From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 11 04:49:22 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD01E1129AAD for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 04:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4EAA6EF4E for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 04:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id wAB4LkWj052413 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 21:21:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) To: FreeBSD Mailing List Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken Subject: upgrade 10.3 to 11.2? Message-ID: <278e9c07-ec53-546f-7d3e-5f3fef698cc4@dreamchaser.org> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 21:20:45 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Sat, 10 Nov 2018 21:21:46 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A4EAA6EF4E X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.17 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.75)[-0.746,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.58)[-0.582,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[nightmare.dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.51)[-0.514,0]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 04:49:23 -0000 Being a bit slow, I neglected to upgrade from 10.3-RELEASE-p29 to 10.4 and 10.4 went eol while I was out of the country... Can one upgrade directly from 10.3 to 11.2? The release notes for 11.2 say: Systems running 10.4-RELEASE or 11.1-RELEASE can upgrade as follows: ... Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 11 05:00:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBFB112A1D7 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 05:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x92a.google.com (mail-ua1-x92a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::92a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C883A6F4C6 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 05:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x92a.google.com with SMTP id s26so2000051uao.0 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 21:00:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=FU2+r6iTnkrOkS3lFl9jmXxnw/+DveObdn5W4AJYWLU=; b=gkNP/7Ls65rGAUuWJooUwVoPeW4KE+RJQXg5eSU69Z8iQyu/jSoMIw8ZRnZLuoNx5i ihmtXhzORy0sfTS/9w+HOaUlr4CplvF92cK7+pj46NeMLvKJwyBGnVeHcL5xyhlE+I2U P5pokQM+Ru8mp/MJHbolgywAnHfmMniX2tUWdVoxRYa/zFDRfvXtOHCbxofimTvD58cW lF5ljSK3CdgbOruXetYQkUs9rYFwCYf1BxAKE2oRh+Vg0OOi3CYCp2gtnPt87XRvzpYf GL/0/iW4EWeQS5iaccqW19vaW3bFj6jDKUxJ7OCfM9RG6mfS7cFC91bBetFkAa7gwggc 1Q3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=FU2+r6iTnkrOkS3lFl9jmXxnw/+DveObdn5W4AJYWLU=; b=WwKQDsNNMZYBNf0fIGWq4YkctaAApJn2fXBVB4gWn+cs3yzKDCKze9TcxiT7irg9uk FzgQxBKIwUXmsIcwY9+bFk9Z3pdSHh9DwIhsDLnXl/RySPAqPO4plmAeyq9wxHsW16EL jx5bjsCd2rPl7MxFVD8fUVqHXOq/VpmZBSH1MqH8ciwb6GCD1pJnRxkdnl8ABkeJIHvU 0AZ3nI0ZZfEcVSrWizSqN12f565Z1QMn9c8Bydqn32TwoO5w2c2eld8r+Xrw8svjAq44 k2PPTyL7El8BZR2HWzSH9fsWf8s8E2QdzosxoOCqj/RoHKPzYRhA7UZDW+g23YPA7g+U 72CQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLwaeErf3qK9KoycJnMIXvoGEIakT4+m1Tv8qjjub033F1Ad0sC 4uCkTV6S1KwKmAo0QXU0hlC4WZmZlEq4AvMIX9pdOiZQ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5ctv+CMLr4ijiMxYSFoUncLX9QnkxU6WWiLmfVbb91NY+YmnoYCT8R10MIjQg63iTpJUwIncx+D9HiXIY1EzZw= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:3105:: with SMTP id e5mr6355971ual.92.1541912437953; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 21:00:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:54c3:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 21:00:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <278e9c07-ec53-546f-7d3e-5f3fef698cc4@dreamchaser.org> References: <278e9c07-ec53-546f-7d3e-5f3fef698cc4@dreamchaser.org> From: B J Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 05:00:37 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: upgrade 10.3 to 11.2? To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C883A6F4C6 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.94 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[a.2.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.940,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.99)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.89), asn: 15169(-1.94), country: US(-0.09)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 05:00:39 -0000 On 11/11/18, Gary Aitken wrote: > Being a bit slow, I neglected to upgrade from 10.3-RELEASE-p29 to 10.4 > and 10.4 went eol while I was out of the country... > > Can one upgrade directly from 10.3 to 11.2? > The release notes for 11.2 say: > Systems running 10.4-RELEASE or 11.1-RELEASE can upgrade as follows: I recall doing something similar a year or so ago. I don't recall any major problems, but it did take a comparatively longer time. B. M. Jatzeck From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 11 05:32:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2229A112B3AE for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 05:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 720F870548 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 05:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id wAB5WZgb052614; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:32:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: upgrade 10.3 to 11.2? To: B J Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <278e9c07-ec53-546f-7d3e-5f3fef698cc4@dreamchaser.org> From: Gary Aitken Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:31:35 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Sat, 10 Nov 2018 22:32:35 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 720F870548 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.04 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.84)[-0.838,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.86)[-0.861,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: nightmare.dreamchaser.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.01)[-0.012,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 05:32:38 -0000 On 11/10/18 22:00, B J wrote: > On 11/11/18, Gary Aitken wrote: >> Being a bit slow, I neglected to upgrade from 10.3-RELEASE-p29 to 10.4 >> and 10.4 went eol while I was out of the country... >> >> Can one upgrade directly from 10.3 to 11.2? >> The release notes for 11.2 say: >> Systems running 10.4-RELEASE or 11.1-RELEASE can upgrade as follows: > > > > I recall doing something similar a year or so ago. I don't recall any > major problems, but it did take a comparatively longer time. Thanks. Longer in that it upgraded to 10.4 and then 11.x? or just longer than a 10.3 => 10.4 or 11.0 => 11.1 type upgrade? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 11 05:34:48 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26568112B4F4 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 05:34:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 888B270622 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 05:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=a91yzgaF c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:117 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:17 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XRQyMpdBKAEA:10 a=JHtHm7312UAA:10 a=48faUk6PgeAA:10 a=0wQVMjYSAAAA:8 a=-kfKq5b0cZ_kUgQsdhMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=YuaPctig67EA:10 a=ibV0ZHtNwtz4ncopG1mI:22 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Authentication-Results: smtp03.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp03.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp03.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=roberthuff; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [209.6.230.48] ([209.6.230.48:58216] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id 54/C0-43928-07FB7EB5; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 00:34:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23527.49008.281225.26595@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 00:34:40 -0500 From: Robert Huff To: B J Cc: freebsd@dreamchaser.org, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: upgrade 10.3 to 11.2? In-Reply-To: References: <278e9c07-ec53-546f-7d3e-5f3fef698cc4@dreamchaser.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 888B270622 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.07 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:69.168.97.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-0.24)[asn: 36271(-1.12), country: US(-0.09)]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx.rcn.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rcn.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.92)[-0.921,0]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:69.168.97.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[78.97.168.69.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 05:34:48 -0000 B J writes: > On 11/11/18, Gary Aitken wrote: > > Being a bit slow, I neglected to upgrade from 10.3-RELEASE-p29 to 10.4 > > and 10.4 went eol while I was out of the country... > > > > Can one upgrade directly from 10.3 to 11.2? > > I recall doing something similar a year or so ago. I don't recall any > major problems, but it did take a comparatively longer time. It _can_ be done. There is a large pile of conventional wisdom as to why - if possible - one should re-install across major version. Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 11 09:18:58 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4F61131A2E for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 09:18:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markand@malikania.fr) Received: from smtp.smtpout.orange.fr (smtp01.smtpout.orange.fr [80.12.242.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88BD476CEC for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 09:18:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markand@malikania.fr) Received: from postfix.malikania.fr ([5.135.187.121]) by mwinf5d54 with ME id yZJo1y0032dbEiD03ZJoW6; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:18:48 +0100 X-ME-Helo: postfix.malikania.fr X-ME-Auth: ZGVtZWxpZXIuZGF2aWRAb3JhbmdlLmZy X-ME-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:18:48 +0100 X-ME-IP: 5.135.187.121 Received: from kiwi (unknown [86.243.9.210]) by postfix.malikania.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1CBF87625F for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:03:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <687be81a7d4b9342d3f1643ce6fc5dbe83c7b099.camel@malikania.fr> Subject: Unkillable process in a ZFS jail From: David Demelier To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:03:07 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.30.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 88BD476CEC X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.85 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.65)[-0.647,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.33)[-0.326,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[malikania.fr]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.44)[0.437,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[malikania.fr]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[123.242.12.80.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[123.242.12.80.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3215, ipnet:80.12.240.0/20, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: FR(-0.02)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 09:18:58 -0000 Hello there, I've just realized there was a process burning my small dedicated server CPU for 4 days long. The process was spawn in a ZFS jail from buildbot service. top shown this: buildbot 1 20 0 0K 16K CPU0 0 83.5H 101.02% python2.7 No kill -9 was able to stop the process, the jail was also unstoppable. And any filesystem operation in that jail got stuck. Just like editing /etc/rc.conf didn't terminate correctly. I remember there was a ZFS issue a long time ago about deadlocks, but I'm not sure it's still present, my server runs FreeBSD 11.2. This leads me to these questions: 1. Is there some issue regarding ZFS? What to do if a process is unkillable? 2. Do you know any kind of monitoring service or periodic files that reports too many CPU usage after a while? By sending a mail that would be very handy. Regards, -- David From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 11 10:14:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EAD511338A9 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:14:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B386F7960D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1541931248; x=1544523248; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=TfKZySBQHtifLKRdUX65AblrBIhAnalmqDJXScHO1ok=; b=L0flVCIkUgEwBz7kRaE8kTkNLOvhFmwrHK6Q8zYwo3hN5gmqFQLv42HGbshN4ZkC2wA8FpYnOAOHAj2tmmFoVPZ95wArau9ei+FDp+a+W4h9cvTBJih18PSRMOp9O5hZ5+TRfz3tyknNFkmOtUspEyDhLAOdZ12igJ/PgkH5mdQ= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOWYwMDAwMDIwMGZhYjIuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r5.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r5.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [52.204.195.176]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 11 Nov 2018 05:13:56 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r5.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 11 Nov 2018 05:13:55 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gLmkb-000N8i-Jz; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:13:53 +0000 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:13:53 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: upgrade 10.3 to 11.2? Message-Id: <20181111101353.627975be4c04d6bd5e73e0e8@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <278e9c07-ec53-546f-7d3e-5f3fef698cc4@dreamchaser.org> References: <278e9c07-ec53-546f-7d3e-5f3fef698cc4@dreamchaser.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B386F7960D X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.96 / 200.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mxbh.socketlabs.com,mxbsg.socketlabs.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.981,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.03)[0.034,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.982,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:14:08 -0000 On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 21:20:45 -0700 Gary Aitken wrote: > Being a bit slow, I neglected to upgrade from 10.3-RELEASE-p29 to 10.4 > and 10.4 went eol while I was out of the country... > > Can one upgrade directly from 10.3 to 11.2? > The release notes for 11.2 say: > Systems running 10.4-RELEASE or 11.1-RELEASE can upgrade as follows: > ... I'd be surprised if it were a problem - I went from 10.3 to 11.1 with no memorable trouble. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 11 10:18:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F1A1133AC8 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:18:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D8C179790 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:18:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1541931513; x=1544523513; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=gL7EpynQQerC7Lk5URu6CtyK+Jelw13aIPU9S3PixoA=; b=ccNOmLTI2C51XMQ4t59r8pCw1hY1ZME1MaG/1Eqowp0KNqnSMQO7sSJHCQCcAOHZek20TOJMyhubIfplhPiBoySoJlQWdU8Pg/H0hNMz8vgqZuf2nUWyZNGuh+ET/KKs37PDp9wp8dvabjJhq9ittxAG6zO5mDcnH7VCP+oyI6k= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOWYwMDAwMDIwMTE0OGMuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.h.in.socketlabs.com (r3.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.13]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 11 Nov 2018 05:18:32 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r3.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 11 Nov 2018 05:18:31 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gLmp4-000N9M-2N; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:18:30 +0000 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:18:29 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Robert Huff Cc: B J , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: upgrade 10.3 to 11.2? Message-Id: <20181111101829.6d12ac025b114af57d924fb1@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <23527.49008.281225.26595@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <278e9c07-ec53-546f-7d3e-5f3fef698cc4@dreamchaser.org> <23527.49008.281225.26595@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1D8C179790 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.06 / 200.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mxbh.socketlabs.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.06)[-0.057,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.985,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.989,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:18:33 -0000 On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 00:34:40 -0500 Robert Huff wrote: > It _can_ be done. > There is a large pile of conventional wisdom as to why - if > possible - one should re-install across major version. FreeBSD has always supported upgrading across a major version, even when that involved a change of binary format. It should be expected to work. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 11 10:34:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628C111341E4; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=68bu=nw=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be) Received: from venus.codepro.be (venus.codepro.be [IPv6:2a01:4f8:162:1127::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.codepro.be", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F4707A0FF; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:34:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=68bu=nw=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be) Received: from [10.0.2.193] (ptr-8rh08k1bb0ysptp17k8.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be [IPv6:2a02:1811:240e:402:d5a0:1ec:f70f:b988]) (Authenticated sender: kp) by venus.codepro.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B8FF97724; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:34:39 +0100 (CET) From: "Kristof Provost" To: "Ernie Luzar" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 12.0-beta3 pf firewall NAT rule syntax for vnet jail using pf Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:33:45 +0100 X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6126) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5BE5CE9D.9030503@gmail.com> References: <5BE5CE9D.9030503@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F4707A0FF X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.28 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[sigsegv.be : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM,none]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:4f8:162:1127::2]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.7.2.1.1.2.6.1.0.8.f.4.0.1.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.9.2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx2.codepro.be,mx1.codepro.be]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.984,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[kristof@sigsegv.be,srs0=68bu=nw=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.19)[ipnet: 2a01:4f8::/29(-2.92), asn: 24940(-3.00), country: DE(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/29, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[kristof@sigsegv.be,srs0=68bu=nw=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:34:43 -0000 On 9 Nov 2018, at 19:14, Ernie Luzar wrote: > Hello lists; > > testing 12.0-beta3 vnet jail that is using pf firewall. > net.inet.ip.forwarding =1 for the vnet jail. > Host is running ipfilter firewall. > The kldload pf.ko pflog.ko command has been issued. > 10.0.10.30 is the ip address assigned to the vnet jail in the > jail.conf. > Using this nat rule > > nat on epair2b from 10.0.0.30/24 to any -> (vge0) > Is this rule set on the pf inside the jail? > vge0 is the hosts interface facing the public internet and a member of > bridge2 along with member epair2a. > Is this bridge on the host, so outside the jail? If so, how can the jail see the vge0 interface? Best regards, Kristof From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 11 13:26:19 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAF61104B8D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:26:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta02.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EDC580900 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:26:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from freebsd.friedrich.org ([74.132.25.214]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id Lpi2gfGoIXEleLpi5gReKl; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:23:29 +0000 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: sysctl Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 08:23:26 -0500 Message-ID: <8667980.RH3biPoPvx@freebsd.friedrich.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfMmFPH03UmKx3oTdnV5rAdHU6zcZQUbgfaTVoYpN+rpfGt2lcQ1ulZN1nzg2vOkPxFhaABuki/FBXBE2vw+jcEGKE1Ufbwxuu55PmOZOPviB7T3Fzp9B 5tLwzkiERfN50PiDDyBuxKUfkS8ZfVS2FtrTwF5jVdP9fMZT80RwqkAsVQMaHfOBXW2IDkmES4D4vw== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0EDC580900 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.62 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.79)[-0.790,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[twc.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[twc.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.82)[-0.816,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: dnvrco-cmedge02.email.rr.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.19)[-0.186,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[228.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[214.25.132.74.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; CTE_CASE(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[twc.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:26:19 -0000 Kmail's pakg-message states two parameters must be increased: sysctl net.local.stream.recvspace=65536 sysctl net.local.stream.sendspace=65536 Where do I put these so they occur each boot? I tried adding the following to /boot/loader.conf: net.local.stream.recvspace="65536" net.local.stream.sendspace="65536" But that didn't work. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 11 13:34:11 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902C4110535B for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from forward102o.mail.yandex.net (forward102o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::602]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71024810A6 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:34:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starikarp@yandex.com) Received: from mxback18j.mail.yandex.net (mxback18j.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1619::94]) by forward102o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id B27A95A0415C; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 16:34:06 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp4o.mail.yandex.net (smtp4o.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::28]) by mxback18j.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id 7v4pi0Ipf3-Y6ciqG0h; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 16:34:06 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1541943246; bh=zygYld0LXszeVm/VlBRItUVxER6NqkhcXfyiljw3nQo=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References; b=shOInNVs3qdjvl8uYyeYoG8nS73MhYSc/pQ9kq3XG4GPBVkH2VSbiSKx3kt92LTZg do+PSDKFV6q1mGHSAsCkYvdSEeLopg44t5TyT9h6p5utGGY4A7AMnZbKnU4O/xv3wD BbN1Kmwgvc3Z3+xm+k/oGa124gUxDrNx4y4TQXJ0= Received: by smtp4o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id K804uiYIO1-Y4VGgaar; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 16:34:05 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1541943245; bh=zygYld0LXszeVm/VlBRItUVxER6NqkhcXfyiljw3nQo=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References; b=Bctsil4bYXJaDYV8Jp6nLqau5VuSWqP69SBIvOgxv1NUK1ipq3DmFl4R8Q/qd/y+p bc26ZSyt0qZPUzVihkMi8QiGes/n1BnT9RPe3OVk/nwUDs+QYejIO+CF81674H2h/t XtIFJJglGE7z1OAEsxWQdhJYBzv33Z8XK3BjgqQ0= Authentication-Results: smtp4o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 08:34:02 -0500 From: To: Steven Friedrich Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysctl Message-ID: <20181111083402.439b2657@yandex.com> In-Reply-To: <8667980.RH3biPoPvx@freebsd.friedrich.org> References: <8667980.RH3biPoPvx@freebsd.friedrich.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 71024810A6 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.84 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yandex.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::/64]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yandex.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-1.77)[ipnet: 2a02:6b8::/32(-4.93), asn: 13238(-3.93), country: RU(-0.01)]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx.yandex.ru]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yandex.com:+]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.952,0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[twc.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yandex.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[2.0.6.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.d.2.a.1.0.0.0.0.8.b.6.0.2.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yandex.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13238, ipnet:2a02:6b8::/32, country:RU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:34:11 -0000 On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 08:23:26 -0500 Steven Friedrich wrote: > Kmail's pakg-message states two parameters must be increased: > > sysctl net.local.stream.recvspace=65536 > sysctl net.local.stream.sendspace=65536 > > Where do I put these so they occur each boot? > > I tried adding the following to /boot/loader.conf: > net.local.stream.recvspace="65536" > net.local.stream.sendspace="65536" > > But that didn't work. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Did you try to put in /etc/sysctl.conf? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 11 13:42:01 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC2F11057EE for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta02.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56B8F8170D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from freebsd.friedrich.org ([74.132.25.214]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id LpzxgfTouXEleLpzzgRjMC; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:42:00 +0000 From: Steven Friedrich To: starikarp@yandex.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysctl Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 08:41:57 -0500 Message-ID: <16263752.sFgvYJuXru@freebsd.friedrich.org> In-Reply-To: <20181111083402.439b2657@yandex.com> References: <8667980.RH3biPoPvx@freebsd.friedrich.org> <20181111083402.439b2657@yandex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfN940i87o/c5VWF3KxMpKB1NlMlRAcI4A889iFD9waekILbH0LfG3CGIczZpJpPf7zTZkiCxVTsxND3WnniOr2qSmLdspWb6mDqs69DYj+dm5HHTyhE2 jpFeYZrKWji3L5jsMbwTz+5BsgRr8xZ6Hwj1xJ7yCXykBQbYeawqPa+jf/EM1S8kcLgVh8gEnMKhiAbmCs8VO+hykG+N5NDSmh9RO0LXL9g9EmczvZRnvOS4 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 56B8F8170D X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.56 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.68)[-0.684,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[twc.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[twc.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.72)[0.723,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.77)[-0.774,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: dnvrco-cmedge02.email.rr.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[228.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yandex.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; CTE_CASE(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[twc.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[214.25.132.74.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 13:42:02 -0000 On Sunday, 11 November 2018 08:34:02 EST starikarp@yandex.com wrote: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 08:23:26 -0500 > > Steven Friedrich wrote: > > Kmail's pakg-message states two parameters must be increased: > > sysctl net.local.stream.recvspace=65536 > > sysctl net.local.stream.sendspace=65536 > > > > Where do I put these so they occur each boot? > > > > I tried adding the following to /boot/loader.conf: > > net.local.stream.recvspace="65536" > > net.local.stream.sendspace="65536" > > > > But that didn't work. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Did you try to put in /etc/sysctl.conf? Thanks. I've been wrestling Kubuntu and Gentoo so much, I forgot my FreeBSD knowledge. 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To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: F32A38421D X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.71 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[e.2.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.73)[-0.732,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.97)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.84), asn: 15169(-1.93), country: US(-0.09)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 14:57:29 -0000 >> I recall doing something similar a year or so ago. I don't recall any >> major problems, but it did take a comparatively longer time. > > Thanks. > > Longer in that it upgraded to 10.4 and then 11.x? > or just longer than a 10.3 => 10.4 or 11.0 => 11.1 type upgrade? I remember that the process didn't go directly from the early 10.x to the 11.x versions. Some cleanup was required, such as removing parts that were obsolete or installing bits of interim versions that would be needed for the later ones. B. M. Jatzeck From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Nov 11 15:34:30 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFEE1108B81 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 15:34:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 132688582C for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 15:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from freebsd.friedrich.org ([74.132.25.214]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id LriHgaidGceP9LriJg3N6I; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 15:31:51 +0000 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: VLC 3.0.4 Vetinari META data Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 10:31:48 -0500 Message-ID: <16275337.sFgvYJuXru@freebsd.friedrich.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfKp9Q0AtExHXFHIYas16nn7JvDmsbNxlzlG2NQClZn64tJLZtKt8CWCWOhKYDSCykXa2LiTX9WhtEOpETIT77ESmEdP8SFGu0iiJgJpnUQHdbbz6PZDW pGozpf5ALtB7KfrBca4XXnm+4zPDZC+57x7nizpmHL8FGAOWH6q6iVVqLz2V0f59P8TX53Osrq318A== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 132688582C X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.70 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.71)[-0.708,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[twc.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[twc.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.74)[-0.738,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: dnvrco-cmedge02.email.rr.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.42)[-0.420,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[228.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[214.25.132.74.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; CTE_CASE(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[twc.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 15:34:30 -0000 I'm using VLC to play commercial audio CDs. 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[65.25.48.31]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id y190-v6sm2504782itg.3.2018.11.11.09.00.48 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 11 Nov 2018 09:00:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5BE86041.9070900@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:00:49 -0500 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kristof Provost CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 12.0-beta3 pf firewall NAT rule syntax for vnet jail using pf References: <5BE5CE9D.9030503@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3FDD888B36 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.73 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-2.73)[ip: (-8.79), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.84), asn: 15169(-1.94), country: US(-0.09)]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.3.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.984,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:00:51 -0000 Kristof Provost wrote: > On 9 Nov 2018, at 19:14, Ernie Luzar wrote: > > Hello lists; > > testing 12.0-beta3 vnet jail that is using pf firewall. > net.inet.ip.forwarding =1 for the vnet jail. > Host is running ipfilter firewall. > The kldload pf.ko pflog.ko command has been issued. > 10.0.10.30 is the ip address assigned to the vnet jail in the jail.conf. > Using this nat rule > > nat on epair2b from 10.0.0.30/24 to any -> (vge0) > > Is this rule set on the pf inside the jail? YES > > vge0 is the hosts interface facing the public internet and a member > of bridge2 along with member epair2a. > > Is this bridge on the host, so outside the jail? YES > > If so, how can the jail see the vge0 interface? Through the bridge? I don't really know. Just guessing. > > Best regards, > Kristof > I added pass to the pf nat rule so inbound packets that match entry in state table get passed automatically. Now using this pf nat rule nat pass on epair2b from 10.0.0.30/24 to any -> (epair2b) This is the ifconfig -a on the host after the vnet jail is started. em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=81249b ether d0:50:99:93:75:98 inet 10.0.10.2 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active nd6 options=29 vge0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3899 ether 00:16:36:4e:35:86 hwaddr 10:00:60:21:00:93 inet xx.xx.xx.xx netmask 0xfffff000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active nd6 options=29 lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=680003 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 groups: lo nd6 options=21 pflog0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 33160 groups: pflog bridge2: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 02:5c:98:6f:9d:0a id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 2000 timeout 1200 root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 member: epair2a flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 6 priority 128 path cost 2000 member: vge0 flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 20000 groups: bridge nd6 options=1 epair2a: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 02:d9:a3:a8:e7:0a inet6 fe80::d9:a3ff:fea8:e70a%epair2a prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 groups: epair media: Ethernet 10Gbase-T (10Gbase-T ) status: active nd6 options=21 Here are the pf rules in the vnet jail oif=epair2b set block-policy drop set fail-policy drop set state-policy if-bound scrub in on $oif all set skip on lo0 nat pass on $oif inet from 10.0.0.30/24 to any -> ($oif) block out log quick on $oif inet proto tcp from any to any port 43 pass log (all) on $oif pass out quick on $oif all I test vnet jail by issuing ping 8.8.8.8 and get "time to live exceeded" message. ping 10.0.10.2 get all lost packets normal message. Is there some other way to test vnet jails from the host to verify they are working? There will come a time when I will need to test vnet jails from the public internet. Its easy to enable ssh on the vnet jail and then use some other isp to ssh into the vnet jail. What would be the syntax of the remote ssh command to do this? It's my understanding that vnet jails have their own network stack which means there is no interaction with the hosts network stack. Which also means there is no vnet firewall interaction with the hosts firewall. Is this correct? Since I want all my vnet jails to access the public internet, can their epair just be added to a single bridge as another member or does each one need it's own bridge? How is public internet traffic targeted to an individual vnet jail running on the host? Thanks for your help on this. 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Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=llzh=nx=vega.codepro.be=kp@codepro.be) Received: from venus.codepro.be (venus.codepro.be [IPv6:2a01:4f8:162:1127::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.codepro.be", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0ECC7850E8; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=llzh=nx=vega.codepro.be=kp@codepro.be) Received: from vega.codepro.be (unknown [172.16.1.3]) by venus.codepro.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E768A9D; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 10:19:37 +0100 (CET) Received: by vega.codepro.be (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 119591D2D1; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 10:19:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 10:19:37 +0100 From: Kristof Provost To: Ernie Luzar Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 12.0-beta3 pf firewall NAT rule syntax for vnet jail using pf Message-ID: <20181112091936.GA73897@vega.codepro.be> References: <5BE5CE9D.9030503@gmail.com> <5BE86041.9070900@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[kristof@sigsegv.be,srs0=llzh=nx=vega.codepro.be=kp@codepro.be]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[sigsegv.be : SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM, none] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:19:40 -0000 On 2018-11-11 12:00:49 (-0500), Ernie Luzar wrote: > Kristof Provost wrote: > > > > If so, how can the jail see the vge0 interface? > > Through the bridge? I don't really know. Just guessing. > Think of vnet jails as separate machines. There's no mechanism for pf hosts to exchange that sort of information between machines, so there's no mechanism for them to exchange that between host and vnet jail. In this case your nat rule simply won't do anything, because the vge0 interface does not exist in the jail. > I added pass to the pf nat rule so inbound packets that match entry in > state table get passed automatically. > > Now using this pf nat rule > nat pass on epair2b from 10.0.0.30/24 to any -> (epair2b) > > This is the ifconfig -a on the host after the vnet jail is started. > Your bridge doesn't have an IP address. How do you expect to route traffic arriving on that interface? To be frank, you seem to be very confused on general networking concepts. I'd advise you to study those first, because you're going to keep struggling until you grasp the fundamentals of how IP works. Best regards, Kristof From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 12 09:25:06 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D68110061F for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk (outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk [95.142.156.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69932856FF for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:25:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk (unknown [82.71.56.121]) (Authenticated sender: mailpool@milibyte.co.uk) by outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A2DFD2613B8EF; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:24:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (helo=curlew.localnet) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gM8Sm-0001pX-Ju; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:24:56 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Steven Friedrich Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:24:56 +0000 Message-ID: <5125507.mMMZhaHaU6@curlew> In-Reply-To: <4702617.YNO7O01DYZ@freebsd.friedrich.org> References: <4702617.YNO7O01DYZ@freebsd.friedrich.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mike@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Subject: Re: Video acceleration? 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[snip] > Why don't I have Accelerated: Yes ??? > What am I missing? You probably need to use the kms driver from ports (graphics/drm-next-kmod) instead of base. https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/how-to-use-the-old-or-the-new-i915kms-driver-for-intel-integrated-graphics-with-xorg.66732/ Or https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybs22hq5 if that link gets broken in transit with line breaks -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 12 09:31:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DD9110081A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@archdeco.jp) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1091685B21 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@archdeco.jp) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id C6F011100818; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CC81100816 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@archdeco.jp) Received: from sv3076.xserver.jp (sv3076.xserver.jp [202.254.234.77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2995B85B11 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@archdeco.jp) Received: from virusgw2401.xserver.jp (virusgw2401.xserver.jp [202.254.232.243]) by sv3076.xserver.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2B8112C636EA for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 18:22:04 +0900 (JST) Received: from sv3076.xserver.jp (202.254.234.77) by virusgw2401.xserver.jp (F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/521/virusgw2401.xserver.jp); Mon, 12 Nov 2018 18:22:00 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: clean(F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/521/virusgw2401.xserver.jp) Received: from WIN-2LPEFJ7HNBJ (ec2-52-199-66-0.ap-northeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com [52.199.66.0]) by sv3076.xserver.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 80F97115B285A4 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 18:22:04 +0900 (JST) From: "Charles Mayiga" Subject: AN INVESTMENT OFFER. 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[65.25.48.31]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id c10-v6sm5080634itc.2.2018.11.12.07.22.56 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Nov 2018 07:22:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5BE99AD0.1010105@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 10:22:56 -0500 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kristof Provost CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 12.0-beta3 pf firewall NAT rule syntax for vnet jail using pf References: <5BE5CE9D.9030503@gmail.com> <5BE86041.9070900@gmail.com> <20181112091936.GA73897@vega.codepro.be> In-Reply-To: <20181112091936.GA73897@vega.codepro.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: DA87472C70 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.80 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-2.80)[ip: (-9.03), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.93), asn: 15169(-1.96), country: US(-0.09)]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.3.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.987,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 15:22:58 -0000 Kristof Provost wrote: > On 2018-11-11 12:00:49 (-0500), Ernie Luzar wrote: >> Kristof Provost wrote: >>> If so, how can the jail see the vge0 interface? >> Through the bridge? I don't really know. Just guessing. >> > Think of vnet jails as separate machines. There's no mechanism for pf > hosts to exchange that sort of information between machines, so there's > no mechanism for them to exchange that between host and vnet jail. > > In this case your nat rule simply won't do anything, because the vge0 > interface does not exist in the jail. > >> I added pass to the pf nat rule so inbound packets that match entry in >> state table get passed automatically. >> >> Now using this pf nat rule >> nat pass on epair2b from 10.0.0.30/24 to any -> (epair2b) >> >> This is the ifconfig -a on the host after the vnet jail is started. >> > Your bridge doesn't have an IP address. How do you expect to route > traffic arriving on that interface? > > To be frank, you seem to be very confused on general networking > concepts. I'd advise you to study those first, because you're going to > keep struggling until you grasp the fundamentals of how IP works. > > Best regards, > Kristof > I am shocked by your reply. For someone who has a prestigious position as a freebsd developer you should know that this kind of unfriendly reply is NOT what is expected on Freebsd lists. I find your remark insulting and belittling. Other Freebsd core members have been removed for expressing this same type of camouflaged derogatory marks. Shame on you, you should know better. The questions are specific to vnet jails with bridge/epair. The model being employed is what is available from internet documentation as the Freebsd handbook is void of any vnet info. A person in your position should already be aware of these facts. In 12.0 vnet has been upgraded to production status and the pf firewall repaired to function inside of a vnet jail. These new functions are not documented any where so of course questions are going to be asked for help. In all my reading about vnet jails I have never seen an example of the bridge having a ip address assigned directly to it. Only the epair assigned to the vnet jail has an ip address. You can redeem your bad behavior by answering the questions and adding a complete working vnet jail using pf firewall with bridge/pair to the 12.0 release /usr/share/examples/jails so there will be some documentation of these new production features available with 12.0 release when its published. You can not just make changes to the system and not document them. I'm willing to chalk this up to you having a bad day and I caught the ricochet. Lets just move forward. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 12 19:22:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158FF110F4A7 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 19:22:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@unitedvodka.com) Received: from forward4.bravehost.com (forward4.bravehost.com [65.39.211.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 165DF7F2A5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 19:22:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@unitedvodka.com) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bravehost.com Received: from atoulouse-653-1-544-14.w109-220.abo.wanadoo.fr (atoulouse-653-1-544-14.w109-220.abo.wanadoo.fr [109.220.111.14]) (Authenticated sender: info@bulrusunion.com) by forward4.bravehost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA6A5C00 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:12:51 -0800 (PST) From: "Elena Saubanova" Subject: PLEASE, HELP US TO SAVE MARTHA AND MAYA To: "freebsd-questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: "Elena Saubanova" Organization: GIVE HOPE TO A DOG foundation Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 20:12:57 +0100 Priority: urgent X-Priority: 1 Importance: high X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 165DF7F2A5 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [7.86 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[info@doghope.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:65.39.211.0/24]; REPLYTO_DN_EQ_FROM_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail1.bravehost.com]; SUBJ_ALL_CAPS(2.93)[39]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[71.211.39.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_X_PRIO_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13768, ipnet:65.39.208.0/22, country:CA]; IP_SCORE(0.12)[asn: 13768(0.68), country: CA(-0.10)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.81)[0.807,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[unitedvodka.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.981,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MANY_INVISIBLE_PARTS(0.05)[1]; MISSING_MID(2.50)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.89)[0.891,0]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spam: Yes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 19:22:40 -0000 =20 Urgent help needed for MARTHA AND MAYA!=20 =20 =20 MARTHA AND MAYA ARE STILL IN KENNEL! =20 =20 =20 =20 SAVE MARTHA AND MAYA GIVE HOPE TO A DOG FOUNDATION =20 =20 =20 Dear colleauges,=20 Please, help us to fnd an organisation, which can help our foundation = to raise money for Bulgarian stray dogs. 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MARTHA AND MAYA NEED YOUR HELP. www.doghope.com =20 HELP NOW =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Nov 12 21:39:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF4B1123F73 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 21:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 722B4856D3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 21:39:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id wACLdVP2060953 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:39:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Subject: Re: upgrade 10.3 to 11.2? From: Gary Aitken To: FreeBSD Mailing List Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org, freebsd@dreamchaser.org References: <278e9c07-ec53-546f-7d3e-5f3fef698cc4@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:38:31 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <278e9c07-ec53-546f-7d3e-5f3fef698cc4@dreamchaser.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:39:31 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 722B4856D3 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.88 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.956,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.964,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[nightmare.dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.64)[-0.635,0]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 21:39:40 -0000 On 11/10/18 21:20, Gary Aitken wrote: > Being a bit slow, I neglected to upgrade from 10.3-RELEASE-p29 to 10.4 > and 10.4 went eol while I was out of the country... ... Thanks all for the replies. For various reasons I've decided to do a fresh install, but to a new disk, mainly to change the partitioning. So my next question is, having put an 11.2 image on a usb stick, and having partitioned the disk, is there a way to install from the usb stick to the new disk while running 10.3 from another disk? Or do I need to cease normal work and boot the usb stick? It wasn't clear to me whether or not this was possible from the bsdinstall man page. Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 06:46:52 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0321106070 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 06:46:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9367375801 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 06:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from freebsd.friedrich.org ([74.132.25.214]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id MST7g80qnceP9MST9gHZ58; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 06:46:39 +0000 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Video acceleration? Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 01:46:36 -0500 Message-ID: <39586272.F463k0L8Pm@freebsd.friedrich.org> In-Reply-To: <4702617.YNO7O01DYZ@freebsd.friedrich.org> References: <4702617.YNO7O01DYZ@freebsd.friedrich.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfAypEd5IVvhQ/87AjNyFtEm4CzzNTzLm39gz+XxivyoB76G/TX1iFw3Vg2Aw+4A0IPSPO3FLY8/SVUS9YpDcKaObxeC9aIr474i+vHxWGNHYwKhEUVWE PcOualMscxy+CoPQr0tKOIVUu4nBWb3T9xPPhMSMvN3+XR3vRpsyYl8fbMT1J5JzqlQrI3COu+YJFw== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9367375801 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.87 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[twc.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.87)[-0.872,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[twc.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[twc.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.91)[-0.907,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[dnvrco-cmedge01.email.rr.com,dnvrco-cmedge02.email.rr.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.27)[-0.265,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[230.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[214.25.132.74.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; CTE_CASE(0.50)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 06:46:52 -0000 On Friday, 9 November 2018 11:33:40 EST Steven Friedrich wrote: > I am running 11.2-RELEASE on an HP Slimline with an i7, which has UHD 630 > graphics (Kaby Lake). > > I load in /etc/rc.conf: > kld_list="/boot/modules/i915_kbl_dmc_ver1_04_bin.ko /boot/modules/ > i915_kbl_guc_ver9_14_bin.ko /boot/modules/i915_kbl_huc_ver02_00_bin.ko" > > glxinfo reports: > name of display: :0 > display: :0 screen: 0 > direct rendering: Yes > server glx vendor string: SGI > server glx version string: 1.4 > > client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI > client glx version string: 1.4 > > GLX version: 1.4 > > Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer): > Vendor: VMware, Inc. (0xffffffff) > Device: llvmpipe (LLVM 6.0, 256 bits) (0xffffffff) > Version: 18.1.9 > Accelerated: no > Video memory: 16384MB > Unified memory: no > Preferred profile: core (0x1) > Max core profile version: 3.3 > Max compat profile version: 3.1 > Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1 > Max GLES[23] profile version: 3.0 > > Why don't I have Accelerated: Yes ??? > What am I missing? > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" When I try to use the modesetting driver, X looks for /dev/dri/card0 which doesn't exist. How do I make it exist? I thought the i915kms driver would create it. 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Tue, 13 Nov 2018 10:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87E757E68A for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 10:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Long Term support versions? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 03:50:16 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 87E757E68A X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.51 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.84)[-0.841,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.902,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.08)[asn: 209(-0.29), country: US(-0.09)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.covisp.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.26)[-0.264,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 10:50:25 -0000 Am I missing something? I've read = but don't see = anything about doing term support, unless the less than 3 years of = stable/11 is supposed to be the LTS version? And 11,2 is the only current version I see = , but it is marked = to be EOLed at 11.3 +3month so where is a stable release that will have = a longer support window? I'm still dealing with a bit of fallout from moving from 11.1 to 11.2, = so I a already not looking forward to having to move into 11.3 within 3 = months of release to continue getting ports support. --=20 I WILL NOT BARF UNLESS I'M SICK Bart chalkboard Ep. 8F15 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 11:16:12 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3578F11213DD for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 11:16:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7795B7F89F for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 11:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1542107772; x=1544699772; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=Y/e7ZKXqoDcow5VZtfS8NtYLKoRTER9bhL0XIHa+jqg=; b=s5mT4GxUdeynjxp6CfIvNpk5u2zgaO/6AJbb0mNh8Hp2+vRX1nieCQuJI6XvIj7syuGSacviwua4BlR6ZbT8RMf7AHuZgTRl3dLPftuziHyCO3rkvwHYytSyJcOsriRVtoYCrEc3MX7C1wJBlXKfVtlOzHh82VB71S94YfqLAKc= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOWYwMDAwMDIyNDg1MTQuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 13 Nov 2018 06:16:00 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 13 Nov 2018 06:15:59 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gMWfk-000CH8-QK; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 11:15:56 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 11:15:56 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: "@lbutlr" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Long Term support versions? 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There isn't one, at least not until 11. whatever may be (I'd guess 3 or 4 but that's just my guess), that will remain supported until September 2021 which may be long enough for 12. to arrive. I'd like to think that, ultimately, tracking n. will become a viable strategy. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 11:55:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8EB1121FA6 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 11:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta03.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7CCA809AC for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 11:55:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from localhost ([96.28.161.151]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id MXHbgwphkVpvIMXHdgNh1w; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 11:55:06 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 11:52:30 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Program to find CPU temperature? X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfO7PEKWRBPRAcaIH1zvHUsLxdEK1bRE5MrVd4Zd3ki/yDyJdf0yS97SeuJu0r7wfsbM4aqr/d/fKLheOJNkps4Nq+OTzIBVP/zuDEooQCR90iyOj/BTx 736f9Cy5IDF1CQHvNkmwqhq9uKdGV5CDly7g5z3brP90UHF/DmisGQXn8oO4CWcJKgasT+ldmP+MCw== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B7CCA809AC X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.33 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.64)[0.638,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[twc.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[twc.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.53)[0.532,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.01)[-0.006,0]; MISSING_MID(2.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: dnvrco-cmedge01.email.rr.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[230.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[151.161.28.96.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[twc.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 11:55:08 -0000 I am looking for a program to find the CPU and perhaps system temperature, either in base system or ports. I tried "sysctl -a | grep "temp" (or temperature) and couldn't find anything. NetBSD has envstat in base system: Current CritMax WarnMax WarnMin CritMin Unit [acpifan0] state: FALSE [acpifan1] state: FALSE [acpifan2] state: TRUE [acpifan3] state: FALSE [acpifan4] state: FALSE [acpitz0] temperature: 27.800 106.000 degC [acpitz1] cpu0/cpu1/cpu2/cpu3/cpu4/cpu5/c: 29.800 106.000 degC [coretemp0] cpu0 temperature: 56.000 degC [coretemp1] cpu1 temperature: 59.000 degC [coretemp2] cpu2 temperature: 57.000 degC [coretemp3] cpu3 temperature: 55.000 degC but there appears to be nothing like that in FreeBSD. This is the computer without the overheating problem. Other computer, with the overheating problem, makes me wonder if the heatsink itself, as opposed to the CPU fan, is no longer functional. Otherwise, perhaps something could be going amiss on the CPU or motherboard. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 12:12:09 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350EB1122E85 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (ipq210.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 096B9813F3 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C301C1671B; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:11:53 +0900 (JST) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost-backdoor.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFCF32306; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:11:53 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 552CA32305; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:11:52 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:11:25 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20181113.211125.647273635798897005.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Program to find CPU temperature? From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: <20181113115855.208372A00A5@sv.hiroma.net> References: <20181113115855.208372A00A5@sv.hiroma.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 096B9813F3 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.50 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.92)[-0.918,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:spf-authorized.utahime.org]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[utahime.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.92)[-0.920,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(0.29)[asn: 2519(1.55), country: JP(-0.10)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.utahime.org,mx2.utahime.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.14)[-0.144,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2519, ipnet:183.180.0.0/16, country:JP]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:12:09 -0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" Subject: Program to find CPU temperature? Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 11:52:30 +0000 > I am looking for a program to find the CPU and perhaps system temperature, either in base system or ports. > > I tried "sysctl -a | grep "temp" (or temperature) and couldn't find anything. If your architecture is amd64 or i386, either amdtemp(4) or coretemp(4) may be what you are looking for. --- Yasuhiro KIMURA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 12:14:11 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8251123052 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from dd14614.kasserver.com (dd14614.kasserver.com [85.13.136.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5265F814D6 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-en@lists.vlassakakis.de) Received: from [172.29.0.116] (unknown [193.169.77.230]) by dd14614.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6118943C05A1; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:08:36 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Program to find CPU temperature? From: Philipp Vlassakakis X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16B92) In-Reply-To: <20181113115901.DB2A243C26E2@dd14614.kasserver.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:08:35 +0100 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20181113115901.DB2A243C26E2@dd14614.kasserver.com> To: Thomas Mueller X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5265F814D6 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.87 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.84)[-0.839,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: DE(-0.01)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[vlassakakis.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.27)[0.271,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.94)[-0.945,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: lists.vlassakakis.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[14.136.13.85.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[twc.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34788, ipnet:85.13.136.0/24, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:14:11 -0000 Hi, Did you load the corresponding kernel module? (coretemp =3D Intel CPU / amdt= emp =3D AMD CPU) It should be possible to fetch the temperature via sysctl. Regards, Philipp > On 13. Nov 2018, at 12:52, Thomas Mueller wrote: >=20 > I am looking for a program to find the CPU and perhaps system temperature,= either in base system or ports. >=20 > I tried "sysctl -a | grep "temp" (or temperature) and couldn't find anythi= ng. >=20 > NetBSD has envstat in base system: >=20 > Current CritMax WarnMax WarnMin Cr= itMin Unit > [acpifan0] > state: FALSE > [acpifan1] > state: FALSE > [acpifan2] > state: TRUE > [acpifan3] > state: FALSE > [acpifan4] > state: FALSE > [acpitz0] > temperature: 27.800 106.000 = degC > [acpitz1] > cpu0/cpu1/cpu2/cpu3/cpu4/cpu5/c: 29.800 106.000 = degC > [coretemp0] > cpu0 temperature: 56.000 = degC > [coretemp1] > cpu1 temperature: 59.000 = degC > [coretemp2] > cpu2 temperature: 57.000 = degC > [coretemp3] > cpu3 temperature: 55.000 = degC >=20 >=20 > but there appears to be nothing like that in FreeBSD. >=20 > This is the computer without the overheating problem. Other computer, wit= h the overheating problem, makes me wonder if the heatsink itself, as oppose= d to the CPU fan, is no longer functional. >=20 > Otherwise, perhaps something could be going amiss on the CPU or motherboar= d. >=20 > Tom >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 12:18:13 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A36112327C for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9077981774 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Long Term support versions? Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 05:18:10 -0700 References: <20181113111556.f5870a43fbb1fe38db2a9df2@sohara.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20181113111556.f5870a43fbb1fe38db2a9df2@sohara.org> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9077981774 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.03 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.73)[-0.727,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.88)[-0.875,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.08)[asn: 209(-0.28), country: US(-0.09)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.covisp.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.11)[0.114,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:18:13 -0000 On 13 Nov 2018, at 04:15, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 03:50:16 -0700 "@lbutlr" = wrote: >> And 11,2 is the only current version I see >> , but it is = marked >> to be EOLed at 11.3 +3month so where is a stable release that will = have a >> longer support window? >=20 > There isn't one, at least not until 11. whatever = may > be (I'd guess 3 or 4 but that's just my guess), that will remain = supported > until September 2021 which may be long enough for 12. to = arrive. I'd > like to think that, ultimately, tracking n. will become a = viable > strategy. IIRC, this has not been the case in the past. Certainly all support for = 10.x expired long before 11.2-RELEASE and we're quite a long way from = 11-FINAL. I don't think it was true of v4-9 either, but my memory on = that is not necessarily reliable. I ran v3.2-RELEASE for a long time, = but almost certainly far beyond its support window (I updated to 4.5 and = then 4.11 which I kept for years). Having a predefined end-date for support on 11.x is odd when there's no = final version. It seems that 11-FINAL should be supported for a period = of time based on either when 11-FINALE comes out or until 12-FINAL plus = a year or something. I mean, it's great that people are bing encouraged to update, but it's = at the cost of stability. My impression of the Linux world is that LTS windows are increasing = while FreeBSD is not. (Just an impression, I'm not using Linux, but I am = pretty sure a friend is using Mint with a 5 year LTS version). --=20 AUDITORS OF REALITY. THEY THINK OF LIFE AS A STAIN ON THE UNIVERSE. A PESTILENCE. MESSY. GETTING IN THE WAY. 'In the way of what?' THE EFFICIENT RUNNING OF THE UNIVERSE. 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I'd like to think that, ultimately, tracking n. will > > become a viable strategy. > > IIRC, this has not been the case in the past. Certainly all support for > 10.x expired long before 11.2-RELEASE and we're quite a long way from That is true, but the current support model is new. Looking back over the release history it's very hard to guess when 11. might happen 3 or 4 seems likely but the lifespan of a major release seems to vary from two and a half years to nearly four. I'm hoping for it to work out that way, but it certainly hasn't been stated as a policy. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 13:23:14 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67D51124E45 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:23:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42e.google.com (mail-wr1-x42e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E07CC840D4 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.mehler@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x42e.google.com with SMTP id p4so4118213wrt.7 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 05:23:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=5CuRSf92HO/YmCHTI2z/7XqvGJbYIr4FgBsmvrOpXbo=; b=X1zA0b+ME8dvO6kmnO5RLpgGVD1LQcYwutzj7KurENVAJt8vp4aXtCsKS+QPpC+fuu Wi4S7K8MHxGhUdV+sovVDYnGKqB0BvvOKWjpXdyh/RjauBvxcr8fgwqPd//BHEre6OdQ WJO7BFw9vcbR6cXBSEkkPii3jUK23yuhpmA6HjcYgyuRR8oD64jGKZCnajejud60Xuz7 5VzqWUstlmWG6OLlqucm7FabOySx2cPgpW/bm0harcYwhk6zKhnOtXwry/Ta3g2P/S6U H7JplfLJXXfBOjwFnms7+HNkHYxarGltQJBz3EnMhDWqQcDmRd5AvS+OV72S5lZXUlsn DpXg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=5CuRSf92HO/YmCHTI2z/7XqvGJbYIr4FgBsmvrOpXbo=; b=SanlK0s5JVKKEPLvvvNBvcvIcRiv0sKREaWIPCZS2dX3FIoTF4glbgqMlk1HtUAHye 4UB4AwwX5QZpI2YxxyHVfRHv0dzfSxP1xZ4IRorJXwH684z3bG8IvG8ovEEucVb/f++p xz5qU2feWVVSIBBXuGz0XR6bw+be1JybPq8VzOK0NaMR3qeju0npGDQ/AC5cVBZ+9WOA 7sd/LmPO9sY8KgTYLbxlA2WUqi5aOLfgsqdwu4VWj05Ny+GWBj6baDwMoj28vTyTANgQ dRdZgwwwhBRIgn9vjW/g8C8yIG773olypRwsVCH/Sqs8Sk03+XMemcfAW93eigsDUaU5 3Q5g== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gIACfR4f9hHZ/cSuhtgclswyrfHl+Ee1fG5gLibkE/kOR97Ne2W MckOT+J7Wz3nuja3ntO/co756x9nPPyOgrd+f7JrFEQI X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5exzGrnhgcpIWc/GT4S3VVmt3VLSu9znewCLA1r7rbh9qE5ZBo9bC3YsgZiJq42jqakbHxF8urAewfHSJ9TyXY= X-Received: by 2002:adf:8361:: with SMTP id 88-v6mr5197929wrd.192.1542115392376; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 05:23:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:adf:fc91:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 05:23:11 -0800 (PST) From: David Mehler Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:23:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: disable password change prompt notifications To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E07CC840D4 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.76 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; IP_SCORE(-0.82)[ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.04), asn: 15169(-1.96), country: US(-0.09)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[e.2.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.936,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:23:15 -0000 Hello, Running Fbsd 11.x. I am getting warning your password will expire on x day, and that day is 2 and a half weeks away. This happens both on login and when I use the su command. I'd like to suppress these password change warnings or at least make them only go off say 3 days prior to a mandatory password chage. Any help appreciated. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 13:48:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F881125945 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D3FC84C6C for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:48:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Long Term support versions? Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 06:48:07 -0700 References: <20181113111556.f5870a43fbb1fe38db2a9df2@sohara.org> <20181113130504.ce9045901a6c838aee60bc19@sohara.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20181113130504.ce9045901a6c838aee60bc19@sohara.org> Message-Id: <7B97FE27-E2AD-431F-A0A3-01FFF26BC121@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5D3FC84C6C X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.83 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.87)[-0.872,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.93)[-0.926,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.07)[asn: 209(-0.28), country: US(-0.09)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.covisp.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.12)[0.116,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:48:10 -0000 On 13 Nov 2018, at 06:05, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > 11. might happen 3 or 4 seems likely but the lifespan of a = major release seems to > vary from two and a half years to nearly four. 11.x already has an EOL date, and it is less than three years out and we = don't have a final version. By my count. the lifespan of 11.x is (Sep = 2021 - Release date of 11-FINAL). --=20 The true prize was control. Lord Vetinari knew that. When heavy weights were balanced on the scales, the trick was to know where to place your thumb. --The Fifth Elephant From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 13:50:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5111125A11 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B91B84D45 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: disable password change prompt notifications Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 06:49:59 -0700 References: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <2D6248FE-49A6-4C32-AF8B-15BABCBA436A@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5B91B84D45 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.13 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.80)[-0.800,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.83)[-0.829,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.covisp.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.24)[0.245,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.07)[asn: 209(-0.28), country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:50:01 -0000 On 13 Nov 2018, at 06:23, David Mehler wrote: > I'd like to suppress these password change warnings or at least make = them only go off say 3 days > prior to a mandatory password chage. Why are you forcing password changes? This is a well-known security = downgrade. --=20 A is for AMY who fell down the stairs B is for BASIL assaulted by bears From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 13:58:01 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C234211260F0 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A0EB85705 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1542117481; x=1544709481; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=xhlYCDPFUKlbwYRrNYPP4sluLb258BCQsbDJRaswdSA=; b=KRYOgk1dHCh4lAZWR+sJR7AN7KCXgyQAbhbDjGR28Ngd3TjZy+m0W2gmIY0IaV5tKTQ8L074LETbCJ4YJFnj8KcMeY4S8jde3EVD330+9NupQAaHL0Zs3r9WiTjU7TBv5rTSys14BITfotvqVP7s9NkjEZ+0kRpHDvARbp0u4iw= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOWYwMDAwMDIyNmNjNjMuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [52.5.202.82]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:57:53 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:57:52 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gMZCQ-000Cu8-V2; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:57:50 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:57:50 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: "@lbutlr" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Long Term support versions? 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By my count. the lifespan of 11.x is (Sep > 2021 - Release date of 11-FINAL). Yes but what we don't have any real idea about is when to expect 12. apart from less than five years from next month. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 14:15:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9FB1126AAD for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 14:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com (mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FF66863DF for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 14:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@gmail.com) Received: by mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com with SMTP id n140-v6so5433912yba.1 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 06:15:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=tsaXZZLVBmyDg5dMvnyN9bM3ronL4YpHJGZM+SZp+fQ=; b=YSOhgzdkmweXQ3/ifk1ugElP1+dhjlrEwh0vu0Ji9cB3h9LcuFCytx/hQpw7Jnt048 zPzfWmoJGjaHGyLVrCVNRNmvFy+Mh8T5OI5zlP9+75zRPjtPk0RChaxfdDKfKC4i/I4K r611n2Oj+lX/pDvlCp+cy8c1yEWFsRgi2mwWgUFfowipwYy5PVvXD3Gp+lcdBqqOdHEu YzjuOjyW1kLc48at9AlDfiZRyWQrkepAODc9VhZeUCOOGZIJB1Izu4Hg3OTFPHdN7NVL ope0/MjEpcMrJe8F1BvktpfJBebTGluMuaaN3YjBDpVigrdVnIzevw3tLa1Nk5WiIz6Q OAcQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tsaXZZLVBmyDg5dMvnyN9bM3ronL4YpHJGZM+SZp+fQ=; b=VW9dWaDZU5PSjTvWZWFGwXFYDhgiSTVKoyX4HzkmWc7ZRNwU3LWqGh0vKnEhxjXCBm 25YmpvDFJe94mnYpWoLP30Fot1bqZIQ2c/5wPGIKfkYbbTrUBeJzJUwZs5W9EEdlM5zH CEoFRAIucDmQaVloNVI30EiTqsf+SeMe50HlsSD33ZeiyEjoFJK4S2DSjHwSo++5GACl oqy1XGAsuJ1P5Mur9U0TYw5t5E7o13mrIgSO/T9L0M8uVvQfX9khYsTSqcXLLSdccwJT fM3D+4Vwup6u7sp71lnQ9JvVD6Ib505YlTMQXpc4dtmzUS+EdnTCzR0Eos1s2iOnz97C FRTg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLkmdzvdUgfC3BVwyXon3eXC4jzjQ0Pod/x59TRwh5TtcZ1/4aL IvA5Guf9p/ihi+2J4SnBvQis7mmMvnvoe0OirVk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5d1it47L31r7UTudWHy93XSo3S81iVJ8bRvi5XUwKZVkGseh2djVkKXZahn2HyS5iRRcoNY01ZNRP3W+0xeTGk= X-Received: by 2002:a25:cb10:: with SMTP id b16-v6mr5144561ybg.422.1542118502315; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 06:15:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a25:8542:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 06:15:01 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: feenberg@nber.org In-Reply-To: References: From: Daniel Feenberg Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 09:15:01 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: disable password change prompt notifications To: David Mehler Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6FF66863DF X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.78 / 200.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[feenberg@nber.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.99)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.88), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.09)]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.78)[-0.783,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.b.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 14:15:04 -0000 On 11/13/18, David Mehler wrote: > Hello, > > Running Fbsd 11.x. I am getting warning your password will expire on x > day, and that day is 2 and a half weeks away. This happens both on > login and when I use the su command. I'd like to suppress these > password change warnings or at least make them only go off say 3 days > prior to a mandatory password chage. > _______________________________________________ Try "man passwd" and look for the "-w" option, but seriously we should be getting away from forced changes - they fill a much needed gap. Consider this recommendation: Verifiers SHOULD NOT require memorized secrets to be changed arbitrarily (e.g., periodically). from the NIST Guidlines: https://pages.nist.gov/800-63-3/sp800-63b.html#sec10 Daniel Feenberg NBER From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 14:29:13 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A4E11270D4 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 14:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@pochta-mx.canmos.ru) Received: from pochta-mx.canmos.ru (pochta-mx.canmos.ru [89.107.127.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B72B986B05 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 14:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@pochta-mx.canmos.ru) Received: from pochta-mx.canmos.ru (pochta-mx.canmos.ru [89.107.127.240]) by pochta-mx.canmos.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8111C2DBB757; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 17:22:19 +0300 (MSK) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2-pochta_20120910 (2011-06-06) on pochta.canmos.ru X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2-pochta_20120910 Received: from pochta-mx.canmos.ru (pochta-mx.canmos.ru [89.107.127.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by pochta-mx.canmos.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 17:22:19 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 17:22:19 +0300 (MSK) From: "Igor V. Ruzanov" X-X-Sender: igorr@pochta.canmos.ru To: Thomas Mueller cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Program to find CPU temperature? In-Reply-To: <20181113115825.80447.qmail@mail.canmos.ru> Message-ID: References: <20181113115825.80447.qmail@mail.canmos.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-GPG-PUBLIC-KEY: 1024D/F433BDD5 2009-06-17 Igor V. Ruzanov X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: 5030 C793 4238 FAFF 827F 0E99 FDCE 63DD F433 BDD5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B72B986B05 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.70 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.78)[-0.777,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.40)[0.403,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.91)[-0.911,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[canmos.ru]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: pochta-mx.canmos.ru]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[twc.com]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:39821, ipnet:89.107.120.0/21, country:RU]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: RU(-0.01)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 14:29:13 -0000 The modern way to check CPU temperatures (mostly for Xeon-based servers), its just to load kernel module 'coretemp': kldload coretemp And see the temperatures via sysctl interface: sysctl -a | grep tempe dev.cpu.0.temperature: 31.0C dev.cpu.1.temperature: 31.0C dev.cpu.2.temperature: 33.0C dev.cpu.3.temperature: 33.0C dev.cpu.4.temperature: 29.0C dev.cpu.5.temperature: 29.0C dev.cpu.6.temperature: 32.0C dev.cpu.7.temperature: 32.0C dev.cpu.8.temperature: 30.0C dev.cpu.9.temperature: 30.0C dev.cpu.10.temperature: 29.0C dev.cpu.11.temperature: 29.0C dev.cpu.12.temperature: 22.0C dev.cpu.13.temperature: 22.0C dev.cpu.14.temperature: 22.0C dev.cpu.15.temperature: 22.0C dev.cpu.16.temperature: 22.0C dev.cpu.17.temperature: 22.0C dev.cpu.18.temperature: 24.0C dev.cpu.19.temperature: 24.0C dev.cpu.20.temperature: 24.0C dev.cpu.21.temperature: 24.0C dev.cpu.22.temperature: 28.0C dev.cpu.23.temperature: 28.0C |I am looking for a program to find the CPU and perhaps system temperature, either in base system or ports. | |I tried "sysctl -a | grep "temp" (or temperature) and couldn't find anything. | |NetBSD has envstat in base system: | | Current CritMax WarnMax WarnMin CritMin Unit |[acpifan0] | state: FALSE |[acpifan1] | state: FALSE |[acpifan2] | state: TRUE |[acpifan3] | state: FALSE |[acpifan4] | state: FALSE |[acpitz0] | temperature: 27.800 106.000 degC |[acpitz1] | cpu0/cpu1/cpu2/cpu3/cpu4/cpu5/c: 29.800 106.000 degC |[coretemp0] | cpu0 temperature: 56.000 degC |[coretemp1] | cpu1 temperature: 59.000 degC |[coretemp2] | cpu2 temperature: 57.000 degC |[coretemp3] | cpu3 temperature: 55.000 degC | | |but there appears to be nothing like that in FreeBSD. | |This is the computer without the overheating problem. Other computer, with the overheating problem, makes me wonder if the heatsink itself, as opposed to the CPU fan, is no longer functional. | |Otherwise, perhaps something could be going amiss on the CPU or motherboard. | |Tom | |_______________________________________________ |freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list |https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions |To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" | From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 15:39:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F101112881E for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A7A6B043 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from slab.local (unknown [10.150.198.95]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B53471805D for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 09:38:52 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: disable password change prompt notifications To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2D6248FE-49A6-4C32-AF8B-15BABCBA436A@kreme.com> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 09:38:52 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2D6248FE-49A6-4C32-AF8B-15BABCBA436A@kreme.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A7A7A6B043 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.06 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.87)[-0.871,0]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.86)[-0.861,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.60)[0.595,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[kicp.uchicago.edu,cosmo.uchicago.edu]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:39:00 -0000 On 11/13/18 7:49 AM, @lbutlr wrote: > On 13 Nov 2018, at 06:23, David Mehler wrote: >> I'd like to suppress these password change warnings or at least make them only go off say 3 days >> prior to a mandatory password chage. > > Why are you forcing password changes? This is a well-known security downgrade. > Knowing from my own experience: because these days morons are ruling IT (Certification driven IT management hiring; MS certification overwhelmingly abundant). I soon will be made do similar things to be compliant to you already know by who handed down policies. Valeri From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 15:46:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8861128BAC for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta02.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 113AF6B4E3 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from freebsd.friedrich.org ([74.132.25.214]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id MatUgKTS5XEleMatXgjFHK; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:46:27 +0000 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Video acceleration? Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 10:46:24 -0500 Message-ID: <5166179.8gLySxXtyI@freebsd.friedrich.org> In-Reply-To: <39586272.F463k0L8Pm@freebsd.friedrich.org> References: <4702617.YNO7O01DYZ@freebsd.friedrich.org> <39586272.F463k0L8Pm@freebsd.friedrich.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfBDLIpuMdSNqZbkLUJ1IRe8hjbta/r2vQUxh2IfHtuX1ypsoe8KMLOOROduMhwSJJvdw8+0HNz8E71+MKyY/OSH3pdLWvKEeff/InE3djZgwQBQYzZYH TZm/x+GZbZSLP+1CP4+Ft1B2OXN8jmWegTBFkvcnOWWGEkLErqk5hbrY7l87A9jJjZaskqm0R1CfBw== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 113AF6B4E3 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.03 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[twc.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.89)[-0.895,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[twc.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[twc.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.91)[-0.914,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: dnvrco-cmedge01.email.rr.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.39)[-0.389,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[229.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[214.25.132.74.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; CTE_CASE(0.50)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:46:35 -0000 On Tuesday, 13 November 2018 01:46:36 EST Steven Friedrich wrote: > On Friday, 9 November 2018 11:33:40 EST Steven Friedrich wrote: > > I am running 11.2-RELEASE on an HP Slimline with an i7, which has UHD 630 > > graphics (Kaby Lake). > > > > I load in /etc/rc.conf: > > kld_list="/boot/modules/i915_kbl_dmc_ver1_04_bin.ko /boot/modules/ > > i915_kbl_guc_ver9_14_bin.ko /boot/modules/i915_kbl_huc_ver02_00_bin.ko" > > > > glxinfo reports: > > name of display: :0 > > display: :0 screen: 0 > > direct rendering: Yes > > server glx vendor string: SGI > > server glx version string: 1.4 > > > > client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI > > client glx version string: 1.4 > > > > GLX version: 1.4 > > > > Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer): > > Vendor: VMware, Inc. (0xffffffff) > > Device: llvmpipe (LLVM 6.0, 256 bits) (0xffffffff) > > Version: 18.1.9 > > Accelerated: no > > Video memory: 16384MB > > Unified memory: no > > Preferred profile: core (0x1) > > Max core profile version: 3.3 > > Max compat profile version: 3.1 > > Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1 > > Max GLES[23] profile version: 3.0 > > > > Why don't I have Accelerated: Yes ??? > > What am I missing? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > When I try to use the modesetting driver, X looks for /dev/dri/card0 which > doesn't exist. How do I make it exist? I thought the i915kms driver would > create it. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I'm confident that I have the correct i915kms and drm modules loaded kldstat -vn i915kms Id Refs Address Size Name 3 1 0xffffffff82c0d000 120c58 i915kms.ko (/boot/modules/i915kms.ko) Contains modules: Id Name root@FreeBSD:/home/steven # kldstat -vn drm Id Refs Address Size Name 4 1 0xffffffff82d2e000 74b70 drm.ko (/boot/modules/drm.ko) Contains modules: Id Name 505 drmn I also installed port gpu-firmware-kmod and I found the three files I need to load, i.e., /boot/modules/i915_kbl_dmc_ver1_01_bin.ko* or /boot/modules/i915_kbl_dmc_ver1_04_bin.ko* and /boot/modules/i915_kbl_guc_ver9_14_bin.ko* and /boot/modules/i915_kbl_huc_ver02_00_bin.ko* but I don't know hw to use them. Should they be loaded by rc.conf before the i915kms.ko or after? Or do I have to process them some other way? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 15:57:59 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28560112944A for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuripv@yuripv.net) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8962D6BC3A for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuripv@yuripv.net) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F2E21F79; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 10:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 13 Nov 2018 10:57:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yuripv.net; h= subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type; s=fm3; bh=B+vKu66ukhPJzuzuxXDJOhfDakv d9X86GqR1pAOKToc=; b=BEEJyrQOSzutCWEwCN+2PrMLqgiTI6AkamricvXrT7Y h6SvPuNeyNxQL6FEA3Sch5Pzq3zhmKkw7jj4BH5hAVnLetQOJeJtMHRE/yACcylX 7ABMOnP2lSJ53ByK5Q2kzq/sSkmS+nw6rP4lmLHTFYgdKFtGevzzK5dC5NEVya4/ XDLCuCE52tkrMfzR4Rep+2/Z66GwmGFFTKKO3d0YXk/5p76W0gFWhs7nF+AB5Ljn FANYC+7cbfv4LrsRpDZhKJo2qqWmYN2HQkS5VGPNMmLwyYRJx+0GEz8ItoK+q8hj 6fV2+0qdiohcyTzckeQj/Jfl4bhAY1/g61AjCTnWUxw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=B+vKu6 6ukhPJzuzuxXDJOhfDakvd9X86GqR1pAOKToc=; b=YJXuxqzxnzJuyp9fWEgTdA n2vO7D9OsVekDNak1XgGGkD/dD2Gr9w/LAfLys/YQgPWyx0Ogr7fx201SAcUGS59 K4hq4YW1M2iTpMHH1fIplUjJxCuOPJo+hBDnqD9lPcX8VggGnvFCuzts1G78qmpG 3+9W7bDqf0bl88daE4vHIjVUxbHzEoX/1rAZHVITNb013U3nOgGRl+Ti+7tUyVLV 0zp0YkNl2qJLtEh8zpugufdiuLHWV9ZcvTlxR9c0aFa8ZI+hFyABebm5OM0IIc+P 3F74iCqnpeGsGBGj85HSZ6V/E6JkECahog774dcnjF4sWZLmUV1Vq0FXGv7h9Phg == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy: Received: from thor.yuripv.net (unknown [178.34.126.111]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EDD30E40E6; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 10:57:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Video acceleration? To: Steven Friedrich , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4702617.YNO7O01DYZ@freebsd.friedrich.org> <39586272.F463k0L8Pm@freebsd.friedrich.org> <5166179.8gLySxXtyI@freebsd.friedrich.org> From: Yuri Pankov Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=yuripv@yuripv.net; keydata= xsBNBFu8u6IBCADB11gP0QwnorrHjqAtKLHKHNHskhy0s7jqJKfx0YqXgVBKGLJ9/mjLAz0F CBNvemHSDDTs0mEZ9cBKKi6cmsav6+UQgr//yai6hvXLBJqKchSFO4MhmdvBtsGFq1yKz5Zi uhjmimKyIpgBgvMdbgGbGq6cnSB2uEPmZuJr419SVRODOkXukU+F5WHgaHzDdHAIu1asCt2B +6msxqIqlFWcXyZyTGicTGGvC/PFIsVRUtD1dIJANTC876g7DTb7LZXWiWwJpSJ4GKMXMHVX Ct9BoQ4i3nhKbOxb6Io1wsy+NFyWsTJ9KYrxKKPJP3oG8BWb/cqlFqnE4eNSsiq2q7krABEB AAHNIFl1cmkgUGFua292IDx5dXJpcHZARnJlZUJTRC5vcmc+wsCUBBMBCgA+FiEE+Gq3PsPe LT4tL/9wk4vgf7Eq4WwFAlu9Cn0CGwMFCQWjmoAFCwkIBwMFFQoJCAsFFgMCAQACHgECF4AA CgkQk4vgf7Eq4WxuPQf9HccaDyusO1J+wDQNlp9/uU0cnIfjHAeG80xrAfN9Vnf1wO9T2/WI iYlIdK+KVnhSa/DeBuHq/asfpUbrOleTF0hzG39os+95DzuT9a/j5XeQGuBgNbpVB+10zR3I 5AagSQetHilcZtz65g9GTUuIxb+xDaBehFBjyYXApfNE6yY5IlzDZpM7MOOLLFm2mQwQ8yjS eZ4jA6qW6/QMXRTkmpC9EXIeWDuNgWBwszaFGR6oUIpl0mGmwdJkEKwUazt6OuoDilMNZefZ 0pVFZBhnE46vK+6FDDFZE3BkeHVnqvy2QGL/6uKhSHc0lChCEPHnhqz6v23MwcQ6ktVWzvBJ oM7ATQRbvLuiAQgAyood0Pd96wzY+GQPBYQUNkZZgYL8Di3AzyC94dFe4d/Mt/h4rIBUnFwA g7Ha05WGdW0V5A/RRxDcpwXL9Jf97hiQ5PI2hiAxNEz/DkAUafiGlPfwR5wKqysUyRiKJQ2o ctpvssdsoXXOgeLo1jA6ghda1jg/spjlsPlS5ZTpKx3GWuTybV/VDhmwKWZfGUzPBJeAgDTf BdW4PTFs1IvvC2KBlhnPgcLBUtTlAdXOEj4DLuXw+Fn7K/ckZdOn3aRANmE+wf4+f+UUgtLB NmbP7ZifyUX5RyddsnI+fZmtsUDHxCReNIWQ6TBUJmb21aoBIN6HEHJbY28ZSCmf5owuMwAR AQABwsB8BBgBCgAmFiEE+Gq3PsPeLT4tL/9wk4vgf7Eq4WwFAlu8u6ICGwwFCQWjmoAACgkQ k4vgf7Eq4WyA3AgAqgGTHKMVAS2WuNGuW9uI+YtY6ZbwmGG94fkOZbefgRSfO5Am+HSblA95 IdotvQa8VkFmvVjbnvaM8XmJG5H17m0GF3sVaJUbJ4euDnRrBPCr6KwRQQd83Svxkbdicvo7 J031FrkJZW8zD9DH4QgzJNTKPFrwx9v3DhD/8iyn9tGvnHepy7O24nY5hl6PacrgSgLVeir/ lUbueAC/gP1AWLv3gdw7b83J7rftWauimj/vpFMD8CDSyJNODgQ8DdM0TU4qjABWGMs9r2Rw QehNbYf5f/2QuW/Q5NGaRSNW2HS/cpp62XtTKmxj5wwk6EMbtNE/6WQpumfdmK2UGLjcJQ== Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 18:57:41 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5166179.8gLySxXtyI@freebsd.friedrich.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bc6OOYO0KOPq2eMsWcbiAQk7tTWE4F489" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8962D6BC3A X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.70 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+ip4:66.111.4.0/24]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yuripv.net:+,messagingengine.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[in2-smtp.messagingengine.com,in1-smtp.messagingengine.com,in2-smtp.messagingengine.com,in1-smtp.messagingengine.com]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[twc.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[111.126.34.178.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:66.111.0.0/20, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[29.4.111.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_XBL(3.00)[111.126.34.178.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.4]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(0.00)[yuripv.net,messagingengine.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/mixed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[yuripv.net]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.50)[ip: (-9.39), ipnet: 66.111.0.0/20(-4.11), asn: 11403(-3.91), country: US(-0.09)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:57:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --bc6OOYO0KOPq2eMsWcbiAQk7tTWE4F489 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="eXFIYBVQofr5UfhzzdHydwjQePQzgJ67i"; protected-headers="v1" From: Yuri Pankov To: Steven Friedrich , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Video acceleration? References: <4702617.YNO7O01DYZ@freebsd.friedrich.org> <39586272.F463k0L8Pm@freebsd.friedrich.org> <5166179.8gLySxXtyI@freebsd.friedrich.org> In-Reply-To: <5166179.8gLySxXtyI@freebsd.friedrich.org> --eXFIYBVQofr5UfhzzdHydwjQePQzgJ67i Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steven Friedrich wrote: > On Tuesday, 13 November 2018 01:46:36 EST Steven Friedrich wrote: >> On Friday, 9 November 2018 11:33:40 EST Steven Friedrich wrote: >>> I am running 11.2-RELEASE on an HP Slimline with an i7, which has UHD= 630 >>> graphics (Kaby Lake). >>> >>> I load in /etc/rc.conf: >>> kld_list=3D"/boot/modules/i915_kbl_dmc_ver1_04_bin.ko /boot/modules/ >>> i915_kbl_guc_ver9_14_bin.ko /boot/modules/i915_kbl_huc_ver02_00_bin.k= o" >>> >>> glxinfo reports: >>> name of display: :0 >>> display: :0 screen: 0 >>> direct rendering: Yes >>> server glx vendor string: SGI >>> server glx version string: 1.4 >>> >>> client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI >>> client glx version string: 1.4 >>> >>> GLX version: 1.4 >>> >>> Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer): >>> Vendor: VMware, Inc. (0xffffffff) >>> Device: llvmpipe (LLVM 6.0, 256 bits) (0xffffffff) >>> Version: 18.1.9 >>> Accelerated: no >>> Video memory: 16384MB >>> Unified memory: no >>> Preferred profile: core (0x1) >>> Max core profile version: 3.3 >>> Max compat profile version: 3.1 >>> Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1 >>> Max GLES[23] profile version: 3.0 >>> >>> Why don't I have Accelerated: Yes ??? >>> What am I missing? >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> When I try to use the modesetting driver, X looks for /dev/dri/card0 w= hich >> doesn't exist. How do I make it exist? I thought the i915kms driver = would >> create it. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebs= d.org" > I'm confident that I have the correct i915kms and drm modules loaded > kldstat -vn i915kms > Id Refs Address Size Name > 3 1 0xffffffff82c0d000 120c58 i915kms.ko (/boot/modules/i915kms.k= o) > Contains modules: > Id Name > root@FreeBSD:/home/steven # kldstat -vn drm > Id Refs Address Size Name > 4 1 0xffffffff82d2e000 74b70 drm.ko (/boot/modules/drm.ko) > Contains modules: > Id Name > 505 drmn >=20 > I also installed port gpu-firmware-kmod and I found the three files I n= eed to=20 > load, i.e.,=20 > /boot/modules/i915_kbl_dmc_ver1_01_bin.ko* or > /boot/modules/i915_kbl_dmc_ver1_04_bin.ko* and > /boot/modules/i915_kbl_guc_ver9_14_bin.ko* and > /boot/modules/i915_kbl_huc_ver02_00_bin.ko* > but I don't know hw to use them. >=20 > Should they be loaded by rc.conf before the i915kms.ko or after? > Or do I have to process them some other way? You need to load only the i915kms module, it will pull in all dependencies and binary blobs on its own. So it should be just the following instead of the line you had in the original message: kld_list=3D"/boot/modules/i915kms.ko" --eXFIYBVQofr5UfhzzdHydwjQePQzgJ67i-- --bc6OOYO0KOPq2eMsWcbiAQk7tTWE4F489 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE+Gq3PsPeLT4tL/9wk4vgf7Eq4WwFAlvq9IAACgkQk4vgf7Eq 4WzAiwf/eDrjdm+QB7l8X0ODUG0TmPHk5LLxP9Z5xX0z0NwKHclzcoAZqSLwNrbO RQCFWI2Bi8HZOAHDhTkfWYqr5va2CRead6IYjI7Lym+uxYaOUawKM89WwM3Zz2NL jbjsp6drw0tDjgxWbnJOjwvXD8ydQshpDoEcVDTv89w8l3BSzHARL/6NjA9NOoZy oIayOoO7JKi3O/yJ8Dc6iCbeKrTdB+mgGwmlzJ0c8FY6pNm8vsZ+p6d4LKjmbQLm HiZHOO4QSlqfAasSGfInbL7qJeuWHwJtjtzF7jDGQaLLV6aqWvh2BQwYUyjO5BtP hDbD2/4jfYmU3maiz+ZKZ/7iydr6RA== =qTmO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bc6OOYO0KOPq2eMsWcbiAQk7tTWE4F489-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 16:44:06 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD67112A4E2 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x92c.google.com (mail-ua1-x92c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::92c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 063456D325 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x92c.google.com with SMTP id p9so4574359uaa.5 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:44:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=vipOQ7bKF0EqbjVTFMfOKlXMhe87qCdVbg8OvwYhyQU=; b=Ykllw3RKt4gdW1wUdYDl/ZaMlpuhT9tYUOLgg6bKR1kC2v1fXtR8JzqLzvzag6v0YU 7WsY2zU0LDTLpsArDzqsK1ulPDQaWzQz4OvvUcJoD5OUN0DfsYwutDA/W+UCyYydusLU vCr+FBHxJ9GTVj2nGuQzyf9/OTFQSxE7hSsahqOR9tjKd3E4nWovYcHEcQK5Xv8sOT4c 3kcdJvvRklgSD4tW4rO6XlRyDqKgLU79CA5a9vhvFm0ufuVYXfJqZSWfl8qbaLV2bb0Q 0JYpMrz9pOidG7VS+OV+U23eqSlbC8PutPYu7pGdBC4J5OgnE1nDemgLzW0z1uzgUn9s //Hw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=vipOQ7bKF0EqbjVTFMfOKlXMhe87qCdVbg8OvwYhyQU=; b=r4Io4blsIDDI738gQU1Djk1zy9ej7H0EkieLnNQd1v4jgXWZlxe1Fr1c/eahVl6sXP WLruB/wfpLRtElFX/1qgQ+Mbd59LUPktFuR/dmClb3zC8dvIU5/o9ZliyPA2k+S6K6fx cn37Yt+v+YdXWwFySJhvzv+YW6yi0/CFj3QaU4LpSlDAEwFSUxt5QfO/miubZmQYKnqI eLXpIWd8eKI4gZzFSLX2a3UvIzcx3ffRFLOouuqfigJRjhn1embxnx90G2NcKd1KI1tU RvwavDNz3sXkoT4CuPBBnPN5dpUoJZssY0EX1gYnqwsq/+Iob+aefGMaKX/kHaxGBPlP 4a6g== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKxcVaVe0zKAAy/YDUsrdOqLVXXeJtH/btB0ni0ZK0wEHfzxjwU pDaKEzrmmxO8oCCJH/2LUCCUuZ/e4HHKPhu17Fk+dxZw X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5diEabScaPgFC/z7CUykaUVp99NfV0Nzzjs53JZMP3yTmfmQo+8nMnkOV+rhcvRnCwUo2pfIse0vYJiSdgoU5w= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:484b:: with SMTP id c11mr2631877uad.54.1542127444831; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:44:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:54c3:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:44:04 -0800 (PST) From: B J Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:44:04 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Kernel Panics With Firefox 63.x To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 063456D325 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.91 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.914,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.99)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.88), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.09)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:44:06 -0000 I recently upgraded my system and that included Firefox. It's been troublesome ever since. Often, it would crash for no apparent reason and this morning, it started taking down my entire system. The result was that my machine would have to reboot. Now I can't use Firefox at all without having my machine going into a kernel panic. My machine is more than 10 years old and I think it runs 32 bits. The OS is FreeBSD 11.2 and I'm using Mate as a desktop. Any suggestions? Thanks. B. M. Jatzeck From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 17:35:16 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816FE112B6E6 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 17:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D4A86ECD6 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 17:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MXH3Y-1fz5O10cKE-00YeJi; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 18:29:55 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 18:29:54 +0100 From: Polytropon To: B J Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Kernel Panics With Firefox 63.x Message-Id: <20181113182954.1d7060bd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Qj9AsNOtFeI36h0/oD6kEVXQ3SSnDn5bsKtGfatTg4UetZGoGac w+DnngqUW7OS1GE+ObihGxmS7DLsW9nuXbSqLGzM10SL/bw2X86k/CabyWpabldMkgF2cug Xv9P4WhE3zmeH2WYC5TsTCprZRczVU1DiawpnTIGDFZ/h7dQJH74bzZpaaBTbPrPqq7hQoS ggOT3ZmyMO9if6TTssusA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:oT2iDw2Hi80=:JydyUWN0qlgGWPKPQHMDTa QfRddP+pWCdVya1gl9ZaaFdrGCWs/utQ2IlFXDelE49KRYf0yuBavTmd++X4nOXTGWjNbM5fu 6ua5/0YE/q2+cY3Eql37EW6jhwfEM3jubgTmWS9wMmuVY6BKnZj49Q2vz18wxIhwFQySjEA+w d4L+MjxXXilQLmG2PCswZNxaHPskAAg5dgYYsENCxOsSv08ikUkzD0oh5rZzdrtY6PhNP46em jWz1T3TYkRZWO/DL6faNfcj6ZqJgUZ6+FZg40+SeJFCiLQmnzxt99DlhhpB8V4sxqlr5cnl6L oxZwqUm/jTDHhXeqsYKEMKkGhi92G0HIUAMIbCZ0Yi70Cobw0zRw0UYTKMvKuK758ywrClMoR 0AqIKfSDijOjPMEzzat/hiGAlBgBYkzJK61rmOK/01F4cMSff+Nd2H7eOgym2PUDkPSFi+olm H0HT3FC23YrUgeRFCOM095xL3Lq3Jh6ZzKHL+kkXNpq23ROA5TCY6v837cNvx7JFfNvWZe9Ey APGse9fT0E1JWtYwg4ocYzZLkA/ufCh1fwUYmylNvrdzqM9KoeG8TQNP9nrfpRSaXolIN7ITS 5hLcGEpvHuOcE47cYQbxVbwy80lglZegmTEkKc/nDqWK4XqVmYx/n79qe5IyE3X6762lwsiec jDC02/giYWZi/Ot3nrE9GRcQk8xsPkav/7sbxGilctaSsSMtBsxRqCBYplkcNOMk52sbo8n7w 75G/3JyPcbBZ++/P0KBU9elutcg9C5eKuK1A22XUHfjWCPC0LbyigXgZuhwaDVMaA1LlKH4mW +s8DF2R2Q6jvnDsg/J2OkHyJOfTtg== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5D4A86ECD6 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.95 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx00.schlund.de,mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.73)[-0.728,0]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[181.180.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; IP_SCORE(0.15)[ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(0.09), asn: 8560(0.65), country: DE(-0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.39)[-0.386,0]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.47)[-0.474,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[10.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[10.17.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 17:35:16 -0000 On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:44:04 +0000, B J wrote: > I recently upgraded my system and that included Firefox. It's been > troublesome ever since. Often, it would crash for no apparent reason > and this morning, it started taking down my entire system. The result > was that my machine would have to reboot. > > Now I can't use Firefox at all without having my machine going into a > kernel panic. Could you get any useful information from the kernel dump? > My machine is more than 10 years old and I think it runs 32 bits. The > OS is FreeBSD 11.2 and I'm using Mate as a desktop. Same here - the machine is quite old and runs 32 bit, which is intended (2 GB RAM, no requirement for 64 bit at all, trouble with nVidia driver). Needless to say, I'm _not_ using Firefox on that particular machine (I prefer Opera). > Any suggestions? Thanks. Others than replacing Firefox with a better browser? ;-) What you could do: Re-install Firefox (most recent version). Also make sure all of its dependencies are up to date. In worst case, it's "just" a memory leak. Check if the Firefox + system crashes happen when visiting "complicated pages" (i. e., those involving lots of JS, or those containing FLV, MP4 or WebM media content). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 17:57:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165D5112C172 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 17:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta03.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FC0C700AC for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 17:57:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@twc.com) Received: from freebsd.friedrich.org ([74.132.25.214]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id Mctgg3A6iVpvIMctjgQhvv; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 17:54:48 +0000 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kinfocenter missing info Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:54:44 -0500 Message-ID: <8664183.RH3biPoPvx@freebsd.friedrich.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfEZwHRC7lwtee0dxOc6pP+3qV3RB9kovTSniItjd733n0ekwUtuqkmlSQP/F471AzUsf6w6Zduy7ECpsk1xlO5Xd+ngrSEHOypqMJA4pxUaemNvFV+Uu jp2Gh/pehrfKJIPlmLiIbz5pU4RL+2ZOzk3aneKKJiB475YGnmevQVgJzM2H/qhNzlzASmBTguUXCQ== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5FC0C700AC X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.99 / 200.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[twc.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: dnvrco-cmedge01.email.rr.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.42)[-0.417,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[214.25.132.74.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; CTE_CASE(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[twc.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.89)[-0.895,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.85)[-0.850,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[twc.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[232.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 17:57:34 -0000 I run Kubuntu, Gentoo, and FreeBSD on the same machine. Under FreeBSD, Kinfocenter doesn't show any info under Device Information...Device Viewer. It does under Kubuntu and Gentoo. Do I have to tweak something somewhere? Also, no devices show up under USB Devices. Same question. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 18:28:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A494112D481 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 18:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe36.google.com (mail-vs1-xe36.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CAA971B28 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 18:28:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe36.google.com with SMTP id y27so7922888vsi.1 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 10:28:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=9NOZplbFeitOuLqvE7AelMIX1JHGIOoYrZc+W5SdPJ4=; b=ZHCKrtsN7lwy2/yBtjXfebnwfCXio69JssNxa4EmKvY1RPjz1/fY9OMjtaeVAn7nrn ABwDgZ6LAcRTcZMK239zq8L59Ehc8rznra8tTA0LoD40EiXAiHAc4OS0NjQ1YYoJQz2w DfjOxD91D3FV2J/3xTwuEoZHwgfIuoYHkN4qYOc3zVvp7pQ20da4bp1HaUyzN7BsBShw sDj7CN6t63sb2GIPZzAjxy0yoAilt5USF8HZVaMcfBZ6scW2j1nTbvukZTQNjcrVpCqK 2dHteUGNR95wncSa4pdu/kEcmtNGL9eWk6rt3d2Uv+If0aUDeCduvdXbAIPTfiXOH6AH oUMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9NOZplbFeitOuLqvE7AelMIX1JHGIOoYrZc+W5SdPJ4=; b=qTvFaSWLipN4fsSCgp9QXdXwcWSTVY7wxZBbe+Xx8SDoepO4aMLuqwZkiMPhtl0Yzi qD4QCF7WyVA14muM7fPSlD2ZVzqWW31daasCMfufjDOVI18uz4gWxh2s3BQP+2qH+ncr j/V343gtssaE//E99WDlrF+z/OSwQSGTXKuvGJT5Ukij7f1zC7ogbf8PTR0OpEXouXFe XIclOYsHNLb1niZ8SV/6j4GVyQAGFP6HOLNMB2ol7W/RhZfdQ8Fuz2UpJw37zEjU+IXH ooIhtiFGfSCEkHuCFgr1P9VVNDhVdd7/3GdHZucAB+bkvghApJ7Nenp+AOInrllwpibt VHqQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJr3WIka138Ds3MnzpebDo5ZtphNnG1qmJTqq+js/bvahVYWKm2 I0QA87BVv0OSQk9ZYInBuIfN+dW25a8cRboJ0VM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5dCBubY7Rr7nYmrD3xuRd5KZmdOwkYRf5kxWHznyGa5zdoNBFn/9RVYproQ5yMKmStEbaR0lwD1gRcZ2kZZLsg= X-Received: by 2002:a67:1803:: with SMTP id 3mr2810773vsy.172.1542133734313; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 10:28:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:54c3:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 10:28:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20181113182954.1d7060bd.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20181113182954.1d7060bd.freebsd@edvax.de> From: B J Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 18:28:53 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Kernel Panics With Firefox 63.x To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6CAA971B28 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.95 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.959,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.98)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.88), asn: 15169(-1.94), country: US(-0.09)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 18:28:56 -0000 On 11/13/18, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:44:04 +0000, B J wrote: >> I recently upgraded my system and that included Firefox. It's been >> troublesome ever since. Often, it would crash for no apparent reason >> and this morning, it started taking down my entire system. The result >> was that my machine would have to reboot. >> >> Now I can't use Firefox at all without having my machine going into a >> kernel panic. > > Could you get any useful information from the kernel dump? I haven't looked at it in detail. From the info file in /var/crash: Panic String: ufs_dirbad: /: bad dir ino 719 at offset 512: mangled entry The core.txt file gives a lot more information in detail. > > > >> My machine is more than 10 years old and I think it runs 32 bits. The >> OS is FreeBSD 11.2 and I'm using Mate as a desktop. > > Same here - the machine is quite old and runs 32 bit, which > is intended (2 GB RAM, no requirement for 64 bit at all, > trouble with nVidia driver). Needless to say, I'm _not_ > using Firefox on that particular machine (I prefer Opera). > > > >> Any suggestions? Thanks. > > Others than replacing Firefox with a better browser? ;-) > > What you could do: Re-install Firefox (most recent version). > Also make sure all of its dependencies are up to date. In > worst case, it's "just" a memory leak. I re-installed it using pkg but that didn't do any good. > > Check if the Firefox + system crashes happen when visiting > "complicated pages" (i. e., those involving lots of JS, or > those containing FLV, MP4 or WebM media content). For some reason, the last few versions I've been running on that machine have had problems with YouTube videos. Most of the crashes after my last system upgrade have occurred when I'm viewing one. This morning, I couldn't even start FF without it crashing my machine. I'm thinking that some configuration file might be corrupted but I haven't the foggiest as to where to look for it. Right now, I'm building FF from ports. Maybe that'll help. As for Opera, I've never really liked it and the version I installed using pkg (Opera 12) is reaching the end of its service life. I can't even view YouTube videos with it. As an aside, I've got almost the identical system installed on another hard drive on my machine. I launched it with no problem. I also have another machine set up the same way: 2 FreeBSD systems on separate HDs. I tried FF with one of them and it launched without problem. This is a bit of a head-scratcher..... BMJ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 19:18:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB83A112E9D6 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2588E73C18 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MsYzD-1fT2Nh45ed-00u0rD; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 20:18:31 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 20:18:30 +0100 From: Polytropon To: B J Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Kernel Panics With Firefox 63.x Message-Id: <20181113201830.f0eec001.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20181113182954.1d7060bd.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:XR6FAqaEdfP+H+Tkad/NJZ1t9pH672oE8mDCp6BdIqvbcybOqMl c4VAC1k8Hi9lrUo53/VmGcbXGcZnMd++VO/8h+ycoZtED+gmtHOV+iZ7gZ8qFmsqDUitmtZ xYAwRPkDvAqeSTkzf/RwxjjQrtRDJFqZZA1oLs9xnXbjBgnfPpeE0DqFZWjXYOXCw4Dij0m q/pCDWeQ4l8pxums8Xb0Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:juCmzlr+xvo=:qCriESc+et5PIygT8jaFmi nRBxSAADvLVR9CGJWYdoEw0qe8Is6im+AeYZaVOL1Khqgy6+MlXCWqGmrJDe/faYPBXgGxFYJ LqVbz4pdNVn5Fr+6gabgbvhhluBqs65wAX1HpNVY41U1RAWAmZjNwInCgEBbBHIoJWTuaPvji Xvr8Y+IpQLCKE5+0JSczA0wbMchwlpVsptF42lFbW0HYCoyZ9etINkh3MpdJYtMoLKuK+U4PR 42zNymDqzDMQ9BTclXgzFRtHIR+claa5KFSHlovQr2OfNDn1pe1lDeZ37MLA0IHY7QHcBn+/q vLpyxM3FmxPs2jebIOdHpiIAjvpELgFj0R95EviWUeEkkAOGVkGUpq+YnVHfyn6g2PNMkd6MZ U0eV+FXq9LBbR46HMte2bFPeqNMmR+69ADnPgjhdYfiZhHm6B13LUtSQ6hAQT5A5WzUT++kcd VufmyDDSK1ZXt22lk1G9SMmAgnIbQUoxlYlJCrmIPbl4NTAAQ9FuLizc5myxozG81I5yL4uCj q91Acfsd9sHfhILU5IkU1JfhVBfoKm9SvMvD+2203EHmtQaqClCP8+Z+EUGTLQecBul5sQWqw 2UMkp3zieBJ1HJHNQtdLG9+BxyBRSaFMCoa7zlQmPMP0Lrr4W2IyMm3L7YWZNJuoSMTsBKHN6 tEG5gwssvg9Rs0aUwk76arSSxVBrew8oJphaTN1Zxm3EVhaVNjvPMmKTp/Nu1zNlEctVpfJqh ac5Nqgm52VqSBdm9u6FDYUPkkQuPQHij/m+w+yCqPAqJx4zgHP8UstKszxASg/xfhkgBYvgbp +xMFjP+Mv6we3CKbDZctwkRMYuOTQ== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2588E73C18 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.49 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx00.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[181.180.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; IP_SCORE(0.14)[ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(0.08), asn: 8560(0.64), country: DE(-0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.38)[-0.376,0]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.11)[0.115,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.78)[-0.784,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:18:41 -0000 On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 18:28:53 +0000, B J wrote: > On 11/13/18, Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:44:04 +0000, B J wrote: > >> I recently upgraded my system and that included Firefox. It's been > >> troublesome ever since. Often, it would crash for no apparent reason > >> and this morning, it started taking down my entire system. The result > >> was that my machine would have to reboot. > >> > >> Now I can't use Firefox at all without having my machine going into a > >> kernel panic. > > > > Could you get any useful information from the kernel dump? > > I haven't looked at it in detail. From the info file in /var/crash: > > Panic String: ufs_dirbad: /: bad dir ino 719 at offset 512: mangled entry > > The core.txt file gives a lot more information in detail. Oh! This looks like a file system problem! Even though it sounds strange, file system inconsistencies can cause lots of problems, up to a complete system crash. I've been experiencing this kind of problem in the past, so allow me to share my experience and solution: First, boot your system into single-user mode ("boot -s" at the boot prompt). Then perform a fsck of all your file systems, especially /: # fsck / YOu can use the form "fsck -yf /" when you are familiar with the implications of the -y and -f flag; to achieve this, read "man fsck" carefully. If all file systems have been returned to a consistent state, mount them and proceed normal startup: # mount -a # exit Afterwards, check /etc/rc.conf, and make sure you have the following setting: background_fsck="NO" This entry is essential! It will force a successful fsck run at system startup. Background fsck has often shown to be a problem, as the system boots into a somewhat inconsistent state, and this can lead to all kinds of errors... > >> Any suggestions? Thanks. > > > > Others than replacing Firefox with a better browser? ;-) > > > > What you could do: Re-install Firefox (most recent version). > > Also make sure all of its dependencies are up to date. In > > worst case, it's "just" a memory leak. > > I re-installed it using pkg but that didn't do any good. Maybe it's not Firefox, but one of its dependencies... > > Check if the Firefox + system crashes happen when visiting > > "complicated pages" (i. e., those involving lots of JS, or > > those containing FLV, MP4 or WebM media content). > > For some reason, the last few versions I've been running on that > machine have had problems with YouTube videos. Most of the crashes > after my last system upgrade have occurred when I'm viewing one. This looks like a codec / dependency error. YouTube has made the transition to "HTML 5 video" and does no longer need "Flash". The codecs and general player functionality has to be in the web browser now. > This morning, I couldn't even start FF without it crashing my machine. > I'm thinking that some configuration file might be corrupted but I > haven't the foggiest as to where to look for it. This really looks like you should investigate for a possible file system problem as explained above. > Right now, I'm building FF from ports. Maybe that'll help. Make sure you also rebuild all ports it depends on. > As for > Opera, I've never really liked it and the version I installed using > pkg (Opera 12) is reaching the end of its service life. I can't even > view YouTube videos with it. Interestingly, Opera was the only browser where everything worked for me. Sure, it requires some time to configure it into a state where it becomes usable, but that is true for Firefox and Chrome, too. The out-of-the-box experience is just plain terrible. > As an aside, I've got almost the identical system installed on another > hard drive on my machine. I launched it with no problem. I also have > another machine set up the same way: 2 FreeBSD systems on separate > HDs. I tried FF with one of them and it launched without problem. > > This is a bit of a head-scratcher..... Again, from my experience: It _could_ be a defective GPU. As the GPU is involved in media decode operations, a faulty GPU can cause the system to hang or to surprisingly reboot. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 19:37:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89608112F37B for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe36.google.com (mail-vs1-xe36.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E879374646 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe36.google.com with SMTP id y27so8059163vsi.1 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 11:37:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=PvSFRElJHtW2fvjWa5qO2/mlFXBhWBMZi74HTgGP9yw=; b=gZQb/CQusEWbWE+KrLhuusyWU29moiuAXkzYP0r9rPgR563x3tT3m1a2R8ceF3mKME +bGt0a/IGvRaXDIYI8V9k+IA48ihfBQShjA+EfTxzWIfBPoSuxDfnttUu6L8occE6Jv0 TF1pxhthEsf1BnjCX7L1T8kcLg2lcj/KPyfiqRWvo0etc/eR2dN2uP1W6WqN8WGosFEd zhlrL/QMm3qQbBkR/NOltfMcrqLSarbhgxoPzR1jUzXJrAXKKepVc+M9I7PrtYqCc42a RGtMTDhHtjLfKuuQEYteeEZzAorWtN76YrrsOkK0AUi+6QglYTdgeX/+XLMnbKOgmy1T IbcA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=PvSFRElJHtW2fvjWa5qO2/mlFXBhWBMZi74HTgGP9yw=; b=RArg7Y4K6Uy9u0umnHDkwDGtbOJP8IgHhrN6ywOYTdKSzxdmgXjJHO8bzG9g+7jGr2 SWIJZRpMmr37wcrwclySygq0GJ4vs2mlY6yZ7t89d9FyoX/w0/l/Zk4KySnzV5+rwTsY tLvPaVJ+cwKqluGD1N5Q7t6AJ3dPW8FT0YcEvb7lcsg1xaNncc3JkQDEUCrgd+pFIp6x jyrik3LRy+6fPfsUo+9SGTku2WOFZ2j029yMCJzb/qFXR5uvRZI4gwTl0YyyHG0fQWlH Hax7HEugODFHYOf2G5/+92gEXzHX/xjeQfyOdzKFMSApl0ehSh2IT6cW0cnDjsAqixyA 37uQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKLjKIIAiG13b1zwAn7jAV2CSNL5fH42NJ/h7LruXmqtE9jW2Zn 0D4uk/HbKrEr59kEL+Spq9teCtYlo5klS0lnGGcTorXt X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fB/ERYeqvrmpJifSVdqkGcvyyySfyeFXWvhOKjJ9JFrtbhyCnFB0LzCHPhUrTHNS/76+9kv9BU1SAzq7g+Apg= X-Received: by 2002:a67:868c:: with SMTP id i134mr2803526vsd.97.1542137860277; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 11:37:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:54c3:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 11:37:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20181113201830.f0eec001.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20181113182954.1d7060bd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20181113201830.f0eec001.freebsd@edvax.de> From: B J Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:37:39 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Kernel Panics With Firefox 63.x To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E879374646 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.95 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.965,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.98)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.88), asn: 15169(-1.93), country: US(-0.09)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:37:41 -0000 On 11/13/18, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 18:28:53 +0000, B J wrote: >> On 11/13/18, Polytropon wrote: >> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:44:04 +0000, B J wrote: >> >> I recently upgraded my system and that included Firefox. It's been >> >> troublesome ever since. Often, it would crash for no apparent reason >> >> and this morning, it started taking down my entire system. The result >> >> was that my machine would have to reboot. >> >> >> >> Now I can't use Firefox at all without having my machine going into a >> >> kernel panic. >> > >> > Could you get any useful information from the kernel dump? >> >> I haven't looked at it in detail. From the info file in /var/crash: >> >> Panic String: ufs_dirbad: /: bad dir ino 719 at offset 512: mangled >> entry >> >> The core.txt file gives a lot more information in detail. > > Oh! This looks like a file system problem! Even though > it sounds strange, file system inconsistencies can cause > lots of problems, up to a complete system crash. Thanks for the info. It looks like I've got some work ahead of me. I'll look into that once I finish building FF from ports which, as I'm writing this, is still in progress after about 2 hours. BMJ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 19:55:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2054112FE1E for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:55:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08CD0755CF for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:55:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MuDPh-1fUgbI11v3-00uYpa; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 20:50:21 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 20:50:20 +0100 From: Polytropon To: B J Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Kernel Panics With Firefox 63.x Message-Id: <20181113205020.afc446d9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20181113182954.1d7060bd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20181113201830.f0eec001.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:977kfuHGjEposdW8+tHMZYc7FeYNCEdxEMreaxQnMR0FO5R4ONN dCfnjZQU/EKKYcD4NqH3YTgjtFokp27ThFHhOMhhgxz5017fMUChafc/n+WnV9fzvKp1TXB IDgJXFibAMefrTtagzsBDAKRJhe5gZUTABKCNNSIoFzAvUjntpV0tg7SMxzoNwfAeWbJooL WBEzvHzHAVy5btzlv9itA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:BRPh434rUgY=:z5diKz9/P5AGZMd72tl1K1 4VbQ3GitCA9qqtVEEm7YMR3sJwrWycBUuNN8zWztnv/WLOHNYi0YLVvk2FE+YCNK3HTpLxdOE 2BQKU03Rm70Ah4WQscnqwBkKASnnClysgebTLZz6GkO/YyoEZSqqNsH/CwpJe/1nj1aWsr4TC GfMAsjAAPUTdqTLQ+pKCcxhUkefOh0dSRq0nCQNtezph328bjncdlwLye7ZN5JR1s8IKkhopP xFBPd1kK+/u9lMCj3htni1uzrKT0VrhXBIegs1Wb65nc4d/LJxqecbZSvmNmOvb9nBlH3PgAx vcTMIXBH+5w+B/w59GFczKpaL98D+yWk6DJCTtDadwZx3nLmWiMzbsTmW8n1d9eD0Jweerc+c +fLCSxSmOVEAptDkhsd/jFXfukEEK/zoErwFI9FLeGeaoe6s3mBJWhxmkMoutwQ1Nq6VGvwR1 O3C23NukQx52K/dtcgwyh8rCp5l76gFPPcWW5iPTJAyGQs7YdFXFpbyhburgz8cacTs+oqVtP aRYkc3OA0s9X9RRg2A9pFgubXaED+RBsyahDia0/SkJPstJl+Zp3pxpozxVfdyb8/XdEOkQLY WxB8Vy5jsRXDriWaYqnOmW1x0b7cl19ip1PQpEXX5YWWJ6tlIpoD2cYoPcTNZjx9ZWxJh1DMI Y/COAlqnWecRhaMA1ltZGmrq6acKq6bt09AntCcrjX0pxLB923JU1LrTlQ2rbd7EOrvA5Qjm7 YPR5HYfKKdYH6tJI1AhxVyS2cOe466SIIDrXMKtROn+5eBhOu0mWU0dYA5sg2p/wsCn5k1De+ dH2tkGeNPJN94MUfABRNQ94dfwW5Q== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 08CD0755CF X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.24 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx00.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.11)[-0.112,0]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[181.180.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; IP_SCORE(0.14)[ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(0.08), asn: 8560(0.64), country: DE(-0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.39)[-0.388,0]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.79)[-0.790,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[135.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:55:41 -0000 On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 19:37:39 +0000, B J wrote: > On 11/13/18, Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 18:28:53 +0000, B J wrote: > >> On 11/13/18, Polytropon wrote: > >> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 16:44:04 +0000, B J wrote: > >> >> I recently upgraded my system and that included Firefox. It's been > >> >> troublesome ever since. Often, it would crash for no apparent reason > >> >> and this morning, it started taking down my entire system. The result > >> >> was that my machine would have to reboot. > >> >> > >> >> Now I can't use Firefox at all without having my machine going into a > >> >> kernel panic. > >> > > >> > Could you get any useful information from the kernel dump? > >> > >> I haven't looked at it in detail. From the info file in /var/crash: > >> > >> Panic String: ufs_dirbad: /: bad dir ino 719 at offset 512: mangled > >> entry > >> > >> The core.txt file gives a lot more information in detail. > > > > Oh! This looks like a file system problem! Even though > > it sounds strange, file system inconsistencies can cause > > lots of problems, up to a complete system crash. > > > > Thanks for the info. It looks like I've got some work ahead of me. > I'll look into that once I finish building FF from ports which, as I'm > writing this, is still in progress after about 2 hours. I'd suggest you interrupt the build right now. It _could_ happen that a file system inconsistency causes a defective binary to be generated without you noticing. Perform the forced fsck in SUM first, then "make clean", and finally restart the build - just to be sure... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 20:24:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB711130ABB for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 20:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trkellers@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x733.google.com (mail-qk1-x733.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::733]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 045B876782 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 20:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trkellers@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x733.google.com with SMTP id q1so21858421qkf.13 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:24:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=DuXZPGSx+lIlM5O4U9upZg/xJxe27QJ3SDuaqBaq0+w=; b=ivUMOjYisipiWuQZ66fnQmAEBQB9bmVCWYmbrj/cpp+mRHcYhUmyb6cjyUnarSn5re Bg3pqPIKWev/LzlhDJU9Z7cDfnNJn/K4jhsb4jubt++WZqDt5natR6yuVb5x+JaVrrQj gK/Iw09CrX4MnAv6AaNFlSiVvVN/eBgnDPlKSFOOOJpz05Sf6z4P1i4QTR1BS3HoBTeC tdgWpZxsAbHCVUqQ9IXP9kDKRE6SHQe8hKQ8/uVmCBIuK25D436dbI1sOvE3WdUGxTP3 EqKw0VUp3IWKn9qQmKf9p0jX3jgwap+U/0lcJq5Wu6hGh0/qjqsRDf0XzoNxjdDQW3/a dayg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=DuXZPGSx+lIlM5O4U9upZg/xJxe27QJ3SDuaqBaq0+w=; b=nfg/BtvdjlA9A+GBBBRi0JsFoIRmFftnGuIXnCv1dtgjBxiijok6Txakn0jrjxPLOa 6j57YQQyEl1DJLIYn0uneuO8McvMdUJzWeViV3ylw/B56kDG7878w2eJ4nFuSLogm+OX y2nTeLpHTEJfBXzKRkBxpmMcljKn/gzPAECvH/9hfuMRNrgyhFaKYzWPIbk3hEfuzdTY JSXsL44MlTuFh97OGOSlMCSEOz/fPQsCOJWhu1D40/ag0EzjZc6rMQIXJnVv/762AHRf t8zQz0WRqfMcZWjjN9aMDGmhSs0j68lyRru7URCJaGuX4SiqnH5hH3BqD8SmH5YVGDBn jnGw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKGGFvvr+XiiJgOCXso2xUROGn3wC+zoFgPvTRKGClTdOuPy6Cj FvnSaDirmyNgf6Zhj7OJrfAKtWg2 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5ffMdRsRsFBeEe4UDZAMq/1UQLSH384aOYrfFiKqs5CCkIFHcICE/iODggx/JUXfk5TOvhu+w== X-Received: by 2002:a0c:fccf:: with SMTP id i15mr6723816qvq.69.1542140649196; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:24:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from TIMs-iMac.local ([50.36.29.197]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5sm6122038qtw.50.2018.11.13.12.24.07 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 13 Nov 2018 12:24:08 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions From: TIM KELLERS Subject: 11.1-R to 11.2-R upgrade error and odd fix Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:24:07 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 045B876782 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.96 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.967,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[197.29.36.50.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.98)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.89), asn: 15169(-1.92), country: US(-0.09)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.3.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 20:24:10 -0000 I had a virtual server running 11.1-RELEASE that I wanted to update to 11.2-RELEASE. I created /usr/src and did: svn checkout https://svn.freebsd.org/base/releng/11.2 /usr/src make buildworld bombed making the bootstrap tools with: /usr/include/c++/v1/limits:119:1: error: unknown type name '_LIBCPP_PUSH_MACROS' _LIBCPP_PUSH_MACROS ^ /usr/include/c++/v1/limits:123:1: error: expected unqualified-id _LIBCPP_BEGIN_NAMESPACE_STD ^ /usr/include/c++/v1/__config:388:37: note: expanded from macro       '_LIBCPP_BEGIN_NAMESPACE_STD' #define _LIBCPP_BEGIN_NAMESPACE_STD namespace std {inline namespace _LIB... The rest of the compiler error trail: In file included from /usr/src/contrib/llvm/lib/Support/APFloat.cpp:15: In file included from /usr/src/contrib/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APFloat.h:20: In file included from /usr/src/contrib/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APInt.h:20: In file included from /usr/src/contrib/llvm/include/llvm/Support/MathExtras.h:19: In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:640: In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/memory:634: /usr/include/c++/v1/limits:815:1: error: unknown type name '_LIBCPP_POP_MACROS' _LIBCPP_POP_MACROS ^ In file included from /usr/src/contrib/llvm/lib/Support/APFloat.cpp:15: In file included from /usr/src/contrib/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APFloat.h:20: In file included from /usr/src/contrib/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APInt.h:20: In file included from /usr/src/contrib/llvm/include/llvm/Support/MathExtras.h:19: In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:640: In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/memory:635: In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/iterator:417: In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/iosfwd:90: In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/wchar.h:119: In file included from /usr/include/wchar.h:67: /usr/include/_ctype.h:71:1: error: expected unqualified-id __BEGIN_DECLS ^ /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h:59:23: note: expanded from macro '__BEGIN_DECLS' #define __BEGIN_DECLS   extern "C" {                         ^ In file included from /usr/src/contrib/llvm/lib/Support/APFloat.cpp:15: In file included from /usr/src/contrib/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APFloat.h:20: In file included from /usr/src/contrib/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APInt.h:20: In file included from /usr/src/contrib/llvm/include/llvm/Support/MathExtras.h:19: In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/algorithm:640: In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/memory:635: In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/iterator:417: In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/iosfwd:90: In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/wchar.h:119: In file included from /usr/include/wchar.h:67: /usr/include/_ctype.h:100:44: error: use of undeclared identifier '___runetype'         return ((_c < 0 || _c >= _CACHED_RUNES) ? ___runetype(_c) :                                                   ^ /usr/include/_ctype.h:133:43: error: use of undeclared identifier '___toupper';       did you mean '__toupper'?         return (_c < 0 || _c >= _CACHED_RUNES) ? ___toupper(_c) :                                                  ^ /usr/include/_ctype.h:131:1: note: '__toupper' declared here __toupper(__ct_rune_t _c) ^ /usr/include/_ctype.h:147:43: error: use of undeclared identifier '___tolower';       did you mean '__tolower'?         return (_c < 0 || _c >= _CACHED_RUNES) ? ___tolower(_c) :                                                  ^ /usr/include/_ctype.h:145:1: note: '__tolower' declared here __tolower(__ct_rune_t _c) ^ In file included from /usr/src/contrib/llvm/lib/Support/APFloat.cpp:15: In file included from /usr/src/contrib/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APFloat.h:20: In file included from /usr/src/contrib/llvm/include/llvm/ADT/APInt.h:24: In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/string:470: In file included from /usr/include/c++/v1/string_view:171: /usr/include/c++/v1/__string:60:10: fatal error: '__undef_min_max' file not       found #include <__undef_min_max>          ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 8 errors generated. *** Error code 1 Stop. make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/lib/clang/libllvmminimal The "fix" for this was copying this file (__undef_min_max) to these 2 locations (from an 11.2-STABLE instance I have, r337124) /usr/include/c++/v1/__undef_min_max /usr/include/c++/v1/tr1/__undef_min_max Here is my clang version: > clang --version FreeBSD clang version 6.0.1 (tags/RELEASE_601/final 335540) (based on LLVM 6.0.1) Target: x86_64-unknown-freebsd11.2 Thread model: posix InstalledDir: /usr/bin And my c++ version: > c++ --version FreeBSD clang version 6.0.1 (tags/RELEASE_601/final 335540) (based on LLVM 6.0.1) Target: x86_64-unknown-freebsd11.2 Thread model: posix InstalledDir: /usr/bin The world finally successfully built, but I have no idea why my svn left those files out of those directories or why my clang/c++ may be somehow deficient. Its fixed (at least its working for now), but I'd like to know what happened so I don't run into (or cause) this to happen again. Tim From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 21:04:46 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DAA1131D91 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x92c.google.com (mail-ua1-x92c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::92c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 136EA77D59 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x92c.google.com with SMTP id u19so4880827uae.4 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:04:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=SFqfzGBjibiBeCeh2o8agLQQwSd6O3RldCGV6+8u2dA=; b=kMAbwj30XqYJuHLdeQbhqMybvD9xggQU0flNLIYlmNHBPUbVL61GODuUZIcpgf0brU dwsivlvwgIQMtnJnP/uQT6HCUtF9XEPKJq6vSc5BEGBbwyLaB59p3N8Fr3hW7cfoGDKY +VsWw6VQKYavAjZ8lcYi9KLRHwQvFUwurdxJ/cZBbNCbLTZ178hPpJOtcEYD0deXFgnM u2IwHkYwt7FBGzaG9duxuKV/KVPqowZ4TimFEgUxbV/8kHljsd/ob0ZkubaYGVEBaTiV juFdiI3Jg6gcrcY/1W/x6Xdfe1SkiGYBfcgj0SJ7ieA5J7uEe//tOvATgRwWwTOA33CZ 6OAQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=SFqfzGBjibiBeCeh2o8agLQQwSd6O3RldCGV6+8u2dA=; b=D7axVeBh6peef44qcodXwfioKmQ04B4RBquiI9Vu3RS4yswpSvVCwNEHc3BCBCf5zR Yd0vDhJyFUKG7IaTHX0B3oixzjGjBR7Q2lCFZv43Nwg9vWF9yvVJcd9g7O/KJW5swcqo xRX9o8mG4CeIR1SyJ1EvUDIW7yps4eGx2EobWDklwDa5GF+gnSl2fYjw3ECf2SRW9XMQ k4SvLIDRRZgni+n/2BCFHgAr9CM4a1SWuWEhM9WTgnOtEfXQDqqGv2zi9H0+rx/rwz+1 TwQfcF2YszSVNAGZKAhbG5MlFKWugpjmD5HKzHQHcdp/qnPF+aA6vmU/9hpSxRhS7D4T xxiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKH9ucVNNnpgeQ4p/pZusaEHhGVhsdkojxmzvtHC/a4uvK5jYWp gMOXflBwxd2P15SOOwjGLdd96tzJyt9FGV3YGwxfPsmy X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5dz/3J+DRtQlWfkSWE9rLGmZUwUre1n30Q5bYnf/IVUCAfYbuVH7yD9GFcGhVUlyoCM7f/QzGQ5YSonijMUrqY= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:6705:: with SMTP id q5mr3274314uam.89.1542143084073; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:04:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:54c3:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:04:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20181113205020.afc446d9.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20181113182954.1d7060bd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20181113201830.f0eec001.freebsd@edvax.de> <20181113205020.afc446d9.freebsd@edvax.de> From: B J Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:04:43 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Kernel Panics With Firefox 63.x To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 136EA77D59 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.86 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.873,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.98)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.88), asn: 15169(-1.92), country: US(-0.09)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:04:46 -0000 >> Thanks for the info. It looks like I've got some work ahead of me. >> I'll look into that once I finish building FF from ports which, as I'm >> writing this, is still in progress after about 2 hours. > > I'd suggest you interrupt the build right now. It _could_ > happen that a file system inconsistency causes a defective > binary to be generated without you noticing. Perform the > forced fsck in SUM first, then "make clean", and finally > restart the build - just to be sure... I halted the building process and did as you suggested earlier. There were indeed a number of inconsistencies and corrupted files when I ran fsck in single-user mode. I re-installed Firefox using pkg and I successfully launched it. So far so good. I'll keep an eye on it, though I might try continuing to build it via ports. One thing I didn't mention earlier was that, before I had the kernel panics earlier today, each time I tried starting FF, I had to reset everything. Evidently, some of the preference files had been corrupted but either couldn't be restored or would be damaged each time I ran it. Then again, considering that today is Tuesday the 13th.... Thanks again. I learned something new. BMJ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 21:09:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55441132108 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:09:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g8kbvdave@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42a.google.com (mail-wr1-x42a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABB7A780DB for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g8kbvdave@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x42a.google.com with SMTP id u9-v6so14928459wrr.0 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:09:24 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=mK74PJAQSMD7oOQJh16iqeuLWUsaVyF32jtx4f7lYdA=; b=EHxdWTgDLlm8Yh98dWm8ygOsYJDLiKRA6OiufoUiOH+KczdX3BozOGZyoykE5lXmuF Fxlb3kE5MS3lI565Frm8v8fKp8fyIeDsGu8sXEHL4QzW1X9QzwpEXcwqxXcCE+gNZTlW W/SLoGnW6f0kk/sJ99+hQrFt4qyiJquCF4tGM677tcAcNKZ4Nb3f8cEn2jIfNM+myn1f TvjGq1WlUnZE5Ar2kJzSFV49ssswEaeSK8oihvxXqpnmRwm3q++baaqfz65TuUlMO2ch MQRbE1A4dNRHsYALP/RAwxFejvq+UDKy5dkj6udZKusKEXrE2Xpi1JwC04NhwgPoCyBG UQVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKzFpTldvM8ZibBoAzzTLJetckcodtQOIrAFVDyyCspBbqbfv8F l7o/ROICkBdLpXPlfTjJ14IqzkVC X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fI2Tdr8OmPXKzqD/Rxp3X7Q1IqtyK7AOeAuJ2lu/c59Go1vDPLlRqEIftuasDciMMA6FR6lg== X-Received: by 2002:adf:ca03:: with SMTP id o3-v6mr6430148wrh.148.1542143362387; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.42.13] ([212.225.114.94]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b5-v6sm15910379wma.17.2018.11.13.13.09.21 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:09:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Program to find CPU temperature? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Dave B Message-ID: <102abd1d-1fdd-9c59-4a09-df5d95db1bd5@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:09:19 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: ABB7A780DB X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.69 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.89)[-0.886,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.79)[ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-1.95), asn: 15169(-1.92), country: US(-0.09)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[a.2.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:09:26 -0000 Probably the thermal compound between CPU and cooler has dried out and lost it's thermally conducting properties, an all too common a problem, even on higher end products!. If it's a laptop, it's well worth stripping them down each year and evicting all the accumulated dust bunnies that build up with use especially if used in a carpeted room, and/or you have cats! Take care to create an ESD safe (equipotential, not necessarily "grounded" work area.)  Take pictures as you dismantle things, so you know where it all goes back together later on. Enjoy! Dave B. On 13/11/2018 20:24, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote:     > Other computer, with the overheating problem, makes me wonder if the heatsink itself, as opposed to the CPU fan, is no longer functional. > > Otherwise, perhaps something could be going amiss on the CPU or motherboard. > > Tom -- Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using free and open source software: From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 21:18:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32CA113249B for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd32.google.com (mail-io1-xd32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF77A785E2 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jd1008@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd32.google.com with SMTP id u19so5837771ioc.2 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:18:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iFyz1Jmcz2qUZmQ12SX2l54RsysyIVYEAvh2tUrNIAQ=; b=DDSmzPUcjF0anmmxToZDjuI9JfUjYls8Ve1qAg+z7AYgfps3q159EoidDlvMrCEkgl E/RHeavLhIj5W4FGF90kBu9oQfXFWOwzXrldysU5KlCcwLw2f2QXDk0lDCrjPCISClvk 8DoyJaO4wF9+GGq0pvQzx4Z6yPbupMchh71xCFaSCXpDKZkSVR4d0EeBZ1HzlcoGmLKZ NHg1QLi44sH6Vempvf5L4c7sAmiYvK45XZ0wWBfK8jCy1bPAtJXsx3bnhIelpHrBA/fO ztikUA7Cm+7NczWw+wOXfr2mTg4ISnfdDL6qKA9Cyh/89hm5YRMEEQyKScSYX6AyODTN Bsvg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iFyz1Jmcz2qUZmQ12SX2l54RsysyIVYEAvh2tUrNIAQ=; b=qCjeiB7EIFZyzdiaZhK4OhJNGT1Je+skZLdDVKF5vsMeW5Zw+klNUoKSOV9zina8JW 9vfw2JYOIrd6QEeHU3ZCOilnj02PcefwjPs6o5Db5S8Nf0VXWbQewg9Pxr/rhXqxF8d9 uTWQ6gHqzrLyAbb1MvGh5durOargCgGnyazAfbJDlyrR3Fpx4RUoycfCy6OBBkpKzFu9 eAMAvb6pB4x8hKJJ3jHwTQ3f5s/90GBsxNHx+LHi126rP4TXFmw3J02nswmmAXFbSDOg P8YfBT/qYlQAR3NYz1M5Xk7ed0T6TecysIFBUNE5V4J1Hv5q//0bEzjBPQ9xR7sonBDN R4kA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKM6Vp44HXYEyrRVAT/TM32lMyy374ToZHqn+xYBDQ7I57nhwIT pGOtq7jUMRevM0/71NxBmVKbVa+d X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5eryXOtz8lHrwRji03O88cBaRZ930fQWzU9gRZpiU+hH4hOVoD6thjGF9Q+/rPnUwbpiSnUnA== X-Received: by 2002:a6b:5b02:: with SMTP id v2-v6mr5689015ioh.157.1542143888788; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:18:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (50-243-4-3-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. 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References: <102abd1d-1fdd-9c59-4a09-df5d95db1bd5@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <102abd1d-1fdd-9c59-4a09-df5d95db1bd5@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: EF77A785E2 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.91 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.92)[-0.919,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.98)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.89), asn: 15169(-1.92), country: US(-0.09)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:18:11 -0000 On 11/13/2018 02:09 PM, Dave B via freebsd-questions wrote: > Probably the thermal compound between CPU and cooler has dried out and > lost it's thermally conducting properties, an all too common a problem, > even on higher end products!. > > If it's a laptop, it's well worth stripping them down each year and > evicting all the accumulated dust bunnies that build up with use > especially if used in a carpeted room, and/or you have cats! > > Take care to create an ESD safe (equipotential, not necessarily > "grounded" work area.) Take pictures as you dismantle things, so you > know where it all goes back together later on. > > Enjoy! > > Dave B. > > On 13/11/2018 20:24, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > > >> Other computer, with the overheating problem, makes me wonder if the heatsink itself, as opposed to the CPU fan, is no longer functional. >> >> Otherwise, perhaps something could be going amiss on the CPU or motherboard. >> >> Tom Hey Tom, I had the same problem with my laptop. Turned out the problems were the themal compound had indeed dried up AND the fan was dyig and slowed way down no matter how I tried to set it's speed to max. Doing the fix on a laptop is really much more difficult than a desktop. But I did it, and the laptop has been running without a hitch for the last 3 years. Good luck From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 21:49:19 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4445A1133784 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76BF57A244 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:49:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mg6Na-1fqOTF3G1u-00hfsO; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:49:15 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:49:15 +0100 From: Polytropon To: B J Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Kernel Panics With Firefox 63.x Message-Id: <20181113224915.9429e289.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20181113182954.1d7060bd.freebsd@edvax.de> <20181113201830.f0eec001.freebsd@edvax.de> <20181113205020.afc446d9.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:VMQAhlqWtTyJlwI19d0y+jEyblmNMnB3QE6JBhl7X//MlhsoqdO AeqnAec+riFe2nyXhJ1QgXb1p4Zl2qwFyXVRzlxfCb2L0gjsuQ5BvLJDx5dPIF9vGummdwK 6qHdHF5dDRH8hIMjRkj8Q6P5MUDiiIxnevBS0JWchyQ59CGUdwdUp5h1lzd3352llZcx3sV S48TDdUQEwFX+y15xfQJA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:vclPGTFnE9A=:XdYMO95gUnHwinPkTHjqza cMNgXpsmHEErrPUyr33Vci7QYTa9BhAX3LSdqVC7Th1F4CI+p8BZQvlyGJi+Bepr3vHbo+zDe VR2Q2UHi/9TmG4kJSdmKEOrLyQsNgLMRlpBi7ic40lj27BKbbj4oPq6jpP+BfX9WOihaomvMu dHOOPh+Kl8ab/T+5tXpx1u/rLO4RqeyJqD9CKJQV1TbWqh7Ml7NEH9YbodMLmFaV0BT/jqOEL 7ytyQERX+fhpNbbyrwoF6AuAb9wzhHhXFF3aF+4yzzPQpFjPETNiD39AoAjf9XU6KeliPLbWN 6JMOYCmAozngaMPN42Ybcx9NHqKp1g8K4smW0xbs0Q23fYdAKQU2Qb5sIcQ2vybFydGyMYmOl kuYL88J7ghGw+GQk8tiWRua1d7/IUeYn29vYADs26wvn7ALkie7OnnzlMW++cJg5BGZ2pSpKn CQ5nXGQ/wcqeZnvrJdIWI31AMtz1tu16vA9Yy8r9DmMwgUBuf9atCw0AjunT/cNfl5sVF1qRH /4fNXblcXL3lgzSkqD8/Gj//K9Au7wH5BCyg0wZt7BI/2/5Arikj+qEt5jex63NlLT1b3U44J NsnAERFRSLGmFXbzPe1f59ljzT4yloa0FEDt6FYJ/s/Uwcb7NgqfQAM+MvPqR0HxwvaKkSR1C q8EtP+Iw5L2oRCwAvJn0yV5Zm5lgs48KAZ5621Y5s512bP1+nuZ//wVhvP57vKx4S1xHKjfAh a+J1BBaochk3HQD/ATBmuC66Y+AbW+a026M/uTmihwq6tZxMqHdnuGjtnLaFaJdq2KSRWJcnn K04gxcgvzTzgFBwZKqt7lmG8/tLcA== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 76BF57A244 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.79 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx00.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; IP_SCORE(0.11)[ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-0.11), asn: 8560(0.66), country: DE(-0.01)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[181.180.193.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.49)[-0.489,0]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.61)[0.612,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.83)[-0.826,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:49:19 -0000 On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 21:04:43 +0000, B J wrote: > > > >> Thanks for the info. It looks like I've got some work ahead of me. > >> I'll look into that once I finish building FF from ports which, as I'm > >> writing this, is still in progress after about 2 hours. > > > > I'd suggest you interrupt the build right now. It _could_ > > happen that a file system inconsistency causes a defective > > binary to be generated without you noticing. Perform the > > forced fsck in SUM first, then "make clean", and finally > > restart the build - just to be sure... > > > > I halted the building process and did as you suggested earlier. There > were indeed a number of inconsistencies and corrupted files when I ran > fsck in single-user mode. Excellent! Always make sure the file system consistency is present _before_ the system boots; relying on background fsck just asks trouble. ;-) Technical sidenote: The background fsck can only handle a subset of errors. Common errors, sure, but sometimes there is something it cannot correct or repair, and you boot into an inconsistent system state, but without any warning. A foreground fsck makes sure that _if_ such a problem is recognized, you will be interactively prompted, so you can decide what to do. In very few cases you do _not_ want fsck to do anything, as it might make data recovery more problematic; for example, you first decide to "mount -o ro /something", retrieve data, then run fsck and maybe end up with zero length files (whose content you have already recovered), and then you "re-fill" those files; or you need to use fsdb to help fsck with a problem it cannot work around. However, for typical use, a foreground fsck will be the right thing to do. You gain safety by paying with downtime. You usually don't pay with data loss. :-) > One thing I didn't mention earlier was that, before I had the kernel > panics earlier today, each time I tried starting FF, I had to reset > everything. Evidently, some of the preference files had been > corrupted but either couldn't be restored or would be damaged each > time I ran it. Firefox today uses a quite complex structure of files to store settings. Combine this with a file system inconsistency, and you can easily end up with files that get rewritten or reset, but are still damaged at the next program start. In case the same inodes were used, the file would always be somehow damaged, and even if a process of unlink() and open() / fopen() to create it would allocate a different inode, it's still possible that the problem was within the parent inode - and only a proper fsck would have been able to fix this problem. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[0.3.a.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.953,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.94)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.75), asn: 15169(-1.85), country: US(-0.09)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 02:48:24 -0000 On 11/13/18, Polytropon wrote: >> I halted the building process and did as you suggested earlier. There >> were indeed a number of inconsistencies and corrupted files when I ran >> fsck in single-user mode. > > Excellent! > > Always make sure the file system consistency is present > _before_ the system boots; relying on background fsck > just asks trouble. ;-) > > Technical sidenote: The background fsck can only handle > a subset of errors. Common errors, sure, but sometimes > there is something it cannot correct or repair, and you > boot into an inconsistent system state, but without any > warning. A foreground fsck makes sure that _if_ such a > problem is recognized, you will be interactively prompted, > so you can decide what to do. In very few cases you do > _not_ want fsck to do anything, as it might make data > recovery more problematic; for example, you first decide > to "mount -o ro /something", retrieve data, then run > fsck and maybe end up with zero length files (whose > content you have already recovered), and then you "re-fill" > those files; or you need to use fsdb to help fsck with > a problem it cannot work around. > > However, for typical use, a foreground fsck will be the > right thing to do. You gain safety by paying with downtime. > You usually don't pay with data loss. :-) I've used fsck when working with external hard drives, but it never dawned on me to use it for the main one. > Firefox today uses a quite complex structure of files to > store settings. Combine this with a file system inconsistency, > and you can easily end up with files that get rewritten or > reset, but are still damaged at the next program start. > In case the same inodes were used, the file would always > be somehow damaged, and even if a process of unlink() and > open() / fopen() to create it would allocate a different > inode, it's still possible that the problem was within the > parent inode - and only a proper fsck would have been able > to fix this problem. I remember that Firefox used to be shown as a single process when running top. In the last year or so, it was changed and now it uses several of them. If I want to kill FF, I have to do it to just about every one of them. How many there are seems to be related to factors such as the number of tabs or windows I might have open. I've been running the newly-installed FF for the past few hours and there hasn't been any problems yet. BMJ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 14 05:39:11 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B93A110AA2A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 05:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6758EAB7 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 05:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from 220-253-47-54.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO leader.local) ([220.253.47.54]) by ipmail07.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2018 16:09:00 +1030 Subject: Re: Program to find CPU temperature? To: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20181113115826.D665AA2E7F@mail-av3.superb.net> From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: <9b28f308-eea8-38f5-6ea0-0a8cfc7ce463@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 16:08:58 +1030 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181113115826.D665AA2E7F@mail-av3.superb.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-AU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1D6758EAB7 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.45 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.56)[-0.560,0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[131.137.101.150.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.85)[-0.846,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ShaneWare.Biz]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.02)[0.021,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx.superb.net]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[twc.com]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[131.137.101.150.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:4739, ipnet:150.101.0.0/16, country:AU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.06)[asn: 4739(-0.26), country: AU(-0.04)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[54.47.253.220.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 05:39:11 -0000 On 13/11/18 10:22 pm, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I am looking for a program to find the CPU and perhaps system temperature, either in base system or ports. > > I tried "sysctl -a | grep "temp" (or temperature) and couldn't find anything. As others suggested `kldload coretemp`, or add coretemp_load="YES" to loader.conf Some ports that can read other sensors such as mainboard temp and fan speeds - sysutils/xmbmon misc/digitemp sysutils/bsdhwmon sysutils/consolehm sysutils/lmmon -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Nov 14 15:32:21 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DBD112B6C1 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 15:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54197BB9D for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 15:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7A2AD112B6BF; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 15:32:20 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5832A112B6BE for ; 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NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.92)[-0.918,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 15:32:21 -0000 It would appear that something has changed in the networking OS headers in a way that breaks the sockaddr_in6 definition. Can someone help me figure out what is missing here or what has changed with the ordering that *BSD require software to use with these headers in 11.2? This has happened with a squid-4.4 build: Making all in eDirectory_userip depbase=`echo ext_edirectory_userip_acl.o | sed 's|[^/]*$|.deps/&|;s|\.o$||'`; clang++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DDEFAULT_CONFIG_FILE=\"/opt/squid-4/etc/squid.conf\" -DDEFAULT_SQUID_DATA_DIR=\"/opt/squid-4/share\" -DDEFAULT_SQUID_CONFIG_DIR=\"/opt/squid-4/etc\" -I../../../.. -I../../../../include -I../../../../lib -I../../../../src -I../../../../include -I/usr/include -I/usr/include -I../../../../libltdl -I/usr/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -Werror -Qunused-arguments -Wno-deprecated-register -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/p11-kit-1 -g -O2 -march=native -I/usr/local/include -MT ext_edirectory_userip_acl.o -MD -MP -MF $depbase.Tpo -c -o ext_edirectory_userip_acl.o ext_edirectory_userip_acl.cc && mv -f $depbase.Tpo $depbase.Po ext_edirectory_userip_acl.cc:891:31: error: use of undeclared identifier 'AF_INET6' if (dst->ai_family == AF_INET6) { ^ ext_edirectory_userip_acl.cc:893:64: error: member access into incomplete type 'struct sockaddr_in6' const char *ia = reinterpret_cast(sia->sin6_addr.s6_addr); ^ ext_edirectory_userip_acl.cc:892:20: note: forward declaration of 'sockaddr_in6' struct sockaddr_in6 *sia = reinterpret_cast(dst->ai_addr); ^ ext_edirectory_userip_acl.cc:893:66: error: expected ')' const char *ia = reinterpret_cast(sia->sin6_addr.s6_addr); ^ ext_edirectory_userip_acl.cc:893:60: note: to match this '(' const char *ia = reinterpret_cast(sia->sin6_addr.s6_addr); ^ ext_edirectory_userip_acl.cc:896:38: error: use of undeclared identifier 'AF_INET' } else if (dst->ai_family == AF_INET) { ^ ext_edirectory_userip_acl.cc:898:66: error: member access into incomplete type 'struct sockaddr_in' const char *ia = reinterpret_cast(&(sia->sin_addr)); ^ ext_edirectory_userip_acl.cc:897:20: note: forward declaration of 'sockaddr_in' struct sockaddr_in *sia = reinterpret_cast(dst->ai_addr); ^ 5 errors generated. *** Error code 1 -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 15 04:04:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553BE112136C for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (ipq210.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A0CD7F8DE for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:04:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3CA1175AC; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 13:04:24 +0900 (JST) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost-backdoor.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E83D3A456; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 13:04:24 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 73EAF3A455; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 13:04:23 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 13:03:09 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20181115.130309.304364958164187844.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Building and installing base system from source tree in non-default directory From: Yasuhiro KIMURA X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3A0CD7F8DE X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.07 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.84)[-0.843,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:spf-authorized.utahime.org]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[utahime.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.93)[-0.931,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.utahime.org,mx2.utahime.org]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.25)[0.250,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2519, ipnet:183.180.0.0/16, country:JP]; IP_SCORE(0.26)[asn: 2519(1.42), country: JP(-0.10)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:04:38 -0000 Hello, Is it possible to checkout base source tree to somewhere other than /usr/src and to build and install base system by using it? If it is possible then are some special settings in /etc/src.conf and/or additional arguments of make(1) required? Or do simply going to top of source tree and executing 'make buildworld' or other targets work fine? 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Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:58:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8C770533 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:58:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E91F33C0B; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 09:50:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 02F8414AA6BB; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 09:49:59 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Yasuhiro KIMURA Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building and installing base system from source tree in non-default directory References: <20181115.130309.304364958164187844.yasu@utahime.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 09:49:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20181115.130309.304364958164187844.yasu@utahime.org> (Yasuhiro KIMURA's message of "Thu, 15 Nov 2018 13:03:09 +0900 (JST)") Message-ID: <44wope1jl4.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2A8C770533 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.55 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.75)[-0.748,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.28)[0.277,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.92)[-0.916,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ilk.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: be-well.ilk.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.15)[ip: (0.11), ipnet: 23.30.0.0/15(0.06), asn: 7922(-0.84), country: US(-0.10)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:58:12 -0000 Yasuhiro KIMURA writes: > Is it possible to checkout base source tree to somewhere other than > /usr/src and to build and install base system by using it? > > If it is possible then are some special settings in /etc/src.conf > and/or additional arguments of make(1) required? Or do simply going > to top of source tree and executing 'make buildworld' or other targets > work fine? To the best of my recall, it should just work. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 15 16:30:51 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D577C11029ED for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:30:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from husseydevin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x930.google.com (mail-ua1-x930.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::930]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42BDB73919 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:30:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from husseydevin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x930.google.com with SMTP id v24so7199493uap.13 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 08:30:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=TiWVnt4UQLJ3rUmO2FLJK3XNdbQzJaMeL+4O8S2Y6C4=; b=URg38gclxM7s39af/c4J8+N7rXhyAnz3S7/uyigaN4BL08rOz6PQIto4yldrDRpj42 7/MnqGD/6CsvyegKfzqDwCL5kv/lzJivJLkC1SK+dw6yi20PWPGu7Q+Wl6JJkOJXZwM7 F9RzlqT+REXlVmhedlMOL/6kkLQBuQFnLJLCZXDbigHnC/wV2iUBHwFmdWzg1pHJKG4f RSDVA0gT1IsqobDMzhO5tF5FJxXsPU7USNgLf3DOEDJZIo1OJCJDmEKVfGDQN3Ruzjgl RC+r8lwaNlu3+2HGR6cSBMyGMMy4tTB7jNbw9/SIpeH7WgiFrk5Vq6C5RAPJaUBtJMpO YNZA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=TiWVnt4UQLJ3rUmO2FLJK3XNdbQzJaMeL+4O8S2Y6C4=; b=ihHtrIK6wyh1yYGZ5mX8tTUIjK1hlS2JPFkkqMhyS7kgFb+lH+yX5sHLRrM8lInRFE c5BWzjOgDv0EG5EEqsOyJgaHXFcDadANWopk4iORXTvn7cVzoZH8vbnfOSXNq4j8uQ5M XhzW7a/pH3f3x/rp32UyJSzRtueZPSu55/+dITP3XNrEGjyXYL88Y7tQpcYYKpyd9euo vxu96hPtmOtcr4F+yRGlFF6grQt+sAXzC23KjD8tjXswmuAgTxFtiYxMbZuNuS15YG/b UugfMDaEjNVA2uWnRpDl46uEFvVZTxudmaO3aBdGW1OfjLrUOYlxXBI6IQr6xWjh87u+ 6vxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJLugIMCL7gb8esZfdc98dSFZQO53mUSfn6Raw/UfbqXDu+vvRX xQB4pwq1L4vyKFzwsxnUbmH9Pd0Wi5ALnR6Xqcovxg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5dw9MxxxkajHVrZG10cNtLaWTRtZMukW0LSnOxw7l5IRFcT2SHqjlKDLWC1qiqT1xZXcCaFK1cOU1NczkWoD2I= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:2314:: with SMTP id a20mr3096743uao.130.1542299449219; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 08:30:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a9f:288a:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 08:30:48 -0800 (PST) From: Devin Hussey Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 11:30:48 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Question about porting sh tests to dash. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 42BDB73919 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.87 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[0.3.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.949,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.91)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.65), asn: 15169(-1.81), country: US(-0.10)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:30:51 -0000 The dash shell has a complete lack of quality control. It has a total of zero tests, which is a problem considering it is supposed to be the reliable workhorse /bin/sh on many Linux distros. For example, I have seen a patch that was so buggy that dash couldn't even run its own ./configure script. Despite this, two versions were released without it even being noticed. Recently, it happened again: Another patch was released which broke variable expansion, five other patches pushed, a supposed "fix" for the buggy patch, that didn't even fix the most obvious bug. dash, like FreeBSD's sh, is based off of ash, and therefore would be compatible with most or all of the FreeBSD tests. I was considering porting some or all of the sh test suite to dash (obviously giving credit), as the tests are remarkably thorough. I want to know if you are all okay with it. Obviously, some tweaks would be required, such as how the tests are run. However, it would still save weeks, if not months of repetitive work and would prevent/fix many serious bugs in the codebase. Thanks, Devin Hussey From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 15 16:59:17 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BF0110331B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:59:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (ipq210.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6BFF747E9 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68D0A176E3; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 01:59:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost-backdoor.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97463A8C9; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 01:59:10 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0293D3A8C8; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 01:59:08 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 01:58:41 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20181116.015841.712407920792928807.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building and installing base system from source tree in non-default directory From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: <44wope1jl4.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <20181115.130309.304364958164187844.yasu@utahime.org> <44wope1jl4.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B6BFF747E9 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.76 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.11)[-0.109,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:spf-authorized.utahime.org]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[utahime.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.88)[-0.875,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.utahime.org]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.32)[0.316,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2519, ipnet:183.180.0.0/16, country:JP]; IP_SCORE(0.24)[asn: 2519(1.31), country: JP(-0.10)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:59:17 -0000 From: Lowell Gilbert Subject: Re: Building and installing base system from source tree in non-default directory Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 09:49:59 -0500 > To the best of my recall, it should just work. Thank you for reply. I'm going to update my 13-CURRENT system this weekend. So I will try it. --- Yasuhiro KIMURA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 15 17:08:52 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00DF1103742 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 17:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuripv@yuripv.net) Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D879B74E52 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 17:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuripv@yuripv.net) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591D7CB6; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:08:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:08:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yuripv.net; h= subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type; s=fm3; bh=Fvh7r8VzbBXUE+R+rmd9dSK99MZ ZCDxMHcBekEzM1bQ=; b=NmxmKY+GwV4Y0H4Z7RgQt2VL3z+aTyqb+C0gMACjSlB VHBsavMLg9n/MBcLaitEweEl7bUwc5zNlFR+4xpf43j1hAdR/Jo5W8XJfT67VPMn R+HlkmbQYBqszI4EGygdRWNSqYOn+ycno+hnhAO9u3FMQ5O98lK61L3N8Sdu5mgV LcHUTe+JOocvp2ROGWsOD7UdDX+yt822+8DGaEkZbmsKGLkzhLhaD7JPG48kEGzh KFQTBbu2BSRHDRki6XY1sIX5m9kaBaorejBpthzVxC+u5LiJbr4ILCnd7VEiruAB iThd5kssb6Yj0fpwVD1fcXhR858kScHfrQ4e7F/4+zw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=Fvh7r8 VzbBXUE+R+rmd9dSK99MZZCDxMHcBekEzM1bQ=; b=KwizKDtYc3ElKwEEpslrLX OBWc+hWLD5vcUpJqKm20DfuQX1YQ8fL6QQqzoRd5bPUlUpFWLuyDXxXQ6cqu3Pgp fUkys8svQW91AHEw/Lc2Vg6xD/+VAzaJU64GQaxHagjLgie3rA22IiFd3j0Hwp07 WhT9fG2eeVG09NTW3XOg+IPDvZKgIlYnFcwP0T6GuFF4pQmEDvhsAveBWcRFHYRt ergVtbHHIVPjhI9uadurkFURb90YRthai/oPjSDTnQxZAiaKeMwJlR9FtW7AAzAd p3LI6JN7Xl0iyFTwIdPYraOLArFlZ9e+3uMH5EFzQn1xHVOcGn/oTvsKxj/y6TWg == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy: Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [94.233.225.58]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2E198E4472; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:08:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Question about porting sh tests to dash. To: Devin Hussey , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Yuri Pankov Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=yuripv@yuripv.net; keydata= xsBNBFu8u6IBCADB11gP0QwnorrHjqAtKLHKHNHskhy0s7jqJKfx0YqXgVBKGLJ9/mjLAz0F CBNvemHSDDTs0mEZ9cBKKi6cmsav6+UQgr//yai6hvXLBJqKchSFO4MhmdvBtsGFq1yKz5Zi uhjmimKyIpgBgvMdbgGbGq6cnSB2uEPmZuJr419SVRODOkXukU+F5WHgaHzDdHAIu1asCt2B +6msxqIqlFWcXyZyTGicTGGvC/PFIsVRUtD1dIJANTC876g7DTb7LZXWiWwJpSJ4GKMXMHVX Ct9BoQ4i3nhKbOxb6Io1wsy+NFyWsTJ9KYrxKKPJP3oG8BWb/cqlFqnE4eNSsiq2q7krABEB AAHNH1l1cmkgUGFua292IDx5dXJpcHZAeXVyaXB2Lm5ldD7CwJcEEwEIAEECGwMFCQWjmoAF CwkIBwMFFQoJCAsFFgMCAQACHgECF4AWIQT4arc+w94tPi0v/3CTi+B/sSrhbAUCW708wAIZ AQAKCRCTi+B/sSrhbPxBB/961alcU091O+yKT5/oReHVc/PX0Tz4sW3V44AcgLfYlrZavCro EFz90qmCrl0xqEwuAKcC4bjmL8SjPWAhSN6IH9nxdw+HeZnAPiHm/q679Bu47+nHBl3qD/9p +t1PkKeKZfaWToFMt1nq06ytSu6VLMCwLdlDNe6DReX0ex/afEqKsuaIZSKL4UYjRwklp8PU Uf98QkrfapyHB67hQMzfI4tPeJaYyv0cTgfq3kUWJx1V6Xi0b6Zxj4ZrB2TXvaMO5g7yhU9E E3WWAvoe4FgB3a7dHe8atnHhq5+Cuvm6+LD4Jh7jvMAE5UMN+xxQpnGpNghHjaCy4vXrLRBZ nhRYzsBNBFu8u6IBCADKih3Q933rDNj4ZA8FhBQ2RlmBgvwOLcDPIL3h0V7h38y3+HisgFSc XACDsdrTlYZ1bRXkD9FHENynBcv0l/3uGJDk8jaGIDE0TP8OQBRp+IaU9/BHnAqrKxTJGIol Dahy2m+yx2yhdc6B4ujWMDqCF1rWOD+ymOWw+VLllOkrHcZa5PJtX9UOGbApZl8ZTM8El4CA NN8F1bg9MWzUi+8LYoGWGc+BwsFS1OUB1c4SPgMu5fD4Wfsr9yRl06fdpEA2YT7B/j5/5RSC 0sE2Zs/tmJ/JRflHJ12ycj59ma2xQMfEJF40hZDpMFQmZvbVqgEg3ocQcltjbxlIKZ/mjC4z ABEBAAHCwHwEGAEKACYWIQT4arc+w94tPi0v/3CTi+B/sSrhbAUCW7y7ogIbDAUJBaOagAAK CRCTi+B/sSrhbIDcCACqAZMcoxUBLZa40a5b24j5i1jplvCYYb3h+Q5lt5+BFJ87kCb4dJuU D3kh2i29BrxWQWa9WNue9ozxeYkbkfXubQYXexVolRsnh64OdGsE8KvorBFBB3zdK/GRt2Jy +jsnTfUWuQllbzMP0MfhCDMk1Mo8WvDH2/cOEP/yLKf20a+cd6nLs7bidjmGXo9pyuBKAtV6 Kv+VRu54AL+A/UBYu/eB3Dtvzcnut+1Zq6KaP++kUwPwINLIk04OBDwN0zRNTiqMAFYYyz2v ZHBB6E1th/l//ZC5b9Dk0ZpFI1bYdL9ymnrZe1MqbGPnDCToQxu00T/pZCm6Z92YrZQYuNwl Message-ID: <57acbcc0-50cf-827a-f7e3-edbfd50d42d5@yuripv.net> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 20:08:37 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WU89KU4QuPihVugTjq8m4ePcFxqzShJik" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D879B74E52 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-9.26 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yuripv.net,messagingengine.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:64.147.123.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/mixed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[yuripv.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yuripv.net:+,messagingengine.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[in2-smtp.messagingengine.com,in1-smtp.messagingengine.com,in2-smtp.messagingengine.com,in1-smtp.messagingengine.com,in2-smtp.messagingengine.com,in1-smtp.messagingengine.com,in2-smtp.messagingengine.com,in1-smtp.messagingengine.com]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.56)[ip: (-9.19), ipnet: 64.147.123.0/24(-4.59), asn: 11403(-3.91), country: US(-0.10)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:64.147.123.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[25.123.147.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 17:08:52 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --WU89KU4QuPihVugTjq8m4ePcFxqzShJik Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ytlny5Og1580IpD3dvrx3r6KYW1kjtxkN"; protected-headers="v1" From: Yuri Pankov To: Devin Hussey , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <57acbcc0-50cf-827a-f7e3-edbfd50d42d5@yuripv.net> Subject: Re: Question about porting sh tests to dash. References: In-Reply-To: --ytlny5Og1580IpD3dvrx3r6KYW1kjtxkN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Devin Hussey wrote: > The dash shell has a complete lack of quality control. It has a total > of zero tests, which is a problem considering it is supposed to be the > reliable workhorse /bin/sh on many Linux distros. >=20 > For example, I have seen a patch that was so buggy that dash couldn't > even run its own ./configure script. Despite this, two versions were > released without it even being noticed. Recently, it happened again: > Another patch was released which broke variable expansion, five other > patches pushed, a supposed "fix" for the buggy patch, that didn't even > fix the most obvious bug. >=20 > dash, like FreeBSD's sh, is based off of ash, and therefore would be > compatible with most or all of the FreeBSD tests. >=20 > I was considering porting some or all of the sh test suite to dash > (obviously giving credit), as the tests are remarkably thorough. I > want to know if you are all okay with it. There's no need to ask, the license text describes all you can (or can not) do. It would be nice though if you could give back any useful changes/fixes. > Obviously, some tweaks would be required, such as how the tests are > run. However, it would still save weeks, if not months of repetitive > work and would prevent/fix many serious bugs in the codebase. Or you could just use kyua/atf the tests are using, and save yourself even more time :-) --ytlny5Og1580IpD3dvrx3r6KYW1kjtxkN-- --WU89KU4QuPihVugTjq8m4ePcFxqzShJik Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE+Gq3PsPeLT4tL/9wk4vgf7Eq4WwFAlvtqB4ACgkQk4vgf7Eq 4WxMDQf9ELjvs/qnK9GLB0E2TlNSdjb8jCXUcViMQzadNgVxzbrjgEV5vVU78/i4 m1QqLlPUcd9en2Mxii5NmwEonBehPysEOYJBTspF8dug+TsGT8bGPrDjEPA8EjQS PUVaVY4lsDuvRG+AQ2R4mBBHnbHzyKMAH6s9ycCZd74Xh6HrMAV8nVP75gCpCwt5 S3dzKPdQEjfxBUHystcM5D7VTrlz8MQDKYp1ej7OZVjRR2NK06tx/7CdWlIIA/Tj Bd8LTjw9FyKow09shhtx9+u14xhAH3+UI+byh+lPt8usIsWGIwOaNv5nRmu0cG1I V5+sObnwlUoEOdzup0YMLr8EeU+STw== =SvVq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WU89KU4QuPihVugTjq8m4ePcFxqzShJik-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 15 17:19:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE421103B9D for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 17:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 815F675336 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 17:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id wAFHIpEa074325 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 10:18:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken Subject: ports: 11.2 install incompatible with portsnap? To: freeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <0b12bf4c-8a2a-9642-7e72-600b6798543d@dreamchaser.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 10:18:14 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Thu, 15 Nov 2018 10:18:52 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 815F675336 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.40 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.34)[0.344,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.96)[-0.956,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[nightmare.dreamchaser.org]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.34)[0.344,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.10)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 17:19:00 -0000 Haven't seen this on previous releases: Installed 11.2 release with ports. Built a large number of ports, then one failed. Went to update ports tree and it complained: Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching public key from your-org.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Fetching snapshot tag from your-org.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Fetching snapshot generated at Wed Nov 14 17:08:26 MST 2018: 55e6e00532155c422c0ee46824a8765642480a924fcc8e100% of 86 MB 368 kBps 03m59s Extracting snapshot... done. Verifying snapshot integrity... done. Fetching snapshot tag from your-org.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Updating from Wed Nov 14 17:08:26 MST 2018 to Thu Nov 15 07:19:59 MST 2018. Fetching 5 metadata patches... done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 0 metadata files... done. Fetching 38 patches. (38/38) 100.00% done. done. Applying patches... done. Fetching 2 new ports or files... done. root@breakaway:/usr/ports # portsnap update /usr/ports was not created by portsnap. You must run 'portsnap extract' before running 'portsnap update'. Note the next-to-last line: /usr/ports was not created by portsnap. That may be true. It was created during a sysinstall, but I don't know what the mechanism used to create it was. Is this now normal? Thanks for any insights, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Nov 15 20:38:59 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD311108EC8 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 20:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x32c.google.com (mail-wm1-x32c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF76A7D370 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 20:38:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x32c.google.com with SMTP id r63-v6so20169204wma.4 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:38:58 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wCuruzBPW5H5K18/Sb6M3xUvK9e5IpO3x6oBbDeVSfg=; b=QNXAzdqcnOaWMGq2OVZzFkBHvM1kv3xZrd30SxpPP0CaD6+1DeGuIfp3Vrc70izen2 DBljsL/jcTSV2X8Ue55vjn+S3JG4j2cmh70wIwqW04/6gSqR7rf/9XBzVOR/KfOkafCJ DJLsD5cYxWkdoCyMLUYU2W9ZaT+S8CzFKgplXuyKtI1TVTRo4dXtvnNFBsZl0RBGhMYQ OD9pnAaIkLxZ6KgYQYuhgHJ9dFMZONOvBuI+0Na5AsGofmvBCM/d4L+t1QZPXO95BSWK amvsmpmRH03QLsFoqAhUnlzUgQi+3daBFJ45H4Dtw5NV0wvUjJFrMOjoV54Vnt/iDOhN ZI1w== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gIqATO+0c2d2fwHNj/vzDHMy4x97vOvqZLA+Jo4r8wpiQgTjoZW fB4tpMrRo57FqWVOUY2MI0n4ZJ9Dr8A= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fh0v5Zm1sLmEA+qx1uJa8bH88sBKeabR1LqzEGqhZ6rlloGMZvOAhWeLdanpFpUTGwfT2+3Q== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:34d1:: with SMTP id b200-v6mr382800wma.115.1542314337220; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:38:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([90.211.70.103]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j195-v6sm13430763wmf.13.2018.11.15.12.38.55 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 15 Nov 2018 12:38:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 20:38:53 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports: 11.2 install incompatible with portsnap? Message-ID: <20181115203853.74f6d6d5@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <0b12bf4c-8a2a-9642-7e72-600b6798543d@dreamchaser.org> References: <0b12bf4c-8a2a-9642-7e72-600b6798543d@dreamchaser.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: AF76A7D370 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.67 / 200.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.90)[-0.898,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[103.70.211.90.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.76)[ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-1.88), asn: 15169(-1.81), country: US(-0.10)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 20:38:59 -0000 On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 10:18:14 -0700 Gary Aitken wrote: > root@breakaway:/usr/ports # portsnap update > /usr/ports was not created by portsnap. > You must run 'portsnap extract' before running 'portsnap update'. > > Note the next-to-last line: > /usr/ports was not created by portsnap. > > That may be true. It was created during a sysinstall, but > I don't know what the mechanism used to create it was. > As a general rule update tools should be allowed to start with a clean directory unless you know for a fact that adopting a exiting tree is harmless. portsnap keeps a hidden file in the ports directory that records what it installed in that instance of the port tree - it need to be there to perform an update. > Is this now normal? I think it always was. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 16 00:01:55 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BF0110EA82 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 00:01:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (static-50-125-237-106.rdmd.wa.frontiernet.net [50.125.237.106]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A99785C1F for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 00:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id wAFN59nR067467 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 15:05:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD 12 Beta 4 - Still experiencing boot mount problems From: Dennis Glatting To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 15:05:09 -0800 X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: wAFN59nR067467 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-yoursite-MailScanner-From: freebsd@pki2.com X-Spam-Status: No X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5A99785C1F X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.29 / 40.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.02)[-0.019,0]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[pki2.com : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.82)[-0.822,0]; MANY_INVISIBLE_PARTS(1.00)[10]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.10)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.66)[0.663,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[btw.pki2.com]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5650, ipnet:50.120.0.0/13, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 00:01:55 -0000 I am still having the problem under BETA4 of unsuccessful booting because the root cannot be found. I did not have this problem until I upgraded from 11.2 to BETA4. I am also experiencing spurious resets but that may be another problem although it didn't happen under 11.2. root@btw# uname -a FreeBSD btw 12.0-BETA4 FreeBSD 12.0-BETA4 r340461 BTW amd64 root@btw# cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/da0p3 / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/gpt/swap0 none swap sw 0 0 #/dev/gpt/swap1 none swap sw 0 0 #/dev/cd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/gpt/disk1 /Junk ufs rw 3 3 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs rw,size=8G,mode=1777 0 0 linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 root@btw# dmesg ---<>--- Copyright (c) 1992-2018 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 12.0-BETA4 r340461 BTW amd64 FreeBSD clang version 6.0.1 (tags/RELEASE_601/final 335540) (based on LLVM 6.0.1) VT(vga): resolution 640x480 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2620 v3 @ 2.40GHz (2400.05-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin="GenuineIntel" Id=0x306f2 Family=0x6 Model=0x3f Stepping=2 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x7ffefbff AMD Features=0x2c100800 AMD Features2=0x21 Structured Extended Features=0x37ab XSAVE Features=0x1 VT-x: PAT,HLT,MTF,PAUSE,EPT,UG,VPID,VID,PostIntr TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics real memory = 137434759168 (131068 MB) avail memory = 133707231232 (127513 MB) Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600 ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 24 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 6 core(s) x 2 hardware threads ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard Launching APs: 1 5 20 23 11 13 15 22 9 10 19 2 3 8 17 14 7 18 21 4 6 16 12 Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 1200026016 Hz quality 1000 random: entropy device external interface kbd1 at kbdmux0 netmap: loaded module [ath_hal] loaded module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (vesa, 0xffffffff8111d690, 0) error 19 random: registering fast source Intel Secure Key RNG random: fast provider: "Intel Secure Key RNG" nexus0 vtvga0: on motherboard cryptosoft0: on motherboard acpi0: on motherboard cpu0: on acpi0 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x71,0x74-0x77 irq 8 on acpi0 atrtc0: registered as a time-of-day clock, resolution 1.000000s Event timer "RTC" frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 attimer0: port 0x40-0x43,0x50-0x53 irq 0 on acpi0 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Event timer "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 950 Event timer "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 350 Event timer "HPET1" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 340 Event timer "HPET2" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 340 Event timer "HPET3" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 340 Event timer "HPET4" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 340 Event timer "HPET5" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 340 Event timer "HPET6" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 340 Event timer "HPET7" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 340 Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 900 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 pcib0: on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 8.2 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 9.2 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 11.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 11.2 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 16.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 16.6 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 18.1 (no driver attached) pcib1: on acpi0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 8.2 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 9.2 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 11.1 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 11.2 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 16.1 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 16.6 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 18.1 (no driver attached) acpi_syscontainer0: on acpi0 acpi_syscontainer1: on acpi0 acpi_syscontainer2: on acpi0 acpi_syscontainer3: on acpi0 pcib2: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci2: on pcib2 pcib3: irq 26 at device 1.0 on pci2 pci3: on pcib3 vgapci0: port 0x6000-0x607f mem 0xe2000000- 0xe2ffffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff,0xd0000000-0xd1ffffff irq 26 at device 0.0 on pci3 nvidia0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io vgapci0: child nvidia0 requested pci_enable_io vgapci0: Boot video device hdac0: mem 0xe3080000-0xe3083fff irq 28 at device 0.1 on pci3 pcib4: irq 32 at device 2.0 on pci2 pci4: on pcib4 arcmsr0: port 0x5000-0x50ff mem 0xe32c0000-0xe32cffff,0xe3280000-0xe32bffff irq 32 at device 0.0 on pci4 Areca RAID adapter0: ARC-1880 F/W version V1.49 2010-12-10 arcmsr: MSI-X INT enabled pcib5: irq 40 at device 3.0 on pci2 pci5: on pcib5 pci2: at device 17.0 (no driver attached) ahci0: port 0x7110-0x7117,0x7100- 0x7103,0x70f0-0x70f7,0x70e0-0x70e3,0x7020-0x703f mem 0xe1106000- 0xe11067ff irq 16 at device 17.4 on pci2 ahci0: AHCI v1.30 with 4 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier not supported ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 ahcich1: at channel 1 on ahci0 ahcich2: at channel 2 on ahci0 ahcich3: at channel 3 on ahci0 ahciem0: on ahci0 xhci0: mem 0x23ffff00000- 0x23ffff0ffff irq 19 at device 20.0 on pci2 xhci0: 32 bytes context size, 64-bit DMA usbus0 on xhci0 usbus0: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 pci2: at device 22.0 (no driver attached) pci2: at device 22.1 (no driver attached) ehci0: mem 0xe1102000-0xe11023ff irq 18 at device 26.0 on pci2 usbus1: EHCI version 1.0 usbus1 on ehci0 usbus1: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 hdac1: mem 0x23ffff10000-0x23ffff13fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci2 pcib6: irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci2 pci6: on pcib6 pcib7: irq 19 at device 28.3 on pci2 pci7: on pcib7 pcib8: at device 0.0 on pci7 pci8: on pcib8 vgapci1: port 0x4000-0x407f mem 0xe0000000- 0xe0ffffff,0xe1000000-0xe101ffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci8 pcib9: irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci2 pci9: on pcib9 ehci1: mem 0xe1101000-0xe11013ff irq 18 at device 29.0 on pci2 usbus2: EHCI version 1.0 usbus2 on ehci1 usbus2: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci2 isa0: on isab0 ahci1: port 0x7070-0x7077,0x7060- 0x7063,0x7050-0x7057,0x7040-0x7043,0x7000-0x701f mem 0xe1100000- 0xe11007ff irq 16 at device 31.2 on pci2 ahci1: AHCI v1.30 with 6 6Gbps ports, Port Multiplier not supported ahcich4: at channel 0 on ahci1 ahcich5: at channel 1 on ahci1 ahcich6: at channel 2 on ahci1 ahcich7: at channel 3 on ahci1 ahcich8: at channel 4 on ahci1 ahcich9: at channel 5 on ahci1 ahciem1: on ahci1 pcib10: on acpi0 pci10: on pcib10 pcib11: at device 0.0 on pci10 pci11: on pcib11 igb0: port 0xf020-0xf03f mem 0xfb220000-0xfb23ffff,0xfb244000-0xfb247fff irq 48 at device 0.0 on pci11 igb0: attach_pre capping queues at 8 igb0: using 1024 tx descriptors and 1024 rx descriptors igb0: msix_init qsets capped at 8 igb0: pxm cpus: 12 queue msgs: 9 admincnt: 1 igb0: using 8 rx queues 8 tx queues igb0: Using MSIX interrupts with 9 vectors igb0: allocated for 8 tx_queues igb0: allocated for 8 rx_queues igb0: Ethernet address: 0c:c4:7a:57:b2:fa igb0: netmap queues/slots: TX 8/1024, RX 8/1024 igb1: port 0xf000-0xf01f mem 0xfb200000-0xfb21ffff,0xfb240000-0xfb243fff irq 49 at device 0.1 on pci11 igb1: attach_pre capping queues at 8 igb1: using 1024 tx descriptors and 1024 rx descriptors igb1: msix_init qsets capped at 8 igb1: pxm cpus: 12 queue msgs: 9 admincnt: 1 igb1: using 8 rx queues 8 tx queues igb1: Using MSIX interrupts with 9 vectors igb1: allocated for 8 tx_queues igb1: allocated for 8 rx_queues igb1: Ethernet address: 0c:c4:7a:57:b2:fb igb1: netmap queues/slots: TX 8/1024, RX 8/1024 pcib12: irq 50 at device 1.0 on pci10 pci12: on pcib12 nvme0: mem 0xfb100000-0xfb103fff irq 50 at device 0.0 on pci12 pcib13: irq 64 at device 3.0 on pci10 pci13: on pcib13 vgapci2: port 0xe000-0xe07f mem 0xfa000000- 0xfaffffff,0x27fe0000000-0x27fefffffff,0x27ff0000000-0x27ff1ffffff irq 64 at device 0.0 on pci13 nvidia2: on vgapci2 vgapci2: child nvidia2 requested pci_enable_io vgapci2: child nvidia2 requested pci_enable_io hdac2: mem 0xfb080000-0xfb083fff irq 68 at device 0.1 on pci13 acpi_button0: on acpi0 est0: on cpu0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert enabled, nat loadable, default to accept, logging disabled hdacc0: at cad 0 on hdac0 hdaa0: at nid 1 on hdacc0 pcm0: at nid 4 on hdaa0 pcm1: at nid 5 on hdaa0 pcm2: at nid 6 on hdaa0 pcm3: at nid 7 on hdaa0 hdacc1: at cad 0 on hdac1 hdaa1: at nid 1 on hdacc1 pcm4: at nid 27 and 25 on hdaa1 pcm5: at nid 31 on hdaa1 ugen2.1: at usbus2 ugen1.1: at usbus1 ugen0.1: <0x8086 XHCI root HUB> at usbus0 uhub0: on usbus2 uhub1: <0x8086 XHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 3.00/1.00, addr 1> on usbus0 uhub2: on usbus1 nvd0: NVMe namespace nvd0: 238475MB (488397168 512 byte sectors) hdacc2: at cad 0 on hdac2 hdaa2: at nid 1 on hdacc2 pcm6: at nid 4 on hdaa2 pcm7: at nid 5 on hdaa2 pcm8: at nid 6 on hdaa2 pcm9: at nid 7 on hdaa2 da0 at arcmsr0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SPC-3 SCSI device da0: Serial Number 415ca20696551232 da0: 600.000MB/s transfers da0: Command Queueing enabled da0: 953674MB (1953124352 512 byte sectors) da2 at arcmsr0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 2 da2: Fixed Direct Access SPC-3 SCSI device da2: Serial Number ZA16HR9M da2: 600.000MB/s transfers da2: Command Queueing enabled da2: 5723166MB (11721045168 512 byte sectors) da3 at arcmsr0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 3 da3: Fixed Direct Access SPC-3 SCSI device da3: Serial Number ZA16K7BT da3: 600.000MB/s transfers da3: Command Queueing enabled da3: 5723166MB (11721045168 512 byte sectors) da1 at arcmsr0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 1 da1: Fixed Direct Access SPC-3 SCSI device da1: Serial Number 415ca23892047968 da1: 600.000MB/s transfers da1: Command Queueing enabled da1: 7629394MB (1953124928 4096 byte sectors) ses0 at ahciem0 bus 0 scbus5 target 0 lun 0 ses0: SEMB S-E-S 2.00 device ses0: SEMB SES Device ses1 at ahciem1 bus 0 scbus12 target 0 lun 0 ses1: SEMB S-E-S 2.00 device ses1: SEMB SES Device ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 ada0: ACS-3 ATA SATA 3.x device ada0: Serial Number ZA161QN5 ada0: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 5723166MB (11721045168 512 byte sectors) ada0: quirks=0x1<4K> ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 ada1: ATA8-ACS SATA 3.x device ada1: Serial Number BTJR5150020R240AGN ada1: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 512bytes) ada1: Command Queueing enabled ada1: 228936MB (468862128 512 byte sectors) ada2 at ahcich2 bus 0 scbus3 target 0 lun 0 ada2: ATA8-ACS SATA 3.x device ada2: Serial Number BTJR516602V5240AGN ada2: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 512bytes) ada2: Command Queueing enabled ada2: 228936MB (468862128 512 byte sectors) ada3 at ahcich3 bus 0 scbus4 target 0 lun 0 ada3: ACS-3 ATA SATA 3.x device ada3: Serial Number CVTR5233023V120AGN ada3: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada3: Command Queueing enabled ada3: 114473MB (234441648 512 byte sectors) ada3: quirks=0x1<4K> ada4 at ahcich4 bus 0 scbus6 target 0 lun 0 ada4: ACS-3 ATA SATA 3.x device ada4: Serial Number ZA16G7M6 ada4: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada4: Command Queueing enabled ada4: 5723166MB (11721045168 512 byte sectors) ada4: quirks=0x1<4K> ada5 at ahcich5 bus 0 scbus7 target 0 lun 0 ada5: ACS-3 ATA SATA 3.x device ada5: Serial Number ZA16H0NL ada5: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada5: Command Queueing enabled ada5: 5723166MB (11721045168 512 byte sectors) ada5: quirks=0x1<4K> ada6 at ahcich6 bus 0 scbus8 target 0 lun 0 ada6: ACS-3 ATA SATA 3.x device ada6: Serial Number ZA16L0FB ada6: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada6: Command Queueing enabled ada6: 5723166MB (11721045168 512 byte sectors) ada6: quirks=0x1<4K> ada7 at ahcich9 bus 0 scbus11 target 0 lun 0 ada7: ACS-2 ATA SATA 3.x device ada7: Serial Number SMC0515D92117CF22668 ada7: 600.000MB/s transfers (SATA 3.x, UDMA6, PIO 512bytes) ada7: Command Queueing enabled ada7: 60416MB (123731968 512 byte sectors) uhub0: pass4 at arcmsr0 bus 0 scbus0 target 16 lun 0 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: pass4: Fixed Processor SCSI device 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered random: unblocking device. uhub1: 21 ports with 21 removable, self powered Root mount waiting for: usbus2 usbus1 usbus0 ugen1.2: at usbus1 uhub3 on uhub2 uhub3: on usbus1 ugen2.2: at usbus2 uhub4 on uhub0 uhub4: on usbus2 ugen0.2: at usbus0 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered ugen0.3: at usbus0 ukbd0 on uhub1 ukbd0: on usbus0 kbd2 at ukbd0 ugen0.4: at usbus0 uhub5 on uhub1 uhub5: on usbus0 Root mount waiting for: usbus0 uhub5: 4 ports with 3 removable, self powered ugen0.5: at usbus0 ukbd1 on uhub5 ukbd1: on usbus0 kbd3 at ukbd1 Loader variables: Manual root filesystem specification: : [options] Mount using filesystem and with the specified (optional) option list. eg. ufs:/dev/da0s1a zfs:zroot/ROOT/default cd9660:/dev/cd0 ro (which is equivalent to: mount -t cd9660 -o ro /dev/cd0 /) ? List valid disk boot devices . Yield 1 second (for background tasks) Abort manual input mountroot> Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0p3 []... ZFS filesystem version: 5 ZFS storage pool version: features support (5000) nvidia-modeset: Loading NVIDIA Kernel Mode Setting Driver for UNIX platforms 390.87 Tue Aug 21 15:53:31 PDT 2018 lo0: link state changed to UP gif0: link state changed to UP igb1: link state changed to UP igb0: link state changed to UP ioat0: mem 0x23ffff30000-0x23ffff33fff irq 31 at device 4.0 on pci2 ioat0: Capabilities: 2f7 ioat1: mem 0x23ffff2c000-0x23ffff2ffff irq 39 at device 4.1 on pci2 ioat1: Capabilities: 2f7 ioat2: mem 0x23ffff28000-0x23ffff2bfff irq 31 at device 4.2 on pci2 ioat2: Capabilities: f7 ioat3: mem 0x23ffff24000-0x23ffff27fff irq 39 at device 4.3 on pci2 ioat3: Capabilities: f7 ioat4: mem 0x23ffff20000-0x23ffff23fff irq 31 at device 4.4 on pci2 ioat4: Capabilities: f7 ioat5: mem 0x23ffff1c000-0x23ffff1ffff irq 39 at device 4.5 on pci2 ioat5: Capabilities: f7 ioat6: mem 0x23ffff18000-0x23ffff1bfff irq 31 at device 4.6 on pci2 ioat6: Capabilities: f7 ioat7: mem 0x23ffff14000-0x23ffff17fff irq 39 at device 4.7 on pci2 ioat7: Capabilities: f7 ioat8: mem 0x27ffff1c000-0x27ffff1ffff irq 55 at device 4.0 on pci10 ioat8: Capabilities: 2f7 ioat9: mem 0x27ffff18000-0x27ffff1bfff irq 63 at device 4.1 on pci10 ioat9: Capabilities: 2f7 ioat10: mem 0x27ffff14000-0x27ffff17fff irq 55 at device 4.2 on pci10 ioat10: Capabilities: f7 ioat11: mem 0x27ffff10000-0x27ffff13fff irq 63 at device 4.3 on pci10 ioat11: Capabilities: f7 ioat12: mem 0x27ffff0c000-0x27ffff0ffff irq 55 at device 4.4 on pci10 ioat12: Capabilities: f7 ioat13: mem 0x27ffff08000-0x27ffff0bfff irq 63 at device 4.5 on pci10 ioat13: Capabilities: f7 ioat14: mem 0x27ffff04000-0x27ffff07fff irq 55 at device 4.6 on pci10 ioat14: Capabilities: f7 ioat15: mem 0x27ffff00000-0x27ffff03fff irq 63 at device 4.7 on pci10 ioat15: Capabilities: f7 ums0 on uhub1 ums0: on usbus0 ums0: 3 buttons and [XYZ] coordinates ID=0 uhid0 on uhub1 uhid0: on usbus0 ums1 on uhub5 ums1: on usbus0 ums1: 3 buttons and [Z] coordinates ID=0 aesni0: on motherboard coretemp0: on cpu0 eroot@btw# cat /boot/loader.conf aesni_load="YES" cc_cubic_load="YES" cc_htcp_load="YES" cc_cdg_load="YES" cc_chd_load="YES" cc_hd_load="YES" cc_vegas_load="YES" coretemp_load="YES" cryptodev_load="YES" nvidia_load="YES" nvidia-modeset_load="YES" snd_hda_load="YES" tmpfs_load="YES" kern.ipc.nmbclusters=1048576 vfs.zfs.arc_max="64G" vfs.zfs.txg.timeout=300 hw.intr_storm_threshold=1000000 kern.vty=vt kern.random.fortuna.minpoolsize=256 net.inet.tcp.cc.algorithm="cdg" net.inet.tcp.hostcache.hashsize=1024 net.inet.ip.random_id=1 hw.intr_storm_threshold=1000000 net.inet.tcp.soreceive_stream=1 net.inet.tcp.hostcache.cachelimit=0 root@btw# gpart show da0 => 34 1953124285 da0 GPT (931G) 34 128 1 freebsd-boot (64K) 162 67108864 2 freebsd-swap (32G) 67109026 1886015293 3 freebsd-ufs [bootme] (899G) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 16 01:25:18 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A991121C9E for ; 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To: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0b12bf4c-8a2a-9642-7e72-600b6798543d@dreamchaser.org> <20181115203853.74f6d6d5@gumby.homeunix.com> Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org From: Gary Aitken Message-ID: <73f5bcc8-91f8-f353-5c38-cd6a7dc32363@dreamchaser.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 20:57:38 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181115203853.74f6d6d5@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Thu, 15 Nov 2018 20:58:16 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 814DF6F5D8 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.08 / 40.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: nightmare.dreamchaser.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[googlemail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.81)[-0.807,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.05)[0.050,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.10)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 03:58:19 -0000 On 11/15/18 13:38, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 10:18:14 -0700 > Gary Aitken wrote: > > >> root@breakaway:/usr/ports # portsnap update >> /usr/ports was not created by portsnap. >> You must run 'portsnap extract' before running 'portsnap update'. >> >> Note the next-to-last line: >> /usr/ports was not created by portsnap. >> >> That may be true. It was created during a sysinstall, but >> I don't know what the mechanism used to create it was. >> > > As a general rule update tools should be allowed to start > with a clean directory unless you know for a fact that adopting a > exiting tree is harmless. > > portsnap keeps a hidden file in the ports directory that records what > it installed in that instance of the port tree - it need to be > there to perform an update. So what's the point of installing the ports tree during a sysinstall if it has to be re-extracted on the first update after the install? Why not recommend not installing it during sys install and doing a fetch + extract first thing after installation? It just wastes time and resources doing the task twice. >> Is this now normal? > > I think it always was. I don't recall having this issue on 10.x (not sure which) or 8.x. I'm not absolutely certain I installed ports as part of the sys install, but I'm pretty sure I did on at least one of them. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 16 13:40:07 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2831133372 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 13:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from smh-06.1blu.de (smh-06.1blu.de [178.254.0.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5301C7FCF6 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 13:40:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [172.16.29.5] (helo=sh4-5.1blu.de) by smh-06.1blu.de with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gNeLj-0001v9-MW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:39:56 +0100 Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gNeLj-0002zH-Kb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:39:55 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:39:55 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mycroft Message-ID: <20181116133955.GA8487@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 17 10:36:17 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA4011300DF for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:36:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (relay1-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00C4984AE1 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from webmail.gandi.net (webmail6.sd4.0x35.net [10.200.201.6]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DE71F240002 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:35:46 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 16:05:46 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: need a swi-prolog-core package : soliciting bounty suggestions. Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Mail-Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Message-ID: <1f87e77474dd896af1b8747b1d8cbee8@kathe.in> X-Sender: mayuresh@kathe.in User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 00C4984AE1 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.32 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[mayuresh@kathe.in]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[193.183.70.217.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kathe.in]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[spool.mail.gandi.net,fb.mail.gandi.net,spool.mail.gandi.net,fb.mail.gandi.net,spool.mail.gandi.net,fb.mail.gandi.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.91)[-0.910,0]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[193.183.70.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29169, ipnet:217.70.176.0/20, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.21)[ipnet: 217.70.176.0/20(-3.23), asn: 29169(-2.77), country: FR(-0.02)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:36:17 -0000 hi, i need a tiny, i.e. core-only package for swi-prolog and if i have to approach someone for getting it done, how much would be a decent amount to offer? also, sorry if this is the wrong list for this question, and would appreciate guidance on the right one. thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 17 14:48:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159B811359F8 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 14:48:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ixbug@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3110A6DE39 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 14:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ixbug@riseup.net) Received: from cotinga.riseup.net (cotinga-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E57051A037D for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 06:47:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1542466074; bh=1H1AmOD3/lqqnq+i3a/yKc3C3E4b0/dp6Puabrr3eQE=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:From; b=NDD40mr6qiMTDea0y4ZxfjqWhXaPeR+nMn61HiL/5L75icxc0GapTseaCZq+6nCRE VtRa0RpxTqWSkrV/fpLyWIwHnraiZkTEgL73ojVgOA+i0S0W1Bm11bMNf8io09/poI o33l7xxRgQjqa2gbsOXbn+qUsJvBdJOIKpujhyAA= X-Riseup-User-ID: 439DBD19AFAC21A18BD195714468D3C0BAC6402FE21358BA4F422149E325FE09 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cotinga.riseup.net with ESMTPSA id 32FE4103EF6 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 06:47:53 -0800 (PST) To: FreeBSD From: ixbug@riseup.net Subject: ixl(4) maintenance status Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 14:47:00 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3110A6DE39 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.riseup.net]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.870,0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[129.153.252.198.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.10)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 14:48:04 -0000 Hi, is ixl(4) still maintained? I'm wondering because there has been no reaction to this bugreport since over 3 months: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230235 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 17 16:31:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92293113794A for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 16:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thor@irk.ru) Received: from mail.irk.ru (relay2.dsi.ru [195.206.40.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 698467109D for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 16:31:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thor@irk.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=irk.ru; s=dkim; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID :Subject:From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=yLLi41Kh+yIqq87s55r5gMPLP8Zk1ww6fscsaSYjHp4=; b=WdQXDOZeIAgg3gLeSDTL+8ynKE bx8Q01OzrCZ+nziugYEaUPwHg6CJzCSKBMeDom1d5b+ihnKxpu/KUDAsDzsFuJ4D8L1DWohB6PP9M QZLt0OyGwWYHTnpllBm2fp7FQhT0p6DF91odlXl8ZDNug9OUR00auAwp+I8boH5F7kro=; Received: from [194.176.114.54] (helo=[192.168.1.130]) by mail.irk.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.89 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gO3Tx-00083o-Pn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:30:05 +0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: thor Subject: Please advice me a RAID-5 controller Message-ID: <4f55954e-37b1-d8ae-4a36-9fa79dccd817@irk.ru> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 00:31:29 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 698467109D X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.69 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[irk.ru]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.00)[country: RU(-0.00)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[irk.ru:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[relay1.dsi.ru,relay2.dsi.ru]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[175.40.206.195.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.68)[-0.675,0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[irk.ru,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[54.114.176.194.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8345, ipnet:195.206.32.0/19, country:RU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 16:31:41 -0000 Hello! I need a hardware PCIe SATA/SAS RAID controller. Requirements: 1) RAID-5 2) Supported in FreeBSD AMD 64 3) Supporting more than 2TB per drive 4) Old enough to be bought cheaply on EBay. 5) Speed is not critical; problem is the maximal volume per installation. 6) Tape support is welcome. Previously I tried P-800 and Dell PERC 6/i. Unfortunately P-800 control utility is proprietary and both have a hardware limit of 2TB per drive so only 12TB+parity per controller. Could you advice me something similar to PERC 6/i but more than 2TB per drive? Thanks.