From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 14 12:28:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FB41574770 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:28:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CC858F57E for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:28:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x3ECSH2c051843 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 14:28:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: [SOLVED] Re: Freshports RSS feeds To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190410204234.6707ee7b@DaemONX> <0a9e015f-b87a-6593-1cd0-567e2ad53357@netfence.it> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 14:28:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0a9e015f-b87a-6593-1cd0-567e2ad53357@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0CC858F57E X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 2.44.121.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.54 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:2.44.121.52]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.01)[0.010,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it,mx.netfence.it]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[netfence.it]; IP_SCORE(-0.25)[ip: (-0.62), ipnet: 2.44.0.0/16(-0.31), asn: 30722(-0.35), country: IT(0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:30722, ipnet:2.44.0.0/16, country:IT]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:28:49 -0000 On 4/11/19 8:50 AM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Validator.w3.org says "Unable to validate, due to hardcoded resource > limits (feed length > 2000000 bytes)". > > Maybe I've got too many watched ports, but I didn't increase them recently. I've purged my list: now Validator still says the feed is too big, but ThunderBird accepts it. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 14 16:38:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5927157A3FC for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.org) Received: from mx3.webtent.net (mx3.webtent.net [208.38.145.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F6D7029A for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTP id 52064D82F3 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx3.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx3.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 98942-01 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:36:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.113] (unknown [96.254.71.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: robert@mx3.webtent.net) by mx3.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTPSA id D8EC1D8295 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:36:20 -0400 (EDT) To: FreeBSD From: Robert Fitzpatrick Subject: Apache 2.4 timeout Message-ID: <9f6c499b-de53-9ae1-9c3d-326cb4e76e36@webtent.org> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 12:36:21 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 PostboxApp/6.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.4_3 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 10F6D7029A X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.95 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:208.38.145.0/26]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx1.webtent.net,mx2.webtent.net,mx3.webtent.net]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[webtent.org:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[webtent.org,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[5.145.38.208.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.68)[-0.682,0]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.16)[ip: (-0.39), ipnet: 208.38.128.0/18(-0.19), asn: 16724(-0.16), country: US(-0.06)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16724, ipnet:208.38.128.0/18, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[webtent.org:s=201611]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA_MAIL_MSGID_UNKNOWN(2.50)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 16:38:29 -0000 I have a strange problem with a jQuery project on FreeBSD 11.2-p9 running Apache 2.4.39. The issue is easily duplicated by spinning up a new VM, install Apache and this file upload project: https://github.com/blueimp/jQuery-File-Upload/ The issue is the file upload give 'Unknown error' when uploading any file that exceeds exactly 22 seconds. After I download the project demo, I adjusted these settings in the demo app to allow a large mp4 video to be uploaded... acceptFileTypes: /(\.|\/)(gif|jpe?g|png|mp4)$/i, maxFileSize: 999000000, My tested example was a mp4 video file just over 200MB in size and gives the error after about 80% and exactly 22 seconds into the download. I did find this 'RequestReadTimeout' setting in Apache and set higher header and body settings: # RequestReadTimeout header=20-40,MinRate=500 body=20,MinRate=500 RequestReadTimeout header=60-120,MinRate=500 body=60,MinRate=500 But same result after an Apache restart. Can anyone suggest what is needed to get this project working? I have downloaded the project to another CentOS7 server where is works fine. -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 14 18:27:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC83E157D548 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 18:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eancaer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x92a.google.com (mail-ua1-x92a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::92a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 819F3754B2 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 18:27:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eancaer@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x92a.google.com with SMTP id p13so4795500uaa.11 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 11:27:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=C+mW0p/V5sfy/GlGWCKEmO8hIQX1ei+fwfmyVVD/DL0=; b=NP4p9sW8nBDgfZDYPmxMKaEVDILihsbqy6mALIaLRYiQdcmI+i1K7qMXLBgg2Xhspr Q3Z5PVy94K58twa3NxRWqM2xOddgGvBoFlV3sGt58XL7YBvtkMJEgukvi4FAeq2tEIvp mhHdsRsLEqlLG8HriapqIGdcT83/LLulE9Y4oE4PuSZmdYDEaL83UMmHuAf8YYZE1RJW +rCJzC2zps1heHAstPaZhNe31ewD5RSQHA8DUqYltvuIqN142BrN4TxGQUi8aOin8yNf F4IveOPvJlhAKLyePNdga8jqJaVnvyyy2dj2KgirTh2sTNrmg8GNtpRR1Kq5KNLEkA8J 8Ncw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=C+mW0p/V5sfy/GlGWCKEmO8hIQX1ei+fwfmyVVD/DL0=; b=GeGz922bmgXNjq+5GMxUMShl+aiBvVPuSD6L5NUKjOt58TW0BsjfeTmcYXqJuhFPKC ObQynSZQkQq3Xucfpp8NkKPMFtJ2C+n6bgqaYRqBfY9U0UsPrGV2/Jp7jzLWcBSOrmmW 1X6OC+TxFfgVxYjZzfEsRViHE61TNuTdxO/h8+CRxL4UCzKezgC0iI/qTl1N2Cgg9FE8 FQHGQbaIGFCZTrXJMeGXuh06poRQANqDKkkDyD6k62LVyOtpvB+mSukP40JGpxcdGpc6 iZoAQKl4JDkUd+tUTOnv6S+0UWK2velHyIbqyJb8MzrPareeC+vRvDfKU9dQfr9aSNdD 5TtQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWfbJObI4jGchXE/KR83A28WBcMNIkS5vo/Hn7cuDdUrGxgfRhY pcJZ6I+Sa1vQALNNMhtw4DKgkA7Km88Jp8OjJ+/nW4hq X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyWCvSI6Qnq8Y775uTu8f6XgTATA9/L1BKzfOGHZHl4VkGRRX6J+3vDUgq0n855iBGkgUUwYul5TKaVk1j58VI= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:24d:: with SMTP id 71mr36954433uas.15.1555266449503; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 11:27:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Edwin Ancaer Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 20:27:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Poudriere error when building a port To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 819F3754B2 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=NP4p9sW8; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of eancaer@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::92a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=eancaer@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.81 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.90)[-0.902,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MANY_INVISIBLE_PARTS(0.10)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.00)[ip: (-9.78), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.96), asn: 15169(-2.19), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[a.2.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 18:27:32 -0000 Hello, I admit I'm in unknown territory here, being new to FreeBSD and Poudriere. Until now, I created a jail and a port in Poudriere and built the metapackage gnustep--app. I changed the configuration of pkg to be able to install from the Poudriere-generated packages, and that also seems to work. But then I noticed that the package deskutils/simpleagenda, part of the metapackage, has a newer and better version in Github, so I tried to update the Makefile to use Github, as explained in the Porters Handbook: # $FreeBSD: tags/RELEASE_12_0_0/deskutils/simpleagenda/Makefile 480741 2018-09-26 15:23:37Z brooks $ CATEGORIES= deskutils gnustep USE_GITHUB= yes GH_ACCOUNT= ottopedi GH_PROJECT= simpleagenda GH_TAGNAME= 6cdfef2 MAINTAINER= theraven@FreeBSD.org COMMENT= simple calendar and agenda application LIB_DEPENDS+= libical.so:devel/libical LICENSE= GPLv2 USES= gnustep USE_GNUSTEP= back build GNU_CONFIGURE= yes CPPFLAGS+= -I${LOCALBASE}/include CFLAGS+= -I${LOCALBASE}/include pre-configure: ${REINPLACE_CMD} -e 's|SimpleAgenda|SimpleAgenda.m|' ${WRKSRC}/configure ${REINPLACE_CMD} -e 's|-luuid||' ${WRKSRC}/GNUmakefile.preamble .include But now, I get an error when executing the command poudriere bulk -j 120amd64 -p head -f /usr/local/etc/poudriere.d/port-list -v It says: [00:00:08] Calculating ports order and dependencies [00:00:08] Warning: x11/gnustep-app dependency on deskutils/simpleagenda has wrong PKGNAME of 'simpleagenda' but should be '' mkdir: illegal option -- / usage: mkdir [-pv] [-m mode] directory_name ... That seems to be an error in the dependencies of the meta-package, but as far as I know, there was nothing changed there. Could somebody give a hint where to strt looking for a solution? Thanks already, Edwin Ancaer From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 14 18:48:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDFC157DB9B for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 18:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.org) Received: from mx3.webtent.net (mx3.webtent.net [208.38.145.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFB175F3B for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 18:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@webtent.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTP id 05BADD80EB for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 14:48:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx3.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx3.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02108-06 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 14:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.113] (unknown [96.254.71.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: robert@mx3.webtent.net) by mx3.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTPSA id D4A36D7F6B for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 14:48:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Apache 2.4 timeout To: FreeBSD References: <9f6c499b-de53-9ae1-9c3d-326cb4e76e36@webtent.org> From: Robert Fitzpatrick Message-ID: <2f19e4bc-73f3-7118-711b-67d537e4f389@webtent.org> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 14:48:13 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 PostboxApp/6.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9f6c499b-de53-9ae1-9c3d-326cb4e76e36@webtent.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.4_3 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5BFB175F3B X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.51 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:208.38.145.0/26]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.webtent.net]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[webtent.org:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[webtent.org,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[5.145.38.208.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.24)[-0.244,0]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.16)[ip: (-0.39), ipnet: 208.38.128.0/18(-0.19), asn: 16724(-0.15), country: US(-0.06)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16724, ipnet:208.38.128.0/18, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[webtent.org:s=201611]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA_MAIL_MSGID_UNKNOWN(2.50)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 18:48:17 -0000 Robert Fitzpatrick via freebsd-questions wrote on 4/14/2019 12:36 PM: > The issue is the file upload give 'Unknown error' when uploading any > file that exceeds exactly 22 seconds. After I download the project demo, > I adjusted these settings in the demo app to allow a large mp4 video to > be uploaded... > > acceptFileTypes: /(\.|\/)(gif|jpe?g|png|mp4)$/i, > maxFileSize: 999000000, > > My tested example was a mp4 video file just over 200MB in size and gives > the error after about 80% and exactly 22 seconds into the download. I > did find this 'RequestReadTimeout' setting in Apache and set higher > header and body settings: > > > #  RequestReadTimeout header=20-40,MinRate=500 body=20,MinRate=500 >   RequestReadTimeout header=60-120,MinRate=500 body=60,MinRate=500 > > > But same result after an Apache restart. Can anyone suggest what is > needed to get this project working? I have downloaded the project to > another CentOS7 server where is works fine. > Although changing the setting above did not work, disabling the reqtimeout module did. When enabled, with or without the settings in the extras/httpd-default.conf file, the larger files fail with the error. I have confirmed with file system snapshots the module was enabled even before the issue existed according to users, after we had done the latest pkg update of apache24 from 2.4.33 to 2.3.39. A bug? Not sure how to downgrade apache24 to test. -- Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Apr 14 20:00:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57220157EFE3 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 20:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dl197313@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it1-x12d.google.com (mail-it1-x12d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 712B577AC5 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 20:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dl197313@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it1-x12d.google.com with SMTP id x132so23824338itf.2 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 13:00:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; 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What I can see of your subject doesn=E2=80=99t seem to make any sense. --=20 Stomach in! Chest out! on your marks! get set! GO! Now, now that you're free, what are you gonna be? Who are you gonna see? And where, where will you go, and how will you know you didn't get it all wrong? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 15 11:12:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034FF1570100 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 11:12:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F32AA747D7 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 11:12:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dch@skunkwerks.at) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875B02106A for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 07:12:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap6 ([10.202.2.56]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 15 Apr 2019 07:12:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=skunkwerks.at; h=mime-version:message-id:date:from:to:subject:content-type; s= fm2; bh=cn5T6SkZkGBE5jx1CP+cd1GIAKvKkAubE4rEK9xQDPw=; b=uVjmwO/g EJHucHSkSHEUWRLcs+bvfcbqviizxiqaWkGjj33/J4Y62xRLAikxpbZQ+0TGoOi3 hNCoWevdf9FobT+YWxpArtceR7dRjxrg1E9dSkjRywKnzW0YI7UZahbRqDmPbcCz wO9fbmk+79sI80m0esfirUaHPNOKwXFLYnBGyk8vkPITflixJlDXUQ/4roCN6/e8 dUnAsbRhtk4xkmbKIDcCwtFzNIsYa8EVogRUsZjjVA6nmbi9rHKwZ+5TElUaElin buUBw+4ieYjle3XeSnveblsNkZ7fSHeJp2vTPnNE8CwHUrEShQsK2waRIzXSgRzP /XL3JnbLE0gV4Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=cn5T6SkZkGBE5jx1CP+cd1GIAKvKk AubE4rEK9xQDPw=; b=ZfLbGDxKHXQ8s1RPt+fnMCt4uWN6vHRz2AGiXUzIDPKlm MJrIb0TFdAbcSVWRtT7xRcDygHbR7JOSuhrDOd0lv0ckyzT0LnyMT615YYnnposX 11LXRnuKOdv7RUzH43wmkKcQwV8AZuwsO+Fieu6U/gxfrxMAznSDAvk3rrJ0PQO6 kxYhrw1x+QVIwL83KChBy49mIcckDK3IsFDsFViCvcAtPU73BHLFKfrDIN/oo4Ym U71baT+gpCb7byiejORtaybxYefDxCX9A0FzQvV9hvIEFnHQTOQgjEsgklzX1WyJ o8ylxyZouBYGn0DRmvtSiLyH4MDaaNboyEN2IzbOA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduuddrvdelgdefjecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepofgfggfkfffhvffutgesthdtredtre ertdenucfhrhhomhepfdffrghvvgcuvehothhtlhgvhhhusggvrhdfuceouggthhesshhk uhhnkhifvghrkhhsrdgrtheqnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegutghhsehskh hunhhkfigvrhhkshdrrghtnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id F356682152; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 07:12:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.1.6-332-g22ddc6a-fmstable-20190412v1 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Me-Personality: 20903217 Message-Id: <1097f8a1-1704-49b8-a7ec-b1916297befd@www.fastmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 07:12:34 -0400 From: "Dave Cottlehuber" To: freebsd-questions Subject: bsdinstall(8) hiccups (resolver & entropy) Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: F32AA747D7 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=skunkwerks.at header.s=fm2 header.b=uVjmwO/g; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm2 header.b=ZfLbGDxK; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dch@skunkwerks.at designates 66.111.4.25 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dch@skunkwerks.at X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.01 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[skunkwerks.at:s=fm2,messagingengine.com:s=fm2]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:66.111.4.25]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[skunkwerks.at]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[skunkwerks.at:+,messagingengine.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[in2-smtp.messagingengine.com,in1-smtp.messagingengine.com,in2-smtp.messagingengine.com,in1-smtp.messagingengine.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.975,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:66.111.4.0/24, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-3.43)[ip: (-9.20), ipnet: 66.111.4.0/24(-4.58), asn: 11403(-3.33), country: US(-0.06)]; MID_RHS_WWW(0.50)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[25.4.111.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 11:12:51 -0000 Hi, I've been experimenting with a variety of ways to build a raw disk image with a zpool, suitable for cloud environments, from within an existing vendor-provided cloud image. This week's fiddle is using bsdinstall(8) which is working fine *except* that: # newaliases hands until a working /etc/resolv.conf is in place during the config stage, it needs a working resolver within the chroot,and newaliases hangs until I copy in a suitable one to /mnt/etc/resolv.conf. This all happens prior to my custom `bsdinstall script ..` running, is there a way to stuff that in there prior? # the final entropy stage fails I'm not quite sure why but I think this may be another chrooty problem with /dev/random. As I can modify the image later, skipping this is also an option, if there's no other solution. OK DEBUG: dialog.subr: DEBUG_SELF_INITIALIZE=[] DEBUG: UNAME_S=[FreeBSD] UNAME_P=[amd64] UNAME_R=[12.0-RELEASE-p3] DEBUG: common.subr: Successfully loaded. DEBUG: f_debug_init: ARGV=[entropy] GETOPTS_STDARGS=[dD:] DEBUG: f_debug_init: debug=[1] debugFile=[] DEBUG: Running installation step: entropy *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /usr/home/dch/bsdinstall thanks! 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RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:59:15 -0000 I think there was autocorrect failures in this message=2E Re: I was told to do FreeBSD because someone is bugging me remotely how do= I block them off truly I have no idea what I'm doing just know I'm hacked = and don't know one thing about FreeBSD could you help me I'm computer iller= ate please Perhaps found out about freebsd not knowing what it is but that it is secu= re believing she will find a solution to her current dilemma by using it=2E My two cents is that coming from computer illiteracy to using freebsd is g= oing to be a steep learning curve=2E On April 15, 2019 8:00:02 AM EDT, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd=2Eorg = wrote: >Send freebsd-questions mailing list submissions to > freebsd-questions@freebsd=2Eorg > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freebsd-questions-request@freebsd=2Eorg > >You can reach the person managing the list at > freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd=2Eorg > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of freebsd-questions digest=2E=2E=2E" --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 15 19:29:52 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A816157C4D3 for ; 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If it's e-mail, add a blocking rule for that particular address. If it's something else - what operating system are you running where someone can be bugging you remotely? > truly I have no idea what I'm doing just know I'm hacked and > don't know one thing about FreeBSD How do you know you're hacked? What are the symptoms, and on what kind of operating system to they appear? How often? How? > could you help me I'm computer illerate please You can find excellent online documentation about how to obtain and install FreeBSD. Here are a few pointers (general and more specific): https://www.freebsd.org/ https://www.freebsd.org/where.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/ For questions, you can contact the mailing lists depending on the topic and scope of the problem: https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo There is also a web forum if you prefer this: https://forums.freebsd.org/ Plenty of other resources can be found in additional user pages by a simple google search. > Perhaps found out about freebsd not knowing what it is but that > it is secure believing she will find a solution to her current > dilemma by using it. Yes, FreeBSD is a secure operating system. > My two cents is that coming from computer illiteracy to using > freebsd is going to be a steep learning curve. No reasonable person would deny this. However, with a working brain, and with the documentation available, anyone should be able to install the OS and the desired software. It's not that hard. Really. However, after finding out what FreeBSD is, you should ask yourself if it is the right tool to solve your current problem. Having a virus-infected system can be cured by wiping it off the disk and re-installing an OS like FreeBSD, but having a physical threat to your system (like a key logger, a wireless keyboard, etc.) can't be solved easily by just software. If you consider your problems that eminent, you should not hesitate to ask a skilled IT person for help - a person who will be able to do the proper diagnostics first, and then suggest appropriate measures. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 15 21:12:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A649157E159 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) Received: from sonic310-11.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic310-11.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.177.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4843926A2 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) X-YMail-OSG: UADnCVwVM1mKOVkqliEh33d_kEI61P44mmokSQ8vHDNxEHKwTB0oZOFiRq_4O.e 0SGSOh_ElFn6Y0QRsZ1LK7xH3LFJcoUSyhL7K8O9eHhwfB7eVgJbtCzwmP1S22PWoW57VLtVnRul 90STrjl0J_NO2v4W.NInbymZaJeSMbWfEqNV4.q4wIFWIgGfRKz6xEUqwik4dCnsAOeubxDma4V8 tvCmgXTVU1luBvaUke8KHrJ5Lg8QVi.ucRvd_JWLjfccyzU_Dj0k_lu89AryMuC5dPkIuMXfMJBL 18l5Of1MiUg2xkXrNKSPLa4DEYkYELHsCgcNu_umcTYzHX42OTdLqpC4A7fdsZ2V4G8wiPf.Mt2l QDOIZEMpxg5B2Vi4dIt_ZPORyUEgksna_RYte9ofm3CgRmflsxQP9_.KjQhMh2V1KVTd1eI4zr.a msFps.hPOxDzAv7zIgyUCbLy9B38Nutuw_65p0xpbfGXj3AM_5fVMyhbxWzl4yccdO1Wr9habCOR nHbXhWQi673CX8Ubsttc8VMQBulZ1mZIMPJqQoKtVB6YKy._eNpXCOjYPDcsHFZXrC4G59A7TrL9 sbfgVLAy2BpnKz.hKdEVjT..lwRBW4m_6l8KgWWneyyHOyJbEiDyfnjT5.6XPbDC8AZRWmdcFNQ6 dtTjP1eLV2k9MKq7GkYaEgJF8lRBvQOYx4egxpEdYC0sPrK7DfRGbk.sj.vGjLrUb0L.3fpOVlMs cZFdXCgHf0p9NhhBERVd7wxEyhh9QufpT5mI.FhmPoonWM1wUqbi.wsWXilboHkmP6jrTZ6Wn4ix .VefzQQFN_ocIAnXBNrrZ4HN_7unnQcRnfrG7AXiGk0J96jtifHf94FqteSYKJC4PvW5OCpcKGj5 _9FoP8Q0d9lFLT5a2HivX8ftjbHeR5WDxHMOppsKzJkBUI0L1_4mP860CMitjNQPpUIfGHhIdaoy PTH_idkNB2Ucb7kmoZbpEanDjU3.PszqBjGugTz0jV4uRAjTsymekIc6aNV6gyhqAPwNdk04M5zl QZkyjcs8wLSYj5G64wnl6cb4XoL382O4zAYALnC3Q6z4idXVgyVRvFjQfN5bs Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic310.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:12:40 +0000 Received: from 139.47.93.90 (EHLO emorras.eu) ([139.47.93.90]) by smtp418.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID eff787b8ca3acb12e9a36f1a6e1ce466 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:12:37 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 23:19:12 +0200 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I was told to do free USB because someone is bugging me remotely how do I block them off truly I have no idea what I'm doing just know I'm hacked and don't know one thing about free bad could you help me I'm computer illerate please Message-Id: <20190415231912.4fc094b328286fd8a0844536@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <20190415212429.26ee433a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20190415212429.26ee433a.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A4843926A2 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.31 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.es]; LONG_SUBJ(1.74)[232]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.es:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net,mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.es,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.es]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.es:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.63)[0.625,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.95)[0.955,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(1.51)[ip: (3.55), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.28), asn: 34010(1.79), country: GB(-0.09)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.991,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[32.177.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:12:49 -0000 On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:24:29 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > > how do I block them off > > What kind of "remotely" is this? If it's e-mail, add a blocking > rule for that particular address. If it's something else - what > operating system are you running where someone can be bugging > you remotely? > Perhaps some funny guy attached a usb mouse and keyboard on her computer and plays with them while she is working. --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 15 21:46:43 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEC4157EF85 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:46:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B504494413 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.126.133]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MWz4j-1hMtbL3KHZ-00XNFy; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 23:46:38 +0200 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 23:46:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Eduardo Morras Cc: Eduardo Morras via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: I was told to do free USB because someone is bugging me remotely how do I block them off truly I have no idea what I'm doing just know I'm hacked and don't know one thing about free bad could you help me I'm computer illerate please Message-Id: <20190415234638.8944ae3d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190415231912.4fc094b328286fd8a0844536@yahoo.es> References: <20190415212429.26ee433a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190415231912.4fc094b328286fd8a0844536@yahoo.es> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:fF1/2r7Q2/QX/dcPmCBX3CBD0zyUWD+2SbOajocy8UKD6NRrapF QXp2zCrh2aLWJgOVUIZ8EWFJQrNK09TqSHh/C+Vo0ZrJJtUhSptudXssihcVmKRhutWmDhI fD4RDwT2EwKL1epUQ2nLMIxElP9l9pHYGF64ochZJO7qYpS6z80JHffMf7bVrw6jYRlO/xo vwCJkdPYXtl9y9zpB6EXw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Np/06n+y+Cs=:28r9/G4KeLXhZV3oNqyURI 0rTaLEvn9p7lYe2Mjxv0W9284Koo7sOVR2Me83Vd7lQ3iFxbCcYnHGqkbF7XoBkUPYDfAZHB7 1hNCIDyF5sFHS0BNd7VhXfrwyRqO6D5sM89Q6b1wGRDlcpDOAez4XjGppkNWu6QD4Tj3FEO8/ skgCBYw4/BITdPr/0hh5Y7u0EZOnPr6VCiUY9EIaE6Y30MRTYcrqRBbPmIK1yWH+oUwRKR8be GAlC58Rk2CorrtDViHN1VuIa7QeY7P+U3T5bKdEzoiCIWScGRpepAB/9rLH//oaGMMF+GxDxB qpjImm3azmMCg4hT/ZWrT2ATTq+Wi3SUIHEWqv7Yfx9iFVO9TTO0G/+uMCY2TFWZa5lJtLVUr EQl7m8b+C/VzLesK7WvkIZ+WAcyVDKiPqnR0a9pIsWaMA1r02Bweni1rXBZu0InU7Qbzp3tVi ea+t7K8MFXAKQyDIBm70x7AozTtt/qI2zdagkycn+uB+z1FsfWiQWPnb6lKQjZ8rysqqI8BMP 2vjExJm1aCxkthA3crde5rK9ydOIdKchNo1eGcjqVLvrUNMGGJfR9lGlGV5qwfJU10PUHuV5W 0URb4bJWCejmUYrIDLkAITCFF44q/L8yf8/U/q/FiluOVnNWhBYzs62TEUr0NcKFJ78lRUW7m rQMaiK0gzCagldJ8bkIugvuD9rA3OIuFAIOC0dOUooAzq9VxhQ/eZPFKULy5j+C3I7URyREX1 9QmfwNkB5CYghMOXnnegTFlEXOlzxcY5AENmD8V4RCfWXaZFQtbwbLH69Ag= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B504494413 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [7.45 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; LONG_SUBJ(1.74)[232]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yahoo.es]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[133.126.195.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.81)[0.809,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.999,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[134.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; IP_SCORE(0.51)[ip: (2.06), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.38), asn: 8560(1.87), country: DE(-0.01)] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:46:43 -0000 On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 23:19:12 +0200, Eduardo Morras via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:24:29 +0200 > Polytropon wrote: > > > > how do I block them off > > > > What kind of "remotely" is this? If it's e-mail, add a blocking > > rule for that particular address. If it's something else - what > > operating system are you running where someone can be bugging > > you remotely? > > > > Perhaps some funny guy attached a usb mouse and keyboard on > her computer and plays with them while she is working. Exactly the "hacker setting" I had in mind... ;-) This is a typical situation where re-installing the OS (or installing a different OS) usually doesn't help. Without proper diagnostics _prior_ to any action, measures taken are often futile. (On the other hand, sometimes it actually helps to reset the router and reboot the computer, deleting cookies and temporary browser storage - and the "hacking" is gone...) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 16 00:56:09 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9EC158211D for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 00:56:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fquest@paz.bz) Received: from mail.haidagwaii.net (mail.haidagwaii.net [23.235.65.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 983B46AFC7 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 00:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fquest@paz.bz) Received: from 254-68-235-23.haidagwaii.net ([23.235.68.254] helo=[192.168.1.8]) by mail.haidagwaii.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1hGCOD-00078x-6u; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:55:57 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jim Pazarena Subject: FBSD 11.2 on VMWare ESXi Message-ID: <3439f7f9-917b-2550-ec99-e98f6260f739@paz.bz> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:55:55 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (54) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 983B46AFC7 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of fquest@paz.bz designates 23.235.65.79 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=fquest@paz.bz X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.16 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.30)[-0.295,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[paz.bz]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.973,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.43)[0.434,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.haidagwaii.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[79.65.235.23.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: CA(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:18988, ipnet:23.235.64.0/20, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 00:56:09 -0000 My first exploration of FreeBSD on ESXi has been a bit challenging . While my network runs fine on vmx0 , FreeBSD doesn't seem acknowledge the existence of vmx1, vmx2, or vmx3 . But they do . I have a CentOS vm which is happy on a different vswitch . Is there anything special about FreeBSD 'seeing' additional vswitches ? I am using ESXi 6.7.0 8169922 , and I just downloaded an 'update 2' of 6.7.0 . Perhaps a re-install to this vmware update 2 will correct this . But that's a whole lot of work . Any tips ahead of that would be most appreciated . -- Jim Pazarena fquest@paz.bz From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 16 02:49:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC45F15855A5 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 02:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7523F6F0E1 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 02:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x3G2TLsP038911 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:29:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) From: Gary Aitken Subject: latex on fbsd Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <7c7b8992-053a-b22f-da45-b6cfaf3b753b@dreamchaser.org> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:27:24 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:29:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7523F6F0E1 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.50 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[nightmare.dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.928,0]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.26)[ip: (-8.54), ipnet: 66.109.128.0/19(-4.27), asn: 21947(-3.42), country: US(-0.06)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 02:49:11 -0000 I know next to nothing about latex but need to mark up a latex document. I have a pdf output to work from, so I can use my trusty vi if necessary, but am wondering if anyone has other suggestions. In searching I found references to TeXmaker, TeXStudio and TeXworks, but I don't see any of those in the ports tree under textproc. thoughts? Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 16 02:52:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B2F1585870 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 02:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E21B6F329 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 02:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x3G2q3p0038965 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:52:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Subject: Re: latex on fbsd From: Gary Aitken To: FreeBSD Mailing List Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org, freebsd@dreamchaser.org References: <7c7b8992-053a-b22f-da45-b6cfaf3b753b@dreamchaser.org> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:50:06 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; 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NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: nightmare.dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.92)[-0.924,0]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.28)[ip: (-8.60), ipnet: 66.109.128.0/19(-4.30), asn: 21947(-3.44), country: US(-0.06)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 02:52:06 -0000 On 4/15/19 8:27 PM, Gary Aitken wrote: > I know next to nothing about latex but need to mark up a latex document. > I have a pdf output to work from, so I can use my trusty vi if necessary, > but am wondering if anyone has other suggestions. > > In searching I found references to TeXmaker, TeXStudio and TeXworks, but > I don't see any of those in the ports tree under textproc. never mind, I see things under editors From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 16 03:07:20 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF8B1586182 for ; 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But they do . I have a CentOS vm > which is happy on a different vswitch . > > Is there anything special about FreeBSD 'seeing' additional vswitches ? > I am using ESXi 6.7.0 8169922 , and I just downloaded an 'update 2' of > 6.7.0 . > > Perhaps a re-install to this vmware update 2 will correct this . But > that's a whole lot of work . > > Any tips ahead of that would be most appreciated . for just a moment , I see the following on the ESXi console screen for FreeBSD: pcib19: Attention Button Pressed: Detaching in 5 seconds pci5: on picb19 vmx1: at device 0.0 on pci5 vmx1: Ethernet address: 00:0c:29:61:d0:61 vmx1: detached pci5: detached At this point I do not know if this is a VMWare issue, or a FreeBSD issue, or a HP Server issue . 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Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Reply-To: anders@askerglass.no To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Anders S Nielsen Subject: https://forums.freebsd.org/ blocked? 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-- Mvh/Best regards Anders S Nielsen Asker Glassmesterforretning A/S Bleikerveien 10, 1387 Asker Telefon: 66 78 30 56 Mobil: +47 97 63 20 43 E-mail: anders@askerglass.no Web: http://www.askerglass.no/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 16 11:27:42 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6615A156ED54 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 11:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21A8A881B8 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 11:27:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.126.133]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MwQGj-1gxJSe37Jd-00sMdD; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:27:29 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:27:27 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: latex on fbsd Message-Id: <20190416132727.7af30132.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <7c7b8992-053a-b22f-da45-b6cfaf3b753b@dreamchaser.org> References: <7c7b8992-053a-b22f-da45-b6cfaf3b753b@dreamchaser.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:vcjIZMnomUcn1DBXO9BMxsIO9tFy8u9ZYVzBr0CB/23YHUTMb4m 2FxIAIc9wXwgIQHy9fS22p3ygjSxMKJ80XDAXwou1Odj+1u5mgDJh1aGG54CMbcbTYiWhMg Iy3JoUk2AEDDu4gTXUYP4Do/yMWWXtXZWze7Z2/MLdYzZJUFiPko1d+iuviAJ0m9IMSPLOz gy4yULMow7/LnwepH+YOA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:F3TPyT8rGtE=:KK/RBgRoZazQhGLwqAlpJH ZCFa0tdVAnUlEep59pw5HRXeQYioREV2/gbkgFyLJlHPUgYS1tqcU6ATWBhZVUKR3L9s5j0Ot HN4qtw5FrJrprgaTyDuix+AvkR3q0jUj2aGLfILyzaiVeDul4fKa4vmx+WH1VkKfdVzkoFJHW RYSa3SYKj3T3yEhXq1NlHqA3LSqsJP/MzEwQdQ31mXgU5PATgvjjbIXBIZ0g/B7C2GHbesyvk 1ERVv/JBfhAmIwk98B8eIq1C3ikNjmxU+SHCpPqyEL808Mr64XXGPzGXRsmtDigaov1Brx1rZ vBXYNaKooy0U7/q2tsA9wDk/+QX/n1tdV3ih8PfyXYKBHsHYKhknpIRs2Kd/3i2AVQAg9hEDC dIxEIWChM+x2CIfij34SpcWN0pj6qYZwNpjv7nJ/FUh/WsiHlciVTb+dz0uWn9KwkRZ9EqwcW EzXEGSfLntuHo5VWEycmBTMVd/X+/WCwKjDbRm68IoiZiZU/yT+SZAucKtBuPRJ3E+SDWSs+W YsL0YMJO5/IUYaZu9Z8Oroq3BRNKEJ8nGVIXuYfNQtW4cNxRIExG1q+bfyilqk1azPBqE+DAs FW7Vp+kUTWpKV7MEMbtgy4h6HCSwSRS6Bu7PVAjyfHhaBTTs0fDKrUblcbd+fWieEUFJCdpkZ 7OTLOHyUekrfTeX4X0+nUlgeTx0wGgH/jwSSuittACXbyjUmiJTrgT7gQHeTFosomDy44zaFm ZT1gmqAvVdNwvVrsaqaEXQ8aCHeqCq4zi0ESt+oMUMIDZQgIB/WKTe7xzXY= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 21A8A881B8 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.78 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[133.126.195.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.97)[0.965,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.994,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.998,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.43)[ip: (1.66), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.38), asn: 8560(1.87), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 11:27:42 -0000 On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:27:24 -0600, Gary Aitken wrote: > I know next to nothing about latex but need to mark up a latex document. > I have a pdf output to work from, so I can use my trusty vi if necessary, > but am wondering if anyone has other suggestions. > > In searching I found references to TeXmaker, TeXStudio and TeXworks, but > I don't see any of those in the ports tree under textproc. The default LaTeX distribution form is TeXlive. This is what you should install first. If you need a WYSIWYG add-on, you can find tools like LyX or the different TeX you mentioned above in the "editors" category of the ports tree. Depending on the kind and scope of your work, using "plain LaTeX" with your editor of choice, and then simply running the command "pdflatex filename.tex", could be the easiest thing - less overhead, less distraction, less stuff to manually adjust in the GUI. (I'm saying this as a person who does 99 % of all paperwork in "plain LaTeX", with the special case where LaTeX is generated automatically from special tools.) On the other hand, starting LaTeX with a WYSIWYG environment is nothing bad, as long as you don't look into the horror markup it often tends to generate... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 16 15:00:34 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E56C1574C4C for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FE688F951 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x3GF0Qqq040832; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 09:00:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: latex on fbsd To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <7c7b8992-053a-b22f-da45-b6cfaf3b753b@dreamchaser.org> <20190416132727.7af30132.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Gary Aitken Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 08:58:29 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190416132727.7af30132.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Tue, 16 Apr 2019 09:00:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 8FE688F951 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.36 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: nightmare.dreamchaser.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.75)[-0.748,0]; IP_SCORE(-3.30)[ip: (-8.65), ipnet: 66.109.128.0/19(-4.33), asn: 21947(-3.46), country: US(-0.06)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:00:34 -0000 On 4/16/19 5:27 AM, Polytropon wrote: > Depending on the kind and scope of your work, using "plain > LaTeX" with your editor of choice, and then simply running > the command "pdflatex filename.tex", could be the easiest > thing - less overhead, less distraction, less stuff to manually > adjust in the GUI. (I'm saying this as a person who does > 99 % of all paperwork in "plain LaTeX", with the special > case where LaTeX is generated automatically from special > tools.) Thanks, pdflatex is what I needed to know. > On the other hand, starting LaTeX with a WYSIWYG environment > is nothing bad, as long as you don't look into the horror markup > it often tends to generate... ;-) Thanks for the heads-up; will check that. For what I'm doing I should only be adding / modifying text, so no additional markup. If the tool doesn't transform existing stuff it might work. Thanks, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 16 15:30:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA0915759F1 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:30:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BF36A5B7 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFD071804D for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:30:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: latex on fbsd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <7c7b8992-053a-b22f-da45-b6cfaf3b753b@dreamchaser.org> <20190416132727.7af30132.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:30:48 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 64BF36A5B7 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.78 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.27)[-0.265,0]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.94)[-0.940,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.35)[0.347,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[kicp.uchicago.edu]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:30:57 -0000 On 4/16/19 9:58 AM, Gary Aitken wrote: > On 4/16/19 5:27 AM, Polytropon wrote: > >> Depending on the kind and scope of your work, using "plain >> LaTeX" with your editor of choice, and then simply running >> the command "pdflatex filename.tex", could be the easiest >> thing - less overhead, less distraction, less stuff to manually >> adjust in the GUI. (I'm saying this as a person who does >> 99 % of all paperwork in "plain LaTeX", with the special >> case where LaTeX is generated automatically from special >> tools.) > > Thanks, pdflatex is what I needed to know. Just to mention one thing: in TeX there are two mutually exclusive ways to insert pictures in the document: 1. in image (jpeg, png,...) or pdf format. 2. in eps format. In case 1. to typeset the document you use pdflatex command. Alternative: EPS (Encapsulated PostScript) format is pretty much the same as postscript format, only it lacks finalizing page commands that will be added when the whole thing together with other content is put on particular page. To typeset document in this case you use latex command which produces .dvi file which you can view, or can convert to postscript file with dvips command, or to pdf using dvipdf command (which comes with ghostscript package). Incidentally, TeX was created as programming language to program typesetting machines. Do people remember such things as typesetting machines? Postscript, BTW, was created as programming language to "draw" whatever is necessary on the printed page and is my life saver in case of postscript capable printers. Thanks, Adobe, I have a bunch of grudges about your recent licensing schemes, but I appreciate great thing Adobe created: postscript language. Valeri > >> On the other hand, starting LaTeX with a WYSIWYG environment >> is nothing bad, as long as you don't look into the horror markup >> it often tends to generate... ;-) > > Thanks for the heads-up; will check that. > For what I'm doing I should only be adding / modifying text, so no > additional markup.  If the tool doesn't transform existing stuff it > might work. > > Thanks, > Gary > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 16 18:44:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A082E157A41A for ; 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(I'm saying this as a person who does > > 99 % of all paperwork in "plain LaTeX", with the special > > case where LaTeX is generated automatically from special > > tools.) > > Thanks, pdflatex is what I needed to know. > > > On the other hand, starting LaTeX with a WYSIWYG environment > > is nothing bad, as long as you don't look into the horror markup > > it often tends to generate... ;-) > > Thanks for the heads-up; will check that. > For what I'm doing I should only be adding / modifying text, so no > additional markup. If the tool doesn't transform existing stuff it > might work. In this case, I'd think that using a GUI (and configuring it to do what you need it to do) is too much work. You should be able to use your favorite editor together with the command line tools provided from the TeXlive default installation. There is no need to make things more complicated. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Apr 16 18:55:38 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE369157A7DF for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05CDD731BD for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.126.133]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MFsd7-1h45UC3LbD-00HMyc; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 20:50:19 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 20:50:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Valeri Galtsev Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: latex on fbsd Message-Id: <20190416205018.2454922d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <7c7b8992-053a-b22f-da45-b6cfaf3b753b@dreamchaser.org> <20190416132727.7af30132.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:j1MlwPm6WIxMpGUw5EsQIi2hHk4rSNC1kzaoI/spBgyijadnNRx S84w04objyvHp2NTvNNTMam17kWxNuX5rjmvS/7HTlquu8upcE6PJV+ImAS0TztUP1fXorR Z4r3nTaUWjay51Ip0cyV8eY8o3icC367p9IGSWfLjuQQRx1fUJXNTqAkaNqU+oonaT0RuxM lktLohQGXR6pgT+LAYS7Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:i7jYBBN+4J0=:aoUUxtJpcU3mcYVRLG8izd kyMvPVqwk+VRPkUf3jE3eoCci+yMKoF05rzryNit2IppiQJaqEhU1yV5vYWNAvGW9AcZbP/pZ ysPlLcAJ+l/hWv3UpYYCRYXebgHa0qwfXpHxoKbA9yg/pDY3vt10D7CNH78OpkgWkPxA6FPrB CNoEEVFtHUzdvyJCr887tb+YCzS+oTbLupRkXLLGW8/9WG97RvesXOhTc7fRTGHEQBxIpbwmb dSw+TKf/SUclVsOkMvlZs4V3opXkEsr5yBZoLR1s3xfumct6MgvF1HGbPWTUbhDAbdeDFLqM3 1KaE090k2tNFkY3krduSOLx6fG2miY6tNbvsSzfaTpgVpJ+rJniW3+qY/wxv3FlcPQFp85lHL O41zX9622N6OLKu+jcGmRCfCBZu56G3GUDcm4QwhRar8ZudFQNNO7gUEjikk0iTqEWAO5hr3f DGOO++LxAWi7PB6Vs1gLY7rA0wRQrPPoAyXhTrhHx46eQxMiGdNolj0yaTotzf1+JNRrOq+5R srs+ruSUuHV0GqfwKeoEq/Psse45Q6OkEvRPBf+EWR1YFhjDMSQR/RuTdQvJcNQIUvNrPF/X+ Zn22nl7L0bxICTPuQPlhzATvPebOJ8TkIlY2PuGtHYazItggL+So/TF1X9PF4S51YYUyHYSwr kY4Q8J7+7qF7lsl8AZNl0KlxZKXrj8YvyG9On1vybdCNm/AstChDbDu5Yejlve506zMEPV8Og Bj7GqqLahYKcX+vLmhopBFTSzLsTnseu4gg04WPf5DTQ+X8eYupP9ZPBgvI= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 05CDD731BD X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.40 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx01.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[133.126.195.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.92)[0.920,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.95)[0.950,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.98)[0.975,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[24.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.17)[ip: (0.36), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.37), asn: 8560(1.87), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:55:38 -0000 On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 10:30:48 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > On 4/16/19 9:58 AM, Gary Aitken wrote: > > On 4/16/19 5:27 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > > >> Depending on the kind and scope of your work, using "plain > >> LaTeX" with your editor of choice, and then simply running > >> the command "pdflatex filename.tex", could be the easiest > >> thing - less overhead, less distraction, less stuff to manually > >> adjust in the GUI. (I'm saying this as a person who does > >> 99 % of all paperwork in "plain LaTeX", with the special > >> case where LaTeX is generated automatically from special > >> tools.) > > > > Thanks, pdflatex is what I needed to know. > > Just to mention one thing: in TeX there are two mutually exclusive ways > to insert pictures in the document: > > 1. in image (jpeg, png,...) or pdf format. > > 2. in eps format. The big difference in usage is that case 1 is the common way for "everyday use" and "business documents", and case 2 is often used in DTP up to the pre-print stage. This is because printing often requires you to supply vector formats that they can render and print to a specific resolution - and EPS (as well as DVI) are device-independent formats that do not convey a specific "raster size". > [...] EPS (Encapsulated PostScript) format is pretty > much the same as postscript format, only it lacks finalizing page > commands that will be added when the whole thing together with other > content is put on particular page. To typeset document in this case you use > > latex > > command which produces .dvi file which you can view, or can convert to > postscript file with dvips command, or to pdf using dvipdf command > (which comes with ghostscript package). Of course you can postprocess that output. A typical chain would be tex -> dvi -> ps -> pdf. But in many cases, printers can process the PS just fine, so using the "dvips" command (with the appropriate options) and sending its output to the printer will do the job. Historically, PS is _the_ format for printed output. Every program that prints something emits PS. The printer subsystem of the OS uses processes it with a printer filter (if needed) and sends the result to the printer's interface. Sending the print output to a file therefore gave you a PS file that you could examine. > Incidentally, TeX was created as programming language to program > typesetting machines. Do people remember such things as typesetting > machines? LaTeX (as a whole) is a toolset to do typesetting (in its modern sense), whereas WYSIWYG office applications do not do typesetting. They do word processing. On the "ladder of evolution", typesetting is of course superior to word processing. You can easily see this by comparing the look of properly typeset documents with what common offlice applications will spit out. :-) > Postscript, BTW, was created as programming language to "draw" whatever > is necessary on the printed page and is my life saver in case of > postscript capable printers. You can of course write PS programs and feed them into the printer, and the printer will execute the programs (if it is _capable_ of processing PS) so that a specific output will be printed. When PS is used to output raster graphics (converted from a DVI format, for example), the PS doesn't do much more than "put a pixel here, put a pixel there", but PS as such (!) can do great things with graphics and fonts. PS is additionally used in PPD - "PostScript Printer Description" -, a format where a PS file will describe printer capabilities and make them addressable for the printer subsystem, maybe comparable a printer filter. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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They do word processing. 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You are invited Paris 2019 Extended Abstracts Submission Deadline June 1st, 2019 Venue: University Paris 8, Paris, France 2019 International Conference on Materials and Nanomaterials (MNs-19) ( http://email.sci-knowledge.eu/c/eJxtj71uwyAURp8Gb7UwGBwPDPQnG-7iDJ0qAsQmccA1WDR--pIoY6WrK50j3U_300xqWBWWifMH-ex5Eom_VRShmpIvDOkrF_2h6vpD6jaxiV6QbuM3UMOUUhmUvTifJqMHUzoTi5FJSlrYKEjbhhKNT1LuYC11q2TVNEjXxcTGGOcAMAdon-e_nKyt0-a3nMcZ4L2fo_UO4Hflr99S3a7STtYNAFEVlyn7NW9Ew3q0OtPz-2yyf5gdRZkeZ3fMtYqFnRZjjkG__Kwm3PNDLvV0pV-GP7R3Wi8 ) 17-19 July 2019 Universite Paris 8 Paris, France More Information ( http://email.sci-knowledge.eu/c/eJxtj7FugzAQhp_GbEVgg5sMHpy22UwXMnSqwOeAW2JTbOSGp-8lyljpdNL3SffrfhAdFGVmhfp6q99bmVSSLyWntOL1Byv4Qar2VDbtKTWb2lSr6maTV1IVKaU8aPvtfJoMDCZ3Jmaj0Bx27Lx_NpTteWWAaQo1LRjtaQUd8GwSY4xzIEwSesT5Lwe1dWB-83mcCTv6OVrvCHvV_vLZ6euls5N1A6Fcx2VCv-KmPKy9BaTH92jQ382OM6T72Q2xVraI82JMH-DpZzXhlh-w1MPlfhn-ANhbWl0 ) BENEFITS: - Possibility of presenting certified oral communications. - Publication of your abstract and your extended abstract in the proceedings E-book of the conference. - Possibility of submiting selected papers to International Congress Journals. 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Looking forward to welcoming you in Paris ! 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You are invited Paris 2019 Extended Abstracts Submission Deadline June 1st, 2019 Venue: University Paris 8, Paris, France 2019 International Conference on Materials and Nanomaterials (MNs-19) ( http://email.sci-knowledge.eu/c/eJxtj7FugzAQhp_GjAhsapHBg9skUgfCQoZMEdgHuCE2xUZuefpeooyVTid9n3S_7tei1VmeGFHvD0XVfG61lB85p7TgxYVl_F1WzTk_Ned42qqt-rrEupGRFFmMMfXK3KyLE-gBUgshGQUAUMYAdL9TmqluB1nfvqmy5KzvFKXJJMYQZk-YJPSI818OamM1_KTzOBN2dHMwzhK2V-5-bdXvvTWTsQOhXIVlQr_iptyvndFIr-_RoH-aklOk59kDsVayiO8V_CPXY5l-Aei8Tt0y_AHEzVhk ) 17-19 July 2019 Universite Paris 8 Paris, France More Information ( http://email.sci-knowledge.eu/c/eJxtj7FugzAQhp_GjAhs49DBA2kSKQNhIUOmCnwuuCU2xUZuefpeoo6VTid9n3S_7gfZQZYnRjaHI6_b89ZU1WsuKOWC31gm9lXdXvNLe42Xrd7qj1ts2ioSnsUYU6_Mp3Vx0jDo1OqQjFKB4kxpxcseeMa5huJllytaFgXsoNPJJMcQZk9YRegJ578c1MaC_k7ncSbs5OZgnCXsoNz9rVM_985Mxg6EChWWCf2Kmwq_9gaQ_r5Hg_5pSsGQnmcPxFrJIr9W7R-5Hsu8L1r3HlK3DL9b3FfS ) BENEFITS: - Possibility of presenting certified oral communications. - Publication of your abstract and your extended abstract in the proceedings E-book of the conference. - Possibility of submiting selected papers to International Congress Journals. CONFERENCE JOURNALS (Selected Papers) De Gruyter REVIEWS ON ADVANCED MATERIALS SCIENCE HIGH TEMPERATURE MATERIALS AND PROCESSES OPEN MATERIAL SCIENCES E-POLYMERS OPEN PHYSICS GREEN PROCESSING AND SYNTHESIS ELECTROSPINNING OPEN ASTRONOMY OPEN ENGINEERING MDPI SURFACES JOURNAL OF COMPOSITES SCIENCE REGISTRATION INCLUDES: - Access to all sessions (oral and poster). - Briefcase (with pen, notebook, lanyard, pen-drive, laser pointer). - Printed program of the conference. - Abstracts E-book with ISBN in USB drive. - Extended Abstract E-book with ISBN in USB drive. - 3 day coffee breaks. - 2 day lunches. - 1 Closing Cocktail with a Chamber Music Concert. - 1 Social/cultural visit/tour. A CRUISE ON THE SEINE AT NIGHTFALL. EXTENDED DEADLINES: - Abstracts sending: June 1st 2019 - Acceptance notification: June 5th 2019 - Submission of extended abstracts (optional): June 10th 2019 - Early bird registration: June 10th 2019 REGISTRATION FEES click here ( http://email.sci-knowledge.eu/c/eJxtj7FugzAQhp_GjAhs92DxQJtG6kBYyJCpAtuAW2ITbOSUp-8l6ljpdNL3SffrfiU6leWJEc3hndftx95U1VsOlHLgF5bBa1W35_zUnuNpr_f66xKbtoqEZzHG1EvzbV2ctRp1anVIJsG5LEC_ZD1jrATGeTHIkvcwlCznqpDJLKYQFk9YRegR578c1MYqfU-XaSHs6JZgnCXsIN31s5M_187Mxo6EggzrjH7DTcFvvVFIf9-jQf80JQDS8-yBWCtZxW3T_pHrscywat17lbp1_AWUJFa- ) ABSTRACT SUBMISSION click here ( http://email.sci-knowledge.eu/c/eJxtj71uwyAURp8Gj5b5MaUDA2kaqYPjxRkyVRiwTeuAa7Bo_fQlUcdKV1c6R7qf7qe51BUsLG-Pr6Tp3vZWiBdIESKUXHFFD6LpLvDcXdJ5b_bm45raTiRAqpRSGZT9dD7NRo-mdCYWEx8gIxSiajDPRElZG2YYHiSkfV3XlKli5lOMSwBYAHTK819O1tZp810u0wLwyS_RegfwUfnbu1Q_N2ln60aAqIrrnP2WN6Jh663O9Pd9Ntk_DKNPmR5nd8y1ipV_bSbcc0MuM6zG9EGXfh1_AfjbV0w ) Finally, on behalf of the Organizing Committee, I would like to invite all the Scientific Community to participate in this project, presenting papers or communications related to any of the proposed areas. 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Thu, 18 Apr 2019 02:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fquest@paz.bz) Received: from mail.haidagwaii.net (mail.haidagwaii.net [23.235.65.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F05671A2D for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 02:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fquest@paz.bz) Received: from [209.145.97.15] (helo=[192.168.0.220]) by mail.haidagwaii.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1hGx9Z-000HCl-7o; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 19:51:57 -0700 Subject: Re: FBSD 11.2 on VMWare ESXi From: Jim Pazarena To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <64fd362f-af65-83cd-98c2-535e8ae053c6@paz.bz> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 19:51:56 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3F05671A2D X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; 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But they do . I have a CentOS >> vm which is happy on a different vswitch . >> >> Is there anything special about FreeBSD 'seeing' additional vswitches ? >> I am using ESXi 6.7.0 8169922 , and I just downloaded an 'update 2' of >> 6.7.0 . >> >> Perhaps a re-install to this vmware update 2 will correct this . But >> that's a whole lot of work . >> >> Any tips ahead of that would be most appreciated . Someone responded off-list and suggested that I switch to the e1000 drive rather than the vmx driver . It worked ! Thanks for the tip . Jim > > for just a moment , I see the following on the ESXi console screen for > FreeBSD: > > pcib19: Attention Button Pressed: Detaching in 5 seconds > pci5: on picb19 > vmx1: at device 0.0 on pci5 > vmx1: Ethernet address: 00:0c:29:61:d0:61 > vmx1: detached > pci5: detached > > At this point I do not know if this is a > VMWare issue, or a > FreeBSD issue, or a > HP Server issue . > > A guiding hand would be appreciated . > -- Jim Pazarena fquest@paz.bz From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 18 07:03:13 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738941589F14 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 07:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakes@myself.com) Received: from hosting.justhost.in.ua (hosting.justhost.in.ua [91.213.8.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AA7C81536 for ; 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Can we contact a person w/r/t that task? thanks frank On 17-April-2019, at 10:07 AM, pete wright wrote: > hey there - is anyone else using zoom for video conferencing on = freebsd? > for a while i had both audio and video working IIRC, but recently it = looks > like only video is working. my speaker isn't detected by their = web-app. > interestingly enough i have no problems with other webrtc apps like = Jitsi. >=20 > i wanted to ping this list first before i dive into trying to get = their > linux binaries running under emulation... >=20 > -pete >=20 > --=20 > pete wright > www.nomadlogic.org > @nomadlogicLA > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 Frank frankfenderbender@council124.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 18 18:00:14 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F341577D66 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 18:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 693D5714C5 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 18:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-lf1-f42.google.com (mail-lf1-f42.google.com [209.85.167.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: kevans) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD66C9722 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 18:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-lf1-f42.google.com with SMTP id d12so2291817lfk.6 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXTuCqJ6LXLyr3hBl7ylul7hm6iKd+kEDgvRaFIXIl3xP6bWP80 ezD2p5vPN6K3E1GSZ2G7swC3YZkPG1xpde5gOMY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwPY/IkP9ZLmcSuJmEjxoyGIsall7f2SF/jIr+VVezn4qDjWasZG4/KVjJOq/wQPh1JZOgSbWiLqgBEshQU+Dc= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:528e:: with SMTP id q14mr11465037lfm.83.1555610410210; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 11:00:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Kyle Evans Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:59:57 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: zoom.us video chat audio To: Frank Fenderbender Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 693D5714C5 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.99 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:2610:1c1:1::/48, country:US]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 18:00:15 -0000 On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 12:56 PM Frank Fenderbender wrote: > > Is it "normal" to see (and tolerate) so much cybermarketing spam on the list? > Is theri a spamassassin and anti-BOT list we can update? > > Can we contact a person w/r/t that task? > > thanks > frank > It seems to hit off and on, but I'm kind of curious why you chose a legitimate question about Zoom (which is known not to work with FreeBSD, but I don't recall any of the good alternatives) to bring this up. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 18 18:17:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B9515789CF for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 18:17:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B90E73345; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 18:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.126.133]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MXXhv-1hLJYs3ial-00Z2jv; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 20:11:38 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 20:11:37 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Kyle Evans Cc: Frank Fenderbender , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: zoom.us video chat audio Message-Id: <20190418201137.e2143605.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:VLOQAdAfQNK2iQ1nw2/GwMVODVcAOH5uEQtF6hlcJIHHFt5n7dp 46tcXoUv25zN+DLHbqPBQ8LOUegVF/u5VBsarLZ1MWwKzEG+rFLVnjQ7fr8xLm/3QxXxLC+ 8ollWX0nEmY/tqSg9XFZWSnjuOvBS2nCLUdFLe7GQo4DtjKzdWwDpWhidqk4pF9B5B+nTfE mBK6rpo+wcCskVxl1aTdg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:hF43Sio1+ZA=:Q2SZuTffWbBVymzXH5XTkU P1GntTQLlAy5SrEQCR6LGuQdxkjUrUzlsJmQmbCaaFJJLLHuIi94hEEuuT+ymL9e3J8qfbzRI zZ3n0pdpezV7maYMB5eUDz1ckk9aavD0ADi0nn2F6uqjF4vYTe21nLSUOXcIgTdnZCtFChnpB geEZC0EkzqMHMOQVYO0/mjHWuoDIMuOfr2Va1jzs6eEV9wOViA2ru8rqVqJVHmngYXK+fBdwE uzyCs6C7GoUrTp+SdSqJdTnYw0PxmYZdQHQ629+5qgCJJw3xdE9ptSHy8IQ96hxO6Os1wySMh d2YdHtXVENiKbY414i0eMAXqLwNw+P21xzOfZ27V6fDlpb8DlN7Ew0ITsNcxlgb6TCWGbqMTC p6XjlYdN59sZTSaEWGDTcjw+Jtjg75zsYLS+8N76jpYehesEe7XPrnOejab0lm0sj7rF5Osye XnrbqF+Q3WtEwaFSdf+zofL7fye3Q+rgdqivtZp+NedWoaDmvdBuimNG3snJu+vkq/QDiOpPX P/meTiCmH92gQSXsMrthhsStJUW/3gFQQ0NuptyK8isD/s6/mDjj9wkM4/CyXlX0C0l1FzK0r LwqQqJNhq7G+g+b03g3Z7afN/sq6DmgQ+3V5tWxUwspO5/egNDexTamkzZipuAkFX24pPFwrN slftbsz/KEzYmahsufy7n5FFFxq+xXJ3QN4fQtLhtg2h/BtJ5xYWn2W+qpXUhIyK3zyInW0Gd 5jzTYu1x+FprlIHYIWuQKqGHvTRe1kpcN/4zIzKoR3aQQuDcuGI67i/thbY= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4B90E73345 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.17 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx00.schlund.de,mx01.schlund.de]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[133.126.195.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; URL_IN_SUBJECT(0.40)[zoom.us]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.93)[0.930,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.999,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[131.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.45)[ip: (1.79), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.37), asn: 8560(1.86), country: DE(-0.01)] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 18:17:07 -0000 On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:59:57 -0500, Kyle Evans wrote: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 12:56 PM Frank Fenderbender > wrote: > > > > Is it "normal" to see (and tolerate) so much cybermarketing spam on the list? > > Is theri a spamassassin and anti-BOT list we can update? > > > > Can we contact a person w/r/t that task? > > > > thanks > > frank > > > > It seems to hit off and on, but I'm kind of curious why you chose a > legitimate question about Zoom (which is known not to work with > FreeBSD, but I don't recall any of the good alternatives) to bring > this up. Those "spam blasts" seem to go on and off, so there probably is already someone in the background taking measures. In case you want to make suggestions on how to deal with spam on the "list-side", you could contact mailman@freebsd.org or choose one of the appropriate lists from: https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo The freebsd-questions@ list probably isn't the right context for this kind of discussion, as it tends to create more noise than the actual spam, to which I hereby plead guilty of being a noise contributor. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 18 19:24:15 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BFD157A49B for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 19:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F39B75F0D for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 19:24:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F8471805B for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:24:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: zoom.us video chat audio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 14:24:07 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5F39B75F0D X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.35 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; URL_IN_SUBJECT(0.40)[zoom.us]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.74)[-0.740,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.03)[0.033,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.58)[0.581,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[kicp.uchicago.edu]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 19:24:15 -0000 On 4/18/19 12:56 PM, Frank Fenderbender wrote: > Is it "normal" to see (and tolerate) so much cybermarketing spam on the list? > Is theri a spamassassin and anti-BOT list we can update? Alas, list traditionally is "open", anybody can post to it, no need to subscribe to list. And when I asked why not to make it so subscribers only can post, the answer was solid NO. Without that done first all other anti-spam measures are less productive, so I myself decided to tolerate what it is, and unsubscribe when my patience runs down. Just my $0.02 Valeri > > Can we contact a person w/r/t that task? > > thanks > frank > > On 17-April-2019, at 10:07 AM, pete wright wrote: > >> hey there - is anyone else using zoom for video conferencing on freebsd? >> for a while i had both audio and video working IIRC, but recently it looks >> like only video is working. my speaker isn't detected by their web-app. >> interestingly enough i have no problems with other webrtc apps like Jitsi. >> >> i wanted to ping this list first before i dive into trying to get their >> linux binaries running under emulation... >> >> -pete >> >> -- >> pete wright >> www.nomadlogic.org >> @nomadlogicLA >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > Frank > frankfenderbender@council124.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 18 22:33:08 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4C3157E243 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 22:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (static-71-163-255-121.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.163.255.121]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail", Issuer "mail" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB0DA83987; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 22:33:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from tripel.monochrome.org (tripel.monochrome.org [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x3IMMRDN079276; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 18:22:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 18:22:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Kyle Evans cc: Frank Fenderbender , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Spam on the list (was Re: zoom.us video chat audio) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: EB0DA83987 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.56 / 15.00]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.monochrome.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:701, ipnet:71.163.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; URL_IN_SUBJECT(0.40)[zoom.us]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.95)[0.950,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[monochrome.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.994,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.988,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.34)[asn: 701(1.75), country: US(-0.06)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 22:33:08 -0000 On Thu, 18 Apr 2019, Kyle Evans wrote: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 12:56 PM Frank Fenderbender > wrote: >> >> Is it "normal" to see (and tolerate) so much cybermarketing spam on >> the list? >> Is theri a spamassassin and anti-BOT list we can update? >> >> Can we contact a person w/r/t that task? >> >> thanks >> frank >> > > It seems to hit off and on, but I'm kind of curious why you chose a > legitimate question about Zoom (which is known not to work with > FreeBSD, but I don't recall any of the good alternatives) to bring > this up. Considering that this is an open list that's been around for decades, spam is vanishingly rare in these parts. And every so often someone complains about the amount being nonzero, and each time I reflect that I would love to see this percentage of spam coming into my own server. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 18 22:44:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37ED157E6BE for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 22:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B612F83ECD for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 22:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Spam on the list (was Re: zoom.us video chat audio) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:44:08 -0600 References: To: Paul Macdonald via freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <7F581E09-12BB-4864-ACDA-90A79D4DCD2F@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.8) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B612F83ECD X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.72 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.937,0]; URL_IN_SUBJECT(0.40)[zoom.us]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.82)[-0.823,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.25)[ip: (-0.73), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.36), asn: 209(-0.11), country: US(-0.06)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.covisp.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.70)[-0.702,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 22:44:11 -0000 On 18 Apr 2019, at 16:22, Chris Hill wrote: > Considering that this is an open list that's been around for decades, = spam is vanishingly rare in these parts. And every so often someone = complains about the amount being nonzero, and each time I reflect that I = would love to see this percentage of spam coming into my own server. All of that is true, and yet there is far more spam on their list than = on any other list I use, and that is many. It's still not a lot, I simply delete the and move on. --=20 'And stars don't care what you wish, and magic don't make things better, and no-one doesn't get burned who sticks their hand in a fire.' From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 18 23:37:27 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B78157F5DD for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 23:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) Received: from g5.umpquanet.com (ns.umpquanet.com [209.216.177.146]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3EC3A85789 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 23:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) Received: from g5.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by g5.umpquanet.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x3INXJQQ036600 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:33:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by g5.umpquanet.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x3INXJeW036599 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:33:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) X-Authentication-Warning: g5.umpquanet.com: james set sender to freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com using -f Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:33:19 -0700 From: Jim Long To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ZFS is auto-mounting in wrong order Message-ID: <20190418233319.GA28238@g5.umpquanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.4 (2019-03-13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3EC3A85789 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com designates 209.216.177.146 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.21 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.80)[-0.802,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.966,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[g5.umpquanet.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.12)[-0.117,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[umpquanet.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.06)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11233, ipnet:209.216.160.0/19, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 23:37:27 -0000 I have a system that boots from ZFS. I recently upgraded it from FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE to 12.0-STABLE: FreeBSD electron 12.0-STABLE FreeBSD 12.0-STABLE r346293 GENERIC amd64 I'm seeing certain directories as empty, when they should have lots of content. The problem can be worked around by unmounting key filesystems, and re-mounting them in the proper order. Troubleshooting leads me to believe that the ZFS system is not mounting them in the proper order, but I don't know of any way to either log the order that they are mounted in at boot time, nor to inspect on a hypothetical "dry-run" basis what ZFS thinks the correct mount order is. I did not have this problem prior to the 11 -> 12 upgrade, if that matters. Here are my auto-mountable filesystems: # zfs get -rt filesystem canmount | grep -vw off NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE electron canmount on default electron/data canmount on local electron/data/backup canmount on local electron/data/backup/jimsdesk canmount on default electron/system canmount on default electron/system/ROOT canmount on default electron/system/ROOT/default canmount on local electron/system/home canmount on default electron/system/tmp canmount on default electron/system/usr canmount on default electron/system/usr/local canmount on default electron/system/var canmount on default And their mountpoints: # zfs get -Hrt filesystem canmount | grep -vw off | while read FS b; do echo $FS; done | xargs zfs list NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT electron 80.0T 403G 201K none electron/data 46.4T 34.0T 238K /data electron/data/backup 6.67T 34.0T 4.81T /data/backup electron/data/backup/jimsdesk 267G 34.0T 267G /data/backup/jimsdesk electron/system 13.4G 403G 201K none electron/system/ROOT 560M 403G 201K none electron/system/ROOT/default 373M 403G 279M / electron/system/home 292K 403G 292K /home electron/system/tmp 15.5M 403G 13.8M /tmp electron/system/usr 12.3G 403G 10.6G /usr electron/system/usr/local 1007M 403G 569M /usr/local electron/system/var 555M 403G 516M /var Let's look at electron/data and its children, although I suspect the same problem is happening with electron/system/usr and its child electron/system/usr/local. None of the electron/data tree is currently mounted: # zfs mount electron/system/ROOT/default / electron/system/tmp /tmp electron/system/var /var electron/system/home /home electron/system/usr /usr electron/system/usr/local /usr/local Since they all mount under /data, the /data directory is currently empty: # find /data -ls 1587 1 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2 Apr 18 15:33 /data Now let's mount the remaining auto-mount filesystems: # zfs mount -a; zfs mount electron/system/ROOT/default / electron/system/tmp /tmp electron/system/var /var electron/system/home /home electron/system/usr /usr electron/system/usr/local /usr/local electron/data /data electron/data/backup /data/backup electron/data/backup/jimsdesk /data/backup/jimsdesk Inspect /data and /data/backup: # ls /data backup/ slide/ xqueue/ spare/ vince/ mendel/ rain/ # ls /data/backup jimsdesk/ There should be a lot more stuff in /data/backup than that. It's only showing the mountpoint for electron/data/backup/jimsdesk. Here's the work-around to get it to show up: # zfs umount electron/data/backup/jimsdesk # zfs umount electron/data/backup # zfs mount electron/data/backup # find /data/backup -maxdepth 1 /data/backup /data/backup/.zfs /data/backup/rayleigh.CentOS-7 /data/backup/horton /data/backup/lannister /data/backup/rayleigh.archived /data/backup/Thunder /data/backup/luna /data/backup/bioinformatics /data/backup/shiny /data/backup/salmon /data/backup/rayleigh.CentOS-6 /data/backup/stark /data/backup/hoh2 /data/backup/jimsdesk /data/backup/love /data/backup/rayleigh So clearly the filesystem contents are still there, they were just invisible before. Since /data is a mountpoint for electron/data, we would expect it to be empty, and indeed we verified above that it WAS empty, prior to doing the 'zfs mount -a'. But instead I find: # zfs umount electron/data/backup # zfs umount electron/data # find /data /data /data/backup # df -m /data/backup Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on electron/system/ROOT/default 413020 278 412742 0% / /data/backup should not exist in electron/system/ROOT/default. So I rmdir'ed it and rebooted. After the reboot, and after unmounting electron/data/backup/jimsdesk, electron/data/backup and electron/data it again was present. This seems like strong evidence that /data/backup is getting mounted before /data gets mounted, and ZFS is auto-creating the mountpoint directory. How can I definitively SEE the order in which ZFS will mount filesystems, either in a "dry-run" mode, or have it logged in real time during the boot process? Even more to the point, how can I ensure that /data gets mounted before /data/backup gets mounted before /data/backup/jimsdesk, and likewise /usr gets mounted before /usr/local? Thank you! 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Fri, 19 Apr 2019 14:31:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu) Received: from mather.gromit23.net (c-98-244-101-97.hsd1.va.comcast.net [98.244.101.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gromit.dlib.vt.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 209AE497; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 10:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; delsp=yes; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.8\)) Subject: Re: ZFS is auto-mounting in wrong order From: Paul Mather In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 10:31:26 -0400 Cc: Jim Long Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <145D9F3E-A3F8-4153-A7CB-950F1A62F958@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> References: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.8) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A19BC81764 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dmarc=fail reason="" header.from=vt.edu (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.51)[ip: (-3.92), ipnet: 128.173.0.0/16(-1.96), asn: 1312(-1.59), country: US(-0.06)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[vt.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[chumby.dlib.vt.edu,gromit.dlib.vt.edu]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.983,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[97.101.244.98.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1312, ipnet:128.173.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 14:31:34 -0000 Jim Long wrote: > I have a system that boots from ZFS. I recently upgraded it from > FreeBSD 11.2-STABLE to 12.0-STABLE: > > FreeBSD electron 12.0-STABLE FreeBSD 12.0-STABLE r346293 GENERIC amd64 > > I'm seeing certain directories as empty, when they should have lots of > content. The problem can be worked around by unmounting key > filesystems, and re-mounting them in the proper order. > > Troubleshooting leads me to believe that the ZFS system is not mounting > them in the proper order, but I don't know of any way to either log the > order that they are mounted in at boot time, nor to inspect on a > hypothetical "dry-run" basis what ZFS thinks the correct mount order is. > > I did not have this problem prior to the 11 -> 12 upgrade, if that > matters. I encountered this problem in upgrading from 11-STABLE -> 12-STABLE. Under 11-STABLE and prior, when upgrading in single-user mode I would use "zfs mount -a" to mount my ZFS file systems. Under 12-STABLE, this resulted in many "empty directories" as you mention. It caused the subsequent "make installworld" to fail. In my case, I discovered it was the way my boot environment had been set up that was causing this. The file systems under my boot environment "root" (pool/ROOT) were all marked as "noauto". Under 11-STABLE, "zfs mount -a" would successfully mount these file systems (even though the man page said it shouldn't). Under 12-STABLE, "zfs mount -a" acts in accordance with the man page and does not mount these file systems in response to "zfs mount -a". My workaround was now to mount ZFS file systems as the system does: first execute /etc/rc.d/zfsbe and then /etc/rc.d/zfs, i.e., "/etc/rc.d/zfsbe start ; /etc/rc.d/zfs start". That correctly mounts the active boot environment and then the rest of the ZFS file systems on top of it. I notice you have an "electron/system/ROOT" ZFS file system, so maybe you are using boot environments, too? Do you have any ZFS file systems marked "noauto" for the "canmount" property? It doesn't seem so, but I thought I would double-check. > This seems like strong evidence that /data/backup is getting mounted > before /data gets mounted, and ZFS is auto-creating the mountpoint > directory. > > How can I definitively SEE the order in which ZFS will mount > filesystems, either in a "dry-run" mode, or have it logged in real time > during the boot process? The "service -e" command will show you the order in which services will be started. In my 12-STABLE system, ZFS related startup scripts seem to run in this order: % service -e | grep zfs /etc/rc.d/zfsbe /etc/rc.d/zfs /etc/rc.d/zfsd The zfsbe service handles mounting of the active boot environment. The zfs service mounts the rest of the ZFS filesystems (the non-"noauto" ones, that is). (The zfsd service runs the ZFS fault management daemon, driven by devd events.) You could run these scripts manually via "/bin/sh -x" to trace what they are doing. I hope this helps. Cheers, Paul. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 19 19:39:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2951576AAA for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 19:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) Received: from g5.umpquanet.com (ns.umpquanet.com [209.216.177.146]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAE678E983 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 19:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) Received: from g5.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by g5.umpquanet.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x3JJcuDx013591; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 12:38:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by g5.umpquanet.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x3JJctfm013590; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 12:38:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com) X-Authentication-Warning: g5.umpquanet.com: james set sender to freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com using -f Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 12:38:55 -0700 From: Jim Long To: Paul Mather Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS is auto-mounting in wrong order Message-ID: <20190419193855.GA10389@g5.umpquanet.com> References: <145D9F3E-A3F8-4153-A7CB-950F1A62F958@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <145D9F3E-A3F8-4153-A7CB-950F1A62F958@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.4 (2019-03-13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: CAE678E983 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com designates 209.216.177.146 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions@umpquanet.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.76 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.92)[-0.915,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.989,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[umpquanet.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: g5.umpquanet.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.54)[-0.536,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.06)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11233, ipnet:209.216.160.0/19, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 19:39:36 -0000 Thank you for taking the time to respond, Paul. On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 10:31:26AM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: > > I notice you have an "electron/system/ROOT" ZFS file system, so maybe you > are using boot environments, too? Do you have any ZFS file systems marked > "noauto" for the "canmount" property? It doesn't seem so, but I thought I > would double-check. No, I'm not using any 'noauto'. My original post shows all filesystems that are not 'canmount=off'. Also, my root FS electron/system/ROOT/default has no child filesystems, which seems to be what /etc/rc.d/zfsbe handles. > > How can I definitively SEE the order in which ZFS will mount > > filesystems, either in a "dry-run" mode, or have it logged in real time > > during the boot process? > > The "service -e" command will show you the order in which services will be > started. In my 12-STABLE system, ZFS related startup scripts seem to run > in this order: > > % service -e | grep zfs > /etc/rc.d/zfsbe > /etc/rc.d/zfs > /etc/rc.d/zfsd I don't use zfsd, and the core of what /etc/rc.d/zfs does is 'zfs mount -va', so I still have no visibility into how 'zfs mount' is ordering the filesystem mounts. But it is definitely 'zfs mount -va' that is doing the wrong thing. I've fashioned this test script to highlight the observable differences between a correct, manual mounting, and the incorrect mount order used by zfs mount -a: --snip-- #!/usr/bin/env bash # correct mount ordering: MANUAL=" zfs mount electron/data zfs mount electron/data/backup zfs mount electron/data/backup/jimsdesk " # automatic mount ordering: AUTO=" zfs mount -va " case $1 in manual) MOUNT="$MANUAL" ;; auto) MOUNT="$AUTO" ;; *) exit esac cat << EOF | sh -v zfs mount | grep '/data' mkdir /data find /data $MOUNT zfs mount | grep '/data' find /data | head -3000000 | wc -l zfs umount /data/backup/jimsdesk zfs umount /data/backup zfs umount /data rmdir /data find /data EOF --snip-- Here's a run of that script using the manual mounting order. The mountpoint /data is created fresh at the start. When the filesystems are correctly mounted, there are over 3 million files under /data. After unmounting, /data is empty, and can be rmdir'ed. --snip-- electron : 12:26:00 /root# ./zfs-mount-test.sh manual zfs mount | grep '/data' mkdir /data find /data /data zfs mount electron/data zfs mount electron/data/backup zfs mount electron/data/backup/jimsdesk zfs mount | grep '/data' electron/data /data electron/data/backup /data/backup electron/data/backup/jimsdesk /data/backup/jimsdesk find /data | head -3000000 | wc -l 3000000 zfs umount /data/backup/jimsdesk zfs umount /data/backup zfs umount /data rmdir /data find /data find: /data: No such file or directory --snip-- Here's a run of that script using the automatic mounting order. When the filesystems are automatically mounted, fewer than 1.5 million files are present under /data. After unmounting everything, /data is not clean, and rmdir returns an error. --snip-- electron : 12:26:17 /root# ./zfs-mount-test.sh auto zfs mount | grep '/data' mkdir /data find /data /data zfs mount -va zfs mount | grep '/data' electron/data /data electron/data/backup /data/backup electron/data/backup/jimsdesk /data/backup/jimsdesk find /data | head -3000000 | wc -l 1481445 zfs umount /data/backup/jimsdesk zfs umount /data/backup cannot unmount '/data/backup': not a mountpoint zfs umount /data rmdir /data rmdir: /data: Directory not empty find /data /data /data/backup --snip-- Is this a known issue? Should I submit a PR? Thank you! Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 19 20:19:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26161577B29 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 20:19:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7F7769C27 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 20:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: ZFS is auto-mounting in wrong order Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 14:19:41 -0600 References: <145D9F3E-A3F8-4153-A7CB-950F1A62F958@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> To: Paul Macdonald via freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <145D9F3E-A3F8-4153-A7CB-950F1A62F958@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-Id: <514B1BB1-B5D3-46FC-92A2-60E3B1953CBD@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.8) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C7F7769C27 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.39 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.covisp.net]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.93)[-0.930,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.81)[-0.809,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.25)[ip: (-0.71), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.35), asn: 209(-0.11), country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.01)[0.010,0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 20:19:50 -0000 On 19 Apr 2019, at 08:31, Paul Mather wrote: > The "service -e" command will show you the order in which services = will be started.=20 Aha! I had wondered if that was the case. --=20 Eyes the shady night has shut/Cannot see the record cut And silence sounds no worse than cheers/After earth has stopped the ears. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 20 04:11:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B428315826F4 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2019 04:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankfenderbender@council124.org) Received: from vps349.pairvps.com (vps349.pairvps.com [216.92.231.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5057817C8 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2019 04:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankfenderbender@council124.org) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (unknown [104.220.39.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vps349.pairvps.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C6EF1A5376; Sat, 20 Apr 2019 00:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: how to filter advertisers from joining the list Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Frank Fenderbender In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 21:11:22 -0700 Reply-To: Frank Fenderbender Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C5057817C8 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of frankfenderbender@council124.org designates 216.92.231.69 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=frankfenderbender@council124.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.12 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.05)[0.046,0]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[frankfenderbender@council124.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:cegray.mail.pairserver.com]; HEADER_FORGED_MDN(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[council124.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mailwash31.pair.com]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.990,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.13)[asn: 7859(-0.58), country: US(-0.06)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7859, ipnet:216.92.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 04:11:32 -0000 Sorry that I posted under another current questioner's subject-line. I clicked the reply so I didn't have to type anything else in to get the = To:
filled in, and then forgot to change the question to my = own, before asking my own inside the question. email's body. I should've slowed down after having to delete 3 of my 10 = incoming list emails as overt spam. Since BSD is based in security and a history of being older than most = all surviving OSs, I My question is whether we can imagine reducing overt email from the list = that send "questions" about dating, or about buying a service/product... = as a captive audience. It seems ironic that a list membership about a secure OS exhibits = insecurity in who can access our mailboxes and detour our = attention-spans with misrepresentation of purpose. So, I thought that others so-captured might want to seek some proactive = revenge if we can decipher the problem, the tasks, and access. If it's an "open" list then it's up to use to fend off invaders, right? = It's not in anyone's "job description" unless it's in all of our = membership implications? If we don't do it, who will. eh? We do lots of this stuff by ourselves = all the time, so a list mechanism may just need some known detail = brought up so that volunteers will be able to research, prototype with a = test-list, validate, and suggest workarounds or fixes.=20 Examples of everyday improvements we all have made, or could make: Problem: In this day-and-age, 80% of all US phone calls = are robocalls, esp. between 7-9am and 6-8pm.. Workaround: we've used the wildcard features of CPR CallBlocker = and Ooma to pre-delete junk calls and callers. Problem: We send about 30% of what Amazon sells back as = misrepresented, faulty, or incorrect. Workaround: we avoid Jeff Bezos whenever possible. Problem: We screened fake-people from a Yahoo Group = mail-list I used to have; it was tough, because you had to screen for = real people. Workaround: We did not admit to membership anyone who did not = issue a self-statement , semi-divulging that they were not going to lob = ads at us. Problem: quantities of fake-people assault forums. Workaround: on our SMF forum, we use email verification, BOT = lists, and essentially block all eAddresses with alphanumeric = name-fields since that indicates a spammer more often than a lazy = person. =09 Problem: Sado-parasites, thieves, and psycho-terrorists = assault WAN-connected systems on auto-pilot so they can destroy = somewhere else concurrently. Workaround: We added TXT/SPF files to reduce having our spoofed = email addresses get us blocked from relaying mail-servers. We added anti-malware programs to reduce = battles with viruses, spyware, etc. Problem: Approx. 20% of all our USPS-handled packages are = delayed, damaged, or lost. Workaround: We use non-USPS deliverers whenever it's an option, = as a workaround to them ever improving anything but 'images' of quality. So, rather than "getting used to" or tolerating the intolerable creep of = 'quantity over quality', small efforts can often reap great rewards. I enjoy, and thus, prefer reading real questions and answers because a = topic relates to me or just because it sounds interesting. There's so much interesting use and knowledge in listees' worlds that I = resent being demographically-manipulated, like having to answer spam = calls to find out I'm colluding in wasting my time by NOT proactively = blocking them. So, maybe we can get some info about the system running the list so we = can try to make some improvements in proactively blocking spammers at = the membership level? If it is near-"impossible" then we find out from one or more answers why = that is, and, if it is not impossible, then we find out what it may take = and approach it like any other software project that "raising the bar" = for higher quality implies? here's to saving the Delete-button finger for more interesting pursuits, frank= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 20 05:38:48 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8761583DDE for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2019 05:38:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4854883CE6 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2019 05:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: how to filter advertisers from joining the list Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 23:38:45 -0600 References: To: Paul Macdonald via freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <317439A7-5CB4-4289-B340-8DBE7C4930C3@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.8) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4854883CE6 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.80 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.89)[-0.890,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.73)[-0.732,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.24)[ip: (-0.68), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.34), asn: 209(-0.11), country: US(-0.06)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.covisp.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.53)[-0.530,0]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 05:38:48 -0000 On 19 Apr 2019, at 22:11, Frank Fenderbender = wrote: > and then forgot to change the question to my own, before asking my own = inside the question. > email's body. I should've slowed down after having to delete 3 of my = 10 incoming list emails as overt spam. This is called thread hijacking, and it is not appreciated. You start a *new* message for a new thread. 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You do not reply to >another message and change the subject because that does not start a >new thread. Your "new" message will contain references to all the >previous messages in the thread you've decided to hijack. A more detailed explanation: Among other headers, the headers of an email contain "In-Reply-To:", "Message-Id:" and "Subject:". If you change the subject, you don't change the "In-Reply-To:" and "Message-Id:" headers. This could be an issue when sorting mails by thread. -- G Em Em7 Em Em6 C7 G The King of Marigold was in the kitchen cooking breakfast for the Queen Em Em7 Em Em6 C7 The Queen was in the parlor playing piano for the children of the King There are several simplified versions available by the Internet. Around 35 years ago, my simplified guitar version was more or less the above. I noticed that several simplified versions chose Em6, too, but they play it different than I did and still tend to do. My recommendation is to play it as shown for the second fret by https://www.8notes.com/guitar_chord_chart/em6.asp, the fingering could be 1,2,3, but IMO also 2,3,4. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 20 13:02:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7616F158D912 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2019 13:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E1BA9094D for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2019 13:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To; bh=7B6WmJlhOrZeQu6AkeMO131S9c+GChmZyG3+Maa3dRg=; b=hPWEEc2pHyPepXQlGkJipLJ+7z sn+/RaMfS100VprS0SunuggQMPWFyG5IpDr6sogH4LtOaFsw8BoOMt9UL6MbiCDu272CMDNCgIJYW 7rIc5zN0IG30LTVz/e8sXwNuo1lFXiF5joE+Z5tU6hPvPC+U18acpG7Daj6X/NblHfHM=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1hHpdU-0008LG-Lp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 Apr 2019 20:02:28 +0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 20:02:28 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch Message-ID: <20190420130228.GA31721@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.4 (2019-03-13) Sender: Victor Sudakov X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 13:02:31 -0000 --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Colleagues, I use two Xservers on my desktop box (FreeBSD 11.2): [vas@vas ~] ps axww | grep xin 70999 v1- I 0:00,00 xinit /home/vas/.xinitrc -- /usr/local/bin/X :1= -auth /home/vas/.serverauth.70986 69720 v2 I+ 0:00,00 xinit /home/nk/.xinitrc -- /usr/local/bin/X :0 = -auth /home/nk/.serverauth.69707 36786 8 R+ 0:00,00 grep xin [vas@vas ~]=20 One is my Mate session and the other my wife's one. We switch between them with Ctrl+Alt+Fn. Sometimes I also need to switch to the vt text console with Ctrl+Alt+F1. The problem is that sometimes Ctrl+Alt+Fn just freezes the GUI for good, and I have to ssh to the box from my son's computer and issue "sudo killall= xinit" and then start "startx" again. Sometimes after I kill the xinit processes I see the following message: (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch I presume that something is preventing the vt switching from happening.=20 Can I configure startx/xinit/xorg whatever so that if I press Ctrl+Alt+Fn, the virtual consoles should be switched unconditionally without "Suspending AIGLX clients" or whatever the xservers are trying to do. I'm the boss after all. If vt switching crashes some X client, I'm fine with it. It is also remarkable that now I cannot kill the Xserver with Control+Alt+Backspace any more. How can I regain this possibility? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJcuxhkAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0l4oH/iFlbBk/Bll8h0HpWz/kjKG1 AO55qgEb7h41vjXNC46Mik+aeE0+CXhAflwJux4In/jYE/G0dgi/4K5TBDyRF7tW iKJEQ7sDF6qQp2NyJGr41PgSiepI5XweB55O6YT9vYvGXAin3DzOy2d+aRO/1Gz6 +165y/OXc0CQKVK8TyJ0v47O6Xg4eJc/q5646JqHW7UDIScAcj4mHSD/Iecx0XEq 0pUq9PE4oHCU5ioraAVAjlFYkmw8a9Tu3lWZqxjURo5ns5EK0x/wrEHmgvIHC7Fr zoFNLPLGsbxrgLxTuZFhCc6gma73nqcX/p++YkFFvsR8z5GCIVbq6/pAS2pBV1I= =DETe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 20 19:20:01 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ECB415733A0 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2019 19:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68AC66E965 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2019 19:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.126.133]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MUY5o-1hQcdm0oIy-00QWKV; Sat, 20 Apr 2019 21:14:34 +0200 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 21:14:33 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Frank Fenderbender Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to filter advertisers from joining the list Message-Id: <20190420211433.a4b0098e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:f+0dxg4Aj8QaZXhOaAvxlObVAOJQvBhHUx+1qVBm2ydKuMBeher ir6dtq40WTIdDALXPxH6JJ3eghIjLRhDqwDBoZw8+Phl0XroS7pKUHM1sXnsC/67473kx30 KzSP49/jyFR7pODv54hAzjWVm4FXNfb3sXTvNg9+4njqkQmWxkQ5CMHaQlMtJaVX+HXYSJG r0ZTEGDLisz/B/VD1uodA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Zp1wYbM7Ai8=:+pkt68Q6trDPkm6QFMPTZy rVeZkup0knxb0Tb2yX7ihk5+9/hPueX23hhvcolWlywnfVh2GFNMzYngMB8AQun9M1F2gQcYU B0j09zl9PUoZU/r6KKte7NRxqfW9/bLZE2EtkT3A88b6h97L0/Hha143XgTkseqeTBMJQpdhM 3IdIeCfkQ6bc50J5c222MH/lGaHeiMCGfepTwWP9icVKkAWRRLkMDKeiVzfFpyDWdo2r/74+V gbR2T2oJejA/9KOHPuW3AeiNu6ctrSMVdAoUnRU+1imlQkpbrzGW1pt12HEb9TFa7c2UTw4iF dUnK0rhdWYxWfDBnmBRMJrSrvlA4MtOef7eIBvfX2qqHGQu86km6jdmqrlW9SDF7dnEOCWjFA oFXf34ZwoDhBWICQhiImpaIibjmSKNjPj9P8aVbO5pZnvwGoWGAvF0E93wuAYyhxWULpksfsa EK7gWDd2p+3Rh+4/FO/SsifUj61UQ3HHqn0PUkNgRTBjkt4nQfFWIvaXaacVo/GCoPI42UdhU 1rMaL55uyIbwXBaylQXYedTSHkr3VY4cZuNNtKFjL7P2hCVLID6eMZsKDkjfdk56gTaXcJskK MzhpLAbXL2aOaC5xtlWLe/RU0/z2apucYsOAPJMhJqfAZmSAIL2Bm59VIfgSgl/Qlr2AY5aZX 5SNQLfFD/2+ZIlDsJk3pRq/VnLgqnrPpXPcu4SxN38cGTzWLAavgtoffdU7SjUQyV3DEedirJ AqJN24kz0kmeVNnPiYVG4Bpmf8Nnjl7jOjH3+SiQ0mrXcRdhYooqaqEbpk4= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 68AC66E965 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.23 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx01.schlund.de,mx00.schlund.de]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[133.126.195.92.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.86)[0.859,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.82)[0.820,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.97)[0.972,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[135.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[135.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.19)[ip: (0.46), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.36), asn: 8560(1.87), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 19:20:01 -0000 On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 21:11:22 -0700, Frank Fenderbender wrote: > Since BSD is based in security and a history of being older than > most all surviving OSs, I > My question is whether we can imagine reducing overt email from > the list that send "questions" about dating, or about buying a > service/product... as a captive audience. I don't know about you, but in _my_ opinion, the spam on this list (and the side-noise it generates) is still beyond what's accepted as "normal" on other lists. Sure, this is an _open_ list (no subscription needed for posting), but the amount of spam that arrives in my inbox is so low that I'm even too lazy to set up a deletion rule - I simply press DEL a few times, and the thing is done. That's why I currently (!) consider this a "no problem". > It seems ironic that a list membership about a secure OS > exhibits insecurity in who can access our mailboxes and > detour our attention-spans with misrepresentation of purpose. That's not fully correct. By subscribing to the list you accept _all_ content sent by the list per default, and it's up to your MTA / MDA / MUA to take a filter action if you desire. This is not a security problem per se. Furthermore, those who read this list do not use things like "Outlook" instead of a MUA, and are well aware of security considerations regarding "strange links" embedded in HTML messages. As the FreeBSD list system strips non-text attachments in general, and people tend to read mail as text (and not as HTML, which is untypical to be sent by legit list members), I'd say this is not a big problem. My Bank Account This won't work. People here aren't stupid enough to fall for that. :-) > So, I thought that others so-captured might want to seek some > proactive revenge if we can decipher the problem, the tasks, > and access. You can easily examine the message headers and find out where the spam originates from. You'll often find corporate networks with infected "Windows" machines, or "Windows" PCs of clueless home users that send the messages. You will typically _not_ find out _who_ initiated it; sender != initiator. And those who cause spam will always find sources to send it. There are enough insecure, unpatched, unmaintained or intendedly left-open systems around the world which they can gain access to. It's not magic. > If it's an "open" list then it's up to use to fend off invaders, > right? It's not in anyone's "job description" unless it's in all > of our membership implications? The list maintainers tend to add known sources of spam to the blacklists, but new sources will open from time to time, causing a "spam blast" that typically lasts a few days, and then ends. You _could_ do some postprocessing of the messages before they arrive in your inbox (in in your inbox before they gain your attention). Just a few comments: > Examples of everyday improvements we all have made, or could make: > Problem: In this day-and-age, 80% of all US phone calls > are robocalls, esp. between 7-9am and 6-8pm.. > Workaround: we've used the wildcard features of CPR CallBlocker > and Ooma to pre-delete junk calls and callers. > > Problem: We send about 30% of what Amazon sells back as > misrepresented, faulty, or incorrect. > Workaround: we avoid Jeff Bezos whenever possible. This is something "average people" don't do, either because it is a technical skill they don't have, or because it does not reflect as loss of money. Generally speaking, eople are able to tolerate an impressive amount of annoying things as long as it doesn't feel (!) like losing money. > Problem: We screened fake-people from a Yahoo Group > mail-list I used to have; it was tough, because you had to screen > for real people. > Workaround: We did not admit to membership anyone who did > not issue a self-statement , semi-divulging that they were not > going to lob ads at us. > > Problem: quantities of fake-people assault forums. > Workaround: on our SMF forum, we use email verification, > BOT lists, and essentially block all eAddresses with alphanumeric > name-fields since that indicates a spammer more often than a > lazy person. Again, this solution might lead to exclusion of users who intendedly use a "non-natural address", either because they prefer to do so, or because they don't have any alternative. If you add a subscription process that involves a certain amount of interaction that exceeds the skills of the common skript kiddie, you should be fine. But as I said, the FreeBSD lists do not use subscription as a requirement for sending messages. This is the first thing you should address if you want a change. > So, maybe we can get some info about the system running the > list so we can try to make some improvements in proactively > blocking spammers at the membership level? In one of my earlier messages, I pointed out that you should address the list maintainers directly (or use an appropriate conversation list). Doing this on the user questions list is not a good idea, and will probably not lead to anything. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 20 23:20:47 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E19F1578B79 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2019 23:20:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youngstown_153.1155@colombo-pronghorn.tk) Received: from colombo-pronghorn.tk (colombo-pronghorn.tk [93.179.69.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709C976FA2 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2019 23:20:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youngstown_153.1155@colombo-pronghorn.tk) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=email; d=colombo-pronghorn.tk; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:List-Unsubscribe:Content-Type; i=youngstown_153.1155@colombo-pronghorn.tk; bh=lZhqmOfzVvIVgcZfzw0yvMMk25g=; b=Id7pFPyj+XPNs8yXbXBr5X7crP01i/Z5b7/rDqXbEtlLzPltr6O0gRVqAh+cbcQbvWC9rK0TILuD C0GoMMGJv19OnAxAMmhGAnHgMlsX1xum4S6MxSWi5HbcRjGtQhWRo2cIW04m0c4Zymma2fWwpPav 1H4XsUJfCHvAbttbzZ0= Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 02:20:40 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: =?utf-8?B?0J3QsNGC0LDQu9C40Y8=?= Subject: =?utf-8?B?0J/RgNC10LTQu9C+0LbQtdC90LjQtSDQvtGCINC60LDQtNGA0L7QstC+0LPQviDQsNCz0LXQvdGC0YHRgtCy0LA=?= Message-ID: <1555802440.78b533d297462876a5850f377fccf467@mailsys> MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--299af3e2b8e0a26547caed190cce1f3e" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 709C976FA2 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=colombo-pronghorn.tk header.s=email header.b=Id7pFPyj; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=colombo-pronghorn.tk; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of youngstown_153.1155@colombo-pronghorn.tk designates 93.179.69.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=youngstown_153.1155@colombo-pronghorn.tk X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.41)[0.414,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[colombo-pronghorn.tk:s=email]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PRECEDENCE_BULK(0.00)[]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.87)[0.869,0]; IP_SCORE(0.90)[ipnet: 93.179.68.0/23(3.00), asn: 57311(1.46), country: UA(0.06)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.93)[0.934,0]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[colombo-pronghorn.tk:+]; CTYPE_MIXED_BOGUS(1.00)[]; MIME_BASE64_TEXT(0.10)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.colombo-pronghorn.tk]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[colombo-pronghorn.tk,reject]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:57311, ipnet:93.179.68.0/23, country:UA]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 23:20:47 -0000 ----299af3e2b8e0a26547caed190cce1f3e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 0JfQtNGA0LDQstGB0YLQstGD0LnRgtC1IQoK0KPQstC40LTQtdC70LAg0JLQsNGI0YMg0LLQsNC6 0LDQvdGB0LjRjiwg0LzRiyDRgdC80L7Qs9C70Lgg0LHRiyDQv9GA0LXQtNC70L7QttC40YLRjCDQ ktCw0Lwg0L3QtdGB0LrQvtC70YzQutC+INC60LDQvdC00LjQtNCw0YLQvtCyLiDQodC60LDQttC4 0YLQtSDQv9C+0LbQsNC70YPQudGB0YLQsCAtINCw0LrRgtGD0LDQu9GM0L3QviDQu9C4INGN0YLQ viDRgdC10LnRh9Cw0YEg0LTQu9GPINCS0LDRgT8KCtCYINGB0LzQvtCz0LvQuCDQsdGLINCS0Ysg 0YDQsNCx0L7RgtCw0YLRjCDRgSDQvdCw0LzQuCDQutCw0Log0YEg0LrQsNC00YDQvtCy0YvQvCDQ sNCz0LXQvdGC0YHRgtCy0L7QvD8KCtCjINC90LDRgSAtINC00LXQudGB0YLQstC40YLQtdC70YzQ vdC+INC90LjQt9C60LDRjyDQutC+0LzQuNGB0YHQuNGPLiDQnNGLINCf0YDQvtCy0L7QtNC40Lwg 0YLQtdGB0YLQuNGA0L7QstCw0L3QuNC1INC60LDQvdC00LjQtNC40YLQvtCyIC0g0LrQsNC6INC7 0LjRh9C90L7RgdGC0L3QvtC1LCDRgtCw0Log0Lgg0L/RgNC+0YTQtdGB0YHQuNC+0L3QsNC70YzQ vdC+0LUuCgrQldGB0LvQuCDQv9GA0LjQvdGG0LjQv9C40LDQu9GM0L3Ri9C5INC40L3RgtC10YDQ tdGBINGDINCS0LDRgSDQtdGB0YLRjCAtINGPINGB0LzQvtCz0YMg0L/RgNC40YHQu9Cw0YLRjCDQ vdCw0YjQuCDRgtCw0YDQuNGE0Ysg0Lgg0LLQsNGA0LjQsNC90YLRiyDQv9C+INGB0L7RgtGA0YPQ tNC90LjQutCw0LwuCgrQldGJ0LUg0L/RgNC40YjQu9C40YLQtSAtINC60LDQutC40LUg0LLQsNC6 0LDQvdGB0LjQuCDRgyDQktCw0YEg0YHQtdC50YfQsNGBINCw0LrRgtGD0LDQu9GM0L3RiyAtINCy 0L7Qt9C80L7QttC90L4gLSDQvNGLINGB0LzQvtC20LXQvCDQv9GA0L7RgNCw0LHQvtGC0LDRgtGM INC40YUg0LLRgdC1LgoK0KEg0YPQstCw0LbQtdC90LjQtdC8LCDQndCw0YLQsNC70LjRjyDQodC1 0YDQs9C10LXQstC90LAu ----299af3e2b8e0a26547caed190cce1f3e MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" ----299af3e2b8e0a26547caed190cce1f3e--