From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sun Jun 5 19:06:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480F1B6B113 for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2016 19:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from isoa@kapsi.fi) Received: from mail.kapsi.fi (mx1.kapsi.fi [IPv6:2001:1bc8:1004::1:25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F11131FDB for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2016 19:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from isoa@kapsi.fi) Received: from 91-159-15-56.elisa-laajakaista.fi ([91.159.15.56] helo=[192.168.255.143]) by mail.kapsi.fi with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1b9dNB-0004U4-0n; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 22:06:09 +0300 Subject: Re: laptop recommendations for radeon driver testing To: Matthew Macy References: <1551a1b8b6d.dec889f4110266.157903038967158872@nextbsd.org> <1551d4cb275.c5ed22e3125558.3461924622781584508@nextbsd.org> Cc: "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" From: Arto Pekkanen Message-ID: <31f609dd-df11-bd46-befa-ecf620be092c@kapsi.fi> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 22:06:03 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1551d4cb275.c5ed22e3125558.3461924622781584508@nextbsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LqRr2iviHtx2eKA18i5OwwjE0ddJ0vfdL" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 91.159.15.56 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: isoa@kapsi.fi X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.kapsi.fi); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 19:06:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --LqRr2iviHtx2eKA18i5OwwjE0ddJ0vfdL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="x26SaubFbRLVgFpbVlgdcbbPoS4dXQPT4" From: Arto Pekkanen To: Matthew Macy Cc: "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <31f609dd-df11-bd46-befa-ecf620be092c@kapsi.fi> Subject: Re: laptop recommendations for radeon driver testing References: <1551a1b8b6d.dec889f4110266.157903038967158872@nextbsd.org> <1551d4cb275.c5ed22e3125558.3461924622781584508@nextbsd.org> In-Reply-To: <1551d4cb275.c5ed22e3125558.3461924622781584508@nextbsd.org> --x26SaubFbRLVgFpbVlgdcbbPoS4dXQPT4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am going to keep an eye out for a cheap laptop. I will use this list as reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units I assume that all GPUs with codename of either Oland, Cape Verde, Pitcairn or Tahiti should comply to GCN 1.0 spec, unless the microarchitecture has bee explicitly specified. Browsing eBay right now and it seems like there aren't (m)any cheap laptops with GCN 1.0 GPU on board. I found two candidates, but they are both kinda expensive: - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Inspiron-15R-7520SE-i7-quad-core-8GB-RAM-15-= 6-Full-HD-Radeon-7730M-2GB-/182134028932?hash=3Ditem2a6808ba84:g:7tcAAOSw= xehXOegi - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-N56DP-DH11-AMD-A10-4600M-2-3GHz-8GB-1TB-AMD-= Radeon-HD-7730M-15-6-Win-8-/252203481042?hash=3Ditem3ab87fb7d2:g:qUsAAOSw= 7FRWZeTe At this point it might be fastest (and easiest?) to just get the cheapest possible motherboard with PCI-E, cheap CPU, add some RAM and then buy a separate GPU card. Getting a separate GPU PCI-E card is easy because they always sell them with the marketing name, and then you can be 100% sure what you are getting. With laptops the sellers rarely specify the exact GPU model in a way that it would be searchable. But I will keep looking for a laptop, if I find a laptop with GCN 1.0 GPU I'll post a reply in this list. On 05.06.2016 00:23, Matthew Macy wrote: > ... > > > On 04.06.2016 09:31, Matthew Macy wrote:=20 > > >> I have an Ivy Bridge, a Haswell, a Skylake, and a Cherry Trail ba= sed system for testing i915 - along with an Arrandale (T410) on the way. = I have a Thinkpad e565, a Fury X, and a Fury Nano for testing amdgpu. How= ever, I have nothing that uses Radeon. After all the time I've put in to= Intel (continue to put in :-/) I feel that I would be remiss in simply t= ossing the code out there and hoping that it works. This all a long winde= d way of saying please recommend a pre-GCN3 based laptop.=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >> I know I could easily obtain a card, but my desktop isn't for cra= sh testing, and my servers are for network testing and network cards don'= t seem to cohabit well. At least when I tried to put a GTX980Ti in next t= o a Intel Niantic 10GigE card the system didn't boot.=20 > > >>=20 > > >> Thanks.=20 > > >>=20 > > >> -M=20 > > >>=20 > > >> _______________________________________________=20 > > >> freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11=20 > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd= =2Eorg"=20 > > =20 > > =20 > > I *think* I have one of those as well (is there a 'sysctl' incantati= on =20 > > that will tell me ?), the board on this machine as I type this, *LOV= E* =20 > > it. Just wish the gfx acceleration worked ;-/ ....=20 > > =20 > > =20 >=20 > sysctl hw.model? >=20 > GCN2 is actually supported by BOTH radeon and amdgpu. I have amdgpu loa= ding (and when I start dogfooding that will be the driver that gets all t= he use), but debugging it is taking a backseat to fixing support gaps in = i915. A GCN1 system would actually be ideal as that's something that will= only be supported by radeon - at least until the end of the year. >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > -M --x26SaubFbRLVgFpbVlgdcbbPoS4dXQPT4-- --LqRr2iviHtx2eKA18i5OwwjE0ddJ0vfdL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAldUeBwACgkQTBivhqtJa25WkgEApeJm8sDCIspNliHZOG5tBvDY smj6WBetdbkCrLNvJpMBAKiNnMOMFFk0d5zgCf13Z8LNxFgPoH+G465eqp7cyRrt =zkbY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LqRr2iviHtx2eKA18i5OwwjE0ddJ0vfdL--