From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 19 11:11:34 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E44DF206D for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=dfra=cr=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9E27404E for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=dfra=cr=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 26E77DF206B; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2696EDF206A for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=dfra=cr=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be) Received: from venus.codepro.be (venus.codepro.be [IPv6:2a01:4f8:162:1127::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.codepro.be", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E22977404A for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:11:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=dfra=cr=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be) Received: from [10.0.2.164] (ptr-8ripyyf0hkyecsj1e8w.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be [IPv6:2a02:1811:2419:4e02:2877:c3f0:8a70:2160]) (Authenticated sender: kp) by venus.codepro.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D166BAB04; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 12:11:29 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sigsegv.be; s=mail; t=1511089889; bh=747+YlEITgK+RpNIWLzqWXe20IfvflTqUgkMurgk0+k=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=x70+yMuZjKVc0TNfbublIkBE6Z5tjes0DDyQENnnEwe4YgpFzFHG+t93y6HVI2R66 HbClj49Qw43jGypbM6wJmrca3SFsz97dDmmLJs5lCL6IQlW/xfkqejmQWeYGn6gUC6 fIGnw/PWaCATVYoHrLbeDwXHJWz9kjhwaX41Chw8= From: "Kristof Provost" To: "Jukka A. Ukkonen" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 10.4-stable systematically crashing inside pselect() when a tun device is used Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 12:11:28 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6096) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:11:34 -0000 On 18 Nov 2017, at 17:16, Jukka A. Ukkonen wrote: > Hello all, > > As briefly stated in the subject I have a 10-stable system on > which I have been testing a program which opens either a tun > device or a tap device, waits in pselect() for the descriptor > to become readable, and then proceeds to read the packet/frame. > When using a tun descriptor the pselect() call systematically > panics the kernel with the complaints shown in the text dump > snippet at the end of this message. When using a tap device > the same code works just fine. Can you post the code that you use to trigger this too? > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > cpuid = 10; apic id = 13 > fault virtual address = 0x8 Clearly a NULL pointer dereference (into a struct). > trap number = 12 > panic: page fault > cpuid = 10 > KDB: stack backtrace: > #0 0xffffffff80a97b60 at kdb_backtrace+0x60 > #1 0xffffffff80a57d26 at vpanic+0x126 > #2 0xffffffff80a57bf3 at panic+0x43 > #3 0xffffffff80e8b84d at trap_fatal+0x35d > #4 0xffffffff80e8bb68 at trap_pfault+0x308 > #5 0xffffffff80e8b1ca at trap+0x47a > #6 0xffffffff80e6f93c at calltrap+0x8 > #7 0xffffffff80aaa645 at taskqueue_run_locked+0xf5 So this happens on a task queue, but we don’t know which one from the backtrace. It’s not immediately obvious where this would be happening, so it’d be quite useful if you could post the user space code (and setup) that triggers this. Regards, Kristof From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 19 14:42:42 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48CBD93284 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 14:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14C387AB82; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 14:42:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id vAJEgUYS073173; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 01:42:30 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 01:42:30 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Cos Chan cc: Kurt Lidl , freebsd-questions , Michael Ross Subject: Re: How to setup IPFW working with blacklistd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20171120005640.U72828@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20171107162914.G9710@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171108012948.A9710@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171111213759.I72828@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171115192830.R72828@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171117005738.V72828@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 14:42:42 -0000 On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 23:18:15 +0100, Cos Chan wrote: > Michael Ross Michael, you're still stuck on this loop, let us know if you want out :) > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 10:40 PM, Cos Chan wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Ian Smith wrote: [..] > >> [ Cos, do you get any different behaviour if you set duration to some > >> value other than '*'? 30d should be near enough forever for testing ] > >> > > > > RIght, I can't see same "increased after ipfw blocked" issue while I > > change the * to 30d. > > > > I will check again tomorrow. > > > > 2 days test on 30d configuration, there is no issue of increasing fail > times after IPFW. > > So, only * option has such issue? Maybe. To confirm whether '*' = -1 = 'forever' duration has an issue, I'd try changing one thing - and only one thing - for another day or so. first take a full 'blacklistctl dump -ad > file1' for complete state. and 'ipfw table port66 list', a copy of the config .. everything. Update blacklistd.conf to change just that one '30d' to '*' service blacklistd restart Make observations :) then afterwards 'blacklistctl dump -ad >file2' etc. Perhaps assisting debugging, in the sources I noticed something that might benefit some users by a mention in blacklistd(8) under 'Signals'. If you start blacklistd with the -d switch, as we've seen, it stays in foreground and sets debug to 1 (debug++). So like before, you get lots of debug info, but that to stdout and without timestamps. If instead you start it without -d, blacklistd becomes a daemon and creates its pidfile, but then doesn't seem to log much detail - which is normally what you'd want. But then if you signal sigusr1 (kill -USR1 /var/run/blacklistd.pid) it increases debug by 1. sigusr2 decreases debug by 1. And sighup, like any respectable daemon, has blacklistd reread its config - so you should not really need to run 'service .. restart' on config changes anyway. There's code that runs with debug > 1 and some even with debug > 2, but that's likely overkill. But as long as you haven't used -v (to log to stderr instead of syslog) if you set debug = 1 (or more) you should get that copious amount of debug info you were getting, but timestamped in your 'myblacklistd.log' to compare with sshd and blacklistd-helper logs. Just a thought .. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 19 15:30:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A7BD94B93 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:30:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D61467C975; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id vAJFUZZw074869; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 02:30:36 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 02:30:35 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Cos Chan cc: Kurt Lidl , freebsd-questions , Michael Ross Subject: Re: How to setup IPFW working with blacklistd In-Reply-To: <20171120005640.U72828@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Message-ID: <20171120021455.R72828@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20171108012948.A9710@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171111213759.I72828@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171115192830.R72828@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171117005738.V72828@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171120005640.U72828@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; 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Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:35:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.197.67 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:35:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <04a972e9-16b7-7751-dbee-4af0a598d84b@FreeBSD.org> References: <9961305b-1b1e-8de0-8df8-94bc427cbbee@FreeBSD.org> <04a972e9-16b7-7751-dbee-4af0a598d84b@FreeBSD.org> From: Guy Yur Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:35:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: using native-xtools's make and MACHINE, MACHINE_ARCH values To: Bryan Drewery Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 19:35:59 -0000 Hi, On 19 November 2017 at 00:56, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 11/18/17 2:52 PM, Guy Yur wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 18 November 2017 at 23:44, Bryan Drewery wrote: >>> On 11/18/17 7:26 AM, Guy Yur wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am trying to use native-xtools's make (amd64 targeting armv7) >>>> on an amd64 host in an armv7 chroot. >>> >>> My guess is that it's because you're using a chroot rather than a jail. >>> When poudriere creates the jail with 'jail -c' it does not do things >>> like setup the make.conf or even setup nxb-bin hardlinks. It only does >>> this stuff at Jail Startup time (bulk/testport/jail -s). >>> Checkout jail -s and jail -k rather than using a chroot. >>> >>> >>>> (qemu-arm-static and binmiscctl used for the arm binaries.) >>>> Running /nxb-bin/usr/bin/make -V MACHINE and -V MACHINE_ARCH it >>>> reports amd64, amd64 not arm, armv7. >>>> (12.0-CURRENT r325963) >>>> >>>> Do I need to override MACHINE and MACHINE_ARCH explicitly when >>>> running nxb's make or should it report the target values? >>>> >>>> bmake is compiled with -DMAKE_NATIVE in usr.bin/bmake/Makefile >>>> so it uses uname, sysctl to get the values. >>>> If I add -UMAKE_NATIVE -DMAKE_MACHINE=\"${MACHINE}\" >>>> -DMACHINE_ARCH=\"${MACHINE_ARCH}\" to the nxb's make >>>> compilation it reports arm and armv7. >>>> Turning off MAKE_NATIVE also affects other things so it is >>>> probably not be the correct change to make. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Poudriere sets MACHINE and MACHINE_ARCH in /etc/make.conf. It seems ok >>> to me in a Jail. >>> >>>> # grep MACHINE /etc/make.conf >>>> MACHINE=arm64 >>>> MACHINE_ARCH=aarch64 >>>> # /nxb-bin/usr/bin/make -V MACHINE -V MACHINE_ARCH >>>> arm64 >>>> aarch64 >>> >>> If I change it to something else it takes the value. >>> >>>> # grep MACHINE /etc/make.conf >>>> MACHINE=machine >>>> MACHINE_ARCH=machine_arch >>>> # /nxb-bin/usr/bin/make -V MACHINE -V MACHINE_ARCH >>>> machine >>>> machine_arch >>> >>> As for chroot it's wrong: >>> >>>> # /nxb-bin/usr/bin/make -V MACHINE -V MACHINE_ARCH >>>> amd64 >>>> amd64 >>> >> >> If I set them in /etc/make.conf it works in a chroot as well. >> >> But shouldn't a crosstool make have the MACHINE and MACHINE_ARCH >> of the target regardless of where it is running? > > Not expected to, no. Perhaps it makes sense but there's no reason for > it right now. Ok. Setting them in /etc/make.conf is simple enough. > >> clang built by native-xtools has Target set to the target arch. >> >> I can try to prepare and try to upstream a patch for an option >> to compile bmake for cross-compilation of same os version but >> different archs if it will be useful. >> >>> >>> It's not using uname as far as I can tell. The /etc/make.conf is setup >>> at Jail Startup time but the jail's /etc/login.conf is setup at 'jail >>> -c' time currently, which sets UNAME_m and UNAME_p so uname should be >>> fine anyway: >>> >>> >>>> # grep arm /etc/login.conf >>>> :setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K,UNAME_r=12.0-CURRENT,UNAME_v=FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT 1200051,OSVERSION=1200051,ABI_FILE=/usr/lib/crt1.o,UNAME_m=arm64,UNAME_p=aarch64:\ >>> >> >> make uses uname(3) for MACHINE and I see UNAME_m affects it. >> For MACHINE_ARCH it uses HW_MACHINE_ARCH sysctl(3) >> which isn't effected by UNAME_p. >> Of course, MACHINE/MACHINE_ARCH can be overriden in >> /etc/make.conf after the initial value is set by uname/sysctl. >> > So I guess I will have to set MACHINE and MACHINE_ARCH >> explicitly in make.conf like Poudriere. > > Sorry I missed that you were not using Poudriere. What's the use case here? Building ports. It is just simpler for me right now to use a chroot and build the ports manually and update using portmaster. I keep the chroot and host os version in sync so I am less worried about the host environment affecting the chroot. When flavors hit the tree I will have to reevaluate. 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EF1AFDE6624 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 09:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=d2rl=cs=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: from mail.sermon-archive.info (sermon-archive.info [71.177.216.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF557700C for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 09:24:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=d2rl=cs=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.251] (mini [10.0.1.251]) by mail.sermon-archive.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3ygNPf33L3z2fjx2; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 01:16:22 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: Upgrade old System Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 01:16:22 -0800 In-Reply-To: <23046.62358.213892.447@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Cc: Doug Hardie , Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <20171111093555.a28a5692.freebsd@edvax.de> <23046.62358.213892.447@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-Id: <048B96B6-10B3-4F25-93A8-53CB7EDDCBEE@mail.sermon-archive.info> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 09:24:48 -0000 -- Doug > On 11 November 2017, at 04:56, wrote: >=20 >=20 > Doug Hardie writes: >=20 >>>> I have a remote host that has not been on or available for >>>> several years. It just came back up and I need to upgrade >>>> it.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Is there a way to make that work? >>>=20 >>> For such a high delta (8.2 -> 11.1), I'd say that a re-installation >>> from scratch is perhaps the easier way to go. >>=20 >> Unfortunately, re-installation is not possible. >=20 > Is it possible to build a new machine, install and tune the > software here, then ship it to the remote site and have the boxes > swapped? Or maybe just a new root disk drive? > I'm with Polytropon (and others) on this: given that huge jump, > the advantages to starting over are all but overwhelming. >=20 >=20 > Respectfully, >=20 >=20 > Robert Huff I started to sftp the new system down to the server, and it had a = catastrophic hardware failure. There is no recovery from that as it = appears the processor has failed: possibly from over voltage. Its = difficult to troubleshoot from here. The client has decided to obtain a = "new" system, so I will be installing 11.1 from scratch. At least that = what appears to be the current approach. Hopefully I don't have to make = the 4 hour drive each way.= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 20 09:36:23 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94ECBDE69D3 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 09:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay15.qsc.de (mailrelay15.qsc.de [212.99.187.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 095277749A for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 09:36:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay15.qsc.de; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:36:14 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-48-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.48.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D3AC3CBF9; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:36:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id vAK9aCcL002120; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:36:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:36:12 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Doug Hardie Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Upgrade old System Message-Id: <20171120103612.9aac8879.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <048B96B6-10B3-4F25-93A8-53CB7EDDCBEE@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: <20171111093555.a28a5692.freebsd@edvax.de> <23046.62358.213892.447@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <048B96B6-10B3-4F25-93A8-53CB7EDDCBEE@mail.sermon-archive.info> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with 691E06CC302 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1708 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 09:36:23 -0000 On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 01:16:22 -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: > I started to sftp the new system down to the server, and it had > a catastrophic hardware failure. There is no recovery from that > as it appears the processor has failed: possibly from over voltage. > Its difficult to troubleshoot from here. That really sounds bad. But maybe it was just the right thing to happen now: You've gained the ability (i. e., the only possible way) to start from scratch. ;-) > The client has decided to obtain a "new" system, so I will be > installing 11.1 from scratch. At least that what appears to be > the current approach. Yes, this sounds like a good idea. You will be able to use the currently available infrastructures for OS updating, as well as for building the software, which would _not_ be available on 8.3 natively. Sometimes it's good not to have to deal with a system that's EOL'ed many years ago... > Hopefully I don't have to make the 4 hour drive each way. When you have someone to setup the system and temporarily attach a "console-to-Internet adapter" (maybe the installation already offers one of the common solutions?), providing the installation image and performing the installation should be easy. Once set up, the system can be accessed directly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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I have a problem booting freebsd-box. It stop working about six months ago. Loading stops at the first stage, the first 20 seconds I still can reboot the machine through ctrl-alt-del, after that the keyboard does not work. I boot the system from the installation flash drive, from the bootloader command line I do the following unload set currdev="disk1p2" read-conf /boot/loader.conf boot-conf How I can repair normal booting? FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p12 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 20 14:55:11 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12345DED759 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 14:55:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k.shesternin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x241.google.com (mail-wm0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E124113E for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 14:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from k.shesternin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x241.google.com with SMTP id 128so10782125wmo.3 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 06:55:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=uWII9z/WxX+54b3kpmJEEPov6y9h32aaw7PX0MGV3+0=; b=MSRzmtABthV0Vx6z6bJogppVyzpcDRiUGKy8OW1En+1Jj/zilMn+ML3VZbVgw6KgQm 8GIkUnldQAIRvmx3pqO7lkk7w4XyTnfB692tVNcCtjMWYBTRX03kwpJFZDS9aQlpwy3H OPRhlLx03alSjAUxnvw9wRnvAbMypL6LmFPlPvBAgnyljXLibkFiQOoUc0vO/TWvj6jr AOU3LkuOOmxdqi2c13Kcq9LYEHNumF/5rpKHuD1tSNT0s4g9TEu/6pLnj+P2tCR/7zbz H7cpIUiMf1NfOpuhq6pxQOfwrUEs7QuhdFGkG9pxe1NIK4Z2cj23M3U0d0JL0vc3lYz5 0OAQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=uWII9z/WxX+54b3kpmJEEPov6y9h32aaw7PX0MGV3+0=; b=ji34bZGPcp/OaXDrcCEWDog2HxkcDf7UYvcGNys2qug/ib4VCaWy21fDx+hf2tmMjY 4yXzEQKT6jAuXbRV5DVvKmvL8/UfJPpb6JdrC0M8mepiMku5Xxl/ghERmgJfFplxlg/1 5WEUOr0nrGFuGa4o4HpEDV3WMRbwMTKzfl77gIGf2X1CpLYUrlWXyyS1m8u24lKj4s10 z03sc/PFtz6hTsPF5Bnn4bHIMVotbHsUNsB7Tgbbx/IqIMispEZrq1qEHCsa+aYRCpHU AV2m8t4alPRhJcryYBE8sil9BoFgo8ogc90UuzLsQ9fHBzlbiZ0ybOtPorllk0sj5NfK jxYA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX4+oAlxtaVJ2MoOcJnAMzwjc3/Otke9nNUK5b1UP0F3oan9paO+ o99uxY+mfm4ziVMvaV2rzEOHzxmcwr48ATB/EO8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMY9UTP58c0PMqn5f2XK+itJgBMn46WMYgAHjezrfhl83/kIvxvXb3ua3BYYgm90KXDhkOdEemB+SegcipPVrg8= X-Received: by 10.80.191.6 with SMTP id f6mr7364266edk.82.1511189709086; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 06:55:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.166.203 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 06:55:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Konstantin Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:55:04 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boot problem To: Manish Jain , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 14:55:11 -0000 =E2=80=8BThere are no UEFI on the PC - it`s a 8-years old socket=E2=80=8B 7= 75 platform. And no optical drive. First I want to try repair without reinstall FreeBSD. 2017-11-20 17:28 GMT+03:00 Manish Jain : > I presume you are on amd64. > > Can you please try installing 11.1 from CD with UEFI disabled in the > BIOS ? 90% of problems get fixed by using optical media and disabling UEF= I. > > > Manish Jain > > On 11/20/17 19:24, Konstantin wrote: > > Hi, all! > > > > I have a problem booting freebsd-box. > > It stop working about six months ago. Loading stops at the first stage, > the > > first 20 seconds I still can reboot the machine through ctrl-alt-del, > after > > that the keyboard does not work. > > I boot the system from the installation flash drive, from the bootloade= r > > command line I do the following > > unload > > set currdev=3D"disk1p2" > > read-conf /boot/loader.conf > > boot-conf > > > > How I can repair normal booting? > > > > FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p12 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > --=20 Best regards, Konstantin Shesternin From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 20 15:22:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CEADEEC50 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 15:22:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kennethhatteland@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x235.google.com (mail-lf0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCD652521 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 15:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kennethhatteland@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-x235.google.com with SMTP id 73so10502400lfu.10 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 07:22:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=uxQMheg5FysySRRDIrX3afnjQBdOpTeEoeWJxgqBg3c=; b=CV78QpVpx4c51YM4C7Za2+ls0tAZq42lzfKlNOs1dKA2EMfmklCFB2k7fARyVv0Fuw jx3BASvemHNNuZgAcD8szk9jTJSm1v3+qxwkPM/A90HVLjcQMRX3AM1roZYjarwqqa2m XWxXWlpaH2k62YY6kCx2v3HZq/duSxKAfM8sOuuLyC1hGwq59H9Lpj/mlQCvA3rqMNW2 kdmVmNHIH6HwonxJJsvrRPfiamqK/8Lk3trQl3EUeqlmvuZujxMFagBn14+MtyRQQGUS VUTtF3rpsBTF6bjfJBGtRiZdikDG1DKArTHob6KcAAWbsm/NQkEBfH8baZy6t7b9uS4+ NFGA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=uxQMheg5FysySRRDIrX3afnjQBdOpTeEoeWJxgqBg3c=; b=doevNkRgovpowo6BdbVI6w55rOylbkoDcTV/mpZ+gbx5UjNgHp9TaKixsHBIZDcCNj kAqxZ+7neMcAzUk6N9lxXhvQZPHaAqCz+cIm0Z+zeiwQ0C2PJz2qva0Vg8tAh1fwWBM6 YuYNhY8H7xjeo2QzPeGtsXCpJV7kp3cayptsi8kuWVVocJ0aCXRADD9+0JAkNUOVPFbD XECPclxivYF7cNYXBLBnfkoGnUxrWZuY2vFrDHYjWPNf5aMigBSTmI6HXbk8zcIiKix7 XV0HqAigaHAOuYU6tJXBimbiEAve6upczKxIk2Z+UrieD17Rv8Ntc6ao0ggmAl8wC8cV 0geQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX4r3gUwnz0JnN/ce/pvH4oSjDL8B2LQbgFo3po4sw/3hAWnJ6jA jSneNq7rB9ZfczA5UDdv8jX0LEeW X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMb3RUD8QtygffMbEPyIcI+7tCa3pQJJvK6SD3cQ15HEGQ90tBFsrJBU6nwkrDPLG2VlXKT/0g== X-Received: by 10.46.22.15 with SMTP id w15mr4769384ljd.17.1511191348119; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 07:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2a01:79d:7376:5174:be30:5bff:fed4:aad5? ([2a01:79d:7376:5174:be30:5bff:fed4:aad5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i18sm380523lfj.35.2017.11.20.07.22.26 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Nov 2017 07:22:27 -0800 (PST) From: Kenneth Hatteland X-Google-Original-From: Kenneth Hatteland To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 11.1 SSD low browser performance Message-ID: <34c0a9bc-26f1-2203-eb9e-fc9ea00484de@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:22:26 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 15:22:31 -0000 I have a problem that annoys me and makes my desktop use painful. I have put a rather cheap Kingdian SSD into my box after my HDD seemed slow, but it did not enhance performance that much. It is when I use internet browsers the problem occurs. The browser works slow, freeze very often and video is choppy. It is from time to time impossible to switch between tabs, and graphics load painfully slow. When these things occur, the hard drive light blinks madly. When I use the machine with other software it is snappy and responsive. Music is flawless etc. So onlly when  I use firefox, Chromium or Iridium. I have been thinking perhaps something about TRIM should be set up ? Or does anyone have other clues what I can do/check ? Kenneth From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 20 16:04:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4FCDEFC9D for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from oceanview.tundraware.com (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailman.tundraware.com", Issuer "mailman.tundraware.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B1FD3F30 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:04:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by oceanview.tundraware.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id vAKG3sGL035422 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:03:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.1 SSD low browser performance To: Kenneth Hatteland , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <34c0a9bc-26f1-2203-eb9e-fc9ea00484de@gmail.com> From: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <9eaad066-626c-6a30-49d3-cbd4cd214cec@tundraware.com> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:03:49 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <34c0a9bc-26f1-2203-eb9e-fc9ea00484de@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]); Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:03:55 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: vAKG3sGL035422 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.899, required 1, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, AWL 0.11, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.01) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:04:05 -0000 On 11/20/2017 09:22 AM, Kenneth Hatteland wrote: > I have a problem that annoys me and makes my desktop use painful. I have put a rather cheap Kingdian SSD into my box after my HDD seemed slow, but it did not enhance performance that much. It is when I use internet browsers the problem occurs. The browser works slow, freeze very often and video is choppy. It is from time to time impossible to switch between tabs, and graphics load painfully slow. When these things occur, the hard drive light blinks madly. > > When I use the machine with other software it is snappy and responsive. Music is flawless etc. So onlly when  I use firefox, Chromium or Iridium. > > I have been thinking perhaps something about TRIM should be set up ? Or does anyone have other clues what I can do/check ? > > > Kenneth > It's seems doubtful this would be the disk. Browsers work fine even with mechanical drives. I suggest you install htop and watch in one window while you use your browser. You can watch who is using memory, CPU, paging activity, and a lot of other performance related material. Browsers are typically resource pigs and you could simply not have enough memory or cpu to run one. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 20 16:49:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D14DF0BD0 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rosettas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x233.google.com (mail-wr0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F172F646D2; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rosettas@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x233.google.com with SMTP id k18so3695248wre.1; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 08:49:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=EBtebdy6+Hys+2ZgA7+YcaRus04Tz6/RKmE2yr2IE54=; b=r0Y3MGMUxlNoUsOG5n758jnfZKZOfxij6R+GPT3KvUA/WXcBo/4bbMiKAEAaBBWcor 4jLe5Fmuw6u7j4oADLBht6yL9CMCwkd4U+bcZAWJwSN6SCqlpSFfC+cwvOugroNIcPBm ZyZmGGjfDsLJXPbIjfDPtCHUdDDygXJB3vc+WTQJYNIqbnhmGFi7RzNL6cLWfKmp2Iou o0NjYJhdCH31gTJ5NGUrLoeSSYNOO5VI0EosizynHS44zdKZwsKCk74wplbHGzNUg8Lq vmT2vBeWhtn3w7fRHWZMR7Y2ZNsOYRwvlqwufWi7Orhv9+G8GeoVFx0Qp/pzl5smewPS xgFg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=EBtebdy6+Hys+2ZgA7+YcaRus04Tz6/RKmE2yr2IE54=; b=cp9wRZ67BeEYz3cFP8mTMhhajkq6XB/DgzMXvQueywj70sOswm+hFFeCkBBh86rUTl yKSQdM+uaBHG8fpFs4g4Qp/cWslQTK3wb+kvp8JLWQ8aYSy5XvTD/75yfIFxzTUfVRXa 0UKuFTEtemNVL2cI3DXQZDXNzJbb3QDc14E4+ZLi3KHyon6VC+oaIBEJbgi1rh+YfRp+ HgeWppJHneOqg2JfYVU/Wu3Jgr7Ef7UV/SIEjajIYX5nVTq9Rm34fwivgYpeBRQXu6gn sbyPgaHJsDYAbjGERmo0HBFPHzCnzEjgCxp/peXuL9ltlxZhNo/JXlDPh0Tf/uXsw0V0 PNtQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6mHqgEqwq8cweC/mjd/2PCsLREsuLqR300sV600ROkxBI4/d9k UR8/ijmSpA5kXQIxLW5AMGl09Peky598dO2sacY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbV0b5nrKpXhUUTvx7Uj4E1m4tRBLeDtaiYGk6cWMVLYSWVwSrltp+O2eajPFHQo8ZUb3Rgtmy37GObkOvK6a0= X-Received: by 10.223.151.136 with SMTP id s8mr7081728wrb.94.1511196548160; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 08:49:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.40.214 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 08:49:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20171120005640.U72828@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20171107162914.G9710@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171108012948.A9710@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171111213759.I72828@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171115192830.R72828@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171117005738.V72828@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20171120005640.U72828@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Cos Chan Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:49:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to setup IPFW working with blacklistd To: Ian Smith Cc: Kurt Lidl , freebsd-questions , Michael Ross Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:49:10 -0000 On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Ian Smith wrote: > On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 23:18:15 +0100, Cos Chan wrote: > > > Michael Ross > > Michael, you're still stuck on this loop, let us know if you want out :) > > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 10:40 PM, Cos Chan wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Ian Smith > wrote: > [..] > > > >> [ Cos, do you get any different behaviour if you set duration to some > > >> value other than '*'? 30d should be near enough forever for testing > ] > > >> > > > > > > RIght, I can't see same "increased after ipfw blocked" issue while I > > > change the * to 30d. > > > > > > I will check again tomorrow. > > > > > > > 2 days test on 30d configuration, there is no issue of increasing fail > > times after IPFW. > > > > So, only * option has such issue? > > Maybe. To confirm whether '*' = -1 = 'forever' duration has an issue, > I'd try changing one thing - and only one thing - for another day or so. > > first take a full 'blacklistctl dump -ad > file1' for complete state. > and 'ipfw table port66 list', a copy of the config .. everything. > > Update blacklistd.conf to change just that one '30d' to '*' > > service blacklistd restart > > Make observations :) then afterwards 'blacklistctl dump -ad >file2' etc. > I followed the instruction and got bctldumpad for 30d and bctldumpad2 for * $ cat bctldumpad | grep [3-9]/2 (nothing since all 2/2 or 1/2) $ cat bctldumpad2 | grep [3-9]/2 153.149.173.211/32:22 OK 3/2 2017/11/20 14:09:45 171.78.235.174/32:22 OK 4/2 2017/11/20 14:18:25 115.146.127.81/32:22 OK 3/2 2017/11/20 14:09:32 60.7.70.205/32:22 OK 3/2 2017/11/20 15:06:30 60.172.229.43/32:22 OK 3/2 2017/11/20 14:51:15 103.48.116.47/32:22 OK 3/2 2017/11/20 14:59:50 122.114.207.2/32:22 OK 3/2 2017/11/20 15:01:41 91.99.102.90/32:22 OK 3/2 2017/11/20 15:02:37 36.189.255.161/32:22 OK 3/2 2017/11/20 15:02:06 Please let me know in case you wanna see diff. I found another thing might be interesting. seems even I stop the IPFW the 2/2 will not be increased to 3/2 in case the duration is 30d instead of *. short summary : 1. while the duration is *, even IPFW blocks the IP the nfail number is still increased. (we saw from past logs) 2. while the duration is 30d, even IPFW not running the nfail number would not be increased to more than maximum one. > > Perhaps assisting debugging, in the sources I noticed something that > might benefit some users by a mention in blacklistd(8) under 'Signals'. > > If you start blacklistd with the -d switch, as we've seen, it stays in > foreground and sets debug to 1 (debug++). So like before, you get lots > of debug info, but that to stdout and without timestamps. > > If instead you start it without -d, blacklistd becomes a daemon and > creates its pidfile, but then doesn't seem to log much detail - which is > normally what you'd want. > > But then if you signal sigusr1 (kill -USR1 /var/run/blacklistd.pid) it > increases debug by 1. sigusr2 decreases debug by 1. And sighup, like > any respectable daemon, has blacklistd reread its config - so you should > not really need to run 'service .. restart' on config changes anyway. > > There's code that runs with debug > 1 and some even with debug > 2, but > that's likely overkill. But as long as you haven't used -v (to log to > stderr instead of syslog) if you set debug = 1 (or more) you should get > that copious amount of debug info you were getting, but timestamped in > your 'myblacklistd.log' to compare with sshd and blacklistd-helper logs. > Yes your updated command "# kill -s USR1 `cat /var/run/blacklistd.pid`" is running well. I could get detailed logs instead. Seems the command "#kill -USR1 5028" is also working? the 5028 is blacklistd pid I got from ps -aux. > > Just a thought .. > > cheers, Ian > -- with kind regards From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 20 17:18:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45880DF142A for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) Received: from mailrelay118.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay118.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.20.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "relay.skynet.be", Issuer "GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B92EB65549 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@freebsd.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes IronPort-PHdr: =?us-ascii?q?9a23=3AC+TypBac21YNljZAY28Inx3/LSx+4OfEezUN459i?= =?us-ascii?q?sYplN5qZoMSzbnLW6fgltlLVR4KTs6sC0LuG9fi4EUU7or+5+EgYd5JNUxJXwe?= =?us-ascii?q?43pCcHRPC/NEvgMfTxZDY7FskRHHVs/nW8LFQHUJ2mPw6arXK99yMdFQviPgRp?= =?us-ascii?q?OOv1BpTSj8Oq3Oyu5pHfeQtFiT6+bL9oMBm6sRjau9ULj4dlNqs/0AbCrGFSe+?= =?us-ascii?q?RRy2NoJFaTkAj568yt4pNt8Dletuw4+cJYXqr0Y6o3TbpDDDQ7KG81/9HktQPC?= =?us-ascii?q?TQSU+HQRVHgdnwdSDAjE6BH6WYrxsjf/u+Fg1iSWIdH6QLYpUjm58axlVAHnhz?= =?us-ascii?q?sGNz4h8WHYlMpwjL5AoBm8oxBz2pPYbJ2JOPZ7eK7WYNEUSndbXstJWSJPAp2y?= =?us-ascii?q?YZYMAeUDM+ZXoJXyqkALrReiGQWhHv/jxiNKi3LwwKY00/4hEQbD3AE4AdwOsX?= =?us-ascii?q?bUrNHoP6oMVuC1y7LIwivGb/xM3zf985XDfxc9ofGNX7JwddHcx0k1FwzbkFqd?= =?us-ascii?q?tJHrMT2P2uQKqWib4PNtWOSygGAkswF8ujuiyto2hoXXiY8YykrI+Th7zYsxP9?= =?us-ascii?q?G1SUx2bNi5G5VKrS6aLZF5QsY6TmFtvyY116MJtIagfCgP1JQn3xnfa+Gbc4SQ?= =?us-ascii?q?4hLsSuKRITBgiXJmYr2/gxey8U2+xe3mUcm4ykpKritHktnIrHwCyxvT6s+cSv?= =?us-ascii?q?Rj+0euwzCP1xvJ5uFDO0A0mrLXK58nwrEuipoeqUfOEjLslEnog6Kbdl8o9vWq?= =?us-ascii?q?5unjeLnrp52RO5dxig7kM6QunsK/Af4/MggLR2Wb5eW81L/n/UDiTrVKlOM5nb?= =?us-ascii?q?fCv5DBOMsXvKm5AxVa0oo78RawEy+m0MgEnXkANF9FewyIj47vO17QPPD4Dfe/?= =?us-ascii?q?jE6wkDd32f/GOqfuApPQIXXYn7fheKxy609YyAYp0d9f4JdUWfk9J6fQV0n3uc?= =?us-ascii?q?DYRj8wLxC5x+/hBJ0p1Y4YX2+TAq+QLL/ftVaO6sogJuCNYMkevzOreNY/4Pu7?= =?us-ascii?q?sX47nRc2eq6y0J4ebmvwSuhnIUGxT2Dhj/06PSENpAVoH7+is0GLTTMGPyX6ZK?= =?us-ascii?q?k7/DxuTdv+VYo=3D?= X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2A4BwBhDRNa/0Oz9VFbGwEBAQEDAQEBC?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBAYM8VhBuJ4N/ixOOMwEBgXw0AYgnjgaCESmBYoM6AoR+QRcBAQEBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BaiiCOCQBgkIBBSMzIxALGAkhAgIPEhgeBhOKDQMZqFmCJ4czDYM1AQEBAQEBB?= =?us-ascii?q?AEBAQEBFA+DNIVFgyuCa4VFgmMFiiqHSpANPYRJgymIIYRsgQCBI4oShySNLIp?= =?us-ascii?q?AIAE3gXRVMgiDLQmCUAMcgWhANotMAQEB?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2A4BwBhDRNa/0Oz9VFbGwEBAQEDAQEBCQEBAYM8VhBuJ4N?= =?us-ascii?q?/ixOOMwEBgXw0AYgnjgaCESmBYoM6AoR+QRcBAQEBAQEBAQEBaiiCOCQBgkIBB?= =?us-ascii?q?SMzIxALGAkhAgIPEhgeBhOKDQMZqFmCJ4czDYM1AQEBAQEBBAEBAQEBFA+DNIV?= =?us-ascii?q?FgyuCa4VFgmMFiiqHSpANPYRJgymIIYRsgQCBI4oShySNLIpAIAE3gXRVMgiDL?= =?us-ascii?q?QmCUAMcgWhANotMAQEB?= Received: from 67.179-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([81.245.179.67]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 20 Nov 2017 18:17:29 +0100 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id vAKHHSeR011920; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:17:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 18:17:27 +0100 From: Tijl Coosemans To: Kenneth Hatteland Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.1 SSD low browser performance Message-ID: <20171120181727.7881bfd0@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <34c0a9bc-26f1-2203-eb9e-fc9ea00484de@gmail.com> References: <34c0a9bc-26f1-2203-eb9e-fc9ea00484de@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MP_/.qy4G/biVXZ3Cn_fEk4794O" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:18:45 -0000 --MP_/.qy4G/biVXZ3Cn_fEk4794O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:22:26 +0100 Kenneth Hatteland wrote: > I have a problem that annoys me and makes my desktop use painful. I have= =20 > put a rather cheap Kingdian SSD into my box after my HDD seemed slow,=20 > but it did not enhance performance that much. It is when I use internet=20 > browsers the problem occurs. The browser works slow, freeze very often=20 > and video is choppy. It is from time to time impossible to switch=20 > between tabs, and graphics load painfully slow. When these things occur,= =20 > the hard drive light blinks madly. >=20 > When I use the machine with other software it is snappy and responsive.=20 > Music is flawless etc. So onlly when=C2=A0 I use firefox, Chromium or Iri= dium. >=20 > I have been thinking perhaps something about TRIM should be set up ? Or=20 > does anyone have other clues what I can do/check ? If you have enough memory try mounting tmpfs on /tmp. If not, try the attached patch for firefox. Just drop it in /usr/ports/www/firefox/files and rebuild firefox. --MP_/.qy4G/biVXZ3Cn_fEk4794O Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=patch-shmem --- ipc/chromium/src/base/shared_memory.h.orig 2017-06-15 20:51:57 UTC +++ ipc/chromium/src/base/shared_memory.h @@ -114,7 +114,6 @@ class SharedMemory { // are technically only unique to a single filesystem. However, we always // allocate shared memory backing files from the same directory, so will end // up on the same filesystem. - SharedMemoryId id() const { return inode_; } #endif // Closes the open shared memory segment. @@ -174,7 +173,6 @@ class SharedMemory { HANDLE mapped_file_; #elif defined(OS_POSIX) int mapped_file_; - ino_t inode_; #endif void* memory_; bool read_only_; --- ipc/chromium/src/base/shared_memory_posix.cc.orig 2017-06-15 20:51:57 UTC +++ ipc/chromium/src/base/shared_memory_posix.cc @@ -22,7 +22,6 @@ namespace base { SharedMemory::SharedMemory() : mapped_file_(-1), - inode_(0), memory_(NULL), read_only_(false), max_size_(0) { @@ -41,7 +40,6 @@ bool SharedMemory::SetHandle(SharedMemoryHandle handle } mapped_file_ = handle.fd; - inode_ = st.st_ino; read_only_ = read_only; return true; } @@ -155,13 +153,8 @@ bool SharedMemory::CreateOrOpen(const std::wstring &na // It doesn't make sense to have a read-only private piece of shmem DCHECK(posix_flags & (O_RDWR | O_WRONLY)); - FilePath path; - fp = file_util::CreateAndOpenTemporaryShmemFile(&path); - - // Deleting the file prevents anyone else from mapping it in - // (making it private), and prevents the need for cleanup (once - // the last fd is closed, it is truly freed). - file_util::Delete(path); + int fd = shm_open(SHM_ANON, posix_flags, 0600); + fp = fdopen(fd, "a+"); } else { std::wstring mem_filename; if (FilenameForMemoryName(name, &mem_filename) == false) @@ -214,7 +207,6 @@ bool SharedMemory::CreateOrOpen(const std::wstring &na struct stat st; if (fstat(mapped_file_, &st)) NOTREACHED(); - inode_ = st.st_ino; return true; } @@ -224,7 +216,7 @@ bool SharedMemory::Map(size_t bytes) { return false; memory_ = mmap(NULL, bytes, PROT_READ | (read_only_ ? 0 : PROT_WRITE), - MAP_SHARED, mapped_file_, 0); + MAP_SHARED | MAP_NOSYNC, mapped_file_, 0); if (memory_) max_size_ = bytes; --MP_/.qy4G/biVXZ3Cn_fEk4794O-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 21 08:35:16 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8614DDE7888 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C0164CCB for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7402ADE7887; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73994DE7886 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from sender-of-o52.zoho.com (sender-of-o52.zoho.com [135.84.80.217]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3242764CCA for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from mr185083 (mr185083.univ-rennes1.fr [129.20.185.83]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1511253302725612.931382691289; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 00:35:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 09:34:59 +0100 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: top(1) Laundry memory ? Message-ID: <20171121093459.4508a629@mr185083> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ZohoMailClient: External X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:35:16 -0000 Hi, In FreeBSD 11, there is something new in top(1) : laundry memory stats. Ex: Mem: 884M Active, 1330M Inact, 415M Laundry, 5175M Wired, 782M Buf, 84M Free Can someone explain what is this memory please ? man top: Physical Memory Stats Active: number of bytes active Inact: number of clean bytes inactive Laundry: number of dirty bytes queued for laundering Thanks. Regards, From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 21 09:27:06 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B46DDE8BF0 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 09:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay13.qsc.de (mailrelay13.qsc.de [212.99.187.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90A86665C2 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 09:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay13.qsc.de; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 10:26:47 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-48-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.48.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EB783CC3F; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 10:26:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id vAL9QjCr001967; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 10:26:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 10:26:45 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Konstantin Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot problem Message-Id: <20171121102645.5a5d58fd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay13.qsc.de with D7D9C68355F X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1583 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 09:27:06 -0000 On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:54:23 +0300, Konstantin wrote: > I have a problem booting freebsd-box. > It stop working about six months ago. Loading stops at the first stage, the > first 20 seconds I still can reboot the machine through ctrl-alt-del, after > that the keyboard does not work. What exactly is this "first stage"? The actual first stage of (classic BIOS) booting is the MBR / boot manager, second stage is the kernel loader, third stage is the kernel itself, fourth stage is init. :-) Also, please explain the system behaviour: Does it hang (i. e., become fully unresponsive both regarding keyboard input and network access, for example via SSH or telnet), does it crash (and if yes, with which message), or does it suddenly reboot? Does it do this every time or just occassionally? In case your keyboard is a USB keyboard which first runs in some legacy mode (via BIOS), and then using the kernel's ukbd driver: If the kernel didn't recognize your keyboard, its input won't reach anything. Can you check the boot messages for the "ukbd" entry? Six months ago, did you do something "unusual" to your system, like replacing a hardware component or changing the OS software? > I boot the system from the installation flash drive, from the bootloader > command line I do the following > unload > set currdev="disk1p2" > read-conf /boot/loader.conf > boot-conf Does the OS (on the disk) boot correctly, and will it stay responsive after booting this way? Have you tried booting from a 11.0 flash drive and using the kernel from that media (i. e., without the "unload" command)? This way you could rule out a kernel problem. Additionally, when booting from USB flash media, does booting the _whole OS_ from that media stay responsive after booting? Those are at least a few tests you can do. > How I can repair normal booting? This depends on what's actually wrong. The information you provided sadly doesn't help much... > FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p12 That's a fairly current OS version. Is it running a custom kernel? On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:55:04 +0300, Konstantin wrote: > There are no UEFI on the PC - it`s a 8-years old socket 775 platform. And > no optical drive. This shouldn't be a problem, except of course you're experiencing some kind of hardware failure, which is at least possible at such an age, but the age alone doesn't imply it. (My home PC is 10 years old and still working.) > First I want to try repair without reinstall FreeBSD. That would probably be the best thing to do, but without further diagnostics, it's hard to tell what's wrong in your specific case. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 11:07:37 -0000 2017-11-21 12:26 GMT+03:00 Polytropon : > > What exactly is this "first stage"? The actual first stage of > (classic BIOS) booting is the MBR / boot manager, second stage > is the kernel loader, third stage is the kernel itself, fourth > stage is init. :-) > =E2=80=8BIt stop when on screen i see "...FreeBSD bootstrap loader..." > Also, please explain the system behaviour: Does it hang (i. e., > become fully unresponsive both regarding keyboard input and > network access, for example via SSH or telnet), does it > crash (and if yes, with which message), or does it suddenly > reboot? Does it do this every time or just occassionally? =E2=80=8BDue first 15-20 seconds i can reboot PC with ctl-alt-del, so keybo= ard=E2=80=8B is working, but after this time it hang - image on screen froze, keyboard stop working. Only hard-reset or power-off. > In case your keyboard is a USB keyboard which first runs in > some legacy mode (via BIOS), and then using the kernel's ukbd > driver: If the kernel didn't recognize your keyboard, its input > won't reach anything. Can you check the boot messages for the > "ukbd" entry? > > Six months ago, did you do something "unusual" to your system, > like replacing a hardware component or changing the OS software? > =E2=80=8BMaybe some updates via freebsd-update fetch|install, not sure. =E2=80=8B > > I boot the system from the installation flash drive, from the bootloade= r > > command line I do the following > > unload > > set currdev=3D"disk1p2" > > read-conf /boot/loader.conf > > boot-conf > > Does the OS (on the disk) boot correctly, and will it stay > responsive after booting this way? > =E2=80=8B After boot this way system work well about 2-3 month without any problems= =E2=80=8B. I shutdown it myself for cleaning dust. Have you tried booting from a 11.0 flash drive and using the > kernel from that media (i. e., without the "unload" command)? > This way you could rule out a kernel problem. Additionally, > when booting from USB flash media, does booting the _whole OS_ > from that media stay responsive after booting? > =E2=80=8BI do not try boot without "unload", but system boot from USB-flash= and work in normal mode.=E2=80=8B > > FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p12 > > That's a > =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B > fairly current OS version. Is it running a custom kernel? > =E2=80=8BNo, it runs with generic kernel=E2=80=8B On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:55:04 +0300, Konstantin wrote: > > There are no UEFI on the PC - it`s a 8-years old socket 775 platform. A= nd > > no optical drive. > > This shouldn't be a problem, except of course you're experiencing some > kind of hardware failure, which is at least possible at such an age, > but the age alone doesn't imply it. (My home PC is 10 years old and > still working.) =E2=80=8BIt was answer to =E2=80=8BManish Jain, who ask me try run the syst= em without UEFI. 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Mulder" Subject: Best way to set up a build environment in /compat/linux Message-ID: <1a02e783-b99e-fbc5-3809-91b452ab699d@sjmulder.nl> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:49:25 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 11:49:00 -0000 Hi all, With Linux emulation enabled I can successfully run a statically linked Linux binary that I built on an Ubuntu system (with musl libc). I'd like to install the necessary development tools (compilers, libraries, headers, etc) in the Linux compat environment. It appears that linux_base-c6 does not contain a package manager (yum or dnf). 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Cheers, Sijmen From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 21 12:00:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568DDDEC1CD for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay10.qsc.de (mailrelay10.qsc.de [212.99.163.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D514D6B2D5 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 11:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay10.qsc.de; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:59:50 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-48-11.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.48.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D262A3CBF9; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:59:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id vALBxmaO002706; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:59:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:59:48 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Konstantin Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot problem Message-Id: <20171121125948.3a619305.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20171121102645.5a5d58fd.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay10.qsc.de with 3165668345C X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1609 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:00:00 -0000 On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 14:07:34 +0300, Konstantin wrote: > 2017-11-21 12:26 GMT+03:00 Polytropon : > > > > > What exactly is this "first stage"? The actual first stage of > > (classic BIOS) booting is the MBR / boot manager, second stage > > is the kernel loader, third stage is the kernel itself, fourth > > stage is init. :-) > > > > It stop when on screen i see "...FreeBSD bootstrap loader..." That seems to be the kernel loader. A "hanging" at this stage is something very inconvenient, as I assume the kernel won't even be loaded (from what you've described). Or do you get the kernel (white) output already? Compare: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/boot-introduction.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/boot-overview.html > > Also, please explain the system behaviour: Does it hang (i. e., > > become fully unresponsive both regarding keyboard input and > > network access, for example via SSH or telnet), does it > > crash (and if yes, with which message), or does it suddenly > > reboot? Does it do this every time or just occassionally? > > Due first 15-20 seconds i can reboot PC with ctl-alt-del, so keyboard​ is > working, > but after this time it hang - image on screen froze, keyboard stop working. > Only hard-reset or power-off. This is normal. At the pre-kernel stage, the keyboard is still under control of the BIOS. Typically key combinations like Ctrl+Alt+Del will be caught and cause a system reboot - they are not handled by OS-level software yet. When the kernel is in control, this mechanism is inhibited, as the kernel will catch the key combination and perform a clean (!) system shutdown and reboot (if not explicitely configured otherwise). In such a situation, only hardware reset (or power off) will work. If the kernel "froze", there's hardly anything you can do. If your kernel has been configured with the internal debugger enabled, pressing Ctrl+Alt+Esc will drop you into its prompt - which of course is futile in case there isn't any keyboard response... > > In case your keyboard is a USB keyboard which first runs in > > some legacy mode (via BIOS), and then using the kernel's ukbd > > driver: If the kernel didn't recognize your keyboard, its input > > won't reach anything. Can you check the boot messages for the > > "ukbd" entry? > > > > Six months ago, did you do something "unusual" to your system, > > like replacing a hardware component or changing the OS software? > > > > Maybe some updates via freebsd-update fetch|install, not sure. That _might_ have caused it... > > > I boot the system from the installation flash drive, from the bootloader > > > command line I do the following > > > unload > > > set currdev="disk1p2" > > > read-conf /boot/loader.conf > > > boot-conf > > > > Does the OS (on the disk) boot correctly, and will it stay > > responsive after booting this way? > > > ​ > After boot this way system work well about 2-3 month without any problems​. > I shutdown it myself for cleaning dust. Okay, so a hardware failure is unlikely. > > Have you tried booting from a 11.0 flash drive and using the > > kernel from that media (i. e., without the "unload" command)? > > This way you could rule out a kernel problem. Additionally, > > when booting from USB flash media, does booting the _whole OS_ > > from that media stay responsive after booting? > > > > I do not try boot without "unload", but system boot from USB-flash and > work in normal mode.​ Good. > > > FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p12 > > > > That's a > > ​​ > > fairly current OS version. Is it running a custom kernel? > > > > No, it runs with generic kernel​ Another possibility ruled out (misconfigured kernel). > On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:55:04 +0300, Konstantin wrote: > > > There are no UEFI on the PC - it`s a 8-years old socket 775 platform. And > > > no optical drive. > > > > This shouldn't be a problem, except of course you're experiencing some > > kind of hardware failure, which is at least possible at such an age, > > but the age alone doesn't imply it. (My home PC is 10 years old and > > still working.) > > > ​It was answer to ​Manish Jain, who ask me try run the system without UEFI. So additional UEFI problems are out of scope, good. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 21 12:47:46 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7913DEE013 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x231.google.com (mail-io0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D65E6D308 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x231.google.com with SMTP id g73so19261582ioj.8 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 04:47:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=KtU/JJDmtF2/tId0fQ+9S6iS9iR1V5lUbBHQ+fCdXhM=; b=GhiHYPnMnwRTb9/fAVV3r5+E7CNKq9RJQNA2bGiA36M6oRj0G604Z9vSAbISSADcWM rGlOFpJi2bx7mGApPqMwqkQ++6OckK9fLJKalztJNhuKQB5T9UtopUagAcjq2ONB8rxP GoAwGcaBZXHTwghPzzrraHt7/IxhMxwLEvJJClh8cqjcZT4jDtyHRqIkx+BaYHkLcvQz wqFeF56ZIbdLL/LogmFHKMfjAQKLeCTmDZW2eGjlocu13aZpbNbUOVOxmNym+LTdYESn 4Kc+8GU6L8reFLKv4OZlhUW/ls/DzW+tdXOxMcjaA/7D1ILi7pfyMxPhI7zigAKZlHoV Q77g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=KtU/JJDmtF2/tId0fQ+9S6iS9iR1V5lUbBHQ+fCdXhM=; b=h7WrYSfvYKCoPkrD5M7uKVbjkJdFtEqGC6MyWMSBAevzZkihHWw9P2iA41e/LRb1rd zi57g/yOMT6UwijGV4S9M43KZ22FnzB8P2zsSUMdecoC/ZTB8dJ8d77ZXBMdiVpD8TFZ XNxuu7lRT+ROUJCiiV9NGF+IB4eSPK+bsx9jBHwFyL56BUwUIwpkJY3tKX6I7FpSbztX zsHqp1ZBsdL2waa+SkARfjLQuH54lSMbTyRSQBE0WOIKwBAW4NVGqTFgfERSVDucvWRX MHr8BDIkJ5cFbF5QxK1iYxEwgyHb4QE/KinJvlD7oS0lnRer5vnvj04y45bs4xewFEuW GxdQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX4+y/Hun1W/kWmnQ07mW//xwq6HMpe0eaTkLbtQBLt8pyy666Tw Tg8XwDT7kTgdH6DALZqlWc+XuCFxjf1KeAw1axM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMahHMVr+E13XgoMADhIzqyGTsqZaDNMYpmlsHsEMBK6rt+Muk78ePN+Gkix68T4k/S43acD3pMAA+gpwqJhAPY= X-Received: by 10.107.181.215 with SMTP id e206mr17941821iof.98.1511268465528; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 04:47:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.138.114 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 04:47:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Adam Vande More Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 06:47:45 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Moving Drupal created site to web root To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 12:47:46 -0000 On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 4:41 AM, Carmel NY wrote: > This question is really for users of Drupal. The ports system does not > install > Drupal in the web root as suggested by the authors, but into a separate > directory. =E2=80=9C/usr/local/www/drupal8=E2=80=9D. > > I have completed the creation of the site I am working on and now want to > move > it to the web root so it can be accessed via my regular domain name. Usin= g > =E2=80=9Cexample.com=E2=80=9D for instance, I want to access it using htt= p://example.com. > I > cannot find any specific documentation explaining how to accomplish that > under > FreeBSD. I know there must be users here that have done just that, and I > was > wondering how to achieve it. > > Thanks! > "web root" is arbitrary. Set it to your desired location if needed. See your web server documentation. --=20 Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 21 13:46:48 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B951DEF63A for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x230.google.com (mail-ua0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAB236F38E for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x230.google.com with SMTP id z43so8265987uac.7 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 05:46:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=s9X9+mXBr+cmfYXzjgt5w2XZJEA8RCJbYV6Z40swX/E=; b=DPEPScr1vHQ/E6iUxZO6ee5YbLgBrXQw67CIwi7Kg8cUQ3tMMNAmQGyZoTbHK6dBS6 4zq6NoNyxiq0ggKIW6qcTAGHXys1/rsGcJrd9nZJS3QWbj9fKcJ5pFqTCfw3zUinrtxD VUakZiPB9WnEUdBJOqifG2/ud9rGMvHnAxXoTrsxfcbomSquoaMIOjZET4Re30G1Pn/I UPcfw3UkkS4HcGmYkSpjX0Dnmcub1lP2CSCpU3tIybopGOxGBy6rx3YLBz+DdNqS3MP2 Vo6iY/5dkbzWo46ghK9Jnj2tEoTbMP/lztLyEz4sMiiMZbM+AY7MRdJca2tJYt+NdAHI F0oA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=s9X9+mXBr+cmfYXzjgt5w2XZJEA8RCJbYV6Z40swX/E=; b=fPPJEWYKd0gcSvCJys7qWSmJUakIZiIcK/F8yF15RXsuDHzlT3tzIEHjDg0QX8UKOH EG3fciSw+SsCUcYem6r1T2MfdTL1Q1mKtm6XwImBNUFrVm1vtZnoEUDGte+tHVkJcXij wPbzK1hMxfCpXD/Tb0h5bxU7Zjdn/ggkzzIyLP1WvNAtiMonch4VxrUgrhOQB6oPqOYc MO3lUZ6grh2X1Id/OpGF9HhkV17RuMkkOoNYH+pXbGxp/tjvQxNMqbm0j/28MIV8qELk lIcijQT+mcjJYSYkC9MHZQrVtNE+4NwFiZCJgSRs2wc0p4tc3JsozAGsLVM+e9L3KVbM y/tA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX4SDeojQfD9vLxpnaEhhb6zJJp/vBHsSeOvcIPbaKpIt/wg49lT mVcw5gUxXcVkeHkMMrAbFjgKwmdT+UbCR+macVMRgg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbbEw6BBCbKouSX2qGq5UuSkFVEbPVfagF0MFi6JwRmLEa1zbvRnyI5PDtyCnbHZkFLwTPZNcM4lc8pDEiBtA8= X-Received: by 10.176.90.110 with SMTP id m43mr15674712uad.197.1511272006434; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 05:46:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.74.28 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 05:46:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20171118065904.60b2cde8.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20171118065904.60b2cde8.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Alejandro Imass Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:46:46 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Old FreeBSD Downloads To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:46:48 -0000 On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 12:59 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:46:40 -0500, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> The link to http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ >> >> Seems down. Where can I obtain 9.0-RELEASE ? > > Seems to work again (Nov 18 2017, 06:58:27). The download links are: > > http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/9.0-RELEASE/ > > http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/amd64/9.0-RELEASE/ > > http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/ > > http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/ > > In effect it's back up now! Thanks! Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 21 17:21:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B10BDF4912 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 17:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2916476C06 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 17:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 27E23DF4911; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 17:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278D1DF4910 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 17:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x22a.google.com (mail-lf0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A20FF76C01 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 17:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id m1so15009209lfj.9 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 09:21:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=CZk7esTv7jJ+FTbsgM1bFim/PPDau1Zn6hyY7jQgrrs=; b=VMADBW29ka6MVU1I4iFjcxI/CwI1pp/e5aKXnhdtn4vUEylug8gm8tFx0073hzOvXX ZB8XU5sM6IEZIeSpjYUEjB7QYwZyk8CxBpYiUjbFvxM9O0h2Q+k1PaPrclDoG2aJA5X8 mkGQXUX02o4kVtZuOoTugfH15qoNNzVxn6rKet1ni/+grGVfc8QkIWaT682jE5grOTjN 1QIIGE0KRtyFA5Ga6XS5Zbpn/tz6hMWCr0frfvhpsdK2NVHElihNLKc0ap6t6MHs8CNB dcgNYSRPnegstH/BbRGGhkk/l2MrZNP9ZA6ipC9AeLE0EaH1KfDt0q5RqOHlp5/TYsxA PnZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=CZk7esTv7jJ+FTbsgM1bFim/PPDau1Zn6hyY7jQgrrs=; b=dTGg1sYuvktLAwGNSr5mol1IUEsImWis9B3XWALtCLXwMk/LgBq934kXzX+UAvlpUT ns3Q2u1RsOS9XwGo2pu+O4pQfoKA53Lor7sl8ljsY+kizpQSkvAj/D5EnkA2c9xMMmf8 yQ/5LfK4RcL5KBmVf0ehpYNkxmN6FDme5jiTf9RAps7mrWGwm8ZOpoBnVDbtldKKeJv3 6iyAUmtnotKEt7RUCDTshOPTJbRfdUnr/K1lVX05w/m+9NQ1T3Ra3rI+11oCZ/F1FWma cx3x8dyHIOX6xuRIorPovsudrvTptfeFJVjWWBNIQ6pVq9RBq7ia1LkjBkU++ep8vHwZ AgyA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6/zm1XDTy9A2m1ueqhiZVHZEe5sEDcafeaHC9L5SypzYFSW3IH SxcYHWPZtDVwGWD6E1LvvAHGmDXUOfTuvl92+61tNMtk X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZ0DVWlfqMfJp4D0CLIIhPsEVGlK1qMxdokpXjHZO59wd3bnItmt5l+szZzpOqTb01eKreCADpIv6zebn2tk68= X-Received: by 10.46.97.10 with SMTP id v10mr3568077ljb.48.1511284865593; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 09:21:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.42.149 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 09:21:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20171121093459.4508a629@mr185083> References: <20171121093459.4508a629@mr185083> From: pete wright Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 09:21:04 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: top(1) Laundry memory ? To: Patrick Lamaiziere Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 17:21:09 -0000 On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:34 AM, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > Hi, > > In FreeBSD 11, there is something new in top(1) : laundry memory stats. > > Ex: > Mem: 884M Active, 1330M Inact, 415M Laundry, 5175M Wired, 782M Buf, 84M > Free > > Can someone explain what is this memory please ? > > man top: > Physical Memory Stats > Active: > number of bytes active > > Inact: number of clean bytes inactive > > Laundry: > number of dirty bytes queued for laundering > this is probably something that should be added to the FreeBSD memory wiki and/or handbook. My understanding of it comes from this thread: http://freebsd.1045724.x6.nabble.com/PQ-LAUNDRY-td6142103.html "The PQ_LAUNDRY branch adds a new page queue, PQ_LAUNDRY, to store dirty pages that have passed once through the inactive queue." It also references this diff: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D8302 hope this helps! -pete -- pete wright www.nycbug.org @nomadlogicLA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 21 21:40:40 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2BDDB8AE3 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 21:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BD0D813C9 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 21:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F03620B4D for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 16:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from web6 ([10.202.2.216]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 21 Nov 2017 16:40:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=skunkwerks.at; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=ieh+zCsvwekpt7ULOxgrOQ6rMW qaZJD/gJWwnD/Ad0U=; b=I+h/wxuq//P28YZ93Ms3JMsSkiMN0JrQD+YaGGKb4X bU41kENEtikS7RY/LsyFMHt3vpn0U+awrz7oHh5951dY5PDkhHWFkNBFRvZb5xpM HaZqVr47X5l+jQe1jKQbaJMwIbWCemji/qSukL/Cxun6YPaEERet3dKOcjRPwFHM Y= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=ieh+zC svwekpt7ULOxgrOQ6rMWqaZJD/gJWwnD/Ad0U=; b=YxYVafVoYJd17vrWTvHBlY SbgbGzSVFpekFUmgcFp1mWrE4e5r+v1ZZH1Awl42ZOAggaDwycTrjb9ozOCvBMdm NHcB+i8Dfp+rfcb+wOLsxsHZOSCRn4DWW3YHBfmILdr+6gbjYHzr7M1WDwFAm0Dh TtA/bzhNjvvPM3DZf0hDijIQclCD+ZqfUctNKM/yCgbMTMEr7V0LRHX9Ifljdtda 8BQh5eQMydls/i4cjBW53HB0/JmWHDpQAuU6jZQsWMmdG/O80utmqnBYXo5cmgGS BU/gHcOJrskvTdlfns19QOWcjiTLhBpmb2YSTLsGkslpRtyTmYyN6VnuAFWQycbw == X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id F29CF48003; Tue, 21 Nov 2017 16:40:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1511300437.469458.1180306360.267151D0@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Dave Cottlehuber To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-a169161c Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 22:40:37 +0100 References: <20171111093555.a28a5692.freebsd@edvax.de> <23046.62358.213892.447@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <048B96B6-10B3-4F25-93A8-53CB7EDDCBEE@mail.sermon-archive.info> Subject: Re: Upgrade old System In-Reply-To: <048B96B6-10B3-4F25-93A8-53CB7EDDCBEE@mail.sermon-archive.info> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 21:40:40 -0000 On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, at 10:16, Doug Hardie wrote: > I started to sftp the new system down to the server, and it had a > catastrophic hardware failure. There is no recovery from that as it > appears the processor has failed: possibly from over voltage. Its > difficult to troubleshoot from here. The client has decided to obtain a > "new" system, so I will be installing 11.1 from scratch. At least that > what appears to be the current approach. Hopefully I don't have to make > the 4 hour drive each way. maybe you can walk somebody locally through booting up http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ via USB or ISO. It gives you dhcp + ssh login into ramdisk based minimal FreeBSD sufficient to run the installer manually, or even to transfer in a zpool built somewhere else, ready to go. A+ Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 22 18:19:41 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98028DF1EEC for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:19:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x235.google.com (mail-io0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E058639D5 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:19:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x235.google.com with SMTP id q101so24109216ioi.1 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:19:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YRDcQfQjIW67WOfqRAx9ZXvEdPi2pFt52DC/kJUc5ek=; b=FiOhLRfSIzdcrrf3lTcuViKOKdK7qc7uOaJz7PgTlrG4M56RqEpMtRKPAEE6njgyif QHKfMtodhZZaY8smigAHRQ/rUzIwFQQh5x3/athSiKVjJoM+1SHmQm5BTLPn2/llMIre AJ6+E/2it8JUvShCSiv0RFVN5ml6ZNffL0qdInXo5twWcpBozOsOWbqcDiONr53JPVPa 1oVrInjYUPt4QjbdTiS2alYb/5Y8D4xcJ0fiCQclRiFPZhkfdQjx1BzdfeNsenJf+imr /1U1sHoyWTFvpK9bXhegd6eA7idpY+st0oowvOGRklcnJmUeZm9byV5pHomWV1FLftRG Fssw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YRDcQfQjIW67WOfqRAx9ZXvEdPi2pFt52DC/kJUc5ek=; b=VLLAVOhhNf4MxY7uJHi5xUJitFG2yETIgzA4d3S3ctQsdIYZGNQzs5yWg+kD5WwQbN sfj7o+MJCuQEIuPOWmOao2yef4gJxcFHRW9n4nRFJGMPjME1yDg95tqGdqtH7DoOtT2V YqCWVG12s/B1mcFryZRdIRdHVFxQMH8zGpG5MFujqbnaizDTdNHiUgDMIr8GjdHdwvs7 aSyBxm9BLpRD6+Q0xlmQJl30o+hg8Db9TezHNxZ5wdIZebS2uvlPRqOf3DGJXrXEgSPx DMpKpTff9uAdjT97MvQLGQjrNM59bXE/Z1RArBSvRAnXx+on9FedaGkxi5LLJ+GyMwop VBwQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6HYWI0RSZgxVdwk4r9K9XtORToNZqoG5ubUI7W4ipT/p9xgMcW beV0n2Ud8hnV2FfhQtehIok21g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMYkmbrhLlY2HfQ81Bu/KIGYTRthgQZ1OGWIJ1Gb+kxL0tZvvUC4V6kMS2+43X/eRmEEi7bmCQ== X-Received: by 10.107.185.197 with SMTP id j188mr24715115iof.221.1511374780590; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:19:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.10.7] (cpe-65-25-48-36.neo.res.rr.com. [65.25.48.36]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id h187sm3945266ioe.17.2017.11.22.10.19.39 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:19:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5A15BFBB.6010908@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 13:19:39 -0500 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: inquire to 11.0 & 11.1 users Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:19:41 -0000 Hello all 11.x users. I would like to inquiry if your seeing this message set in your /var/log/messages file happening at random times during the day? kernel: Interface: watchdog timeout kernel: Interface: link state changed to down kernel: Interface: link state changed to up The Interface being the one connected to your ISP. I am getting this interface hardware hand shake error messages a few times an hour to a few times a day. Totally random. The server can be at total idle and it still happens. The watchdog timeout is a interface hardware hand shake error and the interface down/up is how the watchdog recovers from this error. I have gotten this error message group running 11.0 and 11.1 on a amd64 system and on i386 system, gigabit interfaces em0 and vge0, and 10/100 interface rl0 and xl0. Also with 2 different modems, a gigabit modem and a 10/100 modem. The gigabit modem has an admin system with an event log and there has never been a event logged of any kind. When this watchdog error happens and I am watching a streamed movie on my windows10 pc attached to the LAN the connection is lost to the streaming server and I have to login in again and start at beginning of movie. But the real problem is what this watchdog reset does to any aliases attached to that interface. Before the reset the first inet on the interface is the ISP issued IP address followed by what ever number of aliases I may have added. After the watchdog reset the first inet is now the first alias and the ISP IP is the last inet in the list. This causes the internet connection to vanish. I have to reboot or manually remove all the aliases so the ISP IP address inet is the only thing remaining on the interface and then the internet connection is restored at which time I have to re-add all the aliases again. This alias re-order problem is a strong indicator that this a kernel software problem. This post is just am attempt to see how wide spread this is. So please take the time to review your logs as you may be unaware this is happening to you. Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 22 18:39:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DED4DF25F8 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from smtp206.alice.it (smtp206.alice.it [82.57.200.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65536458C for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (80.182.75.25) by smtp206.alice.it (8.6.060.28) id 5A0BFCB8016DEF76 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 19:33:52 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id vAMIXpFD035218 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 19:33:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.ventu: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: Build a debug pkg with poudriere Message-ID: <6654e456-5fb3-327d-6746-735d58ebb140@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 19:33:46 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:39:26 -0000 Hello. Is there any way to achieve this? I'd like to create some packages with debug symbols, so they can be debugged on the machine where they will be installed, but found no documentation about that. bye & Thanks av. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 22 23:28:31 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD59DF8011 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 23:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=10z0=cu=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: from mail.sermon-archive.info (sermon-archive.info [71.177.216.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654796E60C for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 23:28:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=10z0=cu=mail.sermon-archive.info=doug@sermon-archive.info) Received: from [10.0.1.251] (mini [10.0.1.251]) by mail.sermon-archive.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3yhzCr4mbLz2fjVr; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:28:24 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: inquire to 11.0 & 11.1 users From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <5A15BFBB.6010908@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:28:24 -0800 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3BCA2A2F-05B6-431E-BDB8-092D2C924C06@mail.sermon-archive.info> References: <5A15BFBB.6010908@gmail.com> To: Ernie Luzar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 23:28:31 -0000 -- Doug > On 22 November 2017, at 10:19, Ernie Luzar wrote: >=20 > Hello all 11.x users. >=20 > I would like to inquiry if your seeing this message set in your > /var/log/messages file happening at random times during the day? >=20 > kernel: Interface: watchdog timeout > kernel: Interface: link state changed to down > kernel: Interface: link state changed to up >=20 > The Interface being the one connected to your ISP. >=20 I just checked 3 servers and there were no such errors during the last = week on any of them. 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[65.25.48.36]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 139sm2870178itm.2.2017.11.23.06.22.33 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Nov 2017 06:22:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5A16D9A8.3080303@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 09:22:32 -0500 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Network interface status: command Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 14:22:35 -0000 In the daily run status report I see a "Network interface status:" display. What console command is generating it? 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[71.178.8.115]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p74sm12936582qkl.22.2017.11.23.06.37.51 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Nov 2017 06:37:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Network interface status: command To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5A16D9A8.3080303@gmail.com> From: zep Message-ID: <4244add0-e809-7de6-2438-62447e49ba4f@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 09:37:50 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5A16D9A8.3080303@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 14:37:55 -0000 On 11/23/2017 09:22 AM, Ernie Luzar wrote: > In the daily run status report I see a "Network interface status:" > display. > > What console command is generating it? > tl;dr -- netstat with a couple options i & d. I'd never really noticed it; it probably would be helpful to put the output just to make sure things are lining up, and rather than just hand you what I think is going on, this seems like a good time to teach people what little I know of fishing. if the email you're seeing is part of a daily run, it's set by the system and not something you put in as root user (you can do crontab -l as root to verify it's not there), then there's the system cron file in /etc/crontab # Perform daily/weekly/monthly maintenance. 1    3    *    *    *    root    periodic daily 15    4    *    *    6    root    periodic weekly 30    5    1    *    *    root    periodic monthly that seems like a pretty good suspect, man on 'periodic'  -      If an argument is an absolute directory name it is used as is, otherwise      it is searched for under /etc/periodic and any other directories speci-      fied by the local_periodic setting in periodic.conf(5) (see below). check the directories root@nexus:/etc/periodic/daily # ls 100.clean-disks        330.news        440.status-mailq 110.clean-tmps        400.status-disks    450.status-security 120.clean-preserve    401.status-graid    460.status-mail-rejects 130.clean-msgs        404.status-zfs        480.leapfile-ntpd 140.clean-rwho        406.status-gmirror    480.status-ntpd 150.clean-hoststat    407.status-graid3    500.queuerun 200.backup-passwd    408.status-gstripe    510.status-world-kernel 210.backup-aliases    409.status-gconcat    800.scrub-zfs 300.calendar        420.status-network    999.local 310.accounting        430.status-rwho that 420.status-network seems like a good candidate root@nexus:/etc/periodic/daily # sh -x 420.status-network ... + echo 'Network interface status:' Network interface status: + flags=-d + netstat -i -d Name    Mtu Network       Address              Ipkts Ierrs Idrop    Opkts Oerrs  Coll  Drop em0    1500       XXX  22874340     0     0   574773     0     0     0 em0       - 192.168.XX.0/ nexus              1172609     -     -   540898     -     -     - lo0   16384                             3749     0     0     3749     0     0     0 lo0       - localhost     ::1                      0     -     -        0     -     -     - lo0       - fe80::1%lo0   fe80::1%lo0              0     -     -        0     -     -     - lo0       - your-net      localhost             3749     -     -     3749     -     -     - + rc=0 and I think you'd find that's a decent match for what you get in your email. ... -- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 23 14:48:35 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592F4DEEABE for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 14:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x243.google.com (mail-it0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 164266E28A for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 14:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x243.google.com with SMTP id n134so10523164itg.3 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 06:48:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=niyoVVrkCnZtHySN9SNa70Bo/OYxr8rAsawwwnDT+SQ=; b=XymWBbUHKaDg/CiXLy0pX06f4e88O046fQgc2APZ5cHAM336v9z4KIlZsTLiJyTrqu Y6guzSPdx5oQIEPqdvgIIKcSUgmKGNVJkUr+xm72wxdFqevP6KA13Mx1p++uB9eZxr/e MDK1vBivQvzDsdnU2U5YzAExRxpWBnVoUqVp4RJeDAL7FRSJc8pSxJzYnAO13L4Uz4hP h+k8DyrayPHva6xNJX5GnfGa5P9A0/xFsOB8cNBBvbBSOEso+4+y2Dd/ZWCoICUT0y3i q52S7Hzq/F8IzpIDIihLFpskIiKLJE47pJ8o7A7ljG+8pDVfSku0djxZT35wPhTWYqen u5Ow== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=niyoVVrkCnZtHySN9SNa70Bo/OYxr8rAsawwwnDT+SQ=; b=rWlYlMisp239MtUACTLVzifSeYt7Rxje5fBFMQjmegjFsP8+LuRsd0zN3z6y3MRMWI DHKSnJqs5Qkq8lqJHZNGljl/7l5OHcGnsAATrmhKsTvl6YCUPbBxRTbOAygWAQQ4Gapq ZWZV1+VjW/LXOcJWTvmSlwtkIae/EN+RulWiO7G0eCv7ZymkDhc2+skmC+oNshpiwLCV je5g7ISMw9mwJRgqAUPR+Pee+3eYxoKNpbKpm2L/Rbt6MiV6E+fBJyxZKbyWrJQiibwz trn5ah2/1SXLfRoU2P/rSwz43bZMcbnrwn687Xi3ImWyggZOfjgAIwW5dInPKL+m8p8W 8tAw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX5A0HIkp9ypgDRDxpkaGBpcNEJubpLprGJgzA8brBHQIwcm/HDn O85yAp4XuPLTg3SWRNVU5P5Ghg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbQh21RJs9ABrnajrTT5JtaJybwP21mFERNCBHfpMPLUvwA/ua/sSgFhk8aMEJ7YA7AiByLQw== X-Received: by 10.36.36.211 with SMTP id f202mr12338763ita.117.1511448514452; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 06:48:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.10.7] (cpe-65-25-48-36.neo.res.rr.com. [65.25.48.36]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id e142sm3344321ite.28.2017.11.23.06.48.33 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Nov 2017 06:48:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5A16DFC1.6050406@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 09:48:33 -0500 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: zep CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network interface status: command References: <5A16D9A8.3080303@gmail.com> <4244add0-e809-7de6-2438-62447e49ba4f@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4244add0-e809-7de6-2438-62447e49ba4f@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 14:48:35 -0000 zep wrote: > On 11/23/2017 09:22 AM, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> In the daily run status report I see a "Network interface status:" >> display. >> >> What console command is generating it? >> > tl;dr -- netstat with a couple options i & d. > > I'd never really noticed it; it probably would be helpful to put the > output just to make sure things are lining up, and rather than just hand > you what I think is going on, this seems like a good time to teach > people what little I know of fishing. > if the email you're seeing is part of a daily run, it's set by the > system and not something you put in as root user (you can do crontab -l > as root to verify it's not there), then there's the system cron file in > /etc/crontab > > # Perform daily/weekly/monthly maintenance. > 1 3 * * * root periodic daily > 15 4 * * 6 root periodic weekly > 30 5 1 * * root periodic monthly > > that seems like a pretty good suspect, man on 'periodic' - > > If an argument is an absolute directory name it is used as is, > otherwise > it is searched for under /etc/periodic and any other directories speci- > fied by the local_periodic setting in periodic.conf(5) (see below). > > check the directories > > root@nexus:/etc/periodic/daily # ls > 100.clean-disks 330.news 440.status-mailq > 110.clean-tmps 400.status-disks 450.status-security > 120.clean-preserve 401.status-graid 460.status-mail-rejects > 130.clean-msgs 404.status-zfs 480.leapfile-ntpd > 140.clean-rwho 406.status-gmirror 480.status-ntpd > 150.clean-hoststat 407.status-graid3 500.queuerun > 200.backup-passwd 408.status-gstripe 510.status-world-kernel > 210.backup-aliases 409.status-gconcat 800.scrub-zfs > 300.calendar 420.status-network 999.local > 310.accounting 430.status-rwho > > that 420.status-network seems like a good candidate > > root@nexus:/etc/periodic/daily # sh -x 420.status-network > > ... > > + echo 'Network interface status:' > Network interface status: > + flags=-d > + netstat -i -d > Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Idrop > Opkts Oerrs Coll Drop > em0 1500 XXX 22874340 0 0 574773 0 > 0 0 > em0 - 192.168.XX.0/ nexus 1172609 - - > 540898 - - - > lo0 16384 3749 0 0 > 3749 0 0 0 > lo0 - localhost ::1 0 - - > 0 - - - > lo0 - fe80::1%lo0 fe80::1%lo0 0 - - > 0 - - - > lo0 - your-net localhost 3749 - - > 3749 - - - > + rc=0 > > and I think you'd find that's a decent match for what you get in your email. > > ... > > Thank you for the info. netstat -i -d is what I was looking for. 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[65.25.48.36]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id e68sm6476504ite.0.2017.11.23.07.10.14 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Nov 2017 07:10:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5A16E4D6.3000009@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:10:14 -0500 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Interpreting netstat output Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:10:16 -0000 I keep seeing this in the periodic daily output. During the day I issue netstat -id command and I see the number of Oerrs increase on the vge0 interface. Network interface status: Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Idrop Opkts Oerrs em0 1500 xxxxxx 430877 0 0 767138 0 em0 - 10.0.0.0/8 xxxxxx 5625 - - 5745 - vge0 1500 xxxxxx 2553560 0 0 434774 7 vge0 - 25.85.45.0/20 xxxxxx 1368 - - 1200 - What does this Out errors count really mean and what should I be doing about it? 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[71.178.8.115]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x189sm8304636qka.36.2017.11.23.16.40.33 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Nov 2017 16:40:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Interpreting netstat output To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5A16E4D6.3000009@gmail.com> From: zep Message-ID: <23db8689-cfdb-4176-792b-95e062946121@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 19:40:32 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5A16E4D6.3000009@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 00:40:37 -0000 On 11/23/2017 10:10 AM, Ernie Luzar wrote: > > I keep seeing this in the periodic daily output. > During the day I issue netstat -id command and I see the number of > Oerrs  increase on the vge0 interface. > > Network interface status: > Name    Mtu Network       Address Ipkts  Ierrs Idrop Opkts  Oerrs > em0    1500       xxxxxx  430877 0     0     767138  0 > em0       - 10.0.0.0/8    xxxxxx    5625 -     -       5745  - > vge0   1500       xxxxxx 2553560 0     0     434774  7 > vge0      - 25.85.45.0/20 xxxxxx    1368 -     -     1200    - > > > What does this Out errors count really mean and what should I be doing > about it? > _______________________________________________ > from the netstat manpage BUGS      The notion of errors is ill-defined. FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p1        December 1, 2015        FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p1 I'd guess you could get an error from something as benign as a collision or anything else that forces a retransmit  by my math this is on the order of .001610031% of your traffic.  with that low of a total count and percentage, I wouldn't think it makes much sense to chase down much farther unless you have a specific issue you're trying to work through. -- public gpg key id: 0x5B8147CB From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 24 04:51:29 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1297DB995C for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2017 04:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66B01657AD for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2017 04:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id vAO4Snfq051938; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 23:28:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from support@safeport.com) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 23:28:49 -0500 (EST) From: DTD To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: stuck duel booting win-10 and FreeBSD 10.3 [solved] Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Thu, 23 Nov 2017 23:28:49 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 04:51:29 -0000 With a lot of help from friends First I gave up on 10.3. The problem IN 10.3 was I could not mount the FreeBSD partition created by install, getting: root@:~ # mount /dev/ada0p10 /mnt mount: /dev/ada0p10: Invalid argument As I did this tree times with the same result and I have been using FreeBSD on laptops since 4.5 I'm thinking there is better than an even chance I did not make the same mistake three times. As far as I could tell install I never had a problem. It just did not make the system bootable. Eventually I was pointed to commands that verified that [at least] the first part of the FreeBSD partition was corrupted. At that point I gave up on 10.3 and installed 11.1 The 11.1 install went fine and I could mount the partitions from the install shell. So how to get it to boot was the only issue. First I had to disable secure boot. I used the usb image for 11.1, a blessing as that boots about as fast as from disk. From the EFI wiki (I think) I found the following link: http://kev009.com/wp/2016/07/freebsd-uefi-root-on-zfs-and-windows-dual-boot/ The part about installing zfs is not relavent (unless you want it) the latter instructions given below work. At the end or this process I still could not boot FreeBSD, coming the the statement that "You should be greeted by refind, otherwise take a look through your firmware boot order and make sure the firmware nvram for Windows Bootmanager isn't first." Here I used EasyUEFI to list and reorder the UFI boot entries putting the disk entry before the windows one. That did it. I never found anything in the Lenovo BIOS that would do this. The instructions for installing rEFInd follow: 1. disable secure boot (necessary for me on Lenovo) 2. Install refind cd /tmp unzip refind-bin-0.10.3.zip rm refind-bin-0.10.3.zip mkdir /tmp/efi mount_msdosfs /dev/gpt/EFI%20system%20partition /tmp/efi/ cd /tmp/efi/EFI/Boot mv bootx64.efi bootx64-windows-10.efi cp /boot/boot1.efi bootx64-freebsd.efi cp -a /tmp/refind-bin-0.10.3/refind/icons . cp -a /tmp/refind-bin-0.10.3/refind/refind_x64.efi bootx64.efi cp /tmp/refind-bin-0.10.3/refind/refind.conf-sample refind.conf 3. Configure refind and add menu entries Configure refind and add menu entries cat << EOF >> refind.conf menuentry "FreeBSD/amd64 -CURRENT" { loader \EFI\Boot\bootx64-freebsd.efi icon \EFI\Boot\icons\os_freebsd.png } menuentry "Windows 10 Professional x64" { loader \EFI\Boot\bootx64-windows-10.efi icon \EFI\Boot\icons\os_win.png } EOF 4. Finish, reboot and enjoy! cd umount /tmp/efi reboot For me step four just rebooted windows. I used EasyUEFI as noted above. I had previously installed that trying to install rEFInd from the windows side. I never got that to work. If you want windows 10 + FreeBSD, I think this is the way to install rEFInd. This has the added advantage of being able to boot almost any combinations of operating systems. This procedure only works with windows 10 as I do not know how to reorder the UFI boot entries. I lucked out that EasyUEFI did this for me. That missing piece would be most useful. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com support@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 24 19:00:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838C6DEE7B3 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2017 19:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629697FD36 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2017 19:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F06816AD20; Fri, 24 Nov 2017 19:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id vAOJ00D7029648; Fri, 24 Nov 2017 14:00:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id vAOJ00Db029645; Fri, 24 Nov 2017 14:00:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 14:00:00 -0500 (EST) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: Ernie Luzar cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: local_unbound disable trusted-anchor In-Reply-To: <59EF2E9D.2060408@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <59EF2E9D.2060408@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 24 Nov 2017 14:00:01 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 19:00:08 -0000 On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, Ernie Luzar wrote: > How can I stop local_unbound from automatically performing trusted anchor at > local_unbound start? Read the thread "Unbound(8) caching resolver no workie on ..." valuable stuff here. Answered why I had to do the following. Comment out auto-trust-anchor-file: /var/unbound/root.key in unbound.conf. 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[65.25.48.36]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id i133sm7480528itf.1.2017.11.24.13.34.15 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Nov 2017 13:34:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5A189058.30500@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 16:34:16 -0500 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doug@safeport.com CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: local_unbound disable trusted-anchor References: <59EF2E9D.2060408@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 21:34:17 -0000 doug wrote: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, Ernie Luzar wrote: > >> How can I stop local_unbound from automatically performing trusted >> anchor at local_unbound start? > > Read the thread "Unbound(8) caching resolver no workie on ..." valuable > stuff here. Answered why I had to do the following. Comment out > > auto-trust-anchor-file: /var/unbound/root.key > > in unbound.conf. > Yes I followed that thread when it was current on the questions list. I took a different path to working around stopping the trust-anchor auto fetch at start time. For security reasons I will not allow any daemon call home for any reason. Its just to easy for that secdns fetch to become compromised and all of a sudden all unbound users are compromised. They added secdns to close some large holes in dns services and ended up adding a far more centralized security hole. secdns needs more time to work out the design problems to become better secured before I an willing to get in bed with it. So I turned off the auto secdns fetch all together and run unbound without it just fine. It came to my attention that the version of unbound used by release 11.1 local_unbound was 3 versions behind what was provided in the port version of unbound. So I pkg installed unbound and then hacked the rc.d unbound script commenting out the code that did the actual fetch of the trust-anchor file content. Then I installed the dns2blackhole port and followed the great detailed instructions for populating unbound with a file containing known bad domain names so unbound will block those dns look ups thus protecting the host unbound runs on and all LAN devices hard wired or wifi connected behind that host. dns2blackhole man page has a lot of info on customizing unbound and local_unbound, so it's worth it to just install it for its man page. I also have ntpd launched at boot time and it does complain about being unable to resolve it's domain name until unbound completes it's start up. This is a simple timing thing between ntpd and unbound that resolves itself and only creates 2 warning messages in the system log which I understand and ignore. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 24 21:46:08 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AC1DF24BB for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2017 21:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7C5C65D1F for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2017 21:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id vAOLk5Fr080341; Fri, 24 Nov 2017 16:46:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 16:46:05 -0500 (EST) From: DTD To: Ernie Luzar cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: local_unbound disable trusted-anchor In-Reply-To: <5A189058.30500@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <59EF2E9D.2060408@gmail.com> <5A189058.30500@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Fri, 24 Nov 2017 16:46:06 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 21:46:08 -0000 On Fri, 24 Nov 2017, Ernie Luzar wrote: > doug wrote: >> On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, Ernie Luzar wrote: >> >>> How can I stop local_unbound from automatically performing trusted anchor >>> at local_unbound start? >> >> Read the thread "Unbound(8) caching resolver no workie on ..." valuable >> stuff here. Answered why I had to do the following. Comment out >> >> auto-trust-anchor-file: /var/unbound/root.key >> >> in unbound.conf. >> > > Yes I followed that thread when it was current on the questions list. > > I took a different path to working around stopping the trust-anchor auto > fetch at start time. > > For security reasons I will not allow any daemon call home for any reason. > Its just to easy for that secdns fetch to become compromised and all of a > sudden all unbound users are compromised. They added secdns to close some > large holes in dns services and ended up adding a far more centralized > security hole. secdns needs more time to work out the design problems to > become better secured before I an willing to get in bed with it. So I turned > off the auto secdns fetch all together and run unbound without it just fine. > > It came to my attention that the version of unbound used by release 11.1 > local_unbound was 3 versions behind what was provided in the port version of > unbound. So I pkg installed unbound and then hacked the rc.d unbound script > commenting out the code that did the actual fetch of the trust-anchor file > content. > > Then I installed the dns2blackhole port and followed the great detailed > instructions for populating unbound with a file containing known bad domain > names so unbound will block those dns look ups thus protecting the host > unbound runs on and all LAN devices hard wired or wifi connected behind that > host. > > dns2blackhole man page has a lot of info on customizing unbound and > local_unbound, so it's worth it to just install it for its man page. > > I also have ntpd launched at boot time and it does complain about being > unable to resolve it's domain name until unbound completes it's start up. > This is a simple timing thing between ntpd and unbound that resolves itself > and only creates 2 warning messages in the system log which I understand and > ignore. Thanks for the reply and thoughts. I am trying to work through the security issues raised in the thread and your reply. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 25 03:54:38 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A416DFDA72 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 03:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elof.huang@runbox.com) Received: from aibo.runbox.com (aibo.runbox.com [91.220.196.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2525A71F36 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 03:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elof.huang@runbox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=runbox.com; s=rbselector1; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To; bh=A2MJS4i6AFAdg9AxbPsfyzQdYtfL3S2/KtVVAf9i16w=; b=RzNCQo+IoGDsRTqo4YXXxUnF+w01Pb8BXO2A6sZ9G3ZrfANgyrCihNDjg2YsO63vrfndxbj6Pw I43XdZxSdawutTOQ0ejevFDmy4PPQI68KHbczGG4WN/JIHUMpVA0yMQKNR6ehc7wSeLmDTvonxPag dFqwcnsIBckt0mUcvGlAJHIgC/tKa4vFXHSif0/u35ZvWOVtEu3BBB7543oeAjmYzgdeVM+7DEPCw Fgq3UFMjApsdpq2+XBScY7cRp2qQ2PF2uaEjzhUEcRvAfS9W7Xy1DF5skd2HnHak1IKQ1W/fLmhBx P7OIrKs1sucT9IMHxTky3n6RQ0goTQK+kQWww==; Received: from [10.9.9.212] (helo=mailfront12.runbox.com) by mailtransmit02.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eIRXw-0001IN-I2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 04:54:28 +0100 Received: from 114-25-202-137.dynamic-ip.hinet.net ([114.25.202.137] helo=[192.168.1.105]) by mailfront12.runbox.com with esmtpsa (uid:903425 ) (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) id 1eIRXq-0001J4-7k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 04:54:22 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Elof Huang Subject: What is the difference between online handbook and physical copies? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:54:17 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 03:54:38 -0000 Hello, I am new to FreeBSD, why does the mall have several different FreeBSD  books, but there is only one handbook on the site? Do the physical books cover extra contents? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 25 05:26:06 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8559DDB8F0D for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 05:26:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16586755B1 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 05:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp121-45-11-215.bras1.adl4.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([121.45.11.215]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 25 Nov 2017 15:50:54 +1030 Subject: Re: What is the difference between online handbook and physical copies? To: Elof Huang , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: <24eaf387-a3cd-2b11-3dde-ccfc5cb89d48@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:50:52 +1030 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-AU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 05:26:06 -0000 On 25/11/2017 14:24, Elof Huang wrote: > Hello, I am new to FreeBSD, why does the mall have several different > FreeBSD  books, but there is only one handbook on the site? Do the > physical books cover extra contents? freebsdmall.com is not an official FreeBSD store, it is run by users to help other users and to help the project by giving back profits from the sales. At freebsdmall.com there is an old copy of part of the FreeBSD Handbook. This book (both vols combined) is a printed version of the official FreeBSD Handbook available at FreeBSD.org - just an older version than what is on the site today. The FreeBSD Mastery books are written by Michael W Lucas, while he is a BSD user and his books are highly recommended, they are not official documentation from any of the BSD projects. He has other titles available on his site - tiltedwindmillpress.com Each of these books gives advanced information on one specific topic, like ssh or zfs but they don't cover an entire system in one book. The BSD magazine is another third party publication that is originally from bsdmag.org freebsdfoundation.org/journal is an official magazine from the FreeBSD Foundation. -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 25 05:54:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42693DB9784 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 05:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elof.huang@runbox.com) Received: from aibo.runbox.com (aibo.runbox.com [91.220.196.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1243760A2 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 05:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elof.huang@runbox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=runbox.com; s=rbselector1; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject; bh=TEhN9ixbQFmcURgpq95we11GFsxCHqKKGx+dykTJHJo=; b=TurVQ8RVDNBHilZOhB9trr6ylc JwYQYAtVo4XaUI25TxqxODy1596xsTVoW4o4JUtVv/CDvGDYBwBYrnRu9HSpvThWY1ZlBQ04gCmQJ B4n9DXGD+tU3s7Ox7Q6XJzB7CLjbdYQJ5h7QdcsoJFsuohKbFrOrimDBGYWL7YeYU2odv3CmOgtqV 2f8gKWgZTQaPiWMOfUb+/SSZyO68Az2K8SAsfz4K8KsFjLxPNdMjPfe4phlAZrZktSlcUiBGwoXYc 307gTTJnZ33w4LeZNldjUzrAIsbYBUk1wuN/YDNs3UDUYtRW+EvozL6BDl+aNY1gXUtjk4DSl/iNn OqOdmS4g==; Received: from [10.9.9.212] (helo=mailfront12.runbox.com) by mailtransmit03.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eITQL-0008MI-95 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 06:54:45 +0100 Received: from 114-25-202-137.dynamic-ip.hinet.net ([114.25.202.137] helo=[192.168.1.105]) by mailfront12.runbox.com with esmtpsa (uid:903425 ) (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) id 1eITQ2-0003GD-E2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 06:54:27 +0100 Subject: Re: What is the difference between online handbook and physical copies? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <24eaf387-a3cd-2b11-3dde-ccfc5cb89d48@ShaneWare.Biz> From: Elof Huang Message-ID: <52fb95b6-03ed-d370-55c9-0573bd42d8bb@runbox.com> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 13:54:20 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <24eaf387-a3cd-2b11-3dde-ccfc5cb89d48@ShaneWare.Biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 05:54:49 -0000 The *Official* handbook on the project site has already covered everything? On 11/25/2017 01:20 PM, Shane Ambler wrote: > On 25/11/2017 14:24, Elof Huang wrote: >> Hello, I am new to FreeBSD, why does the mall have several different >> FreeBSD  books, but there is only one handbook on the site? Do the >> physical books cover extra contents? > freebsdmall.com is not an official FreeBSD store, it is run by users to > help other users and to help the project by giving back profits from the > sales. > > At freebsdmall.com there is an old copy of part of the FreeBSD Handbook. > This book (both vols combined) is a printed version of the official > FreeBSD Handbook available at FreeBSD.org - just an older version than > what is on the site today. > > The FreeBSD Mastery books are written by Michael W Lucas, while he is a > BSD user and his books are highly recommended, they are not official > documentation from any of the BSD projects. He has other titles > available on his site - tiltedwindmillpress.com Each of these books > gives advanced information on one specific topic, like ssh or zfs but > they don't cover an entire system in one book. > > The BSD magazine is another third party publication that is originally > from bsdmag.org > > freebsdfoundation.org/journal is an official magazine from the FreeBSD > Foundation. > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 25 13:58:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB87DE643D for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 13:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com) Received: from out1-5.antispamcloud.com (out1-5.antispamcloud.com [185.201.16.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E0081AEA for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 13:58:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com) Received: from [153.92.8.106] (helo=srv31.niagahoster.com) by mx26.antispamcloud.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eIVoY-0003ky-Hf; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 09:27:55 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sumeritec.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=E8+JbKpTu5NkmbUwOlcmJV139bI+mQCe/+QT9vi0/t0=; b=bAof+HXNcUSgjbB8V7y6Tij0Wu 08S8w5H4Hg1IWXql2peJ1JUu24s1hGU6VmC5Fcstg743chYDZrKnG5PwE5CWNc5A8cLCIo825yc9J E2cvbmDxy78vniXqiEKCEfGJ6RGRVpvx8xpqCXw99L97su9spHEuhoJLT40aPja9uspjKJUr1RgpG au9wdfNVJjA09R3voplQnNE+0jUOGCzM9dp94wznVvwlMkkYKF1JfIYXwpiuXImp8zjC0vuaRknHc q+sQDaeRhLuHECW6Pin+dClygEDMchGaW+4Fi3kXwGsHjBndLrR9AP+x7x9UWU9nCz+RNnVpM7snw Ew/pa2kQ==; Received: from [114.125.119.111] (port=60893 helo=X220.sumeritec.com) by srv31.niagahoster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eIVnn-00018h-E0; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:27:07 +0700 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 16:27:01 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Elof Huang Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the difference between online handbook and physical copies? 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Using the handbook in connection with man is in my opinion the best option. For the rest, just ask on one of the mailing lists. When I moved back to BSD years ago, I went to my local bookshop and bought some of the books available there. This has had the advantage for me that the authors used their own language describing features of FreeBSD. The handbook is some times very abstract making it difficult for beginners. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 25 14:39:04 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B804DE6FA8 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 14:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elof.huang@runbox.com) Received: from aibo.runbox.com (aibo.runbox.com [91.220.196.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0594A2D0E for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 14:39:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elof.huang@runbox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=runbox.com; s=rbselector1; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject; bh=gCP37GR340/azxMEi5yQB4AUXgBUaS2NQYjrfA+PyNU=; b=V+So4O2IWsW/dcCDeGi6lpUyZO gdjssZFcqjEQGJ07O+xdtxqKeXFaUzgkKOTbK6aBXydt3nR+wOSsPslwxmrLsodvpht2Hoou8R2uA hhNG4ag6ydoWq5ZKFSQKY6YlXwQ6NNuvYmr+3qg9XFk9W0nfAs+m8+/YxA/P7FGtUaE6qDV4/+Yrh wug6jr1d3w2Hn1LRcXsmQP4+6D3RA2b2cP+iWAg/BjBw6Lg8YgCsQpdqfdJXa20XtnggvWZIKwt4I PWOnjmXSc5NzN4TXv8x/zQ1+Hun5XXFK/7Oia7yr2OdryueG36jykuggiLQx/WwzkJWazjQuge6dl OgDAElcQ==; Received: from [10.9.9.210] (helo=mailfront10.runbox.com) by mailtransmit03.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eIbbf-0000B1-V1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:39:00 +0100 Received: from 114-25-202-137.dynamic-ip.hinet.net ([114.25.202.137] helo=[192.168.1.105]) by mailfront10.runbox.com with esmtpsa (uid:903425 ) (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) id 1eIbbS-0006h8-N4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:38:47 +0100 Subject: how to read the installed manual? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <24eaf387-a3cd-2b11-3dde-ccfc5cb89d48@ShaneWare.Biz> <52fb95b6-03ed-d370-55c9-0573bd42d8bb@runbox.com> <20171125162626.2f94a502.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> From: Elof Huang Message-ID: <777705e9-771e-984f-f81d-4b499a691b9c@runbox.com> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 22:38:40 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171125162626.2f94a502.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 14:39:04 -0000 Documentation is provided to install during the installation, how would I read it? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 25 14:52:57 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C68DE776E for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 14:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic309-24.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic309-24.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.179.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A71FC38EE for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 14:52:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: HCIORJQVM1looTy7qXPZOim3W8ccYKmzVAbIwGC7gclQtX.fg3H0x1lkRj2FIrL PUKZeRw7X37GdYcjib4.HrwaDfLqY92VwaTOHhV7u47dwFKxfMbXtmrOfw80bxxdFa8x9A_EuoKO sUBGgGtLwHMgqFXUdelJTsA17VxZ9QG6JdpfeVkIZT.yMv2Iiarko_qpMdYaeH76eomd7arxpthg RIUSoBhOgiXFsiffvsvC4GAEk9Oqhw3Bo..THqCMTdCMO1AwitpL_6HjU_.RYQPX9hxhhoHhw.F0 WLKwwxDUh50a9gA73eto7CtGTDJoNZH8yPP_rga5XqcfV_RTYoztCFV922gqdIy54oy1kgLnbADu UhoHbQ_NSEAiP5Xgx6I3FIPsFosdlaZsNSZGaH1.ctTuzVL.Jdf3PKqaNSRKEBMr4ujFUaew70qd 6Bfguioizq_yBZqYAzuZpYO92tVkp94z9W62hSHyj_uigv2jSMLUvHdJL._3F24mX01SyhfScA8R luehWDG5iHM3qeRsZdNIqp_QYK4n15O3jScC5cV_wds5armM8dqhAbX.kXyLoufvzDRIFdjvXVCG O.Bvb2A-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic309.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 14:52:53 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp121.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2017 14:52:49 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 301590.58429.bm@smtp121.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: HCIORJQVM1looTy7qXPZOim3W8ccYKmzVAbIwGC7gclQtX. fg3H0x1lkRj2FIrLPUKZeRw7X37GdYcjib4.HrwaDfLqY92VwaTOHhV7u47d wFKxfMbXtmrOfw80bxxdFa8x9A_EuoKOsUBGgGtLwHMgqFXUdelJTsA17VxZ 9QG6JdpfeVkIZT.yMv2Iiarko_qpMdYaeH76eomd7arxpthgRIUSoBhOgiXF siffvsvC4GAEk9Oqhw3Bo..THqCMTdCMO1AwitpL_6HjU_.RYQPX9hxhhoHh w.F0WLKwwxDUh50a9gA73eto7CtGTDJoNZH8yPP_rga5XqcfV_RTYoztCFV9 22gqdIy54oy1kgLnbADuUhoHbQ_NSEAiP5Xgx6I3FIPsFosdlaZsNSZGaH1. ctTuzVL.Jdf3PKqaNSRKEBMr4ujFUaew70qd6Bfguioizq_yBZqYAzuZpYO9 2tVkp94z9W62hSHyj_uigv2jSMLUvHdJL._3F24mX01SyhfScA8RluehWDG5 iHM3qeRsZdNIqp_QYK4n15O3jScC5cV_wds5armM8dqhAbX.kXyLoufvzDRI FdjvXVCGO.Bvb2A-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:52:53 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to read the installed manual? Message-ID: <20171125155253.71825603@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <777705e9-771e-984f-f81d-4b499a691b9c@runbox.com> References: <24eaf387-a3cd-2b11-3dde-ccfc5cb89d48@ShaneWare.Biz> <52fb95b6-03ed-d370-55c9-0573bd42d8bb@runbox.com> <20171125162626.2f94a502.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> <777705e9-771e-984f-f81d-4b499a691b9c@runbox.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0git132 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 14:52:57 -0000 On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 22:38:40 +0800, Elof Huang wrote: >Documentation is provided to install during the installation, how >would I read it? Hi, I would wear my reading glasses and ... .... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=installation+guide+freebsd I didn't read it yet [1], but once upon a time I was able to install FreeBSD without an additional computer for web researches, while installing it. That time it was required to compile everything, installing packages providing binaries, wasn't an option. There were some pitfalls, but those were not caused by a missing documentation. I send requests to this list, but IIRC trial and error solved the issues. Regards, Ralf [1] https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall.html Is something missing. resp.not self-explaining? -- $ pacman -Q linux{,-rt{,-cornflower,-pussytoes}}|awk '{print $2}' 4.14-2 4.13.13_rt5-1 4.11.12_rt16-1 4.14_rt1-1 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 25 16:21:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC71DEA1E8 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 16:21:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rplace@vivaldi.net) Received: from mail.vivaldi.net (mail.vivaldi.net [82.221.99.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DE9664FFC for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 16:21:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rplace@vivaldi.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.vivaldi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF0252E for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 16:21:47 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at vivaldi.net Received: from mail.vivaldi.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.vivaldi.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 70CuD3UzMN6Y for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 16:21:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 03c0.comcast.net (c-71-193-191-101.hsd1.or.comcast.net [71.193.191.101]) (Authenticated sender: rplace) by mail.vivaldi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6894B527 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 16:21:41 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 16:21:17 +0000 From: rplace To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: why pkgs with vulnerabilities =?utf-8?Q?on?= =?utf-8?Q?_quarterly_aren=E2=80=99t?= updated Message-ID: <20171125162116.GA7147@03c0.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 16:21:46 -0000 Every day I check pkg audit -F on 11.1 from quarterly, and for like a month it’s listed many xorg-server vulnerabilities. And now it’s listed firefox-esr vulnerabilities for what seems like at least a week. For xorg-server, I see that there’s https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=223286 which has drawn zero attention. I see that there are newer versions in latest. How do I tell when issues have fallen between the cracks vs a change deliberately not being brought to quarterly? In cases like this, does it make sense to talk to maintainers, or to one of the pkg/ports lists, or…? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 25 18:27:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A56DECED2 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 18:27:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6932695E2 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 18:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id vAPIR1L3012426; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 13:27:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from support@safeport.com) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 13:27:01 -0500 (EST) From: DTD To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: iwm drives does not work for Intel Wireless-AC 3165 Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Sat, 25 Nov 2017 13:27:01 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 18:27:09 -0000 My laptop is a Lenovo ideapad 700. Windows shows 4 networking devices: Intel wireless bluetooth, Intel blue tooth RFCOMM TDI, Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3165, Realtek PCIe GBE controller. I got this system because as of 10.3 FreeBSD had support for Wireless-AC 3165. uname -a FreeBSD mneme.boltsys.com 11.1-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p4 #0: Tue Nov 14 06:12:40 UTC 2017 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 pciconf -lv pcib1@pci0:0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x380a17aa chip=0x19018086 rev=0x07 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor PCIe Controller (x16)' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI none5@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x42108086 chip=0x31668086 rev=0x99 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Dual Band Wireless-AC 3165 Plus Bluetooth' class = network re0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x004717aa chip=0x816810ec rev=0x15 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' device = 'RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller' class = network subclass = ethernet I think the none5@ means the iwm driver does not support this card. I had added the following to /boot/loader.conf: if_iwm_load="YES" iwm3160fw_load="YES" iwm7260fw_load="YES" iwm7265fw_load="YES" iwm8000Cfw_load="YES" On the next boot that got: rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 rgephy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000ba seT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow This I think is an error as RGEPHY(4): rgephy - RealTek RTL8168/8169/8110/8211 series 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet PHY driver. It should be iwm0 I would think. Anyway it can not be configured. ifconfig rgephy0 add inet 192.168.2.124 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig: interface rgephy0 does not exist ifconfig wlan create wlandev inet 192.168.2.124 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Device not configured ifconfig wlan create rgephy0 inet 192.168.2.124 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig: must specify a parent device (wlandev) when creating a wlan device ifconfig wlan create wlandev rgephy0 inet 192.168.2.124 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Device not configured It seems to be an Intel design requirement to add stuff to invalidate FreeBSD wireless support. I think FreeBSD 7 or earlier was the last time wifi worked for me. Anyone know if there are plans to support any of the usb wireless devices? _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com support@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 25 19:01:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F37DED6E6 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seschwar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95B896A5C3 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seschwar@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id y80so27842791wmd.0 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:01:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:mail-followup-to:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=vdypK25/CboZ4ex3ctl9ygqMRD94+A2e/RpuxIrkdNE=; b=K71JFK8KuLSie6sX7T4vVd1vIhUPwB7zYgHhJ6t5VHnGeGz/B8JJHKtUzd9KL/o7nJ HyuhWn3dM0O55+pGDLolocATBn2xEwbJC7buJ4zqCTi9ONFHv9xav7U7TeINiG5gis3B kMZJk4TjuUl2q/7jmd5jwYoPFFWebCYTrI+xKNxo6uDLN/QXE7RFkejUY5ZXVC9Tu46d 4IqIBxedjY87bn5w/r/Jd6XpcqMl3c0YCkJEbHHJkXuJSHoVG3GkeBUdHJ7/zMQnickB 0FF3l0wOT21u5nalWCBWxN4jlP4KXZX6tOnsLzkXTQOmV/q1bG74seeqWPmRwTrfzvKi EGDw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references :mail-followup-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=vdypK25/CboZ4ex3ctl9ygqMRD94+A2e/RpuxIrkdNE=; b=cNAtOeewI+WDJDyjRRSGqSaFSYVjyQgS8NWKHixWS+2N1u7gEiZA+BoFAZdoXUfJR7 ge3Jh9AeYWv/EorcN2TazqyVUva81V6dtKcEjfHUKz9iuvaHxscjPQgk0gS+zOmrDq/6 7ErbJQLUnyqs8corV/CaYMOvmQrJPgMAw8DqHh0qcz48XsTwDeFYUhv5eY79AIJYKePx fE0VVkfDIaDnsiftI5upsWU13kyWavvgP+Uf3iFVzCVw1FUThldjpVOcf4a+N5E6cf+q 0aZwLryCGWsfK1A96y/605b3nHPDI9oYQE6KsqsaIFFodjGGwkR+EJYy7nug+2KjnQ8p aP6g== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX7JR2NbWfZki7kQ5UO/EQHhBNUaGVzdOBIp7+ER8587+z6+Lzqu 0jdlpNkB/rY8Fo/JqgW34VY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMboNVeJ3fNO7R2P8rPe0LyYJUEcY+n+hILZUw2Q1WLM902bTK/TwhZ1uLGS4SbNAXf2PX4YAg== X-Received: by 10.28.234.71 with SMTP id i68mr13068523wmh.7.1511636484044; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dyndsl-092-252-012-048.ewe-ip-backbone.de. [92.252.12.48]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n143sm26592518wmd.31.2017.11.25.11.01.23 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:01:23 -0800 (PST) From: Sebastian Schwarz To: DTD , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: iwm drives does not work for Intel Wireless-AC 3165 In-Reply-To: References: Mail-Followup-To: DTD , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 20:01:22 +0100 Message-ID: <873752ji7x.fsf@domain.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:01:26 -0000 On 2017-11-25, DTD wrote: > My laptop is a Lenovo ideapad 700. Windows shows 4 networking devices: Intel > wireless bluetooth, Intel blue tooth RFCOMM TDI, Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC > 3165, Realtek PCIe GBE controller. I got this system because as of 10.3 FreeBSD > had support for Wireless-AC 3165. > > uname -a > FreeBSD mneme.boltsys.com 11.1-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p4 #0: Tue Nov 14 > 06:12:40 UTC 2017 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > pciconf -lv > pcib1@pci0:0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x380a17aa chip=0x19018086 rev=0x07 > hdr=0x01 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = 'Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor PCIe Controller (x16)' > class = bridge > subclass = PCI-PCI > none5@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x42108086 chip=0x31668086 rev=0x99 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = 'Dual Band Wireless-AC 3165 Plus Bluetooth' > class = network > re0@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x004717aa chip=0x816810ec rev=0x15 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' > device = 'RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > > I think the none5@ means the iwm driver does not support this card. I had added > the following to /boot/loader.conf: > > if_iwm_load="YES" > iwm3160fw_load="YES" > iwm7260fw_load="YES" > iwm7265fw_load="YES" > iwm8000Cfw_load="YES" > > On the next boot that got: > > rgephy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 > rgephy0: none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, > 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000ba seT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, > 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow > > This I think is an error as RGEPHY(4): rgephy - RealTek RTL8168/8169/8110/8211 > series 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet PHY driver. It should be iwm0 I would think. > Anyway it can not be configured. > > ifconfig rgephy0 add inet 192.168.2.124 netmask 255.255.255.0 > ifconfig: interface rgephy0 does not exist > > ifconfig wlan create wlandev inet 192.168.2.124 netmask 255.255.255.0 > ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Device not configured You have to create the WLAN interface from the actual wlan device: # ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev rgephy0 > ifconfig wlan create rgephy0 inet 192.168.2.124 netmask 255.255.255.0 > ifconfig: must specify a parent device (wlandev) when creating a wlan device > > ifconfig wlan create wlandev rgephy0 inet 192.168.2.124 netmask 255.255.255.0 > ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Device not configured > > It seems to be an Intel design requirement to add stuff to invalidate FreeBSD > wireless support. I think FreeBSD 7 or earlier was the last time wifi worked for > me. Anyone know if there are plans to support any of the usb wireless devices? > > > _____ > Douglas Denault > http://www.safeport.com > support@safeport.com > Voice: 301-217-9220 > Fax: 301-217-9277 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Unfortunately the Handbook is not as clear on the WLAN setup as it could be. It took me a few hours to realize iwn0 wasn't meant to show up in ifconfig's output. After the drivers have attached you can list the available WLAN devices using the command "sysctl net.wlan.devices": # sysctl net.wlan.devices net.wlan.devices: iwn0 You then have to create the actual WLAN interface from it: # ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev iwn0 # ifconfig wlan0 up Now run wpa_supplicant to associate it with an access point: # wpa_supplicant -B -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -P /var/run/wpa_supplicant/wlan0.pid Then configure its IP address either statically: # ifconfig wlan0 inet 192.168.2.124/24 or dynamically: # dhclient wlan0 ifconfig_wlan0="DHCP" wlans_iwn0="wlan0" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 25 19:14:39 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7491ADEDBC7 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44C236AE7B for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id vAPJEbKH013524; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 14:14:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from support@safeport.com) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 14:14:37 -0500 (EST) From: DTD To: Sebastian Schwarz cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: iwm drives does not work for Intel Wireless-AC 3165 In-Reply-To: <873752ji7x.fsf@domain.invalid> Message-ID: References: <873752ji7x.fsf@domain.invalid> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Sat, 25 Nov 2017 14:14:37 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:14:39 -0000 On Sat, 25 Nov 2017, Sebastian Schwarz wrote: > On 2017-11-25, DTD wrote: [cut] >> This I think is an error as RGEPHY(4): rgephy - RealTek RTL8168/8169/8110/8211 >> series 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet PHY driver. It should be iwm0 I would think. >> Anyway it can not be configured. >> >> ifconfig rgephy0 add inet 192.168.2.124 netmask 255.255.255.0 >> ifconfig: interface rgephy0 does not exist >> >> ifconfig wlan create wlandev inet 192.168.2.124 netmask 255.255.255.0 >> ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Device not configured > > You have to create the WLAN interface from the actual wlan > device: > > # ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev rgephy0 root@mneme:~ # ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev rgephy0 ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Device not configured Is there some other loader or sysctl and first needs to be done? The system is a straign install into one slice with freebsd-update done after. I've installed xorg and xfce so lots of packages but no system configuration past what I listed. Really appreciate the feedback BTW. [cut] > > Unfortunately the Handbook is not as clear on the WLAN setup as > it could be. It took me a few hours to realize iwn0 wasn't > meant to show up in ifconfig's output. > > After the drivers have attached you can list the available WLAN > devices using the command "sysctl net.wlan.devices": > > # sysctl net.wlan.devices > net.wlan.devices: iwn0 > > You then have to create the actual WLAN interface from it: > > # ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev iwn0 > # ifconfig wlan0 up > > Now run wpa_supplicant to associate it with an access point: > > # wpa_supplicant -B -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -P /var/run/wpa_supplicant/wlan0.pid > > Then configure its IP address either statically: > > # ifconfig wlan0 inet 192.168.2.124/24 > > or dynamically: > > # dhclient wlan0 > > > ifconfig_wlan0="DHCP" > wlans_iwn0="wlan0" > > _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com support@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 25 19:18:45 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12812DEDCDD for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seschwar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x230.google.com (mail-wr0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99C466AF9E for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seschwar@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x230.google.com with SMTP id u40so22887834wrf.10 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:18:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:mail-followup-to:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=UF87dj3ocge2brM/4XkTGkLm+oPb/n+GpIi71SOcv2o=; b=RgjvQWoM+X+LT5gMHdqk3bShna4PBmRlqTRDjxQVnARWoqIayT7cUpKBVFcgxJyWy0 datp55COJX1dQOkigxDqmuCio8IT1BWC/WzD0RDODxhiVhRyldc+DIAKm0VwXNMMUjfM J+9Iq6XyBqgf5cz9iVb8/OXqIeaGoaWhWi3O4ZxWpY2Wx+mBSo6CxX2TLbbQJ8E66kP/ c7uEq4yT934gFIKSFmRgd8J1UJLUzHWMblNqZ6Mx3Sw530pg72HJ9+aZ0Etd+7Q6idwL CKX3AYytjj5hxeBGR/bg9pnxitW+YrV/fJkUZi2YdsVTJp3jLFBF3S2vKwrzzDq4pyNX mIZw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references :mail-followup-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=UF87dj3ocge2brM/4XkTGkLm+oPb/n+GpIi71SOcv2o=; b=uZFQN88X77GIq9Y37tpJy3E2CJ6ObN4dIFjRw4f2y0zL0NMylx8QvsJM7kpbLz0cFz fCugZ3rwS2AFSAKD3shr7Rr6kHSigq2xQUFYYZXl+9vwIpuMJipNuTo7gkBCyTr1RQjl iqpGFYxFQOirMHpOXJlPp+q2teqJsz/eTrMyNw6qloIYhzlc4oB1c4EnsRHoBcMMAO+v Qap2BDa/NcjYNrzk31jXcbz0AYEINl+HYtPiZs5gC05ee35AKq/x7j4ERqPFmPPtNE0H LyuERPGBykxwD4LIpx17x1a/7pFGttsB1lxfFlpUi/+vx7N75tmUCXto3WczxEjDTxYz BpvA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX5n3dSdNkXriox7S3lCeaIqQbC6J77oX5+yb+qU3H5g9MUeCtKI /FqYk4TILfiWR52B7wJNt8Zn4g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMa74s5pwlBHj2hENudQYXHeZlZndtZ/ZbfErrQUAX/bNFDdSxYfxz0OiAmjFLsk/51BBbs2qQ== X-Received: by 10.223.139.149 with SMTP id o21mr27402628wra.87.1511637522155; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dyndsl-092-252-012-048.ewe-ip-backbone.de. [92.252.12.48]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t10sm14613122wra.16.2017.11.25.11.18.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:18:41 -0800 (PST) From: Sebastian Schwarz To: DTD , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: iwm drives does not work for Intel Wireless-AC 3165 In-Reply-To: <873752ji7x.fsf@domain.invalid> References: <873752ji7x.fsf@domain.invalid> Mail-Followup-To: DTD , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 20:18:40 +0100 Message-ID: <87y3mui2un.fsf@domain.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:18:45 -0000 On 2017-11-25, Sebastian Schwarz wrote: > Unfortunately the Handbook is not as clear on the WLAN setup as > it could be. Actually it now is. I even checked that before sending. But then hit I "send" instead of "discard message"... :/ I'm sorry for the spam. There is one thing I can contribute though: On 2017-11-25, DTD wrote: > This I think is an error as RGEPHY(4): rgephy - RealTek > RTL8168/8169/8110/8211 series 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet PHY > driver. It should be iwm0 I would think. Anyway it can not > be configured. As mentioned in the handbook check the output of "sysctl net.wlan.devices" to see the correct name of your WLAN devices. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 25 19:37:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6BBDEE407 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEDFA6B8D7 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:37:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@safeport.com) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id vAPJbf4c014067; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 14:37:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from support@safeport.com) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 14:37:41 -0500 (EST) From: DTD To: Sebastian Schwarz cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: iwm drives does not work for Intel Wireless-AC 3165 In-Reply-To: <87y3mui2un.fsf@domain.invalid> Message-ID: References: <873752ji7x.fsf@domain.invalid> <87y3mui2un.fsf@domain.invalid> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Sat, 25 Nov 2017 14:37:42 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:37:44 -0000 On Sat, 25 Nov 2017, Sebastian Schwarz wrote: > On 2017-11-25, Sebastian Schwarz wrote: >> Unfortunately the Handbook is not as clear on the WLAN setup as >> it could be. > > Actually it now is. I even checked that before sending. But > then hit I "send" instead of "discard message"... :/ I'm sorry > for the spam. > > There is one thing I can contribute though: > > On 2017-11-25, DTD wrote: >> This I think is an error as RGEPHY(4): rgephy - RealTek >> RTL8168/8169/8110/8211 series 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet PHY >> driver. It should be iwm0 I would think. Anyway it can not >> be configured. > > As mentioned in the handbook check the output of "sysctl > net.wlan.devices" to see the correct name of your WLAN devices. Bingo!!! <8) root@mneme:~ # sysctl net.wlan.devices net.wlan.devices: iwm0 root@mneme:~ # ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev iwm0 thank you _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com support@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 25 20:15:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A106FDEEFA6 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 20:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2036CB32 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 20:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C3CB6D834 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 20:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id vAPKFCcv072029 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:15:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id vAPKFB14072026 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:15:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:15:11 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: iwm drives does not work for Intel Wireless-AC 3165 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <873752ji7x.fsf@domain.invalid> <87y3mui2un.fsf@domain.invalid> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:15:12 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 20:15:18 -0000 On Sat, 25 Nov 2017, DTD wrote: > On Sat, 25 Nov 2017, Sebastian Schwarz wrote: > >> On 2017-11-25, Sebastian Schwarz wrote: >>> Unfortunately the Handbook is not as clear on the WLAN setup as >>> it could be. >> >> Actually it now is. I even checked that before sending. But >> then hit I "send" instead of "discard message"... :/ I'm sorry >> for the spam. >> >> There is one thing I can contribute though: >> >> On 2017-11-25, DTD wrote: >>> This I think is an error as RGEPHY(4): rgephy - RealTek >>> RTL8168/8169/8110/8211 series 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet PHY >>> driver. It should be iwm0 I would think. Anyway it can not >>> be configured. >> >> As mentioned in the handbook check the output of "sysctl >> net.wlan.devices" to see the correct name of your WLAN devices. > > Bingo!!! <8) > > root@mneme:~ # sysctl net.wlan.devices > net.wlan.devices: iwm0 Hopfully this will save someone. I had an error in /boot/loader.conf. It did not show in vi but when I was following Sebastian's instructions and they did not work I did a kldstat when sysctl net.wlan.devices showed nothing.