From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 3 01:43:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22705F01 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 01:43:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-x232.google.com (mail-ia0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6351D41 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 01:43:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f178.google.com with SMTP id y26so3766872iab.37 for ; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 17:43:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vBvZ9sCwtmGNblu3n131wRVA8seyCmkBRzO6cZVRE70=; b=Rt1QEMJFqjJoGm8jziASotqNDn69vYDCq6FNWgpsRxBqeNsg2OeVh9zvql2GQVKarO WZVD/cMWSOSdrjV+1wHCGp6w8bR8bfYkc/kcCyI0FOT//NWBHNvxBn+kbJymQvZ6fYgZ 5Wde8V97FgbSc7JfaSdhLt2zPbTjSCqMomOAoXBRdfj/3zgB62bSBQJl+8u3tOpgIfI7 d6JOPTyfSPgyPp+BHqG04fJGv3ekaHAG8opjW6EW/AFfg9Oer0VKrBReLYpeedfXUqS2 gg76ICeh9lZnNnP/IHdroILGq6hJXU3oUQ6NTlmgDAEmxVG0Cnmbnrj8tvufLPdf553R xUVw== X-Received: by 10.43.111.201 with SMTP id ep9mr18245835icc.43.1362275035642; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 17:43:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (c-98-212-197-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qn10sm4354434igc.6.2013.03.02.17.43.54 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Mar 2013 17:43:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5132AAD6.5060301@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 19:43:50 -0600 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rm -R References: <51321FAE.2010803@webrz.net> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EBE870@ltcfiswmsgmb21> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 01:43:56 -0000 On 3/2/2013 2:43 PM, David Tilbrook wrote: > The problem (and its solution) have been > raised for at least 39 years. But google and other search engines treats words([A-Za-z0-9]) starting with - as meaning exclude results with this, even when obvious it's about unix commands. It can be rather annoying when searching for help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 3 02:29:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22BA8E9 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 02:29:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85969E8D for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 02:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ethic.thought.org ([209.180.213.209]) by p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 6qTM1l0044XeM0101qTMfR; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 19:27:22 -0700 Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 18:27:15 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Joshua Isom Subject: Re: rm -R Message-ID: <20130303022715.GA913@ethic.thought.org> References: <51321FAE.2010803@webrz.net> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EBE870@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <5132AAD6.5060301@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5132AAD6.5060301@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 02:29:58 -0000 On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 07:43:50PM -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: > On 3/2/2013 2:43 PM, David Tilbrook wrote: > >The problem (and its solution) have been > >raised for at least 39 years. > > But google and other search engines treats words([A-Za-z0-9]) > starting with - as meaning exclude results with this, even when > obvious it's about unix commands. It can be rather annoying when > searching for help. > _______________________________________________ sorry to be so dense; can you give me a few concrete examples? ya lost me! tx.... > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Twenty-six years of service to the Unix community. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 3 03:08:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76F4D7C for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 03:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6693FFFD for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 03:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-109-47.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.109.47]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF40278B0; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 04:08:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2338Dcr001886; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 04:08:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 04:08:13 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: rm -R Message-Id: <20130303040813.eeec9530.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130303022715.GA913@ethic.thought.org> References: <51321FAE.2010803@webrz.net> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EBE870@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <5132AAD6.5060301@gmail.com> <20130303022715.GA913@ethic.thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 03:08:11 -0000 On Sat, 2 Mar 2013 18:27:15 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 07:43:50PM -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: > > On 3/2/2013 2:43 PM, David Tilbrook wrote: > > >The problem (and its solution) have been > > >raised for at least 39 years. > > > > But google and other search engines treats words([A-Za-z0-9]) > > starting with - as meaning exclude results with this, even when > > obvious it's about unix commands. It can be rather annoying when > > searching for help. > > _______________________________________________ > > > sorry to be so dense; can you give me a few concrete examples? ya > lost me! Just as one of many examples, google for "find -name" (without the quotes of course), a typical combination which the "AND NEAR" search should return sufficient results for. Compare the list of results to what you would expect. Now, google for "find -name" _including_ the quotes (!) in order to have google treat the search string literally. The results will be different, as you would expect. In ye olde times when search engine meant altavista.digital.com (if I remember correctly), search strings usually needed to include + (AND) and - (AND NOT) if you wanted to construct a search term consisting of more than one word. With google implying a "+ prefix" for every search word _and_ assuming they should be as near as possible to each other (therefor the name "AND NEAR" for the kind of search) this became obsolete. Almost, as it seems... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i10sm4599662igz.9.2013.03.02.19.18.55 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Mar 2013 19:18:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5132C11B.4050808@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 21:18:51 -0600 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: rm -R References: <51321FAE.2010803@webrz.net> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EBE870@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <5132AAD6.5060301@gmail.com> <20130303022715.GA913@ethic.thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20130303022715.GA913@ethic.thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 03:18:57 -0000 On 3/2/2013 8:27 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 07:43:50PM -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: >> On 3/2/2013 2:43 PM, David Tilbrook wrote: >>> The problem (and its solution) have been >>> raised for at least 39 years. >> >> But google and other search engines treats words([A-Za-z0-9]) >> starting with - as meaning exclude results with this, even when >> obvious it's about unix commands. It can be rather annoying when >> searching for help. >> _______________________________________________ > > > sorry to be so dense; can you give me a few concrete examples? ya > lost me! > > tx.... > Start with basics, http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=rm+-rf now find something relevant even though `rm -rf` is so common under unix. Oddly, `rm -S` gives the wikipedia webpage first. It doesn't mention anything about -- or using ./ to delete files. The man page lists is, so the "true" documentation is sound, but if you're looking on the internet you have to know how to search. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 3 03:25:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E56D4 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 03:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CC511B for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 03:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-109-47.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.109.47]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7543CEEA; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 04:17:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r233HhBP001925; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 04:17:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 04:17:42 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: rm -R Message-Id: <20130303041742.d445f674.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201303022246.r22MjUfO034030@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <51323A76.2040203@webrz.net> <201303022246.r22MjUfO034030@fire.js.berklix.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 03:25:07 -0000 On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 23:45:30 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi, > Reference: > > From: Jos Chrispijn > > Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 18:44:22 +0100 > > Message-id: <51323A76.2040203@webrz.net> > > Jos Chrispijn wrote: > > > > Teske, Devin: > > > rm -R -- -S > > > > > > The "--" tells it "here's the end of the options, here come the file/directories" > > > > Almost: > > > > rm -R -- -S; > > > > did it, thanks very much for you help! > > This also works > rmdir ./-S > (& is probably the best generic naming method, & was valid decades > ago, before rm got the luxury of modern stuff eg -- & would work > for other commands that might not have delimieters such as -- ) > This also work but is over kill : > rmdir './-S' Just note that the ; has been part of the name in question, so the "end of command" sign would have to be part of the directory name: "rmdir ./-S;" and "rmdir './-S;' would be the alternatives to "rm -R -- -S;". I'd be interested in what happens when you have such a directory name and press PF8 in the Midnight Commander in order to delete it. Now go ahead and create a file "*" in / and tell a junior sysadmin to remove it. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 3 05:01:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AE9F66 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 05:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED683A5 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 05:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id r23514el080366 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 2 Mar 2013 21:01:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id r235146u080365; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 21:01:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA18056; Sat, 2 Mar 13 20:53:49 PST Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 20:53:44 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) To: jrisom@gmail.com Subject: Re: rm -R Message-Id: <5132c948.kFZOe3OEy+VGm3JP%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <51321FAE.2010803@webrz.net> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201EBE870@ltcfiswmsgmb21> <5132AAD6.5060301@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5132AAD6.5060301@gmail.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 05:01:05 -0000 Joshua Isom wrote: > But google and other search engines treats words([A-Za-z0-9]) > starting with - as meaning exclude results with this, even when > obvious it's about unix commands. It can be rather annoying > when searching for help. This comment suggests a new translation of GNU: Google's Not Unix (although it may well be _hosted on_ a Unix variant). Absent some very advanced AI, nothing is "obvious" to a computer :) The "-" character means different things in different environments. When you know what command is needed, the manpage is usually the best reference. Save the search engines for when you _don't_ know which command to use -- and even then you probably should try "man -k" or "apropos" first. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 3 08:35:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22335890 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 08:35:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qe0-f46.google.com (mail-qe0-f46.google.com [209.85.128.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C432EA93 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 08:35:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f46.google.com with SMTP id a11so3217751qen.5 for ; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:34:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1GICVikAw4aNMOBtNvsRGuRUGeNQkjkfUNlJARPCYEk=; b=NxUzW5nDdm7dmClNRv/h8dWAtEMK3rz7YVMESsBCJmnmqWO7Fmobudiz+iQ9ei7oHZ XzBVRDlTonbyV7sZyA9VoA8J7wFzDlmSh0ctR4f+4sUoEhMbvkhBnE3ZPwHCuvG4jR4f 2q+snBAoO5lRp2PPtZ+Nc+7Tmx6UcbZF8XO4LYBeYg50CY8XU4zYxOYrJqAAjD2jDbPJ 0uoQ8o9/wQ6MAVquFYlMa9eW8DFj9aakxh79YrSrvRojxjhBc2lo2xpWRsAj+Xt7WfsR btpphPTSkxfVaA2ebPsDVQocdvOwjjjwszpgilRooQexVwpqqUgfWkioO0hquVWIvo8l 2Rkw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.222.15 with SMTP id ie15mr28408180qab.75.1362299697251; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:34:57 -0800 (PST) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.49.120.7 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 00:34:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.120.7 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 00:34:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130302180332.GA54872@sol> References: <20130227174137.cc0c9ad4.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130301183049.GB2161@sol> <20130302180332.GA54872@sol> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 09:34:57 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ql7cRD1y7TlhyF3KWCx5TMR_sjk Message-ID: Subject: Re: how to disable bluetooth From: CeDeROM To: kaltheat@googlemail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 08:35:04 -0000 Thank you Kaltheat! :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 3 20:52:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DE5D6 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 20:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f42.google.com (mail-ee0-f42.google.com [74.125.83.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FE0954 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 20:52:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f42.google.com with SMTP id b47so3383832eek.1 for ; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 12:52:41 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=b66Tafo5a5vMkCs1QdkB1goKbFLRIoNSsIzHIiWTGxI=; b=lmyF6EHlsyJrqeDOkeoVAcncxZlnUxCUNDqpCvRdbsypbL0er0oIfoz/UZLhK/DZRG oHJAjTvsQ3+xuTJAxS/D9+F8W3dTLX886O8KiDXYSLovXR2xGQGsDlFvrEEIiZX/sPuV tOz4uFeIXW6JV0cbQym4AcgZJZCRb5byENWO8FfRd9euWSxCPqYQzOnhSQLT10UpY9qS RKrCfQuXCuMcNeprd0uO7tIu3Gd/kiYfK/Mjri6XRpwvO7QD80rGO8ALxqWNInC/+CS0 0uFYvxrSYWswiDcbLcfUvJtR9DvWv/XRzTIs3rU3GgtqDkIhxI9gxtUZG4YyUq+76BuP tqAA== X-Received: by 10.14.3.70 with SMTP id 46mr51884201eeg.2.1362343961245; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 12:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.30.151] ([95.87.236.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q5sm28555578eep.11.2013.03.03.12.52.39 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Mar 2013 12:52:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5133B80F.3010101@aboutsupport.com> Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 22:52:31 +0200 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: h264 streaming and lighttpd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl7rxbUfwmLlp0OfrTDzE/hVCPXuH1eefssoCOXZIUyD4Bh2sNv0GOsGwIzHzhU47uqvfmb X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 20:52:43 -0000 Hi, Port /usr/ports/www/lighttpd-mod_h264_streaming seems broken. It installs just fine, lighttpd runs but at the moment I enable h264_streaming module it dies like this: kernel: pid 50660 (lighttpd), uid 80: exited on signal 11 Nothing in error log. Without the module lighttpd runs like charm. Configuration is default, not changes except port number, FreeBSD version: 8.3-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p3 Any hints ? Thanks, Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 3 22:59:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B0F647 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 22:59:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewpack54@yahoo.com) Received: from nm36-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm36-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60558D8A for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2013 22:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.137.12.59] by nm36.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2013 22:56:42 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.241] by tm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2013 22:56:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Mar 2013 22:56:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 814251.73199.bm@omp1049.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 75845 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Mar 2013 22:56:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1362351402; bh=QJU8CJHuPYQPHPt5E1gJSuEgVY0ZjudtZ+ncPLx+/ik=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OtviehR028ch27XVF3d+nhw6uped+XO2T9JJhTsC10QTxpdeLy7BTa5rEvUsMSjp63ednXby3LqhamY6lZCykU+Em6QoTCBkL5moZwPXb0IX3rPHDt1VMUpoYSGBmAYd6rppfgzcTK6T/0NsNYe8igwVEoaCYzcK6x1qFads58E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=av6blJDye8504SCaAXtyW5uW+i6cLkbJRse9lOshjoR/ARrbsglJPExI1HZZxnoicoYd3PEF+rkZ4F4Okwof61Ed0BgUYBbZStLgtx1cwuHwG289p+4agkxwKW/bU3kLpVTc48dTtYydU9MAz11ISvxzVy22yFD5TSbECbKIWEg=; X-YMail-OSG: U7CzvuAVM1mGYRe2FPq9n6VgiTODvWhO6cwfWmeOrXY2PF_ DKS5M67g0sTSi.a2iGqjM6vHbUdorGP1j3yuNkLSMgFAq_29QmgDPH_b4PQs Q9ixjC7nQTFANmS2w7oYW9lb4YUFqwqw6L2CfJJvEtxOgUjl7W6k2IglB298 GnfnqY.EHMQZX33i2seawgKXHC_vopd_Q.C2i68tRNXSWfsCJK8PRNIHY88f CdQDgHLLYnLW.kMEWd1vdtwmfR23bqUH7iNa6CWWuw4O2EMGyfHdh59jahRX fsWAcCroLj3ePiLwm.kCItVJCyaryCBJ1QM5PSRiqxr6bQiOA.rIXuSVP4CP Etae1MO7XRo5k9Sz2KncZBuiL9skRObEqhOL7wFtXFsiYbINq2_SqwNjKE_S Lbl6r5izXR_QPSsxPWbmgzP6eN6PY3cNpx6j5jdXB_S0pmsd3YQIlpjm8AhI lLF7WsOkAFnHIlhZMUNVo5x7et5vx9pMCHVwuQik_ Received: from [174.21.140.152] by web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:56:42 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001, RG9lcyBhbnlvbmUgaGF2ZSBhbnkgZXhwZXJpZW5jZSBydW5uaW5nIEZyZWVCU0Qgb24gdGhpcyBwbGF0Zm9ybT8gVW5sZXNzIEknbSBtaXN0YWtlbiwgSSBjb3VsZCd0IGZpbmQgaXQgbGlzdGVkIHVuZGVyIHRoZSBuZXcgcmVsZWFzZSBjb21wYXRpYmlsaXR5IGxpc3QuwqABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.135.514 Message-ID: <1362351402.61999.YahooMailNeo@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 14:56:42 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Pack Subject: VIA PV530 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Andrew Pack List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 22:59:34 -0000 Does anyone have any experience running FreeBSD on this platform? Unless I'= m mistaken, I could't find it listed under the new release compatibility li= st.=A0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 00:36:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29370233 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 00:36:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4F7E4 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 00:36:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-109-47.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.109.47]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F233CDE4 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 01:36:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r240a8jP076942 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 01:36:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 01:36:08 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Grepping though a disk Message-Id: <20130304013608.7981e8a9.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 00:36:06 -0000 Due to a fsck file system repair I lost the content of a file I consider important, but it hasn't been backed up yet. The file name is still present, but no blocks are associated (file size is zero). I hope the data blocks (which are now probably marked "unused") are still intact, so I thought I'd search for them because I can remember specific text that should have been in that file. As I don't need any fancy stuff like a progress bar, I decided to write a simple command, and I quickly got something up and running which I _assume_ will do what I need. This is the command I've been running interactively in bash: $ N=0; while true; do echo "${N}"; dd if=/dev/ad6 of=/dev/stdout bs=10240 count=1 skip=${N} 2>/dev/null | grep ""; if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then break; fi; N=`expr ${N} + 1`; done To make it look a bit better and illustrate the simple logic behind my idea: N=0 while true; do echo "${N}" dd if=/dev/ad6 of=/dev/stdout bs=10240 count=1 skip=${N} \ 2>/dev/null | grep "" if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then break fi N=`expr ${N} + 1` done Here refers to the text. It's only a small, but very distinctive portion. I'm searching in blocks of 10 kB so it's easier to continue in case something has been found. I plan to output the resulting "block" (it's not a real disk block, I know, it's simply a unit of 10 kB disk space) and maybe the previous and next one (in case the file, the _real_ block containing the data, has been split across more than one of those units. I will then clean the "garbage" (maybe from other files) because I can easily determine the beginning and the end of the file. Needless to say, it's a _text_ file. I understand that grep operates on text files, but it will also happily return 0 if the text to search for will appear in a binary file, and possibly return the whole file as a search result (in case there are no newlines in it). My questions: 1. Is this the proper way of stupidly searching a disk? 2. Is the block size (bs= parameter to dd) good, or should I use a different value for better performance? 3. Is there a program known that already implements the functionality I need in terms of data recovery? Results so far: The disk in question is a 1 TB SATA disk. The command has been running for more than 12 hours now and returned one false-positive result, so basically it seems to work, but maybe I can do better? I can always continue search by adding 1 to ${N}, set it as start value, and re-run the command. Any suggestion is welcome! -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 07:06:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B64DBD for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 07:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@aboutsupport.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17344F55 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 07:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id q16so2202494bkw.14 for ; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 23:06:44 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=LiBDSBr4+yZwr9TgmrbQmoX/dXgInkbZ4Mslah9aVe0=; b=GsRJs64hf3q+FX/SFSnreV87waZjqel7ThBtt3paLu97D5OZIzXlfJhrUbZfpDXfEw lTzfZFNtsZDviCEJuqkPEodSS9WvgOyyQUSMd1kN/dlKDMSG71Pu6QP5+Bpspc2+mcOA uCuSOcxvURxeNnVn5JeKNcCZuz5Y8YdkaAFhgH28thyC8NF22miy9OMqAlF460HZErBg 9LBwVuhs0I6QjOz1zIwTQcBj2eTjX06VnPTnfzqqoLzRnz+vU2aIXTXd2WKpuiOhdT2C 4ZLeWXmPVfqYhtGfRQOOp3k0b9zhsrSbE1uDYDfzXJmFzGTxfHwv5v7afG8WAPSfMeOb 7ujw== X-Received: by 10.204.8.156 with SMTP id h28mr6715808bkh.80.1362380804299; Sun, 03 Mar 2013 23:06:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.30.1.168] ([95.87.193.58]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z6sm5313495bkv.11.2013.03.03.23.06.42 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Mar 2013 23:06:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51344801.8030206@aboutsupport.com> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 09:06:41 +0200 From: "Zyumbilev, Peter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: unable to compile lighttpd form source Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlyvTo77r5N1SWBWkG+RR0fnEz60+88t+ZDj5W963Pow7xjPBjI4i8BSi2q7EBBWgchm/Ee X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 07:06:46 -0000 Hi, I am trying to follow instructions on this page: http://h264.code-shop.com/trac/wiki/Mod-H264-Streaming-Lighttpd-Version2 and compile lighttpd. [root@pistolmp01 ~/lighttpd-1.4.28]# ./autogen.sh ./autogen.sh: running `libtoolize --copy --force' libtoolize: putting auxiliary files in `.'. libtoolize: copying file `./ltmain.sh' libtoolize: putting macros in AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR, `m4'. libtoolize: copying file `m4/libtool.m4' libtoolize: copying file `m4/ltoptions.m4' libtoolize: copying file `m4/ltsugar.m4' libtoolize: copying file `m4/ltversion.m4' libtoolize: copying file `m4/lt~obsolete.m4' ./autogen.sh: running `aclocal -I m4' configure.ac:42: error: automatic de-ANSI-fication support has been removed /usr/local/share/aclocal-1.12/protos.m4:12: AM_C_PROTOTYPES is expanded from... configure.ac:42: the top level autom4te-2.69: /usr/local/bin/gm4 failed with exit status: 1 aclocal-1.12: error: /usr/local/bin/autom4te-2.69 failed with exit status: 1 System version is: FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p3 Please give me some hints as I am unable to install lighttpd with h264 streaming support from both ports and source on FreeBSD. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 08:25:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825A2673; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 08:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp.eutelia.it (mp1-smtp-6.eutelia.it [62.94.10.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFF33E6; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 08:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ns2.biolchim.it (ip-188-188.sn2.eutelia.it [83.211.188.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eutelia.it (Eutelia) with ESMTP id 41DF6646F0F; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:25:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-238-253.41-151.net24.it [151.41.253.238]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns2.biolchim.it (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r248PfcO079604 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:25:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.6/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r248PXHJ050423; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:25:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <51345A7D.6060408@netfence.it> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 09:25:33 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Remko Lodder Subject: Re: Old releases support References: <5131CA72.6040108@netfence.it> <92950455-2626-4961-A131-DECCB16D5ADC@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <92950455-2626-4961-A131-DECCB16D5ADC@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 10.1.2.13 X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ns2.biolchim.it [192.168.2.203]); Mon, 04 Mar 2013 09:25:42 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Score: 5.118 (*****) BAYES_50, RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL, RDNS_DYNAMIC Cc: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, secteam@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:25:54 -0000 On 03/02/13 19:32, Remko Lodder wrote: > I just removed 7.4/7-STABLE from the list and moved it to the 'unsupported' > section. > > Thanks for mentioning this! Thanks to you! Although I'm fine (I know what I asked for :-), I'll point out another little thing: 7.4 is still listed as "legacy" in the home and here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/. I guess it should go away there too. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 09:17:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBED363 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com (mail-ee0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6267DD for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id c13so3796832eek.0 for ; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:10:30 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to:x-gm-message-state; bh=hxRRR1LjIIWZerst7/7RbF/XvV9tkS6+I7VcSNSHrzA=; b=BQUhgOH4Rjdcf7Vuqljebc+At2uf4LJX+7QHqtRitAO4/SJvZLGjyl4Uc5/d87RHvk 0eTmBVxylNWna6Q2iHIYkFrsmsm55YR4Najuu1PcCi0esaPBmMNAKPUKjFHrOqnzF5Qx plvuMR8yEDMuWla3EEYJRaTCZn5CfNI3INz9eFfjgJREFoGGEmr45e8bmctLZNpQzFk4 P4e7RlvKsi0nyT3vM2qox31wzd9Q5rHy9w6jxGNfWbYO/FrrWUsYVXniJRK+xYB4mJr9 qS84h+7lZwF3ORht0U18WH1Wd2E2w7B6oqk/+7zDnJm8LVEdlBa/eKv+dq5W8ADX20+k cfRA== X-Received: by 10.14.1.130 with SMTP id 2mr56744687eed.15.1362388230657; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.187.242.156] ([92.90.16.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f47sm30876601eep.13.2013.03.04.01.10.14 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:10:24 -0800 (PST) References: <20130304013608.7981e8a9.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <20130304013608.7981e8a9.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8402144E-5ECB-44E9-99FB-0258C855FE7B@my.gd> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B144) From: Damien Fleuriot Subject: Re: Grepping though a disk Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:09:50 +0100 To: Polytropon X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnGXA8/BCxB3sbgwcwvBP4TlUMS1EKCiWZwDpTXfUgMw8dXWKEwYbk8ec+9NIurWaNty0Q5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 09:17:00 -0000 On 4 Mar 2013, at 01:36, Polytropon wrote: > Due to a fsck file system repair I lost the content of a file > I consider important, but it hasn't been backed up yet. The > file name is still present, but no blocks are associated > (file size is zero). I hope the data blocks (which are now > probably marked "unused") are still intact, so I thought > I'd search for them because I can remember specific text > that should have been in that file. >=20 > As I don't need any fancy stuff like a progress bar, I > decided to write a simple command, and I quickly got > something up and running which I _assume_ will do what > I need. >=20 > This is the command I've been running interactively in bash: >=20 > $ N=3D0; while true; do echo "${N}"; dd if=3D/dev/ad6 of=3D/dev/stdout b= s=3D10240 count=3D1 skip=3D${N} 2>/dev/null | grep ""; if [ $? -eq 0= ]; then break; fi; N=3D`expr ${N} + 1`; done >=20 > To make it look a bit better and illustrate the simple > logic behind my idea: >=20 > N=3D0 > while true; do > echo "${N}" > dd if=3D/dev/ad6 of=3D/dev/stdout bs=3D10240 count=3D1 skip=3D${N} \= > 2>/dev/null | grep "" > if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then > break > fi > N=3D`expr ${N} + 1` > done >=20 > Here refers to the text. It's only a small, but > very distinctive portion. I'm searching in blocks of 10 kB > so it's easier to continue in case something has been found. > I plan to output the resulting "block" (it's not a real disk > block, I know, it's simply a unit of 10 kB disk space) and > maybe the previous and next one (in case the file, the _real_ > block containing the data, has been split across more than > one of those units. I will then clean the "garbage" (maybe > from other files) because I can easily determine the beginning > and the end of the file. >=20 > Needless to say, it's a _text_ file. >=20 > I understand that grep operates on text files, but it will > also happily return 0 if the text to search for will appear > in a binary file, and possibly return the whole file as a > search result (in case there are no newlines in it). >=20 > My questions: >=20 > 1. Is this the proper way of stupidly searching a disk? >=20 > 2. Is the block size (bs=3D parameter to dd) good, or should > I use a different value for better performance? >=20 > 3. Is there a program known that already implements the > functionality I need in terms of data recovery? >=20 > Results so far: >=20 > The disk in question is a 1 TB SATA disk. The command has > been running for more than 12 hours now and returned one > false-positive result, so basically it seems to work, but > maybe I can do better? I can always continue search by > adding 1 to ${N}, set it as start value, and re-run the > command. >=20 > Any suggestion is welcome! >=20 >=20 Hey that's actually a pretty creative way of doing things ;) Just to make sure, you've stopped daemons and all the stuff that could poten= tially write to the drive and nuke your blocks right ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 09:47:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A844BC13 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A6494A for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743D13B3C5 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 01:47:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Confused by restore(8) man page example Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:47:24 -0800 Message-ID: <4861.1362390444@server1.tristatelogic.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 09:47:40 -0000 In the man page for restore(8) I see the following: The -r flag ... can be detrimental to one's health if not used carefully (not to mention the disk). An example: newfs /dev/da0s1a mount /dev/da0s1a /mnt cd /mnt restore rf /dev/sa0 Personally, I utterly fail to see what point the author is attempting to illustrate with the above example. I mean what part of this, exactly, may be "detrimental to one's health" ? It's an enigma to me. All I see is a pre-existing BSD partition being explicitly newfs'ed and then mounted, followed by some stuff being restored to that (clean) BSD partition from whatever is currently sitting on the tape drive called /dev/sa0. So? What possible problem could derive from merely that? I don't see any. What's the problem? I'm confused. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 09:57:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6B1D36 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tamino@wolfhut.org) Received: from pendor.wolfhut.org (pendor.wolfhut.org [173.228.91.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8179999A for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.42.100] (173-228-91-224.static.sonic.net [173.228.91.224]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pendor.wolfhut.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6414DBB1A; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 01:57:28 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: Confused by restore(8) man page example From: Ben Cottrell In-Reply-To: <4861.1362390444@server1.tristatelogic.com> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 01:57:28 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <63618304-837E-4B76-8157-D99C744AC72F@wolfhut.org> References: <4861.1362390444@server1.tristatelogic.com> To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 09:57:36 -0000 On Mar 4, 2013, at 01:47, "Ronald F. Guilmette" = wrote: > All I see is a pre-existing BSD partition being explicitly newfs'ed = and > then mounted, followed by some stuff being restored to that (clean) > BSD partition from whatever is currently sitting on the tape drive > called /dev/sa0. >=20 > So? What possible problem could derive from merely that? I don't see > any. I guess the same text in the man page could be read several different ways! The way I read it (which may or may not be correct) is that the example given is an example of how to use it *correctly*. It sounds to me like it's warning against deviating too far from the steps given in the example. I can see as how the text might allow other interpretations, though! ~Ben (who is always careful to avoid using out-of-range values with mktime() when setting up lunch with promptness sticklers in Riyadh...)= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 09:58:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59A4DE6 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B046D9AF for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-109-47.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.109.47]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E4727A10; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:58:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r249widS030011; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:58:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:58:44 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Damien Fleuriot Subject: Re: Grepping though a disk Message-Id: <20130304105844.72c259f6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8402144E-5ECB-44E9-99FB-0258C855FE7B@my.gd> References: <20130304013608.7981e8a9.freebsd@edvax.de> <8402144E-5ECB-44E9-99FB-0258C855FE7B@my.gd> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 09:58:47 -0000 On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:09:50 +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > Hey that's actually a pretty creative way of doing things ;) It could be more optimum. :-) My thought is that I could maybe use a better bs= to make the whole thing run faster. I understand that for every unit, a subprocess dd | grep is started and an if [] test is run. Maybe doing this with 1 MB per unit would be better? Note that I need to grep through 1 TB in 10 kB steps... > Just to make sure, you've stopped daemons and all the stuff > that could potentially write to the drive and nuke your > blocks right ? Of course. The /dev/ad6 disk is a separate data disk which is not in use at the moment (unmounted). Still it is possible that the block has already been overwritten, but when the search has finished, it's almost certain in what state the data is. I would rewrite the file, but my eidetic memory is not working well anymore, so I can only remember parts of it... :-( -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 10:08:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15209FFB for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:08:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wolfgang.riegler@gmx.de) Received: from slave3.cbt-l.de (ip-72-172-205-91.static.contabo.net [91.205.172.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C14A1E for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (slave3.cbt-l.de [127.0.0.1]) by slave3.cbt-l.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E803829FC for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:08:35 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at slave3.cbt-l.de Received: from slave3.cbt-l.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (slave3.cbt-l.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 90X9vJsguOJV for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:08:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cbt-l.de (mail.cbt-l.de [212.185.49.146]) by slave3.cbt-l.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA5E383F9A for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 14:06:27 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 28683 invoked by uid 1009); 1 Mar 2013 13:06:26 -0000 Received: from 192.168.40.46 by mail.cbt-l.de (envelope-from , uid 1008) with qmail-scanner-1.25-st-qms (clamdscan: ClamAV 0.97.6/15380. spamassassin: 3.3.0. perlscan: 1.25-st-qms. Clear:RC:1(192.168.40.46):. Processed in 0.136892 secs); 01 Mar 2013 13:06:26 -0000 X-Antivirus-CBTL-Mail-From: wolfgang.riegler@gmx.de via mail.cbt-l.de X-Antivirus-CBTL: 1.25-st-qms (Clear:RC:1(192.168.40.46):. Processed in 0.136892 secs Process 28671) Received: from wolfgang.cbt-l.de (HELO wolfgang.localnet) (w.riegler@cbt-l.de@192.168.40.46) by mail.cbt-l.de with SMTP; 1 Mar 2013 13:06:26 -0000 From: Wolfgang Riegler To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: p5-Bit-Vector SHA256 Checksum mismatch (was PERL problem installing SQLgrey) Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:06:02 +0100 Message-ID: <2594141.AlMBf4Kn0Z@wolfgang> User-Agent: KMail/4.9.5 (Linux/3.7.5-pf-sepp1; KDE/4.9.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <51253e9d.901a.28c09d00.5088e293@go2france.com> References: <51253e9d.901a.28c09d00.5088e293@go2france.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:08:50 -0000 Hi, I have the same problem. I use poudriere to package all needed software for my servers. SQLgrey is the only one failing because of the dependency for p5-Bit-Vector. I tried it several times. Even downloading manually to /usr/ports/distfiles doesn't work. I test the sha256 checksum manually, and it is correct. Here the log from poudriere: # cat p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2.log build started at Fri Mar 1 12:38:24 CET 2013 port directory: /usr/ports/math/p5-Bit-Vector building for: 9.1-RELEASE amd64 maintained by: tobez@FreeBSD.org Makefile ident: $FreeBSD: ports/math/p5-Bit-Vector/Makefile,v 1.22 2013/01/22 09:50:13 svnexp Exp $ ---Begin Environment--- OSVERSION=901000 UNAME_v=FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE UNAME_r=9.1-RELEASE BLOCKSIZE=K MAIL=/var/mail/root PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/root/bin STATUS=1 PKG_EXT=txz WITH_CCACHE_BUILD=yes FORCE_PACKAGE=yes tpid=15131 POUDRIERE_BUILD_TYPE=bulk PKGNG=1 PKG_DELETE=/usr/local/sbin/pkg delete -y -f PKG_ADD=/usr/local/sbin/pkg add CCACHE_DIR=/var/cache/ccache PWD=/mnt/system/DATEN/poudriere/basefs/data/logs/bulk/91amd64/hostportstree LOGS=/mnt/system/DATEN/poudriere/basefs/data/logs HOME=/root USER=root SKIPSANITY=0 LOCALBASE=/usr/local PACKAGE_BUILDING=yes ---End Environment--- ---Begin OPTIONS List--- ---End OPTIONS List--- ================================================= ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/sbin/pkg in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg ===> Installing existing package /usr/ports/packages/All/pkg-1.0.8.txz Installing pkg-1.0.8... done If you are upgrading from the old package format, first run: # pkg2ng ===> Returning to build of p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.14 ===> Installing existing package /usr/ports/packages/All/perl-5.14.2_2.txz Installing perl-5.14.2_2...Removing stale symlinks from /usr/bin... Skipping /usr/bin/perl Skipping /usr/bin/perl5 Done. Creating various symlinks in /usr/bin... Symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 to /usr/bin/perl Symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 to /usr/bin/perl5 Done. Cleaning up /etc/make.conf... Done. Spamming /etc/make.conf... Done. done ===> Returning to build of p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 - found ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on package: p5-Carp-Clan>=0 - not found ===> Verifying install for p5-Carp-Clan>=0 in /usr/ports/devel/p5-Carp-Clan ===> Installing existing package /usr/ports/packages/All/p5-Carp-Clan-6.04.txz Installing p5-Carp-Clan-6.04... done ===> Returning to build of p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 - found ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/ccache - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/ccache in /usr/ports/devel/ccache ===> Installing existing package /usr/ports/packages/All/ccache-3.1.9.txz Installing ccache-3.1.9...Create compiler links... create symlink for cc create symlink for cc (world) create symlink for c++ create symlink for c++ (world) create symlink for gcc create symlink for gcc (world) create symlink for g++ create symlink for g++ (world) create symlink for clang create symlink for clang (world) create symlink for clang++ create symlink for clang++ (world) done NOTE: Please read /usr/local/share/doc/ccache/ccache-howto-freebsd.txt for information on using ccache with FreeBSD ports and src. ===> Returning to build of p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 ====================================================================== ===> Cleaning for p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 ================================================= ====================================================================== ================================================= ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found ====================================================================== ================================================= ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz. ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found => Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.cpan.org/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: ftp://ftp.cpan.org/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Unknown FTP error => Attempting to fetch http://www.cpan.dk/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: http://www.cpan.dk/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Requested Range Not Satisfiable => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: local file (137817 bytes) is longer than remote file (135586 bytes) => Attempting to fetch http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Requested Range Not Satisfiable => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.dti.ad.jp/pub/lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: local file (137817 bytes) is longer than remote file (135586 bytes) => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Unknown FTP error => Attempting to fetch ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: local file (137817 bytes) is longer than remote file (135586 bytes) => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/cpan.perl.org/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: local file (137817 bytes) is longer than remote file (135586 bytes) => Attempting to fetch http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Requested Range Not Satisfiable => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: local file (137817 bytes) is longer than remote file (135586 bytes) => Attempting to fetch http://backpan.perl.org/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: http://backpan.perl.org/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Not Found => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Unknown FTP error => Attempting to fetch http://cpan.nctu.edu.tw/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: http://cpan.nctu.edu.tw/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Requested Range Not Satisfiable => Attempting to fetch http://ftp.twaren.net/Unix/Lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: http://ftp.twaren.net/Unix/Lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Requested Range Not Satisfiable => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.cpan.org/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: ftp://ftp.cpan.org/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Unknown FTP error => Attempting to fetch http://www.cpan.dk/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: http://www.cpan.dk/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Requested Range Not Satisfiable => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: size mismatch: expected 135586, actual 137817 => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this => port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. *** [do-fetch] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/math/p5-Bit-Vector. *** [checksum] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/math/p5-Bit-Vector. ===> Cleaning for p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 build of /usr/ports/math/p5-Bit-Vector ended at Fri Mar 1 12:39:17 CET 2013 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 10:15:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F594180 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x232.google.com (mail-ie0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F7CA5B for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f178.google.com with SMTP id c13so5853555ieb.37 for ; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 02:15:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7L0CVQDweT7ndqWEkMTDsxEppreaagC/yv9H6GkkBoU=; b=QeOOaff3oODQzDGUQ/e2dL8c099/mF71I6ViTB0B8YDrNO1yaeAtbpkAK9W0QvBILy nKrLpH4Al1GXX+4t0BQYQhO52++UjzCZ2lhS3rlSFhxzrT37jmzh/mA/WHDBiaGBGk2c PfH9ricd1cmylI6WpVIlqYE3mMBcw6GyOo+latQg3pFCauSmz6fMG44dTsHA2s1Sb/HK 87THudX0Dy2sWbSz4N8kTQJxv1uAjq9LJjhmMKKuKbe/cKad3ugHO5za5W+fR2Krxo4N YNQRlrbY//WWGAk1pHVp9KNv9004gGPJ6meulVLkxSHVsHHTkV46EvWeWlIF07rkV9OW zbcQ== X-Received: by 10.50.190.231 with SMTP id gt7mr1958714igc.85.1362392157590; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 02:15:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (c-98-212-197-211.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vb15sm10170356igb.9.2013.03.04.02.15.56 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Mar 2013 02:15:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51347454.5060605@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 04:15:48 -0600 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Grepping though a disk References: <20130304013608.7981e8a9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130304013608.7981e8a9.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:15:58 -0000 On 3/3/2013 6:36 PM, Polytropon wrote: > Due to a fsck file system repair I lost the content of a file > I consider important, but it hasn't been backed up yet. The > file name is still present, but no blocks are associated > (file size is zero). I hope the data blocks (which are now > probably marked "unused") are still intact, so I thought > I'd search for them because I can remember specific text > that should have been in that file. > > As I don't need any fancy stuff like a progress bar, I > decided to write a simple command, and I quickly got > something up and running which I _assume_ will do what > I need. > > This is the command I've been running interactively in bash: > > $ N=0; while true; do echo "${N}"; dd if=/dev/ad6 of=/dev/stdout bs=10240 count=1 skip=${N} 2>/dev/null | grep ""; if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then break; fi; N=`expr ${N} + 1`; done > > To make it look a bit better and illustrate the simple > logic behind my idea: > > N=0 > while true; do > echo "${N}" > dd if=/dev/ad6 of=/dev/stdout bs=10240 count=1 skip=${N} \ > 2>/dev/null | grep "" > if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then > break > fi > N=`expr ${N} + 1` > done > > Here refers to the text. It's only a small, but > very distinctive portion. I'm searching in blocks of 10 kB > so it's easier to continue in case something has been found. > I plan to output the resulting "block" (it's not a real disk > block, I know, it's simply a unit of 10 kB disk space) and > maybe the previous and next one (in case the file, the _real_ > block containing the data, has been split across more than > one of those units. I will then clean the "garbage" (maybe > from other files) because I can easily determine the beginning > and the end of the file. > > Needless to say, it's a _text_ file. > > I understand that grep operates on text files, but it will > also happily return 0 if the text to search for will appear > in a binary file, and possibly return the whole file as a > search result (in case there are no newlines in it). > > My questions: > > 1. Is this the proper way of stupidly searching a disk? > > 2. Is the block size (bs= parameter to dd) good, or should > I use a different value for better performance? > > 3. Is there a program known that already implements the > functionality I need in terms of data recovery? > > Results so far: > > The disk in question is a 1 TB SATA disk. The command has > been running for more than 12 hours now and returned one > false-positive result, so basically it seems to work, but > maybe I can do better? I can always continue search by > adding 1 to ${N}, set it as start value, and re-run the > command. > > Any suggestion is welcome! > > > I'd call bs= essential for speed. Any copying will be faster with something higher. Also, there's the possibility, very annoying, that your search string overlaps a place where you read. I'd probably check 1M blocks, but advance maybe 950k each time. Make sure you're reading from block offsets for maximum speed. I know disk editors exist, I remember using one on Mac OS 8.6 for find a lost file. That was back on a 6 gig hard drive. Depending on the file size, you could open the disk in vi and just search from there, or just run strings on the disk and pipe it to vi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 10:29:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42756336 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:29:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E24AB5 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UCSKd-00059h-Id for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:09:19 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UCSKR-000NJJ-Fg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:09:07 +0000 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:08:37 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Confused by restore(8) man page example Message-Id: <20130304100837.41f5084d9b0c5817957a6ed1@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <4861.1362390444@server1.tristatelogic.com> References: <4861.1362390444@server1.tristatelogic.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:29:58 -0000 On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:47:24 -0800 "Ronald F. Guilmette" wrote: > > > In the man page for restore(8) I see the following: > > The -r flag ... can be detrimental to one's health if > not used carefully (not to mention the disk). An example: > > newfs /dev/da0s1a > mount /dev/da0s1a /mnt > cd /mnt > > restore rf /dev/sa0 > > > Personally, I utterly fail to see what point the author is attempting > to illustrate with the above example. I mean what part of this, exactly, > may be "detrimental to one's health" ? It's an enigma to me. There's nothing wrong with the example. I think "An example:" should be in a new paragraph to make it clear that it is not related to the warning. The detrimental effects cut in when you use -r on a filesystem that is not pristine, or at least in the expected state for restoring an incremental dump. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 11:15:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DDBBA6 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F82F1069 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-109-47.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.109.47]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A013D1CC; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:15:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r24BFOOD037185; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:15:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:15:24 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Joshua Isom Subject: Re: Grepping though a disk Message-Id: <20130304121524.63685108.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <51347454.5060605@gmail.com> References: <20130304013608.7981e8a9.freebsd@edvax.de> <51347454.5060605@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:15:26 -0000 On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 04:15:48 -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: > I'd call bs= essential for speed. Any copying will be faster with > something higher. I thought about that. Narrowing down _if_ something has found is easy, e. g. when the positive 1 MB unit is dd'ed to a file, further work can easily be applied. > Also, there's the possibility, very annoying, that > your search string overlaps a place where you read. I'd probably check > 1M blocks, but advance maybe 950k each time. I also thought about that, that's why the distinctive phrase I'm searching for is less than 10 characters long. Still it's possible that it appears "across" a boundary of units, no matter how big or small I select bs=. But I don't know how to do this. From reading "man dd" my impression (consistent with my experience) is that the option skip= operates in units of bs= size, so I'm not sure how to compose a command that reads units of 1 MB, but skips in units of 950 kB. Maybe some parts of my memory have also been marked "unused" by fsck. :-) > Make sure you're reading > from block offsets for maximum speed. How do I do that? The disk is a normal HDD which has been initialized with "newfs -U" and no further options. ad6: 953869MB at ata3-master UDMA100 SATA 1.5Gb/s The file system spans the whole disk. > I know disk editors exist, I > remember using one on Mac OS 8.6 for find a lost file. That was back on > a 6 gig hard drive. Ha, I've done stuff like that on DOS with "important business data" many years ago, using the "Norton Disk Doctor" (NDD.EXE) when Norton (today: Symantec) wasn't yet synonymous for "The Yellow Plague". This program actually was quite cool, and you could search for things, manipulate disks on several levels (files, file system and below). I had even rewritten an entire partition table from scratch, memory and handheld calculator after an OS/2 installation went crazy. :-) > Depending on the file size, you could open the disk in vi and just > search from there, or just run strings on the disk and pipe it to vi. You mean like "strings /dev/ad6 | something", without dd? That would give me _no_ progress indicator (with my initial approach I have increasing numbers at least), but I doubt I can load a 1 TB partition in a vi session with only 2 GB RAM in the machine. If I try "strings /dev/ad6" I get a warning: "strings: Warning: '/dev/ad6' is not an ordinary file". True. But this opens a useful use of cat: "cat /dev/ad6 | strings". (Interesting idea, I will investigate this further.) The file size of the file I'm searching for is less than 10 kB. It's a relatively small text file which got some subsequent additions in the last days, but hasn't been part of the backup job yet. I can only remember parts of those additions, because as I said my brain is not good with computer. :-) Or do you think of something different? If yes, please explain. The urge to learn is strong when something went wrong. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 11:29:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F9E3B8 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB641155 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:29:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UCTaQ-0004ib-7r; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:29:42 +0000 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UCTaD-000NdI-S9; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:29:29 +0000 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:29:00 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Grepping though a disk Message-Id: <20130304112900.660b3e29dbec8f2f60fffa9b@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20130304121524.63685108.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20130304013608.7981e8a9.freebsd@edvax.de> <51347454.5060605@gmail.com> <20130304121524.63685108.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) Cc: Polytropon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:29:32 -0000 On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:15:24 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > But I don't know how to do this. From reading "man dd" > my impression (consistent with my experience) is that > the option skip= operates in units of bs= size, so I'm > not sure how to compose a command that reads units of > 1 MB, but skips in units of 950 kB. Maybe some parts of > my memory have also been marked "unused" by fsck. :-) Not too hard (you'll kick yourself when you read down) - translation to valid shell script is left as an exercise for the reader :) bs=50k count=(n*20) skip=(n*20 - 1) Probably nicer to use powers of 2 bs=64k count=(n*16) skip=(n*16 - 1) -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 11:35:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39855649 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:35:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184B111A6 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDE63B669 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 03:35:30 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: backups using rsync Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 03:35:30 -0800 Message-ID: <6126.1362396930@server1.tristatelogic.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:35:36 -0000 As a result of this past Black Friday weekend, I now enjoy a true abundance of disk space, for the first time in my life. I wanna make a full backup, on a weekly basis, of my main system's shiny new 1TB drive onto another 1TB drive that I also picked up cheap back on Black Friday. I've been planning to set this up for some long time now, but I've only gotten 'round to working on it now. Now, unfortunately, I have just been bitten by the evil... and apparently widely known (except to me)... ``You can't use dump(8) to dump a journaled filesystem with soft updates'' bug-a-boo. Sigh. The best laid plans of mice and men... I _had_ planned on using dump/restore and making backups from live mounted filesystems while the system was running. But I really don't want to have to take the system down to single-user mode every week for a few hours while I'm making my disk-to-disk backup. So now I'm looking at doing the backups using rsync. I see that rsync can nowadays properly cope with all sorts of oddities, like fer instance device files, hard-linked files, ACLs, file attributes, and all sorts of other unusual but important filesystem thingies. That's good news, but I still have to ask the obvious question: If I use all of the following rsync options... -a,-H,-A, -X, and -S .... when trying to make my backups, and if I do whatever additional fiddling is necessary to insure that I separately copy over the MBR and boot loader also to my backup drive, then is there any reason that, in the event of a sudden meteor shower that takes out my primary disk drive while leaving my backup drive intact, I can't just unplug my old primary drive, plug in my (rsync-created) backup drive, reboot and be back in the sadddle again, almost immediately, and with -zero- problems? Regards, rfg P.S. My apologies if I've already asked this exact same question here before. I'm getting a sense of deja vu... or else a feeling that I am often running around in circles, chasing my own tail. P.P.S. Before anyone asks, no I really _do not_ want to just use RAID as my one and only backup strategy. RAID is swell if your only problem is hardware failures. As far as I know however it will not save your bacon in the event of a fumble fingers "rm -rf *" moment. Only frequent and routine actual backups can do that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 11:39:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56344726 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F66A11D2 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:39:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-109-47.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.109.47]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211903D611; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:39:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r24BdEXW084141; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:39:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:39:14 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Subject: Re: Grepping though a disk Message-Id: <20130304123914.c18a9eb6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130304112900.660b3e29dbec8f2f60fffa9b@sohara.org> References: <20130304013608.7981e8a9.freebsd@edvax.de> <51347454.5060605@gmail.com> <20130304121524.63685108.freebsd@edvax.de> <20130304112900.660b3e29dbec8f2f60fffa9b@sohara.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:39:10 -0000 On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:29:00 +0000, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:15:24 +0100 > Polytropon wrote: > > > But I don't know how to do this. From reading "man dd" > > my impression (consistent with my experience) is that > > the option skip= operates in units of bs= size, so I'm > > not sure how to compose a command that reads units of > > 1 MB, but skips in units of 950 kB. Maybe some parts of > > my memory have also been marked "unused" by fsck. :-) > > Not too hard (you'll kick yourself when you read down) - translation > to valid shell script is left as an exercise for the reader :) > > bs=50k count=(n*20) skip=(n*20 - 1) > > Probably nicer to use powers of 2 > > bs=64k count=(n*16) skip=(n*16 - 1) Thanks for the pointer. I was so concentrated on finding the answer within dd that I hadn't thought about that. It's easy to write this in shell code. As a conclusion, I will apply for further IQ reduction, seems that I have enough spare brain power I don't use anyway. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 11:40:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A0B7CC for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0F611E6 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0D13B8B8 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 03:40:15 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: chmod... what am I missing? Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 03:40:15 -0800 Message-ID: <6154.1362397215@server1.tristatelogic.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:40:16 -0000 I must not be attending the Right conferences, or else the Right parties, because I don't get the joke. Could somebody please explain to me the meaning of the BUGS section of the chmod(1) man page, as distributed with 9.1-RELEASE? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 11:56:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BAA2A3 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6391392 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:56:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-109-47.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.109.47]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D313D625; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:56:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r24BuY7P066645; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:56:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:56:34 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: backups using rsync Message-Id: <20130304125634.8450cfaf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <6126.1362396930@server1.tristatelogic.com> References: <6126.1362396930@server1.tristatelogic.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:56:30 -0000 On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 03:35:30 -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > Now, unfortunately, I have just been bitten by the evil... and apparently > widely known (except to me)... ``You can't use dump(8) to dump a journaled > filesystem with soft updates'' bug-a-boo. There are other tools you can use, for example tar or cpdup or rsync, as you've mentioned in the subject. > I _had_ planned on using dump/restore and making backups from live mounted > filesystems while the system was running. But I really don't want to have > to take the system down to single-user mode every week for a few hours while > I'm making my disk-to-disk backup. So now I'm looking at doing the backups > using rsync. The same problems that apply when dumping live systems can bite you using rsync, but support for this "on file system level" seems to be better in rsync than what dump does "on block level". > If I use all of the following rsync options... -a,-H,-A, -X, and -S .... > when trying to make my backups, and if I do whatever additional fiddling > is necessary to insure that I separately copy over the MBR and boot loader > also to my backup drive, then is there any reason that, in the event of > a sudden meteor shower that takes out my primary disk drive while leaving > my backup drive intact, I can't just unplug my old primary drive, plug in > my (rsync-created) backup drive, reboot and be back in the sadddle again, > almost immediately, and with -zero- problems? You would have to make sure _many_ things are consistent on the backup disk. Regarding terminology, that would make the disk a failover disk, even if the act of making it the actual "work disk" is something you do manually. The disk would need to have an initialized file system and a working boot mechanism, both things rsync does not deal with, if I remember correctly. But as soon as you have initialized the disk for the first time and made sure (by testing your first result of a rsync run), it should work with any subsequent change of data you transfer to that disk. > P.P.S. Before anyone asks, no I really _do not_ want to just use RAID > as my one and only backup strategy. RAID _is_ **NO** backup. It's for dedundancy and performance. If something is erased or corrupted, it's on all disks. And all the disks permanently run. A backup disk only runs twice: when backing something up, or when restoring. In your case, restoring means that the disk is put into operation in its role as a failover disk. > RAID is swell if your only problem > is hardware failures. Still hardware failures can corrupt data on all participating disks. > As far as I know however it will not save your > bacon in the event of a fumble fingers "rm -rf *" moment. Only frequent > and routine actual backups can do that. Correct. It's important to learn that lesson _before_ it is actually needed. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 11:56:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93EC339 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:56:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1049013E5 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r24Buit6029804 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:56:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id r24BuiAZ029801; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:56:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:56:44 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Wolfgang Riegler Subject: Re: p5-Bit-Vector SHA256 Checksum mismatch (was PERL problem installing SQLgrey) In-Reply-To: <2594141.AlMBf4Kn0Z@wolfgang> Message-ID: References: <51253e9d.901a.28c09d00.5088e293@go2france.com> <2594141.AlMBf4Kn0Z@wolfgang> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2055831798-1342572508-1362398204=:91347" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fig.ol.no Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:56:49 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2055831798-1342572508-1362398204=:91347 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 14:06+0100, Wolfgang Riegler wrote: > SQLgrey is the only one failing because of the dependency for > p5-Bit-Vector. I tried it several times. Even downloading manually > to /usr/ports/distfiles doesn't work. I test the sha256 checksum > manually, and it is correct. I came across the same problem using portupgrade the other day, this was actually a few weeks ago. My solution was to delete Bit-Vector-* from /usr/ports/distfiles and retry the portupgrade operation. The Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz file on my system is dated 2012-05-17T13:32:09+0000, has a size of 135586 bytes, and produce this SHA256 hash: SHA256 (Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz) = d60630f0eb033edabfe904416c6e7324fefff13699e97302361d1bad80f62e0f This seem consistent with the contents of the distinfo file. Make sure Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz is the only file in the distfiles directory with filenames beginning with "Bit-Vector-7.2". > Here the log from poudriere: # cat p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2.log > > build started at Fri Mar 1 12:38:24 CET 2013 > port directory: /usr/ports/math/p5-Bit-Vector > building for: 9.1-RELEASE amd64 > maintained by: tobez@FreeBSD.org > Makefile ident: $FreeBSD: ports/math/p5-Bit-Vector/Makefile,v 1.22 2013/01/22 09:50:13 svnexp Exp $ > ---Begin Environment--- > OSVERSION=901000 > UNAME_v=FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE > UNAME_r=9.1-RELEASE > BLOCKSIZE=K > MAIL=/var/mail/root > PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/root/bin > STATUS=1 > PKG_EXT=txz > WITH_CCACHE_BUILD=yes > FORCE_PACKAGE=yes > tpid=15131 > POUDRIERE_BUILD_TYPE=bulk > PKGNG=1 > PKG_DELETE=/usr/local/sbin/pkg delete -y -f > PKG_ADD=/usr/local/sbin/pkg add > CCACHE_DIR=/var/cache/ccache > PWD=/mnt/system/DATEN/poudriere/basefs/data/logs/bulk/91amd64/hostportstree > LOGS=/mnt/system/DATEN/poudriere/basefs/data/logs > HOME=/root > USER=root > SKIPSANITY=0 > LOCALBASE=/usr/local > PACKAGE_BUILDING=yes > ---End Environment--- > > ---Begin OPTIONS List--- > ---End OPTIONS List--- > ================================================= > ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/sbin/pkg in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg > ===> Installing existing package /usr/ports/packages/All/pkg-1.0.8.txz > Installing pkg-1.0.8... done > If you are upgrading from the old package format, first run: > > # pkg2ng > ===> Returning to build of p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 > ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.14 > ===> Installing existing package /usr/ports/packages/All/perl-5.14.2_2.txz > Installing perl-5.14.2_2...Removing stale symlinks from /usr/bin... > Skipping /usr/bin/perl > Skipping /usr/bin/perl5 > Done. > Creating various symlinks in /usr/bin... > Symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 to /usr/bin/perl > Symlinking /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 to /usr/bin/perl5 > Done. > Cleaning up /etc/make.conf... Done. > Spamming /etc/make.conf... Done. > done > ===> Returning to build of p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 > ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 - found > ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on package: p5-Carp-Clan>=0 - not found > ===> Verifying install for p5-Carp-Clan>=0 in /usr/ports/devel/p5-Carp-Clan > ===> Installing existing package /usr/ports/packages/All/p5-Carp-Clan-6.04.txz > Installing p5-Carp-Clan-6.04... done > ===> Returning to build of p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 > ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 - found > ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/ccache - not found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/ccache in /usr/ports/devel/ccache > ===> Installing existing package /usr/ports/packages/All/ccache-3.1.9.txz > Installing ccache-3.1.9...Create compiler links... > create symlink for cc > create symlink for cc (world) > create symlink for c++ > create symlink for c++ (world) > create symlink for gcc > create symlink for gcc (world) > create symlink for g++ > create symlink for g++ (world) > create symlink for clang > create symlink for clang (world) > create symlink for clang++ > create symlink for clang++ (world) > done > > NOTE: > Please read /usr/local/share/doc/ccache/ccache-howto-freebsd.txt for > information on using ccache with FreeBSD ports and src. > ===> Returning to build of p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 > ====================================================================== > ===> Cleaning for p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 > ================================================= > ====================================================================== > ================================================= > ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found > ====================================================================== > ================================================= > ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found > => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz. > ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > ===> p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found > => Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. > => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.cpan.org/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: ftp://ftp.cpan.org/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Unknown FTP error > => Attempting to fetch http://www.cpan.dk/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: http://www.cpan.dk/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Requested Range Not Satisfiable > => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.kddlabs.co.jp/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: local file (137817 bytes) is longer than remote file (135586 bytes) > => Attempting to fetch http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Requested Range Not Satisfiable > => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.dti.ad.jp/pub/lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: local file (137817 bytes) is longer than remote file (135586 bytes) > => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Unknown FTP error > => Attempting to fetch ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: local file (137817 bytes) is longer than remote file (135586 bytes) > => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/cpan.perl.org/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: local file (137817 bytes) is longer than remote file (135586 bytes) > => Attempting to fetch http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: http://at.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Requested Range Not Satisfiable > => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.auckland.ac.nz/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: local file (137817 bytes) is longer than remote file (135586 bytes) > => Attempting to fetch http://backpan.perl.org/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: http://backpan.perl.org/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Not Found > => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Unknown FTP error > => Attempting to fetch http://cpan.nctu.edu.tw/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: http://cpan.nctu.edu.tw/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Requested Range Not Satisfiable > => Attempting to fetch http://ftp.twaren.net/Unix/Lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: http://ftp.twaren.net/Unix/Lang/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Requested Range Not Satisfiable > => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.cpan.org/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: ftp://ftp.cpan.org/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Unknown FTP error > => Attempting to fetch http://www.cpan.dk/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: http://www.cpan.dk/modules/by-module/Bit/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: Requested Range Not Satisfiable > => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz > fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/Bit-Vector-7.2.tar.gz: size mismatch: expected 135586, actual 137817 > => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this > => port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. > *** [do-fetch] Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/math/p5-Bit-Vector. > *** [checksum] Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/math/p5-Bit-Vector. > ===> Cleaning for p5-Bit-Vector-7.2_2 > build of /usr/ports/math/p5-Bit-Vector ended at Fri Mar 1 12:39:17 CET 2013 -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ --2055831798-1342572508-1362398204=:91347-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 11:57:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9E33D9 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B921439 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:57:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:47:04 +0100 Message-ID: <513489A4.8080902@ose.nl> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 12:46:44 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chmod... what am I missing? References: <6154.1362397215@server1.tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <6154.1362397215@server1.tristatelogic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:57:13 -0000 On 03/04/2013 12:40 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > I must not be attending the Right conferences, or else the Right parties, > because I don't get the joke. > > Could somebody please explain to me the meaning of the BUGS section of the > chmod(1) man page, as distributed with 9.1-RELEASE? http://www.mail-archive.com/svn-src-all@freebsd.org/msg04124.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 12:21:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB319C0A for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6453615D2 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBF679.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.246.121]) (authenticated bits=128) by flat.berklix.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r24CLS6k056487; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:21:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r24CLYMF007651; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:21:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r24CLNwT011267; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:21:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201303041221.r24CLNwT011267@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Grepping though a disk From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:36:08 +0100." <20130304013608.7981e8a9.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:21:23 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 12:21:57 -0000 Hi Polytropon & cc questions@ > Any suggestion is welcome! Ideas: A themed list: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org There's a bunch of fs tools in /usr/ports/sysutils/ My http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/jhs/bin/public/slice/ slices large images such as tapes & disks (also the slice names would give numbers convertable to offsets probaably useful to eg ..a) man fsdb A bit of custom C should run a lot faster than shells & greps, eg when I was looking for nasty files from a bad scsi controller, I wrote http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/jhs/bin/public/8f/ One could run eg slice asynchronously & suspend ^Z when you run out of space, & periodicaly run some custom C (like 8f.c) or some find grep -v rm loop to discard most slices as of no interest. Then resume slicing. OK, thats doing writes too, so slower than just read & a later dd with seek=whatever, depends how conservative one's feeling, about doing reruns with other search criteria. You mentioned risk of text string chopped across a slice/block boundary. Certainly a risk. Presumably solution is to search twice. 2nd time after a dd with a half block/ slice size offset, then slice/search again. If you runout of space to do that, you might write a temporary disklabel/bsdlabel with an extra partition with a half block offset .. dodgy stuff that, do it while you'r wide awake :-) Always a pain these scenarios, loosing hours of human & CPU time, I hope data's worth it, good luck. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with "> ". Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 12:50:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752982F3 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be (mxin.ulb.ac.be [164.15.128.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105D116C3 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:50:27 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBADSYNFGkD30E/2dsb2JhbAANOMJNgRaDEgEBAQQ4QBELGAkWDwkDAgECAUUTBgIBAbxWigCIW48UFoMqA5dkhEaOEQ Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA; 04 Mar 2013 13:50:20 +0100 Message-ID: <5134988B.3040704@ulb.ac.be> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:50:19 +0100 From: Julien Cigar User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130211 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Soekris or .. ? References: <513087A1.3020308@ulb.ac.be> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 12:50:28 -0000 On 03/01/2013 14:24, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Julien Cigar wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm looking for a small Soekris-like (http://soekris.com/) box which support >> FreeBSD, any experience or brand to advise .. ? > I'm using Soekris net4801 boxes with FreeBSD without problems > since many years as small routers with pf, dhcp, bind, lighttpd etc... > Last version i've tested is 8.3. I didn't update to 9.X yet for no other > reasons than lack of time to try it, and I don't know if clang supports > Geode well enough so I can't say anything about -CURRENT. But save > for this, Soekris boxes and FreeBSD are a great match. > >> Thank you, >> Julien > -cpghost. > Thanks for all your answers ..! it's to replace our old linux router, so I think I'll go with a Soekris box..! -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 13:18:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04111AD1 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:18:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF2A17D9 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f182.google.com with SMTP id gg6so3836882lbb.41 for ; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 05:18:09 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Szb6d0977bxFQyXiYY2lA9Qd4vUNB91yzYV18iD1jQc=; b=KWIB+CVs5OTucOPoaVRzfH1CRzbgH2JaRlg2NX3RYjoTfhLA4utgO1sTMDk4lFfLeA dm3cBUIldDEdSusXKWsY0m5TRfVww3pyfffGN8qInkmYWuZTTe5cSRMsGb9sXBj1LnXB EZHrU8dMEZkc6ZeXQucr1kCmODC9feBVNkgSHQWueGgL85dO/mPLX25fuNVHPDsMzajh nNpmgXqnu/GuJueoEkgG6u0nqhw38lTjHqkAC7bgDbG4bBkmNkhK3nlLPnIDM3OnUGxD vR14rqkv89cv82eun1MIS2hUJhG+ZDim2vMR4QxXt1lJjtsRlHmo2X7BQZ6Gq3BugHfz ZNZw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.103.168 with SMTP id fx8mr4527806lbb.32.1362403089530; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 05:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.8.40 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 05:18:09 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.178.250] In-Reply-To: <20130304013608.7981e8a9.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20130304013608.7981e8a9.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 14:18:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Grepping though a disk From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmUHQWll8FWMLZgPNCalR9jS0WHYFt+Cbc6/Sjr0BG8WuxITjbFMqKb918KtvHzHxAJlWAz Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:18:18 -0000 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Polytropon wrote: > Any suggestion is welcome! How about crawling the metadata, locating each block that is already allocated, and skip those blocks when you scan the disk? That could reduce the searching space significantly. blkls(1) et al. from the Sleuth Kit are your friends. Good luck, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 13:28:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50B2CF6 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:28:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris.universe@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-f42.google.com (mail-oa0-f42.google.com [209.85.219.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B635B1839 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id i18so9122445oag.15 for ; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 05:28:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=DBYEkVYUr8mKB8d/XxNdG9kWxO+ZikfwtC54z9y0l+M=; b=PO8HY+V67YeQ/3JIDOKgr0Hkvqv1zVbL/LLTw82uVSG3U6xHAtsddq5xxVOScyOiVF WUtZQc7og+Dqob50CFQ4bzSlELLY26ucXCKX/UyINmhKohRhxUn8AvOuk1usVfWwKzrk fURJfKIi8RjZzBkfj44BT0Bf27K0k2VG0p7q08/bDbm7aZEtt2NRFIXF1jWP8sey60x4 i+v0TGEjVCu8YuDdcleruQ5gwqwrT3Kij55kHLP+lUVhQDQJHwC2D40yRYSyRcvrFDE/ P43Btci6zHc2isQL0VEO3zHuS0xNy5Hy4Aj4+6GUM+21Krm7sxph9WobtavDoKiVaOhf dtmQ== X-Received: by 10.60.11.168 with SMTP id r8mr15083418oeb.136.1362403692047; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 05:28:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [178.189.33.36] ([70.116.76.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x5sm29868726oeb.6.2013.03.04.05.28.10 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Mar 2013 05:28:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Zlib version in FreeBSD - 3 releases behind? From: KrisUniverse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B146) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 07:28:09 -0600 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:28:13 -0000 The Zlib baked into FreeBSD is Zlib 1.2.4 even on 9.1R. However, Zlib has gone to 1.2.7 sometime ago after stepping through 1.2.5, 1= .2.6 and 1.2.7 with bug fixes. Is there any reason for not using Zlib 1.2.7? Thanks. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 13:41:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD888FF1 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C0A18B2 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r24DfUC3066600; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 06:41:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r24DfUis066597; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 06:41:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 06:41:30 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Grepping though a disk In-Reply-To: <20130304121524.63685108.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20130304013608.7981e8a9.freebsd@edvax.de> <51347454.5060605@gmail.com> <20130304121524.63685108.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:41:30 -0700 (MST) Cc: Joshua Isom , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:41:35 -0000 On Mon, 4 Mar 2013, Polytropon wrote: > The file size of the file I'm searching for is less than 10 kB. > It's a relatively small text file which got some subsequent > additions in the last days, but hasn't been part of the backup > job yet. There have been some good suggestions. I would use a large buffer with dd, say 1M or more, both for speed and to reduce the chance of hitting only part of the search string. For the future, look at sysutils/rsnapshot. Easy to set up, space-efficient, and provides an easily-accessed file history. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 14:00:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAADCC64 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 14:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496D51A10 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 14:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r24E0YNU066840; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 07:00:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r24E0TuQ066837; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 07:00:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 07:00:29 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: backups using rsync In-Reply-To: <6126.1362396930@server1.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: References: <6126.1362396930@server1.tristatelogic.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Mar 2013 07:00:34 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:00:35 -0000 On Mon, 4 Mar 2013, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > Now, unfortunately, I have just been bitten by the evil... and apparently > widely known (except to me)... ``You can't use dump(8) to dump a journaled > filesystem with soft updates'' bug-a-boo. Until SUJ has been deemed 100%, I avoid it and suggest others do also. It can be disabled on an existing filesystem from single user mode. > If I use all of the following rsync options... -a,-H,-A, -X, and -S .... > when trying to make my backups, and if I do whatever additional fiddling > is necessary to insure that I separately copy over the MBR and boot loader > also to my backup drive, then is there any reason that, in the event of > a sudden meteor shower that takes out my primary disk drive while leaving > my backup drive intact, I can't just unplug my old primary drive, plug in > my (rsync-created) backup drive, reboot and be back in the sadddle again, > almost immediately, and with -zero- problems? It works. I use this to "slow mirror" SSDs to a hard disk, avoiding the speed penalty of combining an SSD with a hard disk in RAID1. Use the latest net/rsync port, and enable the FLAGS option. I use these options, copying each filesystem individually: -axHAXS --delete --fileflags --force-change --delete removes files present on the copy that are not on the original. Some people may want to leave those. --exclude= is used on certain filesystems to skip directories that are full of easily recreated data that changes often, like /usr/obj. Yes, the partitions and bootcode must be set up beforehand. After that, it works. Like any disk redundancy scheme, test it before an emergency. > P.P.S. Before anyone asks, no I really _do not_ want to just use RAID > as my one and only backup strategy. RAID is swell if your only problem > is hardware failures. As far as I know however it will not save your > bacon in the event of a fumble fingers "rm -rf *" moment. Only frequent > and routine actual backups can do that. Yes, RAID is not a backup. Another suggestion I've been making often: use sysutils/rsnapshot to make an accessible history of files. The archive go on another partition on the mirror drive, which likely has more space than the original. rsnapshot uses rsync with hard links to make an archive that lets you easily get to old versions of files that have changed in the last few hours/days/weeks/months. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 15:27:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7336C12 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:27:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@jerrymc.net) Received: from jerrymc.net (jerrymc.net [75.75.214.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7076FEF for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jerrymc.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jerrymc.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r24FEAEC076377; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:14:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@jerrymc.net) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by jerrymc.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r24FEAxh076376; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:14:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:14:10 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Subject: Re: Confused by restore(8) man page example Message-ID: <20130304151410.GB76266@jerrymc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD-Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 15:27:49 -0000 Subject: Re: Confused by restore(8) man page example On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 10:08:37AM +0000, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:47:24 -0800 > "Ronald F. Guilmette" wrote: > > > > > In the man page for restore(8) I see the following: > > > > The -r flag ... can be detrimental to one's health if > > not used carefully (not to mention the disk). An example: > > > > newfs /dev/da0s1a > > mount /dev/da0s1a /mnt > > cd /mnt > > > > restore rf /dev/sa0 > > > > Personally, I utterly fail to see what point the author is attempting > > to illustrate with the above example. I mean what part of this, exactly, > > may be "detrimental to one's health" ? It's an enigma to me. > > There's nothing wrong with the example. I think "An example:" > should be in a new paragraph to make it clear that it is not related to > the warning. The detrimental effects cut in when you use -r on a filesystem > that is not pristine, or at least in the expected state for restoring an > incremental dump. This and the previous reply are correct. This example shows a correct way to use 'restore -r' The '-r' flag causes it to write where you are cd-ed to without any warning what you are doing or overwriting. If there are other files in the directory that is to receive the files from a 'restore -r' has other files, you may unexpectedly overwrite some of them. Also, if you are not cd-ed in to the correct place (the mount point, for example) using the '-r' will quickly write all over whatever directory you are cd-ed to without warning. In other words '-r' causes it to splat out everything right where you are without warning and too fast to interrupt it before too much damage is done. I often do a 'restore -r' into an existing -eg not newly newfs-ed, directory, but have to make sure I am clear about what I am doing. For example, I usually keep a large (large for my little stuff) drive mounted as '/work'. Within that filesystem I may create a directory such as './unroll' eg '/work/unroll' or some other similar name and mass restore a dump in to it using 'restore -r' so I can easily shuffle files around from the backup in to several new directories. If there are a bunch of destination directories, it is easier this way than doing a 'restore -i'. But, as said, I have to be careful just how I am using it. It works well. Have fun, ////jerry > > -- > Steve O'Hara-Smith > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 19:53:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F3D518 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 19:53:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AC910AB for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 19:53:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54873B8B9 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:53:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Confused by restore(8) man page example In-Reply-To: <63618304-837E-4B76-8157-D99C744AC72F@wolfhut.org> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:53:31 -0800 Message-ID: <8876.1362426811@server1.tristatelogic.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 19:53:32 -0000 In message <63618304-837E-4B76-8157-D99C744AC72F@wolfhut.org>, Ben Cottrell wrote: >I guess the same text in the man page could be read several >different ways! The way I read it (which may or may not be >correct) is that the example given is an example of how to >use it *correctly*. It sounds to me like it's warning against >deviating too far from the steps given in the example. > >I can see as how the text might allow other interpretations, >though! Thanks for the response Ben. As others have pointed out, it would probably be less confusing if the material starting with "An example:" were in a different paragraph. As the text stands now, first we have a sentence that gives a frightening warning about possible mangling of a disk/partition if restore -r is not used correctly, and then immediately following that is "An example:" with an example of _correct_ usage. I hope and trust that folks can understand my earlier befuddlement. Anyway, I have just now filed a PR suggesting a new paragraph at the appropriate point in the man page. Thanks to all who responded. Regards, rfg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 20:19:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3697AD3D for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 20:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBD811C7 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 20:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F79A3B669 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:19:09 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups using rsync In-Reply-To: <20130304125634.8450cfaf.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 12:19:09 -0800 Message-ID: <10012.1362428349@server1.tristatelogic.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 20:19:10 -0000 In message <20130304125634.8450cfaf.freebsd@edvax.de>, Polytropon wrote: >On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 03:35:30 -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >> Now, unfortunately, I have just been bitten by the evil... and apparently >> widely known (except to me)... ``You can't use dump(8) to dump a journaled >> filesystem with soft updates'' bug-a-boo. > >There are other tools you can use, for example tar or cpdup >or rsync, as you've mentioned in the subject. tar I already knew about, but I think you will agree that it has lots of limitations that make it entirely inappropriate for mirroring an entire system. This cpdup thing is entirely new to me. Thanks for mentioning it! I really never heard of it before, but I just now installed it from ports, and I'm perusing the man page. It looks very promising. Too bad it doesn't properly handle sparse files, but oh well. That's just a very minor nit. (Does it properly handle everything else that rsync claims to be able to properly handle, e.g. ACLs, file attributes, etc., etc.?) >The same problems that apply when dumping live systems can >bite you using rsync, What problems are we talking about, in particular? I am guessing that if I use rsync, then I *won't* encounter this rather annoying issue/problem relating to UFS filesystems that have both soft updates and journaling enabled, correct? >but support for this "on file system >level" seems to be better in rsync than what dump does "on >block level". What exactly did you mean by "this" ? >> If I use all of the following rsync options... -a,-H,-A, -X, and -S .... >> when trying to make my backups, and if I do whatever additional fiddling >> is necessary to insure that I separately copy over the MBR and boot loader >> also to my backup drive, then is there any reason that, in the event of >> a sudden meteor shower that takes out my primary disk drive while leaving >> my backup drive intact, I can't just unplug my old primary drive, plug in >> my (rsync-created) backup drive, reboot and be back in the sadddle again, >> almost immediately, and with -zero- problems? > >You would have to make sure _many_ things are consistent >on the backup disk. Well, this is what I am getting at. This is/was the whole point of my post and my question. I want to know: What is that set of things, exactly? >Regarding terminology, that would make the disk a failover disk OK. Thank you. I will henceforth use that terminology. >The disk would need to have an initialized file system and >a working boot mechanism, both things rsync does not deal with Check and check. I implicitly understood the former, and I explicitly mentioned the latter in my original post in this thread. But is there anything else, other than those two things (which, just as you say, are both clearly outside of the scope of what rsync does)? Anything else I need to do or worry about in order to be able to use rsync to create & maintain a full-blown fully-working system failover drive? If so, I'd much rather learn about it now... you know... as opposed to learning about it if and when I actually have to _use_ my failover drive. Regards, rfg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 20:38:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FC3134 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 20:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EED1261 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 20:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BD33B669 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 12:38:07 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups using rsync In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 12:38:07 -0800 Message-ID: <10173.1362429487@server1.tristatelogic.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 20:38:08 -0000 In message , Warren Block wrote: >Until SUJ has been deemed 100%, I avoid it and suggest others do also. >It can be disabled on an existing filesystem from single user mode. hehe Silly me! What do *I* know? I just go about my business and try not to create too much trouble for myself. To be honest and truthful I have to say that this journaling stuff entirely snuck up on me. I confess... I wasn't paying attention (to the world of FreeBSD innovations) and thus, when I moved myself recently to 9.x (from 8.3) I did so without even having been aware that the new filesystems that I was creating during my clean/fresh install of 9.1 had journaling turned on by default. (As the saying goes, I didn't get the memo.) Not that I mind, really. It sounds like a great concept and a great feature and I was happy to have it right up until the moment that "dump -L" told me to go pound sand. :-( So, um, I was reading about this last night, but I was sleepy and my eyes glazed over... Please remind me, what is the exact procedire for turning off the journaling? I boot to single user mode (from a live cd?) and then what? Is it tunefs with some special option? >> If I use all of the following rsync options... -a,-H,-A, -X, and -S .... >> when trying to make my backups, and if I do whatever additional fiddling >> is necessary to insure that I separately copy over the MBR and boot loader >> also to my backup drive, then is there any reason that, in the event of >> a sudden meteor shower that takes out my primary disk drive while leaving >> my backup drive intact, I can't just unplug my old primary drive, plug in >> my (rsync-created) backup drive, reboot and be back in the sadddle again, >> almost immediately, and with -zero- problems? > >It works. I use this to "slow mirror" SSDs to a hard disk, avoiding the >speed penalty of combining an SSD with a hard disk in RAID1. Great! Thanks Warren. >Use the latest net/rsync port, and enable the FLAGS option. I use these >options, copying each filesystem individually: > >-axHAXS --delete --fileflags --force-change Hummm... I guess that I have some non-current rsync installed. In the man page I have there is no mention of any "--force-change" option. What does it do? >Yes, the partitions and bootcode must be set up beforehand. After that, >it works. Good to know. Thanks again Warren. >Like any disk redundancy scheme, test it before an emergency. Naw. I like to live dangerously. :-) Regards, rfg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 21:12:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9B294D for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4941568 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1133B8B8 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:12:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Confused by restore(8) man page example Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:12:41 -0800 Message-ID: <10423.1362431561@server1.tristatelogic.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:12:56 -0000 In message <20130304151707.GC76266@jerrymc.net>, Jerry McAllister wrote: >This and the previous reply are correct. This example shows >a correct way to use 'restore -r' > >The '-r' flag causes it to write where you are cd-ed to without any >warning what you are doing or overwriting. If there are other files >in the directory that is to receive the files from a 'restore -r' has >other files, you may unexpectedly overwrite some of them. I'm thinking: If it is worth putting a warning into the man page, perhaps it is worth putting a warning into the code itself, to protect the unwary. Anybody here ever used Clonezilla? A nice useful tool. When Clonezilla runs, and when it is just about to overwrite a target drive, it first asks you explicitly "Do you really want to proceed (Y/n)?" After you respond "Y" it asks you again, one more time, the same question. I for one have never felt put upon by these safety catches. I know they are there for my own protection. Maybe restore should have something similar, along with some special option to disable the extra security check, you know, for use in non-interactive batch scripts. >Also, if >you are not cd-ed in to the correct place (the mount point, for example) >using the '-r' will quickly write all over whatever directory you >are cd-ed to without warning. In other words '-r' causes it to >splat out everything right where you are without warning and too fast >to interrupt it before too much damage is done. I understand. This is quite obviously different than "rm -fr *", but I can see how it could be equally disasterous. Regards, rfg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 21:37:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C25997 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (mtumishi.cyberleo.net [216.226.128.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4CF16DA for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (den.cyberleo.net [216.80.73.130]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5BD291264CF; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:37:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <51351410.4060600@cyberleo.net> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 15:37:20 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130228 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: backups using rsync References: <6126.1362396930@server1.tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <6126.1362396930@server1.tristatelogic.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:37:22 -0000 On 03/04/2013 05:35 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > As a result of this past Black Friday weekend, I now enjoy a true abundance > of disk space, for the first time in my life. > > I wanna make a full backup, on a weekly basis, of my main system's shiny > new 1TB drive onto another 1TB drive that I also picked up cheap back on > Black Friday. > > I've been planning to set this up for some long time now, but I've only > gotten 'round to working on it now. > > Now, unfortunately, I have just been bitten by the evil... and apparently > widely known (except to me)... ``You can't use dump(8) to dump a journaled > filesystem with soft updates'' bug-a-boo. You can use dump(8) to dump a SU-journaled filesystem; you just cannot create a snapshot. This implies that dump(8) will be run against the live and possibly changing filesystem, which can lead to issues with the consistency of the contents of files thus dumped; but not necessarily with the consistency of the dump itself. Any tool that backs up a live filesystem, such as rsync or tar, will have these issues. > Sigh. The best laid plans of mice and men... > > I _had_ planned on using dump/restore and making backups from live mounted > filesystems while the system was running. But I really don't want to have > to take the system down to single-user mode every week for a few hours while > I'm making my disk-to-disk backup. So now I'm looking at doing the backups > using rsync. I've used rsync to back up Linux and FreeBSD machines daily for years, and I've never had a problem with the backups nor subsequent restorations. Especially for restorations of the laptop that ate SSDs. Having a decent snapshot capability on the backup target filesystem can help a lot if you want to maintain multiple sparse backup revisions; otherwise, you're stuck using creative scripting around rsync's --link-dest option. > I see that rsync can nowadays properly cope with all sorts of oddities, > like fer instance device files, hard-linked files, ACLs, file attributes, > and all sorts of other unusual but important filesystem thingies. That's > good news, but I still have to ask the obvious question: > > If I use all of the following rsync options... -a,-H,-A, -X, and -S .... > when trying to make my backups, and if I do whatever additional fiddling > is necessary to insure that I separately copy over the MBR and boot loader > also to my backup drive, then is there any reason that, in the event of > a sudden meteor shower that takes out my primary disk drive while leaving > my backup drive intact, I can't just unplug my old primary drive, plug in > my (rsync-created) backup drive, reboot and be back in the sadddle again, > almost immediately, and with -zero- problems? There will /always/ be problems. The best you can do is become familiar with the tools and procedures so you can tackle them when they happen. My suggestion for something that you can use as a warm standby is to create it as a warm standby: go through the entire installation procedure again for the backup drive, and then use rsync or suchlike to periodically synchronize the second filesystem with the first. When you update the boot code on one, do so on the other. Be extremely careful if you decide to do this with both disks attached to the same machine: if you use geom labels (gpt, ufs, glabel, et alia) or dynamically numbered storage devices, you can easily run into a situation where a reboot with both devices attached suddenly starts using your backup instead without you realizing it, or flips back and forth. > P.S. My apologies if I've already asked this exact same question here > before. I'm getting a sense of deja vu... or else a feeling that I am > often running around in circles, chasing my own tail. > > P.P.S. Before anyone asks, no I really _do not_ want to just use RAID > as my one and only backup strategy. RAID is swell if your only problem > is hardware failures. As far as I know however it will not save your > bacon in the event of a fumble fingers "rm -rf *" moment. Only frequent > and routine actual backups can do that. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Furry Peace! - http://www.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 4 23:01:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEFD1BE for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 23:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lkchen@k-state.edu) Received: from ksu-out.merit.edu (ksu-out.merit.edu [207.75.117.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B34175 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 23:01:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Merit-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAFACsnNVHPS3TT/2dsb2JhbABEhlC5JINrFnOCHwEBBSNiDxgCAg0ZAksBDYgsn3eOVYlDiF2BI4wfH4FIgheBEwOIbJ5GgyaBTD0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,783,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="207071386" X-MERIT-SOURCE: KSU Received: from ksu-sfpop-mailstore02.merit.edu ([207.75.116.211]) by sfpop-ironport07.merit.edu with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2013 18:01:49 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 18:01:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1136349782.22539950.1362438108974.JavaMail.root@k-state.edu> In-Reply-To: <20130304125634.8450cfaf.freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: Re: backups using rsync MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [129.130.0.181] X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.2.2_GA_2852 (ZimbraWebClient - GC25 ([unknown])/7.2.2_GA_2852) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:01:50 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- > On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 03:35:30 -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > Now, unfortunately, I have just been bitten by the evil... and > > apparently > > widely known (except to me)... ``You can't use dump(8) to dump a > > journaled > > filesystem with soft updates'' bug-a-boo. > > There are other tools you can use, for example tar or cpdup > or rsync, as you've mentioned in the subject. > > Or if you want to be ambitious you could install something like 'sysutils/backuppc' (where one of its methods is rsync, its what I use for all the systems I back up with it. - Windows, Linux, Mac OSX.) And, then could get more than just the weekly rsync to it....though it could probably be made to only do fulls every week. But, you could potentially then restore from an older full. I do system fulls of my other systems to it...can't do a baremetal restore, but it can get me back up and running faster. IE: I recently had harddrive failures in a couple of FreeBSD systems. I did a fresh install and at first I restored /home and /usr/local (and some other dirs, like /var/db/pkg & /var/db/ports)...and then other dirs and files as I found things missing. Had to rebuild a handful of ports after that and then things were good. The second system didn't go as well, because it had been silently corrupting things for a long time before....but I still did the same kind of restore at first, but ended up rebuilding all the ports to get things good again. Not sure if losing the system disk, if I could recover from a local backuppc... but I have my old backuppc system, getting most of my current system (mainly omit the backuppc pool, think my backup storage requirements would grow exponentially if I didn't....my main backuppc pool is currently 6300G out of 7300G zpool.) But, I've suffered bit rot on the old backuppc pool in the past..when it was a RAID 1+0 array....probably worse now that its a 2.7TB volume without raid (the only volume on that system that isn't mirrored.) Though wonder if I want to try zfs on linux again, or replace it with FreeBSD. I was faced with something like this on my Windows box....where eventually, I ended up writing off restoring from the local backup (a commercial time machine like product)...the mistake was using a windows fake raid5 external array as my backup drive. And, losing the system due to problems in the fake raid. I did briefly put together a CentOS live CD that could access the array, but the drives I copied the data to promptly failed on me shortly after I had broken the array and turned them into a raidz pool. Someday I need to get back to going through the disk image of the failed system drive and recover as much as possible from that. The box that was my Windows desktop is now my FreeBSD desktop.... Lawrence From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 01:29:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751F5912 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 01:29:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5B7794 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 01:29:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r251T3Rb071490; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 18:29:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r251Sx5w071487; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 18:29:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 18:28:59 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: backups using rsync In-Reply-To: <10173.1362429487@server1.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: References: <10173.1362429487@server1.tristatelogic.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:29:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 01:29:04 -0000 On Mon, 4 Mar 2013, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > So, um, I was reading about this last night, but I was sleepy and my eyes > glazed over... Please remind me, what is the exact procedire for turning > off the journaling? I boot to single user mode (from a live cd?) and > then what? Is it tunefs with some special option? Just boot in single user mode so all the filesystems are unmounted or mounted readonly. Then use 'tunefs -j disable /dev/...'. It will also mention the name of the journal file, which can be deleted. >> Use the latest net/rsync port, and enable the FLAGS option. I use these >> options, copying each filesystem individually: >> >> -axHAXS --delete --fileflags --force-change > > Hummm... I guess that I have some non-current rsync installed. In the man > page I have there is no mention of any "--force-change" option. What does > it do? "affect user/system immutable files/dirs". Probably only included in the man page when the port is built with the FLAGS option set. An additional note: the script that runs my rsync backup also modifies the mirrored /etc/fstab to use the appropriate labels for the backup filesystems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 05:50:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B6DD3D for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 05:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768691C1 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 05:50:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.174.41.192] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UCklD-00074k-6Z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 06:49:59 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r255nvCK002394 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 06:49:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id r255nv3R002393 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 06:49:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 06:49:56 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Confused by restore(8) man page example Message-ID: <20130305054956.GA2339@tinyCurrent> References: <10423.1362431561@server1.tristatelogic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <10423.1362431561@server1.tristatelogic.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 188.174.41.192 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 05:50:06 -0000 El día Monday, March 04, 2013 a las 01:12:41PM -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette escribió: > I'm thinking: If it is worth putting a warning into the man page, > perhaps it is worth putting a warning into the code itself, to > protect the unwary. > > Anybody here ever used Clonezilla? A nice useful tool. > > When Clonezilla runs, and when it is just about to overwrite a target > drive, it first asks you explicitly "Do you really want to proceed (Y/n)?" > > After you respond "Y" it asks you again, one more time, the same question. > > I for one have never felt put upon by these safety catches. I know they > are there for my own protection. ... In the old days of UNIX V7 when newfs(8) was still mkfs(8), there was also a last and final question "Last chance before scribbling on disk." to answer. And even after you hit ENTER to confirm, there was an internal wait of some 5 secs to let you interrupt with Ctrl-C in case of error. 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Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Questions @ FreeBSD" Subject: Problems Printing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 08:10:56 -0000 Cups is setup so I should be able to print: http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/problems/cups-printer.png My pdf reader sees the printer: http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/problems/printer-there.png yet it won't print and delivers this dialog: http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/problems/print-error.png any ideas on how to correct this? -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. 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Nagy, Jr" Subject: Re: Problems Printing Message-ID: <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.153.192 Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:57:35 -0000 El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 02:10:51AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr escribió: > Cups is setup so I should be able to print: > http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/problems/cups-printer.png > > My pdf reader sees the printer: > http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/problems/printer-there.png > > yet it won't print and delivers this dialog: > http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/problems/print-error.png > > any ideas on how to correct this? Looks like you have FreeBSD's lpr(1) in front of CUPS' lpr(1) in /usr/local/bin/lpr in your PATH; just do as root: # chmod 0000 /usr/bin/lpr matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz | - No system with backdoors like Apple/Android E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | - Never being an iSlave WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | - No proprietary attachments, no HTML/RTF in E-mail phone: +49-170-4527211 | - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 10:20:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0184F5BA for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnagyjr1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gg0-x22b.google.com (mail-gg0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c02::22b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD7631B for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gg0-f171.google.com with SMTP id j1so951187ggn.30 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 02:20:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Yd5KX4lNJyCsqatC64MNJL6+Gb4QntYITxbGMBfEM+4=; b=iwAJTG14wYOrL52TajyIjryzyvdxMQbiOlSl3xvzgu7om7PvyeQdNdY1sqOzj89fy9 nlGcbL6CvxQlSD0+fn32mGn1fouGuKOnZ4x9DTWrBVZKLLeekwlsdAbzVymffoY0JVEn YIrDEf6UT5QO89cKRDzx044Wwo95bQ5nuCTO/kMGg0HrgJqwZvMRwaq24Unc9lDDH1ac N2GgBdb8+OvkKjroujNOS1WCZLr7RsplZWW7X70Tx2Maxzas4oijrMfYa0FW0FZ9mN++ 6sqanYM2TTra3TrkxlwEQdbBC7YGfHC+QXFHUFTDOyONskGT/b1D3xNLLC0URe5ojWD3 PfAg== X-Received: by 10.236.79.9 with SMTP id h9mr16505592yhe.83.1362478843288; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 02:20:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (vid-196.dhcp.grp10.tnmmrl.infoave.net. [204.116.254.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s74sm5757184yhh.5.2013.03.05.02.20.39 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Mar 2013 02:20:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5135C6F5.6040002@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 04:20:37 -0600 From: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen Subject: Re: SV: Problems Printing References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:20:44 -0000 On 03/05/13 03:44, Leslie Jensen wrote: > I've had problems when I haven't set the printer to server default. I > use xpdf and print with the printer choice lp The printer is set as the default printer, I cannot print from any application, but acroread9 is the only one to pop up an error message. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 10:29:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195B0765 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C237C3D2 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.153.192] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UCp86-0000ga-NG; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:29:55 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r25ATqiY001333; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:29:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id r25ATq6r001332; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:29:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:29:51 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" Subject: Re: Problems Printing Message-ID: <20130305102951.GA1325@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135C776.9000603@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <5135C776.9000603@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.153.192 Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:29:57 -0000 El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 04:22:46AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr escribió: > The lpr error message is now gone, but no printing activity is going on. ): Try first printing a simple text file or even stdin from the cmd line, like: $ date | lpr -Pfoo if this works, check the CUPS log files what the problem might be when you print from your whatever graphical tool. matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz | - No system with backdoors like Apple/Android E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | - Never being an iSlave WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | - No proprietary attachments, no HTML/RTF in E-mail phone: +49-170-4527211 | - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 10:46:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26E2986 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yh0-x22c.google.com (mail-yh0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::22c]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475DE63E for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:46:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f44.google.com with SMTP id q11so964109yhf.31 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 02:46:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :reply-to:organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UDU8em4W3JpbsD+h2138b4+hDqKspof5Bd2L5Tb61xU=; b=P/+kpEIhUOJSlQDpp+WOFKTx2u9uiK8t4KOew8am57jOA2h6fw3fq+WFKfYbTG1WRw nhaJxBUt3ORq9Twc2c4DTmxvR97OYbP7lqcEmU4daWFIkpDuxQP2+sPsOIV49Z7UzGbJ AJldlnOk176mkib9Xi1rI79SHTzxOwOuF3eTk= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :reply-to:organization:x-mailer:face:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=UDU8em4W3JpbsD+h2138b4+hDqKspof5Bd2L5Tb61xU=; b=dkqthfTS0vc5KlSQ9U761ThZyD+opqDeNDDFXV9iqnM9j0l6PLXpgqJLWIdqOD87J1 H2hOP3avc70mM+CXRWEIk0PX5m8VI0CUawFSXbAuZF4o34xv87fQQIgZDYOiY8WzoLED lhdasH3PCvZ9j5UjLoAm7buS//0S0pHc6bdP2S5RKOJwJ/nGP0EnDmKtddIwOmBXN+D6 6lhIqIc0KnpynfdiH/olhW3RmKlxxwgwJFFwu2jHyoRRXBjvi/tW0ZZkbgtC7a6o5ZX3 GnAFBcf89W/Ee4SgZXs0UKpm4bBE9R8GjVD0iKK/jnYNKrRMpz8nqSWzGzZaHKUwbeO9 exuw== X-Received: by 10.236.92.37 with SMTP id i25mr16551467yhf.48.1362480364628; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 02:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x16sm5841431yhj.6.2013.03.05.02.46.03 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Mar 2013 02:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3ZKvsQ2Y4Hz2CG47 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 05:46:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 05:46:01 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Problems Printing Message-ID: <20130305054601.52571210@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl96w88K5VshXyb3NyS1NOyQS6wPzpdgbIvBJDw/YZeqwTPBFNjtEzU0GszHSVggRS7shPr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:46:05 -0000 On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:57:30 +0100 Matthias Apitz articulated: > El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 02:10:51AM -0600, Joseph A. > Nagy, Jr escribió: > > > Cups is setup so I should be able to print: > > http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/problems/cups-printer.png > > > > My pdf reader sees the printer: > > http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/problems/printer-there.png > > > > yet it won't print and delivers this dialog: > > http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/problems/print-error.png > > > > any ideas on how to correct this? > > Looks like you have FreeBSD's lpr(1) in front of CUPS' lpr(1) in > /usr/local/bin/lpr in your PATH; just do as root: > > # chmod 0000 /usr/bin/lpr A long time ago, I don't remember by whom or when, I was told to put this in the "/etc/make.conf" file: WITH_CUPS=YES CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES WITHOUT_LPR=YES Then rebuild the system and re-install CUPS and all would be well. I did it and it worked so I guess it was okay to do. Was that info actually correct or did I just luck out? -- Jerry â™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 10:50:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BFBB55 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:50:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnagyjr1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yh0-x22b.google.com (mail-yh0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::22b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F26680 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f43.google.com with SMTP id z6so953563yhz.16 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 02:50:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fcIPX6/1qvEEuEcpuEru9Xewx7M0qGEBmmGw8ICXTBs=; b=C2hRo2PqU1su9ugQSLrpnSjwz1y1L6z46cU80pW2SiSWdtjRtMEaRRCpdncE7+1aBM ysWJF7f1TDADtW8XVWJoIpYnUQ6PkooCHe+dy+kBAHEqqvDu0IozXTP/oEk9phREVtsu ldo+Z64t1E7QqdVH589w6LcpHLguqH48DC0CsQ6yX8UcplTyCt7EyijSkLirtEvEyrb+ KiInaSDUOi4QbJ4A5uzh9WltWwyNzoTpyUEn/w8p3VdoSYd3oBnO+kY81ezxSEeTR91E /vo1a+EbqhEZuxc4hVqB2VQjpgUbDEruY14LB2ggt3ya4P/EuRIN5FN7X9pV0nUwqzSS 9R7A== X-Received: by 10.236.74.1 with SMTP id w1mr16969955yhd.176.1362480626491; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 02:50:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (vid-196.dhcp.grp10.tnmmrl.infoave.net. 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Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Problems Printing References: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> <20130305054601.52571210@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20130305054601.52571210@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Jerry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:50:27 -0000 On 03/05/13 04:46, Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:57:30 +0100 > Matthias Apitz articulated: > >> El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 02:10:51AM -0600, Joseph A. >> Nagy, Jr escribió: >> >>> Cups is setup so I should be able to print: >>> http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/problems/cups-printer.png >>> >>> My pdf reader sees the printer: >>> http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/problems/printer-there.png >>> >>> yet it won't print and delivers this dialog: >>> http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/problems/print-error.png >>> >>> any ideas on how to correct this? >> >> Looks like you have FreeBSD's lpr(1) in front of CUPS' lpr(1) in >> /usr/local/bin/lpr in your PATH; just do as root: >> >> # chmod 0000 /usr/bin/lpr > > A long time ago, I don't remember by whom or when, I was told to put > this in the "/etc/make.conf" file: > > WITH_CUPS=YES > CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES > WITHOUT_LPR=YES > > Then rebuild the system and re-install CUPS and all would be well. I > did it and it worked so I guess it was okay to do. Was that info > actually correct or did I just luck out? > It might be right, but it isn't helping. That's already in my make.conf -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. 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Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: Problems Printing References: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:51:26 -0000 On 03/05/13 03:57, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 02:10:51AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr escribió: > >> Cups is setup so I should be able to print: >> http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/problems/cups-printer.png >> >> My pdf reader sees the printer: >> http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/problems/printer-there.png >> >> yet it won't print and delivers this dialog: >> http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/problems/print-error.png >> >> any ideas on how to correct this? > > Looks like you have FreeBSD's lpr(1) in front of CUPS' lpr(1) in > /usr/local/bin/lpr in your PATH; just do as root: > > # chmod 0000 /usr/bin/lpr > > matthias > The lpr error message is now gone, but no printing activity is going on. ): -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 11:10:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66624E5 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE2A77C for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:10:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.153.192] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UCpln-0005ag-Fp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:10:55 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r25BArnO001441 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:10:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id r25BAqff001440 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:10:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:10:52 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Problems Printing Message-ID: <20130305111051.GA1427@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> <20130305054601.52571210@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20130305054601.52571210@scorpio> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.153.192 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:10:58 -0000 El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 05:46:01AM -0500, Jerry escribió: > > Looks like you have FreeBSD's lpr(1) in front of CUPS' lpr(1) in > > /usr/local/bin/lpr in your PATH; just do as root: > > > > # chmod 0000 /usr/bin/lpr > > A long time ago, I don't remember by whom or when, I was told to put > this in the "/etc/make.conf" file: > > WITH_CUPS=YES > CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES > WITHOUT_LPR=YES > > Then rebuild the system and re-install CUPS and all would be well. I > did it and it worked so I guess it was okay to do. Was that info > actually correct or did I just luck out? yes, correct; this will a) not install lpr in the base system, but b) allow later CUPS to do a symlink from /usr/bin/lpr to /usr/local/bin/lpr; I did not want to send the OP to a complete rebuild for such a small issue :-) matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz | - No system with backdoors like Apple/Android E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | - Never being an iSlave WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | - No proprietary attachments, no HTML/RTF in E-mail phone: +49-170-4527211 | - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 11:30:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A4EB48 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnagyjr1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gg0-x233.google.com (mail-gg0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c02::233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD91823 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-gg0-f179.google.com with SMTP id h4so957295ggn.38 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 03:30:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pgf5Z7EAGCo3RgGyVcyQbID6/dsWMBO/yfp0nXtp1IM=; b=K88kAi+97194rqG0eYEGddlyYj1PJTeszp/SrM3suxksLPAnaUiLKRcNi8EToD/xxO ENSN+Oy+VQU5A1TNCw3dvQcMAwbfutcka6Z686a3o5zJ8ZppoPrXxRObyll3FHVqIHDQ PA6qKZm+dqz9LmaPwIjCT5JaEdIs+e9BDgYkFnzKGjZl4LEA75CsCrvjkvBUt62DrVQE SLUgDiKvhn/IPtE13H8z4ibG9LZB0u7HQu36N+fxKOL61TKmMGZYnMXN83dq79hcqH+B /BQurnuV5t4L7lZQt1pIvNH+RoYMvU9d0f+s1Ox/V1BUpe93xsNs+1UEDo6EF5TaspVX eguA== X-Received: by 10.236.114.37 with SMTP id b25mr16627053yhh.85.1362483049087; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 03:30:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (vid-196.dhcp.grp10.tnmmrl.infoave.net. 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Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: Problems Printing References: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> <20130305054601.52571210@scorpio> <20130305111051.GA1427@tiny.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20130305111051.GA1427@tiny.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:30:49 -0000 On 03/05/13 05:10, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 05:46:01AM -0500, Jerry escribió: > >>> Looks like you have FreeBSD's lpr(1) in front of CUPS' lpr(1) in >>> /usr/local/bin/lpr in your PATH; just do as root: >>> >>> # chmod 0000 /usr/bin/lpr >> >> A long time ago, I don't remember by whom or when, I was told to put >> this in the "/etc/make.conf" file: >> >> WITH_CUPS=YES >> CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES >> WITHOUT_LPR=YES >> >> Then rebuild the system and re-install CUPS and all would be well. I >> did it and it worked so I guess it was okay to do. Was that info >> actually correct or did I just luck out? > > yes, correct; this will a) not install lpr in the base system, but b) > allow later CUPS to do a symlink from /usr/bin/lpr to > /usr/local/bin/lpr; > > I did not want to send the OP to a complete rebuild for such a small > issue :-) > > matthias > Not a small issue for me, tbh, and libffi, pcre, and icu I pretty much do the same for. buildworld and installworld, then? -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 11:36:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DABA0C13 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFAC84B for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.153.192] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UCqAM-0000NG-Bx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:36:18 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r25BaGbq001502 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:36:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id r25BaFUJ001501 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:36:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:36:15 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Problems Printing Message-ID: <20130305113614.GA1494@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> <20130305054601.52571210@scorpio> <20130305111051.GA1427@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135D764.1060303@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <5135D764.1060303@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.153.192 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:36:19 -0000 El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 05:30:44AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr escribió: > >> WITH_CUPS=YES > >> CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES > >> WITHOUT_LPR=YES > >> > >> Then rebuild the system and re-install CUPS and all would be well. I > >> did it and it worked so I guess it was okay to do. Was that info > >> actually correct or did I just luck out? > > > > yes, correct; this will a) not install lpr in the base system, but b) > > allow later CUPS to do a symlink from /usr/bin/lpr to > > /usr/local/bin/lpr; > > > > I did not want to send the OP to a complete rebuild for such a small > > issue :-) > > > > matthias > > > > Not a small issue for me, tbh, and libffi, pcre, and icu I pretty much > do the same for. buildworld and installworld, then? no; just fix the problem as I said in my first reply; matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz | - No system with backdoors like Apple/Android E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | - Never being an iSlave WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | - No proprietary attachments, no HTML/RTF in E-mail phone: +49-170-4527211 | - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 11:43:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D45E0C for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB578881 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout07 with smtp id 7nfv1l00D516WCc01nfw92; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:39:57 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H5sFNZki c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=0mSdd2qgEcEA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=ogqYsW8TKToA:10 a=gFUML705QdSBBVpRpMsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1UCqDr-0001Gm-IK; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:39:55 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: Matthias Apitz Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:39:54 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.9.5; amd64; ; ) References: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201303051139.54865.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Subject: Re: Problems Printing Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Cc: "Questions @ FreeBSD" , "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:43:07 -0000 On Tuesday 05 Mar 2013 09:57:30 Matthias Apitz wrote: > Looks like you have FreeBSD's lpr(1) in front of CUPS' lpr(1) in > /usr/local/bin/lpr in your PATH; just do as root: > > # chmod 0000 /usr/bin/lpr And for full CUPS functionality you should do the same for /usr/bin/lp, /usr/bin/lpq and /usr/bin/lprm -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 11:52:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F37E3 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnagyjr1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-x235.google.com (mail-ia0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AF88DA for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f181.google.com with SMTP id w33so5880287iag.26 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 03:52:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lCmhab6bYG1103NqwvbDYG1mIHmO/0GrfUOVP/1a9SM=; b=u3Dp2bdkzAbtGVnowdkOXOq/f8//XoLfPANaubJHcV72Y+sHEbVJsB1xw5ENbjj5f1 F+84SsNzqkN8c8wRm5MyIO6YPIitux4d0/2NpK+GnN7ma0R60vh+0oSw+95GDS2+xpjp X4BwP53blZW7aLqIzbStQj5Jb83cvTzJBE96YuZfmZf676Kruc5CDziJo2ffbWeqrLUX 8a1oj52hrXWTSCae6I8Q6Bd7o5094FsVmB0fWACwIkMYXOcf8rIskAfUna8N3I30qpYk AJ45O15liSOUC4MDNpayA2J2a0iuUG1tP3wHJU3HsBAMC4TXlTm5J9j2iVIfo1/ItDyb RvXw== X-Received: by 10.50.212.74 with SMTP id ni10mr5859457igc.60.1362484379281; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 03:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (vid-196.dhcp.grp10.tnmmrl.infoave.net. 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Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: Problems Printing References: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135C776.9000603@gmail.com> <20130305102951.GA1325@tiny.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20130305102951.GA1325@tiny.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk, "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:52:59 -0000 On 03/05/13 04:29, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 04:22:46AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr escribió: > >> The lpr error message is now gone, but no printing activity is going on. ): > > Try first printing a simple text file or even stdin from the cmd line, > like: > > $ date | lpr -Pfoo > > if this works, check the CUPS log files what the problem might be when > you print from your whatever graphical tool. > > matthias > # date | lpr -Pfoo lpr: The printer or class does not exist. /var/log/cups/# less error_log X [05/Mar/2013:05:45:41 -0600] kevent() returned Bad file descriptor W [05/Mar/2013:05:45:57 -0600] [CGI] Missing NickName and ModelName in /usr/local/share/cups/model/foomatic-db-ppds/Brother/BR5070DN_GPL.ppd.gz! W [05/Mar/2013:05:45:57 -0600] [CGI] Missing NickName and ModelName in /usr/local/share/cups/model/foomatic-db-ppds/Epson/eplp830c.ppd.gz! W [05/Mar/2013:05:45:57 -0600] [CGI] Missing NickName and ModelName in /usr/local/share/cups/model/foomatic-db-ppds/Epson/eplp850c.ppd.gz! W [05/Mar/2013:05:45:57 -0600] [CGI] Missing NickName and ModelName in /usr/local/share/cups/model/foomatic-db-ppds/Epson/eplp880c.ppd.gz! W [05/Mar/2013:05:45:57 -0600] [CGI] Missing NickName and ModelName in /usr/local/share/cups/model/foomatic-db-ppds/Epson/eplp9100.ppd.gz! W [05/Mar/2013:05:45:57 -0600] [CGI] Missing NickName and ModelName in /usr/local/share/cups/model/foomatic-db-ppds/Epson/eplp920c.ppd.gz! W [05/Mar/2013:05:45:57 -0600] [CGI] Missing NickName and ModelName in /usr/local/share/cups/model/foomatic-db-ppds/Epson/eplp950c.ppd.gz! W [05/Mar/2013:05:45:57 -0600] [CGI] Missing NickName and ModelName in /usr/local/share/cups/model/foomatic-db-ppds/Epson/eplp960s.ppd.gz! W [05/Mar/2013:05:45:57 -0600] [CGI] Missing NickName and ModelName in /usr/local/share/cups/model/foomatic-db-ppds/Epson/eplp980c.ppd.gz! W [05/Mar/2013:05:45:57 -0600] [CGI] Missing NickName and ModelName in /usr/local/share/cups/model/foomatic-db-ppds/KONICA_MINOLTA/KOC451JX.ppd.gz! E [05/Mar/2013:05:45:57 -0600] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information file "/usr/local/share/cups/model/foomatic-db-ppds/Kyocera/ReadMe.htm"! E [05/Mar/2013:05:45:57 -0600] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information file "/usr/local/share/cups/model/foomatic-db-ppds/Kyocera/kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt"! not sure why its using Kyocera when I told cups the printer is a Pixma MP210 (using the gutenprint driver). /var/log/cups/# less access_log localhost - root [05/Mar/2013:05:45:48 -0600] "POST /admin/ HTTP/1.1" 200 168 CUPS-Delete-Printer successful-ok (I decided to delete the printer and reinstall it) localhost - - [05/Mar/2013:05:45:55 -0600] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 401 112 CUPS-Get-Devices successful-ok localhost - root [05/Mar/2013:05:45:55 -0600] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 1586 CUPS-Get-Devices - localhost - root [05/Mar/2013:05:45:57 -0600] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 200 4558380 CUPS-Get-PPDs - localhost - - [05/Mar/2013:05:47:18 -0600] "POST /admin/ HTTP/1.1" 401 393 CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer successful-ok localhost - root [05/Mar/2013:05:47:18 -0600] "POST /admin/ HTTP/1.1" 200 393 CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer successful-ok localhost - - [05/Mar/2013:05:47:24 -0600] "POST /printers/foo HTTP/1.1" 200 172 Create-Job client-error-not-found localhost - - [05/Mar/2013:05:47:36 -0600] "POST /printers/foo HTTP/1.1" 200 172 Create-Job client-error-not-found Also, to Mike: On 03/05/13 05:39, Mike Clarke wrote:> On Tuesday 05 Mar 2013 09:57:30 Matthias Apitz wrote: > >> Looks like you have FreeBSD's lpr(1) in front of CUPS' lpr(1) in >> /usr/local/bin/lpr in your PATH; just do as root: >> >> # chmod 0000 /usr/bin/lpr > > And for full CUPS functionality you should do the same for /usr/bin/lp, > /usr/bin/lpq and /usr/bin/lprm > I did that before deleting and re-adding the printer. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 12:20:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC44AD73 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC76A92 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.153.192] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UCqqg-0004Qt-EF; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:20:03 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r25CK0AN001593; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:20:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id r25CJxPb001592; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:19:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:19:58 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" Subject: Re: Problems Printing Message-ID: <20130305121957.GA1581@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135C776.9000603@gmail.com> <20130305102951.GA1325@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135DC95.4000800@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <5135DC95.4000800@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.153.192 Cc: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk, "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:20:05 -0000 El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 05:52:53AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr escribió: > On 03/05/13 04:29, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 04:22:46AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr escribió: > > > >> The lpr error message is now gone, but no printing activity is going on. ): > > > > Try first printing a simple text file or even stdin from the cmd line, > > like: > > > > $ date | lpr -Pfoo > > > > if this works, check the CUPS log files what the problem might be when > > you print from your whatever graphical tool. > > > > matthias > > > # date | lpr -Pfoo > lpr: The printer or class does not exist. what is the name of your printer in CUPS? You named it "foo"? Please try it to configure as well as a Generic Postscript printer; matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz | - No system with backdoors like Apple/Android E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | - Never being an iSlave WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | - No proprietary attachments, no HTML/RTF in E-mail phone: +49-170-4527211 | - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 12:38:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E16416B for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:38:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnagyjr1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ia0-x232.google.com (mail-ia0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11016B52 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f178.google.com with SMTP id y26so5877869iab.23 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 04:38:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DQ7liqpucPNEAYtfkaHH23/DZ8xPI0GOsQRohkAJscw=; b=MiYd9DMLARznmfo1CQKyOIx2CdR1aMEYO3zlWHDMKPK1GH/w1fDW9uQAs6c2vGm64F kqqK5UEHW6vaw5nGNYnvv45TC7ZricYCsD0WI8Qe7SA0cUjWs4WTf0hr91TPc32VcVhF KzlCaDGTzQVuEXrolNr8VqINnN9VpJ7rrcbdTPtlraz0TDh9VjrGkgCvWVbxDOMJyLGf sCDvY4ojkRrzfp5Q2PxgzC1KAKi0XPo0E9McWAeSIEwtiLGThCtokOHohsL72ALX5D0o dymZHO7q0XXfNRsOZ0EsYzTZoCACEmqHVNsXBMz8AtNt8adzMh80l+wu3/MNTZXZgnPt N+Pw== X-Received: by 10.43.134.202 with SMTP id id10mr26615717icc.46.1362487109221; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 04:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (vid-196.dhcp.grp10.tnmmrl.infoave.net. 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Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: Problems Printing References: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135C776.9000603@gmail.com> <20130305102951.GA1325@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135DC95.4000800@gmail.com> <20130305121957.GA1581@tiny.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20130305121957.GA1581@tiny.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk, "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:38:30 -0000 On 03/05/13 06:19, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 05:52:53AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr escribió: > >> On 03/05/13 04:29, Matthias Apitz wrote: >>> El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 04:22:46AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr escribió: >>> >>>> The lpr error message is now gone, but no printing activity is going on. ): >>> >>> Try first printing a simple text file or even stdin from the cmd line, >>> like: >>> >>> $ date | lpr -Pfoo >>> >>> if this works, check the CUPS log files what the problem might be when >>> you print from your whatever graphical tool. >>> >>> matthias >>> >> # date | lpr -Pfoo >> lpr: The printer or class does not exist. > > what is the name of your printer in CUPS? You named it "foo"? > Please try it to configure as well as a Generic Postscript printer; > > matthias > Sorry, I haven't had sleep for 24 hours. It's named PIXMA. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 12:49:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0517313 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A198CC02 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.153.192] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UCrJW-0001FX-Pq; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:49:51 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r25CnmFd001662; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:49:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id r25CnllQ001661; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:49:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:49:47 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" Subject: Re: Problems Printing Message-ID: <20130305124946.GA1653@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135C776.9000603@gmail.com> <20130305102951.GA1325@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135DC95.4000800@gmail.com> <20130305121957.GA1581@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135E740.1080808@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <5135E740.1080808@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.153.192 Cc: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk, "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:49:52 -0000 El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 06:38:24AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr escribió: > >> # date | lpr -Pfoo > >> lpr: The printer or class does not exist. > > > > what is the name of your printer in CUPS? You named it "foo"? > > Please try it to configure as well as a Generic Postscript printer; > > > > matthias > > > > Sorry, I haven't had sleep for 24 hours. It's named PIXMA. then the test is $ date | lpr -PPIXMA matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz | - No system with backdoors like Apple/Android E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | - Never being an iSlave WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | - No proprietary attachments, no HTML/RTF in E-mail phone: +49-170-4527211 | - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 14:59:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97558833 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454646A9 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-109-47.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.109.47]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5AD3CE9A; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:59:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r25Ex7tJ052810; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:59:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:59:07 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: backups using rsync Message-Id: <20130305155907.004c7b57.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <10012.1362428349@server1.tristatelogic.com> References: <20130304125634.8450cfaf.freebsd@edvax.de> <10012.1362428349@server1.tristatelogic.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:59:12 -0000 On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 12:19:09 -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message <20130304125634.8450cfaf.freebsd@edvax.de>, > Polytropon wrote: > > >On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 03:35:30 -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >> Now, unfortunately, I have just been bitten by the evil... and apparently > >> widely known (except to me)... ``You can't use dump(8) to dump a journaled > >> filesystem with soft updates'' bug-a-boo. > > > >There are other tools you can use, for example tar or cpdup > >or rsync, as you've mentioned in the subject. > > tar I already knew about, but I think you will agree that it has lots of > limitations that make it entirely inappropriate for mirroring an entire > system. That's true. If your purpose is "backup of data files", tar is a good tool, especially for cross-platform use. But if you need to deal with "exceptional" things like extended permissions, ACL, sparse files and such, you will quickly see its limits. On the other hand, it can be used for multi-volume savesets, but this is not your intention. > This cpdup thing is entirely new to me. Thanks for mentioning it! I really > never heard of it before, but I just now installed it from ports, and I'm > perusing the man page. It's a little bit comparable to rsync and can also do things like "only add" (so you won't lose any files: if they are removed in source, they will be kept in backup). It also has limitations that rsync will not. > It looks very promising. Too bad it doesn't > properly handle sparse files, but oh well. That's just a very minor nit. > (Does it properly handle everything else that rsync claims to be able to > properly handle, e.g. ACLs, file attributes, etc., etc.?) That's something you should check with an "example dataset" you back up, restore, and compare. I've been using it for "normal files" successfully. > >The same problems that apply when dumping live systems can > >bite you using rsync, > > What problems are we talking about, in particular? The problems I'm refering to is the kind of _possible_ trouble you can get into when backing up files that keep changing. The ability to make a snapshot prior to starting the backup is a great help here (if you don't have the chance to unmount the partitions to backup). I can't imagine _how_ programs will react if they start reading a file, prepare sufficient space in some kind of TOC, then continue reading while the file grows... or if a file is being read which is removed during read... If you minimize the writing activity to the (still) _live_ data you're dealing with, that could be a benefit. > I am guessing that if I use rsync, then I *won't* encounter this rather > annoying issue/problem relating to UFS filesystems that have both soft > updates and journaling enabled, correct? > > >but support for this "on file system > >level" seems to be better in rsync than what dump does "on > >block level". > > What exactly did you mean by "this" ? As mentioned above: Unexpected and unpredictable results, strange kinds of inconsistency, may they appear during backup or later on restore. > >> If I use all of the following rsync options... -a,-H,-A, -X, and -S .... > >> when trying to make my backups, and if I do whatever additional fiddling > >> is necessary to insure that I separately copy over the MBR and boot loader > >> also to my backup drive, then is there any reason that, in the event of > >> a sudden meteor shower that takes out my primary disk drive while leaving > >> my backup drive intact, I can't just unplug my old primary drive, plug in > >> my (rsync-created) backup drive, reboot and be back in the sadddle again, > >> almost immediately, and with -zero- problems? > > > >You would have to make sure _many_ things are consistent > >on the backup disk. > > Well, this is what I am getting at. This is/was the whole point of my post > and my question. I want to know: What is that set of things, exactly? The backup disk (or failover disk, as I said) needs to be initialized properly prior to the first backup run: Make sure it's bootable. Depending on how you handle identification of the disk (by device name, by label or UFSID) and how you're going to boot from it (by selecting the failover disk in some post-BIOS/POST dialog or by swapping cables or bays), you should check it actually starts booting. > >Regarding terminology, that would make the disk a failover disk > > OK. Thank you. I will henceforth use that terminology. Just a suggestion from how you described you will be using the disk, which isn't what commonly (or mostly) is expressed by the term "backup" (also cf. "archive" which is something entirely different). > >The disk would need to have an initialized file system and > >a working boot mechanism, both things rsync does not deal with > > Check and check. I implicitly understood the former, and I explicitly > mentioned the latter in my original post in this thread. > > But is there anything else, other than those two things (which, just as > you say, are both clearly outside of the scope of what rsync does)? > Anything else I need to do or worry about in order to be able to use > rsync to create & maintain a full-blown fully-working system failover > drive? I don't think so, the provided summary seems to be complete from my understanding. > If so, I'd much rather learn about it now... you know... as opposed > to learning about it if and when I actually have to _use_ my failover > drive. No. That's the case when you learn about forensic analysis and disaster recovery. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 14:59:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9114C8C8 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6981A6B3 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:59:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819C533C40; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:59:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id AEE6C3983C; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:59:14 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Andrew Pack Subject: Re: VIA PV530 References: <1362351402.61999.YahooMailNeo@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:59:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1362351402.61999.YahooMailNeo@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> (Andrew Pack's message of "Sun, 3 Mar 2013 14:56:42 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <441ubt51vh.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:59:26 -0000 Andrew Pack writes: > Does anyone have any experience running FreeBSD on this platform? > Unless I'm mistaken, I could't find it listed under the new release > compatibility list.=A0 I haven't used that one specifically, but Via processors have worked fine for me, including the power and encryption facilities. 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[217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k5sm23352391wiy.5.2013.03.05.08.00.26 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Mar 2013 08:00:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:00:23 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Re: backups using rsync Message-ID: <20130305160021.GA9376@saturn> References: <6126.1362396930@server1.tristatelogic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6126.1362396930@server1.tristatelogic.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:00:30 -0000 On 2013-03-04 03:35, "Ronald F. Guilmette" wrote: > As a result of this past Black Friday weekend, I now enjoy a true > abundance of disk space, for the first time in my life. > > I wanna make a full backup, on a weekly basis, of my main system's > shiny new 1TB drive onto another 1TB drive that I also picked up cheap > back on Black Friday. > > I've been planning to set this up for some long time now, but I've > only gotten 'round to working on it now. > > Now, unfortunately, I have just been bitten by the evil... and > apparently widely known (except to me)... ``You can't use dump(8) to > dump a journaled filesystem with soft updates'' bug-a-boo. > > Sigh. The best laid plans of mice and men... > > I _had_ planned on using dump/restore and making backups from live mounted > filesystems while the system was running. But I really don't want to have > to take the system down to single-user mode every week for a few hours while > I'm making my disk-to-disk backup. So now I'm looking at doing the backups > using rsync. Yes, this should be possible... One thing that can bite you when using rsync to traverse & copy large filesystems is that the filesystem may still be changing beneath rsync *as it's doing* the copy. If this is a UFS2 filesystem, it may be a good idea to snapshot the filesystem, and then rsync-backup the snapshot instead. 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[217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q13sm22283004wie.0.2013.03.05.08.12.06 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Mar 2013 08:12:08 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:12:04 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: KrisUniverse Subject: Re: Zlib version in FreeBSD - 3 releases behind? Message-ID: <20130305161158.GB9376@saturn> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:12:11 -0000 On 2013-03-04 07:28, KrisUniverse wrote: > The Zlib baked into FreeBSD is Zlib 1.2.4 even on 9.1R. > > However, Zlib has gone to 1.2.7 sometime ago after stepping through > 1.2.5, 1.2.6 and 1.2.7 with bug fixes. > > Is there any reason for not using Zlib 1.2.7? I don't have a 9.1-RELEASE system nearby, but I think zlib 1.2.7 _should_ already be there... Are you sure it's still an old version? The zlib on /head is 1.2.7, merged from the vendor branch on 2012-06-21. | % svn log --limit 1 svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head/lib/libz | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | r237410 | delphij | 2012-06-21 23:47:08 +0200 (Πεμ, 21 Ιον 2012) | 8 lines | | MFV: Update zlib to 1.2.7. | | (x86 assembler optimization disabled for now because it | requires the new .cfi_* directives that is not supported | by base system binutils). | | MFC after: 1 week This was later merged to 9.1-STABLE after about a week of burn-in on /head: | % svn log --limit 1 svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9/lib/libz | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | r237691 | delphij | 2012-06-28 09:08:48 +0200 (Πεμ, 28 Ιον 2012) | 2 | lines | | MFC r237410: zlib 1.2.7. Then the 9.1-RELEASE branch was copied from releng/9.1 on 2012-12-03, long after the MFC of zlib 1.2.7 to the stable/9 branch. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | r243808 | kensmith | 2012-12-03 06:03:33 +0100 (Δευ, 03 Δεκ 2012) | 4 lines | | Copy releng/9.1 to release/9.1.0 as part of 9.1-RELEASE. | | Approved by: re (implicit) I'm confused now. By tracking down these commits in our svn repository I would expect libz on 9.1-RELEASE to be version 1.2.7. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 16:27:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD75096E for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 16:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8847DD86 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 16:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1B933C40; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:26:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 793BC3983C; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:26:57 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "Zyumbilev\, Peter" Subject: Re: unable to compile lighttpd form source References: <51344801.8030206@aboutsupport.com> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:26:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: <51344801.8030206@aboutsupport.com> (Peter Zyumbilev's message of "Mon, 04 Mar 2013 09:06:41 +0200") Message-ID: <44boax3j8u.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:27:04 -0000 "Zyumbilev, Peter" writes: > Hi, > > I am trying to follow instructions on this page: > > http://h264.code-shop.com/trac/wiki/Mod-H264-Streaming-Lighttpd-Version2 > > and compile lighttpd. > > [root@pistolmp01 ~/lighttpd-1.4.28]# ./autogen.sh > ./autogen.sh: running `libtoolize --copy --force' > libtoolize: putting auxiliary files in `.'. > libtoolize: copying file `./ltmain.sh' > libtoolize: putting macros in AC_CONFIG_MACRO_DIR, `m4'. > libtoolize: copying file `m4/libtool.m4' > libtoolize: copying file `m4/ltoptions.m4' > libtoolize: copying file `m4/ltsugar.m4' > libtoolize: copying file `m4/ltversion.m4' > libtoolize: copying file `m4/lt~obsolete.m4' > ./autogen.sh: running `aclocal -I m4' > configure.ac:42: error: automatic de-ANSI-fication support has been removed > /usr/local/share/aclocal-1.12/protos.m4:12: AM_C_PROTOTYPES is expanded > from... > configure.ac:42: the top level > autom4te-2.69: /usr/local/bin/gm4 failed with exit status: 1 > aclocal-1.12: error: /usr/local/bin/autom4te-2.69 failed with exit status: 1 > > System version is: FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p3 > > > Please give me some hints as I am unable to install lighttpd with h264 > streaming support from both ports and source on FreeBSD. The port seems to work fine, so I'd recommend you try to figure out where that goes wrong for you, rather than figuring out version incompatibilities in autotools... 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[96.236.16.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u5sm5313847vef.0.2013.03.05.08.51.52 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Mar 2013 08:51:52 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Kraus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:51:49 -0500 Subject: cmake fails to build under 9.1 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlJBNI0KLwVe0BPJaenrXhASR1mLfrIay8KdYgxVZbB8lUlkGC7Hl1lbuMJXiaPiVKFAqOQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:51:55 -0000 In trying to build NagIOS, one of the dependencies is cmake and it is = failing to build. See below. And if I run make again it will fail on a = different file, see further down. Any ideas ? I am running 64 bit 9.1 = under VBox 4.2.6 and the parent host is Mac OS X 10.8. [ 61%] Building CXX object = Source/CMakeFiles/CMakeLib.dir/cmComputeLinkInformation.cxx.o {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:14628: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; = newline inserted {standard input}:16093: Error: bad register name `%r1' c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) Please submit a full bug report. See for instructions. *** [Source/CMakeFiles/CMakeLib.dir/cmBootstrapCommands.cxx.o] Error = code 1 1 error *** [Source/CMakeFiles/CMakeLib.dir/all] Error code 2 1 error *** [all] Error code 2 1 error *** [do-build] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/cmake. [ 68%] Building CXX object = Source/CMakeFiles/CMakeLib.dir/cmGlobalGenerator.cxx.o [ 68%] Building CXX object = Source/CMakeFiles/CMakeLib.dir/cmGlobalUnixMakefileGenerator3.cxx.o [ 68%] Building CXX object = Source/CMakeFiles/CMakeLib.dir/cmGraphVizWriter.cxx.o {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:119141: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; = newline inserted {standard input}:119618: Error: bad register name `%rb' c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) Please submit a full bug report. See for instructions. *** [Source/CMakeFiles/CMakeLib.dir/cmBootstrapCommands.cxx.o] Error = code 1 1 error *** [Source/CMakeFiles/CMakeLib.dir/all] Error code 2 1 error *** [all] Error code 2 1 error *** [do-build] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/cmake. Thanks. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 17:20:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6513A5C for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com (mail-wg0-f46.google.com [74.125.82.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFABE0 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:20:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id fg15so5965200wgb.13 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:20:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=llCEuLirOnB1WVG+K4vYrCw6arqUUosIc255zTx2Q8A=; b=tg1dJiULbReFzzf82pFQ+Q84AhUkhtlMaVst04GYvdWKORttpKHMOyo/zvNPcoQ+X7 MYYkoMUJuDsH+W554DSDG1wSqOwSJimvMGauT5GVihum7Nx1T+iLRebTbZqocY9Laaaa 4HhLlVJm9aK7Otz75Y8bD+jpNudbb+64s6T6Wd32Qp9V8EyZ74rfStuDYumcKUoF82xf Bgo+oxTtip7F45tvrlwSefYajfkr3ILYF8EfCgUmSIGhkg9cqPBHiopJtYBfFM7Ft6jL kp4swu82HkPkGWVQWyH/1MpYdF/SjvqOCYO1J80Dgy+cfmmYhTxDmXnBDnsR5GCfWtFh a7Jg== X-Received: by 10.204.151.72 with SMTP id b8mr9661312bkw.132.1362504003075; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:20:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.128] ([91.196.229.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ge12sm7394870bkc.19.2013.03.05.09.20.01 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:20:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5136293F.10808@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:19:59 +0200 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Kraus , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List" Subject: Re: cmake fails to build under 9.1 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:20:04 -0000 05.03.2013 18:51, Paul Kraus: > In trying to build NagIOS, one of the dependencies is cmake and it is failing to build. See below. And if I run make again it will fail on a different file, see further down. Any ideas ? I am running 64 bit 9.1 under VBox 4.2.6 and the parent host is Mac OS X 10.8. > > [ 61%] Building CXX object Source/CMakeFiles/CMakeLib.dir/cmComputeLinkInformation.cxx.o > {standard input}: Assembler messages: > {standard input}:14628: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted > {standard input}:16093: Error: bad register name `%r1' > c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus) > Please submit a full bug report. > See for instructions. > *** [Source/CMakeFiles/CMakeLib.dir/cmBootstrapCommands.cxx.o] Error code 1 > 1 error > *** [Source/CMakeFiles/CMakeLib.dir/all] Error code 2 > 1 error > *** [all] Error code 2 > 1 error > *** [do-build] Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/cmake. Any messages on the system console? -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 17:48:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA3C491 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:48:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@d2ux.org) Received: from mail.s1.d2ux.org (static.209.96.9.5.clients.your-server.de [5.9.96.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B51B233 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.s1.d2ux.org (mail [10.0.0.3]) by mail.s1.d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DBB84F2D6C for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:42:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.s1.d2ux.org ([10.0.0.3]) by mail.s1.d2ux.org (mail.s1.d2ux.org [10.0.0.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C5AeR1hqIBkj for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:42:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.s1.d2ux.org (unknown [10.0.0.4]) by mail.s1.d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7222984F257D for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:42:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from p5DDABF93.dip.t-dialin.net (p5DDABF93.dip.t-dialin.net [93.218.191.147]) by d2ux.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:42:02 +0100 Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:42:02 +0100 Message-ID: <20130305184202.Horde.eDUXhBWXINRGxbZx4ZcRCQ2@d2ux.org> From: Matthias Petermann To: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Jailed process listening to broadcast address of host system - possible? User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.0.4) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:48:01 -0000 Hello, is there any way to listen to a networks broadcast adress from within a Jail? Given ist the following setup: * The host (IP 192.168.2.127) * The jail (same IP as host, 192.168.2.127) When I do: $ nc -l 192.168.2.255 9999 I got the following results: root@host # nc -l 192.168.2.255 9999 root@jail # nc -l 192.168.2.255 9999 nc: Can't assign requested address The latter is the problem. I already sat security.jail.allow_raw_sockets=1 and now not sure if I am trying to do something which is not allowed by design? Thanks in advance, Matthias # Additional Information: ## ifconfig (host): root@host # ifconfig -a em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=9b ether 08:00:27:b3:64:f2 inet 192.168.2.127 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=600003 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffffff inet 10.0.0.2 netmask 0xffffffff inet 10.0.0.3 netmask 0xffffffff inet 10.0.0.4 netmask 0xffffffff inet 10.0.0.5 netmask 0xffffffff nd6 options=21 pflog0: flags=141 metric 0 mtu 33152 nd6 options=21 ## ifconfig (jail): root@jail # ifconfig -a em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=9b ether 08:00:27:b3:64:f2 inet 192.168.2.127 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=600003 pflog0: flags=141 metric 0 mtu 33152 -- Matthias Petermann From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 18:44:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E9F295 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A790171B for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:44:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=adbjbGUt c=1 sm=0 a=IvncpQWizqU0KxmTkcmfsA==:17 a=05_IqN7r2KIA:10 a=XYJHFtupD_QA:10 a=UrS-UqH4pV4A:10 a=PmjUu4vlE_IA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=bqq2Vc5EAAAA:8 a=9Yd2fpeulKwA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=zDYdU3WZ8MiOKdjsAW0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=bD0ntpZo4aIA:10 a=gWmOFBW1Y4AA:10 a=IvncpQWizqU0KxmTkcmfsA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 67.52.213.147 Received: from [67.52.213.147] ([67.52.213.147:63469] helo=haran.polands.org) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id ED/07-27807-02D36315; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:44:49 +0000 Received: from ararat.polands.org (ararat.polands.org [172.16.1.20]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r25Iim8R095182 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:44:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from ararat.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ararat.polands.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r25IimaV081694 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:44:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@ararat.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by ararat.polands.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id r25IimVQ081693 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:44:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:44:48 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Booting from an aribrary disk in ZFS RAIDZ on 8.x Message-ID: <20130305184446.GA81297@polands.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:44:50 -0000 Hello, I'm running ZFS filesystem ver 3, storage pool ver 14, on 8-STABLE amd64. The kernel build is rather dated from around Feb 2010. I have 6 disks in a RAIDZ configuration. All disks were sliced the same with gpart (da(n)p1,p2,p3) with bootcode written to index 1, swap on index 2 and freebsd-zfs on index 3. Given this configuration, I should be able to boot from any of the 6 disks in the RAIDZ. If this is a true statement, how do I make that happen from the loader prompt? At the loader prompt when I type show, I get the following relevant variables: currdev="zfs0" loaddev="disk1a:" vfs.root.mountfrom="zfs:rpool" A peek at man loader(1) shows me two interesting variables: root_disk_unit rootdev If disk0 is the legacy floppy device, presumably disk1a: maps to da0. What variable do I set to signify boot from what I know as: da0p1 == gpt/boot0 da0p2 == gpt/swap0 da0p3 == gpt/disk0 ... snip ... da5p1 == gpt/boot5 da5p2 == gpt/swap5 da5p3 == gpt/disk5 Thanks very much in advance. BTW, is it bad form to cross-post to forums.freebsd.org? -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 19:30:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC595BEF for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 19:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@d2ux.org) Received: from mail.s1.d2ux.org (static.209.96.9.5.clients.your-server.de [5.9.96.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EAEB8EC for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 19:30:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.s1.d2ux.org (mail [10.0.0.3]) by mail.s1.d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76EE84F2CD9 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:30:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.s1.d2ux.org ([10.0.0.3]) by mail.s1.d2ux.org (mail.s1.d2ux.org [10.0.0.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VrZW2MaHUaHQ for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:30:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.s1.d2ux.org (unknown [10.0.0.4]) by mail.s1.d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206EA84F2580 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:30:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from p5DDABF93.dip.t-dialin.net (p5DDABF93.dip.t-dialin.net [93.218.191.147]) by d2ux.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:30:22 +0100 Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:30:22 +0100 Message-ID: <20130305203022.Horde.dksye196oEwlUQ41iOTg2Q9@d2ux.org> From: Matthias Petermann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: backups using rsync References: <6126.1362396930@server1.tristatelogic.com> <20130305160021.GA9376@saturn> In-Reply-To: <20130305160021.GA9376@saturn> User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.0.4) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:30:25 -0000 Hello, Zitat von Giorgos Keramidas : > If this is a UFS2 filesystem, it may be a good idea to snapshot the > filesystem, and then rsync-backup the snapshot instead. Last time I tried UFS2 snapshots I found out two serious limitations. The first is it doesn't work when UFS Journaling is used. The second is that taking a snapshop on a large filesystem can cause parts of the system to freeze for many minutes up to hours when accessing files part of the snapshot, depending on the size of the filesystem. That's why I could not use it on my server with > 1TB UFS2. Did this improve in the last year? (I guess my experience is from the time around 9.0 release). Kind regards, Matthias -- Matthias Petermann From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 21:42:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E5DDD4 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 21:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnagyjr1978@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-f42.google.com (mail-oa0-f42.google.com [209.85.219.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56DAEB2 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 21:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id i18so11726424oag.1 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:42:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IMD0c9HIDp/v8x7hhiDGcpe8AUdi37068F2qM2bY5Lk=; b=tt0NiGSv3FgDsnxpsZfXMx3FT7OqUZwKZjqPOE2hosMByG3rV/Se8D6t1T2JljZxPX 0IxsHOLHDS6kc4yuThv92uZ+56RK9eqilUyiC0EBFYpyMTgvOAxVVhOCybkpilT2vCEA kYnShrgoOQjvlNswCuuwC/W8YbpTaWVW9qaYsOrf70VUDcTx6zSbOGF+V9rJy42r4D0o l5ltfK3lWb6vBiaH/fe4hINIfcXdFBlRD26V+O0Wy01l7/HaW99fodUUWpMjuEgoHs6K AVJLGZtmvB6gyPnjczQQtORTdO6RdYO1+SqfLS1WPL4YcDtu+nUU52Jq61jl5XWzbX90 WNNw== X-Received: by 10.60.26.231 with SMTP id o7mr20553948oeg.107.1362519742805; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:42:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.66] ([69.8.175.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v8sm35971977oea.4.2013.03.05.13.42.19 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:42:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <513666B7.4080708@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:42:15 -0600 From: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: Problems Printing References: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135C776.9000603@gmail.com> <20130305102951.GA1325@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135DC95.4000800@gmail.com> <20130305121957.GA1581@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135E740.1080808@gmail.com> <20130305124946.GA1653@tiny.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20130305124946.GA1653@tiny.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk, "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 21:42:30 -0000 On 03/05/13 06:49, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 06:38:24AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr escribió: > >>>> # date | lpr -Pfoo >>>> lpr: The printer or class does not exist. >>> >>> what is the name of your printer in CUPS? You named it "foo"? >>> Please try it to configure as well as a Generic Postscript printer; >>> >>> matthias >>> >> >> Sorry, I haven't had sleep for 24 hours. It's named PIXMA. > > then the test is > > $ date | lpr -PPIXMA > > matthias > I figured that out, sent the test, it queud the job and stuck there. When I get home I'm going to clear the cups logs and start over again. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 5 22:44:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C98E882 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 22:44:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nm.knife@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x230.google.com (mail-we0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E202195 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 22:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f176.google.com with SMTP id s43so7212513wey.35 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:44:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LWi2/fmEV92cY5kSy5D230lMBjL/QeVEUriv789yg9g=; b=qR7AoO8UAylw5NzdVADg2Zwk/Oo4HqXuzh1FVnbkT8UyIL8Nbv7n17iKQGWu2kqj4o D/oNTlUnKu3UC9R8UqCoveLkfRe89xLBZ5qwgIA1vdbFWp2kBBxoszi6gReI95gc4zmo 7gqtHJ8LSX8H4sFTtxAuzQHar++HTuI04UJC50pxDrtBKg+JS6JSpS/tIDeoMVq8dREt MRJ07ZtkORuvLc8ZGgg8FLN1z6FyCijLr3D3G9NBcVTjeQiXVEy8gobj4vDvUasL3Q8J I3ZbFNZc2YwJCMzWlX5TMyCE70aJ9GFUGjZL5Tlon5d/PbgI2BSEXlyFoCLkN9yuGLbU jeRQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.181.11.164 with SMTP id ej4mr22283076wid.29.1362523466512; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:44:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.57.241 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:44:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:44:26 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: How to connect to VPN From: =?windows-1251?B?y/7h7uzo8CDD8Ojj7vDu4g==?= To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 22:44:27 -0000 I have been trying to find a way to connect to a PPTP or L2TP VPN for over a year now. There is no GUI client that I know of and any text configuration I try with pptpclient fails. How can I connect to a VPN, the fast way as in Windows, OS X and GNU/Linux. I have the following information (no internal IP's or ranges or NAT): Gateway - I have the URL to connect to, I suppose I can map it to IP Username Password MSCHAP MSCHAPv2 Use point-to-point encryption (MPPE) Allow BSD data compression Allow deflate data compression Use TCP header compression How can I connect to the VPN with just this information above? Everything I find requires internal IP's, ranges, NAT and other things making a 5 second gui configuration take months. The VPN server supports PPTP and L2TP as mentioned. Any advice on how I can connect will be helpful. -- Lyubomir Grigorov (bgalakazam) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 01:03:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F724E2 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 01:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E09844 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 01:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([173.88.202.176]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:03:37 -0800 Message-ID: <513695E7.8090201@a1poweruser.com> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:03:35 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Petermann Subject: Re: Jailed process listening to broadcast address of host system - possible? References: <20130305184202.Horde.eDUXhBWXINRGxbZx4ZcRCQ2@d2ux.org> In-Reply-To: <20130305184202.Horde.eDUXhBWXINRGxbZx4ZcRCQ2@d2ux.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2013 01:03:37.0907 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F426030:01CE1A06] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 01:03:37 -0000 Matthias Petermann wrote: > > Hello, > > is there any way to listen to a networks broadcast adress from within a > Jail? > > Given ist the following setup: > > * The host (IP 192.168.2.127) > * The jail (same IP as host, 192.168.2.127) > > When I do: > > $ nc -l 192.168.2.255 9999 > > I got the following results: > > root@host # nc -l 192.168.2.255 9999 > > > root@jail # nc -l 192.168.2.255 9999 > nc: Can't assign requested address > > The latter is the problem. I already sat security.jail.allow_raw_sockets=1 > and now not sure if I am trying to do something which is not allowed by > design? > > Thanks in advance, > Matthias > > > > # Additional Information: > > ## ifconfig (host): > > root@host # ifconfig -a > em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=9b > ether 08:00:27:b3:64:f2 > inet 192.168.2.127 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 > nd6 options=29 > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) > status: active > lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 > options=600003 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffffff > inet 10.0.0.2 netmask 0xffffffff > inet 10.0.0.3 netmask 0xffffffff > inet 10.0.0.4 netmask 0xffffffff > inet 10.0.0.5 netmask 0xffffffff > nd6 options=21 > pflog0: flags=141 metric 0 mtu 33152 > nd6 options=21 > > ## ifconfig (jail): > > root@jail # ifconfig -a > em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=9b > ether 08:00:27:b3:64:f2 > inet 192.168.2.127 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) > status: active > lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 > options=600003 > pflog0: flags=141 metric 0 mtu 33152 > Since your talking about a jail process, you really need to provide details on how you configured the jail and if your using the interface parameter? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 02:37:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9958D3BB for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 02:37:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcartwri@asu.edu) Received: from mail-wg0-f54.google.com (mail-wg0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3D0B22 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 02:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id fm10so6985517wgb.9 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:36:57 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Dv9+YkIc09ptLTG6rCHw9Qtk5J3dyP6Zj2hoPFEVXlw=; b=ifiuasDDIfHk/PE4oV+wn9e4pRPasNmAUjoKjJnqVnAfoKTf6EEpJ7DFwOnsE6V3Pd MLxtGjZoCUGdagFxdYRdHHJANbWzGl1sjtZSq+MExxLT+FcOvEO/uMNW6Y3YFrsk0goR bzTyAG+H+Zp12qROc+Wox7oiDzbwoSR4L5fYDToiO/MJRdv4UpoY6m/VIBF/hhtSKaxO IN03Z+T66hfkBgiz5K/Lp3g2yTWS85nYFsbnp8kw2bX2ixUlAllR9bVNpNSTJ925rXVo y6mnodn/B0KD4NnuY4JfzIrDw/fjRtqcuXh8KQdd/qkLqeBeCGd9FR5kU/+3I9XHsdu7 5b3g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.74.131 with SMTP id t3mr22862774wiv.23.1362537417290; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:36:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.198.2 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:36:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 19:36:57 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Tuning ZFS ARC for 512GB Memory From: "Reed A. Cartwright" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl5oJT5rU1h9ccCxhlOhlrZUAuFeNxGMGyUTqtyph8LBANZGoPwzcs1wYXXj5M6/hcEbOIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 02:37:04 -0000 I have a 512GB memory system that has a 480GB (or so) L2ARC, and a raidz2 storage pool. No dedup or compression is enabled. Although, I will enable compression in the future. By default vfs.zfs.arc_max is about 300GB and the L2ARC is hardly touched. I've seen a couple hints recently on the mailing lists that having too big of an ARC can be a performance hit because it takes a long time to inspect it when something needs to integrate over the entries. I've also had issues with running 9.1 on this machine due to zfs deadlocks or stalls and am currently "stuck" using 9.0 with no issue. So, I was wondering if shrinking the ARC would potentially help and what should I shrink it to? I am thinking about setting vfs.zfs.arc_max to 64GB. Does anyone have an opinion? -- Reed A. Cartwright, PhD Assistant Professor of Genomics, Evolution, and Bioinformatics School of Life Sciences Center for Evolutionary Medicine and Informatics The Biodesign Institute Arizona State University From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 02:56:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D1B5E1 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 02:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:6:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07463BE0 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 02:56:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp247-71.static.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([203.122.247.71]) by ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2013 13:26:09 +1030 Message-ID: <5136B047.3000700@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:26:07 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Poland Subject: Re: Booting from an aribrary disk in ZFS RAIDZ on 8.x References: <20130305184446.GA81297@polands.org> In-Reply-To: <20130305184446.GA81297@polands.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 02:56:15 -0000 On 06/03/2013 05:14, Doug Poland wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running ZFS filesystem ver 3, storage pool ver 14, on 8-STABLE > amd64. The kernel build is rather dated from around Feb 2010. You probably want to update that sometime. > I have 6 disks in a RAIDZ configuration. All disks were sliced > the same with gpart (da(n)p1,p2,p3) with bootcode written to index 1, > swap on index 2 and freebsd-zfs on index 3. > > Given this configuration, I should be able to boot from any of the 6 > disks in the RAIDZ. If this is a true statement, how do I make that > happen from the loader prompt? You don't boot from an individual disk you boot from a zpool - all disks are linked together making one zpool "disk". > At the loader prompt when I type show, I get the following relevant > variables: > > currdev="zfs0" > loaddev="disk1a:" > vfs.root.mountfrom="zfs:rpool" zfs:rpool is the "disk" you boot from. I'm guessing that you ask as your machine isn't booting. You probably need to boot from a cd and do adjustments. You have zfs_load=yes in /boot/loader.conf ? You have vfs.root.mountfrom="zfs:rpool" in /boot/loader.conf ? You have zfs_enable=yes in /etc/rc.conf ? You have zpool set bootfs=rpool rpool or similar? I think it has been resolved recently but you used to have to copy the zpool.cache into /boot Did you set the mountpoint when installing and not change it back? I had issues with setting up with a mountpoint / and changing it to legacy. Setting the mountpoint as you want before setup then use altroot to mount it for install is the way to go. If you search wiki.freebsd.org for zfs you can find several examples that may provide hints to what you missed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 05:47:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBDBC90 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 05:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gezeala@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x231.google.com (mail-la0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B6322B for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 05:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f49.google.com with SMTP id fs13so6832389lab.8 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 21:47:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZwNQBy6Q8QjcLjNvKAZ5u25YxXPdITvJSlgvRATSG6g=; b=KMsGZL/P3+2u9yv1GosNxLsjqnmLj6dvtZsaYf+U99g/vxyOfkmEfwGksgqHGb2inP S7y9fbfe8RxZcN584BAVJ9VYvRKfRDVU6oBT7CDu1edcHAJtH8driZPQBH7OGHCgbDtr oUcqcfxumunIrEnAPdgNFEimXP9loZeVxtQ8WBREVRCdgdCoM7WKslcU1V5XzjHYXXMc N0OetkcLfvn5TRj+qde1Extp7AMexZdJB7e/aYvz8nRnIi3IKua5Hxp5KXj1ZphEgoXp Q6s3oKXAsjWQ9Ze/GqfcZ1bAN58eioi6MjC2N3bdbRkbb1G6qsCoGWiCsTWy4J+6SqNb bm9w== X-Received: by 10.112.83.67 with SMTP id o3mr6991556lby.7.1362548869529; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 21:47:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.23.106 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 21:47:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gezeala_M=2E_Bacu=F1o_II?= Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 21:47:09 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Tuning ZFS ARC for 512GB Memory To: "Reed A. Cartwright" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 05:47:51 -0000 Try to read through the email thread I have started and specifically posts (replies) by alc: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-performance/2012-August/thread.html#4640 I have followed his suggestions, and with the arc_max setting I used we still have on average free RAM ~137GB. HTH. On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Reed A. Cartwright wrote: > I have a 512GB memory system that has a 480GB (or so) L2ARC, and a > raidz2 storage pool. No dedup or compression is enabled. Although, I > will enable compression in the future. > > By default vfs.zfs.arc_max is about 300GB and the L2ARC is hardly touched. > > I've seen a couple hints recently on the mailing lists that having too > big of an ARC can be a performance hit because it takes a long time to > inspect it when something needs to integrate over the entries. > > I've also had issues with running 9.1 on this machine due to zfs > deadlocks or stalls and am currently "stuck" using 9.0 with no issue. > > So, I was wondering if shrinking the ARC would potentially help and > what should I shrink it to? > > I am thinking about setting vfs.zfs.arc_max to 64GB. > > Does anyone have an opinion? > > > -- > Reed A. Cartwright, PhD > Assistant Professor of Genomics, Evolution, and Bioinformatics > School of Life Sciences > Center for Evolutionary Medicine and Informatics > The Biodesign Institute > Arizona State University > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 05:58:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6728F for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 05:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4078828A for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 05:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [88.217.68.98] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UD7MW-0006Be-23; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 06:58:00 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r265l2qm002307; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 06:47:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id r265l1XD002306; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 06:47:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 06:47:01 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" Subject: Re: Problems Printing Message-ID: <20130306054701.GA2295@tinyCurrent> References: <5135A88B.1000100@gmail.com> <20130305095729.GA1123@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135C776.9000603@gmail.com> <20130305102951.GA1325@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135DC95.4000800@gmail.com> <20130305121957.GA1581@tiny.Sisis.de> <5135E740.1080808@gmail.com> <20130305124946.GA1653@tiny.Sisis.de> <513666B7.4080708@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <513666B7.4080708@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 88.217.68.98 Cc: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk, "Questions @ FreeBSD" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 05:58:08 -0000 El día Tuesday, March 05, 2013 a las 03:42:15PM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr escribió: > > then the test is > > > > $ date | lpr -PPIXMA > > > > matthias > > > > I figured that out, sent the test, it queud the job and stuck there. > When I get home I'm going to clear the cups logs and start over again. Does the CUPS' test page works from the web interface? If not, try to configure the printer as Generic Postscript first. matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 08:06:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3321A841; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 08:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA928FA; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 08:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r2686msE080763; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 08:06:48 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <5136F918.70105@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 08:06:48 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: Zlib version in FreeBSD - 3 releases behind? References: <20130305161158.GB9376@saturn> In-Reply-To: <20130305161158.GB9376@saturn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, KrisUniverse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 08:06:58 -0000 On 03/05/13 16:12, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2013-03-04 07:28, KrisUniverse wrote: >> The Zlib baked into FreeBSD is Zlib 1.2.4 even on 9.1R. >> >> However, Zlib has gone to 1.2.7 sometime ago after stepping through >> 1.2.5, 1.2.6 and 1.2.7 with bug fixes. >> >> Is there any reason for not using Zlib 1.2.7? > > I don't have a 9.1-RELEASE system nearby, but I think zlib 1.2.7 _should_ > already be there... Are you sure it's still an old version? On my machine: # uname -r 9.1-RELEASE [It's actually -p1 but I've not bothered replacing the kernel as the problems were in user space.] # grep 'define ZLIB_VERSION' /usr/src/lib/libz/zlib.h #define ZLIB_VERSION "1.2.7" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 08:45:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8E81B0 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 08:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@d2ux.org) Received: from mail.s1.d2ux.org (static.209.96.9.5.clients.your-server.de [5.9.96.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4172A61 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 08:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.s1.d2ux.org (mail [10.0.0.3]) by mail.s1.d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AC184F2D6B; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 09:45:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.s1.d2ux.org ([10.0.0.3]) by mail.s1.d2ux.org (mail.s1.d2ux.org [10.0.0.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uWHKdxSgOXit; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 09:45:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from www.s1.d2ux.org (unknown [10.0.0.4]) by mail.s1.d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D129384F25CD; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 09:45:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from 188.92.33.52 ([188.92.33.52]) by d2ux.org (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:45:46 +0100 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:45:46 +0100 Message-ID: <20130306094546.Horde.R9zgW7yQNb5tlZ2idRBaJQ1@d2ux.org> From: Matthias Petermann To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: Jailed process listening to broadcast address of host system - possible? References: <20130305184202.Horde.eDUXhBWXINRGxbZx4ZcRCQ2@d2ux.org> <513695E7.8090201@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <513695E7.8090201@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.0.4) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 08:45:51 -0000 Hello, thanks for your response. Zitat von Fbsd8 : > Since your talking about a jail process, you really need to provide > details on how you configured the jail and if your using the > interface parameter? The jail is configured using the interface parameter, sat to the same IP as the Host. More details I can provide tonight. Kind regards, Matthias -- Matthias Petermann From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 08:46:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C09249 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 08:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talayeh.asadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x236.google.com (mail-ie0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F907A71 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 08:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k14so9128697iea.13 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 00:46:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=gydAknQO5v2viuqd0dNWF46jOWFEQGndCFudw9JUYOY=; b=D+ZhOjUZlUSBWpp7YN/uezs03mnLe8RePJo7Pe8RIoAxHHvXxD0MA2D1RpmqAZRDLy MdaE/ww3Dwoan3qOCK6jTbzF29Lta/DEMX99ncFXUJbnBLp0Zwb7amfnx6Ix1iydou9l HJz2FF8K+mbSz7Ws9Q60hXDKCrK3r7ZWbPxrMAO2Opa9BhAn2bC7XRp840Z6z7HTLO9R FSSacsADcW2uRg8TgofbbMHfZ+2vg9VzQsktflxUGtaE6B8s5l7QKUM+cdfspke3qV6w fwCUQcYQTHPV/t/ZJJGhaGUVznRVKtKBl7lIhCf3WkazUOBORvOST39adIo9kyCcEzuj LR7Q== X-Received: by 10.50.11.229 with SMTP id t5mr9854997igb.65.1362559585876; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 00:46:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.125.130 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 00:46:05 -0800 (PST) From: Talayeh Asadi Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 12:16:05 +0330 Message-ID: Subject: difference between cu and putty for serial connections To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 08:46:26 -0000 hi all, i'm trying to activate my custom boot0 on a headless server. i got my required results while connecting by cu, but not when i use putty to connect.. here's the scenario: one of my goals in this custom boot0 is to deactivate all keys but F2 for some reasons.. i applied required changes to the boot0.S code and applied DONLY_F_KEYS in the Makefile and changed the flags BOOT_BOOT0_FLAGS to required values and got required output using cu. but when i connect to the mentioned server using putty, my F keys don't work and i have to remove DONLY_F_KEYS in Makefile so '2' Key become available (SIO mode activated??) i don't know so much things about this sio mode here.. would someone please explain their difference to me? i have no idea.. is it related to the keymap differences? any suggestions are really appritiated.. Thank you all :) Best Regards, t.a.k From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 08:54:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A713C9 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 08:54:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talayeh.asadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x231.google.com (mail-ie0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3029EAE6 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 08:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id 16so9101085iea.22 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 00:54:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:reply-to:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=HCoSz/3SjFv8fz6cgIzRWg+F3h0qIbgxkLNL237LKKA=; b=VhnXnuDZNrRgVCeZUrYSG702zS/Aai5zwtLiVhlobuYngpUMzn6IlHpmWLn5EWWI7L ZEtAGN7238WqnyB+Tj+xLLa5Sw6RmzZaMGFQvBTtEhFvS5ANdmY224Ev1cHEiWE2NQYr C1kQ4VRbaduuK16xgP/xkTKKvqxdZB7756IRRl5EdJtm59RKchHkbXoqM4CFbyZijq2+ 1+UFtEXnZFcmn4u6t4Ql4vDBojCztwLaJyXbC9Gm13cqcBLaM6YYtoJs74iCYQ9jEGmQ UxMKxIO4UO95ThAPmrXSe9vQc2y5YTaA3eaaytyxWGc6+30/xXNmwy02kkvbg6SuK7XR DZ7w== X-Received: by 10.50.170.102 with SMTP id al6mr9522307igc.81.1362560080906; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 00:54:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: talayeh.asadi@gmail.com Received: by 10.43.125.130 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 00:54:20 -0800 (PST) From: takCoder Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 12:24:20 +0330 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6q0-dWi-ciEj8HAJNjKDz68AI0Y Message-ID: Subject: difference between cu and putty for serial connections To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: tak.official@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 08:54:41 -0000 hi all, i'm trying to activate my custom boot0 on a headless server. i got my required results while connecting by cu, but not when i use putty to connect.. here's the scenario: one of my goals in this custom boot0 is to deactivate all keys but F2 for some reasons.. i applied required changes to the boot0.S code and applied DONLY_F_KEYS in the Makefile and changed the flags BOOT_BOOT0_FLAGS to required values and got required output using cu. but when i connect to the mentioned server using putty, my F keys don't work and i have to remove DONLY_F_KEYS in Makefile so '2' Key become available (SIO mode activated??) i don't know so much things about this sio mode here.. would someone please explain their difference to me? i have no idea.. is it related to the keymap differences? any suggestions are really appritiated.. Thank you all :) Best Regards, t.a.k From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 10:05:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E14DB7; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 10:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52EFE9D; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 10:05:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.80.1) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1UDBE0-002tvV-WB>; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 11:05:29 +0100 Received: from e178016149.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.16.149] helo=munin.geoinf.fu-berlin.de) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.80.1) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1UDBE0-0035Jh-SV>; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 11:05:28 +0100 Message-ID: <51371525.4070408@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 11:06:29 +0100 From: "Hartmann, O." Organization: FU Berlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130216 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Current , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CURRENT: "broken pipe" / SIGNAL 13 / no X11 / OpenLDAP/nscd weirdness Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.16.149 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:05:36 -0000 The most recent CURRENT (FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r247865: Wed Mar 6 08:52:15 CET 2013/amd64, built with CLANG and CXXFLAGS+= -stdlib=libc++ CXXFLAGS+= -std=c++11 set in /etc/src.conf, for the record) does have some serious issues and I'm wondering why others do not. The problems I face affect ALL most recent FreeBSD CURRENT boxes. It doesn't matter whether I use my customized kernel config or GENERIC. The symptoms are weird. Using system commands like top(1) give me a "broken pipe" on the console. Repeating the command gives me then after a while top screen as expected. Services, like OpenLDAP (which I use throughout all systems with nscd and /etc/nsswitch.conf configured), nagios, hald, dbusd or starting X11, doesn't work properly: starting or not starting seems to be a statistical game. Since some kernel modifications needs recompiling ports which provides kernel modules, like emulators/virtual-box-ose-kmod x11/nvidia-driver fail with [...] *** [do-extract] Signal 13 This happens to all ports I try to compile/recompile, but sometimes, again the gamble, a simple make in the port's directory works and I can recompile. Also strange and possibly a sort of indication for the problem is the behaviour of sudo(1): hartmann@gate: [~] sudo su - Password: hartmann@gate: [~] sudo(1) does not switch to the superuser as it is expected, sometimes I receive a "broken pipe" error, sometimes it works as expected. In single user mode, I can cmpile ports without problems and I do not see this "broken pipe" issue. To be able to compile and install a port, I need to perform*** [do-extract] Signal 13 service ldconfig start which works, so all "suspicious" libraries should be loaded (as a naiv guess, I thought a miscompiled shared lib could casue the problem). Well, in general for the ports problem, the SINGLEUSER mode doesn't show the problem. The X11 system isn't starting up anymore. The problem why this doesn't work seems to "change": with sources/kernel prior or equal to r247839, dbusd couldn't start (obviously broken pipe ...). Sporadically non-working services, like slapd (OpenLDAP) seem to start after repeatedly issue "service slapd restart", but I can not reproduce by a number the failings. Sometimes the services start at boot time on a regular basis, sometimes not. For further informations of the settings: I use TEMPFS for /var/run and /tmp. This is common to all systems (but it doesn't affect single user mode, somehow). Things which do not work or solve the problem: a) use a GENERIC kernel b) avoid either in GENERIC or CUSTOM kernel CXXFLAGS+= in /etc/src.conf c) disable nscd d) recompile ports which cause trouble or tend to be highly inresponsive: openldap24-sasl-client/server, pam_ldap, nss_ldap, sudo, dbus and hal, xdm, xorg-server, virtualbox-ose-kmod I tried to recompile for now several times the whole sources with all standard setting (no custom /etc/src.conf or make.conf, also GENERIC kernel). No salvation. I also switched off SMP via setting #kern.smp.disabled=1 since this caused earlier some trouble - but this is more a desperate move to narrow down the problem a bit. I hope someone can reproduce this problem since I think I'm not the only one who is using CURRENT in a server-like multiuser/workstation environment (not only Vbox images, jails). Regards, oh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 10:12:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8620813A for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 10:12:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from talayeh.asadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com (mail-qa0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEC6EE4 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 10:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id bv4so2427325qab.17 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 02:11:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=anHIPSaDiHxMOo4W/VXPAGa//cgwg/+bgJq7DpK7IfQ=; b=dK77ZcpGxJOUBp7Haq2Nnsx+zYEwdWq3gq0KOLI1IT2PwyU4UXbKAp43NGaCxex1VD 1k0EZyPLXwyUWlqDtaaZDGJx09ZXI3vYjMaoy/6y+MnAFBt3SL0qhsQUTSvw52iWaEe2 WmkMZvt3rb2nhLxvSCDrKMYD/GPhnnyDOoDaCYW3SSYtzohN4gYqnFpL3/lap02J0v9z PDHPT+8bAWSZRbhOb6EjHe4uuWKw/tbKvKvzt8GljlBVqzDEoQ203RrGhWdHzN/vcO2L /phtph+lDOkqXhsAoT14FQ6ESo4+n3aptsu6Cwk1b0dWwAlOYUOzvOndzsSRl4Qlzh6L KGxA== X-Received: by 10.224.31.73 with SMTP id x9mr44197179qac.11.1362564714077; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 02:11:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: talayeh.asadi@gmail.com Received: by 10.49.59.12 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 02:11:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: takCoder Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:41:33 +0430 X-Google-Sender-Auth: nWFPl3qCr4Awg-ugy2dtj9YlUaU Message-ID: Subject: Re: difference between cu and putty for serial connections To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: tak.official@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:12:00 -0000 nice to mention, at least for me, that changing putty keyboard settings from ESC[n~ to VT100+ solved my problem temporarily.. :) i'll work on solving my problem permanently, may be via working on keymap differences.. Thank you all :) Best Regards, t.a.k On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, takCoder wrote: > hi all, > > i'm trying to activate my custom boot0 on a headless server. i got my > required results while connecting by cu, but not when i use putty to > connect.. > > here's the scenario: > one of my goals in this custom boot0 is to deactivate all keys but F2 for > some reasons.. > i applied required changes to the boot0.S code and applied DONLY_F_KEYS in > the Makefile and changed the flags BOOT_BOOT0_FLAGS to required values and > got required output using cu. > > but when i connect to the mentioned server using putty, my F keys don't > work and i have to remove DONLY_F_KEYS in Makefile so '2' Key become > available (SIO mode activated??) > > i don't know so much things about this sio mode here.. would someone > please explain their difference to me? i have no idea.. is it related to > the keymap differences? > > any suggestions are really appritiated.. Thank you all :) > > Best Regards, > t.a.k > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 10:37:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7211A67A for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 10:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentgclarklist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA9CFDB for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 10:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f44.google.com with SMTP id l10so5602473eei.3 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 02:37:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4CrFXZAcUfT+7twI2X9Zm2kkYGLUIQChB3goTAgIimg=; b=xXtoyF41xzRW0GuS7Ilgm4buOSODpkPLyNX0Bd9QNNPI5egHGyW/MuK3xBV4GxYVQS ZHSKUQRYQa7wpi2uTx9JTWsav0EksFr8ReuJkYY5VLdPllJSic7maMndV+8zMjWjXXqG GcVs7ba/NovAnjavkp6xyc450X7KOuwZ7co9Y577qhw9mnFuyzsVTctSLh+VubUE2xev ogY4jgbnvl24qLr/3SV39rGrvn7bDe5dTVrewatehJxx/Ss1866aryKl9YVWOkhoo9kG kCrhTvs2sJMzc9M4rY6CwRe/yHoGobXiRs1p9+oNdWuyiRWpMUOmwMExrByNo+ELtHiU 35Eg== X-Received: by 10.14.173.196 with SMTP id v44mr80240486eel.29.1362566229789; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 02:37:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.129] (office.cpt1.host-h.net. [196.7.147.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u44sm41684047eel.7.2013.03.06.02.37.07 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Mar 2013 02:37:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51371C8A.8050205@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:38:02 +0200 From: Brent Clark User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: OpenVPN vm cant connect to other VM's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:37:11 -0000 Hi guys Im struggling with a freebsd vm, that I have that I use for a VPN connection too, from my workstation to my home LAN. And I was wondering if someone could peer review me and my problem. OpenVPN is working beautifully. I.e. I can connect to some services (apache etc) that I run directly on my FreeBSD / openvpn vm. What im now trying to achieve is that I can connect to other VMs / machines on my home LAN. Im using tun for my VPN, and my pf.conf looks like so (please see the nat on ...) [root@freebsd /usr/home/bclark]# cat /etc/pf.conf ext_if="re0" vpn_if="tun0" int_net="10.0.0.0/24" vpn_net="192.168.200.0/24" set skip on lo0 set optimization normal #set block-policy drop set limit { states 20000, frags 10000, src-nodes 20000 } # Normalization: reassemble fragments and resolve or reduce traffic ambiguities. scrub in all # Translation: specify how addresses are to be mapped or redirected. # NAT rules # enabling NAT currently breaks policy based routing #nat on $ext_if from { $int_net, $vpn_net } to any -> ($ext_if) #nat on tun0 from { 192.168.200.0/24 } to any -> (re0) nat on re0 from { 192.168.200.0/24 } to any -> (re0) table persist block in quick on re0 proto tcp from to any port ssh label "ssh brute" What am I missing? If anyone could assist, it would be appreciated. Kind Regards Brent Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 14:34:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A6CF40 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: from mail-qe0-f46.google.com (mail-qe0-f46.google.com [209.85.128.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03456E42 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qe0-f46.google.com with SMTP id a11so5427087qen.33 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 06:34:07 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=Xm8KYf5dzz+be/t6D1M0h3SBC2LPU+UrBlk2T0edINI=; b=Yk62ha89RoST3e551YWrsCXpGP+c12p1iuP5Abz3Kd3munx8F9YQ1tjYGAt1e5g8QF cUrWBGBD8BfYIN2SG9k9W3HExSOd4L6PvU0HZK3Rz3i1zJFxAEATKAUGYC8URRLMHLMY IPiRb+MU+Hyb5fQGGNE3FgjTfUoWXa4cgfBi9+n/xplGeJ7tdLkBm7J46n4rDiGNu3o7 qfcgt9mGcztRPUV9P9D3K2Gw+rjQX74qIooGqHIRa80E4IphHpnbHbP1Q7AxgANB1SWB N9bsS6+841IbO+otDxcV5+e+qeiqojw/8Ki/fuS4+gIMxdO5Vut1sdipT26GeY8PMioZ zawg== X-Received: by 10.224.185.198 with SMTP id cp6mr45221379qab.59.1362580447518; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 06:34:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.99] ([96.236.21.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm48021247qed.6.2013.03.06.06.34.06 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Mar 2013 06:34:06 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: cmake fails to build under 9.1 From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <5136293F.10808@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 09:34:06 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <273C931C-3D04-4F55-865C-8D7929569F25@kraus-haus.org> References: <5136293F.10808@gmail.com> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlOIMlLHZFrZ+WfcNzaSbVEjG/P8IcfQXOOT4SOBmaQ7TrdPr7h15Z0DfSTpjMA8HPu8UME X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 14:34:15 -0000 On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:19 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko = wrote: > 05.03.2013 18:51, Paul Kraus: >> In trying to build NagIOS, one of the dependencies is cmake and it is = failing to build. See below. And if I run make again it will fail on a = different file, see further down. Any ideas ? I am running 64 bit 9.1 = under VBox 4.2.6 and the parent host is Mac OS X 10.8. >=20 > Any messages on the system console? No. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 21:50:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051488BA for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 21:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: from mail-qa0-f46.google.com (mail-qa0-f46.google.com [209.85.216.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA464A92 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 21:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id o13so2840014qaj.5 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:50:51 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=Dc6fAIOA7RMwgHjsMM7rm3xxoBUxxUMnZ8u62OsfdHE=; b=fgpyaAo7t2soT8ysJAkZ8wCdDnaHMJCOMn2wQva2sZbPmzyp2xT+ru2vCJGYyp41EU JpKRXyuCI7qzMwpwSaIvDiOk5CF6rDl4Zgb906iJXhfuMmOeCD/mbSgRB7e2628BgTXl 88Ic/VAntZ2qFsLpVq3weKu/rHD08dazWl5tk81VuYSNbxuID+52WHunC0kG8g8Y6G+2 ige+n779CI7Rg44MakMTKRUzvLrqDZX4u7Lw0VwIuwfizgw5TJZkRea/8OXS8brokON4 LYOzk3fwCxjiPyWqdbChqIsRcAsmdUs6Zg6KQ0U4jmts4dB+Hw1RS7NaFsSOkP56WX0D FsDA== X-Received: by 10.224.178.4 with SMTP id bk4mr46928636qab.70.1362606650868; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:50:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.99] ([96.236.21.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pf8sm3863500qeb.7.2013.03.06.13.50.49 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:50:50 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: Booting from an aribrary disk in ZFS RAIDZ on 8.x From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <20130305184446.GA81297@polands.org> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 16:50:47 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5177CF5D-D677-4158-8179-0304D803F531@kraus-haus.org> References: <20130305184446.GA81297@polands.org> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQka9k2A6y8aZgGK4Grq4n4MZkvFOFkP5xV7uqVufISLh/FbBuJMTVVO4/FzGuNS6fK1jqTm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 21:50:52 -0000 On Mar 5, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Doug Poland wrote: > I'm running ZFS filesystem ver 3, storage pool ver 14, on 8-STABLE > amd64. The kernel build is rather dated from around Feb 2010. >=20 > I have 6 disks in a RAIDZ configuration. All disks were sliced > the same with gpart (da(n)p1,p2,p3) with bootcode written to index 1, > swap on index 2 and freebsd-zfs on index 3. >=20 > Given this configuration, I should be able to boot from any of the 6 > disks in the RAIDZ. If this is a true statement, how do I make that > happen from the loader prompt? Boot in terms of root FS or in terms of boot loader ?=20 The boot loader would be set in your BIOS (which physical drive you read = for that). / comes from the zpool/zfs dataset once the boot loader loads = enough code to find and mount the filesystem. That comes from all the = drives in the zpool. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 22:16:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F4B236 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 22:16:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: from rs2.shuttle.de (rs2.shuttle.de [IPv6:2001:638:206:3::8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D04BDE for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 22:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rs2.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 0A8185806B; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 23:16:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r26LPRTo092293 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 22:25:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r26LPR4p092292 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 22:25:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from schweikh) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 22:25:27 +0100 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Anyone got an EPSON Perfection V33 scanner working? Message-ID: <20130306212527.GB92049@schweikhardt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 22:16:45 -0000 hello, world\n so I got an EPSON Perfection V33 scanner, needless to say it works under Win7 with the provided SW on the CD. Needless to say, it's one of those scanners unsupported by SANE according to their list, http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-EPSON While it can be probed with # sane-find-scanner -q found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0142 [EPSON Perfection V33/V330]) at libusb:/dev/usb:/dev/ugen3.3 that's about the end of it. A lot of googling turned up that some company named Avasys/Seiko/Epson provides an "Image Scan!" application for Linux, which, strangely enough, also uses some sane-backend. Now before I try to make that pig fly by installing rpms in the Linuxulator, (just to find out that for yet more obscure reason this does't work so easily), has anyone gotten a V33 to successfully scan under FreeBSD? Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 22:40:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCCC9BE for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 22:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040B9D6D for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 22:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id es5so8451652wgb.29 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 14:40:38 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=f421auX15QD05pRhlg2WCmfOx64MrxcVb+OP+EVKM7k=; b=MToRmjZtNg1pTp0PipzS+UFcxS6A6+k6wpL+ifPxfTXZTsSL2UsBc03UwhLRClfzIz WQGBWlewBDEvJKe72TJ9cPwXR3WrqCMp6K099yKRfxOTBQpGiTfqyZjeRM1VbOOStFOy feJGz7cs3QQ4loC9n3ABjfTDRBuQir42BETRjGRKrJtWNMCFVYGPxNBi8eYtaoAprLD8 1JZpJiOriopXtaG+EAnQwPOLZrcbwBggur/Vj3iGBD2rPveePOGObbQqX5zCpX7i0yC2 joXRO+XlKPyaYOwHg/0SHNszpQPt7iNYEb1XS2J6kS7p1DLb3t4gozyPhV2E0owJaK94 4ndA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.82.34 with SMTP id f2mr32450552wjy.25.1362609638193; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 14:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.97.135 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:40:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130306212527.GB92049@schweikhardt.net> References: <20130306212527.GB92049@schweikhardt.net> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:40:38 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anyone got an EPSON Perfection V33 scanner working? From: Alejandro Imass To: Jens Schweikhardt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlBxUHTpBOSSulvhTXV50pICC0WiL8IyDhf2O714g8guGXEybzH7i8VOR2l+7CiQafIH9QX Cc: questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 22:40:45 -0000 On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > hello, world\n > > so I got an EPSON Perfection V33 scanner, needless to say it works > under Win7 with the provided SW on the CD. > > Needless to say, it's one of those scanners unsupported by SANE > according to their list, http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-EPSON > On Sane Linux yes. Haven't tried on FBSD. It needs some binaries provided with the scan and iscan plugins. I got the RPMs and alienated to deb and it gets the Epson Perfection working on a Debian system. Maybe you can do something with Sane on Linuxator on FBSD and the binaries I have. I have the RPMs and I can send them to you or post them somewhere for download. Cheers, -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 23:28:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6496D1BC for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 23:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E419BFF8 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 23:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f44.google.com with SMTP id l10so6127057eei.17 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:27:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=/hffEQSmozhjSsSZfDQyIw0AQsTiexVtiwh5T5y2TsQ=; b=nCovdv8oLvNSnx7I0ec5E8Rcip5/uNADdWCnBUMPvyvey7oY9+MMJvyYn5rxhYDsQD sXHZEABEnwIjSh7ihKhGfbDCjvNsGixASH+S9j1EdQIPpAzZijth+98pJkrskGOyiLaQ YbBgFuyc0u/tjaoPJQjo2/sN4qlTYTCSgy6BCH3jVz9bQGCptqT18aAT6G9uT3rvqaIs cOISdCy4kIgwdnd+Cn2RVD2TZ6+Xs1b35mcaqC/doXsAX9YqfIzmgWqNCYihw8AkfmHe f76OMyQO07IBbWOMXBL/FZ1DPjGqdQ32yb2CY6z1CkVFejllsWOEjMKeXMX11DGbA/yH /kBg== X-Received: by 10.14.207.73 with SMTP id m49mr87232562eeo.24.1362612479550; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d47sm44831101eem.9.2013.03.06.15.27.57 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:27:58 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 00:27:52 +0100 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Arthur Chance Subject: Re: Zlib version in FreeBSD - 3 releases behind? Message-ID: <20130306232750.GA25598@saturn> References: <20130305161158.GB9376@saturn> <5136F918.70105@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5136F918.70105@qeng-ho.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, KrisUniverse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 23:28:01 -0000 On 2013-03-06 08:06, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 03/05/13 16:12, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >On 2013-03-04 07:28, KrisUniverse wrote: > >>The Zlib baked into FreeBSD is Zlib 1.2.4 even on 9.1R. > >> > >>However, Zlib has gone to 1.2.7 sometime ago after stepping through > >>1.2.5, 1.2.6 and 1.2.7 with bug fixes. > >> > >>Is there any reason for not using Zlib 1.2.7? > > > >I don't have a 9.1-RELEASE system nearby, but I think zlib 1.2.7 _should_ > >already be there... Are you sure it's still an old version? > > On my machine: > > # uname -r > 9.1-RELEASE > > [It's actually -p1 but I've not bothered replacing the kernel as the > problems were in user space.] > > # grep 'define ZLIB_VERSION' /usr/src/lib/libz/zlib.h > #define ZLIB_VERSION "1.2.7" That's what I'd expect. Thanks :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 01:41:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DAFB1E for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 01:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ee0-f43.google.com (mail-ee0-f43.google.com [74.125.83.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBEBE82A for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 01:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f43.google.com with SMTP id c50so6391446eek.16 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:41:42 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=7/kasXH680xp9MxVjSMLn/PFWNEr3UR6h1yRGiGsZoo=; b=hjqDa0YGi8659270L9wvTSfw9TByKciyKqJnKJX+gnVXiw2rz4w3QtEo4ZZ8h44Qhg q7u5e0bKsfZeuu/2YYajp3yFQ2laq/RCEm5HCSDBtPOAdv8bdJQS4tRhsgmpqhYS3i7Z 2ekly/GyceBuTzDl5sIM3iuvACK3N2/voXH3OJjLEcVF89ejU9oHOfCRlYMx6XZUKrA1 j0xy0scQwSYL0mhkwfN6kFkBL+McprcetRgOqg9izF7aNTctnY12mQBgejRVogNKmgv6 QZlmhf/UJLvSfQbd3VsJrLrY72Gwb7SCAl9JiLNbOqjwqkz4gQSb1co1x1oNZTsO+GkN 7rWg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.14.184.68 with SMTP id r44mr87303942eem.40.1362620502261; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:41:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.133.79 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:41:42 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.204] In-Reply-To: <51351410.4060600@cyberleo.net> References: <6126.1362396930@server1.tristatelogic.com> <51351410.4060600@cyberleo.net> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 17:41:42 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: backups using rsync From: David Brodbeck To: CyberLeo Kitsana X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmPbzPHEhHvfpsLFNCPniYGExt+XtiKhdGNkKacyOsnFKdzTiKNS8RjqR+Ev0ZSjM7ijwNx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Ronald F. Guilmette" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 01:41:44 -0000 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:37 PM, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > You can use dump(8) to dump a SU-journaled filesystem; you just cannot > create a snapshot. This implies that dump(8) will be run against the > live and possibly changing filesystem, which can lead to issues with the > consistency of the contents of files thus dumped; but not necessarily > with the consistency of the dump itself. Any tool that backs up a live > filesystem, such as rsync or tar, will have these issues. > Note that this is mainly a problem for things like databases, where the contents of multiple files, or different portions of the same file, have to be in sync. For example, take your typical MySQL database table. You have the actual data, in a .MYD file, and the indexes, in a .MYI file. If your rsync backup hits while a table is being updated, it might get the .MYD file before an update, and the .MYI file after, leaving the table and index inconsistent. Or it might catch the .MYD file *partway* through an update, giving a file that's internally inconsistent. This is likely to give very unexpected results if you load the backup back into the database. Note that even if you take a filesystem snapshot, if you don't halt database updates while you take it, you can still end up with inconsistent files. Snapshots are mostly useful for limiting the downtime in these kinds of scenarios -- instead of taking the DB offline for the whole backup window, you just down it long enough to take the snapshot. In the absence of snapshots, the easiest way is to use whatever backup tools the database offers to make sure a consistent copy exists to be backed up. For example, before you run the backup, run mysqlhotcopy or mysqldump to write-lock the database, make consistent backup copies of all the files, then unlock it. That way, even if the backup of the active database is inconsistent, the copies that were backed up along with it are guaranteed to be consistent. Anything database-like can have this problem; another common example is a Subversion FSFS repository. Backing it up without running "svnadmin hotcopy" first is asking for corrupt commits when you do a restore. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 04:41:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABCE26D for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 04:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:44b8:8060:ff02:300:1:6:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D742FE5E for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 04:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp247-71.static.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([203.122.247.71]) by ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 07 Mar 2013 15:11:31 +1030 Message-ID: <51381A79.2070305@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:11:29 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Poland Subject: Re: Booting from an aribrary disk in ZFS RAIDZ on 8.x References: <20130305184446.GA81297@polands.org> <5136B047.3000700@ShaneWare.Biz> <20130306042456.GA92710@polands.org> In-Reply-To: <20130306042456.GA92710@polands.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 04:41:34 -0000 On 06/03/2013 14:54, Doug Poland wrote: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 01:26:07PM +1030, Shane Ambler wrote: >> On 06/03/2013 05:14, Doug Poland wrote: >>> I have 6 disks in a RAIDZ configuration. All disks were sliced >>> the same with gpart (da(n)p1,p2,p3) with bootcode written to >>> index 1, swap on index 2 and freebsd-zfs on index 3. >>> >>> Given this configuration, I should be able to boot from any of >>> the 6 disks in the RAIDZ. If this is a true statement, how do I >>> make that happen from the loader prompt? >> >> You don't boot from an individual disk you boot from a zpool - all >> disks are linked together making one zpool "disk". >> > Something has to pick a physical device from which to boot, does it > not?. All the HP Smart Array 6i controller knows is I have 6 RAID 0 > disks to present to the OS. I meant to add if the bootcode is installed on each disk then pointing the bios to any individual disk as the primary boot device will lead to the boot process loading the zpool. Installing it on each disk gives the redundancy to match the raid in the zpool. If you only have one disk with bootcode and it is the one that needs replacing then you can't boot. Then having 100 disks in a pool with bootcode would be overkill, but the consistency may be easier to maintain. >> I'm guessing that you ask as your machine isn't booting. You >> probably need to boot from a cd and do adjustments. >> > Not exactly, I have a failing disk in slot 0, which corresponds to > da0 in my device list (AKA gpt/disk0). I want to make sure I can > boot if I pull this disk and replace it. If the zpool redundancy is sufficient for the zpool to work without the drive it shouldn't make any difference as to how the disk "disappears" only that the data is accessible/rebuildable. > I've had issues with this RAID controller in the past where it won't > present the new disk to the OS. I've had to reboot, go into the > RAID config and tell it it's a single RAID 0 device (stupid, I > know). When you think about it, as a raid controller it shouldn't make assumptions as to how to use the new disk, should it add it to an existing raid set, replace a missing drive or show it as a new single drive? Being able to specify per socket as permanently jbod could be useful feature though. > The roll of /boot/zfs/zpool.cache is a mystery to me. I belive it > somehow tells ZFS what devices are in use. What if a disk goes > offline or is removed? > As I understand it the zpool.cache contains the zpools mounted by the system. After reboot it then re-imports each zpool in the cache. I believe a recent commit enabled the vfs.root.mountfrom zpool to be imported even if there was no cache available. From what I have heard and seen the data about the zpool it belongs to and the role the disk plays in the zpool is stored on each disk and duplicated at the beginning and end of the disk. In my early experiments after starting clean even after gparting and zeroing out the start of the disks, zpool still says it belongs to a pool. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 09:56:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58D232E for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:56:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4F2E80 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UDXJf-00068A-Uk for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 09:40:48 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UDXJf-0003st-HW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 09:40:47 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r279elU0001083 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:40:47 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r279elHS001082 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:40:47 GMT (envelope-from mexas) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:40:47 GMT From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201303070940.r279elHS001082@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: fetchmail/sendmail: Domain of sender address does not exist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 09:56:09 -0000 I'm running sendmail, and using fetchmail to fetch my mail from the university IMAP server. I sometimes see fetchmail complain: fetchmail: SMTP error: 553 5.1.8 ... Domain of sender address admin@system.mail does not exist And this is doubled in /var/log/maillog: sm-mta[14642]: r270BO3L014642: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=, relay=localhost [127.0. 0.1], reject=553 5.1.8 ... Domain of sender address admin@system.mail does not exist How do I set fetchmail and sendmail to fetch such emails? Thanks Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 10:01:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E584E478 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD921EBA for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from irix.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.39] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UDXdI-0007dA-HT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:01:09 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UDXdI-00011B-8h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:01:04 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r27A133x000887 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:01:03 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r27A13A5000885 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:01:03 GMT (envelope-from mexas) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:01:03 GMT From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201303071001.r27A13A5000885@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: process eating up all memory - what should happen next? X-Spam-Score: -3.8 X-Spam-Level: --- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:01:11 -0000 I have a process that eats up al memory, in my case science/paraview if I try to analyse a large model. What should FreeBSD do when a process tries to use all RAM or more? I my case I get a complete freeze, can't even login from the console, and requiring a cold reboot. I guess this is not supposed to happen, but what is supposed to happen in situations like this? This is on ia64, so it might be something to do with instability there. Thanks Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 10:18:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A104640 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:18:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E84F43 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-109-47.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.109.47]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA4C278B6; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:17:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r27AHuEi087834; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:17:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:17:56 +0100 From: Polytropon To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk Subject: Re: process eating up all memory - what should happen next? Message-Id: <20130307111756.e4e31a9c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201303071001.r27A13A5000885@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <201303071001.r27A13A5000885@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:18:00 -0000 On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:01:03 GMT, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I have a process that eats up al memory, > in my case science/paraview if I try to > analyse a large model. What should FreeBSD > do when a process tries to use all RAM or more? In this case, the swap space would be used, until the system runs out of swap space. > I my case I get a complete freeze, can't even > login from the console, and requiring a cold > reboot. I guess this is not supposed to happen, > but what is supposed to happen in situations like this? A normal reboot (including a proper shutdown) should at least be possible. If the machine seems to freeze entirely, this simply looks wrong, so maybe it's more than just eating all the RAM? You could try to impose a resource limit, see "man limits" for details, so you could "trigger" the undesired behaviour while e. g. only 50% of the available RAM is being used by _that_ process (and therefor still leaving enough resources for other system and user processes). You could also monitor resource consumption with tools like top, htop, vmstat or systat in adjacent xterms while you run the test, seeing "trouble pile up"... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 10:35:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0192BF2 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pettefar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x234.google.com (mail-la0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7525D1000 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:35:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fs12so285337lab.25 for ; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 02:35:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:reply-to:sender:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=mHaNbGWXFHn19URvisWrwAVX5FyTGYWiSUufPVsTIG0=; b=K3a41B5s44ve4gYja0TZQOuR9xjF0I+RBStt4e5YADNFDlnyP/85JXCm903GehxzLl MC0AIOZKJCT5BU8idW9Y4CUop/vQltclBajyZLUyU8yjbWByLfLBiuC38TC4ihTDChFa AUGDV1OcnT1RjKZbqH2s0t4J1AKKMr1FXJOl7xhr/wbPmCy1M+ExX0ZSvZUFuhMevgI5 /7Ix3RADAvu39EBO7hiIx3eAaFxwlwAXNe5VktdA//onlM4v8tzlY+mClk4cw35cOt48 +fdb5v92b1STP0L9seZy6o2Zku0hEe03LQGdmMUOuKgy6st8aiiLe05K5//O/oTmqlZy osCg== X-Received: by 10.112.49.106 with SMTP id t10mr8899786lbn.6.1362652507891; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 02:35:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: pettefar@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.101.202 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 02:34:37 -0800 (PST) From: Nick Pettefar Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:34:37 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: yVi0Wzd4elsor4NPaRkuun2MKFQ Message-ID: Subject: Raspberry Pi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick@Pettefar.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:35:10 -0000 Hi, where can I download the Raspberry Pi version please? Regards, Nick Pettefar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 10:43:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1948DB3 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636C5EF for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (lon.namesco.net [195.7.254.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r27Ahore018100 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:43:50 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <51386F65.4040704@unsane.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:43:49 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130216 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nick@Pettefar.com Subject: Re: Raspberry Pi References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:43:53 -0000 On 07/03/2013 10:34, Nick Pettefar wrote: > Hi, where can I download the Raspberry Pi version please? There's no official release for it but http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3094 and there were some build instructions at http://kernelnomicon.org/?p=275 I havent got a pi and havent tried either of these though. Vince > > Regards, > > Nick Pettefar > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 10:43:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863EADB4 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D8FF0 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-109-47.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.109.47]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2233427786; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:43:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r27Ai1BG017955; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:44:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:44:01 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Nick@Pettefar.com Subject: Re: Raspberry Pi Message-Id: <20130307114401.c40e9aed.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:43:58 -0000 On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:34:37 +0000, Nick Pettefar wrote: > Hi, where can I download the Raspberry Pi version please? I think you'll need the arm version of FreeBSD. Check those links for more information: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3094 http://www.freebsdarm.org/ http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/arm.html https://wiki.freebsd.org/WhatsNew/FreeBSD10#Overall_system_.2F_architectural_changes http://people.freebsd.org/~dmarion/beaglebone/creating_bootable_sd_card/ http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=30148 You can obtain more references by employing a google search. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 11:20:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF3345C for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03067217 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED643A38AA for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:09:58 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= subject:subject:from:from:message-id:date:date:received:received :received; s=selector1; t=1362654598; x=1364468999; bh=E374AuxsR puOL8Hqr9hz5/+/R/IwkS6H64bMWHT3+E4=; b=T1gm0U8RwWRpCWxvvXCk7WR1k UQEHsm+pW9xWLD9X2pHnUUH7YbEu8PDls+uXJT8zIapAEpAiDlx9VQGyInLuhCy3 ZnQiKnz+SFFw79NgThBzvnrKYT3g4500ql43LPr81zyPEuTUmhZmivvR41Dl4FdZ jWrRoMXH5aRuYuMjWY= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id QE8VXUPRGsaB for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:09:58 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 940983A3885 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:09:58 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r27B9vTv031483; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:09:57 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:09:57 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <201303071109.r27B9vTv031483@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Reccording from a webcam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:20:05 -0000 Hi, I have a machine running FreeBSD 6.4. I can hardly upgrade it because it is more or less an embeded system. Until recently I was reccording video through a video graber card (brooktree I think), with mencoder, but the card died. The easiest way would be to use a USB camera; I plugged one in and it came as /dev/ugen0. When I try to use mplayer, it tells me that the driver v4l2 does not exist, nor v4l. Current version of mplayer/mencoder is 1.0rc2-3.4.6, I tried to compile the latest version, but I have issue with the Makefile in the ports. So the question is, what else could I use to record a video (command line). Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 11:48:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F88DD12 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962CB347 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:48:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com ([10.1.101.214]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MT5po-1UNuLX0b3O-00S9WP for ; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:48:09 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Mar 2013 11:48:08 -0000 Received: from 188.4.187.226.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr (EHLO [127.0.0.1]) [188.4.187.226] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu014) with SMTP; 07 Mar 2013 12:48:08 +0100 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19tMWBGt7JtUXr9b7tqNIkC2MFrT5k3guG2Z91OKT JhsNX2+Ges3o9g Message-ID: <51387E79.80204@gmx.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 13:48:09 +0200 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: process eating up all memory - what should happen next? References: <201303071001.r27A13A5000885@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20130307111756.e4e31a9c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130307111756.e4e31a9c.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: mexas@bristol.ac.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:48:16 -0000 On 7/3/2013 12:17 μμ, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:01:03 GMT, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> I have a process that eats up al memory, >> in my case science/paraview if I try to >> analyse a large model. What should FreeBSD >> do when a process tries to use all RAM or more? > > In this case, the swap space would be used, until the > system runs out of swap space. > > > >> I my case I get a complete freeze, can't even >> login from the console, and requiring a cold >> reboot. I guess this is not supposed to happen, >> but what is supposed to happen in situations like this? > > A normal reboot (including a proper shutdown) should > at least be possible. If the machine seems to freeze > entirely, this simply looks wrong, so maybe it's more > than just eating all the RAM? > > You could try to impose a resource limit, see "man limits" > for details, so you could "trigger" the undesired behaviour > while e. g. only 50% of the available RAM is being used > by _that_ process (and therefor still leaving enough > resources for other system and user processes). You could > also monitor resource consumption with tools like top, > htop, vmstat or systat in adjacent xterms while you run > the test, seeing "trouble pile up"... > > > I think Anton is interested in the system's behavior when there is no enforced limit. Processes tend to be killed quite quickly when there is no on-disk swap backing. > root@awethu:/root # swapinfo > Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity > root@awethu:/root # nice python -c 'a = [f for f in range(80000000)]' > Killed When on-disk swap backing exists and multiple processes are competing for memory things are are not that straightforward. I think you hit a bug on ia64. Could you test the behavior using the above "program" and report back? I would run top in one terminal(so i can monitor and kill the program) and I would use a second terminal to run the program using increasingly larger values. Also, I wouldn't try that under X, at least i would test first without X... HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 12:16:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3A27B8 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matrix@itlegion.ru) Received: from corpmail.itlegion.ru (corpmail.itlegion.ru [84.21.226.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13B166C1 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 74087 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2013 16:10:01 +0400 Received: from localhost-artem.itlegion.ru (HELO ?192.168.0.12?) (192.168.0.12) by 84.21.226.211 with SMTP; 7 Mar 2013 16:10:01 +0400 Message-ID: <51388398.5030409@itlegion.ru> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 16:10:00 +0400 From: Artem Kuchin Organization: IT Legion User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: gjournal for hosting server Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:16:45 -0000 Hello! I am setting up a new hosting server which will host about 100 sites and mysql databases for them. I've read about gjournal and as i see the following benefits: 1) NO fsck after crash 2) 2x speed for small files writes 3) Some extra speed for small files reads (why???) The web servers are mostly serving tons of small files and do tons of small writes. I thinks the all in all with gjournal the fs speed should be higher. Any thoughts? Artem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 13:09:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D156E3 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:09:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkontos.mail@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-f43.google.com (mail-pa0-f43.google.com [209.85.220.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2178C2 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id bh2so461251pad.2 for ; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 05:09:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=m4HCG35Qtl/7I3ZoE9GJgJVsM21FBoZs7V2nP8d3AWQ=; b=WHazjzuWBK4zU5r05KTiLm3o1Hws/tXuFd89LKVqDQ2rAdkxnp3juPoF+PV4pfUM19 pMG77ey1ovsMqdCjz42WDAnYFtXbcI96ZdPeuEzxROGuX0mPfTfeJ9qcoAabIMfsBQqd sMbPA9V2KVaox2zvHY2fJ+gBEBMgt1pI+jsJ2XsKZxR74RrYGUkMNlFdEG1quvsO9Q6+ iW9Qusnmz2mRfgO7wYfkj7TMiNdEA1AXVPwb4OZerYYpMB3CMfG52lE52yXgxAo8IILo miW7RjTuleV1fIxhpl3oxl7bm2fqGuMZ4GqM8zAgJDYnXdLKkfrJ7DJsNRoRQqDa6Dtc D2sA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.34.36 with SMTP id w4mr37573514pbi.125.1362661743955; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 05:09:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.147.136 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 05:09:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1362177513.29467.21.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> References: <1BBFCBC0B60383A7EC5EC83C@utd71538.campus.ad.utdallas.edu> <1362177513.29467.21.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:09:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FBSD 9.1.0 - make buildworld running for 1.5 hours??? From: George Kontostanos To: FreeBSD Questions List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 13:09:04 -0000 On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > Em Sex, 2013-03-01 =E0s 12:29 -0600, Paul Schmehl escreveu: > >> I'm running make buildworld on a quad processor quad core box with 16GB = of >> ram, and it's been running already for more than an hour and a half. Ha= s >> world really gotten that huge? Good lord! Good thing we have >> freebsd-update! >> > > Perhaps you did not use the -j option on the make buildworld... > > > env NOCLEAN=3Dyes DESTDIR=3D make -j 4 buildworld > > without the -j option it runs on only one processor and can take up to 5 > hours... > > > > Sergio > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" You can easily go to -j16 if the box is not doing anything else. What are your current load averages? --=20 George Kontostanos --- http://www.aisecure.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 13:45:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60D76AE for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71AA5A9E for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-109-47.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.109.47]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433263CF51; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:44:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r27Dj14E092735; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:45:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:45:01 +0100 From: Polytropon To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk Subject: Re: fetchmail/sendmail: Domain of sender address does not exist Message-Id: <20130307144501.37632a8a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201303070940.r279elHS001082@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <201303070940.r279elHS001082@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 13:45:07 -0000 On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 09:40:47 GMT, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > How do I set fetchmail and sendmail to fetch > such emails? Maybe it helps if you add the options "fetchall flush" to your .fetchmailrc configuration file? I've had a similar problem some years ago and I think this was the solution. See "man fetchmail" for the corresponding command line options (and you could probably add -v to see what's actually going on). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 14:03:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10538D4C for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from mailgate2.plexus.com (mailgate2.plexus.com [64.211.22.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C28BE8 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgate2.plexus.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696791A1B67; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 07:33:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from Neen-mail-009.na.plexus.com (unknown [10.255.48.136]) by mailgate2.plexus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0F91A23B1; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 07:33:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from lystra.neenah.na.plexus.com (206.209.255.11) by Neen-mail-009.na.plexus.com (10.255.48.136) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.328.9; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 07:33:20 -0600 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 07:33:20 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: Shane Ambler Subject: Re: Booting from an aribrary disk in ZFS RAIDZ on 8.x Message-ID: <20130307133319.GA71468@lystra.neenah.na.plexus.com> References: <20130305184446.GA81297@polands.org> <5136B047.3000700@ShaneWare.Biz> <20130306042456.GA92710@polands.org> <51381A79.2070305@ShaneWare.Biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51381A79.2070305@ShaneWare.Biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-TM-AS-MML: No X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-8.2.0.1597-7.0.0.1014-19694.007 X-TM-AS-Result: No--20.569-4.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--20.569-4.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-8.2.0.1597-7.0.1014-19694.007 X-TMASE-Result: 10--20.569100-5.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: 0dFPYP4mu5QOwH4pD14DsPHkpkyUphL91KoSW5Ji1XuzTLPEogYO4EXm qHshxrcjRXJR/yrOMl+bqzDH9G7eTPatsGs9O72pgMKLAwXrj8FAg1IWH8kbY5UMECmkBP+l/F1 Brea7byKfI9eqmP8Wu7pukerCcV5JErPe+EcoU4udtRmRhPNchl3KZkFy4YZE9ItC2dmXn119qT NwMiKD+qPnTZgndIdNZyrb9KuymCZoRvAKYVTCorMjW/sniEQKH45GXKADbKLruHLA2CJi3eXoA zgBreAWdkps8KxOe2xpob5Q6RKb6RZK05xEkCkCsK+WWVTsOXUYR+gKWoGXzoxsO/peQ4cNy7dO fKnHiUYH9WrAO77U/rHn/HPzhGPjlHVBLjBDrjkSWCj0fkOcnDpVtQQHm78w3XgCp7wTMXyEsNW kHG22z58wAJkwWx+vWaNzC4DdSNCI0KPyMNrNUiSxIFlMYKvCyJ1gFgOMhOn6APa9i04WGCq2rl 3dzGQ1A/3R8k/14e0= Cc: FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 14:03:21 -0000 On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 03:11:29PM +1030, Shane Ambler wrote: > On 06/03/2013 14:54, Doug Poland wrote: > >On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 01:26:07PM +1030, Shane Ambler wrote: > >>On 06/03/2013 05:14, Doug Poland wrote: > > >>>I have 6 disks in a RAIDZ configuration. All disks were sliced the > >>>same with gpart (da(n)p1,p2,p3) with bootcode written to index 1, > >>>swap on index 2 and freebsd-zfs on index 3. > >>> > >>>Given this configuration, I should be able to boot from any of the > >>>6 disks in the RAIDZ. If this is a true statement, how do I make > >>>that happen from the loader prompt? > >> > >>You don't boot from an individual disk you boot from a zpool - all > >>disks are linked together making one zpool "disk". > >> > >Something has to pick a physical device from which to boot, does it > >not?. All the HP Smart Array 6i controller knows is I have 6 RAID 0 > >disks to present to the OS. > > I meant to add if the bootcode is installed on each disk then pointing > the bios to any individual disk as the primary boot device will lead > to the boot process loading the zpool. Installing it on each disk > gives the redundancy to match the raid in the zpool. If you only have > one disk with bootcode and it is the one that needs replacing then you > can't boot. Then having 100 disks in a pool with bootcode would be > overkill, but the consistency may be easier to maintain. > So in my case, the HP SmartArray doesn't allow me to choose an individual boot disk. So it's up to the controller to keep trying to boot from the next configured disk. I believe I'm going to craft a test to prove this out. > >I've had issues with this RAID controller in the past where it won't > >present the new disk to the OS. I've had to reboot, go into the > >RAID config and tell it it's a single RAID 0 device (stupid, I > >know). > > When you think about it, as a raid controller it shouldn't make > assumptions as to how to use the new disk, should it add it to an > existing raid set, replace a missing drive or show it as a new single > drive? Being able to specify per socket as permanently jbod could be > useful feature though. > One would think. I've been testing this on a similarly configured machine and the controller eventually presents a new drive to the OS. It takes a couple of minutes, but appears to work on this test box. > >The roll of /boot/zfs/zpool.cache is a mystery to me. I belive it > >somehow tells ZFS what devices are in use. What if a disk goes > >offline or is removed? > > > > As I understand it the zpool.cache contains the zpools mounted by the > system. After reboot it then re-imports each zpool in the cache. I > believe a recent commit enabled the vfs.root.mountfrom zpool to be > imported even if there was no cache available. > > From what I have heard and seen the data about the zpool it belongs to > and the role the disk plays in the zpool is stored on each disk and > duplicated at the beginning and end of the disk. In my early > experiments after starting clean even after gparting and zeroing out > the start of the disks, zpool still says it belongs to a pool. > If that's the case, I wonder about the wisdom of re-using a drive from my test configuration? My plan has been to prove this out on test and use the same disk from test and insert it into production. One would think ZFS is smart enough to recognize a "different" drive has been inserted, even if it has the same gpart structure and came from a pool with the same name. Thanks for your help. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 15:52:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EBC58A for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from eris.bzerk.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:980:18dd:1:192:168:179:45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A88251 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eris.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eris.bzerk.org (8.14.6/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r27FqrEP024944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:52:54 GMT (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by eris.bzerk.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r27FqrGZ024943 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:52:53 GMT (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) X-Authentication-Warning: eris.bzerk.org: bulk set sender to mail25@bzerk.org using -f Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:52:53 +0000 From: Ruben de Groot To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: no 9.1-release packages? Message-ID: <20130307155253.GA24876@eris.bzerk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AUTHD_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eris.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (eris.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:52:57 +0000 (UTC) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:52:59 -0000 Hi, I just rented a 9.1-release VPS and was trying to install some packages. This however does not work as there is no directory "packages-9.1-release" on the ftp server (ftp.freebsd.org). Why is this? ftp> pwd Remote directory: /pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64 ftp> ls 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||40379|). 150 Here comes the directory listing. lrwxrwxrwx 1 633 493 15 Apr 19 2007 packages -> packages-stable drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Jul 17 2012 packages-10-current drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Oct 07 08:18 packages-7-stable drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Oct 11 16:19 packages-8-stable drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Feb 10 2011 packages-8.2-release drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Mar 28 2012 packages-8.3-release lrwxr-xr-x 1 967 100 17 Dec 09 2011 packages-9-current -> packages-9-stable drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Oct 16 21:26 packages-9-stable drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Dec 29 2011 packages-9.0-release lrwxr-xr-x 1 967 100 19 Dec 03 2011 packages-current -> packages-10-current lrwxr-xr-x 1 967 100 17 Nov 07 2011 packages-stable -> packages-9-stable ftp> -- Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 15:58:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3797567B for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:58:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joh.hendriks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com (mail-ee0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C89228C for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f44.google.com with SMTP id l10so456885eei.17 for ; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 07:58:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+KBJuRnTfSMJMMe72TENDFVBzXPAWoWFl8sI7Q7fcXg=; b=t+EXGBEEKgjvDq4FlMPRBIeRkfVRYrIJSg+KoTbI24ogcebjgfR+/M1MJHjuvzHcDy 8IlRPFcIcEyYpKP+7C3K1v8TrUZFfMiJfTzIbzdIOnaNyI1bhMwiZ+fsnpkQVm0pDviL +BmxCHzET/sGke2d2OeCbHiovpEXDnZAygQ82LZTmkPB4ESHWGGP3yNx3ZBkY8kkSPdt VhK/7qH0hsHm4ZaNOotc6ZSiNqUVgAJQUvgftzpgWWeeFSCQb46iEvf4quA6Mb1h0ZbC ZkUC5uijCo5ULhWJWF5De189j953KK4vHJW3NgfRJmmDpSMK8mPZu9JKMXh9hj/LfoKb YEAw== X-Received: by 10.14.220.135 with SMTP id o7mr95455867eep.3.1362671921078; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 07:58:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.129] (schavemaker.nl. [213.84.84.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q5sm2834482eeo.17.2013.03.07.07.58.39 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Mar 2013 07:58:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5138B92F.4060800@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 16:58:39 +0100 From: Johan Hendriks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruben de Groot Subject: Re: no 9.1-release packages? References: <20130307155253.GA24876@eris.bzerk.org> In-Reply-To: <20130307155253.GA24876@eris.bzerk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:58:49 -0000 Ruben de Groot schreef: > Hi, > > I just rented a 9.1-release VPS and was trying to install some packages. > This however does not work as there is no directory "packages-9.1-release" on the ftp server (ftp.freebsd.org). Why is this? > > ftp> pwd > Remote directory: /pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64 > ftp> ls > 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||40379|). > 150 Here comes the directory listing. > lrwxrwxrwx 1 633 493 15 Apr 19 2007 packages -> packages-stable > drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Jul 17 2012 packages-10-current > drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Oct 07 08:18 packages-7-stable > drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Oct 11 16:19 packages-8-stable > drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Feb 10 2011 packages-8.2-release > drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Mar 28 2012 packages-8.3-release > lrwxr-xr-x 1 967 100 17 Dec 09 2011 packages-9-current -> packages-9-stable > drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Oct 16 21:26 packages-9-stable > drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Dec 29 2011 packages-9.0-release > lrwxr-xr-x 1 967 100 19 Dec 03 2011 packages-current -> packages-10-current > lrwxr-xr-x 1 967 100 17 Nov 07 2011 packages-stable -> packages-9-stable > ftp> > > -- > Ruben > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" There was a security issue and therefor there are no packages for 9.1 Due to the security incident reported here: http://www.FreeBSD.org/news/2012-compromise.html only the small third-party package set on the DVD image is available at this time for users who require pre-built packages (just GNOME and KDE windowing systems). The FreeBSD Project's package building infrastructure is undergoing a complete review and redesign. At this time we can not commit to a date the full release package set will become available. A separate announcement will be made when that becomes available. If you wish to install 9.1-RELEASE now you can build your own packages using portsnap(8) to obtain an up to date ports tree and then build the packages. If you require pre-built packages you should wait for the announcement of the full release package set becoming available. FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE can also be purchased on CD-ROM or DVD from several vendors. One of the vendors that will be offering FreeBSD 9.1-based products is: regards Johan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 19:37:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9574FC4 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x229.google.com (mail-ie0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90315EBF for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 13so1065348iea.14 for ; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:37:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pc9prezbodIydj2keBuex6omdxvd0RVWujHzCBo5Bms=; b=eGVlydkyqnePfrBzUC/jCYSH/AkasR+tN0ZcdEKzVR81OaR5OaAzpFrC7Jlghvmc+z QFh3a9pgMynWkCRadA9uyb53dRtcjjZxObJlaJrpV6YXc+zB+/pZ1WDVHvvNo8tHAfPd JOfvH60qBztUUQEt/Xiioof7GIeXUO11boAexiGS1N+pNkq3G/cAgO2/eojy2lz6UpAv G99ecJXpQdd6IeHOy5yT4SHG7dtqFLbQ6Xs4B5gvWeOIPlwI01p4MvOJOrhugtyQoM8Z oFW3Qme4LPaF88JFbTG3AQ6dLU/UPgIkf63UvOPSN8MEqc/X1yDX3j7lnwcRNw64YSxO k7qQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.41.167 with SMTP id g7mr15417006igl.47.1362685069263; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:37:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.19.199 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:37:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <82E7A4A3-B65D-4ECA-BEF4-FD67445AF1B2@fisglobal.com> References: <82E7A4A3-B65D-4ECA-BEF4-FD67445AF1B2@fisglobal.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:37:48 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _DnpbK86mBpYrqtT5wSOoaWkoOU Message-ID: Subject: Re: building crunchgen fails From: Rick Miller To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 19:37:49 -0000 Hi All, In the thread below, my custom boot_crunch.conf works in releng/8, but fails in stable/8. Here is the failure message: cc -static -o boot_crunch boot_crunch.o hostname.lo pwd.lo rm.lo sh.lo ls.lo test.lo cat.lo df.lo sleep.lo camcontrol.lo dhclient.lo fsck_ffs.lo ifconfig.lo mount_nfs.lo newfs.lo route.lo rtsol.lo tunefs.lo kenv.lo sysctl.lo mdmfs.lo mdconfig.lo mount.lo dmesg.lo fdisk.lo bsdlabel.lo uname.lo cpio.lo find.lo minigzip.lo sed.lo awk.lo fetch.lo arp.lo sysinstall.lo usbconfig.lo grep.lo -ll -ledit -lfetch -lmd -lcrypt -lftpio -lz -lnetgraph -ldialog -lncurses -lcam -lsbuf -lutil -ldisk -lufs -ldevinfo -lkvm -lgeom -lbsdxml -larchive -lbz2 -lusb -lgnuregex -llzma -lssl -lcrypto -ljail -lm camcontrol.lo(.text+0x13fe): In function `mode_list': : undefined reference to `mode_sense' camcontrol.lo(.text+0x1e93): In function `mode_edit': : undefined reference to `mode_sense' camcontrol.lo(.text+0x1ee7): In function `mode_edit': : undefined reference to `mode_sense' camcontrol.lo(.text+0x1f6a): In function `mode_edit': : undefined reference to `mode_sense' camcontrol.lo(.text+0x209e): In function `mode_edit': : undefined reference to `mode_sense' camcontrol.lo(.text+0x2118): In function `mode_edit': : undefined reference to `mode_select' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/release/boot_crunch. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release. + umount /dev *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release. I attempted my custom boot_crunch.conf as well as the default. Both fail with the same error. My custom boot_crunch.conf is @ http://pastebin.com/jfcJKb08 Note the "special" line included as Devin recommends the thread below. mode_sense and mode_select appear to be defined (but I am far from proficient with C to declare with any authority what the problem might be. I'm hoping someone could help me understand and correct the problem. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Devin Teske w= rote: > > On Jan 23, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Rick Miller wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> When executing crunchgen -o boot_crunch.conf && make -f boot_crunch.mk >> I get the following error: >> >> cc -static -o boot_crunch boot_crunch.o hostname.lo pwd.lo rm.lo sh.lo >> ls.lo test.lo cat.lo df.lo sleep.lo camcontrol.lo dhclient.lo >> fsck_ffs.lo ifconfig.lo mount_nfs.lo newfs.lo route.lo rtsol.lo >> tunefs.lo kenv.lo sysctl.lo mdmfs.lo dmesg.lo fdisk.lo bsdlabel.lo >> uname.lo cpio.lo find.lo minigzip.lo sed.lo awk.lo fetch.lo arp.lo >> sysinstall.lo usbconfig.lo grep.lo -lcam -lsbuf -lutil -ll -ledit >> -lfetch -lmd -lcrypt -lftpio -lz -lnetgraph -ldialog -lncurses -ldisk >> -lufs -ldevinfo -lkvm -lgeom -lbsdxml -larchive -lbz2 -lusb -lgnuregex >> -llzma -lssl -lcrypto -ljail -lm >> camcontrol.lo(.text+0x730b): In function `main': >> : undefined reference to `mode_edit' >> camcontrol.lo(.text+0x73fa): In function `main': >> : undefined reference to `mode_list' >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /tmp/crunchtmp. >> >> I understand that there may need to be some shuffling of the libraries >> in the boot_crunch.conf, but I've done that to no avail. Wondering if >> anyone else may be able to shed some light on this... >> >> The boot_crunch.conf can be viewed at http://pastebin.com/ZwVPQn3h >> > > According to the Makefile, if RELEASE_CRUNCH is defined, then modeedit.o = object is omitted (causing your undefined references). > > I perceive the long-term real solution would be to patch camcontrol.c (an= d pedantically camcontrol.h) to not use mode_edit()/mode_list() when RELEAS= E_CRUNCH is defined. > > However, you should be able to get through your problem by adjusting your= boot_crunch.conf slightly: > > Try http://pastebin.com/Ge6UCZEZ > > The difference being: > > --- boot_crunch.conf.orig 2013-01-03 16:29:20.000000000 -0800 > +++ boot_crunch.conf 2013-01-03 16:29:13.000000000 -0800 > @@ -17,6 +17,7 @@ > > srcdirs /usr/src/sbin > progs camcontrol > +special camcontrol objs camcontrol.o modeedit.o util.o > progs dhclient > progs fsck_ffs > progs ifconfig > > -- > Devin > > _____________ > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confident= ial. 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Thank you. --=20 Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 19:53:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19273506; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris.universe@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x232.google.com (mail-ob0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83B8F3C; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id wd20so670928obb.23 for ; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:53:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=LJ67bUQ05iaUtqgPRD9ZV7jXpxvNAzMNY0bJAWumHrI=; b=lfHx6KSHvOgPNuwybOLGw/wZsY6+aF72mQe70XeNaRHVQ3MglwXnxgUSC/CLNlmJM0 77YIaL5DagKDZ0x9BFxs2lYfjuyFdDfprY1VkH7sDgaxgOxnFGZEydPbQn+zEQcZy+/V YOdhwjEVKqTJomjjFUBOQeRZauU3JcSNVWUQJJbt0pPzlXksxbUnajM577AMMXj+I24f BxFcakkbYQ4rLzRxSp/hF1mhvDnXqjheDxzjXN0pXmPqKRZlPG5g2IgSOgTHAvfca8Fg HPYScvhJNZbd5bB3V5M3el99xDKK5hqfJTdsqCmpCiQJVOCUiXO3TN9ZTcBmq+UGfYXO veBg== X-Received: by 10.182.221.105 with SMTP id qd9mr26504564obc.97.1362685986370; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcmac.dev.art ([70.116.76.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ri1sm2518864obc.12.2013.03.07.11.53.04 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:53:05 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: Zlib version in FreeBSD - 3 releases behind? From: Kris Sridhar In-Reply-To: <20130306232750.GA25598@saturn> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:53:03 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6D7C4F7F-B392-49E8-83A6-ACC61803E378@gmail.com> References: <20130305161158.GB9376@saturn> <5136F918.70105@qeng-ho.org> <20130306232750.GA25598@saturn> To: Giorgos Keramidas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: Arthur Chance , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 19:53:07 -0000 Gentlemen, The library (/lib/libz.so.6) in FreeBSD 9.1R does seem to have Zlib = 1.2.4 based on the complaints from the following at least: libarchive.so.* libssh.so.* grep gzip I've provided objdump -p output from my machine: ---------------------------------------------------------------- fBSD9# objdump -p libz.so.6 libz.so.6: file format elf32-i386-freebsd Program Header: LOAD off 0x00000000 vaddr 0x00000000 paddr 0x00000000 align 2**12 filesz 0x000124c4 memsz 0x000124c4 flags r-x LOAD off 0x000124c4 vaddr 0x000134c4 paddr 0x000134c4 align 2**12 filesz 0x000002e0 memsz 0x000002e4 flags rw- DYNAMIC off 0x00012588 vaddr 0x00013588 paddr 0x00013588 align 2**2 filesz 0x000000d8 memsz 0x000000d8 flags rw- STACK off 0x00000000 vaddr 0x00000000 paddr 0x00000000 align 2**2 filesz 0x00000000 memsz 0x00000000 flags rw- Dynamic Section: NEEDED libc.so.7 SONAME libz.so.6 INIT 0x13f0 FINI 0xe1b4 HASH 0xb4 STRTAB 0xaec SYMTAB 0x3fc STRSZ 0x49f SYMENT 0x10 PLTGOT 0x1367c PLTRELSZ 0x1b0 PLTREL 0x11 JMPREL 0x1240 REL 0x1130 RELSZ 0x110 RELENT 0x8 VERDEF 0x106c VERDEFNUM 0x5 VERNEED 0x1110 VERNEEDNUM 0x1 VERSYM 0xf8c RELCOUNT 0x1e Version definitions: 1 0x01 0x09d5f4e6 libz.so.6 2 0x00 0x07e5cf30 ZLIB_1.2.4.0 3 0x00 0x053ecdd0 ZLIBprivate_1.0 ZLIB_1.2.4.0=20 4 0x00 0x07e5c230 ZLIB_1.2.7.0 ZLIB_1.2.4.0=20 5 0x00 0x077a28b2 FBSD_1.2 ZLIB_1.2.4.0=20 Version References: required from libc.so.7: 0x077a28b0 0x00 06 FBSD_1.0 fBSD9# uname -r 9.1-RELEASE ---------------------------------------------------------------- If Zlib 1.2.7 were installed independently from tar.gz downloaded from = zlib.net site, it produces, /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1.2.7 which is different from /lib/libz.so.6 of = course. But this installs a /usr/local/include/zlib.h that is identical to = /usr/src/lib/libz/zlib.h as well as /usr/include/zlib.h The complaint mentioned before from dependent objects like libarchive = that the "/lib/libz.so.6 containing ZLIB_1_2_4 is missing" results if = one removes /lib/libz.so.6 and replaces with a symlink to the new = version like: /lib/libz.so.6 --> /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1.2.7 Given the version definitions from the objdump -p of the original = /lib/libz.so.6 that was installed as part of a fresh, clean install of = FreeBSD 9.1R, as provided above, any thoughts on the Zlib version = actually baked into the release please? Thanks. Kris On Mar 6, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Giorgos Keramidas = wrote: > On 2013-03-06 08:06, Arthur Chance wrote: >> On 03/05/13 16:12, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> On 2013-03-04 07:28, KrisUniverse wrote: >>>> The Zlib baked into FreeBSD is Zlib 1.2.4 even on 9.1R. >>>>=20 >>>> However, Zlib has gone to 1.2.7 sometime ago after stepping through >>>> 1.2.5, 1.2.6 and 1.2.7 with bug fixes. >>>>=20 >>>> Is there any reason for not using Zlib 1.2.7? >>>=20 >>> I don't have a 9.1-RELEASE system nearby, but I think zlib 1.2.7 = _should_ >>> already be there... Are you sure it's still an old version? >>=20 >> On my machine: >>=20 >> # uname -r >> 9.1-RELEASE >>=20 >> [It's actually -p1 but I've not bothered replacing the kernel as the >> problems were in user space.] >>=20 >> # grep 'define ZLIB_VERSION' /usr/src/lib/libz/zlib.h >> #define ZLIB_VERSION "1.2.7" >=20 > That's what I'd expect. Thanks :) >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 20:36:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCA6126 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Gabor@Zahemszky.HU) Received: from smarthost02.digicable.hu (smarthost02.digicable.hu [94.21.128.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0309E1A2 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [92.249.128.189] (helo=relay01.digicable.hu) by smarthost02.digicable.hu with esmtp id 1UDh4p-0000Og-11 for ; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 21:06:07 +0100 Received: from [94.21.9.52] (helo=Picasso.Zahemszky.HU) by relay01.digicable.hu with esmtpa id 1UDh4o-0000aR-S2 for ; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 21:06:06 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:06:06 +0100 From: Zahemszky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?G=E1bor?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to mount enhanced-CD on 9.1R? Message-ID: <20130307210606.7a11c9d2@Picasso.Zahemszky.HU> Organization: Zahemszky Bt. X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original: 94.21.9.52 X-Original: 92.249.128.189 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:36:59 -0000 Hi! I think I've found a regression on 9.1R. I used to mount some of Oxford University Press's New English File CD-ROM on 9.0. These CD-s are actually enhanced CDs with some audio tracks, and a data track at the end. Actually, I cannot mount them on 9.1. Neither on Amd64 nor on i386. Neither with a SCSI DVD-drive, nor with ATAPI drives. On 9.0, I need only to 'mount -r -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /mnt' - on 9.1 it doesn't work. And doesn't work with the -s option of mount_cdrom - I can get the start of the data track with either cdcontrol info or with cdda2wav -info-only. They give me the same nubmber as the sector number of the data track, but mount_cdrom doesn't work with it. Actually, I've sent bug report about it, but there weren't any reaction: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dmisc/176262 Nye, G=E1bor --=20 #!/bin/ksh # # See my GPG key at http://www.Zahemszky.HU # Z=3D'21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!'; IFS=3D' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ '; set -- $Z;for i;{ [[ $i =3D ? ]]&&print $i&&break; [[ $i =3D ??? ]]&&j=3D$i&&i=3D${i%?}; typeset -i40 i=3D8#$i;print -n ${i#???}; [[ "$j" =3D ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=3D;typeset +i i;}; IFS=3D' 0123456789 ';set -- $Z;for i;{ [[ $i =3D , ]]&&i=3D2; [[ $i =3D ?? ]]||typeset -l i;j=3D"$j $i";typeset +l i;};print "$j" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 20:48:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B5D749 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 236F420F for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 20:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12053 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2013 20:48:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2013 20:48:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=PW/C0ebRgVQj07v9IwTevsEH9rQgUA5+1nhC0DWsJw8=; b=P1X5hrnFlp07cqMX7BKhO7hkCj11veJlNoey4uUnY5gQz5HKbiMD7qT68vLrDOt9DG5s57Xsobx9Pjvl4R/+ClI46ozk0by/qRWtIS8Sgr0SgTZcLkne8gnA0aNmFPrj; Received: from [24.9.112.144] (port=62038 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UDhk5-0003TI-J1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 13:48:45 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:48:45 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fetchmail/sendmail: Domain of sender address does not exist Message-ID: <20130307204845.GA2466@glaze.hydra> References: <201303070940.r279elHS001082@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201303070940.r279elHS001082@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.112.144 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:48:47 -0000 On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 09:40:47AM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I'm running sendmail, and using fetchmail to fetch > my mail from the university IMAP server. > > I sometimes see fetchmail complain: > > fetchmail: SMTP error: 553 5.1.8 ... Domain of sender address admin@system.mail does not exist > > And this is doubled in /var/log/maillog: > > sm-mta[14642]: r270BO3L014642: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=, relay=localhost [127.0. > 0.1], reject=553 5.1.8 ... Domain of sender address admin@system.mail does not exist > > How do I set fetchmail and sendmail to fetch > such emails? You might want to try out the mail/fdm port instead of fetchmail. I have found fetchmail to be obtuse and cantankerous; I stopped using it a long time ago. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 21:00:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9BEA19 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:00:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@x.it.okstate.edu) Received: from x.it.okstate.edu (x.it.okstate.edu [139.78.2.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6152290 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x.it.okstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x.it.okstate.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r27KbWsE004345 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:37:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@x.it.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201303072037.r27KbWsE004345@x.it.okstate.edu> From: Martin McCormick cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Revisiting Traceroute Through ipfw FreeBSD9.x Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 14:37:32 -0600 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 21:00:26 -0000 I immediately found several plausible examples of what to put in the firewall rules file and the following rules were set just after the local loopback address: ip="139.78.2.13" setup_loopback # Allow traceroute to function, but not to get in. ${fwcmd} add unreach port udp from any to ${ip} 33435-33524 # Allow some inbound icmps - echo reply, dest unreach, source quench, # echo, ttl exceeded. ${fwcmd} add allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 0,3,4,8,11 My thanks to previous posters for these rules. I still, however only get *traceroute: sendto: Permission denied traceroute: wrote 192.168.1.125 52 chars, ret=-1 I also did try: sysctl net.inet.udp.blackhole=0 then 1 and even 2 with no change. What else should I look at? The firewall rules are otherwise working as they should. Thank you. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 21:42:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4E15C8 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suseuser04@lajt.hu) Received: from mailout3.bwave.pl (mailout3.bwave.pl [37.233.100.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3537652 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=drone-mailout3) by mailout3.bwave.pl with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UDiaO-0003eP-Pe for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 22:42:48 +0100 Received: from [10.2.1.186] by drone-mailout3 with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UDiaO-0003eM-L8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 22:42:48 +0100 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_How_to_connect_to_VPN?= From: =?UTF-8?Q?Istvan_Gabor?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <584e1036.41c74522.513909d5.97cb8@lajt.hu> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 22:42:45 +0100 X-Originator: 92.249.232.165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 21:42:51 -0000 2013.=20m=C3=A1rcius=205.=2023:44=20napon=20=D0=9B=D1=8E=D0=B1=D0=BE=D0=BC= =D0=B8=D1=80=20=D0=93=D1=80=D0=B8=D0=B3=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=20=20=C3=ADrta: >=20I=20have=20been=20trying=20to=20find=20a=20way=20to=20connect=20to=20= a=20PPTP=20or=20L2TP=20VPN=20for=20over >=20a=20year=20now.=20There=20is=20no=20GUI=20client=20that=20I=20know=20= of=20and=20any=20text >=20configuration=20I=20try=20with=20pptpclient=20fails. >=20 >=20How=20can=20I=20connect=20to=20a=20VPN,=20the=20fast=20way=20as=20in=20= Windows,=20OS=20X=20and=20GNU/Linux. >=20I=20have=20the=20following=20information=20(no=20internal=20IP's=20or= =20ranges=20or=20NAT): >=20 >=20Gateway=20-=20I=20have=20the=20URL=20to=20connect=20to,=20I=20suppose= =20I=20can=20map=20it=20to=20IP >=20Username >=20Password >=20MSCHAP >=20MSCHAPv2 >=20Use=20point-to-point=20encryption=20(MPPE) >=20Allow=20BSD=20data=20compression >=20Allow=20deflate=20data=20compression >=20Use=20TCP=20header=20compression >=20 >=20 >=20How=20can=20I=20connect=20to=20the=20VPN=20with=20just=20this=20infor= mation=20above?=20Everything=20I >=20find=20requires=20internal=20IP's,=20ranges,=20NAT=20and=20other=20th= ings=20making=20a=205=20second >=20gui=20configuration=20take=20months.=20The=20VPN=20server=20supports=20= PPTP=20and=20L2TP=20as >=20mentioned.=20Any=20advice=20on=20how=20I=20can=20connect=20will=20be=20= helpful. >=20 >=20 Hello: I=20too=20had=20problems=20with=20vpn=20in=20FreeBSD=209.0=20RELEASE. I=20don't=20know=20specifically=20about=20PPTP=20or=20L2TP,=20but=20there= =20is vpn=20over=20ipsec.=20Fot=20that=20you=20need=20to=20customize=20and=20re= build your=20kernel. FreeBSD=20handbook=20says: To=20add=20IPsec=20support=20to=20your=20kernel,=20add=20the=20following=20= options=20to=20your kernel=20configuration=20file: options=20=20=20IPSEC=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20#IP=20security device=20=20=20=20crypto see: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ipsec.html After=20this=20install=20shrew=20vpn=20client. Once=20more,=20I=20don't=20know=20whether=20this=20is=20relevant=20in=20a= ny=20way=20in your=20case=20but=20that's=20how=20I=20solved=20vpn=20to=20cisco=20server= =20earlier. Istvan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 21:45:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398537E4 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from suseuser04@lajt.hu) Received: from mailout3.bwave.pl (mailout3.bwave.pl [37.233.100.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE75967B for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=drone-mailout3) by mailout3.bwave.pl with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UDicW-0003rH-QZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 22:45:00 +0100 Received: from [10.2.1.187] by drone-mailout3 with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UDicW-0003rE-4T for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 22:45:00 +0100 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?kde3_maintainer_contact?= From: =?UTF-8?Q?Istvan_Gabor?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <79cf3d30.15cc5d12.51390a52.78c4b@lajt.hu> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 22:44:50 +0100 X-Originator: 92.249.232.165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 21:45:02 -0000 Hello: I=20have=20a=20few=20specific=20questions=20regarding=20kde3=20in=20freeb= sd. As=20there=20is=20no=20freebsd=20kde3=20list=20I=20would=20like=20to=20as= k=20my=20questions directly=20from=20port=20maintainer(s).=20Do=20you=20know=20how=20can=20I= =20contact them? Thanks, Istvan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 21:51:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96537BB5; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B526C9; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:51:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C19C33C1D; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 16:51:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 8D33F3984A; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 16:51:47 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Istvan Gabor Subject: Re: kde3 maintainer contact References: <79cf3d30.15cc5d12.51390a52.78c4b@lajt.hu> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 16:51:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: <79cf3d30.15cc5d12.51390a52.78c4b@lajt.hu> (Istvan Gabor's message of "Thu, 07 Mar 2013 22:44:50 +0100") Message-ID: <44zjye7ua4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: kde@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 21:51:59 -0000 Istvan Gabor writes: > I have a few specific questions regarding kde3 in freebsd. > As there is no freebsd kde3 list I would like to ask my questions > directly from port maintainer(s). Do you know how can I contact > them? There isn't one. There is a kde@freebsd.org mailing list, but it's listed as maintaining kde4, not kde3. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 21:56:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5004AD0D for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BEC6F1 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:55:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UDin9-0002EY-6b; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 21:55:59 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UDin8-0003qQ-Ln; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 21:55:58 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r27Ltwo2002812; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:55:58 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r27Ltvuq002811; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:55:57 GMT (envelope-from mexas) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:55:57 GMT From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201303072155.r27Ltvuq002811@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, perrin@apotheon.com Subject: Re: fetchmail/sendmail: Domain of sender address does not exist In-Reply-To: <20130307204845.GA2466@glaze.hydra> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 21:56:00 -0000 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:48:45 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fetchmail/sendmail: Domain of sender address does not exist On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 09:40:47AM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I'm running sendmail, and using fetchmail to fetch > my mail from the university IMAP server. > > I sometimes see fetchmail complain: > > fetchmail: SMTP error: 553 5.1.8 ... Domain of sender address admin@system.mail does not exist > > And this is doubled in /var/log/maillog: > > sm-mta[14642]: r270BO3L014642: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=, relay=localhost [127.0. > 0.1], reject=553 5.1.8 ... Domain of sender address admin@system.mail does not exist > > How do I set fetchmail and sendmail to fetch > such emails? You might want to try out the mail/fdm port instead of fetchmail. I have found fetchmail to be obtuse and cantankerous; I stopped using it a long time ago. No, I think fetchmail's great! And Matthias already helped me sort it out. Thanks for the advice anyway. Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 7 22:13:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CF99D for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 22:13:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from eris.bzerk.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:980:18dd:1:192:168:179:45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CD4784 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 22:13:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hackbook.wlan (ei.bzerk.org [82.95.223.12]) (authenticated bits=0) by eris.bzerk.org (8.14.6/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r27MCuNO027563 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Mar 2013 22:12:57 GMT (envelope-from bulk@bzerk.org) Subject: Re: no 9.1-release packages? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ruben de Groot In-Reply-To: <5138B92F.4060800@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 23:12:56 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <28B0C7E5-4BD0-451E-9C4A-DD0A5EBA43E7@bzerk.org> References: <20130307155253.GA24876@eris.bzerk.org> <5138B92F.4060800@gmail.com> To: Johan Hendriks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eris.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (eris.bzerk.org [192.168.179.45]); Thu, 07 Mar 2013 22:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 22:13:03 -0000 On 7 mrt 2013, at 16:58, Johan Hendriks wrote: > Ruben de Groot schreef: >> Hi, >>=20 >> I just rented a 9.1-release VPS and was trying to install some = packages. >> This however does not work as there is no directory = "packages-9.1-release" on the ftp server (ftp.freebsd.org). Why is this? > There was a security issue and therefor there are no packages for 9.1 >=20 >=20 > Due to the security incident reported here: >=20 > http://www.FreeBSD.org/news/2012-compromise.html >=20 > only the small third-party package set on the DVD image is available = at this time for users who require pre-built packages (just GNOME and = KDE windowing systems). The FreeBSD Project's package building = infrastructure is undergoing a complete review and redesign. At this = time we can not commit to a date the full release package set will = become available. A separate announcement will be made when that becomes = available. If you wish to install 9.1-RELEASE now you can build your own = packages using portsnap(8) to obtain an up to date ports tree and then = build the packages. If you require pre-built packages you should wait = for the announcement of the full release package set becoming available. >=20 > FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE can also be purchased on CD-ROM or DVD from = several vendors. One of the vendors that will be offering FreeBSD = 9.1-based products is: Thanks for the info Johan. I was aware of the compromise, just not of it = still affecting the package building for 9.1 release. No problem, there's no absolute requirement for pre-build packages here, = so I installed some tools from packages-9-stable by setting PACKAGESITE = and building the rest now from ports. cheers, Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 8 07:38:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEAFB96 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 07:38:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37664E03 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 07:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-109-47.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.109.47]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E8825548; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:38:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r287cNIG002088; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:38:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:38:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk Subject: Re: fetchmail/sendmail: Domain of sender address does not exist Message-Id: <20130308083823.58c61486.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201303072155.r27Ltvuq002811@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20130307204845.GA2466@glaze.hydra> <201303072155.r27Ltvuq002811@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 07:38:21 -0000 On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:55:57 GMT, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > And Matthias already helped me sort it out. Could you write to the list how you solved the problem? I think it would be interesting to those running into similar problems. I remember that in the end, my "clever" solution involved logging into the ugly webmailer of my ISP and deleting the few offending messages manually. It should be easier than that. :-) Thanks in advance. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 8 08:49:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F343B8; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE071A4; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r288n5gT006809; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 08:49:05 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <5139A601.8040509@qeng-ho.org> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 08:49:05 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130305 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Sridhar Subject: Re: Zlib version in FreeBSD - 3 releases behind? References: <20130305161158.GB9376@saturn> <5136F918.70105@qeng-ho.org> <20130306232750.GA25598@saturn> <6D7C4F7F-B392-49E8-83A6-ACC61803E378@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6D7C4F7F-B392-49E8-83A6-ACC61803E378@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 08:49:14 -0000 On 03/07/13 19:53, Kris Sridhar wrote: > Gentlemen, > > The library (/lib/libz.so.6) in FreeBSD 9.1R does seem to have Zlib 1.2.4 based on the complaints from the following at least: > > libarchive.so.* > libssh.so.* > grep > gzip > > I've provided objdump -p output from my machine: > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > fBSD9# objdump -p libz.so.6 > > libz.so.6: file format elf32-i386-freebsd > > Program Header: > LOAD off 0x00000000 vaddr 0x00000000 paddr 0x00000000 align 2**12 > filesz 0x000124c4 memsz 0x000124c4 flags r-x > LOAD off 0x000124c4 vaddr 0x000134c4 paddr 0x000134c4 align 2**12 > filesz 0x000002e0 memsz 0x000002e4 flags rw- > DYNAMIC off 0x00012588 vaddr 0x00013588 paddr 0x00013588 align 2**2 > filesz 0x000000d8 memsz 0x000000d8 flags rw- > STACK off 0x00000000 vaddr 0x00000000 paddr 0x00000000 align 2**2 > filesz 0x00000000 memsz 0x00000000 flags rw- > > Dynamic Section: > NEEDED libc.so.7 > SONAME libz.so.6 > INIT 0x13f0 > FINI 0xe1b4 > HASH 0xb4 > STRTAB 0xaec > SYMTAB 0x3fc > STRSZ 0x49f > SYMENT 0x10 > PLTGOT 0x1367c > PLTRELSZ 0x1b0 > PLTREL 0x11 > JMPREL 0x1240 > REL 0x1130 > RELSZ 0x110 > RELENT 0x8 > VERDEF 0x106c > VERDEFNUM 0x5 > VERNEED 0x1110 > VERNEEDNUM 0x1 > VERSYM 0xf8c > RELCOUNT 0x1e > > Version definitions: > 1 0x01 0x09d5f4e6 libz.so.6 > 2 0x00 0x07e5cf30 ZLIB_1.2.4.0 > 3 0x00 0x053ecdd0 ZLIBprivate_1.0 > ZLIB_1.2.4.0 > 4 0x00 0x07e5c230 ZLIB_1.2.7.0 > ZLIB_1.2.4.0 > 5 0x00 0x077a28b2 FBSD_1.2 > ZLIB_1.2.4.0 > > Version References: > required from libc.so.7: > 0x077a28b0 0x00 06 FBSD_1.0 > > fBSD9# uname -r > 9.1-RELEASE > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > If Zlib 1.2.7 were installed independently from tar.gz downloaded from zlib.net site, it produces, > /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1.2.7 which is different from /lib/libz.so.6 of course. > But this installs a /usr/local/include/zlib.h that is identical to /usr/src/lib/libz/zlib.h as well as /usr/include/zlib.h > > The complaint mentioned before from dependent objects like libarchive that the "/lib/libz.so.6 containing ZLIB_1_2_4 is missing" results if one removes /lib/libz.so.6 and replaces with a symlink to the new version like: > /lib/libz.so.6 --> /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1.2.7 > > Given the version definitions from the objdump -p of the original /lib/libz.so.6 that was installed as part of a fresh, clean install of FreeBSD 9.1R, as provided above, any thoughts on the Zlib version actually baked into the release please? > > Thanks. > Kris I note that /usr/src/lib/libz/ChangeLog starts ChangeLog file for zlib Changes in 1.2.7 (2 May 2012) and the Symbol.map file has four sections, two of which are labelled ZLIB_1.2.7.0 and ZLIB_1.2.4.0. This is getting beyond my experience as I'm very rusty on library handling tools, a core developer is what you need. However, a wild guess would be that it supports (or is intended to support) both 1.2.4 and 1.2.7 features. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 8 09:06:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B04456 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A196225C for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:06:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from irix.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.39] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UDtFL-0002KH-3u; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:05:59 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UDtFK-0000fj-To; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:05:46 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r2895kdQ011088; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:05:46 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r2895kqV011087; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:05:46 GMT (envelope-from mexas) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:05:46 GMT From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201303080905.r2895kqV011087@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd@edvax.de Subject: Re: fetchmail/sendmail: Domain of sender address does not exist In-Reply-To: <20130308083823.58c61486.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Spam-Score: -3.9 X-Spam-Level: --- Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:06:07 -0000 From freebsd@edvax.de Fri Mar 8 07:50:06 2013 On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:55:57 GMT, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > And Matthias already helped me sort it out. Could you write to the list how you solved the problem? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2013-March/081919.html Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 8 15:00:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D1C633; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 15:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from makc@issp.ac.ru) Received: from mail.issp.ac.ru (mail.issp.ac.ru [77.236.34.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E698CC; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 15:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mercury.ph.man.ac.uk [130.88.75.175:15667] (HELO/EHLO mercury.ph.man.ac.uk, authenticated with LOGIN) by mail.issp.ac.ru with ESMTP/inet id r28F0O8b045188 (using TLSv1/SSLv3, with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256 bits), verified NO) Fri, 8 Mar 2013 19:00:25 +0400 (MSK) From: Max Brazhnikov To: kde-freebsd@kde.org Subject: Re: [kde-freebsd] kde3 maintainer contact Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:01:24 +0000 Message-ID: <2120746.59j0UpAM7d@mercury.ph.man.ac.uk> User-Agent: KMail/4.9.5 (FreeBSD/9.1-STABLE; KDE/4.10.1; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <44zjye7ua4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <79cf3d30.15cc5d12.51390a52.78c4b@lajt.hu> <44zjye7ua4.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Istvan Gabor , Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kde@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:00:29 -0000 On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 16:51:47 -0500 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Istvan Gabor writes: > > > I have a few specific questions regarding kde3 in freebsd. > > As there is no freebsd kde3 list I would like to ask my questions > > directly from port maintainer(s). Do you know how can I contact > > them? > > There isn't one. There is a kde@freebsd.org mailing list, but it's > listed as maintaining kde4, not kde3. KDE 3 ports are not maintained. You can use general ports@ mailist, CCing to kde@freebsd.org won't hurt, but not expect much response. Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 8 16:27:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22152C5; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 16:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris.universe@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com (mail-oa0-f51.google.com [209.85.219.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8581611B; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 16:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id h2so2165179oag.38 for ; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 08:27:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=LJ67bUQ05iaUtqgPRD9ZV7jXpxvNAzMNY0bJAWumHrI=; b=uBLfWaZF4XBbswqlF2YE+Wr9J9wYwat/N7l7kvRR5RiIluUG8Ownpul9pAVxdS4vyz SB7pjve/CvVFGazP4CK8oIW26SLCgyxix74Dbkzl4shsXaRm/UiukINmLgfyPwmBgqmL yZ2R6KAPiCA982wpeIq1ajrQPyDKWahhnC4XhnQ+sGqVpajIvv9M49KfZ2bZmUDBphPC GBK0unrmZkPxCeIoSqcHJebPkELeK/wArSSTzZY3wpi5Aa4nehMb1anFBYIuVojJUWWq kpHot1uWtlm0VqiEXH9G/6dM/Fz8aaJeiT/OTpEqC8tpLrdCz+WdFw3slv47ncR2jy2h BWWA== X-Received: by 10.60.22.34 with SMTP id a2mr1944203oef.97.1362760069712; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 08:27:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcmac.dev.art ([70.116.76.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ad19sm6271730oec.0.2013.03.08.08.27.48 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Mar 2013 08:27:48 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: Zlib version in FreeBSD - 3 releases behind? From: Kris Sridhar In-Reply-To: <20130306232750.GA25598@saturn> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:53:03 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6D7C4F7F-B392-49E8-83A6-ACC61803E378@gmail.com> References: <20130305161158.GB9376@saturn> <5136F918.70105@qeng-ho.org> <20130306232750.GA25598@saturn> To: Giorgos Keramidas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: Arthur Chance , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 16:27:51 -0000 Gentlemen, The library (/lib/libz.so.6) in FreeBSD 9.1R does seem to have Zlib = 1.2.4 based on the complaints from the following at least: libarchive.so.* libssh.so.* grep gzip I've provided objdump -p output from my machine: ---------------------------------------------------------------- fBSD9# objdump -p libz.so.6 libz.so.6: file format elf32-i386-freebsd Program Header: LOAD off 0x00000000 vaddr 0x00000000 paddr 0x00000000 align 2**12 filesz 0x000124c4 memsz 0x000124c4 flags r-x LOAD off 0x000124c4 vaddr 0x000134c4 paddr 0x000134c4 align 2**12 filesz 0x000002e0 memsz 0x000002e4 flags rw- DYNAMIC off 0x00012588 vaddr 0x00013588 paddr 0x00013588 align 2**2 filesz 0x000000d8 memsz 0x000000d8 flags rw- STACK off 0x00000000 vaddr 0x00000000 paddr 0x00000000 align 2**2 filesz 0x00000000 memsz 0x00000000 flags rw- Dynamic Section: NEEDED libc.so.7 SONAME libz.so.6 INIT 0x13f0 FINI 0xe1b4 HASH 0xb4 STRTAB 0xaec SYMTAB 0x3fc STRSZ 0x49f SYMENT 0x10 PLTGOT 0x1367c PLTRELSZ 0x1b0 PLTREL 0x11 JMPREL 0x1240 REL 0x1130 RELSZ 0x110 RELENT 0x8 VERDEF 0x106c VERDEFNUM 0x5 VERNEED 0x1110 VERNEEDNUM 0x1 VERSYM 0xf8c RELCOUNT 0x1e Version definitions: 1 0x01 0x09d5f4e6 libz.so.6 2 0x00 0x07e5cf30 ZLIB_1.2.4.0 3 0x00 0x053ecdd0 ZLIBprivate_1.0 ZLIB_1.2.4.0=20 4 0x00 0x07e5c230 ZLIB_1.2.7.0 ZLIB_1.2.4.0=20 5 0x00 0x077a28b2 FBSD_1.2 ZLIB_1.2.4.0=20 Version References: required from libc.so.7: 0x077a28b0 0x00 06 FBSD_1.0 fBSD9# uname -r 9.1-RELEASE ---------------------------------------------------------------- If Zlib 1.2.7 were installed independently from tar.gz downloaded from = zlib.net site, it produces, /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1.2.7 which is different from /lib/libz.so.6 of = course. But this installs a /usr/local/include/zlib.h that is identical to = /usr/src/lib/libz/zlib.h as well as /usr/include/zlib.h The complaint mentioned before from dependent objects like libarchive = that the "/lib/libz.so.6 containing ZLIB_1_2_4 is missing" results if = one removes /lib/libz.so.6 and replaces with a symlink to the new = version like: /lib/libz.so.6 --> /usr/local/lib/libz.so.1.2.7 Given the version definitions from the objdump -p of the original = /lib/libz.so.6 that was installed as part of a fresh, clean install of = FreeBSD 9.1R, as provided above, any thoughts on the Zlib version = actually baked into the release please? Thanks. Kris On Mar 6, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Giorgos Keramidas = wrote: > On 2013-03-06 08:06, Arthur Chance wrote: >> On 03/05/13 16:12, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> On 2013-03-04 07:28, KrisUniverse wrote: >>>> The Zlib baked into FreeBSD is Zlib 1.2.4 even on 9.1R. >>>>=20 >>>> However, Zlib has gone to 1.2.7 sometime ago after stepping through >>>> 1.2.5, 1.2.6 and 1.2.7 with bug fixes. >>>>=20 >>>> Is there any reason for not using Zlib 1.2.7? >>>=20 >>> I don't have a 9.1-RELEASE system nearby, but I think zlib 1.2.7 = _should_ >>> already be there... Are you sure it's still an old version? >>=20 >> On my machine: >>=20 >> # uname -r >> 9.1-RELEASE >>=20 >> [It's actually -p1 but I've not bothered replacing the kernel as the >> problems were in user space.] >>=20 >> # grep 'define ZLIB_VERSION' /usr/src/lib/libz/zlib.h >> #define ZLIB_VERSION "1.2.7" >=20 > That's what I'd expect. Thanks :) >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 8 20:34:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D10B2E7 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 20:34:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5A7922 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 20:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (webmail.dweimer.local [192.168.5.1]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r28KYVCa087197 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 14:34:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 14:34:31 -0600 From: dweimer To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: FreeBSD Squid 3.2 Reverse Proxy with HTTPS Organization: dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Message-ID: <76f3b5bb87262230095c8b3c322aecb7@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 20:34:39 -0000 I am stuck in a kind of desperate situation, I have been managing several FreeBSD systems as forward proxy servers with Squid on them for 13 years, and a few with reverse proxies for around 4 years. But for the last few months, I have been struggling with HTTPS uploads failing on the reverse proxies. I have personally built and destroyed over 20 virtual machines, and spent countless hours on this. Every time duplicating the problem, no matter how basic I strip the process down, I have tried FreeBSD 8.3, 9.0, 9.1, with Squid 3.2.6, 3.2.7, 3.2.8, and a couple different versions of the Squid 3.1 port. Everything installs without errors, services all start, pages load all looks great, until you try to do a POST on HTTPS. I thought at first it was just when the size was over a certain amount, but that turned out to be a wrong assumption. I have a test scenario that can duplicate the problem with exact same results every time. In the end my test is just simple HTML form that submits a file to a PHP script that saves it. I have a directory of 7 .png image files that are screenshots from some documentation I wrote for our PC support desk. 3 of the files upload successfully, and 4 of them fail. Its the same 3 and 4 every time, I can't find any thing in common between that ones that succeed and fail. They will all work if you use http going to the same exact HTML form and PHP script. If I remove Squid and go directly to the Apache process using HTTPS all files upload fine. After a lot of debugging, and painstakingly reading very long Squid debugging logs. I found out that Squid appears to continue waiting for the end of the file after the client browser has stopped sending data, for almost 5 minutes, before just returning complete, and not actually submitting the file to the Apache process. If you actually stop the browser while its sitting there waiting for a response, the file gets submitted to Apache process and saves successfully. I have a couple existing production servers that are running 9.0, with Squid 3.1.21, that are working, but I am in desperate need of updating them to meet requirements. I have posted several messages to the Squid mailing list, received some initial suggestions that didn't get anywhere, but I haven't been able to get any more help. I am hoping to find someone else out there that is running FreeBSD with Squid in a Reverse proxy setup with HTTPS that has not ran into this issue and is willing to share configurations with me, so I can possibly find out what's wrong with my setup. Or if you have also ran into this issue, perhaps we can share notes and possibly find something to will make it possible to file a bug report somewhere. Even though I can reproduce this without fail none of my debugging output actually gives an error, it just doesn't behave correctly. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 00:01:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A461B690 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 00:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E0C110 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 00:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gamma.lan.locolomo.org (gamma.lan.locolomo.org [192.168.0.40]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F5241C0841 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 00:53:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <513A79F7.8030203@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 00:53:27 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130216 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: What is your favorite board for a micro system? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 00:01:03 -0000 Hi! What is your favorite mini/micro/nano/pico-itx platform for home projects? I currently run a home server on an Intel mini-itx board but was looking around for something fun to play with with the following specs: - mini-itx or smaller, low profile - fanless - low power 12V external PSU - 1 LAN, preferably 2 - 2 USB2/3 - Flash bootable, but with option for hdd boot - GPIO would be fun - hdmi out would be nice I have tried VIA boards but found they were flacky... Any suggestion regarding ARM vs Intel based? Thanks, Erik -- M: +34 666 334 818 T: +34 915 211 157 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 03:34:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8E4DBB for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 03:34:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.net [99.69.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB19914 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 03:34:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net (vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net [192.168.15.2]) (Authenticated sender: kitsune) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9C7503F692; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 21:24:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 21:23:08 -0600 From: "Zane C. B-H." To: Erik =?ISO-8859-1?Q?N=F8rgaard?= Subject: Re: What is your favorite board for a micro system? Message-ID: <20130308212308.0784bbfc@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> In-Reply-To: <513A79F7.8030203@locolomo.org> References: <513A79F7.8030203@locolomo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/iU7+X0zfLhdUMJblBf0COMe"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 03:34:07 -0000 --Sig_/iU7+X0zfLhdUMJblBf0COMe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 09 Mar 2013 00:53:27 +0100 Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > Hi! >=20 > What is your favorite mini/micro/nano/pico-itx platform for home > projects? >=20 > I currently run a home server on an Intel mini-itx board but was > looking around for something fun to play with with the following > specs: >=20 > - mini-itx or smaller, low profile > - fanless > - low power 12V external PSU > - 1 LAN, preferably 2 > - 2 USB2/3 > - Flash bootable, but with option for hdd boot > - GPIO would be fun > - hdmi out would be nice >=20 > I have tried VIA boards but found they were flacky... >=20 > Any suggestion regarding ARM vs Intel based? Can't think of any off hand in that small of form factor, but I strongly suggest looking to see what you can find running an Intel Atom. I've been very happy with those and their related chipsets so far for microATX boards. --Sig_/iU7+X0zfLhdUMJblBf0COMe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlE6qx8ACgkQqrJJy0yxYQDbWACbBEhdo8HqD/iEoV3oQ5ISGBQI Ln0An24NwGp5VLSBvIHjConU7dHoJXT8 =Ge+S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/iU7+X0zfLhdUMJblBf0COMe-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 04:43:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E461D505 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 04:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC405B0E for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 04:43:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (static-71-177-216-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.177.216.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r294hc2K062131 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Mar 2013 20:43:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: What is your favorite board for a micro system? From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <513A79F7.8030203@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 20:43:38 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0C236BF3-7BFB-41B7-B627-3D607818BAF5@lafn.org> References: <513A79F7.8030203@locolomo.org> To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 04:43:42 -0000 On 8 March 2013, at 15:53, Erik N=F8rgaard = wrote: > Hi! >=20 > What is your favorite mini/micro/nano/pico-itx platform for home = projects? >=20 > I currently run a home server on an Intel mini-itx board but was = looking around for something fun to play with with the following specs: >=20 > - mini-itx or smaller, low profile > - fanless > - low power 12V external PSU > - 1 LAN, preferably 2 > - 2 USB2/3 > - Flash bootable, but with option for hdd boot > - GPIO would be fun > - hdmi out would be nice >=20 > I have tried VIA boards but found they were flacky... >=20 > Any suggestion regarding ARM vs Intel based? Look at the Mac Mini. Only has one LAN though. It does have a fan but = I have never had it come on. Runs 9.1 (amd or i386) although booting is = currently a challenge. I am working on that. It does require 120 VAC = though.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 05:37:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202F39E5 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 05:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mapsware@prodigy.net.mx) Received: from nlpiport16.prodigy.net.mx (nlpiport16.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C044CC2E for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 05:37:44 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUFAFDJOlG9qlRO/2dsb2JhbABDr0KVHoFfFoMgAQEFgQkLGBwSVyKICgK8L41cgTcWgyoDiDs2jwCPVIMq X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,811,1355119200"; d="scan'208";a="216421560" Received: from nlpiport20.prodigy.net.mx ([148.235.52.90]) by nlpiport16.prodigy.net.mx with ESMTP; 08 Mar 2013 23:37:33 -0600 Received: from dsl-189-170-84-78-dyn.prod-infinitum.com.mx (HELO morena.lan) ([189.170.84.78]) by nlpiport20.prodigy.net.mx with ESMTP; 08 Mar 2013 23:37:33 -0600 From: Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is your favorite board for a micro system? Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 22:36:57 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <513A79F7.8030203@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <513A79F7.8030203@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201303082237.19872.mapsware@prodigy.net.mx> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 05:37:46 -0000 On Friday 08 March 2013 16:53:27 Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > Hi! > > What is your favorite mini/micro/nano/pico-itx platform for home projects? > > I currently run a home server on an Intel mini-itx board but was looking > around for something fun to play with with the following specs: > > - mini-itx or smaller, low profile > - fanless > - low power 12V external PSU > - 1 LAN, preferably 2 > - 2 USB2/3 > - Flash bootable, but with option for hdd boot > - GPIO would be fun > - hdmi out would be nice > > I have tried VIA boards but found they were flacky... > > Any suggestion regarding ARM vs Intel based? > > Thanks, Erik http://www.pandaboard.org/=20 http://beagleboard.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 06:19:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7AD6F4 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 06:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A369D73 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 06:19:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r296JOdA092527; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 23:19:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r296JNv3092524; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 23:19:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 23:19:23 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "Zane C. B-H." Subject: Re: What is your favorite board for a micro system? In-Reply-To: <20130308212308.0784bbfc@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> Message-ID: References: <513A79F7.8030203@locolomo.org> <20130308212308.0784bbfc@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="3512871622-1574370214-1362809964=:92519" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 08 Mar 2013 23:19:24 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 06:19:25 -0000 This message is in MIME format. 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B-H. wrote: > On Sat, 09 Mar 2013 00:53:27 +0100 > Erik Nørgaard wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> What is your favorite mini/micro/nano/pico-itx platform for home >> projects? >> >> I currently run a home server on an Intel mini-itx board but was >> looking around for something fun to play with with the following >> specs: >> >> - mini-itx or smaller, low profile >> - fanless >> - low power 12V external PSU >> - 1 LAN, preferably 2 >> - 2 USB2/3 >> - Flash bootable, but with option for hdd boot >> - GPIO would be fun >> - hdmi out would be nice >> >> I have tried VIA boards but found they were flacky... >> >> Any suggestion regarding ARM vs Intel based? > > Can't think of any off hand in that small of form factor, but I > strongly suggest looking to see what you can find running an Intel > Atom. I've been very happy with those and their related chipsets so > far for microATX boards. An interesting mini-ITX board was brought up in the forums recently: https://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=38255 Four Ethernet ports! 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Message-Id: <20130309105400.b181e12aa222502974715a1b@yahoo.es> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 09:53:55 -0000 Hello, I use cat to read a file and pass it to another app, the command is this: camibar% cat file.git | fossil import --git file.fossil It takes a lot of time, file.git is 12GB, and i want to know if there's some 'magic' trick can I use to show me how many bytes or the % of the file.git cat sent to the other app. Maybe cat isn't the correct tool? Thanks. --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 10:11:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B73D263 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 10:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6D78B0 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 10:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [46.244.250.106] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UEGkS-0004R4-QU; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 11:11:29 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r29ABRes002636; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:11:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id r29ABQHR002635; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:11:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:11:26 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Eduardo Morras Subject: Re: How to know % of read file in cat? Message-ID: <20130309101126.GA2609@tinyCurrent> References: <20130309105400.b181e12aa222502974715a1b@yahoo.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20130309105400.b181e12aa222502974715a1b@yahoo.es> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 46.244.250.106 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 10:11:36 -0000 El día Saturday, March 09, 2013 a las 10:54:00AM +0100, Eduardo Morras escribió: > > Hello, > > I use cat to read a file and pass it to another app, the command is this: > > camibar% cat file.git | fossil import --git file.fossil > > It takes a lot of time, file.git is 12GB, and i want to know if there's some 'magic' trick can I use to show me how many bytes or the % of the file.git cat sent to the other app. > > Maybe cat isn't the correct tool? Yes, in your case cat(1) is superflues (see also the Useless Use of Cat Award) because the correct way would be: camibar% fossil import --git file.fossil < file.git It depends of the tool 'fossil' if you can monitor somehow the progress, for example if it writes a log or with accounting tools how many bytes have been read, etc. HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 10:16:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0EE3C5 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 10:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nukama@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-x230.google.com (mail-bk0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4008:c01::230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9FA8E6 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 10:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f48.google.com with SMTP id jf20so1047846bkc.7 for ; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 02:16:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CXt67TOAqH8LXyAtmb1zkupEY3CgmcIDO4+QognphqU=; b=ePjgAJZJH6FOGbVOX86mCQ87igg2/ysdb/cdMnYy6Rycv06Od4sWEtO7JdZvHmBcji vw4FkK3cNSEpMAnzQYPMPfCJoLKtLrCjQH712sBfofyGHWO3uIbrhujkDqBvSUvGaEA6 8MXqPoLMOTjKC8nx+ovrNOrbjm8nPj9/JSU6MQXRkuglzPNfvwa3tx06maFjGRa1BzhW uheIxCDeaFCHfjpGLxnaXiSX6nUyCQCmswEXPn+jp2xKU/zNRydFctuQe56P0BnChf81 NkUlMG6l8eJXphG4+Bk6rFGvoCn5/Tivzt5LkqakkSf1W9WocJ7NyHEv7ft6FdTRsmeL Tvbg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.205.118.16 with SMTP id fo16mr2149836bkc.61.1362824170209; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 02:16:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.113.6 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 02:16:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130309105400.b181e12aa222502974715a1b@yahoo.es> References: <20130309105400.b181e12aa222502974715a1b@yahoo.es> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 10:16:10 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to know % of read file in cat? From: Hakisho Nukama To: Eduardo Morras Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 10:16:12 -0000 On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Eduardo Morras wrote: > > Hello, > > I use cat to read a file and pass it to another app, the command is this: > > camibar% cat file.git | fossil import --git file.fossil > > It takes a lot of time, file.git is 12GB, and i want to know if there's some 'magic' trick can I use to show me how many bytes or the % of the file.git cat sent to the other app. > > Maybe cat isn't the correct tool? > > Thanks. > > > --- --- > Eduardo Morras > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello Eduardo Morras, try hitting CTRL+T while running a command to show some process information. Best Regards, Hakisho Nukama From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 10:41:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FF5886 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 10:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E324398B for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 10:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-8.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.8]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980643D0E7; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:41:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r29AfYUC001928; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:41:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:41:34 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Eduardo Morras Subject: Re: How to know % of read file in cat? Message-Id: <20130309114134.eb42ba2f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130309105400.b181e12aa222502974715a1b@yahoo.es> References: <20130309105400.b181e12aa222502974715a1b@yahoo.es> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 10:41:38 -0000 On Sat, 9 Mar 2013 10:54:00 +0100, Eduardo Morras wrote: > > Hello, > > I use cat to read a file and pass it to another app, the command is this: > > camibar% cat file.git | fossil import --git file.fossil > > It takes a lot of time, file.git is 12GB, and i want to know if > there's some 'magic' trick can I use to show me how many bytes > or the % of the file.git cat sent to the other app. > > Maybe cat isn't the correct tool? Your example could be considered a "useless use of cat", because you could have used the < redirection instead. However, if the _actual_ program you're running, fossil, has an option for a verbose output or progress indicator, I would suggest using this (maybe "man fossil" lists something like -v). There are also tools that act on SIGINT or SIGINFO. This signal can be sent by pressing Ctrl-T. Maybe fossil also outputs a status message? Offering a percentage of how much of a file has been read would imply knowledge about the size of the file. The construct cat | fossil does not provide fossil with that information or even the file name in question. But obtaining the amount of data processed should be possible somehow. PS. cat-less command: fossil import --git file.fossil < file.git -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Message-Id: <20130309122425.b019dad203789ba4fd6bcd1a@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <513A79F7.8030203@locolomo.org> References: <513A79F7.8030203@locolomo.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 11:24:19 -0000 On Sat, 09 Mar 2013 00:53:27 +0100 Erik N=F8rgaard wrote: > Hi! >=20 > What is your favorite mini/micro/nano/pico-itx platform for home projects? >=20 > I currently run a home server on an Intel mini-itx board but was looking= =20 > around for something fun to play with with the following specs: >=20 > - mini-itx or smaller, low profile > - fanless > - low power 12V external PSU > - 1 LAN, preferably 2 > - 2 USB2/3 > - Flash bootable, but with option for hdd boot > - GPIO would be fun > - hdmi out would be nice >=20 > I have tried VIA boards but found they were flacky... >=20 > Any suggestion regarding ARM vs Intel based? >=20 I'm playing now with GK802, an arm based one. Freebsd don't run on it :( an= d LAN is wifi b/g/n + bluetooth https://www.miniand.com/products/GK802%20Android%20Mini%20PC The advantage over similar ones is that internal flash memory is a micro sd= card, so you can build your os on other machine "plug it in"=20 > Thanks, Erik >=20 > --=20 > M: +34 666 334 818 > T: +34 915 211 157 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 11:26:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D23358 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) Received: from nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 863F7AB9 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.230] by nm18.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2013 11:26:28 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.102] by tm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2013 11:26:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp118.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2013 11:26:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s1024; t=1362828388; bh=Z172ovf54zhG6whZFa1dmQwnttj0Ao/q+1uiEjthO3c=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3LUsCyO3UKvjeqF/wHHCsDljYsv1VQ+GmqKW+W6YD5KyHbMF7E1jQ/+oHGWDZcfIZQYIIDI/DeEI0xP6P2iCpQnouBzx6zoTssN5qA9gxa3/ItWHX0OXFu2grnhtoXKTtNFUiCM1Kzw34lXkhL+T4nmz+TM3SfVA0pDGXkC6Sng= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 592062.47222.bm@smtp118.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: hfVFAbkVM1lHYSMgSlmpFc1Hp1jwOSf5_HuO_FjgTkIswGw MoIUMYqM7aJgxKQs7yBc1OqA9OYhQdOUFau_S0WitOYrixtBHgiThnFNc_Cx .rXL.uniu6yGCpUK8v4LjbHSDgk83teSf5BBblI24Uaksi58F.MxRcBG6gBq bY3KYFkbyKjOdpa2TaVgbNnVFS9m7A.cCXo1bPt1ZEooEuBg1JJsGKP8Stza aLMJpCcMACfPANpvkDlZ1hinC2VI5M.IP1SbQgE7vXDFW6ukIYrgcJmCj978 9HcjRHxz16HqhtLnKiR7cq8rJFw9t5XnHcK9TXyB9BXw959XKHvcztOtM6t6 M9gb88RrDs9ZABjRJqBHACmSnn7Z_s3yENmnRx60fwoE__dVsiAo1KPLM_sp 0A_k4i5fT_pM- X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR Received: from camibar.emorras.eu (emorrasg@85.219.45.252 with plain) by smtp118.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Mar 2013 03:26:28 -0800 PST Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:26:42 +0100 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to know % of read file in cat? Message-Id: <20130309122642.c1112d80f8c8c671b10ea87f@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <20130309101126.GA2609@tinyCurrent> References: <20130309105400.b181e12aa222502974715a1b@yahoo.es> <20130309101126.GA2609@tinyCurrent> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Matthias Apitz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 11:26:36 -0000 On Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:11:26 +0100 Matthias Apitz wrote: > Yes, in your case cat(1) is superflues (see also the Useless Use of Cat > Award) because the correct way would be: > > camibar% fossil import --git file.fossil < file.git > > It depends of the tool 'fossil' if you can monitor somehow the progress, > for example if it writes a log or with accounting tools how many bytes > have been read, etc. No, it doesn't show any output or log about how many bytes has been processed or in what state of import is it. Nothing is shown. I'm going to modify fossil so it writes to output how many lines has been processed, it's trivial and i think enough. A wc -l file.git shows 430 millions of lines. 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Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 14:48:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384633FB for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:48:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@qxnitro.org) Received: from mail-oa0-f45.google.com (mail-oa0-f45.google.com [209.85.219.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055706D4 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id o6so3080488oag.4 for ; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 06:48:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qxnitro.org; s=google; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Hf3QmQ/PTkLXDPvtAn7nSJxIjxJZM7IysfSks+OpPi8=; b=Wdw+3MZb0XnR676Z3tE8kv6oIa68rWYV/2XyLqr8FUjl9kDO5t2kD+sZ4bmByc/AY1 PQNUONsMJ5umX5N63+JyAunccfC8SqwzhZ9WzlG3lOWz2whBsk9gbAqTqjVt0yyQ6Eqs Qr7qqRoWHAo73uzpVoY93WQnTlYs4WGJQWsG8= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Hf3QmQ/PTkLXDPvtAn7nSJxIjxJZM7IysfSks+OpPi8=; b=KTUIzorTmXE75e0v6Q/IlAg3YKLI3eK6Sjk9HDaPAFY/ct3sn5fHh6Lp15r5ZVdbp5 h1lWUYRl+AVZ9pZdH+Bw8gCQTxy+KcjXnzCrgfSQ/cOxQvlfoxYo9tt5GZnnDrzDO7cJ 6R2gysuk9INi34t3vCYaoEk6rXwLJItPqbPtZ85m+O6gcESi3nPbqwP42Nyr8ULeSXE8 j4CXXp5deIiVmNyycQlBh1FLjsMsTtIBzRITdMFGUSHqiLTdPfAzdyMXFqlcBOMvP6NN mz8U+nQQicm+ECx2Tc4vBozkeZBc/jjvc9yljn5p5YRgFeqTkcoOsP1hhn5PJf592uTo +jDA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.10.226 with SMTP id l2mr4797454oeb.67.1362840504938; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 06:48:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.168.129 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 06:48:24 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [89.100.2.69] In-Reply-To: <20130302074816.GA61133@icarus.home.lan> References: <20130302074816.GA61133@icarus.home.lan> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:48:24 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: https://wiki.freebsd.org/ certificate error From: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" To: Jeremy Chadwick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkc/jo+eVgFMIqTybvDkTpOsGbHi58UnHejZ7/q9DOhDcOoFSrZCCfuXn9PPjOivAJj/HvI Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 14:48:26 -0000 On 2 March 2013 07:48, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > (Please keep me CC'd as I'm not subscribed to -questions) > > (I'm CC'ing Simon Nielsen who maintains the FreeBSD webserver cluster, as > this obviously needs to be looked at.) > [...] > NOW BACK TO THE ACTUAL PROBLEM REPORTED -- > > It appears that whoever maintains the FreeBSD webservers in the cluster > **assumes** that the connecting client supports SNI. That assumption, > as someone who ran a hosting organisation since 1993, is rude (some > might say "bad", but I would say rude). > > Web browsers/clients that don't support SNI are screwed -- they'll > receive a "certificate validation failure" error. > > Internet Explorer 6.x through 8.x -- newer is not available on Windows > XP -- do not support SNI (this is even mentioned in the above Wikipedia > page). They return the error "There is a problem with this website's > security certificate" due to lack of SNI support. > > Let me be clear: THIS IS NOT THE FAULT (OR AGE) OF THE OS. THIS HAS TO > DO WITH THE WEB BROWSER. Why? > > Because Firefox 19.0 on Windows XP works just fine, as it supports SNI. AFAIR the problem is that some crypto library on Windows XP does not support SNI. IE uses it, Firefox and others probably don't. > So how do you solve this problem for "legacy" clients? Simple: > > By dedicating an IP address to the SSL-based virtualhost/webserver (i.e. > one IP address per SSL-based virtual host), and do away with name-based > vhosting for SSL. That's the only way. I agree that SNI is suboptimal, unfortunately it was the best of bad solutions: - We just don't have enough IPv4 addresses to dedicate one per virtual hostname. - We could use IPv6 only which means excluding even more "legacy" clients. - Bundling all sites under www.freebsd.org creates problems with cookies, more pain in configuration, and less flexibility in moving things around. - Using SubjectAlternatName (SAN) certificates where strongly considered, but fewer CA's support them (most have no clue) and it becomes a lot more painful to add new hosts. Those are also not fully supported by all older OS'es still in use. -- Simon L. B. Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 14:50:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176364DA for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1AEE6FC for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r29EoR2l049174; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:50:30 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <513B4C33.2020307@qeng-ho.org> Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 14:50:27 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130305 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= Subject: Re: What is your favorite board for a micro system? References: <513A79F7.8030203@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <513A79F7.8030203@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 14:50:39 -0000 On 03/08/13 23:53, Erik Nørgaard wrote: > Hi! > > What is your favorite mini/micro/nano/pico-itx platform for home projects? > > I currently run a home server on an Intel mini-itx board but was looking > around for something fun to play with with the following specs: > > - mini-itx or smaller, low profile > - fanless > - low power 12V external PSU > - 1 LAN, preferably 2 > - 2 USB2/3 > - Flash bootable, but with option for hdd boot > - GPIO would be fun > - hdmi out would be nice > > I have tried VIA boards but found they were flacky... > > Any suggestion regarding ARM vs Intel based? Depending exactly how small you want it, how about a Raspberry Pi Model B? Dirt cheap, 1 LAN, but you can add others via USB if you want (although it will never be high performance), 2 USB, HDMI output, GPIO, boot from SD card. Even runs FreeBSD (although still being developed). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 15:51:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EC82B5 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 15:51:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iamatt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x232.google.com (mail-we0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94083A2F for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 15:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id o45so2102985wer.37 for ; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 07:51:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aUILsaqoPPnAho3rwcyqKniwVEiHrCy34bT+1jKPjGE=; b=Fem6uQrb625vzt8ejykCl8Q6rqH1V8Sv3AKOu77Ud2CVo/UjlBK/BHnkaNoysIS6WG SoOmhJORIxeT7RIIDAAk+rTYaJ3QQ42qR3C9N7rViA0Brde5NsddCtfbZHYFNBEUwcXg rkUeWAQ4Hpcp6e46dEAoSDGOrFwS8UVlRT7Kw1pC6BKdeN7n7W4chpdRhg/uy0vvNweH zSfw0WjGGZguYE5LEtWkijnCqYP1tWKMHEwDMqNfu3yiEWqgYZF/th3DGeeAq67mnoOP CIsoAiVMLhQZVhFTCqWiuXnuG2vb+XWzevIaa+ifrNwaFdcPM9E4tsFsa5lN2D7dArcH +/zg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.242.163 with SMTP id wr3mr10388849wjc.35.1362844312786; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 07:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.33.129 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 07:51:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <513B4C33.2020307@qeng-ho.org> References: <513A79F7.8030203@locolomo.org> <513B4C33.2020307@qeng-ho.org> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 09:51:52 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is your favorite board for a micro system? From: iamatt To: Arthur Chance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 15:51:54 -0000 On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 03/08/13 23:53, Erik N=C3=B8rgaard wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> What is your favorite mini/micro/nano/pico-itx platform for home project= s? >> >> I currently run a home server on an Intel mini-itx board but was looking >> around for something fun to play with with the following specs: >> >> - mini-itx or smaller, low profile >> - fanless >> - low power 12V external PSU >> - 1 LAN, preferably 2 >> - 2 USB2/3 >> - Flash bootable, but with option for hdd boot >> - GPIO would be fun >> - hdmi out would be nice >> >> I have tried VIA boards but found they were flacky... >> >> Any suggestion regarding ARM vs Intel based? > > > Depending exactly how small you want it, how about a Raspberry Pi Model B= ? > Dirt cheap, 1 LAN, but you can add others via USB if you want (although i= t > will never be high performance), 2 USB, HDMI output, GPIO, boot from SD > card. Even runs FreeBSD (although still being developed). > Hello, Been running Freebsd on an intel D525 as suggested by a mailing list user over a year ago. This box has been running great with the exception of 9.1 not detecting the onboard ethernet. Currently running jails on it, http, mail, mincraft server for the kids, and some others. FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0 r243825: Tue Dec 4 09:23:10 UTC 2012 root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz (1800.10-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x106ca Family =3D 6 Model =3D 1c St= epping =3D 10 Features=3D0xbfebfbff Features2=3D0x40e31d AMD Features=3D0x20100800 AMD Features2=3D0x1 TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics I also have a raspberry pi B which I use to stream video and music from a jail on my 525 but it is not freebsd. OpenBSD-current on soekris 5501 has been running flawless for years too Lastly I have a beagleboard system which I won that is not doing anything but I do hear that netbsd guys can boot on it. Haven't tried atm. There are options out there for sure. The D525 was under 100 USD , not including case and some misc. parts. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 16:47:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE57151 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 16:47:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@exonetric.com) Received: from relay.exonetric.net (relay0.exonetric.net [178.250.72.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2ECF6E for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 16:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.208] (186.211.187.81.in-addr.arpa [81.187.211.186]) by relay.exonetric.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B14172C22E; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 16:38:41 +0000 (GMT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: no 9.1-release packages? From: Mark Blackman In-Reply-To: <20130307155253.GA24876@eris.bzerk.org> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 16:38:41 +0000 Message-Id: <955DBA31-0BBD-4CFD-84A0-D0FB50886BFB@exonetric.com> References: <20130307155253.GA24876@eris.bzerk.org> To: Ruben de Groot X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 16:47:26 -0000 On 7 Mar 2013, at 15:52, Ruben de Groot wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I just rented a 9.1-release VPS and was trying to install some = packages. > This however does not work as there is no directory = "packages-9.1-release" on the ftp server (ftp.freebsd.org). Why is this? >=20 If you're prepared to move to pkgng for binary packages,=20 https://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng There's an unofficial pkgng format repository of binary packages = available After installing pkgng (from ports), then edit your = /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf to use this line. PACKAGESITE : = http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/${ABI}/latest - Mark =20= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 20:11:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9F83A1 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net) Received: from rc2.surewest.net (rc2.surewest.net [66.60.130.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB0C85D for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.surewest.net ([66.60.130.145]) by rc2.surewest.net ({af05c03d-e86d-4922-90cb-b2bd72ac7e37}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20130309200742621 for ; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 20:07:42 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from ms5.mc.surewest.net (hansolo.surewest.net [64.30.98.104]) by smtp1.surewest.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A548963F for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:07:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ms5.mc.surewest.net [192.168.60.103]) by ms5.mc.surewest.net (MOS 4.1.10-GA) with HTTP/1.1 id DED57767 (AUTH leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net); Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:07:41 -0800 (PST) From: Subject: FreeBSD 9 and Windows XP To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 4.1.10-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20130309120741.DED57767@ms5.mc.surewest.net> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:07:41 -0800 (PST) X-MAG-OUTBOUND: surewest.redcondor.net@66.60.130.145/32 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 20:11:10 -0000 Good afternoon, FreeBSD enthusiasts. Can FreeBSD 9.1 be installed on a computer on which Windows XP currently resides? If so, how can this installation be done? In particular, is there a way to install 9.1 so that it can be booted from the traditional master boot record? It is important that, when I am done, I can still boot to Windows XP, as I must run some applications not available on FreeBSD. If the idea I am proposing is not feasible with version 9.1, will it work with 8.3? Any comments are appreciated. If this question has already been asked many times before, please just let me know where to look to find the answer. Thanks. Newbie502 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 20:26:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A9E6DF for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.net [99.69.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3678CC for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net (vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net [192.168.15.2]) (Authenticated sender: kitsune) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B5E553F6A9; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:26:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:25:09 -0600 From: "Zane C. B-H." To: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9 and Windows XP Message-ID: <20130309142509.78e62c3c@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> In-Reply-To: <20130309120741.DED57767@ms5.mc.surewest.net> References: <20130309120741.DED57767@ms5.mc.surewest.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/aWqzz.51g_r1OLkdsh8NJVT"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 20:26:44 -0000 --Sig_/aWqzz.51g_r1OLkdsh8NJVT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:07:41 -0800 (PST) wrote: > Good afternoon, FreeBSD enthusiasts. Can FreeBSD 9.1 be installed > on a computer on which Windows XP currently resides? If so, how > can this installation be done? In particular, is there a way to > install 9.1 so that it can be booted from the traditional master > boot record? It is important that, when I am done, I can still > boot to Windows XP, as I must run some applications not available > on FreeBSD. If the idea I am proposing is not feasible with > version 9.1, will it work with 8.3? Any comments are appreciated. > If this question has already been asked many times before, please > just let me know where to look to find the answer. Thanks. > Newbie502 When I did it, I shrunk the Windows partition and installed FreeBSD to the a new partition created on the free space of the drive. The multiboot version of the MBR stuff for FreeBSD should be able to handle it for you with out issue. I've not done it with 9.1, but when I did it with 6 way back when, it worked nicely. --Sig_/aWqzz.51g_r1OLkdsh8NJVT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlE7mqgACgkQqrJJy0yxYQCClACfV0dBzSFHQDTmh3Pa5kXEUP6k d5QAn0S0i6sLOnQOz0rlZq+K8Cm9r1nM =BbuE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/aWqzz.51g_r1OLkdsh8NJVT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 20:27:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7601E916 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BEB8F5 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-8.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.8]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C871C277B2; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 21:27:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r29KRjsf029853; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 21:27:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 21:27:45 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9 and Windows XP Message-Id: <20130309212745.c875489b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130309120741.DED57767@ms5.mc.surewest.net> References: <20130309120741.DED57767@ms5.mc.surewest.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 20:27:48 -0000 On Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:07:41 -0800 (PST), leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net wrote: > Good afternoon, FreeBSD enthusiasts. Can FreeBSD 9.1 be > installed on a computer on which Windows XP currently > resides? Yes. > If so, how can this installation be done? First of all, you need a tool to make disk space available; you can do this by adding an additional hard disk, or by resizing the "Windows" partition. As "Windows" does not seem to provide native tools to do this, you will have to download a live system CD that contains a partition management tool such as GParted; the UBCD live system CD contains such a tool, if I remember correctly. There are also dedicated boot CDs for this task, I think "Partition Magic" is one of them. (Sorry I can't be more specific, I have only limited experience with dual-booting and the need to use such tools.) > In particular, is there a way to install 9.1 so that it > can be booted from the traditional master boot record? In the installer, install the boot manager. This will allow you to select if to boot FreeBSD or "Windows" when the system has started. > It is important that, when I am done, I can still boot to > Windows XP, as I must run some applications not available > on FreeBSD. That's the purpose of such a tool. :-) > If the idea I am proposing is not feasible with version 9.1, > will it work with 8.3? If I remember correctly, it has already been working in much older versions (such as 5.0). The old installer (sysinstall) had three options for dealing with the MBR: write a standard MBR (will boot FreeBSD, typically used on a system that runs this OS dedicatedly), install the boot manager (allows to select what to boot), or leave the MBR untouched (will require booting by a different means). The new installer (bsdinstall) offers similar options. > If this question has already been asked many times before, > please just let me know where to look to find the answer. Check The FreeBSD Handbook for detailed instructions about the new installer. This will also cover dual-booting. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/index.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/disks.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 20:30:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B01A07 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:30:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50B991B for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:30:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hq4so298767wib.17 for ; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 12:30:56 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=JJD9X3SCOWW7zVfiZP8W5weG9662V+A438YttO/SEAQ=; b=lfMuBpqgmsl195Gm0fi/z72047wCmOFsdruLux/RQfYK8DoatyUWpn+QUI0d45GdAP zuucRTL6yazSO7x6BTdnEXt/xmCp3aw79RZKsx1GziK2UedLbgZfv1kXyhe/ok0qSonM Ip62RSo8fY5vAOIB6khaZHIYlT5zIpJpn+cQAKS4EFxSni2uV/PqpgAjZsMUGVJoAw5s FTpzUzL2G3EZJjRrTe377iTfXx3lh649Tccnx3RDk+XiQTLoto1WIHypckVzXz96ZEkN YPYKBS7wDZ08YxyXKswfSlUi/Rpn9awmovM4N5aFLvshLwstPfEYWn1ejUHGMsrxVHYp +2vg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.57.137 with SMTP id i9mr11286052wjq.18.1362861056757; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 12:30:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.97.135 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:30:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130309120741.DED57767@ms5.mc.surewest.net> References: <20130309120741.DED57767@ms5.mc.surewest.net> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 15:30:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9 and Windows XP From: Alejandro Imass To: leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlCqfb5RobweJ1ydsWg0llsW7RiG+RU0wU9a4of83WL24VZNSO32vAET82k3vx3B9Z7WQG2 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 20:30:58 -0000 On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 3:07 PM, wrote: > Good afternoon, FreeBSD enthusiasts. Can FreeBSD 9.1 be installed on a computer on which Windows XP currently resides? As others have already answered, yes. The risks are minimal if you are careful but you will always have the risk of breaking something so make a backup of your XP before doing _anything_. Also, even before doing that, run a de-fragmenter. -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 20:49:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FC8C22 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D593999 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 20:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.49] by nm19.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2013 20:49:29 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.75] by tm2.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2013 20:49:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Mar 2013 20:49:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1362862169; bh=+qRViWCtjb02zNBVZlhniSStQrj+MigR/0JEGKIejus=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2X6u/59OaSDNwqoACpcGnxaxVw2RjH4Aq11IesfnZLB/adJM7ZDBmJaytKlA//nYYZ1UvVdTDLYSUcWZwTlCnq1lQwGehOb87ayfMojL6VWg8ZUn+m7JGCkaJ64pwCVDSZ52uvaAEmMxLvhL4lLM3uahvzy7bElKKEGJHK+ydfs= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 707388.21955.bm@smtp112.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Czle1rQVM1nbYbKDLXGKWwUR0szVA.5YOc1UYAm2oq_XNK2 .zS5xAtZUA4QDE8lRwhQ0q4jxvXXMvwF80He_OszpUHXkpdU2iFJue9gzfBB n1UbJ3a6srvKNYvpqZ6GOhqClSRnjKj4rx4t5tQscvF.CnLoH8NdZWR0v4Kc fJEGLeDxHZ9LwHkDJTSF2l8Q557aqPFK.QMQDFJS3BsOOIqmUIM1K.e3E85z gsBn5rRXIgF44LPKgxEd7iphsSkcOyu6_ybd4wEG4MeGxrwp7PFadTKzY2Yr Ee4bP0fS9lUuUQlYroia41mh8wEDmvPnoY0Nx0l8bntJLis4grgNpuFB9Ayw 59kwnCDnnpaHmfCCM.CQ783gDQnfKTDnbguWch5YIQmYBuVkqcYRMqvtc6uV yRn5h6LwNbRA3oALxvzvJzl9LYpGtBAZf2BRrSYhvKgh10WEnGmzh.Rj0R8Z 2kllFqaCvV.tFKzRfLnk1sx37342Ero6w.9.ExqhaGkZoMJS.tVeLAfSEc2j 67jW1DA8A3B_smFPJEqruul.qzDCehb5I X-Yahoo-SMTP: DA3qLniswBBZgRt2JJU8mgA5oHKX4bbYJ__UUAz6K3gYMeVbbg5Qkg-- Received: from [78.50.20.253] (info.mardorf@78.50.20.253 with login) by smtp112.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Mar 2013 20:49:29 +0000 UTC Message-ID: <1362862169.593.110.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9 and Windows XP From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 21:49:29 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20130309212745.c875489b.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20130309120741.DED57767@ms5.mc.surewest.net> <20130309212745.c875489b.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 20:49:35 -0000 On Sat, 2013-03-09 at 21:27 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > "Partition Magic" I would avoid to use proprietary software, ntfs, fat16 and fat32 are full supported by Linux gparted, available for free as in beer at http://partedmagic.com as a live media. Perhaps you need to defragment the Windows partitions first. You need to add a primary partition for FreeBSD, an extended partition with logical partitions can't be used to install FreeBSD. I've got FreeBSD and tons of Linux installed, no Windows. However, my partition table is MBR based, as yours. Gparted can't create the FreeBSD slice, you need to do this with e.g. the FreeBSD installer. I had to use 8.3 and than to update to 9.1, I tested 9.0 first, but I couldn't create the slice, resp. the partitions in that slice. Hth, Ralf -- http://sacom.hk/mission From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 21:42:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBB01B8 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 21:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD210B48 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 21:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-102-36.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.102.36]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0853D08E; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 22:42:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r29LgSKB030191; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 22:42:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 22:42:28 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9 and Windows XP Message-Id: <20130309224228.0b3ada80.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1362862169.593.110.camel@archlinux> References: <20130309120741.DED57767@ms5.mc.surewest.net> <20130309212745.c875489b.freebsd@edvax.de> <1362862169.593.110.camel@archlinux> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 21:42:26 -0000 On Sat, 09 Mar 2013 21:49:29 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2013-03-09 at 21:27 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > "Partition Magic" > > I would avoid to use proprietary software, ntfs, fat16 and fat32 are > full supported by Linux gparted, available for free as in beer at > http://partedmagic.com as a live media. Thanks for mentioning it - "Parted Magic" was the project I was actually refering to. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 22:24:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B247EEC9 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 22:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F43D57 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 22:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [92.76.66.188] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.74) (envelope-from ) id 1UESBv-0006fw-F4; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 23:24:35 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net, Polytropon Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9 and Windows XP References: <20130309120741.DED57767@ms5.mc.surewest.net> <20130309212745.c875489b.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 23:24:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130309212745.c875489b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.14 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.6/16819/Sat Mar 9 18:40:37 2013) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:24:43 -0000 On Sat, 09 Mar 2013 21:27:45 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 9 Mar 2013 12:07:41 -0800 (PST), > leeoliveshackelford@surewest.net wrote: >> Good afternoon, FreeBSD enthusiasts. Can FreeBSD 9.1 be >> installed on a computer on which Windows XP currently >> resides? > > Yes. > > > >> If so, how can this installation be done? > > First of all, you need a tool to make disk space available; > you can do this by adding an additional hard disk, or by > resizing the "Windows" partition. As "Windows" does not > seem to provide native tools to do this I may misremember, but Win7 does have a functional "shrink drive" in the drive administration console, and I do think that was there in XP already. Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 22:34:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E19FF1 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 22:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f46.google.com (mail-ee0-f46.google.com [74.125.83.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F02D93 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 22:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f46.google.com with SMTP id e49so1654287eek.33 for ; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 14:34:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=syR9S2u0/U7PNX2wem/NjbBzIYzWB25pjzJOVeFEnZ4=; b=xnMeTmGdcWh2kqH0Md/p4DS8IxM63ukEFw6CGMUr33/SywTAdhWIbbNqTkn5ew8MKS aZKHoeniKuW/cKlYKcbYuEBlAFXEM1Kp8wsfNPYrK75gOjLayLCusGntCb9l16nSTaZt 3i17m5nQpCDbhasf7poknZs6/9SS/WuZ7EQPX1d8f+pzbuAdVeG4rHTmVhlGf3V7Yeit C/rXIXCJxnvHW9C+RorML0q/R4Gs8ySqSUcNJT0cLRJpZQ+kBgN8IHFc8lA77YAukfpo E9Y+xOng3YiEI5YbkXVKtBMybNn9ae5sNY2jbwKSvivLdbVc+BALIF4ENrUHrjmvjDe5 UpAQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.14.0.73 with SMTP id 49mr20109602eea.21.1362868457479; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 14:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.183.135 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:34:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 15:34:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Revoke a DHCP lease early? From: Modulok To: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:34:19 -0000 List, I'm running isc-dhcpd to serve leases to clients. Is there a way to expire a lease before it normally would, i.e. force a client to re-negotiate a lease early? Perhaps some shell command akin to the following (which would be nice, but obviously doesn't work):: dhcpd --revoke 192.168.1.24 How do you revoke a client's lease prematurely? Thanks. -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 22:50:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF60565 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 22:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ea0-x236.google.com (mail-ea0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F604E21 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 22:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f182.google.com with SMTP id q15so669244ead.13 for ; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 14:50:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=LhgEKRGgLSaEDNxwCs6LPiFbwKQyvmk7JEwrMjEjmW0=; b=h09UR46NyxO+baplfhcJZdcxBANyeL+Wgm5vtZrU18HKYQ/c0WeSQhuL55Dro4oQoY FDg143domgw4ZhinWFxVBhqpleD6C7+boeTWPD9yBR1qAskQwsiqRfP8yikDMOtJ4HUQ FMTfpTC+w4EcmX/u2RbziQi7ot0a2cCbX/VLVZ4N9yaZ94rZLvnNmQNshKEC42anz2fA nI9fFMVKCcZpk1VwB7k8s1fw4WfCUIsSQcaqsyMCSXJPbH5ORttZO4oZnSJYelVu6LHA aoWU+oms3elsNiWzIrjiBsBlln1j5dVs6MljJIsg75j5BmQxhfQUJECIi1l40tMRNwx3 hbvw== X-Received: by 10.14.3.133 with SMTP id 5mr19917177eeh.43.1362869404415; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 14:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn.gmail.com (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ca4sm11624402eeb.15.2013.03.09.14.50.02 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Mar 2013 14:50:03 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Matthias Petermann Subject: Re: backups using rsync References: <6126.1362396930@server1.tristatelogic.com> <20130305160021.GA9376@saturn> <20130305203022.Horde.dksye196oEwlUQ41iOTg2Q9@d2ux.org> Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 23:49:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20130305203022.Horde.dksye196oEwlUQ41iOTg2Q9@d2ux.org> (Matthias Petermann's message of "Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:30:22 +0100") Message-ID: <87vc902noo.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 22:50:05 -0000 On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:30:22 +0100, Matthias Petermann wrote: > Hello, > Zitat von Giorgos Keramidas : > >> If this is a UFS2 filesystem, it may be a good idea to snapshot the >> filesystem, and then rsync-backup the snapshot instead. > > Last time I tried UFS2 snapshots I found out two serious limitations. > The first is it doesn't work when UFS Journaling is used. The second is > that taking a snapshop on a large filesystem can cause parts of the > system to freeze for many minutes up to hours when accessing files > part of the snapshot, depending on the size of the filesystem. > That's why I could not use it on my server with > 1TB UFS2. > > Did this improve in the last year? (I guess my experience is from the > time around 9.0 release). Hi Matthias, Unfortunately I don't know if snapshots for such large filesystems are faster now. I've only used UFS2 snapshots in about 10x times smaller filesystems here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 23:25:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84BE4FA for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 23:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9245DF43 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 23:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([173.88.202.176]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 9 Mar 2013 15:25:24 -0800 Message-ID: <513BC4E2.4040708@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 18:25:22 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: svn & new pkg system Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2013 23:25:24.0464 (UTC) FILETIME=[60255700:01CE1D1D] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 23:25:28 -0000 Is svn going to become part of the base system in 9.2-RELEASE? Is the new pkg system going to totally replace the pkg_ system in the base 9.2-Release? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 23:55:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D52FB5 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 23:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B579141 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 23:55:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from irix.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.39] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UETbs-0005hK-AU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 23:55:30 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UETbs-0001OM-53 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 23:55:28 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r29NtRdj015519 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 23:55:27 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r29NtRX4015510 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 23:55:27 GMT (envelope-from mexas) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 23:55:27 GMT From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201303092355.r29NtRX4015510@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: how to forbid a process to use swap? X-Spam-Score: -3.8 X-Spam-Level: --- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 23:55:37 -0000 I run a program that uses large arrays. I don't want it to use swap, because it's too slow. I want the program to fail when there's not enough RAM, rather than using swap. How to do this? Is it something to do with these kernel variables: kern.dfldsiz: 34359738368 kern.dflssiz: 8388608 kern.maxdsiz: 34359738368 kern.maxssiz: 536870912 kern.maxtsiz: 134217728 Many thanks Anton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 9 23:57:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACBFEF for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 23:57:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ea0-x229.google.com (mail-ea0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4622A15B for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 23:57:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f169.google.com with SMTP id z7so689061eaf.28 for ; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 15:57:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=0orEICVwK3Cy6e2DDQcyVxArO25G8P2uJBn1SxS8EuY=; b=xgwH4ckKvToawnyze3M0ayn1c5UXQWgEXDrMuNKfSLeWV8t9Ea8XU8UluAnqpRrYvg PZwSEypYkW3JCvEhyrZpHNU/yLkXwiNC6ZmH1qiFB7bWZB+1e3z7GlqIFRNDD+HwsptC HHR6RQS5/Tb8Rkqa5Pw/0NUphXL8qccP6uyavYWokw1yNYnM4oyAWzgFuFdr+ooy/osI qFqK8B1VyeQSxOn3xmz/likym9zOYRg7dIO2gYteSsn0mzd66SXZk6v+uZzDFgKZ/iOk PD2FGSu+k9h7fukuCoR3FXbUlGb3E23VNhLm4ysKYLQ/ufZlvdPHUOBUkH3ttuOOnQbO f6Ng== X-Received: by 10.14.215.193 with SMTP id e41mr20566469eep.32.1362873450489; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 15:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn.gmail.com (217-162-217-29.dynamic.hispeed.ch. [217.162.217.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q5sm15497068eeo.17.2013.03.09.15.57.28 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Mar 2013 15:57:29 -0800 (PST) Sender: Giorgos Keramidas From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Fbsd8 Subject: Re: svn & new pkg system References: <513BC4E2.4040708@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 00:57:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: <513BC4E2.4040708@a1poweruser.com> (fbsd8@a1poweruser.com's message of "Sat, 09 Mar 2013 18:25:22 -0500") Message-ID: <87ppz8ceje.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 23:57:31 -0000 On Sat, 09 Mar 2013 18:25:22 -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: > Is svn going to become part of the base system in 9.2-RELEASE? No. Subversion is a large system, with a ton of dependencies, and there's basically _nothing_ to gain by having to spend extra effort trying to keep an imported version up to date. Having svn-X.0 in the source tree, imported at great expense of time and effort, will provide exactly _zero_ benefits if the underlying format of the repository changes (like subversion likes doing really often). On the other hand, installing subversion from the ports or even from the precompiled packages is always going to work, and we're always going to have a port for it as long as it's a tool that's required to work with the source tree of the system. > Is the new pkg system going to totally replace the pkg_ system in the > base 9.2-Release? I think so. But I have to check to be sure.