From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 22:09:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F18688E6; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 22:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x234.google.com (mail-lb0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D667D96; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 22:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f180.google.com with SMTP id n15so2973012lbi.11 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:09:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dNRnW9tft1KPSp0ZZiAe50lEk6jZCyt3Q6hILnGlEbU=; b=QVJQd4YNSb2J8Nqi7kFmoPoK5NlPkBwOiXYzyh4guf8Y2KRGIyYGgl2e7SF6FMrLDB 0fXKWkcFMvsQvytbX3/d+QSURWeXwrm5BDfs+YmwNQlYssEOxpRaDjvK9Q2UnW67z74f Tvmz0yvnEaWKj78dOel49nsRjSqBW7ea/FQ9fptVRH8mBtnxfNxC2iJojQNxAoEOD3nZ tPLEYVBZn/xCdF/WXtZgEc/pA1tKb4XHu+WwtJD+fZQb5NrKeot0JH7qWPMuWjdCHpf3 O+rVAFQdP5tmjU+vkCjiZUx6UkUOkXbQHIuhcLm0AL2TmCoem4VpezcpAty2KaOLnZ4v ZDUQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.10.143 with SMTP id i15mr23465398lab.5.1413756551085; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Sender: crodr001@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.131.66 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:09:11 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: gSiyBO0YjQWQu7FcWEwafmsFqu8 Message-ID: Subject: Voxer using FreeBSD, BSDNow.tv interview From: Craig Rodrigues To: freebsd-current Current , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 22:09:14 -0000 Hi, If you don't watch BSDNow.tv ( http://bsdnow.tv ), I encourage you to do so. Allan Jude and Kris Moore do a great job of doing a weekly video podcast of news in the BSD world. It is great stuff. In episode 58 ( http://www.bsdnow.tv/episodes/2014_10_08-behind_the_masq ) BSDNow interviewed the CTO of Voxer ( http://voxer.com ), a mobile messaging startup based in San Francisco. Voxer mentioned how they transitioned from SmartOS (an Illumos/Solaris distribution) to FreeBSD. What Voxer liked: (1) DTrace worked for their node.js apps (2) ZFS worked nicely (3) jails work nicely (4) Easy to transition away from SmartOS/Illumos because of (1) and (2) (5) Better support for 3rd party applications (ports) than SmartOS/Illumos (6) Better hardware support than SmartOS/Illumos (7) Good documentation, professional/technical discussions on mailing lists (8) For people who use MacOS X, the FreeBSD command-line utilities were familiar What Voxer didn't like: Voxer was super positive about FreeBSD in the interview, and didn't really mention many downsides to their transition. The only things I could pick up on: (1) Support for FreeBSD in Chef was not as good as they would have liked. They actually have patches to Chef for FreeBSD which they want to upstream. (2) Most devops engineers in web/mobile companies are familiar with Linux. Any differences between Linux and FreeBSD in command-line utilities are not show-stoppers, but they are annoyances. Anything FreeBSD could do to help people used to Linux would be a big help. Allan Jude even brought up my request to symlink /bin/bash ( https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2014-September/095483.html ) :) The interview was really good, and I encourage everyone to watch it. It's nice to see a "modern" web/mobile company migrating *to* FreeBSD. -- Craig