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Sat, 28 Sep 2019 20:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 01:09:12 +0100 From: tech-lists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make.conf for a poudriere jail and CPUTYPE Message-ID: <20190929000912.GI49516@bastion.zyxst.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190927113336.GB49516@bastion.zyxst.net> <20190928121624.GC49516@bastion.zyxst.net> <20190928150629.914bf447.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190928133552.GD49516@bastion.zyxst.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FK65GREB+Evh/hTL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46gm9S5fVYz3H75 X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=zyxst.net header.s=fm3 header.b=XgBZ6F82; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm3 header.b=v7WieBS5; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tech-lists@zyxst.net designates 64.147.123.21 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tech-lists@zyxst.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.19 / 15.00]; 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charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 01:58:03PM -0500, Clay Daniels Jr. wrote: >RE: " as btver1 and sandybridge are the same arch (amd64) just different >cpus " > >I'm confused here: >" *Sandy Bridge* is the codename for the microarchitecture used in the >"second generation" of the Intel Core processors (Core i7, i5, i3) " > >" AMD Bobcat CPU (btver1)" >" =E2=80=98btver1=E2=80=99 CPUs based on AMD Family 14h cores with x86-64 = instruction set >support." >" btver1 is a SSSE3/SSE4a only CPU - it doesn't have AVX and doesn't >support XSAVE." I'm getting this information from /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf [..snip...] # The CPUTYPE variable controls which processor should be targeted for # generated code. This controls processor-specific optimizations in # certain code (currently only OpenSSL) as well as modifying the value # of CFLAGS to contain the appropriate optimization directive to cc. # The automatic setting of CFLAGS may be overridden using the # NO_CPU_CFLAGS variable below. # Currently the following CPU types are recognized: # Intel x86 architecture: # (AMD CPUs) amdfam10, opteron-sse3, athlon64-sse3, k8-sse3, # opteron, athlon64, athlon-fx, k8, athlon-mp, # athlon-xp, athlon-4, athlon-tbird, athlon, k7, # geode, k6-3, k6-2, k6 # (Intel CPUs) core2, core, nocona, pentium4m, pentium4, prescott, # pentium3m, pentium3, pentium-m, pentium2, # pentiumpro, pentium-mmx, pentium, i486 # (VIA CPUs) c7, c3-2, c3 # AMD64 architecture: amdfam10, opteron-sse3, athlon64-sse3, k8-sse3, # opteron, athlon64, k8, core2, nocona # SPARC-V9 architecture: v9 (generic 64-bit V9), ultrasparc (default # if omitted), ultrasparc3 # Additionally the following CPU types are recognized by clang: # Intel x86 architecture (for both amd64 and i386): # (AMD CPUs) znver1, bdver4, bdver3, bdver2, bdver1, btver2, btv= er1 # (Intel CPUs) tremont, goldmont-plus, icelake-server, # icelake-client, # cannonlake, knm, skylake-avx512, knl, goldmont, # skylake, broadwell, haswell, ivybridge, # sandybridge, westmere, nehalem, silvermont, bonnell # [...snip...] The reason I want to use CPUTYPE?=3Dbtver1 is because that's the cpu in the target machine, the machine in question has limited resources, and I want= =20 to build ports tailored to those resources and abilities. 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The target machine is the btver1 cpu. But not all ports that run on the host Sandy Bridge machine will run on the SSD only btver1 cpu. You have your work cut out for you. Best of luck! Clay On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:09 PM tech-lists wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 01:58:03PM -0500, Clay Daniels Jr. wrote: > >RE: " as btver1 and sandybridge are the same arch (amd64) just different > >cpus " > > > >I'm confused here: > >" *Sandy Bridge* is the codename for the microarchitecture used in the > >"second generation" of the Intel Core processors (Core i7, i5, i3) " > > > >" AMD Bobcat CPU (btver1)" > >" =E2=80=98btver1=E2=80=99 CPUs based on AMD Family 14h cores with x86-6= 4 instruction set > >support." > >" btver1 is a SSSE3/SSE4a only CPU - it doesn't have AVX and doesn't > >support XSAVE." > > I'm getting this information from /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf > > [..snip...] > > # The CPUTYPE variable controls which processor should be targeted for > # generated code. This controls processor-specific optimizations in > # certain code (currently only OpenSSL) as well as modifying the value > # of CFLAGS to contain the appropriate optimization directive to cc. > # The automatic setting of CFLAGS may be overridden using the > # NO_CPU_CFLAGS variable below. > # Currently the following CPU types are recognized: > # Intel x86 architecture: > # (AMD CPUs) amdfam10, opteron-sse3, athlon64-sse3, k8-sse3, > # opteron, athlon64, athlon-fx, k8, athlon-mp, > # athlon-xp, athlon-4, athlon-tbird, athlon, k7, > # geode, k6-3, k6-2, k6 > # (Intel CPUs) core2, core, nocona, pentium4m, pentium4, prescot= t, > # pentium3m, pentium3, pentium-m, pentium2, > # pentiumpro, pentium-mmx, pentium, i486 > # (VIA CPUs) c7, c3-2, c3 > # AMD64 architecture: amdfam10, opteron-sse3, athlon64-sse3, k8-sse3, > # opteron, athlon64, k8, core2, nocona > # SPARC-V9 architecture: v9 (generic 64-bit V9), ultrasparc (defau= lt > # if omitted), ultrasparc3 > # Additionally the following CPU types are recognized by clang: > # Intel x86 architecture (for both amd64 and i386): > # (AMD CPUs) znver1, bdver4, bdver3, bdver2, bdver1, btver2, > btver1 > # (Intel CPUs) tremont, goldmont-plus, icelake-server, > # icelake-client, > # cannonlake, knm, skylake-avx512, knl, goldmont, > # skylake, broadwell, haswell, ivybridge, > # sandybridge, westmere, nehalem, silvermont, bonne= ll > # > > [...snip...] > > The reason I want to use CPUTYPE?=3Dbtver1 is because that's the cpu in t= he > target machine, the machine in question has limited resources, and I want > to build ports tailored to those resources and abilities. 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I want to upgrade to the new default version, so I checked /usr/ports/UDPATING. Among other things, it said this: "f you wish to update to the new default version, you need to first stop any software that uses ruby." Is there a utility I can use that will tell me that? How do I identify what programs are using ruby? Paul Schmehl, Retired My opinions are my own. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 29 06:26:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45C0F5A42 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 06:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46gwXL5xYqz4Bgg for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 06:26:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.0.131]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M6DnM-1iCGn4338q-006g76; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 08:26:02 +0200 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 08:26:01 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Paul Schmehl Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How to tell what users Ruby Message-Id: <20190929082601.9152a485.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:PaAUPpmSmWkd9TFR1LpDWtc49VK/qWVoTPQkC1ETxijW1+4Lju5 fFpFZcuWwor7DIZQLIhi0gYSUgtTX0MdMC+T1m6H7nldqZa/fjbZTeuD7DvJhwEpfxmipvU d0dLUMuXifvJaalG95p2BcBrvnTWIQhR1rkabdyLbw+oKvFqEoBLTSP52laNQmoLNQC3ejt DCffIv3KJP0D8XEDAJbRw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:eW2SYIdHbG4=:uQpXPIodvcluzMtbc2uCJS EzLkin5MGErUkpps5cG8NttpaWkW8c2eMgjY8uHN3sxrkdgKHlpdNtGl/+U5twx5PIy00DCX0 XgE3o/g5lDW5+abd5T02JxA80pAgQFU6Y6/UIWP6TdthN2fi5x4aL64UFjiggwMWppeibdsOb namQXxMnF+qjTyxHXoJXkJsKoGipaMqMtEa7jY8fXRaVfMZiwionblRnsTfU6xVvDh8fnbweK O3D3nmI/YySfDQePVPE+cq1FJTORpLKYNfMoly5LQOgOFyUJJCOmjYdP8ADkOMCiG5t5kRgCE 3j+2ZarO+YuDnm+TKafJsjM8pcTto8iLqLpugtUoNX41HrLAz5DGf6Wvxa2QowLN7Q1JPus39 syH3x4of3qr/f+dyMXdppldgXvjfzHC9M1OIJ3oVsi6PXs2MZi7VBk5bo/0ss9DcSljX2h0jl ofdbbfBwbKcddK8SS9hzaAlQI+B8C7xszzm1BSsJu8XSoMJAWTxt6qdxNRQFncBvojXuBxSAl C60vLV3yMhMgRubDrjOPATM3MrPT7F0sux0aPvy3rAA6YoukuOUI/X6LyM/7RhkiWtjuzbj8R F5yj7TBm2ut02a70f0aoBvxsHqxxOBSOoc8TZp5RYLNT+tDF3GNLv9UCdjQNgqsvztbEj8+GN wpsp6WCwMuFKZCjH+ENXED2bZpiTjI/2cPZiHn1jwwVsytXvZVxweY3jj8JgKMXMMTGG19kvi krsM4lZ97nGxPv5B45Um2mw3OxwHSTG8G6KzmqnhdiHbEXekL7odap6fDu826UX3V1TJtsGLe 2CCJY0cHVie5VjAUZKR61JTkmyU0CSJS3unhUZz0IdI4UuxJHjBBpM3EeTPGS98s9nLrhQr9T qUZuh6W0DCtbB+KDQlxsQypwEma1MvYFFdD9IqCMU= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46gwXL5xYqz4Bgg X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.134) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.44 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[131.0.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.59)[0.591,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.95)[0.947,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[134.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[134.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.50)[ip: (1.82), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.37), asn: 8560(2.07), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 06:26:11 -0000 On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 01:17:52 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I'm running ruby 2.4 on a server. I want to upgrade to the new default > version, so I checked /usr/ports/UDPATING. > > Among other things, it said this: "f you wish to update to the new default > version, you need to first stop any software that uses ruby." > > Is there a utility I can use that will tell me that? How do I identify what > programs are using ruby? Yes, pkg provides a part of that functionality; check "man pkg-info" for the "--required-by" (or -r) flag. Make a list of the packages that depend on the currently installed Ruby version: # pkg info -r ruby Then check what program from the list is currently running. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 29 13:56:10 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138C6121CF8 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 13:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (gate.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46h6WX3Rrbz4ZKL for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 13:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D6823BC47 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 22:55:57 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0E44B2D37C; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 22:55:55 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.0-rc at eastasia.home.utahime.org Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 22:55:16 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20190929.225516.1790830252692909987.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to tell what users Ruby From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46h6WX3Rrbz4ZKL X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of yasu@utahime.org designates 183.180.29.210 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=yasu@utahime.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.31 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.92)[-0.919,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:spf-authorized.utahime.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.89)[-0.890,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[utahime.org]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.30)[ip: (0.24), ipnet: 183.180.0.0/16(0.12), asn: 2519(1.16), country: JP(-0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2519, ipnet:183.180.0.0/16, country:JP]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 13:56:10 -0000 From: Paul Schmehl Subject: How to tell what users Ruby Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 01:17:52 -0500 > I'm running ruby 2.4 on a server. I want to upgrade to the new default > version, so I checked /usr/ports/UDPATING. > > Among other things, it said this: "f you wish to update to the new > default version, you need to first stop any software that uses ruby." > > Is there a utility I can use that will tell me that? How do I identify > what programs are using ruby? Try 'pkg delete -n lang/ruby24'. It shows all packages that depend on ruby 2.4. --- Yasuhiro KIMURA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 29 23:42:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CD912DBCE for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 23:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta03.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46hMXY2Vh5z46Rx for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 23:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.15] ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id EipyiR9FBWnTiEiq1ixvD1; Sun, 29 Sep 2019 23:42:51 +0000 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 18:42:46 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: Polytropon cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How to tell what users Ruby Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20190929082601.9152a485.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20190929082601.9152a485.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfDH2/YWfi1Da4avuaaxObDo+DaT9fIIUJOpQ4UyOAkX/eUPoCI8CLCK+9dRWGRrieWvgv1l/k65Zlf3W81hpViiBBpPvwFXp7Qnrx/3zEaU0ZrppRlu1 a6vrt3U+Vn2Bb5oNG9G3/Wk0ivQLIggKTLgeYcrbLXdrxl3PD61DFZV1BIFwdMfYaSB6QIuRcwHI6nn8uaTgb/A+UA+lBs80DsN0vCaIikbVM3ir6fOGifPi X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46hMXY2Vh5z46Rx X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com designates 107.14.73.230 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.71 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[82.63.121.70.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[rr.com]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[230.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com]; IP_SCORE(-2.41)[ip: (-7.17), ipnet: 107.14.73.0/24(-2.68), asn: 7843(-2.14), country: US(-0.05)]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[230.73.14.107.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 23:42:54 -0000 --On September 29, 2019 at 8:26:01 AM +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 01:17:52 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> I'm running ruby 2.4 on a server. I want to upgrade to the new default >> version, so I checked /usr/ports/UDPATING. >> >> Among other things, it said this: "f you wish to update to the new >> default version, you need to first stop any software that uses ruby." >> >> Is there a utility I can use that will tell me that? How do I identify >> what programs are using ruby? > > Yes, pkg provides a part of that functionality; check "man pkg-info" > for the "--required-by" (or -r) flag. Make a list of the packages > that depend on the currently installed Ruby version: > > # pkg info -r ruby > When I ran this it listed no programs. Which is kind of odd, since I know portmaster uses ruby. Anyway, I just did a pkg delete, and nothing was listed, so I deleted it and installed 2.6. Paul Schmehl, Retired My opinions are my own. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 30 02:33:53 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF8AF88B4 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 02:33:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46hRKr2XBjz4Dhn for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 02:33:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.221]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mof1D-1hm0Cv1qf3-00p6TP; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:33:44 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:33:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Paul Schmehl Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How to tell what users Ruby Message-Id: <20190930043339.f6d30c68.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20190929082601.9152a485.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:vzOoMd6Pq1n2Kg2gWhCKr2ANwdULbrKjJnNAKCEYLYxevJlyjmU cMHVyHoEJWUfJhBtbi6MYwduq+dlNi3yMZ/6Alqnsdixp5MfEWYMmhw+zaGaVjxQVbSJCHw kkgXFnYTi1Qs7MFVeHDhjkjwgWa9rDbZm8jpkQMwLfOIO/zHMIIjI0dC7AWW3TGa8okhkPl TjcOd8ojsAu1x3UOF5AZA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:JeduPMmES40=:UNqmjcdI092OAiIX7993O3 CQjFE0fzMcAta03PizvjCH+Wn8vInW8qrWXFL7FoTB235L08CFZ2/o4L4BcWE3yofVtqUc/OU X6E+rruiKWHMy5AUTUX+d9JR1oIgvhhKKSrl87RWiJrgu/MXqkKUMtKUsj5FRWrz+A0EOdsLt wjX5Z5FSIBGTHrz57smmWKh3YQiQSbH6H9wwybxZBJjCCz2T5iO9dGjldUUWhIPQNl/SO292A 5beCYJkhkVI++k5O3JJqxQRjo3zkv8oZH2lXszh6OG+08BIve/SRe6pmf58CxtGDhoaUAJvGP HtcH56Gbtyc/lgi272nbF21+fi7RQ/fZJnrRyH3dzs/tHJdL0/rOK+VPFnSnQBZE6kLNu1vV+ QylRboajRluADmlyM7DGVl2Y0I0LhvW64AHwDNmjQXUrSGljM5O0DYOgIC35QEE69a/n9rwU6 DufxnV/qi9RP+1v6vSY4H1yZV0AjxJWSlQlS7Mq+WVwJZqMg8/7zPitN7kAAgypaH/EhigQY3 hrFINOadllR4560d3uuqXEyImPcoQ5X4pRZQCp04XpNenkA4TP46FumUE8zx6x8fI1Z9Bt0nI 69mtiIOI5BYeBCGEvuNqpdeY++8lUmw2xD33eYC2DJmiwGV2khM1ealbC1YphdPuJL5KA+69L mlGFB6sLNzTrxXoQ9kEcWnj76v/elycC3BTNzySqq1NoRcmBCZWCXmctXuUn4noOlkKx0d6pr ItOxDuDB0jsbZi6w0ogKH89Oki1Xu5BA/KNNrEJQQJGr4yk0RWqDKRjXeEX0DfZnTj7Cnj+Dg TFa2mKb1j0lf+D0KeEXKE04NyTwPUG+tI7T/fw00zGYcxz2ntmH/LnZOkUQhyFBn/q5kojJkh 4rsdIO67isvHBpjFvQ1yv+hFI6Eenlfr5bg/1ozlk= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46hRKr2XBjz4Dhn X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.73) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.30 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[221.27.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.45)[0.448,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.94)[0.945,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[73.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[73.192.72.217.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.51)[ip: (0.28), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.20), asn: 8560(2.06), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 02:33:53 -0000 On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 18:42:46 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On September 29, 2019 at 8:26:01 AM +0200 Polytropon > wrote: > > > On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 01:17:52 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > >> I'm running ruby 2.4 on a server. I want to upgrade to the new default > >> version, so I checked /usr/ports/UDPATING. > >> > >> Among other things, it said this: "f you wish to update to the new > >> default version, you need to first stop any software that uses ruby." > >> > >> Is there a utility I can use that will tell me that? How do I identify > >> what programs are using ruby? > > > > Yes, pkg provides a part of that functionality; check "man pkg-info" > > for the "--required-by" (or -r) flag. Make a list of the packages > > that depend on the currently installed Ruby version: > > > > # pkg info -r ruby > > > > When I ran this it listed no programs. Which is kind of odd, since I know > portmaster uses ruby. I've just installed portmaster for testing - you're right, it does not show up as depending on ruby; vim, however, does: # pkg info -r ruby ruby-2.5.5_2,1: vim-8.1.1439 Interesting thing: portmaster's Makefile does not mention ruby at all. So I tried something: I removed ruby and vim and portmaster, then installed portmaster again - and no ruby. So my guess is: portmaster does no longer depend on ruby. I'll now be installing vim again, and notice version changes: vim: 8.1.1954 ruby: 2.6.4,1 Additionally, pkg and perl get upgraded, too. I have to say, pkg is really great. :-) > Anyway, I just did a pkg delete, and nothing was listed, so I deleted it > and installed 2.6. Depending on the services your server runs, it should have been possible to construct something like # pkg info -r ruby | something | something else | xargs -n 1 service stop to stop the services that depend on ruby before performing the upgrade. As others have mentioned, tools like lsof and a "non-deleting pkg delete" would also provide information on where ruby is in use. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 30 03:35:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200B1F9AE5 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:35:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46hSjP1BYXz4HB4 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:35:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.15] ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id EmTTiUbiGP088EmTWiWF05; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:35:51 +0000 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 22:35:47 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: Polytropon cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How to tell what users Ruby Message-ID: <97264F4F7CF9D5D3C52319D3@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: <20190930043339.f6d30c68.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20190929082601.9152a485.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190930043339.f6d30c68.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfIu4gWq2oWQmTpK9oEH5FKAed4LO1KhVzDg9m00a6E6q4QQrVdh6++gTikP5nDjGMDrDPt75Uj5iLfAX6p0UZ14upvJcpdCS/r/0nyVf4cKTxCyIx4wd xihIbAuoFD8d9HBO/d81MojsY8P7zKbmosuA/fLSFhCKdUADmwuwrDkkjR2JLw029QXJVF4N6AjYVZIKEBdutBjX0hSaJbO7p4hyO+6wV5eRKoOWirwNw1S+ X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46hSjP1BYXz4HB4 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com designates 107.14.73.229 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.32 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[rr.com]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[229.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.02)[ip: (-5.16), ipnet: 107.14.73.0/24(-2.71), asn: 7843(-2.17), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[82.63.121.70.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:35:54 -0000 --On September 30, 2019 at 4:33:39 AM +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 18:42:46 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> --On September 29, 2019 at 8:26:01 AM +0200 Polytropon >> wrote: >> >> > On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 01:17:52 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> >> I'm running ruby 2.4 on a server. I want to upgrade to the new default >> >> version, so I checked /usr/ports/UDPATING. >> >> >> >> Among other things, it said this: "f you wish to update to the new >> >> default version, you need to first stop any software that uses ruby." >> >> >> >> Is there a utility I can use that will tell me that? How do I identify >> >> what programs are using ruby? >> > >> > Yes, pkg provides a part of that functionality; check "man pkg-info" >> > for the "--required-by" (or -r) flag. Make a list of the packages >> > that depend on the currently installed Ruby version: >> > >> > # pkg info -r ruby >> > >> >> When I ran this it listed no programs. Which is kind of odd, since I >> know portmaster uses ruby. > > I've just installed portmaster for testing - you're right, it does not > show up as depending on ruby; vim, however, does: > > # pkg info -r ruby > ruby-2.5.5_2,1: > vim-8.1.1439 > > Interesting thing: portmaster's Makefile does not mention ruby at all. > So I tried something: I removed ruby and vim and portmaster, then > installed portmaster again - and no ruby. So my guess is: portmaster > does no longer depend on ruby. > Huh. Well, I'm wondering why I have ruby installed, if nothing depends on it. But this is weird. # pkg info -a | grep ruby ruby24-2.4.6_1,1 Object-oriented interpreted scripting language ruby24-bdb-0.6.6_5 Ruby interface to Oracle Berkeley DB revision 2 or later pkg info -r ruby24-bdb* ruby24-bdb-0.6.6_5: So, it depends on itself but not ruby? Double weird. Oh well, I'll keep ruby installed if for no other reason than I can. Paul Schmehl, Retired My opinions are my own. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 30 05:37:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A703FBEEB for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 05:37:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46hWQC34J6z4QYd for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 05:37:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: How to tell what users Ruby Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 23:37:52 -0600 References: <20190929082601.9152a485.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190930043339.f6d30c68.freebsd@edvax.de> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20190930043339.f6d30c68.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3594.4.13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46hWQC34J6z4QYd X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.57 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.967,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.975,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.22)[ip: (-0.78), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.21), asn: 209(-0.08), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 05:37:56 -0000 On Sep 29, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Polytropon wrote: > I've just installed portmaster for testing - you're right, it does not > show up as depending on ruby; vim, however, does: >=20 > # pkg info -r ruby > ruby-2.5.5_2,1: > vim-8.1.1439 Depends on how you built vim, I suppose. Ruby is not a dependency on my = systems. > Interesting thing: portmaster's Makefile does not mention ruby at all. > So I tried something: I removed ruby and vim and portmaster, then > installed portmaster again - and no ruby. So my guess is: portmaster > does no longer depend on ruby. I don=E2=80=99t think postmaster ever depended on ruby? --=20 'Does he have people put to death?' said Mort. SOMETIMES. THERE ARE SOME THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO, WHEN YOU'RE A KING. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 30 06:36:12 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B2EFCF07 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:36:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46hXjR3KZ1z4Str for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:36:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.27.221]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MLRI3-1iWle132gd-00IRLh; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 08:35:58 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 08:35:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "@lbutlr" Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: How to tell what users Ruby Message-Id: <20190930083555.f2c77ad6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20190929082601.9152a485.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190930043339.f6d30c68.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:cSqACs7/R+3D6AgZcu+HE6qeVXFS+h4S5DGRRa4/RWopR97iZZd m6vvYNO0KF2ZFcienteJzYPeH7m/OYc4UlewF+EVAAB509T3NlvTotXDPbr7gTm/vEXXI9R +MRh6kHhz9M3keR22RG4YpU4iIIdgoQYi1qibvWZSYTVXvS0IqSVB/D2pW8JnkgT4sqSDFb PbAAC/KLgVyhV+HrCcLmg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:wiy9ADsowgU=:fm2BeKL0NTzAEmfZYDyjB5 iZw0RyKW7mpVEk+8j6/ju6AVJ77U5WnSG6MmwgG073+K0KBkkRzXgIEtFWyxHLaDSXeskPFsD x7NXj3/2L/wUkNhvhMzaAwI3XQVMA2tFdZOBQ1L/RyqUZtFhvxf2qxD7TnU1KAr0zI7TO3sgR PRd7thRk1gvlJVmFcu0FBI1bSoAWvwjJivMTid6X8dTf6s5fejB98THCKJUO5yxhO9yBtI1QO K0IeVGjSj6rdsl5J5PWenoKZheuUmgops64kC0b/yuEnPdSQKnX1K+pdvx9lBbgcHiHA/Y7++ 8hnUDjzvmAxfQOZwv6KEUy8+h7A6dax1fGwufAQBZfzuucbFozK0SxmNs3mDKapT4Zt0BuxO6 HohrXIATt4tOhW1jaorCYCjJm/mU0NYY/JgkdruTQl6hWp6tXwfw6UWVSt2ILQO4xrb+2vS10 LwVuYJkZFnNhA0e/e167x/QZtnv/UFMfsLVRWKQUU6NL2FL4o7xlLgh/bXiNwN/ldSjZPQUGd QmqNJVOCnnAbgDbtPX1A+ntq7zokkSLCGpE/t/kCczTyfVere5Bf806eQw+8bBYvNrcl7qwUk 2XgfhhMB0EEFUpuhBz8sVCc5qOKL74w0e7lR1b4FIWWdKUDmc9BUn6Q2cIHajyaA7sFaNYqJy PQ2XVs+X/tNr4P5YiROto32jcCXL6Q2RwZ4mwxualQOEAtHIPISOGx/AwiH55FdzfOQ7qjOQ0 XzreryWBWDckfm8gMnvPM725h5qZWhdiNqdDy7HTuU+wOyeIKA/EmSEb1QylVSUzDldp90/OG BlbIc5fhC16T/ALBoEpqA3EE5I7lX6C8OU35hY1jgyciFDSR1DmH9kTqyxt7AXxveZUsOdj1y AjcwZv9UiwvAmvJgqrUyTL9uWMMgziZ80iI2OBmaY= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46hXjR3KZ1z4Str X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.134) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.26 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[221.27.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.43)[0.429,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.94)[0.941,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[134.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[134.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.49)[ip: (1.78), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.37), asn: 8560(2.06), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:36:12 -0000 On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 23:37:52 -0600, @lbutlr wrote: > On Sep 29, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > I've just installed portmaster for testing - you're right, it does not > > show up as depending on ruby; vim, however, does: > > > > # pkg info -r ruby > > ruby-2.5.5_2,1: > > vim-8.1.1439 > > Depends on how you built vim, I suppose. Ruby is not a dependency on my systems. Surely possible. I installed it via pkg, so the default options should have been applied by FreeBSD's automatic build system. > > Interesting thing: portmaster's Makefile does not mention ruby at all. > > So I tried something: I removed ruby and vim and portmaster, then > > installed portmaster again - and no ruby. So my guess is: portmaster > > does no longer depend on ruby. > > I don’t think postmaster ever depended on ruby? I'm not sure, but I _think_ that it actually depended on it in the past... of course that's nothing to be entirely sure of, as I've been a portupgrade person before entirely switching to pkg / poudriere (and only occassional "make install"). ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Best Regards, Ashley Diaz From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 2 02:12:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06AE0FE6DA for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2019 02:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodbrian77@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2f.google.com (mail-io1-xd2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46jfmn4tssz4ftB for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2019 02:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodbrian77@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2f.google.com with SMTP id q10so53387809iop.2 for ; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 19:12:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=QbJDNJAcK9N5LHXTkkNOYKaQZCzSvNgbClxcvubmfMs=; b=jDQVAmhecCntabs5JKpIxle1CKx72Hlp0sdqQehtYVr+cV50G+Gp72M8PPfWPUNbez u88O1FAHEYcCeVqeHpB2NZ00wTwMUgQKJaILNkDdCjRciHJK8qL52PaCQhfKXuBZ5Y1B EWs0wsLjIzKnYrLZaoLvDfwchPliy1GKf7q2tVA3datieausdlRrxf+28OjiiNDhXQY8 UE7jJVzjntOD7nRpY+mCruEEzkb22lcnSvKt7NhreYN0FB/BDW0qL6GRXN4qjldlYdBP enbOTrGKf0oQj5McsCttkAUc81Hi4MXOwyP+jPcajId92FuF2DwUZci9dCW/HNKKevMd M7zw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=QbJDNJAcK9N5LHXTkkNOYKaQZCzSvNgbClxcvubmfMs=; b=Dl6sGZ7DYUXDoT0+5B2RfGSN1HhuoCxRYPwQ27uzWXW9PLbmSTVnpCthY0I06LIxxW d6fMKDPOQ8dUjPiLK+4d4adEiQRwquXdhmZzRTWWpMv8ho33uxpJTcjDsgaGzDoD2/XL 0wIz0NuH6Kk3knikApRCWeMedpjagePJxbYY+mqc9e4OgcsZwxh+cvs1+iQyITcxXHg3 2v8eCKqIFJb1C1hCr8V/WPFa4qUGW42mUysqu+7J84cIJGWio34hAuNREuB/Lho3dwn6 jMBHH2zw5njueUxSX2wFEa8CQspPsCFAWswkgnBzX3753t+zriVH5iHftke9Y3bbvG5z oTAg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUO3QJj+TK3oyETdp5yj4iSY13gAHPyHltWvLEZZt4pb12YxZYD 59S2m2qXpWIO2CAs+3FOsf2nEYfK1qMT3hOP8SOMlTyicU0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxIIykdW8yx2UQdDyt1QScX+CHEjt8SqV7I0drVj5D03dUomIKUUDEYclOnsVs34k46VNcxyI9MhpSHjnBIDyM= X-Received: by 2002:a92:15c4:: with SMTP id 65mr1431328ilv.173.1569982376219; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 19:12:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Brian Wood Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 21:12:47 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Sctp and getaddrinfo To: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46jfmn4tssz4ftB X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=jDQVAmhe; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of woodbrian77@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=woodbrian77@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-6.33), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.58), asn: 15169(-2.16), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2019 02:12:59 -0000 Hi. I've been trying to use sctp and gettaddrinfo (SOCK_STREAM and IPPROTO_SCTP) but have had some problems. My server starts with those, but the client gets a "non-recoverable failure in name resolution," when connecting. I notice this example isn't using getaddrinfo: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-sctp/index.html Do you ever use sctp and getaddrinfo? I'm using Trident/ FreeBSD 12.0 on amd64. Thanks in advance. 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I've been trying to use sctp and gettaddrinfo (SOCK_STREAM > and IPPROTO_SCTP) but have had some problems. My server > starts with those, but the client gets a "non-recoverable failure > in name resolution," when connecting. > > I notice this example isn't using getaddrinfo: > https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-sctp/index.html > > Do you ever use sctp and getaddrinfo? I'm using Trident/ > FreeBSD 12.0 on amd64. Thanks in advance. Yes, I use it. Some questions: a) Can you post your getaddreinfo call? b) Do you use hint? Set it to null. c) Are you using more than one network interface? getaddrinfo (afaik) don't support it. After using getaddrinfo you can add more interfaces to the association d) Does your dns work? 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Some questions: > > a) Can you post your getaddreinfo call? > > b) Do you use hint? Set it to null. > I have this: ::addrinfo hints{0, AF_UNSPEC, SOCK_STREAM , IPPROTO_SCTP,0,0,0,0}; > c) Are you using more than one network interface? getaddrinfo (afaik) > don't support it. After using getaddrinfo you can add more interfaces > to the association > > d) Does your dns work? Are client and server in the same machine? They are on the same network. Brian Ebenezer Enterprises https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 3 09:03:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6937712EBE0 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2019 09:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk (outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk [95.142.156.253]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46kRqm0S0cz3LZQ for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2019 09:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk (unknown [82.71.56.121]) (Authenticated sender: mailpool@milibyte.co.uk) by outmx-028.london.gridhost.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 83A99221A51F7; Thu, 3 Oct 2019 10:03:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=curlew.localnet) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.92.2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFx0z-0001Bm-4o; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 10:03:13 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, White-Wolf Subject: Re: How Backup My 13-Current ? 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([2804:388:e060:817e:40da:6f71:7d9a:55fa]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c12sm3413519qkc.81.2019.10.04.10.11.05 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 04 Oct 2019 10:11:05 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Lucas_Nali_de_Magalh=C3=A3es?= Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Git/Mtn for FreeBSD, PGP WoT Sigs, Merkel Hash Tree Based Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 14:11:03 -0300 Message-Id: <252308D7-D927-4770-92B4-9CD4E6EF13DB@gmail.com> References: Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: To: grarpamp X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17A861) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46lGcD4KR4z4ZXK X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=fHdE0dzK; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rollingbits@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::830 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rollingbits@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.33), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.56), asn: 15169(-2.16), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[0.3.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:11:09 -0000 > On Sep 20, 2019, at 6:04 PM, grarpamp wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF[broken links fixed] >=20 > For consideration... >=20 > SVN really may not offer much in the way of native > internal self authenticating repo to cryptographic levels > of security against bitrot, transit corruption and repo ops, > external physical editing, have much signing options, etc. > Similar to blockchain and ZFS hash merkle-ization, > signing the repo init and later points tags commits, > along with full verification toolset, is useful function. [...] > Note also CVS, which some BSD's still use (ahem: Open, Net), > is even worse than SVN with zero protection > at all in any component regarding this subject. >=20 > It really time to migrate repo tech to year 2020. Are you sure you are talking about plain text files?May I suggest get rid of= the binary only part instead? I imagine how painful it is to do a 'git chec= kout' of many GiB of data. TeXLive is worth a few and is an eternity here. Lc --=20 rollingbits =E2=80=94 =F0=9F=93=A7 rollingbits@gmail.com =F0=9F=93=A7 rollin= gbits@terra.com.br =F0=9F=93=A7 rollingbits@yahoo.com =F0=9F=93=A7 rollingbi= ts@globo.com =F0=9F=93=A7 rollingbits@icloud.com From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 4 17:22:53 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DD3133F33; Fri, 4 Oct 2019 17:22:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-f196.google.com (mail-oi1-f196.google.com [209.85.167.196]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46lGsm6nWxz4bcn; Fri, 4 Oct 2019 17:22:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-f196.google.com with SMTP id m16so6427466oic.5; Fri, 04 Oct 2019 10:22:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=41wyONT/jCdqrWpuHx9S2fZxmUxyz8x4I6gNx8g+wDY=; b=QfBonVy4g/NBdC/cabH+29DxmW65GmPbYT4Hd93kAKZJLNGSxfceglOq8+WWiD95jL lGx1SfYJ6QLUPaqj7A+hqyV4AfD2GOkLqu2xdW7BaDqv2ubLIlyOvqvbei29CXP9Ha3I r/hXvuwgaWn4IHoTLHHXdHKCBk7oly0SP0tMceQEEb9X1txzRNGgrVWN/2rh4uVaQIZ+ OV2LPs9KMcPGTBposm67tTSzHd/gFabuKfmJOeYmdKPFwXH0MnyzpBsKDu3fFHk4DuND BvNKh4pA6zEkjOWIs3MU6qBh5+8hd5j/Hljr2bJp1VedECHgCtPMl+FjAC8lDl5hmXUi s40Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU2zlk2oEbVg+BN9hp01HEzOI8OC1L015xhL6QCMLToSlA9Tv/B zWVNpCieK2fGgUr1LjYfnkgBhzbFodE/exvVTw0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxvmFiP1WFGsjumxxVTM8b2C+Xrs/aEMpKFzP+ffmovWHhci+pq4iFK8R/58EWaCUfPyAL7a4PQSv237JoKkoY= X-Received: by 2002:aca:304b:: with SMTP id w72mr7731009oiw.126.1570209771415; Fri, 04 Oct 2019 10:22:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Igor Mozolevsky Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 18:22:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Git/Mtn for FreeBSD, PGP WoT Sigs, Merkel Hash Tree Based To: grarpamp Cc: freebsd security , Hackers freeBSD , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46lGsm6nWxz4bcn X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mozolevsky@gmail.com designates 209.85.167.196 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mozolevsky@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.09 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hybrid-lab.co.uk]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[196.167.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-1.09)[ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.27), asn: 15169(-2.16), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk,mozolevsky@gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[196.167.85.209.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk,mozolevsky@gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:22:53 -0000 On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 22:01, grarpamp wrote: > > For consideration... > > SVN really may not offer much in the way of native > internal self authenticating repo to cryptographic levels > of security against bitrot, transit corruption and repo ops, > external physical editing, have much signing options, etc. > Similar to blockchain and ZFS hash merkle-ization, > signing the repo init and later points tags commits, > along with full verification toolset, is useful function. Isn't UNIX(TM) philosophy that a program should do one thing and do it well? Just because people can't be bothered to learn to use multiple tools to do *multiple* tasks on the same dataset, is not a reason, let alone "the reason," to increase any program complexity to orders of N^M^K^L so that one "foo checkout" does all the things one wants! Incidentally, how does that saying go, if you think "crypto" is the solution to your problem, then ... (I'm slightly paraphrasing, of course). When crypto invalidates a repo, how would it be different from seeing non ASCII characters in plain ASCII files, or sudden refusal to compile---one way or another you'd still need to restore from BACKUP, hence crypto IS NOT a substitute for good data keeping practices. Also, what empirical data do you have for repo bitrot/transit corruption that is NOT caught by underlying media? -- Igor M. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 4 21:20:33 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865FE139C91 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2019 21:20:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-lj1-x22f.google.com (mail-lj1-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46lN804Tw7z3N83 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2019 21:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-lj1-x22f.google.com with SMTP id f5so7863862ljg.8 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2019 14:20:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=CsAWPtslrUbcSV8sb1m03xsD4Pbm0oVMWQiu4ndXyW0=; b=syaQii6I3xdZ5a8BPNSRWCInuy+XXGPuQy7fktboDvUl6nlo/QX/SPp355c/X1r9Zb oqJCMG+feOkachlrwu6A1XWRUj+64MCcSfTDOHufy2W8W9nL+UlrHvLgY6Rqc48xOXmy 3t+bnCuC9/Zw6RCDu950Exc1AQ6gZN9TXZsPwmRBAburqtvBviYag9qtXIJ1LeX5rXjG +c2wiMtzjUgIamDkCn6YnEC9oX1i722wLEyOgAwgpfrRQcNAtn7sAIJeqWJ0mArrfT2m kQsQXVKEzMkIKdsa300SbQt85vYTqiFCUWHq7zc3f/13NYXGy5HWYHxKhy17sHx55SdG 77JQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=CsAWPtslrUbcSV8sb1m03xsD4Pbm0oVMWQiu4ndXyW0=; b=QbnwVbvobO86hZxLMzB99SmFTxOKXLGf7L5sftg2/YBAkVMRj4PPvlhGIh5ubpYpi9 RDmMPS+944sbrBLNWVwfVyaptKz7KChe6mXPuMJ4/5v5WTGHrRZDCvqDN86myXRi0zR0 nR54jV5LU3KYya9X6WN1Jn1+X1Ywbv4OifLiF+Jl+wceqmdrkTT+t231RQtN+0UjH//T trJcVSPhpQY2mnpf/8XPubZzuZRfAsE3diAoDCfHWNzXnreL9cqy09xzJQiOGoxEHJMc 6eRFctaWZZ+w3xBHKDGqdzOnp4AjzgFB+e2wJtXYeASyqvTaEU0M8Cv+S87f0kPLVJRV Fang== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVYCVIuQomsJu7DprAekZ8Kfq5Z4CVx7X2QYHAWV9RRqQEOnFR3 fh6IbROYxCFQdTZlm1NFLwo2osX+Mp4xcACC4c0Iw0wy718KBw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyHG+ly8h2UeXRkBSkE27rAXeMlbQNXNPg9K2HiZ+MTd+0bsLPE8DF8/Gvmfa1yVdGjJeJi2+QzrgImFc7PspU= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:1bc4:: with SMTP id c65mr11036647ljf.130.1570224029350; Fri, 04 Oct 2019 14:20:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alejandro Imass Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 17:20:18 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Guides for ZFS Full backup to NFS drive and restore from NFS drive To: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46lN804Tw7z3N83 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=syaQii6I; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aimass@yabarana.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aimass@yabarana.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.37 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[yabarana.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-2.87)[ip: (-9.27), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.89), asn: 15169(-2.16), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 21:20:33 -0000 Hi there FreeBSD folk! Are there any easy to follow guides to completely backup a FreeBSD system to an NFS drive and then restore the complete system from the backup in the NFS drive? I don't have much NFS expertise but it shouldn't be that complicated. I found this guide but not exactly what I'm looking for: https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/2012/08/05/full-system-backups-for-freebsd-systems-using-zfs/ Is there a utility or something to make this process less painful? TIA! Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 4 22:39:35 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43A213B7D5 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2019 22:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46lPvB50rHz3yQK for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2019 22:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kh@panix.com) Received: from rain.home (pool-72-74-69-77.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.69.77]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46lPv91LSnz12mx for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2019 18:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Guides for ZFS Full backup to NFS drive and restore from NFS drive To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Kurt Hackenberg Message-ID: <9177b014-9041-f51e-1856-b6dbdec4afc1@panix.com> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 18:38:49 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46lPvB50rHz3yQK X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kh@panix.com designates 166.84.1.89 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kh@panix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.17 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:166.84.0.0/16]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[panix.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[89.1.84.166.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; IP_SCORE(-2.67)[ip: (-8.33), ipnet: 166.84.0.0/16(-2.76), asn: 2033(-2.21), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2033, ipnet:166.84.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 22:39:35 -0000 On 2019-10-04 17:20, Alejandro Imass wrote: > Hi there FreeBSD folk! > > Are there any easy to follow guides to completely backup a FreeBSD system > to an NFS drive and then restore the complete system from the backup in the > NFS drive? > > I don't have much NFS expertise but it shouldn't be that complicated. > > I found this guide but not exactly what I'm looking for: > > https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/2012/08/05/full-system-backups-for-freebsd-systems-using-zfs/ > > Is there a utility or something to make this process less painful? Do you mean to recreate the file tree on the NFS server, by copying each FreeBSD file to an NFS file? That might not work perfectly. I believe NFS doesn't implement everything the FreeBSD filesystem does. It might not include sparse files, special files, extended file metadata (access control, "flags")... If you use ZFS, you probably should use its backup/restore mechanisms, as in that article. For good results, it probably does have to be that complicated. If you don't use ZFS, then I suggest that you look at the programs "dump" and "restore". They have man pages. The FreeBSD Handbook also has some information about backup/restore for non-ZFS: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backup-basics.html And a chapter on ZFS: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/zfs.html From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 5 08:44:25 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C551A12C2E8 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 08:44:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46lgK41N24z4TKl for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 08:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.24.151]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mjjvp-1hp4gN3135-00lI3l; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 10:44:16 +0200 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 10:44:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Kurt Hackenberg Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Guides for ZFS Full backup to NFS drive and restore from NFS drive Message-Id: <20191005104413.39e3c081.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <9177b014-9041-f51e-1856-b6dbdec4afc1@panix.com> References: <9177b014-9041-f51e-1856-b6dbdec4afc1@panix.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:T34LHDkvwPo265AVx5d7SUZNqaRk++XioQLKKvGAGOornSjhyb3 qTDSDjRv/8ZywrXXGgbcDY+u4cQFP7OOatj8CZwA+gOdO8Y3j7AJP/E9v6PdJ7qMDTwlXTQ oZGfQm+1sqdnRV2aB3v3oRRa+dvaCb7Ck7osWosm1MQ2tn5RMr7gd0k4DCheuUUaV+VtWaF Zswr/KrSxedwSwloqQpcQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:8pxlVsyf9XU=:P0xLKUFAveGX1n1tDJmzRa YSKdaXtequHRxLvhI9ZXTC4uRJ+2hKBD/pB6gqzMEo6S7JE2zkEQq0pfoGFZGx/pM/knNN6VY avrVlBjb15Ffj0m3ObtrEWsSIyX9qBK2T6Ypp90bm1zCkWrvFnU1k9PC82dRldtx0GI9fDzX0 064nlDQV4witb8EGBlF68dikczWSrJTwChRUEBset2xDXoxe2NCnOiFxoupeIEvZQIWBH7A6C wn6psdQ+lXlHUBIutDcHzqKskb3V969f4cCk6piqg6mh/vWiRsaomEcksCwz2E8MrzumtKia4 Fl0tFeujlZLjiLGk8uPTkeV4/myrDHx34R5iFIx9ut3lmjRWOSsJTx8fztKpzFcKeLuWDVdXc jNS5fXImasTHJeMijey7kLh5ECYcNTGXVz+Izin5vPRAtCuU/RGw/qZ+g08rHPHu1t/Pu+z/L ehsjsgmTdDuYrqTWKrunDXJBTpZiAeMOysJj7dEYdsQxdQYEsMLkx46wpVXSGIkbg130XjAqx jTrXbJccJIbZVNxydFewdko/3X1H6hKrD3Avt+gN58Xzb06h5J9HKT9QB//LBpcAVvCgwC2gi DD3iQH8SJfcbyKD54lenrVIajCODGvkFk5YU4CggEWehoO+H4AO3uIr/uwPkkDQloI4Y12MpC g8Ts0Plc6Cx4WTTHC7u9RMbbk+LbiE9wettxVsKZFwGd8/HRRw5O6inPuskdmZqAPSqybXzsU tZy4STtBJeNgaBberwUhE2lMqbfKcTLs/fj5rpxHfGNsT8tDlaMSj2B9t8T3YB3K2+JrggVd5 +/eWqUMfqnB1Q1Ig7hSIy3eGhBTMzHvGcLi7qCR9parZQZWNLH6HIfDvxsNul0Hcz8PlTohCh DYbXdq02lSPcNM7tcYNt9NuGcwl21lIh9zlTx6H7w= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46lgK41N24z4TKl X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.17.24) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.78 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[151.24.222.94.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.79)[0.788,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.54)[0.537,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[24.17.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[24.17.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.06)[ip: (-0.42), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.33), asn: 8560(2.06), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 08:44:25 -0000 On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 18:38:49 -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2019-10-04 17:20, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > Hi there FreeBSD folk! > > > > Are there any easy to follow guides to completely backup a FreeBSD system > > to an NFS drive and then restore the complete system from the backup in the > > NFS drive? > > > > I don't have much NFS expertise but it shouldn't be that complicated. > > > > I found this guide but not exactly what I'm looking for: > > > > https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/2012/08/05/full-system-backups-for-freebsd-systems-using-zfs/ > > > > Is there a utility or something to make this process less painful? > > Do you mean to recreate the file tree on the NFS server, by copying each > FreeBSD file to an NFS file? That might not work perfectly. The initial question doesn't seem to sound like that was the objective. > I believe NFS doesn't implement everything the FreeBSD filesystem does. > It might not include sparse files, special files, extended file metadata > (access control, "flags")... > > If you use ZFS, you probably should use its backup/restore mechanisms, > as in that article. For good results, it probably does have to be that > complicated. Definitely. It is possible (and probably the way to go in this scenario) to write the "zfs send" result to a file that is accessible via NFS, first for backup, then have a rescue system handy (for example, a FreeBSD live system CD, DVD, or USB stick) to boot the system from again, make any neccessary preparations, and then run "zfs receive" with the previously mentioned file via NFS as source. So basically it's what you do with traditional dump and restore via _files_ stored somewhere else on the network, but with ZFS tools. :-) Or did I misunderstand the question? > If you don't use ZFS, then I suggest that you look at the programs > "dump" and "restore". They have man pages. The FreeBSD Handbook also has > some information about backup/restore for non-ZFS: > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backup-basics.html Additional valuable information here: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 5 12:35:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99EB13221D for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 12:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x12d.google.com (mail-lf1-x12d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46lmRj2vr4z3CN6 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 12:35:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-lf1-x12d.google.com with SMTP id 72so6289220lfh.6 for ; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 05:35:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=88HSP/xJ2Q2TsLy8PVdCxQleniNCIqOAHD67E8xz6mg=; b=0BJOD0boZ6Ox6P8uS+4Cm4CpoSJg0MKWaCN9KvW0nt4kjDcK+bi+ggrltuf5ZnOpgj uIAybIwB+wYRcYo+iW1zUVaoeT5l0CU1KgCh24QAo3W0OZSgRjHvyNGluFVSKa6YAFhg 0AxMPt6Eo9mOfpwIhXSgDVpzxpmJ90ihUZekYNJicFvMwhGQezARG1oB7ULVNKAzgKSi Mpm5GYM6snFvVnREx1ZEHRqFNDT5/66uGHPY35alNOmoBiXyh+7lQEDg2+4Tuj38epql 5rGxEpwwuGfS6Sicjh4Yag9RuP3cVoHSmPkE3HtMUi4A6QLJYGx0kHSQy3aVeGg1MSLQ VVQw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=88HSP/xJ2Q2TsLy8PVdCxQleniNCIqOAHD67E8xz6mg=; b=HdzWj3tPqp9sg23lNIA/kO6dih7Tbsn4NQ/UZRKSx2sIDAKxntCHFjqoqg/shzEHFp QBePiNg/2vYIkmNih+IsTcwT+ahamC+yY5UG8w94i9yQWxMJZPEX4YVQ6RGMLlHIm2S2 raRBEtVKDM7K1sJD/DzPzzI9M9bNdzfYtotjEphoGJ9tIcejwE/+Z5HdemVmdh+9ekqv ASmnrKYqEUfSMDhwXQIG/j32du9WtlfjhQOYs63R7q4ENHZrXJMnf2bVM9/v7mGn73ex qvUvo+01oYw044u981gUvcSNjvgS6axtPbJoV+z8y3GPWhwlgABcVgrmW/zNqO0e0YWb v5ug== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXbouDfdpXXfBHYjCHpzUqbQtSNBdLlSnrrWv5jU3aTUb3Z7P5y edf26oRCdhSHo5QFgXX9oIqgbBZ3t7Yf6CHaOKDnYb7Ke7Jopg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw5k1xc+tta70UuNEVCR2B/dSFtz0fXvlXYsDTzUyYtnrKnfThoBqD34Zmqr54QefaFNYVQVENBrtFph2I3AVw= X-Received: by 2002:a19:4912:: with SMTP id w18mr11461803lfa.93.1570278927234; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 05:35:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9177b014-9041-f51e-1856-b6dbdec4afc1@panix.com> <20191005104413.39e3c081.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20191005104413.39e3c081.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Alejandro Imass Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 08:35:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Guides for ZFS Full backup to NFS drive and restore from NFS drive To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46lmRj2vr4z3CN6 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=0BJOD0bo; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aimass@yabarana.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::12d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aimass@yabarana.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.27 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[yabarana.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[9]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-2.77)[ip: (-8.77), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.89), asn: 15169(-2.15), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 12:35:30 -0000 On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 4:44 AM Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 18:38:49 -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > > On 2019-10-04 17:20, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > > > > Hi there FreeBSD folk! > > > > > > Are there any easy to follow guides to completely backup a FreeBSD > system > > > to an NFS drive and then restore the complete system from the backup > in the > > > NFS drive? > > > > > > I don't have much NFS expertise but it shouldn't be that complicated. > > > > > > I found this guide but not exactly what I'm looking for: > > > > > > > https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/2012/08/05/full-system-backups-for-freebsd-systems-using-zfs/ > > > > > [...] > Definitely. It is possible (and probably the way to go in this > scenario) to write the "zfs send" result to a file that is accessible > via NFS, first for backup, then have a rescue system handy (for > example, a FreeBSD live system CD, DVD, or USB stick) to boot > the system from again, make any neccessary preparations, and > then run "zfs receive" with the previously mentioned file via NFS > as source. So basically it's what you do with traditional dump > and restore via _files_ stored somewhere else on the network, > but with ZFS tools. :-) > > Or did I misunderstand the question? > > > Nope you definitely understood the question precisely. I have read enough to understand that the process is somewhat the following: 1) zfs snapshot 2) zfs sedn to a file 3) copy the file to the nfs mount 4) reconstruct my zfs raid (the main reason I am doing this) 5) zfs receive But the devil is in the details and I have not found a single fool proof recipe. IMHO the handbook still lacks a lot of practical information about ZFS administration "for dummies". The last time I blindly followed the handbook's limited recipes I did "detach" and the "add" like the handbook suggests, and the reason I am in this predicament in the first place: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2018-November/283219.html Kevin P. Neal knew the answer but came a little bit late after I had inadvertently converted my pool into a stripe :-( I probably wasn't the only one unable to find the right answer to a simple problem in the current documentation: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/re-attaching-failed-device-to-pool.66027/ IIRC I did offer to collaborate and update the handbook for this particular case (re-attaching a drive with the same uuid) but nobody provided any pointers on who/how the handbook gets updated. What I want to do now is backup the entire system, reconstruct the raid1 pool and then restore the whole system INTACT. If there is no such documented recipe I am willing to fully document it with you guys' expert's help here and then find a way to collaborate with the handbook and add both use cases to it. For the common user like myself I really feel the ZFS section in the handbook needs a lot of work for practical day to day tasks, and the FBSD ZFS Wiki, at least IMHO, doesn't offer much help either. TIA! Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 5 14:15:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FA71342A6 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 14:15:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46lpfp5HZlz3HJ3 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 14:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:In-Reply-To; bh=Nsn9yMNkvnO95DtHoqEzA7QjMP82jvWhx3A5n6Ejtkw=; b=Xmqo9d/5sSNGw/G0l3ohBzwLS2 dLaIGPR4bD63ngwITwzokRpuq24ZtqNTAlCXXjzKpDdlb28anxv7j1EzociCGdzcXQsEGc0izjkND QE6QgIyPfGjjpsWy9hRI4/b/1RSK9Nr/27BJEGDwdhKJlr0p5TEirbaoVaIePlOptCTQ=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1iGkpv-000134-5N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 21:15:07 +0700 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 21:15:07 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Ansible for FreeBSD - use cases? Message-ID: <20191005141507.GA1223@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46lpfp5HZlz3HJ3 X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=Xmqo9d/5; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.29 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.19)[ip: (-9.79), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.90), asn: 20473(-1.23), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 14:15:17 -0000 --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Colleagues, Is anyone using ansible on FreeBSD for anything useful in production?=20 I understand the power of ansible is in its modules. If there is no module for your task, you are in a fix. I've experimented with the pkgng module, it does install packages :-) Most modules are meant for Linux however. What FreeBSD tasks do you automate with ansible, and with what modules? I use net/rdist6 to update some configs on remote hosts, so I don't think I'll benefit much from file copying modules of ansible. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJdmKVrAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY03KwH/1O4KO0R+d2890CYe4vucfBg brrtIhPq5ZTc0Gul4E3LfJ1eWMW78eysEu4SDqvRngVymnaBZGVkvOIrm+v7/v74 Bewj6tWrkYFvLgYKwtqnvIkLebrnxP3ZImoAW+QkTgj5mM1a3wisbwiHqlIh5w+F YNcz6uWa1YAW+eAfaETtZYQ3XYQFoUbDBegL526Y9eAzWiTVxGswOo1Q3MidfmH8 +zAlQWoQja8DURa1USHkdqLSSv+dQExG5iDWNIbK4FXrrJGsYOMOvZgekyLnXF7H kq067djDrGSgZaIyg4jIkpETaqbm/UnYojdphsupGfsLauw9cqJFBBUYWmtkpO8= =kido -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 5 14:35:11 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5C7134A25 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 14:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46lq5p4v1vz3J98 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 14:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=6nv3wpHhUGAwWVUKIeF8qWfedQEFaxfX9LCXf2m+Vdo=; b=QuC37IGMbzBaTGp/QEo0l6TIft zM0030TMcpY3utXJI17dWndpVGTayBK1cJ7aaAtVPTfA8tplIPMpyBwSYcKcUiBPSQq3DYLNIw7g+ TbHEc3L1Fs+lCx/H9jX9908dmGElbPugiBTX1xrAfFvxq7DH7W8Ath1tYgXlvYR03xNM=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1iGl9J-0001Tx-Jr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 21:35:09 +0700 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 21:35:09 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ansible for FreeBSD - use cases? Message-ID: <20191005143509.GB5366@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20191005141507.GA1223@admin.sibptus.ru> <33647705-15D7-48B2-9125-5DAFB6ED137E@kicp.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <33647705-15D7-48B2-9125-5DAFB6ED137E@kicp.uchicago.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46lq5p4v1vz3J98 X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=QuC37IGM; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-3.20)[ip: (-9.79), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.90), asn: 20473(-1.24), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 14:35:11 -0000 --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Valeri Galtsev wrote: >=20 >=20 > > On Oct 5, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Victor Sudakov wrote: > >=20 > > Dear Colleagues, > >=20 > > Is anyone using ansible on FreeBSD for anything useful in production?= =20 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^=20 >=20 > I believe, everybody does use FreeBSD in production. I for one fled > servers 6 years ago if not earlier from Linux to FreeBSD. These are: > mail (with spam/virus filtering and individual user spam settings > through web interface), mail lists, web, and variety web based goodies > like Wikis, Room (resource) booking system, databases, backups, you > name it. And we use FreeBSD jails a lot. >=20 And you maintain all the above with ansible? Impressive. Please share more. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJdmKodAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0tjUH/08ugfhpnaTHvyJt6XxCpnyJ P1tUQJIfcXMdeUiBcFbpXU8PpbXkMlJvU0A8QQ+P1Fe0jAVyvx7lzT4ws2SXOgX8 58TUFUxO0P9LF4lBTL29hgd9gaQLYmgUnOFOnQ2nnL9QSfJFpR9T9JjgxZRv6RyH DIvo78KZpCSQm0uSEDg4PjR+IwAqrbbNJDIXFo3trPWNeaOzIlRAMIuwafECHyNZ qEGrHlVrLXDFfNYZLSG12TKl+5ZVg7g7ZCRdv/HO7RCyY3i4WFuwymOp7HJHT4MI fmWAo9DrjStChg9wvMPCuxSG8TDkOgG4gWMmfNtR1BDXwgkEZLdA02V7tkLEvdU= =Mz7B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 5 14:40:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CB7134B8A for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 14:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46lqCw3BF7z3JHN for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 14:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [192.168.43.231] (unknown [172.58.139.92]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0B0FE4E67C; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 09:40:26 -0500 (CDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: Ansible for FreeBSD - use cases? From: Valeri Galtsev In-Reply-To: <20191005143509.GB5366@admin.sibptus.ru> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 09:40:21 -0500 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20191005141507.GA1223@admin.sibptus.ru> <33647705-15D7-48B2-9125-5DAFB6ED137E@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20191005143509.GB5366@admin.sibptus.ru> To: Victor Sudakov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46lqCw3BF7z3JHN X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.17 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[92.139.58.172.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.36)[-0.364,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.10)[-0.099,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.03)[ip: (0.11), ipnet: 128.135.0.0/16(0.05), asn: 160(0.04), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 14:40:29 -0000 > On Oct 5, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Victor Sudakov wrote: >=20 > Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Oct 5, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Victor Sudakov wrote: >>>=20 >>> Dear Colleagues, >>>=20 >>> Is anyone using ansible on FreeBSD for anything useful in = production?=20 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^=20 >>=20 >> I believe, everybody does use FreeBSD in production. I for one fled >> servers 6 years ago if not earlier from Linux to FreeBSD. These are: >> mail (with spam/virus filtering and individual user spam settings >> through web interface), mail lists, web, and variety web based = goodies >> like Wikis, Room (resource) booking system, databases, backups, you >> name it. And we use FreeBSD jails a lot. >>=20 >=20 > And you maintain all the above with ansible? Impressive. Please share = more. >=20 Oh, rats. No, you are right. Scratch everything I wrote, that is my = favorite mistake: to not read carefully the whole message. I was surprized the question I misred came from you, as, as I know, you = are much higher expert in FreeBSD than I am (as a matter of fact I am = not an expert, whereas you are). That should have told me I didn=E2=80=99t= read what you said, but=E2=80=A6 Valeri >=20 > --=20 > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 5 14:43:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD33134E4B for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 14:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46lqH76Lnvz3JcW for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 14:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [IPv6:2607:fb90:a230:487f:b090:1177:d466:cc27] (unknown [172.58.139.159]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7024B4E66B; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 09:35:14 -0500 (CDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: Ansible for FreeBSD - use cases? From: Valeri Galtsev In-Reply-To: <20191005141507.GA1223@admin.sibptus.ru> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 09:35:13 -0500 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0DDF1331-F96C-42C4-99B4-E3BC5A9CE256@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <20191005141507.GA1223@admin.sibptus.ru> To: Victor Sudakov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46lqH76Lnvz3JcW X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [8.67 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[159.139.58.172.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_XBL(5.00)[159.139.58.172.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.4]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000,0]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.07)[ip: (0.21), ipnet: 128.135.0.0/16(0.10), asn: 160(0.08), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 14:43:16 -0000 > On Oct 5, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > Is anyone using ansible on FreeBSD for anything useful in production? > > I understand the power of ansible is in its modules. If there is no > module for your task, you are in a fix. > > I've experimented with the pkgng module, it does install packages :-) > Most modules are meant for Linux however. > > What FreeBSD tasks do you automate with ansible, and with what modules? > > I use net/rdist6 to update some configs on remote hosts, so I don't > think I'll benefit much from file copying modules of ansible. > > -- > Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN > 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 5 20:43:34 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4146813C9C0 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 20:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@osfux.nl) Received: from vm1982.osfux.nl (vm1982.osfux.nl [79.99.187.212]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46lzGs16mCz46p3 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 20:43:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@osfux.nl) Received: from vm1982.osfux.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vm1982.osfux.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D45E2011C; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 22:35:15 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=osfux.nl; s=default; t=1570307717; bh=bosakrFNYyRBoth0o+QM2rbGUkmPiu6xv162kQZFzB8=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=kpjIftBjyb/x04MHm+vJmR9vdQaDTbpH1ecF7SMZildrOcFvsp6yRxhM9Yu/RTL/V 4x0o7UlSkj24voDW+ILwAUnn8NnGJFIaxDtD6xQiRA3cTbXP67eWNMyw/B9B6SIIB+ QNbwZcKEROWkoHK8DPCk7TqOi7b6sQSR+HC2M9A9KD5O8PhJuqqiudQyZP4LMVrZYH UwOc7kiaMcFF8DzNlmpZDKGXibtXwgGYJc3y9zKaR7hdAwqYKaT877AyLBPUqJkfFN TWG7D5rsILPWtaZ6Unggw7jB6xiS0yprGWXwbKuW8/oniD7jcJ4D1xLJEVw8YQjBWl koGpwTFRnK9a/kRbj1lvcSIde7W2m961tpA1aTaa4Be/gccfBrmS33BA/l4LWWNAEk 82PRv2tRFiqXf/r0i9mlG6fbk/8P9Bqcpuu3SGK+DoAf44L3X6q1U39Vo/+Ta/RGBO oT02a4pjA3i1rsb1BZ30V+N0B4EzLSiTfzGotWaIfZaz9L1JHp7FotKCIy8L1mjDgF 6fQgvoMSdOXJ8nfPpFB+3iNZHDwKTmQUc6Ci/+BlHFwh5x9XC3yDAWQYJG2yzL6IRR xhUqUj3i9RHTXSe9AZdPPNAesl18cwQCNrT9AfblH0KGYnD5IX8qKf0FEWwK4F8qxG iabCRntXlCWIqClTqCpyB7yA= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on vm1982.osfux.nl Received: from [192.168.178.23] (217-120-180-31.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl [217.120.180.31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vm1982.osfux.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 22:35:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Ansible for FreeBSD - use cases? To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20191005141507.GA1223@admin.sibptus.ru> From: Ruben Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 22:35:22 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20191005141507.GA1223@admin.sibptus.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46lzGs16mCz46p3 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=osfux.nl header.s=default header.b=kpjIftBj; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=osfux.nl; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mail@osfux.nl designates 79.99.187.212 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mail@osfux.nl X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[osfux.nl:s=default]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.967,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[osfux.nl:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[osfux.nl,none]; IP_SCORE(0.14)[asn: 8315(0.71), country: NL(0.02)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[31.180.120.217.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8315, ipnet:79.99.184.0/21, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 20:43:34 -0000 Hi, I've been using ansible in production for both Linux and FreeBSD for a couple of years now. There are about 150 Linux servers and 50 FreeBSD our team manages. Our main usecases for using ansible specifically on/for FreeBSD targets: - user management The user modules are running fine on FreeBSD. - pf management The blockinfile module together with jinja2 functionality really kicks ass. - setting up GELI/ZFS/NFS We use several modules to orchestrate zfs fileservers: blockinfile, raw/shell , service, etc - maintaining haproxy installations blockinfile (with jinja2) / service modules Using ansible to orchestrate FreeBSD servers just works. We can use native modules for most of our payloads, using the shell/raw modules for other stuff; there really is nothing we cannot do. The only stuff that - in my experience - is cumbersome to orchestrate with Ansible: - portstree compiles (for which we (try) to use portmaster with the Q branches of the portstree) - freebsd-update (crossing . releases, so using the "upgrade" switch) I, for one, cannot wait to see the functionality provided by the freebsd-update tool lifted to pkgng. From an Ansible point of view this would decomplicate stuff quite a lot. Ansible integrates quite nicely with Jinja2, which allows us to configure/adminstrate all applications we run on FreeBSD servers. I think using a framework to administer stuff that is used by many other sysadmins makes more sense than writing one's own framework. I don't know of any other orchestration framework out there that is OS and only needs ssh/python in order to function, thats why I use Ansible. Regards, Ruben On 10/5/19 4:15 PM, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > Is anyone using ansible on FreeBSD for anything useful in production? > > I understand the power of ansible is in its modules. If there is no > module for your task, you are in a fix. > > I've experimented with the pkgng module, it does install packages :-) > Most modules are meant for Linux however. > > What FreeBSD tasks do you automate with ansible, and with what modules? > > I use net/rdist6 to update some configs on remote hosts, so I don't > think I'll benefit much from file copying modules of ansible. >