19:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.227 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:19:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130119170436.e9dc8606.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20130119151358.535d6b9f@fabiankeil.de> <20130119170436.e9dc8606.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:19:39 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: laptop fan control via FreeBSD From: Xavier To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:19:45 -0000 On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 05:04:36PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: Hi Polytropon, > On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:55:23 +0100, Xavier wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:13:58PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote: > > > > Hi Fabian, > > > > > Xavier wrote: > > > > > > > Is there any way to control the on and off the fan on a laptop using FreeBSD? > > > > > > It depends on the laptop. On mine it works: > > > > > > fk@r500 ~ $sysctl -ad | grep fan > > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: Fan speed > > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: Fan level > > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: Fan enable > > > > > > > My output of 'sysctl -ad | grep fan' don't show these parameters. Why ? > > Because, my BIOS don't support these aparameters ? Another answer ? > > For laptops, you usually load a kernel module for interfacing > with the specific ACPI functions, like acpi_ibm.ko. There are > several others, but see "man acpi_ibm" for some impressions. > Yes, but I have an acer Aspire 5634WLMi, and: % ls /boot/kernel/acpi* /boot/kernel/acpi_asus.ko /boot/kernel/acpi_panasonic.ko /boot/kernel/acpi_asus.ko.symbols /boot/kernel/acpi_panasonic.ko.symbols /boot/kernel/acpi_dock.ko /boot/kernel/acpi_sony.ko /boot/kernel/acpi_dock.ko.symbols /boot/kernel/acpi_sony.ko.symbols /boot/kernel/acpi_fujitsu.ko /boot/kernel/acpi_toshiba.ko /boot/kernel/acpi_fujitsu.ko.symbols /boot/kernel/acpi_toshiba.ko.symbols /boot/kernel/acpi_hp.ko /boot/kernel/acpi_video.ko /boot/kernel/acpi_hp.ko.symbols /boot/kernel/acpi_video.ko.symbols /boot/kernel/acpi_ibm.ko /boot/kernel/acpi_wmi.ko /boot/kernel/acpi_ibm.ko.symbols /boot/kernel/acpi_wmi.ko.symbols I don't have an acer kernel module for ACPI. Thanks, see you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 17:50:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0393DCAA for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xavierfreebsdquestions@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qc0-f174.google.com (mail-qc0-f174.google.com [209.85.216.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0ECA22 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id z24so211690qcq.19 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:50:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KtxlqVV69vcpt+y1/9YbVspTN/bA5AFXiiQH2iobyRw=; b=nRzomXXE2uZCLq+wW7dyGDicWRfno0sfE3O7yppyTfSLp1dQJyL6oNOwY+ubvNtf0A f+lNDT+TuUsRvGFcpgGQ5LYiwQtbIg1UQKzJ44K42ROx4UdLSzrl3kuULbyJijBZvzOq 8/mxxVkxb47kOgdIWzQbm9VAGxVaLdsOjwpsOoWE6r0hDNnelPCdxhKAioUxtcIt9pNI XexwwTHa9Igi3mbvg8Md3/HfIEvsHIx1xYKRlmGVtRPOdUTSqTy6vA+O/xDd0Cm34pQp jsQ28pzKPigmLGbnmBtdiVjPYWEwS44m+IE5iwqsXhqAgXr0nbUxQZVTZSBBtGDgi3aS KGvw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.181.135 with SMTP id by7mr13521956qab.51.1358616349607; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.40.227 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:25:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130119170707.1aa3a8ee@fabiankeil.de> References: <20130119151358.535d6b9f@fabiankeil.de> <20130119170707.1aa3a8ee@fabiankeil.de> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:25:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: laptop fan control via FreeBSD From: Xavier To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:50:26 -0000 On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 05:07:07PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote: Hi Fabian, > Xavier wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:13:58PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote: > > > > Hi Fabian, > > > > > Xavier wrote: > > > > > > > Is there any way to control the on and off the fan on a laptop using FreeBSD? > > > > > > It depends on the laptop. On mine it works: > > > > > > fk@r500 ~ $sysctl -ad | grep fan > > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: Fan speed > > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: Fan level > > > dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: Fan enable > > > > > > > My output of 'sysctl -ad | grep fan' don't show these parameters. Why ? > > Because, my BIOS don't support these aparameters ? Another answer ? > > acpi_ibm(4) is a kernel module that isn't loaded by default. > > Depending on your hardware you may have to kldload a different > module. You could try: > > ls /boot/kernel/acpi_*.ko Yes, but I hace an acer ... Thanks, see you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 18:27:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D86DB for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:27:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f45.google.com (mail-bk0-f45.google.com [209.85.214.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7EAB16 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:27:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f45.google.com with SMTP id jk13so2476762bkc.18 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:27:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=glnKE5yKPVywr3+GwyInhoQQvAZb/uWzfu+qUUG3aoo=; b=McYfIQOXx5h+C8KGV0ltlc3wz3iyttWEtfsgtELWD67AzNpcVIaNb3qBIEKX3wsYMQ GMrWxrgfec29S+K3VIXRCBPFFMMNHbw9ZBWD6ewZHVdqDRt54mM9R/9y0j3hb7nSrFRU xgqxqn7+RcHJtcR7uBSJe0cHvhM0AsiTG/Z6rvBuTnxdQ6nsINZzINgw4k5GhwLmhFpm siCWghDYylZk1VsTpXPek7+9JY4sLcwDLJCxXR28LSAP9GPXWGILGVK6Nnxl/XE9QJYh ij758wX9JFx3fqFwD1Aa9Us0M9FPMWCLOTnl6do0V9nBru2hosZW1Ca46/VvBDUo0afy 1n2A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.143.147 with SMTP id v19mr3464187bku.32.1358620028950; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:27:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.229.135 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:27:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20130119144218.GA66249@whisperer.chthonixia.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:27:08 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE w/ SanDisk ImageMate S11202 From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:27:11 -0000 On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Waitman Gobble wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Joe Altman wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:19:25PM -0800, Waitman Gobble wrote: >> > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Waitman Gobble > >wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I have a PCI Express card with VIA VL800 chipset which seems to work >> > OK with a Seagate drive, so I presume the interface is working. >> >> I think my question is relevant: >> >> Does the working drive mean that you have the proper USB bits in your >> kernel? >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/usb-disks.html >> >> 19.5.1 Configuration >> If you use a custom kernel, be sure that the following lines are present >> in your kernel configuration file: >> >> device scbus <== >> device da <== >> device pass <+= >> device uhci >> device ohci >> device ehci >> device usb >> device umass <== >> >> I don't see them mentioned below. >> >> > > If I boot with a SanDisk ImageMate S11202 plugged into the USB 3.0 >> card, >> > > the display shows messages about the SanDisk device, appears to >> properly >> > > identify it, and with like 'querying ...' slots on the card reader, >> which >> > > all fail - (there are no cards in the reader). Then the machine sails >> into >> > > outerspace, kind of just sits there until (perhaps) the end of time, >> or >> > > until I kill the power. It never gets the network interface up, so no >> ssh. >> >> > > kernel built with: >> > > >> > > device ahci # AHCI-compatible SATA controllers >> > > device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface >> > > device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface >> > > device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) >> > > device xhci # XHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 3.0) >> >> General question: >> >> The man page is ambiguous to me; does it mean that one only needs xhci >> for all three versions, or must one specify all? >> >> DESCRIPTION >> The xhci driver provides support for the USB eXtensible Host >> Controller Interface, which allows use of USB 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 >> devices on the same USB port. >> >> Such that xhci can handle *all* such USB devices? >> >> Also, ahci has a number of sysctl knobs for interrupts. Maybe that is a >> path to resolving the issue? >> >> Regards, >> >> Joe >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > Hi, > > yes i have those options in the kernel config > > # ATA/SCSI peripherals > device scbus # SCSI bus (required for ATA/SCSI) > device ch # SCSI media changers > device da # Direct Access (disks) > device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) > device cd # CD > device pass # Passthrough device (direct ATA/SCSI > access) > device ses # Enclosure Services (SES and SAF-TE) > device ctl # CAM Target Layer > > # USB support > options USB_DEBUG # enable debug msgs > > device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface > device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface > device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) > device xhci # XHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 3.0) > device usb # USB Bus (required) > #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices (needs > netgraph) > device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" > device ukbd # Keyboard > #device ulpt # Printer > device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and > da > device ums # Mouse > #device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player > > I have turned off usb printer, double bulk pipe device, and all the usb > wireless and ethernet interfaces. > > # camcontrol devlist > at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (ada0,pass0) > at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,cd0) > at scbus1 target 1 lun 0 (pass2,cd1) > at scbus5 target 0 lun 0 (pass3,da0) > at scbus5 target 0 lun 1 (pass4,da1) > at scbus5 target 0 lun 2 (pass5,da2) > at scbus5 target 0 lun 3 (pass6,da3) > at scbus6 target 0 lun 0 (pass7,da4) > at scbus6 target 0 lun 1 (pass8,cd2) > at scbus6 target 0 lun 2 (ses0,pass9) > > > I am not trying to boot "from" the memory stick, just boot when the usb > card reader is plugged into the usb3 interface. When it is not plugged in > it's fast reboot, when it's plugged in it takes like 20 minutes. > > The SanDisk device is supposedly usb3.0, but i agree it's curious thing > about the 1.0 listed in the camcontrol device list... > > I see what you are saying about the manual. AFAIK you need uhci/ohci for > usb 1.0, ehci for 2.0 and xhci for 3.0, but i have not tried disabling the > uhci/ohci/ehci to see what happens. I run 10.0-CURRENT on my laptop, I seem > to remember there was a time when I could not plug 2.0 devices into 3.0 > slot but that works now. At the time when I was experimenting with that it > seemed like it would 'switch' from xhci to ehci depending on the type of > device plugged in, and that wasn't happening (then).. it does work now so > something obviously updated in HEAD, but it's been awhile since i've messed > around with it. > > I am going to get another 3.0 card reader. When I went to frys the other > night the sandisk was the only choice. Also the via chipset was the only > choice at frys. (I've read other posts claiming the via chipset can be > flakey, that NEC is much better, but so far I haven't noticed any problems > (in a couple days, anyway - it's true i haven't yet tried to push a bunch > of data through it)) ... i don't think it's the pci interface causing my > slow boot problem. Might have to find one on ebay or newegg. > > What I intend to do is get four card readers, and gut them and mount them > into a single carriage, so I can read 4 SD/SDHC cards simultaneously, or at > least put all four in and have the machine grab the data from each one > automatically. So I don't have to get up! This would save me alot of time, > since I typically use 4 cards when I film a 2 hour show. When you're doing > this several times a week the time adds up, and i don't have alot of extra > time. > > Thanks for your help. > > Waitman > > > > > -- > Waitman Gobble > San Jose California USA > 510-830-7975 > Here's dmesg where it's sitting for 15 minutes waiting for something... (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): Retrying command (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): Retrying command (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): Retrying command (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): Retrying command (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): CAM status: CCB request completed with an error (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted {{WAIT FOR 15 MINUTES, THEN:}} Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0a [rw]... fuse4bsd: version 0.3.9-pre1, FUSE ABI 7.19 re0: link state changed to UP I'm trying to figure out how to understand what umass-sim2:2:0:0 refers to. # dmesg | grep umass-sim cd2 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus6 target 0 lun 1 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus5 target 0 lun 0 da4 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 ses0 at umass-sim1 bus 1 scbus6 target 0 lun 2 da1 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus5 target 0 lun 1 da2 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus5 target 0 lun 2 da3 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus5 target 0 lun 3 (probe0:umass-sim2:2:0:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0 {{etc.}} dmesg shows the da0,da1,da2,da3 on ("at") umass-sim0.. There's some interesting info in /usr/src/sys/cam/README.quirks which might fix my "waiting" problem, like maybe NO_TEST_UNIT_READY, FORCE_SHORT_INQUIRY, NO_INQUIRY.. it would be cool to test it out. but i'm not so knowledgeable about understanding which device umass-sim2:2:0:0 is referencing... anyone have an idea? Thank you. -- Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA 510-830-7975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 19:40:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474E196A for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:40:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm25-vm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm25-vm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FC4DE3 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.52] by nm25.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2013 19:40:25 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.67] by tm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2013 19:40:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp147.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jan 2013 19:40:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1358624425; bh=FHVdLfARvYt5o+x49AKcEkL5xRUEU8/Wm/3LIXbPBug=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=tKiTXrXem18abh29oXr020lcN5rVzTmSzCiD+0mGpu6VIXvJhAZ42wXt40VUj/qfOIDDPKsvki0pGrpBnhBwMB7dmf3RyCJLFwQmDVEIh9YgjZGAnC5PgjNrUTGeW7nGau+lg87thiOx7qzyYY2hXPql/Ipba7Ld1hSAp7G82RU= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 158057.12434.bm@smtp147.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 9n_PddIVM1lQN1hkMlVNAu4blsUV0j1TFVEflrN9Vl63ffV BTgg7YrmcG0OIMUkZMml0NsSeKE_0KbA_etD8tgfajSY6vL2xejD1eXqTiOt FEk7V_o7qJDfRB1A6GXRpR7llwzFlkg3PKADx_evkH4Ko75cYL9UraJRvnrH Ht3SLRh9RgP8.9Pl_zTW1u9yhlM_tL9vIOssTZfap_9lbU.L5aqU7aVH_GV3 skPuV1P08aNLdtifcqh1ajMH0w9qlL0l8axV1V.YMSLkq37zwVvrxaPCRoye wePrKGSFWJ5QU6k56Sbw9bAI6O_3B8v68zbaq.6WqMEW7Yw9x0e3r2CCRONH zakDYSA4wSNxxLaGfd6mFErPhuhgTiru.2ZMcYt3_N1rb1kSvnV6sDk39DJi 7kAXMlkEZDAh01FmC1wE.mLVJbwLtOCfzx6Vs3L9E2.IxUQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from freebsd (ralf.mardorf@92.224.210.132 with login) by smtp147.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2013 11:40:25 -0800 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "FreeBSD quest" Subject: Re: Dependencies after port tree update References: <20130118055051.3dd2a12a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130118165130.73cea17d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130118172040.3e051cb6.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:40:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable From: "Ralf Mardorf" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130118172040.3e051cb6.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.61 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:40:34 -0000 I now run the command with what options ever, don't remember, but it's = compiling and every few hours I have to answer n/y to delete a file, but= = there aren't stops regarding to the configuration. I'm compiling since = yesterday 17 or 18 o'clock, perhaps -8 hours where it might stopped = regarding to such a question, when I didn't notice it. It's an Athlon = dual-core 2.1GHz with 4GB RAM, since I didn't edit anything, I suspect = just one job is running. 837 ports where found with 420 new versions. I = = wonder how long it will continue compiling. :D -- = No good deed ever goes unpunished. Einer guten Tat folgt die Strafe auf dem Fu=C3=9Fe! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 19 20:21:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D8AC86 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072FDEDA for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 19 Jan 2013 15:21:53 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA) with ESMTP id BWV91408; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:21:52 -0500 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=209.6.84.183; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: Neutral identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.6.84.183; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=209.6.84.183; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="postmaster@jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received: from 209-6-84-183.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.84.183]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 19 Jan 2013 15:21:52 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20731.95.562005.496391@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:21:51 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: problem building swt-devel X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:21:54 -0000 [I've mailed the maintainer, java@, and ports@, and had either no response or one which didn't help solve the problem. questions@ is my last, best hope .... ] On a system running: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Dec 30 12:52:09 EST 2012 amd64 I am trying to build x11-toolkits/swt-devel as a dependency for another port. If I compile using clang, I get: [exec] rc = (jint)((SWT_XREInitEmbedding)arg0)((nsILocalFile *)arg1, (nsILocalFile *)arg2, (nsIDirectoryServiceProvider *)arg3, (nsStaticModuleInfo const *)arg4, arg5); [exec] ^ [exec] ./xpcom.h:41:103: note: expanded from macro 'SWT_XREInitEmbedding' [exec] #define SWT_XREInitEmbedding nsresult (*)(nsILocalFile *,nsILocalFile *,nsIDirectoryServiceProvider *,nsStaticModuleInfo const *,PRUint32) [exec] ^ [exec] xpcom.cpp:58:15: error: expected ')' [exec] rc = (jint)((SWT_XREInitEmbedding)arg0)((nsILocalFile *)arg1, (nsILocalFile *)arg2, (nsIDirectoryServiceProvider *)arg3, (nsStaticModuleInfo const *)arg4, arg5); [exec] *** [xpcomxul.o] Error code 1 ^ [exec] [exec] [exec] Stop in /data/port-work/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/swt-devel/work../xpcom.h:41:122: note: expanded from macro 'SWT_XREInitEmbedding' [exec] [exec] #define SWT_XREInitEmbedding nsresult (*)(nsILocalFile *,nsILocalFile *,nsIDirectoryServiceProvider *,nsStaticModuleInfo const *,PRUint32) [exec] ^ [exec] xpcom.cpp:58:15: note: to match this '(' [exec] rc = (jint)((SWT_XREInitEmbedding)arg0)((nsILocalFile *)arg1, (nsILocalFile *)arg2, (nsIDirectoryServiceProvider *)arg3, (nsStaticModuleInfo const *)arg4, arg5); [exec] ^ [exec] ./xpcom.h:41:42: note: expanded from macro 'SWT_XREInitEmbedding' [exec] #define SWT_XREInitEmbedding nsresult (*)(nsILocalFile *,nsILocalFile *,nsIDirectoryServiceProvider *,nsStaticModuleInfo const *,PRUint32) [exec] ^ [exec] xpcom.cpp:58:124: error: use of undeclared identifier 'nsStaticModuleInfo' [exec] rc = (jint)((SWT_XREInitEmbedding)arg0)((nsILocalFile *)arg1, (nsILocalFile *)arg2, (nsIDirectoryServiceProvider *)arg3, (nsStaticModuleInfo const *)arg4, arg5); [exec] ^ [exec] 4 errors generated. BUILD FAILED /data/port-work/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/swt-devel/work/build.xml:62: exec returned: 1 With gcc (either 4.2 or 4.6) it's: ===> Building for swt-devel-3.7.1_1,1 Buildfile: /data/port-work/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/swt-devel/work/build.xml init: build.classes: [javac] /data/port-work/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/swt-devel/work/build.xml:32: warning: 'includeantruntime' was not set, defaulting to build.sysclasspath=last; set to false for repeatable builds [javac] Compiling 594 source files to /data/port-work/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/swt-devel/work/classes [javac] warning: [options] bootstrap class path not set in conjunction with -source 1.4 [javac] 1 warning build.nativeLibraries: [exec] Can't find /data/port-work/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/swt-devel/work/../../components/external.idl [exec] Building SWT OS=freebsd SWT ARCH=amd64 [exec] libgnomeui-2.0 found, compiling SWT program support using GNOME [exec] Cairo found, compiling SWT support for the cairo graphics library. [exec] Using libxul for gecko support [exec] *** WebKit embedding support will not be compiled, causes build to fail. [exec] *** (temporary workaround until a better solution can be found) [exec] libjawt.so found, the SWT/AWT integration library will be compiled. [exec] Building SWT/GTK+ for freebsd amd64 [exec] g++46 -o xpcomxul.o -O -DSWT_VERSION=3738 -DMOZILLA_STRICT_API=1 -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fPIC -I. -I/usr/local/openjdk7/include -I/usr/local/openjdk7/include/freebsd -DJNI64 -DNO__1NS_1InitXPCOM2 -I/usr/local/include/nspr -DXPCOM_GLUE -I/usr/local/include/libxul -c xpcom.cpp [exec] In file included from /usr/local/include/libxul/nsEmbedString.h:43:0, [exec] from xpcom.h:19, [exec] from xpcom_structs.h:12, [exec] from xpcom.cpp:13: [exec] /usr/local/include/libxul/nsStringAPI.h:1101:3: error: 'char16_t' was not declared in this scope [exec] xpcom.cpp: In function 'jint Java_org_eclipse_swt_internal_mozilla_XPCOM__1Call__JJJJJI(JNIEnv*, jclass, jlong, jlong, jlong, jlong, jlong, jint)': [exec] xpcom.cpp:58:15: error: expected primary-expression before '(' token [exec] xpcom.cpp:58:15: error: expected primary-expression before ')' token [exec] xpcom.cpp:58:15: error: expected primary-expression before '*' token [exec] xpcom.cpp:58:15: error: expected primary-expression before ',' token [exec] xpcom.cpp:58:15: error: expected primary-expression before '*' token [exec] xpcom.cpp:58:15: error: expected primary-expression before ',' token [exec] xpcom.cpp:58:15: error: expected primary-expression before '*' token [exec] xpcom.cpp:58:15: error: expected primary-expression before ',' token [exec] xpcom.cpp:58:15: error: 'nsStaticModuleInfo' was not declared in this scope [exec] xpcom.cpp:58:15: error: expected primary-expression before ')' token [exec] xpcom.cpp:58:36: error: expected ')' before 'arg0' [exec] *** [xpcomxul.o] Error code 1 [exec] [exec] Stop in /data/port-work/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/swt-devel/work. BUILD FAILED /data/port-work/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/swt-devel/work/build.xml:62: exec returned: 1 I re-installed www/libxul, and nothing changed. Receimination phase - if any - will happen after this gets fixed. Help, please! Respectfully, Robert Huff