From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 18 09:12:28 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BE7F2119D for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 09:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vtr.rulingia.com (vtr.rulingia.com [IPv6:2001:19f0:5801:ebe:5400:1ff:fe53:30fd]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vtr.rulingia.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 958D06D19A for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 09:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp59-167-167-3.static.internode.on.net [59.167.167.3]) by vtr.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1I9CBoV017622 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:12:22 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1I9C5PY042335 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:12:05 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w1I9C5dw042334 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:12:05 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:12:04 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problems building 11-stable/i386 with readonly /usr/src Message-ID: <20180218091204.GR3353@server.rulingia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1LW0Rr0Uq98qh6Rv" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 09:12:28 -0000 --1LW0Rr0Uq98qh6Rv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sometime between r329122 and r329157, my 11-stable i386 box stopped being able to buildworld with a readonly /usr/src. I've been updating regularly but the problem still remains at r329450. I don't have any problems building the same tree on amd64 or building head on i386 or amd64. Does anyone have any ideas? Starting from an empty /usr/obj, the failure is: =2E.. >>> stage 4.3: building everything =2E.. =3D=3D=3D> stand/zfs (all) Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/machine machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/x86 x86 -> /usr/src/sys/x86/include Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/zfs.o Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/skein.o Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/skein_block.o Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/libzfsboot.a building static zfsboot library =3D=3D=3D> stand/efi (all) machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include ln: machine: Read-only file system *** Error code 1 Stop. make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/stand/efi =2EERROR_TARGET=3D'machine' =2EERROR_META_FILE=3D'' =2EMAKE.LEVEL=3D'4' MAKEFILE=3D'' =2EMAKE.MODE=3D'meta missing-filemon=3Dyes missing-meta=3Dyes silent=3Dyes = verbose' _ERROR_CMD=3D'.PHONY' =2ECURDIR=3D'/usr/src/stand/efi' =2EMAKE=3D'make' =2EOBJDIR=3D'/usr/src/stand/efi' =2ETARGETS=3D'all' DESTDIR=3D'/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp' LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D'' MACHINE=3D'i386' MACHINE_ARCH=3D'i386' MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D'/usr/obj' MAKESYSPATH=3D'/usr/src/share/mk' MAKE_VERSION=3D'20170720' PATH=3D'/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/us= r/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/ob= j/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin' SRCTOP=3D'/usr/src' OBJTOP=3D'/usr/src' =2EMAKE.MAKEFILES=3D'/usr/src/share/mk/sys.mk /usr/src/share/mk/local.sys.e= nv.mk /usr/src/share/mk/src.sys.env.mk /etc/src-env.conf /usr/src/share/mk/= bsd.mkopt.mk /etc/make.conf /usr/src/share/mk/local.sys.mk /usr/src/share/m= k/src.sys.mk Makefile /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.init.mk /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.o= pts.mk /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk /usr/src/share/mk/local.init.mk /usr/sr= c/share/mk/src.init.mk /usr/src/stand/efi/../Makefile.inc /usr/src/stand/ef= i/../defs.mk /usr/src/share/mk/src.opts.mk /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.own.mk /us= r/src/share/mk/bsd.compiler.mk /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.compiler.mk /usr/src/s= hare/mk/bsd.subdir.mk' =2EPATH=3D'. /usr/src/stand/efi' *** Error code 1 --=20 Peter Jeremy --1LW0Rr0Uq98qh6Rv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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Sun, 18 Feb 2018 12:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:80:80::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D02D750DD for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 12:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (lava.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:5::11]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1ICvLv9030713 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:57:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.43.26] (saphire3.sentex.net [192.168.43.26]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w1ICvJnV064414; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:57:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Subject: Re: stable/11 r329462 - Meltdown/Spectre MFC questions To: Pete French , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20180217194726.GA79666@icarus.home.lan> <20180217201934.GA51895@gmail.com> From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:57:19 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 12:57:22 -0000 did a few simple buildworlds before and after on an Epyc box, and it had no significant impact. Its vulnerable just to spectre. I am just updating an intel box to see the impact of the Meltdown fixes. From what I recall, apps that do a lot of system calls will have the largest impact. ---Mike On 2/17/2018 3:38 PM, Pete French wrote: > > > On 17/02/2018 20:19, Matt Smith wrote: > >> And thank you for pointing this out. I can now just wait a while to >> see what comes along rather than accidentally upgrading it and killing >> the already really slow performance. >> > I was just looking at this too, and wondering what (if any) the > performance impact is on FreeBSD. I had a quick google to see if I could > fine anything on current about it, but no luck. 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[209.85.215.53]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h18sm2450603lfl.53.2018.02.18.07.06.58 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:06:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lf0-f53.google.com with SMTP id 70so3876924lfw.2; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:06:58 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.25.196.66 with SMTP id u63mr7543381lff.108.1518966418591; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:06:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.46.106.8 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:06:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20180218091204.GR3353@server.rulingia.com> References: <20180218091204.GR3353@server.rulingia.com> From: Kyle Evans Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 09:06:38 -0600 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problems building 11-stable/i386 with readonly /usr/src To: Peter Jeremy , imp@freebsd.org, Bryan Drewery Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:07:07 -0000 On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 3:12 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > Sometime between r329122 and r329157, my 11-stable i386 box stopped > being able to buildworld with a readonly /usr/src. I've been updating > regularly but the problem still remains at r329450. I don't have any > problems building the same tree on amd64 or building head on i386 or > amd64. Does anyone have any ideas? > > Starting from an empty /usr/obj, the failure is: > ... This would have come in with the recent MFC of imp@'s rototilling. I seem to recall some build system funkiness that put .OBJDIR inside the src tree inconsistently before recent-ish changes in head. CC'ing bdrewery@ and imp@ in hopes they have an idea of how to handle this in stable/11. The offending ln invocation would be this one: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/11/stand/defs.mk?view=markup#l178 From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 18 16:12:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B73F14CCB for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 16:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.marec@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.smtpout.orange.fr (smtp09.smtpout.orange.fr [80.12.242.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48517E12D for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 16:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.marec@davenulle.org) Received: from [192.168.1.14] ([86.201.45.222]) by mwinf5d44 with ME id CG4v1x00Q4nd8WE03G4vQr; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 17:04:56 +0100 X-ME-Helo: [192.168.1.14] X-ME-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 17:04:56 +0100 X-ME-IP: 86.201.45.222 Subject: Re: stable/11 r329462 - Meltdown/Spectre MFC questions To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20180217194726.GA79666@icarus.home.lan> From: David Marec Message-ID: <58099107-bc04-8ad9-3909-16bf5297dd2b@davenulle.org> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 17:04:55 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180217194726.GA79666@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: fr-classic Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 16:12:36 -0000 On 17.02.2018 20:47, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > hw.ibrs_disable > - Description: Disable Indirect Branch Restricted Speculation > - Loader tunable and sysctl tunable (read-write) > - Integer > - Default value: unsure. Variable declaration has 1 but > SYSCTL_PROC() macro has 0. > Strange thing is that tweaking `hw.ibrs_disable` has no effect on `hw.ibrs_active` on my side. -- David Marec https://lapinbilly.eu/ From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 18 16:50:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB0CF17961 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 16:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org) Received: from mail-wm0-x233.google.com (mail-wm0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4E7B7F57A for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 16:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org) Received: by mail-wm0-x233.google.com with SMTP id t74so11144004wme.3 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 08:50:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hardenedbsd-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=tqw+heApmxLfVV1/ZLxoi40iuXrN+4LR012X/bWAg8E=; b=OEW7ye38YjjGGkv2eyJOTNxfg6Zwsacl+Z3jHfcAi+3pUvoSPzPaLWbpo1s2OwRuPk Tc6zOVitcXZew/Tp935M9RBPwQi7OLCo3wjbaXdyBX0GkKVYqf+Hmg/cxAN3JyWypmJF CCm5jY+LIGtC/d14rgX6Z4G51BA1TSlicA86gPErd49cUCSc/qsIr3AKmH6E8lQc9FIH QJrHnvYIGzNaaxY4yNG152mC1W9SikkOb8VBvniJeunf1i2tywzaY2fMoC3IEj2DenK9 tBNat9QqxJ60MryJ6erx6/fKmofCf3bYOBLN/DsICBQg5lKGedH1KMaz4v9AXwTNVjzm wPoQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=tqw+heApmxLfVV1/ZLxoi40iuXrN+4LR012X/bWAg8E=; b=Dc6YDXDtaV3/BKOWHjQbB2yBHkjOw411eV3dB7JPtFdSyogjC4DxHgzQZdQvVn6lN/ CZFpQ1kVaKgJzMKC3z66rSvurHAiJoSOXy/K+jWbPhK4fkxWXfVODZ20I4zV1dySXUvo 7ybH+IK84bRDC0sorSeA4b/cROXwPTcc/lzIEumjjN6B9Lz5wUZyzAY6BqL0M+nCgSmD dEVjXNIAUYeJieSIE+hlhFiwo1naPqbMFCQS2geLc280/wYdZkBjdX9F1I1/1TgDv/FN omplrnbWSSMzbKDqe3uHveYqws+FXpysVTC1hIst3e1GQYb3+G51vbMDQBp7rp2X515a 3tmg== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPB+1bl1n4CgBOk9NojMvkyr/HzEQ1QWlobtGGsXV5qv65MdKys/ 6Fitb+u+LU9bCwSWcv9YCC4DY/Gy0EM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x2245/QTa+yCevCbHRZa7eWl2qOupkdWIofs5H021J5vVq7X5qhPNF5EnCwC2oDh4MG3qiUtV1A== X-Received: by 10.28.55.81 with SMTP id e78mr10106084wma.50.1518972621920; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 08:50:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mutt-hbsd ([192.42.116.13]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w14sm16565905wmf.32.2018.02.18.08.50.15 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 18 Feb 2018 08:50:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:50:01 -0500 From: Shawn Webb To: David Marec Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stable/11 r329462 - Meltdown/Spectre MFC questions Message-ID: <20180218165001.whbmonks7fq27mgq@mutt-hbsd> References: <20180217194726.GA79666@icarus.home.lan> <58099107-bc04-8ad9-3909-16bf5297dd2b@davenulle.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lqdufu4v222lgprr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <58099107-bc04-8ad9-3909-16bf5297dd2b@davenulle.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD mutt-hbsd 12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x6A84658F52456EEE User-Agent: NeoMutt/20171215 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 16:50:24 -0000 --lqdufu4v222lgprr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 05:04:55PM +0100, David Marec wrote: > On 17.02.2018 20:47, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > hw.ibrs_disable > > - Description: Disable Indirect Branch Restricted Speculation > > - Loader tunable and sysctl tunable (read-write) > > - Integer > > - Default value: unsure. Variable declaration has 1 but > > SYSCTL_PROC() macro has 0. > >=20 >=20 >=20 > Strange thing is that tweaking `hw.ibrs_disable` has no effect on > `hw.ibrs_active` on my side. Did you install the latest Intel microcode update? Thanks, --=20 Shawn Webb Cofounder and Security Engineer HardenedBSD Tor-ified Signal: +1 443-546-8752 GPG Key ID: 0x6A84658F52456EEE GPG Key Fingerprint: 2ABA B6BD EF6A F486 BE89 3D9E 6A84 658F 5245 6EEE --lqdufu4v222lgprr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEKrq2ve9q9Ia+iT2eaoRlj1JFbu4FAlqJrrQACgkQaoRlj1JF bu721xAAvuGIXR88q68u0gQRERDgCiUQoKO210+uTdu9JDfPSELD3O4w9eD8DPhm UdX3blBT8cz56f/kVoRhV/og8m4sp2RqJL+qBru2gg8APryugjiAvRFhlG0JVfnf 89gxEAx8aUmNbNW3c5U++kJZTMjE8TKUTZahxc1KaBsujFglQP+r37aCz7wvd+k6 A9dgmG/BqG4bs1VlA9iXt0MhFhq3ttt2KcUKR61DEtdaRV4QZMgHIKcljloAvaCv jKehvZ5gPtd+U4RaB8Yae1zmiHV3EJY2YIKZ0g141RyPpIbq6FXbiluGYgFBpCS6 MWS8wN/ip+VCx3R8Oqz9mp0Q5kgwfVwy1C+Gypkht8iuez33kwyJQv32BwwE5RVh 50Qvn2iugRzkxbj7p0P+hcc1VxLaJOukIPHd4OEwGhXS9vG3A5xGCkf8W2m6HkmL +CtQhroD5Rm1t5qtlB4fW0PatLLL57liMKg1Qk8IZDDYAuYQOKsVbkuWVBJRcVGP 8MdmDQ3lu6BzRg3jShI1UpqICLtZBtop0vsbERtMcmoE4idp4XYnqMAhy1p0+D/p MtUXXCAl6iW399/I+XQAcRhBC24XAsaok8VoDBp13iEzjJu9jPuBKSX/U0q4Tzj8 bmndISWEZHPmR9tMT7hsoj63eUZVVFM7/Q162XpJtWeZCIm/c50= =NV5L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lqdufu4v222lgprr-- From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 18 17:54:42 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371DDF1C8D8 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 17:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.marec@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.smtpout.orange.fr (smtp07.smtpout.orange.fr [80.12.242.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED5482599 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 17:54:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.marec@davenulle.org) Received: from [192.168.1.14] ([86.201.45.222]) by mwinf5d66 with ME id CHn21x00d4nd8WE03Hn2Lf; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 18:47:03 +0100 X-ME-Helo: [192.168.1.14] X-ME-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 18:47:03 +0100 X-ME-IP: 86.201.45.222 Subject: Re: stable/11 r329462 - Meltdown/Spectre MFC questions To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20180217194726.GA79666@icarus.home.lan> <58099107-bc04-8ad9-3909-16bf5297dd2b@davenulle.org> <20180218165001.whbmonks7fq27mgq@mutt-hbsd> From: David Marec Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 18:47:02 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180218165001.whbmonks7fq27mgq@mutt-hbsd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 17:54:42 -0000 On 18.02.2018 17:50, Shawn Webb wrote: >> >> Strange thing is that tweaking `hw.ibrs_disable` has no effect on >> `hw.ibrs_active` on my side. > > Did you install the latest Intel microcode update? > Hum, I thought I did, but I don't know actually if the following is the latest revision of the microcode: #cpucontrol -u -v /dev/cpuctl0 cpucontrol: skipping /usr/local/share/cpucontrol/m32306c3_00000022.fw of rev 0x22: up to date -- David Marec https://lapinbilly.eu/ From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 18 20:35:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBD1F01943 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hps@selasky.org) Received: from mail.turbocat.net (turbocat.net [88.99.82.50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC06569FB1 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hps@selasky.org) Received: from hps2016.home.selasky.org (unknown [62.141.128.70]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.turbocat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2C964260329 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:35:24 +0100 (CET) To: FreeBSD Stable From: Hans Petter Selasky Subject: [CFT] [X11] graphics/drm-next-kmod now builds, loads and works on FreeBSD-11-stable Message-ID: <3ad595ce-e15b-d475-e057-4dde88e2630c@selasky.org> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:35:24 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:35:33 -0000 Hi FreeBSD desktop users! During the past week and over the weekend all parts needed for building, loading and using graphics/drm-next-kmod on FreeBSD-11-stable have been completed! A big thanks to all the people contributing to graphics support under FreeBSD in both kernel and user-space! You'll find their names in the commit logs including myself :-) Links: https://www.freshports.org/graphics/drm-next-kmod https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/329527 Issues are reported here: https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm/issues --HPS From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 18 21:15:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A739DF04D07 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:15:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from oceanview.tundraware.com (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailman.tundraware.com", Issuer "mailman.tundraware.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 574746C0A6 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:15:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by oceanview.tundraware.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w1ILFNl9085558 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:15:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Subject: Re: stable/11 r329462 - Meltdown/Spectre MFC questions To: David Marec , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20180217194726.GA79666@icarus.home.lan> <58099107-bc04-8ad9-3909-16bf5297dd2b@davenulle.org> <20180218165001.whbmonks7fq27mgq@mutt-hbsd> From: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:15:18 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]); Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:15:24 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: w1ILFNl9085558 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.894, required 1, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, AWL 0.12, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.01) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:15:36 -0000 On 02/18/2018 05:47 PM, David Marec wrote: > #cpucontrol -u -v /dev/cpuctl0 > cpucontrol: skipping /usr/local/share/cpucontrol/m32306c3_00000022.fw of rev 0x22: up to date While we're on the subject ... where does one find these microcode updates anyway. On a 10.4-STABLE system, the command above blows out because there is no director /usr/local/share/cpucontrol ... so I am missing the magic to get it populated. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 18 21:50:23 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8A5F079FC for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eborisch@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x22b.google.com (mail-wr0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4DAC6D7D1 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eborisch@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id z12so1657925wrg.4 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 13:50:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=g7qqVt3J0aMol1zVrHDtGyesY/euLR5OtuaGLyYtReU=; b=LtAaYSzS0GnMGmXvwAb6jmnPFzj1Miyf6c5+6cl6rUkF7FInzQkf9ISc8t6D0TFBHF MzAwWHdGP9MLD5x3eowdsm4ecdUi0/wL+hLI5cUAliVkLyrqlyKItwYLV3fy80pE1nJ5 0Y7JlkYc61mXGcU4sora68DgwaC9/PX0D+pxdKQrCPptO30TjXc8LfP3onxGmWazi0eZ Ii2YxqxLUnGdFL8GKBAYdi5J2JRJ+jrgNe7SlNZQnr/izSiQO+KukYhiNZ68F1sHZffP TPIu1eio4O+TovI4RqnaZ5PprB3JlFIR0c5HVsd5N9/qAEpE/3Ae1fGdNuqDARRK8ONd 1pDg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=g7qqVt3J0aMol1zVrHDtGyesY/euLR5OtuaGLyYtReU=; b=NUiLib2oxk6ZG5cI+hFpUDnDwXclgnV7A9BI4lk7t6yC7cevXkYQNZm7ljEN1FdOoW Lln/ZIBPr4uObNcK1XI+pLMZ0QjrqX5oFoIEtLr/a4zDSu83yvSc/DihT1BItF3gM+Wj SrcG6NiTEVJdm60g14iqfJiT5k/UwOqbrBheEgLjwSK+wmKAunuIaynsPJOZOHM7lb4v 34Kbu6LHLNwc7S99dYHhaCpbXOElu2DRhMGC1B6z54newyDbEBVj6iz7q8NITYVEfmZB zcneBHt7skuktpspUHZrQJFocEPWaQApVZJiuLpzQAVGWyjEdZrGF4drCiS8eEJ1Ee38 dbCQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPBVxhFXD4vB4HOXq7CP9Ib/vzEg1A7pjjbJ9YYlF2tMZCweWHCh jXQ3IoUVhNYJYLn27NKU226gunKqpq/uMZ34mZppxA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x224CfNj77Ivjv4EIuN+tbeZpEcDaoQEKLGew4tTl8+mPC4mZd0cOOlO0Qhb/kYItOVk+OA32AfAXe7LRjqRf+64= X-Received: by 10.223.189.131 with SMTP id l3mr3739571wrh.140.1518990621588; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 13:50:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20180217194726.GA79666@icarus.home.lan> <58099107-bc04-8ad9-3909-16bf5297dd2b@davenulle.org> <20180218165001.whbmonks7fq27mgq@mutt-hbsd> In-Reply-To: From: "Eric A. Borisch" Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:50:10 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: stable/11 r329462 - Meltdown/Spectre MFC questions To: Tim Daneliuk Cc: David Marec , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:50:23 -0000 On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 3:17 PM Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 02/18/2018 05:47 PM, David Marec wrote: > > #cpucontrol -u -v /dev/cpuctl0 > > cpucontrol: skipping /usr/local/share/cpucontrol/m32306c3_00000022.fw o= f > rev 0x22: up to date > > > While we're on the subject ... where does one find these microcode update= s > anyway. On a 10.4-STABLE system, the command above blows out because > there is no director /usr/local/share/cpucontrol ... so I am missing > the magic to get it populated. > > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com > PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ It=E2=80=99s provided by the sysutils/devcpu-data port. - Eric > From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 18 22:02:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B271F09096 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from oceanview.tundraware.com (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailman.tundraware.com", Issuer "mailman.tundraware.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 156FE6E76E for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by oceanview.tundraware.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w1IM2DK8009174 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 18 Feb 2018 16:02:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Subject: Re: stable/11 r329462 - Meltdown/Spectre MFC questions To: "Eric A. Borisch" Cc: David Marec , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20180217194726.GA79666@icarus.home.lan> <58099107-bc04-8ad9-3909-16bf5297dd2b@davenulle.org> <20180218165001.whbmonks7fq27mgq@mutt-hbsd> From: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <9b010393-e60f-5cbf-0a55-6082798fd237@tundraware.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:02:08 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (oceanview.tundraware.com [45.55.60.57]); Sun, 18 Feb 2018 16:02:14 -0600 (CST) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: w1IM2DK8009174 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.894, required 1, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, AWL 0.12, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.01) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:02:20 -0000 On 02/18/2018 09:50 PM, Eric A. Borisch wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 3:17 PM Tim Daneliuk > wrote: > > On 02/18/2018 05:47 PM, David Marec wrote: > > #cpucontrol -u -v /dev/cpuctl0 > > cpucontrol: skipping /usr/local/share/cpucontrol/m32306c3_00000022.fw of rev 0x22: up to date > > > While we're on the subject ... where does one find these microcode updates > anyway.  On a 10.4-STABLE system, the command above blows out because > there is no director /usr/local/share/cpucontrol ... so I am missing > the magic to get it populated. > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tim Daneliuk     tundra@tundraware.com > PGP Key:         http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ > > > It’s provided by the sysutils/devcpu-data port. > >  - Eric > > Yes thanks, I finally tripped across that myself :) Do we have any insight on whether this addresses the latest vulnerabilities? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 18 22:27:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B27BF0AD3C for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x241.google.com (mail-ua0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA64B6F867 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x241.google.com with SMTP id t6so5066647ual.7 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 14:27:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=kSlImJgJ6IXcA4xT27jaA6T1ztBpD5bG5O8QFSRhZ48=; b=g2xMkZlOi7QZAHKou4vfSnZ40mH9tYVqr5tAmXV0ZzJlmCMnDzlNStHT57wP7WpSPT yKMIQLJf7uXddEpXfGZi0RUXcFT9VUMQoSInBeAQm9cuI2mTlADnbt5tLnn3nlOyCDlN TUGdWzTEsSBWuXCwNOaBTDoHXh4IMNhQbpyCqne7D3/HxuP4Uw5BiWI+vIEbKPEXV8q7 cw82sRw10yE/cKzShAgrBz8SagCqz9tsffajmf/V389wQWJxKLMB7S50hBr20Z5cSn+W 1/DU1YifVoQyRo36LepfcW8EGd9553zFztvB/mjCGN4l/OiN/vO23lClXus9LLkn0hX6 u0Dw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=kSlImJgJ6IXcA4xT27jaA6T1ztBpD5bG5O8QFSRhZ48=; b=dyjtcWS46Q5Sod0GViH9nio+PJ4g7xgcR/aGjd48ue+9cd3KPUnFJEbiafa2WorWA9 qT4ijt+GawSWsHG32qQDJNtvlT9lBKIKcIdN5khddQaG1AWn/IT2l++lTDo3TDiIiLjZ GmZNVT0c5iY9AAeyQ3elhCovEiTyLNRGnaFqDXQuaHh9kIo4ZrWS7wwrYpYm4U9SAAEr dvUA4AsY/ogsG9gCOHrH5KdUq11t9I9Yrh+RmfgTP0pHYKntny5CVKGCtU6e/4DCYGYj honkDMkave+gb+mXljGN0MZ8wkHC9eQG9O8Xtoyybfkv3lfGnUK8G/dgSy17iZKDotFQ xOxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPCXyBTzunxeY0DmBAVkwU96sJY9vHFjI85y5B/hHD3z8LLw/CCT HGj95s2Z40kSKouhsXmBGpfHWO7ZjLt1BE1wyYMxuZkX X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x224ekCK48S3M6EtUmiH7XMjm0zqGa+bcuAQVxs7+/QwykaEPjnWKvU0I34dSedMI8MXlYTSqWDatjberncLFdRY= X-Received: by 10.176.7.39 with SMTP id h36mr9988892uah.117.1518992827210; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 14:27:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.103.39.199 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 14:27:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3ad595ce-e15b-d475-e057-4dde88e2630c@selasky.org> References: <3ad595ce-e15b-d475-e057-4dde88e2630c@selasky.org> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 14:27:06 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: I1OOiFa6ufImkHklH63nEvMrBGg Message-ID: Subject: Re: [CFT] [X11] graphics/drm-next-kmod now builds, loads and works on FreeBSD-11-stable To: Hans Petter Selasky Cc: FreeBSD Stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:27:08 -0000 On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > Hi FreeBSD desktop users! > > During the past week and over the weekend all parts needed for building, > loading and using graphics/drm-next-kmod on FreeBSD-11-stable have been > completed! > > A big thanks to all the people contributing to graphics support under > FreeBSD in both kernel and user-space! You'll find their names in the > commit logs including myself :-) > > Links: > https://www.freshports.org/graphics/drm-next-kmod > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/329527 > > Issues are reported here: > https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm/issues > > --HPS > Wow! That is awesome. Thanks to all of the contributors. Any instructions? Am I right that the mod setting driver should generally be used. None of the links above really covers implementation. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 18 22:32:44 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE3AF0B731 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: from pmta2.delivery6.ore.mailhop.org (pmta2.delivery6.ore.mailhop.org [54.200.129.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 489266FF6B for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) X-MHO-User: 8cee69a6-14fb-11e8-b951-f99fef315fd9 X-Report-Abuse-To: https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information X-Originating-IP: 67.177.211.60 X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP Received: from ilsoft.org (unknown [67.177.211.60]) by outbound2.ore.mailhop.org (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 8cee69a6-14fb-11e8-b951-f99fef315fd9; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rev (rev [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w1IMWZuM053080; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:32:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <1518993155.91697.19.camel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: [CFT] [X11] graphics/drm-next-kmod now builds, loads and works on FreeBSD-11-stable From: Ian Lepore To: Kevin Oberman , Hans Petter Selasky Cc: FreeBSD Stable Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:32:35 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: <3ad595ce-e15b-d475-e057-4dde88e2630c@selasky.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:32:44 -0000 On Sun, 2018-02-18 at 14:27 -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Hans Petter Selasky > wrote: > > > > > Hi FreeBSD desktop users! > > > > During the past week and over the weekend all parts needed for building, > > loading and using graphics/drm-next-kmod on FreeBSD-11-stable have been > > completed! > > > > A big thanks to all the people contributing to graphics support under > > FreeBSD in both kernel and user-space! You'll find their names in the > > commit logs including myself :-) > > > > Links: > > https://www.freshports.org/graphics/drm-next-kmod > > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/329527 > > > > Issues are reported here: > > https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm/issues > > > > --HPS > > > Wow! That is awesome. Thanks to all of the contributors. > > Any instructions? Am I right that the mod setting driver should generally > be used. None of the links above really covers implementation. +1. I have the vague notion that drm-next has something to do with supporting newer graphics hardware.  Since I just bought a new x86 box whose builtin radeon R6 isn't supported by -current that sounds interesting to me, where do I find out more about drm-next and how to try it? -- Ian  From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 18 22:36:26 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0A0F0BBBF for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:36:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hps@selasky.org) Received: from mail.turbocat.net (turbocat.net [88.99.82.50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8ED8D701A3 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:36:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hps@selasky.org) Received: from hps2016.home.selasky.org (unknown [62.141.128.70]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.turbocat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BC0A426027E; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 23:36:23 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [CFT] [X11] graphics/drm-next-kmod now builds, loads and works on FreeBSD-11-stable To: Kevin Oberman Cc: FreeBSD Stable References: <3ad595ce-e15b-d475-e057-4dde88e2630c@selasky.org> From: Hans Petter Selasky Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 23:36:23 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:36:26 -0000 On 02/18/18 23:27, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Hans Petter Selasky > wrote: > >> Hi FreeBSD desktop users! >> >> During the past week and over the weekend all parts needed for building, >> loading and using graphics/drm-next-kmod on FreeBSD-11-stable have been >> completed! >> >> A big thanks to all the people contributing to graphics support under >> FreeBSD in both kernel and user-space! You'll find their names in the >> commit logs including myself :-) >> >> Links: >> https://www.freshports.org/graphics/drm-next-kmod >> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/329527 >> >> Issues are reported here: >> https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm/issues >> >> --HPS >> Hi Kevin, > > Wow! That is awesome. Thanks to all of the contributors. Thank you! > > Any instructions? Am I right that the mod setting driver should generally > be used. None of the links above really covers implementation. I believe the package when you install it will give you some instructions in the pkg-message. Basically: portsnap fetch update Make sure your kernel sources in /usr/src . cd /usr/src make buildkernel -jX make installkernel -jX cd /usr/ports/graphics/drm-next-kmod make all install clean Edit /etc/rc.conf and add for example: kld_list="i915kms" Then reboot and twin your thumbs. If it fails goto single user mode. mount -a Edit /etc/rc.conf and remove the kld_list=... Save and type exit. Before starting X.org you should have the correct xf86-video-xxx drivers installed, because then 2D and 3D acceleration will activate. A quick tip for tear-free video with intel drivers: cat /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf Section "Device" Identifier "Device0" Driver "intel" Option "AccelMethod" "sna" Option "TearFree" "true" EndSection --HPS From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 18 23:11:03 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59639F0EB94 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 23:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from nmsh5.e.nsc.no (nmsh5.e.nsc.no [148.123.160.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B3A71E1C for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 23:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from terraplane.org (ti0027a400-1948.bb.online.no [88.88.110.169]) by nmsh5.nsc.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1IN24XC024057 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 00:02:08 +0100 Received: from terraplane.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terraplane.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w1IN2pCw060855 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 00:02:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: (from rumrunner@localhost) by terraplane.org (8.14.5/8.13.8/Submit) id w1IN2pkC060854 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 00:02:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rumrunner) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 00:02:51 +0100 From: Eivind Nicolay Evensen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Locale problem updating 10.3 to 11.1 Message-ID: <20180218230251.GA60727@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 23:11:03 -0000 Hello. After upgrading from 10.3 to 11.1 by building source (as of r329364), I experienced some problems that seems to be related to locale. Using > echo $LANG -- $LC_CTYPE no_NO.ISO8859-1 -- no_NO.ISO8859-1 ls emitted question mark for Norwegian characters (æøå), the menu and title fonts in fvwm2 displayed unknown to me symbols except for certain capital letters and yet other programs like the worker filemanager truncated filenames at the first Norwegian letter. I had to revert to 10.3 because of this but if anybody has some clues what may be the reason for this, I'd appreciate it. Regards -- Eivind From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 18 23:26:01 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BD6F0FFBC for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 23:26:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org) Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF30972BC2 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 23:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org) Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id z81so12011942wmb.4 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:26:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hardenedbsd-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=LC/KGfNPxOoAloQ3U7pG6cFbGrouEbMoeVuBWEYuQPg=; b=rehDvWpiD5+aSxxAbWUBXb277k/+iBnpp7D5J2G6Yr6gJbgQMg3Iry9qcB24xFvBC1 HH/mOU1EvUSQ3d972JF+zgFYJ2WW0fc0vz9s11pmSdI8lkz7qWC6Cu9it0fZKnlWXs/9 oG8Mju4TaAmF0teYO5KGpXl8ZHzxkgYfwvk/xhxlWjKK6InkqKwtqxmAMRiLSNjXFSWE AItwcGU7D3y+gCVmk9kGae9YhvwMhP0g+tSlbKCJcStiM2YmOo7ipOnUwH3Dvmdcrmax FS+n+q2ymv2d+gpmtc8HYs3Lve6iwCqKapKmURmOIzskh2WtPTuEqL256HsFyG4eqqkV llBA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=LC/KGfNPxOoAloQ3U7pG6cFbGrouEbMoeVuBWEYuQPg=; b=VilFcd3ibJnlwup1CPVrFE6AnuqtPbX5OGFq+pYvj3bvmAac39benLMTbuW/lXZ+/I cvocy+UtJstgZIj/koa87o50yciZ8LD4ITjiGwV4AtWL7v7ildxppq3nLRvGwgiZPlgZ N6h4wk3NRzs/xCqLEmhxNcXZabH1XavHmLm6czqxymqT4t6sKvrrn6037qgWBNbtcJ73 uR6+BF0+n1gRxrfoFr6AtVkkT8mJtXuhHYlrMBzvhcBESeu2HK9vVBIrNRC473VUNar4 sy0b9YGbaCSW/JMYwi0L0N8O1MXj3MeB1aYy/0ZngnlEaAlxFvKgBYe2iUfP708dJz5L mssg== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPDTUE9QiZZ8D44kXzSxvGau6AQHqpTFYLlUhS+8ZFnIbgcTfwW2 WO6PPVbxjDoJNgM8Dfech7ZhW6Bzz4o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x2263Mrl5eCYbfkv8RZSVAQFMXlkIP/0/Tiwc86zJhom8pz3j47dwmzAg6zAglqSUh9Rzia6e+g== X-Received: by 10.80.205.219 with SMTP id h27mr702703edj.159.1518996359621; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:25:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mutt-hbsd ([93.174.93.71]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w2sm18678309edb.25.2018.02.18.15.25.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 18 Feb 2018 15:25:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 18:25:50 -0500 From: Shawn Webb To: Tim Daneliuk Cc: "Eric A. Borisch" , David Marec , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stable/11 r329462 - Meltdown/Spectre MFC questions Message-ID: <20180218232550.wp4ukhvnitlkc3cj@mutt-hbsd> References: <20180217194726.GA79666@icarus.home.lan> <58099107-bc04-8ad9-3909-16bf5297dd2b@davenulle.org> <20180218165001.whbmonks7fq27mgq@mutt-hbsd> <9b010393-e60f-5cbf-0a55-6082798fd237@tundraware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lj5w6dxbkmiyfsyq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9b010393-e60f-5cbf-0a55-6082798fd237@tundraware.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD mutt-hbsd 12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x6A84658F52456EEE User-Agent: NeoMutt/20171215 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 23:26:01 -0000 --lj5w6dxbkmiyfsyq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:02:08PM +0000, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 02/18/2018 09:50 PM, Eric A. Borisch wrote: > >=20 > > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 3:17 PM Tim Daneliuk > wrote: > >=20 > > On 02/18/2018 05:47 PM, David Marec wrote: > > > #cpucontrol??-u??-v??/dev/cpuctl0 > > > cpucontrol: skipping /usr/local/share/cpucontrol/m32306c3_0000002= 2.fw of rev??0x22:??up??to??date > >=20 > >=20 > > While we're on the subject ... where does one find these microcode = updates > > anyway.?? On a 10.4-STABLE system, the command above blows out beca= use > > there is no director /usr/local/share/cpucontrol ... so I am missing > > the magic to get it populated. > >=20 > > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- > > Tim Daneliuk?? ?? ??tundra@tundraware.com > > PGP Key:?? ?? ?? ?? ??http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ > >=20 > >=20 > > It???s provided by the sysutils/devcpu-data port. > >=20 > > ??- Eric > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 > Yes thanks, I finally tripped across that myself :) Do we have any insig= ht on > whether this addresses the latest vulnerabilities? The latest Intel microcode gives CPUs affected by Spectre new MSRs, one of which is to toggle IBRS. Vendors like Dell have started issuing firmware updates that also applies the new CPU microcode. Check with your vendor to see if they've shipped such firmware updates. Having the CPU microcode applied is not enough. The OS needs to support the new MSRs. FreeBSD 11-STABLE now does after the PTI and IBRS MFCs. Thanks, --=20 Shawn Webb Cofounder and Security Engineer HardenedBSD Tor-ified Signal: +1 443-546-8752 GPG Key ID: 0x6A84658F52456EEE GPG Key Fingerprint: 2ABA B6BD EF6A F486 BE89 3D9E 6A84 658F 5245 6EEE --lj5w6dxbkmiyfsyq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEKrq2ve9q9Ia+iT2eaoRlj1JFbu4FAlqKC3kACgkQaoRlj1JF bu5ADhAArQhHFotF2SfJrGXE794cn2VDyRRM13Al4i8pOV1L99KLoOBRNg4uDLh6 nT3JefTniTAcZSBfzgxbG70R2pyjbhNHneapLaeLAER+WGhIoUTCFGCV90n54Qmx mzvsn0Fq0uSD+8IBNlDHxpqX/QIK+Ft6G3EgT+8C0/8DB7joloccs8vALnCE3Og1 sxC1CoQRpNlRaZtvGCmlxmUnsoQZ28GZ2SB9IdoMD21EqImeoCM7Q5BdF1EHIRif ipI78dV7o6jbrNzbtXeDDiLhtv8Q2UbOAXn1Hh3PAt3vG84L6QrBLgEfpgnDqJWW EN7Cb0B9S+wctllTFJLSaSwFgUqwA8tQftNEfGKC65IpHywFQ9pLKWl+3EVRbAhZ JngfwNiWyxu/upY82SqiWspi4E4RYInQZ15wYMJJ4yAdF/WyHEu1WbIotwOZdu1E KehPp1l6+sBaFBQC8kw9pKd20lybA0nT02i2UifCBVBjr2US8p+ysXBvMbFCakyk 4szAM5j8EK8AbVqmT71GDpdZAzLk4KR6EBYOi4s2JDGVdJAnOPVZg9CgZoSBvkdG 2e8Ci4lK6qwK3QE8LcMLSRk6/7LcfKKq0Balx7gft0LMwiCWZxw1tcrpJuOWX3Ak j+rB5EqkLE9Ym6MwWW4EydJkrFBlRuSjTcoizxqjlgHWGMzsC94= =0dYB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lj5w6dxbkmiyfsyq-- From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Feb 18 23:33:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92111F108E3 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 23:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0278C73106 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 23:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1INXQP6029988 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 00:33:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w1INXQOV029985 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 00:33:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 00:33:26 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD stable Subject: Re: Locale problem updating 10.3 to 11.1 In-Reply-To: <20180218230251.GA60727@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> Message-ID: References: <20180218230251.GA60727@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (BSF 202 2017-01-01) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 23:33:34 -0000 On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 00:02+0100, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: > Hello. > > After upgrading from 10.3 to 11.1 by building source (as of r329364), > I experienced some problems that seems to be related to locale. > > Using > > echo $LANG -- $LC_CTYPE > no_NO.ISO8859-1 -- no_NO.ISO8859-1 That's nb_NO.ISO8859-1. nb for norsk bokmål. > ls emitted question mark for Norwegian characters (æøå), the menu > and title fonts in fvwm2 displayed unknown to me symbols except for > certain capital letters and yet other programs like the worker filemanager > truncated filenames at the first Norwegian letter. > > I had to revert to 10.3 because of this but if anybody has some clues > what may be the reason for this, I'd appreciate it. -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Feb 19 05:14:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D3BF026C1 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 05:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x231.google.com (mail-ua0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A189808B6 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 05:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x231.google.com with SMTP id m43so5429374uah.1 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:14:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=PlG51fqfn0ZAgB7gXNXSJAvU9jNJzkEHKamB9y0OhBA=; b=uaOIZlaCp1cDlYo+eRbwzXAPA6Vy8MozaN1xL5duaosqqWq6hssuYj8NxcEKBnHNWd sBanSOvhqib3al0OXhx2/gj6uXhsHbSga0RshhmwlT/hb6+gGwtQ6VvDfgKkHs5d+fP5 pwVM1UkHw79qLcgvDOa8ZgQ3QoZeeQHq98M8g6OsU3xmjJQvcYmU/0zb6Aen3UeUMFES 7HryCBPla6zrk0q/G2ba7P7qZI/hJGdmdyvhLPkB++5WVFbaIcx3nc0pZHl+MG8gUzP6 DqoJUtxYpN3bKfc7we7qAGZbendaz0h5TEgmxGZsrFMocc6w6ILh3waxd3nrp45qjuU5 R3UA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=PlG51fqfn0ZAgB7gXNXSJAvU9jNJzkEHKamB9y0OhBA=; b=TRRUVdMM/PSJJIMgCa1T8WWtlc/RbIDDfX6YZECpS05dzZyy7R6FU5wx2/2uvJA8yb jfzzW3tRKN5Gtc5YxNzTivevBXdk+qDgvKhWqHtfuiLYs23drqlYX3IGs7ReXc2/Zczt g7/pGJNYm4l/Gt2fZChOLxGPdZwYryD7Hhcc44d56TrPTSOB5q9SkEUClqiUSfteuAy9 StBcWMxDrMksd8Bw1iaTNKbVoK4CyolFI6GdXT7kRHefv4Re5TU2crELMj53DmykrM3r uU/+YbuXV/SQ00U0aO4COJXBSmMFL/B2NjrPKz2EHQ8mKSKKLVjl7bszPvgBFiuAJrb2 r/TQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPDMmXbSa5s384G9czkLO5kt0A09TWWdUqu3Vr5J24AVQKVM38Hy 5vavzqTjiMb9hI+iXSczHxc1GPhyukXOK5AB82MLIT04 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x224jbSHPJvye9HGfhXU/vV/nHkMds8dld9RhfpsdrA9nw7z1SDPN0EkAi25C8z6SimnmQQmC5jFyPd4jFRjhMWs= X-Received: by 10.176.23.74 with SMTP id k10mr6458641uaf.161.1519017264526; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:14:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.103.39.199 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:14:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <3ad595ce-e15b-d475-e057-4dde88e2630c@selasky.org> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:14:24 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: w1etPx91k2DiMEClGriu_ZIev4c Message-ID: Subject: Re: [CFT] [X11] graphics/drm-next-kmod now builds, loads and works on FreeBSD-11-stable To: Hans Petter Selasky Cc: FreeBSD Stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 05:14:25 -0000 On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 2:36 PM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On 02/18/18 23:27, Kevin Oberman wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Hans Petter Selasky >> wrote: >> >> Hi FreeBSD desktop users! >>> >>> During the past week and over the weekend all parts needed for building, >>> loading and using graphics/drm-next-kmod on FreeBSD-11-stable have been >>> completed! >>> >>> A big thanks to all the people contributing to graphics support under >>> FreeBSD in both kernel and user-space! You'll find their names in the >>> commit logs including myself :-) >>> >>> Links: >>> https://www.freshports.org/graphics/drm-next-kmod >>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/329527 >>> >>> Issues are reported here: >>> https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/kms-drm/issues >>> >>> --HPS >>> >>> > Hi Kevin, > > >> Wow! That is awesome. Thanks to all of the contributors. >> > > Thank you! > > >> Any instructions? Am I right that the mod setting driver should generally >> be used. None of the links above really covers implementation. >> > > I believe the package when you install it will give you some instructions > in the pkg-message. > > Basically: > > portsnap fetch update > > Make sure your kernel sources in /usr/src . > cd /usr/src > make buildkernel -jX > make installkernel -jX > > cd /usr/ports/graphics/drm-next-kmod > make all install clean > > Edit /etc/rc.conf and add for example: > > kld_list="i915kms" > > Then reboot and twin your thumbs. > > If it fails goto single user mode. > > mount -a > > Edit /etc/rc.conf and remove the kld_list=... > Save and type exit. > > Before starting X.org you should have the correct xf86-video-xxx drivers > installed, because then 2D and 3D acceleration will activate. > > A quick tip for tear-free video with intel drivers: > > cat /usr/local/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf > Section "Device" > Identifier "Device0" > Driver "intel" > Option "AccelMethod" "sna" > Option "TearFree" "true" > EndSection > > --HPS > Thanks, Hans! I should have looked at the message file. It explained most of it, though I especially appreciate the tearfree config as I am using Intel graphics. This is also the first I have seen of modular config files. Guess I have some man page reading to do. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Feb 19 09:10:52 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E5AF1160D for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from nmsh7.e.nsc.no (nmsh7.e.nsc.no [148.123.160.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C5F68DB6 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from terraplane.org (ti0027a400-1948.bb.online.no [88.88.110.169]) by nmsh7.nsc.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1J8Af6j034242 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:10:45 +0100 Received: from terraplane.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terraplane.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w1J8BTSC063249 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:11:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: (from rumrunner@localhost) by terraplane.org (8.14.5/8.13.8/Submit) id w1J8BTNF063248 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:11:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rumrunner) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:11:29 +0100 From: Eivind Nicolay Evensen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Locale problem updating 10.3 to 11.1 Message-ID: <20180219081129.GB62932@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> References: <20180218230251.GA60727@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:10:52 -0000 On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 12:33:26AM +0100, Trond Endrestøl wrote: > On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 00:02+0100, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: > > > Hello. > > > > After upgrading from 10.3 to 11.1 by building source (as of r329364), > > I experienced some problems that seems to be related to locale. > > > > Using > > > echo $LANG -- $LC_CTYPE > > no_NO.ISO8859-1 -- no_NO.ISO8859-1 > > That's nb_NO.ISO8859-1. > nb for norsk bokmål. Interesting, I had not noticed any nb_* in freebsd and can no longer remember how I found no_NO. However, on 10.3 they seem to be the same: > ls -ld /usr/share/locale/n{o,b}*ISO* drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 11 jan 2017 /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-1 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 11 jan 2017 /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-15 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 11 jan 2017 /usr/share/locale/no_NO.ISO8859-1 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 11 jan 2017 /usr/share/locale/no_NO.ISO8859-15 > diff -urN /usr/share/locale/n{o,b}_NO.ISO8859-1 I'll recheck if they differ in 11.1. > > ls emitted question mark for Norwegian characters (æøå), the menu > > and title fonts in fvwm2 displayed unknown to me symbols except for > > certain capital letters and yet other programs like the worker filemanager > > truncated filenames at the first Norwegian letter. > > > > I had to revert to 10.3 because of this but if anybody has some clues > > what may be the reason for this, I'd appreciate it. > > -- > Trond. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Eivind From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Feb 19 09:27:58 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FAFF12A20 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vtr.rulingia.com (vtr.rulingia.com [IPv6:2001:19f0:5801:ebe:5400:1ff:fe53:30fd]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vtr.rulingia.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB30B69849; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:27:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from server.rulingia.com (ppp59-167-167-3.static.internode.on.net [59.167.167.3]) by vtr.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1J9RkQZ033137 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 19 Feb 2018 20:27:52 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1J9Rerm005915 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Feb 2018 20:27:40 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w1J9Re21005914; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 20:27:40 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from peter) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 20:27:40 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Kyle Evans Cc: imp@freebsd.org, Bryan Drewery , FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Subject: Re: Problems building 11-stable/i386 with readonly /usr/src Message-ID: <20180219092740.GT3353@server.rulingia.com> References: <20180218091204.GR3353@server.rulingia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QVgWX4+QEldMe/r9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 09:27:58 -0000 --QVgWX4+QEldMe/r9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2018-Feb-18 09:06:38 -0600, Kyle Evans wrote: >On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 3:12 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: >> Sometime between r329122 and r329157, my 11-stable i386 box stopped >> being able to buildworld with a readonly /usr/src. I've been updating >> regularly but the problem still remains at r329450. I don't have any >> problems building the same tree on amd64 or building head on i386 or >> amd64. Does anyone have any ideas? >> >> Starting from an empty /usr/obj, the failure is: >> ... > >This would have come in with the recent MFC of imp@'s rototilling. I >seem to recall some build system funkiness that put .OBJDIR inside the >src tree inconsistently before recent-ish changes in head. CC'ing >bdrewery@ and imp@ in hopes they have an idea of how to handle this in >stable/11. The offending ln invocation would be this one: >https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/11/stand/defs.mk?view=3Dmarkup#l178 Thanks for that. I added some debug code to stand/defs.mk and confirmed that in stand/efi, the ${_ILINKS} target is invoked in /usr/src/stand/efi, whereas in (eg) stand/zfs, it is invoked in /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/efi. The main difference is that SUBDIR is empty on i386 but non-empty on amd64. If I add i386 to the main build list (see patch below) then it all works. I'm not sure why efi isn't built on i386 because boot1, libefi and loader all support i386. (This obviously is a work-around rather than a real fix but might be an option if the relevant head changes can't be MFC'd immediately). [Caution: copy and paste, tabs have been converted to spaces] Index: stand/efi/Makefile =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --- stand/efi/Makefile (revision 329477) +++ stand/efi/Makefile (working copy) @@ -14,7 +14,8 @@ =20 .if ${MACHINE_CPUARCH} =3D=3D "aarch64" || \ ${MACHINE_CPUARCH} =3D=3D "amd64" || \ - ${MACHINE_CPUARCH} =3D=3D "arm" + ${MACHINE_CPUARCH} =3D=3D "arm" || \ + ${MACHINE_CPUARCH} =3D=3D "i386" SUBDIR+=3D libefi loader boot1 .endif =20 --=20 Peter Jeremy --QVgWX4+QEldMe/r9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEE7rKYbDBnHnTmXCJ+FqWXoOSiCzQFAlqKmIxfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEVF QjI5ODZDMzA2NzFFNzRFNjVDMjI3RTE2QTU5N0EwRTRBMjBCMzQACgkQFqWXoOSi CzT/2Q/+IP1RAbT1Qx7g8O7tNxmH+r6ZXW+DXkd1l4JfxD1lOe6sI6ICUXdqCd+i YCMpUjT+qwp6mBhKqY3uR2Jd27shxQpaHbr4eqhMKKeEQGiWlXP5mRPucknb1U66 0ItLYnXt09qcW9NahalDmK0T4s4FYMyG5e8rIIG6O4IJ1B7dY7eZVhJ0Knqr+NiY Ee2vciFzCuvlzT6ad6SEaGB7k0bJV7iOlWBysCD13Ij4yI/EOvjtzBAeSND97Nqt BvJd/5FgbPYCDhLmNWZ2ecSbJ9/AHPq5DouXJZzPsWsSdXDVo0Z2/U4aRFutr7fe JtmzVmqBB+GfeQ1hNwZH9kRvXrZi5I9TWu99vtYH/vmXXUYNXA4FD2R5WYJkmHZn 0SGmcT9Rf6SmiEPFKQVa7QtjynbGmXVqZBFY9lVNNoqGJJPF3t7Cxld1isEFG/pr Vo+DhUX715OkpSPK/Ecaomt3dfN9Aw9vP3tYgc43/echToksD8JpOXvUrI99mh3R YSXAFCjW6sowJxvAfsDOlqsXayXUkfd/99AFdRXThQWNidjKPAh0CcU/ItWoK5sB nCWkM/RANcksY/S9HVESpq5HkO406bS4Rxu7Fi6IC+LYpP8mdFNTeUCEfQpCPMqk rENJeo8ENrh662srEpQmM4FUdAnS2KpBnAHvwM2u77FBHvSkiUo= =KST5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QVgWX4+QEldMe/r9-- From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Feb 19 11:39:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDE7F1D9A4 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:39:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from mx0.gentlemail.de (mx0.gentlemail.de [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 173426FFA6 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from mh0.gentlemail.de (ezra.dcm1.omnilan.net [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a135]) by mx0.gentlemail.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w1JBdgND063757 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:39:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from titan.inop.mo1.omnilan.net (s1.omnilan.de [217.91.127.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mh0.gentlemail.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 24A69D57; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:39:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5A8AB77D.9000305@omnilan.de> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:39:41 +0100 From: Harry Schmalzbauer Organization: OmniLAN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-DE; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100906 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 11.2 roadmap - Up to date www.freebsd.org/releng/#schedule? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mx0.gentlemail.de [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a130]); Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:39:42 +0100 (CET) X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: mx0.gentlemail.de; Sender-ip: ; Sender-helo: mh0.gentlemail.de; ) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:48:49 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:39:45 -0000 Dear REs et al. commit log indicates that 11.2 is going to be on it's way in not too distant future – my personal interpretation only! Is https://www.freebsd.org/releng/#schedule up to date? Or is there a different/better source for such info (for those without svn accounts)? Thanks, -harry From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Feb 19 13:18:57 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D2DF25A58 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:18:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from connect.ultra-secure.de (connect.ultra-secure.de [88.198.71.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C86A74BD3 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:18:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (Haraka outbound); Mon, 19 Feb 2018 14:18:50 +0100 Authentication-Results: connect.ultra-secure.de; auth=pass (login); spf=none smtp.mailfrom=ultra-secure.de Received-SPF: None (connect.ultra-secure.de: domain of ultra-secure.de does not designate 127.0.0.10 as permitted sender) receiver=connect.ultra-secure.de; identity=mailfrom; client-ip=127.0.0.10; helo=connect.ultra-secure.de; envelope-from= Received: from connect.ultra-secure.de (webmail [127.0.0.10]) by connect.ultra-secure.de (Haraka/2.6.2-toaster) with ESMTPSA id F765DC1C-17CE-4FE0-BF19-48C1017BC334.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA verify=NO); Mon, 19 Feb 2018 14:18:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 14:18:43 +0100 From: rainer@ultra-secure.de To: Harry Schmalzbauer Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 11.2 roadmap - Up to date www.freebsd.org/releng/#schedule? In-Reply-To: <5A8AB77D.9000305@omnilan.de> References: <5A8AB77D.9000305@omnilan.de> Message-ID: <56a069a7837761da0886dda2227ee330@ultra-secure.de> X-Sender: rainer@ultra-secure.de User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.0 X-Haraka-GeoIP: --, , NaNkm X-Haraka-GeoIP-Received: X-Haraka-p0f: os="undefined undefined" link_type="undefined" distance=undefined total_conn=undefined shared_ip=Y X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on spamassassin X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Haraka-Karma: score: 6, good: 486, bad: 0, connections: 492, history: 486, pass:all_good, relaying X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:18:57 -0000 Am 2018-02-19 12:39, schrieb Harry Schmalzbauer: > Dear REs et al. > > commit log indicates that 11.2 is going to be on it's way in not too > distant future – my personal interpretation only! > > Is https://www.freebsd.org/releng/#schedule up to date? > Or is there a different/better source for such info (for those without > svn accounts)? > Absurdly enough, it's linked on Reddit: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.2R/schedule.html But not on the main-page... 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Warm regards, Brent Watson Demand Generation Executive If you don't wish to receive our newsletters, reply back with "unsubscribe " in subject line From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Feb 19 18:58:16 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC067F1A923 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Andre.Albsmeier@siemens.com) Received: from thoth.sbs.de (thoth.sbs.de [192.35.17.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "thoth.sbs.de", Issuer "Siemens Issuing CA Internet Server 2017" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B6F285A42; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Andre.Albsmeier@siemens.com) Received: from mail2.siemens.de (mail2.siemens.de [139.25.208.11]) by thoth.sbs.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1JIiE5S023809 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:44:14 +0100 Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.40.130]) by mail2.siemens.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w1JIiENJ027941; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:44:14 +0100 Received: (from user@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) id w1JIiEEQ033371; Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:44:13 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Mike Karels Cc: Dimitry Andric , Andre Albsmeier , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: i386 with 4GB RAM: less than 2GB available on A2SAV (Intel Atom E3940) Message-ID: <20180219184413.GA9910@bali> References: <201801281632.w0SGWiui055204@mail.karels.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201801281632.w0SGWiui055204@mail.karels.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 18:58:17 -0000 On Sun, 28-Jan-2018 at 10:32:44 -0600, Mike Karels wrote: > > On 28 Jan 2018, at 15:57, Andre Albsmeier = > > wrote: > > > I have a lot of machines running with 4 GB physical RAM and, for > > > some reasons, I still have to use a 32 bits OS. > > >=20 > > > All of them show something between 3 and 3.5 GB of RAM available > > > in dmesg but the brand new Supermicro A2SAV really shocked me: > > >=20 > > > FreeBSD 11.1-STABLE #0: Mon Jan 15 06:57:10 CET 2018 > > > ... > > > real memory =3D 4294967296 (4096 MB) > > > avail memory =3D 1939558400 (1849 MB) > > > ... > > >=20 > > > So do people have any ideas how I might get a bit closer to at least > > > 3 GB? I assume there are no FreeBSD knobs which might help but hope > > > dies last... > > > This is a common problem on i386. Most likely some ranges are reserved > > for I/O mappings, such as video cards. If you boot with -v, I think the > > kernel prints an overview of the physical ram chunks available? I don't > > know of any other way to get such an overview. > > > Another option is to try PAE, but I have no idea how stable that is... > > > -Dimitry > > I suspect that the unavailable RAM has been mapped above 4 GB by the BIOS. > > About PAE: at $JOB, we have a FreeBSD 8.2 system that has been running > PAE reliably since 8.2 was new. Also, we ship amd64 systems that run > mostly 32-bit binaries, which works well. Finally I found some time to play with the PAE option. I added option PAE option KVA_PAGES=1024 and the A2SAV booted and gave me real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 4048207872 (3860 MB) Very encouraging, this is double of what I had before! So I decided to try this on my desktop machine which also boots but loading the i915kms and drm2 stuff fails with info: [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 drmn0: on vgapci0 error: [drm:pid949:i915_gem_gtt_init] *ERROR* Scratch setup failed device_attach: drmn0 attach returned 12 The KMS stuff doesn't support the A2SAV anyway so I can't test how it would behave there... From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Feb 19 22:35:02 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0442F051A8 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-io0-x236.google.com (mail-io0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30E95700DC for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-io0-x236.google.com with SMTP id 30so7653163iog.2 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 14:35:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=zFxYM5/1EYUg+Llsgi8MNSsYzQyuvQUn2enfPYPl/vg=; b=WLAebcnLxT0F2MmLkjQhY82NkfeVm9/aKdz6Hb0R4G3//w9cJ9boFQlmdg8bESvVVQ 6DFxhZW0midk0UsRspeh0suRqm/HKQp8pEBCOLT7SspQ9Cvu5spuBCBbA643otJOpMQk 7PdTDnc5+ngWYhTFdbfgEs7aUV2QU1K7KpNweGOOXd+ZG8uUhsJ/TDpkYOSHwPlWNiFP hXXBFzEvnu7cSTQV6O+Wm0S/toY7IqNgY6j6Q02fvM7/V+2hv7bSM/LuO9sdyV1hPzQl XOCCmBbw4lrtgxyfgxmUNVBGK0hHrCcNlclc0Effk0Kuy3VxuVeZp5/DBGNh9VQetF48 3wkQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=zFxYM5/1EYUg+Llsgi8MNSsYzQyuvQUn2enfPYPl/vg=; b=gJUKwx+ULMBx7mr4c0fXkqps0wphgxHNxjOxzdiuUeIpZiMmo686v6FiyMRJClg0Dp NkghWsV/kGOmI8ylKpjKg4/mjOaV4mZAqY/xmPqLAC4LlW4G95s9nVFyNAaoUw0amD5R gpd+8j9dlPLULPw6lnm0SS5W1NTx9E97p1gSWHyB1V7Y34PgpRFGrXfPqgVWR92LGH9F irFA5hEWDW9rxnXYF/7NCCR1/B8d1VxRngd2C+jhOp9yQbLX9bGXUaDWPCUkuSUXeY9f U3oNobtNfxBoad7HOH7eKa3jajK0T4BwU4sf+ev22XAIyixBnKMo7NBP0Bm4Zx4JhxVu rkrg== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPCH4ZqKFqSvkDnUEqnorOEsmQRPuetWE3soagNolj3iFZN7zOfB 9m9rfP3cgSrqdOUVd1zbiRBnvXAam+6h91hYBq0uQw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x224Ter1XS9ZYJ5U7olLUp+6oNkgLcST0FDtoB6oxJDOGEzUv9twXSl4JHsvzNgjjoR2CAh30k22aLx/OI3vtkqk= X-Received: by 10.107.180.83 with SMTP id d80mr6804674iof.168.1519079701403; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 14:35:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.79.201.67 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Feb 2018 14:35:00 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [50.253.99.174] In-Reply-To: <20180219092740.GT3353@server.rulingia.com> References: <20180218091204.GR3353@server.rulingia.com> <20180219092740.GT3353@server.rulingia.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 15:35:00 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: WDMRmkthlHwV709OSVfr_-gUdCc Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problems building 11-stable/i386 with readonly /usr/src To: Peter Jeremy Cc: Kyle Evans , Warner Losh , Bryan Drewery , FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:35:02 -0000 On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 2:27 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2018-Feb-18 09:06:38 -0600, Kyle Evans wrote: > >On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 3:12 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > >> Sometime between r329122 and r329157, my 11-stable i386 box stopped > >> being able to buildworld with a readonly /usr/src. I've been updating > >> regularly but the problem still remains at r329450. I don't have any > >> problems building the same tree on amd64 or building head on i386 or > >> amd64. Does anyone have any ideas? > >> > >> Starting from an empty /usr/obj, the failure is: > >> ... > > > >This would have come in with the recent MFC of imp@'s rototilling. I > >seem to recall some build system funkiness that put .OBJDIR inside the > >src tree inconsistently before recent-ish changes in head. CC'ing > >bdrewery@ and imp@ in hopes they have an idea of how to handle this in > >stable/11. The offending ln invocation would be this one: > >https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/11/stand/defs.mk?view=markup#l178 > > Thanks for that. I added some debug code to stand/defs.mk and confirmed > that in stand/efi, the ${_ILINKS} target is invoked in /usr/src/stand/efi, > whereas in (eg) stand/zfs, it is invoked in /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/efi. > The main difference is that SUBDIR is empty on i386 but non-empty on amd64. > If I add i386 to the main build list (see patch below) then it all works. > I'm not sure why efi isn't built on i386 because boot1, libefi and loader > all support i386. (This obviously is a work-around rather than a real fix > but might be an option if the relevant head changes can't be MFC'd > immediately). > i386 does not support efi at all. We likely shouldn't include efi at all in the subdirs at the top level as a better workaround. Warner > > [Caution: copy and paste, tabs have been converted to spaces] > Index: stand/efi/Makefile > =================================================================== > --- stand/efi/Makefile (revision 329477) > +++ stand/efi/Makefile (working copy) > @@ -14,7 +14,8 @@ > > .if ${MACHINE_CPUARCH} == "aarch64" || \ > ${MACHINE_CPUARCH} == "amd64" || \ > - ${MACHINE_CPUARCH} == "arm" > + ${MACHINE_CPUARCH} == "arm" || \ > + ${MACHINE_CPUARCH} == "i386" > SUBDIR+= libefi loader boot1 > .endif > > -- > Peter Jeremy > From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Tue Feb 20 22:36:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80868F0AD4B for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 304A574A63; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (unknown [127.0.1.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E832AE07; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (localhost [172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54C98072; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:36:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.xzibition.com Received: from mail.xzibition.com ([172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (mail.xzibition.com [172.31.3.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id biw2ffYOd1jl; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Problems building 11-stable/i386 with readonly /usr/src DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 mail.xzibition.com B3613806C To: Peter Jeremy , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org References: <20180218091204.GR3353@server.rulingia.com> From: Bryan Drewery Organization: FreeBSD Message-ID: <9504c66a-b6ad-d6d1-e811-2b9d54303dc8@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 14:36:16 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180218091204.GR3353@server.rulingia.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0T39lSV6Jd9KeSKBYGCvtBauIzpi7sAKT" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 22:36:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --0T39lSV6Jd9KeSKBYGCvtBauIzpi7sAKT Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="w3HSXXIhYefCU8NVxTXPFEDPQiRLskieZ"; protected-headers="v1" From: Bryan Drewery To: Peter Jeremy , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <9504c66a-b6ad-d6d1-e811-2b9d54303dc8@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Problems building 11-stable/i386 with readonly /usr/src References: <20180218091204.GR3353@server.rulingia.com> In-Reply-To: <20180218091204.GR3353@server.rulingia.com> --w3HSXXIhYefCU8NVxTXPFEDPQiRLskieZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2/18/18 1:12 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > Sometime between r329122 and r329157, my 11-stable i386 box stopped > being able to buildworld with a readonly /usr/src. I've been updating > regularly but the problem still remains at r329450. I don't have any > problems building the same tree on amd64 or building head on i386 or > amd64. Does anyone have any ideas? >=20 > Starting from an empty /usr/obj, the failure is: > ... >>>> stage 4.3: building everything > ... > =3D=3D=3D> stand/zfs (all) > Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/machine > machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include > Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/x86 > x86 -> /usr/src/sys/x86/include > Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/zfs.o > Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/skein.o > Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/skein_block.o > Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/libzfsboot.a > building static zfsboot library > =3D=3D=3D> stand/efi (all) > machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include > ln: machine: Read-only file system > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop. > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/stand/efi > .ERROR_TARGET=3D'machine' > .ERROR_META_FILE=3D'' > .MAKE.LEVEL=3D'4' > MAKEFILE=3D'' > .MAKE.MODE=3D'meta missing-filemon=3Dyes missing-meta=3Dyes silent=3Dye= s verbose' > _ERROR_CMD=3D'.PHONY' > .CURDIR=3D'/usr/src/stand/efi' > .MAKE=3D'make' > .OBJDIR=3D'/usr/src/stand/efi' It's wanting to use .OBJDIR=3D.CURDIR. I'm thinking this is due to the bsd.init.mk abuse in stand/. I say "abuse" because bsd.init.mk has this comment and I've only been writing my logic with the assumption that the comment is valid, which I know Warner disagrees with. > # The include file includes , > # ../Makefile.inc and ; this is used at the > # top of all files that actually "build something" I'll try to get a fix in later today or tomorrow. > .TARGETS=3D'all' > DESTDIR=3D'/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp' > LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D'' > MACHINE=3D'i386' > MACHINE_ARCH=3D'i386' > MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D'/usr/obj' > MAKESYSPATH=3D'/usr/src/share/mk' > MAKE_VERSION=3D'20170720' > PATH=3D'/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legac= y/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/= usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin' > SRCTOP=3D'/usr/src' > OBJTOP=3D'/usr/src' > .MAKE.MAKEFILES=3D'/usr/src/share/mk/sys.mk /usr/src/share/mk/local.sys= =2Eenv.mk /usr/src/share/mk/src.sys.env.mk /etc/src-env.conf /usr/src/sha= re/mk/bsd.mkopt.mk /etc/make.conf /usr/src/share/mk/local.sys.mk /usr/src= /share/mk/src.sys.mk Makefile /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.init.mk /usr/src/shar= e/mk/bsd.opts.mk /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk /usr/src/share/mk/local.ini= t.mk /usr/src/share/mk/src.init.mk /usr/src/stand/efi/../Makefile.inc /us= r/src/stand/efi/../defs.mk /usr/src/share/mk/src.opts.mk /usr/src/share/m= k/bsd.own.mk /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.compiler.mk /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.comp= iler.mk /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.subdir.mk' > .PATH=3D'. /usr/src/stand/efi' > *** Error code 1 >=20 --=20 Regards, Bryan Drewery --w3HSXXIhYefCU8NVxTXPFEDPQiRLskieZ-- --0T39lSV6Jd9KeSKBYGCvtBauIzpi7sAKT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEE+Rc8ssOq6npcih8JNddxu25Gl88FAlqMouEACgkQNddxu25G l8944QgAp/xK3jiRuDZNm5Owt+x3jwOCwvC6uK9ggVKWmEo7nrEddhhgXEdNCQ7w vSP0FDiGf4A3DHqPGjGg8QbdqnyH8Cem0I8GCnZoBf1UADbXQ3njV/Pshpqzjrnd bD3uS0PvgHRj089FoMgGNhzQOvXKp+u2Q2Z4dyp4cWyvQS8Hmj5jBTuXoJOTFyAg 23zRS+MFhSpdIVa3m1b5qyh0D8qsK+0B3PCZ9hXubhBwchPIM3LgEV1O4weLdwkJ XH74ccRJyVRfyI/Vkq/Cw6Gis4m5Bsvh/HfzDGf/XonGlJFYOHkEBNUKhrA0PW+7 SrEgpopPprpdnPv0qVZSSjWD3kSW7g== =K4d8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0T39lSV6Jd9KeSKBYGCvtBauIzpi7sAKT-- From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Tue Feb 20 23:07:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426BCF0EB53 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 23:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from nmsh5.e.nsc.no (nmsh5.e.nsc.no [148.123.160.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C707666A for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 23:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from terraplane.org (ti0027a400-1948.bb.online.no [88.88.110.169]) by nmsh5.nsc.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1KN7TtO003074 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 00:07:33 +0100 Received: from terraplane.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terraplane.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w1KN8MSL072595 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 00:08:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: (from rumrunner@localhost) by terraplane.org (8.14.5/8.13.8/Submit) id w1KN8MK5072594 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 00:08:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rumrunner) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 00:08:22 +0100 From: Eivind Nicolay Evensen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Locale problem updating 10.3 to 11.1 Message-ID: <20180220230822.GA72560@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> References: <20180218230251.GA60727@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> <20180219081129.GB62932@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20180219081129.GB62932@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 23:07:41 -0000 On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 09:11:29AM +0100, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 12:33:26AM +0100, Trond Endrestøl wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 00:02+0100, Eivind Nicolay Evensen wrote: > > > > > Hello. > > > > > > After upgrading from 10.3 to 11.1 by building source (as of r329364), > > > I experienced some problems that seems to be related to locale. > > > > > > Using > > > > echo $LANG -- $LC_CTYPE > > > no_NO.ISO8859-1 -- no_NO.ISO8859-1 > > > > That's nb_NO.ISO8859-1. > > nb for norsk bokmål. > > Interesting, I had not noticed any nb_* in freebsd and can no longer > remember how I found no_NO. However, on 10.3 they seem to be the same: > > > ls -ld /usr/share/locale/n{o,b}*ISO* > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 11 jan 2017 /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-1 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 11 jan 2017 /usr/share/locale/nb_NO.ISO8859-15 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 11 jan 2017 /usr/share/locale/no_NO.ISO8859-1 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 11 jan 2017 /usr/share/locale/no_NO.ISO8859-15 > > > diff -urN /usr/share/locale/n{o,b}_NO.ISO8859-1 > > > I'll recheck if they differ in 11.1. And indeed, there's nothing called no_NO any more in 11.1. Thanks for the hint. It's much appreciated. Problem is solved by using nb_NO.ISO8859-1 instead. This part of "20151108" in UPDATING should probably have been enough of a clue for me: Due to a bug in install(1) it is recommended to remove the ancient locales before running make installworld. However, since it was mentioned in a note starting with "Add support for unicode collation" I most likely didn't even read it since I'll never touch unicode. Regards -- Eivind From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Tue Feb 20 23:16:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDB7F0F902 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 23:16:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22d.google.com (mail-it0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57FF076D57 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 23:16:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id v194so155309itb.0 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:16:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=+zbl2fAQ4bROeomrkKKchCVXb8Yl1BmLvA9YxOYhpIs=; b=KuKR9+egG2Y8usb7EMvm8fJLnE0KVF69NN3MS59JwnavY6zmyF+VwE3KZCNQpZUr93 wpgerDGwCP8UZZw1WpOTWn3TON9qP+Jj5gmLwceqwRaH71M6/tKn2n8ug5oZYey1YYCC 02SxSkmPdwbOHFJ4bVSy9hGwRoaCLv7At+o1xO84IyQkTSIyL6AnwcFJiX+sNFXV8AKu cc2YEg0hvaDtQNRt9G0ZxrLIEufTtHVH7J9wTF4EJalAWCcjVXpVQTejO/Rty2UdOzVa kpTHPjzwNiSxRM55Mc/pkI0UsavyrRWTCcGr10ghPggQPf/JCJFpxeFw9cWYcc7wqQYb f3Yw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+zbl2fAQ4bROeomrkKKchCVXb8Yl1BmLvA9YxOYhpIs=; b=PU4fIr7Ejpr2CHPr3c/0RfFzWrL4Ix9F/sF2kiuA7r8efKg0k8BH+YAwivF21DhIO4 qFEk+YURFmYp03UflbdImnUcwp4JiI1jN35mDgfPJO3AZ4oAVqwOOY8psiCpL2OSmoR4 fKWQ5JGStOP53jp0nStTH6i5ffbqS+EOdWaGIsS6xE8kB3rQYjDkx486IDvUboYmGOvo Eg4Lwjo1c1+nfPBnseoEHLkKRJB6lRXFHSUIdilTIN2chrr1lROlqoZhXdqTpfuRGf8S XJydfvBTlVZvVk4/lsibcSVKGvhiVY6yumVUo0lVLnzqVtMecTg3zRHsB+A0QJ2/WbEI HoJg== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPCOdBGWpIQPuQoyDVjHHJ2t1F1KQ70JzTSV/9Y9M0sZSZ+UWVhB vyZqR6l2TNdLJ3dFIVevQfhsksbSJaAq+5I2v+axHg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x227BH+lEJUSuTvoeaFNrj4o9xhrPNaHP/BDAV6FraomLk3rxxs79g6cw6/vA7YWh1uWLZSWqa9OisNe54Fd54QI= X-Received: by 10.36.78.133 with SMTP id r127mr825418ita.36.1519168594273; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:16:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.79.201.67 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Feb 2018 15:16:33 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [50.253.99.174] In-Reply-To: <9504c66a-b6ad-d6d1-e811-2b9d54303dc8@FreeBSD.org> References: <20180218091204.GR3353@server.rulingia.com> <9504c66a-b6ad-d6d1-e811-2b9d54303dc8@FreeBSD.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 16:16:33 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: QzXyzyDowKBhJRYNTDj-wF2j25A Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problems building 11-stable/i386 with readonly /usr/src To: Bryan Drewery Cc: Peter Jeremy , FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 23:16:36 -0000 On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 2/18/18 1:12 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > Sometime between r329122 and r329157, my 11-stable i386 box stopped > > being able to buildworld with a readonly /usr/src. I've been updating > > regularly but the problem still remains at r329450. I don't have any > > problems building the same tree on amd64 or building head on i386 or > > amd64. Does anyone have any ideas? > > > > Starting from an empty /usr/obj, the failure is: > > ... > >>>> stage 4.3: building everything > > ... > > ===> stand/zfs (all) > > Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/machine > > machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include > > Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/x86 > > x86 -> /usr/src/sys/x86/include > > Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/zfs.o > > Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/skein.o > > Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/skein_block.o > > Building /usr/obj/usr/src/stand/zfs/libzfsboot.a > > building static zfsboot library > > ===> stand/efi (all) > > machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include > > ln: machine: Read-only file system > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop. > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src/stand/efi > > .ERROR_TARGET='machine' > > .ERROR_META_FILE='' > > .MAKE.LEVEL='4' > > MAKEFILE='' > > .MAKE.MODE='meta missing-filemon=yes missing-meta=yes silent=yes verbose' > > _ERROR_CMD='.PHONY' > > .CURDIR='/usr/src/stand/efi' > > .MAKE='make' > > .OBJDIR='/usr/src/stand/efi' > > It's wanting to use .OBJDIR=.CURDIR. > > I'm thinking this is due to the bsd.init.mk abuse in stand/. I say > "abuse" because bsd.init.mk has this comment and I've only been writing > my logic with the assumption that the comment is valid, which I know > Warner disagrees with. > > > # The include file includes , > > # ../Makefile.inc and ; this is used at the > > # top of all files that actually "build something" > > I'll try to get a fix in later today or tomorrow. > Is there a supported way to have all that done before the rest of the Makefile is read in? Or at least the Makefile.inc bits? If so, then this is abuse. If not, then I find it hard to see as abuse, but am open to a convincing argument and alternative way to accomplish what I need. Warner > > .TARGETS='all' > > DESTDIR='/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp' > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH='' > > MACHINE='i386' > > MACHINE_ARCH='i386' > > MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX='/usr/obj' > > MAKESYSPATH='/usr/src/share/mk' > > MAKE_VERSION='20170720' > > PATH='/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/ > src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/bin:/ > usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/ > sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin' > > SRCTOP='/usr/src' > > OBJTOP='/usr/src' > > .MAKE.MAKEFILES='/usr/src/share/mk/sys.mk /usr/src/share/mk/local.sys. > env.mk /usr/src/share/mk/src.sys.env.mk /etc/src-env.conf > /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.mkopt.mk /etc/make.conf /usr/src/share/mk/ > local.sys.mk /usr/src/share/mk/src.sys.mk Makefile /usr/src/share/mk/ > bsd.init.mk /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.opts.mk /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk > /usr/src/share/mk/local.init.mk /usr/src/share/mk/src.init.mk > /usr/src/stand/efi/../Makefile.inc /usr/src/stand/efi/../defs.mk > /usr/src/share/mk/src.opts.mk /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.own.mk > /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.compiler.mk /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.compiler.mk > /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.subdir.mk' > > .PATH='. /usr/src/stand/efi' > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > -- > Regards, > Bryan Drewery > > From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Wed Feb 21 06:03:03 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A751F07BC0 for ; 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charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 06:03:03 -0000 On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 6:08 PM, Eivind Nicolay Evensen < eivinde@terraplane.org> wrote: > However, since it was mentioned in a note starting with > "Add support for unicode collation" I most likely didn't even read it > since I'll never touch unicode. > If you ever use anything other than LANG=C, you *are* touching Unicode. -- brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associates allbery.b@gmail.com ballbery@sinenomine.net unix, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure, xmonad http://sinenomine.net From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Wed Feb 21 08:14:48 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5D8F11080 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 08:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: from bizet.nethelp.no (bizet.nethelp.no [IPv6:2001:8c0:9e04:500::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0152C6C6E4 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 08:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: from localhost (bizet.nethelp.no [IPv6:2001:8c0:9e04:500::1]) by bizet.nethelp.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C60E604A; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 09:14:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 09:14:39 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20180221.091439.74678264.sthaug@nethelp.no> To: allbery.b@gmail.com Cc: eivinde@terraplane.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Locale problem updating 10.3 to 11.1 From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: References: <20180219081129.GB62932@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> <20180220230822.GA72560@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 08:14:48 -0000 > > However, since it was mentioned in a note starting with > > "Add support for unicode collation" I most likely didn't even read = it > > since I'll never touch unicode. > > > = > If you ever use anything other than LANG=3DC, you *are* touching Unic= ode. % echo $LANG LANG: Undefined variable. % echo $LC_CTYPE nb_NO.ISO8859-1 Works for me. But I did use a while to figure out what had happened between 10.3 and 11.1, since my Norwegian =E6=F8=E5 suddenly stopped working (before cha= nging LC_CTYPE to nb_NO.ISO8859-1). Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Wed Feb 21 08:19:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD024F115D0 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 08:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allbery.b@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x241.google.com (mail-qk0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 525986C990 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 08:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allbery.b@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x241.google.com with SMTP id b130so928722qkg.9 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 00:19:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=/AaTWIy4cM2v2n/xH0Z1uDqHdDJrttGd3e2ItMRipRM=; b=RY5MfxWGQYT984ueweF2LFHdEHNBkeWPQgVF3Ask2Mt3rR5oG44xosBa73rqvOcQie x0dgCytD+MSimjkhkjtmFuEOzliaRc1EBgBQo/cy/Jq7N1iGxIHLDcN1kITfGgKg/IFE xDoYrkcj5oiuRQQ1t6ki49EHqiUxNPAV3IPTlpF4yVHbh5+QZTzsGRbYs8Fu5rWfpCPC G4sltEHy/n4NcDGfl5Vwswgo4fuuwTWq5zUyZMM+DGxCuswkRJszLpGxUlXx8MnZ5C8Z 5LAK0PQnwR5dNjDIqmAhpnpbEiwfRzG+ZciFfECX0Y1IX3pU/2VeVEiAAf8FZ0Tm4RHG QQQg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/AaTWIy4cM2v2n/xH0Z1uDqHdDJrttGd3e2ItMRipRM=; b=ax2QlhAoYN3H0D+C9jK4Iq615w+aMKFUflmdmA4mKlTuxnmuEQo0LxVv0I4Beysf+O ZCS9HYV1plRoBwZT1RFZArtSx0jxNzG8x8REZ1bUrMp8xKgX9nfyIUiJi2FCvkzNBgaU /KZeRfQ4zr/i7WLX6p3SX1yf19YUcvSJzN+YryPzOZLVbGql/kwvPzS1bTkMJNsel3nb QVeHIldCts/sM9wm3AwKUBcDbQNlHXyCbr6QzUiKnxYliKEc0VP1U0iNq/eLDHGR80LL asse05DrXztSslp4HgF9UxdVeRUyUzOtqDb6pesR7PqYYt7dzF7oSpecb71sfVkM0dcY 6W5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPAsOusagXnSFFLRgovopVrwpUojLRWspsM366Jg4nZE3Wh+flAG Ar/1QvqXAsdKDtgwl9V3dmsSIDjgNib1nPDs+I6CXg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x22475zIzb7x7/S8M7w5DtuLFDm1ZkzqJu8+s4XTEAUCHFoT6BwfURd7Difpuvy/iVK3dgYigcjcfNIiLdh0YiD0= X-Received: by 10.233.214.1 with SMTP id r1mr3989141qkk.81.1519201139857; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 00:18:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.36.24 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 00:18:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20180221.091439.74678264.sthaug@nethelp.no> References: <20180219081129.GB62932@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> <20180220230822.GA72560@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> <20180221.091439.74678264.sthaug@nethelp.no> From: Brandon Allbery Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 03:18:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Locale problem updating 10.3 to 11.1 To: sthaug@nethelp.no Cc: Eivind Nicolay Evensen , freebsd-stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 08:19:01 -0000 Sorry, it's a bit trickier than that. I said "touching", not "using" as in "UTF-8 locale". Any locale system needs a common base to build locale descriptions from. Unicode, or something functionally equivalent to it -- but given that we need to support Unicode locales anyway, it makes the most sense --- provides that common base. So anything that affects Unicode handling implicitly affects the entire locale system. LANG=3DC is the exception, because by the locale specificati= on it is the null mapping / what you would get if there were no locale system at all. On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 3:14 AM, wrote: > > > However, since it was mentioned in a note starting with > > > "Add support for unicode collation" I most likely didn't even read it > > > since I'll never touch unicode. > > > > > > > If you ever use anything other than LANG=3DC, you *are* touching Unicod= e. > > % echo $LANG > LANG: Undefined variable. > > % echo $LC_CTYPE > nb_NO.ISO8859-1 > > Works for me. > > But I did use a while to figure out what had happened between 10.3 and > 11.1, since my Norwegian =C3=A6=C3=B8=C3=A5 suddenly stopped working (bef= ore changing > LC_CTYPE to nb_NO.ISO8859-1). > > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no > --=20 brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associate= s allbery.b@gmail.com ballbery@sinenomine.ne= t unix, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure, xmonad http://sinenomine.ne= t From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Wed Feb 21 12:10:17 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485C0F24AD6 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 12:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from nmsh6.e.nsc.no (nmsh6.e.nsc.no [148.123.160.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D9075CAA for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 12:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from terraplane.org (ti0027a400-1948.bb.online.no [88.88.110.169]) by nmsh6.nsc.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1LC7GhV013278 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:07:20 +0100 Received: from terraplane.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terraplane.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w1LC8Bno075808; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:08:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: (from rumrunner@localhost) by terraplane.org (8.14.5/8.13.8/Submit) id w1LC8Ben075807; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:08:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rumrunner) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:08:11 +0100 From: Eivind Nicolay Evensen To: Brandon Allbery Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: Locale problem updating 10.3 to 11.1 Message-ID: <20180221120811.GA75251@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> References: <20180218230251.GA60727@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> <20180219081129.GB62932@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> <20180220230822.GA72560@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 12:10:17 -0000 On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 01:03:01AM -0500, Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 6:08 PM, Eivind Nicolay Evensen < > eivinde@terraplane.org> wrote: > > > However, since it was mentioned in a note starting with > > "Add support for unicode collation" I most likely didn't even read it > > since I'll never touch unicode. > > > > If you ever use anything other than LANG=C, you *are* touching Unicode. Well, I don't see multibyte characters with 8859-1, and multibyte is what I don't tolerate. I didn't even know that unicode could be single-byte character only sets. -- Eivind From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Wed Feb 21 12:16:51 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550E1F253DE for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 12:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allbery.b@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x22f.google.com (mail-qt0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DECDC76201 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 12:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allbery.b@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id g14so1592072qti.2 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 04:16:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hnIoW3idTSYPIY5jFP2J7+/JEGXduW3nw5tKfDK3vhQ=; b=RSZUSF8Hmv2HqqYlER3Sa6++4ZyEZXHW6WDvVwUjKCebNIgkPWtMM97cjtb1f29nWU uuUi2v32D1Fjp8OBYn3ma+Uy2LeUVKx355E6tbqUzfbOXRt+bG7fcgAOP2pODrQ1TXaA rwZLc0z+s3Puowkzrdz7uCnOwrUQOYwWu1r/JLrKXsACHTHK19bpZDP5cZoBb96UZmqD 8yehoFP1D9SFMCi+4srPCKeazsEzJSOLDQsqpUgK5MCajpLHNUbmG23Bmk0lGc0HfTbY ypRPPJ5TCKwqIUu7jN0j2DmSFdAWFPOiHP9SPzpi73Ty+SRvNr6JVPcoxwWCJKmUBu+d 95SA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hnIoW3idTSYPIY5jFP2J7+/JEGXduW3nw5tKfDK3vhQ=; b=Uwhishavyr0v6fgcGa+Cdk+QotlvPkRpldlmAVJhAy574YQEwsNcIaLSBsLuvJdY2Q OS+s6BHyWgizGwgP45VrFRIQdqRUiFWlbfc63GbTLRJK/IeH5WHYMY4WqG58PrCBBBFf 3585qUnRNVejG8zCiWGKjl3la4OWfMQhx9Ek23/SpNqtjapS0aOaVRY4ZmvIG17y+ft6 JQOpl+NrGnNZyNmsDIIL6jrVpXAQuzbT4fTP0oVe9dcFhY41Axtd6kuezKwZCPoXjfLl ln7DR5nbRlYBWD/0701hAdmdib7Lrq7esEIxlaGnaYzfZ2tAxwvShhvGm97cA5PtmTuT Vvrw== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPDVuHCfiJmGDlkAaKaiPuxPrQErSHLeq3ZI1vSsJ1q1H4Qm52Cn XqfBClleeoKxTtoybG7fZZfIlaYIELnZ3jgRTrMXdQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x226I3UeitZeR0J4jMIyjrOxtWypdlpYQ+ZzdbFW66hq7w0dJuxRo9GcGxz201XD3z7lf7vb/HhA2cp1qEzhRodE= X-Received: by 10.237.58.225 with SMTP id o88mr4758429qte.307.1519215410380; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 04:16:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.36.24 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 04:16:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20180221120811.GA75251@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> References: <20180218230251.GA60727@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> <20180219081129.GB62932@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> <20180220230822.GA72560@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> <20180221120811.GA75251@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> From: Brandon Allbery Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 07:16:49 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Locale problem updating 10.3 to 11.1 To: Eivind Nicolay Evensen Cc: freebsd-stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 12:16:51 -0000 A locale mapping is basically a lookup table (with complications for things like =C3=9F). A single-byte lookup table will be 256 entries, each holding = one or more (because of combining characters) Unicode codepoints representing the mapping from the locale character set to the underlying common character set (Unicode). (There may also be a reverse lookup table for mapping Unicode codepoints to locale codepoints.) Without this, every program would have to deal directly with every possible character set. With it, code can use Unicode internally and let the locale system map to what to display, or in the other direction from what it has read to the common representation. (Complications include things like: depending on encoding/locale details, German lowercase =C3=9F will uppercase to either SS or =E1=BA=9E. And that'= s one of the simpler ones; for some locales, things can get *really* weird. Not to mention fun stuff like Arabic having 4 representations of every character: initial, medial, final, standalone.) Locale handling is seriously *nasty*. Unicode is also pretty nasty... but it mostly manages the superset of individual locale nastinesses in about as logical a way as possible given that locales are fundamentally illogical: very few of them were designed, most grew organically and without regard for rules or logic. (Esperanto locales being an exception... but even Esperanto has developed some organic extensions with actual usage. It's how humans work.) On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Eivind Nicolay Evensen < eivinde@terraplane.org> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 01:03:01AM -0500, Brandon Allbery wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 6:08 PM, Eivind Nicolay Evensen < > > eivinde@terraplane.org> wrote: > > > > > However, since it was mentioned in a note starting with > > > "Add support for unicode collation" I most likely didn't even read it > > > since I'll never touch unicode. > > > > > > > If you ever use anything other than LANG=3DC, you *are* touching Unicod= e. > > Well, I don't see multibyte characters with 8859-1, and > multibyte is what I don't tolerate. I didn't even know > that unicode could be single-byte character only sets. > > > > > -- > Eivind > --=20 brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine associate= s allbery.b@gmail.com ballbery@sinenomine.ne= t unix, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure, xmonad http://sinenomine.ne= t From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Wed Feb 21 12:30:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CE8F265AB for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 12:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from nmsh5.e.nsc.no (nmsh5.e.nsc.no [148.123.160.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC98476B60 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 12:30:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: from terraplane.org (ti0027a400-1948.bb.online.no [88.88.110.169]) by nmsh5.nsc.no (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1LCUIpB034094 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:30:22 +0100 Received: from terraplane.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terraplane.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w1LCVD19075961; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:31:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rumrunner@terraplane.org) Received: (from rumrunner@localhost) by terraplane.org (8.14.5/8.13.8/Submit) id w1LCVDJ7075960; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:31:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rumrunner) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:31:13 +0100 From: Eivind Nicolay Evensen To: Brandon Allbery Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: Locale problem updating 10.3 to 11.1 Message-ID: <20180221123112.GB75251@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> References: <20180218230251.GA60727@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> <20180219081129.GB62932@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> <20180220230822.GA72560@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> <20180221120811.GA75251@klump.hjerdalen.lokalnett> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 12:30:24 -0000 On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 07:16:49AM -0500, Brandon Allbery wrote: > A locale mapping is basically a lookup table (with complications for things > like ß). A single-byte lookup table will be 256 entries, each holding one > or more (because of combining characters) Unicode codepoints representing > the mapping from the locale character set to the underlying common > character set (Unicode). (There may also be a reverse lookup table for > mapping Unicode codepoints to locale codepoints.) That's fine, it doesn't make my life miserable such as it would when directly using multibyte character sets, as long as it doesn't negatively affect performance. > Without this, every program would have to deal directly with every possible > character set. Or only handle what one cares about. > (Complications include things like: depending on encoding/locale details, > German lowercase ß will uppercase to either SS or ???. While German is not my main language, I've never seen a situation where an uppcase variant of ß would make sense, though I understand the example. > And that's one of the > simpler ones; for some locales, things can get *really* weird. Not to > mention fun stuff like Arabic having 4 representations of every character: > initial, medial, final, standalone.) Complications I don't want or need, nicely points out what I dislike about unicode, although I can understand some os wanting to support it, to be useful in more situations. -- Eivind From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Wed Feb 21 20:04:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEC2F25AFC for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 20:04:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:80:80::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD6446FDE3; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 20:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (lava.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:5::11]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1LK4NZf049602 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Feb 2018 15:04:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.43.26] (saphire3.sentex.net [192.168.43.26]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w1LK4Kjj095898; Wed, 21 Feb 2018 15:04:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List From: Mike Tancsa Subject: new Ryzen lockup issue ? Organization: Sentex Communications Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 15:04:21 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 20:04:24 -0000 Not sure if I have found another issue specific to Ryzen, or a bug that manifests itself on Ryzen systems easier. I installed the latest virtualbox from the ports and was doing some network performance tests between a vm and the hypervisor using iperf3. The guest is just a RELENG11 image and the network is an em nic bridged to epair1b Then running in a loop #!/bin/sh while true do iperf3 -t 20 -R -c 192.168.19.18 iperf3 -t 20 -c 192.168.19.18 sleep 20 done where 192.168.17.19 is the guest image, the box locks up solid after 10min to 30min of letting the script run. By lockup I mean the keyboard is not responsive or anything. I can do this on two separate physical machines (both ASUS MBs). # ifconfig epair1a epair1a: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 description: -------FreeBSD11-generic-VM options=8 ether 02:ff:20:00:06:0a hwaddr 02:ff:20:00:06:0a inet 192.168.19.17 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.19.255 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet 10Gbase-T (10Gbase-T ) status: active groups: epair # ifconfig epair1b epair1b: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8 ether 02:00:60:00:07:0b hwaddr 02:00:60:00:07:0b nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet 10Gbase-T (10Gbase-T ) status: active groups: epair Any idea how to debug this to see if this is a hardware issue vs the kernel deadlocking ? If I need to upgrade it to HEAD I can do so if need be, but it would be nice to try and narrow it down first to a hardware issue (its 2 different boxes) or software issue. ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 x203 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Thu Feb 22 20:42:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3E6F292C7 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 20:41:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:80:80::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9345978782 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 20:41:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (lava.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:5::11]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1MKfw4S094979 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 15:41:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.43.26] (saphire3.sentex.net [192.168.43.26]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w1MKfukH002314 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2018 15:41:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Subject: Re: new Ryzen lockup issue ? From: Mike Tancsa To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List References: Organization: Sentex Communications Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 15:41:57 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 20:42:00 -0000 On 2/21/2018 3:04 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > Not sure if I have found another issue specific to Ryzen, or a bug that > manifests itself on Ryzen systems easier. I installed the latest > virtualbox from the ports and was doing some network performance tests > between a vm and the hypervisor using iperf3. The guest is just a > RELENG11 image and the network is an em nic bridged to epair1b This looks possibly related to VirtualBox. Doing the same tests and more using bhyve, I dont get any lockup. Not to mention, network IO is MUCH faster. ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 x203 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Feb 23 15:14:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97136F29ACA for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:80:80::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4549485909 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (lava.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:5::11]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1NFEbo0062798 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 10:14:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.43.26] (saphire3.sentex.net [192.168.43.26]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w1NFEZCq006148 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 10:14:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Subject: Re: new Ryzen lockup issue ? From: Mike Tancsa To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List References: Organization: Sentex Communications Message-ID: <92a60e14-f532-2647-d45d-b500fc59ba88@sentex.net> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 10:14:36 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:14:38 -0000 On 2/22/2018 3:41 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 2/21/2018 3:04 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: >> Not sure if I have found another issue specific to Ryzen, or a bug that >> manifests itself on Ryzen systems easier. I installed the latest >> virtualbox from the ports and was doing some network performance tests >> between a vm and the hypervisor using iperf3. The guest is just a >> RELENG11 image and the network is an em nic bridged to epair1b > > This looks possibly related to VirtualBox. Doing the same tests and more > using bhyve, I dont get any lockup. Not to mention, network IO is MUCH > faster. Actually, it just took a little bit longer to lock up the box with bhyve on RELENG_11 as the hypervisor. Would be great if anyone can confirm this locks up their Ryzen boxes ? I tried 2 different boxes to eliminate a hardware issue. Also tried a similar test on Ubuntu and I can spin up 4 instances and run without lockups. Just grab a copy of https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/VM-IMAGES/11.1-RELEASE/amd64/Latest/FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-amd64.raw.xz and make 2 copies. tmp.raw and tmp2.raw kldload vmm ifconfig tap0 create ifconfig tap1 create ifconfig tap1 up ifconfig tap0 up ifconfig bridge0 create addm tap0 addm tap1 ifconfig bridge0 192.168.99.1/24 screen -d -m sh /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh -c 4 -m 6144M -t tap0 -d tmp.raw BSD11a screen -d -m sh /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh -c 4 -m 6144M -t tap1 -d tmp2.raw BSD11b Install netperf on the 2 vms and give the vtnet interface 192.168.99.2/24 and 192.168.99.3/24 In both VMs pkg install iperf3 and start it up as iperf -s In the hypervisor, iperf -t 10000 -R -c 192.168.99.2 iperf -t 10000 -c 192.168.99.3 the box locks up solid after 5-20 min. Same hardware with Ubuntu and virtual box and 4 instances work fine, no lockups after a day so not sure whats up but it seems to be something with the Ryzen CPU running as a hypervisor or with some type of load :( Prior to lockup I had a stream of netstat -m writing to a file every 5 seconds. The last entry was below. It doesnt seem to be leak. Thu Feb 22 17:14:28 EST 2018 8694/10281/18975 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) 8225/5211/13436/2038424 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 8225/5184 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) 461/3747/4208/1019211 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/301988 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 0/0/0/169868 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) 20467K/27980K/48447K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for mbufs delayed (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters delayed (4k/9k/16k) 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) 0 sendfile syscalls 0 sendfile syscalls completed without I/O request 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile 0 pages read by sendfile as part of a request 0 pages were valid at time of a sendfile request 0 pages were requested for read ahead by applications 0 pages were read ahead by sendfile 0 times sendfile encountered an already busy page 0 requests for sfbufs denied 0 requests for sfbufs delayed ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 x203 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Feb 23 17:35:53 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1664F0AB6D for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 17:35:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nimrod@nimrod.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail-yw0-x22a.google.com (mail-yw0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6996C6C67C for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 17:35:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nimrod@nimrod.is-a-geek.net) Received: by mail-yw0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id y186so3041713ywf.7 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 09:35:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nimrod-is-a-geek-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=SehdZA9SboFvm/j9z65FBIzN6NXEsi+RMNPjjC3A4cE=; b=m0gPT4Wr+5VZ/2FWcCve0l6bZwH1e75YPOHvXbjEZoBqKlDQZ1ob4AAkSTj+t7aTB8 veJgwa4WgHjSefJbDNS0ftmQJ9WlvR1zJUMbpEack5eNllY3TLmOCNlKWE9TEMTCDsg8 DKQD8Jx2XX5HiO7kKhEZaQ9+X+iZniY/ZrjcpSZP3zyaYo2STW3T3fnKEvz8gMJ1IpEX zgoK0bhmMLK69LfDybyy+43OJZSd+tweYo0fHtJYXJt3bR5m9C3jZ02GIwY2MCpDnDtW Wb9lKuI/80K52ZG9x1g7HRAwZCiDYc+zgpKbR/u8P/0c3KyGeroP8bcNRWOWTMPJOPWj KNoQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=SehdZA9SboFvm/j9z65FBIzN6NXEsi+RMNPjjC3A4cE=; b=npB951cKIdxdqvlQxN0LVEbPt/Q1PZas/k0GHwrYCiCTmQM5qJzJP4k3JukFvGf0Sx H7USbH+Qe+vno/4UW8L/HGWjYMdWhAPiQqTDNFkiyWSbLKVIpcmqSwReZalNyVdAP9vG xMaK0u4OaCFu9AP5pJE23Uf6rKR3TnAWuKQBX46Ofba5hNBa4cQ85EykLsGQ/OZKG7J4 xkYKhg3Of+uXtR9jIB8AdTcNHqMcFmHEwUMv8E6hTNF47zHbQsYQWIta3NtvstYP6IhO zvoK5AczO3r8DtHh+mDqs5jC8r20gzhuI3WhKJw/gDYrALnVYAO9ADMUPlChRdsk5LG4 m8tg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=SehdZA9SboFvm/j9z65FBIzN6NXEsi+RMNPjjC3A4cE=; b=X8UMhonINt9H1WW5uvlbKlvL5HsN7/upxrDborXei3ysUS1hdx1QQESAloy9Z/9nas 4W1qY/f4zlQxQNRQiv94fYiq24Yrc0Tm1wV0lmkouCqkmgFK5PbFhi4ETbcdRl4y0K2I HStBoczBQHTw19wSY74KDj1i0Rzuwsr2M9+qAHyyS9EicbSyHnoL3nYZUPnkcthduFk5 A6LuVChESK1F6rGg+1iuhcWH/P7Z3WGrT0Wyr8bRoORpFpHt/Dht8hxeO+vlEdCSBUv5 TtXPqrHZSiFbQIov+fyCZeOgw8Jui3AjYJ4A3MoqBWpwihNmuKVUPJoJNMa6qsmaQQBE u6tA== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPDOsLPsZUjNrjPPns1odEdSS2Wa7naGE68GgN54g6+p3kPiyDkC Y+GZjZJHl1213jCLgJcl91WzRL/a68uWjtZaSknFxg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x224eCjuwmw6nGUIUZBgRHXCSfu9giOHHe4uPXN5xETz65j0AcwPywwZycY6cv2bE5S1yYhlHQmoNUcWKKqnR34E= X-Received: by 10.129.148.196 with SMTP id l187mr1577519ywg.453.1519407351396; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 09:35:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: nimrod@nimrod.is-a-geek.net Received: by 10.129.102.69 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 09:35:50 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [108.31.4.177] In-Reply-To: <92a60e14-f532-2647-d45d-b500fc59ba88@sentex.net> References: <92a60e14-f532-2647-d45d-b500fc59ba88@sentex.net> From: Nimrod Levy Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 12:35:50 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: BiqMEF1hE4BI-etlM857T85U3kM Message-ID: Subject: Re: new Ryzen lockup issue ? To: Mike Tancsa Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 17:35:53 -0000 Now that is a fascinating data point. My machine that I've been having issues with has been running a bhyve vm from the beginning. I never made the connection. I'll try throwing some network traffic at the VM and see if I can make it lock up. On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 2/22/2018 3:41 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > On 2/21/2018 3:04 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > >> Not sure if I have found another issue specific to Ryzen, or a bug that > >> manifests itself on Ryzen systems easier. I installed the latest > >> virtualbox from the ports and was doing some network performance tests > >> between a vm and the hypervisor using iperf3. The guest is just a > >> RELENG11 image and the network is an em nic bridged to epair1b > > > > This looks possibly related to VirtualBox. Doing the same tests and more > > using bhyve, I dont get any lockup. Not to mention, network IO is MUCH > > faster. > > > Actually, it just took a little bit longer to lock up the box with bhyve > on RELENG_11 as the hypervisor. Would be great if anyone can confirm > this locks up their Ryzen boxes ? I tried 2 different boxes to eliminate > a hardware issue. Also tried a similar test on Ubuntu and I can spin up > 4 instances and run without lockups. > > Just grab a copy of > > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/VM-IMAGES/11.1- > RELEASE/amd64/Latest/FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-amd64.raw.xz > > and make 2 copies. tmp.raw and tmp2.raw > > > kldload vmm > ifconfig tap0 create > ifconfig tap1 create > ifconfig tap1 up > ifconfig tap0 up > ifconfig bridge0 create addm tap0 addm tap1 > ifconfig bridge0 192.168.99.1/24 > > screen -d -m sh /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh -c 4 -m 6144M -t tap0 > -d tmp.raw BSD11a > screen -d -m sh /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh -c 4 -m 6144M -t tap1 > -d tmp2.raw BSD11b > > Install netperf on the 2 vms and give the vtnet interface > 192.168.99.2/24 and 192.168.99.3/24 > > In both VMs pkg install iperf3 and start it up as > iperf -s > > In the hypervisor, > iperf -t 10000 -R -c 192.168.99.2 > iperf -t 10000 -c 192.168.99.3 > > > the box locks up solid after 5-20 min. Same hardware with Ubuntu and > virtual box and 4 instances work fine, no lockups after a day so not > sure whats up but it seems to be something with the Ryzen CPU running as > a hypervisor or with some type of load :( > > Prior to lockup I had a stream of netstat -m writing to a file every 5 > seconds. The last entry was below. It doesnt seem to be leak. > > Thu Feb 22 17:14:28 EST 2018 > 8694/10281/18975 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) > 8225/5211/13436/2038424 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 8225/5184 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache) > 461/3747/4208/1019211 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use > (current/cache/total/max) > 0/0/0/301988 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 0/0/0/169868 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 20467K/27980K/48447K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) > 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) > 0/0/0 requests for mbufs delayed (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) > 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters delayed (4k/9k/16k) > 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) > 0 sendfile syscalls > 0 sendfile syscalls completed without I/O request > 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile > 0 pages read by sendfile as part of a request > 0 pages were valid at time of a sendfile request > 0 pages were requested for read ahead by applications > 0 pages were read ahead by sendfile > 0 times sendfile encountered an already busy page > 0 requests for sfbufs denied > 0 requests for sfbufs delayed > > > > ---Mike > > > > > -- > ------------------- > Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 x203 > Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net > Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Feb 23 20:22:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6197CF1AA0F for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 20:22:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:80:80::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0ED1B76B00; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 20:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (lava.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:5::11]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1NKMXOD023384 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:22:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.43.26] (saphire3.sentex.ca [192.168.43.26]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w1NKMUVd010198; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:22:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Subject: Ryzen lockup on bhyve was (Re: new Ryzen lockup issue ?) To: Nimrod Levy Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List References: <92a60e14-f532-2647-d45d-b500fc59ba88@sentex.net> From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications Message-ID: <425be16f-9fdc-9ed6-72b1-02e28bfd130f@sentex.net> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:22:31 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 20:22:34 -0000 Actually I can confirm the same sort of hard lockup happens on my Epyc board with RELENG11. It also happens in current. I will file a PR and post on freebsd-current in case someone has any suggestions on how to try and figure out whats going on. I upgraded the box to 12.0-CURRENT #0 r329866 in order to see if it could avoid the lockup, but same deal. The vmm driver does seem different when loaded, but the same lock up under load CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Six-Core Processor (3593.35-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin="AuthenticAMD" Id=0x800f11 Family=0x17 Model=0x1 Stepping=1 Features=0x178bfbff Features2=0x7ed8320b AMD Features=0x2e500800 AMD Features2=0x35c233ff Structured Extended Features=0x209c01a9 XSAVE Features=0xf AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID EBX=0x7 SVM: NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768 TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics AMD-Vi: IVRS Info VAsize = 64 PAsize = 48 GVAsize = 2 flags:0 driver bug: Unable to set devclass (class: ppc devname: (unknown)) ivhd0: on acpi0 ivhd0: Flag:b0 ivhd0: Features(type:0x11) MsiNumPPR = 0 PNBanks= 2 PNCounters= 0 ivhd0: Extended features[31:0]:22294ada HATS = 0x2 GATS = 0x0 GLXSup = 0x1 SmiFSup = 0x1 SmiFRC = 0x2 GAMSup = 0x1 DualPortLogSup = 0x2 DualEventLogSup = 0x2 ivhd0: Extended features[62:32]:f77ef Max PASID: 0x2f DevTblSegSup = 0x3 MarcSup = 0x1 ivhd0: supported paging level:7, will use only: 4 ivhd0: device range: 0x0 - 0xffff ivhd0: PCI cap 0x190b640f@0x40 feature:19 On 2/23/2018 12:35 PM, Nimrod Levy wrote: > Now that is a fascinating data point. My machine that I've been having > issues with has been running a bhyve vm from the beginning.  I never > made the connection. I'll try throwing some network traffic at the VM > and see if I can make it lock up. > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Mike Tancsa > wrote: > > On 2/22/2018 3:41 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > On 2/21/2018 3:04 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > >> Not sure if I have found another issue specific to Ryzen, or a bug that > >> manifests itself on Ryzen systems easier.  I installed the latest > >> virtualbox from the ports and was doing some network performance tests > >> between a vm and the hypervisor using iperf3.  The guest is just a > >> RELENG11 image and the network is an em nic bridged to epair1b > > > > This looks possibly related to VirtualBox. Doing the same tests and more > > using bhyve, I dont get any lockup.  Not to mention, network IO is MUCH > > faster. > > > Actually, it just took a little bit longer to lock up the box with bhyve > on RELENG_11 as the hypervisor.   Would be great if anyone can confirm > this locks up their Ryzen boxes ? I tried 2 different boxes to eliminate > a hardware issue.  Also tried a similar test on Ubuntu and I can spin up > 4 instances and run without lockups. > > Just grab a copy of > > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/VM-IMAGES/11.1-RELEASE/amd64/Latest/FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-amd64.raw.xz > > > and make 2 copies. tmp.raw and tmp2.raw > > > kldload vmm > ifconfig tap0 create > ifconfig tap1 create > ifconfig tap1 up > ifconfig tap0 up > ifconfig bridge0 create addm tap0 addm tap1 > ifconfig bridge0 192.168.99.1/24 > > screen -d -m sh /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh -c 4 -m 6144M -t tap0 > -d tmp.raw BSD11a > screen -d -m sh /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh -c 4 -m 6144M -t tap1 > -d tmp2.raw BSD11b > > Install netperf on the 2 vms and give the vtnet interface > 192.168.99.2/24 and 192.168.99.3/24 > > > In both VMs pkg install iperf3 and start it up as > iperf -s > > In the hypervisor, > iperf -t 10000 -R -c 192.168.99.2 > iperf -t 10000 -c 192.168.99.3 > > > the box locks up solid after 5-20 min.  Same hardware with Ubuntu and > virtual box and 4 instances work fine, no lockups after a day so not > sure whats up but it seems to be something with the Ryzen CPU running as > a hypervisor or with some type of load :( > > Prior to lockup I had a stream of netstat -m writing to a file every 5 > seconds. The last entry was below. It doesnt seem to be leak. > > Thu Feb 22 17:14:28 EST 2018 > 8694/10281/18975 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) > 8225/5211/13436/2038424 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 8225/5184 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use > (current/cache) > 461/3747/4208/1019211 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use > (current/cache/total/max) > 0/0/0/301988 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 0/0/0/169868 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > 20467K/27980K/48447K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) > 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) > 0/0/0 requests for mbufs delayed (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) > 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters delayed (4k/9k/16k) > 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) > 0 sendfile syscalls > 0 sendfile syscalls completed without I/O request > 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile > 0 pages read by sendfile as part of a request > 0 pages were valid at time of a sendfile request > 0 pages were requested for read ahead by applications > 0 pages were read ahead by sendfile > 0 times sendfile encountered an already busy page > 0 requests for sfbufs denied > 0 requests for sfbufs delayed > > > >         ---Mike > > > > > -- > ------------------- > Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 x203 > > Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net > Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net > > Cambridge, Ontario Canada > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > > -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 x203 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Feb 23 20:33:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B517F1BB8A for ; 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Fri, 23 Feb 2018 12:33:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: nimrod@nimrod.is-a-geek.net Received: by 10.129.102.69 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 12:33:32 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [108.31.4.177] In-Reply-To: <425be16f-9fdc-9ed6-72b1-02e28bfd130f@sentex.net> References: <92a60e14-f532-2647-d45d-b500fc59ba88@sentex.net> <425be16f-9fdc-9ed6-72b1-02e28bfd130f@sentex.net> From: Nimrod Levy Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:33:32 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: uiR8c541ATdotzausm4FgZtD5mg Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ryzen lockup on bhyve was (Re: new Ryzen lockup issue ?) To: Mike Tancsa Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 20:33:34 -0000 After a couple of hours of running the iperf commands you were testing with, I'm unable to duplicate this so far. I'm running with FreeBSD stable from 17-Feb with the commits noted in https://reviews.freebsd.org/D14347 pulled in. I've also lowered the memory clock and disabled c-states in the bios. The bhyve VM is running CentOS. The system has been up for over 6 days and has been running the iperf3 loop for over 2 hours. The hardware is an Asus prime B350-Plus with a Ryzen 5 1600 and 32G of RAM. -- Nimrod On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > Actually I can confirm the same sort of hard lockup happens on my Epyc > board with RELENG11. It also happens in current. I will file a PR and > post on freebsd-current in case someone has any suggestions on how to > try and figure out whats going on. > > I upgraded the box to > 12.0-CURRENT #0 r329866 > in order to see if it could avoid the lockup, but same deal. The vmm > driver does seem different when loaded, but the same lock up under load > > CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Six-Core Processor (3593.35-MHz > K8-class CPU) > Origin="AuthenticAMD" Id=0x800f11 Family=0x17 Model=0x1 Stepping=1 > > Features=0x178bfbff SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT> > > Features2=0x7ed8320b 1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POPCNT,AESNI,XSAVE,OSXSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND> > AMD Features=0x2e500800 > AMD > Features2=0x35c233ff Prefetch,OSVW,SKINIT,WDT,TCE,Topology,PCXC,PNXC,DBE,PL2I,MWAITX> > Structured Extended > Features=0x209c01a9 SMAP,CLFLUSHOPT,SHA> > XSAVE Features=0xf > AMD Extended Feature Extensions ID EBX=0x7 > SVM: NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768 > TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics > > > AMD-Vi: IVRS Info VAsize = 64 PAsize = 48 GVAsize = 2 flags:0 > driver bug: Unable to set devclass (class: ppc devname: (unknown)) > ivhd0: on acpi0 > ivhd0: Flag:b0 > ivhd0: Features(type:0x11) MsiNumPPR = 0 PNBanks= 2 PNCounters= 0 > ivhd0: Extended features[31:0]:22294ada HATS = > 0x2 GATS = 0x0 GLXSup = 0x1 SmiFSup = 0x1 SmiFRC = 0x2 GAMSup = 0x1 > DualPortLogSup = 0x2 DualEventLogSup = 0x2 > ivhd0: Extended features[62:32]:f77ef Max PASID: 0x2f > DevTblSegSup = 0x3 MarcSup = 0x1 > ivhd0: supported paging level:7, will use only: 4 > ivhd0: device range: 0x0 - 0xffff > ivhd0: PCI cap 0x190b640f@0x40 feature:19 > > > > On 2/23/2018 12:35 PM, Nimrod Levy wrote: > > Now that is a fascinating data point. My machine that I've been having > > issues with has been running a bhyve vm from the beginning. I never > > made the connection. I'll try throwing some network traffic at the VM > > and see if I can make it lock up. > > > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Mike Tancsa > > wrote: > > > > On 2/22/2018 3:41 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > On 2/21/2018 3:04 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > >> Not sure if I have found another issue specific to Ryzen, or a > bug that > > >> manifests itself on Ryzen systems easier. I installed the latest > > >> virtualbox from the ports and was doing some network performance > tests > > >> between a vm and the hypervisor using iperf3. The guest is just a > > >> RELENG11 image and the network is an em nic bridged to epair1b > > > > > > This looks possibly related to VirtualBox. Doing the same tests > and more > > > using bhyve, I dont get any lockup. Not to mention, network IO is > MUCH > > > faster. > > > > > > Actually, it just took a little bit longer to lock up the box with > bhyve > > on RELENG_11 as the hypervisor. Would be great if anyone can > confirm > > this locks up their Ryzen boxes ? I tried 2 different boxes to > eliminate > > a hardware issue. Also tried a similar test on Ubuntu and I can > spin up > > 4 instances and run without lockups. > > > > Just grab a copy of > > > > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/VM-IMAGES/11.1-RE > LEASE/amd64/Latest/FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-amd64.raw.xz > > 1-RELEASE/amd64/Latest/FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-amd64.raw.xz> > > > > and make 2 copies. tmp.raw and tmp2.raw > > > > > > kldload vmm > > ifconfig tap0 create > > ifconfig tap1 create > > ifconfig tap1 up > > ifconfig tap0 up > > ifconfig bridge0 create addm tap0 addm tap1 > > ifconfig bridge0 192.168.99.1/24 > > > > screen -d -m sh /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh -c 4 -m 6144M -t > tap0 > > -d tmp.raw BSD11a > > screen -d -m sh /usr/share/examples/bhyve/vmrun.sh -c 4 -m 6144M -t > tap1 > > -d tmp2.raw BSD11b > > > > Install netperf on the 2 vms and give the vtnet interface > > 192.168.99.2/24 and 192.168.99.3/24 > > > > > > In both VMs pkg install iperf3 and start it up as > > iperf -s > > > > In the hypervisor, > > iperf -t 10000 -R -c 192.168.99.2 > > iperf -t 10000 -c 192.168.99.3 > > > > > > the box locks up solid after 5-20 min. Same hardware with Ubuntu and > > virtual box and 4 instances work fine, no lockups after a day so not > > sure whats up but it seems to be something with the Ryzen CPU > running as > > a hypervisor or with some type of load :( > > > > Prior to lockup I had a stream of netstat -m writing to a file every > 5 > > seconds. The last entry was below. It doesnt seem to be leak. > > > > Thu Feb 22 17:14:28 EST 2018 > > 8694/10281/18975 mbufs in use (current/cache/total) > > 8225/5211/13436/2038424 mbuf clusters in use > (current/cache/total/max) > > 8225/5184 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use > > (current/cache) > > 461/3747/4208/1019211 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use > > (current/cache/total/max) > > 0/0/0/301988 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > > 0/0/0/169868 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max) > > 20467K/27980K/48447K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total) > > 0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) > > 0/0/0 requests for mbufs delayed (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters) > > 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters delayed (4k/9k/16k) > > 0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k) > > 0 sendfile syscalls > > 0 sendfile syscalls completed without I/O request > > 0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile > > 0 pages read by sendfile as part of a request > > 0 pages were valid at time of a sendfile request > > 0 pages were requested for read ahead by applications > > 0 pages were read ahead by sendfile > > 0 times sendfile encountered an already busy page > > 0 requests for sfbufs denied > > 0 requests for sfbufs delayed > > > > > > > > ---Mike > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------------- > > Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 x203 <(519)%20651-3400> > > > > Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net > > Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net > > > > Cambridge, Ontario Canada > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > > " > > > > > > > -- > ------------------- > Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 x203 > Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net > Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada > From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Feb 23 20:44:37 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7F8F1C997 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 20:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:80:80::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0B3477B9B for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 20:44:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (lava.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:5::11]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w1NKiaj6027368 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:44:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.43.26] (saphire3.sentex.net [192.168.43.26]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w1NKiXkJ010235; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:44:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Subject: Re: Ryzen lockup on bhyve was (Re: new Ryzen lockup issue ?) To: Nimrod Levy Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List References: <92a60e14-f532-2647-d45d-b500fc59ba88@sentex.net> <425be16f-9fdc-9ed6-72b1-02e28bfd130f@sentex.net> From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications Message-ID: <4968b74b-47d1-4742-9e59-a26572f8276c@sentex.net> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:44:34 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.78 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 20:44:37 -0000 On 2/23/2018 3:33 PM, Nimrod Levy wrote: > After a couple of hours of running the iperf commands you were testing > with, I'm unable to duplicate this so far. > > I'm running with FreeBSD stable from 17-Feb with the commits noted > in https://reviews.freebsd.org/D14347 >  pulled in. > > I've also lowered the memory clock and disabled c-states in the bios. > > The bhyve VM is running CentOS. > > The system has been up for over 6 days and has been running the iperf3 > loop for over 2 hours. > > The hardware is an Asus prime B350-Plus with a Ryzen 5 1600 and 32G of RAM. Hmmm, Interesting. Thank you for testing. I have a slightly different chipset (X370-PRO). Wouldnt think that would make a difference. And considering the Epyc also crashes-- although that takes a LOT longer, I am not sure whats going on. There is yet another BIOS update for this board. So trying with that. The vmm driver does report things a little different, so we will see ivhd0: on acpi0 ivhd0: Flag:b0 ivhd0: Features(type:0x11) MsiNumPPR = 0 PNBanks= 2 PNCounters= 0 ivhd0: Extended features[31:0]:22294ada HATS = 0x2 GATS = 0x0 GLXSup = 0x1 SmiFSup = 0x1 SmiFRC = 0x2 GAMSup = 0x1 DualPortLogSup = 0x2 DualEventLogSup = 0x2 ivhd0: Extended features[62:32]:f77ef Max PASID: 0x2f DevTblSegSup = 0x3 MarcSup = 0x1 ivhd0: supported paging level:7, will use only: 4 ivhd0: device range: 0x0 - 0xffff ivhd0: PCI cap 0x190b640f@0x40 feature:19 The load also matters. Try with 2 FreeBSD instances. I am not able to quickly crash with just one. ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 x203 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Feb 23 21:00:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4687CF1F202 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 21:00:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nimrod@nimrod.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail-yb0-x22e.google.com (mail-yb0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE370785EC for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 21:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nimrod@nimrod.is-a-geek.net) Received: by mail-yb0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id v135-v6so3358236ybe.2 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 13:00:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nimrod-is-a-geek-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=UsYv/MjTzyf/sR+OJIncwMOafHxZuOEGf4OmLxgJSiw=; b=x4ulABtrFz3XX2BlpV7AXufnvgiL1gTX05Rb1d4V5k6l+NUfOYxmlF/WRb3/oc8trQ Q+nC10CZRe6dRiVcfavgfyVwTL1sh8ttI6/19wLrFmctMK3vldNkzeT4Rd6nl5OZNWmc 4bfYGr2EywpWdzXIOrPF9JbF0KJ1TjRYTLGHz7klmDceqwsR37GwvZA6eAKrKVcIyMqI AYLyA6+ONZrn8BrgknIGw0+v/E9eaYYNHxhzSZd60revEH2AlRSRvl7sVFx28/o5VXUt s3WW7vbH5qpeAqx+pLlEt40ouFeBJRtSmJooIBFETTXfIxX1Rlfjec2uuh1M/DbSreP4 Bwvw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=UsYv/MjTzyf/sR+OJIncwMOafHxZuOEGf4OmLxgJSiw=; b=gN6ipAHqUenkjjhPPecL80aFb7RVI+regx4IwFL7gHAJbAS+9HzhXZh0l/Kb944J74 6RJZEm1KEeYYtpuoU79vWez5MorRcI8MNX9jTuOkkFpZk1Bptm1UC8ODEqa41wZ4R2V8 WxpnpAsau2CElyLJ42iR9iby/LitZ0lSyvhNzcWEOlShKYG9MTqzZnmsrG6OPVeGacmu ntrLbX/LdlyQc5Ln9PxnkQ5sbsikeBdAwrxASFEaRzopprU8aGBl3kmZPuwMFUW7RF6x 1eyHDEayHOUngwQNu3TvqsQYru8aX32RL/uA4JJVpdx/MBVbNZCifYhoARjkVgehG4Gm 4ZaQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=UsYv/MjTzyf/sR+OJIncwMOafHxZuOEGf4OmLxgJSiw=; b=YxpyY2hlQoCI+LeM1Z/RoLuz8tADCh7wL+Ypt2LhW84P4bjKunz7cbrIzmHxAPrrkC XArIB3eZvsgAsxo/TmIlfgpgzBx1/yxfIXVPXVKCe29KRqkNcMGxNx6wvjrSt3s9Dfgy L05YyPx4JTnq1ZfS1SGmwnEDaoAKR181AjTdRpFmwZWocyoKvEtQGCNi1wYYoPZWl+D5 UZJP9oXBtRXt0CtsWRaw0u5qpiHKuwFRPyd5Q3te5SEETA+Cd0Q8KMz10EwWB6GGvXbu mqANo45VZcTHmZ45OCu6quv68gqSc6j5rV9ymerXwCqcLM1zjbI1A0tp/vtz3au/LMrj HoDQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPB02Q6yLIhshL0oloBSeEmh882SX/PuX5EC51JDht8J8K0eU87g WXqFEVb0Hl2ltQJpro2dIvPdkN5T6wMUKmv8D3C312HV X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELsnPQTJDF+3HlyVZjTcnN6IXP4LSPJma3yLDcmlB5VbkcsFjo7WYPpbc3ae7IBgr03hQu2SKxmo2RTMfTmrIGw= X-Received: by 2002:a25:3249:: with SMTP id y70-v6mr1625302yby.431.1519419618956; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 13:00:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: nimrod@nimrod.is-a-geek.net Received: by 10.129.102.69 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Feb 2018 13:00:18 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [108.31.4.177] In-Reply-To: <4968b74b-47d1-4742-9e59-a26572f8276c@sentex.net> References: <92a60e14-f532-2647-d45d-b500fc59ba88@sentex.net> <425be16f-9fdc-9ed6-72b1-02e28bfd130f@sentex.net> <4968b74b-47d1-4742-9e59-a26572f8276c@sentex.net> From: Nimrod Levy Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 16:00:18 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: yxPADFV4eT2ge-LhIu8mEMOvRFM Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ryzen lockup on bhyve was (Re: new Ryzen lockup issue ?) To: Mike Tancsa Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 21:00:20 -0000 I'm not using any FreeBSD VMs, only on the bare metal host. The VM instance is CentOS. The network to the VM is a tap bridge. On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 2/23/2018 3:33 PM, Nimrod Levy wrote: > > After a couple of hours of running the iperf commands you were testing > > with, I'm unable to duplicate this so far. > > > > I'm running with FreeBSD stable from 17-Feb with the commits noted > > in https://reviews.freebsd.org/D14347 > > pulled in. > > > > I've also lowered the memory clock and disabled c-states in the bios. > > > > The bhyve VM is running CentOS. > > > > The system has been up for over 6 days and has been running the iperf3 > > loop for over 2 hours. > > > > The hardware is an Asus prime B350-Plus with a Ryzen 5 1600 and 32G of > RAM. > > Hmmm, Interesting. Thank you for testing. I have a slightly different > chipset (X370-PRO). Wouldnt think that would make a difference. And > considering the Epyc also crashes-- although that takes a LOT longer, I > am not sure whats going on. > > There is yet another BIOS update for this board. So trying with that. > The vmm driver does report things a little different, so we will see > > ivhd0: on acpi0 > ivhd0: Flag:b0 > ivhd0: Features(type:0x11) MsiNumPPR = 0 PNBanks= 2 PNCounters= 0 > ivhd0: Extended features[31:0]:22294ada HATS = > 0x2 GATS = 0x0 GLXSup = 0x1 SmiFSup = 0x1 SmiFRC = 0x2 GAMSup = 0x1 > DualPortLogSup = 0x2 DualEventLogSup = 0x2 > ivhd0: Extended features[62:32]:f77ef Max PASID: 0x2f > DevTblSegSup = 0x3 MarcSup = 0x1 > ivhd0: supported paging level:7, will use only: 4 > ivhd0: device range: 0x0 - 0xffff > ivhd0: PCI cap 0x190b640f@0x40 feature:19 > > The load also matters. Try with 2 FreeBSD instances. I am not able to > quickly crash with just one. > > ---Mike > > > > -- > ------------------- > Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 x203 > Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net > Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada >