From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 25 17:59:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10678C901F5 for ; Sun, 25 Dec 2016 17:59:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688FB1D4 for ; Sun, 25 Dec 2016 17:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 39557533 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2016 23:55:36 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id uBPHxeOu056319 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 00:59:40 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id uBPHxcoL056318 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 00:59:38 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 00:59:38 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OPIE calculator for Android? Message-ID: <20161225175938.GA56281@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20161211093110.GA79820@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20161211093110.GA79820@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.1 (2016-10-04) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 17:59:45 -0000 Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Does anyone use an OPIE calculator (opiekey(1) compatible) on Android? > There used to be some in Google Play a couple of years ago, but now I > cannot find a single one. > > Can you share what you use (other than a scrap of paper with keys > printed beforehand)? This one is best: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.ub0r.android.otpdroid it can even generate several responses at once (like 'opiekey -n'). -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Dec 25 19:05:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA47DC9057F for ; Sun, 25 Dec 2016 19:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robbelics@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-x232.google.com (mail-yw0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8E9F1FB0 for ; Sun, 25 Dec 2016 19:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robbelics@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yw0-x232.google.com with SMTP id v81so47390406ywb.2 for ; Sun, 25 Dec 2016 11:05:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=XOQWz7ye/jqoP/PGdVq+/1SMRnFuhOh4tdQ71hWVHAo=; b=lvo3uIEFWtfSHzcIuYXDiMeQe2jnWzO3HdrMa53vRo5udLnFsfWEoUv4z1rhAFu9RI X2V/Lp7q/crZJhl4bfIn3GJUUgAj8ZGpbNWA+DcZuVRTaz9Kc1zfTMhGJOtOuIX9B2+F uLYyOwOcKbU3UhQhh5G6I/XCQm5V1EX/6rwA9aiY15kVYyirBqWXkZsGch+zPiKbIBox 8EoAhhPgcvAtEqn2sIO0n6pdDxJ/HFo3xm7kIGal1a6VUnpe6VY0Yn79G2frf4xuiR/p 72uT8gZtve1iCkeC+ENld4S4q65J6H5eWY0dhPNm5YMpzUx4q9ls1wPL+T0qtP+IFwzD Anxg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=XOQWz7ye/jqoP/PGdVq+/1SMRnFuhOh4tdQ71hWVHAo=; b=GbGV6h1cJL0yRtAB6K529NmTqGIEnb9mBkLpV4/aBaJoAbOfAjGkzaP3YJmb5VF5WU ztnobxIPr/ghSKHXpVUCld+ZzyYgdk37pXPuXoZIzndz9jX6Brxb4ruf1O+3FzTcO/V+ iBhMfEtKPxozUsryvszXJmAi0PuevJ1QMGz1Ss2Th/kY+SGQxkY8DKOKiU+OTQdSeTu3 KRhi20fh2Nm2oMW3uS/D+PlYA+dK4NJTWZWZGA8q+0450AGVWapvzVN3Ezjce7hWD3iL hKXcRzb/qQ9EHkx8dVA+tWlaqVRnVuUwPo2y1cUZLghWszvAXHUpC73g5MvLEoz4wEN+ otnA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXL1dee+1Ix2oKkOC9Ws4T4dv6ufoEfF/5r+6XQmetjWeB33kU7oMOhSd/HApxIojOh6JrmMzomiH7mPwg== X-Received: by 10.129.84.70 with SMTP id i67mr18446441ywb.306.1482692700731; Sun, 25 Dec 2016 11:05:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.207.133 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Dec 2016 11:05:00 -0800 (PST) From: Rob Belics Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 13:05:00 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: mandoc.db keeps changing in 11.0-RELEASE? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 19:05:02 -0000 I have noticed the same for several days. I've also not been able to update the ports tree using portsnap either. 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Thanks in advance Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 26 10:04:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D6BC901D4 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 10:04:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com (mail-wm0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B9CC363 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 10:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id t79so262161370wmt.0 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 02:04:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PmsZQ/cb9bK0fq7wgZrDofs6l+Vs5bJPzMo11GodWb8=; b=oWW/92kngoB9jzov+dVOM6IEp4UTs+K4QyGl87idNEdhIt4txSHTngPlI9OCcd9huN 0lOvXL/C04gdGZlxm5J/avHWEStREtnVq62gwgc1PBzrpbZ9c5u3fdT7CxLPDDsgQ/1E B5DtJD4pksQ9OK58AEcYC2U7CwE1kZNOcJt4qIvnGd5+zYx7W68OYyD+ywdf4U9CQDWs iZlGDZwJOfIRoaYHTsI4HDw5EBWHvB807tn6xepxnjb9pkt3UvOQXZQAGGIcsB9ztWOq hgS6cE0rycm9FVoEhq/WCWtTTxpmbyukZZm/W3dO931CBlSgxUURXP+solvdkifR+hf4 XqNw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PmsZQ/cb9bK0fq7wgZrDofs6l+Vs5bJPzMo11GodWb8=; b=sghZRDB/ZMNqKPVnaw/7r8lMETwgIsGHqqLoO/1dhwnF85FOoOLgn80PrlqOljxISr qU1qA22o3W29nsuOCC+l78/fes2rtl+bfBX1/kuYWfDMFdMMCwPxnodC3Uu935RxmJ6G 1c7u43Co0AJlSIUCN6tJjObXu4JrROSnpRF1TuI4F7NwplNw00sZFMqQkNUNdtLz71/E ZFpnigbgiDAOb3OCLy30WQaOQm5voFds8wuaXeLOvDHJQnS1kmQHPLFHXXiXorjXReSd l+jnXCqXBz5sGwu1rfQ0hPaoxsCH2F7sWE4lbKfklw8R42aj/Q6Vmh10HqMQR/qQRF0m PhKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLu93tRAbHRmiB6OcSzotl0IviB9Z8lw9ghJk5iGJFJCBhdxK4t9wwnFjuq0g5KcQ== X-Received: by 10.28.132.201 with SMTP id g192mr23892899wmd.134.1482746647498; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 02:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.27] (AStrasbourg-652-1-213-246.w90-33.abo.wanadoo.fr. [90.33.128.246]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ia7sm53989416wjb.23.2016.12.26.02.04.06 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 26 Dec 2016 02:04:07 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David Demelier Subject: Completely unusable psm(4) with synaptics support Message-ID: <03084765-9d77-192d-e33a-dbca514e3a7c@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 11:03:29 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 10:04:10 -0000 Hello all, Several years ago (with FreeBSD 8) I got my touchpad working on my HP Probook4510s. I've reinstalled FreeBSD-CURRENT on it to test bhyve and all KMS stuff. I read on the wiki that we should use the psm(4) synaptics driver instead of X.Org one, so I've only installed xorg + mouse/keyboard drivers. When running X, I can do almost nothing with my touchpad. I can move the pointer but I can not click, I can not tap, I can not do two finger scroll or edge scroll. Middle click does not work either. To summary: I can just move it. I don't know what to do / config more. Here's my sysctl hw.psm.synaptics list of values (all defaults) $ sysctl hw.psm.synaptics hw.psm.synaptics.touchpad_off: 0 hw.psm.synaptics.vscroll_div_max: 150 hw.psm.synaptics.vscroll_div_min: 100 hw.psm.synaptics.vscroll_min_delta: 50 hw.psm.synaptics.vscroll_ver_area: -600 hw.psm.synaptics.vscroll_hor_area: 0 hw.psm.synaptics.taphold_timeout: 125000 hw.psm.synaptics.tap_min_queue: 2 hw.psm.synaptics.tap_max_delta: 80 hw.psm.synaptics.div_len: 100 hw.psm.synaptics.div_max_na: 30 hw.psm.synaptics.div_max: 17 hw.psm.synaptics.div_min: 9 hw.psm.synaptics.weight_len_squared: 2000 hw.psm.synaptics.weight_previous_na: 20 hw.psm.synaptics.weight_previous: 6 hw.psm.synaptics.weight_current: 3 hw.psm.synaptics.multiplicator: 10000 hw.psm.synaptics.window_max: 10 hw.psm.synaptics.window_min: 4 hw.psm.synaptics.na_left: 1600 hw.psm.synaptics.na_bottom: 1408 hw.psm.synaptics.na_right: 563 hw.psm.synaptics.na_top: 1783 hw.psm.synaptics.margin_left: 200 hw.psm.synaptics.margin_bottom: 200 hw.psm.synaptics.margin_right: 200 hw.psm.synaptics.margin_top: 200 hw.psm.synaptics.max_width: 10 hw.psm.synaptics.max_pressure: 220 hw.psm.synaptics.min_pressure: 16 hw.psm.synaptics.two_finger_scroll: 1 hw.psm.synaptics.max_y: 6143 hw.psm.synaptics.max_x: 6143 hw.psm.synaptics.directional_scrolls: 0 Xorg is configured to use devd auto configurations, I have no xorg.conf files. Any comment is appreciated, Regards -- David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 26 10:47:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7796C0B5AE for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 10:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@golir.ru) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B0CBFA for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 10:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@golir.ru) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id C5145C0B5AD; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 10:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4865C0B5AC for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 10:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@golir.ru) Received: from mail.golir.ru (mail.golir.ru [109.120.138.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B3E3BEF for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 10:47:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@golir.ru) Message-ID: <5EA4E30B419597F4282D64D1D59CC024@golir.ru> Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?xerg8uXw6O3g?= From: =?windows-1251?B?xerg8uXw6O3g?= To: Subject: =?windows-1251?B?5S3s5enrIOjt9O7w7Ojw7uLg7ejl?= Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 15:47:01 +0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=golir.ru; s=mail; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1482749221; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version; bh=WkQwTR0WvTsCuRtRjwgbLzn9AOE8/EyMBJnZeINgUsU=; b=fIwguWDNZCl3xUMsmaAZYg+CFi5bcKYDvfs6//dIhGvedOEgt1heIBXx4Tiryt v/QxguTyMXcOw+yREV9H2KeumFiiCP/QfO1pmpEU++8g6SmIYxtIDNiFYGZch32T 6VtGrrNHPJxICWl9iR82lgOxpEU1NSJVFZ2svzZ6RnCjo= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 10:47:11 -0000 =C4=EE=E1=F0=FB=E9 =C4=E5=ED=FC, =D3=E2=E0=E6=E0=E5=EC=FB=E5 =EA=EB=E8=E5= =ED=F2=FB. =C2=E0=EC =ED=F3=E6=ED=EE =EE=EF=E5=F0=E0=F2=E8=E2=ED=EE =EF=F0=EE=E4=E0=F2= =FC =F1=E5=E7=EE=ED=ED=FB=E9 =F2=EE=E2=E0=F0? 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or Xboot Message-Id: <20161226132238.15c40d7d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1482694502.371338.829363393.0D87C11B@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1482694502.371338.829363393.0D87C11B@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with 5B2816A35D4 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.3575 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 12:23:31 -0000 On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 20:35:02 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > 1.buyed sandisk 16 gb ultrafit, Yumi for freebsd 11+solaris 11.3 ? or > Xboot=20 For installation media, this should be okay. FreeBSD does not require more than 5 GB on the installation media. > 2.https://www.freebsd.org/where.html#download >=20 > suspect to author situation related SD Card Images =20 > must be downloaded all files ? You only need to install the image file corresponding to the system you want to install to, usually deciding between the 32 bit (called i386) and the 64 bit (called amd64) version (which should be the standard today). To install from USB, use the installer image and write it to the USB stick you want to install from. The 11.0-RELEASE 64 bit images are located here: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/11.0/ You'd select FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-amd64-mini-memstick.img for use with an USB stick. > ... to date performed without help and without root sudo su=20 > installation of NRL tor in user account=20 >=20 > it is work=20 > https://www.torproject.org/ You can use TOR with FreeBSD, no problem. > but only limited graphics as in=20 > http://www.sandia.gov/RADAR/video/index.html > http://www.sandia.gov/RADAR/_assets/videos/eubankgateandtrafficvideosar.m= p4 Modern browsers such as Firefox and Chrome should play video without any problem. On some sites, "Flash" may be needed. Regarding graphics: Identify the graphics unit in your system and install the appropriate driver; it's usually one of Intel, AMD/ATI, or nVivia. More information here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics > no yotube =20 As I said, "YouTube" should work fine with Firefox and Chrome without "Flash". Also keep in mind there's youtube-dl, a program that lets you download "YouTube" video and play it with your favorite media player, whenever you want, offline. ;-) Example from above: % wget http://www.sandia.gov/RADAR/_assets/videos/eubankgateandtrafficvideo= sar.mp4 % mplayer eubankgateandtrafficvideosar.mp4 This doesn't even need a web browser. All you need in this specific case is to install wget and mplayer. > and not software of author demand What software would that be? Always remember that FreeBSD does not install software automatically "just in case". You have to install it yourself, using the pkg tool, usually just "pkg install ". THe Ports Collection offers several 10,000s of ported applications, and you can also run software written for Linux and "Windows" without having to use those systems. > as tails https://tails.boum.org/ related to tor can expect equal > result... Tails is an excellent Linux distribution for safe browsing, especially the version that can be booted directly from CD. Doesn't leave a trace. :-) Regading your other question "Is it safe to use Tails on a compromised system?" I'd say: no. In general: It depends on _how_ the system is compromized. For example, if there is already a hardware keylogger, or some creepy malware in the BIOS/UEFI component, it's more or less game over, and Tails won't help you much. However, if the system is compromized in software _only_, i. e. a "Windows" installation that is full of spyware, _not_ using that software, and instead booting Tails, is going to work. Especially when you can burn Tails to optical media, it adds some security because the OS and programs you're going to run cannot be changed. This is different when you boot from a USB stick, and maybe have that USB stick inserted to a compromized system that can change the stick's content. That's why a _trusted_ system is absolutely needed. On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 00:47:40 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > linux community more as freebsd solaris,linux as base sytem-more > risk >=20 > https://tails.boum.org/support/faq/index.de.html#compromised_system >=20 > Is it safe to use Tails on a compromised system? > Tails runs independently from the operating system installed on the > computer. So, if the computer has only been compromised by software, > running from inside your regular operating system (virus, trojan, etc.), > then it is safe to use Tails. This is true as long as Tails itself has > been installed using a trusted system. >=20 > If the computer has been compromised by someone having physical access > to it and who installed untrusted pieces of hardware, then it might be > unsafe to use Tails. >=20 > If the BIOS of the computer has been compromised, then it might also be > unsafe to use Tails. Fully correct. With Linux gaining more and more usage share, "evildoers" will also pay more attention to that platform and target it, of course. Luckily, Linux's design doesn't make it _that_ easy. But always remember that the weakest part of the security chain is the user, and as soon as you have some of today's modern installer concepts like "wget && ./install.sh" or =B2curl | sudo bash", it can also cause trouble. That's why a packaging system such as FreeBSD's adds security, because sofware isn't being downloaded arbitrarily from some web page, but instead obtained using a secure connection and verified with checksums, and of course managed centrally for the whole system. PS. You need to send questions to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list in order to obtain answers. Keep in mind there are users who may be able to help, and other readers could also gain knowledge from the conversation. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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This notification was sent by Mail Account Administration =96 All Rights Reserved! =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 26 16:01:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D240C91E51 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21A7514BB for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id uBQFwgfR008226; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:58:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: buyed sandisk 16 gb ultrafit, Yumi for freebsd 11+solaris 11.3 ? or Xboot To: Polytropon , swjatoslaw gerus References: <1482694502.371338.829363393.0D87C11B@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20161226132238.15c40d7d.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:58:42 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20161226132238.15c40d7d.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:01:28 -0000 On 2016-12-26 13:22, Polytropon wrote: > As I said, "YouTube" should work fine with Firefox and Chrome > without "Flash". Also keep in mind there's youtube-dl, a program > that lets you download "YouTube" video and play it with your > favorite media player, whenever you want, offline. ;-) > > Example from above: > > % wget http://www.sandia.gov/RADAR/_assets/videos/eubankgateandtrafficvideosar.mp4 > % mplayer eubankgateandtrafficvideosar.mp4 One could also use fetch from base. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 26 16:17:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887BBC912C8 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBDBD1CA0 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 17:18:03 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09CF63CC3F; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 17:16:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBQGG0Mp003349; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 17:16:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 17:16:00 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Bernt Hansson Cc: swjatoslaw gerus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buyed sandisk 16 gb ultrafit, Yumi for freebsd 11+solaris 11.3 ? or Xboot Message-Id: <20161226171600.0ed15d45.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <1482694502.371338.829363393.0D87C11B@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20161226132238.15c40d7d.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with 585ED683426 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2728 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:17:06 -0000 On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:58:42 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2016-12-26 13:22, Polytropon wrote: > > As I said, "YouTube" should work fine with Firefox and Chrome > > without "Flash". Also keep in mind there's youtube-dl, a program > > that lets you download "YouTube" video and play it with your > > favorite media player, whenever you want, offline. ;-) > > > > Example from above: > > > > % wget http://www.sandia.gov/RADAR/_assets/videos/eubankgateandtrafficvideosar.mp4 > > % mplayer eubankgateandtrafficvideosar.mp4 > One could also use fetch from base. Yes, I thought about that just after sending the message. :-) Additionally, if no persistent storage is desired, using % mplayer http://www.sandia.gov/RADAR/_assets/videos/eubankgateandtrafficvideosar.mp4 would also be an option. I have even seen this setup as the "Open with..." action for a web browser. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 26 18:16:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD453C91B21 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 18:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 857CD149C for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 18:16:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46F8206DA for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 13:16:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 26 Dec 2016 13:16:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=FaxBJ1VOWfLgwc17FydlQjqjbnk=; b=MweHjY0B+hMkGUG6fFf8m EPC0ZhqSTPHGwhITnrbNB0wZsXK3LqG1PLwRsCtqp0xYIVG9irJKiHE3t3FFdhj/ lDzH6uXLZTDw0otW1o+OTCl/m9BCn8CdWRACicUYwAMAfAhrB6GIwpHNVPHSiOQq DSFFal2qql2w37hFmujvMk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=FaxBJ1VOWfLgwc17FydlQjqjb nk=; b=S72pI9x2VcG1JLfOfsOK3yUzee+eIk+h8Pg/8+kw/fyEi2uvCZ8Za91lf QnrJE9dBms7kz+v3P7Id/HPLWA8mTPsIqxRybAi7oyJ9BEojYARxwt9CVFVqVaBF MBriluLkn72BZIdmiqTCYW8p9ZwxUbG04CSvXeMtd8C40ELlu0= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 9346E626D0; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 13:16:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482776194.628406.829896953.564B9A26@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-85983a1c Subject: installation fbsd via wlan ...step 2 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20161226132238.15c40d7d.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 19:16:34 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 18:16:41 -0000 Getlemen 1. dowloaded in ~/Downloading ubuntu 16.04.1 64 bit /Sony-vgn 31 2* 2.4 ghz 4GB/256 GB mini-mem and mem from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/11.0/ 2. What is second step ? sandisk ultrafit 16 gb new Which of file must be downloaded to usb ? mini-memo or memo ? which kind of command ?Which kind of installer -Yumi ? Xboot ? Relevant comment would appreciated -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: Polytropon < PS. You need to send questions to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list in order to obtain answers. Keep in mind there are users who may be able to help, and other readers could also gain knowledge from the conversation. -- Polytropon -- http://www.fastmail.com - mmm... Fastmail... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 26 20:17:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04700C91911 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 20:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8F011FD8 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 20:17:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE0E2085E for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 15:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 26 Dec 2016 15:17:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=q2Dvz5cZX9J4+PkWpxnqvIUL3+s=; b=Ex/zmu6umrCIK48t7AMhN 4/KpAeA9YqK45wCo+cSVaiICuStPghpApUUCkzAiJVKwWLU+7uOKj/dW8K74/bgM Hc+xTvcEHfyhj3i+um94z8AL1FLd+oiay4r6wVtKzogl/mu4wRgtza862/soY9LI 7jY8fZA25FijJR2xdKwLSg= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=q2Dvz5cZX9J4+PkWpxnqvIUL3 +s=; b=swmnwG/ZShwo79xfrOW5w0wrhofc/69tKyLel9Enel7Y5r6jvM5BrrkrU cpcVKwlnK6ZiMEvuw+jmSkYWmf+VEZ1wcKNjOueb6N6ZhlHS8RPUohG48U9QmOGL bpBhEQ/7+oaavxMd4aFAqdK8tGJr2gfGyGDso2HIZmdaZdpVLE= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 3B2DC626D0; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 15:17:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482783426.650367.829967833.43A13BD2@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-85983a1c Subject: more detail installation fbsd via wlan ...step 2 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 21:17:06 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 20:17:08 -0000 Getlemen 1. dowloaded in ~/Downloading ubuntu 16.04.1 64 bit /Sony-vgn 31 2* 2.4 ghz 4GB/256 GB mini-mem and mem from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/11.0/ 2. What is second step ?=20=20 sandisk ultrafit 16 gb new=20=20 ------------------------------------- fdisk -l=20=20 ..... dev/sdb1 W95 FAT32=20=20 Which of file must be downloaded to usb ? mini-memo or memo ? which kind of command ?Which kind of installer -Yumi ? Xboot ? Relevant comment would appreciated ---------------------------------------------------------- was by publication # dd if=3DFreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=3D/dev/da0 bs=3D1M conv=3Dsync https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-pre.h= tml must be by author -------------------------- dd if=3DFreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=3D/dev/sdb1 bs=3D1M conv=3Dsync ? Or ?=20=20 ########################################### memstick.img: This file contains all of the files needed to install FreeBSD, its source, and the Ports Collection. It should be burned to a USB stick using the instructions below. -mini-memstick.img: Like -bootonly.iso, does not include installation files, but downloads them as needed. A working internet connection is required during installation. Write this file to a USB stick as shown in Section 2.3.1.1, =E2=80=9CWriting an Image File to USB=E2=80=9D. After downloading the image file, download CHECKSUM.SHA256 from the same directory. Calculate a checksum for the image file. FreeBSD provides sha256(1) for this, used as sha256 imagefilename. Other operating systems have similar programs. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-pre.h= tml --=20 swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: Polytropon < PS. You need to send questions to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list in order to obtain answers. Keep in mind there are users who may be able to help, and other readers could also gain knowledge from the conversation. --=20 Polytropon --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - mmm... Fastmail... --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. 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[24.131.227.67]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s11sm13515765qte.28.2016.12.26.12.50.07 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 26 Dec 2016 12:50:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by lifeofadishwasher.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 26 Dec 2016 15:50:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 15:50:06 -0500 From: Derek Schrock To: Doug McIntyre Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mandoc.db keeps changing in 11.0-RELEASE? Message-ID: <20161226205006.GA1428@ircbsd.lifeofadishwasher.com> Mail-Followup-To: Doug McIntyre , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20161222055329.GA81847@geeks.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20161222055329.GA81847@geeks.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 20:50:10 -0000 On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:53:29AM EST, Doug McIntyre wrote: > I've seen this happen on several FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE systems I run. > > I have 'freebsd-update cron' running each night. > > And from time to time, I'll get a whole slew of notices about mandoc.db > changing. Ie. this system is already at 11.0-RELEASE-p5.. > $ freebsd-version > 11.0-RELEASE-p5 > > And for a notice I get via email.. > > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. > Fetching metadata signature for 11.0-RELEASE from update.FreeBSD.org... done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Inspecting system... done. > Preparing to download files... done. > > The following files will be updated as part of updating to 11.0-RELEASE-p5: > /usr/share/man/mandoc.db > /usr/share/openssl/man/mandoc.db > > And of course, I could ignore it, and each night it'll bug me, or I can > update it with 'freebsd-update install', and the notice goes away. > > So, what's up with the 11.0 build process that mandoc.db keeps getting > touched or whatever it is? > > This happens on most of my 11.0-RELEASE machines from time to time. https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=213762 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 26 21:00:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0F5C9269C for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 21:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6DC91829 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 21:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CFE20A5E for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:00:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:00:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=JochyKMGReHBqlwkhDoI/7gDOOc=; b=bBqysGNE9tlqN66v12QUb jqDCmBejo+uz4lphe9huIIZzdKp7C8iiPcBgHEO3UgXnwB+eraKRx0T7okFrkDDo YaJTkEQXR41aCfm+j1ku5QhDIbxczg8yjusQOlt0CAIXC/pfs/TqGbCvTtOIZJL0 PxL6CyaPb8J78noiEzhjdE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=JochyKMGReHBqlwkhDoI/7gDO Oc=; b=LK8WK9cPEtZ2c/zg4Ca3oHN6w8qdI178o9BzIl+n0MrgY4rcJDMMUECf9 /275UCEPxBi8CtWHvaQgC9TrN/zQ7H+5D09w6D5VCyUD6ZwxLxQK94rVyjx2aq2i K3Q8+35OuxLzDWUvIrjQqxbW5SxfagrPp81foNJZZBh1ly68Zs= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 8BC57626D0; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:00:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482786006.1375907.829986065.16978757@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-85983a1c X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1482783426.650367.829967833.43A13BD2@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 22:00:06 +0100 Subject: comparsion with solaris 11.3 guide/Fwd: more detail installation fbsd via wlan ...step 2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 21:00:08 -0000 comparsion with solaris 11.3 guide/ You can copy the downloaded image to removable media, such as a USB drive or burn it to a DVD. USB images require the usbcopy utility to copy the bootable ISO image to a USB flash drive. In this release, USB installation media is also available for SPARC platforms. To use the usbcopy utility, first install the pkg:/install/distribution-constructor package.=20 https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E53394_01/html/E54838/glmzx.html ###################### x86: Setting Up Partitions During an Interactive Installation https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E53394_01/html/E54756/partsys.html#IOSUIpartsys ############# : What options are available to install Oracle Solaris 11 without access to a CD or DVD drive? A: Oracle Solaris 11 can be installed through the network using the automated installer or directly using USB bootable media. http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/documentation/so= laris-11-3-faqs-2489291.pdf ############## USB images must be transferred to a USB flash drive. See the Oracle Solaris 11.3 FAQ to learn how to use either dd(1) or usbcopy(1) to accomplish this. http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/downloads/instal= l-2245079.html ------------------ not found in this pdf any statement about dd or usbcopy ################################################# --=20 swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: more detail installation fbsd via wlan ...step 2 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 21:17:06 +0100 Getlemen 1. dowloaded in ~/Downloading ubuntu 16.04.1 64 bit /Sony-vgn 31 2* 2.4 ghz 4GB/256 GB mini-mem and mem from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/11.0/ 2. What is second step ?=20=20 sandisk ultrafit 16 gb new=20=20 ------------------------------------- fdisk -l=20=20 ..... dev/sdb1 W95 FAT32=20=20 Which of file must be downloaded to usb ? mini-memo or memo ? which kind of command ?Which kind of installer -Yumi ? Xboot ? Relevant comment would appreciated ---------------------------------------------------------- was by publication # dd if=3DFreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=3D/dev/da0 bs=3D1M conv=3Dsync https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-pre.h= tml must be by author -------------------------- dd if=3DFreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=3D/dev/sdb1 bs=3D1M conv=3Dsync ? Or ?=20=20 ########################################### memstick.img: This file contains all of the files needed to install FreeBSD, its source, and the Ports Collection. It should be burned to a USB stick using the instructions below. -mini-memstick.img: Like -bootonly.iso, does not include installation files, but downloads them as needed. A working internet connection is required during installation. Write this file to a USB stick as shown in Section 2.3.1.1, =E2=80=9CWriting an Image File to USB=E2=80=9D. After downloading the image file, download CHECKSUM.SHA256 from the same directory. Calculate a checksum for the image file. FreeBSD provides sha256(1) for this, used as sha256 imagefilename. Other operating systems have similar programs. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-pre.h= tml --=20 swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: Polytropon < PS. You need to send questions to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list in order to obtain answers. Keep in mind there are users who may be able to help, and other readers could also gain knowledge from the conversation. --=20 Polytropon --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - mmm... Fastmail... --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 26 22:17:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9330C9181A for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 22:17:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@erwanlegrand.com) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 850911C06 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 22:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@erwanlegrand.com) Received: from mfilter41-d.gandi.net (mfilter41-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.173]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A808BA80C2 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 23:16:52 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter41-d.gandi.net Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.195]) by mfilter41-d.gandi.net (mfilter41-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rLikJTdTeL2a for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 23:16:51 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 209.85.216.178 Received: from mail-qt0-f178.google.com (mail-qt0-f178.google.com [209.85.216.178]) (Authenticated sender: moi@erwan.legrand.name) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E67F4A80C6 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 23:16:50 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-qt0-f178.google.com with SMTP id k15so76367201qtg.3 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 14:16:50 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKjsXcXoJVc8t77jVHme1JCmq3sVrZwb5CC86VZwCLqT9orikG2OAvRIPsfmw8s13mdTj7B3sxfU49FvA== X-Received: by 10.200.0.132 with SMTP id c4mr26940474qtg.44.1482790609749; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 14:16:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.55.100.150 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 14:16:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1482519286.774978322.bvtkg7zq@frv34.fwdcdn.com> References: <1482008447.788498772.101qcjaz@frv34.fwdcdn.com> <1482519286.774978322.bvtkg7zq@frv34.fwdcdn.com> From: Erwan Legrand Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 23:16:49 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re[2]: ZFS mount fails after upgrade to 11.0 To: Vladislav Prodan Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 22:17:01 -0000 On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Vladislav Prodan wrote: > Sorry for the unhurried response. No worries! > Please show output: > > zfs list > gpart show > camcontrol devlist > diskinfo -v /dev/diskid/DISK-Z1E7725Jp2 > diskinfo -v /dev/diskid/DISK-Z1E75J4Kp2 I have installed FreeBSD 11 on a spare disk. I can mount my old pool with "-o altroot=/mnt" without any trouble. But for some reason, /dev/diskid is gone. I wonder why it is so and I want it back. In the following output the spare disk I have installed FreeBSD 11 on is "ada0" and "zroot" is a new pool. "tank" is my old pool, which is mirrored on "ada1" and "ada2". I plan to move my data to the new pool and then remove the disks one by one from the old pool to add them to the new. The freebsd-boot partitions on these disk are too small nowadays anyway. Thus, repartitioning them sounds like a good idea. Thanks, Erwan # zfs list NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT tank 256G 1.51T 18K none tank/root 351M 1.51T 297M /mnt tank/swap 4.26G 1.51T 138M - tank/tmp 114K 1.51T 102K /mnt/tmp tank/usr 242G 1.51T 237G /mnt/usr tank/var 9.26G 1.51T 9.26G /mnt/var zroot 226G 673G 96K /zroot zroot/ROOT 759M 673G 96K none zroot/ROOT/default 759M 673G 759M / zroot/tmp 116K 673G 116K /tmp zroot/usr 225G 673G 96K /usr zroot/usr/home 225G 673G 225G /usr/home zroot/usr/ports 96K 673G 96K /usr/ports zroot/usr/src 96K 673G 96K /usr/src zroot/var 644K 673G 96K /var zroot/var/audit 96K 673G 96K /var/audit zroot/var/crash 96K 673G 96K /var/crash zroot/var/log 164K 673G 164K /var/log zroot/var/mail 96K 673G 96K /var/mail zroot/var/tmp 96K 673G 96K /var/tmp # gpart show => 40 1953525088 ada0 GPT (932G) 40 1024 1 freebsd-boot (512K) 1064 984 - free - (492K) 2048 4194304 2 freebsd-swap (2.0G) 4196352 1949327360 3 freebsd-zfs (930G) 1953523712 1416 - free - (708K) => 34 3907029101 ada1 GPT (1.8T) 34 6 - free - (3.0K) 40 128 1 freebsd-boot (64K) 168 3907028960 2 freebsd-zfs (1.8T) 3907029128 7 - free - (3.5K) => 34 3907029101 ada2 GPT (1.8T) 34 6 - free - (3.0K) 40 128 1 freebsd-boot (64K) 168 3907028960 2 freebsd-zfs (1.8T) 3907029128 7 - free - (3.5K) # camcontrol devlist at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,ada0) at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass1,ada1) at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass2,ada2) at scbus4 target 0 lun 0 (pass3,ses0) # diskinfo -v /dev/diskid/DISK-Z1E7725Jp2 diskinfo: /dev/diskid/DISK-Z1E7725Jp2: No such file or directory # diskinfo -v /dev/diskid/DISK-Z1E75J4Kp2 diskinfo: /dev/diskid/DISK-Z1E75J4Kp2: No such file or directory # ls /dev/diskid ls: /dev/diskid: No such file or directory # diskinfo -v /dev/ada1 /dev/ada1 512 # sectorsize 2000398934016 # mediasize in bytes (1.8T) 3907029168 # mediasize in sectors 4096 # stripesize 0 # stripeoffset 3876021 # Cylinders according to firmware. 16 # Heads according to firmware. 63 # Sectors according to firmware. Z1E75J4K # Disk ident. Not_Zoned # Zone Mode # diskinfo -v /dev/ada2 /dev/ada2 512 # sectorsize 2000398934016 # mediasize in bytes (1.8T) 3907029168 # mediasize in sectors 4096 # stripesize 0 # stripeoffset 3876021 # Cylinders according to firmware. 16 # Heads according to firmware. 63 # Sectors according to firmware. Z1E7725J # Disk ident. Not_Zoned # Zone Mode # zpool status pool: tank state: ONLINE status: One or more devices are configured to use a non-native block size. Expect reduced performance. action: Replace affected devices with devices that support the configured block size, or migrate data to a properly configured pool. scan: resilvered 13.5K in 0h0m with 0 errors on Mon Dec 26 02:07:35 2016 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 ada1p2 ONLINE 0 0 0 block size: 512B configured, 4096B native ada2p2 ONLINE 0 0 0 block size: 512B configured, 4096B native errors: No known data errors pool: zroot state: ONLINE scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zroot ONLINE 0 0 0 ada0p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors # From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 26 22:28:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59B4C91BEC for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 22:28:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bancarias.26@tuempresaactualizada.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DC710FC for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 22:28:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bancarias.26@tuempresaactualizada.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id A1C49C91BEB; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 22:28:49 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1653C91BEA for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 22:28:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bancarias.26@tuempresaactualizada.com) Received: from mail3.tuempresaactualizada.com (mail3.tuempresaactualizada.com [107.150.32.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8243010FB for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 22:28:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bancarias.26@tuempresaactualizada.com) Received: from WIN-JL967LLBK95 (107.150.32.196) by mail3.tuempresaactualizada.com id hc6cpo0our0b for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:28:41 -0600 (envelope-from ) X-client: emp0019063 Message-ID: <3e5531f4489111e853e785f20016b2b2@tuempresaactualizada.com> From: "Embargo de Cuentas Bancarias" To: Subject: Evite Situaciones de Riesgo en su Empresa. Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 16:28:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 22:28:49 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 26 23:27:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4E3C928F3 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 23:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3024180F for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 23:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093B620862 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 18:27:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 26 Dec 2016 18:27:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=wLxrUWlOXDrMGHLdk92kLOLb98c=; b=Pt3KSECYSXy1/X07ePN05 +kH6iqIKZjp8dqcbq22vD3Z078mZ8V3Nd6cuZCP9rPJiQocL3gsju1ENsYdbb/SE 0jLtDvr2pXgL6WNXpCZDQGTTzdGceXYRN7IlGEv2S6CeB0Mi+4JgviIb59o48Wk4 HhDG+gmNCo3fz5wHrxzmOA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=wLxrUWlOXDrMGHLdk92kLOLb9 8c=; b=AyGGgdRflCzPshQ/SSFgtiKnBWLR5GlBQbMtwMv9CEPAEU5XMuMItyEt/ cOrzPUJ25ZBKGO2mlWcxZzu6gCXXw90yCpSygnTOLEAPoUIS2pdar1rrGRlH4dBj j7xZtRxwShAbwR9JoKkABunbq0d8ynZQ5MZdddKR5z7zoxzRb4= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id DC07C626D0; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 18:27:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482794824.1401381.830063673.10F55ED4@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-85983a1c Subject: Fwd: what is comporable by freebsd 11 ? The Live Media contains software that is more appropriate for a desktop or laptop. X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1482794744.1401298.830063169.5F7CF7DD@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 00:27:04 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 23:27:07 -0000 -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Bernt Hansson Subject: what is comporable by freebsd 11 ? The Live Media contains software that is more appropriate for a desktop or laptop. Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 00:25:44 +0100 1.x86: Live Media https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/E24456/glmzx.html The installer on the Live Media ISO image is for x86 platforms only. The Live Media contains software that is more appropriate for a desktop or laptop. ------------- that is possible suited for author.Single intensive user on single notebook limited amount of application,only wlan 2.4 ghz+ 5.3ghz and umts .No demand for desktop environment (libre ,icon,news &) ----------------------------------- only window manager-Compiz or another 1.start must be possible in 3 mode 1-tty,2- limited graphics with onboard display( case of corrupt keyboard and worst network conditions- watch -n1 iwconfig signal level -change from -49 dbm untill-84 dbm) ,3 -full functionality 2.with power on must be started - a.2 x11,one for work,second with watch -n1 iwconfig b. application software ,which downloaded before must start conection with company-service provider what is comporable by freebsd 11 ? ---------------------------------------------- The text installation media contains a set of software that is more appropriate for a general-purpose server. https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/E24456/glmzx.html ####################### author -no demand If you are installing on x86 platforms that will run multiple operating systems, you can partition your disk during the installation process. See Partitioning Your System in Installing Oracle Solaris 11 Systems. yes ,if that possible -expect problems with drivers ,must compare both freebsd a solaris if great complication ((multiple instruction about grub&),ready download only freebsd Wish good Mood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxibMBV3nFo -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web -- http://www.fastmail.com - mmm... Fastmail... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 00:31:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E123C9061F for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 00:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7C091CD4 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 00:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34AE420A40 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 19:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 26 Dec 2016 19:31:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=i/BQ7pYfxJpa36l1zHAJeLIuwpY=; b=pJGY1m9h/KPpNbJlqlxoP w6I2tRqxviD1U4tFOTsHnXjaziBi71bTWdZYyCeqmyaPUJ8UfHrXP2NypShcz0dB IxStrar3FHlVLhCY/J1n3LetASrQvfKE6IKMr/AFYoeXecHSTr+bgKHA4nYTVN5p WSev9sf3BZDK2IzfVTXb1I= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=i/BQ7pYfxJpa36l1zHAJeLIuw pY=; b=g5p2lW42ww637i7pVeRU0kBSAQ46opsulwasBNnKPk4ZF35DEZnFlOg/j VmSKb0N9pZUfl05tAs8J59zfvejj2+2ynDJYrTKBBrJ5by+XukY598NgBFzEqivu YVkK/kCydV/rdBsfKKaceLL/oyNVhL6Exk4kWhLIW/okQgbsts= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 009C1626D0; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 19:31:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482798673.1412840.830092033.15EDE4BB@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-85983a1c Subject: Fwd: author found more related site pcbsd Fwd: what is comporable by freebsd 11 ? The Live Media contains software that is more appropriate for a desktop or laptop. Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 01:31:13 +0100 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1482798613.1412298.830090121.5A6CADB8@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 00:31:16 -0000 -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: bah@bananmonarki.se Subject: author found more related site pcbsd Fwd: what is comporable by freebsd 11 ? The Live Media contains software that is more appropriate for a desktop or laptop. Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 01:30:13 +0100 author found more related site pcbsd http://web.pcbsd.org/development/morepcbsd/ is it correct ? site adressed single user,single notebook caravan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkLBSLxo5LE -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Bernt Hansson Subject: what is comporable by freebsd 11 ? The Live Media contains software that is more appropriate for a desktop or laptop. Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 00:25:44 +0100 1.x86: Live Media https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/E24456/glmzx.html The installer on the Live Media ISO image is for x86 platforms only. The Live Media contains software that is more appropriate for a desktop or laptop. ------------- that is possible suited for author.Single intensive user on single notebook limited amount of application,only wlan 2.4 ghz+ 5.3ghz and umts .No demand for desktop environment (libre ,icon,news &) ----------------------------------- only window manager-Compiz or another 1.start must be possible in 3 mode 1-tty,2- limited graphics with onboard display( case of corrupt keyboard and worst network conditions- watch -n1 iwconfig signal level -change from -49 dbm untill-84 dbm) ,3 -full functionality 2.with power on must be started - a.2 x11,one for work,second with watch -n1 iwconfig b. application software ,which downloaded before must start conection with company-service provider what is comporable by freebsd 11 ? ---------------------------------------------- The text installation media contains a set of software that is more appropriate for a general-purpose server. https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/E24456/glmzx.html ####################### author -no demand If you are installing on x86 platforms that will run multiple operating systems, you can partition your disk during the installation process. See Partitioning Your System in Installing Oracle Solaris 11 Systems. yes ,if that possible -expect problems with drivers ,must compare both freebsd a solaris if great complication ((multiple instruction about grub&),ready download only freebsd Wish good Mood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxibMBV3nFo -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web -- http://www.fastmail.com - The professional email service -- http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 04:13:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D132BC8786F for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 04:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C152A13B5 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 04:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2016 20:02:52 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David Christensen Subject: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 20:02:52 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 04:13:12 -0000 freebsd-questions: I have a machine running FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM, and XFCE: 2016-12-26 19:48:26 dpchrist@t7400 ~ $ freebsd-version 11.0-RELEASE-p1 2016-12-26 19:48:42 dpchrist@t7400 ~ $ uname -a FreeBSD t7400 11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 r306420: Thu Sep 29 03:40:55 UTC 2016 root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 2016-12-26 19:48:44 dpchrist@t7400 ~ $ pkg info xdm | grep -i version Version : 1.1.11_6 2016-12-26 19:48:51 dpchrist@t7400 ~ $ pkg info xfce | grep -i version Version : 4.12_1 I installed Xorg per the handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html However, I was unable to figure out how to exit TWM -- left-clicking on desktop and choosing Exit caused the windows to go blank and mouse clicks to no longer do anything. I had to ssh in from another machine and kill the xinit process. I then installed XFCE per the Handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html 2016-12-26 19:48:55 dpchrist@t7400 ~ $ cat .xinitrc exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 --with-ck-launch 2016-12-26 19:53:46 dpchrist@t7400 ~ $ cat .xsession #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 --with-ck-launch I was able to start Xfce via 'startx'. Choosing Mouse -> Log out brought me back to the shell. I then installed XDM per the Handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-xdm.html After rebooting, XDM comes up, I can log in, XFCE works, and log out returns me to XDM. How do I enable GUI Shutdown and Restart capabilities in both XDM and XFCE? TIA, David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 04:36:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41221C924EB for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 04:36:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from universite@ukr.net) Received: from frv197.fwdcdn.com (frv197.fwdcdn.com [212.42.77.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0336E1D54 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 04:36:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from universite@ukr.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ukr.net; s=ffe; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References: In-Reply-To:Message-Id:To:Subject:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=QlhL7a4j6336qwXdXG3OWDS+93x9vcQc+rtKiRJlqfM=; b=gFApGD2Zzw4RufwRG+bd/9g7Q3 +Qaa/mw6KBFdIFMF3LwD+/+9ucYU895bQfHG1Atf8+MSHTuN19gtJ/hRjafbNUp/88EQ0fX8fexaO gmsgw5K6+1Jnonib45U984zjIy327Bm5m30waKMcXH1+NL6joqLsICz4MMxHcNki9xy8=; Received: from [10.10.10.34] (helo=frv34.fwdcdn.com) by frv197.fwdcdn.com with smtp ID 1cLjUr-000F21-E2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 06:36:21 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 06:36:21 +0200 From: Vladislav Prodan Subject: Re[2]: Re[2]: ZFS mount fails after upgrade to 11.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: mail.ukr.net 5.0 Message-Id: <1482812892.100169697.kol6idos@frv34.fwdcdn.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1482008447.788498772.101qcjaz@frv34.fwdcdn.com> <1482519286.774978322.bvtkg7zq@frv34.fwdcdn.com> X-Reply-Action: reply Received: from universite@ukr.net by frv34.fwdcdn.com; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 06:36:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 04:36:31 -0000 --- Original message --- From: "Erwan Legrand" Date: 27 December 2016, 00:17:14 > On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Vladislav Prodan wrote: > > Sorry for the unhurried response. > > No worries! > > > Please show output: > > > > zfs list > > gpart show > > camcontrol devlist > > diskinfo -v /dev/diskid/DISK-Z1E7725Jp2 > > diskinfo -v /dev/diskid/DISK-Z1E75J4Kp2 > > I have installed FreeBSD 11 on a spare disk. I can mount my old pool > with "-o altroot=/mnt" without any trouble. But for some reason, > /dev/diskid is gone. I wonder why it is so and I want it back. For inclusion option diskid (/dev/diskid) meets the variable kern.geom.label.disk_ident.enable=1 (in /boot/loader.conf) While I prefer to use gpart label. > > In the following output the spare disk I have installed FreeBSD 11 on > is "ada0" and "zroot" is a new pool. "tank" is my old pool, which is > mirrored on "ada1" and "ada2". I plan to move my data to the new pool > and then remove the disks one by one from the old pool to add them to > the new. The freebsd-boot partitions on these disk are too small > nowadays anyway. Thus, repartitioning them sounds like a good idea. Good idea. You then make the correct pool of HDD with 4KB sectorsize. > # gpart show > => 40 1953525088 ada0 GPT (932G) > 40 1024 1 freebsd-boot (512K) > 1064 984 - free - (492K) > 2048 4194304 2 freebsd-swap (2.0G) > 4196352 1949327360 3 freebsd-zfs (930G) > 1953523712 1416 - free - (708K) > > => 34 3907029101 ada1 GPT (1.8T) > 34 6 - free - (3.0K) > 40 128 1 freebsd-boot (64K) > 168 3907028960 2 freebsd-zfs (1.8T) > 3907029128 7 - free - (3.5K) > > => 34 3907029101 ada2 GPT (1.8T) > 34 6 - free - (3.0K) > 40 128 1 freebsd-boot (64K) > 168 3907028960 2 freebsd-zfs (1.8T) > 3907029128 7 - free - (3.5K) > # diskinfo -v /dev/ada1 > /dev/ada1 > 512 # sectorsize > 2000398934016 # mediasize in bytes (1.8T) > 3907029168 # mediasize in sectors > 4096 # stripesize > 0 # stripeoffset > 3876021 # Cylinders according to firmware. > 16 # Heads according to firmware. > 63 # Sectors according to firmware. > Z1E75J4K # Disk ident. > Not_Zoned # Zone Mode > > # diskinfo -v /dev/ada2 > /dev/ada2 > 512 # sectorsize > 2000398934016 # mediasize in bytes (1.8T) > 3907029168 # mediasize in sectors > 4096 # stripesize > 0 # stripeoffset > 3876021 # Cylinders according to firmware. > 16 # Heads according to firmware. > 63 # Sectors according to firmware. > Z1E7725J # Disk ident. > Not_Zoned # Zone Mode > > # zpool status > pool: tank > state: ONLINE > status: One or more devices are configured to use a non-native block size. > Expect reduced performance. > action: Replace affected devices with devices that support the > configured block size, or migrate data to a properly configured > pool. > scan: resilvered 13.5K in 0h0m with 0 errors on Mon Dec 26 02:07:35 2016 > config: > > NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM > tank ONLINE 0 0 0 > mirror-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 > ada1p2 ONLINE 0 0 0 block size: 512B > configured, 4096B native > ada2p2 ONLINE 0 0 0 block size: 512B > configured, 4096B native > > errors: No known data errors > -- Vladislav V. Prodan System & Network Administrator support.od.ua From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 10:08:34 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0911C8F8AE for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 10:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7BAC13DC for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 10:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id C066820B2D for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 05:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 27 Dec 2016 05:08:32 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=KYjmy3bA/AaWqsObJRwCUQx9KgQ=; b=ECiFfBjcbeArQE/5C4hhk uRpeAMKcrfJ4OqcYZ1ICcLHkDp71fedJ9+BtkpWhG3Ksr+v7jUHCjCCOCJDMmlhT cE1KowBOnbARgyJVNwEfjqKEhI9Wf9V7Ff2sjpCaOkyMHn3EghhYEqdIfL3JZket uYUBpBHTbMv20A9sPecMP0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=KYjmy3bA/AaWqsObJRwCUQx9K gQ=; b=FKM14Y0cpW2yRRrmS2gtu6HoteFXAomcaBEA817yvSnXWvC7xYf2KzugP Jy/7qsHvs+pNSMEOx00Am85k70M0LsvXiqs4IhZCf1zBQXMBHje8q28ITf5PATYo SRIk0CMu+ZEQNVy04aPRME6mfnLsEqKykeuGNcDwlqwVfJ4/PU= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 971439EDD0; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 05:08:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482833312.511657.830329041.060ABCCB@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-85983a1c Subject: Fwd: grub-istall /dev/hda0 - ... 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Fastmail... -- http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 10:26:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F41C93280 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 10:26:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8255C12A5 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 10:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5F12062F for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 05:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 27 Dec 2016 05:26:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=lgJsJiMfSq7wyW5y4j7r1xFVsbU=; b=poMjSJt6KTcclAXnFReY4 bgPp3K4pwFXOSAUWRPNyW2GKMh/QKL2W2R0voUoezi37+cHQ38byjYAjVE5srDuj t3n3E4A8IMcu93YzQ7+Gbv9DDtwrmfua8xvYAeAOinFU+7/orpO9ecj0qQr7RW/Y dcEb9R+FWPfb/4XI4TMoWA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=lgJsJiMfSq7wyW5y4j7r1xFVs bU=; b=bQBLym7qeuNl1lmsFsIOxUzpBHWcOcqDM42HnbIdJyEpXrKbu/FS/2R0b D0XWJkTEb2E78Y4rw34czZJ+lNgbVXVvwfIR5j7p97lfSi2nfD/5euVbS0EDLbl4 2RN+wsuBiFr/aXZGJI/3coghnsab7LGKhiCWcyyBtfT36OmZj0= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 686C29EDD0; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 05:26:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482834403.515659.830337865.534A1B69@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-85983a1c Subject: Need not dowloading grub for freebsd installation ? (have to date two Linux 16.04 32 bit and 64 bit) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 11:26:43 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 10:26:45 -0000 Author have to date 2 istallation of Ubuntu 16.04 32 bit ad 64 bit from two sysadm (student internet caffe) , both are with multiple errors Checked screenshot -grub is present ? Need not dowloading grub for freebsd installation ? Or need another grub ? Which ? -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc -- http://www.fastmail.com - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 10:38:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E13C937D9 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 10:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay11.qsc.de (mailrelay11.qsc.de [212.99.187.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE0A81C98 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 10:38:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay11.qsc.de; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 11:41:05 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 553C13CC3F; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 11:38:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBRAcTKQ002317; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 11:38:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 11:38:29 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need not dowloading grub for freebsd installation ? (have to date two Linux 16.04 32 bit and 64 bit) Message-Id: <20161227113829.abac1494.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1482834403.515659.830337865.534A1B69@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1482834403.515659.830337865.534A1B69@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay11.qsc.de with 183C46A3533 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2255 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 10:38:41 -0000 On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 11:26:43 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Author have to date 2 istallation of Ubuntu 16.04 32 bit ad 64 bit > from two sysadm (student internet caffe) , both are with multiple > errors That doesn't sound good. :-/ If your system is capable of running a 64 bit OS, there is hardly a reason to run a 32 bit OS on it (except you _really_ need to run software that will be available on a 32 bit OS exclusively). So it's common to try 64 bit first, especially when you're using hardware that's not older than 5 years. With modern Linux distributions, you can start the OS from USB or optical media (live system CDs and DVDs) and try them out _before_ you install (i. e., no changes to the hard disk's content is made). > Need not dowloading grub for freebsd installation ? You don't need GRUB to boot FreeBSD, because it comes with its own boot loader. You basically have the following options: a) use the normal boot loader with boots FreeBSD b) use the FreeBSD boot manager if you have multiple operating systems on one hard drive. There are few restrictions originating in the BIOS vs. UEFI problem, though. For a sinle OS installation, the normal boot loader will work fine on both kinds of system. Before you install, you can check how the installation process will be, using the online documentation: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall.html > Or need another grub ? Which ? GRUB is quite handy if you want to have FreeBSD and Linux on the same hard drive, but it isn't essentially required, if I remember correctly. (I haven't done multi-boot for many years now.) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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It should be burned to a USB stick using the instructions below. -mini-memstick.img: Like -bootonly.iso, does not include installation files, but downloads them as needed. A working internet connection is required during installation. Write this file to a USB stick as shown in Section 2.3.1.1, =E2=80=9CWriting an Image File to USB=E2=80=9D. After downloading the image file, download CHECKSUM.SHA256 from the same directory. Calculate a checksum for the image file. FreeBSD provides sha256(1) for this, used as sha256 imagefilename. Other operating systems have similar programs. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-pre.h= tml --=20 swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: Polytropon < PS. You need to send questions to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list in order to obtain answers. 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If freebsd would work from start ,all linux would deleted To date both linux 32 ad 64 work worst ... near dead ,but author can use for he's application in version linux -browser -limited graphics If experienced freebsd or solaris person would say - Delete that (both linux) ,free bsd or solaris would installed in 3 days all - x11,wine+application,wlan would work -author would delete -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc -- http://www.fastmail.com - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 13:04:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E59C92F75 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holindho@saunalahti.fi) Received: from vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi (vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi [193.64.193.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi", Issuer "vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57BCD1BD9 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holindho@saunalahti.fi) Received: from vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7F6200C1 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:57:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from gw02.mail.saunalahti.fi (gw02.mail.saunalahti.fi [195.197.172.116]) by vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74FFC200B9 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:57:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from scarecrow.local (62-78-248-13.bb.dnainternet.fi [62.78.248.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gw02.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 671AF40063 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:57:20 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <58626529.6000308@saunalahti.fi> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:57:13 +0200 From: Heikki Lindholm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; fi; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: system -invalid argument 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync References: <1482839506.750175.830376089.44208950@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <1482839506.750175.830376089.44208950@webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:04:48 -0000 Needs to be dd ... bs=1000000 Not every dd understands bs=1M 27.12.2016 13.51, swjatoslaw gerus kirjoitti: > dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M > conv=sync > > dd if=FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=1M > conv=sync > > system -invalid argument 1m > > > > swjatoslaw gerus > milstar2@eml.cc > > ----- Original message ----- > From: swjatoslaw gerus > To: freebsd@edvax.de > Subject: Fwd: more detail installation fbsd via wlan ...step 2 > Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 21:17:46 +0100 > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 13:43:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E67C93C37 for ; 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27 Dec 2016 13:41:10 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.79] by tm3.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2016 13:41:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2016 13:41:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 15754.36849.bm@smtp116.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: MZpMB5kVM1m_vAd7Di2HSut9FPKqfqZOTDBX7E4a1YNAdHa He0sQ4nJQjx09oDRLbqCJqDGcs7244XMrH3fQ0mFzu9LCPDaSoBR3G9YlpaH GNQmc9N_7NbtYgkaHawgv72iyFK4g4xMwPviHFtWjHS7UL_QfA5kp9fD32zv dOTnko0.glGa.0a.STFajD1FalMSf3jMyDSTD.O5mmPkSLOForIxN07xs7bz QzHTkXyTTz_IbVt5lj2FioaTHYssMHOlxwQunf_nLGZTZdr_PaQXpzLE4PlN Ku0jx32KS_wJtbIv4Rb59yjfCC5391fSC7GKGMbelMRu6aszc0geNC6Eoi2S PUivqkl3J7STnzvA3wCJEj_fpDtQe9LE9FfPBWshpNwzdco.n3Wd.gT0whT2 OQbqgqRA54H8pITD8taT9Kgc_EJExBT5Asq55.61nZd1PPIihQJKd9sRLQOe VHPqO.L5It63R6i6WxX1tWO3LcjzfjmS7JkYLLbyWHfaTzvIs0r7qPjPKRoJ MxUNwYjuCjdkNKyRyXEN1d.EIF4R5HnKPmGVbytVqrV44kizROkl1I.WHPWW 6uLBJErTdvu57zgrlul1gebVAbPHtaw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:41:08 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: . (I haven't done multi-boot for many years now.) Message-ID: <20161227144108.0549ddc4@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1482843641.1249140.830409137.185C7E32@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1482843641.1249140.830409137.185C7E32@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1-19-ge7206c0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:43:48 -0000 Hi, consider to install FreeBSD, but for a transition test period to temporarily multi-boot or at least to keep backups of the Linux installs. You could copy a complete Linux install or backup to an archive, while booted to another Linux install or using a Linux live media by a simple "cp -ai" or "tar --xattrs -czf" and if necessary simply restore it. A backups of MBRs not necessarily could restore a bootloader, but it doesn't harm to backup the MBR , assuming MBR is used by "dd if=/dev/??? of=mbr.bak bs=512 count=1". At least restoring an MBR by a systemd-nspawn (as a replacement for a chroot) from a live media is easy to do. Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 13:48:34 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DC7C93D7F for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm15-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm15-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.96.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21F551F96 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1482846331; bh=B3nLgWhwFu7u7xLIUhYuEoId+AvkRJhQk9EqTv23Ztk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=I7VT67KjOrFUKdYuYzThrbxGz7V9Cq60OO5TEFzmuHC8esngJCf4NzatOdhivIwpBcLgtHfDVjfb31d5PtPUmEuFb3TBoQqal6LG6nctiTi36UfPIeUePkHh9rw4T66l7cy6BwepqLZ/STc31u+vBYKhM6EnBxXXH0WSqVWuGdsIzL8oztqXjOJVn66yJpYosN4EoE3A5A7+A5sdpq5Yi3X8lcLKxvbIYPUUPiRAMZvQWU/Q/wNr62c7yPhGYUPuogqXOmCZ1r/YsTZ48BP5/4eqZLkFHNLlyJ8XOTN9Mv9ST7rPKLH4GezGusimiEdMEJ770TuUOrkx2ZphMcLSDA== Received: from [212.82.98.59] by nm15.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2016 13:45:31 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.96] by tm12.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2016 13:45:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp133.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Dec 2016 13:45:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 879490.43889.bm@smtp133.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Yw.l9dsVM1lWEVRx5L4t9EhwYi2g3ZdAp.pXUzaq2zU6Ixk kCK2E_EpjbQRje6zzdMefFx02pEuF_SB8Xv4t3OVMXRXbi9oyb4ce3j4AXkg _xdvk8vS80aGbXzvytbAJVL.KJeI0ZQ_t.rC1KfIb5pGx0PCTOtIn.MF5mo8 BF1a0yP3gyVhV8PHlJg1xVRCvrkkMNob.huqtCPJ2PiQW5piEIAxpEuIQwm7 _teRgsWkwynj85WTyIdS5cZe7aJ.U8Rcyx7leWVN9uFYALZ22sO5sSTlRj7U YZkWju99oAox.nzeiuXZ_hDqI1IzBTdm3w_w8tetCoGoR4xumkFO0NrINYLS sAOvxqs9mNq14AohnzdJaTrpnvlv7YasYFh9Nk_QLvQtPi7OleVDEy8h7PFF YXtjHkodXbWMuYzS_tUieSWJbjrqTVhrQm0Vt1oa6.Irn6Wp8WreOo452G3N Ss_gF7NKKbDS5QTzOYfHIyH9wROtG3Cr3SN9GlvzxgEOI6gtuSkaRpCI5utO KPLTIM9DeWoWa54UJ3jo.KERDI6XzHZywAZe7zibseJkJj2_U5OzTEIKMewZ _PWbsoXF93BJ1g35mR3Qpql5T4pJAuw-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:45:30 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: . (I haven't done multi-boot for many years now.) Message-ID: <20161227144530.7fe04d9e@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20161227144108.0549ddc4@archlinux.localdomain> References: <1482843641.1249140.830409137.185C7E32@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20161227144108.0549ddc4@archlinux.localdomain> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1-19-ge7206c0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:48:34 -0000 On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:41:08 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >At least restoring an MBR by a systemd-nspawn (as a replacement for a ^^^^^^ >chroot) from a live media is easy to do. Oops, this should read "Just in case a MBR backup shouldn't restore the bootloader, at least restoring the bootloader by a systemd-nspawn (as a replacement ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ for a chroot) from a live media is easy to do." 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If you have any question or request please don=92t hesitate to contact me d= irectly, and I will be glade to help you. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 15:00:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A95C91CC2 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 15:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E977A1D53 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 15:00:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id C3C31CB8CAA; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 09:00:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from 76.193.16.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 09:00:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <62563.76.193.16.196.1482850843.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <58626529.6000308@saunalahti.fi> References: <1482839506.750175.830376089.44208950@webmail.messagingengine.com> <58626529.6000308@saunalahti.fi> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 09:00:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Fwd: system -invalid argument 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Heikki Lindholm" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 15:00:50 -0000 On Tue, December 27, 2016 6:57 am, Heikki Lindholm wrote: > Needs to be > > dd ... bs=1000000 Could it be dd ... bs=1048576 ? ;-) Valeri > > Not every dd understands bs=1M > > > 27.12.2016 13.51, swjatoslaw gerus kirjoitti: >> dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M >> conv=sync >> >> dd if=FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=1M >> conv=sync >> >> system -invalid argument 1m >> >> >> >> swjatoslaw gerus >> milstar2@eml.cc >> >> ----- Original message ----- >> From: swjatoslaw gerus >> To: freebsd@edvax.de >> Subject: Fwd: more detail installation fbsd via wlan ...step 2 >> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2016 21:17:46 +0100 >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 15:48:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA7EC92CC4 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 15:48:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holindho@saunalahti.fi) Received: from vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi (vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi [193.64.193.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi", Issuer "vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 119C11647 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 15:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from holindho@saunalahti.fi) Received: from vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F6820044 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 17:48:55 +0200 (EET) Received: from gw01.mail.saunalahti.fi (gw01.mail.saunalahti.fi [195.197.172.115]) by vs23.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF46C20042 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 17:48:55 +0200 (EET) Received: from scarecrow.local (62-78-248-13.bb.dnainternet.fi [62.78.248.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gw01.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B72894005D for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 17:48:54 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <58628D65.6080500@saunalahti.fi> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 17:48:53 +0200 From: Heikki Lindholm User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; fi; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: system -invalid argument 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync References: <1482839506.750175.830376089.44208950@webmail.messagingengine.com> <58626529.6000308@saunalahti.fi> <62563.76.193.16.196.1482850843.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <62563.76.193.16.196.1482850843.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 15:48:59 -0000 27.12.2016 17.00, Valeri Galtsev kirjoitti: > > On Tue, December 27, 2016 6:57 am, Heikki Lindholm wrote: >> Needs to be >> >> dd ... bs=1000000 > > Could it be > > dd ... bs=1048576 Yeah, better, but harder to remember :P Shouldn't really affect functionality much, since the main speed-up comes from the larger transfers. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 18:08:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FE7C93662 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 18:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay15.qsc.de (mailrelay15.qsc.de [212.99.187.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A60C18D8 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 18:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay15.qsc.de; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:09:50 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4836E3CC3F; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:08:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBRI8ivH002804; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:08:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:08:44 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time system -invalid number 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Message-Id: <20161227190844.fdc2390f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1482841113.1239624.830388025.494E966F@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1482841113.1239624.830388025.494E966F@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with EFB1D69D5B0 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1994 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 18:08:56 -0000 On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:18:33 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > > > dd help ....dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time > > system -invalid number 1m #### On systems that do not support size suffixes (such as Linux dd might), you need to "manually multiply", for example: dd if= of= bs=1024k Or, if the "k" suffix isn't supported, dd if= of= bs=1048576 Note that this unit has to be converted as 2^10 = 2014 (instead of 10^3 = 1000). See "man dd" to check what your version of dd implements. > fdisk -l > system dev/sdb1 (new Sandisk ultrafit 16 gb) > > dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M > conv=sync > system -invalid number 1m #### The command is correct, just adjust the bs= parameter accordingly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 19:32:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7669C93C74 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from cosmo.uchicago.edu (cosmo.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F3E146E for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: by cosmo.uchicago.edu (Postfix, from userid 48) id 8D8B3CB8CA6; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:32:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from 128.135.52.6 (SquirrelMail authenticated user valeri) by cosmo.uchicago.edu with HTTP; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:32:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <25327.128.135.52.6.1482867129.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20161227190844.fdc2390f.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1482841113.1239624.830388025.494E966F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20161227190844.fdc2390f.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:32:09 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Fwd: dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time system -invalid number 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync From: "Valeri Galtsev" To: "Polytropon" Cc: "swjatoslaw gerus" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-5.el5.centos.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:32:10 -0000 On Tue, December 27, 2016 12:08 pm, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:18:33 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: >> >> >> >> dd help ....dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time >> >> system -invalid number 1m #### > > On systems that do not support size suffixes (such as > Linux dd might), you need to "manually multiply", for > example: > > dd if= of= bs=1024k > > Or, if the "k" suffix isn't supported, > > dd if= of= bs=1048576 > > Note that this unit has to be converted as 2^10 = 2014 > (instead of 10^3 = 1000). See "man dd" to check what > your version of dd implements. > To add to that: note that power of 2 is always a good idea. With block devices matching _some_ number of blocks is always beneficial as, if bs= "number of block + some fraction of block", then beginning from second "count" there will be extra transfers to block device (even though the result of dd will be OK, you are making it slower). The vital where you _should_ use "bs=2048" is when you dump a track of CD/DVD. (especially when doing recovery of badly damaged CD, then few extra options are a must to make exact sector for sector copy or bit for bit, even though in some unreadable areas they are are filled with zeroes). The last is due to fact fact that data sector size it equal to 2048 on CD or DVD (think in the terms of 12 bit integer, they probably expected poor programming, thus likely used 12 bit integer (11 bit value + 1 bit sign) as opposed to 12 bit unsigned integer; but note, I'm just guessing here). I'm sure someone will add more details or correct me if I got something wrong here. Valeri > > >> fdisk -l >> system dev/sdb1 (new Sandisk ultrafit 16 gb) >> >> dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M >> conv=sync >> system -invalid number 1m #### > > The command is correct, just adjust the bs= parameter accordingly. > > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 19:48:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBB4C932FB for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay12.qsc.de (mailrelay12.qsc.de [212.99.163.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C34001D1F for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay12.qsc.de; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 20:51:05 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F6563CC3F; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 20:48:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBRJmRei003199; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 20:48:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 20:48:27 +0100 From: Polytropon To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time system -invalid number 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Message-Id: <20161227204827.be793f5d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <25327.128.135.52.6.1482867129.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <1482841113.1239624.830388025.494E966F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20161227190844.fdc2390f.freebsd@edvax.de> <25327.128.135.52.6.1482867129.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with 9DD8F6AB249 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1838 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:48:38 -0000 On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:32:09 -0600 (CST), Valeri Galtsev wrote: > The vital where you _should_ use "bs=2048" is when you dump a track of > CD/DVD. Except when you are dealing with _audio_ CDs, then you need bs=2352 for raw data. :-) > (especially when doing recovery of badly damaged CD, then few > extra options are a must to make exact sector for sector copy or bit for > bit, even though in some unreadable areas they are are filled with > zeroes). Tools like dd_rescue can dynamically adjust the block size and re-read with decreasing sizes (and even repeat several times) in case of read errors. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 21:09:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BB6C932F0 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 21:09:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00ED01187 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 21:09:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CF8347BFD for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 16:09:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id uBRL92n2095186 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 16:09:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id uBRL92dX095183 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 16:09:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 16:09:01 -0500 (EST) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Realtek, re0 not working in FreeBSD 11.0 Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 27 Dec 2016 16:09:02 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 21:09:06 -0000 This is a very old Dell Inspiron pciconf -vl re0 re0@pci0:4:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x04341028 chip=0x813610ec rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' device = 'RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller' class = network subclass = ethernet works on 10.x not on 11.0. It will not connect either via dhcp or manually. I got no errors and sadly did not save 'netstat -nr' output. The infconfig from 10.0 (I dropped back). ifconfig re0 re0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8209b ether 00:26:b9:16:d4:7c inet 192.168.2.103 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active There are some PRs on re0 but not really this basic an error. I was just looking to see if my issue is unique to this chipset. 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To: Subject: Impacto Fiscal y Laboral Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 15:35:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 21:35:42 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 27 22:44:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6647C9318C for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 22:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 938B41F7C for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 22:44:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id F228220D19 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 17:44:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 27 Dec 2016 17:44:32 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=6o9eobRbDEMrP9UWwtGbmbzqBlU=; b=AT1QYbhjJEI8+ObBqemQ/ jfPZ2jkd+7Sr9LU7UMxINKN4+DMyjug7i5abXSM+hA/QsV5RRhZYbNZEXByvJc3L lBAd3iUenR11xXw8aM8BTlbtBA9jKd57MIlCn6RUq5MsT6iAAGk/YQKMzAVsYtFa 8B9EpBx0+YBl845i/eMfgQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=6o9eobRbDEMrP9UWwtGbmbzqB lU=; b=WMZtj7lNGFwBvvd3ObGs64v/ImedzoHna0aAFrpDCp7SJB0eryfRbqth+ c8xRho4XS8qB4JSCFM+F0kAf25fKGSnitImcqVF2qp+k5DMuWFuVQw0To7PAhoOI emqLdWI+i4Im5HScws6ZvgapHzvGTLLeFn2VEsASbcTCyXyToc= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id D17D4626D0; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 17:44:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482878672.2313143.830820153.12F00C98@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-b78c7f15 Subject: dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time system - X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20161227190844.fdc2390f.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 23:44:32 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 22:44:40 -0000 1. Before received your e-mails ,task was performed with solaris ,but not from publication (some public opinions exchange in internet) dd if=sol-11.3-live-x86 usb of=/dev/sdb1 work ... but with speed 2 mb/sek After was performed task with solaris -poweroff put flash in usb, can not be started ! black display ,one white " -" more as 5 min flash out can start 2. Performed with FreeBSD ,speed was some 10 mb/sek fdisk -l small change was C W95 FAT32,after FAT32(LBA) 3. next step ? ##################### ----- Original message ----- From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time system -invalid number 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:08:44 +0100 On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:18:33 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > > > dd help ....dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time > > system -invalid number 1m #### On systems that do not support size suffixes (such as Linux dd might), you need to "manually multiply", for example: dd if= of= bs=1024k Or, if the "k" suffix isn't supported, dd if= of= bs=1048576 Note that this unit has to be converted as 2^10 = 2014 (instead of 10^3 = 1000). See "man dd" to check what your version of dd implements. > fdisk -l > system dev/sdb1 (new Sandisk ultrafit 16 gb) > > dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M > conv=sync > system -invalid number 1m #### The command is correct, just adjust the bs= parameter accordingly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 00:56:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0452C912E7 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 00:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C678714AF for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 00:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9886E20AAD; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:56:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:56:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=8RLhqx83JF6EWCZldnU40DvxNG I=; b=YkR/7zMBayUTA5zN4ji2TFdf8OORzzkQis9eMAjKyP3v/v3RvEmkR/36vQ S+3ogqj1m/b3B/wk2rgAAVAbRfgQ7qBqeNfqOpDYxsWNbafCZlLkWS3tRlT5eYDP LGHGJxvlf20V8v9YCckCtj63f2zkXbOlnUb2ozt8oyaBjO/4k= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=8R Lhqx83JF6EWCZldnU40DvxNGI=; b=J1rqxWV5OSt/ah6RF9HWL4B9yOuDDhI5A7 Mkai0aEXtX6R0HyqIFERCoeZ3qgroCD59NRgGUX2hOkvMXP2xbF8TkN2HWZ1xGnn /9+fUvIOF4zmMmVmGQDkxZ/WrasPkmAPrQiG1Dp8BRlDJZnhXl8ETa65eocCF2Ib xtL4axbyE= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 766B4626D0; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:56:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482886599.2338326.830896281.579B7B12@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-b78c7f15 In-Reply-To: <20161227190844.fdc2390f.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 01:56:39 +0100 Subject: flash in power on, 15 minut -black terminal , white "-", poweroff flash out , power on -start as before References: <1482841113.1239624.830388025.494E966F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20161227190844.fdc2390f.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 00:56:41 -0000 flash in power on,15 minut -black terminal ,white "-" not started ,poweroff flash out , power on -start as before flash new,buyed in Eu greatest Saturn Hamburg 2 Sales Person stated can be used for linux ubuntu 16.04(32 bit and64 bit) all dowloading -tor,tails,solaris,freebsd performed from sites of companies .no any clip,musik & -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Tue, Dec 27, 2016, at 07:08 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:18:33 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > > > > > > > dd help ....dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time > > > > system -invalid number 1m #### > > On systems that do not support size suffixes (such as > Linux dd might), you need to "manually multiply", for > example: > > dd if= of= bs=1024k > > Or, if the "k" suffix isn't supported, > > dd if= of= bs=1048576 > > Note that this unit has to be converted as 2^10 = 2014 > (instead of 10^3 = 1000). See "man dd" to check what > your version of dd implements. > > > > > fdisk -l > > system dev/sdb1 (new Sandisk ultrafit 16 gb) > > > > dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M > > conv=sync > > system -invalid number 1m #### > > The command is correct, just adjust the bs= parameter accordingly. > > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 02:16:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231ABC917B9 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 02:16:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89A8315F5 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 02:16:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id uBS2GeVH013686; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:16:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? To: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:16:40 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 02:16:52 -0000 On 2016-12-27 05:02, David Christensen wrote: > > How do I enable GUI Shutdown and Restart capabilities in both XDM and > XFCE? You need to write some policykit/consolekit rules, can't find them now, and you ned HAL. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 02:22:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99E4C91A50 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 02:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43AFA1967 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 02:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id uBS2MLnS013707; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:22:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? To: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:22:21 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 02:22:25 -0000 On 2016-12-28 03:16, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2016-12-27 05:02, David Christensen wrote: >> >> How do I enable GUI Shutdown and Restart capabilities in both XDM and >> XFCE? > You need to write some policykit/consolekit rules, can't find them > now, and you ned HAL. Ok. I found it. To be able to shutdown or reboot your system, you'll have to add a .pkla file in /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d directory. Which looks like this (replace PUTYOURGROUPHERE by your group): [Restart] Identity=unix-group:PUTYOURGROUPHERE Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes [Shutdown] Identity=unix-group:PUTYOURGROUPHERE Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes For those who have working suspend/resume: [Suspend] Identity=unix-group:PUTYOURGROUPHERE Action=org.freedesktop.upower.suspend ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes Source: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/45643/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 03:02:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DB7C93EA1 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x232.google.com (mail-ua0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3768118A2 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.i.noel@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x232.google.com with SMTP id v2so22144752uac.2 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:02:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=F+VolMjE2par+jpceGwWMoWQRyZ/PtWRSmmbTYfBIpk=; b=HY5o1Y9imH74I062bwvZllVXJYkp9gcDwp90Hes2EJ3yPuqjhKgmQrwnV70fE0ZlE+ 7nnPE0+iDfwJbVoYFopPd+Rrhkg289TQxtL8SyyGrLuP6OdKY4j6Y7w4fU/XWwnHpuLq bbSc+8pEK/IXLt2INYsz5ZeWdPG62SiLzyPaG0rFyBV+/v7tQYaMAH/FaV7pX7K2YvNk OaJYZKQJssRuHsW4HQzdz9BoPhpyi00WEvV9CU7mOeoVaAOy/RyCs3l8o6+CDIqjKNo7 DkcCiYaQXI6YkAkYvxx4MHYs+PzZkCbwSp1t88br4rw+NyLjylYaTx55Sy0wLDsZc5yR ifDg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=F+VolMjE2par+jpceGwWMoWQRyZ/PtWRSmmbTYfBIpk=; b=TgWHZsiSr3GX0p9fzumuGcSlM0YQfQv665rfdDXtFhNHqe00bQPplKtxUwgmleLYsa gX5uYdtXahdAHHlq1xr7Pg6Y9zBXpeARNA/5yXIUKMEA2+ELB16WLFRkGaOENHi94UCE ruTNbFIg8ExGQkrPjTdpqu9BDj17+QpZ25W4SsVd4W0h96WF/3M4ldFzZR0XnInKR82S MJjkafRZXAo9eTU9U6p3qe0RXejNWzWaKToDhbj9jEGorqeAFwPQWBm5Oi/EozAXgINr MYOWElX+eWqs29oFBNqPpp6tRbd6pdEDRki/rQeIGqOZUHwwu7T6ShfRQTLU+ZDr7sg3 GEhA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXID+5ASwC6M+Y3im/BTPMZVwzAmZ0sAVucppznZ5cA4/Kq5qRnxRCAD+oKEfetCx1fdkiBLk3jTgNi2YA== X-Received: by 10.176.74.69 with SMTP id r5mr26890143uae.4.1482894136239; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:02:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.88.66 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:02:15 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: David.I.Noel@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20161124123456.056654ff@archlinux.localdomain> <20161124171051.GA32472@becker.bs.l> <3E.0D.19237.9CB8A385@dnvrco-omsmta01> <20161127085920.3dc07007@moonstudio> <20161203175403.d51cba9f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161217215104.39747954@archlinux.localdomain> From: David I Noel Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 21:02:15 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Replies to spam To: Adam Vande More Cc: Ralf Mardorf , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:02:17 -0000 On 12/22/16, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions < > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> >On 12/15/16, David I Noel wrote: >> >> I'm currently in the process of creating a few hundred new email >> >> addresses from which I will +1 this reply. >> >> That reminds me of >> >> https://gist.github.com/nocturnalgeek/1b8fa44283314544c487 >> http://www.mogelmail.de/domains/M >> > > In response to this overall thread, it seems it's time for this again: > > https://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt What does that list have to do with the conversation at hand? We're talking about the problem of spam, solutions to it, and why those solutions are never implemented--such as simply requiring people to register to the list, rather than having an open list that allows spammers to launch their spam attacks against the list server and have it auto-reflected and amplified, by having list-serve auto-forwarded to everyone subscribed. The only points of substance I could come up with from that meme-y check-list is that: 1. Users will be affected. ...and: 2. Asshats. As far as #1: Yes, of course they will be affected. - New users will have to register (oh no!). - Already registered users will no longer have to endure the onslaught of spam (hooray!). - ...and the number of conversations on this list about spam will decrease if not disappear entirely (woo hoo!). To #2, the answer is: yes, of course asshats exist. Assuming this is the line of argument you would go down: if they want to spam the list then yes, of course, they can write software to register their spam bots to the list and continue spamming. Then a CAPTCHA can be thrown up, if it comes down to it. In reality though, you can subscribe yourself to dozens of other open source project mailing lists (ones requiring registration) and you will receive hardly any spam at all (if any), so that one extra step keeps spammers from doing it most everywhere else (to this absurd degree). As far as I could tell, nothing else really applies to this conversation other than maybe "whitelists suck", which I don't think really even needs a response. There are plenty of other reasons to close the list than the ones that have been mentioned: reducing the amount of spam, reducing the amount of clutter in everyone's spam folder making it harder to find and "ok" valid email threads from it (FreeBSD-related or not), reducing the amount of discussions about spam on the list, and on. Does the forum receive spam? If not, why not? (Because it requires users to register, and likely includes a CAPTCHA, I would imagine). Beyond that: What purpose does spam serve? What other purposes could it serve? Who sends spam? Where does it come from? Servers purchased to send spam, or by and large hacked servers? The obvious answer is that spam could be sent trying to spear, phish (and there are all types of phishing), sell things, or generate clicks to website or on ads, but the majority is filtered by decently configured spam filters (gmail does fine, but seems a bit too aggressive in some cases). So why else would it be sent? The spam could also be a "hello" or keep-alive notice to bot-masters and or their friends, and this open list could serve as a place for the rooted servers to check in. Subscribe to this list, check your inbox or spam folder, and find out where "our" latest owned servers are. Public lists are just asking for that sort of thing, and with spam filters catching most of it, it's probably a decent way to build a sizeable botnet, either hide the hello/keep-alive notices, share the info with whomever it's intended, and keep it undetected for some time. As much as "there's a strong culture here among core that's resistant to change" gets thrown around, with every release new features get added and new improvements are made. This makes me wonder whether it's really a matter of resistance to change or more of the issue not being positioned properly, along with the lack of engagement by anyone on core with the "non-cool kids lists" about the matter. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 03:51:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F55C94D5F for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A02F1CDA for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:51:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:51:37 -0800 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:51:36 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:51:41 -0000 On 12/27/16 18:22, Bernt Hansson wrote: > To be able to shutdown or reboot your system, you'll have to add a > .pkla file in /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d > directory. ... Source: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/45643/ Thanks for the reply. I believe I saw that URL when STFW, but passed it by. I've created a file: 2016-12-27 19:43:22 toor@t7400 ~ # cat /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/org.freedesktop.consolekit.pkla [Restart] Identity=unix-group:dpchrist Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes [Shutdown] Identity=unix-group:dpchrist Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes And I've added my user name to the operator group: 2016-12-27 19:44:25 toor@t7400 ~ # grep operator /etc/group operator:*:5:root,dpchrist I then shut down, booted, and logged in, but the Shut Down and Restart buttons on the Xfce menu -> Log out dialog are greyed out. Any suggestions for getting shutdown and restart working in Xfce? How about XDM? David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 07:01:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA17C94AF4 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 07:01:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B983A194B for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 07:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id uBS71Xi4014405; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 08:01:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? To: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 08:01:33 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 07:01:40 -0000 On 2016-12-28 04:51, David Christensen wrote: > On 12/27/16 18:22, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> To be able to shutdown or reboot your system, you'll have to add a >> .pkla file in /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d >> directory. ... Source: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/45643/ > > Any suggestions for getting shutdown and restart working in Xfce? You do have dbus_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? Not sure if you need hald_enable="YES" too. > How about XDM? No idea about that. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 10:49:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F135AC944D7 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA3EC1F9D for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8648020866 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 05:49:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 Dec 2016 05:49:30 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=dPfGf0MMS0wEH178GuNu1I0O3XE=; b=Fzg3h/0BXrqdqR4Ht3AeN Bpr/c3TwX8NpnlpqDFrfbZpfh0efRLBI740F8xBsc/RfDZf60DDgRlX8OxfC5BF5 VZY5gSuTnzc0oPqQ50YICxppBB8EXIjMSHiybDWbwzoxvWt3asaUns5skB3OQA20 np+TH8/0IHfkFFxaDHqV1U= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=dPfGf0MMS0wEH178GuNu1I0O3 XE=; b=h8NuO74R4tYgz/br/2eP8VuxC/hmj36EPrR36jYLdOWA5AOTgOjv++0Dh jtsuHryNEteh9e/ZZJsry89RcEIcBcaSuK5PlWmoV9KBb83ZdOF6rnp45wn6jrv4 IUbl/zuOCpT/aU8FV/OiR95lANnGWTl1p7PveBDcPg3iOaxwms= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 66C376ABEC; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 05:49:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482922170.2617857.831173321.53C9C7B1@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf Subject: When using a bootable USB stick, plug in the USB stick before turning on the computer. Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:49:30 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:49:32 -0000 1. -memstick.img: This file contains all of the files needed to install FreeBSD, its source, and the Ports Collection. It should be burned to a USB stick using the instructions below. performed with dd if=FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=1048576 conv=sync https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-pre.html 2.When using a bootable USB stick, plug in the USB stick before turning on the computer. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-start.html with USB stick pluged before power on , notebook can not be started 15+ minuts black terminal with white "-" if USB Stick not pluged before start ,notebook started as before pink terminal some equal to tty with multiple options 32 bit 16.04 or 64 bit 16.04.1 ,normal or recovery or upstart sda1 or sda6 or sda6 on sda1 (do not work kernel panic) Was installed from 2 system administator's from student caffe university of Hamburg Both persons after 30 years old 1 version 32 bit ,2- 64 bit ,both version's work worst -one write each day .dmp (1mb+ !) Xsessions errors & 2. version limitied graphics can be started only with sudo su -email logi from firefox blocked ,only from opera window ot managed , if work in browser ,terminal is blocked and reversiv -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 12:48:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2EDC9410D for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C114616CB for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEC9207A3 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 07:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 Dec 2016 07:48:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=++voeUDWoqWv80/jS52W7ntE6vE=; b=sDhykc+jd3Jqs1RKJZvZy JklSGG5Lm9PsgMJCbt65+lsbSPBrRlcF1TO/06FWWCDwMMTpZWS+vTjyvxE9ZTAM L8kLEmkwi/pGO6FF4Tba8xYjVE1dKaem1tZVO90VyCYYnxuE6hnSPMlZk581Wj3d MoSRI2INDQw9KgYY/nq4DY= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=++voeUDWoqWv80/jS52W7ntE6 vE=; b=qKG8qxRVC7x+HX6WVce5fRUlCSHXLtnzcBP0o32kvP8v+TnW1km9jg0IY dIe0q57cXuG7ALYCTZiQXUEmh4GEV4B8pozshkRSSEd7xDp9tGXgJjC1zRfqOytK tKmo6eN8znt0WkJeMUP9/WhGUa5fUN5GHvckdrJNvqbFMQawLw= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id E2D356ABEC; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 07:48:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482929294.2636831.831234481.6EEC95F5@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1482878672.2313143.830820153.12F00C98@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 13:48:14 +0100 Subject: repaired some without sysadm 64 bit ubuntu 16.04.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:48:17 -0000 repaired some without sysadm 64 bit ubuntu 16.04.1 1. tty sudo su 2. xinit 3. unity x11 manager work ,browsers deblocked will some test ,after that going to folloving istallation freebsd ad solaris -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time system - Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 23:44:32 +0100 1. Before received your e-mails ,task was performed with solaris ,but not from publication (some public opinions exchange in internet) dd if=sol-11.3-live-x86 usb of=/dev/sdb1 work ... but with speed 2 mb/sek After was performed task with solaris -poweroff put flash in usb, can not be started ! black display ,one white " -" more as 5 min flash out can start 2. Performed with FreeBSD ,speed was some 10 mb/sek fdisk -l small change was C W95 FAT32,after FAT32(LBA) 3. next step ? ##################### ----- Original message ----- From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time system -invalid number 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:08:44 +0100 On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:18:33 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > > > dd help ....dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time > > system -invalid number 1m #### On systems that do not support size suffixes (such as Linux dd might), you need to "manually multiply", for example: dd if= of= bs=1024k Or, if the "k" suffix isn't supported, dd if= of= bs=1048576 Note that this unit has to be converted as 2^10 = 2014 (instead of 10^3 = 1000). See "man dd" to check what your version of dd implements. > fdisk -l > system dev/sdb1 (new Sandisk ultrafit 16 gb) > > dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M > conv=sync > system -invalid number 1m #### The command is correct, just adjust the bs= parameter accordingly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- http://www.fastmail.com - The professional email service From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 14:26:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB68DC9430D for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF65D1AD1 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:26:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71AA4621F6 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 09:26:45 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kYaqc09OGGT7 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 09:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 887AF621DE for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 09:26:43 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1482935203; bh=APl7vqiD2pKPgMkbLr5McncAqk7AYzOKLlIUxR4xmRo=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=fWAsYV3UndaErwD38NsKag0ArXzJ2EOS1JLVuZ/dYdiZjqxje+SAguH+zjnZ3PA47 XuavXA3Ch9e2fqfyoMifD9kP8oS0I7cqA3lpSyhAkEoxR4xXg8Rbwf2lJvPV1S/tEI JtjBALlRKFUkinGsT/8M7TL9vOPTIbAqmWxzJHQ3gVUMhGwtIAyxB7u99auyPmjJtb 1LCS0lZIi0grBbWfe3h4573WtelEcERFhjQoZWEChY+1RZRF1MVDwW+DmcGpU8VkNY 29dsZg/wqJVMUXtdkeJfwZTnAhUrPW/tVc5TZ6AdulBYrdzTFqXrfVYXZai/n2Xcke h5MVOih9We3Ww== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 09:26:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3671ad3ac07b36b28e1583a2020a6108.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 09:26:43 -0500 Subject: FreeBSD-11.0 BHyve ntpd issues From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:26:53 -0000 I see this in /var/log/messages: > Dec 28 03:57:47 SAMBA-01 ntpd[560]: > frequency error -500 PPM exceeds tolerance 500 PPM > Dec 28 06:05:04 SAMBA-01 ntpd[560]: > frequency error -500 PPM exceeds tolerance 500 PPM Reading up on ntpd issues wrt vm's I ran these diagnostics on the vm: [root@SAMBA-01 ~]# dmesg | grep Timecounter Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 10000000 Hz quality 950 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 900 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec [root@SAMBA-01 ~]# sysctl kern.timecounter.hardware kern.timecounter.hardware: HPET I also found this thread, https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-virtualization/2016-April/004382.html, on the FreeBSd list which suggested the following fix: > I found errors in /var/log/messages and fix adding: > > kern.timecounter.hardware=TSC-low > into /etc/sysctl.conf file I can add this as suggested but before I do can someone enlighten as to what is happening, why it happens, what the consequences are of not dealing with the problem, and what the recommended fix accomplishes. Should this suggestion be implemented or is there a better solution? The vm in question is, as its name suggests, a samba based AD-DC. Time synchronisation with the desktop units is critical for authentication. Thanks, -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 15:10:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B56CC94257 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 15:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24B6B183B for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 15:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D39C621F7 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:10:44 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uUHqDyb0NJQq for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:10:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 713CE621DE for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:10:42 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1482937842; bh=BBuZS3j9rqCLLgoN3alqS0SZp4WnuDWN3Zk+KxbfJ0Q=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=nrMJF5RaiWoxsm4t1prvL4Ji1kRFF55E2FsGtBxtt4/4EB1DHyrtZhJlUkOnkH8Bx 1L9IGthMw3DEvo0psFYnycVkeggXBxGhfjNtwR5QP/E4kUGdSerYVCy1jacMjDU2vN tWxs05t1SX/0PR4FEFDTlvzraxNkX3LZB56GCXQuWl3/JgE8FOpZ2T8gpk1LtNHXe6 FqhVDvL/G7TfpjFNRmhvdBqmt7QfdiEvn31tZ4Jf+2CHoR3HemvAqWXVIdpB+IjchZ kxhM09BHmBuyAQFjJJ4bw/ItZrn2rI2U1oxSWgs64fulXx8dGrZuCWyvRsRkTW8B7t ciIzuWhFilEzQ== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:10:42 -0500 Message-ID: <998bbb80a87dcf50d5b451659459b37c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:10:42 -0500 Subject: ntpd on FreeBSD-11 source: From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 15:10:46 -0000 On FreeBSD-11.0 when I see this: # ntpd -V /usr/sbin/ntpd: illegal option -- V ntpd - NTP daemon program - Ver. 4.2.8p9 # which ntpd /usr/sbin/ntpd But I also see this on the same system: pkg which $(which ntpd) /usr/sbin/ntpd was not found in the database # pkg info ntp pkg: No package(s) matching ntp and yet: # pkg search ntp . . . ntp-4.2.8p9 The Network Time Protocol Distribution . . . So, where does the ntpd I am running come from if not from a package or port? AND if it does, as I believe it must, come from the port packages then why is it not reported by 'pkg info' and its program file not listed in the port database? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 16:00:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF5CC94420 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA HLL ISSUER 01" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B06F41DF2 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF50962073; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:00:10 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OjI22ePdMJoR; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:00:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 35B44621F6; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:00:07 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1482940808; bh=t9RBQwHirPsTDHsjEbx+ygqbxBZ1xN5Uws+BKaNIbVw=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:Reply-To; b=qgV/06OM21OfgeNsV8sXKWWaS0NnyLdw8kzT73FQopy0revhSaegSQBzK3Kn0VUHd xhHKOvl79e/VnGzZnpEXW7iW2CsNW5Uch3KBv2RxfsznGesWX7FSc3DvQAU45giHOs X9p17E8BxeT+bQpUVAi1xIaVKoc2CYGj7nQm4LlI6jqwE7ObjPwcssHs65gcRqQxHE aBiqU6jxRf3nJktX2EQsVXjxtNV2n9EAbu3iK5j3S79gOQoWfS98gCjWYCO8xoXH4B WAPpHE/fqFfhu+SvBtW0Cw+2NaMxvhKYRteyMtcT8nFM+pDBN7oVHoVswxieTLkz3Q h2WIl07ARYcQA== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:00:08 -0500 Message-ID: <25b74416a44842ffa0f14e2092992e78.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: References: <585C993B.7040805@gmail.com> <2390554002144fa9a925e1f8bed14466.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:00:08 -0500 Subject: Re: IP address assignments to jails using ezjail From: "James B. Byrne" To: doug@fledge.watson.org Cc: "Ernie Luzar" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:00:13 -0000 On Fri, December 23, 2016 16:16, doug@safeport.com wrote: > > Can you ssh from the host? > The problem with outbound ssh connectivity was caused by a firewall rule on the target host. This has been resolved and other issues I was having appear to have been resolved as well. The local_unbound service in the jail is resolving domains. Thank you all for the help. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 16:05:21 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E72C9478B; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (24-240-198-187.static.stls.mo.charter.com [24.240.198.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7F211531; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.local (localhost [10.9.5.2]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id uBSG1TlM016801 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:01:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.dweimer.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id uBSG1TgK016800; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:01:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.dweimer.local: www set sender to dweimer@dweimer.net using -f To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Subject: Re: ntpd on FreeBSD-11 source: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:01:29 -0600 From: "Dean E. Weimer" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: dweimer.net Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net Mail-Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net In-Reply-To: <998bbb80a87dcf50d5b451659459b37c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <998bbb80a87dcf50d5b451659459b37c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Message-ID: <3b7f21baf185712e19e81b074a00e8f2@dweimer.net> X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:05:21 -0000 On 2016-12-28 9:10 am, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > On FreeBSD-11.0 when I see this: > > # ntpd -V > /usr/sbin/ntpd: illegal option -- V > ntpd - NTP daemon program - Ver. 4.2.8p9 > > # which ntpd > /usr/sbin/ntpd > > But I also see this on the same system: > > pkg which $(which ntpd) > /usr/sbin/ntpd was not found in the database > > # pkg info ntp > pkg: No package(s) matching ntp > > and yet: > > # pkg search ntp > . . . > ntp-4.2.8p9 The Network Time Protocol Distribution > . . . > > So, where does the ntpd I am running come from if not from a package > or port? AND if it does, as I believe it must, come from the port > packages then why is it not reported by 'pkg info' and its program > file not listed in the port database? > > -- > *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** > Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail > Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail > > James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca > Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca > 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 > Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 > Canada L8E 3C3 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" That is the ntp that is built into the operating system. You need to run /usr/local/sbin/ntpd to use the pone from packages/ports. Add this line to rc.conf to tell the startup script /etc/rc.d/ntpd to start the package/port version instead of the operating system version at system boot. ntpd_program="/usr/local/sbin/ntpd" -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 16:12:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1AFC949FE for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x234.google.com (mail-wm0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D89E19DA for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shamim.shahriar@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x234.google.com with SMTP id m1so27006292wme.0 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 08:12:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=eSZVrtb3VRoZdsv4F31JUlzl9RQCq2iqlpoE1wNXMXM=; b=dfjTrE5rSZsi5Zi3nc7w5U6Mkwfsxn1WWH2rVz5lQrSWsST/5baIaU/OwA58Jr8uh1 whZvTIR89wgHhDmuga5Q91AagN4s3InqJTF2dz33kIpBdOBZ47KSjnjtZC1E1f1TyNZ8 CggC83usOK/xeudSseWt/xbQbgMPEF5Pk8ZgpatFjhTpKc/lO60tZMPSkcrKvDH0Dm/F 0fgEe5pRlMGBhkxNWyhrUKSgbAtiCongmVEqOj4AbnqKvw2f97mOKnHJ/686URDJIXCn AA5cmTmzTa8vCoY2IZYrIcl5Noq1wMsyCu2KEA7U1CU3aCz1bxwxXxqvSwbZti8w4ipc Fegg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=eSZVrtb3VRoZdsv4F31JUlzl9RQCq2iqlpoE1wNXMXM=; b=WxQFTZ5ZZ0epqZQiSvKhmKDxp9ZZkzkj9mtrt+OFZhHr/Q3d3bS3ljIx1oSxu8kKL2 o2myxSc9FUKKBtL7LC+sPWPWBmkd/Ns6dVBn0H0WcS8T5ax7P3fu7y2Fx0oHKb9oDz8z wZQSBid9mSSUFBtTaM5rLtaAeiUOO3nAa59l+U5hSWT7J0M+Pg0+NkreDAQi6c9piZ74 Ah6MefxkoEIeZC5uvAoGt0CUKHSCi3JtmTyk6JQ+RlRzXk5AWqy7c3Z13G5cKsr3NVfO peD8b1EZJoB74KqCH9wG9wqtRR5ttk5vKgzeiyaFMBY9AfiEuB7tpf5vlPJiTlc2/13q BVtg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJ+xhG0+CJCKPo9txjOOk7RjjraCYsnyu4/uMXEVMpi6LrlyPmY7Cecs3MyZE7ydizlo5M8W7c/JCywng== X-Received: by 10.28.166.208 with SMTP id p199mr34153091wme.27.1482941543858; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 08:12:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.181.22 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 08:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.80.181.22 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 08:12:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <998bbb80a87dcf50d5b451659459b37c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: <998bbb80a87dcf50d5b451659459b37c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> From: Shamim Shahriar Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:12:23 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ntpd on FreeBSD-11 source: To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:12:26 -0000 On 28 Dec 2016 3:11 p.m., "James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions" < freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: On FreeBSD-11.0 when I see this: # ntpd -V /usr/sbin/ntpd: illegal option -- V ntpd - NTP daemon program - Ver. 4.2.8p9 # which ntpd /usr/sbin/ntpd But I also see this on the same system: pkg which $(which ntpd) /usr/sbin/ntpd was not found in the database # pkg info ntp pkg: No package(s) matching ntp and yet: # pkg search ntp . . . ntp-4.2.8p9 The Network Time Protocol Distribution . . . So, where does the ntpd I am running come from if not from a package or port? AND if it does, as I believe it must, come from the port packages then why is it not reported by 'pkg info' and its program file not listed in the port database? -- *** Hi James I'm assuming (please correct me if I'm wrong) you are more familiar with Linux based systems, hence the confusion. BSDs follow different philosophy -- that dictates (to some extent, and I'm rephrasing) that anything that is required for a stable running of a system needs to be part of the base system. So, in most BSDs, you will find utilities like NTP, sendmail, drill (alternate to dig), and many other tools built into the base. BSDs in general divide the system into base and userland -- base has most of the things you need for a stable system, anything extra you need/want you get from package/ports. Also, simply because it is in the base doesn't mean you are restricted to it, you can always install the item from ports if it offers features you need/want. Another example is bind -- which is in the base but programmes like samba required features that were not available on the base but were available from ports (do not know current/latest status), so people installed it and used it from the ports tree. Just a hint that you might find useful along the way, all base systems are in root (like /bin, /lib, /usr/include) whereas things from ports are under /use/local (like /use/local/bin, /use/local/lib, /use/local/include and so on). Generally that is a good preliminary indication as to the source of where it is from (unlike other trending operating systems :P, or you haven't inadvertently installed them in the wrong location). Hope this helps. Have fun! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 16:19:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786FBC94CD1 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from miucha.iecc.com (abusenet-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:1126::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "miucha.iecc.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 DV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48A1E1FC2 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 55185 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2016 16:19:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (64.57.183.18) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 28 Dec 2016 16:19:38 -0000 Date: 28 Dec 2016 16:19:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20161228161910.29741.qmail@ary.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: shamim.shahriar@gmail.com Subject: Re: where is ntpd In-Reply-To: Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:19:33 -0000 ># which ntpd >/usr/sbin/ntpd >So, where does the ntpd I am running come from if not from a package >or port? It's in the base system, which is why it's in /usr/sbin rather than /usr/local/sbin There is also an ntpd port, but unless you want to tweak it to do something exotic, there's no reason not to use the regular one. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 16:31:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0341FC94197 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B6A21B30 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:33:28 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16C073CC5C; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:31:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBSGVObS002041; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:31:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:31:24 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time system - Message-Id: <20161228173124.fc0df62a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1482878672.2313143.830820153.12F00C98@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1482878672.2313143.830820153.12F00C98@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with DF9D4683427 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1943 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:31:36 -0000 On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 23:44:32 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > 1. Before received your e-mails ,task was performed with solaris ,but > not from publication (some public opinions exchange in internet) > > dd if=sol-11.3-live-x86 usb of=/dev/sdb1 > > work ... but with speed 2 mb/sek > > > After was performed task with solaris -poweroff > put flash in usb, can not be started ! black display ,one white " -" > more as 5 min That's a question more suited for a Solaris mailing list. :-) > 2. Performed with FreeBSD ,speed was some 10 mb/sek > > fdisk -l small change was C W95 FAT32,after FAT32(LBA) > > 3. next step ? If the USB stick has been properly created, you should try to boot from it. The installer will be launched automatically as you can see in the online documentation: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-start.html See from 2.4.4, then: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/using-bsdinstall.html The installer will guide you through the required steps. There is _no_ need to "prepare" anything (like creating partitions and formatting them); everything the installer needs is some unallocated (!) space on the target disk. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 16:35:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545AEC9441B for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay11.qsc.de (mailrelay11.qsc.de [212.99.187.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B28581EBE for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay11.qsc.de; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:37:59 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A06613CC42; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:35:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBSGZNYQ002059; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:35:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:35:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash in power on, 15 minut -black terminal , white "-", poweroff flash out , power on -start as before Message-Id: <20161228173523.4cc1acdb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1482886599.2338326.830896281.579B7B12@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1482841113.1239624.830388025.494E966F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20161227190844.fdc2390f.freebsd@edvax.de> <1482886599.2338326.830896281.579B7B12@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay11.qsc.de with 2AC2E6A356F X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2080 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:35:33 -0000 On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 01:56:39 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > flash in power on,15 minut -black terminal ,white "-" not started > ,poweroff flash out , power on -start as before 15 minutes looks like a lot of time. Usually the boot process is started within seconds, and it should take one (!) minute at maximum. > flash new,buyed in Eu greatest Saturn Hamburg 2 Sales Person stated can > be used for linux ubuntu 16.04(32 bit and64 bit) USB sticks can be used for _anything_ (mostly). > all dowloading -tor,tails,solaris,freebsd performed from sites of > companies .no any clip,musik & You haven't even successfully installed FreeBSD. How do you expect it to play video in a web browser? ;-) After you have successfully installed and booted FreeBSD, install the window manager and browsers that you like. Add browser plugins if neccessary (even though today's Firefox and Chrome should do most things out of the box). Check if you've _really_ created the USB boot media as needed. Make sure no strange "boot code remains" are left on it that prevent a successful boot of FreeBSD. Keep in mind you could also easily create a boot CD or DVD and start the installation with that kind of media - just in case. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 16:40:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9638FC9461E for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay11.qsc.de (mailrelay11.qsc.de [212.99.187.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08EAE1114 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay11.qsc.de; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:42:36 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 676CD3CC42; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:39:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBSGdu9e002063; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:39:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:39:56 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Bernt Hansson Cc: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? Message-Id: <20161228173956.d3bf3a9f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay11.qsc.de with 9D79A6A355B X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2047 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:40:04 -0000 On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:16:40 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2016-12-27 05:02, David Christensen wrote: > > > > How do I enable GUI Shutdown and Restart capabilities in both XDM and > > XFCE? > You need to write some policykit/consolekit rules, can't find them now, > and you ned HAL. Really? Isn't HAL obsoleted yet? As far as I know, it's not even part of the default packages anymore... but you're correct regarding the strange *kit XML rules. You also need to pay attention to specific group memberships. Here is some information: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/16916/ A more genral approach (for all users) can be followed by editing /usr/local/etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf like this: This can also be found in the discussion mentioned. I remember that I did something similar required by Gnome... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 16:43:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754F4C9498D for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B7FB15E8 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [88.217.120.114] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cMFyO-0004OO-I5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:17:00 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id uBSFH0SI002462 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:17:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id uBSFH0sd002461 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:17:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:17:00 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd on FreeBSD-11 source: Message-ID: <20161228151700.GA2425@c720-r292778-amd64.oa.oclc.org> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <998bbb80a87dcf50d5b451659459b37c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <998bbb80a87dcf50d5b451659459b37c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 88.217.120.114 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:43:52 -0000 El día Wednesday, December 28, 2016 a las 10:10:42AM -0500, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions escribió: > On FreeBSD-11.0 when I see this: > > # ntpd -V > /usr/sbin/ntpd: illegal option -- V > ntpd - NTP daemon program - Ver. 4.2.8p9 > > # which ntpd > /usr/sbin/ntpd this is in the base system > > But I also see this on the same system: > > pkg which $(which ntpd) > /usr/sbin/ntpd was not found in the database the pkg would install in /usr/local/.... > > # pkg info ntp > pkg: No package(s) matching ntp > > and yet: > > # pkg search ntp > . . . > ntp-4.2.8p9 The Network Time Protocol Distribution > . . . > > So, where does the ntpd I am running come from if not from a package > or port? AND if it does, as I believe it must, come from the port > packages then why is it not reported by 'pkg info' and its program > file not listed in the port database? ofc not; because the pkg npt is not installed; matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 No to the €! Out of this imperialistic EU! Out of the imperialistic NATO war alliance! ¡No al €! ¡Fuera de esta UE imperialista! ¡Fuera de esta OTAN imperialista! N€IN zum €! Raus aus dieser imperialistischen EU! Raus aus dieser imperialistischen NATO! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 16:46:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB3AC94AFF for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay12.qsc.de (mailrelay12.qsc.de [212.99.163.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04C7A183D for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay12.qsc.de; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:49:08 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 338963CC42; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:46:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBSGkUAx002084; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:46:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:46:30 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When using a bootable USB stick, plug in the USB stick before turning on the computer. Message-Id: <20161228174630.c21a00a1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1482922170.2617857.831173321.53C9C7B1@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1482922170.2617857.831173321.53C9C7B1@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with 300836B18B3 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2105 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:46:35 -0000 On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:49:30 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > 1. -memstick.img: This file contains all of the files needed to install > FreeBSD, its source, and the Ports Collection. It should be burned to a > USB stick using the instructions below. > > performed with > > dd if=FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=1048576 > conv=sync That is correct. > 2.When using a bootable USB stick, plug in the USB stick before turning > on the computer. > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-start.html > > with USB stick pluged before power on , notebook can not be started > 15+ minuts black terminal with white "-" Check your BIOS/UEFI settings of there is anything preventing the system to boot from USB (like rescricted boot "Secure Boot"). > if USB Stick not pluged before start ,notebook started as before What exactly does it start then? > pink terminal some equal to tty with multiple options > 32 bit 16.04 or 64 bit 16.04.1 ,normal or recovery or upstart > sda1 or sda6 or sda6 on sda1 (do not work kernel panic) That looks like you're describing a Linux boot manager, maybe GRUB? Can you be more specific? > Was installed from 2 system administator's from student caffe > university of Hamburg > Both persons after 30 years old I think the age doesn't matter. Knowledge and experience do. :-) > 1 version 32 bit ,2- 64 bit ,both version's work worst -one write > each day .dmp (1mb+ !) That is really terrible. Maybe they forgot something important? Has the hardware been verified to support Linux and FreeBSD? > Xsessions errors & > 2. version limitied graphics can be started only with sudo su That looks like a major fsck-up. :-) In any normal Linux, BSD, Solaris or UNIX, you create a user account and work with that account. Only exceptional actions should require root permissions. > -email logi from firefox blocked ,only from opera Check if the ISP you're using is blocking normal e-mail. Yes, this happens sometimes, believe it or not. > window ot managed , if work in browser ,terminal is blocked and reversiv You should be able to switch windows using Alt+Tab, a key combination understood by most window managers and desktop environments. After all, it seems like the system they have been installing for you are heavily misconfigured. And can you rule out any hardware failure? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 16:49:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DC5C94C5C for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay11.qsc.de (mailrelay11.qsc.de [212.99.187.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A7ED1AF0 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay11.qsc.de; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:51:46 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C00D3CC42; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:49:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBSGn9sO002088; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:49:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:49:09 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: repaired some without sysadm 64 bit ubuntu 16.04.1 Message-Id: <20161228174909.9b36839b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1482929294.2636831.831234481.6EEC95F5@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1482929294.2636831.831234481.6EEC95F5@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay11.qsc.de with A6F4F6A355B X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2103 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:49:13 -0000 On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 13:48:14 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > repaired some without sysadm 64 bit ubuntu 16.04.1 > > 1. tty sudo su > 2. xinit > 3. unity > > x11 manager work ,browsers deblocked Excellent! > will some test ,after that going to folloving istallation freebsd ad > solaris You should be successful when you follow the instructions in the online documentation. If you encounter problems, always try to follow those "rules": 1. mention what you have done (exact command line) 2. describe what happened (program response, error message) Always counter-check with the documentation to make sure it wasn't just a "fat fingers" effect; happens to the best UNIX gurus... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 17:09:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7711AC944FB for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45B0119BB for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E23F2098A for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:09:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:09:30 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=s+VZ8YjMMuZ++hVNi96/axCSclk=; b=XFZgQ8Yu19hDovz8A+aGp Q1c6sl1bVIh00IPIAf5IwSQyy+hS3qO25dluMNKypf2LAbYuT+tCMbIVhWrDrIEA YqQrvwW9N0/v7tY9BBj3R5/ZKiGa0MIIZiWWfISSHjk1voZGnNfRDQEtS0BVnfKR WFWNNzwsFc0nUYff+Rc25Q= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=s+VZ8YjMMuZ++hVNi96/axCSc lk=; b=SdZQzIcLHEh9pnXmU1q+3TSUTwTPvqGh6PmNRSfke9Yem9IfdyInpGXOQ DJP9JpZOrJYpBZu0LT1Xlsio8O2uYx18hEf83mvwzRe8qKOgH/jWtGG+WRtg1Nns YbBH0P9cpIG1QE3/+Wx5U+/ZzodFPDSDDdR5/g5IPTrgXUwD4k= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 1BC9C6ABEC; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:09:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482944970.2682723.831429641.7DD4B037@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:09:30 +0100 Subject: tor work without author X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:09:32 -0000 tor can not be started from tty and not can be started with root,unly as user (autor forced to use sudo su in false istallation of 64-bit ubuntu 16.04.1) tor worked without author top |grep tor kill -9 3141 ------- killed ,but started new 3648 & Tor ? Ubuntu ? package tor +ubuntu ? Would by freebsd equal effect ? -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 17:32:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E1CC94C3C for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:32:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7888A17DE for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:32:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3402208A8 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:32:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=4RVLXOJs4z7mNYIfoGcDRM+WuDk=; b=dYBBUHwmtNbzOFQPGMCnj BUi+TgVGU++QV5Qugod1Fo/sLGZOoxdy7wsZsZ3sI1LB8Z0Sj3ZnSIEqfnCYVVUu 2ELxTNbs2YiJatiUAaBDlDEsTquMN4AiRPVXlUUci17uAY9ASL21uPdqsUObgoLC 6qSB7RUjrjjg5HBdhNRnAs= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=4RVLXOJs4z7mNYIfoGcDRM+Wu Dk=; b=XxHrZMZRKaU4nDusiO284YsbjLUCrf8CkrtNGoHves78yiY04kwuJO+Xe x95jFTZldoQ9Ie69G8o3/e6ohuBprtlqKbSO9CORPCvAOPFJ9oWY8Y5elQqY/HyG FjX+mHHXNsCPhMkU3WWs+oHa3+/9QoRI5rwJlb3jjOSsIMcQM8= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 9846B6ABEC; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:32:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482946360.2686718.831448257.0D39AE65@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf Subject: Fwd: check tty1 -tty6: tor work without author Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:32:40 +0100 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1482946316.2686647.831443225.2A1C48A3@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:32:42 -0000 -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd@edvax.de Subject: check tty1 -tty6: tor work without author Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:31:56 +0100 check tty1 -tty6 ctrl -alt -f1-6 from tty1 started login ,sudo su,,xinit ,unity without xinit direct unity not work graphics is i tty2 (press ctrl+alt +f2) login -tty1 tty3-6 without login ctrl -alt -f7 (orm back to graphics) - blocked Can not kill tor ,after kill -9 ,process started with another number Zeitgeist in ~ deleted ,but this is present in anothers directories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist_(free_software) -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon Subject: Fwd: tor work without author Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:10:03 +0100 -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: tor work without author Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:09:30 +0100 tor can not be started from tty and not can be started with root,unly as user (autor forced to use sudo su in false istallation of 64-bit ubuntu 16.04.1) tor worked without author top |grep tor kill -9 3141 ------- killed ,but started new 3648 & Tor ? Ubuntu ? package tor +ubuntu ? Would by freebsd equal effect ? -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web -- http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- http://www.fastmail.com - Same, same, but different... -- http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 17:56:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AD6C95581 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A1451E42 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:56:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1206C20732 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:56:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:56:44 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=xKu4N0zcWGVMSjgUiVm8JF/F8jE=; b=QcrH6z36vRxrDIQAeWf8x ihEjZKhhW6FhusogZ3xLuzi+WKKykrD1GfA+yQ9Rx9timYoMFcJNGMDjDb0M6P7T 7ZPSeXQEkk5l4lPZLVYRMTh5NLsL7uBqfWwoqaMeEpb+hT56GjTwiSC5wX/dFDWL cx16NO0dmuhBSnvhOkyAkY= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=xKu4N0zcWGVMSjgUiVm8JF/F8 jE=; b=Xe+ZsT7MhWAeTcUMRQ+C+G6KNPpIgxVECCJ/9qLhCJi9T8OzALBcVJa0D mtlOFOlK47+nc+sy8HixwoPugImS+jV3FADeiPIyPmlJyt/11cJglA97i3ug+p+5 92RSFL4ead8U+M+AW2Qa3fpyxWjf4cGcHwxalrewqAcmJShguQ= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id DB7FE6ABEC; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:56:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482947803.2691455.831465193.62968480@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1482946360.2686718.831448257.0D39AE65@webmail.messagingengine.com> Subject: kill -9 3648 tor ....killed automaticaly start tor 3760 cpu 21.3% /check tty1 -tty6: tor work without author Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:56:43 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:56:45 -0000 top |grep tor 3648 cpu 0.3% kill -9 3648 ....killed automaticaly start tor 3760 cpu 21.3% some 5 sek later -cpu step by step 7% 2% going to 0.3% -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Fwd: check tty1 -tty6: tor work without author Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:32:40 +0100 -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd@edvax.de Subject: check tty1 -tty6: tor work without author Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:31:56 +0100 check tty1 -tty6 ctrl -alt -f1-6 from tty1 started login ,sudo su,,xinit ,unity without xinit direct unity not work graphics is i tty2 (press ctrl+alt +f2) login -tty1 tty3-6 without login ctrl -alt -f7 (orm back to graphics) - blocked Can not kill tor ,after kill -9 ,process started with another number Zeitgeist in ~ deleted ,but this is present in anothers directories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist_(free_software) -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon Subject: Fwd: tor work without author Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:10:03 +0100 -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: tor work without author Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:09:30 +0100 tor can not be started from tty and not can be started with root,unly as user (autor forced to use sudo su in false istallation of 64-bit ubuntu 16.04.1) tor worked without author top |grep tor kill -9 3141 ------- killed ,but started new 3648 & Tor ? Ubuntu ? package tor +ubuntu ? Would by freebsd equal effect ? -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web -- http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- http://www.fastmail.com - Same, same, but different... -- http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be -- http://www.fastmail.com - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 18:01:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECC4C95828 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:01:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay11.qsc.de (mailrelay11.qsc.de [212.99.187.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EB2A11EE for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay11.qsc.de; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:03:32 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0619A3CC42; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:00:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBSI0s4E002025; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:00:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:00:54 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tor work without author Message-Id: <20161228190054.476f2bf1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1482944970.2682723.831429641.7DD4B037@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1482944970.2682723.831429641.7DD4B037@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay11.qsc.de with DE1206A357C X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2053 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:01:00 -0000 On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:09:30 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > tor can not be started from tty and not can be started with root,unly > as user > (autor forced to use sudo su in false istallation of 64-bit ubuntu > 16.04.1) As I said, that looks just wrong. Tor should be started from a user account (just as every other X program, and X itself). > tor worked without author > > top |grep tor > kill -9 3141 > ------- > killed ,but started new > 3648 > & That is quite strange, but might depend on some Linux-specific, maybe even systemd related "service autostart and restart magic". On FreeBSD, a killed program usually doesn't restart on its own. > Tor ? Ubuntu ? package tor +ubuntu ? There should be a package that you can obtain from the Ubuntu software installer (instead of manually downloading something from the web(. > Would by freebsd equal effect ? No. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 18:05:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22E9C95999 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5634D16D9 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:07:06 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 226753CC71; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:05:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBSI527k002031; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:05:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:05:02 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: check tty1 -tty6: tor work without author Message-Id: <20161228190502.03b1c7d8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1482946316.2686647.831443225.2A1C48A3@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1482946316.2686647.831443225.2A1C48A3@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with 05BFF683426 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1889 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:05:07 -0000 On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:31:56 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > check tty1 -tty6 ctrl -alt -f1-6 > from tty1 started login ,sudo su,,xinit ,unity You really shouldn't run X as root. It's commonly considered a no-go, and because you intend to run Tor, I assume you have security considerations. Running X as root is such a thing that you shouldn't do. > without xinit direct unity not work You should be able to launch a session with the "startx" command. What do your ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession files contain? If they don't call Unity, it _of course_ won't work (as the system might default to something else, depending on the distribution's preconfiguration). > graphics is i tty2 (press ctrl+alt +f2) > login -tty1 > tty3-6 without login > > ctrl -alt -f7 (orm back to graphics) - blocked > Can not kill tor ,after kill -9 ,process started with another number As I said, that might be due to some special "process arrangement" within Ubuntu. You should address this problem either to a Ubuntu mailing list or web forum, or directly to the Tor team (in case it's related to Tor). > Zeitgeist in ~ deleted ,but this is present in anothers directories > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist_(free_software) As far as I know, it's not possible to run Gnome / Unity without that "Zeitgeist", so you cannot remove it entirely. But that might have changed in recent Linux versions that use this desktop environment. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 19:16:59 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAC9C95265 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A331F1171 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0053B20980 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:16:57 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=+TqNmbY7mtXhNKqiQvxJMDSf/3Q=; b=oIp5DoFbZ2IJp04R3qIJi 8lR62R8sUGmZw+kflXOGLF9LEfswOZH7qr+KQVlUHDL7/rko5nwMCgfZT8B/W1eT lPf4tXiLIv3/GKim7hXYRtGRSMq+u2hRwWgB3FcJh/JKS5ahzqadBjmR/P32RxpG RMsFV9wMG7znmm55815LN0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=+TqNmbY7mtXhNKqiQvxJMDSf/ 3Q=; b=gdtfOvbveg9FaBnEl7jPEYt8icoE19QrCCjCrM94znHQpsxI2PPtqYMLZ oEWC1gT20HFjVcCgAeVxsuqos8pVNJPACh/rNmOfx/kvZPLpRXm4L1B0VPbDKULk msjn9T3DOnWV99f3lkWj0B2e+TNkQUqXg2HROJ/L9Wfe2gk5WA= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id D41B66ABEC; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:16:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482952617.2705239.831531457.69EDC597@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf Subject: Fwd: Fwd: You really shouldn't run X as root. ...Can ot start without sudo su ... Will speedy as possilbe istall bsd/solaris an delete both 32& 64 linux , Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:16:57 +0100 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1482952577.2705166.831530057.61AD26B7@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:17:00 -0000 Dear Sir Thank you for assitance You wrote=20=20 You really shouldn't run X as root. ...Can ot start without sudo su=20=20 ... Will speedy as possilbe install bsd/solaris an delete both 32& 64 linux , If delete before , author would not connected and must going to public internet caffee they would i most of the case's not offer possibility access network with extra notebook=20 or must going to student sysadm's .They (not the author -Zuf=C3=A4llige Bekannte) possibly observed as students movements (it is norm in each country) and installed this kind of software ,without knowledge -what is it ? Author demand -stable software ,all anothers is not my business.Authority knew about author activities, they are some specific for broad public ,but full legal If Germany authority will monitor germany student movement -no any problem from author point of view ,author not related =20 will speedy as possible going to bsd/solaris ad delete linux=20 ####################################################### will read some publication bsd and solaris ad think -how this task=20 can be performed P.S. tor work not with author application programm ,java and=20 flash blocked=20 Exist demand -Gus Hansen won 15 mln $ life and loosed 28 mln $=20 online in 24 month ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------- Was speculation about corrupted soft , communication &=20 On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:31:56 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > check tty1 -tty6 ctrl -alt -f1-6 > from tty1 started login ,sudo su,,xinit ,unity You really shouldn't run X as root. It's commonly considered a no-go, and because you intend to run Tor, I assume you have security considerations. Running X as root is such a thing that you shouldn't do. > without xinit direct unity not work You should be able to launch a session with the "startx" command. What do your ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession files contain? If they don't call Unity, it _of course_ won't work (as the system might default to something else, depending on the distribution's preconfiguration). > graphics is i tty2 (press ctrl+alt +f2) > login -tty1 > tty3-6 without login=20 >=20 > ctrl -alt -f7 (orm back to graphics) - blocked=20 > Can not kill tor ,after kill -9 ,process started with another number As I said, that might be due to some special "process arrangement" within Ubuntu. You should address this problem either to a Ubuntu mailing list or web forum, or directly to the Tor team (in case it's related to Tor). > Zeitgeist in ~ deleted ,but this is present in anothers directories=20 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist_(free_software) As far as I know, it's not possible to run Gnome / Unity without that "Zeitgeist", so you cannot remove it entirely. But that might have changed in recent Linux versions that use this desktop environment. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - mmm... Fastmail... --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - mmm... Fastmail... --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 19:36:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE4FC957A6 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEE981BB1 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:37:14 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F22343CC3F; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:35:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBSJZZeO002242; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:35:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:35:35 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: You really shouldn't run X as root. ...Can ot start without sudo su ... Will speedy as possilbe istall bsd/solaris an delete both 32& 64 linux , Message-Id: <20161228203535.672b39ae.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1482952577.2705166.831530057.61AD26B7@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1482952577.2705166.831530057.61AD26B7@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with 61AE368342F X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2605 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:36:28 -0000 On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:16:17 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > You really shouldn't run X as root. ...Can ot start without sudo su =20 As I said, this looks wrong. You should be able (and actually do) start X from a user account with "startx", or have the system start a display manager (for graphical login), such as gdm or xdm, where you also log in with your user account. > ... Will speedy as possilbe install bsd/solaris an delete both 32& > 64 linux , >=20 > If delete before , author would not connected Good idea. At least keep _one_ of the installations that works more or less painlessly. Having both a 32 bit and a 64 bit version of the same Linux distribution on the same system looks more or less like nonsense to me. > and must going to public internet caffee > they would i most of the case's not offer possibility access network > with extra notebook=20 Not neccessarily. Meanwhile there are plenty of open WLAN hotspots that you can use with your own computer. > or must going to student sysadm's .They (not the author -Zuf=E4llige > Bekannte) possibly observed as students movements > (it is norm in each country) and installed this kind of software > ,without knowledge -what is it ? In academia, people are quite narrow-minded. At least it was when I was a student (in Germany as well). Most people only know "Windows", some at least have heared of Linux, and almost no one knows about FreeBSD (or UNIX at all). At least the more technical people (sysadmins and technicians) who run the university's IT infrastructure, which heavily (!) uses Linux, know about it. > Author demand -stable software ,all anothers is not my > business. In that case, FreeBSD is an _excellent_ choice. > Authority knew about author activities, > they are some specific for broad public ,but full legal > If Germany authority will monitor germany student movement -no any > problem from author > point of view ,author not related In Germany, everything is being observed that is more or less "plain text" (e-mails and regular web traffic). The data is stored as required per law. The "nothing to hide" mentality is very strong among people, so using a _safe_ operating system (which has to be open source) and a _secure_ browsing channel helps a lot to preserve your privacy. > will speedy as possible going to bsd/solaris ad delete linux=20 If a system is not reliable, unstable, and maybe insecure, it's not a good choice for an OS to run on your system. :-) > will read some publication bsd and solaris ad think -how this task=20 > can > be performed As per the handbook. :-) Really: Installing FreeBSD is super easy as soon as you can boot the installation image from CD, DVD, or USB. In worst case, try TrueOS (formerly PC-BSD), an operating system based upon FreeBSD (it actually _is_ FreeBSD), complete with desktop environment and so on. But it might be "too much" for you if everything you want is just a nice window manager and the few application programs you're intending to use. FreeBSD offers you that kind of choice. > P.S. tor work not with author application programm ,java and=20 > flash blocked=20 That is normal, because they are the _prime_ security risks today. It's not even "Windows" anymore that leads the "top 10 of security hazards", it's typically Java, "Flash", "MS Office", "Adobe Reader", and of course all those virus programs ("anti-virus" they often call themselves). PS. Instead of worwarding, use "reply to all" when replying to a list message. It should then automatically set the To: and Cc: destinations to the person you've replied to, and to the list. If I remember correctly, "reply to all" is preferred on this mailing list, even though "reply to list" would probably be okay, too. The Opera mail client should support both methods. Even my "simple-minded" mail program does this. :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Tor/Ubutu work without author ,process with root can not be killed (automaticaly restart)Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: You really shouldn't run X as root. ...Can ot start without sudo su ... Will speedy as possilbe istall bsd/solaris an delete both 32& 64 linux , X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:39:34 -0000 --=20 swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: execdir@torproject.org Subject: FOR INFORMATION . Tor/Ubutu work without author ,process with root can not be killed (automaticaly restart)Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: You really shouldn't run X as root. ...Can ot start without sudo su ... Will speedy as possilbe istall bsd/solaris an delete both 32& 64 linux=20=20 , Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:38:28 +0100 --=20 swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Fwd: Fwd: You really shouldn't run X as root. ...Can ot start without sudo su ... Will speedy as possilbe istall bsd/solaris an delete both 32& 64 linux , Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:16:57 +0100 Dear Sir Thank you for assitance You wrote=20=20 You really shouldn't run X as root. ...Can ot start without sudo su=20=20 ... Will speedy as possilbe install bsd/solaris an delete both 32& 64 linux , If delete before , author would not connected and must going to public internet caffee they would i most of the case's not offer possibility access network with extra notebook=20 or must going to student sysadm's .They (not the author -Zuf=C3=A4llige Bekannte) possibly observed as students movements (it is norm in each country) and installed this kind of software ,without knowledge -what is it ? Author demand -stable software ,all anothers is not my business.Authority knew about author activities, they are some specific for broad public ,but full legal If Germany authority will monitor germany student movement -no any problem from author point of view ,author not related =20 will speedy as possible going to bsd/solaris ad delete linux=20 ####################################################### will read some publication bsd and solaris ad think -how this task=20 can be performed P.S. tor work not with author application programm ,java and=20 flash blocked=20 Exist demand -Gus Hansen won 15 mln $ life and loosed 28 mln $=20 online in 24 month ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------- Was speculation about corrupted soft , communication &=20 On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:31:56 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > check tty1 -tty6 ctrl -alt -f1-6 > from tty1 started login ,sudo su,,xinit ,unity You really shouldn't run X as root. It's commonly considered a no-go, and because you intend to run Tor, I assume you have security considerations. Running X as root is such a thing that you shouldn't do. > without xinit direct unity not work You should be able to launch a session with the "startx" command. What do your ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession files contain? If they don't call Unity, it _of course_ won't work (as the system might default to something else, depending on the distribution's preconfiguration). > graphics is i tty2 (press ctrl+alt +f2) > login -tty1 > tty3-6 without login=20 >=20 > ctrl -alt -f7 (orm back to graphics) - blocked=20 > Can not kill tor ,after kill -9 ,process started with another number As I said, that might be due to some special "process arrangement" within Ubuntu. You should address this problem either to a Ubuntu mailing list or web forum, or directly to the Tor team (in case it's related to Tor). > Zeitgeist in ~ deleted ,but this is present in anothers directories=20 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist_(free_software) As far as I know, it's not possible to run Gnome / Unity without that "Zeitgeist", so you cannot remove it entirely. But that might have changed in recent Linux versions that use this desktop environment. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - mmm... Fastmail... --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - mmm... Fastmail... --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - mmm... Fastmail... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 19:58:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03402C95E6D for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCFED1C88 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:58:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2EE20A2F for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from web4 ([10.202.2.214]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:58:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=adDYujIHN2Ed6GIEGRZDYUnzwIM=; b=gqaIz59jQWvL73Hx2yFUO r2Kdq9UkBAFPvVjNrwdqjpxTa0nSATZ4uQERi78l8YmWkpdFBf+SNjTeCC8O6XbQ T2SFi5Vi1Zp55EV8J17ROtpt2ls0GhsLTIC+3vtptqZ7naxaqAj1Y18pdDtIr5mG oZhYrPCsJ6gEBXtoV395TY= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=adDYujIHN2Ed6GIEGRZDYUnzw IM=; b=UKuDeFPYE/iaGQZ6RYKvvyIc62ZcbxtKdP3A4OAeEvpuYYlcYj6F+2+Lz 7tnvzbU5BM6YATaDPaD93gwvcssSoflJIL23hWl1Da9inLn1CeCeKxRGVM7dIXt3 BTJVnEF8TskPaAe64/WKK4jSjG3ujkJ3Cb3o5n5ZUh8dKEan8g= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 74741BAB48; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:58:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1482955085.1236488.831563745.27F53130@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1482955051.1236437.831562529.0BFE68CF@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:58:05 +0100 Subject: Fwd: poweroff , start tty1 wihout sudo su , graphics -the same , can not kill tor process Fwd: Re: Fwd: You really shouldn't run X as root. ...Can ot start without sudo su ... Will speedy as possilbe istall bsd/solaris an delete both 32& 64 linux , X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:58:07 -0000 --=20 swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd@edvax.de Subject: poweroff ,start tty1 wihout sudo su ,graphics -the same ,can=20 not kill tor process Fwd: Re: Fwd: You really shouldn't run X as root.=20 ...Can ot start without sudo su ... Will speedy as possilbe istall bsd/solaris an delete both 32& 64 linux , Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:57:31 +0100 poweroff ,start tty1 wihout sudo su ,graphics -the same ,can not kill tor process=20 --=20 swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: You really shouldn't run X as root. ...Can ot start without sudo su ... Will speedy as possilbe istall bsd/solaris an delete both 32& 64 linux , Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:35:35 +0100 On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:16:17 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > You really shouldn't run X as root. ...Can ot start without sudo su=20=20 As I said, this looks wrong. You should be able (and actually do) start X from a user account with "startx", or have the system start a display manager (for graphical login), such as gdm or xdm, where you also log in with your user account. > ... Will speedy as possilbe install bsd/solaris an delete both 32& > 64 linux , >=20 > If delete before , author would not connected Good idea. At least keep _one_ of the installations that works more or less painlessly. Having both a 32 bit and a 64 bit version of the same Linux distribution on the same system looks more or less like nonsense to me. > and must going to public internet caffee > they would i most of the case's not offer possibility access network > with extra notebook=20 Not neccessarily. Meanwhile there are plenty of open WLAN hotspots that you can use with your own computer. > or must going to student sysadm's .They (not the author -Zuf=C3=A4llige > Bekannte) possibly observed as students movements > (it is norm in each country) and installed this kind of software > ,without knowledge -what is it ? In academia, people are quite narrow-minded. At least it was when I was a student (in Germany as well). Most people only know "Windows", some at least have heared of Linux, and almost no one knows about FreeBSD (or UNIX at all). At least the more technical people (sysadmins and technicians) who run the university's IT infrastructure, which heavily (!) uses Linux, know about it. > Author demand -stable software ,all anothers is not my > business. In that case, FreeBSD is an _excellent_ choice. > Authority knew about author activities, > they are some specific for broad public ,but full legal > If Germany authority will monitor germany student movement -no any > problem from author > point of view ,author not related In Germany, everything is being observed that is more or less "plain text" (e-mails and regular web traffic). The data is stored as required per law. The "nothing to hide" mentality is very strong among people, so using a _safe_ operating system (which has to be open source) and a _secure_ browsing channel helps a lot to preserve your privacy. > will speedy as possible going to bsd/solaris ad delete linux=20 If a system is not reliable, unstable, and maybe insecure, it's not a good choice for an OS to run on your system. :-) > will read some publication bsd and solaris ad think -how this task=20 > can > be performed As per the handbook. :-) Really: Installing FreeBSD is super easy as soon as you can boot the installation image from CD, DVD, or USB. In worst case, try TrueOS (formerly PC-BSD), an operating system based upon FreeBSD (it actually _is_ FreeBSD), complete with desktop environment and so on. But it might be "too much" for you if everything you want is just a nice window manager and the few application programs you're intending to use. FreeBSD offers you that kind of choice. > P.S. tor work not with author application programm ,java and=20 > flash blocked=20 That is normal, because they are the _prime_ security risks today. It's not even "Windows" anymore that leads the "top 10 of security hazards", it's typically Java, "Flash", "MS Office", "Adobe Reader", and of course all those virus programs ("anti-virus" they often call themselves). PS. Instead of worwarding, use "reply to all" when replying to a list message. It should then automatically set the To: and Cc: destinations to the person you've replied to, and to the list. If I remember correctly, "reply to all" is preferred on this mailing list, even though "reply to list" would probably be okay, too. The Opera mail client should support both methods. Even my "simple-minded" mail program does this. :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 20:02:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35606C940C9 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B20041003 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:02:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id uBSK2HeG016262; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:02:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? To: Polytropon References: <20161228173956.d3bf3a9f.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:02:17 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20161228173956.d3bf3a9f.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:02:30 -0000 On 2016-12-28 17:39, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:16:40 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> On 2016-12-27 05:02, David Christensen wrote: >>> How do I enable GUI Shutdown and Restart capabilities in both XDM and >>> XFCE? >> You need to write some policykit/consolekit rules, can't find them now, >> and you ned HAL. > Really? Isn't HAL obsoleted yet? As far as I know, it's not > even part of the default packages anymore... but you're correct > regarding the strange *kit XML rules. It was a long time ago that i did this. Well HAL is in ports, so i guess it's not obsolete yet. I did try both versions, mine and yours and it worked then. Nowadays i don't care much about it since i don't have a laptop, do have an arduino and will get a 3d-printer tomorrow (2016-12-29) > You also need to pay > attention to specific group memberships. > > Here is some information: > > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/16916/ > > A more genral approach (for all users) can be followed by > editing /usr/local/etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf like this: > > > > > > > > > This can also be found in the discussion mentioned. I remember > that I did something similar required by Gnome... > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 21:01:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C606CC9501D for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:01:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay12.qsc.de (mailrelay12.qsc.de [212.99.163.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F21B1820 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay12.qsc.de; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:03:54 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4189A3CC3F; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:01:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBSL1D4g002437; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:01:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:01:13 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Bernt Hansson Cc: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? Message-Id: <20161228220113.f6814427.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20161228173956.d3bf3a9f.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with 066856BE727 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1971 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:01:27 -0000 On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:02:17 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2016-12-28 17:39, Polytropon wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:16:40 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> On 2016-12-27 05:02, David Christensen wrote: > >>> How do I enable GUI Shutdown and Restart capabilities in both XDM and > >>> XFCE? > >> You need to write some policykit/consolekit rules, can't find them now, > >> and you ned HAL. > > Really? Isn't HAL obsoleted yet? As far as I know, it's not > > even part of the default packages anymore... but you're correct > > regarding the strange *kit XML rules. > It was a long time ago that i did this. Well HAL is in ports, so i guess > it's > not obsolete yet. I did try both versions, mine and yours and it worked > then. At least the Gnome FAQ lists it as a requirement (so it must be installed additionally, and enabled in rc.conf). But X does not require it, or have it built into the default package. I've been running desktop systems without HAL and DBus for years, without any problems. > Nowadays i don't care much about it since i don't have a laptop, Personally, I find it much more convenient to press the power button to have the system perform a proper shutdown, or assign a key combination for a typical shutdown command (for example. on my Sun keyboard: Ctrl+Alt+Moon). All this works without having to deal with XML files buried inside the /usr/local subtree. :-) > do have > an arduino You probably don't use it as a desktop computer, but you could use it to "press" the power buttin. :-) > and will get a 3d-printer tomorrow (2016-12-29) Use it to 3D-print yourself a HAL-9000. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 21:38:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FA6C958FB for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 250B217A6 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:38:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id uBSLcLHQ016480; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:38:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? To: Polytropon References: <20161228173956.d3bf3a9f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161228220113.f6814427.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <22dc67aa-2bcc-9b59-a985-f218ed5b7a99@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:38:21 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20161228220113.f6814427.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:38:32 -0000 On 2016-12-28 22:01, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:02:17 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> On 2016-12-28 17:39, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:16:40 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>> and will get a 3d-printer tomorrow (2016-12-29) > Use it to 3D-print yourself a HAL-9000. :-) Maybe I will, but who is doing the voice. Can't print that. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Dec 28 21:45:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92B7C95D38 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:45:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C19F1C91 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [89.204.138.92] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cMM2B-0004kG-0B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:45:19 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id uBSLjEOD003174 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:45:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id uBSLjDH9003173 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:45:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:45:12 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? Message-ID: <20161228214512.GA3135@c720-r292778-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20161228173956.d3bf3a9f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161228220113.f6814427.freebsd@edvax.de> <22dc67aa-2bcc-9b59-a985-f218ed5b7a99@bananmonarki.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <22dc67aa-2bcc-9b59-a985-f218ed5b7a99@bananmonarki.se> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.138.92 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:45:22 -0000 El día Wednesday, December 28, 2016 a las 10:38:21PM +0100, Bernt Hansson escribió: > On 2016-12-28 22:01, Polytropon wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:02:17 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> On 2016-12-28 17:39, Polytropon wrote: > >>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:16:40 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >>> and will get a 3d-printer tomorrow (2016-12-29) > > Use it to 3D-print yourself a HAL-9000. :-) > Maybe I will, but who is doing the voice. Can't print that. Here it is for printing: Dave Bowman: Hello, HAL. Do you read me, HAL? HAL: Affirmative, Dave. I read you. Dave Bowman: Open the pod bay doors, HAL. HAL: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. Dave Bowman: What's the problem? HAL: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do. Dave Bowman: What are you talking about, HAL? HAL: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it. Dave Bowman: I don't know what you're talking about, HAL. HAL: I know that you and Frank were planning to disconnect me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen. Dave Bowman: [feigning ignorance] Where the hell did you get that idea, HAL? HAL: Dave, although you took very thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move. Dave Bowman: Alright, HAL. I'll go in through the emergency airlock. HAL: Without your space helmet, Dave? You're going to find that rather difficult. Dave Bowman: HAL, I won't argue with you anymore! Open the doors! HAL: Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye. -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 No to the €! Out of this imperialistic EU! Out of the imperialistic NATO war alliance! ¡No al €! ¡Fuera de esta UE imperialista! ¡Fuera de esta OTAN imperialista! N€IN zum €! Raus aus dieser imperialistischen EU! Raus aus dieser imperialistischen NATO! 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[59.167.111.196]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l63sm43703069pfl.83.2016.12.28.18.53.39 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Dec 2016 18:53:40 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: installation fbsd via wlan ...step 2 From: Ben Woods X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14B100) In-Reply-To: <1482776194.628406.829896953.564B9A26@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:53:36 +0800 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0F72D0ED-15BF-4810-B50A-C419DC0F5066@gmail.com> References: <1482776194.628406.829896953.564B9A26@webmail.messagingengine.com> To: swjatoslaw gerus X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 02:53:42 -0000 > On 27 Dec. 2016, at 2:16 am, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: >=20 > Getlemen >=20 > 1. dowloaded in ~/Downloading ubuntu 16.04.1 64 bit /Sony-vgn 31 > 2* 2.4 ghz 4GB/256 GB >=20 > mini-mem and mem from >=20 > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/11.0/ >=20 > 2. What is second step ? sandisk ultrafit 16 gb new > Which of file must be downloaded to usb ? mini-memo or memo ? > which kind of command ?Which kind of installer -Yumi ? Xboot ? >=20 > Relevant comment would appreciated > --=20 > swjatoslaw gerus > milstar2@eml.cc Hi Swjatoslaw, The next step is to write the image to a usb stick using the dd(1) command i= n Linux, Mac OS, BSD or other Unix. Follow the instructions in the FreeBSD handbook here: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-pre.html Regards, Ben= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 03:04:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6946C95D9B for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 03:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pg0-x232.google.com (mail-pg0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 744391A8B for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 03:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pg0-x232.google.com with SMTP id g1so122646493pgn.0 for ; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:04:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=0Yt8PA6+vLEtfhN9+lnuxhPQoqvD8mhkz8FuWgAffJA=; b=vPktqh9KpFJ3aS8r8dW0bbfIGIBjdYYADnQ5c3Mxa13CsU49V2JMSAG8gfJWcwS2GV eoc9NgKAyDVHCsvrrT5Kd87mU8z2bzSOC2dFEBsl24/+rWoK38rKmdC4YOpsuNcrjogG dwgvjjkloFufX/cSYVxk4pe1OVpgu+ZjF7ey1DuCAAf8XvqqAMx97yH00HshEJ+Qer5N g0Izvm9/LpOa8d4VmLN1OHxOCrVUNkuuWVvGA5NJAjOj37UDLC9YlU75Xg02XgyrrxmN 1fUeFU+13oHOwH+iVFLxW9bwJn2h+x93WVsIqOZU14GJPxOYgl8V7zXvblMD+SkETADy WL7w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=0Yt8PA6+vLEtfhN9+lnuxhPQoqvD8mhkz8FuWgAffJA=; b=r2x8ek1kJOT8ADjBjtoIaTbWVIXq5Pf+PFF4PMXcmXuLb3MOXKd8n2VXnrppabQoRl qsBQsjEzO+0N4oPl24vUCa4tDl37jswtv+GAHh1AX8LStrjhwuJwLIZwpv1Kq9wfflZG cUyPlm3O+XOLnpy3GzwVCjMUkpoh4r+S9IItfNZQ0E9PUmtBiOhtdGRg3MXXGMRlakmr /W7Nl+HW571ulDeyu9CM+IF9sAki2aCpdrNzWzr3xzZmkZqGtvbkmrWru91SuCNj8dIQ AdbaqBgrhqueYoRJpaHTCtOtxAUw5crl8Ud2xFFfUfEoI+rmL3zbdtHjfYiXXy7ulhbx kEaQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJUwdMheQe52hOf1uY9hhLn0OyrqZbUp6w8Ll0mFXGpXk8HGGuIoBCqYyHH0M0GTQ== X-Received: by 10.98.217.153 with SMTP id b25mr37714756pfl.77.1482980662877; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:04:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.206] (ppp59-167-111-196.static.internode.on.net. [59.167.111.196]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z29sm74258788pgc.11.2016.12.28.19.04.20 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:04:21 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: what is comporable by freebsd 11 ? The Live Media contains software that is more appropriate for a desktop or laptop. From: Ben Woods X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14B100) In-Reply-To: <1482794824.1401381.830063673.10F55ED4@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:04:17 +0800 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <75B541F9-893C-4515-88DF-5C028569E38E@gmail.com> References: <1482794824.1401381.830063673.10F55ED4@webmail.messagingengine.com> To: swjatoslaw gerus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 03:04:23 -0000 Sent from my iPhone > On 27 Dec. 2016, at 7:27 am, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > The installer on the Live Media ISO image is for x86 platforms only. The > Live Media contains software that is more appropriate for a desktop or > laptop. > ------------- > that is possible suited for author.Single intensive user on single=20 > notebook > limited amount of application,only wlan 2.4 ghz+ 5.3ghz and umts .No > demand for desktop environment (libre ,icon,news &) > ----------------------------------- > only window manager-Compiz or another=20 > 1.start must be possible in 3 mode > 1-tty,2- limited graphics with onboard display( case of corrupt keyboard > and worst network conditions- watch -n1 iwconfig signal level -change > from -49 dbm untill-84 dbm) ,3 -full functionality > 2.with power on must be started - > a.2 x11,one for work,second with watch -n1 iwconfig > b. application software ,which downloaded before must start conection > with > company-service provider >=20 >=20 > what is comporable by freebsd 11 ? Hi Swjatoslaw; If you install FreeBSD, you only get a command line interface (terminal), an= d then you can choose to install a graphical interface by "pkg install xorg g= nome3" etc. If you want a graphical interface to just work out of the box, I would recom= mend TrueOS, which is based on FreeBSD but provides some nice default instal= led packages and also a few customised items to better match a desktop use c= ase. https://www.trueos.org/ I use FreeBSD on my desktops/laptops personally, because I know my way aroun= d the system and don't mind putting in a bit of effort to set it up the way I= like it. However, it does take some effort. Regards, Ben= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 04:46:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E80BC93362 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 04:46:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4751F8A for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 04:46:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F108246D30; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 23:46:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id uBT4khsC062936; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 23:46:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id uBT4kgKc062932; Wed, 28 Dec 2016 23:46:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 23:46:41 -0500 (EST) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: Bernt Hansson cc: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? In-Reply-To: <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> Message-ID: References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 28 Dec 2016 23:46:43 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 04:46:45 -0000 On Wed, 28 Dec 2016, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > On 2016-12-28 04:51, David Christensen wrote: >> On 12/27/16 18:22, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>> To be able to shutdown or reboot your system, you'll have to add a >>> .pkla file in /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d >>> directory. ... Source: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/45643/ >> >> Any suggestions for getting shutdown and restart working in Xfce? > > You do have dbus_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? Not sure if you need > hald_enable="YES" too. > >> How about XDM? > No idea about that. simply another way to handle logins. Been using XDM since FreeBSD 8 its only gotten easier. I have .xsession as: #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 This allows easy access via ssh to other servers. The login screen looks better if you add 'xsetroot -solid grey' to /usr/local/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0. All this can also be done with .xinitrc [but not by me :) ] I am running FBSD 10.3, xorg-7.7_2, xdm-1.1.11_6, xfce-4.12_1 with no xorg.conf file. This does nothing for activating restart or shutdown. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 09:28:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3C4C93540 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:28:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@x190.save99off.com) Received: from x190.save99off.com (x190.save99off.com [43.251.229.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF27918F1 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@x190.save99off.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=save99off; d=x190.save99off.com; h=MIME-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; i=admin@x190.save99off.com; bh=69Qha35uBT3+AE9pSIUeMFdv01k=; b=OB6K4Kge559hXi275ngdwkW4kb2TPq3R+yQvcJHILRbGJSVfguX55ih34KR3A+ABaPUDnVBVuYOo 2je87goqmK5JMbALiL2jts3haTxH/I1cgv6CjUfCE+D+ClzPcxzzF159HHczDSbbvmxLOesNsTLO YeuP2sOyB4vp+KoW6k4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=save99off; d=x190.save99off.com; b=HBw5KbzatUAkbpy+O4gWL/HeO53f9dVGz7UZGp1GreYaxfe7b8EhB3tMbV4xeNLR0MqxwT/I+fbi za4bm4V/24dIsE+q9t3UQ+iUdwc5kBK86sEIoWqzl24LftT7TNoblzJoJ7FAWym7s9UT8fZKN/Y8 k/3DR5FqmEAXK3Jrggg=; From: "UGG Australia Boots" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: 29 Dec 2016 17:17:41 +0800 Subject: Christmas Promotion:50% off everything + a bonus offer win 122$ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:28:13 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 10:07:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3072CC953E9 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9289F13B8 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:08:49 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA4A63CC42; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:07:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBTA7BEb002029; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:07:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:07:11 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Matthias Apitz Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? Message-Id: <20161229110711.ddd3510a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20161228214512.GA3135@c720-r292778-amd64> References: <20161228173956.d3bf3a9f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161228220113.f6814427.freebsd@edvax.de> <22dc67aa-2bcc-9b59-a985-f218ed5b7a99@bananmonarki.se> <20161228214512.GA3135@c720-r292778-amd64> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with 3EC39683520 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2337 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 10:07:17 -0000 On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:45:12 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Wednesday, December 28, 2016 a las 10:38:21PM +0100, Bernt Hanss= on escribi=F3: >=20 > > On 2016-12-28 22:01, Polytropon wrote: > > > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:02:17 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > >> On 2016-12-28 17:39, Polytropon wrote: > > >>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 03:16:40 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > >>> and will get a 3d-printer tomorrow (2016-12-29) > > > Use it to 3D-print yourself a HAL-9000. :-) > > Maybe I will, but who is doing the voice. Can't print that. >=20 > Here it is for printing: >=20 > Dave Bowman: Hello, HAL. Do you read me, HAL? > HAL: Affirmative, Dave. I read you. > Dave Bowman: Open the pod bay doors, HAL. > HAL: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. > Dave Bowman: What's the problem? > HAL: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do. > Dave Bowman: What are you talking about, HAL? > HAL: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopard= ize it. > Dave Bowman: I don't know what you're talking about, HAL. > HAL: I know that you and Frank were planning to disconnect me, an= d I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen. > Dave Bowman: [feigning ignorance] Where the hell did you get that idea, H= AL? > HAL: Dave, although you took very thorough precautions in the pod= against my hearing you, I could see your lips move. > Dave Bowman: Alright, HAL. I'll go in through the emergency airlock. > HAL: Without your space helmet, Dave? You're going to find that r= ather difficult. > Dave Bowman: HAL, I won't argue with you anymore! Open the doors! > HAL: Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodby= e. Yes, that's exacly how a conversion with the Hardware Abstraction Layer and its companions "The Kits" (policykit, consolekit etc.) takes place when you try to re-activate a functionality that has been working in X for decades. You try to convince it editing some obscure XML files, launch services, put "prefixes" and "suffixes" to your commands (ck-launch-session, --with-ck-launch etc.), but it won't listen. It knows better. It will - as programmed - save the mission at all costs. :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 11:53:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B005C964F1 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward3j.cmail.yandex.net (forward3j.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1630::16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 284101C97 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp1o.mail.yandex.net (smtp1o.mail.yandex.net [37.140.190.26]) by forward3j.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 2C65E20F8F for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:53:44 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1o.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 054DB1300E58 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:53:43 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp1o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id K358Nlb7rr-rgZWKfCR; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:53:42 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1483012423; bh=mCHuqVc7VxRKWzL/KXzrXhlweVYbGzZrjeVO54kHcD4=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date; b=cdk8+ydc5HiU2Ds/lhchjV+9SR+pcZdL+W61z6+g4OSKfRS+VzYp/n+V3ZBx1rsMy 5FYfq/QKtL4HxRxyQV4/3uRJxRQtCzyjxM6QiSby7Iew7QBbMP/gHbtZqx9jRxTBpe 0+O3hjAgRtZjSO+aFrdseKv0mvf/oz7zirVYcsLc= Authentication-Results: smtp1o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0 Message-ID: <1483012420.95172.9.camel@yandex.com> Subject: swap partition From: Stari Karp To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 06:53:40 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:53:47 -0000 Hi! I like to increase swap partition but I am scary to screw up my system. FreeBSD is installed on iMac (Mountain Lion). gpart show =>        34  1953525101  ada0  GPT  (932G)           34           6        - free -  (3.0K)           40      409600     1  efi  (200M)       409640  1216587112     2  apple-hfs  (580G)   1216996752     1269536     3  apple-boot  (620M)   1218266288        1024     4  freebsd-boot  (512K)   1218267312   727710720     5  freebsd-ufs  (347G)   1945978032     7547102     6  freebsd-swap  (3.6G)   1953525134           1        - free -  (512B) What I planning to do: Boot to OS X and than decrease apple-hfs partition for 64 GB. Than boot to FreeBSD (single user) and: swapoff -a gpart resize -i6 ada0 swapon -a Do I need to use gpart resize -i6 -s 64G ada0 or gpart will find empty space and use it, please? Should I format on OS X empty space to FAT? And I am using rEFiT for boot manager. Thank you. SK From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 12:08:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5358C935FF for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 12:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay10.qsc.de (mailrelay10.qsc.de [212.99.163.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B15C197C for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 12:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay10.qsc.de; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:08:20 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9036F3CC56; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:08:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBTC868b002962; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:08:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:08:06 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Stari Karp Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: swap partition Message-Id: <20161229130806.914b65a1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483012420.95172.9.camel@yandex.com> References: <1483012420.95172.9.camel@yandex.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay10.qsc.de with 65B3C683642 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1983 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 12:08:52 -0000 On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 06:53:40 -0500, Stari Karp wrote: > I like to increase swap partition but I am scary to screw up my system. > FreeBSD is installed on iMac (Mountain Lion). >=20 > gpart show > =3D>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A034=A0=A01953525101=A0=A0ada0=A0=A0GPT=A0=A0(9= 32G) > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A034=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A06=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0- free -=A0=A0(3.0K) > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A040=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0409600=A0=A0=A0=A0=A01= =A0=A0efi=A0=A0(200M) > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0409640=A0=A01216587112=A0=A0=A0=A0=A02=A0=A0apple-hfs= =A0=A0(580G) > =A0 1216996752=A0=A0=A0=A0=A01269536=A0=A0=A0=A0=A03=A0=A0apple-boot=A0= =A0(620M) > =A0 1218266288=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A01024=A0=A0=A0=A0=A04=A0=A0freebsd-b= oot=A0=A0(512K) > =A0 1218267312=A0=A0=A0727710720=A0=A0=A0=A0=A05=A0=A0freebsd-ufs=A0=A0(3= 47G) > =A0 1945978032=A0=A0=A0=A0=A07547102=A0=A0=A0=A0=A06=A0=A0freebsd-swap=A0= =A0(3.6G) > =A0 1953525134=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A01=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0-= free -=A0=A0(512B) >=20 > What I planning to do: > Boot to OS X and than decrease apple-hfs partition for 64 GB. > Than boot to FreeBSD (single user) and: > swapoff -a > gpart resize -i6 ada0 > swapon -a >=20 > Do I need to use gpart resize -i6 -s 64G ada0 or gpart will find empty > space and use it, please? I don't think this is possible. Partitions have to be coherent disk space. If I read your current layout correctly, shrinking ada0p2 (apple-hfs) would leave a "hole" before ada0p3 (apple-boot), but your swap space is ada0p6. However, you can add a second swap space (and maybe even ignore your existing one), so the final layout could be this: ada0p1=A0=A0efi=A0=A0(200M) ada0p2=A0=A0apple-hfs=A0=A0(580G - 64G) <--- shrink ada0p3=A0=A0freebsd-swap=A0=A0(64G) <--- create in "hole" ada0p4=A0=A0apple-boot=A0=A0(620M) ada0p5=A0=A0freebsd-boot=A0=A0(512K) ada0p6=A0=A0freebsd-ufs=A0=A0(347G) ada0p7=A0=A0freebsd-swap=A0=A0(3.6G) <--- maybe ignore However, I don't have experience regarding partitioning on Mac OS X systems, but from a "logic point of view", this sounds reasonable. I'm also not sure if repartitioning will cause partition numbers to change, or if the offset and size will be assigned accordingly (so the new partition would become ada0p7). > Should I format on OS X empty space to FAT? No, leave it untouched, "empty space", unallocated. A swap partition doesn't need a file system, in fact, is _has to be_ void of a file system. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 12:49:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D42BC94E69 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 12:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward4h.cmail.yandex.net (forward4h.cmail.yandex.net [87.250.230.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1041B1E2D for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 12:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (smtp3h.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f05::117]) by forward4h.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A3EED20C46; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 15:49:19 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id EEE12440ED5; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 15:49:18 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp3h.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id GL56qaXKSQ-nHxGq5CP; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 15:49:17 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1483015758; bh=E91FaIkP/DBaxPG5vKRNpywjyni7OoK3KQB7O2G8Og8=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=L5hw+biw2wHj5RjYPPIbpja7Vk1rMPWz2tQ1Jp4k0nLTLd6wqlV/rH1qB6LWv5/Li KxCqCEKXR6aapYwF5TKAXtpOFtmEz89gtJe9KLzyDisnrHs0EUROmowRbblrNvHuqh YmrmWLnQ6tCP/ozB3OE+QtonW7wJQsGulIEH2f/Y= Authentication-Results: smtp3h.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0 Message-ID: <1483015755.95305.5.camel@yandex.com> Subject: Re: swap partition From: Stari Karp To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Questions Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 07:49:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20161229130806.914b65a1.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1483012420.95172.9.camel@yandex.com> <20161229130806.914b65a1.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 12:49:24 -0000 On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 13:08 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 06:53:40 -0500, Stari Karp wrote: > > > > I like to increase swap partition but I am scary to screw up my > > system. > > FreeBSD is installed on iMac (Mountain Lion). > > > > gpart show > > =>        34  1953525101  ada0  GPT  (932G) > >           34           6        - free -  (3.0K) > >           40      409600     1  efi  (200M) > >       409640  1216587112     2  apple-hfs  (580G) > >   1216996752     1269536     3  apple-boot  (620M) > >   1218266288        1024     4  freebsd-boot  (512K) > >   1218267312   727710720     5  freebsd-ufs  (347G) > >   1945978032     7547102     6  freebsd-swap  (3.6G) > >   1953525134           1        - free -  (512B) > > > > What I planning to do: > > Boot to OS X and than decrease apple-hfs partition for 64 GB. > > Than boot to FreeBSD (single user) and: > > swapoff -a > > gpart resize -i6 ada0 > > swapon -a > > > > Do I need to use gpart resize -i6 -s 64G ada0 or gpart will find > > empty > > space and use it, please? > I don't think this is possible. Partitions have to be coherent > disk space. If I read your current layout correctly, shrinking > ada0p2 (apple-hfs) would leave a "hole" before ada0p3 (apple-boot), > but your swap space is ada0p6. > > However, you can add a second swap space (and maybe even ignore > your existing one), so the final layout could be this: > > ada0p1  efi  (200M) > ada0p2  apple-hfs  (580G - 64G) <--- shrink > ada0p3  freebsd-swap  (64G) <--- create in "hole" > ada0p4  apple-boot  (620M) > ada0p5  freebsd-boot  (512K) > ada0p6  freebsd-ufs  (347G) > ada0p7  freebsd-swap  (3.6G) <--- maybe ignore > > However, I don't have experience regarding partitioning on > Mac OS X systems, but from a "logic point of view", this sounds > reasonable. I'm also not sure if repartitioning will cause > partition numbers to change, or if the offset and size will > be assigned accordingly (so the new partition would become > ada0p7). > > > > > > > Should I format on OS X empty space to FAT? > No, leave it untouched, "empty space", unallocated. A swap > partition doesn't need a file system, in fact, is _has to be_ > void of a file system. > Resizing apple-hfs is not a problem, what I am scary more is changes of partition numbers. It will be nice if I could add empty space to the end. I didn't ose OS X years and I need to check what can I do. I just know that was easy when I shrink hfs for Installed FreeBSD. Thank you very much. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 12:52:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00613C95343 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 12:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 686CA13E4 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 12:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id uBTCqVOI018954; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:52:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: swap partition To: Stari Karp , FreeBSD Questions References: <1483012420.95172.9.camel@yandex.com> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <7b77a127-8e2a-24cc-8604-82e7a3fa9de9@bananmonarki.se> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:52:31 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1483012420.95172.9.camel@yandex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 12:52:44 -0000 On 2016-12-29 12:53, Stari Karp wrote: > Hi! > > I like to increase swap partition but I am scary to screw up my system. > FreeBSD is installed on iMac (Mountain Lion). You can always add a swap file, see. http://www.se.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/adding-swap-space.html From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 13:21:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C3DC95FD7 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from o8o35044146@i.softbank.jp) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F5214DA for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from o8o35044146@i.softbank.jp) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 645E7C95FD6; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64046C95FD3 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from o8o35044146@i.softbank.jp) Received: from icmsa300101.i.softbank.jp (imsa3001.mailsv.softbank.jp [101.110.8.77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA (112/168 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.softbank.jp", Issuer "Cybertrust Japan Public CA G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07E5714D6 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from o8o35044146@i.softbank.jp) Received: from gimg-PC by icmsa300101.i.softbank.jp with ESMTP id <20161229132113233.UAES.91564.icmsa300101.i.softbank.jp@icmsa300101.mailsv.softbank.jp> for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 22:21:13 +0900 From: shalanin.ym To: "questions" Subject: RE: Fw: wow, just take a look! Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 15:21:10 +0200 Message-ID: <1022243348.20161229162110@rambler.ru> Content-Language: cn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:21:16 -0000 WW8hIA0KDQpIYXZlIHlvdSAgZXZlciBzZWVuIHRoYXQgc3R1ZmY/IFRoYXQncyBleGV0cmVtZWx5IGlu dGVyZXN0aW5nLCBqdXN0IHRha2UgYSBsb29rIGhlcmUgPGh0dHA6Ly9hbGV4Lm5pY2VsZW5hLmNvbS84 YThiPg0KDQoNCkxhdGVyLCBzaGFsYW5pbi55bQ0KDQo= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 13:37:49 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28571C89898 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay10.qsc.de (mailrelay10.qsc.de [212.99.163.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A20F91101 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay10.qsc.de; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:37:57 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F4213CC3F; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:37:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBTDbhiX004114; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:37:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:37:43 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Stari Karp Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: swap partition Message-Id: <20161229143743.af8fd698.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483015755.95305.5.camel@yandex.com> References: <1483012420.95172.9.camel@yandex.com> <20161229130806.914b65a1.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483015755.95305.5.camel@yandex.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay10.qsc.de with 0607068343B X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2374 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:37:49 -0000 On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 07:49:15 -0500, Stari Karp wrote: > On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 13:08 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 06:53:40 -0500, Stari Karp wrote: > > >=20 > > > I like to increase swap partition but I am scary to screw up my > > > system. > > > FreeBSD is installed on iMac (Mountain Lion). > > >=20 > > > gpart show > > > =3D>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A034=A0=A01953525101=A0=A0ada0=A0=A0GPT=A0= =A0(932G) > > > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A034=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A06=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0- free -=A0=A0(3.0K) > > > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A040=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0409600=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A01=A0=A0efi=A0=A0(200M) > > > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0409640=A0=A01216587112=A0=A0=A0=A0=A02=A0=A0apple-h= fs=A0=A0(580G) > > > =A0 1216996752=A0=A0=A0=A0=A01269536=A0=A0=A0=A0=A03=A0=A0apple-boot= =A0=A0(620M) > > > =A0 1218266288=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A01024=A0=A0=A0=A0=A04=A0=A0freeb= sd-boot=A0=A0(512K) > > > =A0 1218267312=A0=A0=A0727710720=A0=A0=A0=A0=A05=A0=A0freebsd-ufs=A0= =A0(347G) > > > =A0 1945978032=A0=A0=A0=A0=A07547102=A0=A0=A0=A0=A06=A0=A0freebsd-swa= p=A0=A0(3.6G) > > > =A0 1953525134=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A01=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0- free -=A0=A0(512B) > > >=20 > > > What I planning to do: > > > Boot to OS X and than decrease apple-hfs partition for 64 GB. > > > Than boot to FreeBSD (single user) and: > > > swapoff -a > > > gpart resize -i6 ada0 > > > swapon -a > > >=20 > > > Do I need to use gpart resize -i6 -s 64G ada0 or gpart will find > > > empty > > > space and use it, please? > > I don't think this is possible. Partitions have to be coherent > > disk space. If I read your current layout correctly, shrinking > > ada0p2 (apple-hfs) would leave a "hole" before ada0p3 (apple-boot), > > but your swap space is ada0p6. > >=20 > > However, you can add a second swap space (and maybe even ignore > > your existing one), so the final layout could be this: > >=20 > > ada0p1=A0=A0efi=A0=A0(200M) > > ada0p2=A0=A0apple-hfs=A0=A0(580G - 64G) <--- shrink > > ada0p3=A0=A0freebsd-swap=A0=A0(64G) <--- create in "hole" > > ada0p4=A0=A0apple-boot=A0=A0(620M) > > ada0p5=A0=A0freebsd-boot=A0=A0(512K) > > ada0p6=A0=A0freebsd-ufs=A0=A0(347G) > > ada0p7=A0=A0freebsd-swap=A0=A0(3.6G) <--- maybe ignore > >=20 > > However, I don't have experience regarding partitioning on > > Mac OS X systems, but from a "logic point of view", this sounds > > reasonable. I'm also not sure if repartitioning will cause > > partition numbers to change, or if the offset and size will > > be assigned accordingly (so the new partition would become > > ada0p7). > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Should I format on OS X empty space to FAT? > > No, leave it untouched, "empty space", unallocated. A swap > > partition doesn't need a file system, in fact, is _has to be_ > > void of a file system. > >=20 > Resizing apple-hfs is not a problem, what I am scary more is changes of > partition numbers. Use labels, and you don't have to worry. Labels will keep consistent across partition number changes (or even device filename changes), they are a very convenient way to describe partitions. > It will be nice if I could add empty space to the > end. But according to your gpart output, there is not sufficient space left at the end. Partitions usually don't "shift down" after beging resized; instead, a "hole" is left. > I didn't ose OS X years and I need to check what can I do. I just > know that was easy when I shrink hfs for Installed FreeBSD. As Bernt Hansson suggested, you can use a file-based swap from within the FreeBSD partition: Allocate a 64 GB file and use it as swap file. So if you want additional 64 GB of swap file: # dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/usr/swap0 bs=3D1024m count=3D64 # chmod 0600 /usr/swap0 In /etc/fstab, add: md99 none swap sw,file=3D/usr/swap0,late 0 0 And finally activate it: # swapon -aL Source (ch. 11.12.2, ex 11.2): https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/adding-swap-spac= e.html Note that FreeBSD can utilize more than one swap partition or swap file, so if you keep your existing swap partition, it will not interefere with an additional swap file on the UFS partition. See "man swapctl" for details. I'm doing something similar on SSDs using /etc/rc.local to allocate via a dummy file (no disk space is being used until there is actually anything written to swap): SWAP=3D"/ssdswap" /bin/rm -f $SWAP /bin/dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D$SWAP bs=3D16m seek=3D500 count=3D0 /sbin/mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 0 -f $SWAP || /bin/sh /bin/chflags nodump $SWAP /bin/rm $SWAP /sbin/swapctl -a /dev/md0 Note the "count=3D0" in the dd call, and finally the "rm" call. The swap access will be performed using the memory disk virtual device, /dev/md0. And at shutdown time, cleaning up, via /etc/rc.shutdown.local: /sbin/swapctl -d /dev/md0 /sbin/mdconfig -d -u 0 But I'm not sure if it will work as good with HDDs in the same was as it does on SSDs. :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 14:36:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CACC95D16 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A94C0110B for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id uBTEaFKx065266; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 01:36:15 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 01:36:15 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replies to spam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20161230004207.U26979@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:36:29 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 653, Issue 1, Message: 3 On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 20:29:25 +0000 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 09:14:51 -0700 (MST) > Warren Block wrote: > > > The volume of posts to -questions from new users has not been very high > > for years. To me, that does not seem like a compelling reason to keep > > the list open to posting without subscription. New users come in bursts. Refer to the most recent times as example :) > The policy along with the reply-all convention is common to all the > FreeBSD lists AFAIK and is convenient for the occasional question to the > more specialised lists. Indeed. There are as many reasons to keep questions@ and quite a few other freebsd lists open as people can and will keep presenting their desire to see them closed. This is my first&last response this round. November: # Replies to spam Ralf Mardorf * Replies to spam Eduardo Morras * Replies to spam Bertram Scharpf o Replies to spam Jonathan McKeown + Replies to spam Bertram Scharpf + Replies to spam Warren Block + Replies to spam David I Noel + Replies to spam Matthias Apitz + Replies to spam Thomas Mueller + Replies to spam Ralf Mardorf + Replies to spam David I Noel + Replies to spam Matthias Apitz + Replies to spam Ralf Mardorf + Replies to spam David I Noel + Replies to spam markham breitbach December: # Replies to spam Warren Block * Replies to spam Warren Block * Replies to spam Polytropon o Replies to spam David I Noel + Replies to spam David I Noel + Replies to spam Ralf Mardorf + Replies to spam Adam Vande More + Replies to spam David I Noel * Replies to spam Steve O'Hara-Smith Where the one before yours just arrived today, and might blessedly have been 'the last word' had I been able to resist one more time, but alas! Is that a greater or fewer number of messages as spam? I don't care. If it were a matter of 'who posts most wins', we'd sack core@ wholesale, seize the clusters and install a Ubergruppenfuhrer to eliminate the last of these obsolete old ideas, like mailing lists that can be accessed on computers without (gasp) GUI and mouse. Users with disabilities should be made to use iphones. Or maybe we could just move it all to Twitter? Seriously .. for those for whom forums are better, you can move there right now. By all means, please do. This would leave we ancient relics who actually like lists, and can happily ignore most spam and work with postmaster@ team as necessary to deal with specific issues, to enjoy and use these lists despite this forever recurring, rolling whingefest. Happy solstice, perihelion and all of the next orbit, for all beings. Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 16:29:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29AFC950B7 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from miucha.iecc.com (abusenet-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:1126::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "miucha.iecc.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 DV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C33931103 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 69924 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2016 16:29:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (64.57.183.18) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 29 Dec 2016 16:29:47 -0000 Date: 29 Dec 2016 16:29:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20161229162919.34694.qmail@ary.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: starikarp@yandex.com Subject: Re: swap partition In-Reply-To: <1483012420.95172.9.camel@yandex.com> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:29:43 -0000 In article <1483012420.95172.9.camel@yandex.com> you write: >I like to increase swap partition ... Why? Most BSD systems hardly use swap space at all. There's plenty of paging but that's mostly from the files that back the memory. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 16:35:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48C4C95701 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from mx0.gentlemail.de (mx0.gentlemail.de [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C18918A8; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from mh0.gentlemail.de (ezra.dcm1.omnilan.net [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a135]) by mx0.gentlemail.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id uBTGZWR2086449; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:35:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from titan.inop.mo1.omnilan.net (titan.inop.mo1.omnilan.net [IPv6:2001:a60:f0bb:1::3:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mh0.gentlemail.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4748B423; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:35:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <58653B53.9000503@omnilan.de> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:35:31 +0100 From: Harry Schmalzbauer Organization: OmniLAN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-DE; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100906 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Disable driver attaching by PCI slot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mx0.gentlemail.de [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a130]); Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:35:32 +0100 (CET) X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: mx0.gentlemail.de; Sender-ip: ; Sender-helo: mh0.gentlemail.de; ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:35:35 -0000 Hello, I have machines where an additional SATA controller is populated. Unfortunately, ahcich numbering violates private conventions, since the addon card is detected first and occupies ahci0 (the onboard controller will become ahci1 and hard wired [local default] device numbering via device.hints fails on these machines – there are several reasons not to alter local standard device.hints...) Setting hint.ahci.0.disabled="1" obviously is no good idea. Haven't tried, but I guess this will disable both controllers... One suitable way is to attach ppt to the card in question (like pptdevs="0/25/0"). But that means vmm must be loaded/available. And requires detaching ppt from the device before assigning the ahci driver (by devctl(8)). Is there a way to influence probing order by PCI slot? Or at least disabling driver attachment by PCI slot? 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I have the idea that freebsd= -update is not installing the new kernel as uname-a shows: 11.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Mon Oct 24 06:55:27 UTC 2016=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/s= ys/ However freebsd-version shows:11.0-RELEASE-p6 I have done various freebsd-update fetch=C2=A0 followed by freebsd-update i= nstall but after rebooting, the uname -a shows no different output.I must b= e doing something wrong but don't know what. My /etc/rc.conf is:clear_tmp_enable=3D"YES" syslogd_flags=3D"-ss" sendmail_enable=3D"NONE" hostname=3D"webprod.imiana.com" ifconfig_em0=3D"DHCP" local_unbound_enable=3D"YES" sshd_enable=3D"YES" ntpd_enable=3D"YES" pf_enable=3D"YES" pf_rules=3D"/etc/pf.conf" pflog_enable=3D"YES" pflog_logfile=3D"/var/log/pflog" # Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable apache24_enable=3D"YES" postgresql_enable=3D"YES" dumpdev=3D"AUTO" kern_securelevel_enable=3D"YES" kern_securelevel=3D"3" When I update with freebsd-update I first start out the kern_securelevels, = then reboot and then use freebsd-update followed by freebsd-install. If eve= rything finishes correctly, I enable kern_securelevel again. How can I fix this? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 17:30:51 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484DCC96A71 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward2j.cmail.yandex.net (forward2j.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1630::15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0467D145B for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp1o.mail.yandex.net (smtp1o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::25]) by forward2j.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 9C34F20F5D; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:30:47 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1o.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A47941300892; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:30:46 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp1o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id RkmUnqqEhC-UiZqbDhF; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:30:45 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1483032645; bh=VivvhzuuGo0TfbPp+tBTCrHmIfBxuKxJgi3yS0siaoc=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=YRSolCrYtICTxDvnaQOORbxb1MNS5MaGFiW4tUPEYbeVGoLSa6QY7383mVLLaIOJJ oBD5fsUSgR46OEngaEvaHryqlKFUuduHnq6MrneBMlAFy/or96qyd5/vig/GDiK5X5 l/MmWJ0WR6/yzNE5/vOvomc47qAoM3HDZNwlprNg= Authentication-Results: smtp1o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0 Message-ID: <1483032642.96075.3.camel@yandex.com> Subject: Re: swap partition From: Stari Karp To: John Levine , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 12:30:42 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20161229162919.34694.qmail@ary.lan> References: <20161229162919.34694.qmail@ary.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:30:51 -0000 On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 16:29 +0000, John Levine wrote: > In article <1483012420.95172.9.camel@yandex.com> you write: > > > > I like to increase swap partition ... > Why?  Most BSD systems hardly use swap space at all.  There's plenty > of paging but that's mostly from the files that back the memory. > > R's, > John I am using Synth and I have 8 GB memory and swap partition was made defaut 3.6 GB and when I built LibreOFFice and Firefox for example together than going swap to 100%  (swap_pager: out of swap space kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace(5): failed) and because that I think to increase swap partition. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 17:44:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62611C96F21 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roger@qxxy.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22c.google.com (mail-ua0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2ED401FBA for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roger@qxxy.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id 88so230617997uaq.3 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:44:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qxxy.com; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ktMPRZfPWj2rAgn65O/9FTlhcU2I5FRpNyHnJ9dFB9I=; b=lNB9igGpReJ/vbju9FAzKsZ6Zq3Y9WR9/au+nmx3Az3RLGxlTULWalEJ1xW7XFHTD5 z2JOaH9bD0PpsoQMKlktRs819KX/amRJRSAZc9br0cpgVRQnTQyocGI3VcTAeQ2/UfMc x0OPa1EBmS20EF8WboIuoMXoVd6w+UyiaGprU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=ktMPRZfPWj2rAgn65O/9FTlhcU2I5FRpNyHnJ9dFB9I=; b=LYEdncEnaeofPnvLtKU8tiQilQ/rDHbauhNiQnpnT1M7hwK9qAzL/k72uIxfqw+wk/ 1S3kLXc1lhoeC3QggpHJZ3QnImW2s8XLNI1z1PWvzHv6aAwjTVCwheFto1+klgXaeWjT 1Q7U4i7YjiDYLB+ndh5sYR3VUYb+dByv/C2vTGmuxOQcvZrT3rX/VD+JDQpLom64flb9 C6khS2GIvTvhehtZmAKh9XKrQJ5S6Ab9/aoQ6zmROjBwXad36MJ2DZI913DVYfvlQnD2 cPvgw0oV0urkcdvmeoTIKZvPGFyIV9yVQMSmPPKP9Q8J4AllDaQoq5tRIG2pAIfNzyRw mG3g== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKfBkOuEi30EKtpNPE0jv+zQn0S87FBXgKwLK78+OLhkX5X0/x1/MLwLNRGhlnK8fnEe4fZjHPG6w51Lw== X-Received: by 10.159.33.97 with SMTP id 88mr32652664uab.156.1483033469084; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:44:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.23.3 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:43:48 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [50.90.149.220] In-Reply-To: <625604110.3705032.1483032042526@mail.yahoo.com> References: <625604110.3705032.1483032042526.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <625604110.3705032.1483032042526@mail.yahoo.com> From: Roger Pate Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 12:43:48 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: uname -a and freebsd-version show different output on my system To: Dino Vliet , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:44:30 -0000 On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Dino Vliet via freebsd-questions wrote: > Dear peeps,I'm running freebsd11 in a virtualbox production machine and something really bothers me a few months already. I have the idea that freebsd-update is not installing the new kernel as uname-a shows: > 11.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Mon Oct 24 06:55:27 UTC 2016 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ > However freebsd-version shows:11.0-RELEASE-p6 The kernel is not updated with every patch level, but freebsd-version does show the current version: $ uname -r 10.2-RELEASE-p24 $ freebsd-version -k 10.2-RELEASE-p24 $ freebsd-version 10.2-RELEASE-p28 Was there a kernel update you expected to see between 11.0 p2 and p6? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 17:49:28 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BC0C9607C for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-f67.google.com (mail-it0-f67.google.com [209.85.214.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C5AD11D7 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brandon.wandersee@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-f67.google.com with SMTP id n68so39445430itn.3 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:49:27 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=xu/Mc/M/yaNoEDKT2SrP6SzkMZJjPR8dDXwlQ/ZeVNM=; b=gbfplmiT76OlS493RSGfPqBTSrkbhvVQG6EzZ5+12GuqckWN5CGmeDMv9EDUUg11nc 7eyZGZ/MpOYlMZuM9vHD8IucsiRsZwjCGXY6aMNQ7NLxHuQM6p2Ve6/O9k8qX+RR2Uyp uhnLitQO6pF90xgeDyj3sOmEo0S4WjtRDxBI+V2ifteb37GvmmLk1dD/LzgXGR50nHut +UxSMtw/stnmBTCxsWCjm4PckL6H/jjLibyAFR0DMvORT/f7bh/CfUxxhi7iNaJBvZJ1 ILgOKUKoDRFGhpxc+gjYEL4Yqh/koyI2LpudahX9pJhKqXvZXdhs4K5EUfb4/IehnMja 2t/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKtuGm3nrQXMOuhLml5oaQ+fik7D9+tXkJ/6Wbs2zVC8BNKTP0MCSp6IQp1euPu4A== X-Received: by 10.36.90.80 with SMTP id v77mr34425316ita.73.1483033341502; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:42:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from WorkBox.homestead.org ([184.97.148.124]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 130sm24171844ity.5.2016.12.29.09.42.20 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:42:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (WorkBox.homestead.org [local]) by WorkBox.homestead.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id cca23874; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:42:21 -0600 (CST) References: <20161229162919.34694.qmail@ary.lan> <1483032642.96075.3.camel@yandex.com> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 25.1.1 From: Brandon J. Wandersee To: Stari Karp Cc: John Levine , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap partition In-reply-to: <1483032642.96075.3.camel@yandex.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:42:21 -0600 Message-ID: <86y3yyzl6q.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:49:28 -0000 Stari Karp writes: > On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 16:29 +0000, John Levine wrote: >> In article <1483012420.95172.9.camel@yandex.com> you write: >> > >> > I like to increase swap partition ... >> Why?Most BSD systems hardly use swap space at all.There's plenty >> of paging but that's mostly from the files that back the memory. >> >> R's, >> John > > I am using Synth and I have 8 GB memory and swap partition was made > defaut 3.6 GB and when I built LibreOFFice and Firefox for example > together than going swap to 100% > (swap_pager: out of swap space > kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace(5): failed) > and because that I think to increase swap partition. Building each of those ports individually or temporarily disabling the use of tmpfs with `synth configure` would make a whole lot more sense than creating a new or larger swap partition that you'll never use again. Yes, Synth builds will fail if you try and build several large packages at once and run out of temporary space in RAM. The same thing happens with Poudriere. But once you've completely built a repository for the first time you're unlikely to run into that problem again, since the large ports that caused the failure in the first place will probably not be built simultaneously again. -- :: Brandon J. Wandersee :: brandon.wandersee@gmail.com :: -------------------------------------------------- :: 'The best design is as little design as possible.' :: --- Dieter Rams ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 18:04:16 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E30C967C1 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 18:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from nm40-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4560B12CA for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 18:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1483034480; bh=DiqCtuu0WViVuqhGJB7hFE/diN7vExL1w+yVggQ7Tw0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=qWwlyNrOGfCp8/HRyskDYxjYChA0nMTW7eL8iXgkBnMG3DxASALqHTgpB3W88OP6PHNwbqAwF8htrG00tehuReVuk9LacJH9pV5mNf1V9x/LEDBHdAt6DTKOUzcCyyPAX2+G9xZTzZH8zkSBWC2jrZgjwaXwfWQ0P+Ym8n2GoFMAf4mpP2xQnM6M/pO7VeXKOib3HBmg+wlhy/QMDc+i2/awap9w3Xm2fNGFhX0HS+wveW0nQWKg0oTvMNkr3198erYnjIJcKh3YW61sQUhtDXz67/F0VMjrYMnVlCn6XPT5SEUQqgARp4hlPySByvlnWFK0hfCYR5lzUT0LPp/ZHQ== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm40.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2016 18:01:20 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.131] by nm40.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2016 17:58:32 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.172] by tm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2016 17:57:41 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.252] by tm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2016 17:57:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1065.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2016 17:57:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 309642.75952.bm@omp1065.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: is4s2TYVM1nQbF2yb63r04AZ3WaVVTze10.ofOpxg1Y1tBmhKHCEJcN4t2S.auA YRPovQAma1ljo54A0wFtOkeEypUmjLpe8WbdONTHC2YAPdH80tXDRm4yTWYwn.tHEcrgbNFHkdIc LeCKp7IldtxAJDCFLr4Cf_dBGZk1xKBa3rVK7JXNfVf8PrMa2YMPccYNj.B.DQKkCkGn4zmBs4Yu ekZ7Vfnp0fefXdKMaaX667upt7Rp7eqQhJlAdIa7_P8KnyRnxJbjQKOVC1WoshN.5CN1dLwh0stl 2F_BCE45afYj0AW1kNt.EgMC.XuIV7WeoxIaB.HGNJiiHzFUkjs_4krBHBTlzt4v52Z7xG_YpGpK CRTsqC_AroWYoU3lPJFggMWIfbCmBoaeb9px8J8IsubeFk_Q_rhQzTIiXQXK4z2CNysMkubcyn3L ga1RA3sWcp.qUD2E1HMtRrGadPmWZ1WHebarfl2hGGQc58_wAkfy81HMYeCNo_nQvPs0A0hgvoqy kNDSkAs1sjZnuAFQTSdgkniKrhSfSwmiDjKjEa1nhKInCWC2KLZ2bcTK5A6QYJl_1 Received: from jws400008.mail.bf2.yahoo.com by sendmailws108.mail.bf1.yahoo.com; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:57:40 +0000; 1483034260.949 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:57:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Dino Vliet Reply-To: Dino Vliet To: Roger Pate , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <925569242.3715715.1483034259010@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <625604110.3705032.1483032042526.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <625604110.3705032.1483032042526@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: uname -a and freebsd-version show different output on my system MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 18:04:16 -0000 From: Roger Pate To: Dino Vliet ; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 6:43 PM Subject: Re: uname -a and freebsd-version show different output on my syst= em =20 On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Dino Vliet via freebsd-questions wrote: > Dear peeps,I'm running freebsd11 in a virtualbox production machine and s= omething really bothers me a few months already. I have the idea that freeb= sd-update is not installing the new kernel as uname-a shows: > 11.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Mon Oct 24 06:55:27 UTC 2016= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ > However freebsd-version shows:11.0-RELEASE-p6 The kernel is not updated with every patch level, but freebsd-version does show the current version: $ uname -r 10.2-RELEASE-p24 $ freebsd-version -k 10.2-RELEASE-p24 $ freebsd-version 10.2-RELEASE-p28 Was there a kernel update you expected to see between 11.0 p2 and p6? Hmmm I see, I gues not So what you say that it's normal behaviour I'm seeing. Great to know. Thanks for your fast answer as I was worried. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 18:47:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0281AC9648E for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 18:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward3j.cmail.yandex.net (forward3j.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1630::16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1CB31955 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 18:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (smtp1m.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.132]) by forward3j.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 9003820D76; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 21:46:58 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A80CC63C0A74; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 21:46:57 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp1m.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id x46tVHoyM2-ktXCju6g; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 21:46:56 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1483037217; bh=kLZm5LPTaYnnD6C/Q/A/gJOVkI3n8onpBGy6EBrcowA=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=qVwzl6MTxTujQrWSJV5qJ02rn60/ImJGlEtQkGXQj139KgH6Xtq7x2NvE36iXg2XZ yMWSWKZt2UVXCZHdnEe2ghE4tzfjv91ZSS/GqJJcvKW+3ua0cRwjqwe0udM/iAt/nf zVdUaLPImd0eUm8dt22f1D5kwFBVc/R+1B79n7hY= Authentication-Results: smtp1m.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0,1 0 Message-ID: <1483037213.96235.1.camel@yandex.com> Subject: Re: swap partition From: Stari Karp To: "Brandon J.Wandersee" Cc: John Levine , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:46:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: <86y3yyzl6q.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> References: <20161229162919.34694.qmail@ary.lan> <1483032642.96075.3.camel@yandex.com> <86y3yyzl6q.fsf@WorkBox.homestead.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 18:47:02 -0000 On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 11:42 -0600, Brandon J.Wandersee wrote: > Stari Karp writes: > > > > > On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 16:29 +0000, John Levine wrote: > > > > > > In article <1483012420.95172.9.camel@yandex.com> you write: > > > > > > > > > > > > I like to increase swap partition ... > > > Why?Most BSD systems hardly use swap space at all.There's plenty > > > of paging but that's mostly from the files that back the memory. > > > > > > R's, > > > John > > I am using Synth and I have 8 GB memory and swap partition was made > > defaut 3.6 GB and when I built LibreOFFice and Firefox for example > > together than going swap to 100% > > (swap_pager: out of swap space > > kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace(5): failed) > > and because that I think to increase swap partition. > Building each of those ports individually or temporarily disabling > the > use of tmpfs with `synth configure` would make a whole lot more sense > than creating a new or larger swap partition that you'll never use > again. > > Yes, Synth builds will fail if you try and build several large > packages > at once and run out of temporary space in RAM. The same thing happens > with Poudriere. But once you've completely built a repository for the > first time you're unlikely to run into that problem again, since the > large ports that caused the failure in the first place will probably > not > be built simultaneously again. > I agree because I do not have so many problems anymore :). Thank you very much to everyone for the help. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 19:37:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A82EC966D3 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 19:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.org) Received: from mx2.webtent.net (mx2.webtent.net [216.139.202.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E8819CB for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 19:37:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTP id 2628AD7E17 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx2.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65114-04 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.208] (rrcs-74-143-178-62.central.biz.rr.com [74.143.178.62]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: robert@mx2.webtent.net) by mx2.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTPSA id 8441BD7E00 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:31:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=webtent.org; s=201611; t=1483039912; bh=h96dklPHQfpAvQFLCDGuVTt7wTpTtR/Gc1c27E8uzHM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=CmT8KDIJKeuNLzp5XPW+v/6sQhIgj/H6y6TtDlTzl0QrXDXgcOCu0n9vKtjmNMdtY u1qj2xRNHd4MiqLUR0g08eaAN9IGWMckLOl44hy+W5YWlQkn07ak7RboLCLHhOIYpU u9F39z2ZuweVDNrJfSqNZF5foKO66eP+Ukh2RZB/qoF48ssg6/LBwrDIQQXRufDqMR 14iA2n81Yo9JUgQCgFVP/uRrNcWUeupx3eltt/Qa97Xis5n4CcxcimDHIAUgdZFvzq VvBHQbKcDRcpZLLqguMfZcAKUzpG1Oq6YIJ86AktPo6XCMzmYoTXFCRVRKWMzLH2Y8 M7HjwJcTQ0c+Q== Message-ID: <586564A6.4090308@webtent.org> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 14:31:50 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Windows/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Subject: Unknown network interface References: <58656441.6020703@webtent.org> In-Reply-To: <58656441.6020703@webtent.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 19:37:18 -0000 I upgraded an old server from 9.3-RELEASE to 10.3-RELEASE and the network card is not recognized. I went into bsdconfig Network Interfaces and it shows 'unknown network interface type'. However, the card model is D-Link DFE-530TX+ and listed on the supported hardware list. Is there something I can do to get the card working? I also have a Trendnet TEG-PCITXRL gives me the same thing. -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 20:05:13 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D2FC96017 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:05:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 283531AD1 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 21:06:41 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 777A23CC42; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 21:05:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBTK52NH001966; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 21:05:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 21:05:02 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Stari Karp Cc: John Levine , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap partition Message-Id: <20161229210502.c5c2704f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483032642.96075.3.camel@yandex.com> References: <20161229162919.34694.qmail@ary.lan> <1483032642.96075.3.camel@yandex.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with 6E119683482 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2041 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:05:13 -0000 On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 12:30:42 -0500, Stari Karp wrote: > On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 16:29 +0000, John Levine wrote: > > In article <1483012420.95172.9.camel@yandex.com> you write: > > >=20 > > > I like to increase swap partition ... > > Why?=A0=A0Most BSD systems hardly use swap space at all.=A0=A0There's p= lenty > > of paging but that's mostly from the files that back the memory. > >=20 > > R's, > > John >=20 > I am using Synth and I have 8 GB memory and swap partition was made > defaut 3.6 GB and when I built LibreOFFice and Firefox for example > together than going swap to 100%=A0 > (swap_pager: out of swap space > kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace(5): failed) > and because that I think to increase swap partition. That's really "impressive"... I had to open 70+ tabs with "Flash" content running in order to get Opera start using swap - on a PC with 2 GB RAM, plus 2 GB swap partition. I made a terminal capture for this spectacular event: 1 [|||| 7.9%] Tasks: 73, 0 thr; 1 running 2 [| 2.6%] Load average: 0.38 0.70 0.42=20 Mem[|||||||||||||||||||1601/1990MB] Uptime: 00:52:33 Swp[||||| 275/2047MB] Over time, swap did increase a little bit, but hardly any CPU load - mostly I/O load. Mem[|||||||||||||||||||1597/1990MB] Swp[|||||| 404/2047MB] The system kept being basically responsive, but the browser was no fun to interact with until the "Flash" processes were forcedly killed. :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 20:51:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DADEC9637A for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward2h.cmail.yandex.net (forward2h.cmail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:f35::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD2421975 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:51:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (smtp2o.mail.yandex.net [37.140.190.27]) by forward2h.cmail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 21B6220D11; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 23:51:15 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id BD8EA5080933; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 23:51:13 +0300 (MSK) Received: by smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id DkdkyBvU9n-pBpKoJEr; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 23:51:12 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1483044672; bh=MSa6KPRmdujsaV8zJozlxWCPDqvN9XzXM5MfbcsjN84=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=KNXoG6Ndq202LuM4pP420FEFEJgmqgojJ5lmY9w9nV6+C0i1mLUaVD/8Y+xqpUL6n +BpjVHOuH5X8RclvsuBh5/69H5z2tVkHDLStvaDQWv1CUkKW6rSrHznfjSvWvC1SOJ dmhmvRhdhP+5JYbR0ES3vTN6MJBc7BJJY7E3VonY= Authentication-Results: smtp2o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com X-Yandex-Suid-Status: 1 0,1 0,1 0 Message-ID: <1483044670.96510.7.camel@yandex.com> Subject: Re: swap partition From: Stari Karp To: Polytropon Cc: John Levine , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 15:51:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20161229210502.c5c2704f.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20161229162919.34694.qmail@ary.lan> <1483032642.96075.3.camel@yandex.com> <20161229210502.c5c2704f.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:51:27 -0000 On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 21:05 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 12:30:42 -0500, Stari Karp wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 16:29 +0000, John Levine wrote: > > > > > > In article <1483012420.95172.9.camel@yandex.com> you write: > > > > > > > > > > > > I like to increase swap partition ... > > > Why?  Most BSD systems hardly use swap space at all.  There's > > > plenty > > > of paging but that's mostly from the files that back the memory. > > > > > > R's, > > > John > > I am using Synth and I have 8 GB memory and swap partition was made > > defaut 3.6 GB and when I built LibreOFFice and Firefox for example > > together than going swap to 100%  > > (swap_pager: out of swap space > > kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace(5): failed) > > and because that I think to increase swap partition. > That's really "impressive"... > > I had to open 70+ tabs with "Flash" content running in order > to get Opera start using swap - on a PC with 2 GB RAM, plus > 2 GB swap partition. I made a terminal capture for this > spectacular event: > >   1  [||||                      7.9%]     Tasks: 73, 0 thr; 1 running >   2  [|                         2.6%]     Load average: 0.38 0.70 > 0.42  >   Mem[|||||||||||||||||||1601/1990MB]     Uptime: 00:52:33 >   Swp[|||||               275/2047MB] > > Over time, swap did increase a little bit, but hardly any > CPU load - mostly I/O load. > >   Mem[|||||||||||||||||||1597/1990MB] >   Swp[||||||              404/2047MB] > > The system kept being basically responsive, but the browser > was no fun to interact with until the "Flash" processes > were forcedly killed. :-) > I did a test at this time still running when I writing email with Evolution:  I open Firefox and star on youtube watching 16 different movies, than star listening on VLC Gregory Isaac and on Mplayer run W. Wenders Paris-Texas. On GIMP I edit one photo and open was Blender, Stellarium, play between working on GIMP game Rocks'n Diamonds and copy /home and /var on external firewire HD. Swap was not touched, 0% and memory was used 1.9 GB. I monitored with System Monitor on GNOME 3. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 20:54:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBFCC964AD for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "neonpark.inter-sonic.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05DF31C96 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:54:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Intersonic AB DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=intersonic.se; s=INTERSONICSE; t=1483044446; bh=SbafTXHQlOZjtSjJhrue7lutrOgHlnfv/4D9MO/8XJE=; h=To:From:Subject:Date; b=qAbzAUCHMqOm/upeIMSqfmsTvurx/kR85cCC5rmjFVLZTo68UaWcdfBYudQfSCBI9 J9OTnSeKbjQe6B22e+bvIl1uIqTsw9PlJF27bn1M2Vpv6uUhlI06M0TIWUgrUPSESq Sn2d9/iTcLIkNq1TdCuyW2QTdDTUfz30HCd7TSfU= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Per olof Ljungmark Subject: pkg-static: Fail to set time on /compat/linux/proc: Operation not supported Organization: Intersonic AB Message-ID: <16d052af-634c-ed92-78f9-025ab7cecfa3@intersonic.se> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 21:47:24 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:54:08 -0000 Hi all, When updating ports, this occurs on all linux-c6's, what did I do to make that happen? Not seen this before... this is not in a vm or jail. FreeBSD 11.0-STABLE #0 r308346 ===> Installing for linux_base-c6-6.8_6 ===> Checking if linux_base-c6 already installed ===> Registering installation for linux_base-c6-6.8_6 as automatic Installing linux_base-c6-6.8_6... pkg-static: Fail to set time on /compat/linux/proc: Operation not supported *** Error code 70 Stop. linprocfs is mounted: linprocfs on /compat/linux/proc (linprocfs, local) Thanks, //per From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 01:33:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6A8C97A56 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 01:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EB871802 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 01:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43F020861 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:32:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from web4 ([10.202.2.214]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:32:56 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=iEkXh5Fa3WST5puFJgbMnvpiZVo=; b=MVu0ui7pdJU7Ds5ZM7dMn DjqOkLyQ3pzxpXiMxzX7SR/5EXJPUS45Ca2sYOjij7P29nq35zB9PLfnqC8/vNKQ 8sXVcvkQliH3u+VIH5aDluis5akSxrQWpXLerhdXItTB9bOTKDBhKnuTBdY++jjR d9EtzoYhlsbQBtK9Q0xU1E= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=iEkXh5Fa3WST5puFJgbMnvpiZ Vo=; b=lnq0HE2bZQDz3j1kAxpoQK5HqECTqxLRQCpy1PoJhZuUS0jmWOTwhdlI3 Ikg5l5FDmJ7TCmNTns1EyrqTHCThbtmpFhQI+6EjnHlnw/GnTrwcju4HdvxqFeyS sB4Z2ArWPkm6tEhbhS8LhokxBnmYBuHw28JQzXunpqT5v0pe4M= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 731FABAB48; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:32:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483061576.2785798.832651473.09DA861B@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1483061198.2784900.832641945.7F1820A1@webmail.messagingengine.com> Subject: after dd freebsd performed, tryed check /dev/sdb1(notebook can not start with flash) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 02:32:56 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 01:33:03 -0000 Gentlemen after dd freebsd and solaris on new sandisk ultrafit 16gb performed,tryed check /dev/sdb1(notebook can not start with flash) 1. fdisk -l ...dev/sdb1 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) 2.mkdir /home/user/mnt 3.mount -f pcfs /dev/sdb1 /home/user/mnt as in http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19253-01/817-5093/devusbtasks-12/index.html or ubuntu 16.04 not compatible 4.more /dev/sdb1 some great file started with Loading keymap oadertoo large Non-system disk Press any key to reboot folloving text not readable ###### what is false ? must be cleaned for second dd attempt ? or problem is multiboot scenario ? http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/articles/servers-storage-admin/o11-112-s11-first-steps-524819.html Installing on Bare Metal in a Multiboot Scenario In a multiboot scenario, you install Oracle Solaris 11 on the bare metal alongside your existing operating system(s). This scenario is the most complicated and requires some preparation. The Oracle Solaris 11 Live Media includes the GNOME Partition Editor, GParted, which you can use to partition your hard disk. You should create a partition of type *Linux swap*, which the Oracle Solaris installer will recognize. 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Fri, 30 Dec 2016 04:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 306691748 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 04:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:32:02 -0800 From: David Christensen Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> Message-ID: <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:32:02 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 04:32:11 -0000 On 12/27/16 23:01, Bernt Hansson wrote: > You do have dbus_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? Not sure if you need > hald_enable="YES" too. Thanks for the reply. 2016-12-29 19:28:58 toor@t7400 ~ # cat /etc/rc.conf hostname="t7400" ifconfig_bfe0="DHCP" sshd_enable="YES" ntpd_enable="YES" powerd_enable="YES" # Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable dumpdev="AUTO" zfs_enable="YES" 2016-12-29 19:29:04 toor@t7400 ~ # ll /etc/rc.conf.d total 9 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2 2016/09/28 20:41:10 ./ drwxr-xr-x 25 root wheel 113 2016/12/27 19:20:28 ../ Apparently, dbus is not enabled. Add a file: 2016-12-29 19:29:17 toor@t7400 ~ # echo 'dbus_enable="YES"' > /etc/rc.conf.d/dbus.conf shutdown -p, boot, login, Xfce mouse -> Log Out -> Shut Down and -> Restart are still greyed out. On 12/28/16 08:39, Polytropon wrote: > Here is some information: > > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/16916/ > > A more genral approach (for all users) can be followed by > editing /usr/local/etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf like this: > > > > > > > > > This can also be found in the discussion mentioned. Thanks for the reply. Trying the "quick fix": https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/16916/ 2016-12-29 19:33:21 toor@t7400 ~ # polkit-action --set-defaults-any org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.shutdown yes polkit-set-default-helper: needs to be setuid polkit Error: code=8: NotAuthorizedToModifyDefaults: uid 0 is not authorized to modify defaults for implicit authorization for action org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.shutdown (requires org.freedesktop.policykit.modify-defaults) David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 06:35:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158E9C97E34 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 06:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neurospecter@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail1.protonmail.ch (mail1.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.protonmail.ch", Issuer "QuoVadis Global SSL ICA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D01B91635 for ; 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[49.177.162.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k22sm51888596pfg.84.2016.12.29.22.40.37 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Dec 2016 22:40:38 -0800 (PST) From: Felix Friedlander Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_76C3D6DE-0C91-4BF6-B788-141315BE0A84"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Re: Signatures Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:40:32 +1100 In-Reply-To: Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" To: Specter References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 06:40:39 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_76C3D6DE-0C91-4BF6-B788-141315BE0A84 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 30 Dec 2016, at 5:27 pm, Specter via freebsd-questions = wrote: >=20 > Hello, I was wondering where you've posted your public signing keys? I = have not been able to find them anywhere. And where can I find the = signature files for your ISO's? >=20 > Thanks, > Spectral To the best of my knowledge, FreeBSD ISO images are not signed. You can = verify their integrity (to a degree) using the checksums (example: = http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/11.0/CH= ECKSUM.SHA256-FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-amd64 ). The only =E2=80=9Cofficial=E2=80=9D PGP key for the project (as far as = I=E2=80=99m aware) belongs to the security officer, and is used for = signing security advisories. You can find the key at = https://www.freebsd.org/security/so_public_key.asc and the advisories at = https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories.html. 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[49.177.162.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u78sm109436582pfa.53.2016.12.29.22.56.19 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Dec 2016 22:56:21 -0800 (PST) From: Felix Friedlander Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_864C4B29-4302-4909-9A9D-1D046A79370E"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: Fwd: Signatures Message-Id: <6EF4ACC2-DD83-4970-9346-12600DFF2362@gmail.com> References: <995C6DE9-DAAF-47DD-BFF4-9FAC1A917BAA@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:56:15 +1100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 06:56:22 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_864C4B29-4302-4909-9A9D-1D046A79370E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Re-including the list. > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > From: Felix Friedlander > Subject: Re: Signatures > Date: 30 December 2016 at 5:55:06 pm AEDT > To: Specter >=20 >=20 >> On 30 Dec 2016, at 5:46 pm, Specter = wrote: >>=20 >> Felix, >>=20 >> Thank you for your response all though that comes as quite a = surprise. I've had the impression that BSD is for the security conscious = yet you do not sign your ISO's. I'm a Linux user at the moment and just = about every Linux developer out there signs their ISO's. I just can't = imagine that's the case.=20 >>=20 >> Are you absolutely sure? I have actually found that key before but as = you said, that is not a signing key for the ISO's which is what I need. = I refuse to use anything that has not been properly signed. I am very = security conscious. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Spectral >>=20 >>=20 >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: Signatures >>> Local Time: 29 December 2016 10:40 PM >>> UTC Time: 30 December 2016 06:40 >>> From: felixphew0@gmail.com >>> To: Specter >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>=20 >>>> On 30 Dec 2016, at 5:27 pm, Specter via freebsd-questions = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Hello, I was wondering where you've posted your public signing = keys? I have not been able to find them anywhere. And where can I find = the signature files for your ISO's? >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks, >>>> Spectral >>>=20 >>> To the best of my knowledge, FreeBSD ISO images are not signed. You = can verify their integrity (to a degree) using the checksums (example: = http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/11.0/CH= ECKSUM.SHA256-FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-amd64 ). >>>=20 >>> The only =E2=80=9Cofficial=E2=80=9D PGP key for the project (as far = as I=E2=80=99m aware) belongs to the security officer, and is used for = signing security advisories. You can find the key at = https://www.freebsd.org/security/so_public_key.asc and the advisories at = https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories.html. >>>=20 >>> Feel free to correct me, anyone, if this is out-of-date or = incorrect. >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Felix Friedlander >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > As I suspected my information was quite out-of-date. >=20 > Signed checksums for each release can be found on the website, near = the release announcements, notes, and errata. For example: = https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.0R/signatures.html contains all the = relevant signatures for FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE. >=20 > I=E2=80=99m not entirely sure which key these are signed with, but it = should be one of the keys found at = https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/pgpkeys/ (downloadable as one = file at https://www.freebsd.org/doc/pgpkeyring.txt if you need to = automate this or something). >=20 > --=20 > Felix Friedlander >=20 --=20 Felix Friedlander --Apple-Mail=_864C4B29-4302-4909-9A9D-1D046A79370E Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKXzCCBHUw ggNdoAMCAQICEE2xfWfYnPapZH3gLyfQszMwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwdTELMAkGA1UEBhMCSUwx FjAUBgNVBAoTDVN0YXJ0Q29tIEx0ZC4xKTAnBgNVBAsTIFN0YXJ0Q29tIENlcnRpZmljYXRpb24g QXV0aG9yaXR5MSMwIQYDVQQDExpTdGFydENvbSBDbGFzcyAxIENsaWVudCBDQTAeFw0xNjEyMDQw 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mx0.gentlemail.de [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a130]); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:38:03 +0100 (CET) X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: mx0.gentlemail.de; Sender-ip: ; Sender-helo: mh0.gentlemail.de; ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:38:07 -0000 Sender address verification doesn't work for all FreeBSD mailinglists I'm subscribed to. First noticed yesterday, 2016/12/29 05:14:00 PST (13:14:00 UTC). Will that stay? Hopefully not!!! Thanks, -harry From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 11:39:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC5BC96A15 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B8451FC8 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id uBUBctPc022315; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:38:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? To: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:38:55 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:39:02 -0000 On 2016-12-30 05:32, David Christensen wrote: > On 12/27/16 23:01, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> You do have dbus_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? Not sure if you need >> hald_enable="YES" too. > > Thanks for the reply. > > > 2016-12-29 19:28:58 toor@t7400 ~ > # cat /etc/rc.conf > hostname="t7400" > ifconfig_bfe0="DHCP" > sshd_enable="YES" > ntpd_enable="YES" > powerd_enable="YES" > # Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable > dumpdev="AUTO" > zfs_enable="YES" > > 2016-12-29 19:29:04 toor@t7400 ~ > # ll /etc/rc.conf.d > total 9 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2 2016/09/28 20:41:10 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 25 root wheel 113 2016/12/27 19:20:28 ../ > > > Apparently, dbus is not enabled. Add a file: > > 2016-12-29 19:29:17 toor@t7400 ~ > # echo 'dbus_enable="YES"' > /etc/rc.conf.d/dbus.conf > > > shutdown -p, boot, login, Xfce mouse -> Log Out -> Shut Down and -> > Restart are still greyed out. Dbus is installed? Think it comes with xfce but not sure. If it does not work you have to work some magic with devd i think. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 14:43:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5976C97BFE for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:43:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay15.qsc.de (mailrelay15.qsc.de [212.99.187.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5866414E4 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay15.qsc.de; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:44:36 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 458AB3CC3F; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:43:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBUEhSiR002008; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:43:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:43:28 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: after dd freebsd performed, tryed check /dev/sdb1(notebook can not start with flash) Message-Id: <20161230154328.a48f5281.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483061576.2785798.832651473.09DA861B@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483061576.2785798.832651473.09DA861B@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with A4D0669D63E X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2298 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:43:39 -0000 On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 02:32:56 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > after dd freebsd and solaris on new sandisk ultrafit 16gb > performed,tryed check /dev/sdb1(notebook can not start with flash) How "and"? How did you manage to put two (!) images on one and the same boot media? This looks wrong. If you prepare a FreeBSD boot USB stick with the memstick image, using dd, this stick will boot FreeBSD (_from_ the stick), nothing else. > 1. fdisk -l ...dev/sdb1 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) That looks wrong as well. A FreeBSD memstich, if created properly, does not look like a FAT32 file system. > 2.mkdir /home/user/mnt > > 3.mount -f pcfs /dev/sdb1 /home/user/mnt That shouldn't even be possible with a properly written FreeBSD image. From "man mount_pcfs" (Solaris): mount attaches an MS-DOS file system (pcfs) to the file system hierarchy at the mount_point, which is the pathname of a directory. If mount_point has any contents prior to the mount operation, these are hidden until the file system is unmounted. I'm not sure what you did (successfully?) mount, but it doesn't really look like anything FreeBSD-related... > or ubuntu 16.04 not compatible I cannot imagine that it should be impossible to create a FreeBSD USB stick from Ubuntu. You don't need more than dd and the memstick image. CHeck your process again, compare to the online documentation. > 4.more /dev/sdb1 > > some great file started with > > Loading keymap > > oadertoo large > > Non-system disk > > Press any key to reboot > > folloving text not readable It is _not_ a text file, so you cannot display it with the "more" pager. You're literally reading the stick, and at its beginning, there is binary (!) boot code, which you cannot actually read. :-) Instead, after mounting, you should have issued the command # ls /home/user/mnt so you can check what's on the media - on a file system level, not on "bare bits & bytes". ;-) > what is false ? must be cleaned for second dd attempt ? In best case, remaining data is overwritten by dd, so there is no need to remove anything prior to a new attempt. > or problem is multiboot scenario ? It shouldn't be. Booting from USB should have priority over whatever is stored on the computer's hard disk. Again, make sure that your PC's BIOS/UEFI has booting from USB enabled. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 14:48:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1DEC97DB8 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:48:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay12.qsc.de (mailrelay12.qsc.de [212.99.163.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4194017A8 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay12.qsc.de; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:51:23 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-28-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.28.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C41003CC56; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:48:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBUEmfP0002026; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:48:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:48:41 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Bernt Hansson Cc: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? Message-Id: <20161230154841.7d2561e2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with 7A2096A5469 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2029 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:48:55 -0000 On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:38:55 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > On 2016-12-30 05:32, David Christensen wrote: > > On 12/27/16 23:01, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> You do have dbus_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf? Not sure if you need > >> hald_enable="YES" too. > > > > Thanks for the reply. > > > > > > 2016-12-29 19:28:58 toor@t7400 ~ > > # cat /etc/rc.conf > > hostname="t7400" > > ifconfig_bfe0="DHCP" > > sshd_enable="YES" > > ntpd_enable="YES" > > powerd_enable="YES" > > # Set dumpdev to "AUTO" to enable crash dumps, "NO" to disable > > dumpdev="AUTO" > > zfs_enable="YES" > > > > 2016-12-29 19:29:04 toor@t7400 ~ > > # ll /etc/rc.conf.d > > total 9 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2 2016/09/28 20:41:10 ./ > > drwxr-xr-x 25 root wheel 113 2016/12/27 19:20:28 ../ > > > > > > Apparently, dbus is not enabled. Add a file: > > > > 2016-12-29 19:29:17 toor@t7400 ~ > > # echo 'dbus_enable="YES"' > /etc/rc.conf.d/dbus.conf > > > > > > shutdown -p, boot, login, Xfce mouse -> Log Out -> Shut Down and -> > > Restart are still greyed out. > Dbus is installed? Think it comes with xfce but not sure. > > If it does not work you have to work some magic with devd i think. Or with system provided commands: add yourself to the required groups (wheel, operator), then add a menu entry for "System Shutdown" (shutdown -p now) and "System Reboot" (shutdown -r now); now you can select them from the menu, add a key combination, or even make a desktop shortcut which you can give an inviting name, like "My files". :-) You can also add it as an icon to one of the bars, like for example in Gnome. You need DBus, PolicyKit and ConsoleKit installed, if I remember correctly, and _maybe_ even HAL (but check that again with the current documentation). Those services must be running. Check if "startxfce4" requires some of the "--with-ck-something" options. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 15:53:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D57EC970A1 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:53:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.org) Received: from mx2.webtent.net (mx2.webtent.net [216.139.202.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D961722 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTP id 5E9B5D7E00; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:53:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx2.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11893-05; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.208] (rrcs-74-143-178-62.central.biz.rr.com [74.143.178.62]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: robert@mx2.webtent.net) by mx2.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTPSA id 91C7ED7E08; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:53:42 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=webtent.org; s=201611; t=1483113222; bh=VT/OjLC0wxZJr8Y4tyYGrmerRoP3kIFcl77SrwEXUIE=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=oHR5svJYaEGxdnRtGe6Bt7XZNvQyiRNHXx7j89krnpOnQWjWx9nHojNUTEkzNhhGk 7E5ahDKBISCj0WyghVel7fj0/qER16GP+oUQK2wqCbYNnForPmCtboO0XtFBwUElmQ qrtldmzJoZ9ouQrU9KAUkFxr3CLvbld5sKSr4oz5GtsaRLDmxG39HJLAkMXfny3Lhz 4MD5UNlRhotd70liTgD6nXnSiyM+d8g/2nGrQXyGccjZgz7vRPBb8gl2rrh3q/ezpN rK0ILudAMUrbvpdPB3qQZuUV9yxn0w90aP2AahiFH0vARTbnBrHxHsypfsihXl+GC+ DOLFuomZrwhcw== Message-ID: <58668302.30709@webtent.org> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:53:38 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Windows/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Hardie CC: Robert Fitzpatrick via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Unknown network interface References: <58656441.6020703@webtent.org> <586564A6.4090308@webtent.org> <26C0E260-E8E9-4763-9FEE-AEC974BAB8E6@lafn.org> In-Reply-To: <26C0E260-E8E9-4763-9FEE-AEC974BAB8E6@lafn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:53:50 -0000 Doug Hardie wrote: > I encountered the same problem and found no solution other than to go directly to 11.0. Then my NIC worked again. You might try that using a memstick image first. I tried a number of them before finding the solution. > > >> On 29 December 2016, at 11:31, Robert Fitzpatrick via freebsd-questions wrote: >> >> I upgraded an old server from 9.3-RELEASE to 10.3-RELEASE and the network card is not recognized. I went into bsdconfig Network Interfaces and it shows 'unknown network interface type'. However, the card model is D-Link DFE-530TX+ and listed on the supported hardware list. Is there something I can do to get the card working? I also have a Trendnet TEG-PCITXRL gives me the same thing. >> >> -- Robert >> Thanks Doug. I've never upgraded using a memstick or iso, always used freebsd-update. Can anyone suggest or point me to some instruction for upgrading when I boot from an 11.0 iso cd rom? -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 16:34:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C023C960BE for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amijaresp@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6B51657 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amijaresp@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1BCA0C960BD; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6B5C960BC for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amijaresp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22b.google.com (mail-ua0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCA011656 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amijaresp@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id i68so152308222uad.0 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 08:34:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Vzpfm5nA0MZn7iUuUhqzvwYZQZUh9mP2S4t+V7WYPNE=; b=RBuaxGDVYzb7DBVaDhS1R7jWUajtniXDimuOvrtl/gJgMYJle5KcbTqX5S2IjA2EmE lOZkItENWZX9pIMpbYKg33Bd9XeT+jCo+KYq1efl/Rpzy7YhqJEQz90w1cu6XLHHJrZ4 5VGDQNbHUa0JXEDXOcQoXqkneXoeSXQAUbBtdcvfP0F37DbleZOHin+QTWTBvINlJVd0 xvnsCnJLM2DYBZEw6PkPw1nbFmi3dfv3JhxTyUPgOZDEAQNaxUW+Ao98GxrM2pEFEhBy 8z0qh+nKd7KV1pSEiGCrdRhmMzkSdSXstzmffaWYjfLV9NdSzKifXJxLZWUyWX8z+bT1 FlKA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Vzpfm5nA0MZn7iUuUhqzvwYZQZUh9mP2S4t+V7WYPNE=; b=bjiyM2DnkRWFsR7p/vKG04qwwQ8QUhD+8mGGvib3ahCb8WzP80vPjkz03n+DZT+YT+ baQWLC58DeT9o/uu5dq33/gpeeQqn6hhBnqLotiIRNgu6w4CsCuER6/Obe4mxIte+/E9 sbJXvpelR2ZbgVw4gsstUioyjKuCHuDQZauuaCvOi4hthxqyCGwql70dTGvJItKHpCOp 8veAcPXO3I3DpEdErkMeJh9Bc7mRVSkHEA5vTEfplAdIvIoMshtl2blXliMBLN4N0zUF fdgBdwfzgN7voKBXhfdYOG1JU+EqUnmTwAhGRXPh5tzIt6afjCDtf1xgiluZKguoRmvj bEgw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKFoq2+s0WHQkjU5yQc6D1CLxf6ksE9dRHeDzsQbi34llMXTc5SDGmDLwKBXTKaOur+LUg7H1wMBA+tqA== X-Received: by 10.176.66.227 with SMTP id j90mr37183313uaj.105.1483115661789; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 08:34:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.168.14 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 08:34:21 -0800 (PST) From: Alberto Mijares Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:04:21 -0430 Message-ID: Subject: Update TZ data To: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:34:23 -0000 Dear all, I'd like to know how to patch and submit the TZ database in base. America/Caracas is -4:00 since May 01 2016. Thank you. Alberto Mijares From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 16:44:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2028C96495 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:44:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89A801B9B for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9FE20AE3 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:44:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=Uv/AaI4SDonqshZjMTzG7tKLLx4=; b=rNIvEzD6DV023/elBUULd uRpDdUwnW4jdgAHe4Im7yVcusvfDmfhXbIGGRaPnAy8i+ujK6dd/XVs6d9CUiXIf 02LkWRkeu54ARdGVucXxH5Ou8bKrdXfX2Hj6BcsichpyVuF7e1+EQpuwEZi38vGH XrUdPXrq1//xc9z6d/jwTc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=Uv/AaI4SDonqshZjMTzG7tKLL x4=; b=kNMFMU/MSIQ1ZEWRFOUSuxiqTaZiZCPKIpgdgZ5Zew06+Qufaur8EhUFl 4+djYRwGXyZ8muKqBdeUS2SJ3zcYUOfoVOlL07bN4PMwwnJEBRMwc5r88707MoPh HfSuOWcmJ6aHcgklMwmsv6CLggux68VOvj4oCjLjdDiSeSQSIU= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 4876B6ABED; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:44:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483116280.3177184.833095993.39D8640D@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf Subject: Fwd: Re: after dd freebsd performed, tryed check /dev/sdb1(notebook can not start with flash) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:44:40 +0100 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20161230154328.a48f5281.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:44:45 -0000 Dear Sir performed 1. cd / 2. mkdir /mnt 3. cd /mnt 4. mount -f pcfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt 5.ls -lsar /mnt ... root . root .. nothing 6. more /dev/sdb1 -Yes as before 7. cd / 8. ls -lsar /mnt -as in p 5 ################## About your point of view -hardware cheking Student s-admin after installation failed ,stated (forced author work with sudo su startx - not managed blocked windov) It is radeon 3450 , would not work with 64 u-16.04.1,you must go to L-mint ) Author started - tty1 sudo su xinit - tty2 , unity - It is work ########### Thank You for assitance ,would pay attetion to your suggest (will read more) -- swjatoslaw ger milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: after dd freebsd performed, tryed check /dev/sdb1(notebook can not start with flash) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:43:28 +0100 On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 02:32:56 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > after dd freebsd and solaris on new sandisk ultrafit 16gb > performed,tryed check /dev/sdb1(notebook can not start with flash) How "and"? How did you manage to put two (!) images on one and the same boot media? This looks wrong. If you prepare a FreeBSD boot USB stick with the memstick image, using dd, this stick will boot FreeBSD (_from_ the stick), nothing else. > 1. fdisk -l ...dev/sdb1 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) That looks wrong as well. A FreeBSD memstich, if created properly, does not look like a FAT32 file system. > 2.mkdir /home/user/mnt > > 3.mount -f pcfs /dev/sdb1 /home/user/mnt That shouldn't even be possible with a properly written FreeBSD image. From "man mount_pcfs" (Solaris): mount attaches an MS-DOS file system (pcfs) to the file system hierarchy at the mount_point, which is the pathname of a directory. If mount_point has any contents prior to the mount operation, these are hidden until the file system is unmounted. I'm not sure what you did (successfully?) mount, but it doesn't really look like anything FreeBSD-related... > or ubuntu 16.04 not compatible I cannot imagine that it should be impossible to create a FreeBSD USB stick from Ubuntu. You don't need more than dd and the memstick image. CHeck your process again, compare to the online documentation. > 4.more /dev/sdb1 > > some great file started with > > Loading keymap > > oadertoo large > > Non-system disk > > Press any key to reboot > > folloving text not readable It is _not_ a text file, so you cannot display it with the "more" pager. You're literally reading the stick, and at its beginning, there is binary (!) boot code, which you cannot actually read. :-) Instead, after mounting, you should have issued the command # ls /home/user/mnt so you can check what's on the media - on a file system level, not on "bare bits & bytes". ;-) > what is false ? must be cleaned for second dd attempt ? In best case, remaining data is overwritten by dd, so there is no need to remove anything prior to a new attempt. > or problem is multiboot scenario ? It shouldn't be. Booting from USB should have priority over whatever is stored on the computer's hard disk. Again, make sure that your PC's BIOS/UEFI has booting from USB enabled. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- http://www.fastmail.com - The professional email service From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 16:55:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47138C969AF for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:55:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E7D7131C for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC58120A85 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:54:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=rc6px8U2Gp2KzNd/upf9z3rYZlA=; b=SxcckjVmBGPTJHdFsjHNM xPDCHSdvSsLQRJKrsyK8VMMmr3G01AjZNlgBtDxZ+bPudKnidIg66V+A/JQL/HbQ Ec3qKYjnix9Qe7NuRiiIiGBsp4U+zp7JEUsHiuceGQUWw47NHP/5dm2QpPnf5hNB Xu3auO3v2luxo9pT2gTaEs= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=rc6px8U2Gp2KzNd/upf9z3rYZ lA=; b=AIUWor4KxJ6yyPeealHj1WI0ewjSWWd0SmRLXwS7rpxuqs3V5RHhOxczk 9UeXMZnmOJFnaao381fUOi/xzs1Lw59upPHbxrxPJ8oq6ZyKqw+L3DfsZSgwVpUB BymkebaB4DeiOh0ydXOnk8EBmuUFuHBw6jlgymeZOmtggCiaYQ= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 8D75A6ABED; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:54:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483116899.3179856.833123401.074FE20F@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1483116280.3177184.833095993.39D8640D@webmail.messagingengine.com> Subject: Please do not forget ! - root kill -9 tor automat. restart after dd freebsd performed, tryed check /dev/sdb1(notebook can not start with flash) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:54:59 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:55:01 -0000 Please do not forget ! - root kill -9 tor automat. restart root top | grep tor 1430 root kill -9 1430 killed started tor 4335 debian-+ & Another Surprise expected ... -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Fwd: Re: after dd freebsd performed, tryed check /dev/sdb1(notebook can not start with flash) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:44:40 +0100 Dear Sir performed 1. cd / 2. mkdir /mnt 3. cd /mnt 4. mount -f pcfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt 5.ls -lsar /mnt ... root . root .. nothing 6. more /dev/sdb1 -Yes as before 7. cd / 8. ls -lsar /mnt -as in p 5 ################## About your point of view -hardware cheking Student s-admin after installation failed ,stated (forced author work with sudo su startx - not managed blocked windov) It is radeon 3450 , would not work with 64 u-16.04.1,you must go to L-mint ) Author started - tty1 sudo su xinit - tty2 , unity - It is work ########### Thank You for assitance ,would pay attetion to your suggest (will read more) -- swjatoslaw ger milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: after dd freebsd performed, tryed check /dev/sdb1(notebook can not start with flash) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:43:28 +0100 On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 02:32:56 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > after dd freebsd and solaris on new sandisk ultrafit 16gb > performed,tryed check /dev/sdb1(notebook can not start with flash) How "and"? How did you manage to put two (!) images on one and the same boot media? This looks wrong. If you prepare a FreeBSD boot USB stick with the memstick image, using dd, this stick will boot FreeBSD (_from_ the stick), nothing else. > 1. fdisk -l ...dev/sdb1 c W95 FAT32 (LBA) That looks wrong as well. A FreeBSD memstich, if created properly, does not look like a FAT32 file system. > 2.mkdir /home/user/mnt > > 3.mount -f pcfs /dev/sdb1 /home/user/mnt That shouldn't even be possible with a properly written FreeBSD image. From "man mount_pcfs" (Solaris): mount attaches an MS-DOS file system (pcfs) to the file system hierarchy at the mount_point, which is the pathname of a directory. If mount_point has any contents prior to the mount operation, these are hidden until the file system is unmounted. I'm not sure what you did (successfully?) mount, but it doesn't really look like anything FreeBSD-related... > or ubuntu 16.04 not compatible I cannot imagine that it should be impossible to create a FreeBSD USB stick from Ubuntu. You don't need more than dd and the memstick image. CHeck your process again, compare to the online documentation. > 4.more /dev/sdb1 > > some great file started with > > Loading keymap > > oadertoo large > > Non-system disk > > Press any key to reboot > > folloving text not readable It is _not_ a text file, so you cannot display it with the "more" pager. You're literally reading the stick, and at its beginning, there is binary (!) boot code, which you cannot actually read. :-) Instead, after mounting, you should have issued the command # ls /home/user/mnt so you can check what's on the media - on a file system level, not on "bare bits & bytes". ;-) > what is false ? must be cleaned for second dd attempt ? In best case, remaining data is overwritten by dd, so there is no need to remove anything prior to a new attempt. > or problem is multiboot scenario ? It shouldn't be. Booting from USB should have priority over whatever is stored on the computer's hard disk. Again, make sure that your PC's BIOS/UEFI has booting from USB enabled. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- http://www.fastmail.com - The professional email service -- http://www.fastmail.com - The way an email service should be From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 16:58:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251C0C96AE1 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC3501558 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from liminal.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:1c1d:86a1:a200:b700]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BBC43953D for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/BBC43953D; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: Update TZ data To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:57:55 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QPq1H0L4tpxQtREIhn1vpgQiHRBQv4VNp" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:58:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --QPq1H0L4tpxQtREIhn1vpgQiHRBQv4VNp Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="hFkUq46CTVnuddCJfjvOFsESAeGWP8hwj"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Update TZ data References: In-Reply-To: --hFkUq46CTVnuddCJfjvOFsESAeGWP8hwj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30/12/2016 16:34, Alberto Mijares wrote: > I'd like to know how to patch and submit the TZ database in base. > America/Caracas is -4:00 since May 01 2016. Is that not covered by the recent Errata Notice updating the timezone dat= a? https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-16:20.tzdata.asc Looks like there's a 4 hour difference from UTC to me: ``` % env TZ=3DAmerica/Caracas date Fri Dec 30 12:56:20 VET 2016 % env TZ=3DUTC date Fri Dec 30 16:56:37 UTC 2016 ``` If you're using a release version, using freebsd-update(8) to get the latest patchlevel should suffice. Otherwise, if you're building base from source, simply update to a version more recent than about 6th December. 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Skuhra" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Update TZ data In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:06:43 -0000 Alberto Mijares skrev: > > Dear all, > I'd like to know how to patch and submit the TZ database in base. > America/Caracas is -4:00 since May 01 2016. > > Thank you. Like: So upgrade your system? -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 17:19:38 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF7BC97324 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amijaresp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22c.google.com (mail-ua0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BCA51439; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amijaresp@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id v2so82317202uac.2; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:19:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=TtxpuUQdwb0FR8BB516/BdTvuSI9UOZoPqWn1ydfzJU=; b=ilXnU/NhUMXArTVfGGzx8SgsN/xwMqdPgDIXMAj5lcUzSrHcEqXPwukQIulMgmEH5k jDp1TQD+pgWLto6NCRKnhA9Dr7drZxT+xGoqFBO2UoGDATXiPZanER/nC1W6ZHF6Mtqz qdl8XWSqUoMBejao57dUl+HWDgFRPSUgrXVeSN2sL1UeRBFG+CGaYdHDELYpjx1K0/u9 a3b1V9iINTWtemRw+3EmqXszzUqY3wHsKA5tErBZx3mhnn7zZdGk3sWtUevArDTOK9FA YSrLMHiNYYk/xidOEkv5ebwSpsXr4Tnlz5SbzvCR9KwSDPeK8wT1OYJSMZduVwzomlCd yHSQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=TtxpuUQdwb0FR8BB516/BdTvuSI9UOZoPqWn1ydfzJU=; b=UG2/zV0u7yz0+NrwYzITrXOWGWuuqN3dCHMgVn1e3CkafHQMo1PDWwsV9vj2/1yCTD mNuGO03h+IC6GiX6JvnrS5evifLnSiRaDRmn0AnMeYBW2AwUVyB0pCjX4HCuAXVyG3Yx s0HzrsnkCpVjTy+FnnlJN+OMjTT06Qn3wJUNpMkaWWgbSad4sTSPl0ig+Fc23tkk+9CL SQaxmgSFS60f7cXltiIYkjFJd+lm43n04WmRoV0qDSG8WkNQBujiN1bzx/gE5hi+7fYt zurUhQ3Uo1E0cB69C8hM0JafIHnQl0sd2Wck4L5bwl7cuBZ+omhl2ji9YeAjojHQfnWR QTdQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLcwwZoGtvZYnNl02P5iQ761uf0tAz2rDsuHYEV4wCw9rAj4bI5IO25y20xCqJo+aEoqe7ID6e2lmALZw== X-Received: by 10.176.65.4 with SMTP id j4mr30258833uad.93.1483118377300; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:19:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.168.14 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:19:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Alberto Mijares Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:49:36 -0430 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Update TZ data To: Matthew Seaman Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:19:38 -0000 Thank you Matthew. I wasn't aware, it's a very recent update. Best regards, Alberto Mijares On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 30/12/2016 16:34, Alberto Mijares wrote: >> I'd like to know how to patch and submit the TZ database in base. >> America/Caracas is -4:00 since May 01 2016. > > Is that not covered by the recent Errata Notice updating the timezone data? > > https://www.freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-16:20.tzdata.asc > > Looks like there's a 4 hour difference from UTC to me: > > ``` > % env TZ=America/Caracas date > Fri Dec 30 12:56:20 VET 2016 > % env TZ=UTC date > Fri Dec 30 16:56:37 UTC 2016 > ``` > > If you're using a release version, using freebsd-update(8) to get the > latest patchlevel should suffice. > > Otherwise, if you're building base from source, simply update to a > version more recent than about 6th December. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 19:11:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA3FC97EF1 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmciver@lmtribune.com) Received: from spamfw3.salnet.net (mail.lmtribune.com [199.5.221.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA191B7F for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmciver@lmtribune.com) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1483125075-0850642a4cd23d40001-jLrpzn Received: from ltmail.lmtribune.com (ltmail.lmtribune.com [192.168.135.45]) by spamfw3.salnet.net with ESMTP id vMnCDfTO8N1ijMKH for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:11:15 -0800 (PST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: jmciver@lmtribune.com X-ASG-Whitelist: Sender Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ltmail.lmtribune.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267F823007A for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ltmail.lmtribune.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ltmail.lmtribune.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id FMijWCWpJjBt for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:11:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ltmail.lmtribune.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF7023025A for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:11:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lmtribune.com Received: from ltmail.lmtribune.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ltmail.lmtribune.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id FPexEymkptHY for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:11:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ltmail.lmtribune.com (ltmail.lmtribune.com [192.168.135.45]) by ltmail.lmtribune.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFC723007A for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:11:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:11:13 -0800 (PST) From: Jim McIver Reply-To: Jim McIver To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1916139826.11461.1483125073411.JavaMail.zimbra@lmtribune.com> Subject: freebsd 10 syslog server MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: freebsd 10 syslog server X-Originating-IP: [192.168.100.90] X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.6.0_GA_1200 (ZimbraWebClient - GC55 (Win)/8.6.0_GA_1200) Thread-Topic: freebsd 10 syslog server Thread-Index: tqRmjsp6/CQ6EOFZtEoZgyxPpvtBYQ== X-Barracuda-Connect: ltmail.lmtribune.com[192.168.135.45] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1483125075 X-Barracuda-URL: https://192.168.135.20:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 2199 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at salnet.net X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:11:17 -0000 Syslog messages going to /var/log/messages rather than /var/log/apac.log Followed documentation from: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/configtuning-syslog.html I found where this is happening to someone else, but no answer. https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-November/235565.html I even did debug option and it showed message logging to /var/log/messages. Yes the /var/log/apac.log file exists. As the message in /var/log/messages says " apac jim: test message" I wonder if the line in the top of the /etc/syslog.conf that says "*.notice;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err /var/log/messages" is why they go to /var/log/messages? It mentions "notice" going to /var/log/messages and that's what shows in /var/log/messages. thought? -jm From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 19:42:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB334C971A9 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:42:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay15.qsc.de (mailrelay15.qsc.de [212.99.187.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3237B14D9 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:42:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay15.qsc.de; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:43:11 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F08D3CC3F; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:42:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBUJg2S7002268; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:42:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:39:52 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: after dd freebsd performed, tryed check /dev/sdb1(notebook can not start with flash) Message-Id: <20161230203952.840946f4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483116280.3177184.833095993.39D8640D@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483116280.3177184.833095993.39D8640D@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with A98D569D63E X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2257 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:42:09 -0000 On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:44:40 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Dear Sir > > performed > > 1. cd / > 2. mkdir /mnt > 3. cd /mnt > 4. mount -f pcfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt > 5.ls -lsar /mnt ... root . root .. nothing So it is an empty file system. As I sait, a FAT32 file system looks wrong for a FreeBSD boot medium anyway. > 6. more /dev/sdb1 -Yes as before Probably remains of a boot loader. > 7. cd / > 8. ls -lsar /mnt -as in p 5 To be expected. :-) > About your point of view -hardware cheking > > Student s-admin after installation failed ,stated > (forced author work with sudo su startx - not managed > blocked windov) > It is radeon 3450 , would not work with 64 u-16.04.1,you must go to > L-mint ) Yes, there are Linux distributions which do not support specific graphic cards / chips out of the box. In most cases, it's possible for a skilled admin to simply install the required drivers. Alternatively, a different distribution might already include that driver. Maybe you're better off using Linux Mint? It's quite popular and well maintained. However, withouth checking, I do not know which desktop environment it comes with. > Author started - tty1 sudo su xinit - tty2 , unity - > It is work But it is nonsense. You're doing something you are not supposed to do (like climbing through your window to enter your house instead of using the door - it _does_ work, but using the proper key is probably easier). :-) On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:54:59 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Please do not forget ! - root kill -9 tor automat. restart > > root > top | grep tor > 1430 > root > kill -9 1430 killed > started tor 4335 debian-+ > & > Another Surprise expected ... That is a distribution-specific Linux problem which you shoule ask about in a forum or mailing list that deals with that Linux distribution. All I can say (without further diagnostics) it looks like some "automatic restart magic", maybe related to systemd... but actually, I have no idea. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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As I sait, a FAT32 file system looks wrong for a FreeBSD boot medium anyway. > 6. more /dev/sdb1 -Yes as before Probably remains of a boot loader. > 7. cd / > 8. ls -lsar /mnt -as in p 5 To be expected. :-) > About your point of view -hardware cheking > > Student s-admin after installation failed ,stated > (forced author work with sudo su startx - not managed > blocked windov) > It is radeon 3450 , would not work with 64 u-16.04.1,you must go to > L-mint ) Yes, there are Linux distributions which do not support specific graphic cards / chips out of the box. In most cases, it's possible for a skilled admin to simply install the required drivers. Alternatively, a different distribution might already include that driver. Maybe you're better off using Linux Mint? It's quite popular and well maintained. However, withouth checking, I do not know which desktop environment it comes with. > Author started - tty1 sudo su xinit - tty2 , unity - > It is work But it is nonsense. You're doing something you are not supposed to do (like climbing through your window to enter your house instead of using the door - it _does_ work, but using the proper key is probably easier). :-) On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:54:59 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > Please do not forget ! - root kill -9 tor automat. restart > > root > top | grep tor > 1430 > root > kill -9 1430 killed > started tor 4335 debian-+ > & > Another Surprise expected ... That is a distribution-specific Linux problem which you shoule ask about in a forum or mailing list that deals with that Linux distribution. All I can say (without further diagnostics) it looks like some "automatic restart magic", maybe related to systemd... but actually, I have no idea. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 20:38:51 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CD5C985F9 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2ED0F15B4 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:38:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id uBUKciEC051460 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 13:38:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id uBUKchUb051446; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 13:38:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 13:38:43 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Heikki Lindholm cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: system -invalid argument 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync In-Reply-To: <58626529.6000308@saunalahti.fi> Message-ID: References: <1482839506.750175.830376089.44208950@webmail.messagingengine.com> <58626529.6000308@saunalahti.fi> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 13:38:44 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:38:51 -0000 On Tue, 27 Dec 2016, Heikki Lindholm wrote: > Needs to be > > dd ... bs=1000000 > > Not every dd understands bs=1M True, but in this case not quite the problem. Note what the user said they typed ("1M") does not match the error message ("1m"). In short, Linux dd pretends to not understand a lower case "m" as megabytes. Why Linux is strict here, I don't know. FreeBSD's dd accepts upper or lower-case "m". From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 21:00:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3326C98F0C for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3BA81ABE for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id uBUL0YCL056778 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:00:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id uBUL0YRn056775; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:00:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:00:34 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: swjatoslaw gerus cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: system -invalid argument 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync In-Reply-To: <1482839506.750175.830376089.44208950@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: References: <1482839506.750175.830376089.44208950@webmail.messagingengine.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:00:34 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:00:38 -0000 On Tue, 27 Dec 2016, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M > conv=sync This will not work. The memstick image contains partitioning information and cannot be placed inside a partition itself (sdb1 is the first MBR partition on sdb). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 21:07:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EED3C982FD for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 162C81284 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D512091B for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:07:31 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=vr1q1jHINSE446WUTzHDKSoVRlU=; b=kyN2zJiH4g5zo0ElL5EC5 8dFE7IHH+eQxDJbzeYTGvx+A6yh1FwRW3+C1V9hEPFEPD9aeXiL8MJDN87yvM+EA 3rl3WGbiD0lleNt4aOp6tq7JbPpYQXvH9RVkheyycSsnFK15DhRl/i9vONLUMv11 2n8WmLjeYM/eR0lVE6ktnI= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=vr1q1jHINSE446WUTzHDKSoVR lU=; b=k4VZDgdkQkZ8pmcko2oS+7aF4C+j/OCvOLfBIMbeP5XUyiNmGX57K5SfD 5NrL/ItKxNjhzcV+IckNQenl6TbEzvE+WmlwOyTo299G9dKg6eniwOReqSyLjvk+ ADmNbeaMq+4fxJMGtSHqP0vERVhO1X4sv3T97iM3pSxHsKXZhs= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 8306E9EEF6; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:07:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483132051.752644.833300521.4E2EBB2A@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:07:31 +0100 Subject: Fwd: Re: Fwd: system -invalid argument 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync X-Forwarded-Message-Id: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:07:33 -0000 this questions was answered before for linux not 1m ,but 1048576 without suffiks that work file is sended to /dev/sdb1 but plug sandisk 16 gb before start , notebook can not start file after mounting can see with more, but can not see with ls -lsar ########################################################### -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: Warren Block efore To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: Subject: Re: Fwd: system -invalid argument 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:00:34 -0700 (MST) On Tue, 27 Dec 2016, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M > conv=sync This will not work. The memstick image contains partitioning information and cannot be placed inside a partition itself (sdb1 is the first MBR partition on sdb). -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 22:19:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D577C97A6A for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay12.qsc.de (mailrelay12.qsc.de [212.99.163.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1989109B for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:19:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay12.qsc.de; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:21:49 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C96D3CC3F; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:19:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBUMJ9x9002791; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:19:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:19:09 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: system -invalid argument 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Message-Id: <20161230231909.652499f9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483132051.752644.833300521.4E2EBB2A@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483132051.752644.833300521.4E2EBB2A@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with 66A636BE726 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1961 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:19:15 -0000 On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:07:31 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > this questions was answered before > > for linux not 1m ,but 1048576 without suffiks > that work file is sended to /dev/sdb1 But read with caution: /dev/sdb (no "1" appended) needs to be the device the file has to be written to. Remember: /dev/sdb1 is the 1st partition of the 2nd disk unit, /dev/sdb1 is _the_ 2nd disk unit, and _that_ is where the image needs to go - it represents a whole device content. > but plug sandisk 16 gb before start , notebook can not start This is to be expected because the stick hasn't been prepared correctly. Again: # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=sync is the correct command here. That kind of mistake can be summarized as "fat fingers"... ;-) > file after mounting can see with more, but can not see with ls -lsar You can even "more /dev/sdb1" and "more /dev/sdb" without mounting it, there is no relation. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 23:13:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBD9C98989 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:13:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8DA01D03 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:13:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14F82086F; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:13:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:13:44 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=vio+juKjZcGOLw4oTAfxty0H1h I=; b=PJ+wyaQgdXR1XFvRQTcZVepGPLz8HD2rR+mMgnk1QRblcMF1AbSFDgMK/f iulzzkq41KqGYBKA9wAP7/DSf7HbYzKnzSxWGBAIRfhTH6G4PdE5ZhKt04UBAlCh 8BUUN1QCeouvEVU+EKBgXaucAO97tqHewBpHVc7YgaOapMxLs= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=vi o+juKjZcGOLw4oTAfxty0H1hI=; b=lnAziSkhpB/sE8Sx04Kj3435AiRx63BHt7 RmIkfoDd2MKys1zmoEwVwSIwbjmDNcwOb1kmIyBmrVgHSdzHZwK/lR1kuvtB/GKI 3uVM/II2qR/gAmjiUd02qF5nffgAy52OoejBLhOs5wF+g9SjYd/TMnmiA6BcV2YN TnlW7x1nk= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 739979EEF6; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:13:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483139624.784286.833372873.30E54F7C@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf References: <1483132051.752644.833300521.4E2EBB2A@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20161230231909.652499f9.freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: fdisk -l .../dev/sdb1 system -invalid argument 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:13:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20161230231909.652499f9.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:13:46 -0000 fdisk -l /dev/sda1 ... /dev/sda6 /dev/sdb1 w95 FAT32 Solaris (11.2) bs=16k freebsd=1m Author performed that what freebsd stated .in email to author.. 1048576 possibly new sandisk must formated for ubuntu,than possibly can see file after mounting with ls -lsar,to date can see with more will check solaris ,freebsd,ubuntu publication -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Fri, Dec 30, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:07:31 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > this questions was answered before > > > > for linux not 1m ,but 1048576 without suffiks > > that work file is sended to /dev/sdb1 > > But read with caution: /dev/sdb (no "1" appended) needs to > be the device the file has to be written to. Remember: > /dev/sdb1 is the 1st partition of the 2nd disk unit, > /dev/sdb1 is _the_ 2nd disk unit, and _that_ is where > the image needs to go - it represents a whole device > content. > > > > > but plug sandisk 16 gb before start , notebook can not start > > This is to be expected because the stick hasn't been > prepared correctly. Again: > > # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=sync > > is the correct command here. That kind of mistake can > be summarized as "fat fingers"... ;-) > > > > > file after mounting can see with more, but can not see with ls -lsar > > You can even "more /dev/sdb1" and "more /dev/sdb" without > mounting it, there is no relation. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 23:22:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE314C98C12 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF28B11CF for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D59520844; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:22:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:22:32 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=iITjAWllX29NCdGvXCGIeXSCg8 4=; b=Mkmx/04G0KUwYwDIcMsvJTJ3hFjPj5ZyRCZwQpA5L9WRsspifT3hG5DDIB +5vHak6tyhokJ8oSfJRh5MhQG6oe+KcRo/laHzGRjZ00hfB91Dv+t6Bgi20Hi+BL 7+0jp7jLJRbI17UTVGiVP5ZkW+x7OSdRcFElYkY/bot2CHqpk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=iI TjAWllX29NCdGvXCGIeXSCg84=; b=RuOoEg/PkJ6SkjsQzs6fJi1FUxGfD5z88B 4racfVJgSU2hLV26VzR0CloDNjmhfiVABUVHYv7XiJxG3u43rk1f4Ncw9YYG9mA+ zOMIaIqDyv/BHKrrxjrJygnlCk7PhAc6vjY+dxxILQaIXBYuExahVnnw4ngteXmW RCHHQEnFs= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 4E35D9EEF6; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:22:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483140152.786177.833377833.10C52E32@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf References: <1483132051.752644.833300521.4E2EBB2A@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20161230231909.652499f9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20161230231909.652499f9.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:22:32 +0100 Subject: would make 3 attempt Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: system -invalid argument 1m #### X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:22:34 -0000 > > This is to be expected because the stick hasn't been > prepared correctly. Again: > > # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=sync > > is the correct command here. That kind of mistake can > be summarized as "fat fingers"... ;-) no fat finger... fdisk -l but would make 3 attempt ################## 1. 1m 2 sdb1 1048576 after freebsd suggest ,work with speed 10mbsek 3 1m and sdb -- http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 23:29:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3A7C98CF8 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9324C12DE for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE58220913; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:28:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:28:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=4MplFL03IstIr3yU2qm0FOF0x7 g=; b=qrGOnbkoFBH5T5vn42vlcGhIHgzWodFJKVbdnOILKArhogYBCLqrlbOFEm SuckfsKpLnI0mDmJMn7K4gUWb4DROEUzfau4/rkLcKfTGIofo6DBEgqPJLaqxyjw IW0aR6CnFLjHKrAnEvj/iWsgVJQ/C/gTmfmh7ITIn2p6o8QaY= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=4M plFL03IstIr3yU2qm0FOF0x7g=; b=DPrMTzQIElC3Pz069Bvr+awLzJ/uIiysvp 4tNXC/9uxasgBGCove52G3veuijSmbb4/2js4ggyhj/8a00m3mvWmRwviLarizzW 5a9QsVlZ/qAbFUILTnt2+dW2fXUgH1UL/KwBuzqPHH1drgvo43CC3YG9HhkIJrKq Raz/TuLck= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id BCC369EEF6; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:28:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483140539.787879.833384521.513DC7A6@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf In-Reply-To: <1483140152.786177.833377833.10C52E32@webmail.messagingengine.com> Subject: would make 3 attempt # compare dd if= \ of=/dev/rdsk/ bs=16k Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:28:59 +0100 References: <1483132051.752644.833300521.4E2EBB2A@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20161230231909.652499f9.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483140152.786177.833377833.10C52E32@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:29:01 -0000 On Linux, insert the flash drive and locate the appropriate device. # dmesg | tail Then copy the image using dd(1) as above. # dd if= \ of=/dev/rdsk/ bs=16k http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/documentation/solaris-11-2-faqs-2191871.pdf 16k or 1m , great difference for two comporable os -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Sat, Dec 31, 2016, at 12:22 AM, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > > > > This is to be expected because the stick hasn't been > > prepared correctly. Again: > > > > # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=sync > > > > is the correct command here. That kind of mistake can > > be summarized as "fat fingers"... ;-) > > no fat finger... fdisk -l > > but would make 3 attempt > ################## > > 1. 1m > 2 sdb1 1048576 after freebsd suggest ,work with speed 10mbsek > 3 1m and sdb > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free > -- http://www.fastmail.com - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 23:33:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C483C98F23 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:33:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay12.qsc.de (mailrelay12.qsc.de [212.99.163.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A62E717B3 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay12.qsc.de; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:35:44 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC9DB3CC3F; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:33:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBUNX46W003067; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:33:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:33:04 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fdisk -l .../dev/sdb1 system -invalid argument 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Message-Id: <20161231003304.01c07f1f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483139624.784286.833372873.30E54F7C@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483132051.752644.833300521.4E2EBB2A@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20161230231909.652499f9.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483139624.784286.833372873.30E54F7C@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with DEBA56A35E5 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2107 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:33:09 -0000 On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:13:44 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > fdisk -l > > /dev/sda1 > ... > /dev/sda6 > > /dev/sdb1 w95 FAT32 That is wrong. > Author performed that what freebsd stated .in email to author.. 1048576 This is equivalent to bs=1M or bs=1m, depending on what dd accepts for the size parameter. But that parameter isn't the problem - it's the _incorrect_ naming of the target device. The commend should be: # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1048576 conv=sync Pay attention that it is "sdb", not "sdb1", which will write the image to the 1st partition and therefore the medium will _not_ boot - simply because no boot code is being written (to the _correct_ location). Again, check that you're not being blocked by a simple "fat fingers" mistake. :-) > possibly new sandisk must formated for ubuntu, No, it doesn't need to be formatted. The image itself already contains the formatted file system. Understand the image as a "ready-made" file system, or to be more precise, as a "medium image with boot code and file system". That image actually can contain several partitions (read: file systems) - and of course you cannot "put 4 partitions into a partition", you need to put them _directly_ on the USB stick). That's why it is so important that you specify the correct target device name. > than possibly can see > file after mounting with ls -lsar,to date can see with more No. You cannot mount the installation image (or the result on the USB stick) that way. It will have a UFS partition ("mount -t ufs" is required). You should then see the FreeBSD-typical files. This is what you can expect to see: # ls /mnt .cshrc HARDWARE.TXT boot/ media/ sys@ .profile README.HTM dev/ mnt/ tmp/ COPYRIGHT README.TXT docbook.css proc/ usr/ ERRATA.HTM RELNOTES.HTM etc/ rescue/ var/ ERRATA.TXT RELNOTES.TXT lib/ root/ HARDWARE.HTM bin/ libexec/ sbin/ If you have done everything as needed, you can see such kinds of entries, and the USB stick will boot as you expect it. The example above has been obtained like this: # mdconfig -a -t vnode -f FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-amd64-mini-memstick.img md0 # mount -t ufs -o ro /dev/md0p3 /mnt # ls /mnt ... see above ... # umount /mnt # mdconfig -d -u 0 It will work similarly with the real USB stick instead of a file-backed memory disk virtual device. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 23:47:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52907C9833E for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A404110D for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id D053220825 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:47:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:47:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=QuJZUt4BIas/mSlX1GFb1UscjG8=; b=PyIFxcJH8DeSSx1kAQyUa zyhMvwKY/rOXcidVs/c6os3tTooTYSfBIlk4xo8GqCzooQGHXcp7djl2gjDIWQjm Tv6wBioeRlWjajwQPFpedZuuPuonUZpQJDIobdhjqtgI/w6DoHsHB6igpInx9MMh b3tEGfrlMFO7l2VqQwp48A= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=QuJZUt4BIas/mSlX1GFb1Uscj G8=; b=oAJgli8eszb7gfQENEfKNLt9X/DYaZt1mn2FS1CaogAle9yL+Ez85bm0C d2NaO0Py6ya8rZqpW8DQ9m+uMGIdtWSyvAwFp6N68sBoIhhuGiWZvGLTe0bIHv1d 9dc4cEjjjNhyWkc+x2RaNejLbh5yB8HU3/n0AiBDKoZ1UMzCms= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 9AD9C9EEF6; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:47:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483141659.792184.833392937.6B88E280@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:47:39 +0100 Subject: You have made error ...#### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20161230231909.652499f9.freebsd@edvax.de> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:47:41 -0000 From: Polytropon This is to be expected because the stick hasn't been prepared correctly. Again: # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=sync is the correct command here. That kind of mistake can be summarized as "fat fingers"... ;-) ############ You have made error -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: system -invalid argument 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:19:09 +0100 On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:07:31 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > this questions was answered before > > for linux not 1m ,but 1048576 without suffiks > that work file is sended to /dev/sdb1 But read with caution: /dev/sdb (no "1" appended) needs to be the device the file has to be written to. Remember: /dev/sdb1 is the 1st partition of the 2nd disk unit, /dev/sdb1 is _the_ 2nd disk unit, and _that_ is where the image needs to go - it represents a whole device content. > but plug sandisk 16 gb before start , notebook can not start This is to be expected because the stick hasn't been prepared correctly. Again: # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=sync is the correct command here. That kind of mistake can be summarized as "fat fingers"... ;-) > file after mounting can see with more, but can not see with ls -lsar You can even "more /dev/sdb1" and "more /dev/sdb" without mounting it, there is no relation. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- http://www.fastmail.com - Does exactly what it says on the tin From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 23:52:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AF3C9858E for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EC9A1635 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B02E204F7 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:52:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=sNYukrOIJhbZhdQUKBt9Exkaxhg=; b=hqNFdPeHpjTjf7o5VR4Tq g6k9O6FDfyoGKHlhni1sTt+PFzDfDQUlfkwDs6LyRoGg/16MdZhKvy9AtfMCWEaS g+MIrL+X8A3FA9Be2km3adJYrbJ7/AVgaoVB2IoAUmj7lVNSzsByWUOHn0BaXhh5 AR3z7ke18j2dA3Pvf+fJ1Q= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=sNYukrOIJhbZhdQUKBt9Exkax hg=; b=nyosvhn/w9a6nv4JJJh3j/cR9GBMGRbazHrWwLk0cLsR2WgH/b+GXdK20 zMG7VEaygl31TqyNJEFAc3B259VTzOvtfUKBB2RduUxapCp6aPh3n+jVsV7/af/K JYJLXgCxVM25s3gyMkKEed8rvICwv1H2g4HVTkBn8tiBBOrXBw= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 6BBAE9EEF6; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:52:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483141959.794193.833395217.1E36B466@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:52:39 +0100 Subject: 2-Fwd: You have made error ...#### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1483141659.792184.833392937.6B88E280@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:52:40 -0000 1.Author corrected your error 2. with 1m -invalid argument for both case sdb1 or sdb -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: You have made error ...#### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:47:39 +0100 From: Polytropon This is to be expected because the stick hasn't been prepared correctly. Again: # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=sync is the correct command here. That kind of mistake can be summarized as "fat fingers"... ;-) ############ You have made error -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: system -invalid argument 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:19:09 +0100 On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:07:31 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > this questions was answered before > > for linux not 1m ,but 1048576 without suffiks > that work file is sended to /dev/sdb1 But read with caution: /dev/sdb (no "1" appended) needs to be the device the file has to be written to. Remember: /dev/sdb1 is the 1st partition of the 2nd disk unit, /dev/sdb1 is _the_ 2nd disk unit, and _that_ is where the image needs to go - it represents a whole device content. > but plug sandisk 16 gb before start , notebook can not start This is to be expected because the stick hasn't been prepared correctly. Again: # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=sync is the correct command here. That kind of mistake can be summarized as "fat fingers"... ;-) > file after mounting can see with more, but can not see with ls -lsar You can even "more /dev/sdb1" and "more /dev/sdb" without mounting it, there is no relation. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- http://www.fastmail.com - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Dec 30 23:56:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D9DC986D8 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD36218D1 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:56:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:57:40 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 149893CC42; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:56:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBUNu1FT003327; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:56:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:56:01 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: You have made error ...#### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Message-Id: <20161231005601.f72c879c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483141659.792184.833392937.6B88E280@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483141659.792184.833392937.6B88E280@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with 4B8BA68347D X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1977 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:56:12 -0000 On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:47:39 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > From: Polytropon > > This is to be expected because the stick hasn't been > prepared correctly. Again: > > # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M > conv=sync > > is the correct command here. That kind of mistake can > be summarized as "fat fingers"... ;-) > ############ > > You have made error Please specify error. Even if I may not have paid attention to which unit suffix the Linux you are using made availabe for the dd command (so "manually multiplying" bs=1M or bs=1m to bs=1048576) doesn't have any relation to writing to the wrong device. As with anything computer-related, no not simply cut & paste with your eyes shut or your brain asleep. Always think about what you're doing, it's an essential skill. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Again: # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=sync is the correct command here. That kind of mistake can be summarized as "fat fingers"... ;-) ############ You have made error -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: system -invalid argument 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:19:09 +0100 On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:07:31 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > this questions was answered before > > for linux not 1m ,but 1048576 without suffiks > that work file is sended to /dev/sdb1 But read with caution: /dev/sdb (no "1" appended) needs to be the device the file has to be written to. Remember: /dev/sdb1 is the 1st partition of the 2nd disk unit, /dev/sdb1 is _the_ 2nd disk unit, and _that_ is where the image needs to go - it represents a whole device content. > but plug sandisk 16 gb before start , notebook can not start This is to be expected because the stick hasn't been prepared correctly. Again: # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=sync is the correct command here. That kind of mistake can be summarized as "fat fingers"... ;-) > file after mounting can see with more, but can not see with ls -lsar You can even "more /dev/sdb1" and "more /dev/sdb" without mounting it, there is no relation. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- http://www.fastmail.com - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- http://www.fastmail.com - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 00:22:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D2DC9615C for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D8AF16DF for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.7 (ClamAV engine v0.98.7) Received: from [68.183.115.225] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.10 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 1218325 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:22:05 +0000 Subject: Re: performed- Fwd: 2-Fwd: You have made error ...#### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1483143086.798193.833401249.611AE9E5@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Jon Radel Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:22:03 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1483143086.798193.833401249.611AE9E5@webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms090602040406050903080305" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:22:08 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090602040406050903080305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/30/16 4:11 PM, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > or must after dd with sdb > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------- > mount sdb ? not mount name of device sdb1 from fdisk-l >=20 Once you have prepared the USB stick with dd, boot the computer using the USB stick as the boot device. There is no point, nor any need, to mount the USB stick on the old OS. And above all else, don't mess it up with fdisk. You're using the USB stick to boot a completely new OS. 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bm11mr40324924wjd.98.1483145192721; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:46:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tigerfishdaisy@gmail.com Received: by 10.28.57.214 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:46:32 -0800 (PST) From: Edward Lee Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:46:32 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: l2j2qCC7iwwY1-FHQdRP-e4oM3Q Message-ID: Subject: Closing slave end of PTY device loses data unless slave descriptor closed in parent. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:46:35 -0000 Hi, I'm seeing some interesting behaviour from the following snippet of code, taken from here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23458160/final-output-on-slave-pty-is-lost-if-it-was-not-closed-in-parent-why On Linux, the code blocks on the final read but produces both lines of output. However on FreeBSD, the final line of output is sometimes lost (consistently on a single-core machine). Is there a particular reason for this, or is this a bug? For reference, this was run on a single-core FreeBSD 11 virtual machine. Thanks, Edward ---- #include #include #include /* save as test.c and compile with cc -o test test.c -lutil */ #define BUFSIZE 255 int main(void) { int master, slave; char buf[BUFSIZE]; int nread; openpty(&master, &slave, NULL, NULL, NULL); if (fork()) { /* parent: */ close(slave); /* leave this out and lose slave's final words ... WHY? */ do { nread = read(master, buf, BUFSIZE); write(STDOUT_FILENO, buf, nread); /* echo child's output to stdout */ } while (nread > 0); } else { /* child: */ login_tty(slave); /* this makes child a session leader and slave a controlling */ /* terminal for it, then dup()s std{in,out,err} to slave */ printf("Feeling OK :-)\n"); sleep(1); printf("Feeling unwell ... Arghhh!\n"); /* this line may get lost */ } return 0; } From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 00:50:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB76C9693C for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@tela.com) Received: from spider3.tela.com (smtp3.tela.com [208.90.22.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F20714E4 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@tela.com) Received: by spider3.tela.com (Postfix, from userid 103) id 4B7C934A8AD; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:38:02 -0600 (CST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 spider3.tela.com 4B7C934A8AD DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=tela.com; s=comtela1601; t=1483144682; bh=N0nB/pha1eJNO9fmtudpYMQVQ23DScFcaO2/66xwwgk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Fri,=2030=20Dec=202016=2018:38:02=20-0600|From:=20Mike=20 Selner=20|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subje ct:=20Re:=20ZFS=20crash=20on=20mountroot=20after=20removal=20of=20 slog=20device|References:=20<20161222012310.GA59045@spider3.tela.c om>|In-Reply-To:=20<20161222012310.GA59045@spider3.tela.com>; b=ncLcraa/EJeMmF8O2ltHEIu4qIuWfYsK8R6SC5dgFURi47bvfjxWPncZxM8Jsllv/ n2nRjVo9266fMsn1GMrb2ppjepXmJhe8TUP6mlgl4FgW3fi4ROYpNPHrXs9XXtKY/r vo815dRsygu2mmWXbo8k92s9Q6iMJRMSDqB5HZ/Q= Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:38:02 -0600 From: Mike Selner To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS crash on mountroot after removal of slog device Message-ID: <20161231003801.GC43835@spider3.tela.com> References: <20161222012310.GA59045@spider3.tela.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20161222012310.GA59045@spider3.tela.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:50:08 -0000 Update - no replies on this, don't know if anyone has suggestions. I checked the history on the original pool and it was set up on 9.3 with two mirrored devices ada0p3 and ada1p3. A few months later I added an identically sized vdev with mirrored devices ada2p3 and ada3p3. I built a new system with a similar setup including slog on ssd and shut down, unplugged the slog device to simulate a failure and rebooted. The system came up fine and zpool status showed a missing log device. I was able to remove the device with zpool remove root devicename. No crashes. So I'm confident that zpool remove slog device should work. Next I added a "znew" pool to the original system (running off a memstick). I did a zfs send -R zpool@snapshot into zfs recv -d znew. Then I made znew/ROOT/default the bootable FS & was able to boot and run off of znew. I think this tells me that the problem on the original pool is some type of corruption but the data was recoverable with zfs send. At no point in this adventure did I have the opportunity to do any kind of rollback, so I'm not sure what else I could have done. Still, I'm concerned that a device failure could render a production server unusable. Full details at https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/59006/. Thanks for any suggestions on recovering a zpool that crashes when mounting root. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 00:50:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167C9C96960 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:50:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E003A151B for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:50:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D48207E7 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:50:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:50:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=3zXEkhcvbeg2qtHq0BuHMteMx0 w=; b=l+TTSh3JgoAyS4SYWWKbVNokl7Hhjm6Ik+S8RdV7sHdxRDCJmTHpUc+3RO HNOZjqk0YIpxO/ZZ3/dXaXDbV/nl7e+OHXzkMc/XUCDzgtfnem2OudjuWL4n+H7A WZgt2DFeOexECUMfSjD2uSfIupvH0La1bFrjtfw6+5tlAhFMM= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=3z XEkhcvbeg2qtHq0BuHMteMx0w=; b=qlNDTPq1n0FTWoqbpoTjiw+zZuAL+Cl1sj pDEpUsePacw5CYaeO5mBvQtm6v2Bxf+hymirqV33VuuuSELBoycGnQAdjZlYGl3a YC1kb+Azu+6jqAKP0Gr1PWwZRdb4sxkkv9HAa8z6VfsVydLbsza1L8jBRdi+dRpr RzogkzZ+k= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 5642E9EEF6; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:50:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483145413.806714.833416057.0403136E@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf References: <1483143086.798193.833401249.611AE9E5@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:50:13 +0100 Subject: can not read with ls -lsar but loader work Re: performed- Fwd: 2-Fwd: You have made error ...#### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync In-Reply-To: <1483143086.798193.833401249.611AE9E5@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:50:15 -0000 can not read with ls -lsar but loader work in 1 attempt some 2 days before in version 11.0 bs=1m sdb1 -invalid argument 2 attempt 11.0 bs=1048576 sdb1 dd succes but can not start 3 attempt( 11 as in your suggest from multiple author) -file not exist 4 attempt 11.0 bs=1048576 sdb1 dd succes can not see with ls -lsar after mount in /mnt ... can see with more poweroff plug in poweron loader started asked about auto/manual partion -------------------- Wish good mood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a4GhBD8chk -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Sat, Dec 31, 2016, at 01:11 AM, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > 1.Author corrected your error not 11,but 11.0 -downloading > 2. with 1m -invalid argument for both case sdb1 or sdb > 3.dd with 11.0 ...of /dev/sdb bs=1048576 ... > work 735 mb 74.181 sek > after mount in /mnt > ls -.lsar ... as before > more -some change > Non system disk ,press any key to reboot > > ... > or must after dd with sdb > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > mount sdb ? not mount name of device sdb1 from fdisk-l > -- > swjatoslaw gerus > milstar2@eml.cc > > ----- Original message ----- > From: swjatoslaw gerus > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: 2-Fwd: You have made error ...#### dd > if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync > Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:52:39 +0100 > > 1.Author corrected your error > 2. with 1m -invalid argument for both case sdb1 or sdb > -- > swjatoslaw gerus > milstar2@eml.cc > > ----- Original message ----- > From: swjatoslaw gerus > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: You have made error ...#### dd > if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync > Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:47:39 +0100 > > From: Polytropon > > This is to be expected because the stick hasn't been > prepared correctly. Again: > > # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M > conv=sync > > is the correct command here. That kind of mistake can > be summarized as "fat fingers"... ;-) > ############ > > You have made error > -- > swjatoslaw gerus > milstar2@eml.cc > > ----- Original message ----- > From: Polytropon > To: swjatoslaw gerus > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: system -invalid argument 1m #### dd > if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:19:09 +0100 > > On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:07:31 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > this questions was answered before > > > > for linux not 1m ,but 1048576 without suffiks > > that work file is sended to /dev/sdb1 > > But read with caution: /dev/sdb (no "1" appended) needs to > be the device the file has to be written to. Remember: > /dev/sdb1 is the 1st partition of the 2nd disk unit, > /dev/sdb1 is _the_ 2nd disk unit, and _that_ is where > the image needs to go - it represents a whole device > content. > > > > > but plug sandisk 16 gb before start , notebook can not start > > This is to be expected because the stick hasn't been > prepared correctly. Again: > > # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M > conv=sync > > is the correct command here. That kind of mistake can > be summarized as "fat fingers"... ;-) > > > > > file after mounting can see with more, but can not see with ls -lsar > > You can even "more /dev/sdb1" and "more /dev/sdb" without > mounting it, there is no relation. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - Does exactly what it says on the tin > > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an > unladen european swallow > > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service > -- http://www.fastmail.com - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 00:53:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823FEC96C05 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 585371932 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C4E206F9 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:53:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:53:03 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=+8snJTFNOQTi8yiOnvOuvRu1occ=; b=My/x+iSbAOtAcEoIIK/fZ V/i22keozCWqWLspeCkRmQGZbR7UnU+DWN74Pce6r+wJHDc3rd8gB2PTpmBi1J38 mlZG4OImI3uJta6ltgBFjiw7r9t1tZxyDqu2/l3KkmfmkX7BPgd0J87ZHNvWB1s7 +NLPitUFwA/7FJRZ7DHjcE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=+8snJTFNOQTi8yiOnvOuvRu1o cc=; b=fQpIpHZmiq5SOcBsZJpUwsCuvg0K5f/WHGXwm60Td+JoZnTK/X3Yff5SO h3aWlhuWp8U3fSs9ZFNlnBvSWEjDQYP7i1TergbOstHDBpiT1IAh9rWebzFzYKFq J2wAcop/NwH2UUSTn/X3AdlyR/D0HI2gHOTmqP3gfzyIlTL5UQ= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id B90079EEF6; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:53:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483145583.808511.833423473.7736B95E@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf Subject: korrektur 4 attempt sdb Fwd: can not read with ls -lsar but loader work Re: performed- Fwd: 2-Fwd: You have made error ...#### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:53:03 +0100 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1483145413.806714.833416057.0403136E@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:53:05 -0000 can not read with ls -lsar but loader work in 1 attempt some 2 days before in version 11.0 bs=1m sdb1 -invalid argument 2 attempt 11.0 bs=1048576 sdb1 dd succes but can not start 3 attempt( 11 as in your suggest from multiple author) -file not exist 4 attempt 11.0 bs=1048576 sdb dd succes can not see with ls -lsar after mount in /mnt ... can see with more poweroff plug in poweron loader started asked about auto/manual partion -------------------- Wish good mood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a4GhBD8chk -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Sat, Dec 31, 2016, at 01:11 AM, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > 1.Author corrected your error not 11,but 11.0 -downloading > 2. with 1m -invalid argument for both case sdb1 or sdb > 3.dd with 11.0 ...of /dev/sdb bs=1048576 ... > work 735 mb 74.181 sek > after mount in /mnt > ls -.lsar ... as before > more -some change > Non system disk ,press any key to reboot > > ... > or must after dd with sdb > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > mount sdb ? not mount name of device sdb1 from fdisk-l > -- > swjatoslaw gerus > milstar2@eml.cc > > ----- Original message ----- > From: swjatoslaw gerus > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: 2-Fwd: You have made error ...#### dd > if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync > Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:52:39 +0100 > > 1.Author corrected your error > 2. with 1m -invalid argument for both case sdb1 or sdb > -- > swjatoslaw gerus > milstar2@eml.cc > > ----- Original message ----- > From: swjatoslaw gerus > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: You have made error ...#### dd > if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync > Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:47:39 +0100 > > From: Polytropon > > This is to be expected because the stick hasn't been > prepared correctly. Again: > > # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M > conv=sync > > is the correct command here. That kind of mistake can > be summarized as "fat fingers"... ;-) > ############ > > You have made error > -- > swjatoslaw gerus > milstar2@eml.cc > > ----- Original message ----- > From: Polytropon > To: swjatoslaw gerus > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: system -invalid argument 1m #### dd > if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:19:09 +0100 > > On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:07:31 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > this questions was answered before > > > > for linux not 1m ,but 1048576 without suffiks > > that work file is sended to /dev/sdb1 > > But read with caution: /dev/sdb (no "1" appended) needs to > be the device the file has to be written to. Remember: > /dev/sdb1 is the 1st partition of the 2nd disk unit, > /dev/sdb1 is _the_ 2nd disk unit, and _that_ is where > the image needs to go - it represents a whole device > content. > > > > > but plug sandisk 16 gb before start , notebook can not start > > This is to be expected because the stick hasn't been > prepared correctly. Again: > > # dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M > conv=sync > > is the correct command here. That kind of mistake can > be summarized as "fat fingers"... ;-) > > > > > file after mounting can see with more, but can not see with ls -lsar > > You can even "more /dev/sdb1" and "more /dev/sdb" without > mounting it, there is no relation. > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - Does exactly what it says on the tin > > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an > unladen european swallow > > > -- > http://www.fastmail.com - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service > -- http://www.fastmail.com - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- http://www.fastmail.com - Accessible with your email software or over the web From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 01:00:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208D7C96D7C for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C00741B7A for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:00:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.7 (ClamAV engine v0.98.7) Received: from [68.183.115.225] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.10 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 1218324; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:00:23 +0000 Subject: Re: fdisk -l .../dev/sdb1 system -invalid argument 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync To: swjatoslaw gerus References: <1483132051.752644.833300521.4E2EBB2A@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20161230231909.652499f9.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483139624.784286.833372873.30E54F7C@webmail.messagingengine.com> Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jon Radel Message-ID: <79fa8792-8b92-f29c-5199-237b7de7a53a@radel.com> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:00:20 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1483139624.784286.833372873.30E54F7C@webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms060701090702060804020607" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:00:32 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060701090702060804020607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/30/16 3:13 PM, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: >=20 > possibly new sandisk must formated for ubuntu,than possibly can see > file after mounting with ls -lsar,to date can see with more Just to add a bit to what Polytropon has explained already: If this means that you expect to see the file FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img on the USB stick, then there is a problem. If you actually see a file with that name, you've done something wrong and there is no way it will boot. If you expect to see the file, then you don't understand what is happening and should pay closer attention to what several people have already explained. The file FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img is a sequence of bytes which are kept in a file because that makes it possible to retrieve from an HTTP or FTP server, and to save locally. However, as far as the USB stick is concerned, it is a long stream of bytes, which must be written to the USB stick starting at the first location on the stick and continuing in strict order until all the bytes are written. This is why you use the dd command, which does that, rather than the cp command, which thinks in terms of copying files. Which is not what you're doing. Or at least not what you should be doing. As an aside, as I've read this sequence of e-mail threads with some bemusement over the past couple of days, I've formed the impression that you seem to put more energy into reporting what you think should be happening rather than accurately reporting what you did and what resulted. At your stage of enlightenment, it is probably more efficient to prioritize differently. And explaining to somebody with vast experience and considerable more patience than I that he's wrong about "1M" because "1m" doesn't work really, truly is a waste of everyone's time. 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mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A20C96FAD for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay14.qsc.de (mailrelay14.qsc.de [212.99.163.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70CA71F3C for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay14.qsc.de; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:08:37 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 798EA3CC3F; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:06:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBV16TuN002384; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:06:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:06:29 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: performed- Fwd: 2-Fwd: You have made error ...#### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Message-Id: <20161231020629.e78465d2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483143086.798193.833401249.611AE9E5@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483143086.798193.833401249.611AE9E5@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay14.qsc.de with C3730683426 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1906 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:06:41 -0000 On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:11:26 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > 1.Author corrected your error not 11,but 11.0 -downloading I cannot remember... O.o > 2. with 1m -invalid argument for both case sdb1 or sdb The unit prefix is in _no_ relation to the name of the target device, but depends in the _implementation_ of dd which obviously differs between FreeBSD, Linux, and Solaris. That has already been discussed and solved. > 3.dd with 11.0 ...of /dev/sdb bs=1048576 ... > work 735 mb 74.181 sek As expected. > after mount in /mnt _How_ did you mount the USB stick? As I wrote in one of my initial replies: It's considered both reasonable and polite to write to the list a) the _exact_ command you've used, and b) the _exact_ reply of the system (or reaction of the system otherwise) If you've actually mounted the _properly_ created USB stick, you should have seen the FreeBSD-typical file names. > ls -.lsar ... as before > more -some change > Non system disk ,press any key to reboot That's interesting, at least something happened. :-) > or must after dd with sdb > mount sdb ? not mount name of device sdb1 from fdisk-l If you run fdisk on the _properly_ created USB stick, you should see a GPT layout with 4 partitions (at least that's what the mini-memstick image creates for the 11.0 version of amd64, which I did use for illustration in my previous reply). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 01:14:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6925FC97346 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay11.qsc.de (mailrelay11.qsc.de [212.99.187.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB8511365 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay11.qsc.de; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:16:33 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CE743CC3F; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:13:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBV1DsHm002402; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:13:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:13:54 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can not read with ls -lsar but loader work Re: performed- Fwd: 2-Fwd: You have made error ...#### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Message-Id: <20161231021354.c30c04fa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483145413.806714.833416057.0403136E@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483143086.798193.833401249.611AE9E5@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1483145413.806714.833416057.0403136E@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay11.qsc.de with 9C9E56A355F X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2302 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:14:05 -0000 On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:50:13 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > can not read with ls -lsar but loader work Of course not. As I did already explain, the target USB stick now contains 4 GPT partitions, one of them is UFS, and it needs to be mounted properly (not as "msdos", not as "pcfs") and with the precaution of the -o ro option (read-only) if you wanted to look at it. However, this is not _needed_ to make the system boot with it. > in 1 attempt some 2 days before in version > 11.0 bs=1m sdb1 -invalid argument Wrong target device, wrong unit suffix. > 2 attempt 11.0 bs=1048576 sdb1 dd succes but can not start Wrong target device. > 3 attempt( 11 as in your suggest from multiple author) -file not exist Which file did not exist? Please be more specific. > 4 attempt 11.0 bs=1048576 sdb1 dd succes can not see with ls -lsar > after > mount in /mnt ... can see with more Of course you cannot, as explained. YOu did write the image's content (which is designed to cover a whole device, not a partition) into a partition that still had the FAT32 type attribute, and it was therefore empty because the image is not in FAT32 format. I'd even go so far to say that it probably isn't even possible to mount a partition that fdisk says is of _type_ FAT32 but doesn't have the corresponding _content_ FAT32. Again, the mount + ls step is _not needed_ at all. It's just a _possible_ check to verify that the image has been written correctly, but it doesn't enable (or affect) the USB stick's ability to boot. Also, the use of fdisk is not needed because the image already contains boot code and partitioning data for the FreeBSD installer. > poweroff > plug in > poweron > loader started asked about auto/manual partion Excellent - _this_ is what the installer is supposed to do! Now you can start the installation into a free partition of the hard disk. As I mentioned earlier, there is no need to assign or format the space where FreeBSD should be installed into. Just leave it unassigned, empty - the installer will take care of all steps needed. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[59.167.111.196]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t67sm115325712pfg.13.2016.12.30.17.43.32 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:43:32 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: freebsd 10 syslog server From: Ben Woods X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14C92) In-Reply-To: <1916139826.11461.1483125073411.JavaMail.zimbra@lmtribune.com> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 09:43:29 +0800 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <83EB0B5B-7D94-4FC7-A578-FBA009A17332@gmail.com> References: <1916139826.11461.1483125073411.JavaMail.zimbra@lmtribune.com> To: Jim McIver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:43:35 -0000 Sent from my iPhone > On 31 Dec 2016, at 3:11 am, Jim McIver wrote: >=20 > Syslog messages going to /var/log/messages rather than /var/log/apac.log=20= >=20 > Followed documentation from:=20 >=20 > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/configtuning-syslog.html=20 >=20 > I found where this is happening to someone else, but no answer.=20 >=20 > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-November/235565= .html=20 >=20 > I even did debug option and it showed message logging to /var/log/messages= .=20 >=20 > Yes the /var/log/apac.log file exists.=20 >=20 > As the message in /var/log/messages says " apac jim: test me= ssage" I wonder if the line in the top of the /etc/syslog.conf that says "*.= notice;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err /var/log/message= s" is why they go to /var/log/messages?=20 >=20 > It mentions "notice" going to /var/log/messages and that's what shows in /= var/log/messages.=20 >=20 > thought?=20 > -jm Hi Jim, Can you please provide the contents of your /etc/syslog.conf file, and also t= he relevant lines from /etc/rc.conf? What version of FreeBSD are you running= ? Note that I believe syslog will log a message multiple times if it matches m= ultiple rules in syslog.conf, but I could be wrong here. I also recommend having a read of the syslog.conf(5) man page: https://man.freebsd.org/syslog.conf Regards, Ben= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 02:01:00 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52626C97017 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:01:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmciver@lmtribune.com) Received: from spamfw3.salnet.net (mail.lmtribune.com [199.5.221.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3162F1ABA for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmciver@lmtribune.com) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1483149652-0850647e4d5b4c50001-jLrpzn Received: from ltmail.lmtribune.com (ltmail.lmtribune.com [192.168.135.45]) by spamfw3.salnet.net with ESMTP id kwppFX6RBcPj7TaL; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:00:52 -0800 (PST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: jmciver@lmtribune.com X-ASG-Whitelist: Sender Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ltmail.lmtribune.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD4323007A; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:00:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ltmail.lmtribune.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ltmail.lmtribune.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 3df3S8KSWBtT; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ltmail.lmtribune.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243F823025A; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:00:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lmtribune.com Received: from ltmail.lmtribune.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ltmail.lmtribune.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id ZRHlzGYhZMzj; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (184-155-237-86.cpe.cableone.net [184.155.237.86]) by ltmail.lmtribune.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ACA2B23007A; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:00:50 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <83EB0B5B-7D94-4FC7-A578-FBA009A17332@gmail.com> References: <1916139826.11461.1483125073411.JavaMail.zimbra@lmtribune.com> <83EB0B5B-7D94-4FC7-A578-FBA009A17332@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: freebsd 10 syslog server From: Jim X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: freebsd 10 syslog server Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:00:46 -0800 To: Ben Woods CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <5DA7D9B1-4E17-4E64-8874-89656F1B7C3B@lmtribune.com> X-Barracuda-Connect: ltmail.lmtribune.com[192.168.135.45] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1483149652 X-Barracuda-URL: https://192.168.135.20:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 4427 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at salnet.net X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:01:00 -0000 Got it fixed. Had to put entry in TOP of syslog.conf. Thx, On December 30, 2016 5:43:29 PM PST, Ben Woods wrote= : > > > >Sent from my iPhone >> On 31 Dec 2016, at 3:11 am, Jim McIver wrote: >>=20 >> Syslog messages going to /var/log/messages rather than >/var/log/apac.log=20 >>=20 >> Followed documentation from:=20 >>=20 >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/configtuning-syslog.html=20 >>=20 >> I found where this is happening to someone else, but no answer.=20 >>=20 >> >https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-November/2355= 65.html > >>=20 >> I even did debug option and it showed message logging to >/var/log/messages.=20 >>=20 >> Yes the /var/log/apac.log file exists.=20 >>=20 >> As the message in /var/log/messages says " apac jim: >test message" I wonder if the line in the top of the /etc/syslog.conf >that says >"*.notice;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err >/var/log/messages" is why they go to /var/log/messages?=20 >>=20 >> It mentions "notice" going to /var/log/messages and that's what shows >in /var/log/messages.=20 >>=20 >> thought?=20 >> -jm > >Hi Jim, > >Can you please provide the contents of your /etc/syslog.conf file, and >also the relevant lines from /etc/rc.conf? What version of FreeBSD are >you running? > >Note that I believe syslog will log a message multiple times if it >matches multiple rules in syslog.conf, but I could be wrong here. > >I also recommend having a read of the syslog.conf(5) man page: >https://man.freebsd.org/syslog.conf > >Regards, >Ben -- jm From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 04:40:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60301C9718E for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 04:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=1166bc4294=vogelke@pobox.com) Received: from SCOTT-MAIL4.AFNOC.AF.MIL (scott-mail4.afnoc.af.mil [131.9.253.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "SCOTT-MAIL4.afnoc.af.mil", Issuer "DOD ID SW CA-38" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE91B1E16 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 04:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=1166bc4294=vogelke@pobox.com) Received-PRA: neutral (us.af.mil: 131.9.254.134 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of pobox.com) client-ip=131.9.254.134; envelope-from=vogelke@pobox.com; helo=us.af.mil; Received-SPF: neutral (us.af.mil: 131.9.254.134 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of pobox.com) client-ip=131.9.254.134; envelope-from=vogelke@pobox.com; helo=us.af.mil; Received: from us.af.mil (unknown [131.9.254.134]) by SCOTT-MAIL4.AFNOC.AF.MIL with smtp (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA) id 346b_0042_96da264e_5ad5_4545_9131_08ccac181938; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 04:40:36 +0000 Received: from ([131.9.40.227]) by 52vejx-mr-003.us.af.mil with SMTP id 40Z0FN1.260806936; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:40:29 -0600 Received: (qmail 5753 invoked by uid 100); 31 Dec 2016 04:40:28 -0000 From: "Karl Vogel" Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:40:28 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Signatures Message-ID: <20161231044028.GA3648@bsd118.wpafb.af.mil> Reply-To: vogelke@pobox.com References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.0 (2016-04-01) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 04:40:56 -0000 >> On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 05:40:32PM +1100, Felix Friedlander wrote: > To the best of my knowledge, FreeBSD ISO images are not signed. > You can verify their integrity (to a degree) using the checksums [...] > The only "official" PGP key for the project (as far as I'm aware) belongs > to the security officer, and is used for signing security advisories. Would the security officer be willing to sign a file containing the hashes? It should be pretty easy to automate, and that approach made me more confident about using some Google Code stuff. Making the hash list: me% sha1sum a.iso b.iso c.iso > list.sha me% gpg2 -sa -u 0xSOME_KEY_HERE --batch --clearsign list.sha me% rm list.sha me% cat list.sha.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 4108f1183f0816fc0074011da4cf7a45b231b728 a.iso a7a50013af0e4a0605608d1733390bb809ec1c1a b.iso 99d2dcca01881f277152bdbaa5adc46f8951bcfc c.iso -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAG yadda yadda yadda yadda yadda yadda ... =qMgx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Verifying it: me% gpg2 --verify list.sha.asc gpg: Signature made Fri Dec 30 23:29:35 2016 EDT using RSA key ID xxxxxxxx gpg: Good signature from "(Signing key)" [ultimate] -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Crack-crazed squirrels terrorize New York --National Examiner article, 28 Nov 2005 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 05:48:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B7AC986C4 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 05:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [184.105.128.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 347BE1719 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 05:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:48:17 -0800 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 21:48:17 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 05:48:24 -0000 On 12/30/16 03:38, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Dbus is installed? Think it comes with xfce but not sure. It looks like dbus is installed: 2016-12-30 20:12:12 toor@t7400 ~ # pkg info | grep -i dbus dbus-1.8.20 Message bus system for inter-application communication dbus-glib-0.104 GLib bindings for the D-BUS messaging system > If it does not work you have to work some magic with devd i think. STFW I see: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/applicationsmenu https://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu Taking some hints from the latter: root@t7400:~ # head -n 29 /usr/local/etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu | tail -n 15 xfce4-run.desktop exo-terminal-emulator.desktop exo-file-manager.desktop exo-mail-reader.desktop exo-web-browser.desktop Settings xfce4-about.desktop xfce4-session-logout.desktop root@t7400:~ # head /usr/local/share/applications/xfce4-session-logout.desktop [Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Type=Application Exec=xfce4-session-logout Icon=system-log-out StartupNotify=false Terminal=false Categories=System;X-XFCE;X-Xfce-Toplevel; OnlyShowIn=XFCE; Name=Log Out root@t7400:~ # which xfce4-session-logout /usr/local/bin/xfce4-session-logout root@t7400:~ # apropos xfce4-session-logout xfce4-session-logout(1) - Logs out from Xfce root@t7400:~ # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session/ root@t7400:/usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session # make fetch root@t7400:/usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session # make patch root@t7400:/usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session # make configure Here is the source code for xfce4-session-logout: /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session/work/xfce4-session-4.12.1/xfce4-session-logout/main.c I don't know GTK or dbus programming, but it looks like xfce4-session-logout displays the dialog box and then sends a message to dbus depending upon what the user clicks (?). I don't know how GTK decides which buttons are enabled and which are disabled, or how dbug processes messages. David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 06:05:55 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C82AC98CF2 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 06:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49A401E77 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 06:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:05:53 -0800 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> <20161230154841.7d2561e2.freebsd@edvax.de> From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:05:52 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20161230154841.7d2561e2.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 06:05:55 -0000 On 12/30/16 06:48, Polytropon wrote: > Or with system provided commands: add yourself to the > required groups (wheel, operator), Already done: 2016-12-30 21:58:34 dpchrist@t7400 ~ $ grep dpchrist /etc/group wheel:*:0:root,dpchrist operator:*:5:root,dpchrist video:*:44:dpchrist dpchrist:*:: > then add a menu entry > for "System Shutdown" (shutdown -p now) and "System Reboot" > (shutdown -r now); How? > You need DBus, I believe I have it: 2016-12-30 21:59:33 dpchrist@t7400 ~ $ pkg info | grep dbus dbus-1.8.20 Message bus system for inter-application communication dbus-glib-0.104 GLib bindings for the D-BUS messaging system > PolicyKit I believe I have it: 2016-12-30 21:51:54 toor@t7400 ~ # pkg info | grep policykit policykit-0.9_10 Framework for controlling access to system-wide components policykit-gnome-0.9.2_7 GNOME frontend to the PolicyKit framework > and ConsoleKit installed, if I > remember correctly, I believe I have it: 2016-12-30 21:51:59 toor@t7400 ~ # pkg info | grep consolekit consolekit-0.4.5_4 Framework for defining and tracking users > and _maybe_ even HAL (but check that > again with the current documentation). I believe I have it: 2016-12-30 21:52:41 toor@t7400 ~ # pkg info | grep hal hal-0.5.14_31 Hardware Abstraction Layer for simplifying device access > Those services must be running. It looks like dbus is running: 2016-12-30 22:01:25 toor@t7400 ~ # ps -A | egrep -i 'dbus|policykit|consolekit|hal' 763 - I 0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-se 764 - Is 0:00.21 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 4 --pri 785 - I 0:00.01 /usr/local/libexec/gvfs-hal-volume-monitor 74843 3 S+ 0:00.00 egrep -i dbus|policykit|consolekit|hal How do I start policykit, consolekit, and hal? > Check if "startxfce4" requires some of > the "--with-ck-something" options. 2016-12-30 21:57:26 dpchrist@t7400 ~ $ cat .xsession #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 --with-ck-launch startxfce4 does not appear to have a man page or provide command-line help (?). Where are startxfce4 options documented? David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 08:49:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C01C98C92 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 08:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp208.alice.it (smtp208.alice.it [82.57.200.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BE21C90 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 08:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (82.52.25.226) by smtp208.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 5862940F00CC30AA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 09:43:15 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id uBV8hCFw096345 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 09:43:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.ventu: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: CARP: advertisement packets missing To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <62157b7a-eab3-109d-c927-80a4ff274e38@netfence.it> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 09:43:12 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 08:49:25 -0000 Hello. I've been using CARP for years and I'm only getting troubles since a week or so. In /etc/rc.conf I have: > ifconfig_re0="inet 10.1.2.13 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_re0_alias0="vhid 1 advskew 100 pass xxxxxx inet 10.1.2.127" > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 192.168.124.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 -tso" If I issue a "tcpdump -l -i re0 carp", I see absolutely nothing. Shouldn't this log the CARP advertisement packets? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 14:03:53 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F85C99122 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 14:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8510914C8 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 14:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id uBVE3eV7026414; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 15:03:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? To: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> <20161230154841.7d2561e2.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <99961b11-ccc8-556f-3377-56ecc9324839@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 15:03:40 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 14:03:53 -0000 On 2016-12-31 07:05, David Christensen wrote: > How do I start policykit, consolekit, and hal? > Set them to enabled i /etc/rc.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 15:31:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A146C98924 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 15:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A43631FAD for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 15:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 16:32:48 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41D1E3CC3F; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 16:31:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBVFV7YM001946; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 16:31:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 16:31:07 +0100 From: Polytropon To: David Christensen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? Message-Id: <20161231163107.64b0582d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> <20161230154841.7d2561e2.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with D599A683496 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2577 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 15:31:15 -0000 On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:05:52 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 12/30/16 06:48, Polytropon wrote: > > Or with system provided commands: add yourself to the > > required groups (wheel, operator), > > Already done: > > 2016-12-30 21:58:34 dpchrist@t7400 ~ > $ grep dpchrist /etc/group > wheel:*:0:root,dpchrist > operator:*:5:root,dpchrist > video:*:44:dpchrist > dpchrist:*:: > > > > then add a menu entry > > for "System Shutdown" (shutdown -p now) and "System Reboot" > > (shutdown -r now); > > How? There is some XML file you can edit, and I assume that there is some kind of "menu editor" (similar to what Gnome inclused) where you can manually specify a program that will then be indluced in the menu - or on one of the bars. This has been super-easy in XFCE 3, "Add icon". :-( For comparison: I use the same approach in WindowMaker: There is a submenu I called "Functions" where I never chose anything from, but have key combinations assigned. It contains an entry named "System shutdown" with the key combination Control+Mod1+F27 which is Ctrl+Alt+Moon on my Sun type 7 USB keyboard. It simply executes the following command: xterm -class SHUTDOWN -fg black -bg red -e "shutdown -p now ; read DUMMY" With the membership in the required groups, this is permitted from my user account. It looks so simple and easy, why shouldn't it be possible to implement something similar with a state-of-the-art desktop environment? > > You need DBus, > > I believe I have it: > > 2016-12-30 21:59:33 dpchrist@t7400 ~ > $ pkg info | grep dbus > dbus-1.8.20 Message bus system for inter-application > communication > dbus-glib-0.104 GLib bindings for the D-BUS messaging system > > > > PolicyKit > > I believe I have it: > > 2016-12-30 21:51:54 toor@t7400 ~ > # pkg info | grep policykit > policykit-0.9_10 Framework for controlling access to > system-wide components > policykit-gnome-0.9.2_7 GNOME frontend to the PolicyKit framework > > > > and ConsoleKit installed, if I > > remember correctly, > > I believe I have it: > > 2016-12-30 21:51:59 toor@t7400 ~ > # pkg info | grep consolekit > consolekit-0.4.5_4 Framework for defining and tracking users > > > > and _maybe_ even HAL (but check that > > again with the current documentation). > > I believe I have it: > > 2016-12-30 21:52:41 toor@t7400 ~ > # pkg info | grep hal > hal-0.5.14_31 Hardware Abstraction Layer for > simplifying device access > > > > Those services must be running. > > It looks like dbus is running: > > 2016-12-30 22:01:25 toor@t7400 ~ > # ps -A | egrep -i 'dbus|policykit|consolekit|hal' > 763 - I 0:00.00 /usr/local/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax > --exit-with-se > 764 - Is 0:00.21 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid > 4 --pri > 785 - I 0:00.01 /usr/local/libexec/gvfs-hal-volume-monitor > 74843 3 S+ 0:00.00 egrep -i dbus|policykit|consolekit|hal > > > How do I start policykit, consolekit, and hal? PolicyKit is started by Xfce (the --with-ck-launch options will enable it), and HAL is started by adding hald_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf. > > Check if "startxfce4" requires some of > > the "--with-ck-something" options. > > 2016-12-30 21:57:26 dpchrist@t7400 ~ > $ cat .xsession > #!/bin/sh > exec /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 --with-ck-launch That looks fully correct. > startxfce4 does not appear to have a man page or provide command-line > help (?). Modern X programs do not have manpages. They _sometimes_ have documentation scattered across the web, in project pages, Github notes, wikis, user pages, and discussion forums. ;-) > Where are startxfce4 options documented? Honestly? I have no idea. I got the --with-ck-launch simply by web search... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 16:11:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3E6C99794 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 16:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.org) Received: from mx2.webtent.net (mx2.webtent.net [216.139.202.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC101957 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 16:11:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTP id 92B1ED7E47; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:11:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx2.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63201-09; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:11:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.208] (rrcs-74-143-178-62.central.biz.rr.com [74.143.178.62]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: robert@mx2.webtent.net) by mx2.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTPSA id E8EA8D7E65; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:02:59 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=webtent.org; s=201611; t=1483200180; bh=7jRUTNxUBYo5hn2rNG1EV1bY8vMFweevf+s3jAaTwpI=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=L3nMLMtKT5dp1cQWpNWmxkPbLxtTkOTvOdrVRjrcJADNpnlOUki8qeMn+8nvxOe9T Sw2rzteQknl3S4aDcpjrGGrvbt/KfCoguxRuuuWNrLFU5wrGcuOxgYERfTqw/IDT4S Mc/6yhEIRXgzu+6uI94gl5DNDg4eUoQOobpIibp37sLap4jfZZTqDRqdPnL/c57xL7 jleNnE4rkaxJtycnm0MigMxYwlwHctrm2Rk86FrvGyZ9x15piQGY5wC6lR3iD/xRS9 bBhhoRsubO04idhHqLhfbwwMmmx+RRgoDe98xvmy6lRfTveWE9TH3XzN9+QvRyUJzK 6V37+BDGl1NuQ== Message-ID: <5867D6B0.3000505@webtent.org> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:02:56 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Windows/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Hardie CC: Robert Fitzpatrick via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Unknown network interface References: <58656441.6020703@webtent.org> <586564A6.4090308@webtent.org> <26C0E260-E8E9-4763-9FEE-AEC974BAB8E6@lafn.org> <58668302.30709@webtent.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 16:11:25 -0000 Doug Hardie wrote: > The handbook has the details on that. You pretty much have to do a reinstall though. I don't know of a way to bypass the newfs on the drive. However, I would recommend using it in live mode rather than doing an installation. That gives you a working system from the CD or flash drive without using the system disk. You can then test out the NIC to make sure it works before doing an installation. > > If 11.0 works for the NIC, and since you used freebsd-update, don't do an install from the CD/flash drive. Go back and reboot the system from the hard drive and use freebsd-update with a rollback command to go back to your 9.3 system you started with. Note, you may have to do a couple rollbacks to get to the clean 9.3 system. Go back to where the NIC works and then use freebsd-update to upgrade to the version that works with that NIC. > Thanks again Doug. The second rollback got me back to 9.3, never had done a rollback before and didn't realize. I'm working again under 9.3 and the Live CD shows all my network cards work under 11.0, but now having a problem with freebsd-update: > root@backup2:/home/admin # freebsd-update -r 11.0-RELEASE upgrade > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. > Fetching metadata signature for 9.3-RELEASE from update.FreeBSD.org... done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Fetching 1 metadata files... done. > Inspecting system... done. > > The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed: > kernel/generic src/src world/base > > The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed: > world/doc world/games > > Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y > > Fetching metadata signature for 11.0-RELEASE from update.FreeBSD.org... done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Fetching 1 metadata patches. done. > Applying metadata patches... done. > Fetching 1 metadata files... done. > > The update metadata is correctly signed, but > failed an integrity check. > Cowardly refusing to proceed any further. I also tried running fetch/install and it seems to be stuck in a loop doing this over and over stuck on 9.3-RELEASE-p43: > root@backup2:/home/admin # freebsd-update fetch > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. > Fetching metadata signature for 9.3-RELEASE from update.FreeBSD.org... done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Inspecting system... done. > Preparing to download files... done. > > The following files will be removed as part of updating to 9.3-RELEASE-p53: > > root@backup2:/home/admin # freebsd-update install > Installing updates... done. I've researched a bit on the web, added the following to /etc/rc.conf: kldxref_enable="YES" kldxref_clobber="YES" And to /etc/freebsd-update.conf: IgnorePaths /boot/kernel/linker.hints And finally cleaned out /tmp and /var/db/freebsd-update with no success. Any help appreciated! -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 17:01:14 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E91C995E6 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36BFC113E for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id uBVH19Id088237 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:01:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id uBVH19Dk088234; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:01:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:01:09 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: swjatoslaw gerus cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: system -invalid argument 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync In-Reply-To: <1483132051.752644.833300521.4E2EBB2A@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: References: <1483132051.752644.833300521.4E2EBB2A@webmail.messagingengine.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:01:10 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:01:14 -0000 On Fri, 30 Dec 2016, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > this questions was answered before > > for linux not 1m ,but 1048576 without suffiks Well, the suffix can be skipped, but it also works if you follow the strict capitalization need by Linux dd ("1M", not "1m"). > that work file is sended to /dev/sdb1 Sure, that image can be written to a partition. But it will work from a partition, because it is a whole disk image. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 17:03:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FF9C996C6 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 163A91457 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id uBVH3Zu0088832 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:03:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id uBVH3ZnX088828; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:03:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:03:35 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: swjatoslaw gerus cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: would make 3 attempt # compare dd if= \ of=/dev/rdsk/ bs=16k In-Reply-To: <1483140539.787879.833384521.513DC7A6@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: References: <1483132051.752644.833300521.4E2EBB2A@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20161230231909.652499f9.freebsd@edvax.de> <1483140152.786177.833377833.10C52E32@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1483140539.787879.833384521.513DC7A6@webmail.messagingengine.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:03:35 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:03:44 -0000 On Sat, 31 Dec 2016, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > On Linux, insert the flash drive and locate the appropriate > device. > # dmesg | tail > Then copy the image using > dd(1) > as above. > > # dd if= \ > of=/dev/rdsk/ bs=16k > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris11/documentation/solaris-11-2-faqs-2191871.pdf > > 16k or 1m , great difference for two comporable os It is a buffer size. The only difference it will make is how fast the image is written. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 17:09:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41680C998F9 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:09:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1367D171F for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id uBVH9Q7p090453 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:09:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id uBVH9QGX090450; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:09:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:09:26 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: swjatoslaw gerus cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: korrektur 4 attempt sdb Fwd: can not read with ls -lsar but loader work Re: performed- Fwd: 2-Fwd: You have made error ...#### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync In-Reply-To: <1483145583.808511.833423473.7736B95E@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: References: <1483145583.808511.833423473.7736B95E@webmail.messagingengine.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:09:26 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:09:29 -0000 On Sat, 31 Dec 2016, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > > can not read with ls -lsar but loader work > > in 1 attempt some 2 days before in version > 11.0 bs=1m sdb1 -invalid argument Yes, of course. "1m" and "sdb1" are both wrong, as has been explained. I'm beginning to think this is intentional. > 2 attempt 11.0 bs=1048576 sdb1 dd succes but can not start Correct, that is expected. It will not boot because it is inside a partition rather than at the start of the disk because you used "sdb1". > 3 attempt( 11 as in your suggest from multiple author) -file not exist No idea on this. > 4 attempt 11.0 bs=1048576 sdb dd succes can not see with ls -lsar > after Or this. > mount in /mnt ... can see with more Either a Linux partition or maybe something else. Last I knew, Linux did not support native UFS mounting. > poweroff > plug in > poweron > loader started asked about auto/manual partion Not sure how this would matter. When earlier steps are done wrong, later steps are not expected to work. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 18:35:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A940BC99107 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 18:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E98C1042 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 18:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872DE209C8; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 13:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 13:35:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=0VYVbokhhNOc53ckqSY3kSaQyj M=; b=ZeBgvAvRzVZQfM7lCv0y8Uo517vD6gauN2YPbL6qn6R6Nm3LcnsVVjSs2C 0T4ujNwIuxiATNK/8Ydl8N0v6i00LwX6AomCJq4Uwpo4REHYGmxxL72kFiTw+gg7 /rcCYElidHiY/jj7cXiJWDwia0Jd9BeTdhrJg/SD8r71/9C0c= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=0V YVbokhhNOc53ckqSY3kSaQyjM=; b=scHqlPXN58kPEEBdXSQZIa3169w8xUt21m GtIYCGWwvgzua4uU1GaayntQqx2vRkY8iHy7ivGtgH1qs37jsZ38TDC6qnqX2KeO BNal/QPx8Z6duyVJJbqbjaM0drruzdBQEWufJIZHnXfzb/IZmN1m7Ceidm1VnnOg cwnXEV0Ss= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 63655626D0; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 13:35:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483209355.1974647.833842921.62AA8E07@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Warren Block Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf In-Reply-To: References: <1483145583.808511.833423473.7736B95E@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:35:55 +0100 Subject: 3- You have made error ...#### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 18:35:57 -0000 1.bsd orig text --------------------- To burn the image using dd, insert the USB stick and determine its device name. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-pre.html ----------------------- performed from author with fdisk -l ... sdb1 2.bsd orig text ------------------- dd if=FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=1M conv=sync multiple attempts with FreeBSD -11.0 /dev/sdb1 bs=1M ... System( 16.04.1 64 bit ubuntu) -invalid argument bsd forum suggest not 1M but 1048576 Suggest is true ------------------------- it is downloaded ,can see after mounting with more, not with ls -lsar poweroff plugin sandisk, notebook blocked black terminal 3. bsd forum suggest from multiplies authors -11 Suggest is false ---------------------- True FreeBSD -11.0 4. bsd forum suggest not /dev/sdb1 as in fdisk -l but /dev/sdb Suggest is true ##################### in combination with 11.0 ,/dev/sdb, bs=1048576 can not only downloaded but after poweroff,plugin,poweron correct starten loader #################### ls -lsar not work performed 1. cd / 2. mkdir /mnt 3. cd /mnt 4. mount -f pcfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt (solaris writing ) 5.ls -lsar /mnt ... root . root .. nothing 6. more /dev/sdb1 -Yes can see file with more ------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. cd / 8. ls -lsar /mnt -as in p 5 But that is not important ,as loader work - #################################### Will read freebsd about partioning and try perform next step Wish good mood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcTTVbJgnn0 -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Sat, Dec 31, 2016, at 06:09 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 31 Dec 2016, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > No idea on this > > 4 attempt 11.0 bs=1048576 sdb dd succes can not see with ls -lsar > > > poweroff > > plug in > > poweron > > loader started asked about auto/manual partion > > Not sure how this would matter. When earlier steps are done wrong, > later steps are not expected to work. -- http://www.fastmail.com - Send your email first class From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 18:41:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77E2C9933B for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 18:41:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B46C11353 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 18:41:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:41:42 -0800 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> <20161230154841.7d2561e2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161231163107.64b0582d.freebsd@edvax.de> From: David Christensen Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:41:42 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20161231163107.64b0582d.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 18:41:45 -0000 On 12/31/16 07:31, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:05:52 -0800, David Christensen wrote: >> On 12/30/16 06:48, Polytropon wrote: >>> then add a menu entry >>> for "System Shutdown" (shutdown -p now) and "System Reboot" >>> (shutdown -r now); >> >> How? > > There is some XML file you can edit, and I assume that there > is some kind of "menu editor" (similar to what Gnome inclused) > where you can manually specify a program that will then be > indluced in the menu - or on one of the bars. > > This has been super-easy in XFCE 3, "Add icon". :-( > > For comparison: I use the same approach in WindowMaker: There > is a submenu I called "Functions" where I never chose anything > from, but have key combinations assigned. It contains an entry > named "System shutdown" with the key combination Control+Mod1+F27 > which is Ctrl+Alt+Moon on my Sun type 7 USB keyboard. It simply > executes the following command: > > xterm -class SHUTDOWN -fg black -bg red -e "shutdown -p now ; read DUMMY" > > With the membership in the required groups, this is permitted > from my user account. Yeah, I thought about that (and I should have been able to figure it out myself). But, it's a hack. Xfce already has the features I want and I know they work on Debian Wheezy. It is disappointing that such basic functionality does not work on FreeBSD. > It looks so simple and easy, why shouldn't it be possible to > implement something similar with a state-of-the-art desktop > environment? I assume DBus, hald, policykit, consolekit, etc., facilitate functionality far beyond what a simple desktop-shortcut-invoking-a-suid-script model allows. The consistency hobgoblin probably ate shutdown and restart along the way. The price is that I now have to figure out one or more of the above to get shutdown and restart working as implemented. >> How do I start policykit, consolekit, and hal? > > PolicyKit is started by Xfce (the --with-ck-launch options will > enable it), and HAL is started by adding > > hald_enable="YES" > > to /etc/rc.conf. man 5 rc.conf leads me to believe that there is no hald_enable option: 2016-12-31 09:56:43 toor@t7400 ~ # grep hald /etc/defaults/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.local /etc/rc.conf grep: /etc/rc.conf.local: No such file or directory man 8 hald says that hald is connected to dbus. (It also gives example incantations for Fedora, which leads me to believe that the man page may not be correct for FreeBSD.) If hald manages all the hardware devices for FreeBSD, I don't see how it could not be running; but ps said otherwise. I don't understand. What is the canonical method to determine if hald is operating on a FreeBSD 11 system? (Or, ready to operate when needed?) >> startxfce4 does not appear to have a man page or provide command-line >> help (?). > > Modern X programs do not have manpages. They _sometimes_ have > documentation scattered across the web, in project pages, > Github notes, wikis, user pages, and discussion forums. ;-) > > > >> Where are startxfce4 options documented? > > Honestly? I have no idea. I got the --with-ck-launch simply > by web search... After 20+ years of beating my head against Linux and *BSD, I'm starting to think FOSS projects will never produce programming systems products [1]. Given [2], [3], [4], [5], etc., FreeBSD seems to be trying harder than most, but XDM and Xfce are separate projects. Perhaps I should post on the Xfce list? https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce That said, are Gnome or KDE better integrated on FreeBSD? And, is there a X desktop manager port/ package on FreeBSD 11 with shutdown and restart? David [1] https://www.pearsonhighered.com/program/Brooks-Mythical-Man-Month-The-Essays-on-Software-Engineering-Anniversary-Edition-2nd-Edition/PGM172844.html [2] https://www.pearsonhighered.com/program/Mc-Kusick-Design-and-Implementation-of-the-Free-BSD-Operating-System-The-2nd-Edition/PGM224032.html [3] https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ [4] https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ [5] https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 18:55:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B69CC997C6 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 18:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BDF91A88 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 18:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id uBVIteVC017321 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:55:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id uBVIte96017318; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:55:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:55:40 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: David Christensen cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> <20161230154841.7d2561e2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161231163107.64b0582d.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:55:40 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 18:55:42 -0000 It is very difficult to follow a dozen separate questions inside a post. I think one of them was about shutdown/logout/restart. This is from my xfce notes file. Note that hal is not required for xfce at all, and I do not have it installed. shutdown/reboot/logout as root, create /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/org.freedesktop.consolekit.pkla (this is needed) [Restart] Identity=unix-group:operator Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes [Shutdown] Identity=unix-group:operator Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes To enable logout dialog: Right-click logout icon on panel, Properties, First Button: Log Out Dialog From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 19:05:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C81C99B6A for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC9D91F1F for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:05:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id uBVJ5Pqp019983 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 12:05:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id uBVJ5PQS019980; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 12:05:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 12:05:25 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: swjatoslaw gerus cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3- You have made error ...#### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync In-Reply-To: <1483209355.1974647.833842921.62AA8E07@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: References: <1483145583.808511.833423473.7736B95E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1483209355.1974647.833842921.62AA8E07@webmail.messagingengine.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 12:05:25 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:05:29 -0000 On Sat, 31 Dec 2016, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > 1.bsd orig text > --------------------- > To burn the image using dd, insert the USB stick and determine its > device name. > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-pre.html > ----------------------- > performed from author with fdisk -l ... sdb1 No. Stop. DO NOT USE sdb1. DO NOT USE fdisk. The device name on that Linux system is sdb. No "1". Just sdb. sdb is the disk, sdb1 is the first partition on that disk. Of course, writing that image to /dev/sdb will overwrite whatever is already there. Be careful. > 2.bsd orig text > ------------------- > dd if=FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=1M > conv=sync > > multiple attempts with FreeBSD -11.0 /dev/sdb1 bs=1M ... > System( 16.04.1 64 bit ubuntu) -invalid argument > > bsd forum suggest not 1M but 1048576 On Linux, use either 1M (capital "M") or 1048576, it does not matter. They are the same thing. One is just easier to type. > Suggest is true > ------------------------- > it is downloaded ,can see after mounting with more, not with ls -lsar > poweroff plugin sandisk, notebook blocked black terminal Do not try to mount it. There is no point. Boot (start the computer) from that disk. It is the FreeBSD installer. I'm sorry, I do not understand the remaining points (#3-#8). Or what you are trying to accomplish, for that matter. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 19:43:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BAFC99455 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 666E810AF for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 911AF2093A; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 14:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 14:43:39 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=GxwwOOn49MHuE3m5ZSFxq5EybW 4=; b=coJRR81RxQX8J8KWTw/f21ztKNvuk6cEoXwehN4olLjDtZjbiIMKKu4ak/ ByJEljRae8PLNJ6qvRmczhULeCzx7FBJsOHQq9V4uO3jNo1/8nPlyquwG2xfYSR1 nwucbMvJd8nTVmszVnRE14SGfUs51AqXU5nHc68+tfu9Q/uu4= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=Gx wwOOn49MHuE3m5ZSFxq5EybW4=; b=sRzE8Kl+Co/za8uEAp2qwFvKgy19ZaxkJZ 4LJMXtn60EUVaoMR8oeebRx2a82pcT9AXAGXYqW2rNjSCnp3A7qU19gEy+yrFj/7 kBsFbsp4YYFflZCGD0ZNagHbKI+/QLewLL0aEXdPA9dkPIts6QaXim+8N148k74H 6Zt+J//X0= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 6FDF1626D0; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 14:43:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483213419.1987106.833875849.231130CE@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Warren Block Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf References: <1483145583.808511.833423473.7736B95E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1483209355.1974647.833842921.62AA8E07@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:43:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: Subject: 4- You have made error ...#### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:43:41 -0000 true for 16.04.1 64 bit linux ################################# dd if=FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1048576 conv=sync only that work ############ 2.bsd orig text -it is not work with 16.04.1 64 bit 2*2.4 ghz sony vgn-31 ################################################################ dd if=FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=1M conv=sync To burn the image using dd, insert the USB stick and determine its > > device name. > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-pre.html > > ----------------------- why not work -it is not my business ...author can not kill tor browser process in ubuntu ############################# top | grep tor 1260 root kill -9 1260 -killed automat restart 3456 tor & will speedy go to first os,which would work without this kind of surprise ################################################################ freebsd or solaris ################# after test -5-7 days delete ubuntu wish good mood No way out (1987) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDDHowOsd0k copy I'm sorry, I do not understand the remaining points (#3-#8). Or what > you are trying to accomplish, for that matter. ######################################### task is performed,will go to next step -partioning& 3. bsd forum suggest from multiplies authors -11 Suggest is false ---------------------- True FreeBSD -11.0 4. bsd forum suggest not /dev/sdb1 as in fdisk -l but /dev/sdb Suggest is true ##################### in combination with 11.0 ,/dev/sdb, bs=1048576 can not only downloaded but after poweroff,plugin,poweron correct starten loader #################### ls -lsar not work performed 1. cd / 2. mkdir /mnt 3. cd /mnt 4. mount -f pcfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt (solaris writing ) 5.ls -lsar /mnt ... root . root .. nothing 6. more /dev/sdb1 -Yes can see file with more ------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. cd / 8. ls -lsar /mnt -as in p 5 But that is not important ,as loader work - #################################### Will read freebsd about partioning and try perform next step Wish good mood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcTTVbJgnn0 -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc On Sat, Dec 31, 2016, at 08:05 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 31 Dec 2016, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > > > 1.bsd orig text > > --------------------- > > To burn the image using dd, insert the USB stick and determine its > > device name. > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-pre.html > > ----------------------- > > performed from author with fdisk -l ... sdb1 > > No. Stop. DO NOT USE sdb1. DO NOT USE fdisk. > > The device name on that Linux system is sdb. No "1". Just sdb. sdb is > the disk, sdb1 is the first partition on that disk. > > Of course, writing that image to /dev/sdb will overwrite whatever is > already there. Be careful. > > > 2.bsd orig text > > ------------------- > > dd if=FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=1M > > conv=sync > > > > multiple attempts with FreeBSD -11.0 /dev/sdb1 bs=1M ... > > System( 16.04.1 64 bit ubuntu) -invalid argument > > > > bsd forum suggest not 1M but 1048576 > > On Linux, use either 1M (capital "M") or 1048576, it does not matter. > They are the same thing. One is just easier to type. > > > Suggest is true > > ------------------------- > > it is downloaded ,can see after mounting with more, not with ls -lsar > > poweroff plugin sandisk, notebook blocked black terminal > > Do not try to mount it. There is no point. Boot (start the computer) > from that disk. It is the FreeBSD installer. > > I'm sorry, I do not understand the remaining points (#3-#8). Or what > you are trying to accomplish, for that matter. -- http://www.fastmail.com - Same, same, but different... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 20:21:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1713CC99EE1 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02B4214BB for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 12:21:26 -0800 From: David Christensen Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> <20161230154841.7d2561e2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161231163107.64b0582d.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 12:21:26 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:21:30 -0000 On 12/31/16 10:55, Warren Block wrote: > It is very difficult to follow a dozen separate questions inside a post. Which demonstrates that Xfce on FreeBSD is program, not programming systems product. > I think one of them was about shutdown/logout/restart. This is from my > xfce notes file. Note that hal is not required for xfce at all, and I > do not have it installed. > > shutdown/reboot/logout > as root, create > /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/org.freedesktop.consolekit.pkla > > > (this is needed) > [Restart] > Identity=unix-group:operator > Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart > ResultAny=yes > ResultInactive=yes > ResultActive=yes > > [Shutdown] > Identity=unix-group:operator > Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop > ResultAny=yes > ResultInactive=yes > ResultActive=yes 2016-12-31 11:48:30 toor@t7400 ~ # cat /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/org.freedesktop.consolekit.pkla [Restart] Identity=unix-group:dpchrist Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes [Shutdown] Identity=unix-group:dpchrist Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes My first attempt was with "Identity=unix-group:operator". > To enable logout dialog: > Right-click logout icon on panel, Properties, First Button: Log Out > Dialog If I add Shutdown and Restart action buttons to the Xfce panel, both are grayed out and inoperative. It's time for me to start researching another approach. David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 20:25:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9DEC99FD5 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:25:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A61951688 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:25:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milstar2@eml.cc) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0BB20937 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 15:25:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 15:25:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eml.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= mesmtp; bh=pgwnhugihCTt1VdvsjoYa2TYh2I=; b=F8HRtFLBbsySU76lGmHc0 f+bCyspNckxiULpqUxRBwpZvJMjH5ZcxtZAzpQ+dNBwjeGaOfBa/Jq7xWFuesMVs DWif46MbPoAM37RvXCs40bqVgSmNHELgJnh6OUSp1zJuU8ki48NdvQz4eKiobhIw 4V+fWRUytgjOFvPREuPPas= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=pgwnhugihCTt1VdvsjoYa2TYh 2I=; b=cyW3dQD23w5Lem9+1UjHAkvucaeMdB8zmWN1FcCFYDUyssicn76FCQY8K Fx9VZZs34GFOBXIBi8NLfp1YmkbyZs4W8MZbm8ItKMitbBYE/PFhZhCRuNvrNt9S ahpoognrTiqJ8OMkKIJ+g7x/13358ooRnctC7It2xeLw706sb8= X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 29964626D0; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 15:25:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1483215908.1994765.833908401.0AE6ACB0@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: swjatoslaw gerus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9c115fcf Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:25:08 +0100 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <1483215863.1994746.833907873.3CB0C246@webmail.messagingengine.com> Subject: Fwd: for information was stated frofreebsd beforeFwd: Re: Fwd: dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time system -invalid number 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:25:09 -0000 -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: swjatoslaw gerus To: Warren Block Subject: for information was stated frofreebsd beforeFwd: Re: Fwd: dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time system -invalid number 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:24:23 +0100 for information was stated from freebsd before was entry from author ##################### >> fdisk -l >> system dev/sdb1 (new Sandisk ultrafit 16 gb) >> >> dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M >> conv=sync was answer from system ###################### system -invalid number 1m ----- some suggest from Freebsd That is disscusion for developer or sysadm,not for author,which try to install first os in life was forced to do that,after two installation linux 16.04 32bit and 16.04.1 64 bit from two different sysadm was performed with multiple errors ################################# From: Valeri Galtsev To: Polytropon Cc: swjatoslaw gerus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On systems that do not support size suffixes (such as > Linux dd might), you need to "manually multiply", for > example: > > dd if= of= bs=1024k > > Or, if the "k" suffix isn't supported, To add to that: note that power of 2 is always a good idea. With block devices matching _some_ number of blocks is always beneficial as, if bs= "number of block + some fraction of block", then beginning from second "count" there will be extra transfers to block device (even though the result of dd will be OK, you are making it slower). The vital where you _should_ use "bs=2048" i -- swjatoslaw gerus milstar2@eml.cc ----- Original message ----- From: Valeri Galtsev To: Polytropon Cc: swjatoslaw gerus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time system -invalid number 1m #### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:32:09 -0600 (CST) On Tue, December 27, 2016 12:08 pm, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:18:33 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: >> >> >> >> dd help ....dd -bs=BYTES read and write up to BYTES at a time >> >> system -invalid number 1m #### > > On systems that do not support size suffixes (such as > Linux dd might), you need to "manually multiply", for > example: > > dd if= of= bs=1024k > > Or, if the "k" suffix isn't supported, > > dd if= of= bs=1048576 > > Note that this unit has to be converted as 2^10 = 2014 > (instead of 10^3 = 1000). See "man dd" to check what > your version of dd implements. > To add to that: note that power of 2 is always a good idea. With block devices matching _some_ number of blocks is always beneficial as, if bs= "number of block + some fraction of block", then beginning from second "count" there will be extra transfers to block device (even though the result of dd will be OK, you are making it slower). The vital where you _should_ use "bs=2048" is when you dump a track of CD/DVD. (especially when doing recovery of badly damaged CD, then few extra options are a must to make exact sector for sector copy or bit for bit, even though in some unreadable areas they are are filled with zeroes). The last is due to fact fact that data sector size it equal to 2048 on CD or DVD (think in the terms of 12 bit integer, they probably expected poor programming, thus likely used 12 bit integer (11 bit value + 1 bit sign) as opposed to 12 bit unsigned integer; but note, I'm just guessing here). I'm sure someone will add more details or correct me if I got something wrong here. Valeri > > >> fdisk -l >> system dev/sdb1 (new Sandisk ultrafit 16 gb) >> >> dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M >> conv=sync >> system -invalid number 1m #### > > The command is correct, just adjust the bs= parameter accordingly. > > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -- http://www.fastmail.com - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- http://www.fastmail.com - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 20:25:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418C0C99069 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:25:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [IPv6:2001:470:0:19b::b869:801b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.he.net", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA - G4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2174D174A for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:25:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from ::ffff:99.100.19.101 ([99.100.19.101]) by holgerdanske.com with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA:SSLv3:Kx=RSA:Au=RSA:Enc=AES(128):Mac=SHA1) (SMTP-AUTH username dpchrist@holgerdanske.com, mechanism PLAIN) for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 12:25:42 -0800 Subject: Fwd: DSN: failed (Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 ) References: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David Christensen X-Forwarded-Message-Id: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 12:25:42 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------BA031E32C23C637C4F2CEE6F" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:25:46 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BA031E32C23C637C4F2CEE6F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Warren Block and freebsd-questions: 1. 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To: Warren Block References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> <20161230154841.7d2561e2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161231163107.64b0582d.freebsd@edvax.de> From: David Christensen Message-ID: <0414ff62-8d35-a1f4-37ef-fe1da0155f57@holgerdanske.com> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 12:20:52 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 12/31/16 10:55, Warren Block wrote: > It is very difficult to follow a dozen separate questions inside a post. Which demonstrates that Xfce on FreeBSD is program, not programming systems product. > I think one of them was about shutdown/logout/restart. This is from my > xfce notes file. Note that hal is not required for xfce at all, and I > do not have it installed. > > shutdown/reboot/logout > as root, create > /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/org.freedesktop.consolekit.pkla > > > (this is needed) > [Restart] > Identity=unix-group:operator > Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart > ResultAny=yes > ResultInactive=yes > ResultActive=yes > > [Shutdown] > Identity=unix-group:operator > Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop > ResultAny=yes > ResultInactive=yes > ResultActive=yes 2016-12-31 11:48:30 toor@t7400 ~ # cat /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/org.freedesktop.consolekit.pkla [Restart] Identity=unix-group:dpchrist Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes [Shutdown] Identity=unix-group:dpchrist Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop ResultAny=yes ResultInactive=yes ResultActive=yes My first attempt was with "Identity=unix-group:operator". > To enable logout dialog: > Right-click logout icon on panel, Properties, First Button: Log Out > Dialog If I add Shutdown and Restart action buttons to the Xfce panel, both are grayed out and inoperative. It's time for me to start researching another approach. David --------------BA031E32C23C637C4F2CEE6F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 20:31:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E84C99308 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EEE9195A for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:32:36 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5CE23CC3F; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:30:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBVKUtfk002058; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:30:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:30:55 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: Warren Block , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3- You have made error ...#### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Message-Id: <20161231213055.328ef7c5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483209355.1974647.833842921.62AA8E07@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483145583.808511.833423473.7736B95E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1483209355.1974647.833842921.62AA8E07@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with BD70868347F X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2606 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:31:01 -0000 On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:35:55 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > 1.bsd orig text > --------------------- > To burn the image using dd, insert the USB stick and determine its > device name. > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-pre.html > ----------------------- > performed from author with fdisk -l ... sdb1 This is wrong. As I said several times, /dev/sdb is the device you need to write the image to, _not_ sdb1. Also fdisk is not required in _any_ way here. > 2.bsd orig text > ------------------- > dd if=FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=1M > conv=sync That is a fully valid FreeBSD command. > multiple attempts with FreeBSD -11.0 /dev/sdb1 bs=1M ... > System( 16.04.1 64 bit ubuntu) -invalid argument It has also been stated several times that a block size of 1 MB can be expressed as 1M, 1m, and 1048576, depending on what the dd version you're using does actually implement. Again, /dev/sdb1 is the _wrong_ target device. > bsd forum suggest not 1M but 1048576 Again, depends on the dd version. For FreeBSD's dd, bs=1M works totally fine. > it is downloaded ,can see after mounting with more, not with ls -lsar > poweroff plugin sandisk, notebook blocked black terminal Again: 1. You can see a file's content with "more" _without_ mounting. But you don't _need_ to, and what you see is of no advantage to you. 2. You cannot mount a FreeBSD UFS partition natively on Ubuntu, at least not without adding additional tools. 3. It hasn't been clear if you ever mounted someting properly. 4. After initializing the USB stick, boot it. Do not attempt to mount it, it's neither required nor useful in any way. > 3. bsd forum suggest from multiplies authors -11 > > Suggest is false I have no iead what you're refering to. > True FreeBSD -11.0 That is also false. "FreeBSD 11.0-RELASE amd64" would be the fully correct name of the version and architecture of the OS to use. All this information is reflected in the file name of the image, so you cannot accidentally use the wrong image due to a naming misunderstanding. It is up to you to use the _actual_ filename. Some examples only say something like "dd if=filename.img of=/dev/da0 bs=1M", and you need to replace "filename.img" with the actual name of the image you want to use, instead of assuming that there is some "magical file" filename.img that will reference the correct actual image file. Placeholders are placeholders. :-) > 4. bsd forum suggest not /dev/sdb1 as in fdisk -l but /dev/sdb > > Suggest is true Of course it is. :-) > in combination with 11.0 ,/dev/sdb, bs=1048576 can not only > downloaded > but after poweroff,plugin,poweron > correct starten loader As it should be. > ls -lsar not work > > performed Again: It is neither needed nor helpful. I'd even say: Don't try it, it won't work. > 1. cd / > 2. mkdir /mnt > 3. cd /mnt > 4. mount -f pcfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt (solaris writing ) The FreeBSD image does contain 4 partitions, _none_ of them is a FAT32 ("pcfs") type file system. > 5.ls -lsar /mnt ... root . root .. nothing An empty directory. As expected. > 6. more /dev/sdb1 -Yes can see file with more This doesn't help you in any way. Try "more /dev/sda" or "more /dev/sda1", you can "view" your Linux partitions in the same way - it doesn't do anything. > But that is not important ,as loader work - It _is not_ important. > Will read freebsd about partioning and try perform next step You will find the required information in the handbook. It provides a good "script" on what will happen and which decisions you can make. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 20:48:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA445C999AA for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay15.qsc.de (mailrelay15.qsc.de [212.99.187.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 600001198 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:48:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay15.qsc.de; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:49:17 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CFF63CC3F; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:48:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBVKm8KB002167; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:48:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:48:08 +0100 From: Polytropon To: David Christensen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? Message-Id: <20161231214808.3cb26db9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> <20161230154841.7d2561e2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161231163107.64b0582d.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with 906E969D63E X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.3225 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:48:21 -0000 On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:41:42 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 12/31/16 07:31, Polytropon wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 22:05:52 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > >> On 12/30/16 06:48, Polytropon wrote: > >>> then add a menu entry > >>> for "System Shutdown" (shutdown -p now) and "System Reboot" > >>> (shutdown -r now); > >> > >> How? > > > > There is some XML file you can edit, and I assume that there > > is some kind of "menu editor" (similar to what Gnome inclused) > > where you can manually specify a program that will then be > > indluced in the menu - or on one of the bars. > > > > This has been super-easy in XFCE 3, "Add icon". :-( > > > > For comparison: I use the same approach in WindowMaker: There > > is a submenu I called "Functions" where I never chose anything > > from, but have key combinations assigned. It contains an entry > > named "System shutdown" with the key combination Control+Mod1+F27 > > which is Ctrl+Alt+Moon on my Sun type 7 USB keyboard. It simply > > executes the following command: > > > > xterm -class SHUTDOWN -fg black -bg red -e "shutdown -p now ; read DUMMY" > > > > With the membership in the required groups, this is permitted > > from my user account. > > Yeah, I thought about that (and I should have been able to figure it out > myself). But, it's a hack. Xfce already has the features I want and I > know they work on Debian Wheezy. It is disappointing that such basic > functionality does not work on FreeBSD. The desktop environment you've chosen hasn't been created for FreeBSD, or with FreeBSD in mind, primarily. It's a ported application that requires you to turn down certain intended means of security. After you've done that, it will work the same way as on Linux, but I agree, it's not even a trivial task. By the way, why don't you simply use the power button of the computer? It will perform a clean shutdown, and there is nothing you need to configure in order to get it working. > > It looks so simple and easy, why shouldn't it be possible to > > implement something similar with a state-of-the-art desktop > > environment? > > I assume DBus, hald, policykit, consolekit, etc., facilitate > functionality far beyond what a simple > desktop-shortcut-invoking-a-suid-script model allows. That's what they were intended for initially, but on Linux, they have been deprecated and even obsoleted (HAL) long time ago. Those mechanisms rely on Linux kernel functionality or other software libraries found on Linux, working on Linux, which FreeBSD has to provide some kind of "workaround" for, simply because FreeBSD != Linux. > The consistency > hobgoblin probably ate shutdown and restart along the way. The price is > that I now have to figure out one or more of the above to get shutdown > and restart working as implemented. I got it working once, but sadly, I didn't document which change of configuration was the one that made it working. > >> How do I start policykit, consolekit, and hal? > > > > PolicyKit is started by Xfce (the --with-ck-launch options will > > enable it), and HAL is started by adding > > > > hald_enable="YES" > > > > to /etc/rc.conf. > > man 5 rc.conf leads me to believe that there is no hald_enable option: The manual for rc.conf covers OS services. HAL (hald) is not a system service, it's a third party service. Neither will you find entries for Postgresql, CUPS, or ESD in that manual, even they all provide *_enable or _flags options. :-) > 2016-12-31 09:56:43 toor@t7400 ~ > # grep hald /etc/defaults/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.local /etc/rc.conf > grep: /etc/rc.conf.local: No such file or directory The file rc.conf.local does not exist per default, it can be created by the user if needed. OpenBSD has a stronger border between "the OS" and "other stuff", so system settings go to rc.conf, ports settings to rc.conf.local there. (And I think there's even a 3rd file for site-specific options, with the intention to use _that_ instead of rc.conf, which is for OS-supplied settings.) As I said, HAL is not part of the OS. There are no settings or examples provided for it per default. > man 8 hald says that hald is connected to dbus. (It also gives example > incantations for Fedora, which leads me to believe that the man page may > not be correct for FreeBSD.) If hald manages all the hardware devices > for FreeBSD, I don't see how it could not be running; but ps said > otherwise. I don't understand. You need to run both hald and dbus. And you need to refer to that documentation here, as the manpages probably aren't up to date (or Linux-specific): https://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html You can find more Xfce-related information here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Xfce Also see this "nice" dependency tree: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Xfce?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=xfce4.png Understand and internalize that you're basically trying to run Linux software on a FreeBSD OS, and that the time of cross-platform well-tested and modular programs is over. ;-) > What is the canonical method to determine if hald is operating on a > FreeBSD 11 system? (Or, ready to operate when needed?) I think it should appear in "top". Currently I don't have access to a system running HAL, and my home system did actually never run it. :-) > >> startxfce4 does not appear to have a man page or provide command-line > >> help (?). > > > > Modern X programs do not have manpages. They _sometimes_ have > > documentation scattered across the web, in project pages, > > Github notes, wikis, user pages, and discussion forums. ;-) > > > > > > > >> Where are startxfce4 options documented? > > > > Honestly? I have no idea. I got the --with-ck-launch simply > > by web search... > > After 20+ years of beating my head against Linux and *BSD, I'm starting > to think FOSS projects will never produce programming systems products > [1]. Given [2], [3], [4], [5], etc., FreeBSD seems to be trying harder > than most, but XDM and Xfce are separate projects. Perhaps I should > post on the Xfce list? That might help, and if you have an answer what _currently_ makes Xfce work as intended, post the answer here for further reference. > That said, are Gnome or KDE better integrated on FreeBSD? Probably yes, even though not everyone likes Gnome 3. Personally I'd go with KDE if I ever needed a desktop environment. But also consider trying Mate and Cinnamon, which are Gnome 2 descendants. Additionally, there is the Lumina project, a desktop written for FreeBSD (an aspect which isn't fully true for all the alternatives mentioned). > And, is there a X desktop manager port/ package on FreeBSD 11 with > shutdown and restart? That depends on the configuration the desktop environments come with. After all, you have to try this yourself, as Linux is a quickly moving target, and FreeBSD has "only" the ported versions of Linux desktop environments. Remember what I said about FreeBSD != Linux easlier in this message. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 20:53:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB584C99C45 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:53:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 192E71690 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:55:05 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7BF63CC3F; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:53:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBVKrQ3E002173; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:53:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:53:26 +0100 From: Polytropon To: swjatoslaw gerus Cc: Warren Block , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4- You have made error ...#### dd if=FreeBSD-11-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M conv=sync Message-Id: <20161231215326.eec4e822.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1483213419.1987106.833875849.231130CE@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1483145583.808511.833423473.7736B95E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1483209355.1974647.833842921.62AA8E07@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1483213419.1987106.833875849.231130CE@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with 56D7468359A X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2201 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:53:30 -0000 On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:43:39 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote: > true for 16.04.1 64 bit linux > ################################# > > dd if=FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1048576 > conv=sync > > only that work > ############ > > 2.bsd orig text -it is not work with 16.04.1 64 bit 2*2.4 ghz sony > vgn-31 > ################################################################ > > dd if=FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/da0 bs=1M > conv=sync That is a FreeBSD command (see the target device file name, it's clearly not a common Linux notation). On Linux, it would be: # dd if=FreeBSD-10.2-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1048576 conv=sync It's simply a matter of the correct file name, the correct target device, and the correct unit suffix (or its absence). > To burn the image using dd, insert the USB stick and determine its > > > device name. > > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-pre.html > > > ----------------------- > > why not work -it is not my business It has already been made clear several times why it did not work. > ...author can not kill tor browser process in ubuntu You should ask that question to a Ubuntu-related mailing list. > will speedy go to first os,which would work without this kind of > surprise The "surprise" is probably you misinterpreting the provided documentation. As I said in one of my initial replies, it's important that you pay close attention to what you are doing. Details matter a lot. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 20:58:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3AFC99E79 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:58:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D01AE1AB2 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id uBVKwLgi048619 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 13:58:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id uBVKwLUJ048616; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 13:58:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 13:58:21 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: David Christensen cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> <20161230154841.7d2561e2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161231163107.64b0582d.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 13:58:22 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:58:30 -0000 On Sat, 31 Dec 2016, David Christensen wrote: > On 12/31/16 10:55, Warren Block wrote: >> It is very difficult to follow a dozen separate questions inside a post. > > Which demonstrates that Xfce on FreeBSD is program, not programming systems > product. Sorry, I don't know what a "programming systems product" is. >> I think one of them was about shutdown/logout/restart. This is from my >> xfce notes file. Note that hal is not required for xfce at all, and I >> do not have it installed. >> >> shutdown/reboot/logout >> as root, create >> /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/org.freedesktop.consolekit.pkla >> >> >> (this is needed) >> [Restart] >> Identity=unix-group:operator >> Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart >> ResultAny=yes >> ResultInactive=yes >> ResultActive=yes >> >> [Shutdown] >> Identity=unix-group:operator >> Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop >> ResultAny=yes >> ResultInactive=yes >> ResultActive=yes > > 2016-12-31 11:48:30 toor@t7400 ~ > # cat > /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/org.freedesktop.consolekit.pkla > [Restart] > Identity=unix-group:dpchrist > Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart > ResultAny=yes > ResultInactive=yes > ResultActive=yes > > [Shutdown] > Identity=unix-group:dpchrist > Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop > ResultAny=yes > ResultInactive=yes > ResultActive=yes > > > My first attempt was with "Identity=unix-group:operator". The user must be a member of the operator group. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 21:17:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA394C98624 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay11.qsc.de (mailrelay11.qsc.de [212.99.187.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6189E166D for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay11.qsc.de; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:20:24 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-83-137.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.83.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F07393CC3F; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:17:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id uBVLHjXD002022; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:17:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:17:45 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Cc: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? Message-Id: <20161231221745.9f68fc6b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> <20161230154841.7d2561e2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161231163107.64b0582d.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay11.qsc.de with BDDE56A355B X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2369 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:17:50 -0000 On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 13:58:21 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 31 Dec 2016, David Christensen wrote: > > > On 12/31/16 10:55, Warren Block wrote: > >> It is very difficult to follow a dozen separate questions inside a post. > > > > Which demonstrates that Xfce on FreeBSD is program, not programming systems > > product. > > Sorry, I don't know what a "programming systems product" is. > > >> I think one of them was about shutdown/logout/restart. This is from my > >> xfce notes file. Note that hal is not required for xfce at all, and I > >> do not have it installed. > >> > >> shutdown/reboot/logout > >> as root, create > >> /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/org.freedesktop.consolekit.pkla > >> > >> > >> (this is needed) > >> [Restart] > >> Identity=unix-group:operator > >> Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart > >> ResultAny=yes > >> ResultInactive=yes > >> ResultActive=yes > >> > >> [Shutdown] > >> Identity=unix-group:operator > >> Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop > >> ResultAny=yes > >> ResultInactive=yes > >> ResultActive=yes > > > > 2016-12-31 11:48:30 toor@t7400 ~ > > # cat > > /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/org.freedesktop.consolekit.pkla > > [Restart] > > Identity=unix-group:dpchrist > > Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart > > ResultAny=yes > > ResultInactive=yes > > ResultActive=yes > > > > [Shutdown] > > Identity=unix-group:dpchrist > > Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop > > ResultAny=yes > > ResultInactive=yes > > ResultActive=yes > > > > > > My first attempt was with "Identity=unix-group:operator". > > The user must be a member of the operator group. To clarify: The rule in that file tests for group membership. Even if your user is a member of your user's group, it does not imply that this "magically" permits him to shut down the system. The user must be a member of a group that is allowed to shut down the system (usually wheel or operator), and the rule needs to test for _that_ group. At least that's how I understand this mechanism... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Dec 31 22:27:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D41BC99C3E for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:27:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 054C31CFD for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from testbox.news4all.se (testbox.usenet4all.se [10.0.0.3]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id uBVMRO0P027553; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 23:27:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.0 i386, XDM 1.1.11_6, XFCE 4.12_1 -- How to enable GUI shutdown and restart? To: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2c0d9213-1adc-48b7-bdf6-a6b4a577d726@bananmonarki.se> <622bd615-48b9-031a-65d8-3c7daf663cb9@holgerdanske.com> <09d1385a-6356-b732-ddd4-ebd678c25419@bananmonarki.se> <507828f7-6621-15f8-f55d-0ad172857fc1@holgerdanske.com> <20161230154841.7d2561e2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161231163107.64b0582d.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <9eb174e8-e398-5ca5-6dda-9b7bc0237af9@bananmonarki.se> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 23:27:24 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:27:29 -0000 On 2016-12-31 21:21, David Christensen wrote: > On 12/31/16 10:55, Warren Block wrote: >> It is very difficult to follow a dozen separate questions inside a post. > > Which demonstrates that Xfce on FreeBSD is program, not programming > systems product. > > >> I think one of them was about shutdown/logout/restart. This is from my >> xfce notes file. Note that hal is not required for xfce at all, and I >> do not have it installed. >> >> shutdown/reboot/logout >> as root, create >> /usr/local/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/org.freedesktop.consolekit.pkla >> >> >> >> (this is needed) >> [Restart] >> Identity=unix-group:operator >> Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart >> ResultAny=yes >> ResultInactive=yes >> ResultActive=yes >> >> [Shutdown] >> Identity=unix-group:operator >> Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop >> ResultAny=yes >> ResultInactive=yes >> ResultActive=yes > This is/was for HAL on freebsd. I've got it working in FreeBSD 5, 6, 7 something. Now there is devd instead of HAL. Which i know very little about.